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Personaly, I find that $160 is more than enough to pay for a FS "massage". The rent on a commercial space is far more than an appartment so an increase in price would definitly not be justified. If prices do start to rise, my visits will definitly decline.
As for not being written up in the local papers for visiting a "bawdy house", do you not think the same charge would apply if an LE sting hit an appartment as opposed to a storefront?
The risk factor has gone up for the monger now. It seems the risk was always there for the providers. You didn't used to hear mongers listed in the raids like now. Perhaps a price cut or specials like the freebie card should come back to encourage business in light of the recent happenings.
I believe the house makes a good profit with $60 from each customer and the girls do very well for themselves at $100 each. I should hope that no one is going to accept a price increase.
[QUOTE=Jet Ranger]If I found a local, regular Asian incall girl (preferably Korean, Japanese, or Chinese) that charged $160 to $200 a session, delivered a consistent GFE for the agreed to time, and worked out of a condo, I would become a regular for sure and I'm sure many other guys would, too.
Perhaps the extra $40 a visit might reduce the frequency of my visits somewhat, but it sure beats getting written up in the local papers as being charged with frequenting a bawdy house!
I wasn't overly impressed with the McLean Chinese Condo, either. I felt that I was shortchanged on time when I visited. The girl was OK, but her hair reeked of nicotine.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LexLuther]So while I have heard of Korean ladies in California who go independent, I don't think it is very common in the rest of the country and I think that when they do, they do it alone.
LexLuther[/QUOTE]These days, Apartment AMPs (AAMPs) are pretty much the standard mode of operation for Korean providers in Northern California. I agree that it is rarely found elsewhere amongst Koreans (although, as you mentioned, there are more than a few Chinese apartment set-ups on the East Coast).
Although it was not the start of AAMPs, the massive West Coast Fed/ICE raids of July 2005 and the subsequent closure of dozens of San Francisco MPs led directly to the current AAMP boom in the SF Bay area. Thus, it might not be out of question for a similar change in climate in Northern VA and DC to lead to a similar change in MP MO.
Some of the SF Bay AAMPs are one-girl, independent places, but the better, larger spots usually feature 2-3 girls. Pricing is remarkably standardized.
Vito
[QUOTE=Big Daddy Don]I believe the house makes a good profit with $60 from each customer and the girls do very well for themselves at $100 each. I should hope that no one is going to accept a price increase.[/QUOTE]While I have no doubt the house makes a good profit, I decided to try to calculate just how much money a girl makes per hour.
From my conversation with these girls, $15000 in one month is a good haul. Based on normal spa hours of 10AM - 2PM and 30 days a month, that's 16 hours a day or 480 hours a month. That means essentially they're making $31.25 an hour or about the equivalent of a $65000 salary.
If we were to claim that their job is actually a 24/7 job (since they have to stay couped up in their little places), their hourly pay would actually be less than $21 and be the equivalent of $45000.
I think these numbers chip away at the myth that these girls live some sort of luxurious lifestyle. The only reason they may seem "wealthier" than you and I is two-fold: 1) They work hard. 2) They play hard.
Not only do they have to stay couped in some dark, danky place 24/7, but they're also sacrificing their bodies and youth. And yes, even those "nasty" 50-year old past-their-prime spa girls are sacrificing something physically, though it may not be considered as "precious" as a young, virgin womanhood.
I am no white knight, but I am a human being which is why I shake my head when I read the occasional post about some guy deciding not to leave tip, or leaving less than the standard amount due to "poor service". If you did the deed, just pay the damn $100 and don't come back. You're the same fuckface who eats the entire steak at a restaurant before complaining to the waiter it was undercooked and demanding it be on the house while making an obnoxious scene and making it awkward for the rest of the diners.
By the way, none of this was directed at you, Big Daddy Don. Your post just made me think a little.
[QUOTE=Big Daddy Don]Personaly, I find that $160 is more than enough to pay for a FS "massage". The rent on a commercial space is far more than an appartment so an increase in price would definitly not be justified. If prices do start to rise, my visits will definitly decline.
As for not being written up in the local papers for visiting a "bawdy house", do you not think the same charge would apply if an LE sting hit an appartment as opposed to a storefront?
The risk factor has gone up for the monger now. It seems the risk was always there for the providers. You didn't used to hear mongers listed in the raids like now. Perhaps a price cut or specials like the freebie card should come back to encourage business in light of the recent happenings.
