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MickeyMic
07-07-17, 10:15
Can anyone tell me which places still offer table showers? All the places I used to know have either closed or have gone legit (#0011). I know VIP has one available, but the drive is just too far for me.Most of my go to spots with TS have closed but #17 is still open and offers it for free with a. 7 massage. The only bad thing is they leave the lights on full while doing it. Not sure what purpose that serves other than to make an old chubby guy feel uncomfortable.

LarryLeisure
07-07-17, 17:40
Most of my go to spots with TS have closed but #17 is still open and offers it for free with a. 7 massage. The only bad thing is they leave the lights on full while doing it. Not sure what purpose that serves other than to make an old chubby guy feel uncomfortable.I think they just shut down #17. I caught the end of it on the news. Maybe someone can verify.

Spaceball1
07-07-17, 17:51
Decided to try a place I had not been to before based on the responses to my earlier question about about the availability of TS. Ended up at Pure Spa. Paid 70 for an hour with TS included at no extra charge. The TS was thorough but rushed and not sensual at all. Got a pretty hard massage with no teasing. On the flip, everything changed, and she went to the HE without hesitation and without any coaxing from me. I asked her for access to her top and she obliged. Damn! She had some nice big tits that she had been hiding under her shirt, and she let me suckle them as she jerked me. After I popped, she continued with some more massge for another 5 minutes before telling them that my time was up. Gave her 40 for tip.

One thing that impressed me was that while I was getting my massage, several other clients walked in. The other lady on duty took care of the first person, but a second person came in and had to wait for my session to be over. While my masseuse did leave to greet him, when she came back, there was no rush. She gave me her complete attention and the full time without any hurrying. I really appreciated that. Also, as I was leaving, she told me to wait in the room while she showed the new client to his room so that our paths did not cross.


I can vouche for 0029,0010, as well as 0050.0050 is a bit far for me. I have been to 0010, but that was a while ago, and I was not pleased with my visit overall, but apparently management has changed, so I might give it another shot. Thanks.

HappyMan21
07-07-17, 22:21
https://raleigh.rubratings.com/76112

Here you go.

XHippie
07-08-17, 02:51
I think they just shut down #17. I caught the end of it on the news. Maybe someone can verify.Yeh there's a small article on WRAL's site that they were busted because they offered to do a "massage only" nothing sexy for $70 so the cops busted them for having no license. Big time bust Ooooo I feel safer now. How about paying more attention to our kids with guns shooting each other in McDonald's parking lots. Don't get me wrong I love cops, they, school teachers, firemen and EMS workers are the most important and under paid folks taking care of us. But come on fella's what are these girls doing to hurt anyone? Oh that's right it's those muther fuckers at the Massage Board pushing the agenda, don't get me started I'm still a little fucked up from a pitcher of Margarita's earlier. The owner also got into trouble trying to bribe the police officer with cash to not bust them. Hahaha the Chinese way, works in China but not Hickville.

Moon Raker
07-08-17, 08:31
Hate to be cryptic, but with these places discretion seems important now. I think you will know if you visit. Does the menu ever expand at this place?

XHippie
07-08-17, 09:41
Hate to be cryptic, but with these places discretion seems important now. I think you will know if you visit. Does the menu ever expand at this place?Agree discretion is a wise policy but the open forum and PM should be used to its fullest God Bless America and free speech, now if we could just get free pussy or at least prostitution legalized. The usual problems these places have is related to the touchy-feely stuff with an officer or someone ratting them out which I think was in this case either a competitor, former worker or massage board troll visiting the store. They got popped for no license, why them? Strange! It's not like LE read one of our post that said "Wow guys I give #17 a thumbs up because they have no license", LE see's the post and has a task force meeting and after many hours of intelligence decides lets go get them guys they've got to be stopped. It's sad and funny.

RubaDubdub01
07-08-17, 10:06
Which AMP do you think has the most attractive staff? I have been to nearly every AMP in town and have a fairly good thought on which has the best looking ladies but would like to hear your thoughts. Like I said, not looking for massage quality, just body quality. Just curious as I see guys rating ladies a 6 or 7 I need t get a base line of what you consider a 6 or 7. A just for fun post.

RaspyAlien
07-08-17, 18:14
. . . Back to the subject Table showers done right is a lost art form IMO not many girls really know how to give a great Table Shower . . .Great description of an Authentic Experience.

Is there any place that offers an Authentic Experience?

No need to call them out in this forum.

A Yes or No will be fine.

Thanks,

PartTimeMonger
07-09-17, 12:26
Just thought you guys might want to know about this one. The number was 929-391-7099. Can't seem to find in the ad anymore but she led me to West Raleigh. Anyway, this was one of those ads under women seeking men on backpages.

Let me tell you, I wasn't expecting the girl in the pictures (they're always fake) but when I arrived, the girl was one of the most attractive asians I've seen in the business. She was in shape and very busty. However, it was very business like. Got in, she motioned to take of my clothes and then we proceeded. $. 4 Hhr and $. 8 HR. Bad english and although she was nice, it was very mechanical and she made me leave before my time was up.

Sobe69
07-10-17, 08:16
Anyone try out this spot?

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/6212511835.html

Member #5464
07-10-17, 11:17
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensual-massage-by-kat/33156965

How do the pics hold up to reality? Good massage? Good ending? Upgrades available? Damage? How's the location?

Thanks!

Heelman69
07-10-17, 11:37
Anyone try out this spot?

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/6212511835.htmlI emailed them the other day (Friday, maybe?) saying I was interested in seeing the female, only. I never got a response. I would be interested if anyone has been there, too.

Bb211
07-10-17, 11:44
I emailed them the other day (Friday, maybe?) saying I was interested in seeing the female, only. I never got a response. I would be interested if anyone has been there, too.I also sent email requesting the female. No answer back. Need a volunteer to email requesting the male!

Mag8600
07-10-17, 14:43
What's even worse, is that this place was totally legit, at least in my experience there. Tried for extras and was very firmly told "No". As XHippie says, this is the politicos throwing their weight around. What a shame.

TheSting24
07-10-17, 14:53
I also sent email requesting the female. No answer back. Need a volunteer to email requesting the male!I had a feeling they were too good to be true. Another scam. I don't believe there is a female. What this dude has to gain I do not know.

TS24.

Stevet35
07-10-17, 15:38
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensual-massage-by-kat/33156965

How do the pics hold up to reality? Good massage? Good ending? Upgrades available? Damage? How's the location?

Thanks!I have never seen her. But I know those pics have been around for a few years.

NewNcMonger
07-10-17, 18:32
Is it legit?


Just thought you guys might want to know about this one. The number was 929-391-7099. Can't seem to find in the ad anymore but she led me to West Raleigh. Anyway, this was one of those ads under women seeking men on backpages.

Let me tell you, I wasn't expecting the girl in the pictures (they're always fake) but when I arrived, the girl was one of the most attractive asians I've seen in the business. She was in shape and very busty. However, it was very business like. Got in, she motioned to take of my clothes and then we proceeded. $. 4 Hhr and $. 8 HR. Bad english and although she was nice, it was very mechanical and she made me leave before my time was up.

XHippie
07-10-17, 19:49
I'm glad to hear you say that, I thought it was just me! Yes she's very guarded. She was so tight doggy was a challange, but CG she was controlling the action the whole time. She'd keep things from getting too deep. Hahaha! I was thinking, OK I'm no porn star but I thought I'd surely bottom out in this petite thing! Nope! Still fun tho!Was in the neighborhood thought I would check it out. Same set up as the old Rose, same faces, I'm sure a new face is there but I didn't see one I think I arrived at a busy time rang the bell waited a few minutes went back to the car to make some phone calls. Saw a guy leave rang the bell again recognized the girl that opened the door always reminded me of Fiona in the movie Shriek. She took me to the room and came in later to do the massage not too bad actually. She must have recognized my face and remembered my evil ways because on the flip she left the room then came back and said my peed, my peed? Oh you have period yes yes, Sasha will finish your massage. Sasha came in I haven't seen her in months she is such a sweet heart and has a decent body. She finished the massage as she did in the past. It's not the most erotic place and does not have a lot of bells and whistles as far as decorations and table showers that gives the AMP experience. But for what it is it's not a bad bang for your buck. Half hour will do the trick but these girls can actually massage as good as most so an hour is not a bad deal at $60. I like that they don't press for the high tips like other places VIP for example. Bring cash & cover! They take safety serious which is good. Would repeat if I was in a pinch and near by.

PartTimeMonger
07-10-17, 21:32
Is it legit?I can assure you I'm real and I've posted several times before about different providers or AAMPS. If I ever find the specific ad that I remember, I'll post it or take a screenshot.

PartTimeMonger
07-10-17, 21:38
Is it legit?So I found the AD again today, here's the link http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/23-sweet-asian-girl-100-real-pic/42578213.

If there's anything I can clarify, please let me know.

Myron49
07-11-17, 07:57
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensual-massage-by-kat/33156965

How do the pics hold up to reality? Good massage? Good ending? Upgrades available? Damage? How's the location?

Thanks!Saw Kat last fall and she looks as good in person as the pics but I will not return. She could not have been nicer / sweeter and she allows some nice petting but the "massage" was cold and mechanical even though we seemed to be getting along fine. Handshake at the end was like the massage. Maybe she was having a bad day but for the price I would have expected to receive my entire hr. And a better body rub. Hope this helps.

HolyDiver01
07-11-17, 10:05
So I found the AD again today, here's the link http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/23-sweet-asian-girl-100-real-pic/42578213.

If there's anything I can clarify, please let me know.The ad is gone again.

HolyDiver.

Member #5464
07-11-17, 11:21
Saw Kat last fall and she looks as good in person as the pics but I will not return. She could not have been nicer / sweeter and she allows some nice petting but the "massage" was cold and mechanical even though we seemed to be getting along fine. Handshake at the end was like the massage. Maybe she was having a bad day but for the price I would have expected to receive my entire hr. And a better body rub. Hope this helps.How was the price and the location? Were you able to get any clothes off of her?

Pwasg
07-11-17, 12:10
Saw Kat last fall and she looks as good in person as the pics but I will not return. She could not have been nicer / sweeter and she allows some nice petting but the "massage" was cold and mechanical even though we seemed to be getting along fine. Handshake at the end was like the massage. Maybe she was having a bad day but for the price I would have expected to receive my entire hr. And a better body rub. Hope this helps.Kat matches her pictures pretty well. No upgrades available. She is pretty expensive for a basic rug and tug. Not worth the money. Several reviews are here on this site.

MedJohnson
07-11-17, 13:04
Splurged a little. Had a nice 4 hand TS and rub at 0051. Left satisfied. Hr $. 3 + tip.

Stay safe.

Med

MedJohnson
07-11-17, 13:06
I've seen some really attractive girls from the ads but they are totally hit or miss. Need to think with big head and be ready to walk.

Stay safe.

Med.


Is it legit?

FrankLinton
07-11-17, 13:55
Go see Ruby. Cute and young for AMP standards. Decent massage, real nice finish. Bet there's a decent menu after you've seen her more than once. Really sweet girl.

TigersWood88
07-11-17, 14:17
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/girl-next-door-2-appts-left-today-2-45-and-4pm/42657318

PartTimeMonger
07-11-17, 20:05
Ok here it is finally.

PartTimeMonger
07-11-17, 20:12
The ad is gone again.

HolyDiver.Ok. Weird I keep failing in the image upload. Any tips on fixing this?

MisterT69
07-11-17, 21:50
I've been to this one quite a few times. They've used various numbers, ending in 9090,4573, and the most recent one which ends in 0340. I've had some really good experiences with Molly, Shelly, and Candy (probably the best looking and most voluptuous Asian that you will find at any AMP. Her bbj skills are superb also).

This time, I ended up seeing a lady named Mina. Worst massage ever. She ended up scratching me with her fingernails. When I tried to touch her, she backed off. She only massaged my arms and legs, not my back other than scratching me at my upper back. I had already given the standard tip.

On the flip, she went straight for Junior. I tried to rub on her back just to relax a little, and she said if I wanted to touch her it would be more tip. She then proceeded to shake like you would shake a spray can. The overall experience was so bad, I considered retiring from the hobby.

919-522-0340.

TheSting24
07-12-17, 10:50
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/girl-next-door-2-appts-left-today-2-45-and-4pm/42657318Do NOT waste your time and money. Bad news.

Pubb69
07-12-17, 11:19
Do NOT waste your time and money. Bad news.Unstable and pics are not representative. Probably will not respond after she sends you to her location. All you got to do is use the search feature, all you need to know is there.

MickeyMic
07-12-17, 13:30
I've been to this one quite a few times. They've used various numbers, ending in 9090,4573, and the most recent one which ends in 0340. I've had some really good experiences with Molly, Shelly, and Candy (probably the best looking and most voluptuous Asian that you will find at any AMP. Her bbj skills are superb also).

This time, I ended up seeing a lady named Mina. Worst massage ever. She ended up scratching me with her fingernails. When I tried to touch her, she backed off. She only massaged my arms and legs, not my back other than scratching me at my upper back. I had already given the standard tip.

On the flip, she went straight for Junior. I tried to rub on her back just to relax a little, and she said if I wanted to touch her it would be more tip. She then proceeded to shake like you would shake a spray can. The overall experience was so bad, I considered retiring from the hobby.

919-522-0340.Money grubbed the whole time I was there. Terrible massage and wanted another $$ on top of house fee for FS. She was cute, but not that cute, and for the quality of the rub and the finish, she definitely wasn't worth an extra $$.

Member #5464
07-12-17, 13:42
Kat matches her pictures pretty well. No upgrades available. She is pretty expensive for a basic rug and tug. Not worth the money. Several reviews are here on this site.How we expensive are we talking?

XHippie
07-12-17, 14:17
I've been to this one quite a few times. They've used various numbers, ending in 9090,4573, and the most recent one which ends in 0340. I've had some really good experiences with Molly, Shelly, and Candy (probably the best looking and most voluptuous Asian that you will find at any AMP. Her bbj skills are superb also).

This time, I ended up seeing a lady named Mina. Worst massage ever. She ended up scratching me with her fingernails. When I tried to touch her, she backed off. She only massaged my arms and legs, not my back other than scratching me at my upper back. I had already given the standard tip.

On the flip, she went straight for Junior. I tried to rub on her back just to relax a little, and she said if I wanted to touch her it would be more tip. She then proceeded to shake like you would shake a spray can. The overall experience was so bad, I considered retiring from the hobby.

919-522-0340.It's a gamble meeting an American BP girl based on what mood she's in but more than likely she had some reviews or you saw her before that made you give her a try so that cuts the odds down considerably. I think the odds are greater for disappointment going to the AAMP's because of the "constant rotation" of girls. It helps to have a name so you can request her to see if she's still around if a good post was made about a certain one or you saw a certain one you liked. And possibly a description to see if she matches it when she opens the door. But IMO the odds of getting a good visit is probably 50 50 without a name. I've been to 2 early when they started popping up, one Massage & HJ, one everything. Little too expensive for the quality service IMO. If the girls were outstanding with their looks (big titties) hard bodies and service I'd add them in my rotation. Too average for my time and money.

MotivationNc
07-12-17, 14:22
Has anybody seen any of these ladies. I can't find anything on any of them. I'm assuming they are all new. I'm off tomorrow and looking to get rubbed on I just want to be careful as possible. Looking for something new I always go to the same couple providers.

https://raleigh.rubratings.com/76113

https://raleigh.rubratings.com/69978

https://raleigh.rubratings.com/70701

Doing my research on the first one I realized all her pics don't match. Any info on any of these would be greatly appreciated. You can also pm me. Thanks.

XHippie
07-12-17, 14:36
Has anybody seen any of these ladies. I can't find anything on any of them. I'm assuming they are all new. I'm off tomorrow and looking to get rubbed on I just want to be careful as possible. Looking for something new I always go to the same couple providers.

https://raleigh.rubratings.com/76113

https://raleigh.rubratings.com/69978

https://raleigh.rubratings.com/70701

Doing my research on the first one I realized all her pics don't match. Any info on any of these would be greatly appreciated. You can also pm me. Thanks.I recall reading a review awhile back about the 2nd one, all good things were said.

MickeyMic
07-12-17, 14:38
Anyone been here yet?

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/all-new-grand-open-in-durham-happy-spa-919-771-7758-s/34622434

Happy Spa.

2945 Miami Blvd.

9197717758.

I called and they have .7 hr and do have TS

Heelman69
07-12-17, 15:02
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/girl-next-door-2-appts-left-today-2-45-and-4pm/42657318I had contacted her via her email address. I was very nice, discreet and unassuming and she just went off on me. I think unstable is a good description.

Ashkbp
07-12-17, 15:39
I had contacted her via her email address. I was very nice, discreet and unassuming and she just went off on me. I think unstable is a good description.I was close to her in cary once and then my phone rang and she was going off etc etc, agree.

RaleighR
07-12-17, 16:41
Has anybody seen any of these ladies. I can't find anything on any of them. I'm assuming they are all new. I'm off tomorrow and looking to get rubbed on I just want to be careful as possible. Looking for something new I always go to the same couple providers.

https://raleigh.rubratings.com/76113

https://raleigh.rubratings.com/69978

https://raleigh.rubratings.com/70701

Doing my research on the first one I realized all her pics don't match. Any info on any of these would be greatly appreciated. You can also pm me. Thanks.Feel free to pm me re your #2. Saw her this week.

Pubb69
07-12-17, 21:57
Seen this one tonight, totally different from last time. She gave a rate for 90 minutes that seemed reasonable but she quit after about a half hour. She was non conversational, somewhat incoherent sniffling every 10 seconds and seemed out of it. She works out of a house she rents with a rommate who advertises on B. P. . The neighborhood is decent for Durham but the room is kind of dumpy with about a thousand stains on carpet and walls (the landlord must be thrilled) the rub was light with no tease.

It is difficult to understand the mind set of these people and why they think anyone would repeat when they can't spend the time to look presentable, not be wasted and basicly steal your money by not giving the time that was paid for.

http://www.bodyrubphone.com/919-599-1169/35168258

Myron49
07-13-17, 12:38
How we expensive are we talking?Kat was $$ for HR but was less than 45 min on my session.

XHippie
07-13-17, 13:40
Seen this one tonight, totally different from last time. She gave a rate for 90 minutes that seemed reasonable but she quit after about a half hour. She was non conversational, somewhat incoherent sniffling every 10 seconds and seemed out of it. She works out of a house she rents with a rommate who advertises on B. P. . The neighborhood is decent for Durham but the room is kind of dumpy with about a thousand stains on carpet and walls (the landlord must be thrilled) the rub was light with no tease.

