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Peter Rammer
05-14-16, 16:59
Pimpin in Pasco, I seen this report and I am not trying to embarrass anyone I'm just sharing info that's already being currently reported. However if an adm believes urges post is inappro then by all means remove;.

http://www.fox13news.com/news/local-news/140128606-storyPolk House not unlike the famous St Pete chicken coop from awhile back. A few years ago when I spent a lot of time in Pasco I met this fool and he was driving a taxi cab. Back then he would sometimes 'help' some of the more attractive workers with their pharmaceutical needs. A few months ago Pasco's Snotdrizzle picked up a number of ladies who shopped at Clent's house on Polk Ave. I'm guessing he got a few to snitch on Clent??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E3uYw7QDEg

BigDgoDeep
05-21-16, 21:15
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-pasco/new-port-richey-police-department-conducts-clean-sweep-prostitution-operation-19-arrested

Peter Rammer
08-01-16, 09:16
In the news today and it's not good news:

http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2016/7/27/exclusive_tampa_poli.html

Xiao Xing
08-06-16, 23:38
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-pasco/new-port-richey-police-department-conducts-clean-sweep-prostitution-operation-19-arrestedThis hobby is really not a easy one.

Xx.

Peter Rammer
10-03-16, 16:51
For those who use BP and it limits what an overly aggressive sheriff can do:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/f1938571-6af4-3902-948c-1df00092e743/ss_supreme-court-declines.html

RockinHard
10-06-16, 01:36
For those who use BP and it limits what an overly aggressive sheriff can do:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/f1938571-6af4-3902-948c-1df00092e743/ss_supreme-court-declines.htmlThe link is broken and I can't find the story. I want to read it.

Peter Rammer
10-06-16, 14:15
The link is broken and I can't find the story. I want to read it.Same story where the US Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal of Illinois fat lardazz sheriff concerning BP and credit card companies. The sheriff lost and has to abide by the Illinois Court decision which went against him!!

http://www.wbrc.com/story/33302669/supreme-court-wont-step-into-fight-over-backpage-sex-ads

http://www.sj-r.com/news/20161003/us-supreme-court-wont-step-into-illinois-fight-over-backpage-sex-ads

FuzzyChest
10-07-16, 14:33
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/06/backpage-ceo-arrested-on-sex-trafficking-charges.html

FuzzyChest
10-07-16, 22:35
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/06/backpage-ceo-arrested-on-sex-trafficking-charges.htmlhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/national/the-latest-backpage-attorney-blasts-raid-ceos-arrest/2016/10/07/d065db8c-8cec-11e6-8cdc-4fbb1973b506_story.html?client=ms-android-tmobile-us

Peter Rammer
10-15-16, 22:16
South, but really could happen anywhere. You just never know with a lot of these ladies, their worthless boy friends and their addictions??

http://www.mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2016/10/15/daytona_beach_shores.html

Ajdal
10-16-16, 07:26
Look like the girl from the couples ad or something like that a little while back in Pasco or North Tampa? I'm still searching. Ajdal out


South, but really could happen anywhere. You just never know with a lot of these ladies, their worthless boy friends and their addictions??

http://www.mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2016/10/15/daytona_beach_shores.html.

Peter Rammer
10-18-16, 13:28
Affects ladies of all ages and attracts sc#mbag predators like this managment team:

http://wfla.com/2016/10/18/2-arrested-in-sex-trafficking-ring-that-led-to-florida-teens-death/

Peter Rammer
10-18-16, 13:32
And his St Pete posse have a reputation as harlot wranglers, but it looks like some of the posse can't seem to stay out of trouble themselves?

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/st-pete-police-officer-charged-with-second-dui-offense/337468945

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/i-team-investigates/st-petersburg-officer-resigns-while-being-investigated-for-excessive-force

Peter Rammer
10-23-16, 00:15
For new talent and here's an interesting new idea:

http://local12.com/news/offbeat/sugar-daddy-billboard-targets-illegal-immigrants

Peter Rammer
11-04-16, 20:37
Lena had been an occasional walker on Haines near 58th Ave. She seemed like just any other SW, but I guess she had a nasty secret from he past in West Virginia:

http://wfla.com/2016/11/03/st-pete-woman-arrested-on-charge-of-child-abuse-causing-death/

Jeep95
04-04-17, 22:52
What happened in front of Whiz?

