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RubaDubdub01
10-21-16, 11:33
Massage any more? It seems all the ladies go straight for the gold on the flip nowadays. Is there any AMP that still provides a decent front massage?
Stopped by this place for the second time as usual "have you been here before" yes I have that's why I am back. Great response if I do say so myself. 7 for an hour she must have been tired or over worked message was mediocre at best. Short, nice rack very fun after flip. I have been to many spa's and I usually just leave happy but this was the happiest I have ever left a spa full menu. She wanted $. 2 we agreed we agreed an $. She gave me a different name this time so I guess name wouldn't help anyone. I will be back for sure.I went to this place I think like day 3 that they were open awhile back. Full Menu was not available and the lady I saw matches the description you gave. Short probably late 40's a raspy voice or at least not a petite voice if I remember and had a decent rack. If it's the same one sounds like she's put more on the table. I think I'll try to make my way over there and try my lick oops luck. Thanks for your post info.
0026 WestGate CLOSED!Because of LEO?
Because of LEO?Not sure, but why else would they close a money making store? This store did well as far as traffic. I'm pretty sure they got busted for something. My guess is this massage license thing is coming back to bite these folks in the ass. Shutting down with your name on a lease is not good. Too bad I've soiled a few sheets there.
0026 WestGate CLOSED!
Not sure, but why else would they close a money making store? This store did well as far as traffic. I'm pretty sure they got busted for something. My guess is this massage license thing is coming back to bite these folks in the ass. Shutting down with your name on a lease is not good. Too bad I've soiled a few sheets there.Several AMP's are connected by having the same ownership / family ties. If I remember correctly Westgate, Touch of Asia and two other AMP's, that will not be named, use to rotate girls among the stores. I use to book a favorite girl at one AMP and the manager would tell me that she was not here but I could see her at this other store.
I didn't see any mugshots from Westgate but I did notice that the owner of "Touch of Asia" was picked up yesterday and charged with "Continuing Criminal Enterprise" and "Promoting Prostitution". Two serious charges that will have all the other AMP owners considering their next move.
Several AMP's are connected by having the same ownership / family ties. If I remember correctly Westgate, Touch of Asia and two other AMP's, that will not be named, use to rotate girls among the stores. I use to book a favorite girl at one AMP and the manager would tell me that she was not here but I could see her at this other store.
I didn't see any mugshots from Westgate but I did notice that the owner of "Touch of Asia" was picked up yesterday and charged with "Continuing Criminal Enterprise" and "Promoting Prostitution". Two serious charges that will have all the other AMP owners considering their next move.The way this usually shakes out in the end is these stores in question will fall under new ownership at some point. Wait and see.
Stopped by this place for the second time as usual "have you been here before" yes I have that's why I am back. Great response if I do say so myself. 7 for an hour she must have been tired or over worked message was mediocre at best. Short, nice rack very fun after flip. I have been to many spa's and I usually just leave happy but this was the happiest I have ever left a spa full menu. She wanted $. 2 we agreed we agreed an $. She gave me a different name this time so I guess name wouldn't help anyone. I will be back for sure.This morning when I went to see one of my regulars and I discovered WestGate was closed thought I would give Rainbow a try. Greeted at the door by a fairly attractive tall lady I'm guessing early 30's taken to the room in comes a short Korean late 30's early 40's but attractive, athletic body. One hour plus finish 70/120. Very playful very good English, massage 5, body 7 safe playful fun 9. Will repeat.
The gentleman who was arrested didn't own Touch of Asia or any other shops in the area. Don't believe everything you read. My girl had the best quote I've heard in a while. She said the police are like mad dogs looking for someone to bite. Priceless.
The gentleman who was arrested didn't own Touch of Asia or any other shops in the area. Don't believe everything you read. My girl had the best quote I've heard in a while. She said the police are like mad dogs looking for someone to bite. Priceless.Here is the quote from ABC 11 and the reference links is below. Everyone can judge for themselves on who is doing what and how deep this investigation might go.
Quote. The Apex Police Department said it is working with other area law enforcement agencies on the case. It said "common persons of interest" own more than 15 massage parlors in the Raleigh / Wake County area as well as in Johnston County, Charlotte, Greensboro, and Wilmington areas.
http://abc11.com/news/3-charged-after-raid-at-apex-massage-parlor/1566522/
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article109621932.html
Here is the quote from ABC 11 and the reference links is below. Everyone can judge for themselves on who is doing what and how deep this investigation might go.
Quote. The Apex Police Department said it is working with other area law enforcement agencies on the case. It said "common persons of interest" own more than 15 massage parlors in the Raleigh / Wake County area as well as in Johnston County, Charlotte, Greensboro, and Wilmington areas.
http://abc11.com/news/3-charged-after-raid-at-apex-massage-parlor/1566522/
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article109621932.htmlI think we all agree trafficking or forcing anyone for this purpose is illegal and wrong and they should come down with all their might if it involves an under age girl 100% not acceptable. Is it happening? Anyone would be a fool to say maybe or no of course it happens, why? Because everything revolves around money. Now as far as the legal part, anyone can accuse this guy or others of bringing these girls here and making them work off the debt or prostituting them in his stores, if they were his stores. But these are just accusations, if it ain't in writing such as checks or some other hand written document or on tape or video or stored in the cloud IT NEVER happened and will be hard to prove in a court room. It's one persons word against another persons word you have to have tangible evidence a paper or electronic trail. These stores biggest legal problems are 1. Customers using CC for payment it leaves a financial sale if not reported on taxes can come back to haunt them if ever investigated. 2. Hiring girls with no massage license 3. Paying employees and a lease month after month and never filing a tax return for the store. These 3 things will get the OWNER in deep shit if the store is ever investigated and can close a store. As far as the girl getting busted for doing a dirty deed for a tip this will get HER busted and the owner simply say's I didn't know she was doing it she's fired so the owner is not liable UNLESS she didn't have a license. And I've said it before when we seem to cover this topic if a store is being videoed or watched by LE it does not threaten the customer. The customer has the right to enter and exit any business open to the public. A person can be going into a massage parlor or Walmart to get a HJ, you got to get caught to be breaking the law. If you are not caught then it is assumed you are going in Walmart for towels or the massage parlor for a massage. So they can accuse this guy or any owner about anything but they got to have some lets see what do they call it? Oh yea EVIDENCE! Do they have some evidence on this guy? I guess we will find out on future news reports. Same thing applies to the BP girls.
ExpectMore
10-22-16, 19:43
The abc11 report mentions something about surveillance videos (from over a month) and claiming that men were getting more than a touch! What is the possibility that they release the surveillance videos of the mongers visiting the establishment to the public? Can they do that?
Before anyone judges this one way or another please wait till all the facts are out. Not what some video on the news or newspaper article says. I was in that court room yesterday and I wished they would have shown the whole proceedings on the video. I watched a the lie through her teeth about evidence and I have pictures to prove she lied. It took every bit of self control not to stand up and say look at these pictures she's lying. Think about this he was charged with prostitution but of who. What girls were charged with prostitution. All these girls were charged with massage without a license. To show how little research the article and police did look at the address on his mugshot and the address they said the girls apartment was Haha that's the Apex police station. Believe me I know where their apartment is and it's not the police department. The last thing they always throw the human trafficking thing in there but have you ever gotten a massage from someone who you felt was being trafficked I can honestly say that I have not.
Massage any more? It seems all the ladies go straight for the gold on the flip nowadays. Is there any AMP that still provides a decent front massage?Yes, just ask for good front massage at 003 Asian Remedy. Send me PM for a name if you wish, but several there offer good massage work.
VIP ASIAN SPA Youngsville. Dreamed about _i got a name but rules are rules. 7-9 looks, 28 and muscular legs. $$. 6 left very happy and great massage and table washed too. I will try to get back before she leaves.To me the $$. 6 is on high side. The house fee (. 8) is the highest in the area and a nude handshake ( $ ) is also the highest in the area. The main thing here is that you left very happy, but if you try #0050 then you would save at least (. 7).
The abc11 report mentions something about surveillance videos (from over a month) and claiming that men were getting more than a touch! What is the possibility that they release the surveillance videos of the mongers visiting the establishment to the public? Can they do that?*Questioned.
*Charged!
*Innocent Until Proven Guilty.
*Evidence.
*Decision to proceed to be tried in a court of law or deported.
The most important word above is "evidence" as I stated in my long winded post before. Without it they got nothing. Now about your question about surveillance video. This would only confirm that the business had customers. Does not prove any crime was committed. But I know what you are really asking holy shit can they show that on TV? My wife and others could see what my real hobby is LOL, If this really scares you or any others out there you may want to take up golf or bowling because you have probably been on video more than you know. Not sure if they would show this to the public because the video would be considered evidence and a defense attorney for him would jump on that like white on rice if they released it to sway public opinion. The first sentence in the ABC 11 report says Apex Police got "A" complaint. Just one complaint? From who? Like Tee98 said lets wait and see.
Oh almost forgot to say, I voted today woohoo
Whew that was close.Your post raises several important questions. What are the possible ramifications for visiting an AMP when it is being investigated or when its staff is being charged by LEO? How can we protect ourselves? Has anyone on this forum run into legal issues simply for visiting an AMP?
Maybe others with greater knowledge will share advice. I plan to continue to visit AMPs but I certainly hope to minimize the risk. Several AMPs offer nothing further than good massage therapy and seem strictly legit. I do repeat visits at those AMPs if the massage therapy is good. Some AMPs seem to vary what is on offer depending on staff of the day. Such has been the case at Superrelax Chinese Spa, number 0001 on JJ's list. Sometimes 0001 offers a bit more, sometime a bit less, but still worth going if in need of deep tissue work (which I need) and still a far better choice than many of the Massage Envy type chains. Should we worry about any particular legal issues if we frequent AMPs? Call me risk averse.
Before anyone judges this one way or another please wait till all the facts are out. Not what some video on the news or newspaper article says. I was in that court room yesterday and I wished they would have shown the whole proceedings on the video. I watched a the lie through her teeth about evidence and I have pictures to prove she lied. It took every bit of self control not to stand up and say look at these pictures she's lying. Think about this he was charged with prostitution but of who. What girls were charged with prostitution. All these girls were charged with massage without a license. To show how little research the article and police did look at the address on his mugshot and the address they said the girls apartment was Haha that's the Apex police station. Believe me I know where their apartment is and it's not the police department. The last thing they always throw the human trafficking thing in there but have you ever gotten a massage from someone who you felt was being trafficked I can honestly say that I have not.A good and important post. I had trouble following one part, which may have had a couple of words omitted. You will have far more info than others since you actually attended the court room proceedings and I wondered who had lied. I could not quite follow this sentence: "I watched a the lie through her teeth about evidence and I have pictures to prove she lied. " But excellent point about the apartment address being the Apex police station. And also good point about the charges for the girls simply being practicing without a license. I would also concur that I have never felt I received a massage from someone being trafficked. Last time I went to an AMP (yesterday) it was closing time. Boss and all others had gone. Person giving me the massage could easily have left of her own accord if under any duress. I would have given her a lift if needed. And that has always seemed to be the case. I have had dinner offers and other offers from the girls, which underscores freedom of movement and freedom of choice. I am guessing that has been your observation as well. Any thoughts on what we can do to improve the current situation?
1. NC definition of prostitution includes any money exchanged for the release of semen so if you tip for a handshake you just patronize for prostitution in NC.
2. Human trafficking doesn't have to be just chained in the basement. If anyone is moved from one location to another and forced to work then it's human trafficking.
3. I've seen plenty of arrests that list the address of where LE works. People get brought in and released while others are charged and booked, Nothing unusual there and the articles clearly listed where the gentleman lived in Durham and where the girls lived in Apex.
3. Did you see that the main charge against the gentleman? Continuing criminal enterprise is the charge and it's based on being involved in various criminal business activities from other investigations that have pointed back to this man at Touch of Asia.
4. The news only reports what the District Attorney and the Police Chief tells them. Do you think they told the news reporter everything? No they didn't and that's standard procedure with an open investigation till the person is tried in court and ruling given.
5. Yes, I've seen Human Trafficking. In the early 2000's there was a national trafficking bust that involved Los Angles, Chicago, New York and Washington D. C. Girls were promised jobs in the USA to pay off debt at home or just get a new start. Once they arrived their passport was taken and they were forced to work in massage parlors with full menus till they earned X amount of dollars. These girls are afraid that if there families found out what they were doing they would "lose face". Honor is very important in the Asian culture. I met some nice girls and you wouldn't really know it if you saw human trafficking so things are more then meets the eye sometimes. I've commented about my experience with this on another forum in the past.
Sorry about that it was the district attorney who lied. I am very involved in this case and it's very personal to me. I wish I could tell you guys what I know but not on an open forum it would put someone I care alot about at risk. There is so much more that has happened and you guys probably wouldn't believe me. This is just a fraction of information I can give. I wasn't in the court room because I was curious I was there for a reason. I know so many of these girls outside of their work place they are my friends and they are not trafficked some even have there own cars.
Sorry about that it was the district attorney who lied. I am very involved in this case and it's very personal to me. I wish I could tell you guys what I know but not on an open forum it would put someone I care alot about at risk. There is so much more that has happened and you guys probably wouldn't believe me. This is just a fraction of information I can give. I wasn't in the court room because I was curious I was there for a reason. I know so many of these girls outside of their work place they are my friends and they are not trafficked some even have there own cars.You are involved because you know the individuals personally so this is a sensitive topic with you. I understand that and I'm not personally attacking you, the charged man or the girls. I like to be objective and state things how things are whether I agree or disagree with what I see. You might know the parties involved better than most but everyone has secrets. I have secrets that my mother and my SO doesn't know. One being this hobby and do you think I want either to know? No way and there not going to know! How about this website? My SO thinks I spend too much time on Facebook. That's because I want her to believe that when I'm really doing other things. How about going shopping or going to the gym? Well, I go get a massage first and then go get what needs to be done afterwards. SO says, "you must have had a good time shopping or working out". Of course I play along, because its what I want her to believe. A massage is a small thing and a handshake is a small thing but to some ladies you're having an affair or you like the petite Chinese girls better. All I'm saying is there more about people then we all really know or sometimes want to believe especially when we think we know a particular person. When there is large amounts of money involved, as it appears to be in this case, it can change a person. As for the DA or the LE chief well when they get their orders they have to do their job too and present to the judge what evidence they have or think they have. Same as good public defendant and their job is too get their client off even if they know their client might be guilty. Its all up to the jury and how they see the evidence.
It's unfortunate for the girls, because they might be use to things being a certain way in China or Flushing, NY but else where they have to adjust and follow the rules of licensing / certification if they want to avoid possible trouble with the law. I might can drive 9 over the posted speed limit here in NC but if I cross the VA state line I'm going down to 4 over because I'll get ticketed if I don't. Same with these girls and they might have to quit there job and get certified or move to a state that isn't so strict on the certification enforcement.
\ 5. Yes, I've seen Human Trafficking. In the early 2000's there was a national trafficking bust that involved Los Angles, Chicago, New York and Washington D. C. Girls were promised jobs in the USA to pay off debt at home or just get a new start. Once they arrived their passport was taken and they were forced to work in massage parlors with full menus till they earned X amount of dollars. These girls are afraid that if there families found out what they were doing they would "lose face". Honor is very important in the Asian culture. I met some nice girls and you wouldn't really know it if you saw human trafficking so things are more then meets the eye sometimes. I've commented about my experience with this on another forum in the past.A helpful factual analysis of current situation. Especially point 5, which I also read about in the news. The work situation may well be difficult to read. One female was my regular AMP go-to here in this area for more than two years. I saw her license, which I assumed was valid. Her English was good. She discussed opening her own AMP in another city after making enough money. I learned she was married to an American husband and commuted to her job by car. I stayed with her as long as she was employed in this area because she did great deep tissue work. Perhaps not the norm to find this sort of situation, so file for now under minority report.
Sorry about that it was the district attorney who lied. I am very involved in this case and it's very personal to me. I wish I could tell you guys what I know but not on an open forum it would put someone I care alot about at risk. There is so much more that has happened and you guys probably wouldn't believe me. This is just a fraction of information I can give. I wasn't in the court room because I was curious I was there for a reason. I know so many of these girls outside of their work place they are my friends and they are not trafficked some even have there own cars.Very sorry to hear about these difficulties. Sounds as if you are trying to help those who need and deserve help. Wishing you good luck. Hope you get support.
ExpectMore
10-23-16, 15:42
My wife and others could see what my real hobby is LOL, If this really scares you or any others out there you may want to take up golf or bowling because you have probably been on video more than you know. I understand evidence is the king! And you did read my concerns correctly in here.
I would not say that really scares me, but public exposure would be a significant inconvenience I would like to avoid (if there is any path which may lead to it, hence the question). However, what you said also piques my curiosity? If you have a significant partner is she ok with you visiting AMPs, or is this acceptable with the significant partners of other people in this board?
I also understand that there are few other people in this board who may have more to lose than just the fallout of public exposure of showing them visiting AMPs (so yeah, my concern is not a big problem).
Funny about that news report. Uncovered evidence of human trafficking. Even funner how so many accept that as a fact. Even seasoned visitors to the AMPs. This world is so full of BS. I guess these girls who were arrested were freed from this forced bondage and given a safe house to stay in. Oh, wait a minute, it says these ladies were middle aged and rather plain looking. Not really fits the discription of sex slaves. I'm so confused. Oh well.
Funny about that news report. Uncovered evidence of human trafficking. Even funner how so many accept that as a fact. Even seasoned visitors to the AMPs. This world is so full of BS. I guess these girls who were arrested were freed from this forced bondage and given a safe house to stay in. Oh, wait a minute, it says these ladies were middle aged and rather plain looking. Not really fits the discription of sex slaves. I'm so confused. Oh well.The sex slave statement by LE or the Media is a good way for them to dramatize their story or the arrest report. The Asian sex slave industry is not on a massive level as they suggest, it's usually some American fucker with a girl in his basement that escapes if she's lucky or some sick dad pimping out his daughter for crack money. This is what I see in the news once in awhile I never read about any Asians doing this. Are there some Asians pimping out some girls? This is a big and free country I'm sure it's happening somewhere. These Chinese / Koreans have an extensive network of communication. So if there is a pattern of let's call them Asian Pimps sweet talking girls back home to catch a plane to the USA but then the promises made are not kept. This type of information gets back to the home land quick. These Asians in this industry have their own social media also it's called QQ & Wechat, I'm sure these girls are told you can go to America and make more in one month than you can make in China in 6 months. Most all of them check it out online or with people they know already here before they leave their homeland to come to a strange country. Do all of them come here And make big cash like promised? Of course not, some can't speak a lick of English and have never done a massage in their life. Back to the communication part, there are Chinese websites that have hundreds of massage jobs all over this country, they use these websites, Wecat, QQ, contact friends or relatives to find work. You don't have to speak English to find and make contact with a store because these websites are in their native language it usually gives all the info they need. A store owner will make the arangements to have a girl picked up and brought to the store if the girl has difficulty doing herself. They can get her a bus ticket and taxi and have her there pronto if it's in another State or pick them up or a taxi if it's local. The slave obligation to a owner is possible but that would mean she would have had to borrow thousands of dollars from the owner while she was in China for a plane ticket etc. Then come to the owners store to work it off. Possible? Yes but none of the owners I know would front that kind of money for a girl back in China that he or she has no idea if she will be a return on the investment or she will stay in the store until the debt is paid or even show up at the store once her little feet hit the ground. There are thousands of girls already here to choose from. Why go through ALL THIS TROUBLE AND RISK for one little skinny girl?
And even if she paid her own ticket and expenses to get here there is no commitment to the owner! Now this is just called basic business risk assessment or as my kindergarten teacher would call it "common sense". So the notion that there are Chinese Pimps lending these girls thousands of dollars to get here then keeping them enslave in a store that they can't leave is a little bazaar. If there are a few girls out there that are in trouble God bless them I hope a customer will see what's happening and help them. But the major point or bigger picture on the subject is LE and the media sometimes can try to take any story and paint it with a wide brush and it's simply not the case. The biggest problems I have seen these girls face that involved an owner is I have known some of these girls to get their ass in a business deal where they fucked up that involved them trying to get their own store. But I have never heard any rumor within my Intel sources about any forced labor or forced sex and neither has my girlfriend and believe me she would know. These girls have a vast network of communication that can get them out of any situation they are in and that's not bull shitting like some of these news stories its a fact.
Why not shit can all this talk about traffickers lurking behind every AMP. Hippie knows his stuff. Why encourage the beast by believing this garbage reported in the news rags. Thanks again, hippie.
I agree with a lot XHippie has to say and the police and the media use the phrase "human trafficking" to put that horrific image in people's minds to sway opinions. When I worked for the Federal government in Washington DC in the early to mid 2000's there was a world wide crackdown on human trafficking. Then President Bush with the Department of Justice held the first-ever national training conference on human trafficking in Tampa, Florida. A year later President Bush signed HR 972, the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2005. Now I was regular at several Korean Parlors in DC during this time and not long after they all closed. Even today you can't find a FS Parlor in DC and if you do; it's underground. The owner of the place I liked the most in Dupont Circle was arrested for human trafficking and she was part of a ring that was rotating girls to different parlors throughout the country. You know I quit the hobby for 5 years after that because it's sobering to know that you had a part in something that the girls had no choice in doing. An older Korean house lady watched over the girls but they had no freedom and they were simply a cash cow for an enterprise of people who valued money over a person's worth.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/magazine/the-girls-next-door.html?_r=0
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/books-and-monographs/trafficking.pdf
Today it is still a problem in bigger cities where wealth is more concentrated and sex slaves still exist because evil people prey on the weak and vulnerable which is usually the young. A person can be in servitude over a debt and this too is a form of sex slavery if they have no other choice and forced to work in a brothel, parlor or strip club. In 2016 the Justice Department ranked NC as 10th in the country for human trafficking and Charlotte 1st among NC cities. Asians might be on the small scale but other nationalities are not and a few, is a few too many.
http://www.wbtv.com/story/30958950/human-trafficking-a-charlotte-womans-journey-from-enslavement-to-salvation
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article54153290.html
To me the $$. 6 is on high side. The house fee (. 8) is the highest in the area and a nude handshake ( $ ) is also the highest in the area. The main thing here is that you left very happy, but if you try #0050 then you would save at least (. 7).I agree, it was FS and I got licked in places I had not been licked before.
