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Permanent Wood
06-07-10, 14:50
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Permanent Wood
06-07-10, 14:57
Order status from the 4RX.com website:


Order Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010

Shipping Type: Registered Air Mail

Shipping Date: Friday, May 21, 2010

ETA: Wednesday, June 16, 2010

Order Status: Order on it's way

Shipping status using the tracking number supplied by 4RX.com on the USPS.com website:


Detailed Results:

- Arrival at Unit, June 07, 2010
- Inbound International Arrival, May 29, 2010, ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)
- Origin Post is Preparing Shipment

4RX.com only accepts VISA credit or debit cards, and requires registering with their site using your name, address, phone number (I used my cell phone number) and an email address. I believe they ship out of India. The package requires a signature upon delivery. No prescription required.

Email correspondence was prompt, supplying me with tracking info to be used on the United States Postal Service website (USPS.com).

To get the 10% off for USAsexGuide members, you enter "USAsexGuide" in the open field for promotional codes upon filling out your order.

http://www.4rx.com/index.html

Obitrice
06-10-10, 22:55
Thanks for starting this thread. Please keep us updated on what you think of the products.

Permanent Wood
06-11-10, 19:58
I ordered the Sildenafil Citrate (Generic Viagra) http://www.4rx.com/online-pharmacy/categories/sexual-health/generic-viagra.html and after using the product, I can now confirm, it is what it says it is, their product is the real thing.

I used 1/4 of a 100mg and had wood for 1 1/2 hours, an hour break, then wood again for an hour. The difference I noticed between with or without Sildenafil Citrate (Generic Viagra), is the ease at which I was able to stay hard once erect, it's like your dick has been pumped up and capped off, with absolutely no leak-downs.

Obitrice
06-12-10, 09:32
Very cool. Have you ordered from other companies before? If so, how does it compare?

Permanent Wood
06-12-10, 13:02
Very cool. Have you ordered from other companies before? If so, how does it compare?Nope, but I registered at a different online pharmacy once, I don't recall which one, but never ordered anything, only to be spammed with about 10-30 emails a day. After registering with 4RX.com, using a "disposable" email address, I've only gotten about 7 total spam emails so far. Despite the low spam email numbers, I would still recommend using a disposable email address just in case spam may become a problem.

Brahmabull
06-12-10, 13:30
Very cool. Have you ordered from other companies before? If so, how does it compare?


I have ordered from ADC, the prices are lower then 4RX and the shipping time faster (both comming from India), I received my order in less then 2 weeks where as by the reports below, 4RX took almost 4 wks according to this thread.

The orders at 4RX do not offer any "free or bonus" pills and the min. order is 40 tabs at 75.00.

Both ADC and Securetabs have smaller min. orders all with free/bonus pills.
Securetabs is slightly higher for a comparable order, but ADC is significantly lower.

ADC has the double pill offer (what ever number you order is doubled free) so 20 + 20free of generic V will be 24.00 plus shipping (which is not free, but even so does not come close to 75.00).

Since Permanent Wood has ordered from 4RX I ask him this, 4RX CLAIMS they will match prices, so did they match ADC price for 40 tabs for you with free shipping? Can you inquire with them now you are a customer?

If not they do not seem to be a good value for the cost and delay in receiving the prodcut.

Did you know about ADC? If so what was the deciding factor to go with 4RX over the cheaper ADC?

Permanent Wood
06-12-10, 16:41
I have ordered from ADC, the prices are lower then 4RX and the shipping time faster (both comming from India), I received my order in less then 2 weeks where as by the reports below, 4RX took almost 4 wks according to this thread.I recieved my order 21 days from the day I placed the order, 3 weeks exactly.


The orders at 4RX do not offer any "free or bonus" pills and the min. order is 40 tabs at 75.00.Upon placing my order, I inadvertently forgot to enter the promotional code for USAsexGuide members. Within a day of placing the order and having already paid, I contacted 4RX.com through email on their website, checking "Urgent" and explained my lack of entering the promotional code and that since I am a USAsexGuide member, if they could apply the discount in retrospect. They responded back suggesting they could add 20 more tablets to the order, I accepted and thanked them. So, in that they weren't really "Bonus" tablets, they were in place of the 10% off deal, maintaining a promotional aspect to the order. I ended up with a hundred 100mg tablets for 139 bucks, plus a dollar and change for the transaction. That comes to $1.40 per 100mg tablet.



Since Permanent Wood has ordered from 4RX I ask him this, 4RX CLAIMS they will match prices, so did they match ADC price for 40 tabs for you with free shipping? Can you inquire with them now you are a customer?As far as 4RX.com's "Price Match Guarantee" I checked, and the info is on their website at this link: http://www.4rx.com/price-match/index.php
I wasn't able to copy and paste from their website, or I would have quoted them. Here's part of it: "Any request to match a price should be sent before placing the order. Any request sent after placing the order will be disregarded," so for me it's too late to try.



Did you know about ADC? If so what was the deciding factor to go with 4RX over the cheaper ADC?I knew there were other online pharmacies since I read these forums, although most of my reading was to research the drug itself, not where to get the best buy. I did do some price comparison though, and thought anything under 2 bucks per 100mg tablet was not too bad, I see others have paid more, some a lot more. The other deciding factor was that 4RX.com is one of the forum's sponsors, so it seemed the natural choice.

Brahmabull
06-12-10, 20:24
I recieved my order 21 days from the day I placed the order, 3 weeks exactly.

Upon placing my order, I inadvertently forgot to enter the promotional code for USAsexGuide members. Within a day of placing the order and having already paid, I contacted 4RX.com through email on their website, checking "Urgent" and explained my lack of entering the promotional code and that since I am a USAsexGuide member, if they could apply the discount in retrospect. They responded back suggesting they could add 20 more tablets to the order, I accepted and thanked them. So, in that they weren't really "Bonus" tablets, they were in place of the 10% off deal, maintaining a promotional aspect to the order. I ended up with a hundred 100mg tablets for 139 bucks, plus a dollar and change for the transaction. That comes to $1.40 per 100mg tablet.


