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Marteena from Gurnee has a profile on several sugar daddy sites including SA. She's 30 and looking for a SD. I have not seen her and don't plan to, but if any seniors want her number PM me.
"Looking for a NSA arrangement. We meet either weekly or biweekly long term. I just want to pay my rent, live comfortably and meet new people =) I'm serious about this, so I hope you are too. ".
I am starting to dip my toes in the SD world. I upgraded my account and started messaging some ladies. So far got some interest. Anyone here got a good pulse on the scene or tips. It looks like the Milwaukee board is active. I might head there since I'm in mke often too.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2938892]I am starting to dip my toes in the SD world. I upgraded my account and started messaging some ladies. So far got some interest. Anyone here got a good pulse on the scene or tips. It looks like the Milwaukee board is active. I might head there since I'm in mke often too.[/QUOTE]So one day on the site and I meet a hot 20 something and I head over to her place. The sugar was a little too sweet but wow. On top of that I have two solid leads for some college babes and well see where that is at.
So my initial impression of the gal is she is not a pro. I mean I guess she is in the semipro leagues, but she acted like a civie, the whole getting to know you thing and comfort level. I might have to change my mindset with the SBs. I think they want to see themselves as a nsa with some extra monetary benefits. Must be a psychological distinction in their heads to do the sd / sb thing.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2939406]So one day on the site and I meet a hot 20 something and I head over to her place. The sugar was a little too sweet but wow. On top of that I have two solid leads for some college babes and well see where that is at.
So my initial impression of the gal is she is not a pro. I mean I guess she is in the semipro leagues, but she acted like a civie, the whole getting to know you thing and comfort level. I might have to change my mindset with the SBs. I think they want to see themselves as a nsa with some extra monetary benefits. Must be a psychological distinction in their heads to do the sd / sb thing.[/QUOTE]Let me weigh in my $0. 02 here. I've been hitting up the SB scene a lot more than the professionals lately and I've found it to be a gold mine. Yes, it does take a little more work to find the girls with reasonable expectations and are ok with the idea of P4 P (unless you're planning regular meetings with the same girl for a long time, the whole allowance arrangement is just $ down the drain if you ask me). I've run into a couple of pros (and even some retired porn stars) on SA, but I'll agree that most are civvies who view being a SB as being more socially acceptable than a provider.
The biggest benefit, IMHO, with the SBs is the fact that on these dates there has been a much lower chance of clock watching. My usual MO is to meet the SBs for dinner / drinks then head back to someone's place for private time. Rather than a provider's expectation that private time would be an hour or 90 min, the SBs, on more than one occasion, have expected to spend the night. This has usually resulted in a truly GFE experience with multiple rounds and some very pleasant conversation / teasing in between. When they're no clock, there's no pressure. And since many of the girls truly look at this as a real date as opposed to a "date" with a provider, they can be a lot of fun.
As with all arrangements (professional vs. Civilian), the expectations for gifts varies, but I've found that some great experiences can be had with a SB for $$$ - $$ To give you reference, the same experience with a provider would run anywhere from $$ - $$ (again, primarily because of the difference in time expectations between the two groups, as my dates with SBs usually runs at least 2 hours, but has regularly ended up as overnights).
Now, one last bit of advice I have. Most of the SBs come into an arrangement knowing that intimacy is expected. HOWEVER, not all of them do, read some profiles and you'll spot a couple of them who will say that they are not cool with anything physical. I've always made it a point to ask the girls if they are cool with this (as up front as I can be w / o making a girl feel like I intend to just use them). Also, when transitioning from dinner to wherever private time will be, I ask one last time if they are going to be ok if we end up hooking up (remember these girls don't consider themselves pros, so I've found that term to be most acceptable to them). I've had a few say they weren't cool with this while we were still messaging, and only one ever say no when we were getting ready to head out from dinner. While it means that some time and effort were spent in vain, the thought of what might have happened if I hadn't been cautious was motivation enough to playing it safe.
Anyway, just wanted to share my perspective / experience with the SD / SB world. There's a lot to be said for finding a SB and I'm glad I took the plunge.
[QUOTE=SteamTrain98;2943216]
As with all arrangements (professional vs. Civilian), the expectations for gifts varies, but I've found that some great experiences can be had with a SB for $$$ - $$ To give you reference, the same experience with a provider would run anywhere from $$ - $$ (again, primarily because of the difference in time expectations between the two groups, as my dates with SBs usually runs at least 2 hours, but has regularly ended up as overnights).[/QUOTE]Great advice and wisdom, I will heed carefully. One question, your quote for play above didn't translate well, can you trancribe $ = 1.
