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LandRover20
09-23-22, 09:56
She confirmed your fear of obese, she's bigger than a triple D. Can't have the tits without the hips.

Mutual touch is expected, she wears a sundress and panties or yoga pants and top. Your choice of what she wears.

Advanced scheduling is required until she knows you then she open for same day schedule.

You might get an erection and she's happy to watch you take care of that yourself because she's not allowed to.Great recon as usual, Benz! My last question is, why am I still tempted to do this?

Arish
09-23-22, 10:36
Is this one real? I have seen a lot of ads for this one but can't find any information here. Tried multiple searches.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/new-clients-15-off-30-mins-rep/911935058140

Thanks.Most of her reviews are bad with a BF / handler who sticks around and is really creepy. Search the name I used in the comment line.

LakeGuy70
09-23-22, 11:05
Most of her reviews are bad with a BF / handler who sticks around and is really creepy. Search the name I used in the comment line.I tried her a few times, the last time she told that she fell asleep.

I could never connect with her.

MrHedberg1
09-23-22, 11:32
Most of her reviews are bad with a BF / handler who sticks around and is really creepy. Search the name I used in the comment line.That's unfortunate. Thank you much.

Shawtren
09-23-22, 11:58
I just wanted to take a moment to share a review of New Joy with you all. Sorry it's a little late.

Joy and I have been meeting up for years now. She ended up retiring and settling down. I was disappointed, but happy for her. We still kept in touch through it all. Well, times being what they are, she has gotten back into the hobby on a limited basis, and I couldn't be happier about it. She is a total MILF in my opinion. To this day, I love to watch her body as she leads the way for me toward the bedroom. She knows just how to let that ass swirl. Once in the bedroom, well. She can be breathtaking.

My last visit with her was no exception. I let her take control, and she happily did so, not in a rough or dominating way, but like a woman who is horny as hell and wanted my body. It's a reaction I don't normally get, so it felt wonderful. She sat me on the edge of the bed, and slowly stripped off her clothes taking her sweet time to make sure I anticipated every reveal. When she was down to just her panties, she turned around and let me slowly peel them off, and as I did she bent over to let me see what was mine for the taking. I never get tired of her in that position. My hands were all over that ass appreciating the display.

She turned around and slowly placed my hands in all the places she wanted attention, and she really got into it. And so did I! After a minute of that, she pulled me up and switched places with me. She sat on the edge of the bed and told me to take off my t-shirt. I did just as she said. She ran her hands up along my chest and belly, and I got chills. Then her hands sank down to my belt, and she wasted no time with it. Before I knew it, I was stepping out of my jeans. She reached around me and grabbed my ass to pull me close. I love when women pay attention to my ass as it is often ignored. Still in my underwear, she rubbed my hardon and caressed my balls another favorite of mine. Slowly she pulled my Hanes down, and I sprang out and she let out a little bit of a surprise, but then she went to work on me.

She has some of the best oral skills around and I had to stop her before it was too late. I wanted to try for some doggy with her which is my absolute favorite. Unfortunately for me, my body was not cooperating and I was out of blue pills. But being the professional she is, she took control once again. She said to give her what I've got right now, so I let her get back to he BBBJ. In just a little bit, I forgot about my issues, and I was spasming like crazy. She took it all. I was spent and laid back down. She snuggled up with me, and we chatted for a bit, and then I felt her fingers wrap around me, and she said it was her turn.

She turned around and mounted my face and I tasted her sweetness. Clean. Fresh. Smooth. And sensitive. She spun around and told me to make her cum and I was all too eager to comply. She rubbed herself while I tasted her, and then she started back up with the BBBJ. OMG it was so intense. Before I knew it, she was having an O on top of me, and it was so hot that I couldn't help but shoot another load. That is something I have not done in years!

I get so worked up just writing about it all that I might just have to step away for a bit.

*elevator music playing* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *.

OK, I'm back!

A fantastic rate for a sexy mature woman that absolutely knows how to please a man. I highly recommend that you schedule a visit with her while she is available in Hudsonville. She will travel to you as well for a bit more. She will work wonders on you! She puts her phone away during your visit (that's why she is often hard to reach), and she doesn't really look at the clock either, which is a welcome thing. Schedule a visit with her soon.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/pure-joy--available-tonight-in/025273468536

Be safe!

Shaw.

Benz1
09-23-22, 13:57
Great recon as usual, Benz! My last question is, why am I still tempted to do this?I'm tempted too, there might be some surprises she can't say. I love big tits and don't mind the hips (unless they include cellulite).

She left it with call or text anytime, I plan to text randomly when I'm driving through the area to see if she'll do a short notice / walk-in. If I don't like what I see I can walk right back out and keep my money.

RaulJulia
09-23-22, 14:38
She confirmed your fear of obese, she's bigger than a triple D. Can't have the tits without the hips.

Mutual touch is expected, she wears a sundress and panties or yoga pants and top. Your choice of what she wears.

Advanced scheduling is required until she knows you then she open for same day schedule.

You might get an erection and she's happy to watch you take care of that yourself because she's not allowed to.Thanks for the effort and the report Benz. I had been curious about this one too, mostly because I was intrigued by phrases she included in her ad, such as "my hands all over your body" and "finishes with face to face embrace- chest, legs, down to the toes. " Um, there's a penis and balls between the chest and the toes. If she's not "allowed" to touch the goods, then why put this stuff in her ad, except to try to dupe one of us into going for this, one of us who isn't diligent enough to ask questions up front. Maybe she just says the "not allowed" stuff on the front end to provide herself some legal deniability, but she's more open in person once your lying there naked in the room with her. One can hope. But I'm concerned to see the DIY trend spreading among massage providers. In Kalamazoo, reports are all AMPs are DIY except one (the only AMP I've been to there is the one that includes HEs, so I can't personally speak to the rest, but after reading reports of DIY, I have intentionally avoided them). Maybe some guys enjoy the DIY experience and if they do, then that's their business and not mine. But as for me personally, if I wanted to take care if it myself, I'd stay home and save my money. My whole reason for spending the time, effort, and money to see a massage provider is for the physical, intimate, and sensual touch from a female companion, hopefully a reasonably attractive one. Just my two cents. Again, appreciate the info Benz.

RaulJulia
09-23-22, 16:01
I posted this in the Kalamazoo MP forum, but thought I'd post it here too in case anyone has experience with this place.

I recently stopped by Asia Spa in Hartford. I really don't know what to make of this place. I think I was the first one to review this place. I'm in the area semi-frequently and decided to TOFTT. And my first trip didn't disappoint, nor have my other trips. This recent one was my third or fourth time there. I know a few mongers have reported bad experiences there and I think one guy was even turned away, but mine haven't been bad. But they haven't been awesome either. First, I've seen the same provider every time I've been. I even went during the day before noon this time just to try to get someone different and it was the same lady. She's a nice lady and not bad looking--petite, with a pretty decent rack for being a petite Asian lady. But I was hoping for some variety or maybe to get a different provider just to see what the experience would be like. But this lady seems to work night and day. Secondly, since I've seen her before, I wasn't shy about doing some OTC roaming with her fairly early in the massage. She responded with some nice teasing. But on the flip, she did the same thing she's done every time I've seen her. She did a bit more massage on me after the flip, then got near the goods, then sort of stopped and pulled back. I've taken this to mean that she's encouraging DIY, which I've politely refused to do. But she always acts surprised when I refuse, which makes me wonder if I'm misinterpreting what she's doing. Her English is OK, but not great so that adds to the challenge. Each time she's done this, I've just said something like, "No, you do it" or "I want you to do it" and she's obliged. And she does a pretty good job and allows some UTC roaming up top while she's doing it. But there's no sexy talk or anything like that while she does it, which is OK--not required by sometimes a nice touch. But what really confuses me about this place is that according to their ads, they have the "Best Se" which I think is a way of implying the "best sex. " I know ads aren't to be trusted, but I'm curious. Their ads come across as a thinly veiled way of saying FS is available, but in reality it takes a bit of encouragement to get a HE there. Am I missing something? Any thoughts? Anyone ever gotten more than a HE there? Thanks for any info provided.

https://kalamazoo.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/269-999-6734best-massagebest-s/199590224886

Sparty On 1234
09-23-22, 16:05
Spot on report Ben! I saw her this spring and was very satisfied. She's a very nice lady. I had a late morning session after which she offered to cook me lunch. Like you, Nuru is interesting but not my cup of tea either.

Boat.Nice review. Have seen her many times in Michigan and Florida. She is quiet but very sweet. Seems like a low volume provider. Has a great rack and ass. Never watches the clock and allows MSOG. DATY. Nice tasting shaved kitty. Will indulge in some BDSM activities if you bring the toys. Nice BBBJCIM. Cooked me a delicious real African dinner a couple of times. Have enjoyed many a bottle of wine with her. She is a nice provider and has very good skills. I also had the Nuru thing once. Sounds more enticing than it actually was. Just too messy, must shower afterwards and the like. So I skipped the Nuru massage since. She got me off on the Nuru mattress then again twice in her bed so the whole thing was worthwhile. Have seen her at her place in GR and she has done several outcalls to my place. Always no drama, good time and major releases. She is worth seeing and I am going to see her next week! Enjoy. She wants more business and wants to please. Treat her nice!

StevesMilin
09-23-22, 17:06
I just wanted to take a moment to share a review of New Joy with you all. Sorry it's a little late.

Joy and I have been meeting up for years now. She ended up retiring and settling down. I was disappointed, but happy for her. We still kept in touch through it all. Well, times being what they are, she has gotten back into the hobby on a limited basis, and I couldn't be happier about it. She is a total MILF in my opinion. To this day, I love to watch her body as she leads the way for me toward the bedroom. She knows just how to let that ass swirl. Once in the bedroom, well. She can be breathtaking.

My last visit with her was no exception. I let her take control, and she happily did so, not in a rough or dominating way, but like a woman who is horny as hell and wanted my body. It's a reaction I don't normally get, so it felt wonderful. She sat me on the edge of the bed, and slowly stripped off her clothes taking her sweet time to make sure I anticipated every reveal. When she was down to just her panties, she turned around and let me slowly peel them off, and as I did she bent over to let me see what was mine for the taking. I never get tired of her in that position. My hands were all over that ass appreciating the display.

She turned around and slowly placed my hands in all the places she wanted attention, and she really got into it. And so did I! After a minute of that, she pulled me up and switched places with me. She sat on the edge of the bed and told me to take off my t-shirt. I did just as she said. She ran her hands up along my chest and belly, and I got chills. Then her hands sank down to my belt, and she wasted no time with it. Before I knew it, I was stepping out of my jeans. She reached around me and grabbed my ass to pull me close. I love when women pay attention to my ass as it is often ignored. Still in my underwear, she rubbed my hardon and caressed my balls another favorite of mine. Slowly she pulled my Hanes down, and I sprang out and she let out a little bit of a surprise, but then she went to work on me.

She has some of the best oral skills around and I had to stop her before it was too late. I wanted to try for some doggy with her which is my absolute favorite. Unfortunately for me, my body was not cooperating and I was out of blue pills. But being the professional she is, she took control once again. She said to give her what I've got right now, so I let her get back to he BBBJ. In just a little bit, I forgot about my issues, and I was spasming like crazy. She took it all. I was spent and laid back down. She snuggled up with me, and we chatted for a bit, and then I felt her fingers wrap around me, and she said it was her turn.

She turned around and mounted my face and I tasted her sweetness. Clean. Fresh. Smooth. And sensitive. She spun around and told me to make her cum and I was all too eager to comply. She rubbed herself while I tasted her, and then she started back up with the BBBJ. OMG it was so intense. Before I knew it, she was having an O on top of me, and it was so hot that I couldn't help but shoot another load. That is something I have not done in years!

I get so worked up just writing about it all that I might just have to step away for a bit.

*elevator music playing* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *.

OK, I'm back!

A fantastic rate for a sexy mature woman that absolutely knows how to please a man. I highly recommend that you schedule a visit with her while she is available in Hudsonville. She will travel to you as well for a bit more. She will work wonders on you! She puts her phone away during your visit (that's why she is often hard to reach), and she doesn't really look at the clock either, which is a welcome thing. Schedule a visit with her soon.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/pure-joy--available-tonight-in/025273468536

Be safe!

Shaw.When I first met her several months ago after an intro from Gene2, I determined that I would not write a review, hoping to keep her to myself. Foolishly. She's posting once a week or so now. I haven't been able to coordinate a meet with her in a couple months unfortunately. I was seeing her weekly, with a one hour run from my base on the Lakeshore.

Your review was incredibly well done, ST. Now I know I have to get over there! Your words are absolutely spot on. She is one incredible woman!

Ss.

RaulJulia
09-23-22, 17:26
Just saw this ad. Does this mean there's a new provider at the Den? Is Phoenix still there too? Curious since she only listed Hunter, Lauren, or CJ in her ad. Any info?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/nola/158885419009

ATrain66
09-24-22, 08:38
Massage - 1 out of 5.

Fun time - 1 out of 5.

2 out of 10.

Worst 4-hand massage that I've ever had to date. Girls were over talkative about kids, life, issues. Seriously don't they understand that we come in here to escape life & our problems. We don't want to here their issues. The ending was abysmal.

Worst grade you could get, absolutely no repeat for me. EVER.

ATrain66
09-24-22, 08:39
Massage - 1 out 5.

Fun time - 2. 5 out of 5.

3. 5 out of 10.

Lady was bossy and older. She was open to having fun but was pushy on gratuity. That soured the experience.

Most likely won't repeat.

ATrain66
09-24-22, 08:42
Massage - 2 out 5

Fun time - 3 out of 5.

5 out of 10.

New girl was good looking with an open menu but very cold with her attitude. Everything was an upcharge.

Might repeat some day but I'm in no hurry

ATrain66
09-24-22, 08:52
Massage - 3 out 5

Funtime - 3. 75 out of 5

6. 75 out of 10.

Petite lady of color was warm attentive and made me feel amazing. Not the absolute best ever but respectable.

Repeat worthy.

ATrain66
09-24-22, 08:56
Massage - 3 out 5.

Funtime - 3. 5 out 5.

6. 5 out of 10.

Hit all the basics and then some so this place is legit.

Repeat worthy.

ATrain66
09-24-22, 09:01
Massage - 2. 5 out 5.

Funtime - 4 out 5.

6. 5 out of 10.

I think her name is summer. She is hot as F. But acts cold and distant. Paid for hour and at 38 minutes got shown the shower. Time short.

Repeat _ not any time soon but if that girl starts giving a full 50-55 minutes plus smiles she'd be unstoppable.

ATrain66
09-24-22, 09:04
Massage - 3. 5 out of 5.

Fun - 3 out of 5.

6. 5 out of 10.

It's all your basics with touch of mutual t. So you never leave blown away but it's like you get what you pay for here.

Repeat yes.

ATrain66
09-24-22, 09:07
Massage - 2 out 5.

Funtime - 2 out 5.

4 out 10.

Old talent with open menu. Lady who was in there for years seems to be gone. Downhill.

No repeat for me.

ATrain66
09-24-22, 09:10
Massage - 2 out 5.

Funtime - 2 out 5.

4 out 10 total.

Not memorable experience. Too much oil and the funtime is better at most other places.

No repeat.

ATrain66
09-24-22, 09:12
Massage - 4 out 5.

Funtime - 2 out 5.

6 out 10.

If you want a great massage then I've done good here on that front. The ending is what it is and the extra don't typically exist outside of a basic handshake before you leave.

Repeat yes.

ATrain66
09-24-22, 09:16
Not a lot of A+ walk in options but some places are still serviceable around 120 out door.

I don't go to private residences after my bad experience on the other board so when I get the time to drive South to GR I try my best to find a good walk-in place.

Enjoy my homework and stay safe.

ATrain66
09-24-22, 09:27
If I still walked into homes this would be the girl.

She's a 8. 75 out 10.


I had the pleasure of seeing the Jezebel the other day and I would say overall it was a good experience. I had seen her posts before but never contacted her until I saw a few reviews of her the last couple weeks. I'd say she is the girl in the pictures but is a skosh heavier now. Not bad by any means, had a great set on her (fake?) a nice big ass, and a fun accent. Communication was easy and the location was a nice apartment in downtown GR. Only drawback is you likely have to pay for parking but oh well.

I opted for the hour nuru session as I had never had one before. She used real nuru gel. At least that's what the packaging said but I have nothing to compare it too. The experience was. Interesting. I don' mean that as a knock on her but just the nuru thing as a whole. Not sure its my cup of tea. When I entered she was wearing a robe and got comfortable right away. We did the nuru first, followed by a shower. After there was a BBBJ followed by covered FS in multiple positions. She is by no means a clock watcher and after we finished she offered a regular massage to which I took her up on. And let me tell you, she has some strong hands! The regular massage was good and next time I will likely go that route and skip the nuru. Again, not a knock on her. As a side note the session started out a little slow in that she was kinda quiet but as things went along she warmed up and became quite playful by the end. I will repeat but skip the nuru part. Donation was 3 roses.

As always. Stay safe!

Ben.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/real-nuru-massage--let-me-spoi/298135734728

Sparty On 1234
09-24-22, 10:01
Just saw this ad. Does this mean there's a new provider at the Den? Is Phoenix still there too? Curious since she only listed Hunter, Lauren, or CJ in her ad. Any info?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/nola/158885419009This is Phoenix. Changed her name and pics as another provider hawked her name. I saw her recently. She is amazing. The best lioness in the den. Look her up.

Sparty On 1234
09-24-22, 10:02
If I still walked into homes this would be the girl.

She's a 8. 75 out 10.Accurate review. She is a much better than an average provider. Have seen her many times and well worth the price. MSOG, BBBJCIM and most anything else you want. She is a pleaser. She is very sweet so treat her nice. PM for details if you wish.

LandRover20
09-24-22, 10:28
The treasurer of my Stranger Things fan club told me he went to Relax recently and drew Lily. Said it was an amazing massage, fantastic hands with nice teasing throughout the entire time and wonderful ending. He told me there was Lily there before but has no idea if this is the same girl. I guess she's very short, even for Asian, cute and very nice and accommodating. He wishes there were more Grand Rapids Chapter fan club meetings so he could see her again. And again.

Moonglow913
09-24-22, 11:13
Massage - 2. 5 out 5.

Funtime - 4 out 5.

6. 5 out of 10.

I think her name is summer. She is hot as F. But acts cold and distant. Paid for hour and at 38 minutes got shown the shower. Time short.

Repeat _ not any time soon but if that girl starts giving a full 50-55 minutes plus smiles she'd be unstoppable.This is the rap on Summer. Hot as hell but bad attitude. To bad because if this lady became a little more friendly and flirty she'd make a fortune. I saw her pre COVID and had a great time which included the full alphabet. She was very accommodating and actually friendly. The only thing I can think of was when I pulled up to TOP she was sitting in a car with one of the other ladies, smoking a joint. When she came into the room she was obviously high but in a good way. Got comfortable right away and wasn't too interested in any massage so we were off to the races from the start. Very expensive for FS ($500) but was worth it IMHO. When I did my initial review I mentioned it was this visit that I discovered they have their own ATM on premises (LOL). Haven't returned because of all the bad reviews and assumed this was an one off. Just lucky.

