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There was a UHAUL there this week, door wide open and lots of activity going in and out. Doubt this is staying open.
At Eden and Westgate I've always had a happy ending and no one has ever asked about a tip. $40 is my usual tip after a happyending and the girls always seem pleased with it.I went to Westgate last week after work, nice massage, some flirting, whispering, regular happy ending, a little bit of under the shirt roaming, a little over the clothes grabbing. I tipped 40, but was pressured for an additional 20. The more she put the "sad" face on. The more quietly irritated it made me. I didn't show it. I just ignored her. I would certainly tip more if I felt it was really exceptional, but I felt like 40 was plenty. I had "showed" what I had so she was after it.
Long time regular with one of the girls there and had an interesting experience Thursday (T-giving) night. Near closing time, and she was the only one there. She wanted to play in the "hangout" room where the girls watch TV, no cameras there she said. Near full on fucking first time ever there. FIV, FIA and she let me slip the tip in and do a few short strokes. Hot.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/mutual-touch-body-2-body-nuru-and-prostate-rub80-12hr140hr-incall-only/19044256
Has anyone had an experience with Mia? I couldn't find anything in search results. She looks great in the pics, and I would love to find a provider who gives a good prostate massage. Feel free to shoot me a PM.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/mutual-touch-body-2-body-nuru-and-prostate-rub80-12hr140hr-incall-only/19044256
Has anyone had an experience with Mia? I couldn't find anything in search results. She looks great in the pics, and I would love to find a provider who gives a good prostate massage. Feel free to shoot me a PM.No experience but she was reviewed within the last month. Try searching the forum a bit, but basically I recall she was an upseller and only offered Nuru at her expensive rate.
Member #4364
11-29-14, 21:45
I'm getting a lot of resistance from the girls about tipping $40.
What has been your experience, have they turned you down for $40 tip?Never had a girl complain about $40 for tip. Seems to e the standard rate. At least for half hour + HE.
No experience but she was reviewed within the last month. Try searching the forum a bit, but basically I recall she was an upseller and only offered Nuru at her expensive rate.Avoid. Shitty attitude. Not even close to providing services as suggested. Rip off.
Spooner Strum
11-30-14, 11:44
Long time regular with one of the girls there and had an interesting experience Thursday (T-giving) night. Near closing time, and she was the only one there. She wanted to play in the "hangout" room where the girls watch TV, no cameras there she said. Near full on fucking first time ever there. FIV, FIA and she let me slip the tip in and do a few short strokes. Hot.Does that mean there are cameras in the rooms and elsewhere?
Also, door cost?
I'm getting a lot of resistance from the girls about tipping $40.
What has been your experience, have they turned you down for $40 tip?I gave 40 tip at the place in cary and the girl looked at it like it was something wrong. I asked is something wrong with the tip. I asked about 3 times but never got an answer. Most people don't make 40 an hour so when they get 40 out of someone they should be very happy. At another location the lady wanted 50 for a HJ and very pushy about it. I said no just give me the massage, she quickly changed her mind about the price, but by then I only wanted the massage. Be willing to walk out without extras if your tip is not enough, after all its all about the massage.
I gave 40 tip at the place in cary and the girl looked at it like it was something wrong. I asked is something wrong with the tip. I asked about 3 times but never got an answer. Most people don't make 40 an hour so when they get 40 out of someone they should be very happy. At another location the lady wanted 50 for a HJ and very pushy about it. I said no just give me the massage, she quickly changed her mind about the price, but by then I only wanted the massage. Be willing to walk out without extras if your tip is not enough, after all its all about the massage.My "guess" is with the competition between all the stores and between the girls in the store they are probably getting less customers each in a typical work day so they are asking for more. I mean when's the last time anyone posted how good a time they had at Studio Salon, some of these stores just seem to drop off this board and the girls are probably loosing customers to the flavor of the month store. But as someone said in another post we have to keep the tips in check so not to get too high.
HarryKrishnah
12-01-14, 06:12
I gave 40 tip at the place in cary and the girl looked at it like it was something wrong. I asked is something wrong with the tip. I asked about 3 times but never got an answer. Most people don't make 40 an hour so when they get 40 out of someone they should be very happy. At another location the lady wanted 50 for a HJ and very pushy about it. I said no just give me the massage, she quickly changed her mind about the price, but by then I only wanted the massage. Be willing to walk out without extras if your tip is not enough, after all its all about the massage.When the negotiations are done upfront I push hard and insist on 40 $ because I already know I am going to get subpar service. I've also said, its all I got and if its not enough you don't have to do it. They all know a HE is less work than a massage and they're all happy to spend the time doing that and running for hot towels instead of working. I tend not to go back to places where its negotiate and pay upfront (I. E. Emily spa was absolute worst).
For the ones that insist on the cash before the act, I point to the clock and make a point that I'm expecting a full hour. This happened at the place near the DMV, which is reported as being notorious for shorting on time according to the monger map (thank you again to the guy who created that). All before the money was even handed over, 20 minutes into the session, she actually argued with me that someone else might walk in and she'll need to end sooner. I had to remind her I was paid for 60 minutes. Anyway she was ugly and had nipples that looked like little balloons. Bigger balls than this http://www.007b.info/b/nipplepics/na-fl-nipple-npg.jpg, one bigger than the other. Weirdest I've ever seen. Anyway, I digress.
On the other hand, I was at holiday spa in morrisville Sunday evening and had the pleasure of Ann. She spoke little english, did not ask for tip upfront or ask how much I plan to give. Gave me two pops and worked damn hard on the massage, then showered me like a baby afterwards. I felt she deserved $60, but only had $50 and she was very pleased with it. I'll repeat with her and happily give her $60 for the same type of service.
The War Host
12-01-14, 10:36
I'm starting to get old and my memory fails me at times. Is this the same Jen (Genny) that used to give massages at the nail salon in Cary?
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-relax-with-jen/19068115
I'm sure I remember her posting this ad or similar looking one when she started hosting at her spot.
Flockshepherd
12-01-14, 12:34
I'm starting to get old and my memory fails me at times. Is this the same Jen (Genny) that used to give massages at the nail salon in Cary?
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-relax-with-jen/19068115
I'm sure I remember her posting this ad or similar looking one when she started hosting at her spot.Actually here is the picture Genny posted when she first got started, looks nothing like the current picture but I'm willing to TOFTT if it's absolutely necessary. Altruism is my middle name.
The War Host
12-01-14, 19:00
Actually here is the picture Genny posted when she first got started, looks nothing like the current picture but I'm willing to TOFTT if it's absolutely necessary. Altruism is my middle name.Thanks. I was way off. Unfortunately the link is already dead so I guess I won't be TOFTT.
jobobtheclown
12-01-14, 19:30
My "guess" is with the competition between all the stores and between the girls in the store they are probably getting less customers each in a typical work day so they are asking for more. I mean when's the last time anyone posted how good a time they had at Studio Salon, some of these stores just seem to drop off this board and the girls are probably loosing customers to the flavor of the month store. But as someone said in another post we have to keep the tips in check so not to get too high.I don't know about the rest of you, but I've stopped posting because we know what parlors are good, and it's generally a no-no to post about specific girls, so there's nothing to report. There are more hot 20-somethings available in the mix right now than I've seen in the area before. Plus, everyone remembers what happened with Tina: posted here and they overworked her until she bailed in a week, never to return. *sniff* I miss those tits more than some deceased members of my extended family.
Toy Soldier
12-01-14, 21:03
Thanks. I was way off. Unfortunately the link is already dead so I guess I won't be TOFTT.Yeah, I sent her a text this afternoon requesting rate info and never heard anything back.
Does that mean there are cameras in the rooms and elsewhere?
Also, door cost?There are either cameras or Two-way mirrors in there. I went one night and it was pretty obvious. The girl I saw slipped up by accident and said "we need to be where they can see us". I asked her to repeat what she said and she tried to change the subject. This was after I asked if the shower that was in the room was something could make use of.
I posted this in Durham as well but that place doesn't get many visitors.
Asia Remedy: New AMP in Durham off Hwy 55.
Just spotted a new place in Greenwood Commons Shopping Center off hwy 55 in Durham. Its the same shopping center where Papa Mojo's was. Its looks done, the open sign was lit but there was a sign that said opening soon. Its my first time noticing and I pass that place every other day.
I'm getting a lot of resistance from the girls about tipping $40.
What has been your experience, have they turned you down for $40 tip?Never had a problem, but I don't discuss it, I just put down the 40 when getting undressed while they are gone.
Never had a problem, but I don't discuss it, I just put down the 40 when getting undressed while they are gone.However, for a new person to set a good time for future visits or for exceptional service, I will add another 10 when getting dressed when they are gone.
Moon Raker
12-02-14, 10:35
I stayed with the 40 tip at Eden as the massage was just slightly above average and standard service. Girl seemed happy even though I gave her 50 the time before. We need to stick to our guns unless you are getting exceptional service or expanded menu. That is the goal, so hopefully they will figure this out by Christmas.
jobobtheclown
12-02-14, 19:45
I posted this in Durham as well but that place doesn't get many visitors.
Asia Remedy: New AMP in Durham off Hwy 55.
Just spotted a new place in Greenwood Commons Shopping Center off hwy 55 in Durham. Its the same shopping center where Papa Mojo's was. Its looks done, the open sign was lit but there was a sign that said opening soon. Its my first time noticing and I pass that place every other day.Oh, hunh, didn't realize Papa Mojo's closed. Good to know; curious if anyone has tried them out. I might take the plunge if we get no reports in a week or so.
Oh, hunh, didn't realize Papa Mojo's closed. Good to know; curious if anyone has tried them out. I might take the plunge if we get no reports in a week or so.I drove in there today. Didn't see anything at all. Where is it in the strip? What is it called?
I posted this in Durham as well but that place doesn't get many visitors.
Asia Remedy: New AMP in Durham off Hwy 55.
Door was locked at 8 pm yesterday.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I've stopped posting because we know what parlors are good, and it's generally a no-no to post about specific girls, so there's nothing to report. There are more hot 20-somethings available in the mix right now than I've seen in the area before. Plus, everyone remembers what happened with Tina: posted here and they overworked her until she bailed in a week, never to return. *sniff* I miss those tits more than some deceased members of my extended family.Saddly I've found that our reports get abused all to heck. There are a whole lot of people just reading. I've been at a few places and other mongers roll in being jerk wads, all loud and blustery, ruining the atmosphere. On my last review I asked if anyone had a place they wanted me to review. Several of the responses were from people who never ever post and half the stuff was unintelligible, but it was all about dishing out the good details.
So I'll drop some dirt so you fellow mongers get an idea of what is out there, but I won't name the place or the person. Don't even PM me asking if you aren't someone that I've traded PMs with in the past.
Had a great massage last week before turkey day. Went to a place not on my normal rotation and got a girl that was fairly new. No one has named her here. Anyway, the massage started out so-so but she picked it up. About half way through is when I start on the touching. I tend to lay w / my arms draped over the side dangling. So when the masseuses is on the side you can start on the OTC on the legs. She swung around and I started my roaming. You can tell if they are down or not based on when they start pushing back / blocking on the roaming. I kept going and had her grinding her pussy on my hand while working my legs. She got real handsy on the twig and berries while still grinding down. On the flip, I had FIV immediately. This was the first time she ever saw me, so I'm quite certain more would be available on a repeat.
After Turkey day when I came back to the area from visiting family, I went to one of my normal places. Caught a provider that never lets anything happen, she's not really down for roaming but gives one helluva handy. I don't what it was, but she was in rare form and I was able to get her off while she got me off. I mean her handy by itself is heaven, her getting into it and letting me get her off, I felt like I was 15 again. I came so hard I damn near shot myself in the eye. She looked over at the spray after we were done and was amazed.
Oh this hobby is crazy.
Door was locked at 8 pm yesterday.Open sign is on. Door is still locked at 1:45. Lots of signs saying "Coming Soon". Not sure if they realize the light is on.
jobobtheclown
12-03-14, 19:14
Open sign is on. Door is still locked at 1:45. Lots of signs saying "Coming Soon". Not sure if they realize the light is on.Yep, same at 5:30 pm tonight (Wednesday). Not that I'm so chomping at the bit that I thought it'd change in 4 hours, but because I went before checking the forum. It looks a little bit higher-end for us, though, with an actual front desk with a computer and signs pre-printed with the name ("Asia Remedy" Some of accoutrements. Announcement banners and the like. Look like those used for other places in the area (I. E. Super relax branches), but I'm learning that those are likely just purchased from the same reseller.
Yep, same at 5:30 pm tonight (Wednesday). Not that I'm so chomping at the bit that I thought it'd change in 4 hours, but because I went before checking the forum. It looks a little bit higher-end for us, though, with an actual front desk with a computer and signs pre-printed with the name ("Asia Remedy" Some of accoutrements. Announcement banners and the like. Look like those used for other places in the area (I. E. Super relax branches), but I'm learning that those are likely just purchased from the same reseller.I like the name of the store ("Remedy" this thing right here sweetheart) way better than the name Yucca WTF!
I'm pretty sure this store is ready to rock and roll, probably waiting for some girls to transfer from god knows from where, then their replacements have to be found, maybe a few.
Weeks is my guess.
Saddly I've found that our reports get abused all to heck. There are a whole lot of people just reading. I've been at a few places and other mongers roll in being jerk wads, all loud and blustery, ruining the atmosphere. On my last review I asked if anyone had a place they wanted me to review. Several of the responses were from people who never ever post and half the stuff was unintelligible, but it was all about dishing out the good details.
So I'll drop some dirt so you fellow mongers get an idea of what is out there, but I won't name the place or the person. Don't even PM me asking if you aren't someone that I've traded PMs with in the past.
Had a great massage last week before turkey day. Went to a place not on my normal rotation and got a girl that was fairly new. No one has named her here. Anyway, the massage started out so-so but she picked it up. About half way through is when I start on the touching. I tend to lay w / my arms draped over the side dangling. So when the masseuses is on the side you can start on the OTC on the legs. She swung around and I started my roaming. You can tell if they are down or not based on when they start pushing back / blocking on the roaming. I kept going and had her grinding her pussy on my hand while working my legs. She got real handsy on the twig and berries while still grinding down. On the flip, I had FIV immediately. This was the first time she ever saw me, so I'm quite certain more would be available on a repeat.
After Turkey day when I came back to the area from visiting family, I went to one of my normal places. Caught a provider that never lets anything happen, she's not really down for roaming but gives one helluva handy. I don't what it was, but she was in rare form and I was able to get her off while she got me off. I mean her handy by itself is heaven, her getting into it and letting me get her off, I felt like I was 15 again. I came so hard I damn near shot myself in the eye. She looked over at the spray after we were done and was amazed.
Oh this hobby is crazy.This post raises some interesting points, there are 3 kinds of massage establishments IMHO, 1. Legit ain't nothing going to happen. 2. the Walmart HE store many post saying the same thing IN, FLIP, HJ, TIP, OUT and I agree these places can get loud, mechanical and demanding. 3. Then there are the diamonds in the rough which can be expensive to find but boy when you find them and there are some swinging dicks reading this know what I'm talking about. And yes none of us will ever give up who these ladies are. Some are in the NON- Erotic description store. My favorite was at a Cary store but she is gone the reason I can say now. She would fuck, suck and anything else in the store and never ask for anything other than the tip being offered. And this was real tricky in this store because it had those sliding doors and the walls that did not go to the ceiling. Oops did I give away the store, I'm sure other guys reading this know exactly who I'm talking about. My point is at this stage of the game for me, this diamond is what I'm looking & paying dearly for. A crazy game indeed!! Cheaper than golf
This post raises some interesting points, there are 3 kinds of massage establishments IMHO, 1. Legit ain't nothing going to happen. 2. the Walmart HE store many post saying the same thing IN, FLIP, HJ, TIP, OUT and I agree these places can get loud, mechanical and demanding. 3. Then there are the diamonds in the rough which can be expensive to find but boy when you find them and there are some swinging dicks reading this know what I'm talking about. And yes none of us will ever give up who these ladies are. Some are in the NON- Erotic description store. My favorite was at a Cary store but she is gone the reason I can say now. She would fuck, suck and anything else in the store and never ask for anything other than the tip being offered. And this was real tricky in this store because it had those sliding doors and the walls that did not go to the ceiling. Oops did I give away the store, I'm sure other guys reading this know exactly who I'm talking about. My point is at this stage of the game for me, this diamond is what I'm looking & paying dearly for. A crazy game indeed!! Cheaper than golfI agree with everything stated above. I'm actually going to check out some places tomorrow and report back in, let you guys know what I find. Before I make the drive over, is RR still closed? I usually visit Eden and you-Relax in Cary.
NCHobbyist69
12-04-14, 13:13
Stumbled upon one of my ATFs "Amy" over there recently. A+++ massage, great attitude, HE, just all around fantastic relaxing hour. Recommend.
This post raises some interesting points, there are 3 kinds of massage establishments IMHO, 1. Legit ain't nothing going to happen. 2. the Walmart HE store many post saying the same thing IN, FLIP, HJ, TIP, OUT and I agree these places can get loud, mechanical and demanding. 3. Then there are the diamonds in the rough which can be expensive to find but boy when you find them and there are some swinging dicks reading this know what I'm talking about. And yes none of us will ever give up who these ladies are. Some are in the NON- Erotic description store. My favorite was at a Cary store but she is gone the reason I can say now. She would fuck, suck and anything else in the store and never ask for anything other than the tip being offered. And this was real tricky in this store because it had those sliding doors and the walls that did not go to the ceiling. Oops did I give away the store, I'm sure other guys reading this know exactly who I'm talking about. My point is at this stage of the game for me, this diamond is what I'm looking & paying dearly for. A crazy game indeed!! Cheaper than golfNo you didn't give away anything. There are several locations with the sliding doors and walls that don't go to the top in cary. You lucky dog, I wonder how many other ladies that give that same service that we don't know about.
This post raises some interesting points, there are 3 kinds of massage establishments IMHO, 1. Legit ain't nothing going to happen. 2. the Walmart HE store many post saying the same thing IN, FLIP, HJ, TIP, OUT and I agree these places can get loud, mechanical and demanding. 3. Then there are the diamonds in the rough which can be expensive to find but boy when you find them and there are some swinging dicks reading this know what I'm talking about.Currently and locally the 3 categories apply. The 4th are establishments where diamond service is standard and reasonable. In the past locally this was Greensboro. Today one has to typically journey to the big cities to have choices in #4.
Vicechairman
12-05-14, 10:52
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/got-blonde/17628923
Thanks,
Currently and locally the 3 categories apply. The 4th are establishments where diamond service is standard and reasonable. In the past locally this was Greensboro. Today one has to typically journey to the big cities to have choices in #4.Yep, my trip to L. A. Ca. Introduced nothing but 4's.
Visited Cary Atsu and must say, the massage there is still fantastic. Excellent firm pressure (which is what I like) and she ensured I left happy. I have visited a few other places recently and not sure why. This place never lets me down. Team that with the location (which I like) it is officially listed as my 'go to' place. The professional was thin and cute (maybe upper 20's) with great technique. Received the entire hour with no rushing for. 7.
One thing I noticed since my last visit there is a table shower. Not sure if I just haven't noticed it in the past or if this is in fact a new addition.
Cheers!
Thresh.
Toy Soldier
12-05-14, 13:39
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/got-blonde/17628923
Thanks,I can't recall exactly where (somewhere on USASG though. May have been in a personal messsge) but she was a "Go".
Anyone have info on this one?? Looks hot.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/stress-busting-nude-or-lingeriebody-to-body-nuru/18028333
I think she is the same one.Does anyone know how to get in touch with Sunny? Looks like Lotus has been closed for a while. Wondering where she went. PM me if you have any intel.
The new place is open now-haven't had a chance to go yet.
The new place is open now-haven't had a chance to go yet.Yep, the backpage ad is up as well. http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/relaxation-new-asian-massage-at-rtp-opening-now-919-206-1555-hwy-40-exit-278/19134431.
Was in Cary today and thought I'd give Yucca a try since I read that it was under new ownership. I was pleasantly surprised. Girl greets me at the door short, long hair, very cute face probably late 30's, be cup, great body.
Took me to the room, good massage, a little talkative but was all good. Flirty personality. Spent most of the time sitting on my ass massaging my back. FLIP goes straight for the pole, asked her to remove top, she said you have tip for me I said of course. Really no haggling she didn't ask how much tip, she pulls off top bra on and pulls down pants (underwear up) well hell yea now we're talking. While she was stroking I was sucking nipples and fingering the wet place, She likes to moan and kind of talk dirty in the ear like come on baby cum, that sort of talk. Works for me. Of course I pushed the ol can I get some head or FS but no dice just an erotic HJ. $60 door $60 tip. But she really was playful and really sweet with a sense of humor like to laugh. English better than most. Give JoJo a try if you want to mix it up a little from your regular spot I think you will like her.
