Strip Club Reports

[StanleyStankas]

Where is this jack shop at? I didn't know there was any on Mannheim anymore. I know about the ones on Lake. Also, which flop house caught on fire? Mannheim is a shell of its former self. Not much going on anymore. Went to Louie's the other day and no dancers. Sucked.I'm old, illini. No further down the line somewhere in the melrose thread I believe, someone reported that they were putting those laminated cardboard signs up that said something to the affect that "oh since the strip clubs are closed come see me" and then a phone number which lead to a shack on lake. The one first reported was in front of j's and then I saw another in the dollar store strip center as I was exiting back on to heim northbound. Hope that clears it up. The flop house that caught on fire and now today I see they are already starting to tear it all down is the one that is on the east side of the street. Exactly where or to pinpoint it I will have to re-report as I am going back to the flea on Saturday. It's the one that said "kitchenettes" and not the one on the west side that says the same thing, however has a sign for day and weekly rates.

[StanleyStankas]

The signs that are popping up are the type one might put on the corner or a garage sale. There are several in multiple strategic locations along Mannheim. They all have the same number which is to one of those ridiculously overpriced rip off places on Lake. Clever marketing technique. If they get even 1 extra chump, it pays for those signs & then some.And now I am thinking that someone who is a manager at a shack or even one of the girls might have arranged for those and was a former worker at one of the bikini bars. Like we all have said and yep I fell prey to one back in the day as well, however I left after I knew I was not getting anything with the $80 entry fee and it all was going to go south from there, those places can't stay open without customers. I would think it's just dudes that have been bar hopping all night and figure WTF it beats beating off!

[Gurukkk12]

Went to Melrose park clubs looking for if / when they will reopen. Started at Bobby's 3-4 guys at the bar. 1 girl. Talked to the bartender, I think her name was Leslie, says that there looking to open up in April after the election. Stopped at Carl's and there was about a dozen guys with about 4-5 girls working. Dances were being given. Talked to one of the girls and she says the same thing, maybe open up after election. Anybody have any info about Leslie the bartender at Bobby's has a real nice rack, is she open for Otc business? We spent a while talking and flirting with each other.

[Kunderu]

Went to Melrose park clubs looking for if / when they will reopen. Started at Bobby's 3-4 guys at the bar. 1 girl. Talked to the bartender, I think her name was Leslie, says that there looking to open up in April after the election. Stopped at Carl's and there was about a dozen guys with about 4-5 girls working. Dances were being given. Talked to one of the girls and she says the same thing, maybe open up after election. Anybody have any info about Leslie the bartender at Bobby's has a real nice rack, is she open for Otc business? We spent a while talking and flirting with each other.Leslie is there for the money but you will not get anywhere with her outside of talking. Most of the time she will bad mouth the dancers just to have the customers spend their money on her (tips). A lot of the girls do not like her and some of the patrons as well. This is just what I have seen.

[Ump1969]

I've been reading the comments about the clubs with interest. I'm not surprised at the ones that reopened. You think Stone Park is not getting their cut, not to mention business license fees and taxes? But J's is not in Stone Park.

[Chicagorfp]

Here's the latest info from my recent tour:

After visiting Polekatz in Bridgeview just after midnight on March 17th (see my report in the Chicago thread), I drove to Carl's Bar in Stone Park and got there around 1:30 am or so.

Plenty of parking in the lot--there was no need to park on Mannheim proper. There was a $10 cover; the bouncers scan the bar code on your license (which I don't care for, but at least they ask you first), then there's a patdown, and then you're in.

Bought a pop, tipped the bartender, and then got dances from the following: (1) Michelle: petite Latina, not a very aggressive dance; (2) Kelly: petite White, very energetic and lots of fun; (3) Marilouise (unsure if spelling is right): thick Latina. About in between the other two. There was another Latina dancer, but she left before I could have an opportunity with her. Dances were all $20 each; rates at Louie's Lounge are better at $10, but who knows if or when they will have dancers again (on which see below).

So in the early afternoon on Wednesday, I was keen to see what was happening with Louie's and Bobby's and had some time to pay a visit to each. Louie's is pretty much dead; I bought a pop, tipped the bartender, and left when I finished my drink. There was just one other patron and zero dancers. It certainly smelled clean in there!

I then proceeded to Bobby's Bar: bought a pop, tipped the bartender; it was only a little less dead patron-wise. Only one "dancer" (Bella, white, thick) in street clothes who said there were no dances, but she could provide a massage, which I declined.

I reckon I'll check back in sometime in April. Good luck, everyone!

[Chicagorfp]

So I saw this posting on Louie's Instagram feed:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CM0NqR2gSYl/?igshid=1w59jnq9adwwl

It's a photo of four dancers and includes this sentence, "Back like they never left. " So I'm wondering if we have to wait until after Election Day, as mentioned further down this thread, to enjoy time with the ladies of Louie's.

At any rate it's something to hope for. I may have to make another field visit in the next week or so.

[Mayor Quimby]

So I saw this posting on Louie's Instagram feed:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CM0NqR2gSYl/?igshid=1w59jnq9adwwl

It's a photo of four dancers and includes this sentence, "Back like they never left. " So I'm wondering if we have to wait until after Election Day, as mentioned further down this thread, to enjoy time with the ladies of Louie's.

At any rate it's something to hope for. I may have to make another field visit in the next week or so.So, in the past few weeks, I've stopped in the various places along Mannheim & there have been ZERO changes. Bobby's is drawing crowds & there are often a few girls from J's that hang out especially when that hot bartender from there is working (I believe Annie/Anna?) So far none of them seem to be looking to make side cash. It seems they mostly found other jobs.

Louie's has been a total dead zone. The most I've seen in there is 3-4 customers at a time. I've been there when some of their girls stopped in but it was just to have a drink & say hello to the bartenders. A couple weeks ago, they were planning to host a Beer Pong tournament. They mentioned having several of the girls dressed sexy but not the typical lingerie as before. The idea was you could bid to have a girl as your Beer Pong partner. There was not going to be any dancing contact, just the BP. Maybe that's what those photo's are from? I may have to stop in this weekend to check it out. When I was in there, they were just sort of tossing the idea around. Maybe it will become a regular thing?

Carls seems to be going strong, just not my type place for some reason.

I've consulted my Magic 8 Ball as to whether or not things will return after the election & the 2 answers that came up are "Cannot Predict Now" & "Don't Count On It".

[Buddy Bear]

So, in the past few weeks, I've stopped in the various places along Mannheim & there have been ZERO changes. Bobby's is drawing crowds & there are often a few girls from J's that hang out especially when that hot bartender from there is working (I believe Annie/Anna?) So far none of them seem to be looking to make side cash. It seems they mostly found other jobs.

Louie's has been a total dead zone. The most I've seen in there is 3-4 customers at a time. I've been there when some of their girls stopped in but it was just to have a drink & say hello to the bartenders. A couple weeks ago, they were planning to host a Beer Pong tournament. They mentioned having several of the girls dressed sexy but not the typical lingerie as before. The idea was you could bid to have a girl as your Beer Pong partner. There was not going to be any dancing contact, just the BP. Maybe that's what those photo's are from? I may have to stop in this weekend to check it out. When I was in there, they were just sort of tossing the idea around. Maybe it will become a regular thing?

Carls seems to be going strong, just not my type place for some reason.

I've consulted my Magic 8 Ball as to whether or not things will return after the election & the 2 answers that came up are "Cannot Predict Now" & "Don't Count On It".Per the owners / barkeeps Louie's has brought in a dj / party promotion group to try to go more of the night club route in the evenings. They've gone all in- gotten rid of the pool table and turned the back area to VIP w / bottle service w / DJ table area. One of the dancers "Erica" I follow on snapchat posted vids of her and a few more of the nicer looking girls in all black like bottle girls. Place looked dead though.

Lingerie bar crowd and night club crowd are two very different groups, so they are fishing for new customers. That good luck with that (with no dancers / extras).

[SouthSideRed]

So I saw this posting on Louie's Instagram feed:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CM0NqR2gSYl/?igshid=1w59jnq9adwwl

It's a photo of four dancers and includes this sentence, "Back like they never left. " So I'm wondering if we have to wait until after Election Day, as mentioned further down this thread, to enjoy time with the ladies of Louie's.

At any rate it's something to hope for. I may have to make another field visit in the next week or so.I did look at some of the other pictures and spotted one of my favorites, Casey. The one with all the arm tats, last time I seen her she was working at All Stars. I wondered where she went off too, now I know.

[Chicagorfp]

...a dj / party promotion group to try to go more of the night club route in the eveningsIndeed, Buddy Bear, I agree: there are now in fact more Instagram posts along these lines. Here's one of them:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CM--DkpgrP0

Apparently April 9 at 9 pm and April 10 at 8 pm there will be events that use the new format, incorporating bottle service ($250), Vegas bombs ($5), and free cover (I guess for now). The post says you should "dress to impress": so they're definitely trying to attract a different crowd. I also noticed that their Instagram handle has a new suffix that reflects this new emphasis: "louiesloungeclub" rather then just "louieslounge".

Earlier this month, I nearly went to Carl's Bar again and had even got to the point of pulling in their lot when I decided to try something new. Using my handy dandy burner phone, I did some quick research and decided that it'd be better to check out All Star Bar & Grill, 7949 47th Street in McCook, which was not too far from Stone Park (about a 20 minute drive south). I hadn't been to All Star for five or ten years, and I found it to be a pretty solid alternative to the Mannheim scene. Look for my review in the Chicago strip club thread (#2901):

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5227-Strip-Club-Reports&p=5282112&viewfull=1#post5282112

[Lemeduyu]

Indeed, Buddy Bear, I agree: there are now in fact more Instagram posts along these lines. Here's one of them:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CM--DkpgrP0

Apparently April 9 at 9 pm and April 10 at 8 pm there will be events that use the new format, incorporating bottle service ($250), Vegas bombs ($5), and free cover (I guess for now). The post says you should "dress to impress": so they're definitely trying to attract a different crowd. I also noticed that their Instagram handle has a new suffix that reflects this new emphasis: "louiesloungeclub" rather then just "louieslounge".

Earlier this month, I nearly went to Carl's Bar again and had even got to the point of pulling in their lot when I decided to try something new. Using my handy dandy burner phone, I did some quick research and decided that it'd be better to check out All Star Bar & Grill, 7949 47th Street in McCook, which was not too far from Stone Park (about a 20 minute drive south). I hadn't been to All Star for five or ten years, and I found it to be a pretty solid alternative to the Mannheim scene. Look for my review in the Chicago strip club thread (#2901):

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5227-Strip-Club-Reports&p=5282112&viewfull=1#post5282112But no more dances? This whole concept change won't work for me.

[Chicagorfp]

But no more dances? This whole concept change won't work for me.Lemeduyu: I share your exact concern, for it's hard to discern if they're just being a bit coy about individual dances right now.

I'm willing to pay Louie's a visit just to get a lay of the land and bring back a field report on the new setup, but if it's a pure night club play--even if it features so-called bottle babes--then they'll have lost me as a customer. $250 bottle service holds no attraction to me: when I go to these clubs I just buy a $3 pop as I'm there for the women (whereas I can always drink at home). But maybe that just demonstrates that I'm not a "baller" and thus not in their new target market.

In a similar vein, I was following a dancer from Louie's on Instagram and since mid-March she's been promoting some sort of activity organized by a J&J Entertainment at a place called The Chill Spot, 2305 Saint Charles Road in nearby Bellwood. When I look at those posts, some of which includes video footage, it seems like more of a traditional night club experience with some dancers in lingerie or dance outfits getting tipped in one dollar bills, but nothing talking about individual dances:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CM8ZJt2h1Kn/

In the following post there are references to bottle servers--including JoJo from Louie's, bartenders, and dancers--including Winter from Louie's, but again no further details about one-on-one dances:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMJFTkkA61a/

A visit there would make for an interesting field report. I may very well TOFTT toward the end of this month (either Louie's or The Chill Spot or both).

This whole discussion reminds me of an old Latino club (now closed) that was attached to the Lido Motel in Franklin Park--I had written a brief review over 10 years ago and noted that the dancers basically didn't provide lap dances, but rather regular dances on a dance floor, some of them possibly intimate. At the time of my visit (again in 2010) only one white dancer was on hand who'd provide a lap dance and she seemed as confused about the setup as me. I wonder to what extent some elements of that scenario tie into this new direction. I'm not a fan at this juncture.

[SouthSideRed]

I was wondering since the elections took place a couple of days ago, any word on things opening back up?

[Chicagorfp]

I was wondering since the elections took place a couple of days ago, any word on things opening back up?Hi, SouthSideRed: I've heard nothing so far. I was busy with errands late Saturday night and wound up driving home around 1:15 am on Sunday, which took me past Louie's. I was debating about stopping in since this past weekend was their grand reopening, but my quick scan of the parking lot led me to decline visiting: the lot in front of Louie's was heavily packed with cars, as well as the lot to the east side, which is a valid place to park when one goes to Louie's. There were two Melrose Park PD squads in that lot dealing with someone. Even the much smaller lot to the west which I think is also valid for parking--but not sure--was full.

I'll admit that whoever Louie's hired to promote their events really got some folks to turn out, but all in all, I decided it'd be better to check things out at a different time. However, not all is lost: through the power of the Internet I could gain a sense of what was going on inside the club via Instagram--the following post is quite telling:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNk85AQABA0/

Examine the video clip in the above post: yes, lots of sexy women serving up drinks and stuff and dancing, well, with each other. But there seems to be nothing like one-on-one dancing, not even in the background of that footage. Also there's lots of phones out with folks taking pictures, likely for social media, which may constitute a privacy concern for some who have a significant other at home. This is markedly different than the prior iteration of Louie's which featured signs stating that patrons were not to take photos.

At this point I think the Louie's pivot toward a more pure nightclub play may not bode well for strip club aficionados, but perhaps we're still playing a waiting game here--at least that's my hope. One could also argue that the bottle babes at Louie's might be open to OTC action if one possesses that sort of charisma and social skills, but that differs markedly from the typical lingerie bar scenario. At this point, we also still need to analyze the situation at Bobby's, and I don't know if Carl's will improve at all with these shifts in the local market for the lack of competition may lead them to become complacent. This may oddly leave All Star in McCook--about 20 minutes away--as the best equivalent experience these days (on which see my prior March review in the Chicago thread).

That said, I do wish the owners of Louie's well. I'm thankful for all the fun I had in the past and, alas, this is probably their most viable path forward if they wish to remain profitable. As noted above, I do hope that there will be room in the future for individual dancing, but it's hard to keep that hope alive these days.

[Mayor Quimby]

I was wondering since the elections took place a couple of days ago, any word on things opening back up?So, after a few weeks since last venturing in to the area, I decided to check things out last Friday, here's what you found;.

First stop, Louie's, place had a handful of customers. I had a couple beers & hung out a while. There was a DJ & the door security possibly was off duty LE (maybe, had the look, vest etc). After about an hour, the place became absolutely packed. Several folks taking tables in the VIP side. Those tables require "bottle" service. You basically pay between 200 & 400 for top shelf bottle delivered to your table by hot "bottle girls" that dance around when delivering to your table. There is no lap dancing or any sort of contact. , It's all a flashy show. There didn't seem to be any type of shortage of cash flow that evening. All in all, not my scene.

Off to Bobby's. Much to my surprise, quite a crowd. Not a seat to be had at the bar & most of the high top tables taken. The pool tables were in use & the bartenders were hopping busy. People ordering rounds of shots on top of their regular drink orders. I saw a few familiar girls from J's, but they were just hanging out with friends drinking. I asked one that I know well what's going on, she said the bar has been busy lately. Talked to the bartender that also said that. Maybe people have been cooped up for so long they just need to get out?

I was shocked that both these places are so busy without the dancers. As I drove down Mannheim, the parking at Carls was so backed up with people trying to find where to put their cars & figured no way I wanted to even try to get in there. Also noticed the restaurant that occupies the once "Playpen" is now open & had people in there enjoying a meal.

Not so sure these places will even look to get the girls back. If they can get customers in spending money without the drama or risk of potential problems, why bother. Was sure a shock to see how packed these places are now.

[Visconti5683]

My work week is rough without Louies. I drove by polekatz today. Didn't stop just kept driving. Idk what it is. Maybe the valet parking or the atmosphere. I skip All Stars only because I don't like the ID scanning. I understand it probably means nothing but I I just avoid. I picture myself getting a call or letter about an incident or something that happened when I was there and it throwing a wrench in the home life. Paranoid I know. I just wish Louies and Jays were back to normal again. I think about Carl's but I assume they are probably packed all the time now. Has anyone been there around happy hour during the week? I like to sneak in around 3-5 for a few hours, beers, and dances but prefer to avoid crowds. I'd like to see my favorite Latina. Best booty around.


So, after a few weeks since last venturing in to the area, I decided to check things out last Friday, here's what you found;.

First stop, Louie's, place had a handful of customers. I had a couple beers & hung out a while. There was a DJ & the door security possibly was off duty LE (maybe, had the look, vest etc). After about an hour, the place became absolutely packed. Several folks taking tables in the VIP side. Those tables require "bottle" service. You basically pay between 200 & 400 for top shelf bottle delivered to your table by hot "bottle girls" that dance around when delivering to your table. There is no lap dancing or any sort of contact. , It's all a flashy show. There didn't seem to be any type of shortage of cash flow that evening. All in all, not my scene.

Off to Bobby's. Much to my surprise, quite a crowd. Not a seat to be had at the bar & most of the high top tables taken. The pool tables were in use & the bartenders were hopping busy. People ordering rounds of shots on top of their regular drink orders. I saw a few familiar girls from J's, but they were just hanging out with friends drinking. I asked one that I know well what's going on, she said the bar has been busy lately. Talked to the bartender that also said that. Maybe people have been cooped up for so long they just need to get out?

I was shocked that both these places are so busy without the dancers. As I drove down Mannheim, the parking at Carls was so backed up with people trying to find where to put their cars & figured no way I wanted to even try to get in there. Also noticed the restaurant that occupies the once "Playpen" is now open & had people in there enjoying a meal.

Not so sure these places will even look to get the girls back. If they can get customers in spending money without the drama or risk of potential problems, why bother. Was sure a shock to see how packed these places are now.

[SouthSideRed]

My work week is rough without Louies. I drove by polekatz today. Didn't stop just kept driving. Idk what it is. Maybe the valet parking or the atmosphere. I skip All Stars only because I don't like the ID scanning. I understand it probably means nothing but I I just avoid. I picture myself getting a call or letter about an incident or something that happened when I was there and it throwing a wrench in the home life. Paranoid I know. I just wish Louies and Jays were back to normal again. I think about Carl's but I assume they are probably packed all the time now. Has anyone been there around happy hour during the week? I like to sneak in around 3-5 for a few hours, beers, and dances but prefer to avoid crowds. I'd like to see my favorite Latina. Best booty around.I very much like going to All Stars, close to work, some nice girls, and really laid back. But like you I'm not crazy about the I'd scan that they do. Just look what happened at J's, something happens and the police come in and collect the video tapes. You think this would not happen at All Stars, you can count on it. Like you said do you really need a call from the police asking questions or somebody catching Covid and saying they got it at the bar. So now lets look at everyone who came in contact with that person and then contact them. As a victim of identity theft, I very careful who gets to see any of my personal info these days, specially a bar.

There was a point in time that the door man did not show up to later in the afternoon, so you could slip in and enjoy self with out being scanned. Or sometimes the door man would just let you slide by without it, but not anymore. I will just sit back and wait for Bobby's and Louie's to get rolling again and head back to Melrose Park.

[Visconti5683]

Exactly what I'm thinking. Every time I drive past All Stars it's one of those things where I slow down make a loop and keep going. I don't think it would wreck my household if something happened but definitely put me on a shorter leash. I Don't need that. I really hope things work out soon for our favorite spots. I think I will check out Carl's next week and see how it's looking. I'm hoping to find Rosie or Rosa. Latina with my favorite ass out of most so far. Like I said just don't want to deal with the crowd though. Haha I guess I'm getting older and trying to avoid crowds these days.


I very much like going to All Stars, close to work, some nice girls, and really laid back. But like you I'm not crazy about the I'd scan that they do. Just look what happened at J's, something happens and the police come in and collect the video tapes. You think this would not happen at All Stars, you can count on it. Like you said do you really need a call from the police asking questions or somebody catching Covid and saying they got it at the bar. So now lets look at everyone who came in contact with that person and then contact them. As a victim of identity theft, I very careful who gets to see any of my personal info these days, specially a bar.

There was a point in time that the door man did not show up to later in the afternoon, so you could slip in and enjoy self with out being scanned. Or sometimes the door man would just let you slide by without it, but not anymore. I will just sit back and wait for Bobby's and Louie's to get rolling again and head back to Melrose Park.

[Chicagorfp]

I think I will check out Carl's next week and see how it's looking.Just an FYI. The last time I went to Carl's about a month ago it was after midnight and their door security was looking to scan eveyrone's license or ID with a handheld scanner when they collected the cover charge and did the security patdown. I went back and re-read my original report from March (post 1006 in this thread) and it seems that they at least ask you before they do the scan.

Anyway, we just can't seem to escape these scanners--I don't like them one bit as it's yet another risk factor one must weigh. The first time I ever experienced that was at Kappa Kabanna down near Bloomington-Normal a few years back: the person in the security booth asked for my license and then they walked across their booth to, unbeknownst to me, scan it. Before I could object the deed was done. Oh well. Going forward in my strip club reviews I think I'll be sure to highlight whether or not they scan (in the pros and cons) for people's increased awareness.

[Visconti5683]

I stopped by earlier this week and no I'd scan. It was around 5-6 though. It's exactly the same as I remember it being so that is nice. Low key and not crowded at all. Only a few girls which is expected at that time. I had 4 or 5 dances with a nice Latina in pig tails but I didn't get her name. She was fun. Nothing crazy but easy going and I enjoyed it. Still keeping my fingers crossed that the good spots go back to normal one day. Wishful thinking probably.


Just an FYI. The last time I went to Carl's about a month ago it was after midnight and their door security was looking to scan eveyrone's license or ID with a handheld scanner when they collected the cover charge and did the security patdown. I went back and re-read my original report from March (post 1006 in this thread) and it seems that they at least ask you before they do the scan.

Anyway, we just can't seem to escape these scanners--I don't like them one bit as it's yet another risk factor one must weigh. The first time I ever experienced that was at Kappa Kabanna down near Bloomington-Normal a few years back: the person in the security booth asked for my license and then they walked across their booth to, unbeknownst to me, scan it. Before I could object the deed was done. Oh well. Going forward in my strip club reviews I think I'll be sure to highlight whether or not they scan (in the pros and cons) for people's increased awareness.

[Illini333]

How many of those jack shacks are still opened on Lake and North? I was on lake recently in Addison and didn't see any. Use to see a lot.

[ChicagoGoer]

Anyone if they are sticking to their normal hours? Assuming being one of the only games in town would bring talent from the other Melrose places. Trying to visit after lunch time if they haven't changed their hours.

[SouthSideRed]

Anyone if they are sticking to their normal hours? Assuming being one of the only games in town would bring talent from the other Melrose places. Trying to visit after lunch time if they haven't changed their hours.They open at noon, Monday thru Saturday and three on Sundays.

[Hockey Guy]

How many of those jack shacks are still opened on Lake and North? I was on lake recently in Addison and didn't see any. Use to see a lot.This jack shack got closed down after the murder right in the parking lot there. Been closed for many years.

