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I see their rally are getting stronger and bigger. Who are these women? What do they want from us? Why do they portray us as the, "bad guy". Some of us are good people. I think the most dangerous ones are child molesters, and rapists. What do they think of women who work independently. What if their driver or photographer turns out to be a female. What do they think? I think it's only that 1% that fill in the gap. Those are the weak minded ones. I think it all starts from home. Don't blame us guys. We are actually doing them good.
Now supposedly there is anywhere from 8,000-10,000 underage sex trafficking victims in SD. I find this hard to believe since there is 30 girls on BP at any one time. My only guess is that these girls travel across the country. Personally I prefer SW's since they are cheaper and you are not forced to pay a min escort price. The other reason is that if they are pimped they still have a choice to quit or not. There is nothing to stop a SW from flagging down a cop and turning in the trafficker. It's not easy, but they still have that option.
[URL]https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/249857.pdf[/URL]
[QUOTE=Hargow20;3370797]Now supposedly there is anywhere from 8,000-10,000 underage sex trafficking victims in SD. I find this hard to believe since there is 30 girls on BP at any one time. My only guess is that these girls travel across the country. Personally I prefer SW's since they are cheaper and you are not forced to pay a min escort price. The other reason is that if they are pimped they still have a choice to quit or not. There is nothing to stop a SW from flagging down a cop and turning in the trafficker. It's not easy, but they still have that option.
[URL]https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/249857.pdf[/URL][/QUOTE]I'd find it hard to believe that there's 8,000-10,000 girls in the whole region. Meaning the whole bottom part of this state. LA, IE, OC and SD. I think this might be the fake news that everybody's been talking about in recent months. Moe.
[QUOTE=MemoeNasty;3377312]I'd find it hard to believe that there's 8,000-10,000 girls in the whole region. Meaning the whole bottom part of this state. LA, IE, OC and SD. I think this might be the fake news that everybody's been talking about in recent months. Moe.[/QUOTE]I have a young child who is in a car seat and we have been to a car seat event where trained technicians install the seat for you so you don't fuck it up. They keep statistics for the seats that were installed incorrectly before the event that they are able to fix, and save the life of your child. After a 2 hour wait, they did a 30 point test on my car seat and fixed several things for me. The car seat is not noticeably different right now than it was before. But they count it as saving my kid's life.
Here's the deal. If they do 300 seats and 290 were pretty good when they rolled in, their success rate is 3% and nobody would ever fund that. If they make up a bunch of bullshit and their "success" rate is 97%, there are grants and donations and they are able to feel they have a purpose.
I've been fucking CL / BP girls in this town for 15 years. I have never seen a "human trafficking" victim. That's not to say that there aren't any. I'm sure there have been a few. But they are rare. But who would award a grant to fix that? It's much more lucrative if you make up a bunch of nonsense numbers. Did you read the post recently about the woman who was being stalked in Ikea by sex traffickers? Huge social media following. Total bullshit. The woman is looney tunes. But it really turns out the "save America" crowd, hardcore.
[QUOTE=HeyTim;3378642]I have a young child who is in a car seat and we have been to a car seat event where trained technicians install the seat for you so you don't fuck it up. They keep statistics for the seats that were installed incorrectly before the event that they are able to fix, and save the life of your child. After a 2 hour wait, they did a 30 point test on my car seat and fixed several things for me. The car seat is not noticeably different right now than it was before. But they count it as saving my kid's life.
Here's the deal. If they do 300 seats and 290 were pretty good when they rolled in, their success rate is 3% and nobody would ever fund that. If they make up a bunch of bullshit and their "success" rate is 97%, there are grants and donations and they are able to feel they have a purpose.
I've been fucking CL / BP girls in this town for 15 years. I have never seen a "human trafficking" victim. That's not to say that there aren't any. I'm sure there have been a few. But they are rare. But who would award a grant to fix that? It's much more lucrative if you make up a bunch of nonsense numbers. Did you read the post recently about the woman who was being stalked in Ikea by sex traffickers? Huge social media following. Total bullshit. The woman is looney tunes. But it really turns out the "save America" crowd, hardcore.[/QUOTE]If you you've been on backpage you've see sex trafficking victims. Well I should say representation of sex trafficking victims. The Asian escorts with the posts with the fake pictures. The majority of those are sex traffic girls. I love the am pms myself I stopped going because a good chunk of those Asian girls can be defined as sex traffic as well. That's why if they ever get raided those girls disappear mainly deported because they are here illegally. Chances are if your a regular at different am pms then at some point you've gotten a tug from a girl forced to do it by her enployers. On the other hand they do have girls who do it without being forced the reason I stopped is because youll never know which one your getting. In fact there was just a post in backpage about a guy who went to an Asian escort house with a guy sitting in the main room. While I don't believe the number is as high as the first post. They are still here.
