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Oldee
05-17-11, 22:49
Sometimes our opinion / how to / how not to posts clutter the other thread for those seeking straight info on specific reports. I thought we can use a thread for whatever is on your mind regarding korean bars and tactics to score sex with kb women. Discussions about how we strategize to get sex can be useful imo. I hope this thread flies so we can post stuff that may be off topic in other threads but deals with getting sex with korean bar women whatever kind of sex that may be.

Iliketowatch
05-18-11, 00:20
Smart decision Oldee. Don't want to make waves, when guys trying to fish. I though we could all coexists in one thread to keep things simple, but what do I know. I guess psychology wasn't there favorite subject. I'll be posting the thinking man view, for all you bruddahs, who like me, no possess the GQ look or the Bill Gates bank account, and need the mental edge to get whatever you are looking for. Again, it's just my viewpoint. Make use of the scroll when necessary, I will not be offended. Even if you no agree with someone's post, remember, it's works for him or her (I miss when had chicks posting) , info from the enemy, but that's another subject. Got a job for you Oldee. Ole numbers man. Take a count of the views for each KB thread. Bet you one heiny, everyone will be reading this post as much as the other two, no matter what they say. Info is info. You neva know when something might come in handy. Look forward to everybody's input.

Iliketowatch
05-18-11, 00:50
He ask me to explain my posts. I think this is what he is referring to. Oldee created this thread to free up the clutter from the KB thread. Mongers want the nuts and bolts there. Quick reference, cliff notes. The best way I can explain why I my little brain goes off in tangents, is. If you wanted to find a used car to buy. Say a BMW 330i. The BMW thread would tell you, this place has one, that place has two, this place just sold one, that place has three. Good info, but I like to take it one step further. I'll tell you, I know that car was in a major accident, no buy them, this place won't wheel and deal, you going pay top dollar, but if you go to that place, the salesguy is short on his quota this month, and he might get fired, so you can juice them down. He prime. Personally, I think, valuable info. But if you get cash to burn, you don't care about the details. So what if you get one lemon, you just buy another one. Me, I no mo that kine cash. But my chagi pulse just as much as the other guy. So you be sharp for get the edge. You can roam the bars and see the grass, but I going try give you the dirt. The underground scoop as I see it. That's why I say the barback is your best ally. Buy them on $10 drink, and when he get to know you (and trust you) , he get the insider info on the KB scene. He hears it all. He's on the frontline. Just no get loose lips and ship his ship. Keep it on the low and you'll hear what most guys don't hear. So if this is what turns you on, this is the thread we'll try to uncover the dirt on the girls and their motives. The infamous deep throat (not that one you perv).

Oldee
05-18-11, 01:48
No shame, anykine posts welcome. Lets help each other get more pussy, spend less money, AND laugh at ourselves too. I guess this the orphan thread regarding the kbars, LOL. Thanks ILTW, I think its so fitting that you were the first to reply. BTW, I put discussions at the end of title thread so nothing off topic as long as remotely dealing with kbars, hehe. Even if you just like read stuff, would be good to know and what kind. Come say Hello, bros, I lonely, LOL.

Dragons76
05-18-11, 03:58
No shame, anykine posts welcome. Lets help each other get more pussy, spend less money, AND laugh at ourselves too. I guess this the orphan thread regarding the kbars, LOL. Thanks ILTW, I think its so fitting that you were the first to reply. BTW, I put discussions at the end of title thread so nothing off topic as long as remotely dealing with kbars, hehe. Even if you just like read stuff, would be good to know and what kind. Come say Hello, bros, I lonely, LOL.Haha sorry I've been extremely busy with work! Haha maybe I going out too much to the Kbars, Vbars, Jbars, Sports Bars, night clubs and AMPs also. I realized that I do need sleep sometime and sometimes I just too drunk and lazy to make sense of what I post. Seperating opinions and ideas on "how to" or "what to" or "just talking" about stuff to help increase the rate or chance of getting play I think is good.

Uki Eater
05-18-11, 04:25
No shame, anykine posts welcome. Lets help each other get more pussy, spend less money, AND laugh at ourselves too. I guess this the orphan thread regarding the kbars, LOL. Thanks ILTW, I think its so fitting that you were the first to reply. BTW, I put discussions at the end of title thread so nothing off topic as long as remotely dealing with kbars, hehe. Even if you just like read stuff, would be good to know and what kind. Come say Hello, bros, I lonely, LOL.Hehe gosh Oldee I feel like mainly you and ILTW will be mainly posting on this thread. I dunno why others don't want to share their intellect. I guess some feel shame to write something that may sound stupid. Especially considering the fact that many people will be reading it. Or, intimadated that someone will write a negative reply on what was written. Oh, plus the women from the bars, AMPs and MT read to.

Oldee
05-18-11, 05:13
Hehe gosh Oldee I feel like mainly you and ILTW will be mainly posting on this thread. I dunno why others don't want to share their intellect. I guess some feel shame to write something that may sound stupid. Especially considering the fact that many people will be reading it. Or, intimadated that someone will write a negative reply on what was written. Oh, plus the women from the bars, AMPs and MT read to.Hey Uki, no scare them away, LOL. This is not only tactics, its discussions! You CANNOT post something stupid here, at least more stupid than me, hehe. I like hear guy's thoughts on things whatevas that is. EVERYONE got something worth posting imo. Kicking around ideas is how we can come with solutions. I aint one to flame and neither is ILTW (beleive it or not) , I read all his posts. He may get angry at the situation but not anyone personally. We want to share and help, period. I hope guys can post here knowing their posts are appreciated, even if I disagree. The thing is, I learn FROM NEW GUYS all the time! For example, when they post how they got treated, that tells me how good or bad the kbg is in case I run into them. They may not know I learn from them but I do. We all in this together, searching for what each of us looking for in this game we play. BTW Uki, alot of our posts were off topic in the mind thread cause we not kbgirls, LOL. Except ILTW who actually is one and now I am revealing his greatest secret. He, oops, I mean she is actually one of the hottest kbgirls in hawaii! How do you think he can know so much about kbgirls. Who better to teach than a kbg on our side?

Neukd
05-18-11, 05:54
No shame, anykine posts welcome.I'm not sure if you going to wlecome most of my posts. I do lot of ramblin. And mostly stuff that onlymakes sense to me and sometimes not even to me. I don't always consciously think about what what tactic to use with which kbg. And when I try to put it in words, it usually comes out scrambled. But I hope that anything I do post is helpful to at least one guy out there.

I agree with ILTW that any info is good info, even if you don't need it it might give you the edge in getting what you want. Think of it like a penis pump for your mind. You may not need that extra but might make a difference someday.

Uki Eater
05-18-11, 05:55
Except ILTW who actually is one and now I am revealing his greatest secret. He, oops, I mean she is actually one of the hottest kbgirls in hawaii! How do you think he can know so much about kbgirls. Who better to teach than a kbg on our side?I had a feeling that ILTW stood for something. Intellectual Lady That Writes.

Oldee
05-18-11, 06:51
I had a feeling that ILTW stood for something. Intellectual Lady That Writes.Here is another surprise. I'm not old. My forum name is actually an abreviated Oahu Lecherous Dude Eyeing Everything. I'm actually ILTW's younger brother and the REAL WATCHER of the family. You see the 'ee' after the Old? Thats my eyes looking at everything. Have you noticed ILTW rarely posts late? Thats because she is working. If any of you post I will pm you the bar she works at and what price for FS.

Dragons76
05-18-11, 07:48
Here is another surprise. I'm not old. My forum name is actually an abreviated Oahu Lecherous Dude Eyeing Everything. I'm actually ILTW's younger brother and the REAL WATCHER of the family. You see the 'ee' after the Old? Thats my eyes looking at everything. Have you noticed ILTW rarely posts late? Thats because she is working. If any of you post I will pm you the bar she works at and what price for FS.Haha you 2 are funny. I can't wait to see what ILTW will reply with. This thread will be fun, interesting, and pretty open from what I'm seeing. Hmmm the things you can get from the places I enjoy going to. Well you can count me in although I don't post too much so I do apologize if I don't contribute as much as others ahead of time. At the same time doesn't mean that I haven't gone to my share my Kbars, Jbars, Vbars, AMPs, Strip clubs (although ones here aren't that great) , Caberet clubs (japan mostly) , soaplands (japan only) , nightclubs, or just your plain regular sports bars. On a side note what is considered young and old here?

Oldee
05-18-11, 13:12
I'm not sure if you going to wlecome most of my posts. I do lot of ramblin. And mostly stuff that onlymakes sense to me and sometimes not even to me. I don't always consciously think about what what tactic to use with which kbg. And when I try to put it in words, it usually comes out scrambled. But I hope that anything I do post is helpful to at least one guy out there.

I agree with ILTW that any info is good info, even if you don't need it it might give you the edge in getting what you want. Think of it like a penis pump for your mind. You may not need that extra but might make a difference someday. As a fellow rambler than often doesn't make sense to even myself, YOU my favorlte type poster! Having said that, noone here is the boss, better than anyone else etc. I guess the only boss here is Jackson. If you have something other than a straight kbar report post or kbg brains (or lack of) to post about, it would be on topic here. A mix of anything about kbars would fit too. So Neukd bro, I sure, then again I'm level2 STUPID. Welcome bro!

Oldee
05-18-11, 13:30
Haha you 2 are funny. I can't wait to see what ILTW will reply with. This thread will be fun, interesting, and pretty open from what I'm seeing. Hmmm the things you can get from the places I enjoy going to. Well you can count me in although I don't post too much so I do apologize if I don't contribute as much as others ahead of time. At the same time doesn't mean that I haven't gone to my share my Kbars, Jbars, Vbars, AMPs, Strip clubs (although ones here aren't that great) , Caberet clubs (japan mostly) , soaplands (japan only) , nightclubs, or just your plain regular sports bars. On a side note what is considered young and old here?Whatever you want young or old to be hehe. Good question, for me, young or old is up to each guy to decide for himself. I'm E class but still think I'm young (or is that senile?). Dragon bro, you got more experience than MOST mongers. I really like hear your j soapland storys. Hopefully this place is open including ILTW's legs.

NinjaLurker
05-18-11, 14:54
Great idea Oldee.

This should be fun.

Let me ask one stupid question. Can we discuss Vbars here too?

Iliketowatch
05-18-11, 15:08
I guess some feel shame to write something that may sound stupid.Hey Uki, the greatest power is laughter. Tell them, when you make pabo, just learn, laugh, and move on. Writing about missfortunes, in my case, releases the shame. I get plenty pabo moments. Planny. But I learned from my high school friends (the good looking jock types),"Chance them". They would hit on the chicks in the clubs and no shame if they struck out. So what if make a*s. More a*s if you getting taken by fooling yourself. If you no try, you no get. Failure is just a part of trying. When you no shame fail, then you no shame try. The kb's are built for failure. Time is money. Make one move, sooner than later. You going find out her intentions quicker. You not trying to trace one phone call,"Keep her on the line longer Dano, we still don't have her location, OK Steve". You'll trying to call 911, and get the response NOW! That's why so many guy's house burn down, they wait too long, and the situation engulfs them. When you smell smoke, run out of the house, or buy my line of smoke detector necklaces. You look handsome tonight, BEEP. Can I get one more drink, BEEP. I like old guys, BEEP. When the buggah beep, run. I have fun in the bars. Though I must say it is frustrating. So many tempting bodies, but I'll never lose my sense of humor. The kb's are not life and death for me. Just pure hell.

Iliketowatch
05-18-11, 15:09
Hey Oldee,

Over 500 views in one day. Somebody watching!

Iliketowatch
05-18-11, 16:55
Confirming previous report. Maya did give the girls the speech regarding no hoki poki. You know, left finger in, left finger out, right finger in and swish it all about. So play in mayas? Even the rooms? Will be scarce, know mayas past history and current liquor license status.

On a good note. Cameot is rocking. Big bag of hay. 30 girls or so. Some really new ones too. So if any of you guys are looking for that needle in the haystack. Get'them while they're fresh and uncorrupted. Remember, to find the needle in the haystack, you got to bring your magnetic personality. Just be sure to read the disclaimer at the door,"Needle subject to availability". Scope the terrain carefully, because if you bust out your magnet too fast and catch one piece of scrap metal, I hear horror stories of guys having hard time unstucking the magnet because they no like hurt the girls feelings, and they end up spending way more that they wanted to. Before you know it, it's not your magnet thats got her stuck to you, it's the all-purpose korean duck tape. When she wrap you up as her customer, it's all over. Even if ILTW can help you remove the tape, the adhesive residue no come off easily. You rub them but the buggah pull the arm hairs so you eventually give up. You are now unable to switch partners. So you stuck with her or you no can go there until she bags the bar. And the %'s (here's my %'s again) , will just get smaller in trying to find enough bars to go to in this bar-closing economy. All that being said, In my opinion, camelot get the most, variety, quantity, quality girls fo get hustled by. So when I want to be pabo, might as well have one good selection to choose from. Now I know why, when I when enlist in the army, the recruiter said,"sorry bruddah, the 422nd get too much guys now, we going put you in the 443rd". The "Going be broke" regiment. They knew something I didn't know back then. If I only when enlist one guy ahead of me, I would be one hero to you guys. So close, but yet so far. Story of my life in the kb's. So if blowing cash is your thing, camelot get the bling (for 3 months that is). P. S. And they get the two famous "pay for play" whor*s in the Kaps area, if the urge hits you. The current all-in-one pabo heaven IMHO. Spokesperson is not associated with, employed by, nor is he collecting any payment from camelot for his views. Results may vary. This post has not been rated yet. Credit card discretion advised. My name is ILTW and I approve this massage (especially if it includes a HE).

Oldee
05-18-11, 17:04
At the risk of you guys getting the wrong impression, I have an experience with love at first sight with a kbg. I am not someone that looks like brad pitt or even what youd call handsome imo. Anyhow, a few years ago, there was hot MILF that I thought just the normal wanting to snag a bar boyfriend but no, she liked me no strings attached (at least $wise) kind like. Sounds good right? Nope! Its fustrating cause if you accept her, you going be in another world filled with DRAMA even tho you so horny and want it BAD. IF you make a hit and run, you got to watch your back the rest of your life. You know the saying about a women's scorn right? I rather choose the one I want rather than risk my life. In my young days, had that happen with civilians but that happenned to lots of guys and was common teenage time. Only thing the ones you no like like you, LOL. Anyway, as far as that happening with a kbg and guys, its a curse imo. Getting all worked up and horny knowing you better decline is a bummer man.

Iliketowatch
05-18-11, 18:27
Picking only one girl will result in kbg possession. The girl's all respect each others customers (well most of the time). Once you are her "regular", you are deemed off limits to the rest. Any time you hear michael buffer, it will be because someone is trying to steal a customer away. Happens, but rare. The best way to avoid this, is, buy everyone a drink. Well not everyone. Just spread the wealth. Play the field. The girls don't like this, but it's your best bet to retain power and control. Be the guy who will buy "possibly" I said possibly, any willing suspect a drink. No more, trying to get rid of a lost cause, no more making a scene, no more "I going hurt her feelings", no uncomfortable dear jane texts, no more bars of limits because of "that" girl, just a wide open draft every night. You stand at the podium and say,"With my 1st pick tonight, I select". Or if you don't feel like it, you can trade your pick for a $10 drink to the barback, and just cruise the night. And when the new draftees arrive, you can choose freely without the old "regular" getting all huffy. How many of you bought your phone one day before the new model came out with a 2 year contract. OK Oldee, you can put your hand down now. You stuck with that phone for a while, while everyone else is going 5G when the new models arrive. Grooming one bit*h, is not a kb trap, it's your own doing. Your actions are creating your own results. Each girl strives to have their own personal banker, and you make it easy for her to do it. Disclaimer: Lover boys must not read this post. Results could cause heart attack, stroke, brain growth, appearance of balls, or in some instances, death. See you shrink before indulging in such activities. Dr. ILTW, phd (professional heineken drinker).

Iliketowatch
05-18-11, 18:31
Just noticed the title of your thread "Korean Bar Tactics and discussions". Why is the "the" small. Is it because your "the" small? Us bar girls notice all the subliminal message you guys try to send. Just busting your "small" balls, buddy!

Iliketowatch
05-18-11, 19:27
Women always insist they're looking for a "nice guy," but they waste no time running past one to get to a jerk / bad boy. It really seems they're drawn to guys who treat them badly. My most egotistical friends score with women like crazy, and I'm a nice guy who's alone. If my experience is any indication, what women really want are domineering users who have sex with them and toss them aside. &8232; Dateless guys like to blame their situation on how "nice" they are — as if nothing zaps a guy's mojo like being the kind of fellow who'd bandage a bird's wing or drive an old lady to the store. Night after night, they rock themselves to sleep, whimpering,"Am I just too wonderful to be anyone's boyfriend?" when the question they probably should be asking is "Why doesn't the approval-starved, needy suckup get the girls?"

Self-proclaimed nice guys are often not nice at all but overly nice — snakes in worm's clothing driven by crushing wimpiness, fear and desperation. Instead of taking the straightforward approach to hitting on a woman, the so-called nice guy offers to do a bunch of chores for her — not out of the goodness of his wimpy little heart but to bribe her into wanting him. This guy not only finishes last, he gets left holding the broom.

"Nice" versus "jerk"/"bad boy" is actually an oversimplification. NYU personality psychologist Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman has been digging into the nuances, which he laid out in his talk at an evolutionary psychology conference I attended in April at SUNY-Binghamton."

Kaufman described the classic jerk as "narcissistic, selfish, thrill-seeking and chauvinistic." He focused on the narcissistic angle, noting that narcissists tend to be a bust in long-term relationships (they're all about being admired instead of being a partner) , but they're quot; masters at first impressions." He cited research that suggests a whole lot of us find narcissists highly likeable at first. We're drawn to them thanks to four things: They tend to dress with personal style (flashy or expensive clothing) , they have self-assured body language, they come off warm and charming, and they pepper their conversation with witty remarks. But, in the research, those who initially found the narcissists charismatic, well-adjusted, and fun saw their true colors upon further interaction (recognizing them for the self-obsessed, groupie-seeking, manipulative creeps they actually are).

While many women are drawn to bad boys, especially in their early 20s, there are three basic types who will put up with one: thrill-seekers, fling-seekers, and sad-sack gaping wounds. Regarding your contention that women want "domineering" men, Kaufman laid out research that shows they actually want men who are "assertive" as opposed to "dominant." What's the difference? Well, a guy who says to his date,"We've got to leave right now" as opposed to tying her up and throwing her in the trunk.

Kaufman summed up his talk by describing the ideal man as strong without being aggressive and demanding, and sensitive without being meek, wimpy, or submissive. He described this man as "the Prestigious Man," and gave George Clooney as an example. This sort of man is confident, achievement-oriented and extroverted while also; being caring, generous and helpful. Kaufman emphasized that kindness and assertiveness aren't mutually exclusive, and having both in one man is especially important to women. He also noted that the Prestigious Man has genuine self-esteem, based on his accomplishments (as opposed to the blustery "Look at me!" self-esteem of the not-so-nice guy).

So, the answer for you and other nice guys is. Become George Clooney? No, nor should you start hitting on women with "Hi! I'd like to have sex with you and throw you away like used Kleenex!" But, think about where a guy who might say that is coming from. He's having fun, shaking things up. He isn't living in fear of rejection. And he doesn't take rejection as a statement of his worth, just a sign that it's time to go offend the next girl.

What you need to do is borrow from the bad boy's successful tactics. You won't transform yourself overnight, but you can work on being more self-assured, and until you start to feel it, do your best to act self-assured. To ramp up your Prestigious Man / Clooneyness, Kaufman suggests you do something socially valuable, something to help humanity. As a bonus, if there's one place you're less likely to find narcissistic, self-serving jerks competing with you for the ladies, it's the volunteer world. In time, with practice, you just might convince some cute volunteer girl to come home with you to help you put Bactine on that rash you got from tucking your tail between your legs.

(see) 2011, Amy Alkon, all rights reserved.

Brought to you by the narcissistic, thrill-seeking, kb monger, ILTW. Enjoy!

Oldee
05-18-11, 20:56
Great idea Oldee.

This should be fun.

Let me ask one stupid question. Can we discuss Vbars here too? Shua bra, like when you go bar hopping and go Misty's after you struck out with the kbg rob for example. Or say comparing v girls to k girls or vb to kb, just post what you like your way and go for it bro. BTW, Stupidness is the standard here and very acceptable.

Iliketowatch
05-18-11, 21:21
Just noticed the title of your thread "Korean Bar Tactics and discussions". Why is the "the" small. Is it because your "the" small? Us bar girls notice all the subliminal message you guys try to send. Just busting your "small" balls, buddy!Just noticed the title of your thread "Korean Bar Tactics and discussions". Why is the "D" small. Is it because your "D" small? Us bar girls notice all the subliminal message you guys try to send. Just busting your "small" balls, buddy!

Oldee
05-18-11, 22:15
Just noticed the title of your thread "Korean Bar Tactics and discussions". Why is the "the" small. Is it because your "the" small? Us bar girls notice all the subliminal message you guys try to send. Just busting your "small" balls, buddy!Its not how small but how you use it to ball. Besides, I wen buy supa kb extenze garantee make you 500% bigga or money back. Available at Aloha kb Tours. 20bucks a pill.

Uki Eater
05-18-11, 22:27
Sometimes our opinion / how to / how not to posts clutter the other thread for those seeking straight info on specific reports. I thought we can use a thread for whatever is on your mind regarding korean bars and tactics to score sex with kb women. Discussions about how we strategize to get sex can be useful imo. I hope this thread flies so we can post stuff that may be off topic in other threads but deals with getting sex with korean bar women whatever kind of sex that may be.Good idea on creating a new thread on this. I know other members was getting irritated with all the babbling. It's just that been boring and same old same old to bother posting KB reports. Anyways, let's look at some tactics. The hell if the BGs readum. Fuckum! LOL.

You should know what you want or else you won't have a clue why you're at a hostess bar. What's your main reason to going hostess bars? Maybe just lounge around and kill time or just something to do. If its play that you seek, you need to imply to her that you want that. If you don't and its just talking, she not going do anything. You'll just be sitting next to her talking, talking, talking waiting until she make the move. She waiting for you. Plus, if you don't make a move, she'll think you not interested. Heh, you are interested but you shame to make the move huh? No lie hehe cause I was shame to before. Sat with BGs but shame for do anything. Even when they had their hand on my leg. You'll fall into the friendzone if its just mainly talking and there was no move to get physical. The BGs just content to see you as that.

I like the carefree / nonchalant method. When its carefree, you imply that you don't care. You done it many times. You grab her in a playful manner than you let go. You alternate between talking / touching. Doing this, you don't come across as someone who just primarily looking to get play (pervert). You jokingly and playfully touch her but, it has no meaning to it. A subtle touch. Keep her guessing and wondering. You can just grab her hand and just make a silly comment about it but, its not relating to anything. Yet, you're touching her. A friendly meaningless touch. She's not going to mind. If its not continuous, it won't bother her as much. It's not blatant touching / grabbing. Plus, you get a feel on whether she'll welcome it or not. If she no mind, then you roam other areas. If she doesn't welcome it, just pull away and continue talking. Then, at least you have an idea if she likes or don't like. You cannot assume she'll play by waiting for her. However, don't just reach over and grab her chest. Some women (raunchy aggressive ones) may not mind. But, others will be Sukebe! Sukebe! Sukebe Alert! Hehe. Got to make her feel comfortable and lower her defenses. Unload charm missles at her. Laughter grenades, machine gun fun bullets. LOL. Her defenses can't withstand all that arsenal.

If you display nervousness, it won't come as smooth and confident. It displays weakness and inexperience. Women (BG or not) are not attracted to weak guys (not referring to physical strength) Need to display strength (masculinity and dominance). Embrace her like you're her protector. Women want to feel safe. But, you can be dangerous. On the first drink, you pretty much can at least put your arm around her waist. You got to do it like you done it many times. She'll move closer and lean on you. You need to feel comfortable with yourself to make her feel comfortable. Need to come on strong (of course keeping your smoothness) and relaxed. Eventually, it will come naturally. If you be to serious, you'll intimidate her. Maybe even scare her. Be to funny, hard for her to take you seriously. You have to be a little bit of both (Rebel / Good Guy) to excite and keep her on her toes. It's like a rollercoaster ride. It's steady and smooth then you suddenly take a sudden dip. Same with being nice / gentleman like than you be a rebel to her. Alternate between the two. This way, harder for them to categorize you. Is he a Nice guy? Bad boy? Which one? It's hard for most guys to make the move. If she cute, you don't want her to see you as a pervert and she don't want to sit with you. Plus, I know you don't want to look stupid when she no like you touch her. That's why, got to start slow with the meaningless touch. If the touch is gentle, it's soothing.

If you not comfortable with yourself, nervous, conscious of what others will think, you won't be gutsy to try. Shame to do it because people are around looking. You'll hesitate."Nah, Nah, I no like. Shame!" Hehe. It's like a chick who is shy to give you a BJ. She scared to do it and don't know how. How can you be turned on by that? But, what if she talks dirty and wants it bad. Guaranteed you're going to get turned on. Practice on the BGs that you don't really care for. So what if she likes it or not. You don't give a Shit anyways. Right? Build that confidence up by practicing on random ones.

The prettier ones not going to give it up easy. No way. If they can get guys to buy them drinks without having the need to get touchy touchy, then there's no need for them. They know guys will want to touch them. Besides, if you had to blow $$$$$$$$ on them just to get play, she not sexually attracted. Plus, you know these women, they have the: "Can you afford me?" Mentality. When more guys gawk and drool over her, this gives more validation for her to think: "I am hot! I must be if guys chasing after me" It's feeding their ego. Heh, that's why cut her down sometimes. A bad boy rebel would. You think he gives a Shit about her? There's no way a nice guy would though. Need to bring the ego down. The girl will automatically think: "Oh gawd, another guy who wants a piece of me!" If the girl gives it up for less, than the guy will think he can get more of it for the same $. But, of course she no like. She values herself as expensive. She no consider herself as a cheap economical car. She sees herself as being a luxury car. That's why they charge an arm and a leg for the guys she not attracted to and interested in. Sure, she eventually puts out but, at least by then, she got a boatload of $$$$$$$ as an incentive.

Oldee
05-18-11, 22:31
Proffesa ILTW wen give alot homework to read so I no can go AMP tonight. BUT get lab study at Camelot and EV. God I LOVE this school!

Oldee
05-19-11, 03:09
Hey Oldee,

Over 500 views in one day. Somebody watching! Thank you all for viewing this thread whoever you are. I'm kind of shocked there is that many views as I post this 900+ in little over a day. Could be ILTW's wives clicking every minute to check up on him tho. There's alot of quality info posted so far and I wouldn't waste just scrolling past, especially if you really want to score, save money, and have more fun. My friend said there might be infomation overload today so I suggest you take your time reading. The bar report of camelot and EV is very good too BTW. For me, I'd like to hear from the non experts, the regula bar goer. For example favorite bar and why, fav bg and why, musings, questions, complaints, ideas etc. My frhend also said some guys are shame they not going post stuff like Iltw and are intimidated. No need be, we all in the same bucket. Look at me I'm the ONLY one posted make A moments but thats ok. I'm just more willing to share not that only me got that kind moments. Right? ? Some just like pick out info if useful but won't share. Thats ok too. Then there's the hottie spy kbgirls out there! Hi BABES! Pm me and I will buy you nekos! Better yet post and complain about us nasty no good bastards! You welcome to vent here. In any case, thanks again, especially to you posters.

Uki Eater
05-19-11, 07:25
Thank you all for viewing this thread whoever you are. I'm kind of shocked there is that many views as I post this 900+ in little over a day. Could be ILTW's wives clicking every minute to check up on him tho. There's alot of quality info posted so far and I wouldn't waste just scrolling past, especially if you really want to score, save money, and have more fun. My friend said there might be infomation overload today so I suggest you take your time reading. The bar report of camelot and EV is very good too BTW. For me, I'd like to hear from the non experts, the regula bar goer. For example favorite bar and why, fav bg and why, musings, questions, complaints, ideas etc. My frhend also said some guys are shame they not going post stuff like Iltw and are intimidated. No need be, we all in the same bucket. Look at me I'm the ONLY one posted make A moments but thats ok. I'm just more willing to share not that only me got that kind moments. Right? ? Some just like pick out info if useful but won't share. Thats ok too. Then there's the hottie spy kbgirls out there! Hi BABES! Pm me and I will buy you nekos! Better yet post and complain about us nasty no good bastards! You welcome to vent here. In any case, thanks again, especially to you posters.Lots of female readers maybe hehe. You know women, they like talk intellectual and interesting discussions. They like to read interesting posts to.

Heh, you know, I must say guys shouldn't be shame. I mean we all adults here. Not young elementary school kids that tease one another. In fact, people who open up and not shame to say what's on his mind going get respected more. Even women agree on this.

BTW Oldee, you get any extra small t-shirts? I was thinking of pumping up the show muscles at 24 hr fitness, wear the t-shirt to show the chest, arms and traps before hitting the bars. Since ILTW saying get new girls at Camels plus, I never bothered with Mayas girls at EV yet so. Just want to walk in the bar ready to flex. Drink my beer, flex the ARM. Walk to the bathroom, squeeze the traps. The best is when the BG have her ARM around your ARM and you constantly flexing it hoping she feels it. I use to do that when I use to see the BG I really liked years ago. Wear the shirts that cling to your arms. Feels good when she started feeling me up and squeezing my arms: "oh wow, muscles" I would get her a drink after. I know, hehe pretty lame huh? Hehe. I know some guys do this to. Hehe.

This is part of why I was offended by ILTW top 20 postings in "The Mind Of A Korean Working Girl" The 24 hr fitness nut.

Oldee
05-19-11, 07:55
Lots of female readers maybe hehe. You know women, they like talk intellectual and interesting discussions. They like to read interesting posts to.

Heh, you know, I must say guys shouldn't be shame. I mean we all adults here. Not young elementary school kids that tease one another. In fact, people who open up and not shame to say what's on his mind going get respected more. Even women agree on this.

BTW Oldee, you get any extra small t-shirts? I was thinking of pumping up the show muscles at 24 hr fitness, wear the t-shirt to show the chest, arms and traps before hitting the bars. Since ILTW saying get new girls at Camels plus, I never bothered with Mayas girls at EV yet so. Just want to walk in the bar ready to flex. Drink my beer, flex the ARM. Walk to the bathroom, squeeze the traps. The best is when the BG have her ARM around your ARM and you constantly flexing it hoping she feels it. I use to do that when I use to see the BG I really liked years ago. Wear the shirts that cling to your arms. Feels good when she started feeling me up and squeezing my arms: "oh wow, muscles" I would get her a drink after. I know, hehe pretty lame huh? Hehe. I know some guys do this to. Hehe.

This is part of why I was offended by ILTW top 20 postings in "The Mind Of A Korean Working Girl" The 24 hr fitness nut. I get the HULK HOGAN rippable style shirt in xx small saying I SING NOBODY DUETS ALONE ready for action!

Dragons76
05-19-11, 08:50
People might be shame or they don't want to share due to circumstances. I can understand for not posting to avoid the bgs or AMP women finding out who you are. I would respect that to keep you anonymous. Just don't post intimate info or any "catch" or "hook" lines that you always use that get all the bgs to melt for you. Although I think if the bgs go in rain or if sunlight hits them they going melt. Some of them are so pale they probably are vampires (haha then again they do enjoy sucking a lot of things). (Looks at my own skin. Ahhh shit I must of be bitten I'm pretty pale and I stay up late driinking and sleep till the sun is down if I no work) Also some of the bgs put on too much makeup so I would be shame to admit or post after I get play from her and found out what she really looks like due to me sobbering up from all the action and play. Or when all the lights come on due to the bar closing you see what the bgs actually look like. You shake your head and say how much did I drink. I wouldn't post due to the "shame" that I was spending $ on them. Hehe all jokes aside Oldee pm what you like know about the soap lands. NinjaLurker if you go to a lot of Vbars what is the name of the one that shares the same building as SPIII is it 24kDiamond?

Uki Eater
05-19-11, 14:08
NinjaLurker if you go to a lot of Vbars what is the name of the one that shares the same building as SPIII is it 24kDiamond?Sorry to confuse you and others. I believe I listed 24K Diamond but, I was just being silly with the name of the bar and put 24K. It's just called Diamonds.

Iliketowatch
05-19-11, 16:29
I'm kind of shocked there is that many views as I post this 900+ in little over a day.Over 1, 300 views and 30 posts. Didn't know I had so many relatives. No tell aunty you saw me at the bar. And any of you little ILTWatchers trying to track daddy down for support, go see mama, I when already prepay with nekos before you were born. You neva wonder why mama always had flattened cardboard beer boxes on the floor? IHope you look more like mama than me. Better read daddy's posts carefully, and snag one kbg quickly, time is running out if your really mine, your hair going hemo when U-turn 35.

