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Kyhunter2
06-23-13, 16:50
Does anyone know if Erica or Leanna are still stripping or have contact info for them

Nfamous
09-10-14, 18:54
This is what I call dedication. Maybe I should move to Cleveland.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/lauren-block-dies-after-lap-dance_n_2451447.html

ColdFusion2500
09-11-14, 14:21
This is what I call dedication. Maybe I should move to Cleveland.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/lauren-block-dies-after-lap-dance_n_2451447.htmlThe girl was pushed, according to local media 2 males fled the scene seconds after the incident and police have not yet found them.

Cheech1
11-11-14, 15:28
Willoughby popped a Tranny and a girl in a sting in Willoughby, looks like at one of the motels at 91 and I90. Appears to be from BP, but doesn't specify in the report in the News Herald. 11/11/2014.

Watch your 6.

Cheech.

MrSmith1969
11-11-14, 16:22
Willoughby popped a Tranny and a girl in a sting in Willoughby, looks like at one of the motels at 91 and I90. Appears to be from BP, but doesn't specify in the report in the News Herald. 11/11/2014.

Watch your 6.

Cheech.Thankfully it said which was which, I thought they were both dudes!

Francis123
11-11-14, 21:09
Does anyone know if Erica or Leanna are still stripping or have contact info for themThey're easy to find on Facebook. I don't think we're allowed to post full names but if you do a Google search for the Scene Magazine article about them (search "leanna stripper arrested") you will be able to find them easy enough. I don't know if they still work at strip clubs.

DeskJockey
06-18-15, 17:09
A resident began receiving text messages and phone calls at 1 pm June 12 from more than 25 individuals whom she did not know. They were inquiring about an ad for sex.

One of them sent her a screen shot of a Craigslist advertisement that showed her photo, age, city and phone number. The ad proposed she was a prostitute. She also received six photo-sharing messages from unknown people, one who included a photo of a man's private part. She decided not to open the other messages.

The victim told police she never used Craigslist. As she was reporting the incidents to police, an officer noted her phone received several more texts and calls about the ad.

The victim planned to change her phone number and report this to the online classified service to remove any information about her from its website.

Ebauche
11-16-15, 20:47
So, whoremonger Charlie Sheen is HIV+.

Give anyone else pause?

LowRider69
11-17-15, 15:02
So, whoremonger Charlie Sheen is HIV+.

Give anyone else pause?No because I read TS prostitutes were on his menu. Ik.

HornyTwist
11-17-15, 16:42
So, whoremonger Charlie Sheen is HIV+.

Give anyone else pause?Yeah, it did, probably to all those who are following in his hedonistic footsteps.

And were attached to 2 and half men.

JadeProvider
01-17-16, 17:57
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DogSun
02-10-16, 13:47
http://m.cleveland19.com/19actionnews/db_330498/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=XoMM8u0c

Ebauche
02-10-16, 14:25
http://m.cleveland19.com/19actionnews/db_330498/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=XoMM8u0cDayum. Close the entire hotel? Must have quite a rap sheet to close an entire biz as a "nuisance. " Not that I'm surprised.

BudBowl2001
02-10-16, 20:04
I used to bang alot of married chicks there after the 100th bomb group festivities. And the bikini bartenders are now out of work.


Dayum. Close the entire hotel? Must have quite a rap sheet to close an entire biz as a "nuisance. " Not that I'm surprised.

CTownRJ
02-13-16, 10:27
As many of you predicted, there will be a lot more crackdowns in the streets, BP, and other sites as we approach July and the RNC. Be careful out there.

http://www.cleveland.com/rnc-2016/index.ssf/2016/02/with_republican_national_conve.html

Ebauche
02-14-16, 02:02
This happens when you look up the Brook Park property on the Travelodge website.

Hookedonpun
02-14-16, 02:44
This happens when you look up the Brook Park property on the Travelodge website.You Can say that again.

Chongo
02-14-16, 09:17
I used to bang alot of married chicks there after the 100th bomb group festivities. And the bikini bartenders are now out of work.This place was perfect for banging strippers from the brookpark clubs. I Spend many an evening there during the mid 90's to early 00's, back when it was a Days Inn. They had many side entrances to get to rooms without using the lobby. Never had any issues back then, but I never stayed more than a couple hours. Reading about this closing brought back a lot of memories of the pinkys and model tease brookpark glory days.

Fannima30
02-14-16, 13:35
Wonder if all those people will move a little to the east. Forget the name of the hotel at the moment but it's the highrise with a bar in it as well. Across the street from the Infiniti dealership. That place seems pretty rough as well.

ColdFusion2500
02-14-16, 18:46
Wonder if all those people will move a little to the east. Forget the name of the hotel at the moment but it's the highrise with a bar in it as well. Across the street from the Infiniti dealership. That place seems pretty rough as well.That hotel will not allow you to be on property with professional girl. They were restricting people to show ids just to get on elevator to visit someone. That was a year and a half ago when I had family stay there. On my way out I saw a guy arguing with front desk manger about allowing what looked like a pro up to his room.

Ebauche
02-14-16, 21:35
That hotel will not allow you to be on property with professional girl. They were restricting people to show ids just to get on elevator to visit someone. That was a year and a half ago when I had family stay there. On my way out I saw a guy arguing with front desk manger about allowing what looked like a pro up to his room.I've seen several girls there over the past year. They had rooms and were running I calls.

Rafter17
02-14-16, 21:57
That hotel will not allow you to be on property with professional girl. They were restricting people to show ids just to get on elevator to visit someone. That was a year and a half ago when I had family stay there. On my way out I saw a guy arguing with front desk manger about allowing what looked like a pro up to his room.


I've seen several girls there over the past year. They had rooms and were running I calls.I've seen girls there before also, but haven't been there since last fall. Maybe the rules have changed and that's why a lot of the girls moved west.

OhMyGoodness
02-21-16, 11:45
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/oh-cuyahoga/man-shot-in-lido-lounge-parking-lot-after-argument-about-strip-clubs

ColdFusion2500
02-21-16, 11:58
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/oh-cuyahoga/man-shot-in-lido-lounge-parking-lot-after-argument-about-strip-clubsIf they were aurguing about the shoes.

ManFourWoman
02-21-16, 12:03
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/oh-cuyahoga/man-shot-in-lido-lounge-parking-lot-after-argument-about-strip-clubsI saw that & DOH posting the link never crossed my mind UGH.

Not that the shooter would show up there again but peeps should know & be aware to have fun and don't cause any friction.

BudBowl2001
03-05-16, 21:33
http://www.cleveland.com/chagrin-valley/index.ssf/2016/03/undercover_prostitution_sting.html

Miss Joy
03-20-16, 17:18
That hotel will not allow you to be on property with professional girl. They were restricting people to show ids just to get on elevator to visit someone. That was a year and a half ago when I had family stay there. On my way out I saw a guy arguing with front desk manger about allowing what looked like a pro up to his room.That hotel is very bad area a lot drugs there.

CTownRJ
04-02-16, 14:38
Shit like this seems to happen a lot in Akron. Apparently this incident occurred at 4:30 pm. Be careful out there.

http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2016/03/akron_woman_brother_lure_man_t.html

Monaco GP
04-03-16, 13:08
Shit like this seems to happen a lot in Akron. Apparently this incident occurred at 4:30 pm. Be careful out there.

http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2016/03/akron_woman_brother_lure_man_t.htmlA lot of guys don't care what the girls do with the money. That's being foolish because if they're junkies this kind of shit is bound to happen. She's a f'ing loser anmimal cruelty and all and she's surrounded by f'ing losers as the tatoos on the face of her partner in crime indicate.

Mister216
04-03-16, 15:02
A lot of guys don't care what the girls do with the money. That's being foolish because if they're junkies this kind of shit is bound to happen. She's a f'ing loser anmimal cruelty and all and she's surrounded by f'ing losers as the tatoos on the face of her partner in crime indicate.When a lady is a junkie she's in a different classification, you can't trust a drug addict. Not your mom, sister, wife, friend or daughter. When a woman is addicted to drugs to the point where it is obvious, only a low balling monger wants to see her anyhow. As far as a girl having a husband, boyfriend, pimp, manager, girlfriend, driver, business partner, and / or etc. That's not my business. I do my research, I google, I call a few times before I set-up my actual appt.

For some odd reason many mongers feel as if theses women aren't suppose to have any men in their life? Do you really think all these women are in this world by themselves?

HornyTwist
04-03-16, 16:18
Shit like this seems to happen a lot in Akron. Apparently this incident occurred at 4:30 pm. Be careful out there.

http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2016/03/akron_woman_brother_lure_man_t.htmlRough deal all around.

But can anyone help me understand why would john report it. I assume now he would get legal charges for solicitation at least if not for forcing sex, and his identity may also be revealed.

Am I missing something? Or do you think involving LE is an option in certain circumstances?

Rafter17
04-03-16, 17:01
Shit like this seems to happen a lot in Akron. Apparently this incident occurred at 4:30 pm. Be careful out there.

http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2016/03/akron_woman_brother_lure_man_t.htmlWhy does anyone think that he didn't take the money in with him? Both her and the monger said that he didn't have it on him and he had to get it from the car. Unless I've known someone for awhile, I prefer to keep what kind of car I drive on a need to know basis. Don't anyone take this as I'm agreeing with what the her and the other people did, just curious about it is all.

Budd2
04-03-16, 18:06
Rough deal all around.

But can anyone help me understand why would john report it. I assume now he would get legal charges for solicitation at least if not for forcing sex, and his identity may also be revealed.

Am I missing something? Or do you think involving LE is an option in certain circumstances?


Why does anyone think that he didn't take the money in with him? Both her and the monger said that he didn't have it on him and he had to get it from the car. Unless I've known someone for awhile, I prefer to keep what kind of car I drive on a need to know basis. Don't anyone take this as I'm agreeing with what the her and the other people did, just curious about it is all.My guess is he was looking for a free BJ. Unfortunately many mongers are also dirt ball scumbags who rip off the girls. This looks like a scumbag monger meeting a scumbag hooker and her big time scumbag handler. It looks like all 3 lost on this one.

Monaco GP
04-03-16, 20:43
When a lady is a junkie she's in a different classification, you can't trust a drug addict. Not your mom, sister, wife, friend or daughter. When a woman is addicted to drugs to the point where it is obvious, only a low balling monger wants to see her anyhow. As far as a girl having a husband, boyfriend, pimp, manager, girlfriend, driver, business partner, and / or etc. That's not my business. I do my research, I google, I call a few times before I set-up my actual appt.

For some odd reason many mongers feel as if theses women aren't suppose to have any men in their life? Do you really think all these women are in this world by themselves?Looking at her mugshot it's clear she's on meth, scabbed up face and all. Beyond that she's obviously ghetto trash. With that comes ghetto trash dudes with tatoos on their faces. With that comes robberies. This is a pattern in Akron. Buyer beware and do your research.

Mister216
04-04-16, 07:51
Looking at her mugshot it's clear she's on meth, scabbed up face and all. Beyond that she's obviously ghetto trash. With that comes ghetto trash dudes with tatoos on their faces. With that comes robberies. This is a pattern in Akron. Buyer beware and do your research.What type of monger would even want to see a girl like that? Having standards sometimes eliminate us from BS.

Dixie Rect
04-04-16, 10:17
http://eroticservicesguide.com/statesearch.php?state=oh&q=&page=159

Scroll down until you see a name Bella. Her links are dead, but you can right click and view her photos. She used to post ads 10 times a day and constantly changed her header by using different names. Rocking little body on her, but the over posting and that black lipstick turned me off. Good thing because a mug shot is what I call a "new and recent photo" that these BP girls say to dupe us into seeing them.

Monaco GP
04-04-16, 16:31
What type of monger would even want to see a girl like that? Having standards sometimes eliminate us from BS.There is that. LOL.

CTownRJ
04-16-16, 20:21
Have fun while it lasts.

http://fox8.com/2016/04/13/i-team-sudden-end-to-prostitution-arrests-in-cleveland

Member #6028
04-16-16, 20:50
Have fun while it lasts.

http://fox8.com/2016/04/13/i-team-sudden-end-to-prostitution-arrests-in-clevelandTalked to a detective I know (not vice, but he still seemed to know) and he said it has nothing to do with RNC. It's all about their procedures before changing to match the justice department agreement. They have to change how they do things. What they are and are not allowed to do in a sting, etc.

He said this has zero impact on other agencies, they still can and will enforce things on their own. He also said there won't be any CPD stings across the board for drugs, prostitution, anything really during RNC, not because of politicians, just that they CPD can't spare anyone for a sting during it.

Rafter17
04-23-16, 08:57
One of the reasons that I don't go to this motel in Elyria. The print version has pics and one of them sure looks like her.

http://cleveland.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-picsall-day-specials-including-2-girl-new-number/26908475

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2016/04/23/4-held-in-rash-of-ods/

Smgrinder
04-23-16, 09:52
This is the motel where Jade and Alexia stay. I wonder if they were involved or got busted.

Rafter17
04-23-16, 10:45
This is the motel where Jade and Alexia stay. I wonder if they were involved or got busted.I know that's where they stay, but they weren't mentioned. I don't go there because of the drug issues there. I've been told by several people and seen it myself that the cops sit across the street in one of the gas stations once in awhile and watch the place. It's not worth the possible hassle for me to go there.

CTownRJ
05-08-16, 12:05
Be careful dealing with newbies on BP:

http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2016/05/florida_pimp_arrested_in_westl.html

Note:

"A task force made up of at least 50 community service and law enforcement agencies in Northeast Ohio is focusing efforts to curtail human trafficking during the convention. ".

SlooHands
05-08-16, 15:11
Be careful dealing with newbies on BP:

http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2016/05/florida_pimp_arrested_in_westl.html

Note:

"A task force made up of at least 50 community service and law enforcement agencies in Northeast Ohio is focusing efforts to curtail human trafficking during the convention. ".And while they consider this to be a big deal, Heroin is still flowing freely on the streets all across Cleveland & the country!!

Roboguy
05-08-16, 20:00
And while they consider this to be a big deal, Heroin is still flowing freely on the streets all across Cleveland & the country!!Convicting a guy for solicitation is way easier than a felony drug conviction. That means the police has to do more work.

JaggOff
05-09-16, 13:53
I saw this posted on the Warren board, thought it should be posted here. http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2016/05/parma_man_charged_with_having.html.

Miss Joy
05-09-16, 16:04
I saw this posted on the Warren board, thought it should be posted here. http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2016/05/parma_man_charged_with_having.html.I wonder if this was near York and snow by the License place.

DonQ1969
05-20-16, 07:17
http://www.worldmag.com/2016/03/senate_holds_backpage_execs_in_contempt_after_they_skip_hearing

SonnyChiba
06-02-17, 19:22
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/06/cleveland_man_accused_of_runni_2.html#incart_river_mobileshort_home_pop.

I hope no one got caught up in this.

WantsATreat
06-02-17, 23:39
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/06/cleveland_man_accused_of_runni_2.html#incart_river_mobileshort_home_pop.

I hope no one got caught up in this.I think it's been mentioned on here before, but I just heard about it on the radio too, so I'm not sure if this is new or not. They may have been busted a while back, and this is just their court date.

Feh5165
06-29-17, 08:14
http://fox8.com/2017/06/28/i-team-prostitution-arrests-put-on-hold-more-than-a-year/

A couple of observations;.

1. It will be hot out there, so don't go out looking.

2. This was daytime, so are more out at night.

3. Take the hint about task forces vs Cleveland Police.

4. On a lighter note, anyone recognize anyone? I liked the first one in the shorts and white t-shirt. Thank god they didn't send Mrs. Gallak to do the story. I would have been scarred for life.

Hookedonpun
06-30-17, 05:07
http://fox8.com/2017/06/28/i-team-prostitution-arrests-put-on-hold-more-than-a-year/

A couple of observations;.

