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Uki Eater
04-04-10, 19:34
Thread StarterYujin, not giving me my change when I gave her $ to get her a drink. Man. I should have known she would do that.

John Ross
04-05-10, 04:00
Yujin, not giving me my change when I gave her $ to get her a drink. Man. I should have known she would do that.
You should have asked her for your change.

Warrior12
04-05-10, 04:09
Yujin, not giving me my change when I gave her $ to get her a drink. Man. I should have known she would do that.Next time you see her tell her to bring a bottle and refuse to pay for it or just leave. I wouldn't let her get away with it.

Kpounda
04-05-10, 05:11
Yujin, not giving me my change when I gave her $ to get her a drink. Man. I should have known she would do that.
Whoa Braddah! I would go OFF! So you let her get away with that?

Uki Eater
04-05-10, 06:15
Yeah, I never bothered to ask her when she got her drink. Ok ok, I admit I got weak when she was rubbing my d*ck under the table. I guess I never cared hehe. That was a while ago. I think that night we was celebrating my friends bday and went clubbing after Camelot. We just happen to start off the night at Camelot.

Heh, I remember my other friend who was tipping a stripper at FN. He had a $ on him and he didn't realize that the $ was mixed with his dollar bills. He ended up tipping her the $. LoL

Warrior12
04-05-10, 14:18
Yeah, I never bothered to ask her when she got her drink. Ok ok, I admit I got weak when she was rubbing my d*ck under the table. I guess I never cared hehe. That was a while ago. I think that night we was celebrating my friends bday and went clubbing after Camelot. We just happen to start off the night at Camelot.

Heh, I remember my other friend who was tipping a stripper at FN. He had a $ on him and he didn't realize that the $ was mixed with his dollar bills. He ended up tipping her the $. LoLIsn't Yujin now at Chrsytal Palace? At least you got a little more for your money from that wench. I don't bother wasting any more funds on her now, but I know where you are coming from.

Twitch26
04-06-10, 00:17
Yujin, not giving me my change when I gave her $ to get her a drink. Man. I should have known she would do that.Man, is this the Yujin big boob use to also work at new casino a while back. I bought champagne and she spilled half the bottle out trying to pour it. I know that trick, just to make time go by faster, so I took the bottle and started pouring it myself. She was pretty much in shock that I did that, but hey if I'm gonna pay that much then I want my moneys worth of fun.

H Mobius
04-06-10, 02:06
You should have asked her for your change.

Yeah. Oh man. I responded to a post in the kb thread and commented about not paying with an amount that would require change; it was a precaution I threw-in but here it actually happened.

Uki Eater
04-06-10, 22:56
Yeah, it happened to me. Oh wells.... Lesson learned. I never give an amount that required change. It's just that at that time, I only had a $ bill on me. I remember before that bar next to DAmour on the first level. I forgot what it was called back then. But, we sat with these 2 girls and they mention getting them a special drink for .40. What special drink? What makes it special? No way, gonna pay .40 for 1 drink.

H Mobius
04-07-10, 06:23
Yeah, it happened to me. Oh wells.... Lesson learned. I never give an amount that required change. It's just that at that time, I only had a $ bill on me. I remember before that bar next to DAmour on the first level. I forgot what it was called back then. But, we sat with these 2 girls and they mention getting them a special drink for .40. What special drink? What makes it special? No way, gonna pay .40 for 1 drink.

It's only special if they take you to the side tables (Kapiolani side) and buss out their goodies, but usually they just tease and ROB. I stopped going long time ago but YMMV.

Member #4163
04-07-10, 23:27
Yeah, it happened to me. Oh wells.... Lesson learned. I never give an amount that required change. It's just that at that time, I only had a $ bill on me. I remember before that bar next to DAmour on the first level. I forgot what it was called back then. But, we sat with these 2 girls and they mention getting them a special drink for .40. What special drink? What makes it special? No way, gonna pay .40 for 1 drink.Maui Kbars only do. 40 drinks these days. They're nothing special or different just the hostesses trying to get more for the same services or less in some cases. Lets just hope that doesn't extend here. I don't think they will considering we have a lot more selection to choose from and not to mention strip bars.

Warrior12
04-08-10, 02:34
Maui Kbars only do. 40 drinks these days. They're nothing special or different just the hostesses trying to get more for the same services or less in some cases. Lets just hope that doesn't extend here. I don't think they will considering we have a lot more selection to choose from and not to mention strip bars.The Maui KBs the girls will drink a bottle of beer for $40. The only time I would even bother with that is at 7 Pools when they had bikini night. They use to have some real lookers there.

Member 69
04-10-10, 03:42
Maui Kbars only do. 40 drinks these days. They're nothing special or different just the hostesses trying to get more for the same services or less in some cases. Lets just hope that doesn't extend here. I don't think they will considering we have a lot more selection to choose from and not to mention strip bars.Actually if you push the issue (by telling the girl to forget it and not buy the girl a drink) the girl will take $20 but the girl will tell you that the full sized beer bottles are $40. Many of the girls will walk away but some will go for the $20 drinks, but then she will drink it down fast so it might be best to pay $40 for the drink.

But that is why so many of my friends come to Honolulu for some action. Maui not really worth it if you want to play or have a nice time at kb's.

Member 69
04-10-10, 04:16
At Club Butterfly, beware of nicole. She will get a drink from you and put the drink down and go back to her regular customer. Total ROB. If you don't know her and she doesn't know you then watch out, don't spend a dime on this b*tch. She seems to have a loyal customer base as she always seems to be busy. I don't know why, she doesn't look that hot, not a great body and doesn't seem to put out, guess there are suckers born every minute that would be willing to sit with this b*tch and just buy her drinks.

Also watch out for Sue at butterfly. She is a fast drinker. You get some play but for the action you get and price you pay you're better off at an AMP.

As for yujin, don't go to the room with her, she gives hints of a lot of action to get you to go to the room but doesn't put out, total waste of money. Get your fun with her outside but don't fall for her scam. As with sue maybe better to go to an AMP if you want real action instead of some gropes.

Member #4374
05-02-10, 14:19
At Club Butterfly, beware of nicole. She will get a drink from you and put the drink down and go back to her regular customer. Total ROB. If you don't know her and she doesn't know you then watch out, don't spend a dime on this b*tch.
Is this the infamous Nicole from Cheers?
Isn't Nicole, one of the sisters from D'Amour working there also? The one with the bad boob job and needs to get her headlamps adjusted? The left one pointing up, the right pointing down or was it the other way around.

Aflack
05-02-10, 16:38
Boycott the ROB KBGs; no buy nekohana, especially at Buttfly.

Let TShit and her arrogance go to ****.

Warriors808
05-02-10, 18:49
Is this the infamous Nicole from Cheers?
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Yup, the one and only. Total ROB.

Twitch26
05-02-10, 20:10
Is this the infamous Nicole from Cheers?

Isn't Nicole, one of the sisters from D'Amour working there also? The one with the bad boob job and needs to get her headlamps adjusted? The left one pointing up, the right pointing down or was it the other way around.Thats some funny stuff there HC! Now you got me wanting to go check out those busted up headlamps.

Good stuff!

Member 69
05-03-10, 01:55
Is this the infamous Nicole from Cheers?

Isn't Nicole, one of the sisters from D'Amour working there also? The one with the bad boob job and needs to get her headlamps adjusted? The left one pointing up, the right pointing down or was it the other way around.Yes, this Nicole worked at Cheers Station. She isn't anything special, thin, long hair, kind of pocked marked face from zits when she was young. Small boobs.

Not sure about the d'amour nicole.

Werd0001
07-31-10, 02:46
Crowd been getting rowdy lots of young want to be gangsters fights over the girls there. All of them have BF.

CheapCharlie
07-31-10, 05:38
Crowd been getting rowdy lots of young want to be gangsters fights over the girls there. All of them have BF.
Sounds like the majority of the clubs and the punks that hang out in them.

Shoesession
07-31-10, 22:29
Newbie wondering why my posts aren't working.

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Hi,

I understand that you were just testing your posting capabilities.

However, the forum has a thread specifically set up for this purpose in the Site Administration - Test Messages section.

Anyway, it would be cool if you would use the "Report this post to a Moderator" link in the lower left corner of your test message to send me a reminder that I can delete this test report.

Thank You!

Jackson

Puinsai808
08-02-10, 03:28
Watch out for Brenda in DT.

You can search the Downtown Thread for photos.

Headrest
12-23-10, 18:03
Watch out for Brenda in DT.Not as bad as the blond with the star tattoos.

Ck813
12-25-10, 04:39
She is a rob or does she do it just to me?

Uki Eater
12-26-10, 04:13
She is a rob or does she do it just to me?Not just you. She's a fast drinker.

Stoner1
12-31-10, 09:27
She is a rob or does she do it just to me?She likes to go 'snowboarding'. Will probably much easier to get what you want if you take her 'snowboarding'. Just remember 'snowboarding'

Woody56
12-31-10, 20:34
Watch out for Brenda in DT.

You can search the Downtown Thread for photos. I've had good and not so good service from Brenda over the years but never a straight out ROB. It could be because I have known her since about 1998 when she was a waitress at Nancy's Kitchen in Waipio Gentry and I use to go in there almost every morning for breakfast (mainly 2 or 3 double screwdrivers) before work. She was a completely different person back in those days. Of course YMMV.

Blake123
01-01-11, 05:26
talk about being robbed.

Stay out of best thai-cc-3904.

I think these gals were pick pockets in Thailand.

If I go back I will stuff my money up my ass but they may find it there.

Street smart-people. Which MT are you talking about?

Bobby Gunn
01-01-11, 16:21
Which MT are you talking about?He refers to Best Thai.

Vannessang
01-25-11, 23:08
I'm not even married, for those who don't know.

But I got thinking, due to various other threads on here.

A sexless marriage is those who have sex less than 10 times a year.

But it also takes into account that some couples who don't have high drives are more than content with a "sexless" marriage, and it isn't really sexless, because they don't have a problem with it.

3 main reasons for sexless marriage are loss of communication, repeated rejection and neglect.

I couldn't imagine myself ever being in a sexless marriage, but then again I could- I can be spiteful when I get mad and I could see myself not giving sex if I were upset with them, hopefully I won't be upset for months!

What I don't understand. Is that if you loved someone you would sacrifice on occasion, to give them a sexual experience with you involved, even if it is just holding them while they touch themselves. And you wouldn't have to do it daily.

The average I've seemed to pick up is about 2 times a week, for your average married / defacto couple to have sex. So, if not even once a month you would include yourself in that, or even once a fortnight. I understand sometimes women, and maybe men, get into moods where sex is absolutely out of the question (to a point where they ragingly loathe it and everything to do with it- I get it). But I still think, once a month, there would be a day that they wouldn't mind at least helping out being present with their partner, for their sake! I'm sure most people are just out of the mood, and if loathing sex is involved it is usually because there's something wrong in the relationship. If it is withheld so much and to such a degree, it seems that it's not just a "sex" thing, unless they are selfish. Then it could be.

I'm sorry if I offend, I just don't like the idea of getting married and then having a sexless marriage. So I guess I'm doing my "pre-search"

Am I wrong? I'm not saying I'm right, so please share your experience with this.

Newtohawaii
01-26-11, 02:10
Gents,

Just read on another site that this particular "provider" is a TOTAL ROB.

Ttp:/honolulu. Backpage. Com / FemaleEscorts / hey-guys-I-know-you-missed-me-call-its-tara-20/2488707.

Happy Hunting

Dj Platinum
02-07-11, 03:17
I'm not even married, for those who don't know.

But I got thinking, due to various other threads on here.

A sexless marriage is those who have sex less than 10 times a year.

But it also takes into account that some couples who don't have high drives are more than content with a "sexless" marriage, and it isn't really sexless, because they don't have a problem with it.

3 main reasons for sexless marriage are loss of communication, repeated rejection and neglect.

I couldn't imagine myself ever being in a sexless marriage, but then again I could- I can be spiteful when I get mad and I could see myself not giving sex if I were upset with them, hopefully I won't be upset for months!

What I don't understand. Is that if you loved someone you would sacrifice on occasion, to give them a sexual experience with you involved, even if it is just holding them while they touch themselves. And you wouldn't have to do it daily.

The average I've seemed to pick up is about 2 times a week, for your average married / defacto couple to have sex. So, if not even once a month you would include yourself in that, or even once a fortnight. I understand sometimes women, and maybe men, get into moods where sex is absolutely out of the question (to a point where they ragingly loathe it and everything to do with it- I get it). But I still think, once a month, there would be a day that they wouldn't mind at least helping out being present with their partner, for their sake! I'm sure most people are just out of the mood, and if loathing sex is involved it is usually because there's something wrong in the relationship. If it is withheld so much and to such a degree, it seems that it's not just a "sex" thing, unless they are selfish. Then it could be.

I'm sorry if I offend, I just don't like the idea of getting married and then having a sexless marriage. So I guess I'm doing my "pre-search"

Am I wrong? I'm not saying I'm right, so please share your experience with this. USA SG is for the mongers who share their experiences and learn through reading about providers reports by fellow mongers.

This forum is specifically for 'Ripoff Reports'.

Are you posting your comments in the right forum?

Did you get ripped off?

Who are you?

DJP

Stoner1
02-11-11, 20:13
I'm not even married, for those who don't know.

But I got thinking, due to various other threads on here.

A sexless marriage is those who have sex less than 10 times a year.

But it also takes into account that some couples who don't have high drives are more than content with a "sexless" marriage, and it isn't really sexless, because they don't have a problem with it.

3 main reasons for sexless marriage are loss of communication, repeated rejection and neglect.

I couldn't imagine myself ever being in a sexless marriage, but then again I could- I can be spiteful when I get mad and I could see myself not giving sex if I were upset with them, hopefully I won't be upset for months!

What I don't understand. Is that if you loved someone you would sacrifice on occasion, to give them a sexual experience with you involved, even if it is just holding them while they touch themselves. And you wouldn't have to do it daily.

The average I've seemed to pick up is about 2 times a week, for your average married / defacto couple to have sex. So, if not even once a month you would include yourself in that, or even once a fortnight. I understand sometimes women, and maybe men, get into moods where sex is absolutely out of the question (to a point where they ragingly loathe it and everything to do with it- I get it). But I still think, once a month, there would be a day that they wouldn't mind at least helping out being present with their partner, for their sake! I'm sure most people are just out of the mood, and if loathing sex is involved it is usually because there's something wrong in the relationship. If it is withheld so much and to such a degree, it seems that it's not just a "sex" thing, unless they are selfish. Then it could be.

I'm sorry if I offend, I just don't like the idea of getting married and then having a sexless marriage. So I guess I'm doing my "pre-search"

Am I wrong? I'm not saying I'm right, so please share your experience with this. Next time. Post first THEN smoke crack.

Wulfen
02-20-11, 08:39
http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleE...-do-25/2518353

Despite all the warnings, went to Hula across from Nirvana. Should have trusted instinct when I walked into the lineup entry room and was led down the hall and could see how the place earned its rep (guts said leave, now). Majority of the tiny 'cubicle' sized spaces had only a drape that didn't even cover the whole doorway, could see the lower half of mongers waiting for their providers (not exactly discreet, mood killer for me). I told MS room with door, or I'd go. So she kicks this polynesian / pinay looking girl who had a laptop opened to BP (probably posting?) out of her tiny tiny space, only large enough to have a single mattress, and a few feet of walking room beside, but it had a door. Based on an earlier report of the ex "misty" of VG, I chose 'Sarina. ' Her attitude was very SW like, and as others have stated, the fees are all up front. I decline shower, and she lays down an extra towel to cover the grungy mattress and pillow. Decent CBJ, with DT and a little BLS. Sadly, she's in such a hurry to process her 'trick' that she has zero sensitivity (or interest?) in getting me 100% hard before hopping on for CG. Then she starts the typical, going to try and make you come quick, pumping with some pussy control, but thanks to only getting me 60-70 percent to hard, her efforts to finish quickly are useless. During this phase, we were interrupted by both the girl who'd been kicked out of the room, but also by another (cuter) slim, younger local looking girl (3x total). They pretended to have made a mistake by opening the door, but were clearly playing stupid peekaboo game for sport or something (was late, and the room looked slow?). Sarina was yelling at them through the paper thin walls and you could hear girly giggling from the hall. Provider stopped in mid stroke to check to see none of them had taken her purse. Eventually they left us to our thing, and she got tired of CG, and asked to change places. I took her from the side for a bit, but the bed was so small that I was falling off, so I parked her in DS and stood on the floor. Finally reached full hard, and concentrated on finishing the (less than stellar) experience. In mid stride cute local peekaboo girl opens the door again, and pretends embarrassment. More yelling, giggling, etc. Was able to complete, and take a shower (probably 30-40 mns all told?) , came back to the empty room, dressed self, and was listening to provider chastising the peekaboo girls for disrespecting her space. Eventually she pokes her head in and asks if I have everything (cue: "you're finished, now fuck off so I can get another sucker in here").

Terrible mongering experience, wouldn't go back to that establishment given a choice. Could have had a better time car dating a SW for 50% or less of the price there.

L / A/S 6/4/5 (giving five only because her BJ skills were ok) , grossly overpaid the standard AMP rates. Probably going to copy / paste this to ripoff reports.

Dasearch
02-20-11, 09:02
http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleE...-do-25/2518353

Despite all the warnings, went to Hula across from Nirvana. Should have trusted instinct when I walked into the lineup entry room and was led down the hall and could see how the place earned its rep (guts said leave, now). Majority of the tiny 'cubicle' sized spaces had only a drape that didn't even cover the whole doorway, could see the lower half of mongers waiting for their providers (not exactly discreet, mood killer for me). I told MS room with door, or I'd go. So she kicks this polynesian / pinay looking girl who had a laptop opened to BP (probably posting?) out of her tiny tiny space, only large enough to have a single mattress, and a few feet of walking room beside, but it had a door. Based on an earlier report of the ex "misty" of VG, I chose 'Sarina. ' Her attitude was very SW like, and as others have stated, the fees are all up front. I decline shower, and she lays down an extra towel to cover the grungy mattress and pillow. Decent CBJ, with DT and a little BLS. Sadly, she's in such a hurry to process her 'trick' that she has zero sensitivity (or interest?) in getting me 100% hard before hopping on for CG. Then she starts the typical, going to try and make you come quick, pumping with some pussy control, but thanks to only getting me 60-70 percent to hard, her efforts to finish quickly are useless. During this phase, we were interrupted by both the girl who'd been kicked out of the room, but also by another (cuter) slim, younger local looking girl (3x total). They pretended to have made a mistake by opening the door, but were clearly playing stupid peekaboo game for sport or something (was late, and the room looked slow?). Sarina was yelling at them through the paper thin walls and you could hear girly giggling from the hall. Provider stopped in mid stroke to check to see none of them had taken her purse. Eventually they left us to our thing, and she got tired of CG, and asked to change places. I took her from the side for a bit, but the bed was so small that I was falling off, so I parked her in DS and stood on the floor. Finally reached full hard, and concentrated on finishing the (less than stellar) experience. In mid stride cute local peekaboo girl opens the door again, and pretends embarrassment. More yelling, giggling, etc. Was able to complete, and take a shower (probably 30-40 mns all told?) , came back to the empty room, dressed self, and was listening to provider chastising the peekaboo girls for disrespecting her space. Eventually she pokes her head in and asks if I have everything (cue: "you're finished, now fuck off so I can get another sucker in here").

Terrible mongering experience, wouldn't go back to that establishment given a choice. Could have had a better time car dating a SW for 50% or less of the price there.

L / A/S 6/4/5 (giving five only because her BJ skills were ok) , grossly overpaid the standard AMP rates. Probably going to copy / paste this to ripoff reports. Went there maybe 3 times, always a bad experience. I warned ya, especially since they always ask money up front. I have never had a good experience with providers not willing to get paid after. Even if I show them money and that I have extra for tip etc.

Niceguy808
03-12-11, 21:49
I have seen reports in other threads about ROBs, fake pics, etc and I am certain that mongers who frequent those threads appreciate the info. After all, some of us prefer AMPs, SWs or whatever and will get all their needed information in those forums.

But, rather than have to read through the whole thread to findout if a particular provider is an ROB or if somebody is using fake pics in their ads, it would make it easier if the person who posts about ROBs or fake pics in other threads would post the same information in this thread.

Otherwise, this thread's existence is pointless.

Just my opinion.

Kalani69
03-13-11, 00:02
I have seen reports in other threads about ROBs, fake pics, etc and I am certain that mongers who frequent those threads appreciate the info. After all, some of us prefer AMPs, SWs or whatever and will get all their needed information in those forums.

But, rather than have to read through the whole thread to findout if a particular provider is an ROB or if somebody is using fake pics in their ads, it would make it easier if the person who posts about ROBs or fake pics in other threads would post the same information in this thread.

Otherwise, this thread's existence is pointless.

Just my opinion. My personal opinion is that most guys going write ripoff reports on the relevant thread rather than use a separate thread. Actually, it's easier for my ole fart mind to follow. So yeah, who thinks this thread's existence is pointless? I do. And while we're at it, let's get rid of all the duplicative and underused threads.

Playboy54
03-14-11, 17:18
Constant rip offs and shitty providers on Oahu. It will only get worse and the economy tanks. Hawaii is the only place a shitty provider can get $150 an hour. I think this thread will be essential.

Playboy54.

If you paid for pussy in Hawaii, you probably paid too much.

Darkman808
03-18-11, 21:23
My personal opinion is that most guys going write ripoff reports on the relevant thread rather than use a separate thread. Actually, it's easier for my ole fart mind to follow. So yeah, who thinks this thread's existence is pointless? I do. And while we're at it, let's get rid of all the duplicative and underused threads.I agree with finding ROB info on the specific thread about those particular girls and threads. Better organization.

Hidawg808
03-22-11, 05:06
Based on an earlier report of the ex "misty" of VG, I chose 'Sarina. That's too bad. Misty was great at VG (one of my faves). Though usually when Tasha gives them the boot they go down hill pretty quickly. And before anyone contradicts me, I did say USUALLY (not all the time).

H Mobius
03-22-11, 22:44
I agree with finding ROB info on the specific thread about those particular girls and threads. Better organization.I can agree with you and Playboy54 both at the same time. I remember when this thread was used to report on the worst and nastiest ROBs; truly blatant and heinous cases of customer mistreatment.

Wulfen
04-14-11, 10:07
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?7541-Massage-Therapists&p=1175278&viewfull=1#post1175278

Busy Boy
04-16-11, 22:26
Heard from a friend that her service was poor and that she has manly features. He said service could have been poor since he did not take the offer of FS. He said that he knows that she is a girl because of her soft boobs, but wouldn't let him touch much.

John Ross
04-16-11, 22:50
Heard from a friend that her service was poor and that she has manly features. He said service could have been poor since he did not take the offer of FS. He said that he knows that she is a girl because of her soft boobs, but wouldn't let him touch much.That would be Coco 2. The original Hoover is at CHM.

