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[QUOTE=Lkylkylky]...I'm pretty positive this is BS...
...Should I go ahead and try again in a week or a month and see what happens?
...I'm just wondering what I can do now to get another shot.[/QUOTE]
As far as the B.S. about being 22... They just said that to get you out of there. Obviously, you looked like you haven't been there before or you looked like LE or something.
Don't go back to THIS one for at least a few months. Try another place in the area (search your local forum) for other potential locations. I've been to the one you mention and haven't had any problems.
In order to have success at this AMP, get some practice at another AMP. Get the routine down and read my first post in this section from long ago (and all of the other following posts) on how everything goes down.
If you get a chance to go to Las Vegas, they are used to first timers so you don't have to say you've been there before. It's difficult to get FS in a Vegas AMP, but it can be done. Just expect HJ there.
Nightwatchman... good point about not driving the Crown Vic there... I never thought of that one. Stay away from the old Chevy Caprice's too!
Good Luck!
-USTraveller
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I just want to say thank you. I am seriously thinking about trying the AMP experience as I'm travelling the next few months, and really didn't know where to start. This advice, as well as the rest in the thread, are great.
[QUOTE=USTraveller]Here are some tips and etiquette for visitors looking for extras in an AMP (Asian Massage Parlor). I'm one who prefers the AMPs to the other mongering options because they seem to provide a safe and relaxing environment. I wanted to share some general information in a number of sections and decided to do it here instead as more people are likely to view it and add on. I hope this can help any newbies to AMPs or jog the memory of AMP experts to dish out some tips of their own.
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Great Info! I've used these tips to great success. Probably the most important factor is the repeat customer thing. First time out don't expect too much. Just enjoy the massage. Patience pays.
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[QUOTE=Valpier;1252211]Great Info! I've used these tips to great success. Probably the most important factor is the repeat customer thing. First time out don't expect too much. Just enjoy the massage. Patience pays.[/QUOTE]You can even ask for a business card and have the girl write her name on it. Then, that's proof you've been there before in case the girls change around by the time you visit again.
-USTraveller
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Real Massage w / HE
This may be a "just me" thing, but one thing I've learned over the years of visiting MPs is that if you go to a place that actually gives you a massage before the HE, make sure to enjoy the massage portion (if they are good at it, of course) and try not to think too much about getting off. When I first started this crazy game, when I'd visit a place, during the 45 minutes of actual massage, I was just thinking about how to get jerked off. Thus, when the time came, I was still tense and so horny that I would cum extremely quickly. Then I didn't even get to fully enjoy the massage because I couldn't relax nor the HE because it didn't last long.
Learn to relax and just know that you will get stroked at the end (assuming you are at an actual rub and' tug). Give her a few signs along the way, but just enjoy the rub, as well. Most of the time they know what you want at the end.
Obviously, if you go to a FS place where they scratch your back for a few minutes before play, then this doesn't apply.
Just my two cents.
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So I've been going to AMPs for a while, but the one thing I've never manged to figure out is how to handle the tip. Not the amount, but the actual getting the money part. Most of the girls I've seen want the tip before they go to work, which means I have to get up off the table, find my wallet, pull out the money, count it, and leave it somewhere. This is awkward as hell and really kills the mood. I'd rather not give them the tip as soon they come in since that seems like a good way to get nothing in return, but is there another way to handle it better? Should I keep it with me / next to me while I'm getting the massage? Should I insist she do her work before I get her the money? I'm really not sure what's the best way to do this, any advice would be appreciated.
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[QUOTE=SmileyScout;1527369]So I've been going to AMPs for a while, but the one thing I've never manged to figure out is how to handle the tip. Not the amount, but the actual getting the money part. Most of the girls I've seen want the tip before they go to work, which means I have to get up off the table, find my wallet, pull out the money, count it, and leave it somewhere. This is awkward as hell and really kills the mood. I'd rather not give them the tip as soon they come in since that seems like a good way to get nothing in return, but is there another way to handle it better? Should I keep it with me / next to me while I'm getting the massage? Should I insist she do her work before I get her the money? I'm really not sure what's the best way to do this, any advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I've done it a few different ways (NOTE: Prices may vary by locale) :
1) Have the tip ready somewhere convenient. If I plan on negotiating a price, I have that amount in 20s loaded up folded in half. Usually, I tuck it into my shoe, pants pocket, or the little purse they give you. If they negotiate on the flip and want the tip right then and there, you have to get it to them somehow. If it's convenient, you can even tell them "In Shoe" or something so they will get it. I've had them bring me my pants where I fumble for the money. Either way, it's awkward and I understand your concern. Many places still want the money up front, so having it handy is better. If you unsure how successful the negotiation will got, have two stacks of 3 ready. .6 for HJ or 1. 2 for FS. See what they go for. I usually keep a few 20s behind my drivers license just in case the price is higher than I anticipated (but still not overpriced).
2) When paying upfront for service, make it clear you have extra money (Pull out 120 with two bills. Give them the large bill. They bring change. They can add). If they know you have it on you, they still may negotiate on the flip and trust you have the rest. Sometimes, they just trust you have the tip (and I assume some angry owner with a sword will come in if you don't pay up afterwards). If they DO trust you have it, then be true to your word. This is another reason to keep a few 20s behind the drivers license.
3) Negotiate up front. I've done this several times and it was brought up by the girl. I enjoyed the clean and easy transition from massage to extras. No fuss!
4) No negotiating at all. I've had some girls do the flip then massage a bit and start the ending. If that's they case, I usually tip. 4 for their troubles. I would have paid. 6 so I still feel like I got a deal.