1. It will be hot out there, so don't go out looking.

2. This was daytime, so are more out at night.

3. Take the hint about task forces vs Cleveland Police.

4. On a lighter note, anyone recognize anyone? I liked the first one in the shorts and white t-shirt. Thank god they didn't send Mrs. Gallak to do the story. I would have been scarred for life.I see no where was it mentioned that the new policy is in place. Why will it be hot it there? I was out last night (Thursday) and it was pretty typical for a Tuesday Thursday run. Nothing over the top. LEO was out girls were out. Same ole same ole.

ColdFusion2500
06-30-17, 13:30
I see no where was it mentioned that the new policy is in place. Why will it be hot it there? I was out last night (Thursday) and it was pretty typical for a Tuesday Thursday run. Nothing over the top. LEO was out girls were out. Same ole same ole.Erica from Steve's before it burned down. The videos being shown some were from" hos on Lorain " the car lot the fire extinguisher place is both recording. That black Camaro is a regular out and about don't know if he is a member. Also the Watertown cafe is complaining at the meeting about the girls. There's been busts going on this week I've seen them uc cars pulling over cars and I've seen that girl sue being out into a car just Tuesday and then again on Thursday morning I saw her being approached by 2 cops on the cone of w. 56th. So it's not like nothing is being done. It's just minimal effort. Normal cpd.

Hookedonpun
06-30-17, 16:28
Erica from Steve's before it burned down. The videos being shown some were from" hos on Lorain " the car lot the fire extinguisher place is both recording. That black Camaro is a regular out and about don't know if he is a member. Also the Watertown cafe is complaining at the meeting about the girls. There's been busts going on this week I've seen them uc cars pulling over cars and I've seen that girl sue being out into a car just Tuesday and then again on Thursday morning I saw her being approached by 2 cops on the cone of w. 56th. So it's not like nothing is being done. It's just minimal effort. Normal cpd.The same old shit. Its nothing new. I see girls getting talked to by LEO all the time. That doesn't mean its prostitution related. If anything most the time its warrent related. I'm not saying not to be mind full but if your pulling big ass you turns in the middle of lorain to make a scoop than you kinda deserve what ever you get.

Budd2
06-30-17, 20:36
Must admit, I do get a thrill cruising the stroll. But lately, it's just not worth the risk of being on the 6 O'clock news. At least if the girls were 5 or above on a scale of 10 (not SW scale) I might reconsider. But every time I pick up a SW, it's $33 for a room (no more going to $20 Lancer, its way too nasty) and $40 - $50 for a smelly pussy bad hygiene girl, it's not worth it.

Hookedonpun
06-30-17, 21:22
Must admit, I do get a thrill cruising the stroll. But lately, it's just not worth the risk of being on the 6 O'clock news. At least if the girls were 5 or above on a scale of 10 (not SW scale) I might reconsider. But every time I pick up a SW, it's $33 for a room (no more going to $20 Lancer, its way too nasty) and $40 - $50 for a smelly pussy bad hygiene girl, it's not worth it.A room? 40 to 50? You must be one of these ballers the girls keep telling me about. In between choking down my cock for 20. LOL.

ColdFusion2500
07-01-17, 00:50
The same old shit. Its nothing new. I see girls getting talked to by LEO all the time. That doesn't mean its prostitution related. If anything most the time its warrent related. I'm not saying not to be mind full but if your pulling big ass you turns in the middle of lorain to make a scoop than you kinda deserve what ever you get.They do get warrants from doing this but police don't normally pull a car over and go to the passenger door pull girl out. I get what your saying I just see things that leads me to believe they are doing bust around the area. As for the you turn geniuses I agree and will add the ones that slam on the brakes and swerve into the curb lane. I mean they have to be one of two things. Desperate or rookies.

Ceasar160
07-01-17, 07:32
The lame in this video should have been told about people in glass houses. No matter what you're selling out of them.


http://fox8.com/2017/06/28/i-team-prostitution-arrests-put-on-hold-more-than-a-year/

A couple of observations;.

1. It will be hot out there, so don't go out looking.

2. This was daytime, so are more out at night.

3. Take the hint about task forces vs Cleveland Police.

4. On a lighter note, anyone recognize anyone? I liked the first one in the shorts and white t-shirt. Thank god they didn't send Mrs. Gallak to do the story. I would have been scarred for life.

BudBowl2001
08-29-17, 11:32
Another similar event transpired in 2016 when two additional girls were arrested for prostitution related charges and sent to Cuyahoga County Jail. Once at the county they began to express their frustrations to their attorneys and to the girls in their housing areas. One of the girls alleged "the officer had me give him a blow job and then he arrested me after, what the fuck is that?" while another girl told her attorney "I was used as an informant more than 50 different times, given money to buy drugs, to bust johns and I would actually have sex with him, he only arrested me because I stopped being an informant".

Right around the same time that these allegations were arising the Cleveland Police issued the following statement:

"All prostitution (sex for money) related Vice enforcement shall cease immediately. " And, "Advise your Detectives under no circumstances shall they have a suspected prostitute get into a vehicle with them or have any physical contact with. Police. ".

City Spokesman Dan Ball issued a statement that said only, ". The Division is in the process of revamping its policies. " In fact, the memo also says, "We are formulating a policy that will cover procedures for these types of details. " And, "The policy will define clear, concise and lawful direction. ".

It has been widely known in the streets and even the public domain (see our resources below) that Detective John Graves has in the past been alleged to falsify testimony (see: Beasley), resort to intimidation (violence ie; Wendell Jolly) and take advantage of local area prostitutes to beef up arrests (using informants more than 100 different times, and various allegations). His outstanding jacket is matched only by his record number of arrests and ability to worm his way into any male or female prostitutes world & drug dealers den. He's been able to do this by building up an amazing track record that apparently was made possible by stretching the "thin blue line".

WanderingAbout
09-27-17, 23:57
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-28/hugh-hefner-playboy-founder-who-seduced-america-dies-at-91

AddictedToLust
09-28-17, 12:36
If you do a search on www.cleveland19.com for the word 'sting', you'll see the full story. I won't post the full story link here, because the story lists names of people arrested, and is therefore against the rules. But, apparently, Mahoning County is posting ads to entrap mongers. Be advised.

RoadKing1
09-28-17, 21:21
If you do a search on www.cleveland19.com for the word 'sting', you'll see the full story. I won't post the full story link here, because the story lists names of people arrested, and is therefore against the rules. But, apparently, Mahoning County is posting ads to entrap mongers. Be advised.No story anywhere!

Crazy Sammy
09-28-17, 22:14
No story anywhere!I comes right up if you search the word "sting". Just scroll down.

RoadKing1
09-28-17, 23:32
I comes right up if you search the word "sting". Just scroll down.Thanks for the heads up.

DeskJockey
12-01-17, 11:22
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/11/akron_man_arrested_with_nine_o.html#incart_river_home_pop.

Valdez
12-02-17, 13:42
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/11/akron_man_arrested_with_nine_o.html#incart_river_home_pop.Saw this article complete with photographs of the perps:

WARREN, Ohio -- An Akron man was arrested along with nine others in an undercover prostitution sting in Warren.

Cxxx Nxxxxx, 38, of Akron was charged with solicitation Wednesday when he and several other men responded to online sex advertisements, according to a statement from the Ohio Attorney General's office.

The men communicated with undercover authorities posing as a woman and arranged to have sex in Warren, officials said.

Officials did not say where the men arranged to meet the woman.

The nine other men charged are:

I am not re-posting the names because it would only serve to shame them for a rather low level crime, which is not a crime in many other jurisdictions. I do have a few questions.

1) Why aren't shoplifters photos ever printed so that shop owners can look out for them?

2) Why do we publicly shame these persons that were arrested for responding to an ad presumably placed by "law enforcement" before having their day in court. In other words, would it not be more appropriate to post these pictures after a conviction.

3) Why is law enforcement spending their time and energy on arresting alleged "Johns" rather than burglars, thieves, rapists, and domestic violence perps?

4) Would legalizing prostitution not result in less disease, less crime, and more money to eliminate human trafficking which I think we can all agree is bad?

5) Why is sex for free legal, but sex for money is not? How many other crimes have that component?

I hope I have not bored you to death. In the Western hemisphere prostitution is illegal in Cuba and The United States. Think about that.

Note: Johns can now be arrested in Canada but providers can not be arrested. This has been the law for about two years. I am not seeing "John" stings in Canada.

Cheech1
12-03-17, 10:17
Prostitution is illegal iin the United States for many reasons. I believe some of these reasons are:

1. Religion. Religion plays a very strong role in the USA, primarily due to politicians wearing it on their sleeves to gain votes. The church, though, must do its best to stop prostitution because the church tries to control and keep its members through control of sex, I. E. , sex is a sin outside marriage, and you must be a member of the church to get married in one, (since they view a civil marriage as illegitimate). Therefore you must be a member of the church to have sex. Otherwise its a sin.

2. Women. Women as well as the church want to keep prostitution illegal because they want to use the availability of sex to control men. You know, buy me a mink and I'll let you have a little greek. They want to be able to let themselves go, get fat as pigs and still control their men.

3. Government. The government wants to keep prostitution illegal for the same reasons as churches and women, plus they don't like the unreported income going untaxed. The government, which is the biggest mafia the world has ever seen, wants a cut of every dollar that moves.

4. I'm sure there are other published reasons, but most of them are bullshit. 1, 2, and 3 above are the real reasons. At least in my opinion.

Cheech

DeskJockey
12-03-17, 14:44
Saw this article complete with photographs of the perps:

2) Why do we publicly shame these persons that were arrested for responding to an ad presumably placed by "law enforcement" before having their day in court. In other words, would it not be more appropriate to post these pictures after a conviction.

I hope I have not bored you to death. In the Western hemisphere prostitution is illegal in Cuba and The United States. Think about that.

Public shaming is an understatement. The lives of these men are destroyed by pigs. Pigs send out weekly police reports, typically by email, to the local newspapers with mugshots. They need to keep their departments / salaries relevant and budgeted after all. Further it adds to the fear psychosis. In reality, crime has been decreasing in our country but they want you to think that the country is being run over crime.

There are several countries where cops will cover the faces of those who are accused of minor crime (by covering their faces with a cloth, bag.) in front of the press so that the rest of their lives are not destroyed. Example: In France, doing this kind of shit is illegal.

Releasing mugshots to the press does not routinely happen in most countries. It happens every week, in police blotter emails that go out to the local newspapers, in the home of the brave and the land of the free. Think about that.

Here's my question and I know I am digressing: why aren't people allowed to see coffins / photos of our soldiers who die in unnecessary wars? Why are records of people who are killed / assaulted by pigs not kept? Answer: The power like to keep its dirty work hidden.

DeskJockey
12-03-17, 15:47
Prostitution is illegal in the United States for many reasons. CheechIf it was not illegal, many reported and unreported child abuses by the church may not have happened. The John Jay College of Criminal Justice report tabulated a total of 4,392 priests and deacons in the USA Against whom allegations of sexual abuse had been made.

Valdez
12-04-17, 13:35
If it was not illegal, many reported and unreported child abuses by the church may not have happened. The John Jay College of Criminal Justice report tabulated a total of 4,392 priests and deacons in the USA Against whom allegations of sexual abuse had been made.


Prostitution is illegal iin the United States for many reasons. I believe some of these reasons are:

3. Government. The government wants to keep prostitution illegal for the same reasons as churches and women, plus they don't like the unreported income going untaxed. The government, which is the biggest mafia the world has ever seen, wants a cut of every dollar that moves.

CheechSex with children should always be a crime.

If you want to tax earnings from prostitution then legalize it.

DeskJockey
12-04-17, 21:45
Saw this article complete with photographs of the perps:

WARREN, Ohio -- An Akron man was arrested along with nine others in an undercover prostitution sting in Warren.

Cxxx Nxxxxx, 38, of Akron was charged with solicitation Wednesday when he and several other men responded to online sex advertisements, according to a statement from the Ohio Attorney General's office.

The men communicated with undercover authorities posing as a woman and arranged to have sex in Warren, officials said.

Officials did not say where the men arranged to meet the woman.

The nine other men charged are:

I am not re-posting the names because it would only serve to shame them for a rather low level crime, which is not a crime in many other jurisdictions. I do have a few questions.

1) Why aren't shoplifters photos ever printed so that shop owners can look out for them?

2) Why do we publicly shame these persons that were arrested for responding to an ad presumably placed by "law enforcement" before having their day in court. In other words, would it not be more appropriate to post these pictures after a conviction.

3) Why is law enforcement spending their time and energy on arresting alleged "Johns" rather than burglars, thieves, rapists, and domestic violence perps?

4) Would legalizing prostitution not result in less disease, less crime, and more money to eliminate human trafficking which I think we can all agree is bad?

5) Why is sex for free legal, but sex for money is not? How many other crimes have that component?

I hope I have not bored you to death. In the Western hemisphere prostitution is illegal in Cuba and The United States. Think about that.

Note: Johns can now be arrested in Canada but providers can not be arrested. This has been the law for about two years. I am not seeing "John" stings in Canada.Police officers around the city are threatened with transfers, no vacation time and sick time unless they have arrests and summonses on their activity sheets. This is the same practice that caused officers to be labeled racist and abusers of power. - New York Police Department staff.

OhMyGoodness
01-11-18, 17:25
Caught luring and robbing us.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/02/cleveland_boyfriend_girlfriend.html

Friendly8888
01-11-18, 17:58
Caught luring and robbing us.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/02/cleveland_boyfriend_girlfriend.htmlHere is her pic. It says she is still on the loose, so she might be still trolling.

Update: I just saw that the article was from 2/16/17, so I'd hope that they caught her by now.....

WhoreMoan
01-11-18, 18:15
Here is her pic. It says she is still on the loose, so she might be still trolling.

Update: I just saw that the article was from 2/16/17, so I'd hope that they caught her by now.....That article is a year old, they've both probably been arrested and released a couple times since then.

LowRider69
11-20-18, 11:58
https://reason.com/blog/2017/11/13/eroscom-still-lives-but-homeland-securit

As of today, eros-ohio.com is no longer available. It use to be a good site for agency travelling girls.

HungryEye
11-20-18, 15:43
More bureaucratic over reach. WTF does Homeland Security have to do with girls making a living? Granted chasing hookers is a lot more fun and not a dangerous as chasing bad guys but GMAFB go watch the borders.


https://reason.com/blog/2017/11/13/eroscom-still-lives-but-homeland-securit

As of today, eros-ohio.com is no longer available. It use to be a good site for agency travelling girls.

JaggOff
11-20-18, 15:45
https://reason.com/blog/2017/11/13/eroscom-still-lives-but-homeland-securit

As of today, eros-ohio.com is no longer available. It use to be a good site for agency travelling girls.That article is from a year ago. Looks like the site is still working.

HungryEye
11-20-18, 15:48
That article is from a year ago. Looks like the site is still working.I don't care it still pisses me off. Is it happy hour yet?

SpinnerLover69
11-20-18, 16:23
That article is from a year ago. Looks like the site is still working.How is eros still up and running but back page, the erotic review got shut down? They are providing the same thing, makes no sense. One thing I do notice is that the high end agencies out in los angeles that represent porn stars for dates now require a deposit and an account before even viewing the goods.

LowRider69
11-20-18, 22:50
That article is from a year ago. Looks like the site is still working.Not working.

JaggOff
11-20-18, 23:25
Not working.It is for me. What browser are you using?

https://www.eros.com/ohio/eros.htm

Second Timer
02-01-19, 18:14
http://www.cleveland19.com/2019/02/01/cleveland-duo-arrested-mentor-hotel-during-prostitution-sting/

Dixie Rect
02-01-19, 19:53
http://www.cleveland19.com/2019/02/01/cleveland-duo-arrested-mentor-hotel-during-prostitution-sting/http://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/wheres-the-real-men/387346358311

It looks like her. Damn that ass is tempting but due to her lack of smiling her grill must be jacked. I don't want my dick in a box grater.

Rafter17
02-02-19, 09:54
http://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/wheres-the-real-men/387346358311

It looks like her. Damn that ass is tempting but due to her lack of smiling her grill must be jacked. I don't want my dick in a box grater.It is her. Check out her facebook page.

