This forum is for distillations of the vast knowledge gleaned through hard work by experienced mongers.
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This forum is for distillations of the vast knowledge gleaned through hard work by experienced mongers.
Robux
On 2 occasions now, my ‘hard’ work has yielded more than I bargained for.
If you monger in the Baltimore area long enough, you may eventually be rewarded with an STD. These SW’s we are knocking the bottoms out of are ripe with disease. It’s the gift that keeps on giving.
I had an STD once before while living in another city and have had a few scares here in B-more that turned out to be nothing. But I’ve also contracted 2 STD’s while conducting business with B-more SW’s. The first couple of times I went to see a regular physician to get checked out, but it was very uncomfortable both for me and the physician as well. One did not even want to check me for STD’s.
Eventually, one of my SW favorites advised me to go to the clinic on North Caroline. It turned out to be such a great place that I wanted to post information here about it. I’ve taken a few SW’s there as well. This clinic has been mentioned on this board before. In my opinion, you could not find a better place to go to check Mr. Happy’s health. This is what they do all day long; look at drippy dicks and seeping bearded clams. The people who work there are professional and non-judgmental. You name the STD, they can test for it. You’ll have to wait a few days for tests for HIV and maybe Syphilis. But you can wait for most test results.
The testing is free and I believe the medication is as well. I received free medication when I tested positive, once for the clap, once for vaginitis. Please hold your flames on that last one. When the (female) doctor told me what I had, I replied “but I don’t have a vagina”. She said it is extremely rare for men to contract this, but I had it. There may be some STD’s where they only write a prescription, but to me, that is still more than acceptable. For me, getting the testing done is the hardest part.
I’ll paste the information I cut out of the website for this place. I know the address is correct, but I am not certain about the phone number. And I would NEVER trust the hours. I would try to call first. The last time I went there, which was on a Thursday or Friday, they informed me they had filled their quota and would not be seeing anyone else that day. I had never heard that before. Go early; don’t take the chance. There is some metered parking nearby, and you can always park your Mongermobile ® in the John Hopkins lot 1/2 block away.
When you go through the front entrance, you go to the left and go to the room at the end of the corridor. They will ask you to fill out a form with name and address and other info. I always give them my real name because I honestly don’t give a damn. But you can always give a false name and address. It was advised on this topic before, that if you give a false name, make sure you remember what it is in the event you need to return a few days later for test results. You won’t get the results without the name. This info will not be given out over the phone either, so don’t call for it.
After you fill out the form, they will give you a number and you can sit in one of the uncomfortable chairs in their waiting room. My average time from in to out of the clinic is about 1 hour to maybe 1 1/2 hours. I always get the HIV tests done though, and since this requires blood work, it takes longer because you see 2 people for testing. If you skipped the blood work, you could get out quicker. But I would never skip something so important.
Baltimore City Health Dept.
Eastern Health District
620 N. Caroline Street
Baltimore, MD 21205
Phone : (410) 396-9410
Days/Hrs : Mon-Wed, Fri (8:30am-4pm), / Thu (8:30am-12pm)
Named in honor of the prime hunting grounds of our pal Clix, seems to have been first used by Incognito here: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=66182&highlight=clix+loop#post66182[/url]
Here it is defined by Clix: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=80332&highlight=clix+loop#post80332[/url]
Robux
He mentions a "Diamonds" who has HIV.Is that THE Diamond???
Larry!
[QUOTE=Larry 56]He mentions a "Diamonds" who has HIV.Is that THE Diamond???
Larry![/QUOTE]
Larry, I was going to send you a PM, but maybe a post would work better.
The Diamond I know is a WSW with the bad hands and her real first name is Mary ( I seen her paperwork when she was released by LE) I now call her Mary Diamond, because there are a couple of other "Diamonds" one is a BSW.
Now when I ask any of the girls if they have seen Mary Diamond most know who I am talking about.
I don't know if any are HIV or not, just be careful with any of them, You never know if they ever get sick enough to share a needle with one of the jerk guys that hang out in the same house that they stay at.