[Ump1969]

I don't question any of the strip club reports. I simply find it depressing. They are actually packed without any dancing? Hell, I can get a cold beer at any bar! That's not why I ever went to strip clubs or dance bars!

[SouthSideRed]

I don't question any of the strip club reports. I simply find it depressing. They are actually packed without any dancing? Hell, I can get a cold beer at any bar! That's not why I ever went to strip clubs or dance bars!Stopped in at Bobby's during the week in the afternoon to see if anything has changed. The answer would be NO, it was me and one dancer in the whole place. Like you said, I can drink just blocks from home and don't need to drive to Melrose for a drink.

[Chicagorfp]

They open at noon, Monday thru Saturday and three on Sundays.ChicagoGoer and SouthSideRed: I filed an update earlier today that discusses my last two visits to All Star in the main Chicago thread:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5227-Strip-Club-Reports&p=5334218&viewfull=1#post5334218

I had a fun time on my afternoon visit: look out for Brooke, Lena, and Naima.

[NiceChicaGaGuy]

ChicagoGoer and SouthSideRed: I filed an update earlier today that discusses my last two visits to All Star in the main Chicago thread:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5227-Strip-Club-Reports&p=5334218&viewfull=1#post5334218

I had a fun time on my afternoon visit: look out for Brooke, Lena, and Naima.I've always liked All-Star, but on the Chicago scene it was always an also-ran compared to the strip joints and the Stone Park / Melrose places. Now it's the place to go. Who woulda think it?

[SouthSideRed]

ChicagoGoer and SouthSideRed: I filed an update earlier today that discusses my last two visits to All Star in the main Chicago thread:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5227-Strip-Club-Reports&p=5334218&viewfull=1#post5334218

I had a fun time on my afternoon visit: look out for Brooke, Lena, and Naima.I have always liked Brooke, met her a couple of years ago when she was working at Bobby's. All it takes is a couple drinks in her and her craziness comes up. But seeing how she is working at All Stars, I will just have to wait to she heads back North.

[Grumpy83]

Dropped off someone at O'Hare late this morning so since I was half way to Bobby's I decided to check it out. I have read the latest reviews but I stopped. Got there a about noon, 3 guys and that was it. Got a beer and hit 300 on the slot machine. Went to the bar dropped off my beer, left a tip. She asked how I did and I told her I lost. Sad, but what are you going to do.

[SouthSideRed]

Dropped off someone at O'Hare late this morning so since I was half way to Bobby's I decided to check it out. I have read the latest reviews but I stopped. Got there a about noon, 3 guys and that was it. Got a beer and hit 300 on the slot machine. Went to the bar dropped off my beer, left a tip. She asked how I did and I told her I lost. Sad, but what are you going to do.That's a shame, my last few to Bobby's has been the same. I stop there for the same reason, airport drop offs and pick ups. I was hoping that by the next holiday this month things would change.

[Ohboy]

Hoping there has been some changes on the strip. I miss my trips, but I'm 40 minutes away, and would like some fresh intel. Before I drive out. Thanks if anyone has any updates.

[Mayor Quimby]

Hoping there has been some changes on the strip. I miss my trips, but I'm 40 minutes away, and would like some fresh intel. Before I drive out. Thanks if anyone has any updates.Still nothing much happening. Carls is the only place along the Mannheim strip that still has dancers (with the exception of the gentlemen's clubs). They have a cover but not sure if it's only on the weekends. A lot of the girls from J's & Bobbys now dance there. Nothing stellar, just a typical lingerie bar with low mileage dances.

Bobbys has made the transition to a regular bar pretty well. Weekends get a good crowd & some of the J's dancers hang out there but just to get free drinks. No dances, maybe takeout but I have not found that to be the case.

Louie's is trying to make it as a club scene place, with VIP tables & bottle service, but no dancers or contact etc. Not to mention the bartenders have become absolutely mean. I saw one snap at a guy for pausing to decide what he wanted to drink. On one of my visits, I could not take the attitude of the bartender so I left & went to Bobbies. Saw 3 guys that did the exact same thing. I know they are losing money with the loss of the dancers, but there's still customers stopping in, don't chase them away!

[Visconti5683]

Rough times for sure. I've actually been getting higher mileage at Carl's lately. The half Asian / Mexican girl is a great time. I also finally found my huge booty Latina. I guess she never left but was only working weekends and I'm always stopping in during the week. I have the # for both so will see how that plays out. I really just want Louies back. The dances and all that were great but I loved the atmosphere as well. My fingers are still crossed that something changes.


Still nothing much happening. Carls is the only place along the Mannheim strip that still has dancers (with the exception of the gentlemen's clubs). They have a cover but not sure if it's only on the weekends. A lot of the girls from J's & Bobbys now dance there. Nothing stellar, just a typical lingerie bar with low mileage dances.

Bobbys has made the transition to a regular bar pretty well. Weekends get a good crowd & some of the J's dancers hang out there but just to get free drinks. No dances, maybe takeout but I have not found that to be the case.

Louie's is trying to make it as a club scene place, with VIP tables & bottle service, but no dancers or contact etc. Not to mention the bartenders have become absolutely mean. I saw one snap at a guy for pausing to decide what he wanted to drink. On one of my visits, I could not take the attitude of the bartender so I left & went to Bobbies. Saw 3 guys that did the exact same thing. I know they are losing money with the loss of the dancers, but there's still customers stopping in, don't chase them away!

[Northside]

I have to say that I am missing "Tiffany" from the Play Pen / J's. Yeah she was old, but she was reliably fun. I'm guessing she's retired. I'm also guessing she is a large part of why J's was closed. But, I still miss the fun.

[Chicagorfp]

On an earlier June weekend, I managed to spend time at Carl's at night, for as Visconti5683 aptly notes, they are the only action in Melrose Park / Stone Park in terms of lingerie bars. Had good times with Foxy (petite AA MILF), Jasmine (thick, white), and Maddie (or Maddy) (mixed or Latina, med build).

I didn't sync so much with Anna, an extremely sexy Latina spinner, but who never once turned to face me during the dance--it was all booty and not sensual, nor would I repeat with Emily, a thick AA with huge breasts--she was my type body-wise, but was extremely quiet--she said nothing beyond her name to me; even though I tried to engage in conversation with her, she just offered me a thin smile that didn't look genuine. Maybe she was having a bad night? Also had a dance with Ruby, who was very athletic--too much bouncing to the point that I was in pain--and no grinding / not sensual. She was also a high pressure seller, which was a turn off.

Did I mention that I miss the old Louie's?

[SouthSideRed]

On an earlier June weekend, I managed to spend time at Carl's at night, for as Visconti5683 aptly notes, they are the only action in Melrose Park / Stone Park in terms of lingerie bars. Had good times with Foxy (petite AA MILF), Jasmine (thick, white), and Maddie (or Maddy) (mixed or Latina, med build).

I didn't sync so much with Anna, an extremely sexy Latina spinner, but who never once turned to face me during the dance--it was all booty and not sensual, nor would I repeat with Emily, a thick AA with huge breasts--she was my type body-wise, but was extremely quiet--she said nothing beyond her name to me; even though I tried to engage in conversation with her, she just offered me a thin smile that didn't look genuine. Maybe she was having a bad night? Also had a dance with Ruby, who was very athletic--too much bouncing to the point that I was in pain--and no grinding / not sensual. She was also a high pressure seller, which was a turn off.

Did I mention that I miss the old Louie's?I have been to Carl's a couple of times (years ago) and have never really seen any dancers there, that is how I wind down at Bobby's. At what time do they actually have dancers working at Carl's?

[Chicagorfp]

At what time do they actually have dancers working at Carl's?The times I've gone to Carl's when dancers were featured was after 9:00 pm On a weekend night (Fri / Sat). Other folks may have to chime in with respect to different days and times.

[Visconti5683]

I go week days after work so I would say I get there about 4-5 and there are dancers. If I remember correctly a few years ago that wasn't the case. These past few months there have been more dancers early evening on the week days then before.


The times I've gone to Carl's when dancers were featured was after 9:00 pm On a weekend night (Fri / Sat). Other folks may have to chime in with respect to different days and times.

[Visconti5683]

I just got word from a reliable source that girls will be dancing again at Louies either this week or next week (not sure yet). Has anyone else heard anything? I'll report back as I know more but I'm thinking things may be getting back to normal here.

[Al Melrose]

Dropped my son off O'Hare last Monday. Figured I would check in at Carl's. Got there around 11, place was dead, looked to be less than ten customers. I only saw one girl working, but others could have been in locker room and even at back seating area. They wanted $10 and an I'd. I figured not worth it, bought some beer at liquor store next door and headed home.

[StanleyStankas]

Dropped my son off O'Hare last Monday. Figured I would check in at Carl's. Got there around 11, place was dead, looked to be less than ten customers. I only saw one girl working, but others could have been in locker room and even at back seating area. They wanted $10 and an I'd. I figured not worth it, bought some beer at liquor store next door and headed home.Mister melrose. You don't mention, however I think I read in the forum here further down. They are now scanning I. D. s as well? I know when I leave the flea on saturdays late afternoon louie's looks crowded. Carls I don't really know as it seems more of an after dark place. Since the situation at j's went down the whole area seems dead though. I would think these little villages are making amendments to licenses now that there have been problems. It will be interesting to see what goes in at j's, I know playpen is still dead or at least the last I checked. I'll be out looking around over the next three days and report in if there is something of interest. Stosh be careful all.

[SouthSideRed]

Mister melrose. You don't mention, however I think I read in the forum here further down. They are now scanning I. D. s as well? I know when I leave the flea on saturdays late afternoon louie's looks crowded. Carls I don't really know as it seems more of an after dark place. Since the situation at j's went down the whole area seems dead though. I would think these little villages are making amendments to licenses now that there have been problems. It will be interesting to see what goes in at j's, I know playpen is still dead or at least the last I checked. I'll be out looking around over the next three days and report in if there is something of interest. Stosh be careful all.Thanks for the updates on what's going on with the bars in the area. I was just wondering what is keeping them at bay (covid, shooting, etc) and how long it is going to last. I work in the area every now and then, and enjoy a beer and dance after work.

[StanleyStankas]

Thanks for the updates on what's going on with the bars in the area. I was just wondering what is keeping them at bay (covid, shooting, etc) and how long it is going to last. I work in the area every now and then, and enjoy a beer and dance after work.Mr. South side. However one of the guys that is an over seer I like to call them in melrose does security for the flea. What I didn't know and this all happened right around the time of the shooting and murder at j's (read down in melrose here) as some of the guys actually know the girls, there was also a killing that wound up as a car chase through the city and out in this area to near that real strip club at lake and mannheim. There's a couple of places right there to the east of heim on the north side of lake. These private clubs and really I don't know what they have other than the obvious one that has been there for years. So that said there were two immediate murders and then I am sure when covid hit it was all over. I doubt darts boys are going to allow j's to ever come back as it was as surveillance tape was confiscated and then this all hit the media so the politicos are just not going to allow this on their watch. I mean that entire area up and down heim from say after the hill which under is addison so say south of belmont all the way until lake. Those notels, the day rate places, kitchenette rooming houses, slot joint and shot and a beer joints and of course those biikini bars we used to call them it's been shady for 60 years and no one has made any changes. It's really a depressed area. Not dangerous really as there are some decent homes and communities on both sides. So it's a wait and see imo.

[SouthSideRed]

Mr. South side. However one of the guys that is an over seer I like to call them in melrose does security for the flea. What I didn't know and this all happened right around the time of the shooting and murder at j's (read down in melrose here) as some of the guys actually know the girls, there was also a killing that wound up as a car chase through the city and out in this area to near that real strip club at lake and mannheim. There's a couple of places right there to the east of heim on the north side of lake. These private clubs and really I don't know what they have other than the obvious one that has been there for years. So that said there were two immediate murders and then I am sure when covid hit it was all over. I doubt darts boys are going to allow j's to ever come back as it was as surveillance tape was confiscated and then this all hit the media so the politicos are just not going to allow this on their watch. I mean that entire area up and down heim from say after the hill which under is addison so say south of belmont all the way until lake. Those notels, the day rate places, kitchenette rooming houses, slot joint and shot and a beer joints and of course those biikini bars we used to call them it's been shady for 60 years and no one has made any changes. It's really a depressed area. Not dangerous really as there are some decent homes and communities on both sides. So it's a wait and see imo.You think the city would be happy to re-open the bars for dances again, just to get the tax income from the businesses. The few times I have been at the bars here, it has been a ghost town, maybe one or two guys having a beer. Can't make much tax income from that kind of business. But on a happy note, I have been saving a lot of money!

[Mayor Quimby]

You think the city would be happy to re-open the bars for dances again, just to get the tax income from the businesses. The few times I have been at the bars here, it has been a ghost town, maybe one or two guys having a beer. Can't make much tax income from that kind of business. But on a happy note, I have been saving a lot of money!So, I have been holding off on commenting here until I heard from one of the people I trust to get back to me with the straight story. As things stand now, there has been no reversal on the dancer ban for Melrose Park. None of the bars we consider the lingerie / bikini bars are allowed to have dancers by ordinance. The question has come up regarding why the Gentlemens clubs can & it has to do with the entertainment license. That license comes along with requirements like security, capacity etc. That doesn't mean bars won't stop trying to figure a way around the ordinances. That's how the lingerie bars started. They called it a Fashion show, used an outside company to run it & sold raffle tickets instead of charging for a dance. All ways of stepping around the rules. If you may recall, since the dancer ban, Louies tried bringing the girls back a few different ways. They were just customers (that happened to dance for other customers), as massage girls etc. Each time they did that they received a slap on the wrist. The last time it happened, the bartender & the girls all received hefty tickets / fines (500-750 each). So that's what keeps them at bay to answer that question. Please note, this is all confirmed information.

As far as lost business goes, the ones that are hurting are the bars & that does absolutely suck. I have been going to these places for a few decades & I hate to see this happening. The rest of Melrose isn't likely to feel it. Keep in mind how big Melrose Park actually is. Consider things like car dealerships, grocery stores, home centers, etc. , the village isn't going to feel the pain of losing tax revenue from 3 bars. Costco & Menards alone completely dwarf anything that came in from these places. The occasional tank of gas or drive through meal any of us got isn't a make or break for any of those businesses (it's not like it's the only place I ever got these things). Stone park is a different story. It's tiny compared to Melrose. I don't know if there's a gas station, grocery store or any major business in that small town. They definitely can use that money & that's most likely the reason they reversed the ban on Carls.

I have not been in to Louie's lately & have not asked anyone if they are aware of any changes there. I may go in & see for myself & see but I've sort of steered away from that whole area in the past few months. I've been asked if I have any affiliation to these bars or any other entity & the answer is no. I just happen to know a few business owners in the area (not bars or clubs or anything related to this scene) & they keep up on what's going on with things & really seem to know the right people for credible fact based info.

The status of J's & Playpen has come up. Playpen is completely no more. The building is home to a Mexican seafood restaurant now called La Ancla. The only snapper you're likely to get there will be on a plate with a side of rice. As far as J's goes, it's my understanding is they were permanently stripped of all licenses & permits to operate & will not be allowed to reopen. What happens to the building is yet to be determined.

[StanleyStankas]

So, I have been holding off on commenting here until I heard from one of the people I trust to get back to me with the straight story. As things stand now, there has been no reversal on the dancer ban for Melrose Park. None of the bars we consider the lingerie / bikini bars are allowed to have dancers by ordinance. The question has come up regarding why the Gentlemens clubs can & it has to do with the entertainment license. That license comes along with requirements like security, capacity etc. That doesn't mean bars won't stop trying to figure a way around the ordinances. That's how the lingerie bars started. They called it a Fashion show, used an outside company to run it & sold raffle tickets instead of charging for a dance. All ways of stepping around the rules. If you may recall, since the dancer ban, Louies tried bringing the girls back a few different ways. They were just customers (that happened to dance for other customers), as massage girls etc. Each time they did that they received a slap on the wrist. The last time it happened, the bartender & the girls all received hefty tickets / fines (500-750 each). So that's what keeps them at bay to answer that question. Please note, this is all confirmed information.

As far as lost business goes, the ones that are hurting are the bars & that does absolutely suck. I have been going to these places for a few decades & I hate to see this happening. The rest of Melrose isn't likely to feel it. Keep in mind how big Melrose Park actually is. Consider things like car dealerships, grocery stores, home centers, etc. , the village isn't going to feel the pain of losing tax revenue from 3 bars. Costco & Menards alone completely dwarf anything that came in from these places. The occasional tank of gas or drive through meal any of us got isn't a make or break for any of those businesses (it's not like it's the only place I ever got these things). Stone park is a different story. It's tiny compared to Melrose. I don't know if there's a gas station, grocery store or any major business in that small town. They definitely can use that money & that's most likely the reason they reversed the ban on Carls.

I have not been in to Louie's lately & have not asked anyone if they are aware of any changes there. I may go in & see for myself & see but I've sort of steered away from that whole area in the past few months. I've been asked if I have any affiliation to these bars or any other entity & the answer is no. I just happen to know a few business owners in the area (not bars or clubs or anything related to this scene) & they keep up on what's going on with things & really seem to know the right people for credible fact based info.

The status of J's & Playpen has come up. Playpen is completely no more. The building is home to a Mexican seafood restaurant now called La Ancla. The only snapper you're likely to get there will be on a plate with a side of rice. As far as J's goes, it's my understanding is they were permanently stripped of all licenses & permits to operate & will not be allowed to reopen. What happens to the building is yet to be determined.In my book you are our president! All of this makes sense as an observer and being up here for a few years now I get around the area all the time so I have been nodding my head in confirmation all of your appreciated intel. I was just going to post that pen was now a restaurant as well. Since the flea opened up down there and I have not been visiting the little self serve car wash near fullerton I take another way down and over to lake and heim. Looks like that with all of the negative publicity those little pockets are being exposed. J's I mean yea who really knows, however what was will never be again imo. Even that kitchenette flop house that burned several months ago is still in the same condition! Again you go up to rosemont and it looks like little vegas. You go east on north and melrose has an abundance of tax revenue from major retailers. Then you go down by lake in that little pocket west on lake at heim and north on heim through stone and yep it's just little places. Some of which have been there for years and years!! Thanks again, mayor! Stosh.

[SouthSideRed]

So, I have been holding off on commenting here until I heard from one of the people I trust to get back to me with the straight story. As things stand now, there has been no reversal on the dancer ban for Melrose Park. None of the bars we consider the lingerie / bikini bars are allowed to have dancers by ordinance. The question has come up regarding why the Gentlemens clubs can & it has to do with the entertainment license. That license comes along with requirements like security, capacity etc. That doesn't mean bars won't stop trying to figure a way around the ordinances. That's how the lingerie bars started. They called it a Fashion show, used an outside company to run it & sold raffle tickets instead of charging for a dance. All ways of stepping around the rules. If you may recall, since the dancer ban, Louies tried bringing the girls back a few different ways. They were just customers (that happened to dance for other customers), as massage girls etc. Each time they did that they received a slap on the wrist. The last time it happened, the bartender & the girls all received hefty tickets / fines (500-750 each). So that's what keeps them at bay to answer that question. Please note, this is all confirmed information.

As far as lost business goes, the ones that are hurting are the bars & that does absolutely suck. I have been going to these places for a few decades & I hate to see this happening. The rest of Melrose isn't likely to feel it. Keep in mind how big Melrose Park actually is. Consider things like car dealerships, grocery stores, home centers, etc. , the village isn't going to feel the pain of losing tax revenue from 3 bars. Costco & Menards alone completely dwarf anything that came in from these places. The occasional tank of gas or drive through meal any of us got isn't a make or break for any of those businesses (it's not like it's the only place I ever got these things). Stone park is a different story. It's tiny compared to Melrose. I don't know if there's a gas station, grocery store or any major business in that small town. They definitely can use that money & that's most likely the reason they reversed the ban on Carls.I agree that the bars are just a small tax generator for Melrose Park. But I look at it for the trickle down effect. Since I don't live any where near the area, so going there is trip for me. So when I'm in the area, I usually put gas in the car, have lunch, and then hit some stores. I know the city could care less for people like the bar patrons and getting rid of the bars would make the city happy.

[ChiGuy489]

On an earlier June weekend, I managed to spend time at Carl's at night, for as Visconti5683 aptly notes, they are the only action in Melrose Park / Stone Park in terms of lingerie bars. Had good times with Foxy (petite AA MILF), Jasmine (thick, white), and Maddie (or Maddy) (mixed or Latina, med build).

I didn't sync so much with Anna, an extremely sexy Latina spinner, but who never once turned to face me during the dance--it was all booty and not sensual, nor would I repeat with Emily, a thick AA with huge breasts--she was my type body-wise, but was extremely quiet--she said nothing beyond her name to me; even though I tried to engage in conversation with her, she just offered me a thin smile that didn't look genuine. Maybe she was having a bad night? Also had a dance with Ruby, who was very athletic--too much bouncing to the point that I was in pain--and no grinding / not sensual. She was also a high pressure seller, which was a turn off.

Did I mention that I miss the old Louie's?What happened to Louies? That was the SPOT the dances for $10 and the grimy backroom.

[Mayor Quimby]

What happened to Louies? That was the SPOT the dances for $10 and the grimy backroom.Not trying to be a jerk, but that's sort of been the entire topic of discussion on this thread since Melrose put a ban on dancers around 8-10 months ago. Not going to rehash the entire situation but it's all here in the thread. Start back in November post #956.

[SouthSideRed]

Not trying to be a jerk, but that's sort of been the entire topic of discussion on this thread since Melrose put a ban on dancers around 8-10 months ago. Not going to rehash the entire situation but it's all here in the thread. Start back in November post #956.Any word if and when they are going to allow dances again?

[FitnessBuff200]

So, I have been holding off on commenting here until I heard from one of the people I trust to get back to me with the straight story. As things stand now, there has been no reversal on the dancer ban for Melrose Park. None of the bars we consider the lingerie / bikini bars are allowed to have dancers by ordinance. The question has come up regarding why the Gentlemens clubs can & it has to do with the entertainment license. That license comes along with requirements like security, capacity etc. That doesn't mean bars won't stop trying to figure a way around the ordinances. That's how the lingerie bars started. They called it a Fashion show, used an outside company to run it & sold raffle tickets instead of charging for a dance. All ways of stepping around the rules. If you may recall, since the dancer ban, Louies tried bringing the girls back a few different ways. They were just customers (that happened to dance for other customers), as massage girls etc. Each time they did that they received a slap on the wrist. The last time it happened, the bartender & the girls all received hefty tickets / fines (500-750 each). So that's what keeps them at bay to answer that question. Please note, this is all confirmed information.

As far as lost business goes, the ones that are hurting are the bars & that does absolutely suck. I have been going to these places for a few decades & I hate to see this happening. The rest of Melrose isn't likely to feel it. Keep in mind how big Melrose Park actually is. Consider things like car dealerships, grocery stores, home centers, etc. , the village isn't going to feel the pain of losing tax revenue from 3 bars. Costco & Menards alone completely dwarf anything that came in from these places. The occasional tank of gas or drive through meal any of us got isn't a make or break for any of those businesses (it's not like it's the only place I ever got these things). Stone park is a different story. It's tiny compared to Melrose. I don't know if there's a gas station, grocery store or any major business in that small town. They definitely can use that money & that's most likely the reason they reversed the ban on Carls.

I have not been in to Louie's lately & have not asked anyone if they are aware of any changes there. I may go in & see for myself & see but I've sort of steered away from that whole area in the past few months. I've been asked if I have any affiliation to these bars or any other entity & the answer is no. I just happen to know a few business owners in the area (not bars or clubs or anything related to this scene) & they keep up on what's going on with things & really seem to know the right people for credible fact based info.

