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DanielBoone
02-12-15, 10:26
http://www.wyff4.com/news/20-mug-shots-released-in-greenville-county-sex-sting/31212326

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02-12-15, 12:01
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Fredies Dream
02-12-15, 14:21
http://www.wyff4.com/news/20-mug-shots-released-in-greenville-county-sex-sting/31212326And the fact is this was two weeks leading up to the super bowl. This has become an every year thing. Knowing that we need to remind each other every year and be extra careful.

Lov2play
02-12-15, 16:07
I never heard of such a thing. Marking my calendar of the day NOT to go.

I'm waiting on National Pussy Day, oh yea LOL.

L2 p.

DanielBoone
09-14-15, 11:47
Trafficking in Charleston:

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150913/PC16/150919916/1177/charleston-state-trying-to-combat-sex-trafficking

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150912/PC16/150919919/1177/fbi-more-resources-needed-to-target-trafficking-online

I assume this means BP is under fire again.

AzineMan
09-14-15, 15:08
Trafficking in Charleston:

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150913/PC16/150919916/1177/charleston-state-trying-to-combat-sex-trafficking

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150912/PC16/150919919/1177/fbi-more-resources-needed-to-target-trafficking-online

I assume this means BP is under fire again.Reading the article the inference is that a significant proportion of escorts are coerced into prostitution.

An image of a worried LEO, fretting at the corruption of helpless young women throughout the state.

The reality. The important but minor issue of trafficking is a cover for further attacks on Backpage.

Law enforcement, and the sheriff of Cook county, won't rest until BP is shut down.

Shelby 500
09-14-15, 16:31
I believe that sex trafficking, regarless of it's magnitude, is a serious issue. It's a national issue and happens here. Organizations use statistics that confirm what they already believe so you have to be skeptical all the time. Nevertheless, it's clear that woman are being forced into the sex trade against their will. Backpage is in the same boat Craigslist found itself a few years ago.

http://www.traffickingresourcecenter.org/


Reading the article the inference is that a significant proportion of escorts are coerced into prostitution.

An image of a worried LEO, fretting at the corruption of helpless young women throughout the state.

The reality. The important but minor issue of trafficking is a cover for further attacks on Backpage.

Law enforcement, and the sheriff of Cook county, won't rest until BP is shut down.

Stormrider
05-21-16, 17:33
http://wspa.com/2016/05/20/54-arrested-in-prostitution-sting-in-simpsonville/

UpstateBailey
05-29-16, 08:02
I found a place to search providers numbers that may help!

www.escortpolice.com

Shelby 500
05-29-16, 12:50
Honey that's a scam site. They simply republish escort ads hoping to extort the lady to have the ad removed.


I found a place to search providers numbers that may help!

www.escortpolice.com

JohnVictor
05-29-16, 14:43
Now it makes sense! I was like "huh, what sting opertion would post everyday for 3 months? LOL.


Honey that's a scam site. They simply republish escort ads hoping to extort the lady to have the ad removed.

AzineMan
05-29-16, 22:10
Honey that's a scam site. They simply republish escort ads hoping to extort the lady to have the ad removed.Actually, the site is trying to scare mongers and prospective escort clients into trying Easysex, instead of Backpage itself. I don't think there is an intent to blackmail the provider for the purpose of getting the ad removed.

Just For Today
05-29-16, 22:40
Actually, the site is trying to scare mongers and prospective escort clients into trying Easysex, instead of Backpage itself. I don't think there is an intent to blackmail the provider for the purpose of getting the ad removed.Agree, promoting Easy Sex as the "Safe Site". The only thing Escortpolice is good for is collecting photos for me during research. Hell, Escorting is still perfectly legal here in SC, prostitution isn't.

007.

HardOne1973
05-29-16, 23:01
Just found this on MSN news feed:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/students-seeking-sugar-daddies-for-tuition-rent/ar-BBtC4iz?li=BBnbfcL

Member #6014
05-30-16, 21:17
Just found this on MSN news feed:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/students-seeking-sugar-daddies-for-tuition-rent/ar-BBtC4iz?li=BBnbfcLCosts more. Better results.

If you don't have the time and money, you'll fail. But you don't need a fortune.

SD / SB arrangements make BP seem like a dangerous and disappointing pursuit.

JeffMcg
05-31-16, 20:01
Just found this on MSN news feed:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/students-seeking-sugar-daddies-for-tuition-rent/ar-BBtC4iz?li=BBnbfcLWhat we now refer to as a SD / SB relationship has been referred to in past years as a man having a mistress. What seems to get muddled up in the SD / SB thing is that too many women are pros to begin with and believe that they can still see multiple clients while at the same time have one guy footing a considerable amount of jack to support her, and in many cases, her habit. On the flip side of this, a mistress should be seeing only the man who is fronting her the money in exchange for being the exclusive man in her life. Kind of like comparing ownership in a time share to renting an apartment. Keep in mind that my interpretation comes from a guy who has been around for more years than he has left, okay? Times change but this is how I feel it should be.

Jeff.

Whatup101
06-01-16, 12:31
It was just announced on the news by a Simpsonville city councilman that this sting was setup up by Simpsonville chief of police. It was an effort to show he is doing his job to save his ass from being fired. 54 people's lives screwed up because one person wants to save his ass and make himself look good. That's just messed up.

Stay safe and happy hunting.

Whatup.


http://wspa.com/2016/05/20/54-arrested-in-prostitution-sting-in-simpsonville/

AzineMan
06-01-16, 13:30
It was just announced on the news by a Simpsonville city councilman that this sting was setup up by Simpsonville chief of police. It was an effort to show he is doing his job to save his ass from being fired. 54 people's lives screwed up because one person wants to save his ass and make himself look good. That's just messed up.

Stay safe and happy hunting.

Whatup.Well stated sir; I couldn't agree with you more. The "crime' is a misdemeanor of minor importance, yet marriages are torn asunder, social disgrace; employment terminated; children harmed on the whim of a police chief.

After divorce, best of luck finding another job to pay for child support; for kids you see every other weekend.

A line from G&S Mikado is 'let the punishment fit the crime. ' That certainly doesn't apply for victims suffering the penalty of a prostitution conviction; whether it be the escort or the client.

Member #6251
06-01-16, 15:09
We all know the risks in this hobby. Don't do it if can't handle the consequences.


Well stated sir; I couldn't agree with you more. The "crime' is a misdemeanor of minor importance, yet marriages are torn asunder, social disgrace; employment terminated; children harmed on the whim of a police chief.

After divorce, best of luck finding another job to pay for child support; for kids you see every other weekend.

A line from G&S Mikado is 'let the punishment fit the crime. ' That certainly doesn't apply for victims suffering the penalty of a prostitution conviction; whether it be the escort or the client.

JohnVictor
06-01-16, 17:24
I do would not boo-who if I got caught. Knock on wood. I know its a crime even at that low level. But I also cannot discount.

The bad things come of that cash it goes to. Its a crime. But the media publizing I don't think helps the situation. I'm sure BP's interest went up 1000% over the last two weeks! More men look to see "wow, what's up there? Seriously. Simply write you a fine and send you on your way. Now, if your stupid enough to get busted 3 x. Well. Your done!! LOL just kidding.

All jokes aside, we point fingers at other countries for this. Do I wish it disappeared? Well, I'd probably own a Corvette and a 370 z! But the problem is here and I enjoy it. God forgive me!


Well stated sir; I couldn't agree with you more. The "crime' is a misdemeanor of minor importance, yet marriages are torn asunder, social disgrace; employment terminated; children harmed on the whim of a police chief.

After divorce, best of luck finding another job to pay for child support; for kids you see every other weekend.

A line from G&S Mikado is 'let the punishment fit the crime. ' That certainly doesn't apply for victims suffering the penalty of a prostitution conviction; whether it be the escort or the client.

Loves BJ
06-01-16, 19:35
Things might be going on in Spartanburg. Multiple girls are in custody for prostitution including one that was in the Simpsonville sting. Be safe.

NCguy50
06-01-16, 20:45
Well stated sir; I couldn't agree with you more. The "crime' is a misdemeanor of minor importance, yet marriages are torn asunder, social disgrace; employment terminated; children harmed on the whim of a police chief.

After divorce, best of luck finding another job to pay for child support; for kids you see every other weekend.

A line from G&S Mikado is 'let the punishment fit the crime. ' That certainly doesn't apply for victims suffering the penalty of a prostitution conviction; whether it be the escort or the client.I have always heard be careful during an election year since le wants to be in the news showing they are doing their business and elected Le want to keep their jobs. Looks good at budget time! Not like there are not enough true criminals to out away.

Powell
06-01-16, 23:11
Well stated sir; I couldn't agree with you more. The "crime' is a misdemeanor of minor importance, yet marriages are torn asunder, social disgrace; employment terminated; children harmed on the whim of a police chief.

After divorce, best of luck finding another job to pay for child support; for kids you see every other weekend.

A line from G&S Mikado is 'let the punishment fit the crime. ' That certainly doesn't apply for victims suffering the penalty of a prostitution conviction; whether it be the escort or the client.Funny thing. That Police Chief just lost his job. Saw that on the news, instead of fighting for his job he just resigned. Seems he ruin a lot lives for nothing. Just my thought.

Shelby 500
06-02-16, 10:43
That guy was on his way out even with the bust. It made no difference to his job security. In any case you can't blame LEO for doing their job or in doing it in a high profile manner. That gets them public support. Prostitution is a crime, although we think it's a victimless crime, except when the woman is underage or coerced. The only way to change is to vote in people who support legalization, just like Colorado did with pot. Put into perspective the bust in Simpsonville was the first any of us know about. Compare that to the multiple busts along the I-85 corridor over the last couple years. The lesson to be learned here is you have to screen ruthlessly no matter where, no matter when.


Funny thing. That Police Chief just lost his job. Saw that on the news, instead of fighting for his job he just resigned. Seems he ruin a lot lives for nothing. Just my thought.

CoolPanther
06-03-16, 09:10
That guy was on his way out even with the bust. It made no difference to his job security. In any case you can't blame LEO for doing their job or in doing it in a high profile manner. That gets them public support. Prostitution is a crime, although we think it's a victimless crime, except when the woman is underage or coerced. The only way to change is to vote in people who support legalization, just like Colorado did with pot. Put into perspective the bust in Simpsonville was the first any of us know about. Compare that to the multiple busts along the I-85 corridor over the last couple years. The lesson to be learned here is you have to screen ruthlessly no matter where, no matter when.I agree with Shelby on this matter. Legalization is the only way. Anyone that's forced or manipulated by someone should be punished severely. Screening tirelessly is the best option for anyone who wants to participate in this hobby.

DbrownHornet
06-04-16, 18:10
http://www.wyff4.com/news/27-arrested-in-Upstate-prostitution-sting-deputies-say/39900206

SPARTANBURG, S. C. —Twenty-seven people were arrested in an attempt to "curb prostitution" in Spartanburg County, the county's sheriff said.

Of the 27 arrested, 11 are streetwalkers, three are spa employees and 13 are internet suspects, deputies say.

Click here to see more mugshots.

The charges include prostitution, loitering for prostitution, public disorderly conduct, possession of cocaine base and possession with intent to distribute marijuana, the sheriff said.

Three bench warrants were served to suspects who were avoiding arrest and investigators also signed two drug warrants, deputies said.

Deputies said during the investigation, they discovered two abandoned properties on Lassiter and Sibley streets in Spartanburg that were being used for prostitution.

Lt. Kevin Bobo says several investigations are still underway for possible future charges of human trafficking.

Here are the names of 26 of the 27 arrested:

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Whatup101
06-05-16, 10:04
Damn,

I recognized 7 from backpage. Everyone be very careful.


http://www.wyff4.com/news/27-arrested-in-Upstate-prostitution-sting-deputies-say/39900206

SPARTANBURG, S. C. Twenty-seven people were arrested in an attempt to "curb prostitution" in Spartanburg County, the county's sheriff said.

Of the 27 arrested, 11 are streetwalkers, three are spa employees and 13 are internet suspects, deputies say.

Click here to see more mugshots.

The charges include prostitution, loitering for prostitution, public disorderly conduct, possession of cocaine base and possession with intent to distribute marijuana, the sheriff said.

Three bench warrants were served to suspects who were avoiding arrest and investigators also signed two drug warrants, deputies said.

Deputies said during the investigation, they discovered two abandoned properties on Lassiter and Sibley streets in Spartanburg that were being used for prostitution.

