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John Whitman
05-15-17, 12:39
Seen her. As I recall it was a nice massage and I left happy. Didn't get the impression that there was a full menu.


Anyone visited this lady? http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensual-massage-with-professional-table-located-in-private-residence-near-rtp-durham/34484509.

Thanks.

Jmn69
05-15-17, 12:49
I'm here all over the Raleigh area for a couple weeks and I'm looking for a nice looking legit massage. I've searched the forum and found reference to several but with old ads that don't pop up. I see the list of spas where to have fun but does anyone have a suggestion or two of a lady that has good massage skills. Easy on the eyes and even a little tease is good too but really need a good massage.

Bonneville
05-15-17, 17:05
I'm here all over the Raleigh area for a couple weeks and I'm looking for a nice looking legit massage. I've searched the forum and found reference to several but with old ads that don't pop up. I see the list of spas where to have fun but does anyone have a suggestion or two of a lady that has good massage skills. Easy on the eyes and even a little tease is good too but really need a good massage.When I want a good 90 minute legit massage I go to see Lily at Healthy Foot Spa in Knightdale. 1001-C Widewaters Pkwy in the plaza behind Buffalo Wild Wings and Discount Tire. She is not a looker, in shape, very nice and very good skills IMHO. There will be no tease and there is nothing else on the menu top my knowledge though. Have not been there in a couple of weeks.

Jimjim77
05-15-17, 23:03
You will usually get a great massage, nothing more at 0015 or 0031.


I'm here all over the Raleigh area for a couple weeks and I'm looking for a nice looking legit massage. I've searched the forum and found reference to several but with old ads that don't pop up. I see the list of spas where to have fun but does anyone have a suggestion or two of a lady that has good massage skills. Easy on the eyes and even a little tease is good too but really need a good massage.

RubaDubdub01
05-15-17, 23:10
Knightdale worth still visiting? I haven't been to anything in either of those areas for awhile. I have some time tomorrow and was thinking of stopping by if there is anything still worth a visit. Feel free to PM if preferred.

XHippie
05-16-17, 03:57
I'm here all over the Raleigh area for a couple weeks and I'm looking for a nice looking legit massage. I've searched the forum and found reference to several but with old ads that don't pop up. I see the list of spas where to have fun but does anyone have a suggestion or two of a lady that has good massage skills. Easy on the eyes and even a little tease is good too but really need a good massage.0019 Falls of Neuse Rd. Papa SAN is always there but he's harmless he's a nice guy. The walls do not go to the ceiling so if their busy you can hear other people entering the business, talking etc.. but it's not that bad. Also just across the street 6400 Falls Of Neuse "Ocean Spa" Several business's in this same building easy to miss if you've never been there. Walk up the steps door to the right down the hall way. Small, quiet and clean has private rooms. Not sure about any help working there but Michelle the owner gives a decent massage. Both places are Chinese and totally legit based on my visits. Both places are reasonably priced, each charge $58 for one hour if my memory is correct.

Shamrock7
05-16-17, 08:33
Last few times I've been by there no sign and doorbell removed.

Sobe69
05-16-17, 11:14
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/6132567855.html Only does deep tissue.


I'm here all over the Raleigh area for a couple weeks and I'm looking for a nice looking legit massage. I've searched the forum and found reference to several but with old ads that don't pop up. I see the list of spas where to have fun but does anyone have a suggestion or two of a lady that has good massage skills. Easy on the eyes and even a little tease is good too but really need a good massage.

SmithDog
05-16-17, 12:00
This will probably be my last report. Backpage has since been altered due to illegal gov't action, my go-to provider, Marcie, has long since retired, and the current crop of providers want too much $$$ and think they are worth it. Also, this scene is growing tiresome for me and there is more to life. But before I leave I want to place a report on a really nice lady that I visited with today. In many ways she is a lot like my Marcie. At first I thought she was really paranoid about having me wash my hands with anti-bacterial soap. I now understand her reasoning and I really don't blame her. Would you want to be grappled with hands you don't know where its been? The link to her BP is listed below. She's not a spinner, she's not a 20 something either but she is attractive and has a pleasing personality, and all her parts are "real. " She has nice, real curves. So if you're looking for a nice, FBSM, go see her. Take care everyone and be careful out there!

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensual-massage-with-professional-table-located-in-private-residence-near-rtp-durham/34484509

Rdudreaming
05-16-17, 14:18
This will probably be my last report. Backpage has since been altered due to illegal gov't action, my go-to provider, Marcie, has long since retired, and the current crop of providers want too much $$$ and think they are worth it. Also, this scene is growing tiresome for me and there is more to life. But before I leave I want to place a report on a really nice lady that I visited with today. In many ways she is a lot like my Marcie. At first I thought she was really paranoid about having me wash my hands with anti-bacterial soap. I now understand her reasoning and I really don't blame her. Would you want to be grappled with hands you don't know where its been? The link to her BP is listed below. She's not a spinner, she's not a 20 something either but she is attractive and has a pleasing personality, and all her parts are "real. " She has nice, real curves. So if you're looking for a nice, FBSM, go see her. Take care everyone and be careful out there!

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensual-massage-with-professional-table-located-in-private-residence-near-rtp-durham/34484509Well said, I fully concur!

LarryLeisure
05-16-17, 19:17
Last few times I've been by there no sign and doorbell removed.I think it's permanently closed. It's too bad because it was a pretty good place.

XHippie
05-16-17, 19:57
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/6132567855.html Only does deep tissue.Oh man I forgot all about those titties. This girl could be raking it in if she had about 10 or 15 regulars that would not blow her cover. Part time could easily pull in what I wished I made. Must be doing something right she's still around. Light is dim by candle light both bodies hot sweaty, smell of pussy in the air and throbbing body parts making contact, hummmmm. Oh my I would love to tittle fuck that just once. Oh sorry fella's I drifted off there for a second. Nice picture, I'm sure she's a nice girl and gives a great massage.

NCHobbyist69
05-17-17, 08:21
Oh man I forgot all about those titties. This girl could be raking it in if she had about 10 or 15 regulars that would not blow her cover. Part time could easily pull in what I wished I made. Must be doing something right she's still around. Light is dim by candle light both bodies hot sweaty, smell of pussy in the air and throbbing body parts making contact, hummmmm. Oh my I would love to tittle fuck that just once. Oh sorry fella's I drifted off there for a second. Nice picture, I'm sure she's a nice girl and gives a great massage.I saw this girl when she was doing massages out of her home. Legit solid massage, but those short shorts and cleavage shirts she wore to keep guys coming back were just outrageous! Again, absolutely no hope of ANYTHING other than a massage with this one. That said, I caught her peeking under the towel a few times toward the end when she'd lift up my legs and stretch them. I always wondered if she would react well to a pitch but never tried.

XHippie
05-17-17, 20:41
I saw this girl when she was doing massages out of her home. Legit solid massage, but those short shorts and cleavage shirts she wore to keep guys coming back were just outrageous! Again, absolutely no hope of ANYTHING other than a massage with this one. That said, I caught her peeking under the towel a few times toward the end when she'd lift up my legs and stretch them. I always wondered if she would react well to a pitch but never tried.I remember when we were all chatting about her awhile back at least one guy if I remember correct did make a request from her for a little extra and her reaction was a FIRM AND FURIOUS, How Dare You Ask For That (which being the country boy that I am) means HELL NO! I'm sure she has the same strict policy. Still, I'd cum on her tits, she's just got that college nymph nasty girl look that could DT a cock. Oops better be carful her boyfriend might be reading the forum.

TarHeel90
05-17-17, 22:30
Hey guys, I see all the reports on Genny all the time. Does she have any ads on BP? Or any info on how to get in touch with her? PM me for any details. Thanks.

Sobe69
05-18-17, 12:34
LOL I saw her at the house a few times as well. I was trying to be a regular but those massages were just too painful for me! More like BDSM she has some very strong hands! I did discuss her marketing ploy and told her she needed to cover up when I saw her so I could relax LOL she just laughed. She has a real life back story that involves kids and a hubby or BF. She would be a good starting point then off to a QV to finish off.


I saw this girl when she was doing massages out of her home. Legit solid massage, but those short shorts and cleavage shirts she wore to keep guys coming back were just outrageous! Again, absolutely no hope of ANYTHING other than a massage with this one. That said, I caught her peeking under the towel a few times toward the end when she'd lift up my legs and stretch them. I always wondered if she would react well to a pitch but never tried.

XHippie
05-18-17, 13:56
Seasoned guys know this but for the newbies to the AMP scene these are a few things to look for. Just works for me!

1 Greets me and wow she looks better than I was expecting.

2 holds my hand to the room.

3 strokes my body when she enters the room.

4 squats and introduces herself or a light kiss and says thanks for coming again.

5 gives a good massage along with other fun things.

6 sits on my ass when massaging my back

7 crawls on my back.

8 leans in pressing her crotch on my hand.

9 press's tits wherever whenever possible.

10 generally SHE is doing all the erotic touching not making me chase her.

11 likes to kiss my body parts, lips, neck, nipples, back.

12 does not flinch if I try to unsnap / unzip her jeans in fact she helps.

13 has a thong or no panties.

14 is wet and ready (mercy me).

15 if she only does a HJ it's incredible and she stays with it no matter how long it takes.

16 surprises me by inviting a friend into the room to join us (Always carry a little extra tip money you never know).

17 she never haggles or counts the tip.

18 helps me get dressed.

19 offers her phone number for after hours fun.

20 big smile, hug and kind warm feeling on my way out (leave on a positive note).

And as hard as it is to believe, yes there are girls out there like this. I can remember at least 2 sadly no longer in this area. But there are seasoned girls out there that know what buttons to push on us to keep us coming back. Then there are also newbie providers / not what I'm getting paid for providing the minimum. Good luck finding that diamond.

TheSting24
05-18-17, 17:34
I agree with every point you stated, could not have said it better myself.

In this market, this would be so rare, it would have to be the perfect world.

The landscape has changed dramatically around here. Sure, you can get jacked.

But all those nice, pleasant, sensual things are gone.

TS.


Seasoned guys know this but for the newbies to the AMP scene these are a few things to look for. Just works for me!

1 Greets me and wow she looks better than I was expecting.

2 holds my hand to the room.

3 strokes my body when she enters the room.

4 squats and introduces herself or a light kiss and says thanks for coming again.

5 gives a good massage along with other fun things.

6 sits on my ass when massaging my back

7 crawls on my back.

8 leans in pressing her crotch on my hand.

9 press's tits wherever whenever possible.

10 generally SHE is doing all the erotic touching not making me chase her.

11 likes to kiss my body parts, lips, neck, nipples, back.

12 does not flinch if I try to unsnap / unzip her jeans in fact she helps.

13 has a thong or no panties.

14 is wet and ready (mercy me).

15 if she only does a HJ it's incredible and she stays with it no matter how long it takes.

16 surprises me by inviting a friend into the room to join us (Always carry a little extra tip money you never know).

17 she never haggles or counts the tip.

18 helps me get dressed.

19 offers her phone number for after hours fun.

20 big smile, hug and kind warm feeling on my way out (leave on a positive note).

And as hard as it is to believe, yes there are girls out there like this. I can remember at least 2 sadly no longer in this area. But there are seasoned girls out there that know what buttons to push on us to keep us coming back. Then there are also newbie providers / not what I'm getting paid for providing the minimum. Good luck finding that diamond.

XHippie
05-18-17, 21:11
I agree with every point you stated, could not have said it better myself.

In this market, this would be so rare, it would have to be the perfect world.

The landscape has changed dramatically around here. Sure, you can get jacked.

But all those nice, pleasant, sensual things are gone.

TS.Oh hell yea to receive all 20 that I listed, almost impossible. But I just wanted to list for the newbies as Kenny Chesney says in a song "the good stuff". These days if you can manage at least 3 of these it's a good day. YMMV Indeed!

Jimjim77
05-18-17, 21:49
There are still a couple of good ones out there. As you all know I usually help everyone I can. On the two I've found, I'm keeping them to myself for a while. It's taken me too long and too much $ to find them. Also where you used to get the royal treatment on the first visit, it now takes some time and good tips to develope the relationship you want. Even the good Providors are cautious on the first visit or two. Closings, police, and just plain bad customers have made them very wary. Nothing like it used to be, but you can still develope a good relationship and get what you want if you work at it. Don't be afraid to ask for everything you want, but not on the first visit. Then hope they stay around for a while. Not like the good old days, but still possible.


Oh hell yea to receive all 20 that I listed, almost impossible. But I just wanted to list for the newbies as Kenny Chesney says in a song "the good stuff". These days if you can manage at least 3 of these it's a good day. YMMV Indeed!

Sobe69
05-19-17, 11:20
Anyone tried this oone out before.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/just-what-you-need/35764223

jobobtheclown
05-20-17, 11:34
There are still a couple of good ones out there. As you all know I usually help everyone I can. On the two I've found, I'm keeping them to myself for a while. It's taken me too long and too much $ to find them. Also where you used to get the royal treatment on the first visit, it now takes some time and good tips to develope the relationship you want. Even the good Providors are cautious on the first visit or two. Closings, police, and just plain bad customers have made them very wary. Nothing like it used to be, but you can still develope a good relationship and get what you want if you work at it. Don't be afraid to ask for everything you want, but not on the first visit. Then hope they stay around for a while. Not like the good old days, but still possible.I've got to ask: how many PMs begging for specifics did that post kick off?

Tomas247
05-20-17, 12:26
That would be incredible. My girl cancelled on me today, so I'm thinking about hitting the local AMP up. It won't be anything like this though.


Seasoned guys know this but for the newbies to the AMP scene these are a few things to look for. Just works for me!

1 Greets me and wow she looks better than I was expecting.

2 holds my hand to the room.

3 strokes my body when she enters the room.

4 squats and introduces herself or a light kiss and says thanks for coming again.

5 gives a good massage along with other fun things.

6 sits on my ass when massaging my back

7 crawls on my back.

8 leans in pressing her crotch on my hand.

9 press's tits wherever whenever possible.

10 generally SHE is doing all the erotic touching not making me chase her.

11 likes to kiss my body parts, lips, neck, nipples, back.

12 does not flinch if I try to unsnap / unzip her jeans in fact she helps.

13 has a thong or no panties.

14 is wet and ready (mercy me).

15 if she only does a HJ it's incredible and she stays with it no matter how long it takes.

16 surprises me by inviting a friend into the room to join us (Always carry a little extra tip money you never know).

17 she never haggles or counts the tip.

18 helps me get dressed.

19 offers her phone number for after hours fun.

20 big smile, hug and kind warm feeling on my way out (leave on a positive note).

And as hard as it is to believe, yes there are girls out there like this. I can remember at least 2 sadly no longer in this area. But there are seasoned girls out there that know what buttons to push on us to keep us coming back. Then there are also newbie providers / not what I'm getting paid for providing the minimum. Good luck finding that diamond.

JoeyJ35
05-20-17, 13:25
Wanted to check if T&W Oriental Spa is still open. Any recent visitors?

Bg7880
05-20-17, 18:35
Wanted to check if T&W Oriental Spa is still open. Any recent visitors?I was there a couple months ago. Pretty decent massage from a older fairly attractive lady (I'm a fan of older woman) allows roaming with pretty good finish. Not the greatest I've had but well worth the cost. It's my go to place do to being close to home. And always left happy.

Jimjim77
05-20-17, 18:46
Not as many as you think. LOL. Trusted seniors know I always answer them.


I've got to ask: how many PMs begging for specifics did that post kick off?

PolarProducer
05-22-17, 09:59
Hey everyone,

I'm doing a job near VIP Spa today, so I wanted to check it out after I finish. I've already visited Rainbow In Kdale a couple times and left happy each time, but I'm still a complete novice at this hobby. Any tips to help make my experience go smoothly? What should I expect considering it's my first visit at this location.

Thanks in advance.

ThomasGrandy
05-22-17, 10:12
Went on Friday afternoon. Ancient one behind counter. Middle aged woman did the work. Nice enough but kept the towel on 2/3 of my body at any time. I tried to ask her to remove it so she could have direct muscle contact but she only moved it a bit. Nothing available.

ThomasGrandy
05-22-17, 10:22
After the session at 0001 I was still feeling tight, so called up my current stand by, Nini.

She has a great technique, kind of a combination of deep massage, slow rub that really works on my stiff muscles.

She's chatty if you want, but quiet if you do not.

You do not leave stiff.

She only occasionally advertises but is available pretty often.

XHippie
05-22-17, 17:38
Hey everyone,

I'm doing a job near VIP Spa today, so I wanted to check it out after I finish. I've already visited Rainbow In Kdale a couple times and left happy each time, but I'm still a complete novice at this hobby. Any tips to help make my experience go smoothly? What should I expect considering it's my first visit at this location.

Thanks in advance.Like going to McDonald's for lunch.
Varied Menu, you get what you pay for. If you're real hungry bring $220, just a snack $120 should do it. Cash only!

FordDiesel250
05-23-17, 08:04
Like going to McDonald's for lunch.
Varied Menu, you get what you pay for. If you're real hungry bring $220, just a snack $120 should do it. Cash only!When asked if you have been there before say "yes" and when asked when just say it's been awhile, back when Sissy was there. Give the door fee of $80 to Mamma and leave tip on the table in the room, $100 clothes come off fast. Get undressed and your set.

MedJohnson
05-23-17, 13:08
Of the 20 recently. Still working on the digits. Got to put the time and $$ in but not that hard. You could add "cooks / warms up Asian food" and "has wine for after the visit for you both to enjoy" and "sends you home with leftovers" to the list.

Med.


Seasoned guys know this but for the newbies to the AMP scene these are a few things to look for. Just works for me!

1 Greets me and wow she looks better than I was expecting.

2 holds my hand to the room.

3 strokes my body when she enters the room.

4 squats and introduces herself or a light kiss and says thanks for coming again.

5 gives a good massage along with other fun things.

6 sits on my ass when massaging my back

7 crawls on my back.

8 leans in pressing her crotch on my hand.

9 press's tits wherever whenever possible.

10 generally SHE is doing all the erotic touching not making me chase her.

11 likes to kiss my body parts, lips, neck, nipples, back.

12 does not flinch if I try to unsnap / unzip her jeans in fact she helps.

13 has a thong or no panties.

14 is wet and ready (mercy me).

15 if she only does a HJ it's incredible and she stays with it no matter how long it takes.

16 surprises me by inviting a friend into the room to join us (Always carry a little extra tip money you never know).

17 she never haggles or counts the tip.

18 helps me get dressed.

19 offers her phone number for after hours fun.

20 big smile, hug and kind warm feeling on my way out (leave on a positive note).

And as hard as it is to believe, yes there are girls out there like this. I can remember at least 2 sadly no longer in this area. But there are seasoned girls out there that know what buttons to push on us to keep us coming back. Then there are also newbie providers / not what I'm getting paid for providing the minimum. Good luck finding that diamond.

XHippie
05-23-17, 18:59
Of the 20 recently. Still working on the digits. Got to put the time and $$ in but not that hard. You could add "cooks / warms up Asian food" and "has wine for after the visit for you both to enjoy" and "sends you home with leftovers" to the list.

Med.Yes it's like I said in my title "a few" of my favorite AMP pleasures I'm sure each guy has had way better experiences than my list. I'm thinking JJ has had a few 3 way's in some of those sweaty rooms were they made a JJ sandwich with him in the middle. Oh my did somebody talk? LOL. There are guys here that have way better connections with these AMP's than others. I'm still working at it. If you ever want to get your tally wag tortured, Take one of these girls to the beach for the weekend and treat her right, shopping, dinner, movie, dancing, walking on the beach. Nothing like bacon, eggs, coffee and tight pussy in bed for breakfast. I left that one off of the list.

LamberGinora
05-23-17, 21:37
"I kind of regret not trying to get a little extracurricular activity after the main even since it was so close to closing and there were definitely some signals of some type there. " (March 19).

"Paid for an hour massage and table shower and was done in 30 minutes. Did leave a little lighter, but then she wanted full tip. " (Feb. 1).

Table shower "was the most thorough I've ever had. She scrubbed every inch. And then some. Plenty of teasing. Definitely testing the waters to see how much I wanted. Massage was better than average, but not spectacular. Lots of teasing and a good bit of 'over the clothes' roaming. Flip time, she gives the motion, I say yes, she gives the 'shhh' sign. She goes to town, and I grab a handful. . Good times were had by all. " (Jan. 28).

"The massage was OK, and upon finish she advised that I self serve, to which I declined. I requested that she take care of that. We negotiated for a bit but she finally assisted, and I left happy. . I did see that they offer credit card payments, but I'm curious if anyone would actually use that to pay for this kind of service. " (Oct. 16).

"After about 40 minutes she asked if I wanted to flip over. There was no conversation, she just went to town. I grabbed her 'rear over the clothes', and she asked if I like it. " (Aug. 15).

Greensboro "AMPs are all nonerotic. Go to Burlington, or visit a bodyrub girl. " (June 9).

"I have never left 'the business' without a handshake, nor have I had to ask for it. You don't have to ask, just make sure you let them know you have been there plenty of times before. " (March 27,2016).

"Massage was one of the best that I have received here. On the flip, she went straight for the handshake and played with my 'rear' as she did. Allowed lots of hand roaming. I will be back for her as I think she offers some out-of-office visits as well. " (March 15,2016).

Interesting article http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20170429/police-take-aim-at-sex-trade.

Maybe the Raleigh write up is next? I like how they censored certain phrases we wrote haha.

TheSting24
05-24-17, 12:21
Good grief. Like the police don't have actual real crimes to solve? Pathetic.

S.


"I kind of regret not trying to get a little extracurricular activity after the main even since it was so close to closing and there were definitely some signals of some type there. " (March 19).

"Paid for an hour massage and table shower and was done in 30 minutes. Did leave a little lighter, but then she wanted full tip. " (Feb. 1).

