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Benz1
10-04-18, 18:52
This thread is littered with bad serenity reviews. I'm sure they're not all bad providers there but the place is getting the same rep as royal has for high rates = poor service. Not a good business model.Happens all the time, especially with the young and pretty, once they get comfortable with the job they see what they can get away with. It happened at Healthy Habits with two young hotties that didn't care until they were fired. Made room for Amy to work there.

Wynter no longer works at Serenity.

She's working at another salon, changed her name and phone number (just like the bad escorts).

Donntee
10-04-18, 19:27
Happens all the time, especially with the young and pretty, once they get comfortable with the job they see what they can get away with.

Wynter no longer works at Serenity.

She's working at another salon, changed her name and phone number (just like the bad escorts).Well said. They are very stupid when it comes to the business and marketing side of it all. I don't think they understand the concept of repeat business. Instead of saying "Thank you" they say "F you!

PieBoy
10-04-18, 20:13
Well said. They are very stupid when it comes to the business and marketing side of it all. I don't think they understand the concept of repeat business. Instead of saying "Thank you" they say "F you!Bit of a catch 22. M1 in detroit is overwhelmed with business and now paranoid. Mikki in lansing can't take a vacation day, or a sick day.

MichiganMan686
10-05-18, 01:32
Had some time available so I went to Panacea. Used to go there many times but it had been a year or so cause I became a regular of Blonde25 and Linda at Pacific. Any way I called did half hour. I took random girl and said you pick over the phone. I got Kelly who remembered me and I ve had before. Definitely not a clock watcher. Session went almost the full half hour with a really awesome rub. I was really impressed. Very nice technique. Great conversation and just a really great person she is. The ending started as teasing before the flip which was cool. I kinda got up on my knees and got like a reach around type release that again no clock watching. I was hard enough to cut diamonds. Really great ending. She cleaned me up. Paid. 4 and. 4 tip. I'll be back again. Still hoping for a return from Blonde 25 though. I really loved spending time with her. Happy hunting.

Bismark
10-05-18, 08:29
Stopped without an appointment and drew a new girl. Paid 80 for an hour. Started ok, then about 15 into it she says "I'm going to step out and you can turn over and leave my tip on the desk". Thinking this is different but oh well I leave 100 on the table. She returns and starts a half assed HJ. I ask for at least nude she says no. Ok, how about top off, she takes off shirt and continues in her bra. I ask again and it comes off. That's it, I'm out in 25 minutes. Taking that place off the list.Do you remember her name by chance? I understand Winter is gone from there and I was thinking of giving Serenity another run. I'd like to avoid the known problems if possible.

Benz1
10-05-18, 09:25
Do you remember her name by chance? I understand Winter is gone from there and I was thinking of giving Serenity another run. I'd like to avoid the known problems if possible.Hayley has tried to hire good looking trainable girls.

Wynter obviously needed more training beyond how to put on her makeup. The bad attitude and poor service reviews.
Caused Hayley to monitor and coach her. She Didn't work out or last long.

The new hot girl named Kyra might need coaching too and might be next to go.

DjBiker
10-05-18, 10:46
This thread is littered with bad serenity reviews. I'm sure they're not all bad providers there but the place is getting the same rep as royal has for high rates = poor service. Not a good business model.Funny, I said something about prices there months ago, then got scolded as argumentative, then called "budget monger" by another monger who may or may not haves ties somehow with the place but call me names I elected to move on and now people all over board figuring out that their rates are crazy oh well have a good day.

TwoTrack
10-05-18, 11:27
Hayley has tried to hire good looking trainable girls.

Wynter obviously needed more training beyond how to put on her makeup. The bad attitude and poor service reviews.
Caused Hayley to monitor and coach her. She Didn't work out or last long.

The new hot girl named Kyra might need coaching too and might be next to go.Wynter definitely thought she was WAY more than she was!

Also, it's a good thing she had all that make up!

My. 02.

2 track.

JimmyTheKid2
10-05-18, 11:31
Had the opportunity to finally see Amyna after trying to schedule with her the past few days. Communication was great via text and she was really accomadating with her scheduling as my schedule can be very inconsistent. She was running about 20 minutes late due to other clients showing up late. My day was open so I was happy to wait for her. Amyna, is a super sweet girl and was very appreciative of my patience. I booked an hour with her, but actually received closer to 1. 5 hours (I was her last client). She is nice to look at and her attitude is even better. She is enjoyable to talk to and has a really cute laugh. The massage is actually really good. She used medium pressure and ended with some light touch with her fingernails that gave me goosebumps. Tickle teasing is awesome. The flip was great. She's my favorite so far and will be back to see her. Damage was 60/60. Stay safe. JTK.

Bismark
10-05-18, 14:43
Hayley has tried to hire good looking trainable girls.

Wynter obviously needed more training beyond how to put on her makeup. The bad attitude and poor service reviews.
Caused Hayley to monitor and coach her. She Didn't work out or last long.

The new hot girl named Kyra might need coaching too and might be next to go.Thanks. Kyra was who I was looking at so I think I'll wait and see what happens.

IrishGuy77
10-05-18, 21:41
Just saw she's back! Only saw her one time due to our schedules not meshing after. But I'm happy to hear she is back! She is a lot of fun and great to look at!

Benz1
10-06-18, 01:35
Funny, I said something about prices there months ago, then got scolded as argumentative, then called "budget monger" by another monger who may or may not haves ties somehow with the place but call me names I elected to move on and now people all over board figuring out that their rates are crazy oh well have a good day. the Budget Monger post was for a new UTR, not directed at anyone, however your post prompted mine. There's a Jack for every Jill.

I'm a budget minded monger.

I never hobby on Thursday, Friday or Saturday, Costs too much to monger on busy days.

I hobby on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, best days for negotiations.

That was great how TonyNash900 handled Wynter, I would have done the same thing, Got dressed and Walked out the door. I've done it many times on an upsell. Happens all the time. I'm with Bismark on Kyra, after that review from RichieGR it's a wait and see.

IrishGuy77
10-06-18, 05:33
Wish I would of mongered early in the week. Benz is so right that price was always higher Thursday-Sunday. I think I even got rushed through the door faster too! Except with Kandi!


the Budget Monger post was for a new UTR, not directed at anyone, however your post prompted mine. There's a Jack for every Jill.

I'm a budget minded monger.

I never hobby on Thursday, Friday or Saturday, Costs too much to monger on busy days.

I hobby on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, best days for negotiations.

That was great how TonyNash900 handled Wynter, I would have done the same thing, Got dressed and Walked out the door. I've done it many times on an upsell. Happens all the time. I'm with Bismark on Kyra, after that review from RichieGR it's a wait and see.

DocMustard
10-08-18, 20:19
Been reading the forum for a while. Made and apt with Layla last weekend. Had a great time. Senior members feel free to pm for details.

Wolverines
10-08-18, 23:04
Anyone seen this hottie yet? Have not seen any reviews for her.

Monger01
10-09-18, 08:28
Scolded? Please scold me too! Seriously though high rates for lack luster service is what it is. Mongers white kniting for Serenity won't change the facts. 180 for a topless no touching he and shorted on time to boot can't be glossed over just because your experience was better or you like paying more than local escorts charge for full service to a girl with gps and a massage table.


Funny, I said something about prices there months ago, then got scolded as argumentative, then called "budget monger" by another monger who may or may not haves ties somehow with the place but call me names I elected to move on and now people all over board figuring out that their rates are crazy oh well have a good day.

Benz1
10-09-18, 09:29
Anyone seen this hottie yet? Have not seen any reviews for her.Wynter is not at Serenity anymore, she has relocated with new digits.

New, hot and 22.

Looks like Wolverines may have found the missing Wynter. Approach with caution as the sea sirens are singing. She is alluring but she might be the girl that Monger01 is talking about.

MusicBoss10
10-09-18, 11:36
Wynter is not at Serenity anymore, she has relocated with new digits.

New, hot and 22.

Looks like Wolverines may have found the missing Wynter. Approach with caution as the sea sirens are singing. She is alluring but she might be the girl that Monger01 is talking about.What is Wolverines? Thanks.

DiamondBebe
10-09-18, 12:34
Joy is working at royal and also oasis. You would hve to call for the known days.


Anyone know where Thai Joy is working since the 48th and Division place closed?

Thanks! NJ.

+1 to what Monger01 said.

Girls1
10-09-18, 13:03
Senior member on this board.


What is Wolverines? Thanks.

Randy2018
10-09-18, 13:33
I've seen Layla three times in the past month and been highly satisfied each time. Layla is tall, with great legs and a very nice chest. She's clean, well groomed, and easy to talk to, but the most striking thing is how present and engaged she is. Full time was not an issue. She seems genuinely interested in what she does, and has a lot of enthusiasm to go along with top notch skills.

Bismark
10-09-18, 13:55
Wynter is not at Serenity anymore, she has relocated with new digits.

New, hot and 22.

Looks like Wolverines may have found the missing Wynter. Approach with caution as the sea sirens are singing. She is alluring but she might be the girl that Monger01 is talking about.Is she though? This ad looks a lot like she's available at Serenity. Personally, I don't care if she's there or not; I'll not toss good money after bad on her. But it is worth noting in case I try there again as I don't really want to run into her.

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=63909&cityid=222

Monger01
10-09-18, 14:40
I like her email addy. Seems VERY appropriate.


Is she though? This ad looks a lot like she's available at Serenity. Personally, I don't care if she's there or not; I'll not toss good money after bad on her. But it is worth noting in case I try there again as I don't really want to run into her.

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=63909&cityid=222

Hayleymatters
10-09-18, 21:24
Is she though? This ad looks a lot like she's available at Serenity. Personally, I don't care if she's there or not; I'll not toss good money after bad on her. But it is worth noting in case I try there again as I don't really want to run into her.

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=63909&cityid=222No winter is NO longer At Serenity!! I can't control her ads. I do have a Manager that is working full time now and.

More girls, soon a "Popular" well known provider will be joining!!

NoseJelly
10-10-18, 00:14
Joy is working at royal and also oasis. You would hve to call for the known days.Fabulous! Thanks!

Faust22
10-10-18, 03:23
I like her email addy. Seems VERY appropriate.I did not notice her email address until Monger pointed it out. I'm amazed at how stupid some of the providers are. Does she think that will attract clients? Also, the ads with dollar signs and pictures of providers displaying dollars are just as dumb.

White300
10-10-18, 08:08
No winter is NO longer At Serenity!! I can't control her ads. I do have a Manager that is working full time now and.

More girls, soon a "Popular" well known provider will be joining!!Any chance she is blonde😄.

Mag Green
10-10-18, 08:39
I've seen Layla three times in the past month and been highly satisfied each time. Layla is tall, with great legs and a very nice chest. She's clean, well groomed, and easy to talk to, but the most striking thing is how present and engaged she is. Full time was not an issue. She seems genuinely interested in what she does, and has a lot of enthusiasm to go along with top notch skills.What did her rates shake out to be? That is my biggest issue with that place.

Bismark
10-10-18, 09:03
No winter is NO longer At Serenity!! I can't control her ads. I do have a Manager that is working full time now and.

More girls, soon a "Popular" well known provider will be joining!!Thanks for the clarification Hayley!

Bismark
10-10-18, 09:05
I like her email addy. Seems VERY appropriate.Right? I wish her well but I think she's expecting a little much and is a lot too obvious about it.

Blackfire
10-10-18, 09:39
No winter is NO longer At Serenity!! I can't control her ads. I do have a Manager that is working full time now and.

More girls, soon a "Popular" well known provider will be joining!!Will this "manager" cause your rates to go even higher. It's been widely reported that it's $80 hour for a massage that usually isn't even a good massage, then the ladies are expecting another $80 for a basic HE. Maybe you are busy enough at these rates that the girls will want to work there, maybe if you are busy enough at these rates you could charge even more. After all it does make some business sense to charge what the market will bear.

Hayleymatters
10-10-18, 10:05
Will this "manager" cause your rates to go even higher. It's been widely reported that it's $80 hour for a massage that usually isn't even a good massage, then the ladies are expecting another $80 for a basic HE. Maybe you are busy enough at these rates that the girls will want to work there, maybe if you are busy enough at these rates you could charge even more. After all it does make some business sense to charge what the market will bear.Rates will stay the same 80/ hr 50/ hh.

Sorry you feel that's to high.

Included in those rates is a hydro bed and table shower that.

Is finally here just waiting on some.

Permitting issues No extra cost for those services.

Very "clean" safe environment and always running specials.

And complimentary snacks water coffee tea beer and wine.

And all organic high end lotions and oils.

Most important providers that offer great service! This has been.

Hard to find but it's coming along!! Thanks again to all of are many serenity.

Relaxation regulars!

Monger01
10-10-18, 10:31
It is with great joy that I inform you who may not know better that you do not need to pay $160 for an hour massage with he.

There are numerous places you can go and see decent looking and even hot girls for a full one hour massage at 60 door fee and for 40-60 tip they go topless or nude and allow touching. Pacific on 44th and pacific cascade for example but others exist.

Why would you pay extra for the same or less service?

Sadly Blackfire is right. If you keep paying more they will keep charging more.


Will this "manager" cause your rates to go even higher. It's been widely reported that it's $80 hour for a massage that usually isn't even a good massage, then the ladies are expecting another $80 for a basic HE. Maybe you are busy enough at these rates that the girls will want to work there, maybe if you are busy enough at these rates you could charge even more. After all it does make some business sense to charge what the market will bear.

LongAwaited493
10-10-18, 12:23
It is with great joy that I inform you who may not know better that you do not need to pay $160 for an hour massage with he.

There are numerous places you can go and see decent looking and even hot girls for a full one hour massage at 60 door fee and for 40-60 tip they go topless or nude and allow touching. Pacific on 44th and pacific cascade for example but others exist.

