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Stopped by my fav LAMP last week. Saw Miss "F" for the first time, though she says she's been working there for years. F is a tall latina, medium build, with nice, high tits. Pleasant face, but not a knockout.
She dropped her skirt, pulled up her top and pulled down her bra, but kept her boots on. Then came the usual order of things: cbj, cg, ds, mish to complete.
No greek, she won't for any price.
All in all a fun time. I'll repeat.
[QUOTE=Da Bot]Stopped by my fav LAMP last week. Saw Miss "F" for the first time, though she says she's been working there for years. F is a tall latina, medium build, with nice, high tits. Pleasant face, but not a knockout.
She dropped her skirt, pulled up her top and pulled down her bra, but kept her boots on. Then came the usual order of things: cbj, cg, ds, mish to complete.
No greek, she won't for any price.
All in all a fun time. I'll repeat.[/QUOTE]Hey Da Bot, Watta Bot the $ ?
Door? Time? Tip? Any DATY posibilities?
Thanks,
3 Pops
Picked up a LA Weekly last week and looked up the AMP's ads when all of a sudden I found a familiar name with a familiar address: Best Spa on V.N. Blvd. near Parthenia.
Whoa! Between Feb. of 1998 and November of 2001 I left gallons of love juice there on a twice-a-week basis. That was until the talent declined and I also found West Valley Therapy & Topanga Therapy in Chatsworth at the same time.
So I rang them up and the MMS confirmed it was the same location. Told her I use to come there a lot in the old days and she asked me to come again. Asked her if she was Korean and she said yes. Due to my recent horrible experiences at Hello Spa, I then asked her if she had YOUNG girls and she said NO!
I guess this may be another elderly, semi-retired Korean providers place like Hello Spa, but I can be mistaken. Did anyone already take one for the team?
They reopened on Jan 4th, according to their ad.
[QUOTE=FedEx]Picked up a LA Weekly last week and looked up the AMP's ads when all of a sudden I found a familiar name with a familiar address: Best Spa on V.N. Blvd. near Parthenia.
Whoa! Between Feb. of 1998 and November of 2001 I left gallons of love juice there on a twice-a-week basis. That was until the talent declined and I also found West Valley Therapy & Topanga Therapy in Chatsworth at the same time.
So I rang them up and the MMS confirmed it was the same location. Told her I use to come there a lot in the old days and she asked me to come again. Asked her if she was Korean and she said yes. Due to my recent horrible experiences at Hello Spa, I then asked her if she had YOUNG girls and she said NO!
I guess this may be another elderly, semi-retired Korean providers place like Hello Spa, but I can be mistaken. Did anyone already take one for the team?
They reopened on Jan 4th, according to their ad.[/QUOTE]I posted 2 reports on Hello Spa, the last one was so bad, it succeeded in turning me off completely to AMPs.
[QUOTE=Popncim]Hey Da Bot, Watta Bot the $ ?
Door? Time? Tip? Any DATY posibilities?
Thanks,
3 Pops[/QUOTE]
.5 entry fee for 30 min, $ for her.
It was early evening.
I don't do DATY, so I never asked.
I saw an ad for AMP in Valley, Saticoy and White Oak. I called, said Koreans, shower available, 40 door. I got there, they wouldn't let me see or pick. I should have left then. went for it. Older korean massage only. Fuck!
Yep - the current Valley AMP's can either offer older Koreans with overpriced rush FS or older Chinese providers with HJ if you are lucky. Same can be said for Simi Valley.
For good AMP action, you have to drive an hour west or an hour east these days...
[QUOTE=Blake 4]I posted 2 reports on Hello Spa, the last one was so bad, it succeeded in turning me off completely to AMPs.[/QUOTE]
Hit a little place from the weekly on Riverside in NH a bit east of Lank. Got a woman with a smokin body, but a 4-5 north of the neck. Asked her name, she thought about for a minute, then said Anney.
Nice little boobs, great nips, but she wouldn;t let me undo her jeans. Nuttin but another HJ. 2 jacksons for the door, one for the handshake.
AMPs aren't completely dead in the valley. Not what it was years ago, but...
