Just thought I would try to start a new Sugar Baby Thread. Hope I'm not violating any forum rules.
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Just thought I would try to start a new Sugar Baby Thread. Hope I'm not violating any forum rules.
About 2 months ago I decided to try the premium membership on SA to test the waters with Roanoke sugar babies. I kept it for 2 months, and hit so many dead ends it was ridiculous. Overall, for me, was a waste of money. It seems that 95% of these girls think guys will pay them 2 K a month to chat via text and take them on shopping sprees. To me that's just nuts. Maybe I had the wrong idea, but geez. I think there's a huge disparity in what guys are looking for on that site and what the ladies are looking for.
Thank you sandpiper for starting the thread.
It's needed since many have had to abandon the CL and BP scene since they are so heavily monitored now.
I have been on SA for a number of months on and off. $80 a month for membership is pretty stiff considering the lousy results.
Rule number 1. If the girl does not have a full body pic on her profile. She is FAT. I have yet to find anyone who invalidates this basic rule. If the profile says "average" or "curvy" and face shot only, they are FAT.
Rule number 2. If they have modified their appearance with dog ears or other snapchat stupidity, I automatically block. Damn fools. What in the f. K is the point.
Rule number 3. If they are over 25, the pictures are probably 5 years old. If they are over 35 the pictures are 10 years old. False advertising to say the least.
Just an example, I met a 30 yo in 2015 , and she looked ok, maybe a 5 or 6. Lost track of her and managed to meet up again in 2017. She was not only 20 lbs heavier but had hit the wall and dropped to a 2. Yikes.
I think SA is ok if you can bag a college babe, but at my age (60) I'm past that. I'd like a nice MILF but they are rare.
SDforMe site was good 3-4 years ago but now is full of scammers and fakes. The owners of the site generate fake messages to get you to pay in. Very few ladies from our area use it.
Update as of 2018, SA raised their price for monthly membership to $90. I'm done with that; too many fakes and scams to spend that kind of money. I even wrote to them and complained, like that would do any good. Greedy bastards.
[QUOTE=RockHiker76;3643330]About 2 months ago I decided to try the premium membership on SA to test the waters with Roanoke sugar babies. I kept it for 2 months, and hit so many dead ends it was ridiculous. Overall, for me, was a waste of money. It seems that 95% of these girls think guys will pay them 2 K a month to chat via text and take them on shopping sprees. To me that's just nuts. Maybe I had the wrong idea, but geez. I think there's a huge disparity in what guys are looking for on that site and what the ladies are looking for.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/8682382d-17e5-703b-7ac9-41059f4d463e[/URL]
500 for 2 hr only. No 1 hr, anyone had her?
I've been chatting with her for about a week. Pictures look great. Has anyone else been in contact or had a meeting. Willing to trade information if anyone is interested. PM me.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/81878878-7eb8-4c11-a6ad-8da072a47dc4[/URL]
Hi all,
I've been very lucky to have a SB so I don't have to deal with all the BS at AMPs and STG. I'm wondering, how much do you all typically provide for an allowance? She is 22, cute, great T&A, and great personality.
[QUOTE=JohnKim;3886468]Hi all,
I've been very lucky to have a SB so I don't have to deal with all the BS at AMPs and STG. I'm wondering, how much do you all typically provide for an allowance? She is 22, cute, great T&A, and great personality.[/QUOTE]I usually pay per visit. I go around $300/ visit. Usually that gets me multiple hours and keeps her happy and working good for her money. Some require more. I guess the key lies in "if she's happy, then you're happy". Do you mind sharing your sugar baby? Send me a link if possible.
[QUOTE=JohnKim;3886468]Hi all,
I've been very lucky to have a SB so I don't have to deal with all the BS at AMPs and STG. I'm wondering, how much do you all typically provide for an allowance? She is 22, cute, great T&A, and great personality.[/QUOTE]Well if you are lucky to have an sb as you say, then how much have you been giving her? Allowances vary from sb to sb, nd depending on the sd. I've heard stories from very high end, top dollar sb's to those who hang out and play for next to nothing. Many factors go into the mix.
I haven't got the time or want to spend the cash to join SA. Also I can't risk public M&Gs or finding a psycho that develops a fatal attraction.
I've seen some guys that claim to have a unreal hit rates getting 18-25 year old coeds, babydolls to the FC with little wasted time, resources & minimum BS.
Others say it's a circle jerk, that the site is clogged with princesses with GPS & visions of huge allowances, luxury travel & shopping sprees, with little to none giving up the goods.
Like everything in the escort, SB game YMMV.
