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Praj4
10-15-10, 21:27
I was in GR for a evening and I called an escort for an outcall at my room in hotel based on advt in yellow pages; viz. GIRLFRIEND EXPERINCE A vii vii iii-9v4viii, AND LO; a mother of one kid with lot of stretch matrks visited my room. She was half ARAB though american by birth. As usual we have to pay upfront which I did. After some time she said she forgot condoms, which I had to produce from my stock; again after some time she said she has to get her bag from car from parking lot of hotel. And before I could protest or argue, she dressed and went leaving only her socks as if enough colateral; never to return. Senior mongers, pl advise how would you manage such situations? This is my first experience of Major CHEATING / Fraud Be carefule of this half Arab girl, its the pressure of motherhood probably makes her so mean minded and cheat and not her ethnicity

Jum Hall
10-18-10, 12:18
I was in GR for a evening and I called an escort for an outcall at my room in hotel based on advt in yellow pages; viz. GIRLFRIEND EXPERINCE A vii vii iii-9v4viii, AND LO; a mother of one kid with lot of stretch matrks visited my room. She was half ARAB though american by birth. As usual we have to pay upfront which I did. After some time she said she forgot condoms, which I had to produce from my stock; again after some time she said she has to get her bag from car from parking lot of hotel. And before I could protest or argue, she dressed and went leaving only her socks as if enough colateral; never to return. Senior mongers, pl advise how would you manage such situations? This is my first experience of Major CHEATING / Fraud Be carefule of this half Arab girl, its the pressure of motherhood probably makes her so mean minded and cheat and not her ethnicityAccording to this post of yours, you are saying / writing that you picked her up from the yellow pages if am getting you right.

If you picked her up from the street, then I can understand you posting it here, but if from anywhere else not from the street, then in my own opinion you should have posted this at the general section thread.

By the way, thank you for this post, but for next time. If you want help / advise from seniors, follow the rule of what this board is meant for and post this kind of information in the general section, since you just register last month and I believe you have read what happen to a senior last week.

If you send me a message and you make it a one liner, then I would not be able to help you or others like you, unless you guys are willing to have more patience and post more detail reports.

If others don't mind you living it here, then am fine with that too.

Praj4
10-19-10, 00:08
This section supports all types off Rip OFF, right? The next person should benefit from predecesor's loss!

Therefore I posted here with exact traceable details; namely-www.yellowbook.com, Grand Rapids, page no 375 under Escorts [773 9528]. 'Girlfriend Experience A'. I have also lodged formal complaint under Reviews section at yellow book website.

Stanley Theman
10-20-10, 16:22
This section supports all types off Rip OFF, right? The next person should benefit from predecesor's loss!

Therefore I posted here with exact traceable details; namely-www.yellowbook.com, Grand Rapids, page no 375 under Escorts [773 9528]. 'Girlfriend Experience A'. I have also lodged formal complaint under Reviews section at yellow book website. I agree that this is in the right section, but I think you would get better response from it being posted in the General Section since you are looking for responses.

Just my 2 cents.

GrMojo
10-27-10, 10:26
I had an interesting conversation with one of the more dependable ladies and since we've been speaking well of her, and keeping her busier, she gave some info to help keep us safe.

According to her, there's a HSW who goes by the name of "New York". She has "some extra pounds" on her and she's been robbing people. Her friend, who hangs out with her, is apparently not to be trusted, either, and posts on Backpage. I asked for a description, and it sounded like some second-hand descriptions that I received. I asked if the woman's name was Lisa, and it was. I asked if she'd recognize the last name and she said that she would, although she couldn't recall it, at the moment. I asked if it was Lisa Dugan, and it was. It might be a good idea to steer clear.

The info is only as good as its source, so Senior Members can PM me for the source.

Joseph Vetri
01-03-11, 21:45
Don't go for this female. It was a total rip-off with no services rendered. 110 gone with absolutely nothing rendered. Also, beware of her friends. They are rip-offs too.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-seductive-exotic-bbw-26/5329064

TwistedBrother
01-04-11, 12:38
What exactly happened? I read a good review on her on another site about 6 mos. Ago (don't recall which site, unfortunately). Was it just a massage with no extras? How did she get you to fork over the $$$?


Don't go for this female. It was a total rip-off with no services rendered. 110 gone with absolutely nothing rendered. Also, beware of her friends. They are rip-offs too.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-seductive-exotic-bbw-26/5329064

Joseph Vetri
01-29-11, 16:20
What exactly happened? I read a good review on her on another site about 6 mos. Ago (don't recall which site, unfortunately). Was it just a massage with no extras? How did she get you to fork over the $$$?No she and her friend ripped off and did nothing but just strip and then took the money and got out within 20 mins with no services what so ever. She was good earlier. Not anymore. With the influence of her friends.

Oldernwiser
05-06-11, 22:25
Had seen Trista previously and things went well.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-companion-23/5898435

Something has changed.

Showed up and she is hyper nervous and seems 'twitchy'. Paid up her upfront, got undressed and expected her to undress as before. She starts playing with the boys for about 3 minutes, takes a phone call, leaves the room and comes back *freaking* out. Starts ranting and raving she can't do anything because she's on her period, she doesn't have protection, she never did any of the stuff we did before, she doesn't do that type of thing. Grabs her phone and calls here pimp / boyfriend and wants him 'down here now! '.

I realize the her train of thought is pulling into pyscho-ville so I calmly dress and leave. Write off loss of the money to a lesson learned. Whoever she called on the phone, if she actually called anyone, never showed up.

Kind of a shame she's gone into the ripoff mode. She used to be fun, but something has changed and she now lives in crazy town.

Bottom line, less than 10 minutes together, no services rendered, she goes psycho and rips me off. My suggestion is to stay far, far away.

Nocando
05-07-11, 09:24
Had seen Trista previously and things went well.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-companion-23/5898435

Something has changed.

Showed up and she is hyper nervous and seems 'twitchy'. Paid up her upfront, got undressed and expected her to undress as before. She starts playing with the boys for about 3 minutes, takes a phone call, leaves the room and comes back *freaking* out. Starts ranting and raving she can't do anything because she's on her period, she doesn't have protection, she never did any of the stuff we did before, she doesn't do that type of thing. Grabs her phone and calls here pimp / boyfriend and wants him 'down here now! '.

I realize the her train of thought is pulling into pyscho-ville so I calmly dress and leave. Write off loss of the money to a lesson learned. Whoever she called on the phone, if she actually called anyone, never showed up.

Kind of a shame she's gone into the ripoff mode. She used to be fun, but something has changed and she now lives in crazy town.

Bottom line, less than 10 minutes together, no services rendered, she goes psycho and rips me off. My suggestion is to stay far, far away. Called Trista a few weeks ago for a Saturday appointment. No answer, left voicemail. She texted a minute later asking "whos this?". We exchanged texts and agreed on an outcall a few hours later (around 5pm). She asked me to text her 30 minutes prior. I did. No response from her, and I never followed up.

Guess I was spared.

Member #5710
05-09-11, 13:10
Called Trista a few weeks ago for a Saturday appointment. No answer, left voicemail. She texted a minute later asking "whos this?". We exchanged texts and agreed on an outcall a few hours later (around 5pm). She asked me to text her 30 minutes prior. I did. No response from her, and I never followed up.

Guess I was spared. Called and left message also sent a text. Didn't get a reply until later in the day with the "who's this" response. Didn't bother to call or text back.

I guess I was spared as well.

Skyman012
07-29-11, 10:22
Afer multiple reports of ripping off our fellow mongors recently. This one deserves to be on the big boad.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/purrs-like-a-kitten-27/4507632

Goes by Kelly. Phone number 616-206-2642. And story goes she gives a lame massage with or without HJ; says her friend (younger pics) will provide full service and they both leave you hangng.

Member #5595
09-25-11, 00:21
First time poster, but I have been dabbling in the hobby for 9 years on and off. Well, I feel like a total idiot. She was cute, but totally ghetto. Fee was given upfront, and she asked "were there cops in the parking lot", which I know now was to get that in my head for what she did next. She starts a lame massage with her rough man hands, then asks if $ is all I can do. I tell her I thought we agreed on a fee, she excuses herself to the restroom. A minute later she returns, then there is a knock at the door. She returns freaking out,"we got to go, we got to go." I am scrambling to get my clothes on but I did block her and asked for my money back. She went around me and said "I'll give it to you outside". By the time I got dressed and in the hallway (pretty quickly actually) she was long gone. I suspect she ducked into her accomplices room that may have been next door but I have no idea. Anyhow, I am out some hard earned cash and am in a very bad place fuming. Watch out for this one gentlemen.

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Member #3987
09-25-11, 22:31
First time poster, but I have been dabbling in the hobby for 9 years on and off. Well, I feel like a total idiot. She was cute, but totally ghetto. Fee was given upfront, and she asked "were there cops in the parking lot", which I know now was to get that in my head for what she did next. She starts a lame massage with her rough man hands, then asks if $ is all I can do. I tell her I thought we agreed on a fee, she excuses herself to the restroom. A minute later she returns, then there is a knock at the door. She returns freaking out,"we got to go, we got to go." I am scrambling to get my clothes on but I did block her and asked for my money back. She went around me and said "I'll give it to you outside". By the time I got dressed and in the hallway (pretty quickly actually) she was long gone. I suspect she ducked into her accomplices room that may have been next door but I have no idea. Anyhow, I am out some hard earned cash and am in a very bad place fuming. Watch out for this one gentlemen.

http://michigan.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exotic-fantasy-experience-massages-28/4834228

http://michigan.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exotic-fantasy-experience-massages-28/4834228I am always very skeptical of super hot SPs advertising on BP, unless she is well known and I can find a good review on her somewhere. This girl is way too hot. I usually go for an SP in the 7 or 8 range, rather than a 10. That way she is hot enough for my tastes, but not so hot that she thinks the world owes her something. The really hot ones will either rip you off outright, or they will short you on time or try to upsell you because they think they are worth so much more than you are willing to pay. Of course, there are some 7s and 8s who THINK they are 10s, and they will try the same thing.

You are totally right about the set-up. Her dude was in the room next door, and they had a pre-arranged signal. In the bathroom, she either tapped on the wall or sent a text. You don't say, but it sounds as though she was either still fully or at least partially clothed, so she could get out the door quickly.

About 15 years ago, I called a SP in the Dallas area. She was set up in a fairly nice hotel in the North Dallas area, and the pics in her ad (a local rag, no internet advertising back then) were really hot. So I went to the hotel and found her room on the 3rd floor. I knocked, and a completely different girl answered the door. I had already experienced the bait and switch scam by then, and although this girl was certainly good looking, my experience was that bait and switch girls always try to rip you off one way or the other, usually by not delivering on services promised. When this unkown girl answered the door, I just said "Nope" and turned and walked away. She gave a little exasperated gasp, then called out "Doug". I heard a door immediately open behind me, and some dude starts calling out "Sir, sir." I just ignored him and kept heading for the elevator. Fortunately, it was the middle of the day, and the hotel was not busy enough for the elevator to have gone anywhere since it brought me to the 3rd floor, and it opened right away. I could hear the footsteps behind me speeding up, and could not get the elevator door closed quickly enough, and the first guy got his foot in the door. There were two dudes, the one in front (smaller, but still bigger than me) was obviously in charge, and the guy behind him was just huge. He asks me what the problem was. I told him I called for a specific girl, and the girl in the room was not the one in the ad I responded to. He asked if I didn't think the girl was hot. I said she was, but if they were going to be dishonest about who I was calling, then how could I trust them not to rip me off. He was still acting reasonable (although he still had his foot in the door) and said I probably called a different number. I just gave him a look and told him I didn't have time for bs. Then he got threatening and started leaning in towards me, and the guy in back took a couple of steps forward. I drove a truck at the time, and was foolish enough to have driven it to the hotel. They had seen the name on the truck, and he said he knew some people that worked for that company, and maybe he should give them a call and let them know what their driver was doing. I just laughed and told him my dispatcher knew that I did this already (a total lie, but I could see in his eyes that he wasn't going to call, even though he had pulled a cell phone out of his pocket). He motioned to the guy in back, and that guy started to step into the elevator. I told them if they didn't back off, I was going to pull the elevator alarm. I knew very well that would not bring an immediate reaction from hotel staff, but figured other people on this floor would look out to see what was going on. My bluff worked, and they both backed off. As the door was closing, the dude in charge told his flunky to run down and get the number off my truck. Sure enough, when I got to the parking lot, he had run down the stairs and was making a big show of writing down my truck number. Of course, they never called my company. What could they say? Your driver wouldn't have sex with my prostitute? LOL.

I got off easy, but that was a very potentially dangerous situation. The room-next-door setup is very common, and even worse if the rooms have a connecting door, which could also be an LE set-up.

Joseph Vetri
09-30-11, 20:27
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/your-key-to-a-relaxing-massage-is-waiting-in-call-0nly-48/5909805

Total ripoff- stated incall hr FS for 100 kisses and when I went, gave a lame excuse stating I was cheap and said she wud give a HJ and I gotto quit in 20 mins before her sons came home and caught me. Don't even try visiting this old women. She speaks all sweet and nice but the truth is she is absolute ripoff and not worth even 50 an hr with FS. Ugly looking too.

Bjor13
10-01-11, 17:08
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/your-key-to-a-relaxing-massage-is-waiting-in-call-0nly-48/5909805

Total ripoff- stated incall hr FS for 100 kisses and when I went, gave a lame excuse stating I was cheap and said she wud give a HJ and I gotto quit in 20 mins before her sons came home and caught me. Don't even try visiting this old women. She speaks all sweet and nice but the truth is she is absolute ripoff and not worth even 50 an hr with FS. Ugly looking too.I had a feeling I shouldn't go after our first call, she called me back and talked me into visiting. Next thing you know I am confronted by a woman who looked super rough, coded my eyes and hoped for the best, then the calls from her sons came and the tune changed to you got to finish before my son gets here.

LetsHavFun1551
10-20-11, 10:54
Learned a lesson the hard way and got burned. She's not real, you'll get robbed by some guy.

Stay away!

Skyman012
10-20-11, 12:18
I had a feeling I shouldn't go after our first call, she called me back and talked me into visiting. Next thing you know I am confronted by a woman who looked super rough, coded my eyes and hoped for the best, then the calls from her sons came and the tune changed to you got to finish before my son gets here.Thanks for the info, however the link is now dead, so it would help with some other description (name, number, etc.). Next time might help to download her BP pictures and upload them with post. Just a thought.

Packerbacker
10-21-11, 13:59
Thanks for the info, however the link is now dead, so it would help with some other description (name, number, etc.). Next time might help to download her BP pictures and upload them with post. Just a thought.Julie off 44th street. 5' 1' and 200 pounds blonde hair. She's on BP 48 year old I think. Last four digits 6443 are her number.

Ktruckin49
10-21-11, 17:18
Went to see her today I had heard all the stories about her but I wanted to see for myself the session went good had a good GFE and a great BJ from what I read seems like she has improved plan to see her again.

Ktruckin49
10-21-11, 17:25
Julie off 44th street. 5' 1' and 200 pounds blonde hair. She's on BP 48 year old I think. Last four digits 6443 are her number.Just seen her today she is older but the GFE was fine and also what surprised she also has great greek I would go back for that.

Member #5710
10-24-11, 08:18
Just seen her today she is older but the GFE was fine and also what surprised she also has great greek I would go back for that.Thanks Julie but I don't think anyone is going to buy it.

Zepplin50
10-24-11, 11:25
Thanks Julie but I don't think anyone is going to buy it.First whats going on with this Julie?

Packerbacker
10-26-11, 19:28
First whats going on with this Julie?Dude just stay away at all cost. 50ish woman way below standard BJ and other really bad things. We've yet to hear from a senior memeber who had a good time with her. I told her about this site and she gets right on here and starts making fake reviews. Unless someone who has 50 or more posts gets on here and says she's GTG I'm staying away myself.

Packerbacker
10-30-11, 12:18
Got dam it should've known better than to let her between the door and the bed. Fuck me. Well she only got. 60 but that's not the point. Had some dude come in right behind screaming I thought yous waz goin' be buysing drugz getz outz my roomz. Got dressed quitely and made my way to the door. He turned his head and BAM. Right in his fucking ear with a right hook. I beat his down hard. I busted up out that place and hauled ass. Now her man will be looking to beat her ass for getting his ass kicked. Ha ha I know I should've just left but dude was all Like h was going to jump me ay some point. If I feel like something is going to go down I want that 1st lick coming from me. Ha ha She said her name was Mary but I highly doubt that's the name she'll use next times she's picked up. Older skinny blonde 40's anyway stringy hair about 120 pounds small A cup boobs. Took her to a room off Division just past 44th street.

Member #4199
10-31-11, 02:58
Got dam it should've known better than to let her between the door and the bed. Fuck me. Well she only got. 60 but that's not the point. Had some dude come in right behind screaming I thought yous waz goin' be buysing drugz getz outz my roomz. Got dressed quitely and made my way to the door. He turned his head and BAM. Right in his fucking ear with a right hook. I beat his down hard. I busted up out that place and hauled ass. Now her man will be looking to beat her ass for getting his ass kicked. Ha ha I know I should've just left but dude was all Like h was going to jump me ay some point. If I feel like something is going to go down I want that 1st lick coming from me. Ha ha She said her name was Mary but I highly doubt that's the name she'll use next times she's picked up. Older skinny blonde 40's anyway stringy hair about 120 pounds small A cup boobs. Took her to a room off Division just past 44th street.LOL. Reminds me of a post I read on another board a few years back. Actually I think it was CL.

Chick had set a guy up for a rob and left the room door unlocked. She was stalling and not taking her clothes off. Being familiar with the chick he knew something wasn't right. Then he hears the door handle turn. Instinctively he reaches for the lamp on the table, which is usually bolted down in a notell. Right as her pimp comes through the door he smacks him upside the head with it and knocks him out cold. So he takes the pimps wallet and gets 6k out of it and takes off. Freaking priceless!

GrMojo
10-31-11, 15:48
LOL. Reminds me of a post I read on another board a few years back. Actually I think it was CL.

Chick had set a guy up for a rob and left the room door unlocked. She was stalling and not taking her clothes off. Being familiar with the chick he knew something wasn't right. Then he hears the door handle turn. Instinctively he reaches for the lamp on the table, which is usually bolted down in a notell. Right as her pimp comes through the door he smacks him upside the head with it and knocks him out cold. So he takes the pimps wallet and gets 6k out of it and takes off. Freaking priceless!Damn! That's no small victory! LOL What goes around comes around.

Ktruckin49
11-01-11, 00:25
Going back to see Julie for one more try just talk to her told her she is being blackballed by some guy who thought I was her I think she is cool I don't know what happen between her and Packerbacker but try her out yourself she has been nothing like I've been hearing until after Greek Ktruckin49 out got to hit the road.

Packerbacker
11-01-11, 16:20
Going back to see Julie for one more try just talk to her told her she is being blackballed by some guy who thought I was her I think she is cool I don't know what happen between her and Packerbacker but try her out yourself she has been nothing like I've been hearing until after Greek Ktruckin49 out got to hit the road.3 of your 4 post are about Julie? Makes one wonder whose behind the computer screen? The night I tried to see her it was a fucking blinding snow storm and she gave me the wrong address. Called her up the next time she ask my age and I say. And she hangs up. There's 2 strikes right there. Read about the other guys trying to set something up with her and it don't take a Rhodes Scholar to figure out whats going on here.

Ktruckin49
11-08-11, 17:33
3 of your 4 post are about Julie? Makes one wonder whose behind the computer screen? The night I tried to see her it was a fucking blinding snow storm and she gave me the wrong address. Called her up the next time she ask my age and I say. And she hangs up. There's 2 strikes right there. Read about the other guys trying to set something up with her and it don't take a Rhodes Scholar to figure out whats going on here.Well I just seen her a couple weeks ago sorry no problems like that she directed me strait to her door well she gave me a different address but she said it was for safty but when I reached that point I called and she was a minute away.