Lt. Kevin Bobo says several investigations are still underway for possible future charges of human trafficking.

Here are the names of 26 of the 27 arrested:

[Deleted by Admin]

Please REDACT names and address numbers from posted copies of media reports. (Please use "XXXXXXXXXX" to blank out names and address numbers).

Rushrgt
06-05-16, 15:30
Damn,

I recognized 7 from backpage. Everyone be very careful.Damn what a sad looking bunch of hookers! They must post fake pic or have really good photographers to ever get any business. They are so bad that they could pass for Asheville street walkers! LOL.

JeffMcg
06-05-16, 16:11
Damn,

I recognized 7 from backpage. Everyone be very careful.Who is the woman in photo 26 of 28? She is a stand out compared to the rest.

Agreed on being very careful. VERY, VERY careful!

Jeff.

HardOne1973
06-06-16, 15:24
Its [Deleted by Admin] who I reviewed several weeks ago. Don't think I'll be going back to see her anytime soon. She was also busted in the Greenville sting.Also, the blonde with short hair? Is that[Deleted by Admin]

Member #5139
06-06-16, 15:36
Also, the blonde with short hair? Is that [Deleted by Admin]Yup and the first one is [Deleted by Admin]It's safe to say that no one is safe.

JeffMcg
06-07-16, 15:22
.......and the first one is [Deleted by Admin] It's safe to say that no one is safe.I am blown away! I saw[Deleted by Admin] a couple of years back and in my memory she didn't look anything like that mugshot. Those pictures she uses in her ads were recent when I met her and she was VERY attractive with an incredible figure. Since her stay at the Gray Bar Hotel I had read comments that she had put on a few pounds, not a lot, just a few, and had aged a tad but, Lord, I never would have guessed that was her. What a shame.

Jeff.

Lov2play
06-07-16, 15:36
Looking at those gals that got busted the other day.

Just think how ugly we'd look! [Deleted by Admin] is hot normally. Damn I hate election years!

Member #5139
06-07-16, 23:38
Yea when she first came around she was really hot then I think she kind of fell off she didn't even remember having already met me a few times. She had gained some weight and had one of her breast bandaged up when I saw her a year later. Recently though she looked a lot healthier and a little plump and she didn't have that damn bandage on her breast and she was decent looking. I probably wouldn't repeat though and not really sure why I kept repeating I guess seeing her those first few times when she was smoking had given me hope.

Zauriel
09-15-18, 10:30
I hope that you all get through the storm safe and damage-free. We will most likely lose power for days, which means with no TV, Internet, etc I will probably have to kill time by fucking my wife. That's the real disaster here.

Topflight70en
09-15-18, 11:40
I hope that you all get through the storm safe and damage-free. We will most likely lose power for days, which means with no TV, Internet, etc I will probably have to kill time by fucking my wife. That's the real disaster here.It's in times of need that we find out who our real friends are.

I'm sure you can call on some of the group members to come over and help fuck your wife.

No man should have to face that burden alone. True friends help each other out.

Top.

SCanyon4321
09-15-18, 16:02
I hope that you all get through the storm safe and damage-free. We will most likely lose power for days, which means with no TV, Internet, etc I will probably have to kill time by fucking my wife. That's the real disaster here.Zauriel,

At least you have a wife to fuck. After two divorces and the providers we have to deal with I'm dating Rosie Palm and it's getting really old.

SCanyon.

Zauriel
09-16-18, 05:18
Hahaha! Thanks, Top. I wouldn't do that to my friends, though.

To be honest, I love her. But in the rare instance where she is interested in sex (not horny, but guilt dictates that she fulfill marital duties), the sex is terrible. I rarely finish.


It's in times of need that we find out who our real friends are.

I'm sure you can call on some of the group members to come over and help fuck your wife.

No man should have to face that burden alone. True friends help each other out.

Top.

LuverrLegs
10-22-18, 10:04
So I guess there was a sting in early Sept. . 4 days looking for child predators. Caught some other "johns" at the same time.

So here is my 2 cents, if she (adult providers) doesn't' have a history (reviews, posts from local cities), if she has an out of town number (typically hit and run visitors have terrible service and if the service is amazing. Well, don't give me a Harley for Christmas and take it away the next day! And certainly if the images look too good to be true. Your bells and whistles should be going off.

Stay safe and. Well, just be safe in what you do. Holidays are coming. UTR's will be looking for us more. (Hint: UTRs = No LEO etc. Listed above).

LL.

LuverrLegs
01-04-19, 13:57
This was on my Waze app and found it to be pretty hilarious! Who knew?

Shrink645
02-19-19, 08:21
Someone can verify but I do unfortunately believe this is Maria1990.

http://wyff4.com/article/2-people-found-dead-at-upstate-motel-coroner-says/26395425?src=app

I had seen her once and the PayPal name addy looked familiar. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

LowFlyerSpvl
02-19-19, 12:46
I don't know about Maria1990, but that is Leanna / Maria in the news.


Someone can verify but I do unfortunately believe this is Maria1990.

http://wyff4.com/article/2-people-found-dead-at-upstate-motel-coroner-says/26395425?src=app

I had seen her once and the PayPal name addy looked familiar. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

VincentSpies
02-19-19, 13:14
I don't know about Maria1990, but that is Leanna / Maria in the news.Wow. I just spoke to her briefly over text this past weekend.

RunDmc1972
02-19-19, 13:46
I don't know about Maria1990, but that is Leanna / Maria in the news.

I was arrested several years ago due to Hobby. During the "john" class we were advised the average time from when a provider starts the hobby untill her death was 7 years due to lifestyle choices, pimps, johns, demons and other high risk factors. This is the second provider in the last 90 days from the upstate who has died. And I know of at least 5 providers from ashville who have met the same fate in recent memory. Be sure the sheriffs office will use this incident to engage in enforcement activities and awareness.

SlobberKnocker
02-19-19, 19:04
Someone can verify but I do unfortunately believe this is Maria1990.

http://wyff4.com/article/2-people-found-dead-at-upstate-motel-coroner-says/26395425?src=app
I had seen her once and the PayPal name addy looked familiar. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.28 years old, and her parents said hill, 68, was her "boyfriend".

ABC1721
02-19-19, 19:11
Someone can verify but I do unfortunately believe this is Maria1990.

http://wyff4.com/article/2-people-found-dead-at-upstate-motel-coroner-says/26395425?src=app

I had seen her once and the PayPal name addy looked familiar. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.Hello All,

I have wanted to see her in the past, but we were never able to get our schedules to align. WOW!!! I am still flying under the radar for the most part just messing with a few UTRs every now and then.

Stay safe all!

Thanks,
ABC

Zauriel
02-20-19, 06:39
Being stabbed to death is a horrible way to go. I suspect the older gent she was with was a client. Were they murdered by her pimp? Her dealer? It's just horrible.


I don't know about Maria1990, but that is Leanna / Maria in the news.

I was arrested several years ago due to Hobby. During the "john" class we were advised the average time from when a provider starts the hobby untill her death was 7 years due to lifestyle choices, pimps, johns, demons and other high risk factors. This is the second provider in the last 90 days from the upstate who has died. And I know of at least 5 providers from ashville who have met the same fate in recent memory. Be sure the sheriffs office will use this incident to engage in enforcement activities and awareness.

ScGuy56
02-20-19, 14:12
Being stabbed to death is a horrible way to go. I suspect the older gent she was with was a client. Were they murdered by her pimp? Her dealer? It's just horrible.In one of the news report her parents said he was her "boyfriend". I am thinking he was her pimp or handler and a client offed them both. Or maybe the client was infatuated with her and got jealous and took them both out.

MtnPanda
02-20-19, 15:21
In one of the news report her parents said he was her "boyfriend". I am thinking he was her pimp or handler and a client offed them both. Or maybe the client was infatuated with her and got jealous and took them both out.Damn. I met her on SA last year and she was a sweet girl. That's a damn shame.

RunDmc1972
02-20-19, 15:28
Search as I can, I see nothing about a arrest or suspect. What's up with that? 2 people murdered and crickets.

RedBaron Daron
02-20-19, 15:30
I don't know about Maria1990, but that is Leanna / Maria in the news.

I was arrested several years ago due to Hobby. During the "john" class we were advised the average time from when a provider starts the hobby untill her death was 7 years due to lifestyle choices, pimps, johns, demons and other high risk factors. This is the second provider in the last 90 days from the upstate who has died. And I know of at least 5 providers from ashville who have met the same fate in recent memory. Be sure the sheriffs office will use this incident to engage in enforcement activities and awareness.They always frame it as human trafficking. What about women or men that make this choice as adults. What about their safety. Make it legal and give them the ability to call in the police if needed. It would cut down child trafficking to near nothing if women could call the police without retribution.

RBD out.

ScGuy56
02-20-19, 15:51
Search as I can, I see nothing about a arrest or suspect. What's up with that? 2 people murdered and crickets.I think he is still in the hospital. From what I read he was injured also. I just checked again. WSPA and WYFF are the only one I saw mentioning the third person. Fox doesn't.

PattrickDan
02-20-19, 16:57
Damn. I met her on SA last year and she was a sweet girl. That's a damn shame.Met her last summer. She was very sweet to me.

Stay safe.

PD.

Slabber
02-21-19, 08:08
Search as I can, I see nothing about a arrest or suspect. What's up with that? 2 people murdered and crickets.I knew the man who was killed with Maria, he was a friend of 25 years. He did a grading job me back in the summer and told me about having a young girlfriend. A mutual friend told me she lived on, and off with him at his house. I went and looked at all the news outlet stories, and wondered about the third person took to the hospital, but at this point, we know no more you all do. I will attend his service on Friday. This is all very sad.

MtnPanda
02-21-19, 10:51
I knew the man who was killed with Maria, he was a friend of 25 years. He did a grading job me back in the summer and told me about having a young girlfriend. A mutual friend told me she lived on, and off with him at his house. I went and looked at all the news outlet stories, and wondered about the third person took to the hospital, but at this point, we know no more you all do. I will attend his service on Friday. This is all very sad.Sorry to hear of your loss.

Zauriel
02-21-19, 12:14
So sorry, Slabber.


I knew the man who was killed with Maria, he was a friend of 25 years. He did a grading job me back in the summer and told me about having a young girlfriend. A mutual friend told me she lived on, and off with him at his house. I went and looked at all the news outlet stories, and wondered about the third person took to the hospital, but at this point, we know no more you all do. I will attend his service on Friday. This is all very sad.

Mrzclip
02-21-19, 21:09
It's not uncommon for older single man to fall pity for a younger gal in trouble. So I see this as likely the case. I also suspect (from what my friend just said) he was likely NOT a user. So here he is trying to just protect her from this clown that survived. Of course she will get into the fight also! Add in the drugs. It's a terrible terrible situation. Made worse by this older gent just being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Drug cause people to do terrible things. Like I need to say that. Two of the three can't tell anyone what really happened. So I hope and pray forensics gets it right!! I think there is slim possibility of him walking away. She didn't sound like the "rip off" kind.

He may have been the only person left to give two shits about her. Poor guy. Terrible!

MrZ.

Lov2play
02-22-19, 00:57
25 year friendships are few and far between. Sorry for your loss!

A horrific and sad situation for all involved.

Brothers and ladies that read USASG this could have happened to any one of us. When I think of some of the places and situations I have entered into over the years in the hobbie and realize how I could have been the man in the media, whew SMH.

Pause, reflect and chose very carefully.

L2 p.

TimBow52
02-22-19, 14:07
"New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft, one of the most powerful men in American football, was charged today on two counts of soliciting prostitution in connection to a recent law enforcement bust on massage parlors in Florida. ".....

LMFAO Deep breath HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

https://deadspin.com/patriots-owner-bob-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prosti-1832807440

RunDmc1972
02-22-19, 14:22
You laugh at the nfl owner and that's ok. But more importantly read critically. Between detailed review sites and a few traffic stops what they did there installing cameras per a search warrant they could do at our local places. If you remember the fbi had inside surveillance inside mob hang outs. They entered after hours to install them with court permission. Uncle LEO takes this trafficking thing very very seriously. Is this a isolated case or template.

AzineMan
02-22-19, 15:37
Just another victim, along with escorts and mongers, of the sadistic LE tactics. They just love to drag people down and humiliate and degrade them. A guy sees an escort for consensual sex; gets trapped by LE and can lose his wife, family and job in one fell swoop. Way out of proportion to the offense; a blatant misuse of judicial power.

