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Over the past two years or so, I've had mostly good experiences with SA. I found five great ones there. Some I met with just once or twice, some more like once a week for several months. There were also two not so great ones: a "princess" who thought I was going to be her ATM without her having to do anything at all, and an "explorer" who wasn't really serious about it, just wanted to test out her own attractiveness and see what offers she could get. But I think I've learned to avoid these types, for the most part. Still end up thinking with the wrong head every once in a while though.
SA is not necessarily better than various escort ad sites. It all depends on what you're looking for. If you prefer hh or 1-hr appointments and lots of variety, SA probably isn't something that will interest you. If you're more into regularly-scheduled (1-2 times a week) multi-hour dates with one girl, it can be a very useful resource. It also seems to me (and this is definitely YMMV), that I see a lot less "pharmaceutical" issues, boyfriend issues, or other types of drama. Maybe I've just been lucky, like I said. YMMV.
Purely from this thread starting, I joined four different sites and did a little reading elsewhere. It seems to me, you better have some deep pockets for this game. While I do think there is going to be less drug issues, disease, etc. Drama could be the issue. I have yet to set a date with anyone. Of choose every site wants money to be able to contact the ladies which I can understand even though I hate paying for information. Then of course, you have no idea of the HE. I'll say I'm in between on whether to keep pursuing this.
[QUOTE=WrldTrvlr388;2217920]Purely from this thread starting, I joined four different sites and did a little reading elsewhere. It seems to me, you better have some deep pockets for this game. While I do think there is going to be less drug issues, disease, etc. Drama could be the issue. I have yet to set a date with anyone. Of choose every site wants money to be able to contact the ladies which I can understand even though I hate paying for information. Then of course, you have no idea of the HE. I'll say I'm in between on whether to keep pursuing this.[/QUOTE]Deep pockets certainly help (same as with just about anything else). Mine could use a lot more depth, but even with relatively limited resources, these sites can work. I'm not spending any more now than I was when I was seeing Alexis the Retired 3-5 times a month. In fact, it's actually less. It's not nearly as bad as it may seem if you're just looking at their stated expectations. They'll list anything there -- 5 k, 10 k / month. Doesn't hurt to ask, I guess. But I'm pretty sure very few of them ever get that. Well, maybe in places like NYC, Chicago, Bay area they might. For most of them, what they ask for and what they will happily accept are two very different things. This is a very rough estimate, but I'd say most are good with getting 20-50% of their initially stated expectation.
The big downside of these types of sites for me is that they requires way more effort and patience in communication and initial date setup than scheduling with an escort. It's also necessary to figure out what she is and isn't comfortable with before meeting in person. Some are adamant about "not being an escort", so you might run into some 3-dates rules and other conditions like that. I usually pass and move on to the next one immediately if I get any indication of this sort of thing.
As far as drama goes, it's been surprisingly drama-free so far. I'm very careful in choosing who I meet though.
[QUOTE=Orbits;2218427]Deep pockets certainly help (same as with just about anything else). Mine could use a lot more depth, but even with relatively limited resources, these sites can work. I'm not spending any more now than I was when I was seeing Alexis the Retired 3-5 times a month. In fact, it's actually less. It's not nearly as bad as it may seem if you're just looking at their stated expectations. They'll list anything there -- 5 k, 10 k / month. Doesn't hurt to ask, I guess. But I'm pretty sure very few of them ever get that. Well, maybe in places like NYC, Chicago, Bay area they might. For most of them, what they ask for and what they will happily accept are two very different things. This is a very rough estimate, but I'd say most are good with getting 20-50% of their initially stated expectation.
The big downside of these types of sites for me is that they requires way more effort and patience in communication and initial date setup than scheduling with an escort. It's also necessary to figure out what she is and isn't comfortable with before meeting in person. Some are adamant about "not being an escort", so you might run into some 3-dates rules and other conditions like that. I usually pass and move on to the next one immediately if I get any indication of this sort of thing.
As far as drama goes, it's been surprisingly drama-free so far. I'm very careful in choosing who I meet though.[/QUOTE]Any advice on which od those sites has worked the best for you in this area? Thanks.
[QUOTE=RJHunter;2218694]Any advice on which od those sites has worked the best for you in this area? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I live between Nashville and KNoxville so I check out both Cities. I have found Seeking Arrangement to be the best website (navigation wise) and with better variety of women.
