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Been monitoring for a while and finally have a reason to post. Picked up a BSW, looks about 5-6 for a SW, about 30yo, approx 5'6'' med build on N. Main near Hudson about 1am last night. What attracted me to her was her dress. Short, red dress, very shiny. Like going to a nightclub. She said her name was Evelyn, but to call her Eve. Plus all the other SW I had seen so far that night were heavier than me. And I'm 6' 270#. LOL.
Since was just barely off Main, and had seen LEO earlier. Just had her get in quick and drove off before discussing anything. After the typical checks and intro Q&A, she asked what I wanted. I said only that I had 30. She asked to see it. I carry my hobby money in my money clip. So only had a 20 and a 10 plus a 5 and some 1s in case I tipped. And pulled it out and showed her the 20 and 10. Then back in my pocket. That was mistake.
While directing me to her spot, she started rubbing me, asking what I got in my pants. I was wary, but rubbing while driving is not unusual. I did not feel her pickpocket me. After a minute, she dropped her lighter and it went on the backseat floor. So she acted like she was getting it. Stretching between the seats. I thought unusual. But nothing back there for her to steal. I took the chance to check my pocket. And all money gone. She was good because the money clip itself, and a credit card the money was wrapped around, were still there. I guess she figured I would go ape-shit over missing CC. I checked only other thing of value I had. Cell phone in my belt holster. And I still had it, too.
I confronted her over the money. She tried to say it must have fallen out of my pocket into the seat. And protested she didn't have any pockets to put it in. I said it wasn't a big deal. That I was probably going to give her the extra 10 anyway if the BJ was to my liking. But said that was a good way to get herself hurt. If not with someone like me. Or if money clip had more than my "play" money.
I still expected the service at this point, and she had me park in a dark spot on a side street. Then she opened the door to get out. I grabbed her wrist and said "HEY, what's going on? I said you can keep the money, I just want my BJ. " She said if I didn't turn her loose, she would start screaming. I figured was better to cut my losses at this point. And not make it worse. So I just drove off.
Anyone else ran into this scammer? Watch out for her.
Any tips on how I could have handled it better?
[QUOTE=Ohio Scrabble]Been monitoring for a while and finally have a reason to post. Picked up a BSW, *** I said only that I had 30. She asked to see it. I carry my hobby money in my money clip. So only had a 20 and a 10 plus a 5 and some 1s in case I tipped. And pulled it out and showed her the 20 and 10. Then back in my pocket. That was mistake. *** she started rubbing me, asking what I got in my pants. I was wary, but rubbing while driving is not unusual. I did not feel her pickpocket me. *** Any tips on how I could have handled it better?[/QUOTE]
Did Ohio Scrabble have the money/credit card in his right pant pocket (on her side of him)?
What about having a $20 under the driver's visor and the rest in his left pant pocket?
Unless Ohio Scrabble was driving a junker, why agree to show her any money? I mean, any guy driving a decent car should be good for what this trip into the dark should cost.
Yes, moneyclip in front right pocket. Just normal for me, but will change after this lesson. In dozens of encounters had not had problem like this before. Only read about them. Hence the precautions I took, but now realize they were not enough to prevent 0$ loss. But at least she only got 40, didn't get my wad, which was in my wallet stashed away.
I like the idea of putting it in the visor after asked to show it. Obvious, then, if she tries to take it. Car not a junker, but not that nice either. I leave the good car at home and take my economy car out cruising. Just on small chance I am unlucky with LEO and they want to take it. It's obvious to me now, after the fact, her asking to see it was just ruse to know where it was.
I am pretty sure her plan from beginning was pure cash&dash. No intent of giving service. That's why I gave her name and best description I could. For others to watch out for this specific girl. I assume that even if she couldn't pickpocket me, she would have insisted on cash first, before service. I don't do that. In few situations like that in past, I agreed to put it on dash. I think even if I had put it above my visor, she would have grabbed it. Then I'm still at same point. She has cash and is trying to get out of car.
Any advice on what should have done at the point I found money missing, and she was still in my car. Still driving looking for a spot? I figure it comes down to who's more afraid of LEO showing up over a disturbance. Her or me. And I lose more there. But anyone got a suggestion. No violence, of course.
Thanks in advance for future advice. Be safe, and watch out for this thief. I won't even give her the dignity of calling her a providor.
[QUOTE=Ohio Scrabble] *** Any advice on what should have done at the point I found money missing, and she was still in my car. Still driving looking for a spot? *** [/QUOTE]
Long answer to a simple question:
I think for mongers looking for a woman, when they spot her, when she gets in, when they are driving to a spot, etc., ------
I think for an internet date, contacting the woman to provide references, scheduling, making the phone call to get the location, calling to get the room number, knocking on the door, etc., -------
Regardless where we are in the process, the answer is the same -------
When something/anything happens that is off-script and is a surprise, the guy should withdraw and escape. That trumps all other interests.