Headrest
04-18-11, 19:41
Let the stars be a warning. She used to be a lot thinner. No service no remorse.


You cannot use it to intentionally cause ridicule.Star's Notorious.


Not as bad as the blond with the star tattoos.Look for the stars. Photo attached.

Member #4472
04-18-11, 21:38
Let the stars be a warning. She used to be a lot thinner. No service no remorse.

Star's Notorious.

Look for the stars. Photo attached. Known for getting the money and then running off before any service. Has done this mutliple times. Although not sure if she can pull it off now days with all the weight she put on. If you try her, be prepared for the worst.

Cosmic Kid
06-23-11, 22:16
Million has an outstanding body, tall, slender, sexy pouty lips. Unfortunately I found only her pussy to be available, and even that was conditional. No DATY, no DFK or even light kiss, didn't like tits being touched; allowed a bit but then protected bod. She's got a special mish technique where she had her legs in front so I couldn't even embrace her. I felt more alienated from women when I left than when I got there. She does have a pretty nice post-deed back pressure massage. During the deed she asked if I knew how much the price was. I said yes. Then she asked me how much! Afterwards I hand her the cash and this is the first time, in numerous visits to AMPs in Honolulu, that a provider has ever counted the money in front of me. Maybe it's even more devastating psychologically to be with such a gorgeous piece of ass and be treated so coldly. YMMV, but this was my experience with her.

Uki Eater
06-24-11, 06:54
Million has an outstanding body, tall, slender, sexy pouty lips. Unfortunately I found only her pussy to be available, and even that was conditional. No DATY, no DFK or even light kiss, didn't like tits being touched; allowed a bit but then protected bod. She's got a special mish technique where she had her legs in front so I couldn't even embrace her. I felt more alienated from women when I left than when I got there. She does have a pretty nice post-deed back pressure massage. During the deed she asked if I knew how much the price was. I said yes. Then she asked me how much! Afterwards I hand her the cash and this is the first time, in numerous visits to AMPs in Honolulu, that a provider has ever counted the money in front of me. Maybe it's even more devastating psychologically to be with such a gorgeous piece of ass and be treated so coldly. YMMV, but this was my experience with her.She might have had a bad experience with a previous customer and taking it out on you. She been around since Sakuras and now at VIP. So, she came across alot of customers. Pretty sure she had several bad experiences with customers in the past. When she asked you if you knew how much the price was, it sounds like she ran into someone who short tipped her. That, and the vibe with you just didn't feel comfortable with her. I think all AMP providers will feel like that with each customer they see. You could be a nice friendly guy but still, to her, she just don't feel it with you.

I had a few run ins with new providers I seen for the first time and even repeat providers where she looked moody as she walked into the room. During the session, eventually she displayed her moodiness.

Harry5142
06-24-11, 07:39
Let the stars be a warning. She used to be a lot thinner. No service no remorse.

Star's Notorious.

Look for the stars. Photo attached. Holy Shit she looks like she was beaten with the very ugly stick.

Phreekstyle
07-20-11, 06:07
Recently saw that the Mililani girls started posting again on BP

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/relaxing-time-with-crystal-20/2697378

Ad says " I'm just a sweet girl and please do not try to discuss details by phone the service is for my time."

She says this because! THERE ARE NO SERVICES!

I got in and she asks for the money up front and like a dumbass I hand it over cause it was the same thing for the last time I was there and I got FS. So she starts the back rub and I got to tell you guys this girl sucks. The pressure is weak and she does the same weak ass strokes over and over again. She charges $$.2 for 30 minutes of a lame ass weak backrub that you could get from your sister. So finally I asked at about the 10 minute point if there was anything else on the menu and she says

"sorry no, this is all I can do."

At this point I am PISSED! $$.2 for a backrub? Seriously? Are you effin kidding me? TH charges less than half that and they got friggin licenses to do this professionally and you want to charge 2 times that for what? Your sparkling personality? (she's not that fricken personable guys. NO ONE IS!) so I start inquiring about the other girls there and she has the gall to say "oh yeah, she does other stuffs but not me." like she was rubbing in the fact that I was going to get some blue balls today haha!

How do you post pics of you licking your lips and charge 2x the going rate of a regular professional masseuse and try to pass it off as " I'm just a sweet girl and please do not try to discuss details by phone the service is for my time." like your time is worth $$$.2 / hour? I know lawyers that charge less and they f*ck you even if you don't want them to.

So after the torture of the lame massage I rinsed off in a shower that smells like weed and get escorted out the door. $$.2 lighter in the wallet and balls the size of grapefuits. Let this be a warning to any and all mongers out there DO NOT partake of these girls shenanigans they are soooo not worth the hassle. Please boycott them and their sh*tty "service"

Pics are fake BTW,

Will never repeat L / A/S L-does it matter? A / 0. 001 S / 0. 00000001

MikeWatson
07-20-11, 15:24
Let the stars be a warning. She used to be a lot thinner. No service no remorse.

Star's Notorious.

Look for the stars. Photo attached.Beauty, surely is in the eyes of the beholder!

However, Arnold Swartzeneggar, would tear that up!

Member #4752
07-20-11, 16:19
Sorry for your bad experience, thanks for posting. Was thinking of trying that girl with the tongue ring, never had a BJ from a girl w / tongue ring. I did see Kelsey a few weeks back and had a

Blast with her, she talked a lot but did FS. Might want to try Kelsey, her pictures are her and she is a spinner.

[QUOTE=Phreekstyle; 1239846]Recently saw that the Mililani girls started posting again on BP.

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/relaxing-time-with-crystal-20/2697378

Ad says " I'm just a sweet girl and please do not try to discuss details by phone the service is for my time."

She says this because! THERE ARE NO SERVICES!

SN8K01
07-20-11, 16:25
Sorry for your bad experience, thanks for posting. Was thinking of trying that girl with the tongue ring, never had a BJ from a girl w / tongue ring. I did see Kelsey a few weeks back and had a

Blast with her, she talked a lot but did FS. Might want to try Kelsey, her pictures are her and she is a spinner.

[QUOTE=Phreekstyle; 1239846]Recently saw that the Mililani girls started posting again on BP.

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/relaxing-time-with-crystal-20/2697378

Ad says " I'm just a sweet girl and please do not try to discuss details by phone the service is for my time."

She says this because! THERE ARE NO SERVICES!Kelsey hasn't really been posting like the other girls in mililani. So she might be gone. But still, $$$+ is a lot to spend on something unless its a PSE, that leaves you completely drained. Some of the best providers can be had for $$.5 or less.

Member #4752
07-20-11, 22:50
I agree pricy but she did allow BB everything and CIM. She isn't a pro and there is something to be said about that too. I'd pay extra any day for fresh nani than old milage tuna. Thats only me though.

Kelsey hasn't really been posting like the other girls in mililani. So she might be gone. But still, $$$+ is a lot to spend on something unless its a PSE, that leaves you completely drained. Some of the best providers can be had for $$.5 or less.[/QUOTE]

H Mobius
07-26-11, 10:43
Beware the $40 drink bullshit there. There is no such thing especially in a KB with no true 'back tables'. Certain girls claim it is Maya-mama's policy when the drink is Patron, Crown or Heineken, but I do not believe she could be that stupid.

Got introduced to Emma who pulled this stunt. She is new to bars and seemed to only be doing as taught (like a kid hanging around the wrong people); nevertheless, I made her work for that drink rather than get rid of her (my thought was, "This is going to cost you") and slid her EZ-Access outfit to get to her T&A. Also made that drink last a good long time.

She's 31 (face looks it) but her body looks younger; Creamy A's with small pink areolae and buns like a 19 year-old. Unshaven but trimmed nan. Grabbed my balls and quoted me 200 to go to the room, but f-that.

HawaiiHorndog
08-08-11, 18:29
Julie mama from Splash. Rob queen!

Was having a drink at Splash the other night, when Julie mama comes and sits with us. Bought her a drink, and next thing you know, she's ordering drinks for everyone; other girls, the waiter, the DJ and herself. When the waiter brought the drinks back out table, I tell him we didn't order those, so waiter explains that mama orderd them. I told the waiter to ask Julie mama for the money, but leave one for the girl who was sitting next to my friend. Julie played it off and tried to act cool, but kept sitting there. After a few minutes she asks what about her, and I say, nah, but please ask the waiter to bring another one for my friends partner. Bursted her KB mama queen bubble! Hahahaha! Beat it! Biggest BS be* in the area hands down. Probably used to getting yes. Ok honey. You so hot! Thinks she's all that, but. NOT.

Stoner1
08-19-11, 22:26
Julie mama from Splash. Rob queen!

Was having a drink at Splash the other night, when Julie mama comes and sits with us. Bought her a drink, and next thing you know, she's ordering drinks for everyone; other girls, the waiter, the DJ and herself. When the waiter brought the drinks back out table, I tell him we didn't order those, so waiter explains that mama orderd them. I told the waiter to ask Julie mama for the money, but leave one for the girl who was sitting next to my friend. Julie played it off and tried to act cool, but kept sitting there. After a few minutes she asks what about her, and I say, nah, but please ask the waiter to bring another one for my friends partner. Bursted her KB mama queen bubble! Hahahaha! Beat it! Biggest BS be* in the area hands down. Probably used to getting yes. Ok honey. You so hot! Thinks she's all that, but. NOT.If thats the same Julie from New Casino, she's a psycho-beeyoch. Kicked us out just because we refused to waste money on her hags.

Playboy54
08-21-11, 17:08
Honolulu police: Japanese visitor kidnapped.

Honolulu police opened a kidnapping case involving a 46 year-old Japanese visitor. Police sometime on Saturday, the man was bound in his Waikiki hotel room and his wallet was taken. The hotel's security responded to the man's room after getting numerous dropped calls and found him with marks on his neck and his wrist. Police say the visitor could not recount what happened. He was taken to Straub hospital for treatment. Police have yet to make any arrests.

SN8K01
08-22-11, 14:40
Honolulu police: Japanese visitor kidnapped.

Honolulu police opened a kidnapping case involving a 46 year-old Japanese visitor. Police sometime on Saturday, the man was bound in his Waikiki hotel room and his wallet was taken. The hotel's security responded to the man's room after getting numerous dropped calls and found him with marks on his neck and his wrist. Police say the visitor could not recount what happened. He was taken to Straub hospital for treatment. Police have yet to make any arrests.Think there was another story not too long ago that was similar. A guy had 'TWO Friends' in his hotel room. He passed out from being drugged, and woke up to men in his room demanding he open his safe and give them everything he had. Sounds like the guys two friends were possibly a pair of ROB SW's working with men to steal.

T6650
08-22-11, 15:34
If thats the same Julie from New Casino, she's a psycho-beeyoch. Kicked us out just because we refused to waste money on her hags.Maybe that was time to call the cops. A Korean Bar is still a place of public accommodation. Unless you are drunk and disorderly or under 21 she can't kick you out if you are willing to buy your own drinks. Cops may be reluctant to file criminal charges but ask them to file a report so that you can take civil action for refusal of service. While they are there you can ask the cops to check the girl's drinks for alcohol so they can call in Liquor Commission. That should change her tune quickly. There are times when you can use LE to your advantage.

Big Jimm
08-23-11, 05:05
Had an issue with the owner a couple of weeks ago. Gave her my credit card to cover the bar tab. Drank a few drinks. Ran outside many times to talk on phone and smoke. Apparently, they kept ordering drinks for several girls while I was outside. Only was there about 1 hour. Spent half the time outside. So I go to pay the tab. Pulled money from the inside ATM and used my cash on hand. Kept asking for the bill. They refused to tell me. Kept buying me drinks. Stated I wanted to leave and pay my bill. I offered cash to pay. The owner whips out a bill for over $2000 total. I told her wrong bill. Wrong tab. I only had a few drinks and bought a few for 2 girls. So even at $40. 00 a drink the bill could not mathematically be that high in such a short period. I would not sign the slip. She gets pissed. Throws the card at me and tells me she does not need my money. I stated I would pay for what I ordered and nothing else. I left her what I thought I owed and took my credit card.

Few days later. Check my statement. She tried to run the charge through without a signed receipt or the card. I called the bank and turned them in for fraud. After I contacted the bar and they stated I had to pay.

The bank credited my money back.

Now owner pissed because she thinks her card machine will be disabled for VISA.

This was total bullshit. No way they drank that many drinks in 1 hour. And what is really important. I did not order nor did I have knowledge that they were charging that much.

Experience was insanity.

Keep in mind. I was only standing at the bar drinking. Did not go any private area or the room under the stairs. Nor did I make a deal to take anyone home.

Stoner1
08-23-11, 06:39
Maybe that was time to call the cops. A Korean Bar is still a place of public accommodation. Unless you are drunk and disorderly or under 21 she can't kick you out if you are willing to buy your own drinks. Cops may be reluctant to file criminal charges but ask them to file a report so that you can take civil action for refusal of service. While they are there you can ask the cops to check the girl's drinks for alcohol so they can call in Liquor Commission. That should change her tune quickly. There are times when you can use LE to your advantage.. Nah. Wasn't like that at all. She asked why we come and don't spend money. The general response was "send us something we want to spend money on." Words were exchanged, money was not. Same old shit. Long live NEON

H Mobius
08-23-11, 07:01
Maybe that was time to call the cops. A Korean Bar is still a place of public accommodation. Unless you are drunk and disorderly or under 21 she can't kick you out if you are willing to buy your own drinks. Cops may be reluctant to file criminal charges but ask them to file a report so that you can take civil action for refusal of service.I do not know how long they were there, but recently I have noticed new signs posted behind the bar at some Kapiolani KBs that state they reserve the right to refuse service, and wondered if there had been 'problems' recently.

As we all know, hostess bars don't care if customers are unhappy, end up broke, or have an accident and die on the way home.

Kapakahi
08-23-11, 11:38
As we all know, hostess bars don't care if customers are unhappy, end up broke, or have an accident and die on the way home.The KBGs even have the gall to ask to be listed as beneficiary of legal instruments. Couple old futs told me this some time ago; especially the power-of-attorney document of single, elderly guys. They don't want you to die until you sign and transfer all personal powers and documents of your estate, if any; they'll ask you to borrow whatever, if not.

KBGs are into everything when it comes to manipulation, power, & assets.

Captin Crunch
08-23-11, 13:25
I do not know how long they were there, but recently I have noticed new signs posted behind the bar at some Kapiolani KBs that state they reserve the right to refuse service, and wondered if there had been 'problems' recently.Most of the bars have these signs posted. It protects them from refusing service to drunk guys and known alcoholics.

Kapakahi
08-23-11, 14:20
Most of the bars have these signs posted. It protects them from refusing service to drunk guys and known alcoholics.There are a few known troublemakers and characters who frequent the KBs and purposely irritate the crap out of customers. Some enjoy giving people a hard time and others are brain-damaged from 40+ years of heavy drinking (notice that I don't care if they give crap to the KBGs and KBs) ; but basically it's the alcohol and acting like an infant (and there are a good number of these numbnuts crawling around).

T6650
08-23-11, 15:45
Most of the bars have these signs posted. It protects them from refusing service to drunk guys and known alcoholics.True these signs allow them to refuse service to drunk guys. In fact the law says they must. However, if you are sober, refusal of service is a violation of your civil rights.

If you refuse to buy nekohana and they refuse to serve you, call the cops. Believe me the MS will serve you herself before you get to the second 1 of 911.

Harry5142
08-23-11, 18:59
Had an issue with the owner a couple of weeks ago. Gave her my credit card to cover the bar tab. Drank a few drinks. Ran outside many times to talk on phone and smoke. Apparently, they kept ordering drinks for several girls while I was outside. Only was there about 1 hour. Spent half the time outside. So I go to pay the tab. Pulled money from the inside ATM and used my cash on hand. Kept asking for the bill. They refused to tell me. Kept buying me drinks. Stated I wanted to leave and pay my bill. I offered cash to pay. The owner whips out a bill for over $2000 total. I told her wrong bill. Wrong tab. I only had a few drinks and bought a few for 2 girls. So even at $40. 00 a drink the bill could not mathematically be that high in such a short period. I would not sign the slip. She gets pissed. Throws the card at me and tells me she does not need my money. I stated I would pay for what I ordered and nothing else. I left her what I thought I owed and took my credit card.

Few days later. Check my statement. She tried to run the charge through without a signed receipt or the card. I called the bank and turned them in for fraud. After I contacted the bar and they stated I had to pay.

The bank credited my money back.

Now owner pissed because she thinks her card machine will be disabled for VISA.

This was total bullshit. No way they drank that many drinks in 1 hour. And what is really important. I did not order nor did I have knowledge that they were charging that much.

Experience was insanity.

Keep in mind. I was only standing at the bar drinking. Did not go any private area or the room under the stairs. Nor did I make a deal to take anyone home.And that is why you never ever give them your credit card. Everything should be paid in cash. I've been to Club Sun several times and I've never used a credit for anything. Cash and cash only. You pay for your drinks as they serve your drinks.

StarQuality
08-23-11, 21:30
I'm new to this site obviously. I would like to help with some advice and suggestions. @Atc808 happy you had a good experience@Phreekstyle sorry it went so bad. I'm a real person and by no stretch an Uncle Tom h8 these jerks or pimp also on my crap list. These Mililani girls will not go below $$.2 I can tell you who offers FS and the others are really teaching lessons. It wasn't meant to be this way but can't force anyone to do somethin they don't want to right. I have seen every girl in Mililani. I can tell you who is around and who isn't. Kelsey and Veronica are one in the same had to change for some reason and has been out sick. Secret is a must see and very experienced and pretty open to helping you feel good. She is around with the 2 masseuses Rose and Crystal. These 2 are the prettiest girls there, they do massages but don't post their real pics. More like good company if you know what I mean. Ciara is another must see. She is no amateur just like Secret they are a real blast. There is one other girl Lexi all these girls have fresh and clean nanis which is always a major plus to me. Mouth action is really splendid to like they enjoy it. Like Kelsey they all post there real pics but because there trying to be discreet they edit their faces or crop the pics. Like it has been said they are a bit pricier but I like the fact it is legit, convient and you can't beat the fact that there is no MS rushin you to get out. My other bad experiences consist of while in motion at MP girls walking in trying to be slick laughing and giggling to get you out. Or pumpin real fast too early to rush you at the airport. The airport as cheap as it is is not worth it. The girl will push you to get dressed while your in the middle of peaking. Lets not forget the buy me drinky WTF. Like Phreekstyle I had to learn my lesson to and after the massage I felt played and when I came out I had to ask. I was like I heard great things about this place but why do I feel played they got me a drink for free and explained. I laughed and it helped relieve the pressure built up in my sac. I now know the girls that will empty it and well might I add. I swore I would never go again but like I said after I asked they were real about it and a great group to be around. They even turn flips on this dance pole. I really enjoy this place. I got to thinking for the distance I have to drive to the MP and the entry fee plus the girls fee I probably pay more than I do in Mililani. Plus at least here I don't have to worry about raids. I have somethin to add about it being pricey. I look at it like shopping or buying food. If you want nice things you pay a little more if you want crap you get what you pay for. Like if you want a greasy cheeseburger for a buck you go to mcdonalds. If you want a nice mouth watering steak you go to Mortons. I don't know how to score it but Girls are beautiful, in shape, fresh nanis, awesome BJ, great and pleasant company, and as long as you don't pick the masseuses it will be FS. Hope this helps. I really enjoy going to this place. One other thing that I suggested to them is they post schedules cause like I have read about no one answering or trying to leave VM and its full so true but when you do get in you have a blast.


Sorry for your bad experience, thanks for posting. Was thinking of trying that girl with the tongue ring, never had a BJ from a girl w / tongue ring. I did see Kelsey a few weeks back and had a

Blast with her, she talked a lot but did FS. Might want to try Kelsey, her pictures are her and she is a spinner.

[QUOTE=Phreekstyle; 1239846]Recently saw that the Mililani girls started posting again on BP.

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/relaxing-time-with-crystal-20/2697378

Ad says " I'm just a sweet girl and please do not try to discuss details by phone the service is for my time."

She says this because! THERE ARE NO SERVICES!

Crazy Glu
08-24-11, 07:29
And that is why you never ever give them your credit card. Everything should be paid in cash. I've been to Club Sun several times and I've never used a credit for anything. Cash and cash only. You pay for your drinks as they serve your drinks.YUP! On the so called Grand Openning myself & my buddy was there sitting at the bar we were ordering beers & food. We ordered some beers & left the change on the bar, me & my friend go to drain the meat (pee) , he goes back to sit down, I go outside to smoke, when I get back in my bro asked hey did you take the money? I said nope why? He said well its missing? It wasn't that much like maybe $13. Of course our beers was still there BUT the cash on counter was GONE! We ask them they say NO! We asked did you leave to go some place they say NO! So either someone snatched it OR the fricken bartendress grabbed it. While it was kind of still early & the place was still not full, my buddy & I suspect that damn bartendress took it, but of course we got no proof, but come on the place not even busy how could it be someone (customer). Anyway as for the food we ran a tab too. We didn't eat that much BUT when I told them how much for the food they said $300. 00, BOTH myself & my buddy said WTF! $300. 00? Are you kidding me? They said some bullsh! T excuse that,"Oh but tonight is grand openning." Both me & my buddy just stood up & left & we haven't been back to that fricken place ever since.

CG

T6650
08-24-11, 09:13
Had an issue with the owner a couple of weeks ago. .Experience was insanity.Keep in mind. I was only standing at the bar drinking. Did not go any private area or the room under the stairs. Nor did I make a deal to take anyone home.I hope he won't mind my saying this but I am pretty sure I know who Big Jimm is, based on his prior posts and a one time conversation I had with him in Viet SC over a decade ago. Without disclosing the details, I can say he has substantial street-cred with the older generation of VBG based on in-country experience. That said there is almost a 100% turnover in the VBG population with the original war brides being replaced with first refugees and now US born CA girls. This Club Sun incident is indicative of that change.

I might add that Big Jimm took some heat in this forum a few months ago for describing an incident in which he backed down from a conflict. Let me just say that he was exercising gentlemanly discretion and the other party was very lucky.

Chubs
08-24-11, 17:51
No pro, but there is a section to advertise and not have to be tricky about it. Another good method is to deliver excellent service, including answering the calls and returning messages. Just improve and actually earn the star quality rather than boast that you have star quality. Besides, there were more than a handful of contradicting statements in your post.


