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[QUOTE=VerySlowly]( The truth is, I care enough about her, that I want to ruin any chance that she'll be able to work in this field again. She deserves so much more than that.[/QUOTE])(1) You just can't get over her and you think her behaviour somehow reflects on you!
(2) You would rather she work 2 minimum wage jobs,( that way she'll be broke won't be able to find somebody else and you can continue to try and control her) you don't care about her at all !
Nobody is holding a gun to her head and unless she is an addict she has other choices but none that pay as good as this one and all cash, no IRS to worry about.
(3) What are you crying on this board for, this is a board that wants to F**K your ex-wife and 6 ways to Sunday to boot. They want her to play with and suck their cock, do you think we give a S*** about your feelings of wanting revenge, or is this some kind of scam to give her free publicity, if it is it's working. I imagine the AMP guys will be lining up to partake of her favors. "Suckee-Fuckee 80 dollar."
Get over her dude, Oriental's don't think like Americans, she'll do what it takes to support her kids and apparently your not helping.
If you're in any way sincere leave her alone because there are a million places she can work and she'll pack up some night and you'll never find her or see her again cause she'll be servicing truckdrivers along an interstate in Georgia----VS[/QUOTE]
She went two years without seeing the kids, I raise the kids with no help from her, so All of your free money, cash under the table, IRS bullshit doesn't fly. Fuck her 6 ways to Sunday if you want, just make sure to wrap it twice, because she'll give you the herpes just as fast as she gave it to me.
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Ginza
Went to Ginza on Friday, saw Mae, very sweet girl indeed. I originally wanted 30 minutes but then paid the extra $20 to carry on to the hour, ended up staying about an hour and 15. Very much worth it, excellent massage, hot stones to die for, TS and tipped .2 for a nice hand shake. I will definitely be back for massage as I didn't feel that good in a long time.
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No love
A bit?h is a bit?h sorry then add to this an asian b? I know whatever we say won't change your thoughts.
I read this and I believe it was *zombi (I kept it for being well-written)
It is .... these girls deserve absolutely NO sympathy because every bad thing that happens to them, they've brought on to themselves.
► They are liars, psychopaths, drug addicts, alcoholics, thieves, robbers, burglars & rats
► As this particular case as well as many others show , they can be just as if not more violent than the pimps and johns they deal with
► They make babies and abandon them for YOU, the taxpayer to pay for and raise . The more clever ones cheat the welfare & / or disability systems that you also pay for
► They bring misery to their families and everyone even remotely associated with them
So while it's in our best interests to treat them nicely when we're in a one•on•one situation with them, it's a total waste of time and tears to sympathize with their plights.... even with the ones you think you 'know' and are 'friends' with . As someone once pointed out to me , if you think yer 'close' to one these girls, try showing up without any dough and see what kind of reaction you get
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She went two years without seeing the kids, I raise the kids with no help from her, so All of your free money, cash under the table, IRS bullshit doesn't fly. Fuck her 6 ways to Sunday if you want, just make sure to wrap it twice, because she'll give you the herpes just as fast as she gave it to me.[/QUOTE]
So now we are getting to the truth....the woman you loved and still care for...you really hate her guts and are trying to get even for all your presumed grieviences against her.
She gave you herpes and you wrote such a glowing defense of her? Hmmmm...dosen't add up. What's the matter, she won't come back to you?
So all the money she makes ,she keeps for herself, you raise the kids, yet you still care for her, but you are trying to screw up her job so she can't get another?
Dude, you are full of anger and rage, you probably treated her like shit while she was with you and now you can't understand why she won't come back.
You need to watch 6 months of the Dr. Phil show and you will see yourself fifty times.
You are trying to force her into coming back by cutting off her income.
If I'm 100% wrong, in everything I have said and she is 100% at fault, is a terrible person and a rotten mother who dosen't come to see her kids in 2 yrs., dosen't pay child support...........Why in hell do you have any contact with her at all? Good luck----VS
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[QUOTE=Orlando J]It is .... these girls deserve absolutely NO sympathy because every bad thing that happens to them, they've brought on to themselves.
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I realize this whole thing is spinning out of control, but I have to take issue with your comments. While a lot of AMP gals may fit your stereotypes, I've recently been in contact with several mongers in different states who have genuinely had good experiences in relationships with these gals, including marriage. Not saying the majority, but some.
Because any woman - SW, escort, AMP girl, etc. - decides at some point to have sex for $ doesn't mean she can automatically be stereotyped and branded forever. Again, the majority may fit your description, and indeed one should go into any potential relationship with any provider with eyes wide open, but it's unfair to stereotype EVERYONE that way.
I probably won't convince you, because you seem pretty convinced, but the world is full of shades of gray, not all black and white.