As far as 4RX.com's "Price Match Guarantee" I checked, and the info is on their website at this link: http://www.4rx.com/price-match/index.php
I wasn't able to copy and paste from their website, or I would have quoted them. Here's part of it: "Any request to match a price should be sent before placing the order. Any request sent after placing the order will be disregarded," so for me it's too late to try.


I knew there were other online pharmacies since I read these forums, although most of my reading was to research the drug itself, not where to get the best buy. I did do some price comparison though, and thought anything under 2 bucks per 100mg tablet was not too bad, I see others have paid more, some a lot more. The other deciding factor was that 4RX.com is one of the forum's sponsors, so it seemed the natural choice.


Thanks for answering the questions I will ask 4rx to price match ADC and see what happens. If they match, I will place an order. Thanks again.

Randall
06-16-10, 09:43
Does 4rx ship cialis to the U.S.?

I know ADC doesn't do this anymore.

Thanks

Brahmabull
06-16-10, 17:25
Does 4rx ship cialis to the U.S.?

I know ADC doesn't do this anymore.

Thanks


ADC does sell it, I have received an order of Taf, just a few weeks ago.

The trick is you need to send them an email in response to the order confirmation or email you receive stating it was on hold, and state you do not intend to sell or consume this product anywhere in the USA.

Once you send them the disclaimer they will ship the order.

Permanent Wood
06-17-10, 18:23
Upon ordering, I upgraded my order from 80 tablets to 100 tablets (I forgot this part before). Then, after 4RX.com added 20 more tablets to compensate for my omission of the promo code for 10% off, I was up to 120/100mg tablets, not 100 as previously stated. So dividing 140 dollars by 120 tablets, comes out to $1.16 apiece.

Also, it looks like a fresh batch, with date of manufacture stamped as April 2010, and date of expiration stamped as March of 2013.

Subzero2
06-17-10, 19:47
Upon ordering, I upgraded my order from 80 tablets to 100 tablets (I forgot this part before). Then, after 4RX.com added 20 more tablets to compensate for my omission of the promo code for 10% off, I was up to 120/100mg tablets, not 100 as previously stated. So dividing 140 dollars by 120 tablets, comes out to $1.16 apiece.

Also, it looks like a fresh batch, with date of manufacture stamped as April 2010, and date of expiration stamped as March of 2013.

Try supersavermeds. They always have specials.

Scott17
07-26-10, 22:47
Is there any way to get them without a signature. I don't really want my wife to know I am getting them since I wouldn't be using them with her. PO box maybe and sign when you pick it up? UPS and pick it up at a nearby UPS store?

Scott

Brahmabull
07-27-10, 08:56
Is there any way to get them without a signature. I don't really want my wife to know I am getting them since I wouldn't be using them with her. PO box maybe and sign when you pick it up? UPS and pick it up at a nearby UPS store?

Scott

I do not know if they ship to PO boxes. You will have to sign for it, no matter where you order online. They can not have customers claiming they NEVER received orders all the time. I do not believe they use UPS, they ship from India or somewhere and when it hits the USA, the postal service brings it the rest of the way.

If you are not home, they will leave one of those yellow slips in your mailbox telling you that you have to pick up the package at the post office the following day, and you must bring the slip and sign for the package.

If they do PO boxes it is an inexpensive way for you work around your issue. But you will need to check it often I believe if you do not pick up the package with in a couple days they may return it.

Kraven Morehed
08-04-10, 12:16
Does anyone if it is really 100 mg or less mg?

Brahmabull
08-04-10, 15:11
Does anyone if it is really 100 mg or less mg?

Really 100 mg. I cut them in half.

Toys1971
08-04-10, 15:23
Is there any way to get them without a signature. I don't really want my wife to know I am getting them since I wouldn't be using them with her. PO box maybe and sign when you pick it up? UPS and pick it up at a nearby UPS store?

ScottI order viagra through Kwikmed.com and they ship to fedex locations if you don't want to have it shipped to your home address. Fedex will hold it for a while (couple of days) and you have to go sign for it. Not every state allows pharmaceutials to be shipped in (LA does not), so I have to drive over to MS to pickup mine.

Permanent Wood
08-04-10, 18:50
Does anyone know if they are really 100 mg or less than 100 mg?

They are 100 mg.

I too can attest they are indeed 100 mg of generic Viagra. I split them in half, then split the halves in half. 1/4 tablet gives me a 16+ hour window of potency.

The wood lasts an hour easily each time, and getting it back 2 or 3x is the norm.

I take it several hours after having eaten a healthy meal, followed only by drinking water. 10 minutes after taking the generic V, I get an ever so slight face flushing, almost unnoticeable be it not for the fact I'm expecting it. Anytime after 20 minutes, the engines are awaiting being started and revved up.

Of course, depending on your body chemistry, your results may vary.

Brahmabull
08-04-10, 20:10
They are 100 mg.

I too can attest they are indeed 100 mg of generic Viagra. I split them in half, then split the halves in half. 1/4 tablet gives me a 16+ hour window of potency.

The wood lasts an hour easily each time, and getting it back 2 or 3x is the norm.

I take it several hours after having eaten a healthy meal, followed only by drinking water. 10 minutes after taking the generic V, I get an ever so slight face flushing, almost unnoticeable be it not for the fact I'm expecting it. Anytime after 20 minutes, the engines are awaiting being started and revved up.

Of course, depending on your body chemistry, your results may vary.

Good to know you still see positive effects with a 1/4 tab. I will try this next time as the occassional V hangover still sets in from the 1/2 tab. I had been taking with asprin to nullify that.