Peter Rammer
04-18-17, 11:11
Can be found throughout St Pete and Lealman, and they come and go. Places like Marty's, Roger's house and the chicken coop are no longer operational, but new venues pop up frequently. There are more than a few in the triangle and they have various rules, but in every case you got to pay to play. Sometimes the pharmacist makes extra by charging $5 to shoot up at his store front and he might even let you stay in the shed in his back yard or maybe a tent?? He might even front you something when you're feeling down with little or no collateral? For Marty party houses you'd need to share some of your prescription with him and maybe provide him some tlc? Back in the day a couple of years ago; Marty's place was so busy that the roving db often set up temporary shop in the back of the property like a walk up flea market? Where else in the world could you have your vehicle serviced outside while a tasty temptress drained your dragon inside?

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article145161764.html

LikeAll
04-22-17, 21:52
Has an add for an upcoming story, this Thursday at 5 pm. Massage Parlors and Health Spas are the 'storefronts for sex'.

They have camera men in the hallways with mama san waving them off. Expect backlash with increased LE busts.

SS.

Tampa Dj
06-10-17, 16:49
I knew she was a local girl who comes back home from LA every once in a while. It'd be a nice dream if she hung out with me sometime. I'm sure other mongers have had that dream as well. But the dream could be a nightmare, she's a scapper as the news story shows!

http://www.wtsp.com/news/porn-star-charged-with-domestic-violence-in-pinellas-park/446309232

Jay Twogo
06-10-17, 20:47
I knew she was a local girl who comes back home from LA every once in a while. It'd be a nice dream if she hung out with me sometime. I'm sure other mongers have had that dream as well. But the dream could be a nightmare, she's a scapper as the news story shows!

http://www.wtsp.com/news/porn-star-charged-with-domestic-violence-in-pinellas-park/446309232Well apparently she is available if you have the cash. TLC girls usually command a premium, but it may help pay for her legal representation.

http://www.theluxurycompanion.com/view.php?id=675

StalkerJerry
06-30-17, 17:07
http://www.wtsp.com/news/crime/st-pete-policeman-arrested-for-soliciting-prostitution/453350078

PoaDream
07-07-17, 09:32
Protesters 5 - 7 today on Kennedy - 7 Star.

Be safe.

Regular Indian
07-19-17, 10:43
I just thought she looked familiar: ?

http://wfla.com/2017/07/11/naked-instagram-model-arrested-in-clearwater-hotel/

Incaller
07-19-17, 16:44
I just thought she looked familiar: ?

http://wfla.com/2017/07/11/naked-instagram-model-arrested-in-clearwater-hotel/Crazy latinas, the candle to my moth. LOL.

Coozie
08-18-17, 16:58
Too bad we missed out on this mother daughter combo in Sarasota. They appear to be a lot more fun than the british lady and her daughter in Tampa.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-sarasota-manatee/mom-daughter-arrested-for-prositution-unlicensed-massage-therapy

Rub101
08-18-17, 21:12
Too bad we missed out on this mother daughter combo in Sarasota. They appear to be a lot more fun than the british lady and her daughter in Tampa.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-sarasota-manatee/mom-daughter-arrested-for-prositution-unlicensed-massage-therapyOnly the daughter did extras.

Best Swimmer
08-19-17, 00:52
Too bad we missed out on this mother daughter combo in Sarasota. They appear to be a lot more fun than the british lady and her daughter in Tampa.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-sarasota-manatee/mom-daughter-arrested-for-prositution-unlicensed-massage-therapyJune 2017 and August 2017, Sarasota Police officers, working with the Department of Health and Selah Freedom, conducted several undercover operations inside the Dodge's residence.

Several visits before the arrest? Your tax money hard at work. Pun intended lmfao.