Table shower "was the most thorough I've ever had. She scrubbed every inch. And then some. Plenty of teasing. Definitely testing the waters to see how much I wanted. Massage was better than average, but not spectacular. Lots of teasing and a good bit of 'over the clothes' roaming. Flip time, she gives the motion, I say yes, she gives the 'shhh' sign. She goes to town, and I grab a handful. . Good times were had by all. " (Jan. 28).

"The massage was OK, and upon finish she advised that I self serve, to which I declined. I requested that she take care of that. We negotiated for a bit but she finally assisted, and I left happy. . I did see that they offer credit card payments, but I'm curious if anyone would actually use that to pay for this kind of service. " (Oct. 16).

"After about 40 minutes she asked if I wanted to flip over. There was no conversation, she just went to town. I grabbed her 'rear over the clothes', and she asked if I like it. " (Aug. 15).

Greensboro "AMPs are all nonerotic. Go to Burlington, or visit a bodyrub girl. " (June 9).

"I have never left 'the business' without a handshake, nor have I had to ask for it. You don't have to ask, just make sure you let them know you have been there plenty of times before. " (March 27,2016).

"Massage was one of the best that I have received here. On the flip, she went straight for the handshake and played with my 'rear' as she did. Allowed lots of hand roaming. I will be back for her as I think she offers some out-of-office visits as well. " (March 15,2016).

Interesting article http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20170429/police-take-aim-at-sex-trade.

Maybe the Raleigh write up is next? I like how they censored certain phrases we wrote haha.

SlantedLights
05-24-17, 17:23
"Discernibly turgid". I have to remember that one.


"I kind of regret not trying to get a little extracurricular activity after the main even since it was so close to closing and there were definitely some signals of some type there. " (March 19).

"Paid for an hour massage and table shower and was done in 30 minutes. Did leave a little lighter, but then she wanted full tip. " (Feb. 1).

Table shower "was the most thorough I've ever had. She scrubbed every inch. And then some. Plenty of teasing. Definitely testing the waters to see how much I wanted. Massage was better than average, but not spectacular. Lots of teasing and a good bit of 'over the clothes' roaming. Flip time, she gives the motion, I say yes, she gives the 'shhh' sign. She goes to town, and I grab a handful. . Good times were had by all. " (Jan. 28).

"The massage was OK, and upon finish she advised that I self serve, to which I declined. I requested that she take care of that. We negotiated for a bit but she finally assisted, and I left happy. . I did see that they offer credit card payments, but I'm curious if anyone would actually use that to pay for this kind of service. " (Oct. 16).

"After about 40 minutes she asked if I wanted to flip over. There was no conversation, she just went to town. I grabbed her 'rear over the clothes', and she asked if I like it. " (Aug. 15).

Greensboro "AMPs are all nonerotic. Go to Burlington, or visit a bodyrub girl. " (June 9).

"I have never left 'the business' without a handshake, nor have I had to ask for it. You don't have to ask, just make sure you let them know you have been there plenty of times before. " (March 27,2016).

"Massage was one of the best that I have received here. On the flip, she went straight for the handshake and played with my 'rear' as she did. Allowed lots of hand roaming. I will be back for her as I think she offers some out-of-office visits as well. " (March 15,2016).

Interesting article http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20170429/police-take-aim-at-sex-trade.

Maybe the Raleigh write up is next? I like how they censored certain phrases we wrote haha.

Editit
05-25-17, 07:38
Went to the other place in ktown. Believe it's called zen still. Standard pricing. Looks 6. 5 when asked "hard or soft" I said soft. She then just did soft finger touching on back then right to light teasing. After about 5 min I just flipped over and she took it from there. No rush at all. OTC roaming up top. No way to get further.

Derppy
05-25-17, 14:42
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/all-new-grand-open-in-durham-happy-spa-919-771-7758-s/34622434

Same location, different providers. . 7 for hour. No TS like before unfortunately. On the upside, massage was pretty good. Pre-flip tease was long and outstanding. Finish was long and slow. Will def repeat.

Editit
05-26-17, 09:33
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/all-new-grand-open-in-durham-happy-spa-919-771-7758-s/34622434

Same location, different providers. . 7 for hour. No TS like before unfortunately. On the upside, massage was pretty good. Pre-flip tease was long and outstanding. Finish was long and slow. Will def repeat.How about providers looks and age? (Best guess on age) skinny, fat, any roaming allowed? Standard tip amount? Thanks for the report!

BlkNo13
05-26-17, 18:13
Can someone tell me if 0053 on JJ's list worth checking out? Looks, menu items, etc. All info is helpful. Thanks.

Wtzju
05-26-17, 21:52
This was exactly what I have done in the last a few months. However, Mamma always gave me old (late 30's or early 40's) ladies. Can someone voice out once VIP has young / pretty girl?


When asked if you have been there before say "yes" and when asked when just say it's been awhile, back when Sissy was there. Give the door fee of $80 to Mamma and leave tip on the table in the room, $100 clothes come off fast. Get undressed and your set.

OldGuy54
05-26-17, 21:52
Anybody seen this one lately?

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/varity-massages-50-for-hh-80-for-hr/35578243

MedJohnson
05-27-17, 07:08
Last report I saw said they were trying to be legit. Decent rub. If that's what you want then yes, worth it. Otherwise, maybe not.

Med.


Can someone tell me if 0053 on JJ's list worth checking out? Looks, menu items, etc. All info is helpful. Thanks.

Editit
05-27-17, 17:24
Derppy was not kidding. Nice rub, great tease, long slow ending. Took directions well. I would give my provider at 6 on the AMP scale. I roamed around OTC but could not figure out what it took to go under. I do feel it's available though. SM can PM, but not much more to add. Thanks Derppy!

JoeWeezer
05-27-17, 17:31
Went to 0035 with low expectations but was hoping for at least a good massage given their H rating. Sadly they couldn't even "pull that off". Massage was neither sensual or therapeutic and was actually uncomfortable at times. Money down the drain.

XHippie
05-27-17, 19:25
Went to 0035 with low expectations but was hoping for at least a good massage given their H rating. Sadly they couldn't even "pull that off". Massage was neither sensual or therapeutic and was actually uncomfortable at times. Money down the drain.I've been to this place probably 3 times only because I happened to be in the area and wanted a massage. Would I drive there to get a massage probably not. My trips there were probably 6 months to a year apart. Michelle gave a decent massage but that was it. The last time I was there she had expanded her shop a few more rooms and hired a girl. The girls massage was not as good as Michelle's haven't been back since. My experience with this type of place is you may luck up and catch a girl that she hired that will do more than Michelle is aware of, if not it's a dud visit all around. Would Michelle do more? My experience is it's possible but you would have to spend many many many visits there to gain her trust & tip well just for a HJ. Not worth the investment IMO unless you are just attracted too her, Easier pickings elsewhere. But if you want a massage at a quiet low volume place it's ok.

HoganMike04
05-28-17, 15:11
Asian Remedy, Durham #37 on JJ's list. Review-.

Have gone to this location in the past because of how close it is to my work. I had a couple good experiences there a couple years ago. The last couple years have been below average. And I mean below average.

Last night was the worst ever. Wanted to share this review so that you can avoid the provider or the ahop all together. Was greeted by a worn down older gal. She looked tired and frumpy. She called her self Lisa. She starts massage fine and asks if I like? I reply yes. Thank you! This happened about 3 times. Which was great. I was initially happy. The. About 7 minutes into the massage. She taps me and says "how much"? I say what? She says, how much you going to pay! I felt the blood rush to my face as I got annoyed and pissed all at once. I said "later". This question and response happened 3 or 4 times until I just ignored and laid my head back to the floor face down. Mind you. This is during my back rub. What the f? Talk about balls and also being completely rude! So, I just ignored her because of LEO reaons but mostly because she was ridiculously rude.

After awkward and horrible rub. I ask, can I turn over? I turn over after ahe takes time to talk to friend in hall as she gets cold towel too wioe my back. I flup- she atarts again. So I say "after" several more times. She said no. So I say you tell me. She says 30. I pull out 30. Then she says 40! Hahaha couldn't believe it! I pointed at the top and said good? Asking about the lift. She huffs and puffs and says 80.00 for that. Hahahahahahaha I said no thanks, got dressed and left. No tip for no massage. What a total B!

Boys, for the same amt. You can spend 30 minutes with a nicer / high end escort.

Avoid Asain Remedy!

Pubb69
05-28-17, 18:44
Asian Remedy, Durham #37 on JJ's list. Review-.

Have gone to this location in the past because of how close it is to my work. I had a couple good experiences there a couple years ago. The last couple years have been below average. And I mean below average.

Last night was the worst ever. Wanted to share this review so that you can avoid the provider or the ahop all together. Was greeted by a worn down older gal. She looked tired and frumpy. She called her self Lisa. She starts massage fine and asks if I like? I reply yes. Thank you! This happened about 3 times. Which was great. I was initially happy. The. About 7 minutes into the massage. She taps me and says "how much"? I say what? She says, how much you going to pay! I felt the blood rush to my face as I got annoyed and pissed all at once. I said "later". This question and response happened 3 or 4 times until I just ignored and laid my head back to the floor face down. Mind you. This is during my back rub. What the f? Talk about balls and also being completely rude! So, I just ignored her because of LEO reaons but mostly because she was ridiculously rude.

After awkward and horrible rub. I ask, can I turn over? I turn over after ahe takes time to talk to friend in hall as she gets cold towel too wioe my back. I flup- she atarts again. So I say "after" several more times. She said no. So I say you tell me. She says 30. I pull out 30. Then she says 40! Hahaha couldn't believe it! I pointed at the top and said good? Asking about the lift. She huffs and puffs and says 80.00 for that. Hahahahahahaha I said no thanks, got dressed and left. No tip for no massage. What a total B!

Boys, for the same amt. You can spend 30 minutes with a nicer / high end escort.

Avoid Asain Remedy!I ran into that type of hustle with someone else there a while back and just got up and dressed after 15 minutes. I couldn't believe the woman followed me to the door demanding a tip and one of the others had to intercede where she was hassling me so much on the way to the door. They move them out quick enough but that place has had some of the worst in the area.

BigBbc
05-28-17, 20:36
Anybody seen this one lately?

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TheuticMassage/varity-massages-50-for-hh-80-for-hr/35578243Keeps top on until you tip. Not worth it imo. Tip again for a rough finish. On the plus side she's located in decent complex. Going to try tulip next time.

Pgrandis54
05-29-17, 08:33
Had Linda also 3 weeks ago I asked her if Samantha was still there she said no all new girls. . Started it ok had her walk the back which was nice till she got tired and about killed me with the pressure. Rub was ok also but no preflip tease like old remedy girls on flip she just grabbed junior and she just stared into space like she really did not want to be there. Funny thing was after she left room I started to get dressed she barged in and started changing sheets while I was dressing like hurry up I got work to do. I started to leave with no tip she was so non interested in me. Handed tip and no thanks or you see me again. All business.

Won't see her again. Dam I miss not having regulars.

Shake202
05-29-17, 11:34
They disappeared for a while but had good reviews. Anyone been there since they are back posting?

Shake202
05-29-17, 11:39
This place has gotten some bad press lately. Have had some great sessions here in past, but it does seem like the ones I have seen are gone. I did see a new one last week that was younger and good, Yuyu. Great massage, but pretty inexperienced on the finish. Not bad though. She should get better with time. Very cute and sweet, did not bug me about tip. I always like to have a name to ask for if I don't like what I see when I get greeted.

JoyForEvr
05-29-17, 14:06
Has anyone review this post?

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensual-massage-by-kat/33156965

MedJohnson
05-29-17, 17:55
Went this weekend. New girl Kelly. Had a great time. Left very happy.

Med.


This place has gotten some bad press lately. Have had some great sessions here in past, but it does seem like the ones I have seen are gone. I did see a new one last week that was younger and good, Yuyu. Great massage, but pretty inexperienced on the finish. Not bad though. She should get better with time. Very cute and sweet, did not bug me about tip. I always like to have a name to ask for if I don't like what I see when I get greeted.

Agrego
05-29-17, 22:52
Has anyone review this post?

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensual-massage-by-kat/33156965She has been mentioned and reviewed here and recently too if I recall correctly. Be sure to use all tools of the forum like the search feature to find what you seek.

FordDiesel250
05-30-17, 06:44
This was exactly what I have done in the last a few months. However, Mamma always gave me old (late 30's or early 40's) ladies. Can someone voice out once VIP has young / pretty girl?They rotate every two to three weeks so its hard to say. Its been a month since I've been there but going soon. I'll report then. P.S. They like flowers but not yellow ones.

MickeyMic
05-30-17, 12:20
They rotate every two to three weeks so its hard to say. Its been a month since I've been there but going soon. I'll report then. P.S. They like flowers but not yellow ones.I read that white and yellow chrysanthemums are for funerals in their culture.

OldGuy54
05-30-17, 14:09
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/handz-by-nina-12pm-9pm-read-full-ad-919-480-8857/33217125

FordDiesel250
05-31-17, 06:34
I read that white and yellow chrysanthemums are for funerals in their culture.That makes since then. BTW they don't like yellow roses either.

MeamRed
05-31-17, 15:52
Went this weekend. New girl Kelly. Had a great time. Left very happy.
Med.Asian Remedy is one of my ATF, and fail-safe option. Until the recent reviews. I must have been there like 20 times, and disappointed with the service only 3-4 times. Glad that there is some hope for the shop still.

My first, and quite good AMP was Eden on SW cary. But one bad experience, first ripoff, left me avoiding that place, and the place eventually closed (I think). I have tried multiple AMPs in Cary, and Asian Remedy had better consistency, and right services at right price.

DTS87
06-01-17, 22:07
I've been using this forum for a couple of years and figured it was time to begin contributing. Went by 0012 and it was completely gutted and gone. Went by 0038 today and the open sign was off and seemed to be closed. The decor was still in the windows but nothing happening.

DTS87
06-01-17, 22:11
I have been using the forum for a couple of years now and figured it was time to begin contributing. Went by 0012 last week and it was completely gone, sign and all. Drove by 0038 today and the decor was still in the windows but the open sign was off and there didn't seem to be anything happening inside. These places are dropping left and right it seems. I hate it because I loved going to 0038! Thanks for all of the help in the past! I hope I can help in the future.

DTS87
06-01-17, 22:36
I saw Nancy a little while back. I have been to her many times over the past couple of years but it seems with each appointment I get yet another reason to not go back. This past time, everything just felt rushed, although I got my full time. It's just tough to put into words. Even though I got my full time, the whole experience just felt rushed and mechanical, almost like she was just trying to get through the appointment. She is cute and sweet however, the AMP in Clayton became my go to spot until I went today and the sign was off. I sure wish someone / some place with the sensuality and massage skill we all want would open up on this side of Raleigh.

Es421
06-02-17, 06:12
I saw Nancy a little while back. I have been to her many times over the past couple of years but it seems with each appointment I get yet another reason to not go back. This past time, everything just felt rushed, although I got my full time. It's just tough to put into words. Even though I got my full time, the whole experience just felt rushed and mechanical, almost like she was just trying to get through the appointment. She is cute and sweet however, the AMP in Clayton became my go to spot until I went today and the sign was off. I sure wish someone / some place with the sensuality and massage skill we all want would open up on this side of Raleigh.I stopped visiting because although the massage is good, there is zero sensuality for the finish. Just a jackhammer. That spoils the finish for me. I think she feels that it is part of the massage in order to keep clients happy rather than enjoying it a little herself and having some fun with it.

MythMan2010
06-02-17, 14:39
Just for context, I hit numi spa when it was first open and got the standard handshake. Well, I guess I was due for a bomb and it happened today. Sweet, no English gal (tina) that wanted to please, but had no skill set. Not a good massage, no tease at all, and definitely no handshake.

It's like she didn't even know the deal. I left. 4 on the table before the massage which is my standard practice. I left with it there because I didn't want to be a dick even though it was the worst experience I've had in the years I've been doing this.

Oh well. Lesson learned. Makes be think about Mimi or Amy and I really miss them now.

Jimjim77
06-02-17, 16:21
This does happen. Some girls actually don't know what they are getting into. Some have recently arrived from China or were actually brought over by a friend who is working there. They come from the farm or factory to earn money in America for her family. It's hard to believe but some are not told what to expect, don't understand, or just play dumb. I once got the first massage ever given by one. If they are lucky their friend or one of the other girls will help them the first few times. This used to happen a lot more a couple of years ago when the popular places needed to have 4 or 5 girls working at once. It can actually be fun or strange at least. Just use your phones translator to tell them what you want. The reactions can be priceless.


Just for context, I hit numi spa when it was first open and got the standard handshake. Well, I guess I was due for a bomb and it happened today. Sweet, no English gal (tina) that wanted to please, but had no skill set. Not a good massage, no tease at all, and definitely no handshake.

It's like she didn't even know the deal. I left. 4 on the table before the massage which is my standard practice. I left with it there because I didn't want to be a dick even though it was the worst experience I've had in the years I've been doing this.

Oh well. Lesson learned. Makes be think about Mimi or Amy and I really miss them now.

XHippie
06-02-17, 17:01
Just for context, I hit numi spa when it was first open and got the standard handshake. Well, I guess I was due for a bomb and it happened today. Sweet, no English gal (tina) that wanted to please, but had no skill set. Not a good massage, no tease at all, and definitely no handshake.

It's like she didn't even know the deal. I left. 4 on the table before the massage which is my standard practice. I left with it there because I didn't want to be a dick even though it was the worst experience I've had in the years I've been doing this.

Oh well. Lesson learned. Makes be think about Mimi or Amy and I really miss them now.I went to this place the first couple weeks it opened and they had 2 girls there that gave a good Rub and Tug my favorite one of the two Linda I think left first. She was the most attractive and playful, then the replacements started rotating. I saw one there nice rack big thick girl and actually managed to do daty to that fat poontang the first time with her. Went back about two weeks later thinking we were bonding but she would not remove nothing and the touching was limited. I figured her boss must have read or heard something and had a talk with the staff. Speaking of the boss if I remember correct she spoke very good English and was pretty hot looking always sat up front. I'm thinking the owner knows this business well and keeps a short leash on these girls and is probably very selective who she hires especially if she has an American spouse that is aware of reviews such as here. All that said somehow they are still there and paying the bills for now. Based on how nice the store is I just have a gut feeling an American is involved somehow, not all but most Asians do the bare minimum constructions a store, this one seems a little different. JJ is right though many girls fresh off the plane in LA or Flushing NY have no idea. Sure they learn fast and some that step off the plane already have a nasty streak. But I personally have had to explain to individuals what the word's hand job, blow job, full sex, happy ending means, however they are a natural at learning the tip scale. Yes you would think their co-worker or boss would teach them but there are many terms about the business they don't have a clue about, like JJ said the expression on their face is shock the first time a newbie sees a guy point's to her lips then his dick. So when this guy laid 40 on the table before the massage she may not have had a clue, is it a tip? Will he put it in his pocket later?. And of course there is the shitty massage you just paid for and you are thinking oh shit an hour of this. I could be wrong but with the changes that has happened around here the experienced girls that demand a big pay check that know how to service and massage are leaving and the owners are getting rookies to take their place. Example 0001 & 0037 fits this scenario

MythMan2010
06-02-17, 19:52
Thanks Jim and Hippie. I think you both expressed what was in the back of my head. I just had the sense that this girl was straight off the plane and no one told her the deal.

I did notice the cutie English speaking girl that rung me up. I would suspect she's the operator and the other girls do the heavy lifting.

Either way, you hope they figure things out else that place won't last long, even with the lack of competition.

And just as a side note, it's only $60 and $40 so no big loss. It's sucks to pay for that bullshit but I just count it as the cost of doing business in a shady industry. I've walked in with a backpage.com girl, paid and after just not feeling it without my cash. I just bail and call it a day.

Thanks again for the great responses.

Tee98
06-02-17, 22:24
This does happen. Some girls actually don't know what they are getting into. Some have recently arrived from China or were actually brought over by a friend who is working there. They come from the farm or factory to earn money in America for her family. It's hard to believe but some are not told what to expect, don't understand, or just play dumb. I once got the first massage ever given by one. If they are lucky their friend or one of the other girls will help them the first few times. This used to happen a lot more a couple of years ago when the popular places needed to have 4 or 5 girls working at once. It can actually be fun or strange at least. Just use your phones translator to tell them what you want. The reactions can be priceless.A lot of these girls come from the rural areas of China and they are lured to the US by ads for nanny 's or housekeepers. They all stay in Flushing in these apartments where there are at least 10 beds per room and the girls who stay there work in all aspects of services most at low wages. They find out from the massage girls that they bring home alot more money so they make a career change even though they know nothing about what goes on in a massage parlor. This is where girls like Wendy come in they charge these girls $500 to teach them how to give a massage. Right now we don't have any Wendy's to teach them so its on the job training. Alot of these girls are raised old school Chinese and are very sheltered. It took me months to get my SO to walk next to me instead of 3 steps behind.

MatinCary
06-02-17, 22:43
Met Michelle from CL last week end. She provides decent massage and amazingly sensual. Will finish with swallow. She claims to be 28, I guess she is closer 35. Has some tattoos. Slim, white. She provides out calls only. Worth the 1. 2 if you have a safe place to meet. I believe she is open for FS also, didn't check it as that was not what I was looking for. I found the post removed today. There is no direct email or phone in the ad and the ad is pretty short. I would recommend if you are looking for a good massage with finish.

ExpectMore
06-03-17, 01:26
Hey Mythman if you think you didn't get a good service, put a part of the money back in your pocket (even though you laid it out in the open). You can leave some amount if you want but not necessarily 40 $.

Asian people communicate with their peers about money / tips. She will figure out why that happened and she will learn to provide a better service next time. I appreciate what they do and their hard work and their boldness to come to a new country and try this out for various reasons, but 20 $ tip for a bad massage is not being a dick. She will survive.

