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So I went back and had a great experience. Really sweet girl, very energetic and excellent skills. If you go there please be kind. It sounded like some jerks have been thru there in the last few months and making things difficult for the rest of us.
Granted, there are all kinds of customers out there, however this AMP could help their image on this forum and their customer satisfaction by not baiting you with one girl and switching you off to another girl when you arrive or after you enter the room. This happens frequently at this place because one girl is popular and the other girls are not. This is not the customer's fault but management's fault for not putting the customer first.
You should go back and see the new talent.CiCi and MiMi were the only two girls working yesterday. I don't go enough to know if CiCi is the new talent or not. MiMi gives an ok massage but she makes the flip fun with her playful attitude which a lot of girls across town don't do. Some question her femininity because her look is different but she is no Caitlyn that's for certain. MiMi is funny so don't be so serious and interact with her when you visit.
Joe Looking
11-15-15, 20:55
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/quality-bathhouse-best-rub-down-around/20383158
Any recent visitors to QBH, Tom Cats or similar places. Looking for FS.I hate to be that guy but before asking that sort of question you need to get your post count up and build some trust. Also since you know the name of a particular girl instead of asking us how much you should say how you know her. Did you get FS and think you overpaid? Did she tell you no FS and you want to know if there is a price? Either way my experience with those places says that if you're a regular then it's possible, especially if you see them outside of work (if you're a senior member pm me and I'll give more detail). Depending on what you're looking for then it might not be worth it since being a regular means that you'll have to go a few times and that means paying the house fee plus the tip each time and possibly only getting a HJ. I also had a girl at tom cats tell me that for the few customers she does have sex with outside of work she charges over 1 k and that's for one go round. So you're probably also competing with that kind of stupidity.
If she's your girlfriend and you wonder what she's doing then brother I wish you the best of luck but make sure you want to know. FWIW if she's who I'm thinking about she did not offer me FS and with the prices she gave for her upsells I wouldn't have partaken had she offered.
I hate to be that guy but before asking that sort of question you need to get your post count up and build some trust. Also since you know the name of a particular girl instead of asking us how much you should say how you know her. Did you get FS and think you overpaid? Did she tell you no FS and you want to know if there is a price? Either way my experience with those places says that if you're a regular then it's possible, especially if you see them outside of work (if you're a senior member pm me and I'll give more detail). Depending on what you're looking for then it might not be worth it since being a regular means that you'll have to go a few times and that means paying the house fee plus the tip each time and possibly only getting a HJ. I also had a girl at tom cats tell me that for the few customers she does have sex with outside of work she charges over 1 k and that's for one go round. So you're probably also competing with that kind of stupidity.
If she's your girlfriend and you wonder what she's doing then brother I wish you the best of luck but make sure you want to know. FWIW if she's who I'm thinking about she did not offer me FS and with the prices she gave for her upsells I wouldn't have partaken had she offered.Thanks for your reply Joe. I recently joined this site and I am new to this so wanted to get some suggestions (Hopefully I can contribute more soon). I have not visited any of these places yet and got the name from previous posts in this forum. Thanks for the info. Cleared a lot of things for me!
Bonneville
11-16-15, 11:43
Seldom discussed on this board is #33 in Ktown. I have had some good to very good experiences at this location but the only complaint is that the girls are a little older and not very attractive. No big girls but not very good looking. All that being said, I have reported some of my experiences here in other posts and have been a bit of a regular for a little while. Cash seems to be king here. One interesting thing about this place is that they do not have a sign, just one of those OPEN signs in the window. You may think that when it is off they are not available but that is not necessarily true. I stopped by there quite late, way past normal operating hours, and they answered the bell. I was led right in and got good service. I have not tried this past midnight but something to keep in mind if it is too late for other places. It could be because they recognized me. As always, YMMV.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-open-new-and-professional-asian-spa-in-town-best-ever/24485806This place was very nice. I walked in first door then ring bell at second door and was greeted by a 7+ with some very nice ddds. I did table shower first with some nice flirty attention. Then for a nice hard massage with her sitting on me then some back walking. And an awsome he (best I have had at most of the places around here).
MikefromCali
11-16-15, 13:45
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sexy-indian-princess/24527566
Anyone has any info on her or I will TOFTT and report.
RubaDubdub01
11-16-15, 15:02
Its always fun to check out the new spots but being a regular client does have good benefits. I have been visiting the same spot for several years now and have a pretty good relationship with the ladies. I no longer have to ask for the extras I enjoy. Each lady knows what I like and now provides without my having to ask. They both also now ask if I would like a more in depth language lesson, again with out my asking. The point is if you want more out of you service you can't just show up on Monday and expect to do a bareback tonsil tickle on Tuesday. It takes a little time.
My $0. 02 worth.
App idea- I would never use it. To many risk variables.
New WF spot- seems like spas in WF are short lived. Wasn t there 1 last year open for less than a month?
I think all the regular players are back now. If you liked the old place you'll love the new place. Bigger rooms w / walls that go to the ceiling. Less claustrophobic and better room layout.
Seldom discussed on this board is #33 in Ktown. I have had some good to very good experiences at this location but the only complaint is that the girls are a little older and not very attractive. No big girls but not very good looking. All that being said, I have reported some of my experiences here in other posts and have been a bit of a regular for a little while. Cash seems to be king here. One interesting thing about this place is that they do not have a sign, just one of those OPEN signs in the window. You may think that when it is off they are not available but that is not necessarily true. I stopped by there quite late, way past normal operating hours, and they answered the bell. I was led right in and got good service. I have not tried this past midnight but something to keep in mind if it is too late for other places. It could be because they recognized me. As always, YMMV.I can definitely confirm that this one is indeed a sleeper on the list. Had some fun my first time there. SM's PM for details if interested.
My time seems to be coming to an end here in NC, so after months of lurking, I've decided to give a review of one of the places I visited.
After trying out many sureshots off JJ's list, I decided to try out one of the places with an L. So #44 is located just underneath a lawyer's office. You can hear the people going up and down the stairs, but it isn't enough commotion to distract you from the massage. Well not for ME anyway.
The girl is about a 6 on looks, with very thick thighs. Said she was 27, but I'd give her late 30's or early 40's; unless she's had a rough 20's. Anyway, over the past 3 weeks I've gone 3 times. First session was great. Massage was an 8. 4, HE was a 10. Asked for extras but can't really be upset she declined since it was my first time. Damages were 6 for an hr and 7 for the flip.
Second visit, made up my mind that I wouldn't get or ask for any extras. On the flip, asked if I wanted HE, I declined. Wanted convo and to build trust here. Maybe it worked? We'll see. Massage was a 9. Damages for visit came up to be 6 for hr, 2 for the tip since no extras not even HE.
Third visit, maybe 3 times a charm for extras? Came in. She took the money for an hr. I got undressed, she proceeds to work. Great massage throughout. Towards the end, there was play around the "only exit no entry" area. Things are looking up? Hmm. On the flip, ask if I'm ready. I say yes. Proceeds to work. Touching everywhere on her now. Try for extra extras. And she barks "NO". We LOL together to stave off anymore awkwardness that might have ensued.
Either way, I finish. Damages 6 for hr, 6 for flip.
Maybe because I'm AA I get no extras? I see how we're treated on the ever popular BP so. It is what it is.
Nice girl though. English isn't the best, but that doesn't stop us anyway does it? LOL YMMV, seems nice enough where extra could probably happen with the right guy.
Does anyone know of any legitimate masseuse in Raleigh who will massage undrapped? Please PM me with any suggestions. I've been to many of the AMPs in the area but want something different.
Seldom discussed on this board is #33 in Ktown. I have had some good to very good experiences at this location but the only complaint is that the girls are a little older and not very attractive. No big girls but not very good looking. All that being said, I have reported some of my experiences here in other posts and have been a bit of a regular for a little while. Cash seems to be king here. One interesting thing about this place is that they do not have a sign, just one of those OPEN signs in the window. You may think that when it is off they are not available but that is not necessarily true. I stopped by there quite late, way past normal operating hours, and they answered the bell. I was led right in and got good service. I have not tried this past midnight but something to keep in mind if it is too late for other places. It could be because they recognized me. As always, YMMV.Based on some reviews I read several months ago I checked this place out. It's been awhile I think probably back last spring had a session with the gapped tooth provider. I always pay in cash, my system is have the door fee and 100 in tip you never know what service is available at any of these places depending on their mood or their need for cash. I left that day with no cash. YMMV. So depending on what you are looking for be prepared you just might get it if you just ask.
Been going to this AMP in hopes that being a regular as well as a good tipper might open some more menu items. This seems to not be working. Not looking for FS really. But at least a BJ. I can say the service for me has been present, and the lady I have seen does give a great massage, with a fair amount of teasing. Back walk is good too. Just looking for a bit more. Any suggestions?
Harry Plopper
11-17-15, 21:10
Stopped in for a late lunch. Walked right in and paid house and got TS first. The massage was excellent. I fell asleep twice it was so good. The flip was very good. Not what I get at #18 in why-town which if on a scale from 1-10 is a 10.
This place I give a solid 7 considering service level was good just the limited menu brings my score down. I am in town for a few months and am looking forward to visiting my old stomping grounds.
Tip was. 7 on top of the house.
Stay Safe.
Harry P.
Does anyone know of any legitimate masseuse in Raleigh who will massage undrapped? Please PM me with any suggestions. I've been to many of the AMPs in the area but want something different.
17 on JJ's list would meet the requirement of a legitimate undraped massage. Though still technically an AMP, its as legitimate as it gets.
In my experience, the "H" rating is an understatement. It should be "I" for impossible. Really great massage though.
Does anyone know of any legitimate masseuse in Raleigh who will massage undrapped? Please PM me with any suggestions. I've been to many of the AMPs in the area but want something different.My favorite places to get an actual massage are #19 undrapped with Vivi great back walker or hands whichever you prefer she's the owner don't let her size fool you she has power in those hands and feet TS available $70 hour. Plus TS cost. And #8 with Lisa not exactly undrapped but a great massage this girl is strong also, one hour at this place is only $58 no TS available so you will leave smelling like massage oil. Absolutely no HE at these places but a really good massage, both places are AMP. When my lower back tightens up these 2 ladies are on my schedule.
Been going to this AMP in hopes that being a regular as well as a good tipper might open some more menu items. This seems to not be working. Not looking for FS really. But at least a BJ. I can say the service for me has been present, and the lady I have seen does give a great massage, with a fair amount of teasing. Back walk is good too. Just looking for a bit more. Any suggestions?This AMP is the cleanest, has the youngest girls and offers top notch massages but management is very particular about reviews. Check for a PM.
Its always fun to check out the new spots but being a regular client does have good benefits. I have been visiting the same spot for several years now and have a pretty good relationship with the ladies. I no longer have to ask for the extras I enjoy. Each lady knows what I like and now provides without my having to ask. They both also now ask if I would like a more in depth language lesson, again with out my asking. The point is if you want more out of you service you can't just show up on Monday and expect to do a bareback tonsil tickle on Tuesday. It takes a little time.If the girl is a) motivated by money b) trusts the customer c) doesn't worry about the boss then extras are available by being a regular customer. However, many girls are not motivated by the money to provide services beyond the HJ. I've found that most girls who only do the HJ prefer if there was no hand roaming either but they allow it more freely if you become a regular and that is all the extras that will be available.
On a side note I've found that older gentleman have more success in the extras than the younger gentleman. Do the girls feel less threaten or older gentleman have more money to give? I don't know but from the people I've chatted with it just seems that older gentleman have a higher success rate.
Celeste and Seline can be found on BRUBS on BP. I was in Raleigh yesterday on business and gave it a shot. Best trip I've ever had. I seen Saline, drop dead gorgeous. My freinds please look into these girls. I wish I lived closer.
If anyone tries this place out please post a review for the rest of us especially for those of us that would have a little further to drive. List looks, prices, menu etc. Or just compare it to some places that are already on JJ's list.
On a personal note, no matter what happens around the world we must continue living and enjoying music, socializing and everything that helps us get through each day and even web sites like this. We ALL were effected by 911 so God bless the people of Paris. Back to posting about the hobby fellas.So I was in the area yesterday with some extra time and money. Stopped by the new location in Wake Forest, just off rte 1. , about 9 miles north of #8 on jjs list. Located in a small strip mall near a printing company, hair, nail and tanning salon. I believe sign outside says foot massage, windows are shaded. Entered building to a small sitting area but need to ring door bell to enter main area. Cute, petite Korean lady answered. I guess around mid 30's wearing shorts and very friendly. Private room with walls to the ceiling and locks on the door. Paid 70.00 for the hour which I believe includes t / s but this day workers were making repairs. Massage was so so and flipped after about 30 minutes. 60.00 for h / j, 80 for nude and 120 for f / s. Lisa spoke enough English but would not negotiate. You will get enough time to pop and plenty dirty talk. The fake moans and compliments are a turnoff. As I was getting dress, Lisa (almost sure that was her name) introduced me to the other working girl. Cindy is may be a 7 or 8 but more of my type since I like girls with a little meat on them. She suggested a threesome next time. The third girl was off for the day. Type of service here is similar to VIP, a bit less money, friendlier and does not seem as cautious.
I made a visit to #34 on the list this week since I was needing some stress relief. The table shower was actually pretty good and she gave a lot of attention in the right areas. Unfortunately, the massage was maybe a 4 out of 10 which is what I was really wanting. I did still leave happy but probably won't return.
The mystery AMP shopper has been out and about. Went in as if I had never been there before, if I didn't know the girl.
Lots of rating changes. Mostly downgrades with a few upgrades. New phone # for Rose #41 and a downgrade. Some split ratings. If L\E it means limited reports but it may be easy. It a tough job but somebody needs to do it. As usual if I screwed up anything just post it, no need to PM unless your reply should be kept confidential.
So I was in the area yesterday with some extra time and money. Stopped by the new location in Wake Forest, just off rte 1. , about 9 miles north of #8 on jjs list. Located in a small strip mall near a printing company, hair, nail and tanning salon. I believe sign outside says foot massage, windows are shaded. Entered building to a small sitting area but need to ring door bell to enter main area. Cute, petite Korean lady answered. I guess around mid 30's wearing shorts and very friendly. Private room with walls to the ceiling and locks on the door. Paid 70.00 for the hour which I believe includes t / s but this day workers were making repairs. Massage was so so and flipped after about 30 minutes. 60.00 for h / j, 80 for nude and 120 for f / s. Lisa spoke enough English but would not negotiate. You will get enough time to pop and plenty dirty talk. The fake moans and compliments are a turnoff. As I was getting dress, Lisa (almost sure that was her name) introduced me to the other working girl. Cindy is may be a 7 or 8 but more of my type since I like girls with a little meat on them. She suggested a threesome next time. The third girl was off for the day. Type of service here is similar to VIP, a bit less money, friendlier and does not seem as cautious.This place more than likely will be shut down soon due to the location.
This place more than likely will be shut down soon due to the location.I'm curious as to what it is about the location of this one that is different enough from many of the others in strip centers that would be a reason for this one to close soon? What am I missing?
The mystery AMP shopper has been out and about. Went in as if I had never been there before, if I didn't know the girl.
Lots of rating changes. Mostly downgrades with a few upgrades. New phone # for Rose #41 and a downgrade. Some split ratings. If L\E it means limited reports but it may be easy. It a tough job but somebody needs to do it. As usual if I screwed up anything just post it, no need to PM unless your reply should be kept confidential.#43 is closed already? That didn't last long. I stopped by there Sunday night and noticed they weren't open. I just thought they closed early for the day.
MikefromCali
11-19-15, 16:33
First off, is #10 closed down?. Went by there mid day and its was closed, signed not lighted up, etc. Instead went to try #11, since I haven't been in a while. Kinda boring, not sensual at all, typical HE. I think we have trained these girls in a bad way. Its getting more mechanical then sensual lately and I usually have good luck. Its crazy that these are the same girl that go back to ny and do so much more. May have to do more incalls now.
I'm curious as to what it is about the location of this one that is different enough from many of the others in strip centers that would be a reason for this one to close soon? What am I missing?It's based on past history in Wake Forest of AMPs, who supposedly offered a full menu, didn't stay open very long.
MassiveForearm
11-19-15, 20:59
Hi everyone, first time post but I've been a lurker for a while.
I'm not super experienced - 4 total trips in the last several months. Three have been to #38 and each was a decent unrushed massage. They advertise a free TS with an hour, but they seem likely to 'forget' that if you don't remind them. I had Lisa (I think) twice. Decent english, 6 on looks. She plays shy and giggly. Good tease on the flip and no need for negotiation. Pretty skilled at the HJ, politely declined a request for any extras. Allowed OTC roaming but clothes were pretty tight to prevent anything more. Continued massage after HJ and was an overall good experience both times. Tipped. 4 each time.
Didin't get name of provider on 3rd visit. Younger. Maybe 30? 7 in looks. Much better massage. I could have fallen asleep easily. Lackluster on the flip. She wasn't able to finish the job even thought she was trying. I asked for other methods and was politely declined again. I didn't even finish myself. Discouraged enough that I didn't even ask for table shower. Overall good massage but disappointing otherwise. Still tipped. 4.
After the mediocre experience, I decided to try #12. Spinner, friendly, 5 on the looks. Minimal english. Back walk was okay. On the flip she went right to the job at hand but seemed to really not like it. After completion she threw a few kleenex my way and left for water and hot towel. Will not repeat as she was so clearly unhappy about what she was doing. I understand its not what I would want to do for a living, but at least try to fool me into thinking you are grossed out. Still tipped. 4 just the same.
Thanks for all the help you guys, the information on this page and JJ's list are awesome, and from what I can tell, pretty unusual around the country.
Anyone have a suggestion for an AMP where I might be able to invest a little more and pursue some extras? Happy with PM, but I understand I'm a newb. Will try to start leaving reports to contribute.
TonyAndretti1
11-19-15, 21:18
I saw other people's posts about this one and went today. I do not believe the person that wrote about this place is right. The lady said that they do not do any extra services. Not even a happy ending. She gave me a hug saying a lot of compliments at the end but that was it, nothing else. The massage was decent but I am not returning to this place again. The table shower took literally 1 minute and said finished in only 45 min when I paid for an hour. She just touched my feet when I asked her to fill up the time.
So I was in the area yesterday with some extra time and money. Stopped by the new location in Wake Forest, just off rte 1. , about 9 miles north of #8 on jjs list. Located in a small strip mall near a printing company, hair, nail and tanning salon. I believe sign outside says foot massage, windows are shaded. Entered building to a small sitting area but need to ring door bell to enter main area. Cute, petite Korean lady answered. I guess around mid 30's wearing shorts and very friendly. Private room with walls to the ceiling and locks on the door. Paid 70.00 for the hour which I believe includes t / s but this day workers were making repairs. Massage was so so and flipped after about 30 minutes. 60.00 for h / j, 80 for nude and 120 for f / s. Lisa spoke enough English but would not negotiate. You will get enough time to pop and plenty dirty talk. The fake moans and compliments are a turnoff. As I was getting dress, Lisa (almost sure that was her name) introduced me to the other working girl. Cindy is may be a 7 or 8 but more of my type since I like girls with a little meat on them. She suggested a threesome next time. The third girl was off for the day. Type of service here is similar to VIP, a bit less money, friendlier and does not seem as cautious.So which place is this? 9 miles north of #8? What?
Hi everyone, first time post but I've been a lurker for a while.
I'm not super experienced - 4 total trips in the last several months. Three have been to #38 and each was a decent unrushed massage. They advertise a free TS with an hour, but they seem likely to 'forget' that if you don't remind them. I had Lisa (I think) twice. Decent english, 6 on looks. She plays shy and giggly. Good tease on the flip and no need for negotiation. Pretty skilled at the HJ, politely declined a request for any extras. Allowed OTC roaming but clothes were pretty tight to prevent anything more. Continued massage after HJ and was an overall good experience both times. Tipped. 4 each time.
Didin't get name of provider on 3rd visit. Younger. Maybe 30? 7 in looks. Much better massage. I could have fallen asleep easily. Lackluster on the flip. She wasn't able to finish the job even thought she was trying. I asked for other methods and was politely declined again. I didn't even finish myself. Discouraged enough that I didn't even ask for table shower. Overall good massage but disappointing otherwise. Still tipped. 4.
After the mediocre experience, I decided to try #12. Spinner, friendly, 5 on the looks. Minimal english. Back walk was okay. On the flip she went right to the job at hand but seemed to really not like it. After completion she threw a few kleenex my way and left for water and hot towel. Will not repeat as she was so clearly unhappy about what she was doing. I understand its not what I would want to do for a living, but at least try to fool me into thinking you are grossed out. Still tipped. 4 just the same.
Thanks for all the help you guys, the information on this page and JJ's list are awesome, and from what I can tell, pretty unusual around the country.
Anyone have a suggestion for an AMP where I might be able to invest a little more and pursue some extras? Happy with PM, but I understand I'm a newb. Will try to start leaving reports to contribute.Lisa left at the end of May and didn't return. That was 6 months ago and of all the girls that have worked at #38 Lisa was my least favorite in looks and massage quality. The other girl you saw was Betty and she was 29. Betty was attractive but didn't want to do HJ's so she left in June after a short stay to work at a non-erotic AMP in a different state. IMO you should get out more to enjoy a relaxing massage.