Why would you pay extra for the same or less service?

Sadly Blackfire is right. If you keep paying more they will keep charging more.Fortunately for some of us we have the financial funds that $200 not a big deal to us. When I walk in the door they know I tip well and I get the service I want They will even put off one of the regulars when they see me walk in the door Money rules.

Benz1
10-10-18, 12:42
It is with great joy that I inform you who may not know better that you do not need to pay $160 for an hour massage with he.

There are numerous places you can go and see decent looking and even hot girls for a full one hour massage at 60 door fee and for 40-60 tip they go topless or nude and allow touching. Pacific on 44th and pacific cascade for example but others exist.

Why would you pay extra for the same or less service?

Sadly Blackfire is right. If you keep paying more they will keep charging more.Monger01 and Blackfire are both right.

Their theory applies to all providers, MP girls and escorts.

They typically quote their Friday price to everyone everyday I know some escorts that upcharge after 10 pm and get it without hesitation.

Advice for all mongers! Stop Mongering on payday, save your money for a weekday and negotiate.

I have had providers contact me many times during the week asking for a date, price is usually 50% off or less.

MP's are more likely to give you your full hour when their phone is not blowing up on the weekend. Unfortunately it's far more difficult to get info on a MP provider menu until you're in the room and naked hoping for the best. Go in prepared to do it yourself, after negotiating. If you're there on a Friday you will usually be rushed through with no negotiations because they have a line and a quota to meet for their busiest day of the week. That's why I never monger Thursday (payday for some), Friday or Saturday.

Love The Lips
10-10-18, 12:58
Fortunately for some of us we have the financial funds that $200 not a big deal to us. When I walk in the door they know I tip well and I get the service I want They will even put off one of the regulars when they see me walk in the door Money rules.My guess is that this new poster may be a parlor attendant but if not, you are surely one of those that the girls laugh at for paying $200 for a probably mediocre massage and a HJ.

Benz1
10-10-18, 13:15
Rates will stay the same 80/ hr 50/ hh.

Sorry you feel that's to high.

Included in those rates is a hydro bed and table shower that.

Is finally here just waiting on some.

Permitting issues No extra cost for those services.

Very "clean" safe environment and always running specials.

And complimentary snacks water coffee tea beer and wine.

And all organic high end lotions and oils.

Most important providers that offer great service! This has been.

Hard to find but it's coming along!! Thanks again to all of are many serenity.

Relaxation regulars!The hydro bed was truly unique and the intensity is adjustable. Definitely worth checking out. Hayley handed me the dail for adjustments and it took a couple of minutes to find the right spot, it can put you to sleep.

Haven't checked out the beer and wine menu because I don't drink alcohol.

The coffee is great, Always served with a smile.

Serenity has been a cool place to visit, occasionally I call ahead and tell them to put the coffee on. It is a relaxation station and often very fun place for me. I will repeat.

Bismark
10-10-18, 13:23
Fortunately for some of us we have the financial funds that $200 not a big deal to us. When I walk in the door they know I tip well and I get the service I want They will even put off one of the regulars when they see me walk in the door Money rules.To a point, you are right. However only to a point. I know some massage providers that appreciate a regular and the income that brings and act accordingly. I know some that will squeeze every penny out of each encounter with as little effort as possible and likely hardly see customers more than once. Naturally, there are providers who fall in between those extremes.

That said, if there are providers who will "put off a regular when they see" you walk in, I'd sure like to know who these women are. In case I am one of their regulars, I'd like to adjust my habits.

What you are describing is the sort of penny-wise, pound-foolish business practices that drive good customers away and make room for all sorts of unfortunate attitudes and hassles. I can promise you and anyone who might be paying attention if I find I am being shoved aside by some walking wallet, it will be the last $120 - $160 that provider gets from me and I don't care what she'll do when the door closes. Do it enough and she'd better hope that your $200 is enough for the week as I'm fairly certain I'm not alone.

Pete3854
10-10-18, 13:25
Fortunately for some of us we have the financial funds that $200 not a big deal to us. When I walk in the door they know I tip well and I get the service I want They will even put off one of the regulars when they see me walk in the door Money rules.Really? That's good to know they will cancel an appointment for a few extra bucks. Cancel on me and I won't come back.

Monger01
10-10-18, 13:30
Just like our escort thread, a prolific monger posts a bad review and by crazy coincidence a new poster posts a first ever post countering it.
We are not that stupid.
But sure, if dropping double the going rate works for you its your money.
And I give Haley credit for posting details in response. And don't blame them for trying if they can hold those rates. I won't pay them but all the big spenders can of course.


Fortunately for some of us we have the financial funds that $200 not a big deal to us. When I walk in the door they know I tip well and I get the service I want They will even put off one of the regulars when they see me walk in the door Money rules.

Love The Lips
10-10-18, 14:44
Rates will stay the same 80/ hr 50/ hh.

Sorry you feel that's to high.

Included in those rates is a hydro bed and table shower that.

Is finally here just waiting on some.

Permitting issues No extra cost for those services.

Very "clean" safe environment and always running specials.

And complimentary snacks water coffee tea beer and wine.

And all organic high end lotions and oils.

Most important providers that offer great service! This has been.

Hard to find but it's coming along!! Thanks again to all of are many serenity.

Relaxation regulars!Thanks for clearing things up Haley. Your rates don't sound bad if they include the Hydro bed and table shower. It sounds like you are trying to do things the right way now and I applaud that. The mistake that some make is discussing tips in the room, that is such a buzz kill! I mean who tips a waitress before the meal without knowing how good the service will be? The girls that do the best and get crazy business are the ones that NEVER discuss tips or try to hide it by calling the appointment an "Exotic session", etc. Just give a nice fun session and we will tip accordingly! One of my favorites is of course Natasha at Panacea. She has never, ever discussed a tip amount and she makes money hand over fist by giving great service and sees the value in repeat customers.

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10-10-18, 14:55
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FishingForSome
10-10-18, 15:02
Had the opportunity to finally see Amyna after trying to schedule with her the past few days. Communication was great via text and she was really accomadating with her scheduling as my schedule can be very inconsistent. She was running about 20 minutes late due to other clients showing up late. My day was open so I was happy to wait for her. Amyna, is a super sweet girl and was very appreciative of my patience. I booked an hour with her, but actually received closer to 1. 5 hours (I was her last client). She is nice to look at and her attitude is even better. She is enjoyable to talk to and has a really cute laugh. The massage is actually really good. She used medium pressure and ended with some light touch with her fingernails that gave me goosebumps. Tickle teasing is awesome. The flip was great. She's my favorite so far and will be back to see her. Damage was 60/60. Stay safe. JTK.My absolute go to whenever I am in GR. Couldn't agree more.

Hayleymatters
10-10-18, 15:38
Thanks for clearing things up Haley. Your rates don't sound bad if they include the Hydro bed and table shower. It sounds like you are trying to do things the right way now and I applaud that. The mistake that some make is discussing tips in the room, that is such a buzz kill! I mean who tips a waitress before the meal without knowing how good the service will be? The girls that do the best and get crazy business are the ones that NEVER discuss tips or try to hide it by calling the appointment an "Exotic session", etc. Just give a nice fun session and we will tip accordingly! One of my favorites is of course Natasha at Panacea. She has never, ever discussed a tip amount and she makes money hand over fist by giving great service and sees the value in repeat customers.Yes I agree with you on that! Once that session starts and door is shut I can't do much or monitor what a provider does, but these reviews from you mongers does help and like I said I'm trying and learning a lot!

RichieGR
10-10-18, 15:52
Stopped without an appointment and drew a new girl. Paid 80 for an hour. Started ok, then about 15 into it she says "I'm going to step out and you can turn over and leave my tip on the desk". Thinking this is different but oh well I leave 100 on the table. She returns and starts a half assed HJ. I ask for at least nude she says no. Ok, how about top off, she takes off shirt and continues in her bra. I ask again and it comes off. That's it, I'm out in 25 minutes. Taking that place off the list.UPDATE; Hayley contacted me and has offered me o make it right. I will report back.

Toes63
10-10-18, 18:29
All's Hayley has to do to keep business coming in is make sure her providers are doing the best job they can and treat the clients right unlike Winter did. It is all word of mouth. It seems to me that the market is getting pretty saturated with STG and City that pretty much all these providers can ask for whatever $$$ they want. Keep up the Great work Hayley " YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME".

Randy2018
10-10-18, 18:49
I got the hour rate hayley posted. Felt worth it.


What did her rates shake out to be? That is my biggest issue with that place.

Donntee
10-11-18, 07:22
I got the hour rate hayley posted. Felt worth it.?? Tip? What was the upsell?

JohnSolo
10-11-18, 12:27
I've seen Tasha and she's amazing. However she's often booked so when I can't get into see her do you guys recommend any of the above three?

Blackfire
10-11-18, 15:56
I got the hour rate hayley posted. Felt worth it.Probably a Waste of time to question "randy" on serenity. My experience over the years is a new poster who makes his FIRST post to talk about a good 3 experiences in the last month with a particular provider, in the middle of numerous posts about how lousy the place she works at is and how the service has gone down and the costs have gone up, is not likely to help anyone on this board out. Many, like my jaded self, will see right past charade. Makes me trust the place even less! And of course, this "guy" will not really talk in any kind of specific about service or tip now, will "he".

Monger01
10-11-18, 16:04
Yep my thoughts exactly. Look through this and previous page. All positive comments are 1-3 posts members. All seniors pointing out price and service issues. If I were them I'd make damn sure RichieGR leaves happy since he'll be the only senior posting soon and most of us will at least believe his report.


Probably a Waste of time to question "randy" on serenity. My experience over the years is a new poster who makes his FIRST post to talk about a good 3 experiences in the last month with a particular provider, in the middle of numerous posts about how lousy the place she works at is and how the service has gone down and the costs have gone up, is not likely to help anyone on this board out. Many, like my jaded self, will see right past charade. Makes me trust the place even less! And of course, this "guy" will not really talk in any kind of specific about service or tip now, will "he".

LongAwaited493
10-11-18, 18:23
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Randy2018
10-11-18, 18:57
I assure you I'm real, and a happy customer.

Consider the possibility that "some people had negative experiences" AND "those problems were with a different provider, and they've fired her" could BOTH be true!

In the past I've visited panacea occasionally but went looking for a new place recently. (Nothing against panacea, was just looking for a change of pace and something closer to home). That search led me to serenity but also here where I've been watching as a guest for awhile. So far I've found this board very informative and useful but my humble suggestion would be that maybe serenity realized they had a problem and are working on it, and those efforts have produced some happy customers.

I signed up just to offer a different pov. I have no idea who winter is. I recognize haley from serenity office but haven't dealt with her at all other than being offered a bottle of water on my way in. All I know is that I had a great visit with Layla, and thought that might be useful information. I'd dm more with a senior member but not ready to throw too many details on the board. Thanks.


Probably a Waste of time to question "randy" on serenity. My experience over the years is a new poster who makes his FIRST post to talk about a good 3 experiences in the last month with a particular provider, in the middle of numerous posts about how lousy the place she works at is and how the service has gone down and the costs have gone up, is not likely to help anyone on this board out. Many, like my jaded self, will see right past charade. Makes me trust the place even less! And of course, this "guy" will not really talk in any kind of specific about service or tip now, will "he".

LongAwaited493
10-11-18, 19:31
My guess is that this new poster may be a parlor attendant but if not, you are surely one of those that the girls laugh at for paying $200 for a probably mediocre massage and a HJ.Why are you guys getting so bent out of shape about what another guy is willing to pay for good service.

Admin2
10-11-18, 23:21
Probably a Waste of time to question "randy" on serenity. My experience over the years is a new poster who makes his FIRST post to talk about a good 3 experiences in the last month with a particular provider, in the middle of numerous posts about how lousy the place she works at is and how the service has gone down and the costs have gone up, is not likely to help anyone on this board out. Many, like my jaded self, will see right past charade. Makes me trust the place even less! And of course, this "guy" will not really talk in any kind of specific about service or tip now, will "he".


Yep my thoughts exactly. Look through this and previous page. All positive comments are 1-3 posts members. All seniors pointing out price and service issues. If I were them I'd make damn sure RichieGR leaves happy since he'll be the only senior posting soon and most of us will at least believe his report.Why must you guys do this? Everybody can see that they have one post, everybody can see that the other senior posted something different.

You're probably right, AND if you just left them alone they would go away but now, they have to answer, then you will answer, then they retort and then I gotta clean it up.

Just ignore them and save me time.

A2

Jayce Dragon
10-12-18, 13:51
Just don't go to the place if you know its bad it won't get better no time soon. Go to places that aint so high in price or whatever. When their customers numbers get low they'll usually adjust or fail all together.

Hayleymatters
10-12-18, 15:49
Just don't go to the place if you know its bad it won't get better no time soon. Go to places that aint so high in price or whatever. When their customers numbers get low they'll usually adjust or fail all together.Acuallly in the process of opening up 2 more locations Never will "Fail"!

Bismark
10-12-18, 17:11
Why are you guys getting so bent out of shape about what another guy is willing to pay for good service.It's not so much the amount (for me at least). It's the way it was presented. If I want to hear from someone who knows every damn thing and is unappologetically cocky about it, I have perfectly good teenagers at home to talk to.

Bismark
10-12-18, 17:12
I've seen Tasha and she's amazing. However she's often booked so when I can't get into see her do you guys recommend any of the above three?I've not seen either but Natasha suggested Kelly to me when I mentioned I sometimes can't get in to see her. I take her suggestion pretty seriously.

HuggableGuy
10-12-18, 20:53
Acuallly in the process of opening up 2 more locations Never will "Fail"!Hopefully closer to Kzoo!

MattParty12
10-13-18, 08:33
Hi everyone, any suggestions closer to grandville? Could be individual or a mp. I enjoy Pacific on 44th and 28th, but its way out of the way. Thank you in advance.

