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Bunker Buster
08-02-15, 20:51
Was wondering if anyone here's got any info Paris, thinking about seeing her next weekend.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-wow-factor-no-1-compares/18499761Step 1: Google phone number.
Step 2: Read results, and notice her website five results from the top.
Step 3: Go to her website.
Step 4: Click on link for Reviews.
Step 5: Read through her 15+ reviews and decide if she fits your requirements.
Step 6: Go see her and file a report here.
Member #6235
08-03-15, 13:42
Hey folks so recently I was in the mood and decided to browse BP for Asian girls, I hated it because its like Russian roulette but I needed to release. Anyways I'm flipping thru ads and googling numbers, and I run across this ad. This number was on TER and very reputable. I go ahead and call, I hear the 2 offers 1/2 for 1. 3 and full is 1. 6, I go ahead and agree to the full and she texts the address, I arrive within 15 min, and call again to confirm and verify my full is a go, she then tells me the room and I proceeded.
I decided to go with the full because TER says she's pretty young and I have a good feeling I want to stay a while a not rushed, due to prev. Good experience with another young cute Asian gal. The mamasan called 2 times and send another client to knock on the door. I did not want that to happen again.
She opens the door and is wearing some sort of linger and her rack looks amazing, she looks like she's in her early 30's. But she was cute. We begin to undress and she starts off with short BJ covered ofcourse. And then begin mish style, I begin plowing away for a while and she then wants to change to dog style xD, I began plowing that way, she enjoyed all of it! I was in and out within 45 min. I will repeat in the near future!
646-881-8952.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/springfield-incall-busty-asian/18498578
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=277320
Member #6235
08-03-15, 13:56
Decided to look for provider in landmark vicinity, I stumble on this ad this was a while back.
202-848-9341.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/available-now-visiting-your-best-kept-secret-amazing-skills-incall-specials/18522795
And I called to get rate and addy, it took 15 min to text the addy, I arrive in the lot, it was a ghost town. I called 3 times but no answer. I have waited for about 15 min and I left, I saw LEO pull into the lot slowly. As I was leaving the lot I was like WTF (I'm so lucky), so I have a good feeling this is a sting ops, so I decided to go along with it. She called back and told me the room number and asks if I was LEO and I was like no and she was like great I'm not a LEO too. So she tells me the room #, I said great I'm coming, she says call me when your coming up the stairs I said okay and hung up. I went into another hotel next to it on a high floor, overlooking the LEO motel. She calls me back after 5 min and says where are you, and I hear people in the background. I say hey I'm on the back side of the motel. Wait for me. And I stayed on the line. And once I said I am now climbing up the front side of the motel stairs and she hanged up, the LEO zoomed exactly to the stairwell and I was laughing so hard in the other hotel. I then call back and say this is officer "" from another county LEO who is working this area who is the officer running this operations. She hangs up and I begin to harass the number. LOL.
Please stay safe everyone, I think you can be charged with "Solicitation" even if you don't go! Please use a prepaid number or something!
Randy Farang
08-03-15, 15:48
Step 1: Google phone number.
Step 2: Read results, and notice her website five results from the top.
Step 3: Go to her website.
Step 4: Click on link for Reviews.
Step 5: Read through her 15+ reviews and decide if she fits your requirements.
Step 6: Go see her and file a report here.Somewhere Trashman is shaking his head wondering what has happened to the standards here. He must be thinking that flamethrowers have gone out of fashion.
Bunker Buster
08-03-15, 17:41
Somewhere Trashman is shaking his head wondering what has happened to the standards here. He must be thinking that flamethrowers have gone out of fashion.Are frowned upon in this establishment. LOL.
BigPoppa2308
08-03-15, 19:31
Went to visit Nina recently as she is visiting the NoVa area. Google the name and her website comes up first thing. Gents, I cannot stress enough to stay away! I had what is probably one of the my worst personal experiences in this game. Not to mention she has the audacity to charge outrageous prices for her highly restricted service and horrible demeanor.
From the top: I checked out her ad on BP as she was advertising specials because there was no way I was paying her website prices since she clearly states she does not do GFE. Just as an example, her going rate is $3. 0 for the hour and a single pop! I asked, just for kicks, what a second round comes to and it is $4. 5. I just had to laugh at that. Anyway, I called and opted for her half hour special ($1. 2) since she sounded super sweet on the phone (I would later find out its part of her act). A somewhat inconvenient 3 call system involving neighborhood, street, and finally, location, got me to her. When she opened the door I wasn't surprised because her pics are an accurate representation but I will say she is pretty tall. The usual up front small talk happened but the whole time there was not a single smile or warmth to her voice. A complete turnaround from the persona she played on the phone. After a couple minutes of a covered warm up she rushed me and said to do it from behind. There was no option for anything else. She didn't allow any touching or a mouth or tongue on any part of her. It seemed as if she was disgusted with both herself and me just with my mere presence in the room let alone what I was there for. She groaned when I asked if we could switch to mish after a few minutes. She agreed but then got upset when I blocked her view of the tv! So she repositioned herself so she wouldn't even have to look at me and just watched tv while I was doing my best to finish as fast as I could and get the hell out of there. Sure we've all had our share of varying levels of service but nothing like that had happened to me before. Needless to say, I finished but left very unsatisfied. Just before I left she answered a call and went right back to the sweet voice that got me interested in the first place. My guess is the same thing was going to happen when that guy walked into her place. I just hope there hasn't been some poor guy who paid for her full hour, or even worse the multi-pop hour. As far as I'm concerned, with her level of service, she should be offering $. 6 specials at most. As with everything, I would venture to say YMMV but with her I am fairly certain most of the experiences are largely the same.
Hope this helps some of you avoid a bad apple.
Decided to look for provider in landmark vicinity, I stumble on this ad this was a while back.
202-848-9341.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/available-now-visiting-your-best-kept-secret-amazing-skills-incall-specials/18522795
And I called to get rate and addy, it took 15 min to text the addy, I arrive in the lot, it was a ghost town. I called 3 times but no answer. I have waited for about 15 min and I left, I saw LEO pull into the lot slowly. As I was leaving the lot I was like WTF (I'm so lucky), so I have a good feeling this is a sting ops, so I decided to go along with it. She called back and told me the room number and asks if I was LEO and I was like no and she was like great I'm not a LEO too. So she tells me the room #, I said great I'm coming, she says call me when your coming up the stairs I said okay and hung up. I went into another hotel next to it on a high floor, overlooking the LEO motel. She calls me back after 5 min and says where are you, and I hear people in the background. I say hey I'm on the back side of the motel. Wait for me. And I stayed on the line. And once I said I am now climbing up the front side of the motel stairs and she hanged up, the LEO zoomed exactly to the stairwell and I was laughing so hard in the other hotel. I then call back and say this is officer "" from another county LEO who is working this area who is the officer running this operations. She hangs up and I begin to harass the number. LOL.
Please stay safe everyone, I think you can be charged with "Solicitation" even if you don't go! Please use a prepaid number or something!Thanks for the Intel. I might have guessed she is Thai, Kai is a common name, it means Egg. LOL.
Decided to look for provider in landmark vicinity, I stumble on this ad this was a while back.
202-848-9341.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/available-now-visiting-your-best-kept-secret-amazing-skills-incall-specials/18522795
And I called to get rate and addy, it took 15 min to text the addy, I arrive in the lot, it was a ghost town. I called 3 times but no answer. I have waited for about 15 min and I left, I saw LEO pull into the lot slowly. As I was leaving the lot I was like WTF (I'm so lucky), so I have a good feeling this is a sting ops, so I decided to go along with it. She called back and told me the room number and asks if I was LEO and I was like no and she was like great I'm not a LEO too. So she tells me the room #, I said great I'm coming, she says call me when your coming up the stairs I said okay and hung up. I went into another hotel next to it on a high floor, overlooking the LEO motel. She calls me back after 5 min and says where are you, and I hear people in the background. I say hey I'm on the back side of the motel. Wait for me. And I stayed on the line. And once I said I am now climbing up the front side of the motel stairs and she hanged up, the LEO zoomed exactly to the stairwell and I was laughing so hard in the other hotel. I then call back and say this is officer "" from another county LEO who is working this area who is the officer running this operations. She hangs up and I begin to harass the number. LOL.
Please stay safe everyone, I think you can be charged with "Solicitation" even if you don't go! Please use a prepaid number or something!
Thanks for the Intel. I might have guessed she is Thai, Kai is a common name, it means Egg. LOL.http://statelaws.findlaw.com/virginia-law/virginia-prostitution-and-solicitation-laws.html
The essential element in most prostitution related statutes is the exchange of something of value (money, property, etc.) for sexual activity. That's why in LEO stings, whether posing as a SW or a BP escort, the key component is to get the client so say something that can be construed as sex for $. Catching you in the stairwell before you even meet the girl would be a hard sell to a judge.
One other reason I doubt this was a sting is because, if LEO was really trying to nail you, they'd be much more careful about background noise and allowing themselves to be seen. They do this on a regular basis and are good enough at it that mongers who think with the little head are generally in cuffs before they know what hit them.
Since Landmark has a ton of providers working that area, it wouldn't be surprising to see LEO activity for any number of reasons. And the background noise could have been the girl's "manager" or another provider sharing the room.
Calling back and pretending your also LEO doesn't reveal much because either way she's going to hang up on you. If she's legit she hangs up because she's freaked out and if it's a sting she hangs up because no real LEO would call in on a line that's obviously been set up for the sting.
All that being said, thinking with the big head should advise all to steer clear of new, unverified or unreviewed providers. I know a lot of hobbyists get an adrenaline rush chasing after the newest ads with the hottest pics. But a lot of those pics are fake and you're more likely to get bait and switch or crap service than anything else. Or, of course, it also could be a sting but, if so, it would probably be much more professional and effective than what you described.
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/virginia-law/virginia-prostitution-and-solicitation-laws.html
The essential element in most prostitution related statutes is the exchange of something of value (money, property, etc.) for sexual activity. That's why in LEO stings, whether posing as a SW or a BP escort, the key component is to get the client so say something that can be construed as sex for $. Catching you in the stairwell before you even meet the girl would be a hard sell to a judge.
One other reason I doubt this was a sting is because, if LEO was really trying to nail you, they'd be much more careful about background noise and allowing themselves to be seen. They do this on a regular basis and are good enough at it that mongers who think with the little head are generally in cuffs before they know what hit them.There is VA Code § 18.2-347 (2014) - Keeping, residing in, or visiting a bawdy house. A bawdy house is any location where prostitution or assignation occurs. I personally know providers that have been charged for this, simply because LE suspects that they are at a particular hotel for prostitution. (I said charged, I don't know whether they have been convicted). I believe that the "visiting" of a bawdy house is the equivalent of assignation in MD.
I think that the important take away from this is that the provider had ads listed in many different states, over a period of at least a month. This tells me that if it is LE, they are using much more forethought in making their ads look more legit.
I agree with JMSuttr 100% - LE is generally not sloppy with stings and they normally don't place an ad or give out the address until they are already set up at a particular location. Moreover, LE watches the parking lot. If it were LE and a person was considered to be a legit caller, then LE would have been on the look-out for cars in the parking lot, noticed a car drive up and leave the parking lot, and likely observed that the person drove next door (particularly considering that the parking lot was empty). I am not in a position to question anyone, and I don't want to start anything, but that story is just unbelievable. However, if it is true, then you have a huge set on you to fuck around with LE, impersonate an officer concerning an ongoing investigation / police operation, and continue to call the number.
Member #6235
08-04-15, 18:08
Well it was seemed like a operation. 1 LE in the car, 1 LE sitting on the stairwell, and maybe 2+ in the room. All I know is that I was technically the ONLY active person in the lot with about 4 cars in the lot. And if I were to have gone thru the process, I would have been stopped by them and most likely arrested or issued a summons for a misdemeanor. Because as soon as I said I was coming up the stairs the LE car zoomed DIRECTLY to the stairwell. , Quite frankly I do not care, what I say to that number especially if they are not who they say they are. I could impersonate or joke around, but I wouldn't say there is a bomb at the motel. Not trying to get FBI involved they could possibly find me with metadata.
I weighed it on my personal probability / possibility, I tell you. I have waited a good amount of time for her to get ready.
I know you might think I'm some noob with little amount of post but trust me on this, all I am trying to give is a warning.
JmSuttr and DoeSurfer if you think it was not a sting would you have gone thru?
The ad is still up, I may do this again and record it on video for proof.
These are the dates and cities for Kai's phone numbers other ads. Doubt she actually travels that much.
Northern Virginia, Landmark and Surrounding.
Wednesday, July 22,2015.
San Antonio, Downtown area.
Monday, July 27,2015.
Central Jersey.
Thursday, July 30,2015.
Seattle, Seatac, South Tukwila.
Tuesday, August 4, 2015.
Safe to say it's not the girl.
I saw a girl using the same pic with different name. Whether or not that is the same person or LEO, I've no idea.
As for Suspect's post, I take it with caution. His posts are quite immature.
These are the dates and cities for Kai's phone numbers other ads. Doubt she actually travels that much.
Northern Virginia, Landmark and Surrounding.
Wednesday, July 22,2015.
San Antonio, Downtown area.
Monday, July 27,2015.
Central Jersey.
Thursday, July 30,2015.
Seattle, Seatac, South Tukwila.
Tuesday, August 4, 2015.
Well it was seemed like a operation. 1 LE in the car, 1 LE sitting on the stairwell, and maybe 2+ in the room. All I know is that I was technically the ONLY active person in the lot with about 4 cars in the lot. And if I were to have gone thru the process, I would have been stopped by them and most likely arrested or issued a summons for a misdemeanor. Because as soon as I said I was coming up the stairs the LE car zoomed DIRECTLY to the stairwell. , Quite frankly I do not care, what I say to that number especially if they are not who they say they are. I could impersonate or joke around, but I wouldn't say there is a bomb at the motel. Not trying to get FBI involved they could possibly find me with metadata.
I weighed it on my personal probability / possibility, I tell you. I have waited a good amount of time for her to get ready.
I know you might think I'm some noob with little amount of post but trust me on this, all I am trying to give is a warning.
JmSuttr and DoeSurfer if you think it was not a sting would you have gone thru?
The ad is still up, I may do this again and record it on video for proof.First point: I wouldn't have been in that situation in the first place since I make it a habit to only see providers with positive reviews, positive comments on the board or recommendations received via PM. It's called homework.
Second point: I wasn't there and really don't care, one way or the other. But the fact remains that the gold standard of any sting is to get the client on tape talking about $ for sex. IMHO, your concerns about being arrested at some point BEFORE you got into room are overblown. I'm all for raising red flags when warranted but this doesn't seem to be one of those situations. I will repeat my warning, however, that it's best to steer clear of these kinds of ads until more intel is developed. The odds of finding a gem are slim while the odds of having a negative experience are high.
Finally, my point about the phone call was simply that there was no point to it. The fact she hung up doesn't reveal anything of consequence. And now you propose to go back and shoot a video? Really?
Decided to look for provider in landmark vicinity, I stumble on this ad this was a while back.
202-848-9341.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/available-now-visiting-your-best-kept-secret-amazing-skills-incall-specials/18522795
And I called to get rate and addy, it took 15 min to text the addy, I arrive in the lot, it was a ghost town. I called 3 times but no answer. I have waited for about 15 min and I left, I saw LEO pull into the lot slowly. As I was leaving the lot I was like WTF (I'm so lucky), so I have a good feeling this is a sting ops, so I decided to go along with it. She called back and told me the room number and asks if I was LEO and I was like no and she was like great I'm not a LEO too. So she tells me the room #, I said great I'm coming, she says call me when your coming up the stairs I said okay and hung up. I went into another hotel next to it on a high floor, overlooking the LEO motel. She calls me back after 5 min and says where are you, and I hear people in the background. I say hey I'm on the back side of the motel. Wait for me. And I stayed on the line. And once I said I am now climbing up the front side of the motel stairs and she hanged up, the LEO zoomed exactly to the stairwell and I was laughing so hard in the other hotel. I then call back and say this is officer "" from another county LEO who is working this area who is the officer running this operations. She hangs up and I begin to harass the number. LOL.
Please stay safe everyone, I think you can be charged with "Solicitation" even if you don't go! Please use a prepaid number or something!If she called you back, that means they have your #. Even if you are using an app, they can still get your IP, then you name. You also stated you were a LEO and then harrassed the #. You better hope it was not a sting, if it was, I would be prepared to have police show up at your house.
JmSuttr and DoeSurfer if you think it was not a sting would you have gone thru?Nowadays, I wouldn't see anyone on BP that has not been reviewed by a trusted source. It is not worth it. However, it is obvious that you had reservations about the situation, which is why you took precautions. If you have concerns, then you shouldn't visit.
Cowboy Wilson
08-06-15, 22:19
The pics belong to Courtney Tailor. Big time poster on instagram. Hot girl but highly unlikely she is hanging around alexandria turning tricks for $ quick. http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-in-town-busty-blonde-barbie-new-pics-fetih-friendly/18721578.
Bunker Buster
08-06-15, 23:44
Most of her pix only bring up her 502 area code ads, but a search of pix used in her other ads brings up a hit with all of the pix. There are also pix of other girls in the same room. Notice the same Klimt-stye painting on the wall.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/my-passion-is-your-pleasure-never-a-tease-i-always-aim-to-please/18713767
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/502-229-0228/1/261504
http://www.imagefap.com/pictures/5277154/thediggitydank-pink
http://www.poringa.net/posts/imagenes/2530580/Humeda.html
Well it was seemed like a operation. 1 LE in the car, 1 LE sitting on the stairwell, and maybe 2+ in the room. All I know is that I was technically the ONLY active person in the lot with about 4 cars in the lot. And if I were to have gone thru the process, I would have been stopped by them and most likely arrested or issued a summons for a misdemeanor. Because as soon as I said I was coming up the stairs the LE car zoomed DIRECTLY to the stairwell. , Quite frankly I do not care, what I say to that number especially if they are not who they say they are. I could impersonate or joke around, but I wouldn't say there is a bomb at the motel. Not trying to get FBI involved they could possibly find me with metadata.
I weighed it on my personal probability / possibility, I tell you. I have waited a good amount of time for her to get ready.
I know you might think I'm some noob with little amount of post but trust me on this, all I am trying to give is a warning.
JmSuttr and DoeSurfer if you think it was not a sting would you have gone thru?
The ad is still up, I may do this again and record it on video for proof.I'd like to add:
When the girl called you back asking where you were, why couldn't you have just said; "I'm hanging back. I see some police activity near the entrance of the motel. "? If she was ULE she would have hung up, but if she was a provider, she would have thanked you and asked you to wait or nix the session altogether. Same result.
Now, if by chance you do get caught by LEO in the hallway, the worst they could do right then is ask you where you're going. After all, how would they know that YOU'RE the one who called the number? Do they have the right to confiscate your phone? "Um, what phone?" Get your I'd? "Um, I left it in the car. ".
So when they asked why you were there, you would have responded:
"I'm in room xxx, but I lost my room key. Someone from staff is supposed to let me in. I'd better go downstairs and check again. ".
"I'm visiting a friend. But I forgot what room. I think I'm on the wrong floor. ".
"I was coming off the highway and was looking for an ATM, a restroom, directions, etc. ".
"I was about to check in and was just looking around. Why? What's going on?
Any other questions from them, repeat or shut up completely, I don't care how nervous you look. If they didn't believe you, the worst they would have done was make you leave. Same result.
Think about it, are the police going to wrestle you to the ground just for walking around, and risk freaking out the other guests? Does the (h) motel want their guests to see that?
Point is, there's so many things you could have done besides what you finally ended up doing. I certainly wouldn't taunt someone from my number unless I was planning on changing it or it was a throwaway phone. You just gave them a reason to f- with you. Hope you don't get blacklisted, or have a wife / gf get access to that phone.
Went to visit Nina recently as she is visiting the NoVa area. Google the name and her website comes up first thing. Gents, I cannot stress enough to stay away! I had what is probably one of the my worst personal experiences in this game. Not to mention she has the audacity to charge outrageous prices for her highly restricted service and horrible demeanor.
From the top: I checked out her ad on BP as she was advertising specials because there was no way I was paying her website prices since she clearly states she does not do GFE. Just as an example, her going rate is $3. 0 for the hour and a single pop! I asked, just for kicks, what a second round comes to and it is $4. 5. I just had to laugh at that. Anyway, I called and opted for her half hour special ($1. 2) since she sounded super sweet on the phone (I would later find out its part of her act). A somewhat inconvenient 3 call system involving neighborhood, street, and finally, location, got me to her. When she opened the door I wasn't surprised because her pics are an accurate representation but I will say she is pretty tall. The usual up front small talk happened but the whole time there was not a single smile or warmth to her voice. A complete turnaround from the persona she played on the phone. After a couple minutes of a covered warm up she rushed me and said to do it from behind. There was no option for anything else. She didn't allow any touching or a mouth or tongue on any part of her. It seemed as if she was disgusted with both herself and me just with my mere presence in the room let alone what I was there for. She groaned when I asked if we could switch to mish after a few minutes. She agreed but then got upset when I blocked her view of the tv! So she repositioned herself so she wouldn't even have to look at me and just watched tv while I was doing my best to finish as fast as I could and get the hell out of there. Sure we've all had our share of varying levels of service but nothing like that had happened to me before. Needless to say, I finished but left very unsatisfied. Just before I left she answered a call and went right back to the sweet voice that got me interested in the first place. My guess is the same thing was going to happen when that guy walked into her place. I just hope there hasn't been some poor guy who paid for her full hour, or even worse the multi-pop hour. As far as I'm concerned, with her level of service, she should be offering $. 6 specials at most. As with everything, I would venture to say YMMV but with her I am fairly certain most of the experiences are largely the same.
Hope this helps some of you avoid a bad apple.BigPoppa, I appreciate your review, but I have trouble believing that she was terrible across the board. Some of your review seems embellished.
Regardless, you've learned to heed the warnings of your intuition: You should be wary of a provider that offers a wide range in price points from ss to hh, from hh to fh, etc. If her hh was $1. 2, her fh should not have been $3. 0; more like $2. 4. And then a second pop was $. 5 extra?
You think you're getting a deal by going for the cheapest rate, but 8 out of 10 you'll end up wasting your time. You will never get your money's worth.
Give you an example:
A popular Asian provider recently quoted me $1. 25 ss and $2. 0 for hh, way more than BP standard. Can't knock the hustle, but her focus is on that hh. So for ss, expect a rush-rush session with a bunch of rules and restrictions. When these girls charge overinflated rates, settling for their cheapest is usually going to leave you disappointed.
WebDog2015
08-08-15, 13:37
I only do $60 deal, so I am willing to accept the hit-or-miss consequences of that.
There have been a series of ads for $60 latinas in Manassas (not the same ones in Falls Church or Merrifield, which look similar).
They were in Herndon before for a few weeks, then have moved to the Red Roof Inn in Manassas (and it seems they're not the only ones working out of there).
Here are three ads for the same outfit (maybe different providers but the same woman / manager will answer).
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-sexy-latina-special-60/15568847
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/newandlatina-call-mespecial-60/7522610
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-hondurea-special-60/15559509
Went earlier in the week, and had minimal problems. Got the room number and the older provider (unlike as described but that is par for the course) had a face that is hard to love, but DAMN that body. Was well work the trip for the body. Great CBJ and hit it doggie. Ass that was unbelievably good, and she really got into it. Great attitude.
Figured I wouldn't see her again, then 2 days later, that ass was calling my name.
So I called and said I'd be there in an hour. Called when I arrived, and spent 45 minutes or more getting the run-around.
I could see the manager up on the balcony and she would answer the phone I called, but was bullshtting me ("I will call you back in 2 min" etc). I didn't get out and see her in person as it seemed like something was up. The 'senior manager' I suspect came and went in a pimped out S-class Mercedes, and I saw a similar out of place looking 7 series BMW there in front on of the room on my first trip. So I ended up leaving frustrated.
I don't know what is up with these putas but I always have a hard time seeing the same provider twice (as in it has NEVER happened!
Bunker Buster
08-08-15, 18:18
Now, if by chance you do get caught by LEO in the hallway, the worst they could do right then is ask you where you're going. After all, how would they know that YOU'RE the one who called the number? Do they have the right to confiscate your phone? "Um, what phone?" Get your I'd? "Um, I left it in the car. ".
So when they asked why you were there, you would have responded:
"I'm in room xxx, but I lost my room key. Someone from staff is supposed to let me in. I'd better go downstairs and check again. ".
"I'm visiting a friend. But I forgot what room. I think I'm on the wrong floor. ".
"I was coming off the highway and was looking for an ATM, a restroom, directions, etc. ".
"I was about to check in and was just looking around. Why? What's going on?
Any other questions from them, repeat or shut up completely.
If Uncle LEO verifies with the front desk that you're not a registered guest, the lie you told them opens the door for them to put you through the wringer.
18.2-460 Obstructing justice;
Any person who knowingly and willfully makes any materially false statement or representation to a law-enforcement officer ...who is in the course of conducting an investigation of a crime by another is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor."I'm looking for an ATM" doesn't explain why you're in a motel hallway. Cops are trained to draw out false statements then to use them against you. Keep it simple and innocuous; the more you try to explain yourself, the worse it's going to get.
"I'm visiting a friend" will lead to the follow-up question "what's your friend's name?
It's better to say nothing, or at most, that you don't answer questions without an attorney present. Saying something that can easily be disproved will get you charged, and enable them to search you, your car, and your phone.
Roamin Roman
08-09-15, 03:55
If Uncle LEO verifies with the front desk that you're not a registered guest, the lie you told them opens the door for them to put you through the wringer.
"I'm looking for an ATM" doesn't explain why you're in a motel hallway. Cops are trained to draw out false statements then to use them against you. Keep it simple and innocuous; the more you try to explain yourself, the worse it's going to get.
"I'm visiting a friend" will lead to the follow-up question "what's your friend's name?
It's better to say nothing, or at most, that you don't answer questions without an attorney present. Saying something that can easily be disproved will get you charged, and enable them to search you, your car, and your phone.I have to agree wholeheartedly with BB.
Never provide verifiably false information to LEO. If you are stopped by a LEO in a motel hallway, one of the first things you ought to ask is "What's going on, officer? What's up?".
If they ask who you are or ask to see your I'd, you generally are not required to provide one for being in a place where the public has general access. So, you should ask "Am I being accused of a crime or being sought for having committed one?" The LEO might try to say, "We don't know until we can verify who you are?" But that's a BS reply, since LEO usually has to provide a specific, articulable reason for requesting your I'd.
If it gets to the point as to why you are in the motel hallway, you can tell them that a friend from out of town asked you about inexpensive motels (tagreplacement5}") and you told him that you'd check them out to see if they were clean, quiet, devoid of shady characters, in a low crime area, etc. If they ask whether the management was aware of your presence, you can answer "No, because I wanted to see the motel on my own. " The most they can do is ask you to leave, or have the management ask you to leave, which you should do.
Under NO circumstances should you get into extended conversation with LEO. The more words exchanged, the higher the risk of something going wrong (for you), as BB notes above.
Brilliant7
08-09-15, 13:18
Nowadays, I wouldn't see anyone on BP that has not been reviewed by a trusted source. It is not worth it. However, it is obvious that you had reservations about the situation, which is why you took precautions. If you have concerns, then you shouldn't visit.Does tosluts.com qualify as "a trusted source?
For example, here is a tosluts review:
http://tosluts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=960171
This girl only works out of Loudoun County, when she is in the area. Looks like she has posted ads in other cities, but she still seems risky to me.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/702-931-7737/1/225662
As in the case above, often times, a tosluts review is the only review for a provider.
Bunker Buster
08-09-15, 16:49
Here are three ads for the same outfit (maybe different providers but the same woman / manager will answer).
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-sexy-latina-special-60/15568847
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/newandlatina-call-mespecial-60/7522610
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-hondurea-special-60/15559509
I could see the manager up on the balcony and she would answer the phone I called, but was bullshtting me ("I will call you back in 2 min" etc). I didn't get out and see her in person as it seemed like something was up. The 'senior manager' I suspect came and went in a pimped out S-class Mercedes, and I saw a similar out of place looking 7 series BMW there in front on of the room on my first trip. So the senior manager drives a pimped-out S-class, his equity partner drives a 7 series, and mid-level management oversees logistics on the production floor from the balcony. I think they should hire you as a consultant to look into why they have so much employee turnover, to improve their call center, and to streamline operations.
Bunker Buster
08-09-15, 20:59
Does tosluts.com qualify as "a trusted source?
For example, here is a tosluts review:
http://tosluts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=960171
As in the case above, often times, a tosluts review is the only review for a provider.The reviews read as though they're computer generated, which they probably are. Way too much praise, too flowery, and always a stellar review. The site exists to draw page views for advertising.
WebDog2015
08-09-15, 23:28
Does tosluts.com qualify as "a trusted source?
For example, here is a tosluts review:
http://tosluts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=960171
This girl only works out of Loudoun County, when she is in the area. Looks like she has posted ads in other cities, but she still seems risky to me.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/702-931-7737/1/225662
As in the case above, often times, a tosluts review is the only review for a provider.No -- it's A bogus site.
I only do $60 deal, so I am willing to accept the hit-or-miss consequences of that.
There have been a series of ads for $60 latinas in Manassas (not the same ones in Falls Church or Merrifield, which look similar).
They were in Herndon before for a few weeks, then have moved to the Red Roof Inn in Manassas (and it seems they're not the only ones working out of there).
Here are three ads for the same outfit (maybe different providers but the same woman / manager will answer).
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-sexy-latina-special-60/15568847
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/newandlatina-call-mespecial-60/7522610
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-hondurea-special-60/15559509
Went earlier in the week, and had minimal problems. Got the room number and the older provider (unlike as described but that is par for the course) had a face that is hard to love, but DAMN that body. Was well work the trip for the body. Great CBJ and hit it doggie. Ass that was unbelievably good, and she really got into it. Great attitude.
Figured I wouldn't see her again, then 2 days later, that ass was calling my name.
So I called and said I'd be there in an hour. Called when I arrived, and spent 45 minutes or more getting the run-around.
I could see the manager up on the balcony and she would answer the phone I called, but was bullshtting me ("I will call you back in 2 min" etc). I didn't get out and see her in person as it seemed like something was up. The 'senior manager' I suspect came and went in a pimped out S-class Mercedes, and I saw a similar out of place looking 7 series BMW there in front on of the room on my first trip. So I ended up leaving frustrated.
