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[QUOTE=Wastrel]Just heard at the bar in the El Cortez, the latest rumor, now that Barrick is officially out of the old Gaughan properties downtown, is that the Western will be converted to a smoke-free casino. Don't know if there's anything to it, but I find this notion hilarious.
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Just came across an article saying that in March the WESTIN (the old Maxim) will be going smokeless. Perhaps a twist thru the rumor mill?
I still can't see the Western doing it. Like I said earlier - it masks the odors :)
[QUOTE=Cienega32]Just came across an article saying that in March the WESTIN (the old Maxim) will be going smokeless. Perhaps a twist thru the rumor mill?
I still can't see the Western doing it. Like I said earlier - it masks the odors :)[/QUOTE]Now that makes sense to me.
Aren't rumors fun? And I'll give this one extra credit becuase it may originally have sort of been based on a misunderstanding of something that might actually become a fact somewhere. Not bad.
[QUOTE=Cienega32]Just came across an article saying that in March the WESTIN (the old Maxim) will be going smokeless. Perhaps a twist thru the rumor mill?
I still can't see the Western doing it. Like I said earlier - it masks the odors :)[/QUOTE]
Ahhhhhhhh..........ya, does make some sense. Was just reading over the past weeks free weekly papers, thinking it was Citylife that has a weekly 'bar' column, which this week went in search of the perfect bourbon on the rocks, and the winner was, ironically, the Westin. Now the Western has turned a bit of a new leaf with the country and western band on Friday and Sat nites competing with the soul and hiphop coming from the satellite jukebox. A great contrast to be sure. Not to start a flamewar here on the topic of homelessness, but it did pull at my heartstrings when a very respectful homeless black guy gave the cashier a handfull of change that totalled exactly $2.50, for his breakfast special. Softy I am, had to slip a buck on his tray and wish him a happy new year with a wink. This was Monday morning, after a what must have been a chilly night sleeping on the rainy streets Sunday...
Stardust to close this year to make way for a full 63 acre renovation with 4(?) hotels to pop up on the spread.
This one pulls at my heartstrings being their sports book was the only reason I stayed here this long. Just as well. Since they took over the Coast properties, their numbers have gone to hell.
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Boyd Gaming Corp. (BYD) unveiled plans on Wednesday for a $4 billion development in Las Vegas to open in early 2010.
The development, to be named Echelon Place, will be built on a 63-acre site on the Las Vegas Strip, the company said. It will include four hotels featuring 5,300 guest rooms and suites.
The Las Vegas site is currently occupied by the Stardust Hotel and Casino, which the company said it will operate through 2006.
Thinking back to the old Holiday south (Boardwalk), I was thinking back to the Holiday Center Strip and came across an old pic (1982) of it. The view is looking over the Gran Prix track at Caesars, which was basically a bunch of "K walls" placed around the parking lot (now called the Forum Shops).
Off Koval, behind the Imperial Palace, there used to be car races. Not the kind like they had at Caesars, mind you. These were provided by Mother Nature.
All one had to do was pick a car - any car - and wait to see which one would end up in the intersection first.
This wasn't at the peak of activity - the levels rose to be over the windshields and there are no drivers in the 2nd pic.
I know there is a Key Largo Hotel on E. Flamingo, but wasn't there another one that had closed down?
I'd like to find out where it was, so if anyone has any info. I'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
R
That's the way we do it in Las Vegas.
The old Showboat, which was renamed The Castaways, was imploded this morning into a nice & neat little pile of rubble.
I hit my very first straight flush (King high, of course) in December of 1981 at that joint.
I never did like the fact that they renamed it "The Castaways". It always felt like some kid on the Yankees was wearing number "7". Some things should just be retired out of respect and the "Castaways" name should've been one of them.
But, alas, yet another change to our metamorphic skyline.
Gee Cienega, seems like ur the only one posting on this thread for the past week. Nothing to report except.....*watches tumbleweed blow past*
Wish I knew what time they were imploding the Castaways. Would have woke up just to see that.
The only Key Largo I know of is the one that was at Paradise & Flamingo that closed last year. It used to be called the Ambassador back in the day.
