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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/seattle-area-bikini-coffee-stand-owner-charged-with-prostitution/
Cuck My Sock
01-12-15, 13:10
Remember, now the not prostitutes, they're victims. Udder bullshit. http://www.kirotv.com/news/ap/washington/seattle-may-change-name-of-patronizing-prostitute-/njmRS/.
Doggy Styl
01-15-15, 01:12
I read an article in the Times that as many as 500 X a night in Seattle underage girls were being? Trafficked. 500! What utter bullshit. The actual stats are probably 500 in a week of Overaged! Hah! That is pure evil propaganda. Once in 30 years of this did I even pick up a girl uner 18 and she was booted to the curb. If you want to risk some hard time, that's the way to do it. I guess the jail lobby wants more money.
I read an article in the Times that as many as 500 X a night in Seattle underage girls were being? Trafficked. 500! What utter bullshit. The actual stats are probably 500 in a week of Overaged! Hah! That is pure evil propaganda. Once in 30 years of this did I even pick up a girl uner 18 and she was booted to the curb. If you want to risk some hard time, that's the way to do it. I guess the jail lobby wants more money.Now that they are not jailing pot smokers they are looking for money. You are right. These are hysterical numbers. Yes, there are victims, but as you said, responsible mongers kick them to the curb.
I read an article in the Times that as many as 500 X a night in Seattle underage girls were being? Trafficked. 500! What utter bullshit. The actual stats are probably 500 in a week of Overaged! Hah! That is pure evil propaganda. Once in 30 years of this did I even pick up a girl uner 18 and she was booted to the curb. If you want to risk some hard time, that's the way to do it. I guess the jail lobby wants more money.I always wondered if girls hit the streets because they wanted to for some reason until they get caught then use the "sex trafficking card" to ease out the trouble they got in. I could be wrong though.
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/man-sentenced-to-33-years-for-raping-three-women-in-seattle/
On Tuesday, January 5, several individuals connected with The Review Board a Seattle discussion forum for clients and adult workers, were arrested by the Bellevue Police department and charged with promoting prostitution. On Wednesday afternoon, the website was seized as part of an investigation by the King County Sheriff's Office, the Bellevue Police Department, the King County Prosecuting Attorney's Office, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Sex worker communities believe that the site may have been specifically targeted in connection with a raid on a massage parlor where non-native Asians worked or because non-Native Asian sex workers advertised through the website.
That's sketchy! All the E. Side micro AMPs have been on the no fly zone for a long time. Don't want to be part of that.
Here's the link to the Sea. Times Article: http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/online-site-where-men-rated-prostitutes-is-shut-down-charges-to-be-filed/.
-LCB.
On Tuesday, January 5, several individuals connected with The Review Board a Seattle discussion forum for clients and adult workers, were arrested by the Bellevue Police department and charged with promoting prostitution. On Wednesday afternoon, the website was seized as part of an investigation by the King County Sheriff's Office, the Bellevue Police Department, the King County Prosecuting Attorney's Office, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Sex worker communities believe that the site may have been specifically targeted in connection with a raid on a massage parlor where non-native Asians worked or because non-Native Asian sex workers advertised through the website.
That's sketchy! All the E. Side micro AMPs have been on the no fly zone for a long time. Don't want to be part of that.
Here's the link to the Sea. Times Article: http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/online-site-where-men-rated-prostitutes-is-shut-down-charges-to-be-filed/.-LCB.THe review board was well respected. Executed 126 search warrants, customer lists to be released $1. 5 m grant to Seattle to go after sexworkers, probably similar in Phoenix.
I have other news reports summarized at http://phxlist.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=18816.
Just curious has there been development of the fall out of this stupidity?
Nw is an Asian dry land / desert.
Did any of you read this article? The guy claims that they just hooked up on Craigslist & she wasn't a prostitute, but I call B. S. This is a hooker who turned cray-cray! Pretty scary stuff. Be careful out there fellas!
Link: http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/police-edmonds-woman-declares-i-am-a-serial-killer-stabs-date-in-the-chest/.
-LCB.
Did any of you read this article? The guy claims that they just hooked up on Craigslist & she wasn't a prostitute, but I call B. S. This is a hooker who turned cray-cray! Pretty scary stuff. Be careful out there fellas!
Link: http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/police-edmonds-woman-declares-i-am-a-serial-killer-stabs-date-in-the-chest/.
-LCB.Did you see what she looks like? This is a clear case of BBW loven on craigslist as that's what 95% of the actual women are that post there looking for sex that are not charging for it. I rarely see women charge for it on craigslist only every now and then its either fake spam bots or lonely women most sane men won't touch and the occasional married men with small cocks wanting to watch their girl / wife banged and or experiment with men themselves. Tons of gay guys to looking to drop loads in other mens assholes as well and turn straight men gay.
Again not saying they don't because they occasionally do but its a rare thing and often the add is taken down in a matter of minutes by all the gay guys hoping straight men will just say "Well I can't find a girl I got to hump something".
Doitunderwater
09-02-17, 12:54
Saw a report on the news last night (9/1/2017) of a sting in Bellevue. Report said LE set up a condo and posted ads on line (quick pics but looked like Back-page and maybe CL). About 110 men arrested for arriving and giving money to the undercover. Be careful out there.
Here is the link to SeattleTimes
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/110-arrested-in-bellevue-sex-sting-set-up-to-fill-void-after-asian-brothels-shut-down/
Saw a report on the news last night (9/1/2017) of a sting in Bellevue. Report said LE set up a condo and posted ads on line (quick pics but looked like Back-page and maybe CL). About 110 men arrested for arriving and giving money to the undercover. Be careful out there.
Here is the link to SeattleTimes
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/110-arrested-in-bellevue-sex-sting-set-up-to-fill-void-after-asian-brothels-shut-down/Yeah, definitely scary stuff! I avoid Bellevue, including the traffic mess on 405!
Better to stick with women who have their own, private Incall.
OneSizeFitsFew
09-02-17, 16:08
Saw a report on the news last night (9/1/2017) of a sting in Bellevue. Report said LE set up a condo and posted ads on line (quick pics but looked like Back-page and maybe CL). About 110 men arrested for arriving and giving money to the undercover. Be careful out there.
Here is the link to SeattleTimes
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/110-arrested-in-bellevue-sex-sting-set-up-to-fill-void-after-asian-brothels-shut-down/Mitch got pinched.
SeattleGonzo
11-09-17, 20:27
http://www.wral.com/youngsville-raid-possibly-linked-to-online-escort-service/17103183/
Fat Richard
11-14-17, 16:40
I'm sure new people have set up shop and taken over the girls. But always keep this in the back of your mind. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/110-arrested-in-bellevue-sex-sting-set-up-to-fill-void-after-asian-brothels-shut-down/.From that article:
"The basic premise is, if there was no demand, we wouldn't have this problem," said Bellevue police detective Tor Kraft.
Yeah.
The cops are going to single-handedly eliminate the desire men have for strange pussy, even though most women know they're sitting on a fortune and ALL men are hard-wired to want sex. Good plan.
From that article:
"The basic premise is, if there was no demand, we wouldn't have this problem," said Bellevue police detective Tor Kraft.
Yeah.
The cops are going to single-handedly eliminate the desire men have for strange pussy, even though most women know they're sitting on a fortune and ALL men are hard-wired to want sex. Good plan.I am frol Hawaii. And weird.
In Hawaii most AMP or such places are located on so called ghetto or shitty town.
No neighbors' complaint. No reports. Cause most neighbors have something to hide and don't want to even be seem by authority.
(Like illegal gambling room or factory filled with illegal immigrations.).
(Honolulu is tiny island and most people are packed in tinier area-20 minutes driving is too far).
Why here AMPs in such rich town? Though you go to AMP you must hate such place in your town?
They could not find enough evidence for.
Trafficking to charge any.
This proofs what we already knew.
1) LE's are perverts, they were watching it for months, enjoying and laughing.
2) They lied to the judge to sign the warrant to take videos. The judge was lied to by LE, there was no human trafficking.
3) LE is unethical, deceitful and bunch of lairs and crooks.
4) Check this tech tutorial, spy cam jammers.
https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-disrupt-a-spy-camera
Hide the spy camera jammer.
These gadgets are small and easy to slip into a pocket or bag inconspicuously.
When you're on the go, these devices will disrupt camera wifi signals to varying ranges.
No one will be the wiser and.
You can go about your business in full privacy.
Protect your 4th Amendment.
Be safe, vigilant and remember.
Never agree to anything upfront.
This is called solicitation, "Just say no".
LE has spent so much time being perverts and.
Video taping months, having someone sit in front that screen for hours, days weeks, and for 6 frigging months.
While LE could done something constructive, and have solved.
Violent crime, stopped drug deals, attempt to catch burgles, stop felonies, solve hundreds / thousands of cold cases.
LE has decided to become video watching perverts.
Sitting in their office, eating donuts.
Drinking coffee and watching like perverts, all on tax payer funds.
Now, there wanting 300 men to pay them $5000 each offense, for a misdemeanor.
Plus their main issue of "Human Trafficking" never happened.
Not a single person got charged with trafficking, because LE in Florida had not case for it.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-ne-kraft-rejecting-plea-deal-reports-20190320-story.html
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/emerald-trash-heap-seattle-is-overwhelmed-by-garbage-and-filth-but-the-citys-leaders-wont-admit-it/
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/emerald-trash-heap-seattle-is-overwhelmed-by-garbage-and-filth-but-the-citys-leaders-wont-admit-it/Honestly, not completely unexpected if you think about it.
www.kiro7.com/amp/news/local/this-is-not-a-setup-bellevue-police-join-prostitution-chat-forum-to-help-sex-workers/1005848591
John Shockley2
11-12-19, 23:54
www.kiro7.com/amp/news/local/this-is-not-a-setup-bellevue-police-join-prostitution-chat-forum-to-help-sex-workers/1005848591That's TNA I'm pretty sure. LEO even being allowed to exist there is a breach of all safety protocols.
That's TNA I'm pretty sure. LEO even being allowed to exist there is a breach of all safety protocols.Yeah there was a post by BPD Vice asking the community what they could do to leave independent sex workers alone and how they can find actual sex traffickers. The account was banned but another one was made and it's been left alone for the most part. There have been busts in Bellevue however with a well known provider (idk, if anyone does please share) working with BPD in stings. Regardless, I will not be seeing any Bellevue provider from here on out, just not worth the risk.
Saw this today.
https://q13fox.com/2019/11/13/bellevue-police-arrest-12-men-in-prostitution-sting/
"The city prosecutor now recommends that those accused attend a ten-week program called "Stopping Sexual Exploitation. " The program is a collaboration among the police department, the city's prosecutor's office and an organization called 'Seattle Against Slavery. ' ".
Saw this today.
https://q13fox.com/2019/11/13/bellevue-police-arrest-12-men-in-prostitution-sting/
"The city prosecutor now recommends that those accused attend a ten-week program called "Stopping Sexual Exploitation. " The program is a collaboration among the police department, the city's prosecutor's office and an organization called 'Seattle Against Slavery. ' ".https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?1885530-Bellevue-Sting
They just don't get it. It is clear that a tna girl os working with them.
WhiteJohnson
11-14-19, 18:32
https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?1885530-Bellevue-Sting
They just don't get it. It is clear that a tna girl os working with them.This escort.
https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?398014-Emmy123
Vouched for this handle.
https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?398399-grizzle768
That was pointed out to be LE by Gaia.
https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?1864690-Providers-amp-Law-Enforcement/page5
Two other escorts on that thread confirmed it was LE.
No where on that website was there any warning that Bellevue was unsafe.
Only here were members warned.
Those people are clueless to the risks they run.
Millerlite1
11-14-19, 19:30
This escort.
https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?398014-Emmy123
Vouched for this handle.
https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?398399-grizzle768
That was pointed out to be LE by Gaia.
https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?1864690-Providers-amp-Law-Enforcement/page5
Two other escorts on that thread confirmed it was LE.
No where on that website was there any warning that Bellevue was unsafe.
Only here were members warned.
Those people are clueless to the risks they run.Don't ever trust a hoe that has called the police.
When she feels wronged she will just call the cops and claim rape or abuse and you are fucked.
Once they go down that path, they can't be trusted.
Millerlite1
11-14-19, 20:22
Saw this today.
https://q13fox.com/2019/11/13/bellevue-police-arrest-12-men-in-prostitution-sting/
"The city prosecutor now recommends that those accused attend a ten-week program called "Stopping Sexual Exploitation. " The program is a collaboration among the police department, the city's prosecutor's office and an organization called 'Seattle Against Slavery. ' ".SPD busted a few johns last night.
Millerlite1
11-14-19, 20:27
SPD busted a few johns last night.https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/seattle-police-captain-arrested-on-suspicion-of-sexual-exploitation/
Don't ever trust a hoe that has called the police.
When she feels wronged she will just call the cops and claim rape or abuse and you are fucked.
Once they go down that path, they can't be trusted.This!
Never Trust an escort. Ever.
Never see one that is friendly with the police.
She will use that to extort money from you.
