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JungleWarrior
05-24-09, 08:07
I have been reading this forum for a while now, and I just wanted to chime in because I would hope this thread goes back to discussing Massage Parlors as It was intended.

I am an attorney who deals with civil and criminal cases and have worked for the Pinellas County DA's office. The 4th Amendment which guards against against unreasonable searches and seizures, ALSO prohibits Law enforcement officers from using stalking tactics to intimidate people, unless they have probable cause to pull you over, which they don't. It doesn't matter if they see you going into a massage parlor or not. There is nothing they can do about it.

I can't count the many times the DA's office has turned away cases involving this type of scare tactic. Just a FYI for those that are not familiar with this procedure for law enforcement to take down vehicle tags. A law enforcement officer can not look up a vehicles tag without probable cause, even if they follow you for 20 blocks.

Unless the Law Enforcement officer sees something that alerts him to pull you over like "expired tags, broken taillight, driving like a lunatic, or a clear violation of a city ordinance-speeding, illegal u-turn, etc" otherwise they can not touch their computer. Plain and simple.

So the fact this person claims they got a letter from law enforcment, is a fabrication. Does anyone actually think the DA's office is going to waste their time on trying to scare people?

Second issue is, this person claimed it was in their mailbox, than it was taped. So which is it? If it was mailed, it has to have a return address. You can NOT mail a letter out without a return address. Anyone caught doing so is violating 2 federal laws (read the current laws). Plus anyone placing an item inside you mailbox is also violating a state laws and postal laws which can be fined up to 1,000$

§ 1725. Postage unpaid on deposited mail matter

Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits any mailable matter such as statements of accounts, circulars, sale bills, or other like matter, on which no postage has been paid, in any letter box established, approved, or accepted by the Postal Service for the receipt or delivery of mail matter on any mail route with intent to avoid payment of lawful postage thereon, shall for each such offense be fined under this title.

That's not including trespassing charges if caught. Do you really think a law enforcement division wants to be sued for trespassing?

Anyways. I have visited this place before. Yes I pulled in while 2 police cruisers were parked at the time talking to each other. They both looked at me, as I looked back and walked in. I wish they had said something to me but they didn't. I wish they were still there when I walked out, but they had already left.

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it in the Police Tactics and Legal Issues thread in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. Thanks!

Member #5237
05-25-09, 00:45
[QUOTE=Junglewarrior]



Second issue is, this person claimed it was in their mailbox, than it was taped. So which is it? If it was mailed, it has to have a return address. You can NOT mail a letter out without a return address. Anyone caught doing so is violating 2 federal laws (read the current laws). Plus anyone placing an item inside you mailbox is also violating a state laws and postal laws which can be fined up to 1,000$

§ 1725. Postage unpaid on deposited mail matter

Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits any mailable matter such as statements of accounts, circulars, sale bills, or other like matter, on which no postage has been paid, in any letter box established, approved, or accepted by the Postal Service for the receipt or delivery of mail matter on any mail route with intent to avoid payment of lawful postage thereon, shall for each such offense be fined under this title.

I have 2 points to make:
1- you CAN send mail ( and the postal service will process it ) without a return address. The main reason the postal service ASKS you to include a return address is if there is a problem with the address where the item is being sent. This makes it easier to return the item to you as oppossed to the dead letter office. Only employees of the dead letter office are allowed to open mail to try and identify the senders name and/or address so the item can be returned.
2- As for placing mailable items in your mailbox without postage being paid. Technically, everything can be mailed. But do you think the postal service cares if your neighbor places her grandmothers recipe for apple pie in your mailbox? NO. This law was designed to prevent businesses from delivering circulars, ads, menus, etc......without using the postal service. These places simply hire someone ( usually a kid ) to place their materials in your mailbox. I am not sure if placing 1 letter in your mailbox falls into this category.

JungleWarrior
05-25-09, 03:42
The keywords are knowingly and willfully. I should correct my statement below to indicate "any metered mail over 1 ounce" will likely get rejected. This measure was put in place after the 2001 anthrax debacle scares with the postal service.

Whether the USPS cares or not, is a matter of choice left up to them. What does matter is, if you knowingly and willfully do it, you are still subjecting yourself to postal fines. Will the USPS pursue this type of case. Unlikely but the option is there. That was the point I was implying.

Now back to reading this forum.


[QUOTE=Junglewarrior]Second issue is, this person claimed it was in their mailbox, than it was taped. So which is it? If it was mailed, it has to have a return address. You can NOT mail a letter out without a return address. Anyone caught doing so is violating 2 federal laws (read the current laws). Plus anyone placing an item inside you mailbox is also violating a state laws and postal laws which can be fined up to 1,000$

§ 1725. Postage unpaid on deposited mail matter

Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits any mailable matter such as statements of accounts, circulars, sale bills, or other like matter, on which no postage has been paid, in any letter box established, approved, or accepted by the Postal Service for the receipt or delivery of mail matter on any mail route with intent to avoid payment of lawful postage thereon, shall for each such offense be fined under this title.

I have 2 points to make:

1- you CAN send mail ( and the postal service will process it ) without a return address. The main reason the postal service ASKS you to include a return address is if there is a problem with the address where the item is being sent. This makes it easier to return the item to you as oppossed to the dead letter office. Only employees of the dead letter office are allowed to open mail to try and identify the senders name and/or address so the item can be returned.

2- As for placing mailable items in your mailbox without postage being paid. Technically, everything can be mailed. But do you think the postal service cares if your neighbor places her grandmothers recipe for apple pie in your mailbox? NO. This law was designed to prevent businesses from delivering circulars, ads, menus, etc......without using the postal service. These places simply hire someone ( usually a kid ) to place their materials in your mailbox. I am not sure if placing 1 letter in your mailbox falls into this category.

Member #5237
05-25-09, 22:18
[QUOTE=Junglewarrior]The keywords are knowingly and willfully. I should correct my statement below to indicate "any metered mail over 1 ounce" will likely get rejected. This measure was put in place after the 2001 anthrax debacle scares with the postal service.

Again...........this is incorrect. If mail has metered postage on it, the postal service can identify where the mail came from. At no time has the postal service ever required a return address on your mail. Not before the anthrax disaster, or after it. What they did require was any mail weighing over 13 ounces with stamped postage MUST be taken to a postal clerk and handed over in person. It can not be put in a mailbox on the street. If a metered strip is used for postage there is no restrictions on using the blue mail boxes. The post office ASKS that you use a return address so that if there is a problem with delivering your mail, it can be returned you in a timely manner. Without a return address, your mail will be sent to the dead letter office where it will be opened in hopes of identifying your address. FYI: there are only 2 dead letter offices for the entire country. I believe one handles mail for east of the Mississippi river, and the other handles mail for the west. I am not sure how many people staff these offices, but clearly it is not the most efficient way of getting your mail returned.

JungleWarrior
11-18-09, 13:45
Good session past sunday. Nice body, small perky tits, great tush to squeeze. Loves milking and talks dirty and allows the ta ta's to be sucked on. gonna try some headache relief next sunday and see how that goes.

JungleWarrior
11-19-09, 15:49
BBBJDTCIMWS

WOW..quite possibly the longest acronym I have seen so far to describe one act

JungleWarrior
11-28-09, 05:52
There is a direct link from backpage.com by the girls directly to this post.None of the girls are gfe. Just light kissing. All you get is cbj and 1 pop regardless if its an hour or half hour rate. if you can pop in a half hour, i don't recommend the hour than, it's just a waste of money. Star is a cute girl, just not worth the donation and wont repeat.

JungleWarrior
12-06-09, 11:15
Cruised down 34th b/w 2nd S and 38N and nothing to be found. As I was giving up, saw 2 hot chicks walking to hess close to 38th but not SW's. Bummer. Went down to 38thN and decided to hit 4th St. It was a gold mine. Between 3-4Am I saw no less than 9 WSWs. Picked up Heidi. Decent looking, face 5, body 8 (petite spinner), brown hair, kinda curly and messy. Good BBBJCIM (spits it out of car) for. 2.

Got digits if anyone wants, pm me.

JungleWarrior
12-07-09, 23:40
Spotted a fairly tall blond WSW on Haines just by 64th.

Went back to scoop but she was in front of house on 62 with 2 guys just hanging out.

Drove by them a couple of times but they were busy. Beer & talking.

She had low cut jeans and halter top & blond curly hair.

Any other info on her? Contact etc.

RegardsI know who that is, I saw her too. Picked her up, but her face isn't all that great and she has breakout all over her face, which could mean herpes or worse HIV. I told her I wasn't interested and move on. Her names cindy

Eye Myt
12-08-09, 06:53
I know who that is, I saw her too. Picked her up, but her face isn't all that great and she has breakout all over her face, which could mean herpes or worse HIV. I told her I wasn't interested and move on. Her names cindyDescription sounds like Mindy, if so she's a reg in area. Stays at Le Mark or Kenvins usually. Service is unpredictable. I've had some decent bbbj from her, while other times she is way too chatty for me.

JungleWarrior
12-08-09, 17:11
description sounds like Mindy, if so she's a reg in area. stays at le mark or kenvins usually. service is unpredictable. I've had some decent bbbj from her, while other times she is way too chatty for me.Could be mindy and I heard cindy, sounds like you know her better than I do having gotten service from her. For me, she just didn't seem clean and if a girl doesn't at least look clean, I will pass and use my hand.

JungleWarrior
12-08-09, 17:15
Looks like the action has definitely moved to 4th St. I went out tonight and saw NOTHING on 34th, but spotted several down on 4th St. A couple of cuties were out too. I ended up partaking in a "private gal" I have on tap tonight instead of picking up any of the unknowns.

Good luck out there! Look on 4th for the WSWs. But don't forget that there are LEOs out there too. I think they are on to the fact that the action has moved because I saw a few more LEO than normal on 4th tonight.As I reported on another thread about picking up Heidi on 4th, that same night I saw 9 other WSW's so yeah the action is on 4th st now, 34th was dead when I went there the other night before I headed to 4rh st. Just becareful because there is Leo undercover parked alongside the road, seeing who is stopping or driving very slow. One was spotted by the starbucks close to 22nd Ave north and another was parked northbound on 4th in a white dodge truck.

SteelThunder
12-08-09, 20:55
I know who that is, I saw her too. Picked her up, but her face isn't all that great and she has breakout all over her face, which could mean herpes or worse HIV.

I had almost forgotten that the CDC had just added acne as one of the primary symptoms of HIV. Its one of the reasons I always put on two condoms if the girl has any acne breakout. Be warned, though, I've heard that some of these gals will go to the drugstore to buy some Oxi-10 in an effort to hide the HIV. Thanks for heads-up.

JungleWarrior
12-11-09, 04:33
I've got to try this gal, but my timing is always off. Today, she has on a pink top and braless, with the longest nips I can remember seeing. I'm always in wrong spot for her. Granted, she not a raving beauty but Smack gives her 5 stars....that's good enuff for me. BTW, anybody got a name for her??Saw this girl tonight (assuming same girl). She was wearing glasses with black trimmings on the side. Wearing blue shirt and pj's. saw her on 19th and 34th going northbound. Tried to turn around and scroop her up but she was gone just like that. GOD DAMN MAN.

JungleWarrior
12-14-09, 02:37
Went to go see Donna recently (won't say what day b/c I know Cindy and Donna read the forum), but the session is not what I expected. Was average, nothing great. Was really wanting to see Lisa after all the great things I heard about her but she was in session at the time (my mistake for not waiting and coming back but heard donna was supposedly good). Came back a couple of days afterwards and saw Lisa and it was worth the handshake donation. Anyone who visits this shop, see Lisa, she makes it very enjoyable.

JungleWarrior
12-15-09, 07:12
Looks pretty good but has a sh*tty attitude. I went to see her a while back, but she was so unfriendly that I just said 'fuggetaboutit' and left. Simone is very nice.Agreed, poor attitude.

Have you tried Megan?

Anyone recommend megan?

JungleWarrior
12-15-09, 07:18
Maybe this girl has been mentioned here before, maybe not. Scooped up a pale white girl with reddish brown hair, freckles, about 5-5 or 5-6 or so, ok body, probably late 20's or early 30's, off 7th ave North and 4st sitting on a bench the other night.

Very quite, didn't talk much. 2 for BBBJ but would not recommend because she uses too much damn teeth and I told her to ease up on the teeth but its like the python in her mouth scares her so fearing she might bite it off, I could not go past the first 3 inch of me in her. Finally got the job done after 10 min but painful none the less. Can't recall her name anymore. Dropped her off at between MLK and 4th st on 7th ave north.

Pleasur Awaits
12-18-09, 00:23
Agreed, poor attitude.

Have you tried Megan?

Anyone recommend megan?I loved Megan.

Just prompt her for what you want. Really cute too.

JungleWarrior
12-18-09, 11:50
I think there were some reviews in the Tampa forum. IIRC, they said she's hot, great massage, smiling at the end but a very limited menu. If you just need a massage and release, this should be fine. Don't expect more - even her ad says so.She mus be hurting for cash. Saw previous ads. She was charging 80/half, 125 hour around thanksgiving, than it went to 75/100 a couple of weeks ago, now its 50/80. Pretty big dip in prices. Guess with Christmas, rent and bills coming up, she has to. Hope it doesn't affect the service though. Going to see if she is available and report back.

JungleWarrior
12-30-09, 02:21
After posting on the Adult side of CL , I found this 49 yr old woman who squirts like any porn star you have ever seen. She loves anal but you have to get past the FACE!! She had her snatch rebuilt and it like a 16 yr old pussy.The FACE!! She slobbers the know like nobody you have eve seen THE FACE!

A buck and a half for this freak show! Holy Shit the FACE!!

PM for details!

travel safe

T.Can't believe you paid a buck and a half for that when you could get something so much nicer for that kinda money.

JungleWarrior
12-30-09, 02:29
Yesterday around dinner time Ladonna and her momentary boyfriend were nailed. Not a good way to end the year! Be careful out there and remember the rules. Be aware of your surroundings, don't be too aggressive in your scoops and trust your senses. It's obvious that po po uses certain ladies as bait on the streets. And sometimes they just watch a specific area of the stroll. Either way we can have fun, but remain careful! If you're stopped with a lady in your vehicle, don't admit anything!

Stay safe!34Th st is full of undercover tonight. Seen 2 mongers (1 for sure) pulled over by undercover LEO tonight. 2008 or 09 grey chevy Silverado pulled up behind a monger car who was obvious in his scoop. Half a mile down the road on 34th and 11th ave north, a silver nissan Maxima (late model as well) had already pulled over another vehicle (don't know if it was monger related). Didn't plan on finding out and left the scene.

Member #1658
12-30-09, 19:35
Are you saying PoPo has a Maxima? I can believe the Silverado, but I've never seen local PoPo in foreign cars. That adds a whole new level of complexity to watching for LEO if they're doing UC in foreign cars...

Are you sure about the Maxima?


34Th st is full of undercover tonight. Seen 2 mongers (1 for sure) pulled over by undercover LEO tonight. 2008 or 09 grey chevy Silverado pulled up behind a monger car who was obvious in his scoop. Half a mile down the road on 34th and 11th ave north, a silver nissan Maxima (late model as well) had already pulled over another vehicle (don't know if it was monger related). Didn't plan on finding out and left the scene.

JungleWarrior
12-31-09, 01:27
Cute face for sure, but she says she is GFE but doesn't speak French at all? What am I missing on this one? Greek she says no to but that is more understandable.

I just wonder how you can be an escort claim GFE, but no oral conversation.. Go figure that one out...

Happy Hunting..Not sure where you see she doesn't speak french?

Are you seeing something we aren't Rcon?

JungleWarrior
12-31-09, 01:29
Are you saying PoPo has a Maxima? I can believe the Silverado, but I've never seen local PoPo in foreign cars. That adds a whole new level of complexity to watching for LEO if they're doing UC in foreign cars...

Are you sure about the Maxima?Yup. As I was waiting for the light to turn green, I was watching what was going on and it was a Maxima. Again, it might not be monger related, it might be. It could have been an off duty detective or something that pulled a car over because they were drunk, speeding, etc, who knows, but yes it was a Maxima.

JungleWarrior
12-31-09, 01:34
And while I don't justify his need to flame broil herLOL a flame broiled ho.

Guess that can be Burger Kings new sandwich idea for 2010.

SteelThunder
12-31-09, 12:07
she says she is GFE but doesn't speak French at all? What am I missing on this one? Greek she says no to but that is more understandable. I just wonder how you can be an escort claim GFE, but no oral conversation.. Go figure that one out....


Not sure where you see she doesn't speak french?

Are you seeing something we aren't Rcon?

I'm sure he was looking at her website. She clearly states that she doesn't speak french or greek. Apparently, based on the responses of members who have seen her, she does speak French. Someone should give her an updated version of the Monger dictionary, so she is clear on what languages she speaks well so she can change her website. It seems like it would cost her business if potential customers aren't aware of her linguistic skills. Bonne chance et ętre sain.

R Consultant
12-31-09, 12:20
Steel saw it also, on website she states she doesn't speak French. I agree with Steel she needs to update her funk dictionary on hobbyist terms.

Maybe she doesn't realize it or a typo.

Happy Hunting...


Not sure where you see she doesn't speak french?

Are you seeing something we aren't Rcon?

R Consultant
12-31-09, 12:27
Back in the day she was something to look at, now crispy and burnt is just plain disgusting.

If one of you cats have partaken you have more balls than I do... ughhh!

Happy Hunting..



LOL a flame broiled ho.

Guess that can be Burger Kings new sandwich idea for 2010.

Under130
12-31-09, 14:52
Yup. As I was waiting for the light to turn green, I was watching what was going on and it was a Maxima. Again, it might not be monger related, it might be. It could have been an off duty detective or something that pulled a car over because they were drunk, speeding, etc, who knows, but yes it was a Maxima.They will use any vehicle they have seized, especially in drug cases. I've seen a Maxima being used by the Pinellas SO.

JungleWarrior
01-13-10, 02:30
Come on guys. It's always the same. Pay 80 for a full hour, skip the table shower. Every one of these ladies is the same just about. I usually get a nice Massage and some very fun soft touching in just the right spots. There's a flip and I touch them and they ask "What do you want? " Answer is: EVERYTHING, or THE WORKS. Very badly done BJ that they try to rush, or covered, then they want to climb on or have you climb on and hurry. Give them $ to $20 at the end. I'm not sure why anyone is treating this like a mystery. These females on Craigslist can be had for 60 to 80 each. Don't let them fool you with their nonsense. They're at MOST 100 and if one is REALLY REALLY smoking incredibly out of the magazine hot 120. I'm pretty darn tired of the AMPs prices. 73rd aromatherapy is always the same. 30 or 40 to get in for a 1/2, 100 for the full menu.Don't understand why some people waste their time on AMPs. I have been to 2 AMPs and both were lousy experiences because the girl kept trying to rush me out and kept saying "you hurry now, you hurry now". When someone tells me to hurry, it just pisses me off because it kills the momentum you are trying to build up to. Places like 73rd and FT and TG have a menu, you know what you are getting for the menu, you don't have to fish around wondering what this will get you, what that will get you.

I do prefer 73rd over TG only because they have a variety of ladies ranging from asian, black, white, young college codes, MILF, blonde, brunette, whereas TG is mainly white girls that are either brunettes or blondes, and that's it.

Plus 73rd has more private rooms, whereas TG's rooms are ackward that the lady in the lobby can actually hear you, even if you are whispering in your session because the room is right by the lobby. I only go to TG when there is only 1 lady working and its late at night so I don't have to worry about someone overhearing our session.