On my way out another girl sitting at the desk a little taller and younger very pretty not sure what her stats are.
HeyGuys2006
12-06-14, 10:28
A little googling makes me pretty sure she borrowed that pic from someone else. Any one want to TOFTT?
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/got-blonde/17628923
Thanks,
HeyGuys2006
12-06-14, 10:29
I drove by the other day and it was closed so I'm happy to know it is open now. I will try and get there this week.
Yep, the backpage ad is up as well. http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/relaxation-new-asian-massage-at-rtp-opening-now-919-206-1555-hwy-40-exit-278/19134431.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/mmmmpressive-body-rub-amazing-beauty-full-body-to-body-sensual/18988203
Not the girl in the photo!
Not a girl!
Stay away!!Maria from backpage is the same girl I quoted above. Big black "MAN" in tights who will not let you leave if you go into its hotel room.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/incredibly-talented-mariahighly-requested-my-nuru-magic-touch/19117496
Funny enough someone else had the same experience as me. http://eccie.net/showthread.php?p=1055720903.
I'm starting to get old and my memory fails me at times. Is this the same Jen (Genny) that used to give massages at the nail salon in Cary?
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-relax-with-jen/19068115
I'm sure I remember her posting this ad or similar looking one when she started hosting at her spot.This is her. I saw her ad she only posts on Saturdays and at the end of the day she deletes her ad. I accidently came to her in Brier creek, she has a apartment and now she is providing massages in a small thong so her prices went up. I personally thought her prices were very low before.
I think she said 140/ or 100/45 mn 80/30 mn.
She still looks pretty good, I think better than right before she stop. Only thing is she only works on Saturdays, so good luck guys.
Member #5370
12-06-14, 11:20
Was in Cary today and thought I'd give Yucca a try since I read that it was under new ownership. I was pleasantly surprised. Girl greets me at the door short, long hair, very cute face probably late 30's, be cup, great body.
Took me to the room, good massage, a little talkative but was all good. Flirty personality. Spent most of the time sitting on my ass massaging my back. FLIP goes straight for the pole, asked her to remove top, she said you have tip for me I said of course. Really no haggling she didn't ask how much tip, she pulls off top bra on and pulls down pants (underwear up) well hell yea now we're talking. While she was stroking I was sucking nipples and fingering the wet place, She likes to moan and kind of talk dirty in the ear like come on baby cum, that sort of talk. Works for me. Of course I pushed the ol can I get some head or FS but no dice just an erotic HJ. $60 door $60 tip. But she really was playful and really sweet with a sense of humor like to laugh. English better than most. Give JoJo a try if you want to mix it up a little from your regular spot I think you will like her.
On my way out another girl sitting at the desk a little taller and younger very pretty not sure what her stats are.Was the wet spot actually wet down there? Normally when I FIV, it's pretty dry.
I drove by the other day and it was closed so I'm happy to know it is open now. I will try and get there this week.Did try it yesterday. The girl Wendy is very friendly and gave an above average massage. But that's about it, just massage, nothing else. The owner is an Asian guy, and seems to be strict on what the girls can offer. BTW, it is $70 for the hour with no table shower. TS is an additional 20.
jobobtheclown
12-06-14, 16:43
I'm going to be a little vague in my review since they're new and as far as I can tell, there's only one girl working there, so I don't want to get her or the place in trouble. That said, I had a very good time, similar to what you might expect from other places in the area like Atsu or Eden. Mid-to-late-30's, cute, not shy, and eager to make a good impression. Excellent massage skills.
Was $90 for 1 hour w / table shower. Relatively nice facilities, and rooms have walls to the ceiling and closing doors.
In short, it's not a new experience for the area, but nonetheless an excellent addition to what's already available.
Tried Yucca today. Funny, I've lived in Cary for a while and have tried most of them, and had heard of Yucca but didn't actually know where it was. Not sure why I hadn't tried it before. Walked in was greeted by an late 30/ early 40's lady in a tank top, short shorts, and flip flops. She also had great legs, which I'm sure is why she was in short shorts. I can't remember her name, but I want to say she said Toni. Ended up being the only person in there initially, the other girls were watching TV in a back room, but they weren't distracting. Asked if I wanted it soft or medium, without an option for hard, although I told her to do it as hard as she could and laughed. I do believe she tried to do the massage as hard as she could, but it wasn't on the same level as some of the other ladies at other places. Similar experience to XHippie. Long time sitting and massaging my back, flipped over, some teasing, and then stroking. Pants didn't come off but nips were out and FIV was on the menu. Left very happy, tipped $60 and she was actually really happy about the tip and gave me a hug and told me I better come see her next time. Not sure I will, but it was worth an adventure there.
Was in Cary today and thought I'd give Yucca a try since I read that it was under new ownership. I was pleasantly surprised. Girl greets me at the door short, long hair, very cute face probably late 30's, be cup, great body.
Took me to the room, good massage, a little talkative but was all good. Flirty personality. Spent most of the time sitting on my ass massaging my back. FLIP goes straight for the pole, asked her to remove top, she said you have tip for me I said of course. Really no haggling she didn't ask how much tip, she pulls off top bra on and pulls down pants (underwear up) well hell yea now we're talking. While she was stroking I was sucking nipples and fingering the wet place, She likes to moan and kind of talk dirty in the ear like come on baby cum, that sort of talk. Works for me. Of course I pushed the ol can I get some head or FS but no dice just an erotic HJ. $60 door $60 tip. But she really was playful and really sweet with a sense of humor like to laugh. English better than most. Give JoJo a try if you want to mix it up a little from your regular spot I think you will like her.
On my way out another girl sitting at the desk a little taller and younger very pretty not sure what her stats are.
I drove by the other day and it was closed so I'm happy to know it is open now. I will try and get there this week.I attempted to visit today. Showed up without an appointment. Went in, door bell chimed. No one came up front. Waited a few minutes. Still no one came up front. Went back out to my car and called number. A guy answered so I asked about making an appointment. Was told an appointment time was available in 20 minutes. Since this is a new place and I was already there, my curiosity made it worth the wait. So I waited in parking lot till my appointment time. I never saw any one exit the building. Time came for appointment so I went back in. Again, door bell chimed. No one came up front. I waited another 15 minutes inside past my appointment time, still no one came up front. I went back out to my car and waited another 5 minutes. No one came out. So I left. I never saw the guy that answered the phone when I was inside. He sounded American not Asian on the phone. I believe this location may have same ownership as Westgate. The text of some of their adds are identical. I have always had good service at Westgate. Perhaps since it is new they are just really busy, but like I said before, I never saw anyone inside or exiting the building. As usually YMMV. Perhaps someone else has had better luck than I did on first visit.
Opie.
Member #5370
12-06-14, 19:55
Alright, been keeping intel to myself because I was worried about the secrecy of this forum for members. Don't want to ever divulge my identity for fear of getting into shit. But the latest string of posts on UTR / Category 3 stores has really peaked my interest. I know I can't get any intel without adding value to this forum, and so far most of my posts have been questions, so here goes. And look, I know nobody is going to explicitly share details of where to go and which girl to see. I get that. My intent is more to build value on here in exchange for PM tips that could point me in the right direction ie. Where generally to start, where generally to avoid. I know I still have to do the legwork myself, but I'd prefer not to go on expensive wild goose chases. And yes, I know jimjim's list is out there, but we all know that is merely a list delineating places as either category 1 or 2. Moreover, it's possible based on what has been dscussed there, that some places that are stereotypically category 1 have UTR potential.
So, my first review is of Atsu Cary.
Went there Wednesday night. Obviously heard good things about it.
Walked in and was a little bit disappointed to be met by two older ladies in their late 40's / early 50's. Let's just say I am the same ethnicity as them and thus feel I'm a better estimator of age than guys on here. Asian women age well, so from a non-asian lens they might seem like late 30's. I was already there, so I took one of the "girls" there. Name was Lisa (I think). She was rather tubby, but not too fat, and okay face that would have been better in her youth. Problem was she was wearing sweat pants and a t-shirt. Not the outfit you would expect from a category 2 or 3. I was a bit worried, but given the mountain of evidence of atsu cary as a sure thing for category 2, I went ahead. Agreed to a table shower. Not bad, she paid some attention to junior.
Got a massage for full hour. Okay massage, nothing special. Some otc roaming while she is massaging me, and she seemed to enjoy it. At the very least, she laughed and didn't move away. On the flip, HE, UTC roaming, and FIV. HE technique was meh, and FIV was pretty dry. But her knockers were pretty massive and the kind I liked. Some sucking action there.
I may or may not return depending on my intelligence gathering decisions. One thing I noticed was that the place had doors that could lock. Reminiscent of RR in that regard and evocative of category 3 potential. But given that all hints by more experienced posters indicate that, for the time being, ATSU is a solid category 2, I am not getting my hopes up.
On the way out saw a pretty decent early 30's girl. Felt bad didn't get to with her instead.
I've done my fair share of reviews of places on this board, but you're right. There are ones that I'll never give out! Fun is to be had around here, but it's not going to happen for everyone. It's also not a matter of tipping well, the girl has to be into you for anything to happen. Some of you all seem to think that just because you throw money at them that its going to happen automatically. If you want that go see an escort or a street walker. We all know the AMPs around here aren't going to be like that, but that doesn't mean it can't be had. I've seen some of you mongers out there. Can you honestly say that if you were a girl you'd fuck you? LOL.
This post raises some interesting points, there are 3 kinds of massage establishments IMHO, 1. Legit ain't nothing going to happen. 2. the Walmart HE store many post saying the same thing IN, FLIP, HJ, TIP, OUT and I agree these places can get loud, mechanical and demanding. 3. Then there are the diamonds in the rough which can be expensive to find but boy when you find them and there are some swinging dicks reading this know what I'm talking about. And yes none of us will ever give up who these ladies are. Some are in the NON- Erotic description store. My favorite was at a Cary store but she is gone the reason I can say now. She would fuck, suck and anything else in the store and never ask for anything other than the tip being offered. And this was real tricky in this store because it had those sliding doors and the walls that did not go to the ceiling. Oops did I give away the store, I'm sure other guys reading this know exactly who I'm talking about. My point is at this stage of the game for me, this diamond is what I'm looking & paying dearly for. A crazy game indeed!! Cheaper than golf
Member #5370
12-06-14, 20:49
I ventured to SR Durham off hwy 54 about a week before turkey day. I had caught some good reviews about it being people "new ATF. " Don't know what the fuss is about. I went in, saw the fat mamasan, almost balked in disgust and wanted to leave. I said (and I'm shocked at how offensive I was), "do you have another girl available?" And she said yes. Out came a chick her early 50's. Not much to look at, but not nearly as bad as the mamasan. As always with these places, I accepted that I wasn't going to get any better and went in with a "might as well" attitude.
Chick wore white denim pants (so no real UTC roaming was possible during the massage). Massage was crap. No table shower, but you all already know that. On the flip, simple HE, nothing more. Technique was terrible, like she had no strenght in the forearms. Halfway through I had to finish myself off.
Will not repeat.
Only positive was they also seemed to have doors with locks on them similar to RR.
Also, forgot to mention in my last post, but I am offering to do intel on less known places in exchange for PM tips. I think I can get better intel given my ethnicity.
Stopped by #9, Emily and apparently everyone had the same idea as me. I was told by the man to come back in an hour, they were very busy. There were lots of cars and even one guy sitting in the waiting room.
I didn't have much free time so I went across the street to # 7, Asian Body, and they were not busy at all. I got an awesome massage, so good I tipped. 4. It was super hard, and she worked her at ss off doing it. I mean non stop running around and even breathing heavy while doing it. Anyone who likes a very hard massage, this is your girl, one of the best I've had in a long time. On the flip I got my hands on her a bit, but she was moving so much to massage me that it was difficult. She did massage my belly a bit, but made sure to keep me covered and never got too close. Next thing I know she said it was done. Damn! Its my first time there in a couple years, but I recall last time there was no chance at leaving happy either.
I find it odd that they are both p- on the list. I haven't been to #7 in a long time, but I have never left happy. I have left happy from #9 many times, so its my goto since its pretty close. With the massage quality I got from #7 I will probably go back and hope on the next visit I leave happy. Anyone out there who can confim a "p" rating for #7?
I have been to Youngsville on numerous occasions and have failed to receive FS. I have received happy endings on each occasion but my first. I was wondering what I need to do to achieve my objective and experience FS in an AMP. I have asked them the cost of full service and they always say you know but I don't! I tip forty and refuse to tip more as I only receive HJ and a thirty minute massage.
At the $40 tip level you have more of a chance being abducted in the VIP AMP parking lot by a UFO and getting FS on board.
I have been to Youngsville on numerous occasions and have failed to receive FS. I have received happy endings on each occasion but my first. I was wondering what I need to do to achieve my objective and experience FS in an AMP. I have asked them the cost of full service and they always say you know but I don't! I tip forty and refuse to tip more as I only receive HJ and a thirty minute massage.
I can confirm, but it was a while ago with different visiting staff.
Stopped by #9, Emily and apparently everyone had the same idea as me. I was told by the man to come back in an hour, they were very busy. There were lots of cars and even one guy sitting in the waiting room.
I didn't have much free time so I went across the street to # 7, Asian Body, and they were not busy at all. I got an awesome massage, so good I tipped. 4. It was super hard, and she worked her at ss off doing it. I mean non stop running around and even breathing heavy while doing it. Anyone who likes a very hard massage, this is your girl, one of the best I've had in a long time. On the flip I got my hands on her a bit, but she was moving so much to massage me that it was difficult. She did massage my belly a bit, but made sure to keep me covered and never got too close. Next thing I know she said it was done. Damn! Its my first time there in a couple years, but I recall last time there was no chance at leaving happy either.
I find it odd that they are both p- on the list. I haven't been to #7 in a long time, but I have never left happy. I have left happy from #9 many times, so its my goto since its pretty close. With the massage quality I got from #7 I will probably go back and hope on the next visit I leave happy. Anyone out there who can confim a "p" rating for #7?
At the $40 tip level you have more of a chance being abducted in the VIP AMP parking lot by a UFO and getting FS on board.Good one!
Expect to pay $120-$140 for FS. That being said I have not been to VIP in over 2 years. I doubt they have lowered FS prices.
Stopped by #9, Emily and apparently everyone had the same idea as me. I was told by the man to come back in an hour, they were very busy. There were lots of cars and even one guy sitting in the waiting room.
I didn't have much free time so I went across the street to # 7, Asian Body, and they were not busy at all. I got an awesome massage, so good I tipped. 4. It was super hard, and she worked her at ss off doing it. I mean non stop running around and even breathing heavy while doing it. Anyone who likes a very hard massage, this is your girl, one of the best I've had in a long time. On the flip I got my hands on her a bit, but she was moving so much to massage me that it was difficult. She did massage my belly a bit, but made sure to keep me covered and never got too close. Next thing I know she said it was done. Damn! Its my first time there in a couple years, but I recall last time there was no chance at leaving happy either.
I find it odd that they are both p- on the list. I haven't been to #7 in a long time, but I have never left happy. I have left happy from #9 many times, so its my goto since its pretty close. With the massage quality I got from #7 I will probably go back and hope on the next visit I leave happy. Anyone out there who can confim a "p" rating for #7?My last visit went just like your great massage but left sad. Still gave a tip because the massage was so good. I have been here 6 times and only left happy half the time.
Good one!
Expect to pay $120-$140 for FS. That being said I have not been to VIP in over 2 years. I doubt they have lowered FS prices.When going specifically for FS I always tip $20 at the door, sets the mood for the visit.
Member #5168
12-07-14, 18:05
This is her. I saw her ad she only posts on Saturdays and at the end of the day she deletes her ad. I accidently came to her in Brier creek, she has a apartment and now she is providing massages in a small thong so her prices went up. I personally thought her prices were very low before.
I think she said 140/ or 100/45 mn 80/30 mn.
She still looks pretty good, I think better than right before she stop. Only thing is she only works on Saturdays, so good luck guys.They were crazy low before, under $40 for a half hour if I recall correctly.
I remember wishing she'd do a little more, any chance the menu opened up a bit with the price increase?
jobobtheclown
12-07-14, 18:48
When going specifically for FS I always tip $20 at the door, sets the mood for the visit.That strikes me as a bad idea. Either the money goes to the house, which does you no good, or they think that's the sum total of what you intend to spend, and you get basically nothing. If you really want to pay up front, pay the house, then leave out the tip from the beginning.
That strikes me as a bad idea. Either the money goes to the house, which does you no good, or they think that's the sum total of what you intend to spend, and you get basically nothing. If you really want to pay up front, pay the house, then leave out the tip from the beginning.Each to his own, not really talking specifically about VIP. It varies from place to place. I'm just saying for me personally for a few select places it works. Tried it one time in Spartinburg SC, bam I got FS and ended up with 4 hands in the room. Not that this happens all the time I think I just got real lucky that one time but it gave me something to try. If I have an extra Jackson what the hell, if the Mamasan likes you because you flirt with her or tip her, that's gravy! Sometimes it pays and sometimes it's just as you said it goes to the house.
I ventured to SR Durham off hwy 54 about a week before turkey day. I had caught some good reviews about it being people "new ATF. " Don't know what the fuss is about. I went in, saw the fat mamasan, almost balked in disgust and wanted to leave. I said (and I'm shocked at how offensive I was), "do you have another girl available?" And she said yes. Out came a chick her early 50's. Not much to look at, but not nearly as bad as the mamasan. As always with these places, I accepted that I wasn't going to get any better and went in with a "might as well" attitude.
Chick wore white denim pants (so no real UTC roaming was possible during the massage). Massage was crap. No table shower, but you all already know that. On the flip, simple HE, nothing more. Technique was terrible, like she had no strenght in the forearms. Halfway through I had to finish myself off.
Will not repeat.
Only positive was they also seemed to have doors with locks on them similar to RR.
Also, forgot to mention in my last post, but I am offering to do intel on less known places in exchange for PM tips. I think I can get better intel given my ethnicity.The one that looks like Jackie Chan's mom gives an incredible massage.
The one that looks like Jackie Chan's mom gives an incredible massage.LMAO, hahaha.
Frequent ones at 40/42 clayton often. Girls quality and age getting poor. You can always leave happy but massage is hit and miss and hardly no roaming. Not that you want to. LOL. New one in town on 70 same couple older unattractive ladies from 40/42. It's getting hard to find nice looking friendly staff. If they know they are fine, They act like it and don't want to play. I wish we could get younger flirtier girls. I love skin to skin rubs. That gets little guys attention. Is it just me or are hjs just getting old especially with old gals dressed for walmart and dropping $100+ each visit. I'd just as soon have a good massage for 60 and leave. I also went to new one in knightdale. Ugly gal. Half ass massage. Left happy barely.
Later.
Capn.
Luv Massage
12-08-14, 16:27
There is one girl, at an unnamed location, that talks freely with me. She said that there are so many shops opening up recently that the number of customers per girl per day is taking a major hit at almost all the shops. Apparently, some owners are purposely opening establishments near existing AMPs just to hurt each other's business. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me but I believe her.
My suspicion is that either a price war breaks out or some of the girls will start offering additional services in order to keep or grow their clientele. Time will tell.
If any of you fellow mongers find that the menu is expanding, please share the intel. Personally, I am hoping for a price war. I'd like to pay far less for the massage, then I wouldn't feel so bad about leaving a generous tip.
Vicechairman
12-08-14, 16:32
Visited Yucca Cary #5. Wonderful massage with climbing on table and sitting on butt. Hard and strong. Wonderful nipples available on flip. A little too much makeup and too much "come on baby" for me but all else was lovely.
Was in Cary today and thought I'd give Yucca a try since I read that it was under new ownership. I was pleasantly surprised. Girl greets me at the door short, long hair, very cute face probably late 30's, be cup, great body.
Took me to the room, good massage, a little talkative but was all good. Flirty personality. Spent most of the time sitting on my ass massaging my back. FLIP goes straight for the pole, asked her to remove top, she said you have tip for me I said of course. Really no haggling she didn't ask how much tip, she pulls off top bra on and pulls down pants (underwear up) well hell yea now we're talking. While she was stroking I was sucking nipples and fingering the wet place, She likes to moan and kind of talk dirty in the ear like come on baby cum, that sort of talk. Works for me. Of course I pushed the ol can I get some head or FS but no dice just an erotic HJ. $60 door $60 tip. But she really was playful and really sweet with a sense of humor like to laugh. English better than most. Give JoJo a try if you want to mix it up a little from your regular spot I think you will like her.
On my way out another girl sitting at the desk a little taller and younger very pretty not sure what her stats are.