ILieToGirls
03-02-12, 02:09
This one is a complete rip off. She is the girl in pics, but her apt is a complete shithole. First she lives in top of a popular dive bar. Not discreet. Her apt has huge stains all over the floor, she reeks of cigarettes, her ass is flabby, and she's all pushup bra. She will persist on any donation up front, hide it, then run out in the hallway and threaten the R word if you don't leave. STAY AWAY. Tiffany.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hot-ready-and-willn-to-please-24/7820033

Bait & Switch, snatch & grab.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/executive-massage-by-amy-34-34/8014646

If you're a fan of the clap, proceed with this one. Her friend who I have dated numerous times thankfully informed me she had been tested and refused treatment. Danielle

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-model-here-for-your-pleasure-29/7908645

This one will take a donation and let you DATY, then when it's go time will inform you Auntie Flow's in town. The kicker is, she'll do this every single time no matter when you hangout. Her pimp also hangsout next door. Packerbacker has mentioned her before if memory serves me correct.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-like-i-wanna-b-two-grl-specials-22/7424113

Akenathon
06-26-12, 20:58
So last Saturday night I was a little horny, I lost my favorite and regular girl # so I tried to call some # from BP nobody answer after midnight, why? O well Kyla called me back and we agreed one hour for. 40 (options. 40 hour or 80 for half) I met her at the Best Western by 28th St and Buchanan.

We met at the parking lot, I notice she was drunk; when we get to the room she asked me to "wash my thing" Come on! That makes me change my mind and I only paid for 30 minutes. She only gave me crap CBJ and after 3 minutes or less she was asking me to leave cause her friend was on his way to her place. She does not let me roam her body and FS was out of the menu.

I only stayed there for about 5 min and leave, very disappointed. This things happen when you think with your little head, and lost your reliable.

At the end of the night I was in my room playing with my friendly right hand.

Here is the link, guys be aware of this girl.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/kyla-25/8326429

FastHustler
06-29-12, 18:07
So last Saturday night I was a little horny, I lost my favorite and regular girl # so I tried to call some # from BP nobody answer after midnight, why? O well Kyla called me back and we agreed one hour for. 40 (options. 40 hour or 80 for half) I met her at the Best Western by 28th St and Buchanan.

We met at the parking lot, I notice she was drunk; when we get to the room she asked me to "wash my thing" Come on! That makes me change my mind and I only paid for 30 minutes. She only gave me crap CBJ and after 3 minutes or less she was asking me to leave cause her friend was on his way to her place. She does not let me roam her body and FS was out of the menu.

I only stayed there for about 5 min and leave, very disappointed. This things happen when you think with your little head, and lost your reliable.

At the end of the night I was in my room playing with my friendly right hand.

Here is the link, guys be aware of this girl.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/kyla-25/8326429That sucks I have been eying this girl I have a thing for mexicans and can not find a good one she has got bad reviews in the past to. She sounds like bad news to bad she looks hot.

ILieToGirls
08-09-12, 02:19
BEWARE. She will demand donation up front then run into her hotel hall way off 28th street & scream the R word. STAY AWAY STAY AWAY!

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/best-time-ever-25/9482669

ILieToGirls
08-09-12, 02:29
STAY AWAY. I can't warn you enough. RIP OFF RIP OFF.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/newreply.php?p=1509455&noquote=1

Packerbacker
08-09-12, 15:48
BEWARE. She will demand donation up front then run into her hotel hall way off 28th street & scream the R word. STAY AWAY STAY AWAY!

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/best-time-ever-25/9482669Dam thanks brother. U just saved my ass because I was going to see her last night but she didn't get back to me. Said she was working out of a hotel on 28th street.

Dancmaul
08-24-12, 10:17
This one is a complete rip off. She is the girl in pics, but her apt is a complete shithole. First she lives in top of a popular dive bar. Not discreet. Her apt has huge stains all over the floor, she reeks of cigarettes, her ass is flabby, and she's all pushup bra. She will persist on any donation up front, hide it, then run out in the hallway and threaten the R word if you don't leave. STAY AWAY. Tiffany.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hot-ready-and-willn-to-please-24/7820033

Bait & Switch, snatch & grab.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/executive-massage-by-amy-34-34/8014646

If you're a fan of the clap, proceed with this one. Her friend who I have dated numerous times thankfully informed me she had been tested and refused treatment. Danielle.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-model-here-for-your-pleasure-29/7908645

This one will take a donation and let you DATY, then when it's go time will inform you Auntie Flow's in town. The kicker is, she'll do this every single time no matter when you hangout. Her pimp also hangsout next door. Packerbacker has mentioned her before if memory serves me correct.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-like-i-wanna-b-two-grl-specials-22/7424113Well I haven't seen her in like 6mouth but I did see her 3 time and she always gave me FS not sure if thing chance but I had good time with her.

JasmineGR
10-04-12, 08:06
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Member #5595
12-28-12, 00:00
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/all-amercan-bombshell-tonight-only-100-outcall-special-23/10722616

Was beautiful in person, stunningly trashy hot, ya know? She cash and dashed on me, beware gents.

Squash1324
12-28-12, 02:33
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/beautiful-red-hott-sexii-blessed-body-an-lucky-you-ready-25/10732985

Cash 'and' dashed me tonight fellas. Do not call her. She also had a friend with her when she came by, so beware of another one that was a brunette with bleach blonde highlights.

WolvGuy
12-28-12, 21:38
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/beautiful-red-hott-sexii-blessed-body-an-lucky-you-ready-25/10732985

Cash 'and' dashed me tonight fellas. Do not call her. She also had a friend with her when she came by, so beware of another one that was a brunette with bleach blonde highlights.She's on MI Companions. Go file a complaint on that board. These bitches can't get away with this crap.

Squash1324
12-29-12, 20:39
She's on MI Companions. Go file a complaint on that board. These bitches can't get away with this crap.Thanks for letting me know. I had no idea.

No Butts
12-30-12, 11:17
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/beautiful-red-hott-sexii-blessed-body-an-lucky-you-ready-25/10732985

Cash 'and' dashed me tonight fellas. Do not call her. She also had a friend with her when she came by, so beware of another one that was a brunette with bleach blonde highlights.I knew I should of posted this earlier. I was working in Muskegon last week Wednesday through Saturday and I called Star early Wednesday evening. We agreed on a price but she wouldn't discuss services. I went for it anyway. She arrived at my room in about 20 min, she was alone. Plus side she is attractive IMHO real not fake DD's that she let me play with while she jacked me with some talk about how she likes to watch guys cum, but that's as far as it went. Everything else was an up sell. Kept telling me to finish, which really pisses me off- she had to meet her friend and go to GR-maybe the brunette-I kept her around for the full hour just to piss her off. Beware, especially since your cash and dash report.

I'll post a complaint on MI companions too. Thanks for that info.

Dlmred1954
12-30-12, 13:27
I knew I should of posted this earlier. I was working in Muskegon last week Wednesday through Saturday and I called Star early Wednesday evening. We agreed on a price but she wouldn't discuss services. I went for it anyway. She arrived at my room in about 20 min, she was alone. Plus side she is attractive IMHO real not fake DD's that she let me play with while she jacked me with some talk about how she likes to watch guys cum, but that's as far as it went. Everything else was an up sell. Kept telling me to finish, which really pisses me off- she had to meet her friend and go to GR-maybe the brunette-I kept her around for the full hour just to piss her off. Beware, especially since your cash and dash report.

I'll post a complaint on MI companions too. Thanks for that info.Is this Jessica Star? If so, she has other complaints on MIC.

In any event, MIC is getting more consistent about holding SPs accountable for complaints. A good thing.

GrMojo
12-31-12, 10:01
Is this Jessica Star? If so, she has other complaints on MIC.

In any event, MIC is getting more consistent about holding SPs accountable for complaints. A good thing.Look in the Backpage Review section on MiC.

Blackfire
12-31-12, 10:24
Is this Jessica Star? If so, she has other complaints on MIC.

In any event, MIC is getting more consistent about holding SPs accountable for complaints. A good thing.MIC is run by hookers, and many members are spineless johns. I'd be surprised if the white knights don't jump all over their opportunity to shine, and if the admins don't bann anybody who speaks out against either the knights or the hookers.

Pete3854
12-31-12, 14:46
Is this Jessica Star? If so, she has other complaints on MIC.

In any event, MIC is getting more consistent about holding SPs accountable for complaints. A good thing.Not Jessica Star.

Smuggler
11-23-15, 01:01
Angel in Alpine and eleventh vicinity-takes your money up front gives nothing in return several roomies-place she lives is filthy.

Benz1
11-23-15, 17:16
Angel in Alpine and eleventh vicinity-takes your money up front gives nothing in return several roomies-place she lives is filthy.Her handler must be reading this forum. He changed her name right after this rip off report was posted.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-valerie-let-this-body-take-you-to-heaven-628-300-5383-mon-80-special/21872631

Bronco6566
11-23-15, 19:59
Her handler must be reading this forum. He changed her name right after this rip off report was posted.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-valerie-let-this-body-take-you-to-heaven-628-300-5383-mon-80-special/21872631She also posts in WforM section of BP.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/angel-soft-and-sensual-628-300-5383/21701975

Bottum
11-25-15, 13:18
Had a date with Naomi aka Symarae NE Gr Rap, nice apt. ; she also has a place off Madison but not there this time. My donation was $. 8 and fully expected FS along with accompanying goodies. She satisfied my camera fetish but refused my FS requests and performed bbbjb only. It was strange since my previous 2 dates she met all of my requests. Never gave a reason why FS was not honored this time, won't be back!

Benz1
11-27-15, 08:56
She was Sabrina now advertising as Lexi.

Cash and dash.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/specials-all-call-lexi/21917455

Benz1
11-27-15, 09:29
She was Sabrina now advertising as Lexi.

Cash and dash.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/specials-all-call-lexi/21917455http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lonely-for-the-holidays-i-am/21930194
Lonely for the Holidays

Benz1
11-28-15, 23:29
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lonely-for-the-holidays-i-am/21930194
Lonely for the HolidaysChanged her number and ad this time.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/come-have-sum-fun/21971608

Benz1
12-07-15, 11:14
Changed her number and ad this time.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/come-have-sum-fun/21971608Keeps changing her ad, be careful.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/looking-for-company/22132485

GrHockeyStud
12-20-15, 17:02
After much debate, I said screw it, it's 40 ss, why not. I get there, lives with two older people, get into her room, put the payment down, she said she puts the money in a different room, so she'll be right back, as soon as she leaves what appears to be her "pimp" comes in the room, demands more money, I tell him I don't have it, he finally moves from the door after much debate, I get on my shoes and go. RIP OFF ALERT http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/funny-bunny-40-ss-special/20718927.

ExecutiveRich
01-06-16, 14:26
Crap crap crap. I wish I would've read your post before this afternoon. Same scam, but I never even got in the door (thank god).

I got cornered by the room and he said his girl was in jail and he was texting. I saw a Billy club or something up his sleeve, so I decided that the 30 in my pocket would be best utilized to gtfo.

Paid for the lesson. ALWAYS check here first.

Be careful boys.


After much debate, I said screw it, it's 40 ss, why not. I get there, lives with two older people, get into her room, put the payment down, she said she puts the money in a different room, so she'll be right back, as soon as she leaves what appears to be her "pimp" comes in the room, demands more money, I tell him I don't have it, he finally moves from the door after much debate, I get on my shoes and go. RIP OFF ALERT http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/funny-bunny-40-ss-special/20718927.

EngrGuy
01-07-16, 10:30
Can give an idea of the area of town please.


After much debate, I said screw it, it's 40 ss, why not. I get there, lives with two older people, get into her room, put the payment down, she said she puts the money in a different room, so she'll be right back, as soon as she leaves what appears to be her "pimp" comes in the room, demands more money, I tell him I don't have it, he finally moves from the door after much debate, I get on my shoes and go. RIP OFF ALERT http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/funny-bunny-40-ss-special/20718927.

BigDNick
01-07-16, 21:23
Madison, north of 44th. Seedy apartment complex up the way. Unless she's moved. I hit it for $25 over the summer. I'm bigger than the guys that were hanging out in the living room while I was in back with her. I'm sure that's the only reason I walked out unscathed. Her teeth are nasty, BJ was horrible, bent her over an air bed. Monster Bush. Told me she goes to the methadone clinic for pain. Also gets drug tested by her p. O. Maybe someone should email a link of her profile to the probation office. I'm kind of embarrassed I even went and saw her, but the pics she used to use weren't as bad. You're mileage will not vary with this one.


Can give an idea of the area of town please.

GrHockeyStud
01-16-16, 23:49
Crap crap crap. I wish I would've read your post before this afternoon. Same scam, but I never even got in the door (thank god).

I got cornered by the room and he said his girl was in jail and he was texting. I saw a Billy club or something up his sleeve, so I decided that the 30 in my pocket would be best utilized to gtfo.

Paid for the lesson. ALWAYS check here first.

Be careful boys.That's rough man, glad you got out without any harm. No worries, I'm sure karma will kick them in the ass.

GrHockeyStud
01-16-16, 23:50
Can give an idea of the area of town please.For me, it's was near thirty sixth and Jefferson.

Jayce Dragon
09-19-16, 16:03
I made an ad on CL for an encounter regarding foot fetish. Her email handle is "Just For Fun". She supposedly stayed out in Ramblewood Apts. She sent me the pic in the attachments as reference to what she looks like. I told her to show me a pic of her feet and she told me no, she isn't confident in showing. So she passed. I said cool and left it alone; I knew she was faking it. But then weeks later she asks if the offer is still on the table. I say yes. She stays out in York Creek now. I get there and she's nothing like the pic (which I expect) but she did show a pic of her feet. She's a short Latina with a few lbs on her and long black hair. She stayed in a loft. I look up and see a black guy up there looking down at me. I say, what up. He nods. I asked her who is he. She waved it off like he was not important. I asked if she had her own room she said yeah but refused to go in. We sat in the living room on a couch and I was giving her a foot rub. She didn't utter one word. Dude was upstairs watching a movie. She was buried into her phone and didn't say nothing.

About 30 mins the guy comes out and say, "y'all done?" I'm looking like, WTF? And he asks again and I guess she nods yeah. So I picked up my stuff and left. I think it was some kind of setup but I'm not a small guy and I don't look friendly unless I smile. So maybe he didn't want to try nothing. She told me it wasn't a setup no harm was intended. Then she tells me to stop writing her. I think he's either her BF or pimp. Either or she answered to him. She made it seem like she just moved in the apartment and her "sister" has an hour drive back to their previous home. This is not much of a "ripoff report" but maybe I can save guys some trouble if she starts posting on BP or CL.

RedWing814
11-05-16, 22:55
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/jessa-25-beauty/26823844

Stay away from this one unless you want to be ripped off. She is great most of the time and my first dream with her was awesome. This next dream she ripped me off and has disappeared. My fault for not being more cautious. Don't let her fool you, she is a thief. She can also be found strolling the D and the L.

Benz1
11-06-16, 11:15
Cash and Dash.

Avoid this girl.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/dont-miss-out/27306711

RedWing814
11-06-16, 18:44
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/jessa-25-beauty/26823844

Stay away from this one unless you want to be ripped off. She is great most of the time and my first dream with her was awesome. This next dream she ripped me off and has disappeared. My fault for not being more cautious. Don't let her fool you, she is a thief. She can also be found strolling the D and the L.She came back and made good. Definitely great service but still not happy wit what happened. Very skittish young lady but very good at what she does.

RedWing814
12-02-16, 07:07
Once again I learned the hard way. This one ran out on me for a Ss this morning. Stay away at all costs.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/thick-luscious-beauty-looking-for-some-fun/27640081

SassyKat1981
12-18-16, 01:42
I have been on Backpage on and off for a while. I had people living in my home with me for a few weeks until I figured out that they were taking advantage of me. But anyways this girl will rip you off and she don't even like men because she is a lesbian. She tried to tell me to charge more for my services but I enjoy giving massages and having company. All she cares about is the money and getting high. I didn't think there were people like her out there because I am real and honest.

RedWing814
12-18-16, 16:18
I have been on Backpage on and off for a while. I had people living in my home with me for a few weeks until I figured out that they were taking advantage of me. But anyways this girl will rip you off and she don't even like men because she is a lesbian. She tried to tell me to charge more for my services but I enjoy giving massages and having company. All she cares about is the money and getting high. I didn't think there were people like her out there because I am real and honest.Good info but would be better if you linked who you're talking about.

SassyKat1981
12-18-16, 18:19
Good info but would be better if you linked who you're talking about.I didn't think I could put names on here? She goes by the name of Piper.

MarcoPoloGr
12-20-16, 19:08
I didn't think I could put names on here? She goes by the name of Piper.From what I've gathered, first names or street names are acceptable, as long as you don't put a last name with it. If the person in question has posted, then a link to her post is even better, as it gives us all the info in one convenient place. The cherry on top is if you put thumbnail images in the post (ala Wolverine), so that if the link dies, we still have pics to recognize her by.

ClassyNice
12-25-16, 13:21
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/santas-favorite-ho-ho-ho-best-package-in-town/26836081

Didn't follow my gut and agreed to incall. Very rushed service, to the point I was wondering what was wrong with her. After she left I figured it out. She took a expensive looking watch. Was fake so no real loss. Since I reviewed her when this happened, I saw she stopped posting for a period of time. I see she is back posting, same number, different pics. Be very careful.

Jayce Dragon
09-04-17, 16:09
She posts on CL she ripped a friend off I know for 150. She probably posts elsewhere. But she's the one on CL offering massages left and right. She posts multiple ads. She doesn't look that much like in the picture but he described her. Around 5'6" average height and a slender body, light-skinned. She stay around the 28th st Meijer. He said he went in and no one was there but it was some guys BBQing in the backyard. He brought him to a room and she asked if he wanted a towel. She left and dashed. So he was stuck but then just left. But here's the kicker.

He said that when he left there was a swarm of LE squad cars everywhere. He did not know what was up and I told him maybe they were looking for her. He said that he should've went with his instinct when he went in the room and saw that NASCAR was on. What chick watches racing? Her number ends in 0074. Be careful. He didn't get hurt it just looked like a cash and dash.

WhiteBoyRick
09-13-18, 10:41
Post on city guide. Lives in trailer park, division and 60th street. I showed up asked if she expected anyone to stop by or is there anyone home. She stated no. When I went in I heard men talking in front room I stated who's that. She stated just my female roommate Skyping. She's talking to a guy on internet. She led me into room. I saw a picture of her and male. I asked will this guy be coming home. She stated no. He's in Muskegon jail. She then requested donation so we could get started. I made the mistake of giving it. She told me to hold on she was going to slip into something sexy. Left room and left me there waiting for 5 minutes or so. I heard multiple voices again. She came back in said those guys you hear should be leaving for work as they have to be there by 1:00. It was 12:45. Then asked me to leave and she would call me on twenty minutes when they left. I just wanted to chalk up the loss and get out of there before something worse happened. I left quickly. I should have bolted when she told me friend was talking on skype. My mistake. But that still doesn't excuse her actions. I saw she posted again so I sent message stating you owe me a visit. Never got a reply. I just registered and wanted to forearm people. I'm mad at myself and her for taking advantage of me. Get with me if you have any additional questions.

Jayce Dragon
09-13-18, 18:35
Post on city guide. Lives in trailer park, division and 60th street. I showed up asked if she expected anyone to stop by or is there anyone home. She stated no. When I went in I heard men talking in front room I stated who's that. She stated just my female roommate Skyping. She's talking to a guy on internet. She led me into room. I saw a picture of her and male. I asked will this guy be coming home. She stated no. He's in Muskegon jail. She then requested donation so we could get started. I made the mistake of giving it. She told me to hold on she was going to slip into something sexy. Left room and left me there waiting for 5 minutes or so. I heard multiple voices again. She came back in said those guys you hear should be leaving for work as they have to be there by 1:00. It was 12:45. Then asked me to leave and she would call me on twenty minutes when they left. I just wanted to chalk up the loss and get out of there before something worse happened. I left quickly. I should have bolted when she told me friend was talking on skype. My mistake. But that still doesn't excuse her actions. I saw she posted again so I sent message stating you owe me a visit. Never got a reply. I just registered and wanted to forearm people. I'm mad at myself and her for taking advantage of me. Get with me if you have any additional questions.If you can post the link that's good.

