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What's it worth??
A few guys post have inspired me to come up with this new thread. This thread was inspired by guys who respond to other guys reviews with, "you paid too much", "stop overpaying". There have been plenty of times when a guy posted a review and others have chimed in and said, "Dude you paid too much", "You got ripped off", "Why are you overpaying". List your price range of what you think a guy should be paying for like say a quickie with a black chic or a quickie with a white chic or any other race. Covered and uncovered? Also, at a certain location if possible (eastside, northside, southside, Buckhead, etc). Let me start with one first. This is kind of like an example of what I'm talking about but I'm being more specific here and choosing a specific chic since I want some feedback on this specific chic.
I just had a little reasoning with Delta Flier on the "Backpage Review" thread. He saw a certain chic in a 3 star hotel for $60 for a qv with everything covered. He said it was good for the $60 but wouldn't go to see her again since she is now charging $100. He says he recommends her services if your ok with paying $100, but that's outside his price range. Do you actually believe this chic is worth $100? Let's just say for the sake of this, that she is in a nice hotel in Buckhead. Would you be willing to shell out $100 for this with everything covered. If you say, yay, briefly explain why you would, if possible. If you say nay, explain why you wouldn't and what price would you be willing to pay this chic.
Me personally, with no reviews anywhere, I don't think an unknown black chic in Atlanta is worth anymore than $60. I've paid $80 plenty of times and was terribly dissappointed. There are way too many black chics in Atlanta that would do more for less, that this chics starting rate of $100 for everything covered is laughable to me. This chic has no presence anywhere and she's a nobody as far as I'm concerned. Birds like these come a dime a dozen. I can't see any white guy paying $100 for this and definitely don't see any "brothas" shelling out $100 for it either. What do you think? Would you even pay $60 for this?
[URL]http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/atlanta/470-203-9418/4/1553995[/URL]
[blue]Here's the deal. Johnny is setting this up to be a thread where guys give their opinion and that's fine. First fight and I roll it into the fight thread.
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This just in
[URL]http://hotashley.escortforu.com/gallery[/URL]
A poster just posted this one in the review section. If I recall correctly, he paid 3 (3 hundred?) for her to come to his upscale motel. After reviewing the pics, I've come to the conclusion of " Hell nawl to the nawl nawl nawl".
That's just my opinion though.
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Good thread.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMapalo;3117696]A few guys post have inspired me to come up with this new thread. This thread was inspired by guys who respond to other guys reviews with, "you paid too much", "stop overpaying". There have been plenty of times when a guy posted a review and others have chimed in and said, "Dude you paid too much", "You got ripped off", "Why are you overpaying". List your price range of what you think a guy should be paying for like say a quickie with a black chic or a quickie with a white chic or any other race. Covered and uncovered? Also, at a certain location if possible (eastside, northside, southside, Buckhead, etc). Let me start with one first. This is kind of like an example of what I'm talking about but I'm being more specific here and choosing a specific chic since I want some feedback on this specific chic.
I just had a little reasoning with Delta Flier on the "Backpage Review" thread. He saw a certain chic in a 3 star hotel for $60 for a qv with everything covered. He said it was good for the $60 but wouldn't go to see her again since she is now charging $100. He says he recommends her services if your ok with paying $100, but that's outside his price range. Do you actually believe this chic is worth $100? Let's just say for the sake of this, that she is in a nice hotel in Buckhead. Would you be willing to shell out $100 for this with everything covered. If you say, yay, briefly explain why you would, if possible. If you say nay, explain why you wouldn't and what price would you be willing to pay this chic.
Me personally, with no reviews anywhere, I don't think an unknown black chic in Atlanta is worth anymore than $60. I've paid $80 plenty of times and was terribly dissappointed. There are way too many black chics in Atlanta that would do more for less, that this chics starting rate of $100 for everything covered is laughable to me. This chic has no presence anywhere and she's a nobody as far as I'm concerned. Birds like these come a dime a dozen. I can't see any white guy paying $100 for this and definitely don't see any "brothas" shelling out $100 for it either. What do you think? Would you even pay $60 for this?