It is difficult to understand the mind set of these people and why they think anyone would repeat when they can't spend the time to look presentable, not be wasted and basicly steal your money by not giving the time that was paid for.

http://www.bodyrubphone.com/919-599-1169/35168258Sometimes visits like this are where they are having a bad day due to the lack of or too much demon potions. Or they once were good but now shitty. But there are a lot of beaches out there that pull the bait and switch shit. Bait being hot looking ads to pull in a guy. The switch is most all the customers are first timers TOFTT or at least his self. These rip off's have no problem finding first timers. They are too stupid, strung out and lazy to realize they got a money maker between their legs. Posting is the best way to expose these rip offs.

XHippie
07-13-17, 14:10
I haven't been to either one of these in a long time. My goal was to go to 0001 but they had a full house and granny at the desk said come back in 2 hours humm very busy interesting, actually mamasan is a nice lady known her for years. Not being able to wait went down the street to 37. Standard visit but the provider was dressed dumpy like she should be in a Chinese fast food joint, she had a goofy personality. While she's pumping junior she's laughing and talking to it, Such as. I like you, you like me, you give me good tip on and on. WTF I have PeeWee Hermans sister jacking me off, strange. I popped, tipped and left. Forest was right you never know watcha going to get.

Southern Guy
07-13-17, 15:39
It has been awhile, December 2012, and it was $200 for an hour. The panties did not come off until the flip, then no FIV.


How we expensive are we talking?

Pubb69
07-13-17, 16:24
Sometimes visits like this are where they are having a bad day due to the lack of or too much demon potions. Or they once were good but now shitty. But there are a lot of beaches out there that pull the bait and switch shit. Bait being hot looking ads to pull in a guy. The switch is most all the customers are first timers TOFTT or at least his self. These rip off's have no problem finding first timers. They are too stupid, strung out and lazy to realize they got a money maker between their legs. Posting is the best way to expose these rip offs.Yeah, I was pissed and just walked past her on the way out but said nothing. I love it when they know they screwed you but act all nice with the fake hug and ' see you soon" on the way out. Had a similar experience only worse last year in Cary with a rub provider. Actually this one was fairly decent the other time I saw her but this time as soon as I walked in her ragged appearance should have been a giveaway that it was going to be bad. I would say your right about the demons, seemed like another person than before.

PilotPete
07-13-17, 18:07
Hello gentlemen,

It looks like I will be assigned, for at least a month, to a project on southside of Durham, so not too far from Raleigh.

I am hoping for a PM or 2 that might save me some time, aggravation & money. Seeking massage provider or two that I can visit while in town. Not seeking FS but a good massage with "tease & please".

I am sorry to bother you but I can't figure out what the 4 character number references are after searching reports.

Thank you for your help.

John Whitman
07-13-17, 21:24
You should find some helpful information about the number system in JJ's List, look under User Blogs in the Raleigh section. JimJim77's post on July 7 should be useful. Good luck.


Hello gentlemen,

It looks like I will be assigned, for at least a month, to a project on southside of Durham, so not too far from Raleigh.

I am hoping for a PM or 2 that might save me some time, aggravation & money. Seeking massage provider or two that I can visit while in town. Not seeking FS but a good massage with "tease & please".

I am sorry to bother you but I can't figure out what the 4 character number references are after searching reports.

Thank you for your help.

Member #5464
07-14-17, 10:53
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/stress-relief/36252358

So I really wanted to try this one. But people are telling me she's about 20 years older in reality. Is her age off putting? I've heard she'll let her cats climb all over you if they want to, is there truth to this? Does she have demons? How was the overall massage and handshake and what did you pay? Any mutual touching allowed? What's the location like?

Thanks.

XHippie
07-14-17, 17:32
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/stress-relief/36252358

So I really wanted to try this one. But people are telling me she's about 20 years older in reality. Is her age off putting? I've heard she'll let her cats climb all over you if they want to, is there truth to this? Does she have demons? How was the overall massage and handshake and what did you pay? Any mutual touching allowed? What's the location like?

Thanks.You seem to ask the question then repeat the answer. As far as hand shake mutual touching price etc. Would anyone's answers matter that much? Hey she's advertising on BP. Point being your first words were "you really want to try her". I don't think you need encouragement from the board. Guys reported she's an older cat lady charging for services ok but If YOU are attracted to her ad give it a shot if it turns out to be a dud it's not the end of the world. Sometimes lonely older cat ladies like this not getting much business can be a little on the horny side which is a positive. I say go for it if it's great report back if it's aww shit Forget about it.

TheSting24
07-14-17, 18:00
Here is the deal. She sits in a chair while you are on her table and gives a lame ass massage. Think about it; if you are sitting in a chair, just how much pressure do you think you could apply giving a massage? Not much. Try it. The house is dirty, cats everywhere, and close to no massage. Yes, she will give you a handshake. Bad attitude and wants to tell you her problems. If this is excitement for you, then go for it.

TS24.


http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/stress-relief/36252358

So I really wanted to try this one. But people are telling me she's about 20 years older in reality. Is her age off putting? I've heard she'll let her cats climb all over you if they want to, is there truth to this? Does she have demons? How was the overall massage and handshake and what did you pay? Any mutual touching allowed? What's the location like?

Thanks.

TheSting24
07-14-17, 18:09
There are two verified reliable providers for massage with HE in / close to Durham:

Elizabeth Young, decent skills.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/full-body-sensual-massage-body-rubs-with-ms-elizabeth-in-brier-creek/34484509

Trina close to upper 50's, but very good massage skills and a more open menu. 140/ HR.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/stop-wasting-your-time-and-resources-text-me-trina-both-will-be-well-spent/34187615


Hello gentlemen,

It looks like I will be assigned, for at least a month, to a project on southside of Durham, so not too far from Raleigh.

I am hoping for a PM or 2 that might save me some time, aggravation & money. Seeking massage provider or two that I can visit while in town. Not seeking FS but a good massage with "tease & please".

I am sorry to bother you but I can't figure out what the 4 character number references are after searching reports.

Thank you for your help.

Pubb69
07-14-17, 19:20
There are two verified reliable providers for massage with HE in / close to Durham:

Elizabeth Young, decent skills.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/full-body-sensual-massage-body-rubs-with-ms-elizabeth-in-brier-creek/34484509

Trina close to upper 50's, but very good massage skills and a more open menu. 140/ HR.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/stop-wasting-your-time-and-resources-text-me-trina-both-will-be-well-spent/34187615Good grief.

Moon Raker
07-16-17, 19:33
There are two verified reliable providers for massage with HE in / close to Durham:

Elizabeth Young, decent skills.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/full-body-sensual-massage-body-rubs-with-ms-elizabeth-in-brier-creek/34484509

Trina close to upper 50's, but very good massage skills and a more open menu. 140/ HR.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/stop-wasting-your-time-and-resources-text-me-trina-both-will-be-well-spent/34187615Ms. Elizabeth posted an ad a year ago on CL, and for the cost of a bourbon, a freak was found. So YMMV.

MedJohnson
07-17-17, 09:09
First experience. For those with more experience, any chance of being post-op TS?

MickeyMic
07-17-17, 09:17
First experience. For those with more experience, any chance of being post-op TS?Honestly never occurred to me. Don't think she's the prettiest thing around, but why do you think she might be a guy? Those operations cost a lot, so I dunno.

IrishManInNc
07-17-17, 09:40
I have seen Kat a few times. Nice lady, usually stays in an average hotel / motel over by Glenwood. She is older than some of the other providers I've seen but she is nice. Bolt-ons are ok.


http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensual-massage-by-kat/33156965

How do the pics hold up to reality? Good massage? Good ending? Upgrades available? Damage? How's the location?

Thanks!

XHippie
07-17-17, 20:17
First experience. For those with more experience, any chance of being post-op TS?I probably have seen as many cunts as the average Gynecologist, I've gotten a Birdseye view of her's looks and taste real to me. Besides rumor in my circle is the reason she left awhile back a year or so ago was she got knocked up. Hey news flash speaking of guys with tits I read Caitlyn Jenner may run for a senate seat. Washington these days, Someone stick an ice pick in my ear please.

Editit
07-18-17, 13:23
Are there any good spots (as of lately) on or near Glenwood? Will have some time to kill later. PM is fine. Thanks!

FrankLinton
07-18-17, 14:03
Are there any good spots (as of lately) on or near Glenwood? Will have some time to kill later. PM is fine. Thanks!Go to 0044 on Creedmoor road. Ask for ruby.

Editit
07-20-17, 16:53
Go to 0044 on Creedmoor road. Ask for ruby.I never got out of work, so I couldn't go. I will keep it in mind though. Thank you.

MickeyMic
07-20-17, 16:59
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-aquatic-rub-available-incredible-80-for-45mins-100-for-hr-130-for-90mins/33528051

Anyone had any dealings with this one? PM if you need to.

TheSting24
07-20-17, 17:13
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-aquatic-rub-available-incredible-80-for-45mins-100-for-hr-130-for-90mins/33528051

Anyone had any dealings with this one? PM if you need to.From what I have learned, she is a little strange. I tried to schedule with her via text about 6 months ago and she sort of "wiged out" on me when our schedules would not align. She ended up texting me to "fuck off".

She has very mixed reviews on the other site, so apparently if you catch her on a good day everything is OK; catch her on a bad day and you may wish you had spent your money elsewhere.

TS24.

XHippie
07-20-17, 17:43
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-aquatic-rub-available-incredible-80-for-45mins-100-for-hr-130-for-90mins/33528051

Anyone had any dealings with this one? PM if you need to.Now I never judge a book by its cover but sometimes I see certain ladies advertising and I do draw a gut conclusion. Hippie chick? Cat lady? Horder? Kathy Bates movie Misery? Someone that will have a voodoo doll in my likeness that she stabs and stabs and stabs shouting out my name after I leave if I didn't meet her expectations. Hummm which one of these does this ladies picture remind me of? In all fairness I've never seen her who knows she may be good!

AlvinPurple
07-20-17, 18:34
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-aquatic-rub-available-incredible-80-for-45mins-100-for-hr-130-for-90mins/33528051

Anyone had any dealings with this one? PM if you need to.I saw her a few months ago.

For "eclectic" read she has conversations about finding oneself & spirituality.

For "aquatic" read she has a shower with you.

She's okay. We spent more time hanging out than massaging (but she didn't clock watch).

At the time I was really looking for a reasonable massage with a good ending. Found the good ending with her but not the massage. May repeat in a pinch.

Rambler1111
07-20-17, 18:39
I saw her as well and had same experience, nothing bad to report, nice attitude,


I saw her a few months ago.

For "eclectic" read she has conversations about finding oneself & spirituality.

For "aquatic" read she has a shower with you.

She's okay. We spent more time hanging out than massaging (but she didn't clock watch).

At the time I was really looking for a reasonable massage with a good ending. Found the good ending with her but not the massage. May repeat in a pinch..

Fatboy9
07-20-17, 19:54
Looks like with this new bill signed today by Mr. Gov a bunch of our fav spots will be long gone soon.

So sad.

http://www.wral.com/new-law-would-help-in-fight-against-north-carolina-s-thriving-illicit-massage-business/16832136/

For those that care to read the new law.

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2017/Bills/Senate/PDF/S548v0.pdf

XHippie
07-20-17, 20:58
Looks like with this new bill signed today by Mr. Gov a bunch of our fav spots will be long gone soon.

So sad.

http://www.wral.com/new-law-would-help-in-fight-against-north-carolina-s-thriving-illicit-massage-business/16832136/

For those that care to read the new law.

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2017/Bills/Senate/PDF/S548v0.pdfIt's Sad, Human trafficking? Every Asian person I know has a IPhone and can leave for another store in any State any city in America. These well educated people are pouring water on a match stick while the house is on fire with the baby and dog inside. Apply those tax dollars at school buses with no seat belts, feed some of these kids that are on summer vacation and don't have that school lunch in their belly, help our military personnel find work and health care, catch my drift mister Lawyer man / Politician man. Human trafficking my ass. I need to take my blood pressure pill (Jack Daniels).

Tee98
07-20-17, 22:34
It's Sad, Human trafficking? Every Asian person I know has a IPhone and can leave for another store in any State any city in America. These well educated people are pouring water on a match stick while the house is on fire with the baby and dog inside. Apply those tax dollars at school buses with no seat belts, feed some of these kids that are on summer vacation and don't have that school lunch in their belly, help our military personnel find work and health care, catch my drift mister Lawyer man / Politician man. Human trafficking my ass. I need to take my blood pressure pill (Jack Daniels).It's crazy how they can just make up some story and only people who are involved know the real truth. There is no human trafficking here but by including it so they can receive Fed money. One of these guys is not a nice guy but the other one is a great guy who works in the construction industry and dates one of the local girls. He makes himself available to give rides to the girls to go shopping or the bank. Yes he has a NY licence plate so what is the crime in that. He has very little money and had to borrow the $5000 for his down payment to the bail bondsman. He was arrested in September and still to this day has no court date because they are still trying to put together a case against him so much for a swift and speedy trial. It's hard to believe that he has all these serious charges against him and all he did was give girls a ride on his days off.

MedJohnson
07-21-17, 06:08
Relationships have developed with many of the girls. They all deny being forced to do what they do- they do it willingly for the cash.

They often explain how girls who get caught will tell the authorities that they are forced to do it because it makes them the "victim" and reduces the penalty. Fake news loves this stuff and they can then say it is NOT a victimless crime, when in reality it is. Notice that the news always has some "expert" saying how things are instead of someone who actually knows what they are talking about. These girls are smart and will do whatever it takes. Total BS.

Anyway, start looking for more AAMPs to pop up or more Asian hookers around since these girls, who everyone is so worried about, will be pushed from the relative safety of the AMPs to the underground.

If I want to visit and take the risk of an unlicensed MT, I should allowed to do so. So much for freedom.

Stay safe.

Med.


Looks like with this new bill signed today by Mr. Gov a bunch of our fav spots will be long gone soon.

So sad.

http://www.wral.com/new-law-would-help-in-fight-against-north-carolina-s-thriving-illicit-massage-business/16832136/

For those that care to read the new law.

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2017/Bills/Senate/PDF/S548v0.pdf

Bonneville
07-21-17, 11:52
I am thinking about paying a visit to 0040. I go over to that area pretty often. My normal haunt is the K-ville places but they just don't provide consistent services. Sometimes it's good or even once in awhile great but then the next time it sucks. The girls seem to be on a pretty fast rotation and you can't develop any long term relationships for extras. Does anyone have a recommendations at 0040 from recent experience? Is it clean, got a particular fav provider, table shower or not, tip expectation, etc. PM is OK.

JRoy12
07-21-17, 12:48
http://wfla.com/2017/06/01/storefronts-for-sex-tampa-devising-massage-parlor-crackdown-after-8-on-your-side-investigation/

I saw this a couple weeks ago while preparing for a trip back to Tampa. I lived near there for a long time and the spa scene is really good. Orange Spa is mentioned and is by far my favorite. FS with model quality K-girls. I even was a "member. " 10 visits gets you a free one. Never had my real info, just a fake first name and 4 digit code when you went in so they can keep track. Wish the AMP scene was as good here.

Tooter
07-21-17, 17:39
Previous searches for "Hazel" did come up with some hits but I couldn't figure out if it was about this young lady or the other Hazel that was on Backpage a lot.

Has anyone visited this Hazel? If so, what was the experience like?

http://www.massagebyhazel.com/

Tooter out.

XHippie
07-21-17, 18:07
Previous searches for "Hazel" did come up with some hits but I couldn't figure out if it was about this young lady or the other Hazel that was on Backpage a lot.

Has anyone visited this Hazel? If so, what was the experience like?

http://www.massagebyhazel.com/

Tooter out.I don't know what's on the menu but she's beautiful, good luck.

XHippie
07-21-17, 22:55
Looks like with this new bill signed today by Mr. Gov a bunch of our fav spots will be long gone soon.

So sad.

http://www.wral.com/new-law-would-help-in-fight-against-north-carolina-s-thriving-illicit-massage-business/16832136/

For those that care to read the new law.

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2017/Bills/Senate/PDF/S548v0.pdfAt least it was a Bipartisan Effort. All Republican Senators sponsoring the bill and a Democrat Governor putting his stamp on it. Woohoo Let's pat ourselves on the back ladies & gents we got something done. Let's vote ourselves a raise and take a 3 week recess. ( Where's nasty John Edwards when you need him, nasty boy)

Tomas247
07-22-17, 02:52
At least it was a Bipartisan Effort. All Republican Senators sponsoring the bill and a Democrat Governor putting his stamp on it. Woohoo Let's pat ourselves on the back ladies & gents we got something done. Let's vote ourselves a raise and take a 3 week recess. ( Where's nasty John Edwards when you need him, nasty boy)I hardly even visit the AMPs in the RDU area having a regular there, but this is just ridiculous. Who cares if it a bipartisan effort? They're all bought and paid for by the elites anyway. These AMP girls do what they do bc cash is king. They're not being human trafficked. It's total bull shit. If there wasn't demand for them, they wouldn't be in the area. Government needs to just get the fuck out of the way in these cases.

Seems like every day as I grow older, I feel the thumb of big government oppressing our so called "freedom. ".

BubbaXX1
07-22-17, 06:54
I hardly even visit the AMPs in the RDU area having a regular there, but this is just ridiculous. Who cares if it a bipartisan effort? They're all bought and paid for by the elites anyway. These AMP girls do what they do bc cash is king. They're not being human trafficked. It's total bull shit. If there wasn't demand for them, they wouldn't be in the area. Government needs to just get the fuck out of the way in these cases.

Seems like every day as I grow older, I feel the thumb of big government oppressing our so called "freedom. ".It seems that our Bipartisan group has spent a little time reading JJ's List.

XHippie
07-22-17, 08:23
I hardly even visit the AMPs in the RDU area having a regular there, but this is just ridiculous. Who cares if it a bipartisan effort? They're all bought and paid for by the elites anyway. These AMP girls do what they do bc cash is king. They're not being human trafficked. It's total bull shit. If there wasn't demand for them, they wouldn't be in the area. Government needs to just get the fuck out of the way in these cases.