ChastD1959
09-13-18, 20:32
If you can post the link that's good.https://cityxguide.com/escorts/can-you-make-my-kitty-purr__1536817011-12670535

WildThing616
09-14-18, 00:02
I'll get into details when I get some time, but I've been seeing her regularly for over 6 months and never would have guessed she would pull this on me, but she cashed & dashed. I've got enough personal info on her to make her life hell.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/vivian-escort-grand-rapids-371032

JMaul
09-14-18, 08:20
I'll get into details when I get some time, but I've been seeing her regularly for over 6 months and never would have guessed she would pull this on me, but she cashed & dashed. I've got enough personal info on her to make her life hell.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/vivian-escort-grand-rapids-371032Sorry to hear my fellow monger. Especially from someone who knows you're a repeat customer. It's a reminder to us all to stay safe and keep an eye out for anything strange.

I saw Vivian a while back and never returned. Besides being an hour or more late than she I totally said ("running to get groceries" or "ran out of gas") I found her massage skills to be terrible and the home environment to be less than relaxing. She finished the ending well but it wasn't without special requests to provide things she had already mentioned over text. There was also a car parked outside her house lights on and left after I left. My guess is that it was a handler / dealer.

Girls do weird shit when they aren't independent. Not saying Vivian wasn't but the signs all pointed to a 3rd party involvement.

WildThing616
09-14-18, 13:09
Sorry to hear my fellow monger. Especially from someone who knows you're a repeat customer. It's a reminder to us all to stay safe and keep an eye out for anything strange.

I saw Vivian a while back and never returned. Besides being an hour or more late than she I totally said ("running to get groceries" or "ran out of gas") I found her massage skills to be terrible and the home environment to be less than relaxing. She finished the ending well but it wasn't without special requests to provide things she had already mentioned over text. There was also a car parked outside her house lights on and left after I left. My guess is that it was a handler / dealer.

Girls do weird shit when they aren't independent. Not saying Vivian wasn't but the signs all pointed to a 3rd party involvement.In my dreams with her I never experienced or witnessed a third party issue like you described. Hell, one time she picked me up & we had fun in her vehicle. I'd like to think I would have bailed if I detected a pimp or dealer. She was always on time, communication was never an issue, donation was very reasonable after a few dreams, and she always treated me exceptionally well.

Wolverines
09-14-18, 21:44
Sorry about your bad experience. We definitely appreciate you reporting back.


Post on city guide. Lives in trailer park, division and 60th street. I showed up asked if she expected anyone to stop by or is there anyone home. She stated no. When I went in I heard men talking in front room I stated who's that. She stated just my female roommate Skyping. She's talking to a guy on internet. She led me into room. I saw a picture of her and male. I asked will this guy be coming home. She stated no. He's in Muskegon jail. She then requested donation so we could get started. I made the mistake of giving it. She told me to hold on she was going to slip into something sexy. Left room and left me there waiting for 5 minutes or so. I heard multiple voices again. She came back in said those guys you hear should be leaving for work as they have to be there by 1:00. It was 12:45. Then asked me to leave and she would call me on twenty minutes when they left. I just wanted to chalk up the loss and get out of there before something worse happened. I left quickly. I should have bolted when she told me friend was talking on skype. My mistake. But that still doesn't excuse her actions. I saw she posted again so I sent message stating you owe me a visit. Never got a reply. I just registered and wanted to forewarn people. I'm mad at myself and her for taking advantage of me. Get with me if you have any additional questions.

https://cityxguide.com/escorts/can-you-make-my-kitty-purr__1536817011-12670535

WhiteBoyRick
09-25-18, 13:44
Decided to look into her as I have read some reviews of her. Here's the story. Texted. Agreed on time. Picked up at location which was a location other than personal residence, I say this due to fact I always ask does your neighbor know if or suspect you do this. When I asked her she stated that some folks in the establishment do but their cool with it. I noticed when I dropped her off two were paying close attention and she did approach them. Maybe nothing but I always try to access my sorroyndings. It's my mode of operation. That's just me. We drove to a place where we felt comfortable and proceeded with our activities that we agreed on I'm not a FS fan just a "deleted" word "and a go"kinda guy. That my extent of expected service. She seemed to enjoy and bragged about her skills which she seemed to confirm. Since I was not looking for a full service gas station I had already requested the possibility of a special. Just so I share everything I was given a 40 number. That seems fair. She seems to me to not be doing this as if it's one sided. She understands it's a five and take on both sides and realizes we all come out ahead of the game. It's her lively hood not a quick way to make cash. She makes her living and seems truly concerned for your satisfaction. I like her and until someone shared a differing opinion or experience I would recommend her. Rates are very reasonable and taking in account for the lack of necessity for a fixed location is acceptable to those I think that consider all the facts at hand. I have not figured out how to share a link as of yet but thought I should give you the information at hand to make an informed decision.

Bronco6566
09-25-18, 17:15
Decided to look into her as I have read some reviews of her. Here's the story. Texted. Agreed on time. Picked up at location which was a location other than personal residence, I say this due to fact I always ask does your neighbor know if or suspect you do this. When I asked her she stated that some folks in the establishment do but their cool with it. I noticed when I dropped her off two were paying close attention and she did approach them. Maybe nothing but I always try to access my sorroyndings. It's my mode of operation. That's just me. We drove to a place where we felt comfortable and proceeded with our activities that we agreed on I'm not a FS fan just a "deleted" word "and a go"kinda guy. That my extent of expected service. She seemed to enjoy and bragged about her skills which she seemed to confirm. Since I was not looking for a full service gas station I had already requested the possibility of a special. Just so I share everything I was given a 40 number. That seems fair. She seems to me to not be doing this as if it's one sided. She understands it's a five and take on both sides and realizes we all come out ahead of the game. It's her lively hood not a quick way to make cash. She makes her living and seems truly concerned for your satisfaction. I like her and until someone shared a differing opinion or experience I would recommend her. Rates are very reasonable and taking in account for the lack of necessity for a fixed location is acceptable to those I think that consider all the facts at hand. I have not figured out how to share a link as of yet but thought I should give you the information at hand to make an informed decision.Why did you post this as a rip off report? Seems like you got what you wanted.

Ford1275
09-25-18, 17:52
Why did you post this as a rip off report? Seems like you got what you wanted.Probably seems how he has a total of 3 posts including that one he probably didn't know what section it was in. Just a guess.

WhiteBoyRick
09-26-18, 10:59
Probably seems how he has a total of 3 posts including that one he probably didn't know what section it was in. Just a guess.Wow I'm really sorry guys. I did not intend to post in ripoff section. I meant to post in review section. I screwed up. I hope someone can move the posting. She definitely is a keeper.

Bottum
10-14-18, 23:09
WATCH OUT for a con artist that advertise on CityXGuide as LUSCIOUS BEAUTY LOOKING FOR A GOOD TIME, age 24,5'3' tall, Blue eye, black hair, DD size jugs. Her picture is fake no where like the real rip off provider. Her ads shows a normal size 24 year old Lady where in real person she is a BBW. , ad claims she is of a mixed racial heritage. Uses cell # 616 6002492, and works out of a house on 419 Eight Street and W, Grand Rapids (Not far from Bridge St, Downtown) Gave her $100 and I fell for the go get a condom trick, would not let me back in her place, even threathen using her brothers to protect her and not giving money back. I screwed up by not walking away, but still got ripped off. BEWARE BEWARE!!

Wolverines
10-15-18, 00:32
Thanks for reporting this back to the forum! Sorry you went through this. I found her Ad on STG. Does she look like the pictures in the Ad?

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/other/luscious-beauty-looking-for-a/067154866223


WATCH OUT for a con artist that advertise on CityXGuide as LUSCIOUS BEAUTY LOOKING FOR A GOOD TIME, age 24,5'3' tall, Blue eye, black hair, DD size jugs. Her picture is fake no where like the real rip off provider. Her ads shows a normal size 24 year old Lady where in real person she is a BBW. , ad claims she is of a mixed racial heritage. Uses cell # 616 6002492, and works out of a house on 419 Eight Street and W, Grand Rapids (Not far from Bridge St, Downtown) Gave her $100 and I fell for the go get a condom trick, would not let me back in her place, even threathen using her brothers to protect her and not giving money back. I screwed up by not walking away, but still got ripped off. BEWARE BEWARE!!

Laptop1000
10-26-18, 18:36
See my post number 1440 in Escort section.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/hot-wild-ready/017452425385

Wolverines
10-27-18, 00:35
Those post numbers can change so we might as well post the entire review here. Here ya go. And like I said in the Escort forum. Pimps are worthless scum.


The second time I saw her was a disaster! Started good with a great BBBJ. Then she suddenly had to go PEE. After waiting 20 minutes I got up to see what was going on. She was sitting on the can moaning like she was dying. I asked her what's up she said she can't PEE and it hurts. After a few more minutes she came out and said her boyfriend was going to be showing up. I got dressed and in my hast to leave (Grand Rapids INN on Plainfield) I forgot my brand new iWatch on the dresser. As I was going down the stairs 3 nasty looking guys came up and entered the room. I got to the car and called her about my watch. Of coarse she said it wasn't there. I told her that's because her Pimp stole it. She denied that they took it and I was mistaken. One of the dudes came out to his car stuffing cash into his pants pocket. (my cash!) I didn't want to confront him for my own safety. I got his plate and followed him for a few miles. I decided it was a waste of time. In the end a 15 minute BBBJ cost me $450.00. I texted her and told her I was going post this and I hope she never got any more business.

Skip the Games has been a nightmare! Avoid this piece of shit person at all cost!


See my post number 1440 in Escort section.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/hot-wild-ready/017452425385

MrLimpBiscuit
11-16-18, 20:28
Ripped off,

MrLimpBiscuit
11-16-18, 20:41
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/lets-play-special-today/084017460441

MrLimpBiscuit
11-17-18, 11:45
Those post numbers can change so we might as well post the entire review here. Here ya go. And like I said in the Escort forum. Pimps are worthless scum.What ever her choice of inner failures, she's definatly useing her legs for shooting. Stockings covered her bruises. Just sayin, too bad.

MrLimpBiscuit
11-17-18, 12:20
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/lets-play-special-today/084017460441http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/good-vibesfun/370252112480

Monger01
11-17-18, 12:54
Could you elaborate a little otherwise this reads like those fake warnings on stg.
What happened exactly? Helps others learn and tells us what events lead to the ripoff.
Thanks.


http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/lets-play-special-today/084017460441.

Benz1
11-17-18, 14:29
Most rip-offs can be avoided if you follow these 12 steps.

Take One For The Team Guidelines.

Step 1 : Find a girl you like, google her number search pics on Google Image.

1. A Search her number on Facebook. / It would wise to have a hobby (fake) FB page before searching.

Step 2 : Monitor the ad for at least 3 days, a sting from LE or Robbery set ups usually don't post for more than two days.

Step 3 : Let the usasexguide members know of your findings from google and ask if anyone has knowledge and you plan on TOFTT.

Step 4 : Buy a hobby phone, Do not use your real name for registration or to the provider.

Step 5 : Contact her on a slow day, for quicker response and better negotiations text or call on Tuesday or Wednesday. They get so many calls on a Friday they might lose your message.

A: Original contact should be a short stay or Hhr, to reduce the risk of an expensive bad date.

B: If her incall is a house address enter it into Google Street view to see the house and neighborhood.

If she gives you a location like 3 mile and Alpine, 28th street hotels between Division and 131, RRI, Knights INN on 28th. Tell her you won't go to those hotels and opt a for car date.

C: Save any negotiation for the end of the call or even your second contact. (a car date is 40 or less).

D: don't wear any loud clothing, blend in.

Step 6 : Never park in her driveway or the hotel parking lot. Park in the street or at a nearby business and walk. Example; if you go to motel 6 on 28th park in the restaurant lot.

Step 7 : Leave all valuables and drivers license at home or in the vehicle. Only take in the money you plan to spend.

Step 8 : Inform her if you are going to be late. If you're arriving early, contact the provider from a gas station a block away, so you and your vehicle do not raise suspicion. While waiting for her response, go in the bathroom and wash your balls while you wait. (providers biggest complaint is Hygiene). Contact her to say you are here. Do not go to any shady houses, just drive by and text her to let her know you will not be coming in her mouth tonight.

A: If you're at a house, have her meet you on the porch.

B: If the Hotel has a side door use it. If you have to walk by the front desk act like you live there, don't ask directions.

Step 9 : Knock on door. If the girl matches the pic stay, if not walk out and report back to USA that the pic doesn't match the girl.

Step 10: Check every room for safety.

Step 11 : Tell her you have the money and maybe show it to her but do not give up the cash until after you receive the services you negotiated for.

Step 12: Report back to USA in full detail including Looks, Smells & Cleanliness (of incall and provider), Attitude and Service.

12 A: Include a link to the providers advertisement so we know who you are reviewing.

These are some steps you should take before you TOFTT. Please add to the list if you see anything I missed.

Just trying to help.

Fellow Monger Benz1.

Wolverines
11-18-18, 01:37
Sorry you went through that. We definitely appreciate you reporting back!


Working together dashers.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/lets-play-special-today/084017460441
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/good-vibesfun/188521899346



I tried to setup with this one a few weeks ago. She was only doing outcall at the time. I tried to setup with her to meet her at a gas station a short distance from my house. She wanted no part of that and the reason obvious. She wanted to be able to dash. I smelled a rat, I was correct. There are so many scams on Let the Games Begin or STG website, it should be ignored as source to setup with a working girl. The risks are much higher than the reward. I say ban the site.

Wolverines
11-18-18, 19:19
Using new pictures today.


Sorry you went through that. We definitely appreciate you reporting back!

WayneJWorld
01-25-19, 11:02
I'll get into details when I get some time, but I've been seeing her regularly for over 6 months and never would have guessed she would pull this on me, but she cashed & dashed. I've got enough personal info on her to make her life hell.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/vivian-escort-grand-rapids-371032Had two sessions with her. She was the lady in the pics and yes place was sketchy. 1st time was because of reviews on them, it was okay but not knock your socks off, 2nd time was because I was driving to meet another provider when she went AWOL. So Vivian took me on short notice. The smell from behind was a turnoff and I just left without finishing. Decided not to go back. Surprised on the reviews of her, not that they are bad but what she's doing now.

Girls1
01-31-19, 12:25
Never saw her, but SAME pics as years ago. Have read many reviews back in the day about how she didn't do requested acts, was massage only, and brought 'someone' with her on outcalls.

She's been known to post in both Grand Rapids and Muskegon, and usually posts many ads within a few weeks time.

Again, I didn't see her, but want to warn off the newbies who might look at her, and decide to call. GL.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/hotas-fire/872143392337

WayneJWorld
01-31-19, 15:18
Never saw her, but SAME pics as years ago. Have read many reviews back in the day about how she didn't do requested acts, was massage only, and brought 'someone' with her on outcalls.

She's been known to post in both Grand Rapids and Muskegon, and usually posts many ads within a few weeks time.

Again, I didn't see her, but want to warn off the newbies who might look at her, and decide to call. GL.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/hotas-fire/872143392337Saw her ad with the new name of Sara. New phone number, and some new pictures. She used to be Lacey which as you said never saw a good review. Too bad she looks cute.

Charlie441
01-31-19, 20:05
The smell from behind was a turnoff and I just left without finishing. Decided not to go back.I wouldn't be going back, if that back smelled of au gratin salmon. She's no virgin, that's for sure!


Never saw her, but SAME pics as years ago. Have read many reviews back in the day about how she didn't do requested acts, was massage only, and brought 'someone' with her on outcalls.

She's been known to post in both Grand Rapids and Muskegon, and usually posts many ads within a few weeks time.

Again, I didn't see her, but want to warn off the newbies who might look at her, and decide to call. GL.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/hotas-fire/872143392337I googled a pic or two, and it's found on ads around the country. It's clipart.

WayneJWorld
02-11-19, 14:09
I'll get into details when I get some time, but I've been seeing her regularly for over 6 months and never would have guessed she would pull this on me, but she cashed & dashed. I've got enough personal info on her to make her life hell.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/vivian-escort-grand-rapids-371032"Lovely, lonely ladie needs a REAL sugar daddie- call asap!"

Sorry for not including the URL. Some reason it isn't working. That being said it looks like Vivian has changed her name to Lola. Same nipples minus piercing, but she has that in a different ad, same phone number. No face pics to verify, but voice was as I remembered it.

DarkGrey
02-15-19, 18:33
Ripoff. Has two handlers and will lure you in and pretend you are a cop. Will act nervous and say she needs to use the phone. Next thing you know her handler shows up and she has the donation in her hand and won't give it back. It's the girl in the picture but all BS from there. Avoid this add in SKG.

Layla Luciano (Mira) Muskegon coming to DETROIT this weekend!!

Wolverines
02-16-19, 19:32
Isn't this Muskegon Megan? Regardless, thanks for saying something. I am making this more permanent by embedding her Ad and pics.


Ripoff. Has two handlers and will lure you in and pretend you are a cop. Will act nervous and say she needs to use the phone. Next thing you know her handler shows up and she has the donation in her hand and won't give it back. It's the girl in the picture but all BS from there. Avoid this add in SKG.

Layla Luciano (Mira) Muskegon coming to DETROIT this weekend!!

DarkGrey
02-17-19, 19:00
Isn't this Muskegon Megan? Regardless, thanks for saying something. I am making this more permanent by embedding her Ad and pics.No, this is not Muskegon Meagan. I have met her. This is a different (non) provider. Her add is now showing up in STG in GR.

LikeVariety
04-29-19, 12:14
I wasn't going to post this since shortly after it happened someone was posting adds with her Info calling her out on her ripping people off and saying a ton of other stuff like being robbed by pimp or boyfriend, being threatened, her being diseased, flipping on mongers to get herself out of legal trouble and she stopped posting. But around Christmas time, I had an appointment with her and I've seen her on and off for about 3 years and she said that she'd went out of condoms and asked if I had one. I said out my car. Now before this because I've seen her so many times I said the donation on the table like usual but when they mention of condoms came up I went out to my car without picking up the donation because I was trying to hurry I come back to the door and it's locked. I tried knocking texting her and she starts screaming at me through the door if I don't leave immediately she will call the police. So I leave the next day she can't text me and says you will make it up to me she had an emergency happen and she didn't want to get into it but she would make it up to me next time I saw her. I try to arrange time to makeup that appointment and she made excuses first couple times. Then she just threatened to call the police and report me for attempted rape and said she would make up some other charges to to kiss my money goodbye I'm never getting it back and never get another appointment. Like I said I seen her for about three years and apparently during that time she had been able to pick up my real name and some info about me and she also threatened to cause problems with my personal life by contacting my wife my work and other personal issues. Since she's posting again I thought I should report this rip-off and these threats and this woman is dangerous. Her heavy drug use is already well-known but just for that aspect noone would never be safe going to her home anyway. Giving somebody else reporting being robbed by her pimp / boyfriend / drug dealer or diseases or reporting people to the police I strongly warn anybody. She used to be my favorite provider what I am still scared that she will cause problems in my personal life and I've had no contact with her since last year. Her post on STG is down but I have a copy of it from another site that I will post.

https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/hot-tattooed/16060507

Blue12
04-30-19, 00:18
I wasn't going to post this since shortly after it happened someone was posting adds with her Info calling her out on her ripping people off and saying a ton of other stuff like being robbed by pimp or boyfriend, being threatened, her being diseased, flipping on mongers to get herself out of legal trouble and she stopped posting. But around Christmas time, I had an appointment with her and I've seen her on and off for about 3 years and she said that she'd went out of condoms and asked if I had one. I said out my car. Now before this because I've seen her so many times I said the donation on the table like usual but when they mention of condoms came up I went out to my car without picking up the donation because I was trying to hurry I come back to the door and it's locked. I tried knocking texting her and she starts screaming at me through the door if I don't leave immediately she will call the police. So I leave the next day she can't text me and says you will make it up to me she had an emergency happen and she didn't want to get into it but she would make it up to me next time I saw her. I try to arrange time to makeup that appointment and she made excuses first couple times. Then she just threatened to call the police and report me for attempted rape and said she would make up some other charges to to kiss my money goodbye I'm never getting it back and never get another appointment. Like I said I seen her for about three years and apparently during that time she had been able to pick up my real name and some info about me and she also threatened to cause problems with my personal life by contacting my wife my work and other personal issues. Since she's posting again I thought I should report this rip-off and these threats and this woman is dangerous. Her heavy drug use is already well-known but just for that aspect noone would never be safe going to her home anyway. Giving somebody else reporting being robbed by her pimp / boyfriend / drug dealer or diseases or reporting people to the police I strongly warn anybody. She used to be my favorite provider what I am still scared that she will cause problems in my personal life and I've had no contact with her since last year. Her post on STG is down but I have a copy of it from another site that I will post.

https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/hot-tattooed/16060507LV, Excellent post (assuming it is accurate, which No reason to doubt), this kind of info goes a long way to helping manage risk, really appreciate it, B12.