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[blue]Here's the deal. Johnny is setting this up to be a thread where guys give their opinion and that's fine. First fight and I roll it into the fight thread.
A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Great idea. Always admired JM's reviews and respect the way he provides detailed reviews. Anyway to answer the question, I have two answers. First answer is no only because I noticed from the link to her ad that she apparently travels around the country. That makes me think that her attitude or at least her service will be poor after all that travel and experience. Second answer is yes as long as she doesn't seem to be advertising all the time and seems like she isn't going down hill. But she has to actually look like the grl in the ad. She definitely looks hot and up here we don't get as much talent as frequently as you do down there. If we did, the price would drop up here. So I say "hell yes" overall.
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Monger nerds?
Oh, my cup of tea, pricing theory.
As for black girls, I mean, come on, this is Atlanta: figure half of provider age girls (at least) are black, they're overrepresented in lower socioeconomic groups (provider origins), and they're more likely to be young mothers without a financially-contributing male partner. That's hoe stew, right there.
Go to LA, and it'll be latinas; Long Beach will be Cambodians, etc. Follow the low-income demographics, and after that it's all supply and demand.
Since this thread is here. A couple of months ago I calculated the upcharge for BBFS based on a number of risk factors, but never posted it because it was pretty technical, but basically, a reasonable BBFS upcharge is $50. I don't think I've ever paid it, but if demanded, it's fair.
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[QUOTE=GetUrRollOnMan;3118333][URL]http://hotashley.escortforu.com/gallery[/URL]
A poster just posted this one in the review section. If I recall correctly, he paid 3 (3 hundred?) for her to come to his upscale motel. After reviewing the pics, I've come to the conclusion of " Hell nawl to the nawl nawl nawl".
That's just my opinion though.[/QUOTE]She's a thin white girl with a history (big risk factor taken care of). I wouldn't pay it, but I'd say generally a thin, young white girl CAN command $300.
Now, that's agency pricing, and agencies usually take 40%, booker 10-20%, and the girl grabs 40-50% of the fee, so an agency girl is actually taking home $150; in that sense, she (being, presumably, independent) is charging a lot. Now, agencies handle marketing costs, venue cost, and mitigate risk with a screened client base, all of which add value to that $150 take home. Assuming a $100 room and four dicks a day, that's $25, marketing may be $20 per day in value (assuming a $600 Eros placement), so add $ 5 a dick, and you're up to $180 value; after that, you have the intangible of client list value, which could be quite a lot, but still, I'd say $200 to $250 is a realistic value for an agency-quality girl (hourly rate).
This particular girl isn't my thing, but for someone keen on the "girl next door" type (which in our racist country means "thin, reasonably pretty white girl" ) I'd say $200 is fair; $300 is premium, and hopefully includes PSE services like anal, swallowing, and so on (though it should be noted that swallowing is an agency standard).
I do know that Nikki's hard-to-see girls were all slim, twenty-year-old white spinner swallowing fuck machines, and she charged $200 flat, and she was going for "no brainer" pricing; still, that's my white girl cap.
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My humbled take
In my experience I based what I'm willing to donate based on what services your provided and based on if you have reviews or not. Hearing some of you base what your willing to pay on location and the color of of girl is "different" I've seen ladies with upscale locations that were highly reviewed on here and ThE otheR review site that was disappointed I've seen girls in union city that should be asking what those ladies ask for based on the service they provide. Here's how I base my search and what I'm willing to donate. QVs <. 60. If you asking for. 60 and no bbj I won't see you that's ridiculous. <. 100 for hh if I'm not getting some type of GFE for. 100 hh then beat it! If they ask for more for cim I'll find someone else. If they ask for more than. 25 roses for Greek forget it!! I've seen girls ask for. 100 Qv no GFE no reviews everything covered. There has been two occasions where I stepped out of my boundaries. Layla Luv based out of Savannah was asking for. 150 hh when I seen her two years ago worth every penny. I seen Anisa So Thick comes to Atlanta alot I seen her for. 200 hh should of been about. 80 I don't blame the girls they only going to ask what ever somebody is willing to donate there's too many girls in Atlanta to be donating that kinda of coin for mediocre basic service though like I just seen an ad <60 qv for top only covered LOL but to quote Romany Malco "stop putting the p* on a pedastool".