JungleWarrior
01-13-10, 15:18
Now what I can't figure out is why anyone would go to either of these places. The women are NO better than women we can pick up easily in the local bar. They're not very attractive and way overused. We're in this hobby to be with women that are STUNNING, women we'd have to spend more time and money on to MAYBE get together with. I'm getting pretty tired of the women who are charging $ plus, who I wouldn't even buy a drink at the local bar.I have only been to TG 3 times, and 2 of them were with Lisa. It wasn't because she was smoking hot. It was because handshakes are just great and "she gets all up on that". Had the pleasure of meeting Megan, she was good too. But that's why I said I like 73rd over TG/FT because they have a bigger and varied selection.

JungleWarrior
01-16-10, 08:55
I think the voice recorder is so the owner can make sure the girl isn't making a side deal with the customer.That doesn't even make sense. Making a side deal how? The girls, be it at FT or TG or 73rd or AMPS all have to tip out. Depending on the session at FT/TG, the tipout varies (from what was told to me by Lisa) according to the menu you choose.

At 73rd (again from Lauren who I have seen twice there) the tip out is only 10 dollars from the donation, regardless what I leave the girl. If I lay a 1000 dollar donation or a 100 dollar donation for whatever menu item I get, the tipout is still 10 dollars.

Not sure how it works for AMPS since I have only been twice and found it to be tooooooo expensive.

Plus half the girls that work at 73rd escort outside the shop, and have ads on backpage or craigslist that I have seen, so what side deal are you talking about?

And the whole voice recorder thing, come on, you seriously believe that? We are suppose to be giving each other accurate information, not hearsay and rumors. I checked your previous posts and you seem to favor FT/TG and doesn't seem like you have even stepped foot in 73rd.

JungleWarrior
01-16-10, 17:20
Since I have tried 73rd a few times, its a fact that the owner records and films everything. I love it when the girls talk crap about the owner 'Julie" or whatever her name is.

I was told she has a direct link and is sitting on her butt watching everything, getting plate numbers and listening like a peeping tom. So if you really think your safe hanging out at 73rd you pretty much have a date with a LE officer one day. Don't say you didn't get warned first.Again, another hearsay story which seems like a direct attack on a shop to ruin its reputation for an apparent vendetta reason. You went to 73rd a few times, but you know its a fact that the owner records and listens to everything, and writes down plate numbers yet you still went? That makes sense.

That's ok, people that have been to this shop like myself know the truth. Like I have stated a few times, I have been to this shop, never had a problem with the owner or the girls or the service, and even stopped in 1 time while a LE car was in the parking lot, walked right by him and nothing happened.

Are there video cameras at this place? Yes. Is that bad? No. Its actually pretty smart that the cameras were installed so that INCASE a raid ever did happen at this shop, they can see it coming and I can get my shit together. But the cameras aren't there in rooms being recorded or transmitted to the internet where someone can watch a live feed like on porn sites of you. There are 2 obvious cameras in plain site. The one in the lobby, the one in the parking lot.

JungleWarrior
01-16-10, 23:57
I was told by more than one person that used to work there about the voice recording. Can't give their names since the owner reads this board.
I don't know the owners real name, she goes by Lady Elane. Don't think I spelled it right. Hi L.E.

I think a camera in the parking lot to warn of LEO is a good idea. But NOT in the shop and NOT voice recording. There's no good reason for that!

Nope, I don't think it's safe there.Since you have some inside information that none of us have that have been to this shop, please ask your "sources" where these hidden recording devices are at location wise and pm the info and I will go and see if the info is correct.

You said "used to work". Did it occur to you, maybe they were disgruntled employees? Have you ever been fired from a job you did not talk bad about after-wards?

I recently saw one girl who used to work at TG a few months ago and was fired (wont go into details) and all she did was talk crap about the shop, but like i said, I have been to TG a couple of times, have yet to have a problem, just like I have been to 73rd and yet to have a problem. Girls talk bad about their employers all the time in this industry, just like they bash other providers in this industry.

I recall an incident where a provider actually tried to tell me that another provider I had been looking for that she was friends with or had worked with a few times, was supposedly in jail for drugs and all this other stuff and she had STDS, etc, just to get me to see her. After a few months that provider popped up again on backpage. I was reluctant to contact her because of the info that was given to me by her so called 'friend", but I did. Had a session with her, and she explained that she was not providing because she got pregnant and did not want to put her babies life in jeopardy or get a disease while she provided. This is a provider that has been discussed here NUMEROUS times, has a GOOD reputation and has good feedback, and everyone would know who she is if i mentioned her name (she no longer provides anymore so its pointless).

Point is, don't believe everything you hear. That's why GOD gave you a brain, to use it to think, not listen to rumours.

JungleWarrior
01-19-10, 03:32
Because our site is simple and low cost I am able to keep our prices low. Low overhead means low prices for you.

Neither F. T. Or T. G. Have cameras either inside or out. Our belief is locked doors are enough to keep unwanted guests away. Doors ARE locked whenever there is a session in progress. Thank you, and I hope this answers any questions. CindyNot to be a hardass Cindy but, what does having a simple site have to do with overhead or controlling prices? Even a large portion of LMTs who only do outcalls or as independent contractors have personal websites.

The only thing I dont like about FT/TG sessions over 30 min is it becomes a price haggling and no one really likes haggling over prices, specially in the middle of the session, that's why I stick with menus that are already set in motion. Maybe other guys don't mind, but I do.

Cindy, I have heard from hobbyist on here (through pm) that the rooms do have hidden microphones in them, and was even given the location of those hidden microphones, but before I believe or disbelief the information that was provided to me, I am going to go in and see if those microphones are actually in the locations provided to me.

Truthbeknown
01-19-10, 18:19
Simple marketing skills my friend. Websites can vary in prices from $500. Up to $3000. And even more depending upon how elaberate you want them. Where do you think the price of that is going to trickel down to? I have looked at competitors sites and noticed alot of mumbo jumbo on the site that to me is unnecessary. I try to keep the site to the point of interest to the customers and what their really interested in. My site shows me where the customers go to the most. Photos, priceing, and schedules. That is what I concentrate on. I pay 19. 99 a year for my site, nothing to pass down the line and I do not trade service for service as some people do as I've heard that it gets out of control.

First of all we determine priceing prior to beginning session. If your not comfortable with our priceing arrangement then by all means stick to the menu.

I find this last issue humorous. Your more than welcome to come in anytime, state who you are, and I will be glad to let you go through all rooms. This invitation is extended to anyone who believes this crap! I will be here tomorrow, how about you? Why would anyone put themselves at risk?


Not to be a hardass Cindy but, what does having a simple site have to do with overhead or controlling prices? Even a large portion of LMTs who only do outcalls or as independent contractors have personal websites.

The only thing I don't like about FT/TG sessions over 30 min is it becomes a price haggling and no one really likes haggling over prices, specially in the middle of the session, that's why I stick with menus that are already set in motion. Maybe other guys don't mind, but I do.

Cindy, I have heard from hobbyist on here (through pm) that the rooms do have hidden microphones in them, and was even given the location of those hidden microphones, but before I believe or disbelief the information that was provided to me, I am going to go in and see if those microphones are actually in the locations provided to me.

JungleWarrior
01-21-10, 03:18
I've wondered that very same thing.I tried the 40 dollar option, its not worth it. You have to upgrade to the 60 option on the 20 min menu, to get any satisfaction and fun if you are looking for quick release. Not sure if the 60 dollar option qualifies for the 20$ discount, thus making it a 40 dollar donation, or the 40 option being only 20 after the discount.

Mongeur
01-21-10, 15:42
Cindy, I have heard from hobbyist on here (through pm) that the rooms do have hidden microphones in them, and was even given the location of those hidden microphones, but before I believe or disbelief the information that was provided to me, I am going to go in and see if those microphones are actually in the locations provided to me.
I find this last issue humorous. Your more than welcome to come in anytime, state who you are, and I will be glad to let you go through all rooms. This invitation is extended to anyone who believes this crap! I will be here tomorrow, how about you? Why would anyone put themselves at risk?
If you guys think either one of these Massage Parlors are going to just show you where their "bugs" are I got news for you. Since I worked for a security company once upon a time, good luck finding her veiled objects. Microphones and cameras can be disguised as so many different items.
Just remember some of the girls that are there daily don't even know where these objects are.
Good try Cindy you almost had the guys on this one.I normally stay out of these types of discussions, but have to put my two cents in this time.

JungleWarrior raised a facially legitimate (yet unsubstantiated) concern based upon information provided to him. Since he said he was going to go validate for himself (since he had been given the location of the supposed bugs) it would have been better for him to wait until after he investigated to post this allegation. If indeed it were true, tipping the alleged perpetrator off that you were going to come looking would seem to reduce the likelihood of what you're looking for still being there when you got there. Then if nothing was found on the validation visit, you'd be confident that the person who PM'd you was full of it, an agent provocateur, or whatever (and we wouldn't have this rumor out there getting some folks all spun up).

In any event, Truthbeknown (Cindy) offered what I feel is a very reasonable reply/solution -- anybody who has this concern is free to show up at her shop and go through the rooms to satisfy themselves that this is not the case. Sure, "bugs" can come in any form, but any that are going to be used for continuous monitoring will either have to be wired or will transmit with radio waves. A wireless bug would be the height of stupidity because it could be eavesdropped by anybody for any purpose -- including purposes that would hurt the person who supposedly placed the bug. So, even if you're worried about microphones in clocks and plants and such, those clocks or plants will have wires coming out of them that don't make any sense (my house plants don't have any wires anyway). Sure, something like a clock radio should have a power cord, but only a power cord, not a power cord and a piece of coax cable. Assuming you're looking for a wired bug, this makes the search a lot easier if someone is so inclined. I'm going to rule out encrypted wireless bugs because that's so far beyond reality (in this context) that if you're worried about it you must be (or think you are) in MI-6.

Smackthatass, what response could Cindy have offered that would have been satisfactory? Even if she paid for a professional bug sweep (about $400 -- I have attended them being done) someone would say "she removed them before the sweep was done" or "the sweep report is forged". So, what, because there is no possible satisfactory response on her part it must be true?

If you've got that much to lose by your mongering then you shouldn't be mongering because any of these girls could hide a MP3 voice recorder and record per-session if they wanted and you'd never know. If there is credible evidence that some sort of recording is going on - then I think it proper to let everyone know and we can vote with our feet. Speculation and rumors are just that until substantiated and I don't think it's fair to toss it out there and expect the accused to "prove a negative" (prove that it's not happening) since (as illustrated) there's no way for them to do that.

P.S. Even though I posed questions in this post, they were rhetorical. I do not expect (nor want) answers. This place is so much more useful when we stick to the purpose.

Edgar Alan Ho
01-21-10, 21:29
I tried the 40 dollar option, its not worth it. You have to upgrade to the 60 option on the 20 min menu, to get any satisfaction and fun if you are looking for quick release. Not sure if the 60 dollar option qualifies for the 20$ discount, thus making it a 40 dollar donation, or the 40 option being only 20 after the discount.

You know what's going on here is one cowgirl is trying to corral wild mavericks and it just won't work. Whether or not you get a discount and what kind of service you get will depend on who you see and what mood they're in at that time.

JungleWarrior
01-22-10, 05:47
You know what's going on here is one cowgirl is trying to corral wild mavericks and it just won't work. Whether or not you get a discount and what kind of service you get will depend on who you see and what mood they're in at that time.I agree with you. My session with Megan, was 180 degree different than my session with Lisa at FT. Not saying they were bad, I am just saying both were good, but 2 different styles.

Same with 73rd. My session with Cameron was completely different than my session with Madison. Both hot young girls, but each one has her own way of releasing the tension.

Either way, both shops are good, can't complain, but as stated before, I like 73rd because of the variety they have, not to take away anything from Cindys shop. It's just that cindys shop doesn't have variety, that's all.

Cindy appreciates feedback, well consider that a feedback Cindy. Try hiring some asian women, some young spinners, etc.

JungleWarrior
01-22-10, 05:55
Saw aimee last night near Jefferson and Myrtle. She looked like crap. Heavy bags under her eyes, acne scaring all over her face. She looks horrible from the last time I seen her. Was horny, so I gave her a ride back to her hotel and she had 2 other girls there and a pimp. Not wanting to stay, I was going to leave but she really wanted the money. I said oh well, fuck it.

20 BBBJ that turned into a 40 FS. She bitched the whole time "did you cum yet" told her shut up or I will not cum and she won't get paid. Pussy is tight, just not worth the headache. She thinks she is still the queen be of streetwalkers.

Would not recommend her, bad attitude these days. Her friend L. B. Though. Man that girl is fine though. Aimee would not give me the other girls digits. Anyone got L. B's digits?

She's petite, skinny as hell (maybe 5-1 and 100 pounds), really good looking "almost like a cheerleader" and she doesn't seem to be a heavy drug user yet because her face is crystal clear from any acne scaring and she was very sober and in a good attitude when I was leaving as she smiled at me.

Member #5237
01-23-10, 00:25
Cindy appreciates feedback, well consider that a feedback Cindy. Try hiring some asian women, some young spinners, etc.



And lets not forget the little people (midgets).

JungleWarrior
01-23-10, 07:16
I read all these posts and think with all the traveling I have done, one thing is certain these places are all about making money. End of story!

Whatever means they used whether ugly chicks-hot chicks-spinners-Asians they really don't care anything about you other than bring them some more money and get a good review so you will bring your buddies in to spend more money.

If you don't think that is true. By all means walk into any massage parlor and say I want the works and I have no cash. LOL! See how quickly you will be leaving.

Since I think all these places are a joke and have learned that walking into them is a like put putting a "bullseye" on your tag number and you. So don't think for one second you are safe by any means. Take it from someone who has learned the hard knock way. You are better off staying invisible and don't think that anyone is really looking out for you- they are not.

Happy HuntingI don't get the point of this post. Every massage parlor, aromatherapy, lingerie shop, etc etc etc are all in it to make money. That's the reason they exist. I disagree with you on the way of making money. As with any business, if you don't have quality products, you will soon go under and be run out of the business. Would you go to these shop if the chicks working their were fat, bbw, obese women who were ugly? Hell no. And to say the girls don't care about you, I don't know about that. They know if they treat you right, you will come back for more.

Your quote about "being run out quickly" could be used for not just shops, but everywhere. Same could be said if you walked into burger king and said, I want a whopper, but I don't have cash. Of course you would be run out quickly. Again, don't get the point you are trying to make.

Staying invisible would mean never hobbying. You can't pick up a Streetwalker without possibly being popped. You can't visit a shop without LE being around watching the shop taking tag numbers. You can't visit a escort for incall because she might have a pimp waiting outside to write down your tag number while you are doing a session. You can't have a girl come to you because you are opening up yourself to more problems by bringing a girl to your place.

Again, there's only 1 way to stay invisible, and that's not to hobby at all. Is that what you are getting at?

Peter Rammer
01-23-10, 12:45
Saw aimee last night near Jefferson and Myrtle. She looked like crap. Heavy bags under her eyes, acne scaring all over her face. She looks horrible from the last time I seen her. Was horny, so I gave her a ride back to her hotel and she had 2 other girls there and a pimp. Not wanting to stay, I was going to leave but she really wanted the money. I said oh well, fuck it.

20 BBBJ that turned into a 40 FS. She bitched the whole time "did you cum yet" told her shut up or I will not cum and she won't get paid. Pussy is tight, just not worth the headache. She thinks she is still the queen be of streetwalkers.

Would not recommend her, bad attitude these days. Her friend L. B. Though. Man that girl is fine though. Aimee would not give me the other girls digits. Anyone got L. B's digits?

She's petite, skinny as hell (maybe 5-1 and 100 pounds), really good looking "almost like a cheerleader" and she doesn't seem to be a heavy drug user yet because her face is crystal clear from any acne scaring and she was very sober and in a good attitude when I was leaving as she smiled at me.Was walking quite a bit around GTB yesterday afternoon even crossing Highland and walking to the ice cream shop. Guess you got a worn out girl when you scooped her azz? She's too unpredictable IMO.

Lb has been around for about a year, but almost never walks. She was one of the original Able Hottie girls from one-eyed Bills party house on Highland.

I think she's 19 yo and she hangs with Terry a lot. Suprised to see her with wacky Aimee? Lb could easily pass for a high school cheerleader and is GFE all the way. You'll pay about double the usual SW rate if you hook up with her. But it'll be well worth it IMO. I've only seen her walking a couple of times so you need to get the hook up some other way.

R Consultant
01-23-10, 18:04
Your post about going to check it out yourself shows how little you know. If you ever played poker your opponent isn't going to show their hand to you. They will show you what they want you to know. Then they will cash you out.

When I see people kiss these hookers ass its obvious they don't realize the game that is being played. You really think these ladies are going to take the pop for you? I guess if you interviewed some of the guys sitting at the steelbar hilton you would understand better.

Being invisible is just that, you can play the game just don't be stupid about it. Common sense and who you associate with is what really matters. I would never park my car at a shop again. Spend some time and embarrassment and you will soon be on the same page.

Who in their right mind would want to be on tape or recorded at a place that already has a shady reputation? Its a false security that most people have. As I said you have to learn the hard way sometimes to realize how vulnerable you really are. Take what I say anyway you want, but don't say I didn't warn you that these shops are not going unnoticed.

Happy Hunting..





I don't get the point of this post. Every massage parlor, aromatherapy, lingerie shop, etc etc etc are all in it to make money. That's the reason they exist. I disagree with you on the way of making money. As with any business, if you don't have quality products, you will soon go under and be run out of the business. Would you go to these shop if the chicks working their were fat, bbw, obese women who were ugly? Hell no. And to say the girls don't care about you, I don't know about that. They know if they treat you right, you will come back for more.

Your quote about "being run out quickly" could be used for not just shops, but everywhere. Same could be said if you walked into burger king and said, I want a whopper, but I don't have cash. Of course you would be run out quickly. Again, don't get the point you are trying to make.

Staying invisible would mean never hobbying. You can't pick up a Streetwalker without possibly being popped. You can't visit a shop without LE being around watching the shop taking tag numbers. You can't visit a escort for incall because she might have a pimp waiting outside to write down your tag number while you are doing a session. You can't have a girl come to you because you are opening up yourself to more problems by bringing a girl to your place.

Again, there's only 1 way to stay invisible, and that's not to hobby at all. Is that what you are getting at?

Wolverine2030
01-24-10, 16:12
I don't get the point of this post. Every massage parlor, aromatherapy, lingerie shop, etc etc etc are all in it to make money. That's the reason they exist. I disagree with you on the way of making money. As with any business, if you don't have quality products, you will soon go under and be run out of the business. Would you go to these shop if the chicks working their were fat, bbw, obese women who were ugly? Hell no. And to say the girls don't care about you, I don't know about that. They know if they treat you right, you will come back for more.

Your quote about "being run out quickly" could be used for not just shops, but everywhere. Same could be said if you walked into burger king and said, I want a whopper, but I don't have cash. Of course you would be run out quickly. Again, don't get the point you are trying to make.

Staying invisible would mean never hobbying. You can't pick up a Streetwalker without possibly being popped. You can't visit a shop without LE being around watching the shop taking tag numbers. You can't visit a escort for incall because she might have a pimp waiting outside to write down your tag number while you are doing a session. You can't have a girl come to you because you are opening up yourself to more problems by bringing a girl to your place.