Iliketowatch
05-19-11, 16:59
Walked into camelot last night. Choke people, No space for ILTW. Was P mamas birthday. Thought I actually saw a smile from brian when he saw I no mo seat. Nah, no can be, but never stay around because I not interested in seeing pigs fly. Thought about dropping into winner 8. Lingerie straps softly craddling every wrinkle, cellulite folds outlined by lace, dry skin snagging on silk, Damn! Probably going be more crowded that camelot. The images floating in my mind. Small ILTW said, OK, you win tonight, beer no taste that good. Like Like time, cheap nite.

Iliketowatch
05-19-11, 18:20
This is part of why I was offended by ILTW top 20 postings in "The Mind Of A Korean Working Girl" The 24 hr fitness nut.Take no offense UE. It's just my deranged way of telling the guys out there, the girls will play the game you bring to the bar. With your six pack, you probably when squat more times at the "Y" than me with my keg. But when you walk into the bar, the girls all see that you cut. No girl is going to sit by you and discuss the world's starvation problem or the necessity to abstain from sex until you are married. They want a drink. They will push your button. They will play the stud card on you. Works, doesn't it? If a geek sat at the bar, the kb will run to the restroom, take off her contacts, put on her glasses, launch the warlords game on her ipod phone and approach him fully prepared for the kill. If she went up to him and squeezed his boney biceps and said, wow, you must work out? He would know she's playing him. No drink. So she makes him feel like he's in geek heaven. All the girls know if they want a drink from me, they got to put up with the roaming hands. And when they need cash, my hands roam. That's my I'd. That's my opening to charm for more. Welcome to the jungle. I told you about the three honeys who want marriage. They think, fat guy, bring him food. They still never learn. The way to this mans heart is thru his pants. Once I found out their game is cooking, game on. So I play their game. Oh, this sooo ono, maybe I got to marry you. Next time more ono stuff. How come you no mo husband? More ono stuff. I not saying the geek doing anything wrong. Maybe he no like lick nani that someone already might have licked that night. Or maybe he no like have sex and then be papa to one hapa kid. Maybe he just like compare high scores with one bar girl. That's his choice. But if he like find out if she really like get her uki wet, she already know what to do to get his wallet dry. She already saw him with Oldee's special t-shirt as soon as he when walk in. She's trained to observe, like me. Sneaky little be*tches. Oldee, you getting kick back from the girls? I like some action. Had planny guys with your shirts on in camelot. Neva know you had on aloha print line. Stay cool UE.

Iliketowatch
05-19-11, 18:42
No take offense when something I write hits a nerve. I never get offended when guys makes cracks at me. Just no call me a liar. If it's true, I got to live with it. I see, I hear, I report. If you like say the best way for one fat guy to get pus*why is with one fat girl, why you chasing the skinny ones ILTW, I agree. Sore, but true. If you like say the best chance for one old guy to get pus*why is with one old girl, why you chasing the young ones ILTW. Double ouch, but true. If you like say the best chance for one ugly guy to get pus*why is with one ugly girl, why you chasing the hot ones ILTW. Triple nut shot, but true. If you like say the best chance for one bald guy to get pus*why is with one bald girl, why you chasing the one's with hair ILTW. I say, at least give me something. Shaven pus*why OK, but shaven head, throw ILTW a small bone. That's why they make wigs. All I can say is, I only trust two things in a KB. My eyes and my ears, and that's what I post. Shut up Oldee, I know I get two eyes and two ears so that's four things, oh numbers man. Trying to be serious here. Just took one triple nut shot.

Oldee
05-19-11, 19:09
We all know most of the play girls, most of them have been mentioned on the forums and its a matter of price negociation. Sometimes they are fun, especially when they are in the discount giving mood. However, most of us like to play with the OTHER ones. These are the girls most guys go to see along with the ones they want to court and make their girlfriends. They usually don't play, along with the ones that NEVER play, or very rarely. These are the girls MOST of us sit with. Every single night, they will be sitting with guys buying them drinks varying from a few to many. So how do you distinquish the difference between the play, possible play and never play girls? Vets can usually tell quickly but new guys seem to not know the signs. However, the signs are there, usually loud and clear. Play girls are no brainers as they will often lead the way and its a matter of of holding out on nekos versus play time. The others? You need some game. No game? Play with the play girls or go AMP. Not sure? Read their body language and see if she trying to impress you versus you trying to impress her. Sorry guys but I see very little of the bgs trying to impress the guys at every bar, EVERYTIME. The reason for this is that they KNOW your game as ILTW said and seen it so many times, she can play you like concert violinist. This is where game is needed should you STILL want to chance um. The odds of success are LESS than vegas imo. In my view, certain ingredients are needed for possible success. First, you need game. Second, you need to choose wisely, someone that at least is doable even if difficult. Third, the timing and circumstances got to be right. I'm sure there are other factors but thats the main 3 for me. If you are not good at reading her and the situation, don't even try. You can keep buying if you're having fun, but don't expect to get ANYTHING. Thats just the reality of kbgirls. Having said that, you DO have chance because you CAN work on your game. ALOT of game tips are found on the forums. Hopefully more will will be posted here. Post your questions, tips and comments guys.

Iliketowatch
05-19-11, 21:05
Yup, Cancer. Do you have KB cancer? I once had it. Am I cured? Well, lets say I'm in remission. In the old days when I was the young one, with my older teachers. They would say, hey boy, that one prime for you, go kau kau her in the back booth. These were the proven bar wh*res. Great for a horny youngster, but I got bored being served clam on a platter. I needed to know if I got what it takes to bag my own catch. When I started to venture off by myself, understand this is when the great change in KB's occurred. The "not everyone played era". I caught the disease. KB cancer. Brain cancer. Wouldn't it be nice to groom, court, skeem, charm, my way into a kbg's nani when she really didn't want to put out. Convert her. Make her want me. Male ego supreme. Have enough game, smarts, machoism, to actually make the girl beg for it. Having more hair, younger, I picked my target. Spent bucks on her. Got jealous when she was with someone else. Bought her gifts. Gave her rides. Almost had to borrow money from my friends when the paycheck was a week away. Years go by. She's the one. You can do it forrest. She's the only one. Then finally, she said,"take me". You climbed everest, gasping at the top of the peak, then you finally get there. Shoot, you the man. Then she says,"the Man", you going take care of me for the rest of our lives? I needed chemo. Or what I call, a case of heiny's. Her appeal diminished. Her nani was not special anymore. Did that, been there. Don't need to climb the same mountain twice. It was all about the conquest, and nothing more. Lust in loves clothing. Stayed away from the kb's for a while. Then, bam, hormone overload. Cancer resurfaces again. I reached the top once, I can do it again. Older now, less hair on my head than my pubes. Chase, spend, stalk. But it was never to happen again. Lesson I learned. Like a drug addict, I had to ramp up my high. Went for the ones totally out of reach for my skills, age and looks. Created my own failure. Unrealistic goals. Thought the high would be out-of-this world, if I could do what no man has done before. Went rehab. Local bar with no chicks and cheap heiny's. I know there are alot of you out there who don't like the easy release (AMP) or the proven bar wh*res. Me too. We want to tame the wild beast. We want to get what we can't have. I fight the disease everytime I'm in a KB. So far so good. No relapse. This behavior IMHO, is the cancer of all KB mongers. The worse. The motherload. Jordan thinking he could baseball it. Toney thinking he could MMA it. Evil thinking he could snake river it. When you shoot too high, you end up not "Shooting at all", if you know what I mean. Check the color of yours, and your opponents belt, before you step into the dojo. They group you by your belt color, so you don't get hurt. Don't bite of more than you can chew, and you will be feasting in no time. Sometimes ugly nani better than no nani. But fish only for toro, and you be starving like me (at least I get my 3 honeys for give me pupus) , and free ugly nani if I like. As I scan the bars, the cancer looks like it may be spreading. Plenty astronauts shooting for the moon, but seemingly only to be caught in the girls gravity pull, and going round and round and round. And when time for come back home, FLASH, the re-entry burn hurt like hell. Your rocket never have nuff fuel, bruddah. Sometimes better to just get one telescope and stare at the moon (just watch). But, I know, sometimes when you look up at the sky and the moon seems so big and close you can almost touch them. Tempting yah. Just know that's not the moon, it's the radioactive butt of a kbg. And if you get to close to them, you going have to put up with her when she get one meltdown. The clean up may take years. So stay cancer free, or you going get one bad side effect. Don't know when to stop writing, even when the boss stay in the next cubicle. Ciao!

Iliketowatch
05-19-11, 21:26
Thanks to the monger who said I just like frank delima, and they enjoy reading my posts. No give me big head, my pants tight enough. I no think your family would enjoy hearing me talk about the kbg's and nani during your mother's day brunch at the pagoda. The only stuff I can write about is my bar sickness. Uncle frank is the bomb. I no compare. But any of you kbg's need one taxi ride home tonight? Just call me: four sex sex sex sex sex sex.

NinjaLurker
05-19-11, 21:37
People might be shame or they don't want to share due to circumstances. I can understand for not posting to avoid the bgs or AMP women finding out who you are. I would respect that to keep you anonymous. Just don't post intimate info or any "catch" or "hook" lines that you always use that get all the bgs to melt for you. Although I think if the bgs go in rain or if sunlight hits them they going melt. Some of them are so pale they probably are vampires (haha then again they do enjoy sucking a lot of things). (Looks at my own skin. Ahhh shit I must of be bitten I'm pretty pale and I stay up late driinking and sleep till the sun is down if I no work) Also some of the bgs put on too much makeup so I would be shame to admit or post after I get play from her and found out what she really looks like due to me sobbering up from all the action and play. Or when all the lights come on due to the bar closing you see what the bgs actually look like. You shake your head and say how much did I drink. I wouldn't post due to the "shame" that I was spending $ on them. Hehe all jokes aside Oldee pm what you like know about the soap lands. NinjaLurker if you go to a lot of Vbars what is the name of the one that shares the same building as SPIII is it 24kDiamond?I'm not a Vbar expert. Been to Cache, Misty's, Sandy's (the strip bar) , once to Red Rose, once to SPIII looking for Tina. I did stumble in to the bar on the left of SPIII. Thought it was part of SPIII. Some ballet class sign outside. Don't know the name.

Regarding your comments, she's a 10 at 2, but a 2 at 10.

Iliketowatch
05-19-11, 21:46
Hey guys,

What are your top 3 and bottom 3 asian nationalities for great sex partners? Koreans, Chinese, japanese, Filipino, vietnamese, thai, mongolian, taiwanese, etc. Just curious. Will post mine later. You'll be surprised who is in my bottom 3.

Iliketowatch
05-19-11, 22:09
Does anyone (monger-side, that is) get good results at these events? I. E. Theme nights, grand openining, anniversary, etc. I find them a massive clusterfvck and sometthing like a shark feeding frenzy. They seem to drive up business for the KBGs but don't seem so good for the punter.

If this post should have gone to the tactics thread, please gently send me on my way.Never thought about it, but now that you mention it. Feels like the tease factor gets ramped up to riot levels, but the limited time each kbg spends with you (the sexier the shorter the time) , doesn't allow you get anything accomplished. Like the eye candy though. But I guess mister hand always had the last say on these theme nights for me.

Pervin
05-19-11, 22:13
We all know most of the play girls, most of them have been mentioned on the forums and its a matter of price negociation. Sometimes they are fun, especially when they are in the discount giving mood. However, most of us like to play with the OTHER ones. These are the girls most guys go to see along with the ones they want to court and make their girlfriends. They usually don't play, along with the ones that NEVER play, or very rarely. These are the girls MOST of us sit with. Every single night, they will be sitting with guys buying them drinks varying from a few to many. So how do you distinquish the difference between the play, possible play and never play girls? Vets can usually tell quickly but new guys seem to not know the signs. However, the signs are there, usually loud and clear. Play girls are no brainers as they will often lead the way and its a matter of of holding out on nekos versus play time. The others? You need some game. No game? Play with the play girls or go AMP. Not sure? Read their body language and see if she trying to impress you versus you trying to impress her. Sorry guys but I see very little of the bgs trying to impress the guys at every bar, EVERYTIME. The reason for this is that they KNOW your game as ILTW said and seen it so many times, she can play you like concert violinist. This is where game is needed should you STILL want to chance um. The odds of success are LESS than vegas imo. In my view, certain ingredients are needed for possible success. First, you need game. Second, you need to choose wisely, someone that at least is doable even if difficult. Third, the timing and circumstances got to be right. I'm sure there are other factors but thats the main 3 for me. If you are not good at reading her and the situation, don't even try. You can keep buying if you're having fun, but don't expect to get ANYTHING. Thats just the reality of kbgirls. Having said that, you DO have chance because you CAN work on your game. ALOT of game tips are found on the forums. Hopefully more will will be posted here. Post your questions, tips and comments guys.. That having deeps pockets might help. And I mean very deep. I know most of us cannot afford to drop $2k-$4k on a single visit let alone in a year. But how can you spend that much you ask? Either A: You own a business and need to take clients out and show them a good time or B: Your friend is the one who owns the business and you are just tagging along and are just lucky enough to get treated. From experience, the first night out with throwing down that kind of money does open up the girls to action very quickly. It also depends how fast you can get them drunk. Now, I always make sure that they can sing! If they can sing that means that they are not affraid to stand up and be open about themselves, to a certain extent. So, if they can sing, then they are most likely a keeper. If not, get another one who isn't shy. I've also noticed that getting lucky with these BG's requires timing, meaning come in when its about closing because you might get one thats drunk or tipsy. I was actually told by a KBG to do this, and it works, sometimes. Which is better that non of the times. Lastly, knowing or asking the MS for a crazy girl does work. Because she'll bring you one. And if that girl doesn't put out DO NOT BE AFRAID TO GET ANOTHER ONE AND TRASH THE SHITTY ONE. Remember, you are there to have a good time with the budget that you have. Its not the BG's having a good time and taking your money while you only get blue balls. IT IS YOUR MONEY! YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH IT! DON'T LET THEM FUCK UP YOUR HIGH. Ok, I'm going to get down from my soap box now. Be safe my friends!

Pervin

Oldee
05-19-11, 23:51
I don't know about you guys but the picture in my mind of Uki flexing his muscles at Camelot and Evergreen wearing his tight shirt kept me smiling all day. There is a chance a kbg WILL fall for you at first flex bro. SOMEONE is bound to be impressed. I know I will be, LOL.

Uki Eater
05-20-11, 00:13
I don't know about you guys but the picture in my mind of Uki flexing his muscles at Camelot and Evergreen wearing his tight shirt kept me smiling all day. There is a chance a kbg WILL fall for you at first flex bro. SOMEONE is bound to be impressed. I know I will be, LOL.Hehe, only kidding. Doing that is just trying to draw attention and impress. Like ILTW said about testosterone, boosting the ego. When the bar closes, guys like impress and show the BGs what car they drive and offer them a ride home. Anykine means to impress the chicks. Money, car, muscles. I think the BGs just rolling their eyes. They making it obvious they trying to impress.

Uki Eater
05-20-11, 00:23
Women always insist they're looking for a "nice guy," but they waste no time running past one to get to a jerk / bad boy. It really seems they're drawn to guys who treat them badly. My most egotistical friends score with women like crazy, and I'm a nice guy who's alone. If my experience is any indication, what women really want are domineering users who have sex with them and toss them aside. &8232; Dateless guys like to blame their situation on how "nice" they are — as if nothing zaps a guy's mojo like being the kind of fellow who'd bandage a bird's wing or drive an old lady to the store. Night after night, they rock themselves to sleep, whimpering,"Am I just too wonderful to be anyone's boyfriend?" when the question they probably should be asking is "Why doesn't the approval-starved, needy suckup get the girls?"

Self-proclaimed nice guys are often not nice at all but overly nice — snakes in worm's clothing driven by crushing wimpiness, fear and desperation. Instead of taking the straightforward approach to hitting on a woman, the so-called nice guy offers to do a bunch of chores for her — not out of the goodness of his wimpy little heart but to bribe her into wanting him. This guy not only finishes last, he gets left holding the broom.

"Nice" versus "jerk"/"bad boy" is actually an oversimplification. NYU personality psychologist Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman has been digging into the nuances, which he laid out in his talk at an evolutionary psychology conference I attended in April at SUNY-Binghamton."

Kaufman described the classic jerk as "narcissistic, selfish, thrill-seeking and chauvinistic." He focused on the narcissistic angle, noting that narcissists tend to be a bust in long-term relationships (they're all about being admired instead of being a partner) , but they're quot; masters at first impressions." He cited research that suggests a whole lot of us find narcissists highly likeable at first. We're drawn to them thanks to four things: They tend to dress with personal style (flashy or expensive clothing) , they have self-assured body language, they come off warm and charming, and they pepper their conversation with witty remarks. But, in the research, those who initially found the narcissists charismatic, well-adjusted, and fun saw their true colors upon further interaction (recognizing them for the self-obsessed, groupie-seeking, manipulative creeps they actually are).

While many women are drawn to bad boys, especially in their early 20s, there are three basic types who will put up with one: thrill-seekers, fling-seekers, and sad-sack gaping wounds. Regarding your contention that women want "domineering" men, Kaufman laid out research that shows they actually want men who are "assertive" as opposed to "dominant." What's the difference? Well, a guy who says to his date,"We've got to leave right now" as opposed to tying her up and throwing her in the trunk.

Kaufman summed up his talk by describing the ideal man as strong without being aggressive and demanding, and sensitive without being meek, wimpy, or submissive. He described this man as "the Prestigious Man," and gave George Clooney as an example. This sort of man is confident, achievement-oriented and extroverted while also; being caring, generous and helpful. Kaufman emphasized that kindness and assertiveness aren't mutually exclusive, and having both in one man is especially important to women. He also noted that the Prestigious Man has genuine self-esteem, based on his accomplishments (as opposed to the blustery "Look at me!" self-esteem of the not-so-nice guy).

So, the answer for you and other nice guys is. Become George Clooney? No, nor should you start hitting on women with "Hi! I'd like to have sex with you and throw you away like used Kleenex!" But, think about where a guy who might say that is coming from. He's having fun, shaking things up. He isn't living in fear of rejection. And he doesn't take rejection as a statement of his worth, just a sign that it's time to go offend the next girl.

What you need to do is borrow from the bad boy's successful tactics. You won't transform yourself overnight, but you can work on being more self-assured, and until you start to feel it, do your best to act self-assured. To ramp up your Prestigious Man / Clooneyness, Kaufman suggests you do something socially valuable, something to help humanity. As a bonus, if there's one place you're less likely to find narcissistic, self-serving jerks competing with you for the ladies, it's the volunteer world. In time, with practice, you just might convince some cute volunteer girl to come home with you to help you put Bactine on that rash you got from tucking your tail between your legs.

(see) 2011, Amy Alkon, all rights reserved.

Brought to you by the narcissistic, thrill-seeking, kb monger, ILTW. Enjoy! Women are looking for a nice guy but, nice guys just need to have qualities of a bad boy. This is what keeps women on their toes. I'm not a female and I get bored hanging with guys who don't want to do daring things. No sense of adventure. The inmature women would date jerks because they exciting and adventurous. But, when women get older and mature, they then realize and wake up. They don't want to marry and have a future with the jerks that don't treat a woman with respect. Then, they lean towards the nice guys after they been banged, oofed, pounded, drilled, played, broken hearted by the jerks.

Some people misinterpret the bad boy definition like disrespect the woman, break the law, commit crime, etc. No, its not like that. The thing about bad boys is that they don't cater to women, they not pushovers. How can a woman be turned on by a guy always saying: "yes babe, yes babe" Geez. Its like he is her son obeying what the mother tells him. Nice guys lack sexuality to turn women on. Do nice guys bring up sexual topics with women? Most of them don't. Too conservative, traditional and too prim and proper. Would this be a turn on if you ask a female permission to kiss her? Not really. Asking permission displays inexperience. But, if you kiss her unexpectedly, you catch her by surprise.

Nice guys would just agree to what a woman tells them. Boss them around easily. They don't bring a challenge. Bad boys would. They have a carefree attitude. Nice guys would just offer to buy BGs drink even though he not interested in that BG. But, they feel bad so they buy the drink anyway. Bad boys wouldn't buy it. Oh hell no! Hehe. He has the control. It's not being rude and disrespectful, it's being able to hold your ground, put your foot down and say no. Makes you manly and masculine. Nice guys are easily controlled by women. They are softies and they get moody / offended easily. They're sensitive as well. Women don't want to be babysitting these types.

However though, nice guys will prevail in the long-run. At least they don't disrespect and treat women bad. A woman can only tolerate so much in a jerk who treats her bad and disrespects her. Eventually, it catches up to them and they're fed up. Nice guys just need to loosen up, become more confident in himself, have fun, be more adventurous and stand his ground when the woman gets out of line. You are then displaying some of the bad boy qualities. Stop being a peasant serving a Queen. Be the King.

Oldee
05-20-11, 04:38
Thanks to the monger who said I just like frank delima, and they enjoy reading my posts. No give me big head, my pants tight enough. I no think your family would enjoy hearing me talk about the kbg's and nani during your mother's day brunch at the pagoda. The only stuff I can write about is my bar sickness. Uncle frank is the bomb. I no compare. But any of you kbg's need one taxi ride home tonight? Just call me: four sex sex sex sex sex sex.Not Frank but Mel Cabang. Frank and Mel both mo handsome too.

Neukd
05-20-11, 04:39
Nice guys just need to loosen up, become more confident in himself, have fun, be more adventurous and stand his ground when the woman gets out of line.Uki comments are definitely worth another read.

If you have read my post On the other thread, you will notice that it is not all that dissimiliar from some of the points being made by Uki.

I think it can be best summed up with the followiing: "Don't let the kbg think she has the better bargaining position, regardless of whether or not she actually does."

Oldee
05-20-11, 05:00
. That having deeps pockets might help. And I mean very deep. I know most of us cannot afford to drop $2k-$4k on a single visit let alone in a year. But how can you spend that much you ask? Either A: You own a business and need to take clients out and show them a good time or B: Your friend is the one who owns the business and you are just tagging along and are just lucky enough to get treated. From experience, the first night out with throwing down that kind of money does open up the girls to action very quickly. It also depends how fast you can get them drunk. Now, I always make sure that they can sing! If they can sing that means that they are not affraid to stand up and be open about themselves, to a certain extent. So, if they can sing, then they are most likely a keeper. If not, get another one who isn't shy. I've also noticed that getting lucky with these BG's requires timing, meaning come in when its about closing because you might get one thats drunk or tipsy. I was actually told by a KBG to do this, and it works, sometimes. Which is better that non of the times. Lastly, knowing or asking the MS for a crazy girl does work. Because she'll bring you one. And if that girl doesn't put out DO NOT BE AFRAID TO GET ANOTHER ONE AND TRASH THE SHITTY ONE. Remember, you are there to have a good time with the budget that you have. Its not the BG's having a good time and taking your money while you only get blue balls. IT IS YOUR MONEY! YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH IT! DON'T LET THEM FUCK UP YOUR HIGH. Ok, I'm going to get down from my soap box now. Be safe my friends!

PervinHey Pervin my good new friend, can I come along too next time? I'll take the leftovers.

Oldee
05-20-11, 05:38
Hey guys,

What are your top 3 and bottom 3 asian nationalities for great sex partners? Koreans, Chinese, japanese, Filipino, vietnamese, thai, mongolian, taiwanese, etc. Just curious. Will post mine later. You'll be surprised who is in my bottom 3. Top3 japanese (soapland) Thai, Vietnamese Bottom3 korean Chinese. Taiwanese

Oldee
05-20-11, 06:09
Take no offense UE. It's just my deranged way of telling the guys out there, the girls will play the game you bring to the bar. With your six pack, you probably when squat more times at the "Y" than me with my keg. But when you walk into the bar, the girls all see that you cut. No girl is going to sit by you and discuss the world's starvation problem or the necessity to abstain from sex until you are married. They want a drink. They will push your button. They will play the stud card on you. Works, doesn't it? If a geek sat at the bar, the kb will run to the restroom, take off her contacts, put on her glasses, launch the warlords game on her ipod phone and approach him fully prepared for the kill. If she went up to him and squeezed his boney biceps and said, wow, you must work out? He would know she's playing him. No drink. So she makes him feel like he's in geek heaven. All the girls know if they want a drink from me, they got to put up with the roaming hands. And when they need cash, my hands roam. That's my I'd. That's my opening to charm for more. Welcome to the jungle. I told you about the three honeys who want marriage. They think, fat guy, bring him food. They still never learn. The way to this mans heart is thru his pants. Once I found out their game is cooking, game on. So I play their game. Oh, this sooo ono, maybe I got to marry you. Next time more ono stuff. How come you no mo husband? More ono stuff. I not saying the geek doing anything wrong. Maybe he no like lick nani that someone already might have licked that night. Or maybe he no like have sex and then be papa to one hapa kid. Maybe he just like compare high scores with one bar girl. That's his choice. But if he like find out if she really like get her uki wet, she already know what to do to get his wallet dry. She already saw him with Oldee's special t-shirt as soon as he when walk in. She's trained to observe, like me. Sneaky little be*tches. Oldee, you getting kick back from the girls? I like some action. Had planny guys with your shirts on in camelot. Neva know you had on aloha print line. Stay cool UE.They exchange nekos as my cut so I end up with nothin.

Dragons76
05-20-11, 11:12
Hey guys,

What are your top 3 and bottom 3 asian nationalities for great sex partners? Koreans, Chinese, japanese, Filipino, vietnamese, thai, mongolian, taiwanese, etc. Just curious. Will post mine later. You'll be surprised who is in my bottom 3.Top 3 right now Viet, Japanese (from Japan) , and Koreans (not localized).

Bottom 3 local Japanese, local koreans, and filipinos.

Oldee
05-20-11, 15:09
Uki comments are definitely worth another read.

If you have read my post On the other thread, you will notice that it is not all that dissimiliar from some of the points being made by Uki.

I think it can be best summed up with the followiing: "Don't let the kbg think she has the better bargaining position, regardless of whether or not she actually does."Yeah, as is ALL the other posts imo. I think you will see a pattern as to what works and what doesn't as guys give their inputs. Also, use the info and adapt it to YOUR OWN STYLE to make it work best for you. Hey Neukd bro, I thought you was a rambla? Hehe.

Uki Eater
05-20-11, 15:30
Take no offense UE. It's just my deranged way of telling the guys out there, the girls will play the game you bring to the bar. With your six pack, you probably when squat more times at the "Y" than me with my keg. But when you walk into the bar, the girls all see that you cut. No girl is going to sit by you and discuss the world's starvation problem or the necessity to abstain from sex until you are married. They want a drink. They will push your button. They will play the stud card on you. Works, doesn't it? If a geek sat at the bar, the kb will run to the restroom, take off her contacts, put on her glasses, launch the warlords game on her ipod phone and approach him fully prepared for the kill. If she went up to him and squeezed his boney biceps and said, wow, you must work out? He would know she's playing him. No drink. So she makes him feel like he's in geek heaven. All the girls know if they want a drink from me, they got to put up with the roaming hands. And when they need cash, my hands roam. That's my I'd. That's my opening to charm for more. Welcome to the jungle. I told you about the three honeys who want marriage. They think, fat guy, bring him food. They still never learn. The way to this mans heart is thru his pants. Once I found out their game is cooking, game on. So I play their game. Oh, this sooo ono, maybe I got to marry you. Next time more ono stuff. How come you no mo husband? More ono stuff. I not saying the geek doing anything wrong. Maybe he no like lick nani that someone already might have licked that night. Or maybe he no like have sex and then be papa to one hapa kid. Maybe he just like compare high scores with one bar girl. That's his choice. But if he like find out if she really like get her uki wet, she already know what to do to get his wallet dry. She already saw him with Oldee's special t-shirt as soon as he when walk in. She's trained to observe, like me. Sneaky little be*tches. Oldee, you getting kick back from the girls? I like some action. Had planny guys with your shirts on in camelot. Neva know you had on aloha print line. Stay cool UE.Yeah. I was pretty upset. In fact I flew my phone. Good thing I got the Ottorbox Defender case on the phone that it didn't break. LOL Nah Nah ILTW I didn't get offended at all. I was laughing actually. I was just pulling your leg. I don't even go to 24hr Fatness. But, the hot BGs do go there though.

Oldee
05-20-11, 16:12
For you interns out there (ALOHA KB CANCER SCHOOL) , we will be having a cancer patient study session this weekend to be held at your nearest kb for your convenience. Please take notice of the symtoms as you WILL be tested. Most of the patients will be in the booths including YOUR TABLE. Notice in particular if you see our school director ILTW ingognito doing surgery on a new kbg. Also notice the nice guy pabos as there are an abundance on weekends. I reccomend you brush up on your notes here before you go. That is all. From: Oldee- Aloha kb Cancer School Administrator

Iliketowatch
05-20-11, 16:23
Yeah. I was pretty upset. In fact I flew my phone. Good thing I got the Ottorbox Defender case on the phone that it didn't break. LOL Nah Nah ILTW I didn't get offended at all. I was laughing actually. I was just pulling your leg. I don't even go to 24hr Fatness. But, the hot BGs do go there though.My friends used all tell me my humor was so cutting, so I got to watch out I no cross the line. Even the kbg's tell me I so forward the way I talk. I just tell them they so backwards the way they talk. They no understand, but works for shut them up. You know the off-hours hang outs huh! Maybe got to join so can sniff some kb sweaty equipment seats. Think going be too obvious?

Iliketowatch
05-20-11, 16:30
Top3 japanese (soapland) Thai, Vietnamese Bottom3 korean Chinese. TaiwaneseAfter I when send the post, I when say, OH NO, maybe I should have told Oldee no can list animals, but, WHEH, you never let me down. You like take me to soapland. I no more japanese blood, but I get hawaiian / Chinese. Can pass? I heard you no can go if not japanese. Any of course the teeth thing. Never poked sushi. But seem like everyone has them high on the list. Maybe got to find the daughter of one japanese dentist who get one sumo fetish. Get any sumo guys without hair?

Uki Eater
05-20-11, 16:56
Hey, I'm wondering, I'm sure some of you might be wondering this to. A BG that you see at the bar or sits with you at the booth. You ever wonder and think how many guys she gave HJ, BJ or FS? How many guys took her home or she took home? Hehe, what if had statistics on each bargirl on this. Who would rank high on the list? Conservative ones, HJ, BJ, FS, DATY.

Oldee
05-20-11, 16:58
Regarding your comments, she's a 10 at 2, but a 2 at 10.LOL, alot of us can relate to that and sometimes its minus2 at 12 when we was REALLY wasted the night before, hehe.

Uki Eater
05-20-11, 17:43
. That having deeps pockets might help. And I mean very deep. I know most of us cannot afford to drop $2k-$4k on a single visit let alone in a year. But how can you spend that much you ask? Either A: You own a business and need to take clients out and show them a good time or B: Your friend is the one who owns the business and you are just tagging along and are just lucky enough to get treated. From experience, the first night out with throwing down that kind of money does open up the girls to action very quickly. It also depends how fast you can get them drunk. Now, I always make sure that they can sing! If they can sing that means that they are not affraid to stand up and be open about themselves, to a certain extent. So, if they can sing, then they are most likely a keeper. If not, get another one who isn't shy. I've also noticed that getting lucky with these BG's requires timing, meaning come in when its about closing because you might get one thats drunk or tipsy. I was actually told by a KBG to do this, and it works, sometimes. Which is better that non of the times. Lastly, knowing or asking the MS for a crazy girl does work. Because she'll bring you one. And if that girl doesn't put out DO NOT BE AFRAID TO GET ANOTHER ONE AND TRASH THE SHITTY ONE. Remember, you are there to have a good time with the budget that you have. Its not the BG's having a good time and taking your money while you only get blue balls. IT IS YOUR MONEY! YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH IT! DON'T LET THEM FUCK UP YOUR HIGH. Ok, I'm going to get down from my soap box now. Be safe my friends!

PervinFor the guys who loaded, splurging is their means of having fun and getting attention. To them, the amount they spending don't really bother them. But to most of us, that is ALOT. It does feel good to splurge because its instant impression right there. They see you splurge, the BGs flock. Some guys love the attention of being someone important that walks into the bar. He VIP like a celebrity walking into a club. Some guys who get cash like to smother and impress women with $. I seen a guy at FN dump $400 worth of $1 bills all to 1 stripper. She was all in shock and was just flattered by it. Then the guy got up and walked out with a grin on his face. My other friend who won money from football, he blew $1500 buying 5 BGs drinks all at once. He said felt good to have all that attention on him.

