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Talk down to people? He talked down to me. A post that only has my name and he doesn't know what's up with these girls and I must have fallen and bumped my head? You sound like the kind of guy that believes women belong in the kitchen. I'm allowed to speak when something pertains to me.
I'm risking getting COVID everyday. I stayed home for months. Not collecting unemployment, never having any kind of gov assistance, and not hitting one of you up EVER for a handout. I can charge whatever I want to. I'm not a junkie, I pay my taxes, and I'm reliable. HighLifeMan can defend himself you both are old enough to be my father. I already regret responding to this but I will never feel bad for cutting hhr during a pandemic and raising my price since becoming independent.I will give you that I didn't read his comment I apologize for that. However, the tone and remark about leaving because someone complained about 250 was what got me. It's this forums purpose to express opinions on performance, price, ect. If you can get 350 an hour I am happy for you. You are welcome to do as you please in regards to how you conduct business. I usually don't even read this section because if I wanted drama I would get a girlfriend. I stumbled in here by accident. Also, I may be numerically able to be your father I do not possess the will or desire to have children. So anyway have a good day.
Look little girl throw your temper tantrum some place else. Don't tell me you pay taxes WE ALL PAY TAXES, Who the hell you trying to bullshit, OLD ENOUGH TO BE YOUR FATHER! The older men have more money don't they. That's what your after more money, Then get out of the business. And COV19 so you didn't put ads up who cares. Why don't you put it up no men over 30 why not you don't like older men but its all money' Or do this Upgrade your clients to 20 to 25 year olds. There's more chance of getting COV19 now than before One thing for sure your the Queen of horseshit. Hey I'm 68 Too fucking old for you. LOL Lenny6746.
Look little girl throw your temper tantrum some place else. Don't tell me you pay taxes WE ALL PAY TAXES, Who the hell you trying to bullshit, OLD ENOUGH TO BE YOUR FATHER! The older men have more money don't they. That's what your after more money, Then get out of the business. And COV19 so you didn't put ads up who cares. Why don't you put it up no men over 30 why not you don't like older men but its all money' Or do this Upgrade your clients to 20 to 25 year olds. There's more chance of getting COV19 now than before One thing for sure your the Queen of horseshit. Hey I'm 68 Too fucking old for you. LOL Lenny6746.Oh Lenny you make me giggle, I think it's time for your afternoon nap boomer.
I will give you that I didn't read his comment I apologize for that. However, the tone and remark about leaving because someone complained about 250 was what got me. It's this forums purpose to express opinions on performance, price, ect. If you can get 350 an hour I am happy for you. You are welcome to do as you please in regards to how you conduct business. I usually don't even read this section because if I wanted drama I would get a girlfriend. I stumbled in here by accident. Also, I may be numerically able to be your father I do not possess the will or desire to have children. So anyway have a good day.Thanks for the apology, I never said I was leaving I said and I quote "I don't know if hhr will ever come back. I may decide tomorrow I don't want to do this anymore and I may not come back".
Meaning one day, I'll disappear. I don't believe in drawing a bunch of attention to myself by announcing a "retirement" I think it's tacky and I don't really care for goodbyes.
Happy Labor Day.
Yep took my afternoon nap filling up a 25 yr old sorry I read this late I had to take her home. LOL.
FortunateSon1
09-07-20, 22:49
Hello everyone D Nut I am with you on this I am not paying that much they must fallen & bumped thier head. I know what's crazy like a month ago I contacted Ryyann that used to be with Steve of EE I seen her several times she told me You've seen me before so it's 250 all new people are 350 an hour I said no way When she was with Steve it was 150 hhr I mean she a nice girl a nice looking girl but no way am I paying that sorry. Thats ok I have a utr I see I just figured something different. I don't know what's up with these chick's Now a day's. Plus I think we really need some new material it's really became slim Pickens around here. Well everyone take care have a good one.I agree that a lot of the pricing seems to be crazy out of line. However, I don't think that's the case for the one lady you mentioned. I'm not really interested in the lowest price tag I can find. It's the old quality vs quantity argument. I would rather have 1 hour of great fun with a lovely young lady, who has a really good personality in a very nice hotel than 5 or 6 BJ's from street walkers in my car. She answers when you contact, whether she's available or not, keeps appointments, is clean and ready on time. That's what I'm looking for. Everyone has different tastes and I think her request is reasonable for what is offered. Now the new people popping up on Eros for 4, 5, or 6 are not going to ever hear from me.
Thanks for the apology, I never said I was leaving I said and I quote "I don't know if hhr will ever come back. I may decide tomorrow I don't want to do this anymore and I may not come back".
Meaning one day, I'll disappear. I don't believe in drawing a bunch of attention to myself by announcing a "retirement" I think it's tacky and I don't really care for goodbyes.
Happy Labor Day.Whether you do away with half hour or not idc. As far s your pricing don't care get what you can when you can. The talking point I found off putting was about leaving because someone questioned 250 an hour. People are always going to question the worth of a commodity, especially one as subjective as looks, or sexual performance.
Whether you do away with half hour or not idc. As far s your pricing don't care get what you can when you can. The talking point I found off putting was about leaving because someone questioned 250 an hour. People are always going to question the worth of a commodity, especially one as subjective as looks, or sexual performance.Bullets I think you may have mis-read the lady's post. She never mentioned anything about moving in her original post, she said "if she didn't live here (and was a traveling escort) that she probably wouldn't come here because the market here is for lower priced escorts and not the higher priced 250-400 hr. " I have no dog in this fight but there are markets where girls can charge more and Cincinnati isn't one of them. That's all she said. Hell if she can get $350 and hour good for her. I've seen her a couple times and she's a great companion. I can't afford to see her at $350 so I choose not to. I'm sure she would gladly accept me at the grandfathered rate of 250 but even that's a little steep for me at this time.
Kyfordboy85
09-08-20, 12:50
https://www.rcnky.com/articles/2020/09/08/two-shot-covingtons-city-heights?fbclid=IwAR06TNFEkl56jG3f3dTPqx7LNG_msEesUO1EcCKcZlNlo52BrRP3AkJXPWQ
Bullets I think you may have mis-read the lady's post. She never mentioned anything about moving in her original post, she said "if she didn't live here (and was a traveling escort) that she probably wouldn't come here because the market here is for lower priced escorts and not the higher priced 250-400 hr. " I have no dog in this fight but there are markets where girls can charge more and Cincinnati isn't one of them. That's all she said. Hell if she can get $350 and hour good for her. I've seen her a couple times and she's a great companion. I can't afford to see her at $350 so I choose not to. I'm sure she would gladly accept me at the grandfathered rate of 250 but even that's a little steep for me at this time.Below Me, you deserve a prize!
I didn't plan to continue with this today but here we are. Bullet you didn't even read what was said to me you just jumped into something for what reason only you know. I don't know what this is doing for you. It's bringing me down, it's not fun, not positive.
You brought up multiple times my tone? I didn't know that was possible over text. If I was a man something like my "tone" would never be brought up. It's unfair for me to sit here and be called "little girl" and told I'm throwing a"temper tantrum". I hope that none of your sisters, daughters, nieces, wives, etc. Feel like their opinions don't matter or feel like they have to be silent because of their gender.
HighLifeMan and I have spoke privately about this matter and there are no hard feelings from either side.
I don't know what else I can say about this other than thank the people who have chimed in on my behalf, sent me pm's, or text checking on me or giving me advice.
UPullAndPay4
09-08-20, 14:04
Has anyone ever came across a situation where a ad came up and it was a friends granddaughter? Would love to go for it but my big head is winning this argument! To much could happen! Thoughts?
I would just like to recommend that all my friends avoid the Comfort Inn in Blue Ash. That is all.
https://www.rcnky.com/articles/2020/09/08/two-shot-covingtons-city-heights?fbclid=IwAR06TNFEkl56jG3f3dTPqx7LNG_msEesUO1EcCKcZlNlo52BrRP3AkJXPWQYea don't go to a housing project morale of the story, or bring a gun.
I would just like to recommend that all my friends avoid the Comfort Inn in Blue Ash. That is all.Need a little more reason than just your say so. Agreed Blue Ash can be a hot area for sure but how about some specifics as to why that specific hotel?
Below Me, you deserve a prize!
I didn't plan to continue with this today but here we are. Bullet you didn't even read what was said to me you just jumped into something for what reason only you know. I don't know what this is doing for you. It's bringing me down, it's not fun, not positive.
You brought up multiple times my tone? I didn't know that was possible over text. If I was a man something like my "tone" would never be brought up. It's unfair for me to sit here and be called "little girl" and told I'm throwing a"temper tantrum". I hope that none of your sisters, daughters, nieces, wives, etc. Feel like their opinions don't matter or feel like they have to be silent because of their gender.
HighLifeMan and I have spoke privately about this matter and there are no hard feelings from either side.
I don't know what else I can say about this other than thank the people who have chimed in on my behalf, sent me pm's, or text checking on me or giving me advice.I did read his comment I just wanted to end this. But here we are.
WanderingAbout
09-08-20, 17:40
I would just like to recommend that all my friends avoid the Comfort Inn in Blue Ash. That is all.And every other stay location in BA.
WanderingAbout
09-08-20, 17:44
Has anyone ever came across a situation where a ad came up and it was a friends granddaughter? Would love to go for it but my big head is winning this argument! To much could happen! Thoughts?Post a link and someone on here may let you know how she is.
Bullets I think you may have mis-read the lady's post. She never mentioned anything about moving in her original post, she said "if she didn't live here (and was a traveling escort) that she probably wouldn't come here because the market here is for lower priced escorts and not the higher priced 250-400 hr. " I have no dog in this fight but there are markets where girls can charge more and Cincinnati isn't one of them. That's all she said. Hell if she can get $350 and hour good for her. I've seen her a couple times and she's a great companion. I can't afford to see her at $350 so I choose not to. I'm sure she would gladly accept me at the grandfathered rate of 250 but even that's a little steep for me at this time.I am well aware that there are other markets where woman can charge more. My complaint as I stated was that on this board we discuss price and service. I was defending the persons right to say he would never pay that amount. It's just an opinion, but if you are going to throw your thoughts out there. Then someone might offer a different thought on the matter. She can charge whatever she wants to, and some can say they won't pay it.
IlvblckGrls
09-08-20, 17:57
I am well aware that there are other markets where woman can charge more. My complaint as I stated was that on this board we discuss price and service. I was defending the persons right to say he would never pay that amount. It's just an opinion, but if you are going to throw your thoughts out there. Then someone might offer a different thought on the matter. She can charge whatever she wants to, and some can say they won't pay it.Well, for what it's worth, I have some experience with girls who charge a bit more now, versus the standard prices from the past. For example, I recently reviewed a girl named Sasha. I had a GREAT time with her. 100 for hhr.
Then, as some of you know, my ATF is Thalia. She comes with a higher donation. But, honestly, her level of service is so profoundly different than anyone else I've met, of course she can charge more! You get more for it! If I hook up with a girl at around the 100 level, I'll feel good for a day but I'll already have the itch again in a day or two. When I see Thalia, though, she leaves me feeling satisfied such that I can ride that high for a couple weeks! LOL.
Sir LanceLicksalot
09-08-20, 18:11
Why worry? She sure as hell is not going to tell her grandparents she just fucked one of their friends. Unless they already know she's a prostitute. In a situation like this, she has as much to lose as you, if not more. She might be doing this for drug money so they'll find out she is an addict as well as how she spreads her legs to feed her habit.
Share her ad link and I know someone will see her or maybe already has. If she's cute I am pretty sure there is someone who has. If she's advertising she isn't a real Newbie or she has a pimp.
Has anyone ever came across a situation where a ad came up and it was a friends granddaughter? Would love to go for it but my big head is winning this argument! To much could happen! Thoughts?
I don't blame you one bit for doing hr only. Lots of factors go into the pricing of a service, that many people don't take into account. If you do hhr again, let me know. I just don't get much free time.
Thanks for the apology, I never said I was leaving I said and I quote "I don't know if hhr will ever come back. I may decide tomorrow I don't want to do this anymore and I may not come back".
Meaning one day, I'll disappear. I don't believe in drawing a bunch of attention to myself by announcing a "retirement" I think it's tacky and I don't really care for goodbyes.
Happy Labor Day.
Has anyone ever came across a situation where a ad came up and it was a friends granddaughter? Would love to go for it but my big head is winning this argument! To much could happen! Thoughts?Your boss' boss announces one morning that your boss called in sick and won't be in that day. During lunch, you decide to blow off the rest of the day and go to the strip club. When you get there, you see your boss and he sees you. Neither one of you was supposed to be there and to let anyone know would just ensure both of you are fired. The solution is to just order a round of drinks and enjoy the show.
Has anyone ever came across a situation where a ad came up and it was a friends granddaughter? Would love to go for it but my big head is winning this argument! To much could happen! Thoughts?I banged a friend of mines niece didn't know it until we got to talking LOL.
Vinnie Kramer
09-09-20, 11:40
Last time I saw a mouth like that, it had a hook in it.
I've reviewed Luscious Gal on here before.
https://tryst.link/escort/lusciousgal
Anyway, I discovered she has a channel on Pornhub where she posted this BJ video!
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5f245f863b9dd
And before anyone asks, no, that isn't me! LOL. I don't come close to being a two-hander!
I've found myself in a quandary. Maybe someone can offer advise / a Hail Mary but really I'm just stuck I think. I've never had time for the sugarbaby game but recently was enticed to do so on Tinder. Absolutely gorgeous girl who flat out and unexpectedly asked me to make an offer. I said $$ and to my surprise she agreed. As we continued to chat I started noticing many similarities in our lifestyle / social scene. I dug around on FB and boom there she is and we have a million friends in common and she hangs out in similar circles -but like a decade younger than me. And that's it really. She's bangin hot, digs me, is ready to meet face to face tomorrow (no fee to meet), and $$ is a great price for a girl of this caliber (based on what I've seen on the sugarbaby thread). But I can't risk it. If she shows 1 pic of me (she still hasnt seen a clear pic of my face) or describes 1 of my distinguishing features to a friend or something that could be the end of it all. How would she get a face pic you might ask. Well who knows but if she does and shares it there's a good chance I'm outed. Woe is me. The temptation is unbearable. Just needed to get that off my chest.
UPullAndPay4
09-10-20, 13:18
Why worry? She sure as hell is not going to tell her grandparents she just fucked one of their friends. Unless they already know she's a prostitute. In a situation like this, she has as much to lose as you, if not more. She might be doing this for drug money so they'll find out she is an addict as well as how she spreads her legs to feed her habit.
Share her ad link and I know someone will see her or maybe already has. If she's cute I am pretty sure there is someone who has. If she's advertising she isn't a real Newbie or she has a pimp.Not sure how long she has been in the business, don't go past my regulars often.
https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/53990997/
BackToZero
09-10-20, 13:41
I've found myself in a quandary. Maybe someone can offer advise / a Hail Mary but really I'm just stuck I think. I've never had time for the sugarbaby game but recently was enticed to do so on Tinder. Absolutely gorgeous girl who flat out and unexpectedly asked me to make an offer. I said $$ and to my surprise she agreed. As we continued to chat I started noticing many similarities in our lifestyle / social scene. I dug around on FB and boom there she is and we have a million friends in common and she hangs out in similar circles -but like a decade younger than me. And that's it really. She's bangin hot, digs me, is ready to meet face to face tomorrow (no fee to meet), and $$ is a great price for a girl of this caliber (based on what I've seen on the sugarbaby thread). But I can't risk it. If she shows 1 pic of me (she still hasnt seen a clear pic of my face) or describes 1 of my distinguishing features to a friend or something that could be the end of it all. How would she get a face pic you might ask. Well who knows but if she does and shares it there's a good chance I'm outed. Woe is me. The temptation is unbearable. Just needed to get that off my chest.Risky adventure, my friend. You could get extorted, maybe, or worse. Or you could have a discreet arrangement on your hands.
Never send pics initially that couldn't have been ripped from somewhere else like FB that way you could say you've been hacked. Obviously use a burner or text app.
Vinnie Kramer
09-10-20, 14:10
Are you married? If so, having Tinder seems risky enough already.
Or is she going to say I'm taking money to bang this guy to common friends? Seems low probability.
I've found myself in a quandary. Maybe someone can offer advise / a Hail Mary but really I'm just stuck I think. I've never had time for the sugarbaby game but recently was enticed to do so on Tinder. Absolutely gorgeous girl who flat out and unexpectedly asked me to make an offer. I said $$ and to my surprise she agreed. As we continued to chat I started noticing many similarities in our lifestyle / social scene. I dug around on FB and boom there she is and we have a million friends in common and she hangs out in similar circles -but like a decade younger than me. And that's it really. She's bangin hot, digs me, is ready to meet face to face tomorrow (no fee to meet), and $$ is a great price for a girl of this caliber (based on what I've seen on the sugarbaby thread). But I can't risk it. If she shows 1 pic of me (she still hasnt seen a clear pic of my face) or describes 1 of my distinguishing features to a friend or something that could be the end of it all. How would she get a face pic you might ask. Well who knows but if she does and shares it there's a good chance I'm outed. Woe is me. The temptation is unbearable. Just needed to get that off my chest.
I've found myself in a quandary. Maybe someone can offer advise / a Hail Mary but really I'm just stuck I think. I've never had time for the sugarbaby game but recently was enticed to do so on Tinder. Absolutely gorgeous girl who flat out and unexpectedly asked me to make an offer. I said $$ and to my surprise she agreed. As we continued to chat I started noticing many similarities in our lifestyle / social scene. I dug around on FB and boom there she is and we have a million friends in common and she hangs out in similar circles -but like a decade younger than me. And that's it really. She's bangin hot, digs me, is ready to meet face to face tomorrow (no fee to meet), and $$ is a great price for a girl of this caliber (based on what I've seen on the sugarbaby thread). But I can't risk it. If she shows 1 pic of me (she still hasnt seen a clear pic of my face) or describes 1 of my distinguishing features to a friend or something that could be the end of it all. How would she get a face pic you might ask. Well who knows but if she does and shares it there's a good chance I'm outed. Woe is me. The temptation is unbearable. Just needed to get that off my chest.A young girl banging an old man isn't even scandalous anymore. What's more embarrassing and who has more to lose? What is worse that people find out you paid for sex, or that people find out she had sex for money? Sounds like the USA and Russia in the arms race of the 1980's. They each had more than enough nuclear weapons to ensure each other's complete destruction. The threat of complete mutual destruction created a situation of détente.
Are you married? If so, having Tinder seems risky enough already. Yea it's hi risk already.
Or is she going to say I'm taking money to bang this guy to common friends? Seems low probability.I don't feel like most people other than relatives would care THST much if someone is a sugarbaby. Maybe that naive but these days sex / one night stands / porn / swinging etc are less taboo. Point being I have WAY more to risk I think that she does. Versus Ashley Madison where both are at equal risk. Anyway, I'm new to the Tinder and it is definitely a challenge and risky. She's just so hot.
John HandCock
09-10-20, 16:34
I've found myself in a quandary. Maybe someone can offer advise / a Hail Mary but really I'm just stuck I think. I've never had time for the sugarbaby game but recently was enticed to do so on Tinder. Absolutely gorgeous girl who flat out and unexpectedly asked me to make an offer. I said $$ and to my surprise she agreed. As we continued to chat I started noticing many similarities in our lifestyle / social scene. I dug around on FB and boom there she is and we have a million friends in common and she hangs out in similar circles -but like a decade younger than me. And that's it really. She's bangin hot, digs me, is ready to meet face to face tomorrow (no fee to meet), and $$ is a great price for a girl of this caliber (based on what I've seen on the sugarbaby thread). But I can't risk it. If she shows 1 pic of me (she still hasnt seen a clear pic of my face) or describes 1 of my distinguishing features to a friend or something that could be the end of it all. How would she get a face pic you might ask. Well who knows but if she does and shares it there's a good chance I'm outed. Woe is me. The temptation is unbearable. Just needed to get that off my chest.K you answered your own question, don't do it. But on the other hand is she going to tell friends she's fucking for money? The distinguishing features aspect is a head scrather tho LOL. If you had to dig deep to find her doubt she puts that effort in unless you give her some reason to suspect your not who you say you are.
Yea it's hi risk already.
I don't feel like most people other than relatives would care THST much if someone is a sugarbaby. Maybe that naive but these days sex / one night stands / porn / swinging etc are less taboo. Point being I have WAY more to risk I think that she does. Versus Ashley Madison where both are at equal risk. Anyway, I'm new to the Tinder and it is definitely a challenge and risky. She's just so hot.If it seems to risky then it is. Trust your gut. Better safe then divorced.
Send her my way.
I've found myself in a quandary. Maybe someone can offer advise / a Hail Mary but really I'm just stuck I think. I've never had time for the sugarbaby game but recently was enticed to do so on Tinder. Absolutely gorgeous girl who flat out and unexpectedly asked me to make an offer. I said $$ and to my surprise she agreed. As we continued to chat I started noticing many similarities in our lifestyle / social scene. I dug around on FB and boom there she is and we have a million friends in common and she hangs out in similar circles -but like a decade younger than me. And that's it really. She's bangin hot, digs me, is ready to meet face to face tomorrow (no fee to meet), and $$ is a great price for a girl of this caliber (based on what I've seen on the sugarbaby thread). But I can't risk it. If she shows 1 pic of me (she still hasnt seen a clear pic of my face) or describes 1 of my distinguishing features to a friend or something that could be the end of it all. How would she get a face pic you might ask. Well who knows but if she does and shares it there's a good chance I'm outed. Woe is me. The temptation is unbearable. Just needed to get that off my chest.