Ripper69
08-19-17, 12:53
Only the daughter did extras.They both did extras. Only the daughter got caught on the extra part.

There was also another younger cuter daughter that worked there also that didn't get busted.

LayLow01
09-04-17, 21:20
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/09/02/more-than-100-buyers-arrested-in-prostitution-ring/23195053/

NephriteJade
09-04-17, 23:19
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/09/02/more-than-100-buyers-arrested-in-prostitution-ring/23195053/Some of them called the Police and asked for their money back? OK, that's a certain level of stupid.

Ajdal
09-05-17, 08:52
Maybe they'll make it legal and tax it? Or do the local pd's get extra Federal $ for stopping " human trafficking " ? Hmmmm Ajdal out


https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/09/02/more-than-100-buyers-arrested-in-prostitution-ring/23195053/.

Peter Rammer
09-21-17, 21:39
And a warrant is required?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/09/21/police-use-of-stingray-cellphone-tracker-requires-search-warrant-appeals-court-rules/?utm_term=.6f0bdbdd477a

Peter Rammer
09-21-17, 23:02
News and it's pretty close to the 'stroll".

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/womans-decomposed-body-found-near-st-petersburg-railroad-tracks/2338375

Reaper400
09-21-17, 23:22
And a warrant is required?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/09/21/police-use-of-stingray-cellphone-tracker-requires-search-warrant-appeals-court-rules/?utm_term=.6f0bdbdd477aThink about the victims of these crimes that will now go unpunished cause LEO was more concerned with violating or Constitutional right.

The ruling by the D. C. Court of Appeals resulted in all the evidence in the case against Jones being thrown out, and a nine-count felony conviction for sexual abuse, kidnapping, armed robbery and threats being vacated.

RockinHard
10-05-17, 13:42
News and it's pretty close to the 'stroll".

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/womans-decomposed-body-found-near-st-petersburg-railroad-tracks/2338375I heard from someone that this tragedy was little Star. If that's true then I'm really sad. I have not had a text from her in a while but didn't think much of it. She was always really cool and a lot of fun to hang out with I can not imagine why anyone would hurt her.

TheKableGuy
10-06-17, 08:21
I heard from someone that this tragedy was little Star. If that's true then I'm really sad. I have not had a text from her in a while but didn't think much of it. She was always really cool and a lot of fun to hang out with I can not imagine why anyone would hurt her.They just said she was "found" and "decomposed" no other details. Yes she could have been murdered but she could have also OD'd and that's where she spent her last minutes.

Peter Rammer
10-06-17, 14:48
They just said she was "found" and "decomposed" no other details. Yes she could have been murdered but she could have also OD'd and that's where she spent her last minutes.A homicide and they are investigating it without releasing details. One of her most recent psycho sugar daddy morons is a person of interest, but no one has been charges as of yet?

Eye Myt
10-07-17, 10:33
A homicide and they are investigating it without releasing details. One of her most recent psycho sugar daddy morons is a person of interest, but no one has been charges as of yet?Seen them actually name the victim. Are we sure it's Star?

Peter Rammer
10-07-17, 17:05
Seen them actually name the victim. Are we sure it's Star?Aka Samantha, but the St Pete Police with their 111 unsolved homicides are trying a new investigative process which they learned from Reno 911 replays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFYv7Q_0lxQ

Johnson1970
10-08-17, 03:19
Seen them actually name the victim. Are we sure it's Star?I heard from another walker of the area that it was Star and also that 4 other girls had been victimized by a "john" recently.

This seems to be why the local popo both county and city are extra aggressive lately, they are seeking the "violent john".

I recall a couple girls were victimized last year around last Christmas time, maybe they are looking for a "snowbird".

Either way, have your alibi ready if you get the random traffic stop in the area.

Jay Twogo
11-10-17, 10:22
This was originally reported by an ABC affiliate in Raleigh NC.

