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[QUOTE=Jsc629; 1891442]I PM'd you back, but for the open board: it's all about time (trust) and of course money. They're more like higher-end girls (probably because of their looks, except for Tina) not like SW's who you can barely look in the face. Again, if you can afford it, it's worth it. That's my experience.
And, yes, Miranda has been gone for several months.[/QUOTE]I've got to say, I've read lots of reports and traded info through PM and emails, and I have to say that you are the first that I have ever heard that got more than the happy ending and some roaming hands. I mean it is possible. Just from the history and such, you're either a bull shitter, or just very patient and very lucky.
I know how to play the game about building trust and spending money over time. I've been there and done that (most of the time regretfully). She just never struck me or others at the type to offer any more than the above.
Either way, good luck to you and congrats on your success (perceived or not).
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[QUOTE=Voyrinsc; 1891740]I've got to say, I've read lots of reports and traded info through PM and emails, and I have to say that you are the first that I have ever heard that got more than the happy ending and some roaming hands. I mean it is possible. Just from the history and such, you're either a bull shitter, or just very patient and very lucky.
I know how to play the game about building trust and spending money over time. I've been there and done that (most of the time regretfully). She just never struck me or others at the type to offer any more than the above.
Either way, good luck to you and congrats on your success (perceived or not).[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm spending more money than others are, and if that's the case, so be it. Want the numbers? 85 at the desk. 200 in the room. That's what works for me and, frankly, I find that to be not much for what you get. If someone is trying to get more for less, I'd say that's a big factor in why they're only getting the minimum treatment.
As for whether I'm a bullshitter, people are free to think that if they wish. Doesn't matter to me. I'm just sharing what I know, and if there are people reading this board who are like me and prefer (and can afford) better looking girls than you'd find on the street or in a risky hotel situation, then this place (and Jags or even Silk sometimes) is where they can find it. By the way, there was a similar conversation about spending money at Jags and it seems that the people who want to spend the least are the ones who never get anything good and scoff at those who do. I'm not saying that's you, personally, just my general experiences on boards like this.
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[QUOTE=Jsc629; 1891442]I PM'd you back, but for the open board: it's all about time (trust) and of course money. They're more like higher-end girls (probably because of their looks, except for Tina) not like SW's who you can barely look in the face. Again, if you can afford it, it's worth it. That's my experience.
And, yes, Miranda has been gone for several months.[/QUOTE]So how much do you have to currently spent to reach a higher plateau?
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[QUOTE=Jsc629; 1891834]Maybe I'm spending more money than others are, and if that's the case, so be it. Want the numbers? 85 at the desk. 200 in the room. That's what works for me and, frankly, I find that to be not much for what you get. If someone is trying to get more for less, I'd say that's a big factor in why they're only getting the minimum treatment.
As for whether I'm a bullshitter, people are free to think that if they wish. Doesn't matter to me. I'm just sharing what I know, and if there are people reading this board who are like me and prefer (and can afford) better looking girls than you'd find on the street or in a risky hotel situation, then this place (and Jags or even Silk sometimes) is where they can find it. By the way, there was a similar conversation about spending money at Jags and it seems that the people who want to spend the least are the ones who never get anything good and scoff at those who do. I'm not saying that's you, personally, just my general experiences on boards like this.[/QUOTE]You have to understand the preponderance of the evidence suggests that one can't get anything other than a helpful hand from certain individuals at Vitality. I'm not saying it can't be done. Just look at it from my side and you might see what I mean.
I think you may be correct in assuming that you are likely spending more money than others are. Early in this hobby, I went to Chicago for a conference and found a girl named Jasmine. She came with reviews and was supposed to be great. I dropped $400. Just not worth it to me afterwards. I've dropped $300 since with another provider and just not felt like the cost was worth it. I think my top end is around $200. Maybe that is my problem with some of the massage girls. I guess I look at the opportunity costs and figure that any more than $200 and I can probably enjoy two sessions that are near equally as enjoyable. One of my ATF's that is no longer in the biz was only $150 and hour. I had so much fun that I dropped another $150 for another round and truly felt it was worth it, but again that is a different thing.
