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Permanent Wood
05-18-10, 08:35
"SANDY CULLEN | State Journal | Posted: Monday, May 17, 2010 5:19 pm"
Here's a link to Sandy's story:
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_b645ba18-6202-11df-adbd-001cc4c03286.html
apartment in the 1700 block of Niemann Place
The woman was described as white, 5 feet 5 inches tall. She has blond hair with dark streaks, tattoos on her chest and back, and was wearing a black tank top with thin straps and jeans.
Based on the description of the massage gal, any theories as to who this might be?
Does anyone recognize that neighborhood as a past destination for massage?
It sounded like the victim had past dealings with this one but went sour this time.
If the perp. is posting on CL in madtown as indicated by the article, there is only a handful of posters on any given day and a consistent bunch too.
I wonder if this happened to others afraid to contact LE?
Description doesn't ring a bell. Location is over by the Allied/Highland Motel neighborhood. I have never met anyone over there.
Permanent Wood
06-04-10, 13:06
BILL NOVAK | The Capital Times | bnovak@madison.com | Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:00 am
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_6e0fb5e8-470c-11df-b775-001cc4c002e0.html
A pair of masseuses named Exotica and Mrs. Unique rubbed a Madison man the wrong way early Saturday morning, fleeing with his money while leaving two bottles of body lotion behind.
The robbery happened at about 12:45 a.m. Saturday at a residence in the 200 block of North Blair Street.
Madison police said the 27-year-old man found Exotica and Mrs. Unique on the website Backpage.com and had them come over to his place.
"Exotica told the victim to lie face down on his bed," said police spokesman Joel DeSpain. "The victim complied, looked back, and saw Mrs. Unique going through his wallet."
Police said the man tried to get up, but Exotica pushed him back down, before the two masseuses fled with several hundred dollars.
"They were last seen getting into a green sedan," DeSpain said.
One suspect is a black female in her late 20s, with short braided hair with highlights, tattoos on her neck and a medium build. The other was described as a white female in her late 20s, 5'8" to 5'9" tall, long black hair with highlights, and a medium build.
"The two bottles of body lotion are now in a Madison Police Department evidence locker," DeSpain said.
Permanent Wood
06-16-10, 12:29
By BILL NOVAK | The Capital Times | bnovak@madison.com | Posted: Friday, June 4, 2010 9:40 am
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_667dab84-6fe1-11df-93e8-001cc4c03286.html
A Madison man told police he was on his way to a date when he lost his way and was robbed by a couple in a hotel parking lot, Madison police reported.
The strong arm robbery happened at about 3:15 a.m. Wednesday in the parking lot of the Rodeway Inn, 4845 Hayes Road, on the east side.
Police said the 21-year-old victim said he was driving and on the phone with his date, who was giving him directions to her residence.
"At some point, he said the directions were not making sense, so he pulled into the Rodeway Inn parking lot," said police spokesman Joel DeSpain.
His intent was to just turn his vehicle around, but while in the lot, a woman came up to his car.
"She told the victim she needed money for a sick child," DeSpain said. "He got out of his car and was going to accompany her into the hotel."
Before getting there, a man confronted the victim.
"He asked the victim to turn over his money and the victim obliged," DeSpain said.
The suspects were described as black, with the woman in her 40s, 5 feet 5 inches tall and 110 pounds, with long, curly brown hair; and the man 30-45 years old, 5-8 and 200 pounds, with a shaved head.
For those not familiar, I'm pretty sure the Rodeway Inn was formerly the "Select Inn," and is right next to Perkins.
Permanent Wood
07-09-10, 22:34
By ED TRELEVEN | etreleven@madison.com | 608-252-6134 | Posted: Friday, July 9, 2010 5:47 pm
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_e3210ba8-8bad-11df-a45e-001cc4c03286.html
After he had rammed his SUV into the front of Visions night club early Tuesday, Keith xxxx told police that he had come to Madison from Racine to decapitate his sister, according to a criminal complaint filed Friday.
Kieth xxxx, 50, was charged with two counts of second-degree reckless endangerment along with disorderly conduct and criminal damage to property for allegedly smashing into the front of the club after he was thrown out because he was drunk and had vomited in the club's VIP section.
But when police found his vehicle in a parking lot several blocks down East Washington Avenue from Visions, the complaint states, he said he was from Racine and had come into town to cut his sister's head off.
When police asked how he was going to do that, the complaint states, he told them to look in a bag in his vehicle, where police found a knife in sheath.
"If she was there she would be in two pieces," he told police, according to the complaint.
Kieth xxxx was released from jail Friday after posting $2,800 bail. His attorney, Marcus Berghahn, said in court that Kieth xxxx had been an engineer for 22 years and most recently worked for the U.S. Census.
Kieth xxxx is also charged in Marathon County with misdemeanor battery and disorderly conduct for another incident involving the same sister.
According to a criminal complaint Kieth xxxx got into an argument with his sister at their mother's home in rural Rosholt on June 19. Esther xxxx told police that her brother pushed her off of an outdoor deck, kicked her, hit her with a lawn chair and threatened to kill her, the complaint states.
This is the guy who rammed his SUV into Vision's strip club.
Permanent Wood
08-02-10, 19:44
By STEVEN VERBURG | sverburg@madison.com | 608-252-6118 | Posted: Friday, April 9, 2010 4:55 pm
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_a6330ae8-4422-11df-aa49-001cc4c03286.html
Madison is considering a new law to help police bust prostitution that is moving from the streets to the Internet.
The proposal would go beyond the existing prohibition against streetwalking to outlaw Web-based advertisements and other online communication designed to bring together sex workers and johns.
"You want an ordinance to more accurately keep up with technology," said Lt. David Jugovich, a supervisor at the police department West District, where community policing team officers last year made more than a dozen arrests after investigating complaints about online prostitutes.
The ordinance is scheduled to be introduced at Tuesday's City Council meeting. It will be reviewed in committee before coming back for a council vote.
Police Chief Noble Wray supports the ordinance, but said enforcing it would be labor intensive.
"It would definitely take a sting operation," Wray said. "You'd have to monitor the Internet and then be in contact with the parties involved."
Because sex ads typically aren't explicit — usually they offer escorts, massages or "good times" — police call, e-mail or text the person who placed the advertisement and arrange to meet them at a motel or other place where an undercover officer would make an arrest after the suspect clearly proposed sex for pay.
Permanent Wood
08-02-10, 19:46
CHRIS RICKERT | crickert@madison.com | 608-252-6198 | Posted: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:03 pm
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_a2128f5e-4d70-11df-94de-001cc4c002e0.html
Q. Earlier this month, Madison policy makers took up a proposed ordinance to outlaw the creation of online prostitution ads. Would Madison have jurisdiction to prosecute the offense if the ad is created on a computer or stored on a server outside Madison?
A. Yes, according to Madison assistant city attorney John Strange, who wrote the ordinance.
“It’s not the ad that gives the court jurisdiction. ... It’s the totality of the circumstances,” he said. “The person who gets a ticket is going to be somebody in Madison.”
The people prosecuted under the ordinance would almost always be facing traditional prostitution charges as well, he said.
As they do now, police conducting sting operations would agree to meet people at locations in Madison and, once verifying that the people expected money for sex, arrest them for prostitution, Strange said. If in the course of the investigation it became clear that a prostitute offered his or her services online, the officer could ticket the person under the new ordinance.
Strange said a defense attorney questioning the city’s jurisdiction in such instances might have more of a case to make if police were simply mailing out tickets to people posting cash-for-sex ads online.
But because those people probably aren’t posting their mailing addresses with their ads, that would be hard to do, he said. Strange said he can’t imagine a situation in which a person is charged under the ordinance but not charged with prostitution.
Walter Dickey, a UW-Madison Law School professor who specializes in criminal law, agreed that the city is probably on stable legal ground. An ordinance violation is a civil matter, but some of the same reasoning that applies to criminal procedure likely applies in this case, he said.
“It’s really a question of the connection between the offense and the city, and because the offense occurs at least in part in Madison, I think that ordinarily would be thought to be sufficient nexus,” he said.
Permanent Wood
08-07-10, 05:08
Prostitution here takes many forms, only some of which draw police attention
Joe Tarr on Thursday 08/05/2010
http://www.thedailypage.com/isthmus/article.php?article=30074
Permanent Wood
08-11-10, 14:35
By DEAN MOSIMAN | dmosiman@madison.com | 608-252-6141 | Posted: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:38 pm
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_6f0ada68-83d9-11df-bf48-001cc4c002e0.html
The city is moving to close and force a sale of a worn Beltline motel that for years has been a hotbed of alleged drug activity, prostitution, violence and other criminal activity.
Seeking to close a motel for criminal activity for the first time, the city on Tuesday filed an action in Dane County Circuit Court alleging the Highlander Motor Inn, 4353 W. Beltline, is a "drug house" under the state's public nuisance statute.
An 85-page complaint describes the 38-room motel as a "high drug, high crime property" and often the site of "violent crimes and disturbances."
The complaint details a series of police responses to problem at the motel between January 2008 and June 20, 2010, including the sale of heroin, cocaine and marijuana; robberies; disturbances involving guns and knives; a hanging; intoxicated guests; beatings; fights; lewd behavior and trespassing.
The property had 265 calls for police service in 2008, 299 in 2009, and 90 in the first three months of 2010, assistant city attorney Jennifer Zilavy said.
"If we don't move on it, something worse will happen on the property," Zilavy said. "The Police Department is convinced that the next thing was going to be a homicide."
Asked about the level of trouble at the property compared to other apartment buildings and motels in the city, Zilavy responded, "I haven't seen anything close."
The city is asking the court for an injunction to vacate, board up and secure the property, owned by Yi Chang Wang, and to have it sold, Zilavy said. The city will also ask the court to appoint a receiver to take over maintenance of the property, facilitate its closure, and ensure it is secure. The property is assessed at $937,500 for 2010.
An injunction hearing before Judge Richard Niess is set for July 7.
Wang, who has owned the property since 1978, declined an interview, saying only, "It's not fair."
Attorney Rick Petri, who is representing Wang, declined comment early Tuesday until he has an opportunity to review the court filing. He could not be reached later in the day.
In an affidavit accompanying the complaint, West District Police Capt. Jay Lengfeld said since he became captain in January 2007 "the Highlander (m)otel has been used to facilitate the delivery, distribution and/or manufacture and use of controlled substances." He could not be reached.
Two people who identified themselves as guests declined to be interviewed Tuesday.
Neighbors said the motel has been long troubled, although problems have eased after recent police actions.
A homeowner, who spoke under the condition he not be named for fear of retaliation, said he has been waiting for the city to take action.
"It's time the city got serious," he said.
David Sisson, who owns Sisson Mobility Restoration Center, 4343 Beltline Highway, next door to the motel, said he has witnessed many apparent drug deals and prostitution encounters, as well as guests littering his property.
"The scene was mind-boggling," he said. "There were hundreds of deals going down a day. It was like every room in the motel was occupied by an individual businessman."
The city has been trying to work with Wang, Zilavy said, adding that the hotel has a mix of short- and long-term guests.
In February 2008, police sent Wang a letter informing him of a high volume of police calls and asking for a meeting to discuss strategies to improve the property, the complaint says. In June of that year, police sent letters declaring an official notice of drug activity and a declaration of a chronic nuisance premises. Similar letters were sent on March 12, 2010.
Also, the city building inspector issued notices of a total 115 building code violations on Jan. 4, March 12 and June 17 this year, it says.
The complaint says Wang has called police for help many times, and even been victimized. On Sept. 20, 2009, a man attacked him from behind inside the motel, putting him in a choke hold and punching him in the face several times.
Although Wang made some efforts, the criminal activity always resumed, Zilavy said.
Wang "has failed to follow through on management commitments and is engaging in poor tenant screening and monitoring," Lengfeld's affidavit says.
The city has used the state statute to declare apartment buildings as drug houses, but never done so with a motel, Zilavy said.
Permanent Wood
08-11-10, 14:39
By SANDY CULLEN | scullen@madison.com | 608-252-6137 | Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:01 pm
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_4f40cc4a-9a8d-11df-ad9a-001cc4c03286.html
Two men were charged Wednesday with kidnapping and sexually assaulting an 18-year-old Middleton woman who told police the men also tried to sell her as a prostitute on the streets of Milwaukee until a group of people helped her escape.
Andrew J. Meinholz, 20, of Middleton and Aaron T. Gilbert, 21, of Madison were both charged with first-degree sexual assault and being a party to kidnapping. Meinholz also was charged with misdemeanor bail jumping.
At an initial appearance in Dane County Circuit Court on Wednesday, bail was set at $90,000 for Meinholz and at $20,000 for Gilbert. Both were being held in Dane County Jail.
According to a criminal complaint:
The victim met Meinholz at Middleton's Quarry Skate Park on July 17 to retrieve personal property, but Meinholz claimed she owed him money and forced her into Gilbert's vehicle, which Gilbert drove to Madison, Monona, Watertown and Milwaukee.
Both men forced her to have sex with them and threatened to kill her if she called police.
The woman was able to call her mother and tell her she was in Milwaukee and that she wanted to go home, but Meinholz ended the conversation. The woman's mother called Milwaukee police, who contacted the woman by phone, but Meinholz made her tell them she was fine and did not need help.
Gilbert drove to downtown Milwaukee, where Meinholz tried to solicit others to pay to have sex with the woman.
A group of college-age people whom Meinholz had solicited later helped the woman to escape. The woman told police Meinholz threatened the husband of a woman who helped her, saying he had a gun and was going to find them and shoot them.