Seems like every day as I grow older, I feel the thumb of big government oppressing our so called "freedom. ".Amen, it use to be if the "majority" wanted change they used the power of their VOTE. Now you wonder if your vote really makes a difference based on the "structure" of our Federal and State government especially in North Carolina. No matter if it's Left or Right The structure of our government is no longer stream lined so shit can get done it's a tangled mess that bottle necks, it has not always been like this. Oops sorry Admin I probably should have put this in the Rant section. But my point is they focus on massage parlors while there is so much more to be focused on. These girls are more likely to be treated like shit in China this is hard work for them here but they are FREE to go and do what they want. God Bless & Help America.

XHippie
07-25-17, 06:35
Looks like with this new bill signed today by Mr. Gov a bunch of our fav spots will be long gone soon.

So sad.

http://www.wral.com/new-law-would-help-in-fight-against-north-carolina-s-thriving-illicit-massage-business/16832136/

For those that care to read the new law.

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2017/Bills/Senate/PDF/S548v0.pdfSo they pass this handjob law "Here" led by the Massage Board attorney and his buddies in Raleigh and 10 people die in the back of a 18 wheeler trailer over "THERE". Betcha some of those adults & children would have eventually landed in the Raleigh area, there's a lot of work and family members already here I bet. To my earlier point, the house is on fire and the suits are pissing in the wind and patting themselves on the pack. But at least they are stopping those darn handjobs in those sinful massage parlors, or are they? It's only tax dollars there's plenty more where that came from.

Bonneville
07-25-17, 15:21
Had an opportunity to drop in to 0040 last weekend and give them a try and I am sorry I did. Stepped up to an hour with TS. Drew Mimi and TS was nothing special, not fun. The massage was worst ever and that is saying a lot. I have had may lousy massages in my day but I had to speak to her half a dozen times to get her to to stop massaging my shoulder blades. She wasn't even massaging them. No oil, just pushing down on me like she was doing chest compressions over an over again. I asked her to move on several times and use oil, and she just kept doing it, same spot. Corrected her again and again, same result. I finally asked her when the massage would begin. I was ready to get up and walk but she started the tease, that went on far too long BTW, but resulted in happiness. Minimum tip as she stayed in the room to beg for more while I was getting dressed. Awkward. By the way, she just smoothed out the sheets to re-make the room for the next victim. I will not repeat and IMHO everyone should avoid.

MD Bellamy
07-25-17, 17:20
Looks like with this new bill signed today by Mr. Gov a bunch of our fav spots will be long gone soon.

So sad.

http://www.wral.com/new-law-would-help-in-fight-against-north-carolina-s-thriving-illicit-massage-business/16832136/

For those that care to read the new law.

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2017/Bills/Senate/PDF/S548v0.pdfI wonder if our favorite firms could do a workaround, morphing into "Body Churches" (or some such name), rather like the tantric providers that are already in operation. Not offering a "massage" but, instead, a "body worship" session. Perhaps, given separation of church and state, if that "worship" is limited ostensibly to activities similar to massage, but with no therapeutic claim, our sacred ceremonies might continue? Table showers could become baptismal cleansings. I believe it is fairly easy to proclaim yourself a "church". Any legal beagles on this idea? Or is it just plain wacky?

XHippie
07-25-17, 20:17
I wonder if our favorite firms could do a workaround, morphing into "Body Churches" (or some such name), rather like the tantric providers that are already in operation. Not offering a "massage" but, instead, a "body worship" session. Perhaps, given separation of church and state, if that "worship" is limited ostensibly to activities similar to massage, but with no therapeutic claim, our sacred ceremonies might continue? Table showers could become baptismal cleansings. I believe it is fairly easy to proclaim yourself a "church". Any legal beagles on this idea? Or is it just plain wacky?I like it, I like it a lot. I mean after all someone somewhere came up with the term "happy ending" to replace the prostitution act of a paid for Handjob / Blowjob / Fuck. Not sure if "Happy Ending" is in the Webster or is defined as illegal, excuse me I'll go check. (For you youngsters, Webster is a paperback Google) lol

Tee98
07-25-17, 22:06
I wonder if our favorite firms could do a workaround, morphing into "Body Churches" (or some such name), rather like the tantric providers that are already in operation. Not offering a "massage" but, instead, a "body worship" session. Perhaps, given separation of church and state, if that "worship" is limited ostensibly to activities similar to massage, but with no therapeutic claim, our sacred ceremonies might continue? Table showers could become baptismal cleansings. I believe it is fairly easy to proclaim yourself a "church". Any legal beagles on this idea? Or is it just plain wacky?I will sit in the front seat to worship their body's. There has been many times I've heard them say oh god oh god.

Sobe69
07-26-17, 09:24
Any intel on these?


https://raleigh.craigslist.org/hss/d/excellent-private-massage/6195238670.html Apex.

https://greensboro.craigslist.org/hss/d/hour-massage-therapy/6226131376.html 24 hour massage greensboro.

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/crs/d/sexy-massages/6234280256.html sexy massage.

Tooter
07-26-17, 09:54
See my review on Camilia here. Not worth the time or money in my opinion.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5891-Craigslist-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3483910&viewfull=1#post3483910.

--Tooter.


Any intel on these?

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/hss/d/excellent-private-massage/6195238670.html Apex.

https://greensboro.craigslist.org/hss/d/hour-massage-therapy/6226131376.html 24 hour massage greensboro.

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/crs/d/sexy-massages/6234280256.html sexy massage.

Sobe69
07-26-17, 10:01
Thanks I saw it after I posted. I did not pull the trigger because she had no phone number so I was cautious. Was the location clean and safe? I will have to have the talk with her if I do decided to go.


See my review on Camilia here. Not worth the time or money in my opinion.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5891-Craigslist-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3483910&viewfull=1#post3483910.

--Tooter.

Sobe69
07-26-17, 10:36
Anyone seen this one? She is working out of a home in durham.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensual-massage/44088763

Maxamillion8
07-26-17, 15:23
I posted on this girl and asked fellow members to avoid. I scheduled one hr appointment after reading a nice review on The Other Site. Drove to her place in Durham. Pretty Beatup home in nice neighborhood. House was smelling of smoke so take an extra pair of clothes. Went to the room upstairs and I was led to the room which had a bunk bed and wooden massage table with a thin comforter. I was about to pull the money out and something hit me to reconfirm that reviews were true and service will be provided. She told me that review was fake, she doesn't do that. She will not even take her clothes off or not even HE. I showed her own add which she told me that is after I see her like 5 - 10 times. And MAYBE something will open up. I was so pissed and told her I will pass and sorry for waiting her time.

She does not look like her pics. Much older in IMO with saggy everything.


Anyone seen this one? She is working out of a home in Durham.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensual-massage/44088763

Jaceman68
07-26-17, 17:41
I posted on this girl and asked fellow members to avoid. I scheduled one hr appointment after reading a nice review on The Other Site. Drove to her place in Durham. Pretty Beatup home in nice neighborhood. House was smelling of smoke so take an extra pair of clothes. Went to the room upstairs and I was led to the room which had a bunk bed and wooden massage table with a thin comforter. I was about to pull the money out and something hit me to reconfirm that reviews were true and service will be provided. She told me that review was fake, she doesn't do that. She will not even take her clothes off or not even HE. I showed her own add which she told me that is after I see her like 5 - 10 times. And MAYBE something will open up. I was so pissed and told her I will pass and sorry for waiting her time.

She does not look like her pics. Much older in IMO with saggy everything.Link is dead.

Tooter
07-26-17, 17:54
Yes, the location is clean and safe. It's in a converted garage of a nice home in a very nice neighborhood in a very nice town. But for for the cost ($100) you can do much better. She's not a CMT so if you want a good therapeutic massage, you could go to so many places and get an excellent swedish massage for 60% of the price. But if you were looking for a FBSM then you'll want to look elsewhere because you won't get it from her. If you're in it for the pursuit rather than the catch. Then you're in luck. .


Thanks I saw it after I posted. I did not pull the trigger because she had no phone number so I was cautious. Was the location clean and safe? I will have to have the talk with her if I do decided to go.

Sobe69
07-26-17, 18:08
Thanks for the feedback! I surprised that you said her pics are old. Had her send me proof pics that panned out accurately. Schedule a meet and greet so will report back.


I posted on this girl and asked fellow members to avoid. I scheduled one hr appointment after reading a nice review on The Other Site. Drove to her place in Durham. Pretty Beatup home in nice neighborhood. House was smelling of smoke so take an extra pair of clothes. Went to the room upstairs and I was led to the room which had a bunk bed and wooden massage table with a thin comforter. I was about to pull the money out and something hit me to reconfirm that reviews were true and service will be provided. She told me that review was fake, she doesn't do that. She will not even take her clothes off or not even HE. I showed her own add which she told me that is after I see her like 5 - 10 times. And MAYBE something will open up. I was so pissed and told her I will pass and sorry for waiting her time.

She does not look like her pics. Much older in IMO with saggy everything.

Purple45
07-27-17, 00:55
The governor signed an anti-human trafficking bill not an anti-massage bill. We all know it only takes a few examples of human trafficking to paint a picture that all Asian Massage Parlors are involved. Touch of Asia was the final piece that was needed to get the political support from both parties. Right or wrong with the charges but the evidence against Touch of Asia does appear to be human trafficking even though we know that the overwhelming majority of these girls volunteer to come work at these stores. Yes, most girls don't speak English and they don't have personal transportation so they rely on the owner to provide everything they need. Anyone who doesn't know the Chinese business practice would initially say, "those girls have no freedom", but in reality they do it's just a different culture of doing things from what we know.

It's not big government limiting freedom, but individuals and organizations with a persistent lobbying effort. Several organizations with different agendas collaberated to get this bill passed, but The North Carolina Board of Massage and Bodywork Therapy worked harder than any politician did. Money is the #1 reason why this bill was passed. These AMP's generate major income that is not taxed or spent in North Carolina. Then there are the complaints from licensed masseuses about how their education, training and livelihood is going down the drain with unlicensed massage parlors taking away their business, or so they say.

How about a Raleigh Massage Monday march instead of the Moral Monday protest? Who is with me? All massage parlors and spas are equal! Right, and I'll be the only there in my spa robe holding a sign. Well, just go relax while you can and enjoy a superior Asian Massage near you.

XHippie
07-27-17, 08:56
The governor signed an anti-human trafficking bill not an anti-massage bill. We all know it only takes a few examples of human trafficking to paint a picture that all Asian Massage Parlors are involved. Touch of Asia was the final piece that was needed to get the political support from both parties. Right or wrong with the charges but the evidence against Touch of Asia does appear to be human trafficking even though we know that the overwhelming majority of these girls volunteer to come work at these stores. Yes, most girls don't speak English and they don't have personal transportation so they rely on the owner to provide everything they need. Anyone who doesn't know the Chinese business practice would initially say, "those girls have no freedom", but in reality they do it's just a different culture of doing things from what we know.

It's not big government limiting freedom, but individuals and organizations with a persistent lobbying effort. Several organizations with different agendas collaberated to get this bill passed, but The North Carolina Board of Massage and Bodywork Therapy worked harder than any politician did. Money is the #1 reason why this bill was passed. These AMP's generate major income that is not taxed or spent in North Carolina. Then there are the complaints from licensed masseuses about how their education, training and livelihood is going down the drain with unlicensed massage parlors taking away their business, or so they say.

How about a Raleigh Massage Monday march instead of the Moral Monday protest? Who is with me? All massage parlors and spas are equal! Right, and I'll be the only there in my spa robe holding a sign. Well, just go relax while you can and enjoy a superior Asian Massage near you.You are right in this Massage business there are 2 things happening at once with one caveat. The two things are 1. Massage Envy's business model is set up as your typical chain store operation such as StarBucks etc. Standard uniform wearing minimum wage earners supplying overpriced subpar service etc. 2. The Asian business is just as chainstore like as to how it is set up (every store basically operates the same) BUT with totally different rules and regulations from Massage Envy about how the girls are hired, fired, housed, fed, paid, time off, medical coverage. No need to mention the independents most of them dish out HE while complaining about the Asians at the Massage Board Meetings. The problem is the American LE, politicians, Massage Board DOES NOT understand this culture or business model, They just see a massage parlor taking their customers. 3. The "Caveat" well it is the SERVICE. So the smoke filling the room is the subject about These girls being brought here and kept against their will is a crazy. Just in the news the other day there are churches bringing people here from Brazil and basically worked as slaves. Humm Scientology have we been able to pass a LAW to crack that no tax paying slave driven organization? Seems every time I turn around I'm reading about some creep in Chapel Hill or Cary committing a sex crime against one of our kids. Can we spend some tax dollars and pass a ass kicking punishing law to get these fuckers if they pull this shit. Are these Chinese ladies doing this damage to anyone in our neighborhoods? No! As far as paying taxes, if they refuse to document folks with Massage License or other documents these folks are forced to withhold their earnings especially cash receipts. Listen these ladies came here to stay if possible but every corner they turn is against them. Is it Culture Clash vs Competition or Morality vs Competition? Either way it's money driven.

Pubb69
07-27-17, 14:29
You are right in this Massage business there are 2 things happening at once with one caveat. The two things are 1. Massage Envy's business model is set up as your typical chain store operation such as StarBucks etc. Standard uniform wearing minimum wage earners supplying overpriced subpar service etc. 2. The Asian business is just as chainstore like as to how it is set up (every store basically operates the same) BUT with totally different rules and regulations from Massage Envy about how the girls are hired, fired, housed, fed, paid, time off, medical coverage. No need to mention the independents most of them dish out HE while complaining about the Asians at the Massage Board Meetings. The problem is the American LE, politicians, Massage Board DOES NOT understand this culture or business model, They just see a massage parlor taking their customers. 3. The "Caveat" well it is the SERVICE. So the smoke filling the room is the subject about These girls being brought here and kept against their will is a crazy. Just in the news the other day there are churches bringing people here from Brazil and basically worked as slaves. Humm Scientology have we been able to pass a LAW to crack that no tax paying slave driven organization? Seems every time I turn around I'm reading about some creep in Chapel Hill or Cary committing a sex crime against one of our kids. Can we spend some tax dollars and pass a ass kicking punishing law to get these fuckers if they pull this shit. Are these Chinese ladies doing this damage to anyone in our neighborhoods? No! As far as paying taxes, if they refuse to document folks with Massage License or other documents these folks are forced to withhold their earnings especially cash receipts. Listen these ladies came here to stay if possible but every corner they turn is against them. Is it Culture Clash vs Competition or Morality vs Competition? Either way it's money driven.I don't know if they will shut all of them down but I do know that Massage Envy is not going to benefit from it.

They are about as lame as it can get for massage, the Asian places that are set up legit will benefit though. At least they can actually give a beneficial massage without bluffing their way through it like the women at Massage Envy.

Pgrandis54
07-27-17, 19:46
Been looking for the best massage only at a good price and finally found her at acupressure at Crabtree. For $58 an hour and the best massage I've ever had. Started with upper body to toes pressure palm then used forearms half inch at a time traveling from upper back to hips. Great leg work and nice scalp at end. Perfect pressure even with elbow. Some gals there about kill you with the elbows. . . When the AMPs close down this place will be packed.

XHippie
07-27-17, 23:41
Went by for a visit, really cute young provider gave a pretty good massage. Her English was better than most, towel strictly used left blue balled. Would not repeat didn't catch her name.

Kurt309
07-28-17, 11:49
Looking the older lady Lucy that use to work at 2223-j hwy Durham. She left several months ago and I have lost contact. Thanks for any info.

XHippie
07-28-17, 16:04
Looking the older lady Lucy that use to work at 2223-j hwy Durham. She left several months ago and I have lost contact. Thanks for any info.Lucy and I go way back several years, not a looker but a great provider if she liked you. Last time I spoke with her before she left she said she was headed to NY to work and be closer to family. All I got.

TheShredSter66
07-28-17, 19:57
Been pretty low key and picky with all the news recently but went for a visit anyone. Tried 0011 knowing good and well theyve gone legit but figured what the hell, my back was actually aching. Sure enough, NO touching, teasing, flirting, etc. But it was a pretty good massage. Again, I knew but in case your a see it to believe it kinda guy like me then I'll re-affirm. Yes its legit. No flip, no monkey business. Next day still had the itch so I decided to give 0010 another shot. Figured what the hell, why not? She was not in a pleasant mood, didn't want to be there and it showed. Half ass massage, fast flip and a fast tug to just get it over with. All and all WITH the TS that I requested was out of there in about 20 MAYBE 25 minutes. Needless to say was a little shy on the tip and not too keen on going back. Hate to give a bad review but damn. It was bad.

XHippie
07-29-17, 01:36
Been pretty low key and picky with all the news recently but went for a visit anyone. Tried 0011 knowing good and well theyve gone legit but figured what the hell, my back was actually aching. Sure enough, NO touching, teasing, flirting, etc. But it was a pretty good massage. Again, I knew but in case your a see it to believe it kinda guy like me then I'll re-affirm. Yes its legit. No flip, no monkey business. Next day still had the itch so I decided to give 0010 another shot. Figured what the hell, why not? She was not in a pleasant mood, didn't want to be there and it showed. Half ass massage, fast flip and a fast tug to just get it over with. All and all WITH the TS that I requested was out of there in about 20 MAYBE 25 minutes. Needless to say was a little shy on the tip and not too keen on going back. Hate to give a bad review but damn. It was bad.Ever watch a dog run in circles chasing his own tail? It's like perpetual motion. Or the old saying, build it They will cum oops come. The successful and fun massage places are like this, if the owners has good even great providers they will attract more of us. The more money a store makes the better the girls they attract to work there and we take notice and round and round in circles it goes like the dog chasing its tail. BUT get harassed the girls will leave, and when that happens the fun stops then we stop taking our dollars there and we go elsewhere. And ain't no way the good providers will come to a dud area, why would they. Believe me these girls are like bloodhounds they know where the money is. And word travels fast in their circle where money is being made and what area's are being harassed. I'm afraid that's where we are in this area now, will it get worse or better? Who knows. Of course there will be some girls here and there in a store or two that will have her favorite customer that she will go the extra mile for (special services) but not for every paying customer. The other bad thing is sometimes in these drought conditions even the rub and tuggers or even a half way decent massage goes down hill. I just feel other places like Charlotte or further away will attract the talent way before they will settle here or maybe I'm wrong but I doubt it. It's about cash! And now massaging here without a license is like one of us driving without a license going to work every day, does the risk out weigh the reward. Hence THE DROUGHT.