The status of J's & Playpen has come up. Playpen is completely no more. The building is home to a Mexican seafood restaurant now called La Ancla. The only snapper you're likely to get there will be on a plate with a side of rice. As far as J's goes, it's my understanding is they were permanently stripped of all licenses & permits to operate & will not be allowed to reopen. What happens to the building is yet to be determined.Wow J's got totally nuked and I just started going there during the pandemic because of the lack of nightlife elsewhere. I feel like it could've all been avoided but they got too comfortable.

[Mayor Quimby]

Wow J's got totally nuked and I just started going there during the pandemic because of the lack of nightlife elsewhere. I feel like it could've all been avoided but they got too comfortable.So I recently drove by J's while out running an errand. Seems to be a lot of work going on. Some contractors vans, lots of paint buckets etc. By the dumpsters. Even resurfaced the parking lot. Rumors is that it's about to re-open under new management with no dancers or any type of entertainment. It looks to be going the way side like playpen did. Nothing else to report.

[StanleyStankas]

So I recently drove by J's while out running an errand. Seems to be a lot of work going on. Some contractors vans, lots of paint buckets etc. By the dumpsters. Even resurfaced the parking lot. Rumors is that it's about to re-open under new management with no dancers or any type of entertainment. It looks to be going the way side like playpen did. Nothing else to report.If it's been already reported, fellas. As most know I am up and down heim on a regular basis. Confirmed as well that j's is long gone forever and it has a sign now that says sport's bar something on the way. I also cruise by louie's on my way to and from the flea and it appears to be open, however do not know what is happening inside. Imo- that murder in front of j's killed it forever. Once the po po reviewed the surveillance videos which was rumored to have happened here and confirmed in the news, that was their ticket to be gone! It was announced publicly that there was a back room where questionable things happened the local politicos had to move to change or amend ordinances. I am not that knowledgeable at all on any of this so just really reporting what I just saw last Friday coming back from the flea. I do know that the pen did turn into a mexican food place. So even though parts of the strip are still very sketchy I. E. Those stop and flop kitchenette places as well as those day rate joints on the east side of heim, fashion show places or since I am so old refer to them as bikini bars that era seems over. I also saw some strange activity in front of one of those day rate places and sure enough no sooner did I turn my head dart's boys were straddling the center and turning into the place within seconds. So I think it's been confirmed that j's is / was in a unincorporated sliver of cook darts boys are involved and once that video was known and released publicly they must have put pressure on the areas to change ordinances allowing dancing to no dancing just all imo. Thanks to mayor and others that have more first hand knowledge. Peace and stay safe men. Stosh.

[StanleyStankas]

Not trying to be a jerk, but that's sort of been the entire topic of discussion on this thread since Melrose put a ban on dancers around 8-10 months ago. Not going to rehash the entire situation but it's all here in the thread. Start back in November post #956.Looks like the guys here are on top of things so the only new thing I had was the sports bar sign I just saw in front of what was j's. Thanks to all for the updates. Sorry for my rambling.

[Chicagorfp]

Hey everyone! Sorry I've not had much of a chance to post. My personal life got fairly busy these past three months or so (home projects, vacation) and I couldn't easily break away to visit my favorite haunts until recently. Even then, my trips are limited in terms of time and are unpredictable in terms of schedule.

First up is Carl's Bar, which I've visited about three to four times in the past month or so. They're located on the south end of a strip mall at 1735 Mannheim Road in Stone Park, which is on the east side of Mannheim Road. Each time I went there was an available spot in the parking lot, though I also noticed free spaces on the street itself. On weekdays there's no driver's license scans and no cover; on weekend there's both a driver's license scan and a $10 cover.

Inside, the bar is on the south side of the main space, on the right as you enter and taking up the full length of the room. Most of the floor area is occupied by four pool tables which were in constant use during my visits. There's an upstairs area that was closed off. Dances take place in a secluded area towards the back of the space: there are barstools and tables along with smoked plexiglas about head-high. Dances are $20 per song, with tunes coming from a jukebox (so no cut songs). There is no back room or other private space for dances: everything is in the open once you've entered the secluded area.

The dancers at Carl's were mainly white and Latina, with one petite AA dancer, a MILF called Francine, who's pretty fun. Also of interest was someone named Nuvia, a thick Latina in her 30's with D cups who was very sensual during our time together--I would repeat! Average dances were had from Sarina (white) and Melanie (Latina) --they had good attitudes. Another person who had a great personality was Missiesta (unsure of the spelling) who is a tall buxom Latina that had just started at Carl's.

DL scans? Yes, on weekends.

Pros: Not far from Louie's, decent parking situation, laidback atmosphere, especially during the week; no cover on weekdays; jukebox tunes (no DJ to cut songs).

Cons: No private area with accompanying options; dancer roster seemed a bit limited; some dancers only provided an average performance; sitting on bar stools for dances is very awkward.

I'll report on Louie's in a separate post. Please, brothers, keep the information flowing!

[Chicagorfp]

As promised in my review of Carl's, here's my report on Louie's. Like Carl's, I've visited Louie's about three to four times in the past month or so. They're located on the east end of a small building that includes a Mexican restaurant called Rodeo; the club address is 4601 West Lake Street in Melrose Park, which is on the north side of Lake Street, also known as US Route 20. Note that if you're coming from the west via the I-290 expressway, there's presently construction on Lake Street that requires you to use North Avenue (IL Route 64) eastbound and follow a detour.

Parking is decent during the day, but can get tight at night. In addition to the lot directly in front of Louie's, there's two other lots to the east and west of the building where club parking is permitted. There's no driver's license scan nor cover charge--no matter the day of the week or the time of the day. Louie's does have security on the weekend nights, which is great because they keep an eye on the lots and on folks coming into the club.

Inside, the club is divided into an east space and a west space. The bar proper takes up the east side of the east space; it can seat about 20 people. There are additional seating areas in the northwest corner of the east space and a pool table in the southwest corner of said space. The west space is where the dances happen: there are tables and perimeter counters with bar stools. There are also two low couches but the dancers said they could only use those if no perimeter spaces are free. Everything here is out in the open, with regular, non-topless dances at $10 per song. Some dancers offer topless for $20 per song, which is akin to the pricing one finds at All Star in McCook (which I've reported upon in the past). Other dancers do occasionally flash a boob even on the regular dances. Note that they are no longer wearing lingerie, but sexy street clothes, which I find pretty neat.

In addition, there is a back room off of the east room that's available for better privacy: the cost is $60, with $20 going to the house and $40 going to the dancer. Some dancers measure the time period by counting three songs, while others set a 10-minute timer on their phones. Alas, the seating for the patron is a lone barstool that's rather awkward, but not much can be done about that.

The dancers at Louie's were an even mix of AA, Latina, and white of varying builds and dance skills. The day shift is much more relaxed than the night shift. Among my favorite dancers are Ari (white, exudes amazing sensuality); Bosi (AA spinner, very sweet, very skilled); Liz (petite Latina with good lap dance skills); Lola (petite Latina with a soft yet firm body, if you know what I mean); MacKenzie (white or Latina--pretty legs and body); Star (petite AA spinner who's really fun); Tonya (well-endowed Latina who's kind and extremely talented). There were some dancers who were nice but I didn't connect with them and felt my experiences were average (Ashley, Didi, Rosie). The bar staff are really cool!

I'd scans? No.

Pros: Not far from Carl's, mostly laidback atmosphere, especially days; no cover ever; jukebox tunes (no DJ to cut songs); private area available.

Cons: Some dancers only provided an average performance; sitting on bar stools is very awkward; can get fairly crowded on a weekend night, including parking.

Louie's still rocks with the best value in Chicagoland in my view, though others may disagree. Please keep the info coming my brothers. Be safe!

I undeleted this post, cops do not use this forum for information, before you posted it they knew there were strippers working there.

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[Jc2490]

As promised in my review of Carl's, here's my report on Louie's. Like Carl's, I've visited Louie's about three to four times in the past month or so.When did Louie's get the dancers back? This report describes the place from about 2 years ago.

[Chicagorfp]

When did Louie's get the dancers back? This report describes the place from about 2 years ago.I want to say early-to-mid July, with one major difference is that they wear sexy street clothes, not lingerie. I had one lady, Jocelyn, a mixed or AA spinner, give me a dance wearing soft yoga pants, which was pretty hot. Good times!

[SouthSideRed]

I want to say early-to-mid July, with one major difference is that they wear sexy street clothes, not lingerie. I had one lady, Jocelyn, a mixed or AA spinner, give me a dance wearing soft yoga pants, which was pretty hot. Good times!Any word if Bobby's has let the dancers back to work?

[FilthyPaco]

Stopped by Louie's today around 6 pm. Girls are definitely back, dressed in street clothes, but some rather thin and partially see through. Nice selection of about 7 or 8 girls, couple of African American, 4 or 5 white, couple of Latinas Didn't partake in any of the girls though. They all seemed focused on their regulars. Did observe a couple of guys being taken to the other half of the bar. No signs of the back room being in use, but didn't stay long.

[BbfscipOnly]

Stopped by Bobby's first just before 4 pm yesterday. No dancers, just a girl giving neck massages that wouldn't take no for an answer.

After striking out there I went over to Louise's. Single girl working the day time. Thick Latina named Angelique. (Said her name was a combo of Angel + Unique).

Took me to the back half of the bar. 10 per dance or 20 per dance topless. I suggest not paying 20 for topless as they aren't supposed to dance topless. We were a couple songs in when the bar tender told her she could flash but couldn't keep her top down. Bar tender flashed her own tits when she said this, wish she was dancing too.

Anyways, Angelique was good for what you go to these bars for. Lots of grinding, and your hands are free to roam her body. Lots of grabbing and stroking my cock through my shorts. If the bartender had not interrupted us I would have busted in my pants.

[Ohboy]

Stopped by Bobby's first just before 4 pm yesterday. No dancers, just a girl giving neck massages that wouldn't take no for an answer.

After striking out there I went over to Louise's. Single girl working the day time. Thick Latina named Angelique. (Said her name was a combo of Angel + Unique).

Took me to the back half of the bar. 10 per dance or 20 per dance topless. I suggest not paying 20 for topless as they aren't supposed to dance topless. We were a couple songs in when the bar tender told her she could flash but couldn't keep her top down. Bar tender flashed her own tits when she said this, wish she was dancing too.

Anyways, Angelique was good for what you go to these bars for. Lots of grinding, and your hands are free to roam her body. Lots of grabbing and stroking my cock through my shorts. If the bartender had not interrupted us I would have busted in my pants.Thanks for the report, sounds like things are looking up, at least at Louies. Do you think there may have been more to be had in the back room?

[BbfscipOnly]

Thanks for the report, sounds like things are looking up, at least at Louies. Do you think there may have been more to be had in the back room?I got the feeling the girl was willing but with her being the only girl there that early in the day the bar tender was watching too closely. I would have gotten a legit HJ I'm sure.

I'm in town visiting, but I'm from here originally, and am looking for some action today. Specifically a girl I can creampie. I saw Mercedes last year, young girl that walks Manheim and posts on Megapersonals, but she's been slow to respond. I spent over an hour putting multiple loads into her last time I was in town. The options for BBFS are super limited here compared to Vegas.

[BbfscipOnly]

Went to Carl's today, around 4 pm. A half dozen girls here, 4 white, 1 Latina, 1 Ebony. 2 of the white girls were both from Poland. Don't remember their names, both taller with big, likely fake, tits. They gave the best dances out of the 4 girls I tried there. The only 2 to grab and stroke my cock and both pulled their tits out for me to grab and suck their nipples.

[FitnessBuff200]

Went to Carl's today, around 4 pm. A half dozen girls here, 4 white, 1 Latina, 1 Ebony. 2 of the white girls were both from Poland. Don't remember their names, both taller with big, likely fake, tits. They gave the best dances out of the 4 girls I tried there. The only 2 to grab and stroke my cock and both pulled their tits out for me to grab and suck their nipples.Yea I believe I tried one of the Polish girls. Fake tits, nice ass with glasses. Absolutely better dance than the latinas. The only issue was that the second floor had way too many guys staring at us

[Mayor Quimby]

So, I haven't really been out to any of the Mannheim area bars in some time now. I was in the area & decided to stop in Bobby's to see if anyone familiar was hanging out. It was in the afternoon on a weekday & the place was empty, maybe 2-3 other customers & no females (or so I thought). As I sat & had a beer, out of the ladies room appears that trainwreck of a thief known as Dana (Dayna? Many of you know who I'm talking about as she's been discussed on this board many times for several years. For those of you that don't, she's a tall, athletic AA, woman. She has a very distinctive look, she has a very round face (for lack of a better term). This chick will make every attempt to take what she can grab. If you have any change on the bar, she'll make a grab for it. She'll come up & hug you, start rubbing up on you while sliding her hands in your pockets to take your wallet or cash. She will cling on you like glue. She has fast hands & is very good at it, a real "Artful Dodger". When you catch her at it, she'll simply say "it's mine". I know of a couple guys she's agreed to do take out only to rip them off. She's been banned form every bar in the area but always seems to talk her way back in. I drank my beer & got out of there before she had a chance to make her way down the bar. I can't believe they're letting her hang out again.

[StanleyStankas]

So, I haven't really been out to any of the Mannheim area bars in some time now. I was in the area & decided to stop in Bobby's to see if anyone familiar was hanging out. It was in the afternoon on a weekday & the place was empty, maybe 2-3 other customers & no females (or so I thought). As I sat & had a beer, out of the ladies room appears that trainwreck of a thief known as Dana (Dayna? Many of you know who I'm talking about as she's been discussed on this board many times for several years. For those of you that don't, she's a tall, athletic AA, woman. She has a very distinctive look, she has a very round face (for lack of a better term). This chick will make every attempt to take what she can grab. If you have any change on the bar, she'll make a grab for it. She'll come up & hug you, start rubbing up on you while sliding her hands in your pockets to take your wallet or cash. She will cling on you like glue. She has fast hands & is very good at it, a real "Artful Dodger". When you catch her at it, she'll simply say "it's mine". I know of a couple guys she's agreed to do take out only to rip them off. She's been banned form every bar in the area but always seems to talk her way back in. I drank my beer & got out of there before she had a chance to make her way down the bar. I can't believe they're letting her hang out again.And I for one appreciate her description because I know she has been mentioned in the threads in the past, however not sure if a physical description was ever given. They are very fast. That I do know first hand from getting hummers back in the day in my ride. Also on pub tran when I lived down there I could feel their hand in my front coat pocket, however I knew nothing was in there. It's a very erry feeling to say the least. Course after one has had a couple of adult beverages ones senses are also dulled and these c**ts know it.

[Mayor Quimby]

Heeeer's Dana! Just a reminder. If you spend time with her, you will likely get taken for whatever she can lift or con out of you. She'll start roaming her hands on you & eventually make her way to your pockets. If you buy her a drink, she'll snatch the change away. Any money on the bar, she considers hers. She currently hangs out at the Playpen looking for a mark. Be careful!A couple years ago I posted her pic. If you go to the above post you'll see her face. She's a bit of a chameleon, she'll look OK one day, & nasty the next. The first time I encountered her was back when J's had first opened. She pulled that "you owe me 100" when it was more like 40. Turned into a major tantrum.

While I sat at the bar last week, one of the other customers & I talked briefly. He mentioned she's become a regular there, several times a week. He also knew her reputation.

[Jc2490]

I've been swamped with work lately and haven't been in the area in a few months. How's the action been at Louie's?

[ClitEastwoodJx]

So, I haven't really been out to any of the Mannheim area bars in some time now. I was in the area & decided to stop in Bobby's to see if anyone familiar was hanging out. It was in the afternoon on a weekday & the place was empty, maybe 2-3 other customers & no females (or so I thought). As I sat & had a beer, out of the ladies room appears that trainwreck of a thief known as Dana (Dayna? Many of you know who I'm talking about as she's been discussed on this board many times for several years. For those of you that don't, she's a tall, athletic AA, woman. She has a very distinctive look, she has a very round face (for lack of a better term). This chick will make every attempt to take what she can grab. If you have any change on the bar, she'll make a grab for it. She'll come up & hug you, start rubbing up on you while sliding her hands in your pockets to take your wallet or cash. She will cling on you like glue. She has fast hands & is very good at it, a real "Artful Dodger". When you catch her at it, she'll simply say "it's mine". I know of a couple guys she's agreed to do take out only to rip them off. She's been banned form every bar in the area but always seems to talk her way back in. I drank my beer & got out of there before she had a chance to make her way down the bar. I can't believe they're letting her hang out again.Thank you!

[Amplitude]

A couple years ago I posted her pic. If you go to the above post you'll see her face. She's a bit of a chameleon, she'll look OK one day, & nasty the next. The first time I encountered her was back when J's had first opened. She pulled that "you owe me 100" when it was more like 40. Turned into a major tantrum.

While I sat at the bar last week, one of the other customers & I talked briefly. He mentioned she's become a regular there, several times a week. He also knew her reputation.Good warning, Mayor. With that DSL she'd probably suck me in. And not in a good way.

[OPIllini]

After seeing the thread about Louie's having girls again, I decided to head over this week for my birthday. It was worth it. Spent a lot of time with Angelique, a tall plus-sized Latina who's an absolute sweetheart. Got several dances from her and had a few drinks together. This was my first time at Louie's since before the pandemic. I'm glad the girls are back and I'll be back again soon!

[NiceChicaGaGuy]

After seeing the thread about Louie's having girls again, I decided to head over this week for my birthday. It was worth it. Spent a lot of time with Angelique, a tall plus-sized Latina who's an absolute sweetheart. Got several dances from her and had a few drinks together. This was my first time at Louie's since before the pandemic. I'm glad the girls are back and I'll be back again soon!The last time I was there I got a backroom dance. First, the girl (whose name I forget) had me go to the bathroom to wash my hands. Makes sense, Covid and all. And then brought me into the room and put a chair against the door. She disrobed. Beautiful tits, kept her panties on. When she began to dance I used my right hand to adjust myself and she stopped and told me I could now only touch her with my left. I actually get that too; we are in the middle of a pretty bad disease, but it certainly made the rest of the dance difficult. I am afraid the fun days in that area are numbered, and I might never get a chance again, but I probably won't head out there again until we are more Covid free.

[StanleyStankas]

The last time I was there I got a backroom dance. First, the girl (whose name I forget) had me go to the bathroom to wash my hands. Makes sense, Covid and all. And then brought me into the room and put a chair against the door. She disrobed. Beautiful tits, kept her panties on. When she began to dance I used my right hand to adjust myself and she stopped and told me I could now only touch her with my left. I actually get that too; we are in the middle of a pretty bad disease, but it certainly made the rest of the dance difficult. I am afraid the fun days in that area are numbered, and I might never get a chance again, but I probably won't head out there again until we are more Covid free.Over there right now. The village health department in melrose also has jurisdiction because I am at the flea all the time and even though the restaurant inside is open they have taped off all of the seating. They are still serving, however just the way it is so at least they are allowing louie's to stay open given all the past bs with jays. Hopefully things will get better with summer.

[Ump1969]

Over there right now. The village health department in melrose also has jurisdiction because I am at the flea all the time and even though the restaurant inside is open they have taped off all of the seating. They are still serving, however just the way it is so at least they are allowing louie's to stay open given all the past bs with jays. Hopefully things will get better with summer.I always believe everything you say as I have had plenty of reasons over time. I wonder if any action by the health department is legitimate health issues or another attempt to shut them down, like J's. I had opportunity to travel through Rockford a few days ago. This used to be a town with cornucopia of decent services, including street, strip, massage and others. My favorite place used to be a massage parlor just off State Street near downtown (can't remember the name). Now the town is dead. I sure we are all painfully aware, as there have been many examples the past dozen years or so, that the authorities will completely shut down any area they so desire until fairer laws catch up as they have in other countries.

[StanleyStankas]

I always believe everything you say as I have had plenty of reasons over time. I wonder if any action by the health department is legitimate health issues or another attempt to shut them down, like J's. I had opportunity to travel through Rockford a few days ago. This used to be a town with cornucopia of decent services, including street, strip, massage and others. My favorite place used to be a massage parlor just off State Street near downtown (can't remember the name). Now the town is dead. I sure we are all painfully aware, as there have been many examples the past dozen years or so, that the authorities will completely shut down any area they so desire until fairer laws catch up as they have in other countries.At the flea there are guys from melrose that are in my age bracket (seniors) that never left the area. No reason to! The security guy is a long time melrose guy and knows what's what in the area. He works for the park district, the village and the flea. He told me that the health department in melrose has come over and counted the maskless people. Right now if you go inside the building you need to wear a mask. If you stay outside or pay from the outside you don't which is why I like it. As far as louie's goes I mean I only can gather that he is an old school guy that knows what's what so walks a line. I mean as long as nothing crazy happens I doubt they even watch that closely. It's right on the far west end of melrose anyway and I rarely even see fuzz over there unless there is a fender bender or someone needs emergency response for health reasons. Also jay's now a sport's bar in the making has not opened yet. Now I do not know the reasoning on that. Maybe an issue getting a liquor license. Now since it's cook county still things are tighter. I can tell you first hand that at least one neighborhood place in the city I know does not enforce the vax card because he knows his locals would ruin his business. I can say this if the city was trying to kill the small business person they have done an incredible job. Most people read all of the rules and just say blank it. I'll stay away. I would rather give my money to the flea vendors as they are out there busting their hinds in all types of weather and the rules of the day are generally relaxed. Now the flea in back of the yards the city backed off on because the push right now for them is getting a business license for every vendor. Total money grab.

[Amplitude]

I always believe everything you say as I have had plenty of reasons over time. I wonder if any action by the health department is legitimate health issues or another attempt to shut them down, like J's. I had opportunity to travel through Rockford a few days ago. This used to be a town with cornucopia of decent services, including street, strip, massage and others. My favorite place used to be a massage parlor just off State Street near downtown (can't remember the name). Now the town is dead. I sure we are all painfully aware, as there have been many examples the past dozen years or so, that the authorities will completely shut down any area they so desire until fairer laws catch up as they have in other countries.I kneel down in a moment of silence each time someone writes about that Rockford State St stretch. What, Paradise, Rainbow and Pine Tree?

Broke my AMP cfs then BBFS cherry at Rainbow. A beautiful, big titty Korean girl who went by Jae.

My first visit I asked for their VIP jacuzzi room. They assigned an average looking MT to me. Went through the well known routine, ultimately covering me up and jumping on for a ride. I thought, "What have I found HERE?

Literally a week later (doing that drive from downtown) I was walking to the jacuzzi room and Jae walked by; I immediately blurted out, "Can I have her instead!

Proceeded to see her every week for a good year. Spent a fortune.

But about a half dozen visits in she climbed on after flipping and whispered, "I want to know how it feels. " She made you feel like you were her only bb client. Of course. BUT, she very clearly treated her body like a temple. Cleaner than a surgeon's prep. Always felt perfectly secure with her.

Knowing this was a possibility I ended up with similar services at Paradise and Pine Tree (8915 address I believe?). I can't remember the name of this gorgeous young naturally busty thing at Pine Tree, but we'd finish, she'd come back to dress me and we'd end up diving back in for round 2. Cried like a baby when I showed up a few months in to find she'd moved on.

Sorry, wrong thread! But you prompted my need to fondly reminisce.