Thanks for the tip.

Permanent Wood
08-04-10, 21:57
Good to know you still see positive effects with a 1/4 tab. I will try this next time as the occassional V hangover still sets in from the 1/2 tab. I had been taking with asprin to nullify that.

Thanks for the tip.

What do you mean by a "V hangover?" Subsequent unwanted wood? Headache?

The only undesirable after effect I got, was 4 hours after taking the generic V, (after having had an hour of wood and 1 pop) and right after having had a sandwich to eat (this was 4 hours after the initial consumption of the generic V), I got a 3-4 minute light-headed feeling. It may, or it may not have had anything to do with the generic V since it was hot out and I had perspired heavily in this time with little to drink. I'd say it's key to keep well hydrated.

Brahmabull
08-05-10, 09:38
What do you mean by a "V hangover?" Subsequent unwanted wood? Headache?

The only undesirable after effect I got, was 4 hours after taking the generic V, (after having had an hour of wood and 1 pop) and right after having had a sandwich to eat (this was 4 hours after the initial consumption of the generic V), I got a 3-4 minute light-headed feeling. It may, or it may not have had anything to do with the generic V since it was hot out and I had perspired heavily in this time with little to drink. I'd say it's key to keep well hydrated.


Ah, I get a slight (not bad) headache and right side nasal pressure, like a mini sinus headache.

If I take any type of asprin/tylenol etc, I have no problem with it. It does not happen every time, just seems to happen occassionally. Probably has to do with my diet but I am not sure.

Member #2041
08-15-10, 02:11
I wanted to put in a good word for the folks at 4RX.com, who is a sponsor of this website.

About a month ago, I put an order in for generic Viagra from them. I was planning on ordering 40 100mg tablets for $75, and when I placed my order, they offered me a deal of getting 60 tablets for $99, which dropped the per tablet cost from $1.875 to $1.65 per tablet, so I took advantage of the special offer.

My pills arrived just under 2 weeks later in a plain envelope, but with a customs declaration calling them sample meds (13 days after I placed the order on a Friday, got the pills on a Thursday). I had to sign for them, as they were sent by registered airmail.

The pills are packed in foil blister packs of 10 pills each, with directions in English on the back - the pills were manufactured in India by Genpharma, and are labeled ABRA 100 Sildenafil Citrate. Mfr date in May 2010, exp. date April 2013.

I've used a couple of the pills (the pills are 100 mg, I cut them in half and I get at least a half day's effect from the half pills), so they certainly seem to be the genuine article. I might also try 1/4 pill, as I suspect that I'll get at least 2 hours effect from the quarter pills as well, which would allow me to take more than 1/4 pill in a given day if I were to have multiple encounters that day, rather than hope that the half-pill dose lasts me long enough to still hold me over for multiple later encounters on the same day.

I don't seem to get any unpleasant side effects from a half pill dosage, but I haven't yet taken a half pill on each of 2 successive days, so I can't say if that would give me any of the unpleasant side effects that Viagra is known for, if I were to take a 2nd half pill before the first one is completely gone from my system.

Also, because they charged me in U.S. dollars, rather than a foreign currency converted to U.S. dollars, my Credit Card company didn't charge me 2% currency conversion fee, but they did charge me a 1% foreign transaction fee. They only accept Visa, and unfortunately, my Capital One card, which doesn't charge me any foreign transaction or currency conversion fees, is a MasterCard, so I couldn't use it. So, expect your CC company to hit you with a foreign transaction fee of something like 1%, unless you have a Capital One Visa card. So, at the end of the day, the 60 pills cost me about $1.67 for each 100 mg pill, all in. And the pills work, and the shipping was fast. All in all, a successful transaction.

The last time I tried to order similar, from another company that I can't even remember the name of, my pills never arrived, and their support number kept giving me different stall tactics about the pills being in transit. 5 weeks after, I ended up having to void that transaction with my CC company, which, fortunately, I was able to do with no problems. So I was quite pleased not to have to go through any of that nonsense with 4RX.com, and that's why I'm putting the good word in for them here. Good price, good product, and good shipping. What more could you want?

No doubt I'll be a return customer for them when I fuck my way through these sixty 100mg tablets.

BTW, their website states that they are located in the Caribbean, on the Island of St. Kitts.

Brahmabull
08-15-10, 10:35
I've used a couple of the pills (the pills are 100 mg, I cut them in half and I get at least a half day's effect from the half pills), so they certainly seem to be the genuine article. I might also try 1/4 pill, as I suspect that I'll get at least 2 hours effect from the quarter pills as well, which would allow me to take more than 1/4 pill in a given day if I were to have multiple encounters that day, rather than hope that the half-pill dose lasts me long enough to still hold me over for multiple later encounters on the same day.


I will share with you a little talked about fact from the original maker of Viagra, they state the pills are not manufactured to be cut in half(which is why the make and sell 50mg and 100mg tabs).

I do it and they work fine. The reason they say this is that they can not guarantee the medicine is equally distributed in the tablet so, you will not get 50% dose from 1/2 a pill.

Cutting them in to 1/4 may be different, It is probably true that you will not get even 1/4 of the medication if you do so.

Remember these are made in India so we do not know how the manufacturing process distributes the medication, and could be why some guys report 1/2 pills do nothing for them.

Take care with cutting the pills, often times the online pharm. will sell a lower dosage for a cheaper price if you are getting results from the 1/2 tabs, maybe order the 50mg and order more.

Member #2041
08-15-10, 11:30
I will share with you a little talked about fact from the original maker of Viagra, they state the pills are not manufactured to be cut in half(which is why the make and sell 50mg and 100mg tabs).

I do it and they work fine. The reason they say this is that they can not guarantee the medicine is equally distributed in the tablet so, you will not get 50% dose from 1/2 a pill.