I agree, it was FS and I got licked in places I had not been licked before.
Not saying you did but this is why you should never DFK any of these ladies. Cause if she licked you she licked the guy before you.
MedJohnson
10-24-16, 10:56
Not saying you did but this is why you should never DFK any of these ladies. Cause if she licked you she licked the guy before you.A friend told me there is mouthwash in the TS area. Just what I heard.
MedJohnson
10-24-16, 12:30
0026 WestGaopente CLOSED!Drove past this place today and the open sign was lit. Had company so could not further investigate, but having sign on seems like good indication.
I noticed 0040 Green Apple is advertising "very skilled Korean girls". I'm wondering if that has any impact on the menu. Anyone been recently?
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-no-top-quality-relaxation-very-skilled-korean-girls/30716543I've been there recently, two girls when I was there fairly young looking one a little thick the other petite wearing short shorts. Both face's would give a 4, the petite one massaged me great English, body 6, massage 7 not too comfortable with roaming, no removal of clothing. She was good at giving the tease and touching but not receiving. They are Korean but it's a rub & tug only I asked what was on the menu and if any tip would influence the menu nope! It's ok but will not repeat better options out there.
MedJohnson
10-24-16, 17:18
Went by 0050 Sunday, sign on, parking lot full, door locked. Thought, maybe just busy. Swing by today, light off, parking lot empty, door locked. This has happened in the past, so hopefully no big deal, but anyone have any intel?
Stay safe.
Med.
MedJohnson
10-24-16, 17:25
Saw a new ad for Green Lotus Flower in Raleigh. Ad says western blvd but really jones franklin. Only advertised in massages so I didn't have great hopes, and my instincts were right. Cute Chinese girl in jeans and scrub top, so even less likely. No TS- getting worse. She tells me 10 $ and you can shower yourself. (I'll do it at home for free!
Anyway, nice setting, bright lights and full cover throughout. Legit and good massage, no tease, no finish but overall pretty good massage. Went elsewhere for a finish. . 7 door and. 2 tip.
Been open 3 weeks so maybe the menu will open up, but doubtful.
Both have signs that say, "We Are Temporarily Closed for Remodeling". Nothing in the news specifically about either one.
Both have signs that say, "We Are Temporarily Closed for Remodeling". Nothing in the news specifically about either one.Yea I haven't seen anything in the news either.
I don't know about you guys but whenever one of these places closes temporarily or changes owners I've never seen a remodel job when they reopen. I think most of these places that are being closed here lately is related to the lack of a massage license. There are only 2 owners that Got checked for massage license that remained opened and that is 0007 & 0008 and that's because these owners actually have a NC Massage license and they are actually working in the store giving massages so they can keep running their business. Unfortunately they are the only ones that can work in the store now. But these other places if the owner is some guy with a massage license and all his girls have no license he's out of business. And if nobody has a massage license well it's dead in the water. And there is the possibility some of these owners are seeing and hearing what's going down with some of these places so they are just closing shop and laying low. My hunch is that's why Westgate closed, Garner Remodeling? I don't think so. The possible outcome to what we've been posting about lately about stores closing their doors or store getting busted or the fear of human trafficking is. The current situation with the stores is they are out in the open doing business right along side other business's. So the Massage Board, Massage Envy and LE knows where they are and hell fire they can even read the reviews that we do on this board about if a HJ is given here or there. But if LE and the massage board puts too much of a squeeze on this business they will force the supply and demand for HE to go underground. That supply & demand won't go away and if they put the Asian Parlors out of business because of a massage license problem it's not like it's going to make Massage Envy's profit margin any better. And I think the PM will increase leaving those with wondering eyes how the fuck are we suppose to track these swinging dicks now? Who's stupid idea was it to shut these Asian folks down? Don't we have some real shit we can work on making our neighborhoods safer. This has played out in some of the bigger cities where they came down hard on the Parlors, LA, NY. The girls just switched to pushing ass out of their apartments until the dust settled. That apartment market is already being tested here. Thank god whoever designed this board and included PM. If this gets worse we may be using a lot more of it in the future. Oh and those LE and Massage Board Ass Wipe's wondering eyes reading this (Like Al Pachino said in Scent Of A Woman) FUCK YOU TOO!!!
HotMassage
10-25-16, 21:13
The neon open sign was off yesterday evening and tonight. I called and the house lady said the girls had things to do and we're not available for massages. Another victim I feel and this really sucks.
Lumbergh1974
10-26-16, 07:39
Went to Green Apple yesterday. Guy next door yelled over at me, "The police came" as I tried the door. Sounds like a giant coordinated crackdown now?
MedJohnson
10-26-16, 08:45
Was in the area yesterday and 0050 was still closed. Went around the corner and had a great massage.
Stay safe.
Med.
JakeLaMotta69
10-26-16, 10:56
I was at a local cafe yesterday and I overheard an unknown person describing to a buddy the intimate details of an incident that they experienced earlier that day. I've repeated here verbatim as best I can remember exactly what I heard:
Had some time to kill, so I stopped in at XXXXXXXXXXX (JJ0040) for a massage. I asked for 1/2 hour since I needed to return to work. The hostess was a young and chunky (but cute) Korean (I think) girl wearing a low-cut top who showed me to the room. I asked if she would be performing the massage, but she told me no, another "pretty young girl" will do the massage. I went in, got undressed and laid down. When the masseuse came in she was surprisingly young and cute, with short hair, jean shorts and a t-shirt. I would guess her age as mid to late 20's, maybe early 30's, but surprisingly young and cute. I could sense her good attitude, and I got a vibe that this would be a decent experience. One or two other rooms were occupied and I could hear the conversation, so I decided to remain fairly silent.
She started the massage with some light touching. After a few minutes she asked if she could use some cream and I said yes. She then started a medium massage which was one of the better therapeutic massages that I have recently received. She would climb up on the table and straddle me and I could feel the soft skin on her well-shaven legs, which was very nice. She took her time massaging me all over and made sure to include lots of skip-to-skin contact. She also did some neck, hair, and scalp massaging which is nice if done right (which she did right). When the massage part was coming to an end, she tested the waters by gently teasing the boys. She had a very nice soft touch. I moaned very softly and she whispered in my ear, asking if I liked that. I said, yes, very nice. She promptly left returning with a hot towel to remove the cream. She then started the teasing part of the session which was as good a tease as I've experienced in the Triangle. She very gently worked her fingers softly up both legs, converging ever so gently on the boys, blowing warm breath on me as she went along. She would then work up my back to my neck and ears, again gently blowing as she moved up my back. As an added bonus, her breath was not full of garlic (which can sometimes ruin the blowing technique). She then moved slowly back down continuing the tease of my boys and a little backdoor play. I was really starting to enjoy myself when I heard someone enter the place and utter in an authoritative male voice the words that us brothers hope to never hear: "POLICE!
I immediately jumped up off the table and quietly repeated to my masseuse, "Police". She seemed fairly unconcerned, but I immediately began getting dressed. I could hear the alleged LEO demanding to see their NC State Massage License. He continued saying that it's against the law to perform massage without a license in the State of NC and it's a misdemeanor. My masseuse left the room and several girls convened at the front where Uncle LEO was badgering the Mamasan. They started speaking to one another in their native language and he demanded "Speak English! The Mamasan picked up the phone and he asked what are you doing. She said calling my lawyer and he said, no hang up the phone. Uncle LEO walked down the hallway rapping some metallic object on the doors announcing to the occupants "Get Dressed!" He then returned to the front of the shop to continue haranguing the Mamasan.
Now dressed, my heart racing, I was contemplating what to do. I actually considered exiting through the back door, but then dropped that idea, as I knew I hadn't done anything illegal. One of the customers in the room next to mine had began to leave and I heard LEO ask him, who are you. He replied that he was visiting the area. LEO asked him what he was doing in that establishment and he replied, getting a massage. LEO said that's all I need to know, get out of here. He again turned to the Mamasan and said performing massages without a license is illegal. He continued, saying that they have had complaints about prostitution at this locale; is that what is happening here? I figured that now was my chance, so I started for the door. LEO looked me up and down and asked what I was doing there. I said I was in town on business. He asked me if I had I-D on me and I said, no. He asked where my I-D was and I said, in my car. He snidely remarked "In your car? I bet if I went to your car I would find your drivers license and your wedding band. " I wanted to respond "You won't find my wedding band because I'm not married", which I am not, but I am no idiot and I held my tongue. He said "I'm not stupid, I know what goes on in these places. Now get out and don't come back!" I made a quick exit of the establishment and high-tailed out of the parking lot.
Again, this is just what I heard. You can judge as to the validity.
For what it's worth because some question RM post. Two post made yesterday that visits were made yesterday to WestGate and Lotus in Raleigh. Lotus standard visit, WestGate was much different massage only no menu. Judge for yourself or check them out. Only passing along what I read.
RubaDubdub01
10-26-16, 12:19
So it has finally happened. Looking through BP and lo and behold I see a girl I know socially! Would have never guessed this was her part time job! Now the question is do I schedule a visit? Must admit, I got a ragging boner instantly when I saw her ad. Anyone else ever see a lady they know??
So it has finally happened. Looking through BP and lo and behold I see a girl I know socially! Would have never guessed this was her part time job! Now the question is do I schedule a visit? Must admit, I got a ragging boner instantly when I saw her ad. Anyone else ever see a lady they know??Not in this game but I once took a sales rep out for dinner and some drinks with several other business associates just to relax before the next day's meeting. Finished dinner and we all went to the bar, one by one the others left. So we got pretty shit faced together and she started coming on to me big time. She always looked attractive and business like. But holy shit when she got naked she had one of those stripper bodies perfect round ass and one inch nipples and was very athletic on top of me LOL, she was AA. She slept over that night and breakfast in bed the next morning was just as good because we were not as drunk. But the point is when ever I went to that company or she came here it was an interesting vibe at the conference table between the two of us with 10 other people in the room or we were just standing around chatting a little strange to say the least. So I say if you know this girl go for it you may get the same vibe when you and her bump into one another. Now if she is a blabber mouth and hangs with people that know your wife, girl friend, family or friends etc, may have to be a little careful.
TheSting24
10-26-16, 12:55
Dude, that is awesome. What an opportunity! Hell yes you schedule a meeting. This could evolve into a FWB situation down the road. IF you are telling the truth, my opinion is you may have struck an oil well. Or a gold mine.
S.
So it has finally happened. Looking through BP and lo and behold I see a girl I know socially! Would have never guessed this was her part time job! Now the question is do I schedule a visit? Must admit, I got a ragging boner instantly when I saw her ad. Anyone else ever see a lady they know??
NCHobbyist69
10-26-16, 12:56
So it has finally happened. Looking through BP and lo and behold I see a girl I know socially! Would have never guessed this was her part time job! Now the question is do I schedule a visit? Must admit, I got a ragging boner instantly when I saw her ad. Anyone else ever see a lady they know??Yes, at my gym I ran into a girl I'd seen several times. We exchanged knowing smiles but that was it. Pretty cool though.
So it has finally happened. Looking through BP and lo and behold I see a girl I know socially! Would have never guessed this was her part time job! Now the question is do I schedule a visit? Must admit, I got a ragging boner instantly when I saw her ad. Anyone else ever see a lady they know??Yep, there have been two that I actually knew. One of them I did see.
So it has finally happened. Looking through BP and lo and behold I see a girl I know socially! Would have never guessed this was her part time job! Now the question is do I schedule a visit? Must admit, I got a ragging boner instantly when I saw her ad. Anyone else ever see a lady they know??I have a friend who recently moved back to the raleigh area tell me his ex wife was on BP. I never saw her ad or I would have hit her up. She was smokin hot when they were together. Unfortunately demons got ahold of her and she's gone way down hill.
I decided to visit Clayton and see if they might be open. The lights were off, the door was locked and no sign was on the door. I like this AMP so let's hope it's just a temporary closure.
For what it's worth because some question RM post. Two post made yesterday that visits were made yesterday to WestGate and Lotus in Raleigh. Lotus standard visit, WestGate was much different massage only no menu. Judge for yourself or check them out. Only passing along what I read.I wasn't too far away so I swung by 0036 Lotus not for a visit by just a looksee, they were closed.
Got a late start today and after turning down the woman that opened the door from this Asian ad http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/t-n-i-c-e-sexy-asian-girl-nasha-757-822-0325/23402759 .
I went by 001 and 002 tonight just before 9:30 but they were both closed or open sign was off. I also drove over to Rose and they were closed (don't they usually stay open til 11? Anyway is something happening around here? Could they be worried about the recent busts or was I just late? I've never seen any of them closed before 10:30.
Got a late start today and after turning down the woman that opened the door from this Asian ad http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/t-n-i-c-e-sexy-asian-girl-nasha-757-822-0325/23402759 .
I went by 001 and 002 tonight just before 9:30 but they were both closed or open sign was off. I also drove over to Rose and they were closed (don't they usually stay open til 11? Anyway is something happening around here? Could they be worried about the recent busts or was I just late? I've never seen any of them closed before 10:30.I'm not seeing anything in the local news, like I said the other day I just have a hunch word is spreading fast among the owners and they are just closing up shop until they figure what's going on just a guess. When arrest are made and Chinese pictures and names are all over the news its makes them real nervous.
MedJohnson
10-27-16, 06:19
Got a late start today and after turning down the woman that opened the door from this Asian ad http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/t-n-i-c-e-sexy-asian-girl-nasha-757-822-0325/23402759 .
I went by 001 and 002 tonight just before 9:30 but they were both closed or open sign was off. I also drove over to Rose and they were closed (don't they usually stay open til 11? Anyway is something happening around here? Could they be worried about the recent busts or was I just late? I've never seen any of them closed before 10:30.Not sure either. I was at 0037 recently, arrived at 8:30 and soon after they were turning folks away. Plenty of girls, just didn't want late customers I guess.
I know 0001 has been having trouble with staffing. 1 girl was commuting from raleigh to the Durham store so she wasn't getting home and settled until almost midnight so she wasn't real happy.
Lots of the girls have told me they are going to NYC- apparently cheap travel right now- they say they are coming back, but one never knows.
Stay safe.
Med.
Got a late start today and after turning down the woman that opened the door from this Asian ad http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/t-n-i-c-e-sexy-asian-girl-nasha-757-822-0325/23402759 .
I went by 001 and 002 tonight just before 9:30 but they were both closed or open sign was off. I also drove over to Rose and they were closed (don't they usually stay open til 11? Anyway is something happening around here? Could they be worried about the recent busts or was I just late? I've never seen any of them closed before 10:30.Sorry, I meant to say 001 and 0037.
MedJohnson
10-27-16, 19:15
Went past 0009 (related to 0001 I believe) today and it looks very closed. Had licenses posted behind register but no telling if they were real or not. Haven't seen any news items so I am thinking folks are just hunkering down for a while.
Stay safe.
Med.
Sorry, I meant to say 001 and 0037.Let's see, Hummm recent reports of definite or possible closings. Raleigh, Durham, Garner, Apex, Knightdale, Cary, Clayton. Is anybody compiling a list? I'm loosing track of who is open. Should JJ's list include a Question Mark beside the store number? Just kidding JJ you don't need a added chore. I really feel sorry for the person that has that lease payment due every month.
TheSting24
10-28-16, 09:41
I read this yesterday on a news site in Miami that I check daily.
This happened in Hollywood, FL which is right outside of Ft. Lauderdale.
Hollywood police have arrested two dozen suspects in a massive operation targeting prostitution at massage parlors in the city, officials said Thursday. (Published Thursday, Oct. 27,2016).
Hollywood police have arrested two dozen suspects in a massive operation targeting prostitution at massage parlors in the city, officials said Thursday.
"Operation Red Light" was a five-month investigation that targeted prostitution and human trafficking at 20 different locations, police said.
Undercover officers from Hollywood Police and USA Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Homeland Security Investigations found evidence that women were performing sexual acts on customers at the massage parlors.
Investigators also found beds, clothing and food that showed some of the women were living in the parlors, and some of the women admitted they were living there, police said.
Hollywood police have arrested two dozen suspects in a massive operation targeting prostitution at massage parlors in the city, officials said Thursday. "Operation Red Light" was a five-month investigation that targeted prostitution and human trafficking at 20 different locations, police said. (Published Thursday, Oct. 27,2016).
"These women face charges of solicitation of prostitution, operating without a license, misrepresenting themselves as licensed massage therapists," Hollywood Police spokeswoman Miranda Grossman said.
Two of the women who are owners of massage parlors also face bribery charges. Giselle Guo, owner of Lucky Spa at 7060 Taft Street, and Yan Zheng, owner of Hollywood Unisex at 2126 Hollywood Boulevard, told an undercover detective they would pay him to provide protection from police and agreed to pay him $400 a month to keep officers away from the businesses, police said.
The parlors busted are:
Bonita Spa, 5450 S. SR 7 Ste 4, Hollywood FL.
Lucky Spa, 1637 S. 21st St. , Hollywood, FL.
Best Asian Massage, 6700 Taft St. , Hollywood, FL.
Ting Ting Spa, 6151 Washington St. , Hollywood, FL.
Fantasy Spa, 2106 Tyler St. , Hollywood, FL.
Asian Massage, 1943 Pembroke Rd. , Hollywood, FL.
Casino Spa, 5408 S. SR 7, Hollywood, FL.
Hollywood Asian Spa, 4622 Hollywood Boulevard, Hollywood, FL.
Sunshine Oriental Massage, 4211 and. SR 7, Hollywood, FL.
Relax Spa, 5892 Stirling Rd. , Hollywood, FL.
Asian Hollywood Spa, 2814 Hollywood Boulevard, Hollywood, FL.
Hollywood Unisex, 2126 Hollywood Boulevard, Hollywood, FL.
Spa Latinas, 5104 S. SR 7, Hollywood, FL.
Spa Latinas, 5102 S. SR 7, Hollywood, FL.
Xhale Spas, 5808 Johnson St. , Hollywood, FL.
New Life Massage, 5450 S. SR 7 Ste 5, Hollywood, FL.
Published at 5:45 PM EDT on Oct 27,2016.
Updated at 11:40 PM EDT on Oct 27,2016.
NBC 6 South Florida.
Same senerio over and over. Targeting human trafficking. Who are they protecting, I thought it would be the girls who are being forcibly trafficked but were they offered support by any government agencies and offered some type of protection? No, it just says they were charged with illegal massage. Screw this human trafficking BS. .
I read this yesterday on a news site in Miami that I check daily.
This happened in Hollywood, FL which is right outside of Ft. Lauderdale.
Hollywood police have arrested two dozen suspects in a massive operation targeting prostitution at massage parlors in the city, officials said Thursday. (Published Thursday, Oct. 27,2016).
Hollywood police have arrested two dozen suspects in a massive operation targeting prostitution at massage parlors in the city, officials said Thursday.
"Operation Red Light" was a five-month investigation that targeted prostitution and human trafficking at 20 different locations, police said.
Undercover officers from Hollywood Police and USA Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Homeland Security Investigations found evidence that women were performing sexual acts on customers at the massage parlors.
Investigators also found beds, clothing and food that showed some of the women were living in the parlors, and some of the women admitted they were living there, police said.
Hollywood police have arrested two dozen suspects in a massive operation targeting prostitution at massage parlors in the city, officials said Thursday. "Operation Red Light" was a five-month investigation that targeted prostitution and human trafficking at 20 different locations, police said. (Published Thursday, Oct. 27,2016).
"These women face charges of solicitation of prostitution, operating without a license, misrepresenting themselves as licensed massage therapists," Hollywood Police spokeswoman Miranda Grossman said.
Two of the women who are owners of massage parlors also face bribery charges. Giselle Guo, owner of Lucky Spa at 7060 Taft Street, and Yan Zheng, owner of Hollywood Unisex at 2126 Hollywood Boulevard, told an undercover detective they would pay him to provide protection from police and agreed to pay him $400 a month to keep officers away from the businesses, police said.
The parlors busted are:
Bonita Spa, 5450 S. SR 7 Ste 4, Hollywood FL.
Lucky Spa, 1637 S. 21st St. , Hollywood, FL.
Best Asian Massage, 6700 Taft St. , Hollywood, FL.
Ting Ting Spa, 6151 Washington St. , Hollywood, FL.
Fantasy Spa, 2106 Tyler St. , Hollywood, FL.
Asian Massage, 1943 Pembroke Rd. , Hollywood, FL.
Casino Spa, 5408 S. SR 7, Hollywood, FL.
Hollywood Asian Spa, 4622 Hollywood Boulevard, Hollywood, FL.
Sunshine Oriental Massage, 4211 and. SR 7, Hollywood, FL.
Relax Spa, 5892 Stirling Rd. , Hollywood, FL.
Asian Hollywood Spa, 2814 Hollywood Boulevard, Hollywood, FL.
Hollywood Unisex, 2126 Hollywood Boulevard, Hollywood, FL.
Spa Latinas, 5104 S. SR 7, Hollywood, FL.
Spa Latinas, 5102 S. SR 7, Hollywood, FL.
Xhale Spas, 5808 Johnson St. , Hollywood, FL.
New Life Massage, 5450 S. SR 7 Ste 5, Hollywood, FL.
Published at 5:45 PM EDT on Oct 27,2016.
Updated at 11:40 PM EDT on Oct 27,2016.