[Mayor Quimby]

So, the locals paid a visit to Louie's this week. It seems that county was involved. Apparently they made them close down. I do not know the details. Anyone else hear anything? A friend did tell me they did not open today.

[OPIllini]

So, the locals paid a visit to Louie's this week. It seems that county was involved. Apparently they made them close down. I do not know the details. Anyone else hear anything? A friend did tell me they did not open today.I just saw a Facebook post this morning that said they've decided to close for good and the bar will be up for sale. Didn't know it's been open for 20 years, what a good run. Hopefully, if a new owner is found, it can reopen in some fashion, but it also wouldn't surprise me if Melrose Park flexes its muscle and the spot becomes something else besides a bar.

[Illini333]

So, the locals paid a visit to Louie's this week. It seems that county was involved. Apparently they made them close down. I do not know the details. Anyone else hear anything? A friend did tell me they did not open today.Yep. They got busted for having an underage girl working there. She was 16 or 17 I think. They are finished now. Bar is up for sale. I doubt Melrose will let whoever buys it continue the fashion show but we will see. It's not exactly a prime location being next to a trailer court. What's funny is Playpen closed down and it became a Mexican seafood restaurant. They redid the entire place. Every time I drive buy it is completely empty. Hopefully Louies stays a bar with dancers. 1.

[SouthSideRed]

I just saw a Facebook post this morning that said they've decided to close for good and the bar will be up for sale. Didn't know it's been open for 20 years, what a good run. Hopefully, if a new owner is found, it can reopen in some fashion, but it also wouldn't surprise me if Melrose Park flexes its muscle and the spot becomes something else besides a bar.What a shame, I just started going back to Louie's. Was there about a week ago and everything seemed above board. It's hard to believe with all the nonsense going on, they would let a minor work there and get caught.

[Mayor Quimby]

What a shame, I just started going back to Louie's. Was there about a week ago and everything seemed above board. It's hard to believe with all the nonsense going on, they would let a minor work there and get caught.


Let's all hop in the Wayback Machine to the incident at J's a a year & a half ago, the village banned dancers entirely from the non "entertainment" bars in Melrose. The village board established an ordinance that kept Louie's from having dancers & that did not change. Louie's was trying to figure a way around this ordinance, the girls were in street clothes etc. So as far as ever reopening & being "allowed" to have dancers or fashion shows, why would a new owner be allowed to do that when Louie's was not after being established in business for 2 decades?

As far as the locals go they seemed to be looking the other way as long as there were no complaints nor incidents & they kept a low profile. Taking that in to consideration, it's hard to believe that Louie or anyone else would take the risk of not checking ID's. I checked with the people I know that are in the local loop today & no one knows anything of minors involved (although not impossible). If that was the case, the fact that county was involved would mean Louie & any of the bartenders would have been arrested & facing very serious charges. It probably would have at least made the papers. Having dancers against a village ordinance that may have been doing more than dancing (if that was a factor), is enough for some fines & losing ones liquor license. Allowing minors to work in that environment is a route to serious time. I certainly hope that was not the case. Whatever happened, it is a shame & I will miss Louie's. Been a customer there since they first began having dancers.

[OPIllini]

I'm going to miss Louie's a lot. I was there just last month for my birthday and had a great time. I enjoyed the friendly and laid-back environment Louie's had.

Now all that's left of the Mannheim area bars is Carl's, and I'm honestly not a fan of that place. I suppose Scores and Gold Club are other options, but those places strike me as stuffy, arrogant, and extremely overpriced.

[NiceChicaGaGuy]

I'm going to miss Louie's a lot. I was there just last month for my birthday and had a great time. I enjoyed the friendly and laid-back environment Louie's had.

Now all that's left of the Mannheim area bars is Carl's, and I'm honestly not a fan of that place. I suppose Scores and Gold Club are other options, but those places strike me as stuffy, arrogant, and extremely overpriced.What exactly goes on at Bobby's these days? Last time I was there I got hustled for a couple of backrubs by a reasonably nice woman; then I saw posts here about the infamous Dana. What is there now? I'm assuming basically a couple of girls doing backrubs and hustling drinks; has anything there loosened up at all? I'm good with All-Stars as a replacement for Stone / Melrose but it's tough enough to get their dances to go from a PG to a PG-13.

[Mayor Quimby]

What exactly goes on at Bobby's these days? Last time I was there I got hustled for a couple of backrubs by a reasonably nice woman; then I saw posts here about the infamous Dana. What is there now? I'm assuming basically a couple of girls doing backrubs and hustling drinks; has anything there loosened up at all? I'm good with All-Stars as a replacement for Stone / Melrose but it's tough enough to get their dances to go from a PG to a PG-13.

So, I stopped into Bobby's over the weekend. Apparently the locals stopped in to bust them the same day as they did Louie's. Things had just started to loosen up there over the past couple weeks depending on what bartender & what girls showed up. There was no one dancing at the time they stopped in, everyone just sitting at the bar. Between that scare & Louie's getting shut down for good, they don't want to risk the same fate since the village has decided to strictly enforce the dancer ban put in place after the J's fiasco. They are actually telling most of the girls to not even come in.

At this point, all has come to a halt. Bobby's seems to be doing quite well as a non lingerie bar. If you go in Thurs through Sat, they have a good crowd. As much as I hate to say it. The Mannheim strip is not what it used to be (with the exception of Carls). Maybe down the road things might change, but that's what everyone said about Rockford, Belvidere (my particular favorite), Cicero, & parts of NW Indiana. These are all places that were a lot of fun, I have enjoyed myself at places in all of those areas as well, but none have returned to their heyday. I'm still in Denial over Belvidere & frequently check the boards hoping my ATF Terry will reappear but no such luck. I hate to say it, but it really looks like we have to accept that Bobby's is just a regular bar now. At this point the only hope may be that some of these girls find a spot to hang looking for takeout.

[StanleyStankas]

So, I stopped into Bobby's over the weekend. Apparently the locals stopped in to bust them the same day as they did Louie's. Things had just started to loosen up there over the past couple weeks depending on what bartender & what girls showed up. There was no one dancing at the time they stopped in, everyone just sitting at the bar. Between that scare & Louie's getting shut down for good, they don't want to risk the same fate since the village has decided to strictly enforce the dancer ban put in place after the J's fiasco. They are actually telling most of the girls to not even come in.

At this point, all has come to a halt. Bobby's seems to be doing quite well as a non lingerie bar. If you go in Thurs through Sat, they have a good crowd. As much as I hate to say it. The Mannheim strip is not what it used to be (with the exception of Carls). Maybe down the road things might change, but that's what everyone said about Rockford, Belvidere (my particular favorite), Cicero, & parts of NW Indiana. These are all places that were a lot of fun, I have enjoyed myself at places in all of those areas as well, but none have returned to their heyday. I'm still in Denial over Belvidere & frequently check the boards hoping my ATF Terry will reappear but no such luck. I hate to say it, but it really looks like we have to accept that Bobby's is just a regular bar now. At this point the only hope may be that some of these girls find a spot to hang looking for takeout.Have not checked in recently because the melrose thread except for the 15th bookstore thread has been dead. I agree that if anything will be left to be had it will be just going in to one of the usual places and look around for possible takeout. All of the info on here is all spot on as I am up and down the street regularly. J's is supposed to open as a sport's bar, however still nothing. Also what was playpen now a mexican restaurant of sorts technically is open I don't see the traffic. I know the corner taco place right at the north west corner of heim and lake does do a brisk business. Did not know about louie's either. I can tell you the flea is going through major changes as code came in and they need to force the vendors inside to make costly changes or they are gone. Word is that the flea was sold, however I can not confirm this. I do believe that the village though has been on the war path to enforce codes. Stosh stay safe all.

[Member #6422]

I'm going to miss Louie's a lot. I was there just last month for my birthday and had a great time. I enjoyed the friendly and laid-back environment Louie's had.

Now all that's left of the Mannheim area bars is Carl's, and I'm honestly not a fan of that place. I suppose Scores and Gold Club are other options, but those places strike me as stuffy, arrogant, and extremely overpriced.This sucks. I was in Louies a few weeks ago and it was great. Best action in a while and good atmosphere.

Carls was okay in Dec, Jan. The curvy Polish girls were fun but they're gone now.

[StanleyStankas]

This sucks. I was in Louies a few weeks ago and it was great. Best action in a while and good atmosphere.

Carls was okay in Dec, Jan. The curvy Polish girls were fun but they're gone now.Since the local governments are closing all of these places down what is going to take their place? I mean I go by the former playpen and it's now a mexican restaurant. I never see any vehicles in their lot let alone people coming in or out of the place. Ditto j's. I thought the new sport's bar had not opened yet, however I was corrected by a knowledgeable member here. It's open. Just no customers! Or nothing imo like the parking lot of what j's looked like on a Friday afternoon. So what is next? Imo empty buildings. I know family type women in my area and they think the whole strip should be plowed down. Some say they won't even drive down the strip. It's really a Monday through Friday street for trucks. The weekends for the few grocery stores or quick in and out places. Where are the customers going to come from? Sure the local green labeled coffee drive up is always full, however I don't see the traffic at other places. There are enough empty lots or buildings decaying over there. So now with louie's, j's taken down what is going to take their place? How many gaming places does the place need? It's now not really a night time street because what was popular there has been all but removed! Typical politics imo. Let's cut off the small business man completely and see what happens! Over there? Nothing! Stosh stay safe all.

[SouthSideRed]

Since the local governments are closing all of these places down what is going to take their place? I mean I go by the former playpen and it's now a mexican restaurant. I never see any vehicles in their lot let alone people coming in or out of the place. Ditto j's. I thought the new sport's bar had not opened yet, however I was corrected by a knowledgeable member here. It's open. Just no customers! Or nothing imo like the parking lot of what j's looked like on a Friday afternoon. So what is next? Imo empty buildings. I know family type women in my area and they think the whole strip should be plowed down. Some say they won't even drive down the strip. It's really a Monday through Friday street for trucks. The weekends for the few grocery stores or quick in and out places. Where are the customers going to come from? Sure the local green labeled coffee drive up is always full, however I don't see the traffic at other places. There are enough empty lots or buildings decaying over there. So now with louie's, j's taken down what is going to take their place? How many gaming places does the place need? It's now not really a night time street because what was popular there has been all but removed! Typical politics imo. Let's cut off the small business man completely and see what happens! Over there? Nothing! Stosh stay safe all.It's funny that you mention the empty businesses. I stated once before that on my trips to the local bars here, besides spending money at the bars I would stop at one of the diners for lunch and hit the some of the local stores. But now there is no real reason to go to Melrose.

[StanleyStankas]

It's funny that you mention the empty businesses. I stated once before that on my trips to the local bars here, besides spending money at the bars I would stop at one of the diners for lunch and hit the some of the local stores. But now there is no real reason to go to Melrose.Like I say it's a truck street and really nothing on the weekends with few exceptions. The grocery store at armitage and heim on the east side does a brisk business, however that is food and not pickup food, liquor, gaming, girls! There is no attraction over there and maybe after j's they want suckers to open legit businesses only to realize it doesn't work. This is after they have paid all of their village fees and licenses of course. Again what attracted the outsider were the lingerie bars. And afterwards patrons would go get gas for their ride, grab some carry out and possibly put the rest of their mad money in the slots. Now what is the reason to come over here? It's not exactly a resort area or a place one would want to hang around in. Just my thoughts. Maybe that is the intention period and eventually the area will become all of those big logistics buildings with all of those semi garage (dock) doors since it's close to the airport. Really over here closer to the airport all of the former businesses with lots of land are going that route.

[FitnessBuff200]

Since the local governments are closing all of these places down what is going to take their place? I mean I go by the former playpen and it's now a mexican restaurant. I never see any vehicles in their lot let alone people coming in or out of the place. Ditto j's. I thought the new sport's bar had not opened yet, however I was corrected by a knowledgeable member here. It's open. Just no customers! Or nothing imo like the parking lot of what j's looked like on a Friday afternoon. So what is next? Imo empty buildings. I know family type women in my area and they think the whole strip should be plowed down. Some say they won't even drive down the strip. It's really a Monday through Friday street for trucks. The weekends for the few grocery stores or quick in and out places. Where are the customers going to come from? Sure the local green labeled coffee drive up is always full, however I don't see the traffic at other places. There are enough empty lots or buildings decaying over there. So now with louie's, j's taken down what is going to take their place? How many gaming places does the place need? It's now not really a night time street because what was popular there has been all but removed! Typical politics imo. Let's cut off the small business man completely and see what happens! Over there? Nothing! Stosh stay safe all.I here ya but are we really surprised? These places take a risk by being an open secret anyway. Their position is always precarious. It would be great if the town just gave them whatever strip club license they need but if they don’t have that one would expect the town to eventually enforce their laws.

[StanleyStankas]

I here ya but are we really surprised? These places take a risk by being an open secret anyway. Their position is always precarious. It would be great if the town just gave them whatever strip club license they need but if they dont have that one would expect the town to eventually enforce their laws.Most all of the heim strip is shady at best. J's killed it. I put an inquiry into the louie's situation as someone I come across on a regular basis is remotely related. If I find out anything specific I will report. The only thing I can confirm was already mentioned here in that my source said that louie knows what is what and would not fall for an underage situation. This was just his opinion. He also said that back in the day uncle louie was targeted by the boys. I was told they eliminated his garage, however of course louie walked away. Stosh. All I know fellas. Be safe.

[Tony Sop2]

Anyone know where any of the girls ended up? Looking for asian looking girl that worked Thursday day shift. Her name started with an a I beleive.

[StanleyStankas]

Anyone know where any of the girls ended up? Looking for asian looking girl that worked Thursday day shift. Her name started with an a I beleive.Senior regulars that specifically know what's what with the local girls from the bar scene. If they recognize the handle one might get a pm. Personally all I can report is things are a changing down in melrose. Still waiting to here back from this relative of louie's to find out what actually happened. All I know. Stosh stay safe over here as dart's boys are everywhere along the strip in their clean little cruisers!

[Jv Money]

Was working a double and I usually go to Carls after, but went in around 2 am. Only 1 girl working and when I walked in the bouncer said she's leaving so just a couple couples drinking and sausage fest. Didn't want to go back to work to take a nap before shift so wanted to see some pu $$& and tried the gold club which is open til 5 am. Toftt, place is nice but valet is retarded since has parking everywhere, but whatever walk in said it's my first time and dude waived the door fee. Once in me and another couple dudes were the only ones in there. Talent wasn't bad but sat down and got approached by Jenna / Jessa didn't really care. She sat down told her it was my first time and she took me on the tour. Champagne rooms first, took me in the one where they lock the door and she said "anything" goes which yes my first time there but not at a club so curious I asked how much she said 1800 an hour I'm like yeah maybe with 4 other girls but nope. I played along we sat down and she straddled me and my hands were free to roam everywhere. Then declined to take it. She kept pushing charging my cc and I'm like no thank you the wife would not be happy LOL. Anyways showed me a smaller room with a door and again "anything" goes for 1000 again decline. Then she takes me in a room that's the size of a video booth at the adult stores with a curtain and said she'll do "anything" in here for 200 for 15 minutes. So I said fuck it put your mouth where the money is (reverse quote) long story short they bring you a bottle of rose Champagne which wasn't bad then she couldn't stop talking and talking I almost wanted to say do you ever shut up. Then finally the top comes off she starts dancing, unbuttons my pants and starts getting all touchy. Then I'm watching my watch last 5 minutes she's all into it now basically trying to get me to do more time and she licks her hand and starts stroking me. Before you know it the little waitress comes in and said times up would you like more time. I straight up say I wish you were on the menu LOL and she was like for 500 more I'm like no thank you time to go to work. Long story short great atmosphere nice looking latin and white chicks but wayyyyyyyyyy over priced. Adding back to my regular place carls I usually go in there for a latin spinner. Late night while working doubles or overnight, but take out is definitely on the menu once you get to know them. Thanks everyone.

[StanleyStankas]

Was working a double and I usually go to Carls after, but went in around 2 am. Only 1 girl working and when I walked in the bouncer said she's leaving so just a couple couples drinking and sausage fest. Didn't want to go back to work to take a nap before shift so wanted to see some pu $$& and tried the gold club which is open til 5 am. Toftt, place is nice but valet is retarded since has parking everywhere, but whatever walk in said it's my first time and dude waived the door fee. Once in me and another couple dudes were the only ones in there. Talent wasn't bad but sat down and got approached by Jenna / Jessa didn't really care. She sat down told her it was my first time and she took me on the tour. Champagne rooms first, took me in the one where they lock the door and she said "anything" goes which yes my first time there but not at a club so curious I asked how much she said 1800 an hour I'm like yeah maybe with 4 other girls but nope. I played along we sat down and she straddled me and my hands were free to roam everywhere. Then declined to take it. She kept pushing charging my cc and I'm like no thank you the wife would not be happy LOL. Anyways showed me a smaller room with a door and again "anything" goes for 1000 again decline. Then she takes me in a room that's the size of a video booth at the adult stores with a curtain and said she'll do "anything" in here for 200 for 15 minutes. So I said fuck it put your mouth where the money is (reverse quote) long story short they bring you a bottle of rose Champagne which wasn't bad then she couldn't stop talking and talking I almost wanted to say do you ever shut up. Then finally the top comes off she starts dancing, unbuttons my pants and starts getting all touchy. Then I'm watching my watch last 5 minutes she's all into it now basically trying to get me to do more time and she licks her hand and starts stroking me. Before you know it the little waitress comes in and said times up would you like more time. I straight up say I wish you were on the menu LOL and she was like for 500 more I'm like no thank you time to go to work. Long story short great atmosphere nice looking latin and white chicks but wayyyyyyyyyy over priced. Adding back to my regular place carls I usually go in there for a latin spinner. Late night while working doubles or overnight, but take out is definitely on the menu once you get to know them. Thanks everyone.Info. Not so much the price, however you knew that nothing real was going to happen at least at the lower level pricing. So for the deuce fuck it, you got to feel up a hottie and some light work. I would call it entertainment, however I have been down this street and it can be a blue ball mother f**ker. Stosh. So gold room ok on the north side of lake east of heim next to scores. Been years for me even being in scores and yea they kinda get stupid over there as well with valet.

[Amplitude]

Was working a double and I usually go to Carls after, but went in around 2 am. Only 1 girl working and when I walked in the bouncer said she's leaving so just a couple couples drinking and sausage fest. Didn't want to go back to work to take a nap before shift so wanted to see some pu $$& and tried the gold club which is open til 5 am. Toftt, place is nice but valet is retarded since has parking everywhere, but whatever walk in said it's my first time and dude waived the door fee. Once in me and another couple dudes were the only ones in there. Talent wasn't bad but sat down and got approached by Jenna / Jessa didn't really care. She sat down told her it was my first time and she took me on the tour. Champagne rooms first, took me in the one where they lock the door and she said "anything" goes which yes my first time there but not at a club so curious I asked how much she said 1800 an hour I'm like yeah maybe with 4 other girls but nope. I played along we sat down and she straddled me and my hands were free to roam everywhere. Then declined to take it. She kept pushing charging my cc and I'm like no thank you the wife would not be happy LOL. Anyways showed me a smaller room with a door and again "anything" goes for 1000 again decline. Then she takes me in a room that's the size of a video booth at the adult stores with a curtain and said she'll do "anything" in here for 200 for 15 minutes. So I said fuck it put your mouth where the money is (reverse quote) long story short they bring you a bottle of rose Champagne which wasn't bad then she couldn't stop talking and talking I almost wanted to say do you ever shut up. Then finally the top comes off she starts dancing, unbuttons my pants and starts getting all touchy. Then I'm watching my watch last 5 minutes she's all into it now basically trying to get me to do more time and she licks her hand and starts stroking me. Before you know it the little waitress comes in and said times up would you like more time. I straight up say I wish you were on the menu LOL and she was like for 500 more I'm like no thank you time to go to work. Long story short great atmosphere nice looking latin and white chicks but wayyyyyyyyyy over priced. Adding back to my regular place carls I usually go in there for a latin spinner. Late night while working doubles or overnight, but take out is definitely on the menu once you get to know them. Thanks everyone.Useful information!

I've always been amazed that without the Guide these places HAVE to rely on guys being suckered one time and who then won't be back. That's depending on and going through a lot of one time suckers.

What, just three years ago at Fantasy in Hammond you could take those two Franklins and BBFSCIP. Whoa is me.

[ChicagoGoer]

Obviously not in the Melrose area but likely better to post here for visibility.

Stopped in Thursday around 6. Standard wand check and I'd scan. There were a handful of girls with the majority of them being Hispanic. Sat at the bar for 30-40 minutes and was never approached. Felt uncomfortable taking a table just for myself so likely hindered my chances by sitting at the bar. Saw one spinner and one girl decent shape with a tear drop booty.

Anyone get the full story on why Louie's closed? Any other game in town besides Carl's?

[StanleyStankas]

Obviously not in the Melrose area but likely better to post here for visibility.

Stopped in Thursday around 6. Standard wand check and I'd scan. There were a handful of girls with the majority of them being Hispanic. Sat at the bar for 30-40 minutes and was never approached. Felt uncomfortable taking a table just for myself so likely hindered my chances by sitting at the bar. Saw one spinner and one girl decent shape with a tear drop booty.

Anyone get the full story on why Louie's closed? Any other game in town besides Carl's?The one guy I know that works for the flea told me he saw one of uncle louie's relatives over there helping take stuff out so it is indeed over. There have been rumours on here and imo they are not true. About underage employees. It just doesn't fit. I was told that back in the day the boys tried to get uncle louie and they did succeed in blowing up his garage, however he walked away. So that kind of old school guy is not going to get taken down for an underage employee. Stay tuned as I do because there are a few that check this thread and have inside info that gladly share. All I know and sorry I could not be of more help. Stosh.

[Mayor Quimby]

The one guy I know that works for the flea told me he saw one of uncle louie's relatives over there helping take stuff out so it is indeed over. There have been rumours on here and imo they are not true. About underage employees. It just doesn't fit. I was told that back in the day the boys tried to get uncle louie and they did succeed in blowing up his garage, however he walked away. So that kind of old school guy is not going to get taken down for an underage employee. Stay tuned as I do because there are a few that check this thread and have inside info that gladly share. All I know and sorry I could not be of more help. Stosh.


Anyone get the full story on why Louie's closed? Any other game in town besides Carl's?OK, as for the full story, it's been covered over the past few pages, but I'll go ahead & detail it out one more time. Let's hop in the Wayback Machine one more time to the incident a couple years ago at J's. For those that don't recall, there was a fatal shooting in the parking lot after a dispute in the bar. The during the investigation, the locals had a warrant for any & all video the bar was in possession of from all security cams. Apparently the owner had years of video from all the various cams stored including the 2 cameras right above the dance area showing everything that went on there. There's speculation as to why he had all the video saved, but that's all rumors & opinions & I am sticking to info that is confirmed to be fact Once all that video was turned over, the Mayor, & all the village officials saw the activities from the dance area as well as the deals that were being done out in the open. At that point, the village put a "Dancer Ban" on all bars that were not licensed as "Entertainment" bars. It's my understanding there was discussion of more serious charges to many involved from what was seen from those cameras but apparently the village did not want the publicity.