As far as BGs singing, some of them kill joy. They like to save the singing for the backroom. They like to say this as a means to entice you to go backroom with them. Boo! Hehe. You're no fun. I'm sorry BGs you got to try do something if you hound a guy for drinks. Try and make him laugh (if you can) sing, dance, get physical. If not, why bother buying you a drink? If you're a fun guy and she boring, shit, she might as well buy you a $20 drink cause it looks like you entertaining her.

BG: "No, I don't do that. No, I don't sing."

YOU: "Geez. What do you do?"

BG: "I can't answer that. You need to buy me a drink for me to tell you"

John Ross
05-20-11, 18:08
Lots of times the ones that like to sing, can't sing at all. Cats in heat sound better than some of them.

Iliketowatch
05-20-11, 18:36
Lots of times the ones that like to sing, can't sing at all. Cats in heat sound better than some of them.All you beebers out there beware. One clue the girls look for is, what is this guys into. Karaoke, cars, clothes, etc. Guys will always be proud of something. They feel this is their asset to the world. Stroke them and you got them. If you sing all the time, the kbg will say,"WOW" you can sing good honey. Stroke, stroke, stroke. Feel good yah Elvis? You her man. She impressed."Oxzyhsgefr", Sound of ILTW gaging. She priming you. Time to ask for another drink. Your ego flying on cloud 9. OK, last drink. Why don't you sing one more song. I like hear XXX. You know that one. Yeah, I can sing that for you. Stroke, stoke, stroke,"Oxzyhsgefr". Or, I walk you out to the door. What kind car you drive? The one over there babe. WOW. Soooo nice, you get good taste. I like your style. Stroke, stroke, stroke,"Ywetdhgrft", ILTW getting diarrhea. Feel good yah? You the bomb. You going come see me tomorrow? Sure I not doing anything anyway. Liar, with the chest stuck out proud. Just go home and wax your car at midnight like the rest of us. Or, you look GQ tonight my stud. Yah, this is Tommy Bahama. So soft and silky, and make you look soooo cool. Stroke, stroke, stroke. Feel real good yah? You must have plenty girlfriends? Why? No say why liar, you never had one in your life, that's why you stay at the kb's. But feel too good, got to lie. I going buy you new shirt next time I go Tommy Bahama. What size you wear? XL? No, medium. Oh but your shoulders sooo broad, I thought was XL."Smmmmm", ILTW smiling. He get something to write about tomorrow. Oldee. 3 more customers.

Oldee
05-20-11, 18:43
Lots of times the ones that like to sing, can't sing at all. Cats in heat sound better than some of them.Yeah, I suppose they equate getting drinks with singing but we mean girls who CAN sing. Sometimes they try english songs and I almost wish they stuck to korean.

Oldee
05-20-11, 19:08
Hey guys,

What are your top 3 and bottom 3 asian nationalities for great sex partners? Koreans, Chinese, japanese, Filipino, vietnamese, thai, mongolian, taiwanese, etc. Just curious. Will post mine later. You'll be surprised who is in my bottom 3. What if I want to answer but I one virgin? Can I answer if I include my fantasy kbg and blow up asian doll? Oldee slaps Uki on the head. Hurry up, I like know yr favs Mr AMPMAN.

Uki Eater
05-20-11, 19:24
What if I want to answer but I one virgin? Can I answer if I include my fantasy kbg and blow up asian doll? Oldee slaps Uki on the head. Hurry up, I like know yr favs Mr AMPMAN.Oh hell no. I shame. Plus, I'm a virgin myself that just likes to read, watch pornos, look at Asian models online, look at the models on import car magazines, FHM and MAXIM magazines. Buy those toys at Suzies and Diamond Head Video.

Oldee
05-20-11, 19:44
Hey, I'm wondering, I'm sure some of you might be wondering this to. A BG that you see at the bar or sits with you at the booth. You ever wonder and think how many guys she gave HJ, BJ or FS? How many guys took her home or she took home? Hehe, what if had statistics on each bargirl on this. Who would rank high on the list? Conservative ones, HJ, BJ, FS, DATY.For me, I don't care. I rather not know actually if I'm playing with them. Of course I'm not talking about the play girls that figure in the hundreds and also don't care. Well, I guess I do care if I'm the first or last one THAT day, hehe. Other than that no, maybe gf seekers wonder about your question the most, hehe.

Uki Eater
05-20-11, 20:11
For me, I don't care. I rather not know actually if I'm playing with them. Of course I'm not talking about the play girls that figure in the hundreds and also don't care. Well, I guess I do care if I'm the first or last one THAT day, hehe. Other than that no, maybe gf seekers wonder about your question the most, hehe.Yeah you're right. If you just want to get a piece of her, it shouldn't matter. It's like getting a piece of a provider at an AMP. You don't care. You just want to sample her to. But, if you see her as a possible GF, it would bother you. If you see a BG more than just getting physical with her, You'll get bothered if you find out someone else getting physical with her.

Iliketowatch
05-20-11, 20:39
Hey, I'm wondering, I'm sure some of you might be wondering this to. A BG that you see at the bar or sits with you at the booth. You ever wonder and think how many guys she gave HJ, BJ or FS? How many guys took her home or she took home? Hehe, what if had statistics on each bargirl on this. Who would rank high on the list? Conservative ones, HJ, BJ, FS, DATY.Yujin at camelot. She once told a co-worker of mine, she won't go home with anyone before she makes $500 bucks for the night. So if you planning to take her home, you got to wait until, maybe, say, approximately. 9:00 pm So long she gets to work by 8:30. The veritable walking AMP. Penis breath central. Shake weight spokesperson. Dining at the YWCA honorary member. She's showing her age though. So maybe give her til 9:15. Even an old vacuum losing some of it's suction.

Iliketowatch
05-20-11, 21:27
Yeah you're right. If you just want to get a piece of her, it shouldn't matter. It's like getting a piece of a provider at an AMP. You don't care. You just want to sample her to. But, if you see her as a possible GF, it would bother you. If you see a BG more than just getting physical with her, You'll get bothered if you find out someone else getting physical with her.With 19 out of 20 guys hunting for a girlfriend, if you sit at the bar and "watch", you'll see the "I'll go to the bathroom lover boy". Always causing a traffic jam at the lua, because he's rubbernecking, trying to find out who's she sitting with. Or the guy on the bar, always adjusting his chair so he can catch a glimpse of her in the bar mirror. Panic central. Is he better looking than me? Jealousy central. Where's his hands? Stress central. Is he spending more on her than me? I will bet you 18 out of the 19, never had a girlfriend ever. A "real" girlfriend. Sex included. Like the article I posted. Overcompensation of being nice. Even to the point of talking "baby-like". Fake smiling when she finally returns, seeming happy she was gone. It bothers them to craziness. Again, easy read for the girl, and me."I got him between my thumb and forefinger" doesn't mean a HJ, it's her snatching the 20 from his hands with lightning speed. The acid test is when she comes back and he's talking to his buddies, he will stop his conversation with them and focus on her. As opposed to finishing his conversation, with the wait till I done with my story be*tch attitude. Then he only talks to her while she's next to him. His buddies don't exists. There's a hypocritical saying among the bar girls."Ohew", you actually dating a bar guy? You know what kind of guys go to korean bars? They think they can work at the bar and be normal, but the guy cannot go to a bar and be normal. He's not the ideal catch for a "good" korean girl. I've used their reverse game at times. I've showed them how much of a outcast they really are. Can you marry me for a green card? If you want to marry me for a green card, I don't want cash, I want sex 3 times a day. No way. Well, I'll just tell your parents we met in a hostess bar that you were working at. Now bend over for some anal be*tch. FU, I no like marry you. I cannot tell them I was working at a bar. But don't "good" girls work at the bar? You real sick ILTW. I know. I'm the poster child. So these guys are desperately seeking suji. Maybe I should introduce them to my 3 honeys? Nah, get your own pupus.

Iliketowatch
05-20-11, 21:42
For you interns out there (ALOHA KB CANCER SCHOOL) , we will be having a cancer patient study session this weekend to be held at your nearest kb for your convenience. Please take notice of the symtoms as you WILL be tested. Most of the patients will be in the booths including YOUR TABLE. Notice in particular if you see our school director ILTW ingognito doing surgery on a new kbg. Also notice the nice guy pabos as there are an abundance on weekends. I reccomend you brush up on your notes here before you go. That is all. From: Oldee- Aloha kb Cancer School AdministratorNot to be a downer but, when I Cat Scan the bar, plenty are already terminal. No can help. If she not with me, I get no reason to live. Calling Dr. Howard, calling Dr. Fine, calling Dr. Curly.

Iliketowatch
05-21-11, 00:30
Best lays to date: #1 Chinese, #2 Vietnamese, #3 Filipino.

Worst lays to date: #1 Korean, #2 Korean, #3 Korean.

So why you say, ILTW stay at one KB? I don't know. Must have something to do with quantity not quality.

Explaination:

Chinese: Best acrobat, open to at least try something new, Open to anal.

Vietnamese: Nasty sex, but I get scare she going kill me if I no let her cum first. But nasty is good.

Filipino: Ability to go on forever. Why? I dunno. Naked spanish curves. Very sexy.

Korean: Never, ever, had one live wire. The race I played electrician the most with. One dead fish, twitch more than them. Just doesn't let herself go. Maybe it's me. Or maybe they the race that cannot hold their breath long enough when ILTW stay on top. Props to the softest skin though.

Japanese: Never got to taste, but Oldee going hook me up with one with good teeth one. I'll report then.

Thailander: Never try. To scared to find one nudda small ILTW staring at me, if you know what I mean.

Mongolian: Never try too. They never seem to be around very long. No can work the charm.

The honorable mention of just average: Hong Kongese, Singaporese, Korean AMP gril (no like fake moans) , but never did try Kelly.

Dragons76
05-21-11, 09:11
Yeah, I suppose they equate getting drinks with singing but we mean girls who CAN sing. Sometimes they try english songs and I almost wish they stuck to korean.Haha well if you listen to korean music sometimes you wish that they don't sing at all and that the guy sitting next to her would just put something in her mouth to shut her up. Haha I shouldn't talk sometimes that might me be singing korean / japanese songs with her. Nah I stay just jokin. I don't even sing when I go karaoke with friends! The only time I sing is when I stay in the private rooms at the Kbars hehe :P

Alawai
05-21-11, 12:48
Best lays to date: #1 Chinese, #2 Vietnamese, #3 Filipino.

Worst lays to date: #1 Korean, #2 Korean, #3 Korean.

So why you say, ILTW stay at one KB? I don't know. Must have something to do with quantity not quality.

Explaination:

Chinese: Best acrobat, open to at least try something new, Open to anal.

Vietnamese: Nasty sex, but I get scare she going kill me if I no let her cum first. But nasty is good.

Filipino: Ability to go on forever. Why? I dunno. Naked spanish curves. Very sexy.

Korean: Never, ever, had one live wire. The race I played electrician the most with. One dead fish, twitch more than them. Just doesn't let herself go. Maybe it's me. Or maybe they the race that cannot hold their breath long enough when ILTW stay on top. Props to the softest skin though.

Japanese: Never got to taste, but Oldee going hook me up with one with good teeth one. I'll report then.

Thailander: Never try. To scared to find one nudda small ILTW staring at me, if you know what I mean.

Mongolian: Never try too. They never seem to be around very long. No can work the charm.

The honorable mention of just average: Hong Kongese, Singaporese, Korean AMP gril (no like fake moans) , but never did try Kelly. With the so called Newbies to Hawaii, I wonder how it would be to do a Micronesian? For the most part, many are 1 out of 10, but I have seen just a tiny % of hotties out there, mainly the younger ones. I also wonder if there are any Micronesian bars here in Hawaii.

Iliketowatch
05-21-11, 19:38
ILTW needs a bone thrown to him from the silent majority. The Kb scene has gone moral. The bars were hard core, then mosaic, then soft core, then rated "R", then "PG" and currently "Bring the entire family". Please take 5 minutes out of your life and tell us guys who get sex, why you are looking for romance in the KB's. Tell me what I am not seeing. Convert me. Make me leave Oldee and Uki in the world of lust to join your team. Inquiring minds and ILTW want to know. Tell me why you "feel the need" to get a girl to like you. Not have sex with you, but want to be in a relationship with you. Enlighten me, please. Have you never had a girlfriend before? Have you never had sex before? Not provoking any hate, just provoking input. Post and tell Uncle Watcher, he's wrong. If the bars keep going this direction, I won't have anytime to sell my wares. All the babes will be robbing you guys who let them just sit and smile, and will never learn the importance of working for their cash.

Maybe I can suggest an old monger tactic. Sit at the bar. Scope the talent. Call your future wife over for a drink. Tell her your name. Ask hers. Then tell her you called her over to get her phone number, and give her yours. If she complies, you can then offer her a drink. If she freaks out, tell her never mind. With me so far? If she was the latter, when she arrives with her drink, you got 10 minutes to tell her to give you a call tomorrow if she wants to start dating. I'll guarantee she will say,"What, I don't even know you". Guaran ball-baren. No panic. Look serious. If she gags, no lost, you have an instant true answer. Move on. If she says OK. Even if it was said with hesitance. Reply with,"I feel more comfortable getting to know someone outside the kb scene"."So many girls here just want to lie and play games with the guys to get drinks". The ball is in her court. If she calls you tomorrow. Bang. Your in. You got your wife. You don't have to buy anymore drinks. You got an outside the bar relationship. If she no call. No lost to you (only the initial $20) , and ILTW has another babe back in the pool. We both win. No more endless weeks of trying to bribe her to like you, no more endless weeks of ILTW waiting for you to grow a brain. Just don't pick one wh*re, or you might be tasting ILTW's pubes when you go down on her later that night. Only joking. Or am I?

Or if you give me on all-time convincing reply, Uncle ILTW will sacrifice one of his future wives to service you for a year. You get a choice of "No teeth Tami" or "Boobs by her hips Helen" or "Cellulite Cindy". They will be instructed by me to give you 1 year of GFE. All the sex you want (except anal during hemoroid weeks) , all the food you want, all the attention you crave, everything you come to the bars to achieve. Their main goal is to bribe and seduce you into wanting them, even if you no interested in them. To chage your mind with love and passion. If after 1 day you come begging to me to call off the dog. I will just ask for 1 heiny in return. You can go on your way. You now see what the kbg's have to go through every night sitting next to guys they don't desire and having to hold back their vomit while they vie for more drinks. If you last the whole year, using her for your selfish pleasures, and tell me on day 365, she still hasn't convinced you to be your woman, but what the heck, you weren't going to quit taking advantage of the situation when you got a good thing going, you can now apply at your nearest ILTW host bar. Grasshopper, you have learned how to enjoy being the KBG. But it had no influence on you changing your views about someone you didn't like from the start. You have just sold your "soul" to ILTW. The Kia Soul. You can deal with this, or you can deal with that. Do Dah Dipity.

So throw me a bone and set yourself free. Only the be*tches have a good thing going and your cutting into ILTW's marrow.

Iliketowatch
05-21-11, 19:39
Bringing the mountain mohammed. Get them to offer the goods to you, before you offer your goods (bills) to them. If they know you horny, they will tell you anything to get your favor. If they don't know why your there, then they have to shoot in the dark. Hey ILTW, I bet you one good singer. Liar. You hear this rasp in my voice? It's not one frog, it's old pus*why hairs. Try again. Hey ILTW your clothes are so stylish. Liar! When was the last time you saw someone wearing two left side rubber slippers? Hey ILTW your car is so sharp. Is it a '09, yeah. 1909, you liar. Try again. Leave in frustration or maybe, hey ILTW, feel this. Why do you think the guys who just come to the bars to drink and eat house pupus no get bothered by the bit*hes? They like sex, but they make the be*tches give free samples first. The be*tches don't have a in, or an opening line for someone who doesn't want companionship or sex. What they going say? I like the way you just sit here quietly and drink your beer. Or, I like the way you go bathroom every half hour on the hour. Or, I like the way the peanut shell skins make one pattern on your shirt. They not stupid. Although one time a new girl sat by me for a hour without asking for a drink. Then maya momma came by and ask her where her drink is, and she said,"huh?" in korean. And maya slapped me on the head for taking advantage of the new ones. But all in all, if they got no "clue to you", they will resort to the sex card if they want a drink. It's the only thing left they know will get a rise from you. Once you take companionship and sex out of the equation. They lost. So don't look like you are seeking sex. Don't go looking like you want company. So why go bar if you not going get your ego stroked or get some sex? Answer: To get rid of the smell of desperation. Why you think they all get nose jobs? Flat noses cannot smell the male desperation. No go market when you hungry, no go bar when you desperate. Us vets can smell you a mile away. Oh, wait, someone cooking ika on the grill. Never mind. But the girls can smell you. So why go market if you not hungry? Get beer of course. Ok, seriously. What happens when you just cruise, drink beer and no buy drinks? Kbg desperation! But no boycott the bars. Empty bars no create desperation, just a mad exodus. Full on choke bars with fat wallet monger paired with girls just sitting around, creates kbg desperation. She'll want it (money) more than you want it (sex). Not really true. I know you want it more, but, you have just f*cked her mind over and made her schedule a redo with Dr. Flowers. Fix this nose, it not working anymore. If I cannot sell the fantasy of sex, what else can I sell. The reality babe. And, now it's going to cost her to get what she wants. But until us males all get on the same page, we just f*cking ourselves instead of the be*tches. Another frustrated night for ILTW. The vocal minority. Hey, maybe waipahu get lingerie night. Whos' in?

Not speaking to the "house customers", you are, and I once was, the staple of the KB's. The necessary evils. Hoard the girls for a while, but the bars won't exist with them. I can live with that inconvenience. Peace. But you lover boys are creating an anti-monger mindset in the girls. The bars are for getting sex, not finding love. The girls are supposed to be the desperate ones. Desperate to make money for favors.

Oldee
05-21-11, 21:10
Havnt been Kahili in awhile and went with a buddy so we did the usual looking around. I like to shop at walmart (kalihi) as well as Macys (town) and mainly do window shopping. One thing good about Kalihi is parking isn't a problem. CS was decent early crowd but didn't see any new faces but expected that. Pupus not good like before but ok. The girls know I'm picky but they still try, being a free agent. I'm always surprised how CS get more customers than most kalihi bars when they got the most older bgs in kalihi and less of the 30s ones. Must be they get the most girls that get planny bar boyfriends I guess. What is interesting is alot of guys going Kalihi bars after been town bars and visa versa. The other bars like Kools all old hags too but few in number and always bar is dead. Islander not like before grammas only, get couple younga ones now along with the old ones of course. Went looking for Sonya but I guess she left already or wrong day. Most of the 5plex in the shopping center slow with Green Tea having the most customers. Spotlte had decent crowd too and pupus not bad but girls I possibly would sit with was busy with their bar boyfriends. Pices surprizingly get a few new bgs but if no play and junk english, better not bodda me. I did notice all the guys wearing my t shirts proudly and I'm thinking of expanding into kbar women's fashion now, what do you think? Anyhow was cheap night and only bought barbacks drinks. Oh, forgot to mention we had a good time with the bgirls kissing ass trying to get drinks and giving some quickie samples. Hope you pabos had fun too.

Oldee
05-21-11, 22:26
After I when send the post, I when say, OH NO, maybe I should have told Oldee no can list animals, but, WHEH, you never let me down. You like take me to soapland. I no more japanese blood, but I get hawaiian / Chinese. Can pass? I heard you no can go if not japanese. Any of course the teeth thing. Never poked sushi. But seem like everyone has them high on the list. Maybe got to find the daughter of one japanese dentist who get one sumo fetish. Get any sumo guys without hair?FROM THE MARKETING DIRECTOR: Our offer to you to be our Spokesperson for ALOHA KB FASHON T SHIRTS still stands along with an ADDITIONAL 2 times a year trip to a j soaplands guided by the local mongers there that speak engiish to serve as your go between. I can tell you Mr ILTW, you havnt had sex till you've experienced a top notch soap girl. This our final offer as some other horny pabos are showing interest in the position. End of transmission offer. Actually, soaplands are NOT ONLY for the japs if you run with the locals and I have brought a couple friends with me who was mix too. Actually. The girls WANTED to experience hawaii guys. In some places, the touts will even try drag you in. Just like here, if a tourist wanted kb action go with ILTW, you won't find the info in the tour mags or yellow pages. For me, k girls or any girl can be good or junk regardless of race. Any sex is better than no sex (most times). BTW, we was going offer 3times a year but you wen make fun of my dick which BTW is long like the word discussion (s) , its just not fat with a capital D. Its the S part that really counts being first contact and ending climax.

Oldee
05-21-11, 23:58
Alot of guys are 'regulars' of bgirls and while there are degrees of seriousness, all you regular customers of so and so bgirl ARE a bar boyfriend. I suspect most guys on the forum have at least a few bar girjfriends. Please don't take offense as I don't think there's anything wrong with that per se. If you're comfortable with certain bgirls, good for you and none of my business anyway. Just don't say you're not when you are. I tease my friends all the time about their bar girlfriends so I know some of you might not like the term applyed to you. Most old futs don't care as much and take it in stride laughing it off cause they know its true. You younger guys may say f you, I aint no bar boyfriend. Sure she has my phone, sure if I go that bar she works at I buy at least 1drink, sure she'll get upset if I buy another girl and not her, but I'm not her bar boyfriend. Sorry bro, but if all 3 conditions apply, you ARE her bar boyfriend. It doesn't mean that theres neccesarily anything wrong with that. She may give great service and entertain you as well which is a good thing. I'm writing for the guys that don't know and maybe not aware that there ARE other options. Most of the guys I see in the bar sit with their bar gf. What is is REAL FUNNY is that many guys wish they could sit with the other hot girl on the next table. (probably getting mauled by ILTW) cause she chose you and you met her by chance instead of the ones you really want. Some of you will say'how can when I hardly know her? Sorry bro knowing her got NOTHING to do with it or SEX. Anyone want to share how many bar girlfriends they got? I got a few, its like ILTW'S 3 wives, we LET them be and lead them on. 99% of the the time, its the guy that get lead. Damn, must be hang around ILTW too much and he infecting me wit %s.

Iliketowatch
05-22-11, 00:48
FROM THE MARKETING DIRECTOR: Our offer to you to be our Spokesperson for ALOHA KB FASHON T SHIRTS still stands along with an ADDITIONAL 2 times a year trip to a j soaplands guided by the local mongers there that speak engiish to serve as your go between. I can tell you Mr ILTW, you havnt had sex till you've experienced a top notch soap girl. This our final offer as some other horny pabos are showing interest in the position. End of transmission offer. Actually, soaplands are NOT ONLY for the japs if you run with the locals and I have brought a couple friends with me who was mix too. Actually. The girls WANTED to experience hawaii guys. In some places, the touts will even try drag you in. Just like here, if a tourist wanted kb action go with ILTW, you won't find the info in the tour mags or yellow pages. For me, k girls or any girl can be good or junk regardless of race. Any sex is better than no sex (most times). BTW, we was going offer 3times a year but you wen make fun of my dick which BTW is long like the word discussion (s) , its just not fat with a capital D. Its the S part that really counts being first contact and ending climax.They no going charge me extra for soap up my body, eh? Take plenny fo get my whole body lubed you know. I like the girl get the same rush my cousin had when she when go down the checkers and pogo sky slide. I like her put both arms in the air and say,"weeee, lets do it again ILTW". And no play one joke one me and give me the one with the hage moge teeth. One more question. What is a TOUT? Is it the same as what my big toe experiences when I pound too much shellfish? Never heard that slang before. And last thing. You may have me beat on length, I dwarf you when it comes to girth. Like rap said,"boy the runway not so long, but the buggah real wide". And rap knows best. Have fun tonight bruddah.

Uki Eater
05-22-11, 01:01
Alot of guys are 'regulars' of bgirls and while there are degrees of seriousness, all you regular customers of so and so bgirl ARE a bar boyfriend. I suspect most guys on the forum have at least a few bar girjfriends. Please don't take offense as I don't think there's anything wrong with that per se. If you're comfortable with certain bgirls, good for you and none of my business anyway. Just don't say you're not when you are. I tease my friends all the time about their bar girlfriends so I know some of you might not like the term applyed to you. Most old futs don't care as much and take it in stride laughing it off cause they know its true. You younger guys may say f you, I aint no bar boyfriend. Sure she has my phone, sure if I go that bar she works at I buy at least 1drink, sure she'll get upset if I buy another girl and not her, but I'm not her bar boyfriend. Sorry bro, but if all 3 conditions apply, you ARE her bar boyfriend. It doesn't mean that theres neccesarily anything wrong with that. She may give great service and entertain you as well which is a good thing. I'm writing for the guys that don't know and maybe not aware that there ARE other options. Most of the guys I see in the bar sit with their bar gf. What is is REAL FUNNY is that many guys wish they could sit with the other hot girl on the next table. (probably getting mauled by ILTW) cause she chose you and you met her by chance instead of the ones you really want. Some of you will say'how can when I hardly know her? Sorry bro knowing her got NOTHING to do with it or SEX. Anyone want to share how many bar girlfriends they got? I got a few, its like ILTW'S 3 wives, we LET them be and lead them on. 99% of the the time, its the guy that get lead. Damn, must be hang around ILTW too much and he infecting me wit %s.These days, none. Before there were BGs I like to see but, nowadays, sit with one, then don't bother sitting or going to that bar for a long time. If I do sit with a BG I don't like and bought her a drink, I don't bother with her again. I'll just turn her down the next time. Heh, the guilty feeling, or feeling bad don't affect me. There were 3 that I sat with that try and have me visit them again by texting or calling but, I don't go. I see the text: "can you stop by?" I look at the text and say to myself: "Nah, no thanks Muahahaha"

Oldee
05-22-11, 04:42
Howzit to you folks out there. Judging by the views so far, I guess some people are reading this thread, maybe just curious about a new thread that later noone looks at later on like many on the forums. Still, thanks for viewing and posting. Yeah, not many of us posted, thats why I'd like to humbly ask more of you to come join the party. We crazy go for sex bargoers are the minority view if you know the bar scene. I'd like to hear from the majority view as well as other veiws. No need be shame or fear you going get flamed, because I think we all respect each other's opinions even if different. Its ok to flame me tho and say my posts are a bunch of rambling bs crap etc. LOL. I'd probably agree with you, hehe. The silent MAJORITY that goes to kbars for kbg conversation / companionship guys is who I want to hear from especially. I know there are those who just want a laugh from ILTW's jokes, just post you liked them or hated them. There's alot of you vets too that can share alot of interesting stuff. I heard there was a bargirl that posted in the other thread before, wish you girls would not just lurk and post too. I will respect you even if you go nuts cursing us for talking stink about you girls. Hehe. It would make for a lively thread, LOL. Again, just wanted to know its not me and ILTW's wives / reletives viewing this thread. Its when we knock around diffent viewpoints that we truly learn. Thanks for reading this.

Uki Eater
05-22-11, 06:19
Howzit to you folks out there. Judging by the views so far, I guess some people are reading this thread, maybe just curious about a new thread that later noone looks at later on like many on the forums. Still, thanks for viewing and posting. Yeah, not many of us posted, thats why I'd like to humbly ask more of you to come join the party. We crazy go for sex bargoers are the minority view if you know the bar scene. I'd like to hear from the majority view as well as other veiws. No need be shame or fear you going get flamed, because I think we all respect each other's opinions even if different. Its ok to flame me tho and say my posts are a bunch of rambling bs crap etc. LOL. I'd probably agree with you, hehe. The silent MAJORITY that goes to kbars for kbg conversation / companionship guys is who I want to hear from especially. I know there are those who just want a laugh from ILTW's jokes, just post you liked them or hated them. There's alot of you vets too that can share alot of interesting stuff. I heard there was a bargirl that posted in the other thread before, wish you girls would not just lurk and post too. I will respect you even if you go nuts cursing us for talking stink about you girls. Hehe. It would make for a lively thread, LOL. Again, just wanted to know its not me and ILTW's wives / reletives viewing this thread. Its when we knock around diffent viewpoints that we truly learn. Thanks for reading this.I think its also due to being I'D on here like what Dragons76 said earlier. If a person is a regular to a certain bar, they'll pick up on him. He'll have to keep it as general as possible. Plus, someone who is into a BG wouldn't want to come out and admit that he is. ILTW is going to go off on his post. LOL

Oldee
05-22-11, 16:18
I think its also due to being I'D on here like what Dragons76 said earlier. If a person is a regular to a certain bar, they'll pick up on him. He'll have to keep it as general as possible. Plus, someone who is into a BG wouldn't want to come out and admit that he is. ILTW is going to go off on his post. LOLHaha, don't scare away posters bro. He will NOT go off on those guys but respectfully disagree. (maybe) got to remember Uki, you and I and a few posters really are a minority that go bar for sex. Whose to say we right and they wrong? They can go for whatever reason and purpose they want. What we post may be rubbish and not interesting to many people. I don't think its about getting IDed too as you don't have to make a bar report here. Then there are the lurkers that think their views don't matter or shame ask a question. Any view matters and theres no stupid questions, just stupid guys answering them, (j / k). Lastly, got those that just like to read and no post which I think is the REAL MAJORITY.

Iliketowatch
05-22-11, 17:52
Howzit to you folks out there. Judging by the views so far, I guess some people are reading this thread, maybe just curious about a new thread that later noone looks at later on like many on the forums. Still, thanks for viewing and posting. Yeah, not many of us posted, thats why I'd like to humbly ask more of you to come join the party.Interesting note Oldee. If you keep clicking the thread to try and stack the deck for more views. No work. Only if there is a new post, will the view counter move forward. So all the views are actually true fans of yours. Not ILTW logging in every 2 seconds, to give you one big head. My suggestion for more input is. Remember Dear Abby? You should start one Dear Oldee column. They can ask you questions and you give them honest answers. Dear Oldee, I just bought my girl her 100th drink, think she going love me now? Dear Oldee, My honey text me every morning, thinks she loves me? Dear Oldee. 10 girls when turn me down fo go prom with them when I was young, think I get better chance with one bar girl? Dear Oldee, I one virgin, I shame saying this but, think the girl lying when she tell me she no believe me? Dear Oldee, you think the nice guy approach works best with bar girls? What, you no more nuff time to reply to everyone. How hard is it to type "No" 500 times? You neva heard of Copy and Paste?

Iliketowatch
05-22-11, 17:56
If you stuck in a bar rut. The kbg's playing the same games with you. You keep spending with no results. You keep getting and same ole same ole rejection. Girl after girl. Next time trying ordering ILTW's Hard Lemonade for a change. I don't know how a guy can get fooled, over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.

Oldee
05-22-11, 20:16
Eh, Iltw, at least I wasnt the one asking how to edit a post like someone I know, his name start with I. I get only 3 answers so I not qualified to be Dear Oldee. They are: 1. NO, Buy a shirt from Aloha kb fashions to get more attention. 2. NO, go on Aloha kb Tours and learn from a vet Pabo 3. NO, enroll in Aloha kb Cancer School and see yourself as you really are. I think you would be better for the job because you get mo heart (broken kind) den me. I just like get in on the action that the bgirls getting from these guys. You know, shark feeding frenzy for money.