NBC 6 South Florida.I can understand these folks getting in trouble based on the violations you mentioned. But the living in the store is more of a misunderstanding of the AMP culture more than it relates to human trafficking. I have met many girls that actually prefer to live in the store the rents the same. And the reason is, if she lives in an apartment with 2, 3 4 or 5 girls. They have to get up really early because that is a house full of girls trying to shower and cook their meals at the same time and do laundry for the day their clothes which get oily and have to be cleaned or they will stain. Then ride to the store and most of the time there is a transportation fee with "some" owners for the week ain't nothing free! Then work 12/14 hours. Clean the store gather their things ride back to the apartment fight over the shower AGAIN then wash and dry the towel's WE spewed on. So if a store closes at 11:00 their head may hit the pillow at 12:30. Then BAM!! Time to get up and rock and roll again. But when a girl stays in the store she can get up later and go to bed sooner which means more rest. If she has to do laundry it's just much easier at the store. It's not like the 20 minute drive home is giving them a break from the store. If the store has a fridge a hot plate, washer and dryer and a table shower they are set that's as good as any apartment and sometimes not half as crowded or stressful. So a girl living in a store is not what it appears. But what I really wanted to say was I'm not sure what made me say holy shit all of those places got busted or holy shit that town had 16 HE stores whew wee!
This is an FBI driven operation with local police doing the ground work. Remember how they get most mafia heads it's by tax evasion. The guy they arrested last week and they said he owned Touch of Asia that is not true. They have only charged the 2 girls that worked there and no other girls have been charged because they had to have charges in order to raid all the girls apartments. This investigation has been going on since early 2015 and they already knew where the sleep apartments were. For those who don't know what a sleep apartment is its where a owner has set up a place for the girls to stay while they work in the store. There is no prostitution going on there. These girls are like gypsy's they are constantly moving from city to city. So they are raiding these apartments and confiscating all the girls money saying because it doesn't have much for furniture and only beds it must be a house for prostitution. They are scaring these girls badly. The FBI is saying this is organized crime because the money is being sent to owners in NY. None of the girls around here are trafficked as a matter of fact 11 of them stayed at my house for 2 days this week. They had nothing but the clothes on their backs because they were to frightened to go back to the raided apartment's. I took each group back to gather their stuff and made sure they were away from the area safe. Look at the charge against the guy they arrested statues 90-95 when you read it you will say WTF. They are going after the big fish in NY and using the local girls as bait. Remember tax evasion. On a more fun note having all these girls with only the clothes on their backs staying with me made my house a great place to be when they all decided to their laundry. They have no problem being naked around each other. Sometimes it good to be me.
This is an FBI driven operation with local police doing the ground work. Remember how they get most mafia heads it's by tax evasion. The guy they arrested last week and they said he owned Touch of Asia that is not true. They have only charged the 2 girls that worked there and no other girls have been charged because they had to have charges in order to raid all the girls apartments. This investigation has been going on since early 2015 and they already knew where the sleep apartments were. For those who don't know what a sleep apartment is its where a owner has set up a place for the girls to stay while they work in the store. There is no prostitution going on there. These girls are like gypsy's they are constantly moving from city to city. So they are raiding these apartments and confiscating all the girls money saying because it doesn't have much for furniture and only beds it must be a house for prostitution. They are scaring these girls badly. The FBI is saying this is organized crime because the money is being sent to owners in NY. None of the girls around here are trafficked as a matter of fact 11 of them stayed at my house for 2 days this week. They had nothing but the clothes on their backs because they were to frightened to go back to the raided apartment's. I took each group back to gather their stuff and made sure they were away from the area safe. Look at the charge against the guy they arrested statues 90-95 when you read it you will say WTF. They are going after the big fish in NY and using the local girls as bait. Remember tax evasion. On a more fun note having all these girls with only the clothes on their backs staying with me made my house a great place to be when they all decided to their laundry. They have no problem being naked around each other. Sometimes it good to be me.I'm jealous, but seriously these girls are very scared and confused now. I think once they gather their thoughts and belongings they are gone, stores under the microscope and no license not worth the risk many other jobs out there. Thanks for offering them a helping hand.
This is an FBI driven operation with local police doing the ground work.So for those who don't care to. Statutes 90-95 are all about drugs. Not just the sale, but manufacture, maintaining an address etc.
These are more in line with the Federal RICO charges that we have been seeing other owners popped for. Not good someone as they wind up in PMITA Federal Prison. Unfortunately, it is usually not the big fish but some intermediary.
The girls. Geez, what a shitty situation. I am guessing most of them will be picked up at some point and just hit with some BS charge to get them deported. Course, their home countries government will be made aware of such and they will likely be.
Imprisoned until they or their family hand over whatever amount the government thinks they made and illegally sent back. The fact that the FBI knew the sleep spots should scare the SHIT out of all of us. If they know that, then you can damn well bet there have been some license plate pictures made outside agencies in the area trying to see if they can find another shark amongst the shrimp. Might just be time to fuck the wife for a while. At least she will make me a sandwich after if I ask nicely.
All the more reason to vote Democrat this year. Hopefully, we can leverage some of the turning back of the laws the fetus people have pushed into a more rational discussion of non-victim crimes such as FBSM and Prostitution. But if they turn up one girl around here that is underage and they say was trafficked or indentured for wages all bets are off. The stakes in such jump up damn quick. Even to the point where there have been cases of underage sexual assault filed against mongers caught redhanded with a girl just on the wrong side of 18.
Neither of these are really girls I knew who I then saw advertising for sex, but close enough and the stories are good ones to learn from.
First one was over 25 years ago. Noticed that a girl working at the Doll House looked well, familiar. But our brains are programmed to see folks in their environments and identifiers are provided by location. So I didn't think anything else about it. Until 3 days later at the bank and lo and behold it was little MS. DeeDee Poleshiner behind the counter. I smiled really big as I was in line and she looked at me and sort of half smiled and frowned at the same time. By the time I got to her she had written something down on a teller slip and handed it to me first before taking my deposits and such. When I started to open it she said quietly 'Not here' and continued with the most professional banking transaction I have ever had.
Out in the car, I read the note. "Please please please do not make a scene. Do not tell the managers or anyone here what I also do. They would fire me as they have a strict ethics policy for folks that handle money. Here is my number. Call me after 6:30 tonight and we can go out to dinner and I will thank you in person for your discretion. XXX Her real name and her stripper name. ".
That began one of the best 3 weeks of my life. Every other night all up in this little tight sorority girl. She actually sort of enjoyed it after a bit when she realized I was not a serial killer or such. She and I had some common interests so we did lots of those activities. Then the crazy started leaking out of her. Her Daddy was paying for most everything. Apartment downtown, Clothes, fairly new Mercedes. Of course to keep that happening she had to have the good girl job at the bank. The stripping was to pay for her 'recreational' Bolivian marching powder. Which I began to notice was always enjoyed in large quantities before sex. She started calling me at odd times, showed up at my apartment one night while I was entertaining another young woman and she did not like that I asked her to leave via the 1 inch cracked door. Threatened to have one of her father's friends do some unkind things to me. I reminded her of the true nature of the relationship, blackmail, and she shut right up. I saw her off and on for the 6 months, my then fiancee was out of the country and then a week before she was due back told the stripper if I ever heard her voice again I would call her father who I had figured out was a VERY prominent lawyer / Politician in the town. Never heard a peep. Saw her occasionally at the Doll House. I would tell my friends I was with I fucked her. They always laughed.
The 2nd one. One of my high school crushes. Stopped to give a girl panhandling in the rain some money and it was her. Got her in the car. Short story, drugs and arrest and family disowned her. Nowhere to stay, the last boyfriend had beat her and stole what little money she had. She lived with me a month or so gaining weight and trying to find a decent job. I had not touched her until about the end of the 4th week when I came home and she had fixed dinner and when I opened the door she was standing in front of the table nude with a glass of wine. Offered me dinner then dessert or we could just skip to dessert. We fucked seven ways to Sunday for at least 24 hours on and off. After the shock sort of wore off, I told her that I had been crazy about her in High School which turns out she had known at the time but had not been able to act on due to her strict ass family. Then I asked why the sudden affection. And she then asked me to carry her to her dealer so she could buy some heroin.
Broke my heart. I was only like 3 months after divorce one and she had shown up at just the time when you get to that weird point where you wonder if there will be anyone else you ever can convince is really caring about you. And she just stomped the shit out of that.
I offered to carry her to a treatment facility. She had been shooting up really small amounts in a vein in the edge of her hairline to maintain but had ran out a week before and was starting to detox. She said she just wanted 'one more big hit' and then she would let me carry her to rehab. So idiot here took her to her dealer's place. She told me to stay in the car as he would not let her in if I was with her. Never really noticed she was carrying a huge purse instead of the small one I had gotten her for a job interview. She had all the stuff (the pair of shoes, a dress, makeup, comb, and a few pieces of jewelry) I had given her over the time. I also did not know she had gotten someone to come over and pick my safe and took a couple thousand in cash, a gun, some artwork and a few other things. I rarely opened the safe so it had likely been done days or weeks before.
After about an hour of sitting there trying to decide if I should go up or call the cops, a large young guy came down and walked over to my car. Motioned for me to roll down the window and he told me quite clearly that I was to leave and never even think about her again. I nodded, did not say a word, started the car and left. Stopped at the local police precinct and told them the whole story and verified the address. They had photos of the guy who came down as they had been trying to bust him for months. Seems he was the dealer and her on and off boyfriend who had booted her ass when she refused to be tricked out to his friends. I can not tell you how I cried when I saw her picture and his on the news the next day. She is in Federal at Butner. She has 17 years to go as her name was on the lease for the apartment so she got charged with maintaining a dwelling to manufacture and distribute. Her third offense for such and one of a long list of drug related things her parents had been getting her out of until recently. Two years later I got a call one night. The auto reader "You have a call from 'Her name said in her little girl sleepy voice' who is a prisoner at Butner Federal Correction Facility. Press one to accept, or hang up. " I hung up.
I see another friend of mine from High School on BP all the time. She was borderline schizophrenic then. I cannot imagine what the crazy had become since then.I wish he put the link to he girl, in another time and place I would believe him but honestly is there anything on Backpage that is that hot? Especially the body rubs section where there has been nothing worth looking at for at least the past year.
So here is my question for all of you more experienced mongers out there. Is it safe to keep going to these places or do we stay away for a little while? More specifically, Westgate is my spot. Close by and never left sad. Is it safe even though it says open?
I was at a local cafe yesterday and I overheard an unknown person describing to a buddy the intimate details of an incident that they experienced earlier that day. I've repeated here verbatim as best I can remember exactly what I heard:
Again, this is just what I heard. You can judge as to the validity.Any idea what time of day this took place?
MedJohnson
10-28-16, 19:30
So here is my question for all of you more experienced mongers out there. Is it safe to keep going to these places or do we stay away for a little while? More specifically, Westgate is my spot. Close by and never left sad. Is it safe even though it says open?I've been wondering the same. Most of my regulars are gone or on vaca, and I'm in no way highly experienced at this, but I'm thinking it would be relatively safe if you recognize the girl. But I will follow the monger rules extra careful now. I think they were going after a select group connected to T of A because they could shut down any store on any day if they really wanted to do so. Going after the big fish. I think a couple stores are just hunkering down, lettings things settle to avoid any attention / publicity.
Stay safe.
Med.
So here is my question for all of you more experienced mongers out there. Is it safe to keep going to these places or do we stay away for a little while? More specifically, Westgate is my spot. Close by and never left sad. Is it safe even though it says open?IMO I think it's perfectly safe because the riff going on is between the stores and the authorities mainly because of this massage license thing. I think what we will notice is the selection of stores will obviously be limited to choose from until when or if they reopen by the current owners or someone else new. Also the services may vary now in this state of caution especially for newbies to the store, regulars should be fine. So I say continue going because these folks are like us they have bills to pay and need food and shelter and us Mongers have an itch to scratch. But everyone should go with their own budget and gut feeling after all the reason for going to a place like this is to enjoy the visit and relax. If it makes you uncomfortable then there's your answer. At my age it's one thing I've learned and that is no matter what changes if you give it time and keep a close eye on the change there is usually a silver lining. Will some of the girls left working in these places open up their menu to their regulars? Will the underground / apartment increase give these American BP girls a huge challenge especially if the Koreans start pushing ass out of their homes. They cracked down hard in LA with stores now there are tons of some mighty fine Asian ladies not these 40 something chicks but young and wet that will fuck your brains out in their apartment for $100 and usually 3 or 4 to choose from mostly Korean. Sometimes change can be good, I personally am not afraid of it not feeling safe because I'm not breaking any laws I'm more concerned with the quality of the massage and HE, My 2 cents.
MedJohnson
10-28-16, 21:46
IMO I think it's perfectly safe because the riff going on is between the stores and the authorities mainly because of this massage license thing. I think what we will notice is the selection of stores will obviously be limited to choose from until when or if they reopen by the current owners or someone else new. Also the services may vary now in this state of caution especially for newbies to the store, regulars should be fine. So I say continue going because these folks are like us they have bills to pay and need food and shelter and us Mongers have an itch to scratch. But everyone should go with their own budget and gut feeling after all the reason for going to a place like this is to enjoy the visit and relax. If it makes you uncomfortable then there's your answer. At my age it's one thing I've learned and that is no matter what changes if you give it time and keep a close eye on the change there is usually a silver lining. Will some of the girls left working in these places open up their menu to their regulars? Will the underground / apartment increase give these American BP girls a huge challenge especially if the Koreans start pushing ass out of their homes. They cracked down hard in LA with stores now there are tons of some mighty fine Asian ladies not these 40 something chicks but young and wet that will fuck your brains out in their apartment for $100 and usually 3 or 4 to choose from mostly Korean. Sometimes change can be good, I personally am not afraid of it not feeling safe because I'm not breaking any laws I'm more concerned with the quality of the massage and HE, My 2 cents.Partook this evening and had a great time. Did scope out a little better than usual, but nothing out of the ordinary. Hope mongers stay home though, more for me and possibly improved and expanded massage skills! All the authorities are doing is pushing this underground. Making it less safe for the people they are "protecting" and hurting the "victims" of the trafficking- as if that is happening- I have had conversations about this with several of the girls and they categorically deny it. But in court they will say they are forced so as to be seen as a victim- and I would do the same. The goberment should be focusing on more important things.
Done with salt box.
Stay safe.
Med.
Let's see, Hummm recent reports of definite or possible closings. Raleigh, Durham, Garner, Apex, Knightdale, Cary, Clayton. Is anybody compiling a list? I'm loosing track of who is open. Should JJ's list include a Question Mark beside the store number? Just kidding JJ you don't need a added chore. I really feel sorry for the person that has that lease payment due every month.001 is open, I went last night. Turns out they close as 9:30 now. Had a great time as usual.
Let's see, Hummm recent reports of definite or possible closings. Raleigh, Durham, Garner, Apex, Knightdale, Cary, Clayton. Is anybody compiling a list? I'm loosing track of who is open. Should JJ's list include a Question Mark beside the store number? Just kidding JJ you don't need a added chore. I really feel sorry for the person that has that lease payment due every month.An alarming trend. In answer to your question, it might be helpful to share reports of AMPs still open as well as those that have closed. As of this evening 0037 Asian Remedy was open and busy. My favorite person there was on her way to NYC this evening, but she plans to return after one week of vacation. Sounds as if we have other reports that staff are leaving without necessarily planning to return.
So it has finally happened. Looking through BP and lo and behold I see a girl I know socially! Would have never guessed this was her part time job! Now the question is do I schedule a visit? Must admit, I got a ragging boner instantly when I saw her ad. Anyone else ever see a lady they know??Your discovery at least verifies the BP photo, which is helpful info. Care to share a link on the forum? Or would that be a bridge too far?
So here is my question for all of you more experienced mongers out there. Is it safe to keep going to these places or do we stay away for a little while? More specifically, Westgate is my spot. Close by and never left sad. Is it safe even though it says open?My question too. I called an AMP ahead of visiting just to check if it was open. Then drove by to see if I could spot signs of any unusual activity. Nothing untoward, so I visited. The AMPs I've seen in this area have posted licenses. I go, I see their license, I visit, and then leave. Perhaps others can weigh in on the risks of visiting. I want to err on the side of being risk averse, but I also wish to support local AMPs. I recall seeing a posted license at Westgate on a previous visit there. So the question then becomes has the person visiting the AMP done anything wrong simply by going? Sometimes something slightly more sensuous is on offer at an AMP and sometimes not. So if nothing other than a massage takes place, is there any risk? This forum makes mention of a couple of close encounters of the LEO kind in recent days for patrons, with AMP owner and staff arrests, but no reports yet that I have seen of patrons suffering adverse consequences. So, like you, I wonder what the risks are and how best to mitigate those risks if one wishes to continue patronizing AMPs in our area.
I do believe it's safe to visit AMP's but as you scope the parking lot look for white Ford F150's that have a ladder rack or tool boxes on the back or Ford Taurus cars. Always fear the Ford Taurus. I know what you are thinking there's White F150 like that everywhere and that's exactly why they use them they blend right in.
MedJohnson
10-29-16, 08:38
Anyone else see this ad? Whoever wrote it needs to lay off the white rock!
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-management-1h-360-all-night-1300-only-asian-come/31823228
Doesn't make any sense. Maybe uncle at work?
Med.
I do believe it's safe to visit AMP's but as you scope the parking lot look for white Ford F150's that have a ladder rack or tool boxes on the back or Ford Taurus cars. Always fear the Ford Taurus. I know what you are thinking there's White F150 like that everywhere and that's exactly why they use them they blend right in.It's not what may be lurking in the parking lot, the key word in your post is "Fear" the only fear is if you walk up to one of these vehicles and say "I'll give you $40 for a HJ". The only thing to fear is exchanging cash for a favor with law enforcement, doesn't matter what's in the parking lot this exchange is what will get you arrested. Or as that one dude said the only thing to fear is fear itself.
MedJohnson
10-29-16, 11:39
It's not what may be lurking in the parking lot, the key word in your post is "Fear" the only fear is if you walk up to one of these vehicles and say "I'll give you $40 for a HJ". The only thing to fear is exchanging cash for a favor with law enforcement, doesn't matter what's in the parking lot this exchange is what will get you arrested. Or as that one dude said the only thing to fear is fear itself.Or to a new face in a store that may be an undercover uncle. So just follow the rules and everyone will be just fine!
Anyone else see this ad? Whoever wrote it needs to lay off the white rock!
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-management-1h-360-all-night-1300-only-asian-come/31823228
Doesn't make any sense. Maybe uncle at work?
Med.2nd day this ad has run on BP. Also They have taken address off along with #5 on JJs list. I hope some of you will read this ad and give your opinion.
HotMassage
10-29-16, 17:13
For those who visit Clayton for their massage needs, they are open again.
3 of my regulars have disappeared and a 4th that I had just bonded with is no where to be found. So with my tail and my pee pee tucked between my legs like a kicked little puppy dog and my wrinkled cash and condom in hand I made my way over to VIP to see if I would have better luck than the last time when I was denied because I was short $20 tip. It was a much better visit $80/$140 ouch!! She was actually nice looking with a killer body and knew how to use that body. I will only repeat once in a while based on the location and price which both are a little too much for me. But it was a memorable visit, if the location and price is not an issue for you I would recommend.
SkinsFan812
10-29-16, 22:30
Number 12 and 25 both closed. Sign on door saying closed for renovation.
2nd day this ad has run on BP. Also They have taken address off along with #5 on JJs list. I hope some of you will read this ad and give your opinion.My take is: This all ads up to a prank ad or Uncle fishing for your identity. If you're curious then I suggest you call the two numbers from a "throw away" phone and anything else is risky.
- $360 for 1 hr? Absurd! A beautiful Asian escort in NY is $250 - $300 per hr.
- The word "sex" in the ad, that is not smart so red flag #1.
- The word "teen" in the ad is placed so where the casual eye would overlook it, but the subconscious would not, that is either dubious or doubly not smart and red flag #2.
- The phrase "no money get out", that is childish and red flag #3.
The BP ad has two numbers linked to two other massage establishments.
- 1st # 919-848-3299 is linked to a Facebook page for Canaan Massage on 6300 Creedmoor Road #186.
https://www.facebook.com/Canaan-Massage-459028744238445/info/
- 2nd # 919-741-4072 is linked to Yucca Foot Spa on 124 SW Maynard Rd.
https://www.rubmaps.com/erotic-massage-yucca-foot-spa-cary-nc-12896
Bodywork Spa has two BP ads with rate changes in just three days and red flag #4.
- Oct 26 ad says Qv: $220 / Hr: $380 / All Night: $1300.
- Oct 29 ad says Hr: $360 / All Night $1200.
Yucca Foot had Uncle trouble last year and they were closed for a while with Uncle supposedly seen entering and leaving so that is red flag #5.
Garner Remodeling? I don't think so.Somebody has been reading the board! I drove by Super Relax recently and this time the curtain was pulled away from covering the glass door. On the lobby floor was a bucket of drywall mud, paint cans and a paint tray with a roller. It looked staged if you asked me, LOL.
SkinsFan812
10-29-16, 22:52
Somebody has been reading the board! I drove by Super Relax recently and the curtain was pulled away from covering the glass door. On the lobby floor was a bucket of drywall mud, paint cans and a paint tray with a roller. It looked staged if you asked me, LOL.I agree. It looks very suspicious.
My take is: This all ads up to a prank ad or Uncle fishing for your identity. If you're curious then I suggest you call the two numbers from a "throw away" phone and anything else is risky.
- $360 for 1 hr? Absurd! A beautiful Asian escort in NY is $250 - $300 per hr.
- The word "sex" in the ad, that is not smart so red flag #1.
- The word "teen" in the ad is placed so where the casual eye would overlook it, but the subconscious would not, that is either dubious or doubly not smart and red flag #2.
- The phrase "no money get out", that is childish and red flag #3.
The BP ad has two numbers linked to two other massage establishments.