I believe the house makes a good profit with $60 from each customer and the girls do very well for themselves at $100 each. I should hope that no one is going to accept a price increase.[/QUOTE]Commercial space costs more, but not that much more. A single girl working out of an apartment (or hotel) would definitely warrant a higher fee, unless you'd like to propose that four girls work in one apartment bringing in an obvious stream of strange gentlemen at all hours of the day.
Also, while I always appreciate a good bargain hunter, I don't think making a price cut or freebie card would make them money. I know various establishments have had VIP cards in the past, but I bet they actually lost money on those. As it stands, they have the same amount of customers with or without VIP cards.
[QUOTE=Big Daddy Don]As for not being written up in the local papers for visiting a "bawdy house", do you not think the same charge would apply if an LE sting hit an appartment as opposed to a storefront?[/QUOTE]Yes, some of the local hotel-based incall escort services have been hit with LE stings and shut down. Condos, as private residences, are probably harder for LE to get warrants for unless someone specifically complains about one to LE. Who is to say that you're specifically paying for sex? Unlike a place of business in a storefront, people can legally have consensual sex in residential buildings.
For example, when I visit one, I step inside, give the girl an envelope with the specified donation inside, and don't discuss any money for a specific act, sexual or otherwise. We just get down to fun and what transpires is a private manner between two consenting adults. Like in a storefront or business park AMP, if undercover LE comes in and starts to negotiate a specific price for a specific act, any smart girl will get nervous and not offer FS or other sexual services. If you read the massage ordnances I posted, residential massages are only allowed theoretically in the premises of the client.
I agree with Virile Vito. Many trends originate in California and I believe we will see more Korean girls starting AAMPs. Advertising will need to be very discreet, and like most of the Latino MPs that don't advertise openly and fly under the radar, they can stay open longer without LE or health department harassment.
Finally, this is not a hobby for the poor. Yes, $160 is a lot--it is less in some places, more in others, but most of the girls that get into this line of work know what they are getting into before they start, but are doing so to pay off debts they have incurred, earn money to care for their families, and sometimes support their extravagant lifestyle and spending habits.
The girls are always at risk and I always do my utmost to treat them kindly and with respect, especially those that are friendly and provide a GFE. I have become friends with several providers and they sacrifice a lot as Jeriholic described for what they earn.
My ATF spa girl (and a real friend who called me nearly every day) who previously worked at Downtown, Happiness, and Sun in DC; Philly; Waterbury, CT; and HWC among other places was presumably arrested on Black Wednesday at a suburban Pennsylvania AMP where she was working and I haven't heard from her since then. I can't imagine what she has been going through and two of her former co-workers I talked to about her at HWC are terrified at what may have happened to her. They know the same fate may be waiting for them.
I have one comment and one question/report.
First off, I know that I am still a newbie but I'm sure this goes without saying because I know you all feel the same...this sucks... I have been out of the country for the past couple weeks and when I finally get home looking, forward to a little therapy, I naturally figured I would RTTF before I make a move and boy am I glad I did. A lot has happened while I was gone. I am not going to go on about it because you guys seemed to have covered it all from what I have read. One of you guys had pointed me in the direction of the Black Wed posts and when I read them, I just hoped it would not happen anytime soon in WB. Just when I am getting comfortable and really enjoying myself...oh well, I am preaching to the choir here.
Anyway, on to my report. I am a creature of habit so I have only been frequenting Sakura prior to my trip and my last couple visits were great. I think I was spoiled by my first visit there because I ended up seeing Sue and as I said before, it was great and since then no one has really compared, up until now. I always call first but Sue is never available when I am heading down for my therapy so I roll the dice with whoever and although they have been good, they have not been "Sue good".
Until I met Connie. My first time seeing her started out the same as others, kind of average first 15-20 minutes, but then came the DATY. Like some of you, this is something I love to do so once things got started, I was looking for some DATY and that is when Connie changed. She was actually getting into this and without going into too much detail, from this point on it was a true GFE. My total time was about 65-70 minutes which was a first for me. Granted it was a Tuesday night and I didn't hear the bell ring once while I was there but that has not stopped them from only going 45 minutes before.
I would like to go into detail but I am afraid I will be putting too much out there for "others" to read. Feel free to PM me for more.