Stopped by an AMP this week and saw miss "M". M is an Asian girl, probably in her late 20s. Not a knockout for looks, but I'd give her a 7. Great pair of bolt-ons, and a decent ass. A number of tattoos on various parts of her bod.
No preliminaries, she just comes into the room, says "hi" and strips (mamasan knows me and has told her I'm a regular). Then it's the usual drill: hj, cbj, cg, mish, ds. No objections as I put my hands anywhere I want as well. Finally greek ds to completion.
All in all a very pleasant experience for $.9 total. I'll repeat.
Brother,
Thats encouraging news. I too have faired a bit better of late while amping in da valley. Nothing like the old salad days for sure...
Oh damn, I need to build that time machine back to the summer of 2002 when over 35 AMP's were operating all over the SFV!
Okay, bro keep up the great vaugely detailed reports. And lets all remember that LE pressure in da valley is severe. So make them work and keep the real s**t off of the radar. PM the vital intel to trusted brothers only. Sorry, newbies but LE has made paranoia a permanent part of the game here in the once mighty valley...
Laterz, da I Sadist
...a couple of weeks ago. Hit my favorite LAMP and saw miss "S". S appears to be in her late 20s, with small tits and a round ass. S doesn't speak a whole lot of English, but we managed to communicate well enough. No competition for JLo, but I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating cookies. Face is in the 6-7 range.
Decent cbj, then to mish, cg, ds, back to mish to completion. She won't do greek; too bad, what with that great ass.
Total damage $.5. Not my best experience there, but if she were all that was available I wouldn't walk away.
Hit a new AMP today in the West Valley. Saw Ms. K.
Not the best looking gal, but pickin's are slim in the SFV. Finally was able to get a BJ and a little DATY in the Valley (but no FS). She has a GREAT body, nice sized naturals for for an Asian girl, great nips, really cute ass. Nice little furry Lulu.
Here's the crazy thing. She had no condoms (GOOD!) but managed to pull a Gladlock bag out of a drawer in the room! So not quite a CBJ, but a GLBJ.
The GL was seriously "keeping the freshness in" so finished with a HJ.
Total damage was a pair of Jacksons for the room and a Bengie for Ms. K. I know I paid too much, but WTF.
I think Glad bags cost more that condoms. You're probably getting the real full service that people are looking for.
Heard alot of places are scratching the condoms for saran wrap or latex strips, in order to avoid LE using the possesion as evidence against them in case of a bust. The mere possesion is not illegal, but when you keep a supply LE can use that to attempt to show a jury, that massages don't require rubbers, I belive le's harsh enforcment willl cause a rise in std's, but wtf just my 2 cents, seems if you want to play safe, you gotta always bring your own just in case, but remember married men, throw away the one's you don't use! I have heard the horrors of trying to explain them away from married guys!
This is just the difference between a KMP and a CMP. The Koreans will always have condoms, because they will never pass on an opportunity to make extra money (FS). The Chinese are more reserved.
Since I have taken my game from the no-action SFV to Oxnard & SGV, the difference is even more blatant. In the 'Nard - mostly Koreans - you never have to worry about bringing a cover (most girls here will offer you BBFS, but that's another story...). In any CMP, if you don't bring your own cover, the best you will get is a HJ or a saran wrap BJ (I got one at a Simi Valley CMP once and didn't like it). In my current favorite SGV CMP, I have to bring my own cover (BBFS is also offered here...) and when we're done, the provider gives me the used condom, wrapped in a napkin and asks me to discard it in the trash can outside...
As for the married men warning - that's a good point. I keep my stash in a hidden compartment of my car and anyway my wife hardly drives it.
Have fun!
[QUOTE=Webcams]Heard alot of places are scratching the condoms for saran wrap or latex strips, in order to avoid LE using the possesion as evidence against them in case of a bust. The mere possesion is not illegal, but when you keep a supply LE can use that to attempt to show a jury, that massages don't require rubbers, I belive le's harsh enforcment willl cause a rise in std's, but wtf just my 2 cents, seems if you want to play safe, you gotta always bring your own just in case, but remember married men, throw away the one's you don't use! I have heard the horrors of trying to explain them away from married guys![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FedEx]...As for the married men warning - that's a good point. I keep my stash in a hidden compartment of my car and anyway my wife hardly drives it.[/QUOTE]To make sure my hobby stays a mistery from the Mrs., I got bought a pay-as-you-go cellphone to do my CL and related hobbying. I checked all the different plans and phones. Best deal I could find was at Target for the T-mobile phone and service. Got the cheapest phone, the cheapest starter card, then got the one-year card when the starter expired a couple months later.
