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Benchseats Rock
04-23-10, 11:30
http://www.explorehoward.com/news/71030/police-arrest-27-latest-route-1-prostitution-stings/
Be Safe,
Bench
http://www.explorehoward.com/news/71030/police-arrest-27-latest-route-1-prostitution-stings/
Be Safe,
BenchThats really sad! what have they had about 20 stings at that intersection in the last 2 years and these idiots still dont realize that this is not the spot for soliciting? ive been out there a few times never seen anything at all and if your dumb enough to offer money to a cop you deserve to get arrested!
Firefly2010
04-24-10, 09:09
I called and they were closed for "construction" - is that code for - they got busted?? Anyone??
I was told they are moving, probably to Catonsville.
I called and they were closed for "construction" - is that code for - they got busted?? Anyone??
Member #4061
09-29-10, 03:07
I'd hate to be a Manhattan monger right now because this gal has book deal written all over her. Quite possibly the most shocking fact in the article is that an elementary art teacher makes $61,000 per year with full benefits and retirement. That's shocking! No wonder she quit her night job.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/bronx/bx_teach_admits_an_ex_hooker_HAs5wQMrW8KdcAfpgrK3WP
Here's another shot. Gal has some hips on her.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/09/29/2010-09-29_exsex_worker_melissa_petro_exposed_exploits_on_huffpo_the_same_day_she_got_tenur.html
She looks hungry for some cock to me. Why would she admit her past publicly as a current education professional? Does she want to get fired so she can go back to being paid as a sex worker? Maybe 61K was a pay cut. Too bad becasue she could fuck the principals and get promoted alot faster. At least that is how they do it in PG county. Now I know why my wife had alot of torn panty hose and took alot of night classes. Right!
Benchseats Rock
09-29-10, 17:05
I'd hate to be a Manhattan monger right now because this gal has book deal written all over her. Quite possibly the most shocking fact in the article is that an elementary art teacher makes $61,000 per year with full benefits and retirement. That's shocking! No wonder she quit her night job.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/bronx/bx_teach_admits_an_ex_hooker_HAs5wQMrW8KdcAfpgrK3WP
61k isn't alot of money if you live in New York.
Member #4061
09-29-10, 17:20
Why would she admit her past publicly as a current education professional? Does she want to get fired so she can go back to being paid as a sex worker?
She does with a kicker of course. A nice 4.5 million dollar lawsuit along with stops on the lesbian circuit(Ellen,Oprah,the view) will help her sell more books. Lots of tears and a stop at a therapist's office to tell her it's all the fault of a man somewhere in her life will put her on the fast track to be the new feminist role model.
Member #4061
09-29-10, 17:33
61k isn't alot of money if you live in New York.
You're right Bench, but an elementary art teacher though. I find it hard to believe that they are worth 100,000(salary,full health,dental,vision,life,low interest loans,pension,training,vacation,and on and on) per year to the tax payer. I guess I'm old fashion and think mothers can teach 5,6 and 7 year olds how to color and draw. Judging her hips and ass, she looks like a much better hooker than teacher. If I was a 6 year old boy, I'd be climbing on and off her lap all day.
Yikes -what a bunch of misogynists.
Smiling Fox
09-30-10, 01:35
Most likely we are philogynists,
Well I am.
Smiling Fox ;}
Benchseats Rock
09-30-10, 01:53
Yikes -what a bunch of misogynists.
You've been logging in and reading the forum for 5 years and this is all you've got to say? Not even a thank you?
We might be misogynists... but you're just another asshole lurker who doesn't have anything of value to contribute. So go back to doing what you're good at and shut the fuck up.
On behalf of everyone here who posts intel: you're welcome, and fuck you.
Have a nice day,
Bench
Member #4061
10-04-10, 16:36
Yikes -what a bunch of misogynists.
Hey sweetie! When you're ready for the night of your life, send me a pm. I don't mind if your 40-50 lbs over weight because I'm not one of your shallow friends. I'm much more exciting than a corona, black dildo, and a spin cycle. Life is too short! Stop thinking about it and hook up! Be original and open minded. Leave your friends behind. You're obviously searching for something more. I'll be waiting. Mind blowing orgasms are in your future, but you have to learn how to reciprocate to find true satisfaction.
Hell Yeah!
http://www.texaswatchdog.org/2011/01/strict-texas-prostitution-laws-cost-taxpayers-8-million-a/1296228148.column
This year, when every line in every budget everywhere is getting a good going over, the KHOU Channel 11 News I-Team has found that strict state laws on prostitution cost taxpayers $8 million a year in state prison expenses.
In addition to offering sassy repartee about the life from some of the former businesswomen, the story estimates that taxpayers in Harris County alone are also spending roughly $2. 3 million a year for the housing, care and feeding of prostitutes in the county jail. At the time of the reporting. 130 women were being held in Harris County Jail on charges of prostitution at a cost of a little less than $50 a day.
Texas is one of a handful of states. Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Illinois and Michigan are the others. Where repeat prostitution offenses can mean time, and additional costs, in state prisons, KHOU reported.
State Sen. John Whitmire, D-Houston, chairman of the Senate Criminal Justice Committee, said the prostitution laws in Texas are tough, but did not speculate on whether a tough state budget year might warrant leniency for prostitutes as a cost-saving measure.
The I-Team found some cost savings through a Harris County program called Success Through Addiction Recovery, but only a small number of women prosecuted for prostitution since 2003 have qualified for drug treatment rather than jail time.
Kristokirov
05-23-11, 23:07
If you didn't pay taxes you'd feel differently. But, making a wage and paying 250 / hr to a chick like that will teach you the value of a dollar right quick.
How's that for misogyny?
Dj Platinum
05-28-11, 21:50
Hell Yeah!
http://www.texaswatchdog.org/2011/01/strict-texas-prostitution-laws-cost-taxpayers-8-million-a/1296228148.column
This year, when every line in every budget everywhere is getting a good going over, the KHOU Channel 11 News I-Team has found that strict state laws on prostitution cost taxpayers $8 million a year in state prison expenses.
In addition to offering sassy repartee about the life from some of the former businesswomen, the story estimates that taxpayers in Harris County alone are also spending roughly $2. 3 million a year for the housing, care and feeding of prostitutes in the county jail. At the time of the reporting. 130 women were being held in Harris County Jail on charges of prostitution at a cost of a little less than $50 a day.
Texas is one of a handful of states. Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Illinois and Michigan are the others. Where repeat prostitution offenses can mean time, and additional costs, in state prisons, KHOU reported.
State Sen. John Whitmire, D-Houston, chairman of the Senate Criminal Justice Committee, said the prostitution laws in Texas are tough, but did not speculate on whether a tough state budget year might warrant leniency for prostitutes as a cost-saving measure.
The I-Team found some cost savings through a Harris County program called Success Through Addiction Recovery, but only a small number of women prosecuted for prostitution since 2003 have qualified for drug treatment rather than jail time. They should legalize prostitution and let them pay taxes. Regulate the brothels and you can order off the menu like brothels in Nevada. You'll have a line-up of girls to choose from and no need to hide from LE, it's a win win proposition.
DJP
Holden2012
10-22-11, 19:18
They should legalize prostitution and let them pay taxes. Regulate the brothels and you can order off the menu like brothels in Nevada. You'll have a line-up of girls to choose from and no need to hide from LE, it's a win win proposition.
DJPAmen, unfortunately your preaching to the choir!
Le is doing a sting on conkling don't pick up any new girls. The sitting in the Aldi parking lot Patty wagon with about 8 cars marked and unmarked as always be safe.
Le is doing a sting on conkling don't pick up any new girls. The sitting in the Aldi parking lot Patty wagon with about 8 cars marked and unmarked as always be safe.Yup. Big smiley BSW at top of Conkling and a disheveled but hot blonde near BP station.
Mpduration
05-10-17, 19:35
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotterJudging by the guys arrested, if the lady you're looking at states she refuses black guys under 30, you're good to go. Most of those guys wouldn't have made the first cut with many backpage girls.
Broken Arrows
05-10-17, 23:42
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotterSince most of Laurel is in PG County, these cops once again served only to bring crime that didn't exist into HoCo. Meanwhile, the Sun is reporting they're "not pressing charges" against that escaped convict that had everyone on edge when he escaped their custody.
So, to conclude: Consensual sex between adults = crime. Escaped potential killer = AOK!!
I assume at this point there has to be some state or federal grants behind all of this stupidity because it's not protecting or serving anyone. Follow the money.
SuperJimmy
05-11-17, 01:52
This is why I absolutely refuse to bother trying to hook up with any new escorts in backpage until they have some sort of review or two. It sure is hot along that route 1 corridor in PG / Howard county.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
Baltimoronic
05-11-17, 09:04
This is why I absolutely refuse to bother trying to hook up with any new escorts in backpage until they have some sort of review or two. It sure is hot along that route 1 corridor in PG / Howard county.I've been on this site for like 6 years now and very little good comes out of HOCO. The good BP providers won't even stay there because it frightens them and their customers. You are at least twice as likely to be involved in a sting if you go calling a HOCO ad. But it happens all the time. I don't know if people outside the site get that or if they're just trying to save commuting time or a couple dollars worth of gas. Repeat after me: The only time you do the deed in HOCO is if you pick up one of your dates in Northern AA County and you grab a notel room there.
Mpduration
06-29-17, 07:13
There was a bust at the Extended Stay America in Rockville, MD. Guy was busted after leaving hotel for 1/2 hour appointment.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/montgomery-county-prostitution-incident-blotter
IMO, always and I mean always look for carbon dating, a verifiable chronology, call it a paper trail to where providers have posted, and research on tele #'s. I usually first scope out a number via Google, doing a web search, then enter the number into FB search bar. If nothing comes up in the way of reviews deleterious or not, but there is a history or succession of posts, I might still be interested. I don't go by Escort Babylon too much although I have an account. There is a couple of guys up on there that just blast escorts, arbitrarily calling them junkies, or a waste, when they clearly have had solid reviews, loosing all credibility.
Some guys use tjnyeye, I don't myself. But doing your homework, exploratory research on options, service level, price points, and so forth is what we guys are best at. Being web savy helps in this department immensely, make no mistake MOCO, HOCO and PGCO are hotspots, avoid at your own discretion.
Selectively choosing wisely, cherry picking and weighing off a succession of pros and cons to seeing that right fit candidate gets her in like flint.
They are leasing companionship and services for coin rendered. I prefer getting cozy with these gals, in not falling in luv with them, but developing relationships where they get a regular that's consistent and loyal, not mixing it up with all of "Rocco fucks the world", crap, that's expensive and lofty, aside from running the risk of catching an STD.
My preferance and I Cleary been on record for doing this is overnights and what I call " protracted chill out sessions", having uplink connects to being able to get gals all the candy they can eat, preferably hanging out with a generous benefactor, just one guy, verses five or six for the evening and getting the same kind of coin and meds from just one. In the safety of a hotel, or apartment (although I am averse to bringing anyone now over, do to an incident of an overdose back at the crib).
Use your intuition, if for what ever reason something does not appear right, just walk away from it.
There was a bust at the Extended Stay America in Rockville, MD. Guy was busted after leaving hotel for 1/2 hour appointment.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/montgomery-county-prostitution-incident-blotterThis proves the point that you should never, ever talk to the police. Ever! If any one hasn't seen the instructional video, please advise and I will post it again.
Mpduration
06-29-17, 19:14
This guy requested BBFS. He also grabbed vice cops ass.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/prince-georges-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
JohnSmith16
06-29-17, 21:49
This proves the point that you should never, ever talk to the police. Ever! If any one hasn't seen the instructional video, please advise and I will post it again.I am new to this and have never seen the video.
BaltimoreFella
07-01-17, 01:28
I'm also interested in checking out the video. Is it on youtube?
I am new to this and have never seen the video.
Mpduration
07-01-17, 07:40
I am new to this and have never seen the video.https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/how-not-to-get-busted-in-a-sting
I am new to this and have never seen the video.Watch this from start to finish!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
Dank Dabs 42
07-09-17, 16:18
If you guys are ever on Reddit checkout (r / streetwalkers) they are trying to grow it so contributions are encouraged.
Noobalicious
07-09-17, 23:12
Watch this from start to finish!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eEHuge, huge thanks for sharing! I would have been one of the dummies shooting myself in both feet talking to a cop!
Mpduration
07-19-17, 00:58
They put up a warning on BP.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
JohnSmith16
08-09-17, 08:32
Watch this from start to finish!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eEThanks! I appreciate the information.
