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Cmdr Strategy
[QUOTE=Bondo500; 1466353]Okay forum. How do you handle this one?
I am early with an SB. No monthly allowance yet, pay as you go as only one date so far. So date #2 she texts me in the afternoon "I am down for maintenance, how do you want to proceed". Not a nando 1 but likely the extra money is helpful which I understand. Do you:
1) Still provide full allowance for reduced or no service rendered.
2) Prorate allowance or.
3) Cancel appointment.
Curious how this works. LTF is different but what's the strategy? Let me know.
Bondo[/QUOTE]My Man!
I'd make and inquiry to see if there were any serious pending expenses. Let her know that you would have to make a special trip just to get some sugar to her. Let her know that there are other ways to take care of you. If she refuses, then she did not need the sugar.
Have her give you some head in the car or other discreet place. Make sure your put your hand firmly behind her head and thrust deep into her throat when you are about to cum. Don't worry about he gaging noises and the tears, she'll get over it. If she gets upset afterwards, claim you just lost yourself in the moment. If she is not smiling then maybe that will provide incentive to her to either improve her money management skills or to work on her deep throat technique. If she is smiling, then you just discovered a new natural ability. Either way, slip her the needed sugar. Be on your way.
This is a prime example of a mutually beneficial relationship. You have satisfied her need. And you have established a quickie mode of operation for any future testicular emergencies that you may have. Or additional impromptu sugar requests that she may have.
Chief of the boat prepare to dive!
SubCmdr Our. Running silent, running deep
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Nando1 experiences
I enjoy reading about the different SB types that we all seem to have run across, but the ones that seem the most interesting to me are the Nando1s. I agree that they are a dangerous breed, and I do try to steer clear, but some are not as obvious as others when you first meet them, then POW, they seem to turn on you and turn from sweet to wacky in minutes.
Since I seriously started into this version of the hobby back in Feb, I have probably met personally with 12 potentials, been to the FC with 7 of them, and am still in touch with 5 on an irregular basis. 2 of the 4 that I am still in contact with fall marginally into the Nando1 category. These 2 both have some means of employment, but rely on sugar for part of their daily needs. Both are over an hour drive for me and both hit me up this week for an "advance" on their allowance. This is the first time request of this type from either of them, but I thought it interesting that I get 2 requests out of the blue in the same week.
Of course, neither of them got the money they were looking for, but I did find it hard to come up with any real reason for not coming to the rescue. Both know that I have the resources to help them out. One needed money to stay the night in a hotel (I'm pretty sure she is in an abusive relationship) , and the other just got kicked out of her parents house (she is 21 and jobless right now).
Without the advice from this board, I might have caved and sent cash to both of them. Who knows where that would have led.
The other 3 SBs that I keep in the stable are all pretty well grounded with either a decent job or living the college life, so I have enough backup talent (for now anyway) in case any one goes "down for maintenance" (I love that term. Hadn't heard that one before). So life is still good.
Keep up the great posts.
Alias
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Alternatives
[QUOTE=Bondo500; 1466353]Okay forum. How do you handle this one?
I am early with an SB. No monthly allowance yet, pay as you go as only one date so far. So date #2 she texts me in the afternoon "I am down for maintenance, how do you want to proceed". Not a nando 1 but likely the extra money is helpful which I understand. Do you:
1) Still provide full allowance for reduced or no service rendered.
2) Prorate allowance or.
3) Cancel appointment.
Curious how this works. LTF is different but what's the strategy? Let me know.
Bondo[/QUOTE]As the Cmdr says, there are other ways for her to ensure you are satisfied. I might approach it a little differently than he, but he illustrates the different point. I would not provide full allowance for a date where NO service is rendered. The SB knows the drill; allowance for sexual attention. So, have a talk with her and find out just how much she needs the allowance. If she's not desperate, then maybe you take a week off. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, as they say. Or, if she does need the cash, talk about what you'd like to do with her. Make it a fun, sexy, and / or flirty conversation. Then, suggest allowance accordingly.
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SBs with Kids
So I had a very nice M&G a couple of days ago with a very nice, attractive 25yo college student. We hit it off really well. Early on in the conversation she did mention that she has two kids. I have always appreciated SBs that have put in their profile if they had kids or not. I also have generally avoided those profiles. I guess I figured kids mean potential for both scheduling problems as well as additional drama to the relationship. I really liked this woman and we did decide to meet this week to see if we have a physical match. I'm obviously looking forward to that! My question for the group is,"Do kids matter to you?"
Thanks in advance for your responses.
Drummer
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Kids
I personally am ok with kids, but then again I have kids myself so I am less freaked out I guess.
It also gives us something in common to talk about which is nice.
