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Bobby Gunn
07-07-11, 22:38
AMP Tips And Guidelines
Here are some tips and etiquette for visitors looking for extras in an AMP (Asian Massage Parlor). I'm one who prefers the AMPs to the other mongering options because they seem to provide a safe and relaxing environment. I wanted to share some general information in a number of sections and decided to do it here instead as more people are likely to view it and add on. I hope this can help any newbies to AMPs or jog the memory of AMP experts to dish out some tips of their own.
1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.
2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.
3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times,"have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.
3a) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!
3b) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.
4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.
5) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.
6) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.
7) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.
8) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.
9) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.
10) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.
11) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing.
12) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.
13) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.
14) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.
15) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.
Dirty Old Guy
07-07-11, 23:48
Bobby,
Very good guide for newbies. You put some thought into this one. I live on the mainland (Phoenix). After reading some of the posts from some newbies over here can I suggest that you post this here in the massage section (hell, in ALL the city secions)? It might help some of the new guys, and refresh some of us old guys as well.
Thanks,
Dirty.
AMP Tips And Guidelines
Here are some tips and etiquette for visitors looking for extras in an AMP (Asian Massage Parlor). I'm one who prefers the AMPs to the other mongering options because they seem to provide a safe and relaxing environment. I wanted to share some general information in a number of sections and decided to do it here instead as more people are likely to view it and add on. I hope this can help any newbies to AMPs or jog the memory of AMP experts to dish out some tips of their own.
1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.
2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.
3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times,"have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.
3a) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!
3b) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.
4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.
5) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.
6) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.
7) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.
8) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.
9) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.
10) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.
11) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing.
12) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.
13) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.
14) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.
15) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.
Other advice, be scepticle about anything they say. Remember, there goal is to get you to come back so if it's telling you you're soo good looking or nice or whatever, they'll do it. There job is sales if you realized it or not and anyone who has been in sales can tell you bullshitting is part of the job, nothing personal. Another thing is, only take them out of the AMP if you are seeing multiple woman or as the young folks like to say player. Believe me, they don't focus only on you, far from it and so you shouldn't fall for them either. As one monger recently posted, prostitutes get there emotional needs taken care of by her customers, they only need you for an outward appearance so you'll only end up heartbroken relying on her to take care of your needs. Yes I do know some have bfs and husbands but I truly believe everyone of these men in these type of relationships are seeing other woman also. And when amping, no prostitute is going to admit she has an s. O, none. Believe me, I knew before hand some who have, this island is soo small, but they lied to me every time and understandably so, there business relies on people knowing she is available.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2291-AMP-Tips-and-Guidelines&p=351682#post351682
Other advice, be scepticle.Sorry, couldn't help but point out something funny about your typo here Oldie:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scepticle
Sorry, couldn't help but point out something funny about your typo here Oldie:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scepticleThe word 'existence' is misspelled (existance) in the definition!
Sorry, couldn't help but point out something funny about your typo here Oldie:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scepticleThats funny- totally nonintentional of course.
The word 'existence' is misspelled (existance) in the definition!Well, it is "urban dictionary" after all, LOL!
I have usually done my homework by the time I arrive at a particular AMP so I have a good idea who they are but if it is my first time there they don't know who I am. If I get the nervous probing questions I usually playfully step into them for a hug and a friendly probe of their kitty. I have never been rebuffed or turned away as if I am being inappropriate. It always seems to put the ladies at ease and speeds up the program. They at this point know why I am there. I would not recommend doing that at a place you are not familiar with however.
Just ran across this website (see below) , and thought to myself the customers are complete fools if they use this as a guide on how to act in and AMP. First of all most of the providers in these sample videos aren't that great looking compared to the ones here in Honolulu. Second, the attitude of the providers are too business like and aloof. Third, $200 for a tip? And upfront? WTF. Especially for the lame service that they provide. Not even worth $100. I don't know if these are real hidden videos or staged to produce the content that they are trying to sell. If anything can be learned from these videos is how a customer should behave when he enters the room. Take off your clothes, lie on the table / bed with the towel over your ass and be nice to the provider.
http://happytug.thumblogger.com/
Just ran across this website (see below) , and thought to myself the customers are complete fools if they use this as a guide on how to act in and AMP. First of all most of the providers in these sample videos aren't that great looking compared to the ones here in Honolulu. Second, the attitude of the providers are too business like and aloof. Third, $200 for a tip? And upfront? WTF. Especially for the lame service that they provide. Not even worth $100. I don't know if these are real hidden videos or staged to produce the content that they are trying to sell. If anything can be learned from these videos is how a customer should behave when he enters the room. Take off your clothes, lie on the table / bed with the towel over your ass and be nice to the provider.
http://happytug.thumblogger.com/This is staged. The women are porn stars. You may not be familiar with some of the names but Evelyn Lynn is in those videos
This is staged. The women are porn stars. You may not be familiar with some of the names but Evelyn Lynn is in those videosYeah, been downloading a lot of the videos from here over the past few months. Not to debate your opinion of the girls, but I'll take those asian porn stars any day!
This is staged. The women are porn stars. You may not be familiar with some of the names but Evelyn Lynn is in those videosYeah just like the soapland videos. However, I once saw a video of a guy getting a massage from a legit therapist. He basically tried to sweet talk his way into getting a HJ and somehow it came out that he had a cam. When she found out she was pissed and tried to make him leave. But he was able to calm her down and get a HJ with the cam running for a couple g's. He tried to negotiate more and more with her undies on. Thats as far as I got; I didn't watch the whole thing as it got boring but it seemed pretty real. Anybody ever saw this vid?
How do you guys do it? Is it that you're confident, got big balls or I'm just that much of a chicken. Actually I'm that much of a big fucking chicken For example.
After my bait and switch experience with JoJo I wanted to see what's with all the hype about Nana at Pink. I wanted to see her with my own eyes to make sure she wasn't some mystical beauty that only appears when Venus is inline with the moon.
I get to the Ward triplex after running some errands at night. I needed to sit in my car to work up the courage to just walk up the stairs. I go up on the Rappongi side so to get to Pink I need to pass GQ. As I do I hear mama call "come in side." When I get to Pink there's a girl sitting out side smoking I peak my head in and couple of the girls yell "customer." Mama pops her head out from behind a curtain and now by this time I'm totally nervous and almost can't talk. I finally spit out that I just stopped by to see who Nana is. Of course as luck would have it she's "resting." Mama offers to wake her but I tell her no need, say bye to the lovely looking ladies and run off with my tail between my legs.
As I get to GQ mama is there and ask again to come and I thank her and take a peek to see another buch of ladies waiting for customers. Interestingly they didn't seem as pretty as the girls from Pink but I really didn't get a super good look at them.
Ok so back to the question, how do you guys do it? If you don't make an appointment that is, do you just walk in say "Hi ladies" look them over and pick one? Do you hang out with them?
Up till this point I've really only done the massage with HE and it wasn't nearly as intimidating as walking into a roomful of hot girls.
So how does a chicken like me do the AMP thing.
I've seen recommendations for newbies to go with Jio as she'll take good care of you, but I'm not into the small boob girls. For that I've got my SO when / if she's willing. That's why I was hoping to see what Nana looked like to decide if I should take a chance.
Any info would be much appreciated,
Z
How do you guys do it? Is it that you're confident, got big balls or I'm just that much of a chicken. Actually I'm that much of a big fucking chicken For example.
After my bait and switch experience with JoJo I wanted to see what's with all the hype about Nana at Pink. I wanted to see her with my own eyes to make sure she wasn't some mystical beauty that only appears when Venus is inline with the moon.
I get to the Ward triplex after running some errands at night. I needed to sit in my car to work up the courage to just walk up the stairs. I go up on the Rappongi side so to get to Pink I need to pass GQ. As I do I hear mama call "come in side." When I get to Pink there's a girl sitting out side smoking I peak my head in and couple of the girls yell "customer." Mama pops her head out from behind a curtain and now by this time I'm totally nervous and almost can't talk. I finally spit out that I just stopped by to see who Nana is. Of course as luck would have it she's "resting." Mama offers to wake her but I tell her no need, say bye to the lovely looking ladies and run off with my tail between my legs.
As I get to GQ mama is there and ask again to come and I thank her and take a peek to see another buch of ladies waiting for customers. Interestingly they didn't seem as pretty as the girls from Pink but I really didn't get a super good look at them.
Ok so back to the question, how do you guys do it? If you don't make an appointment that is, do you just walk in say "Hi ladies" look them over and pick one? Do you hang out with them?
Up till this point I've really only done the massage with HE and it wasn't nearly as intimidating as walking into a roomful of hot girls.
So how does a chicken like me do the AMP thing.
I've seen recommendations for newbies to go with Jio as she'll take good care of you, but I'm not into the small boob girls. For that I've got my SO when / if she's willing. That's why I was hoping to see what Nana looked like to decide if I should take a chance.
Any info would be much appreciated,
ZDude you are thinking too much. Just walk in with a big smile, and be extra super nice to the mama and pick a "hot girl" and just go with it. No need to be chicken. It's not like you are asking them for a date. You are the one with the money and you are in control. Don't be shy and intimidated by the pretty ones. You got to show them that you don't care if they are pretty. Well actually you do, but just don't show it to them. Of course compliment them and crack jokes. I find if I get the AMP girl laughing it makes me less nervous and she is a lot less nervous about you. Just have fun! That's all I can say. And above all else treat the Mamasan like a queen. Never never argue with the mama's. And of course the most important rule of all: NEVER PAY UPFRONT. Only amateurs do that. Go have fun dude, do not think!
How do you guys do it? Is it that you're confident, got big balls or I'm just that much of a chicken. Actually I'm that much of a big fucking chicken For example.
After my bait and switch experience with JoJo I wanted to see what's with all the hype about Nana at Pink. I wanted to see her with my own eyes to make sure she wasn't some mystical beauty that only appears when Venus is inline with the moon.
I get to the Ward triplex after running some errands at night. I needed to sit in my car to work up the courage to just walk up the stairs. I go up on the Rappongi side so to get to Pink I need to pass GQ. As I do I hear mama call "come in side." When I get to Pink there's a girl sitting out side smoking I peak my head in and couple of the girls yell "customer." Mama pops her head out from behind a curtain and now by this time I'm totally nervous and almost can't talk. I finally spit out that I just stopped by to see who Nana is. Of course as luck would have it she's "resting." Mama offers to wake her but I tell her no need, say bye to the lovely looking ladies and run off with my tail between my legs.
As I get to GQ mama is there and ask again to come and I thank her and take a peek to see another buch of ladies waiting for customers. Interestingly they didn't seem as pretty as the girls from Pink but I really didn't get a super good look at them.
Ok so back to the question, how do you guys do it? If you don't make an appointment that is, do you just walk in say "Hi ladies" look them over and pick one? Do you hang out with them?
Up till this point I've really only done the massage with HE and it wasn't nearly as intimidating as walking into a roomful of hot girls.
So how does a chicken like me do the AMP thing.
I've seen recommendations for newbies to go with Jio as she'll take good care of you, but I'm not into the small boob girls. For that I've got my SO when / if she's willing. That's why I was hoping to see what Nana looked like to decide if I should take a chance.
Any info would be much appreciated,
ZAt least at Nirvana, when you enter, the mama takes you directly to a room and there are no girls on display. After collecting the hf, the mama goes and calls a girl for you. You can literally spend the whole time there seeing only the provider and the mama. Although sometimes you do see one or more of the other girls. Not saying that Nirvana is the best, it's just a good option for noobs who have cold feet like you. Give it a try, have fun, shoot your load, and report back.
Pretty simple stuff really. Don't overcomplicate it. You obviously glean info from here on who and where you want to see. So just go in there and ask for the girl you want straight up. The only thing is you shouldn't seem nervous, but not overconfident either. Just be low-key and matter of fact about it. Never ask for the girls in full view of the girls. I usually do it when I get to the door of the room mama is escorting me to. If she's not available, I'll either have a plan B girl, or say thanks and that you'll come back another time. Don't go down a list with mama though. If you start asking for 3 or more it looks odd.
So, to recap: be low-key and confident.
How do you guys do it? Is it that you're confident, got big balls or I'm just that much of a chicken. Actually I'm that much of a big fucking chicken For example.
After my bait and switch experience with JoJo I wanted to see what's with all the hype about Nana at Pink. I wanted to see her with my own eyes to make sure she wasn't some mystical beauty that only appears when Venus is inline with the moon.
I get to the Ward triplex after running some errands at night. I needed to sit in my car to work up the courage to just walk up the stairs. I go up on the Rappongi side so to get to Pink I need to pass GQ. As I do I hear mama call "come in side." When I get to Pink there's a girl sitting out side smoking I peak my head in and couple of the girls yell "customer." Mama pops her head out from behind a curtain and now by this time I'm totally nervous and almost can't talk. I finally spit out that I just stopped by to see who Nana is. Of course as luck would have it she's "resting." Mama offers to wake her but I tell her no need, say bye to the lovely looking ladies and run off with my tail between my legs.
As I get to GQ mama is there and ask again to come and I thank her and take a peek to see another buch of ladies waiting for customers. Interestingly they didn't seem as pretty as the girls from Pink but I really didn't get a super good look at them.
Ok so back to the question, how do you guys do it? If you don't make an appointment that is, do you just walk in say "Hi ladies" look them over and pick one? Do you hang out with them?
Up till this point I've really only done the massage with HE and it wasn't nearly as intimidating as walking into a roomful of hot girls.
So how does a chicken like me do the AMP thing.
I've seen recommendations for newbies to go with Jio as she'll take good care of you, but I'm not into the small boob girls. For that I've got my SO when / if she's willing. That's why I was hoping to see what Nana looked like to decide if I should take a chance.
Any info would be much appreciated,
ZBrother let me tell you something, compared to picking up an SW looking for a private parking spot and then doing the deed whilst watching for LE, the "AMP" thing is a piece of cake. Now my suggestion to you is first off don't give a flying fat$ what people think about what your up to. Just walk into the place like your visiting a friends house. If the women intimidate you, just remember to them it's a customer service vocation. They will usually be very nice and pleasant towards you. Also believe me, after your first time, subsequent visits will be easier and easier. Place I would recommend to get your feet wet would probably be PT for a somewhat discreet entrance. Check out this link for details.
http://www.pinetreespa.com/
Good luck and have fun
Thanks for all the encouragement and words of advice. I think I'll treat myself to an early AMP Christmas gift.
Later,
Z
How do you guys do it? Is it that you're confident, got big balls or I'm just that much of a chicken. Actually I'm that much of a big fucking chicken For example.
After my bait and switch experience with JoJo I wanted to see what's with all the hype about Nana at Pink. I wanted to see her with my own eyes to make sure she wasn't some mystical beauty that only appears when Venus is inline with the moon.
I get to the Ward triplex after running some errands at night. I needed to sit in my car to work up the courage to just walk up the stairs. I go up on the Rappongi side so to get to Pink I need to pass GQ. As I do I hear mama call "come in side." When I get to Pink there's a girl sitting out side smoking I peak my head in and couple of the girls yell "customer." Mama pops her head out from behind a curtain and now by this time I'm totally nervous and almost can't talk. I finally spit out that I just stopped by to see who Nana is. Of course as luck would have it she's "resting." Mama offers to wake her but I tell her no need, say bye to the lovely looking ladies and run off with my tail between my legs.
As I get to GQ mama is there and ask again to come and I thank her and take a peek to see another buch of ladies waiting for customers. Interestingly they didn't seem as pretty as the girls from Pink but I really didn't get a super good look at them.
Ok so back to the question, how do you guys do it? If you don't make an appointment that is, do you just walk in say "Hi ladies" look them over and pick one? Do you hang out with them?
Up till this point I've really only done the massage with HE and it wasn't nearly as intimidating as walking into a roomful of hot girls.
So how does a chicken like me do the AMP thing.
I've seen recommendations for newbies to go with Jio as she'll take good care of you, but I'm not into the small boob girls. For that I've got my SO when / if she's willing. That's why I was hoping to see what Nana looked like to decide if I should take a chance.
Any info would be much appreciated,
ZYou are the one with the money and the one in control. They need to impress u not u impress them...
Thanks for the great advice Bobby! I'm new to all of this and I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your post. Thanks again. This should be a sticky.
Member #4472
12-06-11, 17:03
Man, I feel your pain because I was just like you when I first got started. I was scared that someone I know would see me going up or into the place, or that the girls would intimidate me, or that I wasn't going to perform good and they were going to have a laugh on me.
So I've been there, and felt that, and now that I've been at it awhile, I look back and laugh at myself!
First of all, even if anyone you know sees you, have a logical excuse ready. Like I am going to the some other store or place in the area. If you got something prepared, they just going to accept it. And if you see someone you know in the place, WTF! They there for the same reason you are!
As for being intimidated by the girls, they are providers. They are there to take care of you. To service you. Not for you to service or please them.
When I was a teenager, I used to be all intimidated by the women who work behind of the beauty counters at high end stores. Like the makeup and cosmetic women who work on the mall level around the escalators at the cosmetics counters in Macy's. After all, they really good looking (notice how you never find ugly bitches working those counters) , they always look and dress sharp, and they always act with an air of superiority when you talk to them. You kinda feel real lucky when you walk by and they smile at you. Most times they look at you like you invisible to them. Well, I got over it once I found out that most of them work there at minimum wage, or almost minimum wage. Imaging that: they make as much as the fugly chicks slamming burgers on the grill at Jack in the box! So respect the girls in the AMPs because they servicing your cock, but don't think they are gods by any means.
And lastly, just like anything else, it gets easier the more you do it. Remember the first time you rode a bike without training wheels? You ass fell off and you probably got sore all over. But you got up and learned, and look today how much you enjoy it. So take the plunge my man. Get one answer ready for anybody that might see you, figure out what kind of chick going get you hard, go check out the line ups at some of the AMPs, and just fuck the shit out of her.
How do you guys do it? Is it that you're confident, got big balls or I'm just that much of a chicken. Actually I'm that much of a big fucking chicken For example.
After my bait and switch experience with JoJo I wanted to see what's with all the hype about Nana at Pink. I wanted to see her with my own eyes to make sure she wasn't some mystical beauty that only appears when Venus is inline with the moon.
I get to the Ward triplex after running some errands at night. I needed to sit in my car to work up the courage to just walk up the stairs. I go up on the Rappongi side so to get to Pink I need to pass GQ. As I do I hear mama call "come in side." When I get to Pink there's a girl sitting out side smoking I peak my head in and couple of the girls yell "customer." Mama pops her head out from behind a curtain and now by this time I'm totally nervous and almost can't talk. I finally spit out that I just stopped by to see who Nana is. Of course as luck would have it she's "resting." Mama offers to wake her but I tell her no need, say bye to the lovely looking ladies and run off with my tail between my legs.
As I get to GQ mama is there and ask again to come and I thank her and take a peek to see another buch of ladies waiting for customers. Interestingly they didn't seem as pretty as the girls from Pink but I really didn't get a super good look at them.
Ok so back to the question, how do you guys do it? If you don't make an appointment that is, do you just walk in say "Hi ladies" look them over and pick one? Do you hang out with them?
Up till this point I've really only done the massage with HE and it wasn't nearly as intimidating as walking into a roomful of hot girls.
So how does a chicken like me do the AMP thing.
Man, I feel your pain because I was just like you when I first got started. I was scared that someone I know would see me going up or into the place, or that the girls would intimidate me, or that I wasn't going to perform good and they were going to have a laugh on me.
So I've been there, and felt that, and now that I've been at it awhile, I look back and laugh at myself!
First of all, even if anyone you know sees you, have a logical excuse ready. Like I am going to the some other store or place in the area. If you got something prepared, they just going to accept it. And if you see someone you know in the place, WTF! They there for the same reason you are!
As for being intimidated by the girls, they are providers. They are there to take care of you. To service you. Not for you to service or please them.
When I was a teenager, I used to be all intimidated by the women who work behind of the beauty counters at high end stores. Like the makeup and cosmetic women who work on the mall level around the escalators at the cosmetics counters in Macy's. After all, they really good looking (notice how you never find ugly bitches working those counters) , they always look and dress sharp, and they always act with an air of superiority when you talk to them. You kinda feel real lucky when you walk by and they smile at you. Most times they look at you like you invisible to them. Well, I got over it once I found out that most of them work there at minimum wage, or almost minimum wage. Imaging that: they make as much as the fugly chicks slamming burgers on the grill at Jack in the box! So respect the girls in the AMPs because they servicing your cock, but don't think they are gods by any means.
And lastly, just like anything else, it gets easier the more you do it. Remember the first time you rode a bike without training wheels? You ass fell off and you probably got sore all over. But you got up and learned, and look today how much you enjoy it. So take the plunge my man. Get one answer ready for anybody that might see you, figure out what kind of chick going get you hard, go check out the line ups at some of the AMPs, and just fuck the shit out of her.
Man, I feel your pain because I was just like you when I first got started. I was scared that someone I know would see me going up or into the place, or that the girls would intimidate me, or that I wasn't going to perform good and they were going to have a laugh on me.
So I've been there, and felt that, and now that I've been at it awhile, I look back and laugh at myself!
First of all, even if anyone you know sees you, have a logical excuse ready. Like I am going to the some other store or place in the area. If you got something prepared, they just going to accept it. And if you see someone you know in the place, WTF! They there for the same reason you are!
As for being intimidated by the girls, they are providers. They are there to take care of you. To service you. Not for you to service or please them.
When I was a teenager, I used to be all intimidated by the women who work behind of the beauty counters at high end stores. Like the makeup and cosmetic women who work on the mall level around the escalators at the cosmetics counters in Macy's. After all, they really good looking (notice how you never find ugly bitches working those counters) , they always look and dress sharp, and they always act with an air of superiority when you talk to them. You kinda feel real lucky when you walk by and they smile at you. Most times they look at you like you invisible to them. Well, I got over it once I found out that most of them work there at minimum wage, or almost minimum wage. Imaging that: they make as much as the fugly chicks slamming burgers on the grill at Jack in the box! So respect the girls in the AMPs because they servicing your cock, but don't think they are gods by any means.
And lastly, just like anything else, it gets easier the more you do it. Remember the first time you rode a bike without training wheels? You ass fell off and you probably got sore all over. But you got up and learned, and look today how much you enjoy it. So take the plunge my man. Get one answer ready for anybody that might see you, figure out what kind of chick going get you hard, go check out the line ups at some of the AMPs, choose the best for you, and just fuck the shit out of her.
And don't forget to tell us about it. We like laugh with you!
I've seen recommendations for newbies to go with Jio as she'll take good care of you, but I'm not into the small boob girls. For that I've got my SO when / if she's willing. That's why I was hoping to see what Nana looked like to decide if I should take a chance.
Any info would be much appreciated,
Z
RadioHazard
12-06-11, 19:14
I would say you can't go wrong with nana. Maybe try calling Pink and see if you can schedule an apt with her. Just be could and confident. Since she has not seen you just tell her your friend recommended her.
I kinda remember feeling like that a long time ago. No Worries dude just go. Kinda make me think m first year of monger I would just go with whoever I got. I was never picky and could not last very 15 min with any girl had fun. Kinda wish I could last longer.
These days I am a picky in all aspects and regardless of how hot or not the girl is and I take fricken forever. Be thankful and use the info from the brothers on here.
Now lets see a report!
How do you guys do it? Is it that you're confident, got big balls or I'm just that much of a chicken. Actually I'm that much of a big fucking chicken For example.
After my bait and switch experience with JoJo I wanted to see what's with all the hype about Nana at Pink. I wanted to see her with my own eyes to make sure she wasn't some mystical beauty that only appears when Venus is inline with the moon.
I get to the Ward triplex after running some errands at night. I needed to sit in my car to work up the courage to just walk up the stairs. I go up on the Rappongi side so to get to Pink I need to pass GQ. As I do I hear mama call "come in side." When I get to Pink there's a girl sitting out side smoking I peak my head in and couple of the girls yell "customer." Mama pops her head out from behind a curtain and now by this time I'm totally nervous and almost can't talk. I finally spit out that I just stopped by to see who Nana is. Of course as luck would have it she's "resting." Mama offers to wake her but I tell her no need, say bye to the lovely looking ladies and run off with my tail between my legs.
As I get to GQ mama is there and ask again to come and I thank her and take a peek to see another buch of ladies waiting for customers. Interestingly they didn't seem as pretty as the girls from Pink but I really didn't get a super good look at them.
Ok so back to the question, how do you guys do it? If you don't make an appointment that is, do you just walk in say "Hi ladies" look them over and pick one? Do you hang out with them?
Up till this point I've really only done the massage with HE and it wasn't nearly as intimidating as walking into a roomful of hot girls.
So how does a chicken like me do the AMP thing.
I've seen recommendations for newbies to go with Jio as she'll take good care of you, but I'm not into the small boob girls. For that I've got my SO when / if she's willing. That's why I was hoping to see what Nana looked like to decide if I should take a chance.
Any info would be much appreciated,
Z
Hawaiian Nono
12-07-11, 03:40
How do you guys do it? Is it that you're confident, got big balls or I'm just that much of a chicken. Actually I'm that much of a big fucking chicken For example.
After my bait and switch experience with JoJo I wanted to see what's with all the hype about Nana at Pink. I wanted to see her with my own eyes to make sure she wasn't some mystical beauty that only appears when Venus is inline with the moon.
