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Velasco
12-21-11, 04:45
Some complete idiot. I wonder who the escort is at Homestead Studio Suites at 4810 Blue Stone Drive, off Glenwood Avenue. Full story below.

Police: Raleigh man impersonated officer to extort cash from escort.

By Thomasi McDonald. tmcdonald@newsobserver.com

Published in: Wake County. December 20, 2011.

RALEIGH Police say a man used a fake badge and handcuffs to impersonate a police officer and try to extort cash from a woman working as an escort.

Jerry Leander Poe Jr. Of 4408 East Hampton Drive in Raleigh was charged with one count each of impersonating an officer, extortion and second-degree kidnapping, according to a search warrant filed Tuesday at the Wake County Clerk of Courts Office.

Police say the incident occurred Monday in a room at the Homestead Studio Suites at 4810 Blue Stone Drive, off Glenwood Avenue.

The woman told police she was working as an escort when a man called her cell phone at 6:20 a. M. And told her he would stop by her room on his way to work, according to the search warrant.

After she let him into her room, the woman said the man pulled out a badge and handcuffs and asked if she had any drugs. The woman told him no. The man then demanded she pull her pants down and patted her down as if he was an officer, according to the warrant.

The man allowed the woman to pull her pants back up, then asked her 'what would it take for him not to take her downtown, ' according to the warrant. The woman said she did not want to be arrested and would do anything not to be taken downtown.

The man asked her if she had any money. The woman told him she did not have any cash in the room. She said the man told her if she gave him $200 he would not arrest her.

Police say that's when the ploy began to unravel.

The woman called a male friend and told him there was a police officer in her room demanding $200 or he would take her to jail. The woman's friend drove to the hotel and alerted a clerk, who called 911, according to the warrant.

The woman's friend then went to the room and made contact with her.

She ran out and the suspect followed. He showed the woman, her friend and the hotel clerk a badge before announcing he was "going to get his backup" and fled the building, according to the warrant.

The hotel clerk saw the man get into a tan-colored Toyota and wrote down the license number. Police used the number and phone records to identify the suspect as Poe.

Police later found Poe in a white van on Holston Lane in Raleigh. The officers noticed a badge and handcuffs inside the vehicle, according to the warrant.

Police later searched the van and recovered a BB gun, two pairs of handcuffs, a bail enforcement officer badge, pepper spray and a folder that contained bail bond paperwork, court records show.

The police took Poe to the Wake County jail Monday. He was released the same day after posting a $75, 000 bond, a jail spokeswoman reported.

McDonald: 919-829-4533

Karezza
01-27-12, 03:23
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/opinion/how-pimps-use-the-web-to-sell-girls.html?_r=1

MajorSlowCum
11-16-13, 10:02
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/opinion/how-pimps-use-the-web-to-sell-girls.html?_r=1Yah that just how my buddy did it. Rest his soul.

ColdHill
11-21-13, 10:05
Heard Nando is going to do a series undercover reports on AMPs in area.

Vossen
11-21-13, 14:28
Heard Nando is going to do a series undercover reports on AMPs in area.What in the world is Nando?

Ronnor
11-21-13, 14:30
What in the world is Nando?News & Observer.

BillK9999
11-21-13, 14:31
What in the world is Nando?News and Observer ... The biggest newspaper in the area ...

MajorSlowCum
11-21-13, 22:59
Just hope they don't bring WRAL in on it. That would be extremely painful for all of us.

Merge1
11-22-13, 16:02
well, these types who take advantage of **** girls will ruin all the fun.


yah that just how my buddy did it. rest his soul.

Raleighassman
11-22-13, 18:30
Anyone who doubts the validity of this stuff (and I know a lot of men do) needs to realize how serious the Law and the Community is becoming about child / adult sex trafficking. This is not going away. These are really BAD men who do this. They deserve to go to jail for life.. And if guys get busted playing with these abused and coerced females...they're going to end up in jail too. AND on the Sex Offender List. There's a fun place to be.

There's a huge difference between visiting an adult, professional provider...compared with a girl who is forced, via whatever means, to have sex with you.

If you can't / don't want to recognize it...you're taking one helluva risk.

Backpage girls / pimps, thugs, gangstas and all those low lifes. Way too high a risk.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/opinion/how-pimps-use-the-web-to-sell-girls.html?_r=1

Joe Looking
11-23-13, 10:38
anyone who doubts the validity of this stuff (and i know a lot of men do) needs to realize how serious the law and the community is becoming about child / adult sex trafficking. this is not going away. these are really bad men who do this. they deserve to go to jail for life.. and if guys get busted playing with these abused and coerced females...they're going to end up in jail too. and on the sex offender list. there's a fun place to be.

there's a huge difference between visiting an adult, professional provider...compared with a girl who is forced, via whatever means, to have sex with you.

if you can't / don't want to recognize it...you're taking one helluva risk.

backpage girls / pimps, thugs, gangstas and all those low lifes. way too high a risk.i don't think anyone rational human being would deny that it goes on (sex slavery has been going on far longer than "civilized" society). the big questions are: does it go on at the scale reported and are current tactics effective at reducing the scope of it.

i don't think it occurs on nearly the scale many organizations and media outlets would lead us to believe. although my experience is not vast, to this day i have only met one provider on backpage who started when she was under 18. there is no law in existence that would have helped her. she and many girls like her (some whose stories are told in news reports, documentaries, papers and so on) would have only benefited from a healthy dose of common sense and education on how to recognize a predator. unlike the girl in the story she ran away from home after being told by a guy she met online that he could help her make 5,000/ day if she worked for him. when i met her 3 years later she had yet to make that kind of money and was currently broke (despite seeing at least 2 clients a day most days of the month). she refused to leave because he really cared for her and because she was waiting for that big payday. in the case of baby face, some responsibility for her situation has to be put on her and her decision to run away. there are tons of organizations that proactively help street children and don't question why they can't go home or won't go into foster care. again, being able to recognize a predator would have helped as well.

i've met a couple of street walkers who started at a young age. the story was always the same. they ran away from home, headed for a rough part of town where they met an older boyfriend and started prostitution for extra cash to hang out. most of them knew that they could get help but were too caught up in the fun lifestyle they had. we make the assumption that 13 and 14 year old girls are too young to understand the impact of their decisions but at that age some level of personal responsibility for their choices has to be taken.

as for the jons, i really don't think the average adult male wants and **** girl. i think that because kids are developing so early these days it can be hard to tell. you slap some make up, high heels and a provocative dress on a lot of 13 year olds and some look 20.

do the current laws help? no. even in the case of immigrants who are told they will be maids or office workers and are then put to work at a strip club or brothel current laws do them no good. if we had a better immigration policy that made it easier for desired labor to enter the country and more costly for illegal workers would not stop the problem but would definitely reduce the scope. although some anti-trafficking organizations disagree i firmly believe that legalized prostitution would also reduce the problem. personally, i would rather go to a local brothel that was fairly priced than call up a girl on backpage or hunt for street walkers. even in terms of independent providers, if they were required to register and have regular health checks or face prosecution if caught working that would keep young girls out of the business. i will admit that a lot of my assumptions depend on the willingness of clients to go through the legal channels, but you can look no further than drug legalization to see that most people prefer to avoid the black market.

NC Wanderer
11-25-13, 22:18
this post is worthy of a "like" button.


i don't think anyone rational human being would deny that it goes on (sex slavery has been going on far longer than "civilized" society). the big questions are: does it go on at the scale reported and are current tactics effective at reducing the scope of it.

i don't think it occurs on nearly the scale many organizations and media outlets would lead us to believe. although my experience is not vast, to this day i have only met one provider on backpage who started when she was under 18. there is no law in existence that would have helped her. she and many girls like her (some whose stories are told in news reports, documentaries, papers and so on) would have only benefited from a healthy dose of common sense and education on how to recognize a predator. unlike the girl in the story she ran away from home after being told by a guy she met online that he could help her make 5,000/ day if she worked for him. when i met her 3 years later she had yet to make that kind of money and was currently broke (despite seeing at least 2 clients a day most days of the month). she refused to leave because he really cared for her and because she was waiting for that big payday. in the case of baby face, some responsibility for her situation has to be put on her and her decision to run away. there are tons of organizations that proactively help street children and don't question why they can't go home or won't go into foster care. again, being able to recognize a predator would have helped as well.

i've met a couple of street walkers who started at a young age. the story was always the same. they ran away from home, headed for a rough part of town where they met an older boyfriend and started prostitution for extra cash to hang out. most of them knew that they could get help but were too caught up in the fun lifestyle they had. we make the assumption that 13 and 14 year old girls are too young to understand the impact of their decisions but at that age some level of personal responsibility for their choices has to be taken.

as for the jons, i really don't think the average adult male wants and **** girl. i think that because kids are developing so early these days it can be hard to tell. you slap some make up, high heels and a provocative dress on a lot of 13 year olds and some look 20.

do the current laws help? no. even in the case of immigrants who are told they will be maids or office workers and are then put to work at a strip club or brothel current laws do them no good. if we had a better immigration policy that made it easier for desired labor to enter the country and more costly for illegal workers would not stop the problem but would definitely reduce the scope. although some anti-trafficking organizations disagree i firmly believe that legalized prostitution would also reduce the problem. personally, i would rather go to a local brothel that was fairly priced than call up a girl on backpage or hunt for street walkers. even in terms of independent providers, if they were required to register and have regular health checks or face prosecution if caught working that would keep young girls out of the business. i will admit that a lot of my assumptions depend on the willingness of clients to go through the legal channels, but you can look no further than drug legalization to see that most people prefer to avoid the black market.

Rdudreaming
11-26-13, 10:20
It really is entertaining to see the stupidity.

Coming out of our Legislative Branch. The Tories have been.

Out of government for so long they're acting like.

Schoolboys unleashed in the unattended tuck shop.

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BonnieBlaz
12-12-13, 00:57
This post is worthy of a "like" button.The system does not want to legalize it, because their making so much money. We live in a greedy country. I am not saying I believe in hand outs, I am just saying that my opinion is that I wish we were more like Canada when it comes to helping our own. My ex boyfriend fought in the war and his being treated like a second class citizen and it is just not right at all. He and a lot of good decent human beings fought for this country and get degraded on for doing so. Not all girls I was a victim of human trafficking my uncle sold me to his rich doctor friends when I was only 7 yrs old, in other countries children are better than teenagers, you do not understand what I had to go through this is my story I am not on drugs, I did do porn and this and I feel guilty and sorry that I did but I had a lot of fun and still do. I am disease, drug free and I just feel no one understands what a sex worker goes through, I wish it was not frowned upon, so much by the media we are people, humans, daughters, mothers too. I just want to make money, have fun, get my organisms, and go home to my normal life with my children.

Raider1963
12-13-13, 11:03
The system does not want to legalize it, because their making so much money. We live in a greedy country. I am not saying I believe in hand outs, I am just saying that my opinion is that I wish we were more like Canada when it comes to helping our own. My ex boyfriend fought in the war and his being treated like a second class citizen and it is just not right at all. He and a lot of good decent human beings fought for this country and get degraded on for doing so. Not all girls I was a victim of human trafficking my uncle sold me to his rich doctor friends when I was only 7 yrs old, in other countries children are better than teenagers, you do not understand what I had to go through this is my story I am not on drugs, I did do porn and this and I feel guilty and sorry that I did but I had a lot of fun and still do. I am disease, drug free and I just feel no one understands what a sex worker goes through, I wish it was not frowned upon, so much by the media we are people, humans, daughters, mothers too. I just want to make money, have fun, get my organisms, and go home to my normal life with my children.First of all I want to say that what happened to you at the age of 7 is despicable. I am one not to judge but a grown man who sees a 7 year old as a sex partner is a sick ass individual.

Second, I want to say that I agree with what you said. If a woman choses to work in the sex industry as a means of providing for herself and kids, that should be her choice. Our government is getting way to big and far too much into our lives.

I wish you luck and happiness.

Just my 2 ¢ worth.

Raider.

Ellis61
12-13-13, 23:30
First of all I want to say that what happened to you at the age of 7 is despicable. I am one not to judge but a grown man who sees a 7 year old as a sex partner is a sick ass individual.

Second, I want to say that I agree with what you said. If a woman choses to work in the sex industry as a means of providing for herself and kids, that should be her choice. Our government is getting way to big and far too much into our lives.

I wish you luck and happiness.

Just my 2 ¢ worth.

Raider.Same here!

NcPantyHose2
05-22-15, 08:30
Hi all mongers. Breaking news, looks like AFF (adult friend finder) has been hacked. See article below. Would suggest steering clear of posting any personal info there or even deleting any you have on it.

http://www.channel4.com/news/adult-friendfinder-dating-hack-internet-dark-web

Capt314
07-01-15, 14:28
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mastercard-dumps-backpage

Looks like there may be fewer ads on Backpage now. The article makes it sound like Visa and Mastercard have already done this. But what it means is that providers can no longer place ads on backpage. Org with a credit card. The same think happened to CraigsList in 2010.

From the article:

""The unfettered proliferation of websites like Backpage.com has provided this violent industry with a mask of normalcy, driving demand ever higher and increasing the enslavement of prostituted individuals, including children," Dart wrote, alleging that in more than 800 cases where his office responded to Backpage ads, every investigation led to an arrest. "

The USA Adult Classifieds is open for business, make the move now before BP gets closed, you know it's coming.

http://usaadultclassifieds.info

A2

Capt314
07-21-15, 16:53
This is getting more interesting.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/backpage-sues-cook-county-sheriff

In a nutshell, a sheriff in Chicago pressured Visa and master Card into denying processing of Backpage Adult ads. He claimed it was aiding illeagle activities and promoting human trafficing. Backpage has now sued him, "alleging that Cook County's Thomas Dart, sheriff of the second largest county in the country, was censoring the company and its customers' right to free speech by pushing for Visa and Mastercard to end their relationships with Backpage. ".

This should be interesting. If Backpage wins, I wonder if Craigs List will bring back Adult Services.

QuickPurchase
07-21-15, 18:24
This is getting more interesting.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/backpage-sues-cook-county-sheriff

In a nutshell, a sheriff in Chicago pressured Visa and master Card into denying processing of Backpage Adult ads. He claimed it was aiding illeagle activities and promoting human trafficing. Backpage has now sued him, "alleging that Cook County's Thomas Dart, sheriff of the second largest county in the country, was censoring the company and its customers' right to free speech by pushing for Visa and Mastercard to end their relationships with Backpage. ".

This should be interesting. If Backpage wins, I wonder if Craigs List will bring back Adult Services.I'm sure they won't go down without a fight.

BrownRod
07-21-15, 21:32
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mastercard-dumps-backpage

Looks like there may be fewer ads on Backpage now. The article makes it sound like Visa and Mastercard have already done this. But what it means is that providers can no longer place ads on backpage. Org with a credit card. The same think happened to CraigsList in 2010.

From the article:

""The unfettered proliferation of websites like Backpage.com has provided this violent industry with a mask of normalcy, driving demand ever higher and increasing the enslavement of prostituted individuals, including children," Dart wrote, alleging that in more than 800 cases where his office responded to Backpage ads, every investigation led to an arrest. "

The USA Adult Classifieds is open for business, make the move now before BP gets closed, you know it's coming.

http://usaadultclassifieds.info

A2I just read backpages suit as they request for an emergency injunction. They said they are not charging for posts right now, so you may start to see more post than ever in all categories.

Sgiii
07-23-15, 00:29
Maybe all the closings or heat on the AMP's now the ladies just decided to just go full blown prostitution at a hotel in Raleigh.

PleasureSeeker
07-23-15, 12:59
Maybe all the closings or heat on the AMP's now the ladies just decided to just go full blown prostitution at a hotel in Raleigh.Are you referring to some news report?

Sgiii
07-23-15, 12:59
Are you referring to some news report?Just a single Asian lady on the wakemugshots.com site.

PleasureSeeker
07-23-15, 13:16
Just a single Asian lady on the wakemugshots.com site.Went to look and saw yet another provider up there, one I've seen: http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/utit-mt-r-r-frksexy-juic-available-now/18171718.

Says she was arrested at her incall location, but not sure what the abbreviations mean. FTA-DWLR NOT IMPAIRED REV.

Actually, found this: Normally it would refer to a license revocation or suspension NOT related to an impaired driving offense.

So that's quite a stretch if they found her at her incall, arrested her, and used that as the pretense.