Well, they have humiliated Mr Kraft, a guy who gave $400 million to charity through his foundation. Doubtless the press will forget his generous benevolence and focus on this trivial misdemeanor.

J2929
02-22-19, 21:59
Just another victim, along with escorts and mongers, of the sadistic LE tactics. They just love to drag people down and humiliate and degrade them. A guy sees an escort for consensual sex; gets trapped by LE and can lose his wife, family and job in one fell swoop. Way out of proportion to the offense; a blatant misuse of judicial power.

Well, they have humiliated Mr Kraft, a guy who gave $400 million to charity through his foundation. Doubtless the press will forget his generous benevolence and focus on this trivial misdemeanor.It's the human trafficking that is causing this kinda of operation and that is not consenting adults!

Bullshit, they change the laws to redefine all commercial sex work as trafficking. What used to be prostitution or running a house of prostitution is now trafficking.

Stop drinking the koolaid. Real trafficking is super rare in the states. That's why people ONLY get charged with it and never convicted. They are trying to say these guys are traffickers because the money they paid went to help the people who trafficked these poor woman who while living there could also come and go as they please.

This is just more moralistic US bullshit.

A2

CoolPanther
02-22-19, 22:13
Just another victim, along with escorts and mongers, of the sadistic LE tactics. They just love to drag people down and humiliate and degrade them. A guy sees an escort for consensual sex; gets trapped by LE and can lose his wife, family and job in one fell swoop. Way out of proportion to the offense; a blatant misuse of judicial power.

Well, they have humiliated Mr Kraft, a guy who gave $400 million to charity through his foundation. Doubtless the press will forget his generous benevolence and focus on this trivial misdemeanor.Just wanted to share my own two cents worth on this topic and my point of view is one of sadness and helplessness regarding the power that the government wields and if this can happen to him then wow. Personally I've tried to not be amused at someone else's misfortune and I'm thankful for not having to face that music even though we all are aware of the dangers of this particular hobby. My view is as long as the decision to enter this hobby was voluntary and all parties involved are of consenting age then let it be. I was also saddened to hear about the tragedy of the lives lost on wade hampton blvd this past week so let's all try to be safe out here.

Bbinsider
02-22-19, 22:18
Just another victim, along with escorts and mongers, of the sadistic LE tactics. They just love to drag people down and humiliate and degrade them. A guy sees an escort for consensual sex; gets trapped by LE and can lose his wife, family and job in one fell swoop. Way out of proportion to the offense; a blatant misuse of judicial power.

Well, they have humiliated Mr Kraft, a guy who gave $400 million to charity through his foundation. Doubtless the press will forget his generous benevolence and focus on this trivial misdemeanor.Well said!

Bbinsider
02-22-19, 22:23
You laugh at the nfl owner and that's ok. But more importantly read critically. Between detailed review sites and a few traffic stops what they did there installing cameras per a search warrant they could do at our local places. If you remember the fbi had inside surveillance inside mob hang outs. They entered after hours to install them with court permission. Uncle LEO takes this trafficking thing very very seriously. Is this a isolated case or template.This can happen to any of us. All they do is setup a camera or two and a license plate reader, wait around for several months, then charge everyone they can identify. AMPs were the safest venue out there. Now, we could be a sitting ducks at those places. I think the AMP era may be over.

RunDmc1972
02-22-19, 22:53
Just being on the property I do not think would be enough to charge. While I do not know I strongly suspect the police got a search warrant and hide cameras in the rooms after close. They bugged the club john Gotti hung out that is how they got him. The bottom line is the investigation in Florida was very through and shows what uncle LEO is capable of. Human trafficking is the hot button issue. I am sure there is tons of dollars in federal grant money available to help the local cop shop.

Lov2play
02-23-19, 02:56
I saw the news on Mr. Craft tonight, to me that Sheriff is full of it. What people will do just to get their 10 seconds of fame. I mean damn Craft is 77 years old, he's not married (wife died several years ago). He's just an old man looking for a massage! Next thing you know they'll be charging him with assault with a dead weapon.

L2 p.

Mrzclip
02-23-19, 12:40
So, he could get an amazing lawyer and sue the city. And if he won, . Thank that Sheriff for the money!! Kinda like "Hey fuck-idiot, why go after a billionaire when you should go after the real traffickers? They went after a guy in a massage parlor getting a handjob! Seriously? ? Who gives a FUCK? All of the millionaires are getting head 24/7. Kills me. Pure stupidity. I hope he sues. \.

Mrz.

Edssw45
02-23-19, 15:40
So, he could get an amazing lawyer and sue the city. And if he won, . Thank that Sheriff for the money!! Kinda like "Hey fuck-idiot, why go after a billionaire when you should go after the real traffickers? They went after a guy in a massage parlor getting a handjob! Seriously? ? Who gives a FUCK? All of the millionaires are getting head 24/7. Kills me. Pure stupidity. I hope he sues. \.

Mrz.The real crime here is the hurt the family members have to endure over a simple misdemeanor. These places are open because they are needed. Like a gas station and grocery store.

SlobberKnocker
02-23-19, 21:22
The real crime here is the hurt the family members have to endure over a simple misdemeanor. These places are open because they are needed. Like a gas station and grocery store.You are missing the point: the only reason it's even on the news is because he is who he is. If Joe Blow gets busted trying to get a hand job at the local AMP, nobody gives a shit. If a hundred Joe Blows get busted trying to get a hand job at an AMP, nobody gives a shit. BUT one rich and relatively well known billionaire gets busted trying to get a hand job at an AMP, and its national news. That's the only reason the media even took notice of it.

Guys get busted for solicitation every day and noone takes any notice. Even the sting operation in Atlanta prior to the superbowl barely made the news and was off the radar the day after it happened because there was really nothing truly sensational about it.

There was a HUGE sting operation down in orlando (last week?) That everyone I'd talking about in multiple cities on this board, and THAT barely made the news, despite the TRULY scary implications of what the details of that operation imply: bugs? Surveillance? License plate recognition? More arrests (lots of them) yet to come?? AFTER THE FACT? Not just caught in the act, it a dude makes a visit to an AMP, makes it out ok, goes home to the wife and kiddies, and days / weeks / months later Uncle LEO shows up at the door? BAM!

NOW, the media has a reason to make a big deal out of it: NOW its national news!!

Its going to be the #metoo movement all over again. It's the latest cause-of-the-day. Uncle LEO doesn't care about busting "providers" and / or "hobbyists", but HOLY SHIT, they sure as hell want to be able to say they broke up a "human trafficking ring" and that's exactly what they WILL say.

Because now it's in the news it got someone's ATTENTION.

NOW it's an issue.

Now we wait and see what other tactics they are willing to use to put an end to the human trafficking epidemic in the upstate and everywhere else.

It's not about what's true, it's about how they spin it.

SlobberKnocker
02-23-19, 21:35
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SlobberKnocker
02-23-19, 23:36
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/golf/2019/02/23/johnny-delprete-jessica-korda-arrested-soliciting-prostitution-florida-sex-sting/39104085/

See what I mean?

It's the next big thing.

Like anybody has actually heard of this fucking guy!

BUT because he has some degree of notariety, even if only for having a semi-famous girlfriend, its news.

I don't know about you guys, but at least for ME, it's time to take a break from the hobby. Too much to lose.

Slobberknocker out!

ClamDigger69
02-24-19, 08:17
I saw the news on Mr. Craft tonight, to me that Sheriff is full of it. What people will do just to get their 10 seconds of fame. I mean damn Craft is 77 years old, he's not married (wife died several years ago). He's just an old man looking for a massage! Next thing you know they'll be charging him with assault with a dead weapon.

L2 p.Now that's funny.

Pappa54
02-26-19, 00:20
It seems FL has overshadowed what we should be debating in the upstate.

The tragedy of what happened to Leanne and her gent is much more disturbing than a few Asian jack stores in Florida. It is a discussion that should be in the forefront for anyone reading and participating in the upstate forum.

I have had a few conversations behind the scenes here and there are still some items that would be useful for risk avoidance for the hobbyists in the area. Things like:

* What provider incalls should be avoided?

* What providers are risky to see?

* Which providers are deep in demons?

* Which have obvious undesirable management?

* Which are just skanks that will rob you?

* How do you handle an aggressive 3 party realistically?

And the opposite:

* What are the good incalls?

* What providers are hands down safe?

* What are the benefits or you hosting an outcall.

That shit was real last week. Some poor fucker got gutted with one of our girls we see who was actually a nice kid.

I am looking for comments here boys, not bravado. It is an open subject that shout be vetted. I for one am scratching any incall where dealers and thugs hand out. Not only does it increase your risk, it is a waste of time, even if the provider was Jennifer Anniston beautiful and she really wanted you to plow that ass and facialize her with baby batter.

Just my thoughts.

Peace.

Pappa54.

CoochieMac
02-26-19, 08:49
I heard interview with Martin county FL sheriff. Besides riding his moral high horse, he was trying to justify why he let "victims" remain in "danger" for over 6 months after he had enough evidence to bring trafficking charges- could have ended all the "suffering " he's lamented. But, more to the point, he stated many LEO agencies from across the country have contacted him to discuss tactics. Namely, St Louis and Greenville- SC I presume. I'm also hearing Miami 's elite legal community has became engaged by Kraft, and have filed motions block any distribution of video or photographs. Seems sheriff being accused of polluting jury pool and, if case moved to Hialeah, jury not likely to convict anyone. Also, Miami area judges more likely surpress videos without sound. Detroit playaz are talkin about a situation in McAllen TX last year when uc LEO made bust of AMP and found the owners had installed cams which produced videos that led to a few mongers being charged with trafficking. Hit And Miss News blog details "White Knight" syndrome of Vero cops going in for multiple "uc sessions" in order to "investigate " human trafficking. Sounds like a lot misdeeds being exposed. Stay tuned.

MagicStixx
02-26-19, 10:19
It seems FL has overshadowed what we should be debating in the upstate.

The tragedy of what happened to Leanne and her gent is much more disturbing than a few Asian jack stores in Florida. It is a discussion that should be in the forefront for anyone reading and participating in the upstate forum.

I have had a few conversations behind the scenes here and there are still some items that would be useful for risk avoidance for the hobbyists in the area. Things like:

* What provider incalls should be avoided?

* What providers are risky to see?

* Which providers are deep in demons?

* Which have obvious undesirable management?

* Which are just skanks that will rob you?

* How do you handle an aggressive 3 party realistically?

And the opposite:

* What are the good incalls?

* What providers are hands down safe?

* What are the benefits or you hosting an outcall.

That shit was real last week. Some poor fucker got gutted with one of our girls we see who was actually a nice kid.

I am looking for comments here boys, not bravado. It is an open subject that shout be vetted. I for one am scratching any incall where dealers and thugs hand out. Not only does it increase your risk, it is a waste of time, even if the provider was Jennifer Anniston beautiful and she really wanted you to plow that ass and facialize her with baby batter.

Just my thoughts.

Peace.

Pappa54.Yes this discussion needs to be in the for front not about some rich dude getting popped. This is could of been anyone of us. Has anyone heard anymore details on the third person taken to hospital?

Stixx.

RunDmc1972
02-26-19, 11:29
I have been preaching the benefits of outcall since day one. No more checking showers or running a gauntlet just to get to room. Plus the chance of uncle LEO sending a women solo to your room is slim. Get a spot that is not notorious for the hobby. $10 to $20 in hotel room fees can get you from a 1 star to a 3 star hotel. As far as demons lets not kid ourselves. If she is in the hobby the demons are calling the shots. If you think otherwise you are in a cognitive confusion. I have a very hard and fast personal rule no one else in room. The very few times I received a unexpected knock at the door I have retreated to the inner most part of room (usually sink area) this allows girl escape route to door. By the time I am at my location I have produced a gun. My rule is when she opens the door if she leaves I have taken a lost. If anyone enters room they will be then one taking the loss. I feel most mongers underestimate the real risk of this hobby. For every cash and dash or worse we hear about there are probably 10 we do not. If you do partake in a outcall do some research. If it is a apartment complex how dangerous is it?? Google the address. Stay away from any two girl teams. 2 girls plus management plus support staff plus customers equals 60 plus people in and out during month. How soon does that get noticed? I read on here one girl has been using a abandoned apartment in her complex for months. What type of complex can afford a vacancy for so long?? By now how many know the deal?? Inclosing. When I do outcall I often meet them in public does she pull up in a car full of dudes. Does she look like the photos?? I often meet them at a cvs goodwill or walmart. The bottom line is this. You are the only one who is looking out for you. Be as paranoid as possible. Do some girls balk at my cloak and dagger requests? Yes. But I would rather have a good drama free experiences, then any bs. You are shelling out good money. Have it your way. Stay safe.