ExtraFun2006
11-22-19, 01:35
https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-police-captain-busted-prostitution-sting
Careful out there saw 6 police out tonight believe the sting still on.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-police-captain-busted-prostitution-sting
Careful out there saw 6 police out tonight believe the sting still on.This is a great example of why this behaviour will never be eradicated. It is not a crime and I really am not sure why the hobby has not been de-criminialized in this country as yet. Every other first world country understands the need to regulate rather than make criminals of people who just have needs.
For those that know, TER is finally back online.That site was my go-to. As a VIP member you could search by city, cost, particular service type and body type.Glad it is back.Well let's see hopefully I will spring for the VIP membership (not sure yet) they have been gone in the US for a while.
MassageMeow
01-17-20, 18:40
For those that know, TER is finally back online.That site was my go-to. As a VIP member you could search by city, cost, particular service type and body type.Glad it is back.Well let's see hopefully I will spring for the VIP membership (not sure yet) they have been gone in the US for a whileNot sure if I am familiar with TER.
BirdWatching
01-18-20, 14:28
Not sure if I am familiar with TER.Great News. I'll see if my old handle still works.
Twister100
01-18-20, 17:57
Great News. I'll see if my old handle still works.My old handle still works. Not very much there as expected. Reminds me of a house that has been abandoned for two years and when you go back everything is just like it was two years ago.
Yeah there was a post by BPD Vice asking the community what they could do to leave independent sex workers alone and how they can find actual sex traffickers. The account was banned but another one was made and it's been left alone for the most part. There have been busts in Bellevue however with a well known provider (idk, if anyone does please share) working with BPD in stings. Regardless, I will not be seeing any Bellevue provider from here on out, just not worth the risk.BPD can operate busts in any city. So the location doesn't matter. They are getting funding from federal and private groups to do busts.
Beware of any escort that has a history of cooperation with LE. Even if it sounds legit, it isn't.
Rockets1234
01-19-20, 02:14
BPD can operate busts in any city. So the location doesn't matter. They are getting funding from federal and private groups to do busts.
Beware of any escort that has a history of cooperation with LE. Even if it sounds legit, it isn't.How do we find out which ones have a history of cooperation with LE?
How do we find out which ones have a history of cooperation with LE?Read the thread.
BPD can operate busts in any city. So the location doesn't matter. They are getting funding from federal and private groups to do busts.
Beware of any escort that has a history of cooperation with LE. Even if it sounds legit, it isn't.Getting funding from which private groups?
BPD can operate busts in any city. So the location doesn't matter. They are getting funding from federal and private groups to do busts.
Beware of any escort that has a history of cooperation with LE. Even if it sounds legit, it isn't.Be very careful of certain kind of escorts groups In Seattle, Tacoma, SeaTac, Queen Anne, North Gate area These thots are hook on some kinda substance and 99% of them have pimps so the branded tattoos is a tell tell sign with that said the pimps have them transporting drugs guns, under age kids on all kind of drugs, stealing clients CC or Cash and Carry. That what bring out the FBI. So they tracking these group of low life hoes and pimps but if client being involved with these escort s that you don't know fuck about but they suck a good dick and got good pussy then guess what the Feds watching you now too and your ass will be on a federal witness stand testifying about escorts and then your whole family looking at you sideways. There's a group of escorts that is badnews it's all over other review sites. Here are some you may want to avoid it's up too you. LE is on them like flies on shit!
TexasMonger
02-06-20, 10:47
Be very careful of certain kind of escorts groups In Seattle, Tacoma, SeaTac, Queen Anne, North Gate area These thots are hook on some kinda substance and 99% of them have pimps so the branded tattoos is a tell tell sign with that said the pimps have them transporting drugs guns, under age kids on all kind of drugs, stealing clients CC or Cash and Carry. That what bring out the FBI. So they tracking these group of low life hoes and pimps but if client being involved with these escort s that you don't know fuck about but they suck a good dick and got good pussy then guess what the Feds watching you now too and your ass will be on a federal witness stand testifying about escorts and then your whole family looking at you sideways. There's a group of escorts that is badnews it's all over other review sites. Here are some you may want to avoid it's up too you. LE is on them like flies on shit!I'm sorry to but in on your board. But I noticed someone on your list that was here in NNJ and has been reviewed by myself and another trusted member on the NNJ board. Amber (picture below), at least that is the name we know her by was an amazing provider. Not one second I felt uncomfortable with her or threatened by her surroundings. She was alone, no visible pimp, and for sure no LE or FBI lurking.
I'm not her pimp. You can find me here and I have been here for many years. I just want to bring a comment about someone who may have been lumped with a bunch of bad apples.
Cheers.
TM.
This is an excellent article that lays out the facts.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/seattle-sex-workers-covid19-coronavirus_n_5e69233ac5b60557280fbfce
TroyMClure
03-20-20, 05:11
Please stay home and read this:
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56
Elmer Fuddness
03-25-20, 14:53
Just the facts.
1. Almost all of these women are going to get it. It's highly communicable.
2. The mortality rate for men under 50 is extremely low. It's of little risk to younger men. Unless immunocompromised\heart condition. The rates for 50-60 ish are marginal, 60+ are high and 70+ are VERY high (you should not be pooning).
3. It will likely be VERY expensive if you're hospitalized and not insured sufficiently.
4. Average hospital stay is something like 3 weeks.
5. There is strong empirical evidence that people who are exposed "frequently" get it worse. (e. G. Doctors and nurses and it should follow pooners and providers).
So. All and all, this just seems like a stupid amount of risk right now. And that's as someone who posts in the bareback forums and tries to leave a deposit as often as possible.
Besides, let the market crash. When everything is back to normal in a while, after the 2nd wave it'll take a while for prices to trend back up. For as much as these guys at TNA orbit these providers like obedient little knobs, they're too risk averse to actually see them during this. It's a healthy part of the business cycle to let demand dry up so that supply prices adjust and some of them go out of business. Out with GPS girls.
I'm sure this is borderline with the rules, but I've made this as level headed as possible of a post. It's one thing to go on antibiotics, or even risk something really really serious in the game (but still have a very low transmission rate). This is one of those things that is low reward, high risk, high chance.
These girls who are "taking temperatures" making sure "guys aren't coughing. " This is laughable with the delay to onset of symptoms.
Just the facts.
1. Almost all of these women are going to get it. It's highly communicable.
2. The mortality rate for men under 50 is extremely low. It's of little risk to younger men. Unless immunocompromised\heart condition. The rates for 50-60 ish are marginal, 60+ are high and 70+ are VERY high (you should not be pooning).
3. It will likely be VERY expensive if you're hospitalized and not insured sufficiently.
4. Average hospital stay is something like 3 weeks.
5. There is strong empirical evidence that people who are exposed "frequently" get it worse. (e. G. Doctors and nurses and it should follow pooners and providers).
So. All and all, this just seems like a stupid amount of risk right now. And that's as someone who posts in the bareback forums and tries to leave a deposit as often as possible.
Besides, let the market crash. When everything is back to normal in a while, after the 2nd wave it'll take a while for prices to trend back up. For as much as these guys at TNA orbit these providers like obedient little knobs, they're too risk averse to actually see them during this. It's a healthy part of the business cycle to let demand dry up so that supply prices adjust and some of them go out of business. Out with GPS girls.
I'm sure this is borderline with the rules, but I've made this as level headed as possible of a post. It's one thing to go on antibiotics, or even risk something really really serious in the game (but still have a very low transmission rate). This is one of those things that is low reward, high risk, high chance.
These girls who are "taking temperatures" making sure "guys aren't coughing. " This is laughable with the delay to onset of symptoms.A lot of people are still going around knocking on AMPs doors even if they have closed signs. This virus is going to stay around even longer because of people like these. Stay home people!
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/04/tigard-police-arrest-woman-in-murder-of-man-found-dead-at-embassy-suites.html
Does anyone know who the escort is?
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/04/tigard-police-arrest-woman-in-murder-of-man-found-dead-at-embassy-suites.html
Does anyone know who the escort is?It's pretty common knowlege. She was never mentioned. Used to be the gold standard, priced to match. Check TNA, somebody linked her, but everyone already knew.
BuckNaked123
04-22-20, 19:41
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/04/tigard-police-arrest-woman-in-murder-of-man-found-dead-at-embassy-suites.html
Does anyone know who the escort is?Victoria Von Helkine was the one arrested. I have seen her several times over the years. Very popular in Seattle about 15 years ago and also did main stream porn.
Please stay home and read this:
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56Here is his do nothing projection.
If we do nothing: Everybody gets infected, the healthcare system gets overwhelmed, the mortality explodes, and ~10 million people die (blue bars). For the back-of-the-envelope numbers: if ~75% of Americans get infected and 4% die, that’s 10 million deaths, or around 25 times the number of US deaths in World War II.Ten million fucking people. That was taking the 4% death rate from Italy and Spain (because nobody was getting tested unless you were about to friggen die) and extrapolating that across the entire population. Now were are expected to believe that because about half the people stayed home that number is dropping from 10,000,000 to 60,000? Sorry, I remain sceptical.
Why isn't everybody on the Theodore Roosevelt dead? 4800 people, time from first exposure to now has been 7 weeks. As of 16 April 95% of the ship has been tested, 600 confirmed cases of which 400 were so mild they were asymptomatic, 6 in hospital, 2 in intensive care, 1 of those in intensive care died. Not a typo, 1 dead. 1, 41 year old Chief. No social distancing possible because it was a boat.
If every week is shark week and it's playing 24/7 on all channels then people in Kansas are going to be afraid to take showers.
Not saying it's nothing, but the antibody studies released in Santa Clara and LA county show it to be everywhere and the death rate (number of dead as a percentage of number infected) is showing it to be about 1. 5 to twice as lethal as seasonal flu. The number of dead will probably be 2-3 X seasonal flu but it's not going to get anywhere near the projections that justified the lockdowns. It's not even going to touch heart disease as a killer. It's a thing but Sweden got it right even though the press keep trying to say they didn't.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-swedish-experiment-looks-like-it-s-paying-off/amp
The 2nd and 3rd order effects from the mitigation however will kill way more people than corona. That's going to kill millions of people in the third world.
For all of you guys about to accuse me of being a Trumpeter, I'm a life long lefty.
A2.
Here is his do nothing projection.
Ten million fucking people. That was taking the 4% death rate from Italy and Spain (because nobody was getting tested unless you were about to friggen die) and extrapolating that across the entire population. Now were are expected to believe that because about half the people stayed home that number is dropping from 10,000,000 to 60,000? Sorry, I remain sceptical.
Why isn't everybody on the Theodore Roosevelt dead? 4800 people, time from first exposure to now has been 7 weeks. As of 16 April 95% of the ship has been tested, 600 confirmed cases of which 400 were so mild they were asymptomatic, 6 in hospital, 2 in intensive care, 1 of those in intensive care died. Not a typo, 1 dead. 1, 41 year old Chief. No social distancing possible because it was a boat.
If every week is shark week and it's playing 24/7 on all channels then people in Kansas are going to be afraid to take showers.
Not saying it's nothing, but the antibody studies released in Santa Clara and LA county show it to be everywhere and the death rate (number of dead as a percentage of number infected) is showing it to be about 1. 5 to twice as lethal as seasonal flu. The number of dead will probably be 2-3 X seasonal flu but it's not going to get anywhere near the projections that justified the lockdowns. It's not even going to touch heart disease as a killer. It's a thing but Sweden got it right even though the press keep trying to say they didn't.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-swedish-experiment-looks-like-it-s-paying-off/amp
The 2nd and 3rd order effects from the mitigation however will kill way more people than corona. That's going to kill millions of people in the third world.
For all of you guys about to accuse me of being a Trumpeter, I'm a life long lefty.
A2.Why isn't everybody on the Theodore Roosevelt dead? Everyone on that boat is a healthy person between 18-50, not very likely those people die. It mostly effects people 60 and over. Have those infection rates in a nursing home and you'll have a much higher death rate.
This situation is very real. I know a nurse who has passed away who was 60 yrs old. Hospitals in some states don't have enough ventilators or even proper medical supplies to deal with this. That's why it's a big deal.
Twister100
05-05-20, 12:56
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/drive-thru-strip-club-coronavirus_n_5eac4c0ec5b624b39692963d?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIg-geTOzDce1hzMqcWfPX2YIzCkuk_A1gGej-dqcL_O4T0qryn1zzfw4WgLvokEr9oCx1EE7Q0mh1AJ5gCZ3QxoXQERvkVqt4vffZs6D8XafsYMPXk-czOvQd2MP6GcbfzcSnHfTMx-YMm8J3z2lrXKYc3AriOQ3Qmf44nxA9Wz
TakingABreak
09-23-20, 11:50
https://www.foxnews.com/us/andre-taylor-seattle-pimp-not-this-time
MartyByrde
09-23-20, 17:05
https://www.foxnews.com/us/andre-taylor-seattle-pimp-not-this-timeLOL! Never knew that. Thanks for the informative link.
SamSmith24
11-03-20, 03:51
Sitting over on 127th as I watched the BSW pass by I noticed more police out tonight then usual. They pulled over quite a few girls and talk them. Even saw them flashing the lights on a few. I watched a black BSW get into a car and the police follow them out the parking lot and turn on the lights. Guess I should just retire tonight.