Benz1
10-13-18, 16:39
Lilliana will prioritize if you have a password.

Password for senior members only.

Having an AARP card does not qualify you as a senior member of this forum.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/latin/massage-by-lilliana/049911542509

Monger01
10-13-18, 16:47
If you'd prefer just a BBBJCIM Breezie is currently in that area but she has no incall. Can't comment on her massage. See escorts thread for link and reviews.


Hi everyone, any suggestions closer to grandville? Could be individual or a mp. I enjoy Pacific on 44th and 28th, but its way out of the way. Thank you in advance.

DjBiker
10-14-18, 08:07
Acuallly in the process of opening up 2 more locations Never will "Fail"!While its great your opening two more spots meaning the mongers are paying you well, but they obviously have a issue going on and that's all I believe they were stating, not the fact that shoving your opening two new spots in their face I think they were looking for a solution to their question, good luck on your new places.

SweetHemiStud
10-14-18, 08:53
Well, you will never regret seeing Natasha at Panacea. She works Thurs. Call at 10 am but don't expect to get in to see her before 11:30 even then.

Aliese is also very good. She's pseudo independent. She advertises on usaadultclassifieds. Nl and works out of an incall in Holland or Royal in GR depending on your needs. I find texting her number works best.

Serenity on Plainfield in GR has gotten rave reviews since Hayley took it over. I've seen Hayley and, while the stars didn't exactly align for me, I can see why she's popular. She's enthusiatic (to the point of bruises) and if that's your thing, there's probably no one better. I think they are running pretty well for walk-ins but I am sure appointments can be made.

Mia at Healthy Habits is a wild ride with great big breasts. A little spendy perhaps though.

Emily at MBD was fun for me. She's good looking and gives a good rub and a great tug.

Hope that helps! You can find most of these on usaadultclassifieds. Nl most days. I haven't seen Mia post much lately but I haven't been watching skipthegames.com or cityxguide.com real closely and she may be posting there.I concur about Emily. I see her quite regularly over last couple years. Once she gets to know you she's quite accommodating. She has said on many occasions to me. "You're lucky I like you" or "You're about the only one I'd do this for" when I have scheduling / availability issues, etc.

SweetHemiStud
10-14-18, 09:26
Won't be going back there again.

Stopped in for a massage. Door was $. 40 for HH, as usual. Brought to the room and told to leave a tip on the table for my MT. That's a little weird right there. I don't tip my waitress until after the service is done. Why tip before this is done?

I put down another $. 60. (I always take $1. 00 with me and split it the same way, never had an issue). The girl that came in was not real attractive. Not a bbw, but did have a big gut. She took off her top before starting on my back massage. She asked if I like soft or medium pressure. I told her it was up to her, I'm good with either. She liked that, it makes it easier. Lame Massage! Almost no movement. Her hands were seriously almost standing still. Only 5 minutes in she said to go ahead and flip. I'd kind of like a 'massage' with my massage too. She immediately went to work on Big Jim & the twins. Now we're 6 minutes in. She asked for a larger tip already. I jokingly said something about slowing down a little bit or my massage will be over way before my 30 minutes are up. She gave me a pissed off look and told me to flip back over and she'd massage my back. Now she wanted more tip to do both a massage and a HE. It was one or the other, Not Both! I flipped back over, she went back to work on the boys. Now I'm annoyed and nothing is happening. She wouldn't allow me to touch her, even though she had her top removed. We finally decided that this wasn't working and I got up. Terrible Personality! I would NEVER go to see her again and probably won't go back there. She called me a clock watcher, LOL. I'd like my 30 minutes to last 30 minutes. I always bring $1. 00 with me, everywhere I go, I've NEVER had an issue like this greedy woman. If we click, I'll bring more next time.



I know this was not Anna, Chloe or Meghan. I'm not sure what this girls name is. Heavier girl, kind of ratty, dirty blonde, not a very attractive face either.I've had a few similar experiences there with a few different girls. I always go for an hour, because I want a good massage first and foremost, I can rub one out myself if need be, can't rub my own back. But at least 2-3 times I was in and out in 30 min or slightly less, after paying for an hour. One girl, who I believe is no longer there even chased me out the door asking if I planned on leaving her anything. Eff no, not for 20-25 min from time I walked into room to the time I walked out, which included undressing, dressing, and not to mention it took her several minutes to come in when I was laying there and ready. I have no problem paying when I get what I asked for. But to throw me out with less than half of the requested time, that extra money paid without service received is the tip.

SweetHemiStud
10-14-18, 09:37
I went there once got a half assed massage and lame ending from Lexi. I said I'd never go back and haven't.I've heard a lot of both ways about Lexi, more good than bad, but enough bad to make me skeptical. I finally tried her last month, she has the shape of eyes that drive me wild, so I took the risk. She is at Touch of Paradise now. I was quite pleased, so she either got a lot better, or maybe she was just having a bad day during your experience. The massage was great, and that is the important part to me. Ending is always nice, but that is somethign I can do myself if need be.

SweetHemiStud
10-14-18, 09:44
I don't post often, but had another fabulous appointment with Amy this week! Not much more that can be said that hasn't already, she was a TINY bit late getting there but more than made it up, very hot, just the build that makes me almost drool! Half hour, payed door plus tip and a little extra, she went way over on time. Great massage and awesome flip, topless, and topshelf.I've been watching Amyna for some time too, I've been wanting to give her a try, reached out a couple different times and never got a reply. Still want to try her out though.

SweetHemiStud
10-14-18, 09:56
I saw Lexi about a year ago. Is she still working there? My experience with her was good then.She is now at Touch of Paradise, just saw her before labor day. I too had a wonderful experience with her.

SweetHemiStud
10-14-18, 10:27
Does anyone know of an AMP in the area that does back walks? (Some places actually have bars on the ceiling for it).Blessings on Fuller does. I've been there a couple times with no HE. And according to some readings here, that is normal. But the massage was quite good every time.

SweetHemiStud
10-14-18, 10:48
I haven't been to MBD. Just a couple questions if anyone has time to respond.

1. Phone number.

2. 30 and 60 min appointments?

3. Prices.

4. Can you walkin or appointment only?

5. Showers?

Thanks to everyone who shares here.

Happy hunting.No shower, I have always made appt (hr) with Emily quite regularly over last 2 yrs. WONDERFUL! I never tried for extras besides HE. I think it is now appt only as she told me business has been a little slow and they all got regular jobs. I was just there on Friday and they had the girls' phone numbers posted on the back door.

SweetHemiStud
10-14-18, 15:50
I saw her a few months back and spent WAY too much for what I got. It wouldn't have been so bad, except the upsells were distracting from my relaxation. First I requested an hour via text, she told me the approx location and said to call when close. I did, and that's where the upsells started. Asked if "I wanted 4 hands it's only. 8" I agreed just to try the experience. I kinda figured that sounded like HH. . 4 each. But I specified HR in a very recent text, so let it go, thinking she'd know. I was wrong, they started the massage and literally a few minutes in, the upsells started even more. "what kind of fun can we have tonight?" while they were touching suggestively. They kept asking what I wanted, and I just asked, how much do you need to show a good time? She said, 1. 2 each and they'll show me the moon. I was just like whatever and agreed, but said I only have X cash on me. They suggested their atm, so they had me dress, go out to my vehicle to get my wallet (I never carry it in anywhere as I feel my cards could be swiped while I am not focused and just carry in what I intend to spend) I got out more cash for them and they worked on me for a few more minutes, allowing me to roam and FIV on the other girl who was down to pretty much a 2 pc bathing suit, but Saisha stayed pretty much fully dressed. Then rubbed the area and asked if I'd like to try prostate play, I again, agreed. To which they asked for another 1. 2 each. And said they'd just bring in the card reader so I didn't have to get dressed again. And of course, even that was an upsell, at $1 per every $10. So the math adds up to very close to 6 $ of nothing but distraction from upsells, a few minutes of actual massage, and a barely satisfying HE that I had to force out because I was just so irritated about the upselling distractions. Didn't care much about the money, but just wish they could have focused on me more than upselling. Plus she texts every so often asking when I am going to see her again, and I keep playing back telling her I am working out of town, etc and as soon as I am back in town, and have time after other responsibilities I'll give her a shout. Just to give her hope that I'll come back in and drop that much again. Just thought I should share my experience.

https://grandrapids.rubratings.com/116165

MichiganMan686
10-14-18, 16:42
No shower, I have always made appt (hr) with Emily quite regularly over last 2 yrs. WONDERFUL! I never tried for extras besides HE. I think it is now appt only as she told me business has been a little slow and they all got regular jobs. I was just there on Friday and they had the girls' phone numbers posted on the back door.Thanks for taking the time to respond. I appreciate it.

SweetHemiStud
10-14-18, 18:11
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I appreciate it.No problem, as I read on I noticed most of what I had said was already answered. But in a situation like this, hearing it multiple times probably eases the thoguhts of YMMV.

Guitar Man
10-14-18, 19:42
Blessings on Fuller does. I've been there a couple times with no HE. And according to some readings here, that is normal. But the massage was quite good every time.I agree that Blessings does a great massage and so does Lotus Flower on Burton and they too have the bars on top to walk on your back, great massage.

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10-14-18, 22:56
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Love The Lips
10-15-18, 01:50
I saw her a few months back and spent WAY too much for what I got. It wouldn't have been so bad, except the upsells were distracting from my relaxation. First I requested an hour via text, she told me the approx location and said to call when close. I did, and that's where the upsells started. Asked if "I wanted 4 hands it's only. 8" I agreed just to try the experience. I kinda figured that sounded like HH. . 4 each. But I specified HR in a very recent text, so let it go, thinking she'd know. I was wrong, they started the massage and literally a few minutes in, the upsells started even more. "what kind of fun can we have tonight?" while they were touching suggestively. They kept asking what I wanted, and I just asked, how much do you need to show a good time? She said, 1. 2 each and they'll show me the moon. I was just like whatever and agreed, but said I only have X cash on me. They suggested their atm, so they had me dress, go out to my vehicle to get my wallet (I never carry it in anywhere as I feel my cards could be swiped while I am not focused and just carry in what I intend to spend) I got out more cash for them and they worked on me for a few more minutes, allowing me to roam and FIV on the other girl who was down to pretty much a 2 pc bathing suit, but Saisha stayed pretty much fully dressed. Then rubbed the area and asked if I'd like to try prostate play, I again, agreed. To which they asked for another 1. 2 each. And said they'd just bring in the card reader so I didn't have to get dressed again. And of course, even that was an upsell, at $1 per every $10. So the math adds up to very close to 6 $ of nothing but distraction from upsells, a few minutes of actual massage, and a barely satisfying HE that I had to force out because I was just so irritated about the upselling distractions. Didn't care much about the money, but just wish they could have focused on me more than upselling. Plus she texts every so often asking when I am going to see her again, and I keep playing back telling her I am working out of town, etc and as soon as I am back in town, and have time after other responsibilities I'll give her a shout. Just to give her hope that I'll come back in and drop that much again. Just thought I should share my experience.

https://grandrapids.rubratings.com/116165Uh, I have no words for this one.

SweetHemiStud
10-15-18, 04:24
Uh, I have no words for this one.Yeah, me either. I felt kinda stupid at a point, but decided it'd be worse to lay down as much as I did and get nothing by walking out, or just spend a little more and at least get off for the money I gave. Her lose, really, if they weren't so greedy, I woulda been a repeat customer and paid them much more than that. Instead she wanted to milk what she could for the first time seeing me. I'm half tempted to go back and get JUST the 30 min massage at the door price only, no HE, no nothing, just to make her feel like her time was wasted after so much anticipation.

Love The Lips
10-15-18, 09:04
I agree that Blessings does a great massage and so does Lotus Flower on Burton and they too have the bars on top to walk on your back, great massage.Does Blessings and Lotus Flower include an HE?

Monger01
10-15-18, 09:06
Wow! What NOT to do at a MP. No shock she's texting you to return.