I also have a report to contribute. I went to 0045 (2945 S Miami). My experience was similar to the report by other mongers (generally good). I saw both the women there. One was a 6 like somebody else pointed out, and another may be 7. Among the two women, one of the women is back in Raleigh after a couple of years of rotation elsewhere. Some veterans might know who I am talking about.


Thanks Jim and Hippie. I think you both expressed what was in the back of my head. I just had the sense that this girl was straight off the plane and no one told her the deal.

I did notice the cutie English speaking girl that rung me up. I would suspect she's the operator and the other girls do the heavy lifting.

Either way, you hope they figure things out else that place won't last long, even with the lack of competition.

And just as a side note, it's only $60 and $40 so no big loss. It's sucks to pay for that bullshit but I just count it as the cost of doing business in a shady industry. I've walked in with a backpage.com girl, paid and after just not feeling it without my cash. I just bail and call it a day.

Thanks again for the great responses.

Jimjim77
06-03-17, 08:13
I had a few "training" sessions with Wendy and a new girl. It was always fun, and Wendy always brought them along.


A lot of these girls come from the rural areas of China and they are lured to the US by ads for nanny 's or housekeepers. They all stay in Flushing in these apartments where there are at least 10 beds per room and the girls who stay there work in all aspects of services most at low wages. They find out from the massage girls that they bring home alot more money so they make a career change even though they know nothing about what goes on in a massage parlor. This is where girls like Wendy come in they charge these girls $500 to teach them how to give a massage. Right now we don't have any Wendy's to teach them so its on the job training. Alot of these girls are raised old school Chinese and are very sheltered. It took me months to get my SO to walk next to me instead of 3 steps behind.

McGehee
06-03-17, 09:48
...I could be wrong but with the changes that has happened around here the experienced girls that demand a big pay check that know how to service and massage are leaving and the owners are getting rookies to take their place. Example 0001 & 0037 fits this scenarioI frequent 0037. There's been a lot of turnover the last year or so. Back in April I had a couple of massages with an older provider who was talkative (the kind who has enough English to ask "are you married; do you have kids; what do you do". So I asked her the same -- said she came to the States to make money to send back to her family in China. She discovered the AMP massage path, but she also discovered she had to give extras beyond massage to survive; and just didn't like doing releases on anyone and everyone. She was actually pretty good at it, massage and release, but she has moved on now, part of the ongoing turnover at 0037.

XHippie
06-03-17, 15:31
I frequent 0037. There's been a lot of turnover the last year or so. Back in April I had a couple of massages with an older provider who was talkative (the kind who has enough English to ask "are you married; do you have kids; what do you do". So I asked her the same -- said she came to the States to make money to send back to her family in China. She discovered the AMP massage path, but she also discovered she had to give extras beyond massage to survive; and just didn't like doing releases on anyone and everyone. She was actually pretty good at it, massage and release, but she has moved on now, part of the ongoing turnover at 0037.Every store including 0037 or whoever will have will have flat periods where there is no one entertaining or they will have at least one.

MeamRed
06-03-17, 23:40
I had a few "training" sessions with Wendy and a new girl. It was always fun, and Wendy always brought them along.Who is wendy? Quick forum search showed a different wendy.

DMizzle26
06-04-17, 12:11
But bare with me guys LOL. Ill been thinking about going to MP but I wanted to know the general attitude from these girls towards Guys who isn't particularly in good shape, Like does the service change or is it still just all about the money and vibe.

XHippie
06-04-17, 15:23
But bare with me guys LOL. Ill been thinking about going to MP but I wanted to know the general attitude from these girls towards Guys who isn't particularly in good shape, Like does the service change or is it still just all about the money and vibe.I've had a few conversations with these ladies and I can tell you if they had their choice between a Brad Pitt cheap tipper or a Chris Farley big tipper they will take Chris every time. These ladies are human and have desires and attractions just like us but they are not working 12 hour days for fun, this is hard work it's their job. A good looking buffed guy laying on the table looks great but an old white haired man with a fat wallet gets them just as excited. Fat, skinny, old, they don't care. We all know the magic for the customer happens around the last 5 minute mark. The magic for them happens when you decide what to tip, the tip is their bread and butter of their pay check. So if you don't look that great but you treat them friendly, follow their lead no groping unless she's into it and tip very well I guarantee you will get a smile on your face and hers. They definitely remember good tippers. Asian women don't put as much stock into her man's look's, she is more impressed by his treatment of her. So the moral of the story is if you don't look that great be nice and throw in another $10 on that tip you will stand out from the rest, consider it an investment on your next visit.

MatinCary
06-04-17, 17:03
I've had a few conversations with these ladies and I can tell you if they had their choice between a Brad Pitt cheap tipper or a Chris Farley big tipper they will take Chris every time. These ladies are human and have desires and attractions just like us but they are not working 12 hour days for fun, this is hard work it's their job. A good looking buffed guy laying on the table looks great but an old white haired man with a fat wallet gets them just as excited. Fat, skinny, old, they don't care. We all know the magic for the customer happens around the last 5 minute mark. The magic for them happens when you decide what to tip, the tip is their bread and butter of their pay check. So if you don't look that great but you treat them friendly, follow their lead no groping unless she's into it and tip very well I guarantee you will get a smile on your face and hers. They definitely remember good tippers. Asian women don't put as much stock into her man's look's, she is more impressed by his treatment of her. So the moral of the story is if you don't look that great be nice and throw in another $10 on that tip you will stand out from the rest, consider it an investment on your next visit.I agree. I myself is not in the best shape. Not too bad though. I don't think shape is important when it comes to MPs. It is more about the tips and vibe. I have felt some providers (not MPs) prefer guys in good shape. That being said good hygiene and attitude could get you more things than a great body. If you really have a killer body, you might not even need a 'provider'.

RWarNmsn69
06-04-17, 19:02
I've had a few conversations with these ladies and I can tell you if they had their choice between a Brad Pitt cheap tipper or a Chris Farley big tipper they will take Chris every time. These ladies are human and have desires and attractions just like us but they are not working 12 hour days for fun, this is hard work it's their job. A good looking buffed guy laying on the table looks great but an old white haired man with a fat wallet gets them just as excited. Fat, skinny, old, they don't care. We all know the magic for the customer happens around the last 5 minute mark. The magic for them happens when you decide what to tip, the tip is their bread and butter of their pay check. So if you don't look that great but you treat them friendly, follow their lead no groping unless she's into it and tip very well I guarantee you will get a smile on your face and hers. They definitely remember good tippers. Asian women don't put as much stock into her man's look's, she is more impressed by his treatment of her. So the moral of the story is if you don't look that great be nice and throw in another $10 on that tip you will stand out from the rest, consider it an investment on your next visit.Well said response! Safe mongering and sugaring!

Jimjim77
06-04-17, 22:42
Wendy worked at Studio a couple of years ago. She is a legend among many who frequent AMPs.


Who is wendy? Quick forum search showed a different wendy.

Jimjim77
06-04-17, 22:47
If you treat them nice and tip well you will be treated very well even if you are fat, old, and ugly. Attitude and tips are all that matter will most all the AMP Providors. Don't be an Ahole and tip well and they should treat you very well.


But bare with me guys LOL. Ill been thinking about going to MP but I wanted to know the general attitude from these girls towards Guys who isn't particularly in good shape, Like does the service change or is it still just all about the money and vibe.

FrankenFurter
06-05-17, 00:45
But bare with me guys LOL. Ill been thinking about going to MP but I wanted to know the general attitude from these girls towards Guys who isn't particularly in good shape, Like does the service change or is it still just all about the money and vibe.Don't treat them like they owe you for allowing them to touch you. Pay them for their service. It's just a service, they treat all the same unless your an ass clown.

XHippie
06-05-17, 02:20
Who is wendy? Quick forum search showed a different wendy.Many have their Wendy stories here's mine.
Every once in awhile her name comes up and us Studio Salon old timers from way back 3 or 4 years ago (a long time in monger terms) reminisce. I really hate to admit it but I used Wendy as a bench mark for a long time with other providers. All I was doing was setting myself up for disappointment. Why? Who is Wendy? Wendy was not a 10 in the looks department maybe a 6, spoke very few English words, had a thin body with small tits. Some would say well that's strike 3 & 4. Ahhh What Wendy did have was a very warm smile and personality, gave a very decent massage & was very affectionate. Would play as much as you wanted to in the shower, would do just about everything in the massage room and give you a great massage afterwards. She loved to nibble on your body parts, ears, nipples and depending on her attraction to you whatever she wanted too, she surprised me a few times where she nibbled. She was a slice of VIP in Cary. NEVER NEVER asked for a tip or counted it when you gave it to her. Wendy was not a young woman but she sure was an experienced woman. I could see her and then later see a much younger hotter looking girl at another place, No comparison Wendy was the real deal she new what a guy liked. But the really big difference with her was the other girls it was / is 100% about the tip. Wendy actually liked having a good time enjoying the moment never rushed and boy was she good at it. There's been girls around here that offered a treat on the menu such as one at Westgate but she and the others did not leave the same impression on me as Wendy did. Cause when I left them I felt ok I busted a nut and they got a good size tip, off to the mall for a sandwich. Whenever I left Wendy I always felt WE BOTH had a great time and on my way back home I played it over in my head like a movie thinking humm how long should I wait till my next visit don't want to creep her out LOL. It's probably good that she didn't speak English that well some guy would have scooped her up and taken her home with him. Hope that gives you a picture of who this Wendy was, a true GFE. To see the way SS is now kinda sad man I miss her.

Tee98
06-05-17, 08:46
Many have their Wendy stories here's mine.
Every once in awhile her name comes up and us Studio Salon old timers from way back 3 or 4 years ago (a long time in monger terms) reminisce. I really hate to admit it but I used Wendy as a bench mark for a long time with other providers. All I was doing was setting myself up for disappointment. Why? Who is Wendy? Wendy was not a 10 in the looks department maybe a 6, spoke very few English words, had a thin body with small tits. Some would say well that's strike 3 & 4. Ahhh What Wendy did have was a very warm smile and personality, gave a very decent massage & was very affectionate. Would play as much as you wanted to in the shower, would do just about everything in the massage room and give you a great massage afterwards. She loved to nibble on your body parts, ears, nipples and depending on her attraction to you whatever she wanted too, she surprised me a few times where she nibbled. She was a slice of VIP in Cary. NEVER NEVER asked for a tip or counted it when you gave it to her. Wendy was not a young woman but she sure was an experienced woman. I could see her and then later see a much younger hotter looking girl at another place, No comparison Wendy was the real deal she new what a guy liked. But the really big difference with her was the other girls it was / is 100% about the tip. Wendy actually liked having a good time enjoying the moment never rushed and boy was she good at it. There's been girls around here that offered a treat on the menu such as one at Westgate but she and the others did not leave the same impression on me as Wendy did. Cause when I left them I felt ok I busted a nut and they got a good size tip, off to the mall for a sandwich. Whenever I left Wendy I always felt WE BOTH had a great time and on my way back home I played it over in my head like a movie thinking humm how long should I wait till my next visit don't want to creep her out LOL. It's probably good that she didn't speak English that well some guy would have scooped her up and taken her home with him. Hope that gives you a picture of who this Wendy was, a true GFE. To see the way SS is now kinda sad man I miss her.It's my understanding that Wendy is working in the Atlanta area but not sure at which shop. I over heard Coco talking to her on the phone but I don't ask it's a sore subject with Coco and me.

Purple45
06-05-17, 20:43
Asian Remedy is one of my ATF, and fail-safe option. Until the recent reviews. I must have been there like 20 times, and disappointed with the service only 3-4 times. Glad that there is some hope for the shop still.

My first, and quite good AMP was Eden on SW cary. But one bad experience, first ripoff, left me avoiding that place, and the place eventually closed (I think). I have tried multiple AMPs in Cary, and Asian Remedy had better consistency, and right services at right price.I also had a bad experience at Eden. Not once but twice and with two different girls. Eden was super busy at one time and they had a mixture of young girls and mature ladies working together. The store manager must have been more concerned about volume then quality and some girl's attitudes soured when a few girls were clearly more popular than the others. Eden got so bad that the girls would lie on the phone and say whoever you was looking for was available when really she was not. When you arrived and ask for that girl you was given a substitute not to your liking.

If a girl is overweight, doesn't speak English, is mechanical, not personable or appears she doesn't have good hygiene well she shouldn't be surprised if she passed for another girl. But guess what? They look like they just sucked on a lemon when they are skipped over or only get a (. 25) tip. This is a service and the one with the cash does the choosing. These gals should make themselves marketable and play the game or go get another job. More often than not an average looking slender gal who has a smile, gives a good massage and is not a jackhammer on the flip will have no trouble getting customers.

Purple45
06-05-17, 21:08
I've had a few conversations with these ladies and I can tell you if they had their choice between a Brad Pitt cheap tipper or a Chris Farley big tipper they will take Chris every time. These ladies are human and have desires and attractions just like us but they are not working 12 hour days for fun, this is hard work it's their job. A good looking buffed guy laying on the table looks great but an old white haired man with a fat wallet gets them just as excited. Fat, skinny, old, they don't care. We all know the magic for the customer happens around the last 5 minute mark. The magic for them happens when you decide what to tip, the tip is their bread and butter of their pay check. So if you don't look that great but you treat them friendly, follow their lead no groping unless she's into it and tip very well I guarantee you will get a smile on your face and hers. They definitely remember good tippers. Asian women don't put as much stock into her man's look's, she is more impressed by his treatment of her. So the moral of the story is if you don't look that great be nice and throw in another $10 on that tip you will stand out from the rest, consider it an investment on your next visit.I agree that the tip is king to these girls. They look at customers as cash cows that keep their shopping sprees and all night gambling spurs financed. In fact they love the customer who pays the house fee, skips the massage, lays face up, gets his release and leaves a Franklin on the table with plenty of time still on the clock. Guys I will tell you truth that several girls have told me. The Raleigh area has many "cheap assholes" who choose not to tip the girl accordingly for a quality massage and tension release received. These girls will look for jobs in affluential markets where they can earn good tips for their hard work. You better believe that their girlfriends, who are making more elsewhere, will tell them to pack their bags and take the next bus out of town.

*Secret: if a girl really likes you then she will never mention the tip and later on she will not even want one at all.

XHippie
06-06-17, 01:05
I agree that the tip is king to these girls. They look at customers as cash cows that keep their shopping sprees and all night gambling spurs financed. In fact they love the customer who pays the house fee, skips the massage, lays face up, gets his release and leaves a Franklin on the table with plenty of time still on the clock. Guys I will tell you truth that several girls have told me. The Raleigh area has many "cheap assholes" who choose not to tip the girl accordingly for a quality massage and tension release received. These girls will look for jobs in affluential markets where they can earn good tips for their hard work. You better believe that their girlfriends, who are making more elsewhere, will tell them to pack their bags and take the next bus out of town.

*Secret: if a girl really likes you then she will never mention the tip and later on she will not even want one at all.Yep you are right about the tip being the deal breaker. The tip issue gets reviewed on just about every board in every city. It usually has two opinions, one is from guys that say fellas keep the tips in the standard range so we can keep these girls from demanding too much. Then there's "I'll be honest and not bullshit" guys like me that throw in another $10 "IF" I think she and the situation is ripe for future visits. Other than that I'm with the first group's opinion it is the standard. My strategy for the extra tip is only if I'm trying to bond with a certain lady which obviously means multiple trips. Otherwise why bother giving extra jumping from store to store, unless the one time visit was great or You just liked her and know how important these tips are. Most girls only get a portion of the door fee, some only (get paid what they make in tips, these are usually the FS places but there are some rub and tug stores with this system) and they have to pay the store owner rent each week not much but it still cost. The only problem with my strategy is it works great if you have the hottie you are trying to bond with that will stay in one spot for 6 months, well we know how that's going around here. Oh I've had plenty of massages where it was not easy giving her a mercy $10 tip the service was so bad. The standard tip scale is a game plan going in but the action in the room is what decides the real tip. I always carry extra tip cash because I may be tipping her for a surprise she laid on me or I may be tipping 2 that I had not planned for, whoowa. If not a warm and fuzzy feeling about this visit or potential me and my money go home. You never know be prepared to tip for good service, never under tip if she gave you your monies worth this only causes them to want to leave like P45 said.

FordDiesel250
06-06-17, 07:33
Yep you are right about the tip being the deal breaker. The tip issue gets reviewed on just about every board in every city. It usually has two opinions, one is from guys that say fellas keep the tips in the standard range so we can keep these girls from demanding too much. Then there's "I'll be honest and not bullshit" guys like me that throw in another $10 "IF" I think she and the situation is ripe for future visits. Other than that I'm with the first group's opinion it is the standard. My strategy for the extra tip is only if I'm trying to bond with a certain lady which obviously means multiple trips. Otherwise why bother giving extra jumping from store to store, unless the one time visit was great or You just liked her and know how important these tips are. Most girls only get a portion of the door fee, some only (get paid what they make in tips, these are usually the FS places but there are some rub and tug stores with this system) and they have to pay the store owner rent each week not much but it still cost. The only problem with my strategy is it works great if you have the hottie you are trying to bond with that will stay in one spot for 6 months, well we know how that's going around here. Oh I've had plenty of massages where it was not easy giving her a mercy $10 tip the service was so bad. The standard tip scale is a game plan going in but the action in the room is what decides the real tip. I always carry extra tip cash because I may be tipping her for a surprise she laid on me or I may be tipping 2 that I had not planned for, whoowa. If not a warm and fuzzy feeling about this visit or potential me and my money go home. You never know be prepared to tip for good service, never under tip if she gave you your monies worth this only causes them to want to leave like P45 said.Your right. I was at our Very Important Place the other day and while getting the table shower the bell rang, mamma answered the door and sent the guy away. I asked "busy today?" and she replied "no good customer, always complain and no tip". Mamma looks after the regulars because she knows the regulars look after the girls. I'm a older biker and like he attention for the girls, that's why I opt for the table shower, just feels good. I have never had "bad service" some just better than others. I pay the house fee and leave $. 2 on the table. I love to see the the fully nude Asian bodies. I let her decide how we finish but like I said never been disappointed either. Mamma tries to keep young good looking girls there. I've never had the girls look at the tip or pick it up till we are done. Won that is there now even said she is looking for a rich man, haha so if you are in the market, go flaunt the money. Happy hunting.

Jimjim77
06-06-17, 08:27
http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20170429/police-take-aim-at-sex-trade?start=3

Everyone should read.

XHippie
06-06-17, 09:17
http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20170429/police-take-aim-at-sex-trade?start=3

Everyone should read.Oooo I'm scared, Did they get all of this info by squeezing it out of some scared little guy they cornered? BULL SHIT I doubt it, this article info came straight from them reading USASG. I've gone in my share of AMP's and have NEVER paid for sexual favors. I have always paid for a massage and conversation only. Oh they may have massaged a body part faster than other body parts but that was their choice. Or we were affectionate with each other because we are old friends but no cash at anytime was exchanged for this cuddling. Everyone knows cash for sex is illegal. My feelings are truly hurt by this article and quite frankly I'm a little offended that all us guys that need a massage for our tired backs would be accused of breaking the law like the common criminal on the street THAT YOU SHOULD BE SPENDING YOUR TIME AND TAX PAYERS DOLLARS CATCHING. But it was a well articulated written article. So you fellas at the station keep monitoring oops I mean reading and posting on USASG we need to keep the board as strong and active as possible thanks for your help. Shhhh Mr LE We want tell the wife about your visits to your favorite porn sites. Thanks for the article JJ.

Tee98
06-06-17, 14:25
Oooo I'm scared, Did they get all of this info by squeezing it out of some scared little guy they cornered? BULL SHIT I doubt it, this article info came straight from them reading USASG. I've gone in my share of AMP's and have NEVER paid for sexual favors. I have always paid for a massage and conversation only. Oh they may have massaged a body part faster than other body parts but that was their choice. Or we were affectionate with each other because we are old friends but no cash at anytime was exchanged for this cuddling. Everyone knows cash for sex is illegal. My feelings are truly hurt by this article and quite frankly I'm a little offended that all us guys that need a massage for our tired backs would be accused of breaking the law like the common criminal on the street THAT YOU SHOULD BE SPENDING YOUR TIME AND TAX PAYERS DOLLARS CATCHING. But it was a well articulated written article. So you fellas at the station keep monitoring oops I mean reading and posting on USASG we need to keep the board as strong and active as possible thanks for your help. Shhhh Mr LE We want tell the wife about your visits to your favorite porn sites. Thanks for the article JJ.The most important thing I read in this article was that I can get $4500 off a Ford in Burlington. Haha.

XHippie
06-06-17, 16:52
The most important thing I read in this article was that I can get $4500 off a Ford in Burlington. Haha.Haha good one! Here's the most important thing I got from the article. Ok I'm going to show my age here bare with me. Art Linkletter was a tv personality in the 50's & 60's that had a great show where he would have these little kids sitting in chairs ages 4 to 6 I'm guessing. He would ask them questions about various things I life. The answers they gave were hilarious. In real life Art's son died from a drug over dose so Art started educating the kids about all the different kinds of dangerous drugs there are that could hurt them. One time he asked a kid what important thing he could tell his parents that was learned at Mr Linkletter's show that day. The kid answer with a straight face I want to thank Mr Linkletter for introducing me to drugs. Now the point of this story is, anyone that was curious about the terms, names or what can be gotten at an AMP which they gave the definition for does not have to do all this research. If they always wondered what do I say when I enter what to expect what's a happy ending? This article did all the heavy lifting it's all there all the answers you need. Man where were these articles when I started out, could have gotten me way more pussy. Nice job guys!

MedJohnson
06-06-17, 17:01
I read article and thought "what a great advertisement for AMPs". Nice job by the author and sherrif pretty much saying we don't care about sex for money until another crime is committed.

Med.