This is what Homeland Security is up to these days. Must be all those Russian girls. And discuss.

https://www.xbiz.com/news/231580/report-eros-guides-call-center-is-raided

Peter Rammer
11-16-17, 21:50
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-rules-nypd-needed-warrant-210300633.html

Johnson1970
12-13-17, 20:25
The story of Taylor the escort made the news last year when she was found in an alley in South St. Pete on December 22.

There are some important lessons here for my fellow mongers, if something bad happens and you are afraid of being caught with a girl who is in distress, the wrong answer is to let her pass and not try to get her help. Then do not try to cover it up with something worse like leaving her in an alley. At least have the human compassion to take the girl to the hospital.

Story of Taylor's body found.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2016/12/22/woman_s_body_found_i.html

Story of those who left her for dead in that alley.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2017/12/13/two_charged_in_decem.html

Wolf66
12-14-17, 00:59
The story of Taylor the escort made the news last year when she was found in an alley in South St. Pete on December 22.

There are some important lessons here for my fellow mongers, if something bad happens and you are afraid of being caught with a girl who is in distress, the wrong answer is to let her pass and not try to get her help. Then do not try to cover it up with something worse like leaving her in an alley. At least have the human compassion to take the girl to the hospital.

Story of Taylor's body found.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2016/12/22/woman_s_body_found_i.html

Story of those who left her for dead in that alley.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2017/12/13/two_charged_in_decem.htmlWas this the Taylor who did rip-offs sometimes with BF and lived in Gulfport, used these pics?

Johnson1970
12-14-17, 19:13
Was this the Taylor who did rip-offs sometimes with BF and lived in Gulfport, used these pics?No, wrong Taylor. This Taylor was a slender blonde from Tarpon Springs.

http://www.tbreporter.com/crime/st-petersburg-police-seek-murderer/

Peter Rammer
12-14-17, 21:22
Was this the Taylor who did rip-offs sometimes with BF and lived in Gulfport, used these pics?Is a different lady with a real first name of "Jetta" and who has plenty of local model photos.

Peter Rammer
12-18-17, 20:06
Attorney was thinking??

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/article190435519.html

Tailer
12-18-17, 20:13
What a sly-brazen creature, once you're there offer more and they won't snitch on you.

If anyone has the link to the actual video, please post it.

http://iontb.com/detectives-arrest-tampa-attorney-making-girls-jail-porn-video-pinellas-county-jail-female-inmate/

Rub101
12-19-17, 08:40
Can't stop from making money.The things men will do for some sex! LOL.

Daqtip69
12-20-17, 09:12
Attorney was thinking??

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/article190435519.htmlFox news had a pic of the chick he was banging. And damn. I can see why. Heh chick he was with has one heck of rap sheet on her.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/18/florida-attorney-visited-jail-to-make-porn-with-inmate-sheriff-says.html

TeamCommando
12-20-17, 09:38
Fox news had a pic of the chick he was banging. And damn. I can see why. Heh chick he was with has one heck of rap sheet on her.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/18/florida-attorney-visited-jail-to-make-porn-with-inmate-sheriff-says.htmlWhat's even MORE interesting is that old Rip Off Rose was involved in setting him up! She has always had a thing for older men. She is a plank holder in the "Boyfriend of the Month Club. " Now she is even more infamous, if that is even possible?! LOL.

Ziggy62
12-20-17, 11:47
What's even MORE interesting is that old Rip Off Rose was involved in setting him up! She has always had a thing for older men. She is a plank holder in the "Boyfriend of the Month Club. " Now she is even more infamous, if that is even possible?! LOL.That attorney was recording the videos of the sessions he was having with Rose and others to upload to a porn site that I hope to hell find someday soon, LOL. I had a great time with Rose back in the day before she started ripping off others.

Peter Rammer
12-20-17, 12:32
That attorney was recording the videos of the sessions he was having with Rose and others to upload to a porn site that I hope to hell find someday soon, LOL. I had a great time with Rose back in the day before she started ripping off others.Would an attorney, or anyone in his right mind, trust Rose to keep quiet about their 'meetings' I'm betting she ran her mouth bragging to one of her room mates and word got back to Deputy Snotdrizzle! One thing I've learned in this hobby is to never trust any of these prancing princesses and never allow them to have leverage over you! Trust a trollope and you'll soon make a fool of yourself!