To this day, that ban has not been lifted. Any bar in Melrose that has dancers is in violation of this & risks the same fate as Louie's. When Louie decided to bring back the dancers, it was originally "street clothes" only, & dance with "caution". The dancers were told not to name "Louie's Lounge" on any of their social Media etc. This frustrated many of them as they'd post on their Snapchat to attract their customers but could not post where. This was all in an effort to work around the dancer ban, FitnessBuff put it best with the term "open secret". Eventually after rolling for a bit, things relaxed & some of the dancers were dressing a bit more on the lingerie side we've all been used to seeing. The back room became available etc. This went on for a couple months or so, but we all know how it ended. The bottom line, is that simply having "dancers" put Louie's in violation of a village ordinance. The locals were looking the other way, but eventually, it was no longer up to LE, it was an order from village & county officials to shut it down.

Something that's been overlooked in this discussion, is that the same night they shut down Louie's, the locals also went to bust Bobbys as they had just started experimenting with ways around the dancer ban. It was VERY fortunate that there was nothing going on at the time they showed up. Only a couple girls were there but not dancing at the time & dressed in street clothes. The fact that the locals attempted to bust both bars on the same day should dispel the rumors of a young dancer etc. This was simply a Melrose Park crackdown & if there had been any other bars with dancers, they would have been included in this shutdown.

So, to address the questions I always get after posting this sort of info, Carls is still able to operate since it's in Stone Park, not Melrose. The Gentlemens club continues to operate as they have a different license & very strict rules that come with that. Those licenses were issued a very long time ago & are grandfathered in (If I'm not mistaken, the Gold Club was the Sugar Shack way back when). Also, I have no affiliation with the village of Melrose Park,(or any for that matter) nor do I have any official connection to the bars in question. I simply know the right people to get the real info from. I have posted facts that have been confirmed & this post is not an opinion piece. I have been a regular at all these places since the start of the bar "Fashion Shows". I have had soooo much fun in these places & am so very sad to see this come to an end.

[StanleyStankas]

OK, as for the full story, it's been covered over the past few pages, but I'll go ahead & detail it out one more time. Let's hop in the Wayback Machine one more time to the incident a couple years ago at J's. For those that don't recall, there was a fatal shooting in the parking lot after a dispute in the bar. The during the investigation, the locals had a warrant for any & all video the bar was in possession of from all security cams. Apparently the owner had years of video from all the various cams stored including the 2 cameras right above the dance area showing everything that went on there. There's speculation as to why he had all the video saved, but that's all rumors & opinions & I am sticking to info that is confirmed to be fact Once all that video was turned over, the Mayor, & all the village officials saw the activities from the dance area as well as the deals that were being done out in the open. At that point, the village put a "Dancer Ban" on all bars that were not licensed as "Entertainment" bars. It's my understanding there was discussion of more serious charges to many involved from what was seen from those cameras but apparently the village did not want the publicity.

To this day, that ban has not been lifted. Any bar in Melrose that has dancers is in violation of this & risks the same fate as Louie's. When Louie decided to bring back the dancers, it was originally "street clothes" only, & dance with "caution". The dancers were told not to name "Louie's Lounge" on any of their social Media etc. This frustrated many of them as they'd post on their Snapchat to attract their customers but could not post where. This was all in an effort to work around the dancer ban, FitnessBuff put it best with the term "open secret". Eventually after rolling for a bit, things relaxed & some of the dancers were dressing a bit more on the lingerie side we've all been used to seeing. The back room became available etc. This went on for a couple months or so, but we all know how it ended. The bottom line, is that simply having "dancers" put Louie's in violation of a village ordinance. The locals were looking the other way, but eventually, it was no longer up to LE, it was an order from village & county officials to shut it down.

Something that's been overlooked in this discussion, is that the same night they shut down Louie's, the locals also went to bust Bobbys as they had just started experimenting with ways around the dancer ban. It was VERY fortunate that there was nothing going on at the time they showed up. Only a couple girls were there but not dancing at the time & dressed in street clothes. The fact that the locals attempted to bust both bars on the same day should dispel the rumors of a young dancer etc. This was simply a Melrose Park crackdown & if there had been any other bars with dancers, they would have been included in this shutdown.

So, to address the questions I always get after posting this sort of info, Carls is still able to operate since it's in Stone Park, not Melrose. The Gentlemens club continues to operate as they have a different license & very strict rules that come with that. Those licenses were issued a very long time ago & are grandfathered in (If I'm not mistaken, the Gold Club was the Sugar Shack way back when). Also, I have no affiliation with the village of Melrose Park,(or any for that matter) nor do I have any official connection to the bars in question. I simply know the right people to get the real info from. I have posted facts that have been confirmed & this post is not an opinion piece. I have been a regular at all these places since the start of the bar "Fashion Shows". I have had soooo much fun in these places & am so very sad to see this come to an end.Thank you for this clear and concise information, mayor. Please excuse this old man's observation as I don't want to sound like lieutenant columbo again! J's meaning the physical land it was above is melrose? I am sure the plat of survey (or whatever it's called sorry) has to be cut up like a jig saw puzzle up and down heim at that point. So was this a melrose ban and the other areas not in melrose went with it as on here it is referred to j's having been in unincorporated lyden so I take it melrose still has jurisdiction. I hope I didn't take something completely obvious and turn it upside down, as usual! Thanks again for your patience and well layed out concise information. I know you know so let's leave it at that. Stosh.

[Mayor Quimby]

Thank you for this clear and concise information, mayor. Please excuse this old man's observation as I don't want to sound like lieutenant columbo again! J's meaning the physical land it was above is melrose? I am sure the plat of survey (or whatever it's called sorry) has to be cut up like a jig saw puzzle up and down heim at that point. So was this a melrose ban and the other areas not in melrose went with it as on here it is referred to j's having been in unincorporated lyden so I take it melrose still has jurisdiction. I hope I didn't take something completely obvious and turn it upside down, as usual! Thanks again for your patience and well layed out concise information. I know you know so let's leave it at that. Stosh.So I completely see where you're coming from. I always thought J's was part of Leyden as well. There were several incidents there over the years, mostly minor like a fight between the girls etc. There was one case where it got crazy, some of the girls took liquor bottles from behind the bar to hit each other over the head etc, OUCH! Each time one of these took place, it was always Melrose Park LE that showed up. If you do a google search using just the name J's Bar & Grill, Mannheim Rd, you'll see results that call it Northlake, Leyden, & Melrose. If you do an address search, it shows up as a Melrose Park address. The thing that confirms it as MP is the news articles about the shooting all list it as Melrose; https://abc7chicago.com/fatal-shooting-sports-bar-js-and-grill-melrose-park/6921842/.

Interesting that you mention other areas following suit. When the dancer ban originally was put in place. It seemed that Stone park was following suit (although I do not know that to be 100% true). You all may recall that Carls was shut down right after the shooting as well. From what I know, the SP mayor eventually lifted that ban. I'm guessing that's easier in a town that's the size of a postage stamp like Stone Pk. Not as many bureaucrats to go through I guess.

& I wonder how many people on here are old enough to remember the "just one more thing" line, LOL.

[Illini333]

So I completely see where you're coming from. I always thought J's was part of Leyden as well. There were several incidents there over the years, mostly minor like a fight between the girls etc. There was one case where it got crazy, some of the girls took liquor bottles from behind the bar to hit each other over the head etc, OUCH! Each time one of these took place, it was always Melrose Park LE that showed up. If you do a google search using just the name J's Bar & Grill, Mannheim Rd, you'll see results that call it Northlake, Leyden, & Melrose. If you do an address search, it shows up as a Melrose Park address. The thing that confirms it as MP is the news articles about the shooting all list it as Melrose; https://abc7chicago.com/fatal-shooting-sports-bar-js-and-grill-melrose-park/6921842/.

Interesting that you mention other areas following suit. When the dancer ban originally was put in place. It seemed that Stone park was following suit (although I do not know that to be 100% true). You all may recall that Carls was shut down right after the shooting as well. From what I know, the SP mayor eventually lifted that ban. I'm guessing that's easier in a town that's the size of a postage stamp like Stone Pk. Not as many bureaucrats to go through I guess.

& I wonder how many people on here are old enough to remember the "just one more thing" line, LOL.J's was in unincorporated Leyden but the owner made the mistake of paying to having it annexed by Melrose bc he thought the mayor and city would always be friendly to these types of places. Big mistake on his part.

Has anyone been to the new bar that use to be J’s? I think it is called Marsella’s bar or something like that.

[StanleyStankas]

J's was in unincorporated Leyden but the owner made the mistake of paying to having it annexed by Melrose bc he thought the mayor and city would always be friendly to these types of places. Big mistake on his part.

Has anyone been to the new bar that use to be Js? I think it is called Marsellas bar or something like that.From the mayor and mr. Illini. I reported here that the new place didn't look open even though it was confirmed it is indeed open. The last I saw as of today was that they have a sign asking people to have their events there like a banquet hall I would imagine. Ok I understand why he might do that and not be considered in uncle thomas's boys area by contrast. With all that has gone on on that strip I would believe that all of the politicos are edgy due to everything under the sun is being labeled "human trafficking". Sorry fellas that includes the downtown girls that wear two thousand dollar heels and four thousand dollar boots. And also live in a beautiful high rise condo over looking the skyline and or lake! So there! They TO are being held against their will!! Save them!!

[Illini333]

From the mayor and mr. Illini. I reported here that the new place didn't look open even though it was confirmed it is indeed open. The last I saw as of today was that they have a sign asking people to have their events there like a banquet hall I would imagine. Ok I understand why he might do that and not be considered in uncle thomas's boys area by contrast. With all that has gone on on that strip I would believe that all of the politicos are edgy due to everything under the sun is being labeled "human trafficking". Sorry fellas that includes the downtown girls that wear two thousand dollar heels and four thousand dollar boots. And also live in a beautiful high rise condo over looking the skyline and or lake! So there! They TO are being held against their will!! Save them!!I dug around and it's called "Masala Grill and Sports Bar". It appears to be an Indian owned place. That being said, I highly doubt any fun is going to be had there. So don't expect any dancers there. This place probably won't last to long. I doubt people will go there without the ladies working there. Plenty of sports bars up and down Mannheim and they are rarely packed. This place doesn't have a chance.

[Mayor Quimby]

I dug around and it's called "Masala Grill and Sports Bar". It appears to be an Indian owned place. That being said, I highly doubt any fun is going to be had there. So don't expect any dancers there. This place probably won't last to long. I doubt people will go there without the ladies working there. Plenty of sports bars up and down Mannheim and they are rarely packed. This place doesn't have a chance.Yep, Masalas is open for business, & can confirm what you say about new ownership. I stopped in once & they've completely redone the interior & it is nicer inside but just a regular bar & grill type place. Regardless of ownership, there is absolutely ZERO chance of any bar in Melrose having dancers even if they wanted to. That's an instant ticket to the same status as Louie's.

[StanleyStankas]

Yep, Masalas is open for business, & can confirm what you say about new ownership. I stopped in once & they've completely redone the interior & it is nicer inside but just a regular bar & grill type place. Regardless of ownership, there is absolutely ZERO chance of any bar in Melrose having dancers even if they wanted to. That's an instant ticket to the same status as Louie's.I mean the old playpen is a mexican restaurant and I can barely tell it's open. Imo someone I. E. A real estate agent or a management company sold a lease or buy to people that don't know the immediate terrain. I mean just the sign I saw that says they are looking for private events kind of red flagged them for me. That street is a weekday day street of commercial traffic and that is pretty much it!! The shot and a beer joints like the one just south of fullerton on the west side of heim has a steady clientele mostly catering to guys working nights that come in afterwards to mellow out prior to going back to the house and listen to their old lady b*tch and moan. I just don't see a legitimate restaurant that is not an easy in easy out franchise with a drive through making it on that street. I mean what would they offer? Gaming. That's up and down the strip these days already. Also in every surrounding strip center one will see at least one exclusive gaming place. Again I don't think the people that moved in know what goes on business wise around there. For their sake I hope I am wrong. Stosh.

[BeechNut79]

Yep, Masalas is open for business, & can confirm what you say about new ownership. I stopped in once & they've completely redone the interior & it is nicer inside but just a regular bar & grill type place. Regardless of ownership, there is absolutely ZERO chance of any bar in Melrose having dancers even if they wanted to. That's an instant ticket to the same status as Louie's.Does anyone know why the town banned all lap dancing because of the incident at J's, even if it isn't known for sure if it was even dancer related? A psychic I saw shortly after hearing about it predicted that they would get their dancing license back. Didn't ask for a time frame though.

[Mayor Quimby]

Does anyone know why the town banned all lap dancing because of the incident at J's, even if it isn't known for sure if it was even dancer related? A psychic I saw shortly after hearing about it predicted that they would get their dancing license back. Didn't ask for a time frame though.


The during the investigation, the locals had a warrant for any & all video the bar was in possession of from all security cams. Apparently the owner had years of video from all the various cams stored including the 2 cameras right above the dance area showing everything that went on there. There's speculation as to why he had all the video saved, but that's all rumors & opinions & I am sticking to info that is confirmed to be fact Once all that video was turned over, the Mayor, & all the village officials saw the activities from the dance area as well as the deals that were being done out in the open. At that point, the village put a "Dancer Ban" on all bars that were not licensed as "Entertainment" barsSo, I'm not trying to be a D-bag but you might want to scroll 8 posts down from yours to post #1102. The entire story is there. The village officials discovered there was more than dancing going on. Did your psychic explain to you that there never was a "dancing license" to begin with? That's why it was so easy for the village to implement the dancer ban. These places all started with the "lingerie fashion shows" that were run by outside companies. That's how they were able to do it without an "entertainment" license to my understanding.

[StanleyStankas]

So, I'm not trying to be a D-bag but you might want to scroll 8 posts down from yours to post #1102. The entire story is there. The village officials discovered there was more than dancing going on. Did your psychic explain to you that there never was a "dancing license" to begin with? That's why it was so easy for the village to implement the dancer ban. These places all started with the "lingerie fashion shows" that were run by outside companies. That's how they were able to do it without an "entertainment" license to my understanding.If I recall that back in the day they had something like pull tabs or something like where you bought chances to win prizes. It's been so long and I am so old I do not totally recall. However, the outside companies running the dancer situation that part I do remember and of course also that the licenses being given to these establishments like uncle louie's et al were / are completely different from say scores and the place next door.

[Mayor Quimby]

If I recall that back in the day they had something like pull tabs or something like where you bought chances to win prizes. It's been so long and I am so old I do not totally recall. However, the outside companies running the dancer situation that part I do remember and of course also that the licenses being given to these establishments like uncle louie's et al were / are completely different from say scores and the place next door.

Yes, if I understand correctly, they did not issue any special license since the girls were "visitors" from companies like Sneak Previews, Vogue Fashions (remember the Palos Park Madam?) & Helen Of Troy. They seemed to be viewed the same way as the people that stop in selling roses or tamales. I think everything changed when the bars all booted the Fashion Show companies out & started managing the girls on their own. I guess it they wanted to collect the show fees from the girls instead of that landing in the pockets of the Show company owners. But hey, I'm no psychic.

[StanleyStankas]

Yes, if I understand correctly, they did not issue any special license since the girls were "visitors" from companies like Sneak Previews, Vogue Fashions (remember the Palos Park Madam?) & Helen Of Troy. They seemed to be viewed the same way as the people that stop in selling roses or tamales. I think everything changed when the bars all booted the Fashion Show companies out & started managing the girls on their own. I guess it they wanted to collect the show fees from the girls instead of that landing in the pockets of the Show company owners. But hey, I'm no psychic.WTF was that about? I for see the girls coming back. Then pigs will fly. And, and, and. I remember a few of those names. If I recall there was always a bartender in kind of lingerie type outfit so when one walked in one knew they were in the right place. Also I do recall that the way they scooted around the license restrictions was by bringing in an outside company to produce the shows and handle the money and the transactions to the girls. In reality that worked. Problem is and I have had some experience in the private side of that game (I. E. Bachelor parties, divorce parties, golf outings) when I first got into business, it is indeed a major pain. You are dealing with girls that in their own words would tell me that if a girl is in the business they have at least one screw loose! Plus when you deal with horny dudes, money, drinks, women. It's a bad combo to begin with!

[BeechNut79]

So, I'm not trying to be a D-bag but you might want to scroll 8 posts down from yours to post #1102. The entire story is there. The village officials discovered there was more than dancing going on. Did your psychic explain to you that there never was a "dancing license" to begin with? That's why it was so easy for the village to implement the dancer ban. These places all started with the "lingerie fashion shows" that were run by outside companies. That's how they were able to do it without an "entertainment" license to my understanding.I may run this one by another psychic for a second opinion. Recently did ask one (not the one I asked about the dancer ban) whether she seeks personal escorting ever becoming legal in more if not all of the country. She replied that while sexual adventure is highly suppressed in the US and some other cultures this will change in the future because of our power of free will. We want the control in our own hands and not to be told by government what to do and how to do it, particularly when there is no harm. So, in time it will be made legal, just as it did with both gambling and now marijuana. But the feelings of shame and guilt will take a long time to go away, maybe even generations.

I feel that such companies are needed more now due to so much isolation which was happening even before the pandemic, largely due to the addiction to smartphones and the Internet, but actually going back to the AIDS scare. During the couple of prior decades it was fairly easy for most of us to get it for free. And, last but certainly not least, isn't it obvious that prohibition of this activity hasn't worked any more than it did with liquor a century ago?

[Mayor Quimby]

I may run this one by another psychic for a second opinion. Recently did ask one (not the one I asked about the dancer ban) whether she seeks personal escorting ever becoming legal in more if not all of the country. She replied that while sexual adventure is highly suppressed in the US and some other cultures this will change in the future because of our power of free will. We want the control in our own hands and not to be told by government what to do and how to do it, particularly when there is no harm. So, in time it will be made legal, just as it did with both gambling and now marijuana. But the feelings of shame and guilt will take a long time to go away, maybe even generations.

I feel that such companies are needed more now due to so much isolation which was happening even before the pandemic, largely due to the addiction to smartphones and the Internet, but actually going back to the AIDS scare. During the couple of prior decades it was fairly easy for most of us to get it for free. And, last but certainly not least, isn't it obvious that prohibition of this activity hasn't worked any more than it did with liquor a century ago?

OK, so comparing to prohibition? Not sure it's the same as it was 100 years ago. Let's hop in the Wayback Machine once again & take a look at all the surrounding areas.

Rockford was an absolute goldmine for any activity you wanted back in the 80's & 90's. There were these Lingerie Shops where you'd go in I select your "model" that would take you to a private room & put on a little fashion show for you & would offer a wide open menu. There were a couple of those on a street (Broadway, I believe, named) that would have girls standing in the storefront windows in lingerie to attract customers (One called "Brandy's"). The last 2 of those were raided & shutdown a few years ago. There was an amazing stripclub scene there as well. My fav was a little place called the Hideaway. There were some cuties & everything was available. Now, there's little to nothing going on in the Rock Town. Just the occasional SW. The stripclubs are pathetic & nothing to be had.

There was also Belvidere. That little town had the 2 best massage places ever (Oh how I miss Terry). Now that town has ZERO activities.

How about NW Indiana? Back in the 90's there were many wild stripclubs with pretty open menus. There were a few flat out brothels that have been shut down. There was a little diner called "Mickeys Rock & Roll Cafe" on the main strip in downtown Hammond in the middle of the block mixed in with dime stores & hardware stores etc. It was not uncommon to walk in & see "activity" going on right at the bar, LOL.

Speaking of brothels, anyone remember what Cicero & Lyons were like in the 80's & 90's? The first stripclub I ever went into was called "My Uncles Place" on Ogden & 1st Ave. I was offered everything within 5 minutes of sitting down. I'm sure there's others that remember Towne Review & Show Of Shows. The Chicago metro area was a smorgasbord of activity back then. There's also the whole Craigslist, Backpage etc scenario. Slowly the politicians, county boys & locals have chiseled away at the options we all have for this hobby & the Mannheim Rd scene is just the latest remnant to fall.

I personally have not explored the SW scene, I'm just too intimidated by that. I also have not really dove into the Escort scene. Just don't know where to begin & a bit intimidated by that as well. My hobbies have pretty much revolved around the the clubs located in all the above mentioned areas. All the changes over the years have left me with very few options. Pretty much about to give up as I just don't have it in me to start over in a different arena (SW, Escorts etc).

So, to say prohibition of these activities "hasn't worked", doesn't seem to be a very accurate statement. A few years ago, if I was in the mood for some fun, I'd hop in the car & had several options. Twenty five years ago, I had more options than I knew what to do with. Now, the Chicago area has become a wasteland over the past decade.

As far as psychics go? Don't even know where to begin on that one. Let me know if you find one that offers "other" services / takeout.

[BeechNut79]

OK, so comparing to prohibition? Not sure it's the same as it was 100 years ago. Let's hop in the Wayback Machine once again & take a look at all the surrounding areas.

Rockford was an absolute goldmine for any activity you wanted back in the 80's & 90's. There were these Lingerie Shops where you'd go in I select your "model" that would take you to a private room & put on a little fashion show for you & would offer a wide open menu. There were a couple of those on a street (Broadway, I believe, named) that would have girls standing in the storefront windows in lingerie to attract customers (One called "Brandy's"). The last 2 of those were raided & shutdown a few years ago. There was an amazing stripclub scene there as well. My fav was a little place called the Hideaway. There were some cuties & everything was available. Now, there's little to nothing going on in the Rock Town. Just the occasional SW. The stripclubs are pathetic & nothing to be had.

There was also Belvidere. That little town had the 2 best massage places ever (Oh how I miss Terry). Now that town has ZERO activities.

How about NW Indiana? Back in the 90's there were many wild stripclubs with pretty open menus. There were a few flat out brothels that have been shut down. There was a little diner called "Mickeys Rock & Roll Cafe" on the main strip in downtown Hammond in the middle of the block mixed in with dime stores & hardware stores etc. It was not uncommon to walk in & see "activity" going on right at the bar, LOL.

Speaking of brothels, anyone remember what Cicero & Lyons were like in the 80's & 90's? The first stripclub I ever went into was called "My Uncles Place" on Ogden & 1st Ave. I was offered everything within 5 minutes of sitting down. I'm sure there's others that remember Towne Review & Show Of Shows. The Chicago metro area was a smorgasbord of activity back then. There's also the whole Craigslist, Backpage etc scenario. Slowly the politicians, county boys & locals have chiseled away at the options we all have for this hobby & the Mannheim Rd scene is just the latest remnant to fall.

I personally have not explored the SW scene, I'm just too intimidated by that. I also have not really dove into the Escort scene. Just don't know where to begin & a bit intimidated by that as well. My hobbies have pretty much revolved around the the clubs located in all the above mentioned areas. All the changes over the years have left me with very few options. Pretty much about to give up as I just don't have it in me to start over in a different arena (SW, Escorts etc).

So, to say prohibition of these activities "hasn't worked", doesn't seem to be a very accurate statement. A few years ago, if I was in the mood for some fun, I'd hop in the car & had several options. Twenty five years ago, I had more options than I knew what to do with. Now, the Chicago area has become a wasteland over the past decade.

As far as psychics go? Don't even know where to begin on that one. Let me know if you find one that offers "other" services / takeout.Much of the scene has gone underground or online. But SW hasn't been totally eradicated. The same as formal prohibition didn't eradicate liquor. But the same crusade was there as places selling booze at the time were often harassed and raided. And I can recall when Lynn's was a hot bed for this activity. I often drove by the places and one night I finally mustered up the courage to go inside. The very minute I went in a grouchy old woman behind the counter barked "Would you like to buy Susie a cocktail? Those places were total ripoffs and really deserved to be shutdown.