My question for you senior guys that have experienced this before is this. Why did Connie try to conceal or keep her O's quiet? She had at least two each time we were together but she would not let it out. She kept covering her mouth to not make too much noise. It was just really weird. Will she get in trouble with Mama or just doesn't want anyone outside the door to hear exactly what is going on? This is the way it was both times I was with her. It was not an act like I have seen before, she was actually afraid to make any sounds of enjoyment. Maybe this is commen, I guess that's why I am asking.
Well, it's good to be home but not to this news that I was faced with. My last week away, I was only thinking about coming home and making a trip to see Connie again, now I don't know what to do.
Any of you boys tried this one out in Tysons area? They are on TER but say they are just private modeling? WTF? Private modeling?
Any intel would be nice, pls PM me
PC out
[url]http://www.secrettemptation.com/Beauties.html[/url]
I personally have not used there service but to me when I searched through TER it seemed like its a FBSM only. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688]Any of you boys tried this one out in Tysons area? They are on TER but say they are just private modeling? WTF? Private modeling?
Any intel would be nice, pls PM me
PC out[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mong678] My question for you senior guys that have experienced this before is this. Why did Connie try to conceal or keep her O's quiet? She had at least two each time we were together but she would not let it out. She kept covering her mouth to not make too much noise. It was just really weird. Will she get in trouble with Mama or just doesn't want anyone outside the door to hear exactly what is going on? [/QUOTE]
Now think about it for a minute. Is it appropriate to hear howls of feminine passion echoing from behind closed doors of a massage therapy establishment? It is not like she is in your home and in your bedroom where you both can howl like a couple of monkeys in heat.
It is a place of business.
And have some consideration for other patrons in the adjoining rooms. It would be embarrassing to have to listen to the "oooohs and ahhhhhs..." of your orgasmic friend. After all they came for a massage not to listen to a porno movie soundtrack.
Let's assume you're enjoying your massage, would you want to hear the grunting and moaning of another fellow? Maybe you would... who knows.
[QUOTE=Drew Park]Now think about it for a minute. Is it appropriate to hear howls of feminine passion echoing from behind closed doors of a massage therapy establishment? It is not like she is in your home and in your bedroom where you both can howl like a couple of monkeys in heat.
It is a place of business.
And have some consideration for other patrons in the adjoining rooms. It would be embarrassing to have to listen to the "oooohs and ahhhhhs..." of your orgasmic friend. After all they came for a massage not to listen to a porno movie soundtrack.
Let's assume you're enjoying your massage, would you want to hear the grunting and moaning of another fellow? Maybe you would... who knows.[/QUOTE]That is true, although I do want to hear her noises while I am with her, I sure wouldn't want to hear any of you guys next door to me while we were having a session.
I am tempted to make a trip South anyway but I am still a little leary of it. Wednesday would be a perfect day for me, but I'll admit it I'm a little freaked out with all the recent activity. Wish I knew of a few others that have been there recently without any problems.
[QUOTE=Mong678]I have one comment and one question/report.
First off, I know that I am still a newbie but I'm sure this goes without saying because I know you all feel the same...this sucks... I have been out of the country for the past couple weeks and when I finally get home looking, forward to a little therapy, I naturally figured I would RTTF before I make a move and boy am I glad I did. A lot has happened while I was gone. I am not going to go on about it because you guys seemed to have covered it all from what I have read. One of you guys had pointed me in the direction of the Black Wed posts and when I read them, I just hoped it would not happen anytime soon in WB. Just when I am getting comfortable and really enjoying myself...oh well, I am preaching to the choir here.
Anyway, on to my report. I am a creature of habit so I have only been frequenting Sakura prior to my trip and my last couple visits were great. I think I was spoiled by my first visit there because I ended up seeing Sue and as I said before, it was great and since then no one has really compared, up until now. I always call first but Sue is never available when I am heading down for my therapy so I roll the dice with whoever and although they have been good, they have not been "Sue good".
Until I met Connie. My first time seeing her started out the same as others, kind of average first 15-20 minutes, but then came the DATY. Like some of you, this is something I love to do so once things got started, I was looking for some DATY and that is when Connie changed. She was actually getting into this and without going into too much detail, from this point on it was a true GFE. My total time was about 65-70 minutes which was a first for me. Granted it was a Tuesday night and I didn't hear the bell ring once while I was there but that has not stopped them from only going 45 minutes before.