I keep it in my car and only use it there. If the Mrs. ever happens to find it, I can always say something like "that must be Joe's from work."
As to condoms, I never bring 'em in the hopes of bareback riding. I've done a lot of hobbying over the years (I'm an older guy) and have never gotten a thing.
Starting to see alot of ad's for amp's & lamps In the SFV.. Getting better ?
Guys,
Can anyone recommend any good massage (+ happy finish) places in Burbank?
Just looking for a decent asian rub / tug place.
Thanks
Took a couple for the team on Saturday afternoon (4/15).
8537 Reseda Blvd. is a totally legit Korean Massage place (I never thought I would write this combination of words...). The place is rather new with polished hardwood floors, large windows on the doors and real massage beds.
Gave the 30 y.o. K-girl $40 for 1/2 hour, stripped to my undies and waited. She came back after a few minutes and motioned me to climb on the bed. I approached her, extended my hand to make contact and she stopped me right there, saying: "No touchie!". I apologized and said I would leave. She smiled an said OK. While I was dressing, an older K-Lady (mms, perhaps) came in and tried to save the sale: "We give you very good massagie". I told her I was not there for the massage. She nodded & left. I had to go to their gathering room to ask for my $40 back, 'cause they did not make any effort to voluntarily return it. When I asked, I got it back. Fair enough.
Not far from there, I entered a CMP. Handed over $40 for 1/2 hour to a mid 30's C-girl (thin and to my liking, although some would classify her as plain).
Brushed my hand over her chest and took her other hand and brushed it against my member. No objection. She left for a minute and then come back. Asked if I wanted massage and I said no. I exposed her breasts and fondled them for a fes seconds, then mentioned with hand signals that I wanted a BJ (you hardly get more than that at the SFV CMP's - and only when you bring your own cover). She said OK and asked how much I would pay her. I asked how much she wanted and after a slight hesitation, she said $120. I said NO WAY and did not have to act very surprised, because I was.
I told her $60 is the tops I would pay and she countered with $80. I was not going to shell a total of $120 for cbj, $100 is expensive enough (for that amount you can get FS in Oxnard). So I told her I'm leaving and started dressing. She left and spoke to the mms in the corridor. A minute later both entered the room, the mms trying to save the sale. I told her that for $100 I can get cbj in a Van Nuys cmp and that's where I was headed. That was fine by both and a few seconds later I got my money back.
Headed to V.N., got a good massage and a cbj for a total damage of $100 and that was it. (I was supposed to go to the SGV yesterday, but the wife shortened my free time from 3 to 1.5 hours, so I had to settle for the best local solution).
Just to think that 4 years ago we had 36 KAMP in the SFV - unbelievable!!!!
Have fun & stay safe!
I went to one near Topanga and was greeted by a girl who I would rate 3. Seriously thought about bailing out but stayed to see if I could get a good massage at least.
What a mistake! The massage was terrible. She just rubbed her hands with some lotion on my back. After the flip she asked if I wanted anything else. We agreed on the most simple method and she went to work. I just finished as soon as possbile and took off. On my way out she said to bring my own supply if I wanted more. I thought to myself NO WAY I'm coming back.
Mongers,
Yesterday, Friday, I had a funny experience. Long story short. I put some recent research to good use. I got free from my work in the early evening. I had seen regular, non pro, hotties all over the SFV during the week as I did my missions... So I was pent up for sure! I checked my $$$ 160. What could I do? It was just past 7pm.
I used my phone to call some #s I had harvested from the LA Weekly. Lots of choices... I started w/a place off of Victory & Tampa. Its called Asian therapy. I call the mama san she says 2 girls working mimi & lulu. Sweet I say to myself. And w/that I pop a Vit V. I get there and its still looking good. Like the old Chiropractic place off of Reseda & Roscoe (Remember that place ER2). So I'm inside and it turns out only Mimi is there and she is fat. I get naked and she acts cool. Yet, she really just wants to give me a massage. Period. So I get dressed, get my money back and bail. F**king waste of time!