Gene2
09-24-22, 16:26
Ok. Not looking to stir any conflicts here but I've noticed some interesting differences in how we men react to the beauty regimen of the women providers. And it made me think. Am I generalizing too much when I assume that each of us as men react the same way I do? Probably. So I thought it might be interesting to see varied reactions from our esteemed panel gathered here.

1. Do you prefer massage providers to have skimpy outfits on or a more professional (scrubs) type garb at the start of the session? I believe we all think whatever they wear looks best on the floor when they get nude. But I digress.

2. Do you like a lot of makeup or prefer more natural appearance?

3. Do you like hair extensions / beads or just clean and styled?

4. Do you like a lot of body jewelry and piercings?

5. How do you feel about tattoos?

6. How do you feel about false eyelashes?

7. Do you like a modest amount of perfume on her?

8. What sort of music do you like to have playing?

9. Do you like the room lit or dark?

10. Do you like teasing and edging?

11. Do you ever buy lingerie or clothes for her session?

12. Do you like to drink alcohol during the session?

13. Do you shower immediately before your session?

14. How do you ensure you have good smelling breath?

Ok. That should be enough to get the ball rolling. I have some pretty personal feelings about each of them. However, I might try to be subtle and non committal on some as I would not want to alienate any provider. For example If I say I prefer minimal piercings but I meet a girl who does great sessions but looks like a pin cushion (I'm showing my age with that reference) I wouldn't want her to stop seeing me just because of a silly preference. And even though this is in the massage thread, it could also apply to escorts.

I'll share my own preferences if this thought provoking posts generates any interest among you purveyors here.

Contemplate.

G2.

Benz1
09-24-22, 20:50
The only thought it provoked for me is / Why?

Skills aren't listed, that's my preference, skills.

Posting this here? Why duplicate a list of questions that probably belong in the General Reports? Definitely a general report question, since all of the questions could apply to escort or MP including Skills.

Member #6481
09-24-22, 21:13
Ok. Not looking to stir any conflicts here but I've noticed some interesting differences in how we men react to the beauty regimen of the women providers. And it made me think. Am I generalizing too much when I assume that each of us as men react the same way I do? Probably. So I thought it might be interesting to see varied reactions from our esteemed panel gathered here.

1. Do you prefer massage providers to have skimpy outfits on or a more professional (scrubs) type garb at the start of the session? I believe we all think whatever they wear looks best on the floor when they get nude. But I digress.

2. Do you like a lot of makeup or prefer more natural appearance?

3. Do you like hair extensions / beads or just clean and styled?

4. Do you like a lot of body jewelry and piercings?

5. How do you feel about tattoos?

6. How do you feel about false eyelashes?

7. Do you like a modest amount of perfume on her?

8. What sort of music do you like to have playing?

9. Do you like the room lit or dark?

10. Do you like teasing and edging?

11. Do you ever buy lingerie or clothes for her session?

12. Do you like to drink alcohol during the session?

13. Do you shower immediately before your session?

14. How do you ensure you have good smelling breath?

Ok. That should be enough to get the ball rolling. I have some pretty personal feelings about each of them. However, I might try to be subtle and non committal on some as I would not want to alienate any provider. For example If I say I prefer minimal piercings but I meet a girl who does great sessions but looks like a pin cushion (I'm showing my age with that reference) I wouldn't want her to stop seeing me just because of a silly preference. And even though this is in the massage thread, it could also apply to escorts.

I'll share my own preferences if this thought provoking posts generates any interest among you purveyors here.

Contemplate.

G2.Both have really been very helpful so tip of the hat to each.

My tastes align more with G2. Looks go a long, long way for me. Im visual. Rough looking but talented doesn't do it for me. I'm the rare guy who loves DATY and FS but BJ isn't essential. Many of my best dreams didnt involve a BJ.

Their place must be clean and relaxing. The girl must reflect this as well. Some perfume would be very welcome but sadly most don't. Heels and sexy attire are very important. Lots of Tattoos are distracting and trashy. Few or none are preferred.

NoseJelly
09-24-22, 23:17
I prefer Rigatoni instead of Spaghetti. YMMV.

Numanera
09-25-22, 01:13
I managed to see Cassidy a few days ago. It was a short stay, but very fun. She gave me a great back massage. Applied strong pressure, which is how I like it. I had a great time and I look forward to a longer stay next time.

Sparty On 1234
09-25-22, 08:34
Both have really been very helpful so tip of the hat to each.

My tastes align more with G2. Looks go a long, long way for me. Im visual. Rough looking but talented doesn't do it for me. I'm the rare guy who loves DATY and FS but BJ isn't essential. Many of my best dreams didnt involve a BJ.

Their place must be clean and relaxing. The girl must reflect this as well. Some perfume would be very welcome but sadly most don't. Heels and sexy attire are very important. Lots of Tattoos are distracting and trashy. Few or none are preferred.Interesting survey. Will be watching for responses. See mine below:

1. Do you prefer massage providers to have skimpy outfits on or a more professional (scrubs) type garb at the start of the session? I believe we all think whatever they wear looks best on the floor when they get nude. But I digress. Really don't care. Prefer them to get comfortable while I do the same so I can get a good look at her first.

2. Do you like a lot of makeup or prefer more natural appearance? Natural is sexier to me but hair done nicely helps.

3. Do you like hair extensions / beads or just clean and styled? No.

4. Do you like a lot of body jewelry and piercings? Not really but if tasteful can be OK. Pierced nipples I enjoy but not pierced clits.

5. How do you feel about tattoos? OK but lean away from them.

6. How do you feel about false eyelashes? Turn off.

7. Do you like a modest amount of perfume on her? No. Less is best.

8. What sort of music do you like to have playing? Very soft, sensual music is best for me. Often the music is rap and too loud, but I am old!

9. Do you like the room lit or dark? Like some soft lighting but not bright lights.

10. Do you like teasing and edging? As much as possible.

11. Do you ever buy lingerie or clothes for her session? Yes. Rare provider but have done this. Quite erotic actually.

12. Do you like to drink alcohol during the session? Sometimes but only in moderation. One glass of wine.

13. Do you shower immediately before your session? Yes. Always and is a must.

14. How do you ensure you have good smelling breath? Keep breath mints in the car and take one before meeting. Always! Like providers who leave mouthwash in their bathrooms too.

RallyToo
09-25-22, 10:31
Saw Victoria, from Craigslist ad recently. Her ad is down now so I can't post a link. Communication was pretty good, was able to schedule a last minute appointment. She greeted me at the door with a smile. She's not young, probably 50's. I undressed and laid on the table. She introduced herself as Vickie and got comfortable before she started massaging my back. She does have a tramp stamp but I couldn't tell what it was (based on prior reviews I was curious if it was Tori From years ago). Massage was good with some teasing. On the flip I got the vibe that she prefers massaging the back side but does offer the ending to keep people happy. Overall the massage was good and I'd consider returning for that but I prefer some of the younger options in town. She' a sweet lady, carries on an intelligent conversation, and a comfortable location.Had the exact same experience with Victoria. And probably won't repeat because of other options. That said, her rates are very reasonable.

Benz1
09-25-22, 13:55
Thanks for the effort and the report Benz. I had been curious about this one too, mostly because I was intrigued by phrases she included in her ad, such as "my hands all over your body" and "finishes with face to face embrace- chest, legs, down to the toes. " Um, there's a penis and balls between the chest and the toes. If she's not "allowed" to touch the goods, then why put this stuff in her ad, except to try to dupe one of us into going for this, one of us who isn't diligent enough to ask questions up front. Maybe she just says the "not allowed" stuff on the front end to provide herself some legal deniability, but she's more open in person once your lying there naked in the room with her. One can hope. But I'm concerned to see the DIY trend spreading among massage providers. In Kalamazoo, reports are all AMPs are DIY except one (the only AMP I've been to there is the one that includes HEs, so I can't personally speak to the rest, but after reading reports of DIY, I have intentionally avoided them). Maybe some guys enjoy the DIY experience and if they do, then that's their business and not mine. But as for me personally, if I wanted to take care if it myself, I'd stay home and save my money. My whole reason for spending the time, effort, and money to see a massage provider is for the physical, intimate, and sensual touch from a female companion, hopefully a reasonably attractive one. Just my two cents. Again, appreciate the info Benz.I've always saved the DIY for last resort in a massage session. If I end up with DIY it's because the massage was bad and I assume no more effort will be put into the ending than the massage. Another reason is upcharge not worth it when I see my dick as just another muscle she can rub until I'm finished. If the massage was good and the upcharge is reasonable then I'll tip for the ending as a reward for an overall job well done. I'm extremely picky so I don't end up tipping for a HJ very often.

In the case of a cuddle provider trying to protect her business from LE, I can assume the text about touching from head to toe is more accurate than her disclaimer.

I'm assuming with a triple D rack the rest will be size appropriate, if it looks like cottage cheese or jello I'm out the door with my money. If she's firm and playful, I'll explore the options. On the phone she spoke of giving massage also and draping would be required but the cuddles were clothing optional. She's appears to be checking the right boxes for anyone trying to read between the lines.

I have a feeling a cuddle session with a triple D BBW could easily lead to Russian.

It's only a hundred bucks (Plus tip? If any) I'm all in for something new to do.

I'll TOFTT Tuesday or Wednesday. Providing shell schedule short notice, I don't make advanced appointments.

She said I can choose her outfit, I'll choose the sundress and panties over the yoga pants and top. Hopefully more accessible roaming under the sundress.

If the appointment is a wreck, I'll do what I usually do after a bad massage for see a hooker for a BBBJ to finish the day. Jenna is 5 miles away from the cuddle session.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/slutty-sunday-616-947-7170-jen/971269059517

Rossm
09-25-22, 17:12
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/massage-by-leia-/663501137332

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/other/ella--/170318445732

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/massage-by-bella-/382493514684

Bacardi1314
09-25-22, 20:16
Has anyone been offered FS at this place.Yes, FS is available here for the right price.

JVisaGod
09-25-22, 21:11
This is Phoenix. Changed her name and pics as another provider hawked her name. I saw her recently. She is amazing. The best lioness in the den. Look her up.Don't know why she would do that when she looks better than those pics.

Gatorade1972
09-25-22, 23:12
Visited Hunters Den this weekend and saw Hunter for the first time. DAMN, I'm in trouble. Hunter is awesome. She made feel like we've known each other for long time. Got to the room and she got comfortable right away. She oozes sex appeal. Can't wait to see her again.

Gene2
09-25-22, 23:20
Visited Hunters Den this weekend and saw Hunter for the first time. DAMN, I'm in trouble. Hunter is awesome. She made feel like we've known each other for long time. Got to the room and she got comfortable right away. She oozes sex appeal. Can't wait to see her again.She is fantastic. Hard to believe the four incredible women are all at the same place, the Den.

Lauren.

Hunter.

Cassidy James.

Phoenix.

The Four!

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter-/053436521571

Enjoy.

G2.

RaulJulia
09-26-22, 02:50
This is Phoenix. Changed her name and pics as another provider hawked her name. I saw her recently. She is amazing. The best lioness in the den. Look her up.Thanks for the info. I wondered if maybe this was Phoenix using a different name, but her pics looked somewhat different and her boobs looked bigger to me in this ad than in her previous ads. I haven't seen her in person yet. Was scheduled to once, but plans got changed. Hoping to remedy that soon. Thanks again.

Gene2
09-26-22, 09:07
She is fantastic. Hard to believe the four incredible women are all at the same place, the Den.

Lauren.
Hunter.
Cassidy James.
Phoenix.
The Four!

Enjoy.

G2.Turns out Hunter has a new phone number which will result in easier contact via text. So she has a new post.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter--new-number/769743528282

Lauren's post:

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/067901496076

Phoenix's post:

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/-phoenix-/720901374676

Cassidy James' post:

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/cassidy-james/231471637992

Going to be a busy week at the Den. They all are high quality but low volume. So if you're looking to schedule, better do so early.

Enjoy.

G2.

Sparty On 1234
09-26-22, 09:12
Thanks for the info. I wondered if maybe this was Phoenix using a different name, but her pics looked somewhat different and her boobs looked bigger to me in this ad than in her previous ads. I haven't seen her in person yet. Was scheduled to once, but plans got changed. Hoping to remedy that soon. Thanks again.It is definitely her. We talked about out. No big deal. Another STG providers is using her name and she wanted to avoid any confusion. Her tits are big and natural, and she will let you suck them as long as you want. She is amazing is you want a sensuous hour. He BBBJ technique is mind blowing. One of the best I have ever received, and she seems to love giving head. Her 23 yo kitty is also quite amazing and will drip through the session. DATY as long as you want also as well as a long, sensuous 69. I think she is the best lioness the den and I have banged them all more than once. Enjoy.

Benz1
09-26-22, 09:53
Curious about this one: https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/belmont-healing-mind-body-spirit-healing/7528229821.html.

Rates aren't cheap. Would hate to show up and have her be obese or something.Setting up a time to see her and she can't talk, text only because she hasn't paid her bill.
I spoke to her last week and after hearing her voicemail today, the tone of her voice indicates to me she is not Caucasian.
Her losing cell service tells me she needs the money and more will likely be offered.

More updates tomorrow.

Trobber222
09-26-22, 13:53
Texted for locale and rates. She's at Panacea.

Wants $140 on top of door fee. For nude HJ.

220/ hr is a bit steep for that. But holy craps she's hot as hell.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/layla-rylie--new-number-/736113891353

Vmax3754
09-26-22, 14:43
Anyone seen her or know if she is legit?


New to GR and just saw this post and can't find any information on thi beautiful young lady. Anyone have news?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/madison-/559441520785

Pete3854
09-26-22, 15:04
Texted for locale and rates. She's at Panacea.

Wants $140 on top of door fee. For nude HJ.

220/ hr is a bit steep for that. But holy craps she's hot as hell.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/layla-rylie--new-number-/736113891353She reads the reviews here apparently. She sees that other less attractive ladies are getting that for a nude HJ. Smart lady.

Gene2
09-26-22, 19:44
She reads the reviews here apparently. She sees that other less attractive ladies are getting that for a nude HJ. Smart lady.


Texted for locale and rates. She's at Panacea.

Wants $140 on top of door fee. For nude HJ.

220/ hr is a bit steep for that. But holy craps she's hot as hell.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/layla-rylie--new-number-/736113891353Some of the wording she uses reminds of Lola Dior from pacific. She used incredible photos that looked nothing like her. And advertised prices for nude HJ which involved moving her shirt up a bit. And her pants down a bit with extremely limited touching and severe time shorting. If it looks too good to be true.

Contemplate.

G2.

Love The Lips
09-27-22, 01:34
Texted for locale and rates. She's at Panacea.

Wants $140 on top of door fee. For nude HJ.

220/ hr is a bit steep for that. But holy craps she's hot as hell.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/layla-rylie--new-number-/736113891353Guys please, Please don't give in to these crazy prices no matter how hot the provider may be! I haven't been to Panacea in awhile but it use to be my go to when they had Much more realistic pricing. It use to be that if your tip matched the door fee it always included the girl getting completely nude at the start and of course always included extensive roaming, titty sucking, usually fiv and most were open to daty. The good ones never brought up tip amounts. They knew if they did their job, they would get a generous tip that reflected their service. I miss the good old days!

Mr Cruzer
09-27-22, 10:55
Had a very good experience with Tosha. I went in with a positive attitude, which helped: she called 15 minutes ahead of my scheduled time and told me she was running 1/2 hour behind, and would I mind waiting; her place is in a very old, somewhat rundown trailer park off of Plainfield, behind Fields Fabrics and Meijers. Also during the MS she used a lot of warm oil, which did not wipe off very well, and I left still feeling kind of oily.

She greeted me warmly, and explained the routine. She's very personable, energetic, and communication was excellent throughout the session. She is short and stocky with kind of a big butt, but build very solid, with fantastic huge boobs (said she was triple G, is there even is such a size?) but are very firm. I got nude, she stayed covered the whole time. MS very good, moved around and did not stay in one area forever, and listened to my preferences. Some very nice teasing (she referred it as her Signature Move) before the flip. Did some nice front massage.

When she stated the end of the session, I asked about finishing Mr Happy. She stated I was free to finish myself at any time. I said it would be more fun if she did it; she then said depends, basically nicely hinting about tip. Told her I always tip. She straddled me, did some light blowing, and asked how I would like the ending done. We agreed on a HJ, which was one of best I have ever received, ever.

I will repeat. She is somewhat selective and does some screening, as she uses her residence. She does watch the time (although we went over an hour), but never mentions how much to tip. The menu is good, depends on your budget and what program you select. 50/70.

LandRover20
09-27-22, 12:29
Setting up a time to see her and she can't talk, text only because she hasn't paid her bill.
I spoke to her last week and after hearing her voicemail today, the tone of her voice indicates to me she is not Caucasian.
Her losing cell service tells me she needs the money and more will likely be offered.

More updates tomorrow.Waiting intently for your report, Benz.

Benz1
09-27-22, 12:40
Waiting intently for your report, Benz.She has to get her phone started again and I haven't texted her back, delay till tomorrow, she sent me a text. I'm going soon just don't know when, it's creating a little anxiety on her part. Hopefully she needs the money and makes more service available on day one.

Trobber222
09-27-22, 13:13
Guys please, Please don't give in to these crazy prices no matter how hot the provider may be! I haven't been to Panacea in awhile but it use to be my go to when they had Much more realistic pricing. It use to be that if your tip matched the door fee it always included the girl getting completely nude at the start and of course always included extensive roaming, titty sucking, usually fiv and most were open to daty. The good ones never brought up tip amounts. They knew if they did their job, they would get a generous tip that reflected their service. I miss the good old days!I didn't go. That's what she was asking for- I passed. 220 is ri-fucking-diculous. If those pics are her though. And she came down to earth like the known girls at panacea, it would be worth a TOFT visit.

I went to see Brit instead downtown. 30 minutes, great experience as always. I guess 36th street is closed while the barbershop gets licensed properly. She stated the only cameras out there are outside, and one in that hall to her room so she can see when a client is arriving.

LakeGuy70
09-27-22, 14:41
I didn't go. That's what she was asking for- I passed. 220 is ri-fucking-diculous. If those pics are her though. And she came down to earth like the known girls at panacea, it would be worth a TOFT visit.

I went to see Brit instead downtown. 30 minutes, great experience as always. I guess 36th street is closed while the barbershop gets licensed properly. She stated the only cameras out there are outside, and one in that hall to her room so she can see when a client is arriving.I was within a half mile of there today for a meeting and had planned on stopping in for an hour massage but I didn't because of what your saying about the price. If we all back off they will have to lower it. Thanks just my two cents worth.

