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http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cas/1736088688.html
This is a recent cash n dash artist in the sterling/centreville/manassas area- she posts and responds to posts as long as she can find someone who is hosting. She grabs the cash and runs- her getaway car is a blue Honda.
Andret1001
05-23-10, 15:20
Not like the old days, but just as expensive. Service is better even in NOVA. They are charging FS rates and delivering a poor imitation of what you can get across the river
Not to be a jerk, but their poor service has been known for many years.
USED TO BE:
Second floor - GREAT!!!
Third floor - TERRIBLE!!!
Nowadays - I do not know.
JJ
Not to be a jerk, but their poor service has been known for many years.
Happy Hour
02-01-12, 11:06
Found Jane in EG hosting in the TC area at $$/hr and took the bait. Once inside, gave my donation and made small talk. As it turns out, small talk is all that's on the menu.
Beware.
HH
Bunker Buster
02-01-12, 21:23
Found Jane in EG hosting in the TC area at $$/hr and took the bait. Once inside, gave my donation and made small talk. As it turns out, small talk is all that's on the menu.
Beware.
HHPhone number, link to ad, photo? Were the photos real?
Just telling us you got ripped off by Jane doesn't help anyone, or hurt her.
I'm sorry you got burned, but did you do any research before showing up with $$ in hand? You've been here since 2008, but don't seem to have acquired any skills to show for your time. There's a lot of good info here for the taking, and plenty of people willing to help. If you apply yourself and invest some time and energy in the project, you should be able to have good experiences to write about.
Guitarman1
02-02-12, 08:14
Found Jane in EG hosting in the TC area at $$/hr and took the bait. Once inside, gave my donation and made small talk. As it turns out, small talk is all that's on the menu.
Beware.
HHPictures? Phone Number? These girls change locations and names all the time. Please post useful intel.
Happy Hour
02-03-12, 12:46
Pictures? Phone Number? These girls change locations and names all the time. Please post useful intel.Got it, thanks for the guidance. Her # is 717-XXX-1414.
Com on MAN WTF is XXX post the INFO.
Got it, thanks for the guidance. Her # is 717-XXX-1414.
Drunker Irish
02-03-12, 18:07
Com on MAN WTF is XXX post the INFO.Its not in the area or very old and out of date. You can search by prefix, suffix, without the four digits and nothing pops up.
My vote is bogus info. Surprise, surprise.
Bunker Buster
02-03-12, 19:23
Got it, thanks for the guidance. Her # is 717-XXX-1414.How do we Google or dial XXX?
If you put a little more time, effort, and care into both posting and doing homework before venturing out, you'll find that the rewards are worth the investment.
Tha X Facta
02-03-12, 20:08
Why yall keep yelling X?
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DI, AJ. . . .I'm at Happy Hour.
BB, please don't drop the Bomb! 'lmfao'
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X. . . .The unknown
Happy Hour
02-05-12, 15:14
How do we Google or dial XXX?
If you put a little more time, effort, and care into both posting and doing homework before venturing out, you'll find that the rewards are worth the investment.Gentlemen,
I believe the forum administrator edited my post and inserted "xxx" for a portion of the phone number I tried to provide to you. There's probably a restriction on posting too much information.
Cheers,
HH
Bunker Buster
02-05-12, 17:14
Gentlemen,
I believe the forum administrator edited my post and inserted "xxx" for a portion of the phone number I tried to provide to you. There's probably a restriction on posting too much information.
Cheers,
HHI have no idea why some admins take it on themselves to randomly redact public phone numbers. Then again, it may be the site software, which converts letters into words, and doesn't recognize many common writing forms.
I was looking for the ad on Amber who it was said was is in need of some help. In my search I came across a personal ad which stated that a curious young female was new to all this and looking for action. I replied to the ad and received three emails almost an hour apart asking why I didn't reply sooner. I replied and then received a quality, enticing photo of a gorgeous women holding a sign with my name on it. Then I received another photo showing titty and a sign with my name on it. I replied and was then given specific instructions of how to sign up. It first said that you must understand that the female had to protect herself so you needed to sign up for one of those datecheck subscriptions. I began to think, she said she was new to all this but knew all about datecheck. It all sounded fishy so I replied that it sounded like a scam and her photos were TGTBT. I stopped getting any more emails from her. Beware!
I am baffled and confused at times about this escort game. I often wonder what is considered their real goals and objectives in this line of work. Are they in business to make money selling their bodies or are they there to set up Johns and just piss guys off. This red-headed Puta from Lanham / Laurel / Landover tops the list of heartless and callous bitches I have had the displeasure of confronting.
I first make the call and end up texting because her voicemail is full. After several emails a time and place is agreed upon, that is until the last message which reads 'I have an emergency at my regular job and have to fill in for someone who didn't show'. WTF! So I accepted the cancellation and replied that I would try the next day, but earlier. About two hours before the scheduled meeting on the appointed day I started calling and texting, because first, the location was several miles away from my location, and I figured that I could possibly arrive and then not be able to get a Room # from her. Secondly, you can't use the cell phone while driving in Maryland, which means that once you commit to driving you will be driving for quite a while in the blind, so not being able to contact her I aborted in VA before the bridge. I finally got hold of her after 7 PM, and she tells me she was extremely busy and when she doesn't answer her phone or texts she is extremely, extremely busy. She said, 'You didn't lose anything, because I didn't respond to your calls' But I said that I could have been put out and asked 'Why didn't you just text me like you did last time to tell me the appointment was off. ' 'Oh, I was extremely busy so you have a nice day', and then the hang up. In many ways, after relooking I was probably better off aborting the mission when I did. Avoid this loser at all costs, especially if you live in VA.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/latincandy-sexy-thick-latina-ready-to-play-50-special-33
Sashimi if you add a phone # it gives us other ways to search this dead beat. At this point your link is no good, no name, no phone # Help us out here just a
"red-headed Puta" makes it hard. Just saying.
I am baffled and confused at times about this escort game. I often wonder what is considered their real goals and objectives in this line of work. Are they in business to make money selling their bodies or are they there to set up Johns and just piss guys off. This red-headed Puta from Lanham / Laurel / Landover tops the list of heartless and callous bitches I have had the displeasure of confronting.
I first make the call and end up texting because her voicemail is full. After several emails a time and place is agreed upon, that is until the last message which reads 'I have an emergency at my regular job and have to fill in for someone who didn't show'. WTF! So I accepted the cancellation and replied that I would try the next day, but earlier. About two hours before the scheduled meeting on the appointed day I started calling and texting, because first, the location was several miles away from my location, and I figured that I could possibly arrive and then not be able to get a Room # from her. Secondly, you can't use the cell phone while driving in Maryland, which means that once you commit to driving you will be driving for quite a while in the blind, so not being able to contact her I aborted in VA before the bridge. I finally got hold of her after 7 PM, and she tells me she was extremely busy and when she doesn't answer her phone or texts she is extremely, extremely busy. She said, 'You didn't lose anything, because I didn't respond to your calls' But I said that I could have been put out and asked 'Why didn't you just text me like you did last time to tell me the appointment was off. ' 'Oh, I was extremely busy so you have a nice day', and then the hang up. In many ways, after relooking I was probably better off aborting the mission when I did. Avoid this loser at all costs, especially if you live in VA.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/latincandy-sexy-thick-latina-ready-to-play-50-special-33/5011840
http://washingtondc.backpage.comFemaleEscorts/latincandy-sexy-thick-latina-ready-to-play-50-special-3
Sashimi if you add a phone # it gives us other ways to search this dead beat. At this point your link is no good, no name, no phone # Help us out here just a
"red-headed Puta" makes it hard. Just saying.I'm sorry about the URLS. Her name is Lela and she is at 443-983-1926.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/latincandy-sexy-thick-latina-ready-to-play-50-special-33/5011840
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/latincandy-come-play-with-me-50-special-sexy-thick-latina-33/3415456
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/ms-latincandy-50-special-come-play-with-me-33/1933789
I've come from VA to see Lela a couple of times and while she can be hard to reach she is definitely a quality provider and worth more than what she's charging. I wouldn't call her a dead beat, and there are a few SMs who would agree with me.
I am baffled and confused at times about this escort game. I often wonder what is considered their real goals and objectives in this line of work. Are they in business to make money selling their bodies or are they there to set up Johns and just piss guys off. This red-headed Puta from Lanham / Laurel / Landover tops the list of heartless and callous bitches I have had the displeasure of confronting.
I first make the call and end up texting because her voicemail is full. After several emails a time and place is agreed upon, that is until the last message which reads 'I have an emergency at my regular job and have to fill in for someone who didn't show'. WTF! So I accepted the cancellation and replied that I would try the next day, but earlier. About two hours before the scheduled meeting on the appointed day I started calling and texting, because first, the location was several miles away from my location, and I figured that I could possibly arrive and then not be able to get a Room # from her. Secondly, you can't use the cell phone while driving in Maryland, which means that once you commit to driving you will be driving for quite a while in the blind, so not being able to contact her I aborted in VA before the bridge. I finally got hold of her after 7 PM, and she tells me she was extremely busy and when she doesn't answer her phone or texts she is extremely, extremely busy. She said, 'You didn't lose anything, because I didn't respond to your calls' But I said that I could have been put out and asked 'Why didn't you just text me like you did last time to tell me the appointment was off. ' 'Oh, I was extremely busy so you have a nice day', and then the hang up. In many ways, after relooking I was probably better off aborting the mission when I did. Avoid this loser at all costs, especially if you live in VA.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/latincandy-sexy-thick-latina-ready-to-play-50-special-33
I've come from VA to see Lela a couple of times and while she can be hard to reach she is definitely a quality provider and worth more than what she's charging. I wouldn't call her a dead beat, and there are a few SMs who would agree with me.I choose to disagree with you. Quality has nothing to do with the impossible contact procedures (no voice mail, and she doesn't answer all texts) and her insensitive customer service techniques. She needs to become more attentive to what appointments she confirms, be ready to receive client phone inquiries and be aware that her importance may be less than the clients time and money. She may provide a great blow job, but to me it is not worth the preparation, hassle, stress and aggravation of a 15 minute session, no matter how cheap her prices are.
"Deadbeat" implies she gives shitty service, is a B & S, or anything else that constitutes what this thread is actually about, actual rip-offs. You didn't even see her, so how the fuck did she rip you off? Did you pay her in advance?
She is the girl in her pics, and as far as I know every monger here and at the oThER site that has seen her will vouch that her skills are better than most in the area. Her being pissy at you on the phone doesn't make her a deadbeat.
I choose to disagree with you. Quality has nothing to do with the impossible contact procedures (no voice mail, and she doesn't answer all texts) and her insensitive customer service techniques. She needs to become more attentive to what appointments she confirms, be ready to receive client phone inquiries and be aware that her importance may be less than the clients time and money. She may provide a great blow job, but to me it is not worth the preparation, hassle, stress and aggravation of a 15 minute session, no matter how cheap her prices are.
"Deadbeat" implies she gives shitty service, is a B & S, or anything else that constitutes what this thread is actually about, actual rip-offs. You didn't even see her, so how the fuck did she rip you off? Did you pay her in advance?
She is the girl in her pics, and as far as I know every monger here and at the oThER site that has seen her will vouch that her skills are better than most in the area. Her being pissy at you on the phone doesn't make her a deadbeat.Again, she is a fucking deadbeat because she doesn't provide the proper opportunity for service, like easy contact acessibility. My time is of value and I got ripped off on time, gas and other intangibles liike getting prepared, stress and aggravation (same as paying in advance). To me she is worst than a B & S, at least you can confront the B & S face to face, not with a phone hang up. If you still like to put up with all her crap and pissy attitude, then I think you can be happy with your choice. Enjoy.
Again, she is a fucking deadbeat because she doesn't provide the proper opportunity for service, like easy contact acessibility. My time is of value and I got ripped off on time, gas and other intangibles liike getting prepared, stress and aggravation (same as paying in advance). To me she is worst than a B & S, at least you can confront the B & S face to face, not with a phone hang up. If you still like to put up with all her crap and pissy attitude, then I think you can be happy with your choice. Enjoy.FWIW I saw her at one of Roger's parties. I found her to have a bad attitude with the guys, but a real matron type to the other girls. Her head game is good, but it's really rushed and businesslike. She is the type who would run a revolving door if she could.
FWIW I saw her at one of Roger's parties. I found her to have a bad attitude with the guys, but a real matron type to the other girls. Her head game is good, but it's really rushed and businesslike. She is the type who would run a revolving door if she could.
I know what you mean by bad attitude. I got a rash of shit from her when I complained that she is not meeting her binding committments. I may have figured why she acts matronly to the other girls. I think she is pimping them. A good example of why I say is is found in an ad for a girl in Southern Maryland who goes by the handle Chynadoll. The ad states that she is endorsed or supported by latincandy.
Again, she is a fucking deadbeat because she doesn't provide the proper opportunity for service, like easy contact acessibility. My time is of value and I got ripped off on time, gas and other intangibles liike getting prepared, stress and aggravation (same as paying in advance). To me she is worst than a B & S, at least you can confront the B & S face to face, not with a phone hang up. If you still like to put up with all her crap and pissy attitude, then I think you can be happy with your choice. Enjoy.I agree with Sashimi. A rip off can be lousy / no service, bait and switch, or anything else service related, but it can also be not answering the door, cancelled appointments at the last minute, or my personal favorite getting to the location and then being asked to wait in the parking lot for 30 minutes. It is a rip off either way.
Bunker Buster
04-25-12, 01:42
Full details here.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9224-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=1433390&viewfull=1#post1433390
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/im-and-i-need-your-help-23/7599434
202 701 0414
Bunker Buster
05-08-14, 22:53
Because it will get buried over time in the BP forum.
571-575-0864.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/young-and-attractive-20/14221969
http://eroticmugshots.com/nova-escorts/571-575-0864/?pid=14083794
Full report:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9224-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=2080623&viewfull=1#post2080623.
Bunker Buster
06-11-14, 01:11
Brother Cephlapod Love in DE has alerted us to a new scam, much like the mugshot extortion. A website called http://www.exposingjohns.com/ collects text messages sent by hobbyists, and posts them along with their name, picture, and phone number. Then, they offer to "investigate" the accuracy of the report for a fee ranging from $200 to $500, with nothing stopping them from declaring the report valid and keeping the money.
Reports can submitted by anyone.
This will eventually be shut down as an extortion racket, but until then, you must protect yourself. NEVER use your personal phone. Get a burner, or at a minimum, use a Google Voice number that you don't use for anything else.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?7280-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=2117372&viewfull=1#post2117372
Posted this on the DC board but it bears repeating here.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9306-Ripoff-Reports&p=2157344&viewfull=1#post2157344
Brother Cephlapod Love in DE has alerted us to a new scam, much like the mugshot extortion. A website called http://www.exposingjohns.com/ collects text messages sent by hobbyists, and posts them along with their name, picture, and phone number. Then, they offer to "investigate" the accuracy of the report for a fee ranging from $200 to $500, with nothing stopping them from declaring the report valid and keeping the money.
Reports can submitted by anyone.
This will eventually be shut down as an extortion racket, but until then, you must protect yourself. NEVER use your personal phone. Get a burner, or at a minimum, use a Google Voice number that you don't use for anything else.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?7280-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=2117372&viewfull=1#post2117372Bunker,
If you don't mind me asking, what's your favorite brand of burner phone? I use net 10, but I don't like how you always have to buy $25 units, I'm not quite that active in the hobby for something like that. In addition if you let your phone number expire you'll need to get a new SIM. GV and other app type numbers are also risky as they are still connected to your physical phone.
Bunker,
If you don't mind me asking, what's your favorite brand of burner phone? I use net 10, but I don't like how you always have to buy $25 units, I'm not quite that active in the hobby for something like that. In addition if you let your phone number expire you'll need to get a new SIM. GV and other app type numbers are also risky as they are still connected to your physical phone.I have a simple T-mobile phone from WalMart 19.88. It makes calls. It texts. Nothing else.
I have a simple T-mobile phone from WalMart 19.88. It makes calls. It texts. Nothing else.To address MGM's other concerns, what is the minimum purchase requirement for additional minutes ($10, $25, etc.) and what is the minimum activity level (# of minutes used per month, etc.) required to keep the phone number active?
Like a lot of things, the initial cost of the hardware (19.88 in this case) may be minimal but it's the cost of additional services / fees that can add up in a hurry.
Thanks for the info.
nite_runner
07-22-14, 16:19
For what its worth, I have an old GSM phone that I took to T-Mobile and got a plan that costs $100 for 1,000 minutes. The nice thing is that the minutes do not expire for 12 months and there is no monthly fee. I'll likely never use 1000 minutes, but it is the best option for me.
N_R.
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans
Bunker Buster
07-23-14, 16:21
Bunker,
If you don't mind me asking, what's your favorite brand of burner phone? I use net 10, but I don't like how you always have to buy $25 units, I'm not quite that active in the hobby for something like that. In addition if you let your phone number expire you'll need to get a new SIM. GV and other app type numbers are also risky as they are still connected to your physical phone.In the past, I've recommended Virgin. The phone is about $15, and they have a $30 monthly plan that gives 1,000 minutes and 1,000 texts. There's a $20 plan with 400 minutes, but no texting. You can buy packages where texts are 10 each; young girls text like crazy now, so it's easy to blow past 100 texts per month.
William Rva
08-01-14, 02:48
Trac fone is the cheapest phone I've found. Phones are $5-10 at supermarket, Target, Best Buy, etc. And include 60 days (10 min) to start.
Min airtime is $20 for 3 months. I find the 90 days expires before the minutes.
$10 phone (60 days) + $20 airtime (90 days) = $30 for 150 days (5 months).