Haha good one! Here's the most important thing I got from the article. Ok I'm going to show my age here bare with me. Art Linkletter was a tv personality in the 50's & 60's that had a great show where he would have these little kids sitting in chairs ages 4 to 6 I'm guessing. He would ask them questions about various things I life. The answers they gave were hilarious. In real life Art's son died from a drug over dose so Art started educating the kids about all the different kinds of dangerous drugs there are that could hurt them. One time he asked a kid what important thing he could tell his parents that was learned at Mr Linkletter's show that day. The kid answer with a straight face I want to thank Mr Linkletter for introducing me to drugs. Now the point of this story is, anyone that was curious about the terms, names or what can be gotten at an AMP which they gave the definition for does not have to do all this research. If they always wondered what do I say when I enter what to expect what's a happy ending? This article did all the heavy lifting it's all there all the answers you need. Man where were these articles when I started out, could have gotten me way more pussy. Nice job guys!

Tee98
06-06-17, 21:33
http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20170429/police-take-aim-at-sex-trade?start=3

Everyone should read.It actually was an interesting article but my problem with these kind of articles is they all assume everyone who goes into an AMP is a male. I know my significant other has told me that when she was at #45 she had at least 10 female regular customers. I won't have believed that but many times when we would be eating in the back I saw with my own eyes women coming in. I asked her many times what happens on the flip but was always told to stop thinking about it you will hurt yourself. But inquiring minds want to know. So I got thinking in the article it has quotes off of this site and we are all hiding behind a screen name but that doesn't mean the quotes are all from men. Read them some of them could be from females. I think the girl who wrote the article wants to visit an AMP but doesn't have the guts to walk in.

XHippie
06-06-17, 23:41
It actually was an interesting article but my problem with these kind of articles is they all assume everyone who goes into an AMP is a male. I know my significant other has told me that when she was at #45 she had at least 10 female regular customers. I won't have believed that but many times when we would be eating in the back I saw with my own eyes women coming in. I asked her many times what happens on the flip but was always told to stop thinking about it you will hurt yourself. But inquiring minds want to know. So I got thinking in the article it has quotes off of this site and we are all hiding behind a screen name but that doesn't mean the quotes are all from men. Read them some of them could be from females. I think the girl who wrote the article wants to visit an AMP but doesn't have the guts to walk in.I'll share a little personal story.
My girlfriend had to help run one of her friends stores in South Carolina while her friend went back to China for a few weeks for a family illness. I was there for a few days visiting to keep her company when a female customer came in. I'm in one of the Massage rooms relaxing playing on my IPad. It was really a massage room converted into a bedroom where they slept with really thin walls. I could hear every word of the conversation in the other room. The customer talked about her boyfriend her animals her new apartment just small stuff. About 30 minutes into the massage the girl asked if she could massage a little softer "my HE ears perked up". My girlfriend said sure no problem are you in pain am I applying too much pressure? The girl said no I just like the feel of your soft hands. Oh hell I've used that tactic before I know where this is going. My girlfriend has seen and heard it all she knows the signals be it physically or verbally she said no problem I'll be gentle. The girl said I'm all yours you are in charge do what you want. So flip time and by this time the battery on my IPad is dead and I'm listening so hard I could have heard a nat fart. I know the girls flat on her back by now and I know what my girl will and won't do to any customer. I'm listening with all my might LOL, no sound no talking WTF is happening? Then I hear my girl say ok I'll get you some hot towels. 5 minutes later it's over. The girl left and later that night at dinner I asked my girl friend, so umm I noticed you had a female customer today what's it like massaging a female? She replied they talk a little more than men other than that it's about the same, yea right. So I'm thinking how am I going to ask her if this lady wanted more than a massage. So I just came out and said you ever have a female ask you to touch them in sensual area's? She said no but I've had them touch themselves like the lady today had her hands under the towel on herself while I was massaging. Okay that confirmed my curiosity that some female's need to bust a nut too.

Es421
06-07-17, 06:42
http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20170429/police-take-aim-at-sex-trade?start=3

Everyone should read.It's having the desired impact I suppose. Two seem to have closed down. Not busted, but I suppose just don't want to deal with LEO shit. Having our officers sitting in parking lots watching the stores and customers not good for business. Not good for the citizens either since tax dollars are paying for them to sit around on their asses rather than patrol. How many hours wasted on this shit rather than actually protecting their citizens. Vote against and Sheriff that wastes resources for this stupid stuff. They are helping no-one. If they think they are, they are delusional, period.

MedJohnson
06-07-17, 07:23
I'm pretty good at massage myself and have let more than one AMP girl sample my talent- they have told me I should come to work with them to take care of the ladies. Maybe a new career path for me. Until a fugly one waffles in- don't know if I could handle that kind of happy ending.

Med.

MeamRed
06-07-17, 08:06
Had a good massage++ at 37. Her name is yuyu, and good session overall. Limited roaming with slightly upgradable options. She was cute and possibly in her late 20's.

FordDiesel250
06-07-17, 08:44
I'm pretty good at massage myself and have let more than one AMP girl sample my talent- they have told me I should come to work with them to take care of the ladies. Maybe a new career path for me. Until a fugly one waffles in- don't know if I could handle that kind of happy ending.

Med.I too often give the ladies a massage. I love giving a massage as good as I like getting one, well almost. It surprises them when you ask to give them a massage. They act like they don't know what to do. Keep trying to get up, just lay there and relax haha. Where's the oil! I don't need another career, I'll do it for FREE!

BoatFool
06-07-17, 12:49
I'm pretty good at massage myself and have let more than one AMP girl sample my talent- they have told me I should come to work with them to take care of the ladies. Maybe a new career path for me. Until a fugly one waffles in- don't know if I could handle that kind of happy ending.

Med.Back in my AMP days, I massaged girls regularly. Hannah at VIP loved massage as she had a number of pain issues with her neck and back at the time. Once I was there with another gal and Hannah came in during the session and pretty much demanded that I massage her when I was done with the other lady. I was happy to oblige.

In most cases, I found that the ladies could take and wanted my strongest, deep tissue massage.

There was a gal in Greenville SC that wanted it as hard as I could give it to her. She was red faced and I was sweating when we were done but she never winced or made a noise when I was working on her. As I got dressed to leave, she left the room and returned to give me a Jackson tip. That tip still cracks me up.

BF.

MythMan2010
06-07-17, 20:27
So on business in Philly and had the chance to hit little Chinatown (a few blocks of Chinese shops) and did $50 (1 hour) and laid down a $40. What the hell right?

Cute late 20's gal limited English but sweet. The rub started. In about 15-20 minutes she transitioned and got the job done. She had a serious cute ass and it was bare so I did get some solid time on it while she did her work.

Either way, it's funny to see even there it's the same good things and same challenges. Hard to get the great massage we all want AND the outstanding finish. Good to get outside experiences.

XHippie
06-07-17, 23:46
So on business in Philly and had the chance to hit little Chinatown (a few blocks of Chinese shops) and did $50 (1 hour) and laid down a $40. What the hell right?

Cute late 20's gal limited English but sweet. The rub started. In about 15-20 minutes she transitioned and got the job done. She had a serious cute ass and it was bare so I did get some solid time on it while she did her work.

Either way, it's funny to see even there it's the same good things and same challenges. Hard to get the great massage we all want AND the outstanding finish. Good to get outside experiences.As far as Asian fun.
There are many places in NY one hour massage is $25 and they are making cash left and right. I was in San Gabriel CA a few years ago I found one hour massage $25 on every corner and just about all the girls looked less than 30 years old why so young at such a cheep price? Because they were busy from the time they opened till the time they closed. The FS places were waaay cheaper than around here, fuck her brains out for $20 door fee $80 tip and there were even cheaper places. I've been traveling down south a lot lately on a project I don't know when will end. I have seen a few advertise $45 for an hour free TS while others around the same area are charging 60 & 70. So in some areas there's a bit of a price war going on. This area in RTP and surrounding areas IMO is stuck in a funk. The quality has either gone down hill or not improved (service or just the lady) and the same old prices haven't budged. It's like each store is looking at each other and saying they haven't changed why should I. So this is one of the main reasons they cannot hire or retain quality employees (young hot sweeties) I am definitely not a Walmart Fan they have put a lot of mom and pop places out of business claiming they created so many great jobs. But I am a business man that observes and tries to learn from winners and the one thing Walmart tought the business community is if you don't get the customer we will and they did. If just one of these AMP's were to get 2, 3, 4 great looking girls and charge $45 an hour with a free TS the damn place would be rocking. They don't have to go full blown VIP service just offer a great time at a great price with great looking girls. And by them staying crazy busy the great looking girls will actually stay because the cash is rolling in and round and round we go it worked for Walmart. Other cities are doing it and it is causing the other stores charging 60,70 & 80 to lower their price to survive, what a concept charge LESS to survive and kill the competition. Mark my word somebody is going to start picking Microsoft and Apple's pocket one day. The IPhone already has competition breathing down their neck from China and others. Oops sorry drifting off in business thoughts. It ain't rocket science give the customer what they want at a bargain price be it tools, clothes, food, massage with some nice tits. Or stay in the same tired old funk to pay the landlord every month which is the real winner. I like many remember when these stores were popping up like daisy's, OK so it ran its course and hit some bumps in the road with LE or whatever. But now it's the 3rd down and the team (store owners) are not on the field (willing to see the potential or change their business model). Yea there's the AAMP R&T / FS thing but it's the same prices with the same selection (age / looks) just the room looks different. Old saying those that don't take control of their destiny are doomed to let destiny decide. Pussy business 101.

Ruff and Ready
06-08-17, 09:40
Needless to say as many others have stated the first visit didn't allow much. The girl who's name started with an L seemed paranoid. I called for an appointment and the massage was not very good. 10 min on back, 10 minutes after the flip and then the rest of the one hour session was just rubbing my head and face. A little touch here and there with the towel draping me the entire time. Not sure if it is worth a revisit since she was asking for a tip. I'm thinking tip for what? Just the same. 6 plus. 1. Would have tipped more if she had provided a better massage regardless of how it might have ended.

JoeWeezer
06-08-17, 11:29
Just for context, I hit numi spa when it was first open and got the standard handshake. Well, I guess I was due for a bomb and it happened today. Sweet, no English gal (tina) that wanted to please, but had no skill set. Not a good massage, no tease at all, and definitely no handshake.

It's like she didn't even know the deal. I left. 4 on the table before the massage which is my standard practice. I left with it there because I didn't want to be a dick even though it was the worst experience I've had in the years I've been doing this.

Oh well. Lesson learned. Makes be think about Mimi or Amy and I really miss them now.
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I've been to Numi a couple of times recently, with the same girl for both. I found her massage skills were extraordinary. Up there with the best I've ever had. But, alas, no tease or hint of extras with either visit.

I've come to the conclusion that this place is good for the rub but not for the tug.

OldGuy54
06-08-17, 22:44
Hit up 0050 tonight. Good visit. PM me for details.

BlkNo13
06-08-17, 23:49
Needless to say as many others have stated the first visit didn't allow much. The girl who's name started with an L seemed paranoid. I called for an appointment and the massage was not very good. 10 min on back, 10 minutes after the flip and then the rest of the one hour session was just rubbing my head and face. A little touch here and there with the towel draping me the entire time. Not sure if it is worth a revisit since she was asking for a tip. I'm thinking tip for what? Just the same. 6 plus. 1. Would have tipped more if she had provided a better massage regardless of how it might have ended.How did she look? Old / young? Slim / Fat? Cute / busted? Did you make any passes on her or try to start any dialogue as to more on the menu?

Ruff and Ready
06-09-17, 11:29
How did she look? Old / young? Slim / Fat? Cute / busted? Did you make any passes on her or try to start any dialogue as to more on the menu?Young, about a 5, a little chubby and yes, there were indications more be available but most likely would require a few more visits.

MedJohnson
06-09-17, 16:34
Good visits at both. Better rub at 37.

Med.

OldGuy19
06-10-17, 00:51
Was an active member for a few years, lost my User I'd. Starting anew.

Since 45 re-opened I have gone back 4 times with different experiences.

1st Time. Tiny lady, very friendly, likes to laugh, overall good experience.

2nd Time. Same lady, even better b / c she was more familiar w / me.

3rd Time. Bigger lady, not fat, just bigger. One of best finishes I've had.

4th Time. Went today and had a different lady. Middle aged, rather bland. Massage was OK, did a unique think using her knees on my back and butt. Virtually no conversation, no real teasing except lightly touching my butt cheeks and legs for what seemed 20 minutes. On the flip. Right to negotiations. She wanted. 60 for a standard finish. Negotiated down and when she saw how my $ I had in my pocket she tried to grab more. Mediocre finish, no real teasing. After I just dressed and left. She obviously knew I wasn't pleased and kept trying to make it up. I told her, nope I don't want anything. No hugs, no kisses, no water, no candy. Just leave me alone and I'll make sure to tell my friends how you treat the clients. Good luck lady.

Sorry I didn't get her name, but if you pull a gal that doesn't talk, laugh, or flirt w / you in the first 2 minutes. Suggest you ask for another.

Too Badd
06-10-17, 11:01
I am curious for the ones that have massaged the ladies. Were you regulars and you knew them? Also curious if they undress at all for it, and if either or both of you left happy. Thanks!

TheShredSter66
06-10-17, 13:15
Says at simpkins rd which is a pretty private road, what do you guys think? AAMP or maybe something completely legit? I'd hate to check it out and get scammed or it be a sting as its fairly convenient to me.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/the-best-asian-health-treatment-at-garner-is-coming-soon/39443518

XHippie
06-10-17, 21:09
Says at simpkins rd which is a pretty private road, what do you guys think? AAMP or maybe something completely legit? I'd hate to check it out and get scammed or it be a sting as its fairly convenient to me.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/the-best-asian-health-treatment-at-garner-is-coming-soon/39443518Hard to tell with any new spot especially a AAMP, my knee jerk reaction to the ad is it's mighty wordy and proficient. (seriously no offense intended to any Asian person reading this) It just doesn't meet the standard AAMP profile ad, short sweet with sexy pictures with the words Grand Opening. And I don't know too many Asians that give advance notice that they are going to open that's a little strange. But that's not to say that it is not a new place and a legit ad. Whenever I check out a new place, I go in with 100% recon mindset NOT to bust a nut. I consider the door fee a loss and I tip the minimum. I get the minimum time they sell hopefully 30 minutes, and I just lay there and see what happens and pay close attention if I am asked certain questions. I don't touch a thing On her I let her direct the show, HOWEVER if she starts dropping fun touching hints I'll reply a little until we have confirmed with each other what the deal is. If I'm asked "what do I want" I never ask for sexual service. I reply "what do you offer". I let her make the offer and name the price!. I'm sure this is a AAMP ad, is it legit? Probably BUT this apartment environment is a perfect sting environment. No need to be paranoid but in an apartment for the first time and based on this professional worded ad with advance notice of their opening, I personally would be at least cautious. Who knows may turn out to be a great go to place let's hope so. But it will take a few TOFTT to confirm.

GovernorsClub
06-11-17, 11:13
I found it odd that there was an unusually long time for her to come to the room (not realizing it was a strategy session) and the door was kept open during the massage and the knees-on-back technique kept me from looking to my right as I thought someone came in the room during the massage and I tried to turn my head. When it was time to turn over, I noticed that my foldable wallet was no longer in my pants (hanging near the door) pocket but resting on the fold with half in the pocket and half out. Can't say how much was taken as I am inexperienced and don't keep track of how much I start with. I know. Not smart in this regard. Call it tuition. Didn't say anything and have not been back.


Was an active member for a few years, lost my User I'd. Starting anew.

Since 45 re-opened I have gone back 4 times with different experiences.

1st Time. Tiny lady, very friendly, likes to laugh, overall good experience.

2nd Time. Same lady, even better b / c she was more familiar w / me.

3rd Time. Bigger lady, not fat, just bigger. One of best finishes I've had.

4th Time. Went today and had a different lady. Middle aged, rather bland. Massage was OK, did a unique think using her knees on my back and butt. Virtually no conversation, no real teasing except lightly touching my butt cheeks and legs for what seemed 20 minutes. On the flip. Right to negotiations. She wanted. 60 for a standard finish. Negotiated down and when she saw how my $ I had in my pocket she tried to grab more. Mediocre finish, no real teasing. After I just dressed and left. She obviously knew I wasn't pleased and kept trying to make it up. I told her, nope I don't want anything. No hugs, no kisses, no water, no candy. Just leave me alone and I'll make sure to tell my friends how you treat the clients. Good luck lady.

Sorry I didn't get her name, but if you pull a gal that doesn't talk, laugh, or flirt w / you in the first 2 minutes. Suggest you ask for another.

XHippie
06-11-17, 19:42
I found it odd that there was an unusually long time for her to come to the room (not realizing it was a strategy session) and the door was kept open during the massage and the knees-on-back technique kept me from looking to my right as I thought someone came in the room during the massage and I tried to turn my head. When it was time to turn over, I noticed that my foldable wallet was no longer in my pants (hanging near the door) pocket but resting on the fold with half in the pocket and half out. Can't say how much was taken as I am inexperienced and don't keep track of how much I start with. I know. Not smart in this regard. Call it tuition. Didn't say anything and have not been back.If you got ripped off it's rare in a AMP because they (the owner) want to keep peace with the paying customer as much as possible. And it would be real ballsey for them to do it while you are in the room BUT definitely possible. Since I've been reading and posting on this board I think I've only heard this happening maybe once before. I use to only carry my car keys and cash in the room with me when I use to get table showers because I didn't want to leave my wallet, ID, credit cards, home address info etc. In the room while I was showering. But Due to a rash I got from a TS they are off my list free or not. If my memory serves me correct VIP will provide a plastic bag for personal items to take to the shower room. Some of these girls come to Hickville or wherever straight out of New York City where they learned a few tricks such as picking your pocket, bait and switch, cutting time short, up selling the horny American thinking with the little head. However It goes both ways they turn the tables on each other, my girlfriend is part of some kind of chat thing about the business On WeChat. She told me recently that this girl worked in a store for ONE FUCKING DAY and disappeared that day with $20,000 cash, now I would have been pissed. I can't name the store, but this happened to a store in Raleigh a few years ago that I'm friends with, this owner was ripped off $50,000 cash. Why keep this much cash laying around? That's another post subject. So these owners are just as cautious with their employees as we are. My advice is don't try to impress these ladies by wearing nice jewelry and a fat wallet in the store, leave the expensive cell phone in the car and shut the fuck up LOL, I live in a nice house I drive blah blah My work is Blah blah blah. . Don't give her the impression you are Trump. But seriously Like I said it's rare you will become a victim in one of these AMP's, but what you should really only have on you is cash needed for the visit THAT YOU CAN KEEP AN EYE ON. It's simple. Door fee, massage, HE, tip, leave. Don't bring any extra baggage in with you literally, use common sense and keep what valuables / cash you do bring in view.. Now BP girls requires even more research & protection. Are the 0045 new girls straight out of NY tag teaming a customer if they sense he's a rookie? Time will tell, IF YES they will get spotted by someone that's seen this game.

FordDiesel250
06-12-17, 07:15
I am curious for the ones that have massaged the ladies. Were you regulars and you knew them? Also curious if they undress at all for it, and if either or both of you left happy. Thanks!Most of the time the girls rotate in and out so much very seldom would you have known them from before unless you go every week or every other week. They rotate about 3 to 4 weeks. I leave the money on the table for the tip. They never even look at it or count it but she knows its there. I always wait till after the table shower, some guys don't like it but I do because I like to show her that I'm clean. Back to the room and when she wants me to lay face down then ask her if I can give her a massage. Sometimes you get strange looks from her. Never been turned down though. Then the fun begins. I tell her to lay face down. Treat them like you want to be treated. Then see what happens.

FordDiesel250
06-12-17, 07:34
If you got ripped off it's rare in a AMP because they (the owner) want to keep peace with the paying customer as much as possible. And it would be real ballsey for them to do it while you are in the room BUT definitely possible. Since I've been reading and posting on this board I think I've only heard this happening maybe once before. I use to only carry my car keys and cash in the room with me when I use to get table showers because I didn't want to leave my wallet, ID, credit cards, home address info etc. In the room while I was showering. But Due to a rash I got from a TS they are off my list free or not. If my memory serves me correct VIP will provide a plastic bag for personal items to take to the shower room. Some of these girls come to Hickville or wherever straight out of New York City where they learned a few tricks such as picking your pocket, bait and switch, cutting time short, up selling the horny American thinking with the little head. However It goes both ways they turn the tables on each other, my girlfriend is part of some kind of chat thing about the business On WeChat. She told me recently that this girl worked in a store for ONE FUCKING DAY and disappeared that day with $20,000 cash, now I would have been pissed. I can't name the store, but this happened to a store in Raleigh a few years ago that I'm friends with, this owner was ripped off $50,000 cash. Why keep this much cash laying around? That's another post subject. So these owners are just as cautious with their employees as we are. My advice is don't try to impress these ladies by wearing nice jewelry and a fat wallet in the store, leave the expensive cell phone in the car and shut the fuck up LOL, I live in a nice house I drive blah blah My work is Blah blah blah..I have never been worried at my go to AMP. But I never carry more than necessary either. Sometimes bright shiny things temp people. Never take wallet, watch, phone, knife, etc. I have had several girls ask "you married". And more than once they have told me they are looking a husband. Rich husband. Well that left me out right there. Now if I were younger and not married ooops did I say that out loud, I have several girls that would have made a good wife. Pretty, good personality, and love to please their man, even if was for a short while. I like my go to spot and even do mamma some favors like taking her to the post office because the car was broke and she had a package from her sister, picking her up a pack of cigs and bringing them back. She has even fixed me lunch. Build a relationship with them of trust, loyalty, friendship because it goes a long way. I like to take flowers too. All women love flowers just don't take yellow anything not even roses. These women are looking for the same things we are. Kindness, companionship, attention, LOVE, money, better life, etc. Find a place that works for you and stick with them. Sometimes you have to go several times to see what each girl specializes in. Sensual massage, back walking, deep tissue, the flip, ohhh the flip.