I'm new to this site obviously. I would like to help with some advice and suggestions. @Atc808 happy you had a good experience@Phreekstyle Sorry it went so bad. I'm a real person and by no stretch an Uncle Tom h8 these jerks or pimp also on my crap list. These Mililani girls will not go below $$.2 I can tell you who offers FS and the others are really teaching lessons. It wasn't meant to be this way but can't force anyone to do somethin they don't want to right. I have seen every girl in Mililani. I can tell you who is around and who isn't. Kelsey and Veronica are one in the same had to change for some reason and has been out sick. Secret is a must see and very experienced and pretty open to helping you feel good. She is around with the 2 masseuses Rose and Crystal. These 2 are the prettiest girls there, they do massages but don't post their real pics. More like good company if you know what I mean. Ciara is another must see. She is no amateur just like Secret they are a real blast. There is one other girl Lexi all these girls have fresh and clean nanis which is always a major plus to me. Mouth action is really splendid to like they enjoy it. Like Kelsey they all post there real pics but because there trying to be discreet they edit their faces or crop the pics. Like it has been said they are a bit pricier but I like the fact it is legit, convient and you can't beat the fact that there is no MS rushin you to get out. My other bad experiences consist of while in motion at MP girls walking in trying to be slick laughing and giggling to get you out. Or pumpin real fast too early to rush you at the airport. The airport as cheap as it is is not worth it. The girl will push you to get dressed while your in the middle of peaking. Lets not forget the buy me drinky WTF. Like Phreekstyle I had to learn my lesson to and after the massage I felt played and when I came out I had to ask. I was like I heard great things about this place but why do I feel played they got me a drink for free and explained. I laughed and it helped relieve the pressure built up in my sac. I now know the girls that will empty it and well might I add. I swore I would never go again but like I said after I asked they were real about it and a great group to be around. They even turn flips on this dance pole. I really enjoy this place. I got to thinking for the distance I have to drive to the MP and the entry fee plus the girls fee I probably pay more than I do in Mililani. Plus at least here I don't have to worry about raids. I have somethin to add about it being pricey. I look at it like shopping or buying food. If you want nice things you pay a little more if you want crap you get what you pay for. Like if you want a greasy cheeseburger for a buck you go to mcdonalds. If you want a nice mouth watering steak you go to Mortons. I don't know how to score it but Girls are beautiful, in shape, fresh nanis, awesome BJ, great and pleasant company, and as long as you don't pick the masseuses it will be FS. Hope this helps. I really enjoy going to this place. One other thing that I suggested to them is they post schedules cause like I have read about no one answering or trying to leave VM and its full so true but when you do get in you have a blast.

[QUOTE=Atc808; 1240210]Sorry for your bad experience, thanks for posting. Was thinking of trying that girl with the tongue ring, never had a BJ from a girl w / tongue ring. I did see Kelsey a few weeks back and had a

Blast with her, she talked a lot but did FS. Might want to try Kelsey, her pictures are her and she is a spinner.

H Mobius
08-25-11, 07:52
YUP! On the so called Grand Openning myself & my buddy was there sitting at the bar we were ordering beers & food. We ordered some beers & left the change on the bar, me & my friend go to drain the meat (pee) , he goes back to sit down, I go outside to smoke, when I get back in my bro asked hey did you take the money? I said nope why? He said well its missing? It wasn't that much like maybe $13. Of course our beers was still there BUT the cash on counter was GONE! We ask them they say NO! We asked did you leave to go some place they say NO! So either someone snatched it OR the fricken bartendress grabbed it. While it was kind of still early & the place was still not full, my buddy & I suspect that damn bartendress took it, but of course we got no proof, but come on the place not even busy how could it be someone (customer). Anyway as for the food we ran a tab too. We didn't eat that much BUT when I told them how much for the food they said $300. 00, BOTH myself & my buddy said WTF! $300. 00? Are you kidding me? They said some bullsh! T excuse that,"Oh but tonight is grand openning." Both me & my buddy just stood up & left & we haven't been back to that fricken place ever since.

CGIf I correctly understand the use of the term, IMHO that place has "Bad Juju" stemming from an atrocity a number of years ago. I cannot remember the year I last went in there but I believe it was 1995 and I haven't been back either.

Head Lock
08-25-11, 23:50
If I correctly understand the use of the term, IMHO that place has "Bad Juju" stemming from an atrocity a number of years ago. I cannot remember the year I last went in there but I believe it was 1995 and I haven't been back either."Atrocity"? Bestiality? Cannibalism? What happened?

Kapakahi
08-26-11, 00:02
"Atrocity"? Bestiality? Cannibalism? What happened?Sorry for butting in but if that's the bar / strip joint next to Lex Brodie's@Queen St, then there was a shooting involving the owner at that time and one of the customers. She shot the customer in the bar with a revolver, killing him; unsure of the motive. Please verify as I can't remember all from 20 years ago; bar name has changed, too, I believe.

Pursuer
08-26-11, 02:30
If I correctly understand the use of the term, IMHO that place has "Bad Juju" stemming from an atrocity a number of years ago. I cannot remember the year I last went in there but I believe it was 1995 and I haven't been back either.I can't remember the exact year either, but a bartender was shot and killed during a robbery. Pretty tragic. It was a Sunday, a day they normally closed, but they decided to open because it was Christmas eve. The perpetrators were never caught. Korean mama with nice sized tits and a little crossed eyed was besides herself in typical Korean hysterical crying and carrying on when they interviewed her for a news clip. Probably crying over the lost money, never mind her dead boyfriend. She moved over to manage Sundance; she used to work at My House prior to Sun.


Sorry for butting in but if that's the bar / strip joint next to Lex Brodie's@Queen St, then there was a shooting involving the owner at that time and one of the customers. She shot the customer in the bar with a revolver, killing him; unsure of the motive. Please verify as I can't remember all from 20 years ago; bar name has changed, too, I believe.The bar right next to Lex Brodie's is Sundance. Can't remember the old name. Don't remember a mama killing a customer there or at any bar. A guy shot and killed a hostess at Yokohama which is half a block away from Lex's.

There was a murder in the building where Club Sabai is (across Sundance). This was in the mid 70's. It was a surf shop and the owner, Rich Parr, was killed by his gf, if I remember correctly.

John Ross
08-26-11, 02:59
"Atrocity"? Bestiality? Cannibalism? What happened?The atrocity that occurred at Club Sun was the owner was murdered on Christmas Day in 1996 or 1997.

Club Yokohama/Queen Bee on Queen Street had a hostess murdered by a customer in 2004.

Member 69
08-26-11, 04:38
True these signs allow them to refuse service to drunk guys. In fact the law says they must. However, if you are sober, refusal of service is a violation of your civil rights.

If you refuse to buy nekohana and they refuse to serve you, call the cops. Believe me the MS will serve you herself before you get to the second 1 of 911.You are incorrect. The signs do not specify that they can refuse service if you are drunk but just says that they can refuse service, period. They can refuse service for no reason or any reason at all. It isn't a violation of your civil rights because you are in their establishment and the sign only justifies their right to refuse you service. If you call the cops they can say that they refused to serve you because you were causing trouble. You can try to file a complaint with the liquor commission but again they can claim that you were causing trouble and they refused to serve you.

It's not likely that they will physically kick you out or call the cops but they will probably ignore you and nobody will serve you. I've seen it happen, at a bar in kalihi about 5 years ago, one guy was talking smack at the girls. Everyone ignored the guy, nobody served him and the mama told him to get out and then ignored him after that. He finished his beer and after 15 minutes he walked out because everyone ignored him and refused to serve him again.

Oldee
08-26-11, 06:23
If I correctly understand the use of the term, IMHO that place has "Bad Juju" stemming from an atrocity a number of years ago. I cannot remember the year I last went in there but I believe it was 1995 and I haven't been back either.I may have posted this before but in the mid 70s, an off duty cop shot a crazy customer and killed him after unloading 6 shots of hollow point in him. I was a young kid then and the cop was my friend's older brother. Those were the days when speeding was a greater offense than driving drunk an never used the term DUI. I bet some of you oldtimers remember those days altho its so long ago I forgot so much.

Phreekstyle
08-26-11, 09:40
I have many issues with this post.

First off if these girls will not go below $$.2 and you liken them to a Morton's steak house. Then what is it that they provide that is BETTER IN QUALITY than what MS brings out@7 or Nirvana? Both of which charge $$/hr which is. 2 less than these girls will never go below. IMHO Chanel gives FAR MORE SUPERIOR massages and FS than any of these hoes. That Nani is soo fricken tight I bust just thinking about it, and her body is at least an 8 while them white girls are a 7 at best. I live on the west side so when action opens up around here I am curious just like anyone cause no one likes to waste gas in these economic times. But I would pay for the gas to save the time and money wasted on non FS providing bitches that think that they can charge me $$ for 30 minutes of lame massage. I can get that for far less@a REAL Spa! Heaven on Earth in DT only charges you $.1 / hr and they are TRAINED PROFESSIONALS. These girls make like they shit silk and piss gold! I don't know how hard you got to work to make $$$ but for me its a luxury to be able to afford that and when I spend it on someone "for their conversation and time." they either better be making me money or saving my ass from a mafia hit man NO ONE's time is worth that much unless you are a fricken lawyer! And these hoes only know the laws that affect them.

If they were to offer BBFSCIP or BBBJCIM with MSOG or full on PSE then I could see them charging what they do. But I bet the girls that you mentioned don't even offer the standard GFE stuffs like DFK or DATY. If those services are off the menu, then why the higher than normal prices? Its like buying a tube of toothpaste at Wal-mart and then buy the SAME toothpaste at a mom and pop store but the mom and pop store charges you more and you only get the paste you need to spend more to get the tube its supposed to come in. If that was the offer to you would you frequent that mom and pop joint or would you rather buy it@Wal-Mart? If you going to charge me for "your good company" then charge me something less as the services that I WANT are NOT on the menu. Them Massuses better learn that if you offer more services, then you can charge more. If you are offering less services, then please charge the customer less so that I do not feel disgruntled. That is how the service industry works. You cannot be charging Mercedes Benz prices when you guys are the Daewoo of service.

And if Chanel or Seven or Joanne is a "Greasy cheeseburger" then SUPER SIZE ME! I may never want to eat overly priced beef EVER!

Phreekstyle


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Eman007
08-26-11, 13:03
Hahaha I wrote a review of these warped self image providers, (they think they are so hot you cum just by looking at them, LOL) when they first appeared and nothing has changed, but thats why all the local boys bang the AMP and snow bunny chicks LOL you said it quite well.


I have many issues with this post.

First off if these girls will not go below $$.2 and you liken them to a Morton's steak house. Then what is it that they provide that is BETTER IN QUALITY than what MS brings out@7 Or Nirvana? Both of which charge $$/hr which is. 2 less than these girls will never go below. IMHO Chanel gives FAR MORE SUPERIOR massages and FS than any of these hoes. That Nani is soo fricken tight I bust just thinking about it, and her body is at least an 8 while them white girls are a 7 at best. I live on the west side so when action opens up around here I am curious just like anyone cause no one likes to waste gas in these economic times. But I would pay for the gas to save the time and money wasted on non FS providing bitches that think that they can charge me $$ for 30 minutes of lame massage. I can get that for far less@a REAL Spa! Heaven on Earth in DT only charges you $.1 / hr and they are TRAINED PROFESSIONALS. These girls make like they shit silk and piss gold! I don't know how hard you got to work to make $$$ but for me its a luxury to be able to afford that and when I spend it on someone "for their conversation and time." they either better be making me money or saving my ass from a mafia hit man NO ONE's time is worth that much unless you are a fricken lawyer! And these hoes only know the laws that affect them.

If they were to offer BBFSCIP or BBBJCIM with MSOG or full on PSE then I could see them charging what they do. But I bet the girls that you mentioned don't even offer the standard GFE stuffs like DFK or DATY. If those services are off the menu, then why the higher than normal prices? Its like buying a tube of toothpaste at Wal-mart and then buy the SAME toothpaste at a mom and pop store but the mom and pop store charges you more and you only get the paste you need to spend more to get the tube its supposed to come in. If that was the offer to you would you frequent that mom and pop joint or would you rather buy it@Wal-Mart? If you going to charge me for "your good company" then charge me something less as the services that I WANT are NOT on the menu. Them Massuses better learn that if you offer more services, then you can charge more. If you are offering less services, then please charge the customer less so that I do not feel disgruntled. That is how the service industry works. You cannot be charging Mercedes Benz prices when you guys are the Daewoo of service.

And if Chanel or Seven or Joanne is a "Greasy cheeseburger" then SUPER SIZE ME! I may never want to eat overly priced beef EVER!

Phreekstyle

Head Lock
08-26-11, 22:29
True these signs allow them to refuse service to drunk guys. In fact the law says they must.Untrue. LC rules do not allow liquor service to an intoxicated customer. No signage or other notification is required. No law compels a bar to serve you.


However, if you are sober, refusal of service is a violation of your civil rights.Bullshit. To pull the civil rights card for something like this trivializes "civil rights". Frankly, if I were a bartender and didn't want to serve you and you pulled this stunt, my defense is that "I thought you were drunk." No agency would overrule me on this. It isn't a violation of one's civil rights to be denied service because he is an asshole.


If you refuse to buy nekohana and they refuse to serve you, call the cops. Believe me the MS will serve you herself before you get to the second 1 of 911.Actually, I have seen this happen. Bonehead called 911. HPD arrived. Cops took the discussion out to the parking lot. They told the guy the bar owner 86-ed him and if he came back to the bar, he would be arrested.

Lowlys One
08-29-11, 23:43
I may have posted this before but in the mid 70s, an off duty cop shot a crazy customer and killed him after unloading 6 shots of hollow point in him. I was a young kid then and the cop was my friend's older brother. Those were the days when speeding was a greater offense than driving drunk an never used the term DUI. I bet some of you oldtimers remember those days altho its so long ago I forgot so much.Yup you're right about back in those days speeding and stuff like racing was worse then drinking and driving, matter of fact we used to get busted drinking a kcc when was old the buildings or in ala mo beach park watching the races and all they we worried about was. The empty bottles amd cans cause the state parks cree would colplain so thry had to respond. I guess madd, changed things for the better but at the time we. Looked at them as if they had a problem!

Big Jimm
10-12-11, 07:52
Follow-up. After some intense negotiations with the owner. Finally got her to agree that I in fact did not order many of the drinks I was charged for. As I stated. I was outside on the phone (music too loud in the club). And she agreed that I did in fact state no to many of the drinks that were ordered.

She reduced the bill to something more reasonable that we both can agree on and I have provided the owner with compensation. I am not exactly happy. And neither is the owner. But at least we met in the middle to keep the peace.

[QUOTE=Big Jimm; 1262017]Had an issue with the owner a couple of weeks ago. Gave her my credit card to cover the bar tab. Drank a few drinks. Ran outside many times to talk on phone and smoke. Apparently, they kept ordering drinks for several girls while I was outside. Only was there about 1 hour. Spent half the time outside. So I go to pay the tab. Pulled money from the inside ATM and used my cash on hand. Kept asking for the bill. They refused to tell me. Kept buying me drinks. Stated I wanted to leave and pay my bill. I offered cash to pay. The owner whips out a bill for over $2000 total. I told her wrong bill. Wrong tab. I only had a few drinks and bought a few for 2 girls. So even at $40. 00 a drink the bill could not mathematically be that high in such a short period. I would not sign the slip. She gets pissed. Throws the card at me and tells me she does not need my money. I stated I would pay for what I ordered and nothing else. I left her what I thought I owed and took my credit card.

VB Avenger
11-14-11, 22:14
Warning for whomever you are. Saw Kathy of Club Sun with a "new" local boyfriend over the weekend. Fair warning. She is only in any relationship for money. She will claim she has no money for clothes or makeup and needs to support her son in Vietnam or pay for her mothers medical care in Vietnam. What she really needs money for is to GAMBLE and payoff GAMBLING debts. She is one of the very best Liars I have ever run across."A" Number ONE Liar. Remember who she is. A refuge, with no education, a gambler (she has football auto streaming on her cell phone to keep up with scores) , she cannot speak without lying and she has worked in Viet Bars for over 10 years servicing customers one and all who have enough cash or credit to pay. She has worked at Club Sun, Club EVA / ANNA on Nimitz, Saigon Nights near Ala Moana, Sandy's Place on Kapiolani, Club Sandy on K-Street and numerous other bars in the Ala Moana area. She has been a free-lancer skipping from bar to bar. And does take out. Which she calls a "date". Most recently she was needing $20, 000 cash. Plus $2000 / month for "expenses. Anything you give her of tangible value like jewerly. Will be pawned down in China Town for cash.

Hello Kitty
11-15-11, 14:51
Warning for whomever you are. Saw Kathy of Club Sun with a "new" local boyfriend over the weekend. Fair warning. She is only in any relationship for money. She will claim she has no money for clothes or makeup and needs to support her son in Vietnam or pay for her mothers medical care in Vietnam. What she really needs money for is to GAMBLE and payoff GAMBLING debts. She is one of the very best Liars I have ever run across."A" Number ONE Liar. Remember who she is. A refuge, with no education, a gambler (she has football auto streaming on her cell phone to keep up with scores) , she cannot speak without lying and she has worked in Viet Bars for over 10 years servicing customers one and all who have enough cash or credit to pay. She has worked at Club Sun, Club EVA / ANNA on Nimitz, Saigon Nights near Ala Moana, Sandy's Place on Kapiolani, Club Sandy on K-Street and numerous other bars in the Ala Moana area. She has been a free-lancer skipping from bar to bar. And does take out. Which she calls a "date". Most recently she was needing $20, 000 cash. Plus $2000 / month for "expenses. Anything you give her of tangible value like jewerly. Will be pawned down in China Town for cash.All girls that works in the bar is in for the money and the best part of it is that they never run out of boyfriends.

VB Avenger
11-20-11, 22:06
All girls that works in the bar is in for the money and the best part of it is that they never run out of boyfriends.Yes. I agree with you 100.

Ck813
11-29-11, 14:30
Every fucking girl who works in a bar is a rip off. Come on guys.

Harry5142
11-29-11, 16:03
I think we need some definition here fellas as to what constitutes a "rip-off" in this hobby.

A "rip-off" in this hobby is when one of us goes to an AMP, for instance, where we know sex is for sale, we pay for sex and the provider doesn't give it to us. Or she gives us so many hassles about it, rules if you will, that we'd be better off jerking our dicks to some porn. In the case of a hostess bar the rip-off happens when a woman offers sex if we buy more drinks and doesn't deliver. Same with the strippers.

It is not a "rip-off" when a provider, stripper or hostess asks you for money and gifts in exchange for love or a relationship because

We aren't supposed to fall in love with those hoes. We enjoy them for sex, company, conversation etc. At the venue that we have found them. However, we do not and must not mistake any of that for anything other than a business relationship because that.

S what it is.

Fellow mongerers, if you make the mistake of thinking otherwise, and that mistake leads to the giving of money and gifts beyond what is required for the services rendered, then you are a fool. This is a hobby meant for fun and pleasure on our end and a means of income on their's. Keep that in mind and we can avoid being disappointed.

Remember: We don't love them hoes! We treat them with respect we pay them for their services. But we do not fall in love.

Headrest
11-29-11, 19:08
A rip-off is when a streetwalker takes your money, but does not deliver the goods.


I think we need some definition here fellas as to what constitutes a "rip-off."The verbal phrase rip off "to steal or rob," is first recorded in black slang in 1967, but rip was prison slang for "to steal" since 1904, and was also used in this sense in the twelfth century.

See: Wikipedia A ripoff (or rip-off) is a bad financial transaction. Usually it refers to an incident in which a person overpays for something. A ripoff is distinguished from a scam in that a scam involves wrongdoing such as fraud; whether or not something is a ripoff, on the other hand, is a matter of opinion.

Hello Kitty
11-30-11, 05:52
Every fucking girl who works in a bar is a rip off. Come on guys.Those fucking girls are Evil People.

Hello Kitty
11-30-11, 06:00
All girls that works in the bar is in for the money and the best part of it is that they never run out of boyfriends.
Yes. I agree with you 100.The other best part is we never run out of belots to play with.

Oldee
11-30-11, 21:37
Every fucking girl who works in a bar is a rip off. Come on guys.I agree with you bro, just think its funny we rarely get reports of guys getting ripped off by bar girls, hehe. I suppose there's the shame factor but I also think many don't even know they are getting screwed over every time they step into the bars, LOL.

Chik0848
11-30-11, 23:25
I agree with you bro, just think its funny we rarely get reports of guys getting ripped off by bar girls, hehe. I suppose there's the shame factor but I also think many don't even know they are getting screwed over every time they step into the bars, LOL.The ripoff in the bars is so prevalent that everyone "should know" it'll happen, but in the AMPs, it is not as common for it to happen. When a provider does it, we should spread the word to help the brothers save the $50/$150. I agree with you about the shame factor, especially if you sit there and spend $$$ without getting anything in return.

Uki Eater
12-01-11, 00:28
I suppose there's the shame factor but I also think many don't even know they are getting screwed over every time they step into the bars, LOL.No doubt it's the shame factor. They are bothered by the fact that the BG just got 5-10 drinks in 1 hour. But, they wouldn't openly display it to the BG they sitting with. Heh, but inside of them, they're thinking:

"Shit! Just got her 5 drinks in less than 30 minutes already!"

Why be shame? Don't want to look bad and display that you're bothered or else the BG you like / interested in may leave huh? Hehe.

As far as them not knowing they're being screwed over, that's funny.

"Hmm, I just bought 10 drinks in 1 hour, is that how it goes in a KB? I guess it is because I see other guys doing the same thing"

Bill
12-01-11, 17:52
IMHO the K bars are there for lonely guys with money.

Its not rocket science.

The service is there because of the local demand.

Even if the trick is not getting laid he will get momentary companionship, eye / body contact and a listening ear, all missing in his life.

There is no other way he is going to get a sexy, young girl to smile at his old ugly out of shape ass.

They are looking at most customers like $ signs as if you just walked onto a car lot.

So if guys are complaining about spending money for companionship or puss, then earn more, get in shape, or up your game.

Don't be offended as these are personal observations and if your real sensitive about others opinions and the occasional truth, grow a pair ladat spladat.

Waikikian
12-02-11, 02:06
I think we need some definition here fellas as to what constitutes a "rip-off" in this hobby.

A "rip-off" in this hobby is when one of us goes to an AMP, for instance, where we know sex is for sale, we pay for sex and the provider doesn't give it to us. Or she gives us so many hassles about it, rules if you will, that we'd be better off jerking our dicks to some porn. In the case of a hostess bar the rip-off happens when a woman offers sex if we buy more drinks and doesn't deliver. Same with the strippers.

It is not a "rip-off" when a provider, stripper or hostess asks you for money and gifts in exchange for love or a relationship because

We aren't supposed to fall in love with those hoes. We enjoy them for sex, company, conversation etc. At the venue that we have found them. However, we do not and must not mistake any of that for anything other than a business relationship because that.

S what it is.

Fellow mongerers, if you make the mistake of thinking otherwise, and that mistake leads to the giving of money and gifts beyond what is required for the services rendered, then you are a fool. This is a hobby meant for fun and pleasure on our end and a means of income on their's. Keep that in mind and we can avoid being disappointed.

Remember: We don't love them hoes! We treat them with respect we pay them for their services. But we do not fall in love.From my recollection R. I. P. Basically meant Rest in Peace. Meaning that when you got ripped off, you actually got taken for all you had, RIP.