How I've been successful in a more none traditional way, is to take really gorgeous girls, waitresses, to strippers, to escorts, all 20-26, about half coeds and develope relationships that are more FWB than a real relationship or cash to play (I mean a set menu & donation time table).
In the last three years I've had six, currently have three active & one I could still see but got sick of her stripper / vampire internal time clock. I'd be lucky to be screwing before 2 am!
My ATF was a $350 an hour escort, super low volume, full time college student, while also waitressing three to four night a week. Even with that schedule & a live in BF (who had no idea she had a secret life) she would come see me in my hotel suite for 3-8 hours. I was her bridge out of escorting into a relationship. Gorgeous girl & super intelligent & sweet.
She stopped accepting pay to play after about the forth visit, stopped paying attention to the time from the beginning. I'd help her now and then when she really needed it. Books, help with rent or a car payment. I bet if I did the math I probably paid her about $20 an hour. All the sex I wanted and after seven months, taught her to speak Greek which became her favorite language!
Lasted two & a half years.
All six girls are / were at least 8 in looks, personalities & skills (some I had to teach some things to, but no complaints here!
My long term SB / ATF was a 10/10/10 across the board. Got engaged and still saw her for 8 months after. She finally broke it off after a couple of close calls with him questioning some stuff. Really miss her big time. Best sex of my life & a total sweetheart. Like a lot of BF, he wasn't pushing her right buttons. I was more than happy to! Dumb bastard, it was like he had a Ferrari in the garage but rode a moped to school instead.
The stats:
Three escorts. Transitioned out of pay per time. Only one still escorted after we got an arrangement going, which I have no problem with. One was a first time STG poster, saw one jerk than me. Needed short term help, now back to civilian life, seeing her weekly.
Two strippers. A buddy gave me one girls number. She was very hesitant to see me outcall the first time, petrified I was 5-0. Wow, when she showed up and I grabbed her kitty & perfect little bubble butt it was game on. I hope to travel to the Greek Isles with her next week. She went nuts last time I saw her with two in the pink, one in the stink. I can’t wait!
I don't like strip joints anymore. I'll go in during the afternoon now & then for a beer. I sit at the bar and if a extremely attractive spinner approaches me, we will sit at a table & I'll chat her up & buy her a drink. She will ask to do a dance and I'll tell her,
"don't take this the wrong way your absolutely gorgeous and exactly my type, girl, you should need a permit for that ass.
I'd love to have you dance for me but I think it's criminal that you have to pay them to work here and they have the balls to take part of what I give you! Because of that I only see girls outside of the club. That way they get it all!
Works more often than not. If not I'm out the cost of one drink, not a night of drinks and dances. They have time to talk in the afternoon before it gets busy.
So I guess my definition of a SB is someone I get to know on a deeper level that I spend between three hours to an overnight with for very little $ (saw my girl that tried escorting & hated it last week from 7 pm-6 am. Cash, gifts, dinner, booze & hotel suite cost me a whopping $280! Five pops=$56 per - 11 hours = $36 per hour.)
All my SB also text me a lot which I enjoy. Been texting two of my three current ones tonight. Love sexting with them, pics, videos or just chatting. Added bonus to being their Daddy, all for a goose egg.
Viewing messages without premium.
I'm a programmer, and I spend a good portion of my time doing web development. I've noted that SA has been rewriting portions of their site from a traditional "click link, wait for server return the new page" style to a "single-page application" approach. Turns out that due to some rather silly programming choices on their part, it's actually possible to view the text content of messages even if you don't have premium time enabled.
It involves opening up your browser's "development tools" window so you can inspect the contents of the page and the data being requested, and should work in either Chrome or Firefox.
Log in to SA and go to your inbox. Right-click anywhere on the page and choose "Inspect Element". The browser's dev tools should either pop up as a separate window, or as part of the main window. Click on the "network" tab in the dev tools. Then, back in the SA inbox screen, click on a conversation.
If you go back to the "network" tab, you should see a list of all the data requests the SA page asked for from the server. One of them should look like "/ inbox? Page=1&limit=25". Click on that one. It'll show a bunch of technical details of some of the message headers.
Now, look for a tab called "Response". If you click on that, you should see a tree with sections like "status", "message", "conversation", and "metadata". Expand "conversation" "messages" "data". You should see some numbered entries, 0 and up. Those represent each of the messages in the conversation, from both of you. (Side note: the "metadata" object has a whole bunch of info that they know about your own account. Some of it is info you entered yourself, like profile info. There's also things like "payments_total", which appears to be how much you've actually ever paid SA, unread message count, whether you're in the EU, and even fields labeled "has_under_age_punishment" and "has_unacknowledged_punishment". Very interesting.).