Tommey
09-27-22, 19:21
Guys please, Please don't give in to these crazy prices no matter how hot the provider may be! I haven't been to Panacea in awhile but it use to be my go to when they had Much more realistic pricing. It use to be that if your tip matched the door fee it always included the girl getting completely nude at the start and of course always included extensive roaming, titty sucking, usually fiv and most were open to daty. The good ones never brought up tip amounts. They knew if they did their job, they would get a generous tip that reflected their service. I miss the good old days!Agreed. The newer girls are out of control. There are still some good gals there. Check out Ava (Avaa), Kayla, Natalie and Melissa for a good, quality, fun visit, and for reasonable money. I haven't seen Peyton in recent ads either, but if she's still in, she's good. I have heard good comments about Kelly and Mel, but haven't seen yet, so cannot personally endorse. I'm curious to see or learn more about Jaslyn, as her pic is very pretty, just haven't caught up with her yet (and she's not included in recent ads. So question mark). Any senior members with intel on Jaslyn, please share (publicly and / or in PM). Some of the other women have been there a while, and may be reasonable, such as Paige. Been a while since I saw her, so I can't comment.

Otherwise, I'd be very cautious about the rest. The newer gals all seem to think they can ask 2 times the time fee just to take their top off (not the bra, just the top), and far far more for anything beyond. Not a great business model, IMHO.

Benz1
09-27-22, 19:43
I was within a half mile of there today for a meeting and had planned on stopping in for an hour massage but I didn't because of what your saying about the price. If we all back off they will have to lower it. Thanks just my two cents worth.My thoughts exactly.

LoveSloppyLast
09-27-22, 20:27
Texted for locale and rates. She's at Panacea.

Wants $140 on top of door fee. For nude HJ.

220/ hr is a bit steep for that. But holy craps she's hot as hell.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/layla-rylie--new-number-/736113891353The woman may be attractive but seriously? I didn't stop there today because of that reason. (I enjoyed BBQ instead.).

I just returned from Las Vegas and had a BBFSCIP at an AMP for this price. And she was quite attractive and asked for it deep inside her. No way does it make sense to pay for bare skin that one might get to rub when the full meal deal is the ultimate goal (for someone like me anyway. The fuse won't get lit in a bag). Certainly YMMV and BBCIP it is not for everyone, but finding these numbers in GR is enough to make me buy another roll of paper towels and peruse Pornhub or xnxx rather than go out and lay out the equivalent of a mortgage payment for a squirt.

LSL.

Gatorade1972
09-27-22, 20:58
Agreed. The newer girls are out of control. There are still some good gals there. Check out Ava (Avaa), Kayla, Natalie and Melissa for a good, quality, fun visit, and for reasonable money. I haven't seen Peyton in recent ads either, but if she's still in, she's good. I have heard good comments about Kelly and Mel, but haven't seen yet, so cannot personally endorse. I'm curious to see or learn more about Jaslyn, as her pic is very pretty, just haven't caught up with her yet (and she's not included in recent ads. So question mark). Any senior members with intel on Jaslyn, please share (publicly and / or in PM). Some of the other women have been there a while, and may be reasonable, such as Paige. Been a while since I saw her, so I can't comment.

Otherwise, I'd be very cautious about the rest. The newer gals all seem to think they can ask 2 times the time fee just to take their top off (not the bra, just the top), and far far more for anything beyond. Not a great business model, IMHO.I can say Kelly is one of the best ones there. IMO. She gives great massages and HE there. I have seen her several times.

Merlot69
09-27-22, 21:08
When I first met her several months ago after an intro from Gene2, I determined that I would not write a review, hoping to keep her to myself. Foolishly. She's posting once a week or so now. I haven't been able to coordinate a meet with her in a couple months unfortunately. I was seeing her weekly, with a one hour run from my base on the Lakeshore.

Your review was incredibly well done, ST. Now I know I have to get over there! Your words are absolutely spot on. She is one incredible woman!

Ss.Put me off for over an hour then she ghosted me stay away.

Mr Cruzer
09-27-22, 21:35
I can say Kelly is one of the best ones there. IMO. She gives great massages and HE there. I have seen her several times.I agree, Kelly is great. Low key, no push for tip, great attitude. I have not been back to Panacea since they raised their rates 33%. Just not worth it.

Rossm
09-28-22, 07:01
I agree, Kelly is great. Low key, no push for tip, great attitude. I have not been back to Panacea since they raised their rates 33%. Just not worth it.I've fired them for the same reasons. It might be a cold winter over there.

LakeGuy70
09-28-22, 08:42
I've fired them for the same reasons. It might be a cold winter over there.That's what we have to do is just stand our ground, they should get more reasonable pricing than.

FastHustler
09-28-22, 11:52
I stopped going as well I prefer an hour and there rates are too high so I've been going to relax and a few places out of town. I keep looking to see if they lower the hour rate. And until they do I'm not going back.

DaddyJoel
09-28-22, 13:29
Does anyone know what happened to Saje at bbu? She's no longer listed on their website. Any information on where she went to would be appreciated.

Thank you and as always, be safe.

Mongerlian
09-28-22, 14:12
Anyone ever visit this one?

https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/belmont-healing-mind-body-spirit-healing/7528229821.html

Price seems steep if there's no HE, especially with the cuddling and all.

Benz1
09-28-22, 14:16
Anyone ever visit this one?

https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/belmont-healing-mind-body-spirit-healing/7528229821.html

Price seems steep if there's no HE, especially with the cuddling and all.Your link isn't working.
I've been chatting with a cuddle girl named Tasha, she's expecting advanced appointments and I'm more of a daily planner because my wife works from home randomly, never know when she works at the Office or home. If this is Tasha Ive had good communication so far but that's all. She claims to be sporting larger than triple D, sounds A.A. cuddle details are flexible including DIY while she watches. She's willing to wear sundress with panties. With a triple D rack , I'm guessing the panties will be large too.
If shes a voyeur and likes to watch , I'm going to disappoint her.
My plan is to see if Russian is an option for finishing, if not I'll go see Jenna or Breezii right after the cuddle appointment for an expert BJ

Mongerlian
09-28-22, 15:06
Your link isn't working.
I've been chatting with a cuddle girl named Tasha, she's expecting advanced appointments and I'm more of a daily planner because my wife works from home randomly, never know when she works at the Office or home. If this is Tasha Ive had good communication so far but that's all. She claims to be sporting larger than triple D, sounds A.A. cuddle details are flexible including DIY while she watches. She's willing to wear sundress with panties. With a triple D rack , I'm guessing the panties will be large too.
If shes a voyeur and likes to watch , I'm going to disappoint her.
My plan is to see if Russian is an option for finishing, if not I'll go see Jenna or Breezii right after the cuddle appointment for an expert BJWeird, I just copy and pasted the link I posted and it worked for me. I don't know why it won't hyperlink but if you copy it works.

Benz1
09-28-22, 15:14
https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/belmont-healing-mind-body-spirit-healing/7528229821.html

Same girl I've been talking to. Tried seeing her today but our schedules didn't match

YouCon45
09-28-22, 21:01
Just letting some of you lucky one's out there know if you have the digits for Gene's Utr she has 3 openings tomorrow.

9 am 11 am and 1245 pm.

In the area of 131 and 54th.

This is only for her clients that she has seen before and has her digits.

This is per her request I am not to give out her digits. Please don't ask me for them I will not give them out or respond to requests for them.

You guys that have her digits know who she is! Have fun for the lucky 3.

Be safe!!

Youcon45.

Member #6286
09-28-22, 22:33
The woman may be attractive but seriously? I didn't stop there today because of that reason. (I enjoyed BBQ instead.).

I just returned from Las Vegas and had a BBFSCIP at an AMP for this price. And she was quite attractive and asked for it deep inside her. No way does it make sense to pay for bare skin that one might get to rub when the full meal deal is the ultimate goal (for someone like me anyway. The fuse won't get lit in a bag). Certainly YMMV and BBCIP it is not for everyone, but finding these numbers in GR is enough to make me buy another roll of paper towels and peruse Pornhub or xnxx rather than go out and lay out the equivalent of a mortgage payment for a squirt.

LSL.I think this is apples and oranges. First, this is not a BBFS forum. Not judging your choice on safety or style, just simply stating that you can't pass judgment when your standard is for BBFS which is highly unusual and unlikely for who is discussed on this forum. Finally, using that same filter to assess whether the fee is justified or not is another misaligned opinion for this forum.

Gene2
09-28-22, 22:36
Just letting some of you lucky one's out there know if you have the digits for Gene's Utr she has 3 openings tomorrow.

9 am 11 am and 1245 pm.

In the area of 131 and 54th.

This is only for her clients that she has seen before and has her digits.

This is per her request I am not to give out her digits. Please don't ask me for them I will not give them out or respond to requests for them.

You guys that have her digits know who she is! Have fun for the lucky 3.

Be safe!!

Youcon45.Glad you enjoyed her. She's intelligent and beautiful. A lethal combination. She's a massage provider with a limited menu, but great looking. Great conversation. And mind blowing eye contact. She is limited availability. I will respond to accredited seniors wanting her contact info. If you're not a longer standing contributing member, keep posting to gain credibility. She's worth your effort.

Enjoy.

G2.

Mr Cruzer
09-29-22, 11:43
https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/grand-rapids-hard-workers-diabetics/7535056500.html

Spelled name wrong, and couldn't add link before on my post, 15053. Hopes this works.

HeeJunk
09-29-22, 13:06
The woman may be attractive but seriously? I didn't stop there today because of that reason. (I enjoyed BBQ instead.).

I just returned from Las Vegas and had a BBFSCIP at an AMP for this price. And she was quite attractive and asked for it deep inside her. No way does it make sense to pay for bare skin that one might get to rub when the full meal deal is the ultimate goal (for someone like me anyway. The fuse won't get lit in a bag). Certainly YMMV and BBCIP it is not for everyone, but finding these numbers in GR is enough to make me buy another roll of paper towels and peruse Pornhub or xnxx rather than go out and lay out the equivalent of a mortgage payment for a squirt.

LSL.He paid total 220. I thought you paid 270 in vegas At PW?

Macthesword
09-29-22, 13:30
Was in town last week and decided to try Luxe based on reports here. Got Issa. Incredible body sporting Daisy Dukes and a fantastic rack. Very sweet personality.

Ad said 75 for massage, she said it was 100 but I told her ad said 75 she said ok. Gave her a 100 she came back with $15 I said there should be another 10 she said she would get it I said just keep it we'll figure it out later.

Massage was good but not great. On flip she told me what she was offering. Wanted 1. 2 for standard 1. 8 for topless and 2. 5 for release between the girls. Say what? Ouch! As much as I would have loved to have done that there was no way I was paying that much for tit fk or could afford to.

I told her all I had was 80 which was the truth she had agreled to standard finish for that. She didballow OTC Which was nice based on the size of them I've loved to have been under the top. She was wearing some sort of sport top so she would have had to have removed it for that to happen which didn't.

She also shorted me 20 minutes that's a 3rd of the time I paid for a big no no in my book She had a great personality and incredible body but would not repeat based on price and shorting my time that I paid for.

Boriken67
09-29-22, 13:33
Hello everyone!

Visited w / Lauren this morning at the den. Needless to say, reviews are true. Excellent communication and better time. If you have the opportunity to see her, you will not be disappointed. Text her and set up an appointment when you have a chance.

Benz1
09-29-22, 14:02
https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/grand-rapids-hard-workers-diabetics/7535056500.html

Spelled name wrong, and couldn't add link before on my post, 15053. Hopes this works.I'm interested and will take one for the team, if she's ever willing to schedule same day service.

LoveSloppyLast
09-29-22, 14:40
He paid total 220. I thought you paid 270 in vegas At PW?You are correct: my error. I have to stop writing when tired.

I handed $$ to Nikki at PW. And neglected to mention the door of. 7 which was accepted by a mamasan. From what I have read, I probably could have skated for a lot less, but it was my final blowout (so to speak) and wanted to insure the full meal deal from a good looking lady.

LSL.

SpazzBoy78
09-29-22, 19:45
I meet with Krissy the other day and had an hour session. I took a nuru massage. She didn't have her nuru gel and just used basic massage lotion. The massage itself was really good for someone working independent. I have meant a couple other providers in the past and I enjoyed her massage probably the best out of all them. She is very kind and friendly and makes you feel very comfortable with small talk.

She told me she used to work at Helping Hands I believe.

She first worked my back side and then I flipped over. When I flipped over she got topless but left her shorts on. After properly massaging my front professionally, that is when the fun started.

Krissy started teasing me with her breast and let me kiss them. She even used her mouth to tease my nipples. There was some closed mouth kissing. Then she gave me a BBBJ. If any of you had oral from Curly Sue aka Jenna, I think she is on par with her.

She didn't ever make me feel rushed and seem to really enjoy what she was doing. She made it very clear when I first came there would be no sex.

If interested in seeing her just know that she has 2 other jobs. So she has limited availability and you have to be patient.

I at first didn't want to write this review and keep her all to myself. She is trying to turn this into her full time gig. So I figured I would help her out.

https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/grand-rapids-therapeutic-massages-done/7539592551.html

Swcdt
09-29-22, 19:45
Haven't been very active lately but I had some time to kill recently so I did a walk in at Panacea. I know the risks of walk ins there, but sometimes it works out good. Not so much this time. I was greeted at the desk by melanie and thought it was going to be ok. She took me to a room and as she walked away she says, someone will be with you shortly. So about 10 minutes later in walks a not so attractive short gal with long black hair that was dressed like a hobo. She did a half assed oily rub with no teasing and minimal chat. Then she asked if I wanted a HJ. Of course, I said. Asked her if the top comes off and she says yes but that costs more. At this point she had no idea how much I was planning on tipping. So I said what do you mean more? She says its. 6 for the HJ and another. 4 for the top to come off. I told her that's not going to happen and we can just stop right now. Then she tried offering the HJ for. 5 with the top still on. I got up and got dressed and walked away. I'm sure I will return, but ill ask who is available next time. Hopefully sophia will learn how this stuff works, or just go away and stop tarnishing the business.

Swcdt
09-29-22, 19:53
Texted for locale and rates. She's at Panacea.

Wants $140 on top of door fee. For nude HJ.

220/ hr is a bit steep for that. But holy craps she's hot as hell.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/layla-rylie--new-number-/736113891353Well, looks like Layla Rylie is already gone from Panacea. I she she's advertising herself with a new number and new location, on Plainfield. I'm guessing she's at wonder now.

Gene2
09-29-22, 23:43
Ah. The heart just flutters at the sound of her name. So many of us here smile at the thought of time spent with this goddess. I almost hate to point out to you heathens that she is making a rare weekend appearance in our adventure laden fantasies. Maybe I should book all of the limited number of appointments available and keep this mocha skinned lovely to myself. If you have experienced this embodiment of sensual pleasure, you know of what I speak. She simply continues to astound. And she apparently has a couple appointments available on Friday and Saturday for whatever lucky lottery winner has the good fortune to schedule with her.

Remember she likes cognac. But if you cheap bastards can't pull that off. Then try bringing sweet fruit wine and fresh fruit like blueberries and raspberries and grapes. Or maybe a bagel with avocado cream cheese. Why am I helping you imbeciles? It's because she deserves better than what we bring! Bring gifts. Bring tips. Whatever you give will be so worth it.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/390827635228

Enjoy.

G2.

Stroker417
09-30-22, 10:02
I meet with Krissy the other day and had an hour session. I took a nuru massage. She didn't have her nuru gel and just used basic massage lotion. The massage itself was really good for someone working independent. I have meant a couple other providers in the past and I enjoyed her massage probably the best out of all them. She is very kind and friendly and makes you feel very comfortable with small talk.

She told me she used to work at Helping Hands I believe.

She first worked my back side and then I flipped over. When I flipped over she got topless but left her shorts on. After properly massaging my front professionally, that is when the fun started.

Krissy started teasing me with her breast and let me kiss them. She even used her mouth to tease my nipples. There was some closed mouth kissing. Then she gave me a BBBJ. If any of you had oral from Curly Sue aka Jenna, I think she is on par with her.

She didn't ever make me feel rushed and seem to really enjoy what she was doing. She made it very clear when I first came there would be no sex.

If interested in seeing her just know that she has 2 other jobs. So she has limited availability and you have to be patient.

I at first didn't want to write this review and keep her all to myself. She is trying to turn this into her full time gig. So I figured I would help her out.

https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/grand-rapids-therapeutic-massages-done/7539592551.htmlI was interested in seeing her until she said she worked out out of a garage. I said its kind of cold to do a massage in a garage. She then said she was going to get a motel room on the NW side of town. Then crickets.

What was the donation and where did the"event" take place?

Mongerlian
09-30-22, 11:02
Ah. The heart just flutters at the sound of her name. So many of us here smile at the thought of time spent with this goddess. I almost hate to point out to you heathens that she is making a rare weekend appearance in our adventure laden fantasies. Maybe I should book all of the limited number of appointments available and keep this mocha skinned lovely to myself. If you have experienced this embodiment of sensual pleasure, you know of what I speak. She simply continues to astound. And she apparently has a couple appointments available on Friday and Saturday for whatever lucky lottery winner has the good fortune to schedule with her.

Remember she likes cognac. But if you cheap bastards can't pull that off. Then try bringing sweet fruit wine and fresh fruit like blueberries and raspberries and grapes. Or maybe a bagel with avocado cream cheese. Why am I helping you imbeciles? It's because she deserves better than what we bring! Bring gifts. Bring tips. Whatever you give will be so worth it.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/390827635228

Enjoy.

G2.Be great if I actually could enjoy, but on the rare times she allows new clients, I never hear back. I'll keep trying, because I'm interested in someone who merits such high praise, but she's clearly got you under her spell. Nothing to feel bad about, I've been hypnotized and went simp once or twice in my earlier mongering days. Now I know that they deserve the rate we pay, and we deserve great service for paying that rate. If I pay more for them to act more GFE, then that's what I'm paying for. I'm completely certain she is a lovely woman and kind soul and I certainly hope to experience her and all of the den. I'll probably end up under her spell too, but not if I never get the chance.

Member #6603
09-30-22, 11:59
Ah. The heart just flutters at the sound of her name. So many of us here smile at the thought of time spent with this goddess. I almost hate to point out to you heathens that she is making a rare weekend appearance in our adventure laden fantasies. Maybe I should book all of the limited number of appointments available and keep this mocha skinned lovely to myself. If you have experienced this embodiment of sensual pleasure, you know of what I speak. She simply continues to astound. And she apparently has a couple appointments available on Friday and Saturday for whatever lucky lottery winner has the good fortune to schedule with her.

Remember she likes cognac. But if you cheap bastards can't pull that off. Then try bringing sweet fruit wine and fresh fruit like blueberries and raspberries and grapes. Or maybe a bagel with avocado cream cheese. Why am I helping you imbeciles? It's because she deserves better than what we bring! Bring gifts. Bring tips. Whatever you give will be so worth it.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/390827635228

Enjoy.

G2.Ha! Such a way with words, Gene! But all very true! She is truly wonderful and amazing!

Member #6286
09-30-22, 13:23
She's advertising on stg but I searched and no reviews. Pics look slim and hot and young lots of ink. Anyone experience of her?

MaesHut
09-30-22, 13:57
Hello all!

New here and had a question.

Going to be in GR in a couple of weeks and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on where to go. Looking for a provider that does BBBJCIM in their massage. I've heard Asian Ivy is a good place but haven't seen anything about them providing this service. I've also read through the forum a bit and saw some very high recommendations for Jezebel. Any recommendations are appreciated!