[QUOTE=David032;3379721]If you you've been on backpage you've see sex trafficking victims. Well I should say representation of sex trafficking victims. The Asian escorts with the posts with the fake pictures. The majority of those are sex traffic girls. I love the am pms myself I stopped going because a good chunk of those Asian girls can be defined as sex traffic as well. That's why if they ever get raided those girls disappear mainly deported because they are here illegally. Chances are if your a regular at different am pms then at some point you've gotten a tug from a girl forced to do it by her enployers. On the other hand they do have girls who do it without being forced the reason I stopped is because youll never know which one your getting. In fact there was just a post in backpage about a guy who went to an Asian escort house with a guy sitting in the main room. While I don't believe the number is as high as the first post. They are still here.[/QUOTE]Then there was my long-time favorite K-girl at Won's. Commuting from OC in her brand new Lexis while I was driving a 10 year old pickup. Can't generalize too much. I do think the C-girls are more likely to be traffic victims just based on the high turnover rate. Seems like the K-girls were (are?) more stable.
[QUOTE=Hargow20;3370797]Now supposedly there is anywhere from 8,000-10,000 underage sex trafficking victims in SD. I find this hard to believe since there is 30 girls on BP at any one time. My only guess is that these girls travel across the country. Personally I prefer SW's since they are cheaper and you are not forced to pay a min escort price. The other reason is that if they are pimped they still have a choice to quit or not. There is nothing to stop a SW from flagging down a cop and turning in the trafficker. It's not easy, but they still have that option.
[URL]https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/249857.pdf[/URL][/QUOTE]I want to thank you guys for raising this. I think that some of us have been tip toeing or in denial about this, classifying myself in the latter. I'm not going to single out services or AMPs, but all you have to do is talk to a girl to see if she is a victim. If she is on her back 6 or 7 days a week at 10 to 12 hours at a time, chances are that she's a victim. If she is roommates with another girl you know and they both commute from LA, they're probably victims. Talk to them about their personal lives. Although most girls won't give you details, they'll talk about their general interests. If they don't, be suspicious. I will not be considering these services moving forward.
My guess is that LE is inflating the number to make themselves for PR and to make themselves look good. The other thing to remember is that arresting working girls is fairly low risk. The girls do not usually carry guns or other weapons. Now the gang member do pose a risk, but it's hard say. These human trafficking task forces are funded by federal grants. A lot of funds go to local law enforcement agencies. The video cameras on Roosevelt st in NC was funded by a homeland security grant to help curb prostitution (https://www.bja.gov/ProgramDetails.aspx?Program_ID=51 ). Now I am opposed and appalled as most of our by human trafficking. But I don't see why homeland security is getting involved.
Back when there was still a lot of SW's on the streets the cops would come up with these wild number about how they made these arrests. There was one story about how LE made arrested 30 girls for warrant violations. It was a bogus number because there was 10 girls at the most working the streets at that time.
[QUOTE=MemoeNasty;3377312]I'd find it hard to believe that there's 8,000-10,000 girls in the whole region. Meaning the whole bottom part of this state. LA, IE, OC and SD. I think this might be the fake news that everybody's been talking about in recent months. Moe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hargow20;3370797]Now supposedly there is anywhere from 8,000-10,000 underage sex trafficking victims in SD. I find this hard to believe since there is 30 girls on BP at any one time. My only guess is that these girls travel across the country. Personally I prefer SW's since they are cheaper and you are not forced to pay a min escort price. The other reason is that if they are pimped they still have a choice to quit or not. There is nothing to stop a SW from flagging down a cop and turning in the trafficker. It's not easy, but they still have that option.
[URL]https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/249857.pdf[/URL][/QUOTE]As our current CnC says "Fake News".