WanderingAbout
09-10-20, 21:19
Not sure how long she has been in the business, don't go past my regulars often. https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/53990997/Why? Why? Why in the world is this even a concern. No one with a mental disorder, blind as Stevie Wonder, or been in Lebanon for 30 years would do her. Hell even Francisco Franco wouldn't and he's been dead since 1975.
WanderingAbout
09-10-20, 21:25
There are 7. 5 Billion people in the world. 49% are woman. Don't let one pussy out of 3,675,000,000 pussies mess up your life. Do share her info so the rest of us, who want to, can enjoy her company.
I've found myself in a quandary. Maybe someone can offer advise / a Hail Mary but really I'm just stuck I think. I've never had time for the sugarbaby game but recently was enticed to do so on Tinder. Absolutely gorgeous girl who flat out and unexpectedly asked me to make an offer. I said $$ and to my surprise she agreed. As we continued to chat I started noticing many similarities in our lifestyle / social scene. I dug around on FB and boom there she is and we have a million friends in common and she hangs out in similar circles -but like a decade younger than me. And that's it really. She's bangin hot, digs me, is ready to meet face to face tomorrow (no fee to meet), and $$ is a great price for a girl of this caliber (based on what I've seen on the sugarbaby thread). But I can't risk it. If she shows 1 pic of me (she still hasnt seen a clear pic of my face) or describes 1 of my distinguishing features to a friend or something that could be the end of it all. How would she get a face pic you might ask. Well who knows but if she does and shares it there's a good chance I'm outed. Woe is me. The temptation is unbearable. Just needed to get that off my chest.
Franco?? That's some funny shit!
I don't want to disparage her, but 2 gun an hour?? C'Mon. Man!!
Why? Why? Why in the world is this even a concern. No one with a mental disorder, blind as Stevie Wonder, or been in Lebanon for 30 years would do her. Hell even Francisco Franco wouldn't and he's been dead since 1975.
MarblesKyle
09-11-20, 09:04
I've found myself in a quandary. Maybe someone can offer advise / a Hail Mary but really I'm just stuck I think. I've never had time for the sugarbaby game but recently was enticed to do so on Tinder. Absolutely gorgeous girl who flat out and unexpectedly asked me to make an offer. I said $$ and to my surprise she agreed. As we continued to chat I started noticing many similarities in our lifestyle / social scene. I dug around on FB and boom there she is and we have a million friends in common and she hangs out in similar circles -but like a decade younger than me. And that's it really. She's bangin hot, digs me, is ready to meet face to face tomorrow (no fee to meet), and $$ is a great price for a girl of this caliber (based on what I've seen on the sugarbaby thread). But I can't risk it. If she shows 1 pic of me (she still hasnt seen a clear pic of my face) or describes 1 of my distinguishing features to a friend or something that could be the end of it all. How would she get a face pic you might ask. Well who knows but if she does and shares it there's a good chance I'm outed. Woe is me. The temptation is unbearable. Just needed to get that off my chest.Like others have said, it depends what you have to lose.
I had a UTR a few years ago that I took on a few dates initially, and then the relationship morphed to where I would just go straight to her place for some action and leave. On our first date we went back to her apartment and got to talking over another drink and some music. Came to find out that she occasionally frequented a bar that I was a regular customer. I had never seen her in there before, but she knew one or two of the bartenders in there and even dropped the names of some other regulars. This made me a little nervous, but I was already there and about to seal the deal, so I went through with it. For about a week I worried about seeing her in public or her telling someone at the bar she went out with me. This was before I was using a burner phone or a fake name in the hobby. After a week or two I realized I was probably safe. I hadn't seen her at the bar, the mutual aquaintences who we both knew didn't say anything to me or act differently, and most importantly. My SO almost never went to the bar and didn't know anyone there.
So, I called her again and set up another date. I'm glad I did because it turned into like 10 months of the best sex I've ever had in my life. She probably isn't as hot as the one you are debating but man, the sex was crazy and she would do anything for $ per hour.
So, don't be afraid to take a shot if the risk / reward checks out for you. If you have an SO, I say don't do it. If there's no SO in your life, fire away.
Like another monger said, if she's respected by all of these mutual friends I can't imagine she's going to tell any of them that she's climbing on your rod for cash. You may be worried to have friends know you are in the hobby, but I would imagine she is too. This could blossom into a wonderful partnership between you two.
Thanks all for the input. Not going to go into much detail here but upon further chats we both realize we have too many friends in common and not to meet but be "friends" (will we ever chat again I doubt it). Sorry not going to share her link, just feels weird. Tinder is still a good ave I think, got to tweak my angle. Margins will be very slim I believe. Happy to share my approach to any senior with a SO who's interested. DM me. Not saying I've got this figured out, just working new angles because lustcrawler sucks, I like variety, enjoy the digital hunt, and who doesn't like free clean pussy.
Sugarbabyin is for ya'll unmarried mongers, or whatever. Good luck to ya in that regard. It's not for me.
Viva La USASG!
TechSticles
09-11-20, 15:39
Oh Lenny you make me giggle, I think it's time for your afternoon nap boomer.Just jumped on and following this one for a few. Love it. I think Ryann's right. Some of you guys do nothing but ***** and moan about prices. Dnut makes it pretty clear that he is in control of his wallet, so follow his advice. If you don't like her prices, then don't pay. She's probably keeping prices high so you whiny fuckers don't show up. Good practice if you ask me.
Sorry for all you guys that were hoping the pandemic would result in hot pussy for twenty bucks.
TechSticles
09-11-20, 15:45
I've found myself in a quandary. Maybe someone can offer advise / a Hail Mary but really I'm just stuck I think. I've never had time for the sugarbaby game but recently was enticed to do so on Tinder. Absolutely gorgeous girl who flat out and unexpectedly asked me to make an offer. I said $$ and to my surprise she agreed. As we continued to chat I started noticing many similarities in our lifestyle / social scene. I dug around on FB and boom there she is and we have a million friends in common and she hangs out in similar circles -but like a decade younger than me. And that's it really. She's bangin hot, digs me, is ready to meet face to face tomorrow (no fee to meet), and $$ is a great price for a girl of this caliber (based on what I've seen on the sugarbaby thread). But I can't risk it. If she shows 1 pic of me (she still hasnt seen a clear pic of my face) or describes 1 of my distinguishing features to a friend or something that could be the end of it all. How would she get a face pic you might ask. Well who knows but if she does and shares it there's a good chance I'm outed. Woe is me. The temptation is unbearable. Just needed to get that off my chest.I've only regretted not banging chicks I wanted to.
I don't give a fuck who you agree with. I don't believe I saw anything about 20 dollar pussy and COV19. Raising prices for whiny fuckers could be. That would leave you out too whiny fucker! She's not that pretty anyway just a average chick selling her ass for a high price, LOL.
I don't give a fuck who you agree with. I don't believe I saw anything about 20 dollar pussy and COV19. Raising prices for whiny fuckers could be. That would leave you out too whiny fucker! She's not that pretty anyway just a average chick selling her ass for a high price, LOL.Saw this movie and this line reminded me of you. Just saying.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/d79db3ba-437f-482c-a762-a7208dd05727
I don't give a fuck who you agree with. I don't believe I saw anything about 20 dollar pussy and COV19. Raising prices for whiny fuckers could be. That would leave you out too whiny fucker! She's not that pretty anyway just a average chick selling her ass for a high price, LOL.In a past life I used to volunteer at a place where I came in contact with a lot of street walkers 99.9% of the time they are people struggling with substance abuse, mental disorders, homelessness, and / or being trafficked. Lenny you are part of the problem and I can't help but want to shed a layer of skin anytime I read a report from you. Physical sickness, but then I chop it up that you are not all there either and should seek your own kind of help.
Your obsession with dollar amounts speaks volumes that you don't have it like that. Forty five dollar threesomes and Andrew Jackson lays. I don't give a damn about your two cents, you need it more than I do bud.
You're my new fav and we've never met. I'll start saving today and praying to the monger gods. Girls scrappy and got spunk! Fkn hot.
In a past life I used to volunteer at a place where I came in contact with a lot of street walkers 99.9% of the time they are people struggling with substance abuse, mental disorders, homelessness, and / or being trafficked. Lenny you are part of the problem and I can't help but want to shed a layer of skin anytime I read a report from you. Physical sickness, but then I chop it up that you are not all there either and should seek your own kind of help.
Your obsession with dollar amounts speaks volumes that you don't have it like that. Forty five dollar threesomes and Andrew Jackson lays. I don't give a damn about your two cents, you need it more than I do bud.Lenny, if you keep pissing off the providers, you won't have to worry about what they are charging, none will see you.
Vinnie Kramer
09-12-20, 14:09
I didn't know there was going to be a second act and I already threw away my popcorn.
I had Lenny on ignore for a while until I realized he's right up there with a monkey smoking a cigarette in the humor department.
In a past life I used to volunteer at a place where I came in contact with a lot of street walkers 99.9% of the time they are people struggling with substance abuse, mental disorders, homelessness, and / or being trafficked. Lenny you are part of the problem and I can't help but want to shed a layer of skin anytime I read a report from you. Physical sickness, but then I chop it up that you are not all there either and should seek your own kind of help.
Your obsession with dollar amounts speaks volumes that you don't have it like that. Forty five dollar threesomes and Andrew Jackson lays. I don't give a damn about your two cents, you need it more than I do bud.
I didn't know there was going to be a second act and I already threw away my popcorn.
I had Lenny on ignore for a while until I realized he's right up there with a monkey smoking a cigarette in the humor department.Ryann needs to get Lenny an early Christmas gift. Dynamite.
TheStang66
09-12-20, 14:42
You're my new fav and we've never met. I'll start saving today and praying to the monger gods. Girls scrappy and got spunk! Fkn hot.Definitely got my attention now. May have to look at a visit.
I didn't know there was going to be a second act and I already threw away my popcorn.
I had Lenny on ignore for a while until I realized he's right up there with a monkey smoking a cigarette in the humor department.Ryann needs to get Lenny a early Christmas gift. Dynamite.
Has anyone ever came across a situation where a ad came up and it was a friends granddaughter? Would love to go for it but my big head is winning this argument! To much could happen! Thoughts?It is interesting how certain situations and factors can make us interested in someone. I have passed by her ad many times. Looks is just one factor if you decide to see someone. Is she too ugly not to do? Some here say yes, but imo no. Everyone has different tastes in women. But you add in the excitement of sex with friend's granddaughter, that can add a different level of excitement that you might want to indulge in. I agree that she probably keeps her activities hidden from family. You planning on going to friend's house for family get together while granddaughter is there? Would make for an interesting time.
I think one of the things you pay for when seeing a provider is discretion. So just see if she honors that.
Has anyone ever came across a situation where a ad came up and it was a friends granddaughter? Would love to go for it but my big head is winning this argument! To much could happen! Thoughts?If this really has happened and its a fairly good friend of yours I would certainly pass. Especially if the girl is aware of you and your friendship with her grandfather. I see something going wrong there sooner or later.
WhereDreamsGo
09-13-20, 03:49
In a past life I used to volunteer at a place where I came in contact with a lot of street walkers 99.9% of the time they are people struggling with substance abuse, mental disorders, homelessness, and / or being trafficked. Lenny you are part of the problem and I can't help but want to shed a layer of skin anytime I read a report from you. Physical sickness, but then I chop it up that you are not all there either and should seek your own kind of help.
Your obsession with dollar amounts speaks volumes that you don't have it like that. Forty five dollar threesomes and Andrew Jackson lays. I don't give a damn about your two cents, you need it more than I do bud.Ordinarily I'm not a big fan of providers getting involved on the boards, but I enjoyed the input here.
Sir LanceLicksalot
09-13-20, 08:57
It is interesting how certain situations and factors can make us interested in someone. I have passed by her ad many times. Looks is just one factor if you decide to see someone. Is she too ugly not to do? Some here say yes, but imo no. Everyone has different tastes in women. But you add in the excitement of sex with friend's granddaughter, that can add a different level of excitement that you might want to indulge in. I agree that she probably keeps her activities hidden from family. You planning on going to friend's house for family get together while granddaughter is there? Would make for an interesting time.
I think one of the things you pay for when seeing a provider is discretion. So just see if she honors that.Did I miss something? Was a link posted? How do you know she is "ugly"?
John HandCock
09-13-20, 11:19
Has anyone ever came across a situation where a ad came up and it was a friends granddaughter? Would love to go for it but my big head is winning this argument! To much could happen! Thoughts?If you even entertained the thought your not much of a friend. This is why I consider sites like this just informational, not a brotherhood that so many like to tout. Your brother in arms would stick a knife 🔪 between your shoulder blades for your pussy. No honor amongst thieves can definitely be applied to mongors.
NineIncher
09-13-20, 12:26
ZZZZZZZzzzZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZzzzzzz. Lenny, save up your money and show her who's boss.
In a past life I used to volunteer at a place where I came in contact with a lot of street walkers 99.9% of the time they are people struggling with substance abuse, mental disorders, homelessness, and / or being trafficked. Lenny you are part of the problem and I can't help but want to shed a layer of skin anytime I read a report from you. Physical sickness, but then I chop it up that you are not all there either and should seek your own kind of help.
Your obsession with dollar amounts speaks volumes that you don't have it like that. Forty five dollar threesomes and Andrew Jackson lays. I don't give a damn about your two cents, you need it more than I do bud.
If this really has happened and its a fairly good friend of yours I would certainly pass. Especially if the girl is aware of you and your friendship with her grandfather. I see something going wrong there sooner or later.Warning: Dark joke zone ahead.
Any chance the grandfather is close to dying?
End of joke zone.
Did I miss something? Was a link posted? How do you know she is "ugly"?I was referring to Upullandpay4 question about his friend's grandaughter who advertises on escortbabylon.
Oh so you worked in a place where you learned the TRICKS of the trade. Imagine that!! Just look at you now! Wow what a make over. Have you ever tried to help these girls? Feed them clothe them get them into rehab? I have. I'm not talking about money amounts I'm talking about helping girls that need it. Its hard to do. Almost all the girls I see I'm friends with. I take them to their rehab if needed. I had one girl that was burned by her dope boy with cigs all over her body' I had her live with me and treated her burns every day. She healed and left on her own and thanked me for helping her. Find the real story before throwing stones. I read SHE CAN TAKE A POUNDING. Good for Miss Mary 222. Lenny6746.
Vinnie Kramer
09-14-20, 07:52
The thread got bifurcated at one point.
I was referring to Upullandpay4 question about his friend's grandaughter who advertises on escortbabylon.
Not sure how long she has been in the business, don't go past my regulars often.
https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/53990997/
Steveyy1776
09-14-20, 10:06
I think you both have done good to help people out. Well done Lenny on the things you have done. As far as Ryann, I've seen her multiple times. In our regular conversations we've talked about our volunteer work. She shared how the other week she took some blankets to some homeless ladies and also gave them some food and money. I suggested to her that giving money is not a good idea. But my point is that this girl does have a heart of gold. All this arguing reminds me of listening to my friends, fight over politics. .
Oh so you worked in a place where you learned the TRICKS of the trade. Imagine that!! Just look at you now! Wow what a make over. Have you ever tried to help these girls? Feed them clothe them get them into rehab? I have. I'm not talking about money amounts I'm talking about helping girls that need it. Its hard to do. Almost all the girls I see I'm friends with. I take them to their rehab if needed. I had one girl that was burned by her dope boy with cigs all over her body' I had her live with me and treated her burns every day. She healed and left on her own and thanked me for helping her. Find the real story before throwing stones. I read SHE CAN TAKE A POUNDING. Good for Miss Mary 222. Lenny6746.
Oh so you worked in a place where you learned the TRICKS of the trade. Imagine that!! Just look at you now! Wow what a make over. Have you ever tried to help these girls? Feed them clothe them get them into rehab? I have. I'm not talking about money amounts I'm talking about helping girls that need it. Its hard to do. Almost all the girls I see I'm friends with. I take them to their rehab if needed. I had one girl that was burned by her dope boy with cigs all over her body' I had her live with me and treated her burns every day. She healed and left on her own and thanked me for helping her. Find the real story before throwing stones. I read SHE CAN TAKE A POUNDING. Good for Miss Mary 222. Lenny6746.Lenny you got owned, purely owned, and you're still coming back at it? The more you talk the dumber you reveal yourself. Best to quietly walk away and lick your wounds. Maybe change your handle or stay away long enough that everyone will forget what a total dumbass you are.
By whom you? Change my handle? Walk away? Doubt that, You want to have at it fine by me. You can't even respect yourself much less providers if they will have you. Go get a crying towel and sit in a corner, Lenny6746.
TechSticles
09-14-20, 14:50
Oh so you worked in a place where you learned the TRICKS of the trade. Imagine that!! Just look at you now! Wow what a make over. Have you ever tried to help these girls? Feed them clothe them get them into rehab? I have. I'm not talking about money amounts I'm talking about helping girls that need it. Its hard to do. Almost all the girls I see I'm friends with. I take them to their rehab if needed. I had one girl that was burned by her dope boy with cigs all over her body' I had her live with me and treated her burns every day. She healed and left on her own and thanked me for helping her. Find the real story before throwing stones. I read SHE CAN TAKE A POUNDING. Good for Miss Mary 222. Lenny6746.Lenny wants a parade with gold star afterwards for being the very best captain save-a-ho ever!
They aren't your friends, Lenny.
And the winner is!! TechSicles! Yey All mouth no dick! Lenny6746.
WoodFordR69
09-16-20, 14:01
I think you both have done good to help people out. Well done Lenny on the things you have done. As far as Ryann, I've seen her multiple times. In our regular conversations we've talked about our volunteer work. She shared how the other week she took some blankets to some homeless ladies and also gave them some food and money. I suggested to her that giving money is not a good idea. But my point is that this girl does have a heart of gold. All this arguing reminds me of listening to my friends, fight over politics. .The funny thing is this all started as whining about how much she charges. Guess what folks, she can charge what she wants to sell her ass. I saw her once when she was with EE. It was good, but didn't hit it off like I hoped. At the time there were more options than today that were reasonably priced & seemingly drug free. It seems like almost all the providers fall into one of two categories today: fat crack hoes that I don't want to touch or reasonably fit & attractive ladies. There's not a lot in the latter category, especially in NKY. That's why she can get away with charging those higher rates for now. If supply gets better I bet the prices some down. At this point I'm seriously considering pulling the trigger despite the $400 for an hour with a young, fit, drug free lady who can actually carry a conversation.
WanderingAbout
09-17-20, 20:04
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/iurh5k/a_classic/
That's her, would be great if everyone practice what they preach though, some members do not want to share under the radar girls. That's neither here nor there but sharing is caring. Happy hunting.Better slow your roll there Batman. This isn't Gotham. The sharing of contact information of ladies who prefer to keep a low profile is vastly different than a provider who advertises. You don't get to demand contract information regardless of whether you are a newbie or a senior.
Ladies who prefer to stay UTR do so for different reasons and it is THEM that decide who gets to contact them. They could ask one or two guys they trust to act as gatekeepers to filter and control access, limiting it to guys that they trust. But at no time is it assumed that it's free to just any Batman, Superman, or Aquaman that demands it.
We may be a bunch of reprobates who pay for sex, but we also appreciate a woman who treats us well. They treat us well, we treat them well, and everyone is happy; we are protective of that balance.
You want access? Then you come correct.
Could all the providers stop posting on the forums! Molly Daniels did it back at the start of Covid, so I had to see her. Because it was hot af to see her stir up everyone on here. Now I'm addicted to Molly. Now Ryann made Lenny look stupid and now I want to see her despite her being more than I want to pay. I can't afford this sh*t. I have no shame in admitting it either.
MarblesKyle
09-22-20, 12:00
Better slow your roll there Batman. This isn't Gotham. The sharing of contact information of ladies who prefer to keep a low profile is vastly different than a provider who advertises. You don't get to demand contract information regardless of whether you are a newbie or a senior.
Ladies who prefer to stay UTR do so for different reasons and it is THEM that decide who gets to contact them. They could ask one or two guys they trust to act as gatekeepers to filter and control access, limiting it to guys that they trust. But at no time is it assumed that it's free to just any Batman, Superman, or Aquaman that demands it.
We may be a bunch of reprobates who pay for sex, but we also appreciate a woman who treats us well. They treat us well, we treat them well, and everyone is happy; we are protective of that balance.
You want access? Then you come correct.I'm not sure this hero is working in the best interests of the community.
Same dude PM'd me for OTC UTRs a month or so ago. Has been a member since late June. I didn't even say that I had numbers, it was just a post that said I enjoy the hunt for numbers in clubs and have landed some in the past. If only life were that easy for a monger, just send messages to people you don't know to do all the work for you.