[Gurukkk12]

Hey everyone,

It's been awhile since my last post. Stopped in by Carls this afternoon for the first time in a year. I'm sitting at the bar with my beer and looking at my phone, when ruby stops by asking if I want a dance. Seeing that I just got there I said come back in 15 minutes. She comes back we go for a dance, nice dance with plenty of grinding and touching. We're done I go back to the bar have a another beer and look at my phone. Couple of girls stop by and I said no to their offer.

When I first walked in I noticed a husky dude with a shirt that has security on it. There's another Hispanic sitting by the music is, another sitting at the end of the bar and a 3rd one at a table behind the bar stools. None had drinks, all sitting alone. I seen this before at Jays before the shooting. The gangs have taken over Carls. Later in the evening I get a text from an # I don't recognize. It says that he was a member of a Mexican drug cartel and that I was bothering his girls, and that I would pay with blood if I ignored his message. Says he knows where I live and information about my family. I don't know how they got to my phone, it never left my side.

Any body hear of any thing like this? Today I got a call from a no caller ID #, I did not answer. Any thoughts?

If you PM I will tell you the name of the cartel / gang. I didn't post since I figured the man would delete it. I googled it and it legit.

[SouthSideRed]

Hey everyone,

It's been awhile since my last post. Stopped in by Carls this afternoon for the first time in a year. I'm sitting at the bar with my beer and looking at my phone, when ruby stops by asking if I want a dance. Seeing that I just got there I said come back in 15 minutes. She comes back we go for a dance, nice dance with plenty of grinding and touching. We're done I go back to the bar have a another beer and look at my phone. Couple of girls stop by and I said no to their offer.

When I first walked in I noticed a husky dude with a shirt that has security on it. There's another Hispanic sitting by the music is, another sitting at the end of the bar and a 3rd one at a table behind the bar stools. None had drinks, all sitting alone. I seen this before at Jays before the shooting. The gangs have taken over Carls. Later in the evening I get a text from an # I don't recognize. It says that he was a member of a Mexican drug cartel and that I was bothering his girls, and that I would pay with blood if I ignored his message. Says he knows where I live and information about my family. I don't know how they got to my phone, it never left my side.

Any body hear of any thing like this? Today I got a call from a no caller ID #, I did not answer. Any thoughts?

If you PM I will tell you the name of the cartel / gang. I didn't post since I figured the man would delete it. I googled it and it legit.So my question is; do you think that they pissed that you got a dance from one of the girls or that you ignored the others?

[Ump1969]

OK, so comparing to prohibition? Not sure it's the same as it was 100 years ago. Let's hop in the Wayback Machine once again & take a look at all the surrounding areas.

Rockford was an absolute goldmine for any activity you wanted back in the 80's & 90's. There were these Lingerie Shops where you'd go in I select your "model" that would take you to a private room & put on a little fashion show for you & would offer a wide open menu. There were a couple of those on a street (Broadway, I believe, named) that would have girls standing in the storefront windows in lingerie to attract customers (One called "Brandy's"). The last 2 of those were raided & shutdown a few years ago. There was an amazing stripclub scene there as well. My fav was a little place called the Hideaway. There were some cuties & everything was available. Now, there's little to nothing going on in the Rock Town. Just the occasional SW. The stripclubs are pathetic & nothing to be had.

There was also Belvidere. That little town had the 2 best massage places ever (Oh how I miss Terry). Now that town has ZERO activities..I am in total agreement. Your post would have needed to be a lot longer to truly point out all the effects. For example, I used to regularly visit Chicao Rd in the Heights as well as the forest preserves. Forget it now- for over a decade. I have also met several girls that have not found online to be such a gold mine. There are many mongers that if they could afford online prices, would never been looking on the streets in the first place. Personally, I won't pay $150 or $200 for some of the same girls I have seen on the street for $40. Online does not make them sexier or better at sex. Imagine getting a McCheeseburger for $1 at the drive-thru and then finding out you needed to order it online for $6. 00 in advance.

[Mayor Quimby]

Gentlemen, Bobby's has hit a new low. I was in the area recently & decided to make a stop in to see if there were any familiar faces. It was relatively busy with most of the seats at the bar taken & people playing pool, slots etc. That cute little Latina bartender that used to work at J's was working behind the bar shaking her can for tips (fully clothed of course). There were a few familiar faces, some of the girls that used to dance there hang out when she's tending bar. At first I thought that might be a good thing, wow was I wrong. One of them approached me & asked for a drink. She was not at all anyone I'd have wanted to spend time with but I figured maybe I could get the low down from her (MISTAKE! She went into this sob story how she can't pay rent etc etc etc. Then she started with the begging for a tip & even pretty much said that the customers need to support the former dancers. I politely pointed out that a lot of places are hiring & many of the other dancers are working regular jobs now, & she went into all kinds of double talk at that comment. I realized she wasn't about to back off so I slid her a 5 to get her off my back. She wasn't happy with that amount but realized that's all I was going to give up.

At that point I saw an empty chair further down the bar next to a cute petite AA former dancer that I recognized. I sat down & said hello (MISTAKE #2). We chatted for a bit, just basic "how have you been" etc & I bought her a drink. About 5 minutes later, the dude sitting on the other side of her sticks his nose into the conversation & tells me I need to "tip the lady". I thought he was joking & he made it VERY clear that he expected me to tip her for her time. Now keep in mind, we're talking about 5 minutes & basic "what have you been up to" type conversation. Now this dude was a very large framed thug type & I was feeling quite intimidated. At that point someone came up to him & started a conversation. I took that distraction as an opportunity to get out of there. The Irony is, I would likely have tipped her as she was one I liked to get dances from & I was hoping to see where it could go, but I don't like being strong armed.

If that's not bad enough, at one point, that train wreck Dana/Dayna walks in. Turns out, they're allowing her to hang out & hustle guys for whatever she can. For those of you that don't know her, avoid at all cost. She's a complete scam artist.

Since this happened, I've asked around & apparently the girls are doing this when they feel they can get away with it. The former J's bartender is friends with all these girls & lets them do what they want. I don't know if this is the norm, but that one time is enough to keep me out of there. Prior to this visit, I had not been there in a couple months & I don't plan to go there any time soon. What a crap hole Bobby's has become.

[StanleyStankas]

Gentlemen, Bobby's has hit a new low. I was in the area recently & decided to make a stop in to see if there were any familiar faces. It was relatively busy with most of the seats at the bar taken & people playing pool, slots etc. That cute little Latina bartender that used to work at J's was working behind the bar shaking her can for tips (fully clothed of course). There were a few familiar faces, some of the girls that used to dance there hang out when she's tending bar. At first I thought that might be a good thing, wow was I wrong. One of them approached me & asked for a drink. She was not at all anyone I'd have wanted to spend time with but I figured maybe I could get the low down from her (MISTAKE! She went into this sob story how she can't pay rent etc etc etc. Then she started with the begging for a tip & even pretty much said that the customers need to support the former dancers. I politely pointed out that a lot of places are hiring & many of the other dancers are working regular jobs now, & she went into all kinds of double talk at that comment. I realized she wasn't about to back off so I slid her a 5 to get her off my back. She wasn't happy with that amount but realized that's all I was going to give up.

At that point I saw an empty chair further down the bar next to a cute petite AA former dancer that I recognized. I sat down & said hello (MISTAKE #2). We chatted for a bit, just basic "how have you been" etc & I bought her a drink. About 5 minutes later, the dude sitting on the other side of her sticks his nose into the conversation & tells me I need to "tip the lady". I thought he was joking & he made it VERY clear that he expected me to tip her for her time. Now keep in mind, we're talking about 5 minutes & basic "what have you been up to" type conversation. Now this dude was a very large framed thug type & I was feeling quite intimidated. At that point someone came up to him & started a conversation. I took that distraction as an opportunity to get out of there. The Irony is, I would likely have tipped her as she was one I liked to get dances from & I was hoping to see where it could go, but I don't like being strong armed.

If that's not bad enough, at one point, that train wreck Dana/Dayna walks in. Turns out, they're allowing her to hang out & hustle guys for whatever she can. For those of you that don't know her, avoid at all cost. She's a complete scam artist.

Since this happened, I've asked around & apparently the girls are doing this when they feel they can get away with it. The former J's bartender is friends with all these girls & lets them do what they want. I don't know if this is the norm, but that one time is enough to keep me out of there. Prior to this visit, I had not been there in a couple months & I don't plan to go there any time soon. What a crap hole Bobby's has become.I'm thinking they all know that it's slim pickings in the area and they can pull their s**t. I am just glad you got out ok and no one tried something in the parking lot or to your car. I don't like that location because it's a big a** parking lot and the place is kinda in that little corner. Also it was reported (by you not sure?) that carl's has become a gang place. Yea dudes hanging around while I am chatting up a girl I am interested in and saying oh you need to tip her. That does not work. I would have done the same. Just get gone. Sounds like the vultures are out! They are never going to go into legit work because they are too lazy and don't want to be told what to do when. That is why they are "dancers" of sorts. So it's probably a double edged sword meaning that the girls and the club know that we don't have many if any options and they don't have as many place to hustle so they are getting very aggressive. That just does not work for me. And I have plenty of mad cash to spend on the right situation, however no a dude is not going to tell me how to spend it!! Stosh be safe fellaz summer time! Hot, hot, hot! Peace.

[SouthSideRed]

Gentlemen, Bobby's has hit a new low. I was in the area recently & decided to make a stop in to see if there were any familiar faces. It was relatively busy with most of the seats at the bar taken & people playing pool, slots etc. That cute little Latina bartender that used to work at J's was working behind the bar shaking her can for tips (fully clothed of course). There were a few familiar faces, some of the girls that used to dance there hang out when she's tending bar. At first I thought that might be a good thing, wow was I wrong. One of them approached me & asked for a drink. She was not at all anyone I'd have wanted to spend time with but I figured maybe I could get the low down from her (MISTAKE! She went into this sob story how she can't pay rent etc etc etc. Then she started with the begging for a tip & even pretty much said that the customers need to support the former dancers. I politely pointed out that a lot of places are hiring & many of the other dancers are working regular jobs now, & she went into all kinds of double talk at that comment. I realized she wasn't about to back off so I slid her a 5 to get her off my back. She wasn't happy with that amount but realized that's all I was going to give up.

At that point I saw an empty chair further down the bar next to a cute petite AA former dancer that I recognized. I sat down & said hello (MISTAKE #2). We chatted for a bit, just basic "how have you been" etc & I bought her a drink. About 5 minutes later, the dude sitting on the other side of her sticks his nose into the conversation & tells me I need to "tip the lady". I thought he was joking & he made it VERY clear that he expected me to tip her for her time. Now keep in mind, we're talking about 5 minutes & basic "what have you been up to" type conversation. Now this dude was a very large framed thug type & I was feeling quite intimidated. At that point someone came up to him & started a conversation. I took that distraction as an opportunity to get out of there. The Irony is, I would likely have tipped her as she was one I liked to get dances from & I was hoping to see where it could go, but I don't like being strong armed.

If that's not bad enough, at one point, that train wreck Dana/Dayna walks in. Turns out, they're allowing her to hang out & hustle guys for whatever she can. For those of you that don't know her, avoid at all cost. She's a complete scam artist.

Since this happened, I've asked around & apparently the girls are doing this when they feel they can get away with it. The former J's bartender is friends with all these girls & lets them do what they want. I don't know if this is the norm, but that one time is enough to keep me out of there. Prior to this visit, I had not been there in a couple months & I don't plan to go there any time soon. What a crap hole Bobby's has become.Stopped in at Bobby's during on a weekday afternoon, I thought something may be going on due to high volume of cars in the parking lot. Plus I was hoping for a nice chair massage from Jeanie. Walked in and all there was a couple of guys playing the slot machines and one other guy sitting at the bar. There was not one girl in the place except for the bartender.

I left after one drink and headed up the street and noticed that Carl's lot was full, but after reading about gang bangers there decided just to go home. Was tempted to try All Stars but I just can't get over that whole scanning of I'd's.

[Mayor Quimby]

I'm thinking they all know that it's slim pickings in the area and they can pull their s**t. I am just glad you got out ok and no one tried something in the parking lot or to your car. I don't like that location because it's a big a** parking lot and the place is kinda in that little corner. Also it was reported (by you not sure?) that carl's has become a gang place. Yea dudes hanging around while I am chatting up a girl I am interested in and saying oh you need to tip her. That does not work. I would have done the same. Just get gone. Sounds like the vultures are out! They are never going to go into legit work because they are too lazy and don't want to be told what to do when. That is why they are "dancers" of sorts. So it's probably a double edged sword meaning that the girls and the club know that we don't have many if any options and they don't have as many place to hustle so they are getting very aggressive. That just does not work for me. And I have plenty of mad cash to spend on the right situation, however no a dude is not going to tell me how to spend it!! Stosh be safe fellaz summer time! Hot, hot, hot! Peace.Yeah, overall the whole situation sucked. Don't get me wrong, the dude that tried to persuade me to "tip the lady" didn't come across "threatening" me. More like a letting me know it was expected. I'm pretty sure he was a boyfriend / driver / manager? It just made me uncomfortable with the situation, enough so that I took the opportunity to remove myself from the situation before it got ugly. It's just such poor business practice. I went in with a couple hundred bucks in my pocket & would have parted with it for the right situation. Instead, I left after 10-15 minutes.

As far as the one "begging" for tips. She just seems lazy. Too lazy to go get a real job. In her double talk, it came across that a real job would mean no more sitting & drinking all day. I guess I can scratch Bobby's off my list of places to visit. I'm realizing that my hobbying days are pretty much over.

[StanleyStankas]

Yeah, overall the whole situation sucked. Don't get me wrong, the dude that tried to persuade me to "tip the lady" didn't come across "threatening" me. More like a letting me know it was expected. I'm pretty sure he was a boyfriend / driver / manager? It just made me uncomfortable with the situation, enough so that I took the opportunity to remove myself from the situation before it got ugly. It's just such poor business practice. I went in with a couple hundred bucks in my pocket & would have parted with it for the right situation. Instead, I left after 10-15 minutes.

As far as the one "begging" for tips. She just seems lazy. Too lazy to go get a real job. In her double talk, it came across that a real job would mean no more sitting & drinking all day. I guess I can scratch Bobby's off my list of places to visit. I'm realizing that my hobbying days are pretty much over.We might have to go without on occasions and just spend more on one good situation. I know also that generally the guys that post on here have the cash to spend, however just don't want to be hustled. Intimidating or not boyfriend, driver or not (and I have hired security guys and drivers when I was booking this type of talent back when I first started) the girl has to control this situation. If she intends to do business and why the f**k else would she be there? Some dude coming up and telling me to tip the lady or even suggesting that is more than a reason for me to leave with my money. Like you said you would have parted with a couple of benjamins for the right situation. These people are just too fu*kin dumb to realize that their actions and lack of finesse are costing them cash! Stosh thanks for this report mayor!

[StanleyStankas]

Hey everyone,

It's been awhile since my last post. Stopped in by Carls this afternoon for the first time in a year. I'm sitting at the bar with my beer and looking at my phone, when ruby stops by asking if I want a dance. Seeing that I just got there I said come back in 15 minutes. She comes back we go for a dance, nice dance with plenty of grinding and touching. We're done I go back to the bar have a another beer and look at my phone. Couple of girls stop by and I said no to their offer.

When I first walked in I noticed a husky dude with a shirt that has security on it. There's another Hispanic sitting by the music is, another sitting at the end of the bar and a 3rd one at a table behind the bar stools. None had drinks, all sitting alone. I seen this before at Jays before the shooting. The gangs have taken over Carls. Later in the evening I get a text from an # I don't recognize. It says that he was a member of a Mexican drug cartel and that I was bothering his girls, and that I would pay with blood if I ignored his message. Says he knows where I live and information about my family. I don't know how they got to my phone, it never left my side.

Any body hear of any thing like this? Today I got a call from a no caller ID #, I did not answer. Any thoughts?

If you PM I will tell you the name of the cartel / gang. I didn't post since I figured the man would delete it. I googled it and it legit.That the entire area including many of the kid type parks have an infestation of gangs and assorted scum. One of the local "over seers" as I like to call them has several village jobs in security in melrose, unincorporated leyden and the surrounding little villages. He said they are hanging, tagging and generally being mopes all over the area. To the point that melrose just installed a brand new kids park and the garbage scumbags have already gang tagged the diaper changing beds for the moms to change their babies! It's a jungle and imo these animals want to act like they are in a zoo need to be caged! Stosh stay safe.

[Bill Stuart]

Hey everyone,

It's been awhile since my last post. Stopped in by Carls this afternoon for the first time in a year. I'm sitting at the bar with my beer and looking at my phone, when ruby stops by asking if I want a dance. Seeing that I just got there I said come back in 15 minutes. She comes back we go for a dance, nice dance with plenty of grinding and touching. We're done I go back to the bar have a another beer and look at my phone. Couple of girls stop by and I said no to their offer.

When I first walked in I noticed a husky dude with a shirt that has security on it. There's another Hispanic sitting by the music is, another sitting at the end of the bar and a 3rd one at a table behind the bar stools. None had drinks, all sitting alone. I seen this before at Jays before the shooting. The gangs have taken over Carls. Later in the evening I get a text from an # I don't recognize. It says that he was a member of a Mexican drug cartel and that I was bothering his girls, and that I would pay with blood if I ignored his message. Says he knows where I live and information about my family. I don't know how they got to my phone, it never left my side.

Any body hear of any thing like this? Today I got a call from a no caller ID #, I did not answer. Any thoughts?

If you PM I will tell you the name of the cartel / gang. I didn't post since I figured the man would delete it. I googled it and it legit.Wow.

Thanks for the insight. It will be a while before I stop in there or even Bobby's again, not that there is much going on these days.

Maybe they got your info from you license plate on you car when you left. Especially if they have an 'in' with LE.

It's funny because I have been hoping that the activity along Mannheim was coming back. But this may put an end to it all for me.

Bill.

[NiceChicaGaGuy]

Hey everyone,

It's been awhile since my last post. Stopped in by Carls this afternoon for the first time in a year. I'm sitting at the bar with my beer and looking at my phone, when ruby stops by asking if I want a dance. Seeing that I just got there I said come back in 15 minutes. She comes back we go for a dance, nice dance with plenty of grinding and touching. We're done I go back to the bar have a another beer and look at my phone. Couple of girls stop by and I said no to their offer.

When I first walked in I noticed a husky dude with a shirt that has security on it. There's another Hispanic sitting by the music is, another sitting at the end of the bar and a 3rd one at a table behind the bar stools. None had drinks, all sitting alone. I seen this before at Jays before the shooting. The gangs have taken over Carls. Later in the evening I get a text from an # I don't recognize. It says that he was a member of a Mexican drug cartel and that I was bothering his girls, and that I would pay with blood if I ignored his message. Says he knows where I live and information about my family. I don't know how they got to my phone, it never left my side.

Any body hear of any thing like this? Today I got a call from a no caller ID #, I did not answer. Any thoughts?

If you PM I will tell you the name of the cartel / gang. I didn't post since I figured the man would delete it. I googled it and it legit.Hey, this was a month ago; I was just curious if the phone stuff / harassment had continued.

[NiceChicaGaGuy]

Stopped in at Bobby's during on a weekday afternoon, I thought something may be going on due to high volume of cars in the parking lot. Plus I was hoping for a nice chair massage from Jeanie. Walked in and all there was a couple of guys playing the slot machines and one other guy sitting at the bar. There was not one girl in the place except for the bartender.

I left after one drink and headed up the street and noticed that Carl's lot was full, but after reading about gang bangers there decided just to go home. Was tempted to try All Stars but I just can't get over that whole scanning of I'd's.I personally don't see the problem with the scanning of IDs; I have a friend who won't go there for the same reason. A lot of legit bars do it, too. It's my experience that they run a pretty tight ship at All Stars, so getting caught up in a Js type situation, although certainly possible, is unlikely, so it'll probably never come into play or be used. I'm not criticizing your opinion; just politely disagreeing.

[Himes]

When I first walked in I noticed a husky dude with a shirt that has security on it. There's another Hispanic sitting by the music is, another sitting at the end of the bar and a 3rd one at a table behind the bar stools. None had drinks, all sitting alone. I seen this before at Jays before the shooting. The gangs have taken over Carls. Later in the evening I get a text from an # I don't recognize. It says that he was a member of a Mexican drug cartel and that I was bothering his girls, and that I would pay with blood if I ignored his message. Says he knows where I live and information about my family. I don't know how they got to my phone, it never left my side.

Any body hear of any thing like this? Today I got a call from a no caller I'd #, I did not answer. Any thoughts?

If you PM I will tell you the name of the cartel / gang. I didn't post since I figured the man would delete it. I googled it and it legit.

Do a Google search for Smart Phone Spying Software. The scary things in the movies and tv shows have once again become reality. Someone can steal your phone info by just sitting next to you in a bar.

[Himes]

Please note that I was not the creator of the previous post. Somehow my response, which is the last paragraph, was added to post and my name replaced that of the OP.

[StanleyStankas]

Please note that I was not the creator of the previous post. Somehow my response, which is the last paragraph, was added to post and my name replaced that of the OP.As much when I first saw this and I appreciate your post of clarification. Stay safe in the area, fellaz. Dart's family is all over around the area especially very recently around the no tels (the waterbed one). There is a ton of homeless at the corners all along heim. Some of that is dart's jurisdiction. Just a lot and I mean a lot more of all colors and creeds with signs.

[Illini333]

Has anyone been here? It's in Itasca on Lake st in a shopping center. It's supposedly open 24 hours.

[StanleyStankas]

Has anyone been here? It's in Itasca on Lake st in a shopping center. It's supposedly open 24 hours.I believe if it's the one I am thinking of (lake at?) 24 hours smells of a jackshack, however others may confirm. Over there all the time so let me google map it and if I have anything will report in. We have been kinda dead over on melrose here so thanks for looking around and posting. Stosh.

[NiceChicaGaGuy]

I believe if it's the one I am thinking of (lake at?) 24 hours smells of a jackshack, however others may confirm. Over there all the time so let me google map it and if I have anything will report in. We have been kinda dead over on melrose here so thanks for looking around and posting. Stosh.It is a jackshack, and an overpriced one at that. The girls are pretty, though. I went there about 10 years ago.

[InstantMagic]

Gentlemen, Bobby's has hit a new low. I was in the area recently & decided to make a stop in to see if there were any familiar faces. It was relatively busy with most of the seats at the bar taken & people playing pool, slots etc. That cute little Latina bartender that used to work at J's was working behind the bar shaking her can for tips (fully clothed of course). There were a few familiar faces, some of the girls that used to dance there hang out when she's tending bar. At first I thought that might be a good thing, wow was I wrong. One of them approached me & asked for a drink. She was not at all anyone I'd have wanted to spend time with but I figured maybe I could get the low down from her (MISTAKE! She went into this sob story how she can't pay rent etc etc etc. Then she started with the begging for a tip & even pretty much said that the customers need to support the former dancers. I politely pointed out that a lot of places are hiring & many of the other dancers are working regular jobs now, & she went into all kinds of double talk at that comment. I realized she wasn't about to back off so I slid her a 5 to get her off my back. She wasn't happy with that amount but realized that's all I was going to give up.

At that point I saw an empty chair further down the bar next to a cute petite AA former dancer that I recognized. I sat down & said hello (MISTAKE #2). We chatted for a bit, just basic "how have you been" etc & I bought her a drink. About 5 minutes later, the dude sitting on the other side of her sticks his nose into the conversation & tells me I need to "tip the lady". I thought he was joking & he made it VERY clear that he expected me to tip her for her time. Now keep in mind, we're talking about 5 minutes & basic "what have you been up to" type conversation. Now this dude was a very large framed thug type & I was feeling quite intimidated. At that point someone came up to him & started a conversation. I took that distraction as an opportunity to get out of there. The Irony is, I would likely have tipped her as she was one I liked to get dances from & I was hoping to see where it could go, but I don't like being strong armed.