I saw other people's posts about this one and went today. I do not believe the person that wrote about this place is right. The lady said that they do not do any extra services. Not even a happy ending. She gave me a hug saying a lot of compliments at the end but that was it, nothing else. The massage was decent but I am not returning to this place again. The table shower took literally 1 minute and said finished in only 45 min when I paid for an hour. She just touched my feet when I asked her to fill up the time.So what we have here is a first time poster saying he hit a place similar to VIP and a fourth time poster saying he hit a Massage Envy type place. Well slap me silly, there's no room in between these 2 post for me to figure what this place does or does not offer. I need to see some more reviews from some familiar posters or get my butt over there when I have time to know what to believe. As far as the other posters comments about this place having a death sentence, it's strange they would put a VIP type place or any AMP in Wake Forest considering they are THE ONLY AMP in sight. Why not hide the store in Raleigh or Cary with the rest. Granted VIP sits there all by its lonesome and seems to be doing just fine. Wake forest I'm sure has a Barny Fife Swat Team just dying to use that equipment on the bust of the century. I don't know guys I just need to read more reviews to know what to think. But based on the past history in Wake Forest HJ or FS these ladies better be real careful in that location.
So what we have here is a first time poster saying he hit a place similar to VIP and a fourth time poster saying he hit a Massage Envy type place. Well slap me silly, there's no room in between these 2 post for me to figure what this place does or does not offer. I need to see some more reviews from some familiar posters or get my butt over there when I have time to know what to believe. As far as the other posters comments about this place having a death sentence, it's strange they would put a VIP type place or any AMP in Wake Forest considering they are THE ONLY AMP in sight. Why not hide the store in Raleigh or Cary with the rest. Granted VIP sits there all by its lonesome and seems to be doing just fine. Wake forest I'm sure has a Barny Fife Swat Team just dying to use that equipment on the bust of the century. I don't know guys I just need to read more reviews to know what to think. But based on the past history in Wake Forest HJ or FS these ladies better be real careful in that location.Of course this is just speculation since I never visited the first one in Wake Forest, nor have I visited VIP, so I can't speak to the services available. However, the first one in Wake Forest was either right across from or in the same building or something like that as a police substation. If memory serves, there is a DMV office there as well. Very busy area, perhaps just a little too public and / or too visible. This new place is tucked away in a small strip center that has similar spa type businesses. I doubt anyone will ever see it unless you know it is there, or you are looking out of your window on the back side of the Hampton and don't have trees blocking your view, or you're a local using that street as a pass-through to get to a stoplight on Capital that drops you into the shopping center across the street. My feeling is they have a better chance of hanging around because of the lower visibility and lack of concern about the general population coming and going to the DMV office, etc. Either way, guess we'll see in time.
So what we have here is a first time poster saying he hit a place similar to VIP and a fourth time poster saying he hit a Massage Envy type place. Well slap me silly, there's no room in between these 2 post for me to figure what this place does or does not offer. I need to see some more reviews from some familiar posters or get my butt over there when I have time to know what to believe. As far as the other posters comments about this place having a death sentence, it's strange they would put a VIP type place or any AMP in Wake Forest considering they are THE ONLY AMP in sight. Why not hide the store in Raleigh or Cary with the rest. Granted VIP sits there all by its lonesome and seems to be doing just fine. Wake forest I'm sure has a Barny Fife Swat Team just dying to use that equipment on the bust of the century. I don't know guys I just need to read more reviews to know what to think. But based on the past history in Wake Forest HJ or FS these ladies better be real careful in that location.I went by here and noticed the neighbors paying close attention to the cars coming and going.
I went by here and noticed the neighbors paying close attention to the cars coming and going.Depending on the service this could be one of those places that could be a little tricky for post being put out with too many details this early in the game. This board is for info to help everyone but we don't want the post shutting them down, we and them have to be cautious. I don't know what caused the first store there to shut down if our post contributed or it was just their greed before caution. Due to this being "Wake Forest" let's be careful with details and names on the open board. Consider using PM depending on the level of service being offered. Of course who you PM is your discretion. Just my opinion that this is not just another store popping up like the ones in Raleigh and Cary, this one is more vulnerable depending on what they offer now or will offer in the future.
We know the reason for this forum is to inform the readers on the happenings at the AMPs. We all have different tastes on what is a considered a good massage, what the definition of attractive is and so on. I try not to be critical of any post because we all are different however some posts do cause the reader to wonder if there is an underlying motive of a post. Some members have motives that are self-serving. The two biggest that concerns me are those members who a) like to joke in a post because they love to see the different reactions because it's entertaining to them and b) the member who is an AMP owner or AMP friend who post lies about another AMP's available services or quality of the girls in order to see the competition suffer either from uncle or lack of potential interest. Just be careful when reading a post especially from a newbie or source that doesn't have a clear track record before accepting everything said as factual.
We know the reason for this forum is to inform the readers on the happenings at the AMPs. We all have different tastes on what is a considered a good massage, what the definition of attractive is and so on. I try not to be critical of any post because we all are different however some posts do cause the reader to wonder if there is an underlying motive of a post. Some members have motives that are self-serving. The two biggest that concerns me are those members who a) like to joke in a post because they love to see the different reactions because it's entertaining to them and b) the member who is an AMP owner or AMP friend who post lies about another AMP's available services or quality of the girls in order to see the competition suffer either from uncle or lack of potential interest. Just be careful when reading a post especially from a newbie or source that doesn't have a clear track record before accepting everything said as factual.Yep that's good advice Purple45, when I read a post from a first time poster and then read a total opposite post from a fourth time poster I tend to disregard the info from both until I hear from a more reliable source, sorry newbie's nothing personal but it's the nature of the game. When a newbie makes a post and it sticks to the wall because other post are similar then we have good info instead of a questionable post. And if others make random post that don't make sense like Purple45 indicated then there are other intentions being posted such as an owner or competitor or a dick just playing the board for his amusement.
Agree, that's why I gave it a L\E. As reported before both #10 and #43 appear closed and 43 did not answer the phone. Either new ownership coming in, Bacation, or Cary put the heat on them. I didn't think their business model matched Cary. Maybe they have wised up and are changing it.
Yep that's good advice Purple45, when I read a post from a first time poster and then read a total opposite post from a fourth time poster I tend to disregard the info from both until I hear from a more reliable source, sorry newbie's nothing personal but it's the nature of the game. When a newbie makes a post and it sticks to the wall because other post are similar then we have good info instead of a questionable post. And if others make random post that don't make sense like Purple45 indicated then there are other intentions being posted such as an owner or competitor or a dick just playing the board for his amusement.
Yep that's good advice Purple45, when I read a post from a first time poster and then read a total opposite post from a fourth time poster I tend to disregard the info from both until I hear from a more reliable source, sorry newbie's nothing personal but it's the nature of the game. When a newbie makes a post and it sticks to the wall because other post are similar then we have good info instead of a questionable post. And if others make random post that don't make sense like Purple45 indicated then there are other intentions being posted such as an owner or competitor or a dick just playing the board for his amusement.Xhip makes a good point. Probably wise to avoid going into details, especially a new place that generated completely opposite reviews within days. Something is going on. Perhaps the owner read the review and told him girls to stop it. Other theory is the 2nd reviewer fits the LEO profile and scared the girls. I have no info whether he does or does not, just a guess. I don't think there are any LEO's out there that are in my age group and that has made my first time visits to other stores easier in the past. Purple45 (post #4519) makes a point about older guys and that has been my experience. Until we can get a handle on what is going on, it is best we use discretion and perhaps just pm JJ and let him apply the appropriate rating. I am inclined to return to satisfy my curiosity but I am an occasional monger who cannot always take advantage of the extras. I value a good all over massage more than an elaborate menu. The sap rises this time of the year so a return visit is likely. Will vaguely report back. As far as the location, the owner will have a monopoly in WF if he can make it work. It will depend on whether the neighbors or public complain. Personally, I would have located in Raleigh or Cary and out service the competition.
Since your app will actually process money and have reviews, you'll have to police the shit out of those reviews. Any discussion of sexual services will be enough to get your app shut down and all equipment sized as part of pandering. Pandering will get you on the sex offender registry in NC, it's why SBR shut down. Also, you are not allowed to host pornographic material in the state of NC. Adam and Eve's web servers aren't here. This site and other sites get by because they aren't linked to setting up appointments or handling of the transactions. Even running the ads, they get around as posting from an ad-network and the ads have been moved to another site.
To me the way the app could work would be waze style. Crowd sourced posting where the AMPs are and who's working today. Anonymized traffic data of how many mongers went someplace per day and a flat star rating. It wouldn't allow for anyone to put in details / descriptions. Maybe even show high and low hours. So when you need to get your fix on and your favorite place has 10 mongers in line, you can go some place that isn't as busy. You could allow people to have ratings on quality of the place as well as a flat star rating system on the provider. Even tie in the GPS directions.
BTW, you monetize it by using the same ad-network this place uses as well as allowing one or two places per city to pay to be listed first regardless of distance.
Just some feedback for you.There would be no reviews. I'm not trying to replace this site, just add a new function. They would have ratings though. One for massage and one for body rub.
Since your app will actually process money and have reviews, you'll have to police the shit out of those reviews. Any discussion of sexual services will be enough to get your app shut down and all equipment sized as part of pandering. Pandering will get you on the sex offender registry in NC, it's why SBR shut down. Also, you are not allowed to host pornographic material in the state of NC. Adam and Eve's web servers aren't here. This site and other sites get by because they aren't linked to setting up appointments or handling of the transactions. Even running the ads, they get around as posting from an ad-network and the ads have been moved to another site.
To me the way the app could work would be waze style. Crowd sourced posting where the AMPs are and who's working today. Anonymized traffic data of how many mongers went someplace per day and a flat star rating. It wouldn't allow for anyone to put in details / descriptions. Maybe even show high and low hours. So when you need to get your fix on and your favorite place has 10 mongers in line, you can go some place that isn't as busy. You could allow people to have ratings on quality of the place as well as a flat star rating system on the provider. Even tie in the GPS directions.
BTW, you monetize it by using the same ad-network this place uses as well as allowing one or two places per city to pay to be listed first regardless of distance.
Just some feedback for you.There would be no reviews. I'm not trying to replace this site, just add a new function. They would have ratings though. One for massage and one for body rub.
Adventure123
11-20-15, 18:08
I went today and had great massage.
$70.00 with a tip.
No extras.
Happy ending was I let relaxed and.
Cash in my pocket.
No extras here.
I went today and had great massage.
$70.00 with a tip.
No extras.
Happy ending was I let relaxed and.
Cash in my pocket.
No extras here.After reading and receiving a number of reliable messages I think my suspicion about this place is confirmed. The service there depends on the provider. Sometimes a place can get labeled as legit or Possible / Easy every visit when in fact it's both of these depending on the provider. This can happen in some stores considered legit where you have to build the trust with the so called legit provider and this can be typical for a new place like this store until they figure out what they want to offer every customer especially if they are trying to learn who the customers are. I could be wrong but I've seen this before and I think that's what's going on here for now. I've seen many stores where there's one girl that won't come near the dick and another girl will go to town on it. Usually the girl that won't do anything is the owner or manager. Time will tell.
Moon Raker
11-23-15, 12:45
Hello fellas, I'll be in Durham this afternoon, and was thinking of giving 41 a visit. Does anyone know if they are CC friendly? I usually like to use a CC as continually withdrawing cash can usually present an issue for the SO who wants to know why I need cash anymore in 200-300 bunches =) So I've simply gotten a CC that I use for 'internet' purchases to solve that issue (only my name on card and electronic statements). I know some places the cash king rules, leaving me out of luck unless I want to setup another bank account. Any info appreciated on that front.
Bonneville
11-23-15, 15:03
Hello fellas, I'll be in Durham this afternoon, and was thinking of giving 41 a visit. Does anyone know if they are CC friendly? I usually like to use a CC as continually withdrawing cash can usually present an issue for the SO who wants to know why I need cash anymore in 200-300 bunches =) So I've simply gotten a CC that I use for 'internet' purchases to solve that issue (only my name on card and electronic statements). I know some places the cash king rules, leaving me out of luck unless I want to setup another bank account. Any info appreciated on that front.I have been in several locations and at least twice used a CC. At others I have seen the terminal for it as well. I don't use CC any longer for a variety of reasons but it seems common place. I have only used it for the house fee though. I have never tried to leave a tip on a CC at an AMP. My impression is that the girls are working for tips primarily and getting cash would be preferred for reporting purposes. I would think that common sense dictates that cash would be preferred in the sanctity of the therapy room between two adults.
Moon Raker
11-23-15, 16:56
I have been in several locations and at least twice used a CC. At others I have seen the terminal for it as well. I don't use CC any longer for a variety of reasons but it seems common place. I have only used it for the house fee though. I have never tried to leave a tip on a CC at an AMP. My impression is that the girls are working for tips primarily and getting cash would be preferred for reporting purposes. I would think that common sense dictates that cash would be preferred in the sanctity of the therapy room between two adults.Thank you for the info. Fwiw I've left tip on the card at atsu, holiday and eden without issues. Looks like I need a better ways funnel play money out of the account. About five years ago the financial planner spent way too much time with my wife showing how easy it is the categorize accounts etc. I've lost a bit of freedom with being able to just withdrawal 'play' money. Kinda sad since I'm the one that makes all the damn money. At any rate, thanks for the info. I may need to invest more time in creating an alternative bank account of some sort.
MythMan2010
11-24-15, 16:10
Touch of Asia was as good as its been with Mimi putting in some nice effort. She is a really fun girl. It's no VIP or Rose but a nice start to the holiday.
Southbound
11-24-15, 18:47
I made a return visit to your fair city, and thought I would drive over to #37 because I had been there before. The first time the provider was younger, voluptuous, thickerthan the average Asian. I was sure, she told me her name was Amy. So on my return, I asked for Amy. The Amy that showed up was short, with maybe size be's, so I asked again is Amy available, she said I am Amy. I said I am sorry, is the other girl available, she said yes, so in comes an older provider, with nice size the's (I think), I was impressed but, she said her name was Emily. I asked if another girl was working, she tells me the other girl was on vacation. I think I will go back to see Emily. However, my question, is there another Amy that was there in August? You can inbox me if you like. Thanks for your help. I will gladly return the favor for anyone needing info in Atlanta area. I know this is not the other board, but they don't have your list.
Adventure123
11-24-15, 19:48
What's this #41 like.
Do they have good massage and or any extras.
Thanks.
Adventure123.
Hello fellas, I'll be in Durham this afternoon, and was thinking of giving 41 a visit. Does anyone know if they are CC friendly? I usually like to use a CC as continually withdrawing cash can usually present an issue for the SO who wants to know why I need cash anymore in 200-300 bunches =) So I've simply gotten a CC that I use for 'internet' purchases to solve that issue (only my name on card and electronic statements). I know some places the cash king rules, leaving me out of luck unless I want to setup another bank account. Any info appreciated on that front.No they are not cc friendly, at least the last two times I went they weren't.
Once in a while you meet a girl who sparks an interest beyond the normal customer and provider relationship. Some 15 months ago I met such a girl at one of the local AMP's and with time the relationship slowly transformed into a friendship. We often meet girls who strike an external physical cord but rarely do you meet a girl who strikes the internal emotional cord to the point that you care. Well, without being too sentimental she is leaving Cary tonight and the AMP life behind to begin her new life. You just never know how things will turn out sometimes if you take the time and get to know someone. Even though no extras was achieved; I can truly say that I wouldn't trade all the extras that could have been for the friendship that was formed instead. IMO some things are more rewarding.
To relax with a massage is good but to relax with a friend is better, however to have both is paradise, Purple45.
I've updated the map using JimJim's latest list. Enjoy.
http://batchgeo.com/map/77b62e745fbdbc6daf3a47d09797297c
Hello fellas, I'll be in Durham this afternoon, and was thinking of giving 41 a visit. Does anyone know if they are CC friendly? I usually like to use a CC as continually withdrawing cash can usually present an issue for the SO who wants to know why I need cash anymore in 200-300 bunches =) So I've simply gotten a CC that I use for 'internet' purchases to solve that issue (only my name on card and electronic statements). I know some places the cash king rules, leaving me out of luck unless I want to setup another bank account. Any info appreciated on that front.Yeah 41 for sure doesn't do CC. In Durham I have had Remedy and Sr 54 do CC.
I Have the same issue with SO. So I do a small amounts of cash backs when I do grocery. Maybe you can try that. It also spaces out your visits to the AMPs.
JB.
Adventure123
11-25-15, 17:14
Once in a while you meet a girl who sparks an interest beyond the normal customer and provider relationship. Some 15 months ago I met such a girl at one of the local AMP's and with time the relationship slowly transformed into a friendship. We often meet girls who strike an external physical cord but rarely do you meet a girl who strikes the internal emotional cord to the point that you care. Well, without being too sentimental she is leaving Cary tonight and the AMP life behind to begin her new life. You just never know how things will turn out sometimes if you take the time and get to know someone. Even though no extras was achieved; I can truly say that I wouldn't trade all the extras that could have been for the friendship that was formed instead. IMO some things are more rewarding.
To relax with a massage is good but to relax with a friend is better, however to have both is paradise, Purple45.Sounds like true friends P45.
I'm sure she who ever she is will do.
Great in the real world.
RufoReal6371
11-25-15, 23:36
Yes there used to be a Amy who was much younger than the other two ladies at #37 and I haven't seen her there in months.
I made a return visit to your fair city, and thought I would drive over to #37 because I had been there before. The first time the provider was younger, voluptuous, thickerthan the average Asian. I was sure, she told me her name was Amy. So on my return, I asked for Amy. The Amy that showed up was short, with maybe size be's, so I asked again is Amy available, she said I am Amy. I said I am sorry, is the other girl available, she said yes, so in comes an older provider, with nice size the's (I think), I was impressed but, she said her name was Emily. I asked if another girl was working, she tells me the other girl was on vacation. I think I will go back to see Emily. However, my question, is there another Amy that was there in August? You can inbox me if you like. Thanks for your help. I will gladly return the favor for anyone needing info in Atlanta area. I know this is not the other board, but they don't have your list.
Once in a while you meet a girl who sparks an interest beyond the normal customer and provider relationship. Some 15 months ago I met such a girl at one of the local AMP's and with time the relationship slowly transformed into a friendship. We often meet girls who strike an external physical cord but rarely do you meet a girl who strikes the internal emotional cord to the point that you care. Well, without being too sentimental she is leaving Cary tonight and the AMP life behind to begin her new life. You just never know how things will turn out sometimes if you take the time and get to know someone. Even though no extras was achieved; I can truly say that I wouldn't trade all the extras that could have been for the friendship that was formed instead. IMO some things are more rewarding.
To relax with a massage is good but to relax with a friend is better, however to have both is paradise, Purple45.It's true an actual relationship can happen in these places IF she speaks English. I've seen a stupid number of these ladies over the years and only 3 have ever got my attention as far as being I could actually have something special with her maybe even help her get out of this business if I had chosen to go down that path. I will not mention their names or where they are now but one was at Atsu in Cary one was in Apex NC and the other was at a store in Cary that closed about 3 years ago which I still have contact with. All 3 of these girls had great smiles eye contact spoke English well educated and were very honest about their ambitions to live in America. Don't worry you can't bullshit a bullshitter I'm fully aware of the marry for the green card thing, I can multitask think with my little and big head at the same time LOL. I got to know each one pretty good and I will admit that every visit did not involve any HE procedure due to our attraction toward each other odd as that sounds. I think my respect mode kicked in and I was not in the frame of mind to go that route. I felt and she felt awkward so we just agreed massage only and that relaxed both of us. We became more like friends and yes I could tell they wanted it to go further by giving me their phone numbers. But I back tracked at that point at least with 2 of them, I'm a pretty good judge of character and can tell if this is a girl I would like to know better and so far these are the only 3 that had passed my requirements. I can tell you there are 4 kinds of Asian girls working in theses places 1. Like the 3 that I just described they want more out of life here than working in these places they are actually decent girls that would be a good catch for a guy looking for a relationship they are smart have strong family values and Asian women that are in love are very devoted to their man with everything sex, cleaning, cooking, money, family etc.
2. The girl that wants to work in this business for the cash but wants an American boyfriend that will bang her on a regular basis take her to the mall, bank and market and not have an issue with her touching other dicks. 3. The HJ, fucking sucking machine that makes as much as she can whenever wherever she can. 4. The one that ask WTF am I doing here? But P45 is absolutely right once in awhile if one if these girls has the right smile or look in her eye and the conversation connects it has nothing to do with a HE it's now all about a man and a woman attracted toward each other because they have thoughts that are similar.
Have a safe and happy thanksgiving everybody I'll see you at the Malls Friday woohoo!!
Adventure123
11-26-15, 18:33
Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving.
Going to Chester VA in the morning.
Hope to try out a new AMP there.
Southbound
11-27-15, 02:50
Yes there used to be a Amy who was much younger than the other two ladies at #37 and I haven't seen her there in months.Thanks, I should have gone back earlier.
I have to agree with everyone Mimi is by far the best. I can't even go into detail why but most of you guys know by what I've read. It was really cute when she purposed to me in front of everyone when I was leaving. I really think she wanted to leave with me. If I could explain it to my wife and she would accept it I would move her in tomorrow. LOL.