I get to the Ward triplex after running some errands at night. I needed to sit in my car to work up the courage to just walk up the stairs. I go up on the Rappongi side so to get to Pink I need to pass GQ. As I do I hear mama call "come in side." When I get to Pink there's a girl sitting out side smoking I peak my head in and couple of the girls yell "customer." Mama pops her head out from behind a curtain and now by this time I'm totally nervous and almost can't talk. I finally spit out that I just stopped by to see who Nana is. Of course as luck would have it she's "resting." Mama offers to wake her but I tell her no need, say bye to the lovely looking ladies and run off with my tail between my legs.
As I get to GQ mama is there and ask again to come and I thank her and take a peek to see another buch of ladies waiting for customers. Interestingly they didn't seem as pretty as the girls from Pink but I really didn't get a super good look at them.
Ok so back to the question, how do you guys do it? If you don't make an appointment that is, do you just walk in say "Hi ladies" look them over and pick one? Do you hang out with them?
Up till this point I've really only done the massage with HE and it wasn't nearly as intimidating as walking into a roomful of hot girls.
So how does a chicken like me do the AMP thing.
I've seen recommendations for newbies to go with Jio as she'll take good care of you, but I'm not into the small boob girls. For that I've got my SO when / if she's willing. That's why I was hoping to see what Nana looked like to decide if I should take a chance.
Any info would be much appreciated,
ZThe advice I would have is have a plan B. I always call and ask if they are busy or open. Then ask if a specific girl is available, mamas often double book, so this may not work.
The plan B is simple, if they are busy or the specific girl is not available try another place or another day. If you ask for a specific girl the girl may say how to do you know her and you will need to come up with something to answer her. If you find a girl you like, tip well. They remember this. Also ask for digits to schedule future visits.
And have fun!
Virtua Stick
12-07-11, 11:48
How do you guys do it? Is it that you're confident, got big balls or I'm just that much of a chicken. Actually I'm that much of a big fucking chicken For example.
After my bait and switch experience with JoJo I wanted to see what's with all the hype about Nana at Pink. I wanted to see her with my own eyes to make sure she wasn't some mystical beauty that only appears when Venus is inline with the moon.
I get to the Ward triplex after running some errands at night. I needed to sit in my car to work up the courage to just walk up the stairs. I go up on the Rappongi side so to get to Pink I need to pass GQ. As I do I hear mama call "come in side." When I get to Pink there's a girl sitting out side smoking I peak my head in and couple of the girls yell "customer." Mama pops her head out from behind a curtain and now by this time I'm totally nervous and almost can't talk. I finally spit out that I just stopped by to see who Nana is. Of course as luck would have it she's "resting." Mama offers to wake her but I tell her no need, say bye to the lovely looking ladies and run off with my tail between my legs.
As I get to GQ mama is there and ask again to come and I thank her and take a peek to see another buch of ladies waiting for customers. Interestingly they didn't seem as pretty as the girls from Pink but I really didn't get a super good look at them.
Ok so back to the question, how do you guys do it? If you don't make an appointment that is, do you just walk in say "Hi ladies" look them over and pick one? Do you hang out with them?
Up till this point I've really only done the massage with HE and it wasn't nearly as intimidating as walking into a roomful of hot girls.
So how does a chicken like me do the AMP thing.
I've seen recommendations for newbies to go with Jio as she'll take good care of you, but I'm not into the small boob girls. For that I've got my SO when / if she's willing. That's why I was hoping to see what Nana looked like to decide if I should take a chance.
Any info would be much appreciated,
ZA lot of TV people talk about the celebrations after touchdowns but say the real pros "act like they've been there before." Unlike some opinions, unless you look like LE, I personally tell them I'm new if I'm new. I do tell them I've been to other places as most of them know each other and they talk. However, when I say that quote, stay calm, friendly and polite. Smile. When you look over the selection, compliment them. After you go to the room, take everything off and cover with a towel. Use the white ones. The colorful ones on the bed have seen who knows how many of us. Avoid! Standard fees. 5 HF $.5 girl. Less tip if not at least decent service. If outstanding service and I'm really drunk, I've been known to give a little more. If they see you are nervous, it is either your first time doing this or your are a n00b LE and is your first time doing this. Risk / reward for the ladies is not great. Every visit, I always treat them nice cause they talk with each other. If any are rude or pissy to you, walk and let them know why. If they try and push someone you no like, ask for another or one you like. As for waking them up, I personally do not either. They can be nice but also grouchy or DFE as I learned earlier on. Not worth the investment or time. Some girls are ready early but many really work only from 9/10pm to the morning. YMMV.
Nice entrances to go = PT, Ichiban. Kelly is an ATF but really suspicious at the start. Once she knows you though, she's great. She sees me if she's working, MS or coming back from errands. It's the extra effort I appreciate. I'm still waiting for Sindi. Always busy.
If you want to hit SB first, get some drinks then AMP = Seven (down the street) or that place above Fatboy's, never been so forget name.
Nirvana has nice girls but see if can get street parking. People hang out on other side with bar. Once inside girls hide but if you no like, ask for another. They take no offense, or at least should not for hiding.
Ward has good selection but also some bad ones. Heavy traffic on Ward and bar / restaurant. Not the best for incognito. LOL. My coworker was at the restaurant across the street the same night I went once. Luckily she didn't see me but this island is really small and she knows my GF and sis.
Ginza has decent location in evenings. Traffic there is REAL close as the street narrows due to cars.
Don't forget to report back brah.
VS
Z,
I'm somewhat of a noob as well. I've tried AMPs in other states and have had 99% crap. Real old, like not even close to MILF and zero selection. Here, hey, it's like being in Asia anyway, plenty of fishes. My first attempt here in Hawaii, I was like you. Chicken to go up the ward complex stairs and hit Ginza in the day time. The easiest was going to PT. Total hide site. Drive up and park get out your car and in 3 steps you are inside. Practically. Try to get Sindi. If your young and get it up quick. LOL. She is HOT, but will rush you. Still good service. She was my first here in Hawaii. The first girl MMS sent in I said "NO Tanks". Easy, she no mind. Next was Ginza just at Dark. Pretty easy. If you want discrete, go to CC, I just went there yesterday for a "Legit" massage, (don't always need a helpful pull LOL) I was impressed at this BLDG, too easy. Mo & CO is another "Hidden" Gem. I parked right out side Longs, bought some gum, put a few quarters in. Don't want to mess with the parking thing, went inside and got satisfied completely day time again.
Good luck!
Zeemo,
You just freaking walk in and pick a girl and go from there. This is the easiest part. I used to worry about police raids or organized crime activities but have not come close to being part of any of that in 12 months and many mongering sessions. Maybe my assessment of the real risk is wrong, but I have had no trouble of that kind. If you get busted as a John in Honolulu, however that may happen I don't know, you may be charged as a felon under HB-240. But until I start reading about Johns going down at AMPs in Honolulu, the result of some kind of political climate change, I ain't going to worry about it.
Please pay attention to the harder parts cause I learned the hard way. Most important lesson: watch your cost and monger within a carefully calculated budget. Don't go on an out of control binge because all of a sudden you could get laid left and right with different women, many of whom may be much younger than you are. Mongering is like a drug or an addiction. If you are not prepared or if your will and self control are weak, you run the risk of blowing a lot of money very quickly. Even if what you may have paid for merit the cost, the money is still gone. Make sure mongering money is money you could afford to spend. Second lesson: the girls are not your friends. They may service you and treat you like a God in the privacy of the room, they may give you DFK, BBBJ and even BBFS for some as part of a GFE, they may give you big discounts for repeat visits, they may give you their phone numbers, they may even hang out with you outside of the AMPs. But they are after your money in your wallet in a business, commercial transaction. The friendliness is marketing and nothing more. Don't confuse friendship with customer service and a personal relationship with a business relationship. These girls and women are tough as fucking nails to do what they do, fucking strangers, good looking or gross, for $, and stigmatized as pariahs in society. Streetwalkers may sometimes be victims of coercion and trafficking as advertised by militant feminists and religious prudes. But not the Koreans AMP girls. Many answer ads in Korean newspapers to work in "relaxation" that they all know the real meaning of. To the best of my knowledge, they keep all the money that they make in tips. Their only compensation is $ and they care only about the $. And the good ones make so much freaking $ and their "net worth" may be more than the Johns that the whole relationship between a provider and a customer is twisted beyond belief. The customer may be scraping up the last bucks before the next paycheck to get laid with a friendly and submissive provider who in reality may be loaded with cash. LOL. So, point is GFE is not real, it is all smoke and mirrors, just a business transaction, you ain't nothing if you have no money to spend, and don't ever get caught up emotionally with any of the girls. Whether you stick with one AFT or a handful of ATFs or see someone new each and every time, the relationship is strictly business. Keep your money close to you, and keep your emotions even closer. Can be hard. You can have so much fun with the money. And the interaction with your ATFs could seem so real and true in the privacy of a room. But the relationships with the girls are not real. They are twisted. There is no relationship that is more twisted than provider and customer relationship that I can think of. LOL. The most intimate act that a man and woman can engage in is strictly defined and controlled by $. The mentally and emotionally weak customer would not handle the reality too well. So, watch your money, guard your emotions and have fun within a budget.
Good luck to you.
Thanks to all the brothers that provided their wisdom and advice. For all you fellow noobs out there here's a review:
First you MUST read the first post in this thread by Bobby Gunn. That post is full of great info for us noobs.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9915-Amp-guide-for-noob-s&p=1231635&viewfull=1#post1231635
Next do your homework. This site has amassed a wealth of information you just need to take the time to read it.
Remember this is a business transaction that we are in control of. We are the customers paying (good money) for a service. And just like any service you pay after the service is completed.
Hobby with a budget. It can be very tempting and way too easy to spend all your money on this hobby.
Don't get emotionally involved. Some of these girls are HOT and will say things to you to mess with your head (both of them) but in reality to them we are nothing more than a paycheck.
Don't get hung up on one girl. Got lots of places to go and lots of girls to see.
Don't be a chicken like me, just act like you've been to these types of places before or think to your self it's just like visiting my friends house and walk right in.
Don't let the beautiful half naked girls intimidate you (yeah right). If the girls are in plain view don't be afraid to check them out and do your best to remember what they're wearing.
Talk with the mama about which girl you want but have a plan B. If you know the name of the girl great ask mama for her, if you don't know the name hopefully you remembered what the girl was wearing when you walked in.
Try to be confident but not arrogant, be nice and polite but don't be a wimp and keep a low-key attitude.
Lastly if you are a chicken like me there are some places with discrete entrances like Pine Tree or Ichiban and at Nirvana there won't be any girls to intimidate you since you go straight to the room and then mama sends in a girl. Also some of the places at Century Center are very discrete (this I know from experience).
Thanks again guys and I'm sorry if I didn't include something you wrote as I did my best to try and sum up all the previous posts.
Later,
Z.
P. S. I hope to be able to use this info soon for my first AMP experience. I'll report back once I do.
For all you newbies we have all been there. My recommendation, free of course, so maybe not worth much but I suggest you start in CC. The place is very discrete and you can get used to going in, getting naked, and letting it all hang out. Some of the girls there actually help you undress and you will pop wood before the session ever starts. I figure if I am at Seven or some place and LE comes in I would just say I am there for a massage. Hey Officer isn't this a massage parlor? Don't know if it would work but I would just play stupid. Then I would shut up and lawyer up! Having said that, this is one reason I prefer takeout from the bars, you don't have to worry about LE. However, for KB takeout you really have to bring your A game. Good discussion in other thread, tactics.
Thanks to all the brothers that provided their wisdom and advice. For all you fellow noobs out there here's a review:
First you MUST read the first post in this thread by Bobby Gunn. That post is full of great info for us noobs.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9915-Amp-guide-for-noob-s&p=1231635&viewfull=1#post1231635
Next do your homework. This site has amassed a wealth of information you just need to take the time to read it.
Remember this is a business transaction that we are in control of. We are the customers paying (good money) for a service. And just like any service you pay after the service is completed.
Hobby with a budget. It can be very tempting and way too easy to spend all your money on this hobby.
Don't get emotionally involved. Some of these girls are HOT and will say things to you to mess with your head (both of them) but in reality to them we are nothing more than a paycheck.
Don't get hung up on one girl. Got lots of places to go and lots of girls to see.
Don't be a chicken like me, just act like you've been to these types of places before or think to your self it's just like visiting my friends house and walk right in.
Don't let the beautiful half naked girls intimidate you (yeah right). If the girls are in plain view don't be afraid to check them out and do your best to remember what they're wearing.
Talk with the mama about which girl you want but have a plan B. If you know the name of the girl great ask mama for her, if you don't know the name hopefully you remembered what the girl was wearing when you walked in.
Try to be confident but not arrogant, be nice and polite but don't be a wimp and keep a low-key attitude.
Lastly if you are a chicken like me there are some places with discrete entrances like Pine Tree or Ichiban and at Nirvana there won't be any girls to intimidate you since you go straight to the room and then mama sends in a girl. Also some of the places at Century Center are very discrete (this I know from experience).
Thanks again guys and I'm sorry if I didn't include something you wrote as I did my best to try and sum up all the previous posts.
Later,
Z.
P. S. I hope to be able to use this info soon for my first AMP experience. I'll report back once I do.Z, here are some more tips or expansion. (1) I do not know how young or old you are or if you are in shape or out of shape, but one way to maximize your fun is to monger when you are not wasted. I know some may disagree with me as many seem to drink first and then go in the wee hours of the morning to the AMPs. I have never mongered with any alcohol in my system during the same day before hand. If you are young and can get it up easily maybe it is not a problem. But there is no fun to go, drunk or sober, and cannot get it up. Time and money wasted. You may still be able to release with a partial, but you cannot fuck long time in multiple positions and have that kind of fun. So, if you are of a certain age, I would recommend getting a prescription of Viagra or something else from your doctor. Or buy counterfeit online. I hear Viagra's patent will run out early next year, and generics will come on the market. (2) There is nothing wrong with being low-key. Being a mouse is a different story. But inflated with hot air and bravado, aggravated by alcohol, won't help either. Just be courteous and civilized and not pushy, as in any other business transaction, you would most likely get what you reasonalby ask for. Your good vibes will be reciprocated. (3) Seeing many different providers is good. Variety is the spice of life. But it won't necessarily be a complete guard against emotional attachments. Many of us have multiple sessions with our ATFs. We do it because of good rapport. And unless we are sociopaths, some feelings and emotions will come into play. The point is: don't get those feelings and emotions get out of control. I lost control of mine and got bodyslammed hard by one provider with whom I have been with a ludicrous number of times. Should have stopped seeing her after a handful of times at the most, but I got suckered into the big discount repeats. And when it became clear that we were not friends, and I was nothing but a wallet, and poorer one with each passing day, the hurt was very painful. I am still trying, not too successfully, to sort it out. (4) Bring enough $ so your mind is on having fun and not on a potential confrontation over $. If you are not comfortable with her in the beginning, walk or ask for someone else. If service is bad and she is rude and sullen, don't tip in full and tell about it. Tell mama too. But don't go in with attitude that would make an unsatisfactory experience into a self-fufilling prophesy, whereby you fear a bad exp, you give off vibes that lead to her reciporcating bad vibes, and what you get is the bad exp you wanted to avoid. There are a couple other life lessons I have learned or reinforced by my short but intense mongering trip of the last 12 months. (1) This I learned from the girls. There ain't nothing in life that is too degrading that you are too good to do to make to survive or be rich. If you feel that way you are a loser. That is why I have no sympathy for some of the girls, maybe the real good looking ones, reported to have trouble or even a nervous breakdown at work. Fuck them. If you are too good or not mentally tough enough to spread your legs for big bucks, then get the fuck out of there and find much lower paying work. Go be a fucking model. (2) This is for the guys. Does not matter if you think there is a divine spark in you and everyone is made in the image of God and is invaluable, you really are nothing but the size of your wallet. Money is not evil. It is just a way to keep taps on how things are. People and countries with money and power will get more of what they want. You have no money and no power and you get no pussy. LOL. So I got to go find ways to make more money cause just being a nice guy will not cut it. LOL.
Thanks to all the brothers that provided their wisdom and advice. For all you fellow noobs out there here's a review:
First you MUST read the first post in this thread by Bobby Gunn. That post is full of great info for us noobs.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9915-Amp-guide-for-noob-s&p=1231635&viewfull=1#post1231635
Next do your homework. This site has amassed a wealth of information you just need to take the time to read it.
Remember this is a business transaction that we are in control of. We are the customers paying (good money) for a service. And just like any service you pay after the service is completed.
Hobby with a budget. It can be very tempting and way too easy to spend all your money on this hobby.
Don't get emotionally involved. Some of these girls are HOT and will say things to you to mess with your head (both of them) but in reality to them we are nothing more than a paycheck.
Don't get hung up on one girl. Got lots of places to go and lots of girls to see.
Don't be a chicken like me, just act like you've been to these types of places before or think to your self it's just like visiting my friends house and walk right in.
Don't let the beautiful half naked girls intimidate you (yeah right). If the girls are in plain view don't be afraid to check them out and do your best to remember what they're wearing.
Talk with the mama about which girl you want but have a plan B. If you know the name of the girl great ask mama for her, if you don't know the name hopefully you remembered what the girl was wearing when you walked in.
Try to be confident but not arrogant, be nice and polite but don't be a wimp and keep a low-key attitude.
Lastly if you are a chicken like me there are some places with discrete entrances like Pine Tree or Ichiban and at Nirvana there won't be any girls to intimidate you since you go straight to the room and then mama sends in a girl. Also some of the places at Century Center are very discrete (this I know from experience).
Thanks again guys and I'm sorry if I didn't include something you wrote as I did my best to try and sum up all the previous posts.
Later,
Z.
P. S. I hope to be able to use this info soon for my first AMP experience. I'll report back once I do.LOL. Don't have a heart attack now. I feel for you, I really do. There is good news and bad news with your situation. First the bad news. Obviously you haven't much ecperience w woman or good looking ones so you will look nervous as hell. But the good news is, eventually you will take it for granted and realize they are nervous themselves on having to fuck random strangers. How long this takes, I don't know. But you are the vulnerable type that may end up being used when one of them gives you some attention and you think it's more than a business tramsaction. G luck. Get some experience and unfortunately odds are you will get burned till you learn the ropes. I have. Beware the snakes thatbwant u as their ATF until u r broke.... While they laugh at night writing in a notebook all the suckers theyve hooked in. There is avreason why they are called hookers. Hahahahaha!
First the bad news. Obviously you haven't much ecperience w woman or good looking ones so you will look nervous as hell. But you are the vulnerable type that may end up being used when one of them gives you some attention and you think it's more than a business tramsaction. G luck. Get some experience and unfortunately odds are you will get burned till you learn the ropes.Although I rarely go AMPs here, I enjoyed everyone's posts and Z's questions. Its cool to see everyone rallying around to help the new guy. However, bradda Oldie81's assumptions sounds a tad too Master OB1ish and presumptius to me. I mean you REALLY don't know Z's experiences with women or if he going to show nervousness his first time. Nor do you know how vulnerable he is regarding being taken advantage of. Because Z reached out and asked for help, I think the odds are in his favor, not against him as you say. Telling him how he will be is not good advice imo. Come on O8l, you got the same name as me bro, be more positive, LOL.
For all you newbies we have all been there. My recommendation, free of course, so maybe not worth much but I suggest you start in CC. The place is very discrete and you can get used to going in, getting naked, and letting it all hang out. Some of the girls there actually help you undress and you will pop wood before the session ever starts. I figure if I am at Seven or some place and LE comes in I would just say I am there for a massage. Hey Officer isn't this a massage parlor? Don't know if it would work but I would just play stupid. Then I would shut up and lawyer up! Having said that, this is one reason I prefer takeout from the bars, you don't have to worry about LE. However, for KB takeout you really have to bring your A game. Good discussion in other thread, tactics.Zeemo mentioned he has been doing the massage with HE but, he never did the AMP thing. There's some places at CC that do FS but, no TS experience though. Plus, a majority of them don't look as good as the girls at the AMPs and he won't have the option to look at them first. He shouldn't be worried much since he seen MT providers that offered HE. The process is similar in that he understands the HF and the tip that comes after for the HE. I would say check out the places where he can see the lineup. He already has inquired at Ward so. I don't see why he can't go there and inquire again. That's one of the exciting thing to going AMP for the first time is being able to see the girls.
Although I rarely go AMPs here, I enjoyed everyone's posts and Z's questions. Its cool to see everyone rallying around to help the new guy. However, bradda Oldie81's assumptions sounds a tad too Master OB1ish and presumptius to me. I mean you REALLY don't know Z's experiences with women or if he going to show nervousness his first time. Nor do you know how vulnerable he is regarding being taken advantage of. Because Z reached out and asked for help, I think the odds are in his favor, not against him as you say. Telling him how he will be is not good advice imo. Come on O8l, you got the same name as me bro, be more positive, LOL.Haha. Thats my opinion based on what z has written in his long report on amps that he has gathered from us and based on how I first was. But yeah at least he is asking for help and admitting to being a chicken so it's only a matter of time before he gets comfortable. Come on brother z, write ur reports on how u cummed all over these hoes.
RadioHazard
12-13-11, 22:51
Kinda wish I was a newbie. More exciting back than. I still have fun. But part of the excitement is gone unless you really find a hidden gem. Back than getting FS was a gem to me.
Haha. Thats my opinion based on what z has written in his long report on amps that he has gathered from us and based on how I first was. But yeah at least he is asking for help and admitting to being a chicken so it's only a matter of time before he gets comfortable. Come on brother z, write ur reports on how u cummed all over these hoes.
Haha. Thats my opinion based on what z has written in his long report on amps that he has gathered from us and based on how I first was. But yeah at least he is asking for help and admitting to being a chicken so it's only a matter of time before he gets comfortable. Come on brother z, write ur reports on how u cummed all over these hoes.Hehe. Yeah. Underestimating ZeeMo and assuming he will be easily taken advantage of. However, I was nervous and all excited myself seeing all the girls sitting down smiling when I started going AMPs. I couldn't pick one that mama yelled at me then slammed the door. Hehe. I call and would visit and repeat with providers and got discounts to. They would compliment, talk sweet and be flirty. But, it doesn't mean I will / have fallen for and got obsessed with them either. I don't give in easily. They cannot because I'm Luki Eater SkyMonger. Hehe. The force is strong. Cannot turn to the darkside. Become a Jedi monger. LOL.
ZeeMo is very open on asking for information and suggestions. I like the part where he said: "I'm that much of a big fucken chicken!" Haha. Made me giggle. Got to admire someone who's willing to openly admit that, despite what people may think say of him. He sounds like someone who would heed advice and not ignore it. Not the cocky attitude that doesn't need help and feels he got it down. If he's down to listen to advice, he will be fine. It's easier to knock some sense into someone who's new and haven't experienced something yet vs knocking some sense into someone who's already caught up into it and you're trying to get him out.
Kinda wish I was a newbie. More exciting back than. I still have fun. But part of the excitement is gone unless you really find a hidden gem. Back than getting FS was a gem to me.I kind of miss the thrill of going into an AMP with no one planned to see and having Mama just sending someone in. It was like Forrest Gump says about a box of chocolates! But. I'd never go back to not knowing whom to see like we all do now!
Was post in this thread and learn from the excellent advice being given here!
If you are a noob, this entire thread is a MUST READ.
Seniors and any of the other guys who gave me advice can PM me for a blow by blow of my recent awesome experience at 7.
Later,
Z
Was post in this thread and learn from the excellent advice being given here!
If you are a noob, this entire thread is a MUST READ.
Seniors and any of the other guys who gave me advice can PM me for a blow by blow of my recent awesome experience at 7.
Later,
ZWay to go! I'm sure all the guys here are happy for you and you were wise to ASK for advice.
I kind of miss the thrill of going into an AMP with no one planned to see and having Mama just sending someone in. It was like Forrest Gump says about a box of chocolates! But. I'd never go back to not knowing whom to see like we all do now!I was just thinking about this the other day. How spoiled we all are with all this info right at our fingertips. I remember back in the day driving around looking for a pennysaver and scanning it to see what AMPs to hit. There was always the anticipation of what you'd find when you get there!
Sorry to keep asking these noob questions but am I supposed to be using the LAS format when reporting? Or is that more of an optional thing?
Also am I correct in my understanding of LAS as Looks, Attitude, Service?
It's just that these things can be very subjective and someone's 8 could be another guys 6. Is there some standard that's buried in the forum somewhere?
Lastly, I like to write in a story like style, just think it's a bit more fun. However, should I not do that and just report using a more simple to the point type style.
Later,
Z
Sorry to keep asking these noob questions but am I supposed to be using the LAS format when reporting? Or is that more of an optional thing?
Also am I correct in my understanding of LAS as Looks, Attitude, Service?
It's just that these things can be very subjective and someone's 8 could be another guys 6. Is there some standard that's buried in the forum somewhere?
Lastly, I like to write in a story like style, just think it's a bit more fun. However, should I not do that and just report using a more simple to the point type style.
Later,
ZWrite like the fucking stories in the Penthouse Forums! Which nobody can do here so far. Give it a try!
Just thought I share these tips in addition to Bobby Gunns Tips & Guidelines.
DO.
1. Do have options. Just in case the provider you originally wanted to see is not available, have a 2nd. 3rd or 4th option ready as a backup. You can always go back to your first option on another time.
2. Do inform them if you cancel or running late. The provider may be waiting for you. Just call and let them know if you decide to not go or, you're running late. Don't leave them hanging and waste their time. If you're not sure that you're coming, let them know.
3. Do smile and be nice. You don't want a provider to be scared of you and think that you're a demanding customer or LE. Providers have their guard up and are cautious of new customers they don't know. Smiling and making them laugh dramatically lowers their guard down and it also makes the provider feel more comfortable with you.