Tanner7788
02-02-19, 10:15
It is her. Check out her facebook page.Damn she went downhill over the last two years.

BuckeyeGuy2
02-02-19, 11:01
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2019/02/cleveland-cop-under-investigation-for-multiple-counts-of-soliciting-prostitute-officials-say.html

Lancelot Link
02-02-19, 11:20
http://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/wheres-the-real-men/387346358311

It looks like her. Damn that ass is tempting but due to her lack of smiling her grill must be jacked. I don't want my dick in a box grater.I booked a few months ago because all the comments on EB. Definately friends of hers posting the great BJ skills. My experience was terrible. BBBJ felt like a meat grinder, had to stop her and move to cfs. She also rushes, was a waste of money and time. Her pos associate that she got nabbed with is a sex offender, news story said, he raped a 5 year old boy and served 21 years. Good riddance to both of those bottom dwellers.

HungryEye
02-02-19, 17:31
Damn she went downhill over the last two years.Looks like meth.

WhoreMoan
05-06-19, 17:09
Westlake cops bust 3 chicks for escorting at hotels in 2 separate incidents. I didn't see anything about it in the Plain dealer but the Lorain Journal has the story.

Be safe!

https://www.morningjournal.com/news/crime/westlake-police-charge-with-prostitution/article_ae7b3c60-6e12-11e9-9e9d-474e4a465c26.html

Gunthertwid
07-31-19, 17:54
https://www.cleveland.com/crime/2019/07/seven-accused-of-promoting-prostitution-at-northern-ohio-massage-parlors-raided-by-authorities.html

ZDog2658
09-03-19, 18:52
Nice day for a ride only thing uncle LEO is out and about. Also some girls that look to good to be true. Let's be careful out there ZD.

Francis123
09-03-19, 22:48
The local paper says 9 men arrested in a sting at West 65th and Lorain. Remember: Decoys don't get in your car and certainly don't let you drive off with them. They want you to incriminate yourself while they stand outside your car. Easy to avoid. These stings aren't very common, either. They put it in the paper to try and scare people. But I wouldn't be surprised if the police have gotten an uptick in complaints closer to the Ohio City neighborhood because the road construction further west is probably causing more activities to the east?

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2019/09/cleveland-prostitution-sting-nets-9-arrests-on-west-side.html

Gunthertwid
09-04-19, 03:15
Nice day for a ride only thing uncle LEO is out and about. Also some girls that look to good to be true. Let's be careful out there ZD.https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2019/09/cleveland-prostitution-sting-nets-9-arrests-on-west-side.html

BudBowl2001
09-05-19, 06:54
Lets be careful guys. Stick to the regulars. Watch your six. Uncle LEO is in his mood right now.

https://fox8.com/2019/08/29/five-arrested-in-solon-prostitution-sting/

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/story/201908080012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e9ZfSYkCJo

Lots of heat. Its all over the area.

Cleguy48
09-06-19, 00:10
Lets be careful guys. Stick to the regulars. Watch your six. Uncle LEO is in his mood right now.

https://fox8.com/2019/08/29/five-arrested-in-solon-prostitution-sting/

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/story/201908080012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e9ZfSYkCJo

Lots of heat. Its all over the area.One of the girls in the Sandusky raid was on next week short list. Thanks.

Member #6297
09-14-19, 13:04
One of the girls in the Sandusky raid was on next week short list. Thanks.I saw one and she was an amazing time multiple times. Really chill and amazing body. I guess she'll need money now though.

BudBowl2001
09-14-19, 16:12
Which one.


I saw one and she was an amazing time multiple times. Really chill and amazing body. I guess she'll need money now though.

Member #6297
09-14-19, 19:20
Which one.Didn't know if we were allowed to say names. Bryttani though. I haven't seen her in a while and I saw an ad that looked like her but she wouldn't confirm. When I saw her before she went by her actual name.

BudBowl2001
09-22-19, 07:35
What app or dating site they were using. Just a heads up to be safe and diligent in this game.

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2019/09/2-people-robbed-in-akron-after-setting-up-meetings-through-apps.html

RCR83
09-22-19, 14:26
What app or dating site they were using. Just a heads up to be safe and diligent in this game.

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2019/09/2-people-robbed-in-akron-after-setting-up-meetings-through-apps.htmlI would assume that the first incident was almost certainly Tinder.

BudBowl2001
03-04-20, 23:33
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/state/ohio-lawmakers-consider-johns-registry-for-those-who-buy-sex

Triddd09
03-06-20, 14:21
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/state/ohio-lawmakers-consider-johns-registry-for-those-who-buy-sexI'm sure all of his politician buddies will make the "registry".

Ceasar160
03-06-20, 14:48
I wonder if they're going to start a registry for politicians that lie, cheat, & steal?


https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/state/ohio-lawmakers-consider-johns-registry-for-those-who-buy-sex

PeteSchweddy
03-06-20, 16:05
I wonder if they're going to start a registry for politicians that lie, cheat, & steal?That's been around for ages, and it gets updated every four years.

OneHourAtATime
03-06-20, 20:45
ANNNNND Pete with the slam dunk!


That's been around for ages, and it gets updated every four years.

Finish Insider
09-06-20, 12:03
He seems to be in a little trouble.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/31/movies/ron-jeremy-sexual-assault-charges.html

MrSmith1969
10-31-20, 07:57
LEO in Orange has nothing better to do than this.

Budd2
11-01-20, 21:11
LEO in Orange has nothing better to do than this.I haven't seen any ads that looked suspicious in the past several weeks.

Neodarke
11-06-20, 11:45
https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/11/05/days-inn-elyria-declared-nuisance-by-court-ordered-shut-down/

BudBowl2001
11-07-20, 05:46
Strong rumors of Amazon putting a distribution center there. Judge just helping them out. You will see Midway mall coming down soon.


https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/11/05/days-inn-elyria-declared-nuisance-by-court-ordered-shut-down/

RavensBurg
03-17-21, 01:08
https://apnews.com/article/georgia-us-news-atlanta-shootings-9e39706c523c733a6d83d9baf4866154

Gunthertwid
03-17-21, 10:52
https://apnews.com/article/georgia-us-news-atlanta-shootings-9e39706c523c733a6d83d9baf4866154I can see this turning into an excuse for LEOs everywhere to plant a squad car in the parking lots of every AMP in the country as "protection" of the asian community.

Cheech1
04-17-21, 07:52
Well gents, the gaggle of fools called the Ohio Legislature just passed or updated a law dealing with our hobby which is designed (they say) to prosecute us, but in fact it looks to me like it is just another attempt at money grabbing by the gestapo, as it carries a $1,500 fine in addition to mandating "reeducation".

ORC 2907.231, eff. 4/12/21.

(A) As used in this section, "sexual activity for hire" means an implicit or explicit agreement to provide sexual activity in exchange for anything of value paid to the person engaging in such sexual activity, to any person trafficking that person, or to any person associated with either such person.

(B) No person shall recklessly induce, entice, or procure another to engage in sexual activity for hire in exchange for the person giving anything of value to the other person.

(C) Whoever violates division (B) of this section is guilty of engaging in prostitution, a misdemeanor of the first degree. In sentencing the offender under this division, the court shall require the offender to attend an education or treatment program aimed at preventing persons from inducing, enticing, or procuring another to engage in sexual activity for hire in exchange for the person giving anything of value to the other person and, notwithstanding the fine specified in division (A)(2)(a) of section 2929.28 of the Revised Code for a misdemeanor of the first degree, the court may impose upon the offender a fine of not more than one thousand five hundred dollars.

As you can see it is rather vague.

I mean, how do they prove "implicit". Does that mean if the governor promises his wife, or "implies" to her that if she gives him a blow job he will buy her a mink coat that he is guilty of violating this statute? Apparently so. It is clear to me that this is going to be used to threaten and/or intimidate us, and that we are all gonna have an assache until one of us with enough money, balls and time gets jammed up with this thing and takes it to a high enough court that it can be thrown out.

I can just see me in a "re-education class" telling the so-called teacher that they are full of shit. I wonder if the fine will be dependent upon how well one kisses the teacher's ass? More bullshit.

As usual, however, if we follow the rules and watch our backs, we can mostly avoid this aggravation.

Check the Columbus boards for more info and discussion. Cleveland will, I'm sure, be next.

Cheech1, out

DannyWilson216
04-17-21, 09:10
Central Ohio law enforcement arrest 93 as johns targeted in human trafficking stings at hotels.

It was all part of what law enforcement called "Operation 614," a two-day sting at hotels across central Ohio that targeted the demand side of the sex trade as well as efforts to identify victims of human trafficking and get them connected to services. Overseen by Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost's office, officers from more than 20 different law-enforcement agencies identified 53 trafficking survivors and arrested 93 people.

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2021/04/16/ohio-attorney-general-columbus-suburban-police-tackle-human-trafficking-prostitution/7203508002/

DannyWilson216
04-17-21, 09:14
(Just in case you missed news reports. Thanks Cheech for posting).

Central Ohio law enforcement arrest 93 as johns targeted in human trafficking stings at hotels.

It was all part of what law enforcement called "Operation 614," a two-day sting at hotels across central Ohio that targeted the demand side of the sex trade as well as efforts to identify victims of human trafficking and get them connected to services. Overseen by Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost's office, officers from more than 20 different law-enforcement agencies identified 53 trafficking survivors and arrested 93 people.

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2021/04/16/ohio-attorney-general-columbus-suburban-police-tackle-human-trafficking-prostitution/7203508002/


Well gents, the gaggle of fools called the Ohio Legislature just passed or updated a law dealing with our hobby which is designed (they say) to prosecute us, but in fact it looks to me like it is just another attempt at money grabbing by the gestapo, as it carries a $1,500 fine in addition to mandating "reeducation".

ORC 2907.231, eff. 4/12/21.

(A) As used in this section, "sexual activity for hire" means an implicit or explicit agreement to provide sexual activity in exchange for anything of value paid to the person engaging in such sexual activity, to any person trafficking that person, or to any person associated with either such person.

(B) No person shall recklessly induce, entice, or procure another to engage in sexual activity for hire in exchange for the person giving anything of value to the other person.

(C) Whoever violates division (B) of this section is guilty of engaging in prostitution, a misdemeanor of the first degree. In sentencing the offender under this division, the court shall require the offender to attend an education or treatment program aimed at preventing persons from inducing, enticing, or procuring another to engage in sexual activity for hire in exchange for the person giving anything of value to the other person and, notwithstanding the fine specified in division (A)(2)(a) of section 2929.28 of the Revised Code for a misdemeanor of the first degree, the court may impose upon the offender a fine of not more than one thousand five hundred dollars.

As you can see it is rather vague.

I mean, how do they prove "implicit". Does that mean if the governor promises his wife, or "implies" to her that if she gives him a blow job he will buy her a mink coat that he is guilty of violating this statute? Apparently so. It is clear to me that this is going to be used to threaten and/or intimidate us, and that we are all gonna have an assache until one of us with enough money, balls and time gets jammed up with this thing and takes it to a high enough court that it can be thrown out.

I can just see me in a "re-education class" telling the so-called teacher that they are full of shit. I wonder if the fine will be dependent upon how well one kisses the teacher's ass? More bullshit.

As usual, however, if we follow the rules and watch our backs, we can mostly avoid this aggravation.

Check the Columbus boards for more info and discussion. Cleveland will, I'm sure, be next.

Cheech1, out

Budd2
04-17-21, 09:54
The better days are behind us. It used to be way more fun. Less rip offs and scammers. Good looking sexy hookers are a distant past. The new law is irrelevant, there's hardly any talent left in Ohio. I'm mongering way less, I have have to take trips to others cities to find talent. The Gestapo (as Cheech correctly refers to it) has it's own perverted obsession with hookers. Our legislators looking for political brownie points and "moral" constituents are hypocrites. Reading the Columbus board, they "saved" 53 human trafficking victims / drug addicts" You know most of them they "saved" are most likely nasty addicts with sores, blemishes fat and ugly and no one I would touch. You realize they could care less about the one's they "saved", they just want news headlines. Just be careful out there, very few decent providers left. Anyone new that looks decent is either a scam or a sting. Time to retire and stick with only ones you know.

They also arrested guys going after underaged girls. If they would just limit their sting operation to pedophiles, then I could support their actions. But to fuck two consenting adults, that's Bullshit!

Chunks92
04-17-21, 11:02
The better days are behind us. It used to be way more fun. Less rip offs and scammers. Good looking sexy hookers are a distant past. The new law is irrelevant, there's hardly any talent left in Ohio. I'm mongering way less, I have have to take trips to others cities to find talent. The Gestapo (as Cheech correctly refers to it) has it's own perverted obsession with hookers. Our legislators looking for political brownie points and "moral" constituents are hypocrites. Reading the Columbus board, they "saved" 53 human trafficking victims / drug addicts" You know most of them they "saved" are most likely nasty addicts with sores, blemishes fat and ugly and no one I would touch. You realize they could care less about the one's they "saved", they just want news headlines. Just be careful out there, very few decent providers left. Anyone new that looks decent is either a scam or a sting. Time to retire and stick with only ones you know.

They also arrested guys going after underaged girls. If they would just limit their sting operation to pedophiles, then I could support their actions. But to fuck two consenting adults, that's Bullshit!100 percent agree with everything you said Budd. I wish they would limit their sting to those scumbags instead of worrying about what two consenting adults do. As far as "rescuing the victims" its bullshit, like you said they are women that most of us on here would never touch, and if look at the court records from columbus ever since Yost started this whole "trafficking victim" movement, they end up being found guilty anyway and it goes on their record. As far as the dudes go if you watch the video wow are they idiots they actually talk to the reporter and beg for forgiveness from the police. If they shut up and hire an attorney they can easily get a reduced charge. These operations arent helping anyone they are just getting arrests and more money out of the poor. I respect alot of what Yost has done for Ohio but hes completely clueless on this topic.

Admin2
04-17-21, 11:17
This will probably go on for awhile so I moved it here.

A2

Dreamer2
04-18-21, 09:58
The better days are behind us. It used to be way more fun. Less rip offs and scammers. Good looking sexy hookers are a distant past. The new law is irrelevant, there's hardly any talent left in Ohio. I'm mongering way less, I have have to take trips to others cities to find talent. The Gestapo (as Cheech correctly refers to it) has it's own perverted obsession with hookers. Our legislators looking for political brownie points and "moral" constituents are hypocrites. Reading the Columbus board, they "saved" 53 human trafficking victims / drug addicts" You know most of them they "saved" are most likely nasty addicts with sores, blemishes fat and ugly and no one I would touch. You realize they could care less about the one's they "saved", they just want news headlines. Just be careful out there, very few decent providers left. Anyone new that looks decent is either a scam or a sting. Time to retire and stick with only ones you know.

They also arrested guys going after underaged girls. If they would just limit their sting operation to pedophiles, then I could support their actions. But to fuck two consenting adults, that's Bullshit!So does that mean the sugarbaby sites are going to be infiltrated with LE now?

Cheech1
04-22-21, 05:41
Noticed a report on Yahoo news that NYC is no longer prosecuting sex workers and unlicensed massage workers. However, they are still going after mongers. Go figure.

Cheech.

TMeister
04-22-21, 15:12
The better days are behind us. It used to be way more fun. Less rip offs and scammers. Good looking sexy hookers are a distant past. The new law is irrelevant, there's hardly any talent left in Ohio. I'm mongering way less, I have have to take trips to others cities to find talent. The Gestapo (as Cheech correctly refers to it) has it's own perverted obsession with hookers. Our legislators looking for political brownie points and "moral" constituents are hypocrites. Reading the Columbus board, they "saved" 53 human trafficking victims / drug addicts" You know most of them they "saved" are most likely nasty addicts with sores, blemishes fat and ugly and no one I would touch. You realize they could care less about the one's they "saved", they just want news headlines. Just be careful out there, very few decent providers left. Anyone new that looks decent is either a scam or a sting. Time to retire and stick with only ones you know.