I would like to go into detail but I am afraid I will be putting too much out there for "others" to read. Feel free to PM me for more.
My question for you senior guys that have experienced this before is this. Why did Connie try to conceal or keep her O's quiet? She had at least two each time we were together but she would not let it out. She kept covering her mouth to not make too much noise. It was just really weird. Will she get in trouble with Mama or just doesn't want anyone outside the door to hear exactly what is going on? This is the way it was both times I was with her. It was not an act like I have seen before, she was actually afraid to make any sounds of enjoyment. Maybe this is commen, I guess that's why I am asking.
Well, it's good to be home but not to this news that I was faced with. My last week away, I was only thinking about coming home and making a trip to see Connie again, now I don't know what to do.[/QUOTE]All I know is that the girls have physical needs too, and if 2 people click, its human nature isnt it?? After all, if they cum we feel like we accomplished something of a great feat and we get our male ego inflated...LOL I for one love to make a girl squeel, dont you?
Dont I wish to make that little spinner I saw today Dtown but the problem is if I make her feel too good, I may have to be her BF... Strangely enuff that has happened before.
PC out
[QUOTE=Mong678]I have one comment and one question/report.
Until I met Connie. My first time seeing her started out the same as others, kind of average first 15-20 minutes, but then came the DATY. Like some of you, this is something I love to do so once things got started, I was looking for some DATY and that is when Connie changed. She was actually getting into this and without going into too much detail, from this point on it was a true GFE. My total time was about 65-70 minutes which was a first for me. Granted it was a Tuesday night and I didn't hear the bell ring once while I was there but that has not stopped them from only going 45 minutes before.
I would like to go into detail but I am afraid I will be putting too much out there for "others" to read. Feel free to PM me for more.
My question for you senior guys that have experienced this before is this. Why did Connie try to conceal or keep her O's quiet? She had at least two each time we were together but she would not let it out. She kept covering her mouth to not make too much noise. It was just really weird. Will she get in trouble with Mama or just doesn't want anyone outside the door to hear exactly what is going on? This is the way it was both times I was with her. It was not an act like I have seen before, she was actually afraid to make any sounds of enjoyment. Maybe this is commen, I guess that's why I am asking.[/QUOTE]Welcome back to our nightmare. I wouldn't worry about Connie wanting to be quiet. The cardinal rule is that working girls aren't supposed to fall in love with their customers or go overboard faking passion with lots of moaning. We all have found women who seem to genuinely enjoy their time with us. You can be sure the girls talk about their special customers among themselves in the breakroom. Some don't care if they find a BF among their customers, but others are sensitive about being perceived as enjoying themselves "too much" at work.
Of course, with the bonafide fears of LE, most don't want adjoining tenants to hear anything "sexual" going on. Just go with it and don't worry about it. Connie's a woman and women have been known to be irrational at times, too.
[QUOTE=Jet Ranger] Connie's a woman and women have been known to be irrational at times, too.[/QUOTE]
Oh, that's just crazy talk right there.
My last post got a lot of response from you guys!! Everyone seems to have valid points.
I certainly do not think the girls have it on easy street. It would really take the fun out of it if I had to DATY and then lay ugly fat women all day every day!! BUT that is the life most of them have chosen and it is probably better life than they had.
I agree with the one poster, even if I have a bad time I just leave the tip and ask for someone different the next time. A few times I have felt too rushed or that the girl was rude, but usually it was just that we did not click or one of us had an off day. Just move on.
As for the finances, I am not sure how many customers they service in a day and yes the days are long. (kind of like many lower paid immigrant workers who must wait to be chosen for an unknown job and be ready when it hits) But I don't usually see the places empty. If a girl does 4 tricks a day (less than four hours working, the rest of the time spent screwing off) working 6 days a week and taking two weeks vacation, that is $120,000 a year. If they really worked (see doing tricks) for 16 hours a day at $100 a pop they would be pulling in close to 1/2 mill a year!! But I think 3 1/2 hours a day for $400 is more realistic. Yes Mamasan might get her cut (I really don't know how it works) but Uncle Sam takes about 30% of my pie each year too.
$120,000 is pretty good pay for skilled manual labor. This is much better than "Pedro the landscaper" who works 12 hours a day (and works hard all 12 hours) to make about $120/day X 6 days a week X 50 weeks a year totaling a whopping $36,000 a year with cramped living conditions because you have to live with 8 room mates to make rent and send a little money home to support his family.