Thenocturnal
08-27-17, 18:27
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/florida/articles/2017-08-24/many-addicts-seeking-opioid-recovery-find-relapse-and-fraud
I've never done the street game, but since it seems to be the most active forum here, I end up reading the street section most of the time.
Seeing this article I had to think of the many stories "SoAnSo hit rehab but is already back on the street getting high". Appears in some cases there may be a reason for that beyond those that led to addiction in the first place.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/florida/articles/2017-08-24/many-addicts-seeking-opioid-recovery-find-relapse-and-fraud
I've never done the street game, but since it seems to be the most active forum here, I end up reading the street section most of the time.
Seeing this article I had to think of the many stories "SoAnSo hit rehab but is already back on the street getting high". Appears in some cases there may be a reason for that beyond those that led to addiction in the first place.I have written about it awhile back, the contention is this, everyone in the system wants the girls to stay hooked on meds. Here is the reasoning behind this insidious matrix. Florida is a desirable place to go into detox or rehab because of the climate, but there is no other state in the entire union that operates with a more nefarious agenda. LE dosen't go out of its way to stop drug sales in having questioned them directly because they are in record for saying "as soon as you take one guy down, three others spout up". So here is basically my theory, and I know this sounds like stretch, but here it goes, "public service community providers" have been folded into the mix as a part of the allure to visit Florida in the paradigm of a "tourist destination spot.
Men and women are sent there to clean up, but due to a corrupt system, are not given the tools for their sucess, are put into a position of being cast to the wolves and the cycle begins. Albeit, as hard as it seems to believe, you would have had to have known people that had been attending a program, or moreover had failed at it. How far up on the totem pole this scam goes is hard to say, but all I will say is it generates revenue for the state, due to pushing coin across the table, processing cases in the system, motels and hotels that get occupancy rates up in being booked (particularly off season) an inducement from mongers traveling to visit, and frequent spots like "paradise alley in Orlando" or lakeworth or any other hot spot where the girls can be found. Sex is in effect made into a business to deliberately put a young lady in a disadvantaged position where she is forced to placate her addiction by either working the street or getting up on BP.
We mongers are all apart of this system also, because we are buying into it. In a way, the women are impervious to being intermittently processed in getting busted going to the bed and breakfast for a few days or weeks getting checked for STD's and just like with fishing are on a "catch and release program" being re-released to the masses, wash, rinse, repeat. It's even common knowledge amongst seniors as to which providers have which STD's as to who over hears who while visiting the, clinic while in the slammer including those life affirming big "bugs".
So that's my take on it, the article reinforces a part of it. I have known of people that have lived large milking that system. Ahhhh, florida, the sunshine state.
Mpduration
10-31-17, 21:06
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
JohnSmith16
11-01-17, 17:49
[QUOTE=Mpduration;3605121]https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter[/QUOTEp].
Thanks for the post.
Mpduration
11-22-17, 01:58
They busted some pimps, looks like they are doing active patrols, looking for johns and pimps.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
Broken Arrows
11-22-17, 12:56
They busted some pimps, looks like they are doing active patrols, looking for johns and pimps.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotterThis is the handiwork of the county exec Bob Kittleman, who needs to keep the government grant money rolling in. If he doesn't bust "traffickers" and "pimps" how can he keep the imaginary crisis alive and keep getting his dollars?
When he's not doing this, he's allowing his cronies to put their loud, idiotic "microbrew" companies on quiet residential streets, angering all the longtime locals and making their lives miserable. I don't care who the Democrat is who runs against Kittleman, but I'm voting for him or her.
Thenocturnal
12-30-17, 16:28
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/drunk-woman-damages-300k-worth-of-art-after-bad-date-police-say/
https://nypost.com/2017/12/29/drunk-woman-caused-300k-in-damage-to-lawyers-art-collection-on-first-date-cops/
"Prosecutors say Buzbee, 49, told investigators that Layman got too intoxicated on their date, so he called her an Uber after they returned to his home. Buzbee said Layman refused to leave and hid inside the home, and that when he found her and called a second Uber, she got aggressive."Somehow, I suspect some important details have been left out of this story.
Here's what police are up to in neighboring Howard County:
"WASHINGTON Seven men and one teen have been charged with solicitation of prostitution following a sting operation at a Jessup, Maryland, Super 8 motel, Howard County police announced Tuesday. ".
https://wtop.com/howard-county/2018/01/7-men-1-teen-busted-howard-co-prostitution-sting/
It isn't as if Howard County is otherwise crime-free. An example:
"Two robberies occurred within six hours of each other in Howard County Monday night.
The first was just before 7 pm Along the 3000 block of Autumn Branch Lane in Ellicott City. Police say the victim was delivering a pizza when he says three men assaulted him and took his phone.
The second occurred before midnight when three suspects held up a pizza delivery driver on Hayshed Lane in Columbia. ".
http://www.wbal.com/article/291471/3/two-robberies-occur-within-hours-of-each-other-in-howard-county
HeyShooter
01-31-18, 21:28
Gents, this one is a good time. Knows how to please. She'll work with you on the donation too.
https://alligator.com.baltimore.escortbabylon.com/post/25709675/7025784928
Shooter Out!
Ginger Man
02-01-18, 07:12
Here's what police are up to in neighboring Howard County:
"WASHINGTON Seven men and one teen have been charged with solicitation of prostitution following a sting operation at a Jessup, Maryland, Super 8 motel, Howard County police announced Tuesday. ".
https://wtop.com/howard-county/2018/01/7-men-1-teen-busted-howard-co-prostitution-sting/
It isn't as if Howard County is otherwise crime-free. An example:
"Two robberies occurred within six hours of each other in Howard County Monday night.
The first was just before 7 pm Along the 3000 block of Autumn Branch Lane in Ellicott City. Police say the victim was delivering a pizza when he says three men assaulted him and took his phone.
The second occurred before midnight when three suspects held up a pizza delivery driver on Hayshed Lane in Columbia. ".
http://www.wbal.com/article/291471/3/two-robberies-occur-within-hours-of-each-other-in-howard-countyNever ever see a provider at a Jessup or Laurel Hotel. 100% of the stings are there and they do them frequently.
Unwrapped is becoming scarier by the day. This strain was found in the U.K. and imported from Southeast Asia, a bit vague. Beware fellow mongers, and stay safe for all of us.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/first-super-resistant-gonorrhea-reported-in-the-uk/
This is a repost, but we should all be on board with this before Uncle LEO goes too far:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repealstop-fosta-now
RustyMuffler
04-04-18, 18:36
Thanks for the head's up about this dicey area, GMan. As an occasional visitor to MD to partake in certain adult activities, I really appreciate the warning.
RM.
Never ever see a provider at a Jessup or Laurel Hotel. 100% of the stings are there and they do them frequently.
RustyMuffler
04-04-18, 18:54
In this day and age it seems we should be finding more cures to sexually transmitted infections, not letting the diseases take the upper hand in the war. (We did knock out HepC, but now we have to deal with this impending problem).
For now, science still appears to be on their side. As easy as the transmission is, we could all end up with it if we are not careful. So God help us if we don't get a handle on this bug before it is too late.
Hate to say it, but I'm going to have to wrap it up from now on. Every time. Ugh. It's like throwing a bucket of cold water on my cock.
Unwrapped is becoming scarier by the day. This strain was found in the U.K. and imported from Southeast Asia, a bit vague. Beware fellow mongers, and stay safe for all of us.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/first-super-resistant-gonorrhea-reported-in-the-uk/
Horsetrader
04-05-18, 07:28
In this day and age it seems we should be finding more cures to sexually transmitted infections, not letting the diseases take the upper hand in the war. (We did knock out HepC, but now we have to deal with this impending problem).
For now, science still appears to be on their side. As easy as the transmission is, we could all end up with it if we are not careful. So God help us if we don't get a handle on this bug before it is too late.
Hate to say it, but I'm going to have to wrap it up from now on. Every time. Ugh. It's like throwing a bucket of cold water on my cock.It doesn't look good. Pharmaceutical companies are not funding much development of new antibiotics. Very little money to be made from a medicine that is taken for only a few days. Their R&D is spent on problems where a patient will take the medicine for life.
The announcement on the webpage says there will be more information provided at 6 pm EDT today.
Baltimoronic
04-06-18, 16:57
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/howard/ellicott-city/ph-ho-11-arrested-prostitution-sting-20180406-story.html
No more shooting fish in a barrel, LEO. You can't have it both ways. No more backpage dragnets for you. Get off your asses and make some real arrests of real criminals.
BTW, I'm sure we're the "internet chat rooms" referenced in the article.
So the oThER site has now suspended US service as well. Huge.
Never ever see a provider at a Jessup or Laurel Hotel. 100% of the stings are there and they do them frequently.There is a new reported bust at.
DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Columbia.
The website www.cracker.com (used to be international backpage) has also been seized. Not sure where things stand at the moment.
Unwrapped is becoming scarier by the day. This strain was found in the U.K. and imported from Southeast Asia, a bit vague. Beware fellow mongers, and stay safe for all of us.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/first-super-resistant-gonorrhea-reported-in-the-uk/Wrap up in every way but maybe not needed now that T E are US portion of site is shutdown, Therapeutic on CL is gone ******** is gone. It is killing season.
Think Rub Maps went down too.
MaxxLapper
04-06-18, 20:44
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/howard/ellicott-city/ph-ho-11-arrested-prostitution-sting-20180406-story.html
No more shooting fish in a barrel, LEO. You can't have it both ways. No more backpage dragnets for you. Get off your asses and make some real arrests of real criminals.
BTW, I'm sure we're the "internet chat rooms" referenced in the article.Well said. They used to conduct stings so easily around election time. What will they do now to pat themselves on the back?
Think Rub Maps went down too.Its been fun guys. If you don't think this site is on the KILL list. You are still dreaming.
Steverino1968
04-06-18, 21:51
So the oThER site has now suspended US service as well. Huge.This really blows.
So the oThER site has now suspended US service as well. Huge.Use of a VPN resolves that one issue for the moment.
PellyMason
04-07-18, 00:07
Its been fun guys. If you don't think this site is on the KILL list. You are still dreaming.But that's all anyone can do: hope.
DriftingFan101
04-07-18, 01:28
The new STI going around is pretty scary, stay safe and wrap up, this is not some small time shit, this is like AIDs you avoid that shit like the plague.
Ginger Man
04-07-18, 06:56
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/howard/ellicott-city/ph-ho-11-arrested-prostitution-sting-20180406-story.html
No more shooting fish in a barrel, LEO. You can't have it both ways. No more backpage dragnets for you. Get off your asses and make some real arrests of real criminals.
BTW, I'm sure we're the "internet chat rooms" referenced in the article.Wow, I have drinks at that hotel from time to time, not on Route 1!
Never, ever hobby in a hotel in HoCo, never.
Jackbenimble17
04-07-18, 09:40
So the oThER site has now suspended US service as well. Huge.Just need to do a little research on how through a VPN. Go to the Nova board and see how.
Just need to do a little research on how through a VPN. Go to the Nova board and see how.Backpage. Ly.
Offshore account established.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/howard/ellicott-city/ph-ho-11-arrested-prostitution-sting-20180406-story.html
No more shooting fish in a barrel, LEO. You can't have it both ways. No more backpage dragnets for you. Get off your asses and make some real arrests of real criminals.
BTW, I'm sure we're the "internet chat rooms" referenced in the article.I guess they'll have to claim they're cleaning up the county through good old-fashioned police work and getting some real bad guys off the streets for a change. Which, of course, is what they should've been doing in the first place.
I suspect this is indeed one of the "internet chat rooms" described in the article. At least it will now be a lot more difficult for the cops to run publicity-stunt stings targeting mongers. Why should they go after folks engaging in what would otherwise be considered consenting adults activities were it not for the exchange of money?
Broken Arrows
04-07-18, 19:07
Think Rub Maps went down too.I was able to access this site as of 7 pm Saturday April 7. I noticed the cache file is there as well. The cache file is inaccessible for Backpage.com, which means Google must be working with the feds. Under normal circumstances, their cache files are accessible for a week or so after a site is removed.