They also arrested guys going after underaged girls. If they would just limit their sting operation to pedophiles, then I could support their actions. But to fuck two consenting adults, that's Bullshit!I agree about prosecuting guys who go after underage girls. You have to draw a line in the sand in this hobby, and messing around with minors is despicable.

But I think police and politicians are using social media as a weapon. They know they can't get anything more than a 3rd degree misdemeanor charge to stick on these guys, and no judge wants to fill up jails with guys who's only crime is being horny and wanting pussy. However, there is no taxpayer dollars involved with publicly shaming a guy for soliciting a hooker, and they know this can be a powerful deterrent since every monger is scared to death of his family or employer knowing about his sex hobby activities. There have been plenty of stories about some surgeon who makes $500,000 a year suddenly being fired and blacklisted from every hospital and clinic just because he hired a girl to suck his dick at a hotel.

The only hope we have to save this hobby is if we start fighting back and making the politicians allow experimental programs to legalize sex workers, much the same as we did to legalize marijuana. We all dream of a day where a normal Joe can walk into a legal brothel in his hometown and experience no shame in emptying his nuts into a sexy lady's mouth or vagina in exchange for giving her a nice cash donation. Many parts of Europe and Asia have had this attitude for decades and I don't see them having massive moral breakdowns in society because of it.

Ceasar160
04-22-21, 22:31
Came across this today. May take a few years for the dominos to fall into place, but most likely will happen. At least that's what's been happening with marijuana.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-185325536.html

Slow Roller
04-23-21, 17:19
Came across this today. May take a few years for the dominos to fall into place, but most likely will happen. At least that's what's been happening with marijuana.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-185325536.htmlDoesn't help us out at all, they're just not prosecuting the prostitutes.

TMeister
04-25-21, 00:07
Came across this today. May take a few years for the dominos to fall into place, but most likely will happen. At least that's what's been happening with marijuana.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-185325536.htmlDefinitely a good sign, and it only makes sense to decriminalize the act of seeking prostitutes as well.

The only real criminal element that needs to be dealt with is traffickers, who are forcing women and minors to endure sex work under threat of violence or other harassment. I fully support sending traffickers to prison.

Even people with the lowest IQ will understand that two adults in a hotel room enjoying some naughty time with a little cash being exchanged is not a criminal act. It's Mother Nature and free enterprise at work.

ColdFusion2500
05-04-21, 20:14
There's been a sweep and sting in and. E. o. Hope nobody I know got caught up by it. 14 arrested.

BuckeyeGuy2
05-05-21, 00:36
Is this the article that you are referring to?: https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/05/04/multi-county-human-trafficking-operation-leads-arrest-northeast-ohio-several-victims-identified/.

Anybody know what ad they placed to lure these guys? Article does not mention any info about the girls.


There's been a sweep and sting in and. E. o. Hope nobody I know got caught up by it. 14 arrested.

Chunks92
05-05-21, 09:31
Is this the article that you are referring to?: https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/05/04/multi-county-human-trafficking-operation-leads-arrest-northeast-ohio-several-victims-identified/.

Anybody know what ad they placed to lure these guys? Article does not mention any info about the girls.You can lookup the offenders on case search and all but one of them was arrested at a residential location in Akron owned by the summit co land reutilization company. The other was arrested about 23 miles away from Akron in an address in the middle of the road. I can't help but wonder what that scenario was, maybe he got there and took off and LEO got his plate. But I'm very interested as to see what the results of these cases are. As far as the women "victims" that are arrested they are not made public, but they are arrested and found guilty in court. There is actually a FB page in columbus that you can find the mugshots of the women they arrest. And by running their names on case search, sure as shit, guilty guilty guilty. They don't care about helping victims, the human trafficking rescuing is their secondary priority unfortunately, their first priority is to use all the federal tax dollars that they are getting rack up overtime and make as many arrests and ruin as many lives as possible. Its all a public relations stunt. As far as the ads go I can't say for sure but I believe its a mixture of STG and Craigslist. I was at a bar one time and these guys across the bar were talking about hookers and stuff, then the guy next to me was shaking his head and was telling me me that his buddy got arrested in one of these. I'm not sure exactly what sting it was but he said "those guys are idiots, if you're looking for prostitutes on craigslist that task force will get you, happened to my buddy. " but I don't believe in this day and age they use any single site. Except for maybe some of the smaller departments. Craigslist would make sense though, I haven't used craigslist for many years I used to use it to buy cars, but unlike STG which has that disclaimer Craigslist does not which would take away the entrapment defense. This is all the info I had, I wish I could honestly say its foolproof but as we all know nothing is but hope you gents got something out of it. Be safe out there.

Ceasar160
05-05-21, 11:13
Escort Alligator, and Sumo Search haven't had any new ads come up in over 4 hours. Sumo was actually down briefly this morning. Coincidence?

Rafter17
05-05-21, 11:20
Escort Alligator, and Sumo Search haven't had any new ads come up in over 4 hours. Sumo was actually down briefly this morning. Coincidence?Escort alligator was working for me around 9:30 or so this morning and I was seeing ads time stamped for the 8 am hour. Says it's down for maintenance now.

Rafter17
05-05-21, 13:09
Escort Alligator, and Sumo Search haven't had any new ads come up in over 4 hours. Sumo was actually down briefly this morning. Coincidence?It's working now.

Cheech1
05-06-21, 05:17
Just have to be very careful when you're discussing activities. If an ad has pricing in it and is a sting they will claim that paying for sex is inferred by the fact that you answered the ad. Remember the wording of the damn law.

So, if I were going to call a girl or text her, and her ad said something about rates, I would specify that all I was interested in was taking her out for dinner or a couple drinks. Especially if I am sending a text. I wouldn't discuss money in any other context unless and until I was face to face and not in an area which was / is in her control or the control of the gestapo. If she insisted on raising the issue in a way that could be considered to be inference of an illegal action then I would reiterate that I was only interested in her time for dinner or a couple drinks and then terminate contact, again specifically saying that I would not and wasn't asking or inferring about money for sex.

This may lead to some difficulty in determining rates and may be a problem until people understand what the hell is going on, when you are chatting up a new prospect. But, lets be clear, we are not buying a car here, we are trying to get laid without the related aggravation of having a relationship, for whatever reason. The gestapo and the churches and the bluenoses don't like that, so we have to shield ourselves.

You have to be very sure that you make it clear that you are not trying to exchange money for sex, by positively denying such. No hint hint, no trying to word your conversation to let her know you will pay. Remember, she knows why you are calling. You know why you are calling. If its a sting, the pigs know why you are calling. What that means is that you have to make sure you don't leave any evidence that could be used against you, and if the inference is made you have to specifically, positively deny it. That way, if it is a bust, and your attorney listens to the tape, then he will know that he can play it to a jury and you will be acquitted. And /or he can brace the prosecutor with the fact that they have no evidence and that you aren't gonna cop a plea, and your attorney is going to do the best he can to make a monkey out of the prosecutor in court.

This brings us to the point of having an attorney. Choose wisely.

Cheech

BumLick1
05-06-21, 05:46
Definitely a good sign, and it only makes sense to decriminalize the act of seeking prostitutes as well.

The only real criminal element that needs to be dealt with is traffickers, who are forcing women and minors to endure sex work under threat of violence or other harassment. I fully support sending traffickers to prison.

Even people with the lowest IQ will understand that two adults in a hotel room enjoying some naughty time with a little cash being exchanged is not a criminal act. It's Mother Nature and free enterprise at work.The difference is that that's New York City, undoubtedly one of the bluest and most liberal places in the country. We live in Ohio where "conservatism" rules. The candidates have to cozy up to the religious right for votes. We're nowhere near having this as our reality here.

This is even more of a reason for me to not pursue this hobby in Ohio. First it was the quality being the worst I've encountered anywhere, and now it's all of these dumbass laws that have us regressing as a state.

Not sure if I can say this but I always find it funny when people come on this site complaining about liberals.

Budd2
05-06-21, 08:25
Just have to be very careful when you're discussing activities. If an ad has pricing in it and is a sting they will claim that paying for sex is inferred by the fact that you answered the ad. Remember the wording of the damn law.

CheechMy recent post on Akron board.


I've been using text now & text free. It's ok for remaining anonymous from providers, scammers, pimps, but I just learned irrelevant from LEO. With the new laws and aggressive enforcement I wouldn't be surprised if future stings will not even have a physical location, or arrest. They will just send a letter for a court appearance to everyone who responds to their ad. Even if your response is just "hey" it will be enough. Soon we're going to have judges that will consider the act of just responding to an ad as solicitation even if nothing incriminating is said. Its only going to get worse. I need to get a burner phone. I also will only have it on when I'm far away from home and none of my other devices with me. Only pay with cash for it. With that said, where is the best place to get a burner phone?

Cheech1
05-08-21, 06:15
I agree with Budd on the burner phone, paid in cash. Of course, sooner or later they will make those phones illegal also, as our right to privacy is slowly eroded by the buffoons in congress.

Cheech.

Chunks92
05-08-21, 11:39
I agree with Budd on the burner phone, paid in cash. Of course, sooner or later they will make those phones illegal also, as our right to privacy is slowly eroded by the buffoons in congress.

Cheech.I agree with him and you as well on most of it but I don't believe that it will get to the point where saying "hey" will result in an arrest. They still have to have evidence on who exactly sent the message and there is still nothing illegal about meeting, getting dinner, and talking etc. Think about it, just because a site may be used for this and that, doesn't mean that some don't use the site for dating as well. However I do agree that no matter if you show up to their hotel room or house even if you decide to leave and don't make an agreement, they still are going to arrest you and try to get you to talk. Youll get a plea bargain, but youll still have to go through the legal system. They are getting too much money in funding to not just arrest every guy that shows up no matter what their intent. Thats why it would be smart to meet at a restaurant, bar, or even gas station. It takes many many resources just to get those guys that show up, its much harder to set it up and a lot more paperwork for them to meet up and sit through a dinner and drink date.

Taejin36
05-08-21, 13:38
I agree with him and you as well on most of it but I don't believe that it will get to the point where saying "hey" will result in an arrest. They still have to have evidence on who exactly sent the message and there is still nothing illegal about meeting, getting dinner, and talking etc. Think about it, just because a site may be used for this and that, doesn't mean that some don't use the site for dating as well. However I do agree that no matter if you show up to their hotel room or house even if you decide to leave and don't make an agreement, they still are going to arrest you and try to get you to talk. Youll get a plea bargain, but youll still have to go through the legal system. They are getting too much money in funding to not just arrest every guy that shows up no matter what their intent. Thats why it would be smart to meet at a restaurant, bar, or even gas station. It takes many many resources just to get those guys that show up, its much harder to set it up and a lot more paperwork for them to meet up and sit through a dinner and drink date.Bear in mind everyone, while a charge against you may be weak and not stick, and the Prosecutor won't even devote 5 minutes to it before throwing it away for lack of evidence, all while you technically did nothing wrong and covering your bases in what you say and type. You can easily be arrested in one of these targeted enforcements for a b. S charge. And they fully know the charges will not stick, but. You will be arrested and publicly humiliated. Subsequently, your life long "charge" will amount to. Your name and mugshot in the newspaper, social media, Google searches, and whatever other public forum is available for all of your family, friends, co-workers, employers, enemies, future girlfriends, etc. To see and cause you anguish for the rest of your life. Ask yourself, what's worse. A $500 misdemeanor fine, or, a news story on your name that said you went to seeking.com. , STG, etc. And was meeting someone for "drinks" and got arrested. All they need is a public humiliation to serve as a deterrent to other men.

Cheech1
05-09-21, 08:42
I agree that a lot of guys can't take the heat. That's a problem, but that's always been a problem. The issue here is that they changed the law to make it a crime to "infer" that one is paying money for sex. See my post #114, this section. Of course, many guys take a girl out on a date, buy her dinner, drinks, a night out, and then get laid. This is not considered "paying" for sex, it seems that indirect payments are legal, LOL, presumably because the society wants that to lead to marriage, monogamy, and the control of men thru the availability of sex.

What we need to do is find ways to make sure that if we do get busted, we can quash the case. We all understand that if your wife sees your mug on the TV your goose is cooked, regardless of weather you got convicted or not. That's why its necessary to cover your ass so well that even if you get caught up they won't bring a case because there is NO evidence. The last thing they want is lawsuits brought against them for violating your rights, false arrest, and so on.

Cheech

Francis123
05-09-21, 20:57
I agree that a lot of guys can't take the heat. That's a problem, but that's always been a problem. The issue here is that they changed the law to make it a crime to "infer" that one is paying money for sex. See my post #114, this section. Cheech, I looked around on House Bill 431 and I don't think it makes the changes you're saying. I'm not a lawyer and I want to state clearly I could be wrong about some or all of this. This is just what I think is going on. And I don't know how to post about this without going long, so forgive me! Went down a rabbit hole. LOL.

The language "implicit or explicit agreement" was already in the law, but under the solicitation statute. For example, this attorney was going over that same language in 2016: https://barrjoneslegal.com/understanding-prostitution-solicitation/.

But under that it was a Third Degree Misdemeanor. Under the new law they can sometimes charge a First Degree Misdemeanor. Here's the Attorney General's statement: "The bill also separates the existing soliciting violation, creating a new provision for the buyers of sex with enhanced penalties. " https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Media/News-Releases/December-2020/Ohio-Attorney-General-Yost-s-Statement-on-the-Pass.

From an article about the new law being enforced: "Yost said that with this operation, for the first time in Ohio, some of those seeking to pay for sex were charged with engaging in prostitution, a misdemeanor of the first degree. This charge was created under House Bill 431. " https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2021/04/16/ohio-attorney-general-columbus-suburban-police-tackle-human-trafficking-prostitution/7203508002/.

My interpretation is that now sometimes a John can be charged with engaging in prostitution, not just solicitation, and might face a higher level misdemeanor. And in addition to a higher penalty, they can force you into an education and treatment program. I'm not sure what facts have to take place to be charged with Engaging in Prostitution as opposed to Solicitation.

Under the Solicitation statute it says: "No person shall knowingly solicit another to engage in sexual activity for hire in exchange for the person receiving anything of value from the other person. " https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-2907.24.

Under the Engaging in Prostitution statute it says: "No person shall recklessly induce, entice, or procure another to engage in sexual activity for hire in exchange for the person giving anything of value to the other person". https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-2907.231.

You'll have to figure out the differences for yourselves, but apparently some Johns can wind up charged with 2907.24 and some with 2907.231, whereas before they all would've been charged with just solicitation.

As to what constitutes an "implicit agreement" -- my assumption is that will be the same as before, as that language was already in there. To find that out, you'd have to talk to a lawyer or read a lot of Ohio cases and see how they interpret it. My advice, as always, is to be careful about incriminating words or actions until you're 100% that everything is safe. And now that becomes more important, as some words or actions can bump you up to a higher level charge, and one that looks a bit more embarrassing on your record.

Budd2
05-09-21, 21:07
I agree that a lot of guys can't take the heat. That's a problem, but that's always been a problem. The issue here is that they changed the law to make it a crime to "infer" that one is paying money for sex. See my post #114, this section.

Cheech"Infer" is an ambiguous term that basically gives LEO card blanche to do what they want. I'm getting old, might be time to give up chasing hookers in Ohio. Taking trips to Canada after this Covid nonsense is over is my plan

Cheech1
05-10-21, 07:05
Canada is a good choice.

Cheech.

ThrobbinWood
05-10-21, 08:13
"Infer" is an ambiguous term that basically gives LEO card blanche to do what they want. I'm getting old, might be time to give up chasing hookers in Ohio. Taking trips to Canada after this Covid nonsense is over is my planAnother choice for some might be Ann Arbor Mi. And now some areas in Detroit where the prosecutors have declined to prosecute sex between two willing parties, paid or not.

Chunks92
05-10-21, 08:55
"Infer" is an ambiguous term that basically gives LEO card blanche to do what they want. I'm getting old, might be time to give up chasing hookers in Ohio. Taking trips to Canada after this Covid nonsense is over is my planYou know if you think about it, they could arrest every couple in the state accusing them of having some agreement in place and make them prove otherwise! They could probably arrest all of America under that statute. Every man in a relationship in western society is a john in some way shape or form, its just a matter of how transactional it is. Gestapo is an understatement, and the general public for actually believing their bullshit is a bigger problem then the gestapo themselves. On a side note, I am considering retirement in OH as well, in addition to Canada, here is an interesting article as well, only a few hours away https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2021/01/consensual-sex-work-decriminalized-in-washtenaw-county-following-policy-change.html.