I saw her a few months back and spent WAY too much for what I got. It wouldn't have been so bad, except the upsells were distracting from my relaxation. First I requested an hour via text, she told me the approx location and said to call when close. I did, and that's where the upsells started. Asked if "I wanted 4 hands it's only. 8" I agreed just to try the experience. I kinda figured that sounded like HH. . 4 each. But I specified HR in a very recent text, so let it go, thinking she'd know. I was wrong, they started the massage and literally a few minutes in, the upsells started even more. "what kind of fun can we have tonight?" while they were touching suggestively. They kept asking what I wanted, and I just asked, how much do you need to show a good time? She said, 1. 2 each and they'll show me the moon. I was just like whatever and agreed, but said I only have X cash on me. They suggested their atm, so they had me dress, go out to my vehicle to get my wallet (I never carry it in anywhere as I feel my cards could be swiped while I am not focused and just carry in what I intend to spend) I got out more cash for them and they worked on me for a few more minutes, allowing me to roam and FIV on the other girl who was down to pretty much a 2 pc bathing suit, but Saisha stayed pretty much fully dressed. Then rubbed the area and asked if I'd like to try prostate play, I again, agreed. To which they asked for another 1. 2 each. And said they'd just bring in the card reader so I didn't have to get dressed again. And of course, even that was an upsell, at $1 per every $10. So the math adds up to very close to 6 $ of nothing but distraction from upsells, a few minutes of actual massage, and a barely satisfying HE that I had to force out because I was just so irritated about the upselling distractions. Didn't care much about the money, but just wish they could have focused on me more than upselling. Plus she texts every so often asking when I am going to see her again, and I keep playing back telling her I am working out of town, etc and as soon as I am back in town, and have time after other responsibilities I'll give her a shout. Just to give her hope that I'll come back in and drop that much again. Just thought I should share my experience.

https://grandrapids.rubratings.com/116165

Otto22
10-15-18, 09:30
I saw her a few months back and spent WAY too much for what I got. It wouldn't have been so bad, except the upsells were distracting from my relaxation. First I requested an hour via text, she told me the approx location and said to call when close. I did, and that's where the upsells started. Asked if "I wanted 4 hands it's only. 8" I agreed just to try the experience. I kinda figured that sounded like HH. . 4 each. But I specified HR in a very recent text, so let it go, thinking she'd know. I was wrong, they started the massage and literally a few minutes in, the upsells started even more. "what kind of fun can we have tonight?" while they were touching suggestively. They kept asking what I wanted, and I just asked, how much do you need to show a good time? She said, 1. 2 each and they'll show me the moon. I was just like whatever and agreed, but said I only have X cash on me. They suggested their atm, so they had me dress, go out to my vehicle to get my wallet (I never carry it in anywhere as I feel my cards could be swiped while I am not focused and just carry in what I intend to spend) I got out more cash for them and they worked on me for a few more minutes, allowing me to roam and FIV on the other girl who was down to pretty much a 2 pc bathing suit, but Saisha stayed pretty much fully dressed. Then rubbed the area and asked if I'd like to try prostate play, I again, agreed. To which they asked for another 1. 2 each. And said they'd just bring in the card reader so I didn't have to get dressed again. And of course, even that was an upsell, at $1 per every $10. So the math adds up to very close to 6 $ of nothing but distraction from upsells, a few minutes of actual massage, and a barely satisfying HE that I had to force out because I was just so irritated about the upselling distractions. Didn't care much about the money, but just wish they could have focused on me more than upselling. Plus she texts every so often asking when I am going to see her again, and I keep playing back telling her I am working out of town, etc and as soon as I am back in town, and have time after other responsibilities I'll give her a shout. Just to give her hope that I'll come back in and drop that much again. Just thought I should share my experience.

https://grandrapids.rubratings.com/116165Wow! Just Wow!

Mystry12
10-15-18, 12:33
Good morning.

Been in the mood for a good NURU and wondered if anyone had any experience with Jezibel at http://www.jezenuru.com/.

Looks like it might be legit and promising at the same time.

Also does anyone know if Brooke is offering them again since she re-entered the game? I never was able to enjoy, but understand hers were legendary.

Edge 1201
10-15-18, 12:47
Has anybody visited Paula? I see her postings all over but not a lot of comments.

https://grandrapids.rubratings.com/116546

Haazzee
10-15-18, 13:50
First time posting, but I've been reading your posts for months- thanks for everyone's input. Definitely learned a lot of what to do and what not to do.

Just wanted to make a quick plug for this provider. I've been seeing her regularly for over a year. If you're looking for a real good massage in a relaxing environment with a very pleasant and caring person then give her a shout. She works M-Sat in the morning and early afternoon, which works for my schedule, but not for most I assume.

Benz1
10-15-18, 14:31
Wow! What NOT to do at a MP. No shock she's texting you to return.Looks Like Saisha and Relaxation Station are next on the Whipping Post.
Maybe we should rename them, Upsell City!

Bismark
10-15-18, 15:10
I saw her a few months back and spent WAY too much for what I got. It wouldn't have been so bad, except the upsells were distracting from my relaxation. First I requested an hour via text, she told me the approx location and said to call when close. I did, and that's where the upsells started. Asked if "I wanted 4 hands it's only. 8" I agreed just to try the experience. I kinda figured that sounded like HH. . 4 each. But I specified HR in a very recent text, so let it go, thinking she'd know. I was wrong, they started the massage and literally a few minutes in, the upsells started even more. "what kind of fun can we have tonight?" while they were touching suggestively. They kept asking what I wanted, and I just asked, how much do you need to show a good time? She said, 1. 2 each and they'll show me the moon. I was just like whatever and agreed, but said I only have X cash on me. They suggested their atm, so they had me dress, go out to my vehicle to get my wallet (I never carry it in anywhere as I feel my cards could be swiped while I am not focused and just carry in what I intend to spend) I got out more cash for them and they worked on me for a few more minutes, allowing me to roam and FIV on the other girl who was down to pretty much a 2 pc bathing suit, but Saisha stayed pretty much fully dressed. Then rubbed the area and asked if I'd like to try prostate play, I again, agreed. To which they asked for another 1. 2 each. And said they'd just bring in the card reader so I didn't have to get dressed again. And of course, even that was an upsell, at $1 per every $10. So the math adds up to very close to 6 $ of nothing but distraction from upsells, a few minutes of actual massage, and a barely satisfying HE that I had to force out because I was just so irritated about the upselling distractions. Didn't care much about the money, but just wish they could have focused on me more than upselling. Plus she texts every so often asking when I am going to see her again, and I keep playing back telling her I am working out of town, etc and as soon as I am back in town, and have time after other responsibilities I'll give her a shout. Just to give her hope that I'll come back in and drop that much again. Just thought I should share my experience.

https://grandrapids.rubratings.com/116165Boy, I've been here (though not to the tune of six bills thankfully). Especially the part about leaving the wallet in the car. I do the same thing more to avoid being tempted to hit the ATM in the heat of the moment.

On the old boards, way back when and through the years, stories like this were pinned to the top of one or more sections as cautionary tales. Though this doesn't include a rented car and a co-signed lease, it is still a good cautionary tale. Perhaps this should be pinned at the top of the massage section.

Jaynna
10-15-18, 15:11
No shower, I have always made appt (hr) with Emily quite regularly over last 2 yrs. WONDERFUL! I never tried for extras besides HE. I think it is now appt only as she told me business has been a little slow and they all got regular jobs. I was just there on Friday and they had the girls' phone numbers posted on the back door.Hello,

MBD is NOT by appt only, I would rather say. If you see the specific therapist post an ad, it's safe to assume that particular therapist IS AVAILABLE that day.

We all do have additional jobs, so our schedules vary according to keeping regular hours. Someone, maybe all 3 are available 7 days a week!!

The phone numbers are posted BOTH at the front door as well as the rear door!

We appreciate your business, as always!!

Looking forward to seeing you!!

Di.

NoseJelly
10-15-18, 18:21
Looks Like Saisha and Relaxation Station are next on the Whipping Post.
Maybe we should rename them, Upsell City!Professor Benz is on to something. Oasis / Relaxation Station has been an upsell clip joint for many years. Thats why using the search thread function or asking someone first is a Monger's best friend!

Haazzee
10-15-18, 19:58
First post for me, but I've been reading your posts for months now. Thanks for everyone's sharing. I've learned a lot about how to and how NOT to handle the MP experience.

I've been visiting Amanda at Touch of Paradise for over a year now and been very pleased with the experience. I highly recommend her. She may not offer much of a menu, but her massage is consistently on point and does a good job with the build up to the finish. She's also very easy going and talks just enough but not too much. She also isn't a clock watcher, which makes it much more enjoyable. I leave relaxed every time. . 6 for an hr + . 4-. 6 tip.

I'm interested in expanding my providers to include those who get comfy and allow roaming, but I don't have the $ nor the time to waste on a bunch of exploration. Anyone have some specific providers who give service like Amanda, but with more on the menu? If so please PM me. Thanks again.

Haazzee
10-15-18, 20:08
I've not been to either Pacific location, but sounds like it's worth checking out. I've seen Amanda at Paradise for my monthly massage for about a year or so now and am very satisfied but would like a provider who has a deeper menu. Anyone specific from pacific you'd recommend? Thanks.


It is with great joy that I inform you who may not know better that you do not need to pay $160 for an hour massage with he.

There are numerous places you can go and see decent looking and even hot girls for a full one hour massage at 60 door fee and for 40-60 tip they go topless or nude and allow touching. Pacific on 44th and pacific cascade for example but others exist.

Why would you pay extra for the same or less service?

Sadly Blackfire is right. If you keep paying more they will keep charging more.

Benz1
10-15-18, 21:09
Boy, I've been here (though not to the tune of six bills thankfully). Especially the part about leaving the wallet in the car. I do the same thing more to avoid being tempted to hit the ATM in the heat of the moment.

On the old boards, way back when and through the years, stories like this were pinned to the top of one or more sections as cautionary tales. Though this doesn't include a rented car and a co-signed lease, it is still a good cautionary tale. Perhaps this should be pinned at the top of the massage section.Maybe it should be added to the Ripoff thread, It was a upsell ripoff by most our standards. The old Classic maneuver of holding your dick in hand while upselling.

I always give the dick in hand upsell chick a surprise. Do it myself and aim for her eye.

Jayce Dragon
10-15-18, 21:48
Wow! What NOT to do at a MP. No shock she's texting you to return. Dude practically paid her rent or car note in one session. LOL when they start texting you, that means business is bad or you became their cash register.

Guitar Man
10-16-18, 03:50
Does Blessings and Lotus Flower include an HE?They do not just a great massage especially Lotus Flower on Burton.

GRJack
10-16-18, 06:53
Good morning.

Been in the mood for a good NURU and wondered if anyone had any experience with Jezibel at http://www.jezenuru.com/.

Looks like it might be legit and promising at the same time.

Also does anyone know if Brooke is offering them again since she re-entered the game? I never was able to enjoy, but understand hers were legendary.I've seen Brooke I think 5 times, I never got the Nuru. She promised, but never delivered. It always depended on her mood. Sometimes she was great, a couple of times she was in a rush and it wasn't so great. She would tell me the she would see me for X in the future, and then complain when that's what I brought the next time. The last time I saw her wasn't good. I think I can find better, more consistent ways to spend my limited funds.

Monger01
10-16-18, 08:44
Call and schedule to see Nina at 44th location. And for God sakes don't tip 100 for HE! 40-60 for nude and roaming. Only more if you get more than that.


I've not been to either Pacific location, but sounds like it's worth checking out. I've seen Amanda at Paradise for my monthly massage for about a year or so now and am very satisfied but would like a provider who has a deeper menu. Anyone specific from pacific you'd recommend? Thanks.

Bloozer
10-16-18, 10:40
Good morning.

Been in the mood for a good NURU and wondered if anyone had any experience with Jezibel at http://www.jezenuru.com/.

Looks like it might be legit and promising at the same time.

Also does anyone know if Brooke is offering them again since she re-entered the game? I never was able to enjoy, but understand hers were legendary.That's Bee's Nuru. She must've changed her name for whatever reason.

HungryForIt
10-16-18, 13:49
Had the good fortune of seeing Di at MBD yesterday. Great conversationalist, a great massage, and a great ending! What more could you ask for. She could have spent a little more time on the nuru-- I like feeling her rub up and down my body. But overall it was a great time and I didn't feel rushed at all. Will definitely repeat-- if she lets me!

Benz1
10-16-18, 16:04
Lilliana will prioritize if you have a password.

Password for senior members only.

Having an AARP card does not qualify you as a senior member of this forum.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/latin/massage-by-lilliana/049911542509Lilliana has been having phone troubles, I sent a new number to all who have requested her info. If you did not receive it PM me.

Just trying to help.

Benz1.

Love Massage
10-16-18, 16:43
Lilliana has been having phone troubles, I sent a new number to all who have requested her info. If you did not receive it PM me.

Just trying to help.

Benz1.Mr. Benz1, your mailbox is full if anybody else out there has her number please PM me and where does she work thanks so much.

Bismark
10-16-18, 16:59
Professor Benz is on to something. Oasis / Relaxation Station has been an upsell clip joint for many years. Thats why using the search thread function or asking someone first is a Monger's best friend!And to think it began with Mystic in response to upsell joints. I remember many had high hopes when Jennifer and Cindy opened that place.

Mystry12
10-16-18, 22:35
That's Bee's Nuru. She must've changed her name for whatever reason.Thanks for the info. I did a search and didn't find any helpful results. Then again, the advanced search did not seem to filter out based on my selection criteria.

So would you suggest it would be worth my time? Any other info would be appreciated.

Bloozer
10-17-18, 05:19
Thanks for the info. I did a search and didn't find any helpful results. Then again, the advanced search did not seem to filter out based on my selection criteria.

So would you suggest it would be worth my time? Any other info would be appreciated.My visit with her was a very pleasant dream. She aims to please.

Mongerlian
10-17-18, 07:09
First post for me, but I've been reading your posts for months now. Thanks for everyone's sharing. I've learned a lot about how to and how NOT to handle the MP experience.

I've been visiting Amanda at Touch of Paradise for over a year now and been very pleased with the experience. I highly recommend her. She may not offer much of a menu, but her massage is consistently on point and does a good job with the build up to the finish. She's also very easy going and talks just enough but not too much. She also isn't a clock watcher, which makes it much more enjoyable. I leave relaxed every time. . 6 for an hr + . 4-. 6 tip.

I'm interested in expanding my providers to include those who get comfy and allow roaming, but I don't have the $ nor the time to waste on a bunch of exploration. Anyone have some specific providers who give service like Amanda, but with more on the menu? If so please PM me. Thanks again.I'm not remotely shocked you've gotten taken for $. 2 at touch of paradise for practically nothing. Anytime I've tried it, it's massive upsell for something like taking a top off and a terrible massage. I can always recommend sweet Megan. Though I haven't seen her in a while, she's not been returning my messages. I'm not quite sure why, as I was a regular and we always got along well, but I suspect with a common name, I was mistaken for someone else who might have been disrespectful. Anyway, I'll always have very fond memories of my time with her, if you want someone who won't try to empty your account for doing nothing.

Girls1
10-17-18, 16:26
Has been posting under massage for quite awhile now; haven't met. Ad now states 'he', was wondering if anyone has partook the FS.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-have-some-fun-today-shall/411376747226

Otto22
10-17-18, 17:40
Has been posting under massage for quite awhile now; haven't met. Ad now states 'he', was wondering if anyone has partook the FS.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-have-some-fun-today-shall/411376747226I have never been able to get together with this one. Have made appointments and, as I neared John Ball Park, she went silent. Hard to have an experience when she ghosts you.