Very similar conditions for immigrant workers who come from poor countries in seach of the all mighty dollar. It's just much easier to feel sorry for the pretty asian girl purring in your ear and stroking your fuck stick than to feel sorry for "Pedro" who is unshaven and reeks of fertilizer and beer who just spent all day busting his ass for the same amount of money that the girl made in 45 minutes.
Thanks for listening to the rant!! Bottom line is that it is risky for us all out there, providers and mongers alike. I just don't want to encourage a price hike in addition to the risks going up.
[QUOTE=Mong678]I have one comment and one question/report.
Until I met Connie. My first time seeing her started out the same as others, kind of average first 15-20 minutes, but then came the DATY. Like some of you, this is something I love to do so once things got started, I was looking for some DATY and that is when Connie changed. She was actually getting into this and without going into too much detail, from this point on it was a true GFE. My total time was about 65-70 minutes which was a first for me. Granted it was a Tuesday night and I didn't hear the bell ring once while I was there but that has not stopped them from only going 45 minutes before.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone know if this is(or was) the same Connie from the now closed CPHC in DC pre Black Wednesday? I called today for an appointment but was told she was on "vacation".
MnV
[quote=Big Daddy Don] Just one Comment [/quote][quote]As for the finances, I am not sure how many customers they service in a day and yes the days are long. (kind of like many lower paid immigrant workers who must wait to be chosen for an unknown job and be ready when it hits) But I don't usually see the places empty. If a girl does 4 tricks a day (less than four hours working, the rest of the time spent screwing off) working 6 days a week and taking two weeks vacation, that is $120,000 a year. If they really worked (see doing tricks) for 16 hours a day at $100 a pop they would be pulling in close to 1/2 mill a year!! But I think 3 1/2 hours a day for $400 is more realistic. Yes Mamasan might get her cut (I really don't know how it works) but Uncle Sam takes about 30% of my pie each year too.
$120,000 is pretty good pay for skilled manual labor. This is much better than "Pedro the landscaper" who works 12 hours a day (and works hard all 12 hours) to make about $120/day X 6 days a week X 50 weeks a year totaling a whopping $36,000 a year with cramped living conditions because you have to live with 8 room mates to make rent and send a little money home to support his family. [quote=Big Daddy Don] Just one Comment[/quote]Like the strip clubs, where the dancers are not paid but have to pay a fee to the club for being allowed to dance, the providers at AMPs pay for working there. This is beyond the up front house fee. I have heard anything from 50%-75% of the "standard" tip gets taken by the house in charges for the use of the room, condoms, food and board, transportation and anything else they can get.
[quote]As for the finances, I am not sure how many customers they service in a day and yes the days are long. (kind of like many lower paid immigrant workers who must wait to be chosen for an unknown job and be ready when it hits) But I don't usually see the places empty. If a girl does 4 tricks a day (less than four hours working, the rest of the time spent screwing off) working 6 days a week and taking two weeks vacation, that is $120,000 a year. If they really worked (see doing tricks) for 16 hours a day at $100 a pop they would be pulling in close to 1/2 mill a year!! But I think 3 1/2 hours a day for $400 is more realistic. Yes Mamasan might get her cut (I really don't know how it works) but Uncle Sam takes about 30% of my pie each year too.
$120,000 is pretty good pay for skilled manual labor. This is much better than "Pedro the landscaper" who works 12 hours a day (and works hard all 12 hours) to make about $120/day X 6 days a week X 50 weeks a year totaling a whopping $36,000 a year with cramped living conditions because you have to live with 8 room mates to make rent and send a little money home to support his family. Like the strip clubs, where the dancers are not paid but have to pay a fee to the club for being allowed to dance, the providers at AMPs pay for working there. This is beyond the up front house fee. I have heard anything from 50%-75% of the "standard" tip gets taken by the house in charges for the use of the room, condoms, food and board, transportation and anything else they can get.[/QUOTE]
I have heard that the 50 to 75 percent taken by the house is fairly rare. The few spa girls I have talked to outside or talked to about anything like this, point blank said they made good money. The fact of the matter is, a spa girl getting ripped off if not the norm, it is the exception now a days. And just to touch on another note, girls having to stay in the same spa for a month at a time or whatever, is not unheard of for work anyways. Check the guys who work on oil rigs, or on airliners. It is work, bottom line. I do not get in the game of feeling sorry for someone becuase they have to work. Many hot Korean girls (most AMP girls are Korean, to state the obvious) work shitty jobs and live with their parents making less then 20K a year. Work is work.