4. Do treat the ladies with respect. Just because they do this type of thing, doesn't mean they are less of a human being and they don't deserve to be treated nicely. Treat them nicely as how you would want to be treated. It will work more in your favor when you do respect them as oppose to disrespecting them.
5. Do read the providers body language. Is she smiling? Does she sound serious? Does she appear moody? Does she smile back when you smile? Does she even look at you? Read the providers body language to help determine whether it's worth trying her out or not.
6. Do let the provider know. If she's doing an HJ, BJ or doing a certain position and it's not to your liking, don't just lie there complain and then think to yourself: "Damn, her BJ sucks!" Let her know in a nice way so she can adjust and better accommodate you. In most cases, she'll listen and adjust.
7. Do have a gentle approach. When you do a move on her, start off with gentle caressing first and go with the flow of things. See how she responds to it before you start being aggressive. A majority of the providers don't like it rough. You can't assume that they want it rough also.
8. Do speak in a polite manner. Some guys can sound too ghetto and rough. It doesn't come across as sounding all that friendly and nice. You may give off the impression that you sound demanding, bothered, angry or interrogating her like you're LE. When you speak in a softer and gentler tone, providers will look at you as someone that's friendly.
9. Do take what they say and tell you with a grain of salt. Don't get all into these girls and give in easily by what they say and tell you. The compliments, sweet talking and dirty talking is just part of the act to making you feel good and the session more enjoyable.
10. Do realize that a bad experience may occur. It doesn't matter if you're a noob or a long time mongerer, a bad experience is inevitable. You cannot control everything to work in your favor. Just deal with it the best you can and move on.
DON'T.
1. Don't have high expectations. Each person has different tastes on the looks / appearance of a provider. You may read a poster rating a provider to be an 8 or 9 in looks and you may automatically think she's Import model material. Take the ratings on looks with a grain of salt.
2. Don't be too nervous. Showing obvious signs of being nervous can make the provider nervous and uncomfortable. It's normal to feel nervous but, don't make it seem to obvious that you end up telling her you're nervous to the provider. Just relax. When you feel comfortable, it makes her feel comfortable to.
3. Don't feel pressured. Don't let MS and the girls pressure you that you end up partaking with someone you're not yet sure about or interested in. Think it over first. Alot of guys just give in way to easily.
4. Don't ask too many questions. Asking too many questions, especially personal type questions can make a provider feel nervous and uncomfortable. She may think you're LE interrogating her. Avoid the questions that would make a provider suspicious.
5. Don't feel bad / guilty. If MS sends in someone you are not interested in, just tell her nicely if you could see someone else. Don't just settle for someone you're not interested in. If you're not satisfied with what you see, thank MS, walk out and check out another place.
6. Don't tip upfront. There will be providers that will ask for tip upfront but, don't give into it. You give her the power / leverage by doing so. Have her prove to you why she deserves the full amount. Why would you tip upfront? Most providers out there don't ask for the tip upfront.
7. Don't expect extras. Just because you read someone else got (DFK, BBBJ, Multi POP etc.) doesn't mean it's a sure guarantee that you'll get it to. You can't expect the girl (s) to just do it to everyone. If a broad range of posters young / old got the extras, then there's a more likely chance you'll get it to. I bet there's a number of guys that think like this when they don't get it.
"Oh wow! Howcome I neva get that?"
8. Don't expect a providers service to be consistent with everyone. There will be some providers who will not offer the exact same thing to you as she did with another customer. Your appearance, chemistry, attraction / comfort level, how you talk, repeats, providers current mood are just some of the factors that contribute to why it's YMMV.
9. Don't lose your cool. If a provider doesn't want to do a certain position or is moody, don't get all worked up and angry. Just do your best to work with her and try to enjoy it as much as possible. Understand that she may have had a bad customer before you, she just woke up and feels tired. Getting angry won't make the situation any better.
10. Don't be sly and short tip a provider. This will disappoint a provider as she had hope that you're a customer that will be honest and tip the standard. If she's giving you the bltchy, sassy attitude and crappy service, then it's understandable why she doesn't deserve the full tip. If you don't have enough, then mention it first. It will only work against you in the long run if you do short tip.
Member #5092
05-30-12, 02:25
Just thought I share these tips in addition to Bobby Gunns Tips & Guidelines.
DO.
1. Do have options. Just in case the provider you originally wanted to see is not available, have a 2nd. 3rd or 4th option ready as a backup. You can always go back to your first option on another time.
2. Do inform them if you cancel or running late. The provider may be waiting for you. Just call and let them know if you decide to not go or, you're running late. Don't leave them hanging and waste their time. If you're not sure that you're coming, let them know.
3. Do smile and be nice. You don't want a provider to be scared of you and think that you're a demanding customer or LE. Providers have their guard up and are cautious of new customers they don't know. Smiling and making them laugh dramatically lowers their guard down and it also makes the provider feel more comfortable with you.
4. Do treat the ladies with respect. Just because they do this type of thing, doesn't mean they are less of a human being and they don't deserve to be treated nicely. Treat them nicely as how you would want to be treated. It will work more in your favor when you do respect them as oppose to disrespecting them.
5. Do read the providers body language. Is she smiling? Does she sound serious? Does she appear moody? Does she smile back when you smile? Does she even look at you? Read the providers body language to help determine whether it's worth trying her out or not.
6. Do let the provider know. If she's doing an HJ, BJ or doing a certain position and it's not to your liking, don't just lie there complain and then think to yourself: "Damn, her BJ sucks!" Let her know in a nice way so she can adjust and better accommodate you. In most cases, she'll listen and adjust.
7. Do have a gentle approach. When you do a move on her, start off with gentle caressing first and go with the flow of things. See how she responds to it before you start being aggressive. A majority of the providers don't like it rough. You can't assume that they want it rough also.
8. Do speak in a polite manner. Some guys can sound too ghetto and rough. It doesn't come across as sounding all that friendly and nice. You may give off the impression that you sound demanding, bothered, angry or interrogating her like you're LE. When you speak in a softer and gentler tone, providers will look at you as someone that's friendly.
9. Do take what they say and tell you with a grain of salt. Don't get all into these girls and give in easily by what they say and tell you. The compliments, sweet talking and dirty talking is just part of the act to making you feel good and the session more enjoyable.
10. Do realize that a bad experience may occur. It doesn't matter if you're a noob or a long time mongerer, a bad experience is inevitable. You cannot control everything to work in your favor. Just deal with it the best you can and move on.
DON'T.
1. Don't have high expectations. Each person has different tastes on the looks / appearance of a provider. You may read a poster rating a provider to be an 8 or 9 in looks and you may automatically think she's Import model material. Take the ratings on looks with a grain of salt.
2. Don't be too nervous. Showing obvious signs of being nervous can make the provider nervous and uncomfortable. It's normal to feel nervous but, don't make it seem to obvious that you end up telling her you're nervous to the provider. Just relax. When you feel comfortable, it makes her feel comfortable to.
3. Don't feel pressured. Don't let MS and the girls pressure you that you end up partaking with someone you're not yet sure about or interested in. Think it over first. Alot of guys just give in way to easily.
4. Don't ask too many questions. Asking too many questions, especially personal type questions can make a provider feel nervous and uncomfortable. She may think you're LE interrogating her. Avoid the questions that would make a provider suspicious.
5. Don't feel bad / guilty. If MS sends in someone you are not interested in, just tell her nicely if you could see someone else. Don't just settle for someone you're not interested in. If you're not satisfied with what you see, thank MS, walk out and check out another place.
6. Don't tip upfront. There will be providers that will ask for tip upfront but, don't give into it. You give her the power / leverage by doing so. Have her prove to you why she deserves the full amount. Why would you tip upfront? Most providers out there don't ask for the tip upfront.
7. Don't expect extras. Just because you read someone else got (DFK, BBBJ, Multi POP etc.) doesn't mean it's a sure guarantee that you'll get it to. You can't expect the girl (s) to just do it to everyone. If a broad range of posters young / old got the extras, then there's a more likely chance you'll get it to. I bet there's a number of guys that think like this when they don't get it.
"Oh wow! Howcome I neva get that?"
8. Don't expect a providers service to be consistent with everyone. There will be some providers who will not offer the exact same thing to you as she did with another customer. Your appearance, chemistry, attraction / comfort level, how you talk, repeats, providers current mood are just some of the factors that contribute to why it's YMMV.
9. Don't lose your cool. If a provider doesn't want to do a certain position or is moody, don't get all worked up and angry. Just do your best to work with her and try to enjoy it as much as possible. Understand that she may have had a bad customer before you, she just woke up and feels tired. Getting angry won't make the situation any better.
10. Don't be sly and short tip a provider. This will disappoint a provider as she had hope that you're a customer that will be honest and tip the standard. If she's giving you the bltchy, sassy attitude and crappy service, then it's understandable why she doesn't deserve the full tip. If you don't have enough, then mention it first. It will only work against you in the long run if you do short tip.thanks for all the great advice epecially about never tiping up front. I'm a sucker and always tip up front if she asks. I've gotten burned a few times so from now on ill put my foot down. TP808
Lowlys One
05-30-12, 05:58
thanks for all the great advice epecially about never tiping up front. I'm a sucker and always tip up front if she asks. I've gotten burned a few times so from now on ill put my foot down. TP808Well, as long as you can put your foot down, meaning there will be cases where you going to have to walk, boner in hand, back down the walk of shame blue balls and all. That's why I'm so reluctant to try new places, which is stupid because after a couple visits to a new AMP, you'll find they won't need to ask for $$ upfront, but for me just going to a new place and getting into a $$ issue, just totally turns me off, and she can be hotter than catwomen and mood is gone, all the negatives pop into my head,"oh no, a clockwather","she must have a couple do's and a godzillion don't's". There was only one time where I refused to upfront, this was at p. T, the girl left the room and another came in and asked the same thing, should have walked, the mood was gone but this second gal stayed and gave me the worst experience I've had at an AMP, all through the whole session she would be asking me for the cash or acting so grouchy as though she fully expected me to stiff her at the end, she in fact right in the middle of my orgasm started pulling away and cursing me as though she was sure I was going to rip her, she had already gathered her lingurie and slammed the door shut behind her even before I could take my hat off, never to return again, not a hot towel nothing, she was sure I wasn't paying, looking back I should have just left without tipping, ended up leaving the full amount on the little nightstand and left, but I think that is the rare case where not giving in didn't pay off, should have walked after the first gal. But on a whole I agree with not tipping upfront, more times than not you'll end up a winner, but like I said if it comes down to the point where it's almost an argument, my advice is to leave, no wait for another, cause the next gal coming in already is in high alert, already knowing there's an $$ issue and you'll sense her apprehensions, which sets you up for a terrible session.
Well, as long as you can put your foot down, meaning there will be cases where you going to have to walk, boner in hand, back down the walk of shame blue balls and all. That's why I'm so reluctant to try new places, which is stupid because after a couple visits to a new AMP, you'll find they won't need to ask for $$ upfront, but for me just going to a new place and getting into a $$ issue, just totally turns me off, and she can be hotter than catwomen and mood is gone, all the negatives pop into my head,"oh no, a clockwather","she must have a couple do's and a godzillion don't's". There was only one time where I refused to upfront, this was at p. T, the girl left the room and another came in and asked the same thing, should have walked, the mood was gone but this second gal stayed and gave me the worst experience I've had at an AMP, all through the whole session she would be asking me for the cash or acting so grouchy as though she fully expected me to stiff her at the end, she in fact right in the middle of my orgasm started pulling away and cursing me as though she was sure I was going to rip her, she had already gathered her lingurie and slammed the door shut behind her even before I could take my hat off, never to return again, not a hot towel nothing, she was sure I wasn't paying, looking back I should have just left without tipping, ended up leaving the full amount on the little nightstand and left, but I think that is the rare case where not giving in didn't pay off, should have walked after the first gal. But on a whole I agree with not tipping upfront, more times than not you'll end up a winner, but like I said if it comes down to the point where it's almost an argument, my advice is to leave, no wait for another, cause the next gal coming in already is in high alert, already knowing there's an $$ issue and you'll sense her apprehensions, which sets you up for a terrible session.Since you stayed, I think you could have tried to make the most of it by assuring her that you're not going to short tip so that she could have eased up and serviced you better. It doesn't hurt to try. Better than just dealing with her complaints, tolerating the bad service and tipping her the full amount.
Lowlys One
05-30-12, 23:52
Since you stayed, I think you could have tried to make the most of it by assuring her that you're not going to short tip so that she could have eased up and serviced you better. It doesn't hurt to try. Better than just dealing with her complaints, tolerating the bad service and tipping her the full amount.Yeah I did, even showed her the mula, didn't matter, she wanted it in her hands. I will say that this was my first visit ever to Pine Tree, the 1st gal wa hot kinda tall maybe 5'6" pale skinned but soft and nice, she had some bolted sees I think, the second gal, wasn't so hot and she also broke out this small spray bottle filled with alcohol and a towel and proceeded to clean my hands with the alcohol and towel, can't recall her name, maybe its better that I don't recall her name though.
Fellow noobs, take it from me if you want to have a good time you have GOT to do your research! Don't let my "senior" status fool you I still consider myself a noob. I most definitely have not poked my pecker into the punani of the plethora of providers like perhaps some other people on this forum have partaken. But for me it's about quality and not quantity.
I have to say that this forum, the help via PMs from other brothers and the wise wisdom of one Splooge McDuck I have been able to do some really hot chicks, had lots of fun and never had a bad experience at an AMP.
Flash back to before I asked for help here in the AMP noob thread. I started my adventures in the MT thread and tried to do it all on my own. My first experience was great and then I totally bombed twice. That's when I asked for help and made the decision to try the AMP action.
Now what I'm about to recommend is a direct response to the recent posts of guys having really bad experiences. With the amount of info on this site there should be no reason for a guy to get fucked (and not in a good way). Of course this does not account for the brave and generous dudes that go TOFTT and report on a new girl that no one has reported on. And also no one is safe from the YMMV monster that can come out of nowhere and bite you in the ass!
One more thing, I've seen how some of the guys claim they "read" through the forum. But to me reading 5 to 10 pages of posts does NOT constitue reading the forum.
Here's what I did. When I read the forum, I spent many days looking through hundreds of pages. I was trying to find trends for providers AND members. I did my best to find girls being reported that had the service, looks and body type that I was interested in while at the same time looking for guys posting about those girls. The hardest part about tracking the girls is that there are usually many girls using the same or similar names and to make things worse they might move locations and then change their name. But after a while as crazy as it seems you'll get used to it and be able to track the girl you want. As for the members, if you can find guys that dig the same stuff that you do (ie like sucking on feet) you can check out the history of their posts.
The last thing I'm going to recommend may not work for everyone but it made all the difference for me. Find a mentor. You have got to share with these guys because they're willing to share with you. For me I have been truly lucky that my master Splooge (I also refer to him as sensei, coach, and now I guess mentor) has been kind enough to take me under his wing. He's shared with me amazing recommendations, advice, reports, and he's just cool to PM with.
I know what you're thinking,"I'm a noob what the hell do I have to share with these veterans?" You never know, but after I did a report on my experience with Chanel from Seven I got a PM from Splooge and since then he's always been there to help me.
Later,
Z
I've been out of the AMP scene for a while cause I moved to Kauai. I might be planning a trip to Honolulu in the near future, what's a good place to check out that's walking distance from the Alamoana hotel? I used to frequent Asia relaxation I think that was the name, it was behind the Easy Music Center on Keamoku. I doubt it's still there.
I've been out of the AMP scene for a while cause I moved to Kauai. I might be planning a trip to Honolulu in the near future, what's a good place to check out that's walking distance from the Alamoana hotel? I used to frequent Asia relaxation I think that was the name, it was behind the Easy Music Center on Keamoku. I doubt it's still there.Wow, that's a long time ago man. That's 10+ years ago. That's the one on Young St. Now it's currently called Roses.
Lowlys One
06-09-12, 05:02
I've been out of the AMP scene for a while cause I moved to Kauai. I might be planning a trip to Honolulu in the near future, what's a good place to check out that's walking distance from the Alamoana hotel? I used to frequent Asia relaxation I think that was the name, it was behind the Easy Music Center on Keamoku. I doubt it's still there.A whole bunch of them in that area, depends what you like.
I've been out of the AMP scene for a while cause I moved to Kauai. I might be planning a trip to Honolulu in the near future, what's a good place to check out that's walking distance from the Alamoana hotel? I used to frequent Asia relaxation I think that was the name, it was behind the Easy Music Center on Keamoku. I doubt it's still there.
Try this link, rubmaps.com. Some of the names may have changed, but locations are still okay.
Wow, that's a long time ago man. That's 10+ years ago. That's the one on Young St. Now it's currently called Roses.Yea it's been a long time. I've been to Honolulu over the years just haven't had a chance to go. I loved Asia when I was in college.
A whole bunch of them in that area, depends what you like.I figured that area would still have a lot of AMPs. Any stand out as better than others?
Try this link, rubmaps.com. Some of the names may have changed, but locations are still okay.Thanks, will check that out.
After reading reviews, seems like AMPs haven't changed much. Looks like they still don't do greek either, or is there certain places that do?
After reading reviews, seems like AMPs haven't changed much. Looks like they still don't do greek either, or is there certain places that do?Greek is not usually offered in the AMP's unless the girl is into it. I have mongered for very many years and I have only had Greek about 10 to 15 times. The famous Linda of Kiku (RM) gave it to me every time I saw her and she was Korean. Ruby of the old China Spa fame gave it up a few times for me. She was Korean (I think) And then there was Miki of Imperial, (she was game for anything) I loved Greek with her. She had the cutest ass ever. And of course the drugged out Filipina Sandy, of Imperial / Evergreen fame. She gave it up a lot. She had a very nice curvy fuckable ass but her face was a double sacker if you know what I mean. But other than that Greek is a high YMMV thing. You will be very lucky to get it. If you ever do. Don't go in expecting it and don't beg for it or force the girl to try. That is a huge no-no. Just go with the flow and be gentle about it. Actually some of the girls will offer it to you if they like you. Miki offered it up and so did Sandy. I never asked them for it. And they did not charge extra. Amazing.
Nowadays I do not know of any AMP girl that does it. Even Monica does not offer it and she does almost everything else. Greek is as elusive as trying to find a real Japanese girl in an AMP. Good luck finding it.
Oh and by the way if you do get lucky enough to find a girl that lets you do it. Do not I repeat do not report it on this forum. Because then every Tom Dick and Harry will go to the girl begging her for it and ruin the experience for you next time. That is a fact. Just keep it to yourself. People on here will not agree with me on that but it is true. In the past I have had many Greek experiences ruined because of forums. That is why I don't review anymore. Too many other mongers ruining my good experiences.
Fellow noobs, take it from me if you want to have a good time you have GOT to do your research! Don't let my "senior" status fool you I still consider myself a noob. I most definitely have not poked my pecker into the punani of the plethora of providers like perhaps some other people on this forum have partaken. But for me it's about quality and not quantity.
I have to say that this forum, the help via PMs from other brothers and the wise wisdom of one Splooge McDuck I have been able to do some really hot chicks, had lots of fun and never had a bad experience at an AMP.
Flash back to before I asked for help here in the AMP noob thread. I started my adventures in the MT thread and tried to do it all on my own. My first experience was great and then I totally bombed twice. That's when I asked for help and made the decision to try the AMP action.
Now what I'm about to recommend is a direct response to the recent posts of guys having really bad experiences. With the amount of info on this site there should be no reason for a guy to get fucked (and not in a good way). Of course this does not account for the brave and generous dudes that go TOFTT and report on a new girl that no one has reported on. And also no one is safe from the YMMV monster that can come out of nowhere and bite you in the ass!
One more thing, I've seen how some of the guys claim they "read" through the forum. But to me reading 5 to 10 pages of posts does NOT constitue reading the forum.
Here's what I did. When I read the forum, I spent many days looking through hundreds of pages. I was trying to find trends for providers AND members. I did my best to find girls being reported that had the service, looks and body type that I was interested in while at the same time looking for guys posting about those girls. The hardest part about tracking the girls is that there are usually many girls using the same or similar names and to make things worse they might move locations and then change their name. But after a while as crazy as it seems you'll get used to it and be able to track the girl you want. As for the members, if you can find guys that dig the same stuff that you do (ie like sucking on feet) you can check out the history of their posts.
The last thing I'm going to recommend may not work for everyone but it made all the difference for me. Find a mentor. You have got to share with these guys because they're willing to share with you. For me I have been truly lucky that my master Splooge (I also refer to him as sensei, coach, and now I guess mentor) has been kind enough to take me under his wing. He's shared with me amazing recommendations, advice, reports, and he's just cool to PM with.
I know what you're thinking,"I'm a noob what the hell do I have to share with these veterans?" You never know, but after I did a report on my experience with Chanel from Seven I got a PM from Splooge and since then he's always been there to help me.
Later,
ZQuit with this you are a noob stuff. Your experience qualifies you as knowing what your doing. Noob status is not knowing the rules and being shame to walk in to these places bro.
After reading reviews, seems like AMPs haven't changed much. Looks like they still don't do greek either, or is there certain places that do?OCCC relaxation.
Greek is not usually offered in the AMP's unless the girl is into it. I have mongered for very many years and I have only had Greek about 10 to 15 times. The famous Linda of Kiku (RM) gave it to me every time I saw her and she was Korean. Ruby of the old China Spa fame gave it up a few times for me. She was Korean (I think) And then there was Miki of Imperial, (she was game for anything) I loved Greek with her. She had the cutest ass ever. And of course the drugged out Filipina Sandy, of Imperial / Evergreen fame. She gave it up a lot. She had a very nice curvy fuckable ass but her face was a double sacker if you know what I mean. But other than that Greek is a high YMMV thing. You will be very lucky to get it. If you ever do. Don't go in expecting it and don't beg for it or force the girl to try. That is a huge no-no. Just go with the flow and be gentle about it. Actually some of the girls will offer it to you if they like you. Miki offered it up and so did Sandy. I never asked them for it. And they did not charge extra. Amazing.
Nowadays I do not know of any AMP girl that does it. Even Monica does not offer it and she does almost everything else. Greek is as elusive as trying to find a real Japanese girl in an AMP. Good luck finding it.
Oh and by the way if you do get lucky enough to find a girl that lets you do it. Do not I repeat do not report it on this forum. Because then every Tom Dick and Harry will go to the girl begging her for it and ruin the experience for you next time. That is a fact. Just keep it to yourself. People on here will not agree with me on that but it is true. In the past I have had many Greek experiences ruined because of forums. That is why I don't review anymore. Too many other mongers ruining my good experiences.Thanks for the insight. I see what you mean about keeping things on the down low too.
Capn Morgan
06-10-12, 05:17
One noob mistake is fumbling around in your wallet and trying to count cash when you're nervous. Avoid this potentially embarrassing situation by carefully folding and putting the house fee in one front pocket and placing the tip in the other front pocket before you go in. You can either leave the wallet locked in the car or in put it in your back pocket. When MS takes you to the room she'll usually pause at the door when you enter. This is when you pull out the house fee from the front pocket. She'll think you know what you're doing when you pull out the right amount without having to count it and without being asked for it. For a touch of class, hold the money in both hands and present it to MS with a smile and a slight bow. When the deed is done and it's time to get dressed, simply reach into the other front pocket and extract the tip. I usually place the tip on the nightstand (some girls feel less shame that way). If you want to tip extra, then go for the wallet (if you brought it) and extract the additional funds. Having your money situation squared away before you go in will allow you to focus on and enjoy the overall experience that much more. Hope this advice is helpful. Happy hunting!
Fellow noobs, take it from me if you want to have a good time you have GOT to do your research! Don't let my "senior" status fool you I still consider myself a noob. I most definitely have not poked my pecker into the punani of the plethora of providers like perhaps some other people on this forum have partaken. But for me it's about quality and not quantity.
I have to say that this forum, the help via PMs from other brothers and the wise wisdom of one Splooge McDuck I have been able to do some really hot chicks, had lots of fun and never had a bad experience at an AMP.
Flash back to before I asked for help here in the AMP noob thread. I started my adventures in the MT thread and tried to do it all on my own. My first experience was great and then I totally bombed twice. That's when I asked for help and made the decision to try the AMP action.
Now what I'm about to recommend is a direct response to the recent posts of guys having really bad experiences. With the amount of info on this site there should be no reason for a guy to get fucked (and not in a good way). Of course this does not account for the brave and generous dudes that go TOFTT and report on a new girl that no one has reported on. And also no one is safe from the YMMV monster that can come out of nowhere and bite you in the ass!
One more thing, I've seen how some of the guys claim they "read" through the forum. But to me reading 5 to 10 pages of posts does NOT constitue reading the forum.
Here's what I did. When I read the forum, I spent many days looking through hundreds of pages. I was trying to find trends for providers AND members. I did my best to find girls being reported that had the service, looks and body type that I was interested in while at the same time looking for guys posting about those girls. The hardest part about tracking the girls is that there are usually many girls using the same or similar names and to make things worse they might move locations and then change their name. But after a while as crazy as it seems you'll get used to it and be able to track the girl you want. As for the members, if you can find guys that dig the same stuff that you do (ie like sucking on feet) you can check out the history of their posts.
The last thing I'm going to recommend may not work for everyone but it made all the difference for me. Find a mentor. You have got to share with these guys because they're willing to share with you. For me I have been truly lucky that my master Splooge (I also refer to him as sensei, coach, and now I guess mentor) has been kind enough to take me under his wing. He's shared with me amazing recommendations, advice, reports, and he's just cool to PM with.