It's really strange that after two decades of these sites, now is the time they're being targeted. Besides the fever-pitch hysteria about "trafficking" combined with #metoo, there has to be money driving this. Follow the money, esp. When it comes to politicians (on both sides). Some people are saying Hollywood is behind it:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180318/00493539444/hollywoods-behind-the-scenes-support-sesta-is-all-about-filtering-internet.shtml
Broken Arrows- I can't help but think this shitting down of the escort sites is part of a multi-pronged strategy to address the rampant opiod epidemic. As well as a sop to the #metoo crowd, and the holy rollers. This is something that politically makes too much sense for too many interest groups. The right gets to say they are promoting family values, the left gets to say they are stopping the exploitation of women, while the pres gets to say he is combating the opiod epedemic by cutting off a primary source of funding for it.
I don't think it is going to end anytime soon, nor doI think it will work. It will drive more women to the streets to walk, and the others to the strip clubs. Guys will go to the clubs to get take out numbers. Nothing will stop the worlds oldest profession, but it will make it less convenient.
Well said. They used to conduct stings so easily around election time. What will they do now to pat themselves on the back?Old fashion stings with TGTBT Decoys.
Steverino1968
04-08-18, 12:07
I find it interesting that no print outlet, or its corresponding online presence, has ever been prosecuted for publishing ads for escorts or massage parlors, or personal ads, which is exactly what backpage, etc. Are being prosecuted for. It would seem, then, that this content is acceptable in some forums, but not in others. Why? What is the real, underlying reason for the law, then?
I find it interesting that no print outlet, or its corresponding online presence, has ever been prosecuted for publishing ads for escorts or massage parlors, or personal ads, which is exactly what backpage, etc. Are being prosecuted for. It would seem, then, that this content is acceptable in some forums, but not in others. Why? What is the real, underlying reason for the law, then?The new law hasn't been signed and entered into the books yet so it seems existing laws are being used against BP. Generally speaking, the "teeth" and applicability of laws aren't really known until cases have been decided so BP should set the near term precedent. The imminent passage of the new law provides another basis for bringing charges so I'm guessing operators felt things we're getting too hot, especially considering the potential punishment if convicted.
Mpduration
04-08-18, 13:24
All of the paid ads were in crypto currency and they had ads for buying / selling of guns.
Ginger Man
04-11-18, 18:24
http://www.wwl.com/articles/louisiana-law-ban-sex-animals-wins-senate-vote-25-10
Ten? Really ten voted against this?
Um, are they feeling sheepish?
Ginger Man
04-11-18, 19:15
http://www.wwl.com/articles/louisiana-law-ban-sex-animals-wins-senate-vote-25-10
Ten? Really ten voted against this?
Um, are they feeling sheepish?
http://www.wwl.com/articles/louisiana-law-ban-sex-animals-wins-senate-vote-25-10
Ten? Really ten voted against this?
Um, are they feeling sheepish?No kidding GM That is well, b aaaaaaaaad. Good to see everyone again too.
Only human logic could be this twisted.
No kidding GM That is well, b aaaaaaaaad. Good to see everyone again too.
Mpduration
06-14-18, 22:41
http://wjla.com/news/local/3-arrested-human-trafficking-massage-parlors-md
There was another bust of massage parlors are few months ago in Anne Arundel county, Baltimore, Baltimore county, Harford county recently.
http://wjla.com/news/crime/2-women-offering-massage-services-arrested-in-maryland-for-prostitution-police-say
http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/new-york/authorities-prostitution-ring-operated-7-states-article-1.3899362
Mpduration
10-23-18, 15:01
Time to be careful.
http://wjla.com/news/local/hand-foot-mouth-disease-outbreak-johns-hopkins-university
https://dubofflawgroup.com/blog/prostitution/
Ignatius369
11-16-18, 16:20
Did anyone catch a tv news feature alleging that there were dozens of brothels opeating in Baltimore? I thought I saw the teaser on WBFF but I can't seem to track the report down.
Did anyone catch a tv news feature alleging that there were dozens of brothels opeating in Baltimore? I thought I saw the teaser on WBFF but I can't seem to track the report down.Knowing WBFF, the report, if it ever airs, isn't worth anyone's time.
Side note: anyone know whatever happened to the Howard County blotter? It hasn't been updated since 2017.
Knowing WBFF, the report, if it ever airs, isn't worth anyone's time.
Side note: anyone know whatever happened to the Howard County blotter? It hasn't been updated since 2017.I looked for the report on WBFF's web site as well as several of the other Baltimore-area TV and radio web sites but couldn't find it.
As for the Howard County blotter, who knows? One can only hope that the situation in Howard County will get better for mongers and providers soon in light of recent election results. The current county executive, who made cracking down on the hobby one of his top priorities, was recently defeated for re-election. Although it should be noted there are plenty of do-gooders on both sides of the political aisle.
I looked for the report on WBFF's web site as well as several of the other Baltimore-area TV and radio web sites but couldn't find it.
As for the Howard County blotter, who knows? One can only hope that the situation in Howard County will get better for mongers and providers soon in light of recent election results. The current county executive, who made cracking down on the hobby one of his top priorities, was recently defeated for re-election. Although it should be noted there are plenty of do-gooders on both sides of the political aisle.The owner was caught in a sting in 2016. The crackdown in Howard County in 2016 and forward can be attributed to his arrest among many things. Others were still running the site and just dropped dead around this time last year.
The owner was caught in a sting in 2016. The crackdown in Howard County in 2016 and forward can be attributed to his arrest among many things. Others were still running the site and just dropped dead around this time last year.If you're referring to the Beefeater500 site, the Howard County blotter hasn't been updated in almost a year: other parts of the site haven't been updated in much longer. However, it also became more of an anti-mongering site after the original owner was caught. It was good for seeing where Uncle LEO was active, but otherwise it was of little use in the last couple of years.
3 Hotels are on that block.
Sonesta Es Suites Columbia.
Hampton Inn Columbia.
Extended Stay America. Columbia.
Detectives arrest seven men in prostitution operation.
In an effort to deter prostitution and human trafficking in Howard County, police conducted an undercover operation Nov. 26, resulting in the arrest of seven men for solicitation of prostitution and related charges.
Officers arrested the would-be johns for soliciting prostitution at a hotel in the 8800 block of Columbia 100 Parkway in Columbia. As part of the operation, detectives placed fake ads on websites known by detectives to be used for prostitution. Men who called the number in the ad spoke with an undercover female officer who provided a meeting location upon the caller's request. When the men arrived and offered money for sex acts, they were arrested and charged with solicitation of prostitution and disorderly conduct.
3 Hotels are on that block.
Sonesta Es Suites Columbia.
Hampton Inn Columbia.
Extended Stay America. Columbia.
Detectives arrest seven men in prostitution operation.
In an effort to deter prostitution and human trafficking in Howard County, police conducted an undercover operation Nov. 26, resulting in the arrest of seven men for solicitation of prostitution and related charges.
Officers arrested the would-be johns for soliciting prostitution at a hotel in the 8800 block of Columbia 100 Parkway in Columbia. As part of the operation, detectives placed fake ads on websites known by detectives to be used for prostitution. Men who called the number in the ad spoke with an undercover female officer who provided a meeting location upon the caller's request. When the men arrived and offered money for sex acts, they were arrested and charged with solicitation of prostitution and disorderly conduct.
I hit on EB ad that used the Hampton Inn address, didn't go because it's HoCo. The ad was very well done, photos on point, quick response with address.
Monoxide
PS Thanks to this site and all the info you guys have provided over the yrs. about the activites in HOCO and laurel area, I've stayed out of those areas, unless I know the providers.
Mpduration
11-30-18, 23:32
Jessup:
https://www.howardcountymd.gov/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=YA3hjYwn4p8%3d&tabid=1599&portalid=0
North Laurel.
https://www.howardcountymd.gov/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=SX6eSKDzfZg%3d&tabid=1599&portalid=0
Mpduration
12-01-18, 02:17
https://www.howardcountymd.gov/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=SKpEvGJ_Snw%3d&tabid=1599&portalid=0
https://www.howardcountymd.gov/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=SKpEvGJ_Snw%3d&tabid=1599&portalid=0Thanks for posting this link and the links to the other robbery reports. So Howard County police officers are targeting mongers when they should be going after the real bad guys, such as the guy (or guys) who robbed these motels. The police officers' priorities are in the wrong place.
Mpduration
01-19-19, 12:24
Some providers are complaining that guys have stopped calling. I have been contacted multiple times this week by providers about seeing them and complaining no one is calling. Are you all seeing the same thing?
Some providers are complaining that guys have stopped calling. I have been contacted multiple times this week by providers about seeing them and complaining no one is calling. Are you all seeing the same thing?I've received no such calls, but I'm aware of at least one provider who changed plans in the wake of the shutdown and isn't visiting the Washington-Baltimore area this month as originally scheduled.
Baltmonger69
01-19-19, 14:14
Some providers are complaining that guys have stopped calling. I have been contacted multiple times this week by providers about seeing them and complaining no one is calling. Are you all seeing the same thing?
I've received no such calls, but I'm aware of at least one provider who changed plans in the wake of the shutdown and isn't visiting the Washington-Baltimore area this month as originally scheduled.I'm wondering when some gov ladies that are paycheck to paycheck will start opening up their legs.
SteveStone123
01-19-19, 15:07
I'm wondering when some gov ladies that are paycheck to paycheck will start opening up their legs.I also didnot get any calls as such from any providers whom I visit often. We will wait for those new ones due to shut down effect.
I'm wondering when some gov ladies that are paycheck to paycheck will start opening up their legs.Based on my dealings with some government agencies, I suspect they're more accustomed to screwing us over in other ways. However, I wouldn't be surprised if some federal workers start turning tricks should the shutdown continue. I stopped mongering for well over a year after losing my job during the last recession. When I resumed mongering, several of the providers I saw admitted they turned to escorting or giving massages in the wake of losing jobs.
Based on my dealings with some government agencies, I suspect they're more accustomed to screwing us over in other ways. However, I wouldn't be surprised if some federal workers start turning tricks should the shutdown continue. I stopped mongering for well over a year after losing my job during the last recession. When I resumed mongering, several of the providers I saw admitted they turned to escorting or giving massages in the wake of losing jobs.http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/pornhub-reports-spike-in-dc-porn-viewership-during-government-shutdown
Mpduration
01-22-19, 14:11
https://wtop.com/howard-county/2019/01/maryland-police-nab-8-men-in-prostitution-sting/
https://wtop.com/howard-county/2019/01/maryland-police-nab-8-men-in-prostitution-sting/They are so big on these entrapment stings. It really has little to nothing to do with human trafficking. Can't EVER talk about money. Can't ever try to get trim in Laurel / Howard County.
They are so big on these entrapment stings. It really has little to nothing to do with human trafficking. Can't EVER talk about money. Can't ever try to get trim in Laurel / Howard County.Most of the reports do not mention the address but it was in the 10100 block of Washington Boulevard which matches.
Valencia Motel & Efficiencies.
Washington Blvd and, Laurel, MD 20723.
Their prior busts were in the 9 XXX block.
I suggest avoiding the entire Route 1 corridor from Route 100 all the way down to DC.
RustyMuffler
01-22-19, 23:51
I was going to say the same thing, JJ. Stings like this one have nothing to do with stopping human trafficking. It is a total waste of time and valuable resources that could be used to go after the real problem, the scum who actually traffick in human beings. Law enforcement knows this doesn't help. So it is a lie for them to claim there is any connection. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Just how do poor, innocent girls / women who are trapped in a terrible trafficking situation get rescued from that world by running a sting to pick up a few guys who are just trying to meet a woman to pay for sex? There is zero chance of helping trafficking victims in this scenario. Those guys surely won't have any victims with them. If they did they would not be making arrangements to go see a prostitute.
And the age-old argument for stopping the demand-side is ludicrous. The demand is part of being human. There is not enough LE in the world to put a dent in the demand.
I'm frustrated with this LE tactic because it is such a huge waste. Not to mention it ruins some guys' lives over something that should be no one else's business except the two consenting adults who decide to meet.
I would applaud the police if they used strategies to actually go after and stop human traffickers. I certainly do not want to see a victim. In fact, if I ever ran across or found out about a victim, I'd do everything I could to get them help. And I want the perpetrators locked up for the rest of their lives. I know virtually every other guy on this board feels the same way.
They are so big on these entrapment stings. It really has little to nothing to do with human trafficking. Can't EVER talk about money. Can't ever try to get trim in Laurel / Howard County.
There was a new bust reported at 9700 block of Washington Blvd. In Laurel which corresponds to the.
ECONO LODGE.
Washington Blvd.
Laurel, MD 20723.
I suspect it was related to one of those Asian ads that pop up with a new telephone number and explicit descriptions.