Again, there's only 1 way to stay invisible, and that's not to hobby at all. Is that what you are getting at?My take is that are Consultant was referring to keeping a "small radar cross section" I. E. Not being reckless and stupid, being extra aware of your surrounding, not seeing just any provider, not being in drama and bringing attention your way. All just plan good hobbying. One can be almost invisible in the hobby, almost.

JungleWarrior
01-26-10, 00:50
Was walking quite a bit around GTB yesterday afternoon even crossing Highland and walking to the ice cream shop. Guess you got a worn out girl when you scooped her azz? She's too unpredictable IMO.

Lb has been around for about a year, but almost never walks. She was one of the original Able Hottie girls from one-eyed Bills party house on Highland.

I think she's 19 yo and she hangs with Terry a lot. Suprised to see her with wacky Aimee? Lb could easily pass for a high school cheerleader and is GFE all the way. You'll pay about double the usual SW rate if you hook up with her. But it'll be well worth it IMO. I've only seen her walking a couple of times so you need to get the hook up some other way.Got L.B. digits last night and hooked up with her tonight. GFE she is and girl has a sense of humor on her too.

JungleWarrior
01-26-10, 01:00
Guys, I'm sorry. I screwed up. I recommended Kittie and Wendy. I played with Wendy at 24K, after previously getting her # and then getting invited into the back for a no holds barred FS session in VIP. I visited Kittie and Wendy in their hotel room and of course got the lazy service from Kittie (the better looking one is always lazy). Wendy is more willing to please. I put up ads for them in return for some more play time. In the past I've done so for women who I KNEW would take care of me for free whenever I wanted and who provided good service to everyone else. Now they want me to put up ads again for them and visit them tomorrow so they can make it up to me. . . GUYS, that's an instant warning! It's the classic ***** get what they can get mentality, as if they're entitled to it! I actually got Kittie's # originally to take her out and date her normally. What the hell was I thinking!This is exactly my point in another thread. Some people, senior member or not, have hidden agendas. You should have come out with this in the beginning...not after i got a LOUSY service from them.

Thank god I only wasted 80 dollars.

JungleWarrior
01-27-10, 15:40
Plus I'd surely think about rereading the 22 rules and thinking with the big head while mongering. Many of the ladies will 'rob' you if given the opportunity. I've had many dreams with Samantha and never been robbed?

If I had given her the opportunity, she'd likely to have gotten my money?

Alicia, whose last name rhymes with rock, is one of the dumbest ladies walking. Even Kentucky believed Alicia was/is Clearwaters' dumbest working girl. You need to maintain control and not let her dictate the date. She'll take you to a db's room or house in a heartbeat! She almost never has her own room, but either hangs with her db or her good buddy Mike. Mike befriends many of the local SW's and shares a last name with former Vice President Al Gore.That or one eyed bills house. China took me there last time I seen her. Never going back again, let alone seeing China. A SW that tells you that you are too big for her. Seriously?

JungleWarrior
01-27-10, 15:53
Just a fyi on my last post, i did not get a lousy service, but I did talk to kittie last night about this situation, and she had some interesting stuff to say about you RJ.

Says you offered your help to them, posted the ad for them, and she paid you the money and that should have been that, BUT you saw they were getting alot of calls, came in demanding free sex, which threw them both off and they declined the offer, and you in return deleted their ads.

This is why some people can't be trusted on here and it's easy to spread false lies about people. I am planning on meeting up with them over the weekend and will report back than

JungleWarrior
01-27-10, 16:00
I was at babydolls last night hanging with a friend, and all of a sudden, you hear a fight outside. After all the hoopla died down, this is what was the confirmed story.

Some idiot monger went to the club last night, got 6 lap dances from some poor girl, gave her 20's for the dances. That's not including the multiple 1 dollar bills he tipped girls on stage. In total, they found about 350 dollars worth of counterfeit money passed by him.

As I am standing outside watching LE (about 9 police cruisers and unmarked vehicles) put this monger in the back of a po po car headed for the steelbar, a fight breaks out and all hell broke loose.

Moral of the story, don't mess with strippers and money. This guy had to be a moron to pass fake money to a stripper and really think a STRIPPER of all people wont know her money lol. They may be strippers but they are not dumb.

Tucker40
01-27-10, 19:58
This guy had to be a moron to pass fake money to a stripper and really think a STRIPPER of all people wont know her money lol. They may be strippers but they are not dumb.

Not disputing the IQ of the monger and never been to Baby Dolls but most clubs I've been in check large bills (like 20s) at the door and search for the embedded strip.

Chances are the stripper brought them to the door and the counterfeit was discovered.

Sw Samurai
01-27-10, 20:18
A SW that tells you that you are too big for her. Seriously?

Tell me about it, if I had a nickel for every time...

Tampa Monger
01-27-10, 20:30
They may be strippers but they are not dumb.

You meant to say, "they may be strippers but they are not dumb about getting money and knowing it's real." In other categories of cluelessness, I imagine most of them score pretty high.

JungleWarrior
01-28-10, 01:46
Not disputing the IQ of the monger and never been to Baby Dolls but most clubs I've been in check large bills (like 20s) at the door and search for the embedded strip.

Chances are the stripper brought them to the door and the counterfeit was discovered.I have never heard the club checking your money before you go in. I can see you giving the bartender or waitress a 100 dollar bill and her marking it at the bar or coming back with your change after she had the bartender check it, but I have never heard of a club checking your money at the door.

JungleWarrior
01-29-10, 01:55
I've never been in Cindy's place, or any of the other AMPs in the area (unfortunately, I moved several years ago from Miami and ended up in a part of the state with very few providers. You guys are very lucky to have so many options).

That said, the reality is that if a provider wishes to record you, it can be done VERY easily, and you likely would never know. There are many products available that are relatively inexpensive, easy to conceal, and simple for any amateur to use.

For example, you can buy. Online. An ink pen that records up to 3 hours of audio/video and stores it on a built-in DVR. No wires, no transmissions, no external power supply. Just set it down somewhere within eight feet or so of the target, let it record, and then plug it into your USB port to save and view the recording. Cost: About $100.

For a little more money, you can buy electrical outlet faceplates, Exit signs, plug-in air fresheners, smoke detectors, and cell phone chargers with the same kind of set-up. Or, for less than $1, 000, a provider in a location with drop ceilings (which at least some of these places probably have) could put in a wired pinhole camera system capable of delivering audio/video to any computer monitor or television in the place. The cables could be concealed in the ceiling, and the camera would be invisible unless you climbed up and inspected the ceiling. If the provider wanted to record audio only, the microphone would not even need to penetrate all the way through the ceiling tiles.

As one of the other posters said, you can never really be 100%. The only way to protect yourself against something like this is to make sure that YOU control the environment. That means using your own location and restricting what the provider is able to bring into that environment.

I guess what you have to decide is where you want to draw the line between being being careful and being paranoid.This info is all nice and sweet but you can't control the environment if you are going inside a AMP, Aromatherapy shop, Lingerie shop. Sure you can park 2-3 blocks down the street and walk, but that's all you can do. Unless you are going to stop visiting these kinds of places, you have to becareful as you said.

JungleWarrior
01-30-10, 05:24
I was down in St pete tonight, when I pass 22nd Ave and and 34th, and a cruiser pulls out of parking lot and starts following me (going 42 in a 35). This went on for about 20 blocks (he finally pulled away after I hit the light on 2nd Ave South. It pissed me off. Saw 2 SW so I could not scoop. Did a U-turn around on 22ave South and head back North when ANOTHER damn LE starts following. At this point, I had enough.

I pulled over to gas station on like 19th Ave South or whatever, the cruiser pulls into the gas station, and I get out to get gas, but before I do, I walk to the cruiser and inform the PIG "we aren't playing this game tonight, can I help him with something? " He gets out of the car, asks for my ID, and I ask him for what reason, than tell him one of his brothers just followed me for 20 blocks and this "follow people and make them paranoid game" wasn't going to be played on me tonight.

I asked him, is there anything about my car that draws attention to get 2 pigs to follow me one right after the other? If not, that's basis for harassment right there. I asked him if there was anything I can help him with before I filled up gas. He said no, got back in his car, and drove away.

Wasn't sticking around after that point and just left the area. Knew if he went back to his hiding spot and seen me cruising, he would have cause to pull me over and I wasn't going to give him that.

Be careful of St pete pigs.

JungleWarrior
01-30-10, 19:33
Anyone know what's the difference between a "prostitution" charge and a "prostitution (felony)" charge?

I thought that the "prostitution (felony)" charge was more serious (i.e. not just a misdemeanor, and applied for repeat offenders(?)) -- but I notice that Stephanie B (Stephanie L) was released within only 5 hours or so today after being nabbed on a "prostitution (felony)" charge. Odd...Florida Statue 796.07(4)(C)/F

796.07 Prohibiting prostitution, etc.; evidence; penalties; definitions

-(4)A person who violates any provision of this section commits

--(c) A felony of the third degree for a third or subsequent violation, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

It just simply means, she was on prohibition and she violated it on her most recent arrest less than a month ago for drug possesion, and got charged with a felony.

Nemodc
01-31-10, 01:11
close enough to get a cigarette. There is no such thing as being "on prohibition". That word is in the title of the code section that prohibits (outlaws, makes criminal) prostitution and of no consequence to the charge or language of the statute. Other than assisting in locating the correct code section in reference material. If she were on PROBATION, that would be a separate and distinct charge of violation of probation.

The felony aspect in prostitution comes into play under section 4C below that you copied. Anyone in Florida who has 2 prior prostitution convictions can be charged with Felony Prostitution under that code section. Upon conviction the sentence would be imposed accordingly. THAT'S the simplicity of it. It has nothing to to with infections, probation, prohibition or the like. Prostitution with an infection is dealt with under another code section.

Interestingly enough, if she has convictions in other states, and those state statutes are substantially similar (similar acts, conduct prohibited) they can be used for the enhancement. Of course triple sealed certified copies of those court records would be necessary to prove the convictions.

Just as petit larceny can be charged as a felony if you have 2 or more prior convictions.

No Holiday Inn, just law school

Nemo


Florida Statue 796.07(4)(C)/F

796.07 Prohibiting prostitution, etc.; evidence; penalties; definitions

-(4)A person who violates any provision of this section commits

--(c) A felony of the third degree for a third or subsequent violation, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

It just simply means, she was on prohibition and she violated it on her most recent arrest less than a month ago for drug possesion, and got charged with a felony.

Nemodc
01-31-10, 01:20
for you either Steel. For the charge to be a felony, it requires 2 prior prostitution CONVICTIONS. Not just charges. And they have to be prostitution convictions, not just any garden variety misdemeanors. She could be convicted of the felony or if the evidence did not prove the 2 priors, she could be convicted of the misdemeanor act. The 2 priors convictions are elements of the offense of felony prostitution and must be proven at trial.

As that statute is a STATE statute, it is applicable anywhere in Florida, not just Pinellas county The convictions also can be from anywhere in the state or even other states. Read down one post for that info.

Your analysis of the HIV thing is correct. So you get to stand downwind and get secondhand smoke.

YES Steel, IM JUST MESSING WITH YOU AND JungleWarrior.

Nemo


A 3rd prostitution conviction in Pinellas county is a felony. It is designed to make repeat offenders face stiffer penalties. If a girl has been charged with 2 prior misdemeanors the next time she is arrested its going to go on the books as a felony. The HIV statute itself is a different one altogether.

JungleWarrior
01-31-10, 06:38
close enough to get a cigarette. There is no such thing as being "on prohibition". That word is in the title of the code section that prohibits (outlaws, makes criminal) prostitution and of no consequence to the charge or language of the statute. Other than assisting in locating the correct code section in reference material. If she were on PROBATION, that would be a separate and distinct charge of violation of probation.

The felony aspect in prostitution comes into play under section 4C below that you copied. Anyone in Florida who has 2 prior prostitution convictions can be charged with Felony Prostitution under that code section. Upon conviction the sentence would be imposed accordingly. THAT'S the simplicity of it. It has nothing to to with infections, probation, prohibition or the like. Prostitution with an infection is dealt with under another code section.

Interestingly enough, if she has convictions in other states, and those state statutes are substantially similar (similar acts, conduct prohibited) they can be used for the enhancement. Of course triple sealed certified copies of those court records would be necessary to prove the convictions.

Just as petit larceny can be charged as a felony if you have 2 or more prior convictions.

No Holiday Inn, just law school

NemoYeah but the arresting officer has the right to charge her with what they see fit. It all depends on the LEO mood at the time. I have seen cases in person, that people got arrested on a DWLSR when it was a Misd and they had no prior arrest records for ANYTHING, and it was their first time getting slapped with a DWLSR. I have also seen people who got charged with DWLSR and it was a felony and all they had to do was pay the ticket (brother got pulled over, given a DWLSR ticket and it was felony charge and paid his fine), and I have also seen people who got charged with a DWLSR and although not technically arrested, were still booked with "paperwork only" charge.

A third arrest for the same thing if there were 2 prior arrests for prostitution has nothing to do with that person until it goes to trial, and even then, a smart attorney can get that thrown out easily. Notice her arrest record. No prior prostitution arrest in Pinellas, Hills, Pasco, Polk or Manatee county. Is it possible she had 2 prior arrests in other counties? Maybe, but the arresting officer wouldn't know that until she was booked and charged.

Peter Rammer
01-31-10, 17:06
for you either Steel. For the charge to be a felony, it requires 2 prior prostitution CONVICTIONS. Not just charges. And they have to be prostitution convictions, not just any garden variety misdemeanors. She could be convicted of the felony or if the evidence did not prove the 2 priors, she could be convicted of the misdemeanor act. The 2 priors convictions are elements of the offense of felony prostitution and must be proven at trial.

As that statute is a STATE statute, it is applicable anywhere in Florida, not just Pinellas county The convictions also can be from anywhere in the state or even other states. Read down one post for that info.

Your analysis of the HIV thing is correct. So you get to stand downwind and get secondhand smoke.

YES Steel, IM JUST MESSING WITH YOU AND JungleWarrior.

NemoThe first prostitution conviction would be a 2nd degree misdemeanor. Next prostitution conviction would be a 1st degree misdemeanor. 3rd, and any subsequent prostitution convictions, would be 3rd degree felonies. Section 775 of the State Statutes explains this, definitions, sentencing, etc.

For some ladies 3 strikes come rapidly. Others, like backpack Barbie, avoid the prostitution convictions.

JungleWarrior
01-31-10, 17:56
Was needing some rellief, and been wanting to visit the new girl over at 73rd Madison. That girl is smoking hot. She doesn't have face pics showing in the ads but wow is all I have to say. That girl knows her way around a mans body. On the flip side, I did see a brand new girl that was there too. Not sure what her name is but if she is going to start working at 73rd. than I might go broke between her and Madison.

Old Skul
01-31-10, 18:58
Yeah but the arresting officer has the right to charge her with what they see fit. It all depends on the LEO mood at the time. I have seen cases in person, that people got arrested on a DWLSR when it was a Misd and they had no prior arrest records for ANYTHING, and it was their first time getting slapped with a DWLSR. I have also seen people who got charged with DWLSR and it was a felony and all they had to do was pay the ticket (brother got pulled over, given a DWLSR ticket and it was felony charge and paid his fine), and I have also seen people who got charged with a DWLSR and although not technically arrested, were still booked with "paperwork only" charge.

A third arrest for the same thing if there were 2 prior arrests for prostitution has nothing to do with that person until it goes to trial, and even then, a smart attorney can get that thrown out easily. Notice her arrest record. No prior prostitution arrest in Pinellas, Hills, Pasco, Polk or Manatee county. Is it possible she had 2 prior arrests in other counties? Maybe, but the arresting officer wouldn't know that until she was booked and charged.LEOs can, and often do, get the charges wrong, especially patrol officers who are hurriedly flipping through the Law Enforcement Handbook trying to find the right statute. Sometimes the choices they make can really leave you scratching your head. They also will stack charges, knowing that not all of them will hold up as the case winds through the system. And there is always officer discretion, which is why you might see one officer charge felony DWLSR while another might cut somebody a break and go with misdemeanor DWLSR, even though the circumstances are very similar.

(By the way, the LEO usually knows about a person's previous arrests within a few minutes of making contact. He can call into dispatch for a statewide/national history check, or most agencies have mobile data terminals in their vehicles now that will give him the same info.)

But keep in mind that it's not really LE that OFFICIALLY charges a person with a criminal offense. Once an LEO makes an arrest, an intake prosecutor at the SAO will assess the case and decide, based on the available evidence, which charges can be supported and which cannot. The SAO then files an "information," which is the official charging document. It's very common for the charges contained in the information to be different from those in the original arrest.

Those charges probably are going to change further as the ASA and defense attorney start negotiating, depending on the strength of the state's case. That's why you might see a DUI get dropped down to a reckless driving, or an agg battery get dropped to a simple battery in exchange for a plea.

There's more leeway in the system than you might think, and it all depends on how much of a hardass the agency or the individual wants to be. Some go balls to the wall on violent crime and take a more lenient approach to "quality of life" crimes like prostitution. Some LEOs/prosecutors, or their entire agencies, see themselves as society's avenging angels and want to put everyone away for as long as possible on any violation.

SteelThunder
02-01-10, 01:00
No smoke,for you either Steel.
Your analysis of the HIV thing is correct. So you get to stand downwind and get secondhand smoke.

YES Steel, IM JUST MESSING WITH YOU AND JungleWarrior.

Nemo

Being a hobbyist, we all have to be able to enjoy the secondhand stuff as long as its a good cigar. Gotta stay away from the stinky ones.

Nemodc
02-01-10, 01:06
CAPS ARE ADDED BY ME TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC POINTS
Nemo


Yeah but the arresting officer has the right to charge her with what they see fit.

NOT SO MUCH. THE COP BRINGS THE INITIAL CHARGE THAT HE THINKS IS PROPER. HE HAS NO RIGHT TO CHARGE ANYTHING AND CAN ONLY CHARGE WHAT HE BELIEVES THE PROBABLE CAUSE SUPPORTS. THE STATES ATTORNEY REVIEWS THAT. IF HE/SHE DEEMS PROPER THEY REDUCE, AMENDS, ENHANCES, DISMISS OR WHATEVER HE/SHE DECIDES IS APPROPRIATE.

It all depends on the LEO mood at the time. I have seen cases in person, that people got arrested on a DWLSR when it was a Misd and they had no prior arrest records for ANYTHING, and it was their first time getting slapped with a DWLSR. I have also seen people who got charged with DWLSR and it was a felony and all they had to do was pay the ticket (brother got pulled over, given a DWLSR ticket and it was felony charge and paid his fine), and I have also seen people who got charged with a DWLSR and although not technically arrested, were still booked with "paperwork only" charge.

ANYTIME A COP PUTS YOU IN A SITUATION WHERE "A REASONABLE PERSON WOULD NOT FEEL FREE TO LEAVE" THAT PERSON IS IN CUSTODY. THAT IS THE LEGAL DEFINITION. THE REST IS FAIRLY ACCURATE. THE COP GENERALLY DECIDES HOW TO FILE THE CHARGES, WHETHER BY CUSTODIAL ARREST, SUMMONS, NOTICE TO APPEAR OR WHATEVER. IN SOME CASES THERE ARE "MUST BE CUSTODIAL" REQUIREMENTS. DOMESTIC BATTERY IS THE PRIME EXAMPLE.

A third arrest for the same thing if there were 2 prior arrests for prostitution has nothing to do with that person until it goes to trial, and even then, a smart attorney can get that thrown out easily.