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Avalon
You know what guys, Avalon is a great place I'm a long time friend of the owner and a customer, I have gotten many massages there and what I like the most is the variety of women, spanish, brazilians, oriental, black and that's just to name a few. We all know most men if not all are not happy with a massage unless there is a happy ending, with avalon is a hit and miss but you will love the attention and the overall massage, I have seen Suki in the past she is gives an excellent massage, but the she is not a looker, she gave me a happy ending but that dosent make her massage any less profecional, why don't we just leave this woman alone she is just doing her job.
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[QUOTE=Orlando J]A bit?h is a bit?h sorry then add to this an asian b? I know whatever we say won't change your thoughts.
They are liars, psychopaths, drug addicts, alcoholics, thieves, robbers, burglars & rats.
As someone once pointed out to me , if you think yer 'close' to one these girls, try showing up without any dough and see what kind of reaction you get[/QUOTE]Wow, You sound very angry.Sorry for all your horrible experiences with horrible people.You know.The horrible people that you joined a website to talk about and that you pay to show you a little attention from time to time. As far as showing up with no $ I have never assumed such a thing and always bring $.But I can honestly say I have been called by regulars on a slow day or when Mamasan was away to stop by for a visit.End up watching T.V.,playing cards and just hanging out.Always finished with some private time in the room.No talk of $.I have also spent several nights(full nights)at an AMP in D.C. with an old friend.Go there about 10:00 P.M.They closed at 4:00A.M.Pay 3 hours to the house and stay until 10:00A.M. when they opened.Always had a nice breakfast with the girls and I was on my way. And yes,everything you want to happen on your visit with your favorite AMP-girl would happen. Is this the norm.Absolutely not but it happens. Maybe it's just you.Try smiling next time.
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Very good editorial
[QUOTE=Datylover2]You know what guys, Avalon is a great place I'm a long time friend of the owner and a customer, I have gotten many massages there and what I like the most is the variety of women, spanish, brazilians, oriental, black and that's just to name a few. We all know most men if not all are not happy with a massage unless there is a happy ending, with avalon is a hit and miss but you will love the attention and the overall massage, I have seen Suki in the past she is gives an excellent massage, but the she is not a looker, she gave me a happy ending but that dosent make her massage any less profecional, why don't we just leave this woman alone she is just doing her job.[/QUOTE]
Finally, we're getting good editorials; this one and the previous ones from our senior member only leads to one conclusion: Leave Suki and Avalon alone! Luvin is not Luvin is Hatin, that's what he is. I have said this many times before, Avalon is one of the nicest places I've been, you don't automatically get a happy ending there I can tell you that, so let’s stop this crap. Last year I visited them over 50 times on a few occasions something else was offered, that girl is no longer there. When I want something more I go to the usual AMP in the Longwood/Casselberry area or the many others that are available and all of you veterans know. Why do we keep wasting our time with someone that you can clearly see has an agenda? This forum has provided us a great opportunity to share our experiences and to learn from one another’s mistakes and successes. I’m more interested in finding out what new places anyone has found and to tell the good or bad news about any new venue. Let’s all concentrate and focus on our real objectives… happy endings or not… So Luvin… go on take a trip to the moon and find someone there who can listen to your sermon, leave Suki and Avalon alone!
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No love
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]I realize this whole thing is spinning out of control, but I have to take issue with your comments.
I probably won't convince you, because you seem pretty convinced, but the world is full of shades of gray, not all black and white.[/QUOTE]
I am not generalizing. Each rule has exceptions but what are the chances! I did not write the article as I said but I like it. Here is another well-written article.
Guys, it's been said before.
Despite what you think, these girls do not give a flying fuck about you. All we are to them is a source of money, food, cigs, and occasionally a clean, warm place to sleep. That's all we are.
If forced to make a choice between drugs and you, you will lose. If forced to make a choice between their boyfriends and you, you will lose. It doesn't matter that they are losers. It doesn't matter that they live off of the girls, that they sometimes hit them, that they can't afford to pay rent so they wind up living in abandoned houses or cars. It doesn't matter that they are dirty or ugly. It doesn't matter how much she complains to you about him. She will not leave him for you. Ain't gonna happen.
As for the drugs, she may get clean, but she won't come running to you. Alot of these girls are really good looking when they are clean. Point is when they got their shit together, they won't want to be with a loser who pays for sex. That's right, as much as some of us look down on them for selling it, they look down on us for buying it. Crazy, but true.
You say, "she tells me I'm different than all the other guys out there. Your a nice guy. You treat me so good". Guys, what you are hearing is a small amount of gratitude mixed in with a large dose of bullshit. These girls are actresses. The best girls are the ones who fool you into thinking that you are special.