TonyNash900
10-17-18, 18:26
I've not been to either Pacific location, but sounds like it's worth checking out. I've seen Amanda at Paradise for my monthly massage for about a year or so now and am very satisfied but would like a provider who has a deeper menu. Anyone specific from pacific you'd recommend? Thanks.I've gone to Pacific multiple times and have only had a good time with Lisa. She does a great reversal and I love to give a women a massage.

BigDNick
10-17-18, 19:37
I always thought she was strictly against anything having to do with what all of us are here for. Has anyone seen this ad or seen her recently?

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/come-now/458478725080

Mr Cruzer
10-17-18, 20:28
Has been posting under massage for quite awhile now; haven't met. Ad now states 'he', was wondering if anyone has partook the FS.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-have-some-fun-today-shall/411376747226Used to go by Linn or Lynn (then other monikers) a year or two ago. Saw her once at Momma D's in Holland. Crappy ms, but pretty much full menu. Moved to "near Zoo", then to one of the local parlors (can't remember which one) then back to Zoo area. Many bad reviews, some saying they were completely ripped off of their money and she'd disappear. The one time I say her she was so high she couldn't find the lotion, towels, flighty as hell. Maybe she's changed, but I'd be careful.

NoseJelly
10-17-18, 21:40
Has been posting under massage for quite awhile now; haven't met. Ad now states 'he', was wondering if anyone has partook the FS.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-have-some-fun-today-shall/411376747226Complete waste of your time G! And she is way way over 34 or even 44!

DerickSaunders
10-17-18, 22:05
Used to go by Linn or Lynn (then other monikers) a year or two ago. Saw her once at Momma D's in Holland. Crappy ms, but pretty much full menu. Moved to "near Zoo", then to one of the local parlors (can't remember which one) then back to Zoo area. Many bad reviews, some saying they were completely ripped off of their money and she'd disappear. The one time I say her she was so high she couldn't find the lotion, towels, flighty as hell. Maybe she's changed, but I'd be careful.Maybe I'm way off here but doesn't she work at healthy habits now? I'm blanking on her name but I had a terrible FS massage with her there. I wrote about it on here.

Edge 1201
10-17-18, 23:07
Has been posting under massage for quite awhile now; haven't met. Ad now states 'he', was wondering if anyone has partook the FS.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-have-some-fun-today-shall/411376747226She is very scatter-brained. Sometimes she "forgets" the appointment and other times sets it up, then crickets. Never got more than 1/2 hour from her even when booking an hour. Trys the GPS attitude but quickly changes if you threaten to walk. Ditzy blonde. BBCIM & BBFS both with MSOG and she's a screamer. Overall a mid to lower bracket provider. $150 for half-hour. I've seen her a couple of times hoping things will get better, but they did not.

Bloozer
10-17-18, 23:47
After a long time and with Kandieland staying away, I had good experiences in the past with Mia at Healthy Habits and decided to make the drive. The only negative is whoever answers the phone speaks and understands English horribly! But we got thru it and I set up a 3:00. Holy bawlz batman does this huge ta-ta'd honey aim to please or what!? Wow she hit the spot hard! It's refreshing to not be hit by upsell after upsell. She did what needed to be done with professional poise and consideration for me and then some!. I usually don't care for bbw's, but she carries it well and is very attractive. I'm extremely pleased and highly recommend this lady!

For me 60 door (hour),80 services, and I found a ten in my other pocket. I most definitely will repeat often.

Girls1
10-18-18, 07:27
Wow, thanks for everyone's negative response on her! Not looking for flighty, spacey, or a GPS date. I'll avoid.

ChipCharger
10-18-18, 09:43
After a long time and with Kandieland staying away, I had good experiences in the past with Mia at Healthy Habits and decided to make the drive. The only negative is whoever answers the phone speaks and understands English horribly! But we got thru it and I set up a 3:00. Holy bawlz batman does this huge ta-ta'd honey aim to please or what!? Wow she hit the spot hard! It's refreshing to not be hit by upsell after upsell. She did what needed to be done with professional poise and consideration for me and then some!. I usually don't care for bbw's, but she carries it well and is very attractive. I'm extremely pleased and highly recommend this lady!

For me 60 door (hour),80 services, and I found a ten in my other pocket. I most definitely will repeat often.Got to Link?

Love The Lips
10-18-18, 09:48
Just wondering for those of you who have seen these ladies what one can expect for their premium rates? I know that most of them post that they are NOT FS but surely they must include more than the typical full nude with full roaming, fiv, etc to be able to get these rates. Some of these are posting that their half hours are 140-150 so is it safe to assume that it includes a really good CMT quality massage as well as a BJ, daty, etc but short of FS? I mean their rates are 50-70% higher than the typical rates. Please let me know what gives and if you feel what is included is truly worth the premium pricing. Feel free to pm me if you don't want to post on the open board. Thanks.

Laptop1000
10-18-18, 10:26
I've not been to either Pacific location, but sounds like it's worth checking out. I've seen Amanda at Paradise for my monthly massage for about a year or so now and am very satisfied but would like a provider who has a deeper menu. Anyone specific from pacific you'd recommend? Thanks.I have seen Heather on three occasions. She is very well-built and aims to please.

Mighty416
10-18-18, 11:13
She is very scatter-brained. Sometimes she "forgets" the appointment and other times sets it up, then crickets. Never got more than 1/2 hour from her even when booking an hour. Trys the GPS attitude but quickly changes if you threaten to walk. Ditzy blonde. BBCIM & BBFS both with MSOG and she's a screamer. Overall a mid to lower bracket provider. $150 for half-hour. I've seen her a couple of times hoping things will get better, but they did not.I concur. Avoid avoid. Lousy massage and he.

Benz1
10-18-18, 11:41
I concur. Avoid avoid. Lousy massage and he.Is she still at Healthy Habits?

Bloozer
10-18-18, 11:58
Got to Link?She's at Healthy Habits on 28th. Do I need a link for that?

Monger01
10-18-18, 12:25
Been a long time but I recall words like "insane" and "crazy" used in reviews of her years ago.


Wow, thanks for everyone's negative response on her! Not looking for flighty, spacey, or a GPS date. I'll avoid..

Stonecoldstan
10-18-18, 14:37
Has anyone been to the MP behind the bowling alley in Comstock Park? Drove by it the other day but don't remember it being there or any reviews.

RichieGR
10-18-18, 15:30
Has anyone been to the MP behind the bowling alley in Comstock Park? Drove by it the other day but don't remember it being there or any reviews.Been there, strictly professional.

ChipCharger
10-18-18, 18:25
She's at Healthy Habits on 28th. Do I need a link for that?Just busting your balls a bit Dr Linklater. I couldn't resist but I appreciate your assistance in making things run smooth.

TwoTrack
10-18-18, 22:03
Been there, strictly professional.Pretty good massage with a pretty good looking mid 20's Chinese girl.

I ended up with minimal otc roaming, striking myself while she fondled me and watched.

60 door /20 tip.

Looks 8/10.

Massage 7/10.

Ending 5/10 (Not bad for myself, LOL).

I may repeat as it was very clean, massage was pretty good, and she was easy on the eyes.

Stay safe guys!

2 track.

JuanMan1217
10-19-18, 12:47
Been reading the forum for a while. Made and apt with Layla last weekend. Had a great time. Senior members feel free to pm for details.Hi she says 150 no tip does that mean extra or.

Monger01
10-19-18, 13:09
Was in the mood for massage and haven't seen an indy for that in ages so I contacted Riley. Her ad is down so no link but usually found at usasg classifieds. Her private house is off 196 near downtown in a decent neighborhood. She has a massage table setup in her bedroom and plays music during session. She advertises "naked massage" and started stripping as soon as I got in the bedroom. WOW what a body! I'd guess her age at late 30's or more by her face but she has the tight spinner body of a 20 year old college girl. B cups no sag. Sweet round ass, not an ounce of flab or fat anywhere. Facewise she's not pretty at all and does nothing with her hair which was a bit ratty. She gives a decent massage. Better than half the parlor girls. She did a very nice prostate massage and a slow deliberate HE.

50 out the door for HH. 80 hr tip included. Valuewise she can't be beat. Best naked body I've seen in a long time. If a professional would do her makeup and hair she'd be a total knockout.

I recommend and will repeat. May try FS next visit.


Seen Riley about a week back and holy hell was it amazing. Scheduled a hour after a little trouble with communication but not bad. First half of the session was a great massage. She knows what she's doing and I like the massage lotion she uses over the standard oil you get every where else. After the flip she played sensually for about ten minutes while talking. Lots of fun there. Agreed on FS and moved to the bed. She must really enjoy what she does. The next 45 min were bliss. Lots of BBBJ and riding. Never asked to change positions so I left her ride, she seemed to be enjoying herself and the sheets showed it. Finished with CIM. We were way over time, closer to two hours but she never mentioned it or seemed to even look at a clock. I plan to repeat over and over. I tipped high due to the time and overall experience, $$ our the door.

HeadShot
10-19-18, 13:14
Just wondering for those of you who have seen these ladies what one can expect for their premium rates? I know that most of them post that they are NOT FS but surely they must include more than the typical full nude with full roaming, fiv, etc to be able to get these rates. Some of these are posting that their half hours are 140-150 so is it safe to assume that it includes a really good CMT quality massage as well as a BJ, daty, etc but short of FS? I mean their rates are 50-70% higher than the typical rates. Please let me know what gives and if you feel what is included is truly worth the premium pricing. Feel free to pm me if you don't want to post on the open board. Thanks.Not sure where your getting the math wrong, or perhaps you misread a posting. That sounds like nuru rates. I've been seeing Emily for awhile and have never paid more than standard rates. I think she's like $10 more than usual for 1 hr. That being said, she's super cool, easy to talk to, sexy and does a good job in my mind.

Blackfire
10-19-18, 14:28
After a long time and with Kandieland staying away, I had good experiences in the past with Mia at Healthy Habits and decided to make the drive. The only negative is whoever answers the phone speaks and understands English horribly! But we got thru it and I set up a 3:00. Holy bawlz batman does this huge ta-ta'd honey aim to please or what!? Wow she hit the spot hard! It's refreshing to not be hit by upsell after upsell. She did what needed to be done with professional poise and consideration for me and then some!. I usually don't care for bbw's, but she carries it well and is very attractive. I'm extremely pleased and highly recommend this lady!

For me 60 door (hour),80 services, and I found a ten in my other pocket. I most definitely will repeat often.Thanks for the review. You didn't give any details what you received in terms of service other than "she hit the spot hard". I hate to assume, so I'll ask. For $150 to a BBW at a massage parlor I imagine at least 1 hour was spent with her, and she provided a FS experience? Any other details you can provide that helps us mongers understand what we might expect for $150 here?

Benz1
10-19-18, 14:52
Thanks for the review. You didn't give any details what you received in terms of service other than "she hit the spot hard". I hate to assume, so I'll ask. For $150 to a BBW at a massage parlor I imagine at least 1 hour was spent with her, and she provided a FS experience? Any other details you can provide that helps us mongers understand what we might expect for $150 here?I've read reviews on this forum that confirmed BBBJ and BBFS from Mia and Angela.
Mia gets naked right away and allows plenty of roaming and fiv.
Mia offered me a BJ for 100 that would have been a total of 140hh, I said Nope then she dropped to 80. Nope. Massage was kinda lame. The massage is important to me. I guess at this point I'll call a good CMT quality massage an extra, it's hard to find at hobby sites. If I don't get a good massage, I won't repeat.
If you go to HH looking for a good CMT quality massage ask for Amynas.

Bloozer
10-19-18, 19:57
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Jaynna
10-19-18, 23:51
Had the good fortune of seeing Di at MBD yesterday. Great conversationalist, a great massage, and a great ending! What more could you ask for. She could have spent a little more time on the nuru-- I like feeling her rub up and down my body. But overall it was a great time and I didn't feel rushed at all. Will definitely repeat-- if she lets me!Thank you kindly for taking time to review! I appreciate your kind words! As always, we aim to put our guests first!!

It would be my pleasure, to see you again!

Di.

White300
10-20-18, 07:31
I've seen her before. Personally I thought she was awesome. A little chatty but not too bad. Massage is very good. Flip was good. I will be repeating for sure. Hope that helps.Mind sharing her menu with me?

GoodFun10
10-20-18, 22:01
Thanks for the review. You didn't give any details what you received in terms of service other than "she hit the spot hard". I hate to assume, so I'll ask. For $150 to a BBW at a massage parlor I imagine at least 1 hour was spent with her, and she provided a FS experience? Any other details you can provide that helps us mongers understand what we might expect for $150 here?Good news. Kandi will be back in GR next week for a day. Probably on Wednesday.

Hap Hunter
10-21-18, 00:42
Was in the mood for massage and haven't seen an indy for that in ages so I contacted Riley. Her ad is down so no link but usually found at usasg classifieds. Her private house is off 196 near downtown in a decent neighborhood. She has a massage table setup in her bedroom and plays music during session. She advertises "naked massage" and started stripping as soon as I got in the bedroom. WOW what a body! I'd guess her age at late 30's or more by her face but she has the tight spinner body of a 20 year old college girl. B cups no sag. Sweet round ass, not an ounce of flab or fat anywhere. Facewise she's not pretty at all and does nothing with her hair which was a bit ratty. She gives a decent massage. Better than half the parlor girls. She did a very nice prostate massage and a slow deliberate HE.

50 out the door for HH. 80 hr tip included. Valuewise she can't be beat. Best naked body I've seen in a long time. If a professional would do her makeup and hair she'd be a total knockout.

I recommend and will repeat. May try FS next visit.Need to road trip to GR. Use to bang Riley for $1 to $. 40 for an hour+ of time when she was in Lansing. Great provider!