LandRover20
10-01-22, 10:47
A friend was in Relax recently for what he described as another stellar session with Lily. On his way out he noticed a taller girl, nice body, cute face, longish hair, maybe 35-40. Anyone know who that might be? Feel free to PM me.

Merlot69
10-01-22, 10:47
Whos the go to girl here a do they offer full menu there all pretty any feedback of menu.

LandRover20
10-01-22, 10:50
She has to get her phone started again and I haven't texted her back, delay till tomorrow, she sent me a text. I'm going soon just don't know when, it's creating a little anxiety on her part. Hopefully she needs the money and makes more service available on day one.Sounds like a lot of red flags on this one, Benz. Weird she would go through all the trouble of creating such a detailed ad then not be able to follow through for several various reasons.

Benz1
10-01-22, 13:13
Sounds like a lot of red flags on this one, Benz. Weird she would go through all the trouble of creating such a detailed ad then not be able to follow through for several various reasons.I'm trying it her way now, sent her a message to set an appointment next week and No response so far.

Zigster42
10-01-22, 13:33
I finally had time to make it back out to LA Spa today and finally have succeeded in getting what I wanted thanks to the advice I was given many moons ago. Now for the experience. I was greeted at the door and asked for an hr. Mostly because I wanted time to relax and the lady who's name I didn't get led me to the room. Offered a shower and accepted. Really enjoyed that. Afterward I was brought back to the room, worked through the massage until she finally asked the question. Told her everything and quoted $ . 4 which I thought was a bit high but I said screw it and agreed (I know, shame on me) Nice naturals with a bit older face with tons of makeup on and wore a short dress. We did our thing and I left happily satisfied. I'll likely repeat but now that I have a bit of practice I may end up visiting other locations before hand.

Hoping this helps add to the community and encourages some other newbies to try it out too. Sorry it took so long for me to follow up but I've been having a very busy several months.

Zig.

NoseJelly
10-01-22, 21:01
No mas dinero / dólares por Tui Na or the Blessings Chain or any business owned by Mamasan Michelle, after 10 or so years of patronage!

Texted Joy at Tui Na for a 1 hour massage tonight. She says it's super slow, so come on in. I get there and the usual fun time begins. 5 minutes in, the door ding dong goes off and some dude says he has an appointment! Joy tells him she's busy and come back in an hour. Dude leaves and calls Mamasan Michelle and complains. Instead of apologizing for double booking him, she starts calling Joy until she finally answers her cell. Michelle tells Joy to short my 1 hour massage and take care of the dude! Now Michelle has all of her girls scared shitless that if they don't jump, when she snaps her fingers, theyll get fired. This is why most of her girls won't do a hand on cock HJ, but will let you DIY it. They're scared of her. So after Joy finishes a great HJ on me she confesses that she has to short me per Mamasan. She apologizes a dozen times and says she'll give me extra time next time. Again the door ding dongs and the dude comes in. So I get dressed and hand Joy a shorted tip. She looks bummed but says she understands. I tell her to let Michelle know I won't be coming back unless it's a freebie! Joy hugs me and says sorry again and I leave. I plan on texting Michelle tomorrow to let her know I'm cutting her off. We'll she what she has to say.

This is classic AMP shenanigans. When business is down, raise prices and short the customers. It's no surprise to me, but just a friendly warning to anyone that is considering the local AMP scene. Luckily there's a lot of competition on the AMP front! Too bad for Joy. She's a sweetheart! Oh Well.

NJ.

Member #6286
10-01-22, 21:57
I finally had time to make it back out to LA Spa today and finally have succeeded in getting what I wanted thanks to the advice I was given many moons ago. Now for the experience. I was greeted at the door and asked for an hr. Mostly because I wanted time to relax and the lady who's name I didn't get led me to the room. Offered a shower and accepted. Really enjoyed that. Afterward I was brought back to the room, worked through the massage until she finally asked the question. Told her everything and quoted $ . 4 which I thought was a bit high but I said screw it and agreed (I know, shame on me) Nice naturals with a bit older face with tons of makeup on and wore a short dress. We did our thing and I left happily satisfied. I'll likely repeat but now that I have a bit of practice I may end up visiting other locations before hand.

Hoping this helps add to the community and encourages some other newbies to try it out too. Sorry it took so long for me to follow up but I've been having a very busy several months.

Zig.Sorry if I misinterpreted, but you paid 4 bills at an AMP with an old lady for FS? God I hope I got that wrong because that is insanely high. Come to Chicago and you'll have a 10, young, for that fee.

Member #6286
10-01-22, 22:02
She's advertising on stg but I searched and no reviews. Pics look slim and hot and young lots of ink. Anyone experience of her?So I almost booked today since I got no intel. But she said she's in Cascade area and I was a little far. So we texted and then she sent me her pic. Well, it didn't match the ad even tho she said that's her. So I reversed searched and found it to be a generic pic on Pinterest. Her pic looks real but not the same girl. And not knowing which spa is in Cascade, I opted out. BTW, the pic she sent of herself is rather attractive also. So if one of you want to TOFTT go ahead and try. I'm not here long enough to waste time. She goes by Ally on stg, slim inked girl, nice cleavage pic, etc.

Zigster42
10-01-22, 22:31
Sorry if I misinterpreted, but you paid 4 bills at an AMP with an old lady for FS? God I hope I got that wrong because that is insanely high. Come to Chicago and you'll have a 10, young, for that fee.LOL No, I didn't pay that much. I'd have just left if it was even remotely that high. I said older looking face but really she just looked like she was in her 40's to me, hence why I was reluctant to even pay what I did. For clarity, it was under 2 bennies.

Also, I may have to check out what you're talking about in Chicago some time in the near future.

Sparty On 1234
10-02-22, 08:06
Hello all!

New here and had a question.

Going to be in GR in a couple of weeks and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on where to go. Looking for a provider that does BBBJCIM in their massage. I've heard Asian Ivy is a good place but haven't seen anything about them providing this service. I've also read through the forum a bit and saw some very high recommendations for Jezebel. Any recommendations are appreciated!Check out Saisha at Royal Touch. Hot young Latina with an amazing mouth. Get her in a 69 and if she likes young tongue her mouth will get you off quickly. Jezebel is great too but her mouth does not compare to Saisha's.

LandRover20
10-02-22, 10:33
I finally had time to make it back out to LA Spa today and finally have succeeded in getting what I wanted thanks to the advice I was given many moons ago. Now for the experience. I was greeted at the door and asked for an hr. Mostly because I wanted time to relax and the lady who's name I didn't get led me to the room. Offered a shower and accepted. Really enjoyed that. Afterward I was brought back to the room, worked through the massage until she finally asked the question. Told her everything and quoted $ . 4 which I thought was a bit high but I said screw it and agreed (I know, shame on me) Nice naturals with a bit older face with tons of makeup on and wore a short dress. We did our thing and I left happily satisfied. I'll likely repeat but now that I have a bit of practice I may end up visiting other locations before hand.

Hoping this helps add to the community and encourages some other newbies to try it out too. Sorry it took so long for me to follow up but I've been having a very busy several months.

Zig.Was it a stand up shower and did she join? Is the place relatively clean? I see a lot of not so great reviews for this place in the Lansing forum. Feel free to PM me.

FastHustler
10-02-22, 12:42
So I decided to try them out since I read a favorable review and it was closer to me today. Wish I drove the extra 15 minutes to Relax I've never had a bad time or tip issues. Anyways I got June and 5 min in she is asking what I want after just doing a soft tickeling massage. She was hit by the ugly stick so I just wanted a standard finish. She says it's 80 I said I have 60 she says we'll we will just do a hh then. I say fine whatever. I should have just left but I was craving a massage. Lesson learned I will never repeat waste of money! They are overpriced for what you get. For that price I could have went to bbu.

Gene2
10-03-22, 06:40
Perhaps the most common complaint I hear is the difficulty some of you have in being able to schedule Hunter and the other ladies from the Den. Please bear in mind each of these incredible young women are highly desired by many of us, and all of them have very limited appointment openings. Supply and demand. So there is scarcity. Patience is vital, but oh so worth it.

Today would seem to be your lucky day if you're looking to schedule with Hunter. Here is her most recent stg post.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter--new-number-monday-sch/299498252989

If you are new to the Den, text. Don't call. Tell her your name and approximate age. Let her know what you'd like. Let her know you are not affiliated with LE. Make her comfortable that you are neither creepy nor a policeman. But reaching out today is a window of opportunity for you.

Enjoy.

G2.

Mr Cruzer
10-03-22, 11:06
So I decided to try them out since I read a favorable review and it was closer to me today. Wish I drove the extra 15 minutes to Relax I've never had a bad time or tip issues. Anyways I got June and 5 min in she is asking what I want after just doing a soft tickeling massage. She was hit by the ugly stick so I just wanted a standard finish. She says it's 80 I said I have 60 she says we'll we will just do a hh then. I say fine whatever. I should have just left but I was craving a massage. Lesson learned I will never repeat waste of money! They are overpriced for what you get. For that price I could have went to bbu.Don't know why, but I was quoted $30 for half hour. Asked her twice, and she repeated $30. I think I had the same gal, middle aged Asian with avg figure. My MS was actually pretty good, and ended with a decent HE. My impression was this would be a good local favorite, as its nothing fancy, but has all the basics, including decent menu. I tipped 40, so overall I thought it was a pretty good bargain.

Blackfire
10-03-22, 13:40
Perhaps the most common complaint I hear is the difficulty some of you have in being able to schedule Hunter and the other ladies from the Den. Please bear in mind each of these incredible young women are highly desired by many of us, and all of them have very limited appointment openings. Supply and demand. So there is scarcity. Patience is vital, but oh so worth it.

Today would seem to be your lucky day if you're looking to schedule with Hunter. Here is her most recent stg post.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter--new-number-monday-sch/299498252989

If you are new to the Den, text. Don't call. Tell her your name and approximate age. Let her know what you'd like. Let her know you are not affiliated with LE. Make her comfortable that you are neither creepy nor a policeman. But reaching out today is a window of opportunity for you.Curious, are you the marketing arm for the Hunter now? In the last couple of weeks there's probably a dozen similar posts from you for either Hunter, Lauren, or Cassidy. Not even disguised as reviews. At least when BBU was doing extensive marketing, they used "fake" or smitten Johns to write reviews, you aren't even attempting to hide the fact that you are advertising? See how well that turned out for them! I'm quite frankly surprised Hunter would want this type of exposure in the current hyper LE concerns environment.

StillSeek BJ
10-03-22, 13:53
Perhaps the most common complaint I hear is the difficulty some of you have in being able to schedule Hunter and the other ladies from the Den. Please bear in mind each of these incredible young women are highly desired by many of us, and all of them have very limited appointment openings. Supply and demand. So there is scarcity. Patience is vital, but oh so worth it.

Today would seem to be your lucky day if you're looking to schedule with Hunter. Here is her most recent stg post.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter--new-number-monday-sch/299498252989

If you are new to the Den, text. Don't call. Tell her your name and approximate age. Let her know what you'd like. Let her know you are not affiliated with LE. Make her comfortable that you are neither creepy nor a policeman. But reaching out today is a window of opportunity for you..I have seen their ads and I am intrigued. But is there a secret handshake? Password LOL. I have never seen anyone there. I understand screening but I will not give up personal info or a CC.

Thank you.

StillSeek BJ
10-03-22, 14:05
I had a chance to stop recently in the daytime. I found the place to be very clean and cozy. I got to see Saisha. I was very happy with her skills and her appearance. She is short but has a nice body front and back. Very easy to get along with and left with a smile. I will recommend for anyone not looking for FS. I will definitely repeat visit myself. She introduced me to an older Asian Lady she does 4 hands with but I was already spent $$ and otherwise. Here is her most recent add. https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/-saisha-bab--the-unicorn--habl/898781073056.

They have a shower available for before and massage which could be a very good deal for those who need to go home not smelling like massage oil.

Gene2
10-03-22, 15:50
Sorry if I misinterpreted, but you paid 4 bills at an AMP with an old lady for FS? God I hope I got that wrong because that is insanely high. Come to Chicago and you'll have a 10, young, for that fee.Yeah. Prior poster was using the method that is meant to confuse law enforcement (doesn't work) and enlighten mongers (doesn't work). So when he says " 4" that's supposed to mean $140. For his tip for FS.

Public service announcement: Just post the amount in regular US currency.

Simplify.

G2.

Randingo
10-03-22, 16:03
Check out Saisha at Royal Touch. Hot young Latina with an amazing mouth. Get her in a 69 and if she likes young tongue her mouth will get you off quickly. Jezebel is great too but her mouth does not compare to Saisha's.I just saw saisha the other day and when I asked if she would give me a BJ she turned away and used her hands while bobbing her head to try to make it look like she was. I told her she's not fooling me with that and she kind of laughed and said what do you mean. I asked her if she would actually suck it and she said no she doesn't do that. Maybe she actually does for you, but she didn't for me. So either YMMV or you're getting fooled into paying BJ price for a HJ. I hope it's the former.

Gene2
10-03-22, 16:48
I have seen their ads and I am intrigued. But is there a secret handshake? Password LOL. I have never seen anyone there. I understand screening but I will not give up personal info or a CC.

Thank you.Hey, thanks for leaving a valid response. We should all encourage more posting and especially reviews and suggestions here. I believe one of the bylaws prohibits trying to discourage posting. So your honest observation is a welcome departure from some (poster just prior to your post).

It is tough to get in. These ladies are incredible. Hunter. Lauren. Cassidy James. Phoenix. Low volume coupled with high quality. Some non contributors here would rather that I didn't provide reviews, suggestions, observations about the good quality (so their popularity is diminished and he can always get an appointment). But I believe the community here needs to know. So I share.

Best approach is to text Hunter (or the other ladies: Lauren, Phoenix, Cassidy James) during the time one of their posts on Skip The Games (STG) are active. State the name you wish to use along with your approximate age. Tell them enough about you so they can verify you or be comfortable with who you claim to be (USA member, other provider referrals, screening through TER, etc). Then they can feel secure you are not with law enforcement and are not seeking to entrap them. There's been a lot written on other board locations that delineate the things law enforcement cannot do to entrap providers. That sort of research would do all of us a benefit.

Hope that helps. If you have success, please leave a review and other suggestions certain to please most of us here, but perhaps annoy the peanut gallery (obfuscating) in plain sight.

Research.

G2.

Tommey
10-03-22, 18:26
Yeah. Prior poster was using the method that is meant to confuse law enforcement (doesn't work) and enlighten mongers (doesn't work). So when he says " 4" that's supposed to mean $140. For his tip for FS.

Public service announcement: Just post the amount in regular US currency.

Simplify.

G2.I find it amusing how some users will employ code words and such, apparently in an attempt to avoid self incrimination. This chaotic description of money paid is a perfect example. Apparently when one writes, "I paid $ . 40", that is supposed to mean they paid $140, and not 40 cents. Others will write "I paid $$" to mean they paid $200.

Another approach is to begin a review by explaining that the member dreamed about a visit with so and so. And then the guy will go on the detail specifically what he did, or I guess dreamed about doing, often including a link to the woman's ad and descriptions of parts of her body not shown, or actions not described in the ad.

There are a number of other odd codes employed. Might be interesting to catalog those somewhere, in this thread or elsewhere in the Grand Rapids forums. Chime in with other examples, or link if there already is a thesaurus of these elsewhere.

While I don't write this to criticize, I honestly and seriously doubt there is any protective merit to making simple concepts opaque.

Be safe out there guys. But more importantly, have fun!

Swcdt
10-03-22, 19:55
Curious, are you the marketing arm for the Hunter now? In the last couple of weeks there's probably a dozen similar posts from you for either Hunter, Lauren, or Cassidy. Not even disguised as reviews. At least when BBU was doing extensive marketing, they used "fake" or smitten Johns to write reviews, you aren't even attempting to hide the fact that you are advertising? See how well that turned out for them! I'm quite frankly surprised Hunter would want this type of exposure in the current hyper LE concerns environment.I am serious wondering the same thing. He promotes these girls, gives out their schedules and availabilities as if we can't see the adds ourselves. Kinda seems like something a pimp would do. I'm not trying to bash anyone. But I am genuinely curious if theres some kind of monetary kick back to go along with all this pushing of a few girls.

Gene2
10-03-22, 20:44
I am serious wondering the same thing. He promotes these girls, gives out their schedules and availabilities as if we can't see the adds ourselves. Kinda seems like something a pimp would do. I'm not trying to bash anyone. But I am genuinely curious if theres some kind of monetary kick back to go along with all this pushing of a few girls.Swcdt. I appreciate your valid question. You, unlike some other posters, actually leave reviews and don't just simply troll those of us who do post reviews.

I can assure you I have no financial gain by reviewing or promoting my favorites. Do I think others get freebies or discounts for their positive reviews and promotions? Perhaps. I just don't operate that way. I was offered some discounts by one sweet provider after my positive review resulted in her getting a lot more clients. I declined. I deeply appreciate what good providers do for me and I am not about to seek a discount for simply typing a few words in her behalf. I actually pay more than most, not less. You can read my posts and I routinely sing the praises of several providers, but most of all, Lauren. Feel free to schedule her and ask if I've ever not paid full price plus a tip. Plus an occasional bottle of cognac. I thoroughly enjoy my time with these ladies. And I know a lot of members here struggle to find a way into the hunters den. I get at least three PMs a week asking for advice on how to see these great ladies. So if I can post a suggested way to use Hunter as the gatekeeper to get into this best in class salon, I'm willing to do that.

Hunter appreciated it. And several members here have as well. Am I your typical USA member? No. I enjoy to illustrate the experience with word pictures. And I enjoy giving boosts to our really good providers here. Several posters have agreed saying they go nowhere else other than hunters den right now. Are other members happy I post differently than typical? Depends on who you ask. Most would say "yes" but the original poster you quoted would not. Why? I have no idea.

G2.

Mike Yepthatsm
10-03-22, 20:45
My favorite is when someone says they paid three Barrys for an hr massage meaning they paid three 20 dollar bills since Barry Sanders wore the number 20.


I find it amusing how some users will employ code words and such, apparently in an attempt to avoid self incrimination. This chaotic description of money paid is a perfect example. Apparently when one writes, "I paid $ . 40", that is supposed to mean they paid $140, and not 40 cents. Others will write "I paid $$" to mean they paid $200.

Another approach is to begin a review by explaining that the member dreamed about a visit with so and so. And then the guy will go on the detail specifically what he did, or I guess dreamed about doing, often including a link to the woman's ad and descriptions of parts of her body not shown, or actions not described in the ad.

There are a number of other odd codes employed. Might be interesting to catalog those somewhere, in this thread or elsewhere in the Grand Rapids forums. Chime in with other examples, or link if there already is a thesaurus of these elsewhere.

While I don't write this to criticize, I honestly and seriously doubt there is any protective merit to making simple concepts opaque.

Be safe out there guys. But more importantly, have fun!

NoseJelly
10-03-22, 21:47
Check out the Forum Abbreviations page and you'll find that codes for Mongering are fairly universal. Just a few variations from Forum to Forum.