Moon Raker
12-08-14, 21:02
So, I didn't quite get it out of my system after an okay visit to Milan. I thought I'd see what everyone was talking about with #5. I am positive I got another girl because this one did not sit on me at all. The massage was about the weakest thing ever. I get more pleasure off a foam roller. On the plus, it was 60 (next time get the HH) and she was friendly with plenty of roaming, tits and fiv on the flip--but was told that was the extent of the menu. I added 10 to the normal 40, because I was happy with a bit better than standard menu and technique once flipped.
On another note, I get what people are talking about when they say other mongers can be too noisy. I concur. However, to expound on that, I prefer to lean up to their ear and whisper as opposed to talk. I think they appreciate it and will talk with you more that away. It also helps with the mood as opposed to hear another guy say, "Oh Yes, been here before-many times. ".
I do wish the location was not quite as open as the other options around the specific area.
There is one girl, at an unnamed location, that talks freely with me. She said that there are so many shops opening up recently that the number of customers per girl per day is taking a major hit at almost all the shops. Apparently, some owners are purposely opening establishments near existing AMPs just to hurt each other's business. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me but I believe her.
My suspicion is that either a price war breaks out or some of the girls will start offering additional services in order to keep or grow their clientele. Time will tell.
If any of you fellow mongers find that the menu is expanding, please share the intel. Personally, I am hoping for a price war. I'd like to pay far less for the massage, then I wouldn't feel so bad about leaving a generous tip.I remember posting something similar on this topic awhile back after I got back from L. A. Last year. I spent about a week in the San Gabriel area. The average price for 1 hour about $25 plus tip. The girls there were a bit younger than here. There were a few Korean joints that had ladies in their 40's and 50's that didn't look that bad that would fuck your brains out for $100 and not ask for a tip. There were so many stores there I would have had to been there a few months to figure out what each one was about. They had some legit places also. But your typical massage and HJ would cost about $50 total that's tip included. And yes they throw in a free table shower if they have them. And FS could probably be found way cheaper than the $100 if you know where to go and were a regular. One thing that is also big there is girls will work in the store a few days then work out of their apartment the days they are not in the store because there are so many girls there they are part time in the store. It's an Asian pussy paradise if that's your thing. Back to the point of the post, are we headed for these prices and service here. I don't see it happening in other areas this size, maybe NY. I don't know will have to wait and see.
Flockshepherd
12-09-14, 12:49
Thanks. I was way off. Unfortunately the link is already dead so I guess I won't be TOFTT.OMG!! I contacted Jen and it really is Genny from the nail salon. She hasn't changed a bit. Apparently some fool ruined everything by stalking her and generally making a nuisance of himself and Genny had to go UTR for awhile. The link is back up.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-relax-with-jen/19180994
Call and schedule an appointment. She'll be booked up before you know it!! For those unfortunate few who don't remember Genny she is absolutely first class. And I mean that in the best possible way.
Moon Raker
12-09-14, 21:04
OMG!! I contacted Jen and it really is Genny from the nail salon. She hasn't changed a bit. Apparently some fool ruined everything by stalking her and generally making a nuisance of himself and Genny had to go UTR for awhile. The link is back up.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-relax-with-jen/19180994
Call and schedule an appointment. She'll be booked up before you know it!! For those unfortunate few who don't remember Genny she is absolutely first class. And I mean that in the best possible way.The link is down, could you let us know another way to contact her on here or via PM, thanks.
The one that looks like Jackie Chan's mom gives an incredible massage.She is great at working the knots out of my back. Very strong hands. The HE. Ehh. Not so good. Lucy.
The older one, not as good with the massage, more of a relaxing sensual body rub but can give a hell of a hand job. Tina.
Supposedly there is a third girl that is there at times that is super cute. I have caught just a glimpse of her a few times. No Idea on name or skill. Have never managed to get her in a room. But I am usually going there to get some relief for a chronic back issue I have. So Lucy is my usual. Just wish I could figure out how to say more on the head, less on the shaft!
OMG!! I contacted Jen and it really is Genny from the nail salon. She hasn't changed a bit. Apparently some fool ruined everything by stalking her and generally making a nuisance of himself and Genny had to go UTR for awhile. The link is back up.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-relax-with-jen/19180994
Call and schedule an appointment. She'll be booked up before you know it!! For those unfortunate few who don't remember Genny she is absolutely first class. And I mean that in the best possible way.You got digits?
Flockshepherd
12-10-14, 09:20
You got digits?For all those fellow mongers who sent me PMs this is the rest of story. Genny got a day job after her unfortunate experience with the weirdo. She still has the day job so she is only able to do massages a couple of days a week at the present time. She posts on the days she's working and her phone number is included in the post. She takes the BP post down when she is finished working for the day. How wonderfully thoughtful. But that's Genny. A genuine delight.
Anyone been to Apex on Duraleigh? That used to be quietly dependable with the old crew (Niko, Ceecee, etc), but the last time I stopped in it was all a bunch of Aunties and I haven't returned. Speaking of Aunties, about the same time (4 weeks ago) I tried out what was then the relatively new place on Six Forks / Millbrook. Nothing to look at, but great customer service.
I was on Capital today and on a whim decided to end my drought. Called Massage Emily since I was close, but they were booked for the next hour – bummer!
Against my better judgment (and past reviews) I then stopped in at Holly Tree, since I was in the area, to see if there was anything / anyone interest. I was greeted by an older lady (Che-Che?) - nice enough, but not really interesting. I said "no thanks" and started to walk out. She quickly calls to the back and up runs another lady. Not necessarily a looker, but nice, younger and sorta tall / athletic looking (Nina). Should have been out the door by then, but instead heard myself saying in a half hearted manner. "ok, one hour".
Seventy bucks later I'm face down and waiting. Door opens and a nice strong massage starts right away. Feels good, but I'm sorta mad at myself because I'm stuck there and really not that into it. My mind is wandering, and at some point I realize that the massage on my leg has gotten pretty rhythmic and one-handed. You know, than feeling when you know they are reading a text on their phone. So I turn to look, and who do I see? Che-Che, the original older lady that I graciously declined earlier! You can imagine how this went. I asked "what happened? And suddenly her English is much worse. In other words it went nowhere.
I flip and she sends the other girl in to finish the massage. Of course there is no familiarity at this point. She tries to make small talk and rubs my head for what seems like forever. I just want to leave and she can tell, so things pick up a little on the front-side massage. Some teasing led to OTC roaming, and then it becomes clear it's headed toward self service. I say no thanks and ask that we just wrap things up. I give her credit for not wanting an unhappy customer – she jumped in with a mechanical and predictable ending and cleanup.
I got dressed and gave her $20 for half a massage. Didn't see Che-Che on my way out and will never see Holly Tree again.
For all those fellow mongers who sent me PMs this is the rest of story. Genny got a day job after her unfortunate experience with the weirdo. She still has the day job so she is only able to do massages a couple of days a week at the present time. She posts on the days she's working and her phone number is included in the post. She takes the BP post down when she is finished working for the day. How wonderfully thoughtful. But that's Genny. A genuine delight.Has she expanded her menu any. Hella cute but just a HJ and some ChiChi kisses were all that was available before. Nice for the price she was asking but I would kill for those lips to be put to good use and to taste that little chorizo wallet.
CaptianJack
12-11-14, 02:36
I had the pleasure of visiting both places in the past week and I have to say left happy both times. But they are two different beasts. The room and pre-flip at ATSU was far superior to Yucca. Plenty of light teasing and a damn fine massage. But the added benefits at Yucca make up for it after the flip. I saw Apple at ATSU (25-30 ish, body / face are both a 6) but I didn't catch the girl at Yucca's name (35-40 ish, body / face was a 5. 5). When I hit Yucca, there was a younger girl but someone beat me too her. I might try again but I'm a little put off by walls that don't reach the ceiling. Damage was the same in both. 6 for the house, . 6 on tip.
Ruff and Ready
12-11-14, 06:58
So I called and said I wanted to see L* L*. She is the same girl I've been seeing the last few visits. During my last visit there was some light roaming allowed with her shirt pulled up and pants pulled down. This time I wanted more so I offered her a $ tip up front. On the flip I got to kiss the really firm medium cantaloup sized tops. Moving south I could tell she was having a good time as I lightly stroked her. What amazed me the most was that she was so tight I barley could get a finger inside let alone two or more and here I was thinking of fisting this girl. No FS, and no BJ but for this old man it was a great time and worth the extra cash. As always, YMMV.
OMG!! I contacted Jen and it really is Genny from the nail salon. She hasn't changed a bit. Apparently some fool ruined everything by stalking her and generally making a nuisance of himself and Genny had to go UTR for awhile. The link is back up.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-relax-with-jen/19180994
Call and schedule an appointment. She'll be booked up before you know it!! For those unfortunate few who don't remember Genny she is absolutely first class. And I mean that in the best possible way.Is this the genny that used to do this out of her apartment on Duraleigh road?
Some status updates and add #37 as always YMMV. Had to change the code for difficult to a "C" since the system keeps changing the "D" to "the" Red Rose closed, Asian Remedy added.
P+ 1) Superrelax Chinese Spa 2223 J highway NC 54 (I40 Exit 278) Durham NC 27713 919-248-9000.
P+ 2) Massage Atsu Cary 102-L Commonwealth Court Cary NC (919) 388-8889.
I 3) Superrelax Good Luck 7313 Six forks Road Raleigh NC. (919) 844-7776. Reported closed redirect to #9.
I 4) Bonnie Spa 10421 Ligon Mill Road Wake Forest NC 27587 (919) 717-5873. Closed.
P 5) Yucca also uses Orient Salon 124 SW Maynard Road, # A Cary. NC 27511 (919) 741-4072.
P- 6) Apex Massage Spa 5623 Duraleigh Road, Suite 131. (919) 781 4888.
C. 7) Asian Body Massage & Therapy 3672 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27604.919-878-1666.
P- 8) Oriental Body Massage 6320 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27616 (919) 871-3117.
P- 9) Emily China Spa 3601 Capital blvd #111 Raleigh NC 27604 919-872-2223.
E 10) Asian Massage 1373 SE Maynard Road, Cary NC 27511.919-741-6078.
P+ 11) Studio Salon Massage 922 NE Maynard Road Cary NC 27513 919-388-1177.
P 12) Massage Atsu Garner 40 East Exit 312 Garner NC (919) 329-0090.
I 13) LePapillon Spa also goes by other names 108 Wind Chime, Raleigh, NC 919-268-5810. Closed.
C. 14) Green Health Massage 11216-114 Capital Blvd, Wake Forest NC 27587 (Next to Wal. Mart) 919-554-4780. No TS.
C. 15) Sunrise Bodycare 1869 Lake Pine DR. Cary, NC 27511 919-234-1208.
P+ 16) Eden Spa 2436 SW Cary Parkway Cary, NC. 27513 919-377-2607.
C. 17) Canaan Massage 6300 Creedmoor Road Suite 186, Raleigh, NC 27612 919-848-3299.
E 18) VIP ASIAN SPA Weathers Ct Youngsville NC 27596 919) 570-5060.
C. 19) Keep Healthy Massage Sutton Square 6325 Falls of the Neuse Road. Suite 9 Raleigh NC 27615 919-501-7773. No TS.
P+ 20) SuperRelax (X Asia Massage) 548 Huffman Mill Road, Burlington NC Right off 85&40 Exit 141 336-270-6547.
I 21) Joy Spa 9101 Leesville Road. Raleigh NC Pinecrest Point Plaza #165,919-771-8290 or 919-870-9556. Closed.
I. 22) Red Rose Spa 2310 South Miami Blvd, Suite 133, Durham, NC 27703 919-564-9688. Closed.
P- 23) Suncity Spas Massage 2891 Jones Franklin Road, Raleigh NC 919-348-2410.
P- 24) MiMi Massage 137 O'Neal St. Burlington, NC 27215 336-395-8971.
P- 25) SuperRelax 5533 Hwy 42 West, Unit A-12 Garner NC 919-779-9937.
P+ 26) Asian Relax Center 6405 Westgate Rd, Unit 125 , Raleigh NC 919 881 8489.
P+ 27) Asian Massage 2110 South Miami Blvd, Durham NC. 919-717-6726.
P+ 28) Holiday Spa 154 Morrisville Square Way, Morrisville NC 27560 919-377-2786 & 919-370-6490.
P+ 29) "you-Relax Spa" 750-the East Chatham Street, Cary NC 27511.919-378-9364.
P+ 30) Touch of Asia 811 E. Williams Street Apex NC 919 387-8282.
P- 31) 1 + 1 Hair Salon Day Spa 1286 Buck Jones Road Cary NC (919) 633-5831.
P+ 32) Eastern Spa 800 West Williams Street #152 Apex NC 919-372-8233.
P 33) T&W Oriental Spa 101 Forest Drive Knightdale NC 919-752-6388.
C. 34) Oriential Massage 5416 Six Forks Road Reilgh NC 919-846-9999.
C. 35) Ocean Care Spa 6400 #203 Falls of Neuse Raleigh NC 919-527-3126.
P. 36) Lotus 1606 K North Market Drive Rielgh NC 27609 919 307-3220.
P. 37). Asian Remedy unit E, 5410 Hwy 55 Durham NC 919 206-1555
Letter code.
I is for impossible.
C is for difficult.
P is for possible + or minus Gives a better indication. YMMV.
E easy.
Livinitinva
12-11-14, 15:44
I 27) Asian Massage 2110 South Miami Blvd, Durham NC. 919-717-6726.
2110 South Miami Blvd is also closed currently.
I don't know if it is permanent or just for the winter due to little / no heat in the house.
It has been closed for at least a couple of weeks now.
Went yesterday. Drew JoJo older lady with shorts and no real figure. Complained about how tired she was the whole time and asking about tip. I just opted to not flip and told her keep rubbing. I gave her $15 tip for nothing and she was pissed about that. These women are getting way to cocky for a rub and tug. There massages are getting lazy. Its getting old. I get one or two a week from all around here and its getting where I'd rather have a legitimate massage than put up with older gals thinking they deserve big tips for a HJ. Half of them don't want you to touch them. HJS alone with nothing to see or touch is getting old. Ill just take the massage.
Thanks I thought it was temporary due to the temperature, I'll fix on the next list if they don't reopen. But it brings up a good point that one of the prime reasons for the list is that you should call before you go. Sometimes even open AMPs will close early or take a day off.
I 27) Asian Massage 2110 South Miami Blvd, Durham NC. 919-717-6726.
2110 South Miami Blvd is also closed currently.
I don't know if it is permanent or just for the winter due to little / no heat in the house.
It has been closed for at least a couple of weeks now.
#38. Asian Massage Health 11490 US 70 Bus. Hwy W, Clayton, NC, 27520.
Tel: 919-243-0678.
Map is updated with ratings changes, change in rating letter from the to see, added #37 and removed #22 RR.
http://batchgeo.com/map/77b62e745fbdbc6daf3a47d09797297c
Some status updates and add #37 as always YMMV. Had to change the code for difficult to a "C" since the system keeps changing the "D" to "the" Red Rose closed, Asian Remedy added.
P+ 1) Superrelax Chinese Spa 2223 J highway NC 54 (I40 Exit 278) Durham NC 27713 919-248-9000.
P+ 2) Massage Atsu Cary 102-L Commonwealth Court Cary NC (919) 388-8889.
I 3) Superrelax Good Luck 7313 Six forks Road Raleigh NC. (919) 844-7776. Reported closed redirect to #9.
I 4) Bonnie Spa 10421 Ligon Mill Road Wake Forest NC 27587 (919) 717-5873. Closed.
P 5) Yucca also uses Orient Salon 124 SW Maynard Road, # A Cary. NC 27511 (919) 741-4072.
P- 6) Apex Massage Spa 5623 Duraleigh Road, Suite 131. (919) 781 4888.
C. 7) Asian Body Massage & Therapy 3672 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27604.919-878-1666.
P- 8) Oriental Body Massage 6320 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27616 (919) 871-3117.
P- 9) Emily China Spa 3601 Capital blvd #111 Raleigh NC 27604 919-872-2223.
E 10) Asian Massage 1373 SE Maynard Road, Cary NC 27511.919-741-6078.
P+ 11) Studio Salon Massage 922 NE Maynard Road Cary NC 27513 919-388-1177.
P 12) Massage Atsu Garner 40 East Exit 312 Garner NC (919) 329-0090.
I 13) LePapillon Spa also goes by other names 108 Wind Chime, Raleigh, NC 919-268-5810. Closed.
C. 14) Green Health Massage 11216-114 Capital Blvd, Wake Forest NC 27587 (Next to Wal. Mart) 919-554-4780. No TS.
C. 15) Sunrise Bodycare 1869 Lake Pine DR. Cary, NC 27511 919-234-1208.
P+ 16) Eden Spa 2436 SW Cary Parkway Cary, NC. 27513 919-377-2607.
C. 17) Canaan Massage 6300 Creedmoor Road Suite 186, Raleigh, NC 27612 919-848-3299.
E 18) VIP ASIAN SPA Weathers Ct Youngsville NC 27596 919) 570-5060.
C. 19) Keep Healthy Massage Sutton Square 6325 Falls of the Neuse Road. Suite 9 Raleigh NC 27615 919-501-7773. No TS.
P+ 20) SuperRelax (X Asia Massage) 548 Huffman Mill Road, Burlington NC Right off 85&40 Exit 141 336-270-6547.
I 21) Joy Spa 9101 Leesville Road. Raleigh NC Pinecrest Point Plaza #165,919-771-8290 or 919-870-9556. Closed.
I. 22) Red Rose Spa 2310 South Miami Blvd, Suite 133, Durham, NC 27703 919-564-9688. Closed.
P- 23) Suncity Spas Massage 2891 Jones Franklin Road, Raleigh NC 919-348-2410.
P- 24) MiMi Massage 137 O'Neal St. Burlington, NC 27215 336-395-8971.
P- 25) SuperRelax 5533 Hwy 42 West, Unit A-12 Garner NC 919-779-9937.
P+ 26) Asian Relax Center 6405 Westgate Rd, Unit 125 , Raleigh NC 919 881 8489.
P+ 27) Asian Massage 2110 South Miami Blvd, Durham NC. 919-717-6726.
P+ 28) Holiday Spa 154 Morrisville Square Way, Morrisville NC 27560 919-377-2786 & 919-370-6490.
P+ 29) "you-Relax Spa" 750-the East Chatham Street, Cary NC 27511.919-378-9364.
P+ 30) Touch of Asia 811 E. Williams Street Apex NC 919 387-8282.
P- 31) 1 + 1 Hair Salon Day Spa 1286 Buck Jones Road Cary NC (919) 633-5831.
P+ 32) Eastern Spa 800 West Williams Street #152 Apex NC 919-372-8233.
P 33) T&W Oriental Spa 101 Forest Drive Knightdale NC 919-752-6388.
C. 34) Oriential Massage 5416 Six Forks Road Reilgh NC 919-846-9999.
C. 35) Ocean Care Spa 6400 #203 Falls of Neuse Raleigh NC 919-527-3126.
P. 36) Lotus 1606 K North Market Drive Rielgh NC 27609 919 307-3220.
P. 37). Asian Remedy unit E, 5410 Hwy 55 Durham NC 919 206-1555
Letter code.
I is for impossible.
C is for difficult.
P is for possible + or minus Gives a better indication. YMMV.
E easy.
Luv Massage
12-11-14, 19:47
JimJim,
Next time you update your list, you might consider changing the rating for Lotus Massage to "I" from "P" unless they re-open. Haven't seen any signs of life there. I do drive by occasionally as it is in my neck of the woods.
I 27) Asian Massage 2110 South Miami Blvd, Durham NC. 919-717-6726.
2110 South Miami Blvd is also closed currently.
I don't know if it is permanent or just for the winter due to little / no heat in the house.
It has been closed for at least a couple of weeks now.I think I saw a for rent sign in front of the place the other day.
jobobtheclown
12-11-14, 21:12
JimJim,
Next time you update your list, you might consider changing the rating for Lotus Massage to "I" from "P" unless they re-open. Haven't seen any signs of life there. I do drive by occasionally as it is in my neck of the woods.I'm not sure what you're implying: that you're more likely to get an HE from a homeless vagrant squatting in the remains of their establishment than you were when they were open?
Luv Massage
12-11-14, 21:44
I'm not sure what you're implying: that you're more likely to get an HE from a homeless vagrant squatting in the remains of their establishment than you were when they were open?If you re-read JimJim's list, he has most of the closed establishments rated as "I" and marked "closed" at the end of the listing. Just seems that Lotus deserves the same fate.
I was a little sloppy on this update and I was fighting the spell checker. It was changing "U" to "you" and "d" to "the". It also kept adding line breaks. So I got more concerned about the changes it was making rather than the content. Hopefully I'll do better on the next update. Even missed #38 on the 1st pass which was one of the reasons for the update. All in all the spell checker and editor are good but has some quirks.