Wolverines
10-21-18, 01:46
Thanks for the info.


She is very scatter-brained. Sometimes she "forgets" the appointment and other times sets it up, then crickets. Never got more than 1/2 hour from her even when booking an hour. Trys the GPS attitude but quickly changes if you threaten to walk. Ditzy blonde. BBCIM & BBFS both with MSOG and she's a screamer. Overall a mid to lower bracket provider. $150 for half-hour. I've seen her a couple of times hoping things will get better, but they did not.


Used to go by Linn or Lynn (then other monikers) a year or two ago. Saw her once at Momma D's in Holland. Crappy ms, but pretty much full menu. Moved to "near Zoo", then to one of the local parlors (can't remember which one) then back to Zoo area. Many bad reviews, some saying they were completely ripped off of their money and she'd disappear. The one time I say her she was so high she couldn't find the lotion, towels, flighty as hell. Maybe she's changed, but I'd be careful.


Has been posting under massage for quite awhile now; haven't met. Ad now states 'he', was wondering if anyone has partook the FS.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-have-some-fun-today-shall/411376747226

Wolverines
10-21-18, 01:56
She's a good one.


Was in the mood for massage and haven't seen an indy for that in ages so I contacted Riley. Her ad is down so no link but usually found at usasg classifieds. Her private house is off 196 near downtown in a decent neighborhood. She has a massage table setup in her bedroom and plays music during session. She advertises "naked massage" and started stripping as soon as I got in the bedroom. WOW what a body! I'd guess her age at late 30's or more by her face but she has the tight spinner body of a 20 year old college girl. B cups no sag. Sweet round ass, not an ounce of flab or fat anywhere. Facewise she's not pretty at all and does nothing with her hair which was a bit ratty. She gives a decent massage. Better than half the parlor girls. She did a very nice prostate massage and a slow deliberate HE.

50 out the door for HH. 80 hr tip included. Valuewise she can't be beat. Best naked body I've seen in a long time. If a professional would do her makeup and hair she'd be a total knockout.

I recommend and will repeat. May try FS next visit.

Edge 1201
10-21-18, 15:33
Thanks for the info.We should start a thread called Darwin Was Right for the providers with less than adequate services.

AmpPerv
10-22-18, 11:49
On 28th SE W of Breton in plaza W of Gormans. Saw Cindy, new girl and not the Cindy who had been managing the place for some time. Girls really come and go here. Cindy had been working at a spa in Southfield. Average looking but okay, like a lot of Chinese girls not much in the hips or legs but titties were good enough and was willing to show them. Probably in her upper thirties and speaks good English. Shortly after starting massage she had climbed up on the table, stopped massaging and became friendly with her talk, I was on my side to talk with her, thought it was kind of quick to move into this stage but who cares, so I had her get topless and played around for a while, then she continued with the rubdown. Enjoyable to spend time with. Don't know if YMMV.

60/ hr Tip /70.

Monger01
10-22-18, 12:41
My regular go to girls were out so I tried Jade. Nice looking slender pretty young lady. Massage was ok. Nothing great. She had quit a while back but returned. Said she really just wanted to do appointments only but agreed to work a few shifts. On the flip she tells me 60 topless, 100 nude. Much as I wanted badly to have her nude no fing way I'm paying 100 for a nude he. I declined both offers. HE was ok at best. Other signs of GPS during chat so wasn't real surprised. 40 hh door. I was irritated by the rates and her barely passable HE skill so tipped 20.

The hobby, both massage and escorts, has about priced me out of the market.
I may take a break for a while.

FreeNomad
10-22-18, 15:25
Just saw a massage spot on the corner of straight and butter worth just wondering if anybody TOFTT on this place. Just looking for massage with a little extra on the side.

Love The Lips
10-22-18, 16:14
Any recent reports on Peyton? Haven't seen her yet though I hear she is one of the petite ones at Panacea. Just curious about her level of service and value. Thanks.

Love Massage
10-22-18, 22:37
Thanks for the info.Scam artist. She had a bed mattress on floor in a cluttered room. This house near the Zoo.

This was a year ago. How in the world she is better.

I say no way.

Stay a way from her!

KentwoodBorn
10-23-18, 01:08
Is there any way to get her number?

Mighty416
10-23-18, 08:24
Scam artist. She had a bed mattress on floor in a cluttered room. This house near the Zoo.

This was a year ago. How in the world she is better.

I say no way.

Stay a way from her!I totally agree. Stay away. Bad situation. When I was there to guys strolled through. She said it was her sons. Not good. Stay away from this one.

RichieGR
10-23-18, 09:50
Scam artist. She had a bed mattress on floor in a cluttered room. This house near the Zoo.

This was a year ago. How in the world she is better.

I say no way.

Stay a way from her!Confirmed, she's a worn out *****, with no intentions of providing anything of value. Complete scam. Be warned.

AmpPerv
10-23-18, 11:24
Just saw a massage spot on the corner of straight and butter worth just wondering if anybody TOFTT on this place. Just looking for massage with a little extra on the side.I have not been there but found this web site for them. Click on "Learn More About Us" for info.

https://handsonthecommunity.com/

MichiganMan686
10-24-18, 03:26
Is there any way to get her number?She advertises on usaadultclassifieds I believe the number starts with a 734 area code. I've not seen her yet but on the radar.

Monger01
10-24-18, 09:04
Check your inbox.


Is there any way to get her number?

DocMustard
10-24-18, 20:26
This is a late post but I did see Layla again about 10 days ago. Had another great time. Very nice lady. I would definitely repeat. As always seniors are more than welcome to pm for details.

Wolverines
10-24-18, 21:52
Advanced Search is your friend. Just type Riley's name in it and you will find reviews with her Ads attached. Phone number is in the Ad.


Is there any way to get her number?

Cjm2333
10-25-18, 09:22
A lot has been said about Riley but wanted to reiterate that she is an awesome provider. Good communication, clean and quiet house she hosts in, awesome body. She gave a great slow massage, then teased, and on the flip it was the most erotic slow release I have had at a mp. No jackhammer involved. In a nutshell, no downsides to seeing her at all.

Misunderstood
10-25-18, 13:24
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/speicals-specials-specials/845743862755

Thanks in advance.

Member #6400
10-25-18, 22:43
Had a walk in at Serinity and had the awesome fortune of getting a massage by Kyrah. Kyrah is super hot, great figure, long dark hair, a booty to dream about. And she's got a great sense of humor.

Massage was relaxing, not CMT level, but it felt so good. Flip side was awesome too.

I recommend highly.

Love The Lips
10-25-18, 22:55
Had a walk in at Serinity and had the awesome fortune of getting a massage by Kyrah. Kyrah is super hot, great figure, long dark hair, a booty to dream about. And she's got a great sense of humor.

Massage was relaxing, not CMT level, but it felt so good. Flip side was awesome too.

I recommend highly.Did she try to upsell or bring up tip rate before the end? How much did you tip and did she get completely nude?

Love The Lips
10-25-18, 22:59
Here's the link to Jersey: http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/jersey-shore/124853680143 It's been a while since I've seen her but she was a real hottie back when she was at Panacea and the pics in her current ad look great! Anyone seen her lately? I think she is oncall at Royal now.

Benz1
10-26-18, 00:20
Looks like Big Boob Bouncing Bobby is back from Vacation. Nice MILF, very proud of the twins, likes to whip them out and smothered me with them.

My experience was HJ and Russian only but they were Firm and Fun.

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=67087&cityid=222

Pics are real , a few months old. She's due for some new. Hoping she's up for a photo Op

Wolverines
10-26-18, 01:11
We need to convert this hottie to a FS provider. Thanks for the info.


Here's the link to Jersey: http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/jersey-shore/124853680143
It's been a while since I've seen her but she was a real hottie back when she was at Panacea and the pics in her current ad look great! Anyone seen her lately? I think she is incall at Royal now.

Wolverines
10-26-18, 01:19
Yowza! They are something.


Looks like Big Boob Bouncing Bobby is back from Vacation. Nice MILF, very proud of the twins, likes to whip them out and smothered me with them. My experience was HJ and Russian only but they were Firm and Fun. Pics are real , a few months old. She's due for some new. Hoping she's up for a photo Op

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=67087&cityid=222

MichiganMan686
10-26-18, 05:02
We need to convert this hottie to a FS provider. Thanks for the info.Never been to Royal. Is their previous reports of FS there? TY.

MichiganMan686
10-26-18, 05:20
Is this the mia from HH on 28th st. Pic is from usaadultclassified. TY.

ClassyGentGr
10-26-18, 06:15
A new "old" gal has resurfaced and I thought I would put in a good word for her (she gave me permission). Cassidy has been around and I used to see her, but then she disappeared for a few years. Well, I saw her ad under massage on STG yesterday and made contact and then was able to set up a quick hh appointment yesterday after work. She still has same beautiful features, great personality, and sensual demeanor. She will provide you with all you need if you treat her right (quoted $25 hh. $$ hr.) She is 41, dark, long curly hair and skin. Worth a visit if you want a classier experience. Clean, safe incall in Wyoming (28th St). Here's the link: http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/cassidylivelife/850868113453.

Bismark
10-26-18, 08:19
Is this the mia from HH on 28th st. Pic is from usaadultclassified. TY.Yes but she is heavier than this pic implies. She's a lot of fun and has nice, large, soft breasts but her pics all imply she's not as much a BBW as she is.

Stroker417
10-26-18, 09:47
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/speicals-specials-specials/845743862755

Thanks in advance.Yes, I would like to know also. She looks too good to be true.

Misunderstood
10-26-18, 12:39
Yes, I would like to know also. She looks too good to be true.TOFTT. It's is old Molly. With a bait and switch. Lousy head game, worst laid ever. It is too good to be true.

Wolverines
10-27-18, 00:27
Holy crap, nice catch! I remember her posts from back in 2005. I always regretted not seeing her. She had a hot bod back then and she still looks good. Although, I will say at least one of the pictures she is using in her current Ad is at least 13 years old. That's the one where she is wearing a tie. Just for fun I attached a thumbnail of a bunch of her pictures from back in the day. I am sure she will love that.


A new "old" gal has resurfaced and I thought I would put in a good word for her (she gave me permission). Cassidy has been around and I used to see her, but then she disappeared for a few years. Well, I saw her ad under massage on STG yesterday and made contact and then was able to set up a quick hh appointment yesterday after work. She still has same beautiful features, great personality, and sensual demeanor. She will provide you with all you need if you treat her right (quoted $25 hh. $$ hr.) She is 41, dark, long curly hair and skin. Worth a visit if you want a classier experience. Clean, safe incall in Wyoming (28th St).

Here's the link: http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/cassidylivelife/850868113453.

SweetHemiStud
10-27-18, 18:26
I just had an absolutely amazing experience with Amyna at Healthy Habits. I've been wanting to try her out for quite a while. She finally responded to me and we were able to schedule an appointment. I definitely concur that if you want a CMT level massage, she is surely the girl to go see.

Wolverines
10-27-18, 18:52
Was a HE included or is she totally legit?


I just had an absolutely amazing experience with Amyna at Healthy Habits. I've been wanting to try her out for quite a while. She finally responded to me and we were able to schedule an appointment. I definitely concur that if you want a CMT level massage, she is surely the girl to go see.

SweetHemiStud
10-27-18, 18:55
Was a HE included or is she totally legit?HE also, sorry, forgot to mention that, I was too stoked about finding a good massage.

Benz1
10-27-18, 21:44
Yes but she is heavier than this pic implies. She's a lot of fun and has nice, large, soft breasts but her pics all imply she's not as much a BBW as she is.Looks like Mia at Healthy Habits and many other providers are still using old or fake pics. If they are old and don't represent her then they are Fake. Molly is using fake pics now too.

Girls wonder why they get unsatisfied and grumpy clients.

We should all boycott fake pics, If it's not the girl in the pic answering the door, tell them, pick another or leave. They'll get the message after a few door slams Use Real Pics. We have the power to change this problem. Walk Away from all bait and switch providers.

They would all get good reviews.
If they used real pics, at least try to give a good massage, give the full time you paid for and an unrushed HE.

Nyped96
10-27-18, 21:51
Was a HE included or is she totally legit?I have not seen her lately, but I used to see her a lot previouly and she always provided a very pleasant HE.

MichiganMan686
10-28-18, 05:22
Looks like Mia at Healthy Habits and many other providers are still using old or fake pics. If they are old and don't represent her then they are Fake. Molly is using fake pics now too.

Girls wonder why they get unsatisfied and grumpy clients.

We should all boycott fake pics, If it's not the girl in the pic answering the door, tell them, pick another or leave. They'll get the message after a few door slams Use Real Pics. We have the power to change this problem. Walk Away from all bait and switch providers.

They would all get good reviews.
If they used real pics, at least try to give a good massage, give the full time you paid for and an unrushed HE.I agree. The longer you are in the hobby the easier it is to really know if the pics are TGTBT but sometimes I still get caught by bait and switch. I will have the pics right on my phone to compare when I see a new provider. I have walked many times. It's just a big waste of time that I don't have and actually wrecks the whole hobby sometimes.

TwoTrack
10-28-18, 07:47
Does anyone have any Intel on Becca?

She was at Healthy Habits a couple years ago. She gave a nice massage and a better h. E. ,also had a great attitude!

Please pm with any info. Would love to see her again.

Thank in advance.

2 track.

SteveV4005
10-29-18, 12:43
If you are lookin for a great massage I highly recommend Blessings on Plainfield. On the flip I was teased but told to do it myslef. She did pull her top down and was able to roam. $85 for 90 minute massage and tipped $20. Something sort of hot about there being just a curtain and open ceilings where you can hear everything while finishing.

