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RichardParker
05-09-19, 13:11
If FL adopts this, expect other states to follow.
Florida lawmakers just voted to create a public registry of people caught paying or attempting to pay for sex.
After an initial defeat in the Florida House of Representatives, the registry—arguably the worst part of a new Florida crime bill capitalizing on human-trafficking propaganda—was revived and reinserted before the measure's passage in the Florida Senate. The final version, approved last week, creates a database of convicted prostitution customers, targets strip clubs, and mandates that a slew of state workers and businesses jump through new hoops to accommodate a few politicians' latest attempt to get their names in the press.
As the Florida Senate's Committee on Community Affairs stated, the new registry "will collect and centralize information relating to those convicted of soliciting prostitution, regardless of whether the person subject to the solicitation is a victim of human trafficking or not. ".
The Soliciting for Prostitution Public Database will list anyone who has been convicted of, or plead guilty, to "soliciting, inducing, enticing, or procuring another to commit prostitution, lewdness, or assignation. " The legislation specifies that the database should include a person's name, photograph, address, and offense. Listed people who go five years without a subsequent offense could have their names removed.
"This isn't creating a list of bad or dangerous clients; it's just a list of clients who got caught by the police," Kaytlin Bailey of Decriminalize Sex Work told Filter. "It's impossible to tell the good guys from the bad if you lump them all together. Men who pay for sex aren't predators. Predators who pose as clients are. When you make potential clients scared of giving sex workers the information they need to screen, you make it impossible to tell the difference between men who are scared and men who are scary. ".
The new measure also classifies strip clubs as "adult theaters"—then makes it a first-degree misdemeanor criminal offense for the operator of any adult theater to fail to keep proper records.
The law also creates wide new categories of workers and businesses that are required to make state-approved "anti-trafficking" curriculum part of employee training, continuing education hours, or occupational licensing schemes.
In Florida and elsewhere, this training has proven to be anti-prostitution and pro-surveillance propaganda disguised as tips for teaching bystanders how to prevent human trafficking. Officials get to collect fees for the training, or award funding for it to favored law enforcement and activist groups. Making sure businesses comply with training and awareness rules gives government officials a new reason to monitor them.
While it will certainly transfer private money to the state, give bureaucrats something to do, and provide the public with people to gawk at and judge, Florida's "human trafficking" legislation does nothing for victims of actual sex trafficking.
https://reason.com/2019/05/09/florida-is-creating-a-new-sex-offender-registry-just-for-prostitution-customers/
If FL adopts this, expect other states to follow.
Florida lawmakers just voted to create a public registry of people caught paying or attempting to pay for sex.
https://reason.com/2019/05/09/florida-is-creating-a-new-sex-offender-registry-just-for-prostitution-customers/Florida's new 'anti-trafficking' registry will inevitably harm legitimate businesses and the alleged victims that it's suppose to protect:
For many years, sex workers in the USA Struggled in relative obscurity to secure basic rights and protections. Now, the campaign to decriminalize sex work is breaking through. Legislative agendas are finally tackling the issue, including in New York and the District of Columbia. And yet this often-isolated progress is being met with regressive and harmful anti-sex worker bills in the country's more conservative legislatures.
A set of particularly ill-conceived bills is winding its way through the Florida House and Senate this month, under the ever-misleading frame of anti-"trafficking" legislation. As with many legislative efforts under the guise of fighting trafficking, these bills threaten to make sex workers less safe and more vulnerable to exploitation and increased state violence.
The Senate bill proposes the creation of a "Solicitation for Prostitution Registry," a database that would list the names of people found guilty of the loosely defined crimes of "soliciting, inducing, enticing, or procuring" another to commit "prostitution, lewdness, or assignation. " Supporters of the proposal claim that the registry would only include buyers of sex and pimps. But the sex work community, advocates, and experts know bad legislation when they see it. The registry risks ensnaring sex workers, they point out. And, just like all criminalization of the industry, bills like this consistently end up making sex work more dangerous and trafficking more not less likely.
"It doesn't matter if this claims to target pimps and johns. We know sex workers will end up on that list," said Alex Andrews, co-founder of SWOP Behind Bars, an organization that provides support for incarcerated sex workers. Andrews, a former sex worker herself, told The Intercept that the bill's imprecise language reinforces a long history of law enforcement discourse that is unable, or unwilling, to distinguish between consensual sex workers and trafficking victims, between respectful clients and traffickers.
The premise of a public registry is simple: It names and shames with the goal of dissuading buyers of sex or enablers of sex work. There are, however, a host of ways that sex workers have themselves been charged for soliciting others. A person can be accused of soliciting another person into prostitution merely for providing resources or sharing an apartment for work, which workers often do for safety reasons.