- 1st # 919-848-3299 is linked to a Facebook page for Canaan Massage on 6300 Creedmoor Road #186.
https://www.facebook.com/Canaan-Massage-459028744238445/info/
- 2nd # 919-741-4072 is linked to Yucca Foot Spa on 124 SW Maynard Rd.
https://www.rubmaps.com/erotic-massage-yucca-foot-spa-cary-nc-12896
Bodywork Spa has two BP ads with rate changes in just three days and red flag #4.
- Oct 26 ad says Qv: $220 / Hr: $380 / All Night: $1300.
- Oct 29 ad says Hr: $360 / All Night $1200.
Yucca Foot had Uncle trouble last year and they were closed for a while with Uncle supposedly seen entering and leaving so that is red flag #5.Very good job pointing out the details P45, this board has some sharp members that also can think with their big head.
Somebody has been reading the board! I drove by Super Relax recently and this time the curtain was pulled away from covering the glass door. On the lobby floor was a bucket of drywall mud, paint cans and a paint tray with a roller. It looked staged if you asked me, LOL.Yes Always Always Always assume anything we post is being read by either the NC Massage Board, LE or anyone that is a competitor with an AMP such as Massage Envy or an Independent Therapist. Absolutely these post get read, its on a public board free speech is a beautiful thing, Welcome to the board guys. I figure when the lurking eyes read our post they will either get a boner or frustrated knowing how much pussy they are missing out on. Lord knows it can't be about the money no ones going to pay those Envy prices to Be massaged by someone who can't even get a job at Star Bucks or Chipotle Upchuck. Shitty expensive massage with no hand shake I don't think so. I'm sure the house wives will keep them in business while their husbands visit the AMP's. The funny thing is if the dry wall mud and paint is in fact being used for remodeling it would be a first that the Asians are spending their tight cash for that. Remember these are the folks that make their massage tables out of scrap 2 x4's they hand make the mattress for the table custom cut and sow the sheets for the tables and rarely change the cum on the sheets and wash the customers back with a hot towel that was used the day before to wipe another mans load off of his dick. Do you think they really care what color the walls are? Wow I would be surprised. There you go lurking eyes now you know where they buy their tables and a few other tid bits LOL. The only thing you got on them is the massage license rule. Keep on posting guys.
MedJohnson
10-30-16, 07:19
2nd day this ad has run on BP. Also They have taken address off along with #5 on JJs list. I hope some of you will read this ad and give your opinion.Called. Asked if they were running any specials: "just massage".
All 3 did answer, which is a little suspicious, but it may have been the time of day. Standard female Asian voice on the other end, all different, and they happily told me who was working.
Med.
I wish he put the link to he girl, in another time and place I would believe him but honestly is there anything on Backpage that is that hot? Especially the body rubs section where there has been nothing worth looking at for at least the past year.I assume you meant the BP girl. As I said, she was batshit crazy 30 years ago in high school and college. I assure you I am doing you a favor by not pointing out a woman that most of you would avoid just based on her ads. Never said she was super hot. The other two I mentioned, yeah, they were. I assume they still are. Well, the stripper is. I got curious the other night after I posted that and looked up the other girl. She got out a few years ago for good behavior I guess. She is living in the Pacific North West and seems to be clean from what a mutual friend tells me. Oh well. Wrong side of 40 to be chasing rainbows or cross-continental tail.
CaptainKhan
10-30-16, 14:11
Long time lurker. I've never been to an AMP, yet, but I hope to chime-in if I may and get your opinion on something.
What if the AMP business owner bought some massage recliners like you use to see at the mall. Maybe, put a big screen TV on the wall and have a video console mounted below it. A customer could rent a chair and room by the hour. They can bring their own video game and joy stick or rent one. Now, they need someone to play against. Ahh! Maybe a skilled Asian woman that can beat them at any game. Maybe multiple players, depending on the game.
This would be so much easier on everyone, owners and the ladies, It also goes right around Massage Board regulations. An AMP could become an AVP.
I realize many guys still want the massage and maybe an owner could have both in their business. If an employee doesn't have a license, she can only work a joy stick in a room with a massage chair.
I also realize some may say owners won't put-up the money for massage chairs and TVs but how much does lawyers, bail and fines cost? The chair and TV is cheaper.
Every employee is taught law enforcement entrapment tactics and restrictions in soliciting someone for sex. If a guy wants to play video games in his underwear or less. It's nobody's business. Change the sheets. Probably bring my own.
It's doable. It's legal. The Massage Board wants them all gone and will play the moral card politically if they need to take it there. However, we are living in times where same sex marriage is legal and transgenders have won a lot of sympathy in choosing their bathroom gender. Like every member and lurker on this board other than LE and the MB, we recognize true liberty in pursuing primal human needs. We all own our body. No one should be allowed to exploit anyone to do anything against their will. No one should be prosecuted for entering a consensual transaction. This is 'Murica.
IDK, anyone have an opinion? We're smart enough to figure this out. If we want to keep it, we'll have to make it a political issue or find another way.
Happy Joy Sticking! HJS.
The scariest of all the "flags" is the word "teen. " Show up for an add for "Teen S E X" and you are going away my friends.
My take is: This all ads up to a prank ad or Uncle fishing for your identity. If you're curious then I suggest you call the two numbers from a "throw away" phone and anything else is risky.
- $360 for 1 hr? Absurd! A beautiful Asian escort in NY is $250 - $300 per hr.
- The word "sex" in the ad, that is not smart so red flag #1.
- The word "teen" in the ad is placed so where the casual eye would overlook it, but the subconscious would not, that is either dubious or doubly not smart and red flag #2.
- The phrase "no money get out", that is childish and red flag #3.
The BP ad has two numbers linked to two other massage establishments.
- 1st # 919-848-3299 is linked to a Facebook page for Canaan Massage on 6300 Creedmoor Road #186.
https://www.facebook.com/Canaan-Massage-459028744238445/info/
- 2nd # 919-741-4072 is linked to Yucca Foot Spa on 124 SW Maynard Rd.
https://www.rubmaps.com/erotic-massage-yucca-foot-spa-cary-nc-12896
Bodywork Spa has two BP ads with rate changes in just three days and red flag #4.
- Oct 26 ad says Qv: $220 / Hr: $380 / All Night: $1300.
- Oct 29 ad says Hr: $360 / All Night $1200.
Yucca Foot had Uncle trouble last year and they were closed for a while with Uncle supposedly seen entering and leaving so that is red flag #5.
Looks like a fake Ad from a competitor that got busted or needs more business. If you wanted to keep people away this is the type of Ad you would run.
The scariest of all the "flags" is the word "teen. " Show up for an add for "Teen S E X" and you are going away my friends.
MedJohnson
10-30-16, 19:55
Is this a new place?
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hot-asian-escorts-919-633-5942-best-service/31768876
I visited two places who knew my face, but only received a "regular massage". They were good and sometimes a HE is not required, but when it's not an option at all it clearly reflects the tough reality we're in with other places still closed. I see very few ads in the massage section on BP.
The Body Rub section has some Asian ads for places on Maynard, Chatham and Buck Jones in Cary, but I'm not familiar with the new owners or the new staff.
This place use to be Yucca Massage and now its Koco Health Center.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/koco-heath-center-pl-asurabl-asian-body-massage-truly-unforgettable-exp-i-nc/30972034
This place use to be Green Apple with Chinese ladies and now it has a Korean staff.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-no-top-quality-relaxation-very-skilled-korean-girls/30716543
This place is the 1+1 Hair Salon and Day Spa, but they have an ad for 1+1 Massage.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/1-1-massage-great-place-for-massage-919-579-3968/30111657
This place use to be you-Relax and then Pure Spa and now its Magic Relaxation.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-body-rub-by-magic-relaxation/20549654
Is this a new place?
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hot-asian-escorts-919-633-5942-best-service/31768876Yes, it appears to be new, but it doesn't list an address. There is a strip mall on the corner, but the other corners have banks and a gas station. This ad says Hot Asian Escorts, but its in the BP body rub section. That could be a concern since the business is unknown with a new ad and a new phone # with no history.
Yes, it appears to be new, but it doesn't list an address. There is a strip mall on the corner, but the other corners have banks and a gas station. This ad says Hot Asian Escorts, but its in the BP body rub section. That could be a concern since the business is unknown with a new ad and a new phone # with no history.It's always good to be safe when something looks out of the ordinary and most of us have been going to these AMP's or visiting BP girls long enough to know the signals. However that said it's also easy to become too cautious. I'm sure or at least guessing when we see a new AMP ad with a phone number and no address its like the others that have been listing their services out of an apartment its a new day fellas. The concern of getting into trouble is just plain common sense and should always be a priority. Which brings me back to if it doesn't look or feel right do not proceed with the HE or just plain walk. For example if you pull into a parking lot for a BP girl or one of these AMP apartment deals and you notice cars or people that look out of place or whatever book it. If you are actually in one of these apartments, AMP or hotel room and she's asking for the money before any touching of the dick and pussy (LE Check) leave it only takes 5 seconds for the check. Everyone knows the script in the AMP's she massage's then there's the back and forth touching, she should have touched the dick and balls many times by now signaling the HE to follow which would have cleared her for the (LE check). Reaching out to touch her is not a crime because no money has been offered its just flirting. Now I will say on one or two visits I have actually encounterd girls that were fresh off the plane that had never worked in these stores before and must not have had any instructions from the owner and didn't know the flow of the script or what or who made what move. But these are rare occasions I would say 99% of these girls know at the end of their first day on the job what the deal is. The only time I personally would get concerned is if I went into a AMP and the girl didn't touch me and starting asking me how much you give me for this or that without her EVER touching me flags would fly and I would say no just massage only and of course report back here a asap. So my point is just know the law which is you can't offer cash for sex period. And just use common sense if she's serious about giving you a Happy Ending SHE IS GOING TO BE THE ONE doing the touching if she ain't touching you and is asking for cash be careful. Listen fellas these AMP's are constantly changing owners so you are going to see different faces and different levels of service just use your big head and be careful. I know the underling thought and that is this place or that place may set up a sting could it happen sure any things possible. But it would be like shooting into a barrel filled with fish you are go hit one but the rest are going to scatter and the word is now out of the bag about LE it would be the loss of their elimate of surprise. My subject matter is one of us getting into trouble but the reality is just as we have seen happen recently in WakeForest, Apex and other news reports its more likely that the provider is the one that will get busted. Just to stay focused on the AMP subject to recap my thoughts these AMP faces and services are going to contantly change and the AMP's & LE are going to play cat and mouse with each other. Where does that leave us? Like I said use your common sense based on knowing the law and the script that is played out on each visit, chat, massage, she touches, flip, she performs HE BEFORE she receives the tip!! If it doesn't feel or sound right NO JUST MASSAGE only, no need too panic because these places / business model are going to constantly change. And if something is very funky smelling about the visit, cash is being requested before any LE checks have been cleared or shit actually happen's stand down or leave and report it back here that is what this board is for. Have fun and use the big head too.
MedJohnson
10-31-16, 07:22
Long time lurker. I've never been to an AMP, yet, but I hope to chime-in if I may and get your opinion on something.
What if the AMP business owner bought some massage recliners like you use to see at the mall. Maybe, put a big screen TV on the wall and have a video console mounted below it. A customer could rent a chair and room by the hour. They can bring their own video game and joy stick or rent one. Now, they need someone to play against. Ahh! Maybe a skilled Asian woman that can beat them at any game. Maybe multiple players, depending on the game.
This would be so much easier on everyone, owners and the ladies, It also goes right around Massage Board regulations. An AMP could become an AVP.
I realize many guys still want the massage and maybe an owner could have both in their business. If an employee doesn't have a license, she can only work a joy stick in a room with a massage chair.
I also realize some may say owners won't put-up the money for massage chairs and TVs but how much does lawyers, bail and fines cost? The chair and TV is cheaper.
Every employee is taught law enforcement entrapment tactics and restrictions in soliciting someone for sex. If a guy wants to play video games in his underwear or less. It's nobody's business. Change the sheets. Probably bring my own.
It's doable. It's legal. The Massage Board wants them all gone and will play the moral card politically if they need to take it there. However, we are living in times where same sex marriage is legal and transgenders have won a lot of sympathy in choosing their bathroom gender. Like every member and lurker on this board other than LE and the MB, we recognize true liberty in pursuing primal human needs. We all own our body. No one should be allowed to exploit anyone to do anything against their will. No one should be prosecuted for entering a consensual transaction. This is 'Murica.
IDK, anyone have an opinion? We're smart enough to figure this out. If we want to keep it, we'll have to make it a political issue or find another way.
Happy Joy Sticking! HJS.Sort of on the same topic, I stopped by the man medi-pedi massage bar last week but they were closed after hours. Looks like chair massage from what I could see, but intriguing.
Med.
MedJohnson
10-31-16, 07:26
Yes, it appears to be new, but it doesn't list an address. There is a strip mall on the corner, but the other corners have banks and a gas station. This ad says Hot Asian Escorts, but its in the BP body rub section. That could be a concern since the business is unknown with a new ad and a new phone # with no history.Planning to scope it out if I can get away for a little while today.
Med.
I had a visit at Asia Remedy last week. Picked out a skinny late 30's 6/10. Massage was pretty good with very little tease. Very little negotiation on the flip and the handshake was pretty good with moderate UTC.
Business as usual I guess, like all the previous visits. Hhr $50/ $40.
Jb.
MedJohnson
10-31-16, 14:21
Planning to scope it out if I can get away for a little while today.
Med.Checked this area out. Didn't dare call as I didn't have the right phone. Way too high dollar for an AMP or other provider I believe. Couple massage / salon places already. Probably somebody sending uncle and MB on a trick or treat goose chase. If so, good for them. Maybe they will stop discriminating and just stop this nonsense and do some real work to protect the public.
Med.
MedJohnson
10-31-16, 14:27
Swung by 0036 Lotus as I was in the area. Closed with a "help wanted NC licensed massage" sign in the window.
Med.
Long time lurker. I've never been to an AMP, yet, but I hope to chime-in if I may and get your opinion on something.
What if the AMP business owner bought some massage recliners like you use to see at the mall. Maybe, put a big screen TV on the wall and have a video console mounted below it. A customer could rent a chair and room by the hour. They can bring their own video game and joy stick or rent one. Now, they need someone to play against. Ahh! Maybe a skilled Asian woman that can beat them at any game. Maybe multiple players, depending on the game.
This would be so much easier on everyone, owners and the ladies, It also goes right around Massage Board regulations. An AMP could become an AVP.
I realize many guys still want the massage and maybe an owner could have both in their business. If an employee doesn't have a license, she can only work a joy stick in a room with a massage chair.
I also realize some may say owners won't put-up the money for massage chairs and TVs but how much does lawyers, bail and fines cost? The chair and TV is cheaper.
Every employee is taught law enforcement entrapment tactics and restrictions in soliciting someone for sex. If a guy wants to play video games in his underwear or less. It's nobody's business. Change the sheets. Probably bring my own.
It's doable. It's legal. The Massage Board wants them all gone and will play the moral card politically if they need to take it there. However, we are living in times where same sex marriage is legal and transgenders have won a lot of sympathy in choosing their bathroom gender. Like every member and lurker on this board other than LE and the MB, we recognize true liberty in pursuing primal human needs. We all own our body. No one should be allowed to exploit anyone to do anything against their will. No one should be prosecuted for entering a consensual transaction. This is 'Murica.
IDK, anyone have an opinion? We're smart enough to figure this out. If we want to keep it, we'll have to make it a political issue or find another way.
Happy Joy Sticking! HJS.I'm getting a little dizzy trying to digest the concept but I've seen some strange shit in my day, it's possible there's a market for your idea. Dumb shit Xhippie always taking the dollar angle (sorry thinking out loud).
I had a visit at Asia Remedy last week. Picked out a skinny late 30's 6/10. Massage was pretty good with very little tease. Very little negotiation on the flip and the handshake was pretty good with moderate UTC.
Business as usual I guess, like all the previous visits. Hhr $50/ $40.
Jb.Its almost like they enjoy giving the handshake there. I've never been let down there.
CaptainKhan
10-31-16, 21:32
I'm getting a little dizzy trying to digest the concept but I've seen some strange shit in my day, it's possible there's a market for your idea. Dumb shit Xhippie always taking the dollar angle (sorry thinking out loud).The concept is the same. Get a willing woman in a room without LE having probable cause to intervene. Make sure the woman knows how to tell if the client is LE or not. The lack of a Masseuse license is probable cause to shut an AMP down. No license is required to play video games. This is how Tom Cats Movie Mates operated. I guess moving into the 21st century, video games that require someone to play with / against may attract clientele. This concept would shut the Massage Board the hell up. They would lose it knowing massage recliners have replaced their trade. At least AMP owners would have a way of covering the fact that some of their employees don't have a license. Maybe the price would go down a little but the tips should not. No reason why an AMP couldn't have both a massage room and a video room with a massage recliner.
Swung by 0036 Lotus as I was in the area. Closed with a "help wanted NC licensed massage" sign in the window.
Med.Yep I think this place is permanent toast, there was a recent post on Rmap about a recent visit there which most people I chat with never believe half of what's posted there. Great site for address's, name's, phone numbers and such. I'd be real surprised if they reopen. I remember when they were open I popped in and asked for a 1 hour she said $85 WTF I said holy nellie maybe another day I left.
GeniePants
11-01-16, 18:48
Driving by Emily at 6:45 PM, and the lights are out, and no vehicles out front. Think I'll check out the other AMPs on Capital to check to see if they're open.
GeniePants
11-01-16, 19:24
0007 Asian is also dark, but 0008 Oriental seems to be open.
Went by last night. As dark as can be. No signs of life at all.
Brneyehound
11-02-16, 13:07
If why'all are willing to send me a list of confirmed closed locations I will compile them and post them. It would be nice for us to be able to tell in the immediate future what is a waste of time. I'm sure the pressure will back off after the elections. Until then, however, it would be nice to know where is a hit and where is a definite miss. I will check back in later tonight and see if I have had any replies before I start working on the list.
MedJohnson
11-02-16, 14:24
If why'all are willing to send me a list of confirmed closed locations I will compile them and post them. It would be nice for us to be able to tell in the immediate future what is a waste of time. I'm sure the pressure will back off after the elections. Until then, however, it would be nice to know where is a hit and where is a definite miss. I will check back in later tonight and see if I have had any replies before I start working on the list.I think a list of closed and also places that are open but currently with no menu would be helpful.
36 and 50 definitely closed.
26- open but? Menu.
If why'all are willing to send me a list of confirmed closed locations I will compile them and post them. It would be nice for us to be able to tell in the immediate future what is a waste of time. I'm sure the pressure will back off after the elections. Until then, however, it would be nice to know where is a hit and where is a definite miss. I will check back in later tonight and see if I have had any replies before I start working on the list.A "closed list" would be helpful but it may take someone monitoring the post almost daily to maintain the list lord knows you never know when someone's door and lights are going to be closed and opened again. For example there are a few reasons a place may be closed which doesn't necessarily mean they are closed permanently such as.
1. 0007 reported closed, there is only the owner working the store when she's not there for whatever reason it will be closed.
2. If a store is sold, there could be a lag time before the new owner comes to town and staff's his / her store.
3. Some owners will shut down their store if they go to China for a visit which could be up to 2 weeks or more because they don't trust their staff to handle the business / cash.
4. Closed temporarily because of fear of getting busted for doing massage with no license (don't need a massage license to own the store need license to massage) when the heat is on most owners have no license, their name is on the lease and stand to loose the most the girls simply move on.
5. Closed because got busted.
6. Closed because of violating building the store no permits bad inspections etc.
7. Closed because of personal reasons, divorce, medical reasons, immigration reasons, financial reasons.
8. Closed because not enough business due to bad location / no customers.
These are just a few of the reason that stores come and go, as you can see it shows why they can close but when or if they will reopen would take some board monitoring. As far as MedJohnsons suggestion regarding listing "no menu". Well 2 things about that, First IMO I don't think there is anything such as no menu, on JJ's list at the bottom under the section CODE the H kinda addresses the stores menu as being difficult which I define as I'm going to a different place with better odds. Second I'm glad JJ used the word difficult instead of impossible or No. Because a store can be listed as difficult which means if you really want a HE why bother with this store go for one that has a higher rating on the code list. That said there are a few stores that I have visited that had a H rating either on JJ's list or "reported as a non-erotic" on RM and I got full service. So any list will give a general reference to where you may want to give your best shot and is definitely better than no list but I wouldn't take it literally. Some of the best pussy I've ever gotten was in places you could hear a whisper, I had to wait for the damn air condition in the building to come on to drown out the smacking and slurping LOL no shit I think some of you may have heard the sounds if you were ever in some of these so call legit massage only places and wondered am I hearing what I think I'm hearing? Point being a list saying no menu may be true but it probably should say no menu for the masses which would be an indicator to look elsewhere for a HE but for the time being I would reference JJ's list ... My 2 cents
Score 1 to 1 Go Cubs!!!!!!!!
MedJohnson
11-03-16, 07:45
I was just looking for a way to keep track of major changes in menu. Especially if it is an owner providing service b / c I don't want anything to do with the couple that owns 1 & 9. Can't think of a less fun way to spend an hour!
Stay safe.
Med.
Brneyehound
11-03-16, 08:02
I was thinking more along the lines of a Butsed list. Closing from time to time happens. Seems we have lost a few sport to our annoying uncle though. Just thought it would be nice to have a list of those that won't be open for business for a while. If it's not suh a good idea then no problem. Just trying to be helpful.
A "closed list" would be helpful but it may take someone monitoring the post almost daily to maintain the list lord knows you never know when someone's door and lights are going to be closed and opened again. For example there are a few reasons a place may be closed which doesn't necessarily mean they are closed permanently such as.
1. 0007 reported closed, there is only the owner working the store when she's not there for whatever reason it will be closed.