I know what you're thinking,"I'm a noob what the hell do I have to share with these veterans?" You never know, but after I did a report on my experience with Chanel from Seven I got a PM from Splooge and since then he's always been there to help me.
Later,
ZZ,
It really does not take much to have a good experience. A good experience really depends more on the monger's attitude more than anything else. Give off good vibes and more often than not you will get good reciprocal feedback.
A collective experience is a different story. Guarantee to have some bad experiences the more you monger. Good to have advice or even a mentor to avoid pitfalls that could be avoided with fore knowledge. But there is no way to guard against every bad contingency and things that could go wrong. But even those are just little bumps on the road. Two main things to avoid are (1) mongering without the limits of a budget and (2) confusing friendship with customer service. If you could keep those two things in mind, the mongering experience overtime, even as your standards change, should be good.
Z,
It really does not take much to have a good experience. A good experience really depends more on the monger's attitude more than anything else. Give off good vibes and more often than not you will get good reciprocal feedback.
A collective experience is a different story. Guarantee to have some bad experiences the more you monger. Good to have advice or even a mentor to avoid pitfalls that could be avoided with fore knowledge. But there is no way to guard against every bad contingency and things that could go wrong. But even those are just little bumps on the road. Two main things to avoid are (1) mongering without the limits of a budget and (2) confusing friendship with customer service. If you could keep those two things in mind, the mongering experience overtime, even as your standards change, should be good.You just brought something that I had written down and haven't posted yet. It's the bad vibes. What type of vibe do you bring when you walk into an AMP?
OCCC relaxation.Haha O! I had to re-read the location before I caught on.
OCCC relaxation.Yea and you don't even need house fee there. All you have to do is just steal some copper wire from the freeway lightpoles on H1! Get caught and you can get a lifetime membership there. All the butt sexx you will ever want is available there. Man that was too funny Oco. Good one.
You just brought something that I had written down and haven't posted yet. It's the bad vibes. What type of vibe do you bring when you walk into an AMP?Sober vibes. I don't mean still sober after two to three beers. I mean no alcohol during the day prior to the visit. Nobody wants to deal with somebody under the influence, let alone someone fucked up already. And I visit early, usually never later than early evenings. And I don't bring attitude of hot air and bravado. I am not young and I am not good looking. I have my share of physical blemishes, which elements of the AMPs minimize. No matter how hard I work out at the gym, I will never be a studly young guy that a provider would want to share a BFE / GFE experience with. So, with a provider for the first time, I expect standard service from young and younger providers, but I also expect them to do so with a cheery and friendly demeanor. And depending on who she is and where I am, I may test the waters for extras without being pushy or demanding. I try to pop a pill on a relatively empty stomach so I could get it up. I try not to have an empty reservoir that would lead to hard work for me and for her before I could come.
Sullen or indifferent attitude from her. No good. Walk. Ask for money up front. No good. Walk.
I have also done a lot of repeats that may have gotten better in the early sessions but the emotional satisfaction of the sessions would deteriorate over time. Should have never done a lot of the repeats after a few sessions with a given provider. Yes, there may have been comfort and rapport, not to mention discount, with a provider that led to repeats, but if the "relationship" does not change from customer service to friendship there is no point continuing. I made bad mistakes on this point and it will never happen again but the financial and psychological damage is done. If an older guy with unlimited funds want to do repeats with ATFs, more power to him. If a younger and good looking guy gets a BFE with a young provider that is not business related, good for him. But aside from those two situations, I would recommend seeing new providers most of the time.
Sober vibes. I don't mean still sober after two to three beers. I mean no alcohol during the day prior to the visit. Nobody wants to deal with somebody under the influence, let alone someone fucked up already. And I visit early, usually never later than early evenings. And I don't bring attitude of hot air and bravado. I am not young and I am not good looking. I have my share of physical blemishes, which elements of the AMPs minimize. No matter how hard I work out at the gym, I will never be a studly young guy that a provider would want to share a BFE / GFE experience with. So, with a provider for the first time, I expect standard service from young and younger providers, but I also expect them to do so with a cheery and friendly demeanor. And depending on who she is and where I am, I may test the waters for extras without being pushy or demanding. I try to pop a pill on a relatively empty stomach so I could get it up. I try not to have an empty reservoir that would lead to hard work for me and for her before I could come.
Sullen or indifferent attitude from her. No good. Walk. Ask for money up front. No good. Walk.
I have also done a lot of repeats that may have gotten better in the early sessions but the emotional satisfaction of the sessions would deteriorate over time. Should have never done a lot of the repeats after a few sessions with a given provider. Yes, there may have been comfort and rapport, not to mention discount, with a provider that led to repeats, but if the "relationship" does not change from customer service to friendship there is no point continuing. I made bad mistakes on this point and it will never happen again but the financial and psychological damage is done. If an older guy with unlimited funds want to do repeats with ATFs, more power to him. If a younger and good looking guy gets a BFE with a young provider that is not business related, good for him. But aside from those two situations, I would recommend seeing new providers most of the time.Enjoyed reading your reply. Although I haven't met you Ocolumbo, I could tell based on how you write from the time you first came onto the forum that you're not the aggressive / cocky type.
The providers see you as a customer that's more manageable and not demanding. They don't have to worry as much. It's good especially if the provider may categorize / label you as someone who is demanding. Prove her wrong by not being that type.
You're expecting standard services from a younger provider because there's a high chance that it will be standard so, no sense expect that you will get extras. But hey, you never know and may get the extras when you least expect to get it.
Enjoyed reading your reply. Although I haven't met you Ocolumbo, I could tell based on how you write from the time you first came onto the forum that you're not the aggressive / cocky type.
The providers see you as a customer that's more manageable and not demanding. They don't have to worry as much. It's good especially if the provider may categorize / label you as someone who is demanding. Prove her wrong by not being that type.
You're expecting standard services from a younger provider because there's a high chance that it will be standard so, no sense expect that you will get extras. But hey, you never know and may get the extras when you least expect to get it.Happy Charlie and the Most Pathetic LVB of the AMPs 2011-2012 thank you.
Happy Charlie and the Most Pathetic LVB of the AMPs 2011-2012 thank you.What's with the Happy Charlie? Everyone's confused here. Hehe.
As for the Most Pathetic LVB of the AMPs 2011, you keep dwelling on it too much. Maybe you do need a bit of bravado ness to balance things out. Hehe.
Been lurking here for years, haven't played in as many due to personal reasons, but am ready to get back into the swing of things. I have a question though. I'm a hairy guy and was wondering if anyone has ever gotten reduced quality of service from some of the better AMPs due to that fact. Good hygiene has always been a priority of mine, so that doesn't come into play, but I know that some women in the civilian world see a hairy guy and think "eww." Never had a complaint from personal relations either, because once they get their hands on me they realize that it's like having a real life teddy bear. Also, thanks to all the senior members that post with great reports on a regular basis. Once I get out there again, I promise to provide my own intel, as well as TOFTT from time to time. Mahalo!
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Been lurking here for years, haven't played in as many due to personal reasons, but am ready to get back into the swing of things. I have a question though. I'm a hairy guy and was wondering if anyone has ever gotten reduced quality of service from some of the better AMPs due to that fact. Good hygiene has always been a priority of mine, so that doesn't come into play, but I know that some women in the civilian world see a hairy guy and think "eww." Never had a complaint from personal relations either, because once they get their hands on me they realize that it's like having a real life teddy bear. Also, thanks to all the senior members that post with great reports on a regular basis. Once I get out there again, I promise to provide my own intel, as well as TOFTT from time to time. Mahalo!Don't let that discourage you into thinking it will hurt your chances. Coming in there with a bad attitude and being disrespectful would turn them off even more. Heck, I'm kinda hairy myself. But, not the Bigfoot / Teen Wolf kine hairy though. Hehe. I remember seeing Tomato at the Old PT. I repeated with her and this time, I shaved down there. She later said: "Why you shave it for? I like the hair, I think it's sexy"
Don't let that discourage you into thinking it will hurt your chances. Coming in there with a bad attitude and being disrespectful would turn them off even more. Heck, I'm kinda hairy myself. But, not the Bigfoot / Teen Wolf kine hairy though. Hehe. I remember seeing Tomato at the Old PT. I repeated with her and this time, I shaved down there. She later said: "Why you shave it for? I like the hair, I think it's sexy"Whatever happened to Tomato? It seems like she dropped off the face of the earth as she is nowhere to be found.
Whatever happened to Tomato? It seems like she dropped off the face of the earth as she is nowhere to be found.I didn't see / had her since 2000. I just been reading she been moving from AMP to AMP.
RadioHazard
06-13-12, 16:23
I think I saw her once at Lavender. Before it became sakura. I thought she resurfaced at PT for some reason but that a was also a while back. 2 things I recall about tomato and my one session with her. She had really bad teeth and she made me pop fast. That is all I can remember.
I didn't see / had her since 2000. I just been reading she been moving from AMP to AMP.
Whatever happened to Tomato? It seems like she dropped off the face of the earth as she is nowhere to be found.Saw her at what is now Goi last year or the year before. A lot of women I've received good service from only worked a few weeks or a few months at the same or different AMPs, then moved to states like Texas, Cali, Louisiana and Georgia. Oh well.
Greek is not usually offered in the AMP's unless the girl is into it. I have mongered for very many years and I have only had Greek about 10 to 15 times. The famous Linda of Kiku (RM) gave it to me every time I saw her and she was Korean. Ruby of the old China Spa fame gave it up a few times for me. She was Korean (I think) And then there was Miki of Imperial, (she was game for anything) I loved Greek with her. She had the cutest ass ever. And of course the drugged out Filipina Sandy, of Imperial / Evergreen fame. She gave it up a lot. She had a very nice curvy fuckable ass but her face was a double sacker if you know what I mean. But other than that Greek is a high YMMV thing. You will be very lucky to get it. If you ever do. Don't go in expecting it and don't beg for it or force the girl to try. That is a huge no-no. Just go with the flow and be gentle about it. Actually some of the girls will offer it to you if they like you. Miki offered it up and so did Sandy. I never asked them for it. And they did not charge extra. Amazing.Ruby from CS was Chinese not Korean. Boy do I miss her sessions.
After reading reviews, seems like AMPs haven't changed much. Looks like they still don't do greek either, or is there certain places that do?I'm not sure about places, I think it just depends on the girl. You can always ask, and they can either say yes or no. Most of the time they will tend to charge you extra, and then of course some are curious about it and might not charge you extra.
I'm not sure about places, I think it just depends on the girl. You can always ask, and they can either say yes or no. Most of the time they will tend to charge you extra, and then of course some are curious about it and might not charge you extra.Yea that's what I kind of figured, maybe I'll luck out one day.
Yea that's what I kind of figured, maybe I'll luck out one day.It's out there. 2x in my short mongering life. 1st time slipped / accident. I said sorry, she just told me to keep going so I did. 2nd time was with an ATF (who I've seen 10+ times) I was rimming her and playing with her hole wile I was fucking her- and she got up and got some lube. I'm sure it's much cheaper to just negotiate a fee for greek, rather then building yourself up as a regular.
Here's some of the typical mistakes that noobs make. Heck, even non noobs make this mistake (s) to.
1. Bringing negative vibes. Not smiling, be demanding, being rude, coming in drunk / wasted, talking loud, attitude.
2. Having expectations. Expecting extras (DATY, DFK, BBBJ). Why? Because you read someone else got or you got it from another provider. The provider won't care if you heard / read about it or, you got it from someone else. She'll pick and choose who she wants to offer it to.
3. Asking for TS. Why ask for a TS when the provider (s) don't even know you yet? Duh! Hello? Hehe.
4. Asking for a Massage."Can I get a massage?" " What do you expect the provider that doesn't know you to say?
"Sure baby! You want it before or after?"
5. Being too aggressive. Helping yourself by grabbing all over, kiss, FIV like it's already a given.
"Ooh yah baby, let me spank that ass and maul them titties! Stick my fingers in to!"
You can't expect all providers to just want to allow this even though you may have had one that didn't mind doing that.
6. Believing everything they say. Some guys just believe whatever MS and the girls say literally. It's like there's absolutely no way they would lie. She's just to cute / sweet / innocent to lie.
7. Not opening their mouth. They don't let the provider know if they're not comfortable or not feeling it a certain way. Let her know so that she can adjust.
8. Feeling guilty. Just ask for another provider or walk out if you don't see anyone that you're interested in. Don't let MS pressure you. It's $$ bucks man.
9. Not reading face / body language. They don't think outside the box and try to read the provider out to get a better feel for her. It is likely it won't turn out well if she's not smiling or being enthusiastic. But hey, maybe your positive vibes may change her negative outlook on you.
10. Rubbing off of her vibes. If you sense that the girl is lieing or being moody, don't let that get to you where it bothers you. Just play along with it.
"Don't lie to me. I know you do that!"
No sense you say something like this. Like this would work in your favor if you do say that? Next thing you know, she rubs off of your vibes and she gets even more moody.
Lowlys One
06-25-12, 01:08
Here's some of the typical mistakes that noobs make. Heck, even non noobs make this mistake (s) to.
1. Bringing negative vibes. Not smiling, be demanding, being rude, coming in drunk / wasted, talking loud, attitude.
2. Having expectations. Expecting extras (DATY, DFK, BBBJ). Why? Because you read someone else got or you got it from another provider. The provider won't care if you heard / read about it or, you got it from someone else. She'll pick and choose who she wants to offer it to.
3. Asking for TS. Why ask for a TS when the provider (s) don't even know you yet? Duh! Hello? Hehe.
4. Asking for a Massage."Can I get a massage?" " What do you expect the provider that doesn't know you to say?
"Sure baby! You want it before or after?"
5. Being too aggressive. Helping yourself by grabbing all over, kiss, FIV like it's already a given.
"Ooh yah baby, let me spank that ass and maul them titties! Stick my fingers in to!"
You can't expect all providers to just want to allow this even though you may have had one that didn't mind doing that.
6. Believing everything they say. Some guys just believe whatever MS and the girls say literally. It's like there's absolutely no way they would lie. She's just to cute / sweet / innocent to lie.
7. Not opening their mouth. They don't let the provider know if they're not comfortable or not feeling it a certain way. Let her know so that she can adjust.
8. Feeling guilty. Just ask for another provider or walk out if you don't see anyone that you're interested in. Don't let MS pressure you. It's $$ bucks man.
9. Not reading face / body language. They don't think outside the box and try to read the provider out to get a better feel for her. It is likely it won't turn out well if she's not smiling or being enthusiastic. But hey, maybe your positive vibes may change her negative outlook on you.
10. Rubbing off of her vibes. If you sense that the girl is lieing or being moody, don't let that get to you where it bothers you. Just play along with it.
"Don't lie to me. I know you do that!"
No sense you say something like this. Like this would work in your favor if you do say that? Next thing you know, she rubs off of your vibes and she gets even more moody.Yeah I like number 1, 2, and 10, because I'm guilty of them, well number 1, I'm not a staggering, fall down type of drinker or other stuff but, I'm sure one look into my eyes and a whole bunch of assumption must go through their heads, can't blame them, which leads to bad chemistry. Number 2 and 10, now these are two really interesting ones, so very underated and IMO a big key to having a good time and having a bad time. I say interesting cause these two don't really exist unless you participate in them, I always tell people yeah man my thinking goes off and its like half my life never really happened, it was a facade my dam head went into overtime and I believe everything I think of, course most of the time my thinking is off, only in retrospect of course. When it comes to expectations I'm the king of it, all just a big set up. I know this about expectations the less I have, the better my life is, the chief culprit for feelings of dissapiontment, frustration and resentment. And what is expectations, absolutely nothing, nothing to do with facts, nothing to do with the present which is the only place that is real or reality. But dam can it ruin the present, if I can just stay away from thinking about how things should be and focus on what is happening, and how to deal with whats happening I don't experience that frustration, dissapointment crap. Then number 10, should have learn this long time ago, again if you don't participate in this, then it doesn't exist. Took long time for figure out the chick going be one certain way, like it or not, if you went there or not, it's when I get involved in her stuff and thats exactly what it is "her stuff" she got to own it, I don't, and whether she does or doesn't, ain't mine to worry about, course if she's really rude from get go, she goes, and say it then or forever hold your breath. But other then the extreme cases, yup I not blind but I don't get into that what's the matter crap and I can fix it, nope, we all should know by now we can't change the way she acts but we can sure get involved in trying and that's the fat lady singing. Focus on the physical and go, sure pleasentness is nice but not required, I know what's mine and what's hers and I leave it as I found it.
Yeah I like number 1, 2, and 10, because I'm guilty of them, well number 1, I'm not a staggering, fall down type of drinker or other stuff but, I'm sure one look into my eyes and a whole bunch of assumption must go through their heads, can't blame them, which leads to bad chemistry.Yes. The providers cannot help but have assumptions of the customers considering they run into a number of drunks, rude guys, demanding guys, short tippers. Let's face it, there's a number of guys that walk into the AMPs with a one track mind. Their main focus is the release that they overlook other factors that can affect the overall experience. If a provider makes assumptions of you, try to convince her otherwise that you are not what she thinks you are. It's going to take not bringing in the bad vibes as well as not rubbing off the providers negative vibes where you'll eventually be able to convince her. However, for some guys and the provider that they see, her assumptions can be so high of the person that she's automatically turned off instantly on initial impression. It's hard for him to even try to convince her otherwise. She's not going to even bother to give him a chance. It's like:
"No! I don't like this guy"
She doesn't care if you're nice or not or that you're a generous tipper etc. She just doesn't want to bother with you to be convinced otherwise. If this is the case, don't push it. Just move on.
Lowlys One
06-25-12, 04:10
Been lurking here for years, haven't played in as many due to personal reasons, but am ready to get back into the swing of things. I have a question though. I'm a hairy guy and was wondering if anyone has ever gotten reduced quality of service from some of the better AMPs due to that fact. Good hygiene has always been a priority of mine, so that doesn't come into play, but I know that some women in the civilian world see a hairy guy and think "eww." Never had a complaint from personal relations either, because once they get their hands on me they realize that it's like having a real life teddy bear. Also, thanks to all the senior members that post with great reports on a regular basis. Once I get out there again, I promise to provide my own intel, as well as TOFTT from time to time. Mahalo!When I first started I was never shaved, wouldn't think of it, then I noticed the porn dudes were beginning to shave and pretty soon everyone was shaved, became more accepted or maybe I got used to seeing it, tried it, and now think a full bush err, I'd rather have my ladies at the most a landing strip. All I can say about your question is this, and its just my experience, after I went with the shaved look except for a little directly over Jr, I noticed the providers commenting on being clean shaven and how they appreciate it and how some don't and they get repulsed for lack of a better word, I thought good hygeine meant the regular things like teeth brushed, body showered and bathed ect, now I think it also mean if you don't like the shaved look then at least clean up (shave) the rest of the of the area like butt hairs, ball hairs and trim down the rest. Don't know really if I got extra because I was clean shaven, but it opened me up to some discussion with numerous providers about how they felt about it. I guess if you put yourself in their shoes a provider doesn't even have to like the shaved looked personally but I'll bet you this, she'll still appreciate and shaven man regardless. Hey if you really want to know for sure try it for yourself and report back please. The thing about this is i would have never known this had i remained unshaven, which makes me wonder how many other things can i be ignorant of because i didnt have it , but second you do, a whole side of a story comes out? Could that saying "size no matter" been made up by a guy with no size?
Ok I have to ask. Do you actually shave your ass and balls? How do you physically do it? I don't even want to guess. The mental picture just grosses me out.
I think women, like men like their partners to be either shaved, waxed or at the very least trimmed and manicured. I prefer my women to be completely shaved or waxed. Any wahines want to give your thoughts on this?
I think women, like men like their partners to be either shaved, waxed or at the very least trimmed and manicured. I prefer my women to be completely shaved or waxed. Any wahines want to give your thoughts on this?I also think it depends on the girl's culture. The more american asians tend to prefer the guy being shaved or at least trim form what I noticed, while the girls in Asian or just visiting are a little confused about it, mainly because I guess it hasn't caught up with the female culture over there so they are surpised to see a guy shaved or trimmed.
Plungeclub
06-26-12, 04:31
It's been my experience that women tend to prefer a well trimmed (above jr) and shaven *base of jr and balls* man. Its really not that hard to do to clean yourself up, just be careful the first few times you do it, and you'll be fine. As scary as it might seem to shave your balls (soft skin) its really not that difficult. Think about it, if women can shave their pussy and not cut a lip off us guys shouldn't have too much trouble shaving the ole sack either. I know I don't, although I have nicked myself in the past, just like any other part of my body that I've shaven.
Lowlys One
06-26-12, 21:21
Ok I have to ask. Do you actually shave your ass and balls? How do you physically do it? I don't even want to guess. The mental picture just grosses me out.Yes I do it in the shower with soap, after a while you'll prolly prefer it I'm telling you and besides its summer now and it is a little cooler, one thing though, when I first started shaving, the day or two after you 've shaved I used to get this red dots above Jr. Something with shaving I guess, now its better though. Just trust us, look at it this way it may gross you out but to some women its remarkable, and besides I swear I'm a little bigger shaven, now if that don't get you then nothing will, trust the boys you'll be surprised.
Interesting how this thread title got changed. Hehe.
The Your Mile May Vary factor. For some of you who don't know this abbreviated term, it's basically referring to how far you will go with that particular provider. Will you get the same services along with GFE / PSE from the same provider. It feels sick huh when you read someone else got this and that from a provider and you didn't? Heh, don't worry about it. It will vary between each individual. Don't be so focused on trying to copy someone else experience because he got DFK, DATY, GFE etc. And you didn't.
"Shit, he got that? Let me check her out, I think I can get that to!"
You're trying to match and even top the other guy on what he got. Heh, you know how guys can be, they can be very competitive. Just focus on yourself, have fun and don't expect. When you expect to get extras, you try too hard to get it that you end up screwing up the entire experience and you feel sick that you didn't get it in the end. Remember this, even if you may not get the same extras from one provider, another provider will eventually make up for it. Just make the most of your experience with the provider and enjoy.
So, why does this YMMV exist in an AMP? What are the contributing factors as to why there's YMMV?
1. Attraction (Physical / Mental)
2. Timing.
3. Vibes
I believe these 3 are the big contributing factors on why it varies. There's other factors I haven't mentioned but, these 3 should cover the main reasons why it varies.
1. Attraction Let's face it, a provider is more likely to want to service a customer that she's attracted to than someone she's not attracted to. It could be physically, mentally or both. The fact is, this is a contributing factor that people must be aware of and realize. The $ will only carry you so far.
2. Timing You can't expect to get 100% same performance from a provider when you catch her on a bad time. She could have just woke up, just had a bad experience with a previous customer or is just plain tired because she just had so many customers before you. Or, you caught her in a certain mood that she just doesn't feel like doing certain things.
3. Bringing bad vibes is a contributing factor on why your experience may not have gone well. Coming in drunk, talking loudly / rude, not smiling, displaying your anger will only work against you. The provider will rub off of your vibes and it's likely your experience won't be so good.
If you come across a provider who's attracted to you, caught her at a good time and you don't bring in any bad vibes, you'll likely get really good service / attitude from the provider. Sometimes, all these 3 don't fall into place and you only get 2 out of the 3 or even 1 out of the 3. Or, there's probably times where it's 0 for some.
The Your Mile May Vary factor. For some of you who don't know this abbreviated term, it's basically referring to how far you will go with that particular provider. Will you get the same services along with GFE / PSE from the same provider. It feels sick huh when you read someone else got this and that from a provider and you didn't? Heh, don't worry about it. It will vary between each individual. Don't be so focused on trying to copy someone else experience because he got DFK, DATY, GFE etc. And you didn't.
"Shit, he got that? Let me check her out, I think I can get that to!"
You're trying to match and even top the other guy on what he got. Heh, you know how guys can be, they can be very competitive. Just focus on yourself, have fun and don't expect. When you expect to get extras, you try too hard to get it that you end up screwing up the entire experience and you feel sick that you didn't get it in the end. Remember this, even if you may not get the same extras from one provider, another provider will eventually make up for it. Just make the most of your experience with the provider and enjoy.
So, why does this YMMV exist in an AMP? What are the contributing factors as to why there's YMMV?
1. Attraction (Physical / Mental)
2. Timing.
3. Vibes
I believe these 3 are the big contributing factors on why it varies. There's other factors I haven't mentioned but, these 3 should cover the main reasons why it varies.
1. Attraction Let's face it, a provider is more likely to want to service a customer that she's attracted to than someone she's not attracted to. It could be physically, mentally or both. The fact is, this is a contributing factor that people must be aware of and realize. The $ will only carry you so far.
2. Timing You can't expect to get 100% same performance from a provider when you catch her on a bad time. She could have just woke up, just had a bad experience with a previous customer or is just plain tired because she just had so many customers before you. Or, you caught her in a certain mood that she just doesn't feel like doing certain things.
3. Bringing bad vibes is a contributing factor on why your experience may not have gone well. Coming in drunk, talking loudly / rude, not smiling, displaying your anger will only work against you. The provider will rub off of your vibes and it's likely your experience won't be so good.
If you come across a provider who's attracted to you, caught her at a good time and you don't bring in any bad vibes, you'll likely get really good service / attitude from the provider. Sometimes, all these 3 don't fall into place and you only get 2 out of the 3 or even 1 out of the 3. Or, there's probably times where it's 0 for some.Well saiid Uki! I believe I get more then usual because I'm pretty young, in shape and good with people (Prior sales and customer service skills). It also helps that I can speak Korean and Japanese. You're probably thinking, I sound like a pretty good catch so why am I hitting AMPs? I'm just an addict to sex I guess. I still get one nighters from everyday girls but they just aren't as skilled. Just a few weeks ago, I did a local Japanese girl in her early 20's and when I had her on top of me, she was just completely lost! Also with a lot of local girls, BJ's aren't that good either. Then after the deed, I had the hardest time getting rid of her. I didn't want to cuddle or talk story LOL. I just wanted to go to bed by myself.