EASILY? NOT SO MUCH. IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH HEADACHE THE STATES ATTORNEY WANTS TO BE. IF HE WANTS TO SEND THE LETTERS OR MAKE THE CALLS TO GET THE PAPERWORK-- AND GETS THEM, ITS DAYUM TOUGH TO AVOID THE EHNANCEMENT IF THE CURRENT CASE HAS ALL THE ELEMENTS PROVABLE. SIMPLY BECAUSE THE PRIORS ARE PROVEN WITH THE PAPERWORK.

Notice her arrest record. No prior prostitution arrest in Pinellas, Hills, Pasco, Polk or Manatee county. Is it possible she had 2 prior arrests in other counties? Maybe, but the arresting officer wouldn't know that until she was booked and charged.

YOU THINK A COP CANNOT GET A CRIMINAL HISTORY CHECK DONE BY RADIO AT THE SCENE? WITH IDENTIFYING INFORMATION A NATIONAL CRIME INFORMATION COMPUTER (NCIC) CHECK CAN BE DONE IN ABOUT 30 SECONDS. I'M SURE THE FDLE HAS A SIMILAR SYSTEM ON A STATE BASIS. EVEN IF HE WAITED TO CHECK UNTIL SHE ARRIVED AT THE JAIL, YOU ARE NOT ACTUALLY CHARGED UNTIL THE INTAKE PROCEDURE IS COMPLETED. I AM CONFIDENT A LIVESCAN AND AFIS (AUTOMATED FINGERPRINT IDENTIFICATION SYSTEM) CHECK IS DONE PRIOR TO THAT SO THE CHARGES ARE FILED AS THE FELONY

Edgar Alan Ho
02-01-10, 22:19
Be careful of St pete pigs.

Next time, quote Section 23 of Article 1 of the Florida State Constitution:

SECTION 23. Right of privacy.--Every natural person has the right to be let alone and free from governmental intrusion into the person's private life except as otherwise provided herein. This section shall not be construed to limit the public's right of access to public records and meetings as provided by law.

Shadow Rider X
02-02-10, 00:43
Was needing some rellief, and been wanting to visit the new girl over at 73rd Madison. That girl is smoking hot. She doesn't have face pics showing in the ads but wow is all I have to say. That girl knows her way around a mans body. On the flip side, I did see a brand new girl that was there too. Not sure what her name is but if she is going to start working at 73rd. than I might go broke between her and Madison.The owner of the shop had a friend of hers, who is also in the business, come in temporary, to help out. Her name is Tiny, she has very large boobs, that might have been who you saw. She was there on Friday, but may have come back for the weekend.

Old Skul
02-02-10, 17:51
This info is all nice and sweet but you can't control the environment if you are going inside a AMP, Aromatherapy shop, Lingerie shop. Sure you can park 2-3 blocks down the street and walk, but that's all you can do. Unless you are going to stop visiting these kinds of places, you have to becareful as you said.Actually, this is why I think mongers are much better off avoiding MPs and any other incall location and sticking to strip club take-out, independent outcall escorts or SWs, as a last resort. You cut your risk considerably that way. And, of course, only in a motel room that YOU select, never at a motel she recommends and never at your own home. Personally, I've never used my car, either.

JungleWarrior
02-05-10, 03:47
Actually, this is why I think mongers are much better off avoiding MPs and any other incall location and sticking to strip club take-out, independent outcall escorts or SWs, as a last resort. You cut your risk considerably that way. And, of course, only in a motel room that YOU select, never at a motel she recommends and never at your own home. Personally, I've never used my car, either.
a quick way to get throw out the club and blacklisted never to come back. Some people are good at picking up street walkers, some guys know how to pick up strippers, some are comfortable with escorts or UTR girls, and some people like MPs. Not everyone wants to pick up a SW or ask the wrong girl at a club, that leaves escorts.

JungleWarrior
02-05-10, 03:51
New girl, a young beauty, Lilly to start Monday 3PM shift.Lilly who starts on Monday, not Tiny. That is why i said I am going to go broke between her and Madison. She should be fun to try on monday. PM me for details after monday if you want to know.

http://tampa.backpage.com/BodyRubs/lilly-will-be-at-73rd-on-monday-come-see-our-newest-hottie/3251554

JungleWarrior
02-06-10, 11:45
http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-new-asian-delight-day-or-night-new-new-200-20/3250544

I wonder sometimes when the pictures are too hot it is too good to be true but this girl's pic look incredible. I'm low on funds this month but hoping to find out if she is a verified sure thing from someone who has the funds to TOFTT.I am willing to bet fake photos. The phone numbers goes back to another ad with the same phone number

http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/incall-incall-come-have-a-taste-of-the-good-stuff-gfe-incall-incall-incall-25/3075500

And that ads photos are obvious fakes and there was also a nother website's review also saying fake photos. I would pass. I have the funds, just not worth using them on an obvious fake.

Old Skul
02-06-10, 19:30
a quick way to get throw out the club and blacklisted never to come back. Some people are good at picking up street walkers, some guys know how to pick up strippers, some are comfortable with escorts or UTR girls, and some people like MPs. Not everyone wants to pick up a SW or ask the wrong girl at a club, that leaves escorts....what you see as acceptable risk. There's always going to be risk inherent in doing this (at least in these here Oppress-ed States), but I like to keep mine to an absolute minimum. That's why I don't do MPs or incall locations. I'd rather do without than run the risk of LE coming through the door mid-session, or worse, meeting me at the door. Not to mention, of course, the risk of the provider running some kind of Murphy game.

The two times that I've come close to being compromised have both involved going to someone else's location.

The first time was in '96 with an on-again, off-again provider I vaguely knew in Miami. I'd called to see if she would meet me at a motel (of my choosing) for a session, which would have been our first. She kind of blew me off, saying it was close to the holidays and she was getting ready to go out of town with family. A few weeks later, she called me out of the blue, all tense sounding, and made a point of repeating our previous conversation in great detail. She told me if I still wanted to "get together" I could come to her hotel (even though she had a house and I knew she did incall there). I said no and found out later that she'd gotten busted and was working off charges by setting up her clients for a sting.

The second was about 10 years ago at a lingerie shop in Columbus, Ga. that was actually a LE sting. I realized it when the "provider" checked my DL, then left the room (presumably so she could pass on my name and DOB for a wants/warrants search). When she came back to ask what I wanted, she casually mentioned that since I was from out of town, I might not know there was a local ordinance against private "lap dancing." To that point, I hadn't done anything illegal and decided to leave. As she was walking me out, she made a point to loudly announce to the other "providers" and the guy manning the door that I should "come back any time that you JUST WANT TO TALK again."

By the way, strippers are not that difficult at all. Yes, asking some random dancer to blow you for a Jackson five minutes after you walk in the door is a good way to get tossed and banned. It's also crude and an asshole move. At best, you're going to look like one more tool of the 10,000 tools that she has to deal with regularly. At worst, you're going to look like a clueless LEO.

You just have to be patient, subtle and respectful. You know, treat them like people that you value, instead of like sex automatons, the way many mongers seem to do. Visit the club a few times just get to know them. Follow the rules and tip well and don't expect anything. You'll quickly learn which ones are up for take-out and which aren't. Then, there's no problem if you casually and politely ask a dancer if she does any work outside the club. Hell, most of them will bring it up themselves.

My few mistakes aside, that's almost exclusively how I've met providers in the past, and still do on rare occasions, and I have never had a single problem. (Oh, and I'm not rich or good-looking.) The majority of the time, they say Yes, give great service, and don't ask for much money. When they do say No, it's no big deal. A few years ago, at a club outside D.C., a dancer turned me down, but then gave me a kiss and said "thank you...at least you asked nicely."

And always make sure you take real good care of the bartender, whether a man or woman. More than once, I've had strip-club bartenders return the favor by steering the right dancers to me.

JungleWarrior
02-07-10, 04:31
...what you see as acceptable risk. There's always going to be risk inherent in doing this (at least in these here Oppress-ed States), but I like to keep mine to an absolute minimum. That's why I don't do MPs or incall locations. I'd rather do without than run the risk of LE coming through the door mid-session, or worse, meeting me at the door. Not to mention, of course, the risk of the provider running some kind of Murphy game.

The two times that I've come close to being compromised have both involved going to someone else's location.

The first time was in '96 with an on-again, off-again provider I vaguely knew in Miami. I'd called to see if she would meet me at a motel (of my choosing) for a session, which would have been our first. She kind of blew me off, saying it was close to the holidays and she was getting ready to go out of town with family. A few weeks later, she called me out of the blue, all tense sounding, and made a point of repeating our previous conversation in great detail. She told me if I still wanted to "get together" I could come to her hotel (even though she had a house and I knew she did incall there). I said no and found out later that she'd gotten busted and was working off charges by setting up her clients for a sting.

The second was about 10 years ago at a lingerie shop in Columbus, Ga. that was actually a LE sting. I realized it when the "provider" checked my DL, then left the room (presumably so she could pass on my name and DOB for a wants/warrants search). When she came back to ask what I wanted, she casually mentioned that since I was from out of town, I might not know there was a local ordinance against private "lap dancing." To that point, I hadn't done anything illegal and decided to leave. As she was walking me out, she made a point to loudly announce to the other "providers" and the guy manning the door that I should "come back any time that you JUST WANT TO TALK again."

By the way, strippers are not that difficult at all. Yes, asking some random dancer to blow you for a Jackson five minutes after you walk in the door is a good way to get tossed and banned. It's also crude and an asshole move. At best, you're going to look like one more tool of the 10,000 tools that she has to deal with regularly. At worst, you're going to look like a clueless LEO.

You just have to be patient, subtle and respectful. You know, treat them like people that you value, instead of like sex automatons, the way many mongers seem to do. Visit the club a few times just get to know them. Follow the rules and tip well and don't expect anything. You'll quickly learn which ones are up for take-out and which aren't. Then, there's no problem if you casually and politely ask a dancer if she does any work outside the club. Hell, most of them will bring it up themselves.

My few mistakes aside, that's almost exclusively how I've met providers in the past, and still do on rare occasions, and I have never had a single problem. (Oh, and I'm not rich or good-looking.) The majority of the time, they say Yes, give great service, and don't ask for much money. When they do say No, it's no big deal. A few years ago, at a club outside D.C., a dancer turned me down, but then gave me a kiss and said "thank you...at least you asked nicely."

And always make sure you take real good care of the bartender, whether a man or woman. More than once, I've had strip-club bartenders return the favor by steering the right dancers to me.That is useful information. My only problem is, you are playing crap-shoots. What if you repeated visits don't pay off, and you spend that on door fees, lapdances, drinks, etc?

Reaper400
02-07-10, 11:56
Lilly who starts on Monday, not Tiny. That is why i said I am going to go broke between her and Madison. She should be fun to try on monday. PM me for details after monday if you want to know.

http://tampa.backpage.com/BodyRubs/lilly-will-be-at-73rd-on-monday-come-see-our-newest-hottie/3251554If that chick is a real gfe, heaven help anyone in front of me heading to the bank.

My gut says not but if so!

Malabar
02-07-10, 16:51
Lilly who starts on Monday, not Tiny. That is why i said I am going to go broke between her and Madison. She should be fun to try on monday. PM me for details after monday if you want to know.

http://tampa.backpage.com/BodyRubs/lilly-will-be-at-73rd-on-monday-come-see-our-newest-hottie/3251554

I live on the east coast and I'd road-trip for THAT !!!

WOW

Mal

Old Skul
02-07-10, 17:48
That is useful information. My only problem is, you are playing crap-shoots. What if you repeated visits don't pay off, and you spend that on door fees, lapdances, drinks, etc?You are taking the chance that there won't be a pay-off. But personally, I've found that rewards far outweigh that risk. What's worked for me is this:

1) Avoid the high-end clubs. Although the dancers are usually 8-10s, they're working to make as much as they can as fast as they can, and they're used to guys who can drop 1K a night without blinking. Stick to the mid-range and dive bars, where the dancers are 5-8s, and the occasional 9/10. They tend to be friendlier and not as dollar-focused, and they respond very well to respectful treatment.

2) Go on the club's off nights, like Mondays, Tuesdays or Wednesdays. And go during the day shift, if possible. The club will be much slower, so you'll have more time to just relax and chat up the dancers. You'll also spend a lot less than when the club is packed and the cash is flowing.

3) Be casual. Listen to what they have to say, talk to them, laugh, tell jokes. Don't use a bunch of stupid sexual innuendoes, the way guys tend to. They know you're hot for women, or you wouldn't be there. In short, just be a real, genuine person having a good time. Yes, you'll have to listen to a lot of inane BS, but you'll be surprised how quickly the dancers stop giving you that stripper robot approach and start treating you like a welcome regular.

4) Don't be shy or the dancers will make you for a rube or LEO. But at the same time, don't get all grabby or act like they're just there to service you. The golden rule is don't touch a dancer until she touches you first. And then make your touch slightly less familiar than hers. In other words, if she puts an arm around your shoulders, put your hand very lightly on the middle of her back. If she puts her hand on your thigh, put your arm lightly on her waist. This communicates that you are letting her call the shots, physically. It also lets her know that you can control yourself (and aren't easily manipulated) and that she's safe with you.

Pay close attention to what she's comfortable with. She'll give you signals. Smiling, leaning into your touch, moving her hands on you more. Some will grab your hands and put them where they want them. But NEVER touch her ass or boobs without clear indications that's OK, and NEVER, EVER touch her pussy unless she's made it VERY clear she's cool with that. On the other hand, if she grabs your package, well, then, she's making it kinda clear what's up. Above everything, remember to ALWAYS keep your touch slow and light until it's time to do otherwise.

5) Be prepared to spend some money upfront without getting anything in return for it. It will almost always pay off in the long run, and you'll end up getting far more in return than you actually spent.

Go to a slow club on a slow day or night, pick out a dancer you like, who seems cool, then give her $100 and spend a few hours just hanging out, not even getting dances. You don't want her to think you're a dumbass, just giving money away, so just say something like, "You know, I just feel like hanging out, so why don't you take a break. You can give me some great dances next time. " In her mind, she'll owe you for being so cool, and she'll likely reciprocate on a larger scale than what you did.

For example, one afternoon, I met a dancer at a club in Miami. She was in the middle of her shift and had a wicked headache. I went to the store, got her some aspirin, then came back and just sat with her leaning against me, instead of getting lap dances, for the rest of her shift. Before I left, I tipped her. She said, "The next time you come in, I'm going to do something sooo nice for you. " Sure enough, next time, she gave me a first-class BJ (for nothing) and her phone number. And from then on, I'd call her, we'd meet and she'd spend the night with me. I'd give her whatever I had, never more than $75 or $100 for the whole night, and that was fine with her. A few times, when I was light, she didn't even ask for cash.

(Other things you can do: Sit at the bar with her all night and STILL tip as if you went to VIP; give her a ride home and DON'T ask to come in; tip extra for a lap dance that DIDN'T include extras. Basically anything where you do something nice for her without expecting something in return. Doing that usually seems to move you out of being a straight "customer" and into being a decent guy she wouldn't mind fucking at the slightest incentive, like a few bucks.)

6) NEVER buy her gifts like lingerie, flowers, CDs, etc. And NEVER loan her money. There's a big difference between doing something cool without expectation of immediate return and fawning over her like some guy who's never had pussy. One will have her feeling like she wants to do something really nice for you in return, and the other will let her know that you are a dweeb who can be taken advantage of.

7) Some dancers will be extremely open about the possibility of take-out (was in a place in Georgia once where the dancer was about 90 seconds into a lap dance and said "why don't we go to your room and fuck. " turned out to be $150 well spent), but many others will just drop hints, so you'll have to listen for them. These include:

Where do you live/where are you staying?

I live in/am staying at. Do you know where that is?

Do you have a wife/girlfriend?

How late do you stay up?

What do you do when you aren't here?

I'm thinking about leaving early tonight.

I met this guy here and we went/did/whatever.

Too bad we don't have more privacy.

My rent's due next week and I need to make some extra money.

Of course, it all depends on the context in which she asks these questions or makes these statements, so don't automatically assume that she's offering take-out.

8) Once you find two or three good clubs and make yourself known in them, stick to those places. You'll still get variety as new dancers cycle in and out, but you'll have all the perks that come with being a regular, including good word of mouth among the dancers. You can count on always having at least a few dancers willing to give you great service OTC for relatively little. One note: Even though you're a regular, NEVER get involved in disputes between dancers, waittresses, DJs, bartenders, managers, etc. Bar business is bar business, and your business is your business. The two do not mix.

9) If any dancer/group of dancers ever suggest you go have breakfast with them or go out drinking with them after the club closes. GO!

(Hope this helps. At some point, we should probably move it to the strip club thread.)

JungleWarrior
02-08-10, 03:38
http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/legs-and-mouth-wide-open-you-ready-to-shoot-your-team-in-my-touchdown-zones/3169275

I like her creativity.

She looks like a freak in the sheets!Give her a try. She was worth it. Very gfe, willing to please and sweet girl.

JungleWarrior
02-08-10, 03:45
If that chick is a real gfe, heaven help anyone in front of me heading to the bank.

My gut says not but if so!I think i responded to the other thread, cant remember if it was you asking but she is gfe. DATY, LFK/DFK on menu, bbbj, multipop in the hour, only 1 for half hour, no rushing.

JungleWarrior
02-08-10, 11:51
I like her a lot. She'll wear you out.I second that, she is gfe and will wear you out and has a fun personality to her.

Reaper400
02-08-10, 20:46
I second that, she is gfe and will wear you out and has a fun personality to her.Your talking about that lily chick?

Shit I am there.

JungleWarrior
02-09-10, 19:06
Your talking about that lily chick?

Shit I am there.Not lilly but in response to Elisha. Unfortunately that lilly chick chickened out and never showed up to work yesterday. I knew that girl was too good to be true and had no experience in this industry when I seen her interviewing the other day when I was there (see previous post about spotting her).

Oh well. Still had a wonderful session with Madison yesterday.

JungleWarrior
02-09-10, 19:15
http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-brunette-ready-to-play-cum-get-it-24/3275001

She was working at "Babydolls" on 19. I was not all that impressed with her there, althought I did not give her a try either. ( Pill head).

Looks like she is staying just down the street from the club where she was working. Suburban Lodge. She was often in the company of the dealers there at "Babydolls", and that makes me a bit nervous.Been wanting to see that girl too but there's just a bad vibe about her..can't explain it. Would explain why no reviews have surfaced yet. People are worried about TOFTT.

JungleWarrior
02-11-10, 00:42
Seniors only... I found a little Russian Spinner just south of the Skyway.
PM for details.

TravelrrWhats this russians going rate? age, looks, phone number.

Reaper400
02-11-10, 21:16
Not lilly but in response to Elisha. Unfortunately that lilly chick chickened out and never showed up to work yesterday. I knew that girl was too good to be true and had no experience in this industry when I seen her interviewing the other day when I was there (see previous post about spotting her).

Oh well. Still had a wonderful session with Madison yesterday.No what a lost opportunity.

JungleWarrior
02-13-10, 12:27
I haven't seen her, but I have exchanged pleasantries by email with her. Just couldn't get a time to get together. She works with a couple of people I have seen though, so I think it's safe to say she's safe and legitimate. No idea if she's any good or not though.Sent you a response about this girl. She has been discussed here before.

JungleWarrior
02-13-10, 12:28
Just got this in a email.
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Hi Guys, I’m Sky and I’m new to this so bare with me. I’m 29, 5’6 103 lbs very petite and very fun to be with. I’d love a chance for you to come over today and take advantage of me and my special deal just for you. I’m right off of 275 and 54th ave South by the college in St. Pete. So Gove me a call xxx-xxx-xxx C U Soon Luv Sky
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Anyone else get this looks like a scam watch out.She is legit. She works with Karrie in South Tampa.