I don't know what is up with these putas but I always have a hard time seeing the same provider twice (as in it has NEVER happened!What's up is that many, if not most, of the Latinas are part-timers who work when they need extra money and have some available time, which means they may have no set schedule or rotation. The "manager" is often a friend who speaks good enough english to be able to rent the room and set up the appts. The ad pics are usually generic so you never know who you'll get until you reach the room. Also, they double-book way too often and many times the girls are late getting to the motel as Latinas are notoriously time-challenged and not always very well-organized. Which factor was in play during your visit is hard to say as it could have been any one or a combination.
So my suggestion is exactly the same one I give about the Asian crapshoot ads, namely that if you find a girl you might want to see again the only way to keep track of her is to get her personal digits. Sometimes it's easier than others but IME it usually works if you tell her you would really like to see her again and want to be able to check with her directly as to her schedule. If she gets a good vibe from you she will be more willing to give you the info so it helps to make her feel as safe and comfortable as possible.
Hope your next visit is better!
TL; DR real pictures, decent service, would repeat.
Called Chinese Nancy (http://liverubreviews.com/ad/nova/347-306-7462/1/48627) at 347-306-7462 a little past the advertised time and spoke with her mama. Agreed on 1 hour for for $. 6 and off I went to a hotel just past the chicken wing spot in Centreville. Mama assured me on the phone that the pictures were real, and once inside I was instantly hard when I saw she was telling the truth. Nancy was wearing the lingerie from the pictures, which showed her NATRUAL see cups off. After taking care of business, she got right down to business, stripping and coming back with a hat. Once she was naked it looked like she may have given birth recently, a small belly but didn't detract from her beauty. Proceeded to give a surprisingly good but safe oral session, almost had me bust which is hard to do. Tried to 69 but she denied me, I offered a tip and she refused flat out any extra donation for additional services. Went to town on her in mish though, and she seemed to enjoy herself. Looked so good I was finished about 20 minutes after I arrived. She cleaned me up but made it clear I was not going to be staying for the whole hour. Despite that and the limited menu, she was so sexy and non mechanical that I would highly recommend and will most likely be seeing her again myself.
WebDog2015
08-10-15, 08:31
So the senior manager drives a pimped-out S-class, his equity partner drives a 7 series, and mid-level management oversees logistics on the production floor from the balcony. I think they should hire you as a consultant to look into why they have so much employee turnover, to improve their call center, and to streamline operations.BB, not sure if I am being insulted here or not. Yes I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek with 'senior manager' but I also definitely got the impression he was there taking care of business. Or could have been a coincidence.
JmSuttr, you're right. And if I spoke better Spanish I would have pursued that. I have always believed (from rumors) that there is a suburban El Dorado out there with these latin places, where if you get into the right clique you can find better than decent girls at unheard of prices. I will admit that for my second visit (the one that didn't happen), I picked up a bottle of wine to see if I could ply her a little (was a decent Cab but probably should have been a sixer of Bud Clamato).
Serious or not, BB is right that someone needs to set them straight. Even if you could network your way into a better price, the $60 rate isn't bad for what I am looking for. I wasn't complaining about that and I am rarely disappointed when I make the deal happen. The problem is getting the damn run-around so often. They seem totally indifferent to regulars (at least when it comes to wedos like me).
It may be organized crime on the books, but it seems more like the other kind.
BB, not sure if I am being insulted here or not. Yes I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek with 'senior manager' but I also definitely got the impression he was there taking care of business. Or could have been a coincidence.
JmSuttr, you're right. And if I spoke better Spanish I would have pursued that. I have always believed (from rumors) that there is a suburban El Dorado out there with these latin places, where if you get into the right clique you can find better than decent girls at unheard of prices. I will admit that for my second visit (the one that didn't happen), I picked up a bottle of wine to see if I could ply her a little (was a decent Cab but probably should have been a sixer of Bud Clamato).
Serious or not, BB is right that someone needs to set them straight. Even if you could network your way into a better price, the $60 rate isn't bad for what I am looking for. I wasn't complaining about that and I am rarely disappointed when I make the deal happen. The problem is getting the damn run-around so often. They seem totally indifferent to regulars (at least when it comes to wedos like me).
It may be organized crime on the books, but it seems more like the other kind.Translation app. An absolute must if you are going to see Chinese, Spanish or other foreign language providers with limited English. I guarantee they will have such an app on their phones and hobbyists should also.
Most of these providers usually like it a lot when you make that kind of an effort to communicate with them so it may make them more likely to give you their digits.
A couple of final thoughts: I would skip the wine until you find one you really want to develop as an ATF, and then only after multiple visits. Also, the way they operate is what it is and no one is going to change them. The fact is they are as indifferent to regulars as are the Chinese crapshoot places. When you go you might find a gem or you might get sh*t service, it's all a roll of the dice. Your best shot at getting the best deal is to use the cheap price to find a gem, understanding it may take some time and $, and then getting her digits and developing that relationship. Otherwise, IMHO, it's likely to be an exercise in frustration and more trouble than it's worth.
And no matter how you decide to play you'll still have to put up with the disorganized nature of the Latina operations. It's just the nature of the beast, so no point in letting it get to you.
TL; DR real pictures, decent service, would repeat.
Called Chinese Nancy (http://liverubreviews.com/ad/nova/347-306-7462/1/48627) at 347-306-7462 a little past the advertised time and spoke with her mama. Agreed on 1 hour for for $. 6 and off I went to a hotel just past the chicken wing spot in Centreville. Mama assured me on the phone that the pictures were real, and once inside I was instantly hard when I saw she was telling the truth. Nancy was wearing the lingerie from the pictures, which showed her NATRUAL see cups off. After taking care of business, she got right down to business, stripping and coming back with a hat. Once she was naked it looked like she may have given birth recently, a small belly but didn't detract from her beauty. Proceeded to give a surprisingly good but safe oral session, almost had me bust which is hard to do. Tried to 69 but she denied me, I offered a tip and she refused flat out any extra donation for additional services. Went to town on her in mish though, and she seemed to enjoy herself. Looked so good I was finished about 20 minutes after I arrived. She cleaned me up but made it clear I was not going to be staying for the whole hour. Despite that and the limited menu, she was so sexy and non mechanical that I would highly recommend and will most likely be seeing her again myself.The generic Chinese crapshoot ad providers almost never give you a full hour. It's one and done no matter how long you paid for. The only exception is if you find a gem and after a few visits you start getting GFE sessions. Then the hr might be worth it.
And if you go with the short session, you can usually talk them down $10-$20 in price if it's a slow time and you can get to the place quickly. Don't try that for advance appts because Mamasan probably won't remember you. Once you get to the place and get into the session, you can usually extend without problem if things are going good. But better to deal directly with the girl if you can and not with Mamasan. The girl might decide to call MMS and tell her or the girl might pocket the extra and keep quiet about it. But either way it's only worth doing if the short session really heats up.
TL; DR real pictures, decent service, would repeat.
Called Chinese Nancy (http://liverubreviews.com/ad/nova/347-306-7462/1/48627) at 347-306-7462 a little past the advertised time and spoke with her mama. Agreed on 1 hour for for $. 6 and off I went.......Looked so good I was finished about 20 minutes after I arrived. She cleaned me up but made it clear I was not going to be staying for the whole hour.....I would personally rate this as a bad value. Promised an hour but over and done with in 20 minutes. For 160, I would spend a little more and venture to MD to PG County and hit up one of the places near Greenbelt. At least you would get close to an hour of activities and a decent massage.
Bunker Buster
08-10-15, 14:07
BB, not sure if I am being insulted here or not. Yes I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek with 'senior manager' but I also definitely got the impression he was there taking care of business. Or could have been a coincidence.
Just having some fun with your description and analysis of the operation's management structure.
WebDog2015
08-10-15, 15:34
Just having some fun with your description and analysis of the operation's management structure.Okay, cheers man. No problem.
JmSuttr, I hear you. You can't change the putas or their manager's behavior. The translator isn't a half bad idea. The only thing is that I always walk in with *just* the agreed donation and NOTHING else (no wallet, no phone, no watch, no wedding ring, etc.).
I do bring a bottle of wine more often than not. Most of the time it is well-received. Especially by young Americans or latinas. I have learned to skip it with the Asians (I don't know what to bring them). But a < $10 bottle of decent quality picked up at Safeway Club does seem to buy some goodwill. And I like having something heavy and solid in my hand when I walk in the door.
BTW, wrong thread but speaking of 'senior managers', two weeks ago I setup a date with this one based on the the good reviews of her co-worker and the alleged $20 upsell for a BBBJ.
I drove to her motel in Laurel and circled behind, saw a pimped out F-150 with at least 28" rims and ultra-low profile tires (thing must ride like shit!) with a dude in the dark cab, watching one door to the room she gave me.
So I continued passed, swung around again and backed in so I could watch him and the door, without being too obvious about. I saw "Ms. Scorpion" come out, and she had the crack shakes like I have never seen. She was almost convulsing. A really bad scene. So I took off. Glad I didn't walk on that. Even if he was just minding the store, neither of them is anyone I would want to spend any time with.
http://dc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-to-area-amazing-mouth-piece-super-slippery-funcertified-mixed-freak-5080150/17422703
Guys if you are in the Merrifield RT 50 area and have limited time and funds, I recommend this one. She is nice. I liked her. And would see her again.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/60spthe-best-latinadominican-mamisexybootynice-and-bustyhablo-espaol-incall-only/18579732
EasyEmail786
08-11-15, 18:56
I actually wrote a review on her about 2 or 3 month ago, yeah she is bad deal. Be safe out there guys.
Okay, cheers man. No problem.
JmSuttr, I hear you. You can't change the putas or their manager's behavior. The translator isn't a half bad idea. The only thing is that I always walk in with *just* the agreed donation and NOTHING else (no wallet, no phone, no watch, no wedding ring, etc.).
I do bring a bottle of wine more often than not. Most of the time it is well-received. Especially by young Americans or latinas. I have learned to skip it with the Asians (I don't know what to bring them). But a < $10 bottle of decent quality picked up at Safeway Club does seem to buy some goodwill. And I like having something heavy and solid in my hand when I walk in the door.
BTW, wrong thread but speaking of 'senior managers', two weeks ago I setup a date with this one based on the the good reviews of her co-worker and the alleged $20 upsell for a BBBJ.
I drove to her motel in Laurel and circled behind, saw a pimped out F-150 with at least 28" rims and ultra-low profile tires (thing must ride like shit!) with a dude in the dark cab, watching one door to the room she gave me.
So I continued passed, swung around again and backed in so I could watch him and the door, without being too obvious about. I saw "Ms. Scorpion" come out, and she had the crack shakes like I have never seen. She was almost convulsing. A really bad scene. So I took off. Glad I didn't walk on that. Even if he was just minding the store, neither of them is anyone I would want to spend any time with.
http://dc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-to-area-amazing-mouth-piece-super-slippery-funcertified-mixed-freak-5080150/17422703
EasyEmail786
08-11-15, 19:03
Well last year or so I have tried 2 or 3 provider by trusting too slutcom but here is the deal with the review on there, all the review sounds the same. Its like computer generated. But the only thing I can say was that the provider was legit, but the said she took her time which she didn't. LOL.
The reviews read as though they're computer generated, which they probably are. Way too much praise, too flowery, and always a stellar review. The site exists to draw page views for advertising.
Cowboy Wilson
08-11-15, 21:12
Met Kendra recently http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/tired-of-fakes-real-and-recent/18786248 925-875-8000 . I posted on this girl some time ago when she was going by the name Jenny. Back then she was running fake pics however, the current pics are her. Nice convo, did some catching up. She's been out of the biz on maternity leave. She still looks hot even with the baby weight which is not alot may 10 extra since the last time. Solid performer, gets into it although she still isn't up for BJ. We did some body rubbing which she got into, slid off her black tighty and kissed her all over. Did the mish while she got into it with some good vocals. Then she wanted to get hit from behind. The view was real nice. BTW her cans and her looks are her best assets. At least with me she has a nice easy going attitude, no rush. Afterwards we talked about all the madness that BP is putting everyone through. In particular her adds stopped posting. I asked her why she appeared to be an "over-poster" and she that it is way it is now to stay towards the top. Actually the only way I found this add was to search her name. That's something to think about guys, your ATF might be in town and you wouldn't even know it with all the BP BS. Peace.
WebDog2015
08-11-15, 21:38
Guys if you are in the Merrifield RT 50 area and have limited time and funds, I recommend this one. She is nice. I liked her. And would see her again.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/60spthe-best-latinadominican-mamisexybootynice-and-bustyhablo-espaol-incall-only/18579732That's right up my alley! Glad to hear the positive report. I have called her twice and she has been pretty rude and pensive, asking "what's your race? How old are you?" I have called her 2-3 times and she never texted me the address as agreed.
I will try her again this week. Any other hints you can offer? And how did the cooch smell? (if you say "couldn't smell it" that is good enough for me).
Met Kendra recently http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/tired-of-fakes-real-and-recent/18786248 925-875-8000 . I posted on this girl some time ago when she was going by the name Jenny. Back then she was running fake pics however, the current pics are her. Nice convo, did some catching up. She's been out of the biz on maternity leave. She still looks hot even with the baby weight which is not alot may 10 extra since the last time. Solid performer, gets into it although she still isn't up for BJ. We did some body rubbing which she got into, slid off her black tighty and kissed her all over. Did the mish while she got into it with some good vocals. Then she wanted to get hit from behind. The view was real nice. BTW her cans and her looks are her best assets. At least with me she has a nice easy going attitude, no rush. Afterwards we talked about all the madness that BP is putting everyone through. In particular her adds stopped posting. I asked her why she appeared to be an "over-poster" and she that it is way it is now to stay towards the top. Actually the only way I found this add was to search her name. That's something to think about guys, your ATF might be in town and you wouldn't even know it with all the BP BS. Peace.She's attractive, so that's a plus. She has your recommendation, so that's another big plus. But no BJ is a minus, unfortunately.
So what it comes down to for me is what she charges for the hh and hr.
That's right up my alley! Glad to hear the positive report. I have called her twice and she has been pretty rude and pensive, asking "what's your race? How old are you?" I have called her 2-3 times and she never texted me the address as agreed.
I will try her again this week. Any other hints you can offer? And how did the cooch smell? (if you say "couldn't smell it" that is good enough for me).She is abrupt with the quick questions. I answered: I am not a cop. I am a old horny white guy. She seem to chuckle and relax after that answer. I called when I got to the location and she told me to park in an exact location. I am never real comfy with that. When I did she said come to the second floor and I will open the door. Essentially she did not want to give me the room number, I think this allowed her to see that I truly was an erect old horny white guy, as promised. When she sees the same guy walking by, the door opens. She was the only one in the room.
I worry about cooch smell too and after some extensive pounding there was some, but it seemed to wash off when I cleaned up and I did not detect it later. (I am reminded of an experience with the 48 hour cooch smell from hell. I had to quarantine myself). Anyway I have had MUCH worse for a lot more money.
SuperJimmy
08-12-15, 08:53
Guys if you are in the Merrifield RT 50 area and have limited time and funds, I recommend this one. She is nice. I liked her. And would see her again.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/60spthe-best-latinadominican-mamisexybootynice-and-bustyhablo-espaol-incall-only/18579732Does she look anything like the pics she uses?
Thanks!!
WebDog2015
08-12-15, 12:56
She is abrupt with the quick questions. I answered: I am not a cop. I am a old horny white guy. She seem to chuckle and relax after that answer. I called when I got to the location and she told me to park in an exact location. I am never real comfy with that. When I did she said come to the second floor and I will open the door. Essentially she did not want to give me the room number, I think this allowed her to see that I truly was an erect old horny white guy, as promised. When she sees the same guy walking by, the door opens. She was the only one in the room.
I worry about cooch smell too and after some extensive pounding there was some, but it seemed to wash off when I cleaned up and I did not detect it later. (I am reminded of an experience with the 48 hour cooch smell from hell. I had to quarantine myself). Anyway I have had MUCH worse for a lot more money.Thanks Roger (although I'll assume that's not your actual name.
I am going to give her another shot. Will try to be a little more casual with her on the phone. To SuperJimmy's question, how to true her pictures is she?
I will report back my luck. I did miss a report from the week before last. The "best fuck of my life" report I made, someone used her pics with a similar phone number in the same town. Took a few days to see her, but when I finally got in, it wasn't her. In terms of looks she was about the same my girl, but as far as fuckability it was no comparison. Just the usual where her cooch felt a mile wide and an inch deep. It was no great bargain and the ad was down the next day, so I didn't post about it.
Does she look anything like the pics she uses?
Thanks!!Dynamite larger boobs, great nipples and solid shapely buttocks. Again guys this was a QV, it worked for me. Many are so blah with a hurry up attitude, it is a challenge for my Freddie to stay interested. In this case Freddie liked her a lot. .
EasyEmail786
08-12-15, 19:06
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/costarican-vixonvideo-proof-sexy-upscalelast-night-in-town/18797026
I have been seeing this ad on nova area, she has been moving around, but all these fake ad on BP and she has no review at all.
Any new please post. Really want to see this one.
The USA Adult Classifieds is open for business, make the move now before BP gets closed, you know it's coming.
http://usaadultclassifieds.info
A2
Does tosluts.com qualify as "a trusted source?
For example, here is a tosluts review:
http://tosluts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=960171
This girl only works out of Loudoun County, when she is in the area. Looks like she has posted ads in other cities, but she still seems risky to me.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/702-931-7737/1/225662
As in the case above, often times, a tosluts review is the only review for a provider.Read enough reviews and it won't take long to find identically worded reviews for different providers.
She's attractive, so that's a plus. She has your recommendation, so that's another big plus. But no BJ is a minus, unfortunately.
So what it comes down to for me is what she charges for the hh and hr.No BJ? How are you in this profession and don't give bjs? Sorry, would not care if she was a 10 and only charging $20. Not worth my time.
EasyEmail786
08-13-15, 11:42
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/reviewed-chanel-monae-last-night-dont-miss-out/18240084
Called chanel last night, she was a little away from my usual area, went I had seen her review last month or so in the post here, so I did remember her. Being in BP with those asian ads. Its hard to find a good provider right now. So called she picked up, was very nice on the phone beautiful voice, we setup the time after 30 min later and I drove there, got there text her 5 min before. She said to call when get there. I got the room number it was a nice hotel in manassas. She is a very sexy spinner if you are into that you have to go see her, nice behind just perfect. Smell really good very freindly attitude and she said she might move to SPRINGFIELD today. Any how I got the quick very tight kittly, I asked her to do 69 while BJ she obliged very nice girl you have ask her what else in the menu. I didn't have much time to just took the quick. Must see guys, I love every single minute. Finish doggy by the way LOL.
EasyEmail786
08-13-15, 14:37
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-sweet-bombshell/18818641
Went it and saw totally different girl and much heavier in person. If you are into heavy girls then you can go, but other wise I say no.
Finally had the chance of meeting Chrissy Love. Was hesitant at first since she had no reviews for awhile.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/n1-sexiest-curves-video-proof-bustybig-booty-white-irish-bombshell/18053647
She's def the girl in the video / pics. She's curvy. Not a spinner and not obese. She's closer to her thickest looking photo. She's trying to get a feel for the area so she's been exploring different areas. Couple days in tysons, couple days in crystal city and alexandria. In any case, went to her incall location in alexandria. Hate when sp stay at hotels with expensive paid parking. Got her texts to her room and once inside I was glad it was her, the girl in the pics and person that answered her phone. I usually prefer spinners but she was cute and made me comfy. Never told me anything was off limits and greek is extra with the full hr. Started off with the usual CBJ with full body exploration. A couple diff positions and finished in mish. Cleaned up made small talk and then I was off. I prefer spinners but sometimes variety is good. If you've seen a chihuahua hump a bigger companion before that's me. Enjoyable but I prefer another chihuahua.
WebDog2015
08-13-15, 19:24
Finally had the chance of meeting Chrissy Love. Was hesitant at first since she had no reviews for awhile.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/n1-sexiest-curves-video-proof-bustybig-booty-white-irish-bombshell/18053647
She's def the girl in the video / pics. She's curvy. Not a spinner and not obese. She's closer to her thickest looking photo. She's trying to get a feel for the area so she's been exploring different areas. Couple days in tysons, couple days in crystal city and alexandria. In any case, went to her incall location in alexandria. Hate when sp stay at hotels with expensive paid parking. Got her texts to her room and once inside I was glad it was her, the girl in the pics and person that answered her phone. I usually prefer spinners but she was cute and made me comfy. Never told me anything was off limits and greek is extra with the full hr. Started off with the usual CBJ with full body exploration. A couple diff positions and finished in mish. Cleaned up made small talk and then I was off. I prefer spinners but sometimes variety is good. If you've seen a chihuahua hump a bigger companion before that's me. Enjoyable but I prefer another chihuahua.How much??
Bunker Buster
08-14-15, 02:55
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-sweet-bombshell/18818641
Went it and saw totally different girl and much heavier in person. If you are into heavy girls then you can go, but other wise I say no.Our very own Ernie8 posted a public review of her several months ago saying that she was older and fatter than the pix, that she was flabby, and he wouldn't repeat. A quick Google search of her number would have saved you the time, trouble, money, and disappointment.
WebDog2015
08-14-15, 13:46
Anyone ever see this one? http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/thick-and-juicy-60-specials/9978308.
God bless her for using real pics (at least I hope they're real, man if even those are fake!) But how the hell is she generating any business? $180/ hr? Nothing on the world could get me to do that.
Then there is this one. When I got stood up last week by the putas, I called around for other options.
This on posts the same pics everyday, for weeks if not month. I call her and ask her about the rate. She said "What does my ad say?" And I said it doesn't mention any rates. She asks "What's the title of the ad?" Huh? I dunno. You posted it right? She says "Call me back when you find it. ".
I am halfway thinking "fuck this!" but find the ad as it was still open on my phone. I called back and gave her the title (I think it was different than below) and she says "Oh, it's $100 for HH. " I said okay forget it, I only want to spend $60. And he she is for $65.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/l-_-o-_-v-_-e-_-l-_-y-_-h-_-a-_-n-_-d-_-s/13907078
She sounded interesting on the phone, but I suspect she is game player. Not service-oriented.
Pilot Aviator
08-14-15, 17:43
I had a weekend appt with Nyomi (search BP NoVA or BP DC bodyrubs for advert).
Nyomi is very nice. Her website (and the photos) are accurate.
I enjoyed the experience. FWIW, I'll not repeat only because the price-point is a bitter-pill to take. For whatever reason, a Nuru rub in this area (IDN. Everywhere?) is at least 20% more than a massage experience.
However, for any who want to sample Nuru, the experience with Nyomi is great (for any who remember Nikki Nice, Nyomi's Nuru experience is better).
Always be nice to the ladies.
PA.
Bunker Buster
08-14-15, 19:29
Anyone ever see this one? http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/thick-and-juicy-60-specials/9978308.
God bless her for using real pics (at least I hope they're real, man if even those are fake!) But how the hell is she generating any business? $180/ hr? Nothing on the world could get me to do that.
Then there is this one. When I got stood up last week by the putas, I called around for other options.
This on posts the same pics everyday, for weeks if not month. I call her and ask her about the rate. She said "What does my ad say?" And I said it doesn't mention any rates. She asks "What's the title of the ad?" Huh? I dunno. You posted it right? She says "Call me back when you find it. ".
I am halfway thinking "fuck this!" but find the ad as it was still open on my phone. I called back and gave her the title (I think it was different than below) and she says "Oh, it's $100 for HH. " I said okay forget it, I only want to spend $60. And he she is for $65.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/l-_-o-_-v-_-e-_-l-_-y-_-h-_-a-_-n-_-d-_-s/13907078
She sounded interesting on the phone, but I suspect she is game player. Not service-oriented.It's better to use names, so if the BP ads expire, readers know who you're talking about.
Dreama is indeed nasty. If I absolutely had to hit something and self-service wouldn't do, I'd give her $25 max. On second thought, after seeing this pic, I think I'd rather have a JO-buddy session with you. LOL.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classifieds/EnlargeImage?oid=9978308&image=15919468
Bonita has been discussed here many times. A name search in this thread brings up 30 posts about her dating to 2011.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=1441828
Did you Google search her phone? She has reviews in oThER places as well.
Bunker Buster
08-14-15, 19:57
I hit the point a few days ago where an entire page of the gallery (30 ads) was fake Asian pictures, then yesterday, I hit four pages of fake Asian ads in a row. Overall, including the fake ads with porn and modeling pix, I counted 5 real ads in 6 pages. At times, there are 20-30 new ads per minute going up.
As reported last week, I tried contacting BP to ask them to do something about recognizing and limiting the same pictures, phone numbers, or posts from an IP address, or giving users a Boolean search function (-asian), but I haven't heard back and doubt I ever will.
One strategy to defeat the automated reposting is to jump 7-8 back, then starting looking through the older ads from 2-5 hours ago, rather than the live feed. As the Asian ads are reposted, many of the older ones fall away, giving a higher real-to-Asian ratio.
Also, BP has a bug in their gallery-view software causing readers to see ads from today, yesterday, then falling back to a week earlier, before returning to more-current ads a few pages later.
The Admins push the USA Classifieds, so I check there, but not much is happening yet. I called Alexa, who advertises here and on BP, but found her to be evasive and sketchy on the phone, so I didn't meet her.
http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/-47/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/7413-Alexxa-will-be-your-new-ATF.html
She has one good review, and seems legit, but I didn't get a good feeling so I passed.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/305-764-4840/1/253743
Bunker Buster
08-14-15, 20:34
The Live Escort Reviews gallery pulls the ads from Backpage so you're seeing the same thumbnails, but when you click on one, they show you not only her current ad, but link to all ads with the same phone number. They also go on to image search the pix, and link all other ads with the same pix.
It saves all the time of doing the Google and Image searches yourself.
As a bonus, when you post the inks here, but URL has the phone number built in, which makes the results amenable to searches from within the forum, and through Google.
http://liveescortreviews.com/gallery/nova
She only had hh / hr. Opted for half for $. 5.
How much??
It's better to use names, so if the BP ads expire, readers know who you're talking about.
Dreama is indeed nasty. If I absolutely had to hit something and self-service wouldn't do, I'd give her $25 max. On second thought, after seeing this pic, I think I'd rather have a JO-buddy session with you. LOL.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classifieds/EnlargeImage?oid=9978308&image=15919468
Bonita has been discussed here many times. A name search in this thread brings up 30 posts about her dating to 2011.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=1441828
Did you Google search her phone? She has reviews in oThER places as well.ARGHHH! Dreama made me almost lose my lunch.
I had a weekend appt with Nyomi (search BP NoVA or BP DC bodyrubs for advert).
Nyomi is very nice. Her website (and the photos) are accurate.
I enjoyed the experience. FWIW, I'll not repeat only because the price-point is a bitter-pill to take. For whatever reason, a Nuru rub in this area (IDN. Everywhere?) is at least 20% more than a massage experience.
However, for any who want to sample Nuru, the experience with Nyomi is great (for any who remember Nikki Nice, Nyomi's Nuru experience is better).
Always be nice to the ladies.
PA.Googled her and found a TER thread alleging she uses inferior products. I think I still want to pay a little more and go see Jazz. One of these days I want to see Eleanor. She sounds super hot.
Roamin Roman
08-15-15, 14:12
This ad in the "Women Seeking Men" section piqued my interest, as it has appeared recently and only a couple times. After initial contact and a couple follow-up emails, we set up a meeting time at her mid-scale motel in Springfield, VA. She gave me her room number when I arrived and called. When I walked in, I was met by a freshly-showered BBW, wrapped in a towel, who welcomed me with a DFK.
She loves giving sensual massages, and that is all the $ is for, but my charming personality and engaging conversation led to other activities after she finished. As you can see, a fun time was had by all. She's a BBW, but not in an obese or sloppy way, and on a scale of looks she is not unattractive for her 52 years. She is affectionate, enthusiastic, genuine, sweet, and very responsive. I will very likely repeat.
Seniors, and Regular members who have a history of useful participation, may PM me for contact info.
Roman.
So in a review last night I had mentioned I had been corresponding with a usual girl of mine who had recommended a friend of hers who had just arrived. I did not partake yesterday due to no reviews but I had been wanting to visit a latina for at least 5 or 6 months now so I decided I'd give it a shot today (based on Young Lee and Pamela's recommendation and her pictures which looked very appealing to me).
I had been corresponding with her assistant since last night but was able to find her backpage ad by searching her name. Due to the changing nature of BP I'll provide her personal website which Young Lee had given to me last night.
http://alessandramazzoni.wix.com/alessandra
I can't tell if she is the exact girl in the pictures because the face is blurred out but she's extremely close if not. She is VERY tall, maybe 5'10 give or take an inch and slender and her man-made (at least I think they were) assets upstairs were pretty nice. But man that ass. Wow that ass. Tan too. She opened the door with this colorful Royals had and the tiniest cut off shorts and a tank top. She looked young and cute. She claimed to be 24 and looks correct to me. Watching her disrobe into blue lacy panties and blue bra was pretty mesmerizing.
She seemed to be into it, based on how her body was responding to my touch. She said 'wow' and complimented my body as I disrobed so I enjoyed that whether it was true or not. Afterward she told me she had a good time and grabbed 'me' again and said how much she liked 'it'. Afterward I started kissing her again as we had another 5-8 minutes left and she asked me if I 'want again'. Not sure if I could have in that time frame or if I would have had to extend to the hour length but I declined.
I did not try / ask for Greek so not sure if that was available. All the usual positions were offered and enjoyed. Everything was covered. Damage was 2. 4 for HH. She wanted to correspond through email even upon arrival. She was located in an apartment complex. Since it's near a major road I went through another building and came around from the backside which made me feel much more comfortable. I did not have to go through any screening since I had visited others there before but not sure if others will have to or not.
I think this covers all but will respond to PMs from friends (you know who you are) and trusted seniors.
Great Expecta
08-15-15, 16:53
Read enough reviews and it won't take long to find identically worded reviews for different providers.I've done countless google searches for research on different girls and ToSluts always seems to pop up. I've never seen a negative posting and the girl is always the best you could imagine. Really? Too bad it wasn't really true, as I've had my share of trolls and well as gorgeous women and great experiences.
What's with all the spam lately on BP? It's the same 21/22 year old Asian ad just filling and cluttering the page.
What's with all the spam lately on BP? It's the same 21/22 year old Asian ad just filling and cluttering the page.I think someone posted an article a month or so ago in the news and media section. I don't recall the exact details but I think it was one of the banks or credit cards or pay pal, one of the payment systems said they would no longer accept charges for backpage and backpage responded by making posting free. Well, free at least temporarily. You can check that thread for the exact details because my details could be pretty far off.