Lov2play
02-26-19, 11:48
Not to be argumentative in no way, but this train of thought came to mind.

This is the News and Media Report section, correct? So anything in the news and media can be posted here. I agree 110% the stabbing in GreenVegas was beyond horrible and should be in the forefront of our minds but truth is I for one have not seen or read one word about "the third man" or anything else pertaining to this story, in the media. However every time I turn the on the boobtube there it is, trafficking in Florida. I saw where an upstate deputy was arrested in the Florida sting, whoops, LOL.

My point is, hopefully we are talking / reporting the good, the bad and the ugly and have been doing this for the reason to keep ourselves safe and to spend our money wisely in all necessary sections like, the Escort Section, Massage Parlor Section, UTR Section and so on.

To sum it up, I'm just saying brothers, this forum is one of very few ways we have to keep each other informed, in all sections, so lets keep that in mind when reporting as to the good, the bad and the ugly. Heck I don't get the pleasure of enjoying the hobbie no where near as much as I use too, but when I do go I want to know where its safe and have a great time.

Stay Safe All.

L2 p.

Pappa54
02-26-19, 23:59
If he is arrested, than they will not let much info out due to tainting the public on potential jurors I would believe. But from info I got, she out called to him and he stiffed her and robbed her and Sugar D came to get it straight and this punk did then both. The biggest takeaway would be to stop with the low end fuck-tels, flea bags and trailers. If not for personal safety, than the fact you are walking out with bed bugs you are taking home to gestate in your own bed.

Although most providers have or are near the demon stage, you can basically tell them you won't go to a rat trap anymore and then put it on them to find an acceptable venue.

Peace.

Pappa54.


Not to be argumentative in no way, but this train of thought came to mind.

This is the News and Media Report section, correct? So anything in the news and media can be posted here. I agree 110% the stabbing in GreenVegas was beyond horrible and should be in the forefront of our minds but truth is I for one have not seen or read one word about "the third man" or anything else pertaining to this story, in the media. However every time I turn the on the boobtube there it is, trafficking in Florida. I saw where an upstate deputy was arrested in the Florida sting, whoops, LOL.

My point is, hopefully we are talking / reporting the good, the bad and the ugly and have been doing this for the reason to keep ourselves safe and to spend our money wisely in all necessary sections like, the Escort Section, Massage Parlor Section, UTR Section and so on.

To sum it up, I'm just saying brothers, this forum is one of very few ways we have to keep each other informed, in all sections, so lets keep that in mind when reporting as to the good, the bad and the ugly. Heck I don't get the pleasure of enjoying the hobbie no where near as much as I use too, but when I do go I want to know where its safe and have a great time.

Stay Safe All.

L2 p.

Slabber
03-04-19, 17:45
If he is arrested, than they will not let much info out due to tainting the public on potential jurors I would believe. But from info I got, she out called to him and he stiffed her and robbed her and Sugar D came to get it straight and this punk did then both. The biggest takeaway would be to stop with the low end fuck-tels, flea bags and trailers. If not for personal safety, than the fact you are walking out with bed bugs you are taking home to gestate in your own bed.

Although most providers have or are near the demon stage, you can basically tell them you won't go to a rat trap anymore and then put it on them to find an acceptable venue.

Peace.

Pappa54.You heard it right, I got straight form LEO, since I knew the guy personally, I called, and ask them. They (the two dead victims) went to the hotel to get money from the guy, deal gone wrong kind of thing, they had metal pipes with them starting beating the guy, he stabbed both of them in self defense. Looks like he will not be charged, but that is not finalized yet.

FWIW, I only do outcalls and mostly only with ladies you guys have positively reviewed, I am single, so I don't have to deal with any wife / gf drama, so easier and safer for them to come to me, yeah it cost a little more, but safer for me, food for thought.

LuverrLegs
03-04-19, 21:34
She was with her friend at another hotel earlier in the day. I guess she said she got ripped off by someone. But I'm hearing something about a ring and $20? So maybe they went back to retrieve that. But then again, when it comes to drugs. Who knows!

LL.


You heard it right, I got straight form LEO, since I knew the guy personally, I called, and ask them. They (the two dead victims) went to the hotel to get money from the guy, deal gone wrong kind of thing, they had metal pipes with them starting beating the guy, he stabbed both of them in self defense. Looks like he will not be charged, but that is not finalized yet.

FWIW, I only do outcalls and mostly only with ladies you guys have positively reviewed, I am single, so I don't have to deal with any wife / gf drama, so easier and safer for them to come to me, yeah it cost a little more, but safer for me, food for thought.

RunDmc1972
03-04-19, 22:31
As the details slip out. It makes more sense. I was wondering why the identity of the third party was being with held. I understand all the details will never be known. If she arrived at the room with a pipe that was a poor choice. If the male went with her considering his age. That was even more of a bad choice. I know it has been repeated a 1000 x in the past few weeks but this hobby is dangerous. And filled with unintended consequences. While I agree avoiding the worse of the hotels just to avoid the element that hangs out their and monitors the location (uncle) is a good idea. In this case she brought the fight to the location. That could have been a 1 star or a 5 star location or a residence. While I detest thievery or dirty dealing by all parties. (which I why this forum is so helpful) I understand why the surviving party responded as he did. What would you do?? Especially after the 2 or third strike. Stay safe.

Pappa54
03-05-19, 03:35
If they went to recover stolen property loaded for bear, if the guy had stolen something and had a blade to protect himself, it is all bad mojo. But nothing changes. It was a low end meeting place. Which increase confrontation possibilities 10 fold. Vast majority of these type encounters are at the low end locations. The better the location, the better security. If the provider wants to do a meet at low end, tell her no. Everyone can find a secure meeting place. Tell them you will take a service discount because you are providing the place that is not a shit hole and they can have the soaps, toilet paper and a towel for there troubles. But you are not going to shit holes. Your safety and probability of getting robbed diminishes greatly. We put ourselves in these bad situations because of the thrill of the hobby. If as a group we tell these providers we don't do shit holes, eventually they will change. It just takes balls to do it. I have, it works.

Peace.

Pappa54.


As the details slip out. It makes more sense. I was wondering why the identity of the third party was being with held. I understand all the details will never be known. If she arrived at the room with a pipe that was a poor choice. If the male went with her considering his age. That was even more of a bad choice. I know it has been repeated a 1000 x in the past few weeks but this hobby is dangerous. And filled with unintended consequences. While I agree avoiding the worse of the hotels just to avoid the element that hangs out their and monitors the location (uncle) is a good idea. In this case she brought the fight to the location. That could have been a 1 star or a 5 star location or a residence. While I detest thievery or dirty dealing by all parties. (which I why this forum is so helpful) I understand why the surviving party responded as he did. What would you do?? Especially after the 2 or third strike. Stay safe.

LuverrLegs
03-06-19, 20:54
Now it's adding up!

I still think he is guilty under some rule.

He fucking started it.

LL.


She did an outcall to this guy (the extended stay room was his) and he not only stiffed her on the payment but stole cash and a very valuable ring from her. Either she went and got this guy (her ex bf / sugar daddy) and they allegedly came back and beat the guy, mostly to get the stolen items. It had absolutely nothing to do with drugs.

RunDmc1972
03-06-19, 21:45
Charged with what? Not paying for services provided? If I steal your tv and you know it is in my house, you can't just show up and kick the door down. If you choose to you have to deal with the fall out. Sometimes you have to cut your losses.

RunDmc1972
03-08-19, 12:58
https://www.wyff4.com/amp/article/woman-says-armed-robber-sexually-assaulted-her-in-greenville-motel/26755648

Was she in the life, I do not know. Second headline grabbing incident at a no tell. Attracts attention.

Gvillenftown
03-10-19, 04:33
You heard it right, I got straight form LEO, since I knew the guy personally, I called, and ask them. They (the two dead victims) went to the hotel to get money from the guy, deal gone wrong kind of thing, they had metal pipes with them starting beating the guy, he stabbed both of them in self defense. Looks like he will not be charged, but that is not finalized yet.

FWIW, I only do outcalls and mostly only with ladies you guys have positively reviewed, I am single, so I don't have to deal with any wife / gf drama, so easier and safer for them to come to me, yeah it cost a little more, but safer for me, food for thought.Yeah but that can be worse. I used to do this until I started getting broken into and vandalized. Best if you have a room but costs more. Don't bring them in your place I got so much crap stolen and thugs knowing where I live. In the end you can never trust any of these girls. I've had some I knew for years but at some point it all turns. Either you get robbed or vandalized or the girl feels you owe her and starts asking for money with no services like why'all are friends or wants some kind of favor or risk from you. The only girls you can even slightly trust are the girls off Eros Nc they cost so much and keep a business bc at those rates they can't affird bad press.

RunDmc1972
05-07-19, 14:29
https://www.foxcarolina.com/news/oconee-co-deputies-searching-for-missing-seneca-woman-who-hasn/article_b4247d40-70ea-11e9-bc67-d75822147802.html

Was posting in anderson mid March.

IronFist1
05-14-19, 17:33
Check out operation May Day. Everyone be careful. I couldn't get it to copy and paste.

Jimbo7
05-14-19, 18:31
https://www.foxcarolina.com/investigations/greenville-police-charge-men-after-operation-may-day-prostitution-sting/article_aeb31c1a-7679-11e9-8b61-8f01bd0a472c.html

Mark User
05-14-19, 18:33
https://www.foxcarolina.com/investigations/greenville-police-charge-men-after-operation-may-day-prostitution-sting/article_aeb31c1a-7679-11e9-8b61-8f01bd0a472c.htmlAre they targeting us?

Mutiny33
05-14-19, 21:02
Wow, hope no one here got snatched up. Be safe out there!!

https://www.wspa.com/amp/news/27-men-arrested-in-prostitution-sting-in-greenville/2001403059

RunDmc1972
05-15-19, 08:25
E=Mark User;4274966]Are they targeting us?

Prostitution arrests are always popular. Uncle LEO is " helping the" victim" and " cleaning up the community" and do not forget some how I am sure it is to protect the children. I have have been mongering since late 90's. I have not done incall since 13 (and that was with a very well known provider, but still not wise) outcall is a pain no shows, providers being late. Costs. But it makes it a pain for uncle LEO. It is much more dangerous for uncle going into unknown situations, jurisdictional issues. A operation like this one involved 3 different agencies, so you can be assured it was well staffed. Pushes like this are number driven. It is much easier for uncle LEO to set the trap and have you and twenty some of your friends come to him then him drive all around chasing you. With the double murder earlier (even tho it happened in county not city.) this year I am surprised it did not happen earlier.

Please take all the precautions you can.

When you think you have taken enough take 25% more.

Ask the gym teacher who will end up being fired after 19 years because of this event if 90 bucks at the xyz hotel for a outcall would have been money well spent. #outcall only.

CoolPanther
05-15-19, 11:21
E=Mark User;4274966]Are they targeting us?

Prostitution arrests are always popular. Uncle LEO is " helping the" victim" and " cleaning up the community" and do not forget some how I am sure it is to protect the children. I have have been mongering since late 90's. I have not done incall since 13 (and that was with a very well known provider, but still not wise) outcall is a pain no shows, providers being late. Costs. But it makes it a pain for uncle LEO. It is much more dangerous for uncle going into unknown situations, jurisdictional issues. A operation like this one involved 3 different agencies, so you can be assured it was well staffed. Pushes like this are number driven. It is much easier for uncle LEO to set the trap and have you and twenty some of your friends come to him then him drive all around chasing you. With the double murder earlier (even tho it happened in county not city.) this year I am surprised it did not happen earlier.

Please take all the precautions you can.

When you think you have taken enough take 25% more.

Ask the gym teacher who will end up being fired after 19 years because of this event if 90 bucks at the xyz hotel for a outcall would have been money well spent. #outcall only.Personally it's so irritating to target consenting adults this way. I am not referring to women who are forced, kidnapped and trafficked into this profession. In my opinion they would rather men ruin their mothers, sisters and cousins that they know, love and cherish and think the world of and after going through the pretense of being involved in a "respectable or traditional " relationship dump them after we've used them emotionally and physically. As Run says be careful and add 25% more caution to your actions.