JungleWarrior
02-15-10, 19:35
So I finally had a chance to visit 73rd for the first time. Madison was my attendant and I had a great time. Now that I've been, I'm a little mystified by some of the anti-73rd posts I've seen here. The place had a nice atmosphere, and everyone was pleasant and friendly. I especially appreciate that they appear to be smoke free.

I miss the TS of an AMP, and had at least minor concerns about how often the "table cloth" gets changed, but other than that I don't think I could come up with a compaint.

Madison is definitely a cutie and worth a repeat visit, but I think I'd also like to catch Cameron and Grace sometime. I'll RTFF a bit and see who else you all recommend (besides Madison whom I chose based on pics and your recommendations here -- thanks guys!).Madison and Cameron are worth trying, I havent sampled grace but one I sampled and had a great time with is Saundra, the latina girl. I think she is cuban or columbian, but her ass is phenomenal.

JungleWarrior
02-15-10, 20:32
First stop, badda bing on Ulmerton (old showgirls club). 3 total strippers there, maybe 4-5 guys..completely dead.

Headed on to babydolls. Again, below average crowd, nothing really going on. No extras available with the new talent they have.

Last stop was the playpen, a new club on Rosevelt, 2 strippers, one of them being the bartender (haha), and only the 1 stripper danced. There was only 1 other guy in the club (wow)

Headed to bare assests, nice enough crowd, limited talent and looks, thought about calling it a night but decided to hit Emperors.

Headed to Emperors. Meet a tall, slender blonde with nice 40D's on her. Goes by the stage name Alley, real name Heidi. Said she used to dance in Dallas and recently moved here. Hinted at extras. Went back, 2 lap dances at 40 a piece. bbbj on first song, fs on second song.

Got digits from her, taking her out this weekend for what could be a promising LTR (possible live in) since she lives in a hotel at the moment.

SmackThatAss
02-16-10, 07:51
Do you think its a good idea to have a known stripper as a gf? You can't make a ho a housewife is very true statement. They are good for a tumble in the sack but really who would want her for anything else.





First stop, badda bing on Ulmerton (old showgirls club). 3 total strippers there, maybe 4-5 guys..completely dead.

Headed on to babydolls. Again, below average crowd, nothing really going on. No extras available with the new talent they have.

Last stop was the playpen, a new club on Rosevelt, 2 strippers, one of them being the bartender (haha), and only the 1 stripper danced. There was only 1 other guy in the club (wow)

Headed to bare assests, nice enough crowd, limited talent and looks, thought about calling it a night but decided to hit Emperors.

Headed to Emperors. Meet a tall, slender blonde with nice 40D's on her. Goes by the stage name Alley, real name Heidi. Said she used to dance in Dallas and recently moved here. Hinted at extras. Went back, 2 lap dances at 40 a piece. bbbj on first song, fs on second song.

Got digits from her, taking her out this weekend for what could be a promising LTR (possible live in) since she lives in a hotel at the moment.

Bushluver
02-16-10, 09:23
Sent you a response about this girl. She has been discussed here before.

I searched and couldn't find anything about her. Care to share what you know with me?

Thanks,
Bush

Tucker40
02-18-10, 00:39
I have never heard the club checking your money before you go in. I can see you giving the bartender or waitress a 100 dollar bill and her marking it at the bar or coming back with your change after she had the bartender check it, but I have never heard of a club checking your money at the door.

Stop at Ybor Strip, pay with a $20 and watch as the girl at the door takes your bill and runs some sort of marker over it used for just that purpose, then put it in the drawer and give you your change. Others use blacklights (believe the Mons does that at its cash register, right at the door, usually manned by the house mom, with the bouncer within a couple steps.) I've never heard of a club NOT checking $20s and up when you hand them over.

JungleWarrior
02-18-10, 16:02
the point is not to have her as a gf but as a LTR live in and get some extra fun on the side. She doesn't have a car so she would need to be picked up and dropped off, so i am willing to bet she will reward me for the help :)

We will see how it plays out.

Tucker40 i was implying they may check your door fee if you hand them a 20, thats fine, but the comment i was making was, i could slip a real 20 to the door girl and still pull out a roll of fake 20s once in the club.

JungleWarrior
02-18-10, 16:32
It is not the first time TG/FT has been closed before during normal working hours. I recall going there a few weeks ago. I got there at 4:30 pm (TG that is) and they had the "we will be back at such and such time clock" hanging on the door and it said 6:30pm. I couldn't understand why you would be gone for 2 hours (or even more because they could have left before i even got there at 4:30).

It was apparent no one was in the office because no one answered the door or phone when I knocked. Luckily 73rd isn't that far away when the need arises. Cindy needs to get her shops in-check because I am becoming less and less a fan of those 2 places.

Billsohorney
02-18-10, 18:40
First stop, badda bing on Ulmerton (old showgirls club). 3 total strippers there, maybe 4-5 guys..completely dead.

Headed on to babydolls. Again, below average crowd, nothing really going on. No extras available with the new talent they have.

Last stop was the playpen, a new club on Rosevelt, 2 strippers, one of them being the bartender (haha), and only the 1 stripper danced. There was only 1 other guy in the club (wow)

Headed to bare assests, nice enough crowd, limited talent and looks, thought about calling it a night but decided to hit Emperors.

Headed to Emperors. Meet a tall, slender blonde with nice 40D's on her. Goes by the stage name Alley, real name Heidi. Said she used to dance in Dallas and recently moved here. Hinted at extras. Went back, 2 lap dances at 40 a piece. bbbj on first song, fs on second song.

Got digits from her, taking her out this weekend for what could be a promising LTR (possible live in) since she lives in a hotel at the moment.




Since I was driving by Emperors and had not stopped by since the name change I decided to check it out.

What I found was a nice club with 4 girls working / 3 that i recognised from Bare Assets, ordered a beer and tipped the girl on stage whom I recognised from BA and then she came by to thank me, next thing I know we are in a private room and I am getting a great BBBJ/Cim for $. she tells me this service is avail from most on days.

Got to love it. ill be back.

Check it out brothers

JungleWarrior
02-20-10, 06:44
Wow!! absolutely and totally HOT! And sweet, oh my god. I got a session and I sincerely wished I had opted for a longer one!! She's a total GFE, incredible intense body, soft gentle kisses, absolutely TASTY and OOOH SO tight! Guys for the 20 or 30 dollar fee and the $ tip, she's totally worth it!! 34b/c breasts, tight ass, beautiful eyes and face, guys I'm still in shock!Tasty? Kisses? Damn..Thanks for the info RJ, was planning on seeing a UTR massage girl this weekend but I think I might just try the new talent out at 73rd.

Is she better looking than her photos or about the same?

JungleWarrior
02-20-10, 06:48
Since I was driving by Emperors and had not stopped by since the name change I decided to check it out.

What I found was a nice club with 4 girls working / 3 that i recognised from Bare Assets, ordered a beer and tipped the girl on stage whom I recognised from BA and then she came by to thank me, next thing I know we are in a private room and I am getting a great BBBJ/Cim for $. she tells me this service is avail from most on days.

Got to love it. ill be back.

Check it out brothersDo you recall the girls name. I know it wasn't Heidi / Alley because she only works nights and since it was 4 girls working, it sounds like you went during day shift.

JungleWarrior
02-20-10, 10:14
I was going to go see abby, but when I went to her website and saw this photo she has on her http://www.providerhotspot.com, I decided to pass (I can't imagine looking at her stomach with that scar for more than a min before being grossed out). DO these girls not LOOK at the photos they are putting up?

http://www.providerhotspot.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_24bd6/aabby21.JPG

Abagail
02-20-10, 11:44
I was going to go see abby, but when I went to her website and saw this photo she has on her http://www.providerhotspot.com, I decided to pass (I can't imagine looking at her stomach with that scar for more than a min before being grossed out). DO these girls not LOOK at the photos they are putting up?

http://www.providerhotspot.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_24bd6/aabby21.JPGSorry to hear you feel that way sweetie! Most men are adult enough to know and understand that woman have children and some women have c-sections in my case I had a c-section and a tumor! But anyway not looking for sympathy from you so please don't take it that way!Just simply thought I would speak up and let you know that your in securities caused you to miss out on the time of your life that you would have never forgot! And even with my scar I'm still a very sexy very sensual woman who knows just how to please a man in a way that would leave him craving for more!And remember If I were like most ladies I could have just took it out of my pics but I am up front and honest and my reviews speak for themselves! I may not be your 18 or 21 year old with no kids and a perfect body but I am 100% positive that I am experienced and sexy enough to please just as good if not better than one of them!Any one is welcome to try some time with me and find that out! Or if they prefer another lady like you I am ok with that too! Really I just wanted you to know that your comment was honest and mine is too! Sorry you missed out!

Thanks! Abby

Billsohorney
02-20-10, 20:46
Do you recall the girls name. I know it wasn't Heidi / Alley because she only works nights and since it was 4 girls working, it sounds like you went during day shift.


No sorry I did not get her name, but if you ever frequented Bare Assets she was the tall busty girl who alway wore the cowgirl hat . was always good for bbbj or fs in the back then / tended to the older gents .

JungleWarrior
02-21-10, 11:51
Sorry to hear you feel that way sweetie! Most men are adult enough to know and understand that woman have children and some women have c-sections in my case I had a c-section and a tumor! But anyway not looking for sympathy from you so please don't take it that way!Just simply thought I would speak up and let you know that your in securities caused you to miss out on the time of your life that you would have never forgot! And even with my scar I'm still a very sexy very sensual woman who knows just how to please a man in a way that would leave him craving for more!And remember If I were like most ladies I could have just took it out of my pics but I am up front and honest and my reviews speak for themselves! I may not be your 18 or 21 year old with no kids and a perfect body but I am 100% positive that I am experienced and sexy enough to please just as good if not better than one of them!Any one is welcome to try some time with me and find that out! Or if they prefer another lady like you I am ok with that too! Really I just wanted you to know that your comment was honest and mine is too! Sorry you missed out!

Thanks! AbbyJust like providers dont like seeing certain guys, hobbyist dont like seeing certain girls for whatever reason. I am sure you probably encountered some guys who are TRUE FREAKS in this industry that the only way they can get laid is by paying for it because no girl wants to be seen in public with them. Perhaps someone whose face is half burned? Someone who has a car accident and missing an eyeball. Its kinda the same situation.

I am not saying you aren't a nice person. You probably are, but my main point was, I would be thinking about it the whole time. It would be no different than a woman who had a boob job and the doctor screwed it up ad it was noticeable and her boob was.....crooked lol.

Billsohorney
02-21-10, 12:00
I was going to go see abby, but when I went to her website and saw this photo she has on her http://www.providerhotspot.com, I decided to pass (I can't imagine looking at her stomach with that scar for more than a min before being grossed out). DO these girls not LOOK at the photos they are putting up?

http://www.providerhotspot.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_24bd6/aabby21.JPG


I have seen Abby several times and always had a great time.

It will surely be your loss.

Tucker40
02-21-10, 13:33
I was going to go see abby, but when I went to her website and saw this photo she has on her http://www.providerhotspot.com, I decided to pass (I can't imagine looking at her stomach with that scar for more than a min before being grossed out). DO these girls not LOOK at the photos they are putting up?

http://www.providerhotspot.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_24bd6/aabby21.JPG

I'd say that Abby's willingness to post an honest photo is an indication that she's be a worthwhile visit. Beats the heck out of fake photos and surprise.

JungleWarrior
02-22-10, 09:23
Lindsey wasn't all that. Eleshia is the one that smacks the best tail in town. Winder her up and let her tally wag all over the room for just a few bucks. I have recently learned that some of the girls will do outcalls you just have to keep it on the down-low. You get more bang for your buck outside the hooker parlor than you do inside. Do Not post who these girls are so they don't get in trouble. I was told not to post there names.Why would you get introuble? The majority of the girls that work at 73rd already have ads as independents? Lauren, Cameron, Eleisha have ads on backpage as Indies. That's nothing new?

JungleWarrior
02-22-10, 09:27
I'd say that Abby's willingness to post an honest photo is an indication that she's be a worthwhile visit. Beats the heck out of fake photos and surprise.It could be that she posted the photo not thinking clearly and that was the only thing she could come up with. Come on now, dont jump down my throat just because I have no inclination to see her at this point. If its my loss, it's my loss..so be it...it is MY MONEY in the end now isn't it?

Jasper123
02-22-10, 20:40
It could be that she posted the photo not thinking clearly and that was the only thing she could come up with. Come on now, dont jump down my throat just because I have no inclination to see her at this point. If its my loss, it's my loss..so be it...it is MY MONEY in the end now isn't it?

No one is judging you, JW. See who you want. No one here cares.

Hell, there are plenty of women on CL/BP I will never see, because I do not find them attractive. Alicia the BBW would be one, even though she has had good reports and seems to be a very sweet girl. There are some ladies there I would not see for free. One or two you could not pay me enough to see. There is one in particular who has posted a few photos I wish I could forget I ever saw.

But I would rather not see these ladies than see them and be unpleasantly surprised, so I appreciate their honesty.

Abagail
02-23-10, 14:24
It could be that she posted the photo not thinking clearly and that was the only thing she could come up with. Come on now, don't jump down my throat just because I have no inclination to see her at this point. If its my loss, it's my loss. So be it. It is MY MONEY in the end now isn't it?Believe me sweetie I was thinking just fine the fact that I have a c-section scar does not bother most men! And I have been in this buisness for 8 or 9 years and never not once tried to hide my scar from my clients if you were to ever see me in person you would understand I don't need to hide it! I understand your point in being un comfortable with it! I am by no way angered by it I am secure In my looks and you would have came to see me if you would not have none that I had a child because you even said so your self! LOL! Any way I'm hot and I know it LOL just joking! Sweetie I am perfectly ok with you not seeing me! I only hope that you never marry or have kids because your wife might not appreciate your view point when she has a child! But I have always been one to say to each there own! Hell there are a few ladies I won't see my self! We all have our own taste and personalites thats what makes us unique! But I would suggest to you that if your going to try to point out a fault on a woman then you should speak with a little less harshness and a little more class! Like say maybe I was going to see Abby but realized that she had a c-section and that would have made me uncomfortable so I passed! Instead you decided to try to be a dick about! Sorry but thats how I took your wording sweetie! I have been working in the tampa area for some time now taking breaks here and there and have never tried to hide my apperance because if some one comes to see me I want them to be comfortable and truely enjoy there time because if you don't then I can't enjoy my time with you and thats no fun for any body! Exspecially me since I am a very intimate person who loves to kiss and feel and touch LOL! I really like what I do! I want my clients to leave pleased so I would much rather you pass me by then have a bad time! I don't know or concern myself with who you see or don't see I just know that I am very open and honest and some say very sweet and have no intentions on miss leading my clients in any way! If that means someone like you chooses to not see me then that really is better for me because I want to enjoy my time spent with my clients as much as they want to enjoy it!

Abagail
02-23-10, 21:26
It could be that she posted the photo not thinking clearly and that was the only thing she could come up with. Come on now, dont jump down my throat just because I have no inclination to see her at this point. If its my loss, it's my loss..so be it...it is MY MONEY in the end now isn't it?Sweetie you are very correct in saying that in the end its your money and your time so it is your choice! Hell I've meet ladies I would'nt sleep with!lol! But you are wrong in saying I was mistaken in putting the picture up! I have never not once since starting in the buisness posted a fake pic or one that I did'nt want any one to see that is not the first pic I have posted showing my scar! Because with or without it I'm still a very attractive lady! I'm hot and I know it! lol just joking! Any way my point was not to seem as if I were judging you even though my personal feelings on the matter are that I hope your wife or significant other never has childern because she might disagree on your view point ! My only issue was the way you addressed it! You were kinda a Dick about it! I have always been one who believed in treat others how you want to be treated you could have simply stated that you were coming to see me then realized that I had a scar and changed your mind but the way you went about was more like you were trying to degrade me or belittle me so I spoke up only to let you know that I am secure in my looks and my abilities 100 % ! See I would rather you have passed then to have not enjoyed your time! I enjoy what I do and if your not enjoying yourself then I can't enjoy myself which would be good for no one and is never what I want for any client of mine! This is supposed to be a pleasurable experience and I would much prefer you see another lady were you can experience such pleasure then waste either of our time on a dissappointing experience! Exspecially since I am a provider who enjoys kissing and mutual rubbing touch and so on if some one were not comfortable well it would just suck for us both! So please don't think I was upset by your choice just in the way you voiced it thats all! And just to prove it heres one more justt to gross you out and prove to you that I have nothing to fear by my scar or my pics!

JungleWarrior
02-24-10, 02:22
Let me make this clear. I Don't Care, Enough already. Get off your drama soap box, and go find a gloryhole or 2 and work them for the night.

Damn.

Abagail
02-24-10, 10:53
Let me make this clear. I Don't Care, Enough already. Get off your drama soap box, and go find a gloryhole or 2 and work them for the night.

Damn.You know I was actually trying to be nice and civil but since I can tell by your Post you are just a natural born jerk! Then I'll I have to say is you cared enough to write the damn post so if any should lay off the drama its you and hell apparentley you are the one who needs to find the gloryhole because your the one with the problem not me I stated It was fine . But I see you just enjoy being a dick so carry on "dick boy"!

JungleWarrior
02-25-10, 01:22
You know I was actually trying to be nice and civil but since I can tell by your Post you are just a natural born jerk! Then I'll I have to say is you cared enough to write the damn post so if any should lay off the drama its you and hell apparentley you are the one who needs to find the gloryhole because your the one with the problem not me I stated It was fine . But I see you just enjoy being a dick so carry on "dick boy"!Your 2 previous posts were both "Oh sweetie, I am not mad at you blah blah blah, its your right", than you come back with a backhanded insult, than you are back to "Oh sweetie, I am not mad at you blah blah blah, its your right" than more backhanded insults.

Prime example:

Sweetie you are very correct in saying that in the end its your money and your time so it is your choice!

Than you come back and say this:

Any way my point was not to seem as if I were judging you

If you are not judging me, than respect the fact I DO NOT want to spend it on you and realize IT'S MY MONEY. I don't care if other members on here want to see you and spend their hard earned cash on you. That's NOT me. Don't get pissy with me just because I spoke my mind.

Abagail
02-25-10, 14:04
Your 2 previous posts were both "Oh sweetie, I am not mad at you blah blah blah, its your right", than you come back with a backhanded insult, than you are back to "Oh sweetie, I am not mad at you blah blah blah, its your right" than more backhanded insults.Sweetie to be quite honest I dont give a fuck who you spend your money on your a true dick the kind of client ladies dread dealing with and you would have never made it through my screening process any way ! So chances are you would have never seen me any way! I am truely glad I did not have to meet you or deal with you I prefer mature gentlemen with manners and some home raising which is apparent you have neither of! As far as your money goes do what you want with it you are sadly mistaken if you think I need your money ! I do just fine thanks and hey guess what I have been doing just fine more many years! lol! And never once has that been due to you so please don't make it sound like any one needs your money you can stable a grand to your dick and I would not touch it! Maybe you are just used to trashy ladies who dont mind taking your shit! All I can say is im glad theres some one who can tolerate you!Lol ! And any one who has spent time with knows I am a very down to earth sweet lady but dont take that for weakness because as long as you wish to continue talking shit then I will continue to speak out against you !Sorry thems the facts the best solution would seem to be that you just do not say any thing else there for I wont have to. That would please me but I guess your like a drama junkie or something who knows! And I was not judging you I truely dont give a care who you see I was only defending my self when you tried to speak out the side of your dumb ass neck about me! So basiclly if you did not want a response you should have just been a decent person and not tried to belittle someone for no reason! If you dont like me speaking up then just shut the hell up about it no one really cares any way! Not me or any one else! And again sweetie I never not one time stated I was upset because you did not see me so please stop trying to fake like that was the issue when the only issue was your comment as far as your money goes Trust me sweetie I am the last lady that needs your money! That being said have a great day! And lets allow everyone to enjoy this board with out your bullshit!