TheAmazing
11-28-15, 12:03
I've updated the map using JimJim's latest list. Enjoy.
http://batchgeo.com/map/77b62e745fbdbc6daf3a47d09797297cThis makes JJs list even easier to use -- nice work.
Tried out $47 on my way through Burlington today. I think the girls name was Anna.
Table shower was short but thorough. Massage was better than average. After the flip, she asked about HE. I tried to talk her into more, but she was firm that was the only thing on the menu. She did unhook her bra under her shirt for me to get a handful, and the HE was well done.
Even though I didn't get what I was after, the experience turned out much better than a thought as she was pretty businesslike at the start. I will repeat if all I want is a good massage and HE, didn't get the impression that any more was available.
This makes JJs list even easier to use -- nice work.Thank you for your hard work!
RubaDubdub01
11-30-15, 01:17
Love a good tit job-which location has the best assets to help me out? Rose, TW or Quality Bath?
Thanks in advance.
Got home from visiting family today and there was an advertisement from the neighborhood AMP, in Cary. I'm a little surprised to see them doing door to door advertising.
Whatr the best place to get more than just the same ol tug? Pms welcome.
Got home from visiting family today and there was an advertisement from the neighborhood AMP, in Cary. I'm a little surprised to see them doing door to door advertising.If your neighbors got the same thing it's a new form of advertisement probably an American owner Chinese keep a lower profile. If you are the only one that got the card you probably used a CC to pay and you are in an American owners Data base. There are some talented people out there with the key board that can find just about any info they want all they need is the right bone to chew on a name a phone number a credit card number etc. No big deal for some but could be an issue for others to explain to their better half.
Spoon Sports83
11-30-15, 11:52
So I was board lst night and decided to check out a local AMP in knightdale.
When I got there it was a clean place. I was greeted by a older Asian woman who took me straight to a room. Once in the room she asked if I was there for an hour or hh. Since it was my first time I decided to do the hh. She took payment and told me to get comfortable and on the table. She returned and proceeded with a pretty good massage. She worked my back really good when she sat on me. On the flip she smiled and just looked down and said yes or no. LOL it made me laugh the way she did it. But I said yes and she asked how much tip. I gave her 40 and I was able to feel around over her dress only but I got her to take her bra off and let them out. HE was good she worked on it greatly.
So over all:
Super clean.
Great location.
Great massage.
Great price.
Nice workers.
I will repeat.
Love a good tit job-which location has the best assets to help me out? Rose, TW or Quality Bath?
Thanks in advance.Very curious about the answer to this as well. Recently moved here from Fville and had a good appointment regularly for this.
Be safe.
- fish.
I just drove by:
Number 23) Suncity Spas Massage 2891 Jones Franklin Road, Raleigh NC 919-522-0497 Outcall 347-925-2703 and there is a "For Rent" sign on the door. Another one bites the dust.
Nattie.
JohnJohn1972
11-30-15, 18:11
Yep that's good advice Purple45, when I read a post from a first time poster and then read a total opposite post from a fourth time poster I tend to disregard the info from both until I hear from a more reliable source, sorry newbie's nothing personal but it's the nature of the game. When a newbie makes a post and it sticks to the wall because other post are similar then we have good info instead of a questionable post. And if others make random post that don't make sense like Purple45 indicated then there are other intentions being posted such as an owner or competitor or a dick just playing the board for his amusement.Tried Rainbow last week. The report that it is more smiliar to VIP is accurate. I wanted to warn everyone that there is a lady that works in the strip mall watching who goes in and comes out. She is not happy with the new neighbor and left a note on my truck expressing her "concerns and that she is watching!
I believe she is doing all she can to have them shut down.
I just drove by:
Number 23) Suncity Spas Massage 2891 Jones Franklin Road, Raleigh NC 919-522-0497 Outcall 347-925-2703 and there is a "For Rent" sign on the door. Another one bites the dust.
Nattie.Not surprised, This was Sofia's place, I bumped into her back earlier this summer while shopping and she said she was going to make a change. She ran a pretty tight ship with her girls if you got a HE from one of them it better be kept quiet or she would lay down the hammer on the girl. I met Sofia at her old place Green Spa on Jones Franklin several years ago and she would always tell me with a laugh you be a good customer as I'm walking in the room with her girl. Of course I'm always a good customer, I always enjoyed Green Spa but based on some bad reviews and neighbor complaints it was doomed. Not sure what her plans are now or if a new buyer will scoop up this place. Location meh.
Whatr the best place to get more than just the same ol tug? Pms welcome.Check JJ's list http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?13592-JJ-s-List but it's still YMMV depending on how management feels the day you visit and which girl you see.
Tried Rainbow last week. The report that it is more smiliar to VIP is accurate. I wanted to warn everyone that there is a lady that works in the strip mall watching who goes in and comes out. She is not happy with the new neighbor and left a note on my truck expressing her "concerns and that she is watching!
I believe she is doing all she can to have them shut down.The reality and legal aspect is she can watch all she wants too, we have talked here before about this the police watching from their cars in the parking lot. Are we suppose to feel threatened? It is not illegal to enter a massage store then exit and get in your car and leave. WTF is the note for? Technically she is the one breaking the law by putting a note on your vehicle this is the same as soliciting which is illigal in 99.9% of the shopping malls and plazas around here. If I ever go there and she puts a note on my car I will inform her I have her note with her finger prints on it and I consider it harassment and it will be turned over to the plaza management from my lawyer. ALL business's paying rent there are legit or they would not have been allowed to sign a lease. She would not want customers from other business's putting notes on her customers cars would she? Last I checked this is still a free country unless people want to stick their noses where it doesn't belong or force their opinions or so call values on others turf. This is not to debate morals or values but hey lady it's my choice to shop here not yours! Don't be intimidated at this location or any other location if there's ever a problem it will be between a provider and a undercover officer not a nosy Beeotch! My 2 cents.
ParisNights
12-01-15, 09:05
Stopped by on a Sunday night. Girls name was Sury / Sorry / Sory. Something like that.
Looks 6. Attitude 6. Massage (back rub) 5.
A little roaming up top, that's about it. Left happy but nothing special. . 7 + . 6 out the door for an hour.
With all the other places on JJ's list to try, I would not repeat.
ParisNights
12-01-15, 09:07
Nicely done. Great map! Thank you sir!
I've updated the map using JimJim's latest list. Enjoy.
http://batchgeo.com/map/77b62e745fbdbc6daf3a47d09797297c
So all you need to do is park over on the side by the sign place. Then walk over and she will never see you.
The reality and legal aspect is she can watch all she wants too, we have talked here before about this the police watching from their cars in the parking lot. Are we suppose to feel threatened? It is not illegal to enter a massage store then exit and get in your car and leave. WTF is the note for? Technically she is the one breaking the law by putting a note on your vehicle this is the same as soliciting which is illigal in 99.9% of the shopping malls and plazas around here. If I ever go there and she puts a note on my car I will inform her I have her note with her finger prints on it and I consider it harassment and it will be turned over to the plaza management from my lawyer. ALL business's paying rent there are legit or they would not have been allowed to sign a lease. She would not want customers from other business's putting notes on her customers cars would she? Last I checked this is still a free country unless people want to stick their noses where it doesn't belong or force their opinions or so call values on others turf. This is not to debate morals or values but hey lady it's my choice to shop here not yours! Don't be intimidated at this location or any other location if there's ever a problem it will be between a provider and a undercover officer not a nosy Beeotch! My 2 cents.
Was there before the upgrades. Wondering what the fees are for the hh and hr? Also trying to figure out what "worked on it greatly" means. LOL. Pm is welcome. Thanks!
So I was board lst night and decided to check out a local AMP in knightdale.
When I got there it was a clean place. I was greeted by a older Asian woman who took me straight to a room. Once in the room she asked if I was there for an hour or hh. Since it was my first time I decided to do the hh. She took payment and told me to get comfortable and on the table. She returned and proceeded with a pretty good massage. She worked my back really good when she sat on me. On the flip she smiled and just looked down and said yes or no. LOL it made me laugh the way she did it. But I said yes and she asked how much tip. I gave her 40 and I was able to feel around over her dress only but I got her to take her bra off and let them out. HE was good she worked on it greatly.
So over all:
Super clean.
Great location.
Great massage.
Great price.
Nice workers.
I will repeat.
The reality and legal aspect is she can watch all she wants too, we have talked here before about this the police watching from their cars in the parking lot. Are we suppose to feel threatened? It is not illegal to enter a massage store then exit and get in your car and leave. WTF is the note for? Technically she is the one breaking the law by putting a note on your vehicle this is the same as soliciting which is illigal in 99.9% of the shopping malls and plazas around here. If I ever go there and she puts a note on my car I will inform her I have her note with her finger prints on it and I consider it harassment and it will be turned over to the plaza management from my lawyer. ALL business's paying rent there are legit or they would not have been allowed to sign a lease. She would not want customers from other business's putting notes on her customers cars would she? Last I checked this is still a free country unless people want to stick their noses where it doesn't belong or force their opinions or so call values on others turf. This is not to debate morals or values but hey lady it's my choice to shop here not yours! Don't be intimidated at this location or any other location if there's ever a problem it will be between a provider and a undercover officer not a nosy Beeotch! My 2 cents.I think many of us are not so worried about possible legal problems from this situation as much as we worried it might somehow get back to friends and family. Wonder what kind of business this lady runs?
JohnJohn1972
12-01-15, 10:27
I think many of us are not so worried about possible legal problems from this situation as much as we worried it might somehow get back to friends and family. Wonder what kind of business this lady runs?The note stressed me out and I only wanted to alert everyone to what is going on. The concern for me is that it is easy to smear someones name. Which may not be legal, but once it is out it can lead to issues with someones personal life.
This board has provided a lot of information and advice that I appreciate. This was odd enough that I wanted to share it with the group.
Thanks!
DirtyOldPerv
12-01-15, 16:49
Recently dropped into the new spa on Hampton Way. Per the reviews I read here.
Nice pretty, 30's girl, good English, led me into a room, I caressed her ass on the way, she had no issues with hands all over her. I pulled out the boobs. Huge long nipples, which I love. Allowed sucking. Happy ending and agreed to an expanded menu next visit. I will repeat. Can't see this place staying open long. Although the entire block is probably owned by a Chinese guy. So maybe they'll be able to weather the storm.I'm heading over to Wake Forest later this week. What was her name?
Just go and find out.
I'm heading over to Wake Forest later this week. What was her name?
I'm heading over to Wake Forest later this week. What was her name?Is this your first outing? If not, share some of your other experiences with us. If it is, TOFTT and report back. Oh, and if your the owner and want to know which one, just look for the long nipples! lol
You are not alone. To our new, uneducated member, please learn some acronyms: RTFF, TOFTT, etc. You just started off in one of the worst ways to introduce yourself to this forum.
Just go and find out.
I'm heading over to Wake Forest later this week. What was her name?It's a legit question, it's a LE question, it's a owner question, it's a newbie question, problem is with this place being NEW! And in WAKE FOREST and With some shit head watching customers you are asking a question that should probably be asked in PM that a senior member would never give you the answer being your cherry has not been popped on the board yet. Not trying to sound like a dick but it's the rules contribute and you shall receive. Name? Hummmm try Lucy Wendy Cici Coco Lisa Linda Cindy Mary Anna Amy it doesn't matter take JJ's advice. I've been schooled in the past about posting names too freely and IF this store has a varied menu keep the names and specific details to a minimum. Who am I to say what should be posted But it is only my opinion we should share info but we don't want to give out all the meat and potatoes on the open board and help shut the place down if it is supplying good service in a tricky location to be doing business. This place ain't like the Raleigh and Cary stores this place is sitting all by its lonesome with eyes and ears watching called LE. Wake Forest is a small community ain't too much to talk about around the dinner table and at church except what's happeng in town remember the lady watching the parking lot I bet her lips are flapping more than a crack ***** at a tractor pull convention. He'll look at all the advertisement we have given the place just this week LOL, Careful with the info on this one fellas.
Adventure123
12-02-15, 10:03
The reality and legal aspect is she can watch all she wants too, we have talked here before about this the police watching from their cars in the parking lot. Are we suppose to feel threatened? It is not illegal to enter a massage store then exit and get in your car and leave. WTF is the note for? Technically she is the one breaking the law by putting a note on your vehicle this is the same as soliciting which is illigal in 99.9% of the shopping malls and plazas around here. If I ever go there and she puts a note on my car I will inform her I have her note with her finger prints on it and I consider it harassment and it will be turned over to the plaza management from my lawyer. ALL business's paying rent there are legit or they would not have been allowed to sign a lease. She would not want customers from other business's putting notes on her customers cars would she? Last I checked this is still a free country unless people want to stick their noses where it doesn't belong or force their opinions or so call values on others turf. This is not to debate morals or values but hey lady it's my choice to shop here not yours! Don't be intimidated at this location or any other location if there's ever a problem it will be between a provider and a undercover officer not a nosy Beeotch! My 2 cents.Well said XHippie.
When I go to an AMP I go for a massage so therefore I'm not looking around to see who is watching.
And if any extras were provided then good for me and the provider because we are adults.
Besides I would never post on open board my best keep secret.
So a nice hot oil massage will do wonders on a raining day and for the on lookers stay on the porch.
This isn't a "massage parlor" post so admin's feel free to move it. But from time to time a request comes across the boards from someone looking for a nuru massage. Here is one that popped up on CL this morning. I didn't see it in the BP bodyrubs section.
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cas/5341557981.html
If I remember correctly, she has been reviewed on this board.
JakeLaMotta69
12-02-15, 13:04
Visited Green Apple this morning and left surprisingly happy. Please PM me for more details.
This isn't a "massage parlor" post so admin's feel free to move it. But from time to time a request comes across the boards from someone looking for a nuru massage. Here is one that popped up on CL this morning. I didn't see it in the BP bodyrubs section.
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cas/5341557981.html
If I remember correctly, she has been reviewed on this board.It's gone.
It's gone.No worries, I had a little free time so I dug a little deeper on BP. It's this lady:
http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/elle-play-date-in-princeton/24596559
No worries, I had a little free time so I dug a little deeper on BP. It's this lady:
http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/elle-play-date-in-princeton/24596559For the extra work, you're not expecting a BJ, are you? LOL But seriously, she looks cute enough. One of her ads says something about car play in Princeton.
No worries, I had a little free time so I dug a little deeper on BP. It's this lady:
http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/elle-play-date-in-princeton/24596559Here's a review from the oThER site: I don't know how to say this but here goes. 1st she was late, (way late) no call no text. Then she stole from me!! Avoid!!
Emeralddragon6
12-02-15, 18:21
Is there a senior member that can pm me please?
Is there a senior member that can pm me please?Check your inbox.
Emeralddragon6
12-02-15, 20:19
Check your inbox.Inbox is full.
I nor any other member can discourage anyone from posting what they want. However, we who contribute to this forum, especially the SM, need to police ourselves and consider the content of our posts. We know the climate here in the greater Raleigh area and struggles the AMP's face from uncle in certain communities. VIP Spa seems to be the only exception where a full menu is allowed but anywhere else the girl who offers more than the standard service can face difficulties from her co-workers, her boss or worse her uncle. IMO it's best to save names and some services to PM's. Thank-you for your consideration.
I have read some pretty good posts about one girl there. Thinking of trying to make an appointment with her. Any one have advise for this spot? As always PM is welcome. Thank you.
I have read some pretty good posts about one girl there. Thinking of trying to make an appointment with her. Any one have advise for this spot? As always PM is welcome. Thank you.This place over books so if you show and she is already busy don't be surprised. If another customer arrives and requests her during your appointment she will leave and talk to the customer and if the customer insists on seeing her then she will ask you if you don't mind if another girl finishes the appointment. If you booked then it's first come first, served so hold your ground. Both of these have happened to me and others but other than that the girl has personality, is funny and the flip is standard but entertaining.
Having an Appointment there is just like not having an appointment. Showing up and asking for any girl that you want works the same. If they are not busy you will/may get her.
This place over books so if you show and she is already busy don't be surprised. If another customer arrives and requests her during your appointment she will leave and talk to the customer and if the customer insists on seeing her then she will ask you if you don't mind if another girl finishes the appointment. If you booked then it's first come first, served so hold your ground. Both of these have happened to me and others but other than that the girl has personality, is funny and the flip is standard but entertaining.
Livinitinva
12-03-15, 16:58
#1 - The Rate is not in the ad. Is 70/ hr correct? I know that 60 or 70 tends to be the rate.
#2 - Is there now a working TS that is included? The one post was not clear and not sure about that post either.
#3 - Do you get your full hour?
#4 - What was the quality of your massage. If my masseuse cannot work my actual neck, shoulders, back, etc. Really well. Then I will be disappointed.
How does the actual massage compare to Knightdale? Do they give the full-time there?
Spoon Sports83
12-03-15, 21:20
Was there before the upgrades. Wondering what the fees are for the hh and hr? Also trying to figure out what "worked on it greatly" means. LOL. Pm is welcome. Thanks!Hh 45.
H 65 if I am not mistaken.
'worked on it greatly' LOL she knows how to stroke it really good LOL she was pretty good with her hands.
70 is correct.
TS works just fine and is included.
I have gotten full or even more than an hour.
You may be disappointed, the skills of the two I have seen were not as good as other AMP's but I still went back.
From my recollection Knightdale was about the same although I do not know the rates.
#1 - The Rate is not in the ad. Is 70/ hr correct? I know that 60 or 70 tends to be the rate.
#2 - Is there now a working TS that is included? The one post was not clear and not sure about that post either.
#3 - Do you get your full hour?
#4 - What was the quality of your massage. If my masseuse cannot work my actual neck, shoulders, back, etc. Really well. Then I will be disappointed.
How does the actual massage compare to Knightdale? Do they give the full-time there?
Bonneville
12-04-15, 09:18
70 is correct.
From my recollection Knightdale was about the same although I do not know the rates.Knightdale is 45 hh, 65 h, above the standard tip of. 4 which gets you ovc roaming the tip generally goes up in increments of. 2 for additional access or services, I. E. . 6 under the top, etc.
On the Charlotte Massage forum there are posts about Papaya and Osaka Spas have apparently closed this week due to LE activity. Charlotte for years use to have several spas which featured younger girls with full menus but some have felt the heat from uncle in recent days.
Joe Looking
12-04-15, 23:01
The note stressed me out and I only wanted to alert everyone to what is going on. The concern for me is that it is easy to smear someones name. Which may not be legal, but once it is out it can lead to issues with someones personal life.
This board has provided a lot of information and advice that I appreciate. This was odd enough that I wanted to share it with the group.
Thanks!That's a fair point especially since you're supposed to be able to find out information on people from their license plate alone. All that said, from her perspective there should be no difference between you going into and AMP and a Massage Envy. I think the latest AMPs close around 10 (which isn't that late) and I doubt the customers are loud or obnoxious nor would I imagine that having an AMP in the same plaza would scare off customers for her. Most have dark windows and very few have massage in bold letters.
On the Charlotte Massage forum there are posts about Papaya and Osaka Spas have apparently closed this week due to LE activity. Charlotte for years use to have several spas which featured younger girls with full menus but some have felt the heat from uncle in recent days.Thanks for the info P45, I usually don't check out their board unless I'm going to be near. Charlotte is a fun place to visit it's like having a rotation of VIP spas at your disposal. It's no secret on the other site it list their services rates and names so it's like shooting fish in a barrel if LE wants to harass them. Don't get me wrong teachers, fireman, LE and most of all our military are the most important people in our community but for God sakes LE please spend our tax money catching the real bad guys doing harm in our communities these ladies are only doing what the American mans little head is instigating. It's kinda like this all over the country in most towns no matter what state it settles down for a stretch and its business as usual then someone on a board or committee somewhere says we have to clean this shit up NOW! Then round and round it goes. Some places after a while just throw their hands up and say fuck it let them do what they want kinda like Los Angeles a one hour massage there cost $25 and with another $75 tip you can leave with your sack looking like a dried up prune. I was in San Gabriel for 2 weeks there were as many Parlors there as we have CVS stores I didn't go to a spa when I got home for a month I had no sperm left I didn't want to see a naked Asian girl for a long time I needed rest Oh the stress I endured at really good prices I might add! Oh sorry getting back to Chalotte I think if there's trouble it will pass and I'm sure LE looks at the Charlotte USASG board and RMap board as much as we do which brings me back to my recent statement in another post if a place around here is offering the good stuff just remember LE is paying attention if the ladies are taking care of us we need to take care of them, corny but true, loose lips sink ships. Richard Pryer was a genius his Mudbone Character once said (you only get two pieces of pussy in your whole life your first and your last, all that stuff in between well that's just gravy) lets protect our precious gravy around these parts fellas. Have a great weekend ya'll.