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Upcharge
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3119188]Oh, my cup of tea, pricing theory.
As for black girls, I mean, come on, this is Atlanta: figure half of provider age girls (at least) are black, they're overrepresented in lower socioeconomic groups (provider origins), and they're more likely to be young mothers without a financially-contributing male partner. That's hoe stew, right there.
Go to LA, and it'll be latinas; Long Beach will be Cambodians, etc. Follow the low-income demographics, and after that it's all supply and demand.
Since this thread is here. A couple of months ago I calculated the upcharge for BBFS based on a number of risk factors, but never posted it because it was pretty technical, but basically, a reasonable BBFS upcharge is $50. I don't think I've ever paid it, but if demanded, it's fair.
O.[/QUOTE]The most I'm willing to pay for BBBJ is 20. Most women has an asset which is sex. Girls should never need an handler to provide sex to someone. If they have an handler its about control.
They need to just make this a job oh wait it is. Porno movies. It's hidden under the notion of a business which pays taxes. Porno is no more than a profession with a license to buy sex. Which is what we do.
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[QUOTE=WhenWhen;3119034]Great idea. Always admired JM's reviews and respect the way he provides detailed reviews. Anyway to answer the question, I have two answers. First answer is no only because I noticed from the link to her ad that she apparently travels around the country. That makes me think that her attitude or at least her service will be poor after all that travel and experience. Second answer is yes as long as she doesn't seem to be advertising all the time and seems like she isn't going down hill. But she has to actually look like the grl in the ad. She definitely looks hot and up here we don't get as much talent as frequently as you do down there. If we did, the price would drop up here. So I say "hell yes" overall.[/QUOTE]I like this thread.
FWIW, pic are her. When I sawher that one time when I walked in I was totally shocked. To se that it was her. I mean, I was like damn girl its you (didn't say that out loud). I'm also saying to myself, what's the catch here? Surprisingly, like I said in my brief review, she was very nice and service was good. Neck service was good and she took the wood in all positions with no complains. I've been really, really wanting to see her again I just can't shell out a Benjamin (that's her HH rate), but I think the price point is fine for her.
Okay, take Nola Love for example. Do a search on her. I've reviewed her along with a few others. She isn't posting right now but when she was, she was charging 80 for a QV which I think is crazy. As a provider I think she MAY be worth it but she was always out of one of the crummy motels off Union City. She can't charge thst kind of money for the location she was woking out of.
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[QUOTE=PayForItAnyway;3119246]The most I'm willing to pay for BBBJ is 20. Most women has an asset which is sex. Girls should never need an handler to provide sex to someone. If they have an handler its about control.
They need to just make this a job oh wait it is. Porno movies. It's hidden under the notion of a business which pays taxes. Porno is no more than a profession with a license to buy sex. Which is what we do.[/QUOTE]Well, I do think a handler can add value, provided that handler is committed to ensuring that his or her client (the provider) benefits; marketing, screening, getting rooms and so on can be a huge hassle. Of course, this is not a pimp, and not "a boyfriend", but a professional.
I mean, I mostly I deal directly with clients, but I work through agents as well, and it's nice because I just do what I do; yes, they get a (huge) chunk, but the added value (and contacts for future direct work) can be tremendous. (I have a multi-site project right now in Malaysia, Indonesia, Brazil, Vietnam, Thailand, and the Philippines. Would be a ***** if I had to actually handle the face-2-face sales function in those projects! Granted, it would be an epic monger tour, but still.).
I can also think of a number of situations in which I much preferred dealing with a handler who wanted to move pussy, and set prices accordingly; I'm thinking of Nancy (a Brazilian handler back in the day, who also handled bookings for girls with zero English fluency), the mamasan who handled Michelle at Holiday Spa (who charged a fixed $200 for service worth much more), Bozak at Brasilian Massage (going wayyy back), Sunny at Exotic Atlanta, and others.
$20 blowjobs are fine, but this forum is FULL of horror stories about $40 quickies, and if you factor in bad experiences and rip offs, you'll find the bargain shoppers are often paying more than the premium guys. I usually play north of $200, and I can probably count on one hand the number of "wasted money" experiences I've had, and that's in 25 years of renting pussyear old.