Anyone know what happened up near 127th Wednesday night? Pic is around 7 PM.
PeterHouston
11-05-20, 00:27
Apparently a 50 YO woman pedestrian was killed by a car at 137th and AA.
If one can believe what the internet says.
Anyone know what happened up near 127th Wednesday night? Pic is around 7 PM.
CocoLocoMango
11-13-20, 00:19
Sitting over on 127th as I watched the BSW pass by I noticed more police out tonight then usual. They pulled over quite a few girls and talk them. Even saw them flashing the lights on a few. I watched a black BSW get into a car and the police follow them out the parking lot and turn on the lights. Guess I should just retire tonight.They are doing stings when they caught one of their own high ranking officer, and let him off without even pressing charges? They felt bad for the LEO official.
How about your average blue collar joe who is just trying to have a good time after a hard day of work at the coal factory and just needs to bust a good nut to blow off some steam.
So these hardworking tax paying Mericans are criminals, and deserve to be prosecuted for "seeking a good time". LMAO total hypocrites.
They are doing stings when they caught one of their own high ranking officer, and let him off without even pressing charges? They felt bad for the LEO official.
How about your average blue collar joe who is just trying to have a good time after a hard day of work at the coal factory and just needs to bust a good nut to blow off some steam.
So these hardworking tax paying Mericans are criminals, and deserve to be prosecuted for "seeking a good time". LMAO total hypocrites.Amazes me yet I'm not surprised. I bet you the cap isn't the only one who wonders in the side of the spectrum.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9001471/Ex-girlfriend-sugar-daddy-lawyer-reveals-lusted-Claudia-Conway.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9001471/Ex-girlfriend-sugar-daddy-lawyer-reveals-lusted-Claudia-Conway.htmlI get nervous when the SB lists herself as 18. Too close to the cliff's edge.
CoffeeTurd
12-03-20, 21:31
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9001471/Ex-girlfriend-sugar-daddy-lawyer-reveals-lusted-Claudia-Conway.htmlThey went in on him. Called him creepy and everything. Just goes to show that if you are going to be in this game, you have to have at least a little modesty and discretion. And (not to be gross) make sure to understand the legal age of consent in your area.
Also, $900 for a 3 way? Mine was only 300. Always knew DC was expensive.
I get nervous when the SB lists herself as 18. Too close to the cliff's edgeI have not seen any but chatted with a few. I ask them to send me a pic with I'd (covering PII information, but leaving pic and DOB visibile). The legit ones have done that no problem. I do not start any convo with them that is remotely sexual until I get that out of the way.
Another reason I will never see anyone in Bellevue: https://komonews.com/news/local/3-juvenile-sex-trafficking-victims-rescued-in-bellevue-vice-operation.
Also, who the fuck is seeing UA girls?
Another reason I will never see anyone in Bellevue: https://komonews.com/news/local/3-juvenile-sex-trafficking-victims-rescued-in-bellevue-vice-operation.
Also, who the fuck is seeing UA girls?Wow. Thanks for sharing. UA girls? Based on the way the article is written. It looks like the people arrested were not even aware they were UA. See last paragraph. Where it says if they are convicted. They will spent a 10 week course on the exploitation of women etc etc. If they were aware these were UA. There is NO way that would be a possible outcome. For one it would be a felony not a misdemeanour and no 10 week course bud. You are going in for a long time. But who really knows. I am speculating.
Another reason I will never see anyone in Bellevue: https://komonews.com/news/local/3-juvenile-sex-trafficking-victims-rescued-in-bellevue-vice-operation.
Also, who the fuck is seeing UA girls?Probably they did not know. The PD blog post has a little more detail and commentary.
bellevuebeatblog.com/2020/12/22/ vice-operation-recovers-three-juvenile-sex-trafficking-victims.
Probably they did not know. The PD blog post has a little more detail and commentary.
bellevuebeatblog.com/2020/12/22/ vice-operation-recovers-three-juvenile-sex-trafficking-victims.It looks to me there are two things going on. The first is that they made appointments with working girls and either busted them or saved them from their pimps and some of these were underage.
The other is that they set up a sting for mongers and busted 14 guys with undercover cops posing as working girls. They were not busting guys for being with underage girls which is why they got misdemeanors. If they were going after guys after under age girls it would be more of a to catch a predator kind of situation.
PapaForMamma
03-16-21, 21:32
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/3-dead-shooting-georgia-massage-parlor-suspect-loose-n1261262
The hobby could really kill a guy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/3-dead-shooting-georgia-massage-parlor-suspect-loose-n1261262
The hobby could really kill a guy.Reading early profiles on the guy and seeing that patrons were also victims along with the masseuses, it's likely a religious radical attack. Too early to presume, but it'll likely be what's uncovered. Stay safe all.
Another reason I will never see anyone in Bellevue: https://komonews.com/news/local/3-juvenile-sex-trafficking-victims-rescued-in-bellevue-vice-operation.
Also, who the fuck is seeing UA girls?Girls who are advertising that they are 18 or 19, or even early 20's, are just too scary for me. That is way too close to the edge of the cliff, and they are likely lying. Yeah, we all like looking at young hot things. Spending time in jail for sticking your dick in one, because she lied about her age, no thanks. I am happy with an older woman, who knows what she likes and how to please her partner.
Reading early profiles on the guy and seeing that patrons were also victims along with the masseuses, it's likely a religious radical attack. Too early to presume, but it'll likely be what's uncovered. Stay safe all.+1 on both your points. It is too early to tell. But also does seem like it is linked to the hate crimes that some Asians are feeling (us and other countries) after the pandemic started. Sad.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/3-dead-shooting-georgia-massage-parlor-suspect-loose-n1261262
The hobby could really kill a guy.What a nutso.
Some people. Are just crazy.
CoronaLime
03-17-21, 16:46
Girls who are advertising that they are 18 or 19, or even early 20's, are just too scary for me. That is way too close to the edge of the cliff, and they are likely lying. Yeah, we all like looking at young hot things. Spending time in jail for sticking your dick in one, because she lied about her age, no thanks. I am happy with an older woman, who knows what she likes and how to please her partner.That is scary that people get set up like that.
I won't be going to Bellevue.
JayHawkFan
03-17-21, 17:06
Girls who are advertising that they are 18 or 19, or even early 20's, are just too scary for me. That is way too close to the edge of the cliff, and they are likely lying. Yeah, we all like looking at young hot things. Spending time in jail for sticking your dick in one, because she lied about her age, no thanks. I am happy with an older woman, who knows what she likes and how to please her partner.So just ask them to prove their age by showing their driver's license (or national I'd if foreign).
Member #6048
03-17-21, 17:15
Girls who are advertising that they are 18 or 19, or even early 20's, are just too scary for me. That is way too close to the edge of the cliff, and they are likely lying. Yeah, we all like looking at young hot things. Spending time in jail for sticking your dick in one, because she lied about her age, no thanks. I am happy with an older woman, who knows what she likes and how to please her partner.I'm pretty sure the girls on TNA are vetted and have to provide their I'd before being allowed to join.
But yeah, in general I would stay away from young girls advertising on other sites.
I'm pretty sure the girls on TNA are vetted and have to provide their I'd before being allowed to join.
But yeah, in general I would stay away from young girls advertising on other sites.I'm not. There are so many trafficked women, tna wouldn't know.
I'm not. There are so many trafficked women, tna wouldn't know.I stick to older women. Never tried for 18 19 20. Seems risky.
I stick to older women. Never tried for 18 19 20. Seems risky.Amen to that! And besides, they're much less afraid and vastly better performers almost always.
So just ask them to prove their age by showing their driver's license (or national I'd if foreign).Did you never have a fake I'd? I had at least half a dozen before I turned 21.
On that subject, on SA, there are SB's who advertise that they are 18 or 19, yet list their drinking habits as social or more. Yeah, tell me she doesn't have a fake I'd. So now you may be boning a potential minor, and providing alcohol to her. No thanks.
Marko Ramius
03-18-21, 12:28
Interesting how quite a few PLs on that other board are retiring their accounts.
MartyByrde
03-18-21, 13:24
I stick to older women. Never tried for 18 19 20. Seems risky.Agree 100%. Also, older women are more experienced, and know their way around the "arousal" table.
Interesting how quite a few PLs on that other board are retiring their accounts.They may have gotten busted.
Jimmysixxx7
03-18-21, 17:54
Interesting how quite a few PLs on that other board are retiring their accounts.What are PLs?
What are PLs?You are one.
Some more people are getting popped. I noticed that no one is monitoring that other site as well.
Member #6240
03-18-21, 18:47
Some more people are getting popped. I noticed that no one is monitoring that other site as well.Is the thinking here that the community is compromised?
I've been back and forth over there, but retired my account for good a month or so ago.
I wonder where they'll all go. ?
Marko Ramius
03-18-21, 21:00
Is the thinking here that the community is compromised?
...That's a nice way of putting it, but I think that ellie has been in pretty deep with that community for some years.
Interesting how quite a few PLs on that other board are retiring their accounts.I think a number of things are happening in the background over there. Some are alt accounts being found out about, might have been caught, overall the increase in costs as well as a number of other things. The one discussion over there that a newbie posted that should of raised some eyebrows but didn't was that he mentioned that he posted a review because he paid a deposit but was given the "wrong address" and then got ghosted. He mentioned that for the next 48 hours he had to work with that site to get the review removed because of the threats he was both texted and PM'd saying he was a liar. Didn't sound like he would be allowed to post an alert. The culture over there is so much towards the provider being always right. Even if the girl messes up, the guy needs to pay for the mistake with either $ or their reputation. I think some are just fed up with the prices and toxic culture over there.
This is a link to that discussion.
https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?2147541-Help-Am-I-doing-something-wrong
Bellevue did a good job for me not seeing anyone that hosts there. Too big of a risk and seems most providers have moved that way.
Bellevue did a good job for me not seeing anyone that hosts there. Too big of a risk and seems most providers have moved that way.Most if not all of the women in Bellevue are pimped / trafficked.
I don't get how they are doing a good job. They need to not worry about the John's and go after the pimps.
Most if not all of the women in Bellevue are pimped / trafficked.
I don't get how they are doing a good job. They need to not worry about the John's and go after the pimps.I would love to see a thread for providers who are pimped vs. Indy. I've had more than one experience where the information I got from the person I was text was aligned with the provider's expectations on allowable services. I imagine there are others like me who'd rather not waste time with the pimped.
I would love to see a thread for providers who are pimped vs. Indy. I've had more than one experience where the information I got from the person I was text was aligned with the provider's expectations on allowable services. I imagine there are others like me who'd rather not waste time with the pimped.When I saw Misty, she willingly did the job and when it came time, she went back home. Speaking with her (at least with her) she was using the agency as a way to get more business. But I guess she could have just been saying that as well.
I would love to see a thread for providers who are pimped vs. Indy. I've had more than one experience where the information I got from the person I was text was aligned with the provider's expectations on allowable services. I imagine there are others like me who'd rather not waste time with the pimped.Most are pimped.
Marko Ramius
03-31-21, 11:02
Anyone want to be that the good congressman was on one or more arrangement site? Rumors are his girl was on SA.
MartyByrde
04-13-21, 13:04
Saw this morning where the FDA is pausing the use of the J & J vaccine, due to reported blood clots in the brain for some women. I've already received both doses of the Moderna vaccine, but this is disappointing, to say the least. Getting only one dose sure is an attractive method. Hopefully these are very isolated incidents.
Jimmysixxx7
04-13-21, 23:41
Will someone quote Marty's post. I'm pretty sure he blocked me and I can't see them. They are always entertaining to read.
This is interesting and I wonder if this will ever happen here in Seattle.
https://news.yahoo.com/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-155038135.html
This is interesting and I wonder if this will ever happen here in Seattle.
https://news.yahoo.com/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-155038135.htmlA quote from that article: "The office will continue to prosecute other crimes related to prostitution, including patronizing sex workers. . . ".
Unless there's some fancy legal definition of 'patronizing' I don't know about, it sounds like they'll still prosecute johns. While I'm all for the decriminalization of sex work, it probably won't do much if their customers are still criminalized. I can't think of any other market where it's legal to sell something but illegal to buy it. It sounds very progressive but doesn't seem to actually change anything. So, yeah, it sounds very much like something that we might do here in Seattle.
BBPornoGeek
04-22-21, 12:24
A quote from that article: "The office will continue to prosecute other crimes related to prostitution, including patronizing sex workers. . . ".
Unless there's some fancy legal definition of 'patronizing' I don't know about, it sounds like they'll still prosecute johns. While I'm all for the decriminalization of sex work, it probably won't do much if their customers are still criminalized. I can't think of any other market where it's legal to sell something but illegal to buy it. It sounds very progressive but doesn't seem to actually change anything. So, yeah, it sounds very much like something that we might do here in Seattle.Canada is mostly like that.
PriceIsRight39
04-22-21, 14:37
A quote from that article: "The office will continue to prosecute other crimes related to prostitution, including patronizing sex workers. . . ".