FordDiesel250
06-12-17, 11:01
If you got ripped off it's rare in a AMP because they (the owner) want to keep peace with the paying customer as much as possible. And it would be real ballsey for them to do it while you are in the room BUT definitely possible. Since I've been reading and posting on this board I think I've only heard this happening maybe once before. I use to only carry my car keys and cash in the room with me when I use to get table showers because I didn't want to leave my wallet, ID, credit cards, home address info etc. In the room while I was showering. But Due to a rash I got from a TS they are off my list free or not. If my memory serves me correct VIP will provide a plastic bag for personal items to take to the shower room. Some of these girls come to Hickville or wherever straight out of New York City where they learned a few tricks such as picking your pocket, bait and switch, cutting time short, up selling the horny American thinking with the little head. However It goes both ways they turn the tables on each other, my girlfriend is part of some kind of chat thing about the business On WeChat. She told me recently that this girl worked in a store for ONE FUCKING DAY and disappeared that day with $20,000 cash, now I would have been pissed. I can't name the store, but this happened to a store in Raleigh a few years ago that I'm friends with, this owner was ripped off $50,000 cash. Why keep this much cash laying around? That's another post subject. So these owners are just as cautious with their employees as we are. My advice is don't try to impress these ladies by wearing nice jewelry and a fat wallet in the store, leave the expensive cell phone in the car and shut the fuck up LOL, I live in a nice house I drive blah blah My work is Blah blah blah. . Don't give her the impression you are Trump. But seriously Like I said it's rare you will become a victim in one of these AMP's, but what you should really only have on you is cash needed for the visit THAT YOU CAN KEEP AN EYE ON. It's simple. Door fee, massage, HE, tip, leave. Don't bring any extra baggage in with you literally, use common sense and keep what valuables / cash you do bring in view.. Now BP girls requires even more research & protection. Are the 0045 new girls straight out of NY tag teaming a customer if they sense he's a rookie? Time will tell, IF YES they will get spotted by someone that's seen this game.I agree, I never take my watch, wallet, or too much money. I have never had a problem either. The AMP I go to you might say I'm a regular. Mamma has gotten to know me by name and I hers. The girls rotate out or "go on vacation" every three to four weeks, so there is a constant flow of girls. I stick to my regular AMP because I have built a reputation there. So I feel like XHIPPIE that they would never allow that because of reputation also.

FordDiesel250
06-12-17, 11:11
I am curious for the ones that have massaged the ladies. Were you regulars and you knew them? Also curious if they undress at all for it, and if either or both of you left happy. Thanks!The AMP I go to you might say I'm a regular. Mamma has gotten to know me by name and I hers. I like to bring the girls flowers. What girl does not like flowers? The girls rotate out or go on vacation every three to four weeks, so there is a constant flow of girls. I stick to my regular AMP because I have built a reputation there. The girls are looking for the same things we are, companionship, attention, a better life, money, love. I treat them like I want to be treated and it usually turns out good. If I know a girl has a nice body and good attitude, I leave my usual money on the table and get ready for the table shower. They never count it or look at it but, she knows it's there. I like the table shower to show her I'm clean. When we get back to the room and she tells me to lay face down, I ask her to lay face down. Sometimes I get a surprised look. Never been turned down though. I like to start at their feet because they stand a lot. Get them to relax and it turns out great for me.

FordDiesel250
06-13-17, 06:45
The AMP I go to you might say I'm a regular. Mamma has gotten to know me by name and I hers. I like to bring the girls flowers. What girl does not like flowers? The girls rotate out or go on vacation every three to four weeks, so there is a constant flow of girls. I stick to my regular AMP because I have built a reputation there. The girls are looking for the same things we are, companionship, attention, a better life, money, love. I treat them like I want to be treated and it usually turns out good. If I know a girl has a nice body and good attitude, I leave my usual money on the table and get ready for the table shower. They never count it or look at it but, she knows it's there. I like the table shower to show her I'm clean. When we get back to the room and she tells me to lay face down, I ask her to lay face down. Sometimes I get a surprised look. Never been turned down though. I like to start at their feet because they stand a lot. Get them to relax and it turns out great for me.Ok I'm a dumbazz, sorry for the multiple post. I didn't think it saved them.

Lookin Good
06-13-17, 16:24
Ok I'm a dumbazz, sorry for the multiple post. I didn't think it saved them.But I've seen several lately get confused as to why their post didn't get "saved". When you're a Regular Member your posts must be approved by a mod before they're seen. Once you're deemed a Senior Member by the mods, your posts show up immediately. Enjoy!

GeniePants
06-14-17, 06:39
Get this; I was driving down Capital the other day, and I happened to glance towards Holly Tree plaza when, to my surprise, the neon "Massage" sign in the window of 0007 was lit. That's all I know, didn't have time for intel, but it seems like 0007 Asian is back in business.

FordDiesel250
06-14-17, 07:19
The AMP I go to you might say I'm a regular. Mamma has gotten to know me by name and I hers. I like to bring the girls flowers. What girl does not like flowers? The girls rotate out or go on vacation every three to four weeks, so there is a constant flow of girls. I stick to my regular AMP because I have built a reputation there. The girls are looking for the same things we are, companionship, attention, a better life, money, love. I treat them like I want to be treated and it usually turns out good. If I know a girl has a nice body and good attitude, I leave my usual money on the table and get ready for the table shower. They never count it or look at it but, she knows it's there. I like the table shower to show her I'm clean. When we get back to the room and she tells me to lay face down, I ask her to lay face down. Sometimes I get a surprised look. Never been turned down though. I like to start at their feet because they stand a lot. Get them to relax and it turns out great for me.Well, got turn down for the first time yesterday for trying to give her a message. She said she does not like for anyone to touch her WTF? It was the second time I had seen her even. I guess that's what happens when you brag about not ever been turned down haha. Oh well still turn out to be fun anyway. Again sorry about multiple post the other day. Thanks Lookin Good for the info. Alot of good info on here!

Maxamillion8
06-14-17, 16:05
Went to 37 as some of you were talking about it. I was greeted by a lady in 40's or early 50's about 6 in looks. Very tiny hands so the massage was below average. She was just running her hands on my back randomly. After 5 minutes I was bombarded with all personal questions. Well, Massage was not going well, thought talking may cheer her up and may be menu MAY open up. But no luck there. So after about 20 minutes, I asked her that I am going to flip as my back started burning. As soon as I flipped she told me 60 tip, I have already paid 70 entry and 20 minutes I am flipped. I thought with this service I am not going to go for it. So I refused and she started rubbing with good intentions and gave me offer at 40 which I was ok with. Quick mechanical finish. No water or anything I walked out.

After that I thought, If everyone got good service, maybe I got the wrong girl. A friend of mine asked me a place and I suggested and also shared my story. He went there to try his luck but the results were same as me.

Also, a fellow member has reviewed a provider on The Other site in Carolinas section of Durham provider. We texted and made there next day. The whole story was bogus and she told me that she will not do anything on the first visit and no touching allowed, plus full clothed. I asked her how many visits she needs to feel comfortable and I was told MAYBE 5 to 6 visits with a twisted face. I asked her what's the price and she told me 180. I told her good luck and walked out of her place.

So my thoughts are how come you guys really liked this place? Are we bringing our satisfaction standards down due to a shortage of locations? Our expectations have decreased.

PartTimeMonger
06-16-17, 01:39
Hey guys, just had a quick question. For some reason whenever I go to VIP (2 times now), I've been turned away by the mamasan because I'm too young? I've been to other AMPs and haven't had this problem at all.

FordDiesel250
06-16-17, 10:51
Hey guys, just had a quick question. For some reason whenever I go to VIP (2 times now), I've been turned away by the mamasan because I'm too young? I've been to other AMPs and haven't had this problem at all.How old do you look haha and what time did you go?

MickeyMic
06-16-17, 11:49
Hey guys, just had a quick question. For some reason whenever I go to VIP (2 times now), I've been turned away by the mamasan because I'm too young? I've been to other AMPs and haven't had this problem at all.Are you too young, or do you have a tendency to look too young to some people?

MickeyMic
06-16-17, 12:01
Any intel on this one?

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/stress-relief/36252358

She deletes her posts, so you can find her with this: 919-830-3513.

TheSting24
06-16-17, 13:27
Avoid; there is MUCH better out there. Dirty house, cats climbing all over you, poor quality rub. You've been warned.

TS.


Any intel on this one?

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/stress-relief/36252358

She deletes her posts, so you can find her with this: 919-830-3513.

MickeyMic
06-16-17, 13:37
Avoid; there is MUCH better out there. Dirty house, cats climbing all over you, poor quality rub. You've been warned.

TS.Much appreciated. Thank you.

PartTimeMonger
06-16-17, 15:58
Are you too young, or do you have a tendency to look too young to some people?I'd say I look too young as I do have a bit of a baby face.

Agrego
06-16-17, 17:23
Was in Knightdale recently with some free time to kill.

Wanted to stop in at 0051 but there was an Uncle parked there for a substantial amount of time and decided not to deal with it. I moved on to a place just around the corner and ended up visiting 0050.

I hope to check out Zen when I'm in the area again, assuming they are still in business, hard to predict the fate of a lot of these places.

Had a great TS and massage at Rainbow Spa and would return in a heart beat. Standard tip, maybe an extra $10, I don't recall. One thing I found odd / funny is the spa was playing instrumental Christmas songs and occasionally I found my self going over the lyrics in my head.

Get out there before they close or service changes.

TheAmazing
06-16-17, 20:56
Was in Knightdale recently with some free time to kill.

Wanted to stop in at 0051 but there was an Uncle parked there for a substantial amount of time and decided not to deal with it. I moved on to a place just around the corner and ended up visiting 0050.

I hope to check out Zen when I'm in the area again, assuming they are still in business, hard to predict the fate of a lot of these places.

Had a great TS and massage at Rainbow Spa and would return in a heart beat. Standard tip, maybe an extra $10, I don't recall. One thing I found odd / funny is the spa was playing instrumental Christmas songs and occasionally I found my self going over the lyrics in my head.

Get out there before they close or service changes.How would you rate the looks of the girls at Rainbow? PM if preferred.

Thanks.

XHippie
06-16-17, 20:57
Hey guys, just had a quick question. For some reason whenever I go to VIP (2 times now), I've been turned away by the mamasan because I'm too young? I've been to other AMPs and haven't had this problem at all.If it's one thing I know about business in general especially Asian business and massage business in general with all the competition that is, NEVER turn away a paying customer. Unless there is a reason! Being turned away because you look too young is like getting checked if you buy alcohol or tobacco products it's common. Difference is your ID get's checked buying alcohol and tobacco you got turned away because she new better than to ask for your personal ID showing name, address etc. Always another swinging dick vs letting a minor dipping his wick. Odd thing is I've seen some Asian girls in their 20's & 30's I've turned down because they looked 13. Mamasan saying No No they are old enough but I refused works both ways. I've read over a few years period that VIP turn down one guy because he looked like a cop according to him (what does a cop look like?) Another black guy said he was turned away he felt because he was black guess he didn't look like a cop. I'm not sure if any of this meant they were being really selective, over cautious or prejudice or all 3 because there didn't seam to be an on going pattern there with other customers based on no one posting further complaints. You May be just have had bad luck of the draw, wish I had some of that youth problem.

TheAmazing
06-16-17, 21:22
Had an awesome therapeutic massage at sunrise recently (0015 on JJ's list posted in the Raleigh user blog area). Highly recommended for when you are in need of an asian massage to repair your back. All of that being said, my neck doesn't feel much better. I forgot to verify, but the table felt like 2 x4's and plywood though mostly comfortable.

Still searching for that pot o' gold where therapeutic meets sensual. Have fun and be safe.

Purple45
06-17-17, 01:09
Hey guys, just had a quick question. For some reason whenever I go to VIP (2 times now), I've been turned away by the mamasan because I'm too young? I've been to other AMPs and haven't had this problem at all.


If it's one thing I know about business in general especially Asian business and massage business in general with all the competition that is, NEVER turn away a paying customer. Unless there is a reason! Being turned away because you look too young is like getting checked if you buy alcohol or tobacco products it's common. Difference is your ID get's checked buying alcohol and tobacco you got turned away because she new better than to ask for your personal ID showing name, address etc. Always another swinging dick vs letting a minor dipping his wick. Odd thing is I've seen some Asian girls in their 20's & 30's I've turned down because they looked 13. Mamasan saying No No they are old enough but I refused works both ways. I've read over a few years period that VIP turn down one guy because he looked like a cop according to him (what does a cop look like?) Another black guy said he was turned away he felt because he was black guess he didn't look like a cop. I'm not sure if any of this meant they were being really selective, over cautious or prejudice or all 3 because there didn't seam to be an on going pattern there with other customers based on no one posting further complaints. You May be just have had bad luck of the draw, wish I had some of that youth problem.It's not because you look young. Several others over the years have also been turned away. In their defence, while other rub and tug places have closed but not VIP. They have longevity because Mamasan is cautious. Even when people get in the door on their visit they shouldn't except anything more than the standard finish. Now IMO some past girls were not comfortable with certain races so Mamasan turned away some to respect the girl's choice. My advice is don't give up! Try not shaving for a few days but still have a clean appearance and don't look serious just be yourself and smile.

GutterBall
06-17-17, 08:26
Had an awesome therapeutic massage at sunrise recently (0015 on JJ's list posted in the Raleigh user blog area). Highly recommended for when you are in need of an asian massage to repair your back. All of that being said, my neck doesn't feel much better. I forgot to verify, but the table felt like 2 x4's and plywood though mostly comfortable.

Still searching for that pot o' gold where therapeutic meets sensual. Have fun and be safe.Will be in Ral. For business this week. Would you recommend this place for the traveling salesman? How is the 'hood? What is the damage?

If you are ever in WS thy Regiman Spa, service is OK with HE. Damage usually $.

MudFlaps
06-17-17, 10:45
Headed to your area Monday and wanted to get some quick recommendations for your neck of the woods. Who's the best to check out right now?

TheAmazing
06-17-17, 11:25
Will be in Ral. For business this week. Would you recommend this place for the traveling salesman? How is the 'hood? What is the damage?

If you are ever in WS thy Regiman Spa, service is OK with HE. Damage usually $.The neighborhood is absolutely fine! $70 for an hour + tip. I would recommend if you're not looking for extras (though YMMV).

If you go back to the Raleigh page go halfway down to the user blog section. Find JJ's list and look for the last post from Jimjim to find the list of AMPs with rating codes if you're into extras.

Then check the last month of reviews here to see what may have closed since JJ's last update.

P.S. Ocean Care Spa is another great (legit) therapeutic massage place also in a safe part of town.

Have fun!

PartTimeMonger
06-17-17, 12:10
It's not because you look young. Several others over the years have also been turned away. In their defence, while other rub and tug places have closed but not VIP. They have longevity because Mamasan is cautious. Even when people get in the door on their visit they shouldn't except anything more than the standard finish. Now IMO some past girls were not comfortable with certain races so Mamasan turned away some to respect the girl's choice. My advice is don't give up! Try not shaving for a few days but still have a clean appearance and don't look serious just be yourself and smile.Thanks for the advice everyone. I will definitely keep trying as I have been curious about VIP for awhile now.

TimmyB
06-17-17, 16:04
I found it odd that there was an unusually long time for her to come to the room (not realizing it was a strategy session) and the door was kept open during the massage and the knees-on-back technique kept me from looking to my right as I thought someone came in the room during the massage and I tried to turn my head. When it was time to turn over, I noticed that my foldable wallet was no longer in my pants (hanging near the door) pocket but resting on the fold with half in the pocket and half out. Can't say how much was taken as I am inexperienced and don't keep track of how much I start with. I know. Not smart in this regard. Call it tuition. Didn't say anything and have not been back.It's likely nothing was taken but they were checking to see how much you had. Its happened to me where someone went into my wallet while I was in the TS and I always know how much I go in with. Since then the wallet (and I'd) stay in the car and I just take in my cash.

TheShredSter66
06-17-17, 17:21
Posted a feeler about this place a week or so ago. Now they say they're open. If the address is correct, its an older country house that was just bought in January as per the realtor sites. May be a good place if its legit. If anyone knows more send me a pm as I'm curious.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/ying-yang-health-now-is-open-at-garner/39918853

Old Sparky
06-18-17, 08:40
1st time poster so bear with me. I'm posting so I will eventually be able to get responses to my occasional questions about particular providers- fair is fair. I rode by the place and saw it was an older remolded house with a two story detached shop. There is a medium sized ying / yang sign out in the yard. The parking is exposed to the street so if you have a memorable vehicle it can be seen by anyone driving past. I called the number and spoke to a man with a slight accent. He gave standard rates HH. 5 & HR. 7, we set a time. A few minutes later he called back and asked to change the time a little, I agreed. Arrived a few minutes early, knocked on door, lady answered eventually. Could see at least two rooms set up from where I waited. I could tell by the sandals at each door. The house has been remodeled and was clean. The lady appeared to be middle aged but I'm never sure, with a slim Asian build but a nicer butt than I'm used to seeing. Table was a standard AMP plywood table with sheets and minimal padding but she did spread a clean bath towel out on top. Offered a shower but I declined. Massage was decent not spectacular. She used her knees and legs alot which to me is a sign that her shoulders and back were tired. Very light touch random teasing till I responded a little then a bit more deliberate. Flipped, standard minimal negotiations for a first visit, left happy. I could tell this wasn't her first time and was good enough so that I will return to see what's on the menu over time.

I did not see anyone else while I was there but I got the impression someone was at the other end of the house. My normal place is Nana on hwy 42. So far Nana is better but I like to give new places a chance.

Change


Posted a feeler about this place a week or so ago. Now they say they're open. If the address is correct, its an older country house that was just bought in January as per the realtor sites. May be a good place if its legit. If anyone knows more send me a pm as I'm curious.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/ying-yang-health-now-is-open-at-garner/39918853.

Shamrock7
06-18-17, 15:13
Thanks for the advice everyone. I will definitely keep trying as I have been curious about VIP for awhile now.Do not feel bad. I've been going to VIP for a decade, more, since it opened. Three previous trip by BUSY BUSY maybe 2-3 hours! (WTF). Then I finally get in and I was interrogated asking to drop names which I'm horrible with. Then I was charged. 80 for 45 min (WTF). In the room new girl one of best looking ever seen at an AMP. Told me get on table, then I asked for a table shower she took me, and worst ts there ever!. So back to the room immediately she tells me only massage new management I'm like (WTF) again!. So as normal I say no oil no lotion and she breaks out some old sheet which I've seen other places before and hate. So I complained about the sheet to no avail. Then she cuts massage short when I tell her I don't want scalp massage, she sayes DONE GET DRESSED (WTF). I get out my $ hand her. 20 and said thanks for the non effort. Wow it was so bad I use to get treated great there always. I'm just sad by this normally spend 2. 4 there and leave very happy. Worst AMP experience of my life!

NeedsSome
06-19-17, 07:57
I was needing a little stress relief the other night so I stopped by #40. First time I had been at this location. I was impressed on the cleanliness. I could tell that the sheet covering the table was freshly cleaned as well as the towels. My attended was very friendly and accommodating. I enjoy a strong massage which she was able to provide. I got a little more than my full hour. Over all the experience was great. I would highly recommend and will defiantly be returning for future visits.

FordDiesel250
06-19-17, 08:06
Do not feel bad. I've been going to VIP for a decade, more, since it opened. Three previous trip by BUSY BUSY maybe 2-3 hours! (WTF). Then I finally get in and I was interrogated asking to drop names which I'm horrible with. Then I was charged. 80 for 45 min (WTF). In the room new girl one of best looking ever seen at an AMP. Told me get on table, then I asked for a table shower she took me, and worst ts there ever!. So back to the room immediately she tells me only massage new management I'm like (WTF) again!. So as normal I say no oil no lotion and she breaks out some old sheet which I've seen other places before and hate. So I complained about the sheet to no avail. Then she cuts massage short when I tell her I don't want scalp massage, she sayes DONE GET DRESSED (WTF). I get out my $ hand her. 20 and said thanks for the non effort. Wow it was so bad I use to get treated great there always. I'm just sad by this normally spend 2. 4 there and leave very happy. Worst AMP experience of my life!Don't worry new girl coming on 23rd. One, like one, two, three is the one there now and she has rules. Oh well I guess all have some and some more than others. They do advertise. 80 for 45 minutes. I thought I was getting cheated also a time or two until I looked at the add. She does have a pretty butt though.

XHippie
06-19-17, 08:40
I was needing a little stress relief the other night so I stopped by #40. First time I had been at this location. I was impressed on the cleanliness. I could tell that the sheet covering the table was freshly cleaned as well as the towels. My attended was very friendly and accommodating. I enjoy a strong massage which she was able to provide. I got a little more than my full hour. Over all the experience was great. I would highly recommend and will defiantly be returning for future visits.This place has actually surprised me, When it first opened up I thought it wouldn't last due to strong competition and the location was in a average plaza. But to my surprise they have out lasted some of the stores that were raking in the customers such as WestGate, ATSU in Cary and all the stores on busy Capitol Blvd. Etc. I've got to hand it to them Apple has been consistent. The benefit for us when these stores have slow days which they all do now is they are eager to make that tip money AND they have nothing else to do but sit and wait for customers. So to stay busy they are constantly cleaning the store. And since they don't have customer after customer they change the sheets after each visit which is the way it should be. I'm always looking for that silver lining!!

FordDiesel250
06-19-17, 12:47
This place has actually surprised me, When it first opened up I thought it wouldn't last due to strong competition and the location was in a average plaza. But to my surprise they have out lasted some of the stores that were raking in the customers such as WestGate, ATSU in Cary and all the stores on busy Capitol Blvd. Etc. I've got to hand it to them Apple has been consistent. The benefit for us when these stores have slow days which they all do now is they are eager to make that tip money AND they have nothing else to do but sit and wait for customers. So to stay busy they are constantly cleaning the store. And since they don't have customer after customer they change the sheets after each visit which is the way it should be. I'm always looking for that silver lining!!Yes and mamma told me they are slow during the summer when it is hot. I have noticed they are changing the sheets when I'm leaving.