Either way, it's now free or at least was. So everyone posts ads all the time and then they have to repost quickly to keep the ads on the front page. Yea it's become pretty rough. Search around on these threads I've seen several posters give recommendations for dealing with it.
Roamin Roman
08-16-15, 01:49
What's with all the spam lately on BP? It's the same 21/22 year old Asian ad just filling and cluttering the page.
I think someone posted an article a month or so ago in the news and media section. I don't recall the exact details but I think it was one of the banks or credit cards or pay pal, one of the payment systems said they would no longer accept charges for backpage and backpage responded by making posting free. Well, free at least temporarily. You can check that thread for the exact details because my details could be pretty far off.
Either way, it's now free or at least was. So everyone posts ads all the time and then they have to repost quickly to keep the ads on the front page. Yea it's become pretty rough. Search around on these threads I've seen several posters give recommendations for dealing with it.In addition to what NovaCane said, Skooby, the flood of ads from the same Asian operator is likely an attempt to "crowd out" the competition, so to speak. It never works, of course, but that seldom stops some folks from trying all the same. Once they get tired of posting the same ad and wearing out their typing fingers, they'll figure things out and settle down to the normal two or three posts per day.
WebDog2015
08-16-15, 15:28
I've seen Bonita a couple of times over the years. The first time in 2007, she was definitely 40 lbs lighter and had a sweet personality. The second time time in 2010 and she was 40lbs heavier and still has those braces with the missing tooth. Claimed that she was in grad school at GU. One thing's for sure, between the OCD and her old ass pics from 8 years ago, I'd never see her again.
BTW, she ripped you off with the price for the services rendered. You could have gotten. 80 for FS with CBJ from her.
Just saying.Good call BunkerBuster on the "this girl" vs. "that girl" references. Understood it makes the conversation harder. When I used to contribute here in the past (under a different but similar I'd) the culture was to keep things very cryptic and anonymous. To me that doesn't serve anyone. I will gladly be more transparent in my references going forward.
As far as "That Girl" she should remain nameless, or otherwise carry the "fugly old fat broad. ".
"This Girl" Bonita A / K / A "Lovely Hands" doesn't sound much better, based on this report from two years ago. I definitely was suspicious when she asked me to the confirm what the add was, then quote 200% more than the rate in her recent add. I am torn on the mixed reviews as it sounds like it might be promising, but if there were calls for her retirement 2 years ago, somehow I doubt that she is any better now.
Roger's Latina, the Dominican with the $60 special near Merrifield, she hasn't posted since last Monday (the day of Roger's post). Looking at her history, she posted 20-30 times a day until Monday, then nothing. The 703-XXX-0820 she has been using is invalid. She retired early? I seem to have missed my chance on that.
I am trying to scare something up for tonight, hoping it is not too scary. I will probably they the putas in Manassas again.
Have also been wondering about this one (no name found) who keeps promoting that she's the cheapest on BackPage and "bring wine". But this seems like a setup for disappointment or worse. Number is 571-XXX-3284.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/571-469-3284/1/265813
Have also been wondering about this one (no name found) who keeps promoting that she's the cheapest on BackPage and "bring wine". But this seems like a setup for disappointment or worse. Number is 571-XXX-3284.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/571-469-3284/1/265813Hold on there Babalooie. !
I have been with her. The only similarity to the photographs is the same pair of torn jeans. She is not the Caramell complected girl in the pictures she is as black as a struck match. Not that there's anything wrong with that, sometimes I want serious ebony, obsidian even, just don't go expecting the girl in the pictures. She is short about 5 foot one, has some sort of wig or hair weave black hair but in the style of Julia Roberts back in pretty woman. She has a gold ring pierced on her nose nothing on her tits nothing on her pussy. Did not see her middle as she interestingly or a football jersey and socks. Not much else. Yes, she wants you to bring wine specifically Prosecco but she is happy to have the cheapest Prosecco you can find.
Here is a word of caution on the mongers walk of shame; she works out of her residential apartment a run down section 8 place off of Edsell road. This is VFW territory. Despite being half Latin I was woefully out of place in my polo shirt and khakis. Oh by the way when I went up in the elevator there was a black woman who was about 6'5" tall with huge tits I would've jumped her in a heartbeat.
Also the silly girl wanted me to bring my phone with me so she could tell me the room number. I never bring my phone, burner phone or not just because that's one last thing I want to but the police or her manager fine. And oh by the way she does not have a pimp that I could discern.
So I go up to the top floor like she told me to, it is dark and dingy and I can find no sign of the room. I was getting ready to leave when a brother comes out of his apartment to put trash down the shoot and he says "it's the first one on the left" I thank him and knocked on the door. At this point you are probably wondering why I even bother on such a low grade provider. It's because in one of her many ads she says I will satisfy your fetish.
Well you asked for a girl, my fetish happens to be fist fucking. I told her that on the phone and she says OK. As I'm driving there her soused brain cells must of made the connection between the words fist and fuck and she calls me back and says no. By this time I'm rounding little river turn pike on Interstate 495 so I calmly explained to her that despite the violent sounding name it's really a gentle and erotic process. So she agrees.
So we sit on her couch, MTV Teen Mom or some other life coaching program droned on in the background. I keep my clothes on, and that makes her a little nervous. So I compromised and get my dick out while she leans back on the opposite corner of the sofa takes off her panties and spreads her legs. Now with a different girl I might've eaten her out for working my fingers but not her. Nothing smelled wrong but I just was not feeling it she says let me get some lube and I agree. What does the silly cow come by with, lotion, not lube, but moisturizing lotion to avoid getting those ashy legs.
So we lotion up and I start working my fingers in. So her juices start to flow and I've got four fingers in but she's worried that her husband will be coming home soon. Cool, he can watch. ,but she wants me to fuck her. So we go to the bedroom, I cover up an start to bang her mish, she doesn't want to kiss but I force her, telling her I would cum faster. I've got her legs over my shoulders, I'm talking dirty to her, thrusting deep and I can really feel her getting wetter and wetter as I thrust deep. Eventually I come into the hat and I pulled it off and get dressed.
She offers me her bathroom but no soap, no towels, no wipes. I wash my hands say goodbye and get the hell out of Dodge. Would I see her again? Only for $40 plus the cost of wine. The cheapest Prosecco I could find. And just to give her a standard fucking.
Big Jizzle
08-16-15, 19:44
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/welcome-2-mollys-world/18862517
Saw this on BP. Smh. To quote the miz "really? Really? Either LEO thinks we're plain stupid, or whoever is the poster is looking for jabronis to rob. This was too good not to share.
Big Jizzle
08-16-15, 20:19
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-best-provider-with-great-assets-come-have-a-5-blonde-beauty-wit/18841378
Saw this little number in Herndon on Saturday. Nice juicy backyard, but mediocre overall. Didn't want to do CG or RCG, pounded her out in mish, claimed I was hitting it too hard, got her in doggy and slammed the hell out of her out of spite. CBJ, decent kitty. Was able to do 80 for SS. Wouldn't repeat.
YMMV.
Stay safe,
Uncle J.
Over the weekend I checked out some of the relatively few Backpage ads which weren't spam posts featuring photos of Asian models. I called one particular provider who didn't answer but relied by text. The discussion went well until she asked my race. I replied that I'm white and then asked why it should matter. She sent a nasty reply telling me not to tell her what matters, followed by another text saying bye.
I have to admit I'm perplexed. I had no intent or desire to piss her off. On the other hand, her reply probably saved me from wasting time and money on a provider with a bad attitude.
Nothing else worked out with any other providers this weekend, although those discussions were much more pleasant. As a result I don't have any intelligence to contribute. Still, my exchange with this particular provider left me scratching my head. Did I do something wrong?
I think someone posted an article a month or so ago in the news and media section. I don't recall the exact details but I think it was one of the banks or credit cards or pay pal, one of the payment systems said they would no longer accept charges for backpage and backpage responded by making posting free. Well, free at least temporarily. You can check that thread for the exact details because my details could be pretty far off.
Either way, it's now free or at least was. So everyone posts ads all the time and then they have to repost quickly to keep the ads on the front page. Yea it's become pretty rough. Search around on these threads I've seen several posters give recommendations for dealing with it.Everyone has an opinion, but mine is:
1. The Asians are oversaturating to cover up the ads of theirs that are real.
2. The Asians got ahold of a lot of numbers and have set up a switchboard. Which may explain why they sometimes don't pick up but will text you right back.
3. Then again, who says that it's not Uncle LEO doing all this posting? I mean, that's A LOT of work to find all those pictures.
I must admit that it's somewhat effective. Between the oversaturation of Asian, bait and switch / TGTBT and NBA ads, I've found myself giving up a few times. Just don't have time to go through it all. This is why I tend to think it's number #3.
Big Jizzle
08-17-15, 10:06
Over the weekend I checked out some of the relatively few Backpage ads which weren't spam posts featuring photos of Asian models. I called one particular provider who didn't answer but relied by text. The discussion went well until she asked my race. I replied that I'm white and then asked why it should matter. She sent a nasty reply telling me not to tell her what matters, followed by another text saying bye.
I have to admit I'm perplexed. I had no intent or desire to piss her off. On the other hand, her reply probably saved me from wasting time and money on a provider with a bad attitude.
Nothing else worked out with any other providers this weekend, although those discussions were much more pleasant. As a result I don't have any intelligence to contribute. Still, my exchange with this particular provider left me scratching my head. Did I do something wrong?I think it's about control. They have a need or want to control the situation and if they can't it's like its almost an offense to them. Plus they think we mongers are just patsies that can be walked all over and taken advantage of. Any sign that we have a backbone, and they catch attitude and avoid us.
Pleasure247
08-17-15, 10:55
As we all know Springfield has been invaded by an Asian wave. Most of them are comfortably located at a hotel very close to the mall. As I did this past Friday, what I suggest is call 2-3 of them and set up an appointment all right around the same time. Now you have to be careful because some will post with 2-3 different numbers (use google search to identify). Once you get close to the hotel let them know you're there. As soon as you walk in you'll have 2-3 different rooms to go to. Go to each one and go with the one that best suits your needs. If door #1 is no good, just simply say no thank you and move on to your next option. We all know the pics on BP are fake but every now and then you'll bump into something nice. When I did it I said no to two but my last option was very good. Afterwards I felt like I made the best decision businesswise and pleasurewise. You'll have to be a bit experienced at this like myself to pull this off. But if you love Asians like myself then you will find yourself breezing thru this. Happy hunting!
Grafenberg
08-17-15, 13:20
she asked my race. I replied that I'm white and then asked why it should matter. She sent a nasty reply telling me not to tell her what matters, followed by another text saying bye.
I have to admit I'm perplexed.
Still, my exchange with this particular provider left me scratching my head. Did I do something wrong?Did the ad say anything about excluding any race? Quite a few ads specifically say no AA or no AA under 35, etc. Not sure if this is why in this case, but it looks as if it matters enough to her, which is probably why she asked. You questioning her as to why it matters may indicate that you think she should just do whatever you want because you paid. Well, she's still an individual person with free will.
WebDog2015
08-17-15, 18:52
Did the ad say anything about excluding any race? Quite a few ads specifically say no AA or no AA under 35, etc. Not sure if this is why in this case, but it looks as if it matters enough to her, which is probably why she asked. You questioning her as to why it matters may indicate that you think she should just do whatever you want because you paid. Well, she's still an individual person with free will.She has freewill and can make her own choices. The policies are typically put in place by the managers -- who by design would not qualify for the limitations that impose.
WebDog2015
08-17-15, 19:08
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-best-provider-with-great-assets-come-have-a-5-blonde-beauty-wit/18841378
Saw this little number in Herndon on Saturday. Nice juicy backyard, but mediocre overall. Didn't want to do CG or RCG, pounded her out in mish, claimed I was hitting it too hard, got her in doggy and slammed the hell out of her out of spite. CBJ, decent kitty. Was able to do 80 for SS. Wouldn't repeat.
YMMV.
Stay safe,
Uncle J.Uncle J, you must my a man of truly colossal size to call this one a "little number". She is obese. That should have been apparent by her pictures. But like Charlie Brown and the goddamn football, I had been stood up by the putas in Manassas AGAIN. So I caught this one and agreed to give her a shot. She said she only did hour or half hour sessions as she "didn't like to be rushed" but I told her all I had was $80. But that was about $40 too much and she really is a $40 value. Being blond and white she can get away with charging more but frankly would have preferred black or latina.
She is obese. I am not surprised she refused Uncle J. On CG and RGC, as the big girls never like to go top. Her oral was decent as previously reported. Pretty good in fact. Her tits are big but shapeless. Her gut is saggy and huge. She is quite fat. Hitting her from behind is nice. She had a decent attitude and on her knees her ass is pretty solid, not flabby (she's young). It was hard to get deep penetration given the size of her ass, but I hit it hard and she didn't try to block. I nutted solid what was good.
Her attitude is fine, but she is not cuddly. It is all business. I wouldn't repeat either for $80 but I would for $40. She is moving on to Manassas (should be there by now).
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WebDog2015
08-17-15, 21:20
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/reviewed-chanel-monae-last-night-dont-miss-out/18240084
Called chanel last night, she was a little away from my usual area, went I had seen her review last month or so in the post here, so I did remember her. Being in BP with those asian ads. Its hard to find a good provider right now. So called she picked up, was very nice on the phone beautiful voice, we setup the time after 30 min later and I drove there, got there text her 5 min before. She said to call when get there. I got the room number it was a nice hotel in manassas. She is a very sexy spinner if you are into that you have to go see her, nice behind just perfect. Smell really good very freindly attitude and she said she might move to SPRINGFIELD today. Any how I got the quick very tight kittly, I asked her to do 69 while BJ she obliged very nice girl you have ask her what else in the menu. I didn't have much time to just took the quick. Must see guys, I love every single minute. Finish doggy by the way LOL.In my opinion only, but I seriously believe, she is the best in the area for the money. For me, that money tonight was $60. For that I had an unrushed 15-minute half and half session, everything covered but great quality. Incredible cooch. I have never experienced anything so good outside of Korean (I think it is the Kimchi). I never DATY with providers but did with her. Top notch. She was great.
Selfishly I would be tempted to shutup about her and keep it to myself. But I am spreading the word here. Who else has seen her?
Over the weekend I checked out some of the relatively few Backpage ads which weren't spam posts featuring photos of Asian models. I called one particular provider who didn't answer but relied by text. The discussion went well until she asked my race. I replied that I'm white and then asked why it should matter. She sent a nasty reply telling me not to tell her what matters, followed by another text saying bye.
I have to admit I'm perplexed. I had no intent or desire to piss her off. On the other hand, her reply probably saved me from wasting time and money on a provider with a bad attitude.
Nothing else worked out with any other providers this weekend, although those discussions were much more pleasant. As a result I don't have any intelligence to contribute. Still, my exchange with this particular provider left me scratching my head. Did I do something wrong?Just cosigning. If you just communicated only by text then you have to know that in this current climate, she will ask. If you are really white, a question like "Why should it matter?" should not even matter to you. YOU are supposed to act oblivious to this.
"What? You don't see who? Blacks? Oh. So anyway. ".
So you should just call instead of text. If you "sound" white, they won't ask; they won't even make it a topic. If she gets at all angry, bitchy or smart assed with you, she's already decided that she's not going to see you. Don't go on that call. She will not pick up when you get there.
When they ask what your race is, they want to know if you're black. In fact they already BELIEVE YOU ARE. Not latino, Asian, or anything else. They'll ask your occupation or age, so they can detect it in your voice and to not be so blunt about it. And obviously they can't tell when you're only texting, and to them if you're only texting, you're hiding something, most likely your race.
Big Jizzle
08-17-15, 21:56
Uncle J, you must my a man of truly colossal size to call this one a "little number". She is obese. That should have been apparent by her pictures. But like Charlie Brown and the goddamn football, I had been stood up by the putas in Manassas AGAIN. So I caught this one and agreed to give her a shot. She said she only did hour or half hour sessions as she "didn't like to be rushed" but I told her all I had was $80. But that was about $40 too much and she really is a $40 value. Being blond and white she can get away with charging more but frankly would have preferred black or latina.
She is obese. I am not surprised she refused Uncle J. On CG and RGC, as the big girls never like to go top. Her oral was decent as previously reported. Pretty good in fact. Her tits are big but shapeless. Her gut is saggy and huge. She is quite fat. Hitting her from behind is nice. She had a decent attitude and on her knees her ass is pretty solid, not flabby (she's young). It was hard to get deep penetration given the size of her ass, but I hit it hard and she didn't try to block. I nutted solid what was good.
Her attitude is fine, but she is not cuddly. It is all business. I wouldn't repeat either for $80 but I would for $40. She is moving on to Manassas (should be there by now).Hey when you 6'5 and 360 everything is small by comparison, so her riding me would not have been an issue. I've boned larger, so she is actually on the smaller side to me LOL. I'm afraid I would split a true spinner in half like driftwood.
Big Jizzle
08-17-15, 22:05
Just cosigning. If you just communicated only by text then you have to know that in this current climate, she will ask. If you are really white, a question like "Why should it matter?" should not even matter to you. YOU are supposed to act oblivious to this.
"What? You don't see who? Blacks? Oh. So anyway. ".
So you should just call instead of text. If you "sound" white, they won't ask; they won't even make it a topic. If she gets at all angry, bitchy or smart assed with you, she's already decided that she's not going to see you. Don't go on that call. She will not pick up when you get there.
When they ask what your race is, they want to know if you're black. In fact they already BELIEVE YOU ARE. Not latino, Asian, or anything else. They'll ask your occupation or age, so they can detect it in your voice and to not be so blunt about it. And obviously they can't tell when you're only texting, and to them if you're only texting, you're hiding something, most likely your race.As someone who is black, I do agree, but I'm a well spoken decently educated guy, and that usually leads some girls to think I'm white, so by the time I show up and they realize I'm not white, they usually still end up seeing me, and once they see I'm a nice guy and give them no trouble they always say I usually don't see black guys, but I'll give you an exception. Money talks, and I usually get to partake in some action the average black monger might not get.
Bunker Buster
08-18-15, 08:32
I called Alexa, who advertises here and on BP, but found her to be evasive and sketchy on the phone, so I didn't meet her.
http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/-47/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/7413-Alexxa-will-be-your-new-ATF.html
She has one good review, and seems legit, but I didn't get a good feeling so I passed.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/305-764-4840/1/253743After talking to her again then meeting her, I don't want to leave a bad report hanging out there. She's a nice person, friendly and accommodating; everything is exactly as in her ads.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/one-way-ticket-to-a-senusual-oasis-escape-now-to-pleasure-filled-paradise/18736433
I fell for her fake ads last time Bunny and her friend were up in Springfield from Texas. She has 6 phones and 6 ads running. She calls it "working the Page" - Bunny is 40 - has a flat chest and stretch marks. And an crusty attitude. Her MO is to post decoy ads in the area she is working. So most of the "blonde busty ads (with no reviews) are hers.
Be careful.
Member #6049
08-18-15, 13:31
As someone who is black, I do agree, but I'm a well spoken decently educated guy, and that usually leads some girls to think I'm white, so by the time I show up and they realize I'm not white, they usually still end up seeing me, and once they see I'm a nice guy and give them no trouble they always say I usually don't see black guys, but I'll give you an exception. Money talks, and I usually get to partake in some action the average black monger might not get.I've had the same experience. One time I showed up and the girl was playing rock music. When I walked in, she said, "Oh, I thought you were white on the phone," and then she switched to the music to rap. Lmao.
On the other hand, if you're too "formal" on the phone, they sometimes suspect that you're a cop.
This ad in the "Women Seeking Men" section piqued my interest, as it has appeared recently and only a couple times. After initial contact and a couple follow-up emails, we set up a meeting time at her mid-scale motel in Springfield, VA. She gave me her room number when I arrived and called. When I walked in, I was met by a freshly-showered BBW, wrapped in a towel, who welcomed me with a DFK.
She loves giving sensual massages, and that is all the $ is for, but my charming personality and engaging conversation led to other activities after she finished. As you can see, a fun time was had by all. She's a BBW, but not in an obese or sloppy way, and on a scale of looks she is not unattractive for her 52 years. She is affectionate, enthusiastic, genuine, sweet, and very responsive. I will very likely repeat.
Seniors, and Regular members who have a history of useful participation, may PM me for contact info.
Roman.This lady is exactly as reviewed. Nice, clean, nice tasting and nothing but fun. GFE for this old guy.
Hugh Jardon
08-18-15, 19:13
ARGHHH! Dreama made me almost lose my lunch.Good Gad Amity, who would let that anywhere near their dick?
I've had the same experience. One time I showed up and the girl was playing rock music. When I walked in, she said, "Oh, I thought you were white on the phone," and then she switched to the music to rap. Lmao.
On the other hand, if you're too "formal" on the phone, they sometimes suspect that you're a cop.I've had that too, which is kinda insane to me. You try to sound as civil as possible. I wrote of a situation on here where the girl started being a smartass, chastising me for talking "proper". Almost making fun of me. But like I said, if she starts being a smart ass, you're literally wasting your time.
I politely told her I will call someone else and wished her a good night. See, this move right here told her that she was wrong in her assumption, as I don't think LE or a wannabe pimp would have moved on so quick. So she brainfarted, acting like I was being a cheapskate on the donation she quoted. Again I said good night super politely, and she started cursing me out as I was hanging up.
I've had the same experience. One time I showed up and the girl was playing rock music. When I walked in, she said, "Oh, I thought you were white on the phone," and then she switched to the music to rap. Lmao.
On the other hand, if you're too "formal" on the phone, they sometimes suspect that you're a cop.Oh, but check this out. That's one of the things I find so funny! The same girls that put "No blacks allowed" in their ads will show themselves in their Youtube proof video gyrating to some hard core hiphop, thugged out, Soulja Boy shit. It's not like they're dancing to country music or something, with the Confederate flag in the background. Now THAT I would understand. Haha.
Big Jizzle
08-18-15, 21:10
Good Gad Amity, who would let that anywhere near their dick?I wouldn't even be able to get it up. I'd definitely dry heave. Whoever hits that should have their pussy card revoked for life!
Big Jizzle
08-18-15, 21:15
Oh, but check this out. That's one of the things I find so funny! The same girls that put "No blacks allowed" in their ads will show themselves in their Youtube proof video gyrating to some hard core hiphop, thugged out, Soulja Boy shit. It's not like they're dancing to country music or something, with the Confederate flag in the background. Now THAT I would understand. Haha.Its like these girls think that every black guy they see is either wanting to rape, rob, or pimp them out. Or they think black guys are cheap and try to haggle too much. At the end of the day, they need my money more than I need their pussy.
As someone who is black, I do agree, but I'm a well spoken decently educated guy, and that usually leads some girls to think I'm white, so by the time I show up and they realize I'm not white, they usually still end up seeing me, and once they see I'm a nice guy and give them no trouble they always say I usually don't see black guys, but I'll give you an exception. Money talks, and I usually get to partake in some action the average black monger might not get.I do the same thing, just happens naturally because I'm educated also. And I get the same spiel after the session. I'll tell you, very often this positive experience is sometimes all it takes to change their policy. Sometimes. With these providers, I try to make a point of making a special connection with them so they will at least remember me for next time. The older, more experienced providers usually appreciate this gesture. The younger, fly-by-night ones usually are too immature to care.
Only had it happen once where a girl said she was told not to see me AFTER I met her. Management must have seen me, and called her as she was leading me to the room.
BTW, them telling you: "I don't normally see black guys" is usually code for "You're cool, but don't tell your (black) friends. I'm not trying to make a habit of this. ".
We're just talking talking USG shop, fellas.
Big Jizzle
08-18-15, 21:34
I do the same thing, just happens naturally because I'm educated also. And I get the same spiel after the session. I'll tell you, very often this positive experience is sometimes all it takes to change their policy. Sometimes. With these providers, I try to make a point of making a special connection with them so they will at least remember me for next time. The older, more experienced providers usually appreciate this gesture. The younger, fly-by-night ones usually are too immature to care.
Only had it happen once where a girl said she was told not to see me AFTER I met her. Management must have seen me, and called her as she was leading me to the room.
BTW, them telling you: "I don't normally see black guys" is usually code for "You're cool, but don't tell your (black) friends. I'm not trying to make a habit of this. ".
We're just talking talking USG shop, fellas.Usually management is themselves black or Latino, so they already have preconceived notions about their own races based on who they associate themselves with, as well as playing on the typical stereotypes. That's why any provider I see now I try to get them to start posting on USA classified because that will eliminate the young guys who are trying to rob or pimp them. They will know all the guys in this forum are gentlemen and all about a drama free encounter. The young dumb guys likely don't know about this site, so it could help open relations between them and fellow black mongers that are members here. Plus it could have the added benefit of a lowered leo presence since leo likely trolls bp to set up providers, so its a win win situation for everyone if they started posting here as opposed to bp
Roamin Roman
08-19-15, 02:06
What's with all the spam lately on BP? It's the same 21/22 year old Asian ad just filling and cluttering the page.BP has a provision to report an ad, and one of the choices is "spam / overposted". It wouldn't be very difficult to search on some of the phone numbers in those spam ads; then just go through the list and report each one as spam. If a few folks did this, the BP software would probably recognize the reported ads as spam and flag / remove them. Worth a try, perhaps.
Roamin Roman
08-19-15, 02:41
This lady is exactly as reviewed. Nice, clean, nice tasting and nothing but fun. GFE for this old guy.Glad you found things as I reported them, amigo. She's very down-to-earth, clean, safe, and friendly. Perhaps not every monger's cup of tea, but she provides a nice massage experience and free extras if she likes you. (She must've liked you.) I plan to see her again when she returns to the area.
BTW, thanks for posting a report, brief as it was, about your experience with this provider. However, since you've been a member for many years, why not share some more of your experiences with the rest of the members? A grand total of 7 posts to your credit over the past 4-5 years might lead some to think that you're holding out on the rest of us. Just kidding, of course, but the quality of the forum is in direct proportion to the number of folks who participate. So, how 'about it, amigo? I'm sure you've got more than a few nuggets tucked away.
Craiglyszt
08-19-15, 08:47
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/cuttie-new-young-asian-body-on-the-body-34d-big-boobs-natural-646-5777326/18385034
Called to arrange an appointment. Typical 2 call process with texted address. Of course it was not the girl in the pics, reasonably attractive K girl, slightly chunky, but not flabby. Very firm b's, I'd say 5'5, 130-140. Got an alcohol wipe down which was a bit uncomfortable everything was covered.
I left quite happy, even got a little back rub after.
Bunker Buster
08-19-15, 20:09
BP has a provision to report an ad, and one of the choices is "spam / overposted". It wouldn't be very difficult to search on some of the phone numbers in those spam ads; then just go through the list and report each one as spam. If a few folks did this, the BP software would probably recognize the reported ads as spam and flag / remove them. Worth a try, perhaps.I tried flagging a bunch of them, but it's time-consuming, and I haven't seen any benefit.
At best, the software is set up to take down a particular ad if more than 3 different users flag it, but 1 poster can put it right back up at no cost.
And with each one of these agencies putting up the same ad 20-30 times each per day, there are hundreds of fake ads that would need flagging. At 30 seconds each, do the math.
It can't be that hard for BP to set their software to recognize the same pictures, phone numbers, and IP addresses, and put a cap on the number of times any one of these elements can post. They're not just dealing with it.
The USA Adult Classifieds is open for business, make the move now before BP gets closed, you know it's coming.
http://usaadultclassifieds.info
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Bunker Buster
08-19-15, 20:41
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/cuttie-new-young-asian-body-on-the-body-34d-big-boobs-natural-646-5777326/18385034
Called to arrange an appointment. Typical 2 call process with texted address. Of course it was not the girl in the pics, reasonably attractive K girl, slightly chunky, but not flabby. Very firm b's, I'd say 5'5, 130-140. Got an alcohol wipe down which was a bit uncomfortable everything was covered.
I left quite happy, even got a little back rub after.But as long as guys are calling these Asian agencies to make appointments and hand over cash, instead of telling them they suck for posting so many fake ads, they're going to continue spamming BP with thousands of ads per week.
We have parallel threads here trying to figure out how to delete, discourage, or at least navigate the fake Asian ads on the one hand, and rewarding them for their bad behavior on the other hand.
These discussions seem to be at cross-purposes.
I want to thank my fellow mongers who contributed their $. 02 worth, and more, in response to my most recent post.
To clarify a couple of things: I called the provider; she's the one who chose to communicate by texting. Also, her ad listed several races she likes but didn't specifically say "no blacks" or words to that effect. In any event, I've got no desire or plans to communicate with her again. Thanks again for your feedback.
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=Zodiac69;2587488]I'm white, one girl I saw said she didn't see blacks because her boyfriend is black and he knows she is attracted to blacks and didn't want her.
To possibly meet another black guy. She said he thinks all white guys are nerds with little dicks (at least the ones who see hookers) and.
Therefore he wasn't worried about it. I've seen others who say "no blacks" who have names like the'Angelo or Jamel tatted on their backs. I've also.
Seen a mixed girl who clearly appears more black than white who lists herself as "Italian" and refuses blacks.
I.I have seen many providers that say "I normally don't see black guys. " When I ask why, 99% invariably said that the "young guys" are the problem, or that is is the guys that are too rough. Now, with the "no black guys" in the advertisement, I don't even want to spend $$ on the women, regardless of whether they would see me (any many would) otherwise. I have in the past, don't get me wrong. However, now, I am older and I don't want to spend my $$ on stupid or ignorant broads.
These chicks can sell their pussy to who they want, and we can spend our money on who we want. I think that we need solidarity, and boycott ignorant chicks. A lot of BP and internet chicks are not the brightest bulbs in the box, which is why they tend to focus on the lowest common denominator to screen clients: race. That is what they can see. Most higher end providers segregate customers by profession, price point, reference, or word of mouth (you only would know about them or the agency if someone referred you). Higher end (or non-BP class) providers tend to be better educated and, frequently, just smarter (which is likely why they tend to not be on BP). I don't see providers who segregate (no Africans, no Indians, no hispanics). A black doctor who lives in Potomac can get all of the "no blacks" ad pussy he wants, if the chic knew his occupation and economic status. They use the prohibition to weed out a group of people that they believe have a higher percentage of trouble makers, irrespective of whether it is true or not.