I mainly use texts and the rare call. Email works in theory but I'd say it's not reliable (may take 2 days). For a burner phone, I don't need a smart phone.
This is nominally 60 min that expires in 90 days, but.
* These phones come with double or triple minutes.
* There are bonus codes on the internet for more free time, so the $20 buys at least 150 minutes.
Texts are 1/3 minute, maybe. 50 to. 70 minutes with attachments. Phone calls to set appointments don't run more than 1-2 minutes.
For $25-30, I can send / receive all the texts and calls I need for 1-2 appointments per week; you can keep your number for $7/ month.
For any burner phone, I'd set it to silent, with a real ring for any one you actually expect to call. The phone seems to have at least 3 incoming calls per week, computerized sales calls with the occasional wrong number or spam texts from the small number I've answered. I don't want it ringing at odd hours as a nuisance; if you have to hid the phone this is even more important.
Bunker Buster
08-01-14, 23:46
Trac fone is the cheapest phone I've found. Phones are $5-10 at supermarket, Target, Best Buy, etc. And include 60 days (10 min) to start.
Min airtime is $20 for 3 months. I find the 90 days expires before the minutes.
$10 phone (60 days) + $20 airtime (90 days) = $30 for 150 days (5 months).
I mainly use texts and the rare call. Email works in theory but I'd say it's not reliable (may take 2 days). For a burner phone, I don't need a smart phone.
This is nominally 60 min that expires in 90 days, but.
* These phones come with double or triple minutes.
* There are bonus codes on the internet for more free time, so the $20 buys at least 150 minutes.
Texts are 1/3 minute, maybe. 50 to. 70 minutes with attachments. Phone calls to set appointments don't run more than 1-2 minutes.
For $25-30, I can send / receive all the texts and calls I need for 1-2 appointments per week; you can keep your number for $7/ month.
For any burner phone, I'd set it to silent, with a real ring for any one you actually expect to call. The phone seems to have at least 3 incoming calls per week, computerized sales calls with the occasional wrong number or spam texts from the small number I've answered. I don't want it ringing at odd hours as a nuisance; if you have to hid the phone this is even more important.What's the cost for buying more minutes once the original batch expires? I do a fair amount of shopping around, and screen girls based on their phone manner and personality. I'd probably blow through those minutes within 4-6 weeks, so the time staying valid for 5 months doesn't mean much to me.
Vamassage Fan
08-02-14, 02:35
For what its worth, I have an old GSM phone that I took to T-Mobile and got a plan that costs $100 for 1,000 minutes. The nice thing is that the minutes do not expire for 12 months and there is no monthly fee. I'll likely never use 1000 minutes, but it is the best option for me.
N_R.
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plansThere is an App for IPhone (probably google too) called Burner that let's you get custom new numbers at will for reasonable cost. The ability to get or change numbers is handy when dealing with the new or unknown.
What's the cost for buying more minutes once the original batch expires? I do a fair amount of shopping around, and screen girls based on their phone manner and personality. I'd probably blow through those minutes within 4-6 weeks, so the time staying valid for 5 months doesn't mean much to me.I usually buy the 60 minute refills, because they're cheap (25 bucks) and my LG phone always sends texts with codes to double the minutes. So basically 120 minutes for 25 bucks. You can also buy in 120 minutes and 240 increments for refills, and get the same double minute deal.
William Rva
08-02-14, 15:13
What's the cost for buying more minutes once the original batch expires? I do a fair amount of shopping around, and screen girls based on their phone manner and personality. I'd probably blow through those minutes within 4-6 weeks, so the time staying valid for 5 months doesn't mean much to me.https://www.tracfone.com/direct/Purchase?payGo=true&app=TRACFONE&lang=en
If you're using 150 minutes in a month, it's probably worthwhile for you to get the 400 minute /1 year card for $100. Tracfone's site is currently offering a 250 minute bous, so for $100 you'd get 1050-1450 minutes (depending on whether your additional $10 buys a phone with double or triple minutes) - sounds like this should give you anywhere from 9-12 months for $110 total.
As noted on the site, there are also 90 day cards for $30-$80, and some web specials with 1500 minutes /1 year.
I haven't needed to figure out how to use the web specials without giving a real credit card (defeats the anonymity of a burner), but I'd be curious if anyone else has done this. The prepaid / green dot cards in the drug stores talk about registration etc. - is this easy to do without real personal details?
Grafenberg
08-03-14, 00:18
Report from Charlottesville http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2700-Charlottesville&p=2156565&viewfull=1#post2156565 on the following provider http://escortphonesearch.com/954-661-5609/.
She posted on BP she was in Fredericksburg passing through.
Harley Dude 29
08-03-14, 09:50
I use the preloaded cards all the time. When you register, you can put in anything you want for name, address, etc. Just remember what you put down in case you need to confirm. It works for me every time. Good luck.
https://www.tracfone.com/direct/Purchase?payGo=true&app=TRACFONE&lang=en
If you're using 150 minutes in a month, it's probably worthwhile for you to get the 400 minute /1 year card for $100. Tracfone's site is currently offering a 250 minute bous, so for $100 you'd get 1050-1450 minutes (depending on whether your additional $10 buys a phone with double or triple minutes) - sounds like this should give you anywhere from 9-12 months for $110 total.
As noted on the site, there are also 90 day cards for $30-$80, and some web specials with 1500 minutes /1 year.
I haven't needed to figure out how to use the web specials without giving a real credit card (defeats the anonymity of a burner), but I'd be curious if anyone else has done this. The prepaid / green dot cards in the drug stores talk about registration etc. - is this easy to do without real personal details?
I would personally recommend regularly changing out your phone so I am not a proponent of getting a huge amount of minutes for multiple months or even a year. Verizon has a prepaid that is $9. 99 at most places and gives you 40 minutes and does not require any on-line registration. That is enough time to set up a handful of dates if needed. I then discard the phone once used up. I just figure (and maybe being overly cautious) that it is not wise to have the same number show up on a whole bunch of providers phones, especially since some of these providers may be involved in other illegal activity that might cause greater scrutiny.
Bunker Buster
08-03-14, 20:24
I usually buy the 60 minute refills, because they're cheap (25 bucks) and my LG phone always sends texts with codes to double the minutes. So basically 120 minutes for 25 bucks. You can also buy in 120 minutes and 240 increments for refills, and get the same double minute deal.120 minutes for $25 (Trac) vs. 1,000 minutes and 1,000 texts for $30 (Virgin).
Yes, the minutes expire every month, but I don't worry about my minutes expiring when it takes 40 texts to set something up and make it happen.
Maybe if you only make a few calls per month, but when I'm shopping around and screening girls, the minutes and especially texts can burn by.
120 minutes for $25 (Trac) vs. 1,000 minutes and 1,000 texts for $30 (Virgin).
Yes, the minutes expire every month, but I don't worry about my minutes expiring when it takes 40 texts to set something up and make it happen.
Maybe if you only make a few calls per month, but when I'm shopping around and screening girls, the minutes and especially texts can burn by.I don't use my batphone that often just in spurts and the tracfone minutes last for something like 5 months. The virgin deal is obviously superior if you're a consistent and savvy mongerer. Dandy dons suggestion is also very good for all the reasons he stated. If you get the urge just get the phone for ten and use the minutes to find your flavor.
William Rva
08-27-14, 17:26
I use the preloaded cards all the time. When you register, you can put in anything you want for name, address, etc. Just remember what you put down in case you need to confirm. It works for me every time. Good luck.Thanks for confirming this. It seemed likely. I can see times when they might be useful.
There other cheaper options available. Like simple mobile (on Tmobile) or H2 O (AT&T). For $40 you get unlimited data, call and text there's plan for $25 unlimited call and text. But needs unlocked phone or any Tmobile phone can be used with Simple and any AT&T phone with H2 O.
120 minutes for $25 (Trac) vs. 1,000 minutes and 1,000 texts for $30 (Virgin).
Yes, the minutes expire every month, but I don't worry about my minutes expiring when it takes 40 texts to set something up and make it happen.
Maybe if you only make a few calls per month, but when I'm shopping around and screening girls, the minutes and especially texts can burn by.
A 60 min tracfone card cost $20. I just bought a phone that gives me triple minutes for life; that comes to 180 min that is good for 90 days for $20. If you reload before the 90 days, you roll-over any remaining minutes.
There other cheaper options available. Like simple mobile (on Tmobile) or H2 O (AT&T). For $40 you get unlimited data, call and text there's plan for $25 unlimited call and text. But needs unlocked phone or any Tmobile phone can be used with Simple and any AT&T phone with H2 O.
This is Cherrelle; an escort in woodbridge. She scammed / ripped me off for a significant amount of money. She plays the good escort until she wins some trust and then rips you off 366056366055.
She met me in a hotel and said she will spent the night. Left after taking the money. Please do you self a favor and never see her. 366651.
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WhiteLake830
02-24-15, 15:18
A 60 min tracfone card cost $20. I just bought a phone that gives me triple minutes for life; that comes to 180 min that is good for 90 days for $20. If you reload before the 90 days, you roll-over any remaining minutes.I agree but the drawback is this, the lower models work well in metro areas but drop in and out or off just beyond the burbs. Otherwise, good burn phone.
She met me in a hotel and said she will spent the night. Left after taking the money. Please do you self a favor and never see her. 366651.If you're a newbie to the hobby, not sure what possessed you to splurge on 1 K for an overnight visit with a provider (I'm assuming) you'd never seen before. IMHO, the best strategy is to stick with well-reviewed providers and start off with hh or shorter sessions just to see how things go. If the session goes well, you can often upgrade to a longer time. And even if the provider has another appt scheduled, at least you know she's someone you want to see again.
It's also unfortunate, but true, that some providers have a substance abuse problem and flashing 1 K in cash under their nose is not a great idea. So even if she's not a blatant ripoff artist, it may just have been a temptation that was too hard to turn down.
Any way you slice it, it was an expensive lesson.
She met me in a hotel and said she will spent the night. Left after taking the money. Please do you self a favor and never see her. 366651.This is a girl who has 60 dollar specials? And you give her a thousand dollars?
She met me in a hotel and said she will spent the night. Left after taking the money. Please do you self a favor and never see her. 366651.Sounds fishy to me, simply because this is your first post. Sounds like a pimp, manager, john, or some other provider trying to badmouth this girl. Not that this girl is a prize or anything.
I'm pretty sure that she made off with "somebody's" money. That, or she went to work for another pimp. I hope she ran away and went home to her parents.
I just find it funny that people follow this board (and therefore know it exists), but never think to write a post until something "bad" happens.
The dead giveaway is that fake accounts of events always embellish things a little too much. $1 K for an overnight with an average-looking BP girl with no reviews? Ummm, no.
This is a girl who has 60 dollar specials? And you give her a thousand dollars?It was suppose to be for all night.
Guitarman1
03-03-15, 17:10
PaoloDe your story seems strange to me. I don't think anyone new would drop that kind of coin first time out. I am like 80% sure I have seen this girl for a quickie. Even if she did talk you into a high rate like that, which shows you are a newbie, she is more likely to play the "oh no that is illegal" game.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/your-girl-next-door-classy-vip-all-natural-beautiful-brunette-bombshell-dont-miss-out/18531436
This is the post and this the pics below is who actually shows up; the whole ordeal felt weird; requesting photo I'd, pic of mail with address etc. The bottom line and I should have smelled it out earlier was she just showed up and asked for the money and basically wanted to sit on the couch and talk. Kept talking on the phone to someone-- she did not leave with the 240; that was never going to happen (said she was GFE) but I thought any out there that look for outcalls should be aware. She posted just recently again.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/your-girl-next-door-classy-vip-all-natural-beautiful-brunette-bombshell-dont-miss-out/18531436
This is the post and this the pics below is who actually shows up; the whole ordeal felt weird; requesting photo I'd, pic of mail with address etc. The bottom line and I should have smelled it out earlier was she just showed up and asked for the money and basically wanted to sit on the couch and talk. Kept talking on the phone to someone-- she did not leave with the 240; that was never going to happen (said she was GFE) but I thought any out there that look for outcalls should be aware. She posted just recently again.716XXX6934.
Guitarman1
10-30-15, 16:36
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/your-girl-next-door-classy-vip-all-natural-beautiful-brunette-bombshell-dont-miss-out/18531436
This is the post and this the pics below is who actually shows up; the whole ordeal felt weird; requesting photo I'd, pic of mail with address etc. The bottom line and I should have smelled it out earlier was she just showed up and asked for the money and basically wanted to sit on the couch and talk. Kept talking on the phone to someone-- she did not leave with the 240; that was never going to happen (said she was GFE) but I thought any out there that look for outcalls should be aware. She posted just recently again.Based on this post I'm going to assume that you are new to the hobby. First never give any provider any personal information. That includes any information about yourself or where you live. Many of these girls will not hesitate to attempt blackmailing you, setting you up for robbery, or using your personal information for any other nefarious purposes.
That brings me to the next point. You did not say if the outcome was at your home or at a hotel. You should never do an outcall at your home. Providers have actually scouted peoples places out then later sent their pimp / boyfriend to rob the place. Then of course you have the reasons I mentioned above. I have only had one provider come to my home. She is someone that I have seen many times over a number of years and have even seen her at her home.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/your-girl-next-door-classy-vip-all-natural-beautiful-brunette-bombshell-dont-miss-out/18531436
This is the post and this the pics below is who actually shows up; the whole ordeal felt weird; requesting photo I'd, pic of mail with address etc. The bottom line and I should have smelled it out earlier was she just showed up and asked for the money and basically wanted to sit on the couch and talk. Kept talking on the phone to someone-- she did not leave with the 240; that was never going to happen (said she was GFE) but I thought any out there that look for outcalls should be aware. She posted just recently again.Trewaller, good job in not letting her leave with the $240. I cannot tell you how many times I have heard about these girls pulling this scam. The girls come to your door and once they are inside, they want the money immediately. Once the girls collect the money, they say that paying for sex is illegal. It is their hope that the man gets mad and tells them to leave. Usually the man does not want the trouble with her pimp or the law.
That is not the case with me. When I order outcall I have a few options to use. First, when she comes into the room and demands the money, I show her the money and count it out for her, but I do NOT give her the money. I tell her she receives half the money when her clothes are off and she is naked in the bed. If she is pulling a scam and have no intention of doing anything with you, she will star panicking and start to call someone on her phone. If she does that, then ask her to leave immediately. Rush her out the dor if you have to because she is calling her pimp. If the pimp knocks on the door, call security and say that some crazed man and woman is knocking on your door and you do not know who they are. Most pimps and their girls do not want to be arrested because they usually have warrants. Good luck on your next outcall.
BTW, I have been known to cut the money in half and offering it to her, and then offering the other half of the money with tape when we are finished doing business.
Propilot-Always check your six.
716XXX6934.You've gotten some advice from Propilot and Guitarman1 and, since the topic of outcall is one that comes up on a recurring basis, you should do a search of the forum to read what's been posted before.
But just off the top of my head, here are some additional points to consider. Whether the outcall is to your home or to a hotel, you are at a disadvantage because you don't have the option of leaving. That means the provider and her pimp can stand at (or in) your doorway and make a loud scene. If you're at home that will draw unwanted attention from your neighbors. If you're in a hotel, that will draw attention (maybe wanted, maybe unwanted) from hotel security. Propilot gives you some strategies for managing the crisis but IMHO the best strategy is not to get yourself in that situation in the first place. It's important to remember that the scammers do this for a living and it's highly likely they have more experience dealing with these situations than you do. They may also have counter-strategies designed to shift the blame to you (he called me for a massage and then asked for sex) and of even more concern is whether the girl or her pimp have pepper spray, tasers, or something even more serious. I don't know you, and you may be a total bad-ass, but is the possibility of an escalation really something you want to deal with (especially if it's avoidable)?
If you're in a hotel and the girl and her pimp make a scene, it's very possible you may be asked to leave by security because they may view you as being partially responsible. This is their hotel and there's no "guilty" or "not guilty" but just a determination that you're a customer they don't want in their establishment. This can be a little awkward to explain if you're on a business trip. If they don't ask you to leave, the girl and her pimp now know where you're staying and they can watch to see when you leave and what car you're driving.
If you're at home and things go bad then, if you call the police to get rid of them, you'll have to give some kind of an explanation to LE. Even if the girl and her pimp leave before LE arrives, you'll still be asked about the situation. You can certainly make up a story about how you have no idea why these people showed up at your door but if you have nosy neighbors they may talk to LE on their own. Another note about neighbors is that they're often contacted if you have any kind of job that requires a security clearance. If one of them talks about the time a girl stood at your door yelling about wanting her money, that might be difficult to explain to your background investigator. And if it's a bad thing for the pimp and his girl to know where your hotel room is, how much worse is it for them to know where you live?
The bottom line is that outcall is not a great idea unless it's with a well-reviewed provider with whom (preferably) you've had enough incall sessions to have developed a level of comfort and trust.
Of course this is an adult hobby and everyone is entitled take the level of risk with which they're comfortable but to schedule an outcall visit with an unknown provider is at the high level of the risk-spectrum, IMHO. And, as much as you may come up with strategies and contingency plans, there are a lot of variables involved and that means there will always be the possibility for the situation to develop in a way you didn't expect. So my advice is that it's better not to go down that road if you have better alternatives.
You've gotten some advice from Propilot and Guitarman1 and, since the topic of outcall is one that comes up on a recurring basis, you should do a search of the forum to read what's been posted before.