BuckeyeGuy2
05-13-21, 23:52
https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2021/05/cleveland-area-massage-therapist-calls-idea-she-preyed-on-ohio-state-football-players-ridiculous.html

Mantenomo
05-15-21, 21:24
You know if you think about it, they could arrest every couple in the state accusing them of having some agreement in place and make them prove otherwise! They could probably arrest all of America under that statute. Every man in a relationship in western society is a john in some way shape or form, its just a matter of how transactional it is. Gestapo is an understatement, and the general public for actually believing their bullshit is a bigger problem then the gestapo themselves. On a side note, I am considering retirement in OH as well, in addition to Canada, here is an interesting article as well, only a few hours away https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2021/01/consensual-sex-work-decriminalized-in-washtenaw-county-following-policy-change.html.Going to pass this on.

Chunks92
05-17-21, 09:34
Bear in mind everyone, while a charge against you may be weak and not stick, and the Prosecutor won't even devote 5 minutes to it before throwing it away for lack of evidence, all while you technically did nothing wrong and covering your bases in what you say and type. You can easily be arrested in one of these targeted enforcements for a b. S charge. And they fully know the charges will not stick, but. You will be arrested and publicly humiliated. Subsequently, your life long "charge" will amount to. Your name and mugshot in the newspaper, social media, Google searches, and whatever other public forum is available for all of your family, friends, co-workers, employers, enemies, future girlfriends, etc. To see and cause you anguish for the rest of your life. Ask yourself, what's worse. A $500 misdemeanor fine, or, a news story on your name that said you went to seeking.com. , STG, etc. And was meeting someone for "drinks" and got arrested. All they need is a public humiliation to serve as a deterrent to other men.Yea I personally wouldn't really care. What matters is what the result is in court. If my job fired me and I was found innocent or reduced I would have a hell of a lawsuit and could live off the dole for a while. Arrest me for meeting a woman at a gas station or bar for drinks? Good luck to them. If it got brought up in a job interview I have a way with words and can definitely talk my way into a job after I explain about how I was wrongfully arrested for taking a woman to a restaurant for drinks and dinner. For the guys who have never done this before and are married? Or give a shit what peoples opinion of them is? Yea theyd be pissing their pants. But most of them walk right into the pigs operation not suspecting a thing. But guys like myself weve been preparing for that moment for many many years, I expect to have cuffs slapped on me even if I'm going to see a woman I've seen before for years. Therefore I take precautions, such as locking my wallet in my glove compartment / leaving it at home and only taking what I'm prepared to lose and my DL. When you go into it with that mentality, do some research, and take precautions, your odds go down significantly. That being said I've been mongering less ever since the law changed, I was mongering as much as I could right before the statute took effect in April haha. I do want to see the case results of the recent Akron sting before I consider anything else to see if reduced charges will still be a thing.

Retirement still seems on the horizon anyway in OH, the bigger deterrent for me is just how dry its been out there, only women that are decent looking are set ups and robberies it seems. I'm looking to take trips to other states at this point where the laws are becoming more lax or Vegas for that matter.

HungryEye
05-27-21, 09:52
31 Northeast Ohio residents arrested between May 18 and May 22.

https://www.morningjournal.com/news/crime/lorain-county-residents-arrested-in-undercover-sex-crimes-operation/article_b7fb2fa0-be5d-11eb-a876-4f5f66b95ee5.html

Lets be careful out there.

Cleveland Report
05-27-21, 11:50
If the cops left a bag of money next to the sidewalk they could probably catch many bad people who pick it up and keep walking. This could serve as a public service.


31 Northeast Ohio residents arrested between May 18 and May 22.

https://www.morningjournal.com/news/crime/lorain-county-residents-arrested-in-undercover-sex-crimes-operation/article_b7fb2fa0-be5d-11eb-a876-4f5f66b95ee5.html

Lets be careful out there.

Gary Ridgeway
05-27-21, 12:16
They were arrested for attempting to engage with subjects under 18. I applaud uncle's effort. If you are engaging kids, I hope you are not " careful" I hope you get caught.

YTowner1
05-27-21, 12:28
31 Northeast Ohio residents arrested between May 18 and May 22.

https://www.morningjournal.com/news/crime/lorain-county-residents-arrested-in-undercover-sex-crimes-operation/article_b7fb2fa0-be5d-11eb-a876-4f5f66b95ee5.html

Lets be careful out there.The article says the men planned meets with them knowing they were underage (children). If that is the case, they get what they deserve.

BobWilliams696
05-27-21, 15:15
31 Northeast Ohio residents arrested between May 18 and May 22.

https://www.morningjournal.com/news/crime/lorain-county-residents-arrested-in-undercover-sex-crimes-operation/article_b7fb2fa0-be5d-11eb-a876-4f5f66b95ee5.html

Lets be careful out there.Or. You know, don't be a creep and try and have sex with underage children.

Chunks92
05-27-21, 21:37
31 Northeast Ohio residents arrested between May 18 and May 22.

https://www.morningjournal.com/news/crime/lorain-county-residents-arrested-in-undercover-sex-crimes-operation/article_b7fb2fa0-be5d-11eb-a876-4f5f66b95ee5.html

Lets be careful out there.LEO can run these stings all they want, these guys were sick fucks. They got what they deserve and I hope they rot in prison.

LowRider69
05-28-21, 09:15
31 Northeast Ohio residents arrested between May 18 and May 22.

https://www.morningjournal.com/news/crime/lorain-county-residents-arrested-in-undercover-sex-crimes-operation/article_b7fb2fa0-be5d-11eb-a876-4f5f66b95ee5.html

Lets be careful out there.Out of curiosity, did you read this story before posting it?

HungryEye
05-28-21, 12:44
Out of curiosity, did you read this story before posting it?Just a quick scan in what appeared to be just another sting and scoop of guys trying to get laid. As my mother would say to me as a child, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". I humbly apologize.

H.

Cheech1
05-29-21, 07:31
While I'm not going to delve into the politically correct position on what constitutes a "child" or how that definition has changed pursuant to government policy and procedure over the last 150 years, I do want to address the issue of these stings that we need to be concerned with.

The issue for us is the establishment of legal precedents that these stings by the pigs create. We should not support those actions no matter that the imaginary subject is underage because the precedents created by the successful prosecution of people caught up in them can then be extended to us seeking adult company. Just take the time in your own minds to extend those methods to affect us and you'll see what I mean.

Cheech.

FigureRingLyle
05-29-21, 08:20
They were arrested for attempting to engage with subjects under 18. I applaud uncle's effort. If you are engaging kids, I hope you are not " careful" I hope you get caught.Is this ol' Green River Gary.

Chunks92
05-29-21, 08:47
The issue for us is the establishment of legal precedents that these stings by the pigs create. We should not support those actions no matter that the imaginary subject is underage because the precedents created by the successful prosecution of people caught up in them can then be extended to us seeking adult company. Just take the time in your own minds to extend those methods to affect us and you'll see what I mean.

Cheech.I support them running stings on the bad guys like the most recent they ran. But I follow all of the stings that they run on the good guys on case search and the case results show me that wrongful arrests indeed are made. Almost all of the first Akron and Liberty sting results are in. Ill use the Liberty sting as an example. Out of the guys arrested, the only guy that has not had his case resolved and that's the guy that ran from the cops. All of them got their soliciting down to a disorderly conduct, one got their case dismissed, and one of them got a civil infraction disorderly conduct and in the court notes it said "return phone and contraband, no evidence of solicitation. " Which also remember guys, don't bring anything you don't want to lose into any meeting. The pigs will seize all your money. This is also why unless I see a rock solid review, I require meeting at a bar first. If they are going to get me they will have to work hard for it, and file hours and hours of paperwork to get me for a misdemeanor that won't even hold up in court. The good news here is that at least the judge appears to have a brain and realizes that stings on guys like us are bullshit, what adults do with each other is our business. On the flip side of that though, the pigs still made the wrongful arrest based on assumption and caused that poor bastard to have his mugshot posted and half a year of going through the legal system over misdemeanors that he didn't even commit. I know many of you probably know but for all who don't know, this is all public information and you don't need any accounts to look it up, just search the offenders names on case search in the area the stings occurred. Alot can be learned by looking up case results and watching news videos on the pigs performing their operations.

Metal134
05-29-21, 10:49
While I'm not going to delve into the politically correct position on what constitutes a "child" or how that definition has changed pursuant to government policy and procedure over the last 150 years, I do want to address the issue of these stings that we need to be concerned with.

The issue for us is the establishment of legal precedents that these stings by the pigs create. We should not support those actions no matter that the imaginary subject is underage because the precedents created by the successful prosecution of people caught up in them can then be extended to us seeking adult company. Just take the time in your own minds to extend those methods to affect us and you'll see what I mean.

Cheech.I don't support your position whatsoever. I adamantly reject it.

Valdez
06-19-21, 11:43
While I'm not going to delve into the politically correct position on what constitutes a "child" or how that definition has changed pursuant to government policy and procedure over the last 150 years, I do want to address the issue of these stings that we need to be concerned with.

The issue for us is the establishment of legal precedents that these stings by the pigs create. We should not support those actions no matter that the imaginary subject is underage because the precedents created by the successful prosecution of people caught up in them can then be extended to us seeking adult company. Just take the time in your own minds to extend those methods to affect us and you'll see what I mean.

Cheech.Cheech,

I have no problem with our government protecting people under 18 from making bad choices such as smoking, drinking, getting a tattoo, or selling their own body. I also have no bone to pick with the police that enforce the laws on the books, some of which I disagree with. The guys we send to Columbus are the guys I blame.

Look at how long it took to get a Casino in Ohio. Look at how long it took to get medical Marijuana. We send them to Columbus to create, modify, or delete laws. They are responsible for offenses such as soliciting. If we want a change from the police we must get the laws changed. Change the laws and the police will be your best friends and will deter thefts and scams that happen all to frequently now. The girls would also be able to call the police if they are assaulted or scammed in some way. Think about it. The police do not make those laws.

Cleve Loser
06-19-21, 11:59
They were arrested for attempting to engage with subjects under 18. I applaud uncle's effort. If you are engaging kids, I hope you are not " careful" I hope you get caught.This is not a full description. There was no indication the subjects were under 18 until AFTER the monger reached out.

Cleve Loser
06-19-21, 12:01
If the cops left a bag of money next to the sidewalk they could probably catch many bad people who pick it up and keep walking. This could serve as a public service.The cops often leave nice cars running with the keys in them and the doors open or unlocked. In low income areas ofc.

They even made a TV show about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait_Car_(TV_series).

Capitalism baby!

Chunks92
06-19-21, 12:04
I also have no bone to pick with the police that enforce the laws on the books, some of which I disagree with. The guys we send to Columbus are the guys I blame.

Look at how long it took to get a Casino in Ohio. Look at how long it took to get medical Marijuana. We send them to Columbus to create, modify, or delete laws. They are responsible for offenses such as soliciting. If we want a change from the police we must get the laws changed. Change the laws and the police will be your best friends and will deter thefts and scams that happen all to frequently now. The girls would also be able to call the police if they are assaulted or scammed in some way. Think about it. The police do not make those laws.I fully support decriminalization of adult prostitution. But while things are the way they are now, how about properly enforcing the laws that are on the books instead of making wrongful arrests? Look at the results of the liberty sting, I'm not obviously going to use a name, but look up those guys records and one of the guys had their charged reduced to a civil citation disorderly conduct and in the docket it says "no evidence of sexual solicitation. " so therefore that is a wrongful arrest. Same concept as if you pass a hooker walking by on the street and say hi how are you and drive off. Nothing occurred. They make some proper arrests, but also some wrongful arrests when they post their bogus ad and they think that it is implied what the decoy is offering solely because of what the ad says and what site it is on. Which is BS because those sites can be used for adult dating as well. Just because you have a woman posted, doesn't mean I'm interested in doing anything with her unless I say so does it? I could be there to take her to a bar or even see her and not be interested and leave. But the way they have their stings set up is you're basically dead meat if you answer the add and show up to their location, unless you get out of there ASAP without saying a word. Shouldn't be any of the cops business what adults do with other adults in their free time. I think there is a huge difference if a guy shows up and texts the woman and says exactly what they are going to do as opposed to a guy who says hey lets hang out and get to know each other. Otherwise, by their logic, basically could arrest every adult couple in this state because they could "imply" that when they go out to dinner and have sex afterwards that it is "implied" that it is prostitution. I support LEO, I do NOT support bad LEO such as consenting adult prostitution stings.

Cheech1
06-20-21, 09:16
Ok, so someone said they support LEO. Blame the lawmakers for the problem. Well, he's right to a point, but we have to remember that the lawmakers make bad law and rely on LEO to enforce them. Many of the laws on the books infringe upon Liberty and Freedom. Someone mentioned supporting enforcing certain laws involving those under 18. Lets be clear, the 18 idea is a convenience for the society. At 18 you can do whatever regardless of your mental position. 17 and 364 days you're not "mature" enough to join the service and be trained to kill people, 1 more day and your ripe. In regard to exchanging money for sex, 24 hours means the difference between a little aggravation and perhaps spending years in a cell. There is no discussion of whether or not the individuals involved are mentally mature enough to engage in that activity. Another good example of this is in driving a vehicle. 16 and you take a test and good to go. How many times do we see people who are 30 and shouldn't be allowed to drive?? It's also a politically correct position for certain websites to take, after all, most countries take a rather hard line position on the issue, either on their own or under pressure from the United States.

As far as supporting LEO, you have to remember that, bottom line, they are government soldiers. They will do whatever they think they can get away with to maintain the government's position.

Cheech, out.

Customerr
08-25-21, 13:51
https://www.cleveland.com/community/2021/08/sting-operation-and-prostitution-arrest-leads-to-north-olmsted-massage-parlor-closure.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=clevelanddotcom_sf&fbclid=IwAR3BLrR9r3AVAcEevxfGJ1GlvocaP5B35-RAXsTOhaMSfmg69eisEI1GSKw

Place was in a terrible spot.

Be careful out there guys.

Jester2292
08-26-21, 09:48
Keep your eyes open brothers.

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2021/08/sting-operation-and-prostitution-arrest-leads-to-north-olmsted-massage-parlor-closure.html

Another one bites the dusty.

Ral Bos
08-26-21, 12:32
Keep your eyes open brothers.

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2021/08/sting-operation-and-prostitution-arrest-leads-to-north-olmsted-massage-parlor-closure.html

Another one bites the dusty.It will be interesting to see what happens to the "hobby" in the next few years. With marijuana becoming more and more accepted by society law enforcement agencies are spending less and less time going after drug dealers and users and, in the future if it becomes legal they won't police it at all. Which means they will have more time and resources to go after other crimes. I would predict these types of raids will become more common place after all they are rarely violent and they make for favorable publicity which the depts. Like. And as the larger operations come under increasing pressure they will of course quit further limiting options out there. I would also imagine this will lead to more pressure on independent operators as well. I wonder what it would take to decimalize sex work in the state of Ohio.

Chunks92
08-26-21, 20:13
It will be interesting to see what happens to the "hobby" in the next few years. With marijuana becoming more and more accepted by society law enforcement agencies are spending less and less time going after drug dealers and users and, in the future if it becomes legal they won't police it at all. Which means they will have more time and resources to go after other crimes. I would predict these types of raids will become more common place after all they are rarely violent and they make for favorable publicity which the depts. Like. And as the larger operations come under increasing pressure they will of course quit further limiting options out there. I would also imagine this will lead to more pressure on independent operators as well. I wonder what it would take to decimalize sex work in the state of Ohio.Marijuana has been decriminalized in ohio since before Carter was president in 1975 and the license suspension ended in June 2016. Marijuana is not the cause for this. Since 2018 ish if you have a small amount on you they either will let you keep it, crush it out, or write you a ticket which will be dismissed or reduced in court. They still charge the traffickers, and that won't change even with decriminalization of small amounts. The cause of the increase in stings is Yost's political agenda and the whole anti cop thing that has been going on that has police afraid to go after real criminals. Instead they have to sit back on the internet and let a bunch of average joes who do nothing wrong come to them so they can bust them for meeting an adult woman. Part of me hopes the violent crime keeps increasing, they aint helped my cause at all, my neighborhood is rotting away while they sit on their ass and wait to bust the hard working mailman or construction worker for trying to get a BJ.