Iliketowatch
05-22-11, 20:37
Although a bulldog's tail is too short to reach that far down, the buggah was point south. ILTW has learned something new. On a warm summer's Saturday night, he was knocked off of his stool. Cut down too size. XXXL to XXL. But now, he has seen the your light. Lover boys rejoice. With his hand securely half way down her ass crack. She sweating with anticipation of just how long his fingernails really were. And he testing just how strong her cheeks muscles could remain taut for a $20 drink. WOOSH! She was taken away from me, adjusting her thong hastily, by her nerd in shining armor, to a table without roaming hands and only the sounds of love's sweet nothings. I mumbled the "C" word with god speed. Quiet enough, so I thought. But I was wrong. My neighbor on the bar had his hearing aid on high, while getting a free erection watching me through the corner of his eye, negotiate the dangerous Kaukonahua Road' "S" curve of her ass. He turns to me and says,"that's her regular","he's here every night". With major forehead veins pulsing, and small ILTW shrinking back to resting position, downward and to the left, I said,"I don't understand why these guys want a bar gf, they "F"ing my style". Following a ladylike sip from his budlite. My new bar yoda, trying to look macho, sipping his 1st brew of the night, yet feeling the effects of the hops he usually isn't used to, blurts out,"the only way most guys that come to the kb's get chance to score, is if they try to make them their girlfriend". Hallelujah! As the karaoke started playing the titanic theme song, and me resisting kissing the toes of my new found master. I get it. I don't totally agree. But I get it. Gripping my slippers with my sweaty drunken toes, I shuffle my way back to my ride. Slouched back in my seat and pondering for 1 minute, which seemed like a lifetime. I say to myself. ILTW you have overlooked one major tactic. Gf should equal sex. I then ask myself, ILTW, do you really believe guys only want gf's for the sex aspect? To be honest no. I really think they are in love. But I got to admit I never thought of the gf angle to get sex. Maybe because I never considered a kbg, gf material. But my mind was opened to a new tactic. A low % tactic, but still a tactic. I still say, chase a kbg for sex with all the ammo your brain and wallet will allow you to, but if you are looking for a gf that works in kb (lord help you) , you got to make her come to you. That's the only way you'll ever know if it's real. And not an approach ILTW promotes, as well as 4 out of 5 dentist. But what if you built it and they still no come? Then, maybe tricking her into being your gf is your only option for sex. Lots of work, just for one hour of bliss (one hour for ILTW, you can add your own seconds here). Too much work for me. But if you'd walk a mile for a camel toe, then more power to you. I'd rather have her faking her moans, than faking her love. At least I know I'm "In" when she's faking it, as opposed to you guys who only can wonder if you're really "In". So is ILTW going to get a bargirl gf now? Arf arf. That's no in dog talk. But I understand the gf tactic more clearly now. I understand your angle, you dog in heat. You marathon runner, only trudging the 26. 2 for the free after race massage. You state worker, working for minimum wage all your life, just for the retirement perks. You planning for the future. The distant future. The distant, distant future. You actually figured out what she really wants. Long term commitment. OK sugar, you can marry me now, I ready. Our honeymoon going be special. I horny as hell after 30 years of no sex. Oh, but baby, I no can get them up anymore, I old now. But I buy you one vibrator with my next social security check, promise. Never mind then. Mo easy to knock out those 3 other be*tches and try marry ILTW. In the end, anyone who wants to train me to sit, stay, heel, bark, and fetch her drink on her command like you dogs, is barking up the wrong tree with me. Don't dog whisperer sweet nothings in my ear. Don't get me wrong, you have gained my momentary respect for doing something ILTW never though of before. OK, moment gone. This dog is happy just licking himself when he strikes out for the night and I don't mind when I occasionally score, and they stay faking their bark when they refuse K9 and roll over, spread and play dead. I'll take the immediate gratification. Remember, breath honey. I no like have to call 911 again. Papa heavy you know. Why U-turning blue? Told you doggie-style mo safe. You'll never get a leash on this dog. But you can teach old dogs new tricks. You just taught me one. Bar years are like dogs years. Before you know it, your studding days will be over if you keep chasing fast cars all your life. So, before you consider neutering yourself to curb the urge, just do what ILTW do. Make her stand between your legs at the bar and just hump her thigh. My dog get one satisfied smile and rolls back his eyes whenever Ihe mount my sister's leg, so must feel good not only to me.

Oldee
05-22-11, 21:47
Eh, ILTW, on second thought, you like partna with me for my newest venture? Aloha kbg Inside Scoops. I know get choke shy guys like know more info on the girls they pursuing. We going charge $20 bucks yes or no answer and $40 for details. Just like the vegas guys that tell you how fo bet cause we do EXTENSIVE research on these girls. I was thinking of the inside scoops on the guys but the kbg more expert than us. Now I get 4 answers!

Iliketowatch
05-22-11, 21:56
Dear fellow cancer patients. Only speaking to the rare breed that follow ILTW's disease of getting max thrill of taming the untamable. Not interested if she plays. If she play, then I no like. But, If I can get her to play, then I'm all in. Make sure to set a reasonable target. The bullseye might looks tasty, but even the other edges of the target scores you points. Bar boyfriends, no like their girl be one playmate. They like her be pure for their own pleasures. If you can break these girls, one by one, inch by inch, niagara falls, then the bf's will lose interest in their new found wh*res. They too paranoid when she stay with us. Their bubbles will burst. Then without bar bf's they got to come to you for pay for play. Or when they really desperate, play, play, play, play then pay. If we can spread the cancer, then the bars will be like they were before. Lofty task? Yes. But what we get for lose? We stage 4 already. Just don't waste time on the resident miss korea. She too busy conning the "I'm in love with her face" guys. Remember what the instructor told you when you was at the koko head shooting range. Hey mister the target is down here. You like kill the guys hiking on the ridge? Aim lower, please. Live dangerously. Take the safety off. Ready. Aim. Fire!

Iliketowatch
05-22-11, 22:20
Eh, ILTW, on second thought, you like partna with me for my newest venture? Aloha kbg Inside Scops. I know get choke shy guys like know more info on the girls they pursuing. We going charge $20 bucks yes or no answer and $40 for details. Just like the vegas guys that tell you how fo bet cause we do EXTENSIVE research on these girls. I was thinking of the inside scoops on the guys but the kbg more expert than us. Now I get 4 answers!Can we up the ante? For every no answer we give, they pay us $20. For every yes answer we give, we pay them $1, 000. We going make one killing. And when they change their ways so they can start make money off of us. No more gf seekers, no more p*ssy whipped spenders, no more play starved neko buyers. The bars will be back to normal. They'll just be asking us if marrying a kbg is a bad idea. They'll just be asking us if spending more than $1, 000 per week for company is really pabo. I sense fear and hesitance by you my friend. You think we going lose money? Not if we always answer no. Lie my bruddah. You never learn anything from the girls all these years. The only way to make money in one kb is lie. Must I think of everything!

Iliketowatch
05-22-11, 22:36
I never know you was one magician. I was reading your post on chongha and now it disappeared. Your computer get invisible ink? Or is it just my computa? Wish I could rub kochi jang on her tits and tittie f*ck her in the kitchen. You ever got to sample? Is she still going out with that korean bar back guy? He's always been cool with me so I never like mess with her. But I fantasize. No worry. I only sit back table most of time when I stay camelot. No like brian's cheerful personality rub off on me. He always look at me like I going broke the stool.

Oldee
05-22-11, 22:59
If you stuck in a bar rut. The kbg's playing the same games with you. You keep spending with no results. You keep getting and same ole same ole rejection. Girl after girl. Next time trying ordering ILTW's Hard Lemonade for a change. I don't know how a guy can get fooled, over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.Its what I call KBARHOLIC DESEASE. You don't even enjoy going sometimes but its a habit. You spend knowing you wasting money same as throwing it in the trash can. Is there a cure? Is there no hope? Someone help me! Yes there is! You will need several lobotomy visits with Dr. ILTW but his success rate is the best in the business. 50-50. He is director of the highly prestigeous Aloha KB CANCER SCHOOL. For those with mild cases, I'd reccomend the newly opened Aloha kbg Inside Scoops hotline. Take heart guys, theres always a way.

Uki Eater
05-22-11, 23:57
If you stuck in a bar rut. The kbg's playing the same games with you. You keep spending with no results. You keep getting and same ole same ole rejection. Girl after girl. Next time trying ordering ILTW's Hard Lemonade for a change. I don't know how a guy can get fooled, over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.Yup. Going after someone who is not interested. It's like applying for the same job over and over and over hoping one day they consider you and hire you.

The bad thing about this is that if you get fooled by women in a hostess bar, then more than likely, you'll get fooled by women outside of the bar as well.

The thing about the hostess bars though is that that's the whole idea though. Make him think the girl is interested to make him come back.

Just got to look cute and sweet talk him. Pau! It's over. In love already.

To help minimize getting all head over heels crazy for a pretty female, just remember: They take a crap, have BO, armpit hairs, menstruation, the punani smells to just like all other females out there.

Uki Eater
05-23-11, 02:15
Shucks, I guess you saw it already. LOL. Funny Chonga. Trying to talk local."Eh, what's up braddah!" I dunno man about her seeing that bare back guy. Hehe I think I know who you referring to though. He not always there but is there when Ashley is at the bar. The staff at Camelot is cool.

Miss the previous girls that was at Camelot. I think they were more eye candy looking than the new lineup of girls.

Oldee
05-23-11, 02:32
Can we up the ante? For every no answer we give, they pay us $20. For every yes answer we give, we pay them $1, 000. We going make one killing. And when they change their ways so they can start make money off of us. No more gf seekers, no more p*ssy whipped spenders, no more play starved neko buyers. The bars will be back to normal. They'll just be asking us if marrying a kbg is a bad idea. They'll just be asking us if spending more than $1, 000 per week for company is really pabo. I sense fear and hesitance by you my friend. You think we going lose money? Not if we always answer no. Lie my bruddah. You never learn anything from the girls all these years. The only way to make money in one kb is lie. Must I think of everything!But I going chance um! If dey see we confident we no going lose the 1k, dey going be scad to use our service. Got to give dem the heads we win, tails you lose chance! I not Level 2 STUPID for notin you know.

Oldee
05-23-11, 03:58
So I guess not many of you went bar this weekend? Judging by here and the other thread, not much going on? I seen the usual same ole same ole guys buy buy buy buy at every table, no action at all the tables I seen. I guess only Headlock, SS, ILTW and me got even a little action this weekend? My score was only 1 tittie and 1 ass grab, thats it, and had my hand slapped too. Goes to show the pickings are slim.

MidLifeWinning
05-23-11, 14:16
BWAHAHAHA! YOU GUYS ARE HILARIOUS!

I couldn't help but crawl out from under my lurking rock and sign up. Good job buddies. Now I can blame you for giving me the disease.

I don't get out much and just one baby to the game but I actually ended up at Camelot this weekend. To check out one of ILTW's wives? Nope, more in hopes of running into one of you, NO HOMO. Honestly, I was just happen to be in the area and not one perving stalker. No be sked, I not into guys. But if you one hot chick you better get the restraining order ready.

I was hoping to see three guys laughing their asses off at the bar and having a blast. Instead nah-ting. Pretty boring and tame. Maybe I was to early, to late or you guys aren't like what you are there as you are here on the forum. Maybe you guys undercover lover boys at the bar so you won't be outed. I learning. Secret.

So here's my application to the school of Hard Luck. Please continue teaching this padawan with your torpedoes of truth. For I represent the silent majority.

Iliketowatch
05-23-11, 14:39
So I guess not many of you went bar this weekend? Judging by here and the other thread, not much going on? I seen the usual same ole same ole guys buy buy buy buy at every table, no action at all the tables I seen. I guess only Headlock, SS, ILTW and me got even a little action this weekend? My score was only 1 tittie and 1 ass grab, thats it, and had my hand slapped too. Goes to show the pickings are slim.The Kaps area was real slow. Even kalihi. Will probably stay away from the bars for a while. Getting bored with the same old same old, and get plenty graduation commitments. Got to fire up the imu and try snag some tako. Stay safe guys. Blue lights during this time of year.

Uki Eater
05-23-11, 15:40
On a different note. Ever notice how the kbg's hate the korean guys. They complain they get treated like sh*t. But when they don't get treated like sh*t they no feel you care enough. What's up with this? Any Dr. Phils out there? Oh sorry, maybe you should reply on Oldee's thread.These women like the emotional rollercoaster ride. They get treated badly and then get treated nice. I knew a girl who got physically abused by her bf. I know most people (including myself) wonder,"why do you stay with him?" She said: "because I love him. Plus, the making up part. When we kiss and makeup, the sex is very intense" It's male dominance and authority over a woman. A guy who has anger would be perceived as someone who would give intense passionate sex.

One of the qualities of being the bad boy. Treat the woman like crap. Turns women on. The nice guys like you said, they are overly to nice. It doesn't stir up womens emotions. With bad boys, the women need to earn their affection.

Iliketowatch
05-23-11, 17:04
These women like the emotional rollercoaster ride. They get treated badly and then get treated nice. I knew a girl who got physically abused by her bf. I know most people (including myself) wonder,"why do you stay with him?" She said: "because I love him. Plus, the making up part. When we kiss and makeup, the sex is very intense" It's male dominance and authority over a woman. A guy who has anger would be perceived as someone who would give intense passionate sex.

One of the qualities of being the bad boy. Treat the woman like crap. Turns women on. The nice guys like you said, they are overly to nice. It doesn't stir up womens emotions. With bad boys, the women need to earn their affection.Maybe that's why I still here in the kb scene even when I rate koreans so low on my sex thrill list. I must believe the psycho will give me psycho sex. The live wire. But so far no luck. Only burnt fuses. Maybe I bringing my 110 plug and I should be packing on 220. But the older you get, the less juice runs thru your wires. Chalk one down for the old guy. This new generation just passing me by. Like when my friend tell me to help him fix his car. I show up with all my chilton's and he say,"what, no need that, I get computer diagnosis software", you living in the past. Maybe got to give them what they want. Where's my caveman club. No call the cops when see one guy dragging a bg on the floor by the hair across the bar to the back booths. She likes it that way. And I will buy her a make up drink after pau.

Iliketowatch
05-23-11, 19:34
Eh, Iltw, at least I wasnt the one asking how to edit a post like someone I know, his name start with I.No tease me just because I no have geeks skills. Took me long time for learn my jobs estimating software, but eventually I when ace them. If you teach, I will learn, not like some people I know in the bars. By the way, you think I can get one part time security job at the apple store? Think I can impress them if I email my resume with my name spelled iLTW. They get one thing for I's you know. I know you know no like Chinese, but the Chinese one at butterfly, stay loosening up lately. Sexy eyes with horse mouth. You know her. I like try Chinese take out with leftovers the next day. %'s increased. She one loner. Wish me luck.

Oldee
05-23-11, 20:15
BWAHAHAHA! YOU GUYS ARE HILARIOUS!

I couldn't help but crawl out from under my lurking rock and sign up. Good job buddies. Now I can blame you for giving me the disease.

I don't get out much and just one baby to the game but I actually ended up at Camelot this weekend. To check out one of ILTW's wives? Nope, more in hopes of running into one of you, NO HOMO. Honestly, I was just happen to be in the area and not one perving stalker. No be sked, I not into guys. But if you one hot chick you better get the restraining order ready.

I was hoping to see three guys laughing their asses off at the bar and having a blast. Instead nah-ting. Pretty boring and tame. Maybe I was to early, to late or you guys aren't like what you are there as you are here on the forum. Maybe you guys undercover lover boys at the bar so you won't be outed. I learning. Secret.

So here's my application to the school of Hard Luck. Please continue teaching this padawan with your torpedoes of truth. For I represent the silent majority. Welcome to the party brah. You neva see the hot chick with portable fan walking around? Fat and hot. That was ILTW. Eh, ILTW, you get one nodda fan! Oh, I actually mo handsome den brad pitt, maybe das why you miss me. Uki was singing karaoke seranating brian. Eh, no be late fo school tommorow ah. We get planny lessons and homework to give you. First homework, NO BE SILENT!

Iliketowatch
05-23-11, 21:22
I don't get out much and just one baby to the game but I actually ended up at Camelot this weekend.Never go camelot this weekend but did stop by damour. Saw several chicks from the camelot brew there. Wonder if no could make enough money at "C". You know the young girls thinking nowadays. The money is always greener on the other side. Or maybe patty mama's ad claim that you can make $10, 000 each night for just sitting next to one pabo customer, is actually false advertising. Where's the BBB when you need them. No get excited Oldee. I never meaning the Bare Ball B*tches.

Iliketowatch
05-23-11, 21:26
Welcome to the party brah. You neva see the hot chick with portable fan walking around? Fat and hot. That was ILTW.That wasn't one portable fan. Was one industrial model. The buggah just when look small next to my frame. If you was paying attention, everyone was tripping over the cord. Watch, don't just look.

Oldee
05-23-11, 22:28
Ok class, settle down, today's homework involves close quarter manuneuvering. Your targets? Titties, Ass, and Nani. Now repeat after me 10 times, 'got to work the mojo before I buy the neko'. Hey you reading dis, no cheat! You wen say them just once. No can fool the teacha, we learned from the best kbgs in history! Your mission should you decide to accept it is to grab 1 of the 3 prizes BEFORE you buy neko at your favorite bar. Oh yeah, known play girls NO COUNT. Who's up for being an A student today?

Jj6969
05-23-11, 23:13
Ok class, settle down, today's homework involves close quarter manuneuvering. Your targets? Titties, Ass, and Nani. Now repeat after me 10 times, 'got to work the mojo before I buy the neko'. Hey you reading dis, no cheat! You wen say them just once. No can fool the teacha, we learned from the best kbgs in history! Your mission should you decide to accept it is to grab 1 of the 3 prizes BEFORE you buy neko at your favorite bar. Oh yeah, known play girls NO COUNT. Who's up for being an A student today?Yes sounds very good. As the old saying goes "the best defense is a good offense" so try and get the upper hand.

Iliketowatch
05-23-11, 23:27
Ok class, settle down, today's homework involves close quarter manuneuvering. Your targets? Titties, Ass, and Nani. Now repeat after me 10 times, 'got to work the mojo before I buy the neko'. Hey you reading dis, no cheat! You wen say them just once. No can fool the teacha, we learned from the best kbgs in history! Your mission should you decide to accept it is to grab 1 of the 3 prizes BEFORE you buy neko at your favorite bar. Oh yeah, known play girls NO COUNT. Who's up for being an A student today?When my mother come to pick me up from the principle's office because I got expelled, I going rat on you Oldee. Boy, why you when goose the lady with the hairnet? Oldee said can, so long I buy her one milk after.

Iliketowatch
05-24-11, 01:29
Enter bar. Go to well and order your own drink. Sit at table and wait for your gf. When she arrives, let her rob you as usual. 1st tactic. Notice how long it takes between drinks. Very important to remember. OK. 1 minute you say. Nah, only joking. Not true right? If true, stop reading and see Oldee. If more than 1 minute, continue reading. After being the village bank teller for a while. When she returns from hopping tables. Tell her. Wait, remember what I told you not to forget. OK, you say she drink every 10 minutes. Tell her, look at that guy (point to any random fool) , and say, he so stupid, that girl just taking advantage of him. He buying her drinks every 10 MINUTES (remember) and sometimes she even bring one drink before he say OK. That girl must be one professional bargirl. Only out for money. Shut up. Stare at her eyes and wait for her answer. Silence is not one answer. Look of shock is not one answer. Fear in her eyes is not one answer. Mumbling is not one answer. Ah ah ah ah is not one answer. The only correct answer is,"hey babe, lets get out of here, we go your place, I like F your brains out (before you find out what I really doing to you). Portion in parentheses will not be audible, she's only thinking that. Any other answer she gives you will be exactly what she is doing to you. Freud said in a moment of panic, one looks to their own experiences to justify one's uncomfortableness. She will let you read her mind with her response. Oh, but it's her job to get drinks, means it's your babes job is to get drinks from you. Oh, she wants mama to see she's busy, mean she want mama to see your babes is busy. She might to distance herself from the other girls and say, She's a be*tch, it means your babes a ***** too. Bet you she won't say, it's because she loves him. Bet, bet, bet? Any takers? 1 case heiny? What would you say if you were in her shoes? One word of caution. If you mistakenly point to me. The girl will know you lying cause all the girls know if she with me, she shame go get one drink with her panties down by her ankles. She stuck til I pau my business.

Lumpia808
05-24-11, 01:42
So I guess not many of you went bar this weekend? Judging by here and the other thread, not much going on? I seen the usual same ole same ole guys buy buy buy buy at every table, no action at all the tables I seen. I guess only Headlock, SS, ILTW and me got even a little action this weekend? My score was only 1 tittie and 1 ass grab, thats it, and had my hand slapped too. Goes to show the pickings are slim.I went out this past weekend. The "highlight" of the night was I got to hold hands and got to check how firm the top part of a melon was.

Low part was at a certain place, I'm kind of on an unoffical "black" list, LOL. And suprisingly it's not the place where I thought it would be.

Iliketowatch
05-24-11, 03:08
Now that school break is here, my nephew is home for the summer. He needs a summer job. I am acting as his agent. Hawaiian, Chinese, italian, german, and I forget the rest. 6'.1". Body of a olympic swimmer. Attitude of a bad boy. He get one collection of armani shirts any girl would die over. Any loverboys want to know the truth. For a mere $1, 000 he will give you the answer. Just let me know which bar you're at, what day, what time, and what you wearing. We will be there. After subtle eye contact with you. Meet him in the restroom to exchange the cash. No worry, he not going rob you. I going be there in the muu muu selling my fried chicken fo make sure everything on the up and up. Sit with your lover and he will sit at the next table. I will tell the waiter to send over your honey to his table. He will buy her a bottle of fake shoju $140. He will do this 1 more time within the half hour $280 total. When he starts to buy her one more bottle, he will hesitate and say,"The guy over there (you) just staring at us. What, he your boyfriend? Listen carefully. She will say,"No". He will say,"You only playing with him to get drinks". Listen carefully. She will say,"Yes". He will say,"I no like buy you more shoju unless you like be my gf". Listen carefully. She will say,"OK". Still no believe me. Think she just lying to get drinks. He will tell her to leave now with him to have sex. Watch carefully. She will leave. $20 tip for the waiter, $300 total. And you will have your answer and free fried chicken from me. Did she really just leave with the stud to have sex. You'l never really know. But you don't really know anyways, so what's the difference. If you impressed, don't read any further. He could have just told her to have coffee with him at starbucks and he will pay her $500 dollars for her troubles, $800 total. $100 for him, $100 for me, $1, 000 total. If you still reading. Do you want to know the truth, or are you happy living a lie? And Oldee, if you like half my $100, you going have to bring the fried chicken. KFC OK, these guys pabo, they not going know I never fry them myself. Just hide the box.

Iliketowatch
05-24-11, 04:31
Hey Oldee. You know that Saturday nights are the worst night to try and take one kbg home for sex."Why", you ask. Because they have to go to church the next morning. Where you going with this ILTW you wonder. If a kbg goes home with you for sex on a Saturday night, she will be an atheist."So", you say. Ever tried to keep one hard on when she keep screaming,"Oh my evolution, here I cum". Just a joke someone told me.

My birthday came and went. Another year older. My mom when ask me what I want for my be-day gift this year. I when point out the window to my rust on wheels. I told her maybe something shiny that goes 0 to 300 in 2 seconds flat. When I woke up the next morning and when check the garage. She when buy me one scale.

Dragons76
05-24-11, 09:13
Ok class, settle down, today's homework involves close quarter manuneuvering. Your targets? Titties, Ass, and Nani. Now repeat after me 10 times, 'got to work the mojo before I buy the neko'. Hey you reading dis, no cheat! You wen say them just once. No can fool the teacha, we learned from the best kbgs in history! Your mission should you decide to accept it is to grab 1 of the 3 prizes BEFORE you buy neko at your favorite bar. Oh yeah, known play girls NO COUNT. Who's up for being an A student today?Haha I never did too good in school I cut too much class. I hope these BGs no tell you guys that I stay cutting class just to get play. I don't like to just touch I want to PLAY hehe! So if the class (bar) is boring I going to cut out and end up at a AMP.

Uki Eater
05-24-11, 14:10
Never go camelot this weekend but did stop by damour. Saw several chicks from the camelot brew there. Wonder if no could make enough money at "C". You know the young girls thinking nowadays. The money is always greener on the other side. Or maybe patty mama's ad claim that you can make $10, 000 each night for just sitting next to one pabo customer, is actually false advertising. Where's the BBB when you need them. No get excited Oldee. I never meaning the Bare Ball B*tches.I see these Camelhoe BGs at other bars. I guess to display themselves and attract a different crowd. No customers? Call up / text the regulars or guys she sat with before to spend 10, 000 drinks. Hehe. Tellum: "I miss you honey! Come see me"

Oldee
05-24-11, 14:18
Haha I never did too good in school I cut too much class. I hope these BGs no tell you guys that I stay cutting class just to get play. I don't like to just touch I want to PLAY hehe! So if the class (bar) is boring I going to cut out and end up at a AMP.In this school, you get extra credit for creativity and hornyhess. Congrats on your first A!

Iliketowatch
05-24-11, 16:07
For every action, there is a equal reaction. In short, Liars hang with liars. Whoa, all you loverboys out there, no get all huffy at ILTW. You say you not like that. You one good boy, gentleman, just trying to help out one girl who's experiencing hard times. Yeah, right. You just fooling yourself. Liars attract liars. When you sit a the table for one hour before your love come sit with you, and she say,"Sorry I took so long sweetie". You say,"Oh, I didn't mind". Liar! When she say,"Sorry I got to go back to the other table". You say,"That's OK". Liar! When she say,"Sorry I neva call you today". You say,"That's OK, I was busy anyways". Liar! When she say,"My big spender customer when take me to lunch today, you not jealous huh?" You say,"I no jealous, that's good business sense". Liar! A liar will always seek another liar. That's what draws you to her. You've failed in the real world, because women were brutally honest about your chances to score with them. Honest women with liar loser = no chance to connect. It's not your dorky look, or your clumsy actions, or your look of desperation. It's because your a liar. What if the kbg said,"You here again loser, what you that love deprived?" or "You looking extra lonely tonight pervert, I expect 10 drinks" or "Why do you virgins think you can bribe your way into my heart". You think you would still be chasing her? If you said yes, see Oldee. If you said no. It's because liars can't be with truth tellers. Now your turn. Hey be*tch your dress looks like a goodwill prom reject, making me dizzy, let me F you now before I throw up. Good. Give me more. I sitting here in the corner cause I like one BJ, not because I never find one table in the lighted area, so start your vacuum, wh*re. You're on a roll now. Hey clueless, the only reason I try play nice is to get in your panties, so stop asking me for drinks and spread them. Bring it home, dude. The only reason one awkward guy like me never had one gf in my whole life is because, my roommate when post on the internet one picture of me "F"ing one lau lau. Good job. Think one liar girl going want to hang around one truth telling guy? When lau lau's fly. No bruddah, get down from the ladder, I trying to make one important point here. Stop lying to yourself already. The truth will set you "free". Meaning "free" to be lonely again. But sucker-free! I when just save you some big bucks you know. You should be thanking me. The price of lau lau stay way up now, cause stay graduation season.

Uki Eater
05-24-11, 18:21
Should have a poll on people that go hostess bars. Just for fun.

A. Go to get affection and mental stimulation with a BG. Possible love.

B. Go to get touchy feely / play and possible sex.

C. Go to impress, boast and show off to the bar and women at the bar.

D. Go to hangout, look at eye candy (if any) and see which guy at the bar is a member from the forum.

E. All of the above

Iliketowatch
05-24-11, 19:04
Should have a poll on people that go hostess bars. Just for fun.

A. Go to get affection and mental stimulation with a BG. Possible love.

B. Go to get touchy feely / play and possible sex.

C. Go to impress, boast and show off to the bar and women at the bar.

D. Go to hangout, look at eye candy (if any) and see which guy at the bar is a member from the forum.

E. All of the aboveI"ll just quietly say F. Drink beer cause cheaper than the local bars. Hang out with guys my age who also losing their hair. And try to remember the good old days. Yes the good old days of legs up in the air. What's that I smell? Fresh p*ssy? Nope, wrong again. It's just the stench of more bars closing.

Iliketowatch
05-24-11, 19:38
All the karaoke guys asking me for jobs, because they getting replaced by organ players. Mori asking me if I know how to bake, cause only request lately is for cakes. The waiters wearing light blue tuxedos so they no look out of place. The bar backs having to throw rose pedals to stay busy. All because Miki Mama when get this great idea for use her stage to hold kb weddings. One stop shopping. Now all the mamas like get into the action. ILTW's crusade, to halt the rail, fails because the county workers now rule the bars. No more Maya's Liars. No more Camel Toe. No more Please Moon Me Flower. No more Butter Face. No more Loser 8. No more Phor Phuck at Pharoah. No more Napa Fake Double D's Valley. No more D' A Moron. No more Beware These Girl's Are In Their Twilight Years. And no need even go vegas for the honeymoon. Might even get chance one Casino to open up again. What is a monger to do? Especially one guy who no like dress up for the occasion just to have a beer. Think ILTW. Think. Anybody like go half half in one limo service? With 10 weddings a night, we can score. I can put one campa on my pick up, and charge the fools $1,000. They going pay, once a fool, always a fool.

Oldee
05-24-11, 20:48
Hey, Uki, you forgot the biggest group, F- don't know but hoping can get SOMETHING, usually hoping to score with SHE DIFFERENT GIRL! I get good news for you guys! This is no Bullshit too. YOU ARE HER GIRLFRIEND! No joke! BAR BOYFRIEND but she IS your girlfriend none the less. I know, don't worry, your girl is DIFFERENT. She's nice, good heart, drink slow, good service, etc. That's her, RIGHT? The SPECIAL one. Pure as white snow. The girl you been searching for and you have a special 'connection'. When I scan the bar, thats the majority of bargirls I see. There is only 1 thing you don't like about that girl. You havnt had sex with her YET! Sorry bro, you never will. Don't think so? Want to bet? When you make her your REAL GIRLFRIEND you say or WIFE? Want to bet on that too? I even give you 10 to 1 odds in your favor. Sound harsh yeah? Bro, we are actually on YOUR SIDE! I know doesn't sound like it but we ARE. Its called WIN-WIN. You get what you want, we get what we want, everyone happy. But you want and love her you say, so how can be? There is SOMEONE for everyone and we want to point you in that direction, less heartache, money, and stress. There is also a side BONUS, MORE SEX an FUN! So come on over to the dark side, LOL. If not, may the FORCE be with you.

Oldee
05-24-11, 23:30
Hey ILTW, I wondering if MAYBE, your message is getting through to some guys, seeing as bars slow but get lots of forum viewers. I know, wishful thinking, but you never know bro. I'm guessing you helped more than a couple guys in one way or other. I like to read your posts for the laughs and guessing most guys do too. Of course we must piss off some kbgs and loverboy lurkers but we only trying to help them too. Well, at least the guys. LOL. BTW, if you one kbg reading this, I just picked a new high tech camera that sees who reads here through the screen. When you read here, i see you. Super high tech cia camera. Wow! You look so different without makeup! No worry I still would screw you, just make sure you put your make up on good. Oldee scans the camera to the left, Hi there honey, I didn't know you wear glasses! Oldee scans right, oh wow, you sure that dress going match your style? I love this camera! Anybody like borrow? I rent it out for 20bucks a kbg you see. I know, expensive cause get planny girls but worth it. Garans you find your honey and see her when she stay home. Eh you over dea, I neva like see your hard on with you thinking of the possibilltys getting cum all over my new camera. Loverboys and kbgs, pm me it you like rent it, for now, me and ILTW catching our jollies WATCHING everybody. Betta den going bar.

Uki Eater
05-25-11, 00:11
For every action, there is a equal reaction. In short, Liars hang with liars. Whoa, all you loverboys out there, no get all huffy at ILTW. You say you not like that. You one good boy, gentleman, just trying to help out one girl who's experiencing hard times. Yeah, right. You just fooling yourself. Liars attract liars. When you sit a the table for one hour before your love come sit with you, and she say,"Sorry I took so long sweetie". You say,"Oh, I didn't mind". Liar! When she say,"Sorry I got to go back to the other table". You say,"That's OK". Liar! When she say,"Sorry I neva call you today". You say,"That's OK, I was busy anyways". Liar! When she say,"My big spender customer when take me to lunch today, you not jealous huh?" You say,"I no jealous, that's good business sense". Liar! A liar will always seek another liar. That's what draws you to her. You've failed in the real world, because women were brutally honest about your chances to score with them. Honest women with liar loser = no chance to connect. It's not your dorky look, or your clumsy actions, or your look of desperation. It's because your a liar. What if the kbg said,"You here again loser, what you that love deprived?" or "You looking extra lonely tonight pervert, I expect 10 drinks" or "Why do you virgins think you can bribe your way into my heart". You think you would still be chasing her? If you said yes, see Oldee. If you said no. It's because liars can't be with truth tellers. Now your turn. Hey be*tch your dress looks like a goodwill prom reject, making me dizzy, let me F you now before I throw up. Good. Give me more. I sitting here in the corner cause I like one BJ, not because I never find one table in the lighted area, so start your vacuum, wh*re. You're on a roll now. Hey clueless, the only reason I try play nice is to get in your panties, so stop asking me for drinks and spread them. Bring it home, dude. The only reason one awkward guy like me never had one gf in my whole life is because, my roommate when post on the internet one picture of me "F"ing one lau lau. Good job. Think one liar girl going want to hang around one truth telling guy? When lau lau's fly. No bruddah, get down from the ladder, I trying to make one important point here. Stop lying to yourself already. The truth will set you "free". Meaning "free" to be lonely again. But sucker-free! I when just save you some big bucks you know. You should be thanking me. The price of lau lau stay way up now, cause stay graduation season.I enjoyed reading this. In fact, ill be honest. I was among those liars. The BG that I like before and also other BGs I sat with, I didn't want to show that I'm bothered when they leave. So, when they leave, I'm like: "Fuckin shit! Where she went? Waiting here so long already" Then, when she comes back, I make all nice guy. Lots of guys are like this. Even my friend them do this. He starts nagging about her but, then breaks a smile when she comes back and apologized. Seriously now, the women know when men are bothered but, they (men) try sugarcoat their anger. Prime example of trying to be the nice guy 24/7. I once heard from a female say: "If a guy tries to be too perfect, we know they hiding something" That is true. Women know men have flaws. So, why they trying to be perfect when they aren't? Heh, they just making themselves look more bad.