But just off the top of my head, here are some additional points to consider. Whether the outcall is to your home or to a hotel, you are at a disadvantage because you don't have the option of leaving. That means the provider and her pimp can stand at (or in) your doorway and make a loud scene. If you're at home that will draw unwanted attention from your neighbors. If you're in a hotel, that will draw attention (maybe wanted, maybe unwanted) from hotel security. Propilot gives you some strategies for managing the crisis but IMHO the best strategy is not to get yourself in that situation in the first place. It's important to remember that the scammers do this for a living and it's highly likely they have more experience dealing with these situations than you do. They may also have counter-strategies designed to shift the blame to you (he called me for a massage and then asked for sex) and of even more concern is whether the girl or her pimp have pepper spray, tasers, or something even more serious. I don't know you, and you may be a total bad-ass, but is the possibility of an escalation really something you want to deal with (especially if it's avoidable)?
If you're in a hotel and the girl and her pimp make a scene, it's very possible you may be asked to leave by security because they may view you as being partially responsible. This is their hotel and there's no "guilty" or "not guilty" but just a determination that you're a customer they don't want in their establishment. This can be a little awkward to explain if you're on a business trip. If they don't ask you to leave, the girl and her pimp now know where you're staying and they can watch to see when you leave and what car you're driving.
If you're at home and things go bad then, if you call the police to get rid of them, you'll have to give some kind of an explanation to LE. Even if the girl and her pimp leave before LE arrives, you'll still be asked about the situation. You can certainly make up a story about how you have no idea why these people showed up at your door but if you have nosy neighbors they may talk to LE on their own. Another note about neighbors is that they're often contacted if you have any kind of job that requires a security clearance. If one of them talks about the time a girl stood at your door yelling about wanting her money, that might be difficult to explain to your background investigator. And if it's a bad thing for the pimp and his girl to know where your hotel room is, how much worse is it for them to know where you live?
The bottom line is that outcall is not a great idea unless it's with a well-reviewed provider with whom (preferably) you've had enough incall sessions to have developed a level of comfort and trust.
Of course this is an adult hobby and everyone is entitled take the level of risk with which they're comfortable but to schedule an outcall visit with an unknown provider is at the high level of the risk-spectrum, IMHO. And, as much as you may come up with strategies and contingency plans, there are a lot of variables involved and that means there will always be the possibility for the situation to develop in a way you didn't expect. So my advice is that it's better not to go down that road if you have better alternatives.Ok so I PM'd a couple of people so I will put it out there so I can cover a global spectrum. All of my current UTR's are outcalls, that is how I met them and because I had so much success I guess like I told one other person I probably had rose colored glasses on and really did not expect an issue although its always in the back of your mind but you are hoping the event will be good. Secondly I live in a gated building so she has to be let in the front door and it gives me an opportunity to assess the situation and I am certainly not letting her pimp (and for the record I have never seen a pimp with any girl I've seen) enter the building. I am two weeks from retiring so I am not worried about my background checks any longer and I am certainly not worried about what my neighbors think or say about me; I honestly don't have to answer to anyone so it makes no difference to me what people say about me. As far as the police go; I was calling the police which is what made her decide to return my money (I offered her expense money to make it fair) and I don't know how that would have played out but I have learned that the best defense is an offense so I was willing to explain to LEO the situation and that would have meant she would have needed to provide valid I'd etc and I am sure she did not want to do that (maybe there was a warrant out on her. Who knows) and I always print a copy of the BP post to refer to which BTW had a fake pic of a really hot naked girl so after the dust settled I am pretty sure I handled it correctly. I don't need to read 20 pages of past conversations on this website discussing outcalls; I have done more than my share and have only had a couple of instances of which I promptly reported to this site so nobody else would get burned by the same girl (s). As far as them being unknown providers. Well that is how I found all of my UTR's they were not reviewed because they were not regular providers; just looking for that one guy they could depend on and establish a trusting relationship with. So I will take all that I have reaped and balance it against the situations that were clearly with bad intent and I will live with them. All I did was report that the girl was a scam and anyone that did outcalls should be aware and I will continue to do so should it occur again; and no I am not a badass but I can surely handle a situation in my own home with a girl who chooses to use the industry that we like to enjoy and turn it into a method to grab some easy cash while hoping that the guy has no backbone and won't control the situation. I realize that everybody here is really just showing that they don't want someone to get harmed in this hobby but I am fine and like I told someone else I will throw away the rose colored glasses and do more due diligence.
Ok so I PM'd a couple of people so I will put it out there so I can cover a global spectrum. All of my current UTR's are outcalls, that is how I met them and because I had so much success I guess like I told one other person I probably had rose colored glasses on and really did not expect an issue although its always in the back of your mind but you are hoping the event will be good. Secondly I live in a gated building so she has to be let in the front door and it gives me an opportunity to assess the situation and I am certainly not letting her pimp (and for the record I have never seen a pimp with any girl I've seen) enter the building. I am two weeks from retiring so I am not worried about my background checks any longer and I am certainly not worried about what my neighbors think or say about me; I honestly don't have to answer to anyone so it makes no difference to me what people say about me. As far as the police go; I was calling the police which is what made her decide to return my money (I offered her expense money to make it fair) and I don't know how that would have played out but I have learned that the best defense is an offense so I was willing to explain to LEO the situation and that would have meant she would have needed to provide valid I'd etc and I am sure she did not want to do that (maybe there was a warrant out on her. Who knows) and I always print a copy of the BP post to refer to which BTW had a fake pic of a really hot naked girl so after the dust settled I am pretty sure I handled it correctly. I don't need to read 20 pages of past conversations on this website discussing outcalls; I have done more than my share and have only had a couple of instances of which I promptly reported to this site so nobody else would get burned by the same girl (s). As far as them being unknown providers. Well that is how I found all of my UTR's they were not reviewed because they were not regular providers; just looking for that one guy they could depend on and establish a trusting relationship with. So I will take all that I have reaped and balance it against the situations that were clearly with bad intent and I will live with them. All I did was report that the girl was a scam and anyone that did outcalls should be aware and I will continue to do so should it occur again; and no I am not a badass but I can surely handle a situation in my own home with a girl who chooses to use the industry that we like to enjoy and turn it into a method to grab some easy cash while hoping that the guy has no backbone and won't control the situation. I realize that everybody here is really just showing that they don't want someone to get harmed in this hobby but I am fine and like I told someone else I will throw away the rose colored glasses and do more due diligence.And you're certainly entitled to roll them any way you see fit. And you've obviously had some success rolling them the way you've been doing (with some exceptions, as you've noted) but for the benefit of others who may be thinking about outcall and may not have your exceptional circumstances and success, allow me to make some additional observations.
IMHO, UTRs are a very different type of provider and come with their own special set of rules. BP pro scammers, OTOH, do this for a living and are often quite good at it. Even with your special circumstances and precautions, dealing with such scammers involves a level of risk and unpredictable variables that I think it's safe to say most hobbyists would prefer to avoid.
Congratulations on your upcoming retirement but may I point out that, unless your plan is to never work again or to only take Walmart greeter-type jobs, you'll almost certainly be asked to undergo a criminal background check for future employment. And LE databases report out the names of complainants as well as others involved in any incident involving LE response. So, depending on the specific background process, you may be asked to offer an explanation of the incident which caused you to call LE. While this may not be a problem or concern for you, personally, it's a consideration that other forum members may want to take into account.
With all due respect, everyone is accountable to someone else to some degree. And if you live in a gated building (rent or own) that means there is a management or HOA body to which all residents have some accountability. As someone who sits on an HOA board, many communities have specific clauses in their CC&Rs regarding the use of any unit for illegal activity, and participation in the hobby in any capacity certainly qualifies. I have no idea about the specifics of your community but it's generally not a good thing when a resident gets "on the radar" (even if it's only at the level of suspicion without proof) of that managing body. For tenants, that can be cause for being asked to vacate. For owners, things are more involved but it's still a complication best avoided.
Of course, all scam reports are welcome so kudos to you for doing so but it's also important to note that new scam ads show up all the time, and existing scammers change their names / pics / numbers often, so a report about one individual girl may be of limited value. As I said, your personal circumstances appear to be exceptional so this post is primarily for those who are still employed and may actually give a f*ck about what their employer and neighbors think.
And, while I understand the position that "the best defense is a good offense" I also can't help but observe that sometimes the best defense is avoiding problems in the first place. I've personally always found that RTFF has a pretty favorable reward-risk ratio, especially when you're able to narrow down your searches by specific topic. So, for the benefit of others who might want to do such research, I would simply observe that the homework involved would probably not be as much as 20 pages and would probably take about the same amount of time as it would to print out an individual provider's ad.
Bunker Buster
11-02-15, 17:32
And you're certainly entitled to roll them any way you see fit. And you've obviously had some success rolling them the way you've been doing (with some exceptions, as you've noted) but for the benefit of others who may be thinking about outcall and may not have your exceptional circumstances and success, allow me to make some additional observations.
IMHO, UTRs are a very different type of provider and come with their own special set of rules. BP pro scammers, OTOH, do this for a living and are often quite good at it. Even with your special circumstances and precautions, dealing with such scammers involves a level of risk and unpredictable variables that I think it's safe to say most hobbyists would prefer to avoid.
I have the girl meet me at a nearby neutral site (McD's, parking lot, street parking) where I can see whether they're driving themselves, or have a driver. They get into my car, and I take them back to my place, we hang out, then I drive them back to their car / pickup spot. Between the circuitous route and layered security, I'm confident that nothing's coming back on me. It would take several visits to figure out exactly where I am, and I only repeat with girls I decide are trustworthy, and are either independent, or are really getting a ride from a friend, not a pimp.
Everyone has to assess his own situation; living in a SFH with no gate and nosy neighbors creates vulnerabilities to account for.
CamachoFurPrez
06-25-16, 22:46
I have the girl meet me at a nearby neutral site (McD's, parking lot, street parking) where I can see whether they're driving themselves, or have a driver. They get into my car, and I take them back to my place, we hang out, then I drive them back to their car / pickup spot. Between the circuitous route and layered security, I'm confident that nothing's coming back on me. It would take several visits to figure out exactly where I am, and I only repeat with girls I decide are trustworthy, and are either independent, or are really getting a ride from a friend, not a pimp.
Everyone has to assess his own situation; living in a SFH with no gate and nosy neighbors creates vulnerabilities to account for.It only takes a few swipes on a smart phone to drop a pin on Google Maps and less to take a photo with a geo tag. Just say'and.
SidePocket
07-01-16, 15:28
It only takes a few swipes on a smart phone to drop a pin on Google Maps and less to take a photo with a geo tag. Just say'and.Ahhh, good point. And if she opens Google Maps on her phone it will show her current location, then she can attach the current location to a contact in her phone (you), then she can share that contact with someone and they could be at your door while you're blissfully in mid session.
This chick did a dash with my money once I gave it to her.
Looked nothing like the pics and then texted that she had to leave because her sister was in the hospital.
Only out $80 but let's try to put her out of business!
http://www.escortphonelookup.com/571-365-1279/
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Add a comment "100% SCAM".
This chick did a dash with my money once I gave it to her.
Looked nothing like the pics and then texted that she had to leave because her sister was in the hospital.
Only out $80 but let's try to put her out of business!
http://www.escortphonelookup.com/571-365-1279/
http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/come-get-pampered/36245493
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Add a comment "100% SCAM".Thanks Yoyo, you saved my ass just in the nick of time.
LuckyDogs1234
01-16-18, 16:13
I am a SM under a different name with almost 300 posts. Trying to protect myself.
Met her on a sugar daddy website. We talked in Text and everything seemed safe. She even sent me nudes that were of her.
When we met, I gave her the donation and she informed me she was a Loundon County undercover cop.
To make a long story short, she kep the $4 donation and told me I was free to go. I was going to call her out, but just wanted to get out of there.
Stay away, I am 95% positive she is not a cop, but can never be too careful. I lost a lot of cash, but better than being in jail.
I am a SM under a different name with almost 300 posts. Trying to protect myself.
Met her on a sugar daddy website. We talked in Text and everything seemed safe. She even sent me nudes that were of her.
When we met, I gave her the donation and she informed me she was a Loundon County undercover cop.
To make a long story short, she kep the $4 donation and told me I was free to go. I was going to call her out, but just wanted to get out of there.
Stay away, I am 95% positive she is not a cop, but can never be too careful. I lost a lot of cash, but better than being in jail.This is a popular scam that goes both ways. There have been johns pulling this on prostitutes and vice visa. She juSt chose to use a sugar daddy / baby site as her advertising platform.
Never front the cash. The scammers are everywhere and getting more bold and sophisticated.
I was in your area this past week and had to work hard to have a good time. I guess the closer to DC you get, the more corrupt things get.
RustyMuffler
01-18-18, 15:41
Hey LD,
Sorry you got played like that.
First off, a couple of points:
If she really was a cop she would have never sent you any nude photos of herself! They might send you nude pics, but not of themselves.
More importantly, if she was a cop she would have never let you leave like that. Their stings are designed to reel in as many of us as possible. I have not known of any sting operations where they just let people walk.
Conclusion:
That is not to say you were wrong to just cut your losses and bail. Who knows how the situation would have gone if you demanded your money back. And no matter what she did or said next you could not trust her enough to "get comfortable" if she wanted to keep the money and go through with providing you a service.
So you did exactly what I would have done. But it sucks to get ripped off!
Better luck next time.
I am a SM under a different name with almost 300 posts. Trying to protect myself.
Met her on a sugar daddy website. We talked in Text and everything seemed safe. She even sent me nudes that were of her.
When we met, I gave her the donation and she informed me she was a Loundon County undercover cop.
To make a long story short, she kep the $4 donation and told me I was free to go. I was going to call her out, but just wanted to get out of there.
Stay away, I am 95% positive she is not a cop, but can never be too careful. I lost a lot of cash, but better than being in jail.
Thanks Yoyo, you saved my ass just in the nick of time.Experienced similar situation. Big scam.
So I answered an add on backpage for a massage. Had one of the wixsite webpages with all the details and donations for a massage.
Ginger4 uu. wixsite.com/ pure-relaxation.
Set up an appointment and was directed to a shopping center in Fairfax and told to text when I arrive. So far so good. Nothing out of the ordinary here. Then when I text that I arrived I'm told "first time client must buy a Visa Vanilla gift debit card with the hour fee on it. " No cash accepted. After the first visit then you can pay however you want.
I refused. I said you should have told me this BEFORE I drove down here. They responded and said it's all on their website and I should have known. I went home and read every page on the website TWICE. Nothing about Visa gift cards.
Is this some kind of scam? I just moved here from LA and I have never seen anything like this. My gut said no way so I bailed out. I texted back and said your website says nothing about gift cards. They responded back and said I missed out on a surprise free 4 hand session. Yeah. Right.
Does anyone have any ideas on if this is a scam?
Member #5678
02-28-18, 03:12
There was a review on another site about someone having their cash stolen by two people. So, you might have gotten 4 hands, but not the massaging kind.
So I answered an add on backpage for a massage. Had one of the wixsite webpages with all the details and donations for a massage.
Ginger4 uu. wixsite.com/ pure-relaxation.
Set up an appointment and was directed to a shopping center in Fairfax and told to text when I arrive. So far so good. Nothing out of the ordinary here. Then when I text that I arrived I'm told "first time client must buy a Visa Vanilla gift debit card with the hour fee on it. " No cash accepted. After the first visit then you can pay however you want.
I refused. I said you should have told me this BEFORE I drove down here. They responded and said it's all on their website and I should have known. I went home and read every page on the website TWICE. Nothing about Visa gift cards.
Is this some kind of scam? I just moved here from LA and I have never seen anything like this. My gut said no way so I bailed out. I texted back and said your website says nothing about gift cards. They responded back and said I missed out on a surprise free 4 hand session. Yeah. Right.
Does anyone have any ideas on if this is a scam?
So I answered an add on backpage for a massage. Had one of the wixsite webpages with all the details and donations for a massage.
Ginger4 uu. wixsite.com/ pure-relaxation.
Set up an appointment and was directed to a shopping center in Fairfax and told to text when I arrive. So far so good. Nothing out of the ordinary here. Then when I text that I arrived I'm told "first time client must buy a Visa Vanilla gift debit card with the hour fee on it. " No cash accepted. After the first visit then you can pay however you want.
I refused. I said you should have told me this BEFORE I drove down here. They responded and said it's all on their website and I should have known. I went home and read every page on the website TWICE. Nothing about Visa gift cards.
Is this some kind of scam? I just moved here from LA and I have never seen anything like this. My gut said no way so I bailed out. I texted back and said your website says nothing about gift cards. They responded back and said I missed out on a surprise free 4 hand session. Yeah. Right.
Does anyone have any ideas on if this is a scam?Haven't seen her but you're right that the website says nothing about needing to buy a gift card.
https://ginger4uu.wixsite.com/pure-relaxation
And neither does her BP ad.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/extremely-relaxing-what-you-need-and-desire-more-of-what-of-want-on-website/46083892
But most gift card scams (at least the ones I've read about) involve the scammer asking, via phone or email, for the codes or numbers on the back of the card. By doing that they can use the value of the card to make purchases on the web without ever having to take possession of the physical card.
From your description it sounds like you were asked to buy the card and bring it to the session. So, as long as you retain possession of it, and don't give out any numbers or codes, handing her the card at the beginning of the session would be the same as handing her cash.
Again, I haven't seen this provider but I don't get a "scam vibe" from her website. My best guess is that she's been ripped off (maybe with counterfeit bills) and this is the defense mechanism she's come up with. By asking a first-timer to buy the gift card, she's reducing her risk.
FWIW, I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt here but that still doesn't mean I'd be happy jumping through those kinds if hoops and she definitely does not say anything about gift cards on her site. A bigger issue for me is she claims to have reviews but there's nothing on the oThER site and what she has on her webpage could easily have been self-written.