ZzzDamm
10-29-18, 12:50
Went to see Lywanna, a few weeks ago, got the exotic massage and all I can say is it was fun and really fun! I will definitely repeat with her, not rushed, slow and sensual, just the way I like it. You might need to schedule, I got lucky as a walk-in.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/sunday-specials9am-12pm-on-spe/263613358064

ZzzDamm
10-29-18, 12:52
Again tried Mia, one last time. I will not repeat anymore, she barely tries to massage you, I love a good massage, just a light touch effort, then asks you to massage her, I am done.

ZzzDamm
10-29-18, 12:55
A great massage, no Happiness but I love the massages, just do not understand the advertising on CityXguide.

https://cityxguide.photo/ads/616-648-4803-beautiful-young-girl-asian-massage-13020627

HungryForIt
10-29-18, 13:01
Had a massage with Emily this past week over at MBD. Much better experience with her than in the past. Great conversation, good rub down, and a very satisfying flip. She allowed for a bit more roaming than she has in the past, and that adds a lot. Definitely felt like she was trying to up her game! Will definitely repeat and so should you!

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/emily/979651336283

Benz1
10-29-18, 13:15
Again tried Mia, one last time. I will not repeat anymore, she barely tries to massage you, I love a good massage, just a light touch effort, then asks you to massage her, I am done.I totally agree, she's also using fake pics. Outdated are Fake. That should tell you something about the provider right away. Walk away from providers using fake pics.

Don't get tricked. Stay safe.

EdBlanston
10-29-18, 14:15
This is a couple of months overdue, but I wanted to share my experience with Di at MBD. I opted for her "combo" package with massage and "nuru" (more of a body slide with lotion). First, Di is incredibly friendly and very attractive. Her pics are very accurate and I feel that she's even better looking in person. Her body is in very good shape!

The massage portion of the combo was very good. Helped ease some of the pain of running. The body slide potion was very enjoyable. It certainly appeared that she was enjoying herself as well. I always had 100% of her attention, and I enjoyed interacting with her before and during the session. And the finish of our session was outstanding.

I usually like to try a variety of providers, so I haven't repeated yet. But I will.

Jaynna
10-29-18, 16:40
This is a couple of months overdue, but I wanted to share my experience with Di at MBD. I opted for her "combo" package with massage and "nuru" (more of a body slide with lotion). First, Di is incredibly friendly and very attractive. Her pics are very accurate and I feel that she's even better looking in person. Her body is in very good shape!

The massage portion of the combo was very good. Helped ease some of the pain of running. The body slide potion was very enjoyable. It certainly appeared that she was enjoying herself as well. I always had 100% of her attention, and I enjoyed interacting with her before and during the session. And the finish of our session was outstanding.

I usually like to try a variety of providers, so I haven't repeated yet. But I will.I super appreciate you taking the time for such a wonderful review!! I appreciate your kind words!! Thank you.

I look froward to seeing you again! I hope the running is going well?

Di.

RedSquirrel
10-29-18, 16:46
I agree with the great massage very well worth it. I went here myself the other day with the wife unfortunately so I did t partake in the happiness but I think it may be available I did here some gargling in the bathroom after a girl came out of a room. It may depend on the girl.


A great massage, no Happiness but I love the massages, just do not understand the advertising on CityXguide.

https://cityxguide.photo/ads/616-648-4803-beautiful-young-girl-asian-massage-13020627

Wolverines
10-30-18, 00:58
Went there once back in early spring. Cute girl in her 20's. Great massage, no HE on the menu. Haven't been back.


I agree with the great massage very well worth it. I went here myself the other day with the wife unfortunately so I did t partake in the happiness but I think it may be available I did here some gargling in the bathroom after a girl came out of a room. It may depend on the girl.


A great massage, no Happiness but I love the massages, just do not understand the advertising on CityXguide.

https://cityxguide.photo/ads/616-648-4803-beautiful-young-girl-asian-massage-13020627

Wolverines
10-30-18, 01:09
Independent Wynter still GPSing like A motha! Starting at $1.6 and tips greatly appreciated?!. As an independent she can't blame the door fee. LOL. And I see she got herself verified thru CityXGuide which probably means she will stay independent for awhile. She is hot though. Still hoping she goes FS one of these days.

Wolverines
10-30-18, 01:20
Thanks for the review.


Had a massage with Emily this past week over at MBD. Much better experience with her than in the past. Great conversation, good rub down, and a very satisfying flip. She allowed for a bit more roaming than she has in the past, and that adds a lot. Definitely felt like she was trying to up her game! Will definitely repeat and so should you!

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/emily/979651336283

MichiganMan686
10-30-18, 02:48
Hooked up with Riley. Texting is the communication. Answers fast and texts in a timely manner. 80 hr. Pretty good massage. Really nice girl. Great body but as stated before no makeup or hairstyle. She gets naked right at the beginning without being asked. Anyway flip was pretty good got the job done. Probably will repeat. I felt very safe and comfortable. Left satisfied. Happy hunting my friends.

Wolverines
10-30-18, 18:05
Thanks MM.


Hooked up with Riley. Texting is the communication. Answers fast and texts in a timely manner. 80 hr. Pretty good massage. Really nice girl. Great body but as stated before no makeup or hairstyle. She gets naked right at the beginning without being asked. Anyway flip was pretty good got the job done. Probably will repeat. I felt very safe and comfortable. Left satisfied. Happy hunting my friends.

TwoTrack
10-30-18, 21:57
Independent Wynter still GPSing like A motha! Starting at $1.6 and tips greatly appreciated?!. As an independent she can't blame the door fee. LOL. And I see she got herself verified thru CityXGuide which probably means she will stay independent for awhile. She is hot though. Still hoping she goes FS one of these days.I must need an eye exam! I don't see hot at all.

I see make-up and a bad attitude.

There is definitely better options for hard working, NON desperate mongers!

When a "therapist" feels she is all that for a half ass rub for 12 minutes (when you paid for an hour) then tries to upsell at rates of a high profile escort, that's not a "new" attitude.

She's no where near hot! Average at best!

Save your money and see an actual provider that actually appreciates your hard earned cash.

There is DEFINITELY better options out there!

Monger on!

2 track.

MichiganMan686
10-31-18, 00:33
Thanks MM.YW. I'm going to put MBD on my radar next. All 3 girls. I'll report back. Been a monger for a long time. I know the game. Had a lot of high end stuff from like Eros. Com too. Independent and agencies. What a fun hobby. Later wolverines and all that share.

SlapShot69
10-31-18, 08:04
Thanks MM.The FS option is worth it, she really gets in to it!

Monger01
10-31-18, 08:46
FS will probably be 400 LOL.


Independent Wynter still GPSing like A motha! Starting at $1.6 and tips greatly appreciated?!. As an independent she can't blame the door fee. LOL. And I see she got herself verified thru CityXGuide which probably means she will stay independent for awhile. She is hot though. Still hoping she goes FS one of these days.

JohnSolo
10-31-18, 11:22
Anyone see her lately?

I texted her the other day.

She responded "what time?

I responded immediately and then radio silence.

Stonecoldstan
10-31-18, 12:15
Anyone see her lately?

I texted her the other day.

She responded "what time?

I responded immediately and then radio silence.I was just thinking about her yesterday and how great of a provider she was.

TwistedBrother
10-31-18, 12:16
The FS option is worth it, she really gets in to it!Is Riley open to DFK and BB activities? Also wondering if she might travel to Lansing (motel) if the price was right. Reply by PM, if preferred. Thanks.

JuanMan1217
10-31-18, 12:17
Say has anyone seen her for massage, it's seemingly more than that, she does outcall. So let me know great body, plus charges 150 for 45 min normal is like 40 or 50 massage rate.

Love The Lips
10-31-18, 12:41
Is Riley open to DFK and BB activities? Also wondering if she might travel to Lansing (motel) if the price was right. Reply by PM, if preferred. Thanks.Riley is originally from or at least worked out of Lansing, that's where I first saw her. Not sure about the BB FS but I would think she would be open to the DFK. She used to offer Greek as well but got discouraged when guys would schedule a Greek appointment and she would get all "prepared" for it and then the guys would be a no show.

Benz1
10-31-18, 12:56
Anyone check this one out

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=66634&cityid=222

Hopefully all the salons will follow Serenity's lead. Might be a discount price war starting today
I'm guessing all the girls are dressing up, hopefully down too.

Pete3854
10-31-18, 13:18
Anyone check this one out

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=66634&cityid=222

Hopefully all the salons will follow Serenity's lead. Might be a discount price war starting today
I'm guessing all the girls are dressing up, hopefully down too.Now your just being silly. Haley is the only one with any marketing sense.

Benz1
10-31-18, 13:57
Had a walk in at Serinity and had the awesome fortune of getting a massage by Kyrah. Kyrah is super hot, great figure, long dark hair, a booty to dream about. And she's got a great sense of humor.

Massage was relaxing, not CMT level, but it felt so good. Flip side was awesome too.

I recommend highly.Thanks for TOFTT and the review.

She's been on Bismark's wait and see list.

Looks like the wait is be over.

Benz1
10-31-18, 14:01
Thanks for TOFTT and the review.

She's been on Bismark's wait and see list.

Looks like the wait is be over.Oppps forgot the Link.

The pics are real and 3 of them are recent, I took them yesterday.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/halloween-specials-30-hh-kyra/933068149041

AssMann45
10-31-18, 16:57
Oppps forgot the Link.

The pics are real and 3 of them are recent, I took them yesterday.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/halloween-specials-30-hh-kyra/933068149041By the looks of the 1st pic, she likes things in her ass.

Nyped96
10-31-18, 18:07
Is Riley open to DFK and BB activities? Also wondering if she might travel to Lansing (motel) if the price was right. Reply by PM, if preferred. Thanks.She certainly is open for DFK and BBBJ, as well as CFS. I did not go for CIM or BBFS, so I am not sure whethher thaose are on her menu.

Bismark
10-31-18, 18:51
Thanks for TOFTT and the review.

She's been on Bismark's wait and see list.

Looks like the wait is be over.Perhaps. Got to reach out to Hayley and my schedule has become complex of late. Might have missed my opportunity.

Girls1
11-01-18, 06:48
She did cim with me twice.


She certainly is open for DFK and BBBJ, as well as CFS. I did not go for CIM or BBFS, so I am not sure whethher thaose are on her menu.

SteveV4005
11-01-18, 13:25
Did Layla move out on her own?

Charlie441
11-01-18, 14:52
Hopefully all the salons will follow Serenity's lead. Might be a discount price war starting today
I'm guessing all the girls are dressing up, hopefully down too.I certainly won't be holding my breath for market tumblings. LOL. A 1-day only Halloween special, when it's Halloween + a Wednesday and it's only marking down the entry fee to $10 less than standard-market for a hhr, it doesn't seem like an indicator. Their very fruitful massage room experience (without FS) is great and all, but the high tipping price is the main weight and it don't see that cumming down LOL.


She did cim with me twice.Not a big shocker, as there's a big difference between CIM if they're comfortable with you & your gonad, vs BBFS.

DjBiker
11-02-18, 10:14
Anyone check this one out

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=66634&cityid=222

Hopefully all the salons will follow Serenity's lead. Might be a discount price war starting today
I'm guessing all the girls are dressing up, hopefully down too.I would prefer the other salons didn't follow, 1 day then back to the 20 $ more than others charge then of course the 140 $ h / h rate, so I would prefer the rest don't follow, jmo.

TwistedBrother
11-02-18, 12:17
Thanks for the replies, re: Riley. Is this the same gal, advertising in Lansing (probably old ad)? Different number, I see.

https://www.adultlook.com/p/2943663

Girls1
11-02-18, 12:35
Different girl.
Our Riley: 734 834 8408

Thanks for the replies, re: Riley. Is this the same gal, advertising in Lansing (probably old ad)? Different number, I see.

https://www.adultlook.com/p/2943663

Benz1
11-02-18, 17:30
Did Layla move out on her own?Yes she did, Layla is No Longer works at Serenity.

Love The Lips
11-02-18, 21:11
Yes she did, Layla is No Longer works at Serenity.Hey Benz, your mailbox is full.

Benz1
11-02-18, 22:02
Hey Benz, your mailbox is full.Again?? Thanks.
Cleared

Jaynna
11-03-18, 14:37
I would prefer the other salons didn't follow, 1 day then back to the 20 $ more than others charge then of course the 140 $ h / h rate, so I would prefer the rest don't follow, jmo.Just a heads up, I see almost everyday specials with the girls at MBD.

Cjm2333
11-04-18, 07:09
Had a quick half hour free and on a whim stopped at Panacea yesterday. Had the draw and drew Kaitlyn, 20 ish, skinny, cute in her own way. Very lackluster massage, then some teasing, then took top off and said to remove bottom is normally 80. Haha. No way. Pedestrian finish, no enthusiasm, going forward sticking to tried and true providers. 1 $ out door and want it back. LOL.

DjBiker
11-04-18, 08:36
Just a heads up, I see almost everyday specials with the girls at MBD.And that's highly appriceiated, keep up the good work, that's why your biz has been around along time and others come and go.

EngrGuy
11-04-18, 10:37
I would prefer the other salons didn't follow, 1 day then back to the 20 $ more than others charge then of course the 140 $ h / h rate, so I would prefer the rest don't follow, jmo.There is no way I am throwing that much for that. These places are crazy asking and getting that rate. Just my thoughts.

White300
11-04-18, 11:12
There is no way I am throwing that much for that. These places are crazy asking and getting that rate. Just my thoughts.Following the MBD business model. Higher prices, shorter times, and limited services. Proven sustainable by Di / Jaynna and her crew.

Jayce Dragon
11-04-18, 15:17
If you are lookin for a great massage I highly recommend Blessings on Plainfield. On the flip I was teased but told to do it myslef. She did pull her top down and was able to roam. $85 for 90 minute massage and tipped $20. Something sort of hot about there being just a curtain and open ceilings where you can hear everything while finishing.I'm surprised she even lowered her top LOL.