Noticed the ad below today. Looks like #43 may be back in business. I know some folks had complained of poor service but that was not my experience here. Wondering if anyone knows the backstory. I may have to venture out soon.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-asian-massage-free-table-shower-919-468-1551/25047162
I have read some pretty good posts about one girl there. Thinking of trying to make an appointment with her. Any one have advise for this spot? As always PM is welcome. Thank you.So I went to see and experience this one. I tried to call but got a busy signal every time so just tried my luck. I walked in and was greeted at the counter, I asked to see "X" (the popular one). It just so happens that she is who greeted me at the counter. So far I was doing good. She was very happy and smiled as I explained how my friends suggested I see her. I paid the house fee and got ready. TS was nothing special, and after drying my back she tossed me the towel and said "you do front". Massage: I am no connoisseur but this was nothing special IMO. Now to be fair, she did say she had a cold, and was not feeling well. She was great to talk to, and very open. The towel stayed in place for all but the last few min of the pre flip time. The FLIP: this is the real reason I even go to any AMP to be honest. So, during the massage the was zero teasing. Then we flip, and she just gives a cute look and gives things a little attention. The steps back and shows me one of the best bodies I have yet to see on an AMP provider. IMO pure perfection (my body type). I was allowed over allowed over covered touch, and mostly the bottom. She change the lighting dance a little bit then start again. I could tell she had some tricks up her sleeve, but maybe her being sick had her holding back. Or maybe we just did not click. I ended up having to go diy to finish (a first for me). So, for me I list this one in my bottom 3. I am not sure I would go back. Maybe now that she knows me, things would be better? I will say her body is outstanding! But the experience as a whole, was far from memorable for me. SM's may pm with any questions.
Looking for advice on who to see at this location. If you have info please pm me.
RufoReal6371
12-05-15, 15:53
Noticed the ad below today. Looks like #43 may be back in business. I know some folks had complained of poor service but that was not my experience here. Wondering if anyone knows the backstory. I may have to venture out soon.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-asian-massage-free-table-shower-919-468-1551/25047162I had dinner at Abbey Road next door and their light was on. Didn't stop in but they were definitely open.
I had dinner at Abbey Road next door and their light was on. Didn't stop in but they were definitely open.I have tried this location, 2 x. Both occasions, were to say the least, horrible. Table shower was broken, was rushed, massage quality was not good.
Has anyone seen this masseuse?
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/m-a-s-s-a-g-e/22610895
Starliner63
12-06-15, 13:18
Same for me, rushed and although happy, not great. Shower was out of order when I went.
I had dinner at Abbey Road next door and their light was on. Didn't stop in but they were definitely open.
Looking for advice on who to see at this location. If you have info please pm me.You may find some answers really close to this post.
Has anyone seen this masseuse?
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/m-a-s-s-a-g-e/22610895She advertises as a 30 year old, single, multi-ethnic lady. She has advertised mostly in Raleigh and Wilmington but once in Texas just 13 days ago.
http://www.eroticpostreviews.com/p/973600?modal=8443537&i=true#modal-tab.
Randomtoast
12-06-15, 18:13
Made a trip to VIP for my first trip. 80 at the door for the H, asked if it was my first time, and I replied "yes". Got a cute girl maybe 5'8 and in her late 20's / early 30's. A little chubby, but also in the right places.
Table shower was nothing special, she laughed a few times to try and lighten the mood. Started on the back with a light massage, very disappointing, but we typically don't go just for the massage.
Spent maybe 20 minutes on the legs, no enthusiasm. Clearly she didn't want to be there. No tease prior to the flip, and she motioned for a hand job. I ask if there were extras and she shrugged and declined. She did pull out a single boob LOL, but wasn't comfortable with OTC roaming. Decent ending, but overall disappointed. I know it was the first time and later visits have the potential to improve, but with the price and the long drive I don't feel it is worth it. Was rushed out in about 35 minutes from arrival.
RT.
MD Bellamy
12-06-15, 22:04
Made a trip to VIP for my first trip. 80 at the door for the H, asked if it was my first time, and I replied "yes". Got a cute girl maybe 5'8 and in her late 20's / early 30's. A little chubby, but also in the right places.
Table shower was nothing special, she laughed a few times to try and lighten the mood. Started on the back with a light massage, very disappointing, but we typically don't go just for the massage.
Spent maybe 20 minutes on the legs, no enthusiasm. Clearly she didn't want to be there. No tease prior to the flip, and she motioned for a hand job. I ask if there were extras and she shrugged and declined. She did pull out a single boob LOL, but wasn't comfortable with OTC roaming. Decent ending, but overall disappointed. I know it was the first time and later visits have the potential to improve, but with the price and the long drive I don't feel it is worth it. Was rushed out in about 35 minutes from arrival.
RT.You didn't mention a tip for services rendered, or as an inducement for additional services. Did she seem open to further discussion, or was it just "No"? I've not visited in a long time so it would be useful to know current conditions from one who has TOFTT!
Randomtoast
12-06-15, 22:15
You didn't mention a tip for services rendered, or as an inducement for additional services. Did she seem open to further discussion, or was it just "No"? I've not visited in a long time so it would be useful to know current conditions from one who has TOFTT!I tipped. 6, she never asked or negotiated. When I asked for extra services, and said I could pay, she again just shrugged and played dumb. Figured it was because it was my first time. Probably could have been a little more assertive and gotten more, but I was barely in the mood after her lack of enthusiasm. Hope that helps!
Made a trip to VIP for my first trip. 80 at the door for the H, asked if it was my first time, and I replied "yes". Got a cute girl maybe 5'8 and in her late 20's / early 30's. A little chubby, but also in the right places.
Table shower was nothing special, she laughed a few times to try and lighten the mood. Started on the back with a light massage, very disappointing, but we typically don't go just for the massage.
Spent maybe 20 minutes on the legs, no enthusiasm. Clearly she didn't want to be there. No tease prior to the flip, and she motioned for a hand job. I ask if there were extras and she shrugged and declined. She did pull out a single boob LOL, but wasn't comfortable with OTC roaming. Decent ending, but overall disappointed. I know it was the first time and later visits have the potential to improve, but with the price and the long drive I don't feel it is worth it. Was rushed out in about 35 minutes from arrival.
RT.My comments here about VIP is nothing new on the board their service is widely known. Your first sentence said it all it was your first trip there. You don't have to speak Chinese or Korean and they don't have to speak English at these places for your trip to be successful but you do need to understand the script depending on the place. First of all VIP is not famous for their massage's don't expect much sometimes the shower can be extremely sqeeky clean. And depending on your agenda don't expect to be there a full one hour unless you want to impress or wear her ass out literally. Now to the flip script if you want a HJ and she motions for one smile and gently pull her toward you or no matter what she motions if you want that honey hole you point or touch the part you want. Remember at this point of the visit she wants to know what you want and she shouldn't be the one offering, depending on her english skills you should be the one making the request with gestures not verbal jabbering she understands a point at the pussy 100% now you have to produce the tip amount and cover (they probably provide the cover if my memory serves me) when she shrugged her shoulders, she was waiting for you to point at that pussy and hold up fingers that indicated how much $ you were going to tip her. It is not as much as a rookie mistake as it is not knowing the script in these places. I've been in other Korean places that are similar to VIP and the girl did not know one word of English but she new exactly what my hand gestures meant. Every game has its rules if you want to play learn the rules. This is a great board to learn from. I will say VIP has had a business model that has worked for them for a long time I would be real surprised if they offered lesser services it's always been a full menu unless you give the girl a bad vibe. The only issue I've ever heard about them having is some post were made about them denying entry to the spa to guys because they probably looked like LE and some felt it was due to their race. Learning the script makes the game /visit a lot easier for you and her.
Rambler1111
12-07-15, 01:38
She advertises as a 30 year old, single, multi-ethnic lady. She has advertised mostly in Raleigh and Wilmington but once in Texas just 13 days ago.
http://www.eroticpostreviews.com/p/973600?modal=8443537&i=true#modal-tab.I have seen her once, very sweet woman, attractive, did not rush, did not do full service, but had a good time and couldbe available. Very reasonable. I would recommend.
5. While she lightly caresses with her finger tips, before the flip, you slowly elevate your hips hoping for a "Reach Around".
Visit #40 on JJ's list.
NightTime1
12-07-15, 09:49
My comments here about VIP is nothing new on the board their service is widely known. Your first sentence said it all it was your first trip there. You don't have to speak Chinese or Korean and they don't have to speak English at these places for your trip to be successful but you do need to understand the script depending on the place. First of all VIP is not famous for their massage's don't expect much sometimes the shower can be extremely sqeeky clean. And depending on your agenda don't expect to be there a full one hour unless you want to impress or wear her ass out literally. Now to the flip script if you want a HJ and she motions for one smile and gently pull her toward you or no matter what she motions if you want that honey hole you point or touch the part you want. Remember at this point of the visit she wants to know what you want and she shouldn't be the one offering, depending on her english skills you should be the one making the request with gestures not verbal jabbering she understands a point at the pussy 100% now you have to produce the tip amount and cover (they probably provide the cover if my memory serves me) when she shrugged her shoulders, she was waiting for you to point at that pussy and hold up fingers that indicated how much $ you were going to tip her. It is not as much as a rookie mistake as it is not knowing the script in these places. I've been in other Korean places that are similar to VIP and the girl did not know one word of English but she new exactly what my hand gestures meant. Every game has its rules if you want to play learn the rules. This is a great board to learn from. I will say VIP has had a business model that has worked for them for a long time I would be real surprised if they offered lesser services it's always been a full menu unless you give the girl a bad vibe. The only issue I've ever heard about them having is some post were made about them denying entry to the spa to guys because they probably looked like LE and some felt it was due to their race. Learning the script makes the game /visit a lot easier for you and her.Good information XHippie, I often wondered, how it all worked with the language barrier.
I have been enjoying this hobby for 20 plus years now. I have sampled a variety of the talent at various locations throughout the area. I would find a provider I liked and would stick with her building up a repour until sooner or later they would always move on. Then I was stuck again going from location to location trying to build up a new repour with a new provider. This would become costly and would be hit or miss on the level of service received.
This past year I have decided to try a new tactic. I have been sticking to one location even after a preferred provider moves on or is in New York for the week. I have found I still get the service with the extra benefits even with a first time visit with a new provider. I guess the girls do talk and share info on us "Johns".
Brneyehound
12-07-15, 16:44
Was in the area and had some time to kill. Hadn't heard anything out of this AMP for a while so decided to stop by. Opted for the hh for. 5. Declined the upsell TS for another. 2 as even though I enjoy it, In my mind, it's more for their benefit than mine so they should want to make it happen. Didn't ask the lady's name. Didn't care. Decent build, butter face. Nice smile though. Funny how that happens. Anyway. Decent medium pressure. Wonderful teasing. No negotiation on the flip. Straight to work and did a great job. Almost made her build up a sweat. I wanted to keep that one going as long as I could. Couple of hugs and a bottle of water (she really is a sweetheart) and I was out the door. . 4 tip and she was happy to get it.
I have been enjoying this hobby for 20 plus years now. I have sampled a variety of the talent at various locations throughout the area. I would find a provider I liked and would stick with her building up a repour until sooner or later they would always move on. Then I was stuck again going from location to location trying to build up a new repour with a new provider. This would become costly and would be hit or miss on the level of service received.
This past year I have decided to try a new tactic. I have been sticking to one location even after a preferred provider moves on or is in New York for the week. I have found I still get the service with the extra benefits even with a first time visit with a new provider. I guess the girls do talk and share info on us "Johns".That's the thing man find out what works for you and stick with it, it's all about enjoying yourself and leaving your provider a little happier than you found her it's a win win for both of you and makes repeat visits more pleasurable.
I've been wondering about this for a while. I've not been a fan of the AMPs because of the fact that you apparently have to negotiate at the flip. This would be a real mood killer for me. I like to put my money down, then the rest of the session have a fantasy that they are into me. Is there thrill in trying to get additional services from young (or not so young) ladies for a cheap (or reasonable) price? Nothing about that sounds like a good time. Am I missing something?
GeniePants
12-07-15, 22:04
I've been wondering about this for a while. I've not been a fan of the AMPs because of the fact that you apparently have to negotiate at the flip. This would be a real mood killer for me. I like to put my money down, then the rest of the session have a fantasy that they are into me. Is there thrill in trying to get additional services from young (or not so young) ladies for a cheap (or reasonable) price? Nothing about that sounds like a good time. Am I missing something?The couple of times I visited Westgate, there was never a negotiation. The last 2 out of 3 times at Emily, same thing.
Same here. It's been several months since I've visited Wesgate, but I would recommend for a really good massage, which is really important to me, and a pretty good negotiation-free HE.
The couple of times I visited Westgate, there was never a negotiation. The last 2 out of 3 times at Emily, same thing.
I've been wondering about this for a while. I've not been a fan of the AMPs because of the fact that you apparently have to negotiate at the flip. This would be a real mood killer for me. I like to put my money down, then the rest of the session have a fantasy that they are into me. Is there thrill in trying to get additional services from young (or not so young) ladies for a cheap (or reasonable) price? Nothing about that sounds like a good time. Am I missing something?I'm still new to this, but I have never had to negotiate.
I've been wondering about this for a while. I've not been a fan of the AMPs because of the fact that you apparently have to negotiate at the flip. This would be a real mood killer for me. I like to put mjy money down, then the rest of the session have a fantasy that they are into me. Is there thrill in trying to get additional services from young (or not so young) ladies for a cheap (or reasonable) price? Nothing about that sounds like a good time. Am I missing something?As we all know when seeing a BP provider the price is a flat rate the provider sets unless extras are added. The AMP's around here are more complicated because one never knows from month to month who will be coming or going so who knows what service will be offered from one provider to the next, or what she was use to getting as a tip in NJ or wherever. The AMP business around here is new compared to LA or NY there are stores in some of those places that have been in place for years so the service, entry fee and tip is standard knowledge for the customers regardless how many girls may rotate in and out. When a new girl comes in she is informed what the door fee is what a HJ, BJ and FS fees are. The stores here I would classify them as still in the slow lane or Jr. High School they have not graduated to the big league it's almost as if some are a big tease or still in their innocence, VIP was mentioned recently most that have been there know the entry fee and the tip to get what they went for this is because of regardless of the rotation their business is more established. But all the places in Raleigh, Durham, Cary, Garner and so on are standard service which I know everyone is aware of. Standard tip $40 for rub and tug. More than a rub and tug that's where these stores around here are still in their training wheels none are really established mainly because of who owns the store for any period of time or who works in the store for any length of time This effects the service. If you have a girl in one of these stores that was fucking and sucking in NJ and she's the only one in a Cary store now doing it she will not last because it will get out quick and she will take all the customers away from the other girls this has happened at several stores around here. It has to be a team effort ladies LOL. So we are back at square one when you are in the room with someone regardless of the store you have to find out what she offers at what price. It's the nature of what we have to choose from because of the maturity of the business here which obviously effects the maturity of the service offered. We all run across girls that haggle for the HJ tip just to pull off her shirt. Some never mention a tip they just go straight to the pole and let you have access to the goodies. It's the luck of the draw. But given the nature of these places around here its not like we can walk in and lay $120 on the table and know what's coming. It's more like the provider and customer have to size each other up. Do I like him? Man I like her I wonder If she thinks I'm a creep? Wonder what he wants? Wonder what she will do? Wonder if he tips good? Wonder how much a tip would cost for X? Call it negotiating but this is where we are. Now there are a very very few swinging dicks out there that have a girl they are tapping the honey hole that doesn't apply to anything I just said here God bless them. But for most of us it's the old fashion way, try to impress her to undress her.
I would only add a couple of comments. Some of us have better moves than others or have physical assets that help in the process, not me LOL. Also some girls get to like certain regulars, and over time will open up more for them. Some because of the tip others because for whatever reason they just like the guy or trust him. Some won't even give a HJ to some guys while other guys get lots of fun. Other girls talk about their customers all the time and share what they like, so a certain place may have everyone treating you great while certain guys get treated like a bad dog, no treats. This is usually because they give a bad tip, are dirty, or start grabbing the girl like crazy and asking for FS before even saying hello. When you find a place where the girls like each other and have worked together, here or someplace else, your odds improve.
As we all know when seeing a BP provider the price is a flat rate the provider sets unless extras are added. The AMP's around here are more complicated because one never knows from month to month who will be coming or going so who knows what service will be offered from one provider to the next, or what she was use to getting as a tip in NJ or wherever. The AMP business around here is new compared to LA or NY there are stores in some of those places that have been in place for years so the service, entry fee and tip is standard knowledge for the customers regardless how many girls may rotate in and out. When a new girl comes in she is informed what the door fee is what a HJ, BJ and FS fees are. The stores here I would classify them as still in the slow lane or Jr. High School they have not graduated to the big league it's almost as if some are a big tease or still in their innocence, VIP was mentioned recently most that have been there know the entry fee and the tip to get what they went for this is because of regardless of the rotation their business is more established. But all the places in Raleigh, Durham, Cary, Garner and so on are standard service which I know everyone is aware of. Standard tip $40 for rub and tug. More than a rub and tug that's where these stores around here are still in their training wheels none are really established mainly because of who owns the store for any period of time or who works in the store for any length of time This effects the service. If you have a girl in one of these stores that was fucking and sucking in NJ and she's the only one in a Cary store now doing it she will not last because it will get out quick and she will take all the customers away from the other girls this has happened at several stores around here. It has to be a team effort ladies LOL. So we are back at square one when you are in the room with someone regardless of the store you have to find out what she offers at what price. It's the nature of what we have to choose from because of the maturity of the business here which obviously effects the maturity of the service offered. We all run across girls that haggle for the HJ tip just to pull off her shirt. Some never mention a tip they just go straight to the pole and let you have access to the goodies. It's the luck of the draw. But given the nature of these places around here its not like we can walk in and lay $120 on the table and know what's coming. It's more like the provider and customer have to size each other up. Do I like him? Man I like her I wonder If she thinks I'm a creep? Wonder what he wants? Wonder what she will do? Wonder if he tips good? Wonder how much a tip would cost for X? Call it negotiating but this is where we are. Now there are a very very few swinging dicks out there that have a girl they are tapping the honey hole that doesn't apply to anything I just said here God bless them. But for most of us it's the old fashion way, try to impress her to undress her.
Most owners know EXACTLY what's going on. In "general" they do not want the girls "soliciting or negotiating tips" for OBVIOUS reasons. Getting busted. Most if not all girls are NOT even licensed in NC. They just want to operate under the radar. This brings too much attention to the place. They know the girls need to provide a happy ending to guarantee a reasonable tip. This is generally $40. !! In general most guys tip at least $40 for a happy ending. Regretfully some of you guys do NOT tip or give 10-20. As a result they fear they will get stiffed (no pun intended) so they start negotiating. If owners get the drift Many will FIRE her. My best advise tip well in the beginning if you like the gal and plan on returning. That means tip her 50-60 first time if you get a happy ending. They will be glad to see a guy that tips above the norm and will want to have him as a repeat customer. I guarantee you she will NEVER ask for a tip or negotiate. On return visits throw in an extra 10 bucks once in a while. When the word gets out about you all the girls in the store will want you. Conversely, be a cheap Charlie or a jerk they will treat you like the plague. One more thought. Just as we have many AMP options, these girls can work anywhere. Those only after the Big Bucks won't hang around if they can make more money and be close to home (generally NYC), especially if they were FS providers.
As we all know when seeing a BP provider the price is a flat rate the provider sets unless extras are added. The AMP's around here are more complicated because one never knows from month to month who will be coming or going so who knows what service will be offered from one provider to the next, or what she was use to getting as a tip in NJ or wherever. The AMP business around here is new compared to LA or NY there are stores in some of those places that have been in place for years so the service, entry fee and tip is standard knowledge for the customers regardless how many girls may rotate in and out. When a new girl comes in she is informed what the door fee is what a HJ, BJ and FS fees are. The stores here I would classify them as still in the slow lane or Jr. High School they have not graduated to the big league it's almost as if some are a big tease or still in their innocence, VIP was mentioned recently most that have been there know the entry fee and the tip to get what they went for this is because of regardless of the rotation their business is more established. But all the places in Raleigh, Durham, Cary, Garner and so on are standard service which I know everyone is aware of. Standard tip $40 for rub and tug. More than a rub and tug that's where these stores around here are still in their training wheels none are really established mainly because of who owns the store for any period of time or who works in the store for any length of time This effects the service. If you have a girl in one of these stores that was fucking and sucking in NJ and she's the only one in a Cary store now doing it she will not last because it will get out quick and she will take all the customers away from the other girls this has happened at several stores around here. It has to be a team effort ladies LOL. So we are back at square one when you are in the room with someone regardless of the store you have to find out what she offers at what price. It's the nature of what we have to choose from because of the maturity of the business here which obviously effects the maturity of the service offered. We all run across girls that haggle for the HJ tip just to pull off her shirt. Some never mention a tip they just go straight to the pole and let you have access to the goodies. It's the luck of the draw. But given the nature of these places around here its not like we can walk in and lay $120 on the table and know what's coming. It's more like the provider and customer have to size each other up. Do I like him? Man I like her I wonder If she thinks I'm a creep? Wonder what he wants? Wonder what she will do? Wonder if he tips good? Wonder how much a tip would cost for X? Call it negotiating but this is where we are. Now there are a very very few swinging dicks out there that have a girl they are tapping the honey hole that doesn't apply to anything I just said here God bless them. But for most of us it's the old fashion way, try to impress her to undress her.