Mpduration
01-30-19, 00:35
There was a new bust reported at 9700 block of Washington Blvd. In Laurel which corresponds to the.
ECONO LODGE.
Washington Blvd.
Laurel, MD 20723.
I suspect it was related to one of those Asian ads that pop up with a new telephone number and explicit descriptions.LE does drive by in the parking lot. There has also been drama with at least one provider keying a hobbyist car last summer.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/howard/ph-ho-cf-police-arrest-human-trafficking-0131-story.html
SuperJimmyC
01-30-19, 19:58
3-4 years ago, I used to visit at least gals that often operated out of all those hotels near the econo. I ran into the police in the parking lot on at least 5 occasions. When I was leaving but never was stopped.
Happy Mongering!
SJ.
LE does drive by in the parking lot. There has also been drama with at least one provider keying a hobbyist car last summer.
PurePressure
02-22-19, 15:16
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/patriots-owner-charged-with-2-counts-of-soliciting-prostitution/26471823?fbclid=IwAR045C8ZwOg475EHMK59pAIGDFn0llftgVg63hT2rkGRyeSfwl9HAEjc4zg
Let's see how this blows over.
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/patriots-owner-charged-with-2-counts-of-soliciting-prostitution/26471823?fbclid=IwAR045C8ZwOg475EHMK59pAIGDFn0llftgVg63hT2rkGRyeSfwl9HAEjc4zg
Let's see how this blows over.Le was allowed to place video and audio in rooms. Recorded over 27 clients in the act and Kraft twice. He Was a regular.
Ginger Man
02-22-19, 17:16
Le was allowed to place video and audio in rooms. Recorded over 27 clients in the act and Kraft twice. He Was a regular.Well now, it seems one of the girls flipped and planted the bugs. Lots of guys, "Hundreds" will be charged.
They say other big shots are going down. Coincidentally the Ravens owner lives in that town.
BlindSandal
02-23-19, 15:37
Le was allowed to place video and audio in rooms. Recorded over 27 clients in the act and Kraft twice. He Was a regular.A successful sting like this is going to motivate plenty of police departments to try and repeat this sting locally across the country. I am sure someone in vice wants a promotion that comes with a successful sting of this nature.
What a nightmare to be caught on video. Not much to argue about once a prosecutor plays someone's video in court. I wonder if this is going to hurt the massage parlors business.
BS,
BTW, you think someone as rich as Kraft could find some high quality discreet high end young lady. Of course Eliot Spitzer already knows that high end girls don't ensure discretion.
BTW, Kraft should rename the Patriots to the NE Poontangs. I could root for the Poontangs. Go Poontangs!
Dog Pound 99
02-23-19, 16:47
BTW, you think someone as rich as Kraft could find some high quality discreet high end young lady. Of course Eliot Spitzer already knows that high end girls don't ensure discretion.
BTW, Kraft should rename the Patriots to the NE Poontangs. I could root for the Poontangs. Go Poontangs!Being as rich and powerful as Mr. Kraft, he lives from an entirely different perspective than you and I. Not necessarily bad, or form a highbrow point of view, or above the law, or anything else distasteful like that. But just different. What brings him excitement, might bring you the opposite.
But one thing is certain, and after everything's said and done, this man is still on the prowl.
Rock on, Mr. Kraft!
So suppose Kraft went in and paid his $49 chose his therapist anf eentto the room. He gets naked like I do with my male sports massage therapist and then she touches him. If hene er sYs a word. Never directs the therapist, just leaves a flow after going with the flow. Otherthan he knew or shoukd have kown it was a bawdy house, has hedone anything wrong.
If you go to any of these placesand never mention a sex act butgo woth the flow that occurs naturally between adults and leavea tip what have you done wrong? I am askinthe legal minded in the hive minfld.
I might just chooseto hobby where it is legal in europe, canada, asia.
A successful sting like this is going to motivate plenty of police departments to try and repeat this sting locally across the country. I am sure someone in vice wants a promotion that comes with a successful sting of this nature.
What a nightmare to be caught on video. Not much to argue about once a prosecutor plays someone's video in court. I wonder if this is going to hurt the massage parlors business.
BS,
BTW, you think someone as rich as Kraft could find some high quality discreet high end young lady. Of course Eliot Spitzer already knows that high end girls don't ensure discretion.
BTW, Kraft should rename the Patriots to the NE Poontangs. I could root for the Poontangs. Go Poontangs!
Horsetrader
02-23-19, 20:06
BTW, you think someone as rich as Kraft could find some high quality discreet high end young lady. I have not visited that particular spa, but Florida has some absolutely beautiful spa girls. The last Florida spa girl that I visited was a knock out, prettier than what I experienced during the glory days of DC spas.
SuperJimmyC
02-23-19, 21:41
You MP guys better be careful.
How many mp type of operations are there in the Balti-Wash-NVA corridor? Getting someone on the inside is the trick. If I was in the MP business I'd also be careful. On the Kraft operation, was one room bugged or a bunch of rooms bugged? Was it totally random?
Yes, why didn't Kraft do the 5k-10k a visit operation with a fine, fine, fine babe - sworn to secrecy? Was he a cheapskate? Maybe he took a liking to one of the ladies there?
Happy Mongering!!
SJ.
A successful sting like this is going to motivate plenty of police departments to try and repeat this sting locally across the country. I am sure someone in vice wants a promotion that comes with a successful sting of this nature.
What a nightmare to be caught on video. Not much to argue about once a prosecutor plays someone's video in court. I wonder if this is going to hurt the massage parlors business.
BS,
BTW, you think someone as rich as Kraft could find some high quality discreet high end young lady. Of course Eliot Spitzer already knows that high end girls don't ensure discretion.
BTW, Kraft should rename the Patriots to the NE Poontangs. I could root for the Poontangs. Go Poontangs!
Horsetrader
02-24-19, 03:57
You MP guys better be careful.
How many mp type of operations are there in the Balti-Wash-NVA corridor? Getting someone on the inside is the trick. If I was in the MP business I'd also be careful. On the Kraft operation, was one room bugged or a bunch of rooms bugged?I've followed it because I go to some of the nearby spas. More information to come, but now it looks like there was one owner for about 10 spas, all are closed now.
I watched a 1 hour press conference with police and they implied that they had video recording devices in multiple rooms, I'm not sure if they were in multiple spas. The whole thing got started because of neighbor complaints. One printed rumor in the Orlando section implied the police faked a bomb scare to clear out the plaza and police entered and planted video and audio recording devices. Another backchannel rumor was that one massage girl was US citizen and she planted the recording devices. All done with court approval.
So suppose Kraft went in and paid his $49 chose his therapist anf eentto the room. He gets naked like I do with my male sports massage therapist and then she touches him. If hene er sYs a word. Never directs the therapist, just leaves a flow after going with the flow. Otherthan he knew or shoukd have kown it was a bawdy house, has hedone anything wrong.
If you go to any of these placesand never mention a sex act butgo woth the flow that occurs naturally between adults and leavea tip what have you done wrong? I am askinthe legal minded in the hive minfld.
I might just chooseto hobby where it is legal in europe, canada, asia.One thing I do know should the video surface online, I don't want to see Robert Kraft naked!
SteveStone123
02-24-19, 09:52
You MP guys better be careful.
How many mp type of operations are there in the Balti-Wash-NVA corridor? Getting someone on the inside is the trick. If I was in the MP business I'd also be careful. On the Kraft operation, was one room bugged or a bunch of rooms bugged? Was it totally random?
Yes, why didn't Kraft do the 5k-10k a visit operation with a fine, fine, fine babe - sworn to secrecy? Was he a cheapskate? Maybe he took a liking to one of the ladies there?
Happy Mongering!!
SJ.Yes I was also wondering why he didn't invite the girls whom he is interested in to a hotel room or so?
Yes I was also wondering why he didn't invite the girls whom he is interested in to a hotel room or so?We all have our kinks. Maybe going to a spa was one of his. He wasn't the only really, really wealthy guy they caught.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-usa-today-homicides-20180219-story.html
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-usa-today-homicides-20180219-story.htmlThat report is a year old, but it still demonstrates that Uncle LEO has his priorities in the wrong place by cracking down on mongers and providers while not doing enough to crack down on real and dangerous criminals.
That report is a year old, but it still demonstrates that Uncle LEO has his priorities in the wrong place by cracking down on mongers and providers while not doing enough to crack down on real and dangerous criminals.You are correct! There is one that just came out Friday. I copied wrong link. Good catch and I agree with your analysis concerning LE priorities.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-smerconish-questions-waste-of-police-resources-in-bob-kraft-arrest/
Saw on TV news. Young cop was found dead at Tim's. Reported to have ODed while partying with a girlfriend.
Be curious if police are covering up his relationship and he was with a SW.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-smerconish-questions-waste-of-police-resources-in-bob-kraft-arrest/I'll be interested to see if there is any evidence of sex trafficking. Fuckin' waste of resources is right. The cops spent MONTHS gathering their information and what do they get? Some misdemeanors issued? It's a goddamn travesty and I hope Bob Kraft and whoever else is caught up in this use their money and influence to make some changes, repeal SESTA, and get rid of the puritanical mindset of this damn country.
I'll be interested to see if there is any evidence of sex trafficking. Fuckin' waste of resources is right. The cops spent MONTHS gathering their information and what do they get? Some misdemeanors issued? It's a goddamn travesty and I hope Bob Kraft and whoever else is caught up in this use their money and influence to make some changes, repeal SESTA, and get rid of the puritanical mindset of this damn country.Sex trafficking is extremely rare in the AMP business. I would bet the farm that there was no trafficking involved in any of the places that were busted. The girls live in the spas because they don't have a job or income that they would care to put down on an apartment application--and they don't want to spend their money on an apartment and utilities anyway. The baloney about them not have independent transportation is just stupid--when they want to go somewhere they use cabs, Uber, buses, trains, airplanes. What do they want with a car? They want to make as much money as they can as quickly as they can so they can go home and buy their dream restaurant or shop, so they work 300 days a year. No need for a car in their lifestyle. Some send money home as the sole source of income for their families. Of course, there are some hoping to find an American husband. And there are some who spend their money as fast as they make it, so it becomes their career. But it's their choice.
Shut down the AMPs, and many will end up as streetwalkers. Not good.
The most, and worst, human sex trafficking involves American handlers and victims and takes place in hotels and other short term rental venues. That's where the authorities should be focusing their efforts. But it's more difficult to deal with. AMPs are easy targets for the politicians and police.
Bob Kraft is one of the most well known NFL owners. In most public areas he would be easily recognized. The spas probably gave him anonymity.
Elber Gonzalez
02-26-19, 08:53
I was going to say the same thing, JJ. Stings like this one have nothing to do with stopping human trafficking. It is a total waste of time and valuable resources that could be used to go after the real problem, the scum who actually traffick in human beings. Law enforcement knows this doesn't help. So it is a lie for them to claim there is any connection. They should be ashamed of themselves.Idk the process in Bmore, but in NOVA depending of the violation you can end up paying not only the fine, but also the "court fee" which sometimes can be higher than the fucking fine, I feel that PD instead wasting resources is investing, they always end up making money one way or other, smfh.
SteveStone123
03-06-19, 16:02
Family man mistakenly arrested in sex spa case plans to sue sheriff.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-man-mistakenly-arrested-in-sex-spa-case-plans-to-sue-sheriff-says-arrest-upended-his-life
Family man mistakenly arrested in sex spa case plans to sue sheriff.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-man-mistakenly-arrested-in-sex-spa-case-plans-to-sue-sheriff-says-arrest-upended-his-lifeI hope the mistakenly arrested man prevails. That sheriff needs to be put in his place.
RustyMuffler
03-07-19, 08:48
"While searching driver's license photos of*men named Patel in Martin County, They said*his license photo matched the look of a man seen on video the police had shot at the spa. ".
This sounds like the finest community security outfit in the history of USA Law enforcement.
Family man mistakenly arrested in sex spa case plans to sue sheriff.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-man-mistakenly-arrested-in-sex-spa-case-plans-to-sue-sheriff-says-arrest-upended-his-life
Mpduration
03-16-19, 20:47
I have gotten requests from 5 different providers asking for appointments. They are claim business is way down. One told that a lot of her regulars have stopped hobbying because of the partial government shutdown (some contractors are still laid off and will not be called back).