Daqtip69
12-20-17, 22:17
Would an attorney, or anyone in his right mind, trust Rose to keep quiet about their 'meetings' I'm betting she ran her mouth bragging to one of her room mates and word got back to Deputy Snotdrizzle! One thing I've learned in this hobby is to never trust any of these prancing princesses and never allow them to have leverage over you! Trust a trollope and you'll soon make a fool of yourself!Is Rose the one in the pic they showed?

TeamCommando
12-20-17, 23:10
Is Rose the one in the pic they showed?Yes. If you look her up, that is also her name, the one she goes by.

She has quite a few reviews and comments on this thread if you do a search.

Rose also used to double team, off and on, with an equally larcenous wench that went by Kelly.

Coozie
12-20-17, 23:23
Yes. If you look her up, that is also her name, the one she goes by.

She has quite a few reviews and comments on this thread if you do a search.

Rose also used to double team, off and on, with an equally larcenous wench that went by Kelly.And before that, she was ripping people off at Atlantis.

Ziggy62
12-21-17, 21:49
Yes. If you look her up, that is also her name, the one she goes by.

She has quite a few reviews and comments on this thread if you do a search.

Rose also used to double team, off and on, with an equally larcenous wench that went by Kelly.I was on my fb account earlier today, when out of the blue, Rose popped up online, before I messaged her and said" wow, your out! I checked the Pinellas Hilton vacation headquarters, under her name for her most recent sign-up, it said "time served". So I messaged her to say hello, and someone claiming to be a friend to monitor her account told me that she was still in, I responded by saying that I guess Pinellas records must be wrong, that it said she was out, then the "friend" switched the story by saying that she is in a program and will be for a while.

Peter Rammer
12-24-17, 17:14
http://www.fox13news.com/news/local-news/attorney-accused-of-making-porn-with-pinellas-inmates-charged-in-hillsborough

BigDgoDeep
12-25-17, 15:58
Per court record she was release to a drug program. 24 months no drugs. Hope she can do it.


I was on my fb account earlier today, when out of the blue, Rose popped up online, before I messaged her and said" wow, your out! I checked the Pinellas Hilton vacation headquarters, under her name for her most recent sign-up, it said "time served". So I messaged her to say hello, and someone claiming to be a friend to monitor her account told me that she was still in, I responded by saying that I guess Pinellas records must be wrong, that it said she was out, then the "friend" switched the story by saying that she is in a program and will be for a while.

Peter Rammer
04-07-18, 00:52
And highly overpaid trollops in the world. The US Congress. Incited this crap? Time to move out of the country and avoid this idiocy: https://www.yahoo.com/news/sex-ads-website-backpage-shut-down-u-authorities-003228741.html.

Ajdal
07-27-18, 10:19
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2018/07/27/man-injured-during-shooting-overnight-in-st--pete

Peter Rammer
07-27-18, 13:51
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2018/07/27/man-injured-during-shooting-overnight-in-st--pete"Woman" wasn't working with the morons who pulled this sheeet off?? I always try to be really careful about where I park, how my vehicles facing and my surroundings? Similar things have happened in that same general vicinity in the past! Virtually all of the walkers and BP women are addicts, and they'll sometimes resort to crap like this?? Always CYA!

KnotKnew
07-27-18, 16:38
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2018/07/27/man-injured-during-shooting-overnight-in-st--peteDamn sure sounds like a set up. Man you cannot let your guard down even after you make the scoop. Not sure what rule this is but keep your fucking eyes open and make sure, no make damn sure you aren't followed. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but this sure passes the smell test.

Peter Rammer
02-26-19, 17:44
Both local law enforcement and States Attorneys like to overstate the sex trafficking angle whenever they can!! There's no doubt sex trafficking happens all too often[Deleted by Admin]

I'm going to stop you right there and ask you to site your sources because this is what all the anti-trafficking groups keep repeating but can never seem to post any actual evidence of this that wasn't funded by an anti-prostitution group.