Pussy is a fungible commodity. There is too much of it out there to be patronizing ignorant providers, or to be waisting time on the hope / expectation that a chic is going to make an exception because you are not a thug, can form a complete sentence, and are not "that kind of black guy. " Our time as mongers has to be worth more than that. We, mongers of all races, need to stick together as the true Rainbow Tribe of Eskimo Brothers (RTEB) that we are, and boycott closed minded chicks.
So having said this, who wants to join the RTEB? Charlie Sheen, Hugh Grant, Tiger Woods, Ellot Spencer, A. Rod, Eddie Murphy, Jimmy Swaggart, and the US Secret Service are on the board of Directors. Membership is open.
Big Jizzle
08-20-15, 22:57
I have seen many providers that say "I normally don't see black guys. " When I ask why, 99% invariably said that the "young guys" are the problem, or that is is the guys that are too rough. Now, with the "no black guys" in the advertisement, I don't even want to spend $$ on the women, regardless of whether they would see me (any many would) otherwise. I have in the past, don't get me wrong. However, now, I am older and I don't want to spend my $$ on stupid or ignorant broads.
These chicks can sell their pussy to who they want, and we can spend our money on who we want. I think that we need solidarity, and boycott ignorant chicks. A lot of BP and internet chicks are not the brightest bulbs in the box, which is why they tend to focus on the lowest common denominator to screen clients: race. That is what they can see. Most higher end providers segregate customers by profession, price point, reference, or word of mouth (you only would know about them or the agency if someone referred you). Higher end (or non-BP class) providers tend to be better educated and, frequently, just smarter (which is likely why they tend to not be on BP). I don't see providers who segregate (no Africans, no Indians, no hispanics). A black doctor who lives in Potomac can get all of the "no blacks" ad pussy he wants, if the chic knew his occupation and economic status. They use the prohibition to weed out a group of people that they believe have a higher percentage of trouble makers, irrespective of whether it is true or not.
Pussy is a fungible commodity. There is too much of it out there to be patronizing ignorant providers, or to be waisting time on the hope / expectation that a chic is going to make an exception because you are not a thug, can form a complete sentence, and are not "that kind of black guy. " Our time as mongers has to be worth more than that. We, mongers of all races, need to stick together as the true Rainbow Tribe of Eskimo Brothers (RTEB) that we are, and boycott closed minded chicks.
So having said this, who wants to join the RTEB? Charlie Sheen, Hugh Grant, Tiger Woods, Ellot Spencer, A. Rod, Eddie Murphy, Jimmy Swaggart, and the US Secret Service are on the board of Directors. Membership is open.The young guys are the ones who either try to rob them, or show up with 60 for a $ . 20 half hour session. They are messing up the game for everyone else.
The Asian agencies have been deservedly bashed by many contributors here, including this one. Many postings have detailed the disappointment of the AP that should have already retired, or speaks no or very little English, that don't know how to give a massage, that are inexperienced getting arousal, or has restrictions that are a session turn off, and on and on. It's doubtful that the agency or mama or boss has ever met the provider, but certainly has done no screening.
When you get a good assignment, it's often a surprise and needs to be recorded, if only in fairness for all the bashing reports. This reporter called a familiar referral number for an appointment. The "boss" recognized the incoming call number because she immediate knew the preferred location. A scan of the BP ads had the same contact phone # on six other ads, all different pictures, all different physical descriptions and all different locations.
This was the ad: Are you in the mood for some fun? Have a need to be pampered and pleased? I've got just what you need to put your mind and body at ease. My Name is SHIRLY 21 years old 5"3 34 D 105 pounds. Call -917--XXX--9336. http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/g-o-r-g-e-o-u-s-asiang-i-r-l-new-here/18780306.
Shirly was closer to 30, but all the other descriptors matched plus she is cute with a bubbly personality. She was the closest thing one can get to a GFE, except most activities are covered. Kissing, nursing, BJ and grinding uncovered at the beginning then covered later, daty, 69, cg, rcg, doggie, mish. If your hands or mouth aren't busy, she puts a headlight in it / them and guides how she wants them massaged, licked or sucked. No clock watching, nothing refused, and she initiated the position changes. She reached orgasm twice. An hour passes very quickly and is the recommended engagement. Shirly travels around the US but mostly in California and NOVA. Standard Asian fare. No upsell. A good tip was appreciated.
Will the next referral be as good? Not a chance! But about one in ten will be memorable. Just like dating, huh?
I agree to what you are saying. Majority of the cases are fakers or scammers. They say that bc tbey think aa men would retaliate to scam or fakes. It's bitter sweet. I've mongered to those individuals and 95% of the time, I was very dissapointed. Through experience I know those are to avoid. Many seniors have experience this. Especially, now a days a lot of scammers are coming from California are stating no aa. Don't be a fool avoid by any chance, they use fake pic and once they get your donation it's over. Many of them are Latina, located in springfield, alexandria or arlington.
I have seen many providers that say "I normally don't see black guys. " When I ask why, 99% invariably said that the "young guys" are the problem, or that is is the guys that are too rough. Now, with the "no black guys" in the advertisement, I don't even want to spend $$ on the women, regardless of whether they would see me (any many would) otherwise. I have in the past, don't get me wrong. However, now, I am older and I don't want to spend my $$ on stupid or ignorant broads.
These chicks can sell their pussy to who they want, and we can spend our money on who we want. I think that we need solidarity, and boycott ignorant chicks. A lot of BP and internet chicks are not the brightest bulbs in the box, which is why they tend to focus on the lowest common denominator to screen clients: race. That is what they can see. Most higher end providers segregate customers by profession, price point, reference, or word of mouth (you only would know about them or the agency if someone referred you). Higher end (or non-BP class) providers tend to be better educated and, frequently, just smarter (which is likely why they tend to not be on BP). I don't see providers who segregate (no Africans, no Indians, no hispanics). A black doctor who lives in Potomac can get all of the "no blacks" ad pussy he wants, if the chic knew his occupation and economic status. They use the prohibition to weed out a group of people that they believe have a higher percentage of trouble makers, irrespective of whether it is true or not.
Pussy is a fungible commodity. There is too much of it out there to be patronizing ignorant providers, or to be waisting time on the hope / expectation that a chic is going to make an exception because you are not a thug, can form a complete sentence, and are not "that kind of black guy. " Our time as mongers has to be worth more than that. We, mongers of all races, need to stick together as the true Rainbow Tribe of Eskimo Brothers (RTEB) that we are, and boycott closed minded chicks.
So having said this, who wants to join the RTEB? Charlie Sheen, Hugh Grant, Tiger Woods, Ellot Spencer, A. Rod, Eddie Murphy, Jimmy Swaggart, and the US Secret Service are on the board of Directors. Membership is open..
Cowboy Wilson
08-21-15, 21:39
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/?keyword=305%20842%209976&layout=gallery Who actually calls this person?
Member #6049
08-22-15, 01:48
Something that surprised me is that the LE stings can also say "no aa" or "no blacks. " A white guy on another board got caught in a sting that said that.
I agree to what you are saying. Majority of the cases are fakers or scammers. They say that bc tbey think aa men would retaliate to scam or fakes. It's bitter sweet. I've mongered to those individuals and 95% of the time, I was very dissapointed. Through experience I know those are to avoid. Many seniors have experience this. Especially, now a days a lot of scammers are coming from California are stating no aa. Don't be a fool avoid by any chance, they use fake pic and once they get your donation it's over. Many of them are Latina, located in springfield, alexandria or arlington.
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Something that surprised me is that the LE stings can also say "no aa" or "no blacks. " A white guy on another board got caught in a sting that said that.Taking your (or his) word for it, but I would otherwise disagree. I've never known LE to try NOT to arrest black guys. To me, ads that say "NBA" are a sure-fire way to know that there is actually someone there that will service you. It won't vouch for the service you get.
But I also agree with the previous post. Most providers that take pride in their ability to do their job well will not discriminate according to race. They know assholes come in all colors, and every provider has said this when I ask them about it. Truthfully, their reasons depend on who you ask, and have heard all kinds. Their reason is usually the one that will offend you the least (if you're clean cut, they'll say it's the thugs, if you have means they'll say it's the lowballers, if you're a professional, they'll say it's the pimps, etc.) But it's usually the younger, immature johns, regardless of race, that are the idiots. The younger providers are being told what to do and say, and they're never straight forward about it, so they are the biggest time wasters.
If the ads says "no blacks" then I simply don't call. I'm not going to beg someone to take my money. But non-black guys should take heed to these ads also. Most of these girls who state this are bait and switch, flakers, have no reviews, and otherwise provide mediocre to bad service. And they're usually not in the game for very long.
Happy Guy 2
08-23-15, 20:19
Mike, if you like wonderful experiences, I agree with PilotAviator. You are missing out by passing on Nyomi Nuru. Not your typical provider at all. Really into Nuru and a delightful satisfying time. The TER comments are (about products used?) are misplaced and silly because the quality is truly in the experience, which you might miss. If you want a wam, bam, BBBJ, FS, thank you mam, she is not for you. Otherwise, lean back and be happy. It all in the mind! . at least for me. As someone once said, YMMV, depending on you. Also cost is reasonable based on quality and safety.
Keep safe,
Happy Guy 2.
Googled her and found a TER thread alleging she uses inferior products. I think I still want to pay a little more and go see Jazz. One of these days I want to see Eleanor. She sounds super hot.
Quote Originally Posted by PilotAviator
I had a weekend appt with Nyomi (search BP NoVA or BP DC bodyrubs for advert).
Nyomi is very nice. Her website (and the photos) are accurate.
I enjoyed the experience. FWIW, I'll not repeat only because the price-point is a bitter-pill to take. For whatever reason, a Nuru rub in this area (IDN. Everywhere?) is at least 20% more than a massage experience.
However, for any who want to sample Nuru, the experience with Nyomi is great (for any who remember Nikki Nice, Nyomi's Nuru experience is better).
Always be nice to the ladies.
PA.
So anyway, back on the prowl.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/young-wild-and-sexxxyvietnamese-girlcome-and-eat-me-upim-ready-when-you-are/18527244
I met up with Lilly Yin 240-772-4842; was in the mood for the Far East without needing a translator. Turns out didn't even need to go that far.
Really chill Viet (Am.) girl, true pics, vocal, and wants to enjoy herself as well. Only got HJ and not CBJ; not sure if that's YMMV, as I initially went in seeking SS (her rates are on par with everyone else). Paid a little extra for an upgrade and boy did she give me one.
She has reviews; the first one is terrible. But based on my experience, no way that could have been true.
Only giving specifics to trusted mongers if requested. But the point is go see her, and try to be nice, as her approach to this hobby is somewhat rare.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exotic-newbottom-beauty-very-rarevery-real-and-very-ready-24hrs-full-proof-video-on-vimeo/18936223
Vikki Valentine 757-404-6985.
She may have left town already, but she passes through while traveling from New York through Atlanta. She was actually in Crystal City and not DC. I guess she wanted to turn a few to pay for the upscale room, and like her ad says, she books up fast. Went on a horny whim.
Attractive lady, maybe 5' tall, nice body, great ass (slightly enhanced but barely noticeable). Seems like the type that dances at the more upscale stripclubs and has a small following. Really low-key personality.
Decent "get right to it" service, but she was well aware of the time during our session.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/ftlauderdale/201-580-6403/1/164422
Ms. Addiction: 201-580-6403.
Even though I can't find her ad, I believe she said she would come back soon (wishful thinking? That, and I had found another ad (fake pics) that led to this same number. I'm worried about that. Thinking she had a tough time with someone. She told me a few stories.
But the pics on the link I provided are really her. Nice looking NJ-accented boricua, reminds me of the feisty Puerto Rican girls I went to school with.
Thick bottle shape build, really easy going. Good for ass-lovers like myself and nice head game. Pics are accurate; she got some work done up top. They feel natural but the zipper scars were evident in the light.
BP Standard 1. 0; 1. 4. Rinse and repeat.
Mr Sassinak
08-24-15, 17:29
I'm white, one girl I saw said she didn't see blacks because her boyfriend is black and he knows she is attracted to blacks and didn't want her.
To possibly meet another black guy. She said he thinks all white guys are nerds with little dicks (at least the ones who see hookers) and.
Therefore he wasn't worried about it. I've seen others who say "no blacks" who have names like the'Angelo or Jamel tatted on their backs. I've also.
Seen a mixed girl who clearly appears more black than white who lists herself as "Italian" and refuses blacks.
I.There really is no specific or singular reason. And given the total comments on the board it sounds like from a supply / demand perspective, they are on the lowest end of the supply side (regarding quality of service provided) and garner a small amount of repeat business (ie: low demand). Me personally I tend to skip these sorts of people just because the risk to myself is too high. I don't want to risk job, life, wife, disease over substandard service.
Roamin Roman
08-25-15, 04:39
Before anyone starts giving me grief for patronizing one of the Asian ads on BP, this ad caught my eye because it appeared different from the other Asian (agency) ads flooding that site over the past few weeks. Anyway, after looking at the ad, I estimated a fair chance of it being an independent, so I made the call. She said she'd be available in 45 minutes and that her rate was. 6 "for the massage. " Well, that seemed on par with the local AMPs, and was the experience I was looking for when I phoned her. I said fine and she texted me her location. I arrived at the appointed time to a mid-range hotel in Chantilly, called her, and she let gave me the room number.
She is definitely the girl in the pictures and is weight-height proportional, with a bit of baby fat which I could feel when she gave me a hug as I entered. The room was clean and free of any mildew, smoke, or other odors. She had me undress, placed a towel on the bed, and had me lay down. Her massage technique is basic, but her hands and fingers are strong. She was able to apply good pressure to the back and leg muscles effectively. She is a pleasant lady, probably in her 30's (even if the ad says 27), but her English skills are far from perfect. You might have a little trouble understanding her or giving her instructions if the pressure is too soft or too hard. Regardless, she handled things well and finished giving a decent utility massage. Then, we made some additional arrangements. So, pay her a visit and, as she says in her ad, give her a chance to make you happy. You'll be glad you did, and you'll be happy.
Seniors and Regular members who have a history of useful participation may PM me for specifics.
Roman.
Roamin Roman
08-25-15, 15:57
Since I stayed up all night trying to load a new software package onto my computer, I sent a note to a BP provider. This was around 4:30 am, and I was thinking she'd reply back sometime later in the morning. To my surprise, she was already awake, preparing to check out of her mid-range motel at 11 am. Asked if she wanted some company beforehand, and she said "Sure. " So, after a short excursion, I found her waiting in her room, wrapped in a towel that "fell off" when she began giving me a massage. Well, one thing led to another. I started giving her a massage and, before either of us knew it, we were locked in a coital embrace. At one point, after a couple of cums on her part, she began panting again and said (in a deep, breathy voice), "Damn, you are such a good f&#k!" (I've got that on video, which I was shooting at the time, so maybe I'll make an edited version of it available at some point, along with her BJ and HJ techniques, too.) Based on the situation, I don't think she uttered those words idly to bolster my ego or induce me to cum quickly. We stayed locked together for another 10 minutes. Then, I laid back and let her take command. She gave me a terrific BBBJ (with a technique that resembles her DFK) to conclusion. Afterwards, we cleaned up, shared some more DFK for a while, and then I departed so she could pack her things for checkout. All in all, it was a great Morning Delight.
She doesn't take all comers who call or email her. And even if you do get to see her, YMMV. You might just get a nice massage to relieve some stiff joints and other parts. Also, she won't be everyone's cup of tea. She's no spinner, shows a bit of her age, and does smoke. (In fact, she had been smoking in the room prior to my arrival, but the air was not heavy with the smell of cigarettes.) But, she is a nice gal and a warm cup of tea for me. So, I'll be making plans to see her again when she returns to the area. If any of you do see her, be sure to treat her nicely, like a lady ought to be treated. (To the one guy who tried to cum in her mouth during BBBJ, or perhaps failed to give her a warning beforehand: Shame on you. No lady should be surprised by anything except gifts, dinners, and flowers. Surprising her by cumming in her mouth is a no-no.).
As always, trusted Seniors will get priority replies, and Regulars with a significant amount of useful contributions will receive comparable info. If your post history is in the single digits, or consists mainly of "I agree" type of comments or requests for information, please expect a long interval between your PM to me and my reply back to you.
Roman.
As a newbie here, what's the best way to learn?
Also, I am interested in Jade Marie (http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/andgt-flawless-asian-te-hottieutit-visiting/14821064) and "Katrina" http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/here-noww-ht-asian-vixxen-in-town-_-fun-n-flirty_-n-cram/18889345 but she has no TER.
Anyone have any tips?
I am young, so seniors, advice is greatly appreciated.
Met this super cutie at the Herndon CAMP. She had nice little A / be cups, tasty snatch and nice Kegal action. About 26 I gusee and very sweet and soft skin.
Worth a repeat. $. 5 for the hour.
PC out.
Roamin Roman
08-26-15, 02:26
As a newbie here, what's the best way to learn?
Also, I am interested in Jade Marie (http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/andgt-flawless-asian-te-hottieutit-visiting/14821064) and "Katrina" http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/here-noww-ht-asian-vixxen-in-town-_-fun-n-flirty_-n-cram/18889345 but she has no TER.
Anyone have any tips?
I am young, so seniors, advice is greatly appreciated.The best advice I can offer for any new member to these boards is this: READ.
Many, many other members have shared their findings, experiences, and thoughts on the boards, and this collective info goes back a number of years. This 'body of knowledge' (no pun intended) constitutes a great trove of information, readily available to any member, whether Senior or Regular. It is, quite literally, there for anyone to make use of. That person who seeks to learn has only to read what others have posted.
It may seem like a daunting task, to go back a few weeks (or a few months) and see what the news and information the posts have discussed. And. It's also tempting to take the lazy monger's shortcut and simply head right out without doing any reading. However, failing to read will deprive you of some very valuable information, some of which could help you avoid some very unpleasant situations. As the saying goes, "Do your homework first." If you do, you'll be much better positioned to venture forth successfully on your first outing.
And, once you've ventured out and had some experiences (both positive and. Hopefully few. Negative ones), you need to contribute reports of those experiences to the forum. For one thing, you findings will assist other members, you'll be "giving back" to others who've shared, and most importantly you'll be building 'board cred'. When you've built up enough 'board cred' - the amount of which each monger you deal with will determine for himself. You'll be able to ask questions of other mongers (via PM) with a reasonable expectation that they'll share some of their more closely held information with you. You see, each monger obtains his information, whether he shares it on the open forum or not, through the expenditure of his own limited time and hard-earned money. So, if a monger sees that you've also contributed useful information to the forum, he'll be more inclined to answer a question that you might send him via PM. But, this trust will take time to build (via 'board cred' And eventually, and sooner than you realize, you'll become a respected Senior member on these forums, which can be handy if you're visiting another city sometime and seeking info about its mongering environment.
So, to summarize:
READ
EXPLORE
REPORT
ASK
It's that simple. Follow those four points, and you'll do fine in this forum.
Roamin' Roman, aka "Roman".
Roamin Roman
08-26-15, 02:41
She doesn't take all comers who call or email her. And even if you do get to see her, YMMV. You might just get a nice massage to relieve some stiff joints and other parts.Just to be clear, she isn't offering FS in her BP ad. She is simply offering massage. However, she is a very sensual lady and, if you're cool, things may progress beyond mere massage. As has occasionally happened in my outings, I've found that offering her a massage (if your skills are halfway decent in that regard) can help move things to a different level. It won't always happen but, in my experiences, it happens more often than not. If things do progress beyond a simple massage, it's all pure gravy. She won't ask for and does not expect or "hint" at additional funds if things progress. That way, everything stays legal, and any extracurricular activities are simply social interactions between consenting adults. She is simply someone who enjoys meeting other people while she's traveling, and one way to do that is by giving massages. So, when you contact her, just ask about getting together for a massage. She might ask you to send a photo, to determine if she has any interest / attraction.
Roamin Roman
08-26-15, 14:25
Although I'd seen Ashleigh's ads before (mainly on the Baltimore BP boards, although she has advertised in other locales such as Pittsburgh, Chattanooga, Dallas, and Boston, too), but I had never been able to catch up with her when she was in town. Well, last week I finally got ahold of her at her Herndon area hotel and set up a visit. I'm happy to report that all of the positive comments online (in this forum and elsewhere) are very accurate.
Ashleigh is a sweet "bluebonnet" gal (originally from Texas) who provides a high-quality experience. The pictures in her ad are of her, and they are recent, but they probably don't quite do her complete justice. When you see her in person, you'll know what I mean. Her body type reminded me of the "soft body" porn actresses of the mid-to-late 1970's, as opposed to the "hard body" actresses of the 1980's and 1990's. She is tall (maybe 5'-8" trim (maybe 110# all-natural (maybe 36 C), with soft skin and pretty hands and feet. There is no bait-and-switch in her ads.
From the moment that she opened the door, until the moment I departed an hour later, she was constantly kissing. Well, not constantly, but this gal treats you like you were her boyfriend, with all the kisses she gives you throughout the session. And, she doesn't short you on time or rush you, either. She is very service-oriented in getting the job done, but without a businesslike attitude or demeanor. And, although she does smoke (as evidenced by the pack of cigarettes on the counter), she doesn't smoke during the time you're there. Neither did the room reek of cigarette smoke. The entire session was safe, but stimulating and enjoyable, and she can engage in intelligent conversation if you want to talk during your time. All in all, you will get what you paid for.
Will I repeat? That's hard to say. I enjoyed my time with her, absolutely, and there was nothing she did that was off-putting or negative. But, as a higher-quality provider who keeps herself in good shape and stays at upper mid-range hotels, her rates are a tad higher than the usual BP provider. Her rates aren't exorbitant, by any means, but I look at the extra. 2 to. 4 as being able to pay for a sufficiently satisfying experience with another, slightly-lower rate provider (or, a much more affordable provider such as the "4:30 am gal" whom I recently reviewed).
But don't let this discourage any of you from meeting her. This is just me and my perspective. I'm not saying that I couldn't or wouldn't see her again. In fact, I probably will, but I just can't make visits with her a regular part of my appetite. She's like a fine wine, when all you really want most times is the house's table wine. You save the fine wine for those special occasions, and drink the house wine when you want something that is more than sufficient to go with a good meal.
So, my recommendation on Ashleigh is this: Go see her. You are not likely to be disappointed. In fact, you're very likely to want to reassess your current choices and decide that a girl like Ashleigh (and she is very much a girly girl) will be worth the slightly higher rate than the disappointments you occasionally encounter with other BP providers. You just have to get it in your mind that higher quality warrants a higher rate. And, as I said, she won't cost you an arm and a leg (or any appendage, for that matter). You'll just have to make a slight adjustment to your current mongering budget.
Bunker Buster
08-26-15, 16:08
The best advice I can offer for any new member to these boards is this: READ.
So, to summarize:
READ
EXPLORE
REPORT
ASK
It's that simple. Follow those four points, and you'll do fine in this forum.
Roamin' Roman, aka "Roman".When I first got online and discovered hobby boards (one run by a large canine), I read every post in every thread going back several years. It took me hours, but I knew the entire landscape before I started posting and asking questions. Since then, I've moved through various boards, giving and getting info, and my ratio of good-to-bad experiences has been 20:1. Doing the homework pays off.
Go back and skim page after page for an hour or two, to see how people decide whether someone is legit based on her online presence. Google everything: phone numbers, pictures (learn to use image search), then Google all of your results. Sometimes you have to dig 2-3 layers down to connect a lot of dots, but you'll find ads under different names and phone numbers, reports, reviews, Facebook pages, all kinds of information.
Seniors are happy to help newbies out if it looks like they did they homework first, then got stuck on the answer.
When you build up a reputation for doing your work, and you share your finds, you'll find a great deal of generosity both on the public forum, and gems being shared back-channel.
There really is no specific or singular reason. And given the total comments on the board it sounds like from a supply / demand perspective, they are on the lowest end of the supply side (regarding quality of service provided) and garner a small amount of repeat business (ie: low demand). Me personally I tend to skip these sorts of people just because the risk to myself is too high. I don't want to risk job, life, wife, disease over substandard service.Not defending the practice but just want to make a couple of points. First is that the average provider sees a lot more clients than the other way around. And a couple of bad experiences with a particular race or age range can unfortunately quickly transform into a rule that she doesn't want to see those clients. She may not be prejudiced in her non-hobby life but just sees it as a safety / business decision.
Second point is that the hobby doesn't generally attract the most educated, well-adjusted and emotionally stable slice of the female universe. Which, IMHO, means the more you're willing to pay (think Eros vs BP) the more intellectually open-minded the providers are likely to be. Come to think of it, I don't think I've seen any recent Eros ads with the "no AA" disclaimer.
Roamin Roman
08-27-15, 12:39
Not defending the practice but just want to make a couple of points. First is that the average provider sees a lot more clients than the other way around. And a couple of bad experiences with a particular race or age range can unfortunately quickly transform into a rule that she doesn't want to see those clients. She may not be prejudiced in her non-hobby life but just sees it as a safety / business decision.To echo what JmSuttr said, the ostensible "racist" attitudes of many AMP girls and BP providers may be similar to Jesse Jackson's attitude when he once said: "There is nothing more painful to me. Than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. " It isn't that Jesse Jackson holds racist attitudes against other blacks; he was simply speaking from observation and, possibly, personal experience. He knows, but probably didn't want to say it, that black youth commit violent crime far out of proportion to their percentage in the general population. Likewise, this may explain the reluctance of many women, especially Asians, in the sex service industry. And, looking back at news reports even in this area, the reports of massage parlors being robbed (even one worker being killed) more often than not involve young black males. That may, and probably is, also a function of massage parlors being located in less-than-upscale neighborhoods or the best sections of a city. But, from the workers' standpoint, they just see the race of the individuals committing these violent crimes and make a reasonable risk-based judgment. Hence, the reluctance of many workers to see black men (or black men under a certain age). This, surprisingly or not, even occurs with black women providers.
So, the refusal of some providers to accept black clients is probably not best described as "racist", per se, but as risk-based (based on personal experience or news reports).
WebDog2015
08-27-15, 15:29
Met this super cutie at the Herndon CAMP. She had nice little A / be cups, tasty snatch and nice Kegal action. About 26 I gusee and very sweet and soft skin.
Worth a repeat. $. 5 for the hour.
PC out.Sounds good. I have not seen mention of the 'Herndon CAMP' and would be like to know more. And you got some good DATY action that I always look for. Was there more GFE or the rest covered? MSOG?
BTW, BackPage appears to be down. Hackers I wonder?
I have seen this ad around: http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/curvy-paloma/18363220.
I'm sure the photos are fake but I'm looking for a latina body rub. Has anyone seen her?
I have seen this ad around: http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/curvy-paloma/18363220.
I'm sure the photos are fake but I'm looking for a latina body rub. Has anyone seen her?There was a latina FBSM provider using the name Paloma (in Springfield) in the past. That name is a bit uncommon but I have no idea if it's the same girl.
She was on my "to do" list but I never got the chance before she stopped advertising. The Paloma I'm talking about had good reviews on the oThER site and was using this ad:
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/paloma-sexy-latina-come-see-me-today-habla-espanol-26/8494578
I guess you could ask her some questions in order to figure out if she's the same girl.
Good luck, stay safe and happy hunting!
Am I imagining things or has the number of providers charging 150+ for their HH session gone up dramatically? Those are prices that used to be charged mostly by the 260-300 per hr GFE+ girls. My guess is that a lot of them have figured out that many mongers opt for the shorter session to save $ or because they don't have a lot of time. But still, to have a price structure like 150/200 or 150/220 is just bizarre. There used to be many more good quality providers at the 80/100/120 per HH range and I'm not inclined to pay the higher price for average service just because they're afflicted with golden p*ssy syndrome.
I know the DMV has a reputation for mongers with more $ than sense, but it's getting f*cking ridiculous!
Since I stayed up all night trying to load a new software package onto my computer, I sent a note to a BP provider. This was around 4:30 am, and I was thinking she'd reply back sometime later in the morning. To my surprise, she was already awake, preparing to check out of her mid-range motel at 11 am. Asked if she wanted some company beforehand, and she said "Sure. " So, after a short excursion, I found her waiting in her room, wrapped in a towel that "fell off" when she began giving me a massage. Well, one thing led to another. I started giving her a massage and, before either of us knew it, we were locked in a coital embrace. At one point, after a couple of cums on her part, she began panting again and said (in a deep, breathy voice), "Damn, you are such a good f&#k!" (I've got that on video, which I was shooting at the time, so maybe I'll make an edited version of it available at some point, along with her BJ and HJ techniques, too.) Based on the situation, I don't think she uttered those words idly to bolster my ego or induce me to cum quickly. We stayed locked together for another 10 minutes. Then, I laid back and let her take command. She gave me a terrific BBBJ (with a technique that resembles her DFK) to conclusion. Afterwards, we cleaned up, shared some more DFK for a while, and then I departed so she could pack her things for checkout. All in all, it was a great Morning Delight.
She doesn't take all comers who call or email her. And even if you do get to see her, YMMV. You might just get a nice massage to relieve some stiff joints and other parts. Also, she won't be everyone's cup of tea. She's no spinner, shows a bit of her age, and does smoke. (In fact, she had been smoking in the room prior to my arrival, but the air was not heavy with the smell of cigarettes.) But, she is a nice gal and a warm cup of tea for me. So, I'll be making plans to see her again when she returns to the area. If any of you do see her, be sure to treat her nicely, like a lady ought to be treated. (To the one guy who tried to cum in her mouth during BBBJ, or perhaps failed to give her a warning beforehand: Shame on you. No lady should be surprised by anything except gifts, dinners, and flowers. Surprising her by cumming in her mouth is a no-no.).
As always, trusted Seniors will get priority replies, and Regulars with a significant amount of useful contributions will receive comparable info. If your post history is in the single digits, or consists mainly of "I agree" type of comments or requests for information, please expect a long interval between your PM to me and my reply back to you.
Roman.Figured out who that is. I always shave before seeing a girl, just my personal choice I figure they don't want a lot of hair around.
WebDog2015
08-28-15, 11:20
Am I imagining things or has the number of providers charging 150+ for their HH session gone up dramatically? Those are prices that used to be charged mostly by the 260-300 per hr GFE+ girls. My guess is that a lot of them have figured out that many mongers opt for the shorter session to save $ or because they don't have a lot of time. But still, to have a price structure like 150/200 or 150/220 is just bizarre. There used to be many more good quality providers at the 80/100/120 per HH range and I'm not inclined to pay the higher price for average service just because they're afflicted with golden p*ssy syndrome.