Lake Michigan
05-02-19, 15:40
You do deserve to smile. You do not deserve to have $300 not repaid to you. That's exactly what this person does to people. BEWARE!

https://cityxguide.com/escorts/you-deserve-to-smile__1556808033-19572093

MrLimpBiscuit
05-05-19, 12:44
Be ready for upcharge, constantly in bathroom. Ss only do er and split. LOL.

StevesMilin
05-05-19, 13:44
Dashed with my cash.

But I deserved to be taken. Gave her $40 just now, she was going to give it to her brother to go get parts to fix her car. Gave her $140 over a couple of days in advance. Promised two dates. Oh well.

PM me if you want her digits. She just might perform the first time or two.

SS.

Benz1
05-05-19, 18:32
Dashed with my cash.

But I deserved to be taken. Gave her $40 just now, she was going to give it to her brother to go get parts to fix her car. Gave her $140 over a couple of days in advance. Promised two dates. Oh well.

PM me if you want her digits. She just might perform the first time or two.

SS.Was the car a 2013 white Toyota Camry?

StevesMilin
05-05-19, 19:46
Was the car a 2013 white Toyota Camry?No, it was an 80's black Monte Carlo with loud exhaust.

Wolverines
05-05-19, 23:17
She is a disaster. But I realize that isn't always enough to stop mongers from seeing her. Just be aware she threatened me with a rape accusation when I told her I was going to leave a review of the disastrous appointment I had with her. I always assumed she was bluffing but just the fact she brought that up should be enough for guys to run in the other direction.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/discete-sexy-and-ohhhh-sooo-sw/076230307854


Be ready for upcharge, constantly in bathroom. Ss only do er and split. LOL.

Reacher2215
05-06-19, 07:51
She is a disaster. But I realize that isn't always enough to stop mongers from seeing her. Just be aware she threatened me with a rape accusation when I told her I was going to leave a review of the disastrous appointment I had with her. I always assumed she was bluffing but just the fact she brought that up should be enough for guys to run in the other direction.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/discete-sexy-and-ohhhh-sooo-sw/076230307854That's funny how she's showcasing ONE good review, but doesn't realize that all her bad ones can be easily looked up by other said senior members who think with both heads. That kind of "false advertisement" is a good laugh to start the week. It's "providers" like that who will ruin it for other girls.

LowKeyg
05-13-19, 12:29
She is a disaster. But I realize that isn't always enough to stop mongers from seeing her. Just be aware she threatened me with a rape accusation when I told her I was going to leave a review of the disastrous appointment I had with her. I always assumed she was bluffing but just the fact she brought that up should be enough for guys to run in the other direction.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/discete-sexy-and-ohhhh-sooo-sw/076230307854My lord I wish I had seen this. I dunno how I missed it. She seemed on that route with me. Wow. What a genuine fucking psycho.

Eta: to be fair recent review indicated good shit. Nope. Shes an addict who lives only to satisfy her addiction. Has anyone verified she actually has a kid? I have 0 sympathy for people who lie about that shit. Maybe I'll go post my full experience appropriately in the other thread.

Stb421
05-16-19, 13:18
Been waiting my chance to meet this one, wish I was still waiting. Working out of econolodge on kraft. Kept me waiting in the parking lot for over 20 minutes. A couple guys sitting outside probably her bf / pimp. To see when I went in.

She is the girl in pics, but I've seen 3 different ads saying she's 27 to 45. So while we're getting comfortable, she ask if I have a raincoat, said she doesn't have any, ask me to set the cash on the night stand, since we're both naked and on the bed I thought everything was ok so I did. Said be careful her shoulder hurts, tried to kiss, she says she doesn't do that. So she said she'd just do BBBJ, which was half assed mostly hand. Then her phone rings, she didn't answer it, but looked and said oh that's my bf, wonder why hes calling he never calls. Kept repeating that, then sure enough a knock on the door, she tells someone through the door give her 5 minutes, said its him and I need to go, but to come back in 30 minutes, she quickly grabs the cash from the night stand. Not knowing who's outside I quickly get dressed and go. So I send her a text saying ha you got me but I'm going to leave a review letting everyone know she's a rip off and that's the last cash she'll ever get from me. So about an hour later she replies back saying she's not a rip off and that I'm threatening her and she has lots of regulars and she's going to tell them that I'm threatening her. So I guess if we give a bad review for bad service or a scam then we are threatening these poor innocent girls. Well you have been warned she will rip you off. See at your own risk.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/savagely-good/863309307258

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/quality-grind-time/206815042994

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/quality/387355236029

LowKeyg
05-16-19, 18:22
Been waiting my chance to meet this one, wish I was still waiting. Working out of econolodge on kraft. Kept me waiting in the parking lot for over 20 minutes. A couple guys sitting outside probably her bf / pimp. To see when I went in.

She is the girl in pics, but I've seen 3 different ads saying she's 27 to 45. So while we're getting comfortable, she ask if I have a raincoat, said she doesn't have any, ask me to set the cash on the night stand, since we're both naked and on the bed I thought everything was ok so I did. Said be careful her shoulder hurts, tried to kiss, she says she doesn't do that. So she said she'd just do BBBJ, which was half assed mostly hand. Then her phone rings, she didn't answer it, but looked and said oh that's my bf, wonder why hes calling he never calls. Kept repeating that, then sure enough a knock on the door, she tells someone through the door give her 5 minutes, said its him and I need to go, but to come back in 30 minutes, she quickly grabs the cash from the night stand. Not knowing who's outside I quickly get dressed and go. So I send her a text saying ha you got me but I'm going to leave a review letting everyone know she's a rip off and that's the last cash she'll ever get from me. So about an hour later she replies back saying she's not a rip off and that I'm threatening her and she has lots of regulars and she's going to tell them that I'm threatening her. So I guess if we give a bad review for bad service or a scam then we are threatening these poor innocent girls. Well you have been warned she will rip you off. See at your own risk.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/savagely-good/863309307258

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/quality-grind-time/206815042994

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/quality/387355236029Sorry for your luck man. The scene in grand Rapids seems to be pretty meh right now outside established providers.

SlyGuy12
05-16-19, 21:42
Sorry for your luck man. The scene in grand Rapids seems to be pretty meh right now outside established providers.This one was pulling the same sh! T in Battle Creek last summer.

Wolverines
05-16-19, 23:43
Lets put some pictures to this beotch.


Been waiting my chance to meet this one, wish I was still waiting. Working out of econolodge on kraft. Kept me waiting in the parking lot for over 20 minutes. A couple guys sitting outside probably her bf / pimp. To see when I went in.

She is the girl in pics, but I've seen 3 different ads saying she's 27 to 45. So while we're getting comfortable, she ask if I have a raincoat, said she doesn't have any, ask me to set the cash on the night stand, since we're both naked and on the bed I thought everything was ok so I did. Said be careful her shoulder hurts, tried to kiss, she says she doesn't do that. So she said she'd just do BBBJ, which was half assed mostly hand. Then her phone rings, she didn't answer it, but looked and said oh that's my bf, wonder why hes calling he never calls. Kept repeating that, then sure enough a knock on the door, she tells someone through the door give her 5 minutes, said its him and I need to go, but to come back in 30 minutes, she quickly grabs the cash from the night stand. Not knowing who's outside I quickly get dressed and go. So I send her a text saying ha you got me but I'm going to leave a review letting everyone know she's a rip off and that's the last cash she'll ever get from me. So about an hour later she replies back saying she's not a rip off and that I'm threatening her and she has lots of regulars and she's going to tell them that I'm threatening her. So I guess if we give a bad review for bad service or a scam then we are threatening these poor innocent girls. Well you have been warned she will rip you off. See at your own risk.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/savagely-good/863309307258

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/quality-grind-time/206815042994

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/quality/387355236029

HandsmGuy1
06-11-19, 10:32
Great guidelines.


Most rip-offs can be avoided if you follow these 12 steps.

Take One For The Team Guidelines.

Step 1 : Find a girl you like, google her number search pics on Google Image.

1. A Search her number on Facebook. / It would wise to have a hobby (fake) FB page before searching.

Step 2 : Monitor the ad for at least 3 days, a sting from LE or Robbery set ups usually don't post for more than two days.

Step 3 : Let the usasexguide members know of your findings from google and ask if anyone has knowledge and you plan on TOFTT.

Step 4 : Buy a hobby phone, Do not use your real name for registration or to the provider.

Step 5 : Contact her on a slow day, for quicker response and better negotiations text or call on Tuesday or Wednesday. They get so many calls on a Friday they might lose your message.

A: Original contact should be a short stay or Hhr, to reduce the risk of an expensive bad date.

B: If her incall is a house address enter it into Google Street view to see the house and neighborhood.

If she gives you a location like 3 mile and Alpine, 28th street hotels between Division and 131, RRI, Knights INN on 28th. Tell her you won't go to those hotels and opt a for car date.

C: Save any negotiation for the end of the call or even your second contact. (a car date is 40 or less).

D: don't wear any loud clothing, blend in.

Step 6 : Never park in her driveway or the hotel parking lot. Park in the street or at a nearby business and walk. Example; if you go to motel 6 on 28th park in the restaurant lot.

Step 7 : Leave all valuables and drivers license at home or in the vehicle. Only take in the money you plan to spend.

Step 8 : Inform her if you are going to be late. If you're arriving early, contact the provider from a gas station a block away, so you and your vehicle do not raise suspicion. While waiting for her response, go in the bathroom and wash your balls while you wait. (providers biggest complaint is Hygiene). Contact her to say you are here. Do not go to any shady houses, just drive by and text her to let her know you will not be coming in her mouth tonight.

A: If you're at a house, have her meet you on the porch.

B: If the Hotel has a side door use it. If you have to walk by the front desk act like you live there, don't ask directions.

Step 9 : Knock on door. If the girl matches the pic stay, if not walk out and report back to USA that the pic doesn't match the girl.

Step 10: Check every room for safety.

Step 11 : Tell her you have the money and maybe show it to her but do not give up the cash until after you receive the services you negotiated for.

Step 12: Report back to USA in full detail including Looks, Smells & Cleanliness (of incall and provider), Attitude and Service.

12 A: Include a link to the providers advertisement so we know who you are reviewing.

These are some steps you should take before you TOFTT. Please add to the list if you see anything I missed.

Just trying to help.

Fellow Monger Benz1.

SlyGuy12
06-12-19, 17:02
April from BC ripping people off. She will fake an emergency call or the boyfriend will show up and bang on the door.

http://battle-creek.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/april-here-ready-for-some-fun/729532453150

These rip off girls don't stay in one place very long, so she might be coming your way.

GRHobbyLife
06-16-19, 17:01
Been wanting to create a USA account for awhile now but I just got the kick in the ass I needed. Set up a date with Allison at her incall which is a home just within kentwood. And actually it is not that bad of a neigborhood. She meets me at the door and asks if we can have our date in the livingroom because her bedroom is a mess. I said that's fine. Donation is placed on the entertainment stand. As soon as I start getting undressed I hear a door open. Around the corner comes some big black guy. He pulls up his sweat shirt to reveal the guy he has tucked in his pants. He grabs me by the neck and pushes me towards the door. Was able to throw my pants on and grab my shoes. I dropped a sock in the yard and he said you dropped a sock and he threw it too me. That is when he pulled up his sweat shit again and said if my neighbors weren't home I would shoot your ass. Guys, I am sure this is a scam. Afterwards Allison said it was her baby daddy and he just came home but I saw no cars outside and it sounded like the door that opened was a bedroom door, not an outside door. Thing is I saw Allison once before and there were zero issues. She is obviously mixed up in something now. Sorry my first post is this and not a review of a great date. But I don't want any other mongers walking into this situation.

https://escortindex.com/ad/grandrapids/616-406-7030/2/194177

Faust22
06-17-19, 03:26
Been wanting to create a USA account for awhile now but I just got the kick in the ass I needed. Set up a date with Allison at her incall which is a home just within kentwood. And actually it is not that bad of a neigborhood. She meets me at the door and asks if we can have our date in the livingroom because her bedroom is a mess. I said that's fine. Donation is placed on the entertainment stand. As soon as I start getting undressed I hear a door open. Around the corner comes some big black guy. He pulls up his sweat shirt to reveal the guy he has tucked in his pants. He grabs me by the neck and pushes me towards the door. Was able to throw my pants on and grab my shoes. I dropped a sock in the yard and he said you dropped a sock and he threw it too me. That is when he pulled up his sweat shit again and said if my neighbors weren't home I would shoot your ass. Guys, I am sure this is a scam. Afterwards Allison said it was her baby daddy and he just came home but I saw no cars outside and it sounded like the door that opened was a bedroom door, not an outside door. Thing is I saw Allison once before and there were zero issues. She is obviously mixed up in something now. Sorry my first post is this and not a review of a great date. But I don't want any other mongers walking into this situation.

https://escortindex.com/ad/grandrapids/616-406-7030/2/194177I hate that. Thanks for the heads up.

PDiddy6903
06-17-19, 05:56
I hate that. Thanks for the heads up.Currently going by "Queen" on STG and CityX. Often posts / works with a friend, Teri / Tana.

Wolverines
07-16-19, 22:50
Another provider with a terrible business model. Rob customer and guarantee no more customer. Allison has some competition. Sorry you went through this. We appreciate you reporting this back to the forum.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/other/if-your-ready-for-a-good-time/470717961036
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/21-sexii-fun-tight/833439685472

AVOID!


Made arrangements to meet for 1/2 hr. Offered a discount if I could come right away. Not a nice place. Asked that the donation be set on the table then go to an air conditioned room. Sat it down and turned around. As she set a timer two guys appeared. Asked what was on the table then asked me to leave. Left and sent a couple more texts. No reply. Stay away from Mea Mi. To bad because she's a cute one.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/mea-mi-lets-have-some-real-fun/406737373392

MichBigTitLove
07-21-19, 19:44
She posts on CL she ripped a friend off I know for 150. She probably posts elsewhere. But she's the one on CL offering massages left and right. She posts multiple ads. She doesn't look that much like in the picture but he described her. Around 5'6" average height and a slender body, light-skinned. She stay around the 28th st Meijer. He said he went in and no one was there but it was some guys BBQing in the backyard. He brought him to a room and she asked if he wanted a towel. She left and dashed. So he was stuck but then just left. But here's the kicker.

He said that when he left there was a swarm of LE squad cars everywhere. He did not know what was up and I told him maybe they were looking for her. He said that he should've went with his instinct when he went in the room and saw that NASCAR was on. What chick watches racing? Her number ends in xxx4. Be careful. He didn't get hurt it just looked like a cash and dash.I know this is very old report but she's now doing cash and dash on Division. Leave her to starve.

Wolverines
08-07-19, 11:39
Another provider with a brilliant business model. I hope that $120 was worth her destroying her chance to ever establish a good customer base in this area. Thanks for reporting this back to the forum.

https://escortfish.ch/photos/view/616-634-8669/2/
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/early-morning-breakfast/384073124759
https://www.adultlook.com/p/2978592

AVOID!


The brunette,25 yo that posted three ads on SKG with the digit6166348 xx9 just scam me of $120! She is the one that posted laying with her bi male friend. Grab my money & her suppose bi male friend said cop were coming as he opened the motel door. It was at the Grand Rapids Inn not good with links, perhaps Wolverine can help on the SKG links. It is there real pics on their ads. Live & learn beware!!

Tinyt
08-07-19, 11:58
Another provider with a brilliant business model. I hope that $120 was worth her destroying her chance to ever establish a good customer base in this area. Thanks for reporting this back to the forum.

https://escortfish.ch/photos/view/616-634-8669/2/
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/early-morning-breakfast/384073124759
https://www.adultlook.com/p/2978592

AVOID!I wouldn't go to Grand Rapids Inn for any provider, That place does not have a good reputation unless things have greatly changed since I've moved.

Wolverines
08-08-19, 23:56
Beware, this ripoff happened to Flenbob in kzoo but she posts in GR. Hey Flenbob, nice job with the wild goose chase. I enjoyed reading that.

AVOID!


Sorry to report we have another CASH and Dash performer operating in kzoo. She is at the Red roof Inn on Spinkle road in KZoo. I gave her the money, she said she was stepping out of the room for a smoke. She left me in the room and never came back or answered calls.

Link to her AD http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/best-in-town-best-around-avai/904282610446.


I set up a date with her again last night contacting her thru a different number using text message. The game was the same that is she would not be specific about where she was at and she would meet me close to her motel and check me out before agreeing to see me. This time she discussed the donation but she I would not have to pay until appointment was finished. I communicated by text with her from my home 30 miles away. I never left my house. She told me to meet her a gas station a short distance from her motel but would not tell me the she was at the Red Roof on Sprinkle Road. She directed me to a speedway gas station on Sprinkle Road. Then at the last minute she changed that to the BP gas Station across the street the street from the Comfort Inn. I lead her on with a wild goose chase just jerking her around then when when she finally told me exactly where she was standing, what she looked like and what clothes she had on.

She then called me by phone stating where am I, I then told her I was sitting in a cop car here to arrest her for solicitation and grand theft. The phone went immediately silent. Then she texted back and said she called the cops. I texted back, good they will be at her location to pick her up. Then silence on end for about 10 minutes, then she texted and said I could come to the same room at the Redroof Inn and she would make it up to me. I told her the police now had her room number and would be over to haul her ass away. Silence on her end.

I just thought I would share that info with my fellow mongers. We can not just let these scum bags pull this shit without at least trying to harass them.

CharlieBoi2
08-21-19, 09:51
Brittany aka Tatiana post several fake ads but is really a robbing drug addict trying to Fred her habit! Look case up yourself.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/robber-will-get-robbed-blind-p/185876936715

Wolverines
08-23-19, 15:18
Thanks for reporting this back to the forum.


http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/red-riding-hood/821520161766

AVOID

This is the link I used to setup a outcall. Notice the ad shows a slim redhead. When the outcall arrived there was two overweight Latinos who came to the door. I opened the door and asked where is the slim redhead? It was all downhill from that point, When I told them they needed to turn around and leave because I did not order two fat latinos, she demanded I pay a cancellation charge. I laughed and said time for you to leave and reached to close the door, the one chick sprayed me with mace right in my eyes. They ran off to get into the car. I was going to chase them to deliver punishment, but I could not see. Wow, getting sprayed with Mace is no fun. I texted her back and expressed to them, that kind of behavior would not be good for their health. So long story short, we have two fat ass Latino scum bags roaming the streets that will spray you with mace if you cross them.

If anyone has a clue who these people are, I would like to know. They will receive a response from me.

Look forward to hearing from anyone who may have a clue about who they are.

OliverTwist501
08-23-19, 17:58
Flenbob should get some USASG award for perseverence in the face of adversity. First a cash and dash, and then a mace attack. That is definitely going above and beyond TOFTT.

Tomalen23
09-04-19, 12:47
I searched for lactating and came across her:

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/domination-and-fetish/caucasian_w/lactating-mama/864398596482

Took $100 for the hotel, went in, never heard from her again.

Prog3
09-07-19, 10:36
That's Fe Fe.

There are a few reports like that. I recently told them both (her and her man) that they were probably one more screw up away from a complete trashed reputation.

She made excuses and then wanted to degrade me for seeing a provider in the first place?

That was really hard for me to understand her argument, considering she was in fact the provider I wasn't happy with.

Idk, why do they bite the hand that feeds them.


I searched for lactating and came across her:

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/domination-and-fetish/caucasian_w/lactating-mama/864398596482

Took $100 for the hotel, went in, never heard from her again.

LowKeyg
09-08-19, 08:42
That's Fe Fe.

There are a few reports like that. I recently told them both (her and her man) that they were probably one more screw up away from a complete trashed reputation.

She made excuses and then wanted to degrade me for seeing a provider in the first place?

That was really hard for me to understand her argument, considering she was in fact the provider I wasn't happy with.

Idk, why do they bite the hand that feeds them.They sound like typical drug addicted trash to me. A shame because she has quite a pleasant face.

Creepy guy who hangs around unasked for is just a beautiful bow for this package. Thank you for the heads up. I was very close to scheduling with this dumpster fire.