Happy Hunting, Ray
One of the SW's who reads what I write here told me that "the" Diamond has syphilis. I think she was just jealous that I wrote such great things about Diamond. I'm not going to tell Yuh what SW told me that, but I'm sure Yuh can figure it out.
The needle thing: When you have several needle users in the same house, it is easy for a user to accidentally pick up someone else's used one and use it themselves. Caps can also fall off, causing accidental sticks. After the dope hits them; most don't have enough sense to put the needle in a safe out-of-the-way place.
Many of them look at the hell their lives have become, and some couldn't care less if they die of AIDS and take a few of us with them.
The good news is condoms do work.
Althuogh, I no longer pratice this fine hobby. I do continue to read the message boards.
This morning while drive east on Pulaski just before Conkin street. I observed a very nice BSW strolling west, apparently, so did a practicing monger a few cars of ahead of me. He made a U-turn from the right lane without reagard for ANY traffic around him. the car in front of me re-ended the car that stopped for this MORON. he succeded in picking up the SW and bringing traffic to a complete stop in both directions.
Not only did he not bother to notice traffic, he also didn't notice LE comeing the opposit way either. he'd hadn't driven 20 yards before he was pulled over.
I know she was a SW, because I've seen her strolling before and I've seen her in cuffs a few times. so I'm guessing LE knows her also.
The moral of the story is, ... well you can see the moral of the story. DON'T LET JUNIOR TAKE CHARGE!
Mongering knowledge around PP and Hampden area since they're not that familar with many mongers compared to the markets of W/W & B/CB area.
PP mongering area actually extends farther than Patterson Park and Baltimore & Conkling St. and they are:
1. On Haven St between Baltimore St & Pulaski Hwy (Rt 40). But you gotta watch out for the damn doughnut lovers at a Dunkin Donuts on Pulaski Hwy & Haven St. I only pick up SWs if they are close to Baltimore St far away from DD.
2. On Pulaski Hwy between Haven St & toward east where it merges with Monument St (there is a Shell gas station at the junction). There used to be tons of SWs but LEs chased them away but once in awhile you can spot them.
3. On Kresson St between Lombard St & Pulaski Hwy. I used to spot SWs all the time in front of Uhal (Pulaski & Kresson) but LEs did a good job. But you can still spot few. Kresson St is tricky because it's a one-way street from Lombard but two-way from Pulaski.
And then there is Hampden....on Falls Rd between 36th & 41st St. The most SW's I've seen one time in that area is only 4 and that's over last 5 years so it's the hardest pickup spot IMHO. Also it doesn't help that stupid SWs hang out on just one street so LEs will notice for sure if you drive around and around and around. SWs usually hang out near RiteAid and 7/11. I don't bother with 7/11 because it's hard to tell if they are civs and the damn piggies also love that place.
What does RTFF mean?
[QUOTE=Scorpo Rising]What does RTFF mean?[/QUOTE]Congratulations, Scorpo, you have reached your 25 posts. So I guess that means you will stop posting your idiotic questions. As I mentioned in the Philadelphia forum, you need to go to your mommy to ask these things. I don't know how old you are, but you act like a 12 year-old.
In response to your question, if you really care for an answer, which I doubt, click on "abbreviations" at the top of your screen. That's what the grownups do when they are puzzled by an acronym. Or is that word too big for you?
I dread the passage of 6 months when you will presumably attain senior member status. If you continue to abuse the forums here with your short unnecessary questions and don't contribute something back to the forums, then you are going to get abused big time. Just a friendly warning.
Meanwhile, sit at your mother's knee, ask her lots of questions, go back to school if you have dropped out, and I'm sure you will learn what being a responsible member of a community entails.
[QUOTE=Horny Harry]Congratulations, Scorpo, you have reached your 25 posts.
In response to your question, if you really care for an answer, which I doubt, click on "abbreviations" at the top of your screen. [/QUOTE]Thank you for the information, Mr. Horny. I will treasure your generosity immensely. I am not counting how many times I have been given the pleasure of writing my thoughts but if you would like to continue it for me I have no objections.