Even if the proposed Florida registry managed despite the precedent and the vague language of the bill to somehow isolate only pimps and johns, sex workers themselves would nonetheless be made more vulnerable to violence and exploitation. Advocates to "end demand" for the sex trade have successfully pushed bills in a handful of locales with the same results: Sex workers are put at risk and trafficking continues. The criminalization of buyers the so-called Nordic model still forces sex workers into the shadows. As Jessica Raven, executive director of the Audre Lorde Project and a former sex worker, said at a press conference in February, "In reality, these laws target loved ones, family, landlords, drivers, and other people providing care and service to sex workers. " For undocumented sex workers, even when framed as victims, any brush with law enforcement also means a risk of deportation.
There are plenty of examples of how overly broad anti-trafficking efforts have harmed consenting sex workers, giving us lenses through which to evaluate proposals like Florida's registry. One recent nationwide example was the equally pernicious Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act and Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act, known collectively as SESTA-FOSTA, which were signed into law by President Donald Trump last year. Under SESTA-FOSTA, websites and online platforms can be held liable for hosting what the law describes as "prostitution. " The law purported to target platforms for trafficking online websites used for the sex trade but the sex workers themselves considered these platforms a lifeline. Consenting sex workers were able to use the websites to communicate between themselves, as well as safely find and screen clients. Those avenues are now closed to them: SESTA-FOSTA succeeded in shutting sites down, with a number of platforms closing preemptively in fear of the new law.
Similar examples abound abroad. In both Canada and France, where "end demand" legislation was introduced in 2014 and 2016, respectively, extensive studies found that the laws did more harm than good for sex workers. Hlne Le Bail, a researcher at Sciences Po CERI in Paris, carried out a study involving 691 sex workers and concluded that "end demand" laws have resulted in an "acute increase in socioeconomic vulnerability. " A Canadian study from the University of British Columbia, which interviewed 854 sex workers in the region, found that the "end demand" laws had significantly dissuaded workers from accessing support services. Advocacy groups in opposition to the Florida bills presented these studies, among others, to lawmakers alongside numerous firsthand sex worker testimonies.
"I find it really problematic that no one is listening to experts and no one is listening to sex workers," Jill McCracken, an associate professor at the University of South Florida, St. Petersburg, who has researched the public, political, and legal framing of sex work for over a decade.
While sex workers and their advocates have been all but ignored in the debate over the Florida bill, its supporters have frequently relied on a single study to argue for the registry. The 2011 study claims to show that men who buy sex are more likely to exhibit more dangerous, violent, and coercive behavior toward sex workers. "This study is not an evidence-based view of the sex industry and it does not explain the full impact of 'end demand' policies," McCracken told The Intercept via email. McCracken cited community organizer Christine Hanavan, who testified in front of the Senate that the study was "led by authors who are well known for fabricating and misrepresenting data, discrediting data that does not support their preconceived ideas, and other serious issues in methodology and ethical violations, including within the study cited. ".
McCracken said that her own studies have highlighted the dangers of "end demand" policies like the registry. McCracken recently returned from a research trip to New Zealand, where neither consensually selling nor buying sex is criminalized (with certain exceptions), and said that the sex workers she interviewed reported a decrease in violence, particularly violent interactions with police. "Lawmakers here act like they have to pass any legislation with 'trafficking' in title," she said of the American debate. "They don't. They should pass legislation responsibly. ".
The problems with the "Solicitation of Prostitution Registry" are not the only troubling aspects of the legislative package in the Florida Senate and House bills. Another proposal would see operators of hotels, motels, and vacation rentals fined up to $1,000 per day if they do not put employees through training to identify and report instances of trafficking in their establishments. This would force hotel workers, themselves often underpaid and exploited, to act as liaisons for a law-enforcement surveillance system, which has long proven incapable of distinguishing sex workers from trafficking victims.
"This would mean that employees paid minimum wage are forced to do the job of social workers on behalf of law enforcement," Kaytlin Bailey, director of communications for the campaign Decriminalize Sex Work, told The Intercept. Bailey said that this sort of legislation follows a long history in which "crackdowns on ' were ways for police officers to crackdown on poor women. ".