Bottum
09-08-19, 19:19
I posted a avoidance warning in our escort forum as well but those two, Petite 25 why o lady and her bi male friends just posted three ads today Sunday on STG, they ripped me off couple weeks ago. Her reviews when she has a date are not good! Stay away!

On A Pedestal
09-08-19, 23:23
So Kamilia has apparently reach that point in her story.

I knew she was 420 friendly from a past dream, so I reached out today to see if she could arrange a pickup or connect me with somebody. I also arranged a car date what she said we could do before or after the pickup.

I opted to get the stuff first while my vitamin v kicked in so I can have an especially good time. I met her at the Grand Rapids inn and gave her the $. 2 and she said her hookup was upstairs and should be back in 10 minutes and she disappeared never to be heard from again. Not even sure if the hook up was real in the first place, but apparently if I would have chosen the car date first that would have happened and then she would ripped me off.

I sent a few texts and then tried to call and noticed my number was rejected. I sent her an email through STG as well as getting a new number to call and text from, when I called it just kept ringing and there was no response to the text from the other numbers either.

I did say that I was a senior member here and I would be reporting this activity and that this was going to end up costing her a lot more from clients and gave her in total an hour to contact me back in anyway and give me what we agreed upon or just the money back and I wouldn't report it at all but you chose not to respond.

If anyone is a regular of hers or is contacted by her or feels like reaching out to contact her please mention that I still expect my money back and at this point a free dream or something to compensate for the b* and the waste of my time which involved for one hour drive to Grand Rapids and the one hour drive home and the one hour waiting there.

Stay safe and I can only ask that nobody visit with her until this situation is rectified. I will post this in the rip off reports as well of course.

LowKeyg
09-09-19, 07:05
So Kamilia has apparently reach that point in her story.

I knew she was 420 friendly from a past dream, so I reached out today to see if she could arrange a pickup or connect me with somebody. I also arranged a car date what she said we could do before or after the pickup.

I opted to get the stuff first while my vitamin v kicked in so I can have an especially good time. I met her at the Grand Rapids inn and gave her the $. 2 and she said her hookup was upstairs and should be back in 10 minutes and she disappeared never to be heard from again. Not even sure if the hook up was real in the first place, but apparently if I would have chosen the car date first that would have happened and then she would ripped me off.

I sent a few texts and then tried to call and noticed my number was rejected. I sent her an email through STG as well as getting a new number to call and text from, when I called it just kept ringing and there was no response to the text from the other numbers either.

I did say that I was a senior member here and I would be reporting this activity and that this was going to end up costing her a lot more from clients and gave her in total an hour to contact me back in anyway and give me what we agreed upon or just the money back and I wouldn't report it at all but you chose not to respond.

If anyone is a regular of hers or is contacted by her or feels like reaching out to contact her please mention that I still expect my money back and at this point a free dream or something to compensate for the b* and the waste of my time which involved for one hour drive to Grand Rapids and the one hour drive home and the one hour waiting there.

Stay safe and I can only ask that nobody visit with her until this situation is rectified. I will post this in the rip off reports as well of course.Wait so you just sat there for an hour? Lul you musta been thirsy as hell man.

I've shot her a couple of texts to ger her side. I've personally told her that stealing is no bueno but I know that girl is always right on the edge of desperation. I wouldn't hold your breath on the free visit / money back.

Rereading your post: her hookups are fucking erratic at best. Couldve very well been something else. Ill reply here once she has replied to me. If she does that is. If this is her tipping point, then might be time to cut all ties and disavow...

Benz1
09-09-19, 10:29
So Kamilia has apparently reach that point in her story.

I knew she was 420 friendly from a past dream, so I reached out today to see if she could arrange a pickup or connect me with somebody. I also arranged a car date what she said we could do before or after the pickup.

I opted to get the stuff first while my vitamin v kicked in so I can have an especially good time. I met her at the Grand Rapids inn and gave her the $. 2 and she said her hookup was upstairs and should be back in 10 minutes and she disappeared never to be heard from again. Not even sure if the hook up was real in the first place, but apparently if I would have chosen the car date first that would have happened and then she would ripped me off.

I sent a few texts and then tried to call and noticed my number was rejected. I sent her an email through STG as well as getting a new number to call and text from, when I called it just kept ringing and there was no response to the text from the other numbers either.

I did say that I was a senior member here and I would be reporting this activity and that this was going to end up costing her a lot more from clients and gave her in total an hour to contact me back in anyway and give me what we agreed upon or just the money back and I wouldn't report it at all but you chose not to respond.

If anyone is a regular of hers or is contacted by her or feels like reaching out to contact her please mention that I still expect my money back and at this point a free dream or something to compensate for the b* and the waste of my time which involved for one hour drive to Grand Rapids and the one hour drive home and the one hour waiting there.

Stay safe and I can only ask that nobody visit with her until this situation is rectified. I will post this in the rip off reports as well of course.We all know who you are talking about. We are the minority of mongers in Grand rapids. Most mongers are Lurkers not members. At this time monday morning at 10:30 am Currently Active Users There are currently 2474 users online. 562 members and 1912 guests. If you want to slow her business down you must include her link and keep updating all of us as she changes it. If she posts in another city, copy the link to your ripoff report there too.
I've done this and was eventually successful getting back with Sabrina. She even had her duo partner help soften the blow and I ended up very happy. Never gave money up front again, even if I know them. It was only 60, it was not the money it was getting ripped by a girl I knew. It got fixed about a year later because she got tired of the reduced business and all the questions from potential clients. You could actually put her out of business with persistence. Always include the link.
Good luck.

Wolverines
09-09-19, 20:10
Sorry to hear about your appointment. Her and the dead beat boyfriend have a history of ripping people off. They should be avoided at all costs.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/sexy-discreet-mistress/464500328559

AVOID


AVOID, AVOID, AVOID. These three STG ads posted Sunday showing a petite lady wearing red dress in one ad her face near her bi male penis, another ad standing with her bi male friend are all connected to the ones that scammed me out $120 donation. I posted a warning couple weeks ago here, and advising mongers again to stay away from them. Her reviews were lukewarm to bad when she did go thru with her dreams. Not only did they scam me but threatened physical violence over the phone when I said a bad review was eminent. Ph. 3375 X86 Bad news Stay away!


I searched for lactating and came across her:

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/domination-and-fetish/caucasian_w/lactating-mama/864398596482

Took $100 for the hotel, went in, never heard from her again.

LowKeyg
09-10-19, 16:03
Wait so you just sat there for an hour? Lul you musta been thirsy as hell man.

I've shot her a couple of texts to ger her side. I've personally told her that stealing is no bueno but I know that girl is always right on the edge of desperation. I wouldn't hold your breath on the free visit / money back.

Rereading your post: her hookups are fucking erratic at best. Couldve very well been something else. Ill reply here once she has replied to me. If she does that is. If this is her tipping point, then might be time to cut all ties and disavow...Ok so I talked to her. She has 0 clue who this is. She denies it 100%. I have known kamilia for about 3 years now, almost 4; she has never been a thief. She has had PLENTY of opportunity to steal from me and never has. She has sat in my basement while I showered upstairs. The basement is where I keep all my goodies. If she wanted to, she could have gotten an arm full of stuff and dashed and I never would have caught her.

Are you sure you have the right kamilia bro? It seems very uncharacteristic of her. We are cool on the level of FWB and I have admonished her for the 1 time she took something that wasnt hers and she seemed genuinely contrite. On top of that, she is saying she is getting fucking rape threats and shit. If this is anyone here, you need to slow your role. I get it. Be pissed. But threatening violence is a no no and unless you're willing to follow through then conduct yourselves like civilized men and do not resort to such base faggotry.

I am investigating and will update when I know more. OAP I sent you a PM reply before she contacted me back. I AM touching all my bases before coming to conclusion.

Benz1
09-10-19, 17:38
Ok so I talked to her. She has 0 clue who this is. She denies it 100%. I have known kamilia for about 3 years now, almost 4; she has never been a thief. She has had PLENTY of opportunity to steal from me and never has. She has sat in my basement while I showered upstairs. The basement is where I keep all my goodies. If she wanted to, she could have gotten an arm full of stuff and dashed and I never would have caught her.

Are you sure you have the right kamilia bro? It seems very uncharacteristic of her. We are cool on the level of FWB and I have admonished her for the 1 time she took something that wasnt hers and she seemed genuinely contrite. On top of that, she is saying she is getting fucking rape threats and shit. If this is anyone here, you need to slow your role. I get it. Be pissed. But threatening violence is a no no and unless you're willing to follow through then conduct yourselves like civilized men and do not resort to such base faggotry.

I am investigating and will update when I know more. OAP I sent you a PM reply before she contacted me back. I AM touching all my bases before coming to conclusion.Not siding with one or the other.

You might want to consider this during your investigation. This monger was not just buying sex. This was a different type of transaction and when you mix the two things don't always go well.

Girls in this hobby know how to read everything from body language and attitude. They can read an easy mark. They won't treat us all the same and we don't treat them all the same either. That's why our mileage will very and so does theirs.

Nitsuj
09-24-19, 15:50
Cash and dashed me today.

Agreed to meet at Bugetlodge on 28th street. Said she needed to pay for room and then ghosted me.

Avoid!

http://kalamazoo.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-have-funsubmissive-female/733711123850

MrLimpBiscuit
09-26-19, 16:31
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/upgrade-your-experience-brand/088416243001

The worst experience eva, once a month she is good. Might as well go to the casino. Her brain is in the pipe, wrong crack.

IrishGuy77
09-26-19, 16:56
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/upgrade-your-experience-brand/088416243001

The worst experience eva, once a month she is good. Might as well go to the casino. Her brain is in the pipe, wrong crack.What a bummer! That ass looks awesome!!

LookyBoi
09-30-19, 09:11
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/upgrade-your-experience-brand/088416243001

The worst experience eva, once a month she is good. Might as well go to the casino. Her brain is in the pipe, wrong crack.The scale is accurate on this one. The hotter they are the crazier they are.

JuanHunglow77
10-13-19, 03:03
TOFTT.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com E /723021676751.

She is real guys, but beware she has track marks everywhere and will use you. I went ahead and picked her up and we went to my room, then she disappeared. I went outside to find her, I see her in the truck of someone else. She stole my rooms pillows and hangars and never got to get down to business.

Wolverines
10-18-19, 21:24
Damn, she is a five alarm AVOID! Thanks for reporting this back to the forum.


Since many of us often find ourselves in Muskegon thought I would warn you of this psycho *****. I met up with her at an okay motel, started out nice she is petite has a soft sexy voice. Once we got comfortable I thought a great time was in-store. Like many providers she wanted the donation up front, since we were both comfortable I thought OK and gave it to her. At this point everything went off the rails. She suddenly turned into a crazy *****, she grabs a knife she had stashed and starts waving it at me and screaming get out you're trying to hurt me then repeatedly yells rape! I'm sure I could have overpowered her to get my donation back but getting knifed in the process was not worth it especially with all the commotion she was creating I suggest that you avoid this psycho at all cost. And whatever you do don't have this nut job skank come to your place.

http://muskegon.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/erotic-massage-happy-ending-an/600680801309.

BaseHit
10-18-19, 21:35
Damn, she is a five alarm AVOID! Thanks for reporting this back to the forum.Thanks for moving my report to the ripoff section where it belonged Wolverines. She is definitely one of the worst experience I have ever had in my years of mongering. Better to cut my losses then get cut for sure. Thanks again.

BaseHit
10-20-19, 13:21
She's posting again be careful with this one she will pull a knife And rob you. This girl is crazy And will most likely extort anyone that's foolish enough to send her a selfie and real name. Feel for the monger that has his picture in the ad with her bet he doesn't know. I noticed her drivers license in the first pic obviously not very smart Stay safe and avoid this nut job http://muskegon.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/lets-party/512245613704.

BaseHit
10-23-19, 07:39
Guess she doesn't want to put the effort into pulling a knife on you just send the money. This girl is nuts as well as dangerous if you decide to visit her. Whatever you do don't have her come to your place. One of the worst experiences I have ever had. http://muskegon.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/chocolate-pieces/775189104740.

Wolverines
10-23-19, 21:34
Thanks for keeping us updated. AVOID!


Guess she doesn't want to put the effort into pulling a knife on you just send the money. This girl is nuts as well as dangerous if you decide to visit her. Whatever you do don't have her come to your place. One of the worst experiences I have ever had. http://muskegon.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/chocolate-pieces/775189104740.


Guess she doesn't want to put the effort into pulling a knife on you just send the money. This girl is nuts as well as dangerous if you decide to visit her. Whatever you do don't have her come to your place. One of the worst experiences I have ever had. http://muskegon.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/chocolate-pieces/775189104740.

MrLimpBiscuit
10-24-19, 16:46
Be liery, kent mug shot up.

SweetHemiStud
10-26-19, 07:42
I got a text from one of Benz's UTRs that he sponsers whom I've seen a couple times before. Autumn, formely of Ravenna. She was in a desperate situation and needed a hotel room for a couple nights. I wasn't able to play either of those nights, and felt bad for her. And since Benz works with her and drug tests on bad experiences reported, he says she's clean so I figured she was a little trustworthy in that she wasn't just looking for her next fix. Don't get me wrong, I'm not pointing fingers at our fren, Benz, by any means at all, just stating that I thought I could trust her a little due to her relationship with him. So anyway, she asked for $120. After a lot of conversation she mentioned she hadn't eaten much lately, so I gave her $140 to get the room and a meal. I questioned her about her cash and dash review. Her story along with Benz's story about it that he posted back then seemed to line up which made it beleiveable. She really seemed sincere about meeting up with me when I had the time we were talking for a few days and nearly all day long those days. But since then she has been hard to contact, and when she does reply, it's just to ask for a little more money. We chat a while and when I say I'm not able to help at this time, she goes silent. My advice is to just avoid her, despite some good reviews, her communication and possibility of fucking you over make her a bad investment.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/autumn-is-truly-here-ready-to/072810373051

Rome123
10-26-19, 19:36
I got a text from one of Benz's UTRs that he sponsers whom I've seen a couple times before. Autumn, formely of Ravenna. She was in a desperate situation and needed a hotel room for a couple nights. I wasn't able to play either of those nights, and felt bad for her. And since Benz works with her and drug tests on bad experiences reported, he says she's clean so I figured she was a little trustworthy in that she wasn't just looking for her next fix. Don't get me wrong, I'm not pointing fingers at our fren, Benz, by any means at all, just stating that I thought I could trust her a little due to her relationship with him. So anyway, she asked for $120. After a lot of conversation she mentioned she hadn't eaten much lately, so I gave her $140 to get the room and a meal. I questioned her about her cash and dash review. Her story along with Benz's story about it that he posted back then seemed to line up which made it beleiveable. She really seemed sincere about meeting up with me when I had the time we were talking for a few days and nearly all day long those days. But since then she has been hard to contact, and when she does reply, it's just to ask for a little more money. We chat a while and when I say I'm not able to help at this time, she goes silent. My advice is to just avoid her, despite some good reviews, her communication and possibility of fucking you over make her a bad investment.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/autumn-is-truly-here-ready-to/072810373051Just recently I had a girl I've seen a few times text me and ask if I could Paypal her some money. Told me she would take it off the next time I saw her. I ignored her and then deleted her from my phone. Never give cash advances. Don't believe their sad stories.

SweetHemiStud
10-26-19, 23:00
Just recently I had a girl I've seen a few times text me and ask if I could Paypal her some money. Told me she would take it off the next time I saw her. I ignored her and then deleted her from my phone. Never give cash advances. Don't believe their sad stories.Yeah, that's a lesson I have to keep learning over and over again.

Libertas
10-30-19, 09:04
Yeah, that's a lesson I have to keep learning over and over again.Unfortunately it's stories like this that are difficult to read. We want to be good people and kind-hearted. The world though is full of people willing to take advantage of that. Sad really.

SweetHemiStud
10-30-19, 20:59
Hey Guys,

(this was a second incident while trying to square up on my previous review left recently).

I met up with Autumn, the UTR who used to be from Ravenna. She played me for a fool the other day. I paid her the money up front for an incall visit. She claimed she had to pay for the room for the day before we could get in. I parked at the hotel handed her the cash and she went into the office. About 10-15 minutes pass and she texts me that she didn't know her dad was at the hotel and asked me to come back in 30 Minutes. Although there were a few we'll say pink flags leading up to this. The full on red flag was that she said she slept out in the cold last night and wanted to get a room to warm up tonight. But somehow "her dad" was already at the hotel waiting for her, but they didn't even have a room yet. So that seems weird. I contacted a buddy who knows her and enjoys her services as well, asking about her. He mentioned he was with her just a half hour ago. And the timestamp on the message would've been right around when she dashed on me and ignored my texts. I don't care that he saw her. I woulda been fine if she had to shift our appt to accommodate someone else, but to dash with the cash and then ignore me afterwards was pretty disturbing. She has other reviews specifying that she dashed as well, so it seems this is a pattern. I even questioned her about it, and she had a kind of believable story. Because it was kind of filled in the blanks of the story a fellow monger here mentioned when he researched the issue with her. The couple times I was able to see her, she was GREAT. But was pretty hard to contact and schedule, so a bit frustrating there, but now that she stiffed me, instead of relieving my stiffness, I'm pretty perterbed and warn all of you as well as ask a favor of not doing business with her so she pays for her mistakes one way or another. Either pay up or lose a shit-ton of business from poor reviews.

Wolverines
10-31-19, 00:32
Seems to be an uptick in cash and dash providers. Thanks for reporting this back to the forum.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/autumn-is-truly-here-ready-to/072810373051

AVOID


Hey Guys,

(this was a second incident while trying to square up on my previous review left recently).

I met up with Autumn, the UTR who used to be from Ravenna. She played me for a fool the other day. I paid her the money up front for an incall visit. She claimed she had to pay for the room for the day before we could get in. I parked at the hotel handed her the cash and she went into the office. About 10-15 minutes pass and she texts me that she didn't know her dad was at the hotel and asked me to come back in 30 Minutes. Although there were a few we'll say pink flags leading up to this. The full on red flag was that she said she slept out in the cold last night and wanted to get a room to warm up tonight. But somehow "her dad" was already at the hotel waiting for her, but they didn't even have a room yet. So that seems weird. I contacted a buddy who knows her and enjoys her services as well, asking about her. He mentioned he was with her just a half hour ago. And the timestamp on the message would've been right around when she dashed on me and ignored my texts. I don't care that he saw her. I woulda been fine if she had to shift our appt to accommodate someone else, but to dash with the cash and then ignore me afterwards was pretty disturbing. She has other reviews specifying that she dashed as well, so it seems this is a pattern. I even questioned her about it, and she had a kind of believable story. Because it was kind of filled in the blanks of the story a fellow monger here mentioned when he researched the issue with her. The couple times I was able to see her, she was GREAT. But was pretty hard to contact and schedule, so a bit frustrating there, but now that she stiffed me, instead of relieving my stiffness, I'm pretty perterbed and warn all of you as well as ask a favor of not doing business with her so she pays for her mistakes one way or another. Either pay up or lose a shit-ton of business from poor reviews.

Member #6094
10-31-19, 17:50
Well the ladies aren't the only ones ripping people off. I was just told and then shown the money from a provider that was left for her. Its 100% fake and now she is taking a extra step by marking her Bill's before anything takes place between her and her client.

Benz1
11-01-19, 15:51
Seems to be an uptick in cash and dash providers. Thanks for reporting this back to the forum.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/autumn-is-truly-here-ready-to/072810373051

AVOIDAs of 3:30 today she confessed to her rip offs.

According to Autumn, she will be in county for the next 4 months for unpaid fines from dirty deeds done prior to doing us dirty.

SweetHemiStud
11-01-19, 21:13
As of 3:30 today she confessed to her rip offs.

According to Autumn, she will be in county for the next 4 months for unpaid fines from dirty deeds done prior to doing us dirty.So she'll likely be coming out begging us for more because she'll be broke af. Problem is, it'll take her a couple weeks to catch up on debt before any of us start paying her again.

NoseJelly
11-01-19, 22:31
As of 3:30 today she confessed to her rip offs.

According to Autumn, she will be in county for the next 4 months for unpaid fines from dirty deeds done prior to doing us dirty.She must owe a lot on the fines. Usually, it's 10 bucks a day if fines can't be paid. I'll bet there's more to her story that she'll never tell.