If you re-read JimJim's list, he has most of the closed establishments rated as "I" and marked "closed" at the end of the listing. Just seems that Lotus deserves the same fate.
I was a little sloppy on this update and I was fighting the spell checker. It was changing "U" to "you" and "d" to "the". It also kept adding line breaks. So I got more concerned about the changes it was making rather than the content. Hopefully I'll do better on the next update. Even missed #38 on the 1st pass which was one of the reasons for the update. All in all the spell checker and editor are good but has some quirks.Jim Jim, thanks for this updated list even with you fighting the spell checker, line breaks and all the other issue you had it is still a great tool and much appreciated by this Monger.
Thanks for the support. Thanks to Skillet for the map and everyone else who contributes to the list. I've thought about having a version that just shows active locations without changing the numbers, which the last time I replaced numbers it caused some confusion. Let me work on it after all the comments come in. It will make it much shorter without losing the history.
Jim Jim, thanks for this updated list even with you fighting the spell checker, line breaks and all the other issue you had it is still a great tool and much appreciated by this Monger.
Went to T&W in Knightdale to check it out. Not to many reviews lately. When I got there I was greeted by middle aged lady. Couple of more ladies sitting around. She says 1 hour and pointed to the back room. Since none of the girls were to my taste I took 30 for. 4. Not a bad massage maybe a 6 but not really what I was expecting. Looks like ladies that don't have looks would have to have something going for them. Well after she massaged me from shoulders to feet she says finished, I thought really.
I gave her. 2 tip and left unhappy. I noticed on JimJim's list that it is somewhat possible. 98% of the time I leave happy from other places I've been, they can all look at me and tell I'm not affiliated with anyone's Uncle LEO. Was wondering if it makes a difference there between half to full hour. Anyone have any input. Leave comment or inbox.
Made a visit to Holiday spa last night. Think I was the only one there when I arrived. Very cute girl greeted me. Asked for a hard massage and she delivered. Prob best massage I've had at an AMP. Worked my back and arms thoroughly and when working the legs was just as strong but with some nice teasing and sensuality. On flip went right to work on the big guy with combined with a nice prostate massage. Asked her name when we were done and said her name was Amy. Second time I've been there and like the first, did not disappoint. Plenty of OTC roaming and also some under the bra play as well. Finished the massage on the front of my legs after the clean. Highly recommend.
Request for info on this Jen / Genny.
I tried a PM to original poster, no response.
How would one recognize her ad on BP? There was a Jen ad claiming to be hispanic this am?
I get a need for discretion kind of desired here so PM preferred.
Spaceball1
12-13-14, 15:25
I recently made my first ever visit to Holiday Spa, and could not be happier with the experience. Opted for a one hour massage with TS. The cost was 70. The therapist was a a very attractive 40-ish woman. Decided to go with the TS first. On the flip during the TS, she soaped me up and went straight to work on a happy beginning. I asked if she would take her top off, but she said no, so I settled for some UTC roaming. She also started going for a prostate massage, but I am not into that, so I asked her to stop, and she politely obliged.
The massage was one of the better ones I have had. I asked for medium pressure, and she did a great job with that. She got all the knots out without leaving me sore at all. She cleaned the oil off with a hot towel. On the flip, there was some massage on my chest and thighs with light teasing, and then she started with the HE. I was too pooped to pop a second time, so I stopped her after a few minutes, but her technique was great. She even licked my nipples as she tried to get me off. I had asked her again if she would remove her top, but she indicated something about being seen by someone else. I guess she meant someone could walk in, or could see through the door. Got another clean up with a hot towel. As I was getting dressed, she brought me a small bottle of water. I tipped. 60, which is high, but all things considered, I think it was fair.
Overall, the service is great at Holiday. Definitely, one of the better experiences out there.
Member #5370
12-13-14, 16:08
I recently made my first ever visit to Holiday Spa, and could not be happier with the experience. Opted for a one hour massage with TS. The cost was 70. The therapist was a a very attractive 40-ish woman. Decided to go with the TS first. On the flip during the TS, she soaped me up and went straight to work on a happy beginning. I asked if she would take her top off, but she said no, so I settled for some UTC roaming. She also started going for a prostate massage, but I am not into that, so I asked her to stop, and she politely obliged.
The massage was one of the better ones I have had. I asked for medium pressure, and she did a great job with that. She got all the knots out without leaving me sore at all. She cleaned the oil off with a hot towel. On the flip, there was some massage on my chest and thighs with light teasing, and then she started with the HE. I was too pooped to pop a second time, so I stopped her after a few minutes, but her technique was great. She even licked my nipples as she tried to get me off. I had asked her again if she would remove her top, but she indicated something about being seen by someone else. I guess she meant someone could walk in, or could see through the door. Got another clean up with a hot towel. As I was getting dressed, she brought me a small bottle of water. I tipped. 60, which is high, but all things considered, I think it was fair.
Overall, the service is great at Holiday. Definitely, one of the better experiences out there.I don't see how this is P++ other than she is giving you attention during TS. Lots of places do that.
The reports on this forum seem to be inflating my expectations for these places, and thus I end up disappointed. The usual suspects seem to be just that. HE with some roaming by a 40+ lady. More places popping up, yes, but currently seeing no signs of market-induced expanded menus.
Member #5370
12-13-14, 17:12
Alright, I'm getting the feeling the usual suspects are getting pretty standard in terms of service. I'm talking about places like Yucca, Atsu, Eden. Not much more ROI in terms of intel can be found.
Someone name a place. Any place. That they have not yet tried and there isn't much intel on on this board. I will try it out, provided you give a short reason, and report back.
Spaceball1
12-13-14, 22:21
I don't see how this is P++ other than she is giving you attention during TS. Lots of places do that.
The reports on this forum seem to be inflating my expectations for these places, and thus I end up disappointed. The usual suspects seem to be just that. HE with some roaming by a 40+ lady. More places popping up, yes, but currently seeing no signs of market-induced expanded menus.The extra "+" is for the multiple shots, including prostate massage, without me having to ask for any of it, or even having to negotiate a tip upfront. Not sure what is so hard to understand about that. Also, the ratings system that JimJim came up with isn't set in stone. It's based off of what other users have experienced and shared in their reports. Honestly, I was just having some fun with the title of my report by rating it P++. Maybe you should try posting more reports instead of criticizing how others share their info. Just a thought.
Holiday is a special place. 3 out of the 4 girls there are special and do first and ask later if it's Ok. I don't claim to be the most active here but I do see some extras slipping in due to the increased competition. It's way better than it was at most places. We did of course lose some of the real players due to a few idiots who didn't play like they should have. And the girls left town.
The extra "+" is for the multiple shots, including prostate massage, without me having to ask for any of it, or even having to negotiate a tip upfront. Not sure what is so hard to understand about that. Also, the ratings system that JimJim came up with isn't set in stone. It's based off of what other users have experienced and shared in their reports. Honestly, I was just having some fun with the title of my report by rating it P++. Maybe you should try posting more reports instead of criticizing how others share their info. Just a thought.
Member #5370
12-13-14, 22:52
The extra "+" is for the multiple shots, including prostate massage, without me having to ask for any of it, or even having to negotiate a tip upfront. Not sure what is so hard to understand about that. Also, the ratings system that JimJim came up with isn't set in stone. It's based off of what other users have experienced and shared in their reports. Honestly, I was just having some fun with the title of my report by rating it P++. Maybe you should try posting more reports instead of criticizing how others share their info. Just a thought.Your clarification is on point. My mistake.
However, I don't see any reason why reasonable criticism is something to be so sensitive about. It's simply a lack of opinion. At the end of the day, this forum is just a place for us to provide as much information about the AMP market as possible, and the more information, discussion, and debate out there, the more complete of a picture we can get to each make informed decisions.
Also, I don't see why a difference of opinion requires more posts. I post reviews only when they offer some kind of additional information or insight into the market that we don't already know about. Repeating the same x, why, and z about a place and girl that everybody else has raved about doesn't add more credibility to the poster in my eyes.
jobobtheclown
12-13-14, 23:09
I recently made my first ever visit to Holiday Spa, and could not be happier with the experience. Opted for a one hour massage with TS. The cost was 70. The therapist was a a very attractive 40-ish woman. Decided to go with the TS first. On the flip during the TS, she soaped me up and went straight to work on a happy beginning. I asked if she would take her top off, but she said no, so I settled for some UTC roaming. She also started going for a prostate massage, but I am not into that, so I asked her to stop, and she politely obliged.
The massage was one of the better ones I have had. I asked for medium pressure, and she did a great job with that. She got all the knots out without leaving me sore at all. She cleaned the oil off with a hot towel. On the flip, there was some massage on my chest and thighs with light teasing, and then she started with the HE. I was too pooped to pop a second time, so I stopped her after a few minutes, but her technique was great. She even licked my nipples as she tried to get me off. I had asked her again if she would remove her top, but she indicated something about being seen by someone else. I guess she meant someone could walk in, or could see through the door. Got another clean up with a hot towel. As I was getting dressed, she brought me a small bottle of water. I tipped. 60, which is high, but all things considered, I think it was fair.
Overall, the service is great at Holiday. Definitely, one of the better experiences out there.Based on recommendations in posts and PMs, I saw Amy at Holiday. I wasn't impressed. She's cute, but the massage was outright painful and she wore clothes that purposefully rendered UTC roaming impossible. I've spoken in favor of Holiday before, and it's still probably the best bet in terms of general quality if you don't know who to ask for (Eden in particular has some auntie landmines), but there's more to be had at other places in the area if you know names.
Starliner63
12-13-14, 23:59
I have tried to stay away for the AMPs lately, but had a wild hair last night. I decided to try #34 on the list, since it was pretty close to work. I was directed to a room by a short chunky woman, already regretting my visit. She took my cash and called for another girl to do my massage. She looked to be in her mid-40's and was decent looking. A little pooch, but not too bad. After letting her know what I wanted, which was an hour massage with a shower at the end, I got undressed and laid on the table. Her massage was pretty good, finding some rough spots that needed work. As we got close to the end, she started teasing quite a bit, asking if it was ok. On the flip, she put her finger to her lips telling me to be quiet and whispered to me, "no trouble". I agreed to no trouble and she proceeded to give me a better than average finish. OTC roaming was allowed and encouraged. The table shower was very good, making sure everything was clean. Not too bad of a night. PM for her name. $70.00 for the massage and shower and. 4 for the tip.
Seems to be about the only place I go anymore LOL. Went in around 7 pm, place was dead, but a new girl came up and greeted me. I for the life of me can't remember her name, but she's hot! Apparently she also got he memo that short shorts, tank tops, and flip flops are the way to go. I asked for a 4 hand and she led me back to the room with the back walking things on the wall. Called the other girl in and they got started shortly after I undressed. I thought I had seen the other girl before but couldn't remember for sure, asked her name when the hot one left later to get the towels and she goes "I saw you with Lucy not long ago". Ah yes, now I remember. But she did say the other girl was brand new and asked if I liked. After the flip the hot one left to clean up and I started talking to apple about how I had never had my back walked on and she very excitedly tells me to flip back over, jumps up there, and goes at it for the next 20 minutes. I was in heaven. It felt amazing. At one point she said that most guys can't handle (obviously its more forceful than a regular hand massage) and asked if I was ok. I could barely make a noise LOL. They laughed at me and asked if I wanted to take a nap after the massage. Good stuff, I'll have to get my back walked on everytime I go!
Seems to be about the only place I go anymore LOL. Went in around 7 pm, place was dead, but a new girl came up and greeted me. I for the life of me can't remember her name, but she's hot! Apparently she also got he memo that short shorts, tank tops, and flip flops are the way to go. I asked for a 4 hand and she led me back to the room with the back walking things on the wall. Called the other girl in and they got started shortly after I undressed. I thought I had seen the other girl before but couldn't remember for sure, asked her name when the hot one left later to get the towels and she goes "I saw you with Lucy not long ago". Ah yes, now I remember. But she did say the other girl was brand new and asked if I liked. After the flip the hot one left to clean up and I started talking to apple about how I had never had my back walked on and she very excitedly tells me to flip back over, jumps up there, and goes at it for the next 20 minutes. I was in heaven. It felt amazing. At one point she said that most guys can't handle (obviously its more forceful than a regular hand massage) and asked if I was ok. I could barely make a noise LOL. They laughed at me and asked if I wanted to take a nap after the massage. Good stuff, I'll have to get my back walked on everytime I go!Lucy is a great back walker, had her before. I went there about a month ago and saw Lilli who I've always passed on because she just didn't seem like she would be strong enough to get the kinks out. She was humming the whole time and it was very soothing but massage was more light strokes and butthole teasing than actual massage. On the flip she was churning butter for a while and it just wasn't happening. All of a sudden she went down and started a BBBJ and that did the trick and I came all over her hands (no cim). It was more of a light head licking and no deep throat. When it was over she was giggling and asked me not to tell anyone and how that was the first time she ever did that in the last four years she's been in the business. I think I believe her and I just got lucky as it was a Friday night and I was last of the night about 10 pm. I went back about a week ago and she wasn't there was told she was in ny so I left.
JohnBoyFv88
12-14-14, 17:32
#12 is never a disappointment. I first mustard up the courage to go in my first AMP back in April and I've been back any chance I get. I've been to #12 on the list multiple times and I always leave satisfied. But, this past Thursday was the best time I've had yet. I was the last and only one in there that night and I got a royal massage and HE. Before the flip I was on all fours getting edged by from the back and getting some ass play. When I flipped she let me feels the girls up while the finished the job and I finished hard and big. It was mind-blowing so to speak. I'm ready for a repeat of that night, just wish I could've gotten some FS that night!
The extra "+" is for the multiple shots, including prostate massage, without me having to ask for any of it, or even having to negotiate a tip upfront. Not sure what is so hard to understand about that. Also, the ratings system that JimJim came up with isn't set in stone. It's based off of what other users have experienced and shared in their reports. Honestly, I was just having some fun with the title of my report by rating it P++. Maybe you should try posting more reports instead of criticizing how others share their info. Just a thought.So you are right that the plus / minus system isn't set in stone. At the same time we all understand that Uncle and Mamasan are all reading here. So we don't want to ruin anything for any of the girls. To that end plus / minus is simply and indication of how easy it is to get a happy ending on the massage. Benefits outside of that aren't covered in the rating.
If we were in Tampa, San Fran, New York or such places, we'd have entirely different discussions. This is actually a very active forum for the region, I travel a lot for work and check out the other regions and not many are this active. There is a ton of useful information going on. You can get more info by being active in the community.
Luv Massage
12-14-14, 20:07
I have tried to stay away for the AMPs lately, but had a wild hair last night. I decided to try #34 on the list, ... better than average finish. Starliner, are you sure it was #34? JimJim has it rated as see for difficult. Yours is the first report of success.
JimJim, I think the name of #34 is "Colony", not "Oriental".
Starliner63
12-14-14, 21:35
In the Colony shopping center next to Food lion. I was surprised also.
Starliner, are you sure it was #34? JimJim has it rated as see for difficult. Yours is the first report of success.
JimJim, I think the name of #34 is "Colony", not "Oriental".
FunTimes12
12-15-14, 10:00
Hey guys.
I have been an extremely long time lurker and just really getting into the game here. I live in Fay area but very very slim pickings down here. A couple decent indie private residence incall locations but that's about it.
My most common stop is number 12 in Garner. I've stopped there a hand full of times and have always left happy. Never a single disappointment. I do not know the names but there was one 40's provider with an amazing rack. OTC roaming and attention to ass and the boys on pre and post flip. She was stunning. The last visit there the girls wasn't as cute but she tried to please a little more. She went to work hard on the pole when I flipped and even nibbled and licked my nipples. Strange but I enjoyed. She was wearing a lower cut shirt and allowed some under the bra roaming. Again, I have never been disappointed there and probably visited 5-6 times in last 3 months.
My last visit was to number 6 I believe. Apex of Duraleigh. I was in town and looking for a stress relief. Well I just pulled up the list and started looking for places closest to me. Shit I should have driven further away. I saw it was rated as a P so I thought surely I could leave with a smile. She was older and had none of it to go near my boys. Place was nice, actual massage was nice, but I'm not going to somewhere like that for a massage, I want the ending.
One thing I'm curious about. I normally opt for the hour massage and TS, but I don't really care about the back rub. Do you guys do 30 minutes to focus on the flip and a TS or what's the normal method. And I'm also tempted by the location where you saw younger hot girls. Its been a while since I've seen a younger hot masseuse.
In the Colony shopping center next to Food lion. I was surprised also.Pehaps I wasn't very clear in an earlier review, but a HE has been available there. The talent just wasn't that special when it opened.
BigWillyWill
12-15-14, 19:30
Stopped by the Super Relax (superrelaxraleigh.com) today. Didn't see a review anywhere, but it was close and convenient. The provider was older, probably early 40's, nothing special. The massage was not bad, she had strong hands and climbed up on the table to really work it. She did step out a couple of times to answer questions from the other girl that was there. Didn't have to ask for the HE, even being a first-timer there. Table shower room was a little cold. Probably won't go back.
Spaceball1
12-17-14, 00:07
Your clarification is on point. My mistake.
However, I don't see any reason why reasonable criticism is something to be so sensitive about. It's simply a lack of opinion. At the end of the day, this forum is just a place for us to provide as much information about the AMP market as possible, and the more information, discussion, and debate out there, the more complete of a picture we can get to each make informed decisions.
Also, I don't see why a difference of opinion requires more posts. I post reviews only when they offer some kind of additional information or insight into the market that we don't already know about. Repeating the same x, why, and z about a place and girl that everybody else has raved about doesn't add more credibility to the poster in my eyes.My bad. I got a little defensive with my response. Please accept my apology.
For all you balk walker addicts, Vivi is back at Oriental on Capital and her feet are as good as ever!
Been to yucca, not sure what's her name, started with massage 35+ woman, while she was doing massage.
I was rubbing her thighs, no objection, HJ good one, nde for extra. 6, total dmge $. 2 , 1 hr message. 6 + . 6 for extra.
Only nde and let you touch and HJ. Will repeat. You have to tell will give tip and she asks for. 6 , massage is okey.
Good one, good luck guys.
Been to yucca, not sure what's her name, started with massage 35+ woman, while she was doing massage.
I was rubbing her thighs, no objection, HJ good one, nde for extra. 6, total dmge $. 2 , 1 hr message. 6 + . 6 for extra.
Only nde and let you touch and HJ. Will repeat. You have to tell will give tip and she asks for. 6 , massage is okey.
Good one, good luck guys.Is "nde" supposed to be nude?
Went yesterday. Drew JoJo older lady with shorts and no real figure. Complained about how tired she was the whole time and asking about tip. I just opted to not flip and told her keep rubbing. I gave her $15 tip for nothing and she was pissed about that. These women are getting way to cocky for a rub and tug. There massages are getting lazy. Its getting old. I get one or two a week from all around here and its getting where I'd rather have a legitimate massage than put up with older gals thinking they deserve big tips for a HJ. Half of them don't want you to touch them. HJS alone with nothing to see or touch is getting old. Ill just take the massage.When I was there, on the way out I spotted a younger taller girl sitting at the front desk. Anyone have any Intel on this one?
Name? Extras offered? Can PM me if not want to post. Thanks!
Is "nde" supposed to be nude?Correct, only topless.
For all you balk walker addicts, Vivi is back at Oriental on Capital and her feet are as good as ever!Glad to hear she's back.
Seriously fella's if you want a great massage and one hell of a back walk go see her and take the plunge and do 90 minutes. Warning she can press pretty hard with those little feet especially on the arms and calve area's. This is a great massage so don't expect anything in the HE area. If a HE is what you are after take your cash to where this forum has indicated you can score. Me personally sometimes I just need a great massage. Now all this said I don't know anything about the other ladies there or what they offer. This is just my opinion what Vivi has to offer.
Glad to hear she's back.
Seriously fella's if you want a great massage and one hell of a back walk go see her and take the plunge and do 90 minutes. Warning she can press pretty hard with those little feet especially on the arms and calve area's. This is a great massage so don't expect anything in the HE area. If a HE is what you are after take your cash to where this forum has indicated you can score. Me personally sometimes I just need a great massage. Now all this said I don't know anything about the other ladies there or what they offer. This is just my opinion what Vivi has to offer.You are right, I didn't leave "happy", but she is funny and makes you feel great so I left very pleased. I have left happy there from others, but Emily is more of a sure deal for the Capital AMPs.
Workaholic1976
12-19-14, 17:07
Saw apple, in terms of non FS he, among the best massages I've ever had including my time in Thailand. I'm not into the back walking, this was medium strength long strokes, very sensual.
Stay safe.
Work.