I must say that someof your objections are a little off base but will more experience I am sure you will find your way on this forum. Keep on trucking, my friend. There is a lot of data that will lead you to the promised land of loose women. The kind of women you can have your way with, not the women you find in your normal life on this earth.
Like the Acronym commands: READ. There are pleasure huts in abundance here. I am sure they will take your money. Get Naked! It is a very healthy activity.
I have a word for you. It is PRICELESS.
HH:
Bullseye!
Peace.
Lax
[QUOTE=Laxman whose IQ is 2]HH:
Bullseye!
Peace.
Lax[/QUOTE]Excellent observation even though it is wrong. Keep trying. Practice makes perfect. It is known that God does not punish those who he has not given the intelligence to know better. If God won't punish you I won't hold it against you that you may be ill equipped to get on in this world. I have a word for you. It is HOWL.
I originally posted this on the "2005 General Reports" thread, but thought I would copy it here to make it easier for newbies to find.
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Everybody repeat after me.
Soliciting is a misdemeanor.
Soliciting is a misdemeanor.
Soliciting is a misdemeanor.
Got it!
Decoy FLE will not ever get into your vehicle. This is a safety violation of the highest order. I'm talking about her safety. No way she is going to risk her life on a misdemeanor arrest on which she knows you will be let out of central booking in 24 hours with no charges being filed.
The whole "are you a cop" thing is and always has been a total fucking waste of time. So is feeling each other up, with or without permission. The only thing either practice accomplishes is letting the sw know you are an amateur. If she gets in your vehicle and lets you drive away, she is not a cop.
I don't ever recall reading the following on this or any other board.
"I picked up this really hot sw and headed off to my favorite notel. We did the are you a cop thing and she responded, yes, I am. I immediately let her out and drove off. Thank god for this board".
No way will LE let one of their own get in a strange vehicle and allow them to be driven to an unknown destination without having multiple vehicles, including air support, following along. The officer will also be wired.
Guess what guys, we are not that important to them. They are not going to all that trouble and expense for a misdemeanor arrest. They save that shit for major drug busts and other felonies. No cop ever got a medal for arresting a john. They certainly are not going to put themselves in harms way to arrest some poor schmuck for soliciting.
Want to be safe. Follow three simple rules.
First, never pick up a girl you have never seen before. No matter how hot she is, avoid her until you have seen her on several occasions, or until you have seen her picked up by another monger with no resulting sound and light show. If it's a sting, LE will swoop in fast. And surprise, the girl will not be in the car.
Second, never discuss business through the windows of your car. If she won't get in before talking business, she is a COP. Don't even joke around with her. If she wants to talk to you through the window, ask for directions and get the hell out of there. If you are stupid enough to negotiate services with her outside your vehicle, she will tell you to meet her around the corner or down the block and then, bamm, you are surrounded. Hands up and get ready for 24 hours of hell.
Third, even if she gets in and you drive off, let her bring up business first. If she asks where you are going, don't say anything about a motel or parking. Just ask her where she wants to go. Not that you care, but make her initiate the transaction, especially the first mention of money. Picking up a girl, going to a motel and having sex is not illegal. But as soon as talk of cash or anything of value changing hands occurs, it becomes an illegal act.
Follow these three rules and you will be fine.
One last observation. Do you really want to take legal advice and risk your reputation, job, marriage, etc., from someone who has a major drug problem and lives in an abondoned building? Good luck if the answer is yes.
Use common sense, think with the big head and practice safe mongering.
Safe hunting to all, and happy holidays.
Muff Scout
this was originally posted on the "2006 general reports" thread, but i thought i would copy it here to make it easier for newbies to find as the year progresses.