Granted, he appears to have some reviews out there so he is contributing but do you really expect me to just throw phone numbers around to people I don't know? OTC girls don't post ads, if they are willing to see someone they didn't meet ITC then it is done by referrals. I don't know you, dude, and your resume ain't there yet. I'm not risking relationships that I invested in (literally) to have a random monger text them out of the blue and freak them out.
Maybe we'd be talking if he offered a trade of numbers, maybe. But, he didn't. He just outright asked for the numbers. No please, no thank you. What a dick.
Todd Cincy
09-22-20, 13:46
I've both made and read some posts recently about the ages of providers. There seems to be a preference here for older (over 35) providers. I don't get it.
My purpose in making this post isn't to argue, but to try to understand. Here's what I'm getting at: I've seen people rave about "Annie Girl":
https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl
Annie isn't a girl. She isn't even a "MILF". She's an elderly woman.
Age, I suppose, is relative. I'm in my early 50's, though, and I don't see the MILF thing. Over this past summer, I met two 19 year olds on Seeking who were very aggressive. Nor, therefore, has it been my experience that young girls are simply poor lays or hard to deal with. I've had plenty of younger women from Discreet Desires and Fantasys who performed very well. This isn't rocket science, after all.
Nor am I an exceptionally attractive man. The one thing I do have going for me is that I'm reasonably fit for a 52 year old man, but that's it. I am very average. No Brad Pitt. Nothing to write home about.
So, what is the disconnect here? One possibility is that we have a large number of much older hobbyists here who simply don't feel comfortable, for whatever reason, with women under 30. But at 52, I'm more than old enough to be a 30 year old's father. Also, at 52, I can't believe that many of you are decades older than me. My dad is 74, and I'm pretty sure he isn't posting here.
My thesis is this: If you're going to pay, get the most "conventionally attractive" woman you can. Age is a factor in that. There's a reason why Playboy doesn't focus on women over 40.
Anyway, I would be interested in hearing why some of you seem to actively avoid conventionally attractive women in favor of (I'm not exaggerating here) women who literally could be grandmothers. I'm all ears.
Vinnie Kramer
09-22-20, 14:02
First, there is no accounting for taste. So, you will likely never truly understand.
Heck, I got a bunch of crap for seeing that woman that looks like Granny from the Beverly Hillbillies. But I was bored at work, trolling on my phone, and she offered a reasonably priced BJ and it was on the way to meet my buddies for drinks and cigars.
It was a total goof but I also have told that story countless times and others fund it humorous. So, it was worth the cost in free beers I have since received but I won't repeat.
I don't understand golden shower fetish either but some people seem to like it.
I usually go for 20 somethings and see Leigh weekly. Some people won't see her because her dental situation isn't great. Go figure.
I've both made and read some posts recently about the ages of providers. There seems to be a preference here for older (over 35) providers. I don't get it.
My purpose in making this post isn't to argue, but to try to understand.
Anyway, I would be interested in hearing why some of you seem to actively avoid conventionally attractive women in favor of (I'm not exaggerating here) women who literally could be grandmothers. I'm all ears.
Sir LanceLicksalot
09-22-20, 14:18
Age isn't a big thing to me. I am 65 and a 50 year old if she is fun to be with. Technically I am old enough to be her father.
I see a 50+ GILF in Lexington when I go there. She has a body of a 30 something and a sex drive that won't stop. We often go out to eat before or after our date and she is "Age Appropriate" for me. That stops all the looks I get with younger women.
The youngest I've had over the years was 18 and 1 month. I saw her I'd before we did anything and she admitted to me after our third date that she always had a good time with me because I didn't treat her like just a "cum dumpster like a lot of the men younger and older". With her we always got stares when we were out in public.
Over
I've both made and read some posts recently about the ages of providers. There seems to be a preference here for older (over 35) providers. I don't get it.
My purpose in making this post isn't to argue, but to try to understand. Here's what I'm getting at: I've seen people rave about "Annie Girl":
https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl
Annie isn't a girl. She isn't even a "MILF". She's an elderly woman.
Age, I suppose, is relative. I'm in my early 50's, though, and I don't see the MILF thing. Over this past summer, I met two 19 year olds on Seeking who were very aggressive. Nor, therefore, has it been my experience that young girls are simply poor lays or hard to deal with. I've had plenty of younger women from Discreet Desires and Fantasys who performed very well. This isn't rocket science, after all.
Nor am I an exceptionally attractive man. The one thing I do have going for me is that I'm reasonably fit for a 52 year old man, but that's it. I am very average. No Brad Pitt. Nothing to write home about.
So, what is the disconnect here? One possibility is that we have a large number of much older hobbyists here who simply don't feel comfortable, for whatever reason, with women under 30. But at 52, I'm more than old enough to be a 30 year old's father. Also, at 52, I can't believe that many of you are decades older than me. My dad is 74, and I'm pretty sure he isn't posting here.
My thesis is this: If you're going to pay, get the most "conventionally attractive" woman you can. Age is a factor in that. There's a reason why Playboy doesn't focus on women over 40.
Anyway, I would be interested in hearing why some of you seem to actively avoid conventionally attractive women in favor of (I'm not exaggerating here) women who literally could be grandmothers. I'm all ears..
You all bring up a good point. That each person's taste in women differ. There are so many different reasons we like a woman. Size, color, age, and many other physical attributes are one reason. Location and time of availability is another. Most men like skinny women, like Leighbby. To me, she is too skinny. I like bigger women. Same thing can be said about age, as some have mentioned.
All that being said, feel free to give your reports. Don't be worried about mongers who won't like that type of woman. Cause there are others who do. We have two sections one for sugarbabies and another for streetwalkers. Some of us might not entertain either of those types. But there are those who do. So as many different types of providers, there are that many different types of mongers. So if you like fatties, skinnies, grannies, druggies, black, asian, or whatever, please post. I would think most of us probably just like variety. So even if a woman might not be our preference, we might just hook up for something different.
UOnlyLiveOnce
09-22-20, 15:48
I've both made and read some posts recently about the ages of providers. There seems to be a preference here for older (over 35) providers. I don't get it.
My purpose in making this post isn't to argue, but to try to understand. Here's what I'm getting at: I've seen people rave about "Annie Girl":
https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl
Annie isn't a girl. She isn't even a "MILF". She's an elderly woman.
Age, I suppose, is relative. I'm in my early 50's, though, and I don't see the MILF thing. Over this past summer, I met two 19 year olds on Seeking who were very aggressive. Nor, therefore, has it been my experience that young girls are simply poor lays or hard to deal with. I've had plenty of younger women from Discreet Desires and Fantasys who performed very well. This isn't rocket science, after all.
Nor am I an exceptionally attractive man. The one thing I do have going for me is that I'm reasonably fit for a 52 year old man, but that's it. I am very average. No Brad Pitt. Nothing to write home about.
So, what is the disconnect here? One possibility is that we have a large number of much older hobbyists here who simply don't feel comfortable, for whatever reason, with women under 30. But at 52, I'm more than old enough to be a 30 year old's father. Also, at 52, I can't believe that many of you are decades older than me. My dad is 74, and I'm pretty sure he isn't posting here.
My thesis is this: If you're going to pay, get the most "conventionally attractive" woman you can. Age is a factor in that. There's a reason why Playboy doesn't focus on women over 40.
Anyway, I would be interested in hearing why some of you seem to actively avoid conventionally attractive women in favor of (I'm not exaggerating here) women who literally could be grandmothers. I'm all ears.I have seen providers around age 40 or close to it, but that is not my inherent preference. Twenty-something chicks are my preference, although I've certainly had a good time with some in their early to mid 30's. Whenever I've seen those who were 40 or almost 40, it was more because of convenience and cost.
The guys in their 70's who post here motivate me, actually. I hope to be sticking my sausage in 20-somethings at that age, and I hope to not need pills to make my little soldier rise to the occasion.
I have seen providers around age 40 or close to it, but that is not my inherent preference. Twenty-something chicks are my preference, although I've certainly had a good time with some in their early to mid 30's. Whenever I've seen those who were 40 or almost 40, it was more because of convenience and cost.
The guys in their 70's who post here motivate me, actually. I hope to be sticking my sausage in 20-somethings at that age, and I hope to not need pills to make my little soldier rise to the occasion.Since you mentioned you wanted to emulate we older gents, I thought I would weigh in on your musings. LOL.
This is a mixed bag for me, the provider age issue. I am a few weeks from 72. I still really dig getting laid and, on my better days, fucking the shit out of a woman when I can muster the magic mojo.
I do get a thrill out of being with a hot young babe. I mean, who doesn't enjoy looking at a young naked body and knowing that, in a few minutes, you're going to be wrapped around that beautiful body and, in a few minutes more, pounding your dick into that amazing young pussy! It winds me up!
I remember one young Black provider. I thought she was the most exotically beautiful girl I had ever seen. My body literally ached every time I watched her undress as I lay in bed. I used to tell her she was painfully beautiful. Watching her undress was the best part of the date. She was a terrible fuck, at least for me.
So, when I think of younger ladies that I thought were hot and exciting, Ryder comes to mind. Alaya LeRoux comes to mind. Who else: Remmy, Natti, Noelle, Sassy, Karmyn and a few UTR Black girls, to name a few. I'm sure there were others but these are the ones that come to mind at the moment.
But, when I reflect, these are not the women that excited me the most. They did not elevate me to the height of passion that others have. That list includes: Jill, Rhonda, Amy, Josie (Madylyn) and the Lady J. All these ladies are / were older. Every one of them was more sensual and passionate than any of the younger ladies above. Passion and sensuality like Josie brought to my bed was nothing short of amazing.
If I had to pick a favorite, it would be a dead heat between Josie and Rhonda, both ladies in their forties when they were here.
TechSticles
09-22-20, 18:32
Age isn't a big thing to me. I am 65 and a 50 year old if she is fun to be with. Technically I am old enough to be her father.
I see a 50+ GILF in Lexington when I go there. She has a body of a 30 something and a sex drive that won't stop. We often go out to eat before or after our date and she is "Age Appropriate" for me. That stops all the looks I get with younger women.
The youngest I've had over the years was 18 and 1 month. I saw her I'd before we did anything and she admitted to me after our third date that she always had a good time with me because I didn't treat her like just a "cum dumpster like a lot of the men younger and older". With her we always got stares when we were out in public.
Over
.Your use of the word "date" indicates this is more than a simple transaction for fucking. While I'm certainly willing to feed them and all, they are paid to be my cumdumpster.
I'm not looking to win the most decent guy award at a dinner with a hot chick who's time and body I've paid to use.
Todd Cincy
09-22-20, 20:23
Thanks for the feedback, BTBear. It is interesting to read other guys' opinions on this.
As noted, I'm a few years younger than you, but still "up there" at age 52. You graduated from high school in the 1970s. I graduated in the 1980s. We're not that far apart.
What you're saying would make perfect sense if I were pursuing a conventional relationship. If I were on Match or eHarmony, I would probably seek out women between the ages of 42 and 54.
But pay-for-play means a different agenda (at least for me). On the contrary, I want someone who *isn't* age appropriate.
This doesn't mean "barely legal". 18 and 19 year olds are often a lot of trouble. For me, 20 to 28 is the target range, with 21 to 24 being the sweet spot.
My rule is: I don't pay for the company of female peers. I pay for the company of women who would write me off as "too old" for them in real life.
Age isn't a big thing to me. I am 65 and a 50 year old if she is fun to be with. Technically I am old enough to be her father.
I see a 50+ GILF in Lexington when I go there. She has a body of a 30 something and a sex drive that won't stop. We often go out to eat before or after our date and she is "Age Appropriate" for me. That stops all the looks I get with younger women.
The youngest I've had over the years was 18 and 1 month. I saw her I'd before we did anything and she admitted to me after our third date that she always had a good time with me because I didn't treat her like just a "cum dumpster like a lot of the men younger and older". With her we always got stares when we were out in public.
Over
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Hillbilly Bob
09-22-20, 21:31
Since you mentioned you wanted to emulate we older gents, I thought I would weigh in on your musings. LOL.
This is a mixed bag for me, the provider age issue. I am a few weeks from 72. I still really dig getting laid and, on my better days, fucking the shit out of a woman when I can muster the magic mojo.
I do get a thrill out of being with a hot young babe. I mean, who doesn't enjoy looking at a young naked body and knowing that, in a few minutes, you're going to be wrapped around that beautiful body and, in a few minutes more, pounding your dick into that amazing young pussy! It winds me up!
I remember one young Black provider. I thought she was the most exotically beautiful girl I had ever seen. My body literally ached every time I watched her undress as I lay in bed. I used to tell her she was painfully beautiful. Watching her undress was the best part of the date. She was a terrible fuck, at least for me.
So, when I think of younger ladies that I thought were hot and exciting, Ryder comes to mind. Alaya LeRoux comes to mind. Who else: Remmy, Natti, Noelle, Sassy, Karmyn and a few UTR Black girls, to name a few. I'm sure there were others but these are the ones that come to mind at the moment.
But, when I reflect, these are not the women that excited me the most. They did not elevate me to the height of passion that others have. That list includes: Jill, Rhonda, Amy, Josie (Madylyn) and the Lady J. All these ladies are / were older. Every one of them was more sensual and passionate than any of the younger ladies above. Passion and sensuality like Josie brought to my bed was nothing short of amazing.
If I had to pick a favorite, it would be a dead heat between Josie and Rhonda, both ladies in their forties when they were here.RG.
I will agree with you Lady J was one of a kind Madylyn was another. I am older then you an I also enjoy watching a young provider undress. Just watching Dinvin Rachel get necked is a turn on. There are time we will just set on the couch nude an talk for an hour but I always know when I am read I will get to ram my Dick in that tight young pussy. You never have to worry about her place she has the cleanest incall I have been to.
Hillbilly Bob
09-22-20, 21:39
I've both made and read some posts recently about the ages of providers. There seems to be a preference here for older (over 35) providers. I don't get it.
My purpose in making this post isn't to argue, but to try to understand. Here's what I'm getting at: I've seen people rave about "Annie Girl":
https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl
Annie isn't a girl. She isn't even a "MILF". She's an elderly woman.
Age, I suppose, is relative. I'm in my early 50's, though, and I don't see the MILF thing. Over this past summer, I met two 19 year olds on Seeking who were very aggressive. Nor, therefore, has it been my experience that young girls are simply poor lays or hard to deal with. I've had plenty of younger women from Discreet Desires and Fantasys who performed very well. This isn't rocket science, after all.
Nor am I an exceptionally attractive man. The one thing I do have going for me is that I'm reasonably fit for a 52 year old man, but that's it. I am very average. No Brad Pitt. Nothing to write home about.
So, what is the disconnect here? One possibility is that we have a large number of much older hobbyists here who simply don't feel comfortable, for whatever reason, with women under 30. But at 52, I'm more than old enough to be a 30 year old's father. Also, at 52, I can't believe that many of you are decades older than me. My dad is 74, and I'm pretty sure he isn't posting here.
My thesis is this: If you're going to pay, get the most "conventionally attractive" woman you can. Age is a factor in that. There's a reason why Playboy doesn't focus on women over 40.
Anyway, I would be interested in hearing why some of you seem to actively avoid conventionally attractive women in favor of (I'm not exaggerating here) women who literally could be grandmothers. I'm all earsI am in my 70's love young providers but also enjoy a few older ones. One of the best was Lady J. Don't think any provider could keep up with her. Many time after you see you she would say don't think about leaving I am not done. Glad she is doing well but she is missed.
Thanks for the feedback, BTBear. It is interesting to read other guys' opinions on this.
As noted, I'm a few years younger than you, but still "up there" at age 52. You graduated from high school in the 1970s. I graduated in the 1980s. We're not that far apart.
What you're saying would make perfect sense if I were pursuing a conventional relationship. If I were on Match or eHarmony, I would probably seek out women between the ages of 42 and 54.
But pay-for-play means a different agenda (at least for me). On the contrary, I want someone who *isn't* age appropriate.
This doesn't mean "barely legal". 18 and 19 year olds are often a lot of trouble. For me, 20 to 28 is the target range, with 21 to 24 being the sweet spot.
My rule is: I don't pay for the company of female peers. I pay for the company of women who would write me off as "too old" for them in real life.This discussion has been some interesting reading so I'll throw a couple thoughts into the fray.
I'll be hitting 70 before the end of the year and as I reflect back on my monger history, I have to say that I've probably enjoyed the older girls more. First, I "connect" with them better mentally than I do with the 20-somethings and, in my opinion, the older ones generally provide better service. They seem to be more willing to take their time and make the session more of an "experience" vs. A wham-bam-thank-you-Ma'am. I've been with lots of younger girls who hop out of bed and begin getting dressed the moment they know I've gotten off and that's just a huge turn-off for me. Maybe it's because they consider me an old fart or maybe it's because that's just the way they do it. Either way, though, it sucks. As others have said, there's nothing quite like an old guy like me hopping in bed with an attractive, firm, hot young body but, as I've said, the performance and attitude just aren't there more often than not. Of course their are exceptions. SincyCinnamon is, by far, my all-time ATF and she's in her mid-20's.
I think I can sum up my thoughts pretty simply but saying that I really like the THOUGHT of being with hot, young chicks but the REALITY of it is that I'm disappointed more often than with the older gals. Granted, you sacrifice the hard bodies with the older women but the attitude seems to be much better. And it's the "attitude", in my opinion, that makes or breaks the affair. Let's face it, we're all different--different strokes for different folks. Some guys like BBWs, I don't. Some guys like full Bush, I don't. Some guys don't care about kissing / GFE, I do. Some guys really get into Greek, I can take it or leave it. The list goes on and on.
BlueJacks60
09-23-20, 05:33
Since you mentioned you wanted to emulate we older gents, I thought I would weigh in on your musings. LOL.
This is a mixed bag for me, the provider age issue. I am a few weeks from 72. I still really dig getting laid and, on my better days, fucking the shit out of a woman when I can muster the magic mojo.
I do get a thrill out of being with a hot young babe. I mean, who doesn't enjoy looking at a young naked body and knowing that, in a few minutes, you're going to be wrapped around that beautiful body and, in a few minutes more, pounding your dick into that amazing young pussy! It winds me up!
I remember one young Black provider. I thought she was the most exotically beautiful girl I had ever seen. My body literally ached every time I watched her undress as I lay in bed. I used to tell her she was painfully beautiful. Watching her undress was the best part of the date. She was a terrible fuck, at least for me.
So, when I think of younger ladies that I thought were hot and exciting, Ryder comes to mind. Alaya LeRoux comes to mind. Who else: Remmy, Natti, Noelle, Sassy, Karmyn and a few UTR Black girls, to name a few. I'm sure there were others but these are the ones that come to mind at the moment.
But, when I reflect, these are not the women that excited me the most. They did not elevate me to the height of passion that others have. That list includes: Jill, Rhonda, Amy, Josie (Madylyn) and the Lady J. All these ladies are / were older. Every one of them was more sensual and passionate than any of the younger ladies above. Passion and sensuality like Josie brought to my bed was nothing short of amazing.
If I had to pick a favorite, it would be a dead heat between Josie and Rhonda, both ladies in their forties when they were here.I also have had more enjoyment from the 30+ providers. Madelyn (only saw her once when she returned as Josie) is definitely one of my ATF's. Sometimes hard to get in contact with, but when you did, sessions with her were amazing.
Here's my two cents. I can get laid for free by women of my peer group, and there will be total sex crazed maniacs, and there will be pure vanilla experiences. Getting your knob polished is not a problem as long as you have a modicum of social skills and don't have the looks of Quasimodo. When I do play-for-pay, I am paying for the fantasy experience; GILFs and older MILFs are not in my fantasy. Ideally, they're in the 24-29 age range, not necessarily a hard body, but on the leaner side. Of course, I can only speak to my personal tastes. If someone out there wants a gummy from a Vietnam veteran, then by all means, go get you some of that.
Todd Cincy
09-23-20, 12:17
Hear, hear, D-Nut.
As I've shared, I'm 52. Women in my peer group aren't in demand like they were in 1990,1995, or even 2005. Nor are they nearly as attractive as they once were. I'm still friendly with my high school classmates. There are girls from my graduating class who I would have walked barefoot through broken glass to bed in 1990, who I wouldn't be interested in at all today. But 1990 was 30 years ago.
Let's get back to Annie Girl:
https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl
If that was an experience that I wanted, I think that I would be able to get that for free. I think most of you could, too.
On the other hand, I could probably not get Bianca Carlisle for free:
https://biancacarlisle.com/gallery/
I'm 25 years older than her, almost twice her age.
And I definitely couldn't get Rosie Averett for free:
https://tryst.link/escort/rosieaverett
From my perspective, then, paying for GILFs and older MILFs is a bit like walking into a steakhouse and ordering a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for $15. Not that there's anything wrong with PB&J. It's just that you can make it yourself at a fraction of the cost.
Sometimes I wonder why guys seeking older providers aren't simply on dating sites. The last time I was on one, there were gazillions of older women. In the dating market, older, overweight women (back to Annie Girl) really are a dime a dozen.
Here's my two cents. I can get laid for free by women of my peer group, and there will be total sex crazed maniacs, and there will be pure vanilla experiences. Getting your knob polished is not a problem as long as you have a modicum of social skills and don't have the looks of Quasimodo. When I do play-for-pay, I am paying for the fantasy experience; GILFs and older MILFs are not in my fantasy. Ideally, they're in the 24-29 age range, not necessarily a hard body, but on the leaner side. Of course, I can only speak to my personal tastes. If someone out there wants a gummy from a Vietnam veteran, then by all means, go get you some of that.