Decided to relieve some stress at a local AMP, and Holiday was nearby. I've had great times in the past with Amy (young, short hair, tight little body) and was hoping to find her. Sadly not, but a sweet 30/40 lady greeted me, so I decided to stay and relax. TS was nice, very sensual and playful. Back in the room, nice firm massage, with some OTC roaming allowed. On the flip, started right at the pole. Sadly, under her jeans shorts and tank top she was wearing a full length body stocking. Turns out she walks home so was extra prepared for the cold with layers. Made UTC roaming impossible and wasn't open to removal. Lots of "shhh" motions when I'd ask quietly. Applied lots of soft wet kisses to my chest, tummy, near the boys, but never further. Offered more tipping but declined with "shhh's" and smiles. Despite a few times where she was a bit too aggressive (no need to choke and try to break in half, hunny) I erupted hard some in her hair. She cleaned me up, and finished massage. After returning with my water, she patted my crotch and said "next time, maybe more. " I smiled, and handed her 30 for tip. She looked a little sad, and I patted her ass saying "next time, maybe more. ".
Stand firm, gents. These ladies know what they're doing, and as others have noted, overtipping for simple HE will discourage other menu options to appear. Best of luck, and be smart out there.
FunTimes12
12-21-14, 15:56
Went to Cary atsu the other day. Was a decent massage from Kathy maybe. I couldn't tell the name. She was older than what I hoped for but she was very hands on. I went for half hour and TS. Started with TS and she soaped up everything and a little teasing my ass and boys.
The massage was ok. I sometimes don't know why I ever lay on mt stomach, as I'm more interested in what happens on the flip. This lady had to do some work on me to get me to finish but she was a trooper. Worked hard and treated me greatly. It was one of the more pleasurable HE's I've ever had. I don't know where else to try around here in the area. Really want to find some younger looking asian girls. God I love asian chicks.
Any one tried this one? She goes with name Sind; Email: nawtybodyrub at hotm.
http://www.escortexam.com/eyqam8fv
She is only does in day time Monday to Friday, by evening her adv will be gone and morning it will popup.
Some one please share if you tried? Appreciate your feedback.
Thanks.
MD Bellamy
12-22-14, 00:13
Decided to relieve some stress at a local AMP, and Holiday was nearby. I've had great times in the past with Amy (young, short hair, tight little body) and was hoping to find her. Sadly not, but a sweet 30/40 lady greeted me, so I decided to stay and relax. TS was nice, very sensual and playful. Back in the room, nice firm massage, with some OTC roaming allowed. On the flip, started right at the pole. Sadly, under her jeans shorts and tank top she was wearing a full length body stocking. Turns out she walks home so was extra prepared for the cold with layers. Made UTC roaming impossible and wasn't open to removal. Lots of "shhh" motions when I'd ask quietly. Applied lots of soft wet kisses to my chest, tummy, near the boys, but never further. Offered more tipping but declined with "shhh's" and smiles. Despite a few times where she was a bit too aggressive (no need to choke and try to break in half, hunny) I erupted hard some in her hair. She cleaned me up, and finished massage. After returning with my water, she patted my crotch and said "next time, maybe more. " I smiled, and handed her 30 for tip. She looked a little sad, and I patted her ass saying "next time, maybe more. ".
Stand firm, gents. These ladies know what they're doing, and as others have noted, overtipping for simple HE will discourage other menu options to appear. Best of luck, and be smart out there.Congratulations! Your response to her gambit was perfect. We should all reply in a similar fashion.
Any one tried this one? She goes with name Sind; Email: nawtybodyrub at hotm.
http://www.escortexam.com/eyqam8fv
She is only does in day time Monday to Friday, by evening her adv will be gone and morning it will popup.
Some one please share if you tried? Appreciate your feedback.
Thanks.Looks like her ratings are terrible. Mayde someone has already TOFT.
Looks like her ratings are terrible. Mayde someone has already TOFT.She has been reviewed on this site before. More escort than masseuse. Her massage consist of rubbing lotion on your back. She is a big girl that has lost a lot of weight so she has flabby and flappy skin. The whole time she is going to call you daddy like you are transported back to the 1920's. Nice girl but not my thing. Goggle the email address for photos.
Lookin Good
12-22-14, 10:07
Any one tried this one? She goes with name Sind; Email: nawtybodyrub at hotm.
http://www.escortexam.com/eyqam8fv
She is only does in day time Monday to Friday, by evening her adv will be gone and morning it will popup.
Some one please share if you tried? Appreciate your feedback.
Thanks.I tried to give her a chance way back. She is only available when her ad is up and that varies from day to day. She doesn't schedule in advance and if the ad isn't up you won't even get a response. I don't chase anyone to take my money so she's off the list.
Any one tried this one? She goes with name Sind; Email: nawtybodyrub at hotm.
http://www.escortexam.com/eyqam8fv
She is only does in day time Monday to Friday, by evening her adv will be gone and morning it will popup.
Some one please share if you tried? Appreciate your feedback.
Thanks.Dude,
I tried her quite awhile back. Nice incall locale (providing you are in or near Cary). Honestly, that was all that was 'attractive' about the encounter with her. Not bad, but not great either. The haggle for a 'tip' afterwards sealed the deal as a non-repeat for me.
As stated, don't expect any massage here; this is FS from start to finish.
Cheers!
Thresh.
SlantedLights
12-22-14, 12:47
Decided to relieve some stress at a local AMP, and Holiday was nearby. I've had great times in the past with Amy (young, short hair, tight little body) and was hoping to find her. Sadly not, but a sweet 30/40 lady greeted me, so I decided to stay and relax. TS was nice, very sensual and playful. Back in the room, nice firm massage, with some OTC roaming allowed. On the flip, started right at the pole. Sadly, under her jeans shorts and tank top she was wearing a full length body stocking. Turns out she walks home so was extra prepared for the cold with layers. Made UTC roaming impossible and wasn't open to removal. Lots of "shhh" motions when I'd ask quietly. Applied lots of soft wet kisses to my chest, tummy, near the boys, but never further. Offered more tipping but declined with "shhh's" and smiles. Despite a few times where she was a bit too aggressive (no need to choke and try to break in half, hunny) I erupted hard some in her hair. She cleaned me up, and finished massage. After returning with my water, she patted my crotch and said "next time, maybe more. " I smiled, and handed her 30 for tip. She looked a little sad, and I patted her ass saying "next time, maybe more. ".
Stand firm, gents. These ladies know what they're doing, and as others have noted, overtipping for simple HE will discourage other menu options to appear. Best of luck, and be smart out there.I've been lurking here for awhile but after reading this post I had to register so I could reply:
BAM! What a great response! That's the kind of response I always think of much later and think "I should have done that!
Did you happen to catch the name? First time I went to Holiday I dropped 30 and got the sad face too. I caved and added 10. Second time I dropped 40 and again got the sad face (same girl). She asked if I couldn't do 50. I said no 50 is all I have.
jobobtheclown
12-22-14, 18:17
Decided to relieve some stress at a local AMP, and Holiday was nearby. I've had great times in the past with Amy (young, short hair, tight little body) and was hoping to find her. Sadly not, but a sweet 30/40 lady greeted me, so I decided to stay and relax. TS was nice, very sensual and playful. Back in the room, nice firm massage, with some OTC roaming allowed. On the flip, started right at the pole. Sadly, under her jeans shorts and tank top she was wearing a full length body stocking. Turns out she walks home so was extra prepared for the cold with layers. Made UTC roaming impossible and wasn't open to removal. Lots of "shhh" motions when I'd ask quietly. Applied lots of soft wet kisses to my chest, tummy, near the boys, but never further. Offered more tipping but declined with "shhh's" and smiles. Despite a few times where she was a bit too aggressive (no need to choke and try to break in half, hunny) I erupted hard some in her hair. She cleaned me up, and finished massage. After returning with my water, she patted my crotch and said "next time, maybe more. " I smiled, and handed her 30 for tip. She looked a little sad, and I patted her ass saying "next time, maybe more. ".
Stand firm, gents. These ladies know what they're doing, and as others have noted, overtipping for simple HE will discourage other menu options to appear. Best of luck, and be smart out there."Walks home"? I was under the impression they lived at the shop until their time was up and they went back to NY. Those who know the girls better: am I wrong? Do they show up like a normal job?
Most live in a house or shared apartment within walking distance. Only a few actually live at an AMP. Some have cars and live with a SO.
Some live close but alone or with a "friend".
Raleigh is like a lot of places where the girls are not bound to an AMP but can be independent if they have good English and money. I. e. Not in servitude. Lots of time they start up their own AMP if they have the money and English skills.
Without skills or money they will be moved by the AMP OWNER till they can go on their own or hook a customer SD or husband.
"Walks home"? I was under the impression they lived at the shop until their time was up and they went back to NY. Those who know the girls better: am I wrong? Do they show up like a normal job?
Most live in a house or shared apartment within walking distance. Only a few actually live at an AMP. Some have cars and live with a SO.
Some live close but alone or with a "friend".
Raleigh is like a lot of places where the girls are not bound to an AMP but can be independent if they have good English and money. I. e. Not in servitude. Lots of time they start up their own AMP if they have the money and English skills.
Without skills or money they will be moved by the AMP OWNER till they can go on their own or hook a customer SD or husband.JimJim's right, either way the living conditions of most of these girls are fare to poor to say the least. Those of us that have been behind the scenes with these girls know. If they are in a apartment it is usually shared with many other girls as well as the bath kitchen fridge etc. And there is no furniture Imagine sharing your space with 4 or 5 people you have just put in a 12 hour day with everyday. When they sleep in the store, their bed is usually the same hard ass table we get our HJ's on. And they spend the night in the place they have been all day how fast would that take to get old. Most of these girls don't drive so they can't go anywhere unless the owner takes them which is usually to buy food once a week. And by the way where they sleep is not free they pay rent. I know the first thought is hey they choose this profession and some are making some decent cash that said, treat these girls with some respect even if you are calculating how much tip to give or not to give. Respect is free, and if a girl really likes you she will be more than happy to treat you well and possibly want to give you her phone number just so she can get the hell out of the store for a few hours. It's not all about the tips
SlantedLights
12-23-14, 00:15
JimJim's right, either way the living conditions of most of these girls are fare to poor to say the least. Those of us that have been behind the scenes with these girls know. If they are in a apartment it is usually shared with many other girls as well as the bath kitchen fridge etc. And there is no furniture Imagine sharing your space with 4 or 5 people you have just put in a 12 hour day with everyday. When they sleep in the store, their bed is usually the same hard ass table we get our HJ's on. And they spend the night in the place they have been all day how fast would that take to get old. Most of these girls don't drive so they can't go anywhere unless the owner takes them which is usually to buy food once a week. And by the way where they sleep is not free they pay rent. I know the first thought is hey they choose this profession and some are making some decent cash that said, treat these girls with some respect even if you are calculating how much tip to give or not to give. Respect is free, and if a girl really likes you she will be more than happy to treat you well and possibly want to give you her phone number just so she can get the hell out of the store for a few hours. It's not all about the tipsWell this kind of makes me sad. It definitely puts a new perspective on the hobby. I guess in my head I had convinced myself that this was so far removed from sex slavery and that these girls just really love pleasing guys. But thinking about it from this angle makes me feel guilty for participating.
Dude,
I tried her quite awhile back. Nice incall locale (providing you are in or near Cary). Honestly, that was all that was 'attractive' about the encounter with her. Not bad, but not great either. The haggle for a 'tip' afterwards sealed the deal as a non-repeat for me.
As stated, don't expect any massage here; this is FS from start to finish.
Cheers!
Thresh.Thanks everyone for their good feedback.
Luv Massage
12-23-14, 13:31
Well this kind of makes me sad. It definitely puts a new perspective on the hobby. I guess in my head I had convinced myself that this was so far removed from sex slavery and that these girls just really love pleasing guys. But thinking about it from this angle makes me feel guilty for participating.I have spoken at length with one of the girls from a local AMP. According to her, many of these girls feel a strong obligation (responsibility) to their family back in China. They go to Western Union regularly and send most of their money to parents and / or siblings. Many do not enjoy giving HE, they do it so that they will get better tips so that they have more money to send home. They aren't buying fancy clothes, luxury cars, expensive jewelry. They are providing support for their families.
Ever since I found out, I have tried to tip for non-HE at a rate of about $10 per half hour. Then I give some extra when a HE is offered, but I don't push too hard. Most of us know where HE is normally given without question so that is where we go when that is what we want. If I go somewhere else, I let the girls decide on the level of service they want to provide and tip accordingly.
Bottom line: don't feel guilty. They know what they are doing. Their motivation is just not what you might otherwise expect.
I have spoken at length with one of the girls from a local AMP. According to her, many of these girls feel a strong obligation (responsibility) to their family back in China. They go to Western Union regularly and send most of their money to parents and / or siblings. Many do not enjoy giving HE, they do it so that they will get better tips so that they have more money to send home. They aren't buying fancy clothes, luxury cars, expensive jewelry. They are providing support for their families.
Ever since I found out, I have tried to tip for non-HE at a rate of about $10 per half hour. Then I give some extra when a HE is offered, but I don't push too hard. Most of us know where HE is normally given without question so that is where we go when that is what we want. If I go somewhere else, I let the girls decide on the level of service they want to provide and tip accordingly.
Bottom line: don't feel guilty. They know what they are doing. Their motivation is just not what you might otherwise expect.Exactly, my point was not to feel sorry or guilty, just be respectful. It's supply and demand at work.
Went to atsu today and was told that the hot girl (eva) has left, for good. Damn, I just missed her by a whisker. Another monger was 10 seconds ahead of me and got the hottie. She asked if I can wait for 30 minutes and I promised I will be back looking for her the next time, and now she is in NYC and probably will never be back. As for the reason, the girl I had today told me "she is not making as much money as she expected".
Seems to be about the only place I go anymore LOL. Went in around 7 pm, place was dead, but a new girl came up and greeted me. I for the life of me can't remember her name, but she's hot! Apparently she also got he memo that short shorts, tank tops, and flip flops are the way to go. ...
jobobtheclown
12-24-14, 12:08
Went to atsu today and was told that the hot girl (eva) has left, for good. Damn, I just missed her by a whisker. Another monger was 10 seconds ahead of me and got the hottie. She asked if I can wait for 30 minutes and I promised I will be back looking for her the next time, and now she is in NYC and probably will never be back. As for the reason, the girl I had today told me "she is not making as much money as she expected".And THAT would be the true result of those trying to drive tip prices down. It's not a closed system, guys; tip generously.
And THAT would be the true result of those trying to drive tip prices down. It's not a closed system, guys; tip generously.Tip prices or volume will never be as much as it is in new york. In this area when a girl gets 40 extra that's pretty good. When she goes beyond the call of duty then she should get more, like the now retired red rose ladies use to do. Tips are not free.
Joe Looking
12-24-14, 17:57
And THAT would be the true result of those trying to drive tip prices down. It's not a closed system, guys; tip generously.I would argue that lower tips can actually lead to better service. Because of the culture in the US a certain tip is often the expectation without quality of service to go along with it. If the standard tip decreases then those who do more will get more. I've also found that a lot of people in the sex trade don't make as much as they though they would or they feel they would deserve.
Just my opinion.
I would argue that lower tips can actually lead to better service. Because of the culture in the US a certain tip is often the expectation without quality of service to go along with it. If the standard tip decreases then those who do more will get more. I've also found that a lot of people in the sex trade don't make as much as they though they would or they feel they would deserve.
Just my opinion.It would be nice if there was a simple cut and dry answer to the tip debate, tip more get more pleasure and keep the girls that deliver the goods here? Tip less until their bottom financial line starts to suffer then they start offering more to stay in business?
Like Forest Gump said, it's probably a little bit of both happening at the same time. Fella's this is a fairly new business in this area trying to sort itself out on what to offer us guys. It's mostly Chinese now around here, if the Koreans or Hispanics start up its a whole new ball game. I don't know the answer but I do know as far as what to tip for me at least it has come down to what relationship I have established with certain stores and certain girls. If no relationship is there it's the standard tip that has been set by the majority. My 2 cents.
jobobtheclown
12-25-14, 22:19
I would argue that lower tips can actually lead to better service. Because of the culture in the US a certain tip is often the expectation without quality of service to go along with it. If the standard tip decreases then those who do more will get more. I've also found that a lot of people in the sex trade don't make as much as they though they would or they feel they would deserve.
Just my opinion.I would agree in a closed system. But the best talent tends to be highly mobile; how often has a girl "gone back to New York" because she wasn't making enough here? I fear that trying to starve out the girls to increase competition and service will only result in a stymied influx of new masseuses, and ultimately, less parlors and less competition.
I would agree in a closed system. But the best talent tends to be highly mobile; how often has a girl "gone back to New York" because she wasn't making enough here? I fear that trying to starve out the girls to increase competition and service will only result in a stymied influx of new masseuses, and ultimately, less parlors and less competition.The talent situation already is very bad. I went one time to Holiday and I just tapped out of mongering at AMPs here since I moved here a few months ago. Wasn't a bad experience, just way less than stellar. For that similar amount of money, I could have way more fun with better talent.
As for AMP market here, I think a lot more money (to the providers and any maybe police) would have to be poured in to make talented AMP providers come here. It's not the lack of tips, it's the lack of income and the crackdowns that happen at places that offer extras. It's the bible-belt. Lower income for most clientele, and the righteous locals will not tolerate these places operating as brothels. Just looking at the typical income for mongers here is, I don't see why mobile providers would want to work here. Maybe learn the ropes or something here, but definitely move onto where the volume of mongers, tips and upsells (extras) are allowed.
jobobtheclown
12-26-14, 19:38
On a less controversial note, the last time I went to Super Relax on 54/55 was about a year ago, and there was nothing to be had. I dropped by today and found it much more enjoyable.
Went to Yucca last week.
1 hour with Lisa $60 door, tip $40.
Short dress, thong (nice) roaming allowed everywhere standard rub & tug. No FS on the menu she says the owner is very strict about NO FS. Apparently they have the feeling FS is what is shutting the other places down. I got the vibe she wanted to but was paranoid.
On a less controversial note, the last time I went to Super Relax on 54/55 was about a year ago, and there was nothing to be had. I dropped by today and found it much more enjoyable.Put in some time with them to get response. But once you are established it is ok. Nothing like RR used to be, but better therapeutic massage is available there too.
The talent situation already is very bad. I went one time to Holiday and I just tapped out of mongering at AMPs here since I moved here a few months ago. Wasn't a bad experience, just way less than stellar. For that similar amount of money, I could have way more fun with better talent.
As for AMP market here, I think a lot more money (to the providers and any maybe police) would have to be poured in to make talented AMP providers come here. It's not the lack of tips, it's the lack of income and the crackdowns that happen at places that offer extras. It's the bible-belt. Lower income for most clientele, and the righteous locals will not tolerate these places operating as brothels. Just looking at the typical income for mongers here is, I don't see why mobile providers would want to work here. Maybe learn the ropes or something here, but definitely move onto where the volume of mongers, tips and upsells (extras) are allowed.Has the power to determine a lot of what goes on. We share info and feedback on providers and it causes shifts in the economics of the staffs and hence changes the behaviours of the girls. For example, Studio Salon. Once Wendy and Coco left we all reported the lowering of quality and what was available. And that place is suffering for such.
I agree the tips got out of hand for a bit. That was mostly due to and at Red Rose. But things have normalized a lot and that is due to us saying so. And as long as we reward the girls that provide the better service without attitude it will continue to improve.
Took a trip to westgate road and was met my wendy. She's not a knockout or anything special but had a good time. Paid. 7 at the door. She seemed to act like she knew me and maybe I've seen her before but I honestly couldn't remember. Massage was below average but she offered a second release which I gladly allowed. Sweet girl and because of the holiday spirit I gave. 6 as a tip. She was super excited and couldn't stop thanking me and wanted to make sure when I come back to remember her name is wendy. It's nice when they don't harass you for tips and are genuinely excited with what you offer them.
It looks like T&W massage in knightdale is now closed. A shame they had the best prices around 50 for the hour. They were only open for about six months.
I don't known if its for good or a temp type of thing.
AMPs The Short List.
Numbers keept the same to avoid confusion.
All "I" and "C" rated APMs removed except Number 7 because of the Back Walking. Several AMPs upgraded.
Corrections and debate welcome.
Hopfully this will save time for most.
P+ 1) Superrelax Chinese Spa 2223 J highway NC 54 (I40 Exit 278) Durham NC 27713 919-248-9000.
P+ 2) Massage Atsu Cary 102-L Commonwealth Court Cary NC (919) 388-8889.
P+ 5) Yucca also uses Orient Salon 124 SW Maynard Road, # A Cary. NC 27511 (919) 741-4072.
P- 6) Apex Massage Spa 5623 Duraleigh Road, Suite 131. (919) 781 4888.