3 Barrys is a classic and no doubt a Michigan original.

DjBiker
10-03-22, 21:54
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Tommey
10-03-22, 23:16
Check out the Forum Abbreviations page and you'll find that codes for Mongering are fairly universal. Just a few variations from Forum to Forum.

3 Barrys is a classic and no doubt a Michigan original.Thanks NJ. In case others are curious, here's the link for that page: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_wsgforum_01#faq_faq_terms.

By the by, I didn't notice anything on there about dreaming or garbling dollar amounts. I did learn a new phrase though. I'm going to ask for a half and half next time I'm out.

Moonglow913
10-04-22, 09:04
I find it amusing how some users will employ code words and such, apparently in an attempt to avoid self incrimination. This chaotic description of money paid is a perfect example. Apparently when one writes, "I paid $ . 40", that is supposed to mean they paid $140, and not 40 cents. Others will write "I paid $$" to mean they paid $200.

Another approach is to begin a review by explaining that the member dreamed about a visit with so and so. And then the guy will go on the detail specifically what he did, or I guess dreamed about doing, often including a link to the woman's ad and descriptions of parts of her body not shown, or actions not described in the ad.

There are a number of other odd codes employed. Might be interesting to catalog those somewhere, in this thread or elsewhere in the Grand Rapids forums. Chime in with other examples, or link if there already is a thesaurus of these elsewhere.

While I don't write this to criticize, I honestly and seriously doubt there is any protective merit to making simple concepts opaque.

Be safe out there guys. But more importantly, have fun!I have long railed against the coded and especially the use of "I had a dream". Really WTF? The other one you see is, "I am asking for a friend" or "a friend told me. ".

Benz1
10-04-22, 09:17
Thanks NJ. In case others are curious, here's the link for that page: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_wsgforum_01#faq_faq_terms.

By the by, I didn't notice anything on there about dreaming or garbling dollar amounts. I did learn a new phrase though. I'm going to ask for a half and half next time I'm out.Garbled dollar amounts can be found here click the abbreviation button on the top toolbar.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations

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10-04-22, 09:27
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Benz1
10-04-22, 09:52
Setting up a time to see her and she can't talk, text only because she hasn't paid her bill.
I spoke to her last week and after hearing her voicemail today, the tone of her voice indicates to me she is not Caucasian.
Her losing cell service tells me she needs the money and more will likely be offered.

More updates tomorrow.


Had a very good experience with Tosha. I went in with a positive attitude, which helped: she called 15 minutes ahead of my scheduled time and told me she was running 1/2 hour behind, and would I mind waiting; her place is in a very old, somewhat rundown trailer park off of Plainfield, behind Fields Fabrics and Meijers. Also during the MS she used a lot of warm oil, which did not wipe off very well, and I left still feeling kind of oily.

She greeted me warmly, and explained the routine. She's very personable, energetic, and communication was excellent throughout the session. She is short and stocky with kind of a big butt, but build very solid, with fantastic huge boobs (said she was triple G, is there even is such a size?) but are very firm. I got nude, she stayed covered the whole time. MS very good, moved around and did not stay in one area forever, and listened to my preferences. Some very nice teasing (she referred it as her Signature Move) before the flip. Did some nice front massage.

When she stated the end of the session, I asked about finishing Mr Happy. She stated I was free to finish myself at any time. I said it would be more fun if she did it; she then said depends, basically nicely hinting about tip. Told her I always tip. She straddled me, did some light blowing, and asked how I would like the ending done. We agreed on a HJ, which was one of best I have ever received, ever.

I will repeat. She is somewhat selective and does some screening, as she uses her residence. She does watch the time (although we went over an hour), but never mentions how much to tip. The menu is good, depends on your budget and what program you select. 50/70.Glad to hear you had a great time. Thank you MrCruzer for taking one for the team.

Her Craig's list ad is down / expired. I had an appointment this morning and cancelled after she sent me the address. I'm not knocking anyone who lives in a trailer but I don't prefer to get my services in a trailer park. That's why I do a lot of car dates. Since it is a private residence, I like to research who might be in the home. Current resident is listed as Daniel and past resident Tasha(real name?). With the past resident having the same name, I assume it's true. I told her I think I'll pass based on the address(change) which was originally pinned in the business district of E. Beltline and Plainfield (in her Craig's list ad).

I think this is red flag number 3 for me.

I'm sure she's a nice person with reasonable rates but not for me. I think she would be better off in a salon like Wonder, screen them there and when a client wants more meet them in her home. I think too much traffic in a trailer park will be very noticeable, likely ending soon due to nosey neighbors.

She has texted snarky replies due to my cancellation. I get it and forgive her.
Hopefully MrCruzer can advise her not to use her real name when communicating with mongers.
She wanted me to step out of my vehicle and stretch my legs while waiting for her.

NoseJelly
10-04-22, 14:01
Garbled dollar amounts can be found here click the abbreviation button on the top toolbar.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=AbbreviationsThe link Benz posted, the Forum Abbreviations, is what I was referring to. The other link is the Forum FAQ.

Benz1
10-04-22, 15:41
MS she used a lot of warm oil, which did not wipe

When she stated the end of the session, I asked about finishing Mr Happy. She stated I was free to finish myself at any time. I said it would be more fun if she did it; she then said depends, basically nicely hinting about tip. Told her I always tip. She straddled me, did some light blowing, and asked how I would like the ending done. We agreed on a HJ, which was one of best I have ever received, ever.

I will repeat.Actually sounds good to me, hopefully she will take some advice and apply at Wonder, 5 star and Serenity.

She informed me that her cuddle session would create an erection and she was happy to watch me finish it myself if I wanted it done.

Based on her comments to me on the phone, I was very unsure of where the appointment would end up, HE and location were not clear. Was she waiting for dick in hand to up charge a HE?
So I prepared for my Tuesday Cuddle appointment on Monday by seeing Breezii for an amazing love making session including DATY, she tasted divine
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/breezii/299072978586
Her love making definitely tamped down any anxious feeling about whether I'm getting HE with cuddles or not. Cuddle session sounded amazing, I received a confirmation message this morning and cancelled due to her location. (Mobil Home Park).

I wasn't sure of the ending so I scheduled a BBBJ with Jenna immediately after the cuddle session was due to end.

Jenna has never cancelled on me so I decided to keep my appointment with her. Jenna never spills a drop, I will repeat! https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/616-591-1616jenna/024860107502.

Like to thank my go to girls for helping me get a good prostate report from the doctor yesterday.
Ashley the expert, Breezii is willing, Jenna said she will if she's in the mood (buzzed). MrCruzer should get his new girl on board with full body massage inside and out.

RGonzo
10-04-22, 16:02
I was hoping the shortage of appointments was a rarity and not the norm. It's happened a couple of times now, haven't been back nor answered her text messages since the last time.


No mas dinero / dlares por Tui Na or the Blessings Chain or any business owned by Mamasan Michelle, after 10 or so years of patronage!

Texted Joy at Tui Na for a 1 hour massage tonight. She says it's super slow, so come on in. I get there and the usual fun time begins. 5 minutes in, the door ding dong goes off and some dude says he has an appointment! Joy tells him she's busy and come back in an hour. Dude leaves and calls Mamasan Michelle and complains. Instead of apologizing for double booking him, she starts calling Joy until she finally answers her cell. Michelle tells Joy to short my 1 hour massage and take care of the dude! Now Michelle has all of her girls scared shitless that if they don't jump, when she snaps her fingers, theyll get fired. This is why most of her girls won't do a hand on cock HJ, but will let you DIY it. They're scared of her. So after Joy finishes a great HJ on me she confesses that she has to short me per Mamasan. She apologizes a dozen times and says she'll give me extra time next time. Again the door ding dongs and the dude comes in. So I get dressed and hand Joy a shorted tip. She looks bummed but says she understands. I tell her to let Michelle know I won't be coming back unless it's a freebie! Joy hugs me and says sorry again and I leave. I plan on texting Michelle tomorrow to let her know I'm cutting her off. We'll she what she has to say.

This is classic AMP shenanigans. When business is down, raise prices and short the customers. It's no surprise to me, but just a friendly warning to anyone that is considering the local AMP scene. Luckily there's a lot of competition on the AMP front! Too bad for Joy. She's a sweetheart! Oh Well.

NJ.

NoseJelly
10-04-22, 16:18
I was hoping the shortage of appointments was a rarity and not the norm. It's happened a couple of times now, haven't been back nor answered her text messages since the last time.No reply from text to Mamasan about making up the time shorting, so I'm not repeating with Joy or any other place Michelle owns.

Swcdt
10-04-22, 17:10
No reply from text to Mamasan about making up the time shorting, so I'm not repeating with Joy or any other place Michelle owns.What other places does she own? I'll be sure to avoid them too.

Zigster42
10-04-22, 17:13
Was it a stand up shower and did she join? Is the place relatively clean? I see a lot of not so great reviews for this place in the Lansing forum. Feel free to PM me.Sorry for the delayed response.

It was a table shower. All in all it was pretty clean but the light is kept pretty low for the most part so it's not impossible that I missed something. There weren't any unpleasant smells at the very least.

Also, I apologize to anyone I riled up using the abbreviation. I'm a bit of an older member and still use the abbreviations out of habit, not as a means to confuse or deceive. Meant no harm.

NoseJelly
10-04-22, 19:25
What other places does she own? I'll be sure to avoid them too.Any that are part of the Blessings chain. Fuller Ave, Plainfield Ave, Comstock Park, etc. 2 or 3 more that I can't remember. Maybe someone else can chime in.

RGonzo
10-04-22, 20:51
I suspect Oriental massage on 28th Street near Burlingame, the place on 28th between Division and Madison, was well as Jenison are owned by Blessings as well.


Any that are part of the Blessings chain. Fuller Ave, Plainfield Ave, Comstock Park, etc. 2 or 3 more that I can't remember. Maybe someone else can chime in.

Member #6286
10-04-22, 21:29
Milan, the highly rated massage provider, sent me a few photos. I guess I should share.

Better in person.

Enjoy.

G2.She's hot. Was able to schedule me quickly then told me where the location is and I was like where the fuck is that? It's really far down there is you are from North or east or west of GR. I mean that in terms of I don't like to drive an hour to get serviced. But now with this photo, I have to admit that I may have to try and find a way down there.

NoseJelly
10-04-22, 21:47
I suspect Oriental massage on 28th Street near Burlingame, the place on 28th between Division and Madison, was well as Jenison are owned by Blessings as well.I think that's right. She buys up as many as she can.

ArborWorks
10-05-22, 05:36
I'm taking a trip up to Boyne city this weekend. I could use a little help finding something up that way for massage. Any suggestions? I tried stg but not many options. Thanks in advance.

LandRover20
10-05-22, 11:19
Glad to hear you had a great time. Thank you MrCruzer for taking one for the team.

Her Craig's list ad is down / expired. I had an appointment this morning and cancelled after she sent me the address. I'm not knocking anyone who lives in a trailer but I don't prefer to get my services in a trailer park. That's why I do a lot of car dates. Since it is a private residence, I like to research who might be in the home. Current resident is listed as Daniel and past resident Tasha(real name?). With the past resident having the same name, I assume it's true. I told her I think I'll pass based on the address(change) which was originally pinned in the business district of E. Beltline and Plainfield (in her Craig's list ad).

I think this is red flag number 3 for me.

I'm sure she's a nice person with reasonable rates but not for me. I think she would be better off in a salon like Wonder, screen them there and when a client wants more meet them in her home. I think too much traffic in a trailer park will be very noticeable, likely ending soon due to nosey neighbors.

She has texted snarky replies due to my cancellation. I get it and forgive her.
Hopefully MrCruzer can advise her not to use her real name when communicating with mongers.
She wanted me to step out of my vehicle and stretch my legs while waiting for her.Thanks to both Cruzer and Benz for the detailed recon. I'll probably pass for now and stick to my known entities.

CandidGuy35
10-05-22, 12:32
Probably should have took Atrain advice and not gone there but thought new ownership why not. Only one slim Chinese women there probably about mid to late 50's. The old owner and worker are now gone. Very light touch massage and probably shorted me on time too. Appears to be more available but not my thing.

Swcdt
10-05-22, 16:26
Any that are part of the Blessings chain. Fuller Ave, Plainfield Ave, Comstock Park, etc. 2 or 3 more that I can't remember. Maybe someone else can chime in.Well there is a new place on Plainfield called moon moon massage. It took me a few visits to get any extras. Diy was acceptable for a couple times but on my 4th visit I was able to get an HJ and some otc roaming. The massage is great. And no time shorting. Haven't been able to get them out of their clothes yet but maybe another visit or 2 would help. 1 hr is 65, I tiped 35 and she was very happy. I don't think this is part of the blessings chain. Its a very clean and well lit establishment.

LandRover20
10-05-22, 17:06
Milan, the highly rated massage provider, sent me a few photos. I guess I should share.

Better in person.

Enjoy.

G2.I keep coming back to this picture a lot. A LOT.

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10-06-22, 09:29
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Mongerlian
10-06-22, 12:17
Probably should have took Atrain advice and not gone there but thought new ownership why not. Only one slim Chinese women there probably about mid to late 50's. The old owner and worker are now gone. Very light touch massage and probably shorted me on time too. Appears to be more available but not my thing.Real massage used to be great for me. Had the same woman almost every week. Great massage, good HE, more massage after HE which I love. I was a very repeat customer, like I said, almost weekly. That was because the rate was good, 60/40. As I visited more I got to suck her nipples, even got to fiv. Couple times even awkwardly licked (awkward because the pants weren't off, just down LOL) and always asked if okay, always got the affirmative. Then, one day, I've got her tit in my mouth and my fingers in her, and she gives me the "you do that I get more tip. " I hate mid action negotiations, it ruins the mood completely. I agreed to an extra Jackson to make it 60/60, finished up, and never went back. She's not hot enough to command simp prices, and while 60/60 isn't bad either, it's the principle of the thing. She lost a solid repeat customer and several hundred bucks over a 20.

RGonzo
10-06-22, 12:50
I used to get an okay, not great BJ there on occasion as well.


Real massage used to be great for me. Had the same woman almost every week. Great massage, good HE, more massage after HE which I love. I was a very customer, like I said, almost weekly. That was because the rate was good, 60/40. As I visited more I got to suck her nipples, even got to fiv. Couple times even awkwardly licked (awkward because the pants weren't off, just down LOL) and always asked if okay, always got the affirmative. Then, one day, I've got her tit in my mouth and my fingers in her, and she gives me the "you do that I get more tip. " I hate mid action negotiations, it ruins the mood completely. I agreed to an extra Jackson to make it 60/60, finished up, and never went back. She's not hot enough to command simp prices, and while 60/60 isn't bad either, it's the principle of the thing. She lost a solid repeat customer and several hundred bucks over a 20.

Sparty On 1234
10-06-22, 13:07
Ok. Here's another one.

Salivate.

G2.Thanks for sharing G2! Milan is indeed quite hot and very nice. Have seen her several times and always have a great experience. Treat her nice and she will deliver the goods. Enjoy while you can.

SpazzBoy78
10-06-22, 13:13
https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/grand-rapids-kings-lounge-mens-haircuts/7537323764.html

Seen this ad. Says haircut and massage for men.

The pics however suggest more.

AustinRamos1
10-06-22, 20:23
I'm on hiatus from the escort hobby but decided to partially break my fast for a massage with this provider. I have reviewed her in the past and as previously stated, I would only see her again if the boyfriend were out of the picture. This message has been echoed by other members. Well, from our conversation before the meet and during, boyfriend is gone. Forcible removed by police at her request and I heard they have contact but he no longer works for her. Very attractive woman. She's a tall blonde with a very nice body and sweet personality. She has a nice figure and definitely loves her sexy outfits.

She greeted me at the door of her private incall and we caught up over a lovely couple of craft cocktails. She's definitely a much better mixologist than I am. After a few drinks, we started the massage. She was actually very professional and really seemed to know what she was doing on my shoulders and back. The scented oils and tequila cocktails coupled with her incredible body sliding on top of me though was simply enticing. Especially on the flip! I felt very relaxed and comfortable. Also, stimulated! Haha. Honestly, very attractive woman. I'm not much for massage, hence my dearth of reports here, but I am actually willing to pay a little extra for the focus and attention this girl brings. Would love to see her again so long as the overbearing boyfriend remains out of the picture. I like to drink and I like attractive women. With a slight edge to blondes, she satisfies both. Anyway, I think she's only taking regulars and referrals. Below is the most recent ad I could find.

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/private-studio-professional-classy-iso-same-in-client/49262683

Sparty On 1234
10-07-22, 07:48
I'm on hiatus from the escort hobby but decided to partially break my fast for a massage with this provider. I have reviewed her in the past and as previously stated, I would only see her again if the boyfriend were out of the picture. This message has been echoed by other members. Well, from our conversation before the meet and during, boyfriend is gone. Forcible removed by police at her request and I heard they have contact but he no longer works for her. Very attractive woman. She's a tall blonde with a very nice body and sweet personality. She has a nice figure and definitely loves her sexy outfits.

She greeted me at the door of her private incall and we caught up over a lovely couple of craft cocktails. She's definitely a much better mixologist than I am. After a few drinks, we started the massage. She was actually very professional and really seemed to know what she was doing on my shoulders and back. The scented oils and tequila cocktails coupled with her incredible body sliding on top of me though was simply enticing. Especially on the flip! I felt very relaxed and comfortable. Also, stimulated! Haha. Honestly, very attractive woman. I'm not much for massage, hence my dearth of reports here, but I am actually willing to pay a little extra for the focus and attention this girl brings. Would love to see her again so long as the overbearing boyfriend remains out of the picture. I like to drink and I like attractive women. With a slight edge to blondes, she satisfies both. Anyway, I think she's only taking regulars and referrals. Below is the most recent ad I could find.

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/private-studio-professional-classy-iso-same-in-client/49262683I've wondered about this one. Hot body. What extras were included? BBBJ, CFS, DATY? What was the cost. Thanks.

DoIt161
10-07-22, 14:36
Hi all,

Has anyone been here? It looks like a newer place and I didn't find any information on it when I searched the forum. I'm pretty simple with what I'm looking for. Good massage with a HE on the flip.

PurpMan61
10-07-22, 15:50
I've wondered about this one. Hot body. What extras were included? BBBJ, CFS, DATY? What was the cost. Thanks.She's been reviewed loads. I saw her while at BBU for her short stint and see seemed odd / out of it. After many reports of her BF hanging around, barging in, getting paranoid I avoided for a while. I did have a session with her at her incall in Walker. Massage was fun, she seemed out of it / not all there but that didn't stop her from doing a body slide and sliding my cock into her mouth. Which was a nice surprise. Decent head, didn't take it all but good technique. Then rode me cowgirl without a cover. She gets into it. Some light kissing, then went to doggy and missionary till bust.

RallyToo
10-07-22, 15:55
https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/grand-rapids-kings-lounge-mens-haircuts/7537323764.html

Seen this ad. Says haircut and massage for men.

The pics however suggest more.Search for Victoria.