Pubb69
07-29-17, 16:11
Ever watch a dog run in circles chasing his own tail? It's like perpetual motion. Or the old saying, build it They will cum oops come. The successful and fun massage places are like this, if the owners has good even great providers they will attract more of us. The more money a store makes the better the girls they attract to work there and we take notice and round and round in circles it goes like the dog chasing its tail. BUT get harassed the girls will leave, and when that happens the fun stops then we stop taking our dollars there and we go elsewhere. And ain't no way the good providers will come to a dud area, why would they. Believe me these girls are like bloodhounds they know where the money is. And word travels fast in their circle where money is being made and what area's are being harassed. I'm afraid that's where we are in this area now, will it get worse or better? Who knows. Of course there will be some girls here and there in a store or two that will have her favorite customer that she will go the extra mile for (special services) but not for every paying customer. The other bad thing is sometimes in these drought conditions even the rub and tuggers or even a half way decent massage goes down hill. I just feel other places like Charlotte or further away will attract the talent way before they will settle here or maybe I'm wrong but I doubt it. It's about cash! And now massaging here without a license is like one of us driving without a license going to work every day, does the risk out weigh the reward. Hence THE DROUGHT.Any idea why the Charlotte area is unaffected, yet Raleigh is targeted?

XHippie
07-29-17, 18:48
Any idea why the Charlotte area is unaffected, yet Raleigh is targeted?Well we know the "NC" Massage board regulates the license in "NC" and I've whined enough about how I feel about them. IMO it comes down to the grassroots level of who is doing the complaining or lack of defending free market enterprise (talking about who's running the City) You have certain cities that are better managed and competitive than others. If it will make money and create jobs and kick the competitions ass GO and get that money. This is why Charlotte has the biggest Malls, NASCAR, NFL, NBA Basketball, am I missing one? Many other business's and home office's. Sure Raleigh and Durham has growth BUT Charlotte beat them to the punch on many fronts of these top industries. Could you imagine the revenue generated in restaurants, hotels etc. If Raleigh had that big ass NASCAR track in this area? So yea Charlotte kicked their ass in many ways. So the Asian Massage Parlors are not that far at the top of the Mayor or City Council's list as a place to spend tax dollars shutting down. They are throwing those tax dollars at humm let me see? Roads, Schools, attracting more business instead of running them away. I can just hear the conversation now when the Massage Board and their Monkey Lawyer calls Charlotte on a conference call Hi we need to look at these Asian Parlors in Charlotte and it will take several meetings and the cooperation of Charlottes LE, this could be a lengthy endeavor investigation. I'm sure they get a "Fuck Off" response in a professional way of course and are told go back to Raleigh and clean up your own back yard with your own tax dollars we are fine here. And get this Charlotte has many places that will put VIP to shame them girls will fuck your brains out for a price of course. Of course any place anywhere that acts stupid will have problems. But if they keep their noses clean and pay their bills they will have no problems from other businesses, city officials or LE and the massage license is not that big of a deal. Location Location & who's running the City my friend this is why Charlotte is different than here. Fayetteville? That place comes and goes but Charlotte seems to be consistent.

HookyPooky
07-30-17, 16:05
Well we know the "NC" Massage board regulates the license in "NC" and I've whined enough about how I feel about them. IMO it comes down to the grassroots level of who is doing the complaining or lack of defending free market enterprise (talking about who's running the City) You have certain cities that are better managed and competitive than others. If it will make money and create jobs and kick the competitions ass GO and get that money. This is why Charlotte has the biggest Malls, NASCAR, NFL, NBA Basketball, am I missing one? Many other business's and home office's. Sure Raleigh and Durham has growth BUT Charlotte beat them to the punch on many fronts of these top industries. Could you imagine the revenue generated in restaurants, hotels etc. If Raleigh had that big ass NASCAR track in this area? So yea Charlotte kicked their ass in many ways. So the Asian Massage Parlors are not that far at the top of the Mayor or City Council's list as a place to spend tax dollars shutting down. They are throwing those tax dollars at humm let me see? Roads, Schools, attracting more business instead of running them away. I can just hear the conversation now when the Massage Board and their Monkey Lawyer calls Charlotte on a conference call Hi we need to look at these Asian Parlors in Charlotte and it will take several meetings and the cooperation of Charlottes LE, this could be a lengthy endeavor investigation. I'm sure they get a "Fuck Off" response in a professional way of course and are told go back to Raleigh and clean up your own back yard with your own tax dollars we are fine here. And get this Charlotte has many places that will put VIP to shame them girls will fuck your brains out for a price of course. Of course any place anywhere that acts stupid will have problems. But if they keep their noses clean and pay their bills they will have no problems from other businesses, city officials or LE and the massage license is not that big of a deal. Location Location & who's running the City my friend this is why Charlotte is different than here. Fayetteville? That place comes and goes but Charlotte seems to be consistent.Well said another point to add as a former NYer and Atlien. Competition breeds quality. In NY asking for a tug isn't even required its par for the course in every parlor I've visited. I still do my research before hitting a spot but for the most part especially in NY there isn't a need. There are so many of them if the chicks don't oblige then there is a price to pay. Atlanta is hit or miss depending on the area but even though I was born and raised in NY my first experience was in GA.

HookyPooky
07-30-17, 16:23
I saw her a few months ago.

For "eclectic" read she has conversations about finding oneself & spirituality.

For "aquatic" read she has a shower with you.

She's okay. We spent more time hanging out than massaging (but she didn't clock watch).

At the time I was really looking for a reasonable massage with a good ending. Found the good ending with her but not the massage. May repeat in a pinch.Totaly agree. No clock watching (she is probably losing money) and she talked a lot. There was a 30 min period of silence cause I didn't respond and the massage was decent. On the flip I don't pop quick and she gave it her all and made sure I left happy.

Not first on my list but will visit again. Between her, Nini and Tulip I keep them in rotation. There are a few new ones but I haven't pulled the trigger.

FordDiesel250
07-31-17, 06:52
Well said another point to add as a former NYer and Atlien. Competition breeds quality. In NY asking for a tug isn't even required its par for the course in every parlor I've visited. I still do my research before hitting a spot but for the most part especially in NY there isn't a need. There are so many of them if the chicks don't oblige then there is a price to pay. Atlanta is hit or miss depending on the area but even though I was born and raised in NY my first experience was in GA.Seems like you either get HI or good massage never both. Maybe we can weed out some of the lackluster girls and get some real talent. I've never been to Charlotte for a message but maybe I need to! Good girls are hard to find, great girls are few and far between. They are here today and gone tomorrow. Not enough money I guess.

SailorSam
07-31-17, 11:28
I wonder if our favorite firms could do a workaround, morphing into "Body Churches" (or some such name), rather like the tantric providers that are already in operation. Not offering a "massage" but, instead, a "body worship" session. Perhaps, given separation of church and state, if that "worship" is limited ostensibly to activities similar to massage, but with no therapeutic claim, our sacred ceremonies might continue? Table showers could become baptismal cleansings. I believe it is fairly easy to proclaim yourself a "church". Any legal beagles on this idea? Or is it just plain wacky?There used tho be a place in Rocky Mount that followed that model. I know they closed but I don't know why. I do know I had some great times there.

Tee98
08-02-17, 18:31
Stopped at this place inside Harrison Point in Cary. Walked in and was met by a very old Chinese women. Let me tell you when she ran thru the ugly forest she hit every tree. She was the only one working so I just left. Don't waste your time.

Tee98
08-03-17, 15:27
Sorry guys it's Lucky Feet not Happy Feet. There's nothing happy there.

MD Bellamy
08-03-17, 15:35
There used tho be a place in Rocky Mount that followed that model. I know they closed but I don't know why. I do know I had some great times there.Sam, you have a good memory! Think it was Touch With Klass (TWK). It was set up like a "temple. ".

AlvinPurple
08-06-17, 17:35
Recently went to 0044, mediocre massage and finish. Really don't like the new trend of wiping you down with paper towels before using a hot towel (2nd place this has happened in recent weeks). Took my time dressing and noticed she did not replace ANY of the linens. Sorry whoever is next in the front room, my junk will have touched your butt and that's not something I'm proud to say.

XHippie
08-06-17, 22:51
Recently went to 0044, mediocre massage and finish. Really don't like the new trend of wiping you down with paper towels before using a hot towel (2nd place this has happened in recent weeks). Took my time dressing and noticed she did not replace ANY of the linens. Sorry whoever is next in the front room, my junk will have touched your butt and that's not something I'm proud to say.Paper Towels? Bummer Dude! Here's the Chinese calculation for that. One roll of towels has approx 50 sheets one sheet equals one small clothe towel that does not have to be heated, washed and dried saving on electricity. Now the calculation of how many condoms are in a roll of Saran Wrap that they use for BJ's humm I'll have to get back to you on that one, let me get busy masterbating. 1, 2, 3......

Heelman69
08-07-17, 09:26
Don't fall for this one. She has a very inflated sense of herself. Came over when I was in Richmond, is not even close and never was the girl in the pics. Tats don't lie as they say. LOL She is about a 5 and is overweight and tries to tell you that guys tip her 60 to 100 just for some fun with a non existent massage.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/t-%CF%81-f-%D1%82h%D1%94-l%CE%B9%CE%B7%D1%94-extremely-%D1%95%CF%89%D1%94%D1%94%D1%82-blonde-absolutely-gorgeous/41463633

PHW1130
08-07-17, 10:11
Don't fall for this one. She has a very inflated sense of herself. Came over when I was in Richmond, is not even close and never was the girl in the pics. Tats don't lie as they say. LOL She is about a 5 and is overweight and tries to tell you that guys tip her 60 to 100 just for some fun with a non existent massage.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/t-%CF%81-f-%D1%82h%D1%94-l%CE%B9%CE%B7%D1%94-extremely-%D1%95%CF%89%D1%94%D1%94%D1%82-blonde-absolutely-gorgeous/41463633Thanks, had her on my radar.

Kurt309
08-07-17, 14:26
Hwy 55. Number ending in 8615. Decent looking Korean lady, early 30's, nice body. She did look a little unkempt. Not fresh looking. She explained to me that her monthly visitor was here and I checked and verified, then tried to convenience me to BJ. Well a little more negotiating she agreed to visit the Greek islands. Started with a decent BBBJ, proceeded to try the visit to the island but a little difficult when she is holding the door shut with all her might, so I tried even harder and when I saw the shore coming along she screamed out and threw me overboard. Finished standing on the bow BBBJTCCIM with spit. $.2.

Kurt309
08-07-17, 14:31
Hwy55. Nice place. Good looking girl came out and took me to my room. Nice TS, good massage. Was able to get my body back to normal from a stressful weekend. Will repeat.

AznLovaBoyx35
08-07-17, 16:58
Went there today to kills some time. Even though member left post about not changing sheets and all bad comments I just wanted to see it for myself. Service was so bad that I wanted to let everybody know don't go there. Old looking lady probably around 40's answered door and paid hour for 70 and went into the room. She comes in and started massage I call it just rubbing. One time she was putting pressure hard but that was it. And what is going on with cleaning up with paper towels before hot towel? That was weird. Anyways on the flip she asked me if I wanted pointing at junior and I told her it was up to her because I just didn't care whatever she does at that point. She was doing it HJ and I pointed her mouth and she told me that I am not her husband and she does not even do that for her husband and blah blah blah. I just got so sick and tired of her bull crap story and finished and about to leave and she was asking me about tip. I told her 20 for her to giving me crappy massage but she had good pressure one time that why I said 20 but then she told me she wasted 40 because she was giving me HJ. I said no and she offered 30 I said no then she was telling me don't ever come back and she is not going to massage me again and stuff. I told her that's fine and she turned around and went into room. Guys we need to be smart about these ladies because they think that if they just doing massage and gives us HJ then they think that its good enough to make money. She was demanding that she should get tips such as 40. Well here is my experience with 044 and will jot ever go back because like other monger I was hanging around taking my time to put my clothes back on and she didn't even bother to changing sheets or the towels which I already used to wipe off my junior. That was kinda sick. Be safe guys.

Kurt309
08-10-17, 11:28
Went there this morning, totally different attitude. Started with very little covered BJ. To covered FS. Moved on to FS because she said she was clear of the monthly visitor today. Easily turned into a big mess. Tried to get BBBJ she declined and turned very angry. She tried to give me a $.2 HJ with an attitude. I just quietly got up and left with no finish. What a waste.


Hwy 55. Number ending in 8615. Decent looking Korean lady, early 30's, nice body. She did look a little unkempt. Not fresh looking. She explained to me that her monthly visitor was here and I checked and verified, then tried to convenience me to BJ. Well a little more negotiating she agreed to visit the Greek islands. Started with a decent BBBJ, proceeded to try the visit to the island but a little difficult when she is holding the door shut with all her might, so I tried even harder and when I saw the shore coming along she screamed out and threw me overboard. Finished standing on the bow BBBJTCCIM with spit. $.2.

Kurt309
08-10-17, 11:40
Tried to see a different girl. Got the same address and room number. Should be the same girl.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/no-1-nuru-all-menu-sensitive-36d-hot-asian-doll-ready-to-play-984-260-2466/35860438

NylonFootSniff
08-10-17, 12:09
Anybody tried yin and yang spa in garner?

Pubb69
08-10-17, 15:42
Hwy55. Nice place. Good looking girl came out and took me to my room. Nice TS, good massage. Was able to get my body back to normal from a stressful weekend. Will repeat.Every time I go there and although it is not often I mostly cringe when I see who come to the desk. I went through with it last time but should have walked at the door.

Retro11
08-11-17, 06:41
Anybody tried yin and yang spa in garner?Looks very interesting will try today and post.

PHW1130
08-11-17, 09:32
Looks very interesting will try today and post.Good review #7001. Made 3 visits.

MickeyMic
08-11-17, 16:46
Recently went to 0044, mediocre massage and finish. Really don't like the new trend of wiping you down with paper towels before using a hot towel (2nd place this has happened in recent weeks). Took my time dressing and noticed she did not replace ANY of the linens. Sorry whoever is next in the front room, my junk will have touched your butt and that's not something I'm proud to say.I went a couple weeks ago and pulled Angela. She used to work there a long time ago, and used to be a lot more accommodating. Ima (Eye-mah. Not sure if I'm spelling it right) was the normal girl. She wasn't much to look at and only gave the standard, but her standard was fucking awesome to me, and her rub was pretty good too. I asked where she was, and Angela said something about she needed a driver's license. The rub was boring, she wiped me down with paper towels and the flip was mechanical. The phone rang off the hook that day, but I bet it starts to slow down soon. Dropped. 7 at the door and. 4 tip, which is much less than normal. Disappointed for sure.

RaleighMan0212
08-14-17, 17:08
Hi all, longtime lurker here. Went to VIP recently and did not leave as happy as expected. Someone whose name started with an S took care of my spa appointment. Not sure if it is because she thought it was my first time there (haven't been there since last December or so as I told her). Not sure if she was just blowing smoke and not being honest, but she also claimed at the end that she's the only one working there at the moment. Anyone been to VIP recently? Seemed a bit dead.

PilotPete
08-14-17, 19:59
Very enjoyable visit. Will repeat.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/just-a-sensual-touch-to-melt-your-thoughts-away-to-that-happy-place-text-me-now/34187615

XHippie
08-15-17, 04:46
Hi all, longtime lurker here. Went to VIP recently and did not leave as happy as expected. Someone whose name started with an S took care of my spa appointment. Not sure if it is because she thought it was my first time there (haven't been there since last December or so as I told her). Not sure if she was just blowing smoke and not being honest, but she also claimed at the end that she's the only one working there at the moment. Anyone been to VIP recently? Seemed a bit dead.VIP can be strange based on just what your post said. It's a hit or miss, some guys get more than their money's worth others like you walk away disappointed. I've never been refused like some have reported in the past but I'm also not a black guy, but I've had good and bad visits. The bad was I was 20 shy of what a young lady was asking for a tip which was 160 I pissed her off and said I've never paid 160 here and never will the service is only worth 120 DOH! Maybe an extra 20 if exceptional. Needless to say I didn't nut that visit. The good, I was in the middle of getting ready to get busy with the provider when the door opened and the other lady that took my money came in (with no panties on I discovered) She was short probably close to 50 but had a ass kicking body with a nice rack (just my type Experienced!) My provider was giving a CBJ and this lady was squatting down on my head getting some DATY done to her. She was moaning and laughing at the same time, She was just fucking with me having a good time she only stayed a few minutes then she walked out and said you two have fun. I guess it was a slow boring morning and they both were in a frisky mood. After that I popped in about 3 minutes. Tip 140 and I gave Miss Frisky at the door 40. ALWAYS Bring extra tip money you never know when three's a crowd might happen. So I've had both good and bad there it can be a strange place to visit depending who's working and what mood they are in. This fun visit was pretty early morning before they were stressed or tired I guess I don't know.

FordDiesel250
08-15-17, 07:18
VIP can be strange based on just what your post said. It's a hit or miss, some guys get more than their money's worth others like you walk away disappointed. I've never been refused like some have reported in the past but I'm also not a black guy, but I've had good and bad visits. The bad was I was 20 shy of what a young lady was asking for a tip which was 160 I pissed her off and said I've never paid 160 here and never will the service is only worth 120 DOH! Maybe an extra 20 if exceptional. Needless to say I didn't nut that visit. The good, I was in the middle of getting ready to get busy with the provider when the door opened and the other lady that took my money came in (with no panties on I discovered) She was short probably close to 50 but had a ass kicking body with a nice rack (just my type Experienced!) My provider was giving a CBJ and this lady was squatting down on my head getting some DATY done to her. She was moaning and laughing at the same time, She was just fucking with me having a good time she only stayed a few minutes then she walked out and said you two have fun. I guess it was a slow boring morning and they both were in a frisky mood. After that I popped in about 3 minutes. Tip 140 and I gave Miss Frisky at the door 40. ALWAYS Bring extra tip money you never know when three's a crowd might happen. So I've had both good and bad there it can be a strange place to visit depending who's working and what mood they are in. This fun visit was pretty early morning before they were stressed or tired I guess I don't know.I agree with XHippie, I always go early around 11 am and have never been turned away. Had to wait 20 minutes once for the masseuse but that was it. Only one girl working during the summer months so mamma said. She has been there almost six weeks and new girl coming next week. I never have paid more than 80 for the door and usually leave 120. Always had fun but sometimes being older no pop but it wasn't because she didn't try haha. Asked mamma last time about two girl she told me 80 for house 120 for one 80 for house again and 120 for second. Too steep for me. Mamma is short around 50 but banging body and she does laugh quite a bit. Good personality.

MickeyMic
08-16-17, 14:58
I know some of you guys have contact with some of these girls, so I'm hoping one of you can help me out. Just called #44 and asked if Ima was working there anymore, and she isn't; only Angela, and that is really disappointing these days. Do any of you know if she's still around and where she might be working now? PM if you'd rather.