Definitely must be something different brewing for the longrun as both Blessing spots don't offer no kind of fun play or HEs.

Jayce Dragon
11-04-18, 15:21
Went there once back in early spring. Cute girl in her 20's. Great massage, no HE on the menu. Haven't been back.That place has been there for a while. I was going to try it but went for convenience instead. But some old reviews I remember there being no kind of fun there. If you type the name of the street in here it might pop up.

Jaynna
11-04-18, 16:28
And that's highly appriceiated, keep up the good work, that's why your biz has been around along time and others come and go.We have been around for a while now and in the coming New Year will be planning some wonderful changes!! Stay tuned!! Thank you for your compliment!!

Mongerlian
11-04-18, 16:34
Does anyone know if Annie, used to go by amazing Annie, is still around. I have three regulars that I haven't heard from, and I've seen Annie a few times, good massage, so thought I'd ask.

Jaynna
11-04-18, 16:37
Following the MBD business model. Higher prices, shorter times, and limited services. Proven sustainable by Di / Jaynna and her crew.Not really sure what is going on. MBD prices have been the same and typically there is a daily special being run by providers. Our times are not shortened, most regular clients will say we go over on time. Limited services are offered because we are massage therapists, not escorts!! There is a fine line there. Sometimes men want to see a woman for massage, and they push the envelope trying to get FS, because they are "too cheap" to pay escort fees. That being said, it's important that it's understood, where you choose to go, in fact offers, what services you are anticipating.

MBD offers a great (IMO) better than most massage, stick to the times that have been paid for and even go "above and beyond" for our regular returning customers!!

White300 if you have received a service different than that, feel free to inbox me!!

RodMan3328
11-04-18, 17:57
Princess Heather has been advertising via Pacific Massage. I know the past reviews have been lackluster. But I'm only looking for pull and tug with a beauty with a great chest. She fits the bill for me. Has anyone seen her as of late at Pacific and how did it go? Thanks in Advanced.

Guitar Man
11-05-18, 03:43
I'm surprised she even lowered her top LOL.

Definitely must be something different brewing for the longrun as both Blessing spots don't offer no kind of fun play or HEs.I agree, they offer no fun.

Pete3854
11-05-18, 10:10
Princess Heather has been advertising via Pacific Massage. I know the past reviews have been lackluster. But I'm only looking for pull and tug with a beauty with a great chest. She fits the bill for me. Has anyone seen her as of late at Pacific and how did it go? Thanks in Advanced.I saw her, massage wasn't bad, and she definitely knows got to tug on it.

Monger01
11-05-18, 10:18
Did she take her top off or get naked? If so what rate did she demand? She was princess of upsell limited menu as an escort but if she's not using Wynter's massage tip scale I may see her too.

PM me if you prefer.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/passionate-and-sweet/291381245263




I saw her, massage wasn't bad, and she definitely knows got to tug on it.

Benz1
11-05-18, 12:12
Nose Jelly.

You have mail.

MichiganMan686
11-06-18, 03:40
Hey guys. Who is this? Usaadultclassified.

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=67718&cityid=-22

Thanks.

MM.

MuskegonAve
11-06-18, 07:09
Hey guys. Who is this? Usaadultclassified.

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=67718&cityid=-22

Thanks.

MM.That's Beth. Formerly of Touch of Tranquility. She's kind of flighty. She has many bad reviews on here.

Mongerlian
11-06-18, 07:44
Hey guys. Who is this? Usaadultclassified.

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=67718&cityid=-22

Thanks.

MM.If it's who I think, I believe she's a psycho bipolar chick that what you get, HE or lecture, depends on the hour. I saw her once as "Beth" years ago, strictly legit massage. My understanding is she's gotten batshit crazy since then. If I'm wrong, other mongers feel free to correct me.

DjBiker
11-06-18, 07:51
If it's who I think, I believe she's a psycho bipolar chick that what you get, HE or lecture, depends on the hour. I saw her once as "Beth" years ago, strictly legit massage. My understanding is she's gotten batshit crazy since then. If I'm wrong, other mongers feel free to correct me.Just for fun I texted her, and she has to be certifiably crazy if you want some entertainment text her and begin to laugh, I believe I ended the text by telling her she was f'ing crazy.

Monger01
11-06-18, 09:13
Never a good sign when the ad has a giant list of rules.

Batshit crazy is likely.


If it's who I think, I believe she's a psycho bipolar chick that what you get, HE or lecture, depends on the hour. I saw her once as "Beth" years ago, strictly legit massage. My understanding is she's gotten batshit crazy since then. If I'm wrong, other mongers feel free to correct me.

TwoTrack
11-06-18, 09:43
If it's who I think, I believe she's a psycho bipolar chick that what you get, HE or lecture, depends on the hour. I saw her once as "Beth" years ago, strictly legit massage. My understanding is she's gotten batshit crazy since then. If I'm wrong, other mongers feel free to correct me.She is definitely different.

She will lead you on to get you to come get a massage, and that is ALL it is.

No extras, no ending, just a "ok" massage while listening her tell you all HER problems.

Good luck.

Two track.

MichiganMan686
11-06-18, 09:48
Never a good sign when the ad has a giant list of rules.

Batshit crazy is likely.I agree on the ad. Really weird. Sounded like my ex wife. LMFAO. I just saw that set of cans (Boobs) and thought it might be fun to put a necklace on them. TY my fellow gents.

TwoTrack
11-06-18, 09:51
Grand Opening on Friday!!

Received a text this morning. ATF that went to Arizona in February is back!

Let's welcome her back!

Two track.

Soupy3838
11-06-18, 09:54
If I wanted so many damn rules I would get a significant other smh.


Hey guys. Who is this? Usaadultclassified.

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=67718&cityid=-22

Thanks.

MM.

SteveV4005
11-06-18, 12:41
Where is the new place going to be? I hope it is Cindy!!


Grand Opening on Friday!!

Received a text this morning. ATF that went to Arizona in February is back!

Let's welcome her back!

Two track.

AmpPerv
11-06-18, 14:39
On 28th st west of Breton.

This place has new chicks every month. Wanted to see Cici but she had an appt so I took Lucy who just started there. She is form New York, could not understand if NYC or a different city. Been in US for three years and still not very good English. Okay looks, worked as Masseuse in New York, massage was not bad, did not use oil just bare hands for a while then used lotion. Got up on the table between my legs to do her teasing, was okay but with her English not so good I was unable to direct her how I would like it. She did spend plenty of time there, though. Turned over for HE, lifted her t-shirt up and pulled up her bra and started to have my fun while she did her thing. I've noticed some the younger girls may not want to be touched but don't really stop you from it. Lucy seemed to be more sensitive than usual to pleasure and like some others she went to town and did me as fast as she could to get it over. An okay experience as most are, would neither recommend or not.

60/ hr 60/ tip.

Toes63
11-06-18, 17:38
I agree on the ad. Really weird. Sounded like my ex wife. LMFAO. I just saw that set of cans (Boobs) and thought it might be fun to put a necklace on them. TY my fellow gents.Texted her for an appointment and she wanted a face pic and age and nationality I wouldn't do it so she blocked my number.

TwoTrack
11-06-18, 17:42
Where is the new place going to be? I hope it is Cindy!!Sounds like it's at the OLD Serenity on Plainfield.

It is Cindy!!

Can't wait until Friday!

Still waiting on new office phone number.

Stay safe guys.

Two track.

Benz1
11-07-18, 10:24
Seasons cum and go, Winter's back. Had a great time.

Hayley's getting more hands on with the girls and the boys, had a four handed round robin with both of them. Mutual massage with a trophy pic to go.

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=67963&cityid=222&fbclid=IwAR2t23fcuc0ZpVHnOsVc1Fr74hzeu12Bt6Z7O7rlTw-ktExbgrlHukeEchg

I see why Hayley Likes her.

No makeup necessary for these cheeks and lips, Wynter's ass is Hot.

FemFootLvr33
11-07-18, 13:19
Any guys with foot fetishes out there ever score any providers that enjoy having their feet worshipped? I know it's not that popular in Grand Rapids, but theres got to be some women out there into it.

Moonglow913
11-07-18, 14:09
That's Beth. Formerly of Touch of Tranquility. She's kind of flighty. She has many bad reviews on here.How does she stay in business?

Bkobe824
11-07-18, 14:51
SpongeBob66.

Your inbox us full.

Monger01
11-07-18, 15:04
Stopped in to Pacific and hadn't seen Rebekka in a while so passed on Nina and took Rebekka. Sexy, great tits and has that slutty look about her. Rest of her is nothing special. Attitude is good really. I like her. Part way into massage she says you want nude today? Of course I say yes. And for the first time from her after numerous times I've seen her she replies that's 100. No thanks then. She then says how about 80? No I pass. She did take her top off and let me play with her fantastic tits on the flip with no quote. With her body type I wouldn't pay extra to see lower half anyway. But after many years of going to Pacific and never encountering upsell for topless or nude that's now 2 times in 2 visits I'm quoted 3 digits for nude. Now that Linda and Tammy are gone no one there gives an above average massage. So with that in mind why on earth would I pay 40 or 60 door plus 100 for a nude HJ? I can see Riley for 50 incuding tip for that. Or spend my 140-160 on an escort and get full service and BBBJCIM. I just don't see the value here.
Are you guys seriously tipping 100 for a nude HJ? Why? I'll bet if I ask Brook Billions, Neveah, Taylor or numerous others to take half our time to massage my back before I bang them and cum in their mouth they'll agree. And the massage wouldn't be much different.
Some girls, Tammy and Linda for example, one could argue would beat a novice girl in the massage part and be worth the extra I guess.
One more over priced nude quote at Pacific and I'm done there.

This disease has to be stopped!

Stonecoldstan
11-07-18, 15:34
Stopped in to Pacific and hadn't seen Rebekka in a while so passed on Nina and took Rebekka. Sexy, great tits and has that slutty look about her. Rest of her is nothing special. Attitude is good really. I like her. Part way into massage she says you want nude today? Of course I say yes. And for the first time from her after numerous times I've seen her she replies that's 100. No thanks then. She then says how about 80? No I pass. She did take her top off and let me play with her fantastic tits on the flip with no quote. With her body type I wouldn't pay extra to see lower half anyway. But after many years of going to Pacific and never encountering upsell for topless or nude that's now 2 times in 2 visits I'm quoted 3 digits for nude. Now that Linda and Tammy are gone no one there gives an above average massage. So with that in mind why on earth would I pay 40 or 60 door plus 100 for a nude HJ? I can see Riley for 50 incuding tip for that. Or spend my 140-160 on an escort and get full service and BBBJCIM. I just don't see the value here.
Are you guys seriously tipping 100 for a nude HJ? Why? I'll bet if I ask Brook Billions, Neveah, Taylor or numerous others to take half our time to massage my back before I bang them and cum in their mouth they'll agree. And the massage wouldn't be much different.
Some girls, Tammy and Linda for example, one could argue would beat a novice girl in the massage part and be worth the extra I guess.
One more over priced nude quote at Pacific and I'm done there.

This disease has to be stopped!The GPS in this area is getting out of hand, I'm not sure how to stop it. Has anyone contacted the CDC to ask them?

MuskegonAve
11-07-18, 15:40
How does she stay in business?I'm curious about how she makes it too. I think she needs to miss a few meals. Then she will discard her wall of rules.

Monger01
11-07-18, 15:49
LOL! I wish they could help us!


The GPS in this area is getting out of hand, I'm not sure how to stop it. Has anyone contacted the CDC to ask them?

Benz1
11-07-18, 18:43
The GPS in this area is getting out of hand, I'm not sure how to stop it. Has anyone contacted the CDC to ask them?I totally agree with Monge01 and the rest of the team. I've have said many times, if you want extras like a BJ see a hooker. It's cheaper.

There are those of us who enjoy a good massage, it's hard to find at hobby shops in GR. When you find it, what's it worth?

There are many mongers who won't risk going to a Hotel and see a hooker or bring home any bugs including bed bugs. The MP girls are less likely to be drug users, so we pay a little more at MPs.

I've been in the hobby long enough to scope out a rip off or get what I want but not always when I want it.

Regardless when you go, Prime time will be different than Tuesday.

Today I got a phone call from a UTR provider asking for a ride to Grandville plus a pack of cigs and a soda Scored a Free BJ for me when I dropped her off. This happens about once a month, got to keep your game on and be willing when they need you, the rewards are nice.


At my last MP appointment the extra girl (Hayley) didn't cost me anything extra. It was Tuesday, she was bored stiff and wanted to role play a little. She didn't start or finish, she came in the middle of the appointment. It's been Bobby, KyrahJade or Sophia C too. Just depends who's not busy. It's usually Tuesdays and Wednesdays. That's way those are my hobby days.

I'm all done for the week, I'm a happily married man Thursday. thru Monday. Just like all the Hypocritical Christians on Sundays

Benz1
11-07-18, 18:49
Sorry the Link didn't work, Reposting with new link.

Seasons cum and go, Winter's back. Had a great time.

Hayley's getting more hands on with the girls and the boys, had a four handed round robin with both of them. Mutual massage with a trophy pic to go.

http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classi...ExbgrlHukeEchg

I see why Hayley Likes her.

No makeup necessary for these cheeks and lips, Wynter's ass is Hot.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/winter-is-near/676798773740?fbclid=IwAR2jQq9nf8zfkYdl835UUCKL0lO-j-vOYNftW93AJZm0C4pWIE6gbrK30WA

TwoTrack
11-08-18, 05:48
Any guys with foot fetishes out there ever score any providers that enjoy having their feet worshipped? I know it's not that popular in Grand Rapids, but theres got to be some women out there into it.Mia at H. H. In Cascade mentioned to me awhile back, that she was into the feet.

Good luck.

Two track.