Benjamin99
11-02-19, 10:05
Benz1.

I'm curious, is this the same Autumn that does the gum jobs or is she another gal?

Thanks,

Ben.


As of 3:30 today she confessed to her rip offs.

According to Autumn, she will be in county for the next 4 months for unpaid fines from dirty deeds done prior to doing us dirty.

Benz1
11-02-19, 11:52
Benz1.

I'm curious, is this the same Autumn that does the gum jobs or is she another gal?

Thanks,

Ben.Same Autumn, dam shame too.

Her gum job BJ is awesome now she's doing cash and dash instead of swallowing. Said she was going away yesterday but her FB is active today. Someone else could be logged in on her account but I'm suspicious. She was a good UTR, once she started spreading her wings and posting ads she flew the wrong direction.
This is proof once again, never pay in advance.

Spartan191
11-02-19, 17:43
Same Autumn, dam shame too.

Her gum job BJ is awesome now she's doing cash and dash instead of swallowing. Said she was going away yesterday but her FB is active today. Someone else could be logged in on her account but I'm suspicious. She was a good UTR, once she started spreading her wings and posting ads she flew the wrong direction.
This is proof once again, never pay in advance.I talked to her yesterday morning. She wanted to do a $40 car date "to keep her phone on so she could continue to communicate" I told her I was out of town and could not see her. She said ok but that she may go "MIA".

I asked her about her drama and she did confess that she took advantage of one man and that she was going to "make it up to him".

She went on to explain that there "were lots of lies from people she does not know or never met".

She said that she is done with the BS and has her State ID came and she was going to get a real job and just see her regulars.

I then asked her about a boyfriend and little other chit chat and I heard nothing back.

So as we all know there is a lot of denial from these ladies and a lot of drama that follows them around as a provider.

To bad, because as Benz mentioned. Her BBBJWS are wonderful and she has a real nice tight pussy as well.

Have fun and be safe.

Benz1
11-04-19, 12:27
I'm getting questions about the Kylie review I mentioned. If you still want to see her, make sure you get your honey before you give her money.

This is not my review, it is a copy and paste from another monger review moved to post in Rip offs

In my Dream Cute pics, decent menu and fair prices led me to reach out to Alayna a few days back, and plan an eventful 2 hr evening. The Text back and forth setting it up was fun, and as I said in my other post we discussed a ton of stuff, including price. We agree to 2 hrs for 3. Here's how the dream unfolded into a Nightmare.

1) Checked with me 4-5 times that I was for real and still coming. We agreed 6:30 pm at location. I got there fast and she said she should be there very soon. At 7:08 pm she texted Sorry for being half an hour late, but she would make it up to me, should just be a few more minutes. I said all I needed was a room number and to drive safe. At 7:32 I texted asking for an eta. I said I didn't mind delays but just preferred up front honesty. She apologized and said getting in the room now at 7:37. At 7:$7 she said she had a problem with the key and was still dealing with the staff. I said Ok. 7:51 she said "Your not a cop right? I said No. At 7:55 I got a room # and headed up.

2) She was high on something. Not pot because I wouldn't have minded, but stumbling etc. She apologized for the delay and we talked a bit. She had been smoking and the room smelled like cigarettes. Eventually some clothes came off and she apologized about some scabs, admitted she had picked at herself when on cocaine, but she was clean now. I asked when that happened and she said 4 days ago. SHe looks somewhat like the pictures (like many girls) but again, like it had been the roughest month ever since Benz post / pics. ANd she said it had been rough.

3). She asked me if she could see the donation, and I didn't mine proving I was there legit. I put it next to the TV. Once she got mostly naked she said she was going to put it in her purse. I didn't see the harm in it since I figured she wouldn't run out of the room like that into the cold. Then we laid down on the bed together.

4) I love DATY so started with that, and it was ok, but te view not quite what I expected. She barely reacted (and I know from beccas / wife / gfs feedback that it wasnt me), most likely due to the drugs. She did enjoy it and moaned a little, but was so out of it. I asked for 69 and she said OK, let me grab a condom. I said I thought the BJ was BB based on her add and she said No, got to be safe. No upsell, just No. I rolled with it.

5) The 69 was solid, and props for her getting me up and to completion with a CBJ. I was surprised I could, as I'm not a Condom guy (new to this, 20 years of relationship sex with 3 exes).

6) Right after that she said "intermission" and I was cool with that since I needed a reprieve. It had been maybe 30 min since I entered the door. She said she wanted a Cig and I was like ok. I didn't think about it, but she lit up right there. I cleaned up the room some, hid my clothes in the mini-fridge so they wouldn't smell like smoke, and tried to figure out what to do next. I was somewhat tired, and honestly only wanted to continue because I was invested. And she was still overall attractive to me.

7) Basically then she starts talking about having to leave soon. How she had to get someplace to pay her bills tog et her phone back on, and how it would just be cutting short like 15 minutes. I was like WTF, its been less than an hr. She said she got there at 7:20 p and that's when the clock started for her. I had her look at her phone and asked her when she texted me a room number and she said 7:55. It was 9 pm. But she had to go. Since I was now upset and over it I said I was fine with cutting it short, but it was 1 hr and she should give me back half and we call it even. She said No, I got my times worth. I went over the timeframe againa nd she kept bringing upt he traffic, the time it took t book a room, etc, like that was all my problem. I said I understood she was desperate, but I expected us to stay another hr and now I was fine with us leaving, but she owed me at least $100 back. I would call it even. Remember, the money is in her purse because I'm an idiot. I Said I wasnt going to force the issue or try to take the money back, but I would be putting up a review of this encounter. She apologized and said the Money is alreayd sepnt and she can't give me back any of it. SHe had to pay rent, the phone, etc. I told her she should honor her commitment or give back $100 at least and she declined. I said she should make it up in the future at minimum and she said thank you and promised she would. (*yes I know there is at most a 5% chance of this, but again I wasnt going to physically take the money from her).

I told her I would be posting this entire review and she asked me not to screw her over, and I said I wasnt, just going to be Honest. I will update If / When I get a Make Up date where I actually get what was payed for and discussed (BBBJ, msog, cfs).

TLDR: 90 Minutes Late, Smoked in Room, CBJ after Marketing BBBJ, Cut 2 hr Session into 1 Hr, Paid 3 for 40 minutes with CBJ, DATY and 69. Can't recommend her to anyone until she gets her sh! T together.

Very disappointing 2nd experience (I'm batting 50/50 so far. Becca rocks).

Reacher2215
11-04-19, 14:51
I'm getting questions about the Kylie review I mentioned. If you still want to see her, make sure you get your honey before you give her money.

This is not my review, it is a copy and paste from another monger review moved to post in Rip offs

In my Dream Cute pics, decent menu and fair prices led me to reach out to Alayna a few days back, and plan an eventful 2 hr evening. The Text back and forth setting it up was fun, and as I said in my other post we discussed a ton of stuff, including price. We agree to 2 hrs for 3. Here's how the dream unfolded into a Nightmare.

1) Checked with me 4-5 times that I was for real and still coming. We agreed 6:30 pm at location. I got there fast and she said she should be there very soon. At 7:08 pm she texted Sorry for being half an hour late, but she would make it up to me, should just be a few more minutes. I said all I needed was a room number and to drive safe. At 7:32 I texted asking for an eta. I said I didn't mind delays but just preferred up front honesty. She apologized and said getting in the room now at 7:37. At 7:$7 she said she had a problem with the key and was still dealing with the staff. I said Ok. 7:51 she said "Your not a cop right? I said No. At 7:55 I got a room # and headed up.

2) She was high on something. Not pot because I wouldn't have minded, but stumbling etc. She apologized for the delay and we talked a bit. She had been smoking and the room smelled like cigarettes. Eventually some clothes came off and she apologized about some scabs, admitted she had picked at herself when on cocaine, but she was clean now. I asked when that happened and she said 4 days ago. SHe looks somewhat like the pictures (like many girls) but again, like it had been the roughest month ever since Benz post / pics. ANd she said it had been rough.

3). She asked me if she could see the donation, and I didn't mine proving I was there legit. I put it next to the TV. Once she got mostly naked she said she was going to put it in her purse. I didn't see the harm in it since I figured she wouldn't run out of the room like that into the cold. Then we laid down on the bed together.

4) I love DATY so started with that, and it was ok, but te view not quite what I expected. She barely reacted (and I know from beccas / wife / gfs feedback that it wasnt me), most likely due to the drugs. She did enjoy it and moaned a little, but was so out of it. I asked for 69 and she said OK, let me grab a condom. I said I thought the BJ was BB based on her add and she said No, got to be safe. No upsell, just No. I rolled with it.

5) The 69 was solid, and props for her getting me up and to completion with a CBJ. I was surprised I could, as I'm not a Condom guy (new to this, 20 years of relationship sex with 3 exes).

6) Right after that she said "intermission" and I was cool with that since I needed a reprieve. It had been maybe 30 min since I entered the door. She said she wanted a Cig and I was like ok. I didn't think about it, but she lit up right there. I cleaned up the room some, hid my clothes in the mini-fridge so they wouldn't smell like smoke, and tried to figure out what to do next. I was somewhat tired, and honestly only wanted to continue because I was invested. And she was still overall attractive to me.

7) Basically then she starts talking about having to leave soon. How she had to get someplace to pay her bills tog et her phone back on, and how it would just be cutting short like 15 minutes. I was like WTF, its been less than an hr. She said she got there at 7:20 p and that's when the clock started for her. I had her look at her phone and asked her when she texted me a room number and she said 7:55. It was 9 pm. But she had to go. Since I was now upset and over it I said I was fine with cutting it short, but it was 1 hr and she should give me back half and we call it even. She said No, I got my times worth. I went over the timeframe againa nd she kept bringing upt he traffic, the time it took t book a room, etc, like that was all my problem. I said I understood she was desperate, but I expected us to stay another hr and now I was fine with us leaving, but she owed me at least $100 back. I would call it even. Remember, the money is in her purse because I'm an idiot. I Said I wasnt going to force the issue or try to take the money back, but I would be putting up a review of this encounter. She apologized and said the Money is alreayd sepnt and she can't give me back any of it. SHe had to pay rent, the phone, etc. I told her she should honor her commitment or give back $100 at least and she declined. I said she should make it up in the future at minimum and she said thank you and promised she would. (*yes I know there is at most a 5% chance of this, but again I wasnt going to physically take the money from her).

I told her I would be posting this entire review and she asked me not to screw her over, and I said I wasnt, just going to be Honest. I will update If / When I get a Make Up date where I actually get what was payed for and discussed (BBBJ, msog, cfs).

TLDR: 90 Minutes Late, Smoked in Room, CBJ after Marketing BBBJ, Cut 2 hr Session into 1 Hr, Paid 3 for 40 minutes with CBJ, DATY and 69. Can't recommend her to anyone until she gets her sh! T together.

Very disappointing 2nd experience (I'm batting 50/50 so far. Becca rocks).Just curious, is Becca still around?

Benz1
11-04-19, 16:45
Just curious, is Becca still around?Haven't heard from her lately. Becca contacted me about a month ago. Said she wanted some clients.

LowKeyg
11-07-19, 16:48
I was wrong on this one boys. I want to apologize for contradicting my feow mongers a couple months ago. The old adage "bros before hos" is doubly trouble among hobbyists, it seems. I learned the hard way. I have known this girl since she was out the red roof inn on 28th back in 2016. I miss that girl. We had fun and smoked a shit ton of green and when I walked out I asked, with my best stoned grin, "how do I look?" To which she replied, "like you just fucked. " And we both laughed and laughed. 2019 isn't the same girl. Idk what drove her to associate with the people she does now but I don't feel safe seeing her anymore. In the past, ill admit, I gave her money with no services. She always made sure to show her appreciation and after 1. 5 year I honestly wasnt just giving her money for play. I wanted to see her do better and stop being in this game. But now? She is trying to treat me like a piggybank. I send a stranger 85 bucks via paypal for "her room" with promise she would see me the next day. I was in a bad place that day and if I hadn't been maybe I wouldn't have been so desperate to "feel good" by helping someone. We talked for about 10 minutes after that and, I'm guessing as soon as she got the money / drugs in hand, she went poof. I try hitting her up next day (I had literally scheduled my day around this meet up) nothing but fucking crickets. I get a text mid afternoonish that, for some reason, her phone was dead cause she had let "her friend use her charger. " I know this girl; she aint ever without her charger. She lives and breathes that damn phone. Ok I respond and ask her if she is still down to meet. Crickets. I tell her ill even pay for another day just fucking answer me. Crickets. Sunday afternoon I'm doing personal business and get a text in the early evening. "OH MY GOD SOMETHING HAPPENED TO ME please COME SEE ME WE CAN TALK. " I ask her what happened. She gives me details that make me uncomfortable. Some gangbanger is involved. I do googling on the person; this is a guy I'd have to kill if he robbed me cause I know he wouldn't hesitate to murder me for what is in my pockets. I tell her I can't see her. She continues to text about how she is just trying to pay her room but she is scared. I tell her that the well has dried up. Over the years I had been fooling myself into thinking she actually wants to be a better person. You don't associate with dangerous criminals if that's the case. You don't fucking pick a goddamn violent criminal over a guy who has showed you nothing but love and respect since day 1. Especially a retard like me who is dumb enough to have given her as much as I've given her over the years.

I could go on and on but she is wrapped up in some shit and for your safety, I recommend AVOIDING kamilia (katie) until she ismt associating with gang bangers to sell weed and god knows what else. She was always looking for the easy way out and that's why her family isn't helping anymore. People get jaded when ya steal from them. Be safe out there gents and learn from my stupidity and faith in human decency.

GRDiver
11-07-19, 23:17
It's sad to see such a sweet girl get caught in the wrong crowd.

I have also seen Katie since way back when she was at her ex bfs house on Leonard to when she moved around all over GR. We always had fun and smoked and fucked alot and even CIP a few times. Then she started asking for money or to see me every day. I tried to see her as much as I could but eventually just started saying no. She comes from a shitty upbringing but that doesn't justify any of her recent behaviors. Hopefully she straightens up line she always talked about wanting to do but I don't think that will happen with her running with her current crowd. Stay away from her.


I was wrong on this one boys. I want to apologize for contradicting my feow mongers a couple months ago. The old adage "bros before hos" is doubly trouble among hobbyists, it seems. I learned the hard way. I have known this girl since she was out the red roof inn on 28th back in 2016. I miss that girl. We had fun and smoked a shit ton of green and when I walked out I asked, with my best stoned grin, "how do I look?" To which she replied, "like you just fucked. " And we both laughed and laughed. 2019 isn't the same girl. Idk what drove her to associate with the people she does now but I don't feel safe seeing her anymore. In the past, ill admit, I gave her money with no services. She always made sure to show her appreciation and after 1. 5 year I honestly wasnt just giving her money for play. I wanted to see her do better and stop being in this game. But now? She is trying to treat me like a piggybank. I send a stranger 85 bucks via paypal for "her room" with promise she would see me the next day. I was in a bad place that day and if I hadn't been maybe I wouldn't have been so desperate to "feel good" by helping someone. We talked for about 10 minutes after that and, I'm guessing as soon as she got the money / drugs in hand, she went poof. I try hitting her up next day (I had literally scheduled my day around this meet up) nothing but fucking crickets. I get a text mid afternoonish that, for some reason, her phone was dead cause she had let "her friend use her charger. " I know this girl; she aint ever without her charger. She lives and breathes that damn phone. Ok I respond and ask her if she is still down to meet. Crickets. I tell her ill even pay for another day just fucking answer me. Crickets. Sunday afternoon I'm doing personal business and get a text in the early evening. "OH MY GOD SOMETHING HAPPENED TO ME please COME SEE ME WE CAN TALK. " I ask her what happened. She gives me details that make me uncomfortable. Some gangbanger is involved. I do googling on the person; this is a guy I'd have to kill if he robbed me cause I know he wouldn't hesitate to murder me for what is in my pockets. I tell her I can't see her. She continues to text about how she is just trying to pay her room but she is scared. I tell her that the well has dried up. Over the years I had been fooling myself into thinking she actually wants to be a better person. You don't associate with dangerous criminals if that's the case. You don't fucking pick a goddamn violent criminal over a guy who has showed you nothing but love and respect since day 1. Especially a retard like me who is dumb enough to have given her as much as I've given her over the years.

Benz1
11-08-19, 14:21
Just curious, is Becca still around?This is not a rip off report. I'm just answering a question.

I reached out to her on FB and she just responded today with.

Ill be in grand Rapids for 3 weeks after Tuesday.

I have digits for anyone that wants to reconnect.

Reacher2215
11-08-19, 20:33
This is not a rip off report. I'm just answering a question.

I reached out to her on FB and she just responded today with.

Ill be in grand Rapids for 3 weeks after Tuesday.

I have digits for anyone that wants to reconnect.Should have just messaged you about her instead, but thank you for the digits. Very much appreciated, especially for all the info you give. I will be leaving a long awaited review with this one.

Wolverines
11-14-19, 22:29
This is disappointing to say the least. Its been a few years but I saw her a handful of times and always had a good time.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/specials/051940494918


I was wrong on this one boys. I want to apologize for contradicting my fellow mongers a couple months ago. The old adage "bros before hos" is doubly trouble among hobbyists, it seems. I learned the hard way. I have known this girl since she was out the red roof inn on 28th back in 2016. I miss that girl. We had fun and smoked a shit ton of green and when I walked out I asked, with my best stoned grin, "how do I look?" To which she replied, "like you just fucked. " And we both laughed and laughed. 2019 isn't the same girl. Idk what drove her to associate with the people she does now but I don't feel safe seeing her anymore. In the past, ill admit, I gave her money with no services. She always made sure to show her appreciation and after 1. 5 year I honestly wasnt just giving her money for play. I wanted to see her do better and stop being in this game. But now? She is trying to treat me like a piggybank. I send a stranger 85 bucks via paypal for "her room" with promise she would see me the next day. I was in a bad place that day and if I hadn't been maybe I wouldn't have been so desperate to "feel good" by helping someone. We talked for about 10 minutes after that and, I'm guessing as soon as she got the money / drugs in hand, she went poof. I try hitting her up next day (I had literally scheduled my day around this meet up) nothing but fucking crickets. I get a text mid afternoonish that, for some reason, her phone was dead cause she had let "her friend use her charger. " I know this girl; she aint ever without her charger. She lives and breathes that damn phone. Ok I respond and ask her if she is still down to meet. Crickets. I tell her ill even pay for another day just fucking answer me. Crickets. Sunday afternoon I'm doing personal business and get a text in the early evening. "OH MY GOD SOMETHING HAPPENED TO ME please COME SEE ME WE CAN TALK. " I ask her what happened. She gives me details that make me uncomfortable. Some gangbanger is involved. I do googling on the person; this is a guy I'd have to kill if he robbed me cause I know he wouldn't hesitate to murder me for what is in my pockets. I tell her I can't see her. She continues to text about how she is just trying to pay her room but she is scared. I tell her that the well has dried up. Over the years I had been fooling myself into thinking she actually wants to be a better person. You don't associate with dangerous criminals if that's the case. You don't fucking pick a goddamn violent criminal over a guy who has showed you nothing but love and respect since day 1. Especially a retard like me who is dumb enough to have given her as much as I've given her over the years.

I could go on and on but she is wrapped up in some shit and for your safety, I recommend AVOIDING kamilia (katie) until she ismt associating with gang bangers to sell weed and god knows what else. She was always looking for the easy way out and that's why her family isn't helping anymore. People get jaded when ya steal from them. Be safe out there gents and learn from my stupidity and faith in human decency.

MrLimpBiscuit
11-20-19, 09:20
This is disappointing to say the least. Its been a few years but I saw her a handful of times and always had a good time.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/specials/051940494918Thanks. Sux.

MrLimpBiscuit
11-20-19, 09:33
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/giddy-up-gentlemen-this-cowgir/566543439311

I'm sure her teeth will be rotting soon, crack head.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/616-558-8125-highly-reviewed/254815469407

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/616-558-8125-satisfaction/744191550267

Reviews and no dates, con artist.