Permanent Wood
08-12-10, 08:34
The woman was described as white, 5 feet 5 inches tall. She has blond hair with dark streaks, tattoos on her chest and back, and was wearing a black tank top with thin straps and jeans.
apartment in the 1700 block of Niemann Place
Based on the description of the massage gal, any theories as to who this might be?
Does anyone recognize that neighborhood as a past destination for massage?
With "Theory" being the key word here, I have one, "Angel Eyes," who matches the description and who has had some reports of less than stellar service, including alleged theft.
I see she also used the name "CeCe."
http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106451
Prostitution here takes many forms, only some of which draw police attention
Joe Tarr on Thursday 08/05/2010
http://www.thedailypage.com/isthmus/article.php?article=30074I read the article, but I don't recall reading anything about the adult services section of the Isthmus. It's almost like they conveniently forgot how they are part of the scene too, but I'm sure they must have known since it has been in everyone of their papers for like 20 years.
Permanent Wood
08-13-10, 13:17
I read the article, but I don't recall reading anything about the adult services section of the Isthmus. It's almost like they conveniently forgot how they are part of the scene too, but I'm sure they must have known since it has been in every one of their papers for like 20 years.
Good point, and you are right. The Isthmus has accepted payment for adult ads for years, Daja and Suzanne have advertised in it for decades now, along with many others. I suppose you could say The Yellow Pages is in the same boat, advertising adult services, but they aren't writing articles on "Sex for sale" either.
Maybe the article should have been titled, "Sex for sale in Madison, just flip to the back for their ads."
Lonelyguy128
08-13-10, 19:03
These articles always seem to come from the perspective that a woman had to have been abused or forced into the profession. As if no woman has ever made the choice that selling sex is easier and more profitable than any other job she could find. This article focused more on street walkers and I am sure that women on the low end of the sex trade are more prone to drug and other abuse, but really.
I love it when they write that way about strippers too. A woman takes $ 20 from a guy for a 2 minute dance and she's the one who is being exploited, yeah right.
I guess the writer didn't run into any of those ladies who most of us have met along the way. The ones who like sex so much they decided some where along the line if they are going to do it 6 times a day anyway they might as well get paid for it.
It was refreshing to hear the cop say if two consenting adults are meeting online he doesn't see the harm.
Good point, and you are right. The Isthmus has accepted payment for adult ads for years, Daja and Suzanne have advertised in it for decades now, along with many others. I suppose you could say The Yellow Pages is in the same boat, advertising adult services, but they aren't writing articles on "Sex for sale" either.
Maybe the article should have been titled, "Sex for sale in Madison, just flip to the back for their ads."
Curious Writer
08-18-10, 16:55
I guess the writer didn't run into any of those ladies who most of us have met along the way. The ones who like sex so much they decided some where along the line if they are going to do it 6 times a day anyway they might as well get paid for it.It wasn't from lack of trying. The prostitutes I talked with were ex-prostitutes and they got out of the business for reasons, as stated in the article. I have no doubt that some women choose the business and even enjoy it, but I could not get any active prostitutes to speak with me. Two originally agreed to do so but then backed out. Others I called from ads either refused or hung up on me. And I can't say that I blame anyone engaged in illegal behavior from trying to talk to me. You've got to protect yourself. But I'm not going to report on a perspective I haven't heard or documented first hand. I made an effort to talk to as many people as possible and reported what they told me.
I can't say that I blame anyone engaged in illegal behavior from trying to talk to meYou're admitting that your editor is aware that illegal behavior is being advertised in his paper?
Boy did you just fuck up.
Curious Writer
08-21-10, 15:21
You're admitting that your editor is aware that illegal behavior is being advertised in his paper?
Boy did you just fuck up.Ha, whatever. Boy do you take yourself seriously.
Ha, whatever. Boy do you take yourself seriously.
It's strange for a writer to now suggest his words are just a joke.
Curious Writer
08-23-10, 11:52
It's strange for a writer to now suggest his words are just a joke.Who said I was joking? I never called any ads that ran in Isthmus. I called ads that were on Craigslist and Backpages. Isthmus doesn't have much in the way of escorts ads anymore--the internet long ago killed that revenue stream for alt-weeklies.
But I find it funny that you would think my words on this site would somehow be actionable. I don't have anything to do with advertising. I don't set advertising policy, do not take any advertising orders, and know next to nothing about our advertising operations, or what ads the paper will or will not accept. Nor does my editor. That's how it works at most newspapers and magazines.
I merely said that I can understand someone being involved in prostitution--an illegal activity--having some reluctance in talking about it to a reporter.
Your comments are further amusing because this site is devoted to talking about an illegal activity. And somehow I'm going to get in trouble for saying I called a couple of escort ads? Whatever.
Permanent Wood
08-24-10, 14:28
You're admitting that your editor is aware that illegal behavior is being advertised in his paper?
I wonder if the law that protects internet postings would also apply to the Isthmus? I think so.
Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996 (a common name for Title V of the Telecommunications Act of 1996) is a landmark piece of Internet legislation in the United States, codified at 47 U.S.C. § 230. Section 230(c)(1) provides immunity from liability for providers and users of an "interactive computer service" who publish information provided by others:
No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.
In analyzing the availability of the immunity offered by this provision, courts generally apply a three-prong test. A defendant must satisfy each of the three prongs to gain the benefit of the immunity:
1. The defendant must be a "provider or user" of an "interactive computer service."
2. The cause of action asserted by the plaintiff must "treat" the defendant "as the publisher or speaker" of the harmful information at issue.
3. The information must be "provided by another information content provider," i.e., the defendant must not be the "information content provider" of the harmful information at issue.
Lonelyguy128
08-25-10, 01:00
Sounds to me like Curious Writer doesn't know much of anything about anything. No wonder he can't get people to talk to him.
I think the best way to do investigative reporting is to immerse yourself in the subject. Try out a few providers and those that don't rush you out the door will be happy to talk to you.
Who said I was joking? I never called any ads that ran in Isthmus. I called ads that were on Craigslist and Backpages. Isthmus doesn't have much in the way of escorts ads anymore--the internet long ago killed that revenue stream for alt-weeklies.
But I find it funny that you would think my words on this site would somehow be actionable. I don't have anything to do with advertising. I don't set advertising policy, do not take any advertising orders, and know next to nothing about our advertising operations, or what ads the paper will or will not accept. Nor does my editor. That's how it works at most newspapers and magazines.
I merely said that I can understand someone being involved in prostitution--an illegal activity--having some reluctance in talking about it to a reporter.
Your comments are further amusing because this site is devoted to talking about an illegal activity. And somehow I'm going to get in trouble for saying I called a couple of escort ads? Whatever.
Curious Writer
08-25-10, 08:09
Sounds to me like Curious Writer doesn't know much of anything about anything. No wonder he can't get people to talk to him.
I think the best way to do investigative reporting is to immerse yourself in the subject. Try out a few providers and those that don't rush you out the door will be happy to talk to you.You've got me there. I have never claimed to be especially knowledgeable or smart. Feel free to insult me all you want, if it makes you feel better. Or hell, even if it doesn't, I don't mind.
As to your point about immersion reporting, I've done it on a few occasions and found it valuable for conveying what certain experiences are like--walking on fire, fasting, being chased by prison dogs, sleeping in a homeless shelter. But it wouldn't have answered the question I was most interested in for this story: why do people become prostitutes and why do people sleep with prostitutes, or put more broadly, what is life like for some fellow human beings. I could have slept with a prostitute, but it wouldn't have told me much about what her life is like. It would have just been a gimmick. Though, years ago, a reporter for Isthmus did do something similar, and visited a massage parlor and got the full treatment. If I can find a link, I'll post it, but I fear it was pre-internet.
Permanent Wood
08-25-10, 12:34
But it wouldn't have answered the question I was most interested in for this story: why do people become prostitutes and why do people sleep with prostitutes?
The short answer is quick and easy money.
And for the second part of your question, quick and easy pussy.
Curious Writer, the part about having trouble finding providers to interview, I believe would be because they are programmed to be paid for their time, freebies of any sort are as rare as chicken teeth.
Curious Writer
08-25-10, 14:00
The short answer is quick and easy money.
And for the second part of your question, quick and easy pussy.
Curious Writer, the part about having trouble finding providers to interview, I believe would be because they are programmed to be paid for their time, freebies of any sort are as rare as chicken teeth.Sure, those are the easy, obvious answers, but they don't get me any closer to understanding what someone's life is like, which is what I'm most interested in as a writer. Neither does sleeping with them.
At any rate, on my salary, I can't afford the rates most of the ads I saw charge. And like most of you, I don't sleep with people I don't I don't want to sleep with.
Writer thinks that there's some kind of sub-culture like the Masons or the Lion's Club, with secret rituals and weird costumes.
A better story, the one he missed, is why old and young, rich and working poor, business / government leaders and losers are all willing to risk so much for something that harms no one.
"But I'm not going to report on a perspective I haven't heard or documented first hand. I made an effort to talk to as many people as possible and reported what they told me."
Let us be honest and forthright with each other. The perspective you wished to follow would be the angle that would gain the greatest favor with your editors. Your prejudices are subservient to their preconceived perceptions. This allows you to gain favor with the bosses and helps lubricate your journey towards journalist nirvana.
That and being able to sit at the bar with your colleagues and engage in titillating smarminess while slurping Negro Modelos.
Curious Writer
08-25-10, 20:31
"But I'm not going to report on a perspective I haven't heard or documented first hand. I made an effort to talk to as many people as possible and reported what they told me."
Let us be honest and forthright with each other. The perspective you wished to follow would be the angle that would gain the greatest favor with your editors. Your prejudices are subservient to their preconceived perceptions. This allows you to gain favor with the bosses and helps lubricate your journey towards journalist nirvana.
That and being able to sit at the bar with your colleagues and engage in titillating smarminess while slurping Negro Modelos.Unfortunately, my colleagues don't drink and we have a pretty small staff. And well, let's be honest--I've made no presumptions or assumptions about anyone involved in the sex industry. I wish you'd afford me the same respect. Yes, I like to make my bosses happy. But I also genuinely like to convey human experience. It's why I've chosen this profession. I would never lie or make shit up to please my bosses.
Curious Writer
08-25-10, 21:09
And really, if all I cared about is what my bosses thought, I wouldn't be engaging you here.
Curious Writer
08-26-10, 00:20
Writer thinks that there's some kind of sub-culture like the Masons or the Lion's Club, with secret rituals and weird costumes.
A better story, the one he missed, is why old and young, rich and working poor, business / government leaders and losers are all willing to risk so much for something that harms no one.Well, there are hundreds of stories that could be written on the subject, some I'm sure a lot better than mine, some a lot worse. I'm not exactly the boy of my own dreams. And certainly not the last, definitive word on anything.
Lonelyguy128
08-26-10, 00:57
[QUOTE=Curious Writer] ... I could have slept with a prostitute, but it wouldn't have told me much about what her life is like.
I have had many providers tell me a lot more than I wanted to know about their lives, mostly after we finished having sex. These are women who sell their time. All they want is to be paid and you can talk or do anything you want to them as long as you pay for the time. Why would you think they would give you time for free?
I agree with PW. Most providers do it because they think it's the easiest way they can make a living. Even at the high end of the business there are very well educated women who will go out to dinner and keep wealthy men entertained with sparkling conversation. These are talented women who could probably make a lot of money selling anything, but they choose to sell their bodies because they think it's easy.
Maybe you could do some research on the benefits of legalized prostitution. The government could license providers, make sure they are of legal age and provide regular health screening. Just think if Madison could legalize prostitution and marijuana it could be the vacation capital of the USA. Bye, bye recession.
I do think it's unfair to say you are just writing what your bosses want. It sounds to me like you genuinely believe in what you are doing and I am one who still enjoys reading print newspapers, so I appreciate your efforts.
Permanent Wood
08-27-10, 19:39
The perspective you wished to follow would be the angle that would gain the greatest favor with your editors. Your prejudices are subservient to their preconceived perceptions. This allows you to gain favor with the bosses and helps lubricate your journey towards journalist nirvana.
That and being able to sit at the bar with your colleagues and engage in titillating smarminess while slurping Negro Modelos.
This should be entered in the dictionary as the definition of "brown-nosing," well, the "Urban dictionary" anyway.
I, myself, will remain lubricating girl's faces on my quest for "prostitutional nirvana."
Dustyshoes
08-28-10, 09:58
come on guys. why are we fighting here?
there is an argument here that there are, in fact, some victims of prostitution. they include, ****, human trafficking, and probably, some others. there is also, the argument that this is supposed to be a free country in which we should be free to do with our bodies as we wish. both sides of the issue has some merit.
that said, what if we were to take curious writer at his word. he, like any reporter probably was assigned by some editor to go out and make an unbiased report on the subject. what we do not know, is if he was told to lean one way or another. that could be answered by him.
is it not beyond the realm of possibilities that he could only get comments from ex prostitutes as he said? keep in mind that anyone reformed from anything generally has some axe to grind.
the people on here seem to be passionate about their hobbies, so in the sense of compromise, how about if anyone out there could connect him with an alternate view, he could probably show both sides. someone here must have some kind of relationship with someone to get this done. it doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything to keep this as a long drawn out battle.
thanks, just venting.
****, human traffickingthat's the problem. those 2 thing happen 1000 miles and a world away, but then somehow a women who can't make enough money working fast food gets blamed for trying to feed and cloth her kids.