[QUOTE=ClitCommander]Gee Cienega, seems like ur the only one posting on this thread for the past week. Nothing to report except.....*watches tumbleweed blow past*
Wish I knew what time they were imploding the Castaways. Would have woke up just to see that.[/QUOTE]
I had cruised down The Rock the other nite and it looked like they were setting up for implosion, with the "Street Closed on..." signs. I was going to post it but didn't have time. Next thing I know I wake up, turn on the news and there all standing around talking about the implosion. I wanted to watch it myself. I swear I think I felt/heard it way over here on the west side of the valley. Maybe it was a dream.
I've been slowly packing up things and I keep coming across old stuff that vaults me down Memory Lane and then they implode the old SHowboat which has the same effect. It's just one big sad process for me, after living here for so long. knowing that I'm leaving. I sit upstairs at my desk and can see the south end of the strip, 10 miles away and it saddens me. Don't know why as the move is strictly by choice but it's been a great ride for 25 years.
If Harrah's buys the Imperial Palace, like I've heard some time ago, it really will be the end of an era for me. I remember the property line wars between those two years ago. Which is why they built add-ons so close to each other - you kill my view/I kill your view, etc.
And speaking of tumbleweed, does anyone remember when - ... aw, nevermind :(
Just to revive a link that I know someone (probably our beloved Wastrel) posted a while back:
[url]http://www.jetcafe.org/~npc/gambling/casino_death_watch.html[/url]
A nice text overview of progress in Las Vegas.
Those who missed the event can catch the pictures of it at:
[url]http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jan-12-Thu-2006/news/5303102.html[/url]
Or see video of it from several viewpoints at:
[url]http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4344457[/url]
The "Crackdale" SW & tweaker apartments are behind the tower in the background of what is described as the "helicopter view" (third in the series on the clip) in this TV station coverage.
The dust cloud lasted for hours, so some Boulder/Fremont pedestrians are looking more filthy than usual right about now. The sound of two-hundred thousand car alarms going off in the morning has fortunately subsided.
Nice little funny/sad piece in the RJ:
[B]JANE ANN MORRISON: One person's Stardust memories only skim surface of decades gone by[/b]
The weeping and wailing over the recent closing of the Boardwalk seemed a bit excessive. The implosion of the Castaways (aka the Showboat) didn't call for any gnashing of teeth and tearing of garments.
But the loss of the Stardust is a piece of history that I hate to see go...
<SNIP>
One of my favorite Stardust skimming memories was the time the FBI had been watching two men they thought were couriers exchanging the money skimmed from the hotel. Month after month outside a grocery store, a package is exchanged. Somehow, the one time the FBI obtains a warrant and moves in to seize the package supposedly containing thousands of dollars, the package contained: just cookies.
[url]http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jan-16-Mon-2006/news/5372667.html[/url]
"Flag Luxury Riv LLC, Rivacq LLC and
High Desert Gaming LLC, disclosed a
joint bidding agreement to acquire the
Riviera. No plans for the hotel or
for the valuable adjoining real estate
were announced."
This is from Steve Miller, a guy who runs an online news site tracking 'connections' (to put it mildly) between the mob and the Las Vegas political establishment, law enforcement, and judicial officials. With that little hobby he's a busy man. He's also a former Las Vegas City Councilman. He posted this yesterday, but the local press did not:
[I][B]Crazy Horse bouncer reported dead [/b]
Maurice "Mo" McKenna
A reliable source reports that long time Crazy Horse Too topless bar bouncer Maurice "Mo" McKenna has died.
McKenna, 45, was expected to be a witness in the upcoming OPERATION CRAZY HORSE racketeering trial.
The 300-pound, 6' 1" bouncer was named in an Incident Report but not taken into custody on May 30, 2002, for the alleged beating of Scottsdale, Arizona tourist Michael Silverman. This was not the first time McKenna was accused of beating Crazy Horse Too patrons.
McKenna was also identified as the bouncer who allegedly assaulted Glendale, California tourist Chris Johnson on Monday, October 21, 2002. Johnson in a police report stated that a Crazy Horse bouncer pushed him into the street where he fell twisting his ankle. Johnson said the man who pushed him weighed over 300 pounds and matched McKenna's description.