I know the DMV has a reputation for mongers with more $ than sense, but it's getting f*cking ridiculous!Of course we only have ourselves to blame -- who is paying this?? Can't be just be lobbyists.
I have notice inflation on the low-end too. But it seems cyclical. I used to hold out for $40-$50 and occasionally do $60-$80. That went away for a while, and so did I. Then the $40-$60 providers (including very high quality out of towners) came back. For most of the summer there were good options at that price point. Last few weeks, however, that is crept up. The quality you'd expect to see for $40 is demanding $60+ and you see a lot fewer quality $60 options in the suburbs vs SW DC, Oxon Hill, etc.
Like you I am noticing more $100 "QV"s and $150+ HH rates. Talking to providers in the past, they complained that in DMV the SS / QV thing was killing their business compared to other parts of the country where HH is the norm. A lot of providers used to (some still) post "No Short Stays" etc., but that genie is out of the bottle around here. Other parts of the country, it is HH minimum, but you'll see "$120 HH /$140 HR" rates and the alleged hour rate is not a true hour.
I prefer the SS / QV deal myself, unless it is a true 100% GFE / PSE++ player with MSOG, etc (pretty much limited to Thai or Taiwanese in my book).
WebDog2015
08-28-15, 11:32
To echo what JmSuttr said, the ostensible "racist" attitudes of many AMP girls and BP providers may be similar to Jesse Jackson's attitude when he once said: "There is nothing more painful to me. Than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. " It isn't that Jesse Jackson holds racist attitudes against other blacks; he was simply speaking from observation and, possibly, personal experience. He knows, but probably didn't want to say it, that black youth commit violent crime far out of proportion to their percentage in the general population. Likewise, this may explain the reluctance of many women, especially Asians, in the sex service industry. And, looking back at news reports even in this area, the reports of massage parlors being robbed (even one worker being killed) more often than not involve young black males. That may, and probably is, also a function of massage parlors being located in less-than-upscale neighborhoods or the best sections of a city. But, from the workers' standpoint, they just see the race of the individuals committing these violent crimes and make a reasonable risk-based judgment. Hence, the reluctance of many workers to see black men (or black men under a certain age). This, surprisingly or not, even occurs with black women providers.
So, the refusal of some providers to accept black clients is probably not best described as "racist", per se, but as risk-based (based on personal experience or news reports).This is very well put. This is now probably starting to run afoul of the forum rules, but I appreciate the discussion and the lucid explanation by Roman, as for me too way back when I definitely took offense to this thinking the provider must be some kind of white supremacist. Then I noticed it occurring equally or more often among black providers, and a couple OGs (in one case one of the true OGs on this site who happens to be black himself) explain that most often it is the "manager" who adds that language, and most often he himself matches the prohibited category.
The one thing that cracks me up, however, is when a provider is described as a "Snow Bunny" and has "No AA Men PERIOD!" in her post.
Isn't that a fundamental contradiction?
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-and-sexy-mature-european-women-call-now-you-will-not-be-disappointed/18686999
I felt like I had to post this so that you guys don't waste your time or $$ on this.
Text her during the day told her that I would like to see her later, she said ok. Asked if BBBJ is on the menu and she said yes, so figured worst case I would get that. Boy was I wrong. I texted her around 9 pm to see if I could see her at 9:30 pm, she texts me back at 9:45 acting like we never talked before. She kept stringing me along and finally said she can see me at 11 pm (red flag #1). I should've just gone home at this point but figured I waited this long so why not. I finally get directions to her place and it is a house in a quiet neighborhood (red flag #2), she comes out of the back of the house smoking and tells me to be quiet because her roommates are sleeping so we walk to the back of the house (red flag #3). We go to the basement and and it is a mess and nasty almost like a homeless person was living there, and then I finally get to see her face and she looked really really aged. She then walks me into a room that looked a hostage was kept there, really creepy with just a mattress and dim lighting (red flag #4). I'm sure everyone reading is wondering why I kept going at this point but figured I could get a quickie and go home. She then tells me that her fee is now 2. 00 even though her ad originally said 1. 85. At this point I didn't care I just wanted to get this over with. She tells me to just undress, no affection, no nothing. She undresses and it is not very good to look like, she looked so skinny with these bolt ons, not very attractive. She tells to me get on the bed, she sits next to me starts tugging and puts the hat on even before I could get it up, she starts sucking but nothing doing. She looks at with annoyance and asks what's wrong. I just couldn't get in the mood, asked about the BBBJ and she says I charge extra for that. I then ask I could DATY and she says no. So at this point I decide I'm giving up and offered to split the 2 and I'll take 1 back, but of course she says no. I rush out of there and balled out.
Very disappointing, probably my worst experience EVER.
Looks-2.
Personality - 2.
Service-2.
Overall - 2.
Roamin Roman
08-28-15, 14:13
This is very well put. This is now probably starting to run afoul of the forum rules, but I appreciate the discussion and the lucid explanation by Roman, as for me too way back when I definitely took offense to this thinking the provider must be some kind of white supremacist. Then I noticed it occurring equally or more often among black providers, and a couple OGs (in one case one of the true OGs on this site who happens to be black himself) explain that most often it is the "manager" who adds that language, and most often he himself matches the prohibited category.
The one thing that cracks me up, however, is when a provider is described as a "Snow Bunny" and has "No AA Men PERIOD!" in her post.
Isn't that a fundamental contradiction?Thanks, WD. Part of the reason for my post was to de-fuse this topic, before it got out of hand or ran afoul of the forum's rules (thus requiring A2 to step in).
It's aggravating and frustrating to be excluded simply on the basis of a physical characteristic over which one has no control. I used to have similar feelings when I was in my early 20's. Some of the ads would say, "No one under 25," for instance, and it would frustrate me because I knew I was well-behaved, etc. But, I learned to let it go and move on, figuring that the provider was the one ultimately the worse for it because she lost a potential reliable customer. "C'est la vie".
At any rate, the color that most providers are concerned with is GREEN.
Thanks, WD. Part of the reason for my post was to de-fuse this topic, before it got out of hand or ran afoul of the forum's rules (thus requiring A2 to step in).This is me stepping in, back to the pussy.
A2
Although I'd seen Ashleigh's ads before (mainly on the Baltimore BP boards, although she has advertised in other locales such as Pittsburgh, Chattanooga, Dallas, and Boston, too), but I had never been able to catch up with her when she was in town. Well, last week I finally got ahold of her at her Herndon area hotel and set up a visit. I'm happy to report that all of the positive comments online (in this forum and elsewhere) are very accurate.
Ashleigh is a sweet "bluebonnet" gal (originally from Texas) who provides a high-quality experience. The pictures in her ad are of her, and they are recent, but they probably don't quite do her complete justice. When you see her in person, you'll know what I mean. Her body type reminded me of the "soft body" porn actresses of the mid-to-late 1970's, as opposed to the "hard body" actresses of the 1980's and 1990's. She is tall (maybe 5'-8" trim (maybe 110# all-natural (maybe 36 C), with soft skin and pretty hands and feet. There is no bait-and-switch in her ads.
From the moment that she opened the door, until the moment I departed an hour later, she was constantly kissing. Well, not constantly, but this gal treats you like you were her boyfriend, with all the kisses she gives you throughout the session. And, she doesn't short you on time or rush you, either. She is very service-oriented in getting the job done, but without a businesslike attitude or demeanor. And, although she does smoke (as evidenced by the pack of cigarettes on the counter), she doesn't smoke during the time you're there. Neither did the room reek of cigarette smoke. The entire session was safe, but stimulating and enjoyable, and she can engage in intelligent conversation if you want to talk during your time. All in all, you will get what you paid for.
Will I repeat? That's hard to say. I enjoyed my time with her, absolutely, and there was nothing she did that was off-putting or negative. But, as a higher-quality provider who keeps herself in good shape and stays at upper mid-range hotels, her rates are a tad higher than the usual BP provider. Her rates aren't exorbitant, by any means, but I look at the extra. 2 to. 4 as being able to pay for a sufficiently satisfying experience with another, slightly-lower rate provider (or, a much more affordable provider such as the "4:30 am gal" whom I recently reviewed).
But don't let this discourage any of you from meeting her. This is just me and my perspective. I'm not saying that I couldn't or wouldn't see her again. In fact, I probably will, but I just can't make visits with her a regular part of my appetite. She's like a fine wine, when all you really want most times is the house's table wine. You save the fine wine for those special occasions, and drink the house wine when you want something that is more than sufficient to go with a good meal.
So, my recommendation on Ashleigh is this: Go see her. You are not likely to be disappointed. In fact, you're very likely to want to reassess your current choices and decide that a girl like Ashleigh (and she is very much a girly girl) will be worth the slightly higher rate than the disappointments you occasionally encounter with other BP providers. You just have to get it in your mind that higher quality warrants a higher rate. And, as I said, she won't cost you an arm and a leg (or any appendage, for that matter). You'll just have to make a slight adjustment to your current mongering budget.Just want to echo Roamin Roman's excellent review of Ashleigh. I saw her awhile ago, and haven't seen her ads much lately. My experience was just like his, and I so plan to see her again.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-and-sexy-mature-european-women-call-now-you-will-not-be-disappointed/18686999
I felt like I had to post this so that you guys don't waste your time or $$ on this.
Text her during the day told her that I would like to see her later, she said ok. Asked if BBBJ is on the menu and she said yes, so figured worst case I would get that. Boy was I wrong. I texted her around 9 pm to see if I could see her at 9:30 pm, she texts me back at 9:45 acting like we never talked before. She kept stringing me along and finally said she can see me at 11 pm (red flag #1). I should've just gone home at this point but figured I waited this long so why not. I finally get directions to her place and it is a house in a quiet neighborhood (red flag #2), she comes out of the back of the house smoking and tells me to be quiet because her roommates are sleeping so we walk to the back of the house (red flag #3). We go to the basement and and it is a mess and nasty almost like a homeless person was living there, and then I finally get to see her face and she looked really really aged. She then walks me into a room that looked a hostage was kept there, really creepy with just a mattress and dim lighting (red flag #4). I'm sure everyone reading is wondering why I kept going at this point but figured I could get a quickie and go home. She then tells me that her fee is now 2. 00 even though her ad originally said 1. 85. At this point I didn't care I just wanted to get this over with. She tells me to just undress, no affection, no nothing. She undresses and it is not very good to look like, she looked so skinny with these bolt ons, not very attractive. She tells to me get on the bed, she sits next to me starts tugging and puts the hat on even before I could get it up, she starts sucking but nothing doing. She looks at with annoyance and asks what's wrong. I just couldn't get in the mood, asked about the BBBJ and she says I charge extra for that. I then ask I could DATY and she says no. So at this point I decide I'm giving up and offered to split the 2 and I'll take 1 back, but of course she says no. I rush out of there and balled out.
Very disappointing, probably my worst experience EVER.
Looks-2.
Personality - 2.
Service-2.
Overall - 2.In addition to the red flags you identified, there were some others as well. Both image and phone number searches found no positive info at all: no reviews, no forum field reports and no ads other than her recent ones on the NOVA BP. That doesn't automatically mean she's a ripoff (or LEO) but it does mean you're rolling the dice on an unreviewed provider with no track record. The next big red flag was how flaky she became when you were trying to set up the appt. IME, once a provider starts getting flaky for no good reason, it's a pretty good indication that the session won't go well. And even if she said BBBJ was on the menu, her flakiness put everything she said in doubt. Now the best thing about these red flags, because they popped up before you got to the location, is that they could have helped you avoid the whole mess.
Once you got to the location more red flags revealed themselves but you were caught up in an all too common "oh well, I'm here already" mindset. One giant red flag, IMHO, was walking into the basement of an unknown residence, late at night, when you knew multiple persons were already inside. As far as hobbying locations are concerned, hotels are generally safe, an outcall to your location (although I don't recommend unless the provider is well-reviewed) is relatively safe, but the situation you describe, not so much. Then the nasty environment, seeing her aged face and her upsell from 185 to 200 were more red flag icing on the cake. Since no money had changed hands at any one of these points you would have been more than justified in making up an excuse and walking away.
BTW, it's a relief that all you lost was some money, because it could have definitely turned out worse for you. And thanks for TOFTT and for your post because now we know what the real story is with this provider. Wishing you safe hobbying and a better experience next time.
Pbarber307
08-29-15, 00:05
This ad in the "Women Seeking Men" section piqued my interest, as it has appeared recently and only a couple times. After initial contact and a couple follow-up emails, we set up a meeting time at her mid-scale motel in Springfield, VA. She gave me her room number when I arrived and called. When I walked in, I was met by a freshly-showered BBW, wrapped in a towel, who welcomed me with a DFK.
She loves giving sensual massages, and that is all the $ is for, but my charming personality and engaging conversation led to other activities after she finished. As you can see, a fun time was had by all. She's a BBW, but not in an obese or sloppy way, and on a scale of looks she is not unattractive for her 52 years. She is affectionate, enthusiastic, genuine, sweet, and very responsive. I will very likely repeat.
Seniors, and Regular members who have a history of useful participation, may PM me for contact info.
Roman.Yay. My first post. Saw this sweet older woman today. Set-up via email was easy; location, phone, and room number. She opened the door wearing only a T-shirt. I was pleasantly surprised. The looks and big soft body that I just adore. Light cursory massage, oral to get me excited, and went straight to exploring each other's bodies with lots of kisses. Many positions and finished with Russian. Talked for a while after and then showered together. Wow- great non-rushed GFE with the mature MILF next door!
Roamin Roman
08-29-15, 02:33
This is me stepping in, back to the pussy.
A2Some of us "got your back" (or try to) when you're temporarily away. : the.
Roamin Roman
08-29-15, 02:45
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-and-sexy-mature-european-women-call-now-you-will-not-be-disappointed/18686999
I felt like I had to post this so that you guys don't waste your time or $$ on this. . . .Very disappointing, probably my worst experience EVER.
Looks-2.
Personality - 2.
Service-2.
Overall - 2.Believe it or not, Jj, her ad also caught my eye this afternoon but I didn't have the time or opportunity to call her then. Now, after reading your review, I realize that nothing good would have come of visit to her. I'm sorry you fell into her scam but, as JmSuttr said, you're fortunate in the sense that you just lost $$. All of the red flags he (and you) mentioned indicate that the outcome of your visit could have been far, far worse.
In fact, this report and JmSuttr's reply, could make a good case study for posting in a "MUST READ" area of the USASG, perhaps to help save some future monger (s) from getting into a very ugly situation.
Thanks for your expansive, informative, and timely report.
Roamin Roman
08-29-15, 04:31
Yay. My first post. Saw this sweet older woman today. Set-up via email was easy; location, phone, and room number. She opened the door wearing only a T-shirt. I was pleasantly surprised. The looks and big soft body that I just adore. Light cursory massage, oral to get me excited, and went straight to exploring each other's bodies with lots of kisses. Many positions and finished with Russian. Talked for a while after and then showered together. Wow- great non-rushed GFE with the mature MILF next door!Since you posted a report about this gal, it's probably a good opportunity for me to say that she's now removed her posts from BP. Anyone who didn't strike while the iron was hot has probably missed his chance now. She has informed me, in a message this afternoon, that she has deleted her BP ads and is going to restrict her associations with her prior regulars and any new folks she met via her latest ads (now removed).
Here's what transpired:
I received a message from her last night. Apparently, LEO was stopping guys on the service road as they were coming to or leaving the hotel. LEO was "interviewing" the guys as to whether they were staying at the hotel and, if not, why they were visiting, whom they had seen, etc. Basically, typical LEO intimidation tactics, trying to get some unfortunate monger to self-incriminate or to spill the beans about a provider. (She also said, in her message, that when she was checking-in earlier that day, there were a couple of "working girls" who were checking-in ahead of her. It would seem that this hotel is a base of operations, so to speak, for the local 'entrepreneurial set' in Manassas.).
Anyway, one of the guys who visited her yesterday said that he was stopped and, when asked as to his reasons for being at the hotel, told LEO that "his back was hurting and he had met a girl who invited him to her room for a massage. " This scenario is a teachable moment, from a couple perspectives.
First, a monger who is stopped by LEO when arriving at or, more likely, departing from a provider's motel needs to be on the alert. That can be difficulty when the red lights appear in your rear view mirror. Whether you want to admit it or not, you've got a guilty conscience, and the LEO is not likely to give you time to deal with it or sort it out. LEO will probably ask you why you were at the motel (likely at a late hour when most people are sound asleep in their beds). Unfortunately, many will answer that they were visiting a friend (or something similar).
This question is a trap in the "interview" process. If you answer with something like, "I was visiting a friend, " the LEO will follow that up with "What is your friend's name?" or "Which room is your friend staying in?" LEO can easily verify your answers with the hotel front desk and, if you've given false info to LEO, they have grounds to detain you for lying to a police officer. And, if you can't provide the name of the "friend" that you ostensibly visited, they may have grounds to detain you for suspicious activity, perhaps in an area "known for prostitution" or some such. And, if you actually provide the room number of the provider that you just visited, LEO might pay a visit to the provider and, if the visit goes badly, both of you might find yourselves in deeper hot water. It can all get very ugly, very quickly. So, what to do?
If you ever get stopped by LEO upon arriving at, or departing from, a motel visit with a service provider, and they ask you "Why are you at this motel?, " you should NOT answer the question the way they want you to answer it. Instead of answering their question, you should ask them a question, something like "What's going on, officer? Why have you stopped me?" They won't like that sort of reply, but they may respond by saying that they are investigating reports of illegal activity at that location, etc.
Regardless, they will likely follow up their first question by asking (again) what you are doing there (at that time of night or whenever). Again, instead of answering the question that they pose, you should instead respond by asking them if you are being detained.
If they say "No, then you should ask them if you are free to leave. Since they have already stated that you aren't being detained, there is no reason for them to prevent you from leaving.
However, if they do prevent you from leaving, you then should ask why they told you weren't being detained and you are now actually being detained. They will definitely not like this sort of pushback, and they might even suggest that you could be taken to the police station for suspicion of whatever crime they suggest you might have been involved in. This can be a very unnerving situation to be in, but since they have no proof of you having done anything illegal and (hopefully) you have not admitted to anything or, for that matter, even answered their questions as to why you were even at that motel, they will most likely keep you there for a few minutes and then, after perhaps having taken your drivers license information, allow you to depart.
On the outside chance that they actually DO take you down to the local police station (and assuming that you've not given them any false information or, for that matter, even given an answer to their questions), they will have to provide an articulable reason for having done so. Regardless, it is incumbent on you to SAY NOTHING in response to their questions. The onus is on them to support their allegations.
They may try to say that, since you had no business being at the motel (I. E. , you weren't a registered guest), you *could* be cited for trespassing. However, the hotel management is the entity that needs to request that. The police cannot simply charge you with trespassing without a valid basis. And, unless the motel management can be induced into pressing such charges against you, it's unlikely that LEO will be able, or willing, to actually charge you with such an offense.
They key is this: If and when you ever get stopped by LEO after (or prior to) visiting a provider who is staying at a local motel, NEVER answer the questions that they put to you (aside from providing you license, if you are driving). Instead, ask why you have been stopped, are you being detained, and if you are free to leave.
You are not required to answer LEO's questions or provide any information to them except perhaps giving them your identification. They may, and most likely will, try to intimidate you into giving them the information they want (such as "Why are you here?" and "Who were you visiting?" but you do not have to provide that information or even say that you prefer not to answer those questions. Instead, ask them questions and let them provide answers to yours. If they accuse you of anything, let them prove it. But don't give them ammunition to use against you, even if both of you know what you were there for.
DO NOT get into long diatribes about your rights, the Constitution, etc. , etc. Instead, keep it simple and direct:
"Why have you stopped me?
"Am I being detained?"
"Am I free to leave?"
Saying much more than this can often get you tangled up in a web of your own making, one which you might not be able to extricate yourself from.
In addition to the red flags you identified, there were some others as well. Both image and phone number searches found no positive info at all: no reviews, no forum field reports and no ads other than her recent ones on the NOVA BP. That doesn't automatically mean she's a ripoff (or LEO) but it does mean you're rolling the dice on an unreviewed provider with no track record. The next big red flag was how flaky she became when you were trying to set up the appt. IME, once a provider starts getting flaky for no good reason, it's a pretty good indication that the session won't go well. And even if she said BBBJ was on the menu, her flakiness put everything she said in doubt. Now the best thing about these red flags, because they popped up before you got to the location, is that they could have helped you avoid the whole mess.
Once you got to the location more red flags revealed themselves but you were caught up in an all too common "oh well, I'm here already" mindset. One giant red flag, IMHO, was walking into the basement of an unknown residence, late at night, when you knew multiple persons were already inside. As far as hobbying locations are concerned, hotels are generally safe, an outcall to your location (although I don't recommend unless the provider is well-reviewed) is relatively safe, but the situation you describe, not so much. Then the nasty environment, seeing her aged face and her upsell from 185 to 200 were more red flag icing on the cake. Since no money had changed hands at any one of these points you would have been more than justified in making up an excuse and walking away.
BTW, it's a relief that all you lost was some money, because it could have definitely turned out worse for you. And thanks for TOFTT and for your post because now we know what the real story is with this provider. Wishing you safe hobbying and a better experience next time.Yeah, usually I know better and now that you mention it, I didn't even think of the other risks of the in-call.
I guess my stubbornness got the best of me, lesson learned for sure.
Saw this review for a while now and noticed a review on the oThER site so I thought I'd give her a try. Knew the pics were fake but because I generally like latinas and asians it couldn't be too bad.
Standard 2-3 call / text system got me to the location then the room number. As soon as I got in I noticed it's a fairly young / attractive looking latina (25-30 yo) with fake dyed blonde hair. She's a bit flabby but her tits were huge (I'm a tit man). Everything was covered but she had a disinterested attitude and mechanical level of service so pretty much a waste of time / money. Language barrier was also a bit high as I don't speak Spanish but even if I could I doubt it'd be better given the attitude.
Now I think there are a couple of providers working under the same number just in different rooms. The girl I got said her name was Camilia or something like that from Colombia while the previous review mentioned Mariana. Doesn't matter, though, as there are other latinas in nova that have better attitudes / service.
240-xxx-8231.
Miriam.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/amazing-total-package-latina/17757646
Since you posted a report about this gal, it's probably a good opportunity for me to say that she's now removed her posts from BP. Anyone who didn't strike while the iron was hot has probably missed his chance now. She has informed me, in a message this afternoon, that she has deleted her BP ads and is going to restrict her associations with her prior regulars and any new folks she met via her latest ads (now removed).
Here's what transpired:
I received a message from her last night. Apparently, LEO was stopping guys on the service road as they were coming to or leaving the hotel. LEO was "interviewing" the guys as to whether they were staying at the hotel and, if not, why they were visiting, whom they had seen, etc. Basically, typical LEO intimidation tactics, trying to get some unfortunate monger to self-incriminate or to spill the beans about a provider. (She also said, in her message, that when she was checking-in earlier that day, there were a couple of "working girls" who were checking-in ahead of her. It would seem that this hotel is a base of operations, so to speak, for the local 'entrepreneurial set' in Manassas.).
Anyway, one of the guys who visited her yesterday said that he was stopped and, when asked as to his reasons for being at the hotel, told LEO that "his back was hurting and he had met a girl who invited him to her room for a massage. " This scenario is a teachable moment, from a couple perspectives.
First, a monger who is stopped by LEO when arriving at or, more likely, departing from a provider's motel needs to be on the alert. That can be difficulty when the red lights appear in your rear view mirror. Whether you want to admit it or not, you've got a guilty conscience, and the LEO is not likely to give you time to deal with it or sort it out. LEO will probably ask you why you were at the motel (likely at a late hour when most people are sound asleep in their beds). Unfortunately, many will answer that they were visiting a friend (or something similar).
This question is a trap in the "interview" process. If you answer with something like, "I was visiting a friend, " the LEO will follow that up with "What is your friend's name?" or "Which room is your friend staying in?" LEO can easily verify your answers with the hotel front desk and, if you've given false info to LEO, they have grounds to detain you for lying to a police officer. And, if you can't provide the name of the "friend" that you ostensibly visited, they may have grounds to detain you for suspicious activity, perhaps in an area "known for prostitution" or some such. And, if you actually provide the room number of the provider that you just visited, LEO might pay a visit to the provider and, if the visit goes badly, both of you might find yourselves in deeper hot water. It can all get very ugly, very quickly. So, what to do?
If you ever get stopped by LEO upon arriving at, or departing from, a motel visit with a service provider, and they ask you "Why are you at this motel?, " you should NOT answer the question the way they want you to answer it. Instead of answering their question, you should ask them a question, something like "What's going on, officer? Why have you stopped me?" They won't like that sort of reply, but they may respond by saying that they are investigating reports of illegal activity at that location, etc.
Regardless, they will likely follow up their first question by asking (again) what you are doing there (at that time of night or whenever). Again, instead of answering the question that they pose, you should instead respond by asking them if you are being detained.
If they say "No, then you should ask them if you are free to leave. Since they have already stated that you aren't being detained, there is no reason for them to prevent you from leaving.
However, if they do prevent you from leaving, you then should ask why they told you weren't being detained and you are now actually being detained. They will definitely not like this sort of pushback, and they might even suggest that you could be taken to the police station for suspicion of whatever crime they suggest you might have been involved in. This can be a very unnerving situation to be in, but since they have no proof of you having done anything illegal and (hopefully) you have not admitted to anything or, for that matter, even answered their questions as to why you were even at that motel, they will most likely keep you there for a few minutes and then, after perhaps having taken your drivers license information, allow you to depart.
On the outside chance that they actually DO take you down to the local police station (and assuming that you've not given them any false information or, for that matter, even given an answer to their questions), they will have to provide an articulable reason for having done so. Regardless, it is incumbent on you to SAY NOTHING in response to their questions. The onus is on them to support their allegations.
They may try to say that, since you had no business being at the motel (I. E. , you weren't a registered guest), you *could* be cited for trespassing. However, the hotel management is the entity that needs to request that. The police cannot simply charge you with trespassing without a valid basis. And, unless the motel management can be induced into pressing such charges against you, it's unlikely that LEO will be able, or willing, to actually charge you with such an offense.
They key is this: If and when you ever get stopped by LEO after (or prior to) visiting a provider who is staying at a local motel, NEVER answer the questions that they put to you (aside from providing you license, if you are driving). Instead, ask why you have been stopped, are you being detained, and if you are free to leave.
You are not required to answer LEO's questions or provide any information to them except perhaps giving them your identification. They may, and most likely will, try to intimidate you into giving them the information they want (such as "Why are you here?" and "Who were you visiting?" but you do not have to provide that information or even say that you prefer not to answer those questions. Instead, ask them questions and let them provide answers to yours. If they accuse you of anything, let them prove it. But don't give them ammunition to use against you, even if both of you know what you were there for.
DO NOT get into long diatribes about your rights, the Constitution, etc. , etc. Instead, keep it simple and direct:
"Why have you stopped me?
"Am I being detained?"
"Am I free to leave?"
Saying much more than this can often get you tangled up in a web of your own making, one which you might not be able to extricate yourself from.Absolutely agree with everything RR says but just wanted to throw out another possible tactic. One of the key points in RR's analysis is that any factual info which can be checked with a 3rd party, and shown to be false, has the potential to get you in trouble or at least keep you in the thick of LEO's unwanted attention.
With all that in mind, one tactic which might work well is to have a simple story that gives LE no verification avenues to pursue. Here are a couple of examples:
I'm planning to have some work done at my home (apt / condo / house) and I'm checking out places to stay.
I'm looking for cheap places to stay for when friends / family come to visit.
And you can come up with others but the two most important points are 1) The story needs to explain in a legitimate way why you are inside / near a hotel, and 2) No named 3rd parties are involved. LEO may ask follow-up questions (Q: What kind of work? A: renovation, plumbing, carpet, fumigation, etc.) (Q: What family? A: No specific plans yet, just planning for the future.) but those shouldn't last long as they realize there's no one who can contradict you.
One advantage of this tactic is that it's less of a direct challenge and LEO may lose interest quickly when it becomes clear there are no leads to follow and no way to play "gotcha. " But the most important thing is that you have to think about this ahead of time so that it comes out of your mouth with some conviction and without hesitation.
And, even assuming a worst case scenario in which LEO doesn't want to buy your explanation and continues to question you, at that point you can always shift into a higher gear by switching to RR's plan, and challenging them as to whether you're being detained. In fact, it may be even a better set up because you can then say that you've given them a reasonable explanation for your presence and actions and so any further detention is unwarranted and unreasonable.
MrSunnyHills
08-29-15, 19:20
Absolutely agree with everything RR says but just wanted to throw out another possible tactic. One of the key points in RR's analysis is that any factual info which can be checked with a 3rd party, and shown to be false, has the potential to get you in trouble or at least keep you in the thick of LEO's unwanted attention.
With all that in mind, one tactic which might work well is to have a simple etc. etc. etc..I must say, it's great to have RR back in the area and of course JS has been stellar in the last year or 2. I've been mongering since the 80's and and given all the mongering I've done I still learn a lot every time I check out the board. Both of these posts are great advice. This comes from someone whose heart jumps in his throat when LE stops me for going 10 mph over the speed limit. Like JS says. Plan ahead. I must admit, I'm a lot like some of the girls. I like my regulars. Part of the reason I don't post a lot (aside from budget) is I like the comfort and safety of regulars. That's why referrals by these all stars are so useful. I wish I was rich and could monger more and give more back but my hat's off to these and many of the other regulars who provide so much in this relative "desert" of mongering.
Pizzlepro02
08-29-15, 21:33
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Did you miss the post where I said this was over?
A2
Since you posted a report about this gal, it's probably a good opportunity for me to say that she's now removed her posts from BP. Anyone who didn't strike while the iron was hot has probably missed his chance now. She has informed me, in a message this afternoon, that she has deleted her BP ads and is going to restrict her associations with her prior regulars and any new folks she met via her latest ads (now removed).
Here's what transpired:
I received a message from her last night. Apparently, LEO was stopping guys on the service road as they were coming to or leaving the hotel. LEO was "interviewing" the guys as to whether they were staying at the hotel and, if not, why they were visiting, whom they had seen, etc. Basically, typical LEO intimidation tactics, trying to get some unfortunate monger to self-incriminate or to spill the beans about a provider. (She also said, in her message, that when she was checking-in earlier that day, there were a couple of "working girls" who were checking-in ahead of her. It would seem that this hotel is a base of operations, so to speak, for the local 'entrepreneurial set' in Manassas.).