I would only add a couple of comments. Some of us have better moves than others or have physical assets that help in the process, not me LOL. Also some girls get to like certain regulars, and over time will open up more for them. Some because of the tip others because for whatever reason they just like the guy or trust him. Some won't even give a HJ to some guys while other guys get lots of fun. Other girls talk about their customers all the time and share what they like, so a certain place may have everyone treating you great while certain guys get treated like a bad dog, no treats. This is usually because they give a bad tip, are dirty, or start grabbing the girl like crazy and asking for FS before even saying hello. When you find a place where the girls like each other and have worked together, here or someplace else, your odds improve.
My comments here about VIP is nothing new on the board their service is widely known. Your first sentence said it all it was your first trip there. You don't have to speak Chinese or Korean and they don't have to speak English at these places for your trip to be successful but you do need to understand the script depending on the place. First of all VIP is not famous for their massage's don't expect much sometimes the shower can be extremely sqeeky clean. And depending on your agenda don't expect to be there a full one hour unless you want to impress or wear her ass out literally. Now to the flip script if you want a HJ and she motions for one smile and gently pull her toward you or no matter what she motions if you want that honey hole you point or touch the part you want. Remember at this point of the visit she wants to know what you want and she shouldn't be the one offering, depending on her english skills you should be the one making the request with gestures not verbal jabbering she understands a point at the pussy 100% now you have to produce the tip amount and cover (they probably provide the cover if my memory serves me) when she shrugged her shoulders, she was waiting for you to point at that pussy and hold up fingers that indicated how much $ you were going to tip her. It is not as much as a rookie mistake as it is not knowing the script in these places. I've been in other Korean places that are similar to VIP and the girl did not know one word of English but she new exactly what my hand gestures meant. Every game has its rules if you want to play learn the rules. This is a great board to learn from. I will say VIP has had a business model that has worked for them for a long time I would be real surprised if they offered lesser services it's always been a full menu unless you give the girl a bad vibe. The only issue I've ever heard about them having is some post were made about them denying entry to the spa to guys because they probably looked like LE and some felt it was due to their race. Learning the script makes the game /visit a lot easier for you and her.Spot on about VIP. It's been eons since I've been there (distance and price became restrictive after the Chinese opened up); however, FS is definitely on the menu. You will be expected to have to negotiate $120-140 for FS. Once you are known and are an FS customer they do not negotiate and you can either lay out your tip ahead of time or pay after session. AS Xhippie said, if they have bad vibes about you may not make it past the door or if you do it's massagi ONLY. They have been successful with their business model and do not desire to change. Yes, If you a black guy in "thug" gear you won't get in. If you look like a biker "maggot" you won't get in. If you look like your under 12 it's AMF to you! BTW "cute Mamasan (kim) and Hannah are now in their late 50's. Damn those Asians age well.
Member #4621
12-10-15, 00:39
I dreamed I drove almost three hours to Raleigh for some business and popped in on the NC forum to see what's good. I had read up on VIP and decided to give it a go. Mamasan met me at the door through her little window and told me to come back in 20 minutes. I knew what was up. 20 minutes late I returned and was welcomed and taken by the hand by mamasan to the room. She asked if I wanted a shower, to which I replied yes. Mamasan gave me a good scrubbing down. She was very thorough, and I had no doubts of what to expect. This place reminded me of the 777 Spa in Biloxi, MS. After the shower I was escorted back to the room and mamasan called for a girl to come greet me. The girl came in dressed pretty sexy. She was young. Under 30 I guessed, but had some meat on her. It wasn't enough to detract from her attractiveness, and her legs were great. Her bosom was at least a see cup. I dreamt that she started by massaging me and asked if it was my first time. I told her it was, and tried to keep the conversation going, but she wasn't up for much talking. Her name was Sarah, and she didn't seem too happy. On the flip she motioned for a HJ and I shook my head and pointed to her pleasure place. She then motioned for a BJ, to which I insisted and told her $. 2. She then got a wrapped piece of candy and motioned it at me. After being stupid for several seconds I realized she was asking if I brought a wrapper. I jumped up and got it as well as the tip. She said she had to wash it and would be back. After returning she stripped down and gave me a nice CBJ with some tit rubbing. Then she hopped on. CG and Mish to completion. She seemed to genuinely enjoy it. Afterwards, she told me "Next time $140 on table so I know". It's too far away to repeat often, but hey. I can dream it every night.
I dreamed I drove almost three hours to Raleigh for some business and popped in on the NC forum to see what's good. I had read up on VIP and decided to give it a go. Mamasan met me at the door through her little window and told me to come back in 20 minutes. I knew what was up. 20 minutes late I returned and was welcomed and taken by the hand by mamasan to the room. She asked if I wanted a shower, to which I replied yes. Mamasan gave me a good scrubbing down. She was very thorough, and I had no doubts of what to expect. This place reminded me of the 777 Spa in Biloxi, MS. After the shower I was escorted back to the room and mamasan called for a girl to come greet me. The girl came in dressed pretty sexy. She was young. Under 30 I guessed, but had some meat on her. It wasn't enough to detract from her attractiveness, and her legs were great. Her bosom was at least a see cup. I dreamt that she started by massaging me and asked if it was my first time. I told her it was, and tried to keep the conversation going, but she wasn't up for much talking. Her name was Sarah, and she didn't seem too happy. On the flip she motioned for a HJ and I shook my head and pointed to her pleasure place. She then motioned for a BJ, to which I insisted and told her $. 2. She then got a wrapped piece of candy and motioned it at me. After being stupid for several seconds I realized she was asking if I brought a wrapper. I jumped up and got it as well as the tip. She said she had to wash it and would be back. After returning she stripped down and gave me a nice CBJ with some tit rubbing. Then she hopped on. CG and Mish to completion. She seemed to genuinely enjoy it. Afterwards, she told me "Next time $140 on table so I know". It's too far away to repeat often, but hey. I can dream it every night.When I first saw Jim3142 I thought I was on the Roanoke forum and not the Raleigh forum, LOL. Glad you had a good visit at VIP and it appears you played your hand well for being a first time customer there and had an excellent dream. I wonder if she wasn't happy at first when she found out you was a first time customer? Sometimes girls shy away from offering dreams when you're new. I have heard that when VIP closes for the Christmas holiday that Sarah might not return. She sounds to be what they have been lacking in girls and hopefully she will decide to stay a little longer. Safe travels when you return back to Virginia.
Emeralddragon6
12-10-15, 18:50
Anyone visit 49 yesterday or today?
When I first saw Jim3142 I thought I was on the Roanoke forum and not the Raleigh forum, LOL. Glad you had a good visit at VIP and it appears you played your hand well for being a first time customer there and had an excellent dream. I wonder if she wasn't happy at first when she found out you was a first time customer? Sometimes girls shy away from offering dreams when you're new. I have heard that when VIP closes for the Christmas holiday that Sarah might not return. She sounds to be what they have been lacking in girls and hopefully she will decide to stay a little longer. Safe travels when you return back to Virginia.As far as I can tell, you haven't posted on the Roanoke forum. Also, I don't recall a review from you regarding the VIP, which leads me to: How would you know about Sarah possibly not returning? Do all salon owners talk amongst themselves?
As far as I can tell, you haven't posted on the Roanoke forum. Also, I don't recall a review from you regarding the VIP, which leads me to: How would you know about Sarah possibly not returning? Do all salon owners talk amongst themselves?For a SM with 300+ posts I find it odd that you can't search my posts and read the ones I've posted in Roanoke. You probably didn't even look but I challenge you too and it might surprise you what you will find if you look.
As for VIP I have commented in a post or two and done a review on Rubmaps. Again, take a look since you are curious. Also, I utilize PM's and both share and receive information on the happenings in the area.
"As far as I can tell" and "I don't recall" doesn't hold up once you've done your research.
Member #4621
12-11-15, 09:48
When I first saw Jim3142 I thought I was on the Roanoke forum and not the Raleigh forum, LOL. Glad you had a good visit at VIP and it appears you played your hand well for being a first time customer there and had an excellent dream. I wonder if she wasn't happy at first when she found out you was a first time customer? Sometimes girls shy away from offering dreams when you're new. I have heard that when VIP closes for the Christmas holiday that Sarah might not return. She sounds to be what they have been lacking in girls and hopefully she will decide to stay a little longer. Safe travels when you return back to Virginia.I wish we had something like this back in VA around Roanoke. I'm curious how many other girls they have there and how they look.
I wish we had something like this back in VA around Roanoke. I'm curious how many other girls they have there and how they look.Roanoke only has Angel Spa for dreams but they do have one special girl. As for VIP I don't know about the other girl (s). Check my PM for another spa option with a name.
Anyone know of a place I can get some nice ones wrapped around me? I saw a report back in April or May, but can't find it. Pm is fine as always. Thanks for any info.
Joe Looking
12-12-15, 09:34
I've been wondering about this for a while. I've not been a fan of the AMPs because of the fact that you apparently have to negotiate at the flip. This would be a real mood killer for me. I like to put my money down, then the rest of the session have a fantasy that they are into me. Is there thrill in trying to get additional services from young (or not so young) ladies for a cheap (or reasonable) price? Nothing about that sounds like a good time. Am I missing something?TBH I've never gotten more than a HE at an AMP. I'm also of the mind that 40 is way too much to pay for a HJ since 60 will get you a BJ on BP. That said I usually don't mention the size of the tip and just let the worker do her thing. I've found that the ones who say "How much you give me?" Or want to see the money and then say "Not enough" are not much fun unless you give a certain amount that I refuse to for a BJ. The amount of time that many stay and the fact that I go so infrequently make it a bad long term investment.
I used to follow the advice and give 40 but have since gone down to 30 on the rare occasion I go to an AMP. Since the girl at the last one was so wide eyed and appreciative for 30 I think I might try 20 next time. Before anyone calls me cheap, think of the amount of jobs that don't pay anywhere near 20/ hr and let's be honest it's just a HJ so $10 is probably an appropriate tip. Hell if this were Korea, China, Thailand. And you weren't foreign then you wouldn't even tip it would be a part of the service.
TBH I've never gotten more than a HE at an AMP. I'm also of the mind that 40 is way too much to pay for a HJ since 60 will get you a BJ on BP. That said I usually don't mention the size of the tip and just let the worker do her thing. I've found that the ones who say "How much you give me?" Or want to see the money and then say "Not enough" are not much fun unless you give a certain amount that I refuse to for a BJ. The amount of time that many stay and the fact that I go so infrequently make it a bad long term investment.
I used to follow the advice and give 40 but have since gone down to 30 on the rare occasion I go to an AMP. Since the girl at the last one was so wide eyed and appreciative for 30 I think I might try 20 next time. Before anyone calls me cheap, think of the amount of jobs that don't pay anywhere near 20/ hr and let's be honest it's just a HJ so $10 is probably an appropriate tip. Hell if this were Korea, China, Thailand. And you weren't foreign then you wouldn't even tip it would be a part of the service.The tip debate has been on the board many times Not sure who set the $40 bench mark for the HJ but the girls around here have gotten use to it. For me when a HJ is the only thing on the menu it comes down to this I'm tipping 40% for the massage 40% for the play and 20% for the HJ. To me the play is very important. I agree with you $40 for just a HJ that included a shitty massage and no play will not bring me back to that provider. $20 or $40 an hour whatever the tip is seems like a lot IF she is doing a HJ every hour of the 12 hours she works every day which is unlikely. It's a give and take on both sides she must make the hour pleasant and erotic to get a good tip, and we should tip according to what we are receiving. Paying 60 or 70 entry fee is expensive and the tip better include a good time. I have many visits I'm ashamed of that I thought to my self you just wasted hard earned money on a rub and tug trap which in reality was a newbie provider new to the business. Restaurant or AMP it's all about the product and service, some are better than others in providing and tipping.
TBH I've never gotten more than a HE at an AMP. I'm also of the mind that 40 is way too much to pay for a HJ since 60 will get you a BJ on BP. That said I usually don't mention the size of the tip and just let the worker do her thing. I've found that the ones who say "How much you give me?" Or want to see the money and then say "Not enough" are not much fun unless you give a certain amount that I refuse to for a BJ. The amount of time that many stay and the fact that I go so infrequently make it a bad long term investment.
I used to follow the advice and give 40 but have since gone down to 30 on the rare occasion I go to an AMP. Since the girl at the last one was so wide eyed and appreciative for 30 I think I might try 20 next time. Before anyone calls me cheap, think of the amount of jobs that don't pay anywhere near 20/ hr and let's be honest it's just a HJ so $10 is probably an appropriate tip. Hell if this were Korea, China, Thailand. And you weren't foreign then you wouldn't even tip it would be a part of the service.The tip debate has been on the board many times Not sure who set the $40 bench mark for the HJ but the girls around here have gotten use to it. For me when a HJ is the only thing on the menu it comes down to this I'm tipping 40% for the massage 40% for the play and 20% for the HJ. To me the play is very important. I agree with you $40 for just a HJ that included a shitty massage and no play will not bring me back to that provider. $20 or $40 an hour whatever the tip is seems like a lot IF she is doing a HJ every hour of the 12 hours she works every day which is unlikely. It's a give and take on both sides she must make the hour pleasant and erotic to get a good tip, and we should tip according to what we are receiving. Paying 60 or 70 entry fee is expensive and the tip better include a good time. I have many visits I'm ashamed of that I thought to my self you just wasted hard earned money on a rub and tug trap which in reality was a newbie provider new to the business. Restaurant or AMP it's all about the product and service, some are better than others in providing and tipping.
TBH I've never gotten more than a HE at an AMP. I'm also of the mind that 40 is way too much to pay for a HJ since 60 will get you a BJ on BP. That said I usually don't mention the size of the tip and just let the worker do her thing. I've found that the ones who say "How much you give me?" Or want to see the money and then say "Not enough" are not much fun unless you give a certain amount that I refuse to for a BJ. The amount of time that many stay and the fact that I go so infrequently make it a bad long term investment.
I used to follow the advice and give 40 but have since gone down to 30 on the rare occasion I go to an AMP. Since the girl at the last one was so wide eyed and appreciative for 30 I think I might try 20 next time. Before anyone calls me cheap, think of the amount of jobs that don't pay anywhere near 20/ hr and let's be honest it's just a HJ so $10 is probably an appropriate tip. Hell if this were Korea, China, Thailand. And you weren't foreign then you wouldn't even tip it would be a part of the service.The tip debate has been on the board many times Not sure who set the $40 bench mark for the HJ but the girls around here have gotten use to it. For me when a HJ is the only thing on the menu it comes down to this I'm tipping 40% for the massage 40% for the play and 20% for the HJ. To me the play is very important. I agree with you $40 for just a HJ that included a shitty massage and no play will not bring me back to that provider. $20 or $40 an hour whatever the tip is seems like a lot IF she is doing a HJ every hour of the 12 hours she works every day which is unlikely. It's a give and take on both sides she must make the hour pleasant and erotic to get a good tip, and we should tip according to what we are receiving. Paying 60 or 70 entry fee is expensive and the tip better include a good time. I have many visits I'm ashamed of that I thought to my self you just wasted hard earned money on a rub and tug trap which in reality was a newbie provider new to the business. Restaurant or AMP it's all about the product and service, some are better than others in providing and tipping.
I've been wondering about this for a while. I've not been a fan of the AMPs because of the fact that you apparently have to negotiate at the flip. This would be a real mood killer for me. I like to put my money down, then the rest of the session have a fantasy that they are into me. Is there thrill in trying to get additional services from young (or not so young) ladies for a cheap (or reasonable) price? Nothing about that sounds like a good time. Am I missing something?
TBH I've never gotten more than a HE at an AMP. I'm also of the mind that 40 is way too much to pay for a HJ since 60 will get you a BJ on BP. That said I usually don't mention the size of the tip and just let the worker do her thing. I've found that the ones who say "How much you give me?" Or want to see the money and then say "Not enough" are not much fun unless you give a certain amount that I refuse to for a BJ. The amount of time that many stay and the fact that I go so infrequently make it a bad long term investment.
I used to follow the advice and give 40 but have since gone down to 30 on the rare occasion I go to an AMP. Since the girl at the last one was so wide eyed and appreciative for 30 I think I might try 20 next time. Before anyone calls me cheap, think of the amount of jobs that don't pay anywhere near 20/ hr and let's be honest it's just a HJ so $10 is probably an appropriate tip. Hell if this were Korea, China, Thailand. And you weren't foreign then you wouldn't even tip it would be a part of the service.
The tip debate has been on the board many times Not sure who set the $40 bench mark for the HJ but the girls around here have gotten use to it. For me when a HJ is the only thing on the menu it comes down to this I'm tipping 40% for the massage 40% for the play and 20% for the HJ. To me the play is very important. I agree with you $40 for just a HJ that included a shitty massage and no play will not bring me back to that provider. $20 or $40 an hour whatever the tip is seems like a lot IF she is doing a HJ every hour of the 12 hours she works every day which is unlikely. It's a give and take on both sides she must make the hour pleasant and erotic to get a good tip, and we should tip according to what we are receiving. Paying 60 or 70 entry fee is expensive and the tip better include a good time. I have many visits I'm ashamed of that I thought to my self you just wasted hard earned money on a rub and tug trap which in reality was a newbie provider new to the business. Restaurant or AMP it's all about the product and service, some are better than others in providing and tipping.Where do you start? So many viewpoints. The girl in an AMP leaves her home country and wants a better living. Tourist visa or work visa and off to the USA she goes with little English skills. Destination San Fransisco or New York where Chinese communities speak just Chinese but everything is expensive and minimum wage doesn't cut it. The girls who choose AMP work were previously trained in China where therapeutic massage is not associated with sex workers in China. The girls are surprised that in American AMPs the lines between massage and sex are blurred because sex work is illegal and if you don't have the proper state certifications then you can't legally do massage. This is a dilemma for many Asian girls who must decide between working in a non-erotic AMP where business is slow or an AMP that offers happy endings to try and earn some money for a descent living. Some choose the FS AMP, if there conscious doesn't bother them, because sex is less work; while giving a quality massage taxes the fingers, wrists and shoulders and is a lot more tiring then FS work.
Now, just like there are different types of girls working in an AMP there are different types of customers who visit them. Customer (A) wants a solid massage from a licensed provider so he goes to Massage Envy or non-erotic AMP where the national average for a massage is $60, no sexual services provided and most tip 10% - 15% so that puts the total at $70 for a one hour therapeutic massage. Customer (B) also wants a solid massage but wants a HJ to relieve sexual tension and he can't get that second option at Massage Envy so he goes to a erotic AMP with nice girls who will do both. The AMP house fee for one hour is $60 - $70 and the tip for massage and HJ is pretty much standard at $40. If the girl allows some OTC or UTC or looses some clothes during the HJ then then the tip amount is expected to be higher. Now, customer (B) is happy with this arrangement because he doesn't want sex at an AMP, SW or escort and doesn't care about the cost analysis when comparing both. Customer (C) is one who doesn't care about the massage and chooses the 30 minute AMP option just for the sexual tease on the backside and the flip to get his HJ sexual release but is one who doesn't pursue girls on BP or CL for sex. Granted every customer (A) or (B) or (C) might start liking a certain girl and then the mental fantasies want to be lived in real life so some Massage Envy girls will meet you outside work for sex and some AMP girls will do BJ, DATY or FS in the store if the right relationship has been developed. Finally customer (D) whose life revolves around his dick and will pursue girls wherever they may be found for the sole purpose of sex. The cheaper the sex the better because he just can't get enough and an AMP doesn't play into their equation because the massage means nothing, the HJ doesn't satisfy and the amount for both is absurd because the delicate, moist, pink flower can't be penetrated.
Conclusion: tip what you want but there are certain expectations from the girl you see at the type of AMP you visit (non-erotic, erotic AMP or FS AMP). Asians are known for their quiet spirit, slender frames, good hygiene and the care they take in making there customer satisfied in all accepts just like a GFE escort. A true GFE will cost way more than a BP escort or FS AMP provider but you will get a GFE experience with some FS AMP providers at a much lower rate.
"A" I go to a massage therapist when my muscles are stiff. "D" I go to a sex therapist when my dick is stiff. "D" Repeat, because my dick stiffens more often than my muscles do. LOL.
Anyone know of a place I can get some nice ones wrapped around me? I saw a report back in April or May, but can't find it. Pm is fine as always. Thanks for any info.Check your PMs.
Where do you start? So many viewpoints. The girl in an AMP leaves her home country and wants a better living. Tourist visa or work visa and off to the USA she goes with little English skills. Destination San Fransisco or New York where Chinese communities speak just Chinese but everything is expensive and minimum wage doesn't cut it. The girls who choose AMP work were previously trained in China where therapeutic massage is not associated with sex workers in China. The girls are surprised that in American AMPs the lines between massage and sex are blurred because sex work is illegal and if you don't have the proper state certifications then you can't legally do massage. This is a dilemma for many Asian girls who must decide between working in a non-erotic AMP where business is slow or an AMP that offers happy endings to try and earn some money for a descent living. Some choose the FS AMP, if there conscious doesn't bother them, because sex is less work; while giving a quality massage taxes the fingers, wrists and shoulders and is a lot more tiring then FS work.