Since his election in 2003, current Clark County District Attorney David Roger has refused to prosecute any employee of the Crazy Horse Too.
On August 4, 1995, California trucker Scott David Fau was found beaten to death next to railroad tracks behind the Crazy Horse Too. A witness reported seeing Fau being severely beaten by Crazy Horse employees in the parking lot after he was ejected from the bar. According to the witness, one of the men who was reportedly observed kicking Fau in the head was named "Mo."
In a taped statement, the witness described two men who he said worked as bouncers at the club. "Yeah, they're the ones that beat up this Hawaiian guy out there that was just - the poor guy wasn't even moving, and they were kicking him, and um, at that point that's all. They were just kicking him around, jumping on him, stomping on his arm. They stomped his leg. Kicked him in the stomach. They kept - Mo was kicking him in the head, and you just watched his head wiggle around."
Former District Attorney Stu Bell refused to prosecute anyone in the Fau case, so on January 16, 2003, eight years after her husband's death and after several dismissals of her case, Scott Fau's widow Camille sued the Crazy Horse in Clark County District Court. When the purported eyewitness did not appear in court, Judge Nancy M. Saitta refused to allow his taped testimony to be heard by the jury. Subsequently, Fau lost her case.
Now, a young man who would have been a key witness for federal prosecutors is reportedly dead.[/I]
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P.S. For those who aren't aware of it, the official "owner" of the joint, Rick Rizzolo, is the Mayor's buddy, and his unofficial boss, Joey "The Clown" Lombardo, head of the Chicago mob who's currently under indictment for 18 murders, is a longtime indirect business associate of Hizzoner, making him rich through his clients. I wouldn't care to run up a big bar tab in this place, and wouldn't expect a very thorough local police investigation if it ended badly.
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[B]Crazy Horse bouncer reported dead [/b]
Maurice "Mo" McKenna
A reliable source reports that long time Crazy Horse Too topless bar bouncer Maurice "Mo" McKenna has died.
McKenna, 45, was expected to be a witness in the upcoming OPERATION CRAZY HORSE racketeering trial.
The 300-pound, 6' 1" bouncer was named in an Incident Report but not taken into custody on May 30, 2002, for the alleged beating of Scottsdale, Arizona tourist Michael Silverman. This was not the first time McKenna was accused of beating Crazy Horse Too patrons.
McKenna was also identified as the bouncer who allegedly assaulted Glendale, California tourist Chris Johnson on Monday, October 21, 2002. Johnson in a police report stated that a Crazy Horse bouncer pushed him into the street where he fell twisting his ankle. Johnson said the man who pushed him weighed over 300 pounds and matched McKenna's description.
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The obvious implication here is that 'Mo' got 'whacked' by the Mob before he could 'sing'
.... and that's exactly what yet another CH·2 patron who got assaulted by Mo and who then gathered up a few of his buds and a fire·arm and ambushed Mo and got permanent Revenge , *wants* you to think
A word of Advice to all 6'1" 300 lb bouncers who get their jollies beating up customers =
[b] " God didn't create All Men Equal..... Smith & Wesson did " [/b]
All this about Crazy Horse is simply the reason I have never gone there. If you want a strip club experience, there are lots of clubs without taking the risk that can come with this club.
R
From the Las Vegas Business Press:
[I]Harrah's Entertainment has put radio frequency tracking tags on its cocktail waitresses at the Rio All-Suites Hotel & Casino in what it calls an effort to improve customer service. However, the gaming giant's use of the technology on its employees is raising some questions.
In what it refers to as a "pilot program," the casino is using the Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tags, which send out signals that are tracked through readers installed at various locations. Harrah's has placed the readers on tables and bars in the beverage and gaming areas to determine how long it takes cocktail waitresses to serve customers, Harrah's Entertainment Chief Information Officer Tim Stanley said. "It just looks at the cycle time between service," he explained.
"We are taking some of that technology and attaching it to the beverage servers on the casino floor," Stanley added...[/I]
Complete article at: [url]http://www.lvbusinesspress.com/articles/2006/01/09/news/news01.txt[/url]
I wonder if proximity to a mass of silicone would tend to interfere with the RF transmissions?