Cutting them in to 1/4 may be different, It is probably true that you will not get even 1/4 of the medication if you do so.

Remember these are made in India so we do not know how the manufacturing process distributes the medication, and could be why some guys report 1/2 pills do nothing for them.

Take care with cutting the pills, often times the online pharm. will sell a lower dosage for a cheaper price if you are getting results from the 1/2 tabs, maybe order the 50mg and order more.
Yes they say that, but my experience is that it's completely self-serving. They don't want you to cut the pills in half because they make less money when you do. They make different doses, because they want to make the most money they can, and they don't want people cutting into their profits.

I've cut pills for years, not just Viagra, but all sorts of pills. It works fine. I've talked to several doctors about it, and they all say it works fine - they actually recommend it for saving money on my prescriptions. It's really not a big deal if you get 45% of the med in one piece, and 55% in another. And that's really the most variation you will ever see if the different pieces are actually around the same size. The fact is, the medicine IS quite evenly distributed inside the pills. If it wasn't, then their manufacturing process could never insure that the dosage was consistent from pill to pill. In my experience, MUCH more variation results from how evenly your pill cutter cuts the pills. The pill makers have a huge financial reason for discouraging people from cutting pills. But it works fine, and it's silly to worry about it.

The reason some folks report getting nothing from half pills, is because they have fake pills, or the medicine simply doesn't work for them in that dosage. Not because of slight variation in the dosage. Yes, the pills are made in India, but MOST pills are made in India, by companies who have well established manufacturing processes, and who are approved suppliers by the FDA. Where do you think most AMERICAN drug companies make their pills? They generally get them made under license from these same companies in India.

Brahmabull
08-15-10, 19:45
Yes they say that, but my experience is that it's completely self-serving. They don't want you to cut the pills in half because they make less money when you do. They make different doses, because they want to make the most money they can, and they don't want people cutting into their profits.

I've cut pills for years, not just Viagra, but all sorts of pills. It works fine. I've talked to several doctors about it, and they all say it works fine - they actually recommend it for saving money on my prescriptions. It's really not a big deal if you get 45% of the med in one piece, and 55% in another. And that's really the most variation you will ever see if the different pieces are actually around the same size. The fact is, the medicine IS quite evenly distributed inside the pills. If it wasn't, then their manufacturing process could never insure that the dosage was consistent from pill to pill. In my experience, MUCH more variation results from how evenly your pill cutter cuts the pills. The pill makers have a huge financial reason for discouraging people from cutting pills. But it works fine, and it's silly to worry about it.

The reason some folks report getting nothing from half pills, is because they have fake pills, or the medicine simply doesn't work for them in that dosage. Not because of slight variation in the dosage. Yes, the pills are made in India, but MOST pills are made in India, by companies who have well established manufacturing processes, and who are approved suppliers by the FDA. Where do you think most AMERICAN drug companies make their pills? They generally get them made under license from these same companies in India.


Im well versed in pharmacuticals, I work for major HC provider and previously for one of the largest chain pharmacies in the US.

Pfizer has 78 plants internationally, but none of their solid-dosage network is in India. They are actively and successfully suing plants in India and other countries for patent infringement.

Most american drugs come from a FEW companies. Pfizer being the largest.
Followed by Merck, Bayer, Eli Lilly(father worked here until he passed), and Bristol-Myers Squibb.
The majority of these US companies do NOT outsource manufacturing to countries (like India) that will not honor their patents.

They make lower dosages for people who do not need higher dosages to be effective. There is very little price difference in US pharmacies in dosages.

I already stated I cut the pills in half without any issues so far. But there is no guarantee that the medication is evenly distributed in all the pills the same, there can be issues in the mixing and manufacturing that places most or all of the dosage to 1 side or the other. It may be rare but it happens.

You see so many online pharmacies using generics from India because they do not respect the patents, and can under cut prices from the original manufacturer. This gives the online pharmacy the edge in pricing and as such they can do volume business.

That being said I use a few online pharmacies that use good supply sources in India, but there are many bad ones. Some that offer low(er)/no dosage counterfit products.

I see from your other post you are an 4RX.com customer, I will point out in case you did not know alldaychemist is cheaper. You can get 60pills + 60 free (120 total) for 70.00, or 30pills + 30 free (60 total) for 36.00, and they accept Visa/MC/Amex/DC.

Member #2041
08-15-10, 19:56
They make lower dosages for people who do not need higher dosages to be effective. There is very little price difference in US pharmacies in dosages.

You're definitely wrong about the price differences in lower dosages. In general, with drugs that sell in different dosages, each time you halve the dosage, the price only drops 20-30%. That's a huge source of profit for them, and the lower dosages are more lucrative than the maximum dosages on a per unit of active ingredient basis. Of course they don't want you to cut the pills in half to lose those excess profits.

If it were such a risk, why is it that every physician I've ever spoken to about it has no problem at all with cutting pills in half to save on prescription meds?

The only GENUINE difference one may see from cutting pills in half is that the medicine can disperse into the bloodstream faster from cut pills, because the exterior coating of the pill is broken, and one of the functions of that coating, is to cause the active ingredients to time-release into the stomach, rather than to dissolve all at once.

As for trying 4RX, I was much more concerned with reliability than absolute cost, and I had heard that they were a reliable vendor. I know that there were others out there who may have been slightly cheaper - but my main issue was knowing I would get my stuff delivered. Also, I looked on the alldaychemist website, and they stated that prescriptions are needed to order. Also, alldaychemist's price savings is not nearly as great on small orders when one considers that they charge $25 for shipping, and 4RX ships for free

Brahmabull
08-16-10, 08:24
You're definitely wrong about the price differences in lower dosages. In general, with drugs that sell in different dosages, each time you halve the dosage, the price only drops 20-30%. That's a huge source of profit for them, and the lower dosages are more lucrative than the maximum dosages on a per unit of active ingredient basis. Of course they don't want you to cut the pills in half to lose those excess profits.