We can think of money we will be leaving behind we could try to reclaim or other things to do instead, but the bottom line is this thing is not going as planned and the greater interest is to get the Hell out of here.
When Ohio Scrabble noticed money gone I suggest it would have been better to pull over, say "Sorry, I've changed my mind." "Here's your money." Let her out and drive off without her even knowing why.
Anything else could have lead to en emotional situation. Nobody knows how she would react, if she had a knife, who might be watching. Too many unknowns. That situation is unstable. Ohio Scrabble getting her out of the car is the only thing he can do that has no unknown consequences and brings stability.
Had a cash and dash Sat night.
Without details, her name was Jeannie and she had red hair.
[QUOTE=Mr Lucky]Had a cash and dash Sat night.
Without details, her name was Jeannie and she had red hair.[/QUOTE]Well without more details, your report is somewhat usless to any of us on here.
The idea of "reporting" anything on here is to HELP one another.
[QUOTE=Mr Lucky]Had a cash and dash Sat night.
Without details, her name was Jeannie and she had red hair.[/QUOTE]Agree with Pleasuregiver, need details to "boycott" this scammer.
Black or White girl, stroll area - street and approx cross street, Ht, Wt, age at minimum?
Oh - and as one just scammed, too - sorry about your experience.
[QUOTE=Golfcart]Long answer to a simple question:
Regardless where we are in the process, the answer is the same.
When something/anything happens that is off-script and is a surprise, the guy should withdraw and escape. That trumps all other interests.
We can think of money we will be leaving behind we could try to reclaim or other things to do instead, but the bottom line is this thing is not going as planned and the greater interest is to get the Hell out of here.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Goflcart,
I don't feel so bad about what happened now. And good advice I will remember.
My mindset had been. How could I have salvaged the situation and still gotten what I want since she already had my money.
My new mindset. If the SP doesn't seem to be a straightforward pay for play girl, with only the price being up for haggling, get out of the situation and find another one.
I always feel so vulnerable, to both LEO and crime, cruising for and picking up SWs. Which is why I prefer the escort/advertised services websites. Even though higher priced, I don't feel near the risk. But my current economic situation puts them out of price range for the time being.
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Just wanted to throw this out there and am going to post a few places. Usually have luck on the chat line but not Friday night. Chated with Crystal. Thought all was cool. Got to her place on Philadelphia and once inside realised she had tried to rip me off year ago. Said I had to go to get cell from car and she actually blocked the door and wouldn't let me go. Had to actually push her out of the way. Followed me to car and said she was calling cops. I have two numbers she called from. Just saying beware, beware, beware. She is nothing but a scam artist. Figured she was phone with her boyfriend or what ever muscle she had around. Now ya know and knowing is half the battle.
[QUOTE=Sgorka;1176636]Just wanted to throw this out there and am going to post a few places. Usually have luck on the chat line but not Friday night. Chated with Crystal. Thought all was cool. Got to her place on Philadelphia and once inside realised she had tried to rip me off year ago. Said I had to go to get cell from car and she actually blocked the door and wouldn't let me go. Had to actually push her out of the way. Followed me to car and said she was calling cops. I have two numbers she called from. Just saying beware, beware, beware. She is nothing but a scam artist. Figured she was phone with her boyfriend or what ever muscle she had around. Now ya know and knowing is half the battle.[/QUOTE]Is a white girl who lives on the West side of Dayton?
[QUOTE=Sgorka;1176636]Just wanted to throw this out there and am going to post a few places. Usually have luck on the chat line but not Friday night. Chated with Crystal. Thought all was cool. Got to her place on Philadelphia and once inside realised she had tried to rip me off year ago. Said I had to go to get cell from car and she actually blocked the door and wouldn't let me go. Had to actually push her out of the way. Followed me to car and said she was calling cops. I have two numbers she called from. Just saying beware, beware, beware. She is nothing but a scam artist. Figured she was phone with her boyfriend or what ever muscle she had around. Now ya know and knowing is half the battle.[/QUOTE]Can you just imagine if she had come to YOU? And she was THAT aggressive? You would be doomed, man.
[QUOTE=Cincyeast52;1177176]Can you just imagine if she had come to YOU? And she was THAT aggressive? You would be doomed, man.[/QUOTE]If this is the girl I think it is. She has never turned a trick.
She is a pure "ripp off" artist.
She is ONLY on the chat lines (LiveLinks).
She says in her ad she is just looking for some adult fun.
She acts like she wants you to come over and pick her up and take her out.
She'll tell you she has kids and needs 20 bucks for a babbysitter down the street.
She has you drive her there or whatever.
Then she has you give her the money to pay the babysitter.
She goes inside with your money and doesn't come back out.
Why some many guys fall for this. I don't know. But they do.
This girl is a total rip off $.2 for a piss poor massage and wants to upsell. 5 for a BJ which will never happen total rip off STAY AWAY.
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