Thanks!

MM-.

Vjjakob
08-16-17, 16:58
I agree with XHippie, I always go early around 11 am and have never been turned away. Had to wait 20 minutes once for the masseuse but that was it. Only one girl working during the summer months so mamma said. She has been there almost six weeks and new girl coming next week. I never have paid more than 80 for the door and usually leave 120. Always had fun but sometimes being older no pop but it wasn't because she didn't try haha. Asked mamma last time about two girl she told me 80 for house 120 for one 80 for house again and 120 for second. Too steep for me. Mamma is short around 50 but banging body and she does laugh quite a bit. Good personality.Drove out to VIP a few years ago now, and had a few rounds rounds of "busy, come back later" with mamasan. Haven't been back since. With all the nonsense going on with LE and AMPs all around the area, and as transparent as activity at VIP would seem to be by all discussions here, I'm wondering what is special about VIP? Any place closer into metroplex that had the kind of rep they have, for as long as they've had it, would long ago have been targeted. Not sure how VIP is dodging that bullet. It is out a ways, but it isn't off on it's own. Good massage w or w / o HE would be the highlight of finishing work trip to RDU before heading home. Not any more. Just save the funds and enjoy when there's occasion to visit someplace more open-minded than RDU, which these days seems to be just about anywhere.

XHippie
08-17-17, 02:49
Drove out to VIP a few years ago now, and had a few rounds rounds of "busy, come back later" with mamasan. Haven't been back since. With all the nonsense going on with LE and AMPs all around the area, and as transparent as activity at VIP would seem to be by all discussions here, I'm wondering what is special about VIP? Any place closer into metroplex that had the kind of rep they have, for as long as they've had it, would long ago have been targeted. Not sure how VIP is dodging that bullet. It is out a ways, but it isn't off on it's own. Good massage w or w / o HE would be the highlight of finishing work trip to RDU before heading home. Not any more. Just save the funds and enjoy when there's occasion to visit someplace more open-minded than RDU, which these days seems to be just about anywhere.Don't worry it's not like your question will now draw unwanted attention to VIP. I could be totally wrong but IMO the answer to your question about what's so special about VIP. Well it's 2 things "their service" but more importantly "their location". They are not located on Capitol Blvd with a ton of business's around them. And they are not located in Snooty Cary, Wake Forest or Apex (no offense if any of you live there, hey you make more than I do if you can afford the houses and taxes) VIP is way out in Bum Fuckville around a few business's that are just glad some car's are pulling in the parking lot. I'm not sure if the place still exist but if you go further out there was an American Jack Shack on the left that has been there for years. I never went there based on the reviews too expensive and too creepy by some of the reviews I read. These place's in Cary like Apple or the ones that use to be there are on the Radar of LE, town officials, the Massage Board, the neighboring business's, residents. And if they are near a church or school forget about it the word is out by mouth and the media in these locations. I'm sure some of the people that are putting the heat on these Asian Parlors that work for the institution's I listed above live and shop near the places that got busted. This is why I think VIP has and will survive.

Editit
08-17-17, 14:30
I searched the name but nothing to read. Anyone have info? http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/150h-special-sweet-36d-exotic-princess-oils-bodyrubs-vip-body2body/33190092.

IverCity
08-17-17, 15:34
I searched the name but nothing to read. Anyone have info? http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/150h-special-sweet-36d-exotic-princess-oils-bodyrubs-vip-body2body/33190092.http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/raleigh/919-454-5586/1/629169

TheSting24
08-17-17, 15:57
150/ hour is starting to get a little steep for a rub and tug. Damn prices are killing me.


I searched the name but nothing to read. Anyone have info? http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/150h-special-sweet-36d-exotic-princess-oils-bodyrubs-vip-body2body/33190092.

Tee98
08-17-17, 17:16
Needed a massage so I went back to #45. I got a nice Korean girl named Happy she was probably mid 40's small and petite not too bad looking. House fee was $70. The first thing I did when we entered the room I asked if she could please put clean towels down for me and she had no problem with that. Her massage was ok but not great but allowed lots of roaming and gave a nice slow finish. Tip $40.

Editit
08-17-17, 21:19
Needed a massage so I went back to #45. I got a nice Korean girl named Happy she was probably mid 40's small and petite not too bad looking. House fee was $70. The first thing I did when we entered the room I asked if she could please put clean towels down for me and she had no problem with that. Her massage was ok but not great but allowed lots of roaming and gave a nice slow finish. Tip $40.There was a happy at the rainbow in WF. She was ALLOT of fun. ALLOT.

MwmForHotFun
08-18-17, 06:23
Saw this young lady at an AAMP (apartment) off JF. They also have a location in NW Ral.

Probably 19 or 20, English ok. Mama did all communication and guided me to her. . 45 hh with a required. 4 tip.

Girl was very nice, but did not remove any clothes, but allowed roaming on legs and over shorts (rear only).

Said for. 4 more I could look at her with no clothes but no touching or anything else. (pass).

Not FB, only back and ass for 10 min, then rushed flip and happy oil time. Cleaned up and out the door in 15.

YMMV.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-asian-girl-919-349-9452-come-to-my-place/45244058

XHippie
08-18-17, 11:26
Saw this young lady at an AAMP (apartment) off JF. They also have a location in NW Ral.

Probably 19 or 20, English ok. Mama did all communication and guided me to her. . 45 hh with a required. 4 tip.

Girl was very nice, but did not remove any clothes, but allowed roaming on legs and over shorts (rear only).

Said for. 4 more I could look at her with no clothes but no touching or anything else. (pass).

Not FB, only back and ass for 10 min, then rushed flip and happy oil time. Cleaned up and out the door in 15.

YMMV.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-asian-girl-919-349-9452-come-to-my-place/45244058Not good! I went here way back when they first started (if it's the same location off JF) full menu. Advice. Say something to the provider or in this case Mamasan that this was not a good visit she needs another provider that supplies what they advertise or her business will not survive. You will be surprised how fast a new girl will be there. I had this happen one time at Rose in Durham the girl was obviously fresh off the plane and was obviously not aware of what kind of business she was now in but more importantly the history of the service that this particular store offered. This girl actually yelled at me NO TOUCH I Massage you! OK if I can't touch you, you can't touch my tip money, see how that works? Mamasan must not have told her the service's offered, I complained to Mamasan and she was yelling at the girl on my way out the door. That girl was gone quick! They do not want to loose any customer especially a regular customer, they have their net work to find good girls and they know we have our net work to talk about their girls.

TheSting24
08-18-17, 11:46
And they even put "mutual touch" in their add. AND he paid a fairly heavy price.

TS24.


Not good! I went here way back when they first started (if it's the same location off JF) full menu. Advice. Say something to the provider or in this case Mamasan that this was not a good visit she needs another provider that supplies what they advertise or her business will not survive. You will be surprised how fast a new girl will be there. I had this happen one time at Rose in Durham the girl was obviously fresh off the plane and was obviously not aware of what kind of business she was now in but more importantly the history of the service that this particular store offered. This girl actually yelled at me NO TOUCH I Massage you! OK if I can't touch you, you can't touch my tip money, see how that works? Mamasan must not have told her the service's offered, I complained to Mamasan and she was yelling at the girl on my way out the door. That girl was gone quick! They do not want to loose any customer especially a regular customer, they have their net work to find good girls and they know we have our net work to talk about their girls.

Vjjakob
08-18-17, 16:04
Don't worry it's not like your question will now draw unwanted attention to VIP. I could be totally wrong but IMO the answer to your question about what's so special about VIP. Well it's 2 things "their service" but more importantly "their location". They are not located on Capitol Blvd with a ton of business's around them. And they are not located in Snooty Cary, Wake Forest or Apex (no offense if any of you live there, hey you make more than I do if you can afford the houses and taxes) VIP is way out in Bum Fuckville around a few business's that are just glad some car's are pulling in the parking lot. I'm not sure if the place still exist but if you go further out there was an American Jack Shack on the left that has been there for years. I never went there based on the reviews too expensive and too creepy by some of the reviews I read. These place's in Cary like Apple or the ones that use to be there are on the Radar of LE, town officials, the Massage Board, the neighboring business's, residents. And if they are near a church or school forget about it the word is out by mouth and the media in these locations. I'm sure some of the people that are putting the heat on these Asian Parlors that work for the institution's I listed above live and shop near the places that got busted. This is why I think VIP has and will survive.Thanks X. I figured it might be too far out for folks to get animated, but at the same time, there doesn't seem to be any limit to self-righteous moral hypocrisy either. I hope they survive, and so far, history indicates they will. May be more than folks want to spend, and further than most want to go to access it, but at least it establishes a level of service folks can't (mostly) count on.

Appreciate the feedback. VJ.

Editit
08-19-17, 12:31
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/intown-ladies-touch-massage-services/46596393 Ad says you get to choose girl. Wondering if that's true, and if pics are even close.

XHippie
08-19-17, 14:07
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/intown-ladies-touch-massage-services/46596393 Ad says you get to choose girl. Wondering if that's true, and if pics are even close.Open till 2 am sounds promising, may have to check them out some reports would be nice.

MwmForHotFun
08-20-17, 08:55
And they even put "mutual touch" in their add. AND he paid a fairly heavy price.

TS24.Complained to mamasan that it was false advertising and that the girl should do what was promised by mama and in ad. Told her I would not come back and would share with my friends.

XHippie
08-20-17, 11:55
Complained to mamasan that it was false advertising and that the girl should do what was promised by mama and in ad. Told her I would not come back and would share with my friends.Absolutely the right thing to do along with adjusting the tip to the service. Good move!

MwmForHotFun
08-20-17, 13:47
Saw ad again so I texted mama. She said 1. 4 hh /1. 8 for FS this time. We'll see.


Saw this young lady at an AAMP (apartment) off JF. They also have a location in NW Ral.

Probably 19 or 20, English ok. Mama did all communication and guided me to her. . 45 hh with a required. 4 tip.

Girl was very nice, but did not remove any clothes, but allowed roaming on legs and over shorts (rear only).

Said for. 4 more I could look at her with no clothes but no touching or anything else. (pass).

Not FB, only back and ass for 10 min, then rushed flip and happy oil time. Cleaned up and out the door in 15.

YMMV.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-asian-girl-919-349-9452-come-to-my-place/45244058

MwmForHotFun
08-20-17, 14:49
Just called and then drove to 55/54 to see this lady.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/asian-busty-bbandkiss-young/33999341

Assured me by voice and text she does everything, incl shower, uncovered lollipop, kissing. 2 call system got me here and then she ghosted. Not sure what's up.

MD Bellamy
08-20-17, 15:58
There used tho be a place in Rocky Mount that followed that model. I know they closed but I don't know why. I do know I had some great times there.Noticed this in a BP ad in Florida: "THIS ESTABLISHMENT DOES NOT OFFER MASSAGE THERAPY, WE DO NOT HAVE LICENSES TO MAKE MASSAGES, WE DO NOT MAKE MASSAGES PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR MASSAGE" Is this the way to get round the new legislation? (Unfortunately, the ad also says you can get a "soapy massage" in the text!

Nattie
08-20-17, 16:26
I called them to get some information. They are a group of girls that have a couple hotel rooms and the person on the phone said all of the pictures were accurate. Donation is $120 hour but I didn't ask what was included. Located around RTP but I'm guessing they might move around. She said they are just starting out. The person on the phone seemed nice. Looks like someone is going to have to take the plunge. .

Nattie.


Open till 2 am sounds promising, may have to check them out some reports would be nice.

Hanger42
08-20-17, 16:56
I called them to get some information. They are a group of girls that have a couple hotel rooms and the person on the phone said all of the pictures were accurate. Donation is $120 hour but I didn't ask what was included. Located around RTP but I'm guessing they might move around. She said they are just starting out. The person on the phone seemed nice. Looks like someone is going to have to take the plunge. .

Nattie.Makes sense. Phone number ties back to a visiting provider.

XHippie
08-20-17, 17:36
Noticed this in a BP ad in Florida: "THIS ESTABLISHMENT DOES NOT OFFER MASSAGE THERAPY, WE DO NOT HAVE LICENSES TO MAKE MASSAGES, WE DO NOT MAKE MASSAGES PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR MASSAGE" Is this the way to get round the new legislation? (Unfortunately, the ad also says you can get a "soapy massage" in the text!I've seen a few ads in the body rub section that said something like "no massage offered" fee is for adult conversation and companionship I am not a licensed therapist. In most States the "owner" needs a Business License, Fire Inspection to open a Spa. If Massage's will be done a "massage establishment license" will need to be obtained from city hall and anyone performing massage must have a license the "owner is not required to have a massage license unless they are massaging. Now if let's say I was to open a store, I get the business permit and call it a foot spa / sauna. I can hire anyone because it is not a "Massage" Spa. Customers are just getting foot rubs and enjoying a table shower and sauna. Just don't get caught doing table / Chair massages.

MedJohnson
08-21-17, 08:05
Just another fake Asian ad. No massage.

Med.


Just called and then drove to 55/54 to see this lady.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/asian-busty-bbandkiss-young/33999341

Assured me by voice and text she does everything, incl shower, uncovered lollipop, kissing. 2 call system got me here and then she ghosted. Not sure what's up.

MedJohnson
08-21-17, 08:06
Some great talent around right now if you know where to look.

Med.

MedJohnson
08-21-17, 08:14
I wonder if the drama will be public or private when they implode b / c 1-2 girls get all the calls.

Med.


I called them to get some information. They are a group of girls that have a couple hotel rooms and the person on the phone said all of the pictures were accurate. Donation is $120 hour but I didn't ask what was included. Located around RTP but I'm guessing they might move around. She said they are just starting out. The person on the phone seemed nice. Looks like someone is going to have to take the plunge. .

Nattie.

PilotPete
08-21-17, 15:06
Saw Hannah here yesterday and was happy with the massage / body treatment. Very much as expected.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/all-new-grand-open-in-durham-nean-moon-spa-919-251-8101-s/34622434

ShockerShocks
08-22-17, 19:56
Saw Hannah here yesterday and was happy with the massage / body treatment. Very much as expected.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/all-new-grand-open-in-durham-nean-moon-spa-919-251-8101-s/34622434In Cary this week for business trip. Any AMP FS BJ in Cary? Recommended Escorts? PM if you have any info. Thanks.

MotivationNc
08-23-17, 00:17
Open till 2 am sounds promising, may have to check them out some reports would be nice.Maybe its me or is their 3 different girls with the same tummy piercing. This ad looks a little funny to me.

FordDiesel250
08-23-17, 06:25
New girl has arrived at very important place. 35 ish, perfect body about 105 lbs, good attitude, good firm pressure. Go see here, you won't be disappointed.

TheSting24
08-23-17, 10:31
Cary has recent problems with uncle.

No FS; BJ-very unlikely.

TS24.


In Cary this week for business trip. Any AMP FS BJ in Cary? Recommended Escorts? PM if you have any info. Thanks.

PilotPete
08-23-17, 19:28
Recent visit had pros & cons.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/what-you-waiting-on-49/33266278

Pros: Nice safe and comfortable location, standard pricing, pictures in BP post are accurate, Mature but fit and trim body with b+ or c cup, good table, unscented oil, soft jazz, sensual rub with good attention pre-flip, nude body slides, full access mutual touch with HE, easy to schedule & good communication, nice lady, warm wash cloth cleanup, no shorting on time. Not a motor mouth.

Cons: Age is obvious above the shoulders more GILF than MILF. And a bit rougher than I prefer handling of junior (she did adjust when asked though). Not a con for me, but no other services were offered or requested.

I think a few visits to get in the right groove with her would yield good results if FBSM with HE is your goal.

ShockerShocks
08-23-17, 20:31
Cary has recent problems with uncle.

No FS; BJ-very unlikely.

TS24.Where can I find FS, BJ AMP? Please provide list with address. PM Me with details.

MedJohnson
08-24-17, 14:22
Some research and go exploring. Am I wrong or does everyone need to pay their dues?

AMPs don't need any more public attention.

Stay safe.

Med


Where can I find FS, BJ AMP? Please provide list with address. PM Me with details.

Hanger42
08-24-17, 15:50
Some research and go exploring. Am I wrong or does everyone need to pay their dues?

AMPs don't need any more public attention.

Stay safe.

MedNot so much as paying dues. But RTDB (read the doggone board) - research and listen. Cary and most all of Raleigh / wake county has uncle issues now. Things have dried up. I do agree with Med. Any AMP that has FS is going UTR. And I don't know of a AMP that is exceeding a basic rub and if I did i wouldn't broadcast it.

TheSting24
08-24-17, 16:31
Thank You. Solid, quality information. Much appreciated. Been watching and wondering.

I think this is the general direction we are headed these days; maybe forever (just kidding) until the scene landscape changes, which will be a while.

TS24.


Recent visit had pros & cons.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/what-you-waiting-on-49/33266278

Pros: Nice safe and comfortable location, standard pricing, pictures in BP post are accurate, Mature but fit and trim body with b+ or c cup, good table, unscented oil, soft jazz, sensual rub with good attention pre-flip, nude body slides, full access mutual touch with HE, easy to schedule & good communication, nice lady, warm wash cloth cleanup, no shorting on time. Not a motor mouth.

Cons: Age is obvious above the shoulders more GILF than MILF. And a bit rougher than I prefer handling of junior (she did adjust when asked though). Not a con for me, but no other services were offered or requested.

I think a few visits to get in the right groove with her would yield good results if FBSM with HE is your goal.

XHippie
08-24-17, 16:53
Some research and go exploring. Am I wrong or does everyone need to pay their dues?

AMPs don't need any more public attention.

Stay safe.

MedLet's face it there is a TON of info that gets reported online on many boards about where, who, what and how much! There are board's in certain cities where the info is enormous and detailed daily without any problems for the customers or providers. Then there are area's where the heat is on like here. Is it a result of the area's restrictions (who lives there and manages the city) or the result of detailed info being posted used against the providers? Or both! This is a pussy Board used to share info the question is, is it being used against us I don't know. I do know I was once "corrected" by Admin in my early days of posting to never make a post that tries to discourage another member posting their views or info about their experience. So, I'm going to keep posting about having a good time visit or a reeealy good time involving a piece of pussy. If anyone myself included is paranoid about giving addresses or names I guess that's why USASG provided us with PM. I think this topic is really related to the problems the AMP's are having with the license. Skip over to the BackPage post section and there are names, prices, sometimes address's so the post there are what they should be. Sharing info about pussy. I agree the problems the AMP's are having will make us change our strategy a little about what info we put out there. The area drying up is bad but if the info dries up we are all fucked.