Now I am focused. And working against the clock. Tick, tick, tick... I call Oriental therapy off of Reseda & Victory. Closed for more than a week now. I'm thinking BUSTED. So I call Pacific care, the old Joy therapy in Van Nuys, and they are open. I get there and I see a hot latina in back of the reception area. I'm thinking sweet. NOT! I get to my room and get the line up. 2 fat latinas. WTF? I ask dude he says the one I want her shift is over. Bummer. So I pick the thinner one and get naked. She freaks and tells me only aromatherapy no massage. I cut my losses tell her no thanks and get my $$$ back from dude. I dont need scented oils I need sex. I almost miss Rainbow therapy at this point.
In my ride I call Victory's therapy off of SB & Vanowen. Only aromatherapy. No massage offered. I say thanks and hang up. This is sucking. And I'm getting horny and harder by the minute.
So I call a place in NOHO off of Riverside. Its after 9pm now. Mama san answers. I ask "how many girls working?" "5 girls you come quick." I say "I'll be there by 9:30 please dont close." So I jam over from Van Nuys via Riverside due east... I make it to the area by 9:28pm. After calling mama san back for some help locating their lair I get inside by 9:35. Mama san is gracious and all smiles. She says "YOU made it." I get a big, big, big room. Seriously, I could have entertained all 5 girls by myself in that space. I get Dani. She is thick but mama san says she has a great personality. And she does. I have less than 30 minutes left. So I get a wicked hand job and prostrate massage. And I splatted her hands and chest for her effort! "Oh YOU cum so big. Lots of messy on me..." I laugh w/her and she gets hot towels for us both. I like this place it could be good w/more time and a few more visits.
So now I am relieved. Some what relieved. I get in my ride and head back west and finally get off of Riverside and take the 101 west to SB. I troll pass Hesby nada... I am still horny w/my cravings leaning towards a fine sw. I am hopeful. I always seem to find a girl when I am in this horny state of mind. I get all the way to Sherman way and I am a little...
Okay, story continued on the sw thread
Late, V da Sadist
I am seeing tons of new places popping up. Historically, NoHo has been sub-par and mostly legit.
Any info for a senior member would be appreciated... THX
Here's an advice to the SFV mongers:
Call the AMP in advance and ask if they have C-girls or K-girls. If it's a CAMP, bring your own cover and if you play your cards right, you may get a quick cbj from a late 30's - mid 40's C-girl for $40 + $60 (some will want more tip, but will take $60). Mostly you will get a HJ - to tip or not to tip is up to you.
If it's a KAMP, most likely you can get a rushed, unenthusiastic FS from a
45 - 55 y.o. K-lady in a room with big windows on the door. Entry will probably be $50 and the old hags will ask for $100 - $120 for the 1/2 ass service with their worn out bodies. Don't even ask for DFK... These providers used to be hot in the '70's... LOL
Take your game to the SGV, Oxnard or Hollywood / West Hollywood areas. Get a copy of the L.A. Weekly or the L.A. Xpress, read the corresponding boards on this fine California forum and everything you need is right in front of your eyes. Make some calls before you head out and have fun.
The SFV is dead - we have buried it in late 2004 with the demise of Topanga Therapy, may it rest in peace...
Just my 2 cents
Fedex
[QUOTE=stevelee333]I went to one near Topanga and was greeted by a girl who I would rate 3. Seriously thought about bailing out but stayed to see if I could get a good massage at least.
What a mistake! The massage was terrible. She just rubbed her hands with some lotion on my back. After the flip she asked if I wanted anything else. We agreed on the most simple method and she went to work. I just finished as soon as possbile and took off. On my way out she said to bring my own supply if I wanted more. I thought to myself NO WAY I'm coming back.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FedEx]Here's an advice to the SFV mongers:
Call the AMP in advance and ask if they have C-girls or K-girls. If it's a CAMP, bring your own cover and if you play your cards right, you may get a quick cbj from a late 30's - mid 40's C-girl for $40 + $60 (some will want more tip, but will take $60). Mostly you will get a HJ - to tip or not to tip is up to you.