These bills, which are likely to become law, were proposed at the same time that Florida law enforcement is in the midst of a widespread crackdown on sex trafficking. The law enforcement push itself is a good example of how these efforts go awry: Numerous trafficking victims have been arrested. In a series of stings and raids on massage parlors profiting from commercial sex, around 300 buyers and a number of women operating the establishments were arrested. In the most high profile of such stings, billionaire New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft was charged with soliciting. The alleged victims of the sting the parlor workers were "rescued" by means of police handcuffs. As Melissa Gira Grant and Emma Whitford wrote in an extensive report on massage parlor raids for The Appeal, "When a massage business shuts down, its workers trafficked or not are likely to remain vulnerable. ".
For their part, legislators pushing for the "trafficking" bills were not expecting any opposition. "I thought this was a slam dunk, but after hearing all the opposition, it's a little bit surprising," state Sen. Randolph Bracy, a Democrat from Orlando, told the News Service of Florida. The registry bill unanimously passed the Senate Criminal Justice Committee in February and now heads to the appropriations committee, while a hearing on the Florida House version of the bill took place before the criminal justice subcommittee last week. Comments from a number of lawmakers during the House hearing made clear that they had little interest in listening to sex workers the very community threatened by the bills.
In response to six sex workers who risked public exposure to express their concerns about the proposed legislation, Republican state Rep. Heather Fitzenhagen, who sponsored the bill, said that because selling sex is a crime, she would not work with them. The irony that she would not listen to the very people the bill purportedly aims to keep safe was lost on her. "It is a malevolent assertion," she said, "for these persons to come up here and try to malign this good bill. ".
https://theintercept.com/2019/04/05/florida-human-trafficking-registry-sex-work
BTownMan14
09-23-19, 16:36
https://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20190923/28-charged-in-sheriffs-two-day-prostitution-human-trafficking-sting
https://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20190923/28-charged-in-sheriffs-two-day-prostitution-human-trafficking-stingBummer. I was looking to visit a Marie in Burlington that's been posting in Greensboro lately. Looked legit and was willing TOFFT, but I dunno now.
Anyone willing to share details? PMs welcome. http://greensboro.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/mariecream-of-the-crop/096855086792.
HptnRoadsGuy
09-25-19, 10:58
https://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20190923/28-charged-in-sheriffs-two-day-prostitution-human-trafficking-stingI have said it once before and will say it again, stay out of alamance co. Too much going down here.
Bummer. I was looking to visit a Marie in Burlington that's been posting in Greensboro lately. Looked legit and was willing TOFFT, but I dunno now.
Anyone willing to share details? PMs welcome. http://greensboro.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/mariecream-of-the-crop/096855086792.Search her name in the escort be reports, she been reviewed.
Any suggestions on two service provider sessions in the Triad area?
FSmith9009
09-28-19, 20:49
If FL adopts this, expect other states to follow.
Florida lawmakers just voted to create a public registry of people caught paying or attempting to pay for sex.
After an initial defeat in the Florida House of Representatives, the registryarguably the worst part of a new Florida crime bill capitalizing on human-trafficking propagandawas revived and reinserted before the measure's passage in the Florida Senate. The final version, approved last week, creates a database of convicted prostitution customers, targets strip clubs, and mandates that a slew of state workers and businesses jump through new hoops to accommodate a few politicians' latest attempt to get their names in the press.
As the Florida Senate's Committee on Community Affairs stated, the new registry "will collect and centralize information relating to those convicted of soliciting prostitution, regardless of whether the person subject to the solicitation is a victim of human trafficking or not. ".
The Soliciting for Prostitution Public Database will list anyone who has been convicted of, or plead guilty, to "soliciting, inducing, enticing, or procuring another to commit prostitution, lewdness, or assignation. " The legislation specifies that the database should include a person's name, photograph, address, and offense. Listed people who go five years without a subsequent offense could have their names removed.
"This isn't creating a list of bad or dangerous clients; it's just a list of clients who got caught by the police," Kaytlin Bailey of Decriminalize Sex Work told Filter. "It's impossible to tell the good guys from the bad if you lump them all together. Men who pay for sex aren't predators. Predators who pose as clients are. When you make potential clients scared of giving sex workers the information they need to screen, you make it impossible to tell the difference between men who are scared and men who are scary. ".
The new measure also classifies strip clubs as "adult theaters"then makes it a first-degree misdemeanor criminal offense for the operator of any adult theater to fail to keep proper records.
The law also creates wide new categories of workers and businesses that are required to make state-approved "anti-trafficking" curriculum part of employee training, continuing education hours, or occupational licensing schemes.
In Florida and elsewhere, this training has proven to be anti-prostitution and pro-surveillance propaganda disguised as tips for teaching bystanders how to prevent human trafficking. Officials get to collect fees for the training, or award funding for it to favored law enforcement and activist groups. Making sure businesses comply with training and awareness rules gives government officials a new reason to monitor them.