Oldee
05-25-11, 00:25
Now that school break is here, my nephew is home for the summer. He needs a summer job. I am acting as his agent. Hawaiian, Chinese, italian, german, and I forget the rest. 6'.1". Body of a olympic swimmer. Attitude of a bad boy. He get one collection of armani shirts any girl would die over. Any loverboys want to know the truth. For a mere $1, 000 he will give you the answer. Just let me know which bar you're at, what day, what time, and what you wearing. We will be there. After subtle eye contact with you. Meet him in the restroom to exchange the cash. No worry, he not going rob you. I going be there in the muu muu selling my fried chicken fo make sure everything on the up and up. Sit with your lover and he will sit at the next table. I will tell the waiter to send over your honey to his table. He will buy her a bottle of fake shoju $140. He will do this 1 more time within the half hour $280 total. When he starts to buy her one more bottle, he will hesitate and say,"The guy over there (you) just staring at us. What, he your boyfriend? Listen carefully. She will say,"No". He will say,"You only playing with him to get drinks". Listen carefully. She will say,"Yes". He will say,"I no like buy you more shoju unless you like be my gf". Listen carefully. She will say,"OK". Still no believe me. Think she just lying to get drinks. He will tell her to leave now with him to have sex. Watch carefully. She will leave. $20 tip for the waiter, $300 total. And you will have your answer and free fried chicken from me. Did she really just leave with the stud to have sex. You'l never really know. But you don't really know anyways, so what's the difference. If you impressed, don't read any further. He could have just told her to have coffee with him at starbucks and he will pay her $500 dollars for her troubles, $800 total. $100 for him, $100 for me, $1, 000 total. If you still reading. Do you want to know the truth, or are you happy living a lie? And Oldee, if you like half my $100, you going have to bring the fried chicken. KFC OK, these guys pabo, they not going know I never fry them myself. Just hide the box.Can just put shoyu on chicken Mcnuggets?

Iliketowatch
05-25-11, 00:34
Hey ILTW, I wondering if MAYBE, your message is getting through to some guys, seeing as bars slow but get lots of forum viewers. I know, wishful thinking, but you never know bro. I'm guessing you helped more than a couple guys in one way or other. I like to read your posts for the laughs and guessing most guys do too. Of course we must piss off some kbgs and loverboy lurkers but we only trying to help them too. Well, at least the guys. LOL.I know I ticking off plenty guys. But I would tell you like it is in a local bar, nightclub, on the street, whereevas. I would hope you would do the same for me. If you want to know if you getting played, and I know, I will tell you. It ain't one kb thing. It ain't just one korean thing. It's a guy thing. And again. If you were asked as many times as me, while sitting at the bar, just watching, hey bruddah, what you think of her. It would start to get on your nerves too. Maybe I look friendly. Maybe I look harmless. Remember, I'm a watcher, not a talker. But if you like me talk, then listen. No tell me I don't know what I talking about after you ask for my opinion. Any opposite response from you, is just you trying to convince yourself, not really seeking someone's insight. Just pick someone who has the same opinion as you. Ask another kbg. Then you'll get the answer you want. Not the truth. Just confirmation. Your correct response would have been,"That's an interesting point of view". And just think to yourself,"you don't know squat fat sh*t". I can't read your mind so I can just enjoy my beer. And you can go your way. If she becomes your gf or wife and you happy, then doesn't matter what I say. But if you get burned and don't want it to happen again. My words are free for your viewing, or scroll away. The sooner you start looking for only sex in the bars and love outside the bars, the sooner you'll find what you down deep know you're really after. We only sell lust here. Since you so caught up in what I don't know. I don't know a single person who when succeed selling lie detectors to one politicians. I don't know one guy who when succeed selling extra small shirts to hawaiians (I part hawaiian, so I can tease). I don't know a single person, that did't work in the biz, who has ever said,"Bruddah you when strike out in love in the real world, I think you get better chance in the KB's". That's what I don't know.

Iliketowatch
05-25-11, 00:44
If the only reason you are here in the kb's is because it's easy to meet someone, then maybe you should be working on your meeting skills. And stop working on your, say no skills with out hurting her feelings. The sooner you figure out why your here, the sooner you'll the sooner you'll figure out why you shouldn't be.

Iliketowatch
05-25-11, 00:51
Prime example of trying to be the nice guy 24/7. I once heard from a female say: "If a guy tries to be too perfect, we know they hiding something" That is true. Women know men have flaws. So, why they trying to be perfect when they aren't? Heh, they just making themselves look more bad.And the major catch 22 is, if you to perfect for her, she feels you too good for her. She cannot live up to your expectations and values. You will intimidate her with goodness. Bad match in her mind. She cannot just be herself because your standards too goody. Women!

Iliketowatch
05-25-11, 01:17
Can just put shoyu on chicken Mcnuggets?Nobody contacting me. No one get stones? I no mean the kind that hurt like hell when you piss. I mean the saltwater swimming pool war memorial kind. Nads. No one get balls to know the truth. Like the guy no get prostate exam. He rather not know, even if he could be helped. The KB's are for the unknown. If you see someone in the real world, eventually she will tell you if things not working out. In the bars, she'll never tell you. So no news is good news in the bars. But very dangerous, your pupus could be shoyu on mcnggets. Right Oldee?

Oldee
05-25-11, 04:22
I enjoyed reading this. In fact, ill be honest. I was among those liars. ALL kb goers been there, done that Uki, the difference is you learned. Most guys that sit with bgirls are liars and obedient dogs. They wag their tail when she's sitting with him, sad when she table hops to sit with other dogs, wags tail again when she repeats cycle. The difference between the liar dog and a real dog is the real dog gets more attention and is really loved (even the bulldog named watcher). MOST guys sitting with bgirls are liar dogs. Who you think the girls rather sit with, us or the liar dogs? THATS why alot of guys have resentment, not personally at those guys but the situation. It used to be MUCH CHEAPER and MUCH EASIER to get play. In fact, thats why we went when not chasing civilians. CHEAP PLAY. These liar dogs get robbed, get no play, buy gifts, sometimes get physically and mentally abused and STILL GO BACK for more. Night after night, the loyal liar dog is at her command. Want to see a liar dog up close? Look at the bar mirror when the bgirl sits next to you. Not you? Then its probably the first guy you see sitting with a bar girl. But you say thats most guys in the bar! NOW youre getting the picture. All you liar dogs please don't take offense, I was one of you afterall. Now I'm just a horny dog. I have found that often times you need to set off an atomic bomb under your buddys ass to get him out of lust is blind.

Uki Eater
05-25-11, 05:26
I know I ticking off plenty guys. But I would tell you like it is in a local bar, nightclub, on the street, whereevas. I would hope you would do the same for me. If you want to know if you getting played, and I know, I will tell you.Hehe. I'm sure some people won't take your posts lightly. But, I got to admit, after hearing and listening to alot of people both men and women getting burned, I learned alot from them. I can see where you're coming from. You just don't want others to go through the same thing. That's basically it. Nothing wrong with that. That's how I learned, from people that tell it like it is. Learn to not get burned. I like this saying: "It's not how much advice you give that makes you wise, it's when you're willing to take advice"

Oldee
05-25-11, 06:44
Hehe. I'm sure some people won't take your posts lightly. But, I got to admit, after hearing and listening to alot of people both men and women getting burned, I learned alot from them. I can see where you're coming from. You just don't want others to go through the same thing. That's basically it. Nothing wrong with that. That's how I learned, from people that tell it like it is. Learn to not get burned. I like this saying: "It's not how much advice you give that makes you wise, it's when you're willing to take advice"Actually, I know alot of guys are pissed, as well as and especially the bargirls. They probably hate us bigtime, LOL. I don't hate back babes-). Sometimes ILTW can really turn it on and twist the samurai sword so I'm quite certain thats why we have only the sex seekers so far posting. For the other guys. Their silence must be fustrating for them also. Why? Because they know the truth when they hear it and STILL refuse to believe it. But not enough faith in their own beliefs to respond here with a post. Its ok, to each his own. We got at least MLW from the silent majority to post which means guys are reading. To be honest, I think most guys just can't be bothered to post which is ok. They may not even be interested in reading whats posted, just that they may click ANY new post, LOL. Then get the no like share and know everything already guys. They not going post, thats ok too. IF you guys learned anything, I wish you guys would post that you did tho. It gives more incentive to posters to continue posting.

John Ross
05-25-11, 07:05
Sitting at the bar I hear so much shit coming out of some guy's mouths it is unbelievable! Some are obedient lap dogs while others are in need of a service dog. These guys are so blind and in love with these women it is pathetic. I feel like telling them to wake up as it is just a dream. Actually, I'd like to slap some sense into them, but my energy will be wasted. They will learn in time, but not after being burned a few times. If they don't learn, someone should shoot them and put them out of their misery.

Be yourself, be an ass, but don't be a pushover and kowtow to these women.

Aflack
05-25-11, 10:24
These guys are so blind and in love with these women it is pathetic. They will learn in time, but not after being burned a few times. If they don't learn, someone should shoot them and put them out of their misery.

Be yourself, be an ass, but don't be a pushover and kowtow to these women.We were raised to not 'lie, cheat, & steal' and yet others make a living doing these very things; arguably the second oldest profession. Since the KBGs practice the first and second oldest professions they are the dregs and scorn of society. Ah. The power of the poji (but not worth losing your dignity & kala). Venus Flytraps all.

Oldee
05-25-11, 16:30
Remember how I counted bar customers on a Friday just for kicks? Now I can see our chance to spread ILTW's cancer as its as good a time as I've ever seen. I thought last year was real slow but this year even worse. The pickings are slim and I bet there's less than 10girls from kalihi to pc worth sitting with. Like alot of you, I wait patiently for ILTW's posts for both laughs and info, usually valuable info. Eh ILTW, post planny ah, you get choke fans you know (at least 2). Guys, now's the time to tell your friends to get MORE play for less money. BTW, although I generally see things the same way as ILTW, not everything. Thats a good thing otherwise boring and canot learn. For example the loverboys I don't think are mostly virgins or never had a gf. Or even have no social skills. Yeah, get planny of the ones he describes but they not even half the loverboys I see. I know, I know, he just making a point and don't mean all too but he left out lots of guys who are in the loverboy catergory. Alot of them are otherwise intelligent in every way but morons with the kbgs. These are the guys probably most pissed at our posts, hehe. They probably thinking ILTW's posts don't apply to them so may not take his message to heart. Now is a good time to make the girls work for their money. I don't want any bars to close, just change their customer service policy. No play? Don't pay! What do you guys think?

Uki Eater
05-25-11, 17:06
Alot of them are otherwise intelligent in every way but morons with the kbgs. These are the guys probably most pissed at our posts, hehe. They probably thinking ILTW's posts don't apply to them so may not take his message to heart.I'm sure alot of guys are intelligent in their own unique way. If they can afford to spend at hostess bars, they are intelligent to be able to make the money and spend the money at the bars. They are skilled and talented in their own way. A guy maybe confident in his abilities to be good in his profession. However, there's different levels of confidence.

Just because someone's confident in building a home or fixing a car, writing a software program etc, it doesn't mean he's confident in everything else. He may not be confident in public speaking, or confident with women. I feel noone is confident in every aspect. There are areas that each of us are not that confident in.

Some guys feel that because of their education level or status, they don't need any advice. I know guys can be stubborn and hard headed. Some people have this thinking: "You don't have to tell me, I know what I doing" Ever came across those types? I have. Alot of them. Like the saying: "they maybe booksmart but they not streetsmart"

Sik Dj Gugu
05-25-11, 20:14
Don't want to step on the toes of some of the fellows here but I would have to disagree that sex should be the ONLY reason to come to a KB. Of course the male hormones in each of us would never give up the opportunity to ravage a kbg's body if given the chance but there are times when I walk out without play but still pretty happy and content with the time I spent with a nice bg.

I agree that it would be extremely foolish to fall in love with a bg based on the same reasons everyone has said but if we can accept that fact, and set goals to just 'enjoy the night in the company of someone fun', then I think that's a justifiable reason to go. Like, going out on a nice date with a girl going to cost you $$ and both the guy and girl probably just pretending to be someone else cause we're never who we actually are when we first meet someone. Yet somehow you walk away pretty happy as long as she wasn't all sour faced and there was lots of laughter and maybe light touching.

I try not to sit with the same girl too often cause I enjoy the whole 'fake first date' feeling that I get when sitting with someone new. Again, sex would be great but even without it, I leave thinking my 3-4 drinks for her was still a bargain.

Iliketowatch
05-25-11, 21:01
Don't want to step on the toes of some of the fellows here but I would have to disagree that sex should be the ONLY reason to come to a KB. Of course the male hormones in each of us would never give up the opportunity to ravage a kbg's body if given the chance but there are times when I walk out without play but still pretty happy and content with the time I spent with a nice bg.

I agree that it would be extremely foolish to fall in love with a bg based on the same reasons everyone has said but if we can accept that fact, and set goals to just 'enjoy the night in the company of someone fun', then I think that's a justifiable reason to go. Like, going out on a nice date with a girl going to cost you $$ and both the guy and girl probably just pretending to be someone else cause we're never who we actually are when we first meet someone. Yet somehow you walk away pretty happy as long as she wasn't all sour faced and there was lots of laughter and maybe light touching.

I try not to sit with the same girl too often cause I enjoy the whole 'fake first date' feeling that I get when sitting with someone new. Again, sex would be great but even without it, I leave thinking my 3-4 drinks for her was still a bargain. Nah just teasing. And Oldee no like me scare away the posters. As much as I rag on the non-sex perv guys. My only gripe is, current clientele and their actions, lets / allows / promotes the girl's to think the kb's have room for non-playing and non-sexing girls to exist. They get comfortable with not putting out. Believe it or not, in the past, girl's who didn't play as much were the outcast among the girls. Not the opposite like today. The girl's wanted their bar to be the mega bucks of play, so all the customers would come by. So they would kick you out if you didn't. Shocker yah! Big bucks for them if everyone plays. Then the day little red riding hood started working and brought in her non-sex customer. She made money without playing. Word got around thru the korean grapevine. Then there were two, Then three. Then, BAM, the way it is now. You the outcast if you did play. Ask Yujin. I just liked it the way it used to be and any thing / one that promotes it otherwise, gets me going. I old. I hard head. I liked chunky's hot roast beef sandwich. But, I not all that pabo. It is what it is now. I can see. And we even have a no play kb, Maya's. My world got turned upside down. It's not a personal attack on any one in particular. It's an attack on the culture. The culture "these" guys created, so they get dragged in not by choice. So I agree with you 100. Not many time I give 100's you know. It's the lost of a best friend to a car accident. And the anger against the guys who manned that car, which drove this business down the current road. They when build one bypass, and when pass me by.

Rico80
05-25-11, 21:07
Don't want to step on the toes of some of the fellows here but I would have to disagree that sex should be the ONLY reason to come to a KB. Of course the male hormones in each of us would never give up the opportunity to ravage a kbg's body if given the chance but there are times when I walk out without play but still pretty happy and content with the time I spent with a nice bg.

I agree that it would be extremely foolish to fall in love with a bg based on the same reasons everyone has said but if we can accept that fact, and set goals to just 'enjoy the night in the company of someone fun', then I think that's a justifiable reason to go. Like, going out on a nice date with a girl going to cost you $$ and both the guy and girl probably just pretending to be someone else cause we're never who we actually are when we first meet someone. Yet somehow you walk away pretty happy as long as she wasn't all sour faced and there was lots of laughter and maybe light touching.

I try not to sit with the same girl too often cause I enjoy the whole 'fake first date' feeling that I get when sitting with someone new. Again, sex would be great but even without it, I leave thinking my 3-4 drinks for her was still a bargain.Funny. I was just thinking about the very same thing today. Except didn't expect to add my 2 cents.

For instance, go to AMP for the sure thing, which is for the sex.

Go to the KB's for hanging out after, chilling: sometimes getting lucky in the booths or rooms.

I do however enjoy reading this thread. It's like we are in some sort of mongerhood.

Oldee
05-25-11, 21:44
Don't want to step on the toes of some of the fellows here but I would have to disagree that sex should be the ONLY reason to come to a KB. Of course the male hormones in each of us would never give up the opportunity to ravage a kbg's body if given the chance but there are times when I walk out without play but still pretty happy and content with the time I spent with a nice bg.

I agree that it would be extremely foolish to fall in love with a bg based on the same reasons everyone has said but if we can accept that fact, and set goals to just 'enjoy the night in the company of someone fun', then I think that's a justifiable reason to go. Like, going out on a nice date with a girl going to cost you $$ and both the guy and girl probably just pretending to be someone else cause we're never who we actually are when we first meet someone. Yet somehow you walk away pretty happy as long as she wasn't all sour faced and there was lots of laughter and maybe light touching.

I try not to sit with the same girl too often cause I enjoy the whole 'fake first date' feeling that I get when sitting with someone new. Again, sex would be great but even without it, I leave thinking my 3-4 drinks for her was still a bargain. Thanks for posting bro. Yeah, everyone has a right to go for their own reasons, not just sex. I think the point of contention here is money spent and for what? If she is a great conversationalist, good service, entertaioing etc. 3-4 drinks ok throughout the night.(if you her only customer). If not, why spend that much and is her time sitting with you THAT enjoyable to keep buying? I myself go mainly for the beer and atmosphere. If guys went for sex only, bars would go out of business with all the unhappy customers. Go for your own reasons. Just don't get played and overspend. Know which girls play and which girls don't. I seen so many guys play the play game with no play girls and do conversation only with play girls. They waste time and money both cases. Just spend wisely and have fun. Oh, and be open to opportunities.

Uki Eater
05-25-11, 23:32
Don't want to step on the toes of some of the fellows here but I would have to disagree that sex should be the ONLY reason to come to a KB. Of course the male hormones in each of us would never give up the opportunity to ravage a kbg's body if given the chance but there are times when I walk out without play but still pretty happy and content with the time I spent with a nice bg.

I agree that it would be extremely foolish to fall in love with a bg based on the same reasons everyone has said but if we can accept that fact, and set goals to just 'enjoy the night in the company of someone fun', then I think that's a justifiable reason to go. Like, going out on a nice date with a girl going to cost you $$ and both the guy and girl probably just pretending to be someone else cause we're never who we actually are when we first meet someone. Yet somehow you walk away pretty happy as long as she wasn't all sour faced and there was lots of laughter and maybe light touching.

I try not to sit with the same girl too often cause I enjoy the whole 'fake first date' feeling that I get when sitting with someone new. Again, sex would be great but even without it, I leave thinking my 3-4 drinks for her was still a bargain. As far as how I look at it, I'm not looking at hostess bars primarily expecting play and sex. Nope. Why not? Because it's not always guaranteed. What I am trying to say is that I know get guys who want to get at least some play out of the BG. Especially when they don't get physical with anyone. Oh, plus they buying one to many drinks. Heh, but they shame on going about doing it. I know get guys out there not totally content to just be all social and talk story every single time with every BG. If making the move didn't work, that's ok. It's not like the fun ended if it didn't happen. No harm done. The fun was already there. But, it didn't hurt to try. Or, did it?

If you one fun loving guy, you're not dependent on the play / sex to have a good time. I'm not primarily looking at a hostess bargirl for sex if its going to cost $$$$$$ Why? Majority of the BGs no look that great to pay that amount. They not worth it to. Not that amount. If this was my main intention, might as well go straight to an AMP. Cheaper with none of the BS drama. In a hostess bar, I looking at overall fun. Like going to a disco club for fun and you not focused on the pickup and hooking up with a chick at the club. But hey, can still happen. There were times me and my friends gone hostess bars and had fun with no play. But, if you can get both social interaction and physical interaction, more fun / excitement to you. It's similar to going to an AMP and getting serviced (sex) + GFE (girl friend experience)

But, let's be serious now, if a guy sits with a pretty female with a nice body dressed in a sexy outfit with her boobs popping out, I'm pretty sure any guy would want to get physical with her in any type of way they can. But, they get intimidated by their beauty to attempt anything physical or say anything sexual. They so excited by her beauty alone to even bother. So, they settle for a clean innocent conversation with her. Deep down they thinking: "Damn, I'd love to get a piece of her! But damn, I no like her think I'm that type of guy though" Plus, she sounds too sweet and nice to consider getting physical and saying anything sexual. You fear offending her if you did. Like ILTW and Oldee mentioned earlier, The Liar Dog.

If sex or play doesn't even register in your head with any BG, then more than likely, you looking more for companionship with mental stimulation, affection and intimacy. Then, the sex comes later. That's basically how my outlook was on the BG that I really liked before.

Uki Eater
05-26-11, 15:52
Of course the male hormones in each of us would never give up the opportunity to ravage a kbg's body if given the chanceSorry to put you on the spot man. I'm not picking on you but, speaking in general to everyone. The given the chance part is basically if and when the BG gives you the go. The green light and permission from her that allows you to go ahead and get play from her. If the conversation was good and fun, more than likely, you're not going to attempt to get physical on your own free will. You'll just keep it at that and be happy and content with it. Especially, if she's the BG that you really wanted to sit with. You'll be on your best behavior. Talk nice to her and be a gentleman. Like going on a first date with a chick. But, in this case, it's at a hostess bar sitting at the booth with a BG. The booth is the dinner table.

Now, what if suddenly she brings up the topic of women's breasts and asks for your opinion on her boobs. She asks your opinion on what do you think of them. Is it too small? Needs enlarging? Then, she suddenly tells you to grab them and see what you think of them. You'll be surprised if she brings that up. Heh, more than likely, you're going to do it. Why? Because you got a definite green light from her that you can do it. You got the okay from her that you can grab it. She asked me, so of course I'm not going to mind because I got her permission.

However, what if she didn't bring this up? Would you by chance still go for it and grab it anyways? Yes? No? If no, why not? What if none of the BGs gave the obvious green light, how do you expect to get play? Or, do you draw the conclusion that there's just no play from these girls? Damn, I guess there's no play from her. Oh wells, had a good time talking story with her though. She was nice and she didn't hound for drinks. But, deep down, if you could, would you? Frick yah, you would. Let me go on the forum, maybe someone else got play. If he did, at least I have a better idea that she does.

More than likely, the BGs you want to sit with and find attractive won't give out the obvious signs that easily. The green light. The raunchy ones would though. Heh, how do these ones look though? That's the challenge for some of the guys going hostess bar, to see if they can make her play despite not seeing any green light from her. You don't wait for the green light. You work your mojo and initiate the move to see how far you can go. If she gave you the green light, that wouldn't be much of a challenge. It was too easy. It's like you won money and willing to spend it all because you didn't work hard for it.

If you're able to lower her defenses, magnify the attraction level inside of her, then she'll be more willing to allow play from her. When you do, feels good. Cannot deny that it doesn't. It's like picking a padlock and you was able to open it without the key. With her, you was able to unlock her defense mechanism. It's winning the prize (her) that feels good. It's like you won a prize at the carnival because you beat the game. Pau! You just want to yell: "Fuck yah! Plenty people were lookin to when I won that prize!"

No feel bad if anyone waits for the green light. Lots of guys are like this. I was like that to and still am sometimes. The BGs you don't care for, you wouldn't mind because you don't care what happens. Even if she smacks you and shove you off the booth. Hehe. But, for the ones you're interested in, you'll be more behaved. You wouldn't want to freak her out and scare her. I know guys get their pride and no like make A.

Neukd
05-26-11, 19:58
For instance, go to AMP for the sure thing, which is for the sex.

Go to the KB's for hanging out after, chilling: sometimes getting lucky in the booths or rooms. Rico, I think you just answered your own thoughts. It about the "getting lucky" part.

The reason some of us go kb and not AMP is excitement of the unknown. This can be the unknown of "does she play?" or "does she play for me?" This can be the unknown of "how much play can I get from her?" or "how far can I get her to go?" This can be the unknown of whatever gets you going.

However, one of the reasons that we are here on this site is to increase our chances of getting whatever it is that you may want. The excitement of the unknown is not decreased by being on this site, it just increases the excitement because we get this info and now we have to see if we have the mojo to make it work.

We are all, especially me, looking for validation and acceptance for our thoughts and actions. But we would like to get it from the kb rather than AMP because The AMP is a sure thing. IMHO

Oldee
05-27-11, 04:28
I was hoping the girlfriend / companionship seeker guys would post but that was wishful thinking. I should have known by the fact noone posts on rippoff artists. I see almost every guy getting played in the booths these days. I'm getting fustrated myself because guys just don't get it. Bar talent sucks all over now. Have you noticed only a few guys post actual bar reports? Not complaining about that but the pickings is so dam few these days. Yet every bar I go guys buying bgs drinks like crazy. Wake up guys! She not going have sex with you or be your gf! Why? Cause you spoil her. As strange as it sounds, us sukebe guys get more chance and even we don't want that. Why? Cause they would never like a guy like you that BUYS ATTENTION. They want to duplicate you a thousand times over so they get lots of you bar boyfriends and liar puppy dogs. Alot of girls like work for Maya cause no need put out and MOST customers there is the harmless companionship / gf seekers. Hey, I got nothing against those guys but damn, buying drinks every 5-10 minutes all nite just to hold hands? Bros, I get that free. As stated in recent posts, nothing wrong with going for other than sex, but do you guys really think its worth the buy every 10 minute route with no play? Alot of you guys need to wake up. Sorry for my rant. I was going to post tactics stuff but if you guys keep spoiling the girls, no tactics will work. Thoughts guys?

Jj6969
05-27-11, 08:37
I was hoping the girlfriend / companionship seeker guys would post but that was wishful thinking. I should have known by the fact noone posts on rippoff artists. I see almost every guy getting played in the booths these days. I'm getting fustrated myself because guys just don't get it. Bar talent sucks all over now. Have you noticed only a few guys post actual bar reports? Not complaining about that but the pickings is so dam few these days. Yet every bar I go guys buying bgs drinks like crazy. Wake up guys! She not going have sex with you or be your gf! Why? Cause you spoil her. As strange as it sounds, us sukebe guys get more chance and even we don't want that. Why? Cause they would never like a guy like you that BUYS ATTENTION. They want to duplicate you a thousand times over so they get lots of you bar boyfriends and liar puppy dogs. Alot of girls like work for Maya cause no need put out and MOST customers there is the harmless companionship / gf seekers. Hey, I got nothing against those guys but damn, buying drinks every 5-10 minutes all nite just to hold hands? Bros, I get that free. As stated in recent posts, nothing wrong with going for other than sex, but do you guys really think its worth the buy every 10 minute route with no play? Alot of you guys need to wake up. Sorry for my rant. I was going to post tactics stuff but if you guys keep spoiling the girls, no tactics will work. Thoughts guys?Funny that you mention Maya's, I see a lot of guys waiting for their so called girlfriends (in their minds) to come back from their other customers. They wait for hours for her and while waiting they buy mama, the waiters, the deejay, and even the kitchen mama drinks. Also, the BG asks for money from the guy and they just hand it over with no complaints. Is this insane or what? I guess they just want to show off. They forget one of the most important rules,"no matter how much you spend, someone is going to spend more. Then in the end if you complain about it they always say "it's my job and I thought you understand me".

Uki Eater
05-27-11, 14:09
I was hoping the girlfriend / companionship seeker guys would post but that was wishful thinking. I should have known by the fact noone posts on rippoff artists. I see almost every guy getting played in the booths these days. I'm getting fustrated myself because guys just don't get it. Bar talent sucks all over now. Have you noticed only a few guys post actual bar reports? Not complaining about that but the pickings is so dam few these days. Yet every bar I go guys buying bgs drinks like crazy. Wake up guys! She not going have sex with you or be your gf! Why? Cause you spoil her. As strange as it sounds, us sukebe guys get more chance and even we don't want that. Why? Cause they would never like a guy like you that BUYS ATTENTION. They want to duplicate you a thousand times over so they get lots of you bar boyfriends and liar puppy dogs. Alot of girls like work for Maya cause no need put out and MOST customers there is the harmless companionship / gf seekers. Hey, I got nothing against those guys but damn, buying drinks every 5-10 minutes all nite just to hold hands? Bros, I get that free. As stated in recent posts, nothing wrong with going for other than sex, but do you guys really think its worth the buy every 10 minute route with no play? Alot of you guys need to wake up. Sorry for my rant. I was going to post tactics stuff but if you guys keep spoiling the girls, no tactics will work. Thoughts guys?Hehe. I wonder how these girlfriend / companionship seekers think if they read these posts?

"You guys are wrong! She does like / love me. There's so many things she has done for me. The sacrifices she has done to sit with me and hear my stories. She listens to me, puts a smile on my face. I feel important and wanted. I no mind spending $10, 000 every night. Main thing I happy right?" LOL Goodness.

The BG telling him: "Don't listen to them honey, I make you feel good and happy"

Neukd
05-27-11, 16:17
if you guys keep spoiling the girls, no tactics will work. Thoughts guys?Once again I find myself agreeing with Oldee, whether I like it or not. J / k.

The problem as I see it is that many of our fellow bargoers are self-conditioned to act Like they are content for getting played. As I have posted previously,


1. We as bargoers are taken advantage of only as much as we are willing to be taken advantage of (even if you think otherwise) ;

2. It doesn't matter if the kbg is a long time pro or a new girl, they think they have the superior bargaining position only because we allow them to (see number 1 above) ;

3. YMMV is not a reflection of your abilities, it is a reflection of the bg's ability to gauge how much and what kind of abuse (?) we will or will not take (see number 2 above) ;

9. The best way to get what you want is to KNOW what it is you really want.The only thing that we can do is remind these guys over and over and over again that they need to figure out what it is they want from the BG. Only then can they figure out a way to get it.

John Ross
05-27-11, 18:06
Hehe. I wonder how these girlfriend / companionship seekers think if they read these posts?

"You guys are wrong! She does like / love me. There's so many things she has done for me. The sacrifices she has done to sit with me and hear my stories. She listens to me, puts a smile on my face. I feel important and wanted. Turn the tables as a woman (BG or civilian) likes to have someone listen. Lots of BGs are lonely as they have no family or trusted friends here, so someone that listens to their problems is appreciated.

Uki Eater
05-27-11, 18:33
Turn the tables as a woman (BG or civilian) likes to have someone listen. Lots of BGs are lonely as they have no family or trusted friends here, so someone that listens to their problems is appreciated.Should have a male hostessbar like in Japan. Comfort all the women crying on your shoulder. Then, they buy you drinks. I no think guys will want to deal with their drama though.

Sik Dj Gugu
05-27-11, 20:35
Should have a male hostessbar like in Japan. Comfort all the women crying on your shoulder. Then, they buy you drinks. I no think guys will want to deal with their drama though.Working at a male hostess bar sucks pretty hard sir. It's definitely not as glamorous as you would think it would be, free drinks, girls wanting to get play from you, treating you like just a piece of meat. Its definitely not like being a male pornstar, that job would be awesome. Male hostess. Gah, one of the worst jobs I've ever had in my life.

Uki Eater
05-27-11, 22:57
Once again I find myself agreeing with Oldee, whether I like it or not. J / k.

The problem as I see it is that many of our fellow bargoers are self-conditioned to act Like they are content for getting played. As I have posted previously,

The only thing that we can do is remind these guys over and over and over again that they need to figure out what it is they want from the BG. Only then can they figure out a way to get it. There's no doubt that guys who seek gf / companionship are the ones in need of comforting and someone to vent out to. They have issues and they don't feel good about themselves. They feel deprived of that lack of love and attention. What helps is to be able to open up to people more. Don't just rely on a chick to get open and personal with. Alot of guys tend to do this. Don't be shame to open up to friends and family members. Heck, even to strangers. Maybe that's the problem. Not enough close friends to open up to and get personal with. So, they find a chick to get personal with. In this case, a chick from the bar.

Whatever situation you're in, just remember that there's someone else in an even worse situation. Accept the person that you are. Do things to make yourself happy. Like I said before, self improvement. Meet and make new friends, exercise and better your health, pickup a hobby if you bored. You build confidence and you'll feel better about yourself. Hard to be confident and feel confident if you don't feel good about yourself. You too busy cutting yourself down. Finding a chick and buying things to make yourself happy is only a temporary fix. It's external. You feel happy because you have someone / something. Appreciate what you have now. Cmon now, if you live in Hawaii, your life ain't all that bad. You must be doing pretty good to afford going hostess bars.

There are numerous guys I know and don't know who seeing BGs and married BGs. Their personal life went downhill so they seek emotional comforting and attention in the bars. That's why they are more focused on the intimacy and companionship than play / sex. They may know or may not know that the love with a BG is fake. But, I guess to them, it's better than nothing.

There's not much GF / companionship seekers posting on this thread because they on USA Relationshipguide. Info

Lumpia808
05-28-11, 01:30
Should have a male hostessbar like in Japan. Comfort all the women crying on your shoulder. Then, they buy you drinks. I no think guys will want to deal with their drama though.I think club Julianna by bar 7 is a "host bar" or so my bartender friend said. Not sure if she actually went there.