[QUOTE=Wastrel]From the Las Vegas Business Press:
[I]Harrah's Entertainment has put radio frequency tracking tags on its cocktail waitresses at the Rio All-Suites Hotel & Casino in what it calls an effort to improve customer service.... In what it refers to as a "pilot program," the casino is using the Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tags, which send out signals that are tracked through readers installed at various locations.[/I] [/QUOTE]
Heck , they're already starting to use these RFID gadgets on fricken Casino Chips
See = [URL]http://*******.com/c8r2a[/URL]
This actually isn't a completely bad thing , be·cause my game is dice and now there'll be no more guess·work in figuring out my rating since the chip·reader will keep track of every single bet and win / loss
OTOH , I'll now have to remember to only pay my Week·End Warrior with *cash*
Hooters Casino & Hotel opens this week. I don't know how I feel about this whole venture. It'll be interesting. I wonder if any CG's will feel comfortable working in the midst of all the hooters girls flaunting around. I don't think I remember ever seeing any CG's at San Remo. I may be wrong. Tons of working girls at the Motel6 next door though.
Interesting to note that they decided to name it Hooters Casino & Hotel, rather than Hooters Hotel & Casino. The latter may give some questionable implications.
Just traveled to LV today and read the post. Where is the Hooters Casino located?
[QUOTE=Vanderley]Hooters Casino & Hotel opens this week....[/QUOTE]
What·ever you do , do NOT ask the cock·tail waitress there for = " A large coke in a size 'D' cup "
You might get a Bust in the mouth !!
Hooters is now the old San Remo. Its down the block from the MGM and NYNY. I have to agree, dont know if the "working girls" would want to compete with the "working girls".
I am sure the HCH Management is strict with the worker/customer relationships.
Looking forward to the reports.
[QUOTE=Jazzngolf]Just traveled to LV today and read the post. Where is the Hooters Casino located?[/QUOTE]
It's the old San Remo, isn't it?
[QUOTE=IndyDave]It's the old San Remo, isn't it?[/QUOTE]
Correct - also known as the old Treasury.
At this moment I'm on the verge of breaking down "Cienega32 Central" - the nerve center of my existance. My computers are on the floor and their respective boxes are crying out to them. Pretty much the last thing to be loaded, other than a clean pair of shorts.
I'm a shortie, as we speak and Monday will have my day-to-day in a new Zipper - an 88012 zipper - virtually moments away from the Ciudad of Juarez.
Good Lord! I might have to revert to dial-up and dig out my old 300 baud modem - there's no cable on my block yet!
At any rate - it's been a pleasure sharing the boards on a native level with all of you fine, fellow mongers. I'll still be here but not on a "rolling" basis.
Play safe, brothers!
Sorry to see ya go as you've been a wealth of info over the years.
I've been AWOL for a while due to various reasons and hope to contribute again shortly. I just finished booking my next trip and unsuccessfully tried to get a room at the Hooter's casino just to see what room service would be like. I just hope they don't serve Hooter's food at that place.
-USTraveller
[QUOTE=USTraveller]Sorry to see ya go as you've been a wealth of info over the years.
I've been AWOL for a while due to various reasons and hope to contribute again shortly. I just finished booking my next trip and unsuccessfully tried to get a room at the Hooter's casino just to see what room service would be like. I just hope they don't serve Hooter's food at that place.
-USTraveller[/QUOTE]
There must be some hidden agenda in my world as I've seemed to have arranged the move to consists of two 17' truck trips [complete], one more to retrieve the car [this weekend] and yet another to empty out my storage space.
Most people would've done it with one big truck and a car trailer and be done with it...
My timing is a bit off as it seems that the heavy coat wrappers are starting to be left in the closets. But at least now I can be a tourist with a rentacar and hit the strip ;).
I thought I noticed a void in regard to posts from you, USTraveller - glad to see you back!
Got a great deal from the Vegas Club (two free nights) that I could not pass up and everything else lined so I'm going to be in town Feb 27 - March 1. Does anyone have reccomendations on where DT would be the best place to spend Madri Gras evening exchanging beads for bare skin poses for my camera and maybe even find a wayward college student to bring back to my hotel room for some excess before lent sets in the next day.