Now, just like there are different types of girls working in an AMP there are different types of customers who visit them. Customer (A) wants a solid massage from a licensed provider so he goes to Massage Envy or non-erotic AMP where the national average for a massage is $60, no sexual services provided and most tip 10% - 15% so that puts the total at $70 for a one hour therapeutic massage. Customer (B) also wants a solid massage but wants a HJ to relieve sexual tension and he can't get that second option at Massage Envy so he goes to a erotic AMP with nice girls who will do both. The AMP house fee for one hour is $60 - $70 and the tip for massage and HJ is pretty much standard at $40. If the girl allows some OTC or UTC or looses some clothes during the HJ then then the tip amount is expected to be higher. Now, customer (B) is happy with this arrangement because he doesn't want sex at an AMP, SW or escort and doesn't care about the cost analysis when comparing both. Customer (C) is one who doesn't care about the massage and chooses the 30 minute AMP option just for the sexual tease on the backside and the flip to get his HJ sexual release but is one who doesn't pursue girls on BP or CL for sex. Granted every customer (A) or (B) or (C) might start liking a certain girl and then the mental fantasies want to be lived in real life so some Massage Envy girls will meet you outside work for sex and some AMP girls will do BJ, DATY or FS in the store if the right relationship has been developed. Finally customer (D) whose life revolves around his dick and will pursue girls wherever they may be found for the sole purpose of sex. The cheaper the sex the better because he just can't get enough and an AMP doesn't play into their equation because the massage means nothing, the HJ doesn't satisfy and the amount for both is absurd because the delicate, moist, pink flower can't be penetrated.
Conclusion: tip what you want but there are certain expectations from the girl you see at the type of AMP you visit (non-erotic, erotic AMP or FS AMP). Asians are known for their quiet spirit, slender frames, good hygiene and the care they take in making there customer satisfied in all accepts just like a GFE escort. A true GFE will cost way more than a BP escort or FS AMP provider but you will get a GFE experience with some FS AMP providers at a much lower rate.Yeh what he said!
I'll add this it took me a little while to find it out but having a chance to get to know a few girls I was able to get in their heads about how they really feel about us Americans or Latinos or whoever. First of all I'm not betraying them this is not a top secret and this does not apply to the slutty ones that can suck the chrome off a bumper and snap your disc in your back receiving it doggie style, these girls are what my grandpa called jack legs they can do it all. This is for the majority of the girls that we see. They truly want to give a good massage for our health, they consider this a real job not anything to do with sex they do not consider a HJ a sexual act for them altough the receiver thinks of it as sexual. They consider it part of the massage and all the touching that we do to them is not that sexual for them. Anybody's dick soft yet? LOL. It's ok guys we still enjoy ourselves but it's not that enjoyable sexually for them we are just another customer with a hard dick, it's like them preparing a sandwich for lunch that we have just ordered. Hey baby you want medium hard bla bla bla wham bam have a nice day NEXT!! And this crew of girls that we see, 95% of the time will not give FS or a BJ because of their culture no shit it's true this is their words not mine. BJ & FS are strictly reserved for their husband at home or husband to be. That only leaves a small percentage that will do the wild shit. This is the culture and the way the majority of these girls operate so when you are asking for the BJ or FS and she says the boss says no Ill get in trouble it's a little more deeper than that. Granted if you have developed a bond with a certain provider YOU may get something but not the whole posse because these girls do adhere to their culture and these percentages change depending on what city we are talking about or whether it is Chinese, American or Korean. But for arguments sake let's stick with AMP in RTP. I'm sure we all know the BJ & FS givers around here are a minority and yes there are a few. Oh I forgot back to the topic of Tips, this is what causes the confusion to ask what the hell is the tip in this place to get some action in fact what action does this place offer?
AMP or BP girls each has their challenges and risk choose your pleasure. P45 I'm pretty sure I have gone through all 4 stages A, B, C, D and so far I'm disease & therapy free (for now) I just hope I still have a 401 k when my junk won't function anymore.
I didn't feel like searching for the list but I had a good session with Cici at Studio. 90 minute for. 90. Got all the kinks out along with two shots. Safe and good experience besides the tip request routine which I just shrug off and tell them we'll see about a tip depending on the service. I did give her. 50 tip and she was very happy and appreciative.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/919-370-6527-new-10-off-great-touch-massage-free-table-shower/16998821
MD Bellamy
12-13-15, 16:22
My first visit to this establishment. Seems clean enough. Met by an older lady. No TS and straight into a "soft" massage. She remained fully clothed and I was sufficiently mellow not a try roaming hands. She brushed past the central area with increasing frequency. I'll merely say that, on the flip, I was fully satisfied. We finished off with a further "fingertip" massage. Very nice session. JimJim may need touching his ranking on this one!
Starliner63
12-13-15, 17:24
I swore off AMPs for a couple of months, since finding my UTR girl. Well, she wasn't feeling well on the night we were supposed to meet so I found myself at #35. I know that any kind of HE is pretty difficult here, but the massage is pretty damned good. I went in and Michelle gave me a big hug, wondering where I have been. She introduced me to a new girl, I can't remember her name, but she looked young and very cute. I will be going back to see her. Michelle gave me one of the best massages I have ever had and left me feeling like jello. The last few times I visited there, I was getting massaged by another girl. I always left happy. PM for details.
I was in a pinch didn't feel like driving an hour so I visited this location. Nothing good to say but will report to help others. The massage was very rough rushed to the point where it burned from her rubbing her hands so fast. Everything was very mechanical and rushed, I asked if it was busy today she said it was not busy at all. When they open the door they were both watching TV on iPads. Looks: 4. Massage:3 The ending was nothing special either, she took directions fairly well but still never achieved anything good I was barely able to finish and I really needed something done. This was the type to negotiate right after starting the happy ending, she was very aggressive at negotiation. 6 tip and hand and got the girls out. Nothing more on the menu. . at least for me. I will not repeat even in a pinch.
I was in a pinch didn't feel like driving an hour so I visited this location. Nothing good to say but will report to help others. The massage was very rough rushed to the point where it burned from her rubbing her hands so fast. Everything was very mechanical and rushed, I asked if it was busy today she said it was not busy at all. When they open the door they were both watching TV on iPads. Looks: 4. Massage:3 The ending was nothing special either, she took directions fairly well but still never achieved anything good I was barely able to finish and I really needed something done. This was the type to negotiate right after starting the happy ending, she was very aggressive at negotiation. 6 tip and hand and got the girls out. Nothing more on the menu. . at least for me. I will not repeat even in a pinch.I checked out this place Based on a review I read or a PM I can't remember It was so long ago I'm thinking the summer of 2014 Memory isn't what it use to be. I don't remember the girls name but she was a big girl compared to most of the petite girls and needed a little dental work had a gap in her front teeth other than that she looked ok, massage probably a 5 spoke fairly good english heavy negotiator, full menu was available which I sampled not that great, Based on the decor and service I decided it was too far for me to drive to repeat for what was offered. Like I said it's been awhile not sure if she's still there or what else or who else is on the menu. All I have on this place.
Bonneville
12-14-15, 16:53
I checked out this place Based on a review I read or a PM I can't remember It was so long ago I'm thinking the summer of 2014 Memory isn't what it use to be. I don't remember the girls name but she was a big girl compared to most of the petite girls and needed a little dental work had a gap in her front teeth other than that she looked ok, massage probably a 5 spoke fairly good english heavy negotiator, full menu was available which I sampled not that great, Based on the decor and service I decided it was too far for me to drive to repeat for what was offered. Like I said it's been awhile not sure if she's still there or what else or who else is on the menu. All I have on this place.I have had somewhat different experiences there but in the last few visits I have not seen the same girls there twice. Turnover it would appear is quite high.
Yeh what he said!
I'll add this it took me a little while to find it out but having a chance to get to know a few girls I was able to get in their heads about how they really feel about us Americans or Latinos or whoever. First of all I'm not betraying them this is not a top secret and this does not apply to the slutty ones that can suck the chrome off a bumper and snap your disc in your back receiving it doggie style, these girls are what my grandpa called jack legs they can do it all. This is for the majority of the girls that we see. They truly want to give a good massage for our health, they consider this a real job not anything to do with sex they do not consider a HJ a sexual act for them altough the receiver thinks of it as sexual. They consider it part of the massage and all the touching that we do to them is not that sexual for them. Anybody's dick soft yet? LOL. It's ok guys we still enjoy ourselves but it's not that enjoyable sexually for them we are just another customer with a hard dick, it's like them preparing a sandwich for lunch that we have just ordered. Hey baby you want medium hard bla bla bla wham bam have a nice day NEXT!! And this crew of girls that we see, 95% of the time will not give FS or a BJ because of their culture no shit it's true this is their words not mine. BJ & FS are strictly reserved for their husband at home or husband to be. That only leaves a small percentage that will do the wild shit. This is the culture and the way the majority of these girls operate so when you are asking for the BJ or FS and she says the boss says no Ill get in trouble it's a little more deeper than that. Granted if you have developed a bond with a certain provider YOU may get something but not the whole posse because these girls do adhere to their culture and these percentages change depending on what city we are talking about or whether it is Chinese, American or Korean. But for arguments sake let's stick with AMP in RTP. I'm sure we all know the BJ & FS givers around here are a minority and yes there are a few. Oh I forgot back to the topic of Tips, this is what causes the confusion to ask what the hell is the tip in this place to get some action in fact what action does this place offer?
AMP or BP girls each has their challenges and risk choose your pleasure. P45 I'm pretty sure I have gone through all 4 stages A, B, C, D and so far I'm disease & therapy free (for now) I just hope I still have a 401 k when my junk won't function anymore.Yes, most Chinese AMP providers do not consider the HJ a sex act and the ones that do switch to a non-erotic AMP. That is why many who do the HJ do not like the OTC or UTC that many customers want because we feel that the HJ is sex act. There is a provider I see now and she is a virgin; we talk and she is waiting till she has a husband. When you know that about a girl there is instant respect and you almost feel bad wanting a HJ. I asked her and she knows it helps me to relax so she doesn't mind but I keep my hands on the table.
Over the years I've gone from customer (D) to customer (B) and (A). Once you see that look in a person's eyes that says there lonely and they want a better life where they wouldn't have to do this work anymore; it works on the conscious after you have seen the look a few times. Women are not wired like men and while you think they are enjoying themselves some will tell you differently if you take the time to honestly listen. I will leave this with you the reader. I know a FS provider who is attractive, nice body and has skills that other girls wish they had. She told me privately that she is not worthy of love and that no man could love a woman like her. Being a man I think logically and could rationalize that she was mistaken but women think with their emotions and with their heart and women understand love a lot more then men do. I feel sorry for her even though it was her choice in doing FS work for the money and causing her to feel that way about herself. Sometimes the cost is greater then what both the customer and the provider realize at the time. We all accept risk but often the future is shortchanged for the present because the living in the now is more important at the time.
I have had somewhat different experiences there but in the last few visits I have not seen the same girls there twice. Turnover it would appear is quite high.I have been here several times and always get excellent service and a satisfying massage. Its no professional massage envy with your favorite girl massage, but its good for one of these places. The ladies there are generally the same 2 and they are pretty thin. They are older though and not super hot. I keep going back because its very close to me which makes it convenient and the ladies there can be pretty genuinely nice. Mileage varies though and maybes its just bad day or perceived rudeness.
The report I read though, didn't sound like my 4-5 experiences though.
JohnJohn1972
12-17-15, 11:24
Can anyone provide any details on the Asian Massage in Cary. I called to get the address, but it is in Cary and I would like to get an Idea of what to expect before making the drive.
If you have any info you want to share please PM.
Thanks.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/asian-massage-rub-down-ulitimate-asian/24506594
Can anyone provide any details on the Asian Massage in Cary. I called to get the address, but it is in Cary and I would like to get an Idea of what to expect before making the drive.
If you have any info you want to share please PM.
Thanks.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/asian-massage-rub-down-ulitimate-asian/24506594Never been, but I am sure you can expect the pics to be fake and be greeted by a 50 year old plus woman and hustled in and out.
Doesn't appear to be a licensed establishment either so I give it 50/50 on being stopped and questioned if you go.
Had a dream I went to Green (or Reen as it is), message was pretty good, table shower was great with lots of teasing and the flip was exquisite. Best I've had in an extremely long time. Would recommend. I tipped pretty well since even after the flip I still had time for more so I got a scalp message. Great relaxation, would recommend.
Can anyone provide any details on the Asian Massage in Cary. I called to get the address, but it is in Cary and I would like to get an Idea of what to expect before making the drive.
If you have any info you want to share please PM.
Thanks.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/asian-massage-rub-down-ulitimate-asian/24506594The phone number doesn't match either "Asian Massage" in Cary on JJ's list. I've never visited #10 but have been having good luck at #43 since they re-opened.
Anyone know of a place I can get some nice ones wrapped around me? I saw a report back in April or May, but can't find it. Pm is fine as always. Thanks for any info.Please feel free to share this info via pm. Sounds great!
The phone number doesn't match either "Asian Massage" in Cary on JJ's list. I've never visited #10 but have been having good luck at #43 since they re-opened.I'm sure it's obvious to most that have seen the ad but I'll say it anyway.
Guys Asian Massage is not the name of the store in this ad. It's more like "come see us we are Asian that gives massages" There's a reason you don't see a street address in this ad, Think BP girl when looking at this ad. As far as what to expect I've never been but I would imagine it's the standard BP service a QV type deal due to language difficulties looks and age of the girls humm that could be all over the place. I'm sure there's some PM that could answer what, who, how much etc.
I'm sure it's obvious to most that have seen the ad but I'll say it anyway.
Guys Asian Massage is not the name of the store in this ad. It's more like "come see us we are Asian that gives massages" There's a reason you don't see a street address in this ad, Think BP girl when looking at this ad. As far as what to expect I've never been but I would imagine it's the standard BP service a QV type deal due to language difficulties looks and age of the girls humm that could be all over the place. I'm sure there's some PM that could answer what, who, how much etc.She works out of her apartment in Cary by Cary crossroads shopping center. When I saw her she was working solo. But said she was going to have another person soon. I highly recommend.
Why do recommend so highly? Please share your experience and offer a review.
She works out of her apartment in Cary by Cary crossroads shopping center. When I saw her she was working solo. But said she was going to have another person soon. I highly recommend.
MD Bellamy
12-20-15, 01:34
Can anyone provide any details on the Asian Massage in Cary. I called to get the address, but it is in Cary and I would like to get an Idea of what to expect before making the drive.
If you have any info you want to share please PM.
Thanks.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/asian-massage-rub-down-ulitimate-asian/24506594I TOFTT today with these Backpage denizens.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/nuru-japanese-baby/24224911
The ad mentions "staff" and business hours in a way that might lead one to expect a parlor of some sort. Looking for "nuru" I went along, to discover a Super 8 motel room and a fairly attractive lady being controlled by a phone woman. I made my excuses and bailed.
Stevet,
I sent you a PM. I'll report back to the forum after I hear back and make a visit if it works out.
Nattie.
She works out of her apartment in Cary by Cary crossroads shopping center. When I saw her she was working solo. But said she was going to have another person soon. I highly recommend.
I wanted a massage the other day and thought I would give #43 a try since the closed and re-opened. The massage was average and on the flip I was offered more than a HE. I didn't partake in the fun, so I can't report on how that service was. I did not really feel rushed like others have reported.
Anyone used them are they good and details need to know about thanks.
Anyone used them are they good and details need to know about thanks.If you are new to the forum then the best advice is to utilize the thread search when researching an establishment or provider. I don't know what details you are looking for on Absolute Therapy but its a good place for a therapeutic massage and they also offer a 4 - hand massage too.
Alright thanks purple preciate the help.
If you are new to the forum then the best advice is to utilize the thread search when researching an establishment or provider. I don't know what details you are looking for on Absolute Therapy but its a good place for a therapeutic massage and they also offer a 4 - hand massage too..
I've enjoyed a couple of the local establishments over the past couple of weeks, so I can't say exactly where I picked it up, but I now have a rash on my belly just over my navel.
It's an itchy, crusty, spot about the size of a half dollar. Doc says it is ringworm, which in spite of the name is actually a fungus like athlete's foot or jock itch.
After catching athlete's foot from the shower at the YMCA I now wear sandals when I shower at the gym. I never thought about the fact that I was doing the same thing to my entire body in the table shower at a spa.
My most recent visits were to two places I had never been before: #37 Asia Remedy and #45 Asian Massage.
Some girls at some places are just plain lazy. They do no always use fresh towels. They don't wash the towels for both dry and hot with enough bleach or disinfectant and they don't use good hygiene in the table shower room. If the management does not wise up and get the girls to actually clean the places up, my next list will include a cleanliness rating. Watch how quick they then start paying attention when they start to lose business. No matter how good the massage is its not worth it if you get a fungus.
Like I said some girls are just plain lazy. When you make 80 to 200 thousand a year you need to keep the place clean.
I've enjoyed a couple of the local establishments over the past couple of weeks, so I can't say exactly where I picked it up, but I now have a rash on my belly just over my navel.
It's an itchy, crusty, spot about the size of a half dollar. Doc says it is ringworm, which in spite of the name is actually a fungus like athlete's foot or jock itch.
After catching athlete's foot from the shower at the YMCA I now wear sandals when I shower at the gym. I never thought about the fact that I was doing the same thing to my entire body in the table shower at a spa.
My most recent visits were to two places I had never been before: #37 Asia Remedy and #45 Asian Massage.
I've enjoyed a couple of the local establishments over the past couple of weeks, so I can't say exactly where I picked it up, but I now have a rash on my belly just over my navel.
It's an itchy, crusty, spot about the size of a half dollar. Doc says it is ringworm, which in spite of the name is actually a fungus like athlete's foot or jock itch.
After catching athlete's foot from the shower at the YMCA I now wear sandals when I shower at the gym. I never thought about the fact that I was doing the same thing to my entire body in the table shower at a spa.
My most recent visits were to two places I had never been before: #37 Asia Remedy and #45 Asian Massage.As some will remember I rambled on about this several months ago about all the cooties floating around these places from the towels to the door knobs and those nasty as shower room slippers and cum stained robes. A few months ago I got out of the shower at home and I had a bad splotchy rash on my back and sides my doctor told me it was a fungus. WTF! He gave me a type of soap to bathe in went away about a week. I know kinda where I got it just don't know exactly where I got it, swinging the dick in too many places I guess. Best advice I gave myself is never do the table shower thing, carry Purell in the car and wash my ass real good as soon as I get home. These are jack shacks guys not a five star hotel don't trust anything that touches your body as far as assuming it's clean. The one that REALLY concerns me is that warm wet towel they clean the junk with after the load has been popped how clean is that cloth? Oh Doc if you read this board and remember my soap prescription you now know who Xhippie
is LOL.
If you want to know about your favorite massage spot try these two things. First, go in the morning when they open and a good place will be washing the towels and tidying up. Second, after your massage take your time getting dressed and you will notice if the girl changes the towels or not as the room is prepared for the next customer. The TS is hard to gauge if it's washed after you leave but in a past post it was mentioned to have the girl put down a clean towel to provide a barrier and that was sound advice. I will add to have the girl use her hand to apply the soap and avoid using a wash cloth or scrub device.
It was my first go at a full body so I wasn't so sure about it we talked for 2 days before I met her she works out of her own apartment does a great massage and a excellent HJ to the finish she does do mutual touch I think I spent 80 for hh but it was worth it she's alittle weird bbw body arm scars didn't ask about but she was very nice and made me feel comfortable first review hope it helps. http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/achieve-erotic-elevation-with-slow-sensual-stimulation/24876345.
It was my first go at a full body so I wasn't so sure about it we talked for 2 days before I met her she works out of her own apartment does a great massage and a excellent HJ to the finish she does do mutual touch I think I spent 80 for hh but it was worth it she's alittle weird bbw body arm scars didn't ask about but she was very nice and made me feel comfortable first review hope it helps. http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/achieve-erotic-elevation-with-slow-sensual-stimulation/24876345.Welcome aboard Rmc2252, thanks for sharing your review the more reviews the better for all of us.
If you want to know about your favorite massage spot try these two things. First, go in the morning when they open and a good place will be washing the towels and tidying up. Second, after your massage take your time getting dressed and you will notice if the girl changes the towels or not as the room is prepared for the next customer. The TS is hard to gauge if it's washed after you leave but in a past post it was mentioned to have the girl put down a clean towel to provide a barrier and that was sound advice. I will add to have the girl use her hand to apply the soap and avoid using a wash cloth or scrub device.Good advice. Here's a tip: when I go to an AMP and expect a TS, I bring my own scrub device and leave it behind after the TS. They are inexpensive and this way I know I'm getting a clean one.
Thanks hippie hope it helps going to do some more reviews soon hopefully before the new year haha
Welcome aboard Rmc2252, thanks for sharing your review the more reviews the better for all of us..
Raleighassman
12-22-15, 09:01
Not making this out to be a big deal, because it's a life issue. Not a Massage issue, however I often wonder how many guys get an oral infection from BBBJ. There are so many girls and so many guys rotating thru them. Seems like we'd be hearing about it on the forum. Anybody have a "friend" who got hit with this?
Some girls at some places are just plain lazy. They do no always use fresh towels. They don't wash the towels for both dry and hot with enough bleach or disinfectant and they don't use good hygiene in the table shower room. If the management does not wise up and get the girls to actually clean the places up, my next list will include a cleanliness rating. Watch how quick they then start paying attention when they start to lose business. No matter how good the massage is its not worth it if you get a fungus.
Like I said some girls are just plain lazy. When you make 80 to 200 thousand a year you need to keep the place clean.