Pappa54
05-15-19, 11:23
Outcall is always safer because it is on your terms. A hassle. Somewhat. RunD is correct on the overview with LEO.

Peace.

Pappa54.


E=Mark User;4274966]Are they targeting us?

Prostitution arrests are always popular. Uncle LEO is " helping the" victim" and " cleaning up the community" and do not forget some how I am sure it is to protect the children. I have have been mongering since late 90's. I have not done incall since 13 (and that was with a very well known provider, but still not wise) outcall is a pain no shows, providers being late. Costs. But it makes it a pain for uncle LEO. It is much more dangerous for uncle going into unknown situations, jurisdictional issues. A operation like this one involved 3 different agencies, so you can be assured it was well staffed. Pushes like this are number driven. It is much easier for uncle LEO to set the trap and have you and twenty some of your friends come to him then him drive all around chasing you. With the double murder earlier (even tho it happened in county not city.) this year I am surprised it did not happen earlier.

Please take all the precautions you can.

When you think you have taken enough take 25% more.

Ask the gym teacher who will end up being fired after 19 years because of this event if 90 bucks at the xyz hotel for a outcall would have been money well spent. #outcall only.

TomaIn
05-15-19, 20:07
E=Mark User;4274966]Are they targeting us?

Prostitution arrests are always popular. Uncle LEO is " helping the" victim" and " cleaning up the community" and do not forget some how I am sure it is to protect the children. I have have been mongering since late 90's. I have not done incall since 13 (and that was with a very well known provider, but still not wise) outcall is a pain no shows, providers being late. Costs. But it makes it a pain for uncle LEO. It is much more dangerous for uncle going into unknown situations, jurisdictional issues. A operation like this one involved 3 different agencies, so you can be assured it was well staffed. Pushes like this are number driven. It is much easier for uncle LEO to set the trap and have you and twenty some of your friends come to him then him drive all around chasing you. With the double murder earlier (even tho it happened in county not city.) this year I am surprised it did not happen earlier.

Please take all the precautions you can.

When you think you have taken enough take 25% more.

Ask the gym teacher who will end up being fired after 19 years because of this event if 90 bucks at the xyz hotel for a outcall would have been money well spent. #outcall only.Completely agree with Run. In WA, I used to get a room at the Embassy Suites. I would have the $$ laying on the table by the tv in the outer room. When she showed, I would look at it and if she asked for $$ I would just look at what I had laid out. I never talked about $$ in their presence nor did I ever touch the $$ in their presence. If they pick it up, that's on them. I never offered nor could they claim I paid for a service.

LuverrLegs
05-17-19, 22:20
Not a lot of forgiveness in that church! Yeah, outcall is on my list. But still check the reviews and postinfs.

LL.


Wow, hope no one here got snatched up. Be safe out there!!

https://www.wspa.com/amp/news/27-men-arrested-in-prostitution-sting-in-greenville/2001403059

Oxman44
06-12-19, 17:31
Health day in. In Simpsonville got one of there ladies arrested for prostitution. It was in the Greenville News online today.

Ebinsc
07-11-19, 19:14
https://www.wspa.com/news/investigations/behind-closed-doors-international-human-trafficking-ring-busted-in-the-upstate/

Muffdiver01
08-22-19, 16:17
https://www.wspa.com/news/21-arrested-in-undercover-human-trafficking-sting-in-spartanburg-co/

Fredies Dream
05-15-20, 08:54
Maybe this was already in place with the Patriot Act IDK. But this is scary on many levels. Makes me think twice about coming to this site. What do you think?

https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/jgxxvk/senate-votes-to-allow-fbi-to-look-at-your-web-browsing-history-without-a-warrant?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR35YcyP_hZ2hzZXsApaiJas410aD55lVv-u_713tbYGYcpHalJvwFknjq0

Shrink645
05-15-20, 09:50
Maybe this was already in place with the Patriot Act IDK. But this is scary on many levels. Makes me think twice about coming to this site. What do you think?

https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/jgxxvk/senate-votes-to-allow-fbi-to-look-at-your-web-browsing-history-without-a-warrant?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR35YcyP_hZ2hzZXsApaiJas410aD55lVv-u_713tbYGYcpHalJvwFknjq0It certainly appears to be a first amendment grab. Interesting that several, including Bernie Sanders failed to appear to vote.

Another slow erosion of basic privacy rights.

Clemsoncat
05-15-20, 09:51
Maybe this was already in place with the Patriot Act IDK. But this is scary on many levels. Makes me think twice about coming to this site. What do you think?

https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/jgxxvk/senate-votes-to-allow-fbi-to-look-at-your-web-browsing-history-without-a-warrant?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR35YcyP_hZ2hzZXsApaiJas410aD55lVv-u_713tbYGYcpHalJvwFknjq0My understanding is yes this was apart of the Patriot Act and that part had expired and this bill renews it. I use a VPN when online so hopefully that would help with something like this.

JeffMcg
05-15-20, 22:40
It certainly appears to be a first amendment grab. Interesting that several, including Bernie Sanders failed to appear to vote.

Another slow erosion of basic privacy rights.We are facing a serious depletion of our rights as American citizens and while it has been steadily escalating over the past couple of decades it has gone into hyperdrive with this virus nonsense. I'm afraid things will get worse before they get better and it may be time to look into a move to someplace remote.

Jeff.

Ebinsc
07-25-20, 12:15
Always consider the source, but.

https://www.fitsnews.com/2020/07/23/thornblade-scandals-wealthy-upstate-south-carolina-community-about-to-be-rocked/

MartyBass864
08-29-20, 17:28
https://www.foxcarolina.com/investigations/anderson-co-deputies-searching-for-woman-last-seen-one-week-ago-lives-with-medical-issues/article_7f476764-e406-11ea-ad2b-13c27b907ddf.amp.html

Greeenville city has been advised of her current location per ad. FYI.

MartyBass864
09-21-20, 15:33
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/barr-announces-100m-more-to-combat-human-trafficking/ar-BB19gBKW?ocid=hplocalnews

MartyBass864
10-06-20, 20:45
https://www.wspa.com/news/oklahoma-woman-faces-prostitution-charge-after-undercover-operation-at-spa-in-oconee-co/

Uncle LEO stopped by. I wonder how soon they will be closed for " new carpeting".

MartyBass864
11-26-20, 07:10
https://www.foxcarolina.com/news/anderson-co-deputies-21-arrested-in-prostitution-bust/article_fabf4cd2-2f91-11eb-8ec9-c32b5dd50cda.amp.

Anderson County got 21 in a sting on November 25 2020.

Pool Noodle
03-17-21, 06:57
By now you may have seen media reports of shootings at 3 AMPs in GA. Likely to mean increased scrutiny and nerves at these establishments.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/4728084001

Be careful,

Noodle.

BlackManWorkin
04-21-21, 01:08
If you've been in cruising the hobby in Greenville, SC for a while, you may recognize the person in the report.

https://www.wyff4.com/article/woman-2-men-charged-with-2014-cold-case-shooting-death-of-roommate-sheriff-says/36176705

Gary Ridgeway
04-21-21, 15:36
https://dnyuz.com/2021/04/21/manhattan-to-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-of-nationwide-shift/

Mdcma
04-22-21, 08:06
If you've been in cruising the hobby in Greenville, SC for a while, you may recognize the person in the report.

https://www.wyff4.com/article/woman-2-men-charged-with-2014-cold-case-shooting-death-of-roommate-sheriff-says/36176705Is that Kimberly?

JMAbacus
04-22-21, 10:16
https://dnyuz.com/2021/04/21/manhattan-to-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-of-nationwide-shift/Good info Gary. I didn't realize that multiple areas of the US had started to treat this transaction logically although many countries went this direction years ago. Just think, within the next 50 years both pot and sex will be legal in SC. I predict we will be in the last 5 states to acknowledge the need for change but it will get here eventually.

ErosPilot
04-23-21, 00:47
https://dnyuz.com/2021/04/21/manhattan-to-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-of-nationwide-shift/What I did not see in that report is that they are still going to prosecute patronizing sex workers.

Gary Ridgeway
05-15-21, 11:49
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9579783/Facial-recognition-website-PimEyes-searches-900M-photos-people-online-scary-accuracy.html

Gary Ridgeway
07-10-21, 19:53
If you are going to Nikit.

Exit 66 out of service. Dip at exit 60 https://www.foxcarolina.com/news/scdops-trash-truck-overturned-on-i-85-near-mile-marker-66-2-lanes-blocked/article_a4d96f58-e1cc-11eb-885d-1f6fb10cebad.html?block_id=1015380.

SimpSince1991
11-22-21, 17:10
https://www.foxcarolina.com/news/coroner-called-to-the-trophy-club-in-greenville/article_f82df204-4bd1-11ec-ae99-bf2312892435.html?block_id=994016

JMAbacus
11-23-21, 12:21
https://www.foxcarolina.com/news/coroner-called-to-the-trophy-club-in-greenville/article_f82df204-4bd1-11ec-ae99-bf2312892435.html?block_id=994016Guessing the attached report is an OD or long shot would be heart attack. Regardless, drove by Trophy on a Thursday a couple weeks ago around 8. Maybe a dozen cars but I didn't have any interest in going inside for a $30 dance from an average looking woman with a thong. On a related note, I went by Godiva's on Augusta /25 on that same night. Two cars in the parking lot and nobody parked on the sides of the building. Guessing that it's just the sports bar side open now? Two cars would be the doorman and the bartender if in fact it was open. Hoping that the idiot Russian lady is gone and someone else would take over and pave the parking lot, repair the HVAC, open up the strip club, and bring back the reasonable drink prices and the occasional average looking stripper. At this rate it looks like both sides will be closed shortly. Anybody have any insight? Thanks.

SimpSince1991
12-09-21, 12:09
https://www.wyff4.com/article/sc-supreme-court-ruling-bucks-racks-ribs/38464927

Hopefully they will close. High prices bad attitudes.

RubOnMe3
12-11-21, 14:20
Good info Gary. I didn't realize that multiple areas of the US had started to treat this transaction logically although many countries went this direction years ago. Just think, within the next 50 years both pot and sex will be legal in SC. I predict we will be in the last 5 states to acknowledge the need for change but it will get here eventually.I was in NYC a while back, I found a place in the Diamond district. Slipped upstairs to an unmarked " massage" place. It was a little pricey. But oh what a good time! Nuru. Body slide. BBBJ and rimmed and 69 . Reverse Cowgirl. Doggy and misch fun times. Check that box! LOL.

SimpSince1991
12-17-21, 20:16
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/serial-killer-may-4-slayings-virginia-police-say-rcna9178

Met Victims on" dating sites". Then at hotel rooms. Wide range of ages of ,4 victims.

SimpSince1991
01-05-22, 06:34
https://www.foxcarolina.com/news/gcso-deputies-investigating-shooting-in-greenville-county-parking-lot/article_b90d2f1c-6dec-11ec-8fd7-8f89665ae9b1.html?block_id=1015380

Another reason to avoid. Dangerous overpriced poor quality.

InVinoVeritas
01-05-22, 14:38
That's too bad. It used to be a good place for a cheap quickie after work.


https://www.foxcarolina.com/news/gcso-deputies-investigating-shooting-in-greenville-county-parking-lot/article_b90d2f1c-6dec-11ec-8fd7-8f89665ae9b1.html?block_id=1015380

Another reason to avoid. Dangerous overpriced poor quality.

SimpSince1991
01-28-22, 14:42
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-man-70-dies-inside-26078822

Shelby01
02-01-22, 10:37
https://wyff4.com/article/body-found-behind-hotel-in-greenville-county/38943171

SimpSince1991
02-08-22, 07:48
https://www.wspa.com/news/state-news/dhec-offering-free-hiv-std-testing-feb-8/

SCTerabyte
02-08-22, 09:44
https://www.wyff4.com/article/georgia-live-size-doll-found-on-trail/39010951

DirkDirk
02-08-22, 12:22
https://www.wyff4.com/article/georgia-live-size-doll-found-on-trail/39010951My bad, she walked out on me after all the abuse. I named her Jill.

SCTerabyte
02-08-22, 20:04
My bad, she walked out on me after all the abuse. I named her Jill.Kind of looks like she needed to be hosed off one more time. I just thought maybe you took her to a mud wrestling contest and she lost so you left her there to walk home.

