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just wondering if anyone has any info on the sw action these days? division near alger, burton, and wealthy used to be good, along with the street just to the west of division south of the stadium. also, as i have been ripped in gr several times, can anyone suggest a nice white sw? i like the basic gfe
Been rumors of heavy sting activity.
May be rumors but SW are not around.
Did some cruising Last Friday, Only saw one black SW. She was 145# Got a BJ for $10
Visited GR last weekend - arrived Thursday night around 8, found a familiar SW on the corner of Division and Pleasant. In her late 30's, she gives a very good GFE, lots of fun. I always pick up this girl when I find her. During occasional cruising on Friday, I didn't see any SW's. On Saturday, found a young (about 18 or 19) SW mid-afternoon in Burton Heights area, she was cute and gave a good bj, but it was all business. She gave me her cell phone number and her rates for future dates. Didn't cruise on Sunday. On Monday morning, I got up early to leave town, and found there were several SW's, about 4 in the Burton Heights area, and two more down by Wealthy. Some looked tempting, but while I was cruising around "shopping", the street scene dried up and by 6 a.m. they were all gone. So it seems that early summer mornings are good for SW action on Division?
Visited last year. No escort services were available late evening. Went to adult book store, video arcade had mostly gay videos, it was a dump, not worth a stop.
Hi, I'm going to be in Grand Rapids on June 21st. Anything new on SW? Also where is the Burton heights area mentioned in other posts? Thanks
Burton Heights is on Division for about three blocks south of Burton. Find the intersection of Division and Burton (south central GR). SW's are usually seen along Division in this area, either side of Burton, but more commonly on the side streets and in the parking area behind the stores along Division one block south of Burton on the west side of Division. Sometimes it's hot, sometimes not. It seems to be feast or famine, depending on police activity. Undercover cops are common, and sting activities have been reported - there were news reports that two off-duty cops were caught in a sting here!
Division Street update: It looks like the law is laying off the SW's for now - maybe due to the bad press they got when a sting operation busted two of their own. The girls are comming back out, and the cops seem to be ignoring them, although I did see them jack up a guy who appeared to be pimping his girl. Based on an earlier discovery that there are girls out in the early morning hours (see earlier post), I tried it on a Friday morning. First cruise down Division wasn't productive, but on second drive through I saw two girls on Pleasant. Went around the block, and they were in a car by then, but flagged me down. One jumped out, did the usual cop check, and got in my car. Nice looking, slim white gal, about 25-30, dressed nice and looked clean and healthy. She confirmed she was on the morning "shift", starting at 5 a.m. Her girlfriend, an attractive tall black girl, was also working. After a bj, she gave me her phone number and address, and I did call her the next day and had another short date with her. Good service, friendly, but she has kids and couldn't stay away from home very long. While in town, I also picked up a young SW in Burton Heights, and that turned out to be a mistake. She kept asking for more money, giving me all the hard luck stories. She was technically quite good at giving a bj, but her attitude was a turnoff, and she didn't appear to be in the best of health.
Basically I found that there are SW's out almost any time of day, but the best time for selection and quality seems to be early morning. There are some attractive SW's in the evening, but they get picked up fast.
Now that I have phone numbers of two good SW's, I may lay off trying to pick anyone up. These girls prefer regular customers - it's much safer than street action. But then, ya always have to wonder if the grass is greener on the other side? Stay tuned, I'll keep ya posted.
LE has come up with new gestapo tactics. A major sting south of Burton on Division to 28th st. came up with 78 arrests in three days Sept 14th. This pushed the action up on Division between Franklin and Wealthy. LE didn't stop, picked on any woman walking alone as a "suspect". Girls went to the side streets of Pleasant, Buckley, Logan and Sheldon E. of Division and hung out there from 5am to 7am, trying to blend in with the bus riding crowd. Clients learned to cruise the backsteets and to pick up the girls fast.
Now LE has specific patrol cars crusing a 20 block area between Division, Wealthy, Jefferson, and Franklin. Their job is to literally tailgate any "out of place" vehicle (not a JUNKER) going through the sidestreets and bust them for ANY traffic infraction (failure to signal, license plate tabs, etc.) or pull them over and interrogate them as to their purpose in the neighborhood. Of course, the scare lecture comes into play here! This brings a whole new dimension to the term "pigtail"... LE is out in droves now in this area between 5am and 7 am.
What's left of the girls are still struggling to make a go of it. They've started to walk in tandem with their boyfriends, pimps? (almost always black). He'll hang back about 6 ft while the girl, briefly struts her stuff on Division. LE shows, black dude suddenly walks next to her boy-girl friend style.
So things have gotten much more complex. Looks like there are some quality providers out there but hooking up is very difficult.
It is rumored that the GRPD won a $1,000,000 grant from the state to crack down on prostitution in Grand Rapids. This rumor comes from one the SWs, so it may not be the most reliable source. Apparently, they have sufficient funds to support all kinds of new operations. I have been watching carefully over the past three months and this is what I have seen:
1. Sting
When: August Time: 11 PM - 2 AM
Where: Andre Street & Kirtland; behind the Executive
Massage located on Division (Burton Heights)
Operation: Three white girls, blonde, redhead, brunnette
parading in the parking lot on a Sunday night.
Outcome: Van was seen at 2 AM collecting johns.
2. Sting (aledged)
When: August (maybe ongoing) Time: 5-12 PM
Where: Franklin & Division to Sycamore & Division
Operation: SWs under loose supervision of female officer
coaxing johns to break the law.
SWs description: 1- white, blonde, Shoulder-
length; 1- white, black hair.
In August, I took a survey of active, or apparently active, SWs on Division. I checked at various times, including early morning, afternoon, and late evening. I counted 6 white SWs and 11 black SWs, some may have been TVs. I monitored LE activity. I counted 5 cars in the area and two undercover cars, plus one van. At least 2 cars are moving on Division at all times so I suspect the others are monitoring activities. If you see a SW, chances are she has already been spotted.
The pimp situation is very nasty. I gave one girl a ride home when I saw her crying and shaking. Apparently, she has a drug problem (don't they all). Four black guys, alledgedly kidnapped her and took her to the motel on Division and Alger. She was drugged and used for four days around Labor day. If you see a tall blonde, about 5'9" tall, with long blonde hair and a medium build, get her the hell out of there. She said her name was "Casandra." I dropped her off near Broadway and 11th. Granted she has a drug problem but nobody deserves what she got.
Anyway, the bottom line is don't trust even the SWs you know. They may be working for the police. As for that knock-out babe you saw strolling Division, forget it. Her panties are blue!
Found 2 SWs on Division from Alger-Wealthy.
Picked up the better looking of the 2. Short blonde, approx 30-40yrs old.
Offered a BJ for 25, I gave her 20. Halfway through, she offered Fs for another 10 bucks.
Cha-ching. Wrapped up the meat and went to work.
She offered her number, but I declined. Thinking back on it, I should of gotten it!
She was very nice, said her name was Robyn. I think she enjoyed the FS as much as I did!
I didn't see any LE. I did notice a few random cars running along the sidestreets of Division, parked with their parking lights on.
Pick the chicks up fast and get outta there. If they are crunching down on the SW activity, it can't last long.
"Orko"
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The Magician at Work
What time did you find Robyn?
Was it on Division?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by damarushi
[i]What time did you find Robyn?
Was it on Division? [/i][/QUOTE]
Was around 5am Just south of wealthy, on Division. I seen her, made a loop around the block and picked her up.
"Orko"
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The Magician at Work
What color hair did Mindy have? I may have seen her before. I tried to pick her up once, but was too slow getting around the block!
"Orko"
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The Magician at Work