BlindSandal
03-16-19, 22:21
I have gotten requests from 5 different providers asking for appointments. They are claim business is way down. One told that a lot of her regulars have stopped hobbying because of the partial government shutdown (some contractors are still laid off and will not be called back).Mpd,
Sounds like fake news to me.
Govies are still doing their part for the cash young ball draining economy,
BS
I have gotten requests from 5 different providers asking for appointments. They are claim business is way down. One told that a lot of her regulars have stopped hobbying because of the partial government shutdown (some contractors are still laid off and will not be called back).A lot of people probably owed more on their tax return rather than the shutdown. Some owing 5-10 K. That's a lot of missed visits.
Horsetrader
03-17-19, 13:51
A lot of people probably owed more on their tax return rather than the shutdown. Some owing 5-10 K. That's a lot of missed visits.I've also seen a recent increase in text and WeChat messages from massage places.
I know 2 people who have always gotten tax refunds this time of year, but this year they both owe substantial money. They were both excited to see larger take home pay starting January 2018, they didn't even think of the difference between withholding and actual taxes.
I'm sure there is a trickle down financial effect that hurts the massage business this time of year, just as it hurts all non-essential goods and services businesses. I don't think it is a big deal.
I believe any recent downturn in AMP business is mostly due to the Florida AMP stings. It hit only a very few businesses, but many are running scared right now. Even the hottest AMP in Orlando (Golden Gate) has willingly closed their doors. I'll miss that place, but there will soon be a replacement somewhere in that area.
I have gotten requests from 5 different providers asking for appointments. They are claim business is way down. One told that a lot of her regulars have stopped hobbying because of the partial government shutdown (some contractors are still laid off and will not be called back).The shutdown has been over for a while, although some contractors are still affected. As Horsetrader noted, the Florida AMP raids are likely also having an adverse effect on business. I would also argue that an increasing outbreak of GPS (golden pussy syndrome) affecting a number of providers is contributing to the downturn. Sorry, but expecting a monger to pay $150-200 or more for what amounts to $60-100 service is unrealistic.
The shutdown has been over for a while, although some contractors are still affected. As Horsetrader noted, the Florida AMP raids are likely also having an adverse effect on business. I would also argue that an increasing outbreak of GPS (golden pussy syndrome) affecting a number of providers is contributing to the downturn. Sorry, but expecting a monger to pay $150-200 or more for what amounts to $60-100 service is unrealistic.I agree that GPS is a major factor and should be.
I will tell verbalize it every time, "can't expect everyone to pay like a baller!" All working with the same three holes, how they work them is the difference.
Mpduration
03-30-19, 02:45
https://www.wusa9.com/video/news/suspected-measles-case-in-st-marys-county-maryland/65-22e96ceb-8176-4b23-8568-11e48fa332a0
This could possibly shutdown the hobby temporarily if there is a large outbreak.
https://www.wusa9.com/video/news/suspected-measles-case-in-st-marys-county-maryland/65-22e96ceb-8176-4b23-8568-11e48fa332a0
This could possibly shutdown the hobby temporarily if there is a large outbreak.Most Americans are vaccinated against measles, so I doubt it will shut down the hobby. Still, it's good to be aware of such outbreaks and take appropriate precautions.
Where this could have an effect would be among providers born in other countries where vaccination against measles and other diseases is less common.
Horsetrader
03-31-19, 10:24
Most Americans are vaccinated against measles, so I doubt it will shut down the hobby. Still, it's good to be aware of such outbreaks and take appropriate precautions.
Where this could have an effect would be among providers born in other countries where vaccination against measles and other diseases is less common.Several years ago I picked up a girl who looked like she had measles. I couldn't see the problem until inside the notel and undressed.
I suspect that many of these girls were born and raised without modern medical care. They will be more vulnerable than the general population. And they will have no choice but to work until they are in very bad shape.
Several years ago I picked up a girl who looked like she had measles. I couldn't see the problem until inside the notel and undressed.
I suspect that many of these girls were born and raised without modern medical care. They will be more vulnerable than the general population. And they will have no choice but to work until they are in very bad shape.I never ran into that problem when I picked up streetwalkers way back when, but I suppose it's entirely possible. I haven't encountered any providers with rashes over the years, even among the various Asian providers I've seen.
Some Boomers who were vaccinated against measles in the 1960's, as I was, may need a MMR booster whether or not one has been exposed in the hobby. The vaccine most commonly available at the time wasn't as effective as the vaccine available today. I received a MMR booster a few years ago due to my line of work.
Mpduration
04-13-19, 01:56
I wonder if he came to greenbelt, MD and did expensing to of prostitutes.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/government-caught-in-prostitution-s
Mpduration
04-17-19, 13:24
He was recently arrested.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/fredrick-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
Ginger Man
04-18-19, 06:24
He was recently arrested.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/fredrick-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotterWidely and often discredited. Take it with a grain of salt.
He was recently arrested.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/fredrick-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
Widely and often discredited. Take it with a grain of salt.https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/04/16/randolph-smith-charged-hiv-spread-frederick/
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/04/18/woman-charged-with-prostitution-offenses/
It was only a matter of time until the neighbors complained.
SpiceOfLife
04-19-19, 09:24
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/04/18/woman-charged-with-prostitution-offenses/
It was only a matter of time until the neighbors complained.I had thought about hitting her up recently. I'm glad now that I didn't. Don't need my number or texts on her phone LOL.
Mpduration
04-20-19, 02:02
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/04/16/randolph-smith-charged-hiv-spread-frederick/Now they are saying 7 women have been infected with HIV.
https://wjla.com/news/local/knowingly-transmitted-hiv-dating-apps
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/04/18/woman-charged-with-prostitution-offenses/
It was only a matter of time until the neighbors complained.One look at her Facebook was all I needed to know she was going down the rabbit hole.
Phyuck Yiu
04-20-19, 17:39
One look at her Facebook was all I needed to know she was going down the rabbit hole.https://www.capitalgazette.com/news/...418-story.html
Phyuck!
Mpduration
04-28-19, 16:39
I know a lot of people who did not change their W4 withholding. Many are having to come up with an extra 2 K to 8 K to pay taxes.
I know a lot of people who did not change their W4 withholding. Many are having to come up with an extra 2 K to 8 K to pay taxes.I didn't change my withholding but still got a refund, although not as large as last year's. I even got a refund on my state taxes; I sent the state a check last year. The cost of health care is what's impacting my hobby spending far more than taxes right now.
I know some folks in the over-65 bracket who got royally screwed over. One of my housemates had to write a check this year after getting a refund last year. He's retired and lives on a modest pension, Social Security and some investment income. Another friend and his wife both turned 65 this past year and ended up paying a lot even though they're far from rich. I'm definitely keeping an eye on what changes are made since I'll be in that category in just a few short years.
I didn't change my withholding but still got a refund, although not as large as last year's. I even got a refund on my state taxes; I sent the state a check last year. The cost of health care is what's impacting my hobby spending far more than taxes right now.
I know some folks in the over-65 bracket who got royally screwed over. One of my housemates had to write a check this year after getting a refund last year. He's retired and lives on a modest pension, Social Security and some investment income. Another friend and his wife both turned 65 this past year and ended up paying a lot even though they're far from rich. I'm definitely keeping an eye on what changes are made since I'll be in that category in just a few short years.I know this forum is not supposed to be political but remember which party passed that "tax cut" next November and vote your pocketbook. I think our "every man's" taxes actually went up to pay for the tax cuts to the one percent.
I know this forum is not supposed to be political but remember which party passed that "tax cut" next November and vote your pocketbook. I think our "every man's" taxes actually went up to pay for the tax cuts to the one percent.I was simply making an observation. I don't hold either major party in high regard.
FYI, I spent several hundred dollars on a prescription over the weekend. At least I should meet my deductible soon and thus be able to increase my play budget, including my mongering budget, for the rest of the year.
https://www.capitalgazette.com/news/...418-story.html
Phyuck!Yeah I tried to contact her on Sunday. She only contacted so you text and will not call me to verify that she was who she was when I asked her to do so. She stopped responding. You never know who is on the other end of that text message could be LEO. I only wanted to verify that she was the one I was talking to you and she stopped responding. Not taking that chance unless I hear from a another monger that she is back in business.
Phyuck Yiu
04-29-19, 14:19
Yeah I tried to contact her on Sunday. She only contacted so you text and will not call me to verify that she was who she was when I asked her to do so. She stopped responding. You never know who is on the other end of that text message could be LEO. I only wanted to verify that she was the one I was talking to you and she stopped responding. Not taking that chance unless I hear from a another monger that she is back in business.Reviews mention her possibly working with pigs. Don't know if it's true, but just watch your six.
Phyuck!
https://escortbabylon.net/comments_list/4432128912
Barraquda22
04-30-19, 07:10
Looks like its her first time getting pinched. Doubt she would get turned on her first time, especially before a deal and verdict. Prolly being watched closely, but doubt she is cooperating with the porkers.
BQ22.
Reviews mention her possibly working with pigs. Don't know if it's true, but just watch your six.
Phyuck!
https://escortbabylon.net/comments_list/4432128912
Surfing for Fun
05-01-19, 09:14
This is a little north of here but some of you guys venture that way.
If you have been reading the Delaware boards you saw a guy that was running a group of girls got taken down by the authorities.
Somebody posted the federal arrest report / affidavit, everyone should read it to see how far they will go to take us down. It is very interesting as well as chilling.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qoubv9oziis87t/gov.uscourts.mdd.448235.3.0.pdf?dl=0
Barraquda22
05-01-19, 12:34
So sick of the human trafficking shit. Sure it has to happen to some degree. But for the most part, they arent forced into it, they are just desperate women in bad situations. The fuckin pigs are having to waste more time (our tax dollars) to get overly creative with ways to fuck with people anymore. If the same amount of time and effort was put into solving violent crimes, we would be a murder free society. But they are busy worrying about the relatively law abiding Joe that just wants to get off. What happens between 2 or more consenting adults and a donkey and its clown handler in the sanctity of their bedroom is their business. Legalize the shit and put a damn entertainment tax on it and call it a fucking day like all the other smart countries are.
*slides soap box back under the bed*.
BQ22.
Horsetrader
05-01-19, 14:36
So sick of the human trafficking shit. Sure it has to happen to some degree. But for the most part, they arent forced into it, they are just desperate women in bad situations. ... Legalize the shit and put a damn entertainment tax on it and call it a fucking day like all the other smart countries are.
*slides soap box back under the bed*.
BQ22.Of course, on this forum you are preaching to the choir.
There are also places where it is illegal, but the authorities allow it to happen. It's illegal in Thailand, but it happens in the open all over the Thailand. In Mexico, it is illegal, but there are certain zones of tolerance where it is allowed and there are no problems.
A short while ago I had a late massage at a place that was scheduled to be closed. I apologized to the girl and she typed something on her smart phone and showed me the English translation: "Help family China. " I certainly don't know how much of our money gets sent to starving families in Asia, but I'm confident that some of the money I paid was going to help her family in China. That sure didn't seem like human trafficking to me.
Several years ago I suspected trafficking in one place. I left, found a pay phone, and made an anonymous call to the local police. I gave the address and they told me that they needed my identity before they would investigate. I understand their position. So much for the concern of trafficking.
So sick of the human trafficking shit. Sure it has to happen to some degree. But for the most part, they arent forced into it, they are just desperate women in bad situations. The fuckin pigs are having to waste more time (our tax dollars) to get overly creative with ways to fuck with people anymore. If the same amount of time and effort was put into solving violent crimes, we would be a murder free society. But they are busy worrying about the relatively law abiding Joe that just wants to get off. What happens between 2 or more consenting adults and a donkey and its clown handler in the sanctity of their bedroom is their business. Legalize the shit and put a damn entertainment tax on it and call it a fucking day like all the other smart countries are.
*slides soap box back under the bed*.
BQ22.Not to mention collecting income tax--though I'm sure, as in most service businesses, not all the income would be reported.
MoonMonger
05-01-19, 21:23
This is a little north of here but some of you guys venture that way.
If you have been reading the Delaware boards you saw a guy that was running a group of girls got taken down by the authorities.
Somebody posted the federal arrest report / affidavit, everyone should read it to see how far they will go to take us down. It is very interesting as well as chilling.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qoubv9oziis87t/gov.uscourts.mdd.448235.3.0.pdf?dl=0Good info SFF.
If only they would be that meticulous in solving other real crimes, this world would be a much better place. Alas!