Bottom line: there's plenty of good, well-reviewed FBSM value out there without having to deal with all that BS and the crap attitude on top of it. For 120 an hr you can visit almost any one of the Thai massage providers (check reviews and forum reports first) and you'll be a happy client.
So I answered an add on backpage for a massage. Had one of the wixsite webpages with all the details and donations for a massage.
Ginger4 uu. wixsite.com/ pure-relaxation.
Set up an appointment and was directed to a shopping center in Fairfax and told to text when I arrive. So far so good. Nothing out of the ordinary here. Then when I text that I arrived I'm told "first time client must buy a Visa Vanilla gift debit card with the hour fee on it. " No cash accepted. After the first visit then you can pay however you want.
I refused. I said you should have told me this BEFORE I drove down here. They responded and said it's all on their website and I should have known. I went home and read every page on the website TWICE. Nothing about Visa gift cards.
Is this some kind of scam? I just moved here from LA and I have never seen anything like this. My gut said no way so I bailed out. I texted back and said your website says nothing about gift cards. They responded back and said I missed out on a surprise free 4 hand session. Yeah. Right.
Does anyone have any ideas on if this is a scam?I never had a provider refuse cash as payment during my years of mongering, not even on the first visit. There's something strange going on here. You did the right thing by bailing. And as JmSuttr pointed out, there are plenty of other providers who will provide what you're looking for at a similar price. RTFF and do your homework first before going to see any of them.
Hypothetical
03-10-18, 10:34
I never had a provider refuse cash as payment during my years of mongering, not even on the first visit. There's something strange going on here. You did the right thing by bailing. And as JmSuttr pointed out, there are plenty of other providers who will provide what you're looking for at a similar price. RTFF and do your homework first before going to see any of them.Yes, a total scam.
http://nova.postfastr.com/TherapeuticMassage/scam-do-not-see-ginger-in-ffx-steals-money/47041237
Just in case the link goes bad.
http://nova.postfastr.com/TherapeuticMassage/scam-do-not-see-ginger-in-ffx-steals-money/47041237
Just in case the link goes bad.For this to be a true scam someone needs to demonstrate how the provider (or scammer) gets money from the client without actually meeting him in person.
The point I made earlier is still valid. As long as the client doesn't give the provider any numbers or codes from the back of the Vanilla card, then having the card in his hand when he shows up for the appt is the equivalent of having cash in hand. The only way this turns into a scam is if we get some report that she calls a client and asks him for the numbers on the card itself.
Otherwise, it's still my theory that this could be the (excessive) defense mechanism of a provider who has been ripped off. I'm not saying I couldn't be wrong about this, just that it hasn't yet been proved.
BuckshotWatson
03-14-18, 09:09
For this to be a true scam someone needs to demonstrate how the provider (or scammer) gets money from the client without actually meeting him in person.
The point I made earlier is still valid. As long as the client doesn't give the provider any numbers or codes from the back of the Vanilla card, then having the card in his hand when he shows up for the appt is the equivalent of having cash in hand. The only way this turns into a scam is if we get some report that she calls a client and asks him for the numbers on the card itself.
Otherwise, it's still my theory that this could be the (excessive) defense mechanism of a provider who has been ripped off. I'm not saying I couldn't be wrong about this, just that it hasn't yet been proved.The text of the ad / thumbnail LAmovr posted indicates she requests the PIN, drains the card, and then cancels the appointment.
The text of the ad / thumbnail LAmovr posted indicates she requests the PIN, drains the card, and then cancels the appointment.Ah, ok. When I first looked at his post the thumbnail wouldn't enlarge when I clicked on it. So it looked like it was her regular ad instead of someone posting the additional details of the scam. So, if that's accurate (and the original poster never got that far into the process), then it certainly meets the criteria of a scam.
Hypothetical
03-15-18, 14:33
Ok. I fell for it. Water under the bridge, live goes one.
Got a text this afternoon. She now wants to credit back. Asked for name and email.
Ah, ok. When I first looked at his post the thumbnail wouldn't enlarge when I clicked on it. So it looked like it was her regular ad instead of someone posting the additional details of the scam. So, if that's accurate (and the original poster never got that far into the process), then it certainly meets the criteria of a scam.
Ok. I fell for it. Water under the bridge, live goes one.
Got a text this afternoon. She now wants to credit back. Asked for name and email.One of the classic scammer tactics is making contact again and running a different con. I guess they figure if they fooled you once there's a decent chance they can do it again. And one of the standard follow-up scams is to pretend they want to help you get back some or all of your money.
From what you posted, it's my guess they'll start with name and email but then ask for more, like a cc or bank account number so they can "credit" you with the money. Yeah, right!
Let's hope karma catches up with these b*tches sooner rather than later.
Elber Gonzalez
04-03-18, 14:17
I wanted to try something new today and decided to check BP, I saw a chubby one and as some of you might know I really enjoy my time with them, well this time was an exception. She acted normal all the way until she received the donation, she started with that stupid attitude like "do not touch my tits, don't touch my legs, don't raise your voice, don't be rude" all that crap that comes with all those bitches who been raped / abused while making money. I was like come on, if you don't want any of this why you fucking working doing this! Anyway I got really pissed off, she didn't even reveal that set of Gees like she said she will at the beginning. She told me she is 21, probably she is, she has a fat ass and a nice pair of tits, but her whole attitude is a turn off. So for those who value good service I suggest avoid this one, I know YMMV but I really think she is a lost case.
I wanted to try something new today and decided to check BP, I saw a chubby one and as some of you might know I really enjoy my time with them, well this time was an exception. She acted normal all the way until she received the donation, she started with that stupid attitude like "do not touch my tits, don't touch my legs, don't raise your voice, don't be rude" all that crap that comes with all those bitches who been raped / abused while making money. I was like come on, if you don't want any of this why you fucking working doing this! Anyway I got really pissed off, she didn't even reveal that set of Gees like she said she will at the beginning. She told me she is 21, probably she is, she has a fat ass and a nice pair of tits, but her whole attitude is a turn off. So for those who value good service I suggest avoid this one, I know YMMV but I really think she is a lost case.Thanks for the report. It sounds like she needs to find another line of work and / or get some professional help. I hope you didn't lose much money, especially if she didn't put out.
Elber Gonzalez
04-04-18, 09:18
Thanks for the report. It sounds like she needs to find another line of work and / or get some professional help. I hope you didn't lose much money, especially if she didn't put out.Agree, I think she needs some sort of help, in my report I forgot to mention that seemed like someone was smoking cannabis inside the room, can't tell she was high as fuck though, probably she uses eye drops or something, the point is that I've seen folks not feeling well when in presence of heavy weed stench, so yeah another good reason to avoid her.
Yes, I lost couple bucks, in this game at some point there are some loses, I'm glad she is just like 1% of all hoes I've been with. At the end it was me who decided to leave the room, because as soon she got the money, she only took her pants off, she didn't want to take her hoodie off, she just laid in the bed, no more positions, she didn't want to be touch at all!! That's when I started to raise my voice because ***** seemed she was not going to work as she agreed before, after being yelled she at least took her hoodie off to show the shape of those huge tits, she didn't took off her sports bra, but I could tell she has some curves, then when finally made her to bend her over she didn't want me to grab that fat ass! That's when I left the room, couldn't stand that bitchy attitude.
Agree, I think she needs some sort of help, in my report I forgot to mention that seemed like someone was smoking cannabis inside the room, can't tell she was high as fuck though, probably she uses eye drops or something, the point is that I've seen folks not feeling well when in presence of heavy weed stench, so yeah another good reason to avoid her.
Yes, I lost couple bucks, in this game at some point there are some loses, I'm glad she is just like 1% of all hoes I've been with. At the end it was me who decided to leave the room, because as soon she got the money, she only took her pants off, she didn't want to take her hoodie off, she just laid in the bed, no more positions, she didn't want to be touch at all!! That's when I started to raise my voice because ***** seemed she was not going to work as she agreed before, after being yelled she at least took her hoodie off to show the shape of those huge tits, she didn't took off her sports bra, but I could tell she has some curves, then when finally made her to bend her over she didn't want me to grab that fat ass! That's when I left the room, couldn't stand that bitchy attitude.Amber's links:
http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/510-563-9970/46615492
https://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/510-563-9970/2/1449595
FWIW, I always question why a good provider would incur the high costs involved in traveling from CA all the way to the DMV. If she has a good reputation, and is making good $ in her home area, then it's cheaper for her to work out of her own residence, local hotels, shared apt arrangement, or local outcalls. If she's concerned about privacy issues, then there are less expensive options closer to home.
It's my belief the DMV has a reputation with providers for clients willing to pay higher prices. When providers visit from lower-cost areas, that makes good business sense to me so it doesn't set off my alarms. But when they come from places like SAN, LAX, SFO, PDX, and SEA, that raises a red flag for me unless they have good reviews or intel reports. Of course there are always exceptions, such as providers who travel a regular circuit, but even those have reviews and reports once they've been at it for a while.
So the bottom-line for me is that if I'm going to TOFTT on an unreviewed provider, the better odds are to go with someone who looks to be local (who will hopefully care about repeat business) or maybe a provider who looks like she's coming from a nearby or lower-cost area.
In the end it's still a gamble and all we can do is try to improve the odds as best we can.
Sorry for your experience but thanks for the heads up!
AVOID this girl:
http://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/your-favorite-petite-playmate/485049666464
916#1558.
It is hard to describe a story from a different person, but I will try:
My coworker flew into DC for a conference this past week and met this girl in Alexandria. She is NOT the girl in the photos (1st warning to leave). She is a little person and not very cute, however, he stayed. She demanded payment upfront of $. 2 for a QV (2 d warning). Then, she began with a CBJ, and after a short while (or however long until he got to attention), he wanted to move to CFS. She demanded $. 5 more, after he declined she proceeded to get dressed after he was there for only a few minutes (3 d warning to leave). He attempted to negotiate terms from him to finish, or for half of his money back. She threatened to call for "help", and began immediately texting someone. He finally decided to leave unhappy, then he called me for advice.
I referred him to Diamond in southern MD. He had a much better evening after that encounter.
Stay very safe mongers.
There are several problem reports recently posted. Trouble was indicated all along these stories.
I recently went to a provider with few reviews to toftt and see for myself. I first called her and asked if she had reviews I could look at. She said "Is that still a thing?" Of course she was correct, we have lost TER. The review sites remaining are less reliable and have paywalls. This group is good, but limited. So. The conversation was awkward. I do not discuss specifics, prices, or anything that could not appear in the Washington Post about me. So I asked here to talk to me about herself.
She almost immediately put me at ease. She told me that she had a safe place and that I would go away happy. It was less of what she said and more of how she said it.
So, talk to the provider you seek. Use your kindergarden skills. Stay away from the crazy kid who will get you in trouble. Go see the girl that verbally takes you by the hand.
This is my humble opinion. It can be nice to meet a provider that will take you by the hand.
https://adultsearch.com/washington-dc/washington-dc/body-rubs/1136737
Haven't seen her ads for a while but just saw this one and wanted to post a "heads up" in the forum.
Info can be found by doing a forum name search but, IIRC, her scam involves telling you to buy a gift card, asking for the card number over the phone, and then cancelling the appt.
I know experienced mongers wouldn't fall for this but wanted to post as a PSA.
Elber Gonzalez
02-20-19, 10:52
As I mentioned before I went back to look pussy online, and found this ***** again, for those of you who didn't read my review a while ago about this one, she is bad news, she has a terrible attitute, she doesn't do doggy, she doesn't let those tatas being played, after the 5th min she is going to start rushing you, the worse part is that she has her manager hidden inside the bathroom while she is dating, not than I'm afraid of him, but he is been working with different girls throu the last couple years around the hwy -after being rejected in those shitty motels they are now at the extended stay off eisenhower- and his cocky attitude sooner or later will get LE enforcement attention, that's when things can get ugly, I know YMMV, but you been warned, if you are a 5 min dude you probably should ignore this.
Elber Gonzalez
02-20-19, 12:09
I also happen to accidentally meet this one, looks like manager got confused with ads and I ended up seeing this one instead the one I was supposed to. First off, she was definitely under the influence of something, if you hate smoke smell I wouldn't even think about this one, the room had a mixed smell of cigarettes, cheap booze, cannabis and creampies. Once bent over the view is great, but has a lot of rules and start rushing, not sure because of the paranoia from whatever she dosed before or if she is ripping off people, I will not repeat, YMMV.
I also happen to accidentally meet this one, looks like manager got confused with ads and I ended up seeing this one instead the one I was supposed to. First off, she was definitely under the influence of something, if you hate smoke smell I wouldn't even think about this one, the room had a mixed smell of cigarettes, cheap booze, cannabis and creampies. Once bent over the view is great, but has a lot of rules and start rushing, not sure because of the paranoia from whatever she dosed before or if she is ripping off people, I will not repeat, YMMV.I don't know that I would consider these rip-offs. Bad service / experience? Sure. But I think a rip-off is someone who doesn't provide any services, steals from you, or doesn't deliver what has been explicitly promised.
Elber Gonzalez
02-21-19, 00:16
I don't know that I would consider these rip-offs. Bad service / experience? Sure. But I think a rip-off is someone who doesn't provide any services, steals from you, or doesn't deliver what has been explicitly promised.Well, in my book if I pay for a half hour and after 5 minutes of service she starts rushing me / killing the the mood and of course if she changes her mind about what she is going to allow to happen is a fucking rip off, period.
Vamassage Fan
03-08-19, 06:11
Alerting folks to what I perceived as a scam, though I bailed before losing anything other than wasted time. Browsing a SB site and found an attractice babe - "sophia" (but probably fake pics and name), agreed upon 1. 5 fee for initial meet and she volunteered that she wanted to go right to fun and a private meet. Indicated she had her own apt, I googled it and was a very upscale safe building so I agreed. Got directions, got to building, then instead of providing me her apt # she said I had to provide her half the donation via cash app so she would know I was real before she would give the info. I did not, and exchanges via text quickly confirmed to me that she was not real, probably was not even in or at that building, and instead likely planned to just get the cash and then vanish. The person could have been 100 miles away. Her use of a SB site, a very reputable address made it seem very legit. Be careful.
Jose Cuervo
03-08-19, 09:57
(...) instead of providing me her apt # she said I had to provide her half the donation via cash app so she would know I was real before she would give the info. I did not, and exchanges via text quickly confirmed to me that she was not real, probably was not even in or at that building, and instead likely planned to just get the cash and then vanish. The person could have been 100 miles away. (...) Definitely, 100% a rip off. Heck "she" could have been in another country, not just 100 miles away. Good call VM, you were thinking with the big head. I had a similar encounter from STG, and looking back at it, it's even possible the texts from "her" were automated, not even from a real human. The minute they mention a "verification service" or a "deposit" is the minute you should block the number and move on.
Like the man said, be careful guys!
Peace,
Jose.
Definitely, 100% a rip off. Heck "she" could have been in another country, not just 100 miles away. Good call VM, you were thinking with the big head. I had a similar encounter from STG, and looking back at it, it's even possible the texts from "her" were automated, not even from a real human. The minute they mention a "verification service" or a "deposit" is the minute you should block the number and move on.
Like the man said, be careful guys!
Peace,
Jose.Indeed. There's no reason a provider needs an advance deposit or a verification service. Considering all the trouble that's been going down in the hobby lately, there's no way of knowing whether that "verification service" is actually Uncle LEO in disguise.
Jose Cuervo
03-09-19, 11:58
Indeed. There's no reason a provider needs an advance deposit or a verification service. Considering all the trouble that's been going down in the hobby lately, there's no way of knowing whether that "verification service" is actually Uncle LEO in disguise.Totally! Getting ripped off would be the best case -- it only gets worse from there.
Credit cards have zero application in this hobby. The minute she asks for a credit card is the minute you should start running in the other direction.
Peace,
Jose.
Totally! Getting ripped off would be the best case -- it only gets worse from there.
Credit cards have zero application in this hobby. The minute she asks for a credit card is the minute you should start running in the other direction.
Peace,
Jose.Gift cards also currently seem to be in favor with scammers. Once they have the number from the card they can drain it even if it's still in the client's possession.
And Cashapp, or anything similar where they're asking for $ in advance, should also be avoided, IMHO. I know some legit providers have started asking for deposits since BP and TER went away. I understand their position but it's your hard-earned $ and there are many options out there with less risk.
PotatoBagel
05-08-19, 18:34
Avoid this one https://nova.bedpage.com/WomenSeekMen/landmark-mall-alexandria-virginia-ee-uu/7991700.html.
She's 100% a scam. Classic bait and switch. The photos are from 10 years ago probably. Since then she gained almost 100 pounds. I was like wth. Very rushed. Alot of rules. She stinked. Her coachie was full of disgusting sores. She might not be that clean after all. Horrible experience. Go there if you want to remember her forever!
Gift cards also currently seem to be in favor with scammers. Once they have the number from the card they can drain it even if it's still in the client's possession.
And Cashapp, or anything similar where they're asking for $ in advance, should also be avoided, IMHO. I know some legit providers have started asking for deposits since BP and TER went away. I understand their position but it's your hard-earned $ and there are many options out there with less risk.Yep, whenever I visit a place with asks for cc, I always use a pre-paid gift card. I don't mind the extra charge of the visa gift card so long as my bank account isn't going to be drained. Live and learn and be safe!
As I mentioned before I went back to look pussy online, and found this ***** again, for those of you who didn't read my review a while ago about this one, she is bad news, she has a terrible attitute, she doesn't do doggy, she doesn't let those tatas being played, after the 5th min she is going to start rushing you, the worse part is that she has her manager hidden inside the bathroom while she is dating, not than I'm afraid of him, but he is been working with different girls throu the last couple years around the hwy -after being rejected in those shitty motels they are now at the extended stay off eisenhower- and his cocky attitude sooner or later will get LE enforcement attention, that's when things can get ugly, I know YMMV, but you been warned, if you are a 5 min dude you probably should ignore this.Her manager could also be filming and then you could later be contacted for a shakedown threatening to put on the internet.