We at the USASG condemn all forms of slavery whether it's sexual slavery or men being forced to work without pay nor redress for horrible working conditions building the stadiums for the 2020 world cup however we think actual trafficking is rare in the US.

There are even articles writing by anti prostitution groups that say not only the johns, but the women themselves didn't even know they were victims.

"Yes honey even though you can leave and nobody is forcing you to do this work in any way you are still a vctim of sexual trafficking due to geopolitical forces and the violent sexuality of men."

I'm not buying it. There is an election for mayor next month in Jupiter and that's what this is all about.

A2

Mahiman44
07-21-19, 01:41
How do you become a senior member?

By having 25 posts and six months without pissing me off.

A2

Peter Rammer
08-22-19, 17:37
Always got to be careful:

https://www.wtxl.com/news/region-hillsborough/men-lured-to-plant-city-home-by-facebook-post-before-being-viciously-tortured-police-say

Peter Rammer
10-24-19, 08:24
https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-sexual-assault-olaf-target

JohnnieCox
02-29-20, 20:16
https://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/pinellas-sheriff-undercover-drug-operation-nets-19-arrests-at-motel-20190215/?fbclid=IwAR361wd9sHcrOQakCIAOqG3OKpN-x7hbTBbAFy20MF0Cve_HZ64Y8nHOg9Q

Hngblkm
08-25-20, 09:49
https://sports.yahoo.com/in-a-major-twist-prostitution-case-against-robert-kraft-may-protect-citizens-from-unchecked-police-surveillance-002504089.html

Robert Kraft's winning streak against Florida prosecutors continues to roll on. And with it, his fight against prostitution charges appears to be unexpectedly strengthening the privacy of average citizens.

That's the unintentional, but potentially significant, side effect of Kraft's latest court win. It has, once again, backed up the constitutional rights of average citizens who were caught up in police surveillance — the same spa surveillance that four judges have now ruled to be a clear overreach by authorities. And the same surveillance that could end up resulting in Fourth Amendment lawsuits (protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures) brought against police or other agencies that had a role in taping customers who hadn't committed a crime.

One point that Tacopina has attacked is part of what ultimately ensnared Kraft in the case: The reality that authorities didn't engage in "minimized" surveillance — which would have parsed out and taped only the individuals who were committing some type of crime.

It's a basic tenet of any surveillance, Tacopina said. Minimization is when the police have to watch the videos or listen to the recordings. And make sure that criminality is occurring [by each individual being recorded. If the criminality is not occurring, they must shut off the videotape. And that's not what happened here. They let it rip, 24/7 for five days. I guess they went off and got lunch or something. But no one was monitoring it to the point where they were shutting off activities that were not illegal. They were recording innocent individuals in a state of undress. That's why that tape was deemed illegal and suppressed.

Clftn
08-26-20, 01:33
https://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/pinellas-sheriff-undercover-drug-operation-nets-19-arrests-at-motel-20190215/?fbclid=IwAR361wd9sHcrOQakCIAOqG3OKpN-x7hbTBbAFy20MF0Cve_HZ64Y8nHOg9QHad my cherry popped there back in 2007 and it was with a married coworker 😁.

GhostRider50
08-26-20, 09:47
Had my cherry popped there back in 2007 and it was with a married coworker 😁.Wonder if she got popped. Always good for a QV BBBJ. I saw her a few times when I first moved here. First visit to her some really big bro was heaving in the bathroom.

LongBallsMcGee
09-05-20, 10:57
[QUOTE=Hngblkm;4945760]https://sports.yahoo.com/in-a-major-twist-prostitution-case-against-robert-kraft-may-protect-citizens-from-unchecked-police-surveillance-002504089.html.

Robert Kraft's winning streak against Florida prosecutors continues to roll on. And with it, his fight against prostitution charges appears to be unexpectedly strengthening the privacy of average citizens.