Mpduration
05-07-19, 16:20
Howard County, Maryland prostitution incident blotter. BeefEater500.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
Howard County, Maryland prostitution incident blotter. BeefEater500.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotterhttps://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/05/07/howard-county-prostitution-operation/
Setting up and arresting these 4 guys is just ridiculous. The county nor society as a whole is any better or safer as a result.
Clearly responding to ads where provider is in a notel in HC on route 1 is a NEVER.
BMoreDog69
05-07-19, 22:03
Posting about LE activity here is like saying you saw flies on shit. Yes, we all want to know about LE activity, but this area of Laurel is where LE does their thing to make it look like they're doing something. Don't even get me started on Beefeater.
Howard County, Maryland prostitution incident blotter. BeefEater500.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
Mpduration
05-07-19, 23:38
Posting about LE activity here is like saying you saw flies on shit. Yes, we all want to know about LE activity, but this area of Laurel is where LE does their thing to make it look like they're doing something. Don't even get me started on Beefeater.Folks were thinking that everything was a OK. I guess not anymore. In addition to jail time, outing, etc, They are now fining guys with $500. Funny with all the publicity, guys continue to get busted. They think they cause the activity to stop, what happens is more visiting providers show up, that drives up demand. Providers also know we have some major employers (race trace, NSA, Nestle Ice cream factory).
Folks were thinking that everything was a OK. I guess not anymore. In addition to jail time, outing, etc, They are now fining guys with $500. Funny with all the publicity, guys continue to get busted. They think they cause the activity to stop, what happens is more visiting providers show up, that drives up demand. Providers also know we have some major employers (race trace, NSA, Nestle Ice cream factory).Uncle LEO has got to dial it down a few notches. No one is being hurt by what these mongers were doing. "Human trafficking" is just another excuse they're giving us to put up with their bullshit.
There was some recent discussion in the Prince George's County forum about LE activity in the Laurel area. So far it mostly seems to be affecting Howard County, which has been hot from a mongering standpoint for quite some time. I've visited RL Spa in the Laurel area three times in recent months and never encountered any issues, but RL is located in Anne Arundel County rather than Howard. But it wasn't all that long ago that Anne Arundel LE cracked down on activity in some of the Laurel-area motels. For the time being it's probably best for mongers visiting the Laurel area to stick with established providers in locations other than one of those motels.
Posting about LE activity here is like saying you saw flies on shit. Yes, we all want to know about LE activity, but this area of Laurel is where LE does their thing to make it look like they're doing something. Don't even get me started on Beefeater.Since a lot of users are new to the forum, it's well worth it to have the reports. Even letting people know that the arrests take place in the same general area is good info, especially for someone new to the game. It seems like the guys who get busted are relatively new and therefore would have done well to check these reports to learn how to spot fakes, LE, or trouble or to know the best experiences guys here have had.
I appreciate all the effort long time posters have put into this forum. Every post is just a small part of the puzzle and a LE report may seem obvious to some but it's one more small but important and useful piece of the puzzle.
Mpduration
05-16-19, 19:19
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/05/16/md-attorney-general-indict-two-people-for-human-trafficking/
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/howard/ph-ho-cf-police-arrest-human-trafficking-0516-story.html
Mpduration
05-30-19, 15:15
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/anne-arundel-county-md-declares-war-on-prostitution
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/anne-arundel-county-md-declares-war-on-prostitutionEvergreen Massage 160 Ritchie Highway. Went about a year ago and for me it was strictly Legit. I guess YMMV. Article sounded like maybe big deal was the ladies did not have a massage license.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/anne-arundel-county-md-declares-war-on-prostitutionIs this really protecting public safety?
Ridiculous!
Is this really protecting public safety?
Ridiculous!Why doesn't Uncle LEO go after real criminals instead? I guess they have to keep the do-gooders happy.
Evergreen Massage 160 Ritchie Highway. Went about a year ago and for me it was strictly Legit. I guess YMMV. Article sounded like maybe big deal was the ladies did not have a massage license.I've visited Evergreen about 10 times in the past couple of years and it's always been a legit but very good massage. I can't believe it is anything more than a licensing issue that is getting played up by the press. I guess since all of the crime has been eradicated in AA county the police have time to worry about things like this!
This article convinced me to go and get rechecked today:
https://people.com/health/marcia-cross-anal-cancer-likely-same-hpv-strain-as-husbands-throat-cancer/amp/
Ignatius369
06-08-19, 15:13
From the CDC website:
Can I get tested for HPV?
No, there is currently no approved test for HPV in men.
This article convinced me to go and get rechecked today:
https://people.com/health/marcia-cross-anal-cancer-likely-same-hpv-strain-as-husbands-throat-cancer/amp/
https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/howard/ph-ho-cf-howard-prostiution-operation-0704-story.html#nt=oft06 a-4 la1.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/howard/ph-ho-cf-howard-prostiution-operation-0704-story.html#nt=oft06 a-4 la1.Such BS that LE focuses so much resources entraping men for attempting consensual acts.
Such BS that LE focuses so much resources entraping men for attempting consensual acts.And especially for acts which shouldn't even be against the law to begin with. Meanwhile, how much real crime is going unsolved or not being dealt with at all in Howard County?
Mannerism30
07-07-19, 00:12
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/05/02/ex-miami-university-professor-pleads-prostitution-case/3654894002/
Senior member different state got hemmed up.
Don't be this guy.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/05/02/ex-miami-university-professor-pleads-prostitution-case/3654894002/
Senior member different state got hemmed up.
Don't be this guy.The guy was specifically going for a 14 year old girl. Sorry but he deserves what he gets.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/05/02/ex-miami-university-professor-pleads-prostitution-case/3654894002/
Senior member different state got hemmed up.
Don't be this guy.It's one thing to get busted for pursuing a provider who advertised as 18 but is actually younger. It's quite another to pursue a provider whom you know to be legally underage. But something else which concerns me is how a federal investigator posted information to this forum. How come his handle wasn't revealed as well? How many other users here are really Uncle LEO in disguise? We need to be even more vigilant than before, even those of us who prefer not to mess around with providers young enough to be our granddaughters.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/05/02/ex-miami-university-professor-pleads-prostitution-case/3654894002/
Senior member different state got hemmed up.
Don't be this guy.Sometimes the nature of seeking out consensual encounters is predatory, just is, that is why people talk of fishing and fishing holes. Predatory nature toward children is in tolerable!
The vast majority if members are NOT this guy. The forum does a good job of not participating in or promoting that activity.
We must ALWAYS assume that LEO is here lurking in the shadows. I am positive that I have recieved private messages from LEO fishing for info. That is why I don't engage new members with limited post that never have contributed viable dreams. Hate the bad press for the forum, but not mad that a kiddie predator is facing consequences.
Noobalicious
07-07-19, 13:53
... But something else which concerns me is how a federal investigator posted information to this forum. How come his handle wasn't revealed as well? How many other users here are really Uncle LEO in disguise? ...Why didn't they reveal the IDs used by FBI? You're kidding right? They're never going to out how they conduct investigations & thereby help those who might be a target avoid them.
The info you need is right on the front page of the website. Admin already said LEO doesn't care about you pursuing legal-age providers; they want to catch those who go after underage girls. And I say more power to them. There's plenty of pussy for sale without trying to seek out underage pussy (that's really an FBI agent waiting to roll you up).
Why didn't they reveal the IDs used by FBI? You're kidding right? They're never going to out how they conduct investigations & thereby help those who might be a target avoid them.
The info you need is right on the front page of the website. Admin already said LEO doesn't care about you pursuing legal-age providers; they want to catch those who go after underage girls. And I say more power to them. There's plenty of pussy for sale without trying to seek out underage pussy (that's really an FBI agent waiting to roll you up).Tell that to Robert Kraft. At least he's fighting back and Uncle LEO will likely have to change tactics following judges' rulings in the Kraft case and related cases.
I'm not worried about pursuing potentially underage providers. I prefer women to girls. I am concerned about the tactic, used by various do-gooders as well as Uncle LEO, of applying the "trafficking" label to consenting adults behavior where an exchange of money is involved. The FOSTA / SESTA legislation enacted last year also changed the rules of the game.
Noobalicious
07-07-19, 21:21
Tell that to Robert Kraft. At least he's fighting back and Uncle LEO will likely have to change tactics following judges' rulings in the Kraft case and related cases.
I'm not worried about pursuing potentially underage providers. I prefer women to girls. I am concerned about the tactic, used by various do-gooders as well as Uncle LEO, of applying the "trafficking" label to consenting adults behavior where an exchange of money is involved. The FOSTA / SESTA legislation enacted last year also changed the rules of the game.Point taken.
However, none of it changes how I conduct myself because I know I'm not any more or less at risk of legal action than I was before ever hearing of this story (which is now a year or two old, according to the Admin & the article).
Also never assume anyone here is what they claim. Why should you? Anyone / everyone could be LEO. Anyone / everyone could just be a guy trying to find a woman for a consensual encounter.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/05/02/ex-miami-university-professor-pleads-prostitution-case/3654894002/
Senior member different state got hemmed up.
Don't be this guy.Uhm.
Soon after, on May 24, 2018, Armitage contacted the undercover agent. He said he was traveling to the Kansas City area and discussed days he could meet for sex.
Early in the conversation, court documents say, the agent told Armitage she was 14 years old. He asked for a photo, and the agent sent him one of a supposed 14 year old.
Armitage agreed to meet with her on May 30, 2018.
So that I have this straight: he explicitly went looking for a 14-year-old?
Nah. Get out of here with that mess. He can do every single minute. Not sorry.
The deputy police commissioner and his wife were robbed at gunpoint Friday night near Patterson Park. Yet Uncle LEO is worried about mongers.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-ci-cr-20190720-spdzol7pyzft3evewhta6f6l4i-story.html
Red Roof Inn Washington Blvd.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/howard/cng-ho-human-trafficking-arrest-20190723-t7ukdhxifvbwbjyyjyzo2auzgy-story.html
Duuuuuuude
07-23-19, 16:46
Man and woman charged with human trafficking at a Jessup motel.
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/man-an-woman-charged-with-human-trafficking-at-a-jessup-motel
The deputy police commissioner and his wife were robbed at gunpoint Friday night near Patterson Park. Yet Uncle LEO is worried about mongers.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-ci-cr-20190720-spdzol7pyzft3evewhta6f6l4i-story.htmlI could be wrong, but in years of following the Baltimore sex scene I haven't heard any police strings for prostitution in Baltimore City. All the police strings occurred in suburban counties.
I could be wrong, but in years of following the Baltimore sex scene I haven't heard any police strings for prostitution in Baltimore City. All the police strings occurred in suburban counties.I think they're referring to SWs of which there are plenty in Baltimore.
Arguably this should be on the MP thread, but it is a news report.
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/07/29/sex-trafficking-illicit-massage-parlors-cases-fail/1206517001/
Arguably this should be on the MP thread, but it is a news report.
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/07/29/sex-trafficking-illicit-massage-parlors-cases-fail/1206517001/If they decriminalize activities between CONSENTING ADULTS, they could focus on trafficking and pedophiles.
"Trafficking " is just a red herring. Big brother just selectively enforcing their morality.
Mpduration
08-21-19, 17:56
I guess they don't have situational awareness.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
Steverino1968
08-21-19, 18:18
If they decriminalize activities between CONSENTING ADULTS, they could focus on trafficking and pedophiles.
"Trafficking " is just a red herring. Big brother just selectively enforcing their morality.Absolutely! In years past, the chicks were considered common ****** by the authorities and prosecuted accordingly. TODAY, however, they've been magically transformed into VICTIMS of "human trafficking," whatever THAT is.
Absolutely! In years past, the chicks were considered common ****** by the authorities and prosecuted accordingly. TODAY, however, they've been magically transformed into VICTIMS of "human trafficking," whatever THAT is.From Homeland Security: Human trafficking involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act.
If there's no force, fraud, or coercion, it isn't human trafficking.
Member #6313
08-22-19, 06:49
I guess they don't have situational awareness.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/howard-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotterArticle says they use backpage.com How?
Steverino1968
08-22-19, 15:43
From Homeland Security: Human trafficking involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act.
If there's no force, fraud, or coercion, it isn't human trafficking.Come off it. The second a girl is picked up for prostitution these days, she's encouraged to concoct a story alleging "trafficking. " Moreover, the authorities are happy enough to go along with it because it enhances their prosecution record helps them justify increased budgets.