ChristianSin
08-27-21, 20:35
Keep your eyes open brothers.

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2021/08/sting-operation-and-prostitution-arrest-leads-to-north-olmsted-massage-parlor-closure.html

Another one bites the dusty.Excerpt from the article:

"We received a complaint in April," Gareau said. "Reelax Asian Massage wasn't open three weeks before somebody reported it because they were concerned about what they saw online. It certainly led one to conclude that they were engaged in something other than medical message.

I find it interesting that "somebody reported it because they were concerned what they saw online. " I wonder what & why they were looking online and how they happened to stumble upon it and maybe it really was a disgruntled client who wanted more "service" during his session than the provider was willing to perform.

Eric 34
08-30-21, 15:09
Amherst Police Department, Cuyahoga County Human Trafficking Task Force and Lorain County Prosecutor's Office Investigative Unit conducted a joint enforcement operation focused on suspected human trafficking and prostitution activity earlier this month.

During the Aug. 19 operation, officers and investigators made contact with several males and females at 704 and. Leavitt Road, resulting in four arrests including a 36-year-old Lorain man charged with a first-degree misdemeanor count of engaging in prostitution; a 48-year-old Sheffield Lake man charged with a first-degree misdemeanor count of engaging in prostitution; and a 36-year-old Lorain man charged with a first-degree misdemeanor count of engaging in prostitution, according to a news release from Amherst police.

Thaddeus J. Salomon, 31, of Marietta, was charged with promoting prostitution, a fourth degree felony. And possessing criminal tools, a fifth-degree felony.

https://www.morningjournal.com/2021/08/30/4-arrested-in-amherst-prostitution-sting/?utm_medium=social&utm_content=fb-morningjournal&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR1XAYllZYYRtmz7A4qET_cjlxqqel6GdXy6aQusJFtaFtojLx5REt0cY-o

Rafter17
08-31-21, 08:27
Amherst Police Department, Cuyahoga County Human Trafficking Task Force and Lorain County Prosecutor's Office Investigative Unit conducted a joint enforcement operation focused on suspected human trafficking and prostitution activity earlier this month.

During the Aug. 19 operation, officers and investigators made contact with several males and females at 704 and. Leavitt Road, resulting in four arrests including a 36-year-old Lorain man charged with a first-degree misdemeanor count of engaging in prostitution; a 48-year-old Sheffield Lake man charged with a first-degree misdemeanor count of engaging in prostitution; and a 36-year-old Lorain man charged with a first-degree misdemeanor count of engaging in prostitution, according to a news release from Amherst police.

Thaddeus J. Salomon, 31, of Marietta, was charged with promoting prostitution, a fourth degree felony. And possessing criminal tools, a fifth-degree felony.

https://www.morningjournal.com/2021/08/30/4-arrested-in-amherst-prostitution-sting/?utm_medium=social&utm_content=fb-morningjournal&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR1XAYllZYYRtmz7A4qET_cjlxqqel6GdXy6aQusJFtaFtojLx5REt0cY-oThe police make a lot of trips thru the parking lot there and run plates. They have always been there a lot because of drugs and other issues. I stay away from there mainly in the past because I didn't want to get hassled for just being there. The other article I read said they used a fake ad to get guys there.

Chunks92
08-31-21, 08:46
The police make a lot of trips thru the parking lot there and run plates. They have always been there a lot because of drugs and other issues. I stay away from there mainly in the past because I didn't want to get hassled for just being there. The other article I read said they used a fake ad to get guys there.They certainly love using motel 6. Thats the second sting in NEO that I've heard of this past year using a motel 6. i did look through sumosear around that date i found no ads that looked like any sting ads.

Finish Insider
08-31-21, 21:03
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/covid-19-may-cause-erectile-dysfunction-claims-preliminary-research-4148318.html

Last Wednesday I got hit with covid. Had a bad headache, brain fog, dizziness, lethargy and felt very warm but no high fever. This went on everyday (4 days) until Sunday and now that I feel better, I start to notice when watching porn It was not getting the blood flowing. Limp dick. So, as an experiment I took a blue pill today (Tuesday) and watched some porn again. It barely helped, kinda like its up but very flexible but will go down quickly without hand stimulation. There's no feeling of blood rushing and expanding like I'm use to when taking a pill. I usually feel like it's going to burst, So this article is reinforcing what I'm experiencing. Has anyone that's reading this, tested positive for covid and having issues with libido like I am experiencing? Feel free to share because misery loves company.

AlSmits346
09-01-21, 13:59
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/covid-19-may-cause-erectile-dysfunction-claims-preliminary-research-4148318.html

Last Wednesday I got hit with covid. Had a bad headache, brain fog, dizziness, lethargy and felt very warm but no high fever. This went on everyday (4 days) until Sunday and now that I feel better, I start to notice when watching porn It was not getting the blood flowing. Limp dick. So, as an experiment I took a blue pill today (Tuesday) and watched some porn again. It barely helped, kinda like its up but very flexible but will go down quickly without hand stimulation. There's no feeling of blood rushing and expanding like I'm use to when taking a pill. I usually feel like it's going to burst, So this article is reinforcing what I'm experiencing. Has anyone that's reading this, tested positive for covid and having issues with libido like I am experiencing? Feel free to share because misery loves company.When I had covid I got lots of erections. Jerked off too. Hopefully it's temporary for you.

EmptyCup
09-05-21, 17:24
Keep your eyes open brothers.

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2021/08/sting-operation-and-prostitution-arrest-leads-to-north-olmsted-massage-parlor-closure.html

Another one bites the dusty.Looks like all they did is took pictures off their ads. Just called and they are still open. Guessing same owner as you spa in Elyria. They have no pictures up in that ad either.

SR7D1
09-06-21, 07:40
Looks like all they did is took pictures off their ads. Just called and they are still open. Guessing same owner as you spa in Elyria. They have no pictures up in that ad either.If you are referring to N. Olmsted, there were 2 in that plaza. One called Relax and the new USPA. USPA is still there and open and seems like a second location to their Elyria place.

Chunks92
10-04-21, 00:16
Yost will be announcing the results of his statewide operation tomorrow at 1000 am. Bet you that ensnared the senior member on here and several others.

Lugguy 135
10-04-21, 10:43
Columbus, Ohio — State officials have revealed details of a statewide human trafficking operation that resulted in the arrest of 161 people.

Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost offered details of the operation alongside multiple law enforcement agencies during a Monday press conference.

Yost said those arrested include a city council member, a firefighter, a teacher, a professor and a home improvement contractor. A pilot, who Yost said makes more than $200,000 a year, was also arrested.

SR7D1
10-04-21, 11:22
Columbus, Ohio State officials have revealed details of a statewide human trafficking operation that resulted in the arrest of 161 people.

Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost offered details of the operation alongside multiple law enforcement agencies during a Monday press conference.

Yost said those arrested include a city council member, a firefighter, a teacher, a professor and a home improvement contractor. A pilot, who Yost said makes more than $200,000 a year, was also arrested.Will be interesting to hear how the arrests were made. Some talk about this on the massage and escort section regarding a USAG member that was nabbed.

Lugguy 135
10-04-21, 12:14
Will be interesting to hear how the arrests were made. Some talk about this on the massage and escort section regarding a USAG member that was nabbed.10 missing children were recovered in this operation. If that senior member tried to partake in that, then he deserves what's coming.

Metloaf
10-04-21, 13:57
Columbus, Ohio State officials have revealed details of a statewide human trafficking operation that resulted in the arrest of 161 people.

Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost offered details of the operation alongside multiple law enforcement agencies during a Monday press conference.

Yost said those arrested include a city council member, a firefighter, a teacher, a professor and a home improvement contractor. A pilot, who Yost said makes more than $200,000 a year, was also arrested.So arrest the professionals and drag them through to media. Is helping stop human trafficking how? And locking a John up and no information on person they visited status or if there was a handler. Until providers get caught they play that card to get free and right back to work but the people getting all the attention lives are ruined.

Chunks92
10-04-21, 13:59
Will be interesting to hear how the arrests were made. Some talk about this on the massage and escort section regarding a USAG member that was nabbed.I listened to the whole press conference this morning while working. They only busted three sick bastards who deserved it and 158 regular guys who didn't deserve it. And then one of the sheriffs had the audacity to call guys looking for adult women "deviants. " its a fucked up world we live in with everything going on with COVID and the real crime that is out there that they decide to focus on the misdemeanor side of things rather then ramping the penalties up for the sick bastards who are out there truly causing harm. I believe Yosts heart is in the right place, but they got it all wrong with how they focused this operation. I was happy that someone brought up the question of why they still charge the women they arrest even though they refer to them as "victims". Yost had some generic response that basically dodged the question. Its going to keep getting worse in Ohio for sure.

Chunks92
10-04-21, 14:08
So arrest the professionals and drag them through to media. Is helping stop human trafficking how? And locking a John up and no information on person they visited status or if there was a handler. Until providers get caught they play that card to get free and right back to work but the people getting all the attention lives are ruined.Its really not, I would venture to say that the vast majority of the guys busted have no idea what they are doing as it pertains to the hobby. I'd venture to say for over half of them its their first time or they rarely do it. The traffickers never get arrested because these operations don't target them, just your average joes. If they really wanted to stop it they would do actual police work instead of hiding behind a computer and waiting for the average joe to come to them for an easy misdemeanor arrest. The way they do it now is essentially a huge publicity stunt, you got to feel for the majority of the unlucky bastards ensnared in it, society gained nothing from arresting the majority of them and they have to suffer for no reason.

Chunks92
10-04-21, 15:49
https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/10/04/over-160-caught-ohios-largest-human-trafficking-sting-including-arrests-portage-summit-counties/

Polishboy
10-05-21, 13:08
So arrest the professionals and drag them through to media. Is helping stop human trafficking how? And locking a John up and no information on person they visited status or if there was a handler. Until providers get caught they play that card to get free and right back to work but the people getting all the attention lives are ruined.Nice job Dave, homicides up 30%, drug overdoses at record highs, uncontrolled riots in the streets, and you go after tax paying citizens trying to get a nut. That away, Elliot Ness would be proud of you.

Navritol
10-06-21, 01:03
https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/10/04/over-160-caught-ohios-largest-human-trafficking-sting-including-arrests-portage-summit-counties/Shameful how those poor saps got whooped.

Navritol
10-06-21, 01:09
I listened to the whole press conference this morning while working. They only busted three sick bastards who deserved it and 158 regular guys who didn't deserve it. And then one of the sheriffs had the audacity to call guys looking for adult women "deviants. " its a fucked up world we live in with everything going on with COVID and the real crime that is out there that they decide to focus on the misdemeanor side of things rather then ramping the penalties up for the sick bastards who are out there truly causing harm. I believe Yosts heart is in the right place, but they got it all wrong with how they focused this operation. I was happy that someone brought up the question of why they still charge the women they arrest even though they refer to them as "victims". Yost had some generic response that basically dodged the question. Its going to keep getting worse in Ohio for sure.Ohio is always on the downside of everything.

Chunks92
10-17-21, 23:52
Anyone notice the social media comments ever since they re branded prostitution as "human trafficking?" I hate politicians but this guy is an exception, check out that Elyria councilman's facebook and the Cleveland news reports, there are random dudes accusing him of being a scumbag when in reality he was looking for an adult. If I was him I would sue the fuck out of not only them, but the police and news as well for the headlines making johns look like scumbags when in reality they are not. Too bad he was a dumbass and made statements to the police, he really could have made a difference in getting the cops to practice proper arrests and the news to publish proper headlines. I'm all for them going after actual scumbags, but this whole movement of not separating the johns from the scumbags in the news articles is asinine. there needs to be two separate articles whenever they do these operations, an article for what the johns did, and an article for the scumbags. and what these dumbasses on social media don't realize is that they have better odds of being arrested for seeing an adult hooker than veterans of this site. and then they themselves would be accused of being a scumbag because the headline reads "human trafficking." They don't read the fucking articles and educate themselves.

SlickMutha
11-29-21, 13:12
Any one heard anything about beauty I was looking for information but have been unable to find anything. Thanks be safe.Is this article about Beauty?

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2021/11/tip-leads-to-prostitution-arrest-north-olmsted-police-blotter.html

ScienceFair
11-29-21, 13:22
Is this article about Beauty?

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2021/11/tip-leads-to-prostitution-arrest-north-olmsted-police-blotter.htmlGlad the police resources were used to keep us all safe. What a joke.

Chunks92
11-29-21, 14:18
Is this article about Beauty?

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2021/11/tip-leads-to-prostitution-arrest-north-olmsted-police-blotter.htmlThe guy who told on himself is lucky he didn't get charged. If that was Austintown or Independence hed have been charged, both of those places charged the guys with stuff when they called for help when the women robbed the guy. He is very very lucky. Can't see how that would hold up in court either unless she spilled the beans.

Tonto Monger
11-29-21, 14:23
Is this article about Beauty?

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2021/11/tip-leads-to-prostitution-arrest-north-olmsted-police-blotter.html
Glad the police resources were used to keep us all safe. What a joke.From the news article:

Officers spotted a man coming out of the suspect's room Nov. 10 and stopped him for a lane-change violation on Lorain Road. The man said he had been seeing the woman on a regular basis for about five years and paid for sexual favors.

Very similar to the tactics they used in the Robert Kraft case. All the guy had to do was keep his mouth shut and take the traffic ticket. Remember- nobody talks, everybody walks.

Smith5494
11-29-21, 17:54
Glad the police resources were used to keep us all safe. What a joke.I will definitely be sleeping better tonight knowing our streets are rid of this dangerous criminals. LMFAO!

Cleve Loser
11-29-21, 21:29
From the news article:

Officers spotted a man coming out of the suspect's room Nov. 10 and stopped him for a lane-change violation on Lorain Road. The man said he had been seeing the woman on a regular basis for about five years and paid for sexual favors.

Very similar to the tactics they used in the Robert Kraft case. All the guy had to do was keep his mouth shut and take the traffic ticket. Remember- nobody talks, everybody walks.From the article.


"The tipster thought the woman’s repeat visits were particularly unusual because she lives in the area."Almost certainly a jealous "friend" or someone she effed over. And no, I have never seen her or know anything about her. I just don't think people tip off cops for no reason. I guess another possibility is they could be lying.

Rafter17
11-30-21, 09:15
From the news article:

Officers spotted a man coming out of the suspect's room Nov. 10 and stopped him for a lane-change violation on Lorain Road. The man said he had been seeing the woman on a regular basis for about five years and paid for sexual favors.

Very similar to the tactics they used in the Robert Kraft case. All the guy had to do was keep his mouth shut and take the traffic ticket. Remember- nobody talks, everybody walks.I've never been there before, but isn't the room access from inside the building? Somebody would have to be watching the room from another room or the cctv to see which room someone came from.

SimpSince1991
11-30-21, 09:46
Any in call location can get hot quick, mad dealer, mad John, a bored or alert hotel clerk. Most hotels will refuse or look at you very carefully if you live close. I am not sure (ok I know they can't) trespass from every hotel in City. I agree Mr lane change should have remained silent. But I have zero problems with the police, they responded to a call, investigated a crime and made a arrest. This hobby is illegal in most states, that's just the breaks.