JungleWarrior
02-27-10, 01:14
You've got to remember that many of these ladies are not the brightest bulbs. Some think that low demand begets higher prices. Thinking seems to be "If I used to do 6 a day at $.5, but now I can only get 3 a day, my price is now $$$". Of course, I could be wrong and it could be that, despite the horrendous economic times, demand has doubled so she's upped her price. I'd bet on the first scenario, though.You have ever had a experience with her inside the shop or as a independent, otherwise you wouldn't make that statement. That's all I have to say. Those that have seen Cameron know what I am talking about.

JungleWarrior
02-27-10, 01:26
Some of you guys have NO room to chastize her for grammer OR rambling. Seriously?

I'm sure people can understand why women rarely want anything to do with this site as far as posting or just adding their .02.

If you want perfection expect to pay way more than .20 and I really believe half of you lie about the encounter - good or bad..

And Flapjackoff, you sound angry in your post. What's wrong? You're just jealous she makes more moolah than you! hahahaha

Ps. This Isn't Abbey.You need to go find another hobby abby because now you are acting childish and immature. I guess just because someone pointed out they did not want to see you because you had a big ole scar running across your stomach, you get all mad and defensive.

Don't call me sweetie, I am not your sweetie. And I could care less if I get pass your screening or not. Do you think I would give you my PERSONAL info let alone anything about me to screen. I remember seeing the drama that was caused by your in the past in the bay area before you left and although I did not know the whole story, was still interested in seeing you when you got back. When I seen your photos, you were crossed off my list, and now you are being put on my ignore list.

JungleWarrior
03-02-10, 04:49
Saw a SW last night (she has been mentioned here before but wont mention who she is), and it appears LE is using taxi's in Clevland/GTB area to monitor activity and when a possible scoop is going to happen from a cruising monger, the undercover LEO sitting in the taxi pretending to be a driver is giving a tip to the hideaway LE car.

Be careful out there.

JungleWarrior
03-05-10, 14:50
Yes, Ann is for real. Tall, slendor, beautiful, very nice and friendly. Great service. I highly recomend her.Was there a certain time of day to get ahold of her because I have called, texted, left voicemails, even emailed her off her ad, no response. Is there a certain time of day she works, doesn't work, etc? A little more info is helpful. PM if you want.

Cheesy Rider
03-05-10, 19:20
I was at babydolls last night hanging with a friend, and all of a sudden, you hear a fight outside. After all the hoopla died down, this is what was the confirmed story.

Some idiot monger went to the club last night, got 6 lap dances from some poor girl, gave her 20's for the dances. That's not including the multiple 1 dollar bills he tipped girls on stage. In total, they found about 350 dollars worth of counterfeit money passed by him.

As I am standing outside watching LE (about 9 police cruisers and unmarked vehicles) put this monger in the back of a po po car headed for the steelbar, a fight breaks out and all hell broke loose.

Moral of the story, don't mess with strippers and money. This guy had to be a moron to pass fake money to a stripper and really think a STRIPPER of all people wont know her money lol. They may be strippers but they are not dumb.

"She said, Hey that's fake money. I said, Yeah, those are fake titties".
- Larry the cable guy

Abagail
03-08-10, 00:09
Thank God for small favors!


You need to go find another hobby abby because now you are acting childish and immature. I guess just because someone pointed out they did not want to see you because you had a big ole scar running across your stomach, you get all mad and defensive.

Don't call me sweetie, I am not your sweetie. And I could care less if I get pass your screening or not. Do you think I would give you my PERSONAL info let alone anything about me to screen. I remember seeing the drama that was caused by your in the past in the bay area before you left and although I did not know the whole story, was still interested in seeing you when you got back. When I seen your photos, you were crossed off my list, and now you are being put on my ignore list.

JungleWarrior
03-11-10, 13:36
Not to belabor this any further, but the only recent charge Mandy (Ama Wya) has recently is a simple possession of paraphanalia charge - arrested on 3/2/10 and arraigned on 3/4/10. I don't see anything under the statute mentioned earlier at all. And this girl does not go unnoticed. she's been nailed about 20-25 times, mostly for possession, retail theft, disorderly conduct, etc.

Are we talking about the same girl?She has been arrested for possesion of coke and oxy's and drugs related items but the master list at the steelbar booking website and her photos doesn't indicate she is a crack user at least. Crack takes a big toll on you and she hasn't changed much over the years of her visits to the steelbar. She is actually still very cute.

JungleWarrior
03-13-10, 05:04
Website says they now do "mobile calls" - has anybody had any of these girls come visit them, either offsite at another location besides their office, or to them specifically?Where on the website does it say that?

JungleWarrior
03-14-10, 21:32
Thread starter

Dick Findaho
03-15-10, 13:43
Under the Radar Providers Thread starterDoesn't posting them in the thread make them on the radar?

JungleWarrior
03-16-10, 18:30
This may be the shortest thread ever!Simple rules to follow:

This is a place to post about UTR ladies who do NOT fall into the following categories:

1-NOT STREETWALKERS

2-NOT ESCORTS (meaning don't share info if she is on backpage, craaigslist,etc)

Who you share the info with is up to you. You can share it with senior members, you can share it with everyone, but under no condition do you publish the info publicly on this board and all info sharing is done through PM.

For example, you found the lady on sugar daddies for me or on girls seeking arrangements on backpage, or adult gigs on craigslist, etc etc. You get the hint.

You MUST obtain PERMISSION from the lady to share her information. Don't share info about a lady without her knowledge and have a member call her up and make her wonder "who the hell are you?"

Dick Findaho
03-18-10, 14:22
Simple rules to follow:

This is a place to post about UTR ladies who do NOT fall into the following categories:

1-NOT STREETWALKERS

2-NOT ESCORTS (meaning don't share info if she is on backpage, craaigslist,etc)

Who you share the info with is up to you. You can share it with senior members, you can share it with everyone, but under no condition do you publish the info publicly on this board and all info sharing is done through PM.

For example, you found the lady on sugar daddies for me or on girls seeking arrangements on backpage, or adult gigs on craigslist, etc etc. You get the hint.

You MUST obtain PERMISSION from the lady to share her information. Don't share info about a lady without her knowledge and have a member call her up and make her wonder "who the hell are you?"So you started a public thread for other members in order to tell fellow members to NOT post info publicly in the aforementioned thread about girls who may be under the radar? Ummm, I may be a bit groggy from St Patty's day, but thanks for the insight and for the list of all the rules that will make it acceptable for us to post in your new thread!

JungleWarrior
03-18-10, 23:10
So you started a public thread for other members in order to tell fellow members to NOT post info publicly in the aforementioned thread about girls who may be under the radar? Ummm, I may be a bit groggy from St Patty's day, but thanks for the insight and for the list of all the rules that will make it acceptable for us to post in your new thread!No problem. When you sober up, you will understand the meaning of this thread. If you are still confused when you sober up, and don't get it, and need me to hold your hand, you can pm me and I will explain it to you.

JungleWarrior
03-18-10, 23:14
Wasn't there a bust in Miami not too long ago with an RV or bus of some sort driving around town? My guess is that mobile and showers are two separate items, just confusing that they put in that order. Of course they have a shower if you have a shower.It is more than confusing. Maybe they mean they will use your shower, as their outcall. What happens when they come to your work for a quickie? Do they have an RV in that instance? Do they park the RV in your work parking lot and invite you into the RV?

Someone should really call and inquire cause I don't think I could keep myself from laughing at some of the possible answers to that mobile thing

The Lovemuscle
03-19-10, 15:50
No problem. When you sober up, you will understand the meaning of this thread. If you are still confused when you sober up, and don't get it, and need me to hold your hand, you can pm me and I will explain it to you.


that I'm already getting a headache.

Happy HOing anyway,
LM

JungleWarrior
03-19-10, 19:47
I sort of get it. There have been posts on other threads along the lines of "I met this girl on a chat line. She was great and only wanted $X. I asked her if she would let me give out her digits and she said yes. Senior members can PM me for details."

That was an example! Dont send me any PM's! I don't know any undercover providers!Glad to see common sense runs in your family.

Hopefully the rest will inherit the gene.

JungleWarrior
03-19-10, 19:53
Come on guys, seriously?? I've gone in a couple of times and there's no way I'd have a session with any of these women. We pay specifically for women we couldn't just pick up in 5 minutes at any of the local bars. Out of shape, old, and unattractive. They're also RUDE. NO thanks, I'll stick with Craigslist or 73rdIn TG/FT a few weeks back. I have to agree with you the selection at 73rd is much nicer and better. It's a shame to see the quality of girls being hired at this place. There is only 1 decent looking girl I would see, and thats the girl with the white top and low cut jean skirt...can't recall her name but she has a nice body and decent looking. Other than that, nothing really else appeals to me there.

JungleWarrior
03-21-10, 21:03
What a shame the owner of 73rd has to trash another establishment in the hope of getting more business. I will agree with her on one point: disgusting, ugly pigs, and trailer trash. That was my opinion the first (and only) time I walked into 73rd. I was met at the front counter by a girl with bad teeth, bad skin, and tattoos up and down her arm and across her chest. She was so horrible looking, if I saw her on the street I would not even stop. The shop itself was also kind of run down looking. I have never been to FT or TG but based on all the reviews it is a well run establishment with high caliber women and everyone has reported leaving happy.Gettinanut YOU are a douchbag and a moron. How can I be the owner of a shop, undercover, when I had posted about streetwalkers and escorts I seen? Now correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the shop owner of 73rd a FEMALE?

What is more apparent is this is CINDY undercover. How many aliases are you up to now? 10? Just because I stopped coming to your shop because of the quality of girls you have working, doesn't mean anything other than, you need to hire some better girls. Probably why you are so desperate for business, you have to throw up ads on backpage offering members of 73rd a 20 dollar discount.

Let me say it again. desperation at its finest.

SpeedRacer29, If you think I am the owner of 73rd, than make sure you put me on your ignore list (because you just got put on mine) and not come to me anymore through pm's asking me for backchannel information about my posts (cause I won't get them). God forbid you get that info from a "Female" (rolls eyes).

I do find it funny you attack the hottest girl working at 73rd though (cameron), who also has 3 pages of another site reviews and I find it more highly UNLIKELY you actually went into 73rd, because If I asked you some question about the inside of the shop, you would play dumb and roll out the "I don't remember" card or pm some members who have been in there and pass it off as your own.

Thats the problem with the internet, anyone can say anything about anyone these days. Just like someone could leave a bad review on a girl who refused to give him what they wanted and trash her reputation just to "teach her a lesson"

My 2 cents. Have fun responding back cause you are both on ignore.

JungleWarrior
03-21-10, 21:13
That anyone that speaks I'll of ft/tg, gets labeled "the shop owner of 73rd". Kinda like the old "if you bash a jew, you are anti-Semitic" labeling, and Cindy and her white knights come to her rescue.

It's funny how some people are on her payroll and wouldn't suprise me if some are getting free sessions in exchange for continuously painting that shop in a great light.

Sorry to burst your bubble that not all of us are sheep, and we actually have the balls to post HONEST opinion, which is what this forum was MEANT for. By making up stupid shit, you are only putting other hobbyist into a situation to have a bad experience, but hey, what do you care? As long as your pecker gets polished for a discount or free right?

JungleWarrior
03-22-10, 09:41
Any one seen her. She got my email and keep asking when I want to see her. If you want the digits pm me.She lives all the way in North Tampa. Townhome. We initially agreed on 40 bbbj, and 50 for bbbj swallow. Well when I got there, she was decent looking, probably a 5 to me, others she would score a high 8 or 9. Nothing wrong with her, she is attractive looking, just a little weird. She put on the condom, told her thats not what we agreed, but she said she does not do unsafe things.???

Its ok though because I got to nail her regardless and her pussy felt good and grabbing those asschees was nice. All she does is rcg, no cg. Dont know why? Maybe she doesnt want to look at you when she is being fucked. Who knows.

She texted me again today asking if i could come back and fuck her again. Would I? Yeah I would at 40 for cbj and fs and having those knockers to hold on to.

JungleWarrior
03-25-10, 01:21
that isn't exactly a safe environment.How does that have anything to do with a safe environment?

JungleWarrior
03-25-10, 01:24
If any of you guys have been seeing Christiana off CL you can now find her dirt cheap walking the street on 34st.

I think when I saw her ad she was getting like 150per hr and now I'm sure its better than half off since she looks warn down shuffling down the sidewalk.

Happy Hunting..I saw her tonight off 34th and 2nd North. Picked her up, and threw her back into the sea, when she said she would only do 30 cbj. Wasnt in the mood to argue with her. Don't wast you time with her.

R Consultant
03-26-10, 01:09
Well if you already have a shady massage parlor and if you think the cops don't know what goes on then you are one lost individual.

Since they have opened a new substation 3 blocks away and there main objective is to cut down on illegal things going on in the city near Park Blvd. You do the math and tell me you won't have more police traffic on the streets near Park Blvd.

I guess we can sit back and wait and see how long it takes before they start knocking on 73rd's door. Let's hope you aren't in there getting some raw dog service from one of Julies girls.

Happy Hunting..




How does that have anything to do with a safe environment?

R Consultant
03-26-10, 01:16
This girl has had a great following for years, she even ran with most of the girls that where well known back in the day.

She went upstate and did some time and has been back for awhile. You must have come across to her the wrong way. As I have never heard anyone complain about her.

Happy Hunting..


I saw her tonight off 34th and 2nd North. Picked her up, and threw her back into the sea, when she said she would only do 30 cbj. Wasnt in the mood to argue with her. Don't wast you time with her.

SteelThunder
03-26-10, 07:35
I saw her tonight off 34th and 2nd North. Picked her up, and threw her back into the sea, when she said she would only do 30 cbj. Wasnt in the mood to argue with her. Don't wast you time with her.

I never had her insist on the wrapper for her oral conversations. You must have caught her in a strange mood or something.

Best of luck and be safe.

JungleWarrior
03-26-10, 12:57
Well if you already have a shady massage parlor and if you think the cops don't know what goes on then you are one lost individual.

Since they have opened a new substation 3 blocks away and there main objective is to cut down on illegal things going on in the city near Park Blvd. You do the math and tell me you won't have more police traffic on the streets near Park Blvd.

I guess we can sit back and wait and see how long it takes before they start knocking on 73rd's door. Let's hope you aren't in there getting some raw dog service from one of Julies girls.

Happy Hunting..Speculation at this point. Isn't there a police station right smack in the middle of Nowatny area? Has that stopped people from cruising for street meat?? Isn't there also a police station about a 1 mile from Clevland/GTB intersect? Still hasn't deterred people from street meat.

Aren't you the one that has repeatedly said (and also backed up by Jackson) that local PD already knows what goes on in this establishment and every establishment in this area, be it AMP, Aromatherapy shop, streetwaker locations, etc? If they were going to shake this establishment down, they would have done it 2, 3, 5, 7 years ago. Last time I checked, 73rd has never been shaken down.

Same goes for FT/TG, considering TG sits on 4th st, which is a major street walking area than park blvd is, which is known for its occasional street walkers, unlike 4th st which is littered with street hos.

They didnt open up a substation to clean up the area, they opened it up because of the doughnut shop on the corner of 49th and Park blvd, you should know that Rcon.

JungleWarrior
03-26-10, 13:03
This girl has had a great following for years, she even ran with most of the girls that where well known back in the day.

She went upstate and did some time and has been back for awhile. You must have come across to her the wrong way. As I have never heard anyone complain about her.

Happy Hunting..We are talking about the same Kristina who was advertising on backpage a month or so ago thinking she was worth 150 for the half hour or hour (can't recall), right?

No offense man, but things change. You may have seen her a year or 2 ago, I dont know, but any girl that is advertising on backpage for 150 an hour, and a month later is street walking, obviously that is the biggest indication that things change rapidly.

Again, who knows, maybe I came across her wrong, or maybe she has changed her style since you last saw her.

Peter Rammer
03-26-10, 18:15
We are talking about the same Kristina who was advertising on backpage a month or so ago thinking she was worth 150 for the half hour or hour (can't recall), right?

No offense man, but things change. You may have seen her a year or 2 ago, I don't know, but any girl that is advertising on backpage for 150 an hour, and a month later is street walking, obviously that is the biggest indication that things change rapidly.

Again, who knows, maybe I came across her wrong, or maybe she has changed her style since you last saw her.Try to get BP/CL money and walk the streets as well. Some are just down on their luck, usually due to their addictions. In recent memory we've had Star or Kristen, Stephanie, Sara, Brooke (from Holiday), Anna and even Hott Diana walking. Best by far was Diana, but she only walked for about a month. Some of the girls have also been recycled from the topless clubs.

I had fun with Kristina, but not lately. She was once a steady Haines and

LaMark Charles provider.

SmackThatAss
03-26-10, 22:11
I guess your just so smart you call your local LE stations and ask if Julies 73rd Aroma therapy that provides sex for a fee has ever been busted? Ya sure you do, I just think you are real high on the bs scale. You must be Julie posing as a dude since most of the girls you talk about are not even real. Stop the games Julie.


Speculation at this point. Isn't there a police station right smack in the middle of Nowatny area? Has that stopped people from cruising for street meat?? Isn't there also a police station about a 1 mile from Clevland/GTB intersect? Still hasn't deterred people from street meat.

Aren't you the one that has repeatedly said (and also backed up by Jackson) that local PD already knows what goes on in this establishment and every establishment in this area, be it AMP, Aromatherapy shop, streetwaker locations, etc? If they were going to shake this establishment down, they would have done it 2, 3, 5, 7 years ago. Last time I checked, 73rd has never been shaken down.

Same goes for FT/TG, considering TG sits on 4th st, which is a major street walking area than park blvd is, which is known for its occasional street walkers, unlike 4th st which is littered with street hos.

They didnt open up a substation to clean up the area, they opened it up because of the doughnut shop on the corner of 49th and Park blvd, you should know that Rcon.

JungleWarrior
03-28-10, 14:54
I guess your just so smart you call your local LE stations and ask if Julies 73rd Aroma therapy that provides sex for a fee has ever been busted? Ya sure you do, I just think you are real high on the bs scale. You must be Julie posing as a dude since most of the girls you talk about are not even real. Stop the games Julie.That post makes you look like a moron and is going to make you look like a moron. You know why? I challange you to find ONE post. Just ONE. Not 2 or 3 but. ONE post that talks about a girl that is not real?

I know you can't be referring to LB or Aimee or Terry or China or Becky or any other street walker I have mentioned, and also passed on their info to other hobbyist who have thanked me, let alone mentioned by several senior members on this boards that they exist, but you are right. They aren't real

You are not talking about the backpage girls that people have asked about and I made comment to several of them, like the discreet meets of tampa bay. But you are right, they aren't real either.

What about the UTR girls that half this board pm'd me about, including RCON himself on one occasion, but hey guess she was not real either.