Each message entry has a field called "body", which is the text that's shown in your inbox. If you've got premium active, it's the actual message text. If not, it's "Upgrade to read".
Here's where they did something silly. They send back the text that should be shown, but *they also send back the original text too*. So, even if the "body" field says "Upgrade to read", the "original_body" field shows the actual no-kidding message that was sent. You can inspect each of the messages that was received, and effectively read the conversation.
It's not a substitute for reading messages in the inbox as usual, but it might be helpful for anyone who gets a message when they don't have premium active and wants to peek at it without having to immediately shell out the cash to read it.
As a programmer, I can tell that there's actually a _ton_ of useful information being returned whenever you view a profile page or inbox page. It would be possible for someone to write a browser extension that either extracted some of that info from a page, or re-requested that data from the server, and did something useful with it (up to and including modifying an inbox to show all the messages without needing premium enabled). Sadly, I don't have time to work on anything like that myself. I've got a lot of other things on my plate.
Hope that helps!
Dear fellow Sugar and Splenda Daddy's.
I was recently banned by Seeking Arrangements. Read the snapshot for details. To be fair, I largely ask for dinner dates or meet and greets. If I'm soliciting I usually hint around. However, this one time I specifically asked for a one night stand. To my surprise the girl agreed to have sex for $200. She gave me her phone number and we made arrangements to meet this Saturday. I went to sign back on to my seeking Arrangements account and I got a notice that I was banned. The girl that I was talking to received the same notice, she was also banned. I'm not sure if they are checking every email, or if they have software looking for keywords. Stick to the code words and play it safe, my mistake is your gain.
[QUOTE=SandPiper540;4141526]Dear fellow Sugar and Splenda Daddy's.
I was recently banned by Seeking Arrangements. Read the snapshot for details. To be fair, I largely ask for dinner dates or meet and greets. If I'm soliciting I usually hint around. However, this one time I specifically asked for a one night stand. To my surprise the girl agreed to have sex for $200. She gave me her phone number and we made arrangements to meet this Saturday. I went to sign back on to my seeking Arrangements account and I got a notice that I was banned. The girl that I was talking to received the same notice, she was also banned. I'm not sure if they are checking every email, or if they have software looking for keywords. Stick to the code words and play it safe, my mistake is your gain.[/QUOTE]It can vary by the length of your membership, from what I have seen, newer accounts seem to get watched and flagged more. They do seem to have software / program that scans for certain language / words that imply or refer to P4 P activities. I'd say that she may have reported you but not if she was banned also. I have had a profile for over a year, prior to the new FOSTA law, and haven't had any issues yet. It helps to get them off the site to text, e-mail, kik, snapchat or whatever before discussing details and many of the SB's seem to know this. Many that want your contact info real quick tend to be those that are escorts or P4 P gal to avoid banning.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/cfb0b8f0-4a0c-4d54-9f79-42ac392f65a1[/URL]
This is really a guy. Profile pic is of Veronica Rose.
[URL]https://picgra.com/user/veeeee___/243418348[/URL]
He's looking for straight guys to blow.
Just had a thought that I thought would be interesting. Older members, like myself, will shake there head & say "yup" & younger guys may be surprised that this went on openly in the 60's & 70's. I'll speak to the 70's (72'-76') because I remember it like it was yesterday.
My high school years were spent in the burbs of Boston in a Norman Rockwellian town of about 15,000 residents. 25 minute drive to Boston, 15 minutes to Providence, RI & 45 minutes to the Cape (Cape Cod).
I only mention it because I don't know if this went on everywhere.
Back then, very few high school students had cars of their own. I'd guess maybe 5% of the boys & 2% of the girls. Keep in mind the age for a license was 16 1/2 then so really only older sophomores-seniors had licenses. Very few parents gave their kids cars back then. So a few did and others worked to buy a shitbox.
I don't know if the hormones in food now but the girls didn't look anything like the HS girls of today. Not being a perv, just stating a fact.
There was a socially acceptable variation on sugar dating back then, same dynamic as today, older guys with play money, younger girls with wants.
The really attractive, developed girls in my class, starting as early as 8th or 9th grade, often were dating guys in there late teens to early 20's. Those girls also would be getting laid, probably taught by there older boyfriends.
Now a days 16 will get ya 20. That's why if I even suspect someone is underage I walk, or ask for an I'd.
Wondering if others experienced this where they grew up?
I went to a high school reunion a couple of years ago. No less than three of these type of girls that I was dying to get with in high school, but had me firmly in the friend zone, asked me why we didn't date in high school. I told them because I didn't have a car or money like the 20 something year olds you dated (banged) back then!