Chunks92
11-30-21, 15:00
Any in call location can get hot quick, mad dealer, mad John, a bored or alert hotel clerk. Most hotels will refuse or look at you very carefully if you live close. I am not sure (ok I know they can't) trespass from every hotel in City. I agree Mr lane change should have remained silent. But I have zero problems with the police, they responded to a call, investigated a crime and made a arrest. This hobby is illegal in most states, that's just the breaks.Here's the reason I have a problem with police enforcing this law Simp, it is a method to control the public. If it wasnt, theyd focus their efforts on getting actual evil traffickers rather then arresting 160 johns and calling them "traffickers. " look at the poor bastard councilman from Elyria's facebook. This poor guy is made out to be something hes not because the headlines read "human trafficking. " he wasnt even charged under the new law, he got off with only a 3rd degree misdemeanor soliciting and no criminal tools charge which will be reduced very rapidly in court. First what theyre going to do is you can't meet a woman, next theyre going to arrest you for making a call and asking about rates, next step after that, theyre going to require a cop to accompany you on a date with a woman for the first few months to make sure that you won't be exchanging anything. Its a restriction of our freedoms, that's why we must fight back before it gets worse.

C92.

StoneFree
12-02-21, 10:33
Would be pretty easy to monitor if they give the guest a room near an elevator, where you typically might find a camera.


I've never been there before, but isn't the room access from inside the building? Somebody would have to be watching the room from another room or the cctv to see which room someone came from.

BuckeyeGuy2
12-05-21, 01:26
https://www.cleveland.com/crime/2021/12/former-elyria-city-councilman-pleads-no-contest-to-solicitation-charge-from-statewide-prostitution-sting.html

40 hours community service & $250 fine. Wonder if he is still married?

Chunks92
12-05-21, 11:43
https://www.cleveland.com/crime/2021/12/former-elyria-city-councilman-pleads-no-contest-to-solicitation-charge-from-statewide-prostitution-sting.html

40 hours community service & $250 fine. Wonder if he is still married?If I were him I woulda fought it to a plea, guy probably talked to the police though, would imagine he didn't know any better.

Fuzzyek
12-05-21, 14:37
If I were him I woulda fought it to a plea, guy probably talked to the police though, would imagine he didn't know any better.The guy might have been an a-hole anyway, from what I heard he was going for 60 bucks worth of sex. I don't think you could get much of an incall for that price.

Asmoth
12-05-21, 16:08
If I were him I woulda fought it to a plea, guy probably talked to the police though, would imagine he didn't know any better.Buddy of mine who works with the agency that got him basically said this is what happened.

They threatened him with arrest and towing his car, he folded like a deck of playing cards.

People need to learn that they just need to keep their mouths shut and they will be fine.

Chunks92
12-05-21, 16:36
Buddy of mine who works with the agency that got him basically said this is what happened.

They threatened him with arrest and towing his car, he folded like a deck of playing cards.

People need to learn that they just need to keep their mouths shut and they will be fine.Yea the guys they get the vast majority probably never have any experience with the legal system whatsoever. He wasnt even under arrest probably detained when they told him that and he caved. I'm sure if I was married I'd probably be shitting my pants as well, but not enough to just let all logic go out the window. Key word here is "threaten with arrest. " like man, if you're being threatened with arrest, its a clear indication that you're not under arrest and you probably should be asking if you can leave or speak to an attorney! No common sense by that guy. Absolutely spot on on this Asmoth and thanks for the info.

I too have a friend of a friend that works for the task force, I thought initially they arrested immediately with no evidence but that's actually false, they will arrest immediately if the text thread is incriminating but if the thread is not incriminating they just detain the guys and hope that they talk, because they know the vast majority of the guys who show up are going to be so off guard that they tell why they are there. Then you have guys like myself that walk into every scenario pretending I'm on recording in case it is a sting, were always prepared. They know were too tough to get that's why they focus on the weak minded.

BuckeyeGuy2
12-05-21, 20:02
He sang like a canary the day they detained him according to the original article that was posted: "Jessie agreed to speak with detectives without having an attorney present. He admitted he came to the meeting to solicit sex for money, the police report says".


If I were him I woulda fought it to a plea, guy probably talked to the police though, would imagine he didn't know any better.

Chunks92
12-06-21, 00:01
Buddy of mine who works with the agency that got him basically said this is what happened.

They threatened him with arrest and towing his car, he folded like a deck of playing cards.

People need to learn that they just need to keep their mouths shut and they will be fine.Did they run this sting out of an apartment complex? I checked the auditors site doesn't look like they used a land bank owned sting house. Based on my research only addresses in the 300 block of washington ave it could have been were a private citizen owned home and a bunch of apartments. Would be good knowledge for all of us going forward if you know. Thanks brother.

BuckeyeGuy2
12-06-21, 01:18
I think we all agree that if LE detains you do not say anything without legal council. Miranda rights say: "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in court. You have the right to talk to a lawyer for advice before we ask you any questions. You have the right to have a lawyer with you during questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be appointed for you before any questioning if you wish. If you decide to answer questions now without a lawyer present, you have the right to stop answering at any time".

Which brings me to a bigger question. Does anyone have any experience with legal council that they can recommend if any of us ever get busted? Would not be a bad idea to have an attorney's contact information in your phone if something ever goes wrong during an encounter.

Anyone got a recommendation? Also what was the cost?


If I were him I woulda fought it to a plea, guy probably talked to the police though, would imagine he didn't know any better.

Rafter17
12-06-21, 09:26
Did they run this sting out of an apartment complex? I checked the auditors site doesn't look like they used a land bank owned sting house. Based on my research only addresses in the 300 block of washington ave it could have been were a private citizen owned home and a bunch of apartments. Would be good knowledge for all of us going forward if you know. Thanks brother.I had answered the ad that I believe they were using. I passed because the messages were sounding a little off and I was already busy when they said they could see me. I was given an address for an apartment building and that's where the I later saw that the busts were taking place. I figure I dodged one by intuition and being busy. My lucky day.

One Good Tug
12-06-21, 10:44
In short -- you need a criminal defense attorney in this situation. Technically / legally speaking, you don't "have a lawyer" until you retrain (pay for) one. I highly doubt anyone here would be involved in so much shit that you have a criminal defense lawyer on a paid monthly retainer just in case you get into trouble. You may have a firm on retainer for other issues and they may subcontract with a criminal defense attorney if needed but I don't know much about that.

If this happens to you and you (absolutely should) invoke your 5th amendment rights, you don't need to "have" an attorney or even know one. You can still be provided with a public defender free of charge. Even if it is to just help get you out on bail until you can call someone else. To clarify, if things get to this point, you will be arrested and charged. Its just a matter of A) are you going to be held in custody for a few hours to get things sorted out or B) are you going to give yourself up, still be arrested, but released right then and there. The councilperson went with option B.

LE uses the perceived complexity of the legal system against you. Don't let them, ever.

I am NOT an expert in this crap -- so others who know better, please correct me.


I think we all agree that if LE detains you do not say anything without legal council. Miranda rights say: "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in court. You have the right to talk to a lawyer for advice before we ask you any questions. You have the right to have a lawyer with you during questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be appointed for you before any questioning if you wish. If you decide to answer questions now without a lawyer present, you have the right to stop answering at any time".

Which brings me to a bigger question. Does anyone have any experience with legal council that they can recommend if any of us ever get busted? Would not be a bad idea to have an attorney's contact information in your phone if something ever goes wrong during an encounter.

Anyone got a recommendation? Also what was the cost?

Chunks92
12-06-21, 13:00
I had answered the ad that I believe they were using. I passed because the messages were sounding a little off and I was already busy when they said they could see me. I was given an address for an apartment building and that's where the I later saw that the busts were taking place. I figure I dodged one by intuition and being busy. My lucky day.Thanks brother, that's what I thought. Also to save yourself headaches in the future revealname. Com if you search the number in there it probably would have come up as VOIP. The task forces use VOIP because they text you off their computers. Also the sting ads won't have any intel if you google the number because there probably were no previous ads for them and if they were they were used a significant amount of time in the past. I know you're a vet just providing more methods for us to dodge them even before we reach out to the ad. Thanks again for the info brother!

AsianBlowjob
12-06-21, 14:24
From the news article:

Officers spotted a man coming out of the suspect's room Nov. 10 and stopped him for a lane-change violation on Lorain Road. The man said he had been seeing the woman on a regular basis for about five years and paid for sexual favors.

Very similar to the tactics they used in the Robert Kraft case. All the guy had to do was keep his mouth shut and take the traffic ticket. Remember- nobody talks, everybody walks.Not to disagree with the meat and potatoes of your post, but Bob and his driver were not ticketed. They were warned to drive safer.

They had Bobby on camera getting blown by a 60+ year old Asian. They also had an illegal warrant to place the camera in the room. The traffic stop was just to confirm what they already knew in terms of names and who to arrest when the time came.

Tl: dr.

He was caught on camera getting a beejay. He was pulled over for some BS traffic stop. He kept his mouth shut, had the $$ to defend himself, and won.

Cheech1
12-07-21, 06:57
Everyone should have a lawyer. They don't have to be "On retainer," but its a good idea if possible for you to find a lawyer that you would want to use, then look around in your life for some situation however small that you would like legal advice for, even if its something like a neighbors tree hanging over your fence, or any potential problem. Just something that you could talk to the guy, or better yet woman, and pay them for their time. This could cost $150.00 for a half hour cup of coffee. Pay them in cash.

I say this because you are now a paying client of an attorney, and, more importantly, they have met you so know who you are and you HAVE PAID them. This is very important if you want to have serious legal representation available because a lawyer knows that if they don't get paid up front then they have to collect, and if they lose a case and their client goes to the joint they won't get paid because the client is in the joint. So if you were willing to pay them for a little advice, and they like cash, you now have street cred.

Also, although I will say that my attorney is Rick Perez in Lake county, who is the former partner of the Lake county prosecutor and is very well connected, having a woman for your attorney works in your favor because a really good female attorney is a bulldog and will generally fight like hell in these kinds of cases because she doesn't want to be perceived as not being zealous because of the situation.

Cheech.

Chunks92
12-07-21, 10:15
Everyone should have a lawyer. They don't have to be "On retainer," but its a good idea if possible for you to find a lawyer that you would want to use, then look around in your life for some situation however small that you would like legal advice for, even if its something like a neighbors tree hanging over your fence, or any potential problem. Just something that you could talk to the guy, or better yet woman, and pay them for their time. This could cost $150.00 for a half hour cup of coffee. Pay them in cash.

I say this because you are now a paying client of an attorney, and, more importantly, they have met you so know who you are and you HAVE PAID them. This is very important if you want to have serious legal representation available because a lawyer knows that if they don't get paid up front then they have to collect, and if they lose a case and their client goes to the joint they won't get paid because the client is in the joint. So if you were willing to pay them for a little advice, and they like cash, you now have street cred.

Also, although I will say that my attorney is Rick Perez in Lake county, who is the former partner of the Lake county prosecutor and is very well connected, having a woman for your attorney works in your favor because a really good female attorney is a bulldog and will generally fight like hell in these kinds of cases because she doesn't want to be perceived as not being zealous because of the situation.

Cheech.So its interesting that you say that, i have a few attorneys in mind who i would call in a pinch that i know i could get something reduced for sure, but I have been on the fence about having that conversation with an excellent woman attorney in my area. I've actually wondered if that would be beneficial or not, I know that not all attorneys are ethical. I've always thought it could go either way as far as having a female attorney goes in this type of situation in an extreme way, either A: she's going to think you're a creep or a pig for getting wrapped up in this type of case and sabotage you, or B: she's going to realize Dave Yost and the gestapo are infringing on women's rights by setting these stings up in the first place and fight for you to get a dismissal. I know that all attorneys "should zealously defend their client in a court of law," but if you've ever watched the movies you know that isn't true. I might give it a shot and talk to her soon and try to get a read on her take of the whole situation of these stings, appreciate this post.

if you Cheech or anyone has additional input on this definitely interested in ideas.

Cheech1
12-08-21, 07:19
We should have significant discussion on the matter, among us. Also, we should move this discussion to the legal thread.

Cheech.

RickMann
12-08-21, 07:36
So its interesting that you say that, i have a few attorneys in mind who i would call in a pinch that i know i could get something reduced for sure, but I have been on the fence about having that conversation with an excellent woman attorney in my area. I've actually wondered if that would be beneficial or not, I know that not all attorneys are ethical. I've always thought it could go either way as far as having a female attorney goes in this type of situation in an extreme way, either A: she's going to think you're a creep or a pig for getting wrapped up in this type of case and sabotage you, or B: she's going to realize Dave Yost and the gestapo are infringing on women's rights by setting these stings up in the first place and fight for you to get a dismissal. I know that all attorneys "should zealously defend their client in a court of law," but if you've ever watched the movies you know that isn't true. I might give it a shot and talk to her soon and try to get a read on her take of the whole situation of these stings, appreciate this post.

if you Cheech or anyone has additional input on this definitely interested in ideas.I was being questioned one time and I said my attorney told me not to say anything. The cop said who's your attorney? I gave him my CPA's name who was at the time an attorney and it shut him up LOL.

Chunks92
12-08-21, 13:47
I was being questioned one time and I said my attorney told me not to say anything. The cop said who's your attorney? I gave him my CPA's name who was at the time an attorney and it shut him up LOL.I have a decent attorney as well but not sure how versed he is in this type of thing. I'm going to start a thread on Cheech's legal board when I get the time to type it up.

Asmoth
12-08-21, 14:47
As a guy who's had multiple run ins with cops in this hobby I can tell you with 💯% certainty.

If you get to the needing an attorney as more than just an excuse to not talk to the cops point, you've probably already incriminated yourself.

My longest detainment was 72 hours over twenty years ago and I actually sued afterward and won some money from the police department in a settlement from it.

They busted in on a room through an anointing hotel room, where you can walk through to the other room in like a closet door at a motel as I was getting undressed.

Tried to get me to admit I was there for solicitation and I just calmly put my clothes back on and told them I don't speak to police and asked if I could go.

They told me no and handcuffed me and tried all the tricks, we will tow your car, we will arrest you, we will call our job etc etc.

I just sat there handcuffed on a hotel bed, telling them I don't speak with law enforcement and asked how long I would be detained which just pissed them off.

The cops had a camera hidden in the room I later found out in the case I sued them for as it came up in discovery so it captured them ignoring my attempts to remain silent and trying to coerce me into talking.

They then transported me to the local PD and kept me in an interrogation room for a few hours then housed me in the holding cell while I texted and called my job to tell them some personal matters came up and I couldn't come in for up to three days. (Knowing they couldn't hold me longer without charging me) my job was pissed but didn't fire me because I technically called off.

Then let my family know where I was and all that and essentially just kept denying to talk to them about the case while they fed me Burger King and let me stay in the jail.

On the third day, I was woke up and told to gather my shit and come with the cop, I did and they threw me back my coat and my keys to my care and told me I was free to go, so I took a cab back to the motel, grabbed my car and drove home with no charges to my name.

The part that most people fuck up is they are weak and bend to the intimidation of the cops and self incriminate.

Don't be a pussy and shut your mouth, you'll walk away every time.

Valdez
01-07-22, 13:30
As a guy who's had multiple run ins with cops in this hobby I can tell you with 💯% certainty.

If you get to the needing an attorney as more than just an excuse to not talk to the cops point, you've probably already incriminated yourself.

My longest detainment was 72 hours over twenty years ago and I actually sued afterward and won some money from the police department in a settlement from it.

They busted in on a room through an anointing hotel room, where you can walk through to the other room in like a closet door at a motel as I was getting undressed.

Tried to get me to admit I was there for solicitation and I just calmly put my clothes back on and told them I don't speak to police and asked if I could go.

They told me no and handcuffed me and tried all the tricks, we will tow your car, we will arrest you, we will call our job etc etc.

I just sat there handcuffed on a hotel bed, telling them I don't speak with law enforcement and asked how long I would be detained which just pissed them off.

The cops had a camera hidden in the room I later found out in the case I sued them for as it came up in discovery so it captured them ignoring my attempts to remain silent and trying to coerce me into talking.