MedJohnson
08-24-17, 17:58
My point was that Shock should contribute something before rushing in here looking for the best places to get explicit services. I was also suggesting to read the board. And I am looking out for number 1- my favorite places give me anything I want and sometimes more and I would like to keep them open. Other cities are not under the continual pressure that we are under here.

I've got a UTR in the works so ya'all can post away, but when they get busted, don't come on here complaining about it.

Stay Safe.

Med.


Let's face it there is a TON of info that gets reported online on many boards about where, who, what and how much! There are board's in certain cities where the info is enormous and detailed daily without any problems for the customers or providers. Then there are area's where the heat is on like here. Is it a result of the area's restrictions (who lives there and manages the city) or the result of detailed info being posted used against the providers? Or both! This is a pussy Board used to share info the question is, is it being used against us I don't know. I do know I was once "corrected" by Admin in my early days of posting to never make a post that tries to discourage another member posting their views or info about their experience. So, I'm going to keep posting about having a good time visit or a reeealy good time involving a piece of pussy. If anyone myself included is paranoid about giving addresses or names I guess that's why USASG provided us with PM. I think this topic is really related to the problems the AMP's are having with the license. Skip over to the BackPage post section and there are names, prices, sometimes address's so the post there are what they should be. Sharing info about pussy. I agree the problems the AMP's are having will make us change our strategy a little about what info we put out there. The area drying up is bad but if the info dries up we are all fucked.

XHippie
08-24-17, 18:14
My point was that Shock should contribute something before rushing in here looking for the best places to get explicit services. I was also suggesting to read the board. And I am looking out for number 1- my favorite places give me anything I want and sometimes more and I would like to keep them open. Other cities are not under the continual pressure that we are under here.

I've got a UTR in the works so ya'all can post away, but when they get busted, don't come on here complaining about it.

Stay Safe.

Med.Oh I agree, I think we all are making the same point about giving out explicit details there's a price to pay! In a AMP area like this what ya do tell all or be cautious. The cops see the ads all they have to do is visit wait for the offer and pop them, like shooting fish in a barrel. What LE reads just gives them the nuts and bolts, names, prices, actions, locations. But they could put a list on a wall and throw a dart and come out with the same results. It's just the nature of the area we live in, it's not our fault the girls chose this occupation, we are the victims LOL.

MedJohnson
08-24-17, 18:48
Good points. I think we generally have a similar perspective.

Stay Safe.

Med.


Oh I agree, I think we all are making the same point about giving out explicit details there's a price to pay! In a AMP area like this what ya do tell all or be cautious. The cops see the ads all they have to do is visit wait for the offer and pop them, like shooting fish in a barrel. What LE reads just gives them the nuts and bolts, names, prices, actions, locations. But they could put a list on a wall and throw a dart and come out with the same results. It's just the nature of the area we live in, it's not our fault the girls chose this occupation, we are the victims LOL.

FordDiesel250
08-25-17, 09:05
Good points. I think we generally have a similar perspective.

Stay Safe.

Med.Sign of the times. I agree details should be PM'ed. I like my go to place and aleast they "act" like they enjoy me cumming. LMAO Places are easy to find, good place hard to find, great places impossible to find.

Peace.

Kurt309
08-25-17, 11:06
Suite 110. Drew a nice looking small petite lady. Mid 40's. Decent massage, decent tease. Flip, seemed spooked. Did not like to hear of utr, just light otr touching. Decent slow tug. Will not repeat.

JakeLaMotta69
08-25-17, 11:17
Can anyone comment on Amber? I think she may work or used to work with Kelly. Thanks in advance.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/curvy-amber-big-boobs-big-butt/46945258

CaptianJack
08-26-17, 01:11
Anyone been to VIP lately? I've been thinking about a trip but it's a trip (about an hour) so if any SMs have been there lately PM me with the details please.

XHippie
08-26-17, 01:31
Anyone been to VIP lately? I've been thinking about a trip but it's a trip (about an hour) so if any SMs have been there lately PM me with the details please.Scroll down a few post FordDiesel250 posted a ditty on 8/23.

jobobtheclown
08-26-17, 08:33
Can anyone comment on Amber? I think she may work or used to work with Kelly. Thanks in advance.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/curvy-amber-big-boobs-big-butt/46945258Well, pics are definitely fake, for what it's worth. Just cut the heads off images available on the web.

Nc Forever
08-27-17, 09:40
can anyone comment on amber? I think she may work or used to work with kelly. Thanks in advance.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/therapeuticmassage/curvy-amber-big-boobs-big-butt/46945258no touching!!

Nattie
08-28-17, 08:16
Captain,

I sent you a PM.

Nattie.


Anyone been to VIP lately? I've been thinking about a trip but it's a trip (about an hour) so if any SMs have been there lately PM me with the details please.

MedJohnson
08-28-17, 10:31
Pretty sure she has a history of scamming.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/red-hot-masseuse-book-appointment-and-view-videos-here/38987133

Stay safe.

Med.

Maxamillion8
08-28-17, 12:15
She has some reviews on OTher site. She has some history. Not a scam but experience may differ from person to person. I personally have never been in that area but she is not LE nor have any handlers. The worst I can think is her looks and service may not be as good as her pics.


Pretty sure she has a history of scamming.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/red-hot-masseuse-book-appointment-and-view-videos-here/38987133

Stay safe.

Med.

Brneyehound
08-28-17, 15:19
Could I get a PM about VIP also blast visit was A little disappointing and I'd hate to make that level of donation for the level of service I received last time again.

FordDiesel250
08-31-17, 14:34
Seems like the long dog days of summer have taken it toll. Not much happening, same old same old. Everyone is scared to share details (me included) afraid to mess up our good things. Need something refreshing like new talent, new subjects or something. Maybe remembering old times like it use to be. That's it, let's talk about the past, when we were younger, the girls were prettier, and got a decent massage and a HE for way less money, the old go to spots. IDK just kind of boring now with no action going on.

Peace.

Maxamillion8
08-31-17, 21:15
I agree with you. I take first chance but not too old monger like some of you. My first place was studio salon with coco. Best massage iv ever had with decent HJ initially which turned to Mild BJ sometimes with just $20 roses. Not sure if similar arrangements will be available anytime soon.


Seems like the long dog days of summer have taken it toll. Not much happening, same old same old. Everyone is scared to share details (me included) afraid to mess up our good things. Need something refreshing like new talent, new subjects or something. Maybe remembering old times like it use to be. That's it, let's talk about the past, when we were younger, the girls were prettier, and got a decent massage and a HE for way less money, the old go to spots. IDK just kind of boring now with no action going on.

Peace.

XHippie
08-31-17, 22:47
I agree with you. I take first chance but not too old monger like some of you. My first place was studio salon with coco. Best massage iv ever had with decent HJ initially which turned to Mild BJ sometimes with just $20 roses. Not sure if similar arrangements will be available anytime soon.Hey wait a minute I remember that day, I was right next door. Wendy was giving birth to me. Those two girls put a lot of smiles on some faces.

Maxamillion8
09-01-17, 01:32
If I knew you back then and your presence, I would have taken some insights from you. But honestly, I had best time in PA in julay since studio salon's downfall. Shared contact with some fellow mongers. Hope they also enjoyed their time. We need those establishments here.

Sometimes I think all of us should gather and start our own place and save all the trouble. Those who need clients should join our establishment. LOL.


Hey wait a minute I remember that day, I was right next door. Wendy was giving birth to me. Those two girls put a lot of smiles on some faces.

Tee98
09-01-17, 05:54
Hey wait a minute I remember that day, I was right next door. Wendy was giving birth to me. Those two girls put a lot of smiles on some faces.You are correct and I have a huge smile on my face because Coco is lying naked next to me right now. What a sight she doesn't have an ounce of body fat and she has let that beautiful head of hair grow real long. It's hard to believe that a girl that looks this good is a grandmother. We are spending the next 2 weeks together traveling around the country.

FordDiesel250
09-01-17, 06:28
If I knew you back then and your presence, I would have taken some insights from you. But honestly, I had best time in PA in julay since studio salon's downfall. Shared contact with some fellow mongers. Hope they also enjoyed their time. We need those establishments here.

Sometimes I think all of us should gather and start our own place and save all the trouble. Those who need clients should join our establishment. LOL.I agree, we need our own place, All Members Free!

Awh the first time, nervous, excited, anticipation, the lie, yea I've been her before, and then, she walked in "you want shower?" and it was on like Donkey Kong! Been hooked ever since. LMAO.

FordDiesel250
09-01-17, 06:47
Check out the Charlotte Board under Massages about Kyoto and the new girl Cookie, I see a road trip in my near future!

XHippie
09-01-17, 11:43
Check out the Charlotte Board under Massages about Kyoto and the new girl Cookie, I see a road trip in my near future!Speaking of road trip, if any of you head down to Orlando anytime soon with the family and need to slip away for some relaxation hit me up for some leads. I kept my notes of course as fast as these places change the notes could become out dated quick. The girls are young attractive and you will be lucky if you make it out of the TS without busting a nut, the prices are about the same as there. Example I had one girl in the TS which I normally don't do give an amazing BBBJ she just went for it like a wild cat I had to literally pull her off of me. She was a total nymph offered Greek no extra charge climbed on the bed to cuddle afterwards. I've hit about 5 of these places several times with this level of service and had different girls each time. There's one or 2 that are even a notch above these that I've seen as far as service and the way the girls look but they are a little out of my budget. You could hit one of these places each day of the week for a month a draw a different provider that offers standard service or FS depending on your desire's and budget. Fellas Raleigh, Durham & Cary has a ways to go, at least Charlotte's road trip is not too far away.

Maxamillion8
09-01-17, 13:09
Iv been following Orlando Board for some time as I am going to be there after a couple of weeks for 2 days of a business trip. PM me some leads dude. I know you are little active there as well.


Speaking of road trip, if any of you head down to Orlando anytime soon with the family and need to slip away for some relaxation hit me up for some leads. I kept my notes of course as fast as these places change the notes could become out dated quick. The girls are young attractive and you will be lucky if you make it out of the TS without busting a nut, the prices are about the same as there. Example I had one girl in the TS which I normally don't do give an amazing BBBJ she just went for it like a wild cat I had to literally pull her off of me. She was a total nymph offered Greek no extra charge climbed on the bed to cuddle afterwards. I've hit about 5 of these places several times with this level of service and had different girls each time. There's one or 2 that are even a notch above these that I've seen as far as service and the way the girls look but they are a little out of my budget. You could hit one of these places each day of the week for a month a draw a different provider that offers standard service or FS depending on your desire's and budget. Fellas Raleigh, Durham & Cary has a ways to go, at least Charlotte's road trip is not too far away.

XHippie
09-02-17, 01:30
Iv been following Orlando Board for some time as I am going to be there after a couple of weeks for 2 days of a business trip. PM me some leads dude. I know you are little active there as well.Done! Enjoy.

Pubb69
09-02-17, 15:03
Iv been following Orlando Board for some time as I am going to be there after a couple of weeks for 2 days of a business trip. PM me some leads dude. I know you are little active there as well.Is that close to the area where some insane sherif is busting johns with entrapment and making it his life's work.

XHippie
09-02-17, 17:36
Is that close to the area where some insane sherif is busting johns with entrapment and making it his life's work.I haven't heard or read anything about that sort of thing in the past or present. He could get in trouble for causing entrapment, OH wait a minute he would be ok he would just get pardoned, DOH!

Pubb69
09-02-17, 19:01
I haven't heard or read anything about that sort of thing in the past or present. He could get in trouble for causing entrapment, OH wait a minute he would be ok he would just get pardoned, DOH!The guy was on national tv and famous for his great work, I can't remember exactly but it might have been Broward county.

They were posting suggestive adds on B. P. And arresting them as soon as they walked through the door catching these criminals and keeping Florida safe. If I remember correctly I think he did run into some legal trouble for his overzealousness.

XHippie
09-02-17, 21:04
The guy was on national tv and famous for his great work, I can't remember exactly but it might have been Broward county.

They were posting suggestive adds on B. P. And arresting them as soon as they walked through the door catching these criminals and keeping Florida safe. If I remember correctly I think he did run into some legal trouble for his overzealousness.Every once in awhile certain cities have individuals or a group that goes a little radical and tries to take the law into their own hands cleaning up the streets or some Sheriff thinks he's in charge of the fucking State and becomes a vigilante. Have not heard anything through my sources that this is a problem in Florida with this Sheriff you mention but it is a big state and I only know so many low life's for info lol I'm sure it does happen. . There is a long stretch of road in Orlando called OBT. Orange Blossom Trail that is heaven for guys that like street walkers. There was a dude hassling the girls acting like a fake cop getting service or their cash then threatening them with arrest etc. But I think some handlers caught him in the act and communicated with him. Some backpage girls have to be careful because this can be a dangerous problem, this is why in some of their ads they say age limits & no thugs. They are a easy target unless they have a handler close by. Some AMP's through some bad experiences have learned a few tricks from the BP girls. I know of several AMP's that always have a boyfriend / husband / business associate in the kitchen or break room to help watch over the store in case someone gets too rough or gets a full hour then demands his money back or just being an asshole or fucked up on alcohol or drugs. Some guys come in late at night wired. Thieves and shit heads know or think these girls are alone and deal mostly in cash, but like I said there are many that are not alone and their friends are packing. I personally know this dude that has a girlfriend that owns a store. This fucker could be Shaq's twin brother would not won't to fuck with those girls in a bad way at that store. I think he's part owner so he does take it personally. It only appears the girls are operating the store alone, this ain't no game it's business.

Sigurd
09-02-17, 21:20
The guy was on national tv and famous for his great work, I can't remember exactly but it might have been Broward county.

They were posting suggestive adds on B. P. And arresting them as soon as they walked through the door catching these criminals and keeping Florida safe. If I remember correctly I think he did run into some legal trouble for his overzealousness.You are correct: BP fake ad by uncle LEO, then sting. News item: Daytona Beach (city official, manager) resigned after being caught up in a prostitution sting, authorities said Tuesday. Mr xyz submitted his resignation two days after showing up at a hotel in Daytona Beach Shores expecting to have sex with a 22-year-old college student for money, according to charging documents released by the Volusia County State Attorney's Office. An undercover female deputy sheriff placed an ad on Backpage.com pretending to be a student looking for a "discreet upscale gentleman. " The ad stated that the woman wanted to make extra money and was offering "Christmas specials. ".

Happened back in Dec. Be safe!

Nick52
09-05-17, 00:10
Money grubbed the whole time I was there. Terrible massage and wanted another $$ on top of house fee for FS. She was cute, but not that cute, and for the quality of the rub and the finish, she definitely wasn't worth an extra $$.Money grubbing still exist here at 0340 (also 9090). And my experience was some what terrible or I'll say I should have went to other option. I have read previous reviews, but I know they are on rotation and I had a amazing time at -1423 which also had some bad reviews. So I have given this one a chance and I really needed a massage and possible more.

Went for a hr. Ask for 60. I given her that and a Hamilton. I'll give the woman a 6-7 on the looks. Low to mid 30's. After the donation was set. I went to go laid face down and she kept mention thirty minutes. I had to correct her and said no a hour and snatch a Jackson out of her hand. Of course she snatch it back and agrees. This should have been one sign. And BTW the English was terrible.

The massage was some what boring and below average compare to other aamp and AMP in the area. Within 10 minutes of that. She had me flip over and had to remind her I'm here for a hour. 5 minutes later she start requesting a tip. And we argue over this for a good five minutes, cause I mainly want to make sure I'm getting what I'm tipping. Long story short, she requested a extra franklin, which I wasn't carrying on me. So we agree with 80. When I thought we agree on for FS. After the tip, of course she understand some English and said BJ and clothes off only. But it was to late now as she walk away with the tip (since she learn I'll take the money back). Clothes didn't come off as I try, but got a lame CBJ. But it got the job done I guess. Got clean up. And massage my back more as I requested. Because again, I pay for a hour. But everything felt rush. And the language barrier was terrible.

All in all, I was their for about forty minutes and left them with franklin + Grant. This visit really makes me want to retire, since I'm planning on it in the near future. But most importantly, makes me want to stick with my regulars. I have visit -1423. Got a better massage and more for 30 less. And I would rather prefer seeing Jazmin (w / no FS but walk out happy) for a couple bills more then visiting this aamp.

XHippie
09-05-17, 16:06
Money grubbing still exist here at 0340 (also 9090). And my experience was some what terrible or I'll say I should have went to other option. I have read previous reviews, but I know they are on rotation and I had a amazing time at -1423 which also had some bad reviews. So I have given this one a chance and I really needed a massage and possible more.

Went for a hr. Ask for 60. I given her that and a Hamilton. I'll give the woman a 6-7 on the looks. Low to mid 30's. After the donation was set. I went to go laid face down and she kept mention thirty minutes. I had to correct her and said no a hour and snatch a Jackson out of her hand. Of course she snatch it back and agrees. This should have been one sign. And BTW the English was terrible.

The massage was some what boring and below average compare to other aamp and AMP in the area. Within 10 minutes of that. She had me flip over and had to remind her I'm here for a hour. 5 minutes later she start requesting a tip. And we argue over this for a good five minutes, cause I mainly want to make sure I'm getting what I'm tipping. Long story short, she requested a extra franklin, which I wasn't carrying on me. So we agree with 80. When I thought we agree on for FS. After the tip, of course she understand some English and said BJ and clothes off only. But it was to late now as she walk away with the tip (since she learn I'll take the money back). Clothes didn't come off as I try, but got a lame CBJ. But it got the job done I guess. Got clean up. And massage my back more as I requested. Because again, I pay for a hour. But everything felt rush. And the language barrier was terrible.