While it will certainly transfer private money to the state, give bureaucrats something to do, and provide the public with people to gawk at and judge, Florida's "human trafficking" legislation does nothing for victims of actual sex trafficking.
https://reason.com/2019/05/09/florida-is-creating-a-new-sex-offender-registry-just-for-prostitution-customers/Why isn't marriage illegal? This is the same stuff. Hypocrites LOL.
FSmith9009
02-04-20, 17:11
SMH.
https://myfox8.com/news/operation-happy-new-year-alamance-county-deputies-make-19-arrests-in-human-trafficking-bust/
They did it again. Think I warned everyone about this last week, hope no one on here fell into the trap.
Operation happy new year, LOL.
https://myfox8.com/news/operation-happy-new-year-alamance-county-deputies-make-19-arrests-in-human-trafficking-bust/
https://www.wfmynews2.com/mobile/article/news/crime/alamance-county-sheriffs-office-concludes-january-human-trafficking-and-prostitution-operation/83-a3ca90a4-85d0-4be9-909e-1af9fc54abf6
FSmith9009
02-22-20, 22:12
They did it again. Think I warned everyone about this last week, hope no one on here fell into the trap.
Operation happy new year, LOL.
https://myfox8.com/news/operation-happy-new-year-alamance-county-deputies-make-19-arrests-in-human-trafficking-bust/
https://www.wfmynews2.com/mobile/article/news/crime/alamance-county-sheriffs-office-concludes-january-human-trafficking-and-prostitution-operation/83-a3ca90a4-85d0-4be9-909e-1af9fc54abf6Must be a shitty boring city to live. Maybe it's cheap to live in alamance county? What's to do there? City must have lots of money and doing something right. Good for them if true but doubt it LOL.
Must be a shitty boring city to live. Maybe it's cheap to live in alamance county? What's to do there? City must have lots of money and doing something right. Good for them if true but doubt it LOL.I would say taxes are lower than counties surrounding it but, restaurants, and shopping is right inline with the bigger cities close by.
The sheriff has closed down all massage places that aren't 100% legit. Strip clubs have been gone for many years.
If you are looking for adult entertainment, there isn't much to find. A few clubs but, they are small, not much happening in those either. So, you pretty much have to travel a little for entertainment.
Be careful out there.
https://myfox8.com/news/alamance-county-deputies-arrest-13-for-prostitution-charges-after-human-trafficking-operation/
This is the same political move every year at the same time. Last post was made 2/23/20 LOL.
Be careful out there.
https://myfox8.com/news/alamance-county-deputies-arrest-13-for-prostitution-charges-after-human-trafficking-operation/Only 2 dudes from Burlington too. The rest from out of town. My search function must not work right because, I rarely see any girls in Burlington, worth going to see.
Only 2 dudes from Burlington too. The rest from out of town. My search function must not work right because, I rarely see any girls in Burlington, worth going to see.I assume LE put an add on STG and these guys went to a location to get arrested. Now they are being called human traffickers, most of those guys were older and should have seen it as a trap. I guess they get a lawyer than go to court and get off because it's entrapment meanwhile their lives are ruined for trying to spend a little time with a hooker. What country do we live in?
Member #6376
02-21-21, 13:17
I'm thinking these guys are answering ads posted by LEO in Burlington, because there is no known track in Alamance county anymore. Cassie Waterfalls is a girl in Burlington that post quite frequently either on STG or List Crawler, but the ad looks sketchy. I really just don't believe women in Alamance county would be naive enough to post their location in Burlington just knowing how restless LEO is in such a small town. Please, tell others not to answer any ads coming from anyone in that county.
I'm thinking these guys are answering ads posted by LEO in Burlington, because there is no known track in Alamance county anymore. Cassie Waterfalls is a girl in Burlington that post quite frequently either on STG or List Crawler, but the ad looks sketchy. I really just don't believe women in Alamance county would be naive enough to post their location in Burlington just knowing how restless LEO is in such a small town. Please, tell others not to answer any ads coming from anyone in that county.If you mean Emma Waterfalls, I can verify that she is legit (having dreamt about her recently). I can't speak for anyone else in Burlington, and knowing what I know now, am not likely to take the chance.
FSmith9009
02-21-21, 23:01
I'm thinking these guys are answering ads posted by LEO in Burlington, because there is no known track in Alamance county anymore. Cassie Waterfalls is a girl in Burlington that post quite frequently either on STG or List Crawler, but the ad looks sketchy. I really just don't believe women in Alamance county would be naive enough to post their location in Burlington just knowing how restless LEO is in such a small town. Please, tell others not to answer any ads coming from anyone in that county.Most residents of that county work and play in Greensboro anyways. Cheap living in alamance but boring life.