Overall I have found being a SD is much more time consuming and lots more drama than Providers. I started seeing Providers 3 years ago. I would get in, get out and not think about them after I left. I saw a few Providers multiple times (Alexis 1987, Chloe Cummings and a few SBL ladies). After two years I thought I would try a SB and see if I liked it. I found a 22 year old college girl in my town and we started seeing each other. We agreed on roughly $1,000 month for 1-2 meetings a week with sex (this was about what I was spending on Providers so I was ok). Within two months she was pregnant with her ex BF and then the drama started. She had a rough pregnancy and couldn't work, she dropped out of school, had to make rent, had a car payment, yada, yada, yada. She was always needing additional money for things and when I didn't oblige, she always got upset and threw a tantrum. It is a ton of drama, but you also get more emotionally than you would from a Provider. Kind of like a girlfriend lite LOL.
I have done 4-5 Meet and Greets with ladies that didn't go any further than the first Meeting / Lunch.
I am now seeing a girl every other week I met off Seeking Arrangement. It's almost like a P4 P, but it is way cheaper. So far we have fucked twice and I paid her $60 and $80. She is great in bed, looks good and so far no drama. So far LOL.
Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Gibson1970;2218965]I have found Seeking Arrangement to be the best website (navigation wise) and with better variety of women.[/QUOTE]SA seems to work well for me too. Lots of profiles, simple and easy to use interface. I tried a couple of other sites. Sugardaddyforme was ok, sugardaddyfinder was totally useless.
[QUOTE=Gibson1970;2218965]I live between Nashville and KNoxville so I check out both Cities. I have found Seeking Arrangement to be the best website (navigation wise) and with better variety of women.
Overall I have found being a SD is much more time consuming and lots more drama than Providers. I started seeing Providers 3 years ago. I would get in, get out and not think about them after I left. I saw a few Providers multiple times (Alexis 1987, Chloe Cummings and a few SBL ladies). After two years I thought I would try a SB and see if I liked it. I found a 22 year old college girl in my town and we started seeing each other. We agreed on roughly $1,000 month for 1-2 meetings a week with sex (this was about what I was spending on Providers so I was ok). Within two months she was pregnant with her ex BF and then the drama started. She had a rough pregnancy and couldn't work, she dropped out of school, had to make rent, had a car payment, yada, yada, yada. She was always needing additional money for things and when I didn't oblige, she always got upset and threw a tantrum. It is a ton of drama, but you also get more emotionally than you would from a Provider. Kind of like a girlfriend lite LOL.
I have done 4-5 Meet and Greets with ladies that didn't go any further than the first Meeting / Lunch.
I am now seeing a girl every other week I met off Seeking Arrangement. It's almost like a P4 P, but it is way cheaper. So far we have fucked twice and I paid her $60 and $80. She is great in bed, looks good and so far no drama. So far LOL.
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]That does help. Thanks.
Hope y"all don't mind me butting in. I do SD4 M. Not sure if this thread is exclusively to talk about SA. Let me know.
Here's another site to search. Although my experience so far is you'll see a lot of the same ladies again.
[URL]Whatsyourprice.com[/URL]
Are these understood to be exclusive arrangements (on the part of the ladies) or might they have arrangements with more than one guy? Or does it matter as long as you are getting what you want?
[QUOTE=Orbits;2218427]Deep pockets certainly help (same as with just about anything else). Mine could use a lot more depth, but even with relatively limited resources, these sites can work. I'm not spending any more now than I was when I was seeing Alexis the Retired 3-5 times a month. In fact, it's actually less. It's not nearly as bad as it may seem if you're just looking at their stated expectations. They'll list anything there -- 5 k, 10 k / month. Doesn't hurt to ask, I guess. But I'm pretty sure very few of them ever get that. Well, maybe in places like NYC, Chicago, Bay area they might. For most of them, what they ask for and what they will happily accept are two very different things. This is a very rough estimate, but I'd say most are good with getting 20-50% of their initially stated expectation.
The big downside of these types of sites for me is that they requires way more effort and patience in communication and initial date setup than scheduling with an escort. It's also necessary to figure out what she is and isn't comfortable with before meeting in person. Some are adamant about "not being an escort", so you might run into some 3-dates rules and other conditions like that. I usually pass and move on to the next one immediately if I get any indication of this sort of thing.