MassageGuyTom
02-15-22, 14:14
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-man-70-dies-inside-26078822The true meaning of Happy Ending.

TjMan35
02-25-22, 00:49
I agree. They haven't been worth a crap in years.


https://www.foxcarolina.com/news/gcso-deputies-investigating-shooting-in-greenville-county-parking-lot/article_b90d2f1c-6dec-11ec-8fd7-8f89665ae9b1.html?block_id=1015380

Another reason to avoid. Dangerous overpriced poor quality.

SimpSince1991
02-25-22, 16:06
https://www.foxcarolina.com/news/deputies-searching-for-missing-woman-in-greenville-county/article_7d7bb92a-9667-11ec-af99-37128ad841f5.html?block_id=994016

If you got her in the basement, let her go.

Zauriel
03-18-22, 08:51
So, everyone's favorite housecleaner did an actual paid porno. The video is 95 min long including the interview. She must have loved talking about herself for an hour! The site name is censored by me per forum rules.

SCTerabyte
03-18-22, 09:04
So, everyone's favorite housecleaner did an actual paid porno. The video is 95 min long including the interview. She must have loved talking about herself for an hour! The site name is censored by me per forum rules.Based on the photo I did a search and I think I found another one of her giving some dude a BJ in a bathroom while she was curling her hair but it did not show a clear face shot so not sure if it is her but it looks like it. As far as I can tell.

SC.

SCTerabyte
03-18-22, 09:29
Based on the photo I did a search and I think I found another one of her giving some dude a BJ in a bathroom while she was curling her hair but it did not show a clear face shot so not sure if it is her but it looks like it. As far as I can tell.

SC.It was not on the same website so it very well might not have been her but the hair looked the same. So who knows.

SC.

BlueCollar1188
03-18-22, 13:33
So, everyone's favorite housecleaner did an actual paid porno. The video is 95 min long including the interview. She must have loved talking about herself for an hour! The site name is censored by me per forum rules.She cleans house what's her contact info?

Maverick SC
03-18-22, 13:34
So, everyone's favorite housecleaner did an actual paid porno. The video is 95 min long including the interview. She must have loved talking about herself for an hour! The site name is censored by me per forum rules.Did she use to advertise on rub ratings? She looks like someone in ad I saw. I wanted to give her try but was never able to work something out.

Shelby01
03-18-22, 17:16
Did she use to advertise on rub ratings? She looks like someone in ad I saw. I wanted to give her try but was never able to work something out.That's her!

SCTerabyte
03-18-22, 17:22
Did she use to advertise on rub ratings? She looks like someone in ad I saw. I wanted to give her try but was never able to work something out.She was also on SA.

SC.

SCTerabyte
03-18-22, 17:23
She cleans house what's her contact info?She used to advertise house cleaning, event organizing and body rubs. Kind of doubt she does the first two anymore.

SC.

SCTerabyte
03-18-22, 17:23
Your mailbox is full. I tried sending you a couple other links I found.

SC.

Maverick SC
03-18-22, 17:29
She was also on SA..I don't have a SA account.

SCTerabyte
03-18-22, 18:19
I don't have a SA account.Not to worry, I have not seen her on there for a long long while. Once she started on R ratings she got off of SA. I guess she graduated to full on porn star, probably so she can get more money if the trend is correct.

SC.

Westside83
03-18-22, 18:23
So, everyone's favorite housecleaner did an actual paid porno. The video is 95 min long including the interview. She must have loved talking about herself for an hour! The site name is censored by me per forum rules.Zauriel,

You're mailbox is full. Can you PM the link as I wouldn't mind checking out the movie?

Member #6251
03-18-22, 18:43
I'm sure someone will leak the video out soon enough. I can't imagine how insane her husband will be when he finds out. He's supposed to be insanely jealous.


Not to worry, I have not seen her on there for a long long while. Once she started on R ratings she got off of SA. I guess she graduated to full on porn star, probably so she can get more money if the trend is correct.

SC.

Confused 1966
03-18-22, 19:31
I can't imagine how insane her husband will be when he finds out. He's supposed to be insanely jealous.Maybe that's her husband performing with her. LOL.

Member #6251
03-18-22, 20:24
Maybe that's her husband performing with her. LOL.Its definitely not.

SavageThing
03-18-22, 21:42
I can't find the site. Dm me?

SavageThing
03-19-22, 00:16
I can't find the site. Dm me?Never mind I found it. Reminds me of mompov except there's no pov.

DrPie
03-19-22, 05:08
Never mind I found it. Reminds me of mompov except there's no pov.I saw her about 4 weeks ago now and she was telling me she was considering this, I told her was dumb idea as would completely ruin her personal life, including with her kids. I know her husband 2nd hand (didn't realize till after dropped a few loads in her already) and we got to talking. I think she decided to stop seeing me when realized I work with the guy. She was telling me how much money they were offeri. Ng her, I doubt she'll go back to fucking any of us. She was a hot good little fuck, tight, and wet; good thing I took video of my own LOL.

SCTerabyte
03-19-22, 05:29
I'm sure someone will leak the video out soon enough. I can't imagine how insane her husband will be when he finds out. He's supposed to be insanely jealous.There are a couple out there on a free website. I did a search on of all places, google, for Blonde MILF Samantha and they showed up on the hub. Pretty sure that is her. Showed up on the first page of the search. Took all of 10 seconds to find it. Just an FYI.

SC.

Westside83
03-19-22, 12:04
There are a couple out there on a free website. I did a search on of all places, google, for Blonde MILF Samantha and they showed up on the hub. Pretty sure that is her. Showed up on the first page of the search. Took all of 10 seconds to find it. Just an FYI..Found the hair curling video fairly easily on hub where she does a BBBJ and another where she's taking BBFS. I've yet to find the latest video.

Confused 1966
03-19-22, 16:27
There are a couple out there on a free website. I did a search on of all places, google, for Blonde MILF Samantha and they showed up on the hub. Pretty sure that is her. Showed up on the first page of the search. Took all of 10 seconds to find it. Just an FYI..Okay so I google Blonde MILF Samantha at a hub and I come up with Samantha Saint, Samantha Jolie, Samantha Bank, Samantha Mack and a dozen more Samantha's. Which name is she using?

SCTerabyte
03-19-22, 16:47
Found the hair curling video fairly easily on hub where she does a BBBJ and another where she's taking BBFS. I've yet to find the latest video.Those two are the only ones there. The other one that was mentioned is on a pay site I think based on what Zauriel said.

SC.

SCTerabyte
03-19-22, 16:50
Okay so I google Blonde MILF Samantha at a hub and I come up with Samantha Saint, Samantha Jolie, Samantha Bank, Samantha Mack and a dozen more Samantha's. Which name is she using?Sent you the links.

SC.

JustMikey
03-19-22, 17:55
She was telling me how much money they were offering her, I doubt she'll go back to fucking any of us. She will be back. Do you have any idea how many thousands of women are shooting porn? She will get a good paycheck for her first shoot because she's something new. Bur after about three or four shoots, the buzz is gone and she will have to do one of two two things. Either go back to her old life, or, offer up something more on her next shoot. Anal at first, then DP, then a gangbang with four or five black guys swinging foot long dicks. It will be interesting to see how long she lasts and which way she goes. I'm guessing four or five videos full of vanilla sex then back to her previous life. I actually hope that happens, as the other route is a tough one without a happy ending.

JpBaretta
03-19-22, 19:27
Sent you the links.

SC.Could you send me the links?

Maverick SC
03-19-22, 21:00
Sent you the links.

SC.I got the same results. Spent 39 minutes searching with no luck.

Monger Dude
03-20-22, 12:59
I saw her about 4 weeks ago now and she was telling me she was considering this, I told her was dumb idea as would completely ruin her personal life, including with her kids. I know her husband 2nd hand (didn't realize till after dropped a few loads in her already) and we got to talking. I think she decided to stop seeing me when realized I work with the guy. She was telling me how much money they were offeri. Ng her, I doubt she'll go back to fucking any of us. She was a hot good little fuck, tight, and wet; good thing I took video of my own LOL.She was considering doing "soft" porn when I saw her more than 2 years ago. She loves sex and is a total exhibitionist.

I have quite the video library myself.

LakeLife
03-21-22, 07:39
I got the same results. Spent 39 minutes searching with no luck.I can't find it either. Someone care to share the links?

Shelby01
03-21-22, 08:45
Those two are the only ones there. The other one that was mentioned is on a pay site I think based on what Zauriel said.

SC.That's correct. I just found that one. Can you send me the other links?

SCTerabyte
03-21-22, 15:14
They are no longer on the website. I guess they got pulled down or something but the two links I had do not work anymore. Just an FYI. I also did a search and came up empty.

SC.

Shelby01
03-21-22, 16:33
They are no longer on the website. I guess they got pulled down or something but the two links I had do not work anymore. Just an FYI. I also did a search and came up empty..Easy come easy go! Thanks for checking SC!

SavageThing
03-21-22, 23:15
She was doing it behind her husbands back. Obviously someone found out and told her and him.

LuvOral
03-22-22, 07:30
They are no longer on the website. I guess they got pulled down or something but the two links I had do not work anymore. Just an FYI. I also did a search and came up empty.

SC.Search for Matt Hardy on Pornhub. The 2 most recent vids are with her.

Zauriel
03-22-22, 09:07
Right right! They are still there. Also you should download them. .


Search for Matt Hardy on Pornhub. The 2 most recent vids are with her.

SCTerabyte
03-22-22, 09:23
Search for Matt Hardy on Pornhub. The 2 most recent vids are with her.I was trying to remember his name and drew a blank.

SC.

Shelby01
03-22-22, 11:21
Right right! They are still there. Also you should download them..He has no videos listed. What the hell are you guys looking at?

Maverick SC
03-22-22, 14:17
I was trying to remember his name and drew a blank..I'm sure that ship has sailed, but I wish I could have had a chance to take her for a test drive.

LuvOral
03-22-22, 19:05
He has no videos listed. What the hell are you guys looking at?https://www.pornhub.com/model/matt-hardy

Metloaf
03-22-22, 19:37
https://www.pornhub.com/model/matt-hardyWhere's some on her previous ads. I remember a myrtle beach MILF name Samantha. No husband I believe.

https://xraters.com/escorts-review/samantha-hunter/9193536139

Shelby01
03-23-22, 09:29
Where's some on her previous ads. I remember a myrtle beach MILF name Samantha. No husband I believe.

https://xraters.com/escorts-review/samantha-hunter/9193536139Checked out the link, that's not her. She used to post on rubratings before they ran into a hacking issue.

Shelby01
03-23-22, 09:31
I'm sure that ship has sailed, but I wish I could have had a chance to take her for a test drive.Test drive. Yeah you would've loved the scenery!

CarolinaBoy33
03-23-22, 19:46
Female shot dead at Baymont Hotel.

Anderson, no name yet.

Maverick SC
03-23-22, 21:09
Test drive. Yeah you would've loved the scenery!Here is an old ad with a several pics.

https://rubmd.com/greenville-sc/17027df0-c5af-4a2a-bba1-6b025b757cd3

Shelby01
03-24-22, 09:32
Female shot dead at Baymont Hotel.

Anderson, no name yet.Saw that. First thing I thought was which one of you mongers did it!

LovesMuffins
03-25-22, 07:31
More likely her dealer or pimp.


Saw that. First thing I thought was which one of you mongers did it!

SimpSince1991
03-25-22, 09:06
Most local news stations pronounced her dead, then pulled it back, they have yet to identify her. She is still alive, thankfully (.

Realdirtybird
03-25-22, 09:27
Most local news stations pronounced her dead, then pulled it back, they have yet to identify her. She is still alive, thankfully (.Seen that redaction myself as well. Still wondering if it's anyone us mongers may know. Perhaps Twiggy or Abbi.

Ledeas
03-25-22, 11:40
Seen that redaction myself as well. Still wondering if it's anyone us mongers may know. Perhaps Twiggy or Abbi.She is safe and sound.

SCTerabyte
03-29-22, 05:32
https://www.wspa.com/news/local-news/man-charged-in-anderson-co-fatal-motel-shooting/

Girls name was Kayla.

SC.

SCTerabyte
03-29-22, 05:34
https://www.wyff4.com/article/deadly-shooting-motel-anderson-1648499272/39565036

SC.