All in all, I was their for about forty minutes and left them with franklin + Grant. This visit really makes me want to retire, since I'm planning on it in the near future. But most importantly, makes me want to stick with my regulars. I have visit -1423. Got a better massage and more for 30 less. And I would rather prefer seeing Jazmin (w / no FS but walk out happy) for a couple bills more then visiting this aamp.This is just my opinion and experience's with AAMP and I'm sure many have had better luck than me. IMO in a perfect world the best Asian provider place to visit would be in this order and starts to decrease. 1. A VIP type place where the girls are hot & open to anything prices are ok the place is an actual Spa a massage and full menu is offered. 2. A Standard rub and tug place BUT there is one maybe 2 girls there that will get nasty (West Gate / Studio Salon) 3. Rub and tug only. 4. Great massage but only a massage. 5. AAMP. Why did I put AAMP last? Because of 2 reasons. The chance of getting your money's worth such as a half ass massage and a decent HE in the time you paid for is 50/50 based on my experience! 2. More than likely minimal quality service will be received. The fact is the Chinese historically have built stores with the bare minimum to make their investment back build their profits and take as little hit as possible when they close. Cheap construction, linens, decor, and employees that have little experience or English skills. Don't get me wrong it's a good business model that I agree with. Again not all do this I've been in some really nice and comfortable stores in the past in this area. But the fact is thrifty is always in the mix. So IMO, AAMP's are the king of thrifty, no construction no equipment no store lease no many things that are involved owning a store. They cash in until it stops and their exit plan is just go. So The level of girls getting into the AAMP business is not that great and my guess is many of them have probably not been that successful in a store environment the reason they are in the AAMP business. So I guess my point is at least the way I feel about it is. To get what I pay for in a AAMP visit is very doubtful unless I've read or gotten some good intel on a particular girl. Just my experience with the 4 that I visited so far. AAMP's are a good concept but I've yet to see 2 or 3 hot ass girls get their act together and do it right.

Pubb69
09-05-17, 17:35
This is just my opinion and experience's with AAMP and I'm sure many have had better luck than me. IMO in a perfect world the best Asian provider place to visit would be in this order and starts to decrease. 1. A VIP type place where the girls are hot & open to anything prices are ok the place is an actual Spa a massage and full menu is offered. 2. A Standard rub and tug place BUT there is one maybe 2 girls there that will get nasty (West Gate / Studio Salon) 3. Rub and tug only. 4. Great massage but only a massage. 5. AAMP. Why did I put AAMP last? Because of 2 reasons. The chance of getting your money's worth such as a half ass massage and a decent HE in the time you paid for is 50/50 based on my experience! 2. More than likely minimal quality service will be received. The fact is the Chinese historically have built stores with the bare minimum to make their investment back build their profits and take as little hit as possible when they close. Cheap construction, linens, decor, and employees that have little experience or English skills. Don't get me wrong it's a good business model that I agree with. Again not all do this I've been in some really nice and comfortable stores in the past in this area. But the fact is thrifty is always in the mix. So IMO, AAMP's are the king of thrifty, no construction no equipment no store lease no many things that are involved owning a store. They cash in until it stops and their exit plan is just go. So The level of girls getting into the AAMP business is not that great and my guess is many of them have probably not been that successful in a store environment the reason they are in the AAMP business. So I guess my point is at least the way I feel about it is. To get what I pay for in a AAMP visit is very doubtful unless I've read or gotten some good intel on a particular girl. Just my experience with the 4 that I visited so far. AAMP's are a good concept but I've yet to see 2 or 3 hot ass girls get their act together and do it right.Review after review says they are practically a ripoff, I tried it once and got the same experience as everyone else.

They cheat on the hour, have no massage skills, don't look anywhere near the pics and upsell. What's not to like? LOL.

Froggy5
09-06-17, 07:35
Anyone tried it?

https://greensboro.craigslist.org/thp/d/grand-openinglees-foot-spa/6293763983.html

XHippie
09-06-17, 13:39
Anyone tried it?

https://greensboro.craigslist.org/thp/d/grand-openinglees-foot-spa/6293763983.html"Private room" for foot massage sounds like possibilities.

Bronco Driver
09-06-17, 16:42
"Q" in Burlington on Ramada rd. Is was Asia on Huffman mill. GSO page updated on "Q". Fantasy in gram is closed. According to Burlington news story is believed to have moved to Durham. The "foot" place is related to the ws store and has a average review. The well is drying up in Alamance.

T.

Bronco Driver
09-06-17, 17:02
Somewhat new in the area. Current location is VERY dry. Read threads on veering in product and flower in ral. Over hour drive so sum info would be greatly appreciated. PM ok. Thanks.

Bill Dautrieve
09-06-17, 19:38
Hi guys coming to Raleigh very soon and wondered if anyone had any info on Krista?

I've seen her ad on BP and CL. CL seems like legit massage but BP ad seems a little more open minded.

Any info greatly appreciated before I call her.

NeedsSome
09-07-17, 13:40
I had a great visit at #40 the other day. I have been there several times now and each time I have had good service, fresh towels and a good massage. When I arrived I guess they were slow and one of the girls was doing Hula Hoops in the entry area. I paid for an hour and got the full hour. I will defiantly be returning.

XHippie
09-07-17, 16:26
This post has nothing to do with getting pussy but it is related to the girls working in the AMP's, just a personal ditti. Alot of girls have been here for years so they are use to everything like us. But I seem to forget that many also see things totally different than most of us. It's like they are still in the tourist mode the way they see things. Trying new food, going for a ride in the country, going to the movie theater or just going to the mall things like this is a wow for them. For example a few things that my girlfriend does all the time one just the other day. Just about everytime we eat out she will panic and say NO don't EAT IT "I have to take a picture". LOL she wants to take a picture of the food and send it to her daughter in China so she can see what her mama's having for breakfast. This happens at lunch and dinner sometimes. I took her to the Angus Barn one night she was all over the restaurant I thought we were going to get kicked out but they let her have her fun. She's got me trained not to touch my plate until she gives me the ok LOL. The other day I brought her to Orlando to spend some time with me and help out a friend in a massage store. She's been fascinated by the panic here everyone talking about the Hurricane buying gas, water, food, all the customers talking about it. So here's the cute part. Since the Hurricane is on everyone's mind when the customers leave the store she tells them in a sincere voice "good bye have a happy Hurricane" LMAO I was in the break room when I heard her tell a customer that. I asked her to repeat it she said it's OK? I thought for a second and said it's fine sweetie. That's my girl. So if you ever get a chance take one of these girls for a walk at Lake Johnson or to a movie they will thank you for it believe me. Maybe this post will help you get some pussy.

Editit
09-08-17, 08:24
Hi guys coming to Raleigh very soon and wondered if anyone had any info on Krista?

I've seen her ad on BP and CL. CL seems like legit massage but BP ad seems a little more open minded.

Any info greatly appreciated before I call her.She is not worth it. Some guys think she is great. I went once and found it hard to enjoy. Once was more than enough. Cheaper and better options out there for a rubntug.

PilotPete
09-08-17, 10:19
Stopped in here for some relief after traveling and the younger girl (s?) were already busy, so I elected to have Mamasan provide a massage. She is a bit older but experienced in the way I like, so I left feeling much better. Will repeat. As always, your tastes and experiences may vary.

Squiggy6969
09-08-17, 12:15
Going to try this one out this weekend. There have been a few reviews on here but nothing recent. Has anyone been there lately? Anybody particular that you would recommend.

Maxamillion8
09-08-17, 14:00
Tried to search but couple of them coming up like most asians places. Do you have contact info or location? I would like to give it a shot.


Stopped in here for some relief after traveling and the younger girl (s?) were already busy, so I elected to have Mamasan provide a massage. She is a bit older but experienced in the way I like, so I left feeling much better. Will repeat. As always, your tastes and experiences may vary.

PartTimeMonger
09-09-17, 08:52
Tried to search but couple of them coming up like most asians places. Do you have contact info or location? I would like to give it a shot.Not sure if this is what he was referring to but it had the same name as his post.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-sweet-staff-best-services-no-1-choice-919-756-9274/40060288

Kurt309
09-09-17, 09:04
S. Miami is the old Rose Spa crew Madam and Sasha. I was there on Friday and nothing has changed. The place needs some fresh air, had a unpleasant funeral home smell.


Not sure if this is what he was referring to but it had the same name as his post.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-sweet-staff-best-services-no-1-choice-919-756-9274/40060288

Marshst924
09-09-17, 14:28
I'm reading and reading and there is not much info here? If there are FS AMPs, can anyone PM me? I guess rub and tug is a decent backup plan. I'm in crabtree valley, but can drive a little. Sounds like LEO is watching this board?

Purple45
09-09-17, 16:02
I'm reading and reading and there is not much info here? If there are FS AMPs, can anyone PM me? I guess rub and tug is a decent backup plan. I'm in crabtree valley, but can drive a little. Sounds like LEO is watching this board?You have to go back a year to find good info. There has been been some LEO licensing checks in Cary that has put a damper on local activities. Check JJ's list for the area AMPs. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?13592-JJ-s-List&p=3459146&viewfull=1#post3459146.

PartTimeMonger
09-09-17, 17:59
I'm reading and reading and there is not much info here? If there are FS AMPs, can anyone PM me? I guess rub and tug is a decent backup plan. I'm in crabtree valley, but can drive a little. Sounds like LEO is watching this board?AAMPs in my experience have always been FS. JJs list is a good reference for the available AMPs. If you look at the women seeking men section of BP, there are a lot of asian ads. The girls are comparable to the ones you see at AAMPs but you may also get unlucky. Massage isn't the focus with these though, even if they advertise it.

Marshst924
09-10-17, 22:14
Thanks to those that reached out to help me with your codes around here. I was in a hurry, so I ended up seeing Tiffany. She's at the AAMP on glenwood (9054). 180/280. I went with half and was out in 20 minutes. Rushed and she kept checking her phone. Told a shower was okay, but not so. She sprayed alcohol and that burns. Pretty attractive except she had a couple dark teeth. Nice spinner body. Really hairy Bush. Oh and there's a dude sleeping on the couch as I enter and he's making a sandwich as I'm leaving. Not great. Not horrible. Possibly I'd check out one of the other ones for a short visit, since they supposedly have 3 there.

Marshst924
09-11-17, 23:15
Thanks to those that reached out to help me with your codes around here. I was in a hurry, so I ended up seeing Tiffany. She's at the AAMP on glenwood (9054). 180/280. I went with half and was out in 20 minutes. Rushed and she kept checking her phone. Told a shower was okay, but not so. She sprayed alcohol and that burns. Pretty attractive except she had a couple dark teeth. Nice spinner body. Really hairy Bush. Oh and there's a dude sleeping on the couch as I enter and he's making a sandwich as I'm leaving. Not great. Not horrible. Possibly I'd check out one of the other ones for a short visit, since they supposedly have 3 there.I probably should have started this thread over in the BP section. Anyhow, I went to try one of the other girls tonight. Confirmed twice through text I wanted to try a different girl. Surprise, it was Tiffany again. Said the other girl is busy when I saw her laying in the other room in bed on her phone. I'm not the type to walk out or cause a scene and there's quite a few of them staying in that apt. Annoying tho and I wouldn't have seen Tiffany again since I like variety. Lesson learned. Asians say anything to get you in the door.

Toy Soldier
09-12-17, 10:45
It's been a while, gents. Who's your current go-to lady for a good firm massage with a decent HE?

MickeyMic
09-13-17, 08:00
They're back. Says new management and when I went, Sarah wasn't there. Pulled a mid-40's-ish woman. Massage was odd but ending was nice. They've built a wall inside the door. You have to walk in then ring a buzzer.

PilotPete
09-13-17, 11:16
I made the mistake of booking with this lady at $150 hr. Even though she shows a massage table she operates out of a motel near the airport on a bed. She is an AA, has a nice figure with excellent C+ to D boobs and a lot of tats. Mutual touch allowed but her positioning appears to purposely makes access to her boobs rare.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/hannah-black-call-to-relax/46343403

Some skill with loosening back muscles but zero tease with a flip at 15 minutes. Then straight for the johnson who was not impressed. HJ was very mechanical and rapid even before I was at full attention and when I asked her to slow down. Asking me if I am close is always a buzkill and that is her MO.

She claims to have many repeat clients so, clearly, YMMV, but I gave up and left with no joy at 30 minutes as it felt as sexy as a medical procedure. Will not repeat.

Derppy
09-13-17, 12:20
Highly recommend Nean Moon. Been there 2 times and had Sarah. She does an incredible back walk if you're into that sort of thing.

S Miami Blvd. Apt110.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/all-new-grand-open-in-durham-nean-moon-spa-919-251-8101-s/34622434

That location seems to be missing from JJ's list for some reason. Needs to be added back.

XHippie
09-13-17, 19:28
I made the mistake of booking with this lady at $150 hr. Even though she shows a massage table she operates out of a motel near the airport on a bed. She is an AA, has a nice figure with excellent C+ to D boobs and a lot of tats. Mutual touch allowed but her positioning appears to purposely makes access to her boobs rare.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/hannah-black-call-to-relax/46343403

Some skill with loosening back muscles but zero tease with a flip at 15 minutes. Then straight for the johnson who was not impressed. HJ was very mechanical and rapid even before I was at full attention and when I asked her to slow down. Asking me if I am close is always a buzkill and that is her MO.

She claims to have many repeat clients so, clearly, YMMV, but I gave up and left with no joy at 30 minutes as it felt as sexy as a medical procedure. Will not repeat.Sorry you ended up TOFTT but its reports like this that expose these girls that think just because they have a cell phone to post a ad and a room we will rush to them. Good post!

MythMan2010
09-14-17, 12:04
Highly recommend Nean Moon. Been there 2 times and had Sarah. She does an incredible back walk if you're into that sort of thing.

S Miami Blvd. Apt110.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/all-new-grand-open-in-durham-nean-moon-spa-919-251-8101-s/34622434

That location seems to be missing from JJ's list for some reason. Needs to be added back.I thought it was on the list. It's in the shops behind Sheetz before you get into the heart of RTP corporate.

I drew another lady and while older she's does an fantastic job with the massage and back walk. She uses some accupressure which can be painful but that's how she breaks up the tissue which I love.

Good finish as you would expect.

TheShredSter66
09-16-17, 23:05
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-asian-massa-health-the-best-place-and-best-massage/33432466

Saw this ad up. Going to have to go scope it out. Has this been a thing in the past?

Derppy
09-17-17, 09:48
I thought it was on the list. It's in the shops behind Sheetz before you get into the heart of RTP corporate.

I drew another lady and while older she's does an fantastic job with the massage and back walk. She uses some accupressure which can be painful but that's how she breaks up the tissue which I love.

Good finish as you would expect.Saw the woman named 'Happy' at Nean yesterday. Might have been the one you had. She's a bit bigger than Sarah, so she packs more of a punch with the back walk. She's def trained and knows what she's doing. Intense massage. Will repeat!

WtPckMe
09-17-17, 10:55
It's been there before but has been closed a while. Looks like someone is reopening it now and branding it as Korean girls this time. Was not bad before it closed as the had some attractive 20 somethings from time to time. Once when it was slow the mamasan came in with the younger girl and gave a double massage. Will have to see how this new reopening is.


http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-asian-massa-health-the-best-place-and-best-massage/33432466

Saw this ad up. Going to have to go scope it out. Has this been a thing in the past?

Vjjakob
09-17-17, 19:56
I live east of Raleigh, and doesn't seem like there are many postings for locations out that way. Meeting in RTP finished early, and decided to stop by Rainbow (0050 on JJs list) on the way home. Got there about 6 and place was completely locked up. Since I was already in the mode, moved over to Zen (0051 on JJs list) as it is only about 2 blocks away. Nice place. No one was really working the front, but someone comes out when the door chimes. Can't say if there is a "mamasan" or not. Person who greeted me was in mid 30's and attractive (7). Standard routine to start. Table shower was thorough and complete, with some light teasing. Proceeded to massage which was good. Not the best I've had, but far from the worst. Seems like every provider has her own routine, and it's always an adventure the first time with anyone to see what it will be. I would say this was a bit more unusual in that there was much more attention to upper neck and scalp than has been typical (at least for me). Proceeded to shoulders, back, gluts, arms, with some occasional brushing enough to indicate that there was a decent comfort level. Finished the back with a nice light back scratch, and then onto the flip. No haggles, no discussions, simply straight onto continuing the massage and relieving any remaining stiffness. Fees were as advertised (. 7/ hr). Didn't push for roaming or anything else, as it was my first time there, and let provider set the pace and direction. Tipped. 4.

Place is nice enough inside, fresh linens were used, good sturdy tables, etc, but as with some other places that have been reviewed here, walls do not go all the way up, so there are limits to privacy. Don't know how many others were there, but there was at least one other provider, as she and mine would occasionally semi-shout / converse with each other through the walls. All in all a good experience, except for the comic relief of the occasional shout back and forth. Attractive provider, effective massage, friendly approach to all aspects of the visit. I left happy with the decision to stop in, and would repeat.

VJ.

XHippie
09-17-17, 20:17
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-asian-massa-health-the-best-place-and-best-massage/33432466

Saw this ad up. Going to have to go scope it out. Has this been a thing in the past?The previous place fit a familiar profile that involves an American with his fingers in the business. It starts out as legit sort of, not known as a HE establishment. Then they realize real quick they need to hire a girl or girls that delivers so the bills can get paid. I actually went there 3 times in about a 8 month period and there was always a different face. Remember Lotus on Falls of Neuse same profile. Yes there are some places that actually open with these intentions but reality hits. The lady that ran this place was actually a really nice person but this is a tough business and that location only caters to folks in that area. It's not the RTP traffic. Quite frankly with the Massage license requirement thing I'm surprised to see any new place open. I wish them luck and good for the guys that live and work in that area.

SdevDuke8
09-19-17, 19:24
JJ's list lists it as difficult. Is it actually a AMP?

Or is it normal massage business where someone had received a HJ from the owner once?

It says the owner is licensed and seemed pretty up and up. What's your experience?

XHippie
09-19-17, 23:19
JJ's list lists it as difficult. Is it actually a AMP?

Or is it normal massage business where someone had received a HJ from the owner once?

It says the owner is licensed and seemed pretty up and up. What's your experience?Michelle is the owner she advertises on Craigslist not backpage, her ad says something like bye bye pain. She probably has a helper since she added on more rooms but not sure it's been a little while since I've been there. Yes she is a licensed masseuse. I would say 99% of her customers receive only a massage but never say never. It's a relaxing environment and she give a decent massage with no tease. The first thing you may notice when you walk in is a funky smell of incense. She stays pretty busy I think she has a lot of regulars. Michelle has been around the business for awhile. If you are looking for a jack shack this ain't it.

Livinitinva
09-19-17, 23:19
Both the Rating and the advertisement would indicate that anything unprofessional is unlikely.

Not all AMPs offer "Extras". Ocean would be one that does not. But never say never.

But the reason to go there is for folks who priority one is a quality Asian massage.

The massage quality at such places will normally blow the doors of Massage Envy and most other boutique massage places.


JJ's list lists it as difficult. Is it actually a AMP?

Or is it normal massage business where someone had received a HJ from the owner once?

It says the owner is licensed and seemed pretty up and up. What's your experience?