SoulJamane
11-20-19, 15:52
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/giddy-up-gentlemen-this-cowgir/566543439311

I'm sure her teeth will be rotting soon, crack head.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/616-558-8125-highly-reviewed/254815469407

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/616-558-8125-satisfaction/744191550267

Reviews and no dates, con artist.I will be first in line when all them teeth are gone, first gumjob I had was from Autumn and it felt like the wettest pussy, but she turned into some scammer I read didn't scam me.

Benz1
11-20-19, 20:48
I will be first in line when all them teeth are gone, first gumjob I had was from Autumn and it felt like the wettest pussy, but she turned into some scammer I read didn't scam me.Autumn told me, you'll have another opportunity to see her in about 4 months. Remember to hold 20 back and donate it to the Autumn ripped off monger fund.

Prog3
11-21-19, 08:16
I went against my better judgement and when into her place even though the gut said no.

She looks nothing like there pics, the pics were probably taken a lot of drugs ago.

I asked her to prove the carpet matched the drapes and she then asked for the donation. I handed to her and immediately there was a series of unfortunate events with the chaos going on in the house.

She said we should do the date in the car, dumb ass me was paying attention to the shady surroundings and walked out the door in front of her. Needless to say it closed behind me. .

I told her through text I would review and I gave her a couple days to make it up but just crickets.

It's really my fault for being desperate, but no one else was replying that night.

Just stay away. Run away.

Benz1
11-21-19, 12:09
I went against my better judgement and when into her place even though the gut said no.

She looks nothing like there pics, the pics were probably taken a lot of drugs ago.

I asked her to prove the carpet matched the drapes and she then asked for the donation. I handed to her and immediately there was a series of unfortunate events with the chaos going on in the house.

She said we should do the date in the car, dumb ass me was paying attention to the shady surroundings and walked out the door in front of her. Needless to say it closed behind me. .

I told her through text I would review and I gave her a couple days to make it up but just crickets.

It's really my fault for being desperate, but no one else was replying that night.

Just stay away. Run away.Stay away from who? Link? Pics? Name?

Prog3
11-21-19, 12:29
Stay away from who? Link? Pics? Name?I totally forgot to add the link.

Sexy red. Not so sexy at all.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-red/395463443206

Benz1
11-21-19, 14:42
I totally forgot to add the link.

Sexy red. Not so sexy at all.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-red/395463443206Option 1 Pay when you're done.

Option 2. Split the donation before you get there. The max you give is half. Show her the other half put it back in your pocket. Tell her she gets it when we're done having fun.

Option 3. Pay early and risk being ripped off.

NoseJelly
11-21-19, 18:53
Option 1) Pay at end of service.

Option 2) See Option 1.

Wolverines
11-21-19, 22:57
Sorry to hear about that. Thanks for getting the word out so that no one else gets burned.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-red/395463443206

AVOID!


I went against my better judgement and when into her place even though the gut said no.

She looks nothing like there pics, the pics were probably taken a lot of drugs ago. I asked her to prove the carpet matched the drapes and she then asked for the donation. I handed to her and immediately there was a series of unfortunate events with the chaos going on in the house. She said we should do the date in the car, dumb ass me was paying attention to the shady surroundings and walked out the door in front of her. Needless to say it closed behind me. .

I told her through text I would review and I gave her a couple days to make it up but just crickets. It's really my fault for being desperate, but no one else was replying that night.

Just stay away. Run away.

Naughty12
11-23-19, 09:05
Fellas, this should be stuck to your forehead. The real test? After getting all worked up from seeing pics, reading reviews of dudes in gaga euphoria, and even making so-so conversation with a provider. Go clean the pipes, knock one out!

It will take you minutes to save hundreds on a bad deal. If you feel the same after coming back, go for it. Trust me, you will think much more clear about your situation and be in full control!


I went against my better judgement ............... even though the gut said no.

BoyBear
11-24-19, 03:25
Fellas, this should be stuck to your forehead. The real test? After getting all worked up from seeing pics, reading reviews of dudes in gaga euphoria, and even making so-so conversation with a provider. Go clean the pipes, knock one out!

It will take you minutes to save hundreds on a bad deal. If you feel the same after coming back, go for it. Trust me, you will think much more clear about your situation and be in full control!Naughty has a point. Not a good option for us well aged mongers. Nowadays, can't be sure there is more than one in the chamber! Boybear.

Stb421
12-24-19, 18:10
Watch out these two will rip you off.

Contacted the blonde earlier, told me where she was staying.

Later ava love posted and I decided to try her gave me a rate for FS, when I got to the room she gave me the blonde was coming in from a smoke and decided to stay in the bathroom.

The tall mixed girl who said she was ava and was expecting me, asked if I wanted a duo I said no, so blonde goes in bathroom, she started with a covered BJ then when I said I was ready she says she doesn't do FS. Was going to cut my losses and leave, but figured I may as well get something, so made her work for a HJ, when I was leaving asked the blonde if she was amanda she said no her name was summer, but since I contacted her earlier I knew it was her, said her name was summer. Showed them the text where she gave me the room number, they tried to say it wasn't them they don't post their own ads, but how did I get the room number then?? Anyway my fault for giving donation up front.

The last link shows what ava looks like and their duo ad which they tried to deny was them.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/amanda-100hh-christmas-deal/296955549399

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/ava-love-massage-envy/734719353901

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/ava-love-massage-envy/734719353901

Rome123
12-24-19, 18:39
Watch out these two will rip you off.

Contacted the blonde earlier, told me where she was staying.

Later ava love posted and I decided to try her gave me a rate for FS, when I got to the room she gave me the blonde was coming in from a smoke and decided to stay in the bathroom.

The tall mixed girl who said she was ava and was expecting me, asked if I wanted a duo I said no, so blonde goes in bathroom, she started with a covered BJ then when I said I was ready she says she doesn't do FS. Was going to cut my losses and leave, but figured I may as well get something, so made her work for a HJ, when I was leaving asked the blonde if she was amanda she said no her name was summer, but since I contacted her earlier I knew it was her, said her name was summer. Showed them the text where she gave me the room number, they tried to say it wasn't them they don't post their own ads, but how did I get the room number then?? Anyway my fault for giving donation up front.

The last link shows what ava looks like and their duo ad which they tried to deny was them.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/amanda-100hh-christmas-deal/296955549399

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/ava-love-massage-envy/734719353901

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/ava-love-massage-envy/734719353901These girls are all tied in with the GFE experience girl. Text them all and ask where and it will be the same hotel. Ava Love was just reviewed and everything was an upsell. Not sure how you guys keep falling for these scams.

WaginTail
12-24-19, 19:33
Not sure how you guys keep falling for these scams.We are horny and they look good, local area code on the call number and they aren't asking for "deposits" to get a date.

Some of us don't have the skills to research to the level that you do, that's why we are on this site.

PrivateParts
12-25-19, 11:51
Some of us don't have the skills to research to the level that you do, that's why we are on this site.That's why I started the New Member Guide thread. Read through those posts. Doing a simple google search of phone number in format "xxx yyy zzzz escort" usually gets hits on common sites that will tell you a lot. Try to follow the research guide on the ads STB421 listed as an example:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31718-New-Member-Guide&p=4528149&viewfull=1#post4528149.

First you'll see Ava's number associated with different girls. That's a red flag. But if you do reverse image searches on their pics you'll see "Amanda" is off the Internet and "Ava" ad is used all over the country. The girls you found might look similar, but highly doubt they are the same. Try it yourself and see if you can find similar results:

https://www.spotern.com/en/people/6815/iskra-lawrence

https://escortindex.com/ad/orangecounty/714-805-3611/1/1711626

This alone doesn't imply you'll get ripped off but it should be a big clue you're not dealing with the real thing. If you search the escort reports on this site you likely won't not find any positive reviews to confirm they are legit. They've been posting for a while now, and they are hot. Certainly if they were real someone would review them, right? So armed with that knowledge you can decide to take one for the team (being prepared) or not and move onto someone proven.


Watch out these two will rip you off...

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/amanda-100hh-christmas-deal/296955549399

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/ava-love-massage-envy/734719353901

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/ava-love-massage-envy/734719353901

Stb421
12-27-19, 17:24
That's why I started the New Member Guide thread. Read through those posts. Doing a simple google search of phone number in format "xxx yyy zzzz escort" usually gets hits on common sites that will tell you a lot. Try to follow the research guide on the ads STB421 listed as an example:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31718-New-Member-Guide&p=4528149&viewfull=1#post4528149.

First you'll see Ava's number associated with different girls. That's a red flag. But if you do reverse image searches on their pics you'll see "Amanda" is off the Internet and "Ava" ad is used all over the country. The girls you found might look similar, but highly doubt they are the same. Try it yourself and see if you can find similar results:

https://www.spotern.com/en/people/6815/iskra-lawrence

https://escortindex.com/ad/orangecounty/714-805-3611/1/1711626

This alone doesn't imply you'll get ripped off but it should be a big clue you're not dealing with the real thing. If you search the escort reports on this site you likely won't not find any positive reviews to confirm they are legit. They've been posting for a while now, and they are hot. Certainly if they were real someone would review them, right? So armed with that knowledge you can decide to take one for the team (being prepared) or not and move onto someone proven.You're absolutely right. I was short on time and she was available. I'm just sticking with ones I know from now on.

Toes63
01-11-20, 10:45
Starr.

She is a big RIP off don't waste your time or money she will request a deposit and all this long texting send you pictures and give you a street address. Avoid at all possible. She will request money through Zelle. http://lansing.skipthegames.com/fema...i/326889198432.

ExoceTop
01-31-20, 20:05
Avoid at all costs she isn't even the pic and for 10 minutes wanted 150 roses. Take your adventures elsewhere.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/gfe-specials-if-call-now/417012824823

Wolverines
02-15-20, 23:19
Appreciate the heads up. AVOID


Starr.

She is a big RIP off don't waste your time or money she will request a deposit and all this long texting send you pictures and give you a street address. Avoid at all possible. She will request money through Zelle. http://lansing.skipthegames.com/fema...i/326889198432.

Wolverines
02-15-20, 23:27
Thanks. AVOID

https://escortfish.ch/tel/view/616-377-4582


Avoid at all costs she isn't even the pic and for 10 minutes wanted 150 roses. Take your adventures elsewhere.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/gfe-specials-if-call-now/417012824823

Wolverines
02-15-20, 23:45
Thanks for reporting back. AVOID

https://escortindex.com/ad/orangecounty/714-805-3611/1/1711626


Watch out these two will rip you off.

Contacted the blonde earlier, told me where she was staying.

Later ava love posted and I decided to try her gave me a rate for FS, when I got to the room she gave me the blonde was coming in from a smoke and decided to stay in the bathroom.

The tall mixed girl who said she was ava and was expecting me, asked if I wanted a duo I said no, so blonde goes in bathroom, she started with a covered BJ then when I said I was ready she says she doesn't do FS. Was going to cut my losses and leave, but figured I may as well get something, so made her work for a HJ, when I was leaving asked the blonde if she was amanda she said no her name was summer, but since I contacted her earlier I knew it was her, said her name was summer. Showed them the text where she gave me the room number, they tried to say it wasn't them they don't post their own ads, but how did I get the room number then?? Anyway my fault for giving donation up front.

The last link shows what ava looks like and their duo ad which they tried to deny was them.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/amanda-100hh-christmas-deal/296955549399

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/ava-love-massage-envy/734719353901

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/ava-love-massage-envy/734719353901

Wolverines
04-06-20, 00:15
Thanks for reporting this back to the forum. Can you provide more details? Like what she looks like (I assume pics are fake), her approximate age, location of her incall, exactly how she robbed you, etc.

AVOID


http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/other/amber-is-ready-to-play/648521613069

Robbed me and took my money. Oh well, no one got hurt.

LikEmBig
04-09-20, 12:09
Texted to check on rates and availability. Texted back right away with a rate that is way too high for this economy. Sent a counteroffer which she immediately accepted. There was no discussion of services, restrictions, etc. I was just looking for a BBBJ anyway, so since she's the Head Dr, figured this would be right up her alley. She texted and asked me to pick her up a pop, which I did. When I got there she asked me to get undressed, which I did. She asked for the money. I felt a little uncomfortable, but since this was her home, I thought it would be OK. She then tells me she everything is covered, which I'm OK with, except for the BJ. She then accuses me of giving her fake money. Oh. And she won't take off any clothes. I said give me 1/2 back and we'll call it good. She says no, and threatens to call for her "security". Avoid! She'll just take your money.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/supreme-head-dr-is-in-walk-ins/725863478990

Monger01
04-09-20, 17:21
Do not ever prepay. Ever. Doesn't matter if its her home. Once you pay all your power in the situation transfers to her. If the girl insists politely say sorry I just never prepay, show her the cash to prove you have it and put it back in your pocket. If she still insists politely leave. 99 times out of 100 she will stop you and give service. She wants your money. You're an ATM to her. Nothing more.


Texted to check on rates and availability. Texted back right away with a rate that is way too high for this economy. Sent a counteroffer which she immediately accepted. There was no discussion of services, restrictions, etc. I was just looking for a BBBJ anyway, so since she's the Head Dr, figured this would be right up her alley. She texted and asked me to pick her up a pop, which I did. When I got there she asked me to get undressed, which I did. She asked for the money. I felt a little uncomfortable, but since this was her home, I thought it would be OK. She then tells me she everything is covered, which I'm OK with, except for the BJ. She then accuses me of giving her fake money. Oh. And she won't take off any clothes. I said give me 1/2 back and we'll call it good. She says no, and threatens to call for her "security". Avoid! She'll just take your money.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/supreme-head-dr-is-in-walk-ins/725863478990

Rome123
04-09-20, 19:44
Texted to check on rates and availability. Texted back right away with a rate that is way too high for this economy. Sent a counteroffer which she immediately accepted. There was no discussion of services, restrictions, etc. I was just looking for a BBBJ anyway, so since she's the Head Dr, figured this would be right up her alley. She texted and asked me to pick her up a pop, which I did. When I got there she asked me to get undressed, which I did. She asked for the money. I felt a little uncomfortable, but since this was her home, I thought it would be OK. She then tells me she everything is covered, which I'm OK with, except for the BJ. She then accuses me of giving her fake money. Oh. And she won't take off any clothes. I said give me 1/2 back and we'll call it good. She says no, and threatens to call for her "security". Avoid! She'll just take your money.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/supreme-head-dr-is-in-walk-ins/725863478990Her name is Aubrey. Nothing but bad reviews. What happened to you has happened before. You should have asked about her and someone on here could have warned you about her. You shouldn't pay up front but I'm sure everyone on here has at one point in time. Also, if it's a girl you've never seen before I wouldn't get undressed unless she is getting undressed at the same time. Watch yourself out there. STG is full of scams and girls looking to rip you off.

WayneJWorld
04-09-20, 23:09
Texted to check on rates and availability. Texted back right away with a rate that is way too high for this economy. Sent a counteroffer which she immediately accepted. There was no discussion of services, restrictions, etc. I was just looking for a BBBJ anyway, so since she's the Head Dr, figured this would be right up her alley. She texted and asked me to pick her up a pop, which I did. When I got there she asked me to get undressed, which I did. She asked for the money. I felt a little uncomfortable, but since this was her home, I thought it would be OK. She then tells me she everything is covered, which I'm OK with, except for the BJ. She then accuses me of giving her fake money. Oh. And she won't take off any clothes. I said give me 1/2 back and we'll call it good. She says no, and threatens to call for her "security". Avoid! She'll just take your money.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/supreme-head-dr-is-in-walk-ins/725863478990Seemed like a long time ago she did the same thing to me. Now I pay on way out.

Live and learn. She used to go by Aubrey and has a bunch of negative reviews.

Wolverines
04-11-20, 01:49
Security?! And here I thought times were tough for the providers, but this one has security? Probably her pimp/boyfriend. Yeap, she has some bad reviews on here. Actually, I think all are bad. But this is a good reminder for the forum. Thanks for reporting back.

AVOID!


Texted to check on rates and availability. Texted back right away with a rate that is way too high for this economy. Sent a counteroffer which she immediately accepted. There was no discussion of services, restrictions, etc. I was just looking for a BBBJ anyway, so since she's the Head Dr, figured this would be right up her alley. She texted and asked me to pick her up a pop, which I did. When I got there she asked me to get undressed, which I did. She asked for the money. I felt a little uncomfortable, but since this was her home, I thought it would be OK. She then tells me she everything is covered, which I'm OK with, except for the BJ. She then accuses me of giving her fake money. Oh. And she won't take off any clothes. I said give me 1/2 back and we'll call it good. She says no, and threatens to call for her "security". Avoid! She'll just take your money.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/supreme-head-dr-is-in-walk-ins/725863478990

Reacher2215
04-14-20, 07:06
Texted to check on rates and availability. Texted back right away with a rate that is way too high for this economy. Sent a counteroffer which she immediately accepted. There was no discussion of services, restrictions, etc. I was just looking for a BBBJ anyway, so since she's the Head Dr, figured this would be right up her alley. She texted and asked me to pick her up a pop, which I did. When I got there she asked me to get undressed, which I did. She asked for the money. I felt a little uncomfortable, but since this was her home, I thought it would be OK. She then tells me she everything is covered, which I'm OK with, except for the BJ. She then accuses me of giving her fake money. Oh. And she won't take off any clothes. I said give me 1/2 back and we'll call it good. She says no, and threatens to call for her "security". Avoid! She'll just take your money.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/supreme-head-dr-is-in-walk-ins/725863478990Yikes. I thought about taking a chance a little bit ago, I'm glad I decided against it. At least her wannabe BS "security" didn't make things worse. There's probably only 2 or 3 repeated long-time providers I can think of offhand that I would ever pay upfront for (only because it would do them more harm than good to try and rip me off at this point). But I hope she goes hungry out there along with the rest of the thieves and the fakes. Stay safe out there, fellas.

DonJulio1981
06-06-20, 05:29
First and foremost, she's got a dumb 50 yr old black BF who lurks around and makes things VERY uncomfortable. There's also a great reason all her pics are from the waist down. BUTT freaking ugly. She makes no qualms about being a crack head, but should at least consider washing herself between clients. I stuck around because it was late and I felt sorry for her, but doubled up on the Trojans just to be safe. You'd think after so many tries she'd be better in the old BJ department, but nope. Not even close. I had to close my eyes and imagine someone attractive just to finish. I caught her BF trying to break into my car on my way out the door, but luckily he was too drunk to realize I had forgotten to even lock it. Do yourself and your pecker a favor and skip this one.

Monger01
06-06-20, 16:15
A link would be helpful.


First and foremost, she's got a dumb 50 yr old black BF who lurks around and makes things VERY uncomfortable. There's also a great reason all her pics are from the waist down. BUTT freaking ugly. She makes no qualms about being a crack head, but should at least consider washing herself between clients. I stuck around because it was late and I felt sorry for her, but doubled up on the Trojans just to be safe. You'd think after so many tries she'd be better in the old BJ department, but nope. Not even close. I had to close my eyes and imagine someone attractive just to finish. I caught her BF trying to break into my car on my way out the door, but luckily he was too drunk to realize I had forgotten to even lock it. Do yourself and your pecker a favor and skip this one.

HollandGuy73
06-06-20, 16:55
A link would be helpful.I'm curious about the ripoff. Is the ripoff that she is ugly? If so, there are many providers ripping people off.

Or, is the ripoff her 50 year old drunk black boyfriend who unsuccessfully as you stated attempt to break into your car?

HollandGuy73
06-07-20, 11:11
Sorry Monger, didn't mean to use your reply to initial rip off report.

Wolverines
06-07-20, 23:08
Appreciate you reporting this back to the forum. She has one review on this forum which was back in Dec. 2018. And it was a good review. So much for that.

AVOID


Amber is a BBW which sometimes I like so thought I would give her a go. Text setup was easy enough. Arrived at hotel she answered and look good. Gave the. 1 and that's when it all went wrong. Got undressed and had just started when she starts this story about her weed dealer was about to show up and wanted me to leave and come back for full time. At that point I knew I was played but aay it though. Got dressed then she starts this long story about how she wants out of the business and wants to find a guy to take her home. Went on and on and no more mention of the weed dealer. I left she said she would call me in 10 minutes. Of this never happened. Bottom line is she is bat shit crazy.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-bbw-fat-ass-size-g-tits/341468098403

Wolverines
06-08-20, 00:55
Thanks for reporting back.

AVOID


https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/lil-thick-red-rcn/381829101878

Arranged a date a couple nights ago. Made the mistake of offering a first time deposit. Was. Ghosted and of course no reply later. Lesson learned. Message me for d and deets.