The gal had no mercy and got you for all you had, RIP!

Waikikian,

The "Go to Man".

Memahu
12-02-11, 03:47
From my recollection R. I. P. Basically meant Rest in Peace. Meaning that when you got ripped off, you actually got taken for all you had, RIP.Easy credit to ripoffs. Good Times.

Hypo Luxa
12-02-11, 04:55
Easy credit to ripoffs. Good Times.Ain't we lucky we got 'em?

Headrest
12-03-11, 01:09
So if guys are complaining about spending money for companionship or puss, then earn more, get in shape, or up your game.You can get her, or someone who looks just like her, to do anything that you want, as long as you are generous with the cash. There is one thing, that all the girls will universally agree to. They want more money to spend on themselves. Getting rid of your pick-up truck will undoubtedly help, but money talks and nobody walks.

Member #4472
01-19-12, 05:14
She advertises on BP, Eat, and Cvibe. Hooked up with her the last time she was here. We agreed on the deal, she took the $, and then said "I don't do that for that much". The amount was the going rate and she agreed to the deal. Then she insisted that the deal wasn't a deal. Then she just refused to do anything. Since I'm not a violent guy, I left. I told others about her and I even got PMs back about how bad she is. Not only the usual upsell, but just like with me, refusing to do anything. She knows that guys in Hawaii rather walk away then make an issue of it. Others PMed that she is a crack head and even though she did the deed with them, service was terrible.

First hint at trouble should have been her photos. They are not of her. She looks nothing like the photos.

I should have known better. Now you've been warned. She is a ripoff.

H Mobius
02-04-12, 17:51
http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-sisters-sherry-21yr-and-melody-23yr-cutie-ever-23/3159075

The top pic of the girl with the tat on her pooch is real and is Sherry (also uses other names probably to tell who is who when she looks for posts).

YMMV, however:

As you can see, she is not Grade A material, yet wants 200 (60 + 140) upfront. Claimed she would give 'everything' but then only does a massage, and teases with no play. She is definitely not "21"; late 30's to mid 40's is more like it.

I was angry and she then offered HJ, but her nails kept poking the sac and I'm not a HJ fan anyway so I stopped her.

Nan is not fresh either and smelled. Avoid this one. As indicated in the ad, there are other girls but they seemed like they should maybe not be in the 'men' business. They offer hiring more than one girl and if not, the others 'take a walk'. They have multiple aliases as well, so if one does partake it would probably be simpler to just pick on the spot.

Another good example of why Not to pay upfront. I only stayed because I went through some effort to make it there, and I happen to like Chinese women. Will not repeat there, though.

The place (a small studio) is right above a drinking spot so it is not very discreet, for those concerned about a "walk of shame". Also, a little birdie told me they have a big black pimp lurking downstairs, but I didn't see him anywhere and there was no place to hide in the apartment. If they keep ripping guys off, eventually they're going to need that pimp.

Ocolumbo
02-04-12, 18:32
http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-sisters-sherry-21yr-and-melody-23yr-cutie-ever-23/3159075

The top pic of the girl with the tat on her pooch is real and is Sherry (also uses other names probably to tell who is who when she looks for posts).

YMMV, however:

As you can see, she is not Grade A material, yet wants 200 (60 + 140) upfront. Claimed she would give 'everything' but then only does a massage, and teases with no play. She is definitely not "21"; late 30's to mid 40's is more like it.

I was angry and she then offered HJ, but her nails kept poking the sac and I'm not a HJ fan anyway so I stopped her.

Nan is not fresh either and smelled. Avoid this one. As indicated in the ad, there are other girls but they seemed like they should maybe not be in the 'men' business. They offer hiring more than one girl and if not, the others 'take a walk'. They have multiple aliases as well, so if one does partake it would probably be simpler to just pick on the spot.

Another good example of why Not to pay upfront. I only stayed because I went through some effort to make it there, and I happen to like Chinese women. Will not repeat there, though.

The place (a small studio) is right above a drinking spot so it is not very discreet, for those concerned about a "walk of shame". Also, a little birdie told me they have a big black pimp lurking downstairs, but I didn't see him anywhere and there was no place to hide in the apartment. If they keep ripping guys off, eventually they're going to need that pimp.Thanks for info. Not that I was going to partake but I am surprised they asked for that much $ upfront with no play and an experienced monger like you gave in. And if no play that you still think pimp is involved. Sucks.

Somehaole
02-04-12, 19:16
Just to throw this out there. I've been to see the other one. Melody. Several times. Every time was a great experience. Did not ask for money up front, good massage, and very nice HJ. I did NOT get the impression anything else was on the menu. Never any discussion of money and I left her standard amount.

I don't know about a "pimp." Some black dude was talking loud downstairs, but she said it was her landlord and was always making noise. Who knows.

The point is, she is very sweet, very nice, and I had a great time with her each time I went. I can't comment on Sherry since I haven't even seen her.

Melody is probably late 20s I guess. I'm terrible with the ages of Asian women.

I will say this, I suspect it might be a YMMV situation. She said she has had some bad experiences with guys. So, relax, treat her nice and you will have a good time.


http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-sisters-sherry-21yr-and-melody-23yr-cutie-ever-23/3159075

The top pic of the girl with the tat on her pooch is real and is Sherry (also uses other names probably to tell who is who when she looks for posts).

YMMV, however:

As you can see, she is not Grade A material, yet wants 200 (60 + 140) upfront. Claimed she would give 'everything' but then only does a massage, and teases with no play. She is definitely not "21"; late 30's to mid 40's is more like it.

I was angry and she then offered HJ, but her nails kept poking the sac and I'm not a HJ fan anyway so I stopped her.

Nan is not fresh either and smelled. Avoid this one. As indicated in the ad, there are other girls but they seemed like they should maybe not be in the 'men' business. They offer hiring more than one girl and if not, the others 'take a walk'. They have multiple aliases as well, so if one does partake it would probably be simpler to just pick on the spot.

Another good example of why Not to pay upfront. I only stayed because I went through some effort to make it there, and I happen to like Chinese women. Will not repeat there, though.

The place (a small studio) is right above a drinking spot so it is not very discreet, for those concerned about a "walk of shame". Also, a little birdie told me they have a big black pimp lurking downstairs, but I didn't see him anywhere and there was no place to hide in the apartment. If they keep ripping guys off, eventually they're going to need that pimp.

Ocolumbo
02-05-12, 00:11
Just to throw this out there. I've been to see the other one. Melody. Several times. Every time was a great experience. Did not ask for money up front, good massage, and very nice HJ. I did NOT get the impression anything else was on the menu. Never any discussion of money and I left her standard amount.

I don't know about a "pimp." Some black dude was talking loud downstairs, but she said it was her landlord and was always making noise. Who knows.

The point is, she is very sweet, very nice, and I had a great time with her each time I went. I can't comment on Sherry since I haven't even seen her.

Melody is probably late 20s I guess. I'm terrible with the ages of Asian women.

I will say this, I suspect it might be a YMMV situation. She said she has had some bad experiences with guys. So, relax, treat her nice and you will have a good time.Sorry, I have no empathy. Less chance for bad experience with guys if you are either totally legit or FS is unequivically avialable. It is the grey, twilight zone that seems to be prevalent on the AMPs on the mainland that cause tension and confusion. Is there or is there not HE? What kind? How much? If this is the norm on the mainland, it is not in Honolulu. So why inject this bull shit confusion in Honolulu anymore than there should be? Especially if her partner has been reported to have quoted FS price and asked for it upfront, and cannot deliver? The fucking nerve. I would have been more than pissed. I would have insisted on money back. That is why I don't bother with the MT places. If you cannot take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Bad experiences with guys is the cost of doing business, this kind of business, the kind of business that is full of lies and smoke and mirrors. These two should fucking get out of town.

H Mobius
02-05-12, 00:33
Just to throw this out there. I've been to see the other one. Melody. Several times. Every time was a great experience. Did not ask for money up front, good massage, and very nice HJ. I did NOT get the impression anything else was on the menu. Never any discussion of money and I left her standard amount.

I don't know about a "pimp." Some black dude was talking loud downstairs, but she said it was her landlord and was always making noise. Who knows.

The point is, she is very sweet, very nice, and I had a great time with her each time I went. I can't comment on Sherry since I haven't even seen her.

Melody is probably late 20s I guess. I'm terrible with the ages of Asian women.

I will say this, I suspect it might be a YMMV situation. She said she has had some bad experiences with guys. So, relax, treat her nice and you will have a good time.I forgot to mention that Sherry was naked (so was I) and she had me on top of her on the table. At such a point, I find it hard to Not engage in sex :).

They have a few girls BTW, so that some can handle the outcalls while a couple stay available for incalls. There was a young girl who appeared 25 at most named Lily (according to Sherry) but when I later said 'Hi Lily' she said that wasn't her name.

I like that most asian women age well. It can be hard to tell. I know a girl who is 47 but only looks 32.

Ocolumbo
02-05-12, 00:41
I forgot to mention that Sherry was naked (so was I) and she had me on top of her on the table. At such a point, I find it hard to Not engage in sex.

They have a few girls BTW, so that some can handle the outcalls while a couple stay available for incalls. There was a young girl who appeared 25 at most named Lily (according to Sherry) but when I later said 'Hi Lily' she said that wasn't her name.

I like that most asian women age well. It can be hard to tell. I know a girl who is 47 but only looks 32.Excuse me? You were about to do mish and she backed out after taking your money up front? What?

H Mobius
02-05-12, 17:05
Excuse me? You were about to do mish and she backed out after taking your money up front? What?Yes, once she had the money she only wanted me to lie down and do the massage. She was more or less agreeable to taking her clothes off, being lifted and placed on the table, and having me on top of her. I was between her legs when she would not allow insertion. At least she protested in a somewhat playful rather than dramatic way.

I'm not a troublemaker and am pretty even-tempered, but even I was fighting the urge to grab back my money out of her shorts that were laying on the side when she declared no sex. I didn't want things to escalate because I do NOT like to get angry.

Again, a good example of why to not pay first, and why it makes it harder for other girls with 'legitimate reasons' (already discussed at length in the other thread) to get paid first. I normally walk when a girl asks for money first no matter how she may try to justify it, but again since I made it there I tried her out.

Ocolumbo
02-05-12, 17:37
Yes, once she had the money she only wanted me to lie down and do the massage. She was more or less agreeable to taking her clothes off, being lifted and placed on the table, and having me on top of her. I was between her legs when she would not allow insertion. At least she protested in a somewhat playful rather than dramatic way.

I'm not a troublemaker and am pretty even-tempered, but even I was fighting the urge to grab back my money out of her shorts that were laying on the side when she declared no sex. I didn't want things to escalate because I do NOT like to get angry.

Again, a good example of why to not pay first, and why it makes it harder for other girls with 'legitimate reasons' (already discussed at length in the other thread) to get paid first. I normally walk when a girl asks for money first no matter how she may try to justify it, but again since I made it there I tried her out.Bro, I know what you mean. Getting angry or getting confrontational is not pleasant. Worse if you have a tendancy to be passive. Aggressive. Then confrontation, when it happens, tend to get out of control, meaning little things blow up much bigger than they should because you have held back in the past. Seems like you are a nonconfrontational person and you took the high road. But the result of not asking for your money back, or a big chunk of it, is that you are smarting from the experience. You know you should have done something differently. You scold yourself for paying up front, and you scold yourself for not having some money back. You scold yourself for being ripped off.

I am sorry but I don't give this Sherry the benefit of the doubt. And it has nothing to do with her being Chinese. She asked for money up front, not just HJ HE money but what everybody knows to be FS price, and then back out at the last second? It is bull shit. It seems premeditated. She is lucky the customer was you.

H Mobius
02-06-12, 05:37
Bro, I know what you mean. Getting angry or getting confrontational is not pleasant. Worse if you have a tendancy to be passive. Aggressive. Then confrontation, when it happens, tend to get out of control, meaning little things blow up much bigger than they should because you have held back in the past. Seems like you are a nonconfrontational person and you took the high road. But the result of not asking for your money back, or a big chunk of it, is that you are smarting from the experience. You know you should have done something differently. You scold yourself for paying up front, and you scold yourself for not having some money back. You scold yourself for being ripped off.

I am sorry but I don't give this Sherry the benefit of the doubt. And it has nothing to do with her being Chinese. She asked for money up front, not just HJ HE money but what everybody knows to be FS price, and then back out at the last second? It is bull shit. It seems premeditated. She is lucky the customer was you.Yeah kind of. I avoid confrontation because like I said I do not like to get angry; I won't elaborate on that. Pretty much all a hooker has to do is say No when a guy asks for money back, and hope he's not the type to attack (as that is a very maddening experience). It's a ripoff but I chose to stay and break my own rule, so I knew the risk.

One time I did have to yell at the girl to get my money back was at Milky Way. Some local girl ms sent. Was too blatant; she wouldn't even get undressed or do anything at all. I had to raise my voice to get through to her. In Sherry's case, she did just about everything except allow insertion so that may have affected what happened.

Anyway, they read this Forum and as Somehaole said, the other girl was just fine but if even one monger can avoid wasting money then this thread came in handy.

Hawaiian Nono
02-09-12, 03:39
http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-sisters-sherry-21yr-and-melody-23yr-cutie-ever-23/3159075

The top pic of the girl with the tat on her pooch is real and is Sherry (also uses other names probably to tell who is who when she looks for posts).

YMMV, however:

As you can see, she is not Grade A material, yet wants 200 (60 + 140) upfront. Claimed she would give 'everything' but then only does a massage, and teases with no play. She is definitely not "21"; late 30's to mid 40's is more like it.

I was angry and she then offered HJ, but her nails kept poking the sac and I'm not a HJ fan anyway so I stopped her.

Nan is not fresh either and smelled. Avoid this one. As indicated in the ad, there are other girls but they seemed like they should maybe not be in the 'men' business. They offer hiring more than one girl and if not, the others 'take a walk'. They have multiple aliases as well, so if one does partake it would probably be simpler to just pick on the spot.

Another good example of why Not to pay upfront. I only stayed because I went through some effort to make it there, and I happen to like Chinese women. Will not repeat there, though.

The place (a small studio) is right above a drinking spot so it is not very discreet, for those concerned about a "walk of shame". Also, a little birdie told me they have a big black pimp lurking downstairs, but I didn't see him anywhere and there was no place to hide in the apartment. If they keep ripping guys off, eventually they're going to need that pimp.Thanks for the post. Posting rip offs is the best way to get rid of these crooks. They can prey on anyone, but exposing them helps everyone else avoid them.

Phreekstyle
02-13-12, 08:27
Aloha gents,

Just need to post about a ROB of a KBG. Recently sat with SamanthaatClub Secret (next to Moonflower and Camelot) chick drinks HELLA FAST had them changing out her drink in 5 minutes or less. I shoulda known then but I was thinking with the little head and not the big one as she was grabbing Jr through my pants and telling me how much she likes me and how she wants to make me cum. So $$$.2 later she asks me if I wanted to go into "the room" at this point she is asking me as I am knuckle deep in her vagina (she put it there, not me.) so like a F*cking Sucker I say "Yes."

"the Room" costs me another $$$$$ at this point I'm spiraling out of control and I BETTER get some FS on this transaction or I'm going to be pissed. Once in the room she proceeds to suck on JR for about a minute, then gets a drink, then does something else, and then looks at her drink and says "oh no. I need more to drink." and mind you in "the room" the drinks are now $ a pop. And like a dumbass I say ". Sure." so $$$$ later I finally give up and woner when the hell are we going to F#ck. As I ask her this the whole situation turns sour and now all I'm about is SEX SEX SEX in her mind thats all I'm thinking about.

Now its more of an argument with your GF. And its such a turn on when you argue and try to bed a girl. At this point I am walking away after paying someone's mortgage but with a word of warning. If you ever go to secret and see a brown haired girl with blonde highlights and a tribal band tattoo on her right arm. If she's about 5' nothing and has nice full A's. RUN as fast as you can in the other direction! Your wallet will appreciate it. Posting this in the Korean Bar section as well.

-Phreek

Secret Agent
02-13-12, 22:53
Aloha gents,

Just need to post about a ROB of a KBG. Recently sat with SamanthaatClub Secret (next to Moonflower and Camelot) chick drinks HELLA FAST had them changing out her drink in 5 minutes or less. I shoulda known then but I was thinking with the little head and not the big one as she was grabbing Jr through my pants and telling me how much she likes me and how she wants to make me cum. So $$$.2 later she asks me if I wanted to go into "the room" at this point she is asking me as I am knuckle deep in her vagina (she put it there, not me.) so like a F*cking Sucker I say "Yes."

"the Room" costs me another $$$$$ at this point I'm spiraling out of control and I BETTER get some FS on this transaction or I'm going to be pissed. Once in the room she proceeds to suck on JR for about a minute, then gets a drink, then does something else, and then looks at her drink and says "oh no. I need more to drink." and mind you in "the room" the drinks are now $ a pop. And like a dumbass I say ". Sure." so $$$$ later I finally give up and woner when the hell are we going to F#ck. As I ask her this the whole situation turns sour and now all I'm about is SEX SEX SEX in her mind thats all I'm thinking about.

Now its more of an argument with your GF. And its such a turn on when you argue and try to bed a girl. At this point I am walking away after paying someone's mortgage but with a word of warning. If you ever go to secret and see a brown haired girl with blonde highlights and a tribal band tattoo on her right arm. If she's about 5' nothing and has nice full A's. RUN as fast as you can in the other direction! Your wallet will appreciate it. Posting this in the Korean Bar section as well.

-PhreekPretty sure she's a VBG not KBG from New Orleans if it's the one I'm thinking of. Sorry to hear that shit happen to you man.

Lip Licker
02-13-12, 23:25
If you ever go to secret and see a brown haired girl with blonde highlights and a tribal band tattoo on her right arm. If she's about 5' nothing and has nice full A's. RUN as fast as you can in the other direction!

-PhreekSorry you had to experience this firsthand. Unfortunately, this is pretty common in the KB world, especially the closer the bar is to Koreamoku, the higher the chance of them really milking your. Wallet. I think many who have frequented a KB have a simlar story. Chalk it up to a lesson hard learned and move on. These days, when I go to a KB / VB I expect the girls to BS me so I don't have as much of a problem with saying "no" to buying more drinks and kicking the girl out of the booth or leaving if she's chugging them down as fast as possible. I liken these bars to a more intimate strip club type of experience and don't expect to get FS.

I've had my share of bad ROB experiences, though luckily I didn't lose more than $$$ and my situation was far more dangerous.

Forgive my ignorance, but what do you consider a "full A" cup? To me, A cup girls don't really need to wear bras as there isn't anything to really support.

Member 69
02-14-12, 05:14
Phreek, unfortunately what you experienced is what normally goes on in the vb's. The girls will get you all hot and turned on so you keep spending money. Sometimes you get lucky and get FS all the way, other times you get a lame excuse and no completion. If you don't watch out it can happen at secret or sandy's. This isn't as likely at a kb because the girl won't be as aggressive and forthcoming in the main area as in the vb's. In your situation the guy is too embarrassed and hopes that the girl will at least finish him, that's why he keeps spending.

Your situation isn't only with Sam, most of the v girls will pull the same stunt if they think they can get away with it. If you read the various vb posts you can find Lily is another popular ROB, she moved to Sandy's to get away from her ROB rep.

Live and learn, many of us had to go through the same thing before we realized we were getting scammed. In your case the dead giveaway was spending $$$ before going to the rooms, IMHO if I wasn't getting a HJ after $.2 I would have walked. I normally expect that after. 6 or. 8. Another thing, before you go to the room, you should fully negotiate with the girl, agree on a price to get a specific service and tell the girl that is all you are willing to spend. The girls will keep the scam going to keep you spending money, that is the giveaway that the whole situation was just a big rip off. Do the girls care? No, they have no conscience, that is also one of the reasons that the vb's are still open, too many "suckers" that spend money. They know about these sites and that posters are talking about them but they still pull off these scams to unsuspecting guys, then laugh to others how they found a guy to pull off the scam.

If this just happenned, you could also just complain to your cc company to get the charged wiped (that is if you don't expect to go there again). For me that wouldn't have happenned because I would have stopped it at $$$$$, If you're going to spend that much you may as well go to an AMP and get guaranteed FS.

Uki Eater
02-14-12, 13:10
Aloha gents,

Just need to post about a ROB of a KBG. Recently sat with SamanthaatClub Secret (next to Moonflower and Camelot) chick drinks HELLA FAST had them changing out her drink in 5 minutes or less. I shoulda known then but I was thinking with the little head and not the big one as she was grabbing Jr through my pants and telling me how much she likes me and how she wants to make me cum. So $$$.2 later she asks me if I wanted to go into "the room" at this point she is asking me as I am knuckle deep in her vagina (she put it there, not me.) so like a F*cking Sucker I say "Yes."

"the Room" costs me another $$$$$ at this point I'm spiraling out of control and I BETTER get some FS on this transaction or I'm going to be pissed. Once in the room she proceeds to suck on JR for about a minute, then gets a drink, then does something else, and then looks at her drink and says "oh no. I need more to drink." and mind you in "the room" the drinks are now $ a pop. And like a dumbass I say ". Sure." so $$$$ later I finally give up and woner when the hell are we going to F#ck. As I ask her this the whole situation turns sour and now all I'm about is SEX SEX SEX in her mind thats all I'm thinking about.

Now its more of an argument with your GF. And its such a turn on when you argue and try to bed a girl. At this point I am walking away after paying someone's mortgage but with a word of warning. If you ever go to secret and see a brown haired girl with blonde highlights and a tribal band tattoo on her right arm. If she's about 5' nothing and has nice full A's. RUN as fast as you can in the other direction! Your wallet will appreciate it. Posting this in the Korean Bar section as well.

-PhreekI'm surprised you allowed this to happen. I remember your posting of going BR with Momi at Camels before.

Hypo Luxa
02-14-12, 15:50
I think going in with this knowledge would lend itself to a bit of fun. Sit with Samantha and be the tightest tight-wad you can be. Buy her one drink, then MAUL her. Get everything you can. When the dude comes by asking about another, order another one, then excuse yourself to the cash machine, but in actuality, LEAVE!

Seriously dude, I've never heard of anyone being taken for as much as you listed. You got some balls to let everyone here know, that's for sure. Way to put the brothers here in front of your own embarrassment of admitting what happened. Worst I ever got taken for was $300. But even then, I got a quickie BJ and FS after threatening to go postal.

Phreekstyle
02-14-12, 15:57
I think going in with this knowledge would lend itself to a bit of fun. Sit with Samantha and be the tightest tight-wad you can be. Buy her one drink, then MAUL her. Get everything you can. When the dude comes by asking about another, order another one, then excuse yourself to the cash machine, but in actuality, LEAVE!