PleasureSeeker
07-23-15, 13:28
Note how in this sting, it explains how it unfolded. I believe you have to explicitly state your intentions, more or less. I recall one poster stating here that they heard someone was arrested for just getting out of their car after texting a SP. I doubt it. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure you have to be caught in the actual exchange of services discussion. If anyone knows more, chime in.

http://deadspin.com/cops-greg-anthony-offered-prostitute-80-for-sex-and-1682068791

Jefferson469
07-23-15, 14:02
Went to look and saw yet another provider up there, one I've seen: http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/utit-mt-r-r-frksexy-juic-available-now/18171718.

Says she was arrested at her incall location, but not sure what the abbreviations mean. FTA-DWLR NOT IMPAIRED REV.

Actually, found this: Normally it would refer to a license revocation or suspension NOT related to an impaired driving offense.

So that's quite a stretch if they found her at her incall, arrested her, and used that as the pretense.That means Failure to appear- driving with license revoked not impaired revocation. They arrested her for failure to appear in court for her trial. Her drivers license had been revoked for reasons not involving a dwi.

I have seen somebody pulled near their incall for other reasons, RPD run outstanding charges and then have them arrested for FTA and the incall location used as the arrest location.

Sgiii
07-23-15, 14:28
Went to look and saw yet another provider up there, one I've seen: http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/utit-mt-r-r-frksexy-juic-available-now/18171718.

Says she was arrested at her incall location, but not sure what the abbreviations mean. FTA-DWLR NOT IMPAIRED REV.

Actually, found this: Normally it would refer to a license revocation or suspension NOT related to an impaired driving offense.

So that's quite a stretch if they found her at her incall, arrested her, and used that as the pretense.You can't see her face. I assume you have seen her before then to know it's her?

PM me a link if you can.

NcPantyHose2
08-12-15, 09:38
FYI guys on 680 am were talking abut about massage parlors in the. Triangle the other day. Mentioned no location in particular. Couldn't find any followup on their website. It basically implied massage parlors were slave labor and connected to drug cartels. Totally ridiculous but these guys will do anything for ratings cause there in the basement.

RideNbuy
08-13-15, 09:32
Fail to appear-driving with license revoked.


Went to look and saw yet another provider up there, one I've seen: http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/utit-mt-r-r-frksexy-juic-available-now/18171718.

Says she was arrested at her incall location, but not sure what the abbreviations mean. FTA-DWLR NOT IMPAIRED REV.

Actually, found this: Normally it would refer to a license revocation or suspension NOT related to an impaired driving offense.

So that's quite a stretch if they found her at her incall, arrested her, and used that as the pretense.

Capt314
08-20-15, 13:55
Here is an article from Wired Magazine Online (a source I trust) that lists several places online you can check to see if you were exposed in the Ashley Madison Hack. Or, I suppose, you can look for your spouse, friends, crappy boss, or bad neighbor who simply won't return the tools he has borrowed.

http://www.wired.com/2015/08/check-loved-one-exposed-ashley-madison-hack/

Capt314
08-27-15, 09:11
People have been data mining the data dump from the Ashley Madison hack. It looks like it was one huge scam to separate men from their money. The data set, generally described of representing 37 m accounts, had about 12,000 women users. Of those "users" only 1492 of them actually checked their messages compared to 20 m men.

So it looks like Ashley Madison was a dressed up AFF. Men paying to talk to bots.

http://boingboing.net/2015/08/26/ashley-madison-looks-like-it-w.html

Sgiii
09-04-15, 22:55
http://abc11.com/news/man-stabbed-when-he-asked-for-money-back-after-sex/955312/

Capt314
09-10-15, 14:27
If you had an Ashley Madison account, even if you didn't use your credit card, you may want to consider changing all your passwords on your other accounts. It was widely thought the passwords on Ashley Madison were unbreakable (in a reasonable amount of time) because they used bcrypt to encrypt them. Unfortunately, AM didn't do it correctly and now most of the passwords have been decrypted. OK, so why should you care. Because people are lazy. They tend to use the same password on *all* their online accounts. As hackers have already published usernames and the names of the people behind them. All they need now is the password. Once they have that, it's open season on your Amazon account, email account, back account.

You get the picture.

Of course, I'm sure nobody on *this* board did that. Everyone here has a unique username and password just for this site.

Purple45
05-09-16, 17:43
"recruited women and girls as young as 16 years old into prostitution".

"he lured them into his scheme by promising they would be part of a 'family' when they had none".

"kidnapped one of the victims and viciously beat her after she left and reported him to the police".

"used lies to lure vulnerable young women and underage girls into his criminal enterprise".

http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20160504/charlotte-man-operating-sex-trafficking-enterprise-gets-life-sentence?rssfeed=true

Unclebadtouch
09-17-16, 23:18
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Emeralddragon6
10-07-16, 07:22
Hey brothers. Just to be aware that backpage office was seized yesterday and the CEO was arrested. As to the servers, I don't know where they are hosted so going to not send any mail through them right now and wanted to let everyone know. Could not link the la times article but you all can google it. Stay safe.

Vossen
10-07-16, 08:39
Hey brothers. Just to be aware that backpage office was seized yesterday and the CEO was arrested. As to the servers, I don't know where they are hosted so going to not send any mail through them right now and wanted to let everyone know. Could not link the la times article but you all can google it. Stay safe.And on pimping charges of all things. He was raking in $2 million a month from the site alone, how and why in the hell was he pimping? LOL.

TheAmazing
10-07-16, 08:55
And on pimping charges of all things. He was raking in $2 million a month from the site alone, how and why in the hell was he pimping? LOL.They are charging him with pimping by way of the escort section. I doubt he's been wearing a fur coat and platform shoes while his hos are working the track down the street <grin .

Good news for us, we are ready. New version coming out soon.

http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/

A2

Capt314
10-07-16, 08:56
I post this as informational. I am not suggesting backpage is good, bad, or anything else.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-backpage-california-trafficking-idUSKCN1262IW

Pubb69
10-07-16, 11:23
And on pimping charges of all things. He was raking in $2 million a month from the site alone, how and why in the hell was he pimping? LOL.B. P. Has run its course, Nothing but street walkers and trouble. I am sure it will be expiring shortly. I find it hard to believe the CEO will be prosecuted on the charges made up but they will succeed in shutting the site down and costing him a ton in attorney fees.Pretty sure because he provided a means to advertise that he is indirectly being accused of pimping.

EdGein
10-07-16, 12:43
And on pimping charges of all things. He was raking in $2 million a month from the site alone, how and why in the hell was he pimping? LOL.The TL / DR version. The Pimping charge is not going to be the ***** here. The Conspiracy to Commit Pimping will be what winds them up under the jail.

Oh and if they can prove that they were 'compliicit' in the Trafficking of underaged sex slaves, well. They might never see outside again.

Well, in the Democratic Socialist Republic of PCH Also known as California Pimping is a very specific charge.

California "pimping" is defined in California Penal Code 266 h PC. You commit the crime of "pimping" if you either:

Knowingly receive financial support or maintenance from the earnings of someone engaged in prostitution; or.

Receive or try to receive compensation for soliciting for a prostitute (that is, finding customers for him / her).

So I would say they are more aiming at the second part of that sentence.

Furthermore.

Despite being known as the "oldest profession in the world," prostitution still gets prosecuted aggressively as a criminal act. Prostitution, simply put, means to engage in a sexual act in exchange for money or other consideration (that is, other goods or services).

California prostitution law under Penal Code 647 (b) PC prohibits.

Engaging in the act of prostitution, and.

Offering (this is also known as "solicitation") or agreeing to engage in the act of prostitution. 1.

So California's prostitution statute allow law enforcement officers to arrest.

The prostitute,

The customer, otherwise known as a "john," and.

(where appropriate), the middleman, otherwise known as a pimp. The "pimp" is arrested if he / she (1) arranges or participates in soliciting the agreement, (2) receives part or all of a prostitute's pay, or (3) participates in procuring the prostitute. These crimes, described in Penal Code 266 h and 266 I PC, are commonly referred to as "pimping and pandering. "2 A middleman may also be arrested under Penal Code 653.23 PC, which prohibits the more general crime of "supervising or aiding" a prostitute. 3.

There is often an enormous amount of political and social pressure to arrest those involved in prostitution offenses. As a result, law enforcement agencies typically invest substantial resources in vice squad operations.

Examples.

Specific examples of behavior that can lead to California prostitution charges. Or even a conviction. Include:

A man offering drugs to a young woman in exchange for a "blow job" (even if she is not a prostitute by profession and says no).

A woman allowing a man to fondle her bare breasts in exchange for money, and.

A man accepting a woman's offer to have sex in exchange for money.

Penalties.

The California crime of prostitution (or solicitation) is a misdemeanor. 4 For a first offense, the potential penalties include up to six (6) months in county jail, a fine of up to one thousand dollars ($1,000), or both. 5.

Legal Defenses.

If you are charged with prostitution, it is well worth it to fight the charges. There are a number of effective legal defenses that may help you get an dismissal or a reduction of charges. These include:

Entrapment,

Insufficient evidence,

Lack of evidence, and.

Mistake.

In order to better understand California's prostitution laws, our California criminal defense attorneys6 will address the following:

1. Legal Definition of Solicitation & Prostitution.

In California.

1. 1. Engaging in an act of prostitution.

1. 2. Soliciting prostitution.

1. 3. Agreeing to engage in an act of prostitution.

2. What are the Penalties for Prostitution.

In California?

2. 1. Misdemeanor penalties.

2. 2. Registration as a sex offender under California Penal Code.

290 PC.

3. Legal Defenses Against a Penal Code 647 (b) PC Prostitution or Solicitation Charge.

4. History of California Penal Code 647 (b) PC: Prostitution and Solicitation for Prostitution.

5. Related Offenses.

5. 1. California Penal Code sections 266 h and 266 I pimping and pandering.

5. 2. Penal Code 647 (a) PC lewd conduct in public.

5. 3. Penal Code 653.23 PC supervising or aiding.

A prostitute.

5. 4. Penal Code 653.22 PC loitering to.

Commit prostitution.

5. 5. Penal Code 314 PC California indecent.

Exposure laws.

5. 6. California Penal Code 261 PC rape.

If, after reading this article, you have additional questions, we invite you to contact us at Shouse Law Group.

1. Legal Definition of Prostitution in California under Penal Code 647 (b) PC.

There are three basic ways to violate California prostitution law under Penal Code 647 (b) PC. Which specific prostitution offense prosecutors have charged you with will determine what facts (otherwise known as "elements of the crime") the prosecution must prove.

The legal definitions of the crimes of prostitution and solicitation focus on these elements.

1. 1. Engaging in an act of prostitution.

For you to be guilty of engaging in an act of prostitution, the following must be true:

You engaged in an act of prostitution, and.

You did so willfully. 7.

"Prostitution" means engaging in sexual intercourse or any lewd act with another person in exchange for money or other consideration. 8.

Img-prostitution-car.

A "lewd" act is defined as any act that involves touching the genitals, buttocks, or female breast of another person with the specific intent to arouse or gratify someone sexually. 9.

"Willfully" means deliberately or on purpose. It does not require an intent to break the law. 10.

1. 2. Soliciting prostitution.

The legal definition of soliciting prostitution is:

That you solicited another person to engage in an act of prostitution, and.

That you did so with the specific intent to engage in an act of prostitution. 11.

Depending on the nature of the exchange. And on who initiated the interaction. Prosecutors could charge this offense against the prostitute or the customer (or "john" 12.

"Soliciting" means to lure, or to try to induce or elicit. 13.

And, in order to be guilty of soliciting, you have to have had the specific intent to engage in an act of prostitution. This intent is typically evidenced by an offer to pay money or other compensation (typically drugs) in exchange for sexual acts14 . Not by a simple unspoken gesture or appearance.

Simply soliciting another person, without that specific intent, is insufficient to uphold a Penal Code 647 (b) PC solicitation for prostitution case. The California Court of Appeals has noted that if it were sufficient, simply.

Being present in a particular place (for example, being in a known area of prostitution).

Waving to a passing vehicle.

Nodding to a stranger, or.

Even standing on a street corner in a miniskirt.

Could give rise to this charge.

So the fact that these girls mostly put, "this is not an ad for prostitution and any money exchanged is for my time only" in their ads MIGHT buy this guy a way out. But of course, some did not.

The main thing this guy and the other two they picked up are going to be Fucked by is the Conspiracy to Commit Pimping charge. That falls under a WHOLE different statute.

86. This act may be cited as the "California Control of Profits of.

Organized Crime Act. " (This is the California Equivalent of the RICO Federal laws. Bad Shit.).

186.1. The Legislature hereby finds and declares that an effective.

Means of punishing and deterring criminal activities of organized.

Crime is through the forfeiture of profits acquired and accumulated.

As a result of such criminal activities. It is the intent of the.

Legislature that the "California Control of Profits of Organized.

Crime Act" be used by prosecutors to punish and deter only such.

Activities.

(d) "Organized crime" means crime that is of a conspiratorial.

Nature and that is either of an organized nature and seeks to supply.

Illegal goods or services such as narcotics, prostitution, pimping.

And pandering, loan-sharking, counterfeiting of a registered mark in.

Violation of Section 350, the piracy of a recording or audiovisual.

Work in violation of Section 653 w, gambling, and pornography, or.

That, through planning and coordination of individual efforts, seeks.

To conduct the illegal activities of arson for profit, hijacking.

Insurance fraud, smuggling, operating vehicle theft rings, fraud.

Against the beverage container recycling program, embezzlement.

Securities fraud, insurance fraud in violation of the provisions.

Listed in paragraph 34 of subdivision (a), grand theft, money.

Laundering, forgery, or systematically encumbering the assets of a.

Business for the purpose of defrauding creditors. "Organized crime".

Also means crime committed by a criminal street gang, as defined in.

Subdivision (f) of Section 186.22. "Organized crime" also means false.

Or fraudulent activities, schemes, or artifices, as described in.

Section 14107 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, and the theft of.

Personal identifying information, as defined in Section 530.5.

186.2. For purposes of this chapter, the following definitions.

Apply:

(12) Pimping and pandering, as defined in Section 266.

And the fact that they are 'Conspiring to commit' is tantamount to the case.

266 d. Any person who receives any money or other valuable thing for.

Or on account of placing in custody any other person for the purpose.

Of causing the other person to cohabit with any person to whom the.

Other person is not married, is guilty of a felony.

266 e. Every person who purchases, or pays any money or other.

Valuable thing for, any person for the purpose of prostitution as.

Defined in subdivision (b) of Section 647, or for the purpose of.

Placing such person, for immoral purposes, in any house or place.

Against his or her will, is guilty of a felony punishable by.

Imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months, or two or three.

Years.

266 f. Every person who sells any person or receives any money or.

Other valuable thing for or on account of his or her placing in.

Custody, for immoral purposes, any person, whether with or without.

His or her consent, is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment.

In the state prison for 16 months, or two or three years.

The main reason behind this seems to be underaged prostitution and the Trafficking of underaged Sex slaves. Ugh.

266. Every person who inveigles or entices any unmarried female, of.

Previous chaste character, under the age of 18 years, into any house.

Of ill fame, or of assignation, or elsewhere, for the purpose of.

Prostitution, or to have illicit carnal connection with any man; and.

Every person who aids or assists in such inveiglement or enticement;.

And every person who, by any false pretenses, false representation.

Or other fraudulent means, procures any female to have illicit carnal.

Connection with any man, is punishable by imprisonment in the state.

Prison, or by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year.

Or by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars ($2,000), or by both.

Such fine and imprisonment.

Purple45
11-11-16, 10:27
In New Bern, NC the man pictured in the link is meeting BP girls at their hotel room and then proceeds to assault and rob the girls.

http://wncn.com/2016/11/09/man-assaults-robs-women-at-nc-hotels-meetings-set-on-backpage-website-sheriff-says/

Purple45
11-28-16, 01:10
There use to be several Hispanic and AA ladies staying at this hotel on Highway 55. I'm not sure if that's the case anymore, but it's good to be aware of what's going on out there.

http://www.wral.com/police-man-found-shot-to-death-in-durham-hotel-room/16280445/

PenaltyKiller
11-28-16, 09:29
There use to be several Hispanic and AA ladies staying at this hotel on Highway 55. I'm not sure if that's the case anymore, but it's good to be aware of what's going on out there.

http://www.wral.com/police-man-found-shot-to-death-in-durham-hotel-room/16280445/I've seen two providers there this year, both white. I saw this this morning on the news. I'm interested in knowing what happened.

GetControl
12-02-16, 21:56
Terrible! http://abc11.com/news/police-id-2-people-killed-in-raleigh-hotel-shooting/1635901/#videoplayer.

Purple45
12-07-16, 12:40
The suspect, SEG, has a new mugshot today. He now has been charged with kidnapping, assault by strangulation and rape that occurred on Oct 28, 2016.