With the extremely high salary (untaxed) involving no education, comes sacrifices.
I like about 90 percent of the ladies I see, however, as a great man once said, seek fact from truth. I do not get into the game of feeling sorry for girls who wear 100 dollar mini skirts. Quite frankly it is not even venom, it is just business is business, and they do not feel sorry when your sexually deprived ass walks out the door either. They really don't ask for sympathy and neither do we (Or, should I say neither do I). Hm, must just be me.
Zhuxi
Hmmm,
I'd suck off fat old ladies for 120k a year. Heh, might even enjoy it.
[QUOTE=Omeyer]Hmmm,
I'd suck off fat old ladies for 120k a year. Heh, might even enjoy it.[/QUOTE]
I've been saying the same thing. :D
On another note, a few reliable sources tell me the typical room and board for the girls is 400 a week, not a deduction of tips. Barely a dent in those finances.
Zhuxi
Well, even though I have been a little afraid to make my way back down South since I am back in the country, I decided I would call Sakura and see if my new favorite therapist Connie was working. Well, she was on "vacation" so I asked if Sue was available and I was happy to hear that she was.
I was hesitant to go in but after I sat and watched the parking lot to see if anything strange was going on, I headed on in for my appointment with Sue.
It was a weird time but a really good one. For starters, it was crazy busy for a Tuesday afternoon. I have never been there during the day but I figured it would not be busy. When I called to schedule, the bell was ringing and while I was there the bell rang four times.
The down side was that I was in and out in 30 minutes. Sue kept telling me that "we so busy, sorry" but I will say that she made it a great 30 minutes.
It started by Sue telling me that the hot water was not working so I could not have a TS but she would clean me off with cold water. When we got back, the water was hot so she had me lay down and as she rushed through the TS the water got cold and that was a little uncomfortable. Then she did something weird. She kept saying "I warm you up" and as she had me sit on the edge of the table she put her leg up over mine and all of a sudden it was warm! She gave me a little GS on my leg. She laughed and kept saying "GS, GS" and kept laughing. I'm not into that and thankfully we were at the TS. No big deal, just weird.
Anyway, in to a quick massage and then the flip. As before she had her tongue in all the right places and it was great. A little bit of everything, missionary, doggie and ended with no cover and COF.
Other than the short time, it was a good trip and I will look forward to seeing Sue again.
I am still a little leary but hopefully things calm down in a little while.
Has anyone else been venturing out? I have not seen many reports, or is everyone keeping to themselves. If I should not be posting this stuff, hopefully someone will let me know.
[QUOTE=Zhuxi]I've been saying the same thing. :D
On another note, a few reliable sources tell me the typical room and board for the girls is 400 a week, not a deduction of tips. Barely a dent in those finances.
Zhuxi[/QUOTE]
Some of the other expenses they pay are pretty out there, e.g. $100-150 for transport to next working location, thank you tip to manager and kitchen mama when leaving ~$500-700, occasional trip to grocery store $300-350, a newbie paying $500/month for three months for a mattress and empty room in a managers home, $400+ for Ktaxi ride from Flushing to DC, trip to SC/NC/GA for fake id $3000-3500, having someone tweak their visa/passport $5000+, flight from Korea to Bristish Columbia and being snuck across the US border and a flight to DC via Atlanta, your guess is a good as mine, an unexpected day off $500 to the house, fee for money laundering of money back to Korea and/or points on any outstanding debts. But, I'd have to say being stuck pretty much 24/7 during a working stretch, not seeing family for a year or two at a stretch, and not having anything close to a normal life is probably the heaviest cost (IMHO).
Based on a good review I took a chance and headed over to Sakura today for a little rr.
Didn't have a formal request in, just let lady luck do her thing and I was not disappointed(PM for the details).
Though quite frankly, it's been awhile since I've hit the strip mall as these traffic stops have really taken a toll on me, making me even more paranoid then usual, every time the bell rang(and it rang a lot), I couldn't help but wonder...:eek:!!
BTW, I took full advantage of transit services to get to the door...lets see LE have the balls to pull a bus over. :rolleyes:
Be safe out there,
MnV
[QUOTE=MoonView]
BTW, I took full advantage of transit services to get to the door...lets see LE have the balls to pull a bus over. :rolleyes:
MnV[/QUOTE]LMAO. Good one.