[QUOTE=David032;3379721]If you you've been on backpage you've see sex trafficking victims. Well I should say representation of sex trafficking victims. The Asian escorts with the posts with the fake pictures. The majority of those are sex traffic girls. I love the am pms myself I stopped going because a good chunk of those Asian girls can be defined as sex traffic as well. That's why if they ever get raided those girls disappear mainly deported because they are here illegally. Chances are if your a regular at different am pms then at some point you've gotten a tug from a girl forced to do it by her enployers. On the other hand they do have girls who do it without being forced the reason I stopped is because youll never know which one your getting. In fact there was just a post in backpage about a guy who went to an Asian escort house with a guy sitting in the main room. While I don't believe the number is as high as the first post. They are still here.[/QUOTE]I read that post too and thought to myself WTF. I don't care if I'm going to see my favorite A rated porn star. If I get there and there's a dude waiting in the living room downstairs, I'm out of there. That's weird and have never read or experienced anything like that. As for all this talk about trafficking, I thought the AMP's in the area were more of a money laundering scheme than trafficking organizations. I could be wrong but was under the impression a lot of these girls make good money and beats the alternative, which is working at Foxcon back in China assembling our iPhones. Plus, I never got the impression from a BP girl or AMP girl that they were on their backs 6-7 hours a day. Again, I could be wrong. Moe.
I just want to add that from what I have seen. Many girls make great (not just good) money from this line of work. Many of them were waiting tables at restaurants, bagging groceries at supermarkets and polishing nails from nail salons before that. Their gfs told them about this line of work so they switched.
[QUOTE=MemoeNasty;3382032]I read that post too and thought to myself WTF. I don't care if I'm going to see my favorite A rated porn star. If I get there and there's a dude waiting in the living room downstairs, I'm out of there. That's weird and have never read or experienced anything like that. As for all this talk about trafficking, I thought the AMP's in the area were more of a money laundering scheme than trafficking organizations. I could be wrong but was under the impression a lot of these girls make good money and beats the alternative, which is working at Foxcon back in China assembling our iPhones. Plus, I never got the impression from a BP girl or AMP girl that they were on their backs 6-7 hours a day. Again, I could be wrong. Moe.[/QUOTE]As the title says it's all about context the on there back for 6 7 hours is the extreme end of sex trafficking. Like someone else pointed out there are a quite a few girls who do it to make a ton of extra money. Yes some of them are money laundrying they are already making money off the massage why not extra.
But on the other hand there are girls who are brought over here with purpose to work at the massage places. They come on tourist visas some on work visas mainly Korean and Chinese girls then company that brought them over takes the passport makes them work and after three months sends the girl back. She comes over to do massages and is told she has to make x money a week if she wants to stay in country especially the ones on work visas. Most arent because jts cheaper and doesn't leave a paper trail. So now she realizes that its impossible to make x amount of money if she just does massages. So they tell her how to make enough ie happy endings things like that. As said earlier most of us see the extreme end of sex trafficking the 6 to 7 hours laying on there back guy after guy. What we don't see or what we don't want to see is the subtle side. That is the grey area which the AMP fall under.
All that being said I have frequented AMP in the best. But I stopped after I got the human trafficking class that broke it down and showed you signs to look for. For me while I know there are some legit girls who do do it. But I'll never know the truth because the shops are subtle about it. Now I frequent the independent massage girls a little more expensive but honestly worth it cause they do tend to give better massages. There was an Asian lady yam yam on backpage best nuru massage I have had in the states. I haven't seen her post in awhile but if she does try her out never even tried for more than happy ending with a nuru. Which if you've had a real Japanese nuru happy ending you know why.
Not sure if this goes here or under General Reports.
Article = [URL]http://timesofsandiego.com/crime/2017/05/30/big-bad-john-police-sting-nets-13-sex-buyers/?google_editors_picks=true[/URL].
Recent LEO bust sweep hit last week. Reports of 13 hobbyist cuffed. Articles don't say location but reasearch shows half those busts were in NC.
They all got lured to the Marina Best Western by the in and out. Then came the clampdown.
Stay safe!
[QUOTE=IvyLeaf;3410158]Not sure if this goes here or under General Reports.
Article = [URL]http://timesofsandiego.com/crime/2017/05/30/big-bad-john-police-sting-nets-13-sex-buyers/?google_editors_picks=true[/URL].
Recent LEO bust sweep hit last week. Reports of 13 hobbyist cuffed. Articles don't say location but reasearch shows half those busts were in NC.
They all got lured to the Marina Best Western by the in and out. Then came the clampdown.
Stay safe![/QUOTE]That's why none of us are sex buyers. We just by time or a massage; nothing more. If anything else happens, it's not something that we're paying for. Perfectly legal.