As far as drama goes, it's been surprisingly drama-free so far. I'm very careful in choosing who I meet though.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gooshpop;2221929]Are these understood to be exclusive arrangements (on the part of the ladies) or might they have arrangements with more than one guy? Or does it matter as long as you are getting what you want?[/QUOTE]Might they have arrangements with more than one guy? Only if they're lucky!
It's all about the cash, guy.
I hope not or else that website I posted earlier is going to get me in trouble. LOL Speaking of SD4 M, I just got kissed by a girl from the Ukraine. I think we have a shot.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2220041]Hope y"all don't mind me butting in. I do SD4 M. Not sure if this thread is exclusively to talk about SA. Let me know.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gooshpop;2221929]Are these understood to be exclusive arrangements (on the part of the ladies) or might they have arrangements with more than one guy? Or does it matter as long as you are getting what you want?[/QUOTE]I've never asked for exclusivity with any of them, it's not something that matters to me. I think it's one of those things that's easy for them to agree to if someone asks for it. But would they actually take it seriously? I wouldn't bet on it.
[QUOTE=Orbits;2222602]I've never asked for exclusivity with any of them, it's not something that matters to me. I think it's one of those things that's easy for them to agree to if someone asks for it. But would they actually take it seriously? I wouldn't bet on it.[/QUOTE]I require my SB's to be exclusive as I only have one SB at a time. Do I know for sure she isn't seeing someone else. No.
Just make sure you both are clear on what you expect from each other up front.
"How do you know which ones to contact?" I've gotten this question a few times, and while I don't claim to know the correct answer, my own answer is straightforward -- I don't. On SA and other SD / SB sites, I send messages to every girl I find attractive. I completely ignore their stated financial expectations, and mostly ignore whatever else they write on their profile (although if it says something like "take care of me, and I'll take care of you", that's usually a very good sign). You never know when the supposedly 10 k / month ones are actually just kidding about that, and it turns out they're perfectly fine with 100/ date. The one I'm seeing regularly now is a perfect example: asked for 2 k / month initially, took 200/ date, 4-5 times a month.
This reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask: what is reasonable to offer for this area? I started out a couple of years back, thinking I needed to be well above escort rates to get any interest from SBs. But recently, I tried 200/ date and 100/ date, for multi-hour dates. Got lots of interest even at 100 (which was very surprising). So I have no idea what a reasonable offer around here is. Any thoughts?
[QUOTE=Orbits;2225044]This reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask: what is reasonable to offer for this area? I started out a couple of years back, thinking I needed to be well above escort rates to get any interest from SBs. But recently, I tried 200/ date and 100/ date, for multi-hour dates. Got lots of interest even at 100 (which was very surprising). So I have no idea what a reasonable offer around here is. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]This is Knoxville, TN, and not a place like Atlanta or Vegas. The half hour rates should simply be ignored. It's hard to imagine a provider in this area commanding more than 150/ hr for the first visit and then it will likely go to 100/ hr after repeat visits. It doesn't matter whether she is a young, spinner or a a mature, MILF. One of the benefits of the SB arrangement is that the provider should be able to count on a certain amount of assistance per month. If you agree on 1 K / month or whatever, spend multiple hours not engaged in intercourse, probably provide extra assistance by addressing her emergency monetary needs, provide her with gifts, take her traveling, buy her school books, etc. On top of that, you're more focused on the dates and cultivating the arrangement instead of having the clock watched. It really boils down to the rapport that you have with the provider and acknowledge that the terms of the arrangement are subject to adjustment based on your mutual needs. Most success can be found with girls new to providing services, UTRs, college girls, or ladies who are not the bpage type or seasoned providers. If you are looking for exclusivity (or the illusion of that), be prepared to pay much more for that privilege. If it equals out to 100-150/ visit, that should be right for the little sleepy town of Knoxville.
Happy Hunting,
MilfMan.
This is an area in which I have some expertise and long-term experience.
As some of you know, I prefer massage, and AMPs are the going thing here. However, I use AMPs and other massage providers as a relief valve between relationships. For the last 20 years, some of those relationships have been conventional, and some have been from SA.
SA is an odd world, made possible only by the Internet. Here are the categories I have found to be true, and my guestimates of the percentages of SA women making them up.
1. P2 P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 15%.
2. P2 P providers just looking for another venue 10%.
3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 45%.
4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.
5. Married women. 5%.
6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.
7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. Unknown.
There are exceptions. And there are certainly members who are in several categories at once.