Anyway, one of the guys who visited her yesterday said that he was stopped and, when asked as to his reasons for being at the hotel, told LEO that "his back was hurting and he had met a girl who invited him to her room for a massage. " This scenario is a teachable moment, from a couple perspectives.
First, a monger who is stopped by LEO when arriving at or, more likely, departing from a provider's motel needs to be on the alert. That can be difficulty when the red lights appear in your rear view mirror. Whether you want to admit it or not, you've got a guilty conscience, and the LEO is not likely to give you time to deal with it or sort it out. LEO will probably ask you why you were at the motel (likely at a late hour when most people are sound asleep in their beds). Unfortunately, many will answer that they were visiting a friend (or something similar).
This question is a trap in the "interview" process. If you answer with something like, "I was visiting a friend, " the LEO will follow that up with "What is your friend's name?" or "Which room is your friend staying in?" LEO can easily verify your answers with the hotel front desk and, if you've given false info to LEO, they have grounds to detain you for lying to a police officer. And, if you can't provide the name of the "friend" that you ostensibly visited, they may have grounds to detain you for suspicious activity, perhaps in an area "known for prostitution" or some such. And, if you actually provide the room number of the provider that you just visited, LEO might pay a visit to the provider and, if the visit goes badly, both of you might find yourselves in deeper hot water. It can all get very ugly, very quickly. So, what to do?
If you ever get stopped by LEO upon arriving at, or departing from, a motel visit with a service provider, and they ask you "Why are you at this motel?, " you should NOT answer the question the way they want you to answer it. Instead of answering their question, you should ask them a question, something like "What's going on, officer? Why have you stopped me?" They won't like that sort of reply, but they may respond by saying that they are investigating reports of illegal activity at that location, etc.
Regardless, they will likely follow up their first question by asking (again) what you are doing there (at that time of night or whenever). Again, instead of answering the question that they pose, you should instead respond by asking them if you are being detained.
If they say "No, then you should ask them if you are free to leave. Since they have already stated that you aren't being detained, there is no reason for them to prevent you from leaving.
However, if they do prevent you from leaving, you then should ask why they told you weren't being detained and you are now actually being detained. They will definitely not like this sort of pushback, and they might even suggest that you could be taken to the police station for suspicion of whatever crime they suggest you might have been involved in. This can be a very unnerving situation to be in, but since they have no proof of you having done anything illegal and (hopefully) you have not admitted to anything or, for that matter, even answered their questions as to why you were even at that motel, they will most likely keep you there for a few minutes and then, after perhaps having taken your drivers license information, allow you to depart.
On the outside chance that they actually DO take you down to the local police station (and assuming that you've not given them any false information or, for that matter, even given an answer to their questions), they will have to provide an articulable reason for having done so. Regardless, it is incumbent on you to SAY NOTHING in response to their questions. The onus is on them to support their allegations.
They may try to say that, since you had no business being at the motel (I. E. , you weren't a registered guest), you *could* be cited for trespassing. However, the hotel management is the entity that needs to request that. The police cannot simply charge you with trespassing without a valid basis. And, unless the motel management can be induced into pressing such charges against you, it's unlikely that LEO will be able, or willing, to actually charge you with such an offense.
They key is this: If and when you ever get stopped by LEO after (or prior to) visiting a provider who is staying at a local motel, NEVER answer the questions that they put to you (aside from providing you license, if you are driving). Instead, ask why you have been stopped, are you being detained, and if you are free to leave.
You are not required to answer LEO's questions or provide any information to them except perhaps giving them your identification. They may, and most likely will, try to intimidate you into giving them the information they want (such as "Why are you here?" and "Who were you visiting?" but you do not have to provide that information or even say that you prefer not to answer those questions. Instead, ask them questions and let them provide answers to yours. If they accuse you of anything, let them prove it. But don't give them ammunition to use against you, even if both of you know what you were there for.
DO NOT get into long diatribes about your rights, the Constitution, etc. , etc. Instead, keep it simple and direct:
"Why have you stopped me?
"Am I being detained?"
"Am I free to leave?"
Saying much more than this can often get you tangled up in a web of your own making, one which you might not be able to extricate yourself from.This is such a great post and thank you for sharing. I did have one follow up question. I know that LEO will ask several times and in different ways. So my question is:
- Can they arrest you for not answering their question. They are going to ask you 100 times what were you doing at that hotel. If my answer is always another question then.
Can they say I wasn't answering that question.
- Lastely, at some point can you invoice your right to a lawyer to get them to shut up?
Just wondering. However, this is a great post!! Thanks.
This is such a great post and thank you for sharing. I did have one follow up question. I know that LEO will ask several times and in different ways. So my question is:
- Can they arrest you for not answering their question. They are going to ask you 100 times what were you doing at that hotel. If my answer is always another question then.
Can they say I wasn't answering that question.
- Lastely, at some point can you invoice your right to a lawyer to get them to shut up?
W
Just wondering. However, this is a great post!! Thanks.The police can't arrest you for not answering the questions. That said, you might have given them other reasons to haul you in, like an empty beer can in the backseat or a roach clip in the ashtray.
Make sure you have a lawyer to call when you invoke right to counsel or ask the court to provide one. However, you might have to prove you are too poor to afford one yourself.
Remember, you can alway take the 5th. You can't testify against yourself. The smartest this as mentioned is to be quiet. Don't give them any guff, but don't give them anythng to work with. What were you doing there? Don't answer. Where do you live? Point to your drivers license. Can we look inside your vehicle SAY NOT WITH OUT A SEARCH WARRANT. If they ask you to get out of the vehicle, roll up th windows, set out, close and lock the door.
Bunker Buster
08-30-15, 21:17
I'm planning to have some work done at my home (apt / condo / house) and I'm checking out places to stay.
I'm looking for cheap places to stay for when friends / family come to visit.
And you can come up with others but the two most important points are 1) The story needs to explain in a legitimate way why you are inside / near a hotel, and 2) No named 3rd parties are involved. LEO may ask follow-up questions (Q: What kind of work? A: renovation, plumbing, carpet, fumigation, etc.) (Q: What family? A: No specific plans yet, just planning for the future.) but those shouldn't last long as they realize there's no one who can contradict you.
One advantage of this tactic is that it's less of a direct challenge and LEO may lose interest quickly when it becomes clear there are no leads to follow and no way to play "gotcha. "
And, even assuming a worst case scenario in which LEO doesn't want to buy your explanation and continues to question you, at that point you can always shift into a higher gear by switching to RR's plan, and challenging them as to whether you're being detained. In fact, it may be even a better set up because you can then say that you've given them a reasonable explanation for your presence and actions and so any further detention is unwarranted and unreasonable.Saying you're looking for a place to stay during home renovations will prompt the question "which contractor are you using?' If you don't already have one, the next question will be "so you're looking for hotels before looking at contractors? And you're doing it at 1:00 am?
"I'm looking for cheap places for family to stay" will prompt the follow-up: "Really? Why are you looking at a motel on Richmond Highway if you live in Arlington?
Unless you have law, debate, improv, or police training, or are a glib sociopath who can fabricate lies and stay consistent, you are NOT good enough to out-bullshit cops who are interrogating you, and will only dig the hole for yourself. When you start answering questions then clam up, your change in behavior gives them reasonable suspicion to keep working you over and ramp up their threat / intimidation protocol.
The better course is to follow Roman's advice of not answering the question they've asked. If they press you for specific answers, you can say something about your mother not letting you answer questions without a lawyer present.
The ONE exception is if the hotel has a restaurant you already know the name of, and you're there during business hours. The Days Inn on Columbia Pink has a respectable Thai place, and when I used to see Latinas there (became too hot 2 years ago) I'd regularly stop in and order takeout before going to an appointment, then go home and eat afterwards.
"I'm going to the restaurant" or "I'm waiting for my order" is an excellent reason to be there.
WebDog2015
08-30-15, 23:00
This is a great discussion and really merits its own thread. In the meantime, great advice by many, especially Roman.
With all due respect JmSuttr, absolutely not. You do NOT want to talk AT ALL. You definitely DO NOT want to offer an alternative, seemingly plausible story. SAY NOTHING.
If you have not been through the process before, what you need to know is that cops do this every day, multiple times a day, for years in most cases. They know you're lying, or simply assume it. They know why you're there, or suspect it, and all know that you could be the next Ted Bundy with a dead hooker in your trunk. Lying will get you jammed up every time.
To Ltnric's point (but a slight tweak on it), cops *CAN* arrest you for not answering questions. Not legally, and they probably won't, but they can arrested you for whatever they want. And they will tell you that, and will do everything in their bag of tricks to manipulate you into answering. Trying to reason with them or trying to be a nice guy will not help in any way. They are not there looking to make friends.
If you walk into an actual sting, there is not much you can do. But you can prepare yourself. If you are arrested, you do need counsel and should ask for it immediately. If have not given anything up, however, your chances of getting arrested are low. The only time is when you walk into a room that is an actual trap, or if you have a hooker in your car. It will NOT happen when you are alone in your car on the way to a hotel.
I have had many close calls. In only a couple cases did I ever give anything up and compromise myself. But never did I give up I'd. I did learn quickly, however, not to bullshit and just to shutup.
ALSO KEEP IN MIND that DC and VA are "one-party consent" states, where YOU do not have to consent to have your conversation recorded. MD is under "all-party consent" law where cops can't record your phone call or conversation and use it against you.
A friend of mine was not so lucky. Walked into a sting in MoCo MD about 6 months ago. I didn't post about it at the time because it was really close to home, and except for in a thread like this there not much to discuss.
Again, this was in MD where it "all-party consent" so there was no transcript. He did everything wrong. He was arrested and plead according to the instructions of his lawyer, the case was continued indefinitely. Which is what usually happens. But his life was already ruined because his wife, his employer, his friends new all about it. In the Internet age, that's what happens. The actual legal consequences are immaterial compared to the life-changing social / relationship / career impact.
Here is what he didn't do that you should learn from:
- Use a burner app (not just a TracFone -- but a burner app on a TracFone) and clear it all out before walking in.
- SAY NOTHING; no matter what they say to you just repeat the lines that Roman provided; if they persist and say "You ARE in BIG trouble" then tell them you have nothing more to say until your attorney is present.
- Being arrested and arraigned is not as bad as being prosecuted (which almost never happens); if its a sting where you've walked in a room full of cops, you're going to be arrested, but surviving it depends on keeping your mouth shut.
- Outside of your car, keep nothing in your pocket but car keys; when asked for I'd, you repeat Roman's lines; if you are actually arrested it is "I'm going to remain silent and would like to see a lawyer. ".
- Inside your car, don't hesitate to show your license as long as you SHUT UP about everything else and have cleared your burner app and have nothing to incriminate you; you cannot be arrested for driving to a hotel where the may be hookers and that is not how they will setup a sting.
AND AS ARAGORN SAYS BELOW: KNOW WHO YOU'RE GOING TO CALL
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If you walk into an actual sting, there is not much you can do. But you can prepare yourself. If you are arrested, you do need counsel and should ask for it immediately. If have not given anything up, however, your chances of getting arrested are low. The only time is when you walk into a room that is an actual trap,
- Use a burner app (not just a TracFone -- but a burner app on a TracFone) and clear it all out before walking in.
I am usually loathe to visit an unreviewed provider, but when I do I make the appointment asking about a "modeling session". I show up with a sketch pad and a couple of pencils. I ask the provider to disrobe and strike a pose. At this point any police officer will stall, so I just say "I can't do my art in these conditions" recover my donation and leave. So far this is theoretical, as all women have willingly stripped. They giggle when I toss aside the pad and I say "you're too hot to sketch, lets fuck. ".
What kind of burner app for a burner phone are you talking about?
1. Why have I been stopped? Regardless of the answer #2 is the same.
2. Am I being detained?
Yes=Lawyer.
No= 3.
3. Am I free to go?
Yes=Go.
No=Lawyer.
Done.
WebDog2015
08-31-15, 00:03
What kind of burner app for a burner phone are you talking about?I'd suggest either Burner or CoverMe (probably the latter is safest).
http://www.coverme.ws/en/index.html
The sketchpad / modeling routine is clever. Either way, silence is the best defense under all circumstances.
This is a great discussion and really merits its own thread. In the meantime, great advice by many, especially Roman.
With all due respect JmSuttr, absolutely not. You do NOT want to talk AT ALL. You definitely DO NOT want to offer an alternative, seemingly plausible story. SAY NOTHING.
If you have not been through the process before, what you need to know is that cops do this every day, multiple times a day, for years in most cases. They know you're lying, or simply assume it. They know why you're there, or suspect it, and all know that you could be the next Ted Bundy with a dead hooker in your trunk. Lying will get you jammed up every time.
To Ltnric's point (but a slight tweak on it), cops *CAN* arrest you for not answering questions. Not legally, and they probably won't, but they can arrested you for whatever they want. And they will tell you that, and will do everything in their bag of tricks to manipulate you into answering. Trying to reason with them or trying to be a nice guy will not help in any way. They are not there looking to make friends.
If you walk into an actual sting, there is not much you can do. But you can prepare yourself. If you are arrested, you do need counsel and should ask for it immediately. If have not given anything up, however, your chances of getting arrested are low. The only time is when you walk into a room that is an actual trap, or if you have a hooker in your car. It will NOT happen when you are alone in your car on the way to a hotel.
I have had many close calls. In only a couple cases did I ever give anything up and compromise myself. But never did I give up I'd. I did learn quickly, however, not to bullshit and just to shutup.
ALSO KEEP IN MIND that DC and VA are "one-party consent" states, where YOU do not have to consent to have your conversation recorded. MD is under "all-party consent" law where cops can't record your phone call or conversation and use it against you.
A friend of mine was not so lucky. Walked into a sting in MoCo MD about 6 months ago. I didn't post about it at the time because it was really close to home, and except for in a thread like this there not much to discuss.
Again, this was in MD where it "all-party consent" so there was no transcript. He did everything wrong. He was arrested and plead according to the instructions of his lawyer, the case was continued indefinitely. Which is what usually happens. But his life was already ruined because his wife, his employer, his friends new all about it. In the Internet age, that's what happens. The actual legal consequences are immaterial compared to the life-changing social / relationship / career impact.
Here is what he didn't do that you should learn from:
- Use a burner app (not just a TracFone -- but a burner app on a TracFone) and clear it all out before walking in.
- SAY NOTHING; no matter what they say to you just repeat the lines that Roman provided; if they persist and say "You ARE in BIG trouble" then tell them you have nothing more to say until your attorney is present.
- Being arrested and arraigned is not as bad as being prosecuted (which almost never happens); if its a sting where you've walked in a room full of cops, you're going to be arrested, but surviving it depends on keeping your mouth shut.
- Outside of your car, keep nothing in your pocket but car keys; when asked for I'd, you repeat Roman's lines; if you are actually arrested it is "I'm going to remain silent and would like to see a lawyer. ".
- Inside your car, don't hesitate to show your license as long as you SHUT UP about everything else and have cleared your burner app and have nothing to incriminate you; you cannot be arrested for driving to a hotel where the may be hookers and that is not how they will setup a sting.
AND AS ARAGORN SAYS BELOW: KNOW WHO YOU'RE GOING TO CALLIMHO, the strategy you and some others are advocating is right on point when it comes to standing up for your Constitutional rights. But defaulting directly to that strategy (again, IMHO) has a high probability of painting a target on your back by engaging in what is sometimes called "contempt of cop. " And once you piss off a LEO they will bend over backwards to teach you a lesson so, if there is any conceivable rationale for arresting your ass they will find it (trespassing, jaywalking, whatever).
If you've ever talked with someone in LE after they've had a few beers you'd come away with an interesting perspective about how low the threshold can be to arrest someone and how creative they can be in reporting the "incident. " And as long as they can spin some halfway believable BS justification for arresting you, they're pretty much untouchable (and they know it).
Now I'm not married and don't have a job that requires a security clearance, but for those who don't share those luxuries, an arrest can have consequences nearly as bad as a conviction in that it has to be reported and explained.
So the entire extent of my contribution is geared toward making LEO bored with you and impatient to move on, rather than pissed. But, for those who feel the best way to go is a balls-to-the-wall "I don't got to tell you nuthin" attitude, go ahead and knock yourselves out.
My thoughts are that you can always elevate to that level if you need to but, if that's your opening move, it's pretty hard to climb down from there.
But I'm hopeful at least that we can all agree that better homework and thinking with the big head is the best way to keep yourself out if that situation in the first place.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
WebDog2015
08-31-15, 08:10
We're not disagreeing unless you're advocating making up a story.
You do NOT want to aggravate a cop either way. But lying the them will piss them of more and faster than simply asking "what is this about?" and ultimately "Am I free to go?
If you walk into a room that is a sting, you STFU. Nothing you say will prevent you from being arrested. Saying you're just trying to find your lost dog or whatever is not going to cut it.
If you're pullover over, alone, as Roman described, you STFU and you WON'T be arrested. You have to talk yourself into an arrest under those circumstances. Don't it it.
IMHO, the strategy you and some others are advocating is right on point when it comes to standing up for your Constitutional rights. But defaulting directly to that strategy (again, IMHO) has a high probability of painting a target on your back by engaging in what is sometimes called "contempt of cop. " And once you piss off a LEO they will bend over backwards to teach you a lesson so, if there is any conceivable rationale for arresting your ass they will find it (trespassing, jaywalking, whatever).
If you've ever talked with someone in LE after they've had a few beers you'd come away with an interesting perspective about how low the threshold can be to arrest someone and how creative they can be in reporting the "incident. " And as long as they can spin some halfway believable BS justification for arresting you, they're pretty much untouchable (and they know it).
Now I'm not married and don't have a job that requires a security clearance, but for those who don't share those luxuries, an arrest can have consequences nearly as bad as a conviction in that it has to be reported and explained.
So the entire extent of my contribution is geared toward making LEO bored with you and impatient to move on, rather than pissed. But, for those who feel the best way to go is a balls-to-the-wall "I don't got to tell you nuthin" attitude, go ahead and knock yourselves out.
My thoughts are that you can always elevate to that level if you need to but, if that's your opening move, it's pretty hard to climb down from there.
But I'm hopeful at least that we can all agree that better homework and thinking with the big head is the best way to keep yourself out if that situation in the first place.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-pinayin-call-or-out-call/14443049
Nice GFEish (YMMV) Filipina MILF, well-reviewed on the oThER site, who rarely offers incall so thought I would post this as a heads-up for anyone who has her on their "to do" list and, as A2 likes to say, to move the board discussion Back to the Pussy.
Maya also advertised incall yesterday so not sure how long this current offer will last. Her initial price quote can be a bit higher than average but I've had luck getting it lowered by calling during the day or during a slow time.
She also offers doubles with Michelle which I've read is a good experience but I haven't taken that plunge yet. It may not be offered on the first visit but just another piece of intel to have.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/e-michelle-tysons/13075703
WebDog2015
08-31-15, 22:24
Agreed JmSuttr.
Had a rare repeat tonight with a great provider I reviewed before. In Manassas (clear sailing coming and going). She said she is leaving tomorrow, so it maybe moot. But it was once again the best $60 I have spent in a while (since the last time I saw her).
Saying you're looking for a place to stay during home renovations will prompt the question "which contractor are you using?' If you don't already have one, the next question will be "so you're looking for hotels before looking at contractors? And you're doing it at 1:00 am?
"I'm looking for cheap places for family to stay" will prompt the follow-up: "Really? Why are you looking at a motel on Richmond Highway if you live in Arlington?
Unless you have law, debate, improv, or police training, or are a glib sociopath who can fabricate lies and stay consistent, you are NOT good enough to out-bullshit cops who are interrogating you, and will only dig the hole for yourself. When you start answering questions then clam up, your change in behavior gives them reasonable suspicion to keep working you over and ramp up their threat / intimidation protocol.
The better course is to follow Roman's advice of not answering the question they've asked. If they press you for specific answers, you can say something about your mother not letting you answer questions without a lawyer present.
The ONE exception is if the hotel has a restaurant you already know the name of, and you're there during business hours. The Days Inn on Columbia Pink has a respectable Thai place, and when I used to see Latinas there (became too hot 2 years ago) I'd regularly stop in and order takeout before going to an appointment, then go home and eat afterwards.
"I'm going to the restaurant" or "I'm waiting for my order" is an excellent reason to be there.I'm a glib sociopath.
Sunday had me feeling itchy, so I found relief with Nikky, the BBW MILF previously reviewed. I visited her in her modest home in a rapidly gentrifying part of Arlington. She is much shorter than I expected. Walked to her back bedroom, she is still packing, and will be forever. Started with DFK as I played with those magnificent tits. We quickly stripped and she went to BBBJ. Great mouth, especially with those big brown eyes looking up at me.
Moved to mish, she is very tight. DFK and nipple sucking as I bang her and my body betrays me. I had fun and will repeat.
Bunker Buster
09-01-15, 07:23
Unless you have law, debate, improv, or police training, or are a glib sociopath who can fabricate lies and stay consistent, you are NOT good enough to out-bullshit cops who are interrogating you
I'm a glib sociopath.Yes, but so are some of the cops. And one sociopath can often spot another quicker than the average rube can.
So says 'The Sociopath,' an author who writes about his own sociopathy, and has a blog where sociopaths, psychopaths, borderline personalities, narcissists, and groupies (I'm not making that up) exchange ideas and experiences. Maybe you can find your dream girl on one of the discussion pages. LOL.
http://www.sociopathworld.com/2013/02/sociopaths-recognizing-each-other-and.html
BB I have to say I'm a little scared that you even know of that site lol.
A2
Agreed JmSuttr.
Had a rare repeat tonight with a great provider I reviewed before. In Manassas (clear sailing coming and going). She said she is leaving tomorrow, so it maybe moot. But it was once again the best $60 I have spent in a while (since the last time I saw her).http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/montgomery-county-investigates-fat-boy-the-pimp-part-2/19088301
Be careful with her since MOCO is looking for her.
This is a fine line to walk. Being concerned about why law enforcement is questioning you, trying not to seem too uncooperative, yet not giving up any information to incriminate yourself in any way. There are various ways to handle things once an officer is questioning you. But having the law enforcement in my family, I can confirm that the police can arrest you if they decide to. They have hundreds of ordinances, some very obscure, that they can run you in for violating. And even if they misuse the laws, they have got you.
For instance, they can pull you over for "unclocked speeding" and "see you shove something under your seat. " Then they frisk you, ask to search your vehicle, you mention getting a warrant, and it just goes downhill from there. Basically, it is your word versus theirs and they can book you for any myriad of "reasons. " (Yes, this has happened to me.) And you have a lot of explaining to do.
One time I got stopped for driving too close to the center line. "Was I over the center line?" "No, but you were inching up to it. I need to see your licese and registration. Would you mind stepping out of the car for me?" Do you get out or start down the path of, "Why?" (Yes, this one happened to me too.).
It is a no win situation. But the best advice I can offer is do not lie to them. Just be nice and STFU. It is often the coverup, not the crime itself that will bring you down.
Good luck avoiding the interaction in the first place.
Be careful out there.
IMHO, the strategy you and some others are advocating is right on point when it comes to standing up for your Constitutional rights. But defaulting directly to that strategy (again, IMHO) has a high probability of painting a target on your back by engaging in what is sometimes called "contempt of cop. " And once you piss off a LEO they will bend over backwards to teach you a lesson so, if there is any conceivable rationale for arresting your ass they will find it (trespassing, jaywalking, whatever).
If you've ever talked with someone in LE after they've had a few beers you'd come away with an interesting perspective about how low the threshold can be to arrest someone and how creative they can be in reporting the "incident. " And as long as they can spin some halfway believable BS justification for arresting you, they're pretty much untouchable (and they know it).
Now I'm not married and don't have a job that requires a security clearance, but for those who don't share those luxuries, an arrest can have consequences nearly as bad as a conviction in that it has to be reported and explained.
So the entire extent of my contribution is geared toward making LEO bored with you and impatient to move on, rather than pissed. But, for those who feel the best way to go is a balls-to-the-wall "I don't got to tell you nuthin" attitude, go ahead and knock yourselves out.
My thoughts are that you can always elevate to that level if you need to but, if that's your opening move, it's pretty hard to climb down from there.
But I'm hopeful at least that we can all agree that better homework and thinking with the big head is the best way to keep yourself out if that situation in the first place.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
I was able to make a visit to this mature lady last Thursday. Her responses were quick and immediate. She doesn't waste time while communcating. I contacted her two weeks ago while she was in Springfield. Since I can't make it to Springfield, I asked if she can contact me once she travels back to Manassas.
4 days later she emails me and gives me her schedule. We made an appointment for last Thursday. While traveling to her hotel, I encountered lots of traffic. I emailed her stating my situation and she was very accomdating.
On my way over she sent me a few pics to keep me interested.
I arrived at the hotel and she gives me her room number at a low end motel already mentioned. Luckily I didn't come across any LE.
A older mature lady opens the door and behind it she's wearing only a bath towel. We introduce ourselves. She then asks me to place the donation for a massage only on the tv. Anything else that happens between us is free.
She gives me a lackluster massage that didn't do much for me nor did it last longer than 1 min. She has me flip and the fun starts.
BBBJ and K9, then I was done. All of the pics she sent me made me extra excited.
For $ I will repeat again.
Body: 6-7.
Face: 4.
Willingness: 8.
Member #6235
09-01-15, 11:36
Anyways back to reviewing instead of talking about LEOs and stuff, we should have a separate forum for that.
Decided to visit Maya again after reading this guys post about incall! She rarely offers incalls. She prefers texting soo I texted my way to her area, Tysons vicinity lovely area by the way, upscale corporate area. I had to wait a few min after parking, because it was a gated community (decent apt / condo), She got me thru the gate, and into the apt, she introduced me to her friend who was very similar and friendly we chit chat for a couple minutes and then her friend had to continue with errands, we then proceeded to the bedroom. It was a simplistic bedroom, just a full size bed in it, I began to undress and she begins with the best BBBJ I have ever had, it was about 10-15 min session I guess she loved it, extremely hard not to release so early! Then she asks which position and covered it up, I began mish for several minutes and doggy to finish for another several minutes. I was in andout in about a good 30-35 min.
She has a really high rate, but I asked for the "average" half xD, the best I have ever spent!
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-pinayin-call-or-out-call/14443049
Nice GFEish (YMMV) Filipina MILF, well-reviewed on the oThER site, who rarely offers incall so thought I would post this as a heads-up for anyone who has her on their "to do" list and, as A2 likes to say, to move the board discussion Back to the Pussy.
Maya also advertised incall yesterday so not sure how long this current offer will last. Her initial price quote can be a bit higher than average but I've had luck getting it lowered by calling during the day or during a slow time.
She also offers doubles with Michelle which I've read is a good experience but I haven't taken that plunge yet. It may not be offered on the first visit but just another piece of intel to have.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/e-michelle-tysons/13075703
Am I imagining things or has the number of providers charging 150+ for their HH session gone up dramatically? Those are prices that used to be charged mostly by the 260-300 per hr GFE+ girls. My guess is that a lot of them have figured out that many mongers opt for the shorter session to save $ or because they don't have a lot of time. But still, to have a price structure like 150/200 or 150/220 is just bizarre. There used to be many more good quality providers at the 80/100/120 per HH range and I'm not inclined to pay the higher price for average service just because they're afflicted with golden p*ssy syndrome.
I know the DMV has a reputation for mongers with more $ than sense, but it's getting f*cking ridiculous!On the other website, you can see the trend of escorts who have their own websites charging $350-400 or even higher for an hour. On the one hand, they are beautiful young women who will give you a great performance for that hour but the increase in rates in the past two years or so is getting crazy. For the average joe, $350 is what you might make for working two days after taxes. DC has a lot of highly paid professionals so the market is there for high priced escorts. Canada is not too far away and the US dollar is strong now so the going rate in Canada is much more reasonable, at $150 or so for the hour.
I am definitely getting priced out of the market here in DC. Yes, there are cheaper BP girls but it is very hit and miss as you can tell from these postings and a number of the girls are less than desirable from an attractiveness standpoint.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/montgomery-county-investigates-fat-boy-the-pimp-part-2/19088301
Be careful with her since MOCO is looking for her."Bean and Brooks" They should get out of the sex game and start a coffee shop.
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BonnieBlaz
09-01-15, 15:51
On the other website, you can see the trend of escorts who have their own websites charging $350-400 or even higher for an hour. On the one hand, they are beautiful young women who will give you a great performance for that hour but the increase in rates in the past two years or so is getting crazy. For the average joe, $350 is what you might make for working two days after taxes. DC has a lot of highly paid professionals so the market is there for high priced escorts. Canada is not too far away and the US dollar is strong now so the going rate in Canada is much more reasonable, at $150 or so for the hour.
I am definitely getting priced out of the market here in DC. Yes, there are cheaper BP girls but it is very hit and miss as you can tell from these postings and a number of the girls are less than desirable from an attractiveness standpoint.I know that is right but some girls feel like their better than streetwalkers and raise the prices just because some other person will pay it!!
This is a fine line to walk.Yes, exactly. We can't be reminded enough that the hobby is not a risk-free endeavor. And as we've seen in recent posts, there are plenty of opinions and strategies which are mostly based on something experienced personally, or to an acquaintance or family member, or maybe from knowing someone who works in LE or from things read or seen. Lots of good info and advice but it's also true that for every strategy there will always be a "Yes, but" response because no two mongers (et tu, glib sociopath?) and no two LEO encounters are alike. Being challenged inside a NoTel at 1:00 am is different than walking through the Westin at 7:00 pm. And one LEO could be a lazy SOB who just wants to clock out while another is a total bulldog.
Those unknown variables mean there's no "one size fits all" solution" and that fine line is something every monger needs to work out for himself. If, as I mentioned in an earlier post, you have an SO or need to keep a security clearance to remain employed, your risk management concerns are significantly different than those of someone not in that situation.
But the great thing about this forum is that resources and intel are shared that help reduce that risk, but only IF they're used. The biggest dangers are complacency, not taking the time to do good homework and acting on impulse instead of thinking with the big head. So it's my hope is that these discussions help everyone remember that it's not just money that's at stake.
Happy Hunting and Stay Safe!
Yes, but so are some of the cops. And one sociopath can often spot another quicker than the average rube can.
So says 'The Sociopath,' an author who writes about his own sociopathy, and has a blog where sociopaths, psychopaths, borderline personalities, narcissists, and groupies (I'm not making that up) exchange ideas and experiences. Maybe you can find your dream girl on one of the discussion pages. LOL.
http://www.sociopathworld.com/2013/02/sociopaths-recognizing-each-other-and.html
BB I have to say I'm a little scared that you even know of that site lol.