Unless there's some fancy legal definition of 'patronizing' I don't know about, it sounds like they'll still prosecute johns. While I'm all for the decriminalization of sex work, it probably won't do much if their customers are still criminalized. I can't think of any other market where it's legal to sell something but illegal to buy it. It sounds very progressive but doesn't seem to actually change anything. So, yeah, it sounds very much like something that we might do here in Seattle.Key word " progressive".
This is interesting and I wonder if this will ever happen here in Seattle.
https://news.yahoo.com/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-155038135.htmlThe Seattle Clowncile has been talking about it for a while. Hopefully if they do something like this, they make the entire process legal to include the "Johns" unlike NY proposal.
The Seattle Clowncile has been talking about it for a while. Hopefully if they do something like this, they make the entire process legal to include the "Johns" unlike NY proposal.The woke people of Seattle or NY will never allow it. Johns are seen as victimizers of the poor sex worker. So the woman chooses to do what she likes with her body, that's empowerment. But if you, you misogynistic pig, take her up on it, then you are abusing your maleness. And if you are white, well, then double whammy! In their world, they will position a social worker (because cops are bad) in the doorway of said sex worker, and as soon as you, the client pays her, they will take you to jail.
The woke people of Seattle or NY will never allow it. Johns are seen as victimizers of the poor sex worker. So the woman chooses to do what she likes with her body, that's empowerment. But if you, you misogynistic pig, take her up on it, then you are abusing your maleness. And if you are white, well, then double whammy! In their world, they will position a social worker (because cops are bad) in the doorway of said sex worker, and as soon as you, the client pays her, they will take you to jail.Just remember, never talk money in person. When you meet up, don't hand them any $$, just set it down somewhere on the floor or table. No verbal acknowledgement. If you don't physically hand them $$ you can pull the defense "I didn't pay for anything". May or may not work but it is about the only work around.
Marko Ramius
04-22-21, 20:26
Just remember, never talk money in person. When you meet up, don't hand them any $$, just set it down somewhere on the floor or table. No verbal acknowledgement. If you don't physically hand them $$ you can pull the defense "I didn't pay for anything". May or may not work but it is about the only work around.If you get caught at an incall or an MP with a bunch of cash on you or even near you you are pretty much fucked.
This is, for a great many reasons, an inherently risky activity. You can get busted, you can get robbed and beaten half to death, your employer can find out and fire you, your wife can find out and divorce you. The important thing is to never assume you are invincible and to realize that you are always one misstep from disaster. The moral of the story is that men do crazy shit for pussy.
SeattleMassage
04-23-21, 15:57
If you get caught at an incall or an MP with a bunch of cash on you or even near you you are pretty much fucked.
Okay I would like to talk about this. So, ummm, why exactly? You obviously need cash at a massage parlor, the door itself might say "cash only" and just because you are or were there doesn't at all mean that you were doing anything illegal. Maybe things are happening in some other rooms, but that does not mean at all you either were doing something illegal or that you knew what was happening in a different room. Can't you just tell them you were here to get a massage? As far as being (possibly) naked well, yeah, it was a massage obviously.
Marko Ramius
04-23-21, 17:32
Okay I would like to talk about this. So, ummm, why exactly? You obviously need cash at a massage parlor, the door itself might say "cash only" and just because you are or were there doesn't at all mean that you were doing anything illegal. Maybe things are happening in some other rooms, but that does not mean at all you either were doing something illegal or that you knew what was happening in a different room. Can't you just tell them you were here to get a massage? As far as being (possibly) naked well, yeah, it was a massage obviously.Think it through, and remember that the police and prosecutors are at least as well-informed about the hobby, practices, and going rates as all of us are. How many of us know exactly what the price is for FS &c and also know, through experience, to bring only the exact amount of money you are willing to spend? So if you are bare-ass-naked on the massage table at CeCe's Spa and you just have your ID and $160 in cash on you, the cops are going to reasonably infer that you were there to fuck. Is that enough for a conviction? I don't know. But certainly they can use that information to arrest you. And while you might well win in court, you'll probably pay a lot of money for the privilege that you'd probably rather spend elsewhere. A successful criminal defense that goes to trial will probably set you back $20 grand or more. And if you lose they are going to come down on you very hard.
On a similar note, some escorts have been busted because they had a big box of condoms in their purse.
In general it is a stupid idea to lie to or even bullshit the cops. While they may not be able to prove that you were lying to them, they will still know it and that will give them license to fuck with you. And you certainly won't enjoy it.
Obligatory funny story: I had a regular some years ago, and made it a practice to give her both the house fee and the tip when I first got to the room so she could just come back and get busy. Well, as luck would have it after she took my money and left the room the cops came in. So there I was, bare-ass naked in the room with my ID and fifteen bucks. The following conversation ensued:
Officer: what were you thinking coming here with only fifteen dollars?
Me: well, if the lady gives me a good massage I like to leave a nice tip.
Officer: you are the biggest motherfucking idiot in the world. And you are free to go.
Me:
CrashBandi
06-08-21, 03:03
Okay I would like to talk about this. So, ummm, why exactly? You obviously need cash at a massage parlor, the door itself might say "cash only" and just because you are or were there doesn't at all mean that you were doing anything illegal. Maybe things are happening in some other rooms, but that does not mean at all you either were doing something illegal or that you knew what was happening in a different room. Can't you just tell them you were here to get a massage? As far as being (possibly) naked well, yeah, it was a massage obviously.There's a law professor who has a 46 minutes discussion based on the reason why you don't say one word to LE, not even pledging the 5th.
He basically says that you are legally obligated to tell the cop your name and what you're doing at that very moment. Outside of that, you just say "I want a lawyer".
SeattleMassage
08-12-21, 15:47
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-first-state-make-buying-sex-felony-will-help-trafficking-n1276617
Anonymous420
08-13-21, 01:09
With the words used by the people mentioned in the article, I wonder if the unnamed website Greenberg and Gaetz used was SA.
https://www.businessinsider.com/greenberg-set-up-meeting-for-him-gaetz-with-woman-charging-400-report-2021-8
There's a law professor who has a 46 minutes discussion based on the reason why you don't say one word to LE, not even pledging the 5th.
He basically says that you are legally obligated to tell the cop your name and what you're doing at that very moment. Outside of that, you just say "I want a lawyer"."I want a lawyer" is pleading the Fifth.
With the words used by the people mentioned in the article, I wonder if the unnamed website Greenberg and Gaetz used was SA.
https://www.businessinsider.com/greenberg-set-up-meeting-for-him-gaetz-with-woman-charging-400-report-2021-8They are really stretching this to gey Gaetz!
Its kind of scary.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-first-state-make-buying-sex-felony-will-help-trafficking-n1276617Same logic as the war on drugs, which has proved to be so successful. Lets hope this idea doesn't spread.
Marko Ramius
08-13-21, 12:03
That's been out there and confirmed for several months. Word is that the prosecutors have screen shots of Greenberg's SA profile in their evidence.
With the words used by the people mentioned in the article, I wonder if the unnamed website Greenberg and Gaetz used was SA.
https://www.businessinsider.com/greenberg-set-up-meeting-for-him-gaetz-with-woman-charging-400-report-2021-8
Anonymous420
08-13-21, 12:44
That's been out there and confirmed for several months. Word is that the prosecutors have screen shots of Greenberg's SA profile in their evidence.Wonder if this will bring the heat on SA. Like get shut down like Backpage sort of heat.
AussieFury
08-13-21, 13:28
"I want a lawyer" is pleading the Fifth.Right to have an attorney present during questioning is guaranteed by the Sixth Amendment.
Marko Ramius
08-13-21, 14:44
Wonder if this will bring the heat on SA. Like get shut down like Backpage sort of heat.I doubt it.
A lot of the heat on SA and Craigslist before it was about human trafficking and girls being forced to work. It is hard to make that kind of argument against SA. SA's aggressive official stance against prostitution also helps them, as does the fact that the swing the ban stick at the slightest provocation.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-first-state-make-buying-sex-felony-will-help-trafficking-n1276617No worries, Texas is controlled by the same party that brought fester / siesta in 2018. Maybe they can take it on the road in 2024.
No worries, Texas is controlled by the same party that brought fester / siesta in 2018. Maybe they can take it on the road in 2024.FFS, this will not make a dent in human trafficking.
Legalize, regulate, and tax it like any other business. *THAT* will take a bite out of traffickers who will no longer have the market demand from Johns who want a back alley bang.
VinceHeartSk
08-19-21, 19:55
Dunno Only Fans why they would kill this cash cow, but it might mean a return to better service and reasonable prices.
Dunno Only Fans why they would kill this cash cow, but it might mean a return to better service and reasonable prices.This is good news but I think things are going to stay as it is or there would another service replacing only fans. But for a short time the girls are going to lose their income and get desperate, that's bound to happen.
TheNovelist
08-19-21, 20:19
Dunno Only Fans why they would kill this cash cow, but it might mean a return to better service and reasonable prices.While this a move to appease potential investors and banks that handle their transactions, this will essentially kill 75 percent of their business, even though they will still allow nudity. I kind of feel bad for all the women (nurses, teachers, waitresses, etc.) who were able to create a livable wage during the pandemic.
I wonder if this will impact the restaurant industry by forcing some of these women back into the standard workforce. I would imagine most using OF don't have tremendously marketable skills, or at the very least, will be competing for jobs in the unskilled industry sector. If we see a five percent increase of women re-joining the workforce in October / November, there's a good bet that some of it is because of the OF policy. Expect Patreon to follow this lead.
MassageMeow
08-20-21, 12:33
While this a move to appease potential investors and banks that handle their transactions, this will essentially kill 75 percent of their business, even though they will still allow nudity. I kind of feel bad for all the women (nurses, teachers, waitresses, etc.) who were able to create a livable wage during the pandemic.
I wonder if this will impact the restaurant industry by forcing some of these women back into the standard workforce. I would imagine most using OF don't have tremendously marketable skills, or at the very least, will be competing for jobs in the unskilled industry sector. If we see a five percent increase of women re-joining the workforce in October / November, there's a good bet that some of it is because of the OF policy. Expect Patreon to follow this lead.Nudity is still allowed, but I am curious to see how much the demand drops. Since I don't use OF, and am kinda annoyed by the constant promotion of it, I'm watching this with a general sense of schadenfreude.
Frankly I'm glad its happening, but it probably won't be as bad as its being made out to be, but I really hope it tanks their subscriptions and makes it go the way of the dodo. These bitches need a correction, OF has overinflated rates and distorted reality for a lot of these "women" and its time to be set back straight. Hope their income from it falls off completely and their constant fucking spamming of their shitty content comes to an end. Ill be glad to see every "digital content only" ads on STG go away. I already see them begging for money on their twitters and this shit hasn't even happened yet. Feds keep kicking the can down the road with evictions and the free money for the unemployed, when that bubble pops and this OF shit comes to a head, I hope we all get the race to the bottom rates we have all been waiting for.
Some of the new OFs nudity rules.
Jimmysixxx7
08-21-21, 00:45
Frankly I'm glad its happening, but it probably won't be as bad as its being made out to be, but I really hope it tanks their subscriptions and makes it go the way of the dodo. These bitches need a correction, OF has overinflated rates and distorted reality for a lot of these "women" and its time to be set back straight. Hope their income from it falls off completely and their constant fucking spamming of their shitty content comes to an end. Ill be glad to see every "digital content only" ads on STG go away. I already see them begging for money on their twitters and this shit hasn't even happened yet. Feds keep kicking the can down the road with evictions and the free money for the unemployed, when that bubble pops and this OF shit comes to a head, I hope we all get the race to the bottom rates we have all been waiting for.There are already replacements and people are publicizing them.
There are already replacements and people are publicizing them. OF was only one of many sites people used to post photos and videos. It just so happened to be that one that became more widely known and used. Maybe the payout was better, the user interface was more friendly or whatever the reason it got the attention of sex workers. Once OF got more regular people and celebrities that were not involved in sex work it was only a matter of time that it would try to step away and try to become more mainstream. Hopefully this will help with rates for visits but I have a feeling that will just be wishful thinking. The hole that OF is creating by leaving the sex work game is going to be replaced by someone. It is just to lucrative to be left unfulfilled.
SeattleMassage
08-25-21, 10:00
They are now suspending ban:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/25/tech/onlyfans-suspends-ban/index.html
SeattleMassage
08-29-21, 08:26
Parents must pay $30,441 for getting rid of son's porn cache:
(now this must have been an interesting conversation) :
https://apnews.com/article/indiana-michigan-muncie-grand-haven-d52201655d54b71aa0d544245c1ecc97
Has anyone crossed the border recently since it open up? How strict is the crossing and coming back? Want to head up to bc for a sexcation.
Has anyone crossed the border recently since it open up? How strict is the crossing and coming back? Want to head up to bc for a sexcation.You must have the PCR test results within 72 hours of crossing. The Rapid test isn't enough.
Just be sure to clear your text messages and contacts with anything hobby related, especially with 604 and 778 area codes. Tell the ladies in Canada not to text or call you until you are safely in Canada.