I have recently re-entered the SA world, and it does take more effort, as I am after some type of connection, not just sex. It takes effort to get to the category you want (mine are in 4 and 6; I do not have funds for 7, and they are not looking to come to Knoxpatch anyway.).
I agree with the comment that you should ignore the stated goals (not many girls in Knoxville can command 10 K per month.) In this, as in all relationships, looking good, being respectful, and being honest go a long way.
I am in the midst of working something out with one woman after several months search. I have opinions on many of the recent active members if anyone wants to PM me.
Seeks.
Thanks all! Appreciate the good info. I'm curious to know which SD / SB site you think is best. I'm borderline on SA and SD4 M.
I made a profile a few weeks ago. Just finally committed to it with my wallet. Met my first this morning, publically. According to her, I was first she met with from site also, who really knows. Nerves on both our parts. Ended a couple hour meet / greet with her stating " Basically I'm agreeing to an affair with you for money", I said yes, she said ok. Pretty much agreed to $. 5 per hour no matter what we're doing. Time will tell. I'll try to keep board updated. BTW, young 30's, curvy, not bbw by any stretch, smelled wonderful, pretty face, easy to talk with.
[QUOTE=SeeksEasy;2226187]This is an area in which I have some expertise and long-term experience.
As some of you know, I prefer massage, and AMPs are the going thing here. However, I use AMPs and other massage providers as a relief valve between relationships. For the last 20 years, some of those relationships have been conventional, and some have been from SA.
SA is an odd world, made possible only by the Internet. Here are the categories I have found to be true, and my guestimates of the percentages of SA women making them up.
1. P2 P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 15%.
2. P2 P providers just looking for another venue 10%.
3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 45%.
4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.
5. Married women. 5%.
6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.
7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. Unknown.
There are exceptions. And there are certainly members who are in several categories at once.
I have recently re-entered the SA world, and it does take more effort, as I am after some type of connection, not just sex. It takes effort to get to the category you want (mine are in 4 and 6; I do not have funds for 7, and they are not looking to come to Knoxpatch anyway.).
I agree with the comment that you should ignore the stated goals (not many girls in Knoxville can command 10 K per month.) In this, as in all relationships, looking good, being respectful, and being honest go a long way.
I am in the midst of working something out with one woman after several months search. I have opinions on many of the recent active members if anyone wants to PM me.
Seeks.[/QUOTE]Sign me up for the 5% of married women who just want to have fun. Ladies, I am looking for entertainment this week. Send me a PM if you are interested.
Nick.
SA is a gold mine with lots of different types of arrangements available. Dates range from just dinner and respect (no $) up too $$$ for the date. There is no way I would do an hourly charge. Most of my dates are 2 hrs up to overnight.
[QUOTE=Jem411;2229365]I made a profile a few weeks ago. Just finally committed to it with my wallet. Met my first this morning, publically. According to her, I was first she met with from site also, who really knows. Nerves on both our parts. Ended a couple hour meet / greet with her stating " Basically I'm agreeing to an affair with you for money", I said yes, she said ok. Pretty much agreed to $. 5 per hour no matter what we're doing. Time will tell. I'll try to keep board updated. BTW, young 30's, curvy, not bbw by any stretch, smelled wonderful, pretty face, easy to talk with.[/QUOTE]
After a lot of effort, my results on SA for my first month have been less than stellar.
1) Youngish lady of color met for lunch and maybe more. I (yet again) made a big mistake, as her coy pics didn't reveal a largish figure, which my stupid monkey limbic system just does not respond to. She was nice and willing. Oh well.
2) MILF trying to get back on her feet. Met a couple times but ultimately I bailed due to hygiene concerns, recovering roommates, and imminent drama. She also was pressuring me to buy her a car. I think she belongs in that 45% 'desperate' category that SeeksEasy nicely documented in his post.
3) I almost met up with an expensive not-a-provider provider, but I was pretty sure it was going to be a let down compared to the actual providers around here, and the hassle of getting a room, and this. And that. And. Not worth the effort.
I'm still checking the board these last couple of weeks, but am not getting nearly as much response, possibly due to new competition from you bastards (just kidding, more power to you).
All-in-all it's been a lot of effort and very little pay off. If I was a bottom feeder (not that, you sicko), there seems to be lots of desperation to take advantage of, but that's not what I'm looking for. Of course YMMV.