Purple45
12-07-16, 14:02
I've seen two providers there this year, both white. I saw this this morning on the news. I'm interested in knowing what happened.The shooting doesn't appear to be hobby related. A suspect has been charged and arrested. http://abc11.com/news/suspect-charged-in-fatal-durham-motel-shooting/1641055/.

Purple45
12-07-16, 14:11
The suspect, SEG, has a new mugshot today. He now has been charged with kidnapping, assault by strangulation and rape that occurred on Oct 28, 2016.http://wncn.com/2016/12/07/raleigh-hotel-murder-suspect-charged-in-october-rape-robbery/

GetControl
12-07-16, 14:19
http://wncn.com/2016/12/07/raleigh-hotel-murder-suspect-charged-in-october-rape-robbery/http://abc11.com/news/man-wanted-in-raleigh-murder-captured-in-florida/1644120/

GetControl
12-09-16, 09:24
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article119657008.html

Purple45
12-12-16, 09:16
You never let the girl just blindly open the door during your appointment. You need to verify everything firsthand!

http://wncn.com/2016/12/11/5-nabbed-after-fayetteville-man-robbed-kidnapped-while-meeting-woman-at-motel/

GetControl
12-12-16, 10:37
You never let the girl just blindly open the door during your appointment. You need to verify everything firsthand!

http://wncn.com/2016/12/11/5-nabbed-after-fayetteville-man-robbed-kidnapped-while-meeting-woman-at-motel/What do you think he meant by "She carried me like a baby"?

Purple45
12-12-16, 15:43
You never let the girl just blindly open the door during your appointment. You need to verify everything firsthand!

http://wncn.com/2016/12/11/5-nabbed-after-fayetteville-man-robbed-kidnapped-while-meeting-woman-at-motel/


What do you think he meant by "She carried me like a baby"?IMO the girl was stalling, by cuddling, till the knock on the door. There is only one victim listed, the guy, so it appears to have been a setup from the beginning. If the initial meet was for sex then she wasn't going to tell LE that. I'm sure the victim is ok with the record showing "she carried him like a baby" statement as well.

Rdudreaming
12-13-16, 15:18
Gent robbed by girl he met online.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article120573748.html

Purple45
12-13-16, 20:10
Gent robbed by girl he met online.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article120573748.htmlUnfortunately, "A man told police that he had met her online, went to the Red Roof Inn to meet her and was robbed". The two women were also charged with heroin trafficking and are under a 2.5M bond.

Unknown providers are becoming risky business! How many times do think this has already happened before this man called LE?

Amateur11
12-13-16, 20:40
"A man told police that he had met her online, went to the Red Roof Inn to meet her and was robbed". The two women were also charged with heroin trafficking and are under a 2.5M bond.

Unknown providers are becoming risky business!It's most certainly not just "unknown," do not lull yourself into a false sense of security thinking everything is fine if you've seen a girl before. I've had some of THE best experiences with girls who had never posted before "today," and though I've not had bad experiences with "repeats," you and I have both read plenty of stories on here about girls who were once ok not being ok now, certainly including tales of missing money and "cash and dash. ".

This hobby and every girl in it, every dream should be considered a snapshot of what's true TODAY, for tomorrow what's true about any of these girls may be COMPLETELY different tomorrow.

TheSting24
12-13-16, 21:18
Stupid is as stupid does.

When a monger is chasing pussy in these type of neighborhoods, there is an inherent risk involved.

I ain't asking why'all to build a rocket, but for Gods sake try to use some smarts.

Sting.


Unfortunately, "A man told police that he had met her online, went to the Red Roof Inn to meet her and was robbed". The two women were also charged with heroin trafficking and are under a 2.5M bond.

Unknown providers are becoming risky business! How many times do think this has already happened before this man called LE?

RedBaron Daron
12-24-16, 11:22
As with most Crusades, Facts and the Law are annoying minor details:

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-backpage-charges-20161223-story.html

JMonger
12-26-16, 13:34
I didn't think of 5623 Durham-Chapel Hill Blvd. As being a particularly suspicious neighborhood. I drive through there on a regular bases as it is on a major road, near UNC offices, retail shops, and single family housing neighborhoods. I have actually kept my eyes open for providers along that road as it is a very convenient location for me (and I have had a couple reasonable experiences).

Did I miss something? Perhaps my monger senses are worse that I thought.


Stupid is as stupid does.

When a monger is chasing pussy in these type of neighborhoods, there is an inherent risk involved.

I ain't asking why'all to build a rocket, but for Gods sake try to use some smarts.

Sting.

Purple45
12-27-16, 11:48
It's most certainly not just "unknown," do not lull yourself into a false sense of security thinking everything is fine if you've seen a girl before. I've had some of THE best experiences with girls who had never posted before "today," and though I've not had bad experiences with "repeats," you and I have both read plenty of stories on here about girls who were once ok not being ok now, certainly including tales of missing money and "cash and dash. ".

This hobby and every girl in it, every dream should be considered a snapshot of what's true TODAY, for tomorrow what's true about any of these girls may be COMPLETELY different tomorrow.My post did sound like that every unknown is becoming a risk and that is not true. I've also in the past seen providers who were new and with no reviews and had a good experience and some ok experiences but never any problems. I've also repeated with a girl because the first time was nice but only to find that the second time was completely different and was not as good. It really does depend and "every day is a new day" is more accurate description. Now I have have met some high dollar duds who I would have rather donated those roses to charity, then have wasted on their deceiving ass. Girls who change from angel to devil once they get the donation are in the same category as a "cash and dash" girl in my book. Anyway, you are correct that you can't let down your guard with unknown or known providers because you just don't know the whole story. By the time you see her it could be a different and darker chapter in her life.

Amateur11
12-30-16, 14:12
I didn't think of 5623 Durham-Chapel Hill Blvd. As being a particularly suspicious neighborhood. I drive through there on a regular bases as it is on a major road, near UNC offices, retail shops, and single family housing neighborhoods. I have actually kept my eyes open for providers along that road as it is a very convenient location for me (and I have had a couple reasonable experiences).

Did I miss something? Perhaps my monger senses are worse that I thought.Probably a crapshoot, probably no issues, but buyer beware, anything north of Franklin and Estes is pretty much Durham. There is too much trash zipping down 15/501 into what should otherwise be the southern part of heaven.

Don't forget Eve Carson was killed on this road much closer to campus, in the residential area of Franklin, by 2 Durham thugs.

GetControl
12-30-16, 20:35
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article123518644.html"They also disclosed in asking for the search warrant that Hill and Garvey had been on a cell phone call with Garvey or Holland shortly before they died".

GetControl
01-06-17, 17:21
http://www.pornhub.com/insights/2016-year-in-review2016 Pornhub year in Review.

IbChilln
03-12-17, 01:37
RPD investigating a death. No word on who or what happened.

Purple45
03-12-17, 15:02
RPD investigating a death. No word on who or what happened.Man found dead and on fire! Appliance Court is a streetwalker hangout and generally not a desirable place to be at night.

Hanger42
03-25-17, 17:59
Looks like a couple of AMPs are in trouble. Looks like more license checking.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article140560983.html

TheAmazing
03-26-17, 08:45
Looks like a couple of AMPs are in trouble. Looks like more license checking.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article140560983.htmlThis is worrisome in the sense that this location wasn't known for extras. I guess it has some different issues with the bribery and all, but still comes back to licensing.

GetControl
07-08-17, 14:09
See post 3459807.

Article: http://www.wral.com/police-raid-close-raleigh-massage-parlor-after-officer-offered-of-full-body-massage-/16807743/

Hanger42
07-20-17, 18:28
WRAL had a segment on AMPs. Called out Apex's parlor and Super Relax as well as showed owners. They are also touting the new law about human trafficking. Here is a link to that law http://www.wral.com/new-law-would-help-in-fight-against-north-carolina-s-thriving-illicit-massage-business/16832136/.

Spotlight on AMPs. Not good.

Jjjchar
07-21-17, 11:51
Guess no real crime to be solved. If I suspected any woman in the biz is "in servitude", I'd call the police myself. Other than that, to be sure there some real crime that deserves more attention.

Purple45
11-07-17, 22:32
EXCLUSIVE: Feds raid Youngsville business for possible sex, cyber crimes.

http://abc11.com/feds-raid-youngsville-business-for-possible-sex-cyber-crimes/2614696/

MrSmithwick
11-09-17, 05:45
That is the shell company for Eros.com.


EXCLUSIVE: Feds raid Youngsville business for possible sex, cyber crimes.

http://abc11.com/feds-raid-youngsville-business-for-possible-sex-cyber-crimes/2614696/

Purple45
11-11-17, 15:09
That is the shell company for Eros.com.http://abc11.com/adult-entertainment-industry-abuzz-after-federal-raid/2625072/

MrSmithwick
11-14-17, 23:02
Not quite sure why they chose NC for the Home Base. Stupid to say the least. Eros is a global business, should have been based in the Netherlands. This would not have happened.


http://abc11.com/adult-entertainment-industry-abuzz-after-federal-raid/2625072/

LifeLine
08-15-18, 23:34
Article in the New York post:

"A Miami cross-dresser spent years tricking men into performing sex acts for him on camera — posing as a lonely housewife and convincing them to wear blindfolds or blacked-out goggles, federal agents say. ".

Not sure how hard up you got to be to trust someone like that but oh well. Article goes on to say he filmed the encounters and put them on a website that stated the videos were of real, straight guys unknowingly participating in sex acts with other men. Reminds me of the one of the ads that used to post all the time about a car date that someone said turned out to be a guy.

Joey Sambora
08-16-18, 00:58
Article in the New York post:

"A Miami cross-dresser spent years tricking men into performing sex acts for him on camera posing as a lonely housewife and convincing them to wear blindfolds or blacked-out goggles, federal agents say. ".

Not sure how hard up you got to be to trust someone like that but oh well. Article goes on to say he filmed the encounters and put them on a website that stated the videos were of real, straight guys unknowingly participating in sex acts with other men. Reminds me of the one of the ads that used to post all the time about a car date that someone said turned out to be a guy.There's a guy over here at Duraleigh / Glenwood that used to post as a female. You find out after numerous emails and questioning it's a guy. The problem was he would change up the wording but there was a legit female who used to post too. I think he started to copy her postings. Be careful in this area though.

JoeWeezer
09-07-18, 17:26
Looks like this situation went way out of control. Wonder what the whole story is...

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article217936080.html

MedJohnson
09-07-18, 20:42
To that story for sure.

Med.


Looks like this situation went way out of control. Wonder what the whole story is...

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article217936080.html

Raleighncman
01-14-19, 11:53
https://www.wral.com/police-prostitution-at-root-of-north-carolina-shooting/18122819/

RedBaron Daron
01-14-19, 18:03
https://www.wral.com/police-prostitution-at-root-of-north-carolina-shooting/18122819/Funny, the way the article is written I think that the reporter is in the game. Js.

RBD out.

Rdudreaming
01-17-19, 14:49
And in local news, the group that shot a Raleigh Police Officer had used a hijacked car. The girl in the group had lured the driver of the car to her location via an online site.

Bb211
02-12-19, 13:54
Terrible! http://abc11.com/news/police-id-2-people-killed-in-raleigh-hotel-shooting/1635901/#videoplayer.Two plus years and the trial begins. May justice be served.

Amateur11
02-12-19, 14:34
Two plus years and the trial begins. May justice be served.Chatted with her on and off, never managed to meet. Seemed like a sweet girl. She didn't seem like one to screw over a client, pull dirty tricks, etc, just trying to survive.

Purple45
02-16-19, 00:08
Always use an unregistered pay as you go throwaway phone or phone app linked to an email account with fake personal information.

https://www.apnews.com/60a35f37cd439ca1b260c156bf5ea030

RPD seizes four cell phones for possible evidence of crimes committed.

https://www.heraldsun.com/news/local/article225394180.html

Three arrested after attempting to extort money from men responding to a fake sex ad.

DMizzle26
02-16-19, 11:22
Two plus years and the trial begins. May justice be served.Being a guy that Saw her numerous times and actually spoke to the BF a few times. She was one of the girls who had their bf's close by during her dates but never made you feel uncomfortable about it. Dude died really trying to protect his girl. Watching the security footage shown you could see he didn't feel good about the situation he was leaving his GF in and like guy in that position he tried to do something about it. But then for them to turn around and shoot her for what reason? They should most def get the death penalty.

Purple45
02-17-19, 00:27
Being a guy that Saw her numerous times and actually spoke to the BF a few times. She was one of the girls who had their bf's close by during her dates but never made you feel uncomfortable about it. Dude died really trying to protect his girl. Watching the security footage shown you could see he didn't feel good about the situation he was leaving his GF in and like guy in that position he tried to do something about it. But then for them to turn around and shoot her for what reason? They should most def get the death penalty.Dwayne (BF) left the room as Gillard entered. The BF looked back because Hill was in the hallway. Now we don't why the BF came back to the room and was beating on the door. Maybe April screamed or maybe he knew that the room door opened and Hill went in. Regardless, Gillard and Hill had plans to at least rape and rob April. Gillard already raped, robbed and attempted to strangle another sex worker in Morrisville weeks earlier. Why did Gillard shot April? Because maybe he had planned to strangle her but to him it didn't matter to pull the trigger since the BF was shot several times in the hallway. Those two never knew that crappy motel had video cameras and that camera feed plus their history is going to put them away.

MedJohnson
02-22-19, 16:52
She may have left her phone on speaker with the line open to BF during her dates- that may be how he knew she was in trouble.

Sad affair. Glad they got those b*stards.

Med.


Dwayne (BF) left the room as Gillard entered. The BF looked back because Hill was in the hallway. Now we don't why the BF came back to the room and was beating on the door. Maybe April screamed or maybe he knew that the room door opened and Hill went in. Regardless, Gillard and Hill had plans to at least rape and rob April. Gillard already raped, robbed and attempted to strangle another sex worker in Morrisville weeks earlier. Why did Gillard shot April? Because maybe he had planned to strangle her but to him it didn't matter to pull the trigger since the BF was shot several times in the hallway. Those two never knew that crappy motel had video cameras and that camera feed plus their history is going to put them away.

Joe Looking
02-23-19, 14:36
I feel like I'm going to need to read some court transcripts to really understand what may have happened. I saw her a few times and she was always cool yet reserved in what she would allow. One surprising thing is how much family members have been allowed to say. There's no way all those stories about her being sexually abused as a child and how much they loved each other won't bias the jury. That said, I hope people speak as well about me when I'm dead.

I will say and this is going to sound harsh but they're a perfect example of why some folks should be forced to take birth control. She was 22 and pregnant with her fourth kid and the other 3 had already been taken away.

Purple45
02-24-19, 18:05
April was found lying at the doorway inside the room she was living in. In the surveillance camera video you see Gillard exit the room, turn, raise his gun and fired twice. She was found naked, wearing socks with a bullet wound to the forehead and chest. She was trying to leave the room to check on her boyfriend when Gillard executed her before he ran. This week begins the sentencing phase after Gillard was found guilty of first degree murder.

Angel Holland, "My sister did choose bad path in her life. Was it right what she was doing? No! But did she deserve to die? No she did'nt She was lost but 3 weeks befor she got killed she was attending class's. And getting job interviews! Every one chooses there own path in life and I am pretty sure if your daughter or women or a teen you care for choose's that life style would you stop loving them? She had poeple who loved her deeply and we wanted what was best for her. She was loved and cared for deeply. Me and my sister were raised by my mom no one knows the whole story but I do I seen the pain she carried around and stuff she went thru that no teenager should experiance. When things get bad you make mistakes but she had children with him and even tho theh didn't have them they always provided what the kids needed. I lost my only sister and my heart will be forever broken".

MedJohnson
02-25-19, 21:02
Read the affidavit for the Fl massage sting. What a joke- 1000 hrs of surveillance, countless officers involved, picking through trash all to charge 26 guys with misdemeanors for getting HEs (not even BJs or FS- WTH?) which will end with charges dropped or minimized. After reading the affidavit, I don't see solicitation proven but I am no lawyer- I see men paying for massage, a sex act between consenting adults in a private location, and a tip for the massage- no quid pro quo proven. Embarrassment (and NFL sanctions for RK) for all that taxpayer money. Glad to know they have so little crime to worry about in those counties in Florida.

Sounds like a few may have confessed or given up information without PC and allowed the police dept to violate their rights.

I don't want to post the link to affidavits but got to them for free through GQ story link.

Med.