MeamRed
06-19-17, 13:53
Do not feel bad. I've been going to VIP for a decade, more, since it opened. Three previous trip by BUSY BUSY maybe 2-3 hours! (WTF). Then I finally get in and I was interrogated asking to drop names which I'm horrible with. Then I was charged. 80 for 45 min (WTF). In the room new girl one of best looking ever seen at an AMP. Told me get on table, then I asked for a table shower she took me, and worst ts there ever!. So back to the room immediately she tells me only massage new management I'm like (WTF) again!. So as normal I say no oil no lotion and she breaks out some old sheet which I've seen other places before and hate. So I complained about the sheet to no avail. Then she cuts massage short when I tell her I don't want scalp massage, she sayes DONE GET DRESSED (WTF). I get out my $ hand her. 20 and said thanks for the non effort. Wow it was so bad I use to get treated great there always. I'm just sad by this normally spend 2. 4 there and leave very happy. Worst AMP experience of my life!IMO, the place is great for hot Asian girls, and typically good for one thing only. It is far, TS is pretty bad, massage is expensive, and mediocre at the best. I did not find the hygiene to be an issue though.

Spaceball1
06-19-17, 14:02
Do not feel bad. I've been going to VIP for a decade, more, since it opened. Three previous trip by BUSY BUSY maybe 2-3 hours! (WTF). Then I finally get in and I was interrogated asking to drop names which I'm horrible with. Then I was charged. 80 for 45 min (WTF). In the room new girl one of best looking ever seen at an AMP. Told me get on table, then I asked for a table shower she took me, and worst ts there ever!. So back to the room immediately she tells me only massage new management I'm like (WTF) again!. So as normal I say no oil no lotion and she breaks out some old sheet which I've seen other places before and hate. So I complained about the sheet to no avail. Then she cuts massage short when I tell her I don't want scalp massage, she sayes DONE GET DRESSED (WTF). I get out my $ hand her. 20 and said thanks for the non effort. Wow it was so bad I use to get treated great there always. I'm just sad by this normally spend 2. 4 there and leave very happy. Worst AMP experience of my life!You got shitty service, shorted on time, and no HE, yet you still handed her a Jackson!? That is the most WTF part of your whole post to me. No wonder prices are going up and the level of service is going down. With people like you around, there is zero incentive for these people to provide even the bare minimum.

Pubb69
06-19-17, 18:16
You got shitty service, shorted on time, and no HE, yet you still handed her a Jackson!? That is the most WTF part of your whole post to me. No wonder prices are going up and the level of service is going down. With people like you around, there is zero incentive for these people to provide even the bare minimum.On the other side of the coin, some of these women are the cheapest people alive. Do you think they tip anyone in their lives regardless of good service? Just look at some of the incentives some of these places offer like $5 off your 10th visit (health massage in Morrisville) LOL.

XHippie
06-19-17, 20:19
You got shitty service, shorted on time, and no HE, yet you still handed her a Jackson!? That is the most WTF part of your whole post to me. No wonder prices are going up and the level of service is going down. With people like you around, there is zero incentive for these people to provide even the bare minimum.I love making analogies. The massage & restaurant business is very similar as far a attracting customers. The better the menu the more you pay. The more crowded the parking lot is & favorable reviews the more likely one is to hit the brakes and pull in the parking lot or at least give it a try. If service exceeds the prices and the place offers a quality product in a clean establishment the more likely one is to become a repeat customer to enjoy an evening of DATY. And as mentioned if the business can outlast their competition such as Apple has maybe just maybe they can learn if they are smart and give the customer what they really want. Until then visit & tip your choice accordingly this will force them to re-evaluate their service. Food business Pussy business it's all the same IMO.

XHippie
06-19-17, 20:31
You got shitty service, shorted on time, and no HE, yet you still handed her a Jackson!? That is the most WTF part of your whole post to me. No wonder prices are going up and the level of service is going down. With people like you around, there is zero incentive for these people to provide even the bare minimum.I love making analogies. The massage & restaurant business is very similar as far a attracting customers. The better the menu the more you pay. The more crowded the parking lot is & favorable reviews the more likely one is to hit the brakes and pull in the parking lot or at least give it a try. If service exceeds the prices and the place offers a quality product in a clean establishment the more likely one is to become a repeat customer to enjoy an evening of DATY. And as mentioned if the business can outlast their competition such as Apple has maybe just maybe they can learn if they are smart and give the customer what they really want. Until then visit & tip your choice accordingly this will force them to re-evaluate their service. Food business Pussy business it's all the same IMO.

Squiggy6969
06-19-17, 21:31
I can attest that #45 is open. I stopped by today to get a hh. 5. I thought I try it out to see what it is like. The middle age women that greeted me at the door spoke good English and was attractive in my opinion. Heck I am a sucker for a nice rack. Anyway the massage stated like normal toward the time to flip there was some teasing which I told her I liked and she kept on. I finally got to a point that I needed to flip and told her so. Like I said she was nice and I left happy and otc roaming was allowed after I asked, standard tip was giving. Hot towel treatment, water, and a hug before leaving. Great first visit. Place looked clean and inviting. Thin walls so you can hear others. Clean sheets as far as I can tell.

Squiggy6969
06-19-17, 21:39
So I went looking for this place today. I could not find it on JJ's list nor could I find it by going to the address. The address get you to a building that has several occupants, none of which were opened when I arrived nor did any look like an AMP. Is it the wrong address or has this place since closed and the ad just popped up here recently.

Squiggy6969
06-19-17, 21:40
Sorry forgot the link.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-sweet-staff-no-1-choice-919-756-9274/40060288

Purple45
06-20-17, 10:50
So I went looking for this place today. I could not find it on JJ's list nor could I find it by going to the address. The address get you to a building that has several occupants, none of which were opened when I arrived nor did any look like an AMP. Is it the wrong address or has this place since closed and the ad just popped up here recently.


Sorry forgot the link.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-sweet-staff-no-1-choice-919-756-9274/40060288You are at the right location according to Google. The place has to be one of the four businesses in that building.

JJ's list is on hold for updates due to the fact the area has not stabilized yet from the recent mass closings.

Purple45
06-20-17, 11:09
I saw two ladies at 0033 and neither were my type. I saw one lady at 0051 and she wasn't my type either. Nothing bad to say except I like the ladies to be younger. By the looks of two ladies, junior would rather stay asleep. Massage was ok and both places asked on the flip but I declined.

DamThat
06-20-17, 11:45
I'm black and I'm a regular for 4 yrs now.

MickeyMic
06-20-17, 12:14
So I went looking for this place today. I could not find it on JJ's list nor could I find it by going to the address. The address get you to a building that has several occupants, none of which were opened when I arrived nor did any look like an AMP. Is it the wrong address or has this place since closed and the ad just popped up here recently.


Sorry forgot the link.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-sweet-staff-no-1-choice-919-756-9274/40060288I called and they told me #104 is the suite number.

Jimjim77
06-20-17, 14:44
0055 Rose, Suite 104.

2402 S Miami Blvd, Durham.

☎Tel: 919-756-9274.

🕘: 9 am--10 pm (7 days).


You are at the right location according to Google. The place has to be one of the four businesses in that building.

JJ's list is on hold for updates due to the fact the area has not stabilized yet from the recent mass closings.

TheShredSter66
06-20-17, 19:11
This place has actually surprised me, When it first opened up I thought it wouldn't last due to strong competition and the location was in a average plaza. But to my surprise they have out lasted some of the stores that were raking in the customers such as WestGate, ATSU in Cary and all the stores on busy Capitol Blvd. Etc. I've got to hand it to them Apple has been consistent. The benefit for us when these stores have slow days which they all do now is they are eager to make that tip money AND they have nothing else to do but sit and wait for customers. So to stay busy they are constantly cleaning the store. And since they don't have customer after customer they change the sheets after each visit which is the way it should be. I'm always looking for that silver lining!!0040 is the sister business to 0010 as far as I understand. Tried to stop in at 0010 a while back and they were busy, so she said "go to the other place, green apple. " They are walking distance apart with 0029 half way. I tend to wind up at 0029, I'm a big fan of the TS, and the girls were cuter there IMO.

JoyForEvr
06-20-17, 22:42
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/6184102864.html

Has anyoe tried? I called for appointment left voicemail but never got call back or any response.

Brucea06
06-21-17, 07:05
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/6184102864.html

Has anyoe tried? I called for appointment left voicemail but never got call back or any response.She offers massage only, don't mention any extras or you will be out the door!

MickeyMic
06-21-17, 08:52
She offers massage only, don't mention any extras or you will be out the door!That's too bad, cause she is absolutely stunning.

MickeyMic
06-21-17, 08:56
This place has actually surprised me, When it first opened up I thought it wouldn't last due to strong competition and the location was in a average plaza. But to my surprise they have out lasted some of the stores that were raking in the customers such as WestGate, ATSU in Cary and all the stores on busy Capitol Blvd. Etc. I've got to hand it to them Apple has been consistent. The benefit for us when these stores have slow days which they all do now is they are eager to make that tip money AND they have nothing else to do but sit and wait for customers. So to stay busy they are constantly cleaning the store. And since they don't have customer after customer they change the sheets after each visit which is the way it should be. I'm always looking for that silver lining!!Surprised me too actually. Went there looking for Koreans, but the lady I got was Chinese. She was on the older side but really pretty. Her massage was decent with light teasing throughout, and the finish was standard, but one of the best standards I'd ever had. If I lived in Cary, this would be a goto for sure.

Purple45
06-21-17, 09:29
1st time poster so bear with me. I'm posting so I will eventually be able to get responses to my occasional questions about particular providers- fair is fair. I rode by the place and saw it was an older remolded house with a two story detached shop. There is a medium sized ying / yang sign out in the yard. The parking is exposed to the street so if you have a memorable vehicle it can be seen by anyone driving past. I called the number and spoke to a man with a slight accent. He gave standard rates HH. 5 & HR. 7, we set a time. A few minutes later he called back and asked to change the time a little, I agreed. Arrived a few minutes early, knocked on door, lady answered eventually. Could see at least two rooms set up from where I waited. I could tell by the sandals at each door. The house has been remodeled and was clean. The lady appeared to be middle aged but I'm never sure, with a slim Asian build but a nicer butt than I'm used to seeing. Table was a standard AMP plywood table with sheets and minimal padding but she did spread a clean bath towel out on top. Offered a shower but I declined. Massage was decent not spectacular. She used her knees and legs alot which to me is a sign that her shoulders and back were tired. Very light touch random teasing till I responded a little then a bit more deliberate. Flipped, standard minimal negotiations for a first visit, left happy. I could tell this wasn't her first time and was good enough so that I will return to see what's on the menu over time.

I did not see anyone else while I was there but I got the impression someone was at the other end of the house. My normal place is Nana on hwy 42. So far Nana is better but I like to give new places a chance.

Change.I drove by the new place but didn't stop. I think a massage business that operates in its own building has a better chance to remain open than those in a strip mall. Complaints from other nearby business owners is a massage business killer.

Speaking of Nana they are reliable and the only good option for an Asian massage in Johnston County. They have three women working and I've seen two of them. The massage was good, no hassle and standard finish.

0012 - Closed.

0025 - Open (Formly SuperRelax but name changed to Nana)

0038 - Closed.

Pgrandis54
06-21-17, 21:00
0055 Rose, Suite 104.

2402 S Miami Blvd, Durham.

☎Tel: 919-756-9274.

🕘: 9 am--10 pm (7 days).Went by the other day. Called and got suite number. Went by 2 hours later rang bell looked at security cam. No answer. Called back and she finally opened door. Thought scary looking mamasan was the masseuse at first but then younger gal came in for massage. There are 3 girls working. Mine ok looking shy no English. Started out bad with random pats. Turned out to be a really good massage spent a lot of time on lower back arms legs feet. No tease preflip (bad sign) and he was not happening. She seemed scared of mamasan who was outside the door, grabbed her ass under the dress nice small round but but still no sign of a finish. They are real cautious. Might take a few visits but with the setup of sec cams and buzzer you wold think this place was p+.

For $60 it's worth a few tries.

Donatello
06-21-17, 22:36
Sounds like I shoulda gone here instead of where I picked. 0037 has been a solid go-to over the years, but seems I drew the short straw this time. Mid / Late 30's "joice" gave decent enough rub, but I really needed my shoulders worked out. On FLIP started the barter game. Said "tip?" while patting Jr. I patted her chest she said "80" but all "no no" when I asked for UTC or top off. I agreed 40 for standard ending and she stared in like she was trying to hammer my little guy through my back. 3 minutes if Indian Rope Burn and I said "no thanks. " Left the 40 anyway and she got mad because I took too long (seriously? Just didn't click. I'll still try another time and hope to draw a better pick. YMMV gents, but good lucjnwith this one!


Went by the other day. Called and got suite number. Went by 2 hours later rang bell looked at security cam. No answer. Called back and she finally opened door. Thought scary looking mamasan was the masseuse at first but then younger gal came in for massage. There are 3 girls working. Mine ok looking shy no English. Started out bad with random pats. Turned out to be a really good massage spent a lot of time on lower back arms legs feet. No tease preflip (bad sign) and he was not happening. She seemed scared of mamasan who was outside the door, grabbed her ass under the dress nice small round but but still no sign of a finish. They are real cautious. Might take a few visits but with the setup of sec cams and buzzer you wold think this place was p+.

For $60 it's worth a few tries.

JoyForEvr
06-22-17, 00:11
She offers massage only, don't mention any extras or you will be out the door!Thank for reply. How was the massage? I won't mind just the massage if its good. I am frequent to JJ31 its very legit with good massage.

Williet
06-22-17, 07:33
STATE NEWS.

Bill regulating massage parlors advances in and Carolina House.

Posted 6:51 pm Yesterday.

Updated 6:53 pm Yesterday.

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RALEIGH, and. C. — A bill to regulate North Carolina's massage parlors to crack down on human trafficking has received preliminary House approval.

In a 110-5 vote Wednesday, members backed legislation requiring massage and bodywork therapy establishments to be licensed. The law now requires only that massage therapists be licensed. It would cost $20 to apply for a license and there would initial license and renewal fees.

Bill sponsor Randolph County Republican Rep. Allen McNeill says the legislation is meant to allow the state regulate the parlors, which are sometimes used as a front for prostitution and illegal sexual activities.

The measure needs one more House vote before going to the Senate, where a competing proposal also would increase the punishment for violating human trafficking laws and spread awareness about the forced sex trade.

MickeyMic
06-22-17, 08:20
I drove by the new place but didn't stop. I think a massage business that operates in its own building has a better chance to remain open than those in a strip mall. Complaints from other nearby business owners is a massage business killer.I think the name plays a big part in this. Any place named "Asian Super Relax" or whatever, is going to be frowned upon, regardless of what goes on inside, but #17 has been there for a long time, and until I started coming here to this site, I had no idea that 'Canaan' was an AMP.

Derppy
06-22-17, 12:46
Went by the other day. Called and got suite number. Went by 2 hours later rang bell looked at security cam. No answer. Called back and she finally opened door. Thought scary looking mamasan was the masseuse at first but then younger gal came in for massage. There are 3 girls working. Mine ok looking shy no English. Started out bad with random pats. Turned out to be a really good massage spent a lot of time on lower back arms legs feet. No tease preflip (bad sign) and he was not happening. She seemed scared of mamasan who was outside the door, grabbed her ass under the dress nice small round but but still no sign of a finish. They are real cautious. Might take a few visits but with the setup of sec cams and buzzer you wold think this place was p+.

For $60 it's worth a few tries.I went by yesterday early afternoon. Found the place is called "New Haven Health". Had to wait a bit for the previous customer to leave before anyone answered the door for me. I think I recognize the mamasan from the now closed Rose Health. I definitely recognized the girl I got from Rose Health. Same price as Rose Health. Same service as Rose Health. Left extremely happy. I'm pretty sure this is just a reincarnation of Rose Health.

RickSanchez903
06-22-17, 14:01
I've been looking to hit up 0005 or 0010 spot in cary recently but have been nervous. I'm a younger guy and just wanted some pointers for my first time going in. Any suggestions? Any better places to start?

Diver519
06-22-17, 15:59
Sounds like I shoulda gone here instead of where I picked. 0037 has been a solid go-to over the years, but seems I drew the short straw this time. Mid / Late 30's "joice" gave decent enough rub, but I really needed my shoulders worked out. On FLIP started the barter game. Said "tip?" while patting Jr. I patted her chest she said "80" but all "no no" when I asked for UTC or top off. I agreed 40 for standard ending and she stared in like she was trying to hammer my little guy through my back. 3 minutes if Indian Rope Burn and I said "no thanks. " Left the 40 anyway and she got mad because I took too long (seriously? Just didn't click. I'll still try another time and hope to draw a better pick. YMMV gents, but good lucjnwith this one!0037 is my go-to as well and have never had a complaint. Drew same girl mentioned here and had same luck. She was looking for all kinds of tips through the massage and was then mad when I left. 4 after standard finish. Pretty uncomfortable experience all around.

Pubb69
06-22-17, 16:25
STATE NEWS.

Bill regulating massage parlors advances in and Carolina House.

Posted 6:51 pm Yesterday.

Updated 6:53 pm Yesterday.

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RALEIGH, and. C. A bill to regulate North Carolina's massage parlors to crack down on human trafficking has received preliminary House approval.

In a 110-5 vote Wednesday, members backed legislation requiring massage and bodywork therapy establishments to be licensed. The law now requires only that massage therapists be licensed. It would cost $20 to apply for a license and there would initial license and renewal fees.

Bill sponsor Randolph County Republican Rep. Allen McNeill says the legislation is meant to allow the state regulate the parlors, which are sometimes used as a front for prostitution and illegal sexual activities.

The measure needs one more House vote before going to the Senate, where a competing proposal also would increase the punishment for violating human trafficking laws and spread awareness about the forced sex trade.We all know this is the politicians picking the low hanging fruit. I never encountered anyone forced to do anything at a massage parlor. This all looks good to the high and mighty but shutting the parlors down only increases the street activity and feeds the pimps, quite the opposite affect of what they are saying.

XHippie
06-22-17, 17:37
We all know this is the politicians picking the low hanging fruit. I never encountered anyone forced to do anything at a massage parlor. This all looks good to the high and mighty but shutting the parlors down only increases the street activity and feeds the pimps, quite the opposite affect of what they are saying.I agree 99% of all these girls are not held by their will. They have so many options to leave for any county, city or State just by a phone call. There are thousands of stores and these ladies know what web sites to find the jobs I know I've had some real good pussy leave me too soon LOL. These girls that come here have a ace in the hole, (they can always go back home). They use a standard business move that I personally have always followed, (never invest into something without an exit plan). These politicians are just playing the PR card for re-election. The reality is most all of them get up in the morning get dressed in their suits & ties that's made in another country using sweat shop & child labor. The wife is constantly fantasizing about the Latino guy that cuts the grass every week. They eat their breakfast, lunch and dinner day after day that includes food that was picked by a migrant worker making god knows what wage & had to pay or go through god knows what just to cross the border. And at night when they are at home in a very nice house with a full belly getting ready for bed that has sheets made in China the very country they are targeting at those highly important meetings. Hey your old ass wife is the one that bought the sheets made in China quit your whining. While snuggled in his bed there is a crew of folks that can barely speak English cleaning his nasty ass office or chamber making shit change. I'm not a liberal by any means but I am a realist. Humm go after girls giving hand jobs or tighten up those fucking borders and help the people here that need help and grow some balls and bust some ass for the real human traffickers. That's why we have this discussion online, on Fox, on CNN our politicians ON BOTH SIDES blowing hot air out there ass for re-election. Let's spend some tax dollars and Go after those ladies with no License that are being used as sex slaves, really? I guess when you are sitting around doing nothing you invent shit. So if you think I'm just blowing hot air do what I do pour yourself a stiff drink, find a comfortable chair have a seat and stare at your check stub and ask yourself are the people working as hard & smart to spend that deduction as I had to work getting it. These Asian ladies giving relief and trying to survive should be Waaaaay down the list of their concerns. Goose Fraba Goose Fraba.

GrillMaster
06-22-17, 20:55
I went by yesterday early afternoon. Found the place is called "New Haven Health". Had to wait a bit for the previous customer to leave before anyone answered the door for me. I think I recognize the mamasan from the now closed Rose Health. I definitely recognized the girl I got from Rose Health. Same price as Rose Health. Same service as Rose Health. Left extremely happy. I'm pretty sure this is just a reincarnation of Rose Health.If this is even close to Rose Health level of service I'm interested. Is this a new location? Chapel Hill Blvd location is closed I hear.

XHippie
06-22-17, 21:32
I went by yesterday early afternoon. Found the place is called "New Haven Health". Had to wait a bit for the previous customer to leave before anyone answered the door for me. I think I recognize the mamasan from the now closed Rose Health. I definitely recognized the girl I got from Rose Health. Same price as Rose Health. Same service as Rose Health. Left extremely happy. I'm pretty sure this is just a reincarnation of Rose Health.Mamasan at Rose told me before they shut down that if no one answers the door they are all busy, really busy. Most guys that went to Rose will recognize mamasan easy. You will know if it's the old staff you will receive a alcohol bath. Those that visited Rose know what I mean.

GrillMaster
06-22-17, 22:52
If this is even close to Rose Health level of service I'm interested. Is this a new location? Chapel Hill Blvd location is closed I hear.Backtracked and found it. Just not thinking tonight.