That's the unintentional, but potentially significant, side effect of Kraft's latest court win. It has, once again, backed up the constitutional rights of average citizens who were caught up in police surveillance the same spa surveillance that four judges have now ruled to be a clear overreach by authorities. And the same surveillance that could end up resulting in Fourth Amendment lawsuits (protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures) brought against police or other agencies that had a role in taping customers who hadn't committed a crime.

One point that Tacopina has attacked is part of what ultimately ensnared Kraft in the case: The reality that authorities didn't engage in "minimized" surveillance which would have parsed out and taped only the individuals who were committing some type of crime.

It's a basic tenet of any surveillance, Tacopina said. Minimization is when the police have to watch the videos or listen to the recordings. And make sure that criminality is occurring [byeachindividualbeingrecorded. Ifthecriminalityisnotoccurring, theymustshutoffthevideotape. Andthat'snotwhathappenedhere. Theyletitrip,24/7 forfivedays. Iguesstheywentoffandgotlunchorsomething. Butnoonewasmonitoringittothepointwheretheywereshuttingoffactivitiesthatwerenotillegal. Theywererecordinginnocentindividualsinastateofundress. That'swhythattapewasdeemedillegalandsuppressed. [ / QUOTE].

Don't forget the other gem: Detectives having marked patrol cars illegally pull over people after leaving the spa under pretext of a (nonexistent) traffic violation so they could tie identity to Person in video tape.

This whole case is much bigger than prostitution or supposed "human trafficking" (eye roll), and just another example off the unchecked out of control police power and abuse of our rights.

Thank god for Kraft and his deep pockets, otherwise this would all been just another day by LE doing whatever want without regard for Constitution.

Johnson1970
09-10-20, 20:04
In case you think the guys in blue are good guys, they sometimes have a secret in their own closet. Hypocrites.

A retired Clearwater police officer is accused of engaging in illegal sexual contact with a girl years ago, according to the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/pinellas/2020/09/09/retired-clearwater-officer-faces-lewd-and-lascivious-molestation-charge/

Anyway, make sure your dates are with adults, so you don't get your name in the paper like this cop.

Chase Star
09-12-20, 02:37
. Anyway, make sure your dates are with adults, so you don't get your name in the paper like this cop.When its a case of engaging in sex acts with a TWELVE year old girl, as it was at the time in this case, its not a matter of checking the girl's I'd. If these allegations are true, this guy had to know what he was doing.

Rico7
12-02-20, 20:10
What a fucking joke.

https://reason.com/2020/12/02/florida-masseuse-ordered-to-pay-31573-after-soliciting-robert-kraft-to-commit-prostitution/

BlueEyes1
12-03-20, 08:55
Absolutely incredible, the money and time wasted. And the ones that get punished are the ones supposedly being "trafficked" A joke indeed.


What a fucking joke.

https://reason.com/2020/12/02/florida-masseuse-ordered-to-pay-31573-after-soliciting-robert-kraft-to-commit-prostitution/

Peter Rammer
12-03-20, 12:06
What a fucking joke.

https://reason.com/2020/12/02/florida-masseuse-ordered-to-pay-31573-after-soliciting-robert-kraft-to-commit-prostitution/This is the same pathetic Florida County that covered up so much of Jeffrey Epstein's activities with under-aged girls? SMH?

Cmbrbg135
12-03-20, 14:29
Absolutely incredible, the money and time wasted. And the ones that get punished are the ones supposedly being "trafficked" A joke indeed.Yep. This is another example that shows how the system was not built for the common citizens. Most of us live in a dream-like existence. We are the freest people, living in the freest nation, with a system built by the people and for the people. Nice dream, and I know that this is not completely untrue. But the fact of the matter is that in some aspects of our social lives, yes, here in US we may have achieved some of the highest levels possible, such the freedom of speach or property rights protection, and others.

But in some aspects of our human social lives, we (some of us anyways) are just as backwards, if not more so than other nations. The issue of "Cash For Sex" is one of those that our collective intelligence just embarrassingly fails. In my humble (possibly stupid) opinion, I notice that our culture inherits, some fundamental flaws that keep creeping in, in almost every aspect of life, so as to slow down or completely impeding any king of progress. It is almost like a bug in a software application. You can mitigate it, sometimes win battles, and other times lose. But the more advanced societies have resolved a lot these issues and are better for them.