Lovejugs.
Not sure if it is a catfisher or just a crazy woman.
I like to troll CL and look for unicorns. My record isn't too bad there and I have a couple of UTRs that are in my rolodex. I thought I had found another. Not going into details, but a gigantic waste of time and was hitting me up for money for no service. You've been warned.
Jose Cuervo
07-27-19, 10:59
Not sure if it is a catfisher or just a crazy woman.
I like to troll CL and look for unicorns. My record isn't too bad there and I have a couple of UTRs that are in my rolodex. I thought I had found another. Not going into details, but a gigantic waste of time and was hitting me up for money for no service. You've been warned.Hey brother, thanks for posting this. But can you tell a little more about what happened? It's helpful so that others can learn to recognize the signs.
Thanks in advance!
Jose.
WalterKovacs
07-28-19, 15:13
DO NOT BOTHER WASTING TIME WITH DERIKA PUCCI! SHE'S INSANE or a drug addict or something. I booked with her for an hour, she doesn't tell me the location I get to the area and when I call then she says you have to be verified I'm like ok? She asks what I do for a living, I tell her (Mind you she never asked for references, I'd, etc.). She flakes then I call her and she has a crazy attitude. Wasted my whole night. DO NOT BOOK WITH HER. This is like the second time this broad has been on some weird stuff.
Dimples572
08-24-19, 11:11
Long time lurker, first time poster. I'd been in the game for over 10 yrs, moved away from the DC area for about 5 yrs and completely stopping hobbying. Moved back about 2 mos ago and my first toe dip back in the pool and I get frickin scammed. I blame myself, rookie mistake. If I'd been on my game I wouldn't have let the happen. This hadn't happened to me in so long I looked right past all the warning signs. Oh well, lessons learned.
So I was alone in a hotel late Wed night, feeling frisky so I start browsing. Since it's been so long since I've done this none of my references or my P411 don't hold much credibility so my pickins are kinda slim. It's getting late and I'm getting anxious to find something and I stumble upon Sasha's fine, thick ass and text her to see if she's available. We go back and forth, she says $300 for BBFS for an hr. But she's in Dupont, I'm all the way out near Dulles and it's past midnight. But of course the little head says fuck it, let's do this! So I call to confirm, even ask her to confirm that the pics are real and she responds immediately with a pic of herself taking a selfie and it's def the same hot chick in the add.
So I get dressed and head down to DC, stop at the ATM. Text her when I arrive and she says for me to call her. So I call and she tells me she needed to run out to get condoms and needs about 10 minutes. So I say ok and am a bit confused, so I text her and ask if it's BBFS why do you need to run out to get condoms? The was clearly a warning sign, I headed back to my truck with the intention of just leaving. But I waited to see if shed answer my text. So stupid, should've just left right then. So about 15 minutes later she calls and says she's ready, so I ask why do you need condoms? And she played dumb, acted like they we're for her, that she was just out and needed more for other clients and she'd just lost track of time when she left to get them. So she could sense that I wasn't really having it, giving some attitude and apologized over and over and promised we'd have a great time and to come back to the hotel. So I said fine and she wanted me to call when I got in front of the hotel so she could come down and hand me a key to get in. So as I walk up and start to call a large black "woman" (after up close inspection it was a side in a wig) says she has Sasha on the phone. Confirms with her that no I'm not black and no I'm not Uncle LEO and asks me for the donation and hands me a room key and tells me I need to go into the lobby, walk past the elevators and take the stairwell up to the 3rd floor and I needed the room key to open the door to get access to the floor. So needless to say I followed the instructions, go up the stairs to the 3rd floor and there is no key slot or touch pad to use the key, the doors were locked and I immediately knew that I'd just been scammed. I went back down and tried the elevators anyway hoping that the key might work in the elevator, but to no avail. So I left and obviously the cross dresser that was outside was long gone with my money. So yes I was pissed off. But more so at myself more than anything else. There were so many instances that should've / did give me pause that I completed ignored.
So like I said, lesson learned. As soon as I got back to my room and did my due diligence that had I done before I left it would've saved me alot of time, frustration and money because from a simple reverse image lookup I would've seen that the pics are from some chicks Instagram account. So be aware fellas, and be more diligent than I was about it.
Here's the link to her add plus some more info I found on her after doing more research:
https://adultsearch.com/washington-dc/washington-dc/female-escorts/1431689
https://www.adultlook.com/p/2979122
Here's one under a different phone number where it says she's a shemale. WTF.
https://adultsearch.com/washington-dc/washington-dc/tstv-shemale-escorts/1469207
Long time lurker, first time poster. I'd been in the game for over 10 yrs, moved away from the DC area for about 5 yrs and completely stopping hobbying. Moved back about 2 mos ago and my first toe dip back in the pool and I get frickin scammed. I blame myself, rookie mistake. If I'd been on my game I wouldn't have let the happen. This hadn't happened to me in so long I looked right past all the warning signs. Oh well, lessons learned.
So I was alone in a hotel late Wed night, feeling frisky so I start browsing. Since it's been so long since I've done this none of my references or my P411 don't hold much credibility so my pickins are kinda slim. It's getting late and I'm getting anxious to find something and I stumble upon Sasha's fine, thick ass and text her to see if she's available. We go back and forth, she says $300 for BBFS for an hr. But she's in Dupont, I'm all the way out near Dulles and it's past midnight. But of course the little head says fuck it, let's do this! So I call to confirm, even ask her to confirm that the pics are real and she responds immediately with a pic of herself taking a selfie and it's def the same hot chick in the add.
So I get dressed and head down to DC, stop at the ATM. Text her when I arrive and she says for me to call her. So I call and she tells me she needed to run out to get condoms and needs about 10 minutes. So I say ok and am a bit confused, so I text her and ask if it's BBFS why do you need to run out to get condoms? The was clearly a warning sign, I headed back to my truck with the intention of just leaving. But I waited to see if shed answer my text. So stupid, should've just left right then. So about 15 minutes later she calls and says she's ready, so I ask why do you need condoms? And she played dumb, acted like they we're for her, that she was just out and needed more for other clients and she'd just lost track of time when she left to get them. So she could sense that I wasn't really having it, giving some attitude and apologized over and over and promised we'd have a great time and to come back to the hotel. So I said fine and she wanted me to call when I got in front of the hotel so she could come down and hand me a key to get in. So as I walk up and start to call a large black "woman" (after up close inspection it was a side in a wig) says she has Sasha on the phone. Confirms with her that no I'm not black and no I'm not Uncle LEO and asks me for the donation and hands me a room key and tells me I need to go into the lobby, walk past the elevators and take the stairwell up to the 3rd floor and I needed the room key to open the door to get access to the floor. So needless to say I followed the instructions, go up the stairs to the 3rd floor and there is no key slot or touch pad to use the key, the doors were locked and I immediately knew that I'd just been scammed. I went back down and tried the elevators anyway hoping that the key might work in the elevator, but to no avail. So I left and obviously the cross dresser that was outside was long gone with my money. So yes I was pissed off. But more so at myself more than anything else. There were so many instances that should've / did give me pause that I completed ignored.
So like I said, lesson learned. As soon as I got back to my room and did my due diligence that had I done before I left it would've saved me alot of time, frustration and money because from a simple reverse image lookup I would've seen that the pics are from some chicks Instagram account. So be aware fellas, and be more diligent than I was about it.
Here's the link to her add plus some more info I found on her after doing more research:
https://adultsearch.com/washington-dc/washington-dc/female-escorts/1431689
https://www.adultlook.com/p/2979122
Here's one under a different phone number where it says she's a shemale. WTF.
https://adultsearch.com/washington-dc/washington-dc/tstv-shemale-escorts/1469207In the days before the internet, a SW would catch your eye, get in the car and (after the LE check) tell you she had a room at a nearby motel. Upon arrival she'd ask for $ up front (all or part of her fee) and say she had to go in first to pay for the room. Once she had the cash, she was gone with the wind. A nice little tactic sometimes used was to offer to let you hang on to something of "value" (purse, identity card, etc.) to show that she could be trusted. Of course, anything handed over would turn out to be stolen, worthless, or both.
A more modern version is the gift-card scam in which you're told to buy a card and then directed to text the card serial number before meeting. Once the scammer has the number they drain the card and go silent.
The variation you described is more old-school, which just goes to show that technology may have advanced but all that's done is give the scammers more tools. And sometimes the older tools work just fine.
The common theme in all of these is simply gaining control of the money before you're ever allowed to meet the (supposed) provider. Once the cash is out of your control, it's over and you've lost. Which means the only protection is to never relinquish anything, not even a dollar, until you're actually in the room and satisfied with the situation.
Of course, that won't protect you from providers who take the $ and then claim it's only for "companionship" or from providers who say the base price is only for a HJ. Only good homework and RTFF will do that. But it should protect you from the full-on scammer.
Long time lurker, first time poster. I'd been in the game for over 10 yrs, moved away from the DC area for about 5 yrs and completely stopping hobbying. Moved back about 2 mos ago and my first toe dip back in the pool and I get frickin scammed. I blame myself, rookie mistake. If I'd been on my game I wouldn't have let the happen. This hadn't happened to me in so long I looked right past all the warning signs. Oh well, lessons learned.
So I was alone in a hotel late Wed night, feeling frisky so I start browsing. Since it's been so long since I've done this none of my references or my P411 don't hold much credibility so my pickins are kinda slim. It's getting late and I'm getting anxious to find something and I stumble upon Sasha's fine, thick ass and text her to see if she's available. We go back and forth, she says $300 for BBFS for an hr. But she's in Dupont, I'm all the way out near Dulles and it's past midnight. But of course the little head says fuck it, let's do this! So I call to confirm, even ask her to confirm that the pics are real and she responds immediately with a pic of herself taking a selfie and it's def the same hot chick in the add.
So I get dressed and head down to DC, stop at the ATM. Text her when I arrive and she says for me to call her. So I call and she tells me she needed to run out to get condoms and needs about 10 minutes. So I say ok and am a bit confused, so I text her and ask if it's BBFS why do you need to run out to get condoms? The was clearly a warning sign, I headed back to my truck with the intention of just leaving. But I waited to see if shed answer my text. So stupid, should've just left right then. So about 15 minutes later she calls and says she's ready, so I ask why do you need condoms?.Damn. Thanks for sharing. That was a great report. I see lots of cashapp scams. I had one where an escort whom I already enjoyed wrote me out the blue asking for cashapp donations for this or that. Nope.
Number 1, I am not using my real name, so no one is getting a bank transfer. Number 2, see Number 1.
Take care of your privacy brothers, fun is fun, but be careful out there. I am now avoiding hotels and apartments (not enough clean towels!) and focusing on turning AMPs into personal erotic playzones where all things are on the table. It working! Takes some investment, but when I TOFTT, its at a new AMP.
Pbarber307
09-11-19, 02:44
This girl is a vampire. She is up and posts at all hours: late afternoon, 1 AM, 2 AM, 3 AM, 7 AM. She works with a crew consisting of an angry black guy, a trailer queen with lots of tattoos, and her baby. I text to set up a midday appointment and got the location to a familiar low grade motel. We do a mutual LE check, and I laid the envelope on the table. While I am proceeding to get comfortable, she looks at her phone, and then sets it down. I ask if she's going to get comfortable as well, and she then disrobes. About five minutes in, there is a knock on the door. I thought it was maid service because they were out on the floor working at the time. When I heard fluent English, I realized what was going on, and made the move to get my clothes on. Black guy comes in and tells me that the girl is his wife, and the trailer queen holding the baby tries to block me from getting my clothes. I grab the envelope and extended it away from the clothes; she grabs the envelope, hands the baby to the girl, and they both walk out the door. By this time I have my pants on. My objective is to diffuse the situation and get out. The black guy doesn't get physical, he is just boisterous, but he senses I am not cowed. He hints that what was in the envelope was not enough. At this point one hand is on my back pocket reaching for protection and phone. The other hand pulls out the lining of my front pocket, showing him that I have no money. He then asks how I contacted her, and I told him that she is the one who texted me. I showed him a couple texts on my cheap disposable phone. I said everything's cool, and that I am leaving. I walk out calmly down the hall in the opposite direction the girls went, out the back stairwell and out to my car. I had parked way off to the side near the road, so driving away was easy. So there it is. I managed to get out with minimal loss and without drawing attention. Remember to bring the envelope only. Leave anything you want to keep locked in the car. Locate all exits, plan a means of egress, and don't park up front. Don't panic, get out calmly and in one piece.
http://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/bunny-hey-guys-come-play-with/979042620637
https://escortalligator.com.dc.listcrawler.com/brief/1/bunny
Bunker Buster
09-11-19, 19:11
This girl is a vampire. She is up and posts at all hours: late afternoon, 1 AM, 2 AM, 3 AM, 7 AM. She works with a crew consisting of an angry black guy, a trailer queen with lots of tattoos, and her baby. I text to set up a midday appointment and got the location to a familiar low grade motel. We do a mutual LE check, and I laid the envelope on the table. While I am proceeding to get comfortable, she looks at her phone, and then sets it down. I ask if she's going to get comfortable as well, and she then disrobes. About five minutes in, there is a knock on the door. I thought it was maid service because they were out on the floor working at the time. When I heard fluent English, I realized what was going on, and made the move to get my clothes on. Black guy comes in and tells me that the girl is his wife, and the trailer queen holding the baby tries to block me from getting my clothes. I grab the envelope and extended it away from the clothes; she grabs the envelope, hands the baby to the girl, and they both walk out the door. By this time I have my pants on. My objective is to diffuse the situation and get out. The black guy doesn't get physical, he is just boisterous, but he senses I am not cowed. He hints that what was in the envelope was not enough. At this point one hand is on my back pocket reaching for protection and phone. The other hand pulls out the lining of my front pocket, showing him that I have no money. He then asks how I contacted her, and I told him that she is the one who texted me. I showed him a couple texts on my cheap disposable phone. I said everything's cool, and that I am leaving. I walk out calmly down the hall in the opposite direction the girls went, out the back stairwell and out to my car. I had parked way off to the side near the road, so driving away was easy. So there it is. I managed to get out with minimal loss and without drawing attention. Remember to bring the envelope only. Leave anything you want to keep locked in the car. Locate all exits, plan a means of egress, and don't park up front. Don't panic, get out calmly and in one piece.
http://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/bunny-hey-guys-come-play-with/979042620637
https://escortalligator.com.dc.listcrawler.com/brief/1/bunnyCall the hotel front desk and tell them you just got robbed by a pimp and prostitute in room xxx, then call the ho' and tell her that you just called the police, who are on their way. If you want to stick around for fun, you might see them hightailing it out the door. The hotel may also investigate and evict them.
I did this once, and when the ho' told Pimpy that I called the cops, I could hear the scramble to grab their things and get out.
Gift cards also currently seem to be in favor with scammers. Once they have the number from the card they can drain it even if it's still in the client's possession.
And Cashapp, or anything similar where they're asking for $ in advance, should also be avoided, IMHO. I know some legit providers have started asking for deposits since BP and TER went away. I understand their position but it's your hard-earned $ and there are many options out there with less risk.These scammers are purposely request stupid shit like that because person who is dumb enough to fall that kind of scam, that's only the start of it. They get you multiple times.
Call the hotel front desk and tell them you just got robbed by a pimp and prostitute in room xxx, then call the ho' and tell her that you just called the police, who are on their way. If you want to stick around for fun, you might see them hightailing it out the door. The hotel may also investigate and evict them.
I did this once, and when the ho' told Pimpy that I called the cops, I could hear the scramble to grab their things and get out.Getting robbed is a part of this game. Do your best surveillance, locate the exits, carry only what you need, and prepare to get out of there fast. I would never call the cops. Snitches get stitches. And they can find you if you do not ditch the burner phone. In my opinion. Take your licks and keep it moving and keep breathing.
Be careful out there brothers.
Lane Narrows
02-14-20, 02:18
When to see this at an apartment at 4XX3 Quiet Woods Lane in a complex in Fairfax. What was there when I arrived was nothing like the pictures. Instead of a white spinner, what greeted me was a tall AA woman. I was there so I thought I would try it. That was a mistake. Lousy CBJ, lousy CFS, shorted me, and then wanted a tip. When she didn't get a tip, she tried to say she had my phone number (burner) and plate number (I parked on the other side of the complex). Avoid like the plague it is.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/45332134/
Pbarber307
02-14-20, 02:32
When to see this at an apartment at 4XX3 Quiet Woods Lane in a complex in Fairfax. What was there when I arrived was nothing like the pictures. Instead of a white spinner, what greeted me was a tall AA woman. I was there so I thought I would try it. That was a mistake. Lousy CBJ, lousy CFS, shorted me, and then wanted a tip. When she didn't get a tip, she tried to say she had my phone number (burner) and plate number (I parked on the other side of the complex). Avoid like the plague it is.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/45332134/Sorry to hear, but did you think those pics were real? A quick google search of the number associated with that ad reveals an ad for a black tranny. Hope for you that CFS involved a vagina.
https://tsescortindex.com/ad/washingtondc/410-417-8419/5/417232
RogerQuack
02-20-20, 16:12
I would personally recommend regularly changing out your phone so I am not a proponent of getting a huge amount of minutes for multiple months or even a year. Verizon has a prepaid that is $9. 99 at most places and gives you 40 minutes and does not require any on-line registration. That is enough time to set up a handful of dates if needed. I then discard the phone once used up. I just figure (and maybe being overly cautious) that it is not wise to have the same number show up on a whole bunch of providers phones, especially since some of these providers may be involved in other illegal activity that might cause greater scrutiny.Just insist on using a ProtonMail.com email. No phone number. The. You can even set how long the message is available!