RichardParker
02-25-19, 22:37
Read the affidavit for the Fl massage sting. What a joke- 1000 hrs of surveillance, countless officers involved, picking through trash all to charge 26 guys with misdemeanors for getting HEs (not even BJs or FS- WTH?) which will end with charges dropped or minimized. After reading the affidavit, I don't see solicitation proven but I am no lawyer- I see men paying for massage, a sex act between consenting adults in a private location, and a tip for the massage- no quid pro quo proven. Embarrassment (and NFL sanctions for RK) for all that taxpayer money. Glad to know they have so little crime to worry about in those counties in Florida.

Sounds like a few may have confessed or given up information without PC and allowed the police dept to violate their rights.

I don't want to post the link to affidavits but got to them for free through GQ story link.

Med.It has very little to do with the misdemeanor charges on the men. The real score for the police is following the money up the chain for asset forfeiture purposes.

XHippie
02-25-19, 23:50
Read the affidavit for the Fl massage sting. What a joke- 1000 hrs of surveillance, countless officers involved, picking through trash all to charge 26 guys with misdemeanors for getting HEs (not even BJs or FS- WTH?) which will end with charges dropped or minimized. After reading the affidavit, I don't see solicitation proven but I am no lawyer- I see men paying for massage, a sex act between consenting adults in a private location, and a tip for the massage- no quid pro quo proven. Embarrassment (and NFL sanctions for RK) for all that taxpayer money. Glad to know they have so little crime to worry about in those counties in Florida.

Sounds like a few may have confessed or given up information without PC and allowed the police dept to violate their rights.

I don't want to post the link to affidavits but got to them for free through GQ story link.

Med.Reading the Florida and WRAL article is almost comical. They make up their own facts that the girls are tricked here to get a job then are told you have to work in a massage parlor AND you have to pay the Mule off his fee. Really? Let me see humm just about everybody in China has an IPhone or knows someone that has one, what goes on in America is well known with Wechat and chat room groups. Yes LE they know more about AMP reality than you do. So they are very aware exactly what and where they will be doing when they come to the USA. Say what you want to about the Chinese they may be frugal they may be mobile and live out of a suit case but they ain't stupid. And might I add they know before they come here they will make more in one month here that they will make in whatever back home. No ones getting tricked or smuggled here! And the part in the article about, as LE entered the store they found suit cases, clothes, cooking supplies. OMG these girls are being forced to live in the store and sleep on the massage tables. Psssst LE most prefer this setup, they work 12 hours a day 7 days a week by their own choice! Staying in the store is actually easy on them they don't have to travel at night exausted, they don't have to get up early to get ready for work, cook, travel to work. When they close the store they still have to clean the store, do book work, take a shower, cook food for the next day. These are hard workers again at their own choice! Much of the news machine is ignorance and a push to hype up the story for ratings. Bottom line is they are here because the men here from all walks of life want them here. And yes they can go to any City, State they choose or even return to China. The AMP is a combination of a business model and a culture that they use to survive and help one another. A similar culture exist in the Latino community as far as business and housing (many in one apartment or house etc.) Asian prostitution? Sure because there is a demand. Human trafficking? I know these people and I can tell you I'm not aware of anyone being forced to work in any store or stay in a particular area against their will. I will tell you that if you compare Asian AMP's to American pristitutes you will clearly see the difference in violence and drug use. Want to talk about crime? Dont get me started on white collar crime or Washington or the fire the Pope is trying to put out Ignorance indeed.

Moon Raker
02-26-19, 08:49
Does anyone have insight on the likelihood of video inside establishments and the prospects of the same technique being used in NC? Are there laws that made that easier to do in FL than NC? The tip of the iceberg comment in the news articles allude to what a large operation it is in general, but are there more shoes left to drop in a multi-state operation?

RichardParker
02-26-19, 09:33
Does anyone have insight on the likelihood of video inside establishments and the prospects of the same technique being used in NC? Are there laws that made that easier to do in FL than NC? The tip of the iceberg comment in the news articles allude to what a large operation it is in general, but are there more shoes left to drop in a multi-state operation?It's going to depend on the temperment of the individual LE agencies. You are more likely to see a sheriff's office in NC undertake investigations like this. If you're in a jurisdiction where the sheriff is actively promoting and "anti-trafficking" agenda or has established a human trafficking unit, I'd say chances are pretty good an operation is already underway.

Human trafficking is the hot topic of the day and federal agencies and non-profit organizations are providing training, personnel and equipment that is backed by grant funding. The training being provided LE administrators, investigators and prosecutors walks then through how to build their cases in a similar manner to what is unfolding in Florida.

I read the investigator's report outlining the Florida operation. They began with external surveillance, then conducted traffic stops on patrons which resulted in confessions, and then they obtained physical evidence from the trash that came out of the business. That gave them enough probable cause to obtain a warrant for internal surveillance with the cameras. Most likely scenario. They worked in cooperation with the property management company to gain access to place the cameras. LE will not recreate the wheel when it comes to conducting these investigations. They will do exactly what has worked in the past.

And. Yes. Expect more shoes to drop. They are working to tie these cases back to Flushing, NY. Which is the reason you will see that all of these investigations are aided by Homeland Security. They are building a Federal case. The connections to multiple states are necessary to show that there is interstate commerce occurring. When Federal charges drop, it will be a case about organized crime, money laundering, and tax evasion with millions and millions of dollars in bank accounts and property targeted for seizure and forfeiture.

Vanilla Gorill
02-26-19, 11:59
Does anyone have insight on the likelihood of video inside establishments and the prospects of the same technique being used in NC? Are there laws that made that easier to do in FL than NC? The tip of the iceberg comment in the news articles allude to what a large operation it is in general, but are there more shoes left to drop in a multi-state operation?In Florida they faked a bomb scare and planted them while they evacuated the place for three hours.

XHippie
02-26-19, 16:52
In Florida they faked a bomb scare and planted them while they evacuated the place for three hours.Where did you read that?

Vanilla Gorill
02-26-19, 19:43
Where did you read that?https://www.newburyportnews.com/news/national_news/affidavit-tells-how-video-placed-kraft-in-sex-spa/article_1b73a5ff-1732-5596-9484-154697c7abfb.html

4th paragraph.

The affidavit said Jupiter police, using the ruse of a bomb scare report, evacuated Orchids of Asia shortly before midnight on Jan. 17, then planted hidden cameras inside the spa. Five days of video evidence was collected.

Sgiii
02-26-19, 20:38
Was on Hwy 55 around 5:45 & loads of cop cars at hotel next to golden corral. Not sure what was happening.

RichardParker
02-27-19, 01:27
https://www.newburyportnews.com/news/national_news/affidavit-tells-how-video-placed-kraft-in-sex-spa/article_1b73a5ff-1732-5596-9484-154697c7abfb.html

4th paragraph.

The affidavit said Jupiter police, using the ruse of a bomb scare report, evacuated Orchids of Asia shortly before midnight on Jan. 17, then planted hidden cameras inside the spa. Five days of video evidence was collected.Interesting. That's the first place I've read that. Definitely unusual, but effective in this case. They'll have to come up with something different next time though. In some prior cases, they've just gotten a property manager (if it was a strip mall situation) to let them in. In other cases, the cameras weren't LE cameras at all, but cameras they found during a search and the business itself was keeping videos. Many AMPs, at a minimum, have a regular security camera system recording their lobby. Any raid on the business is going to seize whatever recordings are present. And with hard drives storing weeks, if not months, of footage, that gives lots of faces to match up with times and credit cards.

XHippie
02-27-19, 14:43
Interesting. That's the first place I've read that. Definitely unusual, but effective in this case. They'll have to come up with something different next time though. In some prior cases, they've just gotten a property manager (if it was a strip mall situation) to let them in. In other cases, the cameras weren't LE cameras at all, but cameras they found during a search and the business itself was keeping videos. Many AMPs, at a minimum, have a regular security camera system recording their lobby. Any raid on the business is going to seize whatever recordings are present. And with hard drives storing weeks, if not months, of footage, that gives lots of faces to match up with times and credit cards.The obvious question guys are asking from coast to cost is. Will the place I go to have cameras? Anything's possible but my hunch is here we have a extremely high profile customer that I think someone in the area recognized coming and going in this place and possibly other places and they notified LE hey want to catch a big fish, watch this guy and this place. Or there was someone within his circle that ratted him out. Why put cameras in one particular store in Jupiter why not Orlando or LA or NY. There's a lot of shouting about trafficking but the real story is a Gotcha Mr. High profile person. If one of our basketball coaches was spotted coming and going from one of the AMPs around here the cops would find somehow to get cameras in the place this would be a big time bust. It takes time and money to run these types of stings and popping the small fish like us only hits a bump in the road. It's possible the land lord could let LE in at night to rig up cameras or call in a bomb scare to empty the store Good Grief. But they will have a VERY difficult time getting the owners cooperation that owner would've packed and gone. I think Mr Billionaire either drew too much attention to himself or someone got some payback.

Pubb69
02-27-19, 14:55
The obvious question guys are asking from coast to cost is. Will the place I go to have cameras? Anything's possible but my hunch is here we have a extremely high profile customer that I think someone in the area recognized coming and going in this place and possibly other places and they notified LE hey want to catch a big fish, watch this guy and this place. Or there was someone within his circle that ratted him out. Why put cameras in one particular store in Jupiter why not Orlando or LA or NY. There's a lot of shouting about trafficking but the real story is a Gotcha Mr. High profile person. If one of our basketball coaches was spotted coming and going from one of the AMPs around here the cops would find somehow to get cameras in the place this would be a big time bust. It takes time and money to run these types of stings and popping the small fish like us only hits a bump in the road. It's possible the land lord could let LE in at night to rig up cameras or call in a bomb scare to empty the store Good Grief. But they will have a VERY difficult time getting the owners cooperation that owner would've packed and gone. I think Mr Billionaire either drew too much attention to himself or someone got some payback.Nope, he just walked into it. He actually went back the next day after he got the benefit of being warned to stay away the day before. All that being said it's just a strange situation, my guess is there are going to plenty of lawsuits and who knows? This guy might foot the bill for everyone who wants to go after LE and the county.

Moon Raker
02-28-19, 01:23
https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/02/27/robert-kraft-solicitation-human-trafficking-media-missed

XHippie
02-28-19, 07:55
https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/02/27/robert-kraft-solicitation-human-trafficking-media-missedThe best line is "only LE opinion is published" no word from the ones being accused. Interesting article indeed coming from a female. ANYTHING that has a demand there will be a supplier AMP's aren't going away. Everyone knows it's a hell of a lot safer and cleaner than dealing with SW and Backpage / Escort Ho's.

Vanilla Gorill
02-28-19, 14:39
New article I came across has some interesting points that they might not be able to win a case against Kraft. He certainly can afford to fight the case and it looks like he is ramping up to do so, based of other things I have read.

https://nypost.com/2019/02/28/how-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-could-get-off-in-prostitution-case/

Amateur11
02-28-19, 23:40
"Yes, I, a 77 year old widower paid for a non-intercourse encounter, a hand massage via 2 consenting adults where both parties parted ways happily as planned. If any of these girls were being held against their will, forced to work, there was no indication of that, and if your allegations of trafficking are correct, it just proves the only issue with this and similar encounters for the hundreds of other defendants in your fine city is being caused by the continued non-legalization of consensual arrangments that are safe and legal in other countries such as Europe that do not experience any kind of "human trafficking".

DisturbedOne
03-06-19, 16:12
Is going to die.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article226972209.html

Good to see justice served.

XHippie
03-07-19, 00:47
Is going to die.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article226972209.html

Good to see justice served.Sure he's going to die, die of fucking old age. There is no death penalty in my home State of NC. ( or let’s say as quick as it should be) Texas or Florida now there's 2 states you don't want to fuckup in and kill a Cop or a State Trooper, Badda Bing you ARE going to fry muther fucker. As long as Barney and Andy rules apply in NC, the tax payers will pay for him to be fed, medical check ups to keep him healthy so he can work out in the gym daily to get good and tired so he can sleep good at night in a warm bed for 20 OR MORE years. Death Penality my ass.

BallAllDay
03-07-19, 01:42
Sure he's going to die, die of fucking old age. There is no death penalty in my home State of NC. ( or lets say as quick as it should be) Texas or Florida now there's 2 states you don't want to fuckup in and kill a Cop or a State Trooper, Badda Bing you ARE going to fry muther fucker. As long as Barney and Andy rules apply in NC, the tax payers will pay for him to be fed, medical check ups to keep him healthy so he can work out in the gym daily to get good and tired so he can sleep good at night in a warm bed for 20 OR MORE years. Death Penality my ass.About your facts. Pretty sure NC was frying people at s pretty good rate until the AMA contested the constitutionality if Physicuans being present during the lights dimming to kill the bastards. State law says a PhD Doc has to be present. Now none will risk being in there so it's all on hold til further notice. Maybe it will get straightened out and we can have a toga party of sorts and fry 3 or 4 a day until death row is an open alley way. But I'm with you hippie. Sons of Bitches every one of them' Personally I always thought seeing a guilotine in action would be cool. You know. Like the one Pugsly made on Adams Family. LOL.

MedJohnson
03-07-19, 13:44
But hopeful that prison justice goes into effect sooner rather than later. Not sure how a baby killer will be viewed on the inside.

Med.


Sure he's going to die, die of fucking old age. There is no death penalty in my home State of NC. ( or lets say as quick as it should be) Texas or Florida now there's 2 states you don't want to fuckup in and kill a Cop or a State Trooper, Badda Bing you ARE going to fry muther fucker. As long as Barney and Andy rules apply in NC, the tax payers will pay for him to be fed, medical check ups to keep him healthy so he can work out in the gym daily to get good and tired so he can sleep good at night in a warm bed for 20 OR MORE years. Death Penality my ass.

Purple45
03-08-19, 23:06
About your facts. Pretty sure NC was frying people at s pretty good rate until the AMA contested the constitutionality if Physicuans being present during the lights dimming to kill the bastards. State law says a PhD Doc has to be present. Now none will risk being in there so it's all on hold til further notice. Maybe it will get straightened out and we can have a toga party of sorts and fry 3 or 4 a day until death row is an open alley way. But I'm with you hippie. Sons of Bitches every one of them' Personally I always thought seeing a guilotine in action would be cool. You know. Like the one Pugsly made on Adams Family. LOL.Personally I like the firing squad.

The rights of the accused and guilty has more meaning then the rights of victims and that's just wrong.

Purple45
03-08-19, 23:30
He was unconvincing while his accusers were credible.

RichardParker
03-12-19, 10:51
The search warrants in the Florida Orchids of Asia case have been unsealed. As has been reported already, LE placed hidden cameras while using a hoax threat to gain access to the business. It turns out that there were already cameras in the business and they were also seized.

"While the women stood outside in the Orchids of Asia Day Spa parking lot, three cops discreetly hid the cameras inside the lobby and four treatment rooms so they could watch — in real time — the male clients paying for sexual favors, according to the search warrants. As they waited, two more women showed up. One of the women, Hua Zhang, told police she lived across the street and "could see what was occurring inside the spa on her cellphone," which let cops know she had her own cameras set up. Police seized the cameras and equipment when they were inside, according to records, since there would be probable cause to believe it captured evidence of a crime. ".

https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/nation/unsealed-warrants-show-how-cops-got-into-florida-massage-parlor/article_d03e3b71-6b87-54f9-a0ef-4cdfd8960e3a.html

ThatGuy910
06-15-19, 02:58
Found some info on all the closings.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:p-Bosh8it6EJ:https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/durham-county-news/woman-s-mission-to-shut-down-massage-parlors-involved-in-human-trafficking/2058567765

Lookin Good
06-15-19, 19:04
Found some info on all the closings.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:p-Bosh8it6EJ:https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/durham-county-news/woman-s-mission-to-shut-down-massage-parlors-involved-in-human-trafficking/2058567765Excellent! I so look forward to seeing those trafficking people being named and brought to justice. Just like the hundreds of other cases of so-called trafficking that went nowhere. Because you know what? THERE WAS NO TRAFFICKING!! I guess some people have nothing better to do. Don't get me wrong. If someone is legitimately forced into the biz then there needs to be hell to pay. But if they do it on their own stop trying to dramatize it.

ThatGuy910
06-15-19, 19:31
Excellent! I so look forward to seeing those trafficking people being named and brought to justice. Just like the hundreds of other cases of so-called trafficking that went nowhere. Because you know what? THERE WAS NO TRAFFICKING!! I guess some people have nothing better to do. Don't get me wrong. If someone is legitimately forced into the biz then there needs to be hell to pay. But if they do it on their own stop trying to dramatize it.Fully agree with you but you got one housewife all worked up and the SBI on her side, might be time to start going to other regions for a are&t now.