I've been at for about 20 = years, have been in this forum for awhile, even though I've only recently started posting, and was in another forum on the mainland years ago, but for the life of me don't know what "acg" is. I know what cg is, rcg, just not acg.
Thanks in advance.
I've been at for about 20 = years, have been in this forum for awhile, even though I've only recently started posting, and was in another forum on the mainland years ago, but for the life of me don't know what "acg" is. I know what cg is, rcg, just not acg.
Thanks in advance.Asian cowgirl is the Squat Hump.
Bad vibes is a factor on why a customer gets shitty service. You give off bad vibes by walking in there looking bothered, angry, upset etc. The provider, can see the signs and read your body language. She is being cautious / guarded the second she sees you. If you don't feel comfortable, it can make her feel uncomfortable to. Alot of guys overlook this / don't realize or care and just expect her to service him good regardless because he's the customer paying. I know some people may think:
"Yah but, I didn't say anything or even do anything bad. She's the one acting all moody"
Don't let the provider get to you and you start rubbing off on her vibes. Be smiley (not sinister smiling LOL) If she gets moody, tame her ass. Hehe. Don't start to get all moody yourself over her moods. You're rubbing off of her vibes and being like a female by doing that because females are known for being emotional / moody. Just play it cool. Let your good vibes overwhelm her bad vibes hehe. Lower her defenses and make her feel comfortable so that it would make her want to service you good. Sometimes, you'll run into providers who will not be all that smiley / happy in the beginning but, she'll later open up. You got to do your part to make it work in your favor. Especially, if you plan to follow through with that provider. Hey, you might as well then just throw in the towel and give up.
"Aww, shit, this is going to be junk already!"
The girls cannot help but assume that you might be LE, a demanding customer, a short tipper, troublemaker etc. I've had providers opened up and admitted things to me later on after their guards were lowered down and they felt more comfortable. Providers were scared and paranoid I was LE, or afraid to even do FS thinking I'm going to be aggressive / rough / demanding on them. (Might be my LE, MMA, thug, gangster, pissed off, fuck face look I guess. LOL) They assume that based on initial impression and categorizing me as someone that would be like that. Some of us don't give off that initial positive vibe to a provider right away that you may have to convince her otherwise. Heck, I even had a MS in foreign countries admitted she didn't like me. Why? Because she said I wasn't smiling. Until she saw me smiling and laughing with the girls, then she felt more comfortable.
Don't worry about not being able to have things turn out your way every single time. You can't please everyone every single time. But, at least you tried to make the effort. It's better than just not doing anything and allowing it to go downhill. How do you bring in good vibes?
1. Smiling alone is a big non verbal way of communicating that you are friendly. It shows that you're happy and don't pose a threat. It also shows to the provider that you're interested and happy with her.
2. Speak in a lighter / gentler tone. Just by the way you talk and the tone can be a turn off. If you sound rough, it may give the impression to her that you are a rough / bossy / aggressive type. How you speak and the tone of voice you use makes an impact. If you talk in a sweet / gentle tone, she'll perceive you as someone that's gentle and not rough.
3. Be funny / make them laugh. You don't have to be telling jokes to be funny and make people laugh. Jokes can only carry you so far until you hit a wall. But, being silly can take you farther. Your silly antics on what you do can make people laugh without having to say a word. Be stupid weird if you have to. Hehe. Laughter is a powerful ice breaker.
The providers may categorize / label you. If they do categorize you in a negative way, prove them otherwise that you are not what they may think you are. This way, whatever negative outlook she may have on you, it will start to shift towards a positive outlook. You'll notice that some providers start opening up later on but, you felt it was just too late already. Therefore, no repeat for you? It's because it took her a bit more time until her comfort level with you started to kick in. Speed up the process by bringing positive vibes, so that your first encounter would stand a better chance of it being good. Heck, it certainly won't hurt your chances.
I enjoyed reading your post. I'm not much of an AMP guy but I think I can summerize your post with a cliff notes version for those too lazy to read your detailed post. Don't be a JERK, LOL. This forum would be so boring without ProFuksHer KaraUki, LOL.
I enjoyed reading your post. I'm not much of an AMP guy but I think I can summerize your post with a cliff notes version for those too lazy to read your detailed post. Don't be a JERK, LOL. This forum would be so boring without ProFuksHer KaraUki, LOL.Hehe. Same here Oldeep french kisser. I actually look forward to seeing what was written in the KB Tactics thread moreso than what's written in the KB threads. I'm like.
"Hmmm, what did this person write in the KB Tactic Thread?" When I click on the thread.
"Aww man, only something short that was posted" LOL. I luv it when you or someone else writes something long. Plus, the new guys who curious about KBs.
Asian cowgirl is the Squat Hump.Http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=145992987
Say you try out a new AMP and you are waiting in the room for the girl. The girl that comes in isn't up to your standards, how do you go about getting a new one without being rude or rubbing anyone the wrong way. In other words, how do you ensure you get a girl you want? I've used the "I want to meet more girls" thoughts?
Say you try out a new AMP and you are waiting in the room for the girl. The girl that comes in isn't up to your standards, how do you go about getting a new one without being rude or rubbing anyone the wrong way. In other words, how do you ensure you get a girl you want? I've used the "I want to meet more girls" thoughts?Just my two cents here. First, I would read this forum and get an idea of the girls working at that particular AMP (memorize the names and try to remember a thing or two about each one). Talk story to MS about which girls are there, exchange a few names that you already know of, then let MS decide. When the provider comes in as you immediately sense bad vibes, then you ask her what her name is, and when she tells you, you can tell her that you are sorry but you had told MS that you wanted _____ (another name on the list you memorized). Usually the girls will realize the misunderstanding and immediately excuse themselves to exchange themselves with the other provider you just named. One thing that the girls do not want to do is steal another provider's customer, unless the customer specifically asks for a certain one. Just hope that the next girl is better than the first one.
Say you try out a new AMP and you are waiting in the room for the girl. The girl that comes in isn't up to your standards, how do you go about getting a new one without being rude or rubbing anyone the wrong way. In other words, how do you ensure you get a girl you want? I've used the "I want to meet more girls" thoughts?I always select from line up or couch etc before I head to room or I ask for a specific girl. If mama insists I go to room and she will send me someone I will like then it is on her if I decline the girl. I just say no in a nice way no reason needed, they already know. It is way better to have an uncomfortable moment than a crappy hour. It is a business and they know that as well as you should. I seldom ask for house fee back but if there is no one I want to get with I will. Don't be a chump. The times I was it always left me kicking myself later.
NotSoOriganal
12-06-12, 08:10
Bad vibes is a factor on why a customer gets shitty service. You give off bad vibes by walking in there looking bothered, angry, upset etc. The provider, can see the signs and read your body language. She is being cautious / guarded the second she sees you. If you don't feel comfortable, it can make her feel uncomfortable to. Alot of guys overlook this / don't realize or care and just expect her to service him good regardless because he's the customer paying. I know some people may think:
"Yah but, I didn't say anything or even do anything bad. She's the one acting all moody"
Don't let the provider get to you and you start rubbing off on her vibes. Be smiley (not sinister smiling LOL) If she gets moody, tame her ass. Hehe. Don't start to get all moody yourself over her moods. You're rubbing off of her vibes and being like a female by doing that because females are known for being emotional / moody. Just play it cool. Let your good vibes overwhelm her bad vibes hehe. Lower her defenses and make her feel comfortable so that it would make her want to service you good. Sometimes, you'll run into providers who will not be all that smiley / happy in the beginning but, she'll later open up. You got to do your part to make it work in your favor. Especially, if you plan to follow through with that provider. Hey, you might as well then just throw in the towel and give up.
"Aww, shit, this is going to be junk already!"
The girls cannot help but assume that you might be LE, a demanding customer, a short tipper, troublemaker etc. I've had providers opened up and admitted things to me later on after their guards were lowered down and they felt more comfortable. Providers were scared and paranoid I was LE, or afraid to even do FS thinking I'm going to be aggressive / rough / demanding on them. (Might be my LE, MMA, thug, gangster, pissed off, fuck face look I guess. LOL) They assume that based on initial impression and categorizing me as someone that would be like that. Some of us don't give off that initial positive vibe to a provider right away that you may have to convince her otherwise. Heck, I even had a MS in foreign countries admitted she didn't like me. Why? Because she said I wasn't smiling. Until she saw me smiling and laughing with the girls, then she felt more comfortable.
Don't worry about not being able to have things turn out your way every single time. You can't please everyone every single time. But, at least you tried to make the effort. It's better than just not doing anything and allowing it to go downhill. How do you bring in good vibes?
1. Smiling alone is a big non verbal way of communicating that you are friendly. It shows that you're happy and don't pose a threat. It also shows to the provider that you're interested and happy with her.
2. Speak in a lighter / gentler tone. Just by the way you talk and the tone can be a turn off. If you sound rough, it may give the impression to her that you are a rough / bossy / aggressive type. How you speak and the tone of voice you use makes an impact. If you talk in a sweet / gentle tone, she'll perceive you as someone that's gentle and not rough.
3. Be funny / make them laugh. You don't have to be telling jokes to be funny and make people laugh. Jokes can only carry you so far until you hit a wall. But, being silly can take you farther. Your silly antics on what you do can make people laugh without having to say a word. Be stupid weird if you have to. Hehe. Laughter is a powerful ice breaker.
The providers may categorize / label you. If they do categorize you in a negative way, prove them otherwise that you are not what they may think you are. This way, whatever negative outlook she may have on you, it will start to shift towards a positive outlook. You'll notice that some providers start opening up later on but, you felt it was just too late already. Therefore, no repeat for you? It's because it took her a bit more time until her comfort level with you started to kick in. Speed up the process by bringing positive vibes, so that your first encounter would stand a better chance of it being good. Heck, it certainly won't hurt your chances.Best advice ever Uki, pin pointed. Specially speaking softly and smoothly, make it seem like you got game, and and I. Thought I was the only one that liked to do weird shit to make um Laff hahaha
Hornysamowen
10-17-14, 07:19
Hey, Bit Surfer read this thread to get you started in this hobby.
One good thing is they accept credit card. You can pay $$ upfront, or pay hf first and pay $. 5 in second charge. I just charge $$ upfront.
I regret to pay the $$ upfront at that moment. Personally, I would never pay by credit card (and especially not an "upfront" payment for the provider). First, payment by credit card creates a permanent and formal financial record of a customer's payment for prostitution. Second, I wouldn't want any shady characters at AMPs to know any of my credit card details and my full legal name (particularly when there's so much concern about identity theft and financial fraud these days). Third, the hobby of enjoying AMPs can easily tend to become addictive, and "payment by plastic" rather than with "real" cash makes it significantly easier to spend too much money on the hobby. Just my opinion.
MidgetMac87
03-30-15, 00:18
Personally, I would never pay by credit card (and especially not an "upfront" payment for the provider). First, payment by credit card creates a permanent and formal financial record of a customer's payment for prostitution. Second, I wouldn't want any shady characters at AMPs to know any of my credit card details and my full legal name (particularly when there's so much concern about identity theft and financial fraud these days). Third, the hobby of enjoying AMPs can easily tend to become addictive, and "payment by plastic" rather than with "real" cash makes it significantly easier to spend too much money on the hobby. Just my opinion.All of these are valid statements. Paying by CC is not only more than a little dangerous, but it presents a slippery slope for people who have an addictive nature.
Personally, I would never pay by credit card (and especially not an "upfront" payment for the provider). First, payment by credit card creates a permanent and formal financial record of a customer's payment for prostitution. What was mayor of the Big Island thinking when he used a county credit card at a KB?
Personally, I would never pay by credit card (and especially not an "upfront" payment for the provider). First, payment by credit card creates a permanent and formal financial record of a customer's payment for prostitution. Second, I wouldn't want any shady characters at AMPs to know any of my credit card details and my full legal name (particularly when there's so much concern about identity theft and financial fraud these days). Third, the hobby of enjoying AMPs can easily tend to become addictive, and "payment by plastic" rather than with "real" cash makes it significantly easier to spend too much money on the hobby. Just my opinion.Totally agree!
What was mayor of the Big Island thinking when he used a county credit card at a KB?Yup, that was foolish. Wonder what he got for that $892 he charged to a government credit card at Club Evergreen? Then he didn't make a reimbursement until three months later, in effect receiving an interest-free loan from the taxpayers.
What was mayor of the Big Island thinking when he used a county credit card at a KB?A bar is kind of a grey area. I wouldn't use a company card at a bar, haven't to this day, I'd just take a cash advance at a ATM close by, but that can even be called in suspect. I missed that news, recent or pretty old? Not that I watch or read the news daily, probably should start.
A bar is kind of a grey area. I wouldn't use a company card at a bar, haven't to this day, I'd just take a cash advance at a ATM close by, but that can even be called in suspect. I missed that news, recent or pretty old? Not that I watch or read the news daily, probably should start.http://www.kitv.com/news/kenoi-paid-hostess-club-bill-with-government-card/32082158
I remembah wen I wuz a neighbor island buggah. I go wild goin to the big city Honolulu. Now that I live here in Honolulu. Meh.
Yup, that was foolish. Wonder what he got for that $892 he charged to a government credit card at Club Evergreen? Then he didn't make a reimbursement until three months later, in effect receiving an interest-free loan from the taxpayers.I don't know if he picked up the entire tab or just his own portion, but he was there with 2 other guys for about 2 hours. It was a Tuesday night and think it was the 16th.
Yup, that was foolish. Wonder what he got for that $892 he charged to a government credit card at Club Evergreen? Then he didn't make a reimbursement until three months later, in effect receiving an interest-free loan from the taxpayers.What a dumb okole!
MidgetMac87
03-30-15, 07:08
http://www.kitv.com/news/kenoi-paid-hostess-club-bill-with-government-card/32082158
I remembah wen I wuz a neighbor island buggah. I go wild goin to the big city Honolulu. Now that I live here in Honolulu. Meh.That's how my friend is every time he comes from the Big Island. Just wants to get drunk and go to AMP's. When I first got here I had that enthusiasm. Now I'm just methodical about who I visit. Imagine the mayor's family when they saw the report. Probably got chased around the house with a broomstick LOL.
Yup, that was foolish. Wonder what he got for that $892 he charged to a government credit card at Club Evergreen? Then he didn't make a reimbursement until three months later, in effect receiving an interest-free loan from the taxpayers.He should have taken himself and the other two to a massage parlor and still have $200 left for drinks! He could have written it off as "business" expense by introducing legislation to start some massage parlors on the Big Island, saying the costs were to "improve" the business sector.
MidgetMac87
03-30-15, 17:39
He should have taken himself and the other two to a massage parlor and still have $200 left for drinks! He could have written it off as "business" expense by introducing legislation to start some massage parlors on the Big Island, saying the costs were to "improve" the business sector.You should sign up to be his political adviser LOL.
He should have taken himself and the other two to a massage parlor and still have $200 left for drinks! He could have written it off as "business" expense by introducing legislation to start some massage parlors on the Big Island, saying the costs were to "improve" the business sector.He broke the law and proper procedures on so many levels, and this incident wasn't even the only time. If he weren't the mayor, he would've been suspended, or even fired.
He broke the law and proper procedures on so many levels, and this incident wasn't even the only time. If he weren't the mayor, he would've been suspended, or even fired.Yup, this incident wasn't the only time. News reports say that he's made at least twenty-four other reimbursements for expenses that weren't properly chargeable to his government credit card, but so far the details on those reimbursements haven't been disclosed to the public.
Realdeal808
03-30-15, 20:34
http://www.kitv.com/news/kenoi-paid-hostess-club-bill-with-government-card/32082158
I remembah wen I wuz a neighbor island buggah. I go wild goin to the big city Honolulu. Now that I live here in Honolulu. Meh.He was like Bad Decision Rob Lowe. Poor dude. He brought this on himself but almost feel sorry for him. He gave one of the best commencement speeches I've ever seen for HPU not too long ago. If you haven't seen it, it's on YouTube. Really good.
MidgetMac87
03-30-15, 20:36
Yup, this incident wasn't the only time. News reports say that he's made at least twenty-four other reimbursements for expenses that weren't properly chargeable to his government credit card, but so far the details on those reimbursements haven't been disclosed to the public.Nothing new with a corrupt politician doing what they want with the citizens money. He just was dumb enough to get caught or didn't ensure he had people in place who could hide it from him. I'm pretty sure we got other politicians who are more prolific than the mayor who've done just as bad or worst in the state of Hawaii.
Yup, this incident wasn't the only time. News reports say that he's made at least twenty-four other reimbursements for expenses that weren't properly chargeable to his government credit card, but so far the details on those reimbursements haven't been disclosed to the public.It's unfortunate that all the dirt is being brought up. If it was just the Evergreen incident, you could forgive him. However since it happened two dozen or more times, you can't do the "oops, mistake" excuse. I wonder if the Hawaii island folks will forgive him. But more importantly, what will his wife do? Good luck Mayor Billy.
Member #5204
05-31-15, 00:00
I'm new to AMPs but not new to massage w / HE. I am also new to this forum. I've worked in several states on the mainland that provided a HE after the massage but have yet to find anything like what I have read about here on O'ahu. All I can say is thanks for the information and guidance. The one thing I have not found is a damage report to the pocket.
Please feel free to PM. I just want to make sure I arrive prepared and surely don't want to short change these beauties!
I've had a chance to look through the thread, and seriously, thank you for all the tips on the Do's and Don't for the newbies like me. I'm thinking of trying the AMP experience, and was looking for some recommendations on where to go and who to see, would prefer a more discreet place as this is my first time and am kinda nervous about LE. I was reading through the various threads and was thing maybe rejuve, Tokyo spa or someplace in CC.
I would love it if you could give me some recommendations, either through PM or replying to this post.
Rico Suave808
07-01-15, 23:19
I've had a chance to look through the thread, and seriously, thank you for all the tips on the Do's and Don't for the newbies like me. I'm thinking of trying the AMP experience, and was looking for some recommendations on where to go and who to see, would prefer a more discreet place as this is my first time and am kinda nervous about LE. I was reading through the various threads and was thing maybe rejuve, Tokyo spa or someplace in CC.
I would love it if you could give me some recommendations, either through PM or replying to this post.Go to Empire. You cannot possibly have a bad experience there. You are sure to have a good time with any of the girls. I recommend Joy, I had a real good time with her. Please post a report. It gives you a lot of creditability.
I've had a chance to look through the thread, and seriously, thank you for all the tips on the Do's and Don't for the newbies like me. I'm thinking of trying the AMP experience, and was looking for some recommendations on where to go and who to see, would prefer a more discreet place as this is my first time and am kinda nervous about LE. I was reading through the various threads and was thing maybe rejuve, Tokyo spa or someplace in CC.
I would love it if you could give me some recommendations, either through PM or replying to this post.Would recommend Rejuve cause that parking entrance through the backstreet is perfect! No one sees you coming or going. Use to get nervous about Empire cause your hanging out on the second floor in view of everyone.
Would recommend Rejuve cause that parking entrance through the backstreet is perfect! No one sees you coming or going. Use to get nervous about Empire cause your hanging out on the second floor in view of everyone.The good thing about Empire is they don't have signs like Hula Girl. But yeah if its busy you might be standing at the entrance for a minute. The only thing ReJuve needs is a table shower!
Candyman2002
07-02-15, 16:10
Would recommend Rejuve cause that parking entrance through the backstreet is perfect! No one sees you coming or going. Use to get nervous about Empire cause your hanging out on the second floor in view of everyone.I have to agree that Rejuve is the place to go. Perfect set up and the hot girls are HOT! The mama there is the best in the biz. Really clean and the girls are classy.
Would recommend Rejuve cause that parking entrance through the backstreet is perfect! No one sees you coming or going. A couple visits ago, as I was leaving Rejuve and walking to my car just before sunset, some dude was standing near one of the apartments and staring at me over the wall. Personally, I think Tokyo Spa is the most discreet if you go via the back entrance.
I've had a chance to look through the thread, and seriously, thank you for all the tips on the Do's and Don't for the newbies like me. I'm thinking of trying the AMP experience, and was looking for some recommendations on where to go and who to see, would prefer a more discreet place as this is my first time and am kinda nervous about LE. I was reading through the various threads and was thing maybe rejuve, Tokyo spa or someplace in CC.
I would love it if you could give me some recommendations, either through PM or replying to this post.It depends on the type of girl that your sexually attracted to.
If you want some MILF Action; try Kison Spa. Or if you want some Asian love try Empire / Tokyo / Top and other places. There's plenty of places depending on the type of girl your looking for. Who knows.
Got to see Page and now its all coming back to me. Her service, wait her youthfullness is what gets me. She loves to fuck and she is on the younger side. Tried Empire and Tokyo, her service and looks are better then both.
Page was super happy to see me and junior was really wanting to see her. She has this personality that makes you feel good when you just walk into the door. Digging the cleaness of the place, very professional, kudos to Mamasan.
Brought her some chocolate this time and told her it was for after. She gave me a long hug and started groping junior, he was already ready to go. Help me undress and got to kiss her all over while she was busy with me. Popped it into the shower and when I came back into the room she was waiting for me buck naked! She gave that qute japanese style innocent look. Wanted to start but decided to take it slow and enjoy the sess. Started off with daty and her nani was super sweet and and wet. Couldn't hold out so I moved over to her while she was on her back and let her foddle and slurp my magic mike. She gives some of the best head and seems like she learned some new tricks. Page held on to the bottom of my shaft and started going to town. First licking the down the left and right sides, flicking her tongue and rotating around to top of junior. Had some nice titty play while she gave me a mouth massage that felt damn good. Asked her to go into 69 so I could get her wet again. Must of done a good job, else she missed me, cause she started pulling more pressure and I felt like just letting go then and there. Had to buy time, so asked her to put her ass in the air and go into doggie. Began teasing her bean with my thumb then more daty to get her wiggling. Kept making these qute sounds and wiggling has sweet ass, that was super fun. Got the condom on and went deep and slow, then started teasing her again with to tip of my cock. The view was superb with her ass in the air, started banging and had to slow up again, she has awesome pussy control because it felt real good and tight. Lowered her sexy body down while staying in doggie and did side doggie while both of us laided down. Stayed like that for a good 5-10 minutes, one arm holding her legs spread open and the other massage her nipples. She started getting even more horny if that is possible and gave me some passionate dfk. Mounted up so I could kiss her some more while in mish. Must of been straight 20 minutes of good fucking, and seeing her sexy body gave me a second wind. Tried another position, folded one leg under her while propping up my other leg against hers to spread her legs and pussy wide. That view was even more killer, took it slow again just pulling in and out. She wanted more dfk and decided to finish off. Straight mish, but she lifted her hips and ass up in the air while she was underneath. Started hitting her g-spot and her sweet pussy began to tightening up even more. That was where things started getting hot and sweaty. Like another member said, she started fucking me from the bottom. Came in close and finished off with deep dfk and a soaking went pussy that devoured my cock. Think Mama and the other girls heard me when I exploded. Felt so good stayed deep in her for a little while longer while she brushed my hair back and gave me some sweet kisses. Rolled up next to her and couldn't move for the next 5 minutes. All we did was run hands over each other's sweaty bodies and stay there in pure bliss. Close to time, she started to massage my neck and back a little and said she wanted to clean me up. Walked me to the shower and we showered together like she was my gf. Back to the room she gave me a long hug and didn't let go, man she knows how to make a brother feel good. Help me dress and walked me all the way to the door, didn't want to let her hand go and just wanted to take her with me. Yeah it is all coming back to me, now I know what quality is and its sweet sexy Page. Will repeat? Fuck yeah!
A couple visits ago, as I was leaving Rejuve and walking to my car just before sunset, some dude was standing near one of the apartments and staring at me over the wall. Personally, I think Tokyo Spa is the most discreet if you go via the back entrance.Use to like the entrance to Toyko Spa, yet at times felt like there were too many people coming and going from the gym in the back else too many people at the star bucks or the bar up front that would see you. Plus the 45 minute knock keeps getting to me, swear I made it back to the car and checked the time, 44 minutes total with the walk.
Got to see Page and now its all coming back to me. Her service, wait her youthfullness is what gets me. She loves to fuck and she is on the younger side. Tried Empire and Tokyo, her service and looks are better then both.
Page was super happy to see me and junior was really wanting to see her. She has this personality that makes you feel good when you just walk into the door. Digging the cleaness of the place, very professional, kudos to Mamasan.