LovesMuffins
03-29-22, 15:18
Apparently she had a previous arrest.

https://mugshots.com/US-States/South-Carolina/Anderson-County-SC/Kayla-Jo-Hamby.182830190.html

SimpSince1991
03-29-22, 15:41
Her face screams meth, but she was supposedly married and had kids at the hotel but why was she hanging with dude with no gun safety skills. Does anyone have actual experience that she was a provider? Or just a Belton princess?

Shelby01
03-30-22, 10:16
Apparently she had a previous arrest.

https://mugshots.com/US-States/South-Carolina/Anderson-County-SC/Kayla-Jo-Hamby.182830190.htmlAnimal cruelty. Glad she's dead.

Ebinsc
04-07-22, 22:12
https://www.wyff4.com/article/bank-robbery-suspect-arrested-at-strip-club/39662300

SimpSince1991
04-08-22, 10:42
https://www.foxcarolina.com/2022/04/06/police-looking-bank-robber-greenwood/

I would have went to exit 66 off 85 or Atlanta!

Realdirtybird
04-08-22, 12:34
https://www.foxcarolina.com/2022/04/06/police-looking-bank-robber-greenwood/

I would have went to exit 66 off 85 or Atlanta!I agree. But Man, one of them girls at the club must have promised him one helleva VIP dance if he came up with the money. Lmao.

Realdirtybird
04-11-22, 20:56
Don't know this may be of use to but ya might want to avoid doing this.

https://www.foxcarolina.com/2022/04/11/sheriff-says-greenville-co-park-being-used-illegal-sexual-activity/

DrPie
04-13-22, 21:44
Highly relevant: https://www.wyff4.com/article/fbi-warns-of-sextortion-schemes-south-carolina/39713617.

Doesn't matter if know the girl already or not, never ever send a picture of your face. Could easily be used for blackmail purposes especially with all the facial recognition software now. Or fall into the hands of our favorite uncle for cataloguing.

You have be a plain moron to send a face picture; these girls asking for them for "their" security they looking for and easy out and scam. They can easily gauge who you are with a phone / video call or Snapchat verification where they can't screenshot.

JohnnyCarsin
04-14-22, 11:57
Highly relevant: https://www.wyff4.com/article/fbi-warns-of-sextortion-schemes-south-carolina/39713617.

Doesn't matter if know the girl already or not, never ever send a picture of your face. Could easily be used for blackmail purposes especially with all the facial recognition software now. Or fall into the hands of our favorite uncle for cataloguing.

You have be a plain moron to send a face picture; these girls asking for them for "their" security they looking for and easy out and scam. They can easily gauge who you are with a phone / video call or Snapchat verification where they can't screenshot.All that video screening you mentioned can easily be circumvented with a second phone taking a picture and / or video of the conversation taking place. LOL.

Old tech defeats hitech any day.

If they won't take the chance to meet you, then don't take the chance to meet them.

DrPie
04-14-22, 18:05
All that video screening you mentioned can easily be circumvented with a second phone taking a picture and / or video of the conversation taking place. LOL.

Old tech defeats hitech any day.

If they won't take the chance to meet you, then don't take the chance to meet them.Yeah but you'll realize that's the case if video of video is occurring and just avoid. Like you said if they won't take a chance you don't take a chance. I have found old tech like a good ole fashion phone call is easily a good way to gage if someone going to try and pull something stupid on you by reading their voice inflection, how they speak, or if someone else is there with them.

SimpSince1991
04-15-22, 09:54
A photo doesn't provide safety, it provides evidence. Banks get robbed hourly and they have tons of cameras. A photo doesn't protect them, but does help in prosecution. A phone call is a critical part of my screening process. Listening carefully for background noises.

SimpSince1991
05-27-22, 07:49
https://dnyuz.com/2022/05/26/a-face-search-engine-anyone-can-use-is-alarmingly-accurate/

MtnPanda
05-27-22, 10:15
https://dnyuz.com/2022/05/26/a-face-search-engine-anyone-can-use-is-alarmingly-accurate/Well damn.

TourMud1989
05-27-22, 17:26
Surely this just scratches the surface of capabilities to come! Think about it. Voice search? Email address associated with any website? The internet is one huge catalog getting bigger by the second.

JV.


Well damn.

Ebinsc
05-28-22, 12:00
Just curious this morning. No idea if this is all connected but I'd be surprised if they're not.

https://www.wyff4.com/article/woman-calls-911-and-reports-being-shot-deputies-say/40123295

https://twitter.com/nathanielcary/status/677184146175893504 <-- from 2015.

https://greenville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/bbw-throatgoat-wit-that-pressu/262929494232

LoveTheBeaver
05-28-22, 23:48
Just curious this morning. No idea if this is all connected but I'd be surprised if they're not.

https://www.wyff4.com/article/woman-calls-911-and-reports-being-shot-deputies-say/40123295

https://twitter.com/nathanielcary/status/677184146175893504 <-- from 2015.

https://greenville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/bbw-throatgoat-wit-that-pressu/262929494232Comparing the tattoos on the right arm from both the Twitter link and the StG pics I'd say they are two different people. I could be wrong.

LtB.

Ebinsc
05-29-22, 01:12
Comparing the tattoos on the right arm from both the Twitter link and the StG pics I'd say they are two different people. I could be wrong.

LtB.Good eye but who knows what she might have had done in six years. Sometimes pics get reversed too like in her first STG one. We'll know more if and when her ad gets a newer date. RIP to whomever it was that was killed.

TourMud1989
05-29-22, 13:05
The photo with the baby was 2015? She looks how old? She died at what age? No match here.


Comparing the tattoos on the right arm from both the Twitter link and the StG pics I'd say they are two different people. I could be wrong.

LtB.

Ebinsc
05-29-22, 15:53
The photo with the baby was 2015? She looks how old? She died at what age? No match here.In December 2015 she was 17. Add six years and now she's 23. Too many of the facts line up to include the location in her STG ad, red hair, body type and just having tats back when she was 17. A judicial search shows she was born in 1998 and she had had plenty of encounters with LE, one of which was for. Yep, that (Dec 2017). I'd bet money it's her and I don't bet. She lived a rough life and I hope she's at peace now.

https://wlos.com/news/local/residents-left-homeless-after-upstate-motel-condemned

Redwood
05-29-22, 19:45
Does anyone have any information on Samantha from Anderson. Used to stay off of exit 19 and provided great "dom" sessions. Seems to have disappeared. If you don't want to reply in the forum PM me. Thanks.

Maverick SC
05-29-22, 21:38
In December 2015 she was 17. Add six years and now she's 23. Too many of the facts line up to include the location in her STG ad, red hair, body type and just having tats back when she was 17. A judicial search shows she was born in 1998 and she had had plenty of encounters with LE, one of which was for. Yep, that (Dec 2017). I'd bet money it's her and I don't bet. She lived a rough life and I hope she's at peace now.

https://wlos.com/news/local/residents-left-homeless-after-upstate-motel-condemnedIf this truly is her, I hope she is at peace. This hobby / business is very risky.

SimpSince1991
06-01-22, 16:52
https://www.foxnews.com/us/south-carolina-undercover-sex-sting-11-men-arrested. it took 16 law enforcement agencies to make 11 arrests? While I 100& support frying anyone who messes with kids. But 16 agencies seem a bit excessive. Too many cooks ruin the soup!

Shelby01
06-02-22, 09:04
https://www.foxnews.com/us/south-carolina-undercover-sex-sting-11-men-arrested. it took 16 law enforcement agencies to make 11 arrests? While I 100& support frying anyone who messes with kids. But 16 agencies seem a bit excessive. Too many cooks ruin the soup!I had the exact same thoughts. Only one missing was Barney Fife.

Realdirtybird
06-03-22, 18:42
If this truly is her, I hope she is at peace. This hobby / business is very risky.A little update on this story. I guess that's a good reason that most providers don't like to see younger men.

https://www.wyff4.com/article/man-arrested-charged-death-pregnant-woman-motel/40180321

Monger Dude
06-07-22, 17:11
Excellent watch.

https://youtu.be/ItUUmukrKM0

Hobby Cat 55
06-08-22, 14:06
Excellent watch.

https://youtu.be/ItUUmukrKM0This one is out of Charlotte. Any know her or remember her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r2Nfel8-sE.

SimpSince1991
06-09-22, 10:00
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10897967/Woman-claims-got-STD-ex-awarded-5-2-million-insurance-company.html

TourMud1989
06-09-22, 17:48
What kind of low life fucks in a Hyundai? Uh, just nauseating! At least move into a Toyota Rav4! Seriously show some class!

Wait seriously, I'll ask my insurance agent to make sure I have an "STD" clause! And a hung toenail just in case.

JV.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10897967/Woman-claims-got-STD-ex-awarded-5-2-million-insurance-company.html

Ledeas
06-13-22, 01:24
https://www.independentmail.com/story/news/local/2022/06/08/cops-tv-show-feature-anderson-county-sc-sheriffs-office/7559056001/

Not sure this is the exposure anyone needs.

Daman3568
06-13-22, 09:15
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/s-threesome-erupts-fight-best-paid-escort-article-1.2029078

Zauriel
06-14-22, 07:39
This one was arrested yesterday for trafficking a minor. If she ever sees the light of day, I would still avoid due to the likelihood of her working with LEO for a deal.

https://greenville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/puerto-rican-indian-italian-4/082663878868

Shelby01
06-14-22, 09:31
This one was arrested yesterday for trafficking a minor. If she ever sees the light of day, I would still avoid due to the likelihood of her working with LEO for a deal.

https://greenville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/puerto-rican-indian-italian-4/082663878868Wow thanks for that intel! I asked about her few days ago.

TimBow52
06-14-22, 11:32
This one was arrested yesterday for trafficking a minor. If she ever sees the light of day, I would still avoid due to the likelihood of her working with LEO for a deal.

https://greenville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/puerto-rican-indian-italian-4/082663878868Maybe Boss Lady can show her the ropes. LOL.

Maverick SC
06-14-22, 15:39
Maybe Boss Lady can show her the ropes. LOL.I messaged her about a week ago and never got a response.

SamBang
06-27-22, 18:52
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SamBang
06-28-22, 16:20
Not fake to add that I have out on another site is really me tomorrow is my only day my contact information is there do you want to set up an appointment then Do so. If you want to know if I'm real or not come find out for yourself if you want to know what's going on in my life where I've been what I'm doing then come find out for yourself so you'll have to check out rub MD.

SimpSince1991
07-10-22, 12:28
https://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/local/crime/article263291823.html.

Doesn't sound like a fun night.

Murphy69
07-10-22, 12:52
https://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/local/crime/article263291823.html.

Doesn't sound like a fun night.Article appears to be gone now unfortunately. What was the story?

Monger Dude
07-10-22, 12:57
Article appears to be gone now unfortunately. What was the story?https://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/local/crime/article263291823.html

Ebinsc
07-10-22, 13:12
Article appears to be gone now unfortunately. What was the story?https://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/local/crime/article263291823.html

SimpSince1991
08-02-22, 21:39
https://www.wspa.com/news/local-news/highway-patrol-increasing-presence-in-spartanburg-co-this-week/

Zauriel
08-03-22, 10:35
My primary use for this site is safety. I want to know if the girl I want to see is safe and worth the money. That's what I take and it's what I give. I saw this post from Sexy Lexi today. I have seen her several times and reviewed her once or twice. I like her. And liked her. However last week I saw that she was arrested for a felony. I was surprised by the particular charge.

Now, it seems unlikely that she is free and posting again. But it is not impossible. My aim is to offer information. I haven't contacted her. So I haven't discussed it with her. I don't plan to. But I am offering the info in case you were planning to see her. Her performance was terrific when I last visited with her 4-5 years ago. My intent is not libel. I don't want to prevent anyone from seeing her if she is indeed safe. I am simply giving you, the consumer, information by which you can use to make your own decision. Like I said. I liked her. She is a sexy woman! I don't want to harm her. I only want the best for her. But do your due diligence.

https://greenville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/PIC-REALSexy-Lexi/651402017772

Big Daddy Dog
08-03-22, 10:50
My primary use for this site is safety. I want to know if the girl I want to see is safe and worth the money. That's what I take and it's what I give. I saw this post from Sexy Lexi today. I have seen her several times and reviewed her once or twice. I like her. And liked her. However last week I saw that she was arrested for a felony. I was surprised by the particular charge.