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Kids
[QUOTE=Atldrummer; 1466810]So I had a very nice M&G a couple of days ago with a very nice, attractive 25yo college student. We hit it off really well. Early on in the conversation she did mention that she has two kids. I have always appreciated SBs that have put in their profile if they had kids or not. I also have generally avoided those profiles. I guess I figured kids mean potential for both scheduling problems as well as additional drama to the relationship. I really liked this woman and we did decide to meet this week to see if we have a physical match. I'm obviously looking forward to that! My question for the group is,"Do kids matter to you?"
Thanks in advance for your responses.
Drummer[/QUOTE]You are correct that kids have the potential to cause scheduling issues. My ATF has multiple kids, including one who is too young for school, so we're always working around the times when she has the kids. That said, she is willing to get a sitter from time to time and has never asked me to pay for that.
As far as drama, there's often the potential for that, especially if the estranged baby-daddy is in the picture. So far, that hasn't been too much of a problem for me, though. Knock on wood.
I say if you like the girl and think she has potential, give her a try for a while, kids or not. I'm interested to hear other perspectives, though.
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Armada of Babysitters
[QUOTE=JoesParty; 1467007]You are correct that kids have the potential to cause scheduling issues. My ATF has multiple kids, including one who is too young for school, so we're always working around the times when she has the kids. That said, she is willing to get a sitter from time to time and has never asked me to pay for that.
As far as drama, there's often the potential for that, especially if the estranged baby-daddy is in the picture. So far, that hasn't been too much of a problem for me, though. Knock on wood.
I say if you like the girl and think she has potential, give her a try for a while, kids or not. I'm interested to hear other perspectives, though.[/QUOTE]When discussing scheduling she did say she had an armada of baby sitters ready on call as long as I gave her advanced not.
Notice.
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Children
Personally I do not care but it does tend to make scheduling more of a problem. Can they stay out late (I prefer overnites) , certain times are out, etc. But it would not stop me from dating a woman.
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The Laundromat Gambit
I'm in the NoVA area but decided to post this here because I've been so inspired by this thread and the great work you guys are doing in the UTR SB scene. We don't have much if any active discussion up our way.
About a month ago I had a need to use a commercial laundromat to wash some big-ass stuff that wouldn't fit in my little apartment machines. I picked one at random in my neighborhood. To my pleasant surprise, the customer demographic was at least 95% female and at least 95% latino and mostly on the younger side of 35.
While waiting for my stuff, I sat and watched them folding piles of stuff from the dryers and noticed several piles which did contain kids clothes, did not contain any mens clothing and were being folded by woman not wearing rings.
I scared the first one off with a little bit too much of a pervy approach. I settled down and got my lines straight. The jist of what finally worked for me (after going back on separate occasions and to different laundromats) :
- I remember when my kids were that age.
- Mine are all grown up now. I miss them. I'm all alone now and very lonely.
- How old are yours?
- I was a single father who raised two boys. I know how tearably expensive that can be.
- I wish there was some way I could help you out.
Lots of other stuff mixed in to get past the language barrier but those are the key points of the progression that makes them understand the opportunity without running for the door.
- Offer to help carry baskets out as an opportunity to get their phone number without their friends watching them.
So far, I've got two phone numbers. Progressed only one so far to a car date with BBBJ for. 35. Supposed to meet again soon.
Why oh why did I take French in High School instead of Spanish. Oh, I remember, the French teacher was the 30 year old with the DD and tight tops. Damn.
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Best fishing times on SA
When is the best fishing time on SA. Well I have had the best results by focussing on time on SA for the fish.
The first group, which usually gives great results, are the ones who have been on for a while now, a few weeks to a few months. By that time they have become reasonable, they don't have GPS syndrome (Golden Pussy Syndrome) (Look below for a quick story) , and they have had enough unsuccessful m&g to know what to do.
The second group is the very new ones, They are usually inundated with emails, but by keeping it very low key, they bite quicker than by being very direct. They are a bit shy, so with a bit of coaxing you can be the first one to have them nibble on the hook. They have not been spied by the males who are 'zillionaires' in 'Ferrari's"
A quick GPS story. Had a m&g, all went well and she wanted to go to the casino, after the m&g. I was game till she mentioned she expected to be able to play with $25, 000 of my money, because she always won. Mmmm always winning, yet you need my $ We left the Starbucks. 1/2 mile down the road I mentioned I had to pic up something from the big department store, she waited in the car, I bought a monopoly game, took all the $ out, and went back to the car. I smiled when I handed her the $ and said here is your $$. She got furious and stepped out.
Back to the 'euro-crisis'
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[QUOTE=EuroInCincy; 1468125]When is the best fishing time on SA. Well I have had the best results by focussing on time on SA for the fish.
The first group, which usually gives great results, are the ones who have been on for a while now, a few weeks to a few months. By that time they have become reasonable, they don't have GPS syndrome (Golden Pussy Syndrome) (Look below for a quick story) , and they have had enough unsuccessful m&g to know what to do.