RallyToo
10-08-22, 09:19
From those who have visited the Den. How accurate are these pics?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter--new-number-week-sched/466494684943

Sparty On 1234
10-08-22, 09:47
From those who have visited the Den. How accurate are these pics?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter--new-number-week-sched/466494684943Have sampled all the flavors at the Den. Pics are 100% real. They are all hotter in person. Check them out if you can get an appointment. Enjoy!

BassMaster1
10-08-22, 10:25
Have sampled all the flavors at the Den. Pics are 100% real. They are all hotter in person. Check them out if you can get an appointment. Enjoy!I agree I have sampled all them too. Pics are accurate. If your a big tit lover you can't go wrong with any of them. Haven't had a bad time yet. Just wish my schedule aligned better with theirs.

Merlot69
10-08-22, 13:14
I'm on hiatus from the escort hobby but decided to partially break my fast for a massage with this provider. I have reviewed her in the past and as previously stated, I would only see her again if the boyfriend were out of the picture. This message has been echoed by other members. Well, from our conversation before the meet and during, boyfriend is gone. Forcible removed by police at her request and I heard they have contact but he no longer works for her. Very attractive woman. She's a tall blonde with a very nice body and sweet personality. She has a nice figure and definitely loves her sexy outfits.

She greeted me at the door of her private incall and we caught up over a lovely couple of craft cocktails. She's definitely a much better mixologist than I am. After a few drinks, we started the massage. She was actually very professional and really seemed to know what she was doing on my shoulders and back. The scented oils and tequila cocktails coupled with her incredible body sliding on top of me though was simply enticing. Especially on the flip! I felt very relaxed and comfortable. Also, stimulated! Haha. Honestly, very attractive woman. I'm not much for massage, hence my dearth of reports here, but I am actually willing to pay a little extra for the focus and attention this girl brings. Would love to see her again so long as the overbearing boyfriend remains out of the picture. I like to drink and I like attractive women.What was on the menu you can PM me if you like last time I seen her it was restricted but that may have been the bf but the massage was outstanding hopes she comes back.

Bopa1
10-08-22, 14:30
Hey, thanks for leaving a valid response. We should all encourage more posting and especially reviews and suggestions here. I believe one of the bylaws prohibits trying to discourage posting. So your honest observation is a welcome departure from some (poster just prior to your post).

It is tough to get in. These ladies are incredible. Hunter. Lauren. Cassidy James. Phoenix. Low volume coupled with high quality. Some non contributors here would rather that I didn't provide reviews, suggestions, observations about the good quality (so their popularity is diminished and he can always get an appointment). But I believe the community here needs to know. So I share.

Best approach is to text Hunter (or the other ladies: Lauren, Phoenix, Cassidy James) during the time one of their posts on Skip The Games (STG) are active. State the name you wish to use along with your approximate age. Tell them enough about you so they can verify you or be comfortable with who you claim to be (USA member, other provider referrals, screening through TER, etc). Then they can feel secure you are not with law enforcement and are not seeking to entrap them. There's been a lot written on other board locations that delineate the things law enforcement cannot do to entrap providers. That sort of research would do all of us a benefit.Yes but some of the girls ask not to so I of course respect thrr Ed m an don't.

JohnCockToAstn
10-09-22, 10:13
Asked for Grace based on past reports. I think she's mamasan.

Pretty standard AMP experience. A so so massage with light teasing after being guided to it.

Flip was aggressive, but still a little mechanical.

There are better options, but I'd like to see what the bullpen looked like.

Bham07
10-10-22, 09:38
If you like blondes this should grab your attention. Any intel on her? No name, but the pics are worth the click.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/good-morning-sunshine--/329064002218

IronMan416
10-10-22, 10:03
To me, the atmosphere is a big part of the experience. I enjoy the massage. Along with dim lighting, candles, music, etc. Would also prefer a bed setup to a table, if I got to be picky.

What providers are the best at providing this type of experience?

Shawtren
10-10-22, 10:39
Have sampled all the flavors at the Den. Pics are 100% real. They are all hotter in person. Check them out if you can get an appointment. Enjoy!I, too, can conquer that the pics are legit. She has a body that will keep you entertained for hours on end. But don't stop there. Check out all of them there.

Mongerlian
10-10-22, 11:16
Does anyone know if sweetie is still offering release? I noticed she took the "tickle the pickle" line out of her ad.

Benz1
10-10-22, 11:43
Does anyone know if sweetie is still offering release? I noticed she took the "tickle the pickle" line out of her ad.I spoke to her 2 days ago and she confirmed, everything is still the same, just not advertising about extras.

PurpMan61
10-10-22, 12:46
If you like blondes this should grab your attention. Any intel on her? No name, but the pics are worth the click.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/good-morning-sunshine--/329064002218She is not new. But definitely a good one. Spinner body with nice bolt ons.

BoatGuy1
10-10-22, 13:10
That is not Eris. I agree with your description of her but that ad is not her ad.

First picture pops up in a search as a pinterest picture.

She is not new. But definitely a good one. Spinner body with nice bolt ons..

RichardHead57
10-10-22, 13:51
I've seen Sweet Megan twice now. Her location is saf in the Kentwood area and her rate is affordable if you're just looking for a nice he with no strings. Massage has teasing and she expects you to be polite. The flip is good, middle of the road I'd say when compared to others. I did not partake of the BBBJ that she offers, just not my thing. I didn't have any issues with her being rude, but to each is own. If you're looking for safety and cost effectiveness, she hits the mark.

DoIt161
10-10-22, 15:34
I ventured in last weekend without an appointment and drew Victoria. The place is OK, nothing fancy but clean. Paid for 30 minutes and was pointed to my room. Got on the table and waited for 5 minutes. She was very attractive with a nice curvy body that I'm into! However, the massage was pretty poor as she only went through the motions like a robot, but the teasing was nice. I was able to feel around a bit. She asked me to flip 7 minutes in and then started to negotiate. Prices on the menu were really out of line so nothing fun to report there (she did let my hands explore a bit which was fun). The ending was rushed and pretty much stunk. In all, the 30 minute massage lasted 10 minutes. I wouldn't recommend as there are other options out there.

PurpMan61
10-10-22, 16:23
That is not Eris. I agree with your description of her but that ad is not her ad.

First picture pops up in a search as a pinterest picture.
.She told me it was Eris formerly of BBU.

Shawtren
10-10-22, 16:50
She told me it was Eris formerly of BBU.If Britts girls branch out waiting for BBU to re-open, she may lose a bunch.

Swcdt
10-10-22, 17:34
Went back to Panacea and saw Ava last week. Needed a little redemption since my last visit there didn't go so well. She's a super fun girl to hang out with and those massive titties just add to the fun. Nice light touch backside rub with some good teasing. She got comfy without being asked. Flipped over kinda early and finished in about 15 minutes. I said wow that only took 15 minutes, and she asked what I wanted to do next. So I opted to give her a rub. Played with her backside for a bit while we chatted. Then she flipped over and let me play with the Twins. She has a very fun set of Titties to play with. If you've not seen her, you should! There was no mention of tip and I did not push any boundaries with her. 50 for the hhr with 70 tip. Well worth the fun.

Rossm
10-10-22, 20:30
If Britts girls branch out waiting for BBU to re-open, she may lose a bunch.Haven't paid close attention to them lately since they got an alternate site, but are they down for the time being?

Blackfire
10-10-22, 20:50
Haven't paid close attention to them lately since they got an alternate site, but are they down for the time being?I was wondering the same thing. Sounds like shawtren knows. Maybe others too? They closed, or just moved to a downtown location that was earlier reported? Is the LE investigation still ongoing? Does anyone know if anyone has been called in and been questioned, or has it been limited to those that were pulled over after leaving the 36th street establishment? Has there been any arrests?

UtrGuy
10-11-22, 00:23
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/hott-massage-with-ally/577017453458

Toftt on tatted Ally. Not the girl in the pictures but very attractive. Pretty close to her stated age in the ad. 160 flat price. I could tell she's been trained because it was one of the better massages I've had. Got comfortable on the ending. Standard finish. I was very happy and will repeat. The entire experience was very enjoyable and sensual. No FS as stated in the ad. Location was Pacific in Cascade.

RallyToo
10-11-22, 09:09
I was wondering the same thing. Sounds like shawtren knows. Maybe others too? They closed, or just moved to a downtown location that was earlier reported? Is the LE investigation still ongoing? Does anyone know if anyone has been called in and been questioned, or has it been limited to those that were pulled over after leaving the 36th street establishment? Has there been any arrests?Website is still up but schedule is very limited. Mostly Brit with a little Sara and Raven.

Sparty On 1234
10-11-22, 10:40
Website is still up but schedule is very limited. Mostly Brit with a little Sara and Raven.I have been in contact. No information to share.

RGonzo
10-11-22, 11:45
Joy must be lonely, she keeps sending me texts about missing me LOL.


No reply from text to Mamasan about making up the time shorting, so I'm not repeating with Joy or any other place Michelle owns.

Macgazkol
10-11-22, 12:38
Hi. I'm just new to town, after having been active for the last few years in the St Louis area.

For my first adventure here, I met yesterday with the lovely Milan. She's been reviewed many times, and I don't have much to add. But I will affirm that wow, she is good looking. She's also easy to talk to, sweet and personable, and very attentive to the specific needs of this old man.

But the meeting might not have happened. Mongers frequently complain about cash-and-dash girls, but when I texted her, Milan had just had the opposite experience: a monger had received her services and then ran out the door without paying. I was worried that she'd be so upset that she needed not to make the appointment with me. So I really admire her professionalism in setting that trauma aside for the moment, and focusing on her next customer.

In terms of attractiveness, personality, and skill she is definitely first class. The professionalism and personal strength she showed, after getting ripped off, are very impressive. I will definitely see her again.

Sparty On 1234
10-11-22, 15:32
Hi. I'm just new to town, after having been active for the last few years in the St Louis area.

For my first adventure here, I met yesterday with the lovely Milan. She's been reviewed many times, and I don't have much to add. But I will affirm that wow, she is good looking. She's also easy to talk to, sweet and personable, and very attentive to the specific needs of this old man.

But the meeting might not have happened. Mongers frequently complain about cash-and-dash girls, but when I texted her, Milan had just had the opposite experience: a monger had received her services and then ran out the door without paying. I was worried that she'd be so upset that she needed not to make the appointment with me. So I really admire her professionalism in setting that trauma aside for the moment, and focusing on her next customer.

In terms of attractiveness, personality, and skill she is definitely first class. The professionalism and personal strength she showed, after getting ripped off, are very impressive. I will definitely see her again.I agree. Milan is a special provider. Treat her kindly and be generous and she will reward you. She has a very hot slender body and enjoys trying new things. Check her out. PM if you need contact information.

RichardHead57
10-11-22, 15:59
I visited Relax on 28th and drew Ashley. She was attractive by AMP standards. Gave a dry massage with no oil or lotion. Before the flip, she started the tease which was nice. On the flip, she got the lotion out and knew what to do. It was really cool that she didn't ask for a tip. Not long after she started taking care of the bishop, she started the prostate massage. I was not expecting this and was surprised to say the least. I'm just glad her hands were tiny, haha. Left happy. 0.4 for the massage and a 0.6 tip. Will repeat.

AntBz
10-11-22, 16:11
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/see-the-one-and-only-cassidy/265078132014

Seen Cassidy in August after reading review from hanglow. Booked hour. She looks Latina and middle eastern. Got nude at flip. Very good body and soft skin. Get up on table and I finished Russian. $150 including tip. I will repeat. My first review.

RaulJulia
10-11-22, 17:51
Hi. I'm just new to town, after having been active for the last few years in the St Louis area.

For my first adventure here, I met yesterday with the lovely Milan. She's been reviewed many times, and I don't have much to add. But I will affirm that wow, she is good looking. She's also easy to talk to, sweet and personable, and very attentive to the specific needs of this old man.

But the meeting might not have happened. Mongers frequently complain about cash-and-dash girls, but when I texted her, Milan had just had the opposite experience: a monger had received her services and then ran out the door without paying. I was worried that she'd be so upset that she needed not to make the appointment with me. So I really admire her professionalism in setting that trauma aside for the moment, and focusing on her next customer.

In terms of attractiveness, personality, and skill she is definitely first class. The professionalism and personal strength she showed, after getting ripped off, are very impressive. I will definitely see her again.Thanks for the review. I'm glad you got to experience Milan. She really is top notch. I'm really sorry to hear someone did that to her. We all have our different opinions, viewpoints, and experiences on what providers charge. What seems like a lot to some of us is pocket change to others. That's part of the variety of life. But if a monger sets up an appointment, sees a provider, and receives services, he should pay what he owes. This is not right. I know sometimes on the escort side of things, an agreed upon price may change and there may be some disagreement there, but to my knowledge, that's far less common with MPs and not how Milan and most of these ladies work. This type of thing makes life harder for all of us. When we have a good provider, we need to treat her well. I'm really frustrated to hear of something like this happening.

RaulJulia
10-11-22, 18:04
Haven't paid close attention to them lately since they got an alternate site, but are they down for the time being?I just checked all the way out till the 21st (next Friday). As reported, most days it's Britt, Sarah, and / or Raven. Madison had some open appointments listed on one day. No appointments at all shown for this Saturday and a couple of days, only one provider (Britt or Sarah) listed. Not looking great for BBU right now. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but for many of us, it was a nice option. It would be a shame to see these ladies move on to other cities or get out of providing the services we want and need.

Bad Influence
10-11-22, 19:28
Got into town this afternoon and was just looking for a tug before heading to dinner. I originally wanted to see one of Lisa's girls but after that runaround I dropped it. Saw Saishas ad and thought she would fit the bill. Called royal they said she was there, come right over.

When I got there mms said she "ran out, be right back. " I should have bailed to Luxe, but decided to hang out. After about 10 min in walls Hannah with a story about how Saisha is running late and could she take care of me. Ok, fuck it. Said if I wanted to tip it usually starts with an amount equal to the 30 min rate. Ok then.

Oily rub, then the flip and she took off her sweater. Nice rack, but really impersonal and clinical. Good HJ technique while I played with the girls and she talked dirty. Finished, cleaned up and out the door.

Hannah was plain and not someone you'd glance at twice. Nice enough, but not the sexy Latina I was looking for.

You guys work way too fucking hard for pussy. I'm heading to LA, I'll just wait until I get there to look for anything else.

Hockey0999
10-12-22, 10:36
I just checked all the way out till the 21st (next Friday). As reported, most days it's Britt, Sarah, and / or Raven. Madison had some open appointments listed on one day. No appointments at all shown for this Saturday and a couple of days, only one provider (Britt or Sarah) listed. Not looking great for BBU right now. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but for many of us, it was a nice option. It would be a shame to see these ladies move on to other cities or get out of providing the services we want and need.So they have moved to another location? Does anyone know what is going on or happened. Forgive me as I am not as active on this post as I am on the Detroit Section. Where did all of the other girls go? If you feel comfortable PM me that is fine too. Thanks in advance.

OnlyVrx
10-12-22, 12:04
Hey all,

Over the next few weeks I will be visiting GR from Detroit. I was researching some places and providers to visit during my stay and came across this ad. I'd always wanted to experience a milking table and wanted to see if anyone has visited with this provider? Any intel is much appreciated! PM is OK.

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/milking-table-massage-it-off-your-bucket-list/50597739

Also, if anyone has any other suggestions for a good rub and a sold BJ I'd love the intel. I'm interested in parlors / private providers or even strip clubs. From what I'm reading the MP scene in GR is much better compared to Detroit. If anyone is over on this side of the state don't hesitate to reach out and Ill return the favor. Thanks again!

I appreciate your help!

VRx.

Gene2
10-12-22, 16:11
Also, if anyone has any other suggestions for a good rub and a sold BJ I'd love the intel. I'm interested in parlors / private providers or even strip clubs. From what I'm reading the MP scene in GR is much better compared to Detroit. If anyone is over on this side of the state don't hesitate to reach out and Ill return the favor. Thanks again!.I would definitely recommend Phoenix / Nola. She's young and very talented. Being young, she is still learning the nuances of the hobby. So scheduling can be more difficult when planning future days. My best success has come from scheduling her the day I will see her. And I wait to do that until I see she's posted an ad on stg. I had the opportunity to see her on a weekend two weeks ago. It made my day. She's very accommodating and a highlight of your day.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/nola/825697112722

If you need to plan further in advance, then I would wholeheartedly recommend Lauren. She's more seasoned in the hobby and less likely to have to cancel an appointment. She doesn't usually work on weekends and is low volume during the week. So now you have at least two options from the west side of the state. And there are many more over here. You may need to relocate to GR!

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/142033684704

Wonderful choices. Enjoy.

G2.

Cracker55
10-12-22, 18:20
I stopped in at Pacific on 44th today. I had a couple of very mediocre experiences there a little over a year ago, so I stopped going to 44th. A couple of other places couldn't get me in until later, so I gave Pacific another shot. I got Maria, and I am very glad I did. She was friendly and sweet, couple extra lbs, but I'm down with that.

She started with an above average massage, I touched her thigh lightly and she was into it, plenty of light touch and teasing. Massage was not rushed, she took her time.

On the flip she got more comfortable, I asked if she wanted a rub, and she did. Great tits, nice ass, she touched me while I gave her a HE, then we switched back and she took care of the rest.

Great service, friendly personality, $$ total, I definitely recommend her, and will be going back.

OnlyVrx
10-12-22, 18:58
During my 20's I lived in GR for 8 years. Best time of my life. Detroit doesn't even come close (for a lot of reasons). I wish I knew about this hobby back then, I may have never left. Haha! Thanks again for the intel.

VRx.


I would definitely recommend Phoenix / Nola. She's young and very talented. Being young, she is still learning the nuances of the hobby. So scheduling can be more difficult when planning future days. My best success has come from scheduling her the day I will see her. And I wait to do that until I see she's posted an ad on stg. I had the opportunity to see her on a weekend two weeks ago. It made my day. She's very accommodating and a highlight of your day.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/nola/825697112722

If you need to plan further in advance, then I would wholeheartedly recommend Lauren. She's more seasoned in the hobby and less likely to have to cancel an appointment. She doesn't usually work on weekends and is low volume during the week. So now you have at least two options from the west side of the state. And there are many more over here. You may need to relocate to GR!

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/142033684704

Wonderful choices. Enjoy.

G2.

Gene2
10-13-22, 07:03
I had to leave town for work again. But before leaving I decided to treat myself with a visit to Lauren. Reached out and texted her when I saw her ad post about 9:00 am on Monday. By 10:30 I was at her place at hunters den. It had been too long between visits and I was in need. I'm She provided a great one hour session with me leaving fully sated and ready to travel.

She surprised me with a new twist. I'm a man who appreciates consistency. But variety is also fun! I will repeat.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/142033684704

Enjoy.

G2.

DaveMitch1
10-13-22, 10:34
Rose has yet to disappoint me. She is just so amazing. She has great conversation. She is very sexy and she give a killer massage. She does not do FS or gives BJ. But, she is so good you do not even need any of that from her. She is great with her hands. She know all of the right spots to touch. If I could leave my cock with her all day I would, the finish was absolutely outrageous. Rose knows how to talk you through all that build up stress until you just explode. She takes her time, and one thing I absolutely love is that she does not talk about money! Go see her if you guys get a chance. You will be very satisfied. Panacea is in Comstock Park, Michigan on West River Drive.