"C" 7) Asian Body Massage & Therapy 3672 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27604.919-878-1666. But great Back Walking.
P- 8) Oriental Body Massage 6320 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27616 (919) 871-3117.
P- 9) Emily China Spa 3601 Capital blvd #111 Raleigh NC 27604 919-872-2223.
E 10) Asian Massage 1373 SE Maynard Road, Cary NC 27511.919-741-6078.
P+ 11) Studio Salon Massage 922 NE Maynard Road Cary NC 27513 919-388-1177.
P+ 12) Massage Atsu Garner 40 East Exit 312 Garner NC (919) 329-0090.
P+ 16) Eden Spa 2436 SW Cary Parkway Cary, NC. 27513 919-377-2607.
E 18) VIP ASIAN SPA Weathers Ct Youngsville NC 27596 919) 570-5060.
P+ 20) SuperRelax (X Asia Massage) 548 Huffman Mill Road, Burlington NC Right off 85&40 Exit 141 336-270-6547.
P- 23) Suncity Spas Massage 2891 Jones Franklin Road, Raleigh NC 919-348-2410.
P- 24) MiMi Massage 137 O'Neal St. Burlington, NC 27215 336-395-8971.
P- 25) SuperRelax 5533 Hwy 42 West, Unit A-12 Garner NC 919-779-9937.
P+ 26) Asian Relax Center 6405 Westgate Rd, Unit 125 , Raleigh NC 919 881 8489.
P+ 28) Holiday Spa 154 Morrisville Square Way, Morrisville NC 27560 919-377-2786 & 919-370-6490.
P+ 29) You-Relax Spa 750-the East Chatham Street, Cary NC 27511.919-378-9364.
P+ 30) Touch of Asia 811 E. Williams Street Apex NC 919 387-8282.
P+ 32) Eastern Spa 800 West Williams Street #152 Apex NC 919-372-8233.
P- 34) Colony Massage 5416 Six Forks Road Reilgh NC 919-846-9999.
P 37) Asian Remedy Unit E 5410 Hwy 55 Durhanm NC (919) 206-1555.
P 38) Asian Massage Health 11490 US 70 Bus. Hwy W Clayton NC 27520 (919) 243-0678.
Letter code.
"C" difficult.
"P " possible + or - Gives a better indication. YMMV.
E easy.
AMPs The Short List.
Numbers keept the same to avoid confusion.
All "I" and "C" rated APMs removed except Number 7 because of the Back Walking. Several AMPs upgraded.
Corrections and debate welcome.
Hopfully this will save time for most.
P+ 1) Superrelax Chinese Spa 2223 J highway NC 54 (I40 Exit 278) Durham NC 27713 919-248-9000.
P+ 2) Massage Atsu Cary 102-L Commonwealth Court Cary NC (919) 388-8889.
P+ 5) Yucca also uses Orient Salon 124 SW Maynard Road, # A Cary. NC 27511 (919) 741-4072.
P- 6) Apex Massage Spa 5623 Duraleigh Road, Suite 131. (919) 781 4888.
"C" 7) Asian Body Massage & Therapy 3672 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27604.919-878-1666. But great Back Walking.
P- 8) Oriental Body Massage 6320 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27616 (919) 871-3117.
P- 9) Emily China Spa 3601 Capital blvd #111 Raleigh NC 27604 919-872-2223.
E 10) Asian Massage 1373 SE Maynard Road, Cary NC 27511.919-741-6078.
P+ 11) Studio Salon Massage 922 NE Maynard Road Cary NC 27513 919-388-1177.
P+ 12) Massage Atsu Garner 40 East Exit 312 Garner NC (919) 329-0090.
P+ 16) Eden Spa 2436 SW Cary Parkway Cary, NC. 27513 919-377-2607.
E 18) VIP ASIAN SPA Weathers Ct Youngsville NC 27596 919) 570-5060.
P+ 20) SuperRelax (X Asia Massage) 548 Huffman Mill Road, Burlington NC Right off 85&40 Exit 141 336-270-6547.
P- 23) Suncity Spas Massage 2891 Jones Franklin Road, Raleigh NC 919-348-2410.
P- 24) MiMi Massage 137 O'Neal St. Burlington, NC 27215 336-395-8971.
P- 25) SuperRelax 5533 Hwy 42 West, Unit A-12 Garner NC 919-779-9937.
P+ 26) Asian Relax Center 6405 Westgate Rd, Unit 125 , Raleigh NC 919 881 8489.
P+ 28) Holiday Spa 154 Morrisville Square Way, Morrisville NC 27560 919-377-2786 & 919-370-6490.
P+ 29) You-Relax Spa 750-the East Chatham Street, Cary NC 27511.919-378-9364.
P+ 30) Touch of Asia 811 E. Williams Street Apex NC 919 387-8282.
P+ 32) Eastern Spa 800 West Williams Street #152 Apex NC 919-372-8233.
P- 34) Colony Massage 5416 Six Forks Road Reilgh NC 919-846-9999.
P 37) Asian Remedy Unit E 5410 Hwy 55 Durhanm NC (919) 206-1555.
P 38) Asian Massage Health 11490 US 70 Bus. Hwy W Clayton NC 27520 (919) 243-0678.
Letter code.
"C" difficult.
"P " possible + or - Gives a better indication. YMMV.
E easy.Thank you for everything, JimJim. Your list has made it easier for all of us. It is spot on for the places I have visited.
Ruff and Ready
12-28-14, 10:22
Put in some time with them to get response. But once you are established it is ok. Nothing like RR used to be, but better therapeutic massage is available there too.As I have reported here before more is available if you are nice, respectful and have made enough visits to develop a rapport with ALL of the girls. All of the girls is important as I believe they watch out for each other. EdGein is right that it is not as RR was however it can cum close. No pun intended.
Went there before and yes some extras are on the table. However this place is off my list. My most recent visit did not make me want to come back. First the linen smell like they are not washing them with anything other than water. Thinking maybe I can get passed the smell if the service is great so I proceed. I see a lady named coco, not the coco that has been know for doing great massages. It started with the weakest back rub I ever had, and I have had some weak ones. About 14 minutes into the massage she said turn over and puts a hand on jr. Then asks for tip. We come to an agreement for nude +BJ (mistake was tipping first). So now she goes to work trying to stay out of hands reach. I eventually get a her to come closer and it turns into top side only and dodge ball on the bottom half. She finally finishes up with a hand shake because she was tired and in a rush. At this time we are 28 minutes into my 1 hr massage. She said ok I'm finish I said no look at the clock 30 more minutes. So she then starts to rub my neck for 2 minutes then stops again, after that I was done. I could have made a big deal about it but why bother, just take my business else where. Note to self never tip first if not one of your trusted providers.
Sorry I did have a warning on them 2 lists ago, I should have left in on. They are always easy but many complain about being rushed.
Went there before and yes some extras are on the table. However this place is off my list. My most recent visit did not make me want to come back. First the linen smell like they are not washing them with anything other than water. Thinking maybe I can get passed the smell if the service is great so I proceed. I see a lady named coco, not the coco that has been know for doing great massages. It started with the weakest back rub I ever had, and I have had some weak ones. About 14 minutes into the massage she said turn over and puts a hand on jr. Then asks for tip. We come to an agreement for nude +BJ (mistake was tipping first). So now she goes to work trying to stay out of hands reach. I eventually get a her to come closer and it turns into top side only and dodge ball on the bottom half. She finally finishes up with a hand shake because she was tired and in a rush. At this time we are 28 minutes into my 1 hr massage. She said ok I'm finish I said no look at the clock 30 more minutes. So she then starts to rub my neck for 2 minutes then stops again, after that I was done. I could have made a big deal about it but why bother, just take my business else where. Note to self never tip first if not one of your trusted providers.
I appreciate the feedback. I try to visit them all, but it's hard when you get treated so well at some, and others just aren't as good. You just want to go back to the ones you like. So I need feed back to improve the list.
Thank you for everything, JimJim. Your list has made it easier for all of us. It is spot on for the places I have visited.
Sorry I did have a warning on them 2 lists ago, I should have left in on. They are always easy but many complain about being rushed.Thanks jimjim, I had an ok to below average experience the first time but wanted to try a different lady this time, sometimes its just one bad lady and not the style of the shop as a hold. These ladies don't know they lose more money in the long run with poor service. Now if we only had a list that covers the backpage providers. LOL.
Be glad to do it LOL, but unfortunately my budget would not support that effort. I'm like the Newspaper guy who does the restaurant reviews without the Newspaper to pay for the dinners. Now if I could get a job like that to review the Service Providors I think I could handle it, but no one would pay me. It's a great idea and would be a real service, so someone else should give it a shot. I'm sure everyone would help out just like they do with the AMP list. I just wish that every city had an AMP list so that when we travel, we could get a heads up (pun intended). Many of the pay sites can't really be trusted that much.
Thanks jimjim, I had an ok to below average experience the first time but wanted to try a different lady this time, sometimes its just one bad lady and not the style of the shop as a hold. These ladies don't know they lose more money in the long run with poor service. Now if we only had a list that covers the backpage providers. LOL.
LoverBoyWa
12-29-14, 02:42
Went there before and yes some extras are on the table. However this place is off my list. My most recent visit did not make me want to come back. First the linen smell like they are not washing them with anything other than water. Thinking maybe I can get passed the smell if the service is great so I proceed. I see a lady named coco, not the coco that has been know for doing great massages. It started with the weakest back rub I ever had, and I have had some weak ones. About 14 minutes into the massage she said turn over and puts a hand on jr. Then asks for tip. We come to an agreement for nude +BJ (mistake was tipping first). So now she goes to work trying to stay out of hands reach. I eventually get a her to come closer and it turns into top side only and dodge ball on the bottom half. She finally finishes up with a hand shake because she was tired and in a rush. At this time we are 28 minutes into my 1 hr massage. She said ok I'm finish I said no look at the clock 30 more minutes. So she then starts to rub my neck for 2 minutes then stops again, after that I was done. I could have made a big deal about it but why bother, just take my business else where. Note to self never tip first if not one of your trusted providers.I had the same lady last week she did the exact same thing to me but I asked for my tip money back and just left and didn't finish. I was only in there for like 15 minutes so she Robbed me out of my hour massage. I am now like if I'm not happy with the extras that is being offer then I will Walk a way with my blue balls and all LOL.
And THAT would be the true result of those trying to drive tip prices down. It's not a closed system, guys; tip generously.The goal can't be to simply drive down tip prices across the board, but instead should be to show clear differentiation between the tips for good service vs bad.
If the service isn't good then by all means, don't tip well; If it is good or show's potential, then tip generously!! I'm not sure I'm totally sold on the power of the collective voice of this board, but just in case, let's send the message both ways.
Moon Raker
12-30-14, 02:31
Hi guys, I'm looking for some info of places on the East Coast. Long story short I'm flying up to Boston and driving back to Raleigh. Anyone have recommendations on a city with a full menu along the route back to Raleigh. Always hear how the places up North are like Greensboro back in the day (missed that too) and people have glowing reviews. I'm sure I'll need to stop and stretch and am hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
Brneyehound
12-30-14, 11:29
Saw a sign on the door today that I haven't seen before. Wasn't able to stop and read it due to my significant other being in the vehicle. Does anyone know what it says on the door?
Carolina Dream
12-30-14, 13:12
Saw a sign on the door today that I haven't seen before. Wasn't able to stop and read it due to my significant other being in the vehicle. Does anyone know what it says on the door?I haven't seen it because I haven't been recently, but they've been known to close for a short time around the holidays in past years. Maybe that's it?
Usually they are closed during Christmas through New Years. They should be back open after holidays.
Saw a sign on the door today that I haven't seen before. Wasn't able to stop and read it due to my significant other being in the vehicle. Does anyone know what it says on the door?Closed from 12/24. Thru 1/5 (I think opeing 1/5).
Happy (ending) New Year Everybody!
Went there before and yes some extras are on the table. However this place is off my list. My most recent visit did not make me want to come back. First the linen smell like they are not washing them with anything other than water. Thinking maybe I can get passed the smell if the service is great so I proceed. I see a lady named coco, not the coco that has been know for doing great massages. It started with the weakest back rub I ever had, and I have had some weak ones. About 14 minutes into the massage she said turn over and puts a hand on jr. Then asks for tip. We come to an agreement for nude +BJ (mistake was tipping first). So now she goes to work trying to stay out of hands reach. I eventually get a her to come closer and it turns into top side only and dodge ball on the bottom half. She finally finishes up with a hand shake because she was tired and in a rush. At this time we are 28 minutes into my 1 hr massage. She said ok I'm finish I said no look at the clock 30 more minutes. So she then starts to rub my neck for 2 minutes then stops again, after that I was done. I could have made a big deal about it but why bother, just take my business else where. Note to self never tip first if not one of your trusted providers.Well I like a challenge so I decided to give this place a shot. I'll be honest I don't remember ever going here before. So, I ring the bell. Young looking girl opens the door grabs my hand and takes me to the room. Paid for one hour. She does about 35 minute massage flip. She spoke pretty good English. Oh the first question I ask was what's your name, she replied Amy. I was locked and loaded if she said Coco. So the flip she asked you need me to massage that (dick) or do you want something else. I said yea remove your clothes and let's fuck, no fuck, just HJ or BJ. We haggle a little settle for $80 nude BJ. She leaves the room with the cash and to get a cover I assumed (I always carry a cover just in case) she walks in the room with a piece of glad wrap I'm thinking WTF are we wrapping left overs. Nope this is the Chinese saving a penny. She wrapped up my boy and started sucking. Her head skills actually were good enough that I didn't mind being wrapped up like a salami. She finished cleaned me up, did I get a full hour? Hell I don't know I wasn't there for a massage anyway. Probably there 50 minutes. But I was ready to deal with miss Coco's con game. Amy is kinda tall, very short hair looks to be in her 20's. No problem with her. Glad Wrap was a first for me LOL.
Hi guys, I'm looking for some info of places on the East Coast. Long story short I'm flying up to Boston and driving back to Raleigh. Anyone have recommendations on a city with a full menu along the route back to Raleigh. Always hear how the places up North are like Greensboro back in the day (missed that too) and people have glowing reviews. I'm sure I'll need to stop and stretch and am hoping someone can point me in the right direction.You should check out the other boards. From what I know about the Maryland area, avoid DC itself. I believe there are many providers in Nova, VA though. And around greenbelt, MD.
You should check out the other boards around where you want to stop: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3895-Massage-Parlor-Reports.
Based off of the reports, and my experience in the area, it can be really good. Lots of Korean honnies who are 7's through 9's. Based on some of the reports in that thread (despite my lack of recent experience there) I will still vouch for that area and specifically the greenbelt area is good right now.
Been kind of slow on here during the Holidays, so time to vent a bit. Having been to many AMPs, I have heard a lot of guys when they come in. You would not believe how many guys start their haggling as soon as they come in. Whether it's over why there is an extra charge for the TS or why the half hour rate is not half the hour rate. Most seem to be haggling over the half hour rate. Their volume is also elevated. What signal do you think that sends to the girl. I'll tell you it's I'm cheap. They then get upset when the girl wants to know what the tip is, since he's allready told her he is cheap. They normally don't get more than a HE if that. They make easy hard. I know what's possible with some of these girls. They don't set the rates but do get a cut of them. They normally won't give anything extra if someone hassles them from the beginning. So if any of you read this Board (I really hope not) just pay the house fee without the haggleling, show a little respect to the girl, and your fortunes will improve. I'm not talking about haggeling over a 4 handed at an AMP where you are known. That's kind of acceptable if they know you will tip both girls well. But if you are there for the first time, don't start by haggeling over the House fee. Just my 2 cents.
Moon Raker
12-31-14, 22:36
You should check out the other boards. From what I know about the Maryland area, avoid DC itself. I believe there are many providers in Nova, VA though. And around greenbelt, MD.
You should check out the other boards around where you want to stop: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3895-Massage-Parlor-Reports.
Based off of the reports, and my experience in the area, it can be really good. Lots of Korean honnies who are 7's through 9's. Based on some of the reports in that thread (despite my lack of recent experience there) I will still vouch for that area and specifically the greenbelt area is good right now.Thank you sir.
Been kind of slow on here during the Holidays, so time to vent a bit. Having been to many AMPs, I have heard a lot of guys when they come in. You would not believe how many guys start their haggling as soon as they come in. Whether it's over why there is an extra charge for the TS or why the half hour rate is not half the hour rate. Most seem to be haggling over the half hour rate. Their volume is also elevated. What signal do you think that sends to the girl. I'll tell you it's I'm cheap. They then get upset when the girl wants to know what the tip is, since he's allready told her he is cheap. They normally don't get more than a HE if that. They make easy hard. I know what's possible with some of these girls. They don't set the rates but do get a cut of them. They normally won't give anything extra if someone hassles them from the beginning. So if any of you read this Board (I really hope not) just pay the house fee without the haggleling, show a little respect to the girl, and your fortunes will improve. I'm not talking about haggeling over a 4 handed at an AMP where you are known. That's kind of acceptable if they know you will tip both girls well. But if you are there for the first time, don't start by haggeling over the House fee. Just my 2 cents.Can't take the New Years Eve crap on TV, so here I am. Just to add my 2 cents. The thing that applies to what JimJim is saying IMO is if guys would keep up with this board or take a little time and read back a little ways there is some really valuable info that lays out the rules that we establish, also rules that the store will establish. And when we or the store try to change the rules it effects us all. Like guys tipping too much or being cheap on everything, the girls wonder is this the way the American do business. Or girls that bait & switch or cut time, when one girl does this we go somewhere else the other girls pay the price for one girls action because we posted I got ripped off at xyz place. So there are rules for us and them. WE have to have this knowledge of rules from this board because this is where we hang out together just no cold beer to sip LOL. THE GIRLS believe me teach each other the rules when one comes into the store from somewhere else by the veterans that have been there because they know who comes in the store and what they want. So the point is if you are a newbie or have been around awhile just read what has been laid out on this board and it will eliminate a lot of guess work about where to go, how much to tip, what to kinda expect as far as service and total cost, how loud not to be in the store etc. If a few girls or a few guys are assholes it really makes it tough for everyone until they are identified and believe me these girls are street smart they may not speak English but they don't forget a tip or a face. My 2 cents. Happy New Year.
Been kind of slow on here during the Holidays, so time to vent a bit. Having been to many AMPs, I have heard a lot of guys when they come in. You would not believe how many guys start their haggling as soon as they come in. Whether it's over why there is an extra charge for the TS or why the half hour rate is not half the hour rate. Most seem to be haggling over the half hour rate. Their volume is also elevated. What signal do you think that sends to the girl. I'll tell you it's I'm cheap. They then get upset when the girl wants to know what the tip is, since he's allready told her he is cheap. They normally don't get more than a HE if that. They make easy hard. I know what's possible with some of these girls. They don't set the rates but do get a cut of them. They normally won't give anything extra if someone hassles them from the beginning. So if any of you read this Board (I really hope not) just pay the house fee without the haggleling, show a little respect to the girl, and your fortunes will improve. I'm not talking about haggeling over a 4 handed at an AMP where you are known. That's kind of acceptable if they know you will tip both girls well. But if you are there for the first time, don't start by haggeling over the House fee. Just my 2 cents.Can't take the New Years Eve crap on TV, so here I am. Just to add my 2 cents. The thing that applies to what JimJim is saying IMO is if guys would keep up with this board or take a little time and read back a little ways there is some really valuable info that lays out the rules that we establish, also rules that the store will establish. And when we or the store try to change the rules it effects us all. Like guys tipping too much or being cheap on everything, the girls wonder is this the way the American do business. Or girls that bait & switch or cut time, when one girl does this we go somewhere else the other girls pay the price for one girls action because we posted I got ripped off at xyz place. So there are rules for us and them. WE have to have this knowledge of rules from this board because this is where we hang out together just no cold beer to sip LOL. THE GIRLS believe me teach each other the rules when one comes into the store from somewhere else by the veterans that have been there because they know who comes in the store and what they want. So the point is if you are a newbie or have been around awhile just read what has been laid out on this board and it will eliminate a lot of guess work about where to go, how much to tip, what to kinda expect as far as service and total cost, how loud not to be in the store etc. If a few girls or a few guys are assholes it really makes it tough for everyone until they are identified and believe me these girls are street smart they may not speak English but they don't forget a tip or a face. My 2 cents. Happy New Year.