Here's my two cents. I can get laid for free by women of my peer group, and there will be total sex crazed maniacs, and there will be pure vanilla experiences. Getting your knob polished is not a problem as long as you have a modicum of social skills and don't have the looks of Quasimodo. When I do play-for-pay, I am paying for the fantasy experience; GILFs and older MILFs are not in my fantasy. Ideally, they're in the 24-29 age range, not necessarily a hard body, but on the leaner side. Of course, I can only speak to my personal tastes. If someone out there wants a gummy from a Vietnam veteran, then by all means, go get you some of that.I am 67 and have a 35 yr old daughter and for some reason I don't want to see someone younger than her. I prefer providers in their 40's or 50's-closer to my age. However I did see someone last week who was 36 and had a great time with this younger woman. I will probably mix them up in the future but still prefer the older, mature MILFs.
Hillbilly Bob
09-23-20, 12:54
Hear, hear, D-Nut.
As I've shared, I'm 52. Women in my peer group aren't in demand like they were in 1990,1995, or even 2005. Nor are they nearly as attractive as they once were. I'm still friendly with my high school classmates. There are girls from my graduating class who I would have walked barefoot through broken glass to bed in 1990, who I wouldn't be interested in at all today. But 1990 was 30 years ago.
Let's get back to Annie Girl:
https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl
If that was an experience that I wanted, I think that I would be able to get that for free. I think most of you could, too.
On the other hand, I could probably not get Bianca Carlisle for free:
https://biancacarlisle.com/gallery/
I'm 25 years older than her, almost twice her age.
And I definitely couldn't get Rosie Averett for free:.Not sure about you may be able to get her free her pictures are from 2015, 2016 2017 doesn't show what she looks like today.
TechSticles
09-23-20, 18:59
Not sure about you may be able to get her free her pictures are from 2015, 2016 2017 doesn't show what she looks like today.Usually there's a deterioration over time on provider pics. Are you saying Annie looks hotter today than 3-5 years ago? Haven't seen a review that bears that out. Quite the opposite, actually.
Steveyy1776
09-23-20, 20:57
Brings back memories of shellynineteen. She had a perfect body. Maybe not model face, but close! She wasn't the best in performance, but looks more than made up for it.
Hear, hear, D-Nut.
As I've shared, I'm 52. Women in my peer group aren't in demand like they were in 1990,1995, or even 2005. Nor are they nearly as attractive as they once were. I'm still friendly with my high school classmates. There are girls from my graduating class who I would have walked barefoot through broken glass to bed in 1990, who I wouldn't be interested in at all today. But 1990 was 30 years ago.
Let's get back to Annie Girl:
https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl
If that was an experience that I wanted, I think that I would be able to get that for free. I think most of you could, too.
On the other hand, I could probably not get Bianca Carlisle for free:
https://biancacarlisle.com/gallery/
I'm 25 years older than her, almost twice her age.
And I definitely couldn't get Rosie Averett for free:
https://tryst.link/escort/rosieaverett
From my perspective, then, paying for GILFs and older MILFs is a bit like walking into a steakhouse and ordering a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for $15. Not that there's anything wrong with PB&J. It's just that you can make it yourself at a fraction of the cost.
Sometimes I wonder why guys seeking older providers aren't simply on dating sites. The last time I was on one, there were gazillions of older women. In the dating market, older, overweight women (back to Annie Girl) really are a dime a dozen.
Hillbilly Bob
09-23-20, 21:44
Usually there's a deterioration over time on provider pics. Are you saying Annie looks hotter today than 3-5 years ago? Haven't seen a review that bears that out. Quite the opposite, actuallyDidn't say anything about Annie Girl.
Hillbilly Bob
09-23-20, 23:35
Usually there's a deterioration over time on provider pics. Are you saying Annie looks hotter today than 3-5 years ago? Haven't seen a review that bears that out. Quite the opposite, actuallyBianca Carlisle is who I was talking about her pictures are a few years old.
Todd Cincy
09-24-20, 06:47
Usually there's a deterioration over time on provider pics. Are you saying Annie looks hotter today than 3-5 years ago? Haven't seen a review that bears that out. Quite the opposite, actually.I believe he was talking about Bianca Carlisle:
https://biancacarlisle.com/
Bianca looks good, but the pics on her website are overdue for an update.
Annie, on the other hand, hasn't looked "hot" since the age of disco. She's got to be in her sixties.
https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl
I miss one day of reading and I spend an hour trying to catch up. Damn you guys have a slow day or what. I've seen Annie a few times. She has good skills and isn't bad to look at for her age. I'm in my mid 40's and she was conveniently close to my area the few times I visited her. I'd see her here and there but we have had a misunderstanding. So I just stay away now. I like the older ladies they give better service and quality time for my hard earned money. Lady J, Jaxx 2 of the best. The younger ones are qv and hhr romps for me most of the time exception being sincy cinn. I could score ladies my age possible a few younger ones too. But being married and not wanting to lose half of my life savings because a crazy one gets the idea that I want more out of a relationship than a wet hole or 2 to stick my dick in every once in a while keeps me away. Stay safe and keep reporting.
Dillsborodave
09-26-20, 01:55
I have been with the really hot young chicks to where it just about to makes you cum just by the sheer beauty. I have been with 30-40 who are still good looking but really know how to cock worship and get into the fucking session. I kind of agree with Kenal to where I gravitate to the mature better service women these days. We all have our own sex theorem that we use to pick where we spend our money. Do you want a young 10 who's service is a 6 rating or do you want a 6 who's service is a 10 rating. Also add to the equation that not all performances are equal.
Todd Cincy
09-27-20, 11:50
I have been with the really hot young chicks to where it just about to makes you cum just by the sheer beauty. I have been with 30-40 who are still good looking but really know how to cock worship and get into the fucking session. I kind of agree with Kenal to where I gravitate to the mature better service women these days. We all have our own sex theorem that we use to pick where we spend our money. Do you want a young 10 who's service is a 6 rating or do you want a 6 who's service is a 10 rating. Also add to the equation that not all performances are equal.Thanks to Kenal, Dave, and others who've responded to my initial question. I've long been confused as to why so many guys on this site seem to actively prefer older and less conventionally unattractive women. This thread has been enlightening.
As I mentioned earlier, this past summer I met two 19 year old SBs who were very aggressive and very willing. I always hear the "age vs performance" thing, but this hasn't been my experience at all. And there's certainly nothing special about me that is making these younger and more attractive girls so eager to please.
I think the bottom line is that some men just don't feel comfortable with very young, very attractive women. All our biological programming is to go for young, fertile women. If you're showing a marked preference for older MILFs and GILFs, then there is something else driving that.
There is, I've noticed, a "TGTBT" mindset in the hobbyist community. Or, if you will, a scarcity mindset. The idea here seems to be: It is only okay for us to do this if we're doing it with women who are older and unattractive.
Last summer, I did a M&G with a young hottie at Starbucks. I'm 52, she was 18. While we were sitting there, I was getting stares like daggers from a group of middle age women at an adjacent table. They didn't know exactly what I was up to, but they knew I was up to *something*. If the woman had been 42 and not very attractive, then the busybodies would have ignored us.
If I'm on a conventional dating site, then I'll go for someone who is roughly my age, and roughly the same level of attractiveness. If I'm paying, though, I'm always going to go for the very best: in looks, youth, *and* performance. No MILFs, GILFs, or fatties for me when I'm paying in cash.
UOnlyLiveOnce
09-27-20, 13:51
For those who've been mongering for a while. Do you ever get bored with the hobby? I appear to be in such a phase now. Last time I got some was with Ariel about 3 months ago. For most of the time since then, I've wanted it yet not wanted it at the same time, if you know what I'm trying to say.
I think part of it is I'm getting tired of women in general. Not so much sexually, but more because their bullshit seems to get worse with each passing year (we can thank social media for that). COVID and the lack of quality providers here has probably put a damper on it too. But it's starting to feel kind of boring even apart from these things. Maybe after almost 10 years of pretty continuous hobby action, I'm starting to get de-sensitized to it. 20-something chicks with shaved mounds and tattoos were a novelty and a huge turn-on once upon a time. Now, the novelty has worn off. I used to know how many women I've slept with, now, I would have to go through all my posts here from the last 8 or 9 years to give even a rough estimate.
Maybe it's age too. I'm in my 50's. I've never needed those special pills, but losing some interest kind of bothers me anyway.
Can't really bring up this subject with anyone in everyday life, so am interested to hear your thoughts.
Sir LanceLicksalot
09-27-20, 18:10
You might have low testosterone. Expensive to treat but it helps.
For those who've been mongering for a while. Do you ever get bored with the hobby? I appear to be in such a phase now. Last time I got some was with Ariel about 3 months ago. For most of the time since then, I've wanted it yet not wanted it at the same time, if you know what I'm trying to say.
I think part of it is I'm getting tired of women in general. Not so much sexually, but more because their bullshit seems to get worse with each passing year (we can thank social media for that). COVID and the lack of quality providers here has probably put a damper on it too. But it's starting to feel kind of boring even apart from these things. Maybe after almost 10 years of pretty continuous hobby action, I'm starting to get de-sensitized to it. 20-something chicks with shaved mounds and tattoos were a novelty and a huge turn-on once upon a time. Now, the novelty has worn off. I used to know how many women I've slept with, now, I would have to go through all my posts here from the last 8 or 9 years to give even a rough estimate.
Maybe it's age too. I'm in my 50's. I've never needed those special pills, but losing some interest kind of bothers me anyway.
Can't really bring up this subject with anyone in everyday life, so am interested to hear your thoughts.
Thanks to Kenal, Dave, and others who've responded to my initial question. I've long been confused as to why so many guys on this site seem to actively prefer older and less conventionally unattractive women. This thread has been enlightening.
As I mentioned earlier, this past summer I met two 19 year old SBs who were very aggressive and very willing. I always hear the "age vs performance" thing, but this hasn't been my experience at all. And there's certainly nothing special about me that is making these younger and more attractive girls so eager to please.
I think the bottom line is that some men just don't feel comfortable with very young, very attractive women. All our biological programming is to go for young, fertile women. If you're showing a marked preference for older MILFs and GILFs, then there is something else driving that.
There is, I've noticed, a "TGTBT" mindset in the hobbyist community. Or, if you will, a scarcity mindset. The idea here seems to be: It is only okay for us to do this if we're doing it with women who are older and unattractive.
Last summer, I did a M&G with a young hottie at Starbucks. I'm 52, she was 18. While we were sitting there, I was getting stares like daggers from a group of middle age women at an adjacent table. They didn't know exactly what I was up to, but they knew I was up to *something*. If the woman had been 42 and not very attractive, then the busybodies would have ignored us.
If I'm on a conventional dating site, then I'll go for someone who is roughly my age, and roughly the same level of attractiveness. If I'm paying, though, I'm always going to go for the very best: in looks, youth, *and* performance. No MILFs, GILFs, or fatties for me when I'm paying in cash.To add to my earlier comments on this subject, I wasn't saying that the young, "hard" girls don't turn me on. They definitely do. What I was trying to say, and maybe I didn't phrase things as I should have, is that I find older women more in-tune with me, particularly when it comes to GFE skills. I don't monger strictly for the sex. I also like some intimacy and the ability to just talk about fantasies, past experiences and things like that. Most of the younger girls just don't seem to give a crap about that stuff so, with them, I only get half the experience I'm looking for. Again, there are always exceptions but that's generally what I find. I hope that makes some sense.
For those who've been mongering for a while. Do you ever get bored with the hobby? I appear to be in such a phase now. Last time I got some was with Ariel about 3 months ago. For most of the time since then, I've wanted it yet not wanted it at the same time, if you know what I'm trying to say.
I think part of it is I'm getting tired of women in general. Not so much sexually, but more because their bullshit seems to get worse with each passing year (we can thank social media for that). COVID and the lack of quality providers here has probably put a damper on it too. But it's starting to feel kind of boring even apart from these things. Maybe after almost 10 years of pretty continuous hobby action, I'm starting to get de-sensitized to it. 20-something chicks with shaved mounds and tattoos were a novelty and a huge turn-on once upon a time. Now, the novelty has worn off. I used to know how many women I've slept with, now, I would have to go through all my posts here from the last 8 or 9 years to give even a rough estimate.
Maybe it's age too. I'm in my 50's. I've never needed those special pills, but losing some interest kind of bothers me anyway.
Can't really bring up this subject with anyone in everyday life, so am interested to hear your thoughts.When I got in my mid 50's I hit a wall. I had worked very hard all my life and all of a sudden I didn't want to anymore. Chasing pussy is no different. Mongering is a job, we all go through the same crap. We all hit a wall. My mind set is to be constantly amazed that some young chick will be willing to massage my old penis with her mouth until I spew baby batter into it for a reasonable price. In the words of Spock, "I find this fascinating. " You're hitting a bump in the road, all is well!
For those who've been mongering for a while. Do you ever get bored with the hobby? I appear to be in such a phase now. I don't live in the hobby. I merely vacation there. As I have stated before, my involvement in the hobby is to indulge a fantasy. I do so for an hour or two, then go back to the reality I live. There I have other passions and interests that challenge, amuse, bemuse, and yes, frustrate me. But it is precisely in the mundane that I find my mind stirring at the thought of my next monger encounter.
Ever read, "The paradox of hedonism"? There, it discusses the question of, "if a pleasure remains, does it remain a pleasure? Perhaps finding something else that demands your time and attention would give you a new appreciation for the little hobby vacations you take.
A huge factor being overlooked here is price. I have money, I'm not ugly (not Clooney or anything but you know), I can get and have had more than my fair share of hot chicks. I'm getting them now on AM (28-40 range though). But I cannot justify paying $350-$500 to get laid. I just can't -Maybe In a few years I will. And that's the cost for most of the young hotties. I'm inclined to believe there's less psychology behind it; it's more about economics. I have to believe many mongers just can't justify the cost though. Period.
Time is another factor. The sugarbaby game seems to be an enormous investment of time. I'm too busy and can't be taking young girls out in public to dinner and shit.
A huge factor being overlooked here is price. I have money, I'm not ugly (not Clooney or anything but you know), I can get and have had more than my fair share of hot chicks. I'm getting them now on AM (28-40 range though). But I cannot justify paying $350-$500 to get laid. I just can't -Maybe In a few years I will. And that's the cost for most of the young hotties. I'm inclined to believe there's less psychology behind it; it's more about economics. I have to believe many mongers just can't justify the cost though. Period.
Time is another factor. The sugarbaby game seems to be an enormous investment of time. I'm too busy and can't be taking young girls out in public to dinner and shit.What are the 3 most important things when considering value in real estate? "LOCATION! LOCATION! LOCATION! The current prices are definitely driven by economics, but not in the way of need. It has more to do of WHERE they are advertising. When the USA Classifieds were up, the prices set there were more reasonable because those providers who posted there also had access to the board. They could read what was being said, and the prices set by the popular ladies became the de facto "standard rate" with plusses and minuses given for youth, hotness, personality and quality of service. There was feedback that could be read and it functioned as Yelp did. New incoming girls could see what the standard rate was, and adjust their own pricing accordingly. Those that were overcharging could / would read comments about their rates and they were more inclined to make adjustments.
Nowadays, USA Classifieds is gone, and the new girls entering the biz are only seeing the rates set by their competition on Tryst and Eros, and Slixa, and they think that if Provider1 is charging $$ then they should also be charging $$ Then someone hotter comes along and decides to add a couple of $$ to that because, after all, if some ugly skank can charge $$ then surely they would be worth $$ a session. Newer girls comes along, sees the the 6 benjamins and before you know it, you got a 150/ hr girls asking 4 X what the market will actually bear.
Case in point, this newer Tryst poster: https://tryst.link/escort/sexxijessii She is asking for 5 benjamins per hour. Never met her, and I certainly don't remember any reviews, so based solely on what I can see in the ad, there is no way anyone would part with a Mercedes car payment for an hour with her.
Location, location, location.
P.S.-- Looking at the ads, I think Maci Monroe is priced appropriately. She is reviewed, mostly positive with the negatives being her lack of respect for time and punctuality, and she does have a pleasing look. So, I am using her as my baseline of gauging rate vs. Return.
MarblesKyle
09-28-20, 10:58
A huge factor being overlooked here is price. I have money, I'm not ugly (not Clooney or anything but you know), I can get and have had more than my fair share of hot chicks. I'm getting them now on AM (28-40 range though). But I cannot justify paying $350-$500 to get laid. I just can't -Maybe In a few years I will. And that's the cost for most of the young hotties. I'm inclined to believe there's less psychology behind it; it's more about economics. I have to believe many mongers just can't justify the cost though. Period.
Time is another factor. The sugarbaby game seems to be an enormous investment of time. I'm too busy and can't be taking young girls out in public to dinner and shit.I can afford five hundred, but it's an insanely stupid way to spend your money. Three is about as high as I go unless I just have to try something. Nothing is ever as good as advertised in this industry, ever.
Another thing that is being missed is generational differences and how bad a 21 year old hottie acts now compared to 20 years ago. Kids are being raised differently and have been for decades. There is a clear difference in youths today than people of the same age even ten years ago. There is a lot more entitlement, and way less accountability. When you combine this with a pandemic and a rampant opiod problem, you get above average chicks charging five bills for a nut just because they aren't junkies or aren't 40 plus.
I'm only in my late thirties, but I prefer the cougars or someone my age because I identify with them better and the overall experience (for me) is better. As I've said many times, if the attitude and hygiene are good, I'm able to overlook some saggy tits or thicker thighs.
Different strokes, of course, but for me if I know you have a bad attitude and you aren't even trying to hide it, I can't get into it. Older providers at least act like they are enjoying the visit. The only provider under 30 that I've actually had a great time with was Natalee, and she definitely doesn't fall into the "hard body" class. She has some extra lbs and probably was in her late 20's. Any other experiences I've had with "hotter" younger providers has just felt very mechanical and cold.
I can afford five hundred, but it's an insanely stupid way to spend your money. Three is about as high as I go unless I just have to try something. Nothing is ever as good as advertised in this industry, ever.
Another thing that is being missed is generational differences and how bad a 21 year old hottie acts now compared to 20 years ago. Kids are being raised differently and have been for decades. There is a clear difference in youths today than people of the same age even ten years ago. There is a lot more entitlement, and way less accountability. When you combine this with a pandemic and a rampant opiod problem, you get above average chicks charging five bills for a nut just because they aren't junkies or aren't 40 plus.
I'm only in my late thirties, but I prefer the cougars or someone my age because I identify with them better and the overall experience (for me) is better. As I've said many times, if the attitude and hygiene are good, I'm able to overlook some saggy tits or thicker thighs.
Different strokes, of course, but for me if I know you have a bad attitude and you aren't even trying to hide it, I can't get into it. Older providers at least act like they are enjoying the visit. The only provider under 30 that I've actually had a great time with was Natalee, and she definitely doesn't fall into the "hard body" class. She has some extra lbs and probably was in her late 20's. Any other experiences I've had with "hotter" younger providers has just felt very mechanical and cold.This does appear to be the reality. Based on many reviews I've read on here GPS is prevalent in the young hotties. And that's no fun. But if there are multiple reviews of a young escort who is GFE surely she's getting plenty of business. I just haven't seen many.
To support the economics argument consider this though: any guy on here would fuck Gabbie Carter (or whichever young hot porn star you'd like) If she charged $125 hr, FS, GFE. I'm certain of that. But the risk of not getting that experience for $350-$500 is very high in a city where the young hotties are known for having gps.
EloquentEven
09-28-20, 14:16
What are the 3 most important things when considering value in real estate? "LOCATION! LOCATION! LOCATION! The current prices are definitely driven by economics, but not in the way of need. It has more to do of WHERE they are advertising. When the USA Classifieds were up, the prices set there were more reasonable because those providers who posted there also had access to the board. They could read what was being said, and the prices set by the popular ladies became the de facto "standard rate" with plusses and minuses given for youth, hotness, personality and quality of service. There was feedback that could be read and it functioned as Yelp did. New incoming girls could see what the standard rate was, and adjust their own pricing accordingly. Those that were overcharging could / would read comments about their rates and they were more inclined to make adjustments.
Nowadays, USA Classifieds is gone, and the new girls entering the biz are only seeing the rates set by their competition on Tryst and Eros, and Slixa, and they think that if Provider1 is charging $$ then they should also be charging $$ Then someone hotter comes along and decides to add a couple of $$ to that because, after all, if some ugly skank can charge $$ then surely they would be worth $$ a session. Newer girls comes along, sees the the 6 benjamins and before you know it, you got a 150/ hr girls asking 4 X what the market will actually bear.
Case in point, this newer Tryst poster: https://tryst.link/escort/sexxijessii She is asking for 5 benjamins per hour. Never met her, and I certainly don't remember any reviews, so based solely on what I can see in the ad, there is no way anyone would part with a Mercedes car payment for an hour with her.
Location, location, location.