BassMaster1
10-13-22, 13:01
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I'd like to thank you as well.

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Love The Lips
10-13-22, 13:13
Who remembers Annie? It's been a while since she was at the parlors but what a body!

Blackfire
10-13-22, 13:14
I would like to personally thank you for quoting this and adding to our workload. Due to the way we view the forum as opposed to you guys picking up shills is very difficult for us, we rely on you guys to report them so we can take care of them. When you quote them to call them out then we also have to find your post and remove that as well. I'm sure it makes you feel smugly superior to do this but it only makes things more difficult.

Stop it.

A2

AspenWood
10-13-22, 13:35
Met with Jessi early last week at her private incall on the west side of GR. She used to be with BBU. She always uses a good amount of oil which I love. We got completely comfortable immediately. She teases and gets things stirring with a gentle, teasing, and sensual touch. After the flip, she let me suck her breasts, dripped oil directly onto my head and shaft. Slowly teasing, edging, and milking me. Bringing me to the edge and holding back. Spitting on the head.

She doesn't do anything more than the massage and HE, but she does this amazing thing where she has me in her hands, breathing on it, and opens her mouth wide and ever so slowly takes my head in her mouth, but not touching it. Kinda simulating a BJ without even touching me with her tongue or lips. She won't go that far. But she is an edge queen.

I wanted her in control and she took control. She decided when it was time for me to bust. When she did, she was merciless and had me shaking and bucking and begging. Plenty of post orgasm torture going on. It was mind-numbing. Quite possible that this was the hardest I have ever busted. She is an edge queen and milked out every drop. She takes direction well and is incredibly sweet. Can't get enough of her! She's quite addictive.

She helped me clean up after, we chatted, hugged, and parted ways for now. Guys, you got to try her. She is a special one!

AspenWood
10-13-22, 15:20
Hey team,

Anyone in contact with or in the know about what happened to all the old BBU girls? Maybe they went UTR? I would still love to meet with them. The ones I've met in particular that I really want to keep in touch with are Nikki, Athena, and Reyna. I have met the first two, but I feel like I missed the bus on Reyna!

Blackfire
10-13-22, 17:38
Met with Jessi early last week at her private incall on the west side of GR. She used to be with BBU. She always uses a good amount of oil which I love. We got completely comfortable immediately. She teases and gets things stirring with a gentle, teasing, and sensual touch. After the flip, she let me suck her breasts, dripped oil directly onto my head and shaft. Slowly teasing, edging, and milking me. Bringing me to the edge and holding back. Spitting on the head.

She doesn't do anything more than the massage and HE, but she does this amazing thing where she has me in her hands, breathing on it, and opens her mouth wide and ever so slowly takes my head in her mouth, but not touching it. Kinda simulating a BJ without even touching me with her tongue or lips. She won't go that far. But she is an edge queen.

I wanted her in control and she took control. She decided when it was time for me to bust. When she did, she was merciless and had me shaking and bucking and begging. Plenty of post orgasm torture going on. It was mind-numbing. Quite possible that this was the hardest I have ever busted. She is an edge queen and milked out every drop. She takes direction well and is incredibly sweet. Can't get enough of her! She's quite addictive.What is the cost of this well described handy?

TravPro
10-13-22, 18:07
Well, must say. I've been following and watching the posts through you lads on here, and it gave me a thought of something I should I try. Visited Asian Ivy today, and had a great time. No big time damage, I must be one of the lucky ones? Highly recommend. Looking forward to speaking with you gents and going under your wings as I try this hobby out. Happy hunting.I must be doing something wrong. Been to Asian Ivy twice and no dream. 5 year hobbyist, successful at other places in GR, Detroit, Battle Creek. Maybe I don't know the password.

This is my first post, been watching boards for a while. I'll start to contribute.

NoseJelly
10-13-22, 18:36
I've been to Asian Ivy 10+ times. Always got a decent or really good massage and HJ. Never shorted on time either. Haven't been there in 2 months. What's the big change?

I'll probably hit a 1 hour there soon to see since Tui Na and Blessings Chain is now on my No Fly List, due to time shorting!

NJ.

AspenWood
10-13-22, 18:40
What is the cost of this well described handy?Sorry for not mentioning!

$2.

I will repeat.

AW.

PurpMan61
10-13-22, 19:22
Met with Jessi early last week at her private incall on the west side of GR. She used to be with BBU. She always uses a good amount of oil which I love. We got completely comfortable immediately. She teases and gets things stirring with a gentle, teasing, and sensual touch. After the flip, she let me suck her breasts, dripped oil directly onto my head and shaft. Slowly teasing, edging, and milking me. Bringing me to the edge and holding back. Spitting on the head.

She doesn't do anything more than the massage and HE, but she does this amazing thing where she has me in her hands, breathing on it, and opens her mouth wide and ever so slowly takes my head in her mouth, but not touching it. Kinda simulating a BJ without even touching me with her tongue or lips. She won't go that far. But she is an edge queen.

I wanted her in control and she took control. She decided when it was time for me to bust. When she did, she was merciless and had me shaking and bucking and begging. Plenty of post orgasm torture going on. It was mind-numbing. Quite possible that this was the hardest I have ever busted. She is an edge queen and milked out every drop. She takes direction well and is incredibly sweet. Can't get enough of her! She's quite addictive.

She helped me clean up after, we chatted, hugged, and parted ways for now. Guys, you got to try her. She is a special one!She made it clear when I saw her that more was on the menu. But it wasn't cheap. Last I spoke to her she's definitely looking for more of a sugar baby / sugar daddy relationship. $1000 a month was her minimum if memory serves me right.

Pete3854
10-13-22, 20:18
Met with Jessi early last week at her private incall on the west side of GR. She used to be with BBU. She always uses a good amount of oil which I love. We got completely comfortable immediately. She teases and gets things stirring with a gentle, teasing, and sensual touch. After the flip, she let me suck her breasts, dripped oil directly onto my head and shaft. Slowly teasing, edging, and milking me. Bringing me to the edge and holding back. Spitting on the head.

She doesn't do anything more than the massage and HE, but she does this amazing thing where she has me in her hands, breathing on it, and opens her mouth wide and ever so slowly takes my head in her mouth, but not touching it. Kinda simulating a BJ without even touching me with her tongue or lips. She won't go that far. But she is an edge queen.

I wanted her in control and she took control. She decided when it was time for me to bust. When she did, she was merciless and had me shaking and bucking and begging. Plenty of post orgasm torture going on. It was mind-numbing. Quite possible that this was the hardest I have ever busted. She is an edge queen and milked out every drop. She takes direction well and is incredibly sweet. Can't get enough of her! She's quite addictive.

She helped me clean up after, we chatted, hugged, and parted ways for now. Guys, you got to try her. She is a special one!Well you're missing out. I have received a BBBJCIM and FS from her.

Love The Lips
10-14-22, 00:04
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Why are you quoting an obvious shill and confirming their fake post?

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AntBz
10-14-22, 08:57
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/ebony-masseuse/096210742504

Read lots of good reviews on Delilah. Seen her in September. $120 for an hour massage. On table with me on flip. She got nude. Wow. What a body. Like swimsuit model. Nice soft kisses which was really nice. Allowed roaming but no FIV. Nice finish with lots of good conversation. $120 quoted fee for an hour. Said that includes tip. I left $30 more. I will repeat.

Merlot69
10-14-22, 14:13
Who remembers Annie? It's been a while since she was at the parlors but what a body!You mean Annie Marie is she back?

Charlie441
10-14-22, 22:08
She made it clear when I saw her that more was on the menu. But it wasn't cheap. Last I spoke to her she's definitely looking for more of a sugar baby / sugar daddy relationship. $1000 a month was her minimum if memory serves me right.If memory serves me right, on SA and the like, a month is 2-3 times. I'll give that 3 times giving benefit of the doubt, but that's still $333 a visit, albeit a long visit / hang out. I guess worth it VS a classic hour-but-1-round, if it's 2-3 rounds, for a few hours hanging out and even going out, if you really enjoy having a full-throttle elongated GFE experience.

But still, more than one round, non-clock-watching for a an hour to get more than one round in -- I wouldn't really liken the experience much more. Maybe to round up, as that's not my style, as a full non-clock-watched hour is refreshing enough, for a one-time or once-in-a-great-while event. Especially when this requires by agreement to have to do that 2 other times within said month, and doing that 3 times every month, too. I guess if I was Really into her and I wasn't well off, but Very Rich, is where I may consider that.

TravPro
10-15-22, 01:27
If memory serves me right, on SA and the like, a month is 2-3 times. I'll give that 3 times giving benefit of the doubt, but that's still $333 a visit, albeit a long visit / hang out. I guess worth it VS a classic hour-but-1-round, if it's 2-3 rounds, for a few hours hanging out and even going out, if you really enjoy having a full-throttle elongated GFE experience.

But still, more than one round, non-clock-watching for a an hour to get more than one round in -- I wouldn't really liken the experience much more. Maybe to round up, as that's not my style, as a full non-clock-watched hour is refreshing enough, for a one-time or once-in-a-great-while event. Especially when this requires by agreement to have to do that 2 other times within said month, and doing that 3 times every month, too. I guess if I was Really into her and I wasn't well off, but Very Rich, is where I may consider that.Most of us can spend $1 k a month (dinner, purses, jewelry) on a girl for the real thing, reaping many more rewards then just 2-3 'unattached sessions' a month. But to each their own. (2 k gets a Louis Vuitton, and I'm still reaping the benefits from last Christmas. LOL).

TomPeterson1
10-15-22, 10:26
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Rose if you make another fake account to review yourself I'll edit the posts so it says you have AIDS.

A2

Sparty On 1234
10-15-22, 10:31
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/ebony-masseuse/096210742504

Read lots of good reviews on Delilah. Seen her in September. $120 for an hour massage. On table with me on flip. She got nude. Wow. What a body. Like swimsuit model. Nice soft kisses which was really nice. Allowed roaming but no FIV. Nice finish with lots of good conversation. $120 quoted fee for an hour. Said that includes tip. I left $30 more. I will repeat.Have seen Deliah several times. Amazing body. Very nice natural tits. Ok massage and will give a nice HJ finish. If you entice her a covered BJ is available. Usually give her $$ for the session. Will not do FS or DATY though. She is hot and worth a visit.

Merlot69
10-15-22, 10:50
If memory serves me right, on SA and the like, a month is 2-3 times. I'll give that 3 times giving benefit of the doubt, but that's still $333 a visit, albeit a long visit / hang out. I guess worth it VS a classic hour-but-1-round, if it's 2-3 rounds, for a few hours hanging out and even going out, if you really enjoy having a full-throttle elongated GFE experience.

But still, more than one round, non-clock-watching for a an hour to get more than one round in -- I wouldn't really liken the experience much more. Maybe to round up, as that's not my style, as a full non-clock-watched hour is refreshing enough, for a one-time or once-in-a-great-while event. Especially when this requires by agreement to have to do that 2 other times within said month, and doing that 3 times every month, too. I guess if I was Really into her and I wasn't well off, but Very Rich, is where I may consider that.Should be at least once a week with 1 dinner date especially paying up front has to be a lot of trust going into it.

HarryHood
10-15-22, 11:30
You mean Annie Marie is she back?I'd love to know how to get a hold of Annie!

Gene2
10-16-22, 08:45
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/see-the-one-and-only-cassidy/265078132014

Seen Cassidy in August after reading review from hanglow. Booked hour. She looks Latina and middle eastern. Got nude at flip. Very good body and soft skin. Get up on table and I finished Russian. $150 including tip. I will repeat. My first review.So she's not Cassidy James, but a massage provider Cassidy? Are photos accurate? Is menu open at all? Thanks for your review. It is helpful.

G2.

TypicalDude
10-16-22, 14:37
Overdue review.

A few visits with Mia that were really good on massage, tho very different each time on flip. Ranging from great to so-so.

One visit with a newer girl that was not good.

May or may not repeat. Especially after reading about some more recent visits by others that were entirely unsuccessful.

TypicalDude
10-16-22, 14:38
Visited here after reading about extras beyond HJ. But I was told these options were "very expensive. ".

Older woman, barely any effort on massage, all very rushed, will not repeat.

TypicalDude
10-16-22, 14:40
Haven't been able to book more than hhr session (my fault, not hers).

Basically every review is spot on, Simply Sweet is terrific in every way.

Very good experience, relaxing environment, very skilled provider.

Will repeat.

TypicalDude
10-16-22, 14:44
I've searched the forums but found very little recent info.

Anyone know of a salon or provider that also does waxing plus any type of extras? Metro GR area preferred.

I read about a lot of salons / etc. In other cities where waxing is among the services provided, with extras on the menu as well. But I haven't found any recent mentions of such places locally.

Thanks for any possible leads.

AntBz
10-16-22, 17:47
So she's not Cassidy James, but a massage provider Cassidy? Are photos accurate? Is menu open at all? Thanks for your review. It is helpful.

G2.https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/see-the-one-and-only-cassidy/172933431342

Yes. Cassidy is massage. She's not the Cassidy James from escort thread. Photos are not her. She actually looks better looking IRL. She's thinner with a very petite figure and silky smooth skin. Especially her boobs. She's Hispanic with maybe mid eastern ethnic. She allows mutual touch. She's very quiet. Not talkative like others. But very intimate. I can see that more visits may well provide even a more intimate adventure. I will repeat. I hope my posts help you.

Pete3854
10-16-22, 18:39
I've searched the forums but found very little recent info.

Anyone know of a salon or provider that also does waxing plus any type of extras? Metro GR area preferred.

I read about a lot of salons / etc. In other cities where waxing is among the services provided, with extras on the menu as well. But I haven't found any recent mentions of such places locally.

Thanks for any possible leads.Best get the extras BEFORE the waxing, you won't feel.

Like playing after the waxing LOL.

Merlot69
10-16-22, 19:19
You mean Annie Marie is she back?You meen annie from ma ma deas pm me.

Star1967
10-16-22, 21:59
I've searched the forums but found very little recent info.

Anyone know of a salon or provider that also does waxing plus any type of extras? Metro GR area preferred.

I read about a lot of salons / etc. In other cities where waxing is among the services provided, with extras on the menu as well. But I haven't found any recent mentions of such places locally.

Thanks for any possible leads.There's a beautiful Latina in Kentwood who goes by Sweetcheeks. She's got an office in a business park, it's all very legit and non- shady. Anyway, I asked if she'd wax the back of my arms and she brought in a wax kit. She took care of it in about five minutes. She also offers an outstanding massage and HE. She does not advertise on STG or any other forum, though she has in the past. Anyway, dm me and I'll send her number.

AntBz
10-17-22, 09:24
I had to leave town for work again. But before leaving I decided to treat myself with a visit to Lauren. Reached out and texted her when I saw her ad post about 9:00 am on Monday. By 10:30 I was at her place at hunters den. It had been too long between visits and I was in need. I'm She provided a great one hour session with me leaving fully sated and ready to travel.

She surprised me with a new twist. I'm a man who appreciates consistency. But variety is also fun! I will repeat.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/142033684704

Enjoy.

G2.Thanks gene. Can you or anyone tell me best way to get approved to see her? She says no new clients. Do I still reach out and ask? Or is that just going to be a bother to her? I do have references or I don't mind deposit for well reviewed providers.

Benz1
10-17-22, 10:53
I don't mind deposit for well reviewed providers.Whenever you make an electric payment, it's traceable back to you or whoever the card is registered to.

AntBz
10-17-22, 11:43
Whenever you make an electric payment, it's traceable back to you or whoever the card is registered to.Always nice to have caution. I have a cashapp account linked only to my burner phone. And it funded from a prepaid visa card. And I can add more to it by bringing cash to a rite aid store. Only $1 few to load it that way. So my comfort level is good with this process. But I guess maybe others here haven't listened about getting a burner phone. Great advice.

Russians
10-17-22, 12:12
Has anybody got a massage from Emily recently if so could you pm me her #.

Gene2
10-18-22, 08:59
Thanks gene. Can you or anyone tell me best way to get approved to see her? She says no new clients. Do I still reach out and ask? Or is that just going to be a bother to her? I do have references or I don't mind deposit for well reviewed providers.Safety is a concern for many of these ladies. Also being assured a client isn't affiliated with LE is vital. And finally, making sure payment is made now is a valid concern as has been reported we have reverse cash and dash monger.

Hope it helps. It's worth the extra steps it takes.

G2.

Benz1
10-18-22, 12:01
Always nice to have caution. I have a cashapp account linked only to my burner phone. And it funded from a prepaid visa card. And I can add more to it by bringing cash to a rite aid store. Only $1 few to load it that way. So my comfort level is good with this process. But I guess maybe others here haven't listened about getting a burner phone. Great advice.Did you have to register the prepaid visa in your name?

Your method is good and thanks for sharing. If you register a visa card in your name, maybe the provider can't see who you are but LE could if they wanted to.

BoatGuy1
10-18-22, 12:42
No, just pay with cash at the register and don't use any type of "points" card or frequent flyer number, etc. Technically if they wanted they could trace back the visa to pos and look at cameras at walgreens to see who purchased it.


Did you have to register the prepaid visa in your name?

Your method is good and thanks for sharing. If you register a visa card in your name, maybe the provider can't see who you are but LE could if they wanted to.

Croppyboy
10-18-22, 12:58
Hi guys. I'll be in your area in a few weeks.

I'm heading North of Grand Rapids for work. I though I would stay the night before in the GR area (can be anywhere in the area).

I'm not heading over to Lansing, so Jackson is out.

Do you have a recommended AMP in the general area? I have been reading the boards and still cannot nail down a few places.

I'm coming from the West (Chicago).

Thanks CB.

AntBz
10-18-22, 13:25
Did you have to register the prepaid visa in your name?

Your method is good and thanks for sharing. If you register a visa card in your name, maybe the provider can't see who you are but LE could if they wanted to.It's pretty anonymous. No need to register prepaid visa. And you can easily use cash at rite aid or lots of other places to reload your cashapp account. The app generates a code for the store. You pay $1 fee and add cash immediately. I just added $200 yesterday. Took less than five minutes.

Also I read a post from you about phone being tracked from wife. Just use the airplane mode to hide activity. Or if you have an iPhone use a connected iPad to be the device she can track. Then use airplane mode on the iPad. That way you can still use your phone. Just remember to reverse it before you get home. Stay safe Benz.

Sparty On 1234
10-18-22, 14:10
Hi guys. I'll be in your area in a few weeks.

I'm heading North of Grand Rapids for work. I though I would stay the night before in the GR area (can be anywhere in the area).

I'm not heading over to Lansing, so Jackson is out.

Do you have a recommended AMP in the general area? I have been reading the boards and still cannot nail down a few places.

I'm coming from the West (Chicago).

Thanks CB.Saisha at Royal Touch is my go to girl. Ava at Panacea is great too. PM me if you want any details.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/-saisha-bab--the-unicorn--habl/474563945997

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/halloween-theme-get-scratch-of/165189511050

Gene2
10-18-22, 14:30
Hi guys. I'll be in your area in a few weeks.