Uki Eater
05-28-11, 19:24
One reason I wrote that other post is I remember one time a girl's customer saw her sitting with me and he looked shocked and brokenhearted or something. Then there were times when the guy proudly leaves but returns for some reason only to find she's already "on" the next guy and is now 'all-sick', whereas a moment ago he was happy.I remember, at Romantei sitting at the booth with my friend, a BG I think she was Chinese or Vietnamese approached me and we sat and talked at the bar. My friend nearby was saying we looked like BF / GF sitting next to each other closely. She asked me to go backroom for $100. Damn, I should have taken that offer. But, I didn't. She then thanked me and said she had to go. At that time, I didn't know BGs would go from bar to bar. I then, decided to walk to Niagras (now called Evergreens) to just see how it is. I would enter from the Kapiolani side and use the bathroom. Then, I seen that same exact girl I sat with at Romantei sitting with a guy at the booth. She's leaning on him with her ARM around his. I was just surprised to see this. My reaction was: "Wow! I don't get this, she work Niagras or Romantei? Both? That was fast she sitting with another guy and clinging onto him. That *

Years ago when I was into a BG (you guys know her). I looked at her as my GF. We hold hands at the booth and talk everytime I visit her. I didn't care to get play or think sex with her. Even if my friends try and initiate it. When she got up and said she will be back, I would just sit and wait. Other BGs asked if they could join me I just tell them I'm waiting for someone. I couldn't wait any longer because it was a Weeknight and need to go work the next morning. So, I got up look to see where she is and I seen her sitting at another booth. Shit, I was mad. Fortunately, the guy didn't have her arm around her or getting physical. I just kept looking and I said to myself: "He better not touch her! I'm going to walk to that booth and tell him if he does!" I most likely would have done it to if there was some physically touching going on from him. I was already upset waiting at the booth for her. I couldn't take the fact of seeing him or her getting physical that I walked out of there all mad. Then, I drove home all mad and moody cussing in the car.

The next night I went to the bar, she came by me and got a booth. When she got my beer, I sat there all moody. She knew I was bothered. I told her I was very bothered by the fact that she let me wait at the booth so long only to find her sitting with someone else. I scolded her. She got a bit scared and then apologized.

Haha damn, I was lame. Getting all worked up on a BG. I'm glad I snapped out of this mode. I was talking to myself on the pros and cons about seeing this BG. She's a nice BG. She never texted me or called me to come visit her at work. Only when she's not at work she calls. But, the way I was acting, I was afraid of becoming some psycho guy worrying about who she sits with and who would be calling her while I'm sitting with her. When her cell rang, I was thinking: "Who the fuck is calling? It better not be some guy!" I try to brush it off and think its just her female friend or family member calling.

When I was into this BG, I got out or broke up with seeing someone before. It was not a nice breakup. So, me seeing this BG helped me try and forget about the whole thing. I felt happy seeing her. I was physically attracted to her to. I'm afraid to see a post on here that someone got play from her. I'm sure someone has or tried already.

That's why, I don't know how a guy can feel comfortable seeing a BG they like knowing the fact the someone will try to get physical with her or may already have had her. Because of this, there's no way I can take a BG seriously. It bothers me to think and ask: "Did you sleep with any of your customers?" Heh, of course she's going to deny it even if she did. Like asking a BG if she has a BF. She no like admit she does or it's going to turn you off by wanting to see her.

Shipshape
05-28-11, 21:25
Years ago when I was into you guys. We hold hands at the booth and talk. I didn't care to get play or think sex. Even if my friends try and initiate it. When he got up and said he will be back, I would just sit and wait. I couldn't wait any longer because it was a Weeknight and need to go work the next morning. So, I got up to see where he is and I was mad. I like it too if there was some physical touching going on from him. I was already upset waiting at the booth. I couldn't take the fact of seeing him I walked out of there all mad. Then, I drove home all mad and moody cussing in the car.

The next night I went to the bar, he came by me and got a booth. When he got my beer, I sat there all moody. He knew I was bothered. I told him I was very bothered by the fact that he let me wait at the booth so long only to find him sitting with someone else.

Haha damn, I was lame.

At the risk of Flames, here goes. Noticed that you lifted a quote from another thread. Not really sure that is good policy, but what do I know. Seems quote manipulation ought to be off limits. Like the above which has been admittedly manipulated. Hope no offense taken, it was done with humor and feeble attempt to prove a point.

Ultimate goals: Not sure what the major contributors of this thread want. If all customers were to adhere to a policy of only pay for play, well then I am afraid that soon the bars would be all dead as most, if not all, of the eye candy would disappear. Most of the KBG's from the "good ole days" are gone or 60yrs plus. This is a completely new crop that never heard of 5 or 10 dollar drinkees. It's all 20's (since about 1987. 24 yrs ago!). So do you think they may resist going back to those days. I think so. Korea ain't what it used to be and a lot of these KBG's are here to make some fast cash and then split. Do we really want all the customers wise to tactics? Seems to me we need a lot of guys walking in for the first time and dropping 20's all over the place, especially on Friday and Saturday nights. Then when the KBG's have made their bottom-line survival money the "enlightened ones" can swoop in on the off-nights for play. What I'm trying to say is we need a mass of easy money for the girls so they'll stay and tell their friends to come to the KB scene in Hawaii. Yeah, it may be wishful thinking. I'd like to see it reported there are 1, 000 ROBS in Honolulu for the weekend. I'd be out and about for sure if for only the eye candy. The more the merrier of course. Competition is a good thing. If the girls can't make a living well I'd be willing to bet they'll leave the business. I don't want that so I encourage guys to spend, spend, spend the money."Hey I think she really likes you". Of course that's bar conversation (plus I can pull my buddies out of trouble anytime, if they want and only when they want). My reports here are straight-up as I can remember them. Hopefully I've explained myself. I just got to ask. What is your ultimate goal.

Assuming the worst (all the KB's close due to not having the massive base of drinkee buyers) who do you figure the next 3rd world country of immigrants to be that may help sustain the industry (what with Korea no longer in that category)? Cambodia? Malaysia? Detroit?

Think we need to ask ourselves once in awhile. What is the goal, what is the rant, what are the consequences of reaching said goal. It's like the guy who has a hard-on against gambling machines. What the point? Yes, they are illegal. Yes, they do rip off people. Yes, some are addicted to them. Yes, they do not grab you and force you to play them. So you want the FBI to sting all the bars that have them? Net result. Bars close, girls get green card checked, girls leave. All KB's have some form of illegal activity (even if it's just a grease-trap violation or the water is not hot enough). I guess my point is who cares? For KB's it's quite simply "buyer beware".

Back to the cave.

Ss

Oldee
05-28-11, 22:27
I've enjoyed ALL the posts here so far and re-read them to fully get your intent so no think your posts gets overlooked. Lots of good info for vets and newbies alike. When there is more input, pieces of the nani puzzle gets put together and we all benefit. When I see posts like Sik dj, I remember the guy afraid to walk in a kb alone not long ago to now posting stuff like a seasoned vet. Lumps bro now posts like a wise ingognito monger giving viewpoints older guys don't normally see. I'm certain the forums has helped but correct me if I'm wrong. Also, don't underestimate the short comments by the vets like JR and Aflack and others. They speak volumes if you really get their meaning. I'm sure you all look forward to ILTW's posts that are classic. Eh ILTW, wea you stay? His lessons and jokes interests more than a few guys for sure. (ok, maybe 3). As you guys know, I like kbars. Its a cool place to get cheap beer, pupus, watch sports, hang with friends. Eye candy, and yes, even sing karaoke sometimes. You can enjoy all this without even buying nekos. Good deal imo. The best part is no need dress up, unless you like impress the girls with my T shirts. I guess I just want to say this thread has been fun. No have to be all serious and worry if off topic. We go bar for ENTERTAINMENT ffs. Relax, have fun, sometimes score nani. Maybe we can even change the bar culture a little, haha. I know, slim to none chance, but you never know, someday there might be a black guy elected prez from Hawaii. BTW Uki, I was the one wen sit with your previous bar girlfriend. No get mad ah, I neva do nothin you wouldn't do..).

Uki Eater
05-28-11, 23:42
Should have a poll on people that go hostess bars. Just for fun.

A. Go to get affection and mental stimulation with a BG. Possible love.

B. Go to get touchy feely / play and possible sex.

C. Go to impress, boast and show off to the bar and women at the bar.

D. Go to hangout, look at eye candy (if any) and see which guy at the bar is a member from the forum.

E. All of the aboveSince Oldee and ILTW said F. I'll be honest, for me its E. But, minus the possible love on the A. On the C part, It does feel good when you on that night where you looking for a BG to just splurge on. You even buy your friends BG a drink to. Like lighting up a lot of fireworks at once on New Years. I'm sure others show off and boast in their own way but, no admit it. Plus, I know guys going impress in flattering the BG, splurging, show off his looks / body, what he does for a living, car they drive (make the BGs see what you drive) On the D part, when I walk into KB, I often think: "Interesting, that guy at the bar watching ESPN might be a senior member on the forum" Or, you stay peeing in a stall in the bathroom next to a stranger but, he not a complete stranger cause you PM him on the forum. You were just peeing next to another monger from the forum. LOL. In regards to A, it feels good to get the mental stimulation and get the physical thing going. Get majorly aroused. It's like an FTF where you become comfortable and then fuck her later but, just keep it at that. Problem with FTF is eventually they end up falling for you. The girl feels maybe this can escalate into something more than just sex. Not surprised also that a guy may fall for a female after having sex with her to. Give in to sex and maybe his / her mental thinking will change afterwards.

Oldee
05-29-11, 06:29
Do we really want all the customers wise to tactics? Seems to me we need a lot of guys walking in for the first time and dropping 20's all over the place, especially on Friday and Saturday nights. Then when the KBG's have made their bottom-line survival money the "enlightened ones" can swoop in on the off-nights for play. What I'm trying to say is we need a mass of easy money for the girls so they'll stay and tell their friends

SsThanks for your post SS. First, can't speak for Uki but I think he did that to unclutter the other thread with 'opinion' seeing as some members only want straight reports there. Imo, the honolulu forums is all connected so its not theft in my view of a public post thats related to the subject matter. If he had posted there, he would have gotten flamed. I'll leave it at that.

I apreciate your post SS, and hope you don't get flamed even tho I respectfully disagree with your main assumption. That is not to say you could be right and I am always open to seeing things in another light. I have observed the bar scene for many years (mid 70s) and known many past and present bgs and mamas which is the basis for my opinions. I am also a live and let live guy so I don't think the FBI or health dept relates to the this particular subject matter. We BOTH want the bars to survive. I suspect I don't however go to bars for the same reason you do. (based on your good and humorous reports) I don't usually play with the known play girls so I suspect my come from and goals when I go bar is a little different from what you may think it is. We both know this generation of bgs are different and that they not like before. They aint from the hick towns and come here to make easy money. This is where we disagree. Unless we kiss ass and encourage guys to get robbed, the bars will close. So your reasoning is keep them happy so they don't leave and the few play girls got a place to work at and you can view eye candy? Would you be happy if ALL bars was like Evergreen now and girls told not to play whether they want to or not? Thats the trend now if yov havnt noticed. The business model is bars dictate and customers comply. Competition is good but there is none. Bars cooperate with each other. There is no coke versus pepsi in the bars non competion. On a recent trip to korea, I met lots of girls willing to work here for less money and more play. The problem is immigratiom status. Theres more but these are my initial thoughts regarding your post. As I said earlier my goal is to inform guys how to get more value for their money, and better success at the punani prizde. At the end of the day, arent we all immoral guys trying to make moral judgements on an immoral subject tho? Hehe.

Uki Eater
05-29-11, 16:11
At the risk of Flames, here goes. Noticed that you lifted a quote from another thread. Not really sure that is good policy, but what do I know. Seems quote manipulation ought to be off limits. Like the above which has been admittedly manipulated. Hope no offense taken, it was done with humor and feeble attempt to prove a point.

SsYeah, I actually repeating something that I mentioned before in another thread. It was done just to prove a point. I know friends, coworkers who married and in relationships with BGs. They got their issues and some went into depression mode as a result. Just trying to make the guys wake-up and realize so that they don't end up getting burned. Or, become a jealous psycho guy over a BG. Women can drive a guy nuts. Have fun at the bar, enjoy the company with a BG, get play, hang out etc. But, just keep it to that level. My say on this whole thing is that if they choose to sit and buy drinks for BGs every 10 minutes, thats up to them. It's their money and they spend it the way they want to. But, since they are spending that much money, might as well try and get the most out of their $ by getting at least some play from the BG. Small price to pay for the BGs considering how much $ they getting.

I can see your point. The GF / companionship seeker guys spend money and help keep the business going. If there's no spending, the BGs are just going to leave and go back to where they came from. That's what Stacey and Ruby from S Lounge did. Two young attractive BGs who left because it was just slow. BGs not going want to stay because the business is to slow. If too slow, the bars will close. But, there's also the other play / sex guys who are not that willing to spend money on the BGs because these BGs just tease and hound for drinks like crazy. The gf / companionship seekers help mold the girls to become content with just talking and no play because they don't do anything physical. BGs go to these guys because they're safe. But, Imagine if these guys got more aggressive with the girls? They spend, but get more aggressive on them also. The BGs going have to at least put out a little and allow some roaming. Such a small price to pay considering a BG can milk as much $ out of a KB customer with no play at all vs a girl from an AMP providing FS to a customer.

The Sukebe guys help keep the play thing going in the bars. Maybe mentally, most guys are horny / aroused but they just don't take action. Imagine if no customer was physical whatsoever? Play would then be considered an abnormal thing to do in a bar. Like no HE at a MT. All tease but no play. Strictly legit. The BGs will be so relieved. No need to play at all and make $$$$$$ by just smiling and talking. They'll have their way and manipulate guys and trick them to the utmost extreme. They doing this already. No guy is going to put his foot down and just allow the BGs to do whatever. Need to transform these GF / companionship guys to become more aggressive play seekers. Not saying the BGs need to offer FS like an AMP (But, go ahead if you want to! Hehe) but, at least some play. Too aggressive, the girls going be scared. I don't even see these guys at least put the ARM around the waist considering how many drinks they buying. I was like those GF / companionship seeker guys. But, my outlook eventually changed. I still go there for talk and have the company of the BG, I just threw in the play. We need more guys to initiate play. The girls becoming too comfortable with just sit, talk and then ROB routine.

The whole barscene environment gets boring just seeing guys sitting next to BGs talking. Nothing interesting and exciting to look at. I know guys get interested and excited when they see someone getting some play on with a BG. It adds excitement to the bar. It's similar to seeing guys at the disco club standing around lounging and looking. No dancing with the girls and no freaking the girls.

Oh, BTW, no offense taken by your post.

H Mobius
05-29-11, 16:48
I can see your point. The GF / companionship seeker guys spend money and help keep the business going. If there's no spending, the BGs are just going to leave and go back to where they came from. That's what Stacey and Ruby from S Lounge did. Two young attractive BGs who left because it was just slow. BGs not going want to stay because the business is to slow.I think there are cases where the girl brings it on herself though, such as when they only want to sit with handsome, cute guys. Ruby was just too hot for a toad such as myself, and was not interested in my money (which I happened to have a lot of ammo that night). She only asked for 3 drinks then stopped (I was caressing her upper arm but she didn't want to be touched). She later saw me at Evergreen with Moon and gave me the jealous routine. Whatevers.

Back to my cave. Got any beer, Shipshape?

Uki Eater
05-29-11, 17:20
I think there are cases where the girl brings it on herself though, such as when they only want to sit with handsome, cute guys. Ruby was just too hot for a toad such as myself, and was not interested in my money (which I happened to have a lot of ammo that night). She only asked for 3 drinks then stopped (I was caressing her upper arm but she didn't want to be touched). She later saw me at Evergreen with Moon and gave me the jealous routine. Whatevers.

Back to my cave. Got any beer, Shipshape? My bad. Sorry, shouldn't have mentioned her name. One thing I admire about you H Mobius is that you make the move regardless of the outcome. You take the chance. More guys need to be like you. You make sure you get your moneys worth. I bet most guys wouldn't make a move on Ruby because they shame.

Neukd
05-29-11, 17:47
What I'm trying to say is we need a mass of easy money for the girls so they'll stay and tell their friends to come to the KB scene in Hawaii.

Assuming the worst (all the KB's close due to not having the massive base of drinkee buyers) who do you figure the next 3rd world country of immigrants to be that may help sustain the industry (what with Korea no longer in that category)? Cambodia? Malaysia? Detroit?

Regardless of what some kbgs might say that they are not making money because of this and that and all, there will alwasy be a line of girls willing to work kb because they would almost never be able to make the kind of cash staying in korea that they can make at kb.

A majority of the kbgs I have gotten to know get into the business because they overspend and need fast cash, but don't want to go to loan sharks in korea, which are usually involved with organized crime. So they come here and work a kb for a few months and pay their debt off. If they overspend again, they come back. For some, they come and never leave because to them it is easy ("easier") money than working a 9 to 5 in korea.

I have talked to many kbgs who say that they want to find a day job and leave the business. When I ask them why they haven't done that yet, the answer is always the same: can't make enough money from a day job. My response to them each and every time is,"if you spend only what you can afford to spend then you can make enough from a day job, and most people live that way"

To me most kbg don't really have the readiness for leaving the business because they are so used to the money and the lifestyle. For most, even on days off they go out drinking.

Because of this, I don't see any reason why we would ever run out of kbgs willing to come and make money regardless of how much we spend or don't spend. Especially since what most of the bros are saying is "we are willing to spend the money, as long as we have a good time." And I agree, I am willing to spend my hard earned money but it needs for something that I think is worth it; whatever that may be. Sometimes its play, and sometimes it's not.

Shipshape
05-29-11, 18:28
Back to my cave. Got any beer, Shipshape?Yup! Sure do Mr. HM. Tested the treads last night and appears operational.

Well, under the "been there done that" category, I've been pretty much described by all your lists over the years (with the exception of Macho Man Makes His Move). Pretty much settled into "you want my twenty and I want your honey" kind of routine. Oh yes, we'll laugh along the way and if you say stop, well I'll stop. Too include buying drinkees. So my concern is I need the 1st shift guys to buy the drinks and hold hands with the girls. Then, when 2nd shift starts I find myself with a liquored up KBG who typically wants to play herself. Now, it doesn't always work and there are many a night I just sit at the bar, but, I'm just not going to drop twenties to hold hands and talk.

Can't even remember the last time I sat with a KBG and didn't automatically put my arm across her back resting my hand on her hip area to start. Typically, I like to sit with her to my left. Left arm / hand in position, right hand free to roam (I'm right handed).

1st shift guys are for the warm up (that's why I like to keep those guys around).2nd shift for the game kind of thing. And, of course, there's always the Last Call shift at Napa's (Haven't gone to Evergreen since Maya took over. Again "You want my twenty and I want your honey". So if Maya has banned the honey, well you ain't going to see me there any time soon).

Back to the cave for nascar Sunday.

Ss

Oldee
05-29-11, 20:02
If the girls can't make a living well I'd be willing to bet they'll leave the business. I don't want that so I encourage guys to spend, spend, spend the money. Guess my point is who cares? For KB's it's quite simply "buyer beware".

SsAfter thinking about it and giving your post its due respect, I will answer the who cares question. I do. I speak just for myself and noone else. I beleive in sharing info whether its forum members or not. If it came down to choosing between letting guys get robbed or lose the eye candy girls, I'd choose the guys instantly. Thats me, I'm a guy. Mind you, and these are some of the guys I'm pissed at for spoiling the girls. I'd still choose US over foriegn girls anyday even if it meant losing something for ME personally, especially those hotties I play with. (yeah, I do beleieve it or not) I beleive the girls have room to adjust in giving a little. Little slower drinking, little more play etc. I do not adhere to the let the princesses be princesses doctrine in fear they will leave us and I won't get the eye candy no more and bars will close of that. Thats a very flawed opinion imo, hehe. Remember just my opinion so don't take offense. Let the fools get robbed so I can continue with the play girls and watch eye candy. Come on, go ala mo or waikiki, its free. My game is not mainly price negociation, I play and work my mojo on the hotties so thats MY come from which influences my opinions. Again, I don't beleive we got to spoil the bgs in order for bars to survive. You would be surprised how much many of the so called unpopular girls make. There will always be room for the kools, blue sea bars and the now 40s girls will graduate to there. Just as they started in town. Got older went kalihi and when desparate, they put out. They adapt. Right now, we are making it so the hotties no need adapt. Funny thing is I see the old guys spoil the girls more than the young guys. Instead of attracting more NEW TO KB CUSTOMERS of the new generation its an assumption based on the current customer pie and letting the bars dictate everything except adapting. Why? NO NEED. Keep believing you need to let me rob plenty guys or the bars and eye candy going away. Works for the bars, go ask maya. Just my 3. 49cents worth.

Iliketowatch
05-29-11, 20:50
Eh ILTW, wea you stay?He buggah stay kakaroach my posts. Mus be my one finga poi too sour for the ohana. No ono fo the kine masses. Waste my time write, poho. The lurkers no say they like read what I write, so my mouse ma'ke. Get plans in the works. PM me if you the last post. ILTW.

Uki Eater
05-30-11, 04:11
After thinking about it and giving your post its due respect, I will answer the who cares question. I do. I speak just for myself and noone else. I beleive in sharing info whether its forum members or not. If it came down to choosing between letting guys get robbed or lose the eye candy girls, I'd choose the guys instantly. Thats me, I'm a guy. Mind you, and these are some of the guys I'm pissed at for spoiling the girls. I'd still choose US over foriegn girls anyday even if it meant losing something for ME personally, especially those hotties I play with. (yeah, I do beleieve it or not) I beleive the girls have room to adjust in giving a little. Little slower drinking, little more play etc. I do not adhere to the let the princesses be princesses doctrine in fear they will leave us and I won't get the eye candy no more and bars will close of that. Thats a very flawed opinion imo, hehe. Remember just my opinion so don't take offense. Let the fools get robbed so I can continue with the play girls and watch eye candy. Come on, go ala mo or waikiki, its free. My game is not mainly price negociation, I play and work my mojo on the hotties so thats MY come from which influences my opinions. Again, I don't beleive we got to spoil the bgs in order for bars to survive. You would be surprised how much many of the so called unpopular girls make. There will always be room for the kools, blue sea bars and the now 40s girls will graduate to there. Just as they started in town. Got older went kalihi and when desparate, they put out. They adapt. Right now, we are making it so the hotties no need adapt. Funny thing is I see the old guys spoil the girls more than the young guys. Instead of attracting more NEW TO KB CUSTOMERS of the new generation its an assumption based on the current customer pie and letting the bars dictate everything except adapting. Why? NO NEED. Keep believing you need to let me rob plenty guys or the bars and eye candy going away. Works for the bars, go ask maya. Just my 3. 49cents worth.Yeah. I agree with what you say to Oldee. My thoughts exactly.

Dragons76
05-30-11, 09:02
Yeah. I agree with what you say to Oldee. My thoughts exactly.I have to agree with both of you. Personally being part of the younger generation I go to these bars for mainly the play. I've made my mistakes and I have splurged on some BGs for friends bdays or special occassions but that did open the door for play later. For me though if the BG drinks to fast I tell her whats the rush if you drink like that you wasting your time trying to get more drinks from me so you should just move on. If she no like allow me to touch her even more so screw spending more on her I tell her to go find someone else to spend on you. I could be just in the minority but I do enjoy the game of the chase in the same respect I no like spend too much hehe because this isn't a female I would like to have as a GF it is a female I would enjoy playing with and keeping it that way so when the SO no like put out I get at least a way to get sex without spending 2 bills everytime. I know I could still go to the AMPs if I want sex that badly and I don't have to worry about what I spend its usually a flat rate but every so often its good to have someone that you can talk to, make out with, drink with, and then have sex with and not have to worry about a time limit. (just got to be careful how much I spending)

H Mobius
05-30-11, 09:17
My bad. Sorry, shouldn't have mentioned her name.No problem, I think it was a good example. One rarely sees girls that hot, especially body-wise. Too bad she was like a museum exhibit.

Well, the 'chances' I take are on a business level. I do not abuse or disrespect the girls; they are there to make money and if I meet someone I like, I give her the opportunity (and sometimes every opportunity) to make money.

Shipshape
05-30-11, 11:30
Right now, we are making it so the hotties no need adapt.In a perfect world it would be one for all and all for one (or whichever way that goes). But reality shows that ain't going to work. Boycott? Never going to happen. So, what to do? Well on a personal level I set limits. That is the long and short of it. Look at it like Vegas. The machine is beating you up. Do you continue to play or do you walk away. Vegas counts on you continuing. Guess what, they're right. They depend upon the player who ultimately loses. (and thus all the bright lights and big casinos) So how do you win in Vegas? Play the odds, stay away from the machines, and set a limit of Win may help but in reality yah just got to look at it as an adult disneyland where it's going to cost you but, hopefully, the rides will be fun. Hmm am I talking about Disneyland, Vegas, or KBG's. Seem to be about the same thing. Yup, see the guys all the time that walk around watching. Yup, see the guys all the time dropping good money after bad on a losing situation. And yes I see the guys who are smiling from ear to ear having just gotten off a great ride. Me? I want another run at Space Mountain and I want another run at Let It Ride. Figure the only way to do that is to go play with my eyes wide open. Have at it guys, I like Vegas and Disneyland but my small contributions don't keep them open and don't think I'm going to change the world so I might as well play it to what works for me. I ain't no missionary showing my brothers the path to righteousness, I'm just a bar guy. Again, who cares? It's your money and your choice. Your level of win / lose may be different than mine but who am I to tell you what to do. Just roll the dice and Let's Play.

Ss

Uki Eater
05-30-11, 16:04
I have to agree with both of you. Personally being part of the younger generation I go to these bars for mainly the play. I've made my mistakes and I have splurged on some BGs for friends bdays or special occassions but that did open the door for play later. For me though if the BG drinks to fast I tell her whats the rush if you drink like that you wasting your time trying to get more drinks from me so you should just move on. If she no like allow me to touch her even more so screw spending more on her I tell her to go find someone else to spend on you. I could be just in the minority but I do enjoy the game of the chase in the same respect I no like spend too much hehe because this isn't a female I would like to have as a GF it is a female I would enjoy playing with and keeping it that way so when the SO no like put out I get at least a way to get sex without spending 2 bills everytime. I know I could still go to the AMPs if I want sex that badly and I don't have to worry about what I spend its usually a flat rate but every so often its good to have someone that you can talk to, make out with, drink with, and then have sex with and not have to worry about a time limit. (just got to be careful how much I spending)Yup. If a BG is going for the next drink pretty quick, I turn it up. In my mind, I tell myself: "fuck this! I'm going to grab even more if she going grab more drinks" Small price to pay for the BG. It's not like she's going to die from it if I do. Such easy money for her. If she allows, I no mind spending more. I'm a pretty sociable guy so why I'm going to be content with just strictly all talking? I might as well talk to you guys at the bar. You guys probably have more interesting and informative things to say anyways. Might as well do that for free. Not all guys go into a hostess bar seeking comfort from a female. You women get turned off if a guy gets too physically aggressive but, we get turned off when you get too aggressive on the drinks.

What's messed up is when a guy is not getting physical but, she still hounds for the drinks. So, regardless whether you getting physical or not, she's going to hound drinks from you anyway. Therefore, you might as well get physical with her. It would be unwise if you didn't. If the guy splurging, get touchy touchy with her. Other guys have tried or will try. The amount of money you spending is just too much to afford not to.

Jj6969
05-30-11, 17:23
No problem, I think it was a good example. One rarely sees girls that hot, especially body-wise. Too bad she was like a museum exhibit.

Well, the 'chances' I take are on a business level. I do not abuse or disrespect the girls; they are there to make money and if I meet someone I like, I give her the opportunity (and sometimes every opportunity) to make money. Now the questions are: How much money do you invest in a girl? What is the normal amount of money in the pursuit of play? Do you give up or go all in?

Shipshape
05-30-11, 17:29
My say on this whole thing is that if they choose to sit and buy drinks for BGs every 10 minutes, thats up to them. It's their money and they spend it the way they want to.

I can see your point.

The GF / companionship seeker guys spend money and help keep the business going. If there's no spending, the BGs are just going to leave and go back to where they came from. That's what Stacey and Ruby from S Lounge did. Two young attractive BGs who left because it was just slow. BGs not going want to stay because the business is to slow. If too slow, the bars will close.

The Sukebe guys help keep the play thing going in the bars. I still go there for talk and have the company of the BG, I just threw in the play. We need more guys to initiate play. The girls becoming too comfortable with just sit, talk and then ROB routine.I think I can't explain with the clarity of Uki Eater. These lifted quotes from his reply to my "who cares" posting pretty much explain my feelings as well. There's no "fear" in having bars close. It is what it is and I certainly have no control over any of it. So I just play while the playing is there. The original post was to provoke thoughts / opinions on the consequences of goal setting. In that, I think there has been some success. The reference to gambling machines was in the same vein. A regular poster has the goal of eliminating gambling machines. Perhaps a worthy goal or perhaps not. Frankly, I don't care cause I never use the devices. But, what I do care about is the process to achieve the goal (the elimination of said machines). Can't see the feds checking out bars as a good thing. The goal may have merit, but, the consequence may be more than bargained for. That's all I'm saying.

Ss

Iliketowatch
05-30-11, 18:42
What's messed up is when a guy is not getting physical but, she still hounds for the drinks. So, regardless whether you getting physical or not, she's going to hound drinks from you anyway. Therefore, you might as well get physical with her. It would be unwise if you didn't. If the guy splurging, get touchy touchy with her. Other guys have tried or will try. The amount of money you spending is just too much to afford not to.We never get to go to prom like you. Lonely stay home alone with my poster of Farah Fawcett and my collection of victoria secret catalogs you know. And how you like be the one who go nite club and is the designated table saver? Make shame. How you like go through life without ever having a gf? Why you like pick on us for spend money? I get lots of money you know. I no need pay for mortgage cause I still live with my parents. And I like when the girl get her drink. I even would tell her to get drinks faster. This way I no need think of something to say while she next to me. Nerve wrecking you know, when she put her hand on my thigh. The only problem buying drinks too fast is, when she look in my wallet when I reaching for the twenty. Sometimes she see the condom sticking out. My excuse saying that it's not a condom but it's a ketchup packet, makes me one liar. And shame when she tell me, how come your ketchup get one 1981 expiration date on it. Mama said we look like the perfect couple. And my mama don't lie, so I know this mama wouldn't lie too. So take that. She even when change her brand of cigarettes to my brand. When I told her why? Because I though maybe she like steal my pack every night. She said no, she just want me to know she will make sacrifices for me too. And on top of that. She no more one unlimted text plan. So everyday when she text me to come see her, she have to pay 20 cents you know. That's love in my book. And tell ILTW stop calling me one loverboy. I one hard working guy. I am just "working for the weekend". Just like that song, by those guys. What was their groups name?

Instead, why no try help us. Tell us why our girl always have to run to the bathroom with her hand over her mouth after she sit with Oldee. Did Oldee buy her the cheap brand of kim chee? I can help him out and tell him when palama get sale, so she no need run and not embarrass him by spitting it out. Or when my honey sit with ILTW. She always come back with her hair all messy. I can suggest to him which tables the AC no blow so hard. He not too bright, not knowing the back tables are where the AC's are mounted. Maybe that's why he no more gf. Or even you Uki. Tell me why my sweetie always get hard time pick up her drink cause her hands so slippery. If you going buy her one nice cosmetic gift, I can suggest one hand lotion that's oil free. I can help you guys you know. Just give me one chance. Oh! Why am I fooling myself for. You guy are just jealous I get one gf. I know how you feel. I remember when I was lonely too. But no get mad at me cause I'm the only one who found one real gf. Be nicer, and maybe I invite you to the wedding. Go to go losers. My bank close at 4.

Iliketowatch
05-30-11, 19:07
There's no "fear" in having bars close. It is what it is and I certainly have no control over any of it. So I just play while the playing is there. SsE=mc2 (environment equals more see*nts to) fill in your blank here. Suggestions: F*ck, Marry, Get taken by, Have a relationship with.

Regarding previous posts. The kb's will never go away. There will always be a pabo / greedy korean mama who will thinks she has the formula. Or the pabo / enterpreneur green carder, who will sub-lease for her dreams. What will go away is the play with the young girls. Town will be know as the "hope chapel kapiolani" girls. Kalihi will be know as the "getting old, got to be more bold, before the buggah get mold, and I'm out in the cold" girls. Pearl will be the "MILF's" (mamas in late fifties). And waipaHU will be the "my pet goat when give me one stink eye when I when try sneak up on her, so you're my next option" girls. But the bars will stay, because the customers "happiness" will always be there. Relatively speaking.