If you are talking about working girls, forget about it. You might find something wayward, but most likely not. I've never had luck except to pick up something in my car on Fremont/Boulder Hwy and take her back to my room. Also, I note that you are staying weekdays, so your chances of finding a early 20's cutie are significantly diminshed as most of these types come in on the weekend. What you will find some of is either lonley local milfs, off duty single mom dealers, and also the occasional early 40's I just got a divorce and want to come to Vegas but weekends are too expensive types.
[QUOTE=Bamadawg]Got a great deal from the Vegas Club (two free nights) that I could not pass up and everything else lined so I'm going to be in town Feb 27 - March 1. Does anyone have reccomendations on where DT would be the best place to spend Madri Gras evening exchanging beads for bare skin poses for my camera and maybe even find a wayward college student to bring back to my hotel room for some excess before lent sets in the next day.[/QUOTE]
Of this happening in Vegas. I bet 2 to 1!!!!
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Now this sounds like one helluva employment opportunity.
Spotsylvania Deputies Receive Sex Services in Prostitution Cases
By Tom Jackman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, February 13, 2006; Page B01
They enter the massage parlors as undercover detectives. They leave as satisfied customers.
In Spotsylvania County, as part of a campaign by the sheriff's office to root out prostitution in the massage parlor business, detectives have been receiving sexual services from "masseuses." During several visits to Moon Spa on Plank Road last month, detectives allowed women to perform sexual acts on them on four occasions and once left a $350 tip, according to court papers.
Spotsylvania Sheriff Howard D. Smith said that the practice is not new and that only unmarried detectives are assigned to such cases. Most prostitutes are careful not to say anything incriminating, so sexual contact is necessary, he said.
"If I thought we could get the conviction without that, we wouldn't allow it," Smith said. "If you want to make them, this has to be done."
But numerous police and legal experts said they were not aware of any law enforcement agency in the Washington region, or the country, that allows sexual contact in prostitution investigations. Police should not break the law to enforce it, they said.
"It's insane," said Charles J. Key Sr., a retired Baltimore police lieutenant who trains police officers and federal agents across the country. "If you allow officers to go through with the act, they've violated the law. You don't get an exception for participating in a violation of law."
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...6021200943.html[/url]
Las Vegas Club is in CG central. You are a block from the Greyhound Bus station. Two blocks from the city bus station. Three blocks from one of the most active CG locations called the Gold Spike aka home of the dollar Tecate beer. (By the way, CG to most posters means Club Girls, in Las Vegas it means Casino Girls, but to me it means Crack Girls).
Nine blocks down Fremont you will find the Western aka the Sistern and also home of the dollar Tecate beer. The "Stern", as we regulars fondly call it, has become the refuge of half the CG's in the downtown area since the closure of competing facilities. If you can't score here, you might as well go back to Bama.
The accepted service rate for BBBJCIM is $20. I usually tip them a Tecate beer of their choice if they swallow. This is an accepted anti spermicide and cleans the sticky residue from the palate. Full service is $40. Please DO NOT overpay. These are long time established rates. If you pay any more, they will treat you as a tourist dawg from Bama, give you substandard service, and possibly have their drug dealing pimp roll you.
P.S. The bead thing is right across Fremont from your hotel. See ya at the Stern.
[QUOTE=Cienega32]At this moment I'm on the verge of breaking down "Cienega32 Central" - the nerve center of my existance.
Play safe, brothers![/QUOTE]
Since I have about 5 years time in service on you, and since you're leaving the area, I hereby respectfully request permission to borrow your phrase : "I remember when"?
Your friend in 89109 Hell,
Suarte !
Hi,
Can anyone tell me what the current Marijuana laws are like in Las Vegas? If someone was looking for something along those lines in Las Vegas where would a good place be to find a connection? Just curious. I used to live there years ago and possession was a felony. I thought I read somewhere it is not anymore but I wasn't sure.
Ugh......be warned, Normin Stormin's advice is not for the faint of heart. With the Western, we are talking maybe the worst casino in Vegas. And the walk there ain't pretty. I wouldn't recommend anyone walk there by themselves after nightfall.
Lets put it this way....most of the bars at the downtown Vegas casinos are too shady for most people used to the strip. Gold Spike pushes the boundaries, and Western is several steps below that. Also, the quality of girl is likely to be very bad. I suggest you read the write ups on these places at cheapo vegas before you venture down.