[QUOTE=CaneBay;2230236]There is no way I would do an hourly charge.[/QUOTE]I'd tend to agree, I can't think of any advantages that an hourly rate arrangement would have. But I suppose there might be some that I'm not thinking of. A weekly / monthly or even a per-date arrangement means long dates, no need for timekeeping / clockwatching, a more relaxed pace. Those are pretty much all the biggest reasons why I like them, so going hourly seems like a bad idea to me.
[QUOTE=CaneBay;2230236]SA is a gold mine with lots of different types of arrangements available. Dates range from just dinner and respect (no $) up too $$$ for the date. There is no way I would do an hourly charge. Most of my dates are 2 hrs up to overnight.[/QUOTE]I was averaging. We have agreed to $5 monthly. With 10 - 15 hours of meetings. I'm sure it could progress to spending a night, but not right off. What would I tell my wife. I'm actually waiting to meet number two right now. Typical, I show up 10 minutes early and she's already 10 minutes late. More to be revealed. And yes it is time consuming.
Chat about individual girls on SA here? Links to the site aren't visible unless you are a member and logged in. Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone has seen this girl: "Jetsetter" She looks pretty hot but wanted a steep per meet arrangement of $850! Said she got $5 k / month in her last arrangement which, I'm guessing, had to be in LA!
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea27a1e6/view[/URL]
[QUOTE=Jem411;2230526]I was averaging. We have agreed to $5 monthly. With 10 - 15 hours of meetings. I'm sure it could progress to spending a night, but not right off. What would I tell my wife. I'm actually waiting to meet number two right now. Typical, I show up 10 minutes early and she's already 10 minutes late. More to be revealed. And yes it is time consuming.[/QUOTE]Do you mean $500 or $5,000 monthly?
[QUOTE=SeeksEasy;2226187]This is an area in which I have some expertise and long-term experience.
As some of you know, I prefer massage, and AMPs are the going thing here. However, I use AMPs and other massage providers as a relief valve between relationships. For the last 20 years, some of those relationships have been conventional, and some have been from SA.
SA is an odd world, made possible only by the Internet. Here are the categories I have found to be true, and my guestimates of the percentages of SA women making them up.
1. P2P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 15%.
2. P2P providers just looking for another venue 10%.
3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 45%.
4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.
5. Married women. 5%.
6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.
7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. Unknown.
There are exceptions. And there are certainly members who are in several categories at once.
I have recently re-entered the SA world, and it does take more effort, as I am after some type of connection, not just sex. It takes effort to get to the category you want (mine are in 4 and 6; I do not have funds for 7, and they are not looking to come to Knoxpatch anyway.).
I agree with the comment that you should ignore the stated goals (not many girls in Knoxville can command 10 K per month.) In this, as in all relationships, looking good, being respectful, and being honest go a long way.
I am in the midst of working something out with one woman after several months search. I have opinions on many of the recent active members if anyone wants to PM me.
Seeks.[/QUOTE]Here is my estimate for los angeles.
1. P2 P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 20%.
2. P2 P providers just looking for another venue 30%.
3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 20%.
4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.
5. Married women. 1%.
6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.
7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. 9%.
The rates vary from $ (better have some game) $$ (no game required, girl quality up to a 9) $$$ to $$$$ (for real Hollywood 10's and GPS girls).
I mostly date 1's and 3's. I hit up the 2's occasionally in between. The 4's are too old for me. The 6's and 7's I cant afford. Never date a 5, no reason to.
[QUOTE=RJHunter;2230687]Do you mean $500 or $5,000 monthly?[/QUOTE]2nd one last night went well. We're getting a room for this evening. She wants a fuck buddy. Agreed to $4 monthly. Also hundred. I have a lunch date with a 3rd one today. She's seeking 800 a month. Got build the herd so the culling can begin.
[QUOTE=Jem411;2231175]2nd one last night went well. We're getting a room for this evening. She wants a fuck buddy. Agreed to $4 monthly. Also hundred. I have a lunch date with a 3rd one today. She's seeking 800 a month. Got build the herd so the culling can begin.[/QUOTE]So you must be the lucky stiff to whom all the ladies are replying. My first contact protocol is clearly deficient.
Do tell your secrets, oh master of the art!
[QUOTE=ThermoNuclear;2231224]So you must be the lucky stiff to whom all the ladies are replying. My first contact protocol is clearly deficient.
Do tell your secrets, oh master of the art![/QUOTE]My first message usually goes like this. My name is* I saw your pictures and profile and was intrigued. What are you looking for from a SD?