If it's a KAMP, most likely you can get a rushed, unenthusiastic FS from a
45 - 55 y.o. K-lady in a room with big windows on the door. Entry will probably be $50 and the old hags will ask for $100 - $120 for the 1/2 ass service with their worn out bodies. Don't even ask for DFK... These providers used to be hot in the '70's... LOL
Take your game to the SGV, Oxnard or Hollywood / West Hollywood areas. Get a copy of the L.A. Weekly or the L.A. Xpress, read the corresponding boards on this fine California forum and everything you need is right in front of your eyes. Make some calls before you head out and have fun.
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I saw a new post in this section and got excited, then I read it, at first I thought it would get better then your take on late 30's - mid 40's C-girl .. but it got worse, exposing are very limited depressing options out here.
I have No info on hollywood my experience, there all b.s., but I haven't tried an amp in the valley since maybe jan - mar of this year if not 2005, I guess we have to realize sfv is to slow so vice has to slam the few that pop up, for amp service it use to be Inglewood, but that took a shit as well, Still confused as to the big deal amps are, I am of the opinion that they should be left alone. But who am I. Thanks for the post's fedex, I remember an old old old place near the outskirts of downtown in the shadows of city hall which had very young thin pretty asian latina girls maybe 3-5 years ago, I may have to head down there soon and report back to those trusted members, the place looked so legit, I was sure nothing was happening, but it was =)
This CMP has brought in female "marketeers" from SF. They'll be here about a week. My guess is they'll do everything, and leave the tip up to you. I think they just want to quickly develop happy customers.
I was just checkin' out the place and wasn't going to stay for a massage, but...
...the Chinese girl grabbed me by the hand and pulled me into a room, before I could back out. I thought, what the hell, I'll check out this place, from the inside. LOL
She knew her way around a man's body, that's for sure. Turns out she's from SF. She has an average face, but very nice, natural B's/C's, and a very cute butt.
I didn't want to mislead her, so I told her that I will come back to see her again before she goes home to SF, because I didn't have $ for fun tonight. But she continued with the sensual touches, and oiled up the tiger cub and off to the manual races. She allowed me to pet her kitty, inside and out. I shot and left her what little remained in my wallet.
Only pm me if you already know me or if you include a worthwhile review with contact info.
Thursday night my back was killing me and I decided I really needed a massage. No, I mean it, I wanted a real massage. So I jumped on Craigslist, in the Therapeutic Services section, and found an Asian place in Woodland Hills. Gave them a call to make sure they were open and got the address. When I got there two older, I mean they weren’t in their 20’s, maybe between 30 and 40, but nice looking Chinese women greeted me. I told them about my back and was led to a room upstairs. I paid the girl 40 for half an hour, she asked me to get ready and she left the room. I stripped and lay on the table for a few minutes tell she came back. She put some oil on me and went right to work on my back and I think it was helping my sore muscles a lot. She moved around so she was standing at the end by my head and started long strokes from my shoulders down my back. Soon she was rubbing my ass and inside my thighs with her whole upper body laying on me. She then forced my legs apart and went to work on my dick and hole. After awhile I turned on my side, unbuttoned her pants and slid them down. As she stepped out of her pants I lifted up her shirt and she unhooked her bra. I guided her head to go down on me and got a BBBJ without saying a word. I pulled her up and she kissed me all over my lips, face, neck and chest as she pulled her panties aside and slid me into her. After she got used to the size she really started to rock and roll. She seemed to be really enjoying herself so I just hung on for the ride. It felt like she came a couple of times before I shot my load inside of her and she acted like she enjoyed that even more. After we were done she wanted to cuddle and she got giggly and very playful. She then got up and got a damp cloth and cleaned me up. She got my clothes and helped me get dressed. Don’t you just love that about Asian girls! As I was leaving I asked her about a tip but she spoke almost no English and didn’t understand what I was talking about so I started to leave. But she stopped me and as she looked into my eyes she said something I didn’t understand and made this sign with her hands about the size of a dollar. I said OK and pulled out a 20, she took it and said something else I didn’t understand so I pulled out another 20 and gave it to her and now she was happy and gave me a big hug and a big wet kiss. We walked downstairs hand in hand as she kept saying “You love Lisa”. The other lady was sitting on the couch and got up to introduce herself and as she told me her name was Cindy she gave me a hug and a kiss on the cheek then they both held my hand and walked me to the door. What an unexpected surprise the whole thing was and only 80 bucks. Not only that the next day my back felt great. Now I know I shouldn’t have done it without protection and I ALWAYS do but what the heck now.