And one last thing, b/c I know you will end up looking like the moron I pointed out earlier due to the fact you won't be able to bring up 1 post about some "imaginary girl" that doesn't exist. If you don't think some guys in this industry don't do their research by finding out if a place has ever been busted before, than you are a noobie in this industry.

Simple rule of thumb for a rookie like you, since you obviously don't know this mongering rule. DON'T EVER go into a hotspot if you don't know what you are doing and feel comfortable doing it. Hotspots are known as prostitution areas (like streets, neighborshoods, etc) AMPs, aromatherapy places, etc

That means, if a place like a AMP has been shaken down twice, why go in their and risk being arrested, because they decided to come shake the place down the day YOU were there.

Add that rule to your playbook.

Not that you will be able to provide proof, but if you decide you want to continue with me on this topic, you have my pm, otherwise do to me like I did with Speedracer, put me on ignore if my BS scale is so high. I don't really care what a screen name on a message board thinks of me.

Now back to this threads original purpose.

JungleWarrior
03-28-10, 15:05
That third pic has been associated with 42 other websites.

MalThat second photo in that link is also for a Texas provider (can't recall what city she is in) named Riley Sinclair or something like that. That photo was posted by her on the another site discussions boards few months ago.

JungleWarrior
03-30-10, 06:30
Had a dream about Mya. Pretty face, dynamite all-natural body. Wonderful kisser. Hall of fame rack. Nip and navel jewelry and a few tats. No habla espanol. Will speak French without a translator, but could stand a few lessons, completes sentence in ASL. Vigorous and enthusiastic Friendly Service.Seems like you took my advice and checked her out and had fun :)

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=957702&postcount=2637

I saw her again this weekend.

JungleWarrior
03-30-10, 07:57
I just had a 1/2 hour session with Gia. Hot and right to business. Obviously used up a little bit, average looks, slightly sagging tits. But lots of noise and enthusiastic. Didn't want to do a BBBJ but easy enough to talk her into it. Won't repeat.Your post says you had a "good" time, describe the girl as "Hot", "enthusiastic" and did bbbj per your request, but you wont repeat? What am i missing here?

That's like going to a upscale 5 star resort, staying there, having a blast, than saying, I wont repeat.

JungleWarrior
04-01-10, 06:06
I posted this in the Sarasota form also but wanted to pass it on to anyone that travels this state like I do. I Was in Bradenton today so I thought I would try out the Aroma Spa on Cortez. I was thinking it would be similar to FT and TG in Pinellas. It isn't. I am out $20 for a 20 minunte light rub and crappy HJ. For less than that, you can go to FT or TG and leave very happy. Will not repeat.You are pissed and wont repeat because you spent 20 dollars on a hj? What the hell did you think you were gonna get for 20 bucks? The works?

JungleWarrior
04-01-10, 06:13
She texted me last night asking me to check and see if her ad was on backpage cause her friend posted an ad for her and she wanted to make sure it was done.

You can either email her and setup an appointment and get her digits that way or pm me for her digits. Again, she does cbj and is not gfe but still fun and has HUGE tits (read my post below)

http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/if-you-think-you-can-34/2509921

No Fucking Balls
04-01-10, 17:55
Is that $20 = $120


You are pissed and wont repeat because you spent 20 dollars on a hj? What the hell did you think you were gonna get for 20 bucks? The works?

SteelThunder
04-01-10, 20:06
I posted this in the Sarasota form also but wanted to pass it on to anyone that travels. I Was in Bradenton today so I thought I would try out the Aroma Spa on Cortez. I was thinking it would be similar to FT and TG in Pinellas. It isn't. I am out $20 for a 20 minunte light rub and crappy HJ. For less than that, you can go to FT or TG and leave very happy. Will not repeat.

Hahaha. You are pissed and wont repeat because you spent 20 dollars on a hj? What the hell did you think you were gonna get for 20 bucks? The works?
My guess is this guy forgot to add the other zero. At least that's the way I assumed it when I read post since I doubt people are leaving the other places very happy if they are spending $10 or $15. Otherwise they'd have longer lines waiting to get in than a Walmart has on Xmas eve.

JungleWarrior
04-02-10, 11:09
There's certain way to treat a woman. We all think that just because we are paying for it means we get to tell the ladies what we want and how we want it. It never works that way. In the end, we (men) have the money, and they (women) have the pussy, and pussy is much more powerful than money.

Now I have to agree, there seems to be a creepiness factor involved (no offense). I have had a sessions with Cameron, Madison and Lauren, and ALWAYS walked out with a smile on my face.

You know the girl likes you when you treat her with respect, and she walks you to the door, gives you that final kiss on the cheek, or final goodbye hug for treating her like a gentleman. You know she doesn't like you when she is trying to get you out the door because she just did not have as much fun with you because you were disrespectful and she didn't even bother to say "come back and see us again"

JungleWarrior
04-03-10, 00:43
Had a dream about juicy thick Apple from Backpage and CL.

Deffinetly a must see again.

Arrived a few minutes late, but no biggie. As she pulled up alone, just like she says.

Nice Huge soft 38DD apple s on her. Dressed a little to skimpy for my neighbors taste. But guess that was my fault.

She deffinetly took some pointers from a Hoover vac. Cause that broads got sum pipes on her. Made me blow my first load in seconds all over her face.

I loved it. Most girls a squimish. Didn't have to ask her where she wanted it. We chilled for a few. Then off to the bedroom and back on her knees.

Ended up popping off 3loads. Only regrett was no Bare f/s.

Well worth it for the 170.

I will check her out again.

Wasnt to Kein on emailing , but thats her choice Appleblossomx69@gmail
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ads/1672168032.htmlThis has bs written all over it. 3 loads? Come on. Even with Viagra pumped into your veins, you can't get off 3 loads. Anytime I read a report/review on a guy bragging about "3 loads" I know its pure bs and made up. 2 cups is believable..but 3 puts it in the bs category.

And assuming this actually took place, your only "regret" is she didn't offer bare fs? If she offered it to you, how many other guys has she done it with bare?

I ALWAYS tempt the provider with extra cash to see if she will do bareback fs. If she says yes, I tell her to leave and give her 40 dollars for her time and gas and send her on her way.

That's what I did with the following 2 ladies who agreed to bareback fs (so if you are after bareback, call these 2 ladies)

http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-want-to-do-that-again-21/3674799

Devine 813-401-5155 = agreed to do bareback fs for an hour for 400$

http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/100-me-julie-gfe-friendly-100-roses-special-hh-21/3669294

Julie 727-288-1402 = offered to do bareback fs for 200/half hour (this was thru texting back and forth. I never met her face to face like Devine)

JungleWarrior
04-03-10, 00:45
Today was payday, and they were running a special of 110 for 30 min which included the door fee. Couldn't pass that offer up and went in there and had fun. That girl is so hot, I wish she offered gfe outside the shop. Oh well.

JungleWarrior
04-03-10, 05:36
Ok, I have to revise my earlier review on her. Last time I seen her, it was dark in her house, she had a black light on, so I did not get a good look at her, but tonight I did and I just have to upgrade her looks to a Solid 8. She is not fat or athletic or thick, but she does have a NICE body, huge DDD tits (fake), washbard stomach but a little bit of strech mark here and there from a kid but nothing too noticeable or dishusting or any kinda loose skin.

Surprisingly she went bbbj on me. Not the worst, average I would say, but I did get to pound her again, and she rode me cg than rcg before I told her to jump off and unloaded in the condom. The thing I like about her is, she is cheap value, nice looking, doesn't rush you or watch the clock..however long it takes you to pop..it takes.

I may have to take her with me to Key West LOL.

SteelThunder
04-03-10, 19:48
And assuming this actually took place, your only "regret" is she didn't offer bare fs? If she offered it to you, how many other guys has she done it with bare? I ALWAYS tempt the provider with extra cash to see if she will do bareback fs. If she says yes, I tell her to leave and give her 40 dollars for her time and gas and send her on her way.



From what I recall, some of your previous posts included streetwalkers that have been known to offer full service barebacked from time to time. Personally I sheath it regardless of what the provider tells me. I go by the assumption that they all will do it if tempted or desperate. Just wondered if you try this little test on streetwalkers too. Of course they might just lie.......nah, those streetwalkers would never do that!

Best of luck and be safe.

JungleWarrior
04-04-10, 04:27
From what I recall, some of your previous posts included streetwalkers that have been known to offer full service barebacked from time to time. Personally I sheath it regardless of what the provider tells me. I go by the assumption that they all will do it if tempted or desperate. Just wondered if you try this little test on streetwalkers too. Of course they might just lie.......nah, those streetwalkers would never do that!

Best of luck and be safe.I tried it with L.B to see what she would say, and she flat out said no and told me to drop her off on the next light, the first time I ever seen her. Does she do bareback? I don't know, but the fact she wanted me to drop her off the moment I asked tells me she is not a dumb streetwalker. Also pulled the same thing on Becky and Terry, and they too said it was not gonna happen.

That's why i stopped seeing aimee. First time, covered, the last time, she tried to jump on without a condom, I asked her if this was normally something she did for clients..she said only a handful of guys, and that's when I said adios to her and never tried picking her up again.

I have never had a std, and I practice safe sex, regardless who it is with. A full comprehensive panel test is available at any clinic for 150 dollars, and a free standard test is available at all free clinic if you (not you but anyone in general) can't afford that.

Gixxer1000
04-04-10, 11:13
This has bs written all over it. 3 loads? Come on. Even with Viagra pumped into your veins, you can't get off 3 loads. Anytime I read a report/review on a guy bragging about "3 loads" I know its pure bs and made up. 2 cups is believable..but 3 puts it in the bs category.

And assuming this actually took place, your only "regret" is she didn't offer bare fs? If she offered it to you, how many other guys has she done it with bare?

I ALWAYS tempt the provider with extra cash to see if she will do bareback fs. If she says yes, I tell her to leave and give her 40 dollars for her time and gas and send her on her way.

That's what I did with the following 2 ladies who agreed to bareback fs (so if you are after bareback, call these 2 ladies)

http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-want-to-do-that-again-21/3674799

Devine 813-401-5155 = agreed to do bareback fs for an hour for 400$

http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/100-me-julie-gfe-friendly-100-roses-special-hh-21/3669294

Julie 727-288-1402 = offered to do bareback fs for 200/half hour (this was thru texting back and forth. I never met her face to face like Devine)Did Devine have a tattoo of a sun on her back?

I think Devine used to go by some other name, and used to advertise a lot on backpage like a year ago. I never got to see her before she disappeared.

She looks hot enough to TOFTT but I would definitely wrap it up with any of these girls. Has anyone given her a shot yet?

JungleWarrior
04-04-10, 20:41
Did Devine have a tattoo of a sun on her back?

I think Devine used to go by some other name, and used to advertise a lot on backpage like a year ago. I never got to see her before she disappeared.

She looks hot enough to TOFTT but I would definitely wrap it up with any of these girls. Has anyone given her a shot yet?I couldn't tell you if she did have a tat or not because we never got to that point. When I asked her about bareback and what she would charge me to do it and she quoted me the rate, I showed her the door and told her thanks but no thanks and sent her on her way.

All I know is, she was dropped off by another girl I know and recognized "Lyric" who I have had a session with, so I don't know if they are working together or what.

JungleWarrior
04-08-10, 15:36
You can sample Lindsey at Atlantis Showgirls. I ran into her on a Sunday night thereGet to sample her or just see her.

More info would be helpful

JungleWarrior
04-09-10, 02:58
Did Devine have a tattoo of a sun on her back?

I think Devine used to go by some other name, and used to advertise a lot on backpage like a year ago. I never got to see her before she disappeared.

She looks hot enough to TOFTT but I would definitely wrap it up with any of these girls. Has anyone given her a shot yet?You are right about devine. When she showed up, I had a weird feeling that I knew this chick from some place before, but could not put my finger on it. It had been bugging me since than. Well I just recently discovered some juicy details about her that made me go back and see her tonight after realizing we had a misunderstanding about what I was asking her about.

She is GFE, pm me for details if you want to know more.

R Consultant
04-10-10, 08:53
I have to agree with some of the stuff Smack says since he has turned me on to ho's I didn't even know that existed.

So in that respect his intel really isn't that bad, its just the way he delivers the information he does get.

Please PM me Smack and give me the rest of this news you speak of. I want to figure this one out myself. Seems like some shady stuff is going down again.

Happy Hunting..

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It is Julie playing games with her competition. She was bragging to some girl friends of mine that she sent a guy to harass Cindy. Since Julie didn't even finish high school, you really can't expect much more intelligence out of her. Julie will just continue to ho out her 4 or 5 girls at 73rd and let the drug dealers just do their business right in front of the police station. Julie is just so smart.
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That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard, but than again, so are 90% of your posts which are utterly useless and garbage.

JungleWarrior
04-11-10, 17:57
I decided to meet Kayla at 73rd Aromatherapy this week. She was very jittery and concerned with the possibility of me being a LEO. I got naked in front of her, but she still asked if I could shut off my phone after it vibrated. I think she was concerned that it was recording our session.

She was a petite MILF and in good shape. The problem was I do not like a coach or cheerleader when I am with them. She constantly talked and kept saying how I was going to enjoy it. I just never clicked with her. Maybe somebody else will have a completely different experience with her.

I wished Lindsey was working the day I was there, because I had a great time with her on my previous visit.Smack any provider across the face with an open hand and make sure the slap is so hard, that people down the street can hear it, than tell her, "I'm not LEO, now start sucking."

Member #5237
04-12-10, 00:28
Smack any provider across the face with an open hand and make sure the slap is so hard, that people down the street can hear it, than tell her, "I'm not LEO, now start sucking."



What a fuckin douchebag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JungleWarrior
04-12-10, 21:19
I don't know if anyone has posted this yet but, here's Lisa from FT in action!

http://www.theatersluts.com/tour/?nats=MTQ0MjUyNDo1MToxMQ,0,0,0,05 guys nutted in her ass!!

OMG

JungleWarrior
04-14-10, 05:22
Might be difficult, unless you have her phone number.

She's no longer on the FT/TG website.I saw her a few months ago at TG a couple of times. Nice lady, great attitude and willing to please you and honestly worth it. If she got fired from TG than Cindy is an idiot for firing her. If she ends up somewhere else or at a lingerie shop, someone please let me know.

As far as the Dirty D arrest, that is old news from back in Feb when 2 of his employees got arrested

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/article1075885.ece

Than Dirty D got arrested a month later 3/15 for filming a minor in a porno and as of the 7th of April also (the day they filmed another porno with a minor), another one of Dirty D's employees got arrested on 10 counts of PROMOTION OF A SEXUAL PERFORMANCE BY A CHILD

Be careful if you are a member on any of his sites, you could possibly be charged for downloading child pornography even if you did not know at the time the video was a minor in question. Don't be like Mathew Below and have to register as a sex offender

http://www.switched.com/2009/12/07/accidental-child-porn-download-leads-to-jail-time/

JungleWarrior
04-16-10, 11:28
I like FT/TG and Cindy did the prudent thing by firing Lisa in order to keep things cool and not antagonize the authorities. You should ask around before you make accusations. I am sure Tone Def answered your question about LISA being fired or not.

JungleWarrior
04-16-10, 14:28
I am a frequent and loyal customer to both shops as well as other independent providers. I'm just a horny nerd who can't get girls on my own.If there is anything i hate more than cops, it is snitches and that post of yours was snitch like. Why automatically point the finger at 73rd when you have NO proof to back it up? Lets recap shall we?

1-FT/TG posted ads on backpage offerring members of all forums, INCLUDING a private forum (TSMFE), and 73rd, a discount and publicly calling 73rd out specifically. 73rd did not post one ad offering discounts to FT/TG members (strike 1)

2-Lisa works for FT/TG not 73rd, thus her actions reflect on FT/TG not 73rd. Vice squadron is the person who POSTED that link to Lisas' porno, not the owner of 73rd, unless you are going to point the finger at Vice and call him Julie in disguise like I was called julie in disguise (still laughing about that), than leave the finger pointing out of it unless you have solid evidence.

3-Cindy is on this forum, under MULTIPLE names (everyone knows that), the main on being "truthbeknown" or whatever, and continuously defends herself.
Anytime someone says something about her shops that is somewhat negative or bad experience..all of a sudden we are wrong and she is always in the right.

Funny how that works out since Clinton bush says Cindy takes constructive criticism to improve her shop, yet she comes here and bashes people (strike 2). You don't see the owner of 73rd on here defending herself from the dumb comments smackthatass has made for a reason. Those that know the owner of 73rd, and the shop, and actually bothered to talk to her, know she doesnt care what is said on this board, thus no need to defend herself or the shop like Cindy does.

4-You are a hobbyist, doubt your "city official" friends are going to get involved in prostitution related investigations. That only draws attention to them. Lets not play the whole "i have a friend in city govt" card because I was a ex state DA prosecutor and one thing i learned is this. A snitch, ALWAYS gets ratted out by someone or their name comes up in the end. When it comes down to it, your city official friend will give up your info to protect his ass from public humiliation, being arrested or held in contempt of court.

JungleWarrior
04-16-10, 20:39
I want to start out by saying Lindsey was lots of fun but she has track marks on the inside of her arms. I am glad she used a condom. Julie should be more careful who she hires. A IV drug user puts us all at risk for Hepatitis or HIV. Its been reported on this site that other attendants at 73rd use drugs. But a IV drug user is very bad, (dirty needles) I can't recommend anybody go there until Julie cleans up the place. If you have been there and had a time with Lindsey go and get yourself check out i know i am.

Happy Hunting-BubbaHow many aliases are you up to now Cindy? And you wonder why people like myself stopped coming to your shop. Your constant attacks and stalking of 73rd is going to get you shut down because your dumb ass is alienating yourself from hobbyist. Instead of minding your own business and letting other shops do their own thing while you do yours, you would rather act like a senial 65 year old fart.

Your constant attacks on shops has gotten old. And Yes Cindy, I was told by a couple of girls today, that I am friends with at Executive 19, that you have now started to harass them in addition to 73rd.

I guess when you are 60+ years old, and near the end of your life, have a shop full of old ladies that aren't worth seeing, and still have to spread your legs to make ends meet (like Cindy), compared to Julie who has never provided, is less than half the age of Cindy, and actually has better looking quality girls than Cindy does, i can see why she is obsessed with sitting in parking lots and watching 73rd from across the street.

R Consultant
04-17-10, 08:40
Julie -Yes you were a hooker, you went by the name Hailey your stripper name at the Tanga Lounge. I guess Ms Julie has forgotten her good old days of hookin herself.

So please JW unless you know of Hailey aka Julie the owner at 73rd please don't say she wasn't a hooker because she was. I really dislike people trying to act like they don't have dirt in their closet. So stop calling out one person when Julie is just as guilty.

As one guy said it at least Cindy is involved in her daily business and Julie sits at home and plays on the computer and watches the videos of who goes into her massage parlor. At least Cindy isn't recording you.


Happy Hunting..



How many aliases are you up to now Cindy? And you wonder why people like myself stopped coming to your shop. Your constant attacks and stalking of 73rd is going to get you shut down because your dumb ass is alienating yourself from hobbyist. Instead of minding your own business and letting other shops do their own thing while you do yours, you would rather act like a senial 65 year old fart.

Your constant attacks on shops has gotten old. And Yes Cindy, I was told by a couple of girls today, that I am friends with at Executive 19, that you have now started to harass them in addition to 73rd.