What happens is, I think, the people most interested in imposing (maybe too strongly, shell I say, influencing) their way of life on to others, are those most interested in government and the system of laws. It is not a secret that these people also tend to be the ones who have accumulated more of the resources around them. So they run the freaking show. If you throw in that mix, the superstitious nuts, now you can have a really messed up situation.

That is why, you can see things that seem to wrong, immoral or just unnecessary for human well being or flourishing, which are made to be "Legal", but things that good, fun or inconsequential, made to be "Illegal". Looking at our history provide a clearer picture. Cash for alcoholic beverage, had been made illegal at one point. Cash for weed, we are at it right now, trying to solve this problem. In some places it is legal but not others (don't you just love this country? It amazing). Here is a future dilema for you. What is more immoral?

- "Cash for Sex"? Or "Cash for Guns".

To help this, one must define what morality is. In my stupid mind (I came to this by simply being alive, reading and / or listening to smart people), but as I was saying, Morality is a form of knowledge, and it is meant to solve problems. I like to think of it, as a technology for society. Morality is the problem of what to do next, given the history and the present circumstances. As I can tell, no matter the problem at hand, the individual or collective moral compass tend to generally be or dictate the new direction. So, What is more immoral? "Cash for Sex"? Or "Cash for Guns".

Hngblkm
12-15-20, 10:55
Only verified users can post videos now. I don't see too many people sending a photo of themselves to verify.

Thanks to those mongers who posted their adventures. It was enjoyable while it lasted.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/pornhub-purges-millions-of-videos-bans-downloading-after-child-abuse-investigation/news-story/ec250d897de18ebb5effe3d58db3ed2f

TlJohnny
12-28-20, 21:21
Only verified users can post videos now. I don't see too many people sending a photo of themselves to verify.

Thanks to those mongers who posted their adventures. It was enjoyable while it lasted.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/pornhub-purges-millions-of-videos-bans-downloading-after-child-abuse-investigation/news-story/ec250d897de18ebb5effe3d58db3ed2fPornhub was great. Just another example of the few bulling the mass and ruining everything. I wish these a holes would get some serious ass whipping. Sign me up to give it to them.

JoeBlackFL
01-22-21, 12:06
What a fucking joke.

https://reason.com/2020/12/02/florida-masseuse-ordered-to-pay-31573-after-soliciting-robert-kraft-to-commit-prostitution/I'm glad Kraft fought it all the way to the end. A judge ruled the hidden video by the cops was unconstitutional which is good. At least I will never worry cops have hidden cameras in any stores I visit now that's its been ruled unconstitutional.

Willh
01-22-21, 13:03
I'm glad Kraft fought it all the way to the end. A judge ruled the hidden video by the cops was unconstitutional which is good. At least I will never worry cops have hidden cameras in any stores I visit now that's its been ruled unconstitutional.It was unconstitutional because there was no warrant. That doesn't mean they can't legally get a warrant and install cameras. They just did it illegaly in this case.

Johnson1970
04-15-21, 17:06
31-Arrested In St. Pete East Lealman Drug Round-Up.

https://www.tampafp.com/31-arrested-in-st-pete-east-lealman-drug-round-up/

Eye Myt
04-15-21, 23:33
31-Arrested In St. Pete East Lealman Drug Round-Up.

https://www.tampafp.com/31-arrested-in-st-pete-east-lealman-drug-round-up/Angelos took a big hit in sales this week.

Reaper400
04-16-21, 01:11
31-Arrested In St. Pete East Lealman Drug Round-Up.

https://www.tampafp.com/31-arrested-in-st-pete-east-lealman-drug-round-up/Anybody recognize any of he women? Was a report recently in the SW section dude saw shit ton of cops in the area. Perhaps he stumbled upon the action.

Johnson1970
04-21-21, 01:56
Anybody recognize any of he women? Was a report recently in the SW section dude saw shit ton of cops in the area. Perhaps