P.S.-- Looking at the ads, I think Maci Monroe is priced appropriately. She is reviewed, mostly positive with the negatives being her lack of respect for time and punctuality, and she does have a pleasing look. So, I am using her as my baseline of gauging rate vs. Return.I have always tried to set rates that are reasonable for everyone involved. I never had anyone over 250 or 300 hr at the most and a very few of them were at those rates like Maria Monroe, Galina, Ryann etc. Anyone that uses EE regularly knows I give them lower rates than what is listed of the website. I do see rates the Ladies charge on Eros, Tryst and other sites and wonder how many clientele they get in this market at that price point? The SexxiJessii that DNut referred to is the same Jess on LC doing QV for. 6 at a very low end hotel. But again, I Believe most of the clientele that they get serious interest from are first timers or do not know about USASG and are not educated in the hobby. Most of those providers do not screen for safety either. Stay safe and spend your money wisely!! EE.
NineIncher
09-28-20, 14:42
"Nothing is ever as good as advertised in this industry, ever. " That's just about the most accurate statement I've ever read on these boards.
I can afford five hundred, but it's an insanely stupid way to spend your money. Three is about as high as I go unless I just have to try something. Nothing is ever as good as advertised in this industry, ever.
Another thing that is being missed is generational differences and how bad a 21 year old hottie acts now compared to 20 years ago. Kids are being raised differently and have been for decades. There is a clear difference in youths today than people of the same age even ten years ago. There is a lot more entitlement, and way less accountability. When you combine this with a pandemic and a rampant opiod problem, you get above average chicks charging five bills for a nut just because they aren't junkies or aren't 40 plus.
I'm only in my late thirties, but I prefer the cougars or someone my age because I identify with them better and the overall experience (for me) is better. As I've said many times, if the attitude and hygiene are good, I'm able to overlook some saggy tits or thicker thighs.
Different strokes, of course, but for me if I know you have a bad attitude and you aren't even trying to hide it, I can't get into it. Older providers at least act like they are enjoying the visit. The only provider under 30 that I've actually had a great time with was Natalee, and she definitely doesn't fall into the "hard body" class. She has some extra lbs and probably was in her late 20's. Any other experiences I've had with "hotter" younger providers has just felt very mechanical and cold.
What are the 3 most important things when considering value in real estate? "LOCATION! LOCATION! LOCATION! The current prices are definitely driven by economics, but not in the way of need. It has more to do of WHERE they are advertising. When the USA Classifieds were up, the prices set there were more reasonable because those providers who posted there also had access to the board. They could read what was being said, and the prices set by the popular ladies became the de facto "standard rate" with plusses and minuses given for youth, hotness, personality and quality of service. There was feedback that could be read and it functioned as Yelp did. New incoming girls could see what the standard rate was, and adjust their own pricing accordingly. Those that were overcharging could / would read comments about their rates and they were more inclined to make adjustments.
Nowadays, USA Classifieds is gone, and the new girls entering the biz are only seeing the rates set by their competition on Tryst and Eros, and Slixa, and they think that if Provider1 is charging $$ then they should also be charging $$ Then someone hotter comes along and decides to add a couple of $$ to that because, after all, if some ugly skank can charge $$ then surely they would be worth $$ a session. Newer girls comes along, sees the the 6 benjamins and before you know it, you got a 150/ hr girls asking 4 X what the market will actually bear.
Case in point, this newer Tryst poster: https://tryst.link/escort/sexxijessii She is asking for 5 benjamins per hour. Never met her, and I certainly don't remember any reviews, so based solely on what I can see in the ad, there is no way anyone would part with a Mercedes car payment for an hour with her.
Location, location, location.
P.S.-- Looking at the ads, I think Maci Monroe is priced appropriately. She is reviewed, mostly positive with the negatives being her lack of respect for time and punctuality, and she does have a pleasing look. So, I am using her as my baseline of gauging rate vs. Return.Lots of good points, D Nut. Interestingly, the girl you referred to on Tryst also advertises on Listcrawler. I saw her last week for $100 for a half hour. She's OK but certainly nothing special and NO WAY is she worth $500.
I don't live in the hobby. I merely vacation there. As I have stated before, my involvement in the hobby is to indulge a fantasy. I do so for an hour or two, then go back to the reality I live. There I have other passions and interests that challenge, amuse, bemuse, and yes, frustrate me. But it is precisely in the mundane that I find my mind stirring at the thought of my next monger encounter.
Ever read, "The paradox of hedonism"? There, it discusses the question of, "if a pleasure remains, does it remain a pleasure? Perhaps finding something else that demands your time and attention would give you a new appreciation for the little hobby vacations you take.I wouldn't say I'm bored, but looking at ad (listcrawler Cincinnati) nothing is jumping out at me. I've found about 4 in Dayton I'm going to look into. One I know has been around a while and should be safe is Macii Monroe. There just doesn't seem to be much jumping out at me in Cincy at the moment.
Todd Cincy
09-29-20, 07:40
Also in my 50's here. Age may be a factor, but here's another one: The options before us at present are simply not very good.
As others have noted, there are some young, chubby $100 girls asking for $500 or more:
https://tryst.link/escort/naughtynicole-333
And I know some of you with geriatric preferences like "MILFs". Fine and good. But there is a difference between a hot older woman (I acknowledge that they exist), and a beat-to-heck, overweight old woman:
https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl
Or you can spend $450 on a woman whose cellulite-covered posterior could justify its own zip code:
https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz
Honestly, I don't know if these options would have appealed to me when I was a horny 16-year-old, and certainly not at these prices.
The good news: The market is historically cyclical. This, too, shall pass. If you're feeling unmotivated by the high-priced, low-quality options at present, hold on to your $ for now. COVID turned lots of markets upside down this year. Why should the hobby market be any different?
For those who've been mongering for a while. Do you ever get bored with the hobby? I appear to be in such a phase now. Last time I got some was with Ariel about 3 months ago. For most of the time since then, I've wanted it yet not wanted it at the same time, if you know what I'm trying to say.
I think part of it is I'm getting tired of women in general. Not so much sexually, but more because their bullshit seems to get worse with each passing year (we can thank social media for that). COVID and the lack of quality providers here has probably put a damper on it too. But it's starting to feel kind of boring even apart from these things. Maybe after almost 10 years of pretty continuous hobby action, I'm starting to get de-sensitized to it. 20-something chicks with shaved mounds and tattoos were a novelty and a huge turn-on once upon a time. Now, the novelty has worn off. I used to know how many women I've slept with, now, I would have to go through all my posts here from the last 8 or 9 years to give even a rough estimate.
Maybe it's age too. I'm in my 50's. I've never needed those special pills, but losing some interest kind of bothers me anyway.
Can't really bring up this subject with anyone in everyday life, so am interested to hear your thoughts.
Also in my 50's here. Age may be a factor, but here's another one: The options before us at present are simply not very good.
As others have noted, there are some young, chubby $100 girls asking for $500 or more:
https://tryst.link/escort/naughtynicole-333
And I know some of you with geriatric preferences like "MILFs". Fine and good. But there is a difference between a hot older woman (I acknowledge that they exist), and a beat-to-heck, overweight old woman:
https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl
Or you can spend $450 on a woman whose cellulite-covered posterior could justify its own zip code:
https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz
Honestly, I don't know if these options would have appealed to me when I was a horny 16-year-old, and certainly not at these prices.
The good news: The market is historically cyclical. This, too, shall pass. If you're feeling unmotivated by the high-priced, low-quality options at present, hold on to your $ for now. COVID turned lots of markets upside down this year. Why should the hobby market be any different?Good post. I too am pretty much bored with the hobby, mostly because what is available. I don't prefer the geriatric overweight, underweight, sloppy, bad teeth, cellulite ridden providers that are available. Like I have said before I know we all have our preferences but its actually starting to irritate a little when some the post how "hot" and "great" they are. In fact it seems of all ages that's what is available today in this area. I see members with a lot of posts singing the praises of these provider and I just help but wondering what the hell they are thinking. Its one thing to see them post positively about their performance, but to say they are attractive and look good? C'Mon. Now. Thank god I have two very attractive utr's. But once again I know we all have our, some very strange, very questionable, preferences. It makes us who we are. I've posted before there are some mongers here I give their recommendations, at least in the looks dept, zero credibility based on what they have said about other providers. I hope you are right about the talent changing based on the up and down cycle. You may be right but I'm not so sure.
Good post. I too am pretty much bored with the hobby, mostly because what is available. I don't prefer the geriatric overweight, underweight, sloppy, bad teeth, cellulite ridden providers that are available. Like I have said before I know we all have our preferences but its actually starting to irritate a little when some the post how "hot" and "great" they are. In fact it seems of all ages that's what is available today in this area. I see members with a lot of posts singing the praises of these provider and I just help but wondering what the hell they are thinking. Its one thing to see them post positively about their performance, but to say they are attractive and look good? C'Mon. Now. Thank god I have two very attractive utr's. But once again I know we all have our, some very strange, very questionable, preferences. It makes us who we are. I've posted before there are some mongers here I give their recommendations, at least in the looks dept, zero credibility based on what they have said about other providers. I hope you are right about the talent changing based on the up and down cycle. You may be right but I'm not so sure.Not sure if any of my recent reviews are ones you are talking about? But as far as looks. Saying someone is decent looking today, is comparing them with other providers of today. I agree, the overall quality of providers in all areas. Looks, performance, etc. Has gone downhill. So when saying some provider looks ok today, when comparing to providers a few years ago, isn't even close.
Only provider that has decent looks would by Katie / Kly30. She has a very nice body. Lolareal was only other one in recent times.
Not sure if any of my recent reviews are ones you are talking about? But as far as looks. Saying someone is decent looking today, is comparing them with other providers of today. I agree, the overall quality of providers in all areas. Looks, performance, etc. Has gone downhill. So when saying some provider looks ok today, when comparing to providers a few years ago, isn't even close.
Only provider that has decent looks would by Katie / Kly30. She has a very nice body. Lolareal was only other one in recent times.Mongering nowadays is like a game of bridge. If you can't find a good partner, you're better off with a good hand.
We all have our own tastes when seeking providers. What you think is great I may think she's bad. Ages to me do not matter as long as they are over 18 and under 50. I look for the average girls not the beauty Queens. I mainly judge a provider by performance. If I'm not sexually attracted to one I leave. I'm not into strippers LOL they are not worth a fuck in bed LOL. I've been with a few lesbians they are worse than strippers. In today world 98% are using drugs. Most of them have their BFs or husbands close by. Streetwalkers are now on new sites and liscrawler selling it for 150 to 200 a hour. They were getting 40 on the street. I had counted 4 of them on skip the games in one day last week. On list crawler the ads are full of them. A lot of you say I don't do streetwalkers. The hell you say their ads are up now and your fucking them at a higher rate that's all. I currently have 5 providers I see none with ads up and one that walks. That's the way it is today!! Lenny6746.
Mongering nowadays is like a game of bridge. If you can't find a good partner, you're better off with a good hand.Yes, it's getting bad. Have to stock up good lotion.
We all have our own tastes when seeking providers. What you think is great I may think she's bad. Ages to me do not matter as long as they are over 18 and under 50. I look for the average girls not the beauty Queens. I mainly judge a provider by performance. If I'm not sexually attracted to one I leave. I'm not into strippers LOL they are not worth a fuck in bed LOL. I've been with a few lesbians they are worse than strippers. In today world 98% are using drugs. Most of them have their BFs or husbands close by. Streetwalkers are now on new sites and liscrawler selling it for 150 to 200 a hour. They were getting 40 on the street. I had counted 4 of them on skip the games in one day last week. On list crawler the ads are full of them. A lot of you say I don't do streetwalkers. The hell you say their ads are up now and your fucking them at a higher rate that's all. I currently have 5 providers I see none with ads up and one that walks. That's the way it is today!! Lenny6746.The difference is location. You aren't driving and parking and doing the deed in your car. You are paying more for them have a room to do the deed there. So if you want to do the deed in your car for 40, by all means do so. Some would rather pay more to have a room. To me, having a room is less risky. Plus it's more comfortable to have a bed than in an automobile. Now maybe if you had some suped up van or RV, be different. LOL.
I don't do it in my car, I don't use motels or hotels. I do it in my home I don't pay hour rates These girls are providers LOL. I just do it unlike most do I also treat them with respect not like a piece of fuck meat, We do have sex but its totally different than what you encounter, Lenny6746.
Vinnie Kramer
09-30-20, 15:38
My wife woke up this morning and came into my office, and said, "Look at my forehead. I think a spider bit me!" After my hysterical laughter subsided to the point I could actually look at her forehead, it did indeed look like some bug had bit her during her slumber.
Many others have claimed to have such a wound, but I think this is the first actual insect bite I have ever seen.
I'm moderately certain she is not injecting heroin or other illicit drugs into her forehead.
I still giggle a little 9 or so hours later when I think about it.
I hope y'all find some amusement as well.
Cheers!
I don't do it in my car, I don't use motels or hotels. I do it in my home I don't pay hour rates These girls are providers LOL. I just do it unlike most do I also treat them with respect not like a piece of fuck meat, We do have sex but its totally different than what you encounter, Lenny6746.Not sure by what you mean "what you encounter. "? I treat the providers well. What I was trying to get at was more along the lines of what is being provided in calculating what you should pay. So what calculates into that is transportation, the location, advertising, to name a few. If you are picking them up off the street, providing transportation and providing a room. That makes sense that the rate would be much cheaper. Because you are paying much of the cost yourself. But if she has to pay for online advertising, answering calls texts, is already at the location, and paying for the room. Then she is paying more costs and has to charge more. Some of us can't host or use vehicles. So we have to rely on incall locations. I don't pay hour rates, because I don't need that much time.
So Lenny, what are the rates you are used to paying for streetwalkers? So you drive around SW known areas, pick them up, take them back to your place, do whatever, and then drop them back off?
If you have 5 that don't have ads up, mind sharing? Especially if they have incall location.
Todd Cincy
10-01-20, 10:02
We all have our own tastes when seeking providers. What you think is great I may think she's bad. Ages to me do not matter as long as they are over 18 and under 50. I look for the average girls not the beauty Queens. I mainly judge a provider by performance. If I'm not sexually attracted to one I leave. I'm not into strippers LOL they are not worth a fuck in bed LOL. I've been with a few lesbians they are worse than strippers. In today world 98% are using drugs. Most of them have their BFs or husbands close by. Streetwalkers are now on new sites and liscrawler selling it for 150 to 200 a hour. They were getting 40 on the street. I had counted 4 of them on skip the games in one day last week. On list crawler the ads are full of them. A lot of you say I don't do streetwalkers. The hell you say their ads are up now and your fucking them at a higher rate that's all. I currently have 5 providers I see none with ads up and one that walks. That's the way it is today!! Lenny6746.
I agree with what you say about the streetwalkers now dominating the online platforms. That's why the pickings are so slim nowadays.
As for age: 18 to 50 is quite a spread. That is barely legal to grandma territory. My standard is: under 35, with a focus on women under 30. I don't want to pay to boink grandmas.
As for average girls: I am fine with average girls. But what is an average girl?
To the me, an "average girl" is Ryann:
https://tryst.link/escort/ryannxoxo
She's not bad, but you wouldn't gawk at her if you saw her in public, either.
The problem is, most of the girls on the sites at present are not "average". They are old, fat, or simply unattractive:
https://tryst.link/escort/vixen-simone
https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz
https://tryst.link/escort/katness0049-kik
https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl
I agree with what you say about the streetwalkers now dominating the online platforms. That's why the pickings are so slim nowadays.
As for age: 18 to 50 is quite a spread. That is barely legal to grandma territory. My standard is: under 35, with a focus on women under 30. I don't want to pay to boink grandmas.
As for average girls: I am fine with average girls. But what is an average girl?
To the me, an "average girl" is Ryann:
https://tryst.link/escort/ryannxoxo
She's not bad, but you wouldn't gawk at her if you saw her in public, either.
The problem is, most of the girls on the sites at present are not "average". They are old, fat, or simply unattractive:
https://tryst.link/escort/vixen-simone
https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz
https://tryst.link/escort/katness0049-kik
https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girlI agree also, another one would be Katherine.
https://tryst.link/escort/prettttykkitty
If it is a spider bite it can get infected and grow and cause a major issue. I had one that I eventually had to get cut out and it was very painful. If it starts to get bigger tell her to put finger nail Polish on it and it will smother it and it won't get any larger.
My wife woke up this morning and came into my office, and said, "Look at my forehead. I think a spider bit me!" After my hysterical laughter subsided to the point I could actually look at her forehead, it did indeed look like some bug had bit her during her slumber.
Many others have claimed to have such a wound, but I think this is the first actual insect bite I have ever seen.
I'm moderately certain she is not injecting heroin or other illicit drugs into her forehead.
I still giggle a little 9 or so hours later when I think about it.
I hope y'all find some amusement as well.
Cheers!
Vinnie Kramer
10-01-20, 13:51
There definitely is some swelling but not egregious.
If it is a spider bite it can get infected and grow and cause a major issue. I had one that I eventually had to get cut out and it was very painful. If it starts to get bigger tell her to put finger nail Polish on it and it will smother it and it won't get any larger.
When initially contacting a provider. I use a dedicated monger number via textnow.com - I often get crickets. I start off with something like "I just saw your ad," or "what part of town are you in?" or "where is incall" - because one of my deciding factors is how far away they are. I almost always use incall and never outcall, and rarely in the car. So do any of you experts have any advice on the initial text to better my chances of a response? I texted a provider who had posted an ad only minutes earlier, and I NEVER heard from her. ? Help?
When initially contacting a provider. I use a dedicated monger number via textnow.com - I often get crickets. I start off with something like "I just saw your ad," or "what part of town are you in?" or "where is incall" - because one of my deciding factors is how far away they are. I almost always use incall and never outcall, and rarely in the car. So do any of you experts have any advice on the initial text to better my chances of a response? I texted a provider who had posted an ad only minutes earlier, and I NEVER heard from her. ? Help?I use the same app. Somedays are just dead. I usually start off with something like "are you available today?" Or "taking appointments today. ?' "I would like to setup something today with you. " Sometimes too, if you say you looking for hhr or hr helps over a qv.
When initially contacting a provider. I use a dedicated monger number via textnow.com - I often get crickets. I start off with something like "I just saw your ad," or "what part of town are you in?" or "where is incall" - because one of my deciding factors is how far away they are. I almost always use incall and never outcall, and rarely in the car. So do any of you experts have any advice on the initial text to better my chances of a response? I texted a provider who had posted an ad only minutes earlier, and I NEVER heard from her. ? Help?I started using HB shotgun approach and it usually works sometime too good and I have to choose. Second I always lead with are you available. Then area if I don't know like when they say cincinnati or north. I like to know my general area I'm going so I don't waste their time and mine. Then I suggest my time limit qv, hhr, hr and sometime a time from hour to hour sometimes I say this is a short time offer. Lastly. I can't give you any info for Sat or sun because they are no play days for me. Usually I get no response until after 10 am mostly 11 most days. Mondays and Fridays are by far the worst days to hookup. All you horny fuckers either make up for the weekend or spending your extra cash on payday I guess. Well my 2 cents hope it helps stay safe and report back.
Vinnie Kramer
10-06-20, 11:13
Nobody said anything negative about the girl.
Nobody's mug shot is ever their best photo. We could be a little kinder.
We need to start one immediately to get this girl from London to come here. I've used this service in the past when I used to travel to London but DAMN I'm in lust with her video. Her rates and services really make me feel everything is overpriced here!
https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-paddington-ivory
We need to start one immediately to get this girl from London to come here. I've used this service in the past when I used to travel to London but DAMN I'm in lust with her video. Her rates and services really make me feel everything is overpriced here!
https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-paddington-ivoryIf I convert my Hilton Honors points to Delta Skymiles, I will have enough to either fly her here, or me go there, round trip business class. The latter is better for me because have you seen her DUO partners (plural) ? Holy fudgecicle. That makes the 3000 mile commute worth it.
If I convert my Hilton Honors points to Delta Skymiles, I will have enough to either fly her here, or me go there, round trip business class. The latter is better for me because have you seen her DUO partners (plural) ? Holy fudgecicle. That makes the 3000 mile commute worth it.I'm totally in on this! Just regretting not working for the London based company anymore. I can only imagine how great the duos would be with her and just one of her partners. Add in a trip to Greece and I may retire now because it won't get much better!
Cincyfunguy
10-07-20, 13:45
We need to start one immediately to get this girl from London to come here. I've used this service in the past when I used to travel to London but DAMN I'm in lust with her video. Her rates and services really make me feel everything is overpriced here!
https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-paddington-ivoryWomen of this caliber are not unusual throughout much of Europe, and at similar rates to here. In fact, you would be amazed at the talent pool.
CFG.
I heard that Prague is absolutely ridiculous. Stunning women for next to nothing prices.
Women of this caliber are not unusual throughout much of Europe, and at similar rates to here. In fact, you would be amazed at the talent pool.
CFG.
Katmandu6999
10-07-20, 19:00
We need to start one immediately to get this girl from London to come here. I've used this service in the past when I used to travel to London but DAMN I'm in lust with her video. Her rates and services really make me feel everything is overpriced here!
https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-paddington-ivoryThey have a section where they out the shitty ladies! Now that's a damn good service!
Women of this caliber are not unusual throughout much of Europe, and at similar rates to here. In fact, you would be amazed at the talent pool.