Randy2018
06-19-20, 00:03
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/come-and-get-it-daddy/434286601727

Made a late night appointment. No problem. 10 minutes out from her hotel she canceled for dubious reasons. Attempts to reconnect were ignored.

Spanky79
06-19-20, 00:38
Thanks for reporting back.

AVOIDI seen her last year when she first came into the scene. She is a crackhead.

HollandGuy73
06-19-20, 16:19
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/come-and-get-it-daddy/434286601727

Made a late night appointment. No problem. 10 minutes out from her hotel she canceled for dubious reasons. Attempts to reconnect were ignored.This posting probably belongs in Escorts section and not the Rip Off section.

DonJulio1981
06-21-20, 01:57
First and foremost, she's got a dumb 50 yr old black BF who lurks around and makes things VERY uncomfortable. There's also a great reason all her pics are from the waist down. BUTT freaking ugly. She makes no qualms about being a crack head, but should at least consider washing herself between clients. I stuck around because it was late and I felt sorry for her, but doubled up on the Trojans just to be safe. You'd think after so many tries she'd be better in the old BJ department, but nope. Not even close. I had to close my eyes and imagine someone attractive just to finish. I caught her BF trying to break into my car on my way out the door, but luckily he was too drunk to realize I had forgotten to even lock it. Do yourself and your pecker a favor and skip this one.The girl who I was referring to IS NOT named Katie. She goes by Katrina, and I haven't seen her show up on STG since the day after I met with her. I think she left town.

Randy2018
06-21-20, 03:16
This posting probably belongs in Escorts section and not the Rip Off section.Okay, define ripoff. If I eliminate your time with any other provider but don't actually meet you myself, do you feel satisfied or cheated?

Also researched name and number and has extensive rap sheet. But go ahead ignore me.

HollandGuy73
06-21-20, 08:44
Okay, define ripoff. If I eliminate your time with any other provider but don't actually meet you myself, do you feel satisfied or cheated?

Also researched name and number and has extensive rap sheet. But go ahead ignore me.There you go. You researched the name and found she has an 'extensive rap sheet' but you still attempted to make something happen. You did this apparently against the suggestion of other mongers who have done the hard work for you, but you disregard their advice. ?

Or- did you set up, then decide after you were ghosted that you'd better look into her? You did it in reverse.

Either way it is my opinion that you did not use this great forum the way that it's supposed to be used.

You posted in the wrong section.

You didn't heed all warning signs which you said are readily available.

Your best advice to me is to ignore you. Until you understand how to follow those simple steps.

P.S. This may be heading to the Pugilist page.

SlickWilly0098
06-21-20, 23:26
This girl is a complete scammer and I went against my better judgement and it cost me a hundy. Stay away seriously.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/latina-love-xoxo/159063203455

BigFriknNutz
06-22-20, 12:57
This girl is a complete scammer and I went against my better judgement and it cost me a hundy. Stay away seriously.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/latina-love-xoxo/159063203455First off she looks flat out scary. In a bad way and I believe there have been multiple reports now of rip offs. You guys in GR love giving your money away and its almost always by a girl that has no business getting paid for sex. Unbelievable.

PrivateParts
06-22-20, 21:17
Okay, define ripoff.Webster's defines rip-off as an act or instance of stealing.

In context of this thread stealing money, valuables, or your personal information (identity) for blackmail or other nefarious purposes is a rip-off. Physical assault or threatening is a rip-off (like being run off by a pimp). The drastic refusal to provide agreed upon services after money is exchanged can be a rip-off (though tread lightly on that one as it can often be he said / she said situation).

Waisting your time is not considered a rip-off, especially if she texts you to cancel. Other things that aren't rip-offs but warrant negative reviews in the escort reports: service that is not up to your satisfaction, ghosting or not showing up for appointment, not looking like the pictures in the ad, rushing you, generally being so damn nasty that you leave early.

It's just cleaner if we keep this thread to the worst of the worst. You're doing good if that's your worst experience, so keep the reviews coming in the escort reports thread because it's all helpful.

MichigaGAboy
06-27-20, 12:26
Back in February I found this provider, who went by Layla on Eros.com. She is from Toledo, Ohio but work in Detroit also. The ad on Eros was supposed to be verified. This provider wanted a deposit before meet. Against better judgment I decided to take a chance. I figured it was a professional website and she would be too. My fault. She ghosted me. Lesson learned. I know you gentlemen know better. I've viewed a lot of your post. But please be careful with this one.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co L /062025475468.

MichigaGAboy
06-29-20, 18:26
Here is her old ad and phone number.


Back in February I found this provider, who went by Layla on Eros.com. She is from Toledo, Ohio but work in Detroit also. The ad on Eros was supposed to be verified. This provider wanted a deposit before meet. Against better judgment I decided to take a chance. I figured it was a professional website and she would be too. My fault. She ghosted me. Lesson learned. I know you gentlemen know better. I've viewed a lot of your post. But please be careful with this one.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co L /062025475468.

BlackBear29
08-10-20, 09:14
Wanted a dream this morning before work. Lurked on STG to fulfill that dream. Found one, but not what expected. Pictures are out of date, at least 30-40 lbs. After 10 min of phone tag she finally answered. Told me to walk to the back, where we met. She proceeded to talking on the phone after I came into the house. Laid my money on the table (my fault) ask if I had a condom, told her I didn't. She told me to wait one sec, took the money and then I random guy walked in telling me "she left". I took the hit but I don't want a fellow monger to go thru what I did. Please avoid!

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/domination-and-fetish/caucasian_e/peaches/160180937314

SlapShot69
08-10-20, 14:00
Thanks for letting us know!


Wanted a dream this morning before work. Lurked on STG to fulfill that dream. Found one, but not what expected. Pictures are out of date, at least 30-40 lbs. After 10 min of phone tag she finally answered. Told me to walk to the back, where we met. She proceeded to talking on the phone after I came into the house. Laid my money on the table (my fault) ask if I had a condom, told her I didn't. She told me to wait one sec, took the money and then I random guy walked in telling me "she left". I took the hit but I don't want a fellow monger to go thru what I did. Please avoid!

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/domination-and-fetish/caucasian_e/peaches/160180937314

Reacher2215
08-10-20, 15:30
This girl is a complete scammer and I went against my better judgement and it cost me a hundy. Stay away seriously.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/latina-love-xoxo/159063203455I would have given her $5 to go away. Definitely a scary looking thing.

Reacher2215
08-10-20, 15:35
Wanted a dream this morning before work. Lurked on STG to fulfill that dream. Found one, but not what expected. Pictures are out of date, at least 30-40 lbs. After 10 min of phone tag she finally answered. Told me to walk to the back, where we met. She proceeded to talking on the phone after I came into the house. Laid my money on the table (my fault) ask if I had a condom, told her I didn't. She told me to wait one sec, took the money and then I random guy walked in telling me "she left". I took the hit but I don't want a fellow monger to go thru what I did. Please avoid!

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/domination-and-fetish/caucasian_e/peaches/160180937314It takes something to admit that you were wrong when you put the money on the table. I won't do that for providers I've seen for months, much less a new one. But still getting really sick of the whole "lowly pimp and even lower provider" ripoff act.

SafariGuide
08-10-20, 15:54
Wanted a dream this morning before work. Lurked on STG to fulfill that dream. Found one, but not what expected. Pictures are out of date, at least 30-40 lbs. After 10 min of phone tag she finally answered. Told me to walk to the back, where we met. She proceeded to talking on the phone after I came into the house. Laid my money on the table (my fault) ask if I had a condom, told her I didn't. She told me to wait one sec, took the money and then I random guy walked in telling me "she left". I took the hit but I don't want a fellow monger to go thru what I did. Please avoid!

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/domination-and-fetish/caucasian_e/peaches/160180937314Same this happened to me earlier this year with a provider that I had already seen three times. I guess she decided to go out of business by screwing (without kissing) as many of her former clients as she could.

Wha't this world cuming to?

Wolverines
08-13-20, 00:46
Thanks for reporting back.

AVOID!


Wanted a dream this morning before work. Lurked on STG to fulfill that dream. Found one, but not what expected. Pictures are out of date, at least 30-40 lbs. After 10 min of phone tag she finally answered. Told me to walk to the back, where we met. She proceeded to talking on the phone after I came into the house. Laid my money on the table (my fault) ask if I had a condom, told her I didn't. She told me to wait one sec, took the money and then I random guy walked in telling me "she left". I took the hit but I don't want a fellow monger to go thru what I did. Please avoid!

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/domination-and-fetish/caucasian_e/peaches/160180937314

MrLimpBiscuit
08-13-20, 19:05
Thanks for reporting back.

AVOID!,thankyou also.

Wolverines
08-20-20, 02:59
Thanks for reporting this back to the forum. So are the pictures in the Ad really her?

I saw your follow up post about deleting her texts from your phone. When I delete texts from my phone they still accessible by selecting "Archived" from the menu within the texting app. So, if your texting app has this you would still have access to those texts.

AVOID!

https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/fun-with-your-puerto-rican-playmate/32142318


http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/your-puerto-rican-playmate/271642309099

Met up at Cascade hotel with this girl for SS. She started rushing me from the start, saying her sister was going to be there in 5 minutes. Then she said my time was up and I asked for my $ back. That's when a dude jumped out from behind curtain and punched me in the face twice. I'm still bleeding, hoping my face isn't swollen tomorrow morning. I talked him into letting me leave with my clothes.

JingleBob
09-03-20, 19:48
This one is a complete waste of time.

http://holland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/sweet-latina-angel/168890574724

Was going to TOFTT with her because she looked interesting.

Communications were good at the start, but then started with a bunch of questions and concerns that I might stand her up.

Finally said she was on her way.

Texted her an hour later and she said she was still driving.

Long story short, she is a game player and wasted several hours of my time only to stand ME up.

Perhaps we mongers should do the same thing to her.

Waste HER time as much as she wasted mine.

She deserves no better.

BlackBear29
09-21-20, 18:53
Wanted a dream with what I thought was a valid provider. Started with text, response was pretty quick. Informed her I would like to setup a time to visit. Gave me $$ points with location. Before I took off for the destination, I told her I was on my way with a "ok" response. Get to the destination and she asked me to cash her the donation. Red flags went off immediately I told her I don't do online transactions. She then made up some ba excuse about how she has had issues in the past with johns treating her badly. Told her its either cash or bust. No response. She is a looker but not worth the hassle or time. Please avoid.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/here-for-a-good-time-not-a-lon/017017214973

Spartan191
09-21-20, 20:44
Wanted a dream with what I thought was a valid provider. Started with text, response was pretty quick. Informed her I would like to setup a time to visit. Gave me $$ points with location. Before I took off for the destination, I told her I was on my way with a "ok" response. Get to the destination and she asked me to cash her the donation. Red flags went off immediately I told her I don't do online transactions. She then made up some ba excuse about how she has had issues in the past with johns treating her badly. Told her its either cash or bust. No response. She is a looker but not worth the hassle or time. Please avoid.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/here-for-a-good-time-not-a-lon/017017214973Texas area code is the first give away.

No location given and I bet she has no reviews She can look up any GR or local hotel and give that as a destination.

Total flake.

Use local reviewed providers All of the information is available on this board Use it.

Wolverines
09-24-20, 01:49
Thanks for the heads up.

AVOID


Wanted a dream with what I thought was a valid provider. Started with text, response was pretty quick. Informed her I would like to setup a time to visit. Gave me $$ points with location. Before I took off for the destination, I told her I was on my way with a "ok" response. Get to the destination and she asked me to cash her the donation. Red flags went off immediately I told her I don't do online transactions. She then made up some ba excuse about how she has had issues in the past with johns treating her badly. Told her its either cash or bust. No response. She is a looker but not worth the hassle or time. Please avoid.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/here-for-a-good-time-not-a-lon/017017214973

Wolverines
09-24-20, 14:37
Gun claims with this one, along with reports of boyfriend/handler always around.

AVOID


Yes, she claimed that he had a gun, I didn't see it, but I don't doubt it. I actually still have the text from her saying he had a gun. I also probably didn't see the gun because I was focused on my jacket that he picked up. I actually pushed him back and told him to let go of my jacket. We shouted for a minute and he let go, then I left. I wasn't really phased by this sort of thing, I have been in much worse, but you guys act like guns are rare, half of these people carry, hope you realize this. 99% of the time, it is all for show.


Hold on a second. Were you definitely robbed at gun point? I ask because I believe I found your review(s) for her which were posted on may 14th, 2020 (attached to this post). You don't mention the gun in either review.

No matter what this chick sounds like an AVOID, but the gun thing is something your fellow mongers really need to know about asap.


I met her twice, hidden male both times. First time she tried to upcharge, second time robbed at gun point.


I tried to make this meeting happen. I called and got directed to a gas station. I saw her get out of a car Car was occupied by a male. Things felt wrong in my gut. I drove away.

Nothing that she did but I just didn't feel like going through with the meeting.

Stay safe!

HornyFlyer
09-28-20, 12:45
Gun claims with this one, along with reports of boyfriend/handler always around.

AVOIDWow. I saw Donna twice at her place on 33rd. It was a dump and an old man was in the other room who she said was her uncle, who has COPD. He was harmless. She was full service and I did not have any issues with her except she doesn't shave her legs which are more harry than my own. I'm surprised this is happening. I can't handle her leg hair so wasn't planning on seeing her again. But far from the experience I had with her.

PostB
10-28-20, 14:07
All was ok until hotel staff came to tell her she had to leave. I was stupid paid her up front she left room passes money to whoever.

Stay away she has marks all over her, scabs on top if it.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sweet-sexy-candy/924991038968

She will steal from you if you see her.

Wolverines
11-02-20, 23:31
Second ripoff report for her. Avoid her like the plague.

AVOID


https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/dream-come-true/382572306933

Had her over for outcall to my place, we hung out for awhile and had a few drinks, I gave her half the cash and the other half I put on paypal, she was watching her email on her phone, as soon as the paypal came through she said she had to grab cigarettes out of her car, she got in her car and took off. I have already cancelled the paypal transaction but she got away with 80 cash.


I am a long-time Monger in the area, and I have often read these forms on USA. But this will be my first time posting one. Are usually prefer not to add to these forms, but a recent encounter with this provider ended with things that I feel would be irresponsible For not speaking out. Unfortunately I can't recall the name that she gave me. But everything about our encounter went very well until the end. She finished using the bathroom at the end of the hall, and practically sprinted to the downstairs level of the house. I quickly followed down the stairs to find her halfway out the door with several expensive items in her arms in a matter of seconds. Luckily before she got the door unlocked I was able to relieve her of these items, She did not give them up willingly. But she eventually gave up and decided to tell me a sob story about how if she doesn't pay what she owes to to someone she was dead. Before I open the door and told her to leave I had her empty her purse to make sure she didn't manage to snag anything else. Surprise surprise it's full of use syringes. I tell her to put her things back in her purse and to be on her way. As she exits the front door She runs halfway down the block jumped into a minivan slider door that was already open, and they all peel out like a bat out of hell. It's very obvious that she did not take these items out of opportunity. This was quite clearly planned. Now like I said I've been doing this for a while, and yes I've been Ripped off before. But this girl is clearly desperate and very dangerous and willing to plan a robbery. Please stay away from this one at all costs.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/dream-come-true/741903838674

MichigaGAboy
11-05-20, 05:41
I believe this ad is fake. She has posted ad in the south over the summer. Same thing. I found the pictures on instagram awhile back. Some of these scammers are cat fishing, they're using instagram models snd porn stars pics.


Thanks for the heads up.

AVOID

BlackBear29
11-05-20, 14:19
The one is posting again with a different number and same pics. She will egg you on until you arrive, she will tell you that she only accepts thru several pay services and then ghost you. Don't fall for it. Happy hunting.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/pawg-of-your-dreams-thick-wet/812570470007

SmartGeek
11-25-20, 20:24
Anyone know this lady is ripoff.

I already cashapp her 50 bucks and keeps wanting more.

Thanks.

BoatGuy1
11-25-20, 21:21
Ad is posted in multiple states You are out of luck.

Never pay ahead unless you have verified reason why


Anyone know this lady is ripoff.

I already cashapp her 50 bucks and keeps wanting more.

Thanks..

HornyFlyer
12-01-20, 23:02
Anyone know this lady is ripoff.

I already cashapp her 50 bucks and keeps wanting more.

Thanks.Did you learn your lesson?

SmartGeek
12-02-20, 16:23
Anyone know this lady is legit.

Rome123
12-02-20, 19:25
Anyone know this lady is legit.She had a rip off report the last time she was posting in GR. The guy claimed he was assaulted by her boyfriend / handler. I'm not sure what name she was using then but you should be able to go back a little on the rip off reports and find it. Different pics but for sure the same girl. She stopped posting after his report.

SmartGeek
12-02-20, 20:08
Did you learn your lesson?Yes I did.

SmartGeek
12-02-20, 20:44
She had a rip off report the last time she was posting in GR. The guy claimed he was assaulted by her boyfriend / handler. I'm not sure what name she was using then but you should be able to go back a little on the rip off reports and find it. Different pics but for sure the same girl. She stopped posting after his report.OK Thanks very much.

Thought saw that somewhere.

Wolverines
12-02-20, 21:23
Your link is dead but I confirmed with you via PM that this is the provider you were referencing.


The Katie is the fire red head that I seen.

When we get to her room she starts by making some frozen orange juice, seemed strange but ok I guess. She seemed like a talkie but nice gal. So while she's doing that, my mistake, I set donation down. She gets done wit, looking back I think she was stalling, she walks by grabs money and then talks some more then leaves room. She's gone like 10 minutes I was getting ready to get out of there and she comes back. We get comfortable then 2 minutes later knock on door from manager she has 15 minutes to get out. So I ask her for money she says she doesn't have it, but I promise I will let you know when I get a room and you can come see me then. So now you have it. I tried to contact her several times this week all crickets.


All was ok until hotel staff came to tell her she had to leave. I was stupid paid her up front she left room passes money to whoever.

Stay away she has marks all over her, scabs on top if it.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sweet-sexy-candy/924991038968

She will steal from you if you see her.

Wolverines
12-02-20, 21:53
Thank you for exposing this one. AVOID

https://tryst.link/escort/lexireign
https://sumosear.ch/phone/616-308-3368


This girl will say she does nuru or body slide but she doesn't once you get there you need to show the money not give it to her then you get naked get on a massage table located in living room she starts with a crappy massage the after 15 min ask you to flip mean while she keeps checking her phone then comes the upsell saying the money isn't for the body slide that's just for her time I said fine just finish the massage and I'll be on my way then theirs a loud pounding on the door 2 guys come in and threaten you I ended up giving the money. Scary experience that's why I have been sticking with mp. She doesn't look like the pictures that should have been my first red flag. Here's her link that she uses the most. It did cost me 160 stay safe.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/sensual-touchopen-24hrfull-bod/676786602475

PostB
12-03-20, 21:48
Your link is dead but I confirmed with you via PM that this is the provider you were referencing.This is a new link for her.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sweet-and-sexy/701076304095

Wolverines
12-13-20, 21:16
Yikes. Thanks for reporting this back to the forum.

AVOID


https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/looking-to-please/477425575144

Went to see this lady last night for hh. Staying in Grand Mark lodging. Went in the room and drop the money at the table. 10 minutes later a Mexican guy showed up and asked me to leave at the gun point. I was so scared that I thought I am going to die. Avoid in any case.

Wolverines
12-13-20, 21:25
There is a report on her in the ripoff forum. Thanks for reporting back.

AVOID


This lady is a scammer. I was new and didn't read the basic rules (this was right before I found USASG), so I paid for my lesson. Never give donations unless the person is verified and is known to ask for donations. She might change her name (wasn't Peaches when I saw her ad) so just be aware of her pics and follow the advice given on here to not fall into a scam like this!

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/domination-and-fetish/caucasian_e/peaches/569028226832

Levi0113
12-15-20, 11:04
Kayla is a Herion, Meth junkie. Her boyfriend's name is Codie he just got out of jail a few months back. These people are the low of the low they will rob you, set you up drug you whatever it takes honestly I have no idea how they're still able to find rooms in Grand Rapids. They've been burning Hotels for a year now, robbing people at gun and knife point. Watch out for this one!


OK Thanks very much.

Thought saw that somewhere.