If it were such a risk, why is it that every physician I've ever spoken to about it has no problem at all with cutting pills in half to save on prescription meds?
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I said there was very little price differene in the various dosages, you said I am wrong but went on to agree with the price only dropping 20-30%.

You should NOT be asking the doctor, you should be asking your pharmacist about cutting the pills the pharmacist knows which ones are best to cut.
Doctors know medicine as far has how to medicate an illness, they know very little if anything about how they are manufactured.
While my doctor knows what to prescribe me for high BP and high chol. he could not tell which pills were which. I guarentee a pharmacist wouldn't have that problem.

I already told you I cut mine in half and have no issues, you seem to think I am arguing against it. I am not, I am just warning people that while you can cut a pill in 1/2 and be ok usually I wouldn't recommend cutting in 1/4 and believing you will get 25mg of medication.

Member #2041
08-16-10, 11:23
Only a 20-30% price drop for half the medicine is VERY little price difference, relative to the dosage difference. If the price differential was 50%, for a half dosage, you would be correct, but it never is, it's always less. And in fact, this provides all the incentive that a drug company needs to discourage you from cutting the pills, because doing so takes profits away from them. That's what we were talking about here. Oh, and my pharmacist also told me there was no problem cutting pills - and they proceeded to sell me a pill cutter to do it.

And I never said you would get exactly 25mg of medicine in a quarter of a 100mg pill. I said it might vary SLIGHTLY. You might get 23mg or 27mg, but that sort of a variation is too small to matter very much.

And actually, Doctors DO take courses in pharmacology, and they are also constantly being given orientations and sales pitches by drug companies that explain the benefits and safety of their drugs, as well as how consistent their manufacturing processes are. Of course, these presentations could be equally reliable as their recommendations not to cut pills - because both are created with the intention of boosting their sales and their profits.


I said there was very little price differene in the various dosages, you said I am wrong but went on to agree with the price only dropping 20-30%.

You should NOT be asking the doctor, you should be asking your pharmacist about cutting the pills the pharmacist knows which ones are best to cut.
Doctors know medicine as far has how to medicate an illness, they know very little if anything about how they are manufactured.
While my doctor knows what to prescribe me for high BP and high chol. he could not tell which pills were which. I guarentee a pharmacist wouldn't have that problem.

I already told you I cut mine in half and have no issues, you seem to think I am arguing against it. I am not, I am just warning people that while you can cut a pill in 1/2 and be ok usually I wouldn't recommend cutting in 1/4 and believing you will get 25mg of medication.

Brahmabull
08-16-10, 15:34
Only a 20-30% price drop for half the medicine is VERY little price difference, relative to the dosage difference. If the price differential was 50%, for a half dosage, you would be correct, but it never is, it's always less..


You need to re-read what I posted even though I restated it in my previous reply.

THERE IS VERY LITTLE PRICE DIFFERENCE IN THE DOSAGES. I never said there was a large price difference, I never attempted to make that point. Yet you seem hell bent in trying to convince me of that which I already know and PREVIOUSLY stated.

You continue to reply as if we are having a difference of opinion. I CUT MY PILLS IN HALF TOO. I was saying that cutting them into 1/4 would probably yeild pieces without any medication. Something that you can NOT prove to be true or false 100% of the time, it was just a warning.

If you truly can not understand that you are trying to "sell" me on an idea, I already long before conversing with you, have accepted as my own standard practice, I do not know what more I can do to explain it.

Member #2041
08-16-10, 18:48
If you truly can not understand that you are trying to "sell" me on an idea, I already long before conversing with you, have accepted as my own standard practice, I do not know what more I can do to explain it.
I'm not trying to sell YOU on anything. And frankly, I'd be perfectly happy if you DIDN'T do a damn thing to try to "explain it" - because frankly, you have no credibility with me and I could care less what you have to say on the subject.

You are to one who first felt the need to "correct" my posts, when all I did was come on here and point out that I had bought some pills from 4RX.com. and I was a satisfied customer. You basically came on like you were some sort of expert in the field - when it's obvious you don't have any sort of specialized knowledge here at all, despite what you may think. The difference is, I never claimed I was some sort of expert here - just someone giving a recommendation to a vendor after a successful transaction, in a marketplace that's fraught with fraud. Now go take your arguments to someone who cares what you have to say. I surely don't. Fortunately, I see that this forum has an ignore list. You're on mine now. And if my posts bother you so much, maybe you could do us both a favor and put me on yours as well.

Permanent Wood
08-27-10, 14:20
I've been getting a consistent 16-17 hour window of potency with 1/4 of a 100mg generic V that I ordered from 4RX.com.

Brahmabull
08-27-10, 19:49
put me on yours as well.

Done.

Nothing I have seen from you has value.

Naughty
10-22-10, 14:54
I don't use anything, but a buddy (60 yo) was having problems. Dr. Samples of Viagra failed, Levitra worked well, but he can't afford US or Canadian prices along with his other medicines.

He isn't in the hobby and rarely uses a computer at all. I told him about 4RX. He took a leap of faith and ordered some with a pre-paid Visa.

Got an email the same day saying they would ship as soon as the card cleared and with an expected delivery date.

Shipment arrived in his mailbox on the predicted day, absolutely no hassles at all. Stuff works just as well as the Dr. Samples and he and his wife are both thrilled.

4RX gets a thumbs up.

Harley32
11-15-10, 17:10
I looked up a coupon code for 4rx and found one that worked. 15PERCENTOFF will give you 15% your order. Use all caps.