Brought her some chocolate this time and told her it was for after. She gave me a long hug and started groping junior, he was already ready to go. Help me undress and got to kiss her all over while she was busy with me. Popped it into the shower and when I came back into the room she was waiting for me buck naked! She gave that qute japanese style innocent look. Wanted to start but decided to take it slow and enjoy the sess. Started off with daty and her nani was super sweet and and wet. Couldn't hold out so I moved over to her while she was on her back and let her foddle and slurp my magic mike. She gives some of the best head and seems like she learned some new tricks. Page held on to the bottom of my shaft and started going to town. First licking the down the left and right sides, flicking her tongue and rotating around to top of junior. Had some nice titty play while she gave me a mouth massage that felt damn good. Asked her to go into 69 so I could get her wet again. Must of done a good job, else she missed me, cause she started pulling more pressure and I felt like just letting go then and there. Had to buy time, so asked her to put her ass in the air and go into doggie. Began teasing her bean with my thumb then more daty to get her wiggling. Kept making these qute sounds and wiggling has sweet ass, that was super fun. Got the condom on and went deep and slow, then started teasing her again with to tip of my cock. The view was superb with her ass in the air, started banging and had to slow up again, she has awesome pussy control because it felt real good and tight. Lowered her sexy body down while staying in doggie and did side doggie while both of us laided down. Stayed like that for a good 5-10 minutes, one arm holding her legs spread open and the other massage her nipples. She started getting even more horny if that is possible and gave me some passionate dfk. Mounted up so I could kiss her some more while in mish. Must of been straight 20 minutes of good fucking, and seeing her sexy body gave me a second wind. Tried another position, folded one leg under her while propping up my other leg against hers to spread her legs and pussy wide. That view was even more killer, took it slow again just pulling in and out. She wanted more dfk and decided to finish off. Straight mish, but she lifted her hips and ass up in the air while she was underneath. Started hitting her g-spot and her sweet pussy began to tightening up even more. That was where things started getting hot and sweaty. Like another member said, she started fucking me from the bottom. Came in close and finished off with deep dfk and a soaking went pussy that devoured my cock. Think Mama and the other girls heard me when I exploded. Felt so good stayed deep in her for a little while longer while she brushed my hair back and gave me some sweet kisses. Rolled up next to her and couldn't move for the next 5 minutes. All we did was run hands over each other's sweaty bodies and stay there in pure bliss. Close to time, she started to massage my neck and back a little and said she wanted to clean me up. Walked me to the shower and we showered together like she was my gf. Back to the room she gave me a long hug and didn't let go, man she knows how to make a brother feel good. Help me dress and walked me all the way to the door, didn't want to let her hand go and just wanted to take her with me. Yeah it is all coming back to me, now I know what quality is and its sweet sexy Page. Will repeat? Fuck yeah!Woah bradda-man, I like the report but I think you posted it on the wrong thread.
Woah bradda-man, I like the report but I think you posted it on the wrong thread.Might have been the beer, wasn't there a reply post asking what kind of service one gets with Page from the Rejuve discreet location disccussion?
If anything, as a First Timer, Page would be one of the best to be with!
SexsSarved9141
07-29-15, 06:09
New to this and first post. I went to a AMP in Hong Kong and it was amazing. Loved great massage to feel good and HJ with masseuse and great young mamasan that made the experience worthwhile.
You all have great stories and I am glad I came here to research scene. Am looking for a discreet experience here with the same stuff. Want it to be discreet because I hate how here, it feels like everyone knows everyone else somehow.
No offense to the beautiful girls and the great gents who comment here, but I also don't want PIV service because I want that to be with someone I love versus someone I pay. HJ, BJ, maybe even grind would be great.
My priorities are 1) Massage quality, 2) Looks of masseuse (prefer younger), 3) extra service. Any advice you have would be greatly appreciated.
So do if the ad says 60 $ for 1 hr is that.
60 $ for 1 hour of just the massage? Then if I want more like FS (full service?) I pay 100 $ on top of the 60? Totalling to 160 $?
Newbies bring 200 good reasons with you and you will leave smiling.
So do if the ad says 60 $ for 1 hr is that.
60 $ for 1 hour of just the massage? Then if I want more like FS (full service?) I pay 100 $ on top of the 60? Totalling to 160 $?
So do if the ad says 60 $ for 1 hr is that.
60 $ for 1 hour of just the massage? Then if I want more like FS (full service?) I pay 100 $ on top of the 60? Totalling to 160 $?Correct, the $60 is the house fee (HF). The tip is depending on the service, $100 is a little low for FS; maybe ok for a GILF, but for a CYT, expect to pay $150.
So do if the ad says 60 $ for 1 hr is that.
60 $ for 1 hour of just the massage? Then if I want more like FS (full service?) I pay 100 $ on top of the 60? Totalling to 160 $?That may be around right price for the "average" sized snakes, but if you got a large swollen unit or a sledge hammer black anaconda wrecking ball, you may have some problems from the mama san who may not want to see her girls get laid out, stretched on the gurney 911 ambulance from bbc! Or she may decide to charge double for twice the damage done by a battering ram easily twice the size or over the average.
That may be around right price for the "average" sized snakes, but if you got a large swollen unit or a sledge hammer black anaconda wrecking ball, you may have some problems from the mama san who may not want to see her girls get laid out, stretched on the gurney 911 ambulance from bbc! Or she may decide to charge double for twice the damage done by a battering ram easily twice the size or over the average.A comedian once asked, "Which has more feeling, your finger or the inside of your ear with your finger inside it?
Good advice to remember, not only for masseuses who play but also for AMPs:
Anyway, what's done is done and my experience reinforced what I already should know from experience:
1. Never tip upfront.
2. Agree on the time upfront if not clearly understood.
3. Test her upfront to give you a preview of what she can do (e.g., see how she reacts if you lean in to kiss or start touching her, etc.).
4. Never tip upfront.
UrchinLife
08-15-16, 02:25
Hey guys, I was heading to Honolulu for about a week or two in November and so far on my list I have kison and crystal healing (to see Monica and maybe some others). Any other recommendations on who to see while I am there? I am from Vegas and have some input on some local agencies as the massage scene here has died for a bit due to police activity. Feel free to PM me if you'd like! Any info is appreciated! Thanks!
NightOwl24
08-15-16, 23:21
Good advice to remember, not only for masseuses who play but also for AMPs:Whats the best approach if they ask for tip upfront? Do you decline politely or give half?
NightOwl24
08-15-16, 23:44
Hey guys, I was heading to Honolulu for about a week or two in November and so far on my list I have kison and crystal healing (to see Monica and maybe some others). Any other recommendations on who to see while I am there? I am from Vegas and have some input on some local agencies as the massage scene here has died for a bit due to police activity. Feel free to PM me if you'd like! Any info is appreciated! Thanks!Heard nara from roses may be back during that time, Page from rejuve is good as well. Never been to happiness, seems like they have quality girls. Mona at seven is enjoyable but YMMV. Hanabi at hanabi is a MILF I haven't tried. Reviews on those girls pretty thorough. If you have a craving for white chocolate (not much reviews I noticed) I only seen bridget at gogo (decent, slightly rushed no bbjcim S:8) and sky from VIP which is a standard mp for tourists. She was chatty, cheerful some lfk, didn't try daty. Had cfs slightly rushed overall s:8. But YMMV.
Good luck might be a busy few weeks for you.
Whats the best approach if they ask for tip upfront? Do you decline politely or give half?Politely decline and explain why. She may feel you do not have the full tip amount. You can always show her the full amount and then put it back in your wallet. If she still insists on being paid before services rendered (red flag for poor service), you can always ask the mama to send another girl.
Hey guys, I was heading to Honolulu for about a week or two in November and so far on my list I have kison and crystal healing (to see Monica and maybe some others). Any other recommendations on who to see while I am there? I am from Vegas and have some input on some local agencies as the massage scene here has died for a bit due to police activity. Feel free to PM me if you'd like! Any info is appreciated! Thanks!I would not recommend walk-in but making appts in advance. I would suggest Rejuve. Dallas, Page or Nana.
Dream. Nani, Happiness. Sasha, Jennifer, Nirvana. Lulu. YMVV past performance may not be indicative of future results. Have fun and b safe.
Whats the best approach if they ask for tip upfront? Do you decline politely or give half?
Politely decline and explain why. She may feel you do not have the full tip amount. You can always show her the full amount and then put it back in your wallet. If she still insists on being paid before services rendered (red flag for poor service), you can always ask the mama to send another girl.Completely agree with Blake's good advice.
Three more points: (1) in addition to being polite, try to appear relaxed, friendly and confident; (2) in response to NightOwl's question, personally I wouldn't agree to "give half" of the tip in advance of the service; and (3) as a potential alternative to requesting another provider, a customer can also go to another of the many available AMPs. It's advisable to have a backup plan in mind before visiting a new provider, just in case any problem arises.
Here's another vivid example (below) of why AMP customers shouldn't agree to pay the tip in advance. Provider wants payment of $150 (the standard full-service tip) in advance. Then she stops the customer from removing her underwear and tells the customer that she's on her menstrual period. The customer ends up receiving only a covered BJ during a session that lasts "20 minutes" -- no sex and no massage.
TOFTT, didn't see anything about Anika before. She's very cool and nice to talk with but asked for $. 5 up front which is always the sign. Started off with mutual rubbing and tried to take the underwear off but was stopped she said she was on her period but could get a CBJ. WTF! Anyway, went with it and it was actually good but no lmk or anything. Said come back in a week and we could fuck, no thanks. Don't have an endless supply of $$ so going to move on. Reeommned avoid, paid $$ for a CBJ and no massage. On and out in 20 minutes.
Here's another vivid example (below) of why AMP customers shouldn't agree to pay the tip in advance. Provider wants payment of $150 (the standard full-service tip) in advance. Then she stops the customer from removing her underwear and tells the customer that she's on her menstrual period. The customer ends up receiving only a covered BJ during a session that lasts "20 minutes" -- no sex and no massage.What are you talking about? I only go to AMPs for relaxation. For some reason, the girls really like me because they keep having sex with me. I just guess I am a stud. I never asked for it, they just did it. I provide them a tip depending on how much fun I have.
Here's another vivid example (below) of why AMP customers shouldn't agree to pay the tip in advance. Provider wants payment of $150 (the standard full-service tip) in advance. Then she stops the customer from removing her underwear and tells the customer that she's on her menstrual period. The customer ends up receiving only a covered BJ during a session that lasts "20 minutes" -- no sex and no massage.Here is yet another example (below) of why AMP customers should decline to pay a provider's tip in advance. In this instance, the provider wants and gets a $200 tip "up front". Customer then ends up with only a back massage and a covered BJ. Provider refuses to have sex unless the customer pays her an additional $100.
I decided to back out and when she comes back I asked for my HF back and she told me NO they don't give the hf back. So, I said fine. Changed my mind again and she requested 200 up front. I gave it her. I laid down and she told me to flip over and started giving me a stupid oily back massage which felt shitty. She kept walking out of the room. I started to feel paranoid thinking about the recent raid at Gogo. Anyhow, she walks back in and tells me to flip over. Starts giving me a CBJ which did feel good. After 10 minutes into it, I tell her I'm ready to fuck. She tell me NO, its already been 30 minutes. And then tells me if I want to fuck, it will cost another 100. OMG! At that point I was mad and realized she upscaled my dumb ass. So I just laid there until she finished me off. I wasted 260 for a CBJ! Horrible service, bad attitude, upscale, rip off. I will never go back to Ocean Spa.
Here is yet another example (below) of why AMP customers should decline to pay a provider's tip in advance. In this instance, the provider wants and gets a $200 tip "up front". Customer then ends up with only a back massage and a covered BJ. Provider refuses to have sex unless the customer pays her an additional $100.Here's another educational pay-in-advance experience (below). After the rinse, the provider "immediately asked for $$ upfront for an hour on top of the house fee". Customer ends up with a "scowling inanimate lump of flesh," who uses plastic nipple covers, "won't let you lick or kiss her anywhere," and wants even more cash simply for doggy-style sex.
Wandered over to Hula's after having one too many drinks, never been before. I like women with some meat on their bones and saw Kiki as a perfect fit, Thick everywhere. Face was meh. She put on a real bitchy attitude right from the start, figured it might get better eventually. Nope. After an extremely unenthusiastic rinse on the wash table, she immediately asked for $$ upfront for an hour on top of the house fee. A bit more expensive than I'm used to at AMPs but I thought maybe it'd be worth it. Nope. After handing her the tip, she started preoccupying herself with random things like fixing her make up and changing the song on her playlist while I laid there waiting for 5-10 min, I had to literally ask if we could begin. With a sigh she undressed, dragged herself to JR and slipped on a rubber. I tried to run my hands over her soft skin and ample curves, but she wasn't having it. She's super crazy about protection, even has plastic nipple covers and won't let you lick or kiss her anywhere. She looks great but, damn, what's the point? She scowled through a CBJ. Although she seemed unhappy about it, it was actualy somewhat enjoyable, got some nice lips on her, decent technique. She climbed on top, nani smelled like the fish market. Yuck. Rode me for a good 5 min before urging me to switch up, I wanted doggy but she said mish or $ extra. WTF? I proceeded to mish (I hate mish) and tried to keep JR up shagging this scowling inanimate lump of flesh. I told her I was tired, laid back over looking forward and hoping to end with a BJ. She got off the bed and started fucking around with her phone again, I asked her if we could keep going, she sez wait a min. Mama san comes by and taps on the door. It must have been 30-35 min tops including the useless washdown. You've got to be f* kidding me! She tries to upsell another $$ for an hour, I negotiate 40 for some quick head. She finished me with another covered blowjob after I closed my eyes and focused on the highlight reel. I'm no ugly, rude, fat or unclean dude either, her attitude and service is completely unjustifiable in my eyes. Waste of time and hard earned money. Will not repeat and be warned, stay away. S=2 A=2 L=6.
Happy Seeker 8
11-02-16, 03:27
Good advice to remember, not only for masseuses who play but also for AMPs:RE: #1 and #4 --NEVER TIP UPFRONT.
I wrote before. Tip (s) is EARNED. Would you go to a restaurant, and waiter just brought the menu only-would you tip him then?
Newbies, please take note of the useful report below. If a provider is a "dead fish" with unreasonable rules, don't feel intimidated and think that you need to continue. Sometimes it's better to just "cut bait" (as this customer did) and not waste your hard-earned money.
They said holly available. What the hell. Time to toftt. I look at her and wow, cute. Spinner bod from LA, tats, Viet / philipina mix. Took shower as she watched, she seemed nervous and new as to what to do. In to room, she says, I charge 200. Whaaaat? NOPE. I said sorry, won't happen. I tell her the going rate and she says ok. I know shit was going to get worse. I go to snuggle up and get busy and she lays down like a dead fish. I go try a little kiss and she says no, I don't do that. OK, that's it, I tell her to get mama, were done. No other girls available, mama gives house fee back, I leave 20 for the shower and a little boob touch for Holly. She said she's going home soon. May as well just stay in LA. Too bad, was cute, but that shit won't work here.
Newbies, please take note of the useful report below. If a provider is a "dead fish" with unreasonable rules, don't feel intimidated and think that you need to continue. Sometimes it's better to just "cut bait" (as this customer did) and not waste your hard-earned money.Hey redneck & other seniors out there pointing these tips out for us, THANK YOU.
Still relatively new, but have been burned with either the classic upsell or paid in advance with horrble service. These tips & pointers help keep the status quo.
Fellow mongers stay safe and happy.
Raze.
How do I tell the difference. I find both advertise in the same BP and CL section, many offer FS yet there seems to be some big differences between them. As far as I can tell AMP have store fronts and MT joints are suites in CC or other buildings.
AMP will give you 60 minutes of FS while MT will give a 40-45 minute massage with 20-15 minutes of HJ, BJ, FS or all three. Still, I'm finding that I can end the massage whenever I want and start the action. So I think I could get 60 minutes and skip the massage if I wanted to do so. Only one I went to was strictly HJ only, no FS all the others had a FS option.
At an AMP I have been quoted the price and asked to pay upfront. At an MT joint price is never mentioned and I just tip according to what services I got and how good the service was. The girls at AMPs tend to be much hotter while the girls at MT joints are pretty and sometimes a bit older. Still I've seen some very hot ones so maybe it's not fair to say AMP girls are hotter. MT are notorious for using fake photos, AMPs (the good ones) have legitimate photos.
It's confusing for a newbie to tell the difference, especially if someone just wants a BJ at an AMP it would be a waste of an hour for the girl, but at the MT joint she will do it and get a bigger tip after the massage. Also the MT girls tend to not be pros or as skilled as AMP girls but again I met some very skilled MT girls so it may not be a fair comparison.
Are these fair differences? Personally, I like the MT places but every time I try a new one I'm confused as to which one it is, AMP or MT?
Here's another educational pay-in-advance experience (below). After the rinse, the provider "immediately asked for $$ upfront for an hour on top of the house fee". Customer ends up with a "scowling inanimate lump of flesh," who uses plastic nipple covers, "won't let you lick or kiss her anywhere," and wants even more cash simply for doggy-style sex.Here's one more pay-in-advance tragedy. Below is a recent report by a customer who paid the standard $150 full-service tip in advance and then had his "worst experience ever," with a provider who wouldn't even engage in conversation and required more money for sexual intercourse. Fortunately, he at least recovered $50 of his pay-in-advance tip, but that usually doesn't happen.
In my 10 plus years, this was the worst experience ever. I go in and pay the HF and Kayla comes in. Stand-offish, but I just figure she might be that way because she doesn't know me so I just go with it. She asks me if I want full service and tells me her rate is $300 so I say I'm leaving. She tells me to wait and asks how much I have. I honestly say $150 and she says okay. Next she says payment upfront and I stupidly comply. She tells me to wait and leaves the room. She comes back in her panties and I must say she does have a nice thick ass. She pours some baby oil on my back and starts a "massage" which is just running her hands up and down my back. I try to make conversation, but I just get one word replies. I turn over and she starts massaging junior. After a while of her HJ I ask for a condom so we can move on and at this point she tells me that $150 only gets me a HJ and blowjob. WTF! After arguing for a bit, the most she offers to give me back is $50 since I received her massage and HJ. I figure fuck it, I'll just take the HJ and blowjob. She continues her HJ and after a while I ask about the blowjob. She says she has to get a condom and leaves the room. WTF! She comes back, looks at her phone and asks me if I cum fast because there's a 45 minute time limit. WTF! I ask for the $50 back and leave without another word. Not sure if Hanabi is aware or cares about this type of behavior since I didn't see her when I was leaving. Like I said, shittiest experience in 10 plus years. All the signs were there telling me to walk, but I was just too stupid to heed them. A good reminder to listen to your instincts and not to pay upfront.
How do I tell the difference. I find both advertise in the same BP and CL section, many offer FS yet there seems to be some big differences between them. As far as I can tell AMP have store fronts and MT joints are suites in CC or other buildings.
AMP will give you 60 minutes of FS while MT will give a 40-45 minute massage with 20-15 minutes of HJ, BJ, FS or all three. Still, I'm finding that I can end the massage whenever I want and start the action. So I think I could get 60 minutes and skip the massage if I wanted to do so. Only one I went to was strictly HJ only, no FS all the others had a FS option.
At an AMP I have been quoted the price and asked to pay upfront. At an MT joint price is never mentioned and I just tip according to what services I got and how good the service was. The girls at AMPs tend to be much hotter while the girls at MT joints are pretty and sometimes a bit older. Still I've seen some very hot ones so maybe it's not fair to say AMP girls are hotter. MT are notorious for using fake photos, AMPs (the good ones) have legitimate photos.
It's confusing for a newbie to tell the difference, especially if someone just wants a BJ at an AMP it would be a waste of an hour for the girl, but at the MT joint she will do it and get a bigger tip after the massage. Also the MT girls tend to not be pros or as skilled as AMP girls but again I met some very skilled MT girls so it may not be a fair comparison.
Are these fair differences? Personally, I like the MT places but every time I try a new one I'm confused as to which one it is, AMP or MT?Any place that has the words "massage" is a MT and "relaxation" is AMP. At a AMP you know everything is on the menu(shower can vary), at a MT it can vary. A MT could be strictly legit, HJ only, FS it all depends what they willing to do. Even though the Chinese MTs have a reputation on offering everything it may not always be true so make sure to do your research. Dealing with MTs is a game, so you have to be cautious and be prepared to get burned. Last note a AMP can be located in anywhere, that's why it's important to look at the name.
Any place that has the words "massage" is a MT and "relaxation" is AMP. At a AMP you know everything is on the menu(shower can vary), at a MT it can vary. A MT could be strictly legit, HJ only, FS it all depends what they willing to do. Even though the Chinese MTs have a reputation on offering everything it may not always be true so make sure to do your research. Dealing with MTs is a game, so you have to be cautious and be prepared to get burned. Last note a AMP can be located in anywhere, that's why it's important to look at the name.Thank you, that makes perfect sense. I've seen the relaxation tag and you're absolutely correct in its use. Thank you for replying it's greatly appreciated.
Member #5810
11-13-16, 21:45
How do I tell the difference. I find both advertise in the same BP and CL section, many offer FS yet there seems to be some big differences between them. As far as I can tell AMP have store fronts and MT joints are suites in CC or other buildings.
AMP will give you 60 minutes of FS while MT will give a 40-45 minute massage with 20-15 minutes of HJ, BJ, FS or all three. Still, I'm finding that I can end the massage whenever I want and start the action. So I think I could get 60 minutes and skip the massage if I wanted to do so. Only one I went to was strictly HJ only, no FS all the others had a FS option.
At an AMP I have been quoted the price and asked to pay upfront. At an MT joint price is never mentioned and I just tip according to what services I got and how good the service was. The girls at AMPs tend to be much hotter while the girls at MT joints are pretty and sometimes a bit older. Still I've seen some very hot ones so maybe it's not fair to say AMP girls are hotter. MT are notorious for using fake photos, AMPs (the good ones) have legitimate photos.
It's confusing for a newbie to tell the difference, especially if someone just wants a BJ at an AMP it would be a waste of an hour for the girl, but at the MT joint she will do it and get a bigger tip after the massage. Also the MT girls tend to not be pros or as skilled as AMP girls but again I met some very skilled MT girls so it may not be a fair comparison.
Are these fair differences? Personally, I like the MT places but every time I try a new one I'm confused as to which one it is, AMP or MT?Well said. For me, I look at it this way. I go to an AMP for sex with some massage thrown in. I go to an MT place if I'm mainly looking for a decent massage with MAYBE some release after. What I kinda don't like about MT places is the bait and switching and also the? If there's HE or not. IMHO AMP places specialize in one thing with massage as a time filler.
Here's one more pay-in-advance tragedy. Below is a recent report by a customer who paid the standard $150 full-service tip in advance and then had his "worst experience ever," with a provider who wouldn't even engage in conversation and required more money for sexual intercourse. Fortunately, he at least recovered $50 of his pay-in-advance tip, but that usually doesn't happen.Provider wants you to pay the tip in advance? Read this first (report below). Customer pays a $160 tip (which would usually cover full service) in advance, and receives only a "lame" handjob for his money.
A few seconds later in walks an older woman who clearly ain't Peach so I say you're not Peach the girl in the ad and she says I'm Peach! I say maybe but you are not the one in the ad! She says quiet and proceeds with the lamest one minute massage and it all goes downhill from here! She says you want everything and I was going to decline but I thought she looked pleasant enough so reluctantly said yeah I guess. Then she says tip please. So being the idiot I am I give her dollar forty and she says twenty more I tell her WTF you're not even the girl in the ad as she milked twenty more! She takes off her dress and starts stroking my cock w / lube and I say I can do that at home and already I can see that this ain't going to work! She says quiet you talk too much!! I say you junk! WTF suck my cock already and she acts like she don't understand and keeps up the lame HJ! Tell her you ripoff and use fake pictures in ad so she says everybody does!! I said Fuckit I'm out of here you're lame!! YMMV but if it was this woman's picture in the ad would'nt have gone in the first place!! NO CC 2301 for me! Live and Learn! Monger On!
I've been reading this forum through and have not seen this addressed and figured I'd just ask. My biggest fear as I'm assuming with most first timers is getting a visit from Uncle LEO in the middle of the magic. I'm really on the edge of taking the plunge and going to an AMP but this fear still holds me back. My question to you more experienced mongers is, "do AMP's try to protect their customers?" For example would they warn if uncle LEO shows up or what measures have you seen them take? Any info would help. Mahalo.
Raj!
I've been reading this forum through and have not seen this addressed and figured I'd just ask. My biggest fear as I'm assuming with most first timers is getting a visit from Uncle LEO in the middle of the magic. I'm really on the edge of taking the plunge and going to an AMP but this fear still holds me back. My question to you more experienced mongers is, "do AMP's try to protect their customers?" For example would they warn if uncle LEO shows up or what measures have you seen them take? Any info would help. Mahalo.
Raj!I can understand your concern but the info you are seeking is the same info that LE would just love to learn about. I would assume they read this forum. So--I'm not answering this.
ShootngStarBoy
11-23-16, 07:22
Not sure where to post this, but how does one become a senior member?
Six months and 25 posts without pissing me off.
A2
I am trying to RTFF to come up with which AMP's and / or girls to visit. Been to an AMP before but never on Oahu.
Happiness looks like a highly rated option, but I'm not a fan of the "walk of shame" that it takes to get in the door, and also the fact that BBFS seems to be widely offered there (not judging, just my preference).
So can anyone give me some good suggestions of a place that offers some discretion while at the same time having some hot girls?
My ideal scenario for a girl is: Race doesn't matter, prefer under 30 but a nice MILF is ok, would like some services that may borderline on PSE like BBBJ and CIM or COF. Greek is not really necessary but might partake if offered. Body type, prefer slim but with curves, whether they are man made or not.
Hopefully some of you guys can give me a few leads?
I am trying to RTFF to come up with which AMP's and / or girls to visit. Been to an AMP before but never on Oahu.
Happiness looks like a highly rated option, but I'm not a fan of the "walk of shame" that it takes to get in the door, and also the fact that BBFS seems to be widely offered there (not judging, just my preference).
So can anyone give me some good suggestions of a place that offers some discretion while at the same time having some hot girls?