MwmForHotFun
01-01-15, 20:36
Hey mongers. Earlier today, I "re-found" the apartment off of Green Rd. (Carla, and other names have been used in postings) and went back, as I had seen LuLu there the week before Christmas. Its a 2 BR apartment on the ground floor with easy entry. Standard two call system and a. 6 door charge. Immediate negotiation with different levels for HJ, BJ and FS. The last time I went, I paid the door fee and negotiated 100 extra for FS. Lulu was phenomenal. Nice tight body, red tinted long hair and very tight and wet pussy. LFK, CBJ, full roaming allowed, even rubbing the back door (but not entry). Time was under 30 min with 160 spent. Flash forward to today. I saw the Carla add again, called and when I got the address, realized that I'd been there before, texted back, told her (mamasan, I think. She stayed in the other bedroom last time after looking to make sure I was "ok") the apt number (to let her know I was legitimately a return customer and said I was on the way. She told me on the phone that "new girl" is here and is the girl in pics on the ad.
I arrived and met "May" who said she was the new girl who arrived last week, asked if I had been before, and I told her I had been, saw Lulu (who she didn't know) and told her she could confirm with the boss. Additional note, while May was attractive (larger chest than most at AMPs but still petite, she is NOT the girl in the photos, advertised as REAL PHOTOS) We went into the bedroom and I stripped naked. She told me to lay down and immediately started HJ after I gave her 60. I told her I wanted FS and she said "fine" and said "fuck and blowjob is 140" I told her I only paid 100 last time for LuLu and that I had even asked how much tip to bring when I got their return call after my 2nd call. Like last time, I brought 160 total. She started rubbing my cock and then said blowjob only. I told her I wanted full body mutual massage with HJ, BJ and FS with mutual touching, and she said ok, except for topless only with BJ. I said "huh?" and again said I got FS and full nude for 160 total and asked her to confirm with the boss that I was there and saw Lulu. She again said 140 + 60 for door fee or now only HJ. I then got up (which surprised her) got dressed, asked her for my 60 back (she gave it to me) and took my 100 back too. She was asking if I was going to get 40 more, and I told her I wasnt happy and was leaving. She seemed surprised, and as I was leaving and walking by the bosses room, I loudly but politely expressed my concern about being asked to pay 40 more than the previous girl asked for, especially when I asked if 100 tip was ok on the phone (and they didn't say no). I told her I was not happy and that she wasted my time. I also told her I would be letting others know of my dissatisfaction and would text back the boss too. She just said "ok" and told me to come back with 40 more and she would fuck me. 200 for a 20 min fuck is a bit steep.
As I left, I saw a grandmother type outside the building (4500), who was also there when I came in. She was eyeballing me as I was only in the apt for 5 min, and seemed to imply that a lot of guys come and go. She made a comment about her knowing what goes on "in there," and seemed to not be happy. I didn't acknowledge or engage her. With upsell tactics and nosy neighbors (its a legit apartment building) I don't think theyll be there long anyway. But for 200, its a guaranteed lay with an attractive and willing asian lady. Here are most recent two ads.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/real-pics-asian-incall-body-rubjust-arrived-jessup/19118653
http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/amazing-asian-body-rub-stunning-gorgeous-superstar/19089407
Hey mongers. Earlier today, I "re-found" the apartment off of Green Rd. (Carla, and other names have been used in postings) and went back, as I had seen LuLu there the week before Christmas. Its a 2 BR apartment on the ground floor with easy entry. Standard two call system and a. 6 door charge. Immediate negotiation with different levels for HJ, BJ and FS. The last time I went, I paid the door fee and negotiated 100 extra for FS. Lulu was phenomenal. Nice tight body, red tinted long hair and very tight and wet pussy. LFK, CBJ, full roaming allowed, even rubbing the back door (but not entry). Time was under 30 min with 160 spent. Flash forward to today. I saw the Carla add again, called and when I got the address, realized that I'd been there before, texted back, told her (mamasan, I think. She stayed in the other bedroom last time after looking to make sure I was "ok") the apt number (to let her know I was legitimately a return customer and said I was on the way. She told me on the phone that "new girl" is here and is the girl in pics on the ad.
I arrived and met "May" who said she was the new girl who arrived last week, asked if I had been before, and I told her I had been, saw Lulu (who she didn't know) and told her she could confirm with the boss. Additional note, while May was attractive (larger chest than most at AMPs but still petite, she is NOT the girl in the photos, advertised as REAL PHOTOS) We went into the bedroom and I stripped naked. She told me to lay down and immediately started HJ after I gave her 60. I told her I wanted FS and she said "fine" and said "fuck and blowjob is 140" I told her I only paid 100 last time for LuLu and that I had even asked how much tip to bring when I got their return call after my 2nd call. Like last time, I brought 160 total. She started rubbing my cock and then said blowjob only. I told her I wanted full body mutual massage with HJ, BJ and FS with mutual touching, and she said ok, except for topless only with BJ. I said "huh?" and again said I got FS and full nude for 160 total and asked her to confirm with the boss that I was there and saw Lulu. She again said 140 + 60 for door fee or now only HJ. I then got up (which surprised her) got dressed, asked her for my 60 back (she gave it to me) and took my 100 back too. She was asking if I was going to get 40 more, and I told her I wasnt happy and was leaving. She seemed surprised, and as I was leaving and walking by the bosses room, I loudly but politely expressed my concern about being asked to pay 40 more than the previous girl asked for, especially when I asked if 100 tip was ok on the phone (and they didn't say no). I told her I was not happy and that she wasted my time. I also told her I would be letting others know of my dissatisfaction and would text back the boss too. She just said "ok" and told me to come back with 40 more and she would fuck me. 200 for a 20 min fuck is a bit steep.
As I left, I saw a grandmother type outside the building (4500), who was also there when I came in. She was eyeballing me as I was only in the apt for 5 min, and seemed to imply that a lot of guys come and go. She made a comment about her knowing what goes on "in there," and seemed to not be happy. I didn't acknowledge or engage her. With upsell tactics and nosy neighbors (its a legit apartment building) I don't think theyll be there long anyway. But for 200, its a guaranteed lay with an attractive and willing asian lady. Here are most recent two ads.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/real-pics-asian-incall-body-rubjust-arrived-jessup/19118653
http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/amazing-asian-body-rub-stunning-gorgeous-superstar/19089407Thanks for info, back to Cary.
Hi guys, I'm looking for some info of places on the East Coast. Long story short I'm flying up to Boston and driving back to Raleigh. Anyone have recommendations on a city with a full menu along the route back to Raleigh. Always hear how the places up North are like Greensboro back in the day (missed that too) and people have glowing reviews. I'm sure I'll need to stop and stretch and am hoping someone can point me in the right direction.It used to be great place for me. My quick check of the Providence MP board makes me think the pickings and menu are still quite tasty.
Hey mongers. Earlier today, I "re-found" the apartment off of Green Rd. (Carla, and other names have been used in postings) and went back, as I had seen LuLu there the week before Christmas. Its a 2 BR apartment on the ground floor with easy entry. Standard two call system and a. 6 door charge. Immediate negotiation with different levels for HJ, BJ and FS. The last time I went, I paid the door fee and negotiated 100 extra for FS. Lulu was phenomenal. Nice tight body, red tinted long hair and very tight and wet pussy. LFK, CBJ, full roaming allowed, even rubbing the back door (but not entry). Time was under 30 min with 160 spent. Flash forward to today. I saw the Carla add again, called and when I got the address, realized that I'd been there before, texted back, told her (mamasan, I think. She stayed in the other bedroom last time after looking to make sure I was "ok") the apt number (to let her know I was legitimately a return customer and said I was on the way. She told me on the phone that "new girl" is here and is the girl in pics on the ad.
I arrived and met "May" who said she was the new girl who arrived last week, asked if I had been before, and I told her I had been, saw Lulu (who she didn't know) and told her she could confirm with the boss. Additional note, while May was attractive (larger chest than most at AMPs but still petite, she is NOT the girl in the photos, advertised as REAL PHOTOS) We went into the bedroom and I stripped naked. She told me to lay down and immediately started HJ after I gave her 60. I told her I wanted FS and she said "fine" and said "fuck and blowjob is 140" I told her I only paid 100 last time for LuLu and that I had even asked how much tip to bring when I got their return call after my 2nd call. Like last time, I brought 160 total. She started rubbing my cock and then said blowjob only. I told her I wanted full body mutual massage with HJ, BJ and FS with mutual touching, and she said ok, except for topless only with BJ. I said "huh?" and again said I got FS and full nude for 160 total and asked her to confirm with the boss that I was there and saw Lulu. She again said 140 + 60 for door fee or now only HJ. I then got up (which surprised her) got dressed, asked her for my 60 back (she gave it to me) and took my 100 back too. She was asking if I was going to get 40 more, and I told her I wasnt happy and was leaving. She seemed surprised, and as I was leaving and walking by the bosses room, I loudly but politely expressed my concern about being asked to pay 40 more than the previous girl asked for, especially when I asked if 100 tip was ok on the phone (and they didn't say no). I told her I was not happy and that she wasted my time. I also told her I would be letting others know of my dissatisfaction and would text back the boss too. She just said "ok" and told me to come back with 40 more and she would fuck me. 200 for a 20 min fuck is a bit steep.
As I left, I saw a grandmother type outside the building (4500), who was also there when I came in. She was eyeballing me as I was only in the apt for 5 min, and seemed to imply that a lot of guys come and go. She made a comment about her knowing what goes on "in there," and seemed to not be happy. I didn't acknowledge or engage her. With upsell tactics and nosy neighbors (its a legit apartment building) I don't think theyll be there long anyway. But for 200, its a guaranteed lay with an attractive and willing asian lady. Here are most recent two ads.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/real-pics-asian-incall-body-rubjust-arrived-jessup/19118653
http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/amazing-asian-body-rub-stunning-gorgeous-superstar/19089407Good info to know. Good job RaleighMan thinking with your big head on this one. You left with your point getting across and your money. Always another provider out there willing to treat you right.
Went to Holiday the other day and got the hour massage without TS. I was met at the door by "see" who worked at Studio about a year ago. She's short, average looking with see cups. I'd say she's compact without being overweight. She was really buttoned up. She probably had on two bras and two pair of pants with the shirt tucked into both pants LOL. She gave a really great massage but if I was being critical she spent a little too much time on my back. That being said, she worked her butt off for the entire time. The majority of time was spend lying on my stomach so when the flip happened the oil came out immediately and without discussion. She allowed OTC roaming but that won't do you much good. She went over the hour, probably 1:10, but wasn't watching the clock. Business was slow so I imagine that was the reason. She speaks English better than most but it's not perfect. Massage 8, Looks 6, Personality 8. I would rate her higher on the massage if she spent more time on the arms and legs but all you'd have to do is ask I'm sure. BTW, as soon as they hear the door ring they come and get you in a room so it avoids meeting your fellow reviewer in the waiting room. Nattie.
NemphoManiac77
01-03-15, 11:23
Has anyone seen this one? Details?
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/4827481888.html
NemphoManiac77
01-03-15, 16:07
It looks like T&W massage in knightdale is now closed. A shame they had the best prices around 50 for the hour. They were only open for about six months.
I don't known if its for good or a temp type of thing.http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/tandw-spa-knightdale-body-pain-expert/17419637
MD Bellamy
01-04-15, 07:28
Has anyone seen this one? Details?
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/4827481888.htmlThe services she offers have been discussed quite fully. Look back on this forum (about 2/3 pages back).
MD Bellamy
01-04-15, 07:37
Has anyone seen this one? Details?
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/4827481888.htmlNem, she's discussed in the Craigslist section.
Spaceball1
01-04-15, 19:50
What a ripoff this place is. Paid 60 door fee for a one hour massage. I checked the clock when I entered the room and noted the time. Massage was OK, but nothing special. When she asked me to flip, I checked the clock again, and only 25 minutes had passed. She asked if I wanted extras by indicating HJ. I asked for FS, which was not available. Then I asked for nude BJ. She quoted 140 for that. I know this is just a starting point for negotiations, but WTF!? I countered with 60 and she scoffed, said no, and again asked for 140. It was clear she wasn't budging, so I declined any extras. By this point, I wasn't in the mood for anything. Then she says that we just go straight to the TS. I noted that I had only received 25 minutes of massage, to which she shrugged. At this point, I am fucking livid. I jumped off the table, got dressed, and left. I politely told her and the other girl that popped out of another room how I felt about their business practices. Neither seemed to be very bothered by any of it. By far the worst AMP experience I have ever had in the many years I have been frequenting these places. My advice: STAY AWAY.
FunTimes12
01-05-15, 00:33
Have stopped by a few times in the recent weeks. This place is home to one girl that has one of the best bodies I've seen at a local AMP. I saw her again recently and finally asked her name. She stated Emily. The TS in the beginning was amazing. Can always get an idea of what may happen when they are washing you. She teases the back and plays with the boys. Massage was "eh" but I decided to go 30 min massage and TS so I don't care about the actual massage quality. On the last visit when we finished the TS, I tend to ask for this first to gauge the attention I'll receive, back in the room I didn't even lay on stomach first. Went straight to to the "flip". She worked on me for a the full 30 minutes. Worked hard to help me leave happy. Just the typical tip and had a happy time. Will repeat.
So far I've visited a few of the places, the two Atsu's I've had my most luck. One place was a bust, think it was Apex or something of Duraliegh Rd. I can't remember. Was a bust. I see some other places aren't great but I'm looking for somewhere with slightly younger chicks. Any suggestions?
What a ripoff this place is. Paid 60 door fee for a one hour massage. I checked the clock when I entered the room and noted the time. Massage was OK, but nothing special. When she asked me to flip, I checked the clock again, and only 25 minutes had passed. She asked if I wanted extras by indicating HJ. I asked for FS, which was not available. Then I asked for nude BJ. She quoted 140 for that. I know this is just a starting point for negotiations, but WTF!? I countered with 60 and she scoffed, said no, and again asked for 140. It was clear she wasn't budging, so I declined any extras. By this point, I wasn't in the mood for anything. Then she says that we just go straight to the TS. I noted that I had only received 25 minutes of massage, to which she shrugged. At this point, I am fucking livid. I jumped off the table, got dressed, and left. I politely told her and the other girl that popped out of another room how I felt about their business practices. Neither seemed to be very bothered by any of it. By far the worst AMP experience I have ever had in the many years I have been frequenting these places. My advice: STAY AWAY.I totally agree, at least we from this forum need to ban going to such places. If they are demanding then there is no point visiting any more.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/tandw-spa-knightdale-body-pain-expert/17419637Maybe they were just closed for the holidays.
What a ripoff this place is. Paid 60 door fee for a one hour massage. I checked the clock when I entered the room and noted the time. Massage was OK, but nothing special. When she asked me to flip, I checked the clock again, and only 25 minutes had passed. She asked if I wanted extras by indicating HJ. I asked for FS, which was not available. Then I asked for nude BJ. She quoted 140 for that. I know this is just a starting point for negotiations, but WTF!? I countered with 60 and she scoffed, said no, and again asked for 140. It was clear she wasn't budging, so I declined any extras. By this point, I wasn't in the mood for anything. Then she says that we just go straight to the TS. I noted that I had only received 25 minutes of massage, to which she shrugged. At this point, I am fucking livid. I jumped off the table, got dressed, and left. I politely told her and the other girl that popped out of another room how I felt about their business practices. Neither seemed to be very bothered by any of it. By far the worst AMP experience I have ever had in the many years I have been frequenting these places. My advice: STAY AWAY.Yes this place should just close down if they don't know how to keep customers happy. These ladies come from vagas. They don't get it. They are not going to have many repeat customers when they short people out of their time, or ask for a crazy tip. Good advice for everyone that reads this, stay away.
What a ripoff this place is. Paid 60 door fee for a one hour massage. I checked the clock when I entered the room and noted the time. Massage was OK, but nothing special. When she asked me to flip, I checked the clock again, and only 25 minutes had passed. She asked if I wanted extras by indicating HJ. I asked for FS, which was not available. Then I asked for nude BJ. She quoted 140 for that. I know this is just a starting point for negotiations, but WTF!? I countered with 60 and she scoffed, said no, and again asked for 140. It was clear she wasn't budging, so I declined any extras. By this point, I wasn't in the mood for anything. Then she says that we just go straight to the TS. I noted that I had only received 25 minutes of massage, to which she shrugged. At this point, I am fucking livid. I jumped off the table, got dressed, and left. I politely told her and the other girl that popped out of another room how I felt about their business practices. Neither seemed to be very bothered by any of it. By far the worst AMP experience I have ever had in the many years I have been frequenting these places. My advice: STAY AWAY.Overpriced, time cutters, bitchy teasers, too cheap to supply a $1 condom etc. Etc. Easy fix!! AVOID AVOID AVOID.
PenaltyKiller
01-06-15, 11:15
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/classy-mature-lady-for-true-gentleman/5455912
Brneyehound
01-06-15, 14:00
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/classy-mature-lady-for-true-gentleman/5455912She has been reviewed here many times before. Try the search function.
Livinitinva
01-06-15, 15:15
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/classy-mature-lady-for-true-gentleman/5455912I have seen many bad reviews.
Never a good one.
Not even a "Meh" review.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/classy-mature-lady-for-true-gentleman/5455912Not a bad person just odd-I saw her a couple of times but it's been about a year ago-nice house in a safe area. Nothing special-rub and tug-I might repeat if no one else was available.
She has been reviewed here many times before. Try the search function.That won't turn up anything unless you have a name. Most posts here do not include phone numbers which is about the only other search criteria.
PenaltyKiller. Try searching for Estelle on the different forums.
Brneyehound
01-07-15, 12:30
That won't turn up anything unless you have a name. Most posts here do not include phone numbers which is about the only other search criteria.
PenaltyKiller. Try searching for Estelle on the different forums.True. Didn't mean to be a dick. Happy hunting.
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/classy-mature-lady-for-true-gentleman/5455912She is NOT 39. Maybe 59. And she is very odd and she loves her cats. Does she still wears those gloves at the end? (I. E it has been years).
She is NOT 39. Maybe 59. And she is very odd and she loves her cats. Does she still wears those gloves at the end? (I. E it has been years).Older than 59. I think 62 if I remember correctly. And she only has one cat. His name is Christian. Only interesting thing there.
She only wore the gloves with me if she was doing a prostate massage at same time as HE.
She is nuttier than a Ferro Rocher eating Squirrel crap.
Ruff and Ready
01-08-15, 18:14
She always wore the gloves when I saw her many times several years ago. Claimed it was to prevent her from getting something. It didn't bother me until one time she had to use the type of glove you see at restaurants. She is diffidently a real fruit-loop. She did let me photograph a couple of times though in her "wedding chapel" which is the large room to the right at the top of the stairs. As stated earlier, if you can't find anything else and need a fix she'll do.
Older than 59. I think 62 if I remember correctly. And she only has one cat. His name is Christian. Only interesting thing there.
She only wore the gloves with me if she was doing a prostate massage at same time as HE.
She is nuttier than a Ferro Rocher eating Squirrel crap.
JKimMobile
01-08-15, 20:37
I went to EDEN in cary several times.
Whenever I reached there, I had different masseuses.
I really enjoyed their massage.
But I 'd like to complain about their age.
The 1st one looked late 20's.
The 2nd one looked mid 30's.
The 3rd one looked mid 40's, maybe early 50 because she had heavy make up at that time (Dec, 2014).
It seems that all of masseuse were replaced.
I am not discriminating their age.
I am 30's I don't feel good when I had massage from a very older lady.
I just worry about having a older masseuse.
Can you recommend any other Ams in cary where younger masseuses are working?
I've been kinda bouncing around from Goldsboro Clayton Wilson area this week on business. I had a itch I couldn't seem to get scratched in these areas. Made my way back to home base today went to VIP. Got it scratched goooood. The lady at VIP was really sweet and talented at working up the moment before the glove was put on with her mouth. But she was also funny. She had a husky voice and yes I doubled checked to make sure the parts were right. Korean spoke pretty good English, I asked what's your name she said I think it's Cindy I forgot when I came back to work what it was she said it use to be Bebe and Linda but now I am Cindy. We were laughing our ass off. I'm pretty sure I recognize her working there a year or more ago I think she was Anna or something like that. But it was a typical VIP visit but well worth it. I don't make it to VIP but maybe twice a year. But a good tight Korean Pussy is worth the drive sometimes. $120 tip plus door fee.
Can you recommend any other Ams in cary where younger masseuses are working?Give Apple a shot at Cary Atsu.
Cheers!
Thresh.
Luv Massage
01-10-15, 14:37
Called and asked an appointment with Coco. Was told that she went back to NY. That might drop Colony below the current P-.
ThePolarVortex
01-10-15, 14:40
Hey folks. A rundown of my adventures in the search of the shy but willing FS.
Went by #6 around Thanksgiving when I saw that they had expanded their hours to 2230 close thinking that implied expanded menu. I was wrong. Masseuse was cute enough, but manual release only. Won't be back.