CFG.I started my hobby in Europe since you don't have to worry about Uncle LEO. First in Germany where I travelled frequently and then in London where I spent significant amount of time. Based upon my experience, the Polish girls far outpaced the Czech girls but both were spectacular and a bargain compared to what we have here. In addition to Diva, https://www.admiralescorts.com/ is another great source in London and if you use Frankfurt as your gateway airport https://diamondescort-frankfurt.de/ is also tops.
WanderingAbout
10-07-20, 21:12
Then you go to Cincinnati section on Tryst and see how sad things are here.
I started my hobby in Europe since you don't have to worry about Uncle LEO. First in Germany where I travelled frequently and then in London where I spent significant amount of time. Based upon my experience, the Polish girls far outpaced the Czech girls but both were spectacular and a bargain compared to what we have here. In addition to Diva, https://www.admiralescorts.com/ is another great source in London and if you use Frankfurt as your gateway airport https://diamondescort-frankfurt.de/ is also tops.
I started my hobby in Europe since you don't have to worry about Uncle LEO. First in Germany where I travelled frequently and then in London where I spent significant amount of time. Based upon my experience, the Polish girls far outpaced the Czech girls but both were spectacular and a bargain compared to what we have here. In addition to Diva, https://www.admiralescorts.com/ is another great source in London and if you use Frankfurt as your gateway airport https://diamondescort-frankfurt.de/ is also tops.Who would have thought that when that iron curtain fell, it was to a bordello of Eastern block delights.
Smokey Gringo
10-09-20, 20:48
The first Forest answer gets maybe a nude from my MILF or Anpic of the highly coveted May.
What did this use to be before a church?
Sir LanceLicksalot
10-09-20, 22:06
The first Forest answer gets maybe a nude from my MILF or Anpic of the highly coveted May.
What did this use to be before a church?Since you didn't include a pic, I'm just guessing a ***** house or massage parlor.
The first Forest answer gets maybe a nude from my MILF or Anpic of the highly coveted May.
What did this use to be before a church?Forest.
Am I the first to give a Forest answer?
Then you go to Cincinnati section on Tryst and see how sad things are here.Throughout the history of mankind providers have been smart enough to take their earnings and use it wisely on things like food, rent, clothes, and all the accoutrements of life. In the US, the girls take their earnings and buy drugs. Every single American-born provider I've ever been with in the US is on drugs. Every single damn one! Don't kid yourselves, guys. That little philly that you're convinced is a diamond in the rough is just as strung out as any other.
Smokey Gringo
10-10-20, 11:46
Since you didn't include a pic, I'm just guessing a ***** house or massage parlor.I had a few drinks in me, but the website won't let me upload a pic. It keeps failing because maybe it's over the KB limit but it's the old Deja Vu Strip Club, which is now a Church!
Are you talking about the Deja Vu in Mt. Carmel?
The first Forest answer gets maybe a nude from my MILF or Anpic of the highly coveted May.
What did this use to be before a church?
CinciGuy7777
10-11-20, 00:11
Are you talking about the Deja Vu in Mt. Carmel?Closed is as closed does.
CG7777.
Sir LanceLicksalot
10-11-20, 08:33
Since two of us attempted to play along, without a pic how about sending us both pics of your UTR and May via PM?
The first Forest answer gets maybe a nude from my MILF or Anpic of the highly coveted May.
What did this use to be before a church?
Willow1535
10-11-20, 08:46
May has been out of the business for years and why would I want a picture of your UTR? You do realize that there are free pictures of hot women all over the internet? What's next? Are you going to start advertising an "only fans" account?
The first Forest answer gets maybe a nude from my MILF or Anpic of the highly coveted May.
What did this use to be before a church?
Katmandu6999
10-11-20, 12:22
May has been out of the business for years and why would I want a picture of your UTR? You do realize that there are free pictures of hot women all over the internet? What's next? Are you going to start advertising an "only fans" account?He'll be more than happy to sell you his pics!
Smokey Gringo
10-11-20, 12:40
May has been out of the business for years and why would I want a picture of your UTR? You do realize that there are free pictures of hot women all over the internet? What's next? Are you going to start advertising an "only fans" account?Name the time and place tough guy. I wasn't advertising. I was trying to have some fun with fellow mongers who may know the building but you want to go and be a prick.
Smokey Gringo
10-11-20, 13:28
He'll be more than happy to sell you his pics!I don't advertise actively, so you Had to have to inquired, but if you inquire, I tell you a price. I bet you're a hit at party's.
Todd Cincy
10-11-20, 14:39
Then you go to Cincinnati section on Tryst and see how sad things are here.I started hobbying in Mexico in the mid-1990's. I was getting Mexico City fashion models for about $70 US. That was a helluva a bargain even 20-odd years ago.
No place in the US will ever be as good as Mexico, or a country with a steady supply from Eastern Europe. But things in Cincinnati haven't always been this bad, either.
In 2016 and 2017 Cincinnati was much better. Discreet Desires of Dayton had a handful of beauties for $300. Seeking was still a very good hunting ground for SBs. I was getting college girls for $200 to $350.
Now, not-quite-post COVID, things are probably the worst I've seen them in Cincy since the Internet came along.
It used to be a tradeoff: cheap or attractive. Pick one. Now the cheap girls on Escort Babylon are absolutely hideous. Meanwhile, the girls on Tryst are both expensive and old / fat / nasty. The worst of *both* worlds.
I mean, seriously, does anyone really want this? (Especially for $400.).
https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz
My advice: Bide your time. The wheel will swing back around again.
Hillbilly Bob
10-11-20, 14:57
I started hobbying in Mexico in the mid-1990's. I was getting Mexico City fashion models for about $70 US. That was a helluva a bargain even 20-odd years ago.
No place in the US will ever be as good as Mexico, or a country with a steady supply from Eastern Europe. But things in Cincinnati haven't always been this bad, either.
In 2016 and 2017 Cincinnati was much better. Discreet Desires of Dayton had a handful of beauties for $300. Seeking was still a very good hunting ground for SBs. I was getting college girls for $200 to $350.
Now, not-quite-post COVID, things are probably the worst I've seen them in Cincy since the Internet came along.
It used to be a tradeoff: cheap or attractive. Pick one. Now the cheap girls on Escort Babylon are absolutely hideous. Meanwhile, the girls on Tryst are both expensive and old / fat / nasty. The worst of *both* worlds.
I mean, seriously, does anyone really want this? (Especially for $400.).
https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz
My advice: Bide your time. The wheel will swing back around again.Very true. Just find one you can spend your time with an enjoy yourself until things turn around. It not only Cincinnati its everywhere. I travel to Florida in the winter. Been talking to a few friends there an the say the same thing. Looks like while in Florida. I am not a huge fan of Massage Parlors but for now best thing is Orlando Massage Parlor you can get FS there. Stay Safe HB.
WanderingAbout
10-11-20, 15:52
No place in the US will ever be as good as Mexico, or a country with a steady supply from Eastern Europe. But things in Cincinnati haven't always been this bad, either.Queen City has never been a big go to location for gorgeous touring girls like Cleveland or Columbus but it was never that bad back in the day. Seems after Miami Companions closed up things started slowly heading south in Cincy and hasn't stopped.
I started hobbying in Mexico in the mid-1990's. I was getting Mexico City fashion models for about $70 US. That was a helluva a bargain even 20-odd years ago.
No place in the US will ever be as good as Mexico, or a country with a steady supply from Eastern Europe. But things in Cincinnati haven't always been this bad, either.
In 2016 and 2017 Cincinnati was much better. Discreet Desires of Dayton had a handful of beauties for $300. Seeking was still a very good hunting ground for SBs. I was getting college girls for $200 to $350.
Now, not-quite-post COVID, things are probably the worst I've seen them in Cincy since the Internet came along.
It used to be a tradeoff: cheap or attractive. Pick one. Now the cheap girls on Escort Babylon are absolutely hideous. Meanwhile, the girls on Tryst are both expensive and old / fat / nasty. The worst of *both* worlds.
I mean, seriously, does anyone really want this? (Especially for $400.).
https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz
My advice: Bide your time. The wheel will swing back around again.Its been bad. So bad, that I don't even bother when visiting anylonger. 411 is overpriced for the companions. Tryst is overrated. There were some nice looking ladies that graced our presence up to about 2019. But now, none are truly worth the price.
Willow1535
10-11-20, 23:36
Miami Companions, Discrete Desires and does anyone remember 9 Iron Girls?
Queen City has never been a big go to location for gorgeous touring girls like Cleveland or Columbus but it was never that bad back in the day. Seems after Miami Companions closed up things started slowly heading south in Cincy and hasn't stopped.
Willow1535
10-11-20, 23:51
Chuck E Cheese, Tri County, High Noon. Tuesday. I wonder what May would have to say about you offering to put pics of her out there.
Name the time and place tough guy. I wasn't advertising. I was trying to have some fun with fellow mongers who may know the building but you want to go and be a prick.
Willow1535
10-11-20, 23:56
I saw May enough when she was active and don't need his pics to refresh my memory. I wonder what she would have to say, if she knew that he was offering pics of her. What a douche!
He'll be more than happy to sell you his pics!
Katmandu6999
10-12-20, 18:37
Chuck E Cheese, Tri County, High Noon. Tuesday. I wonder what May would have to say about you offering to put pics of her out there.It won't be the first time there will be a brawl in that lot!
Katmandu6999
10-13-20, 18:01
It won't be the first time there will be a brawl in that lot!Wondering how the throwdown went??
Hillbilly Bob
10-13-20, 23:51
Wondering how the throwdown went??Smokey bought pizza and they played in the plastic ball pit an played games even had enough ticket to trade in for Chinese handcuffs.
WhereDreamsGo
10-14-20, 00:35
It's been a little while since I've visited a Sharonville notel, but I continue to be puzzled about how many guys have a problem with it. Yes, there have been busts there. But I also definitely have known providers who've been busted in all kinds of other places -- Blue Ash (probably pound for pound, given the number of no-tel level properties there, more active for LEO than Sharonville is), Eastgate, Florence and of course Cincinnati. It's been awhile since I've seen evidence or heard of a monger sting in Sharonville or anywhere, though I guess it could always happen.
It's also worth noting that Sharonville itself is a bigger problem -- the strip along Chester or whatever it's called -- but a lot of the notels are in Springdale, where the police seem to have better things to do.
But, visiting Marley in Sharonville, specifically, what's going to happen? I think she's pretty well demonstrated she's not working with LEO by now. Not that I've seen her for a while, because I think her working hours tend more toward the middle of the night, which isn't too convenient for me.
Hillbilly Bob
10-14-20, 08:01
It's been a little while since I've visited a Sharonville notel, but I continue to be puzzled about how many guys have a problem with it. Yes, there have been busts there. But I also definitely have known providers who've been busted in all kinds of other places -- Blue Ash (probably pound for pound, given the number of no-tel level properties there, more active for LEO than Sharonville is), Eastgate, Florence and of course Cincinnati. It's been awhile since I've seen evidence or heard of a monger sting in Sharonville or anywhere, though I guess it could always happen.
It's also worth noting that Sharonville itself is a bigger problem -- the strip along Chester or whatever it's called -- but a lot of the notels are in Springdale, where the police seem to have better things to do.
But, visiting Marley in Sharonville, specifically, what's going to happen? I think she's pretty well demonstrated she's not working with LEO by now. Not that I've seen her for a while, because I think her working hours tend more toward the middle of the night, which isn't too convenient for me.Marley is not in what is the hot spot of Sharonville strip. She is over east of that area. Inn near the Mexican Restaurant. Another popular provider also there.
It's been a little while since I've visited a Sharonville notel, but I continue to be puzzled about how many guys have a problem with it. Yes, there have been busts there. But I also definitely have known providers who've been busted in all kinds of other places -- Blue Ash (probably pound for pound, given the number of no-tel level properties there, more active for LEO than Sharonville is), Eastgate, Florence and of course Cincinnati. It's been awhile since I've seen evidence or heard of a monger sting in Sharonville or anywhere, though I guess it could always happen.
It's also worth noting that Sharonville itself is a bigger problem -- the strip along Chester or whatever it's called -- but a lot of the notels are in Springdale, where the police seem to have better things to do.
But, visiting Marley in Sharonville, specifically, what's going to happen? I think she's pretty well demonstrated she's not working with LEO by now. Not that I've seen her for a while, because I think her working hours tend more toward the middle of the night, which isn't too convenient for me.I think Springdale and Sharonville is being treated together as one zone, as "the Sharonville area", that area of the north loop around where 75 and 275 meet. Their reputation is largely because their LE Force makes the effort to publicize their prostitution busts in the press, as a way of scaring off providers and mongers and judging by this board, it has had some effect.
That is not to say that they have more busts than other areas like neigboring Blue Ash, but their busts are certainly more well known. (Remember the bust of the Fire Chief? This could be because while the Sharonville LEO makes a big deal of their busts, Blue Ash is working hard to keep their image as clean, business oriented, low crime, and family friendly. Getting on the news for multiple prostitution stings is not very Disney, so they keep it on the down low.
I for one would love to see actual statistical data on Vice arrests for the different areas around Cincinnati, and. KY included.
Smokey bought pizza and they played in the plastic ball pit an played games even had enough ticket to trade in for Chinese handcuffs.Tempers started to flare up again when they started playing ski ball. So they went back and had another slice of pizza and sang along with chuck e. It's amazing how everyone turns into a bada$$ on these anonymous boards.
Willow1535
10-14-20, 18:14
Smokey tried to get the drop on me, but realized that I was way to fast for him. We agreed to put our differences aside and spent some time inside talking about the hobby over a few slices and several glasses of ice cold milk. We agreed to move on. Smokey even agreed to pay. He left several pictures of his MILF to cover the tab and a few pictures of May, to cover the tip.
Tempers started to flare up again when they started playing ski ball. So they went back and had another slice of pizza and sang along with chuck e. It's amazing how everyone turns into a bada$$ on these anonymous boards.
Women of this caliber are not unusual throughout much of Europe, and at similar rates to here. In fact, you would be amazed at the talent pool.
CFG.Saving my money.
No need to go to Europe. We need to get this one to come to Dayton / Cincinnati.
http://www.elliealexandraxxx.com/home
Saving my money.
No need to go to Europe. We need to get this one to come to Dayton / Cincinnati.
http://www.elliealexandraxxx.com/homeGetting one to come here means there is only one for everyone to see. Going to Europe means there hundreds for one to see. See?
I started hobbying in Mexico in the mid-1990's. I was getting Mexico City fashion models for about $70 US. That was a helluva a bargain even 20-odd years ago.
No place in the US will ever be as good as Mexico, or a country with a steady supply from Eastern Europe. But things in Cincinnati haven't always been this bad, either.
In 2016 and 2017 Cincinnati was much better. Discreet Desires of Dayton had a handful of beauties for $300. Seeking was still a very good hunting ground for SBs. I was getting college girls for $200 to $350.
Now, not-quite-post COVID, things are probably the worst I've seen them in Cincy since the Internet came along.
It used to be a tradeoff: cheap or attractive. Pick one. Now the cheap girls on Escort Babylon are absolutely hideous. Meanwhile, the girls on Tryst are both expensive and old / fat / nasty. The worst of *both* worlds.
I mean, seriously, does anyone really want this? (Especially for $400.).
https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz
My advice: Bide your time. The wheel will swing back around again.Ah the good old days, plenty of money and too many $. 5- 5 girls to do! Things did change dramatically, for me and the hobby. Every once in a while I would find someone, post a review and PM guys with the number. Then they ghost! WTF. Too much drugs and drama anymore for my taste. It is comical anymore to see the scams these girls play.
Last one I hit up on WYP, sent some juicy pics, which were real, I saw her on facebook, planned to meet for $. Then the drama, can't get rid of my roommate, have things to do later, etc, etc. Finally she asked what I expected to do for that $? I said "I want to do you!" starting talking how she would get $$$ at the club for a VIP dance. Told her she should stick to dancing then. Oh well.
Ez out.
I started hobbying in 2014. In the last few years, quality had dropped as prices have risen, to where I am 95% retired. I can't help comparing when $2. 5 bought an hour duo with Sasha Black and Cupcake (that turned into 2 hours and a finale in a group shower!) to now-unattractive, unskilled, unenthusiastic, and unreliable. But NOT inexpensive. Blech.
The good dr.
I started hobbying in 2014. In the last few years, quality had dropped as prices have risen, to where I am 95% retired. I can't help comparing when $2. 5 bought an hour duo with Sasha Black and Cupcake (that turned into 2 hours and a finale in a group shower!) to now-unattractive, unskilled, unenthusiastic, and unreliable. But NOT inexpensive. Blech.
The good dr.I started the hobby in 1976. Yes you read that right. I think we are remembering the "good old days" with a little too much fondness. This area has never been a meca of good looking providers. It just hasn't. The difference is there always was about 2 or possibly 3 providers that were pretty good looking that gathered most of the attention and business. Now there doesn't even seem to be those 2 or 3 around or they have retired or gone utr. I have high standards. But I usually have to compromise those standards in this area, or have been. I now pretty much stick to my 2 utr's who are both very attractive and not really active in the business anyway. But I agree with you what's out there today, even with me compromising, is dismal. But to some its great. A lot of mongers on here have some of the lowest standards, but that's ok for them. To me though, this area is far less than it was for sure.
Ten or fifteen years ago there were a number of decent looking, reliable providers who would travel here regularly from Columbus, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, etc. For whatever reason, that doesn't seem to happen anymore.
I started the hobby in 1976. Yes you read that right. I think we are remembering the "good old days" with a little too much fondness. This area has never been a meca of good looking providers. It just hasn't. The difference is there always was about 2 or possibly 3 providers that were pretty good looking that gathered most of the attention and business. Now there doesn't even seem to be those 2 or 3 around or they have retired or gone utr. I have high standards. But I usually have to compromise those standards in this area, or have been. I now pretty much stick to my 2 utr's who are both very attractive and not really active in the business anyway. But I agree with you what's out there today, even with me compromising, is dismal. But to some its great. A lot of mongers on here have some of the lowest standards, but that's ok for them. To me though, this area is far less than it was for sure..
JohnsGood1
10-18-20, 11:35
I started hobbying in 2014. In the last few years, quality had dropped as prices have risen, to where I am 95% retired. I can't help comparing when $2. 5 bought an hour duo with Sasha Black and Cupcake (that turned into 2 hours and a finale in a group shower!) to now-unattractive, unskilled, unenthusiastic, and unreliable. But NOT inexpensive. Blech.
The good dr.Remember the Buddha Days Well. Sasha Blake & Cupcake were an Awesome Session that left you drained in this area. It was also a Time where Miami Companions had some of the most Beautiful girls visiting the Dayton & Cincinnati area. Brings back good times. Things seem to be dried up in this area since then.
Have Fun & Be Safe.
J. G.
Hillbilly Bob
10-18-20, 11:53
Remember the Buddha Days Well. Sasha Blake & Cupcake were an Awesome Session that left you drained in this area. It was also a Time where Miami Companions had some of the most Beautiful girls visiting the Dayton & Cincinnati area. Brings back good times. Things seem to be dried up in this area since then.
Have Fun & Be Safe.
J. G.Those were the days. Buddha had some great providers. This is not the only area dried up. Heading to new Lake in Florida next week for a few day on the Treasure coast. Checking there an talking to a few mongers not much to pick from there. Drug has taken over an ruined playing there also.
UOnlyLiveOnce
10-18-20, 11:57
I started hobbying in 2014. In the last few years, quality had dropped as prices have risen, to where I am 95% retired. I can't help comparing when $2. 5 bought an hour duo with Sasha Black and Cupcake (that turned into 2 hours and a finale in a group shower!) to now-unattractive, unskilled, unenthusiastic, and unreliable. But NOT inexpensive. Blech.
The good dr.I was just reminiscing the other day about my hobbying from roughly 2014 to 2017 or so. The Milford sisters (Megan and Vanessa), Busty Red in her prime, Brenna Nicolee, Lexxxxi (the one who was at an ESA in north Cincy for the longest time), and Gracie May were some of the ones I saw multiple times around then. I'll never forget the time I saw Busty at the apartment in Norwood when her AC was broken in the middle of summer. That session was smoking hot in more ways than one. Or the times Gracie May screwed my brains out to where I could barely walk afterwards. As for today, you know the story. I have to sit out for a bit anyway due to a family member's medical issues. But I still read your reports with hopes the local scene rebounds when I'm able to play again.
Katmandu6999
10-18-20, 18:14
No need to go to Europe. We need to get this one to come to Dayton / Cincinnati.
http://www.elliealexandraxxx.com/homeI have chatted with her on a number of occasions and have begged her to come to cincy. She does tour the midwest but Cincy has never been on her dance card. Maybe we could send her some visit requests.