By the way, I looked this place up on the Erotic Section and they have several ads there as well. Interesting thing is that it states “This is not full service” I wonder if the boss knows what these girls are up to. You think?
I will be back and it’s close to my house but next time I think I’ll try Cindy.
Mike
Waytago, Mike!!!
Mongers,
I am happy YOU have found some decent CAMP fun. Good work boys. The SFV has everything we need: professionals, amateurs, CAMPS, etc... Sure the glory days of past are long gone but never forgotten.
I am especially pleased that YOU guys are keeping it off the radar. CAMPs are great fun. And FS can be had along w/a great massage. Do not post names of places or their locations. PM to trusted members only! And always have a blast all over some beautiful pale skinned Chinese girls face... I do!
Late, V da Sadist
[QUOTE=Vlad De Sade]PM to trusted members only![/QUOTE]
It always makes me wonder when someone makes a statement like this. There is no way to know who is trusted or not.
Like I've said before, the police know of these places. In fact, in most cities, the application for the massage permit goes before the Chief of Police.
Some cities have enacted ordinances where officials may inspect these parlors at any time, without a search warrant. BTW, this was challenged all the way to the highest courts, which found the searches constitutional. This is the long way of saying, in many cities LE tolerates these establishments. Other cities, there is no tolerance. These places will come onto the radar regardless of what is written here or not.
If you didn't know, there are review sites where individuals post of their conquests in extreme and organized detail. To not put useful information only serves to make this site not as useful as the others, which doesn't really help us.
[QUOTE=ReallyaNiceGuy]By the way, I looked this place up on the Erotic Section and they have several ads there as well. Interesting thing is that it states “This is not full service” I wonder if the boss knows what these girls are up to. You think?
I will be back and it’s close to my house but next time I think I’ll try Cindy.
Mike[/QUOTE]
A good masage & f/s In the Valley Can we be so lucky ? ?
Let me know the name & loc if you get a chance I would love to check out something local for a change, I haven't seen a thing here in Years.
Thanks Be Safe || Have fun
ReallyaNiceGuy,
Don't bother with Cindy, fully clothed HJ only.
OCA,
Bro, YOU are not trusted. I am so tired of your rants...
Seriously, a trusted member is a fellow monger who has over the MONTHS & YEARS exchanged quality, reliable, accurate and real intel w/me VIA THE PM FEATURE. This is so simple why do I even attempt to educate YOU. Please, fellow mongers send OCA a barrage of PM's expaining how this all works. We all know LE is here. If YOU dont believe it yourself YOU are delusional. All YOU got to do is read back in the SFV archives, 2001-2002, to read posts by Anon, LE watcher, etc...
I dont want to make it any easier for LE or idiot mongers on this board. I believe YOU are both! YOU always talk about law links, law cases, court houses, penal codes, LE tricks, and YOU are not able to think outside of the box. I could continue ripping on YOU but another pig who wants to be cool is just a joke! Please, be aware that your cover is blown. And if YOU were trying to hide it YOU failed. Oh yeah, if your not LE YOU are just a wanna be pig and thats bad enough...
Okay, enough real mongers understand the game and how it is played. YOU sadly do not. I am done w/YOU and your attacks. Good luck, stay safe and have a nice day!
Late, V da Sadist
[QUOTE=Vlad De Sade]OCA,
Bro, YOU are not trusted. I am so tired of your rants...
Seriously, a trusted member is a fellow monger who has over the MONTHS & YEARS exchanged quality, reliable, accurate and real intel w/me VIA THE PM FEATURE. This is so simple why do I even attempt to educate YOU. Please, fellow mongers send OCA a barrage of PM's expaining how this all works. We all know LE is here. If YOU dont believe it yourself YOU are delusional. All YOU got to do is read back in the SFV archives, 2001-2002, to read posts by Anon, LE watcher, etc...