Seriously dude, I've never heard of anyone being taken for as much as you listed. You got some balls to let everyone here know, that's for sure. Way to put the brothers here in front of your own embarrassment of admitting what happened. Worst I ever got taken for was $300. But even then, I got a quickie BJ and FS after threatening to go postal.For me, its not about the money. I like the thrill of the chase and knowing just how far I can get with a girl for x amount of dollars. I'll make the money back, but how often do I get the chance to have sex with a beautiful girl that is definately out of my league? This is why I work so hard to make that money anyways. But if I run into a girl that will not deliver what is implicitly promised. I will DEFINATELY let my fellow mongers know so that they can avoid the trouble that I had been through. It's like paddling past a great white and not letting the other surfers know, I can't have that on my concience.

Member #4472
02-14-12, 16:31
Aloha gents,

Just need to post about a ROB of a KBG. Recently sat with SamanthaatClub Secret (next to Moonflower and Camelot) chick drinks HELLA FAST had them changing out her drink in 5 minutes or less. I shoulda known then but I was thinking with the little head and not the big one as she was grabbing Jr through my pants and telling me how much she likes me and how she wants to make me cum. So $$$.2 later she asks me if I wanted to go into "the room" at this point she is asking me as I am knuckle deep in her vagina (she put it there, not me.) so like a F*cking Sucker I say "Yes."

"the Room" costs me another $$$$$ at this point I'm spiraling out of control and I BETTER get some FS on this transaction or I'm going to be pissed. Once in the room she proceeds to suck on JR for about a minute, then gets a drink, then does something else, and then looks at her drink and says "oh no. I need more to drink." and mind you in "the room" the drinks are now $ a pop. And like a dumbass I say ". Sure." so $$$$ later I finally give up and woner when the hell are we going to F#ck. As I ask her this the whole situation turns sour and now all I'm about is SEX SEX SEX in her mind thats all I'm thinking about.

Now its more of an argument with your GF. And its such a turn on when you argue and try to bed a girl. At this point I am walking away after paying someone's mortgage but with a word of warning. If you ever go to secret and see a brown haired girl with blonde highlights and a tribal band tattoo on her right arm. If she's about 5' nothing and has nice full A's. RUN as fast as you can in the other direction! Your wallet will appreciate it. Posting this in the Korean Bar section as well.

-PhreekOver 1K and no nani? You have definitely made it into the suckers hall of fame. Not teasing you, been there myself. So have many others.

But you just got what every guy who goes into a KB gets. Screwed.

Take your money elsewhere. You will be much more happy in the end.

Mipene77
02-14-12, 21:04
Over 1K and no nani? You have definitely made it into the suckers hall of fame. Not teasing you, been there myself. So have many others.

But you just got what every guy who goes into a KB gets. Screwed.

Take your money elsewhere. You will be much more happy in the end.One of these days one of these KBG are going to rip off the wrong guy and find themselves badly beaten or maybe even killed for pulling crap like that. I think I remember reading a few reports a couple of years ago about a KBG being shot or something because she pissed off a customer. Of course it is ultimately the customers fault for letting themselves get ripped off. Many many years ago I got ripped off once (and I do repeat once). I never got ripped off since then. It took me only one time to learn. Thank God I was able to make the money back in one or two trades but the psychological damage was very long lasting. I think at that point I graduated from amateur to professional. But yea I feel for the dude. I am sure a lot of us have been in his situation. Just don't let it happen again!

Lowlys One
02-15-12, 01:22
For me, its not about the money. I like the thrill of the chase and knowing just how far I can get with a girl for x amount of dollars. I'll make the money back, but how often do I get the chance to have sex with a beautiful girl that is definately out of my league? This is why I work so hard to make that money anyways. But if I run into a girl that will not deliver what is implicitly promised. I will DEFINATELY let my fellow mongers know so that they can avoid the trouble that I had been through. It's like paddling past a great white and not letting the other surfers know, I can't have that on my concience.Hey Phreekstyle, first the mililani gals then this, and I say this to be constructive to you, but what you said up above about it not being about the money, therein lies the problem, if you fling the cash around long enough with that attitude they will pick up that vibe and sayonara you going get ripped again and again, sure its good to be seen as one with cash but there will always be the ones who will take advantage. You know that. To much cash up front with what, a promise. Maybe? You got to change the that outlook else it'll happen again, they will see it plain as day!

Incogfilipino
02-15-12, 01:34
I've met that Samantha girl at Secret before also. She drinks like a fish. Don't waste time with that one.

Phreekstyle
02-15-12, 06:29
Hey Phreekstyle, first the mililani gals then this, and I say this to be constructive to you, but what you said up above about it not being about the money, therein lies the problem, if you fling the cash around long enough with that attitude they will pick up that vibe and sayonara you going get ripped again and again, sure its good to be seen as one with cash but there will always be the ones who will take advantage. You know that. To much cash up front with what, a promise. Maybe? You got to change the that outlook else it'll happen again, they will see it plain as day!Good point. But what good is having a pile of money if all you're going to do is stay at home and sit on it? If the world ended one day this year I would have thought that I should have used that money to experience something awesome. Like having sex with Mariko from Diamond Club. I know that is a well traveled road, but I would not mind being one of the members of that club. Now that I think of it, I think I would be a millionaire if I wasn't so fricken horny all the damn time.

Ocolumbo
02-20-12, 18:20
Good point. But what good is having a pile of money if all you're going to do is stay at home and sit on it? If the world ended one day this year I would have thought that I should have used that money to experience something awesome. Like having sex with Mariko from Diamond Club. I know that is a well traveled road, but I would not mind being one of the members of that club. Now that I think of it, I think I would be a millionaire if I wasn't so fricken horny all the damn time.Even if you are loaded, why spend so much on the pursuit of one woman who may or may not deliver? You could have spent the amount over a week on a number of very attractive women at the AMPs with guaranteed results. I do not go to the bars with play and I am not trying to knock these bars and everyone who goes for drink and fun. I just don't drink much anymore and even when I used to I did not go. But I understand how the chase would be appealing to many. Still, there must be some kind of common sense limit or ceiling on how much to fork over at the bars for whatever service. Anyway, sorry if I offend you but just my 2 cents.

OMG, who am I to talk? I will never be one of these LVBs mocked in the Korean Bar threads, but I most certainly qualify as its version at the AMPs. Maybe the most pathetic LVB at the AMPs in 2011. Shit, someone save me!

Uki Eater
02-21-12, 02:23
Even if you are loaded, why spend so much on the pursuit of one woman who may or may not deliver? You could have spent the amount over a week on a number of very attractive women at the AMPs with guaranteed results. I do not go to the bars with play and I am not trying to knock these bars and everyone who goes for drink and fun. I just don't drink much anymore and even when I used to I did not go. But I understand how the chase would be appealing to many. Still, there must be some kind of common sense limit or ceiling on how much to fork over at the bars for whatever service. Anyway, sorry if I offend you but just my 2 cents.

OMG, who am I to talk? I will never be one of these LVBs mocked in the Korean Bar threads, but I most certainly qualify as its version at the AMPs. Maybe the most pathetic LVB at the AMPs in 2011. Shit, someone save me!I think its the fact that anyone can go to an AMP with $$ and get FS. Well, most guys anyway. So, to them, its nothing much to brag about vs doing a BG at a KB. With a BG at a bar, you can say to yourself and to others.

"You see that BG over there, I had her. Yup, that one over there sitting at the booth in white"

"No shit? How much was?

"Uhmmmm. I rather not say"

LOL.

I guess for some, they need the mental stimulation to get themselves aroused first.

Oldee
02-21-12, 06:19
I think its the fact that anyone can go to an AMP with $$ and get FS. Well, most guys anyway. So, to them, its nothing much to brag about vs doing a BG at a KB. With a BG at a bar, you can say to yourself and to others.

"You see that BG over there, I had her. Yup, that one over there sitting at the booth in white"

"No shit? How much was?

"Uhmmmm. I rather not say"

LOL.

I guess for some, they need the mental stimulation to get themselves aroused first.Thanks for the young guy perspective Uki bro. For old futs and others, the combination of no can say no, horny and drunk often leads to the so called ripoff, hehe. Its NOT UNUSUAL and happens all the time. Most guys shame post they got robbed.

Uki Eater
02-21-12, 06:50
Thanks for the young guy perspective Uki bro. For old futs and others, the combination of no can say no, horny and drunk often leads to the so called ripoff, hehe. Its NOT UNUSUAL and happens all the time. Most guys shame post they got robbed.Yeah. That's true. When someone gets aroused by a BG in a bar, he wants to be finished off by that same person who got him aroused. The idea of walking out of the bar to an AMP with a full on boner may take to long. He's going to have to cross the street to PT, VIP or Ichibans. More worse he don't see anyone he's attracted to and he's just oozing so much jizz in his pants already. Plus, Sakuras is no longer around the corner, what is Phreekstyle to do? Run across Sheridan St and run across Keeaumoku Street to get ticketed for J walking and cum across the street thus possibly causing an accident? He might as well stay where he is and blow 1k at Secrets. LoL.

RadioHazard
03-01-12, 16:09
I once I did the opposite. I am not really a KBG.

Some friend who is big on KB wanted to meet up on shit can't remember sheridan KB. Tons of hotties there at the time T-time. Got there early so I went to Sakura got Yuri who worked me and than went to the KB. One of those kB trips where your friend is paying. So anyway the KBG is playing with my dick and it could not get it hard has I had just dropped a big load 10 min prior. She looked kinda surprised that I was not aroused. Told her she had to suck it first to get me hard. Kinda fun fucking with the KBG when your not horny. After a few rounds my I convince my friend to go to sakura. Where we I had round with ivy and he had Yuri. He paid for everything. Miss that guy.


Yeah. That's true. When someone gets aroused by a BG in a bar, he wants to be finished off by that same person who got him aroused. The idea of walking out of the bar to an AMP with a full on boner may take to long. He's going to have to cross the street to PT, VIP or Ichibans. More worse he don't see anyone he's attracted to and he's just oozing so much jizz in his pants already. Plus, Sakuras is no longer around the corner, what is Phreekstyle to do? Run across Sheridan St and run across Keeaumoku Street to get ticketed for J walking and cum across the street thus possibly causing an accident? He might as well stay where he is and blow 1k at Secrets. LoL.

Ck813
03-09-12, 14:10
Han of rocc-za has to be by far the rip off queen of the state. Ship her back!

Lenlow6
03-09-12, 20:15
Han of rocc-za has to be by far the rip off queen of the state. Ship her back!Whoa! What brought that on?

Little Dickie
03-10-12, 03:33
Check his posts on the strip club forum. Specifically # 2349 (and a bunch of follow ups)


Whoa! What brought that on?

Blake123
03-10-12, 04:01
Han of rocc-za has to be by far the rip off queen of the state. Ship her back!
Whoa! What brought that on?He explained it in the Strip Club Reports thread.

Lenlow6
03-10-12, 04:59
He explained it in the Strip Club Reports thread.Ah so I must have missed it. I thought it was one of those "the grapes must be sour" types of things.

Ck813
03-11-12, 04:08
I have been on this forum for about 4-6 yrs now. I never really wanted to put anyone on this list but its time I put everyone that I know on here.

Sarah, Dana and their oldest sister from the old Romantei.

Sheleen and Kim from the old Romantei.

Teri from Maya's and I think her name was Candy.

Koko / Michelle from Camelot Asia.

The worst was Kim, the sisters, Teri, then Sheleen. Koko too but she did play.

That is all I can think of for now. There is more just can't remember them all.

And for Lenlow6 I do not understand you because almost all your post are questions. Can you tell me what brought on your comment?

CK!

Lenlow6
03-11-12, 13:40
I have been on this forum for about 4-6 yrs now. I never really wanted to put anyone on this list but its time I put everyone that I know on here.

Sarah, Dana and their oldest sister from the old Romantei.

Sheleen and Kim from the old Romantei.

Teri from Maya's and I think her name was Candy.

Koko / Michelle from Camelot Asia.

The worst was Kim, the sisters, Teri, then Sheleen. Koko too but she did play.

That is all I can think of for now. There is more just can't remember them all.

And for Lenlow6 I do not understand you because almost all your post are questions. Can you tell me what brought on your comment?

CK!Sorry if I offended you. I was just wondering why someone would be the worst rip off?

Ck813
03-11-12, 21:36
Bra. No sorry needed. That is just my opinion. We all entitled to our opinions. I never knew about this forum until Dana sara and the rest helped cleaned my bank account.

Essenitially I am responsible for all my money but lies fake promises come ons etc is why I feel these people are robs ripoffs etc. Boy can I tell you stories. I blew about 250, 000 in 2-3 years.

CK.


Sorry if I offended you. I was just wondering why someone would be the worst rip off?

Jake1213
04-04-12, 18:09
I have been on this forum for about 4-6 yrs now. I never really wanted to put anyone on this list but its time I put everyone that I know on here.

Sarah, Dana and their oldest sister from the old Romantei.

Sheleen and Kim from the old Romantei.

Teri from Maya's and I think her name was Candy.

Koko / Michelle from Camelot Asia.

The worst was Kim, the sisters, Teri, then Sheleen. Koko too but she did play.

That is all I can think of for now. There is more just can't remember them all.

And for Lenlow6 I do not understand you because almost all your post are questions. Can you tell me what brought on your comment?

CK!Let me tell you of the biggest ripoff is Bobbie at Tomorrow. I have been around for years and these new kb girls are vicious. Now the bars are slow so guys should take control of the situation... that bull shit shot glass drinks should not happen. The korean guys make the girls drink bottle beer and they do. But the local guys just fold over and let them drink whatever they want. watered down bottles etc. Bobby is relatively new and acts like a pro with her robber partner Lily. Two weeks ago a friend of mine came in from the big island and I watched in amazement how dumb my friend was. Letting those two bitches rape his wallet with his eyes shut as well as his brains.

Bobbis is a skinny bony ***** and guys are dumb enough to let this happen to them. I spoke to my friend after and he realize how stupid he was. Bars are slow and girls are slower yet so take control of the situation and enjoy seeing these girls suffer,they deserve it, but I guess there will always be fools that let the girls run all over them. These girls cannot wait for one of their fools to leave so another can take his place. Look around and see it is very entertaining. Maybe these guys did not have many girls growing up and get caught up with all the bull these girls dish out. I just lov this slow era in the bars...the past is the past and will never happen again...girls now day have no respect for the customers or the establishment that they work for....money rules and run their lives.

Member #4713
04-04-12, 18:23
Let me tell you of the biggest ripoff is Bobbie at Tomorrow. I have been around for years and these new kb girls are vicious. Now the bars are slow so guys should take control of the situation, that bull shit shot glass drinks should not happen. The korean guys make the girls drink bottle beer and they do. But the local guys just fold over and let them drink whatever they want. Watered down bottles etc. Bobby is rrelatively new and acts like a pro with her robber partner Lily. Two weeks ago a friend of mine came in from the big island and I watched in amazement how dumb my friend was. Letting those two bitches rape him with his eyes shut as well as his brains.

Bobbis is a skinny bony * and guys are dumb enough to let this happen to them. I spoke to my friend after and he realize how stupid he was. Bars are slow and girls are slower yet so take control of the situation and enjoy seeing these girls suffer. They deserve it, but I guess there will always be fools that let the girls run all over them. These girls cannot wait for one of there fools to leave so another can take his place. Look around and see it is very entertaining. Maybe these guys did not have many girls growing up and get caught up with all the bull thewe girls dish out.Your friend is not dumb unless he's experienced and still let it happen. Tell him to read this site, especially the tactics thread, before he goes to a KB again. I agree that most of those KBG's are vicious, but why didn't you put a stop to it and help your friend out at the time instead of waiting until after? I'm guessing your friend was probably too worked up to listen, but at that point just cut the KBG's loose and take your friend to an AMP if need be.

H Mobius
04-04-12, 19:44
Let me tell you of the biggest ripoff is Bobbie at Tomorrow.

Bobbi is a skinny bony *****.This is the surest way to identify her. What's even worse is if mama Yujin comes and tag-teams with her. I sat with Bobbi a couple of times but she hops tables way too much so I dropped her. If Yujin allowed tit play/sucking, wouldn't be too bad, but 'All Show No Go' doesn't work for me, not with all the fun Chinese girls.

No body, no ass, no tits, no play; no sense. Oldee, can you make that into a T-shirt?

Oldee
04-04-12, 20:39
This is the surest way to identify her. What's even worse is if mama Yujin comes and tag-teams with her. I sat with Bobbi a couple of times but she hops tables way too much so I dropped her. If Yujin allowed tit play / sucking, wouldn't be too bad, but 'All Show No Go' doesn't work for me, not with all the fun Chinese girls.

No body, no ass, no tits, no play; no sense. Oldee, can you make that into a T-shirt?CC is slightly more due to handling / misc fee. 300dolla. If cash 40dolla. Standard KB markups. I have reported that Tommorrow is a LVB LOVELAND bar. Maybe some guys didn't understand that I should have named that bar ROB CITY 1. Keep in mind there are more than 1 of these type KBs in town.

Werd0001
05-13-12, 04:41
Beware of mother and daughter team at sunset lounge in waipahu. They got lots of LVB to leech off of. Just listening to the bar girls talk crap with one another is quite entertaining. Daughter needs a boob job and doesn't allow any play. While the mother wants to get another rack. She does play but has lots of LVB full of drama. I ve seen victims get tagged team don't fall for their trap. Don't Pay for a rack that some one else will play with.

Hunter808
05-15-12, 14:16
Beware of mother and daughter team at sunset lounge in waipahu. They got lots of LVB to leech off of. Just listening to the bar girls talk crap with one another is quite entertaining. Daughter needs a boob job and doesn't allow any play. While the mother wants to get another rack. She does play but has lots of LVB full of drama. I ve seen victims get tagged team don't fall for their trap. Don't Pay for a rack that some one else will play with.Also be careful with Char she is a ROB and some customer complain that they lose some money while sitting right next to her.

Belot Eater
05-15-12, 22:32
Beware of mother and daughter team at sunset lounge in waipahu. They got lots of LVB to leech off of. Just listening to the bar girls talk crap with one another is quite entertaining. Daughter needs a boob job and doesn't allow any play. While the mother wants to get another rack. She does play but has lots of LVB full of drama. I ve seen victims get tagged team don't fall for their trap. Don't Pay for a rack that some one else will play with.Are they hot, I don't mind given it a shot. This place is by Jack in the Crack right?

Chevy427
05-15-12, 23:46
Are they hot, I don't mind given it a shot. This place is by Jack in the Crack right?Is that the place used to be a Thai bar called Lada's? I remembered have a Thai lady named Noi, heard her daughter is pretty.

Hunter808
05-16-12, 01:04
Are they hot, I don't mind given it a shot. This place is by Jack in the Crack right?The mother look hotter, nicer rack than the daughter. And she married to a LE.

Werd0001
05-16-12, 02:13
Are they hot, I don't mind given it a shot. This place is by Jack in the Crack right?Yes next to jack in the crack. Char is also a rob. Make sure you give exact change or never open a tab with her. Pretty much goes for all of them that work there. No privacy to really play. They offer take out but don't be fooled its just out to eat and shop. I hear so much crap they talk about ripping people off. They speak it ilokano, thinking that others won't understand. They got LVB to buy them cars and house appliances.

Belot Eater
05-16-12, 14:08
Is that the place used to be a Thai bar called Lada's? I remembered have a Thai lady named Noi, heard her daughter is pretty.I never been there, maybe the change the name.

Belot Eater
05-16-12, 14:10
Thanks a lot guy, I guess that's my place to recon this weekend.

Werd0001
05-19-12, 05:28
I never been there, maybe the change the name.Same bar as ladas. Just got lease to a korean. Don't waste time on the daughter she will not play. Her mother is a real vet just got to get her buzzin a little and the legs will open. But if she knows she can take advatage of you she will. So don't be a pushover. She will DFK, HJ let your fingers explore. Most of these bgs are married to LE. Maybe after her daughter has a few upgrades like bolt ons and fixes her nose than her legs will open like her mom. I kinda felt sorry for at first couple guys were saying she was a butter face, and she heard. LOL but these bitches don't think twice robing you. Just don't become a LVB and pay for a rack that you won't be playing with.

Captin Crunch
05-20-12, 13:49
Thanks a lot guy, I guess that's my place to recon this weekend.Dude. Did you go? Anything to report?

Belot Eater
05-20-12, 18:13
Dude. Did you go? Anything to report?Yea check that place out on Friday night. Saw an older lady with tats on her left arm and had bleach hair like Kelly's. I think that could have been that Rob mom. Weed0001 never gave any information on the Robs looks so I'm just guessing that the mom. Don't know who Char is. Met a girl name lian or something like that. Long straight brown hair. I counted 6 girls in there. The one my eyes was set on was that girl j, Jay, or jade. Black hair, red lipstick, big round eyes and the best part small boobies. You know I like them small. Might check that place out again to make sure. Like the others posted hard to get play. To lighted but if you stay at the bar you can play under. Mogo man bring a friend with you if you going there so you no feel out of place. A lot of flip guys sitting at the bar so this must be the lvbs Weed0001 talking about.

Werd0001
05-20-12, 21:16
Yea check that place out on Friday night. Saw an older lady with tats on her left arm and had bleach hair like Kelly's. I think that could have been that Rob mom. Weed0001 never gave any information on the Robs looks so I'm just guessing that the mom. Don't know who Char is. Met a girl name lian or something like that. Long straight brown hair. I counted 6 girls in there. The one my eyes was set on was that girl j, Jay, or jade. Black hair, red lipstick, big round eyes and the best part small boobies. You know I like them small. Might check that place out again to make sure. Like the others posted hard to get play. To lighted but if you stay at the bar you can play under. Mogo man bring a friend with you if you going there so you no feel out of place. A lot of flip guys sitting at the bar so this must be the lvbs Weed0001 talking about.Jade is the daughter. Her mom is lani long brown hair, always with the fake laugh, about a see bolt ons petite girl. In the light obvious crows feet showing. The word from other bar girls is that jade is under age. Its funny when most bar girls introduce them as their neice thats usually code for daughter.

Belot Eater
05-21-12, 03:35
Jade is the daughter. Her mom is lani long brown hair, always with the fake laugh, about a see bolt ons petite girl. In the light obvious crows feet showing. The word from other bar girls is that jade is under age. Its funny when most bar girls introduce them as their neice thats usually code for daughter.Haha! I also found out I have a wild card hehe. I guess I just give town bar a rest and park my ass.

Captin Crunch
05-21-12, 05:40
Yea check that place out on Friday night. Saw an older lady with tats on her left arm and had bleach hair like Kelly's. I think that could have been that Rob mom. Weed0001 never gave any information on the Robs looks so I'm just guessing that the mom. Don't know who Char is. Met a girl name lian or something like that. Long straight brown hair. I counted 6 girls in there. The one my eyes was set on was that girl j, Jay, or jade. Black hair, red lipstick, big round eyes and the best part small boobies. You know I like them small. Might check that place out again to make sure. Like the others posted hard to get play. To lighted but if you stay at the bar you can play under. Mogo man bring a friend with you if you going there so you no feel out of place. A lot of flip guys sitting at the bar so this must be the lvbs Weed0001 talking about.BE. Maybe I go with you.

