Name change don't be fooled
[QUOTE=Stressed Out;1174744]I'm guessing this was the Golden Flower (suite 1A) that opened up in Feb. The reviews on that place were good with a topless HJ the usual outcome. The massage was good and the tease also worthwhile. Sounds like they have changed again and not for the better.[/QUOTE]I got the same outcome posted here last time I was there. I saw the name change and went back for a visit without an appointment. The exact same crew was there so I walked out. I went to Main street in Medford accross from Dunkin and got typical AAMP service.
Addiction implies some type of withdrawal or un resolved tension just to feel normal.
[QUOTE=Stressed Out; 1174757]You call it flaming and we call it policing ourselves as to be fair to the provider and in the end ourselves. Here is my. 02 not that you asked for it or even care. So you went out and had your visit. Pissed her off in the door fee dept and then again in the tip dept. And how is that being fair to the masseuse as you wrote? So I go in to see her (or someone she knows and talks to) later that day or the next. And what do I get. A distrustful, pissed off provider who isn't going to give me the service or the session that I want and probably would have gotten if she hadn't been shortchanged on the tip that she SHOULD have gotten. And yes it is obvious when that happens just like it is obvious when one of us has a bad day. The massage may not be as good, the back and forth may not be as nice and now being distrustful she may want the tip upfront which tends to ruin the mood. So yes your being a cheap bastard does ruin it for others.
As far as an addiction or a hobby. I've been doing this for 30 years ON and OFF. The reason for the on and off is that when times are tight I cut back or just don't go at all. In the last 2 years I had a period where I was out of work for 5 months and didn't go and lived through your experiences on the board. And with the current economic climate I've only been a couple of times since last fall. I don't have the extra scratch so I'm not going to go. I'm not as you said going to put my family in peril to get a HJ. And to be qable to enjoy that every once in awhile experience I just don't spend elsewhere. At 5-10 bucks a week on lunch I make it myself now and save that $ for my visit. Same with morning java. I make it myself, I don't go out with the 'gang' and drop bucks. We all spend on ourselves and if we are willing to trade one for another then we can deal.
On the other hand if your a 'sex addict' and need 'strange' all the time then I guess it can be an addiction. Of course it is emotional or mental rather than a physical one. Which category you fall into I don't know and I wish you luck. But not being fair to the hard working providers is a shame and TBH one that we won't stand for. So your out on an island my friend. [/QUOTE]I imagine one can judge by there frame of reference. Addicts are impaired in their life and and its the harm in some way to continue their habits be that physically, financially, emotionally / psychologically or spiritually damaging to themselves.
My pursuits as a hobby are limited by my realities of real life and genuine commitments to family and work. It is certainly a self indulgent experience but if I don't have the cash to spend.
I am not going to beg steal or borrow or do something foolish to my credit to get a TS and then something.
The ethics of tipping have been described well here. I certainly try to do so fairly if effort has been tried.
If lousy service is given the tip will be at the expected minimum and word will get out to the brotherhood here to be cautious expecting more.
There is certainly quite a dark side to all of this that is done and that is where the stereotyping gets down both to us and the ladies we see.
All we can try to do be is decent and gentlemanly.
You really know how to make friends on this board
[QUOTE=Handjobluvr;1175206]I assume that those of you who believe that this is a hobby are very proud of this hobby, right? And that you have told your wife about your hobby? No? Why not? How about your doctor? When you go for your annual physical, and your doctor asks if you have any hobbies, you state with a great deal of pride,"I visit Asian Massage Parlors."[/QUOTE]I think its best if U leave or STFU