Good luck!!
Bunker Buster
02-23-20, 19:00
Getting robbed is a part of this game. Do your best surveillance, locate the exits, carry only what you need, and prepare to get out of there fast. I would never call the cops. Snitches get stitches. And they can find you if you do not ditch the burner phone. In my opinion. Take your licks and keep it moving and keep breathing.
Be careful out there brothers.I didn't say to actually call the cops; I said to call the call the girl's number and tell her that you called the cops. The fun part is causing them to panic.
If the cops contact you, ditch the burner.
IMO at this day and age it probably warrants UTRs to come out. I scrolled through Norva CL and found a few ads with titles such as "head doctor", "husbands away", etc. I contacted "Allie" via email, she sent me a pic, we started texting, and I made my way out to Alexandria to help her out at 150 in exchange for mutual nude BBBJCIM with GFE. We meet up, she takes me to a,shithole of an apt, it was the girl in the pic but her body was dumpy and I could tell she has a hell of a fupa! I was like fuck it, its a BBBJ. In her ad she claims she's going thru a bad divorce and she'd recently lost her parents, none of which I gave a shit about, I just needed the nut. Plus if she would have been a true UTR, I could have reported here and passed the info. But no, it was a scam! When I get to the room she asks me to get comfortable on the bed and she would be back. The apartment was tiny and I thought she walked to the front of the room where the bathroom was. I took off my shoes and then put them back on and walked to the front room. The bathroom door was open and she was nowhere to be found! My senses were telling me something was up so I walked back to the bedroom and grabbed my jacket to roll out. As I walked to the front she walks in from the front door and has a black teen male with her. She asks where I'm going and he tells me to empty my pockets. Ha, these people have lost their minds, I have a CWP and because I'm dealing with CL, I'm packing a beautiful Kimber micro 1911! I pull it out, locked and loaded! I tell them I have no issues shooting them both in the fucking face! Fortunately neither were armed. I had them both lie on the floor with their feet crossed and hands behind their backs. I walked out the door and ran to the stairs and easily got away. My lesson, the hell with CL! I'm sticking to my regs!!
The last 4 of her cell is 1146, her real name is Karen, and she lives in Alexandria at some high rise prison looking apts!
Creepin.
MangoBalls78
03-21-20, 14:11
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TheOuroboros
03-21-20, 14:26
IMO at this day and age it probably warrants UTRs to come out. I scrolled through Norva CL and found a few ads with titles such as "head doctor", "husbands away", etc. I contacted "Allie" via email, she sent me a pic, we started texting, and I made my way out to Alexandria to help her out at 150 in exchange for mutual nude BBBJCIM with GFE. We meet up, she takes me to a,shithole of an apt, it was the girl in the pic but her body was dumpy and I could tell she has a hell of a fupa! I was like fuck it, its a BBBJ. In her ad she claims she's going thru a bad divorce and she'd recently lost her parents, none of which I gave a shit about, I just needed the nut. Plus if she would have been a true UTR, I could have reported here and passed the info. But no, it was a scam! When I get to the room she asks me to get comfortable on the bed and she would be back. The apartment was tiny and I thought she walked to the front of the room where the bathroom was. I took off my shoes and then put them back on and walked to the front room. The bathroom door was open and she was nowhere to be found! My senses were telling me something was up so I walked back to the bedroom and grabbed my jacket to roll out. As I walked to the front she walks in from the front door and has a black teen male with her. She asks where I'm going and he tells me to empty my pockets. Ha, these people have lost their minds, I have a CWP and because I'm dealing with CL, I'm packing a beautiful Kimber micro 1911! I pull it out, locked and loaded! I tell them I have no issues shooting them both in the fucking face! Fortunately neither were armed. I had them both lie on the floor with their feet crossed and hands behind their backs. I walked out the door and ran to the stairs and easily got away. My lesson, the hell with CL! I'm sticking to my regs!!
The last 4 of her cell is 1146, her real name is Karen, and she lives in Alexandria at some high rise prison looking apts!
Creepin.Wild story. I don't actively seek out crapshoots to avoid this exact nightmare scenario, but glad you have a means to protect yourself and got out safe!
LeCanard007
03-21-20, 14:27
IMO at this day and age it probably warrants UTRs to come out. I scrolled through Norva CL and found a few ads with titles such as "head doctor", "husbands away", etc. I contacted "Allie" via email, she sent me a pic, we started texting, and I made my way out to Alexandria to help her out at 150 in exchange for mutual nude BBBJCIM with GFE. We meet up, she takes me to a,shithole of an apt, it was the girl in the pic but her body was dumpy and I could tell she has a hell of a fupa! I was like fuck it, its a BBBJ. In her ad she claims she's going thru a bad divorce and she'd recently lost her parents, none of which I gave a shit about, I just needed the nut. Plus if she would have been a true UTR, I could have reported here and passed the info. But no, it was a scam! When I get to the room she asks me to get comfortable on the bed and she would be back. The apartment was tiny and I thought she walked to the front of the room where the bathroom was. I took off my shoes and then put them back on and walked to the front room. The bathroom door was open and she was nowhere to be found! My senses were telling me something was up so I walked back to the bedroom and grabbed my jacket to roll out. As I walked to the front she walks in from the front door and has a black teen male with her. She asks where I'm going and he tells me to empty my pockets. Ha, these people have lost their minds, I have a CWP and because I'm dealing with CL, I'm packing a beautiful Kimber micro 1911! I pull it out, locked and loaded! I tell them I have no issues shooting them both in the fucking face! Fortunately neither were armed. I had them both lie on the floor with their feet crossed and hands behind their backs. I walked out the door and ran to the stairs and easily got away. My lesson, the hell with CL! I'm sticking to my regs!!
The last 4 of her cell is 1146, her real name is Karen, and she lives in Alexandria at some high rise prison looking apts!
Creepin.I was looking at a CL ad with a different title. It was the same person as the number matches. I've attached a photo that she sent me if it helps. Thanks again.
I was looking at a CL ad with a different title. It was the same person as the number matches. I've attached a photo that she sent me if it helps. Thanks again.I'm so glad I posted, that is her!! You're welcome bro, I'm relieved I could help!
Thanks for the warning, Creep. Got to ask though, what's CL? I know of skipthegames, escortalligator and bedpages, but I'm not familiar with whatever CL is. Are most of the ads there set up like that?
EDIT: I had an epiphany and realized it's probably craigslist haha, nevermind me carry on folks.
IMO at this day and age it probably warrants UTRs to come out. I scrolled through Norva CL and found a few ads with titles such as "head doctor", "husbands away", etc. I contacted "Allie" via email, she sent me a pic, we started texting, and I made my way out to Alexandria to help her out at 150 in exchange for mutual nude BBBJCIM with GFE. We meet up, she takes me to a,shithole of an apt, it was the girl in the pic but her body was dumpy and I could tell she has a hell of a fupa! I was like fuck it, its a BBBJ. In her ad she claims she's going thru a bad divorce and she'd recently lost her parents, none of which I gave a shit about, I just needed the nut. Plus if she would have been a true UTR, I could have reported here and passed the info. But no, it was a scam! When I get to the room she asks me to get comfortable on the bed and she would be back. The apartment was tiny and I thought she walked to the front of the room where the bathroom was. I took off my shoes and then put them back on and walked to the front room. The bathroom door was open and she was nowhere to be found! My senses were telling me something was up so I walked back to the bedroom and grabbed my jacket to roll out. As I walked to the front she walks in from the front door and has a black teen male with her..Even before the CL and BP sites went dark, I usually followed a policy of not contacting any advertiser until, at a minimum, the ad had been up (and reposted at least several times) for at least a week. By that time, hopefully someone would have posted a review or intel on the forum. Also, with the passage of a sufficient amount of time, a web search of the phone number or ad pics has a better chance of finding useful results.
Right now, with this coronavirus situation, there are plenty of people out there (hookers, pimps, and others) who are either desperate or just plain predatory. Business is slow everywhere, not only in the hobby but also in whatever civvie job some may have. And anyone with a habit to feed will be especially on edge.
Glad you were well equipped to protect yourself, and a BIG thanks for the warning. Just wanted to add my two-cents worth as to why now is a good time to be ultra-careful. If you have a rotation of established regulars, it might be a great opportunity to take care of them and establish some big-time goodwill for the future.
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RustyMuffler
03-29-20, 10:46
Hi Creeping,
Tried to PM you but your inbox is full. Please delete some so I can contact you.
Also, my hat's off to you about how you handled that situation. Put those two in their place. Somebody with less self-restraint may hurt them if they keep that up.
Thanks,
Rusty.
I'm so glad I posted, that is her!! You're welcome bro, I'm relieved I could help!
FreddyCrougar
03-29-20, 11:38
Quoted 2. 6 for Hr. 15 minutes in, I took a little break and she wanted more to start up again. Don't waste your time.
https://escortindex.com/ad/washingtondc/470-371-3434/1/4249843
https://adlist24.io/classified-dating-adult-ads/female-escorts-women-seeking-men/united-states/district-of-columbia/washington-dc/view-2561266/5-str-srvice-ins-outs-qoun-a?yes=1
Grafenberg
03-29-20, 15:41
Dudes with boobs.De gustibus non est disputandum.
Where do you find the ads on Cls? I've looked and never find them what am I doing wrong?
RockSwithSalt
04-04-20, 18:59
Where do you find the ads on Cls? I've looked and never find them what am I doing wrong?Just looked and there are several posted in Beauty for NoVA.
So got ripped off by a new girl in Stafford although she's posted in Baltimore also. Small redhead who always has "pawg" in the ads. So after verifying she was legit I arrive and agree for hh. We start and she says she's setting a timer, that's a play some girls use to short you on time so I ask to see it and she immediately panics and puts the right amount of time on the clock. 5 minutes in she says she has to go the bathroom and takes her phone with her. Knew she was setting something up. She told her friend to call her I'm a few minutes and she answers the phone real loudly and the girl on the other end is saying she needs her and it's an emergency. Seen this before too. So rather than try to start something I get dressed and leave. When will these girls learn to keep customers. She currently has a (323) number but changes it a lot. She has a tattoo a over her right eye.
HardanFast
05-14-20, 16:49
That really sucks. And not in a good way. Sorry this happened. As you say, I would think they would make much more money by being legitimate than ripoffs. Of course, I think logic just does not apply to a lot of them. I know you mentioned that the phone number and ad changes often, but it would help if you post a link for an example at least. It may save some of us from the same fate. Also, thanks for posting. The best thing is for the word to get out about these. If business dries up for them maybe they will change. Probably not, but at least they will be ripping off fewer of us.
So got ripped off by a new girl in Stafford although she's posted in Baltimore also. Small redhead who always has "pawg" in the ads. So after verifying she was legit I arrive and agree for hh. We start and she says she's setting a timer, that's a play some girls use to short you on time so I ask to see it and she immediately panics and puts the right amount of time on the clock. 5 minutes in she says she has to go the bathroom and takes her phone with her. Knew she was setting something up. She told her friend to call her I'm a few minutes and she answers the phone real loudly and the girl on the other end is saying she needs her and it's an emergency. Seen this before too. So rather than try to start something I get dressed and leave. When will these girls learn to keep customers. She currently has a (323) number but changes it a lot. She has a tattoo a over her right eye.
That really sucks. And not in a good way. Sorry this happened. As you say, I would think they would make much more money by being legitimate than ripoffs. Of course, I think logic just does not apply to a lot of them. I know you mentioned that the phone number and ad changes often, but it would help if you post a link for an example at least. It may save some of us from the same fate. Also, thanks for posting. The best thing is for the word to get out about these. If business dries up for them maybe they will change. Probably not, but at least they will be ripping off fewer of us.This is her current one but who knows how long it will be up.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/49976837/
Grafenberg
05-14-20, 22:28
This is her current one but who knows how long it will be up.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/49976837/Here's a STG post.
http://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/double-trouble/126623777445
And another.
http://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/pink-pawg-aims-to-please/378223034569
Elber Gonzalez
06-13-20, 09:00
So got ripped off by a new girl in Stafford although she's posted in Baltimore also. Small redhead who always has "pawg" in the ads. So after verifying she was legit I arrive and agree for hh. We start and she says she's setting a timer, that's a play some girls use to short you on time so I ask to see it and she immediately panics and puts the right amount of time on the clock. 5 minutes in she says she has to go the bathroom and takes her phone with her. Knew she was setting something up. She told her friend to call her I'm a few minutes and she answers the phone real loudly and the girl on the other end is saying she needs her and it's an emergency. Seen this before too. So rather than try to start something I get dressed and leave. When will these girls learn to keep customers. She currently has a (323) number but changes it a lot. She has a tattoo a over her right eye.I've been planning on seeing this chubby one for a bit, but she reply my texts the next day when I'm not available, too bad she is playing those games smfh.
Quick question does she at least do something uncovered??
Bunker Buster
06-13-20, 18:20
I've been planning on seeing this chubby one for a bit, but she reply my texts the next day when I'm not available, too bad she is playing those games smfh.
Quick question does she at least do something uncovered??But she's unreliable and difficult to contact. I mostly gave up after the ripoff friend / sister came back in the picture. She pushes the chubby one to upsell and negotiate like an Istanbul rug merchant. Does she have a new number? The old one is out of service.
I've been planning on seeing this chubby one for a bit, but she reply my texts the next day when I'm not available, too bad she is playing those games smfh.
Quick question does she at least do something uncovered??Can't really speak about her, I only saw the red head.
Grafenberg
08-27-20, 18:03
https://fredericksburg.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/fil-me-up-and-make-me-cum/214646481455
This is a scam, she asks for cash outside the hotel.
PromisedLand
09-23-20, 17:53
This one's a scammer. Talks a good game on the phone and then when you get there and realise it's not the same person, she tries to extract a "cancellation fee" to avoid outing you and posting your picture publicly.
https://adultsearch.com/washington-dc/washington-dc/female-escorts/1627535
This one's a scammer. Talks a good game on the phone and then when you get there and realise it's not the same person, she tries to extract a "cancellation fee" to avoid outing you and posting your picture publicly.
https://adultsearch.com/washington-dc/washington-dc/female-escorts/1627535It doesn't specify in the ad you linked to. But, if she did, that's another good reason for never sending a pic. Her threatening to use it as a blackmail tactic might not be a big deal for some mongers but for others, with family and / or job considerations, it could be a very big deal.
Giving any personal info to someone you don't know is a dicey proposition.
D Anderson1968
11-18-20, 16:30
Last week I attempted to make an appointment with Sexy Joy from Adult Search at https://adultsearch.com/virginia/springfield/female-escorts/2124449. I should have seen the signs, but I am new to this. Initially, she was very responsive when I texted her to set up a 1 hr massage. She provided me her address in Old Town, Alexandria at an upscale hotel. Sexy Joy asked that I provide payment via gift card. She claimed it was for her security. After arriving to hotel I expected to provide the room #, instead she asked me for proof I had the gift cards. After going back and forth I finally provided her the information she requested. She then informed me she was finishing with another client and would let me know when to come up shortly. As I waited I got concerned and checked the status of the gift cards. She had already used the cards. Again, my stupidity and inexperience. She continued to indicate we would make the appointment, however after a few hours I needed to go. The next day she apologised for the missed appointment and wanted to reschedule. I thought she was trying resolve the matter, however she then asked for another gift card. This provider is a complete rip-off. I wanted to make sure everyone knows to avoid this provider.
Last week I attempted to make an appointment with Sexy Joy from Adult Search at https://adultsearch.com/virginia/springfield/female-escorts/2124449. I should have seen the signs, but I am new to this. Initially, she was very responsive when I texted her to set up a 1 hr massage. She provided me her address in Old Town, Alexandria at an upscale hotel. Sexy Joy asked that I provide payment via gift card. She claimed it was for her security. After arriving to hotel I expected to provide the room #, instead she asked me for proof I had the gift cards. After going back and forth I finally provided her the information she requested. She then informed me she was finishing with another client and would let me know when to come up shortly. As I waited I got concerned and checked the status of the gift cards. She had already used the cards. Again, my stupidity and inexperience. She continued to indicate we would make the appointment, however after a few hours I needed to go. The next day she apologised for the missed appointment and wanted to reschedule. I thought she was trying resolve the matter, however she then asked for another gift card. This provider is a complete rip-off. I wanted to make sure everyone knows to avoid this provider.First of all, thank you for sharing intelligence with your first post rather than seeking information. I'm sorry you got ripped off but you learned one valuable lesson: never pay with anything other than cash at the time of your visit. If the provider won't accept cash or demands an advance deposit, move on. Also move on if she wants personal identifying information such as your driver's license, employment information or your picture.
The text of that ad, by the way, resembles a fake or scam ad. Learn to read the ads and use photo search tools such as Google images or TinEye. I searched one of those photos with TinEye and it turned out to be a photo of porn star Jaye Summers. Reading the fucking forum (RTFF) will also be to your advantage. Better luck next time.
Hugh Jardon
11-19-20, 08:39
First of all, thank you for sharing intelligence with your first post rather than seeking information. I'm sorry you got ripped off but you learned one valuable lesson: never pay with anything other than cash at the time of your visit. If the provider won't accept cash or demands an advance deposit, move on. Also move on if she wants personal identifying information such as your driver's license, employment information or your picture.