Well, MV, that's a creative way to keep from getting pulled over. Of course, if you are there during a raid, it's a different story.
Well, using the bus is one way to get around, but LE could stilll harass you at the bus stop while waiting for the bus after you've left.
Good to know Sakura is still open.
[QUOTE=Seva Lurker]Well, using the bus is one way to get around, but LE could stilll harass you at the bus stop while waiting for the bus after you've left.
Good to know Sakura is still open.[/QUOTE]Well, they could, but, we don't live in a police state - yet. I doubt that it's worth their time. There is enough business there that they have lots of options for folks to stop. Of course, they are supposed to have probably cause. Of course, leaving a suspected "bawdy house", might be probably cause enough.
[QUOTE=MoonView]I took full advantage of transit services to get to the door...[/QUOTE]
Hmmmmmm. Instead of VIP cards maybe the AMPs should offer Metro Fare Cards?
Visited **** (senior mongers can PM for name..Old spot change of names and new mamasan) again and saw Erica... She didn't recognize me even though I saw her 3 weeks ago. Not surprising I guess there are plenty of balding fat mongers going there. lol
I felt this was a less GFE.. No kissing just pecks on the lips. TS was ok and massage was non existant, or really really weak massage I should say. A little neck rub and then on to the DATY whic was good. I think it was late so she may have been tired. Cowgirl & missionary was it. Nothing spectacular. Although she did say that she worked Christmas & NYE so I guess that could be the reason for lack of energy.
I would give overall experience a 5.
Looks I will say the body was thin but the face not that cute so overall 6.0
Attitude 6.5
Service 5
Overall 5.5
I will say this place generally has great service and sexy ass girls.
Maybe we should start wearing t-shirts that say "My Bawdy, My Choice"
[QUOTE=Friendly1]Well, they could, but, we don't live in a police state - yet. I doubt that it's worth their time. There is enough business there that they have lots of options for folks to stop. Of course, they are supposed to have probably cause. Of course, leaving a suspected "bawdy house", might be probably cause enough.[/QUOTE]
Had to get some relaxation during the playoffs today. Decided to give summy a chance again and WOW. Still will give 5 for looks. TS was warm and got the right spots. Asked for light massage and was sensual. Got some nice AR. asked if I like and I said hell ya. On the flip she started the flirts and talking like I am so beautiful, ya ya ya. Your stil gonna get the standard tip. I love those fat nipples for sure. Koreans have the best in the world. WHOA.
I never seen anyone else in there so maybe will ask next time.
[QUOTE=Drew Park]Hmmmmmm. Instead of VIP cards maybe the AMPs should offer Metro Fare Cards?[/QUOTE]Why not pass out pepples. One pepple gets you basic massage, more opens the menu.
[I had this was funny thought, would this work. hmm]
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ESCORT AD DECODER ---- Here's a little Humor
Reply to: [email]pers-258345356@craigslist.org[/email]
Date: 2007-01-05, 8:22PM PST
ESCORT ADVERTISEMENT AND WEBSITE DECODER.
Ultimate GFE........ Has a good imagination
I enjoy my work........A highly accomplished actress, fakes "O"s better than Meg Ryan.
Down-to-earth........Isn't high.
Energetic ........Is high.
Discreet ........Too disorganized to keep your personal information.
Outcall only ........Has a car, lives in a motel.
Incall only........Doesn't have a car, lives in a motel.
BBW...........Pick a fold, any fold.
I answer my phone ........No computer.
E-mail me only ........ No phone.
Fill out my online booking form........ You will never get an appointment, ever.
Punctual........+/- 2 hours.
Educated........5 years of high school.
Wants to spend time getting to know you........Kills as much of the hour as possible with idle chit-chat.
Appreciates tips........$200 for a no-touch dance, $300 more for FS.
Girl-next-door..........Has a face like a basset hound.
Mature.............Take her photo, add 15 years.
Classy..........Washes.
University Educated.......... Bartending School.
Sensitive..........Doesn't laugh at you to your face.
Loves meeting new people..........She needs the money.
Lingerie available..........BYO, she'll be more than happy to wear it.
Sensual..........Turns the TV off.
Referrals required..........Wants to gauge how skanky you really are.
Deposit required..........Primadonna.