GutterBall
06-23-17, 07:05
I agree 99% of all these girls are not held by their will. They have so many options to leave for any county, city or State just by a phone call. There are thousands of stores and these ladies know what web sites to find the jobs I know I've had some real good pussy leave me too soon LOL. These girls that come here have a ace in the hole, (they can always go back home). They use a standard business move that I personally have always followed, (never invest into something without an exit plan). These politicians are just playing the PR card for re-election. The reality is most all of them get up in the morning get dressed in their suits & ties that's made in another country using sweat shop & child labor. The wife is constantly fantasizing about the Latino guy that cuts the grass every week. They eat their breakfast, lunch and dinner day after day that includes food that was picked by a migrant worker making god knows what wage & had to pay or go through god knows what just to cross the border. And at night when they are at home in a very nice house with a full belly getting ready for bed that has sheets made in China the very country they are targeting at those highly important meetings. Hey your old ass wife is the one that bought the sheets made in China quit your whining. While snuggled in his bed there is a crew of folks that can barely speak English cleaning his nasty ass office or chamber making shit change. I'm not a liberal by any means but I am a realist. Humm go after girls giving hand jobs or tighten up those fucking borders and help the people here that need help and grow some balls and bust some ass for the real human traffickers. That's why we have this discussion online, on Fox, on CNN our politicians ON BOTH SIDES blowing hot air out there ass for re-election. Let's spend some tax dollars and Go after those ladies with no License that are being used as sex slaves, really? I guess when you are sitting around doing nothing you invent shit. So if you think I'm just blowing hot air do what I do pour yourself a stiff drink, find a comfortable chair have a seat and stare at your check stub and ask yourself are the people working as hard & smart to spend that deduction as I had to work getting it. These Asian ladies giving relief and trying to survive should be Waaaaay down the list of their concerns. Goose Fraba Goose Fraba.I hate to sound picky Dude but that is TMI. IMMHO.

MadBull1175
06-23-17, 13:14
Nice and quiet, discreet. I'm a fan.

XHippie
06-23-17, 14:44
I hate to sound picky Dude but that is TMI. IMMHO.Oh I agree "I was the one that had to type it" Just thinking out loud. Here lately when I express my opinion about dumb shits I have a tendency to over analyze or at least express my opinion why I think they are operating without a brain. Old habit.

Binkster
06-23-17, 16:25
Used to love #45, but after it closed and now reopened, I can say it is not worth the visit. I walk in, nice greet but both looked like mamsans, not masseuses. I asked for an hour, and the woman countered with half hour. Okay. Then the reason became obvious. The massage is just brushing hands over your back and legs. On the flip they want 6. To get that they have to do a great massage and great he. Then out the door.

Binkster
06-23-17, 16:29
The whole building is empty and up for sale.

Purple45
06-23-17, 18:49
I hate to sound picky Dude but that is TMI. IMMHO.


Oh I agree "I was the one that had to type it" Just thinking out loud. Here lately when I express my opinion about dumb shits I have a tendency to over analyze or at least express my opinion why I think they are operating without a brain. Old habit.Sometimes the details or lengthily explanations are necessary because many people just take things at face value when they really don't understand the reality of the situation.

XHippie
06-23-17, 19:07
Sometimes the details or lengthily explanations are necessary because many people just take things at face value and when they really don't understand the reality of the situation.Yea what he said! I agree 110% LOL, seriously it's all good short post, long post just so we keep posting. We complain about the choices of AMP's we have to choose from or at least the older ladies service. And we may disagree with other members, But let me tell ya it's no different anywhere else they have the same issues hunting for that perfect place that doesn't cost an arm and a leg or has 50 something posing as 30 year olds. I can attest that the quality of our (short & long) post combined with JJ's list the board in this area is doing fine and dandy.

Vossen
06-24-17, 06:42
0055 Rose, Suite 104.

2402 S Miami Blvd, Durham.

☎Tel: 919-756-9274.

🕘: 9 am--10 pm (7 days).Hasnt this place been closed for years?

Enduro185
06-24-17, 07:58
Hasnt this place been closed for years?It's a new place in office buildings RIGHT next to the old rose.

XHippie
06-24-17, 08:09
Hasnt this place been closed for years?I can't remember if it was the same exact address but I remember one being in that general area, staff was lean & 40 to 50 range Massage was a 4/5 with full menu with fair price's. I think the business neighbors caught on or they just made $ what they needed and closed shop (cash & dash). Now if this new setup is the Rose that was in Durham on C. H Blvd. They may stick around for awhile depending on how much attraction they attract. The old Rose lease was not renewed for other reasons, think the building is being sold.

GovernorsClub
06-24-17, 18:23
Backtracked and found it. Just not thinking tonight.Where? Location?

Editit
06-24-17, 18:47
I can't remember if it was the same exact address but I remember one being in that general area, staff was lean & 40 to 50 range Massage was a 4/5 with full menu with fair price's. I think the business neighbors caught on or they just made $ what they needed and closed shop (cash & dash). Now if this new setup is the Rose that was in Durham on C. H Blvd. They may stick around for awhile depending on how much attraction they attract. The old Rose lease was not renewed for other reasons, think the building is being sold.Sounds like rose was good. Since I never went there is it safe to assume this place is good? Would it be worth a drive?

MD Bellamy
06-24-17, 19:48
It's a new place in office buildings RIGHT next to the old rose.JJ's listing for the "old" Rose is: "C 0022) Red Rose Spa 2310 South Miami Blvd, Suite 133, Durham, NC 27703 919-564-9688. Closed. " So, the new Rose is in virtually the same location.

Derppy
06-25-17, 10:30
JJ's listing for the "old" Rose is: "C 0022) Red Rose Spa 2310 South Miami Blvd, Suite 133, Durham, NC 27703 919-564-9688. Closed. " So, the new Rose is in virtually the same location.The old old Rose was in a house nearby, but New Haven is in an office building like a quarter mile down the road. I wouldn't describe this as virtually the same location. More like in the same neighborhood.

Vossen
06-25-17, 17:21
Went by the other day. Called and got suite number. Went by 2 hours later rang bell looked at security cam. No answer. Called back and she finally opened door. Thought scary looking mamasan was the masseuse at first but then younger gal came in for massage. There are 3 girls working. Mine ok looking shy no English. Started out bad with random pats. Turned out to be a really good massage spent a lot of time on lower back arms legs feet. No tease preflip (bad sign) and he was not happening. She seemed scared of mamasan who was outside the door, grabbed her ass under the dress nice small round but but still no sign of a finish. They are real cautious. Might take a few visits but with the setup of sec cams and buzzer you wold think this place was p+.

For $60 it's worth a few tries.Stopped by the yesterday and the mamasan opened the door before I could even ring the bell. I let her take me to a room, asked for an hour and she asked if I was on with a half hour, I said sure and gave her $40. She took the money and left, I was hoping another girl wouldbe coming back but that never happened. Long story short, terrible massage, left happy, I just wished it was a different woman. She told me next time make an appt for 1 hour.

Paid $80 total for everything, I would return but if I get the same lady I'm leaving.

GrillMaster
06-25-17, 22:24
I can confirm that this a resurrected Rose Health. Chubby mamasan answered the phone and met me at the door. I asked for Sasha and she appeard! Not the cutest I've ever had, but still fun. Started face down, no TS, HH only. After some otc and utc I asked "Does this little dress come off?" She giggled and said "Of course. " She got TOTALLY comfortable and gave me a great massage.

Then the flip, NO upsell, just starts HJ. Softest tits ever. Amazing nips. FiV. So I just point to a couple of important anatomical positions and make some suggestions and she goes to work immediately. CBJ, CG, finished with doggy. All in 30 min. $40 in the door, a Franklin out the door, and I'm on my way.

Like I say, she's not the cutest, but still fun.

XHippie
06-25-17, 23:30
I can confirm that this a resurrected Rose Health. Chubby mamasan answered the phone and met me at the door. I asked for Sasha and she appeard! Not the cutest I've ever had, but still fun. Started face down, no TS, HH only. After some otc and utc I asked "Does this little dress come off?" She giggled and said "Of course. " She got TOTALLY comfortable and gave me a great massage.

Then the flip, NO upsell, just starts HJ. Softest tits ever. Amazing nips. FiV. So I just point to a couple of important anatomical positions and make some suggestions and she goes to work immediately. CBJ, CG, finished with doggy. All in 30 min. $40 in the door, a Franklin out the door, and I'm on my way.

Like I say, she's not the cutest, but still fun.If it's the mamasan that looks a little like Russia's Brezhnev sister and a Sasha it's definitely the old Rose. Let me just say I'm OK in the equipment department but I'm not packing that much meat between my legs. Because the few times I saw Sasha she was VERY guarded on the entry almost to the point of pushing me away and how far the entry was allowed to go. After a gentle start she relaxed and it was off to the race but No deep pounding allowed a little frustrating and concentration breaking. Not sure if anyone else experienced this. Although her English is almost zero she is a lot of fun and has a real sweet personality (lacking the English) but steal the reason I saw her several times. Maybe Sasha has loosened up (literally) since I saw her last. And the dog I am, yea mamasan will party too.

GrillMaster
06-26-17, 05:56
If it's the mamasan that looks a little like Russia's Brezhnev sister and a Sasha it's definitely the old Rose. Let me just say I'm OK in the equipment department but I'm not packing that much meat between my legs. Because the few times I saw Sasha she was VERY guarded on the entry almost to the point of pushing me away and how far the entry was allowed to go. After a gentle start she relaxed and it was off to the race but No deep pounding allowed a little frustrating and concentration breaking. Not sure if anyone else experienced this. Although her English is almost zero she is a lot of fun and has a real sweet personality (lacking the English) but steal the reason I saw her several times. Maybe Sasha has loosened up (literally) since I saw her last. And the dog I am, yea mamasan will party too.I'm glad to hear you say that, I thought it was just me! Yes she's very guarded. She was so tight doggy was a challange, but CG she was controlling the action the whole time. She'd keep things from getting too deep. Hahaha! I was thinking, OK I'm no porn star but I thought I'd surely bottom out in this petite thing! Nope! Still fun tho!

MedJohnson
06-26-17, 18:38
Great. Something else for AMP ladies to worry about.

http://www.wnyc.org/story/when-ice-shows-court/

Med.

ExpectMore
06-26-17, 19:08
I wanted to make a request the next time JJ list is updated. My recommendation is we add the AAMPs to the list as well. The JJ list is useful to us mongers because it protects our interests to a decent degree. From small things like which places give a good service, which places reuse unclean bedsheets to what AMPs are safe for us mongers to visit. Nobody wants to go to an AMP / AAMP and get mugged or robbed, or none won't want to go to a AMP where there is a STING operation in place even if nothing illegal is requested.

The fact that we allow AAMPs to be not documented and fly under the radar can be a risk for us if we decide to go there. So I recommend that we add them to the list, but one thing we could do is add them to the list with phone number without necessarily adding the exact location. I think this will protect our safety, and that might give them (AAMP) more business as well if we feel it is safe to go there.

XHippie
06-26-17, 21:36
Great. Something else for AMP ladies to worry about.

http://www.wnyc.org/story/when-ice-shows-court/

Med.Modern politics is this. If you create enough SMOKE over there then no one notices the FIRE is over here. Distraction, Accusing attacking the weak is the norm. I've been wondering if there is such a oil glut and oil has dropped $40 a barrel, shouldn't that shit be a buck twenty. Why has the price of gas only fallen. 40 cents a gallon. Oops forgot about the NC gas tax. Yes this relates, its dipping into my pussy play fund. Sorry what was the question?

MedJohnson
06-26-17, 22:28
Just making his voter base happy, so at the state of the union he can brag about how many million people he deported.

Need refineries to make gas. Last large refinery (200 k b / cd) went on line 1977. In an oil war with the countries that control our refineries.

Might be good for us though- girls might look to leave places like NYC and come to little ol' raleigh where ice will leave them alone. Or fewer girls will come here. Hard to tell. Although there are fewer Asian options right now, AMP or otherwise, than there have been for 6 mos. Depressing for a lover of Asian ladies.

Med.


Modern politics is this. If you create enough SMOKE over there then no one notices the FIRE is over here. Distraction, Accusing attacking the weak is the norm. I've been wondering if there is such a oil glut and oil has dropped $40 a barrel, shouldn't that shit be a buck twenty. Why has the price of gas only fallen. 40 cents a gallon. Oops forgot about the NC gas tax. Yes this relates, its dipping into my pussy play fund. Sorry what was the question?

JohnKim
06-27-17, 06:48
I can attest that #45 is open. I stopped by today to get a hh. 5. I thought I try it out to see what it is like. The middle age women that greeted me at the door spoke good English and was attractive in my opinion. Heck I am a sucker for a nice rack. Anyway the massage stated like normal toward the time to flip there was some teasing which I told her I liked and she kept on. I finally got to a point that I needed to flip and told her so. Like I said she was nice and I left happy and otc roaming was allowed after I asked, standard tip was giving. Hot towel treatment, water, and a hug before leaving. Great first visit. Place looked clean and inviting. Thin walls so you can hear others. Clean sheets as far as I can tell.First the good, rack is big B, small C and you do get a view.

Now the bad, absolutely terrible experience! 5 minutes of a half ass massage and then the negotiation! I have been in the hobby for years and never negotiated with like that. She was actually angry that I wanted more of a massage. I should have just walked out then. 50 fee 40 tip for about 10-15 min. Don't go!

Dasalt
06-27-17, 11:21
I'm glad to hear you say that, I thought it was just me! Yes she's very guarded. She was so tight doggy was a challange, but CG she was controlling the action the whole time. She'd keep things from getting too deep. Hahaha! I was thinking, OK I'm no porn star but I thought I'd surely bottom out in this petite thing! Nope! Still fun tho!Require you bring your own covers? Always thought that was weird.

Enduro185
06-27-17, 13:39
I wanted to make a request the next time JJ list is updated. My recommendation is we add the AAMPs to the list as well. The JJ list is useful to us mongers because it protects our interests to a decent degree. From small things like which places give a good service, which places reuse unclean bedsheets to what AMPs are safe for us mongers to visit. Nobody wants to go to an AMP / AAMP and get mugged or robbed, or none won't want to go to a AMP where there is a STING operation in place even if nothing illegal is requested.

The fact that we allow AAMPs to be not documented and fly under the radar can be a risk for us if we decide to go there. So I recommend that we add them to the list, but one thing we could do is add them to the list with phone number without necessarily adding the exact location. I think this will protect our safety, and that might give them (AAMP) more business as well if we feel it is safe to go there.JJ approached adding AAMPs to the list a long time ago and I believe came to the conclusion that they were likely to move around too much to keep tabs on. There is the occasional one or two that may stick around for a couple years, but many pop up for a couple months. This ends up greatly increasing the size of the list and the amount of upkeep that JJ has to deal with (and for free I might add). Another issue might be scope creep as well. People might start wanting to include all of the Asian posts that pop up on backpage, but those should be reserved for the BackPage section of this site.

TL; DR- Let's just be grateful for what we have.

Jimjim77
06-27-17, 17:20
Thanks for the reply, that covers the reasoning. I also considered adding the non Asian like Quality, but that's usually a different customer type. Although I it's been there well over 20 years, so they are doing something right.


JJ approached adding AAMPs to the list a long time ago and I believe came to the conclusion that they were likely to move around too much to keep tabs on. There is the occasional one or two that may stick around for a couple years, but many pop up for a couple months. This ends up greatly increasing the size of the list and the amount of upkeep that JJ has to deal with (and for free I might add). Another issue might be scope creep as well. People might start wanting to include all of the Asian posts that pop up on backpage, but those should be reserved for the BackPage section of this site.

TL; DR- Let's just be grateful for what we have.

Editit
06-27-17, 18:25
Went to Zen again. Girl had a nice rack so I was yet again hopeful. When asked "hard or soft" I said soft. Off goes the towel. More hopeful thought. After some slight teasing and butterfly stuff. She asks about tip. Now I used to sell cars. But nothing I said or offered was getting the girls out of their hiding place. So after a standard finish she was looking for all the tip we were talking about. I said more for more and gave her standard tip for standard service. They need to learn! So I will not be repeating till I see many reports of better service.

XHippie
06-27-17, 20:34
JJ approached adding AAMPs to the list a long time ago and I believe came to the conclusion that they were likely to move around too much to keep tabs on. There is the occasional one or two that may stick around for a couple years, but many pop up for a couple months. This ends up greatly increasing the size of the list and the amount of upkeep that JJ has to deal with (and for free I might add). Another issue might be scope creep as well. People might start wanting to include all of the Asian posts that pop up on backpage, but those should be reserved for the BackPage section of this site.

TL; DR- Let's just be grateful for what we have.I don't want to speak for JJ but IMO when the list was started there were only a few AMP's in the area then they QUICKLY started popping up. So The list was a great tool then and now. So the list was really for the AMP "brick and mortar" stores which at the time seamed to stick around and I might add at that time there could have been 2,3,4 or more stores owned by the same person. Even if they changed owners it was still there as a brick & mortar store which kinda made it easy to manage by JJ I'm assuming because sometimes the business name and service didn't even change. But then the stores started dropping like flies, different owners changing girls which affected the service, AAMP's popping up making the fast buck then disappearing. So the ASIAN spots are not the steady growth with some owners having several stores or the stores even surviving 12 months. It's a little more complicated or at least an unstable business model IMO, example: Rose re-opens same owner I'm assuming pretty much the same staff different location different name. JJ you the man for giving it a shot I hope your effort can continue if not you still the man. It's a strange business indeed see what happens.

Jimjim77
06-27-17, 23:03
THANKS! I appreciate the compliments, but you give me too much credit. I could not have done the AMP list without all the help and reviews posted by you and everyone else. I have gotten great info from all of you in many PMs. As horney as I am I could not give a rating to the 50 plus AMPs without all your help espesially from the many senior members who PM me. Believe me I have gotten more out of the effort than I put in with some very nice times and an early heads up on where to go for the best time. I have met some girls I will never forget and still keep in touch with them, even as they have moved to different parts of the country. Some I even hook up with when they come back for a visit or I happen to travel to the city where they currently are.

So thanks to you all too.


I don't want to speak for JJ but IMO when the list was started there were only a few AMP's in the area then they QUICKLY started popping up. So The list was a great tool then and now. So the list was really for the AMP "brick and mortar" stores which at the time seamed to stick around and I might add at that time there could have been 2,3,4 or more stores owned by the same person. Even if they changed owners it was still there as a brick & mortar store which kinda made it easy to manage by JJ I'm assuming because sometimes the business name and service didn't even change. But then the stores started dropping like flies, different owners changing girls which affected the service, AAMP's popping up making the fast buck then disappearing. So the ASIAN spots are not the steady growth with some owners having several stores or the stores even surviving 12 months. It's a little more complicated or at least an unstable business model IMO, example: Rose re-opens same owner I'm assuming pretty much the same staff different location different name. JJ you the man for giving it a shot I hope your effort can continue if not you still the man. It's a strange business indeed see what happens.

MD Bellamy
06-28-17, 03:23
Require you bring your own covers? Always thought that was weird.Keeps their operation a little safer. If they are busted and the cops find a huge stack of condoms in the back room, well, what can they say?? Going to any AMP, I take a party hat, just in case it's the Chinese New Year.

BTW, laying it out, with the tip, in full view (with no words exchanged) at the start of the session, sends a clear and reassuring message. The masseuse can take the hint or choose to ignore it.

MedJohnson
06-28-17, 12:29
Known 1 girl there that liked to have more than the usual amount of fun and she is now long gone. Hopefully visits will get better again.

Med.


Went to Zen again. Girl had a nice rack so I was yet again hopeful. When asked "hard or soft" I said soft. Off goes the towel. More hopeful thought. After some slight teasing and butterfly stuff. She asks about tip. Now I used to sell cars. But nothing I said or offered was getting the girls out of their hiding place. So after a standard finish she was looking for all the tip we were talking about. I said more for more and gave her standard tip for standard service. They need to learn! So I will not be repeating till I see many reports of better service.

ExpectMore
06-28-17, 19:10
THANKS! I appreciate the compliments, but you give me too much credit.

So thanks to you all too.Hey JJ, thanks for the maintaining the list. That is definitely very helpful. I should have begun my post with a thanks, that was an omission unwittingly.

But, you know, the heart and the other organ which is not the heart wants more So at some point I might create a KK list just for AAMPs. My initials are not KK though.

FordDiesel250
06-29-17, 08:37
I don't want to speak for JJ but IMO when the list was started there were only a few AMP's in the area then they QUICKLY started popping up. So The list was a great tool then and now. So the list was really for the AMP "brick and mortar" stores which at the time seamed to stick around and I might add at that time there could have been 2,3,4 or more stores owned by the same person. Even if they changed owners it was still there as a brick & mortar store which kinda made it easy to manage by JJ I'm assuming because sometimes the business name and service didn't even change. But then the stores started dropping like flies, different owners changing girls which affected the service, AAMP's popping up making the fast buck then disappearing. So the ASIAN spots are not the steady growth with some owners having several stores or the stores even surviving 12 months. It's a little more complicated or at least an unstable business model IMO, example: Rose re-opens same owner I'm assuming pretty much the same staff different location different name. JJ you the man for giving it a shot I hope your effort can continue if not you still the man. It's a strange business indeed see what happens.Without the list I might have had the courage to go for the first time. After that I though why did I wait so long to try this. It might have saved two divorces and alot of money haha. I always wanted to be with a Asian and never had the opportunity. Wow is all I can say. Now I have been with lots of them and feel very comfortable going to the AMPs. Thanks again for the LIST JJ. And all that share and contribute. I hope my past post have helped someone also. Peace out.

Nattie
06-29-17, 08:41
Hey, does anyone know what's on the table with Asian Jazmine? (picture attached) She has reviews on the other site but I don't have VIP access and the intro does not allude to anything other than massage and HE.

Soooooooooooo $175 for just a massage and HE? Not so much but if there is more available without an up-sell maybe. She will not reveal anything on the phone and that's understandable.

Nattie.