2. If a store is sold, there could be a lag time before the new owner comes to town and staff's his / her store.
3. Some owners will shut down their store if they go to China for a visit which could be up to 2 weeks or more because they don't trust their staff to handle the business / cash.
4. Closed temporarily because of fear of getting busted for doing massage with no license (don't need a massage license to own the store need license to massage) when the heat is on most owners have no license, their name is on the lease and stand to loose the most the girls simply move on.
5. Closed because got busted.
6. Closed because of violating building the store no permits bad inspections etc.
7. Closed because of personal reasons, divorce, medical reasons, immigration reasons, financial reasons.
8. Closed because not enough business due to bad location / no customers.
These are just a few of the reason that stores come and go, as you can see it shows why they can close but when or if they will reopen would take some board monitoring. As far as MedJohnsons suggestion regarding listing "no menu". Well 2 things about that, First IMO I don't think there is anything such as no menu, on JJ's list at the bottom under the section CODE the H kinda addresses the stores menu as being difficult which I define as I'm going to a different place with better odds. Second I'm glad JJ used the word difficult instead of impossible or No. Because a store can be listed as difficult which means if you really want a HE why bother with this store go for one that has a higher rating on the code list. That said there are a few stores that I have visited that had a H rating either on JJ's list or "reported as a non-erotic" on RM and I got full service. So any list will give a general reference to where you may want to give your best shot and is definitely better than no list but I wouldn't take it literally. Some of the best pussy I've ever gotten was in places you could hear a whisper, I had to wait for the damn air condition in the building to come on to drown out the smacking and slurping LOL no shit I think some of you may have heard the sounds if you were ever in some of these so call legit massage only places and wondered am I hearing what I think I'm hearing? Point being a list saying no menu may be true but it probably should say no menu for the masses which would be an indicator to look elsewhere for a HE but for the time being I would reference JJ's list ... My 2 cents
Score 1 to 1 Go Cubs!!!!!!!!
I was thinking more along the lines of a Butsed list. Closing from time to time happens. Seems we have lost a few sport to our annoying uncle though. Just thought it would be nice to have a list of those that won't be open for business for a while. If it's not suh a good idea then no problem. Just trying to be helpful.
I think it's a great idea especially for guys that may not have time to keep up with what's being posted all the time. My thoughts were more along the line of accuracy. Hey I need all the info I can get I'm constantly going to JJ's list. Appreciate your effort for trying to help us all it's what keeps the board what it is. A2 recently chimed in on JJ's list because the store numbers appeared to be a secret type of code list but once explained its open to everyone we were given the green light to use it ( thanks A2) Your list is even more straight forward If you do the list I know I'll be checking it all the time.
So I had very happy visits at #45 Body Works, but then I drive over and a sign says they are shut due to an emergency. Five weeks later still no answer at the phone and the open light is off when I pass by.
There was a very good masseuse there named CoCo. Has anyone seen or heard of her at another place? Feel free to pm me.
MedJohnson
11-04-16, 11:39
50 is open.
Called and familiar name answered.
Med.
MedJohnson
11-04-16, 17:29
Very nice visit. Nice to see familiar faces. Good fun.
Stay safe.
Med.
Zen in Knightdale still open, JJ list #0051. One member of the current staff is a really great masseuse and has worked at a couple of the other AMPs in the area. Feel free to PM for a name.
Raleighassman
11-04-16, 18:49
Not sure if this is allowed in this thread, sorry Mod if it's not. But with the MP's closing, I found this to be a good alternative.
Yesterday I was considering a massage parlor trip, felt like a rub and tug. VIP in Youngsville is my fav, but since I was in north Raleigh I re visited a provider who I'd used to scratch other itches in the past. She offers an "edging" session where she's 100% naked, allows full roaming and. Via a hand job, kept me on the edge of orgasm for what seemed like 45 minutes. It was fantastic fun. Since there was no question about if I would or wouldn't get great service, and it's a private residence. Not a hotel, I'll probably go there instead of MP's in future. Her tits are to die for.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/Domination/mistress-belle-k-you-have-nothing-to-lose-but-control-private-play-space-well-reviewed/28576186
Visiting this area and noticed not many AMPs at all. Are there any with more than HE maybe BBBJ? Or any korean agency with that? Thanks.
MedJohnson
11-05-16, 07:46
Visiting this area and noticed not many AMPs at all. Are there any with more than HE maybe BBBJ? Or any korean agency with that? Thanks.Lots of places around here are closed or on edge b / c recent bust. Pm sent.
MedJohnson
11-05-16, 08:20
Anybody dreamed in north hills? Seems out of character for that area.
Med.
Visiting this area and noticed not many AMPs at all. Are there any with more than HE maybe BBBJ? Or any korean agency with that? Thanks.Read the forums.
Not sure if this is allowed in this thread, sorry Mod if it's not. But with the MP's closing, I found this to be a good alternative.
Yesterday I was considering a massage parlor trip, felt like a rub and tug. VIP in Youngsville is my fav, but since I was in north Raleigh I re visited a provider who I'd used to scratch other itches in the past. She offers an "edging" session where she's 100% naked, allows full roaming and. Via a hand job, kept me on the edge of orgasm for what seemed like 45 minutes. It was fantastic fun. Since there was no question about if I would or wouldn't get great service, and it's a private residence. Not a hotel, I'll probably go there instead of MP's in future. Her tits are to die for.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/Domination/mistress-belle-k-you-have-nothing-to-lose-but-control-private-play-space-well-reviewed/28576186How much did you spend?
Not sure if this is allowed in this thread, sorry Mod if it's not. But with the MP's closing, I found this to be a good alternative.
Yesterday I was considering a massage parlor trip, felt like a rub and tug. VIP in Youngsville is my fav, but since I was in north Raleigh I re visited a provider who I'd used to scratch other itches in the past. She offers an "edging" session where she's 100% naked, allows full roaming and. Via a hand job, kept me on the edge of orgasm for what seemed like 45 minutes. It was fantastic fun. Since there was no question about if I would or wouldn't get great service, and it's a private residence. Not a hotel, I'll probably go there instead of MP's in future. Her tits are to die for.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/Domination/mistress-belle-k-you-have-nothing-to-lose-but-control-private-play-space-well-reviewed/28576186I've only seen one other recent review on her on this board that I can recall, seems it was on BP ad Reviews I'm guessing about a month ago I'm not exactly sure but it hasn't been too long.
I've seen Krista numerous times over the years, she has come and gone from the area a couple of times. She is a little fire ball alright!. Very educated and friendly and puts you at ease immediately. Has always offered a very clean, safe private incall and a fantastic non rushed erotic session, and is just a cool person to talk with and hang out with. She has the same MO and price point as Kat (gorgeous brunette MILF) I actually saw them together several years ago when they were first starting out in the area, THAT was one for the memory books! And have seen them both individually numerous times since. Their hourly rate is higher than most, but you get what you pay for. Through our numerous conversations over the years is does not surprise me that she is now going by "Mistress Belle-K" that was something she had talked about in the past. I see that she has teamed up with "Goddess A" whom I have also seen numerous times over the years for FBSM sessions. I have known both of these ladies for many years, and they are both highly educated and experienced in sensuality, eroticism and their art. Although I can't speak on their BDSM sessions (not really my thing) if it is anything like their FBSM sessions. You can't go wrong!.
I've only seen one other recent review on her on this board that I can recall, seems it was on BP ad Reviews I'm guessing about a month ago I'm not exactly sure but it hasn't been too long.
SkinsFan812
11-05-16, 12:47
I've seen Krista numerous times over the years, she has come and gone from the area a couple of times. She is a little fire ball alright!. Very educated and friendly and puts you at ease immediately. Has always offered a very clean, safe private incall and a fantastic non rushed erotic session, and is just a cool person to talk with and hang out with. She has the same MO and price point as Kat (gorgeous brunette MILF) I actually saw them together several years ago when they were first starting out in the area, THAT was one for the memory books! And have seen them both individually numerous times since. Their hourly rate is higher than most, but you get what you pay for. Through our numerous conversations over the years is does not surprise me that she is now going by "Mistress Belle-K" that was something she had talked about in the past. I see that she has teamed up with "Goddess A" whom I have also seen numerous times over the years for FBSM sessions. I have known both of these ladies for many years, and they are both highly educated and experienced in sensuality, eroticism and their art. Although I can't speak on their BDSM sessions (not really my thing) if it is anything like their FBSM sessions. You can't go wrong!.She really is a laid back, cool gal. No pressure, she holds a good conversation, gives a decent body rub as well. Definitely worth a visit.
Visiting this area and noticed not many AMPs at all. Are there any with more than HE maybe BBBJ? Or any korean agency with that? Thanks.
Read the forums.
I see that you're visiting from Northern Va and yes, Raleigh doesn't have much when compared to your area to include the Capital. 90% Chinese AMP's here and for what you are looking for reference JJ's list (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?13592-JJ-s-List) and the places with an "E" rating, like (#18 and #50), will be the most accommodating. Do read the forum because there has been some Uncle activity a few weeks ago and some AMP's might be reluctant if not momentarily closed.
Remedy, number 00337 on the list by JJ, is still open. Someone new on the staff there who is proficient at walking on back. I think someone has expressed interest on finding providers with that particular skill set. Someone has also previously asked about getting a good massage on flip for chest and front leg muscles, and she does reasonably well. All in all, OK.
Just drove by Westgate and the building is empty with a for lease sign in the window.
SkinsFan812
11-05-16, 18:47
I didn't go in, but just as an FYI. 12 has some dog grooming place getting ready to open soon, so there is a lot of people in the front of the store in the parking lot. No way to discreetly enter.
Just drove by Westgate and the building is empty with a for lease sign in the window.Oh man hate to hear that had some fun times there and loved the location convenient for my location. Sure wish I knew where SheShe went a true sweetie.
Oh man hate to hear that had some fun times there and loved the location convenient for my location. Sure wish I knew where SheShe went a true sweetie.I agree. She was one of my all time favorites. If she pops up anywhere else let me know. A real sweetheart.
I've been wanting to try out a parlor, possibly the one in youngsville since it seems to be a favorite but searching the forum hasn't given any answers.
Do you all actually tip 40 for a hj? Maybe it's because I haven't experienced it but it seems high for very little return. Unless you are allowed to roam/touch?
Are all places against bbbj now because of the recent leo surge?
During the massage do you touch them or are they wearing less clothing? That's one of the things I was thinking but I've heard mixed results.
I've been wanting to try out a parlor, possibly the one in youngsville since it seems to be a favorite but searching the forum hasn't given any answers.
Do you all actually tip 40 for a hj? Maybe it's because I haven't experienced it but it seems high for very little return. Unless you are allowed to roam/touch?
Are all places against bbbj now because of the recent leo surge?
During the massage do you touch them or are they wearing less clothing? That's one of the things I was thinking but I've heard mixed results.$40 is that standard tip for a HJ.
I've been wanting to try out a parlor, possibly the one in youngsville since it seems to be a favorite but searching the forum hasn't given any answers.
Do you all actually tip 40 for a hj? Maybe it's because I haven't experienced it but it seems high for very little return. Unless you are allowed to roam/touch?
Are all places against bbbj now because of the recent leo surge?
During the massage do you touch them or are they wearing less clothing? That's one of the things I was thinking but I've heard mixed results.PM sent.
Almost all AMP's provide a hand job for (.4) and it's trial and error of finding that girl who will do it nice and slow to build up a good release. Most don't mind if you grab their butt, however UTC roaming well some don't like it while others expect a little more tip like (.5). The trick with AMP's is to find that girl who is sensual and does a HJ right where it almost feels like a BJ. Check JJ's list for the AMP rating's, but at any AMP if you build a relationship (friendship, emotional bond or extra services) then anything is possible. It's just most people aren't patient enough to build that relationship.
Ok guys through the help of a friend who is a lawyer he has helped me find a way to get around the NC massage license for these girls. All they have to do is make sure they don't call themselves or advertise as massage therapist. They need to call themselves Movement repatterning experts. This is exempt from needing a licence. So when a customer comes in they just need to declare that they are not MT but movement repatterning experts. They need to ask the customer if they do repetitive movement's and that can be anything such as typing, bending, head movements and then they can do therapy such as massage or exercise to correct the problem. If they get visited by the police or undercover police if she has asked the customer if he has movement repatterning problems and he says yes she is OK if he says no then refuse to help him. Using the correct wording will be the same as doing a LEO check. Places need to change their names there can be nothing saying massage or bodywork. Movement repatterning is exempt from needing a NC massage license. We need to educate the girls and the customers.
Ok guys through the help of a friend who is a lawyer he has helped me find a way to get around the NC massage license for these girls. All they have to do is make sure they don't call themselves or advertise as massage therapist. They need to call themselves Movement repatterning experts. This is exempt from needing a licence. So when a customer comes in they just need to declare that they are not MT but movement repatterning experts. They need to ask the customer if they do repetitive movement's and that can be anything such as typing, bending, head movements and then they can do therapy such as massage or exercise to correct the problem. If they get visited by the police or undercover police if she has asked the customer if he has movement repatterning problems and he says yes she is OK if he says no then refuse to help him. Using the correct wording will be the same as doing a LEO check. Places need to change their names there can be nothing saying massage or bodywork. Movement repatterning is exempt from needing a NC massage license. We need to educate the girls and the customers.Yes, Movement Repatterning is exempt however these girls do not practice repatterning techniques. The techniques they use involve the using the hands, feet, elbows or knees to apply direct pressure or using the hands to manipulate the soft tissue. The only way a girl could try this defense is if the girl was not witnessed giving massage and LE only assumed and she was just charged her without any evidence of what she actually did in the room. It also wouldn't help the girl if the store she works is registered as a massage or body work business. However if LE actually received a massage and then afterwards asked to see her license and she had none then this Movement Repatterning defense could not be used when she practiced the definition of a massage.
Movement Repatterning = Physical Therapist.
Body Work or Massage = Applies pressure or manipulates the soft tissue.
11. What practitioners are exempt from licensure? Pursuant to Rule Section. 0203, the Board considers persons who are utilizing certain Therapeutic techniques may claim exemption from licensure if they meet the following criteria: 1) such persons are practicing techniques that are defined by national organizations that meet the criteria for exemption set forth in either G. S. 90-624 (6) or (7); or 2) such persons are practicing techniques that do not involve any contact with the body of the client; or 3) such persons are practicing techniques that involves resting the hands on the surface of the clients body without delivering pressure to or manipulation of the soft tissues. Services such as herbal body wraps, skin exfoliation treatments or the topical application of products to the skin for beautification purposes are not considered to be the practice of massage and bodywork therapy, as long as such services do not involve direct manipulation of the soft tissues of the body. Anyone who is utilizing exempt techniques or treatments along with the practice of massage or bodywork therapy is not considered exempt and will be required to be licensed.
https://www.bmbt.org/pages/FAQ.html#11.%20What%20practitioners%20are%20exempt
For the two girls at Touch of Asia; if they weren't witnessed giving massages then this defense might work but they need a good lawyer to coach them and they can't have given any statements to LE confessing or saying that they gave massages for a living.
Yes, Movement Repatterning is exempt however these girls do not practice repatterning techniques. The techniques they use involve the using the hands, feet, elbows or knees to apply direct pressure or using the hands to manipulate the soft tissue. The only way a girl could try this defense is if the girl was not witnessed giving massage and LE only assumed and she was just charged her without any evidence of what she actually did in the room. It also wouldn't help the girl if the store she works is registered as a massage or body work business. However if LE actually received a massage and then afterwards asked to see her license and she had none then this Movement Repatterning defense could not be used when she practiced the definition of a massage.
Movement Repatterning = Physical Therapist.
Body Work or Massage = Applies pressure or manipulates the soft tissue.
11. What practitioners are exempt from licensure? Pursuant to Rule Section. 0203, the Board considers persons who are utilizing certain Therapeutic techniques may claim exemption from licensure if they meet the following criteria: 1) such persons are practicing techniques that are defined by national organizations that meet the criteria for exemption set forth in either G. S. 90-624 (6) or (7); or 2) such persons are practicing techniques that do not involve any contact with the body of the client; or 3) such persons are practicing techniques that involves resting the hands on the surface of the clients body without delivering pressure to or manipulation of the soft tissues. Services such as herbal body wraps, skin exfoliation treatments or the topical application of products to the skin for beautification purposes are not considered to be the practice of massage and bodywork therapy, as long as such services do not involve direct manipulation of the soft tissues of the body. Anyone who is utilizing exempt techniques or treatments along with the practice of massage or bodywork therapy is not considered exempt and will be required to be licensed.
https://www.bmbt.org/pages/FAQ.html#11.%20What%20practitioners%20are%20exempt
For the two girls at Touch of Asia; if they weren't witnessed giving massages then this defense might work but they need a good lawyer to coach them and they can't have given any statements to LE confessing or saying that they gave massages for a living.All they have to do is have everyone who comes in is sign any name to a form saying they understand that she is not a MT but a movement repatterning expert then she needs to just do a few stretches on the customer during the massage and then the cops will have signed the form and had some technique of a expert done on them so in court the police will have to admit of signing and getting technique from an expert done on them. By the way I'm not talking about the girls from Touch of Asia. They will plead guilty and put up no defense.
Yes, Movement Repatterning is exempt however these girls do not practice repatterning techniques. The techniques they use involve the using the hands, feet, elbows or knees to apply direct pressure or using the hands to manipulate the soft tissue. The only way a girl could try this defense is if the girl was not witnessed giving massage and LE only assumed and she was just charged her without any evidence of what she actually did in the room. It also wouldn't help the girl if the store she works is registered as a massage or body work business. However if LE actually received a massage and then afterwards asked to see her license and she had none then this Movement Repatterning defense could not be used when she practiced the definition of a massage.
Movement Repatterning = Physical Therapist.
Body Work or Massage = Applies pressure or manipulates the soft tissue.
11. What practitioners are exempt from licensure? Pursuant to Rule Section. 0203, the Board considers persons who are utilizing certain Therapeutic techniques may claim exemption from licensure if they meet the following criteria: 1) such persons are practicing techniques that are defined by national organizations that meet the criteria for exemption set forth in either G. S. 90-624 (6) or (7); or 2) such persons are practicing techniques that do not involve any contact with the body of the client; or 3) such persons are practicing techniques that involves resting the hands on the surface of the clients body without delivering pressure to or manipulation of the soft tissues. Services such as herbal body wraps, skin exfoliation treatments or the topical application of products to the skin for beautification purposes are not considered to be the practice of massage and bodywork therapy, as long as such services do not involve direct manipulation of the soft tissues of the body. Anyone who is utilizing exempt techniques or treatments along with the practice of massage or bodywork therapy is not considered exempt and will be required to be licensed.
https://www.bmbt.org/pages/FAQ.html#11.%20What%20practitioners%20are%20exempt
For the two girls at Touch of Asia; if they weren't witnessed giving massages then this defense might work but they need a good lawyer to coach them and they can't have given any statements to LE confessing or saying that they gave massages for a living.All they have to do is have everyone who comes in is sign any name to a form saying they understand that she is not a MT but a movement repatterning expert then she needs to just do a few stretches on the customer during the massage and then the cops will have signed the form and had some technique of a expert done on them so in court the police will have to admit of signing and getting technique from an expert done on them. By the way I'm not talking about the girls from Touch of Asia. They will plead guilty and put up no defense.
All they have to do is have everyone who comes in is sign any name to a form saying they understand that she is not a MT but a movement repatterning expert then she needs to just do a few stretches on the customer during the massage and then the cops will have signed the form and had some technique of a expert done on them so in court the police will have to admit of signing and getting technique from an expert done on them. By the way I'm not talking about the girls from Touch of Asia. They will plead guilty and put up no defense.True, this would work if everyone signed a form, which read that they were not seeing a MT. The store can't have "massage" in its name and the store's business license can't be labeled as a "massage" business. The downside is that I'm not going to pay a (. 7) house fee for some stretching and not get a massage. I enjoy the massage first and foremost and an Asian massage done right is superior to anything at Massage Envy. Back walking is a plus and many Chinese and Filipina ladies have provided that deep tissue massage that you can't find at a Massage Envy, but you can regularly find at an Asian Massage establishment.
Licensing is the best way overall for the girls and for the customer who prefers an Asian Massage. However, I fully understand that the certification test is setup for an American to pass and anyone else who doesn't speak English the certification process is a burden.
True, this would work if everyone signed a form that they are not seeing a MT. The store can't have "massage" in its name and the store's business license can't be labeled as a "massage" business. The downside is that I'm not going to pay a (. 7) house fee for some stretching and not get a massage. I enjoy the massage first and foremost and an Asian massage done right is superior to anything at Massage Envy. Back walking is a plus and many Chinese and Filipina ladies have provided that deep tissue massage that you can't find at a Massage Envy but you can regularly find at an Asian Massage establishment.
Licensing is the best way overall for the girls and for the customer who prefers an Asian Massage. However, I fully understand that the certification test is setup for an American to pass and anyone else who doesn't speak English the certification process is a burden.Yes as I said before they need to change their businesses names and I'm not talking about having a regular customer sign anything just the customer who comes through the door that none of the girls recognize. For regular customers it's business as usual. I know that getting a NC massage license is the way to go but unfortunately that's not a option. I can give you an example but I can't put my girlfriend's name on a open forum. She worked at Studio then Holiday and recently at one of the closed stores. She's the one with the great hair. Anyone who has been around a while knows who I'm talking about and you know her English is not bad and she has meet all the requirements to get her license except the board says she has to be prolific in English which she probably will never be. This is the reason I'm putting so much effort into this because she has done nothing wrong but want to work and make a living. Everybody who knows her then knows she's worth fighting for.
SkinsFan812
11-07-16, 10:37
Anyone tried this place. Can't find it on jjs list.