Sophisticated..........Stops the action to take cell phone calls.
Blonde..........Bad dye job.
Redhead..........Wig.
Couples welcome..........At least women usually wash.
Can bring a friend..........Anything to get you off faster.
Smoker..........6 packs a day.
Non-Smoker..........2 packs a day.
Doesn't do drugs..........That happens after the session.
Face obscured on site for privacy..........Butt ugly.
Elegant Dinner Companion..........A free meal is always nice.
Tight butt..........No hips, ass looks like 14 year old boy.
B cup ..........BB's on a breadboard.
C cup..........B cup.
D cup..........C cup.
DD cup..........Fat.
115..........140.
125..........150.
135..........160.
140+..........A house.
New pics on site..........Reviewers slammed her for dated pics.
I only take 1 appointment per day..........The other 5 are just friends.
My car broke down..........She has better things to do.
My email crashed, I lost everything..........She has better things to do for the next week.
Retirement..........She met a BF who doesn't like her job.
Coming out of retirement..........She was dumped.
Holiday Specials..........Kids need winter clothes.
Light Domination..........You don't want FS? All the better.
If you seek a onetime experience, look elsewhere..........look elsewhere.
Nice apartment..........Doesn't live in a motel.
A few piercings..........Face and bod look like a pin cushion.
A few tats..........More ink than bare skin.
Very accommodating..........Speaks greek if you are less than 6", $100 extra.
Now independent............Too flaky even for the agency.
Genuine pics...........Just not of her.
34-23-34.................. 34-32-40
pc out
[QUOTE=Mong678]Has anyone else been venturing out? I have not seen many reports, or is everyone keeping to themselves. If I should not be posting this stuff, hopefully someone will let me know.[/QUOTE]Been wondering the same thing. Should we still post recent visits?
Been reading some illiterate and shady posts.
Quick Poll Please
Policemen are notoriously bad spellers with horrid diction. Frankly I am amazed they can post here, much less log in.
[QUOTE=Benefactor9]Policemen are notoriously bad spellers with horrid diction. Frankly I am amazed they can post here, much less log in.[/QUOTE]
If you really want to be amazed, you should have a look at [url=http://forums.officer.com]their forum[/url].
[b][size=5]Cops are at Kinja and busting the place.[/b][/size]
[b][size=3]This is a real time report.[/b][/size]
[b]Forewarned is Forearmed.[/b]
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Looks like a good thing I did not venture to Kinja yesterday evening by BSR's report!!
I did get out to Sakura. wasn't busy so I got the line up. Tammy, Michelle and ?. Michelle looked cute but tired. I picked Tammy since she looked eager to go. Very bouncy and energenic, led me around by "Little Daddy" and kept calling him "little brother". Comical but fun. Proper table shower. Nice massage for a FS. No AR though, just a little tickle with the finger then flip. Very playful during start moving to an overenthusiastic CBJ on to DATY. That's when she went crazy. She was very responsive to the tounge and really seemed to like it. Mish for finish. I wish the tables were bigger!
I know I should RTFF but what is the breakdown of the rating system again?
looks = 7
attitude= 9
body= 7 (I like little waif types. She was thick, not fat with big breasts)
Performance= 7 (only because of lack of AR)
On my way home, I still felt the need for a good rub down though. I figured a little helping hand for the end would be nice for that little extra drain too. I stopped by A-Plus. Lisa answered the door. Very pretty girl with ideal build. No TS, great massage. Good and relaxed for the flip. Popped her top but that was as far as she would go. Extra lube for a very pleasant HJ. It was what I expected. I had been there before and actually got the best HJ I ever got at an AMP. Funny though, she looked very expectant when I pulled out some bills. I peeled off the standard .6 and pocketed the rest. Looked like she was going to say something but I just smiled. She knew the standard rate, laughed and gave me a peck on the cheek.
No real rating since it was only and HJ place, just pretty girl and relaxing massage.
Drove by Kinja just after 6 yesterday evening. "open" sign was on and the place looked typically calm.
Nothing showing up on the Potomac News website yet.
Hoping it was some disorderly customer and not a big thing . . . hoping . . .
[QUOTE=Omeyer]
Hoping it was some disorderly customer and not a big thing . . . hoping . ..[/QUOTE]
Whether or not this is a big thing remains to be seen. All the hoping won't help that this was a bona fide raid and not anything else.