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[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3119188]Oh, my cup of tea, pricing theory.
Since this thread is here. A couple of months ago I calculated the upcharge for BBFS based on a number of risk factors, but never posted it because it was pretty technical, but basically, a reasonable BBFS upcharge is $50. I don't think I've ever paid it, but if demanded, it's fair.
O.[/QUOTE]Wow, only a $50 upcharge for Bare services. Really? I wonder how much a shot of penicillin cost nowadays? Probably can buy the pills off ebay for dirt cheap??
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[QUOTE=JohnnyMapalo;3119431]Wow, only a $50 upcharge for Bare services. Really? I wonder how much a shot of penicillin cost nowadays? Probably can buy the pills off ebay for dirt cheap??[/QUOTE]Well, its about risk. Needing a shot is hsrdly a certain conseqience of BBFS, so you have to merge cost data for procedures with morbidiy / mortality data for STDs (available from the CDC); run it rhrough a model and you can crunch out a number. My model suggests $50.
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[QUOTE=GetUrRollOnMan;3118333][URL]http://hotashley.escortforu.com/gallery[/URL]
A poster just posted this one in the review section. If I recall correctly, he paid 3 (3 hundred?) for her to come to his upscale motel. After reviewing the pics, I've come to the conclusion of " Hell nawl to the nawl nawl nawl".
That's just my opinion though.[/QUOTE]And another opinion is that she's quite simply as hot as they come. Tight body, very good attitude, and knows what the game is about. Maybe not for everyone, but far better than most anyone else I've seen, on this board or anywhere else.
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Ebony
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I just got back from seeing this chic yesterday and couldn't even believe my eyes. This chic was in a nice 4 star Marriott hotel on the North side and running $40 specials. Are you fucking kidding me? This chic's body was basically flawless. No tattoos, no scars, no scabs, no gun shot wounds, flat stomach, no baby damage, straight white teeth. I thought this chic was a stripper when I walked through the door. A perfect set of double dee tits, nice firm tight ass. WTF is she doing running $400 qv specials? I don't usually advocate spending $80-$100 on a qv but this chic's body alone was worth the price of admission. I don't also advocate pimps or handlers, but in this case this chic needs a manager to set her right. No way in hell if I was her handler, I would let her go for anything under $100. All she needs to do is fix up her attitude and she'd be straight. What a shame a chic like this is running $40 specials. What do you think her worth is?
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[QUOTE=JohnnyMapalo;3132484][URL]http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/atlanta/702-582-9761/3/1579871[/URL]
I just got back from seeing this chic yesterday and couldn't even believe my eyes. This chic was in a nice 4 star Marriott hotel on the North side and running $40 specials. Are you fucking kidding me? This chic's body was basically flawless. No tattoos, no scars, no scabs, no gun shot wounds, flat stomach, no baby damage, straight white teeth. I thought this chic was a stripper when I walked through the door. A perfect set of double dee tits, nice firm tight ass. WTF is she doing running $400 qv specials? I don't usually advocate spending $80-$100 on a qv but this chic's body alone was worth the price of admission. I don't also advocate pimps or handlers, but in this case this chic needs a manager to set her right. No way in hell if I was her handler, I would let her go for anything under $100. All she needs to do is fix up her attitude and she'd be straight. What a shame a chic like this is running $40 specials. What do you think her worth is?[/QUOTE]Hey Johnny her loss our gain bro! Don't be getting sensitive and falling in love LOL. Nah but for a qv she could do about $45-$50 I like mine a little but thicker but to each its own.
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[QUOTE=Bmat84;3132658]Hey Johnny her loss our gain bro! Don't be getting sensitive and falling in love LOL. Nah but for a qv she could do about $45-$50 I like mine a little but thicker but to each its own.[/QUOTE]You don't have much sense. I don't fall in love with none of these chics. I was just saying that chic is worth way more than a cheap $40 special. I just saw a few of her self-made porn videos and that shit is boring as hell. Now I realize that it wasn't me. She's just a lazy ass bore. What a shame.