I saw an ad for each on BP this weekend. I was encouraged when I passed by and there was no closed sign on the door. I approached the doors and both establishments were locked with the neon open signs turned off. I'm not sure why the ads were posted on Friday and Saturday unless they were only open for just two days.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-relaxing-center-at-the-corner-of-hwy42-and40-919-329-0090-5176-hwy42-west/20876566
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-excellent-masseurs-right-off-hwy-40-exit-312-919-779-9937/20865124
Raleighassman
11-07-16, 13:41
What he said!
I've seen Krista numerous times over the years, she has come and gone from the area a couple of times. She is a little fire ball alright!. Very educated and friendly and puts you at ease immediately. Has always offered a very clean, safe private incall and a fantastic non rushed erotic session, and is just a cool person to talk with and hang out with. She has the same MO and price point as Kat (gorgeous brunette MILF) I actually saw them together several years ago when they were first starting out in the area, THAT was one for the memory books! And have seen them both individually numerous times since. Their hourly rate is higher than most, but you get what you pay for. Through our numerous conversations over the years is does not surprise me that she is now going by "Mistress Belle-K" that was something she had talked about in the past. I see that she has teamed up with "Goddess A" whom I have also seen numerous times over the years for FBSM sessions. I have known both of these ladies for many years, and they are both highly educated and experienced in sensuality, eroticism and their art. Although I can't speak on their BDSM sessions (not really my thing) if it is anything like their FBSM sessions. You can't go wrong!.
Renegade33
11-07-16, 16:21
Trina has been reviewed here before so I decided to pay her a visit during my weekend trip to your area. YMMV but I had an outstanding time with her. The massage was definitely sensual and the release was way better than the normal finishes we get in NoVA. She has been reviewed multiple times so I will spare the details. Lets just say I will be back for more visits. We vibed as soon as I walked thru the door which I think made the session that much more enjoyable. No idea how to post the link from my iMac but she's well known so searching will get you her link. Definitely made my trip a good one.
TheSting24
11-07-16, 16:38
Glad you got a taste. She is a keeper, always aims to please.
S.
Trina has been reviewed here before so I decided to pay her a visit during my weekend trip to your area. YMMV but I had an outstanding time with her. The massage was definitely sensual and the release was way better than the normal finishes we get in NoVA. She has been reviewed multiple times so I will spare the details. Lets just say I will be back for more visits. We vibed as soon as I walked thru the door which I think made the session that much more enjoyable. No idea how to post the link from my iMac but she's well known so searching will get you her link. Definitely made my trip a good one.
Glad you got a taste. She is a keeper, always aims to please.
S.Couldn't agree more. Never have had a bad time with her.
I went by #29 #40 and #11 tonight all closed. Funny thing is #11 was open this morning. Cary's finest must have made the rounds.
I went by #29 #40 and #11 tonight all closed. Funny thing is #11 was open this morning. Cary's finest must have made the rounds.I also went through Cary and #0010 was also closed along with #0029 and #0040. #0011 was open this afternoon, but they only have one girl working and they must have closed before it got dark.
Pgrandis54
11-07-16, 22:10
Tried the new place on 70 past Tom cats. $50 intro price for the hour. Nice rub 7 on the looks no tease preflip al business. Might be more with frequent visits. I know these gals want to make more money.
Acupressure next to bass pro is definitely all business good intro price $48 got me interested.
Nice rub if that's all you want.
Third place the charm after reading reviews. New girl been there 2 vdays not hardest massage but kinda sensual with some new techniques and felt like she was enjoying her job. No preflip tease and kind of cautious. Front dance was slow and sensual different than most gals rubbed her ass a little and got the signal ok? Yeah ok. Then the slowest sexy buildup ever. She was way in to this part. Best in a long while. Nice foot and scalp finish. Don't think she was expecting tip laid it on table she ran around table and hugged me for long time. Nice you call next time ask for me. Uh yeah.
Tried the new place on 70 past Tom cats. $50 intro price for the hour. Nice rub 7 on the looks no tease preflip al business. Might be more with frequent visits. I know these gals want to make more money.
Acupressure next to bass pro is definitely all business good intro price $48 got me interested.
Nice rub if that's all you want.
Third place the charm after reading reviews. New girl been there 2 vdays not hardest massage but kinda sensual with some new techniques and felt like she was enjoying her job. No preflip tease and kind of cautious. Front dance was slow and sensual different than most gals rubbed her ass a little and got the signal ok? Yeah ok. Then the slowest sexy buildup ever. She was way in to this part. Best in a long while. Nice foot and scalp finish. Don't think she was expecting tip laid it on table she ran around table and hugged me for long time. Nice you call next time ask for me. Uh yeah.3Rd place location? Oh by the way your PM box is full and can't receive messages.
With all the closing's just wanted to mention about this place.
The owner is the only one running this store and she's on vacation out of the country for a little while. There is a note on her door listing the closed dates, don't worry I know her and it has nothing to do with what's going on at the other places she is actually out of town. Not sure what message if any you will get if you try calling the listed number for the store but she will be returning.
I've been lurking for close to 4 years now. Several times I've thought about sharing. Finally feel like I need to.
I've visited close to 12 different spots over the years, and JJ's list has been spot on. Every time I feel like I've found an ATF they seem to disappear or the place gets shut down. It's also why I've been (selfishly) reluctant to post details about my ATFs or good experiences because I don't want all you horn dogs blowing up my spots I found myself with several hours to kill tonight and a little extra cash than usual, and decided to finally take the plunge and check out #18. Given the distance and cost of 18, I figure it's safe to finally share my experiences with you fellow mongers.
Over the years I've had some REALLY good massages, and a few extras thrown in from time to time. But I've never had both in NC. I had both (at a fraction of the cost) in San Jose (and she was STUNNING, probably a 9 with looks and body), but that's a hell of a drive for an amazing massage with all extras, no?
Walking out of this place I was lighter (in several ways) than ever before, but to me it was worth it. It was, by far, the best massage I've ever had, bar none. I was really concerned this trip was going to be a bust at first. I've read that getting in the door can be tricky, and when I pulled up I saw a guy awkwardly standing inside the outer door but not being let inside the inner door. He was probably in his 40's and he looked really uncomfortable pacing back and forth inside the waiting area. He finally gave up and left. Not good I thought. So I called them, and a lady answered. I asked if they were still open, she said yes and asked when I'd be by. I said about 10 minutes, she said "OK you been here before?" and I said "yes" - knowing full well how this dance goes.
I waited about 5 minutes (didn't want someone else to walk up and scoop me), went up, rang the bell, was let in after paying the standard door fee for this place. An older lady (probably a 5-6 in looks) walked me to a room. I was pleasantly surprised by the cleanliness and brightness of it all. I'm not sure what I expected 18 to look like, but this was not it. What happened next. Wow. The older lady managed to pop my back and my neck, multiple times. She walked on my back and REALLY got into my muscles. And I asked for medium pressure! Near the end she asked how much $ I wanted to tip, I told her an amount that was what I knew from these forums as being a really good (read: expected) tip at this place, and she said "ok, I get young girl. " She walked out and what walked in next was an 8-9 in looks. The rest. Well. Like I said, I'm lighter in multiple ways.
It absolutely sucks that this place is within reasonable striking distance of my house (no further than anywhere else on the list), checks ALL the boxes (and MORE), but is SO expensive, comparatively speaking to other AMPs. I think, at this point in my life however, I'm just going to scale back my sessions and "save up" for 18 exclusively.
This is a story from my past. It may or may not have some relevance to recent events locally, but it's an interesting story on its own so I thought it worth sharing.
Back in the late 1980's I lived in New Orleans. At the time, there were several AMPs along Hwy 90 in New Orleans East.
One evening, I visited one of my favorite AMPs and was greeted by a provider I had seen before, and who knew me well. I was in the habit of having the shower AFTER the massage, to get the oil off before I went home. The visit proceeded as normal up until the flip. She rubbed my chest and legs, and when I pointed at my dick, she raised a finger to her lips in a "shush" gesture. She began massaging my scalp, and leaned close to my ear and whispered "in shower. ".
When we got to the shower, she again leaned close and whispered "no cameras in here. " She mentioned that the police had been there during the previous week. Her English was limited, so I never did figure out if the police had installed the cameras, or if the owner had put them in to keep the girls from getting too enthusiastic in their attempts to increase their tips. I do know that the place closed for good a couple of months later.
This is a story from my past. It may or may not have some relevance to recent events locally, but it's an interesting story on its own so I thought it worth sharing.
Back in the late 1980's I lived in New Orleans. At the time, there were several AMPs along Hwy 90 in New Orleans East.
One evening, I visited one of my favorite AMPs and was greeted by a provider I had seen before, and who knew me well. I was in the habit of having the shower AFTER the massage, to get the oil off before I went home. The visit proceeded as normal up until the flip. She rubbed my chest and legs, and when I pointed at my dick, she raised a finger to her lips in a "shush" gesture. She began massaging my scalp, and leaned close to my ear and whispered "in shower. ".
When we got to the shower, she again leaned close and whispered "no cameras in here. " She mentioned that the police had been there during the previous week. Her English was limited, so I never did figure out if the police had installed the cameras, or if the owner had put them in to keep the girls from getting too enthusiastic in their attempts to increase their tips. I do know that the place closed for good a couple of months later.It's an interesting story. It's possible anywhere if a store was targeted for a specific reason such as drugs or underage services or human trafficking. But just to catch a rub and tug operation while there are 2 or 3 more just down the road would be a loss for their bang for their buck. And it would be common sense if they are going through all this effort to put cameras in the massage room's why exclude the shower room? And of course they would have to do this with the cooperation of the owners and once the girls caught wind of these cameras they would be gone quicker than you could blink. Why would they stay? These girls like attention but they don't want to attract attention know what I mean. They like to operate UTR in plain sight. Us or them would be the same, cameras? I'm out of here! Interesting story though thanks for sharing proves it can happen.
Vanilla Gorill
11-08-16, 18:41
Is anyone who has seen able to share the pricing, she seems a bit different than other providers I have seen but I am interested in trying her out. PM is fine.
She really is a laid back, cool gal. No pressure, she holds a good conversation, gives a decent body rub as well. Definitely worth a visit.
Is anyone who has seen able to share the pricing, she seems a bit different than other providers I have seen but I am interested in trying her out. PM is fine.I read someplace 60+180. But no clue.
MedJohnson
11-08-16, 20:26
It's an interesting story. It's possible anywhere if a store was targeted for a specific reason such as drugs or underage services or human trafficking. But just to catch a rub and tug operation while there are 2 or 3 more just down the road would be a loss for their bang for their buck. And it would be common sense if they are going through all this effort to put cameras in the massage room's why exclude the shower room? And of course they would have to do this with the cooperation of the owners and once the girls caught wind of these cameras they would be gone quicker than you could blink. Why would they stay? These girls like attention but they don't want to attract attention know what I mean. They like to operate UTR in plain sight. Us or them would be the same, cameras? I'm out of here! Interesting story though thanks for sharing proves it can happen.I had same thoughts. Probably easier to clean up in the shower or for noise control or something. No girl would stick around if she knew there were cams. I do always look for anything suspicious in the rooms, but I agree that the bang for the buck would be pretty low. I have to imagine that would be a pretty tough warrant to obtain saying they could film every customer.
Med.
Raleighassman
11-09-16, 14:50
180 for the hour recently, not rushed.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/Domination/mistress-belle-k-you-have-nothing-to-lose-but-control-private-play-space-well-reviewed/28576186
How much did you spend?
http://charlotte.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/our-standards-have-now-been-set-thank-you-melania-trump-for-setting-the-bar-were-proud-americans/10718482
Raleighassman
11-09-16, 18:11
I just paid 180, for the hour. Sexy gal, amazing tits. Saw her twice this week! .
I read someplace 60+180. But no clue.
TheSting24
11-09-16, 18:28
Yep, and I double dog guarantee that every girl in the shop looks this good or better. No, triple dog.
S.
http://charlotte.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/our-standards-have-now-been-set-thank-you-melania-trump-for-setting-the-bar-were-proud-americans/10718482
Does anyone no the name of the blond lady that use to work at the bath house in durham, she had a little meat on her bones, around 30 ish but was a lot of fun. I have not been there in about a year. Just wanted to no if the she is still there or moved on to greener pastures.
#43 busted today and saw 2 cary cop cars at #29 and they aren't even open.
#43 busted today and saw 2 cary cop cars at #29 and they aren't even open.#43 was a a rip off anyway. Where did you see they were busted?
Is anyone who has seen able to share the pricing, she seems a bit different than other providers I have seen but I am interested in trying her out. PM is fine.Been around a long time, had moved to Florida for a while, Does post for regular massages in other areas not just BP.
Rdudreaming
11-09-16, 22:54
For all of those that have posted the outstanding comments about Krista, I have two words for you:
THANK YOU!
MedJohnson
11-09-16, 23:09
#43 was a a rip off anyway. Where did you see they were busted?TY on uncle's album.
#43 busted today and saw 2 cary cop cars at #29 and they aren't even open.Back in the good old days (like a year or two ago) I could keep up with how these stores were related to each other, now I have know freaking idea. But I don't think that there are owners that own like 5 stores in one area like in the past but it is possible that there are still some owners that own maybe 2 or 3. So if one store gets popped it may trigger another store to close as well as could be the case with Apex / Westgate etc. Or these 2 stores T98 mentioned like I said I don't know. But it's definitly a fact that LE is on the prowl especially in Cary going back as far as early last year such as sightings of LE at ATSU & Yucca in Cary. When all the stores were open and thriving in Cary that was a lot of stores for that size town especially it being what I consider a upper middle class culture, it ain't like the stores are in a back alley or Cary has a Hood section. In other words with that many stores there's nowhere to blend so that volumne of stores attracts attention eventually, but LE doesn't mess with the nude tittie bar does it? I guess the folks running the city swing by now and then for some drinks and relaxation. We will just have to see how it all shakes out and who survives. It is that time of year so I will say if the folks at the local level ever figure out how to tax the Parlors and make a buck on it, Happy Endings could be legalized with no massage license required it would be classified as "Therapeutic Service" or as I call it using proper grammar BUSTING A NUT, everybody makes money and the customer is satisfied. Sure as hell beats playing cat and mouse with LE. Sorry I forgot what I started out talking about I drifted into politics, Damn way too many political commercials screwing with my thoughts glad it's over. Y'all be safe.
#43 was a a rip off anyway. Where did you see they were busted?I was asked to go bail the girl out who was arrested. Another charge of massage without a license. I'm sure her picture will show up on ccbi mugshot website.
I was asked to go bail the girl out who was arrested. Another charge of massage without a license. I'm sure her picture will show up on ccbi mugshot website.Yes, the picture did post. I wonder if the owners are being honest with their girls about the possibility of getting charged for practicing massage without a license? If it was me I would be on the next bus back to NY to look for another city that doesn't have RDU's problem.
MedJohnson
11-10-16, 18:46
Yes, the picture did post. I wonder if the owners are being honest with their girls about the possibility of getting charged for practicing massage without a license? If it was me I would be on the next bus back to NY to look for another city that doesn't have RDU's problem.I have talked with a couple of the girls (that I have had a bit of a relationship with) about the risks. Mostly shrug it off. They make better money from tips than they could make anyplace else so I guess the risk is worth it. Plus not terrible consequences when it comes down to it.
Stay safe.
Med.
Yes, the picture did post. I wonder if the owners are being honest with their girls about the possibility of getting charged for practicing massage without a license? If it was me I would be on the next bus back to NY to look for another city that doesn't have RDU's problem.I'm sure 99% of these girls / ladies know the risk of getting caught doing the naughty for cash and working without a massage license especially this ladies age that got busted. She doesn't look like she just got off of the plane. What many of these girls don't know is what are they getting themselves into when they start a new job. After all there's a reason the job became vacant. Is it because the store is raking it in and needs help or no business the reason they can't keep help, shitty boss, store is getting harassed, A new girl coming here may have no idea what's been going on with the stores around here kinda like us we don't know when we change jobs either except they have the threat of landing in jail. Would the boss or co-workers give them a heads up maybe but I doubt it if they need help
I have talked with a couple of the girls (that I have had a bit of a relationship with) about the risks. Mostly shrug it off. They make better money from tips than they could make anyplace else so I guess the risk is worth it. Plus not terrible consequences when it comes down to it.
Stay safe.
Med.
I'm sure 99% of these girls / ladies know the risk of getting caught doing the naughty for cash and working without a massage license especially this ladies age that got busted. She doesn't look like she just got off of the plane. What many of these girls don't know is what are they getting themselves into when they start a new job. After all there's a reason the job became vacant. Is it because the store is raking it in and needs help or no business the reason they can't keep help, shitty boss, store is getting harassed, A new girl coming here may have no idea what's been going on with the stores around here kinda like us we don't know when we change jobs either except they have the threat of landing in jail. Would the boss or co-workers give them a heads up maybe but I doubt it if they need helpYes, some girls who have been here awhile might be willing to stay and take the risk. If there is only one or two girls working then that means a higher percentage of clients and of course more tips. New girls though probably don't know and I agree with the analogy if we went to work for a new company we assume that the company is being run right and will have a long prosperous future.
The stores in the area are a hit or miss on their operating hours. One day a place is open and the next it either closes early or is not open at all. The two stores in Garner were open yesterday, but the one I wanted to visit in Cary was closed. I have found that calling ahead is the best rather than just showing up finding them closed. If they answer at least you know they are open at that moment. So far 2 out of 3 places I've visited lately have given a handshake so there is uncertainty out there.
PoopPoppington
11-11-16, 16:19
Hey guys, first post here, been lurking for about a year now. I've been reading all the posts here, but it is a bit hard to follow at times. Exactly what AMPs in the cary / apex are closed and which ones are ripe for the picking? Appreciate any feedback.
Hey guys, first post here, been lurking for about a year now. I've been reading all the posts here, but it is a bit hard to follow at times. Exactly what AMPs in the cary / apex are closed and which ones are ripe for the picking? Appreciate any feedback.If you've been reading the board for a year you should know what Cary and Apex offer or any other location near by. As far as availability? P45 gave the best advice CALL when you are ready to visit which would apply to all of us.
Hey guys, first post here, been lurking for about a year now. I've been reading all the posts here, but it is a bit hard to follow at times. Exactly what AMPs in the cary / apex are closed and which ones are ripe for the picking? Appreciate any feedback.This is funny poop!
I had the pleasure of meeting alot of the girls who have left our area because of recent busts. I spent the weekend with my girlfriend in New York and went to a couple of party's where there were so many girls who said they loved working here but couldn't take the risk of being arrested so they moved on. Most are taking a little time off or going to massage school before heading to the Midwest to work. If you had a favorite MT who left our area they are not coming back including my girlfriend. She has a massage license in another state and has moved there. Lucky for me I own a very large company in the city she is at and travel there every week so nothing changes for us. Please don't pm about specific girls because I only know them by their real Chinese names not their MT aliases so unless you have their Chinese names I can't help you. I would think it will take at least 6 months to year of no busts before girls trust our area again. It's unfortunate because theses girls are real people who are just trying to make a living for their families.
JakeLaMotta69
11-14-16, 09:20
Any idea what time of day this took place?This allegedly happened on a Tuesday morning at about 11 am.
For all of those that have posted the outstanding comments about Krista, I have two words for you:
THANK YOU!I can't share you sentiments. No edging found here, more like allot of not getting to the task at hand. For me it was YMMV and I had hopes of some actual edging.
SailorNunTown
11-14-16, 14:28
I can't share you sentiments. No edging found here, more like allot of not getting to the task at hand. For me it was YMMV and I had hopes of some actual edging.Been lurking on this forum for years, but never ever really moved to post. Until now because this comment is NOT about the person I've seen off and on for several years.
Dude, I seriously think, all kidding aside, that you saw a different provider than the one you are referencing. I say this because MY Krista (www.mistressbellek.com) is so all about edging and so good at it, you'd thing she invented it. She truly is one of the best I've seen, and, yup, I've seen a lot.
I can't share you sentiments. No edging found here, more like allot of not getting to the task at hand. For me it was YMMV and I had hopes of some actual edging.I hate to hear that. She's one of my ATF. Be straight up with her about what you want. She isn't shy and you shouldn't be either. She's extremely understanding as well.
Been lurking on this forum for years, but never ever really moved to post. Until now because this comment is NOT about the person I've seen off and on for several years.
Dude, I seriously think, all kidding aside, that you saw a different provider than the one you are referencing. I say this because MY Krista (www.mistressbellek.com) is so all about edging and so good at it, you'd thing she invented it. She truly is one of the best I've seen, and, yup, I've seen a lot.Must be that we did not click, or maybe that it was an off day.
Must be that we did not click, or maybe that it was an off day.Everyone has their own taste but I have to ask isn't there anything better?
Everyone has their own taste but I have to ask isn't there anything better?There may be better. Finding someone that is not in a rush is part of it. If looking for a specific thing, like edging is not as easy. Sure you can get a $$$ agency girl to do it. Well maybe that is the route to go. This girl has a unique "look" and when dressed is stunning. If I were looking for CFNM action I would pick her in a heartbeat!
Recently visited this place in Durham, it's new been there a few months. It's much cleaner and decorated better than most of the AMP's around here. $60 for one hour great massage the overall visit was standard I'll repeat if I'm in the area.
Using JJ's List numbers.
0001) Two visits in last 30 days.
1st visit. Guy and older woman who ran the store on Six Forks 0003 for ever. Harsh woman. Drew a cutie. Easy 7 on the AMP scale.
No go on first touch on ass. Good massage with hot stones and such. Flat refuse on HE. Cash in face, still nope. . 2 tip as she was good on the massage.
2nd Visit: same Guy at desk. Come back in 30? Weird cause I had just go the same story at 0037. Sat and watched another get turned away from 0037. Next guy stayed. Must have been ok with waiting inside.
Found a BP girl to take care of me.
0041.
Two visits in last 30 days.