If you mean Emma Waterfalls, I can verify that she is legit (having dreamt about her recently). I can't speak for anyone else in Burlington, and knowing what I know now, am not likely to take the chance.Emma is legit. Not my type but, she did provide good service. Haven't seen her in well over a year so, I don't know about her service now. Newest photos look like she's put on some pounds.
FSmith9009
04-07-21, 22:05
Heard from someone that uncle LEO is active looking for 3 guys that did this to her and 2 other working girls. Be careful out there.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/myfox8.com/news/missing-guilford-county-woman-found-dead-death-investigation-underway/amp/
SimpSince1991
01-30-23, 18:45
https://myfox8.com/news/north-carolina/greensboro/police-confirm-7-victims-in-shooting-that-killed-1-at-southside-johnnys-in-greensboro/
FSmith9009
02-01-23, 20:05
https://myfox8.com/news/north-carolina/greensboro/police-confirm-7-victims-in-shooting-that-killed-1-at-southside-johnnys-in-greensboro/Totally senseless.
Be careful out there.
https://myfox8.com/news/alamance-county-deputies-arrest-13-for-prostitution-charges-after-human-trafficking-operation/With these 13 fellas off the streets, I feel a LOT safer, Fentanyl doesn't worry silly me, neither does the high risk of being shot, nor gang violence, roads that haven't been repaired in 40 years, the fact that someone could shoot our substation and leave us without power for 2 weeks, recession, COVID. All VERY trivial matters that require NO attention from LE or any state officials compared to the Story of the Year, taking these wannabe-dicksuckees OFF THE STREETS.
If you mean Emma Waterfalls, I can verify that she is legit (having dreamt about her recently). I can't speak for anyone else in Burlington, and knowing what I know now, am not likely to take the chance.Emma Waterfalls hasn't been around for at least 2 years, just disappeared. Or do you have some top secret information?
Wisconsing2
02-03-23, 21:44
JimzCatz;6323183 Emma Waterfalls hasn't been around for at least 2 years, just disappeared. Or do you have some top secret information?
Look at the date of the post 2-21-2021. That is from 2 years ago. So he sounds about right I guess.
If anyone wants to know what happened to Emma DM me for info.
JimzCatz;6323183 Emma Waterfalls hasn't been around for at least 2 years, just disappeared. Or do you have some top secret information?
Look at the date of the post 2-21-2021. That is from 2 years ago. So he sounds about right I guess.
FlipSide1016
02-04-23, 02:32
With these 13 fellas off the streets, I feel a LOT safer, Fentanyl doesn't worry silly me, neither does the high risk of being shot, nor gang violence, roads that haven't been repaired in 40 years, the fact that someone could shoot our substation and leave us without power for 2 weeks, recession, COVID. All VERY trivial matters that require NO attention from LE or any state officials compared to the Story of the Year, taking these wannabe-dicksuckees OFF THE STREETS.I'm think this helps us. This is a good thing. If they are stopping Human Trafficking. These are some of the guy that are pounding at the door or lurking waiting to rob us in the parking lots.
If this stop these guys from using these girls so be it.
FSmith9009
02-04-23, 08:39
With these 13 fellas off the streets, I feel a LOT safer, Fentanyl doesn't worry silly me, neither does the high risk of being shot, nor gang violence, roads that haven't been repaired in 40 years, the fact that someone could shoot our substation and leave us without power for 2 weeks, recession, COVID. All VERY trivial matters that require NO attention from LE or any state officials compared to the Story of the Year, taking these wannabe-dicksuckees OFF THE STREETS.All those issues you mentioned are difficult and dangerous to stop and would require brave heroes. Trying to stop prostitution is safer.
JimzCatz;6323183 Emma Waterfalls hasn't been around for at least 2 years, just disappeared. Or do you have some top secret information?
Look at the date of the post 2-21-2021. That is from 2 years ago. So he sounds about right I guess.Wow, sorry I missed that, good catch. My apologies.
BroncoMan1996
02-17-24, 15:01
Link for recent AMP in Cary.
https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/ny-woman-charged-in-cary-human-trafficking-prostitution-at-massage-parlor/
Link for recent AMP in Cary.
https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/ny-woman-charged-in-cary-human-trafficking-prostitution-at-massage-parlor/Next they'll scoop up that gang of girls that work out of the new home construction sites in Raleigh. Only a matter of time.
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