Perhaps you and I are at different ends of this hobby. I suspect we are. I have been where you were and was willing to drop big money for really fine women only to find out that the experience left me lacking. So my experience has been different. On the flip side, things may have changed in this business and perhaps the market has changed to the point where some really hot girls are now making it worthwhile and looking for repeat business rather than one time hits where they get your money and run. If you are enjoying yourself. More power to you. You may just have hit on the diamond that few of us can find. Have a good weekend!
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[QUOTE=Voyrinsc; 1892859]You have to understand the preponderance of the evidence suggests that one can't get anything other than a helpful hand from certain individuals at Vitality. I'm not saying it can't be done. Just look at it from my side and you might see what I mean.
I think you may be correct in assuming that you are likely spending more money than others are. Early in this hobby, I went to Chicago for a conference and found a girl named Jasmine. She came with reviews and was supposed to be great. I dropped $400. Just not worth it to me afterwards. I've dropped $300 since with another provider and just not felt like the cost was worth it. I think my top end is around $200. Maybe that is my problem with some of the massage girls. I guess I look at the opportunity costs and figure that any more than $200 and I can probably enjoy two sessions that are near equally as enjoyable. One of my ATF's that is no longer in the biz was only $150 and hour. I had so much fun that I dropped another $150 for another round and truly felt it was worth it, but again that is a different thing.
Perhaps you and I are at different ends of this hobby. I suspect we are. I have been where you were and was willing to drop big money for really fine women only to find out that the experience left me lacking. So my experience has been different. On the flip side, things may have changed in this business and perhaps the market has changed to the point where some really hot girls are now making it worthwhile and looking for repeat business rather than one time hits where they get your money and run. If you are enjoying yourself. More power to you. You may just have hit on the diamond that few of us can find. Have a good weekend![/QUOTE]I'm sorry but for close to $300. 00 I expect a heck of a lot more that a girl in a room with a massage table that everyone out side the room can hear every word.
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Zen
Visited last night, rang the bell and met by Paula. My guess early 40s a bit overweight, but great smile and attitude with excellent English. On the way to the TS saw a very cute young spinner, she said there are 3 girls and two are spinners. TS was excellent, took her time and washed everywhere and actually massage like. In the room asked how I would like the massage, told her medium and that is exactly what I got. Best massage at Zen yet, woman knows exactly what she is doing. A bit chatty, but not intrusive. Fun time will surely repeat and must try out the spinner, very cute.
Jack
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Summerville AMP
Forgot, initially tried to go to Summerville, got there late afternoon, door locked and small hand-written sign, closed open next week. Any clues?
Jack
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Summerville
Article on live 5 news website yesterday they got busted.
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Main St Summerville
The note will be there for a while. Check local contacts for more info. They are remodeling. Sort of a gray color, and stripes. Use caution.
MM
[QUOTE=Member #4063; 1894157]Forgot, initially tried to go to Summerville, got there late afternoon, door locked and small hand-written sign, closed open next week. Any clues?
Jack[/QUOTE]
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Link
[QUOTE=MedicMan469; 1894515]The note will be there for a while. Check local contacts for more info. They are remodeling. Sort of a gray color, and stripes. Use caution.
MM[/QUOTE]Here is the link.
[url]http://summervilledorchestercounty.live5news.com/news/news/105892-detectives-go-undercover-arrest-massage-parlor-employee-prostitution[/url]
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Summervile AMP
Bummer, the place was nice, but in an exposed place on a busy street. Not surprised.
Jack
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Zen
Is Zen going to be next?
[QUOTE=ChasMale; 1894809]Here is the link.
[url]http://summervilledorchestercounty.live5news.com/news/news/105892-detectives-go-undercover-arrest-massage-parlor-employee-prostitution[/url][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Member #4063; 1895048]Bummer, the place was nice, but in an exposed place on a busy street. Not surprised.
Jack[/QUOTE]Plus the Police station and the Mayors office was just across the street. Years ago industrial parks was the prime location. Keep it quite and out of sight.
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Look who is open
Looks like the place in the 'Ville has opened back up. Be careful! Just a reminder this place was busted last week.
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[QUOTE=ChasMale;1895120]Plus the Police station and the Mayors office was just across the street. Years ago industrial parks was the prime location. Keep it quite and out of sight.[/QUOTE]2 New BP listing?
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