If that's not bad enough, at one point, that train wreck Dana/Dayna walks in. Turns out, they're allowing her to hang out & hustle guys for whatever she can. For those of you that don't know her, avoid at all cost. She's a complete scam artist.

Since this happened, I've asked around & apparently the girls are doing this when they feel they can get away with it. The former J's bartender is friends with all these girls & lets them do what they want. I don't know if this is the norm, but that one time is enough to keep me out of there. Prior to this visit, I had not been there in a couple months & I don't plan to go there any time soon. What a crap hole Bobby's has become.This story confirms a lot of my suspicions about the area that I posted in another thread (even mentioned Dana there as well, I'll bet hands down we are talking about the same girl. Dana "The runner" I know that bartender you are talking about as well. She's absolutely gorgeous but interacting with her is maddening because she's a money sponge for nothing in return. Just like you said. Comes up and bops up and down or shakes her (admittedly amazing) ass and expects a dollar every time. Also, the guy you are talking about who demanded you tipped sounds like this guy that used to hang out with Monica (white, middle aged red-head, very demur but hard-nosed and not desirable much at all). If it's the same guy he used to slough around with her as sort of a phony, make-shift thug. We humored him when we all hung out, but if it came down to it the guy had no right being loud to anyone outside of the fact that you know he's carrying something. He aint going to push back just with his hands.

I actually haven't been to Bobby's probably since late 2019 now. Still not entirely sure what happened to J's. Back to Dana. She's actually great and sexy as all hell when she is baselined. But when she's manic or hopped up she's a nut and wants to put people in headlocks and whatnot. Crazy. Also wonder whatever happened to "Ashley / Angela" - legit pretty Italian girl. She was the Mannheim scenes best kept secret. Swore she only danced, but it was the best kept lie on the street. For enough money she'd get in a car with someone and disappear. Worth every dollar though.

[Scott40]

The Mannheim lingerie bar scene in general is a sad state of affairs these days. The glory days seem to be so far gone now, at least 10-12 years removed. I think it's only a matter of time before Bobby's and Carl's are shut down and don't have dancers anymore as well. I long for the days of the bars like One Step Beyond on Lake St. And even Louie's which closed down. I drive thru there once every so often and it looks totally different than it used to. Almost like a ghost town. I think the seediness was a big part of the allure.

[StanCopier]

For 15+ years I loved being able to take a short drive to the strip to visit whichever bar was giving me the most attention at the time. Whether it was Bobby's, the old Bobby's, or the old old Bobby's on Lake street, along with Louie's and J's, always exciting to see who was working, who was walking in to work after you got settled, which girls surprised you with how liberal they were with their hands (and other body parts) during dances and who gave out there numbers with ease and were actually up for OTC.

It all just ended five minutes ago but for many of us it really is sad, it was a part of our lives, mine part of my work-day once ever other week. To potentially make a new friend on every trip, and many times, some really freaky friends who were not afraid to show it to the right person.

Where to now?

[Scott40]

For 15+ years I loved being able to take a short drive to the strip to visit whichever bar was giving me the most attention at the time. Whether it was Bobby's, the old Bobby's, or the old old Bobby's on Lake street, along with Louie's and J's, always exciting to see who was working, who was walking in to work after you got settled, which girls surprised you with how liberal they were with their hands (and other body parts) during dances and who gave out there numbers with ease and were actually up for OTC.

It all just ended five minutes ago but for many of us it really is sad, it was a part of our lives, mine part of my work-day once ever other week. To potentially make a new friend on every trip, and many times, some really freaky friends who were not afraid to show it to the right person.

Where to now?What do you mean "it all just ended 5 minutes ago?" Is Bobby's closed for good? Not that I would really miss it as it was always my last resort for the bars but just curious.

[RubLuvr]

The Mannheim lingerie bar scene in general is a sad state of affairs these days. The glory days seem to be so far gone now, at least 10-12 years removed. I think it's only a matter of time before Bobby's and Carl's are shut down and don't have dancers anymore as well. I long for the days of the bars like One Step Beyond on Lake St. And even Louie's which closed down. I drive thru there once every so often and it looks totally different than it used to. Almost like a ghost town. I think the seediness was a big part of the allure.20 years ago, when the old Cherry Club and One Step and Bobby's and Carl's with the garage door access to the back were rocking was in my opinion really the last good time in the Mannheim area, gone downhill ever since. Now the deeper they drive the girls with government interference the more of a clip joint and rip off and violent atmosphere you get rather than fun, naked chicks and a seedy atmosphere.

[Scott40]

Is Carl's the only bikini bar still open or did that close, too?

[Mayor Quimby]

Is Carl's the only bikini bar still open or did that close, too?Yes, Carls is the last remnant of what used to be a very active scene. It continues to operate because it's in Stone Park as opposed to all the others that were in Melrose Park. Bobby's is still open but does not have dancers anymore due to Melrose passing the 'Dancer Ban' ordinance. A few people have hinted at some private locations popping up but I do not know of any in that area. If anyone has info on these to share, I'd appreciate a private message.

[HardwareMan42]

FYI. Louies is now Madusas. Open for business but no girls working the hustle.

[SouthSideRed]

Just wondering, has anybody been to Madusas since it opened? Is it an okay place to catch a drink or two?

[Scott40]

I heard that was was going on for years at the bars was because of a guy named Steve / Stevie who I've heard some refer to as "the biggest loser", is that true? Is he the main reason why the bars are shut down for good now?

[Admin2]

Can we not mix the never fucking ending political stupidity with the looking for pussy to smash?

I don't give a fuck what color dildo you prefer having shoved up your ass (red or blue), just keep it off the forum.

A2

[BabyCheech]

I heard that was was going on for years at the bars was because of a guy named Steve / Stevie who I've heard some refer to as "the biggest loser", is that true? Is he the main reason why the bars are shut down for good now?I'm not sure if your post was replying to a prior one but it seems disconnected from the conversation. Is there a backstory I am missing? The only place I know of that's still active is All Stars in McCook and that's quite a ways from Mannheim and lake Street. I definitely miss the old days. I have hope that there will be plenty more fun to be had.

[Mayor Quimby]

I heard that was was going on for years at the bars was because of a guy named Steve / Stevie who I've heard some refer to as "the biggest loser", is that true? Is he the main reason why the bars are shut down for good now?I think you're speaking about that dude that went on any & every site possible to badmouth a certain dancer that turned him down. He had fallen in "love" & started stalking both in person as well as online. He was making daily posts dragging her through the mud after she rejected him. I don't think he ever posted on this site because that type stuff isn't tolerated here. He was eventually arrested & put away for a while on an unrelated matter. Out of respect, I won't mention her name & I don't think she dances anymore. It was talked about in the bars a lot but that was about 10 or more years ago if I recall.

That had nothing to do with the bars closing as it was so long ago. The shooting at J's is what lead to the dancer ban. That has been discussed at great length over the past couple years. If you'd like to read back on the topic, go back about 13 pages to Oct / Nov of 2020, starting around posts mid 950's.

The only bar in the Mannheim area with dancers is Carls (because it's in Stone Park not Melrose).

[StanleyStankas]

I think you're speaking about that dude that went on any & every site possible to badmouth a certain dancer that turned him down. He had fallen in "love" & started stalking both in person as well as online. He was making daily posts dragging her through the mud after she rejected him. I don't think he ever posted on this site because that type stuff isn't tolerated here. He was eventually arrested & put away for a while on an unrelated matter. Out of respect, I won't mention her name & I don't think she dances anymore. It was talked about in the bars a lot but that was about 10 or more years ago if I recall.

That had nothing to do with the bars closing as it was so long ago. The shooting at J's is what lead to the dancer ban. That has been discussed at great length over the past couple years. If you'd like to read back on the topic, go back about 13 pages to Oct / Nov of 2020, starting around posts mid 950's.

The only bar in the Mannheim area with dancers is Carls (because it's in Stone Park not Melrose).The j's incident pulled the plug on that area completely. It was too much in the public eye. Not privy to the convo regarding this person, however "falling in love with a dancer" is the beginning of the end imo! Has anyone else seen "dumb and dumber". I have done and said some crazy things in my long life, however after dealing with the element in my professional life when I first got started in a related business, never made that mistake not even once! Thanks to all for at least picking up the thread. Been so dead around here. Stosh.

[Scott40]

I think you're speaking about that dude that went on any & every site possible to badmouth a certain dancer that turned him down. He had fallen in "love" & started stalking both in person as well as online. He was making daily posts dragging her through the mud after she rejected him. I don't think he ever posted on this site because that type stuff isn't tolerated here. He was eventually arrested & put away for a while on an unrelated matter. Out of respect, I won't mention her name & I don't think she dances anymore. It was talked about in the bars a lot but that was about 10 or more years ago if I recall.

That had nothing to do with the bars closing as it was so long ago. The shooting at J's is what lead to the dancer ban. That has been discussed at great length over the past couple years. If you'd like to read back on the topic, go back about 13 pages to Oct / Nov of 2020, starting around posts mid 950's.

The only bar in the Mannheim area with dancers is Carls (because it's in Stone Park not Melrose).I actually knew that dude and used to talk to him often at Carl's back around the 2005-2010 or so time period. He was a semi-regular there, we played pool often and he was actually fairly cool whenever I talked to him. The dancer he became obsessed with went by the name of Cindy but he was going through some serious family issues at the time and she seriously led him on to believe she was interested. He never, ever stalked her in person and only made a ton of posts online because he had a serious breakdown from all of the stress he was dealing with at the time. A lot of that was seriously blown out of proportion but I could see why with some of the posts that he made. He was locked up for a bit and learned from it. Last I heard about a year ago from a friend, he had been back in his right mind for several years and is working a regular job. He told me that Steve told him that he really regretted what he did saying he made a total fool of himself and is glad that a lot of the posts are gone now from the strip club site.

[Scott40]

I quit the Mannheim scene after the J's shooting and after Louie's stopped having dancers. Is Carl's actually the only bar left still open with dancers? Haven't been to Carl's in at least 5 years and I much preferred it when it was the old building. I heard that the rest of the bars are gone now.

[StanleyStankas]

I quit the Mannheim scene after the J's shooting and after Louie's stopped having dancers. Is Carl's actually the only bar left still open with dancers? Haven't been to Carl's in at least 5 years and I much preferred it when it was the old building. I heard that the rest of the bars are gone now.As far as that sort of scene goes. The actual strip clubs et al are all still there of course. J's tried a regular bar / restaurant and from what I saw it came and went quickly. What was the old playpen has been a mexican type place. The real issue with anyone opening up a quick in and out restaurant is that the street is very busy during the week and most all of that traffic is commercial. Now even if one had great food there is absolutely no where to pull of, grab a bite and get back on one's route with a truck of most sizes, let alone a big rig. Even that popular place at the north west corner of lake and heim I see big rigs straddle the middle lane, jump in for a bag and get back to their truck. Right now there is a lot of construction right there which makes it much worse. I understand uncle louie's is now also a restaurant or bar. So yea as reported here it's carls and from what I understand it's kind of gang banger ish so buyer beware. On another note bodies in egv at elmhurst and touhy is open and looks from the outside remodeled. Good luck and be safe all.

[Scott40]

As far as that sort of scene goes. The actual strip clubs et al are all still there of course. J's tried a regular bar / restaurant and from what I saw it came and went quickly. What was the old playpen has been a mexican type place. The real issue with anyone opening up a quick in and out restaurant is that the street is very busy during the week and most all of that traffic is commercial. Now even if one had great food there is absolutely no where to pull of, grab a bite and get back on one's route with a truck of most sizes, let alone a big rig. Even that popular place at the north west corner of lake and heim I see big rigs straddle the middle lane, jump in for a bag and get back to their truck. Right now there is a lot of construction right there which makes it much worse.Yeah, I had heard that the Mannheim scene is pretty much dead. The good old days seem long gone. Haven't been to Heavenly Bodies in at least 10 years since the hot Eastern Euro girls were there. Have you ever been to the 15th Ave bookstore in Melrose? It is very hit or miss (mostly miss) but I've had a couple of good experiences there before. Recently witnessed a semi-hot chick getting gangbanged there.

[StanleyStankas]

Yeah, I had heard that the Mannheim scene is pretty much dead. The good old days seem long gone. Haven't been to Heavenly Bodies in at least 10 years since the hot Eastern Euro girls were there. Have you ever been to the 15th Ave bookstore in Melrose? It is very hit or miss (mostly miss) but I've had a couple of good experiences there before. Recently witnessed a semi-hot chick getting gangbanged there.To either except I do know that bodies used to have an audition night and some of those girls used to take the blue line up to rosemont, jump on my big blue bus and off we would go to the corner of 72 and elmhurst. Met a few really good looking ladies. One in particular was from ireland. The other I think Polish, however she did not have the documents to remain in the country and was gone. Several african american girls as well. I did run into that irish girl again. From what I see on the outside they did clean things up though. As far as 15th it has been reported if you can follow I believe their twitter feed and get there immediately things can get interesting. Mostly what I have been told there are a lot of d**k smokers lurking around, inside and in the parking lot, however also straight horn dogs that get very aggressive when a woman comes in usually accompanied by a male escort that agrees to have her lady drilled by various strangers. So yea I think it is the luck of the draw, however I have also heard that the organized parties can be good for activity.

[Scott40]

To either except I do know that bodies used to have an audition night and some of those girls used to take the blue line up to Rosemont, jump on my big blue bus and off we would go to the corner of 72 and elmhurst. Met a few really good looking ladies. One in particular was from ireland. The other I think Polish, however she did not have the documents to remain in the country and was gone. Several african american girls as well. I did run into that irish girl again. From what I see on the outside they did clean things up though. As far as 15th it has been reported if you can follow I believe their twitter feed and get there immediately things can get interesting. Mostly what I have been told there are a lot of d**k smokers lurking around, inside and in the parking lot, however also straight horn dogs that get very aggressive when a woman comes in usually accompanied by a male escort that agrees to have her lady drilled by various strangers. So yea I think it is the luck of the draw, however I have also heard that the organized parties can be good for activity.I agree with you about a lot of the dudes at the bookstore, LOL. A lot of them act like virgins who have never seen a woman nude before. Saw a "handler" bring in his girl last week and she was swarmed immediately in the room with the table. There had to have been 20 guys around her and one even started eating her ass. LOL! Crazy but I still like going there on occasion because you never know who will show up. Saw an amateur porn star there one time. I had a tranny try to grab my dick one time while I was watching a gangbang and I said "no thanks" LOL.

[StanleyStankas]

I agree with you about a lot of the dudes at the bookstore, LOL. A lot of them act like virgins who have never seen a woman nude before. Saw a "handler" bring in his girl last week and she was swarmed immediately in the room with the table. There had to have been 20 guys around her and one even started eating her ass. LOL! Crazy but I still like going there on occasion because you never know who will show up. Saw an amateur porn star there one time. I had a tranny try to grab my dick one time while I was watching a gangbang and I said "no thanks" LOL.Yea I have been tempted and even drove down the street and turned around once I passed it once. Chickened out. Maybe I will show one day. The organized parties seem to be at least more tame at the start I would imagine. Yea though heard the same thing. Once a female comes in it's flies on s**t and guys are bumping into you with their dicks. Ahhh no thanks. You got to give it to the women that actually walk into the place though. Knowing full well it's infested with everything. Oh I also heard the place is not exactly the most sanitary either.

[Scott40]

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Thanks!

[Mayor Quimby]

I just received the word that the Village of Melrose has closed Bobby's down. I checked with a couple people I know & it is in fact true. I do not know the full story or if this is permanent. I do know that the order to close was due to violation of a city ordinance, apparently there is a sticker on the door stating so (if in the area I may check out what it says out of curiosity). I do know that a few of the former dancers would occasionally hang out doing shoulder rubs for cash. Maybe the village thought that fell within the dancer ban or its possible one of them went too far, these are just guesses though. It could also be a liquor / hours violation. Whatever it is, it will be interesting to see if they re-open.

[StanleyStankas]

I just received the word that the Village of Melrose has closed Bobby's down. I checked with a couple people I know & it is in fact true. I do not know the full story or if this is permanent. I do know that the order to close was due to violation of a city ordinance, apparently there is a sticker on the door stating so (if in the area I may check out what it says out of curiosity). I do know that a few of the former dancers would occasionally hang out doing shoulder rubs for cash. Maybe the village thought that fell within the dancer ban or its possible one of them went too far, these are just guesses though. It could also be a liquor / hours violation. Whatever it is, it will be interesting to see if they re-open.Heading down there until this Friday, mayor. If you beat me to it please report. If I don't see it from you I will cruise by and take a look at what is says. On another note that apartment complex that looks like a no tel from the past on the east side of heim say just south of that speedway (I believe or thorntons no the new place so speedway) had those orange signs on all the apartments over the weekend. Which must have meant the place was condemned. Then the next day they were gone so who knows WTF was happening there. Place is trashy with lots of abandoned cars and truck parking as it's south end view. The whole street has gone way downhill imo.

[Hockey Guy]

I went by there today. I big orange sign on the door stating the business has been closed by the Village of Melrose Park for the failure of an ordinance. However, the ordinance is not stated on the sign. I took a picture but will have to shrink it to be able to post it.

[StanleyStankas]

I went by there today. I big orange sign on the door stating the business has been closed by the Village of Melrose Park for the failure of an ordinance. However, the ordinance is not stated on the sign. I took a picture but will have to shrink it to be able to post it.Was going to do the same thing, however you had the idea as well. Would like to see that. Again if you see my recent post I commented about that sketchy apartment place further down south of speedway. They had those orange signs on all the apartment doors and I believe that is melrose as well. Could be wrong on that as it's like a jigsaw puzzle over there. Anyway possibly code was out and it was something small as unless there were complaints or there was a sting how would they know what was happening. Just sounds like something simple and they were not in compliance. Now that I think about it if mayor doesn't get over there prior to Friday morning I'll shoot in and see if the sign is still up. Thanks again.

[Hockey Guy]

Was going to do the same thing, however you had the idea as well. Would like to see that. Again if you see my recent post I commented about that sketchy apartment place further down south of speedway. They had those orange signs on all the apartment doors and I believe that is melrose as well. Could be wrong on that as it's like a jigsaw puzzle over there. Anyway possibly code was out and it was something small as unless there were complaints or there was a sting how would they know what was happening. Just sounds like something simple and they were not in compliance. Now that I think about it if mayor doesn't get over there prior to Friday morning I'll shoot in and see if the sign is still up. Thanks again.Ok, I shrunk it down here so it could post.

[StanleyStankas]

Ok, I shrunk it down here so it could post.What did they do? To me looks like they didn't pay something some sort of village bill, however who knows. Like I say if no one else does prior to Friday morning I'll shoot over and see if it is still on the window. Course those bright orange nasty gram signs all look the same so this looks like the same ones that were on all of those apartments in that little complex south of speedway. Course just guessing. Someone was served that shouldn't have been or? Time will tell. I doubt my guy at the flea heard anything. He might at least know if the village in general is cracking down on code violations. Again for that I might not even see this security guy until the weekend. Stosh stay safe all.

[StanleyStankas]

What did they do? To me looks like they didn't pay something some sort of village bill, however who knows. Like I say if no one else does prior to Friday morning I'll shoot over and see if it is still on the window. Course those bright orange nasty gram signs all look the same so this looks like the same ones that were on all of those apartments in that little complex south of speedway. Course just guessing. Someone was served that shouldn't have been or? Time will tell. I doubt my guy at the flea heard anything. He might at least know if the village in general is cracking down on code violations. Again for that I might not even see this security guy until the weekend. Stosh stay safe all.Long haired hippies need not apply! Not really, although it's still there. Saw the flea security guy who knows what's what in the village, however I forgot to ask him. I'll do that over the weekend and report in if he heard anything. With the thanksgiving weekend I doubt things would be cleared up this quickly anyway no matter what the violation might have been. All I know. Stosh. Stay safe fellas. Beautiful weather scheduled for this weekend.

[Hockey Guy]

Long haired hippies need not apply! Not really, although it's still there. Saw the flea security guy who knows what's what in the village, however I forgot to ask him. I'll do that over the weekend and report in if he heard anything. With the thanksgiving weekend I doubt things would be cleared up this quickly anyway no matter what the violation might have been. All I know. Stosh. Stay safe fellas. Beautiful weather scheduled for this weekend.Stosh you crack me up. Long haired hippies need not apply, so you tucked up your hair under your hat and went in to ask him why.

[StanleyStankas]

Stosh you crack me up. Long haired hippies need not apply, so you tucked up your hair under your hat and went in to ask him why.You know it!! I usually think of things as I am lying around thinking about things and the line actually goes "long haired hippie freaks need not apply". Also as crosby sang in a related tune- "I almost cut my hair". Yep today I should see that security guy that has been in melrose all his life so he usually knows if anything is boiling around the village. Things of this nature given it involves girls and booze with us dumb guys it's probably politically related.

[StanleyStankas]

You know it!! I usually think of things as I am lying around thinking about things and the line actually goes "long haired hippie freaks need not apply". Also as crosby sang in a related tune- "I almost cut my hair". Yep today I should see that security guy that has been in melrose all his life so he usually knows if anything is boiling around the village. Things of this nature given it involves girls and booze with us dumb guys it's probably politically related.The former j's which resurfaced as a restaurant for a quick minute is now up for sale with restaurant equipment as part of the deal. That is no surprise as even when the new place surfaced the lot was always empty when I passed by which was and is frequently. Now from what I see at a distance bobby's is back for at least all of their booze signs in the windows were lit up. Now on lake the former louie's is now that mentioned restaurant here and seems to be doing ok. The thing is with johnnies right there and the taco place right on the corner of heim and lake this new place should do well because there is a lot of walking traffic in and out of the flea as well as the trailer park. As far as our activity it looks like carl's is surviving.

[SouthSideRed]

The former j's which resurfaced as a restaurant for a quick minute is now up for sale with restaurant equipment as part of the deal. That is no surprise as even when the new place surfaced the lot was always empty when I passed by which was and is frequently. Now from what I see at a distance bobby's is back for at least all of their booze signs in the windows were lit up. Now on lake the former louie's is now that mentioned restaurant here and seems to be doing ok. The thing is with johnnies right there and the taco place right on the corner of heim and lake this new place should do well because there is a lot of walking traffic in and out of the flea as well as the trailer park. As far as our activity it looks like carl's is surviving.Thanks for the updates. Any idea on the hours of the old Louie's and word on the general atmosphere of the bar?

[StanleyStankas]

Thanks for the updates. Any idea on the hours of the old Louie's and word on the general atmosphere of the bar?However I will make it over there and snap a pic of the front next week with the cold snap the fleas have been dead looks like just a regular Mexican food place now some of the local pros like Mayor Or Ump usually will chime In about who in the Past might be Working there.

[NeedItOnDemand]

Stopped in at Carls. $5 cover on Monday evening. A few girls working. Most were just sitting with other guys or with other girls. Had a dance with one girl who had so much perfume on. Came home and my girlfriend wondering why I smell like a girl. I still smell it on me after a hot shower. Wow.