Curious Writer
08-30-10, 10:57
come on guys. why are we fighting here?
there is an argument here that there are, in fact, some victims of prostitution. they include, ****, human trafficking, and probably, some others. there is also, the argument that this is supposed to be a free country in which we should be free to do with our bodies as we wish. both sides of the issue has some merit.
that said, what if we were to take curious writer at his word. he, like any reporter probably was assigned by some editor to go out and make an unbiased report on the subject. what we do not know, is if he was told to lean one way or another. that could be answered by him.
is it not beyond the realm of possibilities that he could only get comments from ex prostitutes as he said? keep in mind that anyone reformed from anything generally has some axe to grind.
the people on here seem to be passionate about their hobbies, so in the sense of compromise, how about if anyone out there could connect him with an alternate view, he could probably show both sides. someone here must have some kind of relationship with someone to get this done. it doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything to keep this as a long drawn out battle.
thanks, just venting.believe me, my editors would not have had any problem with an account of a prostitute who enjoyed her work. that sort of titillating yarn would be well read (there have been a few blockbuster movies about hookers with a heart of gold). and someone on here did graciously try to connect me with a provider, but it fell through and i was on a tight deadline. and another provider on here responded to my request for an interview, but then didn't show up to it and never responded to my follow up calls and emails. i have no doubt that there are women who go into prostitution willingly--hell, even the the ex-prostitutes i talked to went into it willingly and said there were elements of it they enjoyed. but everybody on here should be able to recognize that it's a high-risk profession and some of the people involved in it don't have the happiest lives. i mean, are we really arguing that? and i'm not blaming anybody on here for the fact that they may not have happy lives. we're all responsible for our own choices. but, you know, if you're going to steadfastly deny that any provider might have a less than happy life and they're all just as happy and content as can be, it makes me think you're engaging in some tortured self-justification. just saying. (and those comments are not aimed at you dustyshoes.)
i am looking at doing a follow up project on this, something along the lines of a documentary, so if there is anyone who would like to talk or refer me to a provider, please let me know. identities will not be revealed.
Permanent Wood
08-30-10, 14:28
I am looking at doing a follow up project on this, something along the lines of a documentary, so if there is anyone who would like to talk or refer me to a provider, please let me know. Identities will not be revealed.How about physical descriptions? I thought the part where you started to describe the one dude who you interviewed was almost enough to give dude away, none would have been better.
Curious Writer
08-30-10, 16:52
How about physical descriptions? I thought the part where you started to describe the one dude who you interviewed was almost enough to give dude away, none would have been better.My description was pretty vague. Middle-aged guy with a gray beard? No weight, height, eye-color, job description, anything. There are probably thousands that would fit that description, including a few people I work with.
Curious Writer
08-30-10, 21:05
How about physical descriptions? I thought the part where you started to describe the one dude who you interviewed was almost enough to give dude away, none would have been better.But to the larger point, there probably won't be any video footage--just audio. I'm working with a local production company that is interested in the project.
Coochie Eater
08-31-10, 11:34
Believe me, my editors would not have had any problem with an account of a prostitute who enjoyed her work. That sort of titillating yarn would be well read (there have been a few blockbuster movies about hookers with a heart of gold). And someone on here did graciously try to connect me with a provider, but it fell through and I was on a tight deadline. And another provider on here responded to my request for an interview, but then didn't show up to it and never responded to my follow up calls and emails. I have no doubt that there are women who go into prostitution willingly--hell, even the the ex-prostitutes I talked to went into it willingly and said there were elements of it they enjoyed. But everybody on here should be able to recognize that it's a high-risk profession and some of the people involved in it don't have the happiest lives. I mean, are we really arguing that? And I'm not blaming anybody on here for the fact that they may not have happy lives. We're all responsible for our own choices. But, you know, if you're going to steadfastly deny that any provider might have a less than happy life and they're all just as happy and content as can be, it makes me think you're engaging in some tortured self-justification. Just saying. (And those comments are not aimed at you Dustyshoes.)
I am looking at doing a follow up project on this, something along the lines of a documentary, so if there is anyone who would like to talk or refer me to a provider, please let me know. Identities will not be revealed.I have hobbied all over the country. I have picked up junkies, crackheads, anorexics, and I have paid big bucks to be with ex-porn stars. Actually, if anyone remembers Audree Jaymes, I once sponsored a party in Chicago that she appeared at. (DAMN! What a great gal, with perfect tits and a banging bod!) The long and short of it is this, people get into hooking for all sorts of reasons and they stay in hooking for all sorts of reasons, and they leave hooking for all sorts of reasons. One of the girls that counts me as a regular advertised on BackPage for a while, but now she has a stable of men she trusts and enjoys. She also has a regular job, and is quite sweet and personable.
There are bust-down hypes here in Madison too; Short of money for crack or whatever drug they're hooked on. All of the women I deal with anymore are decent women who like to fuck, like money, and like to fuck for money. But that doesn't deny the ones I've met that are pretty scary, and may be on their last legs. If anything I've learned, hooking runs a broader gamut of society than any other profession I've seen, except maybe for the ministry.
Just my two cents. God bless you all.
Permanent Wood
09-01-10, 09:29
How about some investigative reporting to unmask one of the biggest mysteries of the "Hoe world." What the fuck do these providers do with all their fuckin' money????
I read it. Sorry Curious Writer but I have seen that same article more then a few times, you didn't break any new ground there. It was well written but nothing new. Just filler which is what the Isthmus is all about these days.
Curious Writer
09-07-10, 10:03
I read it. Sorry Curious Writer but I have seen that same article more then a few times, you didn't break any new ground there. It was well written but nothing new. Just filler which is what the Isthmus is all about these days.Heh, well, that's the story of my life. I'm just taking up space, pal.
Permanent Wood
09-08-10, 18:26
I read it. Sorry Curious Writer but I have seen that same article more then a few times, you didn't break any new ground there. It was well written but nothing new. Just filler which is what the Isthmus is all about these days.
I think to us guys who are exposed to a lot of pussy for sale, an article like the Isthmus one isn't anything we haven't heard before, although we can still appreciate it. The article would be more titillating to the general reading public however because they think there's some kind of hidden secret life involved with people selling and buying pussy, like has been mentioned before, like the "Freemason's Society" or some other covert group.
Coochie Eater
09-08-10, 19:26
To hell with the article, you should have read the letters to the editor the following week. Some fucking cu*nt wrote in that the photo on the front was imprudent, and OMG! What if some child saw that. Well obviously this twatt hasn't been downtown on a Friday or Saturday night. All this young college snatch runs around in 5 inch heels, skirts cut just below the cunny, and necklines plunging like a doomed skydiver. I thought the ersatz hooker on the front of the rag was dressed rather prudently.
So anyway, fuck the general public. I thought the article was even handed and as objective as it could be. Hell, let's take a poll as to why any of us like to cruise for hookers.
1. Variety
2. Danger
3. Self Punishment
4. Self Gratification
5. Sexually Abused
6. Orally fixated
7. The b1tch won't come across at home.
8. Would you fuck my wife? Sheesh
9. Bad mommy
10. Fun
11. Services not available from our wives, girl-friends, neighbors' wives,
cousins, nieces, baby sitters, nuns, etc.
12. Desire to abuse and debase women
13. Desire to thrill and delight women
14. Date women half our age
15. Date women twice our age
16. Date women who are as twisted, kinky, or freaky as we are.
17. Curiosity
18. Itch I can't scratch with my hand
19. It's dirty
20. I can't do that - my wife kisses my kids with that mouth.
21. This babe does things my mom won't
22. This babe is my mom
23. Laziness
24. They leave when they're done and I don't have to spend Thanksgiving,
Christmas, or their birthday with their mother, for fuck sake.
25. Cuz I CAN!
Oh there are many more reasons, but I can't think of them all right now.
Permanent Wood
10-20-10, 19:28
TODD RICHMOND Associated Press Writer | 2:04 p.m. CDT, October 20, 2010
http://www.fox6now.com/news/sns-ap-wi--massageparlor,0,2756062.story
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Police have raided a massage parlor a block from the Wisconsin Capitol building.
The Madison Police Department issued a statement saying officers executed a search warrant at the Rising Sun massage parlor around 11:30 a.m. Wednesday. Detectives were gathering evidence in a prostitution investigation.
The statement says an investigation into a 2008 sexual assault of a 5-year-old Madison girl on the city's east side led Madison police, state agents and federal agents to the Rising Sun.
The statement does not elaborate, saying court documents in the case have been sealed for three months. Madison Police spokesman Joel DeSpain declined comment.
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OldFatUglyGuy
10-20-10, 20:45
Well, here's a report on a new girl in janesville. Kelly is her name, picture is acurate and she is nice enough. $.5 for half hour, she went down to $.2 and said it was a short rate price, but she gave me plenty of time, not watching the clock. Anyway on goes the cover (its all covered) and she does a decent job. You can play but nothing can go inside, pretty boring. Greek is available but for way to much. She was more concerned about the condom than anything. Not a bad time but not worth the money, IMHO.
Permanent Wood
10-21-10, 09:04
By DAN SIMMONS | dsimmons@madison.com | 608-252-6136 madison.com | Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 5:45 pm
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_2960a6f2-dc7e-11df-88b1-001cc4c002e0.html
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Madison police served a search warrant at a massage parlor a block from the Wisconsin Capitol building Wednesday morning, collecting evidence and questioning three people in what was described as an ongoing prostitution probe.
Officials in at least three squad cars and two white vans arrived at about 11:20 a.m. at the Rising Sun massage parlor at 117 W. Main St., according to police and neighbors.
"We saw them go by the front window and ran out to see what the deal was," said Amy Jones, who works at the Paradise Lounge, a bar next door. "The police told us to get back inside."
Two women and a man present at the second-story business were taken by police for questioning but none was charged in relation to the investigation as of Wednesday afternoon, said police spokesman Joel DeSpain. One of the women was being held in connection with an unrelated warrant in another county, he said.
Investigators with the Madison police and state Department of Justice remained at the business through the afternoon, at one point loading multiple bags marked "evidence" into a police van. One bag appeared to contain pillows, Jones said, but the others were zipped shut.
DeSpain said the investigation follows on evidence gleaned from a 2008 case in which a 28-year-old female employee of Rising Sun was charged with failing to stop the alleged sexual assault of her 6-year-old daughter by a then-84-year-old customer, Robert E. Marek of Madison. Marek was convicted of two felony counts of sexual assault of a child in the case for allegedly fondling the girl while caring for her at his home as her mother, who police allege worked as a prostitute, was out with other customers, according to a criminal complaint.
The woman was not named by the Wisconsin State Journal to protect the identity of her daughter.
DeSpain didn't elaborate on the connection between the two cases, saying court documents in the case have been sealed for three months.
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Permanent Wood
10-23-10, 10:39
By TODD RICHMOND | Associated Press Writer | 6:28 p.m. CDT, October 20, 2010
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-wi-massageparlor,0,6997616.story
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MADISON, Wis. —
Police searching for evidence in a prostitution investigation raided a massage parlor in downtown Madison on Wednesday.
Officers entered the Rising Sun massage parlor around 11:30 a.m., Madison Police spokesman Joel DeSpain said in a statement. They found three people in the business, a man and two women, DeSpain told The Associated Press by phone.
One of the women was arrested on a warrant from another county, DeSpain said, although he didn't have any further details. Asked what happened to the man and woman, he said only, "The case is ongoing as we speak. It's a very fluid situation."
Andre Jackson, 42, lives in an apartment two doors down from the Rising Sun. He visited the massage parlor once to find out what it was about, he said, but left after a woman there solicited him for sex.
"One of the girls was like, $150. I turned around. I don't need no trouble," he said. "Everybody knows what that place is for."
The raid stemmed from an investigation into the sexual assault of a 5-year-old girl on Madison's east side in 2008, the statement said. It did not elaborate and DeSpain said records linked to the case surrounding Wednesday's raid have been sealed for 90 days.
Police declined to specify which 2008 case was tied to Wednesday's raid.
However, Dane County court records show that an 84-year-old man named Robert E. Marek was charged in 2008 with sexually assaulting the 5-year-old daughter of a woman he contacted through an escort ad. The woman had worked at Rising Sun, the records indicate.
The woman was charged with causing mental harm to a child and trying to extort money from Marek to remain quiet about what was done to her daughter, according to the records. The Associated Press doesn't identify victims of sexual crimes and is not reporting the woman's name to protect her daughter's identity.
Marek was convicted of two counts of 1st degree sexual assault of a child and sentenced in March 2009 to two years in prison. A jury last October acquitted the woman of the extortion count but convicted her of causing her daughter mental harm. A judge gave her to three years in prison but stayed the sentence in lieu of six months in jail and four years on probation.
The woman was charged in June with misdemeanor prostitution. She was ordered not to be at the Rising Sun or work for any massage parlor as a condition of bond.
Her attorney in that case, Reed Cornia, and her attorney in the 2008 case, Charles Giesen, didn't immediately respond to after-hours phone messages Wednesday.
The Rising Sun is wedged between two bars in a row of two-story buildings about a block from the state Capitol. Worn video cameras were perched over the doorway on Wednesday. A call to a number on the establishment's sign rang through to an answering machine. A recorded voice said the parlor was open from 10 a.m. until 2:30 a.m. Monday through Friday and from noon to 1 a.m. on Sundays and charged $70 for 40 minutes and $90 for an hour. No one immediately returned a message.
Tax records indicate a real estate agent named Larry Lichte owns the property. He declined comment when reached by phone on Wednesday afternoon.
Amy Jones, a 28-year-old waitress at the Paradise Lounge, next door to the Rising Sun, said she saw a SWAT team march by the windows around noon, although DeSpain said the officers were not a tactical team. Police told her to go back inside, she said.
"It's like the quietest place on the block," Jones said.
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Looks like Chuck was a naughty boy!
It says in the report he was arrested Friday night, but at the bottom it says no one has been arrested. (who knows) I'm guessing "no arrests have been made in the current case" is referring to the prostitution charges.
http://www.cityofmadison.com/incidentReports/incidentDetail.cfm?id=11569
According to CCAP he was found not guilty of attempted first degree murder in 1986. Anyone have the story behind that?