[QUOTE=Norman Stormin]Las Vegas Club is in CG central. You are a block from the Greyhound Bus station. Two blocks from the city bus station. Three blocks from one of the most active CG locations called the Gold Spike aka home of the dollar Tecate beer. (By the way, CG to most posters means Club Girls, in Las Vegas it means Casino Girls, but to me it means Crack Girls).
Nine blocks down Fremont you will find the Western aka the Sistern and also home of the dollar Tecate beer. The "Stern", as we regulars fondly call it, has become the refuge of half the CG's in the downtown area since the closure of competing facilities. If you can't score here, you might as well go back to Bama.
The accepted service rate for BBBJCIM is $20. I usually tip them a Tecate beer of their choice if they swallow. This is an accepted anti spermicide and cleans the sticky residue from the palate. Full service is $40. Please DO NOT overpay. These are long time established rates. If you pay any more, they will treat you as a tourist dawg from Bama, give you substandard service, and possibly have their drug dealing pimp roll you.
P.S. The bead thing is right across Fremont from your hotel. See ya at the Stern.[/QUOTE]
I feel so safe downtown I used to drop off my eighty year old mother for the midnight bingo session at the Stern.
Fremont Street is more heavily protected than the White House. Bike cops, foot patrols, motorized dirt bike cops, horse mounted cops, undercover vice and narco cops, not to mention the two squads of black and whites accompanied by two paddy wagons always in the hood.
Then there's the street survelance system Jackie Gaughn installed years ago which covers every square inch of downtown from Main to 10th Streets and Ogden to Carson.
And let us not forget Oscar's cleanup campaign which started about two years ago. I'd venture to say that about 80% of what Hiz Honor calls cock-a-roaches are gone.
Wadahya think about a new thread for the "BRAVE HEARTS"?
DOWNTOWN / The Real Las Vegas
The Other Las Vegas
The Sleazy Las Vegas
For The Not So Faint Of Heart
... you could stand in the doorway of the 'Stern and be called across the street by "pretty" SW'ers. To the back of the building, by a dumpster, for a nice stand-up BBBJ and plow from behind for $25 and no worries.
Norman - I only request that I can retain my usage rights of "IRW" and that such usage, on my part, will be at random and, of course, will apply to 89109 as well as to any other areas that currently do or do not exist. Other than that - use at will!
Wanting to try a few joints out on my way out:
Holiday Express on Industrial Rd: Overpriced. Interior room access. I usually stay at X's on the road and this place doesn't come close to anything I would suggest. No fridge/micro. Wireless Internet that was non-existant in my room. $125 the nite I was there and the clerk tried to explain it, with my local ID in his hand, as if I was tourist - "It all depends what events we have in town". No shit? What convention are you hosting, the empty parking space show?
Motel 6 on Industrial Rd: Pure dump. Noisy as hell and not a SW out front to found the 2 nites I was there. I could drive that road at any time and see at least 3. I stay there ($50/nite) and nada. Toilet plugged easily, upstairs feets were louder than in an old house with kids.
Town & Country III way down on The Rock - past Nevada Palace. $69 a nite and this place was great. Outside room access. Not for action (could be a "bring to") but to stay. Full kitchen studio and was nice and quiet. I'll stay there again w/out hesitation. If you smoke, bring an ash-tray. Fortunately, I had one from home in my trunk - why, I don't know. Dial-up Internet access thru a phone port. Front desk closes at 8pm.
All three took a copy of my local license.
I used to stay at the Extended Stay on Valley View (Across from the Rio/Gold Coast) when I came to town. The prices went from $36 to $45 to $60 a night over my past 3 stays. It was worth it for $36 but not for $60. Recent reviews say that the front desk warned them about working girls working there, so it could be a place to stay if your looking for close action.
I'm looking for a new "extended stay" place and may check out the Town and Country places. I already booked my rooms for my next trip so I'm already good. I've also considered Emerald Suites in the past, but never pulled the trigger on trying it.
I don't get the reason why Holiday Inn Expresses are so darn expensive in this town. I could stay at a nice place for $125 a night.
-USTraveller