Personally, I like the period of exchange as it gets me to relax and not be so ready to explode. It takes some extra time to build me back up again. But it depends on how good the girl is on the flip.
-USTraveller
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What if there is bust?
Obviously a newbie to the forums but I feel like the LE is heating up in my local AMP's I was wondering if there was a bust during my massage. What should I do? What should I say? And what are the consequences of being there? (New England area) any help from seniors or insight would be great.
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[QUOTE=JosephAlfonso;1608094]Obviously a newbie to the forums but I feel like the LE is heating up in my local AMP's I was wondering if there was a bust during my massage. What should I do? What should I say? And what are the consequences of being there? (New England area) any help from seniors or insight would be great.[/QUOTE] (Standard disclaimer: This is the subjective opinion of one person, it is not in any way intended to be taken as legal advice.)
I'm not familiar with laws in the New England area, but generally speaking it's difficult to charge someone with solicitation at an AMP. In most cases there needs to be a clear and definitive agreement of money for sex in order for the charge to stick. So the bust would pretty much have to occur while you were in negotiations, and the cops would need to have some evidence that this negotiation took place. Even if they bust in while the two of you are having sex (which it would be pretty stupid to keep going while a huge commotion is happening outside the room) the cops will have a hard time proving that you paid for it AND you had the intent to solicit, unless one of you confesses. This is actually how a lot of guys get busted, not because LE had evidence but because either he or the girl he's with said something incriminating. It's possible that you could be charged with indecent exposure or gross lewdness or something similar, but since MPs / spas are areas with some expectation of privacy it becomes more of a grey area. Personally I don't think these charges are very likely, since many legitimate MPs encourage their clients to be naked during the massage so it isn't really unusual.
Again, I don't know the laws in your area so I can't give you any advice about what to do or what the consequences could be. But what I would do if a bust happened while I was getting a massage is the same thing I'd do in any other situation with the police: [b]shut the fuck up[/b]. The only thing I would say is "I will not answer any questions until I've spoken with my attorney." No matter what the cops promise and no matter what they threaten me with, I would not say one word until I had a lawyer representing me. You will never convince them to let you go, so the only thing you'll accomplish by talking to cops is giving them more evidence to use against you. (Note that you may be required to identify yourself to police, so check your state law before refusing to tell the cops your name, address, or occupation. And do not, under any circumstances, lie to them.)
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Tipping ettiquete
I took some time off work next week so will finally have a chance to try some day mongering while SO is at work. Really want to try one of the AMP's because I've spent some time in Korea and have always wanted to try a Korean woman. Any suggestions on a good day location with Korean women (and preferably a Korean MS)?
My question though, is once I negotiate a price, do I tip on top of that? Or do I negotiate a total price? And even though this is the AMP thread, does the same apply to an escort? If the price is listed as $$.5 per hour do I add my tip to that? Just don't want to come off as a schmuck if I'm expected to tip but don't!
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Tip 20 Percent Minimum
[QUOTE=Wldcat1969; 1699816]I took some time off work next week so will finally have a chance to try some day mongering while SO is at work. Really want to try one of the AMP's because I've spent some time in Korea and have always wanted to try a Korean woman. Any suggestions on a good day location with Korean women (and preferably a Korean MS)?
My question though, is once I negotiate a price, do I tip on top of that? Or do I negotiate a total price? And even though this is the AMP thread, does the same apply to an escort? If the price is listed as $$.5 per hour do I add my tip to that? Just don't want to come off as a schmuck if I'm expected to tip but don't![/QUOTE]I tip 20% if the massage is OK and the girl has a good attitude. If I get extras the tip will be 30 to 40 percent. I think that most of the real dollars that the girls get are tips. If they take a chance and give you extras. They should be rewarded IMHO.
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[QUOTE=SemperFi;1727760]I tip 20% if the massage is OK and the girl has a good attitude. If I get extras the tip will be 30 to 40 percent. I think that most of the real dollars that the girls get are tips. If they take a chance and give you extras. They should be rewarded IMHO.[/QUOTE]I think the standard is $40 for a hand job and $100 plus for full service. It can be plus or minus, depending on your mood, the girl's mood, and how much you want it compared to your provider. Check out [URL]rubmaps.com[/URL]. This place will give you an idea of what parlors offer happy endings and which ones that do not. If you are into this kind of stuff, you know what I mean.
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[QUOTE=PrinceAlbert;1917354]I think the standard is $40 for a hand job and $100 plus for full service. It can be plus or minus, depending on your mood, the girl's mood, and how much you want it compared to your provider. Check out [URL]rubmaps.com[/URL]. This place will give you an idea of what parlors offer happy endings and which ones that do not. If you are into this kind of stuff, you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]Seems you are only here to place an ad for your site. There are better sites than RM. This one for example.
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These numbers are what I'm used to, all over the country.
[QUOTE=PrinceAlbert;1917354]I think the standard is $40 for a hand job and $100 plus for full service. It can be plus or minus, depending on your mood, the girl's mood, and how much you want it compared to your provider. Check out [URL]rubmaps.com[/URL]. This place will give you an idea of what parlors offer happy endings and which ones that do not. If you are into this kind of stuff, you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]
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AMP Tips
My AMP tips are following.
1. Never give the tip until massage is completed, other wise you could end up with a bad service.
2. Never try to cover yourself with a towel when you lay down to the massage bed, so girl will know that you also know what's going on.
3. If you do not like the girl, ask for the other girl.
Here are also some other good tips, whenever you are choosing a massage parlors: [URL]http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Erotic_massage[/URL].