Does anybody else think that the article by curious writer in the Isthmus had at least something to do with the LE troubles at RS? As one of the statements by MPD said, they respond to complaints by concerned citizens. Do you think the front page Isthmus article might have raised some concerns among the citizens? I do. Face it folks, this hobby does not flourish in the spotlight. Think about it the next time you have the opportunity to talk to a reporter.
Phompee
BellaDonna2
06-03-11, 00:10
Looking through old quotes and this one caught my eye. Biggest mysterie of the hoe world, Where does the money go? LMAO I some times wonder the same thing. Of course you have your questionable girls out there who have habits, and are not worried about any thing but buying a new outfit and going out that coming weekend. But please try to remember there are woman out there, like me, who are trying to do some thing with there life. I was unfortunate about 6 years ago now and my house burnt down. I had to start over again at 24. New beds furniture clothing all of it. I struggled for 4 years trying to get back the things that I had lost. And two years ago I started working at a legal brothel in Nevada. My life has completely changed. I am able to provide the things I need to my family and we are able to enjoy life. I realized real quick while working in the brothel that my job was not always about the freaky the flexable and the fake boobs! It was about companionship. And having someone you connect with. And not Always so much about the money. You make friends in this business. So where does the money go? Well if she's got all her teeth then there is a strong chance she might be trying to open up a small business. So it don't have to be late nights and hotel rooms anymore. JUST A THOUGHT Belladonna.
How about some investigative reporting to unmask one of the biggest mysteries of the "Hoe world." What the fuck do these providers do with all their fuckin' money????
Permanent Wood
02-14-12, 13:44
Details (from a few months ago)
In the eyes of the 22-year old customer, he had just been victimized in a classic bait-and-switch, paid for services not rendered, and he reached out to police to make him whole again.
When an officer arrived in the early morning hours of September 23rd, the young man explained about how he had used the internet to find an 'escort, ' that he understood the $200 price to include 'everything, and that – in the end – he did not get 'everything. ' He did get something, but was told 'everything' would actually be another $100.
He told the woman he had no more money, and that he now wanted his $200 back because she had not lived up to the terms of the contract.
The man said the woman was thin, blonde, and about 5'6'. She brought with her, to his residence, a second woman who he described as also being blond and 5'6. ' However, he said the second woman was considerably heavier that the 'escort. ' He put her weight at 300 lbs, and said she was likely the 'escort's' director of security.
The officer asked the man if he knew prostitution was illegal. He said he knew that. The officer asked if he knew he had paid for a prostitute. He said he knew that. The officer then inquired as to whether he would call the police when he knew he had just committed a crime.
The man said he works hard for his money, and he felt the MPD would get his payment back for him.
The officer said he would investigate to see if he could identify the prostitute, but also explained to the man that he would not get his money back, even if recovered, since it was used in order to commit a crime.
The officer was unable to find the 'escort' using information supplied by the victim.
In the end, it may have been an expensive double lesson for the 22-year old. Not only was he out his initial $200, but he also was left with a $681 Loitering for Purposes of Soliciting Prostitutes ticket.
Howard5354
02-14-12, 21:04
Details (from a few months ago)This is one stupid man.
Details (from a few months ago)How the hell does Madison make a loitering charge stick in a case like this?
Permanent Wood
02-17-12, 06:32
How the hell does Madison make a loitering charge stick in a case like this?I don't know. I wouldn't think it would. It seems like it would have to be investigated and proved or at least corroborated by another person. The cop said he would try to find the alleged hooker but admitted he didn't succeed.
HornyGuy Lif
02-17-12, 22:12
I don't know. I wouldn't think it would. It seems like it would have to be investigated and proved or at least corroborated by another person. The cop said he would try to find the alleged hooker but admitted he didn't succeed.Lawyers cost money so to fight it will cost $$$$$$! Last time I had legal problems (20 years ago) it cost 2K to ammend it to a county ordinance violation. Would have been 7-8 K to take it to court and fight it. But this was a top shelf lawyer. My guess is the offer the guy a plea deal.
Are Gh and RS still in business? I'll be in Madison Monday and am hoping to stop in any info would be great.
Are Gh and RS still in business? I'll be in Madison Monday and am hoping to stop in any info would be great.GH & RS are still in business. RS has gotten a little press lately, with a "raid" last year confiscating records and the like. Looking for tax evasion, had tried to pin prostitution on them due to some disgruntled former employee, who had problems of her own. All that said, reportedly, both still in business.
Think they would have better things to do!
http://www.channel3000.com/news/Four-women-cited-in-prostitution-sting/-/1648/19219784/-/15ukdwez/-/index.html
Word is that the next sting will target hobbyists.
Howard5354
03-08-13, 18:04
Think they would have better things to do!
http://www.channel3000.com/news/Four-women-cited-in-prostitution-sting/-/1648/19219784/-/15ukdwez/-/index.html
Word is that the next sting will target hobbyists.Where is the north side hotel? I did not know Mad had any hotels on the north side. Why not the East side?
Where is the north side hotel? I did not know Mad had any hotels on the north side. Why not the East side?Noticed that. Can't think of any chain hotels on the north side. Maybe a mom and pop flattop motel? No names or pics yet.
You guys be careful out there.
Howard5354
03-08-13, 21:31
Noticed that. Can't think of any chain hotels on the north side. Maybe a mom and pop flattop motel? No names or pics yet.
You guys be careful out there.But on the east side. And they gave the wrong intell to continue the sting operation.
But on the east side. And they gave the wrong intell to continue the sting operation.Here's the report. Hayes Road area. I call that the East side but whatever.
http://www.cityofmadison.com/incidentreports/incidentDetail.cfm?id=14173
Howard5354
03-08-13, 21:42
Here's the report. Hayes Road area. I call that the East side but whatever.
http://www.cityofmadison.com/incidentreports/incidentDetail.cfm?id=14173Yes, and here is the address of the Hampton Inn.
Hampton Inn Madison East Towne Mall Area.
4820 Hayes Road, Madison, Wisconsin. 53704, USA TEL: 1-608-244-9400
So the sting was on the east side.
Internet Solicitation of Prostitutes and Unlawful Trespass.
Solicitation is offering or agreeing to do an act in exchange for $. So once the girls make the deal, they are arrested at the hotel, and anyone other than the person who booked the room is charged with unlawful trespass.
Here's the report. Hayes Road area. I call that the East side but whatever.
http://www.cityofmadison.com/incidentreports/incidentDetail.cfm?id=14173Did anyone else notice the weird working by the Madison Police.
It targeted women who use sites like backpage.comNotice how it doesn't say they targeted users of backpage, but SITES LIKE backpage. Why would they use such cryptic wording? What other sites besides Backpage even have ads? And why are they focusing on the internet, leaving escort advertisers in the Isthmus newspapers alone?
Here is a slightly longer story from madison. Com, which may or may not have made it into the local rag. The story contains names, so the moderators can feel free to delete this if inappropriate. Although it wasn't exactly hard to look this up. http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime_and_courts/four-women-arrested-in-prostitution-sting-on-northeast-side/article_ca0eacc4-8740-11e2-8a80-001a4bcf887a.html
Howard5354
03-18-13, 19:10
The Law came down on sexual predators and chopped 17 down trying to hook up with children. They have to make the perp walk now.
http://www.wbay.com/story/21667507/2013/03/18/operation-black-veil-17-arrested-in-internet-crimes-against-children-sting
The Law came down on sexual predators and chopped 17 down trying to hook up with children. They have to make the perp walk now.
http://www.wbay.com/story/21667507/2013/03/18/operation-black-veil-17-arrested-in-internet-crimes-against-children-stingLE should crack down hard and constantly on anybody trying to go after a minor. They should leave adult hobbyists and adult providers the hell alone.
Howard5354
05-16-13, 09:00
They thought she was dead but good pussy never dies. When they were burying her. She woke up. I guess she had more banging to do.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/prostitute-who-died-having-sex-in-hotel-climbs-from-coffin-screaming-at-police/story-fnd134gw-1226606686819
They thought she was dead but good pussy never dies. When they were burying her. She woke up. I guess she had more banging to do.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/prostitute-who-died-having-sex-in-hotel-climbs-from-coffin-screaming-at-police/story-fnd134gw-1226606686819That sounds like chow from the movie Hangover.
Howard5354
06-07-13, 04:48
Escorts better not mess around in Texas. If the dude pays for the pussy they better not try to scam him or they can be shot.
http://gawker.com/texas-says-its-ok-to-shoot-an-escort-if-she-wont-have-511636423
As they say, don't mess with Texas.
Howard5354
06-07-13, 04:49
http://gawker.com/5630687/your-post+craigslist-guide-to-buying-sex-online
Not very good reporting, they didn't mention that some adult services are still available on CL.
http://gawker.com/5630687/your-post
+craigslist-guide-to-buying-sex-online
Howard5354
06-09-13, 08:00
Hooker pepper sprays teen and steals his piggy bank and IPAD but she did not know that the IPAD could be tracked. Now its slammer time for this crook.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/hooker-robs-teen-piggy-bank-ipad-article-1.1334290
Howard5354
06-09-13, 08:03
I guess there are some people who loved Hitler.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/pimped-cash-article-1.1360856
Pimps were getting paid
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/father-son-busted-charges-running-multimillion-dollar-sex-ring-article-1.1066224
One provider claimed that she made a half million a year. She must be super hot.
Howard5354
07-26-13, 06:23
They drove from Milwaukee to Iowa City, a small city, to do some whoring. Looks like the cops made the appointment on Back Page. Why they drove all the way from Milw to this small town to sell pussy is beyond me. The ladies probably paid the fine but the dude is charged with pimping so he may be still in the slammer. He needs to go back to pimping school.
http://www.wqow.com/story/22885586/2013/07/19/six-arrested-in-johnson-county-prostitution-sting
Howard5354
07-26-13, 06:36
I guess she earned it from stripper, probably escorting too. But she was smart and declared income each year otherwise they would have kept all the cash.
She does not look like a stripper but I could be wrong here but it is pretty stupid to carry that much money in the trunk of a car. The Feds are combing her tax returns now.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2375676/Judge-orders-strippers-1-million-cash-life-savings-returned--year-state-trooper-confiscated-drugs-money.html
http://www.inquisitr.com/866730/stripper-million-judge-says-give-money-back/
Howard5354
08-03-13, 13:34
Operation Flush the Johns.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/104-johns-nabbed-nassau-county-pay-sex-article-1.1361717
http://www.kenoshanews.com/news/seven_arrested_in_prostitution_sting_472697186.html
http://wearegreenbay.com/1fulltext-sports-ncaa?nxd_id=213742
http://www.wauwatosanow.com/news/52448697.html
Howard5354
08-06-13, 07:05
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/aug/02/memphis-man-accused-of-forcing-wisconsin-girl/
Howard5354
08-19-13, 11:30
Dude, at least wait until the honeymoon is over before mongering.
http://chicagoist.com/2013/05/15/man_arrested_prostitution_honeymoon.php
Howard5354
10-12-13, 07:13
http://wifc.com/news/articles/2013/sep/25/man-arrested-in-sex-sting-operation-commits-suicide/
http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/article/20130924/WDH0101/309240228/Four-arrested-Wausau-prostitution-sting
Man may have committed suicide.
http://wifc.com/news/articles/2013/sep/25/man-arrested-in-sex-sting-operation-commits-suicide/
Know who you are going to see. Read reviews. If you are busted, roll with it, not worth your life.
http://wifc.com/news/articles/2013/sep/25/man-arrested-in-sex-sting-operation-commits-suicide/
http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/article/20130924/WDH0101/309240228/Four-arrested-Wausau-prostitution-sting
Man may have committed suicide.
http://wifc.com/news/articles/2013/sep/25/man-arrested-in-sex-sting-operation-commits-suicide/
Know who you are going to see. Read reviews. If you are busted, roll with it, not worth your life.Man that's awful.
Here is a guy who should have been a member here: http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2022044490_lostlaptopxml.html?prmid=obinsite.
Howard5354
10-19-13, 08:41
Here is a guy who should have been a member here: http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2022044490_lostlaptopxml.html?prmid=obinsite.Coochie tells us to leave everything in the trunk of the car. You don't take anything except your hard dick in to see the provider. If she is cool then go back and get the cash. You do not barter with your lap top. She pawned it. I hope he enjoyed that pussy and ass.
Howard5354
11-04-13, 21:38
Crazy mofo burned her up but he claims that he did not kill her.
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/sheriff-evansville-man-admits-to-burning-body-of-missing-fitchburg/article_038ba186-0de1-5669-8940-1e18153cda97.html
Howard5354
11-05-13, 17:25
Crazy mofo burned her up but he claims that he did not kill her.
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/sheriff-evansville-man-admits-to-burning-body-of-missing-fitchburg/article_038ba186-0de1-5669-8940-1e18153cda97.htmlOne of my friends called me today and gave me the real deal (if you can believe her). She said that the lady who was burned up advertised regularly on BP. She was doing an outcall to this maniac and something went wrong and he burned her for five days. All they found were teeth and one bone. Ladies should be very wary of outcalls. He picked her up.
Here is another side of Disney Land http://www.clickorlando.com/news/deputies-osceola-co-woman-accused-of-selling-daughters-as-prostitutes/-/1637132/22763368/-/10wii4lz/-/index.html.
One of my friends called me today and gave me the real deal (if you can believe her). She said that the lady who was burned up advertised regularly on BP. She was doing an outcall to this maniac and something went wrong and he burned her for five days. All they found were teeth and one bone. Ladies should be very wary of outcalls. He picked her up.I never saw her, but I still feel horrible about this. Thanks to this Asshole, providers will be a lot less accommodating.