[StanleyStankas]

Stopped in at Carls. $5 cover on Monday evening. A few girls working. Most were just sitting with other guys or with other girls. Had a dance with one girl who had so much perfume on. Came home and my girlfriend wondering why I smell like a girl. I still smell it on me after a hot shower. Wow.Some women have no idea how to use perfume! For me I couldn't tell a bottle that costs 1 k or one bought in a dollar store! For me it doesn't matter, however if one douses oneself like they took a bath in it I can barely breath. It's on your clothes and everywhere she touched you or you touched her. Thanks anyway for the report. It's kind of what I have heard in that it is very clicky and unless they know who you are it's like their own little social club. Which for me sucks and is a bad business model. When new people come in they want to feel welcome. I also heard it's kind of gangy in there as well. For me just be cool and stop over in my direction to see if I am comfortable. I don't like the vulture approach nor feeling like I am cellophane. I am old and have spendable mad money, however just make me feel comfortable prior to me spending.

[NeedItOnDemand]

Some women have no idea how to use perfume! For me I couldn't tell a bottle that costs 1 k or one bought in a dollar store! For me it doesn't matter, however if one douses oneself like they took a bath in it I can barely breath. It's on your clothes and everywhere she touched you or you touched her. Thanks anyway for the report. It's kind of what I have heard in that it is very clicky and unless they know who you are it's like their own little social club. Which for me sucks and is a bad business model. When new people come in they want to feel welcome. I also heard it's kind of gangy in there as well. For me just be cool and stop over in my direction to see if I am comfortable. I don't like the vulture approach nor feeling like I am cellophane. I am old and have spendable mad money, however just make me feel comfortable prior to me spending.I agree with you 100%. Have you been to Jaco, Costa Rica? Spendable money goes a long way there and the women are very kind.

[StanleyStankas]

I agree with you 100%. Have you been to Jaco, Costa Rica? Spendable money goes a long way there and the women are very kind.Have heard about this in that when I owned down in west loop there was a young man (very wealthy from family money) that was encouraging me to do the same. He would take these extended trips and was schooling me on the do's and don'ts of that game. He did bring up this brazilian young lady and I happened to just catch them in our parking garage. No doubt she was a smoke show! From what he told me american older men with spendable cash walk on water in some of these countries. I haven't a clue of course as I haven't even been out of the state in awhile! Never been out of the country. Out of my head? Oh yes. However never out of the USA. He told some interesting tricks these women play once you are there and then back home and the pitfalls of that scene. This kid had to be in his early 30's then as I was in my early 60's at the time. I guess the key is that once you are back in the USA don't send them any money because they will come up with every reason under the earth like their father just died again. Thanks again for chiming in. Stosh.

[Mayor Quimby]

However I will make it over there and snap a pic of the front next week with the cold snap the fleas have been dead looks like just a regular Mexican food place now some of the local pros like Mayor Or Ump usually will chime In about who in the Past might be Working there.So I had some time a couple weeks ago & stopped in the new place, now called Medusas. Not much has changed as far as the interior goes. Basically like Louie's without the dancers. It does seem to be primarily a Latin crowd, mostly Mexican music coming from the Jukebox. I did recognize the bartender as one that use to work at Bobbys although I do recall her name. I think it's just turning into a neighborhood bar at this point.

[StanleyStankas]

So I had some time a couple weeks ago & stopped in the new place, now called Medusas. Not much has changed as far as the interior goes. Basically like Louie's without the dancers. It does seem to be primarily a Latin crowd, mostly Mexican music coming from the Jukebox. I did recognize the bartender as one that use to work at Bobbys although I do recall her name. I think it's just turning into a neighborhood bar at this point.Same feel I get. I did go by leaving the flea last week and they had not opened up yet. With the trailer park behind as well as the truck traffic on lake to me just looked like another place that has taken the place of the former dancer places. It's over, we all knew it and the j's murder killed it no pun intended. The over seer guy I know at the flea who has lived in melrose all his life told me the hot places are that mansion place right there. They must have a 4 o clock license because he comes in at 5 and when he passes he sees the valet still lining up cars. These are coke places. We all know that. They might be scooting around the law if there is a membership or something. I would think from a far it's a dance club for let's say for young guys and women that are let's say not from this country. And like those little goofy cars that have those coffee can mufflers and are generally lowered. I am so open to someone chiming in and finding a nice place for us old guys to hang and bs of course spend money. Nothing has to really happen. Nothing for me did at alot these places up 41 or over the cheddar curtain. Just fun is all. Sure blue balled, however when have I not been? Stosh.

[InstantMagic]

Same feel I get. I did go by leaving the flea last week and they had not opened up yet. With the trailer park behind as well as the truck traffic on lake to me just looked like another place that has taken the place of the former dancer places. It's over, we all knew it and the j's murder killed it no pun intended. The over seer guy I know at the flea who has lived in melrose all his life told me the hot places are that mansion place right there. They must have a 4 o clock license because he comes in at 5 and when he passes he sees the valet still lining up cars. These are coke places. We all know that. They might be scooting around the law if there is a membership or something. I would think from a far it's a dance club for let's say for young guys and women that are let's say not from this country. And like those little goofy cars that have those coffee can mufflers and are generally lowered. I am so open to someone chiming in and finding a nice place for us old guys to hang and bs of course spend money. Nothing has to really happen.

I love the convo here because J's, Playpen, and then Chances Are were our stomping ground for years. And in that order. There were probably occasions were several of us here were up there at the same time and don't know it. I knew a girl who lived in that trailer park you mentioned too. Met her at the Playpen although she wasn't a dancer. Gorgeous though. Had her at my place a few times, but she wanted to be wined and dined. She was going through a divorce along with the emotional period of grasping at straws that comes with it.

A bit below you mentioned that J's became a restaurant that then went under. Here's the thing. There is no amount of new business that can fix that area. It would need to be nuked and paved and grown from the get-go according to some city-plan that a place like that isn't remotely equipped with the talent to do. They'd honestly be better off from a public perspective leaving it for the nightlife as it was. The city probably made more money.

But I miss those "Mannheim Nights" as we used to call them. I could rattle off the names of the girls and the crowd we routinely hung with, which was as equally positive as the negatives of that area was for the phony tough-guys around there who always though my buddy and I were cops. LOL! Good times in that cesspool. Crazy that I miss 'them.

[StanleyStankas]

I love the convo here because J's, Playpen, and then Chances Are were our stomping ground for years. And in that order. There were probably occasions were several of us here were up there at the same time and don't know it. I knew a girl who lived in that trailer park you mentioned too. Met her at the Playpen although she wasn't a dancer. Gorgeous though. Had her at my place a few times, but she wanted to be wined and dined. She was going through a divorce along with the emotional period of grasping at straws that comes with it.

A bit below you mentioned that J's became a restaurant that then went under. Here's the thing. There is no amount of new business that can fix that area. It would need to be nuked and paved and grown from the get-go according to some city-plan that a place like that isn't remotely equipped with the talent to do. They'd honestly be better off from a public perspective leaving it for the nightlife as it was. The city probably made more money.

But I miss those "Mannheim Nights" as we used to call them. I could rattle off the names of the girls and the crowd we routinely hung with, which was as equally positive as the negatives of that area was for the phony tough-guys around there who always though my buddy and I were cops. LOL! Good times in that cesspool. Crazy that I miss 'them.Totally agree in that the day life on the street is really just a commercial pass through for cdl's from the eisenhower, 294, et al up to the airport. I mean yea gas stations will always do well. However, even right there on the north east corner of heim and lake there is nothing really new even though they put a nice little strip center. So the tappers come in and lose and leave if you can find the entrance and exit to their little parking lot. The guy I bs with at the flea that I have mentioned I made a comment about that even though that is technically melrose there they put all the low end stuff down there. The trailer park, bone yard, flea, garbage truck garage and dump (during the summer when the wind is blowing down to us that smell reeks way too ripe), the railroad yard, the truck parking. He told me that melrose fuzz doesn't even like to come down over by us and said sometimes unless it's a big problem they show up in 30 minutes. He said he tells people look if you have a little fender bender just go into the cop shop and deal with it there. I think you mentioned that hottie from the trailers. Or it might have been someone else. I don't want to get into it, however some of those young flea girls (all of legal age of course!) That work at the flea for their family are looking very well! All imo old man stosh. P.S. Agree with everything you said! As well as I miss those clubs I used to fall into on 41 near the border. Sleeze personified. Sometimes I like the suites and sometimes I like the streets! Still do! That is why the flea is fun. Full of characters!! It's like a bar only during daylight hours!

[InstantMagic]

Totally agree in that the day life on the street is really just a commercial pass through for cdl's from the eisenhower, 294, et al up to the airport. I mean yea gas stations will always do well. However, even right there on the north east corner of heim and lake there is nothing really new even though they put a nice little strip center. So the tappers come in and lose and leave if you can find the entrance and exit to their little parking lot. The guy I bs with at the flea that I have mentioned I made a comment about that even though that is technically melrose there they put all the low end stuff down there. The trailer park, bone yard, flea, garbage truck garage and dump (during the summer when the wind is blowing down to us that smell reeks way too ripe), the railroad yard, the truck parking. He told me that melrose fuzz doesn't even like to come down over by us and said sometimes unless it's a big problem they show up in 30 minutes. He said he tells people look if you have a little fender bender just go into the cop shop and deal with it there. I think you mentioned that hottie from the trailers. Or it might have been someone else. I don't want to get into it, however some of those young flea girls (all of legal age of course!) That work at the flea for their family are looking very well! All imo old man stosh. P.S. Agree with everything you said! As well as I miss those clubs I used to fall into on 41 near the border. Sleeze personified. Sometimes I like the suites and sometimes I like the streets! Still do! That is why the flea is fun. Full of characters!! It's like a bar only during daylight hours!

Appreciate the reply and your experiences there as well. I was having a PM convo with another member about Mannheim today as well. I'm pretty sure when you mention the "flea" you are talking about that packed flea market basically across from the trailer park on Lake. If you are referring to that flea market can you confirm that there is any action to be had there? I never imagined it, but I understand your point about flea market girls, but I wouldn't know how to conduct myself there at this point to get anything done. I haven't been into that particular flea market in probably 20 years now. There used to be another one down Mannheim as well in the strip mall but I think it's been gone for years.

If you have anything you can add for me about that please feel free to PM me. Thanks again, and it's nice talking with you about those times, brother.

[Tony Sop2]

Anyone have any otc with, I believe her name is Diana? She is a Columbian with a beautiful ass, small waist and nice sized tits. Sometimes she wears jewels on her eyelids.

[SouthSideRed]

Had to make a airport run over the weekend and figured I would take a peek and see what was going on at Bobby's. The orange sticker is still on the front door and the bar still is closed. But interesting note, the sticker said that no one is allowed in until January 23 (I forgot what time the note said). Good news?

[StanleyStankas]

Had to make a airport run over the weekend and figured I would take a peek and see what was going on at Bobby's. The orange sticker is still on the front door and the bar still is closed. But interesting note, the sticker said that no one is allowed in until January 23 (I forgot what time the note said). Good news?If I recall and one of the members here did take a pic of it in the thread, however I can confirm there was no date on the line whatsoever. So, it appears whatever the issue was is solved and the village came over to write that. Now someone at random could have come along and wrote that date in. If all else fails I will shoot over there this Friday and take a look see to see if it looks random or in the same style and marker as the village. I think there was some actually hand writing with a marker on the sign. Could be way off and I will try to find the post now. Stosh.

[StanleyStankas]

Ok, I shrunk it down here so it could post.As I mentioned there was sharpie writing on the sign which was taken by mr. Hockey guy. If no one else chimes in I will do a quick drive over on Friday to see if that January date looks like the same writing, style and sharpie. Someone in the field with the village would be using the same sharpies and keeping them in their vehicle I would believe just out of habit. If it looks random it may be a phony. More soon. Thanks to all for the recon. Stosh.

[Mayor Quimby]

As I mentioned there was sharpie writing on the sign which was taken by mr. Hockey guy. If no one else chimes in I will do a quick drive over on Friday to see if that January date looks like the same writing, style and sharpie. Someone in the field with the village would be using the same sharpies and keeping them in their vehicle I would believe just out of habit. If it looks random it may be a phony. More soon. Thanks to all for the recon. Stosh.

Over the past couple months I've tried getting the whole story but this is what I've been able to find out. Apparently back in November, the locals decided to do a surprise visit to Bobbys. They didn't like whatever they saw when they walked in. At that point, they issued the shut down. Now I do not know exactly what was going on that violated whatever ordinance they cited, but the closure was definitely do to a police visit & not as simple as a building code issue etc. I do know that a few of the former dancers had been hanging out giving the shoulder massages at the bar. Whether or not that had something to do with the bust, I do not know. It also could have been a violation of operating hours or something else alcohol related. I do know that the city pretty much has adopted a no tolerance policy when it comes to these bars having any sort of the entertainment we're use to.

As far as Bobbys re-opening, I do not have any info. As far as the question Posted about opening being "good news", that depends on what type of good news you're hoping for. I doubt the owner would risk completely losing their liquor license as the dancer ban seems to be a permanent thing.

[InstantMagic]

That's amazing. That whole area. All of it, Melrose, Stone Park, etc. Is such a F'and cesspool of personality that I can't even imagine what the various municipalities really think they are doing with the dancer bans. I mean what do they think is going to happen on Mannheim? That good people who speak articulate and proper English are going to show up there to establish consulting businesses and Von Mar shopping?

As we established earlier, the road itself is a hinterland thorofare. If the good and kind residents really cared about where they were at, the whole area wouldn't have embraced the look and style that it has come to be known for.

I'm not saying that all of Mannheim should be allowed to just sell on the streets, but let's face it. The municipal gove there allowed by-the-hour hotels and 4 am Bar-paradise to be built in the first place. They are just going to drive everything deeper underground and with less transparency with these moves we are discussing here with places like Carl's.

[Al Melrose]

The bars is Stone Park use to close at 6 am and some opened up at 7 am. I remember, in the early 80's being in a place that just let you keep drinking between 6 and 7, use just couldn't buy a drink, so you stocked up before 6. Memory fading, I think it was called Obbies. There were a couple bars on the frontage road south of North Ave. Those eventually closed and Stay Out became the late night / early morning hangout.

[StanleyStankas]

The bars is Stone Park use to close at 6 am and some opened up at 7 am. I remember, in the early 80's being in a place that just let you keep drinking between 6 and 7, use just couldn't buy a drink, so you stocked up before 6. Memory fading, I think it was called Obbies. There were a couple bars on the frontage road south of North Ave. Those eventually closed and Stay Out became the late night / early morning hangout.On south harlem off say 55 ish if I recall there used to be what I would refer to as s*it kickin bars. Country places with live music. That would let out at 6 am as well and then just go at it again. Agree with the way this convo has been going in that they are banning dancers, however the 4 hour places and several stop and flops are still lining the strip. As far as bobby's I would believe that if the local fuzz came in and a girl was giving a guy a back massage it would be construed as a no no in their eyes and a reason to shut things down. To me looks like someone had a ha*d on for someone and p*ssed someone off. I mean a random walk in? They know what is going down in those places. They knew what was happening at j's imo. The murder in front of the place brought the heat down and then they had to kick up some dust to justifiy their positions with the villages. Just is. It is really bad! Everything from pot to gambling is legal, however let's not allow our activity to be. Oldman stosh all I know fellas and thanks for all of these posts. I miss our little threads here in melrose.

[Unclehomer]

Drove by there on the way home from work. The place is gone. The sign above on the fascade is gone, the inside looks like its been emptied out.

[Hockey Guy]

Drove by there on the way home from work. The place is gone. The sign above on the fascade is gone, the inside looks like its been emptied out.I did not know the sign was gone. I went by a week ago or so and people were coming out of there with bar chairs in hand. I figured something was up.

[StanleyStankas]

I did not know the sign was gone. I went by a week ago or so and people were coming out of there with bar chairs in hand. I figured something was up.And thanks for these reports, fellas. I have not been into the lot even though I go by there back and forth at least three times per week. So that sign that had that date written was a prank or something unknown I will believe. I don't know what they are going to put in there because the place is hidden in that corner and also I believe there is a place a few doors down on that corner that already has the tappers. So what would be the incentive to put another slot place? Not much is going to work there just like the people that bought the former j's were completely clueless as to the local terrain imo. Well I will now on occasion go into the lot to see if anything happens. Thanks again, all. Stosh.

[SGlider]

The bars is Stone Park use to close at 6 am and some opened up at 7 am. I remember, in the early 80's being in a place that just let you keep drinking between 6 and 7, use just couldn't buy a drink, so you stocked up before 6. Memory fading, I think it was called Obbies. There were a couple bars on the frontage road south of North Ave. Those eventually closed and Stay Out became the late night / early morning hangout.I remember going to two places called Mardi Gras and Tommy Guns on Mannheim Road. No windows and the birds would be chirping and sun coming up by the time you got out of there.

[SouthSideRed]

I did not know the sign was gone. I went by a week ago or so and people were coming out of there with bar chairs in hand. I figured something was up.Let's think positive, maybe Nikki is moving the bar to a new location? Isn't this the third location, so it must not be hard to move to a new location.

[StanleyStankas]

I remember going to two places called Mardi Gras and Tommy Guns on Mannheim Road. No windows and the birds would be chirping and sun coming up by the time you got out of there.Glad you brought this one place up. One of the guys I do business with was a dj at mardi gras. Where was this place? I am thinking from what he describes it's the empty space right south of the adult kiss bookstore on the east side or was it the place across the street that is currently another mexican restaurant. He doesn't remember. Incidentally for all looking on I am trying to find out where a place was called "putin on the ritz" west of highland blvd 1 mile on butterfield road which I think is still oak brook. This would be back in the 80's. Just trying to help someone out that has a you tube channel. Thanks all stosh.

[Al Melrose]

Let's think positive, maybe Nikki is moving the bar to a new location? Isn't this the third location, so it must not be hard to move to a new location.Dances much better in the pool room at the original Bobbies. Slipped the guy in twice. But the stench from the bad plumbing was not pleasant.

[Bozack]

Q: What's the difference between a crack w**re and the bathroom at (the old) Bobby's?

A: You can shit on a crack ***** in an emergency.


Dances much better in the pool room at the original Bobbies. Slipped the guy in twice. But the stench from the bad plumbing was not pleasant.

[Illini333]

Glad you brought this one place up. One of the guys I do business with was a dj at mardi gras. Where was this place? I am thinking from what he describes it's the empty space right south of the adult kiss bookstore on the east side or was it the place across the street that is currently another mexican restaurant. He doesn't remember. Incidentally for all looking on I am trying to find out where a place was called "putin on the ritz" west of highland blvd 1 mile on butterfield road which I think is still oak brook. This would be back in the 80's. Just trying to help someone out that has a you tube channel. Thanks all stosh.Mardi Gras is where the Mexican club is now. It's across from the police station. They demolished Mardi Gras and built the Mexican place. I think it's called Fiesta. They have girls in there where you buy them drinks and they sit and talk to you. Last time I was there they had Colombian girls.

[StanleyStankas]

Mardi Gras is where the Mexican club is now. It's across from the police station. They demolished Mardi Gras and built the Mexican place. I think it's called Fiesta. They have girls in there where you buy them drinks and they sit and talk to you. Last time I was there they had Colombian girls.Yea I thought it might have been there. Stosh.

[StanCopier]

This was the exact type of day I usually found myself at J's, Bobby's and Louie's. Rarely ever left unhappy.

There must be someplace to go!

[StanleyStankas]

This was the exact type of day I usually found myself at J's, Bobby's and Louie's. Rarely ever left unhappy.

There must be someplace to go!You find a place around here please reach out. I hope a place does come to be somehow and somewhere. There are others on this forum like ump and mayor that also have good intel on our local scene. I mean even if something safe is created similar to a moving gambling place I am ok with it as long as I know in advance what is happening. It's doubtful with the various scenes that have gone down on the strip that a public place with what we like to indulge in is going to open. Stosh.

[Northside]

It's just this kind of rainy afternoon that the older "Tiffany" could, without preamble bring a smile to my face as fast as if J's had a drive through. It's too bad those days are over.

[Pedorro]

Going to be in the area next Sunday night. How's the action there on Sunday? How much are the dances these days?

[Mayor Quimby]

Going to be in the area next Sunday night. How's the action there on Sunday? How much are the dances these days?About a week ago, I was in the area for the first time in several months & decided to stop in Carls. It was a Tue mid afternoon, there were about 10 dancers. Carls has never been my type of place. It's just a lingerie bar like the other places were, but they're trying to make the place seem more like one of the more upscale "gentlemens clubs" but without the stage / stages. Do not expect any of the fun that use to be had at J's or Louies. You can get a shoulder massage from some of the girls & the dances are fair. Some girls will give a good grind & allow some roaming, but the more "personal" touching isn't likely. Most seemed to be willing to do 20 per song, but some want more than that, up to 40.

Now the thing I just can't deal with is almost all of the girls that were there have had the booty enhancement. & I'm not talking in a little added. I'm talking like an f'n basketball is stuffed up their miniskirts. It's so odd to see these petite, slim dancers with butts that stick out like a womans belly that's 9 months pregnant with triplets. I just can't enjoy that, but that seems to be the trend at Carls (at least the day I was there). I would say it was like that with 7 or 8 out of the 10 dancers that were there.

That's all I got!

[Mannheim]

Anyone scoring in Maywood or near Heim lately?

I moved up near Milwaukee and haven't been down in while. I can remember reading this thread about reports that the area was dead but then I would still find one off Lake, Madison, or Heim.

[BackOrIfi]

About a week ago, I was in the area for the first time in several months & decided to stop in Carls. It was a Tue mid afternoon, there were about 10 dancers. Carls has never been my type of place. It's just a lingerie bar like the other places were, but they're trying to make the place seem more like one of the more upscale "gentlemens clubs" but without the stage / stages. Do not expect any of the fun that use to be had at J's or Louies. You can get a shoulder massage from some of the girls & the dances are fair. Some girls will give a good grind & allow some roaming, but the more "personal" touching isn't likely. Most seemed to be willing to do 20 per song, but some want more than that, up to 40.

Now the thing I just can't deal with is almost all of the girls that were there have had the booty enhancement. & I'm not talking in a little added. I'm talking like an f'n basketball is stuffed up their miniskirts. It's so odd to see these petite, slim dancers with butts that stick out like a womans belly that's 9 months pregnant with triplets. I just can't enjoy that, but that seems to be the trend at Carls (at least the day I was there). I would say it was like that with 7 or 8 out of the 10 dancers that were there.

That's all I got!I remember the good ol' days when it used to be $5 per song.

[FitnessBuff200]

Some women have no idea how to use perfume! For me I couldn't tell a bottle that costs 1 k or one bought in a dollar store! For me it doesn't matter, however if one douses oneself like they took a bath in it I can barely breath. It's on your clothes and everywhere she touched you or you touched her. Thanks anyway for the report. It's kind of what I have heard in that it is very clicky and unless they know who you are it's like their own little social club. Which for me sucks and is a bad business model. When new people come in they want to feel welcome. I also heard it's kind of gangy in there as well. For me just be cool and stop over in my direction to see if I am comfortable. I don't like the vulture approach nor feeling like I am cellophane. I am old and have spendable mad money, however just make me feel comfortable prior to me spending.I think a big issue is a lot of them don't speak English well so if you don't look Hispanic, they approach less. When I was there I was approached by an older lady but the dance was mid. Everyone else I had to flag over. And I'm one willing to use my elementary level Spanish. But yea, very unwelcoming. It baffles me that they rather sit around not doing anything than make some money. The migrant beggars have more initiative than them. Makes me not even want to get to know the people that work there.