NylonFootSniff
09-19-17, 23:27
I visited Michelle many times. Has been a while since my last trip. First trip was massage only. Second time and every time after I left happy. I complimented her about her feet and nail Polish and asked if she would use them on me. To my delight she did!

Had many interesting visits with her, she even said yes when I requested her to wear hose!

Dirk63
09-20-17, 09:54
JJ's list lists it as difficult. Is it actually a AMP?

Or is it normal massage business where someone had received a HJ from the owner once?

It says the owner is licensed and seemed pretty up and up. What's your experience?I've been going there for a long time, Michelle is strictly legit in my experience. I think she has enough business from regulars that come for an outstanding massage that she does ok without offering extras. I will say that in terms of value for the money, there have been enough disappointments for the usual rub and tug places that I have often wished I'd spent the money on a massage from her and gave myself the happy ending at home.

She's a really good person, and her massage is definitely the best. If you're willing to skip the HE and just get into the massage, it's worth every penny.

PilotPete
09-20-17, 22:38
This place was on my list to try and I TOFTT. I do not recommend.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/‿-relaxation-asia-remedy-opening-now-919-206-1555-hwy40-exit-278/20994530.

$70 for the hour, declined table shower. Pretty good brief back massage and then some less than enthusiastic tease. On the flip (early since not much good was happening) the upsell started. I had already tipped $50 as is my custom going in. This usually results in a MT experience with HE especially since I'm typically out the door in 35-40 minutes, and I think the net payout is fair.

30 ish Asian in good shape with C cups wanted $100 more to take her top off. "you have more money in wallet" doesn't work for me. Mercenary bullshit that is a complete turn off. Worse is that her HJ technique was poor while asking if I was close. Very mechanical. Will not repeat.

I have reached the conclusion that this is just not a great town for providers of FBSM. Some places are, some aren't. Not impressed with the half dozen MP's I've visited and most of the independents don't even own a table. Fortunately there are at least a couple good ones. Can't win them all.

XHippie
09-21-17, 00:18
This place was on my list to try and I TOFTT. I do not recommend.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/‿-relaxation-asia-remedy-opening-now-919-206-1555-hwy40-exit-278/20994530.

$70 for the hour, declined table shower. Pretty good brief back massage and then some less than enthusiastic tease. On the flip (early since not much good was happening) the upsell started. I had already tipped $50 as is my custom going in. This usually results in a MT experience with HE especially since I'm typically out the door in 35-40 minutes, and I think the net payout is fair.

30 ish Asian in good shape with C cups wanted $100 more to take her top off. "you have more money in wallet" doesn't work for me. Mercenary bullshit that is a complete turn off. Worse is that her HJ technique was poor while asking if I was close. Very mechanical. Will not repeat.

I have reached the conclusion that this is just not a great town for providers of FBSM. Some places are, some aren't. Not impressed with the half dozen MP's I've visited and most of the independents don't even own a table. Fortunately there are at least a couple good ones. Can't win them all.Amateur Owners hiring Amateur Workers offering Amateur service and cocky enough to ask for Premium tips. Ain't going to happen! Ain't going to survive!

HotMassage
09-21-17, 10:41
It's been there before but has been closed a while. Looks like someone is reopening it now and branding it as Korean girls this time. Was not bad before it closed as the had some attractive 20 somethings from time to time. Once when it was slow the mamasan came in with the younger girl and gave a double massage. Will have to see how this new reopening is.LOL, that was actually two massage girls trying to get extra tips by having the customer pay the house fee for one girl. Now new ownership and two working girls. One is Korean, ok looks, relaxing massage and the finish you would expect.

Pubb69
09-21-17, 14:34
Amateur Owners hiring Amateur Workers offering Amateur service and cocky enough to ask for Premium tips. Ain't going to happen! Ain't going to survive!The place is horrible lately, they are risking getting shut down with their obnoxious behavior and greed.

AGoodThing2
09-21-17, 19:13
Hey Mongers.

P. 0005) Yucca Salon 124 SW Maynard Road, # A Cary. NC 27511 (919) 741-4072.

Hit Yucca other night. Sara in the house. Firm full body massage. Then sensual 2 hands for tease.

Flipped lead to more sensual 2 hands on extremities, then body, then around genitalia. Soft touch balls. Up and down shaft for exqusite HJ.

HE. Used lotion all over. Warm towel clean ups.

Thanks for the lead.

AGT2.

Old Sparky
09-23-17, 10:24
Recently I noticed the one in Clayton had reopened advertising Korean ladies so I had to try it. I went early in the morning as a walk- in and was greeted by an Asian lady in a dress. Decent middle aged looking but I have no idea if she was Korean. She was built a little wider than the ladies at Nana if that helps. Paid for an hour and when the lady returned she had changed into a short skirt, tight top and no hose. She gave a pretty good massage but the movements were short and sharp- not the long flowing strokes that I'm used to. Felt pretty good and then she climbed on the table and sat down on me so she good work my back harder. She had a nice tight grip with those bare legs but it didn't feel like smooth panties and her butt wasn't bare so my curiosity was up. A little teasing to judge my reaction and things started looking interesting. Hot towels before the flip- no paper towels!

On the flip, she used oil so I was rubbing around OTC and worked my way under the skirt. Imagine my dismay as I realized she was wearing one of those abominations called a "skort"! That damn thing that looks like a skirt but has short pants down inside it made out of some thick material. I looked up and she was smiling- she knew that my roaming had just been limited. After a bit more OTC I lightly tugged on the "skorts" waistband and she shifted her stance and said "outside". I got the message and enjoyed the rest of the massage and was happy. Another hot towel cleanup, followed by a head, chest, scalp massage which gave me my full hour.

I'll be going back because overall the experience was good and she seemed to enjoy herself on the flip (maybe because she noticed my reaction to the "skort"). 7 hr and. 6 tip.

XHippie
09-24-17, 07:22
Recently I noticed the one in Clayton had reopened advertising Korean ladies so I had to try it. I went early in the morning as a walk- in and was greeted by an Asian lady in a dress. Decent middle aged looking but I have no idea if she was Korean. She was built a little wider than the ladies at Nana if that helps. Paid for an hour and when the lady returned she had changed into a short skirt, tight top and no hose. She gave a pretty good massage but the movements were short and sharp- not the long flowing strokes that I'm used to. Felt pretty good and then she climbed on the table and sat down on me so she good work my back harder. She had a nice tight grip with those bare legs but it didn't feel like smooth panties and her butt wasn't bare so my curiosity was up. A little teasing to judge my reaction and things started looking interesting. Hot towels before the flip- no paper towels!

On the flip, she used oil so I was rubbing around OTC and worked my way under the skirt. Imagine my dismay as I realized she was wearing one of those abominations called a "skort"! That damn thing that looks like a skirt but has short pants down inside it made out of some thick material. I looked up and she was smiling- she knew that my roaming had just been limited. After a bit more OTC I lightly tugged on the "skorts" waistband and she shifted her stance and said "outside". I got the message and enjoyed the rest of the massage and was happy. Another hot towel cleanup, followed by a head, chest, scalp massage which gave me my full hour.

I'll be going back because overall the experience was good and she seemed to enjoy herself on the flip (maybe because she noticed my reaction to the "skort"). 7 hr and. 6 tip.There's nothing wrong with the girl wearing skorts if you just want a tug and no roaming, But really? If you are jacking a mans dick for cash and he cums on your hand haven't you lowered the bar on your self esteem a little? Is it any further stretch to let him touch a Bush or a tit? Isn't Scorts kind of a bait and switch on their part? It invites you to the party but there is no party. I have reacted two ways in the past when that happened I just let her do her thing give me a tug. And I have also rebelled and told her OH you are wearing that damn thing, JUST MASSAGE and stayed silent and no touching her the rest of the session and no reaction to her tease. If she ask do you want a HJ I point to her scort and say NO you are here just for the massage no thank you. She just got hit with the message this will be a minimum tip customer and not a happy customer. It really depends if she had a "gotcha smirk" on her face and what my mood is. I fully understand it's her right to protect herself from excessive roaming but she has to understand the meaning of "you get what you Tip for". And if you don't want the customer to reach under the dress don't wear a fucking dress to the party.

Mag8600
09-25-17, 14:56
I've recently noticed that 0017 (Canaan Massage on Creedmoor) is open once again. Kind of surprised given the high visibility around its forced closing a few months back. Haven't tried it, and don't plan to. I didn't leave happy before their troubles, and don't know why it would be any different now. However, an FYI for everyone else.

Kurt309
09-25-17, 15:40
Hit Yucca and drew Sara. Cute, very petite with long hair. She was nice decent english. Pretty good massage before flip. A little pre flip tease. Flip and not much otc roaming and no utc. Decent finish. Clean up and had 15 minutes left, water offered. Lots of mention for me to come back. But don't get nothing but a standard finish is available. Probabl a no return for me.

Bg7880
09-26-17, 14:00
Be careful out there, had a wake county sheriff come pay a visit because they saw my vehicle leaving there. They're investigating human trafficking. Multiple AMP's are being watched apparently.

JoeWeezer
09-26-17, 15:39
Be careful out there, had a wake county sheriff come pay a visit because they saw my vehicle leaving there. They're investigating human trafficking. Multiple AMP's are being watched apparently."Pay a visit"? Does this mean they came to your home? Traffic stop?

Bg7880
09-26-17, 15:56
"Pay a visit"? Does this mean they came to your home? Traffic stop?To my home.

XHippie
09-26-17, 21:50
Be careful out there, had a wake county sheriff come pay a visit because they saw my vehicle leaving there. They're investigating human trafficking. Multiple AMP's are being watched apparently.Ok here's the scenario: a guy walks into a AMP for a short period of time then leaves no law has been broken. Let's say LE is outside watching the place, OK that's their right and maybe even their job. If they decide to stop you in the parking lot and ask what were you doing inside? Well duh it is a massage spa I was getting a massage. This same answer applies if they pull you over down the street or come to where you work or where you live. No different than somebody leaving Jiffy Lube and the cops asking what were you doing in there? Same answer it is a oil changing company they changed my oil. Now if you went into Jiffy Lube to sell or buy some drugs AND GOT CAUGHT by LE or you went into a AMP and PAID FOR SEXUAL CONTACT and GOT CAUGHT and the key phrase is GOT CAUGHT then the law was broken. So LE, the IRS, FBI the fucking Secret Servivce can WATCH all day just don't get caught exchanging cash for illegal activity. There is Paranoia and there's THE LAW. Will it freak someone out to get questioned of course. But in reality and legally if you didn't get caught in the act, they are fishing for info from someone that does not know the law or their rights in other words just fucking with you to see what they can get. If there's human trafficking or other shit in the store it's not the customer breaking the law it's the people in the stores problem. We all go into business's for whatever, a restaurant a mini mart whatever who knows it could be a front for drug smuggling. Back to the point a guy walks in a AMP then walks out he is just a customer by law. But maybe just maybe the uniform and blue lights in his face with questions will rattle him so he will talk a little. Don't fall for it, it is a shake down old trick by LE. Know the law & know your rights give a simple and honest answer the reason for your visit. So here some of us try to spend some quality time with AN ADULT that 99.9% of the time does not have a drug problem they are just trying to take care of themselves and family. Then there's the well educated white collar Anthony Weiner's of the world essentially getting a tap on the wrist, the judge would have buried one of our ass's. Bazar times we live in! Thank very much fellas I'll be giving another show at 10pm don't forget to tip your waitress.

Bg7880
09-27-17, 06:02
We all already know the scenereo here. The point is the le came to my house because of an ongoing investigation. I knew I was in no trouble and couldn't be charged with anything. The point is they came to my home. I live alone so it's no big deal. A man with a. Wife and children may be a different story. (Having to explain his actions to his wife) ramble on about facts we all already know is fine but get the point of my post. A simple alert to people here who's life may be affected by police knocking on their door because they visited a AMP. C


Ok here's the scenario: a guy walks into a AMP for a short period of time then leaves no law has been broken. Let's say LE is outside watching the place, OK that's their right and maybe even their job. If they decide to stop you in the parking lot and ask what were you doing inside? Well duh it is a massage spa I was getting a massage. This same answer applies if they pull you over down the street or come to where you work or where you live. No different than somebody leaving Jiffy Lube and the cops asking what were you doing in there? Same answer it is a oil changing company they changed my oil. Now if you went into Jiffy Lube to sell or buy some drugs AND GOT CAUGHT by LE or you went into a AMP and PAID FOR SEXUAL CONTACT and GOT CAUGHT and the key phrase is GOT CAUGHT then the law was broken. So LE, the IRS, FBI the fucking Secret Servivce can WATCH all day just don't get caught exchanging cash for illegal activity. There is Paranoia and there's THE LAW. Will it freak someone out to get questioned of course. But in reality and legally if you didn't get caught in the act, they are fishing for info from someone that does not know the law or their rights in other words just fucking with you to see what they can get. If there's human trafficking or other shit in the store it's not the customer breaking the law it's the people in the stores problem. We all go into business's for whatever, a restaurant a mini mart whatever who knows it could be a front for drug smuggling. Back to the point a guy walks in a AMP then walks out he is just a customer by law. But maybe just maybe the uniform and blue lights in his face with questions will rattle him so he will talk a little. Don't fall for it, it is a shake down old trick by LE. Know the law & know your rights give a simple and honest answer the reason for your visit. So here some of us try to spend some quality time with AN ADULT that 99.9% of the time does not have a drug problem they are just trying to take care of themselves and family. Then there's the well educated white collar Anthony Weiner's of the world essentially getting a tap on the wrist, the judge would have buried one of our ass's. Bazar times we live in! Thank very much fellas I'll be giving another show at 10pm don't forget to tip your waitress..

BinGoa123
09-27-17, 08:12
B. And hippie. Both your post were revelevant and helpful. Never heard of Le coming to anyone's house investigating AMPs. Very unusual but possible. As to hippies post, it's dead on. To much free info can be given because of black and white fever. There is a law concerning frequenting a "Bawdy House" but I have never seen that apply to customer. The "Trafficking" ruse is just that. A ruse to sensationalize an investigation and score publicity points. Thanks guys for the post.

XHippie
09-27-17, 08:57
We all already know the scenereo here. The point is the le came to my house because of an ongoing investigation. I knew I was in no trouble and couldn't be charged with anything. The point is they came to my home. I live alone so it's no big deal. A man with a. Wife and children may be a different story. (Having to explain his actions to his wife) ramble on about facts we all already know is fine but get the point of my post. A simple alert to people here who's life may be affected by police knocking on their door because they visited a AMP. C

.The same scenario answers would apply to the wife and kids that applied to LE. If the wife ask why were you at that Massage Parlor and why are the cops knocking on our door? Same answer hell I don't know why they are here I was just getting a massage. A MASSAGE? AT A MASSAGE PARLOR? HOW COULD YOU? Now if the Hot Point is getting caught by the wife then this is not a Legal or Illegal topic it's a total different subject of getting into trouble with your spouse instead of LE. Your post stated "be careful there is law enforcement lurking" which was my take on your post, true but be careful and don't get busted by your better half which is a whole new set of legal issues for some especially with kids below the age of 18. I would think LE actually showing up at a persons place of work or home is extreme and rare. You are more likely to get questioned in the store, the parking lot or pulled over down the street.

MicSteele
09-27-17, 13:51
B. And hippie. Both your post were revelevant and helpful. Never heard of Le coming to anyone's house investigating AMPs. Very unusual but possible. As to hippies post, it's dead on. To much free info can be given because of black and white fever. There is a law concerning frequenting a "Bawdy House" but I have never seen that apply to customer. The "Trafficking" ruse is just that. A ruse to sensationalize an investigation and score publicity points. Thanks guys for the post.- hopefully someone schooled in the art of legal jargon can / will chime in on this, shedding some light on the actions of the LEOs. I am sure they are well aware that they are not going to get any incriminating any info off of anyone but, the mere fact that they go to your home and ask you, which could bring up the other real issues with possible family members. Yeah, I think they knew / know what they are doing and since they can't bust anyone they figure they would just drop dimes as much as they can on everyones family which would probably cause that male household member not being able to go and enjoy massages anymore. Not the exact affect they are looking for but they can get almost the same affect but trying to "bust out" guys to their family members. If anyone ever showed up on my door step, I would close the door, go outside to talk, once they started asking about the massage parlor, I'd be like, am I under arrest? Do you have a warrant? Get off my property and don't come back. The other thing I would do is to post it immediately under a new profile, listing the situation, LEO names, vehicle desription, etc, as much as I could to help all the other brothers out. I am pretty sure this tactic of the cops could be labeled / found as a "Harassment" style accusation. IDK but I would like to hear from some legal smart guys.

XHippie
09-27-17, 14:13
- hopefully someone schooled in the art of legal jargon can / will chime in on this, shedding some light on the actions of the LEOs. I am sure they are well aware that they are not going to get any incriminating any info off of anyone but, the mere fact that they go to your home and ask you, which could bring up the other real issues with possible family members. Yeah, I think they knew / know what they are doing and since they can't bust anyone they figure they would just drop dimes as much as they can on everyones family which would probably cause that male household member not being able to go and enjoy massages anymore. Not the exact affect they are looking for but they can get almost the same affect but trying to "bust out" guys to their family members. If anyone ever showed up on my door step, I would close the door, go outside to talk, once they started asking about the massage parlor, I'd be like, am I under arrest? Do you have a warrant? Get off my property and don't come back. The other thing I would do is to post it immediately under a new profile, listing the situation, LEO names, vehicle desription, etc, as much as I could to help all the other brothers out. I am pretty sure this tactic of the cops could be labeled / found as a "Harassment" style accusation. IDK but I would like to hear from some legal smart guys.I agree would be nice to hear from a lawyer on the board and I know there's one here. Listen it's kind of common sense if law enforcement comes to your house asking questions without probable cause that is the definition of harassment. Anytime LE ask someone questions it's usually because they have a direct connection between you and the crime committed. Let's say a store gets robbed and you just happened to be on the surveillance camera going in the store just walking around not buying anything, casing the store? Or a customer didn't see what he wanted? LE needs to check you out. Coming out of a massage store or any other business that is under investigation for some reason they have no right to question you. Many business's are under investigation with customers coming and going Wells Fargo being the biggest! You are simply a customer! And if a crime has been committed then they have already got their criminal. Why because you have to get "caught" for it to be a crime. Suspicion and getting Caught are two different animals. Very hard to connect a massage customer if he wasn't part of the bust. Again questioning someone that is not part of a suspected crime or illegal activity is treading on the harassment line.