Howard5354
11-08-13, 07:33
I never saw her, but I still feel horrible about this. Thanks to this Asshole, providers will be a lot less accommodating.This punk finally confessed that he met her online. They went to her place to fuck and when he woke up in the morning she was dead and he got rattled and burned the body. We know that he is not telling the truth because even an newbie provider would have had a time limit and would have wanted to leave after sex and she would not have taken a massive amount of drugs before fucking as he now claims but there is no way to verify the story so he could walk.
OldFatUglyGuy
11-08-13, 12:08
This punk finally confessed that he met her online. They went to her place to fuck and when he woke up in the morning she was dead and he got rattled and burned the body. We know that he is not telling the truth because even an newbie provider would have had a time limit and would have wanted to leave after sex and she would not have taken a massive amount of drugs before fucking as he now claims but there is no way to verify the story so he could walk.You hit it right on the mark she would of needed the money go get the drugs after not before.don't forget the part about sending his girlfriend to the store to get stuff for smores while tending the fire
Maybe the state will add a new department. Fire pit inspector.. So you must get a permit to have a smore party and the fire imspector will be at your door to see that you are not torching fluffy your pet its sick I know, but when a fire burns 24/7 for a week near a small town on a major highway. It proves that people don't care, except for themselves, or it would have been reported. If I start a fire and don't notify the police that I'm doing it, and someone calls it in, I'm subject to a heafty fine. We couldn't save a life, but evidence may have been preserved if someone would have called it in.
Howard5354
11-09-13, 06:36
Maybe the state will add a new department. Fire pit inspector.. So you must get a permit to have a smore party and the fire imspector will be at your door to see that you are not torching fluffy your pet its sick I know, but when a fire burns 24/7 for a week near a small town on a major highway. It proves that people don't care, except for themselves, or it would have been reported. If I start a fire and don't notify the police that I'm doing it, and someone calls it in, I'm subject to a heafty fine. We couldn't save a life, but evidence may have been preserved if someone would have called it in.He lived way out in the country where people tend to mind their own business and it is not unusual to burn trash or yard debris. The poor girl was probably dead long before he dismembered her and burned her. This is the kind of stuff fictional characters like Dexter or Lecter would do, not someone supposedly of normal intelligence. So no one would have suspected this. All evidence aside, this dude is going away for the rest of his life. His girl friend will turn state's evidence and sell his ass out. They always do especially if they are facing life. A jury will convict.
TheSweetMissZ
11-09-13, 12:37
I think you guys are absolutely right. A story like this is exactly why (I think) most providers are terrified of in home outcalls. Like many aspects of life, one bad apple spoils the bunch. Just my humble opinion, I truly feel bad for the type of clients that are home bound!
He lived way out in the country where people tend to mind their own business and it is not unusual to burn trash or yard debris. The poor girl was probably dead long before he dismembered her and burned her. This is the kind of stuff fictional characters like Dexter or Lecter would do, not someone supposedly of normal intelligence. So no one would have suspected this. All evidence aside, this dude is going away for the rest of his life. His girl friend will turn state's evidence and sell his ass out. They always do especially if they are facing life. A jury will convict.I just shake my head over stuff like this. This guy is so sick, may he never see the light of day again and rots in prison. Reading the news it sounds as if she responded to an ad he placed. Or am I getting that wrong?
Madisonmassage
05-20-14, 16:36
http://www.channel3000.com/news/police-spa-linked-to-prostitution-2-arrested/26073382
My experience was not quite at this level. Based on the pics I'm glad it wasn't!
http://www.channel3000.com/news/police-spa-linked-to-prostitution-2-arrested/26073382
My experience was not quite at this level. Based on the pics I'm glad it wasn't!I never visited the Fei Fei Spa, by all the reports here the place was playing it straight. Hard to believe men from all over the globe were visiting Monona looking for a happy ending.
On one hand a bummer but on the other thankfully I was not there when uncle LEO arrived. I have been frequenting the place for a few months, had several appointments with the two pictured, but never noticed foreign or out of state plates guess I need to pay closer attention. I am not sure why anyone would travel long distances for what was on the menu there. Oh well back to looking for good, clean, cheap fun.
On one hand a bummer but on the other thankfully I was not there when uncle LEO arrived. I have been frequenting the place for a few months, had several appointments with the two pictured, but never noticed foreign or out of state plates guess I need to pay closer attention. I am not sure why anyone would travel long distances for what was on the menu there. Oh well back to looking for good, clean, cheap fun.Why all the fuss over the new place on Monona drive? Geshia house and rising sun have been in business for over 20 yeaars and you don't go there to play checkers. Yet they continue to operate as usual and not a word about them from our guys in blue. Why?
Why all the fuss over the new place on Monona drive? Geshia house and rising sun have been in business for over 20 yeaars and you don't go there to play checkers. Yet they continue to operate as usual and not a word about them from our guys in blue. Why?That's all there is. Simply it's all that is Monona. And, why bother to compare the the two communities. Don't.
Howard5354
06-04-14, 19:57
Why all the fuss over the new place on Monona drive? Geshia house and rising sun have been in business for over 20 yeaars and you don't go there to play checkers. Yet they continue to operate as usual and not a word about them from our guys in blue. Why?Rule the world even here in Madison. Grease the right palms and you can even become President. Does this answer your question?
http://www.wkow.com/story/27988495/2015/01/30/madison-man-pleads-guilty-convicted-of-human-trafficking http://www.channel3000.com/news/state-prosecutes-first-case-under-new-human-trafficking-law/31015212. Anyone have any inside info on this?
Howard5354
02-02-15, 20:26
http://www.wkow.com/story/27988495/2015/01/30/madison-man-pleads-guilty-convicted-of-human-trafficking http://www.channel3000.com/news/state-prosecutes-first-case-under-new-human-trafficking-law/31015212. Anyone have any inside info on this?Sapp is making a lot of bread as a NFL commentator but he gets nabbed for solicitation of a prostitute at the Superbowl. Well he can kiss his NBC commentator gig good bye.
Old N Stiff
02-19-15, 20:25
http://www.channel3000.com/news/East-Washington-Avenue-hotels-motels-form-crime-fighting-alliance/31349162
Heard from a provider that East side hotels are very serious about creating a data base of suspected providers that will be shared with LE as well as within their alliance.
Howard5354
02-20-15, 07:48
Sapp is making a lot of bread as a NFL commentator but he gets nabbed for solicitation of a prostitute at the Superbowl. Well he can kiss his NBC commentator gig good bye.He should have paid the piper instead of getting into a brawl over up charges. Now he is fucked. You would think that a guy with his kind of cash flow could attract a hottie.
Howard5354
02-20-15, 07:50
http://www.channel3000.com/news/East-Washington-Avenue-hotels-motels-form-crime-fighting-alliance/31349162
Heard from a provider that East side hotels are very serious about creating a data base of suspected providers that will be shared with LE as well as within their alliance.Talk about wearing out a good thing. Most of the escort congregate on one part of town, the cheap ass motels on the East Side. They should diversify. Now the hotels are being forced to work with the cops to clean up their act. Everyone is going to get burned including Perkins, the Mall, KFC, where they eat, even the gas stations.
Talk about wearing out a good thing. Most of the escort congregate on one part of town, the cheap ass motels on the East Side. They should diversify. Now the hotels are being forced to work with the cops to clean up their act. Everyone is going to get burned including Perkins, the Mall, KFC, where they eat, even the gas stations.Just a thought here but has anyone else wondered about what information is being shared exactly or for that matter privacy issues. There are lots of privacy protections in todays day and age and it's kind of funny to think that if you walked up to a front desk and asked what room someone is in or anything else about them they won't give it out. However, handing out private information about someone to numerous other hotels, people, police when there has been no guilt found seems like it could possibly be questionable in terms of legality. However, as we all know cops do whatever the hell they want. It's not innocent until proven guilty anymore but guilty till proven innocent and proving your innocent is damn near impossible because they won't allow that between the courts and cops either!
I'm just wondering if you could get another news outlet to bring it up along with the fact that what is to say that the hotels don't make mistakes and give out names of people that are not at all involved in illegal activities. Then you are looking at a defamation of character or similar type of suit potentially. Bottom line is that if the hotel suspects illegal activity then they should call the cops not be allowed to share information to every other hotel and other potential individuals in the city.
Howard5354
03-01-15, 10:55
Just a thought here but has anyone else wondered about what information is being shared exactly or for that matter privacy issues. There are lots of privacy protections in todays day and age and it's kind of funny to think that if you walked up to a front desk and asked what room someone is in or anything else about them they won't give it out. However, handing out private information about someone to numerous other hotels, people, police when there has been no guilt found seems like it could possibly be questionable in terms of legality. However, as we all know cops do whatever the hell they want. It's not innocent until proven guilty anymore but guilty till proven innocent and proving your innocent is damn near impossible because they won't allow that between the courts and cops either!
I'm just wondering if you could get another news outlet to bring it up along with the fact that what is to say that the hotels don't make mistakes and give out names of people that are not at all involved in illegal activities. Then you are looking at a defamation of character or similar type of suit potentially. Bottom line is that if the hotel suspects illegal activity then they should call the cops not be allowed to share information to every other hotel and other potential individuals in the city.Some of the east side hotel are known places of illegal drug and gang activities. They should diversify.
Some of the east side hotel are known places of illegal drug and gang activities. They should diversify.Care to elaborate on diversify or are you saying that you are in agreement with what they are doing with the new collaborations and info sharing?
Howard5354
03-03-15, 18:58
Care to elaborate on diversify or are you saying that you are in agreement with what they are doing with the new collaborations and info sharing?Most of the busts are at the east side dumps. You go over there and thugs are hanging out in the parking lot waiting for the ladies to get paid so they can get paid. The collaboration and info sharing is a scam just to get rid of some of the thugs. Selling booty is tolerated in Madison just as it is in most cities but you have to keep it in check and not let it get out of control.
Very rough pics, middle woman looks looks vaguely BP familiar, however, not really sure. Anyone recognize? http://www.channel3000.com/news/3-women-1-man-arrested-in-edgerton-drug-prostitution-sting/33153734.
Howard5354
05-22-15, 10:48
Very rough pics, middle woman looks looks vaguely BP familiar, however, not really sure. Anyone recognize? http://www.channel3000.com/news/3-women-1-man-arrested-in-edgerton-drug-prostitution-sting/33153734.The ladies look like meth heads. The dude with the dreds looks like Lenny Kravith.
SconnieCarl
05-22-15, 15:17
The ladies look like meth heads. The dude with the dreds looks like Lenny Kravith.Kelly? Could be her after a bust.
Sconnie.
I don't know if many of you have used the site Adult Friend Finder but the files were hacked and the results are freely available online. If you used a separate e-mail address and didn't include any "real" personal information and didn't link it to social media accounts you should be fine. If you didn't? Be careful!
If nothing else you might see an increase in spam.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/22/technology/adult-friendfinder-hacked/index.html
Howard5354
05-29-15, 14:05
http://www.inquisitr.com/25563/man-calls-a-prostitute-his-own-daughter-shows-up-dbp/
HornyGuy Lif
05-30-15, 01:41
I heard the Rock co. Sheriff being interviewed on the local radio station about the latest incident involving a BP girl. The third incident lately and the far worst. The 19 year old Who was allegedly beaten and or stabbed to death by the alleged customer in a dispute over money owed. Any way the sheriff stated a crackdown is called for and being planned. I had always thought it was really unfair and very prejudice that girls would place no black men in their ads. But after what this guy allegedly did I guess I see why. It still does not seem right to discriminate though.
Watch out for stings in the future down here.
Howard5354
07-26-15, 10:20
Man shot dead with his own gun by escort after trying to strangle her is linked to a string of prostitute deaths where women were dismembered.
45-year-old Neal Falls was shot with his own gun after he beat and choked a woman in her home.
Authorities are now investigating whether he could be connected to other unsolved cases of murdered and missing women.
Authorities found handcuffs, bleach, bulletproof vests, cutting instruments and firearms in the suspect's vehicle.
Their findings make it 'likely' that Falls had been involved in similar crimes.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3173571/Man-shot-dead-gun-escort-trying-strangle-linked-string-prostitute-deaths-women-dismembered.html#ixzz3 h0 Vl1 yFr.
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Well, I'd be willing to bet that these guys were at the strip club / massage parlor / escorts and got ripped off. So now they are too embarrassed to talk about it. I could be wrong, but it's starting to look like the only explanation.
Even if I'm wrong. It's an important reminder that mongering in foreign countries can be fun. And risky too!
Fishdude.
Howard5354
08-19-16, 04:38
Well, I'd be willing to bet that these guys were at the strip club / massage parlor / escorts and got ripped off. So now they are too embarrassed to talk about it. I could be wrong, but it's starting to look like the only explanation.
Even if I'm wrong. It's an important reminder that mongering in foreign countries can be fun. And risky too!
Fishdude.They don't need to monger. All that good pussy in the Olympic Village, even Simone Biles was getting her ass banged by Zac and a Brazilian dude. The entire Olympic Village was banging so pussy was everywhere virtually free! They even had a pussy app. They were just bar hopping and drunk.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/07/497006100/ceo-of-backpage-com-arrested-charged-with-pimping
Still appears to be open, but I'd be careful.
http://www.channel3000.com/news/madison-massage-parlor-owners-charged-with-running-a-brothel/42165250
Howard5354
10-21-16, 09:57
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/07/497006100/ceo-of-backpage-com-arrested-charged-with-pimpingElection is near.