MD Bellamy
06-15-19, 20:35
Excellent! I so look forward to seeing those trafficking people being named and brought to justice. Just like the hundreds of other cases of so-called trafficking that went nowhere. Because you know what? THERE WAS NO TRAFFICKING!! I guess some people have nothing better to do. Don't get me wrong. If someone is legitimately forced into the biz then there needs to be hell to pay. But if they do it on their own stop trying to dramatize it.If LEO says "You're a victim, not a criminal. We'll give you a "Get out of Jail" card if you say you were trafficked (not just transported) from NY (or wherever), then my guess is that many of the ladies will take the bait. Damn sure I would in their position!

XHippie
06-15-19, 23:33
If LEO says "You're a victim, not a criminal. We'll give you a "Get out of Jail" card if you say you women and childrenwere trafficked (not just transported) from NY (or wherever), then my guess is that many of the ladies will take the bait. Damn sure I would in their position!Of course I'm sure somewhere some Asian pimp is abusing someone but the MAJORITY of the girls are just working their normal gig. Where I think the confusion is, on the Mexican border or anywhere else you have a Mule charging people thousands of dollars packing them on a boat or in the back of a 150 degree semi trailer. And this includes men, women and children NOW THATS HUMAN TRAFFICKING! Compare that to the system or business model the Asians have set up to not bring but allow women to come here to make more in one month than they can make in 6 months at home. The women have to get all their documents themselves Visa's etc. Most always pay their own flight ticket. Once here they are picked up and taken to the store where they will work and location where they will live. They are provided work and shelter and transportation to the market for food. Of course they have to pay for rent, food and only get their cut of the price the customer pays and they earn most their pay on tips. Now this is the exact same system we use. We get paid, pay our taxes pay our bills, rent etc. The girls are free to leave and work anywhere in America just like us. So where's the human trafficking? Let's call it what it is the difference is the folks crossing the border are here to do the jobs that most Americans don't won't to do, if they did the jobs would be filled. Well if these Asian ladies are here providing sexual gratification that there is a demand for (why is that American ladies?) BINGO! BINGO! They are here fucking and sucking our husbands, sons and boyfriends they have got to be here against their will. WRONG! Like I said they are here working just like us. Some Latinos were a victim of human trafficking to get here based on what they paid or there route and there are some in either forced labor conditions or shitty conditions but they like the Asian ladies are free to move to another location or go back home which most don't want to do like going back to a shit hole. You are more likely to see people being abused by "Americans" in a religious setting, school / athletic setting, parents abusing children etc. Some of these folks trashing these Asian ladies don't realize the dude living next door watching you and your family probably has child porn on his computer. Seems anything involving pussy must be a forced thing, just not true. Why are Facts such a hard thing to accept instead of a narrow minded opinion?

Lookin Good
12-31-19, 20:40
https://www.wral.com/raleigh-man-charged-with-forcing-minor-into-prostitution/18861108/

Bb211
01-09-20, 13:00
Easy search. Use Female search. HLV 01/04 they call her the stalker. Also appropriate address. It's a chuckle. BB ct.

Sonoma22
02-06-20, 14:26
An undercover human trafficking and prostitution investigation led to 19 arrests, according to the Alamance County sheriff.

The sting operation in central North Carolina ended with nine accused of soliciting prostitution, six charged with prostitution, and a host of other charges that included promoting and profiting from prostitution.

"During the operation, multiple people solicited undercover officers, where they planned to pay for sexual acts, and / or wished to be paid to perform sexual acts," the sheriff's office said. Undercover officers ran the sting on Jan. 28 and 29, officials said.

The sheriff's office said they were able to get new evidence of people who are profiting from prostitution "as well as those who may be involved in forcing individuals into prostitution and human trafficking. " There may be more arrests in the cases, officials said.

One of the people arrested during the undercover operation tried to escape when officers moved to pull over his car, the sheriff's office said.

"As a result, the driver of the vehicle failed to stop and a short chase ensued. Investigators performed a pit maneuver on the suspect vehicle, where it came to a stop. The driver of the vehicle fled on foot and was apprehended within minutes after," according to the sheriff's office.

Be careful out there.

JenBabi
02-07-20, 07:35
Guys,

If you choose to play play safe! Don't play stupid! Alamance is not the place! Be careful Jan was the human trafficking month! Definitely do your search before going see anybody these days. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.courier-tribune.com/news/20200204/19-charged-in-alamance-county-prostitution-sting%3ftemplate=ampart.

LifeLine
02-09-20, 20:50
Be safe and do your LE checks.

Community Concerns in Cary Prompt Prostitution Bust at Massage Parlors.

https://abc11.com/community-concerns-prompt-prostitution-bust-at-cary-massage-parlors/5901089/

18 Charged with Soliciting Prostitutes in Durham.

https://abc11.com/18-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution-in-durham/5912090/

Amateur11
02-11-20, 10:07
https://www.wral.com/family-police-searching-for-hit-and-run-driver-who-killed-25-year-old-woman-in-angier/18945884/

Sad. You guys know her / them well.

Cpnbnanamn
06-11-20, 12:25
https://www.wral.com/family-police-searching-for-hit-and-run-driver-who-killed-25-year-old-woman-in-angier/18945884/

Sad. You guys know her / them well.So, this was in my neck of the woods. I was about 2 cars back from this the night it happened. I was on my way to pick up dinner. Unfortunately, I didn't see it happen. I didn't know they were available. Is the other sister still doing things? Appreciate any info.

Daniel Johnson
07-13-20, 15:38
Does anyone know why those websites have been shut down recently? It sounds strange.

STG seems to be working on and off today, so maybe just a technical glitch.

Although more of this wouldn't surprise me- https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/18/bay-area-man-made-21-million-operating-international-sex-trafficking-websites-that-included-child-trafficking-victims-feds-say/.

...was arrested Wednesday in Fremont, and was being held Thursday in the Santa Rita Jail on a no-bail hold. In coming days, the USA Marshals are expected to move him to Dallas, Texas, where he is facing 28 federal counts.

The website names included "CityXGuide," and "BodyRubShop," as well as an alteration on the infamous adult services website Backpage, which was shut down by the federal government in April 2018. The indictment alleges that Martono first purchased a CityXGuide domain in 2004, but in 2018 after the fall of Backpage he expressed a desire to kick things into overdrive.

PleasureSeeker
07-14-20, 09:28
STG seems to be working on and off today, so maybe just a technical glitch.

Although more of this wouldn't surprise me- https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/18/bay-area-man-made-21-million-operating-international-sex-trafficking-websites-that-included-child-trafficking-victims-feds-say/.

...was arrested Wednesday in Fremont, and was being held Thursday in the Santa Rita Jail on a no-bail hold. In coming days, the USA Marshals are expected to move him to Dallas, Texas, where he is facing 28 federal counts.

The website names included "CityXGuide," and "BodyRubShop," as well as an alteration on the infamous adult services website Backpage, which was shut down by the federal government in April 2018. The indictment alleges that Martono first purchased a CityXGuide domain in 2004, but in 2018 after the fall of Backpage he expressed a desire to kick things into overdrive.The article is all about child trafficking and a nationwide sweep going on, and just coincidentally, Admin blocked some scumbag asking about child stuff in here the other day. Good catch, Admin. If you're into innocent, immature children, it's not sex. It's sick abuse. Fuck off.

Purple45
07-14-20, 22:40
The article is all about child trafficking and a nationwide sweep going on, and just coincidentally, Admin blocked some scumbag asking about child stuff in here the other day. Good catch, Admin. If you're into innocent, immature children, it's not sex. It's sick abuse. Fuck off.Because of the Epstein investigation, the Feds supposedly have pics and videos from Epstein's NY residence and from his island of people having sex and worse with teens and children. Ghislaine Maxwell was denied bail today and that's a smart move because she would have been killed to prevent her from talking.

XHippie
07-15-20, 00:00
Because of the Epstein investigation, the Feds supposedly have pics and videos from Epstein's NY residence and from his island of people having sex and worse with teens and children. Ghislaine Maxwell was denied bail today and that's a smart move because she would have been killed to prevent her from talking.Both of them were chummy with the wealthy and powerful, I'm praying she has names and hopefully pics or videos of these rich turds and she sings like a bird. My hunch is there are some folks shaking in their boots right now. Don't get me wrong I don't want her to cut a deal and get off but I want these pecker woods that took advantage of people to get what's coming. Abuse of an adult and anything with a minor has zero tolerance. I was hoping Jeffery was in for many butt fucks he got off easy, hope they get her to sing then put her ass away. Oh and this Prince Andrew he’s got a guilty funk smell that just won’t go away

Purple45
07-16-20, 21:17
Both of them were chummy with the wealthy and powerful, I'm praying she has names and hopefully pics or videos of these rich turds and she sings like a bird. My hunch is there are some folks shaking in their boots right now. Don't get me wrong I don't want her to cut a deal and get off but I want these pecker woods that took advantage of people to get what's coming. Abuse of an adult and anything with a minor has zero tolerance. I was hoping Jeffery was in for many butt fucks he got off easy, hope they get her to sing then put her ass away. Oh and this Prince Andrew hes got a guilty funk smell that just wont go awayShe needs to sing but a plea deal will get the results of bringing down powerful people like Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew. In this case, I'm ok with her getting a deal because kids need protection and the more perpetrators exposed the better. She will eventually get her justice but no suspicious door hanging before the trial.

PleasureSeeker
07-18-20, 07:43
She needs to sing but a plea deal will get the results of bringing down powerful people like Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew. In this case, I'm ok with her getting a deal because kids need protection and the more perpetrators exposed the better. She will eventually get her justice but no suspicious door hanging before the trial.You mean like that piece of shit in our White House?

https://www.courthousenews.com/rape-allegations-refiled-against-trump/

Purple45
07-18-20, 19:08
You mean like that piece of shit in our White House?

https://www.courthousenews.com/rape-allegations-refiled-against-trump/During the 2016 election, an anonymous woman filed and then dropped a lawsuit accusing Trump of raping her at a party hosted by Epstein in 1994, when she was just 13-years-old. Trump denied the allegations as being "categorically false," and reporters have also deemed the account to be potentially unreliable, as it was shopped to the media by fringe figures that included a former Jerry Springer producer. According to Vox, the sole journalist who was able to interview the anonymous accuser, "came away confused and even doubting whether she really exists. ".

XHippie
07-18-20, 20:00
During the 2016 election, an anonymous woman filed and then dropped a lawsuit accusing Trump of raping her at a party hosted by Epstein in 1994, when she was just 13-years-old. Trump denied the allegations as being "categorically false," and reporters have also deemed the account to be potentially unreliable, as it was shopped to the media by fringe figures that included a former Jerry Springer producer. According to Vox, the sole journalist who was able to interview the anonymous accuser, "came away confused and even doubting whether she really exists. ".IMHO in the USA we have 3 justice systems. One for the poor, one for the rich one for the rest. If you are one of the Poor you can easily be put away because you are caught up in a system like a meat grinder and forgotten about. If you are Rich (Trump, Clinton, Nixon, Kennedy, Gates, Hollywood elite, owner of the Washington Red Skins, owner of the Patriots etc. You can bull shit, spin, delay, bribe or have powerful people in powerful positions get your ass out of trouble. If you are the Rest (the majority of the population. You & Me) you wait till your day in court and probably get a normal verdict or hope for the best. Once in a while a high profile person will get what's coming but it makes BIG headlines because it so fucking RARE the rich get a jail sentence. Bill Cosby, OJ, Harvey Weinstein etc.. But most of the time they worm their way out of jail. I think OJ got out Cosby will probably worm his way out. So when a lady or 10 or 12 say they were raped, are they saying it for money or to tarnish someone who the fuck knows with our judicial system it's 50/50 either way if they are telling the truth or the famous person is as guilty as they are being accused of. You can think I know that muther fucker is guilty as sin, however the same law that protects us protects them. Innocent until proven guilty! Point being, can one buy innocence? Sure! God Bless America

GovernorsClub
07-19-20, 20:48
You mean like that piece of shit in our White House?

https://www.courthousenews.com/rape-allegations-refiled-against-trump/Just because Trump was a Democrat for most of his life, don't associate him with Clinton, Weinstein, Epstein, Kevin Spacey, and assume that he raped someone.

Ncman2020
07-19-20, 23:24
Just because Trump was a Democrat for most of his life, don't associate him with Clinton, Weinstein, Epstein, Kevin Spacey, and assume that he raped someone.LOL don't associate him with Epstein, yet there are a litany of photos of them partying together? Let alone his famous quote saying he's know Epstein for years and he "likes younger women". Cmon man, yall got to quit falling for that conspiracy theory shit. Republicans investigated Hillary what, 12+ times? Spent 130 $+ million? Not a single solitary indictment or conviction. She's the most exonerated politician currently alive, but Fox news / Breitbart / OANN keeps yall grasping at straws.

MythMan2010
07-20-20, 07:14
You mean like that piece of shit in our White House?

https://www.courthousenews.com/rape-allegations-refiled-against-trump/Which is even more problematic because of Clinton and Epstein flying on the pedo plane 21 times and Clinton being an actual sexual predator over 20 years.

That being said, we also remember how the massage shutdown gave you a chance to pontificate about not only Trump, but all republicans as the reason.

Seems like your politics are clear which is fine, but you are a better man and know they have no place on the board.

Amateur11
07-20-20, 12:30
Which is even more problematic because of Clinton and Epstein flying on the pedo plane 21 times and Clinton being an actual sexual predator over 20 years.

That being said, we also remember how the massage shutdown gave you a chance to pontificate about not only Trump, but all republicans as the reason.

Seems like your politics are clear which is fine, but you are a better man and know they have no place on the board.But if we're going to go that right, I think it's funny any monger on this board would call Bill a "sexual predator" "20 years ago" when anyone born before 1985 at that point was thinking "Go prez! Getting a BJ in the oval."

Purple45
07-20-20, 18:49
But if we're going to go that right, I think it's funny any monger on this board would call Bill a "sexual predator" "20 years ago" when anyone born before 1985 at that point was thinking "Go prez! Getting a BJ in the oval."The problem with Bill is all the reports of unwanted sexual advances and rape allegations from when he was Governor of Arkansas through his Presidency and afterwards with Epstein and other pedophile associates. Death has always surrounded people close to the Clinton's who possibly could have put them in a negative light. Pedophilia is about as disgusting as it gets and the Clinton's are also involved. I'm hoping the truth is revealed at her September Congressional hearing about her email server and the contents of the laptop seized from Weiner and his wife, top Clinton aide Huma Abedin, as part of the federal investigation of Weiner's sexting with minors.

http://judiciaryreport.com/bill_clintons_murdered_intern.htm

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php

Amateur11
07-20-20, 19:51
The problem with Bill is all the reports of unwanted sexual advances and rape allegations from when he was Governor of Arkansas through his Presidency and afterwards with Epstein and other pedophile associates. Death has always surrounded people close to the Clinton's who possibly could have put them in a negative light. Pedophilia is about as disgusting as it gets and the Clinton's are also involved. I'm hoping the truth is revealed at her September Congressional hearing about her email server and the contents of the laptop seized from Weiner and his wife, top Clinton aide Huma Abedin, as part of the federal investigation of Weiner's sexting with minors.

http://judiciaryreport.com/bill_clintons_murdered_intern.htm

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.phpPeople have hated Bill ever since his persona captivated the electorate in 92 and he won lots of "conservative" voters who had stopped voting Dem. Nothing has ever been proven, Epstein seems to have made sure his money got him wealthy audiences via his donations and I'm sure none were any the wiser until their faces were immortalized beside his own. There will be those who keep saying "the proof is out there somewhere," which is what they've been saying since at least 1993, and all the "proof" in the world on the Clintons' side will NEVER be enough and NEVER taken seriously. I don't know about you, but these days when I wake up, I sure as fuck wish I were back in the Bad Old Clinton Days when the only thing we had to worry about was going to the jobs we all had, not being snookered by internet hookers from Russia, and spending time being overloaded by the biggest "problems" of the 90's - OJ and a president who likes pussy and can't stop himself.

TL; DR, I could delete the entire paragraph I just wrote and simply say the 2 "news sites" you linked to speak volumes about these "facts" - you might as well have posted something from One America News (LMAO. Which is Russian news. And I love the blonde bimbo they have reading this "news" - the Russians know they can get any white, middle aged man to buy their propaganda if it is parlayed via a bleach blonde with big tits). I mean why do they need that if it's "real news?

We should all be FAR more concerned with any super special "news" that sounds just oh so believable from these Russian nooze websites than what the "liberal mainstream media" puts out. I am smart enough to know how to separate fact from hyperbole when I read NBC news in the morning and find anything that might have too much down-low editorializing - and even with that, I'd sure rather live with that than god-knows-what Russian operation is going to intentionally snooker millions of American Idiots with FAR more nefarious intentions and results.