I dont want to make it any easier for LE or idiot mongers on this board. I believe YOU are both! YOU always talk about law links, law cases, court houses, penal codes, LE tricks, and YOU are not able to think outside of the box. I could continue ripping on YOU but another pig who wants to be cool is just a joke! Please, be aware that your cover is blown. And if YOU were trying to hide it YOU failed. Oh yeah, if your not LE YOU are just a wanna be pig and thats bad enough...
Okay, enough real mongers understand the game and how it is played. YOU sadly do not. I am done w/YOU and your attacks. Good luck, stay safe and have a nice day!
Late, V da Sadist[/QUOTE]
What a bunch of babble. Just because I disagree with your strategy, you resort to a senseless attack, and encourage a barrage of PM's. Senseless. I suppose that really shows your state of mind.
The truth of the matter, as I have an interest in this subject I have bothered to do some research. Nearly all of it available via google, sure, I did open a Pacer account so that I could observe the pending case against Mao and company. Everything else, you can find on your own using your favorite search engine. I encourage you to do so. The articles you will find will really open your eyes. You will find that LE in many municipalities basically tolerates MP's, for what ever reason. When they get their marching orders, they will close down a shop. Otherwise, how could you possibly explain cities like Inglewood. They have several AMP's that have been open for nearly 10 years plus. Sure, a number of them closed recently, but not due to local LE.
As far as LE goes, they don't need this forum. In fact, they really don't need any forum, but there are other forums that provide similiar info. If its simply a matter of principal, then sure not posting the info works to a degree, but only to serve your own principals. If you think that strategy is actually going to work and protect these places, then I am not the one that is delusional. You would be totally ignoring these other forums that are providing info.
There are very few people willing to think about these issues and then comment upon them.
I am sure that we have some legal professionals, whether it be an attorney, police officers that are here for their own personal needs or what ever.
If you do have extended knowledge of the laws, and how postings here might be used or why they couldn't be used, we'd all love to hear about it.
As far as the current debate, Vlad De Sade and I have very different views on the subject. That is alright.
Rather than carry on a long and drawn-out thread that is likely to bore everyone, since no one else comments, why don't we think about how we can change the current situation. Whether it be legalization or legislation, we do need to come up with a plan. This is one point that we all probably agree on.
If you have ideas on how to carry out this plan, I'm sure that this would be a lively conversation. One that we all would be willing to carry on.
I got to chime in quickly, I use to belive it was ok to post everything out for everyone to see, that was why we have this board, and slowly but surely everything was closed, now I am of the opinion that pm the details is much better then posting it out for everyone to see, sure le could be a senior member with 1500 post's, but the chances are slim, LE use this board? Maybe but why risk it? why give out intel to someone who hasn't provided anything themselves? can post's on this board be use din a court of law, maybe to obtain proable cause to search a place, against a monger I doubt it, but with the current enviroment against privacy and freedom of speech I would not want to risk it. Simply put it ain't worth posting details what's the payoff? s/w's and strippers amps etc are diffrent s/w's are fluid they move from place to place amps can't, it makes them an easy target for le to bust. ok to post very vaugue details but don't get specific it's just not worth it.
[QUOTE=Webcams]I got to chime in quickly, I use to belive it was ok to post everything out for everyone to see, that was why we have this board, and slowly but surely everything was closed, now I am of the opinion that pm the details is much better then posting it out for everyone to see, sure le could be a senior member with 1500 post's, but the chances are slim, LE use this board? Maybe but why risk it? why give out intel to someone who hasn't provided anything themselves? can post's on this board be use din a court of law, maybe to obtain proable cause to search a place, against a monger I doubt it, but with the current enviroment against privacy and freedom of speech I would not want to risk it. Simply put it ain't worth posting details what's the payoff? s/w's and strippers amps etc are diffrent s/w's are fluid they move from place to place amps can't, it makes them an easy target for le to bust. ok to post very vaugue details but don't get specific it's just not worth it.[/QUOTE]The upside to posting about anything is that everyone gets the info - newbies and non-senior members are not left out. I don't get the comment above that "everything was closed". There are tons of places open despite many, many posts on this board and even more so on others. You guys who think there is info here - check out the mp reviews website (hope it's OK to post this). There has been tremendously detailed info there for years and these places are still open.