Old N Stiff
10-21-16, 19:27
It's sad that there is more to be said on this page than others
Another news report. . .
http://www.channel3000.com/news/2-face-charge-in-potential-human-trafficking-case-in-Madison/42195560
Not sure if people noticed / knew, but this afternoon was the prelim hearing for operators / owners of RS. Guessing there was a reporter there, but don't know if anything newsy happened.
Incitatus09
03-16-17, 11:59
Not sure if people noticed / knew, but this afternoon was the prelim hearing for operators / owners of RS. Guessing there was a reporter there, but don't know if anything newsy happened.According to the State Journal the charges were advanced. However the 6 year statute of limitations may be a determining factor.
Howard5354
03-18-17, 12:26
March Madness is time for basketball and pussy. Downtown Madison's pubs is packed with pussy waiting to be fucked. So get on down there and get some of this college pussy.
March Madness is time for basketball and pussy. Downtown Madison's pubs is packed with pussy waiting to be fucked. So get on down there and get some of this college pussy.Do you have any tips, Howard? I'm sure it is not a great idea to be asking around in public.
Howard5354
03-23-17, 07:34
Do you have any tips, Howard? I'm sure it is not a great idea to be asking around in public.All I can tell you is go down State Street, spot a pub loaded with hot babes drinking, go in and work the magic. There are a few hotels with bars, so get off that couch and go get that pussy.
RawlSocket
03-24-17, 10:30
All I can tell you is go down State Street, spot a pub loaded with hot babes drinking, go in and work the magic. There are a few hotels with bars, so get off that couch and go get that pussy.OMG, why haven't we thought of this before? It's so simple! Your a genius Howard!
All I can tell you is go down State Street, spot a pub loaded with hot babes drinking, go in and work the magic. There are a few hotels with bars, so get off that couch and go get that pussy.Care to elaborate on the "magic" part?
Howard5354
03-27-17, 08:24
Care to elaborate on the "magic" part?Young college girls are fucking like rabbits but you must work the magic to get pussy. Its good to go after pussy without the assistance of $. Just rap up on some pussy. Go to the bars during a special event and see what you can land. Don't forget about revenge pussy.
Sanctimonious6
03-27-17, 14:40
Young college girls are fucking like rabbits but you must work the magic to get pussy. Its good to go after pussy without the assistance of $. Just rap up on some pussy. Go to the bars during a special event and see what you can land. Don't forget about revenge pussy.This is brilliant. It is a well-known fact that hot college girls prefer to fuck pudgy middle-aged guys they meet in a bar rather than fucking cute, fit college boys they meet in a bar. And yes, the revenge factor. "Fuck you, unfaithful boyfriend, I just screwed some puffy geezer who looks like your dad. So there!
Howard5354
03-27-17, 16:10
This is brilliant. It is a well-known fact that hot college girls prefer to fuck pudgy middle-aged guys they meet in a bar rather than fucking cute, fit college boys they meet in a bar. And yes, the revenge factor. "Fuck you, unfaithful boyfriend, I just screwed some puffy geezer who looks like your dad. So there!I banged my share of them and I am considered an obese fat ass dude. I still pull a college girl or two at the health club from time to time. I keep one of my viagra pills packed inside my gym bag in the event that I catch some hot young college pussy. Just the other day, my neighbor told me that she kicked her hubby out the house. Poor sap had to rent an apartment in the next neighborhood. I think he got caught banging, so I will more than likely hit it soon. Revenge pussy again!
OldFatUglyGuy
03-28-17, 11:16
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Member #6005
03-28-17, 11:24
I banged my share of them and I am considered an obese fat ass dude. I still pull a college girl or two at the health club from time to time. I keep one of my viagra pills packed inside my gym bag in the event that I catch some hot young college pussy. Just the other day, my neighbor told me that she kicked her hubby out the house. Poor sap had to rent an apartment in the next neighborhood. I think he got caught banging, so I will more than likely hit it soon. Revenge pussy again!Pass the bong.
Sanctimonious6
03-28-17, 11:55
This sounds like penthouse forum, and just about as believable. LOL.I'll be damned, it worked! On Howard's advice, I hit the Kollege Klub last night and banged 14 hot coeds. Then headed over to Wando's and banged 9 more. I don't know why I didn't start "working my magic" sooner. Could have saved a lot of money.
RawlSocket
03-28-17, 21:39
I'll be damned, it worked! On Howard's advice, I hit the Kollege Klub last night and banged 14 hot coeds. Then headed over to Wando's and banged 9 more. I don't know why I didn't start "working my magic" sooner. Could have saved a lot of money.Go get that pussy!
Howard5354
04-12-17, 15:35
You cannot afford prime college pussy.
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/College-Students-Arrested-in-Coral-Gables-Prostitution-Sting-417704393.html
Justin Credibl
04-13-17, 13:22
You cannot afford prime college pussy.
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/College-Students-Arrested-in-Coral-Gables-Prostitution-Sting-417704393.htmlBilly might have had a cigar with Her http://heavy.com/news/2017/03/acacia-friedman-bill-clinton-photo-picture/ Donnie was hoping for a shower.
Howard5354
04-13-17, 19:38
Billy might have had a cigar with Her http://heavy.com/news/2017/03/acacia-friedman-bill-clinton-photo-picture/ Donnie was hoping for a shower.Chump change for slick Willie.
Mad Jockey
04-14-17, 12:05
You cannot afford prime college pussy.
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/College-Students-Arrested-in-Coral-Gables-Prostitution-Sting-417704393.htmlIf I read the story right she was offered $5,000 and more if BB even porn stars don't charge that!
Howard5354
04-14-17, 15:54
If I read the story right she was offered $5,000 and more if BB even porn stars don't charge that!On quality of the pussy and the pockets of the client. $5,000 is nothing for a millionaire or billionaire.
I have known many millionaires and one billionaire. Not a one of them got there by treating 5K as nothing. All of them, without exception, have been tight as fuck when it came to spending for pussy. They all seem to understand the inverse relationship between great service and lavishness that happens with commercial sex workers.
Not saying there wouldn't be some pussy I wouldn't spend 5K on for a night, just saying I'd have to look at it pretty closely.
A2
Howard5354
05-27-17, 05:17
That they did not lose one of their kidneys that sell for $10,000 or more on the black market. Marines picked up some local hot Columbian pussy, took them back to their hotel and were drugged and robbed.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/article152948834.html
Only Human
06-09-17, 09:07
Saw this as I was shuffling through.
http://madison.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/private-real-landlord-wanted-fwb/20577488
The add says this.
"We have been working under cover to shut BP down. Now the truth is I am very happily married to a wonderful man we live in a beautiful home my husband is a police officer and he asked me to help to work on this project to save these young girls and keep them safe and to know there is a better life then being an escort. Every response was reported and recorded because of us there have been many arrests. This site will be shut down completely so no other women will be sexually violated. Finding out who these sexual predators was very scary as we know many of them. The names of the men which will all be listed go from very high class to the lowest class. We will continue our work as it just beginning. ".
Although my uncle is probably checking this site often, I don't think he would tell you he got you until it was to late.
Howard5354
06-09-17, 18:06
Saw this as I was shuffling through.
http://madison.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/private-real-landlord-wanted-fwb/20577488
The add says this.
"We have been working under cover to shut BP down. Now the truth is I am very happily married to a wonderful man we live in a beautiful home my husband is a police officer and he asked me to help to work on this project to save these young girls and keep them safe and to know there is a better life then being an escort. Every response was reported and recorded because of us there have been many arrests. This site will be shut down completely so no other women will be sexually violated. Finding out who these sexual predators was very scary as we know many of them. The names of the men which will all be listed go from very high class to the lowest class. We will continue our work as it just beginning. ".
Although my uncle is probably checking this site often, I don't think he would tell you he got you until it was to late.Post is gone now. Be careful or you may be making the perp walk.
Saw this as I was shuffling through.
http://madison.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/private-real-landlord-wanted-fwb/20577488
The add says this.
"We have been working under cover to shut BP down. Now the truth is I am very happily married to a wonderful man we live in a beautiful home my husband is a police officer and he asked me to help to work on this project to save these young girls and keep them safe and to know there is a better life then being an escort. Every response was reported and recorded because of us there have been many arrests. This site will be shut down completely so no other women will be sexually violated. Finding out who these sexual predators was very scary as we know many of them. The names of the men which will all be listed go from very high class to the lowest class. We will continue our work as it just beginning. ".
Although my uncle is probably checking this site often, I don't think he would tell you he got you until it was to late.This is some chick who's married to a guy that likes fucking hookers. They make shit like this up because it makes them feel powerful because somebody is always dumb enough to fall for it.
You can see it in the language they use.
A2.
DieselMike
06-10-17, 07:21
On quality of the pussy and the pockets of the client. $5,000 is nothing for a millionaire or billionaire.
I have known many millionaires and one billionaire. Not a one of them got there by treating 5K as nothing. All of them, without exception, have been tight as fuck when it came to spending for pussy. They all seem to understand the inverse relationship between great service and lavishness that happens with commercial sex workers.
Not saying there wouldn't be some pussy I wouldn't spend 5K on for a night, just saying I'd have to look at it pretty closely.
A2Let me re-affirm what A2 said. I know a few successful business guys. Maybe not millionaires but definitely all-American "rags to riches" success stories. These guys got there by squeezing the most out of every dollar they ever made. Savvy business dudes don't spend any more than they have to for ANYTHING. There may be some that have more $$ than brains but a smart guy knows that $100 pussy is just as good as $200 pussy. $5 K? No way in hell!
Former NY AG Spitzer paid $1 K for a top-notch call girl. Maybe that's the going rate in those circles?
LoveSmallPerky
06-10-17, 12:29
Former NY AG Spitzer paid $1 K for a top-notch call girl. Maybe that's the going rate in those circles?He did pay a bit more but if I remember correctly it was for quite a bit of time, many hours.
Howard5354
06-11-17, 08:43
He did pay a bit more but if I remember correctly it was for quite a bit of time, many hours.It was $5,000 dollar pussy.
Howard5354
07-02-17, 19:09
Paid $2 and would not give her the edible panties.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4658988/Woman-stabs-man-didn-t-edible-panties.html
JackEyedOne
07-04-17, 21:08
Paid $2 and would not give her the edible panties.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4658988/Woman-stabs-man-didn-t-edible-panties.html"Prostitute 'stabs 70-year-old man after he failed to give her edible panties he had agreed to give her as payment along with $2 in quarters'.
After reading this I thought "He was stabbed where and with what? Maybe that's what he was into?" But then I read the rest of the article.
Wonder if this means that the blind eye won't be blind much longer.
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/sex-trafficking-pervasive-in-madison-police-detective-reports/article_600d6eac-7fe3-5ee0-8028-3daf016802b0.html
Wonder if this means that the blind eye won't be blind much longer.
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/sex-trafficking-pervasive-in-madison-police-detective-reports/article_600d6eac-7fe3-5ee0-8028-3daf016802b0.htmlThat picture is of this girl that posts often LOL.
http://madison.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/60-80-special-better-than-the-rest-the-ultimate-curvy-treat/20886298
RawlSocket
07-21-17, 22:53
That picture is of this girl that posts often LOL.
http://madison.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/60-80-special-better-than-the-rest-the-ultimate-curvy-treat/20886298Yeah, that was the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw that pic!
Howard5354
07-22-17, 10:01
Wonder if this means that the blind eye won't be blind much longer.
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/sex-trafficking-pervasive-in-madison-police-detective-reports/article_600d6eac-7fe3-5ee0-8028-3daf016802b0.htmlMay be time for you to cool your heels a little cause the heat is here. Be careful or you may find yourself making the perp walk or outlined in yellow on the side walk.
Be careful.
http://www.nbc26.com/news/twenty-arrested-in-undercover-prostitution-investigation
Howard5354
07-26-17, 02:58
Be careful.
http://www.nbc26.com/news/twenty-arrested-in-undercover-prostitution-investigationRomeos better cool your heels, the heat is here now. One of the dudes is from CA. Like Gunsmoke said, be careful or make the perp walk.
Be careful.
http://www.nbc26.com/news/twenty-arrested-in-undercover-prostitution-investigationI'm only guessing but the guy from California probably flew in for EAA. Lots of movers and shakers there this week!
SeanStyles
07-28-17, 01:30
I'm only guessing but the guy from California probably flew in for EAA. Lots of movers and shakers there this week!Agreed. These big events pull in the hitters. As Howard said, Romeos better cool your heals.
BulletsNBrains
09-14-17, 14:54
Watch out!
http://www.channel3000.com/news/attorney-general-announces-new-human-trafficking-bureau/620185345
SeanStyles
09-14-17, 23:14
Watch out!
http://www.channel3000.com/news/attorney-general-announces-new-human-trafficking-bureau/620185345I just came here to post the same. The cops are actively seeking "johns". Watch out!
Edit: New Link: http://www.channel3000.com/news/crime/dozens-arrested-in-sex-predator-sting-in-northern-eastern-wisconsin/620891556
Watch out!
HornyGuy Lif
09-15-17, 00:02
Watch out!
http://www.channel3000.com/news/attorney-general-announces-new-human-trafficking-bureau/620185345Definitely want to steer clear of these places with Asian girls that don't speak English or very little English. Have a suspection these will be places that get targeted first.
BulletsNBrains
09-16-17, 20:26
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155638099763187&id=49800458186
AsiaPhileJake1
09-16-17, 21:27
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155638099763187&id=49800458186Why is there so many in Vilas County?
FunnyHead2
09-16-17, 22:23
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155638099763187&id=49800458186I've always wondered if the active contributors who disappear fell into these stings. Be safe everyone!
Howard5354
09-17-17, 04:50
2018 is around the corner so its time for more perp walks!