A2I shudder to think!
Anyways back to reviewing instead of talking about LEOs and stuff, we should have a separate forum for that.
Decided to visit Maya again after reading this guys post about incall! She rarely offers incalls. She prefers texting soo I texted my way to her area, Tysons vicinity lovely area by the way, upscale corporate area. I had to wait a few min after parking, because it was a gated community (decent apt / condo), She got me thru the gate, and into the apt, she introduced me to her friend who was very similar and friendly we chit chat for a couple minutes and then her friend had to continue with errands, we then proceeded to the bedroom. It was a simplistic bedroom, just a full size bed in it, I began to undress and she begins with the best BBBJ I have ever had, it was about 10-15 min session I guess she loved it, extremely hard not to release so early! Then she asks which position and covered it up, I began mish for several minutes and doggy to finish for another several minutes. I was in andout in about a good 30-35 min.
She has a really high rate, but I asked for the "average" half xD, the best I have ever spent!Glad you had a good time! I know she quotes a higher rate when you first call but can sometimes be persuaded to go lower. What was her initial price and what did you finally settle on? Did you see her in the daytime or at night?
Also, if she's working out of an apt / condo it's possible she's changed her business model and will no longer be outcall only. Maybe she's sharing the cost with her friend Michelle.
Bunker Buster
09-01-15, 18:56
http://www.sociopathworld.com
BB I have to say I'm a little scared that you even know of that site lol.
A2I found it when I was looking to make sure that my claim about sociopaths recognizing each other was accurate.
Since Backpage is such an utter clusterfuck right now, we might as well at least have some fun goofing around here while we figure out how to cut through the 200 fake ads per hour going up.
The USA Adult Classifieds is open for business, make the move now before BP gets closed, you know it's coming.
http://usaadultclassifieds.info
A2
On the other website, you can see the trend of escorts who have their own websites charging $350-400 or even higher for an hour. On the one hand, they are beautiful young women who will give you a great performance for that hour but the increase in rates in the past two years or so is getting crazy. For the average joe, $350 is what you might make for working two days after taxes. DC has a lot of highly paid professionals so the market is there for high priced escorts. Canada is not too far away and the US dollar is strong now so the going rate in Canada is much more reasonable, at $150 or so for the hour.
I am definitely getting priced out of the market here in DC. Yes, there are cheaper BP girls but it is very hit and miss as you can tell from these postings and a number of the girls are less than desirable from an attractiveness standpoint.There have always been expensive escorts in the DMV but what concerns me more is the number of 200/ hr providers who have raised their hh rates to 150+. I think a lot of them are testing the market to see how much they can charge. I've started pushing back (politely) and I would encourage others to do the same. I don't see anything significantly different in the DMV economy this year compared to last and I'm guessing there's a lot of copycat behavior going on where one provider does something because she sees others doing the same.
This is one of the wealthiest areas of the USA and that is the reason a lot of ladies come this way. I guess like everything else in this area such.
As housing, taxes, gas, food, etc. Pussy is also on the list of things that will cost more than what it does in Oklahoma. I try to do my "shopping" in
Baltimore where it's cheaper but the quality is also lower than NO VA. The one good thing is we have a lot of different choices here, in a lower
Income market BP is the same old same old and most are literally streetwalkers who scraped together enough for a dingy no name motel room.
And even if you can afford better there isn't any.
Not sure why but when writing all looks normal,then when posted looks illiterate as hell lol.Things are more expensive in NYC and in many parts of CA (SFO, SAN, etc.) but look how many providers from those places come here because they can get away with charging higher prices. Maybe one factor is that we have a higher proportion of mongers with more $ than sense? Maybe hobbyists in this area are more willing to shell out top $ for average or even crap service? Don't know exactly but it sure sucks. There's good value to be had but it definitely takes more homework to find it. Not like Miami or other places which are a target rich environment!
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-petite-italian-mami/17788906
Image search found a different number (856-974-1506), website and reviews.
http://milfgia.naughtynsexy.com/
Four reviews on the oThER site, two good and two average, and a price of 200/ hr. Depending on her hh price she might be an interesting option for MILF lovers.
On the other website, you can see the trend of escorts who have their own websites charging $350-400 or even higher for an hour. On the one hand, they are beautiful young women who will give you a great performance for that hour but the increase in rates in the past two years or so is getting crazy. For the average joe, $350 is what you might make for working two days after taxes. DC has a lot of highly paid professionals so the market is there for high priced escorts. Canada is not too far away and the US dollar is strong now so the going rate in Canada is much more reasonable, at $150 or so for the hour.
I am definitely getting priced out of the market here in DC. Yes, there are cheaper BP girls but it is very hit and miss as you can tell from these postings and a number of the girls are less than desirable from an attractiveness standpoint.I believe that the key is that in some provider based industries, the hobbyists regulate the price point more heavily, and convey it to the provider. In the DMV, there are some Latina "agencies" where you can do 50 - 60 for a short stay. You will not be rushed, and the girls are average (you may find a stunner on a blue moon, but most are a solid 6 or 7). These Latinas primarily only speak Spanish and they cater to a Latino client base. There are some other Latina "agencies" in the area (northern VA) that charge over twice that amount (for the same time) for the same quality of woman, but they cater to non-Latinos. Why is that? I can tell you why, because they are catering to a different client base. I am only using anecdotal evidence, but certain types of client's will aggressively regulate the price point to ensure that the price point stays where they want it to stay. We don't do this with BP gals. However, this is frequently done with AMPs, SWs, and providers that cater to a subset of the population.
If you take a drive up to Baltimore, you can find a wide array of SWs. Some will be drug addicts, some will be strippers that didn't make enough money and are walking after their shift, and some will be regular girls with no other options that live in the area but will sell their pussy to the right guy. Three different types of women, with 3 different types of motivation. However, the going rate is the going rate, and the hobbyist that partake of SWs heavily enforce that rate. If a SW is on a certain stroll, and the price is 20/40, then it is what it is and she knows it. Don't get me wrong, a SW will attempt to get more / ask for more, but she will take the standard, especially if she knows that she will not get more AND the guy that comes along after you will not likely give her more either. This is a universal truth for streetwalkers. (Note that I did not mention DC, because it has been my experience that most of the SWs in DC that are downtown, in contrast to other places (Eastern Ave, that are druggies) are are SWs and providers 24/7 that may be on BP also during the day or otherwise managed by a pimp)). But anywhere you go, the price for pussy from a SW on a particular stroll is the price, and there isn't a lot of deviation from it.
Why is it different for BP? Why are there not standard prices as there are with SWs? Is it because the level of competition on BP and the timing of the delivery of the pussy on BP is not as immediate as with SW? Is it because on a stroll there are other women with the same pussy within eyesight, and it is easier to move on to the next provider? Many people say that BP prices increase because the market will support it, but what makes the market NOT support the same type of arbitrary increases with SWs in the same geographic region? Why is that not the case with AMPs? The price for AMPs, regardless of location in the DMV is generally the same house fee for the 1/2 to 1, and the tip fee will only range by about a 20 buck margin for FS (yeah, the "masseuse" may try to do an upsell, but she will take the "standard" rate). Again, we have situations with an agency equivalent (AMP), agency (Latinas catering to Latinos), pimps (SW), druggies (SW), and regular down on her luck gals (SW) that all keep the price point within a certain range, yet on BP (despite the fact that the AMPs and Latina agencies catering to Latinos all advertise also on BP) there is such a price fluctuation for providers. Why is this? Is it a lack of solidarity amongst hobbyists? Conversely, is it because it is one specific girl that is being contacted / sought on BP in lieu of just any chic that may be available (as with AMP, Latina agencies catering to Latinos, and SWs)? Is it because a gal can fly in today, set any price regardless of market variables, and then leave to another location (but only after she artificially inflated the price point)?
Things are more expensive in NYC and in many parts of CA (SFO, SAN, etc.) but look how many providers from those places come here because they can get away with charging higher prices. Maybe one factor is that we have a higher proportion of mongers with more $ than sense? Maybe hobbyists in this area are more willing to shell out top $ for average or even crap service? Don't know exactly but it sure sucks. There's good value to be had but it definitely takes more homework to find it. Not like Miami or other places which are a target rich environment!I figure they are coming here from those expensive areas because this is a place that they can still get the rate they are used to there. If a girl
From NYC wants $400.00 an hr she may well get it here, but if she sets up shop in Louisville or Salt Lake City she won't get it.
WebDog2015
09-02-15, 21:16
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/montgomery-county-investigates-fat-boy-the-pimp-part-2/19088301
Be careful with her since MOCO is looking for her.What a goddamn bummer. Well, it was nice while it lasted. I naively thought she might be indie (and also thought that was probably naive).
She is smart as a whip, and not ghetto in her mannerisms. Very well-spoken and polite. A really great date too. Damn!
I left no trail so I am not concerned about any blowback for me. One thing, the 2nd girl shown, the one above Chanel not the one below Fat Boy, the one they're saying is "Missy". She was there and she was hot as hell. Much cuter than the pic and even cuter than Chantel, but too demure. But was in good spirits and I doubt was any kind of victim.
Chanel was not at the property when I arrived. We txt'd back and forth and I watched her arrive in a rental car (which I know because I checked it out when I left) and Missy was in the room alone when Chanel got there. Despite the human-trafficking angle which sounds very bad, you have to note the LEO caveat "Remember- in Maryland- human trafficking includes anyone that transports, harbors an individual for the purposes of prostitution". That doesn't mean any of the trafficking victims weren't there voluntarily.
On Monday night she told me she was "going back home to California tomorrow morning" so I am sure Fat Boy's bust hastened her departure. I didn't see her post and I am pretty sure she didn't, I just called her on a whim and caught her offguard. She was really glad to see me was very flexible with timing, so no doubt she was on the way out state and not officially work.
I am bummed, but thank you sincerely for the heads up.
This gal posts daily and she seems like she's been reviewed before but I can't find a thing here or on the oThER board.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/thirsty-thursdayready-nowstart-your-weekend-off-right/17081963
This gal posts daily and she seems like she's been reviewed before but I can't find a thing here or on the oThER board.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/thirsty-thursdayready-nowstart-your-weekend-off-right/17081963I believe she's reviewed under the name Willow and doesn't receive high marks. I sent you a PM with a bit more info.
This gal posts daily and she seems like she's been reviewed before but I can't find a thing here or on the oThER board.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/thirsty-thursdayready-nowstart-your-weekend-off-right/17081963http://liverubreviews.com/ad/nova/0/1/26472
http://liverubreviews.com/ad/nova/0/1/26472Between you and JM I will give this slatternly mom a pass.
Between you and JM I will give this slatternly mom a pass.Tried to respond to your PM.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/202-277-6452/1/314835/ter
I've seen Chloe post for months but this is my first time contacting her. On the other site she has great reviews. Somebody mentioned GFE and MSOG, so I texted her to see her donations.
Well she quoted me at $$$ for HR and FS. Sorry but if I'm giving up 3 bills I would expect FS and MSOG.
Is she really worth it? I doubt it since there are plenty of options for way less. Let me know if anybody has seen her.
I saw Nikky before lunch; very nice BBBJ and we moved on to FS. I tried to start with DATY and she waived me off. Missionary, legs over shoulders and K9 but 15 minutes into it she said she was getting dry and the silly cow only has skin moisturizer but no lube. Her pussy was tight from the beginning, then she claimed that it was swollen up. She asks me to stop and breaks out more skin lotion and she tried to tit fuck me to get me off as she began to alternate between dirty talk and accusing me of having seen someone before her or that I was jacking off slow just to prolong the visit.
Tired of her carping, I just quit and got dressed. I had been hoping for a long session and I suspect she was offering dirty talk and FS to get me out quick following my early finish on Sunday. She also continued her embargo on DATY. Despite the relative bargain of $120, I am doubtful about repeating.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/202-277-6452/1/314835/ter
I've seen Chloe post for months but this is my first time contacting her. On the other site she has great reviews. Somebody mentioned GFE and MSOG, so I texted her to see her donations.
Well she quoted me at $$$ for HR and FS. Sorry but if I'm giving up 3 bills I would expect FS and MSOG.
Is she really worth it? I doubt it since there are plenty of options for way less. Let me know if anybody has seen her.Is it Gya's friend Chloe?
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-girlsexy-latinapuerto-rican-chloe/19144549
Or a different one?
Is it Gya's friend Chloe?
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-girlsexy-latinapuerto-rican-chloe/19144549
Or a different one?http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/busty-playmate-natural-36-ddd/18725956
202/277/6452.
..... while we figure out how to cut through the 200 fake ads per hour going up.
The USA Adult Classifieds is open for business, make the move now before BP gets closed, you know it's coming.
http://usaadultclassifieds.info
A2How do I sift though the Asian fakes? Two ways. It helps if you don't patronize Asians. I rarely do.
First, if I have time and a screen larger than my phone, I switch to the gallery view. The fake Asian pics jump right out.
If I am viewing text, most of these fake Asian ads suffer from way too many emojis. Granted they may visually squeeze out the occasional text headline but at least I'm not wasting clicking on links that will just show me a disinterested girl in a swimsuit.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/busty-playmate-natural-36-ddd/18725956
202/277/6452.I and others have reported on her before.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9224-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=2268128&viewfull=1#post2268128.
I and others have reported on her before.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9224-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=2268128&viewfull=1#post2268128.What's the post number? The link doesn't bring me to any posts about her.
What's the post number? The link doesn't bring me to any posts about her.There are three post about her on that page, just scroll down.
Great Expecta
09-05-15, 09:46
Has anyone had any luck with these ladies? I was born at night, but not last night and these look TGTBT. No phone history, etc. Just wondering if anyone else has sampled. With looks like that advertising all fetishes at that price seems asking for LEO. Be safe out there.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/german-submissive-_-sweet-_-sexy-_-tight-lil-blonde_-independent/16949739
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/busty-blonde-bombshell-real-life-barbie/18535380
Bunker Buster
09-05-15, 11:27
Has anyone had any luck with these ladies? I was born at night, but not last night and these look TGTBT. No phone history, etc. Just wondering if anyone else has sampled. With looks like that advertising all fetishes at that price seems asking for LEO. Be safe out there.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/german-submissive-_-sweet-_-sexy-_-tight-lil-blonde_-independent/16949739
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/busty-blonde-bombshell-real-life-barbie/18535380Why speculate when you can have 100% certainty with a right-click?
http://bit.ly/1Lb7m8a
http://bit.ly/1VFaa57
http://ink361.com/app/users/ig-689229546/oficialxogisele/photos
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/1325808?hl=en
I saw Nikky before lunch; very nice BBBJ and we moved on to FS. I tried to start with DATY and she waived me off. Missionary, legs over shoulders and K9 but 15 minutes into it she said she was getting dry and the silly cow only has skin moisturizer but no lube. Her pussy was tight from the beginning, then she claimed that it was swollen up. She asks me to stop and breaks out more skin lotion and she tried to tit fuck me to get me off as she began to alternate between dirty talk and accusing me of having seen someone before her or that I was jacking off slow just to prolong the visit.
Tired of her carping, I just quit and got dressed. I had been hoping for a long session and I suspect she was offering dirty talk and FS to get me out quick following my early finish on Sunday. She also continued her embargo on DATY. Despite the relative bargain of $120, I am doubtful about repeating.I saw Nikky again not too long ago. This visit didn't go as well as previous sessions. Apparently she's got a lot of drama going on in her life, so that could explain why things didn't work out. Still, I expect better for the hard-earned money I'm spending. On top of that, I got some strange looks from a neighbor as I returned to my car.
Perhaps I'll try Nikky again at some point in the future, but I'm not inclined to repeat anytime soon.
Roamin Roman
09-05-15, 20:36
Since she's posting again (in the "Southern Maryland" section of BP's Washington Escorts boards), I figured I'd post a review of my November 2013 visits with her.
Kourtney usually spells her name with a K (vice a C) in her BP ads so, if you do a search for her, keep that in mind. As her ads note, she is very petite, probably weighing 100-100 lbs with a 34-A bustline. She's a brunette (drapes and carpet match) and sports a couple small tattoos. Her previous ads used to claim ages of 38 and, alternately, 42. Her current ads list an age of 43, which may be closer to her likely late-40's age. She also smokes, or used to, but not while she's with you. And, she generally stays at low-to-mid level motels in the Waldorf / Camp Springs region.
Be all this as it may, Kourtney is a nice gal, friendly and a bit talkative, and she didn't short me on time or leave her cell phone on during the session, either. She'll converse to put you at ease. Her head game is better than average, and she clearly enjoys giving that service. Once all is ready, she'll transition both of you effortlessly to the main event. Due to an ankle injury a few years ago, she's not comfortable with certain configurations. She apparently gets very excited, as you'll notice, and she puts a good deal of energy into the whole thing. She's not a cold fish, and will continue to converse with you.
One word of warning: She can get excited leading up to the main event and, as a result, this might cause her to do something that not every monger will desire. So, be aware. ].
Overall, I found her to be a good value. She exhibited no "attitude" and seemed genuinely concerned about giving a good session. And, she'll satisfy any MILF cravings you might be harboring. Since she's now advertising again, I may opt to make another visit to her soon. The only drawback in the travel distance (Waldorf). It's true that she is (by her own admission) not the most photogenic person, and one might (and probably could) find other, younger BP providers who are much hotter. But the flip-side with Kourtney is the assurance of solid service with a not-unattractive woman. Her ads include photos that do not do her justice, and she is more attractive in person. The attached photos show her in a more accurate light, so to speak. All in all, I would recommend a visit.
Senior and Regular members alike, who have a track record of contributing useful information to this forum, can send me a PM for additional details. If you need to ask, or have doubts, as to what constitutes "useful information," don't waste your time sending a PM. There have been a few lately who've fit that category all too well, and those PMs just go into the digital circular file.
Stay safe, be careful, and (as a certain "aviator" says), be nice to the ladies. And I'll add: If they prove themselves to be less than ladies, still maintain your dignity and remain a gentleman.
Roman.
Bunker Buster
09-06-15, 00:41
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/perfect-10-imbetter-thanher-her-andherdont-believe-me-come-and-see/18931686
Perfect 10!! I'mBetter Than➹Her➹ ➷Her➷ And➹Her➹Don't Believe Me?? Come And See!! - 737.6OO.2O3O - 20
It took image searching nearly all of her pix with few results until I finally hit the one that opened the door. The original pic has a 2003 watermark.
http://bit.ly/1FqrilH
Pbarber307
09-06-15, 01:12
This gal posts daily and she seems like she's been reviewed before but I can't find a thing here or on the oThER board.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/thirsty-thursdayready-nowstart-your-weekend-off-right/17081963She used to be in Springfield under the name, Rebecca.
You can find reviews on the oThER board.
Elber Gonzalez
09-06-15, 02:35
I was in mood of sum BP fun tonite and decided to call this chick that's been advertising lately, I was really curios about her, she is the one of the pictures, she is really cool and drama free I had a SUPERB session her, she is from out of town, she is staying till morning only, but I'll definitely repit next time I see her in town and I think she will become one favorites.
This is her ad in case if you want to have a good time too.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-white-girl-back-in-town-for-the-night/19173019
Roamin Roman
09-06-15, 02:53
These didn't attach to my earlier report, so hopefully the attachment app will work now.
Roman.
Anonymousva
09-06-15, 17:30
Apologies for just now getting around to posting. I dreamt of Visiting Nikky about a month ago. Location- normal single family home near VHC. Strange older next door neighbor sitting out under a tree. Went on and was met at the door by Nikky who conducted a quick pleasant LE check. She is far from perfect shape, so am I in all fairness. She's a nice looking younger GILF. Not sure how many people lived there though seemed to only be the two of us home. House was a mess which is fine. She took me to her room with the crib. Made small talk and said I was looking forward to a fun massage. As soon as I dropped trou, she said something with an excited tone along the lines of "Oh, isn't that a nice one" and before I could respond, she grabbed it playfully, got her knees and began sucking like a champion. She has beautiful eyes and looks quite naughty looking up at her Beau. At my request she quickly undressed too. With a smile, she asked in a sensual tone of I wanted to feel how tight she is. ? I promptly pulled out a condom I brought just in case. She laid back on the bed and took it like a champ. As she felt amazing (tight), looked great for the moment (pretty clean shaven cat, great tits & eyes), I filled the condom before long.
Though she remained sweet, she got dressed and encouraged my departure. When I reference the hours worth of massage we had discussed vs. Our only being 30 min into my visit, she sweetly stated that she knows I got what I came for and continues to pleasantly encourage my departure. Not wanting to have a good visit turn sour at the end, I happily left though wishing I'd pulled out occasionally and enjoyed it longer. I will likely repeat though Hope to get a better deal. Fair price and good service for our market. Be nice to her guys, seems like she's just trying to have some fun while she gets by.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/nikky-sexy-hot-italian/10166143
Bunker Buster
09-07-15, 05:50
Made small talk and said I was looking forward to a fun massage. As soon as I dropped trou, she said something with an excited tone along the lines of "Oh, isn't that a nice one" and before I could respond, she grabbed it playfully, got her knees and began sucking like a champion. She has beautiful eyes and looks quite naughty looking up at her Beau. At my request she quickly undressed too. With a smile, she asked in a sensual tone of I wanted to feel how tight she is. ? I promptly pulled out a condom I brought just in case. She laid back on the bed and took it like a champ. As she felt amazing (tight), looked great for the moment (pretty clean shaven cat, great tits & eyes), I filled the condom before long.
Though she remained sweet, she got dressed and encouraged my departure. When I reference the hours worth of massage we had discussed vs. Our only being 30 min into my visit, she sweetly stated that she knows I got what I came for and continues to pleasantly encourage my departure. Not wanting to have a good visit turn sour at the end, I happily left though wishing I'd pulled out occasionally and enjoyed it longer. I will likely repeat though Hope to get a better deal. Fair price and good service for our market. Be nice to her guys, seems like she's just trying to have some fun while she gets by.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/nikky-sexy-hot-italian/10166143She lured you in with the promise of a massage and a full hour, manipulated you to rush straight the finish, then got dressed, and made clear that "you got what you came for," and that you it was time for you to leave. Immediately.
How is that "fair price and good service? She's not "just trying to have fun while she gets by. " She's trying to get as much as she can for as little effort as possible.
Bunker Buster
09-07-15, 05:57
I was in mood of sum BP fun tonite and decided to call this chick that's been advertising lately, I was really curios about her, she is the one of the pictures, she is really cool and drama free I had a SUPERB session her, she is from out of town, she is staying till morning only, but I'll definitely repit next time I see her in town and I think she will become one favorites.
This is her ad in case if you want to have a good time too.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-white-girl-back-in-town-for-the-night/19173019But use names in reports. 'This chick,' 'out of town hottie,' 'she,' and 'her' don't help when searching the board a month or a year down the line to see if Melanie AKA Mel has any reviews.
Backpage ads come down and expire fairly quickly. Here's a site that makes it easier to permalink ads here.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/washingtondc/571-245-6110/1/476166
I've seen numerous ads by a provider advertising as a "gorgeous Latina" near the Springfield mall. I did some homework and found some good reviews, so I recently contacted her and set up a session. I arrived at her motel and got the room number. When she answered the door, I found out she wasn't lying about being gorgeous. She gave her name as Sophia, although she's also reviewed elsewhere as Sofi and Skittle Girl.
For the sake of discretion, I'll simply say her personality matched her looks and I left drained and satisfied. She's not GFE, but she knows what she's doing and made no effort to rush me to completion. Damage was $ and I left slightly more than 30 minutes after arriving.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gorgeous-latinain-townhot-petite-latina100-real100-special/10623851
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/washingtondc/571-244-6965/1/532297
Apologies for just now getting around to posting. I dreamt of Visiting Nikky about a month ago. Location- normal single family home near VHC. Strange older next door neighbor sitting out under a tree. Went on and was met at the door by Nikky who conducted a quick pleasant LE check. She is far from perfect shape, so am I in all fairness. She's a nice looking younger GILF. Not sure how many people lived there though seemed to only be the two of us home. House was a mess which is fine. She took me to her room with the crib. Made small talk and said I was looking forward to a fun massage. As soon as I dropped trou, she said something with an excited tone along the lines of "Oh, isn't that a nice one" and before I could respond, she grabbed it playfully, got her knees and began sucking like a champion. She has beautiful eyes and looks quite naughty looking up at her Beau. At my request she quickly undressed too. With a smile, she asked in a sensual tone of I wanted to feel how tight she is. ? I promptly pulled out a condom I brought just in case. She laid back on the bed and took it like a champ. As she felt amazing (tight), looked great for the moment (pretty clean shaven cat, great tits & eyes), I filled the condom before long.
Though she remained sweet, she got dressed and encouraged my departure. When I reference the hours worth of massage we had discussed vs. Our only being 30 min into my visit, she sweetly stated that she knows I got what I came for and continues to pleasantly encourage my departure. Not wanting to have a good visit turn sour at the end, I happily left though wishing I'd pulled out occasionally and enjoyed it longer. I will likely repeat though Hope to get a better deal. Fair price and good service for our market. Be nice to her guys, seems like she's just trying to have some fun while she gets by.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/nikky-sexy-hot-italian/10166143Sounds like a rusher. I will avoid.
Saw this one again not to long ago. She posts in the bodyrub section and sporadically. I can't find the older reviews on the other site (different phone number than the one she's using currently) but I did read through them before seeing her the first time as I was looking for a non-rusher / full hour length and accurate pics.
If you read through her older reviews they state that the apt she works out of in Alexandria is VERY messy / disgusting (someone went as far as saying it was a biohazard and should be condemned) AND she's quite a talker. They're all true but it's not like I'm going to be living with her so an hour in the apt with her isn't a big deal for me. As far as her being quite the talker I actually like it as it helps me relax but everyone is different so maybe a few of the reviewers prefer silence. When you get to her location she does talk you through on parking in the right section while watching you from the window. Also she's very cautious about uncle LEO and won't really accept donations or talk about services until you're undressed.
Anyway she's a short, mixed, late-20's girl and while her pics are accurate they're a bit old as she's gained a bit of weight. I think I've said before that as long as a girl isn't morbidly obese with "cottage cheese" looking skin everywhere I'm fine. As for the session itself she goes the full hour talking and rubbing the back and legs with baby oil. She applies a bit of pressure and I like her technique which is why I saw her again. I think I messed up my right hamstring squatting at the gym.
On the flip okay BJ / HJ finish. Maybe if you're a regular the menu opens up? But I was mainly there for a decent massage.
321-xxx-9826.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/mon-sun-leave-relaxed-from-my-sweet-touch-deep-tissue-or-nuru-outin-table/13601359
Roamin Roman
09-12-15, 03:21
Met up with a nice Nubian today, one who advertises infrequently on BP. Contact was mainly via text and phone, and basically the 2-call system once I reached her address. When she opened the door, I was staring at a pretty, slender, medium-to-tall black girl who was wearing only a satin robe and looked even better than her BP ad pix. Probably about 30 and all of 115# and 5'8", she had short hair, a medium chocolate complexion, and a perfect ass. I knew this was likely to be very fun, and it was. I gave her the donation which, for was an excellent price point for the appearance and service, and then she led me into her bedroom. We got comfortable and sat on the bed to make some small conversation, and then we began to explore each other. What's to say, except that we spent the next hour or so having fun. She did not short on time; in fact, we probably went about 75 minutes. She is expressive and appeared to enjoy herself as much as I did. She began with CBJ until I rolled her over for some extended DATY. At one point, I grabbed a vibe she had lying on her bedside table and applied it against her clit until her eyes rolled back. After a little more of this, she pulled me up into mish and we stayed like that until I busted much later. This one made me fill the cover. (BTW, notice in one of the pix how swollen the hood of her clit is.).
All in all, an enjoyable time. And, as I said, for the price it was very good value. She is careful (CBJ and CFS, of course) but does kiss generously, only not with tongues. Okay, I could live with that. And, she can definitely take it deep, both ways.
Will I repeat? Yes. Even if she might not wind up being my go-to provider, she'll be in the regular rotation. She is clean and well-kept, her place is tidy, and the neighborhood is not menacing. She answers her phone and replies to texts quickly, so contacting her is not difficult. And, as I said, she's attractive. (One potential drawback for some mongers: She does smoke, but not during the session.). Seniors and Regular members who contribute useful information to this forum can contact me for more information.
Roman.
JTreehorn14
09-12-15, 11:47
Met up with a nice Nubian today, one who advertises infrequently on BP.I like her hairy Bush!
Bunker Buster
09-13-15, 01:23
If you read through her older reviews they state that the apt she works out of in Alexandria is VERY messy / disgusting (someone went as far as saying it was a biohazard and should be condemned) AND she's quite a talker.
321-xxx-9826.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/mon-sun-leave-relaxed-from-my-sweet-touch-deep-tissue-or-nuru-outin-table/13601359The place smelled from her dog using the place as a free-form bathroom, but the worst part was when I went to the bathroom myself. It was a filthy disaster, and the toilet was clogged. She said I could use it, but not to flush. I looked in the bowl, and saw the shortest, fattest choad of a turd I'd ever seen. Her ass must have stretched three inches wide for that thing to pass through.
Anyway, I got so distracted looking around at the grime and mess everywhere while pissing that I forgot what she said, and reflexively flushed. The bowl filled up, and that fat turd, along with the rest of the foul-smelling mess in the bowl, floated over the bowl and onto the floor. I jumped clear while apologizing, and as soon as we got back to her room, I told her I was sorry, but the place was so dirty there'd be no way I could relax. I think I flipped her a Jackson, and got the hell out of there.
I too have had the misfortune of dropping by Kat's incall. OMG!! The smell was intolerable! I told her she needs to clean the place up if she is going to have "friends" over. I gave her a very generous .4 to hire a housekeeper. And I quickly bailed within a couple of minutes.
No offense to the original poster, but I say proceed at your own risk, fellas. And if you do go you might want to don a U.S. Army-issue gas mask at the front door. Honestly, she may have to use ServePro to make that place habitable again. Ugh.
Derringer.
The place smelled from her dog using the place as a free-rm bathroom, but the worst part was when I went to the bathroom myself. It was a filthy disaster, and the toilet was clogged. She said I could use it, but not to flush. I looked in the bowl, and saw the shortest, fattest choad of a turd I'd ever seen. Her ass must have stretched three inches wide for that thing to pass through.