When coming back, clear your phone, just in case you even randomly get sent into secondary inspection, even if it's for a random COVID test.
Wong Hing.
You must have the PCR test results within 72 hours of crossing. The Rapid test isn't enough.
Just be sure to clear your text messages and contacts with anything hobby related, especially with 604 and 778 area codes. Tell the ladies in Canada not to text or call you until you are safely in Canada.
When coming back, clear your phone, just in case you even randomly get sent into secondary inspection, even if it's for a random COVID test.
Wong Hing.They can check you phone? Is that even legal?
They can check you phone? Is that even legal?They probably can and it probably is. Border agents have a lot of power. That said, I wouldn't worry. I crossed the border a couple of weeks ago and all the Canadian guys cared about was the PCR test and having the ArriveCan app. Didn't even ask me the regular questions like where are you going or how long are you staying.
Now is a good time to go because Canadians still can't cross so there's no wait at the border and both sides were super laid back.
VikVaughanKon
09-22-21, 17:56
They can check you phone? Is that even legal?Yes, absolutely true and lots of legal precedent established that they can search anything, including all phones and computers when crossing the border.
Michael1967
09-22-21, 18:00
Yes, absolutely true and lots of legal precedent established that they can search anything, including all phones and computers when crossing the border.Just to clarify that. Yes, they can and they will. I had that issue returning from the DR, I was there for pussy, they thought I was there to smuggle drugs back.
They can check you phone? Is that even legal?Until you cross the threshold into the country assume you have minimal rights. They actually have a lot of latitude for search and seizure within 100 miles of a border which extends east of I-5 to the foothills. The border is not the place to show a snarky wit or they can search places you didn't know you had.
Clear your browsing history before you cross the border.
Open up a token site, Not your Gmail account for hobbying. Remove that account from Gmail temporarily, because you can add it back once you cross the border.
You can give decoy names like Changs Chinese, if the number to your agency in Vancouver has a 778 area code, modify it to 206, and change one digit. Write a Gmail to yourself reminding you what the correct number is.
https://komonews.com/news/local/prostitution-on-north-seattles-aurora-avenue-stirs-concern-as-some-seek-police-action
https://komonews.com/news/local/prostitution-on-north-seattles-aurora-avenue-stirs-concern-as-some-seek-police-actionBumping up.
Bumping up.Sure. What else do the police have to do now? Can't arrest druggies, homeless or minorities. That leaves sex related stuff. Perks of the job.
Street Troller
10-31-21, 19:13
Yes they can. They are just choosing not to so they can make a point to City Hall. Loitering laws were eliminated by unanimous decision, that DOES NOT mean they still can't go after crime. If someone is doing something wrong and it's illegal, they can stop, question and / or arrest. Again, police are just being whiny about it.
I don't understand the part of your statement about minorities, though, LOL. Going after someone just because they are a minority is absolutely wrong. Committing a crime, sure, but just for being Asian, no.
Sure. What else do the police have to do now? Can't arrest druggies, homeless or minorities. That leaves sex related stuff. Perks of the job.
Street Troller
11-02-21, 13:50
Saw this today. The father of an underage teen girl was charged for murdering his daughter's ex-boyfriend for allegedly selling her into sex trafficking in Seattle for $1000. She was transported from Spokane to Seattle and worked the area, wonder who she was -.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/spokane-police-19-year-old-murdered-after-selling-girlfriend-into-seattle-sex-trafficking-ring/YHYX2MDKVZGBXAD4KK2HXPARIE/
Saw this today. The father of an underage teen girl was charged for murdering his daughter's ex-boyfriend for allegedly selling her into sex trafficking in Seattle for $1000. She was transported from Spokane to Seattle and worked the area, wonder who she was -.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/spokane-police-19-year-old-murdered-after-selling-girlfriend-into-seattle-sex-trafficking-ring/YHYX2MDKVZGBXAD4KK2HXPARIE/Personally, I think the guy deserves a medal. The boyfriend sold a minor into sex trafficking. Too bad he didn't get the douchebags that trafficked her here in Seattle. I'm pro-legal prostitution, but, anyone trafficking, especially minors is a scumbag. Just my 2 cents.
Personally, I think the guy deserves a medal. The boyfriend sold a minor into sex trafficking. Too bad he didn't get the douchebags that trafficked her here in Seattle. I'm pro-legal prostitution, but, anyone trafficking, especially minors is a scumbag. Just my 2 cents.Same here.
WhoCaresThough
11-02-21, 22:11
Agreed. I hope the jury acquits or he gets a mistrial and the the drops it.
Rotten Robert
11-03-21, 02:06
Personally, I think the guy deserves a medal. The boyfriend sold a minor into sex trafficking. Too bad he didn't get the douchebags that trafficked her here in Seattle. I'm pro-legal prostitution, but, anyone trafficking, especially minors is a scumbag. Just my 2 cents.+2.
I couldn't agree more!
BobSizemore53
11-03-21, 02:12
Personally, I think the guy deserves a medal. The boyfriend sold a minor into sex trafficking. Too bad he didn't get the douchebags that trafficked her here in Seattle. I'm pro-legal prostitution, but, anyone trafficking, especially minors is a scumbag. Just my 2 cents.He deserves a medal if what he says is true. I'll reserve judgment until all the facts are published.
RavensBreach
11-03-21, 08:18
If after the investigation it's proven that the guy trafficked her, in a fair and just world the dad would be released immediately.
On the other hand, if it's proven that the guy was mistaken about what the dead dude is accused of doing, he should be jailed for the rest of his life.
They're not going to fuck around with this, we probably won't have to wait too long to find out the actual circumstances.
Right. Check out this story. Dad shoots and kills boy that he says he was told raped his daughter. Daughter says she never said that, never happened. Boy's still dead.
https://lawandcrime.com/crime/indiana-man-who-murdered-his-sons-best-friend-at-their-high-school-graduation-party-sentenced-to-55-years-in-prison/
Somebody watched Taken too many times.
If after the investigation it's proven that the guy trafficked her, in a fair and just world the dad would be released immediately.
On the other hand, if it's proven that the guy was mistaken about what the dead dude is accused of doing, he should be jailed for the rest of his life.
They're not going to fuck around with this, we probably won't have to wait too long to find out the actual circumstances.
Rotten Robert
11-04-21, 19:42
Personally, I think the guy deserves a medal. The boyfriend sold a minor into sex trafficking. Too bad he didn't get the douchebags that trafficked her here in Seattle. I'm pro-legal prostitution, but, anyone trafficking, especially minors is a scumbag. Just my 2 cents.If anyone is interested.
https://go.skimresources.com/?id=34784X1601670&xs=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgivesendgo.com%2Fhelpforjohneisenman&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.the-sun.com%2Fnews%2F4000094%2Fwho-john-eisenman-why-arrested%2F
Sticknmove
11-05-21, 11:09
https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/why-sex-trafficking-is-especially-high-in-seattle/281-4827db95-d25d-4b8f-ad52-9862a2ac30c4
She ends it with-If there's no buyers there's no business. So just stop? That is so short sighted it's blinding LOL. Legalizing apparently is not an option? What a great strategy, just get the buyers to stop buying. LOL.
https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/why-sex-trafficking-is-especially-high-in-seattle/281-4827db95-d25d-4b8f-ad52-9862a2ac30c4
She ends it with-If there's no buyers there's no business. So just stop? That is so short sighted it's blinding LOL. Legalizing apparently is not an option? What a great strategy, just get the buyers to stop buying. LOL.It's like they have a completely lost their grasp on reality.
Street Troller
11-05-21, 23:58
Now that Anne Davison won the City Attorney election we can expect more john stings. She wants to target buyers and police believe that she'll "let them work" again, for whatever that means. I mean, they made it sound as if they couldn't stop anyone for a chat which is wrong, they can.
But they do have a point though, if there are no buyers, girls will not have business. In that case, they'll leave the city altogether and go somewhere else. Not sure how that's helping anyone. That's the same as saying, "I don't like the homeless problem we have, so let's put them on a bus and send them somewhere else". Doesn't really solve the problem, does it? It just moves it along so that it's not your problem. Certainly not helping the people who need it the most.
Her opponent Kennedy wanted to de-criminalize sex work. Her view was that through de-criminalization sex workers would trust the government more and work with them to identify traffickers. The police union and others called her a "flat-out anarchist". We can't try new things, we will just continually go with the ol' tried-and-true arrest our way out of the problem which hasn't worked, will never work, and yet we always hope that it will.
I've noticed that since the out-of-towners have showed-up on Aurora en-masse starting in 2020 that there are some awfully young-looking girls out there. I haven't generally had to worry about that too much since the AAA died 10 years ago. But now I'll ask for it identification if I feel strange, of course no girl out there has one on her.
Regarding violence, I have yet to meet an SW who hasn't the victim of some sort of violence at the hands of a john. They do get it from the pimps, too, though. Would be interesting if there were numbers on either, I haven't checked yet but I should.
https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/why-sex-trafficking-is-especially-high-in-seattle/281-4827db95-d25d-4b8f-ad52-9862a2ac30c4
She ends it with-If there's no buyers there's no business. So just stop? That is so short sighted it's blinding LOL. Legalizing apparently is not an option? What a great strategy, just get the buyers to stop buying. LOL.
SeattleStiff
11-13-21, 22:01
Hotter than I'd ever have imagined. https://youtu.be/teZUOeotO5g.
Hotter than I'd ever have imagined. https://youtu.be/teZUOeotO5g.Pee Pee matters!
BaryMcCochener
11-14-21, 11:34
Hotter than I'd ever have imagined. https://youtu.be/teZUOeotO5g.Impressive.
Hotter than I'd ever have imagined. https://youtu.be/teZUOeotO5g.Wow. You can't be Pro-Trump on Youtube, but you CAN piss on people?
Wow. You can't be Pro-Trump on Youtube, but you CAN piss on people?Ya but trump is evil due to him creating the lowest unemployment in 60 years. Creating fair trade, energy independence I like paying more for gas.
And who doesn't like getting pissed on.
RustyWebfFoot
11-20-21, 00:18
https://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2021/11/19/high-risk-victims-unit-recovers-two-juvenile-victims-of-sex-trafficking-ring-during-aurora-ave-operation/
Saw these two articles this morning, I'm glad they got the underage girls off the street but it's interesting it comes just two days after the King county council passes their new legislation. We'll see how this all plays out.
Be careful out there gents.
https://komonews.com/news/local/seattle-police-two-teens-rescued-in-sex-trafficking-ring-along-aurora-ave
https://seattlemedium.com/human-trafficking-prevention-effort-passed-by-king-county-council/
PriceIsRight39
11-20-21, 18:00
Now that Anne Davison won the City Attorney election we can expect more john stings. She wants to target buyers and police believe that she'll "let them work" again, for whatever that means. I mean, they made it sound as if they couldn't stop anyone for a chat which is wrong, they can.
But they do have a point though, if there are no buyers, girls will not have business. In that case, they'll leave the city altogether and go somewhere else. Not sure how that's helping anyone. That's the same as saying, "I don't like the homeless problem we have, so let's put them on a bus and send them somewhere else". Doesn't really solve the problem, does it? It just moves it along so that it's not your problem. Certainly not helping the people who need it the most.
Her opponent Kennedy wanted to de-criminalize sex work. Her view was that through de-criminalization sex workers would trust the government more and work with them to identify traffickers. The police union and others called her a "flat-out anarchist". We can't try new things, we will just continually go with the ol' tried-and-true arrest our way out of the problem which hasn't worked, will never work, and yet we always hope that it will.
I've noticed that since the out-of-towners have showed-up on Aurora en-masse starting in 2020 that there are some awfully young-looking girls out there. I haven't generally had to worry about that too much since the AAA died 10 years ago. But now I'll ask for it identification if I feel strange, of course no girl out there has one on her.
Regarding violence, I have yet to meet an SW who hasn't the victim of some sort of violence at the hands of a john. They do get it from the pimps, too, though. Would be interesting if there were numbers on either, I haven't checked yet but I should.Voters want the general madness Seattle has become to get back to some lawfulness (good luck) I think decriminalization would in normal circumstances be acceptable. They voted for someone (a Republican Wow!) that promises an attempt at law and order. Also, the big tech oligarchs are quite prudish. May not support me grabbing a beer and some hot snatch at the club on the way home. LOL.
PriceIsRight39
11-20-21, 18:02
If anyone is interested.
https://go.skimresources.com/?id=34784X1601670&xs=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgivesendgo.com%2Fhelpforjohneisenman&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.the-sun.com%2Fnews%2F4000094%2Fwho-john-eisenman-why-arrested%2FBiden is the biggest trafficker at the moment. Flooding the victims in across the border. Sad.
PriceIsRight39
11-20-21, 18:04
https://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2021/11/19/high-risk-victims-unit-recovers-two-juvenile-victims-of-sex-trafficking-ring-during-aurora-ave-operation/Republican city attorney. Ouch for those two fellas! They should join ANTIFA, they'll right out!!
Street Troller
11-20-21, 18:09
Police could have taken action at any time. They chose not to. Residents have been complaining and SPD told them there was nothing they could do. Then suddenly IMMEDIATELY after the election all of this stuff goes down? Yeah, no. Police were playing politics, end of story on that one.
Come on here, people.
Voters want the general madness Seattle has become to get back to some lawfulness (good luck) I think decriminalization would in normal circumstances be acceptable. They voted for someone (a Republican Wow!) that promises an attempt at law and order. Also, the big tech oligarchs are quite prudish. May not support me grabbing a beer and some hot snatch at the club on the way home. LOL.
Saw these two articles this morning, I'm glad they got the underage girls off the street but it's interesting it comes just two days after the King county council passes their new legislation. We'll see how this all plays out.
Be careful out there gents.
https://komonews.com/news/local/seattle-police-two-teens-rescued-in-sex-trafficking-ring-along-aurora-ave
https://seattlemedium.com/human-trafficking-prevention-effort-passed-by-king-county-council/Pretty sure I saw those girls last week. To me, they looked about 15/16 but could definitely tell they were underage. Very sad.
OneSizeFitsFew
12-22-21, 10:27
https://www.q13fox.com/news/16-arrested-in-bellevue-prostitution-sting
Member #6240
12-22-21, 10:33
https://www.q13fox.com/news/16-arrested-in-bellevue-prostitution-stingIs there detail on which "dating app" was used?
Is there detail on which "dating app" was used?If I had to guess, probably escort alligator.
"Prostitution is not a victimless crime. Many sex workers become victims of robbery, assault and rape," said Cpt. Shelby Shearer.
Robbery, assault, and rape are indeed crimes of victimization, but none of them are prostitution.
I fucking hate this kind of shit. These people can't get off unless they know they're controlling how other people live their lives and they come up with ridiculous mental gymnastics to justify their use of the government's monopoly on violence as a tool of sexual domination.
Is there detail on which "dating app" was used?Somebody on the other mentioned Tinder.
Cops don't care about these women. Just a year end money grab.
https://www.q13fox.com/news/16-arrested-in-bellevue-prostitution-sting
Definitely a STG sting.
Multiple articles on this.
Odds are someone here got busted from here. You should post the ad.
Andro Bernard
12-29-21, 02:41
https://www.q13fox.com/news/16-arrested-in-bellevue-prostitution-sting
Definitely a STG sting.
Multiple articles on this.
Odds are someone here got busted from here. You should post the ad.Look at that "prostitution class for johns" they reference in this link.
Total truth: Let me tell you who you have to listen to talk, if you get sent to this "John school."
Don't ban me. Look at the Seattle Times article on the 2016 K-Girl sting, and you will see her. She is the president of a "survivors of prostitution" foundation, and her REAL name is public knowledge:
Alyssa Bernard.
You may have booked her, through several agencies in the 2000-2010 range. She worked as an indy too.
Again, DON'T BAN ME. Her name is public knowledge, as far as I'm concerned.
Look here if you don't believe me. Scroll down:
Alisa Bernard.
https://projects.seattletimes.com/2017/eastside-prostitution-bust/
I won't say which agencies she worked for, or what her names were.
The point is, do you want to face Alisa Bernard in John school?
https://www.q13fox.com/news/16-arrested-in-bellevue-prostitution-sting
Definitely a STG sting.
Multiple articles on this.
Odds are someone here got busted from here. You should post the ad.Is STG an online dating app?
Skip the Games.
Is STG an online dating app?
WaRubMonger
12-29-21, 14:51
Is STG an online dating app?Nope, just Google your city and skip the games.
Andro Bernard
12-29-21, 21:37
https://www.q13fox.com/news/16-arrested-in-bellevue-prostitution-sting
Definitely a STG sting.
Multiple articles on this.
Odds are someone here got busted from here. You should post the ad.Read my Post Number 1296, about how the Bellevue Police failed to protect me TWICE:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?32131-Rants-Raves-and-Stupid-Shit-in-Seattle.
They fail to put a stop to some hotheads chasing me in a high speed road rage incident. But, would rather set up a STG Sting, and arrest 20 male hobbyists in a Bellevue motel. Get your priorities straight!
These Johns that they arrested and busted, are easy targets for police: Guys who don't have the social skills to get women, so they have to pay for it. Nickel and dime crime, if you ask me.
https://www.q13fox.com/news/16-arrested-in-bellevue-prostitution-sting"One suspect in particular had previously given statements to police saying he wanted to kill a prostitute. When he was arrested at the motel, detectives found two guns in his waistband. ".
Rumor has it, they wrote him a ticket and gave him his gun back.
Andro Bernard
12-30-21, 15:50
"One suspect in particular had previously given statements to police saying he wanted to kill a prostitute. When he was arrested at the motel, detectives found two guns in his waistband. ".
Rumor has it, they wrote him a ticket and gave him his gun back.Sounds like the same Bellevue Police who failed to watch over those road rage assholes that I got into the tangles with.
Read my Post Number 1296, about how the Bellevue Police failed to protect me TWICE:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?32131-Rants-Raves-and-Stupid-Shit-in-Seattle.
They fail to put a stop to some hotheads chasing me in a high speed road rage incident. But, would rather set up a STG Sting, and arrest 20 male hobbyists in a Bellevue motel. Get your priorities straight!
These Johns that they arrested and busted, are easy targets for police: Guys who don't have the social skills to get women, so they have to pay for it. Nickel and dime crime, if you ask me.I have to agree with this. In my personal opinion (again just my POV on this from seeing providers over 20+ years) - WA state has taken the wrong approach to curbing prostitution. By only punishing the John they feel they are helping the victims. But for the most part. Not all, but a large majority of the SPs I have seen are not being forced to do this. In fact if you gave them money asked them to leave. They would blow it all up on (whatever) and come right back to posting ads. Now I know there is exploitation going on, but the approach taken here clearly is not working. When will people learn. Criminilizing something does not cull demand. Look back at prohibition, drugs and any other issue. Banning and criminilizing something is NOT the way to control demand. It simply does not work. We need to look at Europe and especially Portugal and look at the numbers there as a good example. Like anything else a multi-pronged approach is required. Seattle is bursting at the seams with violent crime right now. Not sure why the few police we have left are being asked to utilize their time doing this.
Michael1967
12-30-21, 17:34
I have to agree with this. In my personal opinion (again just my POV on this from seeing providers over 20+ years) - WA state has taken the wrong approach to curbing prostitution. By only punishing the John they feel they are helping the victims. But for the most part. Not all, but a large majority of the SPs I have seen are not being forced to do this. In fact if you gave them money asked them to leave. They would blow it all up on (whatever) and come right back to posting ads. Now I know there is exploitation going on, but the approach taken here clearly is not working. When will people learn. Criminilizing something does not cull demand. Look back at prohibition, drugs and any other issue. Banning and criminilizing something is NOT the way to control demand. It simply does not work. We need to look at Europe and especially Portugal and look at the numbers there as a good example. Like anything else a multi-pronged approach is required. Seattle is bursting at the seams with violent crime right now. Not sure why the few police we have left are being asked to utilize their time doing this.I feel the same way, if I ever felt someone was doing it against their will, I would walk out. I can honestly say (with probably the exception of a few streetwalkers), I don't believe anyone that I've seen has been pimped. Ever. For the most part, recently the vast majority of women I see do it for income and to feed their family. In previous years, it was probably to feed a drug habit. Rarely was it given to a pimp.
Lee Groinman
12-30-21, 20:07
Sounds like the same Bellevue Police who failed to watch over those road rage assholes that I got into the tangles with.We got it the first time Rex.
Andro Bernard
12-30-21, 21:02
We got it the first time Rex.Listen, stay on topic.
So just listen up and help each other avoid these time wasting.
SfoDavid67
12-31-21, 12:26
I have to agree with this. In my personal opinion (again just my POV on this from seeing providers over 20+ years) - WA state has taken the wrong approach to curbing prostitution. By only punishing the John they feel they are helping the victims. But for the most part. Not all, but a large majority of the SPs I have seen are not being forced to do this. In fact if you gave them money asked them to leave. They would blow it all up on (whatever) and come right back to posting ads. Now I know there is exploitation going on, but the approach taken here clearly is not working. When will people learn. Criminilizing something does not cull demand. Look back at prohibition, drugs and any other issue. Banning and criminilizing something is NOT the way to control demand. It simply does not work. We need to look at Europe and especially Portugal and look at the numbers there as a good example. Like anything else a multi-pronged approach is required. Seattle is bursting at the seams with violent crime right now. Not sure why the few police we have left are being asked to utilize their time doing this.Many municipalities are taking this approach to ONLY punishing the guys. Texas made it a FELONY with MINIMUM of a 5 year prison sentence and register as a sex offender when released. Pretty harsh, I have played in Texas in the past (I travel frequently so I am all over) but those risks are too high. Police have been getting pretty sneaky on stings. Hijacking profiles of known providers and posting new ads with "new number" and recruiting known girls to work for them in setting up stings. Picking up SW for dates is even riskier. Safest is in-call to you from known providers. Highly unlikely that would be a sting as police have far less control over that situation, but you still never know.
Many municipalities are taking this approach to ONLY punishing the guys. Texas made it a FELONY with MINIMUM of a 5 year prison sentence and register as a sex offender when released. Pretty harsh, I have played in Texas in the past (I travel frequently so I am all over) but those risks are too high. Police have been getting pretty sneaky on stings. Hijacking profiles of known providers and posting new ads with "new number" and recruiting known girls to work for them in setting up stings. Picking up SW for dates is even riskier. Safest is in-call to you from known providers. Highly unlikely that would be a sting as police have far less control over that situation, but you still never know.Yeah I travel agressively for work too. I mean atleast 2-3 cities a week (atleast I used to until the pandemic hit). I have hobbied in Austin, Huston and parts of Dallas. Surprising did not know about the this. Really really sad that the great state of TX has taken this approach. Thansks for letting me know this is great intel. This whole logic. Of trying to targer the demand just seems unfair and ineffective. Would like to see numbers and relationships between the time they changed the law to do this, and how effective that has been on actually reducing demand. On the other hand I would also like to see the trend of this law on the providers and how this law has negatively impacted crimes committed by providers (but ofcourse there will no direct / reputable stats for that). I am pretty sure that if a provider knows that the consequences of her getting in trouble are minimal. That may actually increase traffic and crime. That is the problem with these laws. Once you outlaw something. It becomes nearly impossible to get good reputable statistics on the outcomes and then you are not making decisions based on numbers, trends and facts but based on what the bible and your gut instincts of what is right and wrong. Ridiculous. The best solution is to legalize this by acknoweldging that men WILL find a way to get off and that the large majority of men are not looking to break the law or exploit. Just to release stress. Similarly. No one should have the right to tell a woman what profession she can work in. Germany in particular has done a fantastic job with this. I LOVE hobbying there. It is clean, secure and safe. Anyway I am ranting.
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Interesting to read what all the civvys think of the streetwalkers on Aurora.
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/rxxp4w/how_does_prostitution_work_on_aurora[/UL]
MassageMeow
02-09-22, 12:28
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/burien-man-accused-of-raping-13-year-old-attempting-to-pimp-her-out-on-seattles-aurora-avenue-north/
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/burien-man-accused-of-raping-13-year-old-attempting-to-pimp-her-out-on-seattles-aurora-avenue-north/Yeah saw this while browsing news the other day. This happened about a week ago. He paid for her ticket to come to SEA, he intented to put her on AA and did not realize he was talking to an undercover agent instead. Serves him right. We really need to get tougher on crime. It is people like this that are ruining it for the rest of us. Hobbying is a natural urge. It should be legal. These people involve children, abuse, drugs and violence into the hobby and ruin it for the rest of us.
Street Troller
02-09-22, 15:00
"After arriving in Seattle, the man drove to a secluded area, forced the girl into his back seat and raped her, the charges say. He instructed her on which sex acts to perform and how much to charge, told her to tell sex buyers she was 21, then gave her clothing, a condom, a cellphone with his phone number saved in the contact list, $2 and a pair of brass knuckles for protection, according to the charges. He then dropped her off and instructed her to meet him later at the Krispy Kreme doughnut shop on Aurora, the charges say.
The girl had also described her original clothing and shoes to police as well as the book bag and stuffed animal she had left in the man's car. After officers pulled the Lexus over, officers spotted many of the items the girl described through a rear window of the Lexus".
Aurora has definitely become more of a pimpy stroll in the past couple of years. I know for a fact that there are plenty of adult hookers who actually want to be with a pimp, why not seek one of those out if you're so hell-bent on being a pimp?
While I don't think that every SW out there who looks young is underage, this is yet again another reminder to verify. If she's young, ask for identification, if she can't or won't produce it, hit the gas.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/burien-man-accused-of-raping-13-year-old-attempting-to-pimp-her-out-on-seattles-aurora-avenue-north/
GangBangLeader
04-18-22, 16:59
Welcome to the liberal utopia.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/2-arrested-after-north-seattle-motel-shooting/P4VB3OBFARCK3JW65M43WCWYUE/
"After arriving in Seattle, the man drove to a secluded area, forced the girl into his back seat and raped her, the charges say. He instructed her on which sex acts to perform and how much to charge, told her to tell sex buyers she was 21, then gave her clothing, a condom, a cellphone with his phone number saved in the contact list, $2 and a pair of brass knuckles for protection, according to the charges. He then dropped her off and instructed her to meet him later at the Krispy Kreme doughnut shop on Aurora, the charges say.
The girl had also described her original clothing and shoes to police as well as the book bag and stuffed animal she had left in the man's car. After officers pulled the Lexus over, officers spotted many of the items the girl described through a rear window of the Lexus".
Aurora has definitely become more of a pimpy stroll in the past couple of years. I know for a fact that there are plenty of adult hookers who actually want to be with a pimp, why not seek one of those out if you're so hell-bent on being a pimp?
While I don't think that every SW out there who looks young is underage, this is yet again another reminder to verify. If she's young, ask for identification, if she can't or won't produce it, hit the gas.Dude this is really some troubling and scary shit. Crime has gone through the roof here in the SEA and in the country as a whole. What a terrible thing to have to live through.
These blisters look scary. It seems this is now spreading sexually or by the exchange of bodily fluids. Scary.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/05/18/927043767/rare-monkeypox-outbreak-in-u-k-and-europe-what-is-it-and-should-we-worry
BBPornoGeek
05-19-22, 11:33
Welcome to the liberal utopia.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/2-arrested-after-north-seattle-motel-shooting/P4VB3OBFARCK3JW65M43WCWYUE/How is this a liberal issue? It happens all over the country.
Another article today. This is really picking up steam in the UK and USA. The CDC finally weighs in.
https://www.statnews.com/2022/05/19/a-cdc-expert-answers-questions-on-monkeypox/
TheNovelist
06-01-22, 20:46
Welcome to the liberal utopia.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/2-arrested-after-north-seattle-motel-shooting/P4VB3OBFARCK3JW65M43WCWYUE/
Your statement seems nothing more than some gaslighting effort at best. Political ideology has nothing to do with it, and I think you know that.
CrackedWheat
06-01-22, 21:08
Welcome to the liberal utopia.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/2-arrested-after-north-seattle-motel-shooting/P4VB3OBFARCK3JW65M43WCWYUE/Wow, dude your rage not only is misplaced it shows you how disconnected from the truth the right has become. Let's start with this, guns were involved, which party is in bed with the NRA? Stop reading qAnon and develop some original ideas not someone else's talking points.
CW.
How is this a liberal issue? It happens all over the country.Could not agree more. The entire country is reeling with pain and shock. This is an American problem, the best country in the world is struggling to keep internal terrorism and crime under check. Young children and old patients in hospitals now have to worried about terrorists with automatic rifles? What has happened to us and when will this end? Calling this crime wave as political, seems tone-deaf to the current situation. I really hope we as a nation heal and come together soon. An issue like this could actually be something that brings the political divide closer, however unlikely that seems. Sorry for the rant, but it is depressing to put the TV on these days.
CoronaLime
06-08-22, 18:49
How is this a liberal issue? It happens all over the country.All over country in liberal city.
Michael1967
06-08-22, 20:09
All over country in liberal city.I'm going to say, there is a lot of crime in Seattle and other locations along the West Coast caused by liberal policies. I will 100% agree with that. School shootings, that's 99.9999% on conservatives.
Street Troller
06-08-22, 20:19
Guys, stats tell us that the most crime-ridden areas in the US are actually in red states. Just go take a look. I don't get why people think that California and more lefty areas are the worst, the worst areas and cities are actually Republican-controlled.
All over country in liberal city.
Michael1967
06-08-22, 23:15
Guys, stats tell us that the most crime-ridden areas in the US are actually in red states. Just go take a look. I don't get why people think that California and more lefty areas are the worst, the worst areas and cities are actually Republican-controlled.When you have policies that decide that crimes are no longer crimes and people no longer call the police because they know that nothing will be done then (Surprise!)You have better crime stats. EVERY time I go to the store, I see at least one person with a full shopping cart leave without even glancing at the registers. I drove by Southcenter yesterday and saw about 15 homeless looking guys in the parking lot dividing up piles and piles of goods that they probably stole from the mall. No one cared. Theft is no longer a crime in this area. Other parts of the country it still is.
Spectacular
06-08-22, 23:19
https://projects.seattletimes.com/2017/eastside-prostitution-bust/
What happened to the crack down in 2018?
And.
Matra.
Beverly.
Asian Jennifer.
And if there's still in town.
Jannylovelove.
Cutefire24 (Sordong).
Similar expirience to an AMPs except working from a private residence, so no walk in. Offer massage, etc. And advertise on TNA board.
Some of these ladies have seen me on pretty short notice if they aren't busy.
Street Troller
06-09-22, 00:15
But that all of that still doesn't change the fact that the cities with the highest crime are actually in conservatives-controlled areas. You've listed some anecdotal experiences, which are fine, they're your experiences, but that doesn't mean that what you see isn't also happening elsewhere and at larger rates.
My point is that this isn't a "liberal" problem. By now this is an American problem. That it happens regardless of political status and control means that we aren't addressing any of these issues as a society in the proper way.
When you have policies that decide that crimes are no longer crimes and people no longer call the police because they know that nothing will be done then (Surprise!)You have better crime stats. EVERY time I go to the store, I see at least one person with a full shopping cart leave without even glancing at the registers. I drove by Southcenter yesterday and saw about 15 homeless looking guys in the parking lot dividing up piles and piles of goods that they probably stole from the mall. No one cared. Theft is no longer a crime in this area. Other parts of the country it still is.
Crime has to be a crime to make the stats my friend. She ain't a ho if she ain't getting paid, right? LOL.
Guys, stats tell us that the most crime-ridden areas in the US are actually in red states. Just go take a look. I don't get why people think that California and more lefty areas are the worst, the worst areas and cities are actually Republican-controlled.
Marko Ramius
06-09-22, 10:02
This is just anecdotal. I live in one of the most right-wing places you can find in this near-communist state. In the last couple of years shoplifting and car prowls have exploded here. When you call the cops after your car is clouted they will tell you to either drive to the sheriff's office to make a report or an officer will contact you in a couple of days. I've never heard of them doing anything more than that.
When I talk to friends in my former haunts in the wilderness of Montana I'm hearing similar stories. One particularly appalling story was about when an area was recently evacuated during a wildfire, some pretty organized group of thieves came in and looted multiple homes. And they must have brought a moving van because they took everything that wasn't bolted to the floors.
So I'm not sure it is a liberal or conservative thing or just that the world is Fucked Up right now.
MartyByrde
06-09-22, 13:11
So I'm not sure it is a liberal or conservative thing or just that the world is Fucked Up right now.That says it perfectly!
Myself, I am concerned about visiting In Calls and / or AMPs, with the fear that my car will get jacked. And as you so correctly noted, the police will do nothing. It is one of the main reasons I am limiting my hobbying to repeat visits at AMPs, where (so far) things are safe. There is actually an AMP I want to visit in the International District, and it's right across the street from "Little Saigon". As it is, parking is limited. But no way would I bring my vehicle there. If I did make the journey, it would be by Light Rail. Yeah, would take a somewhat longer, but better to be safe than sorry.
As someone who has had a few car break ins back before things were all "fucked up," like back in the late 90, early aughts, that's pretty much all they did. Couple times in Seattle and then 1 or 2 break in's north of Seattle outside of the "communist zone. ".
The officers told me all they do small property thefts is provide you a report for your insurance. And this was decades before any defund the police / tolerance talk, etc.
The first time it happened, I was trying to point out to the police possible fingerprints that I was sure were probably the thief's and he just kind of chuckled and said there weren't going to be doing all that. Gave me a case number for my insurance and left.
This is just anecdotal. I live in one of the most right-wing places you can find in this near-communist state. In the last couple of years shoplifting and car prowls have exploded here. When you call the cops after your car is clouted they will tell you to either drive to the sheriff's office to make a report or an officer will contact you in a couple of days. I've never heard of them doing anything more than that.
When I talk to friends in my former haunts in the wilderness of Montana I'm hearing similar stories. One particularly appalling story was about when an area was recently evacuated during a wildfire, some pretty organized group of thieves came in and looted multiple homes. And they must have brought a moving van because they took everything that wasn't bolted to the floors.
So I'm not sure it is a liberal or conservative thing or just that the world is Fucked Up right now.
MassageMeow
06-10-22, 00:59
The first time it happened, I was trying to point out to the police possible fingerprints that I was sure were probably the thief's and he just kind of chuckled and said there weren't going to be doing all that. Gave me a case number for my insurance and left.Was this the police officer you spoke with?
https://youtu.be/v7acD4q0lp0
Regularity
06-10-22, 16:16
This is just anecdotal. I live in one of the most right-wing places you can find in this near-communist state. In the last couple of years shoplifting and car prowls have exploded here. When you call the cops after your car is clouted they will tell you to either drive to the sheriff's office to make a report or an officer will contact you in a couple of days. I've never heard of them doing anything more than that.
When I talk to friends in my former haunts in the wilderness of Montana I'm hearing similar stories. One particularly appalling story was about when an area was recently evacuated during a wildfire, some pretty organized group of thieves came in and looted multiple homes. And they must have brought a moving van because they took everything that wasn't bolted to the floors.
So I'm not sure it is a liberal or conservative thing or just that the world is Fucked Up right now.Back in the mid-2000's, my truck was broken into in a politically moderate county. I flipped out because the thieves got some of my paperwork that led to an identity theft. When I called the sheriff's office, they told me that car prowls were common, and they gave me police report, which was useful for reporting any fraud that happened in my name. I told officer that I wanted my car fingerprinted and the thieves caught, but since it was a property crime, they weren't going to waste resources on that. They were dealing with domestic violence, rapists, murders and other cases that were more important than a car break in.
Luckily, the thieves used their address to apply for credit in my name, and it showed up on my credit report. They ended up getting caught, and they never were able to obtain any credit in my name.
Regularity
06-10-22, 16:22
This is just anecdotal. I live in one of the most right-wing places you can find in this near-communist state. In the last couple of years shoplifting and car prowls have exploded here. When you call the cops after your car is clouted they will tell you to either drive to the sheriff's office to make a report or an officer will contact you in a couple of days. I've never heard of them doing anything more than that.
When I talk to friends in my former haunts in the wilderness of Montana I'm hearing similar stories. One particularly appalling story was about when an area was recently evacuated during a wildfire, some pretty organized group of thieves came in and looted multiple homes. And they must have brought a moving van because they took everything that wasn't bolted to the floors.
So I'm not sure it is a liberal or conservative thing or just that the world is Fucked Up right now.Back in the mid-2000's, my truck was broken into in a politically moderate county. I flipped out because the thieves got some of my paperwork that led to an identity theft. When I called the sheriff's office, they told me that car prowls were common, and they gave me police report, which was useful for reporting any fraud that happened in my name. I told officer that I wanted my car fingerprinted and the thieves caught, but since it was a property crime, they weren't going to waste resources on that. They were dealing with domestic violence, rapists, murders and other cases that were more important than a car break in.
Luckily, the thieves used their address to apply for credit in my name, and it showed up on my credit report. They ended up getting caught, and they never were able to obtain any credit in my name.
FunLover1981
06-14-22, 12:56
I'm going to say, there is a lot of crime in Seattle and other locations along the West Coast caused by liberal policies. I will 100% agree with that. School shootings, that's 99.9999% on conservatives.How are School shootings partisan? They are perpetuated by mentally ill people who have no respect for the rest of society, The Left wants to make policies like gun free zones, magazine capacity rules and storages laws thinking that will somehow matter to a person who has no respect for the law. The Right who support the NRA, more and more I've been noticing people on the right moving away from the NRA because they have become out of touch with reality as well. Guns are not the issue trying to blame it on that is like blaming US oil drilling policy for the BP oil disaster in the Gulf. What that came down to is oil executives being more greedy and not respecting the laws and regulations for engineering standards. They decided to risk a national disaster to make a couple bucks. Criminals don't give AF about the laws, Murder is already illegal.
Street Troller
06-14-22, 14:28
"Liberal policies make states and cities more dangerous".
<mass school shooting occurs in Texas, a Republican state, which kills 19 10 years-olds .
Well, there goes that theory. LOL, jeez guys, how about everyone start looking at stats and facts again instead of getting your "facts" and news from memes which Tucker Carlson's team post on Facebook? Somebody's making money on that shit, and you are playing right into that.
RavensBreach
06-14-22, 17:37
It's pretty much pointless to argue either side of the political sphere when it comes to the state of gun violence in the us. 99%+ of mass shootings are in poverty-stricken gang areas, and our crimes of opportunity and gang violence, with innocents being caught by stray bullets. Conservative or liberal state, doesn't matter whatsoever. Find a poor area with a heavy proclivity of contesting gang activity, and you're going to have a high proclivity of mass shootings. Liberalism and conservatism is irrelevant. And if you pull statistics on whether or not the guns used in mass shootings were illegally obtained or legally obtained, it's a mix of both. There's a significant number of mass shootings using illegal weapons AND legal weapons. And the fact of the matter is, 99%+ of mass shootings are targeted attacks against particular people, where innocents accidentally get caught in the crossfire.
Then you've got the completely horrendous instances of targeted mass shooting of Innocents. School shootings, the Buffalo grocery store shooting, etc. Pure unadultered evil. And they're almost all with very few exception hyper conservative motivated. But they also consist of less than 1% of mass shootings in the US. Far less than 1%, they're extremely extremely extremely rare. So even if you erase the hyper conservative element and eliminate all mass shootings that would go in the category of purposefully targeting innocents, you're still doing almost nothing whatsoever in the overall grand scheme of what would be mass shootings in the US.
This isn't a liberal or conservative issue. This is a mental health issue. This is an issue of a culture that exists where you've got young men whose lives revolve around my tribe versus your tribe, and they live mere blocks away from each other in densely populated poverty-stricken areas. And if you ban guns, they're going to get them illegally. And if you don't ban guns, it'll continue to be a mix of both illegal and legally obtained. Those are what consist of 99% of mass shootings. School shootings are a drop of water in a pool, and legislation preventing it would be great, but it ain't going to do much.
Ender Wiggins
06-15-22, 14:37
Police at QSpa in Renton this morning. Just FYI.
SeattleMassage
06-15-22, 17:26
Read:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/police-arrest-woman-promoting-prostitution-renton-massage-parlor/AKSGJOJGDNCL3NZHHFXPMR6H3U/
SeattleMassage
06-15-22, 17:29
Police at QSpa in Renton this morning. Just FYI.The story link is posted on the news and media reports page.
Police at QSpa in Renton this morning. Just FYI.Renton PD posted on FB about it. Arrested a 39 yo for promotion and imprisonment. Woman said she applied to work there and was held against her will.
Police at QSpa in Renton this morning. Just FYI.Cops need handy's too!
Anyone been to Q Spa in Renton? Just saw on the news the Renton Police and SWAT team served a search warrant and arrested one of the gals today. My biggest fear is me in a towel or less, getting a massage and having the police and SWAT team come barging in.
SmithSonok
06-16-22, 00:02
Anyone been to Q Spa in Renton? Just saw on the news the Renton Police and SWAT team served a search warrant and arrested one of the gals today. My biggest fear is me in a towel or less, getting a massage and having the police and SWAT team come barging in.https://www.rentonreporter.com/news/woman-arrested-at-renton-massage-parlor-on-felony-charges/
PoonHunter2
07-01-22, 18:46
I was down in LA and got spoiled by the fact that many places offered the option of choosing your girl. Do any of the local places offer this?
I assume other folks got an email from "leak@tnaboard.com", with their tna I'd, and samples of PMs they'd received? Asking for a modest 200 in Bitcoin? Of course, since I use a VPN and a protonmail account, I really don't give a shit, but some folks, if they didn't take precautions, might. Either way, sounds like a really bad breach of security.
BobSizemore53
07-02-22, 10:55
I got one too, check your spam folder.
Might as well assume passwords were stolen too.
Muncher7000
07-02-22, 11:00
It will be interesting what happens in the next few days. My email is hard to find since its on an off shore server and password, BTW it was PhuckACunt, I really don't give a shit if they have it since I would never use PhuckACunt for my password to my bank accounts.
Anyway TNA was becoming useless. In the LUSH years it was a rowdy place to have fun. God the amount of shit that was given out was amazing.
Oh well sorry to see it go.
I assume other folks got an email from "leak@tnaboard.com", with their tna I'd, and samples of PMs they'd received? Asking for a modest 200 in Bitcoin? Of course, since I use a VPN and a protonmail account, I really don't give a shit, but some folks, if they didn't take precautions, might. Either way, sounds like a really bad breach of security.
I also got the same email. Doesn't really mean much. Email is dedicated strictly for pooning so there's no connection to my real life. Majority of my PMs are TDL replies from providers. Really not a big deal.
I'm sure the peanut gallery that have like 50K posts in 4 years will have a whole bunch of PII floating around since they like to do their stupid meetups and give PII to providers to prove they can be Captain Save-a-ho's whenever someone like BK can't even afford to take care of a traffic tickets.
I got one too, check your spam folder.
Might as well assume passwords were stolen too.Are there other TNA like websites you guys use? I should have written down some phone numbers for providers like Gracee and Laila. Bummer.
SeattleMassage
07-02-22, 12:22
I also received one of those threatening emails saying they were going to release info.
I also received one of those threatening emails saying they were going to release info.Probably just looking for someone or people to pay it without thinking. RIP *.
CrackedWheat
07-02-22, 13:01
I got one too, check your spam folder.
Might as well assume passwords were stolen too.I didn't get one. Not sure if they followed accepted procedures but emails are stored in the clear. Passwords should be encrypted. Don’t use passwords on poon sites that you use in your civi life.
CW.
EddyWhtwtr
07-02-22, 13:51
I didn't get one. Not sure if they followed accepted procedures but emails are stored in the clear. Passwords should be encrypted. Dont use passwords on poon sites that you use in your civi life.
CW.Best practice would have been to encrypt all account data, passwords for sure but who knows what was actually done. Good idea to change your hobby email password and consider enabling two factor authentication.
NachoCheese
07-02-22, 15:02
Best practiceYou're funny.
Never reuse a password, and if any password of yours shows up in a data breach, change it immediately. There are services out there that track password breaches and let you test your passwords against them. One such service is linked below:
https://haveibeenpwned.com/
Rockets1234
07-02-22, 15:38
I assume other folks got an email from "leak@tnaboard.com", with their tna I'd, and samples of PMs they'd received? Asking for a modest 200 in Bitcoin? Of course, since I use a VPN and a protonmail account, I really don't give a shit, but some folks, if they didn't take precautions, might. Either way, sounds like a really bad breach of security.I have used a separate email addy, vpn, hobby phone and have never put any personal info on there. I have logged in by mistake with the vpn turned off a few times. Would that be a problem? How far back is would the data go?
EddyWhtwtr
07-02-22, 16:45
You're funny.
Never reuse a password, and if any password of yours shows up in a data breach, change it immediately. There are services out there that track password breaches and let you test your passwords against them. One such service is linked below:
https://haveibeenpwned.com/I agree with all you said.
No doubt you get that 'best practice' was used in reference to how data is secured on the server (encryption at rest, in transit) and not to how users manage their passwords.
Two factor auth is helpful if your password is compromised.
Member #6240
07-02-22, 18:31
Best practice would have been to encrypt all account data, passwords for sure but who knows what was actually done. Good idea to change your hobby email password and consider enabling two factor authentication.I can't think of any way to store cleartext passwords in vBulletin.
Still, would definitely agree that the password, phone number and email is compromised regardless.
I wonder if the ladies will accept lower donations, now that they can't advertise, so less demand. Doubtful, but a boy can dream.
MartyByrde
07-02-22, 20:29
I wonder if the ladies will accept lower donations, now that they can't advertise, so less demand. Doubtful, but a boy can dream.If all hobbyists would make lower offers, most likely the gals will either accept it, or would be willing to negotiate. This is actually an ideal time to do it.
RavensBreach
07-03-22, 08:27
Per TNA's twitter (which I didn't even know they had one).
"Hi All. We have been silent here for a login time but we are now back. We are rebuilding the * Platform to bring you a fresh feel and functionaility. We sincerely apologize for the downtime. ".
"If you have any features you would like to see on our new site let us know and we will do our best to accommodate. Our aim is to build the best platform for our valued members. ".
No mention of the hack, we'll have to see what this turns out to be.
What is the tna twitter account? And is there a reddit?
Per TNA's twitter (which I didn't even know they had one).
"Hi All. We have been silent here for a login time but we are now back. We are rebuilding the * Platform to bring you a fresh feel and functionaility. We sincerely apologize for the downtime. ".
"If you have any features you would like to see on our new site let us know and we will do our best to accommodate. Our aim is to build the best platform for our valued members. ".
No mention of the hack, we'll have to see what this turns out to be.
PacificoWang
07-03-22, 11:32
Per TNA's twitter (which I didn't even know they had one).
"Hi All. We have been silent here for a login time but we are now back. We are rebuilding the * Platform to bring you a fresh feel and functionaility. We sincerely apologize for the downtime. ".
"If you have any features you would like to see on our new site let us know and we will do our best to accommodate. Our aim is to build the best platform for our valued members. ".
No mention of the hack, we'll have to see what this turns out to be.
I went to twitter to message them. However, they do not except DMs, and I don't want to post publicly there. I would like to be able to organize my TDL by region or area. Seattle, Portland, Boise ect. It would be even better if I could organize it by north, south, east, and west King County. Also, if I could organize who was at the top of the list, that would be nice too.
MartyByrde
07-03-22, 13:15
I wonder if the ladies will accept lower donations, now that they can't advertise, so less demand. Doubtful, but a boy can dream.Never hurts to ask. As it is, there have been a few posts in the Bareback and Escort forums about lower donations.
MassageMeow
07-03-22, 13:23
Based off screenshots posted to Twitter.
https://twitter.com/ScarlettSynz/status/1543440739723403264?s=20&t=F61PKNUlmDR-r2PcowwM3A
BlackMarketBb
07-03-22, 14:14
Based off screenshots posted to Twitter.
https://twitter.com/ScarlettSynz/status/1543440739723403264?s=20&t=F61PKNUlmDR-r2PcowwM3ACare to share a pic for those of us who don't want to sign up for Twitter?
NachoCheese
07-03-22, 14:34
I have used a separate email addy, vpn, hobby phone and have never put any personal info on there. I have logged in by mistake with the vpn turned off a few times. Would that be a problem? How far back is would the data go?It depends on their data retention practices. Potentially indefinitely, but more realistically a few months to years. IP addresses are also one of the more difficult things to correlate to someone's identity, so don't worry about it too much.
I agree with all you said.
No doubt you get that 'best practice' was used in reference to how data is secured on the server (encryption at rest, in transit) and not to how users manage their passwords.
Two factor auth is helpful if your password is compromised.I do. I also acknowledge that TNA has had zero accountability to it's users concerning their data security practices, and that zero accountability breeds the shitstorm were all watching unfold right now.
If this attack occurred over any period of time, it would be trivial for an attacker to modify the authentication functions of the site, redirecting clear text usernames and passwords for collection.
"If you have any features you would like to see on our new site let us know and we will do our best to accommodate. Our aim is to build the best platform for our valued members. ".At least they haven't lost their sense of humor.
KitWalker1967
07-03-22, 14:40
Care to share a pic for those of us who don't want to sign up for Twitter?Here you go. It looks like some portions of the TNA email screenshots Scarlett posted were cut off a bit.
Joseph1955
07-04-22, 15:37
I wonder if the ladies will accept lower donations, now that they can't advertise, so less demand. Doubtful, but a boy can dream.All we know for sure is that the longer the primary marketplace for these women is gone, the more disruptive it will be. Definitely some temporary discounting from them who need to in order to keep up sales. But a lengthy absence will cause many to simply drift away and the out of town provides to go elsewhere. If there's a significant reduction in supply, prices may jump and services go down once TNA resumes.
The only way to depress prices when TNA comes back is if the hobbits don't return. The demand from us isn't going anywhere, but if we move on and the eventual return of TNA is met with silence from the clients, sellers will need to chase the reduced number of buyers with aggressive pricing and more open services.
But something tells me you're right. As we've all learned, supply chain disruptions will lead to inflation when the same amount of dollars are chasing fewer available providers.
All we know for sure is that the longer the primary marketplace for these women is gone, the more disruptive it will be. Definitely some temporary discounting from them who need to in order to keep up sales. But a lengthy absence will cause many to simply drift away and the out of town provides to go elsewhere. If there's a significant reduction in supply, prices may jump and services go down once TNA resumes.
The only way to depress prices when TNA comes back is if the hobbits don't return. The demand from us isn't going anywhere, but if we move on and the eventual return of TNA is met with silence from the clients, sellers will need to chase the reduced number of buyers with aggressive pricing and more open services.
But something tells me you're right. As we've all learned, supply chain disruptions will lead to inflation when the same amount of dollars are chasing fewer available providers.Pricing aside, just give me a damn GFE filter that actually works so I can ignore 80-90% of the ads that don't provide it or other means of transparency and visibility of services. I feel like a majority of providers bank on people impulsively pulling the trigger because it's annoying to find accurate information. Sometimes I think I've had to do more research in this hobby than anything I've done in a job.
SeattleGonzo
07-04-22, 16:25
Based off screenshots posted to Twitter.
https://twitter.com/ScarlettSynz/status/1543440739723403264?s=20&t=F61PKNUlmDR-r2PcowwM3AIt is a shame it is down. I wonder who would have the money and motivation to do such a thing.
Let me think.
It is a shame it is down. I wonder who would have the money and motivation to do such a thing.
Let me think.Who do you think it was? The Vatican? MAGA? Guy Fawkes? Honestone? Thanos? Seattle Gonzo?
KnoxNenters
07-05-22, 03:15
Who do you think it was? The Vatican? MAGA? Guy Fawkes? Honestone? Thanos? Seattle Gonzo?Obviously it was The Review Board, still holding a grudge, looking for new content.
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