Then my response to their reply is below.
I'll be blunt, I'm looking for a female to spend time with, indoors and outdoors, who will respect my time, accept my gifts, and share herself with me. I'm not trying to be rude, just to the point. I have to assume that you are somewhat wanting the same, or you wouldn't be on this site. I'm at a point in my life that I have free time and resources that I want to share with someone. I'm not all business all the time, I'm actually easy to talk to and somewhat shy. Just emailing or texting gives me courage I don't normally have. So. Your turn.
So far it's working. Have a room for one tonight, taking another out of town Monday. Eating lunch with a 3rd in a few. It has caused a lot of texting and talking on the phone. My day flies by. Just like the days from college. Juggle, juggle, juggle.
LA percentages interesting.
I am trying to avoid 1, 2, and 3, and may increase by #3 percentage by a lot.
I budget about 2 k per month all in.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2230709]Here is my estimate for los angeles.
1. P2 P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 20%.
2. P2 P providers just looking for another venue 30%.
3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 20%.
4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.
5. Married women. 1%.
6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.
7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. 9%.
The rates vary from $ (better have some game) $$ (no game required, girl quality up to a 9) $$$ to $$$$ (for real Hollywood 10's and GPS girls).
I mostly date 1's and 3's. I hit up the 2's occasionally in between. The 4's are too old for me. The 6's and 7's I cant afford. Never date a 5, no reason to.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SeeksEasy;2231319]LA percentages interesting.
I am trying to avoid 1, 2, and 3, and may increase by #3 percentage by a lot.
I budget about 2 k per month all in.[/QUOTE]I budget around 1. 5 k a month and focus on #4 ("divorced") - they tend to be the most sane / drama free (in my experience at least, for what it's worth). Many 4's are in their 20's, and often very attractive. The p2 p ones can also be a lot of fun and mostly problem-free. At the slightest sign of them being in the "dysfunction" category, I run like hell. Not worth it. Google Voice is a big help here. Very easy to block numbers.
I'd like to add one more category:
8) bored college girl seeking summer income. No idea as far as percentage goes, but it's mostly seasonal. Look for them starting around mid-April and through late-July or so. They mostly just want to make some spending cash over the summer, and don't feel like getting some crappy minimum-wage retail job. But if in addition to income you can also offer access to any kind of summer entertainment (pool, lake / boat, beach, etc.) that will help a lot.
[QUOTE=BigBubbaBobby;2230650]Chat about individual girls on SA here? Links to the site aren't visible unless you are a member and logged in. Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone has seen this girl: "Jetsetter" She looks pretty hot but wanted a steep per meet arrangement of $850! Said she got $5 k / month in her last arrangement which, I'm guessing, had to be in LA!
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea27a1e6/view[/URL][/QUOTE]I didn't actually meet her, something about her profile / look / way of communicating just sets off red flags for me. But I can tell you that a couple of month ago, her per meet request was 500.
My first sexual event with someone from SA was a blast. No escort that I have been with, 49 on p411, quite a few local, was any better. So clean. She's 42. Excellent BBBJ. Loved receiving DATY. Then climbed aboard without a cover (kinda concerned about that) and sweated up the sheets. The pounding she gave and then took was what dreams are made of. Definitely worth the hassle of weeding through the high ballers and scammers. Meeting again in morning. If Monday works out like this, I will have committed to 1100 a month for around 16 - 18 pops a month. Pretty good deal I think. Hope I can handle it. Yee hah.
[QUOTE=Jem411;2231811]My first sexual event with someone from SA was a blast. No escort that I have been with, 49 on p411, quite a few local, was any better. So clean. She's 42. Excellent BBBJ. Loved receiving DATY. Then climbed aboard without a cover (kinda concerned about that) and sweated up the sheets. The pounding she gave and then took was what dreams are made of. Definitely worth the hassle of weeding through the high ballers and scammers. Meeting again in morning. If Monday works out like this, I will have committed to 1100 a month for around 16 - 18 pops a month. Pretty good deal I think. Hope I can handle it. Yee hah.[/QUOTE]That is a nice deal for under 70 roses per pop. I know numerous ladies on SA for various reasons. A few of them make about 4-5 agreements per month, just like the one you have entered into, to meet various financial needs and that adds up much faster than flipping burgers for sure. One of them gets a bloke handling the car payment and insurance, another handling cable / phone / internet and utilities, a dude for rent, and a baller on a budget to chip in for spending money (among other needs). It's a win-win for all parties involved.