Look, OCAMPer and I have posted the arguments for posting details and that doing so does not tell LE anything that they don't know already - look up my posts on Orange County MP thread, including details of my discussion with a former LE. It is apparent that some people just don't want to research the other boards I'm talking about and/or cannot think rationally. I guess we'll just have to do without info from you guys who are irrational about this. I get most of my info and primarily post on the other website anyway, but it would be nice if people would share here also.
OC Amper,
The simple rule of the thumb here - especially after the AMP disappearance act from the SFV and now from Da Wood - is: "Better be safe than sorry".
It's gonna make it harder on the newbies, so what? If you have earned your senior stripes, you probably have contributed before and you may be trusted.
We have put everything in the open in the past, and now we have nothing in the SFV. So we must retreat, regroup and use caution. Putting everything in the open came back to bite us in the butt, so if we try the PM system to only trusted senior members, we may enjoy some new places & providers that may pop up ocassionally here and there.
If anyone has a problem with that, they are either newbies, LE, or do not understand the way the game is played now. It's a totally different ballgame!
Just my 2 cents,
Fedex
[QUOTE=Oc Amper]There are very few people willing to think about these issues and then comment upon them.
I am sure that we have some legal professionals, whether it be an attorney, police officers that are here for their own personal needs or what ever.
If you do have extended knowledge of the laws, and how postings here might be used or why they couldn't be used, we'd all love to hear about it.
As far as the current debate, Vlad De Sade and I have very different views on the subject. That is alright.
Rather than carry on a long and drawn-out thread that is likely to bore everyone, since no one else comments, why don't we think about how we can change the current situation. Whether it be legalization or legislation, we do need to come up with a plan. This is one point that we all probably agree on.
If you have ideas on how to carry out this plan, I'm sure that this would be a lively conversation. One that we all would be willing to carry on.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FedEx]We have put everything in the open in the past, and now we have nothing in the SFV..........
If anyone has a problem with that, they are either newbies, LE, or do not understand the way the game is played now. It's a totally different ballgame![/QUOTE] I disagreed with these statements [b]in the past[/b], but Literally all the good places are gone, Why? Who cares? What everyone here is getting at is Ya the cops will eventually shut them down, but were not gonna help them kinda like voting ya your vote doesn't matter but you might still vote.
Example:
Soandso
Member 68 Posts.
He reads a post about Suck u Hard massage on Kittridge in Van Nuys He goes in the lady doesn't do a good job he pays 100.00 and is pissed he calls the cops and tells them they provide service to be a prick, if he didn't read about he might not have found it sure other websites might post it but we are here not there, so In short we post differently now maybe we got tired of posting all the good shit that cost us $$$$$$$$$$ over the years just to see people who don't contribute use our Intel without giving something back. PM Senior Members is a good deal, but I rarely PM Fake Seniors those being members without 100 or more post's, unless I feel there posts are quality and genuine. Ya fuck it earn your stripes and then you can find out about the cool non advertised apartments and houses that have Fresh Young 18-20 year old girls Latinas Whites Blacks all kinds and charge 150 for an hour in Luxury until then your stuck reading about handjob sally at the regular amps, I got a Platinum Amex & I am happy with a s/w or an escort; earn your place
I called last night and Lisa was not working but I went anyways. What a mistake. I got a woman that was overweight and like 40 plus. Nothing exciting on the back side and after the flip she started a little rubbing and asked if I wanted a HJ and I told her sure. She then asked how much and I told her nothing and said I was ready to leave. She said stay and wanted to work out a deal. Well after going back and forth awhile it was clear FS was not an option and a HJ was 60 but she would take off her clothes and I could only touch her. I told her no thank you and got up and got dressed. While I was dressing I asked her questions and she was sure that no one was giving FS at these places. And the lady running it had several others places around the valley and the LA area.
Next time I will ask where Lisa is working and go there.
Mike