They then transported me to the local PD and kept me in an interrogation room for a few hours then housed me in the holding cell while I texted and called my job to tell them some personal matters came up and I couldn't come in for up to three days. (Knowing they couldn't hold me longer without charging me) my job was pissed but didn't fire me because I technically called off.

Then let my family know where I was and all that and essentially just kept denying to talk to them about the case while they fed me Burger King and let me stay in the jail.

On the third day, I was woke up and told to gather my shit and come with the cop, I did and they threw me back my coat and my keys to my care and told me I was free to go, so I took a cab back to the motel, grabbed my car and drove home with no charges to my name.

The part that most people fuck up is they are weak and bend to the intimidation of the cops and self incriminate.

Don't be a pussy and shut your mouth, you'll walk away every time.I agree with much of Asmoth's advice, but have a little to add. First a disclaimer. Find a lawyer to give you legal advice. Anything I post here is my opinion and is no substitute for legal advice from your attorney.

#1. Don't lie to the police. Before answering anything, ask if you are free to leave. If they say no, then ask if you are under arrest. If you are not under arrest but still not free to leave, go to step 2.

#2. Tell them your name, address, phone number, and any other directory information they might request. Date of birth, place of birth, height, and weight would also fall into that category.

#3. Do not talk about anything else except your desire to leave or have an attorney consultation before going forward or taking any other actions.

#4. Be polite. It costs you nothing to be polite, and may pay dividends later. Keep in mind, you might beat the rap but you can't beat the ride. Being polite might get you a summons to appear in court rather than a trip to jail.

#5. Assume that every word you utter is being recorded, because it is being recorded.

The police are holding all the cards until you hire an attorney or appear in court. Hopefully your request for an attorney, will stop the questions from the police. If it doesn't stop the questioning, continue being polite but resist answering any other questions. Most of us do not have an attorney a retainer, but you can hire one when you are free, or ask the court to appoint someone if you are arrested and don't have the funds to hire someone. Hopefully you will never have to think about this again.

Hotrodvfr
01-07-22, 13:51
I agree with much of Asmoth's advice, but have a little to add. First a disclaimer. Find a lawyer to give you legal advice. Anything I post here is my opinion and is no substitute for legal advice from your attorney.

#1. Don't lie to the police. Before answering anything, ask if you are free to leave. If they say no, then ask if you are under arrest. If you are not under arrest but still not free to leave, go to step 2.

#2. Tell them your name, address, phone number, and any other directory information they might request. Date of birth, place of birth, height, and weight would also fall into that category.

#3. Do not talk about anything else except your desire to leave or have an attorney consultation before going forward or taking any other actions.

#4. Be polite. It costs you nothing to be polite, and my pay dividends later. Keep in mind, you might beat the rap but you can't beat the ride. Being polite might get you a summons to appear in court rather than a trip to jail.

#5. Assume that every word you utter is being recorded, because it is being recorded.

The police are holding all the cards until you hire an attorney or appear in court. Hopefully your request for an attorney, will stop the questions from the police. If it doesn't stop the questioning, continue being polite but resist answering any other questions.Perfectly said. Golden rule, no body talks everybody walks. You will never talk your way out of trouble with cops but far too many people talk their way into it. Just calmly say I'd like to discuss with an attorney before making any statement.

RavensBurg
01-10-22, 15:47
Anyone who knew Bob's stand up humor would probably agree that he would have found this ad (posted by a hooker) commemorating his passing pretty hilarious.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cleveland/73275333

SR7D1
01-11-22, 07:54
Anyone who knew Bob's stand up humor would probably agree that he would have found this ad (posted by a hooker) commemorating his passing pretty hilarious.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cleveland/73275333She looks very much like him, I can see why she mourns his passing.

ThrobbinWood
01-11-22, 08:08
Anyone who knew Bob's stand up humor would probably agree that he would have found this ad (posted by a hooker) commemorating his passing pretty hilarious.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cleveland/73275333I don't see any mention of Saget in this ad. Did I miss something.

Fuzzyek
01-11-22, 10:08
She looks very much like him, I can see why she mourns his passing.That broad is a super fricken flakey *****. I can't believe she claims she will find her mate being a *****. I remember seeing her wearing a dick costume quite a while back.

JustAverageJoe
01-11-22, 10:32
I don't see any mention of Saget in this ad. Did I miss something.You can lead them to water but you can't make them drink. It's right in the main title.

ChristianSin
01-11-22, 13:47
That broad is a super fricken flakey *****. I can't believe she claims she will find her mate being a *****. I remember seeing her wearing a dick costume quite a while back.Yeah, I wondered who else noticed that (her mentioning finding a mate via being a provider). Plus, how many are going to comply with the requirement of a full-length nude photo?

Valdez
01-11-22, 15:13
You can lead them to water but you can't make them drink. It's right in the main title.Some browsers do not show the title. For those that can't see it:

" RIP Bob Saget. Beloved TV dad of Full House - 39 ".

BuckeyeGuy2
01-12-22, 01:27
I don't see any mention of Saget in this ad. Did I miss something.Had the same problem when I held my phone horizontal. Turned it vertical & the RIP to Saget shows up at the top. Also if you want to read the Comments section turn your phone vertical.

Guess she won't see me. I'm older, tall & have a big Johnson. Her loss not mine!!

Chunks92
01-27-22, 06:49
Did some research on ads from various Dave Yost stings across Ohio. If you are ever unsure of if an ad is a sting or not, go to revealname dot com and type the number in. Every single sting ad I've researched has been "operated by twilio". This dates back to 2019.

HoneyBear2076
01-27-22, 10:33
Did some research on ads from various Dave Yost stings across Ohio. If you are ever unsure of if an ad is a sting or not, go to revealname dot com and type the number in. Every single sting ad I've researched has been "operated by twilio". This dates back to 2019.Wow. That is a great find Chunks. Hats off to you. Our in-house sleuth/ bow.

Chunks92
01-27-22, 20:59
Wow. That is a great find Chunks. Hats off to you. Our in-house sleuth/ bow.Appreciate it, here are some examples from past sting ads if you guys would like to see for yourself. Revealname dot com is the site you will type the numbers in.

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/lookin-to-have-some-fun-jessica/35388235 Liberty sting, Dec. 2020. Arrests announced 12/7/20.

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/fun-size-and-ready-to-curl/21399761 Yost's inaugaral statewide sting, 2019. Arrests announced 9/13/19.

Youngstown escort reports post 1691, a number from an ongoing and still active columbiana county sting that has netted hundreds of good guy arrests and scumbag arrests. Arrests announced continuous on salem news as they come in. I was unable to see any of operation Ohio knows sting ads as I was laying low the entire time that sting was going on, but soon as they run their next statewide op I'm going to try to put info on here. I think theyve gotten smart locally around here and made sure their ads don't end up on sumosear. Originally I thought they used text apps but this twilio thing I can see why they use it, they can record calls and everything right in the program on their computers as they run the sting op.

Together we can block these arrests and get Yost out of office! Vote Crossman this November, stop the stings on adults meeting adults!

NCoastLover
01-29-22, 16:55
Did some research on ads from various Dave Yost stings across Ohio. If you are ever unsure of if an ad is a sting or not, go to revealname dot com and type the number in. Every single sting ad I've researched has been "operated by twilio". This dates back to 2019.This is incredible information, thank you!

Exec88
01-30-22, 09:12
Did some research on ads from various Dave Yost stings across Ohio. If you are ever unsure of if an ad is a sting or not, go to revealname dot com and type the number in. Every single sting ad I've researched has been "operated by twilio". This dates back to 2019.Thanks for the info. I've been using the revealname site and it works good.

GreyMatter4448
02-02-22, 00:06
Looks like there was a sting in Brookpark today. Wasn't able to get details, just what I heard. Came back and looked up on the internet as well.

https://www.cleveland19.com/2022/02/01/4-arrested-human-trafficking-sting-brook-park/

Chunks92
02-02-22, 13:54
Looks like there was a sting in Brookpark today. Wasn't able to get details, just what I heard. Came back and looked up on the internet as well.

https://www.cleveland19.com/2022/02/01/4-arrested-human-trafficking-sting-brook-park/Didn't see any suspicious ads that day although I could have glanced past it. But also possible it was all women and no johns. Article is pretty vague unfortunately.

Lugguy 135
02-02-22, 13:58
Looks like there was a sting in Brookpark today. Wasn't able to get details, just what I heard. Came back and looked up on the internet as well.

https://www.cleveland19.com/2022/02/01/4-arrested-human-trafficking-sting-brook-park/Ohio State Highway Patrol troopers, Ohio Investigative Unit agents, Brook Park police officers and the Cuyahoga Regional Human Trafficking Task Force conducted the operation for a total of four hours_All those agencies and they only arrested 4 people in a 4 hour sting. LOL.

Exec88
02-02-22, 14:23
Didn't see any suspicious ads that day although I could have glanced past it. But also possible it was all women and no johns. Article is pretty vague unfortunately.Anymore they all look suspicious. What's with these providers posting an ad then going ghost when you immediately respond? I feel like they are looking for someone that messes up and uses his personal phone with caller I'd. If they don't get it, they just don't respond.

Does anyone have a good UTR provider they could share?

Thanks,

Chunks92
02-02-22, 16:07
Anymore they all look suspicious. What's with these providers posting an ad then going ghost when you immediately respond? I feel like they are looking for someone that messes up and uses his personal phone with caller I'd. If they don't get it, they just don't respond.

Does anyone have a good UTR provider they could share?

Thanks,Theres suspicious, and then theres sting suspicious. I agree with that statement though. Alot of rookie mongers are dumb and use their real numbers.

Cobraa99
02-03-22, 06:49
Looks like there was a sting in Brookpark today. Wasn't able to get details, just what I heard. Came back and looked up on the internet as well.

https://www.cleveland19.com/2022/02/01/4-arrested-human-trafficking-sting-brook-park/All while gun violence, murders, car jackings and robbery's are at an all time high. Great use of resources Yost!. Hours wasted on a few simple misdemeanor fines. Total clown show!

LFP1234
02-11-22, 11:39
Silly question, how long does LEO run ads? Seems to me they would take them down fairly quick. That's always been one thing I've kind of looked at. Adds that pop up and disappear are either LEO or scammers in my opinion. Just curious if anyone typically wants to TOFTF until the ad has been around for a period of time.

Chunks92
02-12-22, 22:58
Silly question, how long does LEO run ads? Seems to me they would take them down fairly quick. That's always been one thing I've kind of looked at. Adds that pop up and disappear are either LEO or scammers in my opinion. Just curious if anyone typically wants to TOFTF until the ad has been around for a period of time.Maximum a week. And that's on the high end when they run the statewide stings. Usually only a day or so. You can search the numbers on revealname, the cops use twilio as their number provider of choice.

Cobraa99
02-14-22, 06:33
" Police arrested a 24-year-old woman Jan. 9 as part of an investigation into advertisements place for sex for hire within the city. There was no further information available at the time of the report. ".

Be careful fellas.

LFP1234
02-14-22, 11:32
Maximum a week. And that's on the high end when they run the statewide stings. Usually only a day or so. You can search the numbers on revealname, the cops use twilio as their number provider of choice.Yeah, I saw that in this forum. I'm kind of wondering what all they can do so to speak, essentially setting up their own profile.

ChristianSin
02-20-22, 09:37
https://roadscaptain.com/switter-the-twitter-for-sex-workers-is-shutting-down

CleProvider
02-20-22, 17:01
Hello,

I am a local provider. I'm posting this to find out if anyone is aware of what is going on with stings. I attempted to login to Rubratings early Saturday morning. A large FBI banner appeared same one when they seized backpage. It stated Rubratings and affiliated websites have been seized by the government. However, a hour later the banner was gone then it stated the site has been hacked. Anyone have anymore knowledge of this? Also, myself and several other local providers are trying to explore other platforms to advertise. Even if the site comes back up after seeing the FBI banner for an hour I no longer feel safe advertising there at least for the time being. I most likely will take a break and only see my established clients but would like to know if there are any other sites anyone could recommend for advertising for massage? Thank you.

Lrkin
02-20-22, 18:28
One of you guys trying to pick up a kid?

https://fox8.com/news/photos-police-need-help-finding-suspect-vehicle-connected-to-allegedly-luring-a-child/

HoneyBear2076
02-21-22, 14:18
So, Chunks and other seniors were right. I also heard "rumors" more were arrested but charges could not be filed against them (must have kept their mouth shut). Many paid hefty fines (up to 2300) and were let go (probably out of state).

https://fox8.com/news/operation-fouled-out-8-men-arrested-in-human-trafficking-crackdown-surrounding-nba-all-star-weekend/

Chunks92
02-23-22, 09:51
So, Chunks and other seniors were right. I also heard "rumors" more were arrested but charges could not be filed against them (must have kept their mouth shut). Many paid hefty fines (up to 2300) and were let go (probably out of state).

https://fox8.com/news/operation-fouled-out-8-men-arrested-in-human-trafficking-crackdown-surrounding-nba-all-star-weekend/Arraignments are to take place in Berea, as we accurately predicted and have documentation of in posts.

Well gents, I'd say we have successfully figured out their operations. Theyre going to have to be alot more slick then that to catch anyone with half a brain. Love this board because it is where millenial and Gen X / boomers all mesh together and respect each other unlike the way it can be on the streets. Gen x / boomers have the experience, guys like myself have the computer skills. With mostly gen x'ers/boomers running the stings, they are no match for millenials who know how to use the internet much better and it is my pleasure to have showed you my ways. Hopefully as forward thinking millenials and some gen x'ers take over the political positions, decriminalization of the hobby can take place because we wont have guys born in 1956 as attorney general attempting to control our lives.

As always be safe,

C92.

Fuzzyek
02-23-22, 11:41
One of you guys trying to pick up a kid?

https://fox8.com/news/photos-police-need-help-finding-suspect-vehicle-connected-to-allegedly-luring-a-child/Not necessarily true, have you ever seen how some of the 14 year olds look these days.

BuckeyeGuy2
02-24-22, 00:40
Silly question, how long does LEO run ads? Seems to me they would take them down fairly quick. That's always been one thing I've kind of looked at. Adds that pop up and disappear are either LEO or scammers in my opinion. Just curious if anyone typically wants to TOFTF until the ad has been around for a period of time.When Elyria posted the ad that got their councilman arrested (and others) it was up for 2 days. I believe they posted on a Thursday & Friday. But the ads stayed on STG for 3 maybe 4 weeks before they either expired or were finally taken down by the original poster not sure which. I have no idea how long an ad stays up if the original poster does not remove it. Not sure if they forgot to take the ads down or kept trying to make more arrests. Wish I would have saved them so I could try Chunks92 technique & run them thru Revealname.com to see if they were linked to Twilio.

Chunks92
02-24-22, 12:19
When Elyria posted the ad that got their councilman arrested (and others) it was up for 2 days. I believe they posted on a Thursday & Friday. But the ads stayed on STG for 3 maybe 4 weeks before they either expired or were finally taken down by the original poster not sure which. I have no idea how long an ad stays up if the original poster does not remove it. Not sure if they forgot to take the ads down or kept trying to make more arrests. Wish I would have saved them so I could try Chunks92 technique & run them thru Revealname.com to see if they were linked to Twilio.Not sure if theyre getting sloppy or they are doing it intentionally to try to rack up more arrests, but a few here and also several out east the bogus ads are remaining on sumosear so you can run the numbers on there as well. Also for those who don't know, they can see what the bogus ads look like.

Chunks92
02-25-22, 04:56
Another popular sting platform used by statewide LEO.

Carrier: Bandwidth - Bandwidth.com - Sybase365.

LFP1234
02-25-22, 12:56
Another popular sting platform used by statewide LEO.

Carrier: Bandwidth - Bandwidth.com - Sybase365.bandwidth.com is a pretty popular phone masking service. Is it specifically sybase365 to avoid in there? Just curious. Looking at this reveal name as an example:

Xxxxxxxxxx is a VoIP number based in US.

It is operated by Google (Grand Central) BWI - Bandwidth.com - SVR.

Owner Name: MAPLE HTS, OH.

Carrier: Google (Grand Central) BWI - Bandwidth.com - SVR.