Anyway, I got so distracted looking around at the grime and mess everywhere while pissing that I forgot what she said, and reflexively flushed. The bowl filled up, and that fat turd, along with the rest of the foul-smelling mess in the bowl, floated over the bowl and onto the floor. I jumped clear while apologizing, and as soon as we got back to her room, I told her I was sorry, but the place was so dirty there'd be no way I could relax. I think I flipped her a Jackson, and got the hell out of there.
Fun Travel Guy
09-14-15, 16:58
Anyone have any info on this one? I couldn't find much by searching the phone number. Looks TGTBT.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-blonde-tender-lovable-huggable-soft-and-sweetfun-and-friendlyvery-worth-the-meet/13336507
Stay safe.
Bunker Buster
09-14-15, 19:14
Anyone have any info on this one? I couldn't find much by searching the phone number. Looks TGTBT.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-blonde-tender-lovable-huggable-soft-and-sweetfun-and-friendlyvery-worth-the-meet/13336507http://bit.ly/1Y5pTwh
How reverse image search works:
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/1325808?hl=en
Anyone have any info on this one? I couldn't find much by searching the phone number. Looks TGTBT.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-blonde-tender-lovable-huggable-soft-and-sweetfun-and-friendlyvery-worth-the-meet/13336507
Stay safe.Phone numbers are pretty easy to get and to change. But if her TGTBT pics were ripped off from another website your image search should pick up on that.
Also, if she used the same pics (even if fake) in another ad, you may find a different phone which could lead to a review or a forum post.
IMHO, phone search and image search are two sides of the same coin and using both together gives you the best shot at finding good info.
ShortMan22
09-14-15, 22:46
Does anyone have any info on this one?
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/bodyrub-sessions-upscale-discreete-only-100-540-326-2060/17952910
SuperJimmy
09-15-15, 00:14
I too have had the misfortune of dropping by Kat's incall. OMG!! The smell was intolerable! I told her she needs to clean the place up if she is going to have "friends" over. I gave her a very generous .4 to hire a housekeeper. And I quickly bailed within a couple of minutes.
No offense to the original poster, but I say proceed at your own risk, fellas. And if you do go you might want to don a U.S. Army-issue gas mask at the front door. Honestly, she may have to use ServePro to make that place habitable again. Ugh.
Derringer.There was an episode of friends in which Ross was dating this super-fine woman but the problem was her apartment was very messy and very dirty. She also had a pet rat. It was hilarious!
It was season #4 episode #6 (I have the best 12 minutes of the episode on my DVR), the Episode was named "The one with the dirty girl" - starring the lovely Rebecca Romijn.
RocketMan138
09-15-15, 03:50
Anyone have any intel on this one? She doesn't show up on any searches on TER or Google.
The pics are almost TGTBT, so being a cautious skeptic, I'm assuming there is a "catch".
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/while-my-husband-is-away-this-cat-must-play-wild-nawty-housewife/19048860
Roamin Roman
09-15-15, 04:18
I like her hairy Bush!Actually, while it looks hairy in the photos, it was fairly well trimmed. The highlights of this gal, though, were her tits, as you can see.
Mustang946
09-15-15, 08:42
Does anyone have any info on this one?
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/bodyrub-sessions-upscale-discreete-only-100-540-326-2060/17952910A quick search on theOthersite reveals one review with a non recommendation. Maybe he didn't click with her. Check her out and let us know.
Fun Travel Guy
09-15-15, 09:17
http://bit.ly/1Y5pTwh
How reverse image search works:
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/1325808?hl=enThanks for the info. Looks like the pics are fake. And thanks for the info about reverse image search. I've heard of it before but didn't exactly know how to do it from my phone. Looks like I need to install Chrome. Thanks again. Stay safe.
Bunker Buster
09-15-15, 10:54
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Fun Travel Guy
09-15-15, 12:22
Anyone have any intel on this one? She doesn't show up on any searches on TER or Google.
The pics are almost TGTBT, so being a cautious skeptic, I'm assuming there is a "catch".
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/while-my-husband-is-away-this-cat-must-play-wild-nawty-housewife/19048860Based on my newly acquired reverse image search skills this add would appear to be fake. Not sure how to post the link. Stay safe.
Fun Travel Guy
09-16-15, 00:12
Couldn't find any reviews on Anya so after some investigation I decided to TOFTT.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sick-of-fake-pics-and-bad-attitudes-click-here/18352180
I called her and although she is doing Incalls in Springfield, I asked if she could do an Outcall to my hotel in Alexandria and she was happy to oblige. She was about 15 minutes late but kept me informed via text on her way over.
When we got to my room it was late so we got right down to business. She is the girl in the pics and has a great body with HUGE tits. Though she is not GFE and everything is covered. Started with a CBJ followed by CFS in CG and then reverse CG. While in reverse CG I ran my finger down her ass crack and she immediately stopped me saying she doesn't like anything that resembles Greek. It's not like I was trying to finger her ass or anything so this was a little strange.
The damage was 3 for an hour but I finished in the cover in about 30 minutes. She cleaned me up, got dressed and left. MSOG was not on the menu. Overall, she's a really nice girl. I got what I wanted but it was a bit expensive without BBBJ and MSOG. If I could negotiate that next time I would repeat but if not I would want a lower rate. Perhaps it is cheaper at her Incall. She did indicate that she's been doing this for a while all over the country. YMMV.
Stay safe.
Member #6049
09-16-15, 07:59
Couldn't find any reviews on Anya so after some investigation I decided to TOFTT.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sick-of-fake-pics-and-bad-attitudes-click-here/18352180
I called her and although she is doing Incalls in Springfield, I asked if she could do an Outcall to my hotel in Alexandria and she was happy to oblige. She was about 15 minutes late but kept me informed via text on her way over.
When we got to my room it was late so we got right down to business. She is the girl in the pics and has a great body with HUGE tits. Though she is not GFE and everything is covered. Started with a CBJ followed by CFS in CG and then reverse CG. While in reverse CG I ran my finger down her ass crack and she immediately stopped me saying she doesn't like anything that resembles Greek. It's not like I was trying to finger her ass or anything so this was a little strange.
The damage was 3 for an hour but I finished in the cover in about 30 minutes. She cleaned me up, got dressed and left. MSOG was not on the menu. Overall, she's a really nice girl. I got what I wanted but it was a bit expensive without BBBJ and MSOG. If I could negotiate that next time I would repeat but if not I would want a lower rate. Perhaps it is cheaper at her Incall. She did indicate that she's been doing this for a while all over the country. YMMV.
Stay safe.Thanks for the review. I was curious about her myself. Damage is a little too much though.
Bunker Buster
09-16-15, 09:48
Couldn't find any reviews on Anya so after some investigation I decided to TOFTT.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sick-of-fake-pics-and-bad-attitudes-click-here/18352180
The damage was 3 for an hour but I finished in the cover in about 30 minutes. She cleaned me up, got dressed and left. MSOG was not on the menu. Overall, she's a really nice girl. I got what I wanted but it was a bit expensive without BBBJ and MSOG. If I could negotiate that next time I would repeat but if not I would want a lower rate. Perhaps it is cheaper at her Incall. Plus extra for the floor mats, undercoating, and extended warranty? $300 for an hour that lasted 30 minutes?
I guarantee you she would have done a 30 minute outcall for no more than $150.
You couldn't find any reviews? For God's sake, what investigation did you do? She has reviews under her name and phone number. It's as simple as putting the phone number and picture into Google.
http://bit.ly/1NCO4Pj
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/310-210-5601/1/249207
How to do research, and how not to overpay have been discussed here a hundred times. Just because she quotes a high price doesn't mean that's the final price. In fact, your accepting that high price without clarifying whether there was GFE or MSOG, and getting a better rate when she said no, or asking about a shorter session, told her you were a lamb to be fleeced, and she took full advantage.
If you don't do your homework, you're going to pay for it in higher prices and disappointing sessions.
Couldn't find any reviews on Anya so after some investigation I decided to TOFTT.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sick-of-fake-pics-and-bad-attitudes-click-here/18352180
I called her and although she is doing Incalls in Springfield, I asked if she could do an Outcall to my hotel in Alexandria and she was happy to oblige. She was about 15 minutes late but kept me informed via text on her way over.
When we got to my room it was late so we got right down to business. She is the girl in the pics and has a great body with HUGE tits. Though she is not GFE and everything is covered. Started with a CBJ followed by CFS in CG and then reverse CG. While in reverse CG I ran my finger down her ass crack and she immediately stopped me saying she doesn't like anything that resembles Greek. It's not like I was trying to finger her ass or anything so this was a little strange.
The damage was 3 for an hour but I finished in the cover in about 30 minutes. She cleaned me up, got dressed and left. MSOG was not on the menu. Overall, she's a really nice girl. I got what I wanted but it was a bit expensive without BBBJ and MSOG. If I could negotiate that next time I would repeat but if not I would want a lower rate. Perhaps it is cheaper at her Incall. She did indicate that she's been doing this for a while all over the country. YMMV.
Stay safe.Sorry to say but you could've gotten GFE, MSOG and outcall for $$$ from highly reviewed girls. When you are paying prices like that you should receive services greater than or equal to a porn star.
Roamin Roman
09-16-15, 18:32
Sorry to say but you could've gotten GFE, MSOG and outcall for $$$ from highly reviewed girls. When you are paying prices like that you should receive services greater than or equal to a porn star.Sometimes, one has to weigh whether getting service from a "super hot" provider is worth paying 3 X what service from a reliable standard provider costs. IMO, once in a while it is; most of the times, it ain't. After all, as the old expression goes: It's all pink inside. " When the lights have been dimmed and "Junior" is all tucked in, things will be marching to a different drumbeat. Among the plethora of BackPage ads of hotties (many of which are stolen pix), there are also a number of good, solid providers who will cost you a LOT less but will give you a wonderful time.
Consider the BBW that I've reported on recently. She is very reasonable. While she's not a young hottie spinner, she'll still make your toes curl when you achieve Shangri-La (to use an old Greaseman metaphor). So, just another option to consider as you weigh your choices.
Roman.
Roamin Roman
09-17-15, 01:41
Sometimes, one has to weigh whether getting service from a "super hot" provider is worth paying 3 X what service from a reliable standard provider costs. IMO, once in a while it is; most of the times, it ain't. After all, as the old expression goes: It's all pink inside. " When the lights have been dimmed and "Junior" is all tucked in, things will be marching to a different drumbeat. Among the plethora of BackPage ads of hotties (many of which are stolen pix), there are also a number of good, solid providers who will cost you a LOT less but will give you a wonderful time.
Consider the BBW that I've reported on recently. She is very reasonable. While she's not a young hottie spinner, she'll still make your toes curl when you achieve Shangri-La (to use an old Greaseman metaphor). So, just another option to consider as you weigh your choices.
Roman.Incidentally, she's posted another ad on BP, but I doubt it will remain there long. She deleted all her previous ads due to LEO concerns and a desire to limit her clients to those she currently has. But, this new ad went up for a very specific reason. She also informed me, during my last visit (Monday), that she's considering not coming to the NoVa area as often due to the cost of hotels. She has some travel considerations, as well. So, if anyone wants to take her for a spin, strike while the iron is hot. Otherwise, you're likely to miss your chance.
Hey Now-.
I have been ReadingTFF and ran across the posting of this audio gem (below) from Lady Nurse (LN).
I have seen LN over the years, both before and after her hiatus from the industry. She is a biracial (mixed) lady, 30 ish, with 36 dees and a nice, ample butt. She provides a unique type of service, a car date in her vehicle consisting of only untraslated French. I will not provide any details about her "spot," other than to say it is secure enough for me to be able to relax and enjoy show.
LN is friendly and engaging, making you comfortable right away. She has always delivers as promised. I rate hers skills very high, but reading the oThER site it is clear that some guys worship the ground she walks on. She is pleasant to be with, very talented, and willing to work for it if necessary. However, she is a one and done gal. So for those of you like me and have a tendancy to blow pretty quick, it could be a short "date. "
Back in June someone said they found the audio "endearing." But all the "inside baseball" had the opposite effect on me. Kind of kills the fantasy of her enjoyment of her "job. " (Pun intended.)
Someone else commented that she is lacking in the "looks" department. But I would still rate her a 7/10. She also allows some UTC roaming hands up top while she works it, so I would say the total experience, for what it is, is about 8/10.
Looks like she now charges $. 5 to meet. But I think she still drops the admission price to one Benjy for repeat customers after the initial visit. At least she still does for me.
You only live once, so I recommend LN for at least one spin around the block just to see for yourself. Here's a link to her info should you be interested:
https://www.preferred411.com/p20146
For initially contacting her, she is now email only. I have the address should you be interested.
Derringer Out.
What's the usual donation?
This has probably been posted before, but I think it is funny, somewhat endearing. For me as much as I would love to see her, I can't justify the price tag.
https://youtu.be/GUipLeBw51c
SseanTaylor36
09-17-15, 13:47
Has anyone been to wakebodywork? I know she said she didn't want to be reviewed so I'll respect that, just wanted to get a little bit more info. You can PM me of you know. She has been in NY / Massachusetts and North Carolina from what I can tell. Only in town for a little bit of time and wanted to know what I could expect. Thanks in advance!
I have also seen her before. The car date in a public parking lot is not something I am used to and it always made me a bit nervous but everything always works out in the end. You just sit back and relax in her car and she will take care of you and swallow the evidence. I saw that she raised her price to $. 5 and haven't seen her since. But if she is offering a discount to repeat clients, I may see her again. At $. 5, I think it is a bit too much given that it could just be 5 or 10 minutes if you are quick and it is just a BJ in a car. She is a friendly curvy girl and she does a good job at sucking cock.
I've seen this BBW Latina post for several months now but recently she has made her donations. 4 ss, . 6 hh and. 8 hr.
Has anybody sampled her? It's so cheap it's scary.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/571-358-4617/1/172130
Hi gentlemen this is Ana. I am avaliable now! I am located in STERLING. Call me at 571-358-4617. Please CALL, NO TEXT. My lips will seduce you. NO BLOCK CALLS. SERIOUS CALLERS ONLY. I want to pleasure you. AM YOUR GIRL NEXT DOOR. IN CALLS 40 quv, 60 HH, 80 H LIMITED TIME ONLY.
Estoy en STERLING. Hablo Espaņol. Llaman al 5713584617. Por favor llamar. Especiales tiempo Ilimitado.
SuperJimmy
09-18-15, 09:28
Any reviews? If not, perhaps you could take one for the team.
BBW's know they must cut their prices to gain business because most men don't want to deal with them but if BBW is your cup of tea you could find a goldmine.
Question? Do one need a long dong to effectively deal with a BBW or not??
What's the best position with them??
I've seen this BBW Latina post for several months now but recently she has made her donations. 4 ss, . 6 hh and. 8 hr.
Has anybody sampled her? It's so cheap it's scary.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/571-358-4617/1/172130
Hi gentlemen this is Ana. I am avaliable now! I am located in STERLING. Call me at 571-358-4617. Please CALL, NO TEXT. My lips will seduce you. NO BLOCK CALLS. SERIOUS CALLERS ONLY. I want to pleasure you. AM YOUR GIRL NEXT DOOR. IN CALLS 40 quv, 60 HH, 80 H LIMITED TIME ONLY.
Estoy en STERLING. Hablo Espaol. Llaman al 5713584617. Por favor llamar. Especiales tiempo Ilimitado.
Any reviews? If not, perhaps you could take one for the team.
BBW's know they must cut their prices to gain business because most men don't want to deal with them but if BBW is your cup of tea you could find a goldmine.
Question? Do one need a long dong to effectively deal with a BBW or not??
What's the best position with them??With somebody that large, one would assume that FS is not available and / or she can give a good BJ because she eats so much?
WhiteLake830
09-18-15, 11:13
Any reviews? If not, perhaps you could take one for the team.
BBW's know they must cut their prices to gain business because most men don't want to deal with them but if BBW is your cup of tea you could find a goldmine.
Question? Do one need a long dong to effectively deal with a BBW or not??
What's the best position with them??I met a girl once (I repeat ONCE) who was more than large. She wanted to do CG, so I tried. Geez, a mistake. Converted to CBJ then doggy. Glad it was a good bed or it would have been a disaster.
Bunker Buster
09-18-15, 11:35
if BBW is your cup of tea you could find a goldmine.
Question? Do one need a long dong to effectively deal with a BBW or not??
What's the best position with them??Over the years, very few BBWs have said no to finishing inside them. I think they like the attention.
If she wants $40 for FS, she'll do the most warped things you suggest for $80. Want to drink three cups of coffee and give someone a human enema? Your best bet is a fat girl.
There shouldn't be any problems with BBWs under 300 lbs. Unless their stomachs are really huge, mish works just fine. K9 is always a good bet. I've done mish Greek with fat ones, and at most, a pillow under their ass props them up enough to do the job. Or bend them over the bed and stand behind them.
With somebody that large, one would assume that FS is not available and / or she can give a good BJ because she eats so much?I prefer slender girls but BBW girls do have some advantages. They are built to take a pounding and you can really slam into them without any problems unlike petite slim ladies. Because they know that guys generally like slimmer girls, they also tend to specialize in blowjobs. More often than not, they are very skilled in cocksucking. I have chosen BBW over slim more attractive girls a number of times due to their higher level of performance in bjs.
Any reviews? If not, perhaps you could take one for the team.
BBW's know they must cut their prices to gain business because most men don't want to deal with them but if BBW is your cup of tea you could find a goldmine.
Question? Do one need a long dong to effectively deal with a BBW or not?? Ans: Not necessarily.
What's the best position with them??Best Position for BBW:
I have had the best success with back entry and a sort of side-saddle mount. This allows full penetration without too much flesh getting in the way. I know it sounds silly but it works for me.
I have had more than my share of BBWs over the years. (Before some of you haters flame me for being a "chubby chaser," carefully read my entire post.) I am talking about both inside and outside the P4 P arena. So I have some experience with this.
I have found that the "scissors" position to be the best to really get all up in there. You can really slam your pelvis right into hers and achieve some deep penetration this way if that is your thing. And I find it nice to have my balls slapping her ass or thigh, depending on the angle I am hitting it from.
It is generally true that bigger gals really enjoy the attention we pay to them that they do not ordinarily get out in the real world. And yes, some specialize in cock sucking and get really damn good at it to have a reliable customer base. And some may engage in more risky activities or charge a lower rate for their services due to having low self-esteem or to get us horn dogs interested. All of those points have been raised.
However, there are two reasons I do not discriminate against larger women. First, I like women of all shapes, colors, and sizes. Of course I am more attracted to some over others. I happen to be attracted to curvy women.
But most importantly, I LOVE tight pussy! A lot of the bigger girls I have met seem to really understand the pleasure a man gets from good, strong squeezing down there. In fact, the lady with the tightest snapper I ever felt was a large woman. But she kept those kegals in shape! And you know what, she always kept me coming back for more. I admit it, I am a sucker for tight pussy. LOL!
Bottom-line: Next time you find yourself in bed with a BBW, try the scissors position.
Derringer Out.
Any reviews? If not, perhaps you could take one for the team.
BBW's know they must cut their prices to gain business because most men don't want to deal with them but if BBW is your cup of tea you could find a goldmine.
Question? Do one need a long dong to effectively deal with a BBW or not??
What's the best position with them??
Roamin Roman
09-19-15, 05:28
First, I like women of all shapes, colors, and sizes. Of course I am more attracted to some over others. I happen to be attracted to curvy women.So, you're a "broad"-minded guy, eh? .
No insults or flames from this sector, amigo. Better a lively BBW than a dead-fish "hottie". And, to tell the truth, there is something with many (most?) BBWs that make them more enthusiastic than your average provider. Perhaps it is, as you suggest, an certain appreciation. And, yes, the scissors position is a good one, as is the doggie (since you can hold onto their tits). But, have you ever tried the RCG position with a BBW? If not, keep that in mind next time.
- Roman.
RIP-OFF ALERT! DC / NOVA: BEWARE OF HOT-BLONDE / CANDACE / KRYSTLE (Manassas, VA outcall escort).
Ad Title: "Hot Blonde Looking to Have Some Unforgettable Fun With You".
Goes by the name of Candace but I think her real name is Krystle Simms.
She changes her phone number periodically. Previous numbers include: 571.224. 2201,571-330-4727.
I will advise everyone to avoid this girl unless you have some money that you want to get rid of. She is based out of Manassas, VA and has an outcall escort ad that says "Hot Blonde Looking to Have Some Unforgettable Fun With You" in the text. She will arrive to your place and asks for the money really quick. Then she sits there texting and will chit-chat for a little while. Shortly after she takes off with the money and you have been ripped off. There are simliar reviews out there on other sites as she has done this to many people. She will take your money and split or worse her thug pimp will be waiting for you.
Link to one of her ads:
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hot-blond-lookin-to-have-some-unforgettable-fun-with-you/16880952
RIP-OFF ALERT! DC / NOVA. BEWARE OF HOT-BLONDE / CANDACE / KRYSTLE (Manassas, VA outcall escort).
Ad Title: "Hot Blonde Looking to Have Some Unforgettable Fun With You".
Goes by the name of Candace but I think her real name is Krystle Simms.
She changes her phone number periodically. Previous numbers include: 571.224. 2201,571-330-4727.
I will advise everyone to avoid this girl unless you have some money that you want to get rid of. She is based out of Manassas, VA and has an outcall escort ad that says "Hot Blonde Looking to Have Some Unforgettable Fun With You" in the text. She will arrive to your place and asks for the money really quick. Then she sits there texting and will chit-chat for a little while. Shortly after she takes off with the money and you have been ripped off. There are simliar reviews out there on other sites as she has done this to many people. She will take your money and split or worse her thug pimp will be waiting for you.
Link to one of her ads:
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hot-blond-lookin-to-have-some-unforgettable-fun-with-you/16880952
Va Fun Tymes
09-21-15, 09:16
Hello all.
Saw a old review on here for Nina Monroe that wasnt to good. She has many reviews all over various sites.
Anyone seen her lately that can update if she is worth it? I don't mind the safety stuff.
https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=270669
Ntcuonghm1
09-23-15, 21:59
I happened to be in NOVA this morning, so I called Amorie to set up an appt:
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/limited-editionwell-reviewed-sweet-sexy-and-playful-923-925-book-now/15384590
She is cautious on the phone, and told me to get to the Herndon area. Once I got there, she texted me her hotel and then room number. She is the girl in the pics. Personally, I think she looks a bit better in person. Natural nice-shaped boobs, round big ass, athletic legs, and friendly. She is 5'6". The only physical weakness she has is her belly. She had twins, so she has a little baby damage. I opted for CBJ, covered quickie for $100. She was very accommodating and did not rush. I will repeat next time she is in town. She is from CA.
Bunker Buster
09-24-15, 12:01
TOFTT Amorie
I happened to be in NOVA this morning, so I called Amorie to set up an appt:
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/limited-editionwell-reviewed-sweet-sexy-and-playful-923-925-book-now/15384590
She is cautious on the phone, and told me to get to the Herndon area. Once I got there, she texted me her hotel and then room number. She is the girl in the pics. Personally, I think she looks a bit better in person. Natural nice-shaped boobs, round big ass, athletic legs, and friendly. She is 5'6". The only physical weakness she has is her belly. She had twins, so she has a little baby damage. I opted for CBJ, covered quickie for $100. She was very accommodating and did not rush. I will repeat next time she is in town. She is from CA.But you can't really 'TOFTT' with a girl who already has dozens of reviews on multiple sites (she gives her review numbers in the ad), including here.
Come enjoy a top notch and well reviewed GND.
ID:263779; P172580http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9224-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=2286965&viewfull=1#post2286965
Big Jizzle
09-24-15, 13:08
I've been eyeballing her for a while now 917-728-2872.
I have checked the forum and haven't seen any reviews on her which is surprising considering her menu and she is above average looking. I'm definitely going to take one for the team and report back if nobody has seen her. She's in Tyson's corner when she is in town. She's exactly the type of provider I'm looking for and need.
Thanks,
Uncle J.
Big Jizzle
09-24-15, 13:20
I've been eyeballing her for a while now 917-728-2872.
I have checked the forum and haven't seen any reviews on her which is surprising considering her menu and she is above average looking. I'm definitely going to take one for the team and report back if nobody has seen her. She's in Tyson's corner when she is in town. She's exactly the type of provider I'm looking for and need.
Thanks,
Uncle J.Apologies I'm trying to copy and paste the BP link, however I'm having issues with my phone doing this, but she is posted on BP, adult search, and The other site.
http://carmenlovely.escortbook.com/
This is her website address. I have never seen her but she has a number of positive reviews on the other website. Her websites says $$. 40 for the hour. Services listed include DFK, DT, BBBJCIM, SWALLOW and GREEK. She definitely sounds promising. With the large number of positive reviews, I don't think you have anything to worry about in terms of performance.
I don't have the budget to see anyone this week but if I was interested, she would be a good candidate. Her websites says her incall is in Fairfax / Fair Oaks and she will be here until Sept 26th. Her website says pictures of her with cum all over her face, acting as if she loves cum so it looks like she wants you to know that she is a cum loving ****. That is what I like in escorts!
Apologies I'm trying to copy and paste the BP link, however I'm having issues with my phone doing this, but she is posted on BP, adult search, and The other site.http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/for-your-eyes-only-w-gr8-reviews-new/11972767
She has great reviews on the oThER site and, if you like her looks and body type, provides exceptional GFE value for the $.
Slayer2012
09-24-15, 16:47
Someone has been cleaning up that infestation of Asian ads. Not sure who but THANKS!
Shallow Hall
09-24-15, 17:37
Someone in the PG County thread asked about a particular ad, and I recognized the pictures were stolen from this ad for someone I saw about a month ago:
http://posting.nova.backpage.com/online/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=18835199&uid=82385451b1e0b166ba3fb3c064c35607
Alessandra (the real person in those pictures) is a tall (maybe 6') mid-20's gal visiting from Argentina, here through October. Had to go through a booking agent which included screening, but it wasn't too much of a hassle.
Very friendly, doesn't rush, and her place in Tyson's is clean and private. Her English is passable. It was actually a little fun to explain certain words to her. Others give her a positive review as well.
Definitely recommend visiting.
Ntcuonghm1
09-24-15, 21:21
It seems to me that you know every girl in NOVA, Bunker Buster.)) When I looked at her ad a couple of days ago, she used a different number (707-.). I googled it, and nothing showed up. I did not search for her name in this forum, though. I have to say that I still have trouble searching this forum, so I've been missing a lot of useful info.
But you can't really 'TOFTT' with a girl who already has dozens of reviews on multiple sites (she gives her review numbers in the ad), including here.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9224-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=2286965&viewfull=1#post2286965
Bunker Buster
09-25-15, 02:27
It seems to me that you know every girl in NOVA, Bunker Buster.)) When I looked at her ad a couple of days ago, she used a different number (707-.). I googled it, and nothing showed up. I did not search for her name in this forum, though. I have to say that I still have trouble searching this forum, so I've been missing a lot of useful info.Still, I think her standard ad lists her number on the oThER board, and if you Google her full name 'Tyler Amorie,' you get her website with the 510 number, which you can use to search for more info. Of course, Google Image searches will bring up older ads as well.
Sometimes it takes digging an extra level or two, but if you run a variety of searches, you'll find almost everything. If you start going a few levels deeper and searching / cross-checking everything, you'll be amazed at how many times you end up with Facebook pages and other personal info.
How do I sift though the Asian fakes? Two ways. It helps if you don't patronize Asians. I rarely do.
First, if I have time and a screen larger than my phone, I switch to the gallery view. The fake Asian pics jump right out.
If I am viewing text, most of these fake Asian ads suffer from way too many emojis. Granted they may visually squeeze out the occasional text headline but at least I'm not wasting clicking on links that will just show me a disinterested girl in a swimsuit.http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/xxxx-cute-asian-great-massage-571-484-0493-near-centreville-xxxx/18615460
Initially I wouldn't waste my time with these Asian ads until one day I found the link above and decided to check it out. I was extremely glad that I did, $$. 6 for two girls for an hour and while one was middle aged the younger one and their sensual enthusiasm made up for the fact that the pics they advertise are obviously fake. If you like a young (early 20's) Asian with a great body, that erotic shyness and the desire they have to please you go ahead and call / text the number on the ad and ask if Lily is available!! Feel free to PM for details!! Creeping.
Incidentally, she's posted another ad on BP, but I doubt it will remain there long. She deleted all her previous ads due to LEO concerns and a desire to limit her clients to those she currently has. But, this new ad went up for a very specific reason. She also informed me, during my last visit (Monday), that she's considering not coming to the NoVa area as often due to the cost of hotels. She has some travel considerations, as well. So, if anyone wants to take her for a spin, strike while the iron is hot. Otherwise, you're likely to miss your chance.RR, I too have spent some time with her and like you said she may not be the spinner type but she has great reliable service and truly aims to please!! I truly enjoy her BBBJ and the fact that she isn't trying to get rich or take advantage of anyone, she merely likes what she does and it helps to pay the bills. Be nice to her, she's told me some stories and she won't take any BS!!
Creeping.
Ntcuonghm1
09-25-15, 20:17
Saw this ad: http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/look-me-last-day-beautiful-curvy-blonde-babe/19445586.
It was a bit weird to me because she did not put a link to her web page in the ad but said would give it out. I googled her number, just a few ads in CA came up. I called her, and she texted me the web page. From there, I got her email address and started to find out her older names and phone numbers and her reviews on TER. The reviews there were OK, so I decided to give it a try. She stayed at a nice hotel near an airport in the DC area. When she opened the door, I could tell she had put on about at least 30-40 lbs. The right word for her would be "chubby", I guess. However, I decided to move forward with the deal. After she got the money, it started to go down hill. Do not touch my hair, do not touch my face, I don't want anyone to kiss on my face. It was so funny but I did not say anything. I just smiled and said OK, no problem. LOL. Then we started with missionary. After the first few strokes, I smelled something bad down there. Let me tell you that it is the most horrible thing to me, personally. I started to get placid because I was scared of the smell, but I tried to stay focus and forget about it. After a while, she wanted to put her legs against my shoulders so that I could pound her more strongly and deeply. Oh man, that smell came back out more strongly and I had to give up. I became totally placid. I ran to the bathroom to have a shower and cleaned up my whole body with soap. She still did not understand what was going on. LOL. Did she not smell it at all from down there? I did not know and did not want to know. LOL. I said thank you and good bye and then left. The only good thing was I had managed to pay only $100 instead of $140. LOL. (Now I realize she changed her web pages and numbers so often because she is chubby now, does not have good hygiene, and does not provide good service.) Try her at your own risks. YMMV. LOL.
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