Come off it. The second a girl is picked up for prostitution these days, she's encouraged to concoct a story alleging "trafficking. " Moreover, the authorities are happy enough to go along with it because it enhances their prosecution record helps them justify increased budgets.I just gave the definition. You asked what it was, so I provided the definition. I agree with you. Actual human trafficking in spas and condo set-ups is rare. I don't need to "come off" anything.
HeadGameHunter
08-22-19, 16:16
Article says they use backpage.com How?Article from 2015.
Mpduration
09-12-19, 00:23
This is a good reason why not to flush condoms down the toilets. It will bust the sewer line.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/condoms-clog-up-sewer-in-north-laurel-maryland
This is a good reason why not to flush condoms down the toilets. It will bust the sewer line.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/condoms-clog-up-sewer-in-north-laurel-marylandYou're correct. Similarly one shouldn't pour cooking oil or grease down the drain for the same reason.
However, it's pretty ludicrous for whoever is running the Beefeater site these days to assume that all those condoms were used by mongers seeing providers. What about husbands and wives, or boyfriends and girlfriends, or even causal acquaintances hooking up? I'm sure there are plenty of other folks staying at the Econo Lodge besides providers.
SteveStone123
09-12-19, 07:12
You're correct. Similarly one shouldn't pour cooking oil or grease down the drain for the same reason.
However, it's pretty ludicrous for whoever is running the Beefeater site these days to assume that all those condoms were used by mongers seeing providers. What about husbands and wives, or boyfriends and girlfriends, or even causal acquaintances hooking up? I'm sure there are plenty of other folks staying at the Econo Lodge besides providers.I do remember some providers used to say not to flush them instead put it in trash and they will take care of it later.
I do remember some providers used to say not to flush them instead put it in trash and they will take care of it later.I've had several other providers ask me to take the used raincoats and dispose of them in a trash can away from the motel or incall location. I guess this keep them out of trouble, or so they think, as well as keeping the sewer clear.
BlindSandal
09-12-19, 20:35
I've had several other providers ask me to take the used raincoats and dispose of them in a trash can away from the motel or incall location. I guess this keep them out of trouble, or so they think, as well as keeping the sewer clear.TM,
I really must decline your less than generous offer,
BS
Mpduration
09-12-19, 22:46
I've had several other providers ask me to take the used raincoats and dispose of them in a trash can away from the motel or incall location. I guess this keep them out of trouble, or so they think, as well as keeping the sewer clear.You can use for donation. Re-use on the way out for the condom, and condom wrapper.
MoonMonger
09-12-19, 22:54
This is a good reason why not to flush condoms down the toilets. It will bust the sewer line.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/condoms-clog-up-sewer-in-north-laurel-marylandHaha. True story— friend of mine who's a plumber got called to the now defunct JHH (oh, how I miss Jenny's girls for those who can remember) for a clogged drain & pulled out literally hundreds of condoms. . They don't disintegrate like toilet paper & they don't get washed down stream. They just sits there & creates a back up. Personally, I'll take mine & disposes it myself. Don't want to leave any DNA evidence.
TM,
I really must decline your less than generous offer,
BSI didn't offer to do that. They asked or told me. In one case the request seemed legitimate; we were doing FS in what was supposed to be a non-FS MP. Other than that, I don't know why these gals wouldn't take the initiative to dispose of the Hazmat material appropriately. I should add it's been some years since I received a request to dispose of my own used raincoat.
Duuuuuuude
10-10-19, 08:55
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/10/08/4-charged-with-human-trafficking-after-2-women-rescued-from-baltimore-brothel/
Mpduration
11-19-19, 20:17
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/baltimore-city-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/baltimore-city-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotterLOL at 1:35 "A trafficker with 4 girls is making a million dollars a year. And that's tax free".
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/baltimore-city-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotterCan't actually back up with real evidence most of what are err ported and straight reporting untruths.
Mpduration
11-20-19, 21:11
https://www.wmar2news.com/news/crime-checker/baltimore-city-crime/police-conduct-prostitution-sting-in-south-baltimore-arrest-19-men
They are outing folks mugshots, names, ages on a another local news media website. Watch the video, looks like they are doing other neighborhoods where folks are complaining to police department.
Jack Knauf
11-20-19, 22:35
https://www.wmar2news.com/news/crime-checker/baltimore-city-crime/police-conduct-prostitution-sting-in-south-baltimore-arrest-19-men
They are outing folks mugshots, names, ages on a another local news media website. Watch the video, looks like they are doing other neighborhoods where folks are complaining to police department.In 2018, the overtime budget was $20 M. The actual cost was $47 M. The police department just doesn't have enough employees to sustain this. Think about it. 2 weeks worth of work to get 19 misdemeanors. Meanwhile, over 300 homicides so far this year. Looking at the news video, it's obvious that the commissioner just wants to get the citizens of those neighborhoods off his back for a while.
WhiteRabbit88
11-22-19, 15:20
Every time I hear about strings, I'm always thinking these set ups were mostly from ads like STG, adultlook, EB etc, and not streetwalkers, but I'm interested to hear other opinion otherwise. Based on this, I've always considered picking up SWs more "LE safe" vs calling up an escort since that's more of a safer approach for the officers dressed up in the act. (ofcourse there are other risk / safe concerns with SWs, but that's another kind of concerns).
So based on this article, it does sound like these stings were actually off of the streets, especially this quote from the article "The presence of prostitution in the streets affects the quality of life in Baltimore's neighborhoods". Anyone have thoughts they'd like to share or have any more insight on this? I'm specifically wondering if the risks of picking up SWs are now higher these days, from LE perspective and how much of this is fluff.
https://www.wmar2news.com/news/crime-checker/baltimore-city-crime/police-conduct-prostitution-sting-in-south-baltimore-arrest-19-men
They are outing folks mugshots, names, ages on a another local news media website. Watch the video, looks like they are doing other neighborhoods where folks are complaining to police department.
That is crazy and they let the drug dealers go free LOL.
Every time I hear about strings, I'm always thinking these set ups were mostly from ads like STG, adultlook, EB etc, and not streetwalkers, but I'm interested to hear other opinion otherwise. Based on this, I've always considered picking up SWs more "LE safe" vs calling up an escort since that's more of a safer approach for the officers dressed up in the act. (ofcourse there are other risk / safe concerns with SWs, but that's another kind of concerns).
So based on this article, it does sound like these stings were actually off of the streets, especially this quote from the article "The presence of prostitution in the streets affects the quality of life in Baltimore's neighborhoods". Anyone have thoughts they'd like to share or have any more insight on this? I'm specifically wondering if the risks of picking up SWs are now higher these days, from LE perspective and how much of this is fluff.
Every time I hear about strings, I'm always thinking these set ups were mostly from ads like STG, adultlook, EB etc, and not streetwalkers, but I'm interested to hear other opinion otherwise. Based on this, I've always considered picking up SWs more "LE safe" vs calling up an escort since that's more of a safer approach for the officers dressed up in the act. (ofcourse there are other risk / safe concerns with SWs, but that's another kind of concerns).
So based on this article, it does sound like these stings were actually off of the streets, especially this quote from the article "The presence of prostitution in the streets affects the quality of life in Baltimore's neighborhoods". Anyone have thoughts they'd like to share or have any more insight on this? I'm specifically wondering if the risks of picking up SWs are now higher these days, from LE perspective and how much of this is fluff.Streets and hotels are where the vast majority of stings take place. They are relatively cheap and easy to set up with minimal risk to bystanders (especially local tax-paying and voting bystanders). Massage parlors are much safer, but still subject to raids now and then--especially in an election year.
Safest are private homes and apartments (e. G. , Chinese condos). I've never heard of a client having trouble in an apartment / condo setup--though I guess anything is possible. It would be very expensive to rent an apartment, set up utility service, etc. For a sting in a place that might see only 4 or 5 clients total in a day--maybe 1 or 2 clients on game days in football season. If neighbors complain about an apartment / condo setup, the authorities will sometimes send in an undercover agent to act as a client, but all he can do is arrest the particular girl who gives him a massage without a license or offers sex for money. Highly unlikely there would be a full-scale, bust-down-the-doors police raid on a small apartment / condo business. That said, nothing in life is without some risk.
LibidoLuvr
11-23-19, 10:12
I agree with WhiteRabbit. Where and when are the stings taken place in the street?. And I'm not totally convinced that SWs are a part of this. Most of the SWs are out they because they have a habit and this is there way of supporting it. A don't think they have a pimp forcing them to be out there. And with ALL the murders in Baltimore City. The cops have time for this?
BlindSandal
11-23-19, 12:23
Streets and hotels are where the vast majority of stings take place. They are relatively cheap and easy to set up with minimal risk to bystanders (especially local tax-paying and voting bystanders). Massage parlors are much safer, but still subject to raids now and then--especially in an election year.
Safest are private homes and apartments (e. G. , Chinese condos). I've never heard of a client having trouble in an apartment / condo setup--though I guess anything is possible. It would be very expensive to rent an apartment, set up utility service, etc. For a sting in a place that might see only 4 or 5 clients total in a day--maybe 1 or 2 clients on game days in football season. If neighbors complain about an apartment / condo setup, the authorities will sometimes send in an undercover agent to act as a client, but all he can do is arrest the particular girl who gives him a massage without a license or offers sex for money. Highly unlikely there would be a full-scale, bust-down-the-doors police raid on a small apartment / condo business. That said, nothing in life is without some risk.J1,
I had an ATF who I saw for years out of her apartment and house. I liked it. Still coming and going I felt like I stood out just a little bit. But noone bothered me at all. I would hate it when my ATF would make me wait outside after I arrive when she knew all along when I was arriving. All is forgotten and forgiven once Stiff and I got inside.
On a nice early fall Saturday I went to see a PYT in a rowhouse. I get there and it looked like everyone in the neighborhood was outside working on their lawns. I suspect everyone on the street had a good idea to what I was up to. I had a good time but decided to never go back. I can see how neighborhoods might want to try and push this activity out of their neighborhood.
I have been to lots of hotels and notels. Never had a problem. I prefer to see ladies who had a history of Ads and good reviews. Ladies with some history allows me to find someone who I can see who I probably will enjoy and comes with little downside as an uncle LEO surprise. I have cancelled appointments when seeing a new lady should I show up at the hotel and I see uncle LEO in the parking lot. I have girls (even atfs) not answer the door when they saw something in the parking lot which they didn't like between the time I got their room numbers over the phone and when I got to their notel doors.
I have never been stopped by uncle LEO at any of the hotels/notels or meeting ladies in a neighborhood because I try to follow the driving rules and not being totally lit up while driving. Occasionally, I have been at a strip club and Stiff makes me call the ladies in my current rotation or in the area. Since I don't pick up street girls, I just don't have that exposure to uncle LEO. Should uncle LEO ever stop me in a neighborhood or notel parking lot I would just invoke my right to remain silent and let LEO ball me out and tell me that he doesn't want to see me around her any more and leave the area.
You can push the safety percentages in to your favor,
BS
J1,
I had an ATF who I saw for years out of her apartment and house. I liked it. Still coming and going I felt like I stood out just a little bit. But noone bothered me at all. I would hate it when my ATF would make me wait outside after I arrive when she knew all along when I was arriving. All is forgotten and forgiven once Stiff and I got inside.
On a nice early fall Saturday I went to see a PYT in a rowhouse. I get there and it looked like everyone in the neighborhood was outside working on their lawns. I suspect everyone on the street had a good idea to what I was up to. I had a good time but decided to never go back. I can see how neighborhoods might want to try and push this activity out of their neighborhood.
I have been to lots of hotels and notels. Never had a problem. I prefer to see ladies who had a history of Ads and good reviews. Ladies with some history allows me to find someone who I can see who I probably will enjoy and comes with little downside as an uncle LEO surprise. I have cancelled appointments when seeing a new lady should I show up at the hotel and I see uncle LEO in the parking lot. I have girls (even atfs) not answer the door when they saw something in the parking lot which they didn't like between the time I got their room numbers over the phone and when I got to their notel doors.
I have never been stopped by uncle LEO at any of the hotels/notels or meeting ladies in a neighborhood because I try to follow the driving rules and not being totally lit up while driving. Occasionally, I have been at a strip club and Stiff makes me call the ladies in my current rotation or in the area. Since I don't pick up street girls, I just don't have that exposure to uncle LEO. Should uncle LEO ever stop me in a neighborhood or notel parking lot I would just invoke my right to remain silent and let LEO ball me out and tell me that he doesn't want to see me around her any more and leave the area.