Member #5092
05-21-12, 08:58
http://hawaii.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/so-skilled-_-so-hot-_-goddamn-those-half-japanese-girls-25/3352533 She told me her name was dream asked$$$ settled for $$.Never asked whats on the menue till it was to late.Gave $$ up front found out it was for a lame massage and a HJ.Bad attitude cronic looking and of corse fake pix stay away from this one.Took another ass whooping for the team.L/A/S 5/3/3.

Belot Eater
05-21-12, 13:32
BE. Maybe I go with you.Yep just let me know, tired of the kgirls already. I think I'll be hanging out here for now and see what's up with jade. hehe . it be fun.

Lowlys One
05-21-12, 19:54
http://hawaii.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/so-skilled-_-so-hot-_-goddamn-those-half-japanese-girls-25/3352533

She told me her name was dream asked$$$ settled for $$. Never asked whats on the menue till it was to late. Gave $$ up front found out it was for a lame massage and a HJ. Bad attitude cronic looking and of corse fake pix stay away from this one. Took another ass whooping for the team. L / A/S 5/3/3.Hey TwoPump808, if you don't mind can you give us a description of Dream (ht, wt, approx. Age, hair color, breast size, ethnicity and whatever) , incall location, no need be specific. Thanks Lowly.

Member #5092
05-21-12, 20:19
Discription 5ft6 130lbs early to mid 20s can't remember hair color but not blond. Breast size saggy small bees 80% haole other20% if you saw her you would never guess she was japanese has a lip stud, over all gothic or grunge druggie look. She came over to me late evening. In and out in less than 30 min.Trys to up sell telling about $$$$$ for the whole evening dont fall for it.HJ only never FS,Trys to get the most amount of money for the least amount of service.

H Mobius
05-21-12, 20:50
Took another ass whooping for the team.L/A/S 5/3/3.Aw man I feel sorry for you man. Sending you a PM. No offense but that sentence really cracked me up.

Blade82
05-21-12, 21:37
Is this the same Dream that use advertise as a japanese student? Her ads would be blurred with pics of a Jidol. If so she had quite a bit of negative reports before. I myself had planned to be stubborn and try her out, but she made things inconvenient. Thabk god, for once the working girl gods were watching over me.

CM0069
05-21-12, 22:59
That ad poster been on for a long while, thought I remember a diff desc long ago, now I'm suspecting it may be a pimp run operation with diff girls down on their luck or possible runaways, which would explain the up sell detached experience, basically the girl is doing it following a script and no interest in your satisfaction, just my opinion. A real Indy provider knows its all inclusive with a $$ range.

Lowlys One
05-21-12, 23:08
Is this the same Dream that use advertise as a japanese student? Her ads would be blurred with pics of a Jidol. If so she had quite a bit of negative reports before. I myself had planned to be stubborn and try her out, but she made things inconvenient. Thabk god, for once the working girl gods were watching over me.Yeah, I to have read those reports but in my case, and this must have been a couple years ago, I gave dream a run but I think her name was a Japanese name at that time but basically same post, pics and number. I experienced a greatly different experience, picture wasn't real but she was a cute Japanese if remember a small see, big be, not a hard body but defineatly feminine, looked like a pretty hot j gal, but she would get into it, even breaking out the toys, not a clock watcher, friendly, horny but I must have did something wrong because I call but she don't pick up, whereas before I'd call and shed answer even if she was in maui, to say when shed be back, maybe I take to long or something, but she was repeatable and I m not one to repeat to often, one thing that does score big for me is service an attitude, she had both. Now to answer your question, the providers who showed up for the two post were different providers, but who knows what we are dealing with. They both may be the work of one outfit in which case it may be possible for the same provider to show up for the two different posts, but in my case it was not the same gal. I know that the Dream that you are asking about works for lizescorts, you can Google her (Liz) website, and is quite possibly the one posting these ads for her.

Member #5092
06-09-12, 16:19
Is this the same Dream that use advertise as a japanese student? Her ads would be blurred with pics of a Jidol. If so she had quite a bit of negative reports before. I myself had planned to be stubborn and try her out, but she made things inconvenient. Thabk god, for once the working girl gods were watching over me.Http://hawaii.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/amazing-beauty-and-service-sexy-half-whiteasian-bombshell-tell-me-how-u-want-it-25/3352533

This is the rip off bro Ezaker and I am talking about. Read Ezakers report in the BP thread and my report in this thread. Guys any ideas on how to screw this bi*#h over. Post or PM with any suggestions.

Sanchito94
06-10-12, 19:36
Is this the same Dream that use advertise as a japanese student? Her ads would be blurred with pics of a Jidol. If so she had quite a bit of negative reports before. I myself had planned to be stubborn and try her out, but she made things inconvenient. Thabk god, for once the working girl gods were watching over me.Hey Blade82,

Judging by the descriptions they give I don't think they are the same. I met with the "Japanese student" dream and had a good time. I'm going to post a review of her on the BP forum in the next few days, but here's the highlights. She is 2nd or 3rd generation Japanese-American (read: doesn't speak Japanese) and was descriptive enough about college that I buy it. Had her come to me, just my preference and stuck to the requests in her ad. Face is about a 6. 5 but the body I'd give 8. 5 to 9. If little asian spinners is your thing you will NOT be disappointed with her physically. Like I said, I'll be posting a full review on the BP forum, but to answer your question, I'm thinking these are two different girls.

Sanchito

Eman007
06-13-12, 14:21
http://hawaii.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/so-skilled-_-so-hot-_-goddamn-those-half-japanese-girls-25/3352533

She told me her name was dream asked$$$ settled for $$. Never asked whats on the menue till it was to late. Gave $$ up front found out it was for a lame massage and a HJ. Bad attitude cronic looking and of corse fake pix stay away from this one. Took another ass whooping for the team. L / A/S 5/3/3.If you like your money avoid her like the plague, you are warned. Suprised her ass hasnt been kicked by the shit this chick pulls, LOL. At least the skinny chick gave FS! This chick is chubby, pastey looking, kakios on her skin and legs, run forrest run, talk about false advertising at it's best!

Two Pump is spot on, lucky he got that.

If your smart you won't need to know anymore. And don't think YMMV because ymwbtsaee."your moment will be the same as everyone else" LMAO.

E

Sanchito94
06-15-12, 23:50
Hey guys,

I'm not fully comfortable giving a bad review, but the truth is this was my worst experience with a provider to date. In light of some of the other posts I've seen on here, I feel lucky to say this was my worst experience, I feel for you guys. I'm also not 100% sure this qualifies as a "rip-off", but I felt ripped off, so here it goes.

I made arrangements to meet this girl when she was calling herself "juicy", she's kind of cute with blonde hair. Met her is the lobby of my hotel and right off the bat I was under impressed. She was wearing a t-shirt that was so big both of us could have fit in it like 3 times over. Her shorts were also big enough that we both could have fit in them and they came down below mid-calf. We get up to the room and chit chat for a little bit, she bitched about her day job, told me the clothes she was wearing were her sisters, nothing really interesting but it went on for close to 20 minutes. We start to undress, she drags her feet and had only taken of her shirt by the time I had everything off. She was wearing a cute little black negligee, and I went over to try to help her disrobe but she kept pushing my hands away. Eventually she took everything off. On the positive, her face was kinda cute and her breast were smallish but shaped well. That was about it. Her overall body was kinda shaped like a hand bell. Thin down to her waist, then ballooned out. Legs were very thick, butt was wide, but not really full, cellulite on her butt and thighs. She also has a very large scar (about 1. 5-2 inches wide, maybe 5-6 inches long) on the back of her left shoulder. We moved to the bed and she begins with a so-so CBJ. After a while of that she jumps up and runs into the bathroom. She was in there close to 10 minutes, saying she was okay the whole time. When she came out she said her contact was hurting her eye and that she had no solution. We get back into the bed, work to get me back to where I was then she climbs on, cg. After a bit of that she jumps off again and back to the bathroom. She says her birth control (mirena I'm guessing) had moved and I was hitting it. I had already given her the $$, I suggested she return $ and we call it a wash. She said no, we should try again. We did, but less than a minute later she's off again, contacts. She started just walking around the room hiding behind stuff then popping out again, talking about nothing, like a kid that was trying to not go to bed. Then out of nowhere she starts getting dressed. I asked what was going on and she said time was up. I said you're going to take the whole $$ for about 5 minutes without a finish? Do you see what's coming? Say it with me,"that was for my "time"." The whole thing was a weird experience that left me dumbfounded. I don't know if anyone else has seen her, I'd be interested to hear about it, but I don't see any way I would ever meet this girl again.

Long I know, believe it or not I trimmed it down. Here's her ad.

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/desierable-mature-skilled-and-ready-4-y0u-n0w-23/3328877

Hope it helps.

S

H Mobius
08-21-12, 01:13
New Chinese girl just started; major ROB and tease. Forget her name, sorry, but she's the only one so can't miss her. Not tall, voluptuous build, fat B's / C's popping out, full thighs and big round booty, practically naked under that short dress, fair skin, speaks English with almost no accent, heavy face and eye makeup, late 20's at least.

MS pushes (pimps) this girl, who insists she enjoys play and leads you to the back booth; there, to only tease, block roaming of any kind, drink fast (< 2 minutes) and pull the 'buy me one more drink then I'll do what I said I was going to do the first time' stunt, whilst proclaiming that she's "shy".

I immediately cut her line (and my losses) and lectured her big ass about what the fuk she was doing. It was my impression she would continue her abusive ways.

Perhaps they should stay out of KBs and stick with CC.

Puinsai808
10-08-12, 01:59
Don't know if she is around. I posted in the DT thread. Avoid the BSW named Koi in DT behind Pali Longs.

RickJames808
10-08-12, 06:44
Nothing wrong with this report at all. You got fucked and not in a good way. This is the way to report a bad provider and any bitterness or animosity you have doesn't come across in the narrative unlike some other psycho mongers (yes you PunkBitch54).

To be honest I couldn't blame you for being bitter about this one. Thanks for warning a brother.

RJ.


Hey guys,

I'm not fully comfortable giving a bad review, but the truth is this was my worst experience with a provider to date. In light of some of the other posts I've seen on here, I feel lucky to say this was my worst experience, I feel for you guys. I'm also not 100% sure this qualifies as a "rip-off", but I felt ripped off, so here it goes.

S

Viet Whisperer
10-09-12, 01:13
Don't know if she is around. I posted in the DT thread. Avoid the BSW named Koi in DT behind Pali Longs.I don't see the post with the details about Khoi anywhere. Just curious to see if she is the same girl who hits me up on the track in Waikiki all the time. She also goes by Kori.

DaaBoy
10-09-12, 16:22
Of course with every situation YMMV, but I did not have a nice time with her. I reported awhile back, but bascially she is a young, asian spinner type, but the downside was the armpit hair. And I'm not just talking stubble. It was borderline Amazon jungle in there. Also she didn't tell me she was on her period til after I was done and saw blood all over my dick. It was funny because after my report I think another monger posted that he saw her after and saw bloody towels all over the bathroom floor. Sorry brah.


Hey Blade82,

Judging by the descriptions they give I don't think they are the same. I met with the "Japanese student" dream and had a good time. I'm going to post a review of her on the BP forum in the next few days, but here's the highlights. She is 2nd or 3rd generation Japanese-American (read: doesn't speak Japanese) and was descriptive enough about college that I buy it. Had her come to me, just my preference and stuck to the requests in her ad. Face is about a 6. 5 but the body I'd give 8. 5 to 9. If little asian spinners is your thing you will NOT be disappointed with her physically. Like I said, I'll be posting a full review on the BP forum, but to answer your question, I'm thinking these are two different girls.

Sanchito

DT Looker
10-10-12, 23:22
Don't know if she is around. I posted in the DT thread. Avoid the BSW named Koi in DT behind Pali Longs.What was bad about your session?

I've had nothing but great ones with her. Her BJ was lacking, but you put down the money for FS and she did her best to make me happy. (Several times.)

Even had anal one time, and it was affordable. I'm just wondering what was lacking so much that you are saying to avoid.


I don't see the post with the details about Khoi anywhere. Just curious to see if she is the same girl who hits me up on the track in Waikiki all the time. She also goes by Kori.

I might be her. She's also on BP, and she's working in Waiks now instead of DT. Been still seeing her for her DT rates... but it could be YMMV.

Michael Scott
10-11-12, 01:51
First off are we talking about the same Koi? BSW, super petite. 5'0".95 lbs. Straight hair?


What was bad about your session?

I've had nothing but great ones with her. Her BJ was lacking, but you put down the money for FS and she did her best to make me happy. (Several times.)

Even had anal one time, and it was affordable. I'm just wondering what was lacking so much that you are saying to avoid.

I might be her. She's also on BP, and she's working in Waiks now instead of DT. Been still seeing her for her DT rates. But it could be YMMV.

DT Looker
10-13-12, 10:43
First off are we talking about the same Koi? BSW, super petite. 5'0".95 lbs. Straight hair?Yea, that is the girl that I had. She's about the only BSW I'm willing to date. Which says much in my book, since I've been mugged by 3 of them in the past and pretty much stopped dating BSW.

Member #5092
10-13-12, 15:16
Yea, that is the girl that I had. She's about the only BSW I'm willing to date. Which says much in my book, since I've been mugged by 3 of them in the past and pretty much stopped dating BSW.Sorry to hear that DT would you mind elaborating on your mugging so we know what to look out for in the future.

DT Looker
10-15-12, 18:29
Sorry to hear that DT would you mind elaborating on your mugging so we know what to look out for in the future.Its been too long, the three girls were about 15 years ago. They are long gone. Also one was a mahu (made a mistake. Was a damned good job.)

I believe I already posted it earlier sometime.
"Weirdos and RoBs"

This is the reason why I now grab the girl. And THEN get the money from the ATM.

Usually if I'm hunting in Downtown I have a special wallet with less than $10, and the only thing I carry is my debit card and my Driver's License. That way I won't lose any credit cards, club cards, work ids, etc.

When I meet an Escort / MP same thing. Keep most of the other stuff out of the wallet and go in pretty bare. Just the money.

Ck813
10-16-12, 06:43
Sorry to hear about that bad incident. What would you guys do if you met up with a call girl only to realize she is the ugliest girl on earth. I tried to leave but she threatened to make a scene if I didn't give her 20. 00 bucks for cancellation. I threw the 20. 00 on the ground and she wanted me to pick it up. I told her f. You!

What do you guys feel about this cancellation crap? 3 providers did this to me. Onw I just paid the 300. 00 and fucked her, one got 20 the other or the last I almost tore her place apart and her pimp friend etc who was hiding in the bathroom. The 4th he pulled a gun on me. All 6 feet 6 inches and prob about 350 pounds.

CK


Its been too long, the three girls were about 15 years ago. They are long gone. Also one was a mahu (made a mistake. Was a damned good job.)

I believe I already posted it earlier sometime.

"Weirdos and RoBs"

This is the reason why I now grab the girl. And THEN get the money from the ATM.

Usually if I'm hunting in Downtown I have a special wallet with less than $10, and the only thing I carry is my debit card and my Driver's License. That way I won't lose any credit cards, club cards, work ids, etc.

When I meet an Escort / MP same thing. Keep most of the other stuff out of the wallet and go in pretty bare. Just the money.

Fisherman808
11-05-12, 06:06
Minhe (Mini) manager wannabe has several new girls and they all drink like fish. Avoid this place like the plague unless you got tons of money to burn. Eve who was mama at Twilight is more reasonable and so is Jun mama. Minhe and her girls are bad for their reputation and if I can help any others from these robs wanted to post a warning. Sat with 3 of the "new" girls biggest rob is Yumi. Yumi cute but not great and drinks like a fish!

Secret Agent
11-05-12, 16:10
Minhe (Mini) manager wannabe has several new girls and they all drink like fish. Avoid this place like the plague unless you got tons of money to burn. Eve who was mama at Twilight is more reasonable and so is Jun mama. Minhe and her girls are bad for their reputation and if I can help any others from these robs wanted to post a warning. Sat with 3 of the "new" girls biggest rob is Yumi. Yumi cute but not great and drinks like a fish!Fisherman808 this is at D'amour? I've never met a girl named Yumi there yet, but I believe there's a Yumi at New Casino.

Fisherman808
11-05-12, 17:10
Fisherman808 this is at D'amour? I've never met a girl named Yumi there yet, but I believe there's a Yumi at New Casino.You are correct, my bad it is not Yumi but Yuri. Yumi at Casino is cool.

Luvnsex2
11-07-12, 04:34
Zaira-WORST experience EVER!

Stay far far away from this one. I finally met the provider from hell. Called her, we agreed on $.40. Get there (PM near airport) and I'm kinda pleased that she's kinda cute. Not sure if she's the girl in the pic-she's ebony. Anyway, usual LE check, place the donation on the table and get started with CBJ. Feels good, but then I find out that the $.40 is CBJ only. I'm sensually touching her and can tell she's liking it, but suddenly she tells me no touch. Then she orders me hands off her and behind my head in a very bossy tone. I figure play along. But from there it was all down hill. She was just outright mean. She sticks her stink nani in front of my face and then tells me look but no touch. I'm thinking,"Don't worry, I'm not even touching that stink nani! By now Jr has had it and starts to shrivel. She gets more mean and starts making degrading remarks. Stupid me thinking with the small head (literally) still wants full service. She wants $$.50. We agree on $$. What an idiot I am. I get the money, put in on the table and she again starts with CBJ. Still being bossy and mean, Jr fails and I can't get it up. I tell her if we can just get a little more intimate, Jr will come to life and I can enter. She sticks Jr in front of her stink nani, and then pushes me away making more mean comments. More CBJ, but this doesn't do it for me. Never got FS. This provider is a total loser. I give up, throw the cover on the floor, get dressed and leave. Before I left I tell her she has a real bad attitude. L / A/S. 7.5/1/2. Stay far far away. You've been warned!

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleE.oha-20/3754052

Her ad: My first time in Hawai'I. ALOHA!

Tired of bait & switch, fake pictures & dissapointments? Ready for a beautiful face & body with a personality to match? IF YOUR ANSWER IS YES! Then look no further gentlemen If you love a bright smile, flawless skin, and an all around put together woman; then you've found your match. I'm discreet, with no games.

Zaira (eight. 0. Eight) 5five1-3four3three What a joke-her personality totally sucks! Huge Disappointment!

Blake123
11-07-12, 05:31
Zaira-WORST experience EVER!

Stay far far away from this one. I finally met the provider from hell. Called her, we agreed on $.40. Get there (PM near airport) and I'm kinda pleased that she's kinda cute. Not sure if she's the girl in the pic-she's ebony. Anyway, usual LE check, place the donation on the table and get started with CBJ. Feels good, but then I find out that the $.40 is CBJ only. I'm sensually touching her and can tell she's liking it, but suddenly she tells me no touch. Then she orders me hands off her and behind my head in a very bossy tone. I figure play along. But from there it was all down hill. She was just outright mean. She sticks her stink nani in front of my face and then tells me look but no touch. I'm thinking,"Don't worry, I'm not even touching that stink nani! By now Jr has had it and starts to shrivel. She gets more mean and starts making degrading remarks. Stupid me thinking with the small head (literally) still wants full service. She wants $$.50. We agree on $$. What an idiot I am. I get the money, put in on the table and she again starts with CBJ. Still being bossy and mean, Jr fails and I can't get it up. I tell her if we can just get a little more intimate, Jr will come to life and I can enter. She sticks Jr in front of her stink nani, and then pushes me away making more mean comments. More CBJ, but this doesn't do it for me. Never got FS. This provider is a total loser. I give up, throw the cover on the floor, get dressed and leave. Before I left I tell her she has a real bad attitude. L / A/S. 7.5/1/2. Stay far far away. You've been warned!

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleE.oha-20/3754052

Her ad: My first time in Hawai'I. ALOHA!

Tired of bait & switch, fake pictures & dissapointments? Ready for a beautiful face & body with a personality to match? IF YOUR ANSWER IS YES! Then look no further gentlemen If you love a bright smile, flawless skin, and an all around put together woman; then you've found your match. I'm discreet, with no games.

Zaira (eight. 0. Eight) 5five1-3four3three What a joke-her personality totally sucks! Huge Disappointment!Was the $.40 suppose to be for one hour or one-half hour? Nonetheless, she sounds like a real b__tch. Will avoid. Too bad because her pics look pretty hot (if those are indeed her real pics). Thanks for the tipoff.

Luvnsex2
11-07-12, 22:03
Was the $.40 suppose to be for one hour or one-half hour? Nonetheless, she sounds like a real b__tch. Will avoid. Too bad because her pics look pretty hot (if those are indeed her real pics). Thanks for the tipoff.1/2 hour. I don't think she was ever going to provide FS. It was all BS. Bottom line she was mean, nasty. And not the good kine nasty. I don't think the pics are really her. She's darker skin and had short hair. Of course hair can always change, body is similar. Too bad with the right attitude, I think this girl would have been fun.

Member #4472
11-08-12, 14:58
This one is back:

* 6' Elegant Beauty from Texas! * Natural 36F Breasts! Former Urology Nurse Honolulu & Big Island!.49.

Advertises on several sites. Posted a report on her the last time she blew thru town to rip off the local mongers. Bottom line: will try to get you off with a HJ. Will give only token BJ and FS but instead will always quickly go back to HJ and lots of spit.

She brings with her an extensive array of dildos, etc to stuff up your ass if you are into that sort of thing. If you are not, don't bother with her.

Save your money for a better escort.

Oh, she is very old also and looks it.

Luvnsex2
11-16-12, 12:51
1/2 hour. I don't think she was ever going to provide FS. It was all BS. Bottom line she was mean, nasty. And not the good kine nasty. I don't think the pics are really her. She's darker skin and had short hair. Of course hair can always change, body is similar. Too bad with the right attitude, I think this girl would have been fun.This is her new ad. These look more like her except her hair was short when I saw her. LOL, I'm guessing she was wearing a wig. Another LOL, she looked better with the short hair, IMO. Anyway be warned it was my worst experience. She is a real B! I would've preferred if she had taken the money and ran. That's how bad! STAY AWAY!

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/shar-our-fantases-20/3759210

Bigdaddybudda
11-17-12, 23:18
This is her new ad. These look more like her except her hair was short when I saw her. LOL, I'm guessing she was wearing a wig. Another LOL, she looked better with the short hair, IMO. Anyway be warned it was my worst experience. She is a real B! I would've preferred if she had taken the money and ran. That's how bad! STAY AWAY!