My ideal scenario for a girl is: Race doesn't matter, prefer under 30 but a nice MILF is ok, would like some services that may borderline on PSE like BBBJ and CIM or COF. Greek is not really necessary but might partake if offered. Body type, prefer slim but with curves, whether they are man made or not.
Hopefully some of you guys can give me a few leads?I recommend Rejuve or Dream. Those are both CFS and some girls offer CIM you just have to search the reviews to see who does. COF is not very common from what I've seen. Greek is only offered by the older girls who are making up for their lack in the looks department from what I've seen.
Punanilicr
12-06-16, 02:07
I am trying to RTFF to come up with which AMP's and / or girls to visit. Been to an AMP before but never on Oahu.
Happiness looks like a highly rated option, but I'm not a fan of the "walk of shame" that it takes to get in the door, and also the fact that BBFS seems to be widely offered there (not judging, just my preference).
So can anyone give me some good suggestions of a place that offers some discretion while at the same time having some hot girls?
My ideal scenario for a girl is: Race doesn't matter, prefer under 30 but a nice MILF is ok, would like some services that may borderline on PSE like BBBJ and CIM or COF. Greek is not really necessary but might partake if offered. Body type, prefer slim but with curves, whether they are man made or not.
Hopefully some of you guys can give me a few leads?Although BBFS may be offered by some girls at some places, one can always ask for cfs. Chloe at Happiness may be right up your alley, as well as several girls at some other places.
If I had to choose one AMP it would be Dream Therapy. Nice discreet location, clean rooms with large mirrors.
And the girls there I would recommend are Nani (vacation), Hilton, Ellie or Luca.
I am trying to RTFF to come up with which AMP's and / or girls to visit. Been to an AMP before but never on Oahu.
Happiness looks like a highly rated option, but I'm not a fan of the "walk of shame" that it takes to get in the door, and also the fact that BBFS seems to be widely offered there (not judging, just my preference).
So can anyone give me some good suggestions of a place that offers some discretion while at the same time having some hot girls?
My ideal scenario for a girl is: Race doesn't matter, prefer under 30 but a nice MILF is ok, would like some services that may borderline on PSE like BBBJ and CIM or COF. Greek is not really necessary but might partake if offered. Body type, prefer slim but with curves, whether they are man made or not.
Hopefully some of you guys can give me a few leads?
Provider wants you to pay the tip in advance? Read this first (report below). Customer pays a $160 tip (which would usually cover full service) in advance, and receives only a "lame" handjob for his money.Here's yet another pay-in-advance tip experience (see report below). Provider receives a $140 tip in advance, and customer then receives a thirty-minute "table shower and massage" session with no sex. Customer isn't even offered a partial refund on the pay-in-advance full-service tip.
Long time lurker, first time poster. Went and sampled Lilly at Sanho (formerly Emerald). Pictures are real. But didn't get past the table shower and massage routine as Mama called time at the 30 minute mark. Needless to say I was pissed off, as I paid for an hour. Not going back.
Sorry for leaving out a few important details. Newbie mistake. I paid the $60 door fee and gave the provider $140, before services were even rendered (Lilly asked for it first). I assumed Mama would honor the hour implied by the $60 and that the provider would follow through with FS. When time was called, Lilly looked at me and said, "next time. " I was so shocked that I didn't know how to respond or what to think. She didn't even offer me a partial refund. I guess my much of what happened was my fault, for not explicitly starting how long and what I wanted. But I left angry as fix and out $200 for nothing.
ShootngStarBoy
12-17-16, 00:08
I saw star for the first time. Just noticed that there is a star next to my screen name. Not sure how it got there or what it's for, but it kind of cool. Is this sort of like the Starbucks Stars reward system?
I saw star for the first time. Just noticed that there is a star next to my screen name. Not sure how it got there or what it's for, but it kind of cool. Is this sort of like the Starbucks Stars reward system?Be proud -- a star is only awarded to exceptionally talented forum members with the highest quality posts.
Just joking!
The stars are automatically awarded, and the number of stars next to a forum member's name (one, two, three) is simply based on the quantity of posts that particular member has posted. Even one-post members have one star.
ShootngStarBoy
12-17-16, 05:39
Be proud -- a star is only awarded to exceptionally talented forum members with the highest quality posts.
Just joking!
The stars are automatically awarded, and the number of stars next to a forum member's name (one, two, three) is simply based on the quantity of posts that particular member has posted. Even one-post members have one star.Wow! I was like. Really?! That's awesome, then I knew you were kidding. That was pretty funny. Had me going for a few seconds LOL.
WaikikiBeAC
12-17-16, 10:20
NEVER PAY BEFORE. If a girl asks for the money before the deed, show her the money and put it back in your pocket. If she insists on the money before the deed. WALK AND LEAVE.
Cosmic Kid
12-18-16, 22:34
NEVER PAY BEFORE. If a girl asks for the money before the deed, show her the money and put it back in your pocket. If she insists on the money before the deed. WALK AND LEAVE.Rule #2 circumvents Rule #1: Rule #2 is NEVER SAY NEVER. Yes, in general what WaikikiBeAC says is good advice: NEVER PAY BEFORE. However, best strategy of all is to listen to your gut intuition moment by moment. For example, in this situation, usually if the provider asks for tip up front it's definitely time to walk, but not always! She may have been ripped off recently by another monger, and this is her first time with you. So she doesn't know you and has zero reason yet to trust you. And she is making sure she protects her own interests. Probably doesn't even want to ask you for upfront tip but feels she has no choice in the matter, due to her own negative past experience. And yeah, there's no way you can know what is going on in her head, but just saying, this scenario is something you need to factor in and consider during your interaction with her, while you are spur-of-the-moment deciding how to deal with her demand for tip prior to sex.
PeaceHawaii
12-20-16, 21:14
Do you know guys if I need to double my tip for 2 hours?
SamuraiChef
12-21-16, 00:01
Thank you to all the members who post on this site. Lots of good and useful information. Did some recon while driving on some of the popular places in town (as well as places to avoid). Got the parking situation down pat. Just need to do a lot more reading and homework to narrow down the choices.
Member #5325
12-25-16, 22:42
Is it typical for a provider to enter the room several minutes after appointment time?. Say 10 minutes?
ShootngStarBoy
12-27-16, 04:51
Just curious why is there no thread for Cypress? Is it because Cypress is new and has not been around long enough?
Just curious why is there no thread for Cypress? Is it because Cypress is new and has not been around long enough?Any senior member could start a Cypress thread, so apparently there just hasn't been sufficient interest so far. Cypress opened almost seven months ago, so I don't think being "new" is the reason. Maybe some mongers were turned off by the posts of a forum name that seemed to be a shill for Cypress.
Interestingly, today's Cypress advertisement is still using a photo that I identified as fake in a post over two months ago, lol. Come on, Cypress, at least replace that old fake photo with a new fake photo!
Is it typical for a provider to enter the room several minutes after appointment time?. Say 10 minutes?"Several" minutes isn't unusual, but in my opinion, a full "10 minutes" before even entering the room would really be pushing it. At 10 minutes, I would probably go out and politely inquire about the delay.
Once when a provider hadn't even entered the room for awhile, I resolved to go see what was up if the provider hadn't appeared by the time I counted to 100. Exactly when I reached "100", the provider entered the room.
Do you know guys if I need to double my tip for 2 hours?Unless you and the AMP provider agree otherwise, I think the answer would be yes.
NEVER PAY BEFORE. If a girl asks for the money before the deed, show her the money and put it back in your pocket. If she insists on the money before the deed. WALK AND LEAVE.
Here's yet another pay-in-advance tip experience (see report below). Provider receives a $140 tip in advance, and customer then receives a thirty-minute "table shower and massage" session with no sex. Customer isn't even offered a partial refund on the pay-in-advance full-service tip.Here is even more evidence against tipping a provider before service is rendered (see report below). Customer pays $150 tip to provider in advance of service. Provider then imposes a "hands off" rule in the shower; tells the customer "to hurry up" after only fifteen minutes, which was "super irritating" to the customer; and "immediately follows up with the disinfectant wipes" every time the customer licks or kisses some part of her body. Customer manages to successfully finish, but most of the session was "a crappy time" and there's "no way" he will be repeating with that provider. Customer realizes: "I no get power because I paid up front".
She asked for the dough up front. Unfortunately my little guy just took over and I broke my own cardinal rule and fell into an incoherent state of weakness. Yeah, never pay up front. She ask for extra too. Wow Lau Lau. Already $60 house and $140 tip and you like more. So I give $10 here take it. Shucks I should have ran before that. But I did and it sure enough I fell in the mercy of what she wanted. I got small kind happy when she agreed to shower with me. She had the no soap rule and plus I had to stay hands off. What kind is that? Yeah, shower when suck. She get one really nice pair of gazongas and meaty eraser nips. On the level of Donna at Tokyo Spa. Too bad she hardly let me suck um. Back in the room she started huffing that we had to hurry up because she so busy. I was like what give because we got like a good 45 minutes to go. Super irritating. She let me sample them gazongas. But everything I lick them or kiss someother part, like rim or DATY she immediately follows up with the disinfectant wipes. She CBJ but by this time I want more but I no get power because I paid up front. Oh no. I was able to get in some DATY but absolutely no DATY. No choice but to pound at this point. Kiki does have a nice soft body while it's being penetrated. Ended in Italian job and when splooge all over than Chinese peach after peeling off the cover. Great ending for a crappy time. She no understand when I explain my impression in English. So I write it now before I forget. No way I going back. Up to you if you like go. But totally not worth it given the other options out there. Whatevers.
Here is even more evidence against tipping a provider before service is rendered (see report below). Customer pays $150 tip to provider in advance of service. Provider then imposes a "hands off" rule in the shower; tells the customer "to hurry up" after only fifteen minutes, which was "super irritating" to the customer; and "immediately follows up with the disinfectant wipes" every time the customer licks or kisses some part of her body. Customer manages to successfully finish, but most of the session was "a crappy time" and there's "no way" he will be repeating with that provider. Customer realizes: "I no get power because I paid up front".Anyone still thinking about paying the provider's tip in advance? Please see this new report below. Customer accepts provider's request "for the money upfront". Provider then wastes customer's time talking "mumbo jumbo" and with an irrelevant "sales pitch" for non-sexual services. During the subsequent handjob, provider's phone rings. Provider stops the handjob, answers her phone, and then tells customer to "finish yourself".
Had very similar experience but even worse. My first mistake was she asked for the money upfront and I handed it over. We hung out on the Cousy talking hippy spirit Mumbo jumbo, then she *gave me a sales pitch* trying to get me to use her as a realtor to invest in property! We went to the shower and she started jerking me off. Then her phone rings and she literally jumped out of the shower to answer it and after a minute she said "honey, finish your self. ".
Anyone still thinking about paying the provider's tip in advance? Please see this new report below. Customer accepts provider's request "for the money upfront". Provider then wastes customer's time talking "mumbo jumbo" and with an irrelevant "sales pitch" for non-sexual services. During the subsequent handjob, provider's phone rings. Provider stops the handjob, answers her phone, and then tells customer to "finish yourself".Here's another new report on a pay-in-advance provider. This provider wanted a $200 tip "upfront". Customer then receives "rushed service," "no honoring of time," and "no DATY," and in retrospect he realizes that he "should have just split".
Decided to try some chocolate Kimberly, I should have gone home instead.
Looks: She's a very attractive black fox with tits out to there and a nice round bottom, long tight legs. I'd call it at least an 8 or 9, but YMMV.
Attitude / Personality: A mix. Friendly at the start, but then her mainland import meets the local style and here's where the red flags should have started going up and I should have just split.
Wanted payment upfront. Wanted $$ for service. No DATY. All covered. Rushed service, no honoring of time.
Service: Not worth what I paid, lets just leave it at that.
Bottom Line: Avoid. She may be hot stuff at home, but she's not going to make it here.
DaveBustards
01-18-17, 02:44
Here's another new report on a pay-in-advance provider. This provider wanted a $200 tip "upfront". Customer then receives "rushed service," "no honoring of time," and "no DATY," and in retrospect he realizes that he "should have just split".Yes I also went and seen Kimberly Hot chick. Ask for money upfront but hands down best service I've had on the island! She started with a massage first and made sure I was relaxed and lets just say we had a good time from there def will be a return customer!! Sorry your experience didn't go to well mine was amazing. Go see this chick I think the hottest black girl YeT!
Quick question. Still new to the hobby. Only been to Tokyo twice, happiness once and dream once. I haven't had the opportunity for msog yet. Do you guys ask for second pop? Do you guys tip more than the standard? Help a brother out. Thanks.
Honolulu808
01-18-17, 13:57
Quick question. Still new to the hobby. Only been to Tokyo twice, happiness once and dream once. I haven't had the opportunity for msog yet. Do you guys ask for second pop? Do you guys tip more than the standard? Help a brother out. Thanks.Most guys write about MSOG but girls usually allow that if a guy first pop is within the first few minutes of your time together with her then second pop will most likely will happen.
If you are one that likes to go the full distance for the first pop then the second is not likely to happen unless you are a regular with her or you suggest an added tip.
BallzDeep69
01-18-17, 18:47
Most guys write about MSOG but girls usually allow that if a guy first pop is within the first few minutes of your time together with her then second pop will most likely will happen.
If you are one that likes to go the full distance for the first pop then the second is not likely to happen unless you are a regular with her or you suggest an added tip.Your right, if you pop early some will let you pop again. One time I popped in the shower with Nara and then she let me pop again in the room. If I popped later in the hr I wouldn't have gotten a second pop.
Sorry your experience didn't go to well mine was amazing.Please carefully read my post to which you replied. It wasn't my bad experience, it was the bad experience of another customer. The point was that (1) after the "upfront" tip of $200 had been paid to the provider, the balance of power shifted completely to the provider, she had total control over the session, and she could treat the customer any way she wanted, and (2) the customer was out the full amount of the pay-in-advance tip even though he received "rushed service," "no honoring of time," and "no DATY". Although sometimes advance payment of the tip doesn't cause a problem, often it does as shown by the many messages I've posted about that topic in this thread.
Slamming U
01-18-17, 21:40
Your right, if you pop early some will let you pop again. One time I popped in the shower with Nara and then she let me pop again in the room. If I popped later in the hr I wouldn't have gotten a second pop.I totally know what you mean. I too once popped in the shower and the provider and I talked and cuddled then we went back at it again.
Yes I also went and seen Kimberly Hot chick. Ask for money upfront but hands down best service I've had on the island! She started with a massage first and made sure I was relaxed and lets just say we had a good time from there def will be a return customer!! Sorry your experience didn't go to well mine was amazing. Go see this chick I think the hottest black girl YeT!Even with her rules? No touching the V, No kissing, All covered (At Golden Spa, mind you), Cum and done unless you pay extra.
From what I've read, every other provider there would have given me better service then her. Kimberly said she's only here a few weeks, personally I'm going to wait till she's gone before ever trying there again.
Member #5873
01-23-17, 20:33
Greetings I am new to the AMP scene and was hoping I can seek some wisdom.
Does anyone happen to know any knowledge of areas with fairly young providers (most reviews I seen the providers are in their 30 to 40).
What is your opinion on entering, are most areas discreet or are they really obvious and easy to be seen.
I believe hula has Caucasian providers but does anyone know of other locations that have non asian (just curious).
Any info would be appreciated. Please feel free to PM me as well.
Stay safe everyone.
Greetings I am new to the AMP scene and was hoping I can seek some wisdom.
Does anyone happen to know any knowledge of areas with fairly young providers (most reviews I seen the providers are in their 30 to 40).
What is your opinion on entering, are most areas discreet or are they really obvious and easy to be seen.
I believe hula has Caucasian providers but does anyone know of other locations that have non asian (just curious).
Any info would be appreciated. Please feel free to PM me as well.
Stay safe everyone.Try out Dream therapy. Get one hottie named Leia. Hot and young my bruddah and that place dream discreet and that place is clean and classy looking.
Try Dream Therapy. See Leia (Caucasian), Kana (mixed) or Hollie (mixed). Dream is located in Kukui Plaza near Fort Street Mall. Downtown. Discreet two door system. PM for more info.
Greetings I am new to the AMP scene and was hoping I can seek some wisdom.
Does anyone happen to know any knowledge of areas with fairly young providers (most reviews I seen the providers are in their 30 to 40).
What is your opinion on entering, are most areas discreet or are they really obvious and easy to be seen.
I believe hula has Caucasian providers but does anyone know of other locations that have non asian (just curious).
Any info would be appreciated. Please feel free to PM me as well.
Stay safe everyone.
Try Dream Therapy. See Leia (Caucasian), Kana (mixed) or Hollie (mixed). Dream is located in Kukui Plaza near Fort Street Mall. Downtown. Discreet two door system. PM for more info.Does anyone have the number of Dream Therapy? I tried to goggle it and came up with nothing.
Does anyone have the number of Dream Therapy? I tried to goggle it and came up with nothing.Here you go:
http://honolulu.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/dream-girl-4-u-downtown-delight-luxurious-upscale-atmosphere-downtown-delight/6856156
(By the way, member since 2009, but no provider reviews?)
Please carefully read my post to which you replied. It wasn't my bad experience, it was the bad experience of another customer. The point was that (1) after the "upfront" tip of $200 had been paid to the provider, the balance of power shifted completely to the provider, she had total control over the session, and she could treat the customer any way she wanted, and (2) the customer was out the full amount of the pay-in-advance tip even though he received "rushed service," "no honoring of time," and "no DATY". Although sometimes advance payment of the tip doesn't cause a problem, often it does as shown by the many messages I've posted about that topic in this thread.Here's another recent example of an "upfront" tip experience (report below). Provider requests and receives the tip "upfront". She then gives the customer a "cold and apathetic" session, so much so that the customer will not visit her again even though physically she's "so young and hot".
My pal and I happened to go to CC this past Friday for work. He pointed Mariko out to me, who happened to walk out of an elevator. Young Chinese girl. T-shirt she wore was not form-fitting and rather blousy, so couldn't really judge boob size. Black shorts showed slim legs and floral slippers completed her outfit. My buddy assured me her boobs are large and real. He told me his time with her was cold and apathetic (by her). She asked for both house fee, and then service fee, upfront. He paid both since she was so young and hot. He would not repeat, he said.
Member #5873
01-30-17, 15:24
Greetings and I was hoping I can seek some advice.
When trying to schedule an appointment how early in advance would one book if they want to guarantee that they will get a session with the provider they want. Like a week in advance, a few days etc.
Thank you and stay safe everyone.
It depends on which MP you call. Each one is different and it may even vary with the mama working. I know that if you make an appointment in advance and don't show your number goes on a shit list. Best to call and cancel with sufficient time when canceling an appointment. It's the right thing to do!
Greetings and I was hoping I can seek some advice.
When trying to schedule an appointment how early in advance would one book if they want to guarantee that they will get a session with the provider they want. Like a week in advance, a few days etc.
Thank you and stay safe everyone.
Greetings and I was hoping I can seek some advice.
When trying to schedule an appointment how early in advance would one book if they want to guarantee that they will get a session with the provider they want. Like a week in advance, a few days etc.
Thank you and stay safe everyone.Depends when you're trying to schedule for. Personally I only call the same day, and with 3 or 4 hours notice. 80% of the time the girl is available, and she is there when I come.
Even been offered the infamous Dallas when a girl I wanted wasn't available for the time I wanted, not no thanks. I had her yesterday. Hehehee.
WaikikiBeAC
02-06-17, 17:08
Rule #2. Don't believe the ads. Every girl promises you the world before you meet them and she is just trying to get you to meet up. Once you meet her then she hopes you'll say screw it and just give her money because you drove here and met up with her. Assume the pics are fake or 10 years old and 20 pounds ago. Assume the promises in ad are lies and promises on the phone are lies.
ShootngStarBoy
02-10-17, 17:08
Why is there no Black Girls in the 808 thread?
Here's another recent example of an "upfront" tip experience (report below). Provider requests and receives the tip "upfront". She then gives the customer a "cold and apathetic" session, so much so that the customer will not visit her again even though physically she's "so young and hot".... and here is yet another pay-in-advance tip outcome (report below). Customer agrees to provider's "payment before the deed" request, against his better judgment. The provider then prevents DATY with pre-application of lube, gives the customer a "CBJ for not even a minute," refuses kissing, and refuses doggy-style sex. At least she did provide sexual intercourse, which (as shown by some prior reports) occasionally pay-in-advance customers don't even receive.
Well, she asked for payment before the deed. I should have listen to my sense but the little head took over so I gave in. She put lube in her nani so I know DATY is not on the menu. Put a hat on and gave me CBJ for not even a minute. Then she rode me CG then Mish till popped. I asked for a DS but denied. Tried kissing Denied. Felt like she just meant business. I should have just tried Rejuve instead but I don't feel like driving. Oh well. Don't say I didn't warn you fellow mongers.
Just wondering why there aren't any threads on smile spa. Is something wrong with that place? Lmk thinking about Toftt.
Just wondering why there aren't any threads on smile spa. Is something wrong with that place? Lmk thinking about Toftt.You will have to dig deep for reviews. The place was pretty popular when it first opened many years ago (early 2000's), the more recent (been at least a year, maybe more, since I've seen one) reports have been sporadic and consistently bad, IIRC.
TOFTT and report back!
BJ.
Just wondering why there aren't any threads on smile spa. Is something wrong with that place? Lmk thinking about Toftt.I've been to Smile Spa twice. The first time over a year ago, the second time this past December. Facility is actually very nice and in good condition, though it seemed empty both times I went. It is relatively discreet compared to other popular places. My first experience there was actually pretty good. Got a medium massage w / TS, CBJ, CFS, and MSOG with Penny. Still was short by 10 minutes or so, but I thought it was a good first AMP experience. I decided to go a second time this past December despite a lack of recent posts, though I was really disappointed. I can't recall who I saw (diff provider for sure), she gave me what felt like 5 seconds of light / non-existent massage and went straight to HJ / BBBJ. Moved on to a little CFS, but she really seemed to be in a rush for some reason despite the place being empty. No MSOG or TS like my first experience, but again it was a different provider so YMMV? Was out of there in less than 20 minutes the second time around, so I'm not too sure if I'll ever come back. Total damage both times was. 5 HF +$. 5 Tip.
CoffeeLatte
03-13-17, 04:35
Anyone knows a good replacement for Nara? She is leaving for vacation soon. Much mahalo.
CoffeeLatte
03-13-17, 04:37
Linda from Rejuve is leaving for vacation. Anyone knows a good replacement for Linda? Much mahalo.
Why is there no Black Girls in the 808 thread?LOL good question SSB. I don't think there are too many of them in Hawaii. I was lucky that I got one many moons ago in Waikiki. She was a hooker, and her name was Chocolate. (I know, not the most original.) I was so nervous, even though she would always befriend me and my hotel coworkers, I finally took the plunge and secretly had her in a hotel room. I couldn't cum in various positions because of the cover, but way back then, I always assumed that was the norm. She continued with HJ & CBJ until completion, then said yay! I wasnt about to stop until I made you cum. Now, torture! She went back down on me and it was super sore. I had to push her head off to stop. Even to this day, I've always wondered how them porn dudes could stay rock hard even after the deed. They must take something for sure.
Damn those were the days.
YongerMonger
03-15-17, 17:18
Linda from Rejuve is leaving for vacation. Anyone knows a good replacement for Linda? Much mahalo.Minnie is a good replacement for Linda. She gets here this weekend. Definitely been anxiously waiting her return. She is delicious man. Super cute and bubbly.
WaikikiBeAC
05-23-17, 20:34
Never be afraid to walk out. If you get a bad feeling when you meet the girl or your not attracted to her, don't be afraid to walk out and get your HF back.
Never be afraid to walk out. If you get a bad feeling when you meet the girl or your not attracted to her, don't be afraid to walk out and get your HF back.When I first started mongering many moons ago, I often times took what was available at the time. Big mistake, some of the ones I pounded look pretty bad (buck teeth, Old bags, pot belly, fat ones, skinny and bony kind). In the end, it was just a hole. Nowadays, there are massage parlors all over town and the selection is much better. I've walked into a dark room and the hole comes in, I take a good look in the dim light and then I tell 'them, Is there somebody else? If there is no other replacement, I walk out and tell the mama, that I want my money back. That is the way to go.
Walk out if they don't look good because it is your hard earned money. All they do is lie back and moan for easy money. Remember, I is their job to make you happy. They are only actors and could care less about you. If they ugly hard to cum. The money you pay them can buy a lot of lunches for yourself. I've spent over 100 k doing this hobby and its not cheap. However, it may be cheaper than being married and all that drama.
Never be afraid to walk out. If you get a bad feeling when you meet the girl or your not attracted to her, don't be afraid to walk out and get your HF back.When I first started mongering many moons ago, I often times took what was available at the time. Big mistake, some of the ones I pounded look pretty bad (buck teeth, Old bags, pot belly, fat ones, skinny and bony kind). In the end, it was just a hole. Nowadays, there are massage parlors all over town and the selection is much better. I've walked into a dark room and the hole comes in, I take a good look in the dim light and then I tell 'them, Is there somebody else? If there is no other replacement, I walk out and tell the mama, that I want my money back. That is the way to go.
Walk out if they don't look good because it is your hard earned money. All they do is lie back and moan for easy money. Remember, I is their job to make you happy. They are only actors and could care less about you. If they ugly hard to cum. The money you pay them can buy a lot of lunches for yourself. I've spent over 100 k doing this hobby and its not cheap. However, it may be cheaper than being married and all that drama.
WaikikiBeAC
06-08-17, 06:59
Tell her what you want and what you want her to do. Worse thing she will do is say no or sorry can't do that. But you got to ask and tell her what you want, otherwise she will go into her routine and do what she wants, not necessarily what you want. Take control and be a man.