On another note I got stood up on my coffee date today. No idea why. Oh well my list just got one shorter.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2943978]Great advice and wisdom, I will heed carefully. One question, your quote for play above didn't translate well, can you trancribe $ = 1.
On another note I got stood up on my coffee date today. No idea why. Oh well my list just got one shorter.[/QUOTE]Hey good posts guys. I haven't tried the sugar bowl yet, but have been reading about it in case I want to give it a shot sometime. It's not cheap that's for sure. The best board for finding info is definitely the Richmond, VA board. It is literally several years of posts from different mongers sharing their experiences and expertise. It's a pretty interesting read- I've only been able to go through some of them. It's less about specific reviews and more about general strategy, topics, etc. Cincinnati, Knoxville, Vegas, and L. A I think also have forums to a lesser extent. Cincinnati is different in that they talk about specific gals on there.
Keep the posts coming here though. Chicago will mostly likely be more expensive than Richmond since it's a larger city- but saying that, it sounds like some of these women are delusional in their asking prices from what I've read. They get the Golden P**y syndrome. Unless you're Bill Gates or Donald Trump where money is no object, you have to next them. Sometimes they will cave and email you back and sometimes they won't. Plenty of times it seems like it's watching Pawn Stars where you have to negotiate. And they don't have the leverage- there's way more gals on there than guys willing to invest.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2943978]Great advice and wisdom, I will heed carefully. One question, your quote for play above didn't translate well, can you trancribe $ = 1.
On another note I got stood up on my coffee date today. No idea why. Oh well my list just got one shorter.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Sorry about that, the post screwed with my references. My typical SB is 3. $ - 5. $ where as the same service from a pro for similar would be anywhere from 5. $ - 15. $.
[QUOTE=Kellster;2944009]Hey good posts guys. I haven't tried the sugar bowl yet, but have been reading about it in case I want to give it a shot sometime. It's not cheap that's for sure. The best board for finding info is definitely the Richmond, VA board. It is literally several years of posts from different mongers sharing their experiences and expertise. It's a pretty interesting read- I've only been able to go through some of them. It's less about specific reviews and more about general strategy, topics, etc. Cincinnati, Knoxville, Vegas, and L. A I think also have forums to a lesser extent. Cincinnati is different in that they talk about specific gals on there.
Keep the posts coming here though. Chicago will mostly likely be more expensive than Richmond since it's a larger city- but saying that, it sounds like some of these women are delusional in their asking prices from what I've read. They get the Golden P**y syndrome. Unless you're Bill Gates or Donald Trump where money is no object, you have to next them. Sometimes they will cave and email you back and sometimes they won't. Plenty of times it seems like it's watching Pawn Stars where you have to negotiate. And they don't have the leverage- there's way more gals on there than guys willing to invest.[/QUOTE]I've met with SBs in several cities that I found on SA. I don't know if I necessarily agree that they expect more here in Chicago. They may ask for more (read as list themselves as looking for High or Practical arrangements), but if you build up a good rapport with them in chat, and they are OK with a gift per meeting rather than an allowance, they tend to be on par with what you'd expect from a pro for a 1 - 2 hour appointment (granted the appointment with the SB will likely be less strict as far as the clock is concerned). The girls tend to go high, assuming they'll end up in an arrangement much like the ones they are seeing on that new show on cable about hobbying, and find the next crusty old multi-millionaire who is willing to leave them 6-figures in his will just for the opportunity to roll around with a 20-something hottie. Give them a few months on the site and they either: a) reassess their expectations, or b) hold out in the hopes of hitting the jackpot.
Best advice I have is to be honest. I'm up-front with the girls about what I can offer (I'm not a multi-millionaire BTW, not by a long shot), so they know they can't expect me to be an ATM. However, the ones who I have met with look at me as a FWB who happens to support them how and when I can, with no illusions of anything more. Like I said in my first post, it's been a great experience.
[QUOTE=Zimbler;2931100]Marteena from Gurnee has a profile on several sugar daddy sites including SA. She's 30 and looking for a SD. I have not seen her and don't plan to, but if any seniors want her number PM me.
"Looking for a NSA arrangement. We meet either weekly or biweekly long term. I just want to pay my rent, live comfortably and meet new people =) I'm serious about this, so I hope you are too. ".[/QUOTE]So buyer really really beware if you take the plunge with that one.