I'm sure there is some old monger out there who is going to say, "that's not true, so and so has been clean and out of the life for 4 years and she still calls me to say hi". I'm sure that is true but for all the girls out there, the odds are dramatically against you. You are much more likely to catch an std than have a girl leave the life and stay in touch.
"Yeah but my girl is different. She took me to meet her mom. We went Christmas shopping together." Trust me, in the end, when she no longer needs your money, she will dump you.
Please don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. Treat the girls nicely, but keep a firewall between your life and hers. One monger said it very well several weeks ago, "Our worlds cannot meet, they can only collide".
Keep your relationship with the girl in focus. Don't let them abuse or use you. I used to date a girl frequently, but the last two times I saw her, she just laid there. If I wanted that, I could either have a girl-friend or go back to my ex wife. I no longer pick her up. There are too many girls out there for me to let one of them treat me like shit.
The first time I dated Lindsey, she rushed me. When I paid her there was no tip. She asked why and I politely told her. She said she was sorry and the next time I saw her she took her time and as a result got a very nice tip. I will respect the girls limits if she respects mine. The girls who abide by that rule will see me often. Those that don't will not get picked up.
Over time some girls may start to take you for granted. In that case I usually don't date them for 3 to 4 weeks. When next I pick them up I tell them why. It's amazing how they get all lovey again.
Be nice to the girls, but ask for the same in return.
Don't get involved, you will regret it.
Think with the big head, not the small one.
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What The Fu?k?
[QUOTE=Howrich]Wow, You sound very angry.Sorry for all your horrible experiences with horrible people.You know.The horrible people that you joined a website to talk about and that you pay to show you a little attention from time to time. As far as showing up with no $ I have never assumed such a thing and always bring $.But I can honestly say I have been called by regulars on a slow day or when Mamasan was away to stop by for a visit.End up watching T.V.,playing cards and just hanging out.Always finished with some private time in the room.No talk of $.I have also spent several nights(full nights)at an AMP in D.C. with an old friend.Go there about 10:00 P.M.They closed at 4:00A.M.Pay 3 hours to the house and stay until 10:00A.M. when they opened.Always had a nice breakfast with the girls and I was on my way. And yes,everything you want to happen on your visit with your favorite AMP-girl would happen. Is this the norm.Absolutely not but it happens. Maybe it's just you.Try smiling next time.[/QUOTE]
What the hell are you talking about? I have not had horrible experiences. Who are you talking to and about? If you found a girl that was different then good-luck to you and her.
I do not use MP's and the only time I went to check them. I asked the girl on the door to give me an idea on their rates. A working girl said it's 80 and I'll do it for you and she meant it. The girl or should I say lady was white blonde blue eyes with D cup and little old for me late 30's and early 40's. I am a picky son of a gun. I do not think I need you to teach me how or what to do with women!
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To each his own. I choose to consider relationships with AMP girls, going in with my eyes wide open, being careful and open-minded. I'm aware if something starts, it may or may not work out. My radar on this isn't too bad. There have already been two girls I've considered, but got a bad signal or two even before it ever moved beyond the AMP. Anyway, let's not let things get too nasty. We should mostly be giving reports here and not advice unless it's solicited.
[QUOTE=Orlando J]I am not generalizing. Each rule has exceptions but what are the chances! I did not write the article as I said but I like it. Here is another well-written article.
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Welcome back
From this drama break - so can we leave all the ex-girlfriends and wives and conflicting reports of orgies or draped massages at whatever legitimate spas in the past?
Folks - Saw Teresa in Longwood a week or so ago - she's had a slow summer and would welcome some business. She's in the OW or you can PM me for digits if you're too lazy and a Sr member. She is mature but gives an excellent massage and I highly recommend her.
Let's leave the drama to Craigs List ok?
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Serenity Spa?
Anyone have any info on some of the newer girls there on obt? Thinking about stopping by.
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Or is this some kind of scam to give her free publicity, if it is it's working. I imagine the AMP guys will be lining up to partake of her favors.
If it generated publicity, and the AMP guys line up at Avalon, it won't be for Suki or her favors. She was fired last Tuesday afternoon. I'm sure it will be just a matter of time before she pops up somewhere, like along the interstate servicing truck drivers, right? I'm very sorry to upset those of you that I have, that wasn't my intention. When someone neglects my kid for a few years, then decides she wants to be involved again, watches us struggle while she prospers, and lies to me about being clean, I had to do what I had to do. I know that is not the purpose of this board, and I apologize to all of you that I offended. I won't bother you with my petty issues any longer. Again, I'm very sorry.
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Oriental Rainbow Spa?
Anyone know anything about this place? It looks good on their internet ads and in the yellow pages, but I haven't seen any reports on here about it. Looks like a good AMP?
Thanks in advance