As the Sugar World Turns.
Well I'm definitely in a different place than I thought would be a few weeks ago.
My long-term project in the Collegiate Athlete baby, basically turned from a MB (Maybe Baby) to a NWB (No-Way Baby). Things were progressing nicely and I actually met some of her friends and her sister. But then she asked for some more help that required a little more $ than usual. I obliged because I thought we were making progress. But then soon after when I asked just for some moderate levels of intimacy, she basically stopped talking to me. So she either is just totally opposed to have any meaningful physical activities or she found someone else (I did see her still logging into the SD sites almost daily). I'm disappointed because she was definitely a prize but I'm done with her for now. She doesn't understand the concept of a mutually beneficial arrangement and she probably just tries to string guys along for as long as she can. Ironically though, I'm still talking to her sister, haha. I actually I click very well with her sister who's a few years older. Too bad she has a boyfriend, but you never know.
As for my pot Doublemint SBs, I basically flaked on them before they flaked on me. I just got a vibe from the very sporadic contact that it was going to be more trouble than it's worth. Despite a recent notable exception, I'm getting better at sniffing out girls who have a high probability of flaking out. With me being married and a tight work schedule, I just don't have time to deal with girls who flake out at the very last minute on meets or don't know how to plan ahead a bit. I basically no longer deal with girls who take longer than 5-6 hours to answer my text or who I only hear from once in a 3 day period when we're set to meetup within a few days. If it's not possible to have fast communication, then it's probably not going to go well for me at least. I might give these girls another spin when they don't rank as on my Flake-O meter.
So now I have a couple of other prospects.
[b]Young Stripper SB[/b]
This girl is a 18 year-old stripper. BTW, I've read up on all the stories on here and in other forums on how dating a stripper can be an exciting but also mind numbingly aggravating. I was about to toss her back into the lake when I found out she was a stripper, but I think because she's still young, she hasn't been hardened / jaded by the stripper life yet. Plus it seems she has a genuine interest in me and doesn't see me purely as an ATM. We made plans to meetup in the FC this weekend and she didn't seem too concerned about the money I was giving her. When I offered a modest amount to test the waters, she simply asked if we could meet on Sunday instead of Saturday since Saturday is the day she makes the most money at the club. What she makes at the club is 3-10x more than what I offered her, so I expected her to ditch me but she's still very much interested. Ironically I think she used the SD site more as a match. Com dating site rather than as a way to purely to get paid the highest dollar possible. It seems like she has daddy issues and she's primarily looking for a older guy to give her emotional support with financial support being secondary. But I guess we'll see how we connect this weekend. Her looks and body are flawless, and unlike the recent hotties I was seeing, I'm going to be banging this one right out the gate.
[b]Escort Baby Duex[/b]
I have a bad habit of trying to have quasi-SB / SD arrangements with escorts. Usually I attempt this with someone who has maybe just posted 1-2 BP ads total and only been escorting for a couple months or less. I can usually tell when the girl is fairly fresh when they still have sex like a "normal" girl or they still seem a bit lost. With these girls I try to turn them into Escort babies. Essentially it just means txting them casually sometimes and getting them to do "off-menu" stuff and turning off the "hourly" timer. I'm not trying to get them to stop escorting entirely. But usually these girls I identified don't want to actually escort full-time. They prefer to be UTR and maybe build up a small reliable client base. So for low-volume new girls, my offer can be appealing because it gives them a way to retreat to Under the Radar. And it's appealing to me because it gives me a reliable backup option. I get the reliability of an escort when it comes to setting up the FC appointment and the flexibility of a SB in the bedroom with the time restrictions removed.
I basically call an escort an Escort Baby when I'm able to do the following:
- Text her to say "Hi" or she texts me to chat briefly.
- In the bedroom I can kiss her and other typical "GFE" type stuff.
- And the most important and defining quality, there's no specific time constraints on our meeting. I give her the agreed upon $ and we stay at the FC as long as I feel like (within reason). There's no 140 for a half-hour non-sense. It's 140 until I'm ready to go home.
Okay now that I got that preamble on Escort Babies out of the way, I saw an escort a few nights ago. We clicked pretty well, and in my mind I considered her as a possible [i]candidate[/i]. But sugar daddy / sugar baby arrangements are still a tricky subject to bring up to an escort because if you're not careful, they may think you're trying to be their Pimp. So I actually didn't bring it up with this girl in person. But the next day, on a lark I decided to just throw the offer out there to her via text, I didn't really expect a response. But within a few minutes later she responded and was very interested. She wasn't 100% on all the details of a SD / SB arrangement was, so I had to explain some additional stuff to her. She basically texted me continuously for the next day and a half about random topics and she gave me her real name (or at least a name different from her Escort name). We're suppose to meet again this Saturday. I won't be giving her any more than her "escort rate" when I saw earlier this week and she already said she would do "off-menu" things. The final question is whether I can get unlimited time for the same $, we haven't discussed that yet. But it looks promising.
I've been surprised how quickly she opened up to me. But she said she doesn't do this often and was impressed how much a gentlemen I was. So whether you're dealing with SBs, Strippers, UTRs, Pros, and etc, just acting like a gentlemen can get you a lot more mileage and occasionally you may get surprised. With these two girls, I'm technically not dealing with SBs according to our "amateur status" definition. But I've managed to get a personal touch with these UTR / Pro girls because I properly identified their rookie status and I treated them with respect.
The past couple of months have been pretty crazy for me, so I have no idea where I'll be even 2-3 weeks from now.
Remember the title of this forum
[QUOTE=John G Smith;1711623]I'm technically not dealing with SBs according to our "amateur status" definition. But I've managed to get a personal touch with these UTR / Pro girls because I properly identified their rookie status and I treated them with respect.[/QUOTE]Mr. Smith,
Before the self rationalizers get their panties in a knot. They need to realize the title of this forum is: Sugerbabies / Arrangements Amateurs or Not?
Mr. Literal opened the forum with that question in mind. So, IMHO your post is right on point because your are clearly making an arrangement. Furthermore I would argue that each and every person who is married has made a legal arrangement with their spouse. And if you don't think so then you have never been divorced. Hehe!
Go Deep, Go HAM and Prosper!
SubCmdr out!