Went by new place #37 once before Christmas, once after. The first time was an ok masseuse and massage and happiness, but no roaming so didn't want to revisit. But on way out I saw two incredible hotties, so I gave it another try. Came back, tried to call ahead to secure someone else by name but the language barrier was too much. Stopped in, and the same disappoing masseuse appeared and on inquiry said that nobody else was there. When I started to ditch, she quickly went and got the other masseuse that 'wasn't there'. She was ok, ended up happy. But she was clearly personally unhappy to the point where the fun was drained as well. A good masseuse makes it appear that she enjoys almost as much as you. Not one that seems misetable. Won't be back.
This week, I will try one of the old reliable places and see if new talent has arrived.
Saw this place for the first time today. Any details I have only seen some vague post but nothing that had prices or menu.
GabiiLatina92
01-10-15, 19:08
Hey all. Anyone have any info on this new place? Long time lurker I'll start posting some reviews. Works both ways I understand!Tried messaging you back you have too many messaged in inbox you have to delete soom.
Visited Yucca #8 124 Maynard upon personal recommendation of well-known Senior Member that likes compiling lists. Saw Tina and received decent massage and left happy. Tina is in her mid to late 40's, nice figure and very pleasant. More on the table here than most of the establishments. Do plan to tip a bit more than normal. So if you are a 40 dollar guy don't expect more than rub and tug. Feel free to PM for details.
So a 20 something is not young enough! Worrying about an "older" masseuse. Don't Worry BE HAPPY! When you get as old as some of us they all are young! BTW I am surprised you were not happy with the young one (Lana) she's a cute one!
I went to EDEN in cary several times.
Whenever I reached there, I had different masseuses.
I really enjoyed their massage.
But I 'd like to complain about their age.
The 1st one looked late 20's.
The 2nd one looked mid 30's.
The 3rd one looked mid 40's, maybe early 50 because she had heavy make up at that time (Dec, 2014).
It seems that all of masseuse were replaced.
I am not discriminating their age.
I am 30's I don't feel good when I had massage from a very older lady.
I just worry about having a older masseuse.
Can you recommend any other Ams in cary where younger masseuses are working?
Luv Massage
01-10-15, 20:43
Hey folks. A rundown of my adventures in the search of the shy but willing FS.
Went by #6 around Thanksgiving when I saw that they had expanded their hours to 2230 close thinking that implied expanded menu. I was wrong. Masseuse was cute enough, but manual release only. Won't be back.
PolarVortex,
When you say manual release, are you referring to a HE or a "do-it-yourself, I'll watch"? It may effect the rating, currently a P-.
Livinitinva
01-10-15, 21:57
Saw this place for the first time today. Any details I have only seen some vague post but nothing that had prices or menu.It is YEARS since I've been here, but generally the prices are far higher than you will find on Backpage.
Forget a "real Massage".
Full Service may be available, but will be pricey.
Generally the place does not come highly recommended.
Saw this place for the first time today. Any details I have only seen some vague post but nothing that had prices or menu.Check out the post back in Dec / page 13 something about cameras and 2 way mirrors, strange. I think other post also indicated crazy prices for a HJ. The only perk was she has bigger tits than the Asians.
ThePolarVortex
01-11-15, 00:38
PolarVortex,
When you say manual release, are you referring to a HE or a "do-it-yourself, I'll watch"? It may effect the rating, currently a P-.Definitely do it yourself. I think I have been there four times over the years and left happy only once, the first time.
Definitely do it yourself. I think I have been there four times over the years and left happy only once, the first time.There are several places that are on that border line that offer a HE or Legit depending on who's working. This is one of those places. Because they usually have one girl that will do the deed. Not too far back they had 4 girls there Linda (short) Amy (heavy) Cindy (tall) Nichole (short) Nichole was the HE mule that the owner had there to draw us in. If you didn't get her you were out of luck. This is my opinion as of then I don't know who is there now it's been awhile since I've been there. We know other places like Colony and Atsu are for sure just like the ratings imply. But some of these places you have to have a name if you want a definite HE.
Luv Massage
01-11-15, 12:44
There are several places that are on that border line that offer a HE or Legit depending on who's working. This is one of those places... We know other places like Colony and Atsu are for sure just like the ratings imply. But some of these places you have to have a name if you want a definite HE.XHippie,
I think you misspoke when you mentioned Colony (#34) as a sure thing. It is rated a P-, not a P+.
But overall, I agree 100%. If you know what you want, go to a P+ rated establishment. The others are generally hit or miss.
I keep watching, hoping that a North Raleigh AMP will get a P+. As it is, I have to travel to Cary / Morrisvile if I want a sure thing.
XHippie,
I think you misspoke when you mentioned Colony (#34) as a sure thing. It is rated a P-, not a P+.
But overall, I agree 100%. If you know what you want, go to a P+ rated establishment. The others are generally hit or miss.
I keep watching, hoping that a North Raleigh AMP will get a P+. As it is, I have to travel to Cary / Morrisvile if I want a sure thing.Yep, brain fart. I was thinking Holiday Spa in Morrisville but typed Colony my bad.
Just went to Westgate and as always, it never disappoints. New girl I hadn't seen before, and wow what a great time. Cute girl that can't be older than mid 30's. Maybe mid to late 20's. No idea, but her english was better than normal. Overall a good massage, not super hard but relaxing and I felt great when done. During the massage there was a fair amount of teasing and sensual moments, and had a couple good laughs as well. On the flip she asked if I wanted a rub and I said yes. She never asked for tip, or specified a certain amount to tip. I like that and I liked her so I tipped. 6 as she deserved it in my eyes. No chance to really do UTC roaming, and I didn't try, but did a little light OTC with no problems. Overall, she was awesome, and I'd ask for her again for certain.
I hope everyone that goes there takes care of these women. From what I have read and experienced with other places with mechanical performances, rushing, and asking for x amount on filp, this place has never been like that. I have always had a great journey on the way to happiness at this place, lets keep it that way gents!
Luv Massage
01-11-15, 17:19
Took a visit to #28. Only been there a couple of times when they first opened. Was very pleased then, thought I'd find out whether it was still as good.
The lady that greeted me was mid-40's (best guess) and shapely. I would give her a 7/10 for her age. She had reasonable English skills and had a very good attitude, 8/10. We chatted a bit during the massage. I had asked for hard and she did a good job. I'd rate the massage 8/10. I never tried anything (roaming, etc). Just went with the flow and figured I'd see where things went. On the flip, she covered me with a towel, chest to mid-thigh, and continued the massage through the towel. Her hands brushed several times over the soldier and got his attention. As he started to come to attention she focused a bit more on the soldier until he was at full mast. She flipped back the towel, grabbed some oil and went to work. She seemed to enjoy what she was doing. She never mentioned tips or anything else. Her technique was excellent and the soldier was very happy. She finished the massage with the time remaining and then to the table shower. She was very thorough, bringing the soldier to attention once more. These are the times that I wish I were younger. No more multiple pops in this old man.
I'd had a very good 90 minute massage with a very nice ending; I tipped. 6. She seemed very pleased.
I like not having to ask. No tip discussions. It seems to be a formula that works well at the P+ establishments. I just try to be patient, friendly, and laid-back. Things seem to work out.
Just went to Westgate and as always, it never disappoints. New girl I hadn't seen before, and wow what a great time. Cute girl that can't be older than mid 30's. Maybe mid to late 20's. No idea, but her english was better than normal. Overall a good massage, not super hard but relaxing and I felt great when done. During the massage there was a fair amount of teasing and sensual moments, and had a couple good laughs as well. On the flip she asked if I wanted a rub and I said yes. She never asked for tip, or specified a certain amount to tip. I like that and I liked her so I tipped. 6 as she deserved it in my eyes. No chance to really do UTC roaming, and I didn't try, but did a little light OTC with no problems. Overall, she was awesome, and I'd ask for her again for certain.
I hope everyone that goes there takes care of these women. From what I have read and experienced with other places with mechanical performances, rushing, and asking for x amount on filp, this place has never been like that. I have always had a great journey on the way to happiness at this place, lets keep it that way gents!This place has never failed me. I have been gone for since it first opened at least 3 times a month. There have been several faces come and go but the service is always very consistent. This is def my favorite spot in the area.
Any one tried?
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-relax-with-jen/19646602
Thanks.
Luv Massage
01-12-15, 15:03
Any one tried?
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-relax-with-jen/19646602
Thanks.BP comes up empty.
Livinitinva
01-12-15, 15:34
BP comes up empty.This was the post that is now gone from BP.
http://massagetroll.com/raleigh-massages/919-402-7275/?pid=19646602
She posts now and then but not as often as some and if I recall and she was discussed pack a month or so ago.
Can't recall more details.
The ad was still live around 9:00 am this morning when I took a look. Seems like she keeps it up long enough to fill a schedule with attracting too much attention.
This was the post that is now gone from BP.
http://massagetroll.com/raleigh-massages/919-402-7275/?pid=19646602
She posts now and then but not as often as some and if I recall and she was discussed pack a month or so ago.
Can't recall more details.
BP comes up empty.It got removed. Adv said Latina brier creek.
This was the post that is now gone from BP.
http://massagetroll.com/raleigh-massages/919-402-7275/?pid=19646602
She posts now and then but not as often as some and if I recall and she was discussed pack a month or so ago.
Can't recall more details.Thats Jen, AKA Genny from a couple years back. Started at a salon with great service then went to a residence, then left the area. So glad she's back and itching to try her again. I recall the recent review states she wears the thong now when she massages, but no clue if more is available. She is usually available on Saturdays.
So I haven't seen much on Asian Remedy other than some people trying to check it out. Here is my results.
The interior is nice, the rooms have a ceiling and are similar to Cary Atsu. That's about where the comparison ends too.
I drew a thin probably early 40's girl and I opted for the hour at $70. The massage was ok, wasn't great wasn't bad, fairly relaxing. Was able to get a fair amount of roaming otc during the massage. After the backside was done, usual hot towel wipe down and flip. No real teasing during the massage or build up. Then started asking for the tip and how much. She started at 60 so I countered at 30. Then she went to 50 and I said 40. She kept insisting on 50 and I wouldn't budge. I'd rather relax and enjoy a scalp massage than keep getting hassled. After asking several more times and me saying no, she settled on 40. I should have stuck to my no. I got better service when I was in high school.
I would repeat for a different provider, but if I walked in and saw her again, would turn around and leave.
Summary:
Looks: 6.
Body: 7, thin.
Massage: 5.
Pleasant: 4.
No Rush: 4.
Total: $1. 10.
JKimMobile
01-13-15, 21:49
So a 20 something is not young enough! Worrying about an "older" masseuse. Don't Worry BE HAPPY! When you get as old as some of us they all are young! BTW I am surprised you were not happy with the young one (Lana) she's a cute one!The other dude recommended me to try Atsu today. A late 40's lady was eating. I didn't want to bother her. I went to Eden again.
I didn't expect to meet the young one you dude recommended but I met her inadvertently.
She is a nice and warm lady as well. I enjoyed her massaged and got relaxed with HE.
My today's stress has gone now.
Thank you again Dude.
J.
The other dude recommended me to try Atsu today. A late 40's lady was eating. I didn't want to bother her. I went to Eden again.
I didn't expect to meet the young one you dude recommended but I met her inadvertently.
She is a nice and warm lady as well. I enjoyed her massaged and got relaxed with HE.
My today's stress has gone now.
Thank you again Dude.
J.What's the total damage?
Unless I can find a local non-parlor provider I plan on making a trip up to VIP Thursday or Friday evening. I have previously been using another site for AMP reviews (and a good advertiser on this site) but I am quickly preferring the depth of knowledge here. The other reviews point to Hannah as a comfortable provider. Are there better ladies to ask for? Certain times?
Thank you all.
Southern Guy
01-14-15, 12:47
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-relax-with-jen/19675278
Thats Jen, AKA Genny from a couple years back. Started at a salon with great service then went to a residence, then left the area. So glad she's back and itching to try her again. I recall the recent review states she wears the thong now when she massages, but no clue if more is available. She is usually available on Saturdays.
Raider1963
01-14-15, 19:33
http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-relax-with-jen/19675278I always enjoyed seeing Genny. She was fun, her rates were great and her place was always clean. I plan on taking a road trip to see her soon. I was wondering if she was offering anything more on her menu?
Thanks.
Raider.
Member #1552
01-15-15, 00:44
I always enjoyed seeing Genny. She was fun, her rates were great and her place was always clean. I plan on taking a road trip to see her soon. I was wondering if she was offering anything more on her menu?
Thanks.
Raider.Nothing more seemed to be available and she remembered me. She does massage with less clothes on but charges WAY more than the good old days. Works a real job so availability is infrequent.
Raider1963
01-15-15, 09:23
Nothing more seemed to be available and she remembered me. She does massage with less clothes on but charges WAY more than the good old days. Works a real job so availability is infrequent.Thanks Member I appreciate it. I plan on seeing her soon.
Raider.
Raleighassman
01-15-15, 11:07
I've been given a cert for a free massage. And know full well that most of these Massage Envy locations are 100% legit.
Just posting here on the off chance any of you have had success finding a therapist who provides a more sensual experience.
There are several outlets in the area. And many therapists at each outlet.
PM me if you want.
I've been given a cert for a free massage. And know full well that most of these Massage Envy locations are 100% legit.
Just posting here on the off chance any of you have had success finding a therapist who provides a more sensual experience.
There are several outlets in the area. And many therapists at each outlet.
PM me if you want.I've used massage envy a few times in the past and there is no menu as far as I can tell just the massage. To be honest, the ladies at the AMP's do better massages than the ladies at envy. However you can get a nice conversation in English if that means anything to you. Maybe someone has had a different experience?
Luv Massage
01-15-15, 12:15
This post is more of a question regarding the "P-" AMPs. In some of these places it is only one girl out of many that offer extras. With staff turnover, sometimes it drops to none out of many. At that point it would be a "see" rather than a "P- The question is, what criteria do we use to know when the list should be updated. One suggestion might be for members to send a PM to JimJim if they have success at a "P-" establishment. If enough time goes by without an update on an AMP (say, 3 or 4 months) then JimJim might drop it to a "see". I think the PM route might be more prudent. The management at some of the "P-" places actively discourage HE. If they find out that one of their staff has offered extras, that staff member suddenly "went back to NY". I know of at least one instance where that happened, not from a posting on this site but from a customer being less than discreet when calling ahead for an appointment (found out from one of the other girls).
Of course, my suggestion does not fly unless JimJim gives an explicit ok. Any other suggestions are welcome. I have had some luck with "P-" sites after spending multiple sessions building a relationship with a girl. Then one day she starts giving me some extras. I usually avoid posting reports since the experience is not what the average monger can expect to receive. I would not mind sending a PM to a discreet monger such as JimJim letting him know that the "P-" is still accurate.
Food for thought. Maybe this will generate some discussion. JimJim's list is great. Just trying to see whether we can be proactive in keeping it up-to-date.
Luv Massage
01-15-15, 13:24
I would not mind sending a PM to a discreet monger such as JimJim letting him know that the "P-" is still accurate.
If JimJim receives sufficient PMs, he might judge the rating as too low and raise it from a "P-" to a "P" or "P+". That would be welcome news for all of us, even absent detailed reports (as much as we savor those).
I've been given a cert for a free massage. And know full well that most of these Massage Envy locations are 100% legit.
Just posting here on the off chance any of you have had success finding a therapist who provides a more sensual experience.
There are several outlets in the area. And many therapists at each outlet.
PM me if you want.Nice, just sent you a PM.
So far I have been surprized that most everyone agrees with the ratings. Sometimes my PM box gets full and I usally only update if a Senior or trusted regular lets me know. Most of the time its easy to see by their posts if a regular is OK.
I do monitor the Boards and try to hit as many places as possible. Also I am interested in getting places that were a "C" back to a "P" or better. This list is only as good as the info I get. Thanks to everyone.
If JimJim receives sufficient PMs, he might judge the rating as too low and raise it from a "P-" to a "P" or "P+". That would be welcome news for all of us, even absent detailed reports (as much as we savor those).
www.ultimaterelaxationspa.com Sounds new, anyone tried this one?
Luv Massage
01-15-15, 22:41
www.ultimaterelaxationspa.com Sounds new, anyone tried this one?Might just TOFTT on this one. Nice website; well laid out, professionally done, estimated drive times from various location, etc. Bit of a drive for me, hour+, but it could be worth it for a 2 hr massage, unless the massage quality sucks. Probably in a week or so. I'll post a report.
Flockshepherd
01-16-15, 09:49
Nothing more seemed to be available and she remembered me. She does massage with less clothes on but charges WAY more than the good old days. Works a real job so availability is infrequent.I've seen Genny 3 times since she resurfaced and I don't find her rates out of line at all. In fact if you tipped her before the rates haven't really changed at all. Not sure what you consider WAY more but her massage is really good. Just my 2 cents.
Unless I can find a local non-parlor provider I plan on making a trip up to VIP Thursday or Friday evening. I have previously been using another site for AMP reviews (and a good advertiser on this site) but I am quickly preferring the depth of knowledge here. The other reviews point to Hannah as a comfortable provider. Are there better ladies to ask for? Certain times?
Thank you all.I haven't been to VIP in a while, but I do remember Hannah from several years ago. She was very accommodating and fun, but I don't think she's been around for some time. Either she has returned (which would be great to know) or the reviews you are looking at are from some time ago. Either way, I'm sure you will have a great time and I look forward to your report.
FunTimes12
01-16-15, 12:24
www.ultimaterelaxationspa.com Sounds new, anyone tried this one?I'm headed to that area over the weekend. I may TOFTT, but if anyone else does prior to, I would love to get some intel so it may not end up a waste for me. If I get a chance to stop, I'll write up a good review on it.
SlantedLights
01-16-15, 13:01
I've seen Genny 3 times since she resurfaced and I don't find her rates out of line at all. In fact if you tipped her before the rates haven't really changed at all. Not sure what you consider WAY more but her massage is really good. Just my 2 cents.2 cents? That is definitely not bad. Not bad at all.
So I have enjoyed the experiences of the AMPs for about 6 months and I am looking for a change of pace. Looking for a female therapist for deep tissue massage. That is not afraid to get her hands dirty. Somewhat of a lower back and leg specialist that recognizes that massages are intimate encounters as well. Thanks for all the research. I have tried several of the better rated places and was not disapointed.
Stopped by Studio few days ago. Was greeting by an older lady, maybe late 30's, looks would be a 6 honestly. My back was really sore and I didn't mind. Great massage, told her what to do and she took direction well. On the flip, she asked a dozen times if I had been there before. Left happy.
Flockshepherd
01-16-15, 21:14
I've seen Genny 3 times since she resurfaced and I don't find her rates out of line at all. In fact if you tipped her before the rates haven't really changed at all. Not sure what you consider WAY more but her massage is really good. Just my 2 cents.Saw Genny again today, unusual because she told me earlier that she only works Saturday and perhaps one other day per week and I had seen her BP post twice already this week. She told me she quit her regular job and is now pursuing her massage career full time. I'm sure her old regulars will be tickled pink. She surely tickled me pink. Treat her right fellas. She also told me she adjusted her rates because she isn't expecting any tips and she knows what the market price for comparable services is even though her services are incomparable.
I've seen Genny 3 times since she resurfaced and I don't find her rates out of line at all. In fact if you tipped her before the rates haven't really changed at all. Not sure what you consider WAY more but her massage is really good. Just my 2 cents.I agree with the rates being fair. For slightly more than an AMP rate w / tip, you get a mostly naked beautiful young girl massaging you very sensually. AMPs can be hit or miss, but Genny is always a hit. Oh yeah, I saw her very recently and I forgot how pretty and how much fun she was. I will be going back for sure! Her body is way hotter in person I think too. Like other have said, please treat her right, so she continues to treat us right.
I agree with the rates being fair. For slightly more than an AMP rate w / tip, you get a mostly naked beautiful young girl massaging you very sensually. AMPs can be hit or miss, but Genny is always a hit. Oh yeah, I saw her very recently and I forgot how pretty and how much fun she was. I will be going back for sure! Her body is way hotter in person I think too. Like other have said, please treat her right, so she continues to treat us right.Is there anything more on the menu but a massage? I know she could easily make a lot more money if she just offered a bit more fun.
Is there anything more on the menu but a massage? I know she could easily make a lot more money if she just offered a bit more fun.I didn't ask nor did I try on this visit. First time I saw her in over 2 yrs so I am going to get where she knows me better before asking.
A quick shout out to a fine service. Visited several times and regardless of the provider (Amy, Coco, or Linda), the service is fantastic. The women are all friendly and happy to make the experience a pleasure. A quick question though, just wondering if others experience the same, but when calling ahead and asking about a specific provider and getting the "yes, yes". Yet when I show up, I just seem to get the next available in line. I have to laugh because for me they are all great, and wonder why I even bother to ask anymore.
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