The "manager" deserves to go down.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/06/20/stars-cabaret-strip-club-pay-1-25-million-13-year-old-dancer/413508001/
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) An Oregon strip club has agreed to pay $1. 25 million to a dancer it employed when she was 13 years old.
Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian made the announcement Tuesday, saying it's the largest settlement the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries has ever secured for an individual worker.
A case involving a second underage minor employed by Stars Cabaret in Beaverton remains pending.
The 13-year-old girl was hired in 2012 to dance nude for customers and have sex with them in a back room. Former Stars Cabaret manager Steven Toth was sentenced to 15 years in prison for his role in the prostitution.
https://gizmodo.com/how-facebook-outs-sex-workers-1818861596
I've not run into this, but I did have Facebook suggest I add an ex-girlfriend with whom I have zero contact with; broke up with her years ago, before Facebook was really a thing. I always assumed it was due to an obscure link between friends of friends of friends, but who knows.
https://gizmodo.com/how-facebook-outs-sex-workers-1818861596
I've not run into this, but I did have Facebook suggest I add an ex-girlfriend with whom I have zero contact with; broke up with her years ago, before Facebook was really a thing. I always assumed it was due to an obscure link between friends of friends of friends, but who knows.I had Facebook suggest a provider I'd seen a couple of times, as well as a therapeutic massage therapist I saw several years ago, and the woman who cuts my hair. Really creepy. I ended up telling all three of them, and not friending any of them.
Member #6005
10-13-17, 07:30
https://gizmodo.com/how-facebook-outs-sex-workers-1818861596
I've not run into this, but I did have Facebook suggest I add an ex-girlfriend with whom I have zero contact with; broke up with her years ago, before Facebook was really a thing. I always assumed it was due to an obscure link between friends of friends of friends, but who knows.Perfect digital hygiene is nearly impossible. There are many ways to triangulate connections. The best way to avoid Facebook's suggestions is to delete your account.
RawlSocket
10-13-17, 10:59
Perfect digital hygiene is nearly impossible. There are many ways to triangulate connections. The best way to avoid Facebook's suggestions is to delete your account.This is true. It also addresses the argument about burner phones vs apps on your personal phone to hide your activity. Burner for me all the time.
SeanStyles
10-14-17, 01:56
Perfect digital hygiene is nearly impossible. There are many ways to triangulate connections. The best way to avoid Facebook's suggestions is to delete your account.Facebook allows you to "deactivate" your account, but you can't "delete" it. Hotel California style. You may go but you can never leave.
I'd suggest turning off location services & GPS too. It's basically a tracking device. Computer servers never sleep.
Member #6005
10-14-17, 08:52
Facebook allows you to "deactivate" your account, but you can't "delete" it. Hotel California style. You may go but you can never leave.
I'd suggest turning off location services & GPS too. It's basically a tracking device. Computer servers never sleep.I think that used to be true, but that changed:
https://www.facebook.com/help/224562897555674?helpref=faq_content
You can actually permanently delete your account. Does that mean all digital traces of your presence within Facebook's data are completely removed? Unlikely.
SeanStyles
10-14-17, 13:13
I think that used to be true, but that changed:
https://www.facebook.com/help/224562897555674?helpref=faq_content
You can actually permanently delete your account. Does that mean all digital traces of your presence within Facebook's data are completely removed? Unlikely.Nice, thanks! Good to know.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/18/florida-police-arrest-277-including-cops-and-doctors-in-sex-sting.amp.html#ampshare=http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/18/florida-police-arrest-277-including-cops-and-doctors-in-sex-sting.html.
Howard5354
10-22-17, 10:07
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/18/florida-police-arrest-277-including-cops-and-doctors-in-sex-sting.amp.html#ampshare=http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/18/florida-police-arrest-277-including-cops-and-doctors-in-sex-sting.html.Thats a lot of perp walks.
Howard5354
10-27-17, 02:37
Thats a lot of perp walks.I am so afraid of making the perp walk. Your entire life changes. People will look at you like a pervert. All you want is some booty and you pay for it. Not hurting anyone.
Sponge Bob
11-10-17, 14:11
Looks like our girl in Stoughton got busted with Mom and friend.
http://www.channel3000.com/news/3-arrested-in-connection-with-prostitution-illegal-drugs-in-stoughton/654491738
Play Safe.
Milo Madison
11-10-17, 16:20
Wonder how much of it was about the sex versus the drugs? I'm betting the drugs are what LEO was after. Just goes too show you can never be too safe.
Looks like our girl in Stoughton got busted with Mom and friend.
http://www.channel3000.com/news/3-arrested-in-connection-with-prostitution-illegal-drugs-in-stoughton/654491738
Play Safe.
BooRadley72
11-10-17, 18:18
Wonder how much of it was about the sex versus the drugs? I'm betting the drugs are what LEO was after. Just goes too show you can never be too safe.Small town LEO monitors social media, craigslist, and backpage. The girl is a known local troublemaker who lists her profession on Facebook as doing drugs. LEO contacted her to buy drugs and set up a "date". The rest you know. Now LEO is looking through her phone, email, and asking her if she has any bigger fish for them to work out a deal. I have friends in Stoughton and have seen her hanging out in town. Not flying under the radar by any stretch.
HornyGuy Lif
11-10-17, 22:08
Looks like our girl in Stoughton got busted with Mom and friend.
http://www.channel3000.com/news/3-arrested-in-connection-with-prostitution-illegal-drugs-in-stoughton/654491738
Play Safe.I hate to be the guy who told you so but I predicted this would happen. You can't get away with stuff in these smaller towns because people talk and gossip. Also cops don't have a lot of crime to keep them occupied.
Howard5354
11-11-17, 04:53
I hate to be the guy who told you so but I predicted this would happen. You can't get away with stuff in these smaller towns because people talk and gossip. Also cops don't have a lot of crime to keep them occupied.They made the perp walk, pics posted, now possible jail time.
Looks like our girl in Stoughton got busted with Mom and friend.
http://www.channel3000.com/news/3-arrested-in-connection-with-prostitution-illegal-drugs-in-stoughton/654491738
Play Safe.Rx abuse will put you on a train wreck path for sure. Too bad, she was quite a looker before she got involved in with the junk.
Member #6005
11-11-17, 15:00
Rx abuse will put you on a train wreck path for sure. Too bad, she was quite a looker before she got involved in with the junk.Yeah, if you look her up on FB and go back a bit, she was amazingly wholesome and cute and fit looking. Fucking train wreck for sure. She's a nice girl. Still whispers of beauty. She's gained massive weight, though.
Sad.
HornyGuy Lif
11-11-17, 22:14
They made the perp walk, pics posted, now possible jail time.Wow she really was 19 year old And her arrest pic looks pretty good. Can't say that for mom's. Far as drugs if she was messing with meth, heroin, or crack she'd be thin not heavy. Guessing to much weed and munchies. Doubt if she's in for long.
MadisonVanMan1
11-12-17, 14:41
Half asleep, one of the talking heads mentioned in the local news that the legislature was looking at moving soliciting a prostitute, of, LEO playing, from a Class A Misdomeaner to a Class I Felony. Reference the Wisconsin Legislature Bill 308, Bill 400, and 2017 Senate Bill 442. (damn, 442's were sweet cars, why did they have to besmerch the good name of 442 with this bill. Before flaming me, google the wisconsin state legislature, 2017, and prostitution. Still in progress, I don't think any of us are going to call our legislature, but, this may put a new thought in our heads, concerning the cost of a Felony conviction. Sh at t.
Howard5354
11-20-17, 14:29
The holidays is the best time of the year to get some prime booty. Most of the mongers will be home with their families but the girls will be still out there so if you can get away for a few hours you know what to do.
Howard5354
11-22-17, 12:35
Charlie Rose, Al Frankin, Rocky, etc falling. Going after that young stuff is bringing them all down. John Conyers, 88, was still after young stuff. Bottom line, leave the young stuff alone.
HornyGuy Lif
11-22-17, 17:25
Probably been covered here before but how would you avoid being set-up by a provider working for or with LE? And avoid doing the perp walk. What can a provider do and say legally to set a guy up? Does it really do any good to place a donation in an envelope? Been thinking about the Stoughton girl and if she comes back or makes a deal.
HornyGuy Lif
11-22-17, 21:11
At a Janesville hotel a 21 year old girl was posing as an escort. A guy came to her room seeking services and she pulled a gun and demanded his money. He resisted and 2 shots were fired. A guy from another room came running and grabbed the gun. Girl got away but cops know who she is and are on the hunt. Looks like the deer aren't the only things being shot at.
http://fox6now.com/2017/11/22/wanted-janesville-police-looking-for-20-year-old-woman-after-shots-fired-inside-hotel/
HornyGuy Lif
11-23-17, 16:27
Charlie Rose, Al Frankin, Rocky, etc falling. Going after that young stuff is bringing them all down. John Conyers, 88, was still after young stuff. Bottom line, leave the young stuff alone.This is probably just the tip of the iceberg. You give guys money and power, plus add hot chicks to the mix. What do you think is going to happen? Charlie Rose? That was a surprise though.
BooRadley72
11-24-17, 09:36
At a Janesville hotel a 21 year old girl was posing as an escort. A guy came to her room seeking services and she pulled a gun and demanded his money. He resisted and 2 shots were fired. A guy from another room came running and grabbed the gun. Girl got away but cops know who she is and are on the hunt. Looks like the deer aren't the only things being shot at.Stupid criminals. Robs him in her room. Uh huh. Anyone see the failure to think this through? Guys. Give them the $$. Walk away. It is a bargain compared to ER visit or legal bills. If you want to call the police, fine but this might take some explaining.
Only Human
11-24-17, 14:21
Half asleep, one of the talking heads mentioned in the local news that the legislature was looking at moving soliciting a prostitute, of, LEO playing, from a Class A Misdomeaner to a Class I Felony. Reference the Wisconsin Legislature Bill 308, Bill 400, and 2017 Senate Bill 442. (damn, 442's were sweet cars, why did they have to besmerch the good name of 442 with this bill. Before flaming me, google the wisconsin state legislature, 2017, and prostitution. Still in progress, I don't think any of us are going to call our legislature, but, this may put a new thought in our heads, concerning the cost of a Felony conviction. Sh at t.Yes, make people felons for consentual acts. Just legalize it and use the tax dollats to root out the real problem, people who force other people / kids into the hobby.
Don't worry all the senators and ultra rich will just bankroll the gov to get out, while normal people go to prison over stupid shit.
HornyGuy Lif
11-24-17, 16:42
Stupid criminals. Robs him in her room. Uh huh. Anyone see the failure to think this through? Guys. Give them the $$. Walk away. It is a bargain compared to ER visit or legal bills. If you want to call the police, fine but this might take some explaining.Which is probably why it has worked for her before. She could use her own room because guys gave her the money and would not report her. It didn't work this time.
AnonymousDude1
11-28-17, 10:13
Half asleep, one of the talking heads mentioned in the local news that the legislature was looking at moving soliciting a prostitute, of, LEO playing, from a Class A Misdomeaner to a Class I Felony. Reference the Wisconsin Legislature Bill 308, Bill 400, and 2017 Senate Bill 442. (damn, 442's were sweet cars, why did they have to besmerch the good name of 442 with this bill. Before flaming me, google the wisconsin state legislature, 2017, and prostitution. Still in progress, I don't think any of us are going to call our legislature, but, this may put a new thought in our heads, concerning the cost of a Felony conviction. Sh at t.I checked the bill text, it adds a $5000 additional penalty for prostitution cases, but wouldn't change jail sentencing, and thus wouldn't suddenly make soliciting a prostitute a felony.
HornyGuy Lif
11-30-17, 14:04
Matt Lauer just got fired too! Alleged sexual misconduct like all the rest. Lots women are coming out with stories about all these TV, movie, and politician guys. Great time to be a lawyer.
DoctorWhoNice
12-01-17, 00:13
Small town LEO monitors social media, craigslist, and backpage. The girl is a known local troublemaker who lists her profession on Facebook as doing drugs. LEO contacted her to buy drugs and set up a "date". The rest you know. Now LEO is looking through her phone, email, and asking her if she has any bigger fish for them to work out a deal. I have friends in Stoughton and have seen her hanging out in town. Not flying under the radar by any stretch.http://atlaspublicrecords.com/name/taylor-j-femrite/stoughton-wi/1d4eef907c03a1efb194?case_details=true
Looks like LEO didn't even bother with prostitution.
DieselMike
12-01-17, 08:48
http://atlaspublicrecords.com/name/taylor-j-femrite/stoughton-wi/1d4eef907c03a1efb194?case_details=true
Looks like LEO didn't even bother with prostitution.Funny things is; no straight job is going to pay those fines / legal bills. Just like supporting a drug habit.
http://madison.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/608-421-9723/25996477
DieselMike
12-03-17, 07:41
http://madison.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/608-421-9723/25996477Link is gone. If this is the Stougton girl; I might want to stay away.
SeanStyles
12-06-17, 22:24
News story.
http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/there-are-people-for-sale-here-madison-authorities-struggle-to/article_a7582aed-f9c2-5007-b2ff-e79ba6efc18c.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true
PorchHonky
12-06-17, 22:38
Hey hear she is wanted by le and seen the news articles somewhere b careful.
News story.
http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/there-are-people-for-sale-here-madison-authorities-struggle-to/article_a7582aed-f9c2-5007-b2ff-e79ba6efc18c.amp.html?__twitter_impression=trueLegalize it, regulate it, tax it.
BooRadley72
12-07-17, 09:45
News story.
http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/there-are-people-for-sale-here-madison-authorities-struggle-to/article_a7582aed-f9c2-5007-b2ff-e79ba6efc18c.amp.html?__twitter_impression=trueThis is the biggest danger to the hobbyist. Just like all the actresses who slept with the movie moguls to get ahead in their career, these prostitutes are now claiming that they're victims I'm sure that some of them are but most just like like the relatively easy money. It's not even safe to meet a girl the conventional way anymore. In our current climate the safest thing to do is stay home and beat off.