[QUOTE=SteamTrain98;2944808]I've met with SBs in several cities that I found on SA. I don't know if I necessarily agree that they expect more here in Chicago. They may ask for more (read as list themselves as looking for High or Practical arrangements), but if you build up a good rapport with them in chat, and they are OK with a gift per meeting rather than an allowance, they tend to be on par with what you'd expect from a pro for a 1 - 2 hour appointment (granted the appointment with the SB will likely be less strict as far as the clock is concerned). The girls tend to go high, assuming they'll end up in an arrangement much like the ones they are seeing on that new show on cable about hobbying, and find the next crusty old multi-millionaire who is willing to leave them 6-figures in his will just for the opportunity to roll around with a 20-something hottie. Give them a few months on the site and they either: a) reassess their expectations, or b) hold out in the hopes of hitting the jackpot.
Best advice I have is to be honest. I'm up-front with the girls about what I can offer (I'm not a multi-millionaire BTW, not by a long shot), so they know they can't expect me to be an ATM. However, the ones who I have met with look at me as a FWB who happens to support them how and when I can, with no illusions of anything more. Like I said in my first post, it's been a great experience.[/QUOTE]Hey Steam Train, you bring up something interesting that I just took for granted. I filter my searches by expectation level (negotiable and minimal only) so that cuts down my search results. I'm in the same boat where I budget a set amount and the other tiers blow that budget, but it seems you work the SB in those tiers to the 3 $-5 $ range. Hows your experience bringing them down to that level? Any interesting correlations about SBs personality and thier asking tier?
I really like your apporaoch to the bowl, thanks for the guidance!
BTW looking to line up something for later this week. Got a couple on the line, one of which is definitely a step above the semipros (probably more like in the farm system at AA level). Will keep posted.
[QUOTE=Kellster;2944009]Hey good posts guys. I haven't tried the sugar bowl yet, but have been reading about it in case I want to give it a shot sometime. It's not cheap that's for sure. The best board for finding info is definitely the Richmond, VA board. It is literally several years of posts from different mongers sharing their experiences and expertise. It's a pretty interesting read- I've only been able to go through some of them. It's less about specific reviews and more about general strategy, topics, etc. Cincinnati, Knoxville, Vegas, and L. A I think also have forums to a lesser extent. Cincinnati is different in that they talk about specific gals on there.
Keep the posts coming here though. Chicago will mostly likely be more expensive than Richmond since it's a larger city- but saying that, it sounds like some of these women are delusional in their asking prices from what I've read. They get the Golden P**y syndrome. Unless you're Bill Gates or Donald Trump where money is no object, you have to next them. Sometimes they will cave and email you back and sometimes they won't. Plenty of times it seems like it's watching Pawn Stars where you have to negotiate. And they don't have the leverage- there's way more gals on there than guys willing to invest.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Richmond suggestion, I knew about it a year ago when I was wondering about it a year agobut I haven't looked at is since. Your right there is a lot of good game theory going on there. Will definitely keep perusing that board for more tips. As for cost I don't have a ton of data but I am seeing 5 $ as the standard starting point but I think that is negotiable, case in point I got a potential SB down to 3. Speaking of which, I am unsure about discussing handles openly or not. I'm not sure if I like the Cincinnati approach better than the Richmond approach or maybe somewhere in between. Are Sbs aware of this site? Thoughts guys?
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2945491]Thanks for the Richmond suggestion, I knew about it a year ago when I was wondering about it a year agobut I haven't looked at is since. Your right there is a lot of good game theory going on there. Will definitely keep perusing that board for more tips. As for cost I don't have a ton of data but I am seeing 5 $ as the standard starting point but I think that is negotiable, case in point I got a potential SB down to 3. Speaking of which, I am unsure about discussing handles openly or not. I'm not sure if I like the Cincinnati approach better than the Richmond approach or maybe somewhere in between. Are Sbs aware of this site? Thoughts guys?[/QUOTE]Chicago runs about 2 $-5 $but the dates last anywhere from 2-5 hours. So its still way cheaper as far as quality.
[QUOTE=RobTaylor;2951645]Chicago runs about 2 $-5 $but the dates last anywhere from 2-5 hours. So its still way cheaper as far as quality.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming that's just for the gift part. I would assume you'd have to pay for a nice hotel room and possibly drinks / dinner as well, which adds to the total.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2945491]Thanks for the Richmond suggestion, I knew about it a year ago when I was wondering about it a year agobut I haven't looked at is since. Your right there is a lot of good game theory going on there. Will definitely keep perusing that board for more tips. As for cost I don't have a ton of data but I am seeing 5 $ as the standard starting point but I think that is negotiable, case in point I got a potential SB down to 3. Speaking of which, I am unsure about discussing handles openly or not. I'm not sure if I like the Cincinnati approach better than the Richmond approach or maybe somewhere in between. Are Sbs aware of this site? Thoughts guys?[/QUOTE]I like the Cincinnati approach where gals are reviewed, but I'm not in the Bowl, so take my preference with a grain of salt. I can see both sides of it.