I'm heading North of Grand Rapids for work. I though I would stay the night before in the GR area (can be anywhere in the area).

I'm not heading over to Lansing, so Jackson is out.

Do you have a recommended AMP in the general area? I have been reading the boards and still cannot nail down a few places.

I'm coming from the West (Chicago).

Thanks CB.Great choices in the area. Looks like Serenity has the all star back!

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/milan-hayley-tiffany-bella--op/729774921250

Or hunters den has great variety with a hall of fame roster.

Lauren.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/159864393176

Hunter.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter--new-number-week-sched/971333438867

Nola / Phoenix.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/nola/023889534452

Serenity offers walk in. Hunters den doesn't. Some of us prefer one over the other. But you'll be pleasantly satisfied at either.

Enjoy GR.

G2.

Stroker417
10-18-22, 17:27
Great choices in the area. Looks like Serenity has the all star back!

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/milan-hayley-tiffany-bella--op/729774921250

Or hunters den has great variety with a hall of fame roster.

Lauren.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/159864393176

Hunter.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter--new-number-week-sched/971333438867

Nola / Phoenix.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/nola/023889534452

Serenity offers walk in. Hunters den doesn't. Some of us prefer one over the other. But you'll be pleasantly satisfied at either.

Enjoy GR.

G2.Hey Gene, who's the All-Star at Serenity?

Gene2
10-18-22, 18:54
Hey Gene, who's the All-Star at Serenity?The blonde spinner named after the beautiful city in Italy (not the ugly city downriver in Michigan). I've posted several times about her.

G2.

Rare Crzr
10-19-22, 09:59
Great choices in the area. Looks like Serenity has the all star back!

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/milan-hayley-tiffany-bella--op/729774921250

Or hunters den has great variety with a hall of fame roster.

Lauren.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/159864393176

Hunter.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter--new-number-week-sched/971333438867

Nola / Phoenix.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/nola/023889534452

Serenity offers walk in. Hunters den doesn't. Some of us prefer one over the other. But you'll be pleasantly satisfied at either.

Enjoy GR.

G2.Each one of these providers says they are not taking new clients unless they have a reference from one of the others. How does a new guy get in?

Gene2
10-19-22, 10:55
My work has taken me out of state a lot this year. And while the traveling is intriguing, my participation in my favorite hobby suffers. So I made it back to Michigan for a few days before I have to leave again. The weather here was terrible and I was chilled and needing a good diversion. So I set an appointment with Lauren. The mocha skinned beauty with the warm body I needed. My arrival coincided with my bringing some fresh fruit and wine. Lauren had carved out a good chunk of time for me, so neither of us were rushed. We just sat in the room together and visited, fully clothed. She asked about my travels and I told her an embarrassing story from my youth. Pretty soon I feel a light touch on my leg. She's gently using her fingernails to lightly caress my fully clothed leg. Soon it's at my inner thigh. And things begin stirring deep within my essence of manhood. The light touch is soon accompanied by light whispers in my ear about how she's missed my touch. By now I have a raging woody. And it's a good type of uncomfortable feeling where the erection is cramped inside my pants. Aching for release. And then she starts to undress me. The shirt first. Followed by gentle soft kisses that continued to build the eager anticipation deep inside of me. And then she unzips my pants and the cotton twill prison holding my engorged medium sized cock is loosened. Or should I say my "extra medium" sized cock. What a build up! What an incredible woman! The rest of the event is rated TV-MA so it will have to remain unreported herein. But suffice it to say, I highly recommend this angel of mercy. I will repeat.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/161525016555

Enjoy.

G2.

OnlyVrx
10-19-22, 12:50
I'm visiting GR in a few weeks. After contacting all of these lovely ladies, NONE of them are seeing anyone new unless you have a referral from one of the others. How would you suggest booking an appointment? Any ideas? Thanks fellas.


Each one of these providers says they are not taking new clients unless they have a reference from one of the others. How does a new guy get in?


Great choices in the area. Looks like Serenity has the all star back!

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/milan-hayley-tiffany-bella--op/729774921250

Or hunters den has great variety with a hall of fame roster.

Lauren.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/159864393176

Hunter.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter--new-number-week-sched/971333438867

Nola / Phoenix.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/nola/023889534452

Serenity offers walk in. Hunters den doesn't. Some of us prefer one over the other. But you'll be pleasantly satisfied at either.

Enjoy GR.

G2.

Tommey
10-19-22, 14:47
I'm visiting GR in a few weeks. After contacting all of these lovely ladies, NONE of them are seeing anyone new unless you have a referral from one of the others. How would you suggest booking an appointment? Any ideas? Thanks fellas.You picked some really great providers there. As you may have read, these are some of the more popular exclusive massage providers in town. And that can make it difficult to schedule a first visit with them. But it can be done.

Best route is to contact them ASAP, let them know when you are coming and available for a visit. Give them your name (or name you choose to share), approx age, and maybe a vague description of your job. If you have a regular provider in town, mention her. Also, try contacting each of these gals separately now, and start the conversation.

The exclusive providers in town screen mainly for safety and LEO. So a little back and forth should clear it up. Be patient and persistent.

There are a few other exclusive providers in town, and some of them may be easier to schedule, in case you do run into difficulty. Try Luxe, the rest of the Serenity staff, and Bodywork by Us too.

My advice for a first visit with one of the exclusive gals is to play it cool. There are some crazy fun times outlined on these boards. Do not go in swinging for the fences. That stuff tends to happen on a second (maybe third) visit, after the gal gets to know you. Also come fresh, and display some general friendliness. While that isn't necessary, once you have a good experience with one of these gals, you will be coming back. And you can lean on the first gal as a reference in meeting others, wherever they work. So make a good first impression.

If you follow this thread, you probably know that outside of those and a few independent exclusive providers, it is mostly the same AMP and basic fun massage you will find anywhere. Of those options, Panacea is the best. But be prepared to be asked for a ridiculous amount of cash for a basic visit. Some of the staff is a little skewed on pricing ATM. If you go to Panacea, try Kayla, Ava, Melissa, Peyton, or Natalie.

OnlyVrx
10-19-22, 15:23
I'm visiting in a few weeks and stumbled across this ad during my research. Has anyone experienced her services? I'm particularly interested in the milking table. Intel is appreciated! PM OK.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/nuru-queen--prostate-master-pa/733765187583

Mongerlian
10-19-22, 15:28
Each one of these providers says they are not taking new clients unless they have a reference from one of the others. How does a new guy get in?LOL! Kind of like needing experience for a job you can only get experience doing. I too long to enjoy these ladies, and with Gene constantly reporting on them, it's like someone waving a delicious steak dinner in front of my face only to have them slap my hand away when I reach for it. But, maybe at some point, the restrictions will loosen a bit, and a couple more of us can enjoy a visit to the Den. Till then, we'll just have to spend our money elsewhere. I can very highly recommend Delilah for a fun, attractive woman who gives a good massage.

Bopa1
10-19-22, 16:24
Heard CJ is strictly outcall now looking for some more privacy. Having her at private place is nothing but a huge bonus if you know what I mean. Don't miss out.

NoseJelly
10-19-22, 16:48
Maybe one of the Monger Frequent Flyers, that raves about the High End Talent, could provide a Reference for other Mongers.

Not advocating for myself. I'm more of an AMP or Walk-ins Welcomed Monger!

LandRover20
10-19-22, 16:51
She's gently using her fingernails to lightly caress my fully clothed leg. Soon it's at my inner thigh. And things begin stirring deep within my essence of manhood. "essence of manhood".

Isn't that the new fragrance from Calvin Klein?

Tommey
10-19-22, 17:14
Maybe one of the Monger Frequent Flyers, that raves about the High End Talent, could provide a Reference for other Mongers.

Not advocating for myself. I'm more of an AMP or Walk-ins Welcomed Monger!Look what happens with so many of the new UTR gals who get chased out of the biz because they meet the wrong dude. I'd guess the reluctance would be even higher with these sought after massage gals.

I suspect the best route, if you are interested in seeing one of these gals, is to be patient and persistent. Text a few you find interesting, tell them you'd like a chance. And see where that goes. An adjunct to this route is offering any provider reference you can, whether someone from a parlor or an escort.

Short of that, I just don't see it working.

Gene2
10-19-22, 18:08
I'm visiting GR in a few weeks. After contacting all of these lovely ladies, NONE of them are seeing anyone new unless you have a referral from one of the others. How would you suggest booking an appointment? Any ideas? Thanks fellas.There's been some good suggestions here. And perhaps being aware of the reasons behind the ladies caution can help.

1. LE fears. We've just been through times of all sorts of concern about LE investigation. Some of the concern is likely overblown. But that's easy for me to say. The primary target of LE isn't the monger, it's the provider. So they have really good reason to be concerned. So when a new client reaches out, the ladies have to be assured that they are not being set up for a sting. State you're not LE. That's where references help. And even a long standing presence here with plenty of your posts of reviews they can read. They can see youre not a new member who maybe just signed up. Or a member who doesnt leave reviews and they may wish to decline seeing. That helps the ladies know who is knocking at her door.

2. Personal safety. Benz and others here have enlightened us with tales of inappropriate behavior from some mongers who want more than the provider is willing to give. The ladies rely on their gut reaction to even the texts received. Ones that are respectful and informative are welcome. Others come across as arrogant or demanding or pushy. Those get ignored and maybe blocked. Patient answering questions and providing responses separates good guys from others. One provider told me she knows what the client is all about from his first text. She said its never good when its “Hey. You available? How much $? An articulate introduction and respect go a long way.

3. Payment. Unfortunately we apparently have a monger who's been accused by numerous providers of reverse cash and dash. He leaves after the appointment and never pays. The ladies all talk and they know that danger exists of not getting paid. While deposits are never a good idea with an unknown provider, they can be a viable option for a well established provider who wants assurances from a new client.

4. Supply and demand. Some of these providers are low volume and highly reviewed. As a result they have a good cache of loyal clients who keep them busy and well compensated. Once again, Benz has provided some stellar advice about days of better options. He states, accurately, that Mondays and Tuesdays are slow days for providers. So contact her if she's posted on a Monday or Tuesday and be prepared to be flexible when you can see her. And be on time. And wait until she says it's OK to come in. Don't come knocking on the door. Make yourself a preferred client by good behavior and complimentary observations. Ask if lunch or something to drink would be appreciated. Rise above the others competing for those elusive appointments. And be clean and fresh breathed.

Hope that helps. But hopefully not too much. I still want my appointments!

Prepare.

G2.

Benz1
10-19-22, 18:37
Look what happens with so many of the new UTR gals who get chased out of the biz because they meet the wrong dude. I'd guess the reluctance would be even higher with these sought after massage gals.

I suspect the best route, if you are interested in seeing one of these gals, is to be patient and persistent. Text a few you find interesting, tell them you'd like a chance. And see where that goes. An adjunct to this route is offering any provider reference you can, whether someone from a parlor or an escort.

Short of that, I just don't see it working.Jenna has a line at the bottom of her ad that offers references for Gentlemen. Maybe that's a new path for Gentlemen.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/weenie-wednesday-616-591-1644-/924017600914

OnlyVrx
10-19-22, 18:38
"essence of manhood".

Isn't that the new fragrance from Calvin Klein?This made me honestly laugh out loud. Funniest thing I've read all week! Thanks for that.

Merlot69
10-19-22, 18:48
It's pretty anonymous. No need to register prepaid visa. And you can easily use cash at rite aid or lots of other places to reload your cashapp account. The app generates a code for the store. You pay $1 fee and add cash immediately. I just added $200 yesterday. Took less than five minutes.

Also I read a post from you about phone being tracked from wife. Just use the airplane mode to hide activity. Or if you have an iPhone use a connected iPad to be the device she can track. Then use airplane mode on the iPad. That way you can still use your phone. Just remember to reverse it before you get home. Stay safe Benz.Enplane to me about using your iPad as a burn phone.

NoseJelly
10-19-22, 19:08
If a High End Massage Frequent Flyer Monger can't vouch for 2 or 3 proven solid Senior Members, at an establishment that isn't taking new clients without a reference, there's no need to continue to breathlessly report on them. IMO. Unless they just want to brag or look like Super Monger! UTRs usually run into trouble when they get the jones for a bigger payday and relax their intake standards.

Gene2
10-19-22, 19:24
If a High End Massage Frequent Flyer Monger can't vouch for 2 or 3 proven solid Senior Members, at an establishment that isn't taking new clients without a reference, there's no need to continue to breathlessly report on them. IMO. Unless they just want to brag or look like Super Monger! UTRs usually run into trouble when they get the jones for a bigger payday and relax their intake standards.I have given references for several proven senior members. And while it works most of the time, I have also been embarrassed a time or two. I will continue to provide references for proven seniors, but I do research them more diligently now. And I won't give a reference for ones who argue about payment or give comments that demean a provider. I might be an outlier here, but I do truly appreciate the ladies who are highly rated and beautiful. I am also worried about how some of them get treated. So it's not a "one size fits all" solution for me. Does that make sense? I am willing to alter my approach. But I need to have good reasons for it. Men, it was very embarrassing to me recently to be the one who recommended a senior only to have him allegedly “reverse cash and dash.” I almost felt like I should have compensated the provider for my reference going awry. Can you see why this is a dilemma to me?

G2.

Blackfire
10-19-22, 20:26
I have given references for several proven senior members. And while it works most of the time, I have also been embarrassed a time or two. I will continue to provide references for proven seniors, but I do research them more diligently now. And I won't give a reference for ones who argue about payment or give comments that demean a provider. I might be an outlier here, but I do truly appreciate the ladies who are highly rated and beautiful. I am also worried about how some of them get treated. So it's not a "one size fits all" solution for me. Does that make sense? I am willing to alter my approach. But I need to have good reasons for it. Men, it was very embarrassing to me recently to be the one who recommended a senior only to have him allegedly reverse cash and dash. I almost felt like I should have compensated the provider for my reference going awry. Can you see why this is a dilemma to me?

G2.If the story about the senior member is true, why not call him out on the board? He would have a chance to either be embarrassed himself or explain the circumstances. And if he doesn't or can't explain himself it would be helpful to anyone else to be aware of his behaviour so they don't make the same mistake. If the story is true.

That type of information would be way more helpful to the board and the ladies than a review or advertisement for 1 lady.

Benz1
10-19-22, 20:33
I have given references for several proven senior members. And while it works most of the time, I have also been embarrassed a time or two. I will continue to provide references for proven seniors, but I do research them more diligently now. And I won't give a reference for ones who argue about payment or give comments that demean a provider. I might be an outlier here, but I do truly appreciate the ladies who are highly rated and beautiful. I am also worried about how some of them get treated. So it's not a "one size fits all" solution for me. Does that make sense? I am willing to alter my approach. But I need to have good reasons for it. Men, it was very embarrassing to me recently to be the one who recommended a senior only to have him allegedly reverse cash and dash. I almost felt like I should have compensated the provider for my reference going awry. Can you see why this is a dilemma to me?

G2.How do you know who did the dash without cash?

If you know, I think we should all know. For the benefit of the team and the providers.

NoseJelly
10-19-22, 21:05
Dash without Cash AKA Pump 'and Dash!

This is a risky Hobby. That's why we need this Forum and Ladies need to give out rules.

Gene2
10-19-22, 21:09
Dash without Cash AKA Pump 'and Dash!

This is a risky Hobby. That's why we need this Forum and Ladies need to give out rules.Your observational humor is always on point.

AntBz
10-20-22, 18:31
Enplane to me about using your iPad as a burn phone.An iPad can be used with your iPhone with a linked appleID. Then if your spouse activated your phone with the "find my" feature you can switch it to the iPad that gets tracked. Then if you set the iPad to air plane mode, it shows you haven't moved. But you still have your iPhone working if she calls you. It's simply a way to not be tracked without deactivating that feature which sends a notification to her that you have deactivated it.

A burner phone is a cheap phone you buy at Walmart or rite aid and it has its own phone number.

NoseJelly
10-20-22, 18:52
Any intel on this New Parlor? The name Trinity sounds familiar.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/the-red-roseopen-late/185422196322

Gene2
10-20-22, 20:48
She is an enigma. A beautiful woman who is extremely passionate. That passion was on full display during my most current visit with her. I purposely set an appointment for evening when she was providing just a short time availability. I booked the whole time she had available. I brought dinner and wine. We enjoyed the meal and great conversation. She's an engaging woman. She has strong opinions on everything. Some I embrace. Others I wholeheartedly reject. But she's fine with that. She scolds me when I say I've never felt my physical looks are my strong suit, that it's my sarcastic humor and verbosity that is. I almost believe her when she says I am good looking. Once the dinner conversation has ended, we adjourned to the massage. She is a strong masseuse with great skills. But the teasing is beyond the pale. I beg for the flip and she accedes to my request. The continued action was part GFE and part PSE. I was fully involved in a litany of morally reprehensible activities that were both exciting and fulfilling. The details of the escalated paramour activities are fully etched in my mind. It's hard to believe how fully engaged she is when the passion overtakes her. Of course your results may vary, but I believe any man who comes under her lustful spell will be completely satisfied and exhausted. And he will feel like he is a satyr.

I will repeat.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter--new-number-week-sched/471990761894

Enjoy.

G2.

Bopa1
10-20-22, 22:20
Any info on this place Fuller and Leonard?

NotNewToThis22
10-21-22, 00:24
Any intel on this New Parlor? The name Trinity sounds familiar.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/the-red-roseopen-late/185422196322I'm going to give them a try in the morning seeing as I have the day off. I'll report back after.

Gatorade1972
10-21-22, 01:47
She is an enigma. A beautiful woman who is extremely passionate. That passion was on full display during my most current visit with her. I purposely set an appointment for evening when she was providing just a short time availability. I booked the whole time she had available. I brought dinner and wine. We enjoyed the meal and great conversation. She's an engaging woman. She has strong opinions on everything. Some I embrace. Others I wholeheartedly reject. But she's fine with that. She scolds me when I say I've never felt my physical looks are my strong suit, that it's my sarcastic humor and verbosity that is. I almost believe her when she says I am good looking. Once the dinner conversation has ended, we adjourned to the massage. She is a strong masseuse with great skills. But the teasing is beyond the pale. I beg for the flip and she accedes to my request. The continued action was part GFE and part PSE. I was fully involved in a litany of morally reprehensible activities that were both exciting and fulfilling. The details of the escalated paramour activities are fully etched in my mind. It's hard to believe how fully engaged she is when the passion overtakes her. Of course your results may vary, but I believe any man who comes under her lustful spell will be completely satisfied and exhausted. And he will feel like he is a satyr.

I will repeat.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter--new-number-week-sched/471990761894

Enjoy.

G2.I totally agree. She is very passionate in everything she does. After we do our business, we end up talking for awhile. She is a beautiful woman inside and out. I can't wait to see her again.

Rossm
10-21-22, 07:50
Not sure what the rest of you guys are paying, but I was recently told they need double the room rate for a tip. Needless to say I balked.

LakeGuy70
10-21-22, 09:16
Not sure what the rest of you guys are paying, but I was recently told they need double the room rate for a tip. Needless to say I balked.I have been there many times and it always is about two bills. We all need to just stop going there for a while.