Lgkok
09-24-11, 21:07
Anyone know if signature is actually required for delivery? PM Any info on this company

Permanent Wood
10-08-11, 12:16
Anyone know if signature is actually required for delivery? PM Any info on this companySignature is required upon delivery. I personally don't know of ANY company that doesn't require a signature, I think they ALL do.

Member #2041
10-08-11, 12:47
As I said, I have been a satisfied customer of their Generic V, which they ship quickly, I believe from an address in Mexico. Well during the course of some bareback mongering, I picked up a urinary tract infection. I decided to buy some Cipro and some Zithromax to take care of it. Actually, I picked up some in Tijuana to clear the stuff up right away, but I thought it would be good to have some more around if this happened again. I ordered some from 4RX. For this stuff, unlike the V, C and L, they ship this stuff from thier facility in India, not Mexico, so it takes longer. For some reason, they took nearly 2 weeks to bill my Credit Card for the transaction. But after 4 weeks had gone by, nothing had arrived, and the order information showed an order date, but no shipping date. After talking with their customer chat line, they told me that they had gone out of stock, and that they couldn't confirm that the order had yet been shipped to me. I asked them for a refund on the drugs, since it had been over a month and I had taken care of my infection with stuff I had gotten in Tijuana. Being a legitimate vendor, they actually did process my refund in a timely manner and my Credit Card was credited back with the proper amount. But then, a week later, I got a notice of a registered letter from India. It was the drugs I had ordered, postmarked the same day tjhat my CC had initially been charged. So, because their record keeping was fucked up, and they are an honest vendor who did credit me back my purchase when they could not find evidence that they had shipped the drugs to me, I actually got the drugs, a month late, but for free.

Fluke
10-12-11, 23:52
I just tried to order from them the generic V pills.

I got a confirmation number in my email and then a few hours later I called to confirm it all in person. The lady said they can't process or ship credit card orders until the 24th.

I cancelled and will try another route for now.

Fistfirst
11-13-11, 17:36
Does this mean that you can't ship to a renter mailbox?


Signature is required upon delivery. I personally don't know of ANY company that doesn't require a signature, I think they ALL do.

Mickey7
11-14-11, 12:13
Does this mean that you can't ship to a renter mailbox?See my post in the ADC thread. I didn't have any problem with my order being shipped to a PO Box. It even was sent Express Mail and yes I did have to sign for it.

Jayinaz
11-26-11, 12:41
I just placed an order at 4RX. Com for a trail pack (10 ea, Viagra / Cialis) , for only $49. After paying Kwikmed prices, that's more than a bargain if the stuff is good. I used a prepaid Visa, and got my order confirmation immediately. The code 15PERCENTOFF mentioned further down the thread didn't work for me, but like I said, bargain comparatively.

I tried to use mysecuretabs first, but used my own Visa. MST declined the order-apparently my Visa is only good in the US, though it doesn't say so-but they took the money out of my account anyway. I have e-mailed them, asking to have the charges reversed, and hope they follow through. If not, my bank will. After that, I decided to go the prepaid Visa route rather than potentially leave my account vulnerable. Should have done that in the first place.

Jayinaz
12-21-11, 22:27
Posted the below on Nov. 26. My order arrived on 17 Dec at a UPS Store (where I keep a PO Box). I picked it up yesterday. Appears to be good stuff, judging by the way my jeans keep getting tight when I get aroused. Happy with 4RX so far!


I just placed an order at 4RX. Com for a trail pack (10 ea, Viagra / Cialis) , for only $49. After paying Kwikmed prices, that's more than a bargain if the stuff is good. I used a prepaid Visa, and got my order confirmation immediately. The code 15PERCENTOFF mentioned further down the thread didn't work for me, but like I said, bargain comparatively.

I tried to use mysecuretabs first, but used my own Visa. MST declined the order-apparently my Visa is only good in the US, though it doesn't say so-but they took the money out of my account anyway. I have e-mailed them, asking to have the charges reversed, and hope they follow through. If not, my bank will. After that, I decided to go the prepaid Visa route rather than potentially leave my account vulnerable. Should have done that in the first place.

Ycwinva
12-22-11, 22:17
Posted the below on Nov. 26. My order arrived on 17 Dec at a UPS Store (where I keep a PO Box). I picked it up yesterday. Appears to be good stuff, judging by the way my jeans keep getting tight when I get aroused. Happy with 4RX so far!I've been trying to place an order since December 13th.

But, if you click through to try to buy anything it says "Sorry. Our store is temporarily unavailable".

Anyone know what's up?

Jayinaz
12-23-11, 12:38
I've been trying to place an order since December 13th.

But, if you click through to try to buy anything it says "Sorry. Our store is temporarily unavailable".

Anyone know what's up?No, that's very strange. Clearly they're still advertising here, since their banner was over there at screen right when I read your post. Another update from me (to my post below) : Mysecuretabs also shipped my order, even though at first they declined it. It arrived yesterday at the same PO box. Tried it last night. Good results. So now I have 50, split between V and C, for a little more than 1/3 of the price at Kwikmed.

When times are flusher, I still prefer Kwikmed, because it's the real thing and I'd rather support American jobs than Indian intellectual property thieves. Plus they arrive in a couple of days. But when times are tight, like now, there's much to be said for cheap and functional.

Ycwinva
12-23-11, 21:50
No, that's very strange. Clearly they're still advertising here, since their banner was over there at screen right when I read your post. Another update from me (to my post below) : Mysecuretabs also shipped my order, even though at first they declined it. It arrived yesterday at the same PO box. Tried it last night. Good results. So now I have 50, split between V and C, for a little more than 1/3 of the price at Kwikmed.

When times are flusher, I still prefer Kwikmed, because it's the real thing and I'd rather support American jobs than Indian intellectual property thieves. Plus they arrive in a couple of days. But when times are tight, like now, there's much to be said for cheap and functional.I have my answer today.