1st: Drew 'Mimi' (Come on ladies. Just tell me your real name. I am going to start saying my name is Chachi.).
Ok massage. Nice body. Giggles and wiggles when I grab ass or coochie before the flip.
Flip. Asked for BJ. (Stupid little redneck me forgot rubbers.) She asked if I had one. Nope. She say. Hold on. Comes back with a 12 x12 inch square of saran wrap. Played ghost with little ED and dang. She could make it happen. Deep, back of throat, tongue on balls. Had to adjust the sheet a few times but got me super close and then pulled off the wrap and put it between hand and tit and made a mess. Cleaned me up nice. . 6 tip.
2nd: Drew the house mom. Not much in the face, but not a bad body. And really, she is way more fun. Took out the girls to put on the back when I was messing with her coochie pre-flip. Same stupid guy forgot the condoms again. Suggested the wrap trick and she was suprised but willing. Unfortunately, she did not have the talent. Said I was too thick to do that with. Oh well. Tits out. Slow rub. Gummybears in the sun on her chest. She promised Mimi again next time. No doubt!
0037 Busy come back in 30 twice. Watched a few others turned away so seems legit. But each time I noticed the girl who came to counter was NOT in a room with a client but in the back. So it seems they are keeping someone free to 'watch' the door. Given the fun times in Cary I would suggest all shops do the same.
Tried a few new BP rub girls. No body worth the effort of writing a review. Neither really good or really bad. Well, one that is off the charts. But she asks for no reviews. Seniors. PM if interested.
Out of town for a bit. Hope to sample the finest in dark room asian handjob providers during my travels. And. Since SHEWHOMUSTBEOBEYED is not on this trip, may watch some surgically augmented ladies Polish brass with silk. Fun TIMES!
So there are two in Garner - #12 Atsu & #25 Super R.
I will be traveling through the area soon and need a recommendation.
I have visited # 12 before. It was about 6 Months ago. Attendee was a 6 out of 10. Massage was very good. Standard finish was good. OTCR was fine. UTCR was not practical with clothing being worn. Attitude was good.
I got the impression that maybe the visit could have been better w different girl. Can anyone report on this one with recent visit?
Also the Super Relax. Is that a better choice?
I will be coming from Burlington area so I can deviate to others if suggested. These two just happen to be right on the path.
Thanks in advance. Baja.
So there are two in Garner - #12 Atsu & #25 Super R.
I will be traveling through the area soon and need a recommendation.
I have visited # 12 before. It was about 6 Months ago. Attendee was a 6 out of 10. Massage was very good. Standard finish was good. OTCR was fine. UTCR was not practical with clothing being worn. Attitude was good.
I got the impression that maybe the visit could have been better w different girl. Can anyone report on this one with recent visit?
Also the Super Relax. Is that a better choice?
I will be coming from Burlington area so I can deviate to others if suggested. These two just happen to be right on the path.
Thanks in advance. Baja.Both stores have different girls however if one store is busy they will help each other by sending a girl over if a customer is waiting. Your experience is the norm. Standard finish always and some OTCR is ok. Most are ok with UTCR up top but I always ask first. Established or liked customers might get additional UTCR or removal. Occasionally, like anywhere else you will find one who will offer more but that's never been my experience at these two places. If you do ask the standard answer given, "I can't because the boss will know".
Recently visited this place in Durham, it's new been there a few months. It's much cleaner and decorated better than most of the AMP's around here. $60 for one hour great massage the overall visit was standard I'll repeat if I'm in the area.My original post I did last night I mistakenly put it on the JJ'a list thread hahaha sorry it was late and I am IPad challenged. It's just a little more detailed about the store layout. Standard service.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-asian-body-work-919-633-6312/31768607
Open til 11 PM and they mention "+Tips" in the ad. That gets my attention in a couple ways.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-asian-body-work-919-633-6312/31768607
Open til 11 PM and they mention "+Tips" in the ad. That gets my attention in a couple ways.I TOFTT and paid a visit. This is an AAMP, not a retail location and not all that close to North Hills shopping center. This place is closer to Lynn & Six Forks. Called them for location, they txt'd it back to me. Called again once I arrived at the building. Massage was just okay, but I left very satisfied.
Rate is. 6 hr. I dropped 1. 6 total.
Will repeat.
I TOFTT and paid a visit. This is an AAMP, not a retail location and not all that close to North Hills shopping center. This place is closer to Lynn & Six Forks. Called them for location, they txt'd it back to me. Called again once I arrived at the building. Massage was just okay, but I left very satisfied.
Rate is. 6 hr. I dropped 1. 6 total.
Will repeat.Any Asian Massage ad without an address can presumed to be a AAMP gig.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-asian-body-work-919-633-6312/31768607
Open til 11 PM and they mention "+Tips" in the ad. That gets my attention in a couple ways.3 or 4 girls available too. When I arrived there was one pair of shoes at the door, mens boots. I placed mine there. When I left there were 4 pairs, and my girl spoke with another girl at one point at the door. Same damage as below. I got a VERY trim tallish maybe late 20's with perfectly flat tummy and long straight hair. Ok "massage" on flip she used hand gesture for what I wanted. She tried but my size made it very tough. She really did try to take it, but I never could get the train all the way in the tunnel. No rush. Bigger guys may want to opt for other activities.
TheNcGuy73
11-20-16, 00:11
3 or 4 girls available too. When I arrived there was one pair of shoes at the door, mens boots. I placed mine there. When I left there were 4 pairs, and my girl spoke with another girl at one point at the door. Same damage as below. I got a VERY trim tallish maybe late 20's with perfectly flat tummy and long straight hair. Ok "massage" on flip she used hand gesture for what I wanted. She tried but my size made it very tough. She really did try to take it, but I never could get the train all the way in the tunnel. No rush. Bigger guys may want to opt for other activities.Thanks guys for your reviews on this one. They were all spot on. I just returned from a visit to this place and. 6 / hour plus $ tip. Very petite young woman 5'1 102 lbs max great body very tight. She is a 7 in my books message was ok whole experience lasted 35 min but very satisfying experience. I don't know how long these places usually last but I can't wait to get back there.
I wanted to try the place close to North Hills; visited by MickeyMic and Editit, but decided on giving you guys a report on this other ad with no address listed. I called and the lady asked if I wanted to make an appointment. I asked what was the age of the girl and she said 27. I said, "ok, I want an appointment" and the lady said, "if don't like the girl you can leave, no problem" and "I'll text you the address". The place is a nice apartment on Jones Franklin Rd near Lake Johnson. Once I arrived, I called and was given the apartment number. I went to the door, knocked and a petite, nice looking lady wearing a black dress opened the door. I entered and was asked to take off my shoes and then I was escorted to a bed room with a professional massage table. 30 minutes is (. 45) and 60 minutes is (. 60). I took the 60 minute option, no draping was used and the massage was relaxing. On the flip I was asked, "what was available" and the communication was done with hand gestures. A handshake (. 40) and the other two options were ($. 2 and $. 4). I took the ($. 4) option and I left very satisfied. I thought the lady had a very pleasant demeanor throughout and I would repeat. It's too bad I'll have to wait because she said, "I'm leaving on Sunday, for vacation, but I'll return in 1 month". I do believe there is another girl available and I've seen this number in the Body Rubs for a while now so this AAMP is not new.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-line-up-new-asian-girls-just-arrived-sexy-and-hot/24506594
I TOFTT and paid a visit. This is an AAMP, not a retail location and not all that close to North Hills shopping center. This place is closer to Lynn & Six Forks. Called them for location, they txt'd it back to me. Called again once I arrived at the building. Massage was just okay, but I left very satisfied. Rate is. 6 hr. I dropped 1. 6 total. Will repeat.
3 or 4 girls available too. When I arrived there was one pair of shoes at the door, men's boots. I placed mine there. When I left there were 4 pairs, and my girl spoke with another girl at one point at the door. Same damage as below. I got a VERY trim tallish maybe late 20's with perfectly flat tummy and long straight hair. Ok "massage" on flip she used hand gesture for what I wanted. She tried but my size made it very tough. She really did try to take it, but I never could get the train all the way in the tunnel. No rush. Bigger guys may want to opt for other activities.
Thanks guys for your reviews on this one. They were all spot on. I just returned from a visit to this place and. 6 / hour plus $ tip. Very petite young woman 5'1 102 lbs max great body very tight. She is a 7 in my books message was ok whole experience lasted 35 min but very satisfying experience. I don't know how long these places usually last but I can't wait to get back there.
XHippie has been mentioning these AAMP's. So far, these establishments offer younger and better looking girls, reasonable rates and more privacy than what you can find at the local massage spa. I have heard that VIP has a gal who is an "8 or 9", but that is extremely rare for them or anyone else in our area. With the spa closings and limited or no services available at the remaining local massage stores; these AAMP's are a viable option especially if you like an expanded menu. The only draw back is I like a very good massage and most places I've experienced in the past with expanded menus usually just offer a so so massage. It comes down to a very good massage with just a handshake at your local AMP or an "ok" massage with expanded menu at a AAMP. Luckily I got both yesterday and it takes some experimenting to find the gal(s) who suits your needs.
On a side note I've found that starting in CG with smaller girls allows her to be in control and adjust at her own pace.
PleasureSeeker
11-20-16, 12:15
XHippie has been mentioning these AAMP's. So far, these establishments offer younger and better looking girls, reasonable rates and more privacy than what you can find at the local massage spa. I have heard that VIP has a gal who is an "8 or 9", but that is extremely rare for them or anyone else in our area. With the spa closings and limited or no services available at the remaining local massage stores; these AAMP's are a viable option especially if you like an expanded menu. The only draw back is I like a very good massage and most places I've experienced in the past with expanded menus usually just offer a so so massage. It comes down to a very good massage with just a handshake at your local AMP or an "ok" massage with expanded menu at a AAMP. Luckily I got both yesterday and it takes some experimenting to find the gal(s) who suits your needs.
On a side note I've found that starting in CG with smaller girls allows her to be in control and adjust at her own pace.Wanted to PM you, Purple, but your mail is full.
So I've only tried one AMP in town, in Cary, and it was disappointing. HJ and a lame massage. From your post, it sounds like you are getting FS with pretty decent Asian girls. What's the secret to getting FS? Anyone try the new AMP off Buck Jones in Cary?
Thanks.
XHippie has been mentioning these AAMP's. So far, these establishments offer younger and better looking girls, reasonable rates and more privacy than what you can find at the local massage spa. I have heard that VIP has a gal who is an "8 or 9", but that is extremely rare for them or anyone else in our area. With the spa closings and limited or no services available at the remaining local massage stores; these AAMP's are a viable option especially if you like an expanded menu. The only draw back is I like a very good massage and most places I've experienced in the past with expanded menus usually just offer a so so massage. It comes down to a very good massage with just a handshake at your local AMP or an "ok" massage with expanded menu at a AAMP. Luckily I got both yesterday and it takes some experimenting to find the gal(s) who suits your needs.
On a side note I've found that starting in CG with smaller girls allows her to be in control and adjust at her own pace.The AAMP business model falls under the same category as the BP girls which is UTR in plain sight. Set up the meeting using a calling system, set a time, meet, settle, do the deed, leave. When you see the number of BP girls advertising compared to the number getting busted the ratio is low. It will be interesting to see if the Asians have the same luck or will they be targeted more because they are Asian which is what's happening to the stores. See how many stores have been popped compared to the BP girls! Same advertisement venu. IMO they (aamp) need to learn the art of LE check to protect themselves a little more I try to explain this whenever I get the chance but my Mandrin is so so. And they rotate these girls so often the newer ones are not aware of this or this area's history. The American BP girls are a little more savvy in this area. This is still early in the game for AAMP's in this area, If it proves to be safe and profitable you will see more. Sorry the business man in me always takes over when I'm thinking about a subject. As they get more comfortable being ok and the cash is there it will attract more business, and we all know cash rules so the better looking women will be attracted to come here. I've been to apartments in LA where there were 5 drop dead gorgeous Korean women to choose from entry plus $100 and everything included on the menu I mean any hole you want to poke. If successful these AAMP's will give the Asian jack shacks big competition. I'm like P45 I love a great massage and will go to a place where I can get one but sometimes you got to get that certain itch scratched. Wait and see what happens.
Gents.
I read some of your post but can not figure out what the the best place for a little extra.
Be down that area next week look for a place to visit.
Anyone have a recommended? Maybe a web link?
Gents.
I read some of your post but can not figure out what the the best place for a little extra.
Be down that area next week look for a place to visit.
Anyone have a recommended? Maybe a web link?Check your inbox for a PM.
MedJohnson
11-20-16, 20:17
XHippie has been mentioning these AAMP's. So far, these establishments offer younger and better looking girls, reasonable rates and more privacy than what you can find at the local massage spa. I have heard that VIP has a gal who is an "8 or 9", but that is extremely rare for them or anyone else in our area. With the spa closings and limited or no services available at the remaining local massage stores; these AAMP's are a viable option especially if you like an expanded menu. The only draw back is I like a very good massage and most places I've experienced in the past with expanded menus usually just offer a so so massage. It comes down to a very good massage with just a handshake at your local AMP or an "ok" massage with expanded menu at a AAMP. Luckily I got both yesterday and it takes some experimenting to find the gal(s) who suits your needs.
On a side note I've found that starting in CG with smaller girls allows her to be in control and adjust at her own pace.Going to come down to the neighbors. The place in NH is pretty conspicuous. Nosy neighbors will be what gets it shut down or they might be cool neighbors and it will thrive. Hope it lasts. Hit it twice since it opened and have the girl's WeChat so I will repeat.
Stay safe.
Med.
Been lurking on this forum for years, but never ever really moved to post. Until now because this comment is NOT about the person I've seen off and on for several years.
Dude, I seriously think, all kidding aside, that you saw a different provider than the one you are referencing. I say this because MY Krista (www.mistressbellek.com) is so all about edging and so good at it, you'd thing she invented it. She truly is one of the best I've seen, and, yup, I've seen a lot.I've been really interested in trying edging. Could you elaborate on your experience with Krista?
Gents.
I read some of your post but can not figure out what the the best place for a little extra.
Be down that area next week look for a place to visit.
Anyone have a recommended? Maybe a web link?I'm actually heading to Raleigh tommorow for the holiday. Can anyone recommend a stop for me along the way?
I wanted to try the place close to North Hills; visited by MickeyMic and Editit, but decided on giving you guys a report on this other ad with no address listed. I called and the lady asked if I wanted to make an appointment. I asked what was the age of the girl and she said 27. I said, "ok, I want an appointment" and the lady said, "if don't like the girl you can leave, no problem" and "I'll text you the address". The place is a nice apartment on Jones Franklin Rd near Lake Johnson. Once I arrived, I called and was given the apartment number. I went to the door, knocked and a petite, nice looking lady wearing a black dress opened the door. I entered and was asked to take off my shoes and then I was escorted to a bed room with a professional massage table. 30 minutes is (. 45) and 60 minutes is (. 60). I took the 60 minute option, no draping was used and the massage was relaxing. On the flip I was asked, "what was available" and the communication was done with hand gestures. A handshake (. 40) and the other two options were ($. 2 and $. 4). I took the ($. 4) option and I left very satisfied. I thought the lady had a very pleasant demeanor throughout and I would repeat. It's too bad I'll have to wait because she said, "I'm leaving on Sunday, for vacation, but I'll return in 1 month". I do believe there is another girl available and I've seen this number in the Body Rubs for a while now so this AAMP is not new.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-line-up-new-asian-girls-just-arrived-sexy-and-hot/24506594I tried this one when it first came around; girl said she'd only been in the states for a week. Her massage game was the weakest I'd ever experienced. She just sort of poked me for about 15 minutes. The flip offered FS, but it was straight to the point, and even though I had paid for the hour, I was out in 30 m. Wasn't a terrible overall experience, but wasn't a repeatable one for me. This has been a while, so maybe she's picked up some skills since then.
One good thing about it was her English skills. We could actually hold somewhat of a conversation, which was nice.
MM.
XHippie has been mentioning these AAMP's. So far, these establishments offer younger and better looking girls.My first AAMP experience, not all that long ago, was the exact opposite, so remember you CAN walk out if you want to. I picked it based on how close it was, and the BP ad showed poster's age was 26. Lady had to be closer to 60.
She still posts, so business can't be all that bad.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/919-756-1423-new-oriental-massage-treatment-you-never-forget/28972483
Thanks guys for your reviews on this one. They were all spot on. I just returned from a visit to this place and. 6 / hour plus $ tip. Very petite young woman 5'1 102 lbs max great body very tight. She is a 7 in my books message was ok whole experience lasted 35 min but very satisfying experience. I don't know how long these places usually last but I can't wait to get back there.Usually when I hit an AAMP, I get shorted on my time, but I have to say, when I tried this place, I got a full hour. I was impressed with that.
Was in town and decided to see Judy. She works out of her house in a quiet subdivision not far from the airport. Her ad says she is 43 but when you see her you know that 43 was a long time ago. I asked her how old she was and all she said was she was in her 50's. My guess is 60's. Since I was already there and not familiar with the area I decided to stay. The pictures that she shows in her ads are representative of her body. For an older woman she did have a tight body. I went to use the bathroom and when I came out she was nude. We proceeded with the massage on her table. She seemed very open to anything, She wanted to know if I was interested in a prostate massage or toys. I passed on both. Started with a oily massage which lasted about 10 minutes while she massage the boys. During the massage I had free roaming on her tits and pussy with fiv. On the flip I told her I wanted her to massage my face with her pussy and which point we moved over to her bed. Did 69 for a while till I exploded. I didn't ask but my guess is that more is on the menu. If your into older women then Judy might fit the bill but don't go looking for a 43 year old. http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-body-rub-nuru-body-slide-mutual-touch/26778596.
I tried this one when it first came around; girl said she'd only been in the states for a week. Her massage game was the weakest I'd ever experienced. She just sort of poked me for about 15 minutes. The flip offered FS, but it was straight to the point, and even though I had paid for the hour, I was out in 30 m. Wasn't a terrible overall experience, but wasn't a repeatable one for me. This has been a while, so maybe she's picked up some skills since then.
One good thing about it was her English skills. We could actually hold somewhat of a conversation, which was nice.
MM.I agree that the results may vary and the girl I saw left on Sunday. They have a rotation and I think they have least two girls available at any given time. I wish I had her name but she was on point and I got the full hour. She is supposed to return in a month and I'll be sure to get her name the next time.
I'm actually heading to Raleigh tommorow for the holiday. Can anyone recommend a stop for me along the way?Check your inbox.
My first AAMP experience, not all that long ago, was the exact opposite, so remember you CAN walk out if you want to. I picked it based on how close it was, and the BP ad showed poster's age was 26. Lady had to be closer to 60.
She still posts, so business can't be all that bad.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/919-756-1423-new-oriental-massage-treatment-you-never-forget/28972483Yes, I posted about this place and the lady was rude on the phone. Her ad is easy to spot ( .5 house fee and the # ends in 1423). Stang613 reported that the lady lacked in the appearance and ability department.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8627-Backpage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3136111&viewfull=1#post3136111.
I agree that the results may vary and the girl I saw left on Sunday. They have a rotation and I think they have least two girls available at any given time. I wish I had her name but she was on point and I got the full hour. She is supposed to return in a month and I'll be sure to get her name the next time.I would not go near these places that are operating in a residential house or apt. They are the easiest for LE to go after and to make it worse they could call it human trafficking and might even be staked out by the Feds. Your not walking into a massage parlor that at least has a license to operate as a business so if they are watching gathering evidence and see you walk in and out than detain you it is not going to fly saying you just went for a massage.
Yes, I posted about this place and the lady was rude on the phone. Her ad is easy to spot ( .5 house fee and the # ends in 1423). Stang613 reported that the lady lacked in the appearance and ability department.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8627-Backpage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3136111&viewfull=1#post3136111.I saw her when she first started and the personality and performance was ok but kinda meh as far as what I was looking for, I've had worse but I left satisfied with the notion if she keeps it up at this pace she's going to burn out and the attitude will only get worse, sounds like that's the case. I believe she actually took a little bit of a break and was gone for awhile when her boyfriend showed up but word is she's back. Must not have got the rest she needed LOL. But I believe what's happening with her more than being a cranky provider is pure greed / burnout, she's working solo at least was when I saw her, and takes as many that call. She's the one with the wam bam thank you man see ya attitude. Think about it if you are pulling in that kind of change $ daily would you want to share it? But on the other hand you think that kind of $ would put her in a better mood. My tip is catch her or any of these other girls as early as possible in the day when they are rested and ready to go. This applies to the AMPs as well these girls have been up since 7 am cleaning, massaging and hand jobbing and one of us swinging dicks walks in at 9:45 pm all perky or fucked up when they are dragging. Sometimes you will luck up and they will do you right especially if they have had a really slow day and need that daily pay. I have found some of the best experiences and the good wet stuff is right when they open. They know I'm clean (tip: cleanness very important to Asian girls) and they are rested and want that early tip. So if your schedule allows try the early visit and see, works for me.
Its been a while and I was looking for a decent massage and a release, so I tried hitting up a few AMPs.
All AMPs on Capital are closed. Number 7 & 9 were both dark with no lights on. Number 8 had inside lights on, but door was locked and a sign saying closed until December 18th (I think).
Since I saw recent adds, I headed to # 50 in Knightdale, and they were open and not too busy. Greeted by a pretty good looking girl, mid 30's if I had to guess, and I'd give her a 7/10 easily for looks, and she was super sweet and funny. I payed $70 and started with a table shower with some playful teasing. She gave a great hard massage with some back walking, which is what I really needed. On the flip a little more teasing and I was asked using a hand gesture if I wanted a tug. I said sure, and then she made a hand gesture with her mouth and asked if I'd rather have that. She said $100 for that and I won't say which option I picked, but there was saran wrap involved and it was very satisfying.