As some will remember I rambled on about this several months ago about all the cooties floating around these places from the towels to the door knobs and those nasty as shower room slippers and cum stained robes. A few months ago I got out of the shower at home and I had a bad splotchy rash on my back and sides my doctor told me it was a fungus. WTF! He gave me a type of soap to bathe in went away about a week. I know kinda where I got it just don't know exactly where I got it, swinging the dick in too many places I guess. Best advice I gave myself is never do the table shower thing, carry Purell in the car and wash my ass real good as soon as I get home. These are jack shacks guys not a five star hotel don't trust anything that touches your body as far as assuming it's clean. The one that REALLY concerns me is that warm wet towel they clean the junk with after the load has been popped how clean is that cloth? Oh Doc if you read this board and remember my soap prescription you now know who Xhippie
is LOL.That is such a great idea! I would base my choices with that in mind for sure.
Brneyehound
12-22-15, 15:22
Added the batches link to the list thread. Hopefully it'll be helpful to someone other than just me.
stickeypaper
12-22-15, 21:11
Went to #46 on JJs list. The place on James Jackson and was not a P+ from my experience. Went around opening time and opted for the 1 hour deal.
The only one working was Lee. She took me to the first room (#1 on the door) which was "hugh" bedroom size and asked if wanted the table shower before or.
After. Always take it before. I would guess she was in her early 30's and had on a tight top and tight jeans. English was not very good, but we managed.
The table shower was really good. Got all the proper parts. The massage was hard but ok. Not much on the sensual side. Did not allow any touching on.
The front part, she almost ran away when I tried (gently not rudely). When I asked for more, she flat out refused to even discuss. She said NOT HERE.
Typical damage 7 at the door and a small tip at the end.
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Good idea!
Added the batches link to the list thread. Hopefully it'll be helpful to someone other than just me.
It was my first go at a full body so I wasn't so sure about it we talked for 2 days before I met her she works out of her own apartment does a great massage and a excellent HJ to the finish she does do mutual touch I think I spent 80 for hh but it was worth it she's alittle weird bbw body arm scars didn't ask about but she was very nice and made me feel comfortable first review hope it helps. http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/achieve-erotic-elevation-with-slow-sensual-stimulation/24876345.How much did you pay?
Anyone visit 49 yesterday or today?I've been out of town but I've noticed that #43 has not been advertising on BP lately and they did not answer the phone when called. I see nothing on WRAL to suggest anything so does anybody have an update?
Why you guys go to these places is beyond me. I think I went once and never returned, either my freshman or soph year in college. Not my scene. You all act like rashes, no possibility of any "favors," NO INGLES, and hit or miss service AT BEST is worth more than what you could pay to fuck a cute BP girl without the lousy experience?
I just don't get it. I never do. I never have. Am I missing something? Are you guys all Vietnam Vets hooked on the Sucky Sucky look?
Why you guys go to these places is beyond me. I think I went once and never returned, either my freshman or soph year in college. Not my scene. You all act like rashes, no possibility of any "favors," NO INGLES, and hit or miss service AT BEST is worth more than what you could pay to fuck a cute BP girl without the lousy experience?
I just don't get it. I never do. I never have. Am I missing something? Are you guys all Vietnam Vets hooked on the Sucky Sucky look?I love a good massage and a hour to relax with nice girl. The house fee basically covers the massage which I find Asian massages to be better than what I have gotten at legitimate therapeutic places in town. Most guys are happy with HJ for relief and a skilled hand girl can produce that same tingling sensation that can had with good lip service.
A QV on BP is cheaper and you get to stick it in but your talking only 10 minutes of her time, no personal connection and often I've felt like WTH did I just do after it's all over. Not to mention how unclean the BP girls are with not taking showers between customers and most have nasty rooms with the sheets that the other 5 guys before you sweated on. Plus the drugs many are involved in, the time wasted playing phone tag, pimps and last but not least uncle is always right around the corner because of the drugs or court FTA warrants. How many STD's do guys get from BP girls that goes unreported on the forum? Probably quite a few and it's embarrassing to admit that junior is sick so it goes unmentioned.
I find that AMP's are a better value for me because of the massage and AMP's are so much less risky and the experience is so much more relaxing. I'm not going to be rude like you with your Vietnam Vet sucky sucky comment but Asian girls are very appealing to men of all ages including me.
Joey Sambora
12-23-15, 00:50
It was my first go at a full body so I wasn't so sure about it we talked for 2 days before I met her she works out of her own apartment does a great massage and a excellent HJ to the finish she does do mutual touch I think I spent 80 for hh but it was worth it she's alittle weird bbw body arm scars didn't ask about but she was very nice and made me feel comfortable first review hope it helps. http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/achieve-erotic-elevation-with-slow-sensual-stimulation/24876345.So I googled Mystikas number which led me to her Facebook page. Under her friends led me fown another rabbit hole. Be safe out there guys. PM me for more details.
Why you guys go to these places is beyond me. I think I went once and never returned, either my freshman or soph year in college. Not my scene. You all act like rashes, no possibility of any "favors," NO INGLES, and hit or miss service AT BEST is worth more than what you could pay to fuck a cute BP girl without the lousy experience?
I just don't get it. I never do. I never have. Am I missing something? Are you guys all Vietnam Vets hooked on the Sucky Sucky look?It's obvious the post I make is all about AMP's so what Purple45 stated I agree with. However I understand exactly what you are saying. There are many choices out there for guys to play the game to find their form of relaxtion. There's AMP, American Massage Parlor, BP girls, Strip Clubs, Street Walkers, Adult Book Stores (the hill). I could pick anyone of theses and point out the pros and cons but one mans WTF I don't get it, is another mans hobby he spends his time and money on. I have more Asian pussy than I can handle but if I step into a strip club I'm like WTF look at the prices for these drinks holy shit how much for a dance OMG what would a BJ in this place cost? What do you mean I can't touch her LOL, and the risk verses the reward playing the street walker and back page girl game is high not for beginners. But an experience guy who knows all the signals of a BP girl or knows how the streets work has little problems achieving his goal. So it's not one is better than the other it's what turns you on, better yet it's what knowledge and connections you have to achieve the main goal TO GET THAT PUSSY at a fair price with no hassles. Then there are the veterans on this board that have played "or" is playing several of the options available listed above, God bless these erect mongers. So there's no right or wrong it's just a personal choice. Just a side note something I've been thinking about, based on all the choices I'm sure some guys especially some of the newbies that read this board think DAMN I have to be careful and not get caught up in this so call game some of these fuckers sound like they have some issues is this all they do? I don't play golf fish hunt or bowl so yeh I guess I do focus on pussy more than the average guy. It's ok to think this but this is a game and if you are going to play it should be played like any game safe and according to the rules. Rule 1. Don't do anything that hurts yourself or others, rule 2 don't play if you can't afford it. Rule 3 when it no longer is enjoyable stop. I have a Personal rule for myself if I think about the game before I go to bed and it's the first thing I think of when I open my eyes, it's time for xhippie to take a long break and I take plenty of breaks. Ok that's my psychology evaluation for today that will be $500 LOL, but seriously back to the topic it's like I said its just for fun and it's a personal choice just be safe and have some fun.
Why you guys go to these places is beyond me. I think I went once and never returned, either my freshman or soph year in college. Not my scene. You all act like rashes, no possibility of any "favors," NO INGLES, and hit or miss service AT BEST is worth more than what you could pay to fuck a cute BP girl without the lousy experience?
I just don't get it. I never do. I never have. Am I missing something? Are you guys all Vietnam Vets hooked on the Sucky Sucky look?That war was horrible, and the way those men were treated was worse. Just live and let live man. I dabble in all parts of the hobby. I find the AMP to be the safest bet. No pimps, no chance of extortion, less chance of police involvement, and if they get involved it not drugs and other bad stuff. I served my country, and any man that went into that jungle deserves his sucky sucky.
It's obvious the post I make is all about AMP's so what Purple45 stated I agree with. However I understand exactly what you are saying. There are many choices out there for guys to play the game to find their form of relaxtion. There's AMP, American Massage Parlor, BP girls, Strip Clubs, Street Walkers, Adult Book Stores (the hill). I could pick anyone of theses and point out the pros and cons but one mans WTF I don't get it, is another mans hobby he spends his time and money on. I have more Asian pussy than I can handle but if I step into a strip club I'm like WTF look at the prices for these drinks holy shit how much for a dance OMG what would a BJ in this place cost? What do you mean I can't touch her LOL, and the risk verses the reward playing the street walker and back page girl game is high not for beginners. But an experience guy who knows all the signals of a BP girl or knows how the streets work has little problems achieving his goal. So it's not one is better than the other it's what turns you on, better yet it's what knowledge and connections you have to achieve the main goal TO GET THAT PUSSY at a fair price with no hassles. Then there are the veterans on this board that have played "or" is playing several of the options available listed above, God bless these erect mongers. So there's no right or wrong it's just a personal choice. Just a side note something I've been thinking about, based on all the choices I'm sure some guys especially some of the newbies that read this board think DAMN I have to be careful and not get caught up in this so call game some of these fuckers sound like they have some issues is this all they do? I don't play golf fish hunt or bowl so yeh I guess I do focus on pussy more than the average guy. It's ok to think this but this is a game and if you are going to play it should be played like any game safe and according to the rules. Rule 1. Don't do anything that hurts yourself or others, rule 2 don't play if you can't afford it. Rule 3 when it no longer is enjoyable stop. I have a Personal rule for myself if I think about the game before I go to bed and it's the first thing I think of when I open my eyes, it's time for xhippie to take a long break and I take plenty of breaks. Ok that's my psychology evaluation for today that will be $500 LOL, but seriously back to the topic it's like I said its just for fun and it's a personal choice just be safe and have some fun.Well said XHippie; I responded in emotion because I took offense. Sometimes it's best to step back but I was tired and ready for bed at the time, LOL. Yes, there are many choices and everyone has a different way on how to have fun and relax. All hobbies have pros and cons as well as rewards and risks so in the end it's a personal choice.
Speaking of hobbies; having rules is good advice and if any hobby becomes your life then other more important areas are probably being neglected. Your life needs balance between working hard, eating healthy, exercising, proper sleep and relaxation / pleasurable hobbies you enjoy. Too much of anything is not healthy so prioritize your life; be in control and not the other way around. So often we guys follow our little head and we make poor choices because the urges can overrule sound judgment and reason at the time that can get anyone in all sorts of difficulties: STD's, uncontrollable debt, divorce, poor work performance, etc.
TheAmazing
12-23-15, 09:31
I recently visited Ocean Spa for a one hour massage around mid-day. I texted Michelle my desired appointment time and she responded within 10 minutes or so. I arrived at the location (it is a one story building with a barber shop across from Winston's Grille) and was greeted by Michelle. She passed me off to one of the other ladies (I missed her name -- around 5'7", mid-thirties, attractive to me) who provided me with an amazing therapeutic massage. No teasing, and if anything else was available, I missed the signals. This was not a surprise to me based on previous posts and the H rating. The spa was squeaky clean and very hygienic.
If anyone has pointers, tips, or advice on this location, please PM.
Happy Holidays!
I definetely agree with you about the BP thing. There is lot of risks unless you are just going to a regular or more expensive providers. AMP is always no hassle. And you can indulge more because of the costs and peace of mind.
JB.
I love a good massage and a hour to relax with nice girl. The house fee basically covers the massage which I find Asian massages to be better than what I have gotten at legitimate therapeutic places in town. Most guys are happy with HJ for relief and a skilled hand girl can produce that same tingling sensation that can had with good lip service.
A QV on BP is cheaper and you get to stick it in but your talking only 10 minutes of her time, no personal connection and often I've felt like WTH did I just do after it's all over. Not to mention how unclean the BP girls are with not taking showers between customers and most have nasty rooms with the sheets that the other 5 guys before you sweated on. Plus the drugs many are involved in, the time wasted playing phone tag, pimps and last but not least uncle is always right around the corner because of the drugs or court FTA warrants. How many STD's do guys get from BP girls that goes unreported on the forum? Probably quite a few and it's embarrassing to admit that junior is sick so it goes unmentioned.
I find that AMP's are a better value for me because of the massage and AMP's are so much less risky and the experience is so much more relaxing. I'm not going to be rude like you with your Vietnam Vet sucky sucky comment but Asian girls are very appealing to men of all ages including me.
This place has always been a nice spot for solid massages and leaving happy. Recently made two visits with two different girls. A very good massage was received and the ceiling poles were used to apply some extra pressure. A little tease before the flip and since they know me I didn't have to ask for anything, they knew. No haggling with either girl and I tipped a little extra because some girls always work hard and always have a good attitude and I appreciate that so do they when they get a little extra.
I was curious about #49 after my initial visit / report and some of the feedback. Decided to visit again on Monday around Noon. My surprise the door was locked and no lights were on. Did this place bite the dusk already?
Since I was in motion, I decided to drive north to Youngsville where I haven't visited in years. Easy entry and not busy at all. I was the only customer. I think this is the first time a girl under 30 was my masseuse and she was moderately pretty but could not speak a word of English. TS were very thorough but the massage was very inadequate. She displayed no skill at all. After about 10 minutes she signaled for me to flip and made a sign for a HJ and how much money. I communicated $. 6 for all clothing off and complete access to her body including fiv. Finally agreed to $. 8 which I had to pre pay. She disrobed and went to work. I got what I requested but only brief fiv. She knew how to get in position to avoid the roaming index but encouraged daty. This was enough to make me pop. As I was leaving mamasan welcome me back after the New Year since store will be closed for the holidays. I have no plans to return, although young pretty girl is tempting. I like a good Massage and $8 entry fee for 30-40 minutes is steep. Guys keep a cool tool over the yule.
Brneyehound
12-23-15, 18:19
Why you guys go to these places is beyond me. I think I went once and never returned, either my freshman or soph year in college. Not my scene. You all act like rashes, no possibility of any "favors," NO INGLES, and hit or miss service AT BEST is worth more than what you could pay to fuck a cute BP girl without the lousy experience?
I just don't get it. I never do. I never have. Am I missing something? Are you guys all Vietnam Vets hooked on the Sucky Sucky look?Kinda rude but whatever. I stick mainly to the AMPs due to the safety. The chances of ending up in handcuffs and having to explain to anyone is far less at an AMP. Even if the cops do come rushing in you'll still have time to flip over and 9 times out of 10 all she will have to do is put her tits away (on a good day). Most of the time she just has to throw a towel over you and act surprised. There are some cleanliness concerns but through research here and trial and error I find that grabbing your own towel from the stack and bringing your own scrubber or asking for hands only in the TS can cut down any risks significantly. There is no way to avoid all risk in this hobby but staying away from unknown BP girls who may have warrants and drugs in their rooms is a big step in the right direction. Just my 2 cents.
Can any of you suggest the best (your favorite) AMP closest to blue ridge? PM details if you'd like. Thanks in advance.
- fish.
Toy Soldier
12-23-15, 19:04
Excellent intel work, man!
So I googled Mystikas number which led me to her Facebook page. Under her friends led me fown another rabbit hole. Be safe out there guys. PM me for more details.
Yup, found the same. Interesting. Once you go down the other rabbit hole, lots more can be learned.
So I googled Mystikas number which led me to her Facebook page. Under her friends led me fown another rabbit hole. Be safe out there guys. PM me for more details.
Jefferson469
12-24-15, 00:15
So I googled Mystikas number which led me to her Facebook page. Under her friends led me fown another rabbit hole. Be safe out there guys. PM me for more details.It is amazing what you can find from there. What goodies did you find?
I've been out of town but I've noticed that #49 has not been advertising on BP lately and they did not answer the phone when called. I see nothing on WRAL to suggest anything so does anybody have an update?
I was curious about #49 after my initial visit / report and some of the feedback. Decided to visit again on Monday around Noon. My surprise the door was locked and no lights were on. Did this place bite the dusk already?I meant #49 and not #43 in my original post. Yes, the spa sppears closed but the events which led to its current status and whether it is just temporary or permanent remains to be seen. They were advertising on BP everyday but no ads appear after December 7th.
Recently relocated to Raleigh and wanted to know if anyone could point me in the direction of a good AMP (preferably with a possibility of a HE) PM me if you like.
Livinitinva
12-24-15, 11:08
Recently relocated to Raleigh and wanted to know if anyone could point me in the direction of a good AMP (preferably with a possibility of a HE) PM me if you like.Under Raleigh, Look for the User's Blog's Section and find JJ's List.
In there will be a list of all AMPs in the area, a general rating, as well a map to where they are located.
Then once you have a few in mind, you can search for reviews on those.
Quite often you will see a review reference a NUMBER.
This number will reference back to JJ's List.
#9 is one of the few places that would not put me in tons of traffic. Anyone have any experience over there? Their website has a "gallery" but I assume it is safe to say none of them work there. PM is always welcome. I may just have a go at it and see what happens this week. Thank you.
GeniePants
12-28-15, 19:04
#9 is one of the few places that would not put me in tons of traffic. Anyone have any experience over there? Their website has a "gallery" but I assume it is safe to say none of them work there. PM is always welcome. I may just have a go at it and see what happens this week. Thank you.While non of the girls in the gallery work there, I have enjoyed several visits there in the last few months, including once this past weekend. As always, YMMV, but they've all been pretty happy experiences.
Recently made a visit after over a year and I left disappointed. I arrived around 7:45 pm and I was the only customer but when I left all the girls were busy and there was one customer waiting in the front. I had the first room on the right and it felt like I had no privacy being right across from the girl's waiting room and diagonal to the customer waiting area. I asked for a girl and she wasn't there so I drew who was next in line. The girl was nice but to save time I'll get to the point. Some girls get how to do a massage while few just rub and its not consistent or soothing. The HJ was worse and she didn't have a clue on how to do a proper build-up so a DIY was done because time ran out. Nice girl but perhaps she didn't pay attention to her instructor during her training.
When she left for my water I wiped my oily hands and junior on the towel she used to lay across my back initially and I laid it back on the table. When she came in well she divided it and rolled it up and laid it back on the table for the next customer. Damn, and I thought this place was one of the better ones for massages and cleanliness. Who knows what the customer, before me, did with that towel.
Recently made a visit after over a year and I left disappointed. I arrived around 7:45 pm and I was the only customer but when I left all the girls were busy and there was one customer waiting in the front. I had the first room on the right and it felt like I had no privacy being right across from the girl's waiting room and diagonal to the customer waiting area. I asked for a girl and she wasn't there so I drew who was next in line. The girl was nice but to save time I'll get to the point. Some girls get how to do a massage while few just rub and its not consistent or soothing. The HJ was worse and she didn't have a clue on how to do a proper build-up so a DIY was done because time ran out. Nice girl but perhaps she didn't pay attention to her instructor during her training.
When she left for my water I wiped my oily hands and junior on the towel she used to lay across my back initially and I laid it back on the table. When she came in well she divided it and rolled it up and laid it back on the table for the next customer. Damn, and I thought this place was one of the better ones for massages and cleanliness. Who knows what the customer, before me, did with that towel.Yep! That's why I never get a massage unless I can shower at home right after and also keep that Purell in the car. That rash I got from one of these places (God knows which one) a few months ago taught me a lesson. Don't let the Decor trick you ALL these places cut corners because of the girls changing so often. Hey these places don't have "Good Manufacturing Procedures" they jack dicks, be careful guys.
Ok guys I'm lookin some more info on 41 on the list sense its close tn home and rated with an E. PMs would be greatly apreciated. Thanks.
#46 on the list has been treating me well over the last few months since it opened and I just want to give props to them. They're still doing the free ts with the hour massage for 70. I start off with the ts and half the time itself has a he, then the massage is good and has always had a he too. PM me if you want more deets.
It has been a while since I have seen Marcie post on BP and she has not responded to emails. Has she retired?
#46 on the list has been treating me well over the last few months since it opened and I just want to give props to them. They're still doing the free ts with the hour massage for 70. I start off with the ts and half the time itself has a he, then the massage is good and has always had a he too. PM me if you want more deets.Are you talking Cary or Durham?
Just noticed that #46 in addition to its Cary address also shows the address for #45. Don't know how I missed that. I'll fix in the next update. Sorry. For now go by the 1st address for #46.
Are you talking Cary or Durham?
Member #4972
12-30-15, 11:16
#44 is adequate, but nothing special. If you are in the area and have a strict half hour it will serve the purpose.
#26 had an above average top off HJ experience here a few weeks back just as they opened for the day. Wendy I believe. Nothing compares to the brief tenure when tiny Mary was there with her ability to play with a set.
It has been a while since I have seen Marcie post on BP and she has not responded to emails. Has she retired?I think she has a lot of crap going on with her, which always seems to be the case. She's a nice woman, but man she has a lot of drama. The last time I saw her was over the summer and I probably won't repeat.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/great-treatments-close-to-downtown/21538336
I have seen her a couple of times now. She is way hotter than her pic and a really sweet girl if you get her to open up and talk. She will be as quiet as you want her. Totally legit massage and I go there knowing this because it is probably the best massage out there. She will wear a tight tank top and usually jeans, but damn she is hot.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-massage-by-kat/9643824
I have been busy the last few months and haven't had a chance to post my dreams. She is easy to get a hold of and schedule with and is a really sweet woman. However, think with your big head and go somewhere else because it is totally mechanical and she only allows minimal roaming and tries to rush you. She definitely has the best chest a woman can buy, but she is older, I'd say late 40's, if not 50+. Again, very sweet, but you can tell she is jaded and just does this for the money, which is fine. No more from me though!