Oh well.

Dear Customer,

We regret to inform you that after serving so many of you throughout the years. 4RX. Com has stopped operating. Our Customer Support team will remain available to assist past clients and can be reached here:

Jayinaz
12-24-11, 13:48
I have my answer today.

Oh well.

Dear Customer,

We regret to inform you that after serving so many of you throughout the years. 4RX. Com has stopped operating. Our Customer Support team will remain available to assist past clients and can be reached here:Wow! Glad I scored when I did. I guess it's securetabs from now on.

Member #2041
03-09-12, 12:07
Wow! Glad I scored when I did. I guess it's securetabs from now on.They seem to be back in business. They are still advertising and their website lets me put an order in. Although I have not fully processed it and paid for it, I was recognized as an existing customer and my repeat order discount was reflected in my pricing.

Permanent Wood
03-11-12, 12:13
They seem to be back in business. They are still advertising and their website lets me put an order in. Although I have not fully processed it and paid for it, I was recognized as an existing customer and my repeat order discount was reflected in my pricing.How much was the repeat order discount?

I'm still using the stuff from my first order, still all good. Usually I use 1/4 tab, but I have experimented with 1/8 tab and still worked fine.

Member #2041
03-11-12, 13:21
How much was the repeat order discount?

I'm still using the stuff from my first order, still all good. Usually I use 1/4 tab, but I have experimented with 1/8 tab and still worked fine.The repeat order discount is 10% off the published price

Permanent Wood
03-12-12, 10:31
The repeat order discount is 10% off the published priceThanks, nice to know they give an incentive.

BTW, I don't think their website was down for more than a week or two, I have no idea why but glad they are back on.

LouisvilleMale
08-27-12, 16:25
I had made a purchase on here about a year ago and went again today to do the same. It seems that an e0check is theonly available method of payment. I reviewed my previsou payment and I had made that with a credit card, but also based on the reviews below.

THis time I was looking at buying 300 pills at $225 and that including the faster EMS shipping.

When I got to the checkout. I suddenly became hesitant to enter my bank information, Especially after reading this;

http://stevegodin.********.com/2011/04/my-4rxcom-review.html

I also noticed this thread hasn't been updated in awhile.

I understand there is a risk in making a purchase like this but didn't have any issues form my previous one.

1) Has anyone used the echeck with this site recently? Any issues?

2) Is that price decent? (I used a repeat order discount as well as the 15% promo code found in this thread.

Thanks

Member #2041
02-03-13, 01:18
I had the exact same issue today when I attempted to re-order some generic V. If 4Rx won't accept credit card payments anymore, I can no longer recommend them as a vendor.


I had made a purchase on here about a year ago and went again today to do the same. It seems that an e0check is theonly available method of payment. I reviewed my previsou payment and I had made that with a credit card, but also based on the reviews below.

THis time I was looking at buying 300 pills at $225 and that including the faster EMS shipping.

When I got to the checkout. I suddenly became hesitant to enter my bank information, Especially after reading this;

http://stevegodin.********.com/2011/04/my-4rxcom-review.html

I also noticed this thread hasn't been updated in awhile.

I understand there is a risk in making a purchase like this but didn't have any issues form my previous one.

1) Has anyone used the echeck with this site recently? Any issues?

2) Is that price decent? (I used a repeat order discount as well as the 15% promo code found in this thread.

Thanks

Lonelyguy128
02-03-13, 01:53
I had the exact same issue today when I attempted to re-order some generic V. If 4Rx won't accept credit card payments anymore, I can no longer recommend them as a vendor.I had that problem with Secure tabs too, so I ordered from rxcreams. They are still taking credit cards and the service and prices were good.

Bil73
02-04-13, 12:07
Right now rxcreams is the way to go they take moneyorders gift cards and credit cards. They gave me 10 extra for using a moneyorder. Two to three weeks turnaround not bad

Member #2041
02-08-13, 03:32
I had that problem with Secure tabs too, so I ordered from rxcreams. They are still taking credit cards and the service and prices were good.SecureTabs still accepts AMEX cards, and I happen to have three of them. One of my Amex cards declined the transaction, but my 2nd Amex card went through. I'll let folks know when the product arrives

Lonelyguy128
02-08-13, 09:55
SecureTabs still accepts AMEX cards, and I happen to have three of them. One of my Amex cards declined the transaction, but my 2nd Amex card went through. I'll let folks know when the product arrivesThat's okay for anyone with an Amex card. I reported that I bought an Amex gift card and it wouldn't work for the Secure Tabs purchase. So, I basically paid $9 for a worthless card. That's when I gave Rxcreams a try. I did like the sample pack from Secure Tabs where I could get some viagra and some cialis.

Just to clarify, Rxcreams is different than 4RX.com, which is the title of this thread.

Dr Bombay
02-15-13, 10:01
I wanted to try rxcreams, but the payments were to be sent to Colorado, which seems weird since this stuff is illegal without a prescription in this country and any form of payment is allowed. The website seemed a little amateurish to me also. Maybe it's me but.

Maybe someone who has ordered and been satisfied can clear this up for me.

Anyway, my bank gave me spare bank accounts for personal savings which I never used, so I put a few bucks in one for 4rxdot com. The echeck was accepted and I'll let you all know when I get the results and how they worked.

Bil73
02-16-13, 11:00
I wanted to try rxcreams, but the payments were to be sent to Colorado, which seems weird since this stuff is illegal without a prescription in this country and any form of payment is allowed. The website seemed a little amateurish to me also. Maybe it's me but.

Maybe someone who has ordered and been satisfied can clear this up for me.