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since my post debunking the “are you a cop” and the “touchy, feely” myths, i received a couple of pm’s from newbies asking questions about safe mongering. in response, i have put together these guidelines to help newbies enjoy this hobby in a safe and productive manner.
start by reading the forum. no, i’m not saying that to be a wise ass. it just makes good sense. if you read the forum, you will learn the geography of our monger hunting grounds, who the providers are, who gives good service and which girls to avoid, hot le spots and more. i can’t understand why so many of you don’t do this. if you were going into battle, wouldn’t you scout out the enemy and learn everything you could about them? well the same applies here. in our case, information represents power, safety and the path to a good time.
don’t monger with beer goggles on. alcohol and drugs impair your judgment, making it more likely that you will do something dumb, and wind up getting arrested, ripped off or worse.
secure your valuables. i don’t just mean your money, cell phone and digital camera. your most important valuable is your privacy. don’t leave anything laying around the car that has your home address on it, shows where you work or anything else that would allow a sw to follow you into your personal life. a married buddy of mine was blackmailed by a sw who saw his employee parking tag in the car, and showed up at his job with her boyfriend. it got so ugly, he had to change jobs.
protecting your identity also includes paying for the motel room with cash. use a fake name, address and vehicle plate number for the register. they never check.
don’t draw attention to yourself. i hit the stroll about 3 am one night this summer and saw a howdy doody white guy driving a z convertible. at that time of the night, there are only two reasons for a guy like that to be in the hood, and both are illegal. blend in as much as possible.
make sure all the lights on your vehicle are in working order. don’t drive down the street at 3 mph holding up traffic while you search for sw’s. don’t make crazy assed u-turns in an effort to beat your fellow mongers to the pick-up. come to a full stop at all stop signs. don’t come to a full stop in the middle of the road to pick up a girl with a long line of cars behind you. pull over for the pickup. in other words, follow all the rules of the road. don’t circle around endlessly. one of the nosy neighbors will notice you and inform le. don’t hit on civies and for god’s sake, leave the **** girls alone. don’t give le an excuse to pull you over.
the “pickup” is the single most dangerous aspect of our hobby. it is then when we are most exposed. during the pickup, your monger radar should be going full blast. be aware of everything around you. watch for cars coming from every direction. assume every other vehicle contains ule. keep an eye open for anyone approaching the driver side door. the last thing you want is some brother opening your door and rolling you right there. once she’s in the car, move off quickly.
never pick up a girl you have not seen before. no matter how hot she is, avoid her until you have seen her a couple of times, or until you have seen her picked up by another monger with no resulting sound and light show.
never discuss business through the open window of your car. decoy fle will never get into your vehicle. if she wants to talk business through the window, she is one of three things, undercover le, a sw setting you up for a rip-off, or a rookie sw. do you like those odds?
when you do pick up a sw for the first time, engage in casual chit chat until you have driven some distance from the pickup spot and are sure you are not being followed. make her initiate the transaction, especially the first mention of exchanging money for sex.
be alert on the drop-off as well. monger radar on full blast. be aware of your surroundings. the longer you sit there, the more at risk you are.
go to your spot, not hers. if she refuses, drop her off. you never know what will be waiting for you at her spot. one of our fellow mongers got ripped off recently at the sw’s home. don’t put yourself in a position of weakness. home court advantage is critical to your safety.
don’t overpay. one jack for bj, two jacks for fs. i never pay more than 3 jacks for anal, usually 2.5. tipping optional. if the girl is nice to you, be nice to her, but don’t go crazy with the tips. a bj from a sw is not worth 4 jacks. fs is not worth 5 jacks. if you are firm, more often than not they will settle.
never give them any money until you arrive at your destination. then, if they insist, give them the base fee only. hold back on the tip.
you are much better off lowballing on initial dates, then raising your tip on subsequent dates if they are worth it. you’ll get more out of them that way, rather than overpaying early on and then trying to average them down.
practice safe sex. if she is doing it bareback with you, she is doing it with everybody. i like bbbj’s as much as anybody. as a result, i have caught ngu three times in my years of mongering. it could have been much worse. cover your buddy for everything, but especially vaginal and anal sex. if you don’t carry condoms around, all the motels sell them.