BooRadley72
12-07-17, 11:32
Link is gone. If this is the Stougton girl; I might want to stay away.Agreed. Do not make contact with her.
LongRider65
12-19-17, 11:31
News of the death of a Chinese masseuse in New York several weeks ago was sad, but the attempt by her family to learn the truth may be even sadder. Although this article is undoubtedly slanted in favor of the provider, we must always remember that the women we meet in this hobby are humans with a life of their own, and they must be treated with the respect they deserve.
https://injusticetoday.com/family-former-attorney-of-queens-woman-who-fell-to-her-death-in-vice-sting-say-she-was-sexually-d67461a12f1
HornyGuy Lif
12-23-17, 14:24
A Janesville escort may have been involved after the murder of a Janesville woman. Anyone know if it was Nyla / Nikki? The story in the paper states she was arrested for her involvement after the murder. A mexican guy stabbed the poor women 33 times to rob her and steal her car, money, and possessions. Wanted to take off for down south with an escort named Nicole he met at motel 6. Makes me wonder if it was Nyla / Nikki since she stayed there.
An article about how LEO is well aware that rub-maps tells them which AMP's to bust; they don't for various factors, including the amount of time needed and how hard it is to prosecute the people actually running the place.
https://news.wgbh.org/2018/01/16/local-news/illicit-massage-parlors-are-across-massachusetts-why-police-action-so-rare
Sanctimonious6
02-15-18, 20:35
This is why I am generally loathe to TOFTT with an unknown BP advertiser.
http://www.leadertelegram.com/News/Front-Page/2018/02/14/Former-Menomonie-school-board-leader-can-avoid-criminal-record-in-prostitution-case.html
TimWatley1973
02-15-18, 20:52
Says ". Can avoid criminal record in prostitution case" but they post his photo with a big old headline that that says PROSTITUTION. The arrest is nothing compared to the headline. That's why you should always hunt far away from home.
This is why I am generally loathe to TOFTT with an unknown BP advertiser.
http://www.leadertelegram.com/News/Front-Page/2018/02/14/Former-Menomonie-school-board-leader-can-avoid-criminal-record-in-prostitution-case.html
RawlSocket
03-23-18, 11:16
Just saw an article that Craigslist is shutting down the "personals" section completely. Rarely used it, but just another sign the end is near for online advertising.
FishDude55
03-23-18, 15:01
Only a matter of time, and Backpage will be shut down. They've already restricted the ads, with fb accts, instagram and then the stupid switch to phone numbers. What's next?
Just saw an article that Craigslist is shutting down the "personals" section completely. Rarely used it, but just another sign the end is near for online advertising.
Member #6005
03-23-18, 18:54
Just saw an article that Craigslist is shutting down the "personals" section completely. Rarely used it, but just another sign the end is near for online advertising.In my experience CL casual encounters was pure spam anyway. So good riddance.
FishDude55
03-23-18, 18:57
They are still allowing ads in Canada, Asia and Europe. This is a bad sign.
We aren't going anywhere
http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds
Just saying,
A2
RuhrohShaggy
03-23-18, 19:05
The Other Site has also taken down all of their USA ads as well. Not good my friends.
We aren't going anywhere
http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds
Just saying,
A2
Eight years, EIGHT years!
https://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/courts/rising-sun-prostitution-case-ends-quietly-with-dismissal-and-plea/article_922e7b57-3b07-5bc8-b1d6-16f78761fac7.html
http://www.wifr.com/content/news/Dozens-arrested-in-suburban-Chicago-sex-trafficking-stings-492063741.html
http://www.wifr.com/content/news/Dozens-arrested-in-suburban-Chicago-sex-trafficking-stings-492063741.htmlLot of resourses that could have gone into getting guns off the street. But good work cops you busted john's. Way to keep everyone safe.
Howard5354
08-31-18, 16:25
http://www.wifr.com/content/news/Dozens-arrested-in-suburban-Chicago-sex-trafficking-stings-492063741.htmlYes, we don't want to make the perp walk.
RattleHead
08-31-18, 21:57
Lot of resourses that could have gone into getting guns off the street. But good work cops you busted john's. Way to keep everyone safe.Isn't it great how every prostitution bust is immediately attached to sex-trafficking! No one is caught in a prostitution sting, anymore. It's always "part of trafficking investigation". What a joke.
HornyGuy Lif
08-31-18, 22:34
Isn't it great how every prostitution bust is immediately attached to sex-trafficking! No one is caught in a prostitution sting, anymore. It's always "part of trafficking investigation". What a joke.Didn't you know every girl involved in escorting is a victim? And every guy who pays a vist to them is an evil no good despicable villian. That's the media's viewpoint.
FishDude55
08-31-18, 23:06
You are totally right. But this time it really looks like they targeted mostly men and not really the ladies.
Isn't it great how every prostitution bust is immediately attached to sex-trafficking! No one is caught in a prostitution sting, anymore. It's always "part of trafficking investigation". What a joke.
NahtyNikkey
09-01-18, 13:10
Isn't it great how every prostitution bust is immediately attached to sex-trafficking! No one is caught in a prostitution sting, anymore. It's always "part of trafficking investigation". What a joke.Trafficking is thrown in to get the assistance of the feds many times. On a federal level, prostitution isn't illegal per-say unless the woman is not a citizen or is "trafficked" across state lines, underage, etc. The individual states have stricter prostitution laws than the federal government. So in order to garner funding for large stings, its labeled "sex trafficking".
Isn't it great how every prostitution bust is immediately attached to sex-trafficking! No one is caught in a prostitution sting, anymore. It's always "part of trafficking investigation". What a joke.The changed the definition of trafficking to include any time there is someone other than the 2 involved, it gets called trafficking. That's how they shut down all the sites before. The debate among some people that I know is whether the mere recommendation from 1 friend to another now qualifies as trafficking under the new "rules".
Trafficking is thrown in to get the assistance of the feds many times. On a federal level, prostitution isn't illegal per-say unless the woman is not a citizen or is "trafficked" across state lines, underage, etc. The individual states have stricter prostitution laws than the federal government. So in order to garner funding for large stings, its labeled "sex trafficking".I'm sure NahtyNikkey knows more than I do. It has been my impression that its not only individual sting efforts. I was told there was (still is?) annual grant money available from the feds to individual law enforcement agencies for combating "sex trafficking". That's attractive to the agencies since it helps their budget, but they have to show results and that there is trafficking in order to justify getting or continuing to get federal funding. If you have a suburban PD, or a smaller and not so urban municipality where prostitution isn't so common, but they want federal funds, they're going to be aggressive about finding "trafficking".
Howard5354
09-02-18, 13:49
Without backpage, the pickings have gone down considerably, but get prepared backpage is not coming back ever. Village Voice just went out of business. VV owned backpage.
YellowFever82
09-02-18, 14:09
The changed the definition of trafficking to include any time there is someone other than the 2 involved, it gets called trafficking. That's how they shut down all the sites before. The debate among some people that I know is whether the mere recommendation from 1 friend to another now qualifies as trafficking under the new "rules".Is more like pussy Yelp.
But these websites are like collateral damage in the "war against sex trafficking ".
Without backpage, the pickings have gone down considerably, but get prepared backpage is not coming back ever. Village Voice just went out of business. VV owned backpage.You can try yesbackpage ebackpage skipthegames harlothub.
HornyGuy Lif
09-04-18, 23:32
You can try yesbackpage ebackpage skipthegames harlothub.I did yesbackpage, ebackpage, and harlothub are all worthless and suck!
Sanctimonious6
09-05-18, 07:14
VV owned backpage.They were under the same ownership for a while, but not for several years. The owners of backpage bought Village Voice Media in 2005, but they sold all their newspapers back in 2012.
https://www.wbay.com/content/news/19-arrested-in-investigation-targeting-people-who-pay-for-sex-492705801.html
BooRadley72
09-07-18, 17:39
https://www.wbay.com/content/news/19-arrested-in-investigation-targeting-people-who-pay-for-sex-492705801.htmlIt is going on right now in Dane County and it would not surprise me if some of the members of this board are in law enforcement. I would also not be surprised if some of the skip the games ads are sting operations.
My attorney even told me something last time we talked. They don't want to arrest prostitutes anymore. They are now the victims. They want to arrest the men or women who control them or the men who contribute to this by using their services. Dangerous times. Be careful.
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Howard5354
09-07-18, 23:59
https://www.wbay.com/content/news/19-arrested-in-investigation-targeting-people-who-pay-for-sex-492705801.htmlLots of perp walks.
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HornyGuy Lif
09-09-18, 07:34
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HornyGuy Lif
09-09-18, 20:53
It is going on right now in Dane County and it would not surprise me if some of the members of this board are in law enforcement. I would also not be surprised if some of the skip the games ads are sting operations.
My attorney even told me something last time we talked. They don't want to arrest prostitutes anymore. They are now the victims. They want to arrest the men or women who control them or the men who contribute to this by using their services. Dangerous times. Be careful.I'm sure they still go after the girls to. Don't matter who you are your a target. Depends who wants or needs press attention. Any time prior to election time is high risk.
BooRadley72
09-10-18, 07:55
I'm sure they still go after the girls to. Don't matter who you are your a target. Depends who wants or needs press attention. Any time prior to election time is high risk.Just telling you what my attorney told me and he has spent hours talking to state investigators recently. The tides are turning a bit and there is a lot of sympathy for the girls.
HornyGuy Lif
09-10-18, 15:08
Just telling you what my attorney told me and he has spent hours talking to state investigators recently. The tides are turning a bit and there is a lot of sympathy for the girls.Damn that really sucks maybe a good time to lay low or find a new hobby. Even a trusted go to provider could be corrupted I suppose. Given time hopefully this anti-trafficking bogus national emergency will run it's coarse. People will get tired of reading and hearing about it as well as the pleas and requests for contributions. Ask any of the girls in our area who is forcing them to do this. And who is trafficking them. They should a laugh out of that. Probably are a couple who have a pimp / boyfriend they stupidly support. No doubt some trafficking does exist in big cities like Chicago and others but it's not the nationwide crisis they make it out to be that's in every city in America. The athletic shoe co. That's in the news currently pays women 20 cents an hour to work in their factory. Now that's exploitation!
HornyGuy Lif
09-10-18, 16:25
The head of CBS forced out do to "Sex Allegations" by a dozen women. Don't you just love it when someone from the media does the perp walk. Of coarse he is leaving with 100 million reportedly.
Howard5354
09-12-18, 15:55
The head of CBS forced out do to "Sex Allegations" by a dozen women. Don't you just love it when someone from the media does the perp walk. Of coarse he is leaving with 100 million reportedly.He is already worth over 300 mil.
HappyCamperMan
09-17-18, 23:20
Gazettextra: Janesville prostitution sting leads to cocaine bust.
Crime.
https://www.gazettextra.com/news/crime/janesville-prostitution-sting-leads-to-cocaine-bust/article_ffcb43df-55c3-5798-be1a-347163693832.html
DieselMike
09-18-18, 08:29
Gazettextra: Janesville prostitution sting leads to cocaine bust.
Crime.
https://www.gazettextra.com/news/crime/janesville-prostitution-sting-leads-to-cocaine-bust/article_ffcb43df-55c3-5798-be1a-347163693832.htmlThe girl looks good! Wish I had found her before the cops did.
HornyGuy Lif
09-18-18, 18:15
Gazettextra: Janesville prostitution sting leads to cocaine bust.
Crime.
https://www.gazettextra.com/news/crime/janesville-prostitution-sting-leads-to-cocaine-bust/article_ffcb43df-55c3-5798-be1a-347163693832.htmlAlmost sounds like they were more after a drug bust than prostitution because the LE asked about party favors. Maybe just out to maximize the bust. Janesville is way more dangerous to try and play escort. They (LE) read post and want a squicky clean image. And neighbors are quick to call cops on houses with traffic. "There's a heroin house or meth house on the block!" Help! Explains why things are sparse in Rock county.
Almost sounds like they were more after a drug bust than prostitution because the LE asked about party favors. Maybe just out to maximize the bust. Janesville is way more dangerous to try and play escort. They (LE) read post and want a squicky clean image. And neighbors are quick to call cops on houses with traffic. "There's a heroin house or meth house on the block!" Help! Explains why things are sparse in Rock county.Their image of being poor, classless, white, rednecks would really be in trouble if anyone did drugs or got laid.
HornyGuy Lif
09-18-18, 23:19
Gazettextra: Janesville prostitution sting leads to cocaine bust.
Crime.
https://www.gazettextra.com/news/crime/janesville-prostitution-sting-leads-to-cocaine-bust/article_ffcb43df-55c3-5798-be1a-347163693832.htmlThe girl was not charged with anything prostitution related according to the article just drug related ie party to delivery. Decent looking girl to I might add. Sounds like both were stupid and talked to LE. Probably fell for that old line the cop will put in a good word for you with the and judge. Know I did ONCE lawyer got a copy of police report nothing mentioned at all what a good cooperative little boy I was. Guess those two are about to get a lesson about how the legal system really works.
The girl was not charged with anything prostitution related according to the article just drug related ie party to delivery. Decent looking girl to I might add. Sounds like both were stupid and talked to LE. Probably fell for that old line the cop will put in a good word for you with the and judge. Know I did ONCE lawyer got a copy of police report nothing mentioned at all what a good cooperative little boy I was. Guess those two are about to get a lesson about how the legal system really works.Never, ever talk to police without a lawyer. There is basically no way it can ever help you.
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