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/shar-our-fantases-20/3759210Let me add to this one (and apologize for not posting earlier and saving a fellow monger some time and money). Saw a friend of hers a few days prior and that was OK so expected similar results. Got there and saw a dude just hanging out near the coke machine (she asked me to bring a drink). Kinda spooked me a almost (should have) bailed. Followed the wrong head and texted her about him. She assured me that he wasn't with her. Went to room. She's in tshirt and shorts. She asked for roses up front. I made the rookie mistake of providing it. Went to use the bathroom and when I came out she's in bra and panties and tells me nothing else was coming off! WTF. Am I back in high school with the old slide the panties to the side trick and no chi chis? Hen no BJ, no LFK, no touching! Money gone. Blue pill wasted. Not wanting to risk highlighting myself opted to just take my loses and leave. Not too expensive a lesson, but never again.

Please don't let me have this nightmare again.

Luvnsex2
12-13-12, 02:25
Let me add to this one (and apologize for not posting earlier and saving a fellow monger some time and money). Saw a friend of hers a few days prior and that was OK so expected similar results. Got there and saw a dude just hanging out near the coke machine (she asked me to bring a drink). Kinda spooked me a almost (should have) bailed. Followed the wrong head and texted her about him. She assured me that he wasn't with her. Went to room. She's in tshirt and shorts. She asked for roses up front. I made the rookie mistake of providing it. Went to use the bathroom and when I came out she's in bra and panties and tells me nothing else was coming off! WTF. Am I back in high school with the old slide the panties to the side trick and no chi chis? Hen no BJ, no LFK, no touching! Money gone. Blue pill wasted. Not wanting to risk highlighting myself opted to just take my loses and leave. Not too expensive a lesson, but never again.

Please don't let me have this nightmare again.WATCH OUT! She's also posting as Chardonnay and I think Kareina. This one is REAL BAD! As in NOT good BAD! Big time ROB!

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/touch-me-_-please-me_-20/3811690

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/ebonyfilipino-s-_-w-_-e-_-e-_-t-_-h_e-_a-_r-_t-22/3818574

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/caution-new-booty-u-will-come-back-for-more-22/3813382

Member #4472
12-27-12, 23:43
Goes by the name Sonya. 24 year old. Skinny, small tits. Posts on various sites, lately BP. Only does incall in Waialua. Yes, all the way out there. Offers rates of. 95hh and 1. 5 fh. Old county style home with barking dogs. They bark at you even when you are indoors with her. First thing is that she doesn't tell you that her husband is home till you get there. Said one guy got spooked and walked out. You think? But she told me he remains in a bedroom watching their kid and won't come out. Then gave differing stories as to whether you pay for the act or the time. Finally said ok with the time. Started to get cozy, then ask if she has any cameras around. She says yes. One camera that she pointed to is mounted in the kitchen with a whole view of the entire bed area. Tell her I don't want to be taped. She says its just for "security". Tell her: that's a deal breaker, I don't want to be on tape. She says the camera is off. I say,"ok to cover it with something". She says no. I say, if its not on, why can't I cover it. She says no. I say I am leaving. She says I "owe" her something because she got naked. At this point, I didn't give a f, just got part of my $ back and got the hell out.

If you don't mind the dogs barking and the neighbors wondering why they are barking, or the husband inthe house, or the camera that is not supposed to be on, then go for it.

Otherwise, save your gas and time and pass on this crazy one.

Playboy54
12-28-12, 04:02
Thanks for reporting the rip-offs. If we all stick together we can do a lot.

Playboy54!

I love independent girls. But only if they are honest.

MrFunStuff808
12-28-12, 12:14
Goes by the name Sonya. 24 year old. Skinny, small tits. Posts on various sites, lately BP. Only does incall in Waialua. Yes, all the way out there. Offers rates of. 95hh and 1. 5 fh. Old county style home with barking dogs. They bark at you even when you are indoors with her. First thing is that she doesn't tell you that her husband is home till you get there. Said one guy got spooked and walked out. You think? But she told me he remains in a bedroom watching their kid and won't come out. Then gave differing stories as to whether you pay for the act or the time. Finally said ok with the time. Started to get cozy, then ask if she has any cameras around. She says yes. One camera that she pointed to is mounted in the kitchen with a whole view of the entire bed area. Tell her I don't want to be taped. She says its just for "security". Tell her: that's a deal breaker, I don't want to be on tape. She says the camera is off. I say,"ok to cover it with something". She says no. I say, if its not on, why can't I cover it. She says no. I say I am leaving. She says I "owe" her something because she got naked. At this point, I didn't give a f, just got part of my $ back and got the hell out.

If you don't mind the dogs barking and the neighbors wondering why they are barking, or the husband inthe house, or the camera that is not supposed to be on, then go for it.

Otherwise, save your gas and time and pass on this crazy one.Holy crap Dave! WTF! Glad you got the hell out of there. Husband? Cameras? Thanks for the warning!

Chlah
01-07-13, 15:39
Let me add to this one (and apologize for not posting earlier and saving a fellow monger some time and money). Saw a friend of hers a few days prior and that was OK so expected similar results. Got there and saw a dude just hanging out near the coke machine (she asked me to bring a drink). Kinda spooked me a almost (should have) bailed. Followed the wrong head and texted her about him. She assured me that he wasn't with her. Went to room. She's in tshirt and shorts. She asked for roses up front. I made the rookie mistake of providing it. Went to use the bathroom and when I came out she's in bra and panties and tells me nothing else was coming off! WTF. Am I back in high school with the old slide the panties to the side trick and no chi chis? Hen no BJ, no LFK, no touching! Money gone. Blue pill wasted. Not wanting to risk highlighting myself opted to just take my loses and leave. Not too expensive a lesson, but never again.

Please don't let me have this nightmare again.Totally agree, stay the "F" away, complete bullshit and upsell. She tried to charge me $10 for the use of a wash cloth, saying the hotel charged laundry fees on all towels and such, LOL, like I never stayed in a hotel. Although I did bust a nut, but $ for a BJ is steep and $$$ for FS, busted a nut and ran out.

DickTracy25
01-15-13, 18:43
Check this out. Would not repeat for sure.

http://www.rubmaps.com/erotic-massage-asia-spa-honolulu-hi-8675#comments

KBGmonger
01-24-13, 21:44
Stay away. If you want to know more I did a report about her on "Escort thread." Good looking blonde. Total rob.

Oldee
01-25-13, 01:47
Stay away. If you want to know more I did a report about her on "Escort thread." Good looking blonde. Total rob.The great KBGmonger got robbed? I guess even monkeys fall from trees sometimes ah? LOL. How's the civilian game going for you bro? BTW, a new crop of KBGs are waiting for your takeout action bro. Miss your KB reports.

DickTracy25
01-27-13, 02:29
Goes by the name Sonya. 24 year old. Skinny, small tits. Posts on various sites, lately BP. Only does incall in Waialua. Yes, all the way out there. Offers rates of. 95hh and 1. 5 fh. Old county style home with barking dogs. They bark at you even when you are indoors with her. First thing is that she doesn't tell you that her husband is home till you get there. Said one guy got spooked and walked out. You think? But she told me he remains in a bedroom watching their kid and won't come out. Then gave differing stories as to whether you pay for the act or the time. Finally said ok with the time. Started to get cozy, then ask if she has any cameras around. She says yes. One camera that she pointed to is mounted in the kitchen with a whole view of the entire bed area. Tell her I don't want to be taped. She says its just for "security". Tell her: that's a deal breaker, I don't want to be on tape. She says the camera is off. I say,"ok to cover it with something". She says no. I say, if its not on, why can't I cover it. She says no. I say I am leaving. She says I "owe" her something because she got naked. At this point, I didn't give a f, just got part of my $ back and got the hell out.

If you don't mind the dogs barking and the neighbors wondering why they are barking, or the husband inthe house, or the camera that is not supposed to be on, then go for it.

Otherwise, save your gas and time and pass on this crazy one.Sorry about your nightmare exprience. Husband. Camera. Dog. LOL. That would make most people RUN. My question is I have been to a lot of AMP with security camera installed. Can anyone can explain it to me why are so many AMP with security camera installed. Would the Johns be exposed let say when the place is raided.

WraithOfGod
01-28-13, 03:33
Sorry about your nightmare exprience. Husband. Camera. Dog. LOL. That would make most people RUN. My question is I have been to a lot of AMP with security camera installed. Can anyone can explain it to me why are so many AMP with security camera installed. Would the Johns be exposed let say when the place is raided.Cameras protect providers from unscrupulous mongers, homeless folks, drunks and druggies, angry pimps, etc. They also let the MS know when someone is coming, so they can be prepared. Yeah, they're for security. This is the commercial sex industry after all; there are some crazy bros out there. As for raids, if the AMP kept the footage around, it could be used as evidence if a crime was committed. But there are no cameras in the rooms, so there's no taping of solicitation. That's all between you and your girl, bro.

Idusixtyning
01-28-13, 18:28
Cameras protect providers from unscrupulous mongers, homeless folks, drunks and druggies, angry pimps, etc. They also let the MS know when someone is coming, so they can be prepared. Yeah, they're for security. This is the commercial sex industry after all; there are some crazy bros out there. As for raids, if the AMP kept the footage around, it could be used as evidence if a crime was committed. But there are no cameras in the rooms, so there's no taping of solicitation. That's all between you and your girl, bro.Yup, any of the Ward complex can see a mongerer coming up the stairs!

DickTracy25
01-28-13, 19:10
As for raids, if the AMP kept the footage around, it could be used as evidence if a crime was committed. But there are no cameras in the rooms, so there's no taping of solicitation. That's all between you and your girl, bro.Most of the security system have the capability of recording footage into the hard drive up to a month these days, unless the AMP erase thier recording footage daily, there will be some footage of the mongers that were there, if there is a raided or a crime is committed, LE will have a chance to go over the tape and call in any mongers for questioning to help their investigation

Yes some places do the security camera installed at the lobby to protect the girls, never seen any camera in the room though unless they are hidden well.

KBGmonger
01-30-13, 05:14
The great KBGmonger got robbed? I guess even monkeys fall from trees sometimes ah? LOL. How's the civilian game going for you bro? BTW, a new crop of KBGs are waiting for your takeout action bro. Miss your KB reports.Yep, I did get robbed and it was actually kind of scary. I went up to her hotel room and she wanted 200 so I was dumb enough to give it to her. I guess I am so use to Asian takeout and not into the Waiks scene that it must have been obvious. It was a bad experience because I lost my money AND felt like a fool. I will not bother with Waiks again. My speciality is asian takeout and should stick to that. Basically have just been going civilian lately. They are not cheap either.

BangMi
02-23-13, 08:44
Fuck I thought I'd be more of a lifetime lurker. But I felt the need to warn me fellow mongers so much I had to tell.

Secondly. I RTFF. But I'm so hard headed that I need to run into a wall myself to see if I get konked. I read all the info about Kim but since I was out and about I decided to see for myself. And shit she is hot. Top marks anywhere if she was AMP status. This warning is more along the lines of,"there's a road block at ala Wai and Mcully" and I feel like its my duty to tell all the curious people that, for you, it prob aint worth it. Saw her tits licked them a little and bit her ass while her friend did the HJ. As an experience, forgetting about the damage, it was cool cause she is seriously pretty. BUT with funds taken into consideration. Total rob. She needs a dick slap to give her some sense.

On a side bar can anyone tell me their top providers, sans makeup. I'm out at weird hours and usually catch girls as they're retiring and consequently see them without the face paint. My tops would be Julie from VIP and Shia from ginza. I've caught Kelly, Jina, and a few others au natural but they aint nothing to whistle at.

WinterTiger
03-10-13, 12:30
http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/a-visit-to-remember-dont-miss-out-incall-specials-til-6am-19/3951311

Ok, not sure if this is considered a "rip-off" in the literal sense. But my time was wasted. Showed up with my
1.5 for hh and we began talking about what was on the menu. I only had what she wanted for donation and when I got there she tired to tell me that amount wasn't enough for FS. That I needed more. I told her I knew a girl right next door that would take less than what I brought for FS. Anyway, she wanted more donation and wasn't budging but neither was I. So we didn't reach an accord, I put my $ back in my pocket, and as I was going to leave she started throwing a fit and looked like she was going to try to block my way out if I didn't give her something for "wasting" her time. I kept my cool and politely told her to "go F herself" and made my way out. For some this may have been an unpleasant experience.

It was unfortunate because this girl was really cute (pix look accurate, or close enough to not matter [I would have left otherwise]) , and she kept a clean locale.

Inda719
03-11-13, 00:58
WT.

By the way I am almost sure the post prior to your in the month of November on here refer to the same chick Yasmine / Zaira. Not sure if you tried to investigate. But its a lesson learned. Nice way to handle it thought maybe these ROBs will learn and stop the bull * then nobody time will be wasted. Pay for wasted time hell no.

Happy hunting,

Inda


http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/a-visit-to-remember-dont-miss-out-incall-specials-til-6am-19/3951311

Ok, not sure if this is considered a "rip-off" in the literal sense. But my time was wasted. Showed up with my

1. 5 for hh and we began talking about what was on the menu. I only had what she wanted for donation and when I got there she tired to tell me that amount wasn't enough for FS. That I needed more. I told her I knew a girl right next door that would take less than what I brought for FS. Anyway, she wanted more donation and wasn't budging but neither was I. So we didn't reach an accord, I put my $ back in my pocket, and as I was going to leave she started throwing a fit and looked like she was going to try to block my way out if I didn't give her something for "wasting" her time. I kept my cool and politely told her to "go F herself" and made my way out. For some this may have been an unpleasant experience.

It was unfortunate because this girl was really cute (pix look accurate, or close enough to not matter [I would have left otherwise]) , and she kept a clean locale.

WinterTiger
03-11-13, 17:47
WT.

By the way I am almost sure the post prior to your in the month of November on here refer to the same chick Yasmine / Zaira. Not sure if you tried to investigate. But its a lesson learned. Nice way to handle it thought maybe these ROBs will learn and stop the bull * then nobody time will be wasted. Pay for wasted time hell no.

Happy hunting,

IndaI'm new to this site. And my dumb luck I saw her just a couple days before I stumbled upon this fantastic site. I'll be sure to check out this section in the future.

RequeteBueno
05-25-13, 20:58
Since at least June 2010, when I started this hobby in Hawaii (not in life) I went to Asia Spa first and was not impressed from the first introduction with the girl that worked at 5am. They had a Puerto Rican there that was a total turn off (even for this guy that loves loves loves Latinas). Hawaii has turned my current love fest towards Asians, but I'm an equal opportunity monger. It don't even have to be wet, that's what KY and my spit is for.

Happy mongering. Be safe.


Check this out. Would not repeat for sure.

http://www.rubmaps.com/erotic-massage-asia-spa-honolulu-hi-8675#comments

LoveToFindJoy
05-27-13, 02:10
Ever since I found this forum, I always went to the well reviewed girls-so was always satisfied. Broke the routine today and went to cc 612 http://honolulu.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/gorgeous-massage-therapists/4186766. Was drawn by all the pictures and asked the girl who answered the phone if pictures were real. She adamately said yes all pictures real. So go there see it isn't true but one kind of cute so what the hell. Big mistake my bad from here on out. First ask for 60 although th. E ad said 50, then ask for money upfront bad massage bad service all around. Do not go there I even had a better time at Asia Spa before I found this site-that's how bad.

Luvnsex2
05-28-13, 02:06
WT.

By the way I am almost sure the post prior to your in the month of November on here refer to the same chick Yasmine / Zaira. Not sure if you tried to investigate. But its a lesson learned. Nice way to handle it thought maybe these ROBs will learn and stop the bull * then nobody time will be wasted. Pay for wasted time hell no.

Happy hunting,

IndaShe is bad news period! Uses many different Aliases and phone #s. Definitely managed! Stay far away
brothers! This girl is cute by the way but is it worth being robbed?! Heck no!

SnatchThat
07-29-13, 00:26
http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-amzing-asian-persuasion-21/4189279

Do not waste your money this is what is know as a red flag.

Papio
10-24-13, 14:02
I talked to mama at Camelot she said had break ties with Kimi customers complaining if she work there they not coming anymore.

Wulfen
10-28-13, 14:57
http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/2-snow-bunnies-full-of-fun-22/4483612

Saw one of these two (unless she's a Sybil with MPD) walking downtown track near Maunakea. Pulled over and she started asking for money up front to get the room key for airport hotel from her GF. I smelled a rob, and counteroffered with a car date with payment due after services rendered. She started into a sob story about how she's stranded in Hawaii and boo hoo how she was broke and wouldn't I give her money up front. I peeled out a hamilton and sent her on her way. I took it as a sign of her bad intentions when she declined my counteroffer. Glad I didn't get any further involved with this one. Pic was accurate. If you like whiny, manipulative, and inarticulate; your gem awaits. Personally Ill avoid these two.

Luvnsex2
11-08-13, 22:25
Saw her today. After several texts made the appointment and met her in a house in Makakilo. She's bigger than what I usually like, but cute face though somewhat manly features. Just a bit. She asked for the donation up front and since another brother confirmed that she is ok, I gave it to her. BIG MISTAKE! Of course the pic is fake-we already knew that! Now we know that the girl can be totally fake too!

She was very friendly and her cute face drew me in. She's put on some extra weight and even she admits it, but still nice bod. Not fat. Did the basic LE check and after I gave her the donation she smoked a cig before we got started and started yapping away. Yap yap yap, some sob story had me trusting her even though I really wanted to get started into the deed. She offered a massage and I figured why not. So so massage, but still hit some good points. On the front she teased the boys and then started a HJ. I told her I wanted to get down to the real business. She had to search for a condom downstairs in the bedroom and gave it to me, but before I could get it on, her phone rings. She claimed it was her friend coming so I told her well let's go into the bedroom. She claimed that the bedrooms were locked. Wait didn't you just search downstairs in the bedroom for a cover?! Oh BTW, she did the massage on a blanket on the floor and with her underwear on. I told her let's just do it and finish before her friend arrives. Then out of the blue she says, "Oh doesn't matter, times up." I was like WTF! Threw the condom on the floor, left and considered it a lesson learned. Even if another monger had a good experience, I'm never paying up front again. If they insist, I walk. L / A / S 7.5/1/1. 1 for S because she actually did do some B2B , but with her pantie still on. I guess if you do decide to see her, skip the conversation and the massage, and definitely do not pay up front!

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/and-tasty-hawaiian-hottie-both-busty-wbrains-20/4499260

Ron M
11-08-13, 22:34
Saw her today. After several texts made the appointment and met her in a house in Makakilo. She's bigger than what I usually like, but cute face though somewhat manly features. Just a bit. She asked for the donation up front and since another brother confirmed that she is ok, I gave it to her. BIG MISTAKE! Of course the pic is fake-we already knew that! Now we know that the girl can be totally fake too!

She was very friendly and her cute face drew me in. She's put on some extra weight and even she admits it, but still nice bod. Not fat. Did the basic LE check and after I gave her the donation she smoked a cig before we got started and started yapping away. Yap yap yap, some sob story had me trusting her even though I really wanted to get started into the deed. She offered a massage and I figured why not. So so massage, but still hit some good points. On the front she teased the boys and then started a HJ. I told her I wanted to get down to the real business. She had to search for a condom downstairs in the bedroom and gave it to me, but before I could get it on, her phone rings. She claimed it was her friend coming so I told her well let's go into the bedroom. She claimed that the bedrooms were locked. Wait didn't you just search downstairs in the bedroom for a cover?! Oh BTW, she did the massage on a blanket on the floor and with her underwear on. I told her let's just do it and finish before her friend arrives. Then out of the blue she says, "Oh doesn't matter, times up." I was like WTF! Threw the condom on the floor, left and considered it a lesson learned. Even if another monger had a good experience, I'm never paying up front again. If they insist, I walk. L / A / S 7.5/1/1. 1 for S because she actually did do some B2 be, but with her pantie still on. I guess if you do decide to see her, skip the conversation and the massage, and definitely do not pay up front!

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/and-tasty-hawaiian-hottie-both-busty-wbrains-20/4499260I don't get why you Guys keep doing this? When you Pay Upfront you're setting yourself up for a Lousy Session or a Cash and Dash. If a Provider wants the Money Upfront before the Session gets going, just Walk Away. I'll repeat that for you Newbies, If a Provider.

Wants the Money Upfront before the Session gets going, just Walk Away. I don't Care how Gorgeous she is. If she wants the Money First I got no Problem Walking Out on her. I got Ripped Off a long time ago and vowed it will Never Happen Again.

Ocolumbo
11-09-13, 01:39
Saw her today. After several texts made the appointment and met her in a house in Makakilo. She's bigger than what I usually like, but cute face though somewhat manly features. Just a bit. She asked for the donation up front and since another brother confirmed that she is ok, I gave it to her. BIG MISTAKE! Of course the pic is fake-we already knew that! Now we know that the girl can be totally fake too!

She was very friendly and her cute face drew me in. She's put on some extra weight and even she admits it, but still nice bod. Not fat. Did the basic LE check and after I gave her the donation she smoked a cig before we got started and started yapping away. Yap yap yap, some sob story had me trusting her even though I really wanted to get started into the deed. She offered a massage and I figured why not. So so massage, but still hit some good points. On the front she teased the boys and then started a HJ. I told her I wanted to get down to the real business. She had to search for a condom downstairs in the bedroom and gave it to me, but before I could get it on, her phone rings. She claimed it was her friend coming so I told her well let's go into the bedroom. She claimed that the bedrooms were locked. Wait didn't you just search downstairs in the bedroom for a cover?! Oh BTW, she did the massage on a blanket on the floor and with her underwear on. I told her let's just do it and finish before her friend arrives. Then out of the blue she says, "Oh doesn't matter, times up." I was like WTF! Threw the condom on the floor, left and considered it a lesson learned. Even if another monger had a good experience, I'm never paying up front again. If they insist, I walk. L / A / S 7.5/1/1. 1 for S because she actually did do some B2B , but with her pantie still on. I guess if you do decide to see her, skip the conversation and the massage, and definitely do not pay up front!

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/and-tasty-hawaiian-hottie-both-busty-wbrains-20/4499260Why see an escort or streetwalker who would ask for money upfront, upsell and Rob. When in our fair city we have AMPs with standard rates, standard FS, extras that do not cost more, and standard tipping afterward, especially if you are sober and known customer.

Lowlys One
11-09-13, 15:15
I don't get why you Guys keep doing this? When you Pay Upfront you're setting yourself up for a Lousy Session or a Cash and Dash. If a Provider wants the Money Upfront before the Session gets going, just Walk Away. I'll repeat that for you Newbies, If a Provider.

Wants the Money Upfront before the Session gets going, just Walk Away. I don't Care how Gorgeous she is. If she wants the Money First I got no Problem Walking Out on her. I got Ripped Off a long time ago and vowed it will Never Happen Again.I'm just really curious, maybe it's me and my choices and actions but which BP escorts deliver srevice without damages upfront? And how do you get it so you pay after services, so far I have never and I repeat never had a BP escort who would do things that way.