1) never ever slap a fellow monger in the ass. You may get lickings.
2) if you decide to make trouble, their help is just a phone call away.
3) most non Asian girls are almost always pimped and they can get their fast.
4) don't get suckered into tipping a provider of you don't want to. $50 house and $150 provider is fine. You don't have to tip anymore.
Eisenhower
06-14-17, 02:11
AMP Tips And Guidelines
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11) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing.
So I see the original post is from 2011 how has the market price fared, is it still around the same price. This is so much cheaper than places in Tokyo.
1) never ever slap a fellow monger in the ass. You may get lickings.LOL!! True that! Guarans scrap.
So I see the original post is from 2011 how has the market price fared, is it still around the same price. This is so much cheaper than places in Tokyo.Actually, the real "original post" is even older. The first post in this thread, from 2011, was plagiarized (by a subsequently banned member) from the real original post in another thread in 2005.
The advice "I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying" isn't really applicable to modern-day Honolulu, where the standard tip for a satisfactory full-service AMP session is commonly $150 (although some guys pay $140 at places where the house fee is $60 instead of $50).
TomAssCan9
06-16-17, 02:31
Any recommendation who to see? I have on my list Dallas, Sugar, Tera, Yuna, Hilton so far. Any suggestion on who should be top priority. Thus list is based on what I've read on the website. Thanks in advance!
DrMajikLuv69
06-16-17, 15:34
Any recommendation who to see? I have on my list Dallas, Sugar, Tera, Yuna, Hilton so far. Any suggestion on who should be top priority. Thus list is based on what I've read on the website. Thanks in advance!Those are all great choices. There are 2 Yuna. One Yuna at Happiness and now a new Yuna at Kison. There are also I think 3 Sugars. One Sugar at Happiness. Another Sugar at Tokyo Spa and a third Sugar at Hula Girl. Although IMHO I may be wrong if there is a third Sugar at Hula Girls. Perhaps if there is another senior monger with some wisdom they could share their knowledge about the girls?
Been reading reviews and have been trying to see Connie at Cypress. Mama always says she's not there. What hours do popular providers typically work? I've been making attempts past 10 pm to avoid seeing anyone I may know. Should I just walk in and see if she's there? Do mama-sans usually screen calls? If I can't get Connie I was thinking either Suji of Kison or Muni of Rejuve. Any suggestions?
Been reading reviews and have been trying to see Connie at Cypress. Mama always says she's not there. What hours do popular providers typically work? I've been making attempts past 10 pm to avoid seeing anyone I may know. Should I just walk in and see if she's there? Do mama-sans usually screen calls? If I can't get Connie I was thinking either Suji of Kison or Muni of Rejuve. Any suggestions?I've seen Connie about 5 times. I've seen Muni twice but haven't seen suji yet. Connie is pretty but better looking when I first saw her at happiness. Connie service is good she allows pretty much everything but I brought my own condoms for covered sex. Once I asked for a condom before penetration she grabbed one from under her towel already opened. Best to see her when she is fresh in her day not sure when that is. I've seen her once at 12 am at Cypress and she was tired but still aimed to please but I'm sure it would have been hotter if she wasn't tired. Muni loves to rim me with some sexy HJ while I'm on all fours. If you are interested in that stuff then she is for you. She too aims to please, BBBJ, 69, daty, lfk, dfk, no dato I believe and cfs. Hope that helps you.
Cosmic Kid
07-04-17, 23:32
I decided to post to this thread because was thinking, veteran mongers already set in their ways are not going listen to me no way nohow; but there's at least a fighting chance the impressionable new guys will have a more open mind on this subject. Okay, you young bloods, listen up: Maybe you think when you go AMP you want a pretty girl but I'm here to inform you this is a mistake of major proportions! What going happen, first thing you know, you get infatuated with her imperial hotness and then too much problems start sneaking up on you with that. You need to pay attention: Am I letting my ego dictate my actions? Why I'm go AMP? Only good reason for go is you need one good physical release. That's it; end of story right there! If she ugly you can maintain perspective on this primary goal a fuck of a lot easier believe you me! Okay then: Plus: If she ugly, guaranteed other guys not coming to see her because they not smart like you so she has more time on her hands and is much more likely to give you full time in the room and even overtime. And since she's not being overloaded with a line of mongers out the door waiting to spend time her, as a general rule she will probably be seriously and legitimately in need of sexual attention, gratification and satisfaction, and you will be receiving from her an authentic experience of a woman who REALLY craves, needs, and appreciates you and your stiffened, erect insemination tube. Trust me and you won't regret it, chances are you will leave your AMP session feeling on top of the world, money well spent. Hey, the provider often turns the light down in the room anyway so if it's all that important to you getting hot and bothered you can imagine her looking like whatever floats your boat and gets your engine fired up since you cannot see her most of the time during the session anyway. Approach the situation in this way; the entire AMP experience is TOTAL FANTASY any way you look at it. It is just as much a fantasy if she is off-the-charts gorgeous because you know fucking well she ain't in love with you and never going to be your woman in the first place! This is precisely why picking one ugly girl and imagining her pretty is simply a different (and far more fulfilling) way to play out your AMP fantasy! No pain, big gain.
InHawaiiMan
07-10-17, 13:50
Is there a difference? And should I always opt for a shower or table shower? Which places have which kind of shower? I've only visited tokyo spa a few times and haven't opted for a shower yet. I always feel like leaving my wallet and phone in a room I'm not in was a bad idea. Call me old fashioned I guess. How long should I spend in the shower and what goes and doesn't go in the shower? Thanks in advance for any help!
Is there a difference? And should I always opt for a shower or table shower? Which places have which kind of shower? I've only visited tokyo spa a few times and haven't opted for a shower yet. I always feel like leaving my wallet and phone in a room I'm not in was a bad idea. Call me old fashioned I guess. How long should I spend in the shower and what goes and doesn't go in the shower? Thanks in advance for any help!If you want to spend more time fucking in the room, then opt for a self-shower. But, you might prefer a table shower (which takes longer than a self-shower) where most likely the girl will hop on the table and give you a slippery body-to-body rub, as well as other things. Spend as much time on the table shower as you want but remember, the clock will be ticking toward the end of your hour, so you need to balance it out so that you will still have sufficient time back in the room. It all depends on what you prefer. You will figure out what works best for you after numerous AMP visits...so dive in there.
Many of the AMPs have a table shower; however, some of the more popular places--Dream, Rejuve, Crystal Healing, Kison--do not have one.
I have always left my wallet & cell phone in the room while in the shower during hundreds of AMP visits and have never had anything stolen.
Is there a standard fee for four hands or is that something you discuss with the provider?
Is there a standard fee for four hands or do you discuss with the provider?
Is there a standard fee for four hands or do you discuss with the provider?Two girls will normally cost double HF plus double tip. Of course if you are a regular of one or both of the girls and they like you, you might be able to negotiate a lessor tip.
UnknownHapa
07-15-17, 01:51
Hey to all my monger brethren. I wanted to post here for the new guys who may have been on the fence about what to do, or for the more experienced who want to shake their heads in disappointment. First things first, I've only been to two AMPs / providers so I am in no way an experienced monger. I just wanted to get my thoughts out while I still remember what it's like to be new to this. Next, if someone else is kind enough to chip in their two cents that overrides anything I say they will probably be right. One piece of advice I got was go to one of the more popular parlors as they will want to have your repeat business. A seasoned brother gave me a list and I opted not to heed this piece of advice. I went to another place because I knew where it was and had read a couple good reviews of a provider. I was eager to get my first visit under my belt. I went there no appointment which was another mistake, but was lucky (I think?) and the provider was available. I didn't get to see the girl til after I had showered and was waiting in the room (maybe 10-15 minutes since I got through the door). This one is probably the biggest issue: girl wanted tip up front. Now if you're like me, you will be nervous and not thinking as clearly as you should be: there is a half naked woman in front of you, after all. DO NOT give her the money. Every brother I got advice from made that very clear. But if you're like me, you do it anyway because boto knows best, am I right? She disappeared and reappeared again a couple of times and we finally got down to the deed. My mistake resulted in a mediocre lay, a provider who disappeared immediately after she cleaned me up and only popped in after almost 10 minutes to see what I was up to (it was getting dressed because I wanted to leave). It also resulted in me giving up on this hobby for about 7 months. I was convinced that this was how things were and I didn't want to part of that again. I don't want to openly disclose who and where because there may have been a reason for the lack luster service.
The good news is I did the exact opposite for my second experience. I had my eyes set on Bebe at Nirvana since before my first experience and knew that if things went bad this time I would be done with mongering. Fortunately, things couldn't have gone better. I'm so sold on this now I want to book another appointment with her or another provider at Nirvana (it's been 2 days). If you do make mistakes just know that they happen and there are quality providers out there who will give you a wonderful time. Next was don't be in a rush. Do your due diligence and if their is a provider you want to see go see them. Bebe was reportedly off island at the time of my first visit and like I said, I was eager. The added anticipation of meeting her made the experience all the better.
Okay I'll get off my soapbox now. Sorry for the long post. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions and if you want, I'll be posting about my AMP savior Bebe in the Nirvana thread later. A big mahalo for all the advice from our vets and good hunting to all you hobbyists.
... and here is yet another pay-in-advance tip outcome. Customer agrees to provider's "payment before the deed" request, against his better judgment. The provider then prevents DATY with pre-application of lube, gives the customer a "CBJ for not even a minute," refuses kissing, and refuses doggy-style sex. At least she did provide sexual intercourse, which (as shown by some prior reports) occasionally pay-in-advance customers don't even receive.Here's more helpful advice on declining to pay the tip in advance at an AMP:
When I get out of the shower, LiLi returns, still fully dressed. To collect. Wants to be prepaid - $$. Tell her "later" but I give in when she persists. Stupid me! She takes the $$ outside the room and returns. Ok. Now what do I do? Another unenthusiastic hug, some attempts at LFK (avoided), some schoolboy groping, nuzzling, anything I can think of to try to wake this dead fish up. Finally give up and just start to undress her. This is not going well at all. I'm having to work entirely too hard to be having a good time! Undressed, she doesn't look bad at all, nice firm body (not thin but solid) with B or C size boobs, large erect nipples that ask to be sucked, firm tummy with a couple of tiny tattoos. Lie on the bed to caress, touch and such and the rules continue. No kissing other that peck on cheek / neck, no DATY, no touching anywhere near her nani. All services were covered and I hate CBJ. Just isn't exciting to me.
After 20 minutes of frustration and no chemistry, I gave up. Sat up and said "that's enough". Took another quick shower, found LiLi back in her street clothes when I emerged, got dried and dressed and headed for the door with her saying "Sorry Baby" - not half as sorry as I was. I've been here for 25 minutes now and I've had 2 self showers, 2 grandmotherly hugs, a couple of pecks on the neck, 30 seconds of dry rubbing of junior, a few "I don't like that", more "NO's" than I can count all for $$ - what a deal!! Anna offered "another young girl available tomorrow night" but I only monger during the day. No offer of money back or anything else so I'm out $$.
Not again.
Moral of the story.
Never pay in advance.
Only good reason for go is you need one good physical release. That's it; end of story right there!Well said, kid, well said. Service over looks any day.
Esunchiste
07-20-17, 02:03
I decided to post to this thread because was thinking, veteran mongers already set in their ways are not going listen to me no way nohow; but there's at least a fighting chance the impressionable new guys will have a more open mind on this subject. Okay, you young bloods, listen up: Maybe you think when you go AMP you want a pretty girl but I'm here to inform you this is a mistake of major proportions! What going happen, first thing you know, you get infatuated with her imperial hotness and then too much problems start sneaking up on you with that. You need to pay attention: Am I letting my ego dictate my actions? Why I'm go AMP? Only good reason for go is you need one good physical release. That's it; end of story right there! If she ugly you can maintain perspective on this primary goal a fuck of a lot easier believe you me! Okay then: Plus: If she ugly, guaranteed other guys not coming to see her because they not smart like you so she has more time on her hands and is much more likely to give you full time in the room and even overtime. And since she's not being overloaded with a line of mongers out the door waiting to spend time her, as a general rule she will probably be seriously and legitimately in need of sexual attention, gratification and satisfaction, and you will be receiving from her an authentic experience of a woman who REALLY craves, needs, and appreciates you and your stiffened, erect insemination tube. Trust me and you won't regret it, chances are you will leave your AMP session feeling on top of the world, money well spent. Hey, the provider often turns the light down in the room anyway so if it's all that important to you getting hot and bothered you can imagine her looking like whatever floats your boat and gets your engine fired up since you cannot see her most of the time during the session anyway. Approach the situation in this way; the entire AMP experience is TOTAL FANTASY any way you look at it. It is just as much a fantasy if she is off-the-charts gorgeous because you know fucking well she ain't in love with you and never going to be your woman in the first place! This is precisely why picking one ugly girl and imagining her pretty is simply a different (and far more fulfilling) way to play out your AMP fantasy! No pain, big gain.This one made me laugh. But you actually make some good points! Only problem is if you're going to drop 2 bills wouldn't you rather it be on some hot piece? Hard to blow that much kala on one ugly chick.
Esunchiste
07-20-17, 02:06
K, this is one dumb question but I'm going to ask anyway bc I don't go AMP.
If you guys see one independent girl (or even at AMP I guess), do they always supply the rubbers?
I'm assuming they do, but just wondering. Thinking of trying the FS game.
K, this is one dumb question but I'm going to ask anyway bc I don't go AMP.
If you guys see one independent girl (or even at AMP I guess), do they always supply the rubbers?
I'm assuming they do, but just wondering. Thinking of trying the FS game.Cover to provider is gun to soldier?
Well. If you use 10 covers they will not charge more.
Even BBFS girls would have covers.
Hey to all my monger brethren. I wanted to post here for the new guys who may have been on the fence about what to do, or for the more experienced who want to shake their heads in disappointment. First things first, I've only been to two AMPs / providers so I am in no way an experienced monger. I just wanted to get my thoughts out while I still remember what it's like to be new to this. Next, if someone else is kind enough to chip in their two cents that overrides anything I say they will probably be right. One piece of advice I got was go to one of the more popular parlors as they will want to have your repeat business. A seasoned brother gave me a list and I opted not to heed this piece of advice. I went to another place because I knew where it was and had read a couple good reviews of a provider. I was eager to get my first visit under my belt. I went there no appointment which was another mistake, but was lucky (I think?) and the provider was available. I didn't get to see the girl til after I had showered and was waiting in the room (maybe 10-15 minutes since I got through the door). This one is probably the biggest issue: girl wanted tip up front. Now if you're like me, you will be nervous and not thinking as clearly as you should be: there is a half naked woman in front of you, after all. DO NOT give her the money. Every brother I got advice from made that very clear. But if you're like me, you do it anyway because boto knows best, am I right? She disappeared and reappeared again a couple of times and we finally got down to the deed. My mistake resulted in a mediocre lay, a provider who disappeared immediately after she cleaned me up and only popped in after almost 10 minutes to see what I was up to (it was getting dressed because I wanted to leave). It also resulted in me giving up on this hobby for about 7 months. I was convinced that this was how things were and I didn't want to part of that again. I don't want to openly disclose who and where because there may have been a reason for the lack luster service.
The good news is I did the exact opposite for my second experience. I had my eyes set on Bebe at Nirvana since before my first experience and knew that if things went bad this time I would be done with mongering. Fortunately, things couldn't have gone better. I'm so sold on this now I want to book another appointment with her or another provider at Nirvana (it's been 2 days). If you do make mistakes just know that they happen and there are quality providers out there who will give you a wonderful time. Next was don't be in a rush. Do your due diligence and if their is a provider you want to see go see them. Bebe was reportedly off island at the time of my first visit and like I said, I was eager. The added anticipation of meeting her made the experience all the better.
Okay I'll get off my soapbox now. Sorry for the long post. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions and if you want, I'll be posting about my AMP savior Bebe in the Nirvana thread later. A big mahalo for all the advice from our vets and good hunting to all you hobbyists.I have a totally different perspective on this. I just choose the hottest girl available in the line up if I go without an appointment. I have had fantastic times with the hottest girls and disappointing times with the not so hot ones. The young hot girls tend to have tighter, wetter and more active pussies then the not so young and hot girls. I like the way the young tight girls can make their pussies throb on your dick. I rarely get that from older softies.
K, this is one dumb question but I'm going to ask anyway bc I don't go AMP.
If you guys see one independent girl (or even at AMP I guess), do they always supply the rubbers?
I'm assuming they do, but just wondering. Thinking of trying the FS game.I've never been with a provider who didn't have a supply of covers. But, some use the thick ones or don't have magnum sizes, so you may want to bring your own just in case.
Does the session finish when I cum? Or am I allowed to keep going? Cum as many times as I want? I don't want it to only last 5 min. Do I get a whole hour?
Does the session finish when I cum? Or am I allowed to keep going? Cum as many times as I want? I don't want it to only last 5 min. Do I get a whole hour?YMMV. Most are 1 and done. If you want 2nd pop, better yo ask provider first.
Cosmic Kid
07-20-17, 21:59
I've never been with a provider who didn't have a supply of covers. But, some use the thick ones or don't have magnum sizes, so you may want to bring your own just in case.A while back, I was in the room with a provider, and I slip on an Okamoto. 02 and she goes,"Wow, thin yeah? I never see this kind before!
YMMV. Most are 1 and done. If you want 2nd pop, better yo ask provider first.How many guys here, especially older than 40 years old, can pop 2 or more times in 50 minutes.
Really? It doesn't take one day to make penis erect again?
Cosmic Kid
07-21-17, 19:31
This one made me laugh. But you actually make some good points! Only problem is if you're going to drop 2 bills wouldn't you rather it be on some hot piece? Hard to blow that much kala on one ugly chick.Actually, I don't disagree with you. However, I like to mess around with viewing situations from unique, even crazy perspectives, because in general, not only in mongering, this gives a guy more flexibility and choices, instead of being trapped in a boring mental rut all the time where you've got only one single way of dealing with life.
I'll be visiting from Maui for a few days next week. I'm an AMP newbie and looking for a little guidance / suggestions on quality providers. While I'm willing to forego some looks versus attitude and overall service, any recommendations? Would it be best to stick to the top names like Rejuve, Happiness? Or possibly go the independent route? BBFS is not a requirement I'm kinda on the fence with that one and typically prefer covered. The days I have available will be Monday evening and most of Tuesday / Wednesday. Are AMP's typically busy these days? Is prebooking sessions recommend? Mahalo for any suggestions my braddahs.
I'll be visiting from Maui for a few days next week. I'm an AMP newbie and looking for a little guidance / suggestions on quality providers. While I'm willing to forego some looks versus attitude and overall service, any recommendations? Would it be best to stick to the top names like Rejuve, Happiness? Or possibly go the independent route? BBFS is not a requirement I'm kinda on the fence with that one and typically prefer covered. The days I have available will be Monday evening and most of Tuesday / Wednesday. Are AMP's typically busy these days? Is prebooking sessions recommend? Mahalo for any suggestions my braddahs.Now one of honolulu top3 AMPs was arrested.
In this messy situation you had better think of what AMP will not reject you (as you said you are new to this hobby and they will not recognize you).
In this messy situation you had better think of what AMP will not reject you (as you said you are new to this hobby and they will not recognize you).This is my first post, so hello to all. I am active in SF and now occasionally started to come to H on business. I'm just curious, how would they reject you here? In SF, the best scene is at AAMPs, which require appointments. You schedule ahead of time, and unknown numbers are screened by the org. I haven't hobbied here yet, but AMPs here are usually walk-in, no?
Also, I just thought I'd mention that this board seems great (members and content wise). Reminds me of RB back in the day. So, thanks for that. In SF, we don't have any good forums anymore. RB, AF, and FBSA have all shut down. We only have one board there now that is worthless, even for entertainment.
RiverRat22
08-12-17, 06:39
A while back, I was in the room with a provider, and I slip on an Okamoto. 02 and she goes,"Wow, thin yeah? I never see this kind before!You know anywhere that sells the Okamoto XL? They are thinner latex with no latex smell and don't break as easy as polyurethane. They feel actually better than Trojan Supra polyurethane. Some pros won't let you at them with polyurethane. If you are big and want to pound, it will break easy.
Now one of honolulu top3 AMPs was arrested.
In this messy situation you had better think of what AMP will not reject you (as you said you are new to this hobby and they will not recognize you).+69. With the current crackdown on AMPs in Honolulu, you may have a hard time getting the service you desire. Providers will be very suspicious of new clientele, especially if you ask for them by name. You can try the tried and true indies, but may get the same suspicious reaction. Or perhaps you can go the MT with HE route. The Chinese MTs are more apt to take new customers.
With Kaneshiro on his witch hunt, it is almost guaranteed there will be more raids this weekend, but will they be AMPs or gambling houses? He's making his bones now because the houses will be in full swing in a few weeks. If he did it at that time, there would be hell to pay. There are too many connected people involved with the houses. He may take a smaller scale house down during football season. As a token gesture to the public.
You know anywhere that sells the Okamoto XL? They are thinner latex with no latex smell and don't break as easy as polyurethane. They feel actually better than Trojan Supra polyurethane. Some pros won't let you at them with polyurethane. If you are big and want to pound, it will break easy.Some sells it.
Of course not for my tiny cute ones that AMP girls really love.
You know anywhere that sells the Okamoto XL? They are thinner latex with no latex smell and don't break as easy as polyurethane. They feel actually better than Trojan Supra polyurethane. Some pros won't let you at them with polyurethane. If you are big and want to pound, it will break easy.Not sure if they're Okamotos, but Nijiya Market (the Japanese grocery store off of Ala Moana and Piikoi where Eggs and Things is) has a selection of Japanese condoms. They're the thin ones. Amazon might be cheaper but if you absolutely, positively need to smash now, there you go.
Not sure if they're Okamotos, but Nijiya Market (the Japanese grocery store off of Ala Moana and Piikoi where Eggs and Things is) has a selection of Japanese condoms. They're the thin ones. Amazon might be cheaper but if you absolutely, positively need to smash now, there you go.They sell Okamotos but its the 004, I don't recall seeing any other Okamoto selections. I tried them awhile back on a whim but if you got a bigger tool they are an absolute pain in the ass to get on. Literally spent 10-12 minutes of intense concentration during a session with Chloe awhile back just trying to get it over the head, I was determined because I was curious of the thinness. Hands off to her for not quitting, she finally manages to get the thing on and it feels way too snug, thinness was legit though. I might have to check out the bigger ones.
Not sure if they're Okamotos, but Nijiya Market (the Japanese grocery store off of Ala Moana and Piikoi where Eggs and Things is) has a selection of Japanese condoms. They're the thin ones. Amazon might be cheaper but if you absolutely, positively need to smash now, there you go.I can confirm that Nijiya Market sells Okamotos. Not sure about the pricing.
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Not sure if they're Okamotos, but Nijiya Market (the Japanese grocery store off of Ala Moana and Piikoi where Eggs and Things is) has a selection of Japanese condoms. They're the thin ones. Amazon might be cheaper but if you absolutely, positively need to smash now, there you go.There's a Nijiya Market close to Kings Massage on University.
Member #5873
08-22-17, 17:44
Greetings, I was hoping I can seek some guidance.
I was planning to come over here around early September for vacation but looking around the recent news about raids made me a little hesitant.
Last time I came here it felt pretty safe but I was wondering are they still going to crackdown around September. Are there any good UTR massage areas out there.
My other option was to try outcall massages since I seen some ads like this.
http://honolulu.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/overly-gorgeous-petite-asian-g0ddess/7429233
The only thing is that I don't see much reviews about these ads. Maybe these are TGTBT bait switch or LEO.
If anyone is able to provide some insight on this it would be greatly appreciated.
If anyone knows of any safe or independent massage areas or providers feel free to PM me. As for now I'll keep looking through the forums.
Thank you and stay safe everone.
Honolulu Chas
08-22-17, 18:37
Greetings, I was hoping I can seek some guidance. I was planning to come over here around early September for vacation but looking around the recent news about raids made me a little hesitant. Last time I came here it felt pretty safe but I was wondering are they still going to crackdown around September. Are there any good UTR massage areas out there. My other option was to try outcall massages since I seen some ads like this. http://honolulu.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/overly-gorgeous-petite-asian-g0ddess/7429233 The only thing is that I don't see much reviews about these ads. Maybe these are TGTBT bait switch or LEO. If anyone is able to provide some insight on this it would be greatly appreciated. If anyone knows of any safe or independent massage areas or providers feel free to PM me. As for now I'll keep looking through the forums. Thank you and stay safe everyone.It'll be difficult providing advice without knowing your provider preferences such as age, ethnicity, build, etc. We have a lot of variety here, so that'll help narrow things down.
Chas.
My other option was to try outcall massages since I seen some ads like this.
http://honolulu.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/overly-gorgeous-petite-asian-g0ddess/7429233
The only thing is that I don't see much reviews about these ads. Maybe these are TGTBT bait switch or LEO.The images of women currently being used in that advertisement are just generic internet images of Asian photo models. So regardless of what the advertisement claims, a customer likely won't be presented with a "Goddess" who's "Gorgeous".
The images of women currently being used in that advertisement are just generic internet images of Asian photo models. So regardless of what the advertisement claims, a customer likely won't be presented with a "Goddess" who's "Gorgeous".After the above-quoted message was posted yesterday, the advertiser replaced those images with generic internet images of an even more beautiful Asian photo model, who's even more unlikely to actually be working there, lol.
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