MedJohnson
06-29-17, 09:23
Went to the foot place in k-dale. Low expectations for extras given previous reviews, etc but my foot was bothering me so I took the 60 min table massage and 10 min foot deal currently on BP. BP ad made me hopeful so I made sure to mention. Curtains at doorways to rooms and low walls so sound travels. Mildly attractive Asian women, middle age. Decent rub, full drape, full time with timer going. Totally legit. . 2 tip.

Left there and needed some release so then I went down to 33 since I haven't been there in a while for 1/2 hr for. 45 and tip. Unattractive older woman with nice body, lite OTC roaming. Totally mechanical with a little pre-flip tease. Got what I needed but nothing more. It was late and lady was more interested in her Chinese show on iPad than me. Got my full time though.

Can't wait for more Asians to show up. Too few options right now.

Med.

John Whitman
06-29-17, 16:47
I am assuming you are talking about this Jazmine since her profile says she is Asian:

http://liverubreviews.com/ad/washingtondc/703-989-3899/1/599904

I gather from the reviews that she is legit and that the photos are reasonably accurate. Her reviews are OK if not outstanding. Looks like BJ is available for a pretty significant upsell. Hope this helps.


Hey, does anyone know what's on the table with Asian Jazmine? (picture attached) She has reviews on the other site but I don't have VIP access and the intro does not allude to anything other than massage and HE.

Soooooooooooo $175 for just a massage and HE? Not so much but if there is more available without an up-sell maybe. She will not reveal anything on the phone and that's understandable.

Nattie.

Nattie
06-29-17, 17:31
This one: Jazmin.

TER I'd: 281709.

http://jazmin.bodyrubsites.com/

Nattie.


I am assuming you are talking about this Jazmine since her profile says she is Asian:

http://liverubreviews.com/ad/washingtondc/703-989-3899/1/599904

I gather from the reviews that she is legit and that the photos are reasonably accurate. Her reviews are OK if not outstanding. Looks like BJ is available for a pretty significant upsell. Hope this helps.

OlderWood
06-30-17, 09:42
This one: Jazmin.

TER I'd: 281709.

http://jazmin.bodyrubsites.com/

Nattie.See my post on BP Advertisers. It is pending moderator review but should pist soon. I saw her in Atlanta last week.

John Whitman
06-30-17, 11:41
OK, looks like there are two Asians, Jazmin / Jazmine. Now I know which one you mean. I looked at some of her reviews. Seems like most all of them that I looked at just mention massage and a HE. One reviewer talked about getting more, but he only has two reviews, so take that report as you will. Good luck.


This one: Jazmin.

TER I'd: 281709.

http://jazmin.bodyrubsites.com/

Nattie.

OlderWood
06-30-17, 12:06
OK, looks like there are two Asians, Jazmin / Jazmine. Now I know which one you mean. I looked at some of her reviews. Seems like most all of them that I looked at just mention massage and a HE. One reviewer talked about getting more, but he only has two reviews, so take that report as you will. Good luck.This is the one I saw last week in Atlanta and reviewed this morning in the BP Advertisers section.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/highly-reviewed-id-281709-beautiful-sexy-thai-nuru-specialist/37666098

Great fun time but very limited and no FS.

Old Sparky
07-01-17, 07:30
I made my 2nd visit (see previous post) to Ying-Yang, the newer place on Simpkins Road. Called, made the appointment and arrived a few minutes early as usual. This time there were a few extra cars in the yard. After knocking on the door I was greeted by a different lady than last time. This one appeared to be older than the last one I had seen. Since I was still just trying the place out I didn't request the first lady but just went with the flow. This lady was talkative and gave a much better massage but no teasing at all. A little too light but still felt good but she was careful to keep the towel in place and completely avoided the towel. On the flip she mentioned that the time was almost up and asked where would I like to be massaged. I indicated a certain area and she smiled but proceeded to massage my shoulders instead. This is definitely a YMMV establishment but I still like it, maybe because it is not in a shopping center which makes it feel more private. I ended up at Nana's the next day to get rid of the stress.

TheAmazing
07-02-17, 08:48
Took a trip to knightdale and stopped at rainbow spa (0050). Drew a cute one with a great rack. She had a great personality and I would repeat if Ever on that side of town. The place seems clean with 2 x4 tables. TS included in the hour, but I did not partake. PM if you need more details.

XHippie
07-02-17, 09:27
Dam, I got a blow job from a tranny. LOL.I don't know man, I'm sure many visitors grabbed at that snatch area and no one ever posted about feeling a Mr Winkie. I would think one could tell the difference and would have said something at least a PM or two.

Es421
07-03-17, 06:30
I don't know man, I'm sure many visitors grabbed at that snatch area and no one ever posted about feeling a Mr Winkie. I would think one could tell the difference and would have said something at least a PM or two.I Believe he mentioned post-op. No Winkie. Disturbing though.

Jjjchar
07-03-17, 09:13
We just had a Finkle is Einhorn moment.

Purple45
07-03-17, 14:48
I visited Mimi today and yes she was busy! She knew about the review because she asked how I knew her name since I haven't seen her before. During my appointment another customer arrived asking for Mimi and he said he called. Mimi left to speak with him and returned asking if the other lady could finish me. I said no because I also called so it's first come first serve when an establishment tells everyone who calls yes come but knowing everyone can see the same girl at the same time. Ok let me say that Mimi is not for everyone. I think she has a TS type of look even though I know she is all girl. Her boobs are firm with a perfect roundness which leads me to believe they have been enhanced. She did strip down briefly while performing a DIY but I noticed the paper overhang so she is currently having her period so don't expect to see her kitty. Her massage skills are so so but she did say she was tired from already giving two hard massages back to back. HJ skills are decent and I really liked her intense eye contact during and she did talk dirty while increasing the speed or her hand stroke. I found the dirty talk humorous and not a turn on in my department. She did lean over and put her boobs in my face while nibbling on my ear and that did the trick. Again she is not for everyone but to say after a visit with her will ruin your time with other providers is a very long stretch IMO.

Would love to know what you had against Mimi. Having made a close inspection of her LOL. I will tell you #1 comment is not true. The girl was a sweetheart, with a boyfriend who got lots of action before she left. She did draw the line with guys who she thought would kiss and tell. Not a TS and I know how to tell.
Well this talk of Mimi had me revisit some old posts including my review. Several members have stated, including myself, that Mimi had a TS look. Mimi was flirty and a dirty talker but never one with much patience. The two times I visited the HJ was started but I had a DIY ending. Mimi was not my cup of tea but others enjoyed the time. I mentioned in my review that I noticed a paper overhang on her panty. I assumed she was on her period but it could have been a panty liner for some vaginal cream. NoMassage's post appears to have some firsthand insider post-op knowledge but I trust the other members who I know had personal experience with Mimi that she is not a TS.

Spaceball1
07-03-17, 15:26
Can anyone tell me which places still offer table showers? All the places I used to know have either closed or have gone legit (#0011). I know VIP has one available, but the drive is just too far for me.

Editit
07-03-17, 17:17
If you like long nipples then head to VIP. Solid visit, no the best looking so I just got std finish.

JoyForEvr
07-03-17, 22:18
Has anyone tried below post from CL? She is constantly posting there.

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cas/6203799356.html

MD Bellamy
07-04-17, 06:05
Can anyone tell me which places still offer table showers? All the places I used to know have either closed or have gone legit (#0011). I know VIP has one available, but the drive is just too far for me.The one on University Drive, Durham offers a TS, but you will have to buy your way in. Nothing "extra" on first visit, and nothing beyond a HJ ever (in my experience). However, if you relish a good massage, this is an excellent place.

Spaceball1
07-04-17, 14:59
The one on University Drive, Durham offers a TS, but you will have to buy your way in. Nothing "extra" on first visit, and nothing beyond a HJ ever (in my experience). However, if you relish a good massage, this is an excellent place.Not jumping through hoops for a rub and tug. Just not worth the time or effort.

From RTFF, it seems that Pure (#0029) has a TS, but when I called to ask, they said that was NOT available. Can anyone confirm or deny?

It also seems that 0010 has a TS available, but the last time I went there, the tips they were demanding were way over my budget, despite a full menu. I remember reading that the place changed ownership, so I am wondering if the menu and prices have changed. Can anyone comment on that?

HappyMan21
07-04-17, 15:01
If you like long nipples then head to VIP. Solid visit, no the best looking so I just got std finish.I am new here. Where is the VIP section. I am interested in the long nipples.

XHippie
07-04-17, 16:54
Not jumping through hoops for a rub and tug. Just not worth the time or effort.

From RTFF, it seems that Pure (#0029) has a TS, but when I called to ask, they said that was NOT available. Can anyone confirm or deny?

It also seems that 0010 has a TS available, but the last time I went there, the tips they were demanding were way over my budget, despite a full menu. I remember reading that the place changed ownership, so I am wondering if the menu and prices have changed. Can anyone comment on that?If you Google rubmapsraleigh or rubmapsdurham or whatever it will give you the list of stores, choose a store, in the description at the top of the page it will give you a list of info Table Shower being one of them. You do have to be a RM member to open the page but not to read the home page for info. That said, to your piont with all the changes with stores it is definitely best to call first and ask if they offer a Table Shower if yes my next question would be is it free? Just a few thoughts, IMO a Table Shower is obviously to get you clean before the massage which most girls would prefer you do and who knows could lead to a better HE, they hate smelling body odor on a customer especially ass sweat and foot odor. Secondly it is almost necessary after a massage especially if you got drenched with oil and lord forbid if it was cheap smelly oil or baby oil (stay tuned more on the oil subject). Don't want to go home to the little lady or back to work with that smell on you or your clothes. What I'm about to say may get a WTF but I know for a fact from sources on the front lines. Now it definitely IS NOT all stores but you never know which ones do this. The NUMBER ONE RULE in this business is make cash as cheap as possible. Ever get a massage on a 2 x4 table? Ever get a massage then the girl uses the same sheets for the next customer? (save on using that 220 dryer electricity) ever get massage oil put on your body that came from a ONE GALLON "cooking oil bottle" that was mixed with johnsons baby oil for scent and as a oil thinner? Oh yes you have! Very cheap to make, trick of the trade! Best to get that TS or wash it off at home or you will attract flies LOL or stain your clothes no shit guys. Back to the subject Table showers done right is a lost art form IMO not many girls really know how to give a great Table Shower that Teases & Cleans. Unfortunately it is a half assed rinsed experience that last 5 minutes if that and should NEVER be charged for. $20 for a TS is a total rip off it's like being charged for water at a restaurant should automatically be included if you desire it. If a TS is done right it should last at least 5 or 10 minutes, involve some wet titties and a hard dick when being towel dried. I use to see this girl that would get up close and personal during the TS not to bust a nut but more of a prep damn I was cleaned and primed for the massage when she finished. She would put me in the room then throw her clothes in the dryer get on her massaging clothes and meet me in the room. This was back when I use to get table showers which are off my list now. Girls now either don't bring a change of clothes with them or try their best not to get wet it's usually the minimum. If the TS is free and they ain't getting their cut why bother going the extra mile can't blame them. So I didn't really answer your question just a suggestion where to look for info and my opinion and experiences with table showers.

GeniePants
07-04-17, 17:18
Not jumping through hoops for a rub and tug. Just not worth the time or effort.

From RTFF, it seems that Pure (#0029) has a TS, but when I called to ask, they said that was NOT available. Can anyone confirm or deny?

It also seems that 0010 has a TS available, but the last time I went there, the tips they were demanding were way over my budget, despite a full menu. I remember reading that the place changed ownership, so I am wondering if the menu and prices have changed. Can anyone comment on that?I can confirm that Pure Spa 0029 had TS service, as of 2 weeks ago, at no additional charge.

PHW1130
07-04-17, 21:30
I am new here. Where is the VIP section. I am interested in the long nipples.E 0018) VIP ASIAN SPA Weathers Ct Youngsville NC 27596 919) 570-5060.

MD Bellamy
07-04-17, 21:36
I am new here. Where is the VIP section. I am interested in the long nipples.Not a VIP section. VIP is the name of the AMP. It's in Youngsville, north of Raleigh. You can find it listed on Backpage.com.

Spaceball1
07-04-17, 21:44
Back to the subject Table showers done right is a lost art form IMO not many girls really know how to give a great Table Shower that Teases & Cleans. Unfortunately it is a half assed rinsed experience that last 5 minutes if that and should NEVER be charged for. $20 for a TS is a total rip off it's like being charged for water at a restaurant should automatically be included if you desire it. If a TS is done right it should last at least 5 or 10 minutes, involve some wet titties and a hard dick when being towel dried. Not going to quote your entire text, but I wanted to leave this part because I feel it is the most important. A good TS should be included as part of the "spa" experience IMO, exactly for the reasons you mention. I always take a shower at home both before and after visiting an AMP because 1) I want to be clean when I show up so as not to turn off the masseuse and 2) I don't want massage oil of any kind to be on me for any longer than it has to be.

The real magic of the TS is to set the tone for the rest of the session. The girl can get comfortable with the client's entire body, and the client can get an idea of how open the masseuse is on the flip. The more attention the masseuse pays to my private parts, the better the session is overall. On one occasion, at Holiday in Morrisville (now closed), I actually got a tug in the TS, as well as another tug on the flip. Only time that has ever happened, and I didn't even hint for it either time.

Also, thanks for the tip about RubMaps.


I can confirm that Pure Spa 0029 had TS service, as of 2 weeks ago, at no additional charge.I think this is where I need to visit next. I have visited most of the spots in the Cary area, but I have yet to go in this one. Thanks for the confirmation. I am curious as to why they said that they did not have a TS when I called. Hmm?

MedJohnson
07-05-17, 08:49
With TS being great for setting the tone plus she knows you are super clean before any fun goes down. Many pops in the TS area and then real fun in the massage room. Was a girl (long gone now) at 51 that would do fire and ice in the TS to tease and then finish with lots of other fun in the room. Good times.

Med.


Not going to quote your entire text, but I wanted to leave this part because I feel it is the most important. A good TS should be included as part of the "spa" experience IMO, exactly for the reasons you mention. I always take a shower at home both before and after visiting an AMP because 1) I want to be clean when I show up so as not to turn off the masseuse and 2) I don't want massage oil of any kind to be on me for any longer than it has to be.

The real magic of the TS is to set the tone for the rest of the session. The girl can get comfortable with the client's entire body, and the client can get an idea of how open the masseuse is on the flip. The more attention the masseuse pays to my private parts, the better the session is overall. On one occasion, at Holiday in Morrisville (now closed), I actually got a tug in the TS, as well as another tug on the flip. Only time that has ever happened, and I didn't even hint for it either time.

Also, thanks for the tip about RubMaps.

I think this is where I need to visit next. I have visited most of the spots in the Cary area, but I have yet to go in this one. Thanks for the confirmation. I am curious as to why they said that they did not have a TS when I called. Hmm?

HappyMan21
07-05-17, 11:18
Not a VIP section. VIP is the name of the AMP. It's in Youngsville, north of Raleigh. You can find it listed on Backpage.com.Okay thanks for the insight.

HappyMan21
07-05-17, 19:38
I meet a white female for a massage. Her name is Khloe. Meet her in a low end hotel. She gave me a half ass massage. No oil or lotion. I paid for 30 minutes she gave me 15 minutes. She did give me a HJ. She is a nice person with a regular full time job. She has some nice tits and nibbles. I will not repeat at her price. I did like her tattoos. She is located in cary, white female early 30's.

RubaDubdub01
07-05-17, 20:22
Hi all-I visited this lady last year and got a pretty good massage, but zero extras. If anyone has been lately please shoot me a PM and let me know if the menu options have gotten any better.

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/6202792146.html

Raltime
07-05-17, 20:56
Hi all-I visited this lady last year and got a pretty good massage, but zero extras. If anyone has been lately please shoot me a PM and let me know if the menu options have gotten any better.

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/6202792146.htmlIt's all about building trust and relationships.

TheAmazing
07-05-17, 22:53
I can do an hour with Tulip or try to buuld a situation at an AMP. What would you do? I have not dreamed outside an AMP so i am tempted by something new

XHippie
07-06-17, 00:01
I can do an hour with Tulip or try to buuld a situation at an AMP. What would you do? I have not dreamed outside an AMP so i am tempted by something newI love Asian women, I love combining a massage with some fun, but this is YOUR itch that needs scratching not mine. The 3 questions you should ask yourself are, what is the itch that needs to be scratched, who would make you smile when you thought about the visit and how much will this relief cost? If Tulip can do the deed that meets your budget while offering a change from the AMP scene well there's your answer. If you are looking for the Asian Package and all its shaky pudden tightness that may involve multiple visits OR not, that's the other answer. My personal choice in a situation like this is whatever needs to be scratched NOW I'm going to visit who can give me some relief when I need it at minimal cost in a timely manner, Asian, White, Black, Latin whoever meets my needs my schedule and qualifications (hygiene, cost, location, reviews etc.) So, Tulip or The AMP's in this area? Your choice.

MedJohnson
07-06-17, 13:00
On how much you are looking for. Tulip definitely has limits to the extras. Play the AMP game right and you are only limited by your imagination.

Stay safe.

Med.


I can do an hour with Tulip or try to buuld a situation at an AMP. What would you do? I have not dreamed outside an AMP so i am tempted by something new

Mag8600
07-06-17, 17:13
Funny that when I logged in to post this, the last several posts happened to be about Tulip. I guarantee, this is in no way related.

I had an experience yesterday that I never expected I'd have with a provider, and want to share it. I decided to see Tulip for the first time. I called, we scheduled an hour at a particular time, and she sent me the address. But when I looked it up on my PC, it pointed me to a different hotel than the one she was in (same chain, different location). Bottom line, I ended up at the wrong place, and by the time I sorted it out and got to the right one, I was 15 minutes late. She was a little ticked that I apparently couldn't use GPS, but it didn't affect the session. The session was a bit rushed, but I expected that. After all, I'd been late, and I fully expected her to give me the time slot we'd agreed to, not 60 minutes after I finally showed up.

But when the session ended, she said, "Since you were 15 minutes late, I only charged you my 45 minute rate. I put $20 on the table by your clothes. " It took me several minutes to actually process what she'd just said. I've had providers short me on time before, but do you think any of them offered to give me a refund? And this had been MY fault. (To my embarrassment, I was halfway home before I did a face-palm and said 'Why the hell didn't I leave her the money?)

With all the scuzzy, drug-addicted, rip-off providers out there these days, it's so refreshing to deal with one who truly has integrity.

Old Sparky
07-06-17, 18:15
Well I had my 3rd visit to Ying / Yang. It was hard to schedule this time, no one was answering the phone and the voice mail box was full. The lady was Asian but not the typical body stereotype I'm used to. For lack of a better description, I'd say she was "stocky" and looked to be in her mid 30's. The massage was good, decent pressure but not too hard with a little teasing near the end. On the flip, it was standard AMP service but money was never brought up. I was happy so I tipped accordingly and she seemed satisfied.

So in 3 visits to Ying / Yang I've had 3 different women, 3 different levels of massage skills and 3 very different experiences on the flip. I still like the house environment better than the strip mall, so I think I will return.

Since it was a holiday, which meant a long weekend, I swung by Nana on 42. This place has been my go to spot for a few years now and I'm sure they would consider me a regular customer. I think I tip reasonably and they have always hugged me and told me to come back soon but this time the lady asked for "more money". I pay. 7 for the hour massage, and then tip. 8 . I told her no that I didn't have anymore with me. Did the dream of a happy ending while holding a little bare skin suddenly go up? Which one of you is raising the bar without warning us?

TheShredSter66
07-06-17, 18:46
Can anyone tell me which places still offer table showers? All the places I used to know have either closed or have gone legit (#0011). I know VIP has one available, but the drive is just too far for me.I can vouche for 0029,0010, as well as 0050.

XHippie
07-06-17, 19:43
Funny that when I logged in to post this, the last several posts happened to be about Tulip. I guarantee, this is in no way related.

I had an experience yesterday that I never expected I'd have with a provider, and want to share it. I decided to see Tulip for the first time. I called, we scheduled an hour at a particular time, and she sent me the address. But when I looked it up on my PC, it pointed me to a different hotel than the one she was in (same chain, different location). Bottom line, I ended up at the wrong place, and by the time I sorted it out and got to the right one, I was 15 minutes late. She was a little ticked that I apparently couldn't use GPS, but it didn't affect the session. The session was a bit rushed, but I expected that. After all, I'd been late, and I fully expected her to give me the time slot we'd agreed to, not 60 minutes after I finally showed up.

But when the session ended, she said, "Since you were 15 minutes late, I only charged you my 45 minute rate. I put $20 on the table by your clothes. " It took me several minutes to actually process what she'd just said. I've had providers short me on time before, but do you think any of them offered to give me a refund? And this had been MY fault. (To my embarrassment, I was halfway home before I did a face-palm and said 'Why the hell didn't I leave her the money?)

With all the scuzzy, drug-addicted, rip-off providers out there these days, it's so refreshing to deal with one who truly has integrity.Amen brother run the bad ones out of town so the good ones can supply the demand. These girls know they are getting reviewed (some are too jacked up or too stupid to care) Tulip got a thumbs up from you. Don't kick yourself too bad she will get that $20 back quick, good advertising on her part for treating you like a true customer not a quick trick.

Sobe69
07-07-17, 10:09
Saw here about three years ago. Tug was on the menu but declined FS.


Hi all-I visited this lady last year and got a pretty good massage, but zero extras. If anyone has been lately please shoot me a PM and let me know if the menu options have gotten any better.

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/6202792146.html

Sobe69
07-07-17, 10:11
Do you have a link to her ad??


I meet a white female for a massage. Her name is Khloe. Meet her in a low end hotel. She gave me a half ass massage. No oil or lotion. I paid for 30 minutes she gave me 15 minutes. She did give me a HJ. She is a nice person with a regular full time job. She has some nice tits and nibbles. I will not repeat at her price. I did like her tattoos. She is located in cary, white female early 30's.