Closetperv
11-09-13, 15:58
I'm just really curious, maybe it's me and my choices and actions but which BP escorts deliver srevice without damages upfront? And how do you get it so you pay after services, so far I have never and I repeat never had a BP escort who would do things that way.I've never been with an escort simply because the price is ridiculous when compared to an AMP. I think their standard practice is to collect the money up front simply because you are "paying them for their time." Anything else that happens is done so between two consenting adults. With that being said, I would recommend checking out reviews of a provider you might want to see beforehand. I don't think there is anyway to get around paying them before service provided unless you repeat with them and they know and are comfortable with them. Escorts are different from AMP's in the paying before because I think it is something that is just common for them. Since it's common it shouldn't really raise any red flags as long as they have positive reviews.

When a provider in an AMP asks for the tip up front it always throws up a red flag in my book. This is mainly because unlike escorts you are not paying them for their time, you are "tipping them for their service." When a provider asks for the tip up front before service it almost always means one of two things: 1) Several Mongers get so upset with their service that they simply decided not to pay (which is kind of a the**k move) and leave them with nothing, or 2) Their service keeps getting worse and mongers start tipping them way less than the standard fee here in HI. Either way, as the last provider I had, they start to become jaded and go into a sort of vicious downward spiral where the service will probably become even worse, and more mongers will get cheated out of their money. Eventually, some of these former providers will probably become SW if they get hooked on drugs.

Bottom line: Escort that is well reviewed, has webpage, or professional agency is usually okay, from what I hear, to pay upfront. AMP providers that demand tip up front are no better than SW's and will usually be the ones that will cheat you.

Kalani69
11-09-13, 17:44
I've never been with an escort simply because the price is ridiculous when compared to an AMP. I think their standard practice is to collect the money up front simply because you are "paying them for their time." Anything else that happens is done so between two consenting adults. With that being said, I would recommend checking out reviews of a provider you might want to see beforehand. I don't think there is anyway to get around paying them before service provided unless you repeat with them and they know and are comfortable with them. Escorts are different from AMP's in the paying before because I think it is something that is just common for them. Since it's common it shouldn't really raise any red flags as long as they have positive reviews.

When a provider in an AMP asks for the tip up front it always throws up a red flag in my book. This is mainly because unlike escorts you are not paying them for their time, you are "tipping them for their service." When a provider asks for the tip up front before service it almost always means one of two things: 1) Several Mongers get so upset with their service that they simply decided not to pay (which is kind of a the**k move) and leave them with nothing, or 2) Their service keeps getting worse and mongers start tipping them way less than the standard fee here in HI. Either way, as the last provider I had, they start to become jaded and go into a sort of vicious downward spiral where the service will probably become even worse, and more mongers will get cheated out of their money. Eventually, some of these former providers will probably become SW if they get hooked on drugs.

Bottom line: Escort that is well reviewed, has webpage, or professional agency is usually okay, from what I hear, to pay upfront. AMP providers that demand tip up front are no better than SW's and will usually be the ones that will cheat you.I agree with this explanation. In the last 5-6 years, I have never "tipped" upfront at an AMP. However, two of the three escorts I frequented on a regular basis (but no longer do so because they are now inactive) asked that the tip be placed on a piece of furniture before the "date" started, and the tip remained there until after I left the premises. The third escort graciously accepted the tip after the date and never counted the cash, even the first time. All three have had top notch reviews. Only one seems to be semi-active in Hawaii, but their dealings with the cash were indicative of their service minded attitudes, although I think it was partially due to being careful regarding LE.

HiHorse
11-09-13, 18:18
Saw her today. After several texts made the appointment and met her in a house in Makakilo. She's bigger than what I usually like, but cute face though somewhat manly features. Just a bit. She asked for the donation up front and since another brother confirmed that she is ok, I gave it to her. BIG MISTAKE! Of course the pic is fake-we already knew that! Now we know that the girl can be totally fake too!

She was very friendly and her cute face drew me in. She's put on some extra weight and even she admits it, but still nice bod. Not fat. Did the basic LE check and after I gave her the donation she smoked a cig before we got started and started yapping away. Yap yap yap, some sob story had me trusting her even though I really wanted to get started into the deed. She offered a massage and I figured why not. So so massage, but still hit some good points. On the front she teased the boys and then started a HJ. I told her I wanted to get down to the real business. She had to search for a condom downstairs in the bedroom and gave it to me, but before I could get it on, her phone rings. She claimed it was her friend coming so I told her well let's go into the bedroom. She claimed that the bedrooms were locked. Wait didn't you just search downstairs in the bedroom for a cover?! Oh BTW, she did the massage on a blanket on the floor and with her underwear on. I told her let's just do it and finish before her friend arrives. Then out of the blue she says, "Oh doesn't matter, times up." I was like WTF! Threw the condom on the floor, left and considered it a lesson learned. Even if another monger had a good experience, I'm never paying up front again. If they insist, I walk. L / A / S 7.5/1/1. 1 for S because she actually did do some B2B , but with her pantie still on. I guess if you do decide to see her, skip the conversation and the massage, and definitely do not pay up front!

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/and-tasty-hawaiian-hottie-both-busty-wbrains-20/4499260She a rip I'm calling the landlord. I ready called cops.

Ron M
11-09-13, 23:48
I'm just really curious, maybe it's me and my choices and actions but which BP escorts deliver srevice without damages upfront? And how do you get it so you pay after services, so far I have never and I repeat never had a BP escort who would do things that way.When I make an appointment to see a Provider I never give them Money Upfront. The last few Providers I've seen Never asked me for the Money Upfront. My current Provider never asked for the Money Upfront even during the very first time I saw her. I arrived at her Incall location. We were having a "Get To Know Each Other" Conversation. While we were talking she started to take her clothes off. Never ever asked for the Money first. Remember this is the very first time I ever had a Session with her. It was Great. FS GFE. Did I see her again? Hell Yeah. Met her in March and have been seeing her ever since. I just saw her this past Friday. If she asked me for the Money first, I would have Walked out on her. I'm not ever getting Ripped Off ever again. If you guys are good with paying First, all I can say is Good Luck and hope you don't get Ripped Off.

Lowlys One
11-10-13, 02:00
When I make an appointment to see a Provider I never give them Money Upfront. The last few Providers I've seen Never asked me for the Money Upfront. My current Provider never asked for the Money Upfront even during the very first time I saw her. I arrived at her Incall location. We were having a "Get To Know Each Other" Conversation. While we were talking she started to take her clothes off. Never ever asked for the Money first. Remember this is the very first time I ever had a Session with her. It was Great. FS GFE. Did I see her again? Hell Yeah. Met her in March and have been seeing her ever since. I just saw her this past Friday. If she asked me for the Money first, I would have Walked out on her. I'm not ever getting Ripped Off ever again. If you guys are good with paying First, all I can say is Good Luck and hope you don't get Ripped Off.Nice, thanks Ron M.

Luvnsex2
11-10-13, 05:11
Why see an escort or streetwalker who would ask for money upfront, upsell and Rob. When in our fair city we have AMPs with standard rates, standard FS, extras that do not cost more, and standard tipping afterward, especially if you are sober and known customer.Because I've met BP providers who provided an excellent experience at a great rate! I met one who even after several dates still asked for the donation upfront and I would pay it because every time, it was fun with no rush. I joked about it with her, but she would still ask. Local provider, young and cute, no GFE, but still an overall very good experience. She seemed to enjoy it as much as I did. But left the islands. I met another one who was GFE, no rush, even better than the other one. But also left the islands and hasn't returned. And there are others. Bottom line is that I could see BP providers twice for just a little over the damage of 1 AMP visit.

Now just to make sure, I'm not suggesting pay upfront. I for one will NOT pay upfront again, unless and that's a big unless I already know the girl. And I agree no matter how pretty, I will NOT! As Ron M said, instead I will walk! And what I learned this time is that even if someone had a good experience, ya still never know! Not worth taking the risk!

Ron M
11-10-13, 16:25
Now just to make sure, I'm not suggesting pay upfront. I for one will NOT pay upfront again, unless and that's a big unless I already know the girl. And I agree no matter how pretty, I will NOT! As Ron M said, instead I will walk! And what I learned this time is that even if someone had a good experience, ya still never know! Not worth taking the risk!When you Pay Upfront and get Ripped Off even one time, you Never do it a second time. One Rip Off was enough for me to learn. Ever since my experience, I Never paid a girl Upfront before the Session started. I haven't Walked Out on a Girl in quite a while. I guess since the Economy is still Bad, Girls are good with this Payment Set Up. Well at least the Girls I see.

Blake123
11-11-13, 05:56
Why see an escort or streetwalker who would ask for money upfront, upsell and Rob. When in our fair city we have AMPs with standard rates, standard FS, extras that do not cost more, and standard tipping afterward, especially if you are sober and known customer.

I'm with you on this. I've visited only about 10 escorts here in Honolulu and all but two of them (Joon and Sweetie [aka Ipolani]) were big disappointments. I am done wasting time and money on the escorts and will stick with the AMPs from now on.

Ralphy143
11-14-13, 02:05
http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-and-stunning-blonde-visitingfrom-california-23/4506646

This girl is a total fake and rip off. She doesn't look half as good as the photos. Do NOT go see her. She will rip you off. She tells me she will do FS and asks for $$ up front. She starts with a lame HJ and I told her I did not agree to just this before we started and that she agreed to do FS.

So halfway thru the deed she tells me she never agreed to that, and that she only agreed for her time. She then threatened me for soliciting prostitution and threatened rape and then tried to call the cops. Never again on BP. Just a bunch of clowns on that website. Total and complete waste.

Tell me am I wrong cause I believe she solicited me and not the other way around? In any event, they should take this site down as these girls are losers.

Blake123
11-15-13, 04:32
http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-and-stunning-blonde-visitingfrom-california-23/4506646

This girl is a total fake and rip off. She doesn't look half as good as the photos. Do NOT go see her. She will rip you off. She tells me she will do FS and asks for $$ up front. She starts with a lame HJ and I told her I did not agree to just this before we started and that she agreed to do FS.

So halfway thru the deed she tells me she never agreed to that, and that she only agreed for her time. She then threatened me for soliciting prostitution and threatened rape and then tried to call the cops. Never again on BP. Just a bunch of clowns on that website. Total and complete waste.

Tell me am I wrong cause I believe she solicited me and not the other way around? In any event, they should take this site down as these girls are losers.Thanks for TOFTT, but sorry to hear you got fucked over. It's happened probably to all of us at one time or another. An escort who posts fake pics reveals something about her character, and it should be an immediate red flag. Sirens should have been going off in your head when she opened the door, as you said she wasn't the one in the pics. I would have walked and told her why. I've done it before.

Practically anyone who has visited an escort (especially for the first time) knows that most of them (even the reputable ones with good reviews) want the "donation" up front and placed on the table before any action takes place, so a monger may not have much choice but to comply, or he likely is not going to get any pussy from HER. By paying up front to an unproven / non-reviewed escort, a monger is taking chances on her holding up her end of the bargain. In your case, she failed to do that.

Your alternatives are to watch for an escort with good reviews or just avoid the escort BS and go to the AMP. And don't pay an AMP girl upfront. If an AMP girl wants the "tip" upfront and won't budge, ask for another girl. But be polite about it.

Uki Eater
11-15-13, 04:53
If an AMP girl wants the "tip" upfront and won't budge, ask for another girl. But be polite about it.What about talking nicely to the girl that you'll tip her later. It doesn't hurt to try. I don't do the BP escort thing but, if an AMP girl asks, I just tell them nicely and they let it go. Blue at Roses I just gave in because I was just lazy to convince her and mentally didn't feel like talking my way out of it. Some guys just submit and give in too early and tip or, they react, get turned off and then walk away.

Blake123
11-15-13, 05:14
What about talking nicely to the girl that you'll tip her later. It doesn't hurt to try. I don't do the BP escort thing but, if an AMP girl asks, I just tell them nicely and they let it go. Blue at Roses I just gave in because I was just lazy to convince her and mentally didn't feel like talking my way out of it. Some guys just submit and give in too early and tip or, they react, get turned off and then walk away.Thanks for chiming in, Uki. I truly have always valued your advice, but when an AMP girl asks me for the tip upfront, I am immediately turned off, as I anticipate mediocre service. That's just the way I am. It's kind of like tipping a waitress before the meal is served. Only two of them have asked for tip upfront thus far, and I asked for another girl.

Ralphy143
11-15-13, 07:01
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AwabiHunter
11-15-13, 20:37
http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-and-stunning-blonde-visitingfrom-california-23/4506646

This girl is a total fake and rip off. She doesn't look half as good as the photos. Do NOT go see her. She will rip you off. She tells me she will do FS and asks for $$ up front. She starts with a lame HJ and I told her I did not agree to just this before we started and that she agreed to do FS.

So halfway thru the deed she tells me she never agreed to that, and that she only agreed for her time. She then threatened me for soliciting prostitution and threatened rape and then tried to call the cops. Never again on BP. Just a bunch of clowns on that website. Total and complete waste.

Tell me am I wrong cause I believe she solicited me and not the other way around? In any event, they should take this site down as these girls are losers.Which one?

Macko69
11-15-13, 23:05
Which one?It goes to that page because the ad was pulled.

Uki Eater
11-16-13, 05:40
Thanks for chiming in, Uki. I truly have always valued your advice, but when an AMP girl asks me for the tip upfront, I am immediately turned off, as I anticipate mediocre service. That's just the way I am. It's kind of like tipping a waitress before the meal is served. Only two of them have asked for tip upfront thus far, and I asked for another girl.Anyone would be turned off because if she were to ask, it's implying that you will stiff / short tip her where she needs to ask for it. However, instead of leaving or asking for another girl the second she asks, I'm curious to see if she's willing and is nice enough to let it go or would she stand her ground and not budge at all? If she gets more demanding and refuses to let it go no matter how calm and nice I am, then I be thinking in my head.

"Aah, junk you! Other girls were able to let it go but, not you?

Then I leave. LOL.

Jzjz
11-16-13, 06:00
It goes to that page because the ad was pulled.Its always better to cut an paste ad and photos and link. Not just link because hos bait and swich all the time and remove ads. Takes more work but keeps better records. Other forums on this site post choke pics. We kind weak on pics. I'm just sayin.

Luvnsex2
11-28-13, 08:12
Just wanted to make sure all the brothers know about this one and watch out for her ad cause she's posting again:

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/puerto-rican-japanese-white-hawaiian-hottie-20/4526019 She's actually posting real pics, but don't be fooled. NOT Worth it!!

If you have to try, don't give her any donation up front! Period! But I wouldn't even try cause got way better and not ROB!

Wulfen
12-02-13, 04:36
Picked her up early am near mortuary as a SW DT, she demanded kala up front, and I caved (thinking with wrong head) figuring how bad can a car date go. After we got to a discrete place, she proceeds to try to pretend to be HPD, by trying to use an authority voice and telling me to put my hands on the dash, etc.

After she exited the vehicle vocally calling out for her "backup," had a few choice words for her; called her out for being the scheming, theiving, lying be! Tch that she is. Getting physically confrontational with any woman is not really my thing, so I took it as a lesson learned and split quite a bit less relaxed than I'd anticipated.

Even though she did me wrong, hope the stupid chick lucks out and does not try to run that con on a guy who has no impulse controls (or who actually has no issues with man-punching a thieving woman as just reward for attempting theft, and as process to retrieve funds taken for no service tendered). Seems like any pro who attempts stuff like that with the wrong person (I.e. Chronic up for too long, etc). Could have the potential to resolve very badly for the short sighted, dumb ass thief.

AMPs or only well vetted providers from now on and no $ up front!

-W.


Just wanted to make sure all the brothers know about this one and watch out for her ad cause she's posting again:

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/puerto-rican-japanese-white-hawaiian-hottie-20/4526019 She's actually posting real pics, but don't be fooled. NOT Worth it!!

If you have to try, don't give her any donation up front! Period! But I wouldn't even try cause got way better and not ROB!

Member #4472
12-03-13, 04:51
http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/biggest-natural-breasts-in-texas-now-in-honolulu-6ft-elegant-beauty-former-urology-nurse-49/2950364

Big time rip off artist. Previously reviewed her. Gives you the big sell, followed by service that is lacking at best and shitty overall. Promises FS but tries to get away with a hand job. Charges high rates that are definitely not worth it. Has numerous dildos and offers to put them up your ass, so if that is your thing, then maybe. But I still wouldn't take a chance on her. She travels here a couple times a year. Spend your time and resources elsewhere.

Jrad0022
12-31-13, 15:53
What's up bradas just posting my recent experience with this one. I know I don't have many post on here but I feel I need to share this so everyone can decide for themselves.
One of these days these girls are going to do this to some crackhead gangster and they're not going to get any better treatment. Worst yet who knows what crackhead gangsters would do if he found out that these girls took his money. He would turn this into mafia style. In closing I would like to thank everyone who contributes here and I find much better service and no broken promises at an AMP. For those who are regulars of hers who think other wise well take it as it comes YMMV but this is my first and last time with her and I hope this post helps some of you decide.

Mahalos Jj808.Thanks for the report. At $.5 she seemed like a bargain with that body. It's to bad.

Jj808
01-08-14, 14:13
Just wanted to clarify my last post. Afterwards she contacted me and was upset because of my post and she said she's going through a rough time so in the end I forgave her and gave her another chance. She asked if we could finish our session and I agreed. The whole time I was thinking this must be how make up sex feels like and it was good. She generally is a nice girl unlike some of these tramps that come to the islands with the bitchy attitude thinkin they all that. Hopefully she forgave me and we just sat there and talked a bit on what she can do next time as in better communication. Pretty much sums up what really went wrong. Again she never gave me attitude. Then we went out to eat and more conversation. So fellas I hope this changes your mind about her and my last post which I took off.

Jj808.

Hiho07
02-18-14, 18:40
Too many rules no dayt no kissing no touching breasts or butt covered everything does not like to be pounded hard or slo tells you how to move hips total turn off pretty girl with nice body she is gone in a week and I will never go back to Mayflower again.

HiPickle
02-18-14, 19:18
Too many rules no dayt no kissing no touching breasts or butt covered everything does not like to be pounded hard or slo tells you how to move hips total turn off pretty girl with nice body she is gone in a week and I will never go back to Mayflower again.There was a warning about her by slappinbellies in the MF thread which steered me clear now it's for sure... Too bad, but Yoyo needs to give her the boot.

MassageKing22
03-06-14, 20:08
Mongers beware of this post - http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRubs/bikini-massage-by-scarlet-21/4652236.

Absolute rip off avoid at all costs. She looks nothing like photos and is a horrible massage and generally just a bad person. Stay safe mongers you've been warned.

MK.

H Life
03-07-14, 03:27
Mongers beware of this post - http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRubs/bikini-massage-by-scarlet-21/4652236.

Absolute rip off avoid at all costs. She looks nothing like photos and is a horrible massage and generally just a bad person. Stay safe mongers you've been warned.

MK.Yeah, 562 area code is a dead give away those girls from Vegas and LA have bad intensions, never had any good experience with neither city, 562 is technicallyLong Beach and surrounding areas, my motto is support our local economy as much as possible, no imposters!

Blake123
03-07-14, 03:33
Mongers beware of this post - http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRubs/bikini-massage-by-scarlet-21/4652236.

Absolute rip off avoid at all costs. She looks nothing like photos and is a horrible massage and generally just a bad person. Stay safe mongers you've been warned.

MK.This is the first review of Scarlet that I have seen.

This is your very-first posting, so understand that some of us are somewhat skeptical of negative reviews by first-time posters (especially since the same posting was repeated in three other threads besides this one).

MassageKing22
03-11-14, 17:12
Hey brothers I totally understand your concerns but I am being totally upfront and real with you. I've followed these threads for over a year just to get good (and bad) tips but never really felt the need to post anything until now. Scarlet literally ruined my day and I had to post it to express the bad experience to help you guys out. I also have other reviews on some other therapists I've seen that I think will prove the credibility!

I have a review I can post on Nat from Pin Thai, also Jenny from 1508, Jessie and Dada from 3303 and a few others.

But anyways lmk if you guys have any more questions etc.

I'm glad I'm now able to post to this now though.

MK.


Top left pic is Asa Akira doing a nurumassage.com video. The others I've seen on the net (various forums), so I'd tend to believe ya. Blake123's correct though. Better to intro yourself with a full review.

Thanks for the tip, Brah.

Aloha.

Blake123
03-12-14, 04:10
Hey brothers I totally understand your concerns but I am being totally upfront and real with you. I've followed these threads for over a year just to get good (and bad) tips but never really felt the need to post anything until now. Scarlet literally ruined my day and I had to post it to express the bad experience to help you guys out. I also have other reviews on some other therapists I've seen that I think will prove the credibility!

I have a review I can post on Nat from Pin Thai, also Jenny from 1508, Jessie and Dada from 3303 and a few others.

But anyways lmk if you guys have any more questions etc.

I'm glad I'm now able to post to this now though.

MK.Just weren't sure who you were at first. Sometimes, competitors or their shills sign up for an account here just to trash another provider. But you seem genuine. Welcome aboard.

Please post a report of those other providers you mentioned. Thanks.

Professor Fun
03-29-14, 02:35
She's back 60 for a bad HJ in a crowed parking lot plus you take a risk her fast hands stole my iphone.

http://hawaii.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/foreign-thai-beauty-lexsi-60-massage-weekend-special-20/4651397

Localpopoki
04-16-14, 01:48
http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/100-real-pics-ultimate-girl-next-door-blonde-barbie-up-late-one-of-a-kind-24/4633664

I've warned about this blonde before & I'll do it again. Less cute in person than in her pictures, upsell, shitty service. Rushed, but fairly friendly. Se might be fun to talk to on the beach or something but a mediocre provider, at best.

FWIW,

LP.

WebbHoes
04-20-14, 23:26
http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/100-real-pics-ultimate-girl-next-door-blonde-barbie-up-late-one-of-a-kind-24/4633664

I've warned about this blonde before & I'll do it again. Less cute in person than in her pictures, upsell, shitty service. Rushed, but fairly friendly. Se might be fun to talk to on the beach or something but a mediocre provider, at best.

FWIW,

LP.She sounds like a waste of time.

Professor Fun
04-21-14, 03:02
http://hawaii.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/foreign-thai-beauty-lexsi-ready-for-some-fun-tonight-20/4750103

She's back again flakes a lot, basically offers a HJ for .60 says she'll do more for more but won't.

And she fast hands watch your belongings.

Professor Fun
04-21-14, 03:05
http://hawaii.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-best-ever-22/4726718

Watch out for this one major con artist LOL might even tell you she's HPD.

Jrad0022
05-07-14, 03:51
WfM. The link was gone in a couple hours as all links on CL with a pic are gone. She goes by Bella and it is part of her email address. Bellaboo4205 at G mail.

She offers a 'hookup' for a greendot card from Longs. Claims to be a single mom who needs to reload the card to pay for her phone. Heart strings anyone?

I went back and forth and 'she' was very good at the game but I knew it was a scam from the beginning. Says she lives in Kalihi on Owawa St. Ended up wasting quite a bit of 'her' time. Always willing to keep the convo going... Just wanted to put it out there. TGTBT.