Anyway, my bank gave me spare bank accounts for personal savings which I never used, so I put a few bucks in one for 4rxdot com. The echeck was accepted and I'll let you all know when I get the results and how they worked.I had good luck with rxcreams like you said it seemed weird to send payment to a po box in colrado but the communication was great they sent me an email with the registered number and in two weeks I got it. I have made another order Ill let you know how that goes. As far as the C not working for the previous poster I don't know about that I ordered V and it worked great

Bil73
02-20-13, 17:16
Just recieved my order from rxcreams 24 v plus they gave me 10 extra for using a moneyorder. It worked fine. I keep my orders small just in case customs decides to "keep" them. There packaging is good marked as a gift witn no tell tell rattle

Dr Bombay
02-28-13, 21:28
My shipment from 4rxdotcom arrived today. Took about 10 days with echeck. I'll report after I use it.

Dr Bombay
04-03-13, 19:30
My shipment from 4rxdotcom arrived today. Took about 10 days with echeck. I'll report after I use it.I've been trying the shipment. It has a strong medicine taste, but the 100s act like 50s. I'm not sure I'd take a double dose. I'm inclined to try Healthy for Men. I've been hearing their radio spots for days. Anybody have a report for them?

Alex255
04-04-13, 07:11
Good day,

My name is Alex, I represent the SecureTabs Management. We specialize on generic mens healthcare products and since 2007 we have served more than 50. 000 customers. Please ask any questions regarding our shop and I will answer them here.

For a start, we are ready to send 5 free orders to members of this community who will make a review of received products in this thread. Please apply to PM!

Lonelyguy128
04-04-13, 10:38
I've been trying the shipment. It has a strong medicine taste, but the 100s act like 50s. I'm not sure I'd take a double dose. I'm inclined to try Healthy for Men. I've been hearing their radio spots for days. Anybody have a report for them?Perhaps I missed it, but what did you order? What are you taking that has the strong medicine taste?

Dr Bombay
04-04-13, 17:52
Perhaps I missed it, but what did you order? What are you taking that has the strong medicine taste?I ordered ABRA-100 from 4rx, Sildenafil Citrate. The tabs are round with a groove down the middle for easy halving. It states manufacturing Feb 2013, expiration Jan 2016. As I said, I think they are the real thing but pretty weak compared to the real thing.

Member #2041
04-05-13, 11:55
I ordered ABRA-100 from 4rx, Sildenafil Citrate. The tabs are round with a groove down the middle for easy halving. It states manufacturing Feb 2013, expiration Jan 2016. As I said, I think they are the real thing but pretty weak compared to the real thing.Sorry to hear that. The Abra 100 tabs that I got from them a couple years ago (I'm down to my last 2) work great. If 4Rx still took credit cards, I'd have re-ordered the same product from them. But as it was, I got the Cipla 100s from SecureTabs. Which also work, but are tougher to cut into 3rds - which is my perfect dose, than the Abra ones are.

LexintonLuther
04-20-14, 11:50
I gave 4 RX a try and it took over 30 days to receive my shipment. I have to admit the ABRA-100 works better for me and without the side effects of V. I didn't think I could fine something that works this well with no side effects (heartburn, stuffy nose). Other than the 30 plus days to receive I do like the product.

Lex.

Blak Casper
04-21-14, 12:12
Anyone order Cialis from these guys? As good as the real ones?

Head First
04-22-14, 20:20
Placed an order for the sampler pack yesterday The price was a fraction of what I pay for Pfizer Viagra and even generic Staxyn. It was ez, all I had to do was click the link right here on USA Sex Guide. I figure if they're good enough for Jackson (our fearless leader) they're good enough for me. And if Jackson makes a few pennies on the deal it just means we'll all be able to enjoy this wonderful FREE site all the longer. Thanks Jackson!!

Head First
05-16-14, 23:18
Order arrived on 5/7 in a very plain manilla envelope. Had to sign for it so heads up on that if you're having it shipped to your home. 10 each of V, see, and L plus 3 free of each for not taking the cash discount. So just over $100 for 39 pills. Tried half a blue last weekend. Worked great. No headache, no stuffy nose, no hot face like with Pfizer V. Got me so hard I was even able to enjoy some back door play which we all know requires extra stiffness. Lasted an hour before I popped. Woke up the next morn with a raging boner, then was still feeling strong that night so I rubbed one out. So far so good. Probably try a see this weekend.

Head First
05-21-14, 22:17
Tried a whole one (20 mg) on Sat around noon. An hour later I'm walking into one of my current AMP's. Wasn't feeling any side effects so I was concerned if I swallowed a dud. But those concerns were quickly answered after 5 minutes of teasing and foreplay. I would say it worked the same as half of the blue one I took the previous weekend. Only mild side effects and no headache. No trouble popping. I was available for duty the rest of the day, all of the next day and even woke up Mon. Morning ready to go. Between the two tho I'd say the blue pill made my dick harder than the see. YMMV.

Head First
06-08-14, 17:01
Tried a whole one. Like the others it had very mild side effects. Got me hard within an hour. Hardness went away after I came but didn't return that night or the next morn. I've retaken the blue pill full strength a couple times with different results than the first time I took it. The hardness wasn't as stiff as before or last as long. Don't know why. May be in the market for a different supplier. YMMV.

RoadWarrior615
06-28-15, 22:01
Is this the new 4 rx website. Sure does seems so.

http://www.4rx.net/

DC248
04-08-16, 20:05
I've been seeing this ad on the forum. Could this be the latest incarnation of 4RX.com?.

https://www.sun4rx.com/mens-health.html

HarryD
04-11-16, 14:47
I've been seeing this ad on the forum. Could this be the latest incarnation of 4RX.com?.

https://www.sun4rx.com/mens-health.htmlI clicked the banner and placed an order. The coupon code took off $1 and did not indicate getting 100% extra pills at no cost. It may be they manually adjust those orders, we will see when the package arrives.