So why is everyone happy in the bars, except ILTW? It's relative.

The house customers are happy. Relatively speaking. Hanging out with friends in their clubhouse. Good eats. Mama always brings the new girls to them first. Not out for play or sex initially, so no inherent frustrations. Big spenders. They are not called house customers for nothing. They helped build mama's five houses. Mamas best customers. Long time regulars. Outwardly having to be the best behaved guys, as to not chase the new girls away so quickly. Keep mama happy, and occasionally she will give you the inside scoop when she lands a skank. Would you continually overpay for 5 star treatment, with no guaranteed play or sex, and still be happy? They are. Relatively speaking.

The loverboys are happy. Relatively speaking. If no civilian girl would give you the time of day, or your previous relationships ended after the 1st date, wouldn't you be "happy", if all of a sudden you got all this attention? They are. Relatively speaking. Is the guy who can't afford a car, happy to ride the bus? Of course, relatively speaking. Is the homeless guy happy to find a new cardboard box? Of course, relatively speaking. Is ILTW happy when he finds a new hat? Of course, relatively speaking. But a car, a house, and hair would be so much better. They are happy now. Getting what they could never get, but always wanted. Remember when all your friends had cars and you didn't. You were so happy when your dad finally passed down the old gremlin. You were happy, right? Yep! Relatively speaking. They not greedy, just needy. And beggars can't be choosers, so they just reside in their current happiness. Relatively speaking.

And the kb pervs are happy, too. Relatively speaking. They can go AMPs. Although truthfully, someone has to convince me that paying for sex is less of a loser than not paying and getting none. Well, I guess they not trying to be moral like the loverboys. They don't want to be president of the USA, just his best friend. They just choose to go to the kb craps table and put all their money on the "cum line" instead of the "don't cum". But the tables have been cold lately. Yet they happy, relatively speaking. There's no place they can use their swivel necks, bee bee eyes, and lecherous smiles, and not get arrested. The bar loner. Go shopping by himself. Good evening sir, can I help you? No thank you, just looking for now. Store policy is, no touching. If you touch or you going have to buy it. Touch, touch, touch. OK. How much? Cannot get as much sex as before but they still happy, relatively speaking. There's no place else you can be a know perv and not get 5-10 hard time. Cause the slim pickings of sex in the kb is better than the 500 lb. M*ther F*cker cellmate telling you to bend over and pick up the soap. That's hard time. Relatively speaking.

Even the now departed kb lovers who actually found a wife, are happy Relatively speaking. Their goal of marriage to solve their life's problems is achieved. I know many bar friends who have bar wives and are happy. Relatively speaking. They just put more value in the paperwork than the reality. The image of being hitched, is better than being ditched, even though she is a witch (ed). It's their american dream. Hey, they treat the bars with so much gratitude, you often see them in the bars again nightly, after their married. They really happy. Relatively speaking.

So the bars are here to stay, so long happiness in the eye of the beholder is alive. Or as long as it takes for ILTW to figure out how to get his line of love dolls to cook, clean and moan. The happiness will prevail, relatively speaking.

So which blank did you choose? E=mc2 (environment equals more see*nts to) fill in your blank here. If you chose what I chose, then see you in Waiks. It's a better environment these days. Relatively speaking.

Uki Eater
05-30-11, 19:34
I think I can't explain with the clarity of Uki Eater. These lifted quotes from his reply to my "who cares" posting pretty much explain my feelings as well. There's no "fear" in having bars close. It is what it is and I certainly have no control over any of it. So I just play while the playing is there. The original post was to provoke thoughts / opinions on the consequences of goal setting. In that, I think there has been some success. The reference to gambling machines was in the same vein. A regular poster has the goal of eliminating gambling machines. Perhaps a worthy goal or perhaps not. Frankly, I don't care cause I never use the devices. But, what I do care about is the process to achieve the goal (the elimination of said machines). Can't see the feds checking out bars as a good thing. The goal may have merit, but, the consequence may be more than bargained for. That's all I'm saying.

SsSpeaking for myself, I'm not saying I don't give a damn about other guys being ROB by a BG or want them to get burned. I like to shed light on them and have them maximize their fun to the fullest they can with their money. Hopefully, they catch on by our postings on this forum. But, I cannot be focus on that primarily when I go to a hostess bar. I'm looking for my own fun with the friends I'm with when I'm actually there.

Oldee
05-30-11, 19:35
I think I can't explain with the clarity of Uki Eater. These lifted quotes from his reply to my "who cares" posting pretty much explain my feelings as well. There's no "fear" in having bars close. It is what it is and I certainly have no control over any of it. So I just play while the playing is there. The original post was to provoke thoughts / opinions on the consequences of goal setting. In that, I think there has been some success. The reference to gambling machines was in the same vein. A regular poster has the goal of eliminating gambling machines. Perhaps a worthy goal or perhaps not. Frankly, I don't care cause I never use the devices. But, what I do care about is the process to achieve the goal (the elimination of said machines). Can't see the feds checking out bars as a good thing. The goal may have merit, but, the consequence may be more than bargained for. That's all I'm saying.

SsYeah, me too. Just stirring the pot for fun too. Thanks SS, I learn from you too and your posts gond for exersise the brain. Its just us lolo guys shooting the breeze.

Oldee
05-30-11, 21:24
He buggah stay kakaroach my posts. Mus be my one finga poi too sour for the ohana. No ono fo the kine masses. Waste my time write, poho. The lurkers no say they like read what I write, so my mouse ma'ke. Get plans in the works. PM me if you the last post. ILTW.Please pm ILTW to no retire. You guys missed out on some awesome posts. The MAN going retire cause no can post. That will be a great loss. I know get choke fans going miss his wisdom and humor.

Uki Eater
05-30-11, 21:59
Please pm ILTW to no retire. You guys missed out on some awesome posts. The MAN going retire cause no can post. That will be a great loss. I know get choke fans going miss his wisdom and humor.I notice his posts is delayed. He must be a moderated senior member. I notice other senior members posts are delayed also. I guess his writing style needs to be reviewed first.

Oldee
05-30-11, 22:42
I notice his posts is delayed. He must be a moderated senior member. I notice other senior members posts are delayed also. I guess his writing style needs to be reviewed first.4 didn't make it

Uki Eater
05-30-11, 23:26
4 didn't make itHis posts is too long that's why. Plus, he needs to break it into paragraphs.

Uki Eater
05-31-11, 00:11
What's messed up is when a guy is not getting physical but, she still hounds for the drinks. So, regardless whether you getting physical or not, she's going to hound drinks from you anyway. Therefore, you might as well get physical with her. It would be unwise if you didn't. If the guy splurging, get touchy touchy with her. Other guys have tried or will try. The amount of money you spending is just too much to afford not to.Hehe. I think ILTW you may have misinterpreted what I said in my post. The part where I saying its messed up, I am referring to the BGs on how messed up they can be to just ROB a guy, young or old if he doesn't get touchy touchy or displaying any sign of pervertedness. I'm like: "Wow he being nice and behaved and she still ROB him like that!" That's my reaction when I see that. I'm not putting down any guy at the bar. I don't look at guys in the hostess bars and think: "Wow, look at these losers getting played by these BGs" Nope. I don't think like that. Why should I like that? I was like that to. In fact, I still get played sometimes but, its just not as bad. I have better control now where I put my foot down. That's why I mentioned get physical with her if the BG does that. I just basically want other guys to get the most out of their money if the BG happens to do that.

Iliketowatch
05-31-11, 00:18
Hehe. I think ILTW you may have misinterpreted what I said in my post. The part where I saying its messed up, I am referring to the BGs on how messed up they can be to just ROB a guy, young or old if he doesn't get touchy touchy or displaying any sign of pervertedness. I'm like: "Wow he being nice and behaved and she still ROB him like that!" That's my reaction when I see that. I'm not putting down any guy at the bar. I don't look at guys in the hostess bars and think: "Wow, look at these losers getting played by these BGs" Nope. I don't think like that. Why should I like that? I was like that to. In fact, I still get played sometimes but, its just not as bad. I have better control now where I put my foot down. That's why I mentioned get physical with her if the BG does that. I just basically want other guys to get the most out of their money if the BG happens to do that.Just playing with you. Since can't olay with the bg's.

Iliketowatch
05-31-11, 00:19
His posts is too long that's why. Plus, he needs to break it into paragraphs.My boss always tells me that.

Iliketowatch
05-31-11, 01:08
Some / most people think my writing provokes people. Rubs them the wrong way. Incites flames. Other understand, I'm just protecting the mom and pop shops (old biz model) , from the big box intruders. There is no benefit to me if I put you down. But there is a benefit to me if I rid your ways from the bar. More chance for sex. I not saying to only go for play. You can watch the bows. You can just chill out. You can eat your pupus. You can sing your songs. You can do anything you want, EXCEPT, make the girls think they can survived in the kb without giving / getting some lomi lomi. Why? Because we are on this site to get sex. I will do what I have to do to get sex.

(Uki paragraph) I don't go to the strip clubs to watch the girls look like they practicing being firemen standing by their poles. I expect them to strip. But if you guys go there and just rain one's whether they strip or not, and change their thinking of how little they need to do to make a buck, then you going hear from a lot more guys than just me.

The girls that don't put out, are not my problem. Unless you are the ones grooming them to think that way. The eye candy is fine, if it's their choice to not play for pay. It's their option. But when you make their option play or no play and still make money, then it crosses my line. Don't get upset, don't cry to Jackson. What I write, only would upset someone who is on this site, that is not after sex. So it's not for your eyes to start with. It's only for guys who think similar to me. It's a call to gather the troops for play and sex. You can still have mayas, your perfect mothership. I haven't gone since I heard her biz plan. Glad I heard. Saves me from wasting my time there. Must be true, because I saw the broadway singer psycho BJ girl, now working at napa. Pay for play veteran.

I tried to save you from getting burned. Obviously you not going listen. You still molding the girls into thinking they can get rich by just smiling. Being in love is not an excuse for your behavior. It still results in less sex for me. Maybe I need to change my approach. I'll help you to get burned faster. I'm busy moving my office now, but stay tuned, help is on the way.

Chef gordan might be thinking of ways to get me out of his kitchen, but I'm cooking up something real tasty.

Alohaoe
05-31-11, 01:24
Hehe. I think ILTW you may have misinterpreted what I said in my post. The part where I saying its messed up, I am referring to the BGs on how messed up they can be to just ROB a guy, young or old if he doesn't get touchy touchy or displaying any sign of pervertedness. I'm like: "Wow he being nice and behaved and she still ROB him like that!" That's my reaction when I see that. I'm not putting down any guy at the bar. I don't look at guys in the hostess bars and think: "Wow, look at these losers getting played by these BGs" Nope. I don't think like that. Why should I like that? I was like that to. In fact, I still get played sometimes but, its just not as bad. I have better control now where I put my foot down. That's why I mentioned get physical with her if the BG does that. I just basically want other guys to get the most out of their money if the BG happens to do that.Bar girls do not carry a gun, they don't rob you, you let yourself to be rob thinking if I spend money I will get something, good luck join the suckers club like the rest of us. We all learn the hard way there is easy way in life.

Oldee
05-31-11, 06:50
I have no delusions that what I post will change the bar culture and help the mass majority of overspenders and loverboys. Doubt the whole forum with all posters can acheive that. So why post? Most guys that go bar don't even read USASG even tho most know about it. For me, I post for that 1 or 2 guys open to learning and taking advice that MAY help them enjoy themselves more and maybe save some money while they're at it. Why bother you might say as theyre tons of guys willing to be robbed both knowingly and unknowingly. What possible difference can you can make since they are just too many that don't care or unwilling to learn anything different. Its simply a lost cause and there will be no effect on the bar culture whatsover. Indulge me for a bit as I tell you one of my favorite storys of the little boy and the starfishes. A man was watching a boy throwing starfishes along the beach back in the ocean as the sun and tide was going down. Millions of starfishes were caught on the shore and would die as the water receded and they were left exposed without water to cover them. The man approached the boy as he kept throwing as many starfishes back in the ocean to save as many as he could. The man asked the boy: hey son, there are just too many starfishes on the beach for you to save them all. What possibe difference can you make? The boy looked at the man picked up another starfish and said: well sir, it makes a DIFFERENCE to THIS ONE as he threw it back in the ocean. I believe thats who ILTW posted for too. I know he made a difference with more than a few old and new starfises out there.

Ripcurl09
05-31-11, 07:11
E=mc2 (environment equals more see*nts to) fill in your blank here. Suggestions: F*ck, Marry, Get taken by, Have a relationship with.

Regarding previous posts. The kb's will never go away. There will always be a pabo / greedy korean mama who will thinks she has the formula. Or the pabo / enterpreneur green carder, who will sub-lease for her dreams. What will go away is the play with the young girls. Town will be know as the "hope chapel kapiolani" girls. Kalihi will be know as the "getting old, got to be more bold, before the buggah get mold, and I'm out in the cold" girls. Pearl will be the "MILF's" (mamas in late fifties). And waipaHU will be the "my pet goat when give me one stink eye when I when try sneak up on her, so you're my next option" girls. But the bars will stay, because the customers "happiness" will always be there. Relatively speaking. Since I quit kb hopping awhile back, I seldom post, but occasionally I'll read the latest just to see what's up, have a few good laughs, or nod in understanding, but this has forced me to post. ILTW has always provided several of the most essential any of us come here. .

1. First and Foremost. Experience. That's the real reason any of us ever read or posted in these forums, so we could learn from those who did it first. It's the MOST valuable thing someone has to offer. Not their opinion, but their experience. ILTW has provided A LOT of quality experience. And whether you like him or not, I'm positive something he's said has helped you make a better decision in the past.

With that in mind, don't you owe him something? If nothing else, but a bit of respect for being willing to share his mistakes.

2. Faithfulness- Although ILTW's total post count isn't as high as some, they are considerably higher then most in these forums. Which means what? He's taken the time, energy and effort to contribute more than 90% of the people who write in these forums, and that's not including the countless number that read but don't write. So again, I'd say that until someone exceeds the effort put into something, they should probably scale down their opinions.

ILTW, a big Mahalo for an awesome post as well as the willingness to share your experience. You've probably saved other fellow mongers many thousands of dollars and just as many cases of unnecessary blue balls.

Jj6969
05-31-11, 08:02
I have no delusions that what I post will change the bar culture and help the mass majority of overspenders and loverboys. Doubt the whole forum with all posters can acheive that. So why post? Most guys that go bar don't even read USASG even tho most know about it. For me, I post for that 1 or 2 guys open to learning and taking advice that MAY help them enjoy themselves more and maybe save some money while they're at it. Why bother you might say as theyre tons of guys willing to be robbed both knowingly and unknowingly. What possible difference can you can make since they are just too many that don't care or unwilling to learn anything different. Its simply a lost cause and there will be no effect on the bar culture whatsover. Indulge me for a bit as I tell you one of my favorite storys of the little boy and the starfishes. A man was watching a boy throwing starfishes along the beach back in the ocean as the sun and tide was going down. Millions of starfishes were caught on the shore and would die as the water receded and they were left exposed without water to cover them. The man approached the boy as he kept throwing as many starfishes back in the ocean to save as many as he could. The man asked the boy: hey son, there are just too many starfishes on the beach for you to save them all. What possibe difference can you make? The boy looked at the man picked up another starfish and said: well sir, it makes a DIFFERENCE to THIS ONE as he threw it back in the ocean. I believe thats who ILTW posted for too. I know he made a difference with more than a few old and new starfises out there.IMO there is no harm in listening to all the advise and making an informed decision, if even if it's a good or bad choice. At least you knew what you were in for.

Uki Eater
05-31-11, 08:06
Hehe. I think ILTW you may have misinterpreted what I said in my post. The part where I saying its messed up, I am referring to the BGs on how messed up they can be to just ROB a guy, young or old if he doesn't get touchy touchy or displaying any sign of pervertedness. I'm like: "Wow he being nice and behaved and she still ROB him like that!" That's my reaction when I see that. I'm not putting down any guy at the bar. I don't look at guys in the hostess bars and think: "Wow, look at these losers getting played by these BGs" Nope. I don't think like that. Why should I like that? I was like that to. In fact, I still get played sometimes but, its just not as bad. I have better control now where I put my foot down. That's why I mentioned get physical with her if the BG does that. I just basically want other guys to get the most out of their money if the BG happens to do that.My bad, disregard this ILTW.

Shipshape
05-31-11, 13:09
I notice his posts is delayed. He must be a moderated senior member. I notice other senior members posts are delayed also. I guess his writing style needs to be reviewed first.Yup, add me to the moderation club. Have no idea why but typically it takes 3 maybe 4 hours for the post to appear. On the weekends it can be a full day. Guess Mr. Jackson just likes to keep my "words of wisdom" to himself for awhile. Whatevers, it's his site.

Ss

Iliketowatch
05-31-11, 15:07
Yup, add me to the moderation club. Have no idea why but typically it takes 3 maybe 4 hours for the post to appear. On the weekends it can be a full day. Guess Mr. Jackson just likes to keep my "words of wisdom" to himself for awhile. Whatevers, it's his site.

SsHey SS. Ever wonder why, whenever we post, this girl is back and she is looking for sex, and our post is delayed. But when we go bar, Oldee already sitting with her. How he know? Ever saw Oldee and Jackson at the same kb at the same time? Hmm. I know I'm a pilau bulldog, so that's why I get one leash, but you get good posts, so you go figa. FYI, read the forum rules and maybe you can get an insight into what your posts might contain that is considered marginal to the site.

Iliketowatch
05-31-11, 15:18
I have no delusions that what I post will change the bar culture and help the mass majority of overspenders and loverboys. Doubt the whole forum with all posters can acheive that. So why post? Most guys that go bar don't even read USASG even tho most know about it. For me, I post for that 1 or 2 guys open to learning and taking advice that MAY help them enjoy themselves more and maybe save some money while they're at it. Why bother you might say as theyre tons of guys willing to be robbed both knowingly and unknowingly. What possible difference can you can make since they are just too many that don't care or unwilling to learn anything different. Its simply a lost cause and there will be no effect on the bar culture whatsover. Indulge me for a bit as I tell you one of my favorite storys of the little boy and the starfishes. A man was watching a boy throwing starfishes along the beach back in the ocean as the sun and tide was going down. Millions of starfishes were caught on the shore and would die as the water receded and they were left exposed without water to cover them. The man approached the boy as he kept throwing as many starfishes back in the ocean to save as many as he could. The man asked the boy: hey son, there are just too many starfishes on the beach for you to save them all. What possibe difference can you make? The boy looked at the man picked up another starfish and said: well sir, it makes a DIFFERENCE to THIS ONE as he threw it back in the ocean. I believe thats who ILTW posted for too. I know he made a difference with more than a few old and new starfises out there.Hey Oldee,

I am just as guilty as the next guy. Maybe not bar-wise, but lunch-wise. My doc keep telling me to stay away from the fast / fried foods, but try tell one construction guy to not eat fast food for lunch. No chance. I know I shouldn't, but everyday we stay at the fast food joint. We justify our reasons: convenience, not enough time, no mo wife to pack lunch for us, etc. You can tell me all you want, but we still going be there. Grease versus tofu, who you kidding. Food is one thing. But when love is involved, they can justify anything.

I expect you be my star witness at my trail. You need to tell the judge your starfish story. Make them one tearful rendition, cause I Know I going get arrested when I start throwing guys out on of the bars tonight. Your honor, Oldee said.

Oldee
05-31-11, 15:40
Since I quit kb hopping awhile back, I seldom post, but occasionally I'll read the latest just to see what's up, have a few good laughs, or nod in understanding, but this has forced me to post. ILTW has always provided several of the most essential any of us come here. .

1. First and Foremost. Experience. That's the real reason any of us ever read or posted in these forums, so we could learn from those who did it first. It's the MOST valuable thing someone has to offer. Not their opinion, but their experience. ILTW has provided A LOT of quality experience. And whether you like him or not, I'm positive something he's said has helped you make a better decision in the past.

With that in mind, don't you owe him something? If nothing else, but a bit of respect for being willing to share his mistakes.

2. Faithfulness- Although ILTW's total post count isn't as high as some, they are considerably higher then most in these forums. Which means what? He's taken the time, energy and effort to contribute more than 90% of the people who write in these forums, and that's not including the countless number that read but don't write. So again, I'd say that until someone exceeds the effort put into something, they should probably scale down their opinions.

ILTW, a big Mahalo for an awesome post as well as the willingness to share your experience. You've probably saved other fellow mongers many thousands of dollars and just as many cases of unnecessary blue balls. Very well said! You wrote what I wanted to better than I could.

Iliketowatch
05-31-11, 15:50
Typed in, starfish boy. Did you know he grew up to be a lifeguard on Waikiki beach? Every month he charted the moon. Then on the 10th day, he would put up his signs. Stay out of the water, box jellyfish warning. Stings are extremely painful. At the end of the day, he would just shake his head. He had to treat 100 people for stings that day. What, these people no listen. They no can see the signs. So he decided to ask his latest victim. Why after all these warnings, you still stupid enough to chance the consequenses? The man said, I've never touched the ocean before, so when I look out at the beautiful ocean's blue, I don't care what's just beneath the surface. The lifeguard said, don't just look at the surface, there can be rip tides and under tows. The man said, but, I love the ocean. Anyways, my buddy told me we going Camelot's tonight. Stay breaking 50 feet you know.

Oldee
05-31-11, 15:51
Yup, add me to the moderation club. Have no idea why but typically it takes 3 maybe 4 hours for the post to appear. On the weekends it can be a full day. Guess Mr. Jackson just likes to keep my "words of wisdom" to himself for awhile. Whatevers, it's his site.

SsI've wondered that about you being moderated and think its an oversight mistake. You don't use pigin, make long posts, flame people and fully follow the rules. What gives?

Oldee
05-31-11, 17:38
His posts is too long that's why. Plus, he needs to break it into paragraphs.You really think so Mr. Short novel worded many time no paragragh poster? Just teasing you bro. I like long posts. (guilty long winded poster) However, think you wrong about ILTW. I think its a cultural difference on how we word things. Its not just pigin. Kapiolani, Keeaumoku, Kalihi, Makaloa are words Jackson may think mean something different even tho they are just street names / districts. There is also the complex wording we use here thats hard or impossible to translate in standard english and get the same meaning. In any case I don't know. Just know its unfortunate his posts either was deleted or moderated so some may have missed reading them. BTW, sorry to you guys hate us long posters, scrolling 1 or 2 secs can be a pain you know Uki.

Iliketowatch
05-31-11, 17:48
So why post? Most guys that go bar don't even read USASG even tho most know about it.Every guy that goes to the kb's read these posts. I guarantee it. They all like know what each other thinking. Male hormonal curiosity. Cannot stop it. Cannot avoid it. Curiosity extreme. Even the guys who just like the nut and bolts posts, will read this thread, in silence. Cause no stop reading about sex. Local porn. Backyard babes. The cancer runs deep. I will even prove it you Oldee. You will see it with your own eyes. Here goes. If there is anyone out there who is NOT on this site, please post that I am wrong. You'll see. Do I have to be the only smart one here!

Uki Eater
05-31-11, 17:51
You really think so Mr. Short novel worded many time no paragragh poster? Just teasing you bro. I like long posts. (guilty long winded poster) However, think you wrong about ILTW. I think its a cultural difference on how we word things. Its not just pigin. Kapiolani, Keeaumoku, Kalihi, Makaloa are words Jackson may think mean something different even tho they are just street names / districts. There is also the complex wording we use here thats hard or impossible to translate in standard english and get the same meaning. In any case I don't know. Just know its unfortunate his posts either was deleted or moderated so some may have missed reading them. BTW, sorry to you guys hate us long posters, scrolling 1 or 2 secs can be a pain you know Uki.Hard to scroll and read on the phone that's why. Nah but, I must say it is eye catching and you look more forward to reading it if you see a very long post.

Iliketowatch
05-31-11, 19:24
What the difference between a GF and a GFE.

1) One you F, the other F's you.

2) One says,"See you after work", the other says,"See you doing work"

3) One save money for our future, the other spends for her future.

4) One says pick me up at home, the other says pick me up at ala moana.

5) One sleeps at 10, the other gets up at 10.

6) One possibly sells purses for a livng, the other definitely buys purses for a living.

7) One knows Jackson is a president, the other know Jackson is a present.

8) One gets training in how to report sexual harassment, the other trains to allow it.

9) One knows palama market started in palama, the other thinks she lives in palama.

10) One call her boss mam, the other calls her boss mama.

Which ONE do you have? Let me guess!

Iliketowatch
05-31-11, 19:39
Meet Kimo. Lonely guy. Got one job as one driver for robert's. Every break time, he change his shirt and go to hilo hattie's and just walk around the store. All the sales people, one by one, would ask him if he needed help. He would always reply,"No thanks, just killing time during my break". After a week, no one came to ask him if he needed help. They all realized, he was just there to look. He started feeling unwanted. Then one day, BAM, his boss said his shift has changed. He has to make the Hilo Hattie's japanese tourist run now. So he drove the bus to the store and escorted all the tourist in. The salespeople were thanking him and giving him free coffee and house pupus. House pupus? He the man, now. Even the store manager came to give him a hug. By the way, the salegirls all called her mama Hattie for a strange reason. Then the earthquake and typhoon struck. Crash! No more tourist. Back to his old shift. Back to to just killing time in the store. But why doesn't anyone seem happy to see him? He never could figure it out. Robert's had to let him go. So he now just goe to the kb's to kill time. Whalla! All the girls love him there. He asked himself why? I no more any tourist with me. Could it be I'm actually the man again? I don't know. Must this robert's shirt I stay wear all the time.

Moral: So go to the bars. Don't buy a single drink. After all the girl's have pitched you for a neko without success, you can then see who is really attracted to you. She will be the one by your side, just to be with you. But what if no one comes to be with me? Then you know, no one is attracted to you, other than for your money. Simple, clean, straight forward, cost-effective, truthful, eye-opening reality. But lonely ILTW. I know no one going come stay by me. The truth going be sore. You no mo one secret weapon I can use to make them want me? Well OK. Only for you. Let me see how much tourist you get in your wallet.

Ever since I had my run in with that kahuna guy in the bar, I seeked spiritual info from my site prep foreman (my personal hawaiian kumu). His words,"the mana you send out, is the mana you get back". We always talk during lunch, about the old hawaiian ways. I am a 100% believer now. If you afraid to seek the truth, you will only attract lies.

So hurry up and ask her. If you want her to be your gf, just ask her. Seek the truth man. Say,"do you want to quit the bar and be my gf?" She might say yes. Then ILTW not going badger you anymore for brainwashing them into being princesses, and you not going hate ILTW for molesting her after you leave every night. We going be even. Peace out. Just remember though. If I recall my high school biology class correct. The teacher was korean you know. All korean girls get one faulty crack. Sooner or later the crack going shift and you going experience on major earthquake. You going run out of tourist. Causing one major typhoon. And she going be the one, letting you go.

P. S. Oldee. 3:30, pau hana time. Wathing the Filipino housekeeper with the maid uniform getting me horny. Going tap the heiny's now. Maybe can tap one tourist too. Wish me luck!

Iliketowatch
05-31-11, 20:49
Was watching the hoku's the other night. Saw the Kalapana award and performance. Then my mother was watching the lantern floating festival last night. Got me emotional. Want to give a memorial shout out to Mackey Feary. I once went drinking at a kb with bruddah Mackey. He was a friend of my co-worker. He sang "The Hurt" acapela to the kbg. Now that's what I call falling in love. She fell in love with him instantly. I know drugs was his demon, but his music was my heaven. RIP bruddah Mac. I when carve one hole in my Kalapana albums, but no fear, I get them all on cd now. Kampai my green bottle friend. You are not forgotten.

Iliketowatch
06-01-11, 00:10
Attention loverboy friends. Sitting with your babe might feel like a perfect, long, sweet day at the beach. Sand around your feet. Green tea in the coola. Lying (literally & figuratively) , hand in hand in paradise. Sun tanning your back the whole day long. No ILTW to be seen for miles. Wrong, dreama. Your brain is actually storing all the info. When you go home from the beach, ILTW going be there. I now live in the back of your mind. Well maybe just in your shower. And when U-turn the shower on, and the spray hit your shoulders, you going scream my name with one "F" before it, because the buggah burn. She distracted you with lies and you neva protect yourself, again. And the buggah going burn for days. ILTW's lasting effect. The sunny day wasn't so sunny after all. You mocked my kbg spf 100 advise. So now you pay the price ($6. 66, Oldee sun burn aloe, the devil's price). Oh bruddah, hope not skin cancer! You going have to switch to heiny's fo cure that. Can handle the brew? My lessons will stay with you until you ready to learn. No think you can't get burned twice? I might be in your hibachi next time you have one picnic with her. The charcoal burn mo sore. No call me. Only chance get, Oldee.

When the skin pau peel, you can thank me when I see you with your english-speaking local girl wife, living in mililani, with two kids. And you never get two kids because your wife when mistakenly sit on the toilet seat on top of your "forgotten to clean up" jizz. You when get nani for free. She might be 30 pounds heavier than you would prefer. Or she might be only a "5" and not one "10". But you'll say eventually, looks is overrated. Average works just fine for me now. Hey, she compromising too, Mr. Male scale 5. Why? Because when I look around ala moana, I only see the average guys with average girls. Reality doesn't lie. I when say average, not ugly. I being nice. Cause now, you the man. No need buy drink fo score. In-house nani. And what's the best part you say. You can still go bar and sit with the honeys like before and get squat. How good it that? Then you can become your own ILTW. Stick your own sword in your daughter (no not incest, pay attention) , you can relentlessly tell her to never work in a bar, just because she like money. Then twist the sword in your son a million times, to never go to one kb for love. Life, comes full circle. You are me. You want to be, just like me. Just resist the urge to get one tramp stamp ILTW tatoo above your ass crack, I like be the only one to boast that. The babes go wild when I do plumbing work under their sinks. And no gifts please, just cash. $20 bills only, every 5 minutes.

Go trojans! No, not the condoms Oldee, pay attention. The loverboy get one house in mililani. Comprende?

Oldee
06-01-11, 00:17
Ever wonder why some guys get more action than other guys? I'm especially talking to the guys not especially handsome, rich and fustrated with their lack of success scoring nani. Oooh, I can see you loverboys getting excited with my special camera, you know which one ah? Anyway, I'd like to talk about improving your mojo. Yes, you CAN improve your mojo! Whats the secret you want to know. You horny and want the secret cause you never score with ANY kbgs YET. You see other guys less handsome (or so you think) , spending less but getting more action than you right? You anxcious and like know the secret already right? Hold on, I willl tell you. Oh wow, I just seen one loverboy catch one boner with my camera just now. That wasnt you ah Uki? No lie, I know you all excited bro. Just be patient. First, let me ask you guys what does Charles Barkley and ILTW have in common? Ok, besides they both big, if thats all you can think of. They BOTH understand the GAME they play. Barkley slow, not nba tall, cannot jump, not a sharpshooter, and don't even look like an nba player. Same with ILTW and the kbg game. BUT, they got the fundamentals and work on their strengths as well as weaknesses more than the guys with more physical atvantages. They are STUDENTS of the game. They got the fundamentals down and know their opponent's game better than their opponents do. When ILTW says figure out what makes her tick. When SS got to wait for second shift. When JR says LISTEN to the girls. When H Mobi says be honest thus believable. Etc. Etc. These are the fundamentals of the game essential for success. They work on what works for THEM. They look for openings in the defense. They make the game work for them and play THIER GAME. They experiment, learn from their failures and successes. They constantly learn and practice no matter how good and experienced they already are. They especially understand their opponents better than their opponents know them. So what's the secret? The secret is: drum roll please. There is NO SECRET! Know and work on the fundamentals as it applys to you. As in most games, the guy that understands the game best usually got the best chance to win.

Shipshape
06-01-11, 00:28
Hey SS. Ever wonder why, whenever we post, this girl is back and she is looking for sex, and our post is delayed. But when we go bar, Oldee already sitting with her. How he know? Ever saw Oldee and Jackson at the same kb at the same time? Hmm. I know I'm a pilau bulldog, so that's why I get one leash, but you get good posts, so you go figa. FYI, read the forum rules and maybe you can get an insight into what your posts might contain that is considered marginal to the site.