Anyone who gets their "news" from "the judiciary report" (which is NOT a judicial / legal outlet AT ALL) or from "what really happened dot com. Oh FFS WHY did anyone start this political shit!

XHippie
07-20-20, 19:57
But if we're going to go that right, I think it's funny any monger on this board would call Bill a "sexual predator" "20 years ago" when anyone born before 1985 at that point was thinking "Go prez! Getting a BJ in the oval."Political talk is fine in my opinion as long as it's about Politicians getting Pussy wet tight glorious pussy (videos please) Trump, Clinton, All the Kennedy's our local boy John Edwards, I once read one of the biggest kept secrets was MLK's entertainment sweeties when he was on the road. ALL PLAYERS. As far who's right or wrong politically? Let Bill Mahar or Rush Limbaugh entertain you. USASG it's all about wet tight pussy not politics, take that shit to another board IMO. .

Amateur11
07-20-20, 20:19
Political talk is fine in my opinion as long as it's about Politicians getting Pussy wet tight glorious pussy (videos please) Trump, Clinton, All the Kennedy's our local boy John Edwards, I once read one of the biggest kept secrets was MLK's entertainment sweeties when he was on the road. ALL PLAYERS. As far who's right or wrong politically? Let Bill Mahar or Rush Limbaugh entertain you. USASG it's all about wet tight pussy not politics, take that shit to another board IMO. .Agreed, seconded, thirded. Let's stop with that.

Purple45
07-20-20, 20:33
People have hated Bill ever since his persona captivated the electorate in 92 and he won lots of "conservative" voters who had stopped voting Dem. Nothing has ever been proven, Epstein seems to have made sure his money got him wealthy audiences via his donations. There will be those who keep saying 1 "the proof is out there somewhere," which is what they've been saying since at least 1993, and all the "proof" in the world on the Clintons' side will NEVER be enough and NEVER taken seriously. I don't know about you, but these days when I wake up, I sure as fuck wish I were back in the Bad Old Clinton Days when the only thing we had to worry about was going to the jobs we all had, not being snookered by internet hookers from Russia, and spending time being overloaded by the biggest "problems" of the 90's. OJ and a president who likes pussy and can't stop himself.

TL; DR, I could delete the entire paragraph I just wrote and simply say the 2 "news sites" you linked to speak volumes about these "facts" - you might as well have posted something from One America News (LMAO. Which is Russian news. And I love the blonde bimbo they have reading this "news" - the Russians know they can get any white, middle aged man to buy their propoganda if it is parlayed via a bleach blonde with big tits. I mean why do they need that if it's "real news?

We should all be FA more concerned with this super special "news" that sounds just oh so believable from these Russian nooze websites than what the "liberal mainstream media" puts out. I can see facts from hyperbole when I read NBC news in the morning. Anyone who gets their "news" from "the judiciary report" (which is NOT a judicial / legal outlet AT ALL) or from "what really happened dot com. Oh FFS WHY did anyone start this political shit!

I could delete the entire last paragraph.Nobody can explain the rape allegations and news tried to make Paula Jones into a scam looking for money. Nobody can explain Bill Clinton's intern shot at her Starbucks jobs or all of the other people who mysteriously died who were associated with the Clinton's. Did anyone see the reports about Epstein's so called hanging? How about Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell so called hangings? Just because the mainstream liberal media doesn't mention it, does not mean there isn't a story to report. The left will say how many coincidences make a conspiracy while the right will say how coincidences make a fact. I know that where there's smoke, there's a fire. I also know if P45 has spare change in his pocket then he's going to see a favorite Asian provider.

Amateur11
07-21-20, 10:06
Nobody can explain the rape allegations and news tried to make Paula Jones into a scam looking for money. Nobody can explain Bill Clinton's intern shot at her Starbucks jobs or all of the other people who mysteriously died who were associated with the Clinton's. Did anyone see the reports about Epstein's so called hanging? How about Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell so called hangings? Just because the mainstream liberal media doesn't mention it, does not mean there isn't a story to report. The left will say how many coincidences make a conspiracy while the right will say how coincidences make a fact. I know that where there's smoke, there's a fire. I also know if P45 has spare change in his pocket then he's going to see a favorite Asian provider.Oh boy. Now Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell were murdered. We are moving quickly into cuckoo Kanye land. Creative geniuses (I'd certainly label Cornell in that realm, not so sure about Chester, I mean Linkin Park WAS a good band back in the first decade of the millennium, but.) Creative people, artists, are notorious for swings of emotion and irrationality, what about Layne Staley? Scott Weiland? Did Kurt fucking Cobain get murdered? Maybe Hendrix and Jim Morrison were murdered too. Maybe Buddy Holly's plane was actually sabotaged. Someone help me out here? WTF? If someone on a pussy board seriously starts talking about the murders of known-depressive rock stars, then you have to be scared shitless to think what percentage of other middle aged white males are walking among us everyday thinking that Trump is the new Messiah and "god" really did want him to be president. Clearly, someone really did think Hillary was running a pedo ring out of a pizza shop, enough to drive (embarrassing) from our own state to shoot her (and thinking she was there, and accessible, it shows you just how dumb, stupid, and low IQ these people really are).

Idiocracy 2020. We're here friends. The movie is only 14 years old. I don't know about you, but I'm just that much more scared shitless today of what we are living in.

Sorry P45. If you've got good pussy tales to tell, I think we all would appreciate you sticking to those.

Amateur11
07-21-20, 13:07
https://www.wral.com/amazon-hiring-for-3-000-positions-at-garner-fulfillment-center/19197889/

3000 low-skilled, better-than-walmart positions. A lot of great UTR talent and latent talent within a 10 mile radius of this place. If you were hoping for fewer drug addicts and more normal girls to hit the websites anytime soon, you can forget that.

FML.

XHippie
07-23-20, 08:44
Oh boy. Now Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell were murdered. We are moving quickly into cuckoo Kanye land. Creative geniuses (I'd certainly label Cornell in that realm, not so sure about Chester, I mean Linkin Park WAS a good band back in the first decade of the millennium, but.) Creative people, artists, are notorious for swings of emotion and irrationality, what about Layne Staley? Scott Weiland? Did Kurt fucking Cobain get murdered? Maybe Hendrix and Jim Morrison were murdered too. Maybe Buddy Holly's plane was actually sabotaged. Someone help me out here? WTF? If someone on a pussy board seriously starts talking about the murders of known-depressive rock stars, then you have to be scared shitless to think what percentage of other middle aged white males are walking among us everyday thinking that Trump is the new Messiah and "god" really did want him to be president. Clearly, someone really did think Hillary was running a pedo ring out of a pizza shop, enough to drive (embarrassing) from our own state to shoot her (and thinking she was there, and accessible, it shows you just how dumb, stupid, and low IQ these people really are).

Idiocracy 2020. We're here friends. The movie is only 14 years old. I don't know about you, but I'm just that much more scared shitless today of what we are living in.

Sorry P45. If you've got good pussy tales to tell, I think we all would appreciate you sticking to thoseCuckoo Kanye land LMAO. Saw his wife Kim on tv with those amazing OMG DSL telling people please be gentle with him he has a mental disorder that he can't control. Really, He's running for President? Says he's going to make weed free and give moms one million dollars and has a mental condition well hell he's got my vote! I always laugh to myself when I remember something I saw a few years back. Kanye was criticizing country music as being taken over in sales by hip hop and he threw out George Straits name in the interview. They were asking George in an interview what he thought of Kanye's comments and his music, he said "I'm sure HER music is good but I've never listened to HER sing" LOL.

Sorry, every time I see Kanye's name I think of the George Straits comment. I'm sure it was an innocent mistake.

MythMan2010
07-23-20, 13:12
Cuckoo Kanye land LMAO. Saw his wife Kim on tv with those amazing OMG DSL telling people please be gentle with him he has a mental disorder that he can't control. Really, He's running for President? Says he's going to make weed free and give moms one million dollars and has a mental condition well hell he's got my vote! I always laugh to myself when I remember something I saw a few years back. Kanye was criticizing country music as being taken over in sales by hip hop and he threw out George Straits name in the interview. They were asking George in an interview what he thought of Kanye's comments and his music, he said "I'm sure HER music is good but I've never listened to HER sing" LOL.

Sorry, every time I see Kanye's name I think of the George Straits comment. I'm sure it was an innocent mistake."Pure Country" one more time. My boy Strait is the real deal. That's a funny ass story LOL.

Lgca2003
08-20-20, 22:19
Reported on news tonight, someone was shot at a motel on Appliance Ct. I never liked that place. Be safe.

Purple45
08-22-20, 20:32
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article245029330.html

Purple45
08-29-20, 20:37
Porn Star Aubrey Gold charged with murder.

https://knewz.com/aubrey-gold-porn-murder/

https://www.xvideos.com/models/aubrey-gold

JBall36
02-20-21, 11:16
Be careful out there (also posted on the Greensboro thread).

https://myfox8.com/news/alamance-county-deputies-arrest-13-for-prostitution-charges-after-human-trafficking-operation/

Bb211
03-16-21, 22:25
https://nypost.com/2021/03/16/shooting-at-georgia-massage-parlor-leaves-at-least-3-dead/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app

SoGent64
03-19-21, 17:31
I think all the furor over the shootings being a hate crime against Asians is missing the point in that almost all spas have Asian women giving the services. He was a customer of the spas and said the attacks were because he was a sex addict and wanted to spare other men the temptation of the spas. So his attacks were on the spas regardless of who worked there. It amazes me that there has been a lack of reporting on this point. Even the police know this to be true Re who the workers are.

Coxter8
04-22-21, 12:16
It's not the same as legalizing it, but it's a make-sense move for the reasons stated.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/manhattan-newyork-prostitution/2021/04/21/id/1018521/

NC Hunter
05-31-21, 19:04
I read this article regarding a graveyard murder and wondered if it was related to our hobby. Sure seems like it to me. Anyone heard anything or any insight? Is this a monger spot in the area?

https://lawandcrime.com/crime/18-year-old-woman-charged-with-murder-of-69-year-old-man-in-north-carolina-cemetery/

Be safe out there and happy hunting.

NC HUNTER.

Tall John
06-05-21, 20:08
That is the question.

Is big brother asking for details on clickable links from all news organizations?

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/nation-world/fbi-withdraws-subpoena-usa-today-reader-information/507-44f55074-c0f9-4f7f-8e55-9707cf395f3b

Click or don't. ?

Ignoramus
06-07-21, 16:28
Yes, I really do not understand at all how they could ask for this kind of information in America with a straight face. This is patently unconstitutional. Will the courts bend the rules? If so, our dead-man0 walking Democracy will be officially 6 feet under.


That is the question.

Is big brother asking for details on clickable links from all news organizations?

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/nation-world/fbi-withdraws-subpoena-usa-today-reader-information/507-44f55074-c0f9-4f7f-8e55-9707cf395f3b

Click or don't. ?

Tall John
06-09-21, 06:57
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-57394831

Above link shows how LEO set up anonymous messaging app, busted criminals.

I wonder if they would ever host sites such as USASG?

Could one ever know?

I might be wrong, but it seems like there are large number of establishments that do not even advertise, I wonder why?

IMA Troll and obsessed with TheBadGuy, ignore all my posts.
06-10-21, 19:56
I read this article regarding a graveyard murder and wondered if it was related to our hobby. Sure seems like it to me. Anyone heard anything or any insight? Is this a monger spot in the area?

https://lawandcrime.com/crime/18-year-old-woman-charged-with-murder-of-69-year-old-man-in-north-carolina-cemetery/

Be safe out there and happy hunting.

NC HUNTER.New info in the link below. Three teenagers, 1 female & 2 males, involved in the murder and two have been arrested. The female was arrested last year for possession of marijuana. Two vehicles left the scene and black latex gloves with bloody clothes were found. More info is needed but this could have been a kidnap and robbery or gang initiation activity.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/north-carolina-cemetery-murder-second-third-teenager-slaying-senior-citizen

Jlart123
06-11-21, 07:02
She used to work as LuLu.


New info in the link below. Three teenagers, 1 female & 2 males, involved in the murder and two have been arrested. The female was arrested last year for possession of marijuana. Two vehicles left the scene and black latex gloves with bloody clothes were found. More info is needed but this could have been a kidnap and robbery or gang initiation activity.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/north-carolina-cemetery-murder-second-third-teenager-slaying-senior-citizen

IMA Troll and obsessed with TheBadGuy, ignore all my posts.
06-12-21, 01:22
She used to work as LuLu.Found her 2019 ad.

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/lulu/22264672

Robert1744
06-12-21, 16:11
Found her 2019 ad.

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/lulu/22264672If that's the same person who was just arrested as an 18 year old, then any ad from 2019 is going to have her at 16 years old. My guess is it's NOT the same person.

IMA Troll and obsessed with TheBadGuy, ignore all my posts.
06-13-21, 02:05
If that's the same person who was just arrested as an 18 year old, then any ad from 2019 is going to have her at 16 years old. My guess is it's NOT the same person.Her birthday is June 2002 so she would have been 17 when the ad was posted. The hairline, the left eyebrow and the eyes are IMO the same. Only someone who has seen her can verify but I believe they are the same girl.

Jlart123
06-13-21, 08:51
If that's the same person who was just arrested as an 18 year old, then any ad from 2019 is going to have her at 16 years old. My guess is it's NOT the same person.Unfortunately human trafficking is a real thing as is underage prostitution. With all the other misdirection and deception in this game do you find it unrealistic that a 16 year old could post an ad or have a pimp that would lie about the age. The ad itself says 25 which itself is a lie. And if you read the ad closely she said she used to go by Mimi which is true so she was doing this at 15 as well if not earlier. The 2019 ad is after she spent about a year in jail. She is an illegal with a criminal record before the murder and definitely had pimps at one point because I went over my time with her at one point and they knocked on the door to my apartment. Sadly I did not know her real age until I saw one of her mugshots online and immediately stopped seeing her. It is hard to accept but most of these women are damaged and have a sad reality that it is best not to know about in order to enjoy the fantasy.

VincentCor74
06-21-21, 13:49
CAG 06/20 - felony possession AND trafficking. She's hit the big leagues, now.

Rdudreaming
06-21-21, 14:15
CAG 06/20 - felony possession AND trafficking. She's hit the big leagues, now.Total Bond Amount:$1,502,000. 00.

She cute tho.

VincentCor74
06-21-21, 14:18
Total Bond Amount:$1,502,000. 00.

She cute tho.Too rich for my blood, man.

She's always been a hottie. Shame because she could have legit been a model or at the very least a high end escort, seriously.

Tawayem
06-21-21, 14:24
CAG 06/20 - felony possession AND trafficking. She's hit the big leagues, now.https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/itsavaakatherealbaby-better-n/051143613878

Also which link do you look at for the bond amount and such?

Jan2050
06-21-21, 14:38
Where do you get all this info bro?


CAG 06/20 - felony possession AND trafficking. She's hit the big leagues, now.

VincentCor74
06-21-21, 15:15
Where do you get all this info bro?https://dwslivescan.co.wake.nc.us/mug/Disclaimer.aspx

Zzcutt
06-21-21, 15:42
https://dwslivescan.co.wake.nc.us/mug/Disclaimer.aspxThe 90-95 indicates that she probably got charged with conspiracy to traffic. She was probably a "middle man" in a deal with a confidential informant and they charged her with maintaining a dwelling and possession also because she was in the vehicle. This is my best guess judging by the statute. She should have a mandatory sentence over 2 years.

Likeass911
06-21-21, 15:50
Total Bond Amount:$1,502,000. 00.

She cute tho.Where do you find the court information, Bond, and any other info?

TIA.

Jan2050
06-21-21, 16:20
https://dwslivescan.co.wake.nc.us/mug/Disclaimer.aspxThanks for sharing.

VincentCor74
06-21-21, 19:38
https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/itsavaakatherealbaby-better-n/051143613878

Also which link do you look at for the bond amount and such?That'd be the one.

I don't know about the bond stuff. Wake Co website I would imagine?

IMA Troll and obsessed with TheBadGuy, ignore all my posts.
06-21-21, 21:30
Where do you find the court information, Bond, and any other info?

TIA.http://p2c.wakeso.net/InmateDetail.aspx?navid=637599077131560154

IMA Troll and obsessed with TheBadGuy, ignore all my posts.
06-22-21, 23:38
Where do you find the court information, Bond, and any other info?