Happy Hunting,
MilfMan.
[QUOTE=Jem411;2231312]My first message usually goes like this. My name is* I saw your pictures and profile and was intrigued. What are you looking for from a SD?
Then my response to their reply is below.
I'll be blunt, I'm looking for a female to spend time with, indoors and outdoors, who will respect my time, accept my gifts, and share herself with me. I'm not trying to be rude, just to the point. I have to assume that you are somewhat wanting the same, or you wouldn't be on this site. I'm at a point in my life that I have free time and resources that I want to share with someone. I'm not all business all the time, I'm actually easy to talk to and somewhat shy. Just emailing or texting gives me courage I don't normally have. So. Your turn.
So far it's working. Have a room for one tonight, taking another out of town Monday. Eating lunch with a 3rd in a few. It has caused a lot of texting and talking on the phone. My day flies by. Just like the days from college. Juggle, juggle, juggle.[/QUOTE]I have given this away before on another thread. I have 2 intro letters. The first one is a straight to the point sexy one tailored to my specific needs. Here is the more general one. Honestly I have more success with my sexy letter, but this one is good if you like to start up a convo and slowly get into their heads (and hopefully their pants).
Hi. Every girl on here is looking for 3 things to varying degrees.
1 - financial support.
2 - physical support.
3 - emotional support.
The greater the need for reason 1, the less attention is paid to reasons 2 and 3.
The greater the need for reason 2, the less attention is paid to reasons 1 and 3.
The greater the need for reason 3, the less attention is paid to reasons 1 and 2.
I try to provide a balance between all three reasons as a basis to meet someone. Enough money to say I am not trying to get something for nothing. Real Chemistry. I also have an understanding and giving nature combined with years of experience in taking care of girls and anticipating their needs.
I don't judge what anyone wants and I don't pretend to be able to meet everyones expectations. I use SD4 M as more of a regular dating site but to meet younger girls that want some help with their bills, have sexual needs and fantasies that can be spontaneously explored in a safe and nurturing environment, and with someone that could be a real friend even if its mostly for the financial and physical benefits. But a friend nonetheless.
Whats your motivation?
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2231929]I have given this away before on another thread. I have 2 intro letters. The first one is a straight to the point sexy one tailored to my specific needs. Here is the more general one. Honestly I have more success with my sexy letter, but this one is good if you like to start up a convo and slowly get into their heads (and hopefully their pants).
Hi. Every girl on here is looking for 3 things to varying degrees.
1 - financial support.
2 - physical support.
3 - emotional support.
The greater the need for reason 1, the less attention is paid to reasons 2 and 3.
The greater the need for reason 2, the less attention is paid to reasons 1 and 3.
The greater the need for reason 3, the less attention is paid to reasons 1 and 2.
I try to provide a balance between all three reasons as a basis to meet someone. Enough money to say I am not trying to get something for nothing. Real Chemistry. I also have an understanding and giving nature combined with years of experience in taking care of girls and anticipating their needs.
I don't judge what anyone wants and I don't pretend to be able to meet everyones expectations. I use SD4 M as more of a regular dating site but to meet younger girls that want some help with their bills, have sexual needs and fantasies that can be spontaneously explored in a safe and nurturing environment, and with someone that could be a real friend even if its mostly for the financial and physical benefits. But a friend nonetheless.
Whats your motivation?[/QUOTE]I'm spending $4-5 K a month on escorts. Don't get me wrong, I like the variety. This is just more fun at the moment. Much more of a chase and conquest situation. Probably more risky. The money. The challenge. The excitement. Hell it's just fun.
[QUOTE=Orbits;2231511]I didn't actually meet her, something about her profile / look / way of communicating just sets off red flags for me. But I can tell you that a couple of month ago, her per meet request was 500.[/QUOTE]Yes, agreed. With that kind of high dollar ask, you would expect her to be able to string a few sentences together that don't use text slang and such.
She quoted me 500 last week and quickly dropped to 300. I ended up not booking. Too many rules and she limited the time. No thanks.
[QUOTE=BigBubbaBobby;2230650]Chat about individual girls on SA here? Links to the site aren't visible unless you are a member and logged in. Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone has seen this girl: "Jetsetter" She looks pretty hot but wanted a steep per meet arrangement of $850! Said she got $5 k / month in her last arrangement which, I'm guessing, had to be in LA!
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