Now, it seems unlikely that she is free and posting again. But it is not impossible. My aim is to offer information. I haven't contacted her. So I haven't discussed it with her. I don't plan to. But I am offering the info in case you were planning to see her. Her performance was terrific when I last visited with her 4-5 years ago. My intent is not libel. I don't want to prevent anyone from seeing her if she is indeed safe. I am simply giving you, the consumer, information by which you can use to make your own decision. Like I said. I liked her. She is a sexy woman! I don't want to harm her. I only want the best for her. But do your due diligence.

https://greenville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/PIC-REALSexy-Lexi/651402017772Good looking out!

SimpSince1991
10-06-22, 16:20
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11288529/Colorado-woman-arrested-giving-Tinder-date-oral-sex-tying-ordering-food.html

SimpSince1991
10-12-22, 18:32
https://www.wspa.com/news/local-news/2-accused-of-prostitution-inside-upstate-massage-studio/

JMAbacus
10-13-22, 11:12
https://www.wspa.com/news/local-news/2-accused-of-prostitution-inside-upstate-massage-studio/I was waiting for your post a couple weeks back Simp. You usually report these busts almost as soon as they are happening. Maybe it's becoming a non story with the general public and the police are not that excited to report it. I would like to think that's the case. I had to scan through the arrest records for Anderson County for the prior 30 days to locate these dangerous perps. The number of total arrests is shockingly high. Did not recognize a single person in the mugshots. It's not the same group of folks you see at the Texas Roadhouse nor J Peters or Outback.

SimpSince1991
12-05-22, 14:26
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/pr/greenwood-man-greenville-woman-indicted-10-counts-sex-trafficking-conspiracy-and-witness

SimpSince1991
02-12-23, 12:17
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-politician-suggests-fix-states-brazen-prostitution-legalize-it

WillieD
02-12-23, 12:44
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-politician-suggests-fix-states-brazen-prostitution-legalize-itWithout regulation, zoning and such - like that found in Hannover Germany for instance - this latest initiative in SF will just be a free-for-all like the rest of that screwed up once beautiful city has now become. These zero's "running" that town and area, have no clue what they are doing. Wandering nymphs. I mean, the guy backing this up is named Wiener. Says it all. California state Sen. Scott Wiener. (comedy in there, somewhere... ) Well?
Chiefs or Eagles?

FiveOfSix
02-12-23, 13:52
Without regulation, zoning and such - like that found in Hannover Germany for instance - this latest initiative in SF will just be a free-for-all like the rest of that screwed up once beautiful city has now become. These zero's "running" that town and area, have no clue what they are doing. Wandering nymphs. I mean, the guy backing this up is named Wiener. Says it all. California state Sen. Scott Wiener. (comedy in there, somewhere... ) Well?
Chiefs or Eagles?Eagles big.

FiveOfSix
02-12-23, 13:54
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-politician-suggests-fix-states-brazen-prostitution-legalize-itBut we're in the buckle of The Bible Belt. If it ever happens we'll be the last, like pot laws and NC was for a lottery.

Monger Dude
02-13-23, 06:48
Without regulation, zoning and such - like that found in Hannover Germany for instance - this latest initiative in SF will just be a free-for-all like the rest of that screwed up once beautiful city has now become. These zero's "running" that town and area, have no clue what they are doing. Wandering nymphs. I mean, the guy backing this up is named Wiener. Says it all. California state Sen. Scott Wiener. (comedy in there, somewhere... ) Well? Chiefs or Eagles?Not long ago, Wiener boy introduced a bill that decriminalizes to a misdemeanor anyone who knowingly / intentionally gives someone HIV. It actually passed the City Council. I'm not making this up.

SF is now a complete sh*thole.

SimpSince1991
04-01-23, 12:00
https://wchstv.com/news/local/charleston-catholic-high-school-teacher-suspended-after-prostitution-investigation. Never send a photo. Never talk to the police. I only do outcall and meet in public place. Without the photo this guy would be just a face in the crowd. Don't make it easy to get caught!

Outlaw44
04-01-23, 12:14
https://wchstv.com/news/local/charleston-catholic-high-school-teacher-suspended-after-prostitution-investigation. Never send a photo. Never talk to the police. I only do outcall and meet in public place. Without the photo this guy would be just a face in the crowd. Don't make it easy to get caught!That's pretty much exactly why I will not send a picture.

AftNoonDelight
04-01-23, 18:36
https://wchstv.com/news/local/charleston-catholic-high-school-teacher-suspended-after-prostitution-investigation. Never send a photo. Never talk to the police. I only do outcall and meet in public place. Without the photo this guy would be just a face in the crowd. Don't make it easy to get caught!How is outcall any safer?

SimpSince1991
04-01-23, 21:07
Why I think outcall is significantly safer for monger. Police operations are concerned with safety and numbers. If they set up a incall at at room x at the local motel, if you knock on door you are screwed. Most cities counties have ordinances written that as soon as you step on property you are done. Forget the I didn't offer money excuse. It's not cost effective to chase or overly safe to chase outcalls all over. Plus it's a jurisdiction issue. If Greenville city police is trying to run a sting, if you ask to meet the girl in travelers rest or Taylors it's out of their jurisdiction. My preferred method is to meet a established provider in a public place (goodwill quick trip Ingles) . Goodwill is great example, I get there 15 before meeting time, go in to store position myself so I can monitor door. . If girl shows up looking ruff I can bail. If she shows up with pimp in tow I can bounce. The girl has no idea who I am until I choose to reveal myself. I take every caution I can to be safe from arrest. Once we make contact we go to a room where I have the advantage, I know no one's hiding in shower. Almost exclusively every police hobby arrest is John goes to a location the police choose, hotel room air B and b. I absolutely under no circumstances would send a photo. Most police arrests are low hanging fruit, the easy ones. When they raid massage places, they significantly only can make charges against the employees, very very few customers get busted (unless your the owner of the new England Patriots) . Same with strip clubs, unless they are in the private room. With you, the cops can speculate, but they can't prove anything. Do I miss out on a lot fun adventures absolutely. But I would rather be cautious. It's easy to see a girl working 24) 7 at the red roof, but the longer she stays there she's attracting attention of hotel management, the people who live in the room next door, a customer she's made mad or a drug dealer. I also am not a prime time player, I don't play Thursday till Sunday, if the coppers are wanting numbers they know when it's busy, my play time is a Tuesday at 1030 am, not Friday at midnight. I know I am paranoid, stay safe.

Jogglish
04-02-23, 19:12
https://wchstv.com/news/local/charleston-catholic-high-school-teacher-suspended-after-prostitution-investigation. Never send a photo. Never talk to the police. I only do outcall and meet in public place. Without the photo this guy would be just a face in the crowd. Don't make it easy to get caught!The article doesn't say anything about the police identifying him with a photo. He and the person he was texting with had to set up some way to find each other, so I'm sure he would still be screwed even if he didn't send a photo.

SimpSince1991
04-04-23, 04:06
"officers said they received a text from redacted who also provided a photo of himself and arrangements were made to meet on Kanawha Boulevard East. ". I do not reveal myself until the very last second.

And only after I see the girl I want in the flesh at the location. I am not sure the legalities, but I am not sure what, if anything would prevent the Police from using random photos of escorts they find on the internet. Hell with all the advances in artificial intelligence, the police might generate a photo of a girl that doesn't exist as bait. I always use a fake name, keep my cell on silent so if the cops call it while at location it does not Ring, , too prevent giving them reasonable suspicion to stop me. I usually only meet at very high foot traffic areas, quick trip, Wal-Mart, cvs during day. . if you to meet at a waffle house at 3 am, it's not hard to stick out and minium get some face time with uncle. In the past I have done incalls at 1 star hotels, Mobile homes off the beaten path at midnight with out state plates (that's a red flag) and picked up a chick at a cabin deep in the woods on a very narrow dirt path. Looking back on these adventures, I realize I was completely vulnerable to getting caught, I had no even slightly plausible reason to be where I was. The only place I feel slightly less concerned about uncle, currently, is Asheville, the police department has been gutted because the citizens went woke, there was a mass exit of officers and they per the news, can't hire for shit. And with the number of shootings in the city, picking off dudes mongering isn't a priority. Remain vigilant.

SimpSince1991
06-06-23, 13:00
https://www.foxcarolina.com/2023/06/06/violence-drug-addiction-used-force-women-into-sex-trafficking-sc/

HomerSimpson69
06-06-23, 17:11
https://www.foxcarolina.com/2023/06/06/violence-drug-addiction-used-force-women-into-sex-trafficking-sc/Sounds like a certified POS. I am sure he will enjoy his time being traded around for a "carton of smokes"! Payback and karma is a b&*tch.

LoveTheBeaver
06-07-23, 08:39
https://www.foxcarolina.com/2023/06/06/violence-drug-addiction-used-force-women-into-sex-trafficking-sc/Do you suppose this guy had any pictures saved from "Johns" who contacted him thinking he was a provider but felt safe sending a photo as they were using an alias and calling from a throw-away phone? You know darn well that Uncle LEO went through this guy's phone with a fine tooth comb and saved the information for posterity.

I highly advise not sending your photo to anyone you do not know.

LtB.

JMAbacus
06-07-23, 11:26
https://www.foxcarolina.com/2023/06/06/violence-drug-addiction-used-force-women-into-sex-trafficking-sc/Hope he gets his life sentence. I would think twice before entering that line of work but based on the number of pimps it does not seem to be a deterrent.

BlackManWorkin
06-07-23, 16:02
HT is indeed a big problem but less probable for mongers. Most providers aren't under the thumb of HT.

The ones that are sort of obvious, but the law blankets prosti and HT to increase arrests and possible conviction rates. Nonetheless, a handler or pimp is usually bad news for customer and provider. Some of these guys are pure evil.

When it comes to outcalls; objectively, it's safer for the monger. You can control the environment and scope a situation more closely.

While I prefer incalls, I understand the risk. I'm going into an area I may or may not know. To negate my anxiety, I shop for providers that have a history of posting or has reviews. Anything that's TGTBT, I opt out. If it's a questionable neighborhood or hotel, I don't bother going.

If I had the budget for outcalls, I would do that. It's cheaper for the provider and safer for me. For now, I'll have to carefully gauge the provider.

I absolutely agree that you shouldn't send pics to any provider you haven't seen. Actually, I recommend that you don't send photos at all. If you need to verify, use a pseudonym email or alias on snapchat.

Don't be a fool. If she's not going to tell you her real name or show her face, you shouldn't either. It's better to save your money than to get blackmailed or slandered.

CarolinaBoy33
06-30-23, 16:56
Charleston SC.

CPD then received another anonymous tip regarding prostitution activity at the Lucky Spa on Savannah Highway and found that illicit services were also being offered and sold at that business.

The owner of Lucky Spa, 41-year-old Deleted by Admin of West Ashley, was arrested on June 26 and charged with one count of prostitution for operating a brothel.

"An investigative commitment such as this is a powerful example of how capable our detectives are at completing complicated investigations," CPD Captain Andre Jenkins said. "It is also an example of how valuable Crime Stoppers tips and law enforcement partnerships are to stopping nefarious activity in our community.

Both owners were booked into the Al Cannon Detention Center.

SimpSince1991
07-08-23, 11:57
https://www.foxcarolina.com/2023/07/07/attorney-general-alan-wilson-announces-statewide-human-trafficking-prevention-education-initiative/

Daman3568
07-11-23, 00:21
Totally agree. I use a TracFone and have an alias Snapchat. I ask them for a quick video verification before meeting and if they refuse then it's a no go for me.


HT is indeed a big problem but less probable for mongers. Most providers aren't under the thumb of HT.

The ones that are sort of obvious, but the law blankets prosti and HT to increase arrests and possible conviction rates. Nonetheless, a handler or pimp is usually bad news for customer and provider. Some of these guys are pure evil.

When it comes to outcalls; objectively, it's safer for the monger. You can control the environment and scope a situation more closely.

While I prefer incalls, I understand the risk. I'm going into an area I may or may not know. To negate my anxiety, I shop for providers that have a history of posting or has reviews. Anything that's TGTBT, I opt out. If it's a questionable neighborhood or hotel, I don't bother going.

If I had the budget for outcalls, I would do that. It's cheaper for the provider and safer for me. For now, I'll have to carefully gauge the provider.

I absolutely agree that you shouldn't send pics to any provider you haven't seen. Actually, I recommend that you don't send photos at all. If you need to verify, use a pseudonym email or alias on snapchat.

Don't be a fool. If she's not going to tell you her real name or show her face, you shouldn't either. It's better to save your money than to get blackmailed or slandered.