Hillbilly Bob
10-18-20, 21:38
I was just reminiscing the other day about my hobbying from roughly 2014 to 2017 or so. The Milford sisters (Megan and Vanessa), Busty Red in her prime, Brenna Nicolee, Lexxxxi (the one who was at an ESA in north Cincy for the longest time), and Gracie May were some of the ones I saw multiple times around then. I'll never forget the time I saw Busty at the apartment in Norwood when her AC was broken in the middle of summer. That session was smoking hot in more ways than one. Or the times Gracie May screwed my brains out to where I could barely walk afterwards. As for today, you know the story. I have to sit out for a bit anyway due to a family member's medical issues. But I still read your reports with hopes the local scene rebounds when I'm able to play again.You are right Busty Red an Gracie May were great in their day. Both went down hill like most. However one of the best that never let the devil get them was Busty Brittany in the Dayton area until she got pregnant an left the business. Hope she is well but highly missed.
ThatGuy011
10-20-20, 02:05
The dumbasses reporting the Chester Rd Asians in 'massage parlors'.
Okay.
Anyone had real luck on any of the POF, Adultfriendfinder, etc?
I have found that the 40+ non-pro's or the absolute best, especially if they've kept up their body!
Usually they are almost too aggressive in the sack. With this covid bs going on there are almost.
No late night women prowling anymore. Any comments on any of those "Women Desparate for Dick!" sites?
Ez out.
Not sure if here is appropriate, and I'm sure the question is answered somewhere but I'm old and too lazy trtff!
AFF seems like mostly if not all fake ads to me. I had luck once on POF a few years back on POF. I've had decent luck over the years on AM if you are willing to buy the credits. And no, I experienced no blowback when they vwere hacked a few years ago.
Anyone had real luck on any of the POF, Adultfriendfinder, etc?
I have found that the 40+ non-pro's or the absolute best, especially if they've kept up their body!
Usually they are almost too aggressive in the sack. With this covid bs going on there are almost.
No late night women prowling anymore. Any comments on any of those "Women Desparate for Dick!" sites?
Ez out.
Not sure if here is appropriate, and I'm sure the question is answered somewhere but I'm old and too lazy trtff!.
I have found that the 40+ non-pro's or the absolute best, especially if they've kept up their body!
Usually they are almost too aggressive in the sack. With this covid bs going on there are almost.
No late night women prowling anymore. Any comments on any of those "Women Desparate for Dick!" sites?
Ez out.40+ year old cougars are all around, if you look in the correct places. You won't find them in clubs with pounding music; that where you find girls in their 20's, women in their 30's pretending to be in their 20's, and 50 year old men lusting after those women.
Women in their 40's hang out in more subdued places; restaurants with late night bars or a local watering hole where they know the owner and get discounts on drinks. The days of The Waterfront are long gone, so turn your eyes towards local spots by the suburbs, where cougars don't need to travel far from home.
Hillbilly Bob
10-20-20, 12:38
The dumbasses reporting the Chester Rd Asians in 'massage parlors'.
Okay.What is your point.
MarblesKyle
10-21-20, 09:12
What is your point.They are listed on rub ratings, are they not?
They advertise massage services. While it's not a true AMP I think it's fitting to put their reviews in either the AMP thread or the escort thread. Nobody should be bothered by that, except the guys that are looking for legit massages only. How many of them are there?
While we are on the subject. Are these multiple numbers the same handler? I get the same responses from each number, most recently they both are unable to send pictures now because they both got new phones. Awfully interesting coincidence.
I'm wondering if maybe they just use different phones for each girl but it's one person running it all holding the phones.
ThatGuy011
10-21-20, 11:51
What is your point.Not really a point, boomer.
Hell I got called that by a average over priced provider on here a month ago. You and Ryan should get together THAT GUY Or retire with her. You have no respect for us or yourself with your sticks and stones bull shit. Grow the fuck up. Go play with your rubber doll and let the real men take care of the providers. Lenny6749.
ThatGuy011
10-22-20, 00:52
Hell I got called that by a average over priced provider on here a month ago. You and Ryan should get together THAT GUY Or retire with her. You have no respect for us or yourself with your sticks and stones bull shit. Grow the fuck up. Go play with your rubber doll and let the real men take care of the providers. Lenny6749.A "real man" taking care of providers?
Your cognitive dissonance is showing. Paid pussy isn't a measure of anything meaningful, especially not manhood. Even more of joke said by someone who likey needs blue pills to function in the first place.
WanderingMan
10-22-20, 10:14
AFF seems like mostly if not all fake ads to me. I had luck once on POF a few years back on POF. I've had decent luck over the years on AM if you are willing to buy the credits. And no, I experienced no blowback when they were hacked a few years ago.Adult Friend Finder faced lawsuits because of all the fake female profiles they load onto the site as well as the loss of information from millions of accounts. One should pay with a Vanilla card that allows you to load a zip code with no name before subscribing to any of the accounts like Adult Friend Finder or Ashley Madison. As always, good luck with your endeavors.
Anyone had real luck on any of the POF, Adultfriendfinder, etc?
I have found that the 40+ non-pro's or the absolute best, especially if they've kept up their body!
Usually they are almost too aggressive in the sack. With this covid bs going on there are almost.
No late night women prowling anymore. Any comments on any of those "Women Desparate for Dick!" sites?
Ez out.
Not sure if here is appropriate, and I'm sure the question is answered somewhere but I'm old and too lazy trtff!I signed up years ago and paid for a full year. It was almost all fake ads, I didn't have any luck there. The live videos from members were good if you like watching folks cam. A word of warning, I didn't renew and they automatically renewed me for another year. I had to contact the Ohio AG's office to get my money back. Same thing happened with Match so I recommend taking caution with all these folks.
Willow1535
10-23-20, 00:02
Cut him a little slack! It's just Lenny being, you know;Lenny.
A "real man" taking care of providers?
Your cognitive dissonance is showing. Paid pussy isn't a measure of anything meaningful, especially not manhood. Even more of joke said by someone who likey needs blue pills to function in the first place.
CinciGuy7777
10-23-20, 01:06
I signed up years ago and paid for a full year. It was almost all fake ads, I didn't have any luck there. The live videos from members were good if you like watching folks cam. A word of warning, I didn't renew and they automatically renewed me for another year. I had to contact the Ohio AG's office to get my money back. Same thing happened with Match so I recommend taking caution with all these folks.I had zero luck back like 8 or more years ago with Adult Friend Finder. Zero.
Stay safe.
CG7777.
Cut him a little slack! It's just Lenny being, you know;Lenny.Everyone has their own special niche in this game. All of us should be thankful that Lenny takes care of the Under-$20 girls!
Dear Bengalman Thatguy and my old friend Willow. All three of you couldn't find a pussy if it was shoved in your faces. Cut me some slack Hell no! 20 dollar girls never had one. Bengal you must have had plenty. Viagra why not I bet none of you three know how it works. Do you THATGUY. I just got finished with a very pretty 21 year old about two hours ago. Do you three need directions on how to find them Besides looking at ads? I wonder. By the way porn stars use Viagra they have been using it for years. If you three sorry fucks need help finding a good clean provider let me know. Lenny6746.
I won't argue with either of you. There's enough of that going around right now.
That said, I also wouldn't argue with you if you shared the 21-why old's digits!
Dear Bengalman Thatguy and my old friend Willow. All three of you couldn't find a pussy if it was shoved in your faces. Cut me some slack Hell no! 20 dollar girls never had one. Bengal you must have had plenty. Viagra why not I bet none of you three know how it works. Do you THATGUY. I just got finished with a very pretty 21 year old about two hours ago. Do you three need directions on how to find them Besides looking at ads? I wonder. By the way porn stars use Viagra they have been using it for years. If you three sorry fucks need help finding a good clean provider let me know. Lenny6746.
ThatGuy011
10-24-20, 01:20
Dear Bengalman Thatguy and my old friend Willow. All three of you couldn't find a pussy if it was shoved in your faces. Cut me some slack Hell no! 20 dollar girls never had one. Bengal you must have had plenty. Viagra why not I bet none of you three know how it works. Do you THATGUY. I just got finished with a very pretty 21 year old about two hours ago. Do you three need directions on how to find them Besides looking at ads? I wonder. By the way porn stars use Viagra they have been using it for years. If you three sorry fucks need help finding a good clean provider let me know. Lenny6746.LOL. Who brags about paid pussy? Old out of touch boomers that think they are the man because some drug addled chick well above his league fucks him for dope. Also pretty funny I make a mere joke about Viagra and it turns out you actually use the shit. That's the real laugh. Let me also guess. You believe they actually like you, and you have good dick, and you make them cum too?
Just remember, you took my mention of the word boomer personal and just happen to prove that you are just that. Tell me more about how you're the man, guy.
I just got finished with a very pretty 21 year old about two hours ago. Do you three need directions on how to find them Besides looking at ads? I could use directions LOL. I've been having a hell of a time finding anything.
C21.
CinciGuy7777
10-24-20, 22:20
I could use directions LOL. I've been having a hell of a time finding anything.
C21.I could use any assistance you would provide.
CG7777.
Vinnie Kramer
10-26-20, 08:51
Minor oversight I am sure, but the WaPo definitely does not have an evangelical base. Unless by base you mean people who loathe your reporting and opinions.
The Washington Post is just trying to get their evangelical base stirred up and turn Kamala Harris into the She Devil. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2015/washington-times-has-history-hyped-stories-shoddy-reporting-and-failing-correct-errors.
Hillbilly Bob
10-26-20, 09:38
Minor oversight I am sure, but the WaPo definitely does not have an evangelical base. Unless by base you mean people who loathe your reporting and opinions.+1 I agree.
The Washington Post is just trying to get their evangelical base stirred up and turn Kamala Harris into the She Devil. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2015/washington-times-has-history-hyped-stories-shoddy-reporting-and-failing-correct-errors.
Minor oversight I am sure, but the WaPo definitely does not have an evangelical base. Unless by base you mean people who loathe your reporting and opinions.I've spoken to number of "the evangelical base" and for most part the people I have spoken to are single policy voters. They most care about one thing and are willing to overlook most anything if they could get that 1 thing- a ban on abortion. They will vote for whoever candidate will most likely repeal Roe v. Wade. Prostitution is pretty low on their agenda as some consider it punishment on earth for other sins they may have committed like drugs.
If Joe Biden or Kamala Harris were to promise to protect the fetus and declare themselves to be pro-life, that evangelical base would swing Democrat so fast, Rudy Giuliani wouldn't have time to take his hands out of his pants in that new Borat movie.
If Joe Biden or Kamala Harris were to promise to protect the fetus and declare themselves to be pro-life, that evangelical base would swing Democrat so fast, Rudy Giuliani wouldn't have time to take his hands out of his pants in that new Borat movie.If there was more for them to gain doing so, they already would have. Doing so would turn more of there base against them then they would gain.
If there was more for them to gain doing so, they already would have. Doing so would turn more of there base against them then they would gain.Actually, they wouldn't lose as much as you think. There are a lot less 1 issue voters that are voting Democrat. There's a whole laundry list of things that as if Joe Biden and Kamala Harris maintained their position, their base would stick by them regardless of abortion rights. Among these are protections for LGBTQ+ people, healthcare, immigration reform, DACA, police britality against POC, corporate tax reform, etc.
Like I said, most of the evangelicals I spoke with a 1 issue voters, and if they can get abortion rights rescinded, AND get healthcare to the poor (for their heal the sick urges), they will swing blue. Evangelicals care about being seen as "Jesus like". That's why protecting the fetus is such a big deal; it's the BIGGEST deal. It matters more to them than anything else.
But however way the voter math would work in their favor if they did a 180 on pro-choice policy, they are not going to do it. Because pro-choice isn't just about fetuses. Pro-choice is being able to choose a lot of things, such as gender identity, pro-getting married or not getting married, choosing to serve openly in the military. Basically being pro-choice means being able to live life without interference from anyone else as long as your choices don't affect others.
WhereDreamsGo
10-26-20, 23:59
Minor oversight I am sure, but the WaPo definitely does not have an evangelical base. Unless by base you mean people who loathe your reporting and opinions.WaPo is a real newspaper. The Washington Examiner is not.
Minor oversight I am sure, but the WaPo definitely does not have an evangelical base. Unless by base you mean people who loathe your reporting and opinions.I tried to edit the post, no longer an option.
JeeperBrah
10-27-20, 21:20
Evening brothers, been a while since I lived in the area but I'll be back in town around the 10th of next month. Staying near the airport and looking for something quality- anybody have any recommendations? Be safe.
J.
Evening brothers, been a while since I lived in the area but I'll be back in town around the 10th of next month. Staying near the airport and looking for something quality- anybody have any recommendations? Be safe.
J.If you're talking about CVG Airport, you're out of luck. If you're talking about ORD, JFK, LAX, or MUA, then you have made. But for the wellspring, BAI or GIG.
CheeseBall
10-29-20, 22:51
Just dropping a quick rant here that EB is an awful website and we deserve something better. My account on there got banned after posting a negative review for a provider that scammed me. We need a better system.
JustACustomer
10-30-20, 14:13
If you're talking about CVG Airport, you're out of luck. If you're talking about ORD, JFK, LAX, or MUA, then you have made. But for the wellspring, BAI or GIG.Damn it. Got me looking up airport codes. LOL.
Mall Guy101
10-30-20, 19:10
Just dropping a quick rant here that EB is an awful website and we deserve something better. My account on there got banned after posting a negative review for a provider that scammed me. We need a better system.I hate to say you are just finding out about this. I have known for years and I my self have been banned. You can't believe any of there reviews. When an ad seemed to good to be true I checked around in other cities and saw the same girl with the same ad just different number but the same person reviewed her in the different ads and some used the same number, there is a sight called escortindex.com/ gallery / cincinnati. Many times they show and name other city's the girl has run ads and how many times posted. If I can't find information here if someone is fake I look their and see if they have information. Another sight to watch out for is the erotic review. Many times, as well all know, you might have a couple of good experiences, then they either ghost you or turn in to cash and dash. If you have reviewed a girl once there they will not let you leave another one.
Just dropping a quick rant here that EB is an awful website and we deserve something better. My account on there got banned after posting a negative review for a provider that scammed me. We need a better system.Just report them here. All the guys that keep getting scammed will find us eventually right? Until then help keep the rest of us safe.
Got a call from this piece several nights ago wanting to get together again.
She is awful and a scammer at best. Promises a lot but never delivers, and always shorts you on time.
Now she says she is changed and a new person. Watch out!
She performs poorly. She will hit you up for "babysitting" on top of her donation, but she doesn't have kids-they've been taken away.
Her boyfriend hides in the other room while you visit.
Avoid unless you like trouble!
I think I may have lost my main UTR. Been seeing her at my place for over a year and a half, two times a week without fail. Used to be in the biz and got out a while ago. Started seeing her again like I said a year and a half ago when I ran into her at her legit job. We first did dinner and that stuff, a little grocery shopping but nothing serious and no sex. Then one day texted me and said she felt guilty about the stuff I do for her so how about a BJ? I said sure. She came over, almost left because said she felt guilty because she had a long term boyfriend and didn't do that stuff anymore. I said ok so you can leave that I understand. Well we started it up and overtime she would tell me the bf was getting suspicious as she always told him she was working at a restaurant on the nights she came over. He tried to track her phone. Was buying her stuff here and there and he started really getting suspicious but she assured me he was dumb. And it appeared he was. Then recently he found out the restaurant she claimed to work at was actually closed because of covid. She told me just a few days ago and he was getting crazier and crazier and wished he was out of her life as she was afraid of him. I started getting strange calls. He sort of knew I existed but didn't know in what form. He was told I was a relative. I always figured one day she would just up and not respond. Saw her a few days ago, it was GFE as usual and she looked great. Told me she would see me on the next one. Then on that day no text on her way or anything. Never happened before. Strange. Then I noticed she had me blocked on FB that actually the bf had control over. My number blocked but she routinely did that as the bf would check her phone. I suspect things have come to a head with the live in bf. Got tons of videos and pics but I suspect that might be the end of it. I hope not.
Hillbilly Bob
10-31-20, 10:02
Just dropping a quick rant here that EB is an awful website and we deserve something better. My account on there got banned after posting a negative review for a provider that scammed me. We need a better system.Been ban for a while now on my PC It goes to Eros. I can get on from my phone but not worth the time. Fakes adds an the reviews are worthless. Wish the sister site was back.
Got a call from this piece several nights ago wanting to get together again.
She is awful and a scammer at best. Promises a lot but never delivers, and always shorts you on time.
Now she says she is changed and a new person. Watch out!
She performs poorly. She will hit you up for "babysitting" on top of her donation, but she doesn't have kids-they've been taken away.
Her boyfriend hides in the other room while you visit.
Avoid unless you like trouble!Since she is aware of her bad reputation and claims to, "be a new person", you can use that to your advantage. Tell her beforehand that you expect no less than the full time of service, and you will be the one to set the time. Tell her enthusiasm is expected; no dead fish. You will pay only AFTER and if you are shorted on time or there are any issues at all, you will pay accordingly.
Also, good or bad, you will be posting a review. Reviews don't matter for those only think short term or can only focus on their next fix. But there are those rare occasions where the thought of losing out on future business urges them to give a better service. It's rare, but it does happen and costs you nothing.
Since she is aware of her bad reputation and claims to, "be a new person", you can use that to your advantage. Tell her beforehand that you expect no less than the full time of service, and you will be the one to set the time. Tell her enthusiasm is expected; no dead fish. You will pay only AFTER and if you are shorted on time or there are any issues at all, you will pay accordingly.
Also, good or bad, you will be posting a review. Reviews don't matter for those only think short term or can only focus on their next fix. But there are those rare occasions where the thought of losing out on future business urges them to give a better service. It's rare, but it does happen and costs you nothing.Thanks for the tips. I think they would work on most serious providers. This one is hopeless and not capable of rehabilitation.
WanderingMan
10-31-20, 22:41
Be careful mongers. Apparently Blue Ash was running a sting along with hotels there this week. They found a 16 year old girl who was acting as a provider. They didn't say who, nor would you expect them to say it.
https://www.fox19.com/2020/10/30/blue-ash-police-charge-after-prostitution-sting-involving-underage-girl/
WhereDreamsGo
10-31-20, 23:58
Be careful mongers. Apparently Blue Ash was running a sting along with hotels there this week. They found a 16 year old girl who was acting as a provider. They didn't say who, nor would you expect them to say it.
https://www.fox19.com/2020/10/30/blue-ash-police-charge-after-prostitution-sting-involving-underage-girl/Like I said, I think Blue Ash is more active in terms of LEO activity than Sharonville at this point, and probably most places, considering how relatively few low-end hotels they have. But none of these folks look familiar, fortunately.
Just dropping a quick rant here that EB is an awful website and we deserve something better. My account on there got banned after posting a negative review for a provider that scammed me. We need a better system.Too true. I posted about a flat ripoff and was rewarded by being banned. Total BS.
Tgd.
MarblesKyle
11-01-20, 11:11
I keep seeing providers say in their adds "I don't have time for endless texts" or "only text me if you are ready to see me right now."
While it's totally understandable that there are probably a lot of creeps out there that hit these women up for nudes or some back and fourth with no intention of seeing them, some of these providers won't even answer a second text.
When I contact a new provider it is the same routine every time. I usually get everything covered in three to four messages, I could send one message with all of the questions but I've always thought that to be rude.
1.) Are you taking new clients?
2.) Part of town?
3.) Rates?
4.) Menu limitations?
Five years ago most providers would answer all of those questions and we'd be off to the races. Now I would say 70% or less respond to the initial text, then from there I'm lucky to see 30% make it to the second one. I'd say one in ten clearly answer all my questions and get through sending 2-3 messages in response.
I guess I'll just start sending long initial texts and see where that gets me. I'm very selective about who I contact, and usually don't reach out unless I've seen them get a "good" review on here hoping that I'll be dealing with someone who can be professional for 3 minutes. How f*cking hard is it to market yourself a little bit to land a good client? This isn't even marketing really, it's just laying out your terms.
Is it just that everyone is a junkie now, or too many creeps hit them up, or a little of both? I'd go grab a walker for. 4 if I wasn't worried about minor details.
. . . Is it just that everyone is a junkie now, or too many creeps hit them up, or a little of both? I'd go grab a walker for. 4 if I wasn't worried about minor details.I've said it before and I'll say it again. EVERY provider is addicted. Every single one of them. Why would we think they're going have any business sense? As far as they're concerned, all they need is $60 a day to support a strong habit, and they know they can get that in one swoop. I think everyone of them is coherent enough for their first trick of the day (whenever they manage to wake up and actually start their day). After that, they're wasted for the next six or eight hours.
MarblesKyle
11-02-20, 09:17
I've said it before and I'll say it again. EVERY provider is addicted. Every single one of them. Why would we think they're going have any business sense? As far as they're concerned, all they need is $60 a day to support a strong habit, and they know they can get that in one swoop. I think everyone of them is coherent enough for their first trick of the day (whenever they manage to wake up and actually start their day). After that, they're wasted for the next six or eight hours.If you are referring to everyone walking and on LC, sure. EVERY SINGLE ONE of them though? I'm not sure.
If you venture beyond LC there are some out there that aren't addicts. I can think of two in the area that aren't addicts that I've seen within the last year. Whether they fit the bill of someone you want to see is your call, but they definitely are not on drugs daily. One is $$ per hour and the other is $$ 5. I would say one of them is completely straight edge, and the other will party but isn't on smack or meth.
Also, I can't imagine the EROS girls charging four bills are junkies. Maybe some recreational powder but nothing that makes them have to feed an addiction on a daily basis. I've not seen any of them but I feel like that would be easy to spot and widely reported.