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/mind-and-body-therapy/25325785
I have dreamed with this one several months ago. At the time, even though her ad said massage only, she offered the standard HJ and even went topless and allowed roaming. I saw some of her ads now showing cleavage shots which leads me to believe she wasn't getting much foot traffic. Her massage is so-so, but was wondering if she is offering more now? Does anyone know?
MikeLittle
12-30-15, 12:16
Has she been reviewed before? Can anyone PM me with the intel please? Thanks!
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tis-the-season-for-stressinto-the-bliss-zone-with-euphoric-massage/22202629
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/great-treatments-close-to-downtown/21538336
I have seen her a couple of times now. She is way hotter than her pic and a really sweet girl if you get her to open up and talk. She will be as quiet as you want her. Totally legit massage and I go there knowing this because it is probably the best massage out there. She will wear a tight tank top and usually jeans, but damn she is hot.When she lets the puppies breathe! Oh, and when she's willing to massage my 3rd leg. It's the one that cramps the most.
It has been a while since I have seen Marcie post on BP and she has not responded to emails. Has she retired?She changes her email addresses constantly. I would suggest finding the last ad she had on BP and sending an email in system. I was going to see her a second time but one of the senior members convinced me otherwise due to an alleged case of hsv. I didn't want to take the risk so I won't see her again. It might be a rumor but that's enough for me.
She changes her email addresses constantly. I would suggest finding the last ad she had on BP and sending an email in system. I was going to see her a second time but one of the senior members convinced me otherwise due to an alleged case of hsv. I didn't want to take the risk so I won't see her again. It might be a rumor but that's enough for me.I flat out asked her about it and she of course denied it, but doesn't every prisoner in prison profess their innocence? It's enough for me too! I'm just glad I didn't do anything like that with her!
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/great-treatments-close-to-downtown/21538336
I have seen her a couple of times now. She is way hotter than her pic and a really sweet girl if you get her to open up and talk. She will be as quiet as you want her. Totally legit massage and I go there knowing this because it is probably the best massage out there. She will wear a tight tank top and usually jeans, but damn she is hot.This is my personal opinion, applies to the legit girls like this one with what appears to be a kick ass rack and the other lady reviewed here Kat and pardon the pun all the weird hippie chicks that want to help me connect with my inner self bla bla bla, (just suck that dick girl). The more I do this the more I value my cash so the line for me keeps getting thinner and thinner between Legit and BlueBall.
This is my personal opinion, applies to the legit girls like this one with what appears to be a kick ass rack and the other lady reviewed here Kat and pardon the pun all the weird hippie chicks that want to help me connect with my inner self bla bla bla, (just suck that dick girl). The more I do this the more I value my cash so the line for me keeps getting thinner and thinner between Legit and BlueBall.I post all my legit massage reviews on www.legitmassagereviews.info, that leaves this site available for the discussion of HE, BJ, FS and Greek.
MD Bellamy
12-30-15, 19:47
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/great-treatments-close-to-downtown/21538336
I have seen her a couple of times now. She is way hotter than her pic and a really sweet girl if you get her to open up and talk. She will be as quiet as you want her. Totally legit massage and I go there knowing this because it is probably the best massage out there. She will wear a tight tank top and usually jeans, but damn she is hot.There was a huge debate on this forum several months ago about this lady, regarding her pic (it's the same one again) and pricing, which, it was argued, seemed to promise more than folks received. Several posters seemed aggrieved that she refused to do "more" than her ad stated, despite a license and a "therapeutic" post. Some certainly pushed her to the point where she told them to get out. I asked at the time, What happens if you make inappropriate moves with a legit masseuse? If, for example, you start jerking off in front of a nurse in a doctor's surgery, you'd be in severe trouble, or if you ran your hand up her thigh, same thing, right? I can't see any difference if we try these sorts of things with a licensed professional massage therapist, even if it's an "accidental" but repeated touch. Any thoughts on how to handle (if that's the correct word) this sort of situation?
MD Bellamy
12-30-15, 19:52
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/great-treatments-close-to-downtown/21538336
I have seen her a couple of times now. She is way hotter than her pic and a really sweet girl if you get her to open up and talk. She will be as quiet as you want her. Totally legit massage and I go there knowing this because it is probably the best massage out there. She will wear a tight tank top and usually jeans, but damn she is hot.It's interesting that she's now moved her ads over to BP. Previously, she'd used Craigslist, where the dividing line for "legit" is perhaps a little clearer.
LightFox100
12-30-15, 21:22
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/mind-and-body-therapy/25325785
I have dreamed with this one several months ago. At the time, even though her ad said massage only, she offered the standard HJ and even went topless and allowed roaming. I saw some of her ads now showing cleavage shots which leads me to believe she wasn't getting much foot traffic. Her massage is so-so, but was wondering if she is offering more now? Does anyone know?Well as a long term customer of hers I can vouch for her policy. Which is also clearly stated in the ad. Everyone knows the power of advertising. So if she puts a pic up of a bra with clleavage yah that's great advertising for obvious reasons. However, it doesn't mean you're getting any extras. Try that and see how you get treated buddy.
There was a huge debate on this forum several months ago about this lady, regarding her pic (it's the same one again) and pricing, which, it was argued, seemed to promise more than folks received. Several posters seemed aggrieved that she refused to do "more" than her ad stated, despite a license and a "therapeutic" post. Some certainly pushed her to the point where she told them to get out. I asked at the time, What happens if you make inappropriate moves with a legit masseuse? If, for example, you start jerking off in front of a nurse in a doctor's surgery, you'd be in severe trouble, or if you ran your hand up her thigh, same thing, right? I can't see any difference if we try these sorts of things with a licensed professional massage therapist, even if it's an "accidental" but repeated touch. Any thoughts on how to handle (if that's the correct word) this sort of situation?My comment is about this girl but really applies to anyone that pulls her stunt, it's nothing more than a bait and switch using herself!
If I remember the last time she was discussed it was "where" she advertised compared to "what" she did. If they advertise on BP or BodyRub the definition of LEGIT is the customers will bust a nut because that is the product being advertised and service being delivered based on the billboard the ad is on.
If they advertise they are a CMT in the Independent or Craigs List the definition of LEGIT is massage only because of "where the ad is".
That was my WTF with this girl last time, there are 50 ads about how juicy how hot how I will rock your world etc. Along with pictures of half naked girls begging us to come and get this juicy thing. And this LEGIT CMT "license masseuse" thinks hey this would be a good place to advertise but those fuckers better keep their hands to themselves I'm a professional, come on lady give me a break. I agree if you know the girl is a CMT keep your hands to yourself and enjoy the massage but if you advertise on a HE website expect at least to be asked. I'm sure most everyone that goes into Massage Envy does not expect what they get in these Chinese places there's no touching no teasing no flip moment and how often does Massage Envy run ads on the Body Rub section along with VIP and the rest Raleigh, Durham and Cary AMP. So when this girl or anyone else puts an ad on the "jack shack section" don't get offended if a dick pops out of the towel or someone test a touch or ask can I get this massaged? HELL NO! I'm A PROFESSIONAL! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU MEN! Yikes sorry my bad, I will admit I have fantisized that she probably has the best nipples a man could want to nurse on.
............What happens if you make inappropriate moves with a legit masseuse? If, for example, you start jerking off in front of a nurse in a doctor's surgery, you'd be in severe trouble, or if you ran your hand up her thigh, same thing, right? I can't see any difference if we try these sorts of things with a licensed professional massage therapist, even if it's an "accidental" but repeated touch. Any thoughts on how to handle (if that's the correct word) this sort of situation?Many CMT's do indulge the client some. Those are the ones I think are the rare finds, but worth looking for. No I would not jerk off in front of my nurse or female doctor. But, they are not running their hands all over my naked body either. This gal flaunts her looks and her tits to get men in for a massage. Is she were a "professional" I would think she should be wearing more professional attire knowing where she advertises. But she doesn't. Her pic is just to lure your little head in so he can disappoint the big head. I think it's a crap tactic but some here are visiting so she will keep doing it. My 2 cents.
Gents. Could you PM me if there is any updated / new info on Magic Hands. I've read all the available reviews. Just wondering if there is anything new since the location works for me. I've been laying low for a while, but need to get the new year off to a good start (it's kind of an "anti-resolution" thing).
If anyone has Marcie's new phone please PM. She is a very good at massage and nice finish. A little bit chunky but still has the curves. I lost her new number.
I gave #46 a try yesterday. There were two ladies just hanging out in the lobby as I walked in. Both 5's. Luckily the better of the two took me back. Table shower was huge and clean, she used her hands to wash me. She did wash "me" but only for a few seconds, the rest of the brief TS was spent on washing the rest of me. No "happy beginning" as one report mentioned. Massage was quiet good, no teasing to speak of. Her English was pretty good, and she had a great and happy attitude. She was very attentive after the flip. She took direction and had quite a few different "methods". Some nice fake moans and breathing too. This place was one of the cleaner places I have been. I was allowed very little OTC roaming. I tried to go under and no go, asked and was told no, but very nicely. Due to distance I would not repeat. SM may contact / PM with questions if I left out something.
GrillMaster
01-02-16, 23:36
Short report: never again.
Details: Mama was at door with one girl. Girl was a 6 or so, slightly thick, but cute face. Kept her bluejeans and at one point a down vest on. Massage was mostly hard hitting and rubbing, flip was boring and totally underwhelming. Whatever kind of lotion it was hardened into glue balls and as I write this I'm still picking that shit off my back.
Flip was nothing to get excited about, so junior didn't even take notice. I finally suggested she give up but she said "five more minutes, ok? Try harder. " Nothing. I'm ready to go home. Finally I said "Pretty boobies. " She asked "You want touch? Hello! Yes I do, and did and things improved. Finally over, hot towel, bye.
And her prostate massage felt like a bumper jack. Never again.
Short report: never again.
Details: Mama was at door with one girl. Girl was a 6 or so, slightly thick, but cute face. Kept her bluejeans and at one point a down vest on. Massage was mostly hard hitting and rubbing, flip was boring and totally underwhelming. Whatever kind of lotion it was hardened into glue balls and as I write this I'm still picking that shit off my back.
Flip was nothing to get excited about, so junior didn't even take notice. I finally suggested she give up but she said "five more minutes, ok? Try harder. " Nothing. I'm ready to go home. Finally I said "Pretty boobies. " She asked "You want touch? Hello! Yes I do, and did and things improved. Finally over, hot towel, bye.
And her prostate massage felt like a bumper jack. Never again.I can't speak for others and this is not a review for the places I'll mention but just my current opinion. There are a few stores that I have checked off of my visit list mainly because of what I use to get back in the good old days a year or so ago LOL, Studio Salon Wendy Wendy Wendy damn I miss my Wendy, Atsu in Cary one girl there that loved to have some naked fun I'll hold her name not sure if she's still around I did spot her at Asaia Remedy a little while back only for a brief moment I think she was just visiting there on business we just said hello to each other at the desk. Had a lot of fun at Yucca in Cary back in the day with Lucy and believe it or not Green Spa on Jones Franklin Rd. The shower room Green Spa had some of my DNA in it when they closed those doors. Fun times there for a very short time I had high hopes for that place after a few visits. I haven't been to Studio in I can't remember when the last time I did oh lord old and ugly was her name I think. I guess it's the same now for some other guys Because I here some guys say Westgate is not the same or this place or that place etc. But for me now when I hear someone say Studio Salon or Yucca or Atsu my thoughts go back to certain girls that are now long gone that I could really count on no matter what day of the week it was it was a sure thing, it was how I created my rotation list. It's funny these girls would help throw my back out then they would have to repair it. But now I just haven't been back to these old places on any regular basis. If I add a girl to my so called rotation I'm always looking for a replacement, and I don't have what I would call a regular place, man they change so often now. But change is good offers the oppertunity for new girls and new possibilities. But I do miss Wendy LOL. Happy New Year guys! y'all stay safe, healthy and HE
RufoReal6371
01-03-16, 12:59
Stopped #43 on the list in the Abby Road shopping center. Stopped last week on the Wednesday. They didn't have the telltale "Open" sign but the door was unlocked and walked in to the front reception area to meet CeeCee. Nice Japanese girl, talkative above average English. Lousy massage, offered the flip quickly many extras available, just bring your wallet, high tip expected.
I visit the area once a year for business.
Have been to several AMPs some better then others but all the ladies remained fully dressed usually in street clothes.
Is this the norm? Different states have different rules. Is there an AMP in the area that allows if not touch and least a good look?
GrillMaster
01-03-16, 20:58
I think looks are as important as touch. Simply shaking hands with junior doesn't do a thing for me if she's covered in denim, sweater, boots, etc. At least Rose in Durham has girls in flimsy onesies good for utc. I don't know of any nude massages, unless you just happen to know who to ask to drop their duds.
I visit the area once a year for business.
Have been to several AMPs some better then others but all the ladies remained fully dressed usually in street clothes.
Is this the norm? Different states have different rules. Is there an AMP in the area that allows if not touch and least a good look?
Bonneville
01-03-16, 22:21
I think looks are as important as touch. Simply shaking hands with junior doesn't do a thing for me if she's covered in denim, sweater, boots, etc. At least Rose in Durham has girls in flimsy onesies good for utc. I don't know of any nude massages, unless you just happen to know who to ask to drop their duds.11:30 am got a 30 min for. 45 and totally nude on the flip with a. 60 donation included FIV. Not much to look at to tell the truth, a so so massage, tease when she did my legs just before flip and would not allow touching up top and did not negotiate with me at all. No one else in the place. Did the trick, all smiles.
RubaDubdub01
01-03-16, 23:21
This time of year drives me nuts with the AMPs. When I walk in and the ladies are wearing parka jackets inside I just turn around and leave. A space heater in the room, that you turn on when I walk in is not heat. Laying on the table shivering is not relaxing at all! Unfortunately I can't go back to my favorite AMP until late spring as they are one of the guilty AMPs that do not run the heat. If you guys could let me know which AMPs actually turn on the heat so I don't lay there and shiver I would greatly appreciate it.
Completely separate question. Been thinking about visiting Quality Bath, haven't been there in years. If you have been recently I would appreciate a report. Thanks.
This time of year drives me nuts with the AMPs. When I walk in and the ladies are wearing parka jackets inside I just turn around and leave. A space heater in the room, that you turn on when I walk in is not heat. Laying on the table shivering is not relaxing at all! Unfortunately I can't go back to my favorite AMP until late spring as they are one of the guilty AMPs that do not run the heat. If you guys could let me know which AMPs actually turn on the heat so I don't lay there and shiver I would greatly appreciate it.
Completely separate question. Been thinking about visiting Quality Bath, haven't been there in years. If you have been recently I would appreciate a report. Thanks.I was coming back from Crabtree today and was in the mood for an actual massage more than a HE itch so I stopped by Apex Massage on Duraleigh Rd. The massage was not too bad, no roaming allowed typical rub and tug service I wouldn't make the trip there if I had another place close by. It's been awhile since I'd been there, appears to be clean and nice rooms but they did have the heat on and one thing that felt pretty good was the massage oil is heated so it's warm when she rubs it in. With this particular provider I would rate her massage higher than her playfulness. So if you want a comfortable place with a warm oil massage with a Bla HE this place is not bad.
11:30 am got a 30 min for. 45 and totally nude on the flip with a. 60 donation included FIV. Not much to look at to tell the truth, a so so massage, tease when she did my legs just before flip and would not allow touching up top and did not negotiate with me at all. No one else in the place. Did the trick, all smiles.Was this at Rose in Durham? PM me if you want.
I was coming back from Crabtree today and was in the mood for an actual massage more than a HE itch so I stopped by Apex Massage on Duraleigh Rd. The massage was not too bad, no roaming allowed typical rub and tug service I wouldn't make the trip there if I had another place close by. It's been awhile since I'd been there, appears to be clean and nice rooms but they did have the heat on and one thing that felt pretty good was the massage oil is heated so it's warm when she rubs it in. With this particular provider I would rate her massage higher than her playfulness. So if you want a comfortable place with a warm oil massage with a Bla HE this place is not bad.Have to second the opinion on Apex. I like them for the cleanliness, comfort and quality of the massage. The "quality" of the providers, in terms of looks and playfulness, seems to come and go and is currently in a lull. However, as XHippie stated, if you are in the mood for a relaxing massage, the quality of the massage is consistently good.
A guy has made a post on RubMaps that Emily at Asia Remedy in Durham has given him the nasty! Gonorrhea due to Daty and BB action. This is very recently, so if anyone has had BB or Daty with her you may want to get checked this can be transmitted to your dick or mouth. Sorry for this news but this word needs to get out about her. I'm not sure if he has told the owner but the owner needs to get rid of her ass fast. Guys going in licking and sticking her then going to the other places means trouble for all of us. You can see his original post on Rubmap dated 12/7 then his recent message 1/3 so he contracted this in Dec.
A guy has made a post on RubMaps that Emily at Asia Remedy in Durham has given him the nasty! Gonorrhea due to Daty and BB action. This is very recently, so if anyone has had BB or Daty with her you may want to get checked this can be transmitted to your dick or mouth. Sorry for this news but this word needs to get out about her. I'm not sure if he has told the owner but the owner needs to get rid of her ass fast. Guys going in licking and sticking her then going to the other places means trouble for all of us. You can see his original post on Rubmap dated 12/7 then his recent message 1/3 so he contracted this in Dec.Not calling you into question, but does his post give any indication of proof that it was definitely her? (Not a member there, so I can't read it).
Also, if the owner is aware of it, the responsible thing to do would be to get her treated. Firing her would just move her to another place and put us at risk. It's pretty easy / cheap to get fixed. Either way, exercise caution out there guys.
Not calling you into question, but does his post give any indication of proof that it was definitely her? (Not a member there, so I can't read it).
Also, if the owner is aware of it, the responsible thing to do would be to get her treated. Firing her would just move her to another place and put us at risk. It's pretty easy / cheap to get fixed. Either way, exercise caution out there guys.He has relayed to me he got it in his junk and orally and is on antibiotics for the next month. Have guys ever made this claim to trash a girl that wasn't given into there demands? Sure! But this Emily is an easy one to drop her pants for any customer with the tip, so I tend to believe his story. As far as the owner getting her treated good luck with that these owners don't give a shit about these girls he will get her to a bus station pronto is my guess. Once a girl like this gives a place a black eye she is out of here. She probably came to this store infected being booted away from somewhere else is my guess with a new name no doubt. Believe what you are comfortable with.
MikeLittle
01-04-16, 12:53
She is definitely a lady, but has anyone seen her? Please PM me if you could. Thanks!
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/raleigh/0/1/275416
I will never understand what would make someone think its a good idea to go down on these girls.
A guy has made a post on RubMaps that Emily at Asia Remedy in Durham has given him the nasty! Gonorrhea due to Daty and BB action. This is very recently, so if anyone has had BB or Daty with her you may want to get checked this can be transmitted to your dick or mouth. Sorry for this news but this word needs to get out about her. I'm not sure if he has told the owner but the owner needs to get rid of her ass fast. Guys going in licking and sticking her then going to the other places means trouble for all of us. You can see his original post on Rubmap dated 12/7 then his recent message 1/3 so he contracted this in Dec.
I will never understand what would make someone think its a good idea to go down on these girls.That's an easy one "thinking with the little head".
Recently made a visit after over a year and I left disappointed. I arrived around 7:45 pm and I was the only customer but when I left all the girls were busy and there was one customer waiting in the front. I had the first room on the right and it felt like I had no privacy being right across from the girl's waiting room and diagonal to the customer waiting area. I asked for a girl and she wasn't there so I drew who was next in line. The girl was nice but to save time I'll get to the point. Some girls get how to do a massage while few just rub and its not consistent or soothing. The HJ was worse and she didn't have a clue on how to do a proper build-up so a DIY was done because time ran out. Nice girl but perhaps she didn't pay attention to her instructor during her training.
When she left for my water I wiped my oily hands and junior on the towel she used to lay across my back initially and I laid it back on the table. When she came in well she divided it and rolled it up and laid it back on the table for the next customer. Damn, and I thought this place was one of the better ones for massages and cleanliness. Who knows what the customer, before me, did with that towel.I made a second visit a drew a different girl. The massage was excellent this time and like what they use to be. The lady was quiet, nice and was smelling good. No tease though and didn't ask if I wanted a little extra rub. I didn't ask and was expecting the HE to be automatic or at least suggested. It was my fault for assuming especially seeing a girl for the first time. I plan on repeating and will just ask upfront on the flip to avoid the guessing game. Some girls are not mind readers and like to play it safe and wait on the customer to make the first move.
Joe Looking
01-04-16, 19:58
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-girls-new-deals-9193073220/24206962
I don't make it to the area much and I'm pretty sure this used to be used for an after hours strip club.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-girls-new-deals-9193073220/24206962
I don't make it to the area much and I'm pretty sure this used to be used for an after hours strip club.I don't know, I've been curious about this one as well since the new faces have appeared on their ad. When Lotus reopened there were some so so reviews because of the staff that they cranked back up with not a lot of play time I think remember reading in the early reviews. Looks like maybe they change the staff again? At least the pictures in the new ad look promising.
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