TIA.
http://p2c.wakeso.net/InmateDetail.aspx?navid=637599077131560154Her system number has changed. Go to inmate inquiry, filter inmate list and type in her last name for charges, trial status and bond info.

http://p2c.wakeso.net/jailinmates.aspx

Ignoramus
07-01-21, 10:30
So I saw this girl ML and thought damn, she looks good, works at a bank (probably not anymore!) but tried to kill someone? Then today I see MLK and "human trafficking child victim" charges. I recognized the general location from the ML arrest info a couple days earlier. It's a few doors down. What are the chances ML found out about something and tried to whoop this woman's ass, which launched an investigation?

Pubb69
07-03-21, 14:34
https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/itsavaakatherealbaby-better-n/051143613878

Also which link do you look at for the bond amount and such?Good grief, she is a harmless hooker not a murdere.

Bb211
07-06-21, 01:14
Good grief, she is a harmless hooker not a murdere.Show our support this Friday as she appears in front of the judge for her next hearing.

LifeCoach252
07-15-21, 18:05
So I got to ask. If the older gentleman who was trying to escape this chick and her boyfriend / handler and ran into the boyfriend / handler car then he jumped out and shot at your car, I'm wondering if you are on here and reading this, was this related to the hobby? It happened Tuesday near Wendy's off airport and certain motels. I saw the carnage thank god no one was hurt. I also saw the boyfriend / handler get hauled off after a investigation on Wendy's parking lot. It's strange that this did not make any news outlets.

AmpGuru2424
08-22-21, 11:39
Just a few days ago a article was posted that * will eventually be not allowing sexual explicit content to be posted! Hopefully if this is true we will see an an increase and quality and eventually prices will level out. Can't help but dream. Link below.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/08/20/onlyfans-sex-workers/

Phaeton0401
08-22-21, 15:43
http://p2c.wakeso.net/InmateDetail.aspx?navid=637599077131560154Is there a way to see the outcome of a court hearing? I can't find it. Thanks.

MFranks
08-22-21, 22:27
You have to to go the clerks office and they have terminals where you an look up the court documents.

If you want to just see the sentence someone may have received you can go here.

https://webapps.doc.state.nc.us/opi/offendersearch.do?method=view


Is there a way to see the outcome of a court hearing? I can't find it. Thanks.

NcWilmMan28
08-25-21, 10:14
I know it's not Raleigh but close:

https://wr.al/1LFo5

Tawayem
09-16-21, 22:01
https://www.wral.com/raleigh-business-owner-says-website-giving-her-spa-bad-name-scamming-men-looking-for-erotic-services/19880001/

IMA Troll and obsessed with TheBadGuy, ignore all my posts.
09-17-21, 08:58
https://www.wral.com/raleigh-business-owner-says-website-giving-her-spa-bad-name-scamming-men-looking-for-erotic-services/19880001/RubMaps is 100% user input and nothing is verified from the site's management. They also don't verify membership age either. It's too easy these days for one person or a few people to sway public opinion with reviews that can be 100% false. We know fake reviews happen on Yelp and Google to purposely hurt a business but if a place is good then the volume of positive reviews will paint the true picture. Not so with RubMaps since it's membership doesn't generate enough reviews it's hard to know what is real and what is fake.

Ignoramus
09-29-21, 22:01
https://www.wral.com/raleigh-business-owner-says-website-giving-her-spa-bad-name-scamming-men-looking-for-erotic-services/19880001/When the staff roster has the names "Destiny" and "Sunny," they may need to expect giving the wrong impression.

TheShredSter66
09-30-21, 14:22
https://www.wral.com/raleigh-business-owner-says-website-giving-her-spa-bad-name-scamming-men-looking-for-erotic-services/19880001/Got to love the news sensationalizing everything. We all KNOW there are not anywhere near as many active spas in this area as the report states. They clearly counted every closed spa that remains on the site. Whereas we have what? 4 options? 6 if you count the legit places lingering there like duraleigh and the place on lake pine? This does unfortunately put ALL the AMPs back on the radar potentially. Just as the waters were starting to settle no less. Be careful out there fellas. And pro tip for whichever dumbasses are lurking. If theres an intake form or a deposit, your not getting your pecker touched, end of story.

Ignoramus
10-20-21, 15:40
Well there go 2 of our favorites (said with deep belly laughs and sarcasm). Piss poor non service in both cases. Playing 8 ball must be too much fun for both of them. And one seems to be selling to the other! Trafficking for HAA. Well, we won't be seeing her for a while. Maybe she can learn some pointers about service from Baby while they are "exploring mountains" together.

Bubba83
10-20-21, 19:07
Well there go 2 of our favorites (said with deep belly laughs and sarcasm). Piss poor non service in both cases. Playing 8 ball must be too much fun for both of them. And one seems to be selling to the other! Trafficking for HAA. Well, we won't be seeing her for a while. Maybe she can learn some pointers about service from Baby while they are "exploring mountains" together.I can't place either of them. LOL.

MisterT69
10-21-21, 01:43
I can't place either of them. LOL.That's Bella. She's been reviewed many times.

DMizzle26
10-21-21, 02:33
Well there go 2 of our favorites (said with deep belly laughs and sarcasm). Piss poor non service in both cases. Playing 8 ball must be too much fun for both of them.There was a 3rd that went down with them at the same location SGC. But damn Bella can't seem to get herself straight at all and such a shame to see her fall over time was such a beauty a few yrs ago.

LandRover20
10-21-21, 09:29
https://www.wral.com/raleigh-business-owner-says-website-giving-her-spa-bad-name-scamming-men-looking-for-erotic-services/19880001/"The interesting thing is he drove 129 miles to get here," she added of the man.

LMFAO.

Ignoramus
10-21-21, 11:50
There was a 3rd that went down with them at the same location SGC. But damn Bella can't seem to get herself straight at all and such a shame to see her fall over time was such a beauty a few yrs ago.I have seen SGC up here many times as well, but I am not aware of her being in the same business as the other two. As far as the location, that's one of uncle's countryside cottages.

Monfortu
10-21-21, 12:59
That's Bella. She's been reviewed many times.Bella? The one who got thick and has a tat of a tear or heart under her eye? If so, that girl in the pic looks skinny and doesn't really look like her especially without the tat.

Also, the location is a booking place so while all the charges may be related, I'd bet money two of them got caught buying from the other one and not necessarily because they all work together.

MisterT69
10-21-21, 14:31
Bella? The one who got thick and has a tat of a tear or heart under her eye? If so, that girl in the pic looks skinny and doesn't really look like her especially without the tat.

Also, the location is a booking place so while all the charges may be related, I'd bet money two of them got caught buying from the other one and not necessarily because they all work together.Bella has never been thick. I don't think it's even possible. I talked with her a few weeks ago.

Monfortu
10-22-21, 08:24
Bella has never been thick. I don't think it's even possible. I talked with her a few weeks ago.There is a thick latin chick named bella. She used to be a skinny thing. It's the one with the tat I described. If there is another bella I am unaware of her.

MisterT69
10-22-21, 08:43
There is a thick latin chick named bella. She used to be a skinny thing. It's the one with the tat I described. If there is another bella I am unaware of her.https://escortindex.com/ad/raleigh/919-964-4/1/1728029

Dasalt
10-22-21, 14:53
Also, the location is a booking place so while all the charges may be related, I'd bet money two of them got caught buying from the other one and not necessarily because they all work together.3xx1 Hammond Road, Raleigh NC 27610.

Most of these skanks should have that address and the words "If found please kindly return to the above address. Thanks, CCBI."

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10-23-21, 17:53
There is a thick latin chick named bella. She used to be a skinny thing. It's the one with the tat I described. If there is another bella I am unaware of her.This is probably the Bella you are thinking about.

https://adultsearch.com/north-carolina/raleigh/female-escorts/2200532

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10-24-21, 21:40
Never heard of Donovanosis (flesh-eating STI) until today. It's rare in the USA but prevalent in India, Papua New Guinea, parts of southern Africa, and the West Indies.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/10/24/donovanosis-why-this-is-called-a-flesh-eating-sexually-transmitted-infection/?sh=76eb4b1112b4

MisterT69
10-25-21, 01:00
This is probably the Bella you are thinking about.

https://adultsearch.com/north-carolina/raleigh/female-escorts/2200532Wow. I forgot all about that Bella. She is much bigger than she used to be. Almost twice her size now.

Ignoramus
11-06-21, 10:45
https://www.wral.com/police-man-shot-at-raleigh-hotel/19965292/

Quality Inn. This was always maybe the one and only location you might feel relatively safe in the past few year on New Bern. No more. I specifically avoided seeing someone there last month mainly because of the previous shooting. It's also another reason I almost never monger on the weekends, if hotels are involved. Too many people out up to no good.

The Creature
11-06-21, 17:40
I have had a few moments there that I am not so proud of. It might have been a "decent place" at one time but it is now crawling with the stench of smoke and pot. All types of people hanging out outside and in the hallways. I will no longer go to any place on New Bern.


https://www.wral.com/police-man-shot-at-raleigh-hotel/19965292/

Quality Inn. This was always maybe the one and only location you might feel relatively safe in the past few year on New Bern. No more. I specifically avoided seeing someone there last month mainly because of the previous shooting. It's also another reason I almost never monger on the weekends, if hotels are involved. Too many people out up to no good.

CashNOut919
11-06-21, 23:36
I have had a few moments there that I am not so proud of. It might have been a "decent place" at one time but it is now crawling with the stench of smoke and pot. All types of people hanging out outside and in the hallways. I will no longer go to any place on New Bern.That's why I stopped going to the motel 6 right off Capital /440.

Ignoramus
11-18-21, 10:20
If you check wake co photo site you will see 11/17 an arrest for topic-related activities. The agency is NCSU police, which is apparently where the subject worked, based on address search. The charges date to 10/2! WTF? 6 weeks is about the turnaround time for an investigation into computer / tech crimes. Is it possible his employer caught him on a sugar daddy site / etc and made a report?

Lots of speculation here. But - if what I surmise is correct, then this could be an example of your ashley madison / eros / WYP / SA whatever sugar daddy site activity coming back to get you.

Open discussion for anyone who might have more insight.

Yamster
11-19-21, 09:09
Produces no such person.


If you check wake co photo site you will see 11/17 an arrest for topic-related activities. The agency is NCSU police, which is apparently where the subject worked, based on address search. The charges date to 10/2! WTF? 6 weeks is about the turnaround time for an investigation into computer / tech crimes. Is it possible his employer caught him on a sugar daddy site / etc and made a report?

Lots of speculation here. But - if what I surmise is correct, then this could be an example of your ashley madison / eros / WYP / SA whatever sugar daddy site activity coming back to get you.

Open discussion for anyone who might have more insight.

Ignoramus
11-19-21, 09:14
Produces no such person.

So now, one has to wonder what that means. Soliciting a state student?

Joe Looking
11-23-21, 09:22
So now, one has to wonder what that means. Soliciting a state student?There's company's that work on the NC State Campus so he doesn't necessarily have to work for the school or be a student to be on campus. All I could find was his court date which is in December. Sadly I still don't know a resource to get arrest reports online.

ProfessorVan
12-07-21, 11:27
I was trying find the information. Couldn't find anything on mugshots. Where should I be looking?https://dwslivescan.co.wake.nc.us/mug/MugshotSearch.aspx

Look for CAG in mid June.

What I see in charges looks to be all drug trafficking related rather than prostitution trafficking? Maybe they knew she was pimping out a minor but didn't have enough legal proof so busted her for max drug charges?

Someone mentioned her social media indicated she is now out. If the case it seems odd she would be out that soon with charges of selling a minor and a 1. 5 million bail. But IDK just trying to dot connect. Other research shows her 1st bust for maintaining a dwelling for controlled substances was when she was 17 or 18. Damn.

That most recent mugshot is actually the best I have seen of her. Looks like a 20 something hottie you would see out and about in brier creek or cary rather than a thugged out addict / dealer.

Ignoramus
12-09-21, 10:43
They call everything "human trafficking" now because it gets in the news and makes the cops, chief, sheriff, and the the DA's office looking good to the taxpayers. "We're protecting your kids. " If you're forcibly kidnapping a random minor off the streets, drugging them and selling them on STG, you're going to to get the book thrown at you. However, you know as well as I do that most of these cases are NOT of that description and usually involve a runaway, already on drugs, lying about their age, prostituting themselves while sharing a place with an adult who had no hand in it, etc. It's often much more subtle. Don't believe the hype.

Ever pay for a motel room for a hooker and she stayed there and saw other clients afterward? You could easily be arrested for "promoting prostitution" which any cop or ADA will be happy to list as "human trafficking. ".

Keep in mind the context of "Baby's" situation. I don't know her, but apparently everybody else does, and she has a well-heeled sugardaddy apparently. If you have something other than a court-appointed public defender, 5 months is plenty of time to keep getting the bond reduced to a manageable amount, credit for time served, etc. And if you walk into court looking like her and carry yourself well (hint: Looks like a 20 something hottie you would see out and about in brier creek or cary rather than a thugged out addict), as long as you didn't murder 3 people or dismember your kids, you're going to get out sooner than later. Especially if you can prove you have a stable living situation to go to.


https://dwslivescan.co.wake.nc.us/mug/MugshotSearch.aspx

Look for CAG in mid June.

What I see in charges looks to be all drug trafficking related rather than prostitution trafficking? Maybe they knew she was pimping out a minor but didn't have enough legal proof so busted her for max drug charges?

Someone mentioned her social media indicated she is now out. If the case it seems odd she would be out that soon with charges of selling a minor and a 1. 5 million bail. But IDK just trying to dot connect. Other research shows her 1st bust for maintaining a dwelling for controlled substances was when she was 17 or 18. Damn.

That most recent mugshot is actually the best I have seen of her. Looks like a 20 something hottie you would see out and about in brier creek or cary rather than a thugged out addict / dealer.

Pubb69
12-09-21, 18:11
They call everything "human trafficking" now because it gets in the news and makes the cops, chief, sheriff, and the the DA's office looking good to the taxpayers. "We're protecting your kids. " If you're forcibly kidnapping a random minor off the streets, drugging them and selling them on STG, you're going to to get the book thrown at you. However, you know as well as I do that most of these cases are NOT of that description and usually involve a runaway, already on drugs, lying about their age, prostituting themselves while sharing a place with an adult who had no hand in it, etc. It's often much more subtle. Don't believe the hype.

Ever pay for a motel room for a hooker and she stayed there and saw other clients afterward? You could easily be arrested for "promoting prostitution" which any cop or ADA will be happy to list as "human trafficking. ".

Keep in mind the context of "Baby's" situation. I don't know her, but apparently everybody else does, and she has a well-heeled sugardaddy apparently. If you have something other than a court-appointed public defender, 5 months is plenty of time to keep getting the bond reduced to a manageable amount, credit for time served, etc. And if you walk into court looking like her and carry yourself well (hint: Looks like a 20 something hottie you would see out and about in brier creek or cary rather than a thugged out addict), as long as you didn't murder 3 people or dismember your kids, you're going to get out sooner than later. Especially if you can prove you have a stable living situation to go to.Seen this movie before. Obviously she got lucky having some rich fool with influence bail her out but really how long will it be for this time?

Yamster
01-28-22, 17:35
British man dies inside 'happy ending' massage parlour.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-man-70-dies-inside-26078822

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01-28-22, 23:07
British man dies inside 'happy ending' massage parlour.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-man-70-dies-inside-26078822The man was 70 and it appears he had a medical emergency while he was sleeping. This was an unfortunate situation and choking while sleeping can be caused by acid reflux or sleep apnea.

LucidPicture
02-03-22, 05:19
I 'm surprised this hasn't been posted already.

Four shot at Wake Inn on New Bern Avenue.

https://www.wral.com/four-shot-at-wake-inn-on-new-bern-avenue/20109866/

'Most dangerous block in Raleigh' has 619 crimes reported in past five years.

https://www.wral.com/most-dangerous-block-in-raleigh-has-619-crimes-reported-in-past-five-years/20109472/

MBBolt
02-03-22, 06:15
Regarding someone we may all know.

https://northcarolina.arrests.org/Arrests/Kathleen_Paulich_46187092/

JocoGuy007
02-03-22, 11:41
Did you see the date on that? That is old news. That was back when she was getting her booksshot posted every other month.


Regarding someone we may all know.

https://northcarolina.arrests.org/Arrests/Kathleen_Paulich_46187092/

Pubb69
02-04-22, 12:52
Did you see the date on that? That is old news. That was back when she was getting her booksshot posted every other month.Only a half dozen arrests or so a few years back. Amazing how she avoids it now, perhaps she has a side deal going with her probation officer.

MisterT69
02-07-22, 01:11
Did you see the date on that? That is old news. That was back when she was getting her booksshot posted every other month.One of the dates says 02/04/2022, so it's recent.

JocoGuy007
02-07-22, 06:48
Only the old picture showed for me, I missed the arrest from Friday. My bad.