But yes, an overwhelming majority are addicts and I am constantly searching for those who aren't.
LakersFan29
11-02-20, 12:24
If you are referring to everyone walking and on LC, sure. EVERY SINGLE ONE of them though? I'm not sure.
If you venture beyond LC there are some out there that aren't addicts. I can think of two in the area that aren't addicts that I've seen within the last year. Whether they fit the bill of someone you want to see is your call, but they definitely are not on drugs daily. One is $$ per hour and the other is $$ 5. I would say one of them is completely straight edge, and the other will party but isn't on smack or meth.
Also, I can't imagine the EROS girls charging four bills are junkies. Maybe some recreational powder but nothing that makes them have to feed an addiction on a daily basis. I've not seen any of them but I feel like that would be easy to spot and widely reported.
But yes, an overwhelming majority are addicts and I am constantly searching for those who aren't.You have a few Eros girls that are heroin addicts. Some may hide a little better by snorting the heroin, or shoot up in their tattoos to hide marks, so o yeah. There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes before we meet up with them and see their pretty faces.
FitAndHung
11-02-20, 13:50
Hey all,
I have a friend that I am trying to help set up a gangbang for. She is around 50, tall and slender. Smallish tits but still very sexy. She absolutely needs cock. She can't get enough of it. I think she could go 24/7 with time only to piss and eat.
She would like 4-5 quality guys to fuck.
Here are the criteria:
1. Be in shape and clean. No big bellies. Don't need Brad Pitt abs, but no sloppy guys. Also be trimmed. No big hairy Bush. Good hygiene is a must. Please have all of your teeth. That helps too.
2. No smokers. Her preference. We will smell it, don't try to hide it.
3. Don't by an asshole. Show up when we say, on time, ready to play. Expect to go 2-3 rounds, so if you need a blue pill, please be prepared. We don't want any one and done.
4. Be available during the day. Seems like the easiest for those with family issues. We will make this during the day at a hotel.
5. If you are willing to get tested or have been, bring results. Bareback is an option but only if its as safe as we can make it. It's never totally safe.
Ideally you are age 35-50 or so, in decent shape, clean and well groomed. You've done this before and are comfortable in a group.
This is for her pleasure, not for profit. That being said we need to divide the cost of the room. That's it.
Send me a PM with a number I can text. If you don't have a safe number, get Google voice or a burner. I'll also be asking for pics. Can obscure the face, but we want to see body pics.
Please don't contact me if you aren't what we are looking for. Will be someplace on East side of Cincy or Blue Ash.
EloquentEven
11-02-20, 15:15
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You have a few Eros girls that are heroin addicts. Some may hide a little better by snorting the heroin, or shoot up in their tattoos to hide marks, so o yeah. There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes before we meet up with them and see their pretty faces.I've posted before about seeing users and non users. I stop seeing anyone I suspect of using. I think their self worth affects judgement. Both users I knew offered me BBFS, even though I'm just a massage kinda guy. I didn't take them up on their offers. Others that I have seen over the years are in this to make ends meet. Maybe there is a difference between providers offering massages and those offering FS.
EloquentEven
11-03-20, 11:34
Don't forget to exercise your 15th amendment right to Vote today!
IlvblckGrls
11-06-20, 12:08
So, since this happens every so often, I thought I'd write this general public service announcement that, despite my user name, I am in no way an expert on all the black girls advertising. I am not particularly wealthy, I don't get out much, and I spend a disproportionate amount of my time with Thalia. I can't really help with insider information on ads by black girls. If I haven't posted a review here, then I have no idea! LOL.
Dillsborodave
11-06-20, 20:38
Don't forget to exercise your 15th amendment right to Vote today!I'm thinking if you have to pay taxes you should have to vote. But I guess that would be the government forcing you to do something.
I'm thinking if you have to pay taxes you should have to vote. But I guess that would be the government forcing you to do something.Non-citizens who work in the US, legally, pay taxes. If you're passing through a US airport, and buy gum on your way to a different country, you paid taxes on that at gum. If you're a business in the US, even foreign owned and headquartered, you pay taxes.
Then the other side of the coin, what if you have no income and are homeless? Are you them stripped of your right to vote simply because you are not currently paying taxes?
Voting is a right, but is not a requirement. Non-participation is part of free speech.
Non-citizens who work in the US, legally, pay taxes. If you're passing through a US airport, and buy gum on your way to a different country, you paid taxes on that at gum. If you're a business in the US, even foreign owned and headquartered, you pay taxes.
Then the other side of the coin, what if you have no income and are homeless? Are you them stripped of your right to vote simply because you are not currently paying taxes?
Voting is a right, but is not a requirement. Non-participation is part of free speech.Well said, Nuts, well said.
IlvblckGrls
11-08-20, 13:59
So there is a provider I mess around with. I help her with her ads, taking pics, and such, and then every so often I earn a free quickie.
This past week, she got caught. Got lured to a hotel and they busted her.
Here's my question: should this change my view on whether she is "safe" to visit?
So there is a provider I mess around with. I help her with her ads, taking pics, and such, and then every so often I earn a free quickie.
This past week, she got caught. Got lured to a hotel and they busted her.
Here's my question: should this change my view on whether she is "safe" to visit?Seek legal counsel first. Visiting her should be the least and last of your concern. "Aiding and abetting" if she mentions you is first. Seek legal counsel.
UOnlyLiveOnce
11-08-20, 15:13
So there is a provider I mess around with. I help her with her ads, taking pics, and such, and then every so often I earn a free quickie.
This past week, she got caught. Got lured to a hotel and they busted her.
Here's my question: should this change my view on whether she is "safe" to visit?Talk to a lawyer and just assume she threw you under the bus and maybe even told LE you're her handler. If it was me, I'd also get rid of the burner phone. This is a case where assuming the worst is the only way to go.
IlvblckGrls
11-08-20, 16:41
Talk to a lawyer and just assume she threw you under the bus and maybe even told LE you're her handler. If it was me, I'd also get rid of the burner phone. This is a case where assuming the worst is the only way to go.Jesus, guys, slow down! LOL. She doesn't know my name, and my involvement with her is rather minimal. So I guess don't go see her again, huh? LOL.
So there is a provider I mess around with. I help her with her ads, taking pics, and such, and then every so often I earn a free quickie.
This past week, she got caught. Got lured to a hotel and they busted her.
Here's my question: should this change my view on whether she is "safe" to visit?Last thing she was or is thinking about is you. Just keep in touch, but at a distance.
So there is a provider I mess around with. I help her with her ads, taking pics, and such, and then every so often I earn a free quickie.
This past week, she got caught. Got lured to a hotel and they busted her.
Here's my question: should this change my view on whether she is "safe" to visit?You're fine. Forget that lawyer crap. That was stupid advice. She got caught in a sting and that's that. LE isn't interested in her johns. And they would need specific evidence aka recorded conversations between you and her about sex drugs etc, if they are interested in you, which they are not. If you were her handling and had other girls then yes. But you are a customer. Just play it cool with her for a while. I'm sure she is willing to try and work off her case so be careful with her.
Seek legal counsel first. Visiting her should be the least and last of your concern. "Aiding and abetting" if she mentions you is first. Seek legal counsel.Come on D, you seek legal council if you get popped, not every time you have a semi close call! He helped post ads, that ain't pimpin! Peace and love your contributions! JJ.
Come on D, you seek legal council if you get popped, not every time you have a semi close call! He helped post ads, that ain't pimpin! Peace and love your contributions! JJ.Whenever anyone assists in facilitating another to engage in sexual acts for hire, it could be construed as promoting prostitution. Which would be front page news in the current battle against human trafficking.
Doingitmyway
11-10-20, 17:08
I thought seeing Redd from the westside in a UDF was interesting. Well it appears there is a girl from ListcCrawler that lives right down the street from me. I was out for my doctor prescribed walk and caught one of her very distinctive features I remembered from her ad. I knew she is one of a couple girls in the same area as me, but after passing her and looking at her pictures in the ad, I know it's her. Now here's the fun part. I have no interest in seeing her, she is just not my type. Might be for the better though.
Stay safe Brothers.
MisforMaster
11-10-20, 18:41
So there is a provider I mess around with. I help her with her ads, taking pics, and such, and then every so often I earn a free quickie.
This past week, she got caught. Got lured to a hotel and they busted her.
Here's my question: should this change my view on whether she is "safe" to visit?Welcome to promoting, my friend.
The question is, did she turn on you, or did she keep her mouth shut?
Alternatively, if you're doing this with a few other girls, you've now got a target on your back, but, if it's just a single girl, it's likely that they've brushed it off as some chick trying to get rid of her charges.
Either way, this should be a good wakeup call for you: either you're comfortable with Promoting Prostitution charges and the penalties that it carries, or you're not. If you're fine with that, or think you can brush that shit off in court, keep on fucking her. If you're not, then it's time to burn that phone in the Ohio River and get yourself a new phone.
DickHerDown
11-13-20, 11:27
Hey guys, if anyone can host in northern Kentucky I have a treat for you. Submissive 19 year old **** and she obeys my every command. If you are hosting and decent looking then hit me up!
Hillbilly Bob
11-13-20, 12:40
Hey guys, if anyone can host in northern Kentucky I have a treat for you. Submissive 19 year old **** and she obeys my every command. If you are hosting and decent looking then hit me up!Are you saying you will be there during the session.
DickHerDown
11-13-20, 13:34
Hey guys, if anyone can host in northern Kentucky I have a treat for you. Submissive 19 year old **** and she obeys my every command. If you are hosting and decent looking then hit me up!Guys, you don't have to be a genius to figure this out. I've already had 5 idiots message me things like, "what's up with this?" Or "can I have her number?" I clearly posted what I was looking for in my previous post. A decent looking guy hosting in nky area who wants to tag team this girl with me. Please no more fucking idiots inbox me about this.
Hillbilly Bob
11-13-20, 13:47
Guys, you don't have to be a genius to figure this out. I've already had 5 idiots message me things like, "what's up with this?" Or "can I have her number?" I clearly posted what I was looking for in my previous post. A decent looking guy hosting in nky area who wants to tag team this girl with me. Please no more fucking idiots inbox me about this.Sorry but I must be one of the idiots. I ask if you were going to be there during the session. You said nothing in your first post about tag team.
Todd Cincy
11-14-20, 22:32
I was considering pulling the trigger on 'Carmen'. According to some of you, she has some past issues with substance abuse, and she has bad teeth. But she's not old enough to be a grandmother, she doesn't look rough as hell, and she's not heavier than my 175 lbs. All hard to come by in the current market:
https://tryst.link/escort/carmen-482
I checked back at her ad today, and she's basically increased her price by $100. (To $400 incall, or $380 outcall).
This girl is about $100 overpriced.
So is Ryan, who used to work for Steve:
https://tryst.link/escort/ryannxoxo
And then there's this girl, who is $200 overpriced at $500:
https://tryst.link/escort/elizabethmarie4299
I don't know about the rest of you, but I may just hold on to my money for a while and wait for things to improve. I'm not interested in seeing the nasty girls who are old and overweight, but I'm not willing to pay $400 to $500 for a merely decent girl, either.
How many of you are simply holding on to cash right now, vs seeing old / overweight providers, or overpaying for ones that are moderately young / thin / attractive?
Has the poor selection reduced your spending on the hobby?Definitely. I pay for a fantasy experience, not just to pop one off. For that, I have certain standards that I am not compromising. Unfortunately for me, those traits are currently overpriced; available but at the current rates it's just not worth it. I could go cheaper, but that wouldn't be giving me what I want.
So my choices are, waste money getting something I don't want, or over paying for something I do want. Either way, there's going to be some money down the drain.
Hillbilly Bob
11-15-20, 00:16
I was considering pulling the trigger on 'Carmen'. According to some of you, she has some past issues with substance abuse, and she has bad teeth. But she's not old enough to be a grandmother, she doesn't look rough as hell, and she's not heavier than my 175 lbs. All hard to come by in the current market:
https://tryst.link/escort/carmen-482
I checked back at her ad today, and she's basically increased her price by $100. (To $400 incall, or $380 outcall).
This girl is about $100 overpriced.
So is Ryan, who used to work for Steve:
https://tryst.link/escort/ryannxoxo
And then there's this girl, who is $200 overpriced at $500:
https://tryst.link/escort/elizabethmarie4299
I don't know about the rest of you, but I may just hold on to my money for a while and wait for things to improve. I'm not interested in seeing the nasty girls who are old and overweight, but I'm not willing to pay $400 to $500 for a merely decent girl, either.
How many of you are simply holding on to cash right now, vs seeing old / overweight providers, or overpaying for ones that are moderately young / thin / attractive?Your #1 Carmen with bad teeth I am out at half that price. #2 Ryan I fell she is worth her rate but has a age limit so I am out there also and for your last one she wants 20 percent up front so again I am out will never ay in advance for any provider. Good luck slim pickens but if you do your home work there are still good ones out there. I will stil spend my money on the good ones.
I was considering pulling the trigger on 'Carmen'. According to some of you, she has some past issues with substance abuse, and she has bad teeth. But she's not old enough to be a grandmother, she doesn't look rough as hell, and she's not heavier than my 175 lbs. All hard to come by in the current market:
https://tryst.link/escort/carmen-482
I checked back at her ad today, and she's basically increased her price by $100. (To $400 incall, or $380 outcall).
This girl is about $100 overpriced.
So is Ryan, who used to work for Steve:
https://tryst.link/escort/ryannxoxo
And then there's this girl, who is $200 overpriced at $500:
https://tryst.link/escort/elizabethmarie4299
I don't know about the rest of you, but I may just hold on to my money for a while and wait for things to improve. I'm not interested in seeing the nasty girls who are old and overweight, but I'm not willing to pay $400 to $500 for a merely decent girl, either.
How many of you are simply holding on to cash right now, vs seeing old / overweight providers, or overpaying for ones that are moderately young / thin / attractive?I wouldn't pay over $150 for any of these girls. Their looks are average at best. I guess some people now are just throwing some number to see if anyone bits or negotiates down to the real price. And the first one who is asking for $400 has the audacity to also mentions she likes gifts?
WoodFordR69
11-15-20, 09:43
I was considering pulling the trigger on 'Carmen'. According to some of you, she has some past issues with substance abuse, and she has bad teeth. But she's not old enough to be a grandmother, she doesn't look rough as hell, and she's not heavier than my 175 lbs. All hard to come by in the current market:
https://tryst.link/escort/carmen-482
I checked back at her ad today, and she's basically increased her price by $100. (To $400 incall, or $380 outcall).
This girl is about $100 overpriced.
So is Ryan, who used to work for Steve:
https://tryst.link/escort/ryannxoxo
And then there's this girl, who is $200 overpriced at $500:
https://tryst.link/escort/elizabethmarie4299
I don't know about the rest of you, but I may just hold on to my money for a while and wait for things to improve. I'm not interested in seeing the nasty girls who are old and overweight, but I'm not willing to pay $400 to $500 for a merely decent girl, either.I've stopped trying to see anyone other than an occasional visit with one of Steve's girls. They are among the better looking girls available & not at the crazy Tryst prices. The best part is there is never any of the ghosting crap like I've seen you guys report with so many of the independents.
Katmandu6999
11-15-20, 14:11
I was considering pulling the trigger on 'Carmen'. According to some of you, she has some past issues with substance abuse, and she has bad teeth. But she's not old enough to be a grandmother, she doesn't look rough as hell, and she's not heavier than my 175 lbs. All hard to come by in the current market:
https://tryst.link/escort/carmen-482
I checked back at her ad today, and she's basically increased her price by $100. (To $400 incall, or $380 outcall).
This girl is about $100 overpriced.
So is Ryan, who used to work for Steve:
https://tryst.link/escort/ryannxoxo
And then there's this girl, who is $200 overpriced at $500:
https://tryst.link/escort/elizabethmarie4299
I don't know about the rest of you, but I may just hold on to my money for a while and wait for things to improve. I'm not interested in seeing the nasty girls who are old and overweight, but I'm not willing to pay $400 to $500 for a merely decent girl, either.
How many of you are simply holding on to cash right now, vs seeing old / overweight providers, or overpaying for ones that are moderately young / thin / attractive?I have reduced my hobby spending by 100%. Mainly because of Covid but if you eliminate covid the only lady I would see is Sara TT. At 250 she is right on the mark. And maybe taylor nikole but at 250 is she worth the same as Sara. I think not.
The rest of these dregs at 400/500 are garbage. I would drive to Toronto and get a duo with 2 models for 400-500 $US. Somebody is paying these prices or the ladies wouldn't spend the money on the ads or they can be bargained down easily. But bottom line is the most Ill pay is 300 and she better be damn good.
I was considering pulling the trigger on 'Carmen'. According to some of you, she has some past issues with substance abuse, and she has bad teeth. But she's not old enough to be a grandmother, she doesn't look rough as hell, and she's not heavier than my 175 lbs. All hard to come by in the current market:
https://tryst.link/escort/carmen-482
I checked back at her ad today, and she's basically increased her price by $100. (To $400 incall, or $380 outcall).
This girl is about $100 overpriced.
So is Ryan, who used to work for Steve:
https://tryst.link/escort/ryannxoxo
And then there's this girl, who is $200 overpriced at $500:
https://tryst.link/escort/elizabethmarie4299
I don't know about the rest of you, but I may just hold on to my money for a while and wait for things to improve. I'm not interested in seeing the nasty girls who are old and overweight, but I'm not willing to pay $400 to $500 for a merely decent girl, either.
How many of you are simply holding on to cash right now, vs seeing old / overweight providers, or overpaying for ones that are moderately young / thin / attractive?Carmen doesn't have "past" issues she has current issues no matter what she says. Other major issues too. I'd be careful. Not trying to knock her just be. Careful.
Maybe it's Covid, or the fact that $ and description (pictures) and reviews don't seem to add up anymore. If I'm spending $2-300 I demand a great time, on-time. Only 1 person at the moment gets that (you all know who that is).
Until then, I'm saving for vacation.
I was considering pulling the trigger on 'Carmen'. According to some of you, she has some past issues with substance abuse, and she has bad teeth. But she's not old enough to be a grandmother, she doesn't look rough as hell, and she's not heavier than my 175 lbs. All hard to come by in the current market:
https://tryst.link/escort/carmen-482
I checked back at her ad today, and she's basically increased her price by $100. (To $400 incall, or $380 outcall).
This girl is about $100 overpriced.
So is Ryan, who used to work for Steve:
https://tryst.link/escort/ryannxoxo
And then there's this girl, who is $200 overpriced at $500:
https://tryst.link/escort/elizabethmarie4299
I don't know about the rest of you, but I may just hold on to my money for a while and wait for things to improve. I'm not interested in seeing the nasty girls who are old and overweight, but I'm not willing to pay $400 to $500 for a merely decent girl, either.
How many of you are simply holding on to cash right now, vs seeing old / overweight providers, or overpaying for ones that are moderately young / thin / attractive?
WanderingAbout
11-15-20, 22:41
If you are a member of a certain not to be named private agency (not CG) then you can see an absolutely gorgeous model quality eastern European girl who for a little extra will do everything you can imagine for what Carmen is asking. Carmen will take 3 or less if you bargain. She isn't that busy. No one on Tryst in Cincinnati is worth their ask. YMMV.
I was considering pulling the trigger on 'Carmen'. According to some of you, she has some past issues with substance abuse, and she has bad teeth. But she's not old enough to be a grandmother, she doesn't look rough as hell, and she's not heavier than my 175 lbs. All hard to come by in the current market: https://tryst.link/escort/carmen-482 I checked back at her ad today, and she's basically increased her price by $100. (To $400 incall, or $380 outcall). This girl is about $100 overpriced.
MarblesKyle
11-16-20, 10:31
I have reduced my hobby spending by 100%. Mainly because of Covid but if you eliminate covid the only lady I would see is Sara TT. At 250 she is right on the mark. And maybe taylor nikole but at 250 is she worth the same as Sara. I think not.
The rest of these dregs at 400/500 are garbage. I would drive to Toronto and get a duo with 2 models for 400-500 $US. Somebody is paying these prices or the ladies wouldn't spend the money on the ads or they can be bargained down easily. But bottom line is the most Ill pay is 300 and she better be damn good.Is she UTR? I feel like I remember trying to look her up a year or so ago and can't remember if I made contact or not but I know I haven't seen her. I'd be interested if she's taking new clients. With COVID and a lot of sites shit down, I don't even know where to look.
If a senior could PM me contact info or a link I would really appreciate it.
If you are a member of a certain not to be named private agency (not CG) then you can see an absolutely gorgeous model quality eastern European girl who for a little extra will do everything you can imagine for what Carmen is asking. Carmen will take 3 or less if you bargain. She isn't that busy. No one on Tryst in Cincinnati is worth their ask. YMMV.Carmen is a train wreck anyway. Has serious issues. Ones you don't want to deal with believe me.
Is she UTR? I feel like I remember trying to look her up a year or so ago and can't remember if I made contact or not but I know I haven't seen her. I'd be interested if she's taking new clients. With COVID and a lot of sites shit down, I don't even know where to look.
If a senior could PM me contact info or a link I would really appreciate it.You can find her only on P411. Be sure to have your (very) solid references in order. Her screening is legendary.
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