I guess when you are 60+ years old, and near the end of your life, have a shop full of old ladies that aren't worth seeing, and still have to spread your legs to make ends meet (like Cindy), compared to Julie who has never provided, is less than half the age of Cindy, and actually has better looking quality girls than Cindy does, i can see why she is obsessed with sitting in parking lots and watching 73rd from across the street.

Sir Eptishes
04-17-10, 11:52
How many aliases are you up to now Cindy? And you wonder why people like myself stopped coming to your shop. Your constant attacks and stalking of 73rd is going to get you shut down because your dumb ass is alienating yourself from hobbyist. Instead of minding your own business and letting other shops do their own thing while you do yours, you would rather act like a senial 65 year old fart.

Your constant attacks on shops has gotten old. And Yes Cindy, I was told by a couple of girls today, that I am friends with at Executive 19, that you have now started to harass them in addition to 73rd.

I guess when you are 60+ years old, and near the end of your life, have a shop full of old ladies that aren't worth seeing, and still have to spread your legs to make ends meet (like Cindy), compared to Julie who has never provided, is less than half the age of Cindy, and actually has better looking quality girls than Cindy does, i can see why she is obsessed with sitting in parking lots and watching 73rd from across the street.Since this forum has morphed into a skunk sploogefest we might try to toss in a little bit of factual info? 2010 minus 1952 equals 58 by my reckoning? Guess you're not smarter than a 5th grader, or did your secretary look it up?

Don't know too many attorneys that can't subtract, but welcome to the club. Most attorneys are also able to spell 'senile' I'm told?

You are correct on one point, nonetheless; both ladies have used various aliases here. Conduct yourself accordingly, counselor!.

JungleWarrior
04-17-10, 18:25
Julie -Yes you were a hooker, you went by the name Hailey your stripper name at the Tanga Lounge. I guess Ms Julie has forgotten her good old days of hookin herself.

So please JW unless you know of Hailey aka Julie the owner at 73rd please don't say she wasn't a hooker because she was. I really dislike people trying to act like they don't have dirt in their closet. So stop calling out one person when Julie is just as guilty.Yes you "were" a hooker? I know you are not calling me Julie either, otherwise you are just as ignorant as Cindy and her aliases, thinking I am Julie. Again, like i told smackthatass, if the information I have provided some people on here in public or thru PM, could actually come from a woman,I would like to see how you explain that one. You want to think I am the owner of 73rd, than keep thinking that, what do I care?

Yeah I am aware the owner of 73rd was a stripper back in the day. That's not something new, nor is she ashamed of it because she openly admits it.So every girl who is a stripper is a hooker now?

On that note, I rest my case and proved a point. Some people just want to cause drama. I just did not expect SENIOR members to act like children on here. Instead of discussing the hobby and places to go, we got smackthatass and Rcon, trying to stir up more drama with their attack posts, you got bananaoil trying to make snitch threats, you got Cindy calling any hobbyist, the owner of 73rd or a competitor, for any bad experience at her shops, and the list goes on.

I'm with Atl guy, lets get back to the issue at hand, and if you have dumb comments (including attacks) to make about either shop, keep them to yourself or use the PM feature.

JungleWarrior
04-18-10, 03:23
I tried to see Ariel earlier this week. I sent her an email requesting a meeting for the next day. She sent me her cell#. I called her when I wanted to meet her and one of us was in a bad location because the cell call dropped. She then sent me a text wanting to know what I wanted to do. I replied I wanted a half hour meeting. She wanted to know what I wanted to do. I said have fun. I will not put acts down in a text message or even a phone conversation. She wanted to know what I wanted to spend. I said $, but then she got back into what I wanted to do with her. I finally gave up and ending up going to Atlantis for some fun. I guarantee I spent way more at Atlantis than I would of spent with Ariel.

I sent a message the next day explaining the reason I gave up. I said maybe we would try it again in a week or so. For the people who have seen Ariel, is this common MO with her. I would rather be disappointed with a 30 minute meeting than give out incriminating details in a text message. Maybe I am being overly cautious, but I have a lot to lose with screwing up.With her, I wouldn't be too worried about putting it in a text message. Just tell her what you want.

Assman2007
04-19-10, 10:42
How many aliases are you up to now Cindy? And you wonder why people like myself stopped coming to your shop. Your constant attacks and stalking of 73rd is going to get you shut down because your dumb ass is alienating yourself from hobbyist. Instead of minding your own business and letting other shops do their own thing while you do yours, you would rather act like a senial 65 year old fart.

Your constant attacks on shops has gotten old. And Yes Cindy, I was told by a couple of girls today, that I am friends with at Executive 19, that you have now started to harass them in addition to 73rd.

I guess when you are 60+ years old, and near the end of your life, have a shop full of old ladies that aren't worth seeing, and still have to spread your legs to make ends meet (like Cindy), compared to Julie who has never provided, is less than half the age of Cindy, and actually has better looking quality girls than Cindy does, i can see why she is obsessed with sitting in parking lots and watching 73rd from across the street.First of all this is not Cindy, I am a hobbiest and in the medical field and can see fresh needles marks. This site is for reviews and I thought everybody should know what there risks are when the see somebody who's a IV drug user. I know Lindsey has a private life but this is going to effect everybody if she has Hepatitis or worst HIV. Norm I commend you for sticking up for Lindsey but your wrong about her past use, she is still using buddy. Junglewarrior just stop at 73rd and look at her inside forearm you will see. Julie shame on you for not checking Lindsey out and if I caught anything watch out.

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JungleWarrior
04-19-10, 14:43
Was cruising backpage sex forums when I ran across a girl who was open to being sexually taken advantage of. We started talking and hooked up.

5'9, 115 pounds, unbelievably gorgeous, long blonde hair, blue eyes, legs for miles (like chrissys legs that were posted in the photo gallery) and works out daily (she has a solid 6pack) and looks alot like Evangeline Lilly (the show lost) and freckles.

She loves sex and has a bf, but she is not getting enough at home she told me. We hooked up, did not seem to care about time (we were together for 2.5 hours), bbbj, cim, swallow, anal, doggie, mish, cg, rcg you name it, she loves it, we tried it all. She only wants to see a handful of guys. 225$ was the total damage.

PM me if you want details. If I don't respond back to you, than don't bug me about it.

JungleWarrior
04-19-10, 14:45
Had fun with Ariel again last night. Definitely has loosened up alot since my first encounter. This time we spent alot more time together and chilled out.

Gentleman 100
04-19-10, 18:57
First of all this is not Cindy, I am a hobbiest and in the medical field and can see fresh needles marks. This site is for reviews and I thought everybody should know what there risks are when the see somebody who's a IV drug user. I know Lindsey has a private life but this is going to effect everybody if she has Hepatitis or worst HIV. Norm I commend you for sticking up for Lindsey but your wrong about her past use, she is still using buddy. Junglewarrior just stop at 73rd and look at her inside forearm you will see. Julie shame on you for not checking Lindsey out and if I caught anything watch out.Okay. I saw Lindsey recently and had a wonderful experience. She was professional and nice. I did not inspect her for marks nor did I ask for a resume.

Having said that, if you choose to go to a full service location, you should always be careful and use protection (probably not needed for a simple HE). If you don't, you put yourself and others at risk.

This post is meant to be a reality check, not a preaching from the pulpit. We can still have fun, but my point is to be careful and you can enjoy this hobby and live a long, healthy life.

My personal view, is that 73rd, TG, and FT (and any others like this) are better than picking up a SW (who has who knows what). By and large these places are clean and ladies are of high quality. Naturally, YMMV, but let's all be responsible.

Be safe.

SmackThatAss
04-21-10, 10:18
I remember Hailey at the Tanga Lounge, she ran with another blonde with big tits. I remember good times and lots of parties with Hailey aka Julie at 73rd Aroma with that blonde being her roommate. I used to see Haileys roommate the few times that Hailey claimed she was pregnant and had to take care of that little problem. I remember the roomie was a good ole time too.
I wonder what happened to her roommate? Anyone have some 411 on Julie/Halieys roommate I would enjoy getting that information.



Julie -Yes you were a hooker, you went by the name Hailey your stripper name at the Tanga Lounge. I guess Ms Julie has forgotten her good old days of hookin herself.

So please JW unless you know of Hailey aka Julie the owner at 73rd please don't say she wasn't a hooker because she was. I really dislike people trying to act like they don't have dirt in their closet. So stop calling out one person when Julie is just as guilty.

As one guy said it at least Cindy is involved in her daily business and Julie sits at home and plays on the computer and watches the videos of who goes into her massage parlor. At least Cindy isn't recording you.


Happy Hunting..

JungleWarrior
04-24-10, 18:45
Saw Madison and Kayla recenly. Great value, great girls, absolute knockouts. Contrary to some idiot reports some people have read on here from senior members with hidden agendas, this place is the jewel of Aromatherapy shops in the Pinellas County. There is not a shop out there that can touch it in terms of value, service, girls, and bang for your buck.

JungleWarrior
05-12-10, 01:56
This girl is a major ripoff and also a pill head. Do not let her in your house, she is a thief.

http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/looking-for-a-really-nice-time-guysclick-here-23/3819679

JungleWarrior
05-12-10, 02:12
It appears Skyler (midde girl in 3some photo) is back escorting under the name Star with Mimi (blonde right hand side)). Also it looks like Brooke/Kandy (on right hand side) is amoung them as well

http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/3809638

Star ad:
http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/3809664

Star is actually dancing at Oasis in Clearwater. She is using the stage name Brazilia. Hard to miss her since she has a big fat Brazilian flag tattooed on her ass cheek. Also has added some substantial belly fat recently. She is advertising 100 but for 75$ for 15 min at the club, you can nail her the VIP room. She will also negotiate for 60/15 min outside the shop

Just to note this. Brooke is known to be fs and skyler/star has reviews on another site all indicating fs as well, so i am willing to bet mimi is fs too. Again, this is just speculation so if you have seen mimi, and have a different experience, feel free to share.

JungleWarrior
05-12-10, 02:15
http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/3809589

817-846-7012

Girl is using fake pictures of a pornstar named Raven Riley.

www.ravenriley.com

Longhairngotee
05-13-10, 06:25
She texted me last night asking me to check and see if her ad was on backpage cause her friend posted an ad for her and she wanted to make sure it was done.

You can either email her and setup an appointment and get her digits that way or pm me for her digits. Again, she does cbj and is not gfe but still fun and has HUGE tits (read my post below)

http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/if-you-think-you-can-34/2509921A week or so ago I was doing some fishing on CL, responding to some "no strings" and "women seeking men" ads. It turned out that a few were Ariel's, she responded asking me to text her instead of emailing. Never followed up because I wasn't interested. Then yesterday she sent out a mass email listing my address along with those of at least two dozen other guys. I'm not too bothered by it as I have a separate account for all my kinky interests, but about 1/4 to 1/3 of the recipients have their full or partial names in the address. Some even have business name domains. Not too cool. Already one of the guys has contacted the rest of us asking for info about her skills. And fellas, if it never occurred to you, set up a free account on yahoo, hotmail, or where ever to maintain some level of anonymity.

Cryineagle911
06-26-10, 09:05
Sweetie to be quite honest I dont give a fuck who you spend your money on your a true dick the kind of client ladies dread dealing with and you would have never made it through my screening process any way ! So chances are you would have never seen me any way! I am truely glad I did not have to meet you or deal with you I prefer mature gentlemen with manners and some home raising which is apparent you have neither of! As far as your money goes do what you want with it you are sadly mistaken if you think I need your money ! I do just fine thanks and hey guess what I have been doing just fine more many years! lol! And never once has that been due to you so please don't make it sound like any one needs your money you can stable a grand to your dick and I would not touch it! Maybe you are just used to trashy ladies who dont mind taking your shit! All I can say is im glad theres some one who can tolerate you!Lol ! And any one who has spent time with knows I am a very down to earth sweet lady but dont take that for weakness because as long as you wish to continue talking shit then I will continue to speak out against you !Sorry thems the facts the best solution would seem to be that you just do not say any thing else there for I wont have to. That would please me but I guess your like a drama junkie or something who knows! And I was not judging you I truely dont give a care who you see I was only defending my self when you tried to speak out the side of your dumb ass neck about me! So basiclly if you did not want a response you should have just been a decent person and not tried to belittle someone for no reason! If you dont like me speaking up then just shut the hell up about it no one really cares any way! Not me or any one else! And again sweetie I never not one time stated I was upset because you did not see me so please stop trying to fake like that was the issue when the only issue was your comment as far as your money goes Trust me sweetie I am the last lady that needs your money! That being said have a great day! And lets allow everyone to enjoy this board with out your bullshit!Abby sounds like a stalker to me, everyone should be aware, i dont think this guy is makeing up this stuff, he has been on here long enough to know how to play the game. We need to look after our fellow mongers and its these ladies that we have to watch out for, they sound so honest and sincere and then the next thing you know you are having a forced chat w/uncle leo.good luck out there and be careful of these money hungy broads.

JungleWarrior
06-29-10, 08:13
Madison of

JungleWarrior
06-29-10, 08:18
Saw Mandy of 73rd the other day. Awesome session. Girl knows how to please a man. Great oral skills. She looks ghetto for a white girl but far from it. Give her a spin, you won't regreat.

I know 73rd doesn't get much love around here because other people have hidden agendas (hence why I rarely visit this site anymore) but those that have been to 73rd know its the best aromatherapy shop around the bay area. Can't beat it for prices, specially the 20 dollars special for 1 hour door fee.

JW out.

Olds Man
06-29-10, 21:00
Saw Mandy of 73rd the other day. Awesome session. Girl knows how to please a man. Great oral skills. She looks ghetto for a white girl but far from it. Give her a spin, you won't regreat.

I know 73rd doesn't get much love around here because other people have hidden agendas (hence why I rarely visit this site anymore) but those that have been to 73rd know its the best aromatherapy shop around the bay area. Can't beat it for prices, specially the 20 dollars special for 1 hour door fee.

JW out.

It wasn't the $20 door fee...it was the $.6 required tip that sent me back to FT/TG. Cameron IS hot, but no great chemistry. I've had great chemistry with every FT/TG lady. Chalk it up to different strokes for different folks -- it's all good

Clinton Bush
06-29-10, 23:51
It wasn't the $20 door fee...it was the $.6 required tip that sent me back to FT/TG. Cameron IS hot, but no great chemistry. I've had great chemistry with every FT/TG lady. Chalk it up to different strokes for different folks -- it's all good

"Asian Relaxation Spa" in Tarpon Springs does the same thing. .6 door fee then wants $.2 for a HE and $$+ for everything. Places often do this when they have a shitty reputation for service (like Asian Relaxation Spa does) and the need to advertise to lure the occasional tourist to their shop because they won't ever get any repeat business. Remember the door fee is only the "tip" of the iceberg. It's the total cost (door fee + tips) and the hassle of constantly being upsold that force these places to use the low door fee "bait and switch" tactics. I guess these girls can always find a job at a car dealership when their spa gig runs out.

Ajdal
06-30-10, 09:34
So what can I expect for an hour with Madison ? 20 door fee plus how much for an all in game?

Frank at your service

JungleWarrior
06-30-10, 22:26
So what can I expect for an hour with Madison ? 20 door fee plus how much for an all in game?

Frank at your service110=donation for FS

20 dollar door fee for an hour

Total damage 130 bucks for 1 hour FS with a hot chick. Can't beat that anywhere, not even FT/TG can beat it with their 20 dollar USA member discount but I am sure Clinton bush will argue that you can. As usual.

I made a typie though, it should be Mandy at 73rd not Madison, but either way, it is the same rate for either Madison or Mandy. Madison already has several strong reviews on another review site. Mandy is new but thats why I reviewed her below.

JungleWarrior
06-30-10, 22:28
"Asian Relaxation Spa" in Tarpon Springs does the same thing. .6 door fee then wants $.2 for a HE and $$+ for everything. Places often do this when they have a shitty reputation for service (like Asian Relaxation Spa does) and the need to advertise to lure the occasional tourist to their shop because they won't ever get any repeat business. Remember the door fee is only the "tip" of the iceberg. It's the total cost (door fee + tips) and the hassle of constantly being upsold that force these places to use the low door fee "bait and switch" tactics. I guess these girls can always find a job at a car dealership when their spa gig runs out.You say door fees are for business that are lacking due to shitty reputation...how is that any different than ft/tg that offers 20 dollars discount to members? That makes the reviews here biast considering the lady at FT/TG knows if she does not put on a good show, she will end up with a shitty reputation on here right? At least with 73rd, there is no discount for USA members, yet they still get great reviews.

but hey what do i know..im just a regular member.

R Consultant
07-01-10, 07:08
Why wouldn't you give give discounts? Discounts bring in customers and that means more money.

Just sayin..


You say door fees are for business that are lacking due to shitty reputation...how is that any different than ft/tg that offers 20 dollars discount to members? That makes the reviews here biast considering the lady at FT/TG knows if she does not put on a good show, she will end up with a shitty reputation on here right? At least with 73rd, there is no discount for USA members, yet they still get great reviews.

but hey what do i know..im just a regular member.

Loafer Boat
07-01-10, 07:49
I don't think the discount causes a bias review. It would certainly improve the chance of liking the value or "bang for buck". But no more or less tha you would consider the diference in price between two providers.

You say door fees are for business that are lacking due to shitty reputation...how is that any different than ft/tg that offers 20 dollars discount to members? That makes the reviews here biast considering the lady at FT/TG knows if she does not put on a good show, she will end up with a shitty reputation on here right? At least with 73rd, there is no discount for USA members, yet they still get great reviews.

but hey what do i know..im just a regular member.

Clinton Bush
07-01-10, 08:43
110=donation for FS

20 dollar door fee for an hour

Total damage 130 bucks for 1 hour FS with a hot chick. Can't beat that anywhere, not even FT/TG can beat it with their 20 dollar USA member discount but I am sure Clinton bush will argue that you can. As usual.

I made a typie though, it should be Mandy at 73rd not Madison, but either way, it is the same rate for either Madison or Mandy. Madison already has several strong reviews on another review site. Mandy is new but thats why I reviewed her below.
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My argument was aimed at "Asian Relaxation Spa" which is a HUGE RIP-OFF.
The service is non-existent, the quality of the girls is very bad and locals won't go there anymore. So they try to lure tourists and others who don't know of it's bad reputation in with a .6 teaser fee and when you get comfortable and are thinking with the little head, they ask $.3 for a HE.

Just walk or better yet don't go there initially unless you like to throw money down a sewer grate and you can't find an open sewer. You have been warned!

The pricing you described at 73rd does sound very good, IF you get the full 60 minutes. However as long as the TV cameras are there, I don't plan on going there any time soon. You might end up being "on" 60 Minutes.

Regards,
CB

Willh
07-02-10, 06:56
So what can I expect for an hour with Madison ? 20 door fee plus how much for an all in game?

Frank at your service

Depends on what you tip. I'd be surprised if you got your full hour. She was kind of rushed with me.

Gixxer1000
07-12-10, 20:12
110=donation for FS

20 dollar door fee for an hour

Total damage 130 bucks for 1 hour FS with a hot chick. Can't beat that anywhere, not even FT/TG can beat it with their 20 dollar USA member discount but I am sure Clinton bush will argue that you can. As usual.

I made a typie though, it should be Mandy at 73rd not Madison, but either way, it is the same rate for either Madison or Mandy. Madison already has several strong reviews on another review site. Mandy is new but thats why I reviewed her below.


The website says 50 for an hour. Is that just MSRP?

If it really is 130 +/- for an hour I am definitely going to check this place out. Whats the policy on multiple coffees?