You can push the safety percentages in to your favor,
BSWith hotels, I was referring to the police setting up stings in a hotel room and luring clients in with an undercover female cop. Same with on the street stings. You are careful only deal with known quantities, so not a problem for you.
Safest are private homes and apartments (e. G. , Chinese condos). I've never heard of a client having trouble in an apartment / condo setup--though I guess anything is possible. It would be very expensive to rent an apartment, set up utility service, etc. For a sting in a place that might see only 4 or 5 clients total in a day--maybe 1 or 2 clients on game days in football season. If neighbors complain about an apartment / condo setup, the authorities will sometimes send in an undercover agent to act as a client, but all he can do is arrest the particular girl who gives him a massage without a license or offers sex for money. Highly unlikely there would be a full-scale, bust-down-the-doors police raid on a small apartment / condo business. That said, nothing in life is without some risk.Couldn't have put it better myself, Jokester1! I read that for the Lotus Flowerz / Star Bunnyz bust, there might've been one unlucky client caught up in that mess; however, it was primarily the couple running that show and the model (s) working that day. This isn't the norm since cops always thrive on "good publicity" and attention-grabbing headlines. Busting an agency with 3-4 arrests and possibly 1 (or 0) john tops isn't going to cut it. It looks better when they can bust 10-15 unlucky bastards AND shut down the place in one swoop. That way, it helps bolster their plea for more funding or to make whichever sheriff seems like he's doing something and / or look good during election season.
In conclusion, it's a LOT more difficult for cops to run an sting in a gated community near Tyson's Corner or Laurel Town Center or some other upscale apartment complex. They tend to stick out like a sore thumb, so always keep your head on a swivel and bounce whenever you feel the slightest tinge that something isn't right.
Speaking of busts, lots of good info on the wehavefuntimes situation up in Elkton in the Delaware forum.
If you don't believe how far LE will go, check out that page.
If you don't believe hiv comes into play, check out that page.
At $$#013 $ like this make things bad for every body. All he had to do was give the poor SW the money and be on his way. What a loser. I hope they throw the book at him.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-ci-cr-impersonating-officer-rape-20191227-j6j4zfb7fnbmlmr6oolbsg7gv4-story.html
LibidoLuvr
12-30-19, 18:00
At $$#013 $ like this make things bad for every body. All he had to do was give the poor SW the money and be on his way. What a loser. I hope they throw the book at him.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-ci-cr-impersonating-officer-rape-20191227-j6j4zfb7fnbmlmr6oolbsg7gv4-story.htmlUnbelievable. SMH. Why didn't he just pay for it in the beginning. It's strange cats out there.
SuperJimmy
01-01-20, 14:41
This is a very interesting new development.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Three-hotel-chains-in-Houston-sued-for-promoting-14942599.php
This is a very interesting new development.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Three-hotel-chains-in-Houston-sued-for-promoting-14942599.phpIf you're being trafficked or pressured into sex work without your enthusiastic consent, then there should be justice and accountability.
Now that's a world away from being an independent provider who is doing sex work as a choice and exercising agency over her body.
The problem is that I don't have a lot of faith that hotel chains and corporate training are able to spot the difference. And some chains like Marriott have a zero tolerance policy for any sex work.
Nevertheless, hotels that have policies specifically about trafficking and fail to perform due diligence should be held accountable.
This is a very interesting new development.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Three-hotel-chains-in-Houston-sued-for-promoting-14942599.phpI'm not sure how these hotel chains can legally be held responsible for the actions of individual hotel operators. For that matter, how do the individual hotel operators know how their rooms are being used unless they receive complaints about noise or high traffic from other guests? Also, were these providers indeed held against their will or is this another attempt by do-gooders to label all providers, even willing ones, as victims of trafficking? I guess we'll see how this plays out.
Mpduration
01-09-20, 19:16
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/baltimore-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
Looks like someone reported them via facebook.
https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/baltimore-county-maryland-prostitution-incident-blotter
Looks like someone reported them via facebook.
Reading that article...
Police observed the establishment and saw at least two clients go in and out of the establishment and later made contact with them.
Subject A told police...
Subject B told police...
...
Both subjects were told not to return to the location.
It's funny that today is Friday. They got let go it looks like, but if there was ever a time to reference this video, today is the day: https://youtu.be/uqo5RYOp4nQ.
Old Chinese Guy
01-10-20, 08:25
Reading that article...
It's funny that today is Friday. They got let go it looks like, but if there was ever a time to reference this video, today is the day: https://youtu.be/uqo5RYOp4nQ.Only thing I would omit is citing the 5th, that only pisses cops off, just STFU.
In a situation like that described below, nothing good comes from talking with the police. Everyone should watch the videos that have been posted here in the past of the law prof explaining why you shouldn't talk with the police nor let them search your car. Be polite, follow instructions, and if need be as a last resort, tell them you need to speak with an attorney.
Mpduration
02-01-20, 11:23
https://www.livemint.com/news/world/coronavirus-lurking-in-feces-may-reveal-hidden-risk-of-spread-11580556507678.html
https://www.livemint.com/news/world/coronavirus-lurking-in-feces-may-reveal-hidden-risk-of-spread-11580556507678.htmlI'm not a Greek fan anyway, but this news should make those who are nervous to say the least.
I'm not a Greek fan anyway, but this news should make those who are nervous to say the least.I am not a Greek fan, but I do not see where it matters. If you have a session with a provider infected coronavirus, then you will most likely catch it. This just adds another way to catch it. You could also be exposed to it in her bathroom even if you do not do Greek. Scary virus, lets all just hope they come up with a treatment or vaccine soon.
Old Chinese Guy
02-02-20, 07:53
I am not a Greek fan, but I do not see where it matters. If you have a session with a provider infected coronavirus, then you will most likely catch it. This just adds another way to catch it. You could also be exposed to it in her bathroom even if you do not do Greek. Scary virus, lets all just hope they come up with a treatment or vaccine soon.Guys, do you know how many deaths in the US last year were from the flu virus? 2018-2019 was 8000-10,000, this is just in the the US. How many deaths have there been world-wide from the corona virus so far? <500. I think we need to get some perspective here.
Guys, do you know how many deaths in the US last year were from the flu virus? 2018-2019 was 8000-10,000, this is just in the the US. How many deaths have there been world-wide from the corona virus so far? <500. I think we need to get some perspective here.I would not trust that number. The Chinese have been down playing corona. They wanted the tourist to keep coming and spending their money.
https://reason.com/2020/02/02/massage-parlor-panic/
https://reason.com/2020/02/02/massage-parlor-panic/Good read. Supports that multiple big city, high profile investigations have not found human trafficking at massage parlors.
There was a shooting on the Block Sunday Night / Early Monday. It's possible that the Block is going to be hot again. Watch yourselves.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-ci-cr-man-dead-fatal-shooting-homicide-20200210-srg373n64nh77nqcirfitlpziq-story.html
Human Trafficking Awareness Campaigns Are Feeding A Dangerous Myth.
https://apple.news/Ar_LNB2mLRVqgUgmggyRYcg
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/3-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-in-maryland-governor/2232627/
Maryland's public health laboratory in Baltimore confirmed the first three cases of COVID-19 in the state, Gov. Larry Hogan said.
Hogan declared a state of emergency.
...
The patients caught the virus while traveling overseas, the governor said in a news release.
The patients, a woman in her 50s and a married couple in their 70s, live in Montgomery County and are cooperating with health officials by retracing their steps since they returned to Maryland from their travels Feb. 20. All three have quarantined themselves at home.
WhiteRabbit88
03-06-20, 10:06
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/3-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-in-maryland-governor/2232627/Thanks for sharing. I'm probably going to lay low for a while to see how many more cases pop up over the next few days to gauge how rapidly this virus is spreading in this area. Stay safe guys.
Thanks for sharing. I'm probably going to lay low for a while to see how many more cases pop up over the next few days to gauge how rapidly this virus is spreading in this area. Stay safe guys.My company is cutting out all business related travel for the next 2 months. And since we're all over the country all meetings are now virtual. Since I'm in the prime demographic, I think it's best to lay low for a while.
Dobson.
Michael Taylor
03-06-20, 22:21
My company is cutting out all business related travel for the next 2 months. And since we're all over the country all meetings are now virtual. Since I'm in the prime demographic, I think it's best to lay low for a while.
Dobson.The opportunist in me sees competition going up and rates going down (ha). In all seriousness, laying low might be the right move. I'll probably do the same.
Thanks for sharing. I'm probably going to lay low for a while to see how many more cases pop up over the next few days to gauge how rapidly this virus is spreading in this area. Stay safe guys.There are a couple things that are a little scary about COVID-19 . It looks like people can spread the virus before they even show symptoms. It is rare, but some people catch virus and never exhibit symptoms. That means you can catch it from someone that seems totally healthy. I agree with WhiteRabbit, it might be time to lay low.
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-incubation-period-when-symptoms-appear.html
It looks like people can spread the virus before they even show symptoms. It is rare, but some people catch virus and never exhibit symptoms. That means you can catch it from someone that seems totally healthy.
What you're describing is called being "asymptomatic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymptomatic)". The incubation period on the virus is apparently upwards around 2 weeks before symptoms are likely to show, but they can show in as little as 2 days.
My company is cutting out all business related travel for the next 2 months. And since we're all over the country all meetings are now virtual. Since I'm in the prime demographic, I think it's best to lay low for a while.
Dobson.Industry conferences left and right are being cancelled. Working from home is now being "suggested" by some companies, and other companies are flat out requiring it.
Where it gets better: some clown in New Hampshire decided to ignore the containment order and went to an event so they exposed the other 175 people there. What's worse is that he works in a hospital.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/us/coronavirus-new-hampshire-dartmouth.html
I go to places and still see guys openly walk in and out of bathrooms without washing their hands or even using the automatic hand sanitizer dispensers some places put near doors (like what Wegmans does).
Yeah, I already decided that I'm laying low for a while.
I go to places and still see guys openly walk in and out of bathrooms without washing their hands or even using the automatic hand sanitizer dispensers some places put near doors (like what Wegmans does).
Yeah, I already decided that I'm laying low for a while.Not to make too light of a serious situation, but to me it's like a real-life scenario from that entertaining game set on normal difficulty where no one washes their hands and doctors aren't that effective at finding the cure. Until yesterday, I never fully appreciated the seriousness of this virus and blew it off as the media whipping everyone into a frenzy for ratings. But now I'm starting to see the sense in lying low like you guys for a bit.
What you're describing is called being "asymptomatic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymptomatic)". The incubation period on the virus is apparently upwards around 2 weeks before symptoms are likely to show, but they can show in as little as 2 days.
Industry conferences left and right are being cancelled. Working from home is now being "suggested" by some companies, and other companies are flat out requiring it.
Where it gets better: some clown in New Hampshire decided to ignore the containment order and went to an event so they exposed the other 175 people there. What's worse is that he works in a hospital.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/us/coronavirus-new-hampshire-dartmouth.html
I go to places and still see guys openly walk in and out of bathrooms without washing their hands or even using the automatic hand sanitizer dispensers some places put near doors (like what Wegmans does).
Yeah, I already decided that I'm laying low for a while.You are giving very good advice. Everything I have read stresses hand washing. They also recommend you avoid contact with your eye, ears and mouth when out in public until you wash your hands properly. They recommend you keep two weeks of food on hand. I am staying away from the AMPs for now. The AMP providers have close personal contact with too many people in a day. Unfortunate, because I was planning to visit RL Therapy in tthe next week or two.
They should really do something to this guy in New Hampshire. They say they are not going to, because the formal procedure was not followed, because he had not had the test to confirm he had it yet. They only "recommended" he stay home, but he is a health care provider and should have known better.
https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2020/03/coronavirus-update-alexandria-records-1st-first-case-loudoun-co-schools-closed-for-more-than-a-week/
RustyMuffler
03-12-20, 23:36
Any thoughts on this article? Comments?
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e69233ac5b60557280fbfce?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC9mb3J1bS9zaG93dGhyZWFkLnBocD8zNTc4LUdlbmVyYWwtUmVwb3J0cw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANLArHiNN9qbpppwQgxQ44-6zcYHuQ2hSyhWBBWmR_pVUH-pEeSnsjZhRyB1ZcYd_IHOd7_f8QdC0qXPgMLCwi-C7eJdSeJvDq1gbuZqXDQydlPc8DQNp-4RtCVz6w2oFK-_TM-vz2vc1qS3XQ9U2lQxI21pGiyMVb0l5QA5dOx6
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