guys, there are three girls on the wilkens stroll who are very popular. two are hiv+, the third has hep c. i know this for a fact. two of the girls told me themselves. i learned about the third from her mom. i’m sure these three are not the only ones out there with an std. don’t play russian roulette. you will lose.
get yourself checked up often. many of the nasties we expose ourselves to can be asymptomatic. i go to the caroline street free clinic every three months. takes about 1.5 hours to get tested. i usually get a full battery of tests. if you test positive for any of the routine stuff, meds are free. staff is non-judgmental. i always tell them what i do up front so they know what to look for. you can use a fake name and id info if you wish. just make sure to remember to use the same fake id when you return for results. contact info is as follows:
eastern health district
620 n. caroline street
baltimore, md 21205
phone: (410) 396-9410
just in case you run out of luck and get pulled over, don’t panic. have a simple story line ready and stick to it no matter what. keep your hands on the top of the steering wheel where le can see them. don’t move unless you tell le first what you are going to do. that includes reaching into the glove compartment for your registration.
admit nothing, no matter what le says to you. be extra polite, this is not the time to be a wiseass. answer their questions in a calm voice. do not be confrontational. follow the officer’s instructions. do whatever they ask. but remember, stick to your story. the last time i got stopped, the officer told me he knew i was lying about what i was doing. i looked him right in the eye and politely said, “i’m sorry you feel that way officer, but i am telling you the truth.” he let me go. now if he were a prick, he might still have arrested me, but i gave him no reason to lose his temper.
i’ve been stopped three times with sw’s in my car. on one occasion, the girl was dirty. i’m sure my being polite and cooperative with the officer had something to do with my being let go while she was arrested. remember, we are a nuisance to le. they have bigger fish to fry.
if you do get arrested, stick to your story and admit to nothing. 90% of the time, you will be let go with no charges being filed. you will spend 24 hours in central booking and have some explaining to do to your so, but no charge, no record. if you get caught in a sting however, all bets are off.
never, ever, ever, ever, ever, under any circumstances, take a sw to cop. no matter how much she begs, just say no. she’ll tell you it will just take a few seconds. she’ll tell you the sex will be better. she may even offer you extras like anal. just say no. the results can be catastrophic to you, and impact your life until the day you die. if vice sees the girl get out of your car, cop, then hop back in your vehicle, you are dead. they will pull your ass over and arrest you. you will now be facing a felony drug charge instead of a soliciting misdemeanor. think the girl will vouch for you? good luck dickhead.
avoid emotional involvement. always remember that all we are to these girls is a source of money, food, cigs, and occasionally a clean, warm place to sleep. nothing wrong with having an occasional beer or bite to eat, put keep your relationship in perspective. it’s all about the drugs. treat the girls nicely, but keep a firewall between your life and hers. don't get involved, you will regret it.
mongering is like any hobby. there is a skill set that must be mastered. this is not a game for amateurs. the risk is high. the consequences of failure can be devastating. some of you newbies seem to feel we seniors do nothing but foster an evil culture on this board. the reality is that most seniors have successfully practiced this hobby for a long time. there is much you can learn from them that will help you enjoy this hobby in a safe and productive manner. you will find they are willing to help, as long as you show that you have done some homework. the other day, i reread all the 2005 posts on the baltimore board. it took me about three hours. searching on specific topics takes just a few seconds. are a few hours too much time to spend preparing for a hobby that has such downside risk? are the seniors asking too much of the newbies to make this investment before asking questions whose answers can usually be found in seconds by doing a search?
hope the above post helps you newbies be safe and enjoy the world’s oldest hobby. i’m sure my fellow seniors will chime in with some of their experiences. read, learn, be safe.
hope 2006 is a year to remember for all of us.
safe hunting to all.
muff scout
after this was posted, one of our seniors posted a general warning about ever mongering near schools. he was correct. this is a big no no. don't ever do it. the velociraptor moms with cell phones will report your ass pronto.