You can still have mayas, your perfect mothership. I haven't gone since I heard her biz plan. Glad I heard. Saves me from wasting my time there. Must be true, because I saw the broadway singer psycho BJ girl, now working at napa. Pay for play veteran. Aha! You have hit on it. Oldee paid 'them off. Got his own thread even. Maybe Jackson figures I'm a skank waiting to get clearance then all the stuff is going to hit the fan. It's ok though as it is his site and I figure it's good practice for when I get one job as a Mars Communicator. Yah got to anticipate the questions and answers then send 'them before they arrive. Yes, yes, no, I have no idea, I wish, it's itchy but the antibiotics will take care of it, it's all Greek to me, KY is on sale, and no I don't have any more of those blue pills. (that should cover it for a few days)

As to your other post, I completely agree about Evergreen. Saved me time and money reading and hearing about that hold hands KB. And. I think I may have met the broadway singer. Did she move to D'Amour? I happen to like psycho BJ girls. Seems to go ah. Hand in hand. Err johnson in mouth. Whatever.

Ss

Shipshape
06-01-11, 00:44
When ILTW says figure out what makes her tick. When SS got to wait for second shift. When JR says LISTEN to the girls. When H Mobi says be honest thus believable. Etc. Etc. These are the fundamentals of the game esseantial for success. They work on what works for THEM. They look for openings in the defense. They make the game work for them and play THIER GAME. They experiment, learn from their failures and successes. True enough. To expand. I always tell them (using the Mr HM philosophy) I'm too old to tell lies cause I can't remember them from one time to the next. Know what? Sad thing is, it's true. Get 'them laughing ALWAYS helps. And be willing to cut your losses. If it ain't happening for whatever reason, I used to think "I'm going to finish this beer and bag". Sometimes that might entail buying another drinkee. Now I grab my beer and run. No play? See yah. (in a polite way of course).

Ss

Iliketowatch
06-01-11, 01:27
First, let me ask you guys what does Charles Barkley and ILTW have in common? Ok, besides they both big, if thats all you can think of. They BOTH understand the GAME they play. Barkley slow, not nba tall, cannot jump, not a sharpshooter, and don't even look like an nba player. Same with ILTW and the kbg game. BUT, they got the fundamentals and work on their strengths as well as weaknesses more than the guys with more physical atvantages. They are STUDENTS of the game. They got the fundamentals down and know their opponent's game better than their opponents do.I can also kick his ass playing the sport that made him a legend.

Golf.

Oldee
06-01-11, 02:09
I expect you be my star witness at my trail. You need to tell the judge your starfish story. Make them one tearful rendition, cause I Know I going get arrested when I start throwing guys out on of the bars tonight. Your honor, Oldee said.Ok, but only if you let me play with your honey Fait Kim and if you survive the 50 foot Camelot waves. No worry Brah, I going tell Fait you love her and going be back if I still get money left buying play time from the ba to bail you out.

Oldee
06-01-11, 04:47
Aha! You have hit on it. Oldee paid 'them off. Got his own thread even. Maybe Jackson figures I'm a skank waiting to get clearance then all the stuff is going to hit the fan. It's ok though as it is his site and I figure it's good practice for when I get one job as a Mars Communicator. Yah got to anticipate the questions and answers then send 'them before they arrive. Yes, yes, no, I have no idea, I wish, it's itchy but the antibiotics will take care of it, it's all Greek to me, KY is on sale, and no I don't have any more of those blue pills. (that should cover it for a few days)

As to your other post, I completely agree about Evergreen. Saved me time and money reading and hearing about that hold hands KB. And. I think I may have met the broadway singer. Did she move to D'Amour? I happen to like psycho BJ girls. Seems to go ah. Hand in hand. Err johnson in mouth. Whatever.

SsAs the kbgirls and handsome Johnny Berand taught me: Win if you can, lose if you must, but ALWAYS cheat! Havnt you learned anything from these girls yet? I have noticed most of the play girls migrated to kalihi and unless you get the psycho ones in town, aint many left. The SS technique seems the best strategy lately for town. BTW, forgot to mention in secret post the Uki got some good info for the younger guys. Us old futs got to play a slightly different game, we get less chance freebie. Btw, SS, clear your inbox and yr post showed at 8:40 or so.

Oldee
06-01-11, 14:24
For you loverboys that got sced of ILTW's subliminal effects post, I know you worried but I can help you. He is one real scary Obake for loverboys yeah? When the ILTW charcoal Obake burn you, man, that going lay you out long time. Luckily, I am a part time EXORCIST. I specialize in getting rid of his kind Obake thoughts in your mind. I have never failed to get rid of him from guy's mind. I get the kb prayer to start the ritual, shot glass color water to use in the exorcism and everything! When I throw the water in your face, you hand me 20dollars as I shout, THE POWER OF THE NEKO COMMANDS YOU! I keep repeating this every 5 seconds and you keep giving me 20s. If you run out, visa / mc / amex accepted. I get plenty of shot glass water and can last as long as you got 20s. Then, when ILTW's thoughts leave your mind, you will feel a peaceful calm, unless that no good Obake ILTW come again, but no worry, I get plenty shot glass water to take care you. What? No mo money left to see your honey? Hey, in life, you can't have everything you know. At least ILTW will be gone for awhile.

Iliketowatch
06-01-11, 16:56
And. I think I may have met the broadway singer. Did she move to D'Amour? I happen to like psycho BJ girls. Seems to go ah. Hand in hand. Err johnson in mouth. Whatever.

SsSaw her at napa one night. I know she is looking for a new home since maya gave the no play word. You probably know sonia in kalihi. Previously from camelot, cheers sta. First class, drunk, psycho, BJ queen.

Iliketowatch
06-01-11, 16:58
I have noticed most of the play girls migrated to kalihi and unless you get the psycho ones in town, aint many left.Yeh, seems to be the case. I don't think there's anyone under 30 who plays in town anymore.

Iliketowatch
06-01-11, 17:22
Had a interesting talk with a bar buddy of mine. While talking about the loverboys in the kb's, he told to check out the strip bar and AMP threads. I never open these threads so I just read the past posts. The usual talk, but then I came across guys asking if anyone tried to date a AMP girl. If anyone was in a relationship with a stripper. What is this world coming too. What kind of answers were you guys expecting? Revenge of the loverboys. They're everywhere. What's next? Streetwalkers? MT's? Escorts? What other threads are there? Ole guys! I better watch my back. Who's that standing by me at the urinal. Come on man! I didn't want to open up the general report thread for fear some guys would be in love with les kieter. Sorry les. My view man is shattered. What next? Big foot wearing a "masseur" shirt coming to the bars and giving guys massages.

Iliketowatch
06-01-11, 17:32
Hey Oldee and Uki. Don't count out Waiks. Been drinking there too, lately. Heiny's on tap, sweet. Expensive tho. But I'd pay more for tap, anyday. Sit at the bar, scan the babes, and make friends with the bartender and waitresses. Then just wait for the time to say,"Hey bartender / waitress, ask that girl if she would mind if I bought her a drink?" They're more than happy to help. If she says "no", no lost. If she says "yes", your in the front door. Yes front door. Any stranger that will say OK, is taking a big chance. You in, man. Maybe not in the bedroom door, but you in the house. The rest is up to you. Close tab. Tip the bartender / waitress a 20 for being your dirty work wingman, and they'll remember you next time. No more what if's. Just straight yes or no. And your new partners in crime are pimping for you. No face to face rejection. All my paying it forward advise is now paying me back. No more, I don't know how close I'm getting to the kbg pot of gold. No more games. You'll really never know unless you don't buy drinks. The ultimate sucker bet. Just do the oposite. Now you can buy drinks and know. What a novel concept. No wonder they call us kber's pabo.

Aflack
06-01-11, 17:37
Biz must be slow and cash flow low as the KBGs are using their famous "Bar Bump" (BB) move to get the attention of the counter customer (s). The BB (not to be confused with the AMP BB acronym) was applied to moi at several KBs during recent outings; bump and ask for napkins, coasters, and "solly, ahjyoshi", with a smile and a wiggle.

Pharaoh, Moonflower, Splash, W8, GTee, Colorful, etc. The BB action is getting around using the kimchee wireless; anything that works they going try use 'them. They also brush against you at the counter with their chichis and smile. Seen that look and feel before. Then remembered that's what sharks do before they bite and rip. Could it be true for the KBGs? Anyone else experiencing or seeing this old tactic used?

Pursuer
06-01-11, 18:49
I want to compile a list of KBG's language usage:

1. Add 'ie' or 'Y' to every noun. Of course, best example "Buy me drinkie. Or "I give you massagie".

2."I boring". This one cracks me up every time I hear it. Means "I'm bored".

3."Eesh!" or "Aish!". Ay Sus in Korean.

Any others?

Iliketowatch
06-01-11, 23:26
Now that I'm revisiting the Waiks option, I can understand the loverboy / kbg relationship better. Talking with all sorts of girls now, I see the dumb-down factor of the kbg's. Everyone keeps telling the loverboy's to get a game, improve yourself, and get a strategy, but it's so much easier to just lower the bar. Yes, these guys are shooting too high looks-wise don't get me wrong, but they are strategically shooting lower than themselves on the self-esteem, intelligence, social skills level. Easier to lower yourself than to make changes to improve yourself. The major flaw is, these girls are of the new generation. Looks matter to them. Image is everything. The hollywood factor. Not smarts, not money, not niceness, when it comes to them getting romantically / emotionally involved with you. They want someone who is hotter than they are. Even the asian tourist (Korean's included) I speak to, don't have this dumb-down atitude. Their foreign FOBness does give them the impression of being lacking in self esteem, but it's just a non-familiarity with american culture. Shy, but definitely not bar dumb. I've mongered the bars for more than half my lifetime to take advantage of this "dumbness", but it was for always for sex. But for a gf or wife? That's just dumb. If you want to spend money to catch a kbg, may I suggest Dr. Flowers? This is not a joke or mock. I am serious. When in rome, do as the roman's do. When in a kb, do as the kbg's do. Plastic surgery baby. That's the real secret, if you looking for one. Your money better spent IMHO.

Iliketowatch
06-01-11, 23:40
I want to compile a list of KBG's language usage:

1. Add 'ie' or 'Y' to every noun. Of course, best example "Buy me drinkie. Or "I give you massagie".

2."I boring". This one cracks me up every time I hear it. Means "I'm bored".

3."Eesh!" or "Aish!". Ay Sus in Korean.

Any others?Hey Pursuer. You actually listen to what these girls are saying? Just joking bruddah. I'll see if I can think of any.

Aflack
06-01-11, 23:53
I want to compile a list of KBG's language usage. Any others?1."Bottumshup" = Bottoms Up.

2."He Get Angury" = A Penile Erection.

3."Ailaikieu" = I Want A Drink.

4."Ship Pal Lom Ah" = I Love Eu.

5."Eu the Best" = I Want A Drink.

6."Whe Gure, Pyong Shing" = Nice To See You Again

7. Shyaddapu Eu" = Thanks For Your Input

Oldee
06-02-11, 00:17
Biz must be slow and cash flow low as the KBGs are using their famous "Bar Bump" (BB) move to get the attention of the counter customer (s). The BB (not to be confused with the AMP BB acronym) was applied to moi at several KBs during recent outings; bump and ask for napkins, coasters, and "solly, ahjyoshi", with a smile and a wiggle.

Pharaoh, Moonflower, Splash, W8, GTee, Colorful, etc. The BB action is getting around using the kimchee wireless; anything that works they going try use 'them. They also brush against you at the counter with their chichis and smile. Seen that look and feel before. Then remembered that's what sharks do before they bite and rip. Could it be true for the KBGs? Anyone else experiencing or seeing this old tactic used? Yeah, and the usuals, long time no see, (since last night) , Hi my name Kim Chee, can I sit with you, So slow today, can I have a gl drink, You look so good! You looks like young boy with your new haircut, etc. Etc.

H Mobius
06-02-11, 00:25
I want to compile a list of KBG's language usage:

1. Add 'ie' or 'Y' to every noun. Of course, best example "Buy me drinkie. Or "I give you massagie".

2."I boring". This one cracks me up every time I hear it. Means "I'm bored".

3."Eesh!" or "Aish!". Ay Sus in Korean.

Any others? How about that "expression", used mid-sentence, that sounds like someone imitating radio static? Perhaps that translates roughly to "WTF?" or "Fuken-A"? Not sure.

Then there's "Ai-goo!!!" which seems to mean "You shit-head"; and "Kaja", which seems to depend upon context but when used while towing you to a table, means "Let's go" but translates to "Let's get started ROBing you so I can hit the next putz."

Oldee
06-02-11, 00:27
I want to compile a list of KBG's language usage:

1. Add 'ie' or 'Y' to every noun. Of course, best example "Buy me drinkie. Or "I give you massagie".

2."I boring". This one cracks me up every time I hear it. Means "I'm bored".

3."Eesh!" or "Aish!". Ay Sus in Korean.

Any others? I must be getting senile, korenglish is same as pigin to me now so I don't notice. Aflack probably knows them all. The one comes to mind now is 20dolla. Pon pon. Seksee and budagu?

Iliketowatch
06-02-11, 00:45
Just saw on the news, KBFD is filming a korean reality show in HNL. They said it's kinda built around the amazing race, survivor series. What if they did a KBG reality competition show. Unleash the dogs! Oldee? Uki?

I'll get it started. Now who would win the:

Most days a barback can go without smiling (hint: could be longest airing TV show ever)

Iliketowatch
06-02-11, 00:57
How about that "expression", used mid-sentence, that sounds like someone imitating radio static?When I first heard that sound, I thought Oldee wsa at the next table and the girl was trying to clear his pubs from her throat. One day I decided to practice that sound. The girls hated that. Must be a only if you korean sound. Kinda like when the haoles say, 'How Zit Bruddah" or "the Kine", the locals hate when they try be local. Kuhgggg! I still laughing. Wonder what it really means?

Uki Eater
06-02-11, 03:24
Biz must be slow and cash flow low as the KBGs are using their famous "Bar Bump" (BB) move to get the attention of the counter customer (s). The BB (not to be confused with the AMP BB acronym) was applied to moi at several KBs during recent outings; bump and ask for napkins, coasters, and "solly, ahjyoshi", with a smile and a wiggle.

Pharaoh, Moonflower, Splash, W8, GTee, Colorful, etc. The BB action is getting around using the kimchee wireless; anything that works they going try use 'them. They also brush against you at the counter with their chichis and smile. Seen that look and feel before. Then remembered that's what sharks do before they bite and rip. Could it be true for the KBGs? Anyone else experiencing or seeing this old tactic used? Some BGs are so aggressive for a drink, she forces her way into sitting down even though you say no. You tell her you don't want company, but, she still stays there. My goodness. Got to love these hostess bars man. LOL.

Aflack
06-02-11, 03:39
How about that "expression", used mid-sentence, that sounds like someone imitating radio static? Perhaps that translates roughly to "WTF?" or "Fuken-A"? Not sure.Think that gutteral, clearing-the-throat sound is used for several instances. One is to put emphasis on what is being said or explained; another is to show dissatisfaction or contempt; used still as an unspoken warning.

Anyway, that's how it was explained by a K guy to me, so IMO. There are probably more nuances for that particular sound. Maybe the Unholy would know better about this, he being of K descent.

Oldee
06-02-11, 03:46
Every guy that goes to the kb's read these posts. I guarantee it. They all like know what each other thinking. Male hormonal curiosity. Cannot stop it. Cannot avoid it. Curiosity extreme. Even the guys who just like the nut and bolts posts, will read this thread, in silence. Cause no stop reading about sex. Local porn. Backyard babes. The cancer runs deep. I will even prove it you Oldee. You will see it with your own eyes. Here goes. If there is anyone out there who is NOT on this site, please post that I am wrong. You'll see. Do I have to be the only smart one here!I was waiting but I reluctantly got to say you was correct. Since you so smat, does that include all the bargirls too? Hi again all you princesses if so. Eh ILTW, no forget that Waiks not like the old days. They no do the hustle or snf kind dancing no more you know. Just in case you got senile like me and going try the old moves. Try the j ladies if get any older ones, they like local guys and their husbands all dorks so you get CHANCE! FYI, sumo wrestlers marry ONLY HOT movie stars / models. No joke braddah. Fat seksee cause everybody in japan skinny. You like hire me interpreter? 20dollar every 15 minute. No include drink.

Oldee
06-02-11, 04:40
Hey Uki, like go Waiks with ILTW and try score with the ladys? We all going wea I AM HAWAIIAN SUKEBE polo shirts to promote my business to the j market. If you other guys like come you got to buy my shirts. Am I smat or what? This new concept of TRYING to buy the ladies drinks instead of trying NOT to buy is intriguing to me. I think I did that in a galaxy far far away long ago but no can remember.

Uki Eater
06-02-11, 05:12
Hey Uki, like go Waiks with ILTW and try score with the ladys? We all going wea I AM HAWAIIAN SUKEBE polo shirts to promote my business to the j market. If you other guys like come you got to buy my shirts. Am I smat or what? This new concept of TRYING to buy the ladies drinks instead of trying NOT to buy is intriguing to me. I think I did that in a galaxy far far away long ago but no can remember.Why not? Pretty bored of KB that I rarely go KB. Hehe, I remember telling a KBG: "I'm bored. Entertain me please. Sing, Dance, Strip." It's good fun causing trouble to these BGs. Hehe.

Hey Oldee, too bad you didn't come across this site when this BG from one of the bars signed up and started putting in her 2 cents. Was interesting. I think I was still a regular member.

Oldee
06-02-11, 05:29
Why not? Pretty bored of KB that I rarely go KB. Hehe, I remember telling a KBG: "I'm bored. Entertain me please. Sing, Dance, Strip." It's good fun causing trouble to these BGs. Hehe.

Hey Oldee, too bad you didn't come across this site when this BG from one of the bars signed up and started putting in her 2 cents. Was interesting. I think I was still a regular member. Would be fun debating a kbg I think. I knew about this forum and even a previous one FROM kbgs 10years ago. Like most guys, wasnt interested in reading, just playing, LOL. What you think Uki, get alot of kbgs read here? I know must have some, but doubt that many or am I wrong?

Uki Eater
06-02-11, 05:44
What you think Uki, get alot of kbgs read here? I know must have some, but doubt that many or am I wrong?Yup. BGs, AMP girls and MT read this forum. Was funny man. Had mongers turning on each other when that BG came on this forum. A couple of guys met up with her at the bar.

I'm not surprised if she still comes on here to read.

John Ross
06-02-11, 09:18
Hey Oldee, too bad you didn't come across this site when this BG from one of the bars signed up and started putting in her 2 cents. Was interesting. I think I was still a regular member.I remember that. I think it was about 2 years ago and the girl was either a local or Korean raised on the mainland as she wrote cogent arguments / retorts. I thought she was at Camelot or was that another cat fight. Didn't some guys meet up with her in Kalihi?

Aflack
06-02-11, 13:02
Yup. BGs, AMP girls and MT read this forum. Was funny man. Had mongers turning on each other when that BG came on this forum. A couple of guys met up with her at the bar.********** caused quite a stir here; deemed a "troll" by one or two posters who allegedly knew where it worked and who it was. It was supposedly a wahine of mixed Asian / Latin descent.

There was another one who posted here as? Forget already!

Aflack
06-02-11, 13:42
7. Shyaddapu Eu" = Thanks For Your Input8."You handsome; you smart; you the best." = You're A Dumb Shmuck.

9."Shimshime" = I Boring.

10."Chirahane" = Yeah, Right; Screw You

Oldee
06-02-11, 13:46
I remember that. I think it was about 2 years ago and the girl was either a local or Korean raised on the mainland as she wrote cogent arguments / retorts. I thought she was at Camelot or was that another cat fight. Didn't some guys meet up with her in Kalihi?I'd love to hear the view from the girls side. Especially now that bars suck and slow. Not many bar reports recently and the other thread back to being mostly commentary, hehe.

Aflack
06-02-11, 13:56
Yup. BGs, AMP girls and MT read this forum.If not them then their supporters, employees, & others are reporting. Can tell because if the remarks here are deemed to affect their business, corrections are made quickly to service and personnel deficiencies.

Naturally, it's hard to control the independent contractors but that's when effective management controls and protects the business. In the KBs management is totally raw and amateurish, IMO.

Uki Eater
06-02-11, 13:59
I'd love to hear the view from the girls side. Especially now that bars suck and slow. Not many bar reports recently and the other thread back to being mostly commentary, hehe.Some of the members on here who met her at the bar said she was. I believe one of the bars in Kalihi. She came on as several different names. One of them being H0stess808. I think some guys was getting attracted to her. Shit, even me. LOL. I was getting aroused. I should have saved as much of the posts but, Jackson deleted most of it. There is a few I still see in "The mind of a Korean working girl" thread.

Aflack
06-02-11, 14:41
A summary of what the KBGs try to create:

1. A false feeling of intimacy, access, & wholesomeness between them and the customer.

2. A "no boundaries" connection between only you and her; you the only one.

3. Direct connection between the "star" and fan.

4. A hollow, zombie-like, brainwashed follower who will be discarded without notice.

A summary of what I create:

1. The KBG as an inferior, secondary, and untrustworthy (without stating or treating them as such) being. Business is business; attacking the KB persona, not the person.

2. A customer who uses prior knowledge and experience to create personal wisdom without stating it aloud.

3. Mutual respect. I fully understand the circumstances and I am the customer. They have a job to do in order to survive.

Iliketowatch
06-02-11, 15:15
Some of the members on here who met her at the bar said she was. I believe one of the bars in Kalihi. She came on as several different names. One of them being H0stess808. I think some guys was getting attracted to her. Shit, even me. LOL. I was getting aroused. I should have saved as much of the posts but, Jackson deleted most of it. There is a few I still see in "The mind of a Korean working girl" thread.Best I recall. The posts were jaded. Meaning, it had a "local","americanized" bar viewpoint. Got to remember, most FOB k-girls cannot write in english, or are real easy to detect. They may learn to speak the english language, and sometimes even read a menu, but writing is a rare acquired skill. Getting a point of view from a "real" kng, would mean someone other than her was being a ghost writer for her. BF? Jealous bf? Monger messing with you? And just because she writes, doesn't mean she now has to tell the truth. They can lie through their fingers just as well. What most guys liked about her, was she could hold a conversation (good or bad) , and this was a big change from what they were used to in the bars. No more larry price imitations. Sorry larry. But the truth for some guys was too much to take. So they went on a witch (be*tch) hunt. Oh well. She was dead on, on some of her points. Never turn down info. Like a buffet. You don't have to like everything, just put what agrees with you on your plate and move on. There a lot of tasty bits among the spread. I guess it was tough eating crow.

Iliketowatch
06-02-11, 16:00
A summary of what the KBGs try to create:

1. A false feeling of intimacy, access, & wholesomeness between them and the customer.

2. A "no boundaries" connection between only you and her; you the only one.

3. Direct connection between the "star" and fan.

4. A hollow, zombie-like, brainwashed follower who will be discarded without notice.

A summary of what I create:

1. The KBG as an inferior, secondary, and untrustworthy (without stating or treating them as such) being. Business is business; attacking the KB persona, not the person.

2. A customer who uses prior knowledge and experience to create personal wisdom without stating it aloud.

3. Mutual respect. I fully understand the circumstances and I am the customer. They have a job to do in order to survive.Your post title should be: A summary from a soon to be extinct kber.

Strategy well performed!

Iliketowatch
06-02-11, 16:02
I'd love to hear the view from the girls side. Especially now that bars suck and slow. Not many bar reports recently and the other thread back to being mostly commentary, hehe.Amazing how a little attention from a chick, even just on a thread, will get the guys aroused. We are all dogs here. She should have set an 900 number and really cashed in.

Iliketowatch
06-02-11, 16:27
As I sat at the bar, three local guys sat next to me. Late 30's or early 40's. Newbies. I could tell. They asked me if I always come here. That was the clincher. They scoped the girls. And when I told them,"This one is new". Their reply to each other was,"I don't like the way she dresses","I don't like her hair color", She's too tall". The number one response to see if they nani hunting or gf hunting. We losing the war, man. What does dress, hair, height have to do with sex? Nadda. They hunting for gf's. New recruits. They loading up the front lines. I had to retreat. They didn't ask me for help or advise so they were spared my speech. They knew exactly what they were doing. Didn't stay around long enough to see if they actually bought anyone a drink. But I have my guesses. Hope you get the A-hole bomb almost completed. Might have to nuke the joint like one roach fogger or we going have to surrender.

Iliketowatch
06-02-11, 16:37
I was waiting but I reluctantly got to say you was correct. Since you so smat, does that include all the bargirls too? Hi again all you princesses if so. Eh ILTW, no forget that Waiks not like the old days. They no do the hustle or snf kind dancing no more you know. Just in case you got senile like me and going try the old moves. Try the j ladies if get any older ones, they like local guys and their husbands all dorks so you get CHANCE! FYI, sumo wrestlers marry ONLY HOT movie stars / models. No joke braddah. Fat seksee cause everybody in japan skinny. You like hire me interpreter? 20dollar every 15 minute. No include drink.Surprising, most can speak decent english. Better than the kbg's. And got quite a few late 30's to late 40's divorced MILF's. Sick of their countryman, looking for local talent. Might even print up some biz cards with my personal island tour service to hand to the young ones. Hey, just pay for my gas and I'll be your host for the day. Good way to learn the language. Still trying to get past the teeth. No like my loose skin get caught in one missaligned incisor.

Oldee
06-02-11, 18:21
A friend of mine recently overheard a guy at EV say "I don't want to just be your bar boyfriend" to the kbg or something to that effect. I'm thinking that guy must read the forums or his buddy told him about bar bf. Anyhow, he was trying to make her his real gf I guess and of course she knows how to play him. Probably got the same defense speech with her 300 bfs. Now that EV is a no play zone, you will have an easier time identifying the loverboys. Of course we sukebe guys going too sometimes to kick back but not much. I remember everyone sang the praises of Maya's being the best bar last year, (never agreed) , even tho they had few play girls and service sucked. They did however have alot of hotties, loverboy heaven! If you are that guy trying to get that kbg or one of the many guys trying same and read the forums, why don't you post? Maybe we can help you score or have inside info on a particular girl. No Shame. I protect you from ILTW and Uki. If you don't post, I going let go ILTW's leash since we assume we talking to the wall.

Oldee
06-02-11, 19:01
In the KBs management is totally raw and amateurish, IMO.I agree. Even though we say how bad service, rude ripoff, unclean, etc etc, they don't care. Yet they read the forums and ask members about whats written. You informers, you are just fooling yourselves and probably getting played the most. How's it feel to be a slave? And you girls that ask about the forum, ask here not at the bar! And guys, tell us who ask you so we know who conected to informers or read the forums. Those are kbgs I probably would not patronize.

Uki Eater
06-02-11, 19:47
It's obvious the hostess bars are slow these days. In your opinion, what do you want to see changed or improved that would motivate people to go bars? Or, you just plain tired of it already that you don't care? For me, one reason is just not enough eye candy to look at.

Aflack
06-02-11, 20:17
Would be fun debating a kbg I think. What you think Uki, get alot of kbgs read here? I know must have some, but doubt that many or am I wrong?Although there are legitimate posters as contributors, get plenty pranksters using diversion and controversy as sport. There needs to be more participation by others in order to validate the claims of others; the truths and whomever is reputable (or not) can be sifted later.

Debates and arguments with KBGs would be entertaining if all parties were legitimate; then what everybody posts would be valid, in their opinion. In other words, need more "real" posters who can lend truths to posts about various topics.

BTW, just think if the KBGs worked their "magic" anywhere else like they do here. No comment.

Oldee
06-02-11, 20:27
It's obvious the hostess bars are slow these days. In your opinion, what do you want to see changed or improved that would motivate people to go bars? Or, you just plain tired of it already that you don't care? For me, one reason is just not enough eye candy to look at.Haha, we know not going make difference what we say but here's my wish. More hot looking play girls, (I dream big) , better service at some bars, girls drinking slower, but mostly guys buying LESS drinks overall so more motivated bgs for play.

Iliketowatch
06-02-11, 20:42
It's obvious the hostess bars are slow these days. In your opinion, what do you want to see changed or improved that would motivate people to go bars? Or, you just plain tired of it already that you don't care? For me, one reason is just not enough eye candy to look at.Remember when the kb's were deemed taboo. They had a dirty mystery to them. The "good" boys were too scared to enter. You only saw t-shirt customers, no sign of aloha wear. The "good" boys only dared to try and sneak a peek into the tinted doors, from their cars while they were waiting at the stoplights on keeamoku. It was a clubhouse for the pervs. The true man cave. We drove up in trucks and vans. No fancy european cars to be seen. The girls all knew what we wanted. They were the best teases. Teases in a good way. Physical teases not emotional teases. They played with your dick not your mind. Although some guys did fall into their emotional spell, most got their thrills from their bodies. Hell even I was scared the first time my older friends dragged me into the bar. They had to bribe me with free beer. It had that nasty edge to it. It had the smell of sex. And I had to drink bud. No green bottles then. The eye candy wasn't as quality as it is with this generation, but the sluttiness made up for it. They want a drinkee, they no ask you verbally, they ask you touchily (is that a word?). The more you hold out, the bolder they got. Both in what they were willing to show you and what they were willing to grab on you. Even the mama / owner got in the act. The pupus were choke. And ono too. These 1st generation kbg's could cook. Would a bar like this motivate more guys to go now? No. Too many loverboys. They no like one slutty gf, although they don't know what I doing to their girl after they leave. What they don't know, won't hurt them. Maybe one mama will see the light, but I not holding my breath. These mamas too concerned with their own image of being a business owner, not a kb owner. They think they running one restaurant. So I guess, I don't care.

Uki Eater
06-02-11, 20:52
Haha, we know not going make difference what we say but here's my wish. More hot looking play girls, (I dream big) , better service at some bars, girls drinking slower, but mostly guys buying LESS drinks overall so more motivated bgs for play.I agree Oldee.

I try invite guys who don't go hostess bars, here's their answer: "Nah, I no like spend money buying $20 drinks just to have someone sit next to me" I guess I don't blame them. They really don't see the point in spending $20 drinks just to talk story with a BG.

Iliketowatch
06-02-11, 22:25
I agree Oldee.

I try invite guys who don't go hostess bars, here's their answer: "Nah, I no like spend money buying $20 drinks just to have someone sit next to me" I guess I don't blame them. They really don't see the point in spending $20 drinks just to talk story with a BG. Why, because your friends are not pabo loverboys. They are mamas best customer. Come everyday. Don't mind when mama drags his girls away for a while. Buys drinks without a fight. No need worry about liq. Com. Rules being broken. And unlike the house customer, she don't have to feed him. He evens bring his own food. How good is that? Happy being led on forever. A lifetime customer. Do you blame her? Us pervs only happy get cheap beer or maybe just eye candy, everything else we not getting. He getting everything he wants, only thing he don't have, a gf. He thinks he's only one step away, and thinks we are 99 steps away. But 99 small steps to sex is easier to reach than one large step to scoring gf. The yin and yang of the bar.

Aflack
06-03-11, 00:59
I try invite guys who don't go hostess bars, here's their answer: "Nah, I no like spend money buying $20 drinks just to have someone sit next to me" I guess I don't blame them. They really don't see the point in spending $20 drinks just to talk story with a BG.I questioned a bar owner about how long she thought the KBs would last in Hawaii. She responded (in paraphrase)"Ten more years, I thinka. Now days girls not like before; they don't care about the house, only themselves." That was seven (7) years ago. Who or what's next?

H Mobius
06-03-11, 01:09
* caused quite a stir here; deemed a "troll" by one or two posters who allegedly knew where it worked and who it was. It was supposedly a wahine of mixed Asian / Latin descent.

There was another one who posted here as? Forget already! I remember Hostess 808 (now "retired" from the Forum). She was at what is now One 2 Go.

The other from just last year was Yoboliscious, who revealed herself here as Alisa, last reported working at Spotlite.

Aflack
06-03-11, 01:37
I remember Hostess 808 (now "retired" from the Forum). She was at what is now One 2 Go. The other from just last year was Yoboliscious, who revealed herself here as Alisa, last reported working at Spotlite.Yeah, those two! I thought another of the wahine posters worked at Moonflower (was that Alisa?) and someone came real close to IDing her (JR?) in the flesh by what she was wearing one evening.

Iliketowatch
06-03-11, 01:43
Did you read the other thread?

Now do you know why the lurkers don't post.

Iliketowatch
06-03-11, 02:07
I questioned a bar owner about how long she thought the KBs would last in Hawaii. She responded (in paraphrase)"Ten more years, I thinka. Now days girls not like before; they don't care about the house, only themselves." That was seven (7) years ago. Who or what's next?I've wondered for the last 3 years, how they stay in biz. Yeah, I spend about a $100 a week on beer, but how many me's do they need to pay the rent. I heard betty's rent for butterfly is over $20g's a month. The there's electicity, cleaning, etc. How is TC doing it? Does she have a magical printer? Why hasn't she appeared on the cover of hawaii business? Biz woman of the year. Net less than expenses and still be open. A run for governor, maybe? Balance the budget before you can pound a six pack. Does add up in my pocketbook. Any ideas?