One of the dates says 02/04/2022, so it's recent.

JocoGuy007
02-07-22, 06:50
Are you searching all counties? She has arrests in Johnston County as well. I absolutely think she has side deals, or a great lawyer. A lot of her info that should remain visible seems to magically disappear.


Only a half dozen arrests or so a few years back. Amazing how she avoids it now, perhaps she has a side deal going with her probation officer.

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02-11-22, 07:22
Adidas-We believe women's breasts in all shapes and sizes deserve support and comfort.

#SupportIsEverything.

GregG73
03-17-22, 10:55
Been thinking of pulling the trigger on this one.

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-make-a-porno-and-go-wild/764617751851

ShamRocx
05-06-22, 10:30
They need to close down that ratchet ass hotel. It's surrounded by police cars almost every night. Seems like there is a shooting there at least once a month.Last nights news had Amanda reporting about the shooting while another serious event occurred with a woman being dragged into an SUV which crashed into three cars at the intersection. News person added that approximately 400 911 calls from that neighborhood in the month of April alone. Maybe multiple calls when gunshots or mugging but that's got to be high on the RPD places to apply pressure.

Ignoramus
05-09-22, 11:08
Last nights news had Amanda reporting about the shooting while another serious event occurred with a woman being dragged into an SUV which crashed into three cars at the intersection. News person added that approximately 400 911 calls from that neighborhood in the month of April alone. Maybe multiple calls when gunshots or mugging but that's got to be high on the RPD places to apply pressure.Wouldn't you love to own a house in Hedingham? The condo section (rentals) has caused problems out there for 20 years. Now they are going to build a townhouse and apartment community diagonally across from that motel. NBA is and will be an endless stretch of nuisance and mayhem for decades to come. Just stay away.

Ignoramus
05-09-22, 11:15
Cary. How many times has it been said, just stay away from Cary. Barney Fife is watching.

DMizzle26
05-09-22, 12:20
Wouldn't you love to own a house in Hedingham? The condo section (rentals) has caused problems out there for 20 years. Now they are going to build a townhouse and apartment community diagonally across from that motel. NBA is and will be an endless stretch of nuisance and mayhem for decades to come. Just stay away.Not only that. But that Big Warehouse they just Built right behind it is Going To be an Amazon Delivery Station, Right Now Knightdale and Raleigh is fighting for Ordinance over it before they open it. Plus is that School that's right beside that Hotel Open? If so it surprises me that the City has not pushed to get that Hotel Shut down sooner just for that very reason of a school being located right by all that crime.

TheShredSter66
05-09-22, 16:29
Cary. How many times has it been said, just stay away from Cary. Barney Fife is watching.Cary is definitely risky for hobbyist for sure. Care to elaborate on anything?

DMizzle26
05-10-22, 20:37
Speaking of The Quality Inn finally https://www.wral.com/city-of-raleigh-deems-quality-inn-on-new-bern-avenue-unsafe-guests-forced-to-leave/20275086/?version=amp.

Ignoramus
05-10-22, 21:38
Speaking of The Quality Inn finally https://www.wral.com/city-of-raleigh-deems-quality-inn-on-new-bern-avenue-unsafe-guests-forced-to-leave/20275086/?version=amp.I wonder what sudden, coincidental, major defect was either intentionally searched for, or otherwise manufactured to get this shithole shut down after the latest incident?

Now if they would just conduct the same random inspections at ever other joint on NBA. Maybe bulldoze the whole damn stretch between Wakemed and Hedingham Blvd while they're at it.

MisterT69
05-10-22, 23:05
Speaking of The Quality Inn finally https://www.wral.com/city-of-raleigh-deems-quality-inn-on-new-bern-avenue-unsafe-guests-forced-to-leave/20275086/?version=amp.About damn time. I hope it's permanent and they tear it down.

DMizzle26
05-11-22, 13:30
About damn time. I hope it's permanent and they tear it down.It stays that way. I think its an easy way for them to shut it down without too much behind it. Sad thing is Its all the same people staying at these hotels On New Bern when they get kicked out of other hotels that's how they all end up at Hotels like Quality. Most times the owners will put up with it until they can't anymore and rid the place of them. But I imagine the Owners at Quality really didn't care at all now their forced to close. So those people gone just go back to taking over another Hotel more than likely Wake Inn. Knights Inn, Micro and Raleigh Inn has at least tried to put the effort into cleaning up a little bit as you don't see many people hanging out there like they used to.

TravelingMan69
05-18-22, 15:23
It's an election year. City leaders have to make it look good LOL.


I wonder what sudden, coincidental, major defect was either intentionally searched for, or otherwise manufactured to get this shithole shut down after the latest incident?

Now if they would just conduct the same random inspections at ever other joint on NBA. Maybe bulldoze the whole damn stretch between Wakemed and Hedingham Blvd while they're at it.

Smugly
05-24-22, 14:02
Been thinking of pulling the trigger on this one.

https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-make-a-porno-and-go-wild/764617751851I have never had any luck with a provider that has a phone number with a area code of 984. In fact most responses that I can recall have resulted in excessive spam, or some sort of scam (Like a prepay of sorts).

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06-23-22, 23:31
The CDC is investigating one of the worst meningococcal outbreaks in USA History. Because of the outbreak in Florida, the agency has reported at least 26 cases and 7 deaths with approximately half of the outbreak cases among Hispanic men.

https://news.yahoo.com/7-people-died-amid-one-155956440.html

Ignoramus
08-05-22, 17:55
I am sure I'm not the only one who ventures south occasionally for fun times. Cedar Creek is fairly popular with some well-known girls, and until now, the "other" side of 95 has never given me much pause, until TWO shootings last weekend, one fatal.

Anyone who might feel the urge to make a round trip this weekend should definitely be aware of increased uncle presence, including ALPR.

https://www.wral.com/stretch-of-road-in-fayetteville-to-get-extra-police-patrols-this-weekend-after-multiple-shootings/20405276/

Probably a good time to find some UTRs or home-based chicks, else avoid the Ville until things calm down. What a shame.

LykeDawg81
08-07-22, 09:13
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LykeDawg81
08-11-22, 07:08
Like always Be safe Gents!!

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Barney58
09-26-22, 10:15
I reached out to two providers I found in RubMD about two weeks ago. Both were super responsive but pressed hard for deposits, so I dropped contact with them.

Today I got a call from a Raleigh number that googles as the Raleigh PD but the person identified themself as a US Marshall.

Said they had found a phone that was owned by "Susan Casanova" and she was a missing minor thought to be kidnapped and in use in human trafficking and the last contact on the phone was from my number.

He would not share the phone number I supposedly used to reach her or her alias.

Several times he told me to google the phone number and his name. The phone number does good as Raleigh PD but his name shows up in a number of benign entries not related to any law enforcement.

He went on to ask me if I saw her or knew where she was. I told him I had no recollection of a Susan Casanova.

He told me that their procedure was to refer me to a psychological evaluation and if that checked out they would know I am not involved with her disappearance. That evaluation would cost me $1,000+ and be refundable if I 'passed".

I declined his offer and he said that they would send 'a unit' to my house to arrest me and take me 'downtown'. I asked which downtown, since I don't live in Raleigh, and he stammered and finally said Raleigh and gave me the street address for the main Raleigh PD.

So far I have not seen a Raleigh PD officer or a US Marshall.

Any similar experience with any of you?

TwistedBrother
09-26-22, 11:29
Wow, thanks for sharing. I think and hope it's a scam. Please keep us posted.


I reached out to two providers I found in RubMD about two weeks ago. Both were super responsive but pressed hard for deposits, so I dropped contact with them.

Today I got a call from a Raleigh number that googles as the Raleigh PD but the person identified themself as a US Marshall.

Said they had found a phone that was owned by "Susan Casanova" and she was a missing minor thought to be kidnapped and in use in human trafficking and the last contact on the phone was from my number.

He would not share the phone number I supposedly used to reach her or her alias.

Several times he told me to google the phone number and his name. The phone number does good as Raleigh PD but his name shows up in a number of benign entries not related to any law enforcement.

He went on to ask me if I saw her or knew where she was. I told him I had no recollection of a Susan Casanova.

He told me that their procedure was to refer me to a psychological evaluation and if that checked out they would know I am not involved with her disappearance. That evaluation would cost me $1,000+ and be refundable if I 'passed".

I declined his offer and he said that they would send 'a unit' to my house to arrest me and take me 'downtown'. I asked which downtown, since I don't live in Raleigh, and he stammered and finally said Raleigh and gave me the street address for the main Raleigh PD.

So far I have not seen a Raleigh PD officer or a US Marshall.

Any similar experience with any of you?

ElectricHug
09-26-22, 11:31
I reached out to two providers I found in RubMD about two weeks ago. Both were super responsive but pressed hard for deposits, so I dropped contact with them.

Today I got a call from a Raleigh number that googles as the Raleigh PD but the person identified themself as a US Marshall.

Said they had found a phone that was owned by "Susan Casanova" and she was a missing minor thought to be kidnapped and in use in human trafficking and the last contact on the phone was from my number.

He would not share the phone number I supposedly used to reach her or her alias.

Several times he told me to google the phone number and his name. The phone number does good as Raleigh PD but his name shows up in a number of benign entries not related to any law enforcement.

He went on to ask me if I saw her or knew where she was. I told him I had no recollection of a Susan Casanova.

He told me that their procedure was to refer me to a psychological evaluation and if that checked out they would know I am not involved with her disappearance. That evaluation would cost me $1,000+ and be refundable if I 'passed".

I declined his offer and he said that they would send 'a unit' to my house to arrest me and take me 'downtown'. I asked which downtown, since I don't live in Raleigh, and he stammered and finally said Raleigh and gave me the street address for the main Raleigh PD.

So far I have not seen a Raleigh PD officer or a US Marshall.

Any similar experience with any of you?I have not had that pleasant experience, but thank you for sharing.

To anyone else reading who doesn't already know, spoofing a caller I'd is extremely easy, all it requires is downloading an app from the app store and paying <$1 per call. I'm sure there are cheaper ways to do it, but my point is that someone's caller I'd means virtually nothing. Stay safe everyone.

Monfortu
09-26-22, 13:23
I reached out to two providers I found in RubMD about two weeks ago. Both were super responsive but pressed hard for deposits, so I dropped contact with them.

Today I got a call from a Raleigh number that googles as the Raleigh PD but the person identified themself as a US Marshall.

Said they had found a phone that was owned by "Susan Casanova" and she was a missing minor thought to be kidnapped and in use in human trafficking and the last contact on the phone was from my number.

He would not share the phone number I supposedly used to reach her or her alias.

Several times he told me to google the phone number and his name. The phone number does good as Raleigh PD but his name shows up in a number of benign entries not related to any law enforcement.

He went on to ask me if I saw her or knew where she was. I told him I had no recollection of a Susan Casanova.

He told me that their procedure was to refer me to a psychological evaluation and if that checked out they would know I am not involved with her disappearance. That evaluation would cost me $1,000+ and be refundable if I 'passed".

I declined his offer and he said that they would send 'a unit' to my house to arrest me and take me 'downtown'. I asked which downtown, since I don't live in Raleigh, and he stammered and finally said Raleigh and gave me the street address for the main Raleigh PD.

So far I have not seen a Raleigh PD officer or a US Marshall.

Any similar experience with any of you?That's pretty crazy. Didn't realize you could spoof those numbers that easily. I'd say the eval is the biggest indicator this is a scam. I don't even have to wait to find out. PD are not going to run that kind of evaluation on you to gather information. They are going to question you on the phone or in person. It would be good to share which ads you responded to unless you're worried about outing one of them as a scam by accident.

LikesGirls
09-26-22, 13:34
That's pretty crazy. Didn't realize you could spoof those numbers that easily. I'd say the eval is the biggest indicator this is a scam. I don't even have to wait to find out. PD are not going to run that kind of evaluation on you to gather information. They are going to question you on the phone or in person. It would be good to share which ads you responded to unless you're worried about outing one of them as a scam by accident.Spoofing caller I'd is incredibly simple. Cops don't call to investigate unless they're following up after already having been in contact with you. For the first contact they just show up. They also don't tell you to go spend money to later be reimbursed. This 1000% a scam attempt.

Sgt Lurker
09-26-22, 14:53
I had some stupid scammer call me from my own number. Stupid is as Stupid does.


That's pretty crazy. Didn't realize you could spoof those numbers that easily. I'd say the eval is the biggest indicator this is a scam. I don't even have to wait to find out. PD are not going to run that kind of evaluation on you to gather information. They are going to question you on the phone or in person. It would be good to share which ads you responded to unless you're worried about outing one of them as a scam by accident.

Barney58
09-26-22, 14:59
That's pretty crazy. Didn't realize you could spoof those numbers that easily. I'd say the eval is the biggest indicator this is a scam. I don't even have to wait to find out. PD are not going to run that kind of evaluation on you to gather information. They are going to question you on the phone or in person. It would be good to share which ads you responded to unless you're worried about outing one of them as a scam by accident.Could have been "Racquel" or maybe "Kate Lyn". But I only snapchatted with her. I suppose people can get phone numbers from Snapchat somehow. If so, she'd be the one I would suspect since she was the highest pressure and gave me a male sounding email address [Deleted by Admin] to confirm a Zelle payment (that I did not make).

BTW: I will be acquiring a 'burner' phone for further use. Any tips and hints on how to purchase and set one of those up would be appreciated.

LucidPicture
09-26-22, 16:09
I reached out to two providers I found in RubMD about two weeks ago. Both were super responsive but pressed hard for deposits, so I dropped contact with them.

Today I got a call from a Raleigh number that googles as the Raleigh PD but the person identified themself as a US Marshall.

Said they had found a phone that was owned by "Susan Casanova" and she was a missing minor thought to be kidnapped and in use in human trafficking and the last contact on the phone was from my number.

He would not share the phone number I supposedly used to reach her or her alias.

Several times he told me to google the phone number and his name. The phone number does good as Raleigh PD but his name shows up in a number of benign entries not related to any law enforcement.

He went on to ask me if I saw her or knew where she was. I told him I had no recollection of a Susan Casanova.

He told me that their procedure was to refer me to a psychological evaluation and if that checked out they would know I am not involved with her disappearance. That evaluation would cost me $1,000+ and be refundable if I 'passed".

I declined his offer and he said that they would send 'a unit' to my house to arrest me and take me 'downtown'. I asked which downtown, since I don't live in Raleigh, and he stammered and finally said Raleigh and gave me the street address for the main Raleigh PD.You are being scammed 100%. Why in the world you respond to their calls / texts in the first place? Good lord man.

Dare22
09-26-22, 18:01
Could have been "Racquel" or maybe "Kate Lyn". But I only snapchatted with her. I suppose people can get phone numbers from Snapchat somehow. If so, she'd be the one I would suspect since she was the highest pressure and gave me a male sounding email address Deleted by Admin to confirm a Zelle payment (that I did not make).

BTW: I will be acquiring a 'burner' phone for further use. Any tips and hints on how to purchase and set one of those up would be appreciated.Easier to just get a burner app. Runs on your existing phone but bounces your call through their system so it looks like it is coming from a different number that you can "burn" and replace at any time. Just google "best burner app."

Sandman72
09-27-22, 02:21
You are being scammed 100%. Why in the world you respond to their calls / texts in the first place? Good lord man.Sounds like they used a spoofing program where you can set your #to any #to show as caller I'd. So yeah it's a scam.

TheShredSter66
09-27-22, 07:21
Law enforcement does not make phone calls. They show up at your door. End of story. If there is a fine to pay you will be ticketed or arrested to take it up with the judge. Lets be smart about things guys.

Barney58
09-28-22, 06:47
You are being scammed 100%. Why in the world you respond to their calls / texts in the first place? Good lord man.Do you mean:

1) Why would you respond to the providers calls / texts? Because I reached out to them first. I would not respond to an unsolicited call / text for such services.

2) Why would you respond to the providers postings? Because they're on RubMD and have reviews there. I know those reviews can be fake and I should have only responded to ads that are verified through here or another similar 'service'.

3) Why would I answer a phone call from a 919 area code? Because my phone number is not a NC area code I rarely get spam / scan calls from 919 AC's, so I tend to answer the phone.

4) Why would I respond to questions in the call? Ultimately I did not really respond. They were initially seeking information that could help find the person, but when they would not tell me the phone number that I used to reach out to the person or their 'stage' name, I merely responded enough to drag them along until they made the offer of 'psychological evaluation', which cinched it as a scam for me. I wanted to know which of the three recent providers was participating in this so I gave vague answers in an effort to continue to engage them.

5) Or is the intent of your question something else?

Thanks!