The text of that ad, by the way, resembles a fake or scam ad. Learn to read the ads and use photo search tools such as Google images or TinEye. I searched one of those photos with TinEye and it turned out to be a photo of porn star Jaye Summers. Reading the fucking forum (RTFF) will also be to your advantage. Better luck next time.I echo what Tom says about your first post being informative (good job!) and also what he says about gift cards. No, no, a thousand times no! And the ad is exactly like every other scam ad. You'll get sharper at this. You learned a costly lesson, but learn from it and be smarter next time. Tell us when you find a good one!
Sup fellas. Sorry I took so long posting this. This happened to me last week. They are still posting and using the same phone number. This is the pic they are using but it's not of the girls running the scam. I talked to her for 2 days then finally went to see her and a girl friend. We agreed on a donation and she even called when I was enroute to the Americas Best Inn on Warrenton in Fredericksburg. Once in the room I was surprised by 3 guys who tried to rob me. I wrestled those 3 losers off me and got out of the locked room with everything I entered with. Thank God none of them had a weapon. PM me for details if you wish. A bit of free advice. I don't know how many of you mongers carry but I will definitely not be visiting any hotels in Fredericksburg from now on without my friend on my hip or who has been verified on this here board. Here is the number they are using. 540-377-1091.
I echo what Tom says about your first post being informative (good job!) and also what he says about gift cards. No, no, a thousand times no! And the ad is exactly like every other scam ad. You'll get sharper at this. You learned a costly lesson, but learn from it and be smarter next time. Tell us when you find a good one!These are the things that make me think an add is fake:
- multiple locations, or vague location - (washington).
- a phone number that doesn't show up on any review site (this one did not).
- suspiciously low rates (300 $ overnight).
- stock looking or model type images. Again, this was a pretty good example.
It's always possible this person is real, just ask them to text you a photo of them touching there nose with three fingers or something.
Be safe!
--BE.
BBanks5275
05-29-21, 18:48
Don't judge me. LOL, but I dreamed of this BBW three times previously, so I thought I could trust her. She asked for help three times through cash app, smaller amounts ($20, $30, etc.) for a total of $70. She stated next time I could see her two more times with no further payment, since I helped her out in advance, so I fell for it. I should have known better than to trust her, since she is no longer responding to my texts. It makes no sense to burn bridges with clients over a small amount, but you never know what goes through ones mind. It's hard to admit a mistake, but thought I'd share it so others can learn from it. Even if you've seen someone on a regular, don't trust the pre-payment requests. "I need help to pay for food, my room, etc. ".
Grafenberg
05-29-21, 21:47
Don't judge me. LOL, but I dreamed of this BBW three times previously, so I thought I could trust her. She asked for help three times through cash app, smaller amounts ($20, $30, etc.) for a total of $70. She stated next time I could see her two more times with no further payment, since I helped her out in advance, so I fell for it. I should have known better than to trust her, since she is no longer responding to my texts. It makes no sense to burn bridges with clients over a small amount, but you never know what goes through ones mind. It's hard to admit a mistake, but thought I'd share it so others can learn from it. Even if you've seen someone on a regular, don't trust the pre-payment requests. "I need help to pay for food, my room, etc. ".Install an app like TextMe, it allows you to change your number regularly. Setup a meeting from your new number.
Found her on Ladys. One. Very sincere via texting. Wanted Google Gift cards and even texted me telling me she was hungry and could I send her a card so she could have dinner the night before I was to arrive. I declined. The day I was to meet her in Alexandria, she gives me the address of a very expensive apartment building. Things didn't ad up and I never followed thru.
Pbarber307
06-02-21, 01:49
Don't judge me. LOL, but I dreamed of this BBW three times previously, so I thought I could trust her. She asked for help three times through cash app, smaller amounts ($20, $30, etc.) for a total of $70. She stated next time I could see her two more times with no further payment, since I helped her out in advance, so I fell for it. I should have known better than to trust her, since she is no longer responding to my texts. It makes no sense to burn bridges with clients over a small amount, but you never know what goes through ones mind. It's hard to admit a mistake, but thought I'd share it so others can learn from it. Even if you've seen someone on a regular, don't trust the pre-payment requests. "I need help to pay for food, my room, etc. ".Here is her ad. Damn, what's with the nether regions?
https://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/bbwhere-to-cater-to-your-needs/558303860486
https://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/beautiful-champion-here-to-roc/451163164212
Since I had seen her once before, I let my guard down. Gave the donation up front which I rarely do. 2 minutes into the BBBJ there's a knock on the door. Says it's the maid bringing the towels she asked for. She opened the door and ran out leaving me in the room at full attention. In hindsight I should have seen it coming. Just wanted to warn the rest of you to avoid her or be prepared!
PixelsAndGrids
08-03-21, 18:27
https://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/beautiful-champion-here-to-roc/451163164212
Since I had seen her once before, I let my guard down. Gave the donation up front which I rarely do. 2 minutes into the BBBJ there's a knock on the door. Says it's the maid bringing the towels she asked for. She opened the door and ran out leaving me in the room at full attention. In hindsight I should have seen it coming. Just wanted to warn the rest of you to avoid her or be prepared!Texted the 980 area code in the ad and the person texted was out shopping and Harmony wasn't picking up. First red flag and the second was her photos on Skip has a 571 area code in it.
Pbarber307
08-04-21, 00:49
Texted the 980 area code in the ad and the person texted was out shopping and Harmony wasn't picking up. First red flag and the second was her photos on Skip has a 571 area code in it.The 980 number is to Ms Brittany who posts on STG. She and Kayla were working together for a bit.
The 980 number is to Ms Brittany who posts on STG. She and Kayla were working together for a bit.I don't know what their deal is but on my first visit to see Kayla, contact was through Ms Brittany. Kayla said she pays her to post the ads. I think Ms Brittany manages a couple other girls too Shell and Brandi. No problems with the othe girls just Kayla is a ROB.
PixelsAndGrids
08-05-21, 09:12
https://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/beautiful-champion-here-to-roc/451163164212
Since I had seen her once before, I let my guard down. Gave the donation up front which I rarely do. 2 minutes into the BBBJ there's a knock on the door. Says it's the maid bringing the towels she asked for. She opened the door and ran out leaving me in the room at full attention. In hindsight I should have seen it coming. Just wanted to warn the rest of you to avoid her or be prepared!Did you get the room or did she or Ms Brittany? Just wondering why someone would do a dash if they rented the room. Perhaps you didn't want to stick around for obvious and no so reasons. In a room situation like that I make sure she has belongings she can't just grab or she's half naked before the deed.
PixelsAndGrids
08-05-21, 09:49
I don't know what their deal is but on my first visit to see Kayla, contact was through Ms Brittany. Kayla said she pays her to post the ads. I think Ms Brittany manages a couple other girls too Shell and Brandi. No problems with the othe girls just Kayla is a ROB.Texted the 980 number. Ms Brittany (account holder) replied Shell's not available, but Brandi is. Not sure where they are mainly working out of, but Kayla wanted to meet at the Extended on the other side of the old Landmark Mall last night.
Texted the 980 number. Ms Brittany (account holder) replied Shell's not available, but Brandi is. Not sure where they are mainly working out of, but Kayla wanted to meet at the Extended on the other side of the old Landmark Mall last night.I found out from a very reliable source that Ms Brittany and Kayla had a falling out. She also warned me that if I did see.
Kayla to "strap up for everything or you will be pissing fire in a couple of days".
So be warned there's a lot of reasons to just avoid her all together.
PixelsAndGrids
08-09-21, 18:17
I found out from a very reliable source that Ms Brittany and Kayla had a falling out. She also warned me that if I did see.
Kayla to "strap up for everything or you will be pissing fire in a couple of days".
So be warned there's a lot of reasons to just avoid her all together.She's on Skip with a different number again. Also on Richmond Highway south (claims 495) as opposed to Crystal City.
https://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/sexy-exotic-blue-eyed-snow-bun/855552018142
She's on Skip with a different number again. Also on Richmond Highway south (claims 495) as opposed to Crystal City.
https://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/sexy-exotic-blue-eyed-snow-bun/855552018142For the record;.
The link you provided is for May not Kayla / Harmony the thief. Mya is legit! Body is a little more stocky than the pics reveal and she seems to rush the visit but she offers a lot of extras for extra $. I didn't see her on my last trip but have seen her before with no problems.
Pbarber307
12-09-21, 15:39
This f $ at #ing pudgy little ginch who jacked me out of $150 has changed her name and has been posting again. You can read my previous post #110 for details (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9227-Ripoff-Reports/page4) . I invite everyone to blow up her phone to make bogus appointments and send her to various outcalls in the region.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/71537075
Tried to see one in Woodbridge. She seemed fine until I got there and wanted me to go into the hotel and just stand there with no direction and when I asked for the room number she stopped answering. I would avoid unless you want to be exposed in a hallway.
https://alexandria-va.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/quality-time/247072817377
RegularJoe1985
12-09-21, 18:43
This f $ at #ing pudgy little ginch who jacked me out of $150 has changed her name and has been posting again. You can read my previous post #110 for details (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9227-Ripoff-Reports/page4) . I invite everyone to blow up her phone to make bogus appointments and send her to various outcalls in the region.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/71537075Sorry to hear that. Did meet her off of SA a couple of years back. Her pics looked familiar and she'd sent me one of the pics listed on escortalligator.com and that's how I connected the dots.
I think she was just starting out and was okay, nothing great.
Did try to set up a couple of times afterwards but she had ex-issues and I gave up.
SumphknFool
12-10-21, 07:51
Tried to see one in Woodbridge. She seemed fine until I got there and wanted me to go into the hotel and just stand there with no direction and when I asked for the room number she stopped answering. I would avoid unless you want to be exposed in a hallway.
https://alexandria-va.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/quality-time/247072817377She's definitely a time waster plus a few of the pics are both old and not of her. I immediately left and went home. Now she's running some 2 girl visit in which she claims the picture-less other female doesn't do solo and only does 2 girl with her as if she's some prize catch. Visit at your own risk.
And reusing them on STG and charging a deposit.
FreeBalling
12-11-21, 17:34
Tried to see one in Woodbridge. She seemed fine until I got there and wanted me to go into the hotel and just stand there with no direction and when I asked for the room number she stopped answering. I would avoid unless you want to be exposed in a hallway.
https://alexandria-va.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/quality-time/247072817377She is real. I have dreamed about her twice. Both times left very happy. She can take a pounding. My first dream with her was similar she's trying to see you are for safety reasons. More than likely she's had people come to where she was and take all her stuff.
Grafenberg
12-22-21, 05:59
This f $ at #ing pudgy little ginch who jacked me out of $150 has changed her name and has been posting again. You can read my previous post #110 for details (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9227-Ripoff-Reports/page4) . I invite everyone to blow up her phone to make bogus appointments and send her to various outcalls in the region.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/71537075I setup a meet with the little porker. Wasted her time asking a bunch of questions, settling on a donation, then the time. Once all set, I tell her I'm 20 minutes away. Set my timer to not forget while watching the game. After 25 minutes tell her I'm at her location. Get the room number and block her phone, all while watching the foosball game. Mongers unite.
You're wasting your own time as well.
I setup a meet with the little porker. Wasted her time asking a bunch of questions, settling on a donation, then the time. Once all set, I tell her I'm 20 minutes away. Set my timer to not forget while watching the game. After 25 minutes tell her I'm at her location. Get the room number and block her phone, all while watching the foosball game. Mongers unite.
Grafenberg
12-26-21, 21:53
You're wasting your own time as well.How so, by watching football or texting during the commercials to try and make it harder for scammers? Maybe you take football super serious.
Bunker Buster
12-27-21, 17:45
You're wasting your own time as well.The satisfaction of getting revenge on those who would burn us is its own payment.
Old Chinese Guy
12-27-21, 19:42
The satisfaction of getting revenge on those who would burn us is its own payment.I agree, there is nothing better than sitting in the comfort of ones hime giving the scammers a run around while watching the game on TV.
This f $ at #ing pudgy little ginch who jacked me out of $150 has changed her name and has been posting again. You can read my previous post #110 for details (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9227-Ripoff-Reports/page4) . I invite everyone to blow up her phone to make bogus appointments and send her to various outcalls in the region.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/71537075I actually decided despite the poor reviews to give her a shot. So I texted her asking how for 30 minutes and she replied 150 (ok) I then mention to her about the poor reviews and not to try and rob me (she swears she wouldn't do so) so I told her I would meet her under one condition, that I would pay her AFTER we finished... she refused and stopped talking to me. 😆.
SuperJimmy
12-28-21, 21:08
I also often entertain myself when I'm down in the basement watching games by doing some recon on escorts.
Happy hunting!
SJ.
I agree, there is nothing better than sitting in the comfort of ones hime giving the scammers a run around while watching the game on TV.
The pictures in this posting are stolen. The girl is called Skyler Oakley.
https://us-nova.bedpage.com/femaleescorts/springfield-va/18134111.html
BBanks5275
01-15-22, 00:59
This f $ at #ing pudgy little ginch who jacked me out of $150 has changed her name and has been posting again. You can read my previous post #110 for details (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9227-Ripoff-Reports/page4) . I invite everyone to blow up her phone to make bogus appointments and send her to various outcalls in the region.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/71537075She used to go by M $ Bunny White or Kim Williams? And recently returned from a state sponsored vacation for jacking some cash / beating up a guy with her partner, definitely stay clear of this one. Curious on the details of how she ripped you off $150, hopefully you are fine though after meeting up with her.
BBanks5275
01-15-22, 21:31
She used to go by M$ Bunny White or Kim Williams? And recently returned from a state sponsored vacation for jacking some cash / beating up a guy with her partner, definitely stay clear of this one. Curious on the details of how she ripped you off $150, hopefully you are fine though after meeting up with her.I didn't' read your original post clear enough. I read your previous post #110 for the details, glad you got out of that situation without any physical harm.
FreeBalling
01-16-22, 00:43
She used to go by M $ Bunny White or Kim Williams? And recently returned from a state sponsored vacation for jacking some cash / beating up a guy with her partner, definitely stay clear of this one. Curious on the details of how she ripped you off $150, hopefully you are fine though after meeting up with her.Trouble follows midget girl. If you are looking for trouble. She will bring it to you. She used to be down on route one across from the Krispy Kreme in the Alexandria area. There will be some guy on this webpage that will think he can changer her, save her. You're just going to get beat up and robbed.
DatDude1206
01-18-22, 09:57
She is real. I have dreamed about her twice. Both times left very happy. She can take a pounding. My first dream with her was similar she's trying to see you are for safety reasons. More than likely she's had people come to where she was and take all her stuff.Yep she's real and pretty fun. She's super concerned about safety which makes since.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/dc/73841179
This is Sage. Or Lucy, or Zoe, or who the Hell ever. She has some reports in the Sugar Baby pile under xxLucyMarieQuinn. Lobsid had some detailed info there. Well, she's been advertising for a year-plus now, and things must not be going too great!
I texted her once she had this 80 carplay ad up, and she said she was up for it. Timing didn't quite work, so it ended up being night, and she sent me an address that was a literal drug den. It was on the 700 block of 16th Street in NE DC, and it was a good thing I showed up 15 minutes early. Sat nearby, scoped it out, texted to say I was there, and waited. No woman coming out of the dilapidated structure, but 5 or 6 other dirtbags went in and out in 5 minutes' time, with two of them clearly out to sell drugs. I'd seen enough, so I got back in gear, turned around, and went home. At least I wasn't out the money, just the time and gas.
Not a ripoff for me, per se, but the location in question would have given war-torn Syrian refugees pause. Don't waste your time on this one; she's either on drugs herself or she's trying to set you up to get ripped and robbed.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/dc/73841179
This is Sage. Or Lucy, or Zoe, or who the Hell ever. She has some reports in the Sugar Baby pile under xxLucyMarieQuinn. Lobsid had some detailed info there. Well, she's been advertising for a year-plus now, and things must not be going too great!
I texted her once she had this 80 carplay ad up, and she said she was up for it. Timing didn't quite work, so it ended up being night, and she sent me an address that was a literal drug den. It was on the 700 block of 16th Street in NE DC, and it was a good thing I showed up 15 minutes early. Sat nearby, scoped it out, texted to say I was there, and waited. No woman coming out of the dilapidated structure, but 5 or 6 other dirtbags went in and out in 5 minutes' time, with two of them clearly out to sell drugs. I'd seen enough, so I got back in gear, turned around, and went home. At least I wasn't out the money, just the time and gas.
Not a ripoff for me, per se, but the location in question would have given war-torn Syrian refugees pause. Don't waste your time on this one; she's either on drugs herself or she's trying to set you up to get ripped and robbed.I'm thankful you're OK. I haven't mongered in DC proper in a number of years and never in that part of town. FYI, her ad is still active.
Since this took place in DC, you might want to post a report in that forum and warn the mongers there. Not that much hobbying is going on in DC these days, but they still should know.
So just saw an ad for this redhead chick with a face tattoo who was known for scamming people, I doubt she's had a change of heart so just be wary. She's going by Star now and these are two pics she had up today, can't really mistake the tattoos for another girl.
SwiftChariot
04-22-22, 11:47
Seems like the slightly unattractive white girl scam is getting more prevalent. Contacted and set-up a time, then asked if there is a deposit required. She said yes, I can pay when I get there. At this point I have no intention of going and just f*cked with her the rest of the afternoon. I created a fake paypal payment and she ghosted me.
https://nova.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/northern-virginia/22051044.html
Grafenberg
08-28-22, 13:42
https://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/harmony-s-back/717523411341
Heads up gentlemen, this one is posting again and there's a warning about ripoff scam.
https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/harmony---kayla-5716771784-362000
Renaissance248
10-15-22, 13:44
This one is a ripoff and you should avoid. The person doesn't look like the picture they posted on their ad. When you ask her for the price she states $300, but doesn't tell you about any upcharges until 15 minutes into the massage. She said that she starts with appointment in the beginning, but made no mention of extra until 15 minutes later. While massaging, she starts asking if you brought extra for tips and that she only does other things based on tips. Her tips start at $500 - $2000, depending on what you want to do.
https://www.eros.com/washington_dc/files/3592474.htm
SwiftChariot
11-15-22, 17:25
https://dc.bedpage.com/bodyrubs/penrose/22593244.html
Advertising 1. 8 hhr 2. 2 hr topless massage, it was not topless and lackluster.
Operating out of 1201 s Scott st Arlington.
https://dc.bedpage.com/bodyrubs/penrose/22593244.html
Advertising 1. 8 hhr 2. 2 hr topless massage, it was not topless and lackluster.
Operating out of 1201 s Scott st Arlington.I believe this is the same Russian agency that runs out of Tysons. Generally attractive girls, NOVA only, and topless only with a $100 tip. No extras such as BJ or FS at any price. Sub-average massage.
https://rubmd.com/washington-dc/e8bf89b0-40bd-485f-83da-c65ce59fb376
Member #6353
11-16-22, 09:14
This girl is a vampire. She is up and posts at all hours: late afternoon, 1 AM, 2 AM, 3 AM, 7 AM. She works with a crew consisting of an angry black guy, a trailer queen with lots of tattoos, and her baby. I text to set up a midday appointment and got the location to a familiar low grade motel. We do a mutual LE check, and I laid the envelope on the table. While I am proceeding to get comfortable, she looks at her phone, and then sets it down. I ask if she's going to get comfortable as well, and she then disrobes. About five minutes in, there is a knock on the door. I thought it was maid service because they were out on the floor working at the time. When I heard fluent English, I realized what was going on, and made the move to get my clothes on. Black guy comes in and tells me that the girl is his wife, and the trailer queen holding the baby tries to block me from getting my clothes. I grab the envelope and extended it away from the clothes; she grabs the envelope, hands the baby to the girl, and they both walk out the door. By this time I have my pants on. My objective is to diffuse the situation and get out. The black guy doesn't get physical, he is just boisterous, but he senses I am not cowed. He hints that what was in the envelope was not enough. At this point one hand is on my back pocket reaching for protection and phone. The other hand pulls out the lining of my front pocket, showing him that I have no money. He then asks how I contacted her, and I told him that she is the one who texted me. I showed him a couple texts on my cheap disposable phone. I said everything's cool, and that I am leaving. I walk out calmly down the hall in the opposite direction the girls went, out the back stairwell and out to my car. I had parked way off to the side near the road, so driving away was easy. So there it is. I managed to get out with minimal loss and without drawing attention. Remember to bring the envelope only. Leave anything you want to keep locked in the car. Locate all exits, plan a means of egress, and don't park up front. Don't panic, get out calmly and in one piece.
http://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/bunny-hey-guys-come-play-with/979042620637
https://escortalligator.com.dc.listcrawler.com/brief/1/bunnyI saw her a few years back and had not seen her previous reports. My experience could have easily gone the same way, but I think I got lucky. I pulled up to the dump of a hotel in Alexandria (Days Inn that looks like a prison). I coincidentally parked right in front of her room prior to getting the number. She gives me the number and at that moment a large man walks out of the room and heads for the stairwell. We passed each other on the stairwell when I was walking up. I guess he got a good look at me, too, and figured my size and stature wasn't worth the potential trouble -- not saying I could've taken him for certain, but I would not have been an easy mark for him.
When I got in the room I confirmed what I wanted as we previously discussed which was two BBBJs. She agreed, took the money and put it in the giant safe in the room. I got a little nervous at this point, but figured I might as well have gone through with it. I got comfortable, she got on her knees, and gave a pretty rough BBBJ with kungfu grip but she was committed to it at least. I blew one load in her mouth, told her she could take a 2 min breather, then she got back to work. She tried to quit midway through the second, I placed my hand on her head and told her I wasn't done and she obediently obliged until she got the second load.
I wouldn't repeat knowing what I know now, and her tight grip while sucking a dick, but I am glad that I dodged that bullet back then, ha.
BBanks5275
12-11-22, 13:33
I saw her a few years back and had not seen her previous reports. My experience could have easily gone the same way, but I think I got lucky. I pulled up to the dump of a hotel in Alexandria (Days Inn that looks like a prison). I coincidentally parked right in front of her room prior to getting the number. She gives me the number and at that moment a large man walks out of the room and heads for the stairwell. We passed each other on the stairwell when I was walking up. I guess he got a good look at me, too, and figured my size and stature wasn't worth the potential trouble -- not saying I could've taken him for certain, but I would not have been an easy mark for him.
When I got in the room I confirmed what I wanted as we previously discussed which was two BBBJs. She agreed, took the money and put it in the giant safe in the room. I got a little nervous at this point, but figured I might as well have gone through with it. I got comfortable, she got on her knees, and gave a pretty rough BBBJ with kungfu grip but she was committed to it at least. I blew one load in her mouth, told her she could take a 2 min breather, then she got back to work. She tried to quit midway through the second, I placed my hand on her head and told her I wasn't done and she obediently obliged until she got the second load.
I wouldn't repeat knowing what I know now, and her tight grip while sucking a dick, but I am glad that I dodged that bullet back then, ha.I dreamed of her a few times and never had a problem, however this was a few years ago. All of my dreams happened in the car so that might be why I dodged the bullet. She used to go by M $ Bunny White or Kim Williams? And previously went on a state sponsored vacation for stealing cash and physically assaulting a guy with her pimp. She has fallen on hard times, so definitely stay clear of this one.
https://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/harmony-s-back/717523411341
Heads up gentlemen, this one is posting again and there's a warning about ripoff scam.
https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/harmony---kayla-5716771784-362000She did a Cash and Dash on me a while back then dropped out of sight.
Hunter has a new ad in Woodbridge. There are 0 reports of anyone having a good time with her but several reports of people being robbed or attempted to be robbed by a group of men because of her.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/washington-dc/female-escorts/caucasian_e/new-girlnew-city-who-needs-new/758746467438
Hunter has a new ad in Woodbridge. There are 0 reports of anyone having a good time with her but several reports of people being robbed or attempted to be robbed by a group of men because of her.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/washington-dc/female-escorts/caucasian_e/new-girlnew-city-who-needs-new/758746467438Thanks for sharing this with us.
ShootAndRoll
01-11-23, 10:28
I went to see Brooklynn. When I get to her in call in Springfield, she tells me she has to go pay for the room. I told her I would just wait in the lobby. She says she needs just a few minutes. The next thing I know, she texts me she had to walk over to another hotel and take care of something. 45 minutes passes and then I leave. She quits responding. I asked a fellow monger to send her a text. She responds to him. She doesn't answer my phone calls. She doesn't respond to my texts. I told her I was going to write this review and she tells me her phone died. She responded to my friend. I asked her if she was going to resolve the situation and she quits responding. She's got a candy problem. I suspected she went to see her dope boy. Be advised this one's going to rip you off.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/washi...-/602671299335
SaneClownPosse
01-14-23, 01:00
Anybody use this agency before?
http://www.5starcompanions.com/
Looks extremely fake. No way they have model tier girls when the 600 dollar girls in the area are uglier and more expensive.
Anybody use this agency before?
http://www.5starcompanions.com/
Anybody use this agency before?
http://www.5starcompanions.com/They've been around for decades and I've never once seen a positive report about them. I think they run the show up and demand money for time while not providing any service scam thing, but honestly whatever it was exactly I can't remember. I'd avoid.
I just got scammed out of a deposit (before you burn me all my previous deposit-required experiences have been positive) https://tryst.link/escort/alirose . I got text prove.
You don't think its odd that she is hopping cities every 2-4 days? You know why they do that right? So they show up as local to guys all over the US. That's usually my red flag for a scammer. Legit providers don't "tour" that many cities in a year. Also this isn't to attack you. Just my PSA to avoid anyone that is touring a new city everyday.
I just got scammed out of a deposit (before you burn me all my previous deposit-required experiences have been positive) https://tryst.link/escort/alirose . I got text prove.
You don't think its odd that she is hopping cities every 2-4 days? You know why they do that right? So they show up as local to guys all over the US. That's usually my red flag for a scammer. Legit providers don't "tour" that many cities in a year. Also this isn't to attack you. Just my PSA to avoid anyone that is touring a new city everyday.Wow, had to chuckle when reading this as I just posted similar comment in the Escort forum with question to the more experienced members.
I am seeing it mostly on Listcrawler sites, but am sure others do it too. On Sunday was prowling for some fun while visiting another city. I found every ad that I responded to wanted a deposit (which ended conversation). Checked these ads again, clicked on "reviews," then "old posts. " Every ad that wanted a deposit ad multiple ads for same day but listed different cities (some hundreds of miles apart).
Checked local ads on Listcrawler and found same thing going on.
Definitely a big Red Flag to ignore and keep looking.
Looks extremely fake. No way they have model tier girls when the 600 dollar girls in the area are uglier and more expensive.I made the mistake of seeing someone from "5 star" about a decade ago before I knew any better. The offered an "escort". Met her an her apartment. She ask to briefly see my I'd, and then took a pic of it. She then said it was $250 an hour,. But no touching and certainly no sex. We could just talk only since she was an "escort" and not a "prostitute. " I asked for the return of my cash. She refused, and indicated that if I caused a problems, "they" would release my personal details to my family. She claimed to have cameras that recorded our entire interaction. Be careful with them.
TOFTT while knowing there were no reviews and only 1 new add up. I was hoping she was new to the game and possibly a diamond in the rough. Texted and got rates, set up a meet in Herndon where once I arrived and asked for the room number she began the typical scam, stating she only takes paypal, venmo or gift cards, no cash. I said bye and hit up old reliable right down the street. I texted her again later and said "thanks for wasting mine and your time, wish you had stated that in the add or at least while texting like most scammers. " Posting to save others time and a reminder how the scams work.
https://hot.com/us/va/herndon/escorts/gallery/1-901-554-9166/m-VYJr
SuperJimmy
04-04-23, 11:40
When visiting a new escort, try to have a reliable backup ready to go in case of any type of mess from the new escort.
Well played, VAPlay.
Happy hunting!
SJ.
TOFTT while knowing there were no reviews and only 1 new add up. I was hoping she was new to the game and possibly a diamond in the rough. Texted and got rates, set up a meet in Herndon where once I arrived and asked for the room number she began the typical scam, stating she only takes paypal, venmo or gift cards, no cash. I said bye and hit up old reliable right down the street. I texted her again later and said "thanks for wasting mine and your time, wish you had stated that in the add or at least while texting like most scammers. " Posting to save others time and a reminder how the scams work.
https://hot.com/us/va/herndon/escorts/gallery/1-901-554-9166/m-VYJr
BubbleBobble
04-09-23, 20:00
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/126246120
Easy to set up, even facetime through google meet to verify it's who they say they are.
I get there and she said "call when you're here", but I just happen to see her outside so I go to say hi.
She's outside smoking with her friends and get a room key from one of them to head on up.
We get to the room she says get comfy and place the dono on the table.
Just went for a QV so I set the donation down and get undressed, and she does the same.
Starts with poor CBJ enough to get ready, has me stand for k9.
Kinda tries to force it in w / o lube and complains about a "latex allergy".
She says she has non-latex in her room, so she'll get the other key and switch rooms. I get dressed and she grabs the dono, "meet me on the 4th floor".
Big surprise I never saw her.
Live and learn I suppose, here's to hoping nobody else falls for it.
MikeWhiskey
05-23-23, 14:10
Watch out for this one fellas. Her and her crackhead Pimp robbed a friend of mine at gunpoint.
https://sumosear.ch/phone/540-690-4877
Watch out for this one fellas. Her and her crackhead Pimp robbed a friend of mine at gunpoint.
https://sumosear.ch/phone/540-690-4877I have seen her dozens of times all with no issues. I have run into her bf several times too again with no issues. Scary stuff tho.
Heads up to anyone in nova, if you come across this girl:
https://adultsearch.com/us/virginia/fairfax/female-escorts/3132886
Its a scam. Agreed on $.5 for hour, go to designated place, get asked to get a gift card instead (to be handed over after the session). I get one, not thinking anything of it. When I arrive, she demands I send a picture of the back or she won't come outside and meet me / send room #. Refused to verify over snapchat video call, and refused any alternatives. Claimed it wasn't a scam because I could keep the pin code hidden, and she needed to see the back to ensure I wouldn't return the card after. At that point I realized its a scam and so didn't send a pic of the back. I'm not exactly sure how the scam works but its obviously a scam. Now I'm stuck with a useless gift card I don't need.
Heads up to anyone in nova, if you come across this girl:
https://adultsearch.com/us/virginia/fairfax/female-escorts/3132886
Its a scam. Agreed on $.5 for hour, go to designated place, get asked to get a gift card instead (to be handed over after the session). I get one, not thinking anything of it. When I arrive, she demands I send a picture of the back or she won't come outside and meet me / send room #. Refused to verify over snapchat video call, and refused any alternatives. Claimed it wasn't a scam because I could keep the pin code hidden, and she needed to see the back to ensure I wouldn't return the card after. At that point I realized its a scam and so didn't send a pic of the back. I'm not exactly sure how the scam works but its obviously a scam. Now I'm stuck with a useless gift card I don't need.Time heals all wounds.
GregIsLong
12-03-23, 23:36
Kinda interest that these 4 providers have the same number.
Victoria.
comeescort@proton.me
Baltimore, Maryland.
530 723 1148.
https://comeescort.weebly.com/
Natalia.
Los Angeles, California (CA), 90012.
nataliamarquez@proton.me.
1-530 723 1148.
https://nataliiamarquez.weebly.com/about.html
Vanessy.
Detroit, Michigan.
8203;vansessy@proton.me.
+1-530 723 1148.
https://vanseessy.weebly.com/
Lilah Ann.
Richmond, VA.
+1-530 723 1148.
https://lilahanne.weebly.com/
TheOuroboros
03-26-24, 15:16
And tricks on how you can spot a scam.
Was perusing the webs when I came across this laughable nugget.
https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/district-of-columbia/washington/bodyrubs/body-rubs/discreet-woman-37183.html
The quote unquote discreet women. A welcoming ad that proudly flaunted a Caucasian woman who was willing to see any lad regardless of age race or gender. No verification, reference, or prerequisite required.
Here are a list of non-exhaustive red flags that you should always be looking out for when confronting a potential scam and inquiring an appt with a provider who may or may not be legit.
1) pictures that are too good to be true. A lot of time, if the provider looks kinda frumpy (maybe chubby, stretch marks on skin, slightly mellow face, scars) chances are she's a legit provider. Because if you were a scam, why the hell wouldn't you use the best pictures or most attractive photos. It's fishing and you want use the best bait to catch all the stupid horny men you can get. I don't find white women all that appealing or attractive so to me I'm not really sure if I'd classify this girl as attractive. Certainly a more mature looking provider which is why I went ahead and sent a text to see if I would get a bite. But regarding below there's way more red flags in this ad one should be cognizant of when attempting to pursue.
2) phone number. Speaking from experience unless a provider is known to travel around to many states (go on tour as they say) then you should always be hesitant when texting a non local number. Most providers I see in nova sport a 571/703/202/240 area code letting me know they are at least located in the DMV. Here is where I should have been suspicious considering the 678 area code. A good rule of thumb if you're unsure would be to pop the number into google as well just to see what kind of traction it gets. If you notice the number pop up on other websites such as bedpage sumo and especially TER chances are the provider is legit and it's not a scam.
3) Pricing. 100$ for a half hour with a white chick is TGTBT. Should have known at this particular point this was a scam, but no harm in trying. Cheap prices for a semi attractive provider should always raise an alarm. That said a good business man can probably find an attractive provider or at least talk the price down a bit so this isnt always a red flag but yeah realistically from a scam perspective listing a high price for service is going to bait less people so.
4) providers have preferences. Scammers have none. Providers may be hesistant to see someone of a certain race and certainly would be fearful of younger men as they don't want to be robbed, sexually assaulted, or worse. Anyone with an ad that proclaims and even openly exclaims like in this case that they'll see just about anyone without a verification or anything should be outright avoided. Scammers are looking to get as many people to take the bait as they can since you have absolutely no intention of seeing the person beyond robbing them of the deposit.
5) if they require a deposit you've heard this board complain time and again about how you should under no circumstance ever and I mean NEVER pay a deposit to a provider. Even if they are legit. I'd rather miss an opportunity to be with a provider than get scammed out of my money AND left with blue balls. Plenty of providers here who are willing to see you without a deposit even if you have to undergo a more extensive verification check.
Now despite the ad saying there was no verification check. When I texted the number the scammer asked for a photo I'd. Fret not gents, Google "man. Selfie" and just pop in the 4th or 5th picture you find or something that closely resembles you. NEVER send a real pic of yourself and of course NEVER use your real number. Burner and fake photo are how I pass all my verifications. Nothing to tie back to you if things go sour and chances are if they say you look different in person just tell them you shaved. (Nobody really gives a fuck what you look like at that point as long as they get paid) providers use fake / altered photos 80% of the time anyway so I simply play the same game.
Once I got "verified" she asked if I wanted outcall or incall (another red flag as normally this will come up in a later conversation) but I said incall. She texted me back and asked me if I knew how the booking works. At this point I knew this wasn't legit but went ahead and played around anyway. I told them no go ahead and give me the rundown. That's when they said a deposit would be required to move onto the next stage and I retorted that I can't do the deposit but I am from the future and would be happy to give them tonight's winning lottery numbers. Suffice to say they weren't interested but hey neither was I.
Just be careful out there I'm sure there's plenty of people that fall for this shit. I know it's hard but don't let the little head win.
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