The second group is the very new ones, They are usually inundated with emails, but by keeping it very low key, they bite quicker than by being very direct. They are a bit shy, so with a bit of coaxing you can be the first one to have them nibble on the hook. They have not been spied by the males who are 'zillionaires' in 'Ferrari's"
A quick GPS story. Had a m&g, all went well and she wanted to go to the casino, after the m&g. I was game till she mentioned she expected to be able to play with $25, 000 of my money, because she always won. Mmmm always winning, yet you need my $ We left the Starbucks. 1/2 mile down the road I mentioned I had to pic up something from the big department store, she waited in the car, I bought a monopoly game, took all the $ out, and went back to the car. I smiled when I handed her the $ and said here is your $$. She got furious and stepped out.
Back to the 'euro-crisis'[/QUOTE]Euro: you are right on money. I concur with the observation though I am new. But did see the two groups exists. First group (experienced) are very direct and know what they want. Second (newbie) are very difficult. I felt like I am just doing communications and luncheons. U dud good on your GPS. Learned a new trick.
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Types of fish
I agree. The fresh accounts you have to coax out of their shells. See my earlier missive on this while traveling.
The second older profiles come in two types. Roughly. LOL.
1. Sb who got spoiled with rich sd in the past and is not interested in me at all.
2. Sb who has had some success, but is now down on luck and in a dry spell. Sometimes it pays to send messages to girls that look as if they are players, but who have not logged on a while. Create a nice message, then use copy and paste to send it out to all that might look interesting. Always change the first sentence to personalize it to their profile, I. E. Mention something they say in their profile so they think the entire message is JUST for them. LOL.
I have gotten two like this. I get a reply weeks later!
It's a numbers game, the more hooks you put out there, the more bites you will get. How good you are at landing them is what counts. But that is why there are fishing competitions. Right?
Have fun,
GW.
[QUOTE=EuroInCincy; 1468125]When is the best fishing time on SA. Well I have had the best results by focussing on time on SA for the fish.
The first group, which usually gives great results, are the ones who have been on for a while now, a few weeks to a few months. By that time they have become reasonable, they don't have GPS syndrome (Golden Pussy Syndrome) (Look below for a quick story) , and they have had enough unsuccessful m&g to know what to do.
The second group is the very new ones, They are usually inundated with emails, but by keeping it very low key, they bite quicker than by being very direct. They are a bit shy, so with a bit of coaxing you can be the first one to have them nibble on the hook. They have not been spied by the males who are 'zillionaires' in 'Ferrari's"
A quick GPS story. Had a m&g, all went well and she wanted to go to the casino, after the m&g. I was game till she mentioned she expected to be able to play with $25, 000 of my money, because she always won. Mmmm always winning, yet you need my $ We left the Starbucks. 1/2 mile down the road I mentioned I had to pic up something from the big department store, she waited in the car, I bought a monopoly game, took all the $ out, and went back to the car. I smiled when I handed her the $ and said here is your $$. She got furious and stepped out.
Back to the 'euro-crisis'[/QUOTE]
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Hopefully No sex for me!
Gentlemen & Lady,
If I have any sexual contact for the next 10 days, it will be a very very bad thing!
I am about to embark on a 1000 mile road-trip due north into the wilds of Northern Ontario with my Father, Uncle and Cousin for a week's long Walleye / Pike fishing and Bourbon tasting extravaganza.
We are bringing the boat and literally heading as far north as you can possibly drive until the ice roads come it. It should be a fantastic trip, and I am looking forward to the midnight sun during the coming solstice. I've never experienced that before.
However if any sexual contact does occur with me. It would have been from either:
-A male family member.
-A Sasquatch.
-A female northern Ontarian (who tend to strongly resemble Sasquatch)
Frankly, I think my heads can use a about of celibacy for a few days to regroup and re-evaluate things. This should be refreshing.
Good luck to you all on your continuing adventures. And be safe!
-Chi
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Bon voyage!
[QUOTE=ChiGuy606; 1471831]A week's long Walleye / Pike fishing and Bourbon tasting extravaganza.
We are bringing the boat and literally heading as far north as you can possibly drive until the ice roads come in.
-Chi[/QUOTE]God, that sounds like heaven! Have a great time, and don't worry about the Chicago babies. I'll do my best to keep an eye on every last one of them!
"Oh I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok."
Scott
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Laundromat
[QUOTE=Ycwinva; 1467767]Lots of other stuff mixed in to get past the language barrier but those are the key points of the progression that makes them understand the opportunity without running for the door.
- Offer to help carry baskets out as an opportunity to get their phone number without their friends watching them.
So far, I've got two phone numbers. Progressed only one so far to a car date with BBBJ for. 35. Supposed to meet again soon.[/QUOTE]Sweet; great and very creative approach there Ycw. In that demographic you are apt to find many who need some help, and who better to help them out than a generous older gent with some loose foldin money in his pocket. Hopefully one of these events will develop into something that resembles a keeper for you. You go dude.