I would not go near these places that are operating in a residential house or apt. They are the easiest for LE to go after and to make it worse they could call it human trafficking and might even be staked out by the Feds. Your not walking into a massage parlor that at least has a license to operate as a business so if they are watching gathering evidence and see you walk in and out than detain you it is not going to fly saying you just went for a massage.You are right you should be concerned if that helps you decide to participate or not, never go into a situation to relax if you are looking over your shoulder impossible to get a boner LOL. As far as the stores being legit and safer well it ain't much different than these AAMP's. By that I mean a store basically is set up this way, the Owner owns the store with the lease in his or her name. The owner does not have to be licensed according to my research, The worker doing the massage is supposed to be licensed with a copy on the store wall and we all know how well that's working out. The AAMP is a resedence, hey I'm just visiting a friend for tea and she just happens to have a massage table in her apartment and is giving me a massage nothing illegal there. Unless a Police Officer or a Fed is sitting on top of the dresser and watches me and the provider negotiate services for cash. I'm either going into a massage store to get a massage or I'm visiting a friend for tea at her apartment. The massage store is more likely to get checked for massage license and have problems which is what's happening all over the area. If there's human trafficking going on how am I involved? My name is not on any passports, plane tickets, bank accounts, apartments lease etc. I have no connection with this girl I'm just visiting the apartment. Remember no one saw us negotiate anything. With the hundreds of millions of dollars of illegal drugs flowing into this state. And the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants crossing the borders into the USA Along with millions already here and all those crazy fucker's that want to blow shit up over here, I can tell you the Feds would be wasting their time staked outside an apartment in Raleigh or Cary watching 1 or 2 skinny Asian girls or some little store at a shitty Plaza. There is rule number one if ANYONE ever looks under age at any place you visit get the hell out and REPORT IT whatever way you feel comfortable doing so, this is not acceptable an on any level! But my point is when we visit one of these AAMP, AMP or BP girls what happens is between 2 consenting adults. Of course doing it for cash is illegal "if" you are caught, as far as the human trafficking it happens but it usually comes to surface and word spreads fast so it usually gets taken care of. But I agree if you are not comfortable with something listen to the big head. This is all just my opinion that helps me but I am glad the AAMP's are bringing some pussy to the area. Pussy good, arrested bad
I would not go near these places that are operating in a residential house or apt. They are the easiest for LE to go after and to make it worse they could call it human trafficking and might even be staked out by the Feds. Your not walking into a massage parlor that at least has a license to operate as a business so if they are watching gathering evidence and see you walk in and out than detain you it is not going to fly saying you just went for a massage.True, there is always that possibility if LE would take the time. However, the same can be said about a BP girl who advertises in the escort section and operates from the same hotel room for weeks straight. An Asian girl offering rubs in her apartment; isn't operating a business nor is she claiming to be a CMT, so she doesn't need a license. If I do your brakes in my garage do I have to be a certified mechanic? If your neighbor's wife cuts your family's hair does she have to be a certified beautician? The answer is highly unlikely that LE is going to put the effort into just a slap on the wrist.
The girl is just renting the apartment and she made the decision on her own to come and stay in Raleigh for a while doing what she can till something more promising comes her way. People come and go all the time. Now if the girl in the apartment says give me $ and I will blow you, now she just crossed the line but that would be true for anybody who did that.
My defense is that I responded to an adult rub offer in an online ad with an Asian girl who just happens to have a professional massage table in her room, so no foul there. I'm not paying for sex because that is illegal and I would walk out if offered. Now once the rub was over and the girl asks if I want more TIME with her, then I would have to donate for her TIME. Whatever happens during that TIME is between two adults who agree on how to use that TIME.
I do get your point though and LE would have to first entrap the girl and then turn her place into a sting operation with the promise if she cooperated then her charges would be dropped. LE can do this with BP escorts girls and so both have equal risk of surveillance and so it just depends on what Uncle wants to do. Now we do know what has happened twice in the past at the La Quinta in Crabtree so it's not impossible.
True, there is always that possibility if LE would take the time. However, the same can be said about a BP girl who advertises in the escort section and operates from the same hotel room for weeks straight. An Asian girl offering rubs in her apartment; isn't operating a business nor is she claiming to be a CMT, so she doesn't need a license. If I do your brakes in my garage do I have to be a certified mechanic? If your neighbor's wife cuts your family's hair does she have to be a certified beautician? The answer is highly unlikely that LE is going to put the effort into just a slap on the wrist.
The girl is just renting the apartment and she made the decision on her own to come and stay in Raleigh for a while doing what she can till something more promising comes her way. People come and go all the time. Now if the girl in the apartment says give me $ and I will blow you, now she just crossed the line but that would be true for anybody who did that.
My defense is that I responded to an adult rub offer in an online ad with an Asian girl who just happens to have a professional massage table in her room, so no foul there. I'm not paying for sex because that is illegal and I would walk out if offered. Now once the rub was over and the girl asks if I want more TIME with her, then I would have to donate for her TIME. Whatever happens during that TIME is between two adults who agree on how to use that TIME.
I do get your point though and LE would have to first entrap the girl and then turn her place into a sting operation with the promise if she cooperated then her charges would be dropped. LE can do this with BP escorts girls and so both have equal risk of surveillance and so it just depends on what Uncle wants to do. Now we do know what has happened twice in the past at the La Quinta in Crabtree so it's not impossible.Exactly, Guys it's very simple the law is you can't get caught doing a sex act in PUBLIC. And you can't get CAUGHT receiving a sex act for cash the key word is caught Period! Any law enforcement agency can watch a place for 24 hours a day even visit the place as a customer but they cannot arrest anyone unless the deed for cash is caught in progress. The fear is not being watched the fear would be getting caught in a sting where cash goes from your hand to hers. A sting takes time and money to happen, likely? Possible but after the first one they have lost their element of surprise. I could care less if someone is watching as long as they are watching from outside. After all the subject is SEX, like P45 said if a Police officer gives his neighbor $20 for cutting his hair all is cool, if he gives the same neighbor $20 for a BJ he has broken the law "IF" he's caught making the exchange.
I saw her when she first started and the personality and performance was ok but kinda meh as far as what I was looking for, I've had worse but I left satisfied with the notion if she keeps it up at this pace she's going to burn out and the attitude will only get worse, sounds like that's the case. I believe she actually took a little bit of a break and was gone for awhile when her boyfriend showed up but word is she's back. Must not have got the rest she needed LOL. But I believe what's happening with her more than being a cranky provider is pure greed / burnout, she's working solo at least was when I saw her, and takes as many that call. She's the one with the wam bam thank you man see ya attitude. Think about it if you are pulling in that kind of change $ daily would you want to share it? But on the other hand you think that kind of $ would put her in a better mood. My tip is catch her or any of these other girls as early as possible in the day when they are rested and ready to go. This applies to the AMPs as well these girls have been up since 7 am cleaning, massaging and hand jobbing and one of us swinging dicks walks in at 9:45 pm all perky or fucked up when they are dragging. Sometimes you will luck up and they will do you right especially if they have had a really slow day and need that daily pay. I have found some of the best experiences and the good wet stuff is right when they open. They know I'm clean (tip: cleanness very important to Asian girls) and they are rested and want that early tip. So if your schedule allows try the early visit and see, works for me.Exactly and regardless of a girl's age or body type if she has a good attitude and offers the service with a smile then guys aren't going to complain because she was genuine and gave her best effort. Greed will lead to overbooking and a rushed experience in time and service because this type of mentality is more concerned about quantity "right now" but this counterproductive in the long run. If she does her business the right way, then repeat customers is where these girls will have some stability in scheduling. Having a good reputation for reliable service is required for repeats because there is a girl for every type of customer and in a pinch every guy likes a reliable standby if the first choice is not available.
Agreed, whether it's a AMP, AMP or BP girl, if you can see her early in the day and better yet be her first customer everything is much better from an attitude, freshness and availability standpoint. A tired body and a bad experience with another customer before you can ruin your scheduled time.
Exactly and regardless of a girl's age or body type if she has a good attitude and offers the service with a smile then guys aren't going to complain because she was genuine and gave her best effortI agree to a point. Service with a smile will go far no matter what the business is, but some level of honesty is equally important. Smile all you want to, but posting that you're 25 when you're closer to 55 isn't very genuine. IMO.
I agree to a point. Service with a smile will go far no matter what the business is, but some level of honesty is equally important. Smile all you want to, but posting that you're 25 when you're closer to 55 isn't very genuine. IMO.A lot of girls out there say to themselves I have a vagina and a cell phone shit I can do that.
So there's alot to sort through out there and there is absolutely nothing wrong when met at the door to say sorry I'm going to pass for now. Or after the nice looking Asian girl has taken your money but then grandma with bad breath walks into the room to say I prefer another girl. If she can't get who you want get dressed and demand your money back they usually give it back with no problem they don't want the bad attention. With technology connecting all of us 24/7 in any city its brought everything imaginable out of the shadows. This game is 90% hustle and 10% satisfaction. My mamma told me, you better shop around!
I agree to a point. Service with a smile will go far no matter what the business is, but some level of honesty is equally important. Smile all you want to, but posting that you're 25 when you're closer to 55 isn't very genuine. IMO.The majority of the girls do post an age younger then their actual age. Yes, it's not genuine on the girl's part. It's disappointing when you have visions of a late 20 something but when the door opens reality squashes that vision. I haven't seen this lady named Lucy but I have heard that her rates are reasonable.
Richard Dixson
11-23-16, 15:56
Was in town for a ball game and had a little time. Hit 0034 on Jj list at sixforks Rd. I took the 1/2 for. 45 no table shower. I ended up adding 15 more minutes when I noticed the back walking bars for. 15. The rub was average to slightly above. She started soft but gradually worked up to good pressure. The back walking was top shelf. She really worked my lower back and but area. She got some knots out and popped my back. It was some of the best back walking I've ever had. Try it if you're a fan.
Pros: clean nice looking AMP. Good rub and great back walk. No draping.
Cons: provider not a looker and older. Diy was only ending offered. Table shower extra. Location is in busy shopping center near grocery store. No flip with a 30 minute but not really needed. Get the feeling it's an one attendant operation.
Richard Dixson
11-23-16, 16:10
Anyone have an aa rub provider recommendations? Going to be in the area Saturday afternoon. Any info on these ladies?
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/deluxe-massage-new-pic-open-late-for-holidays/28265113.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/ebony-goddess-providing-sensual-massage/30966120.
3 or 4 girls available too. When I arrived there was one pair of shoes at the door, mens boots. I placed mine there. When I left there were 4 pairs, and my girl spoke with another girl at one point at the door. Same damage as below. I got a VERY trim tallish maybe late 20's with perfectly flat tummy and long straight hair. Ok "massage" on flip she used hand gesture for what I wanted. She tried but my size made it very tough. She really did try to take it, but I never could get the train all the way in the tunnel. No rush. Bigger guys may want to opt for other activities.
Thanks guys for your reviews on this one. They were all spot on. I just returned from a visit to this place and. 6 / hour plus $ tip. Very petite young woman 5'1 102 lbs max great body very tight. She is a 7 in my books message was ok whole experience lasted 35 min but very satisfying experience. I don't know how long these places usually last but I can't wait to get back there.
Usually when I hit an AAMP, I get shorted on my time, but I have to say, when I tried this place, I got a full hour. I was impressed with that.I can echo all of these statements. Six Forks & Lynn area. Damage was. 6 house fee plus $ tip (or. 4 if that's all you want) Got about 50-52 minutes of my hour. Massage was decent, and undraped the whole time. Extremely cute and petite (5'1, 100 lbs) Chinese girl, easily a 7 in face, 8 in body. Not great english, but it was no problem. Will definitely repeat.
I come to Raleigh several times per month, and I've been waiting for something like this to come around. It's not quite as good as the agencies I've used in ATL or DC with insanely hot k-girls, but it's also at least $ less if not more, so I'll take it. Will most definitely be repeating and I hope this place stays around for a while. Seniors and reputable gents feel free to PM for more details.
Went looking to try a new place since my usual, Westgate is now closed. First tried all three on Capital. No luck.
0008 is closed for vacation.
0007 is only open during the day. Drove by at about 4:15 pm and the lady was leaving. Have driven by since then and always closed after about 4 pm.
0009 is closed down but isn't empty. Still a big curtain covering the window and it doesn't look empty. Maybe it will re-open when things cool down.
Ended up at 0033 in Knightdale. Got an average looking, slightly heavy, middle aged woman. Nothing special but not a turn off either. She gave a really good massage. On the flip she started the usual. Not a very good technique and way too much lotion. Every time I would get close she would stop to go get even more. After a while I said sorry its not going to happen and to my surprise, she said wait, went to the drawer and pulled out a cover. She put it on and proceeded with a CBJ to finish. I was very thankful but had only planned on the standard finish with the standard tip + . 10 extra if she did a really good job. She didn't look happy with the. 5 tip but didn't say any anything. I would be willing to repeat if I knew there was some younger better looking talent there.
GrillMaster
11-28-16, 20:19
Will be in N Raleigh soon. I've rtff and scoped out both massage and backpage reviews. So here's the question: You only have time for either VIP in Youngsville or the AAMP in North Hills / Six Forks. Which? PM if you want.
Will be in N Raleigh soon. I've rtff and scoped out both massage and backpage reviews. So here's the question: You only have time for either VIP in Youngsville or the AAMP in North Hills / Six Forks. Which? PM if you want.So perhaps I am not the best to speak since I have never been to either one, but I like the AMP scene and have read a lot about both over the years. I believe te AAMP is more of a sure thing for FS. VIP in Youngsville can be hit or miss. Some reports of people being turned away and others report it takes a visit of two before you get more than a handshake. From reading about the AAMP's it appears you get an open menu on the first visit. Best of luck!
Raleighassman
11-29-16, 13:02
I visit once a month. I never leave dissapointed. Need to try out this other AMP, so I can compare. Good luck.
Will be in N Raleigh soon. I've rtff and scoped out both massage and backpage reviews. So here's the question: You only have time for either VIP in Youngsville or the AAMP in North Hills / Six Forks. Which? PM if you want.
So perhaps I am not the best to speak since I have never been to either one, but I like the AMP scene and have read a lot about both over the years. I believe te AAMP is more of a sure thing for FS. VIP in Youngsville can be hit or miss. Some reports of people being turned away and others report it takes a visit of two before you get more than a handshake. From reading about the AAMP's it appears you get an open menu on the first visit. Best of luck!This is both my understanding from reading up on AAMPs and my experience thus far. First time at a normal AMP, got a handshake. First time at AAMP, got FS.
I have not been to VIP yet, but with the AAMP in and Hills, I don't know that I want to. Some reports I've seen say $$. 6 to leave extremely happy at VIP which is $ more than the and Hills AAMP.
RaleighConnect
11-29-16, 17:19
With all the AMP activity or should I say lack if due to closing I hit up the bodyrub section of BP.
Opted for 1 hr with nuru gal. Older than I thought, not great and will not repeat.
Getting desperate to get value and quality.
Anyone try for two at the same time? Wonder if it would even be worth it.
I have done many times. Can be very good or just Ok. Depends on how the girls open up with another girl there. Some of my best times were with two girls. But it is expensive. You pay extra and need to tip both of them. I have gotten a few free two girl times after I tipped them both well, the next time I was there the second girl came in with no charge, I just tipped her. If they are both open to extras and are not afraid to give them with another girl there it can be great. But if you have never done it you need to try.
Anyone try for two at the same time? Wonder if it would even be worth it.
MedJohnson
11-30-16, 18:14
I have done many times. Can be very good or just Ok. Depends on how the girls open up with another girl there. Some of my best times were with two girls. But it is expensive. You pay extra and need to tip both of them. I have gotten a few free two girl times after I tipped them both well, the next time I was there the second girl came in with no charge, I just tipped her. If they are both open to extras and are not afraid to give them with another girl there it can be great. But if you have never done it you need to try.Needs to be the right girls who know what each other does and gets tipped for it. Might be best to try the Asian places the advertise 2 girls. My last experience was great- well coordinated main event.
Med.
Visited this location on Lynn Road #5942.
Very pleasant experience nice massage left happy. Nothing new to report but just seems good consistency at this location.
Nice girl very acomadating would Reccomend.
This is just a follow up report to my earlier post. Again I'm still impressed how well the place is decorated and the cleanliness of the place. The guys that are familiar with this place probably already know this but it's for the guys that have been thinking about going to this place its just a little more info for them. Ok so I like checking out new places and getting them familiar with my face and my irresistible charm so I've been to this place 3 times. There is always the mamasan that works the front desk which I think is actually the owner. She appears to be in her early 30's dress's very nice, not sexy just very nice clothes she speaks english very well and is really attractive. She always hands the customer off to one of the other girls and when I have left she always appears to be doing some sort of book work. I think if I ever got her for a massage I wouldn't make any moves on her I would let her be the first one I just get that vibe that she's the owner. I have seen 3 different girls there. One of them left for out of town I think I remember her saying she would return Jan. I think. She was attractive in her 30's fairly tall pretty good english. The second one I saw was a little shorter I'm thinking early 40's average body not as attractive in the face english not too good or at least not as good as the first one. The third one about the same height and age as the first girl english average fairly attractive. So there always seem to be mamasan there with 2 girls working. Mamasan is very nice with a professional attitude when she greets you and says good bye. All 3 of the girls I saw gave pretty good massage's I've had better but I've had way worse I was pleased with their work. All 3 were really sweet girls with very nice personalities and the "service" is "standard" with standard tip. Massage with no tease or minimal tease to confirm, flip standard play no UTC roaming appreciated, I definitely would not expect a varied menu due to the fact they are a new operation and mamasan is there and seems to keep a short rope on her girls. My experience is if this place falls on hard times or changes owners then the menu may vary. But for now they seem to be doing ok and they are under original management. All 3 times I was there the door seem to ding, not constantly but enough to know the customers are trickling in. So to sum up my report if you want to try a different place that looks nice with average ladies that have pretty good personalities with standard service give them a shot. But if you are looking for UTC roaming, top off or more I don't think you would dig the place too much not a lot of partying to be had no matter how well the place is decorated. One hour massage is $60
This is just a follow up report to my earlier post. Throw me a bone here LOL. Numi is not on JJ's list and I can't find the name on CL or BP. Location, or am I missing something?? Thanks!
Toy Soldier
12-01-16, 08:15
What does the term AAMP refer to, as opposed to AMP?
With all the AMPs on lockdown I looked through services.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/something-different/28457806
Has anyone tried this one?
Livinitinva
12-01-16, 08:34
What does the term AAMP refer to, as opposed to AMP?If you look at the top of the page, there is an "abbreviations" link.
There you will find -.
AAMP. Apartment Asian Massage Parlor. Based in a residential apartment instead of a commercial storefront.
What does the term AAMP refer to, as opposed to AMP?A=Apartment.
TheSting24
12-01-16, 10:54
Is this a late 40's woman, very skinny, who takes you up stairs in a residence where she has a massage table in her bedroom in Durham off Miami Blvd. ?
S.
With all the AMP activity or should I say lack if due to closing I hit up the bodyrub section of BP.
Opted for 1 hr with nuru gal. Older than I thought, not great and will not repeat.
Getting desperate to get value and quality.
Also looks like zero extra. So if just looking for an actual massage you may do well.
With all the AMPs on lockdown I looked through services.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/something-different/28457806
Has anyone tried this one?
Hummer5205
12-01-16, 11:28
Throw me a bone here LOL. Numi is not on JJ's list and I can't find the name on CL or BP. Location, or am I missing something?? Thanks!http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/let-us-pamper-you-great-services-beautiful-staffs-919-628-7998-60-hr/30877346
Visited this location on Lynn Road #5942.
Very pleasant experience nice massage left happy. Nothing new to report but just seems good consistency at this location.
Nice girl very acomadating would Reccomend.Which location are you referring to? I went back to comment 5942 but didn't find anything about an AAMP on Lynn. I assume I know which one you're talking about, but I'd like to know for sure just in case.
Can't be having unknown AAMPs near me.
Is this a late 40's woman, very skinny, who takes you up stairs in a residence where she has a massage table in her bedroom in Durham off Miami Blvd. ?
S.Been there one time. She was 43 when Bill Clinton was president.
Been there done that never agAin.
Throw me a bone here LOL. Numi is not on JJ's list and I can't find the name on CL or BP. Location, or am I missing something?? Thanks!Some call the road out front Hwy 70 but the official GPS address is.
1020 S. Miami Blvd. Durham.
There is a sign at the road kinda small that says 70 ParkSide Shopping Center it has various store names on it like Bingo etc. There is a used car lot and a Exxon station across the street from the shopping center. I don't know their phone number forgot to get one of their business cards. Good luck!
Starliner63
12-01-16, 15:21
Great massage, even some back scratching thrown in. No extras.
Also looks like zero extra. So if just looking for an actual massage you may do well..
Joey Sambora
12-01-16, 17:04
Anyone remember the girl that used to be in Creedmoor giving massages? Big tits, glasses lived in a trailer. I think she had a brother that was gay that lived with her. Anyone ever have any dreams of her. She posted on CL and responded. I'm pretty sure it's the same girl.
Toy Soldier
12-01-16, 22:19
Thank you. Is there any way to tell by looking at a BP ad which ones are AAMP?
If you look at the top of the page, there is an "abbreviations" link.
There you will find -.
AAMP. Apartment Asian Massage Parlor. Based in a residential apartment instead of a commercial storefront.
Thank you. Is there any way to tell by looking at a BP ad which ones are AAMP?The BP girls list their pitch with some pics and a phone number. If you see an Asian ad with pics, phone number and NO ADDRESS you can count on it being a AAMP.
Toy Soldier
12-02-16, 08:34
Thanks. Do you mean legit pix or those same fake pix that all the other Asian ads use?
The BP girls list their pitch with some pics and a phone number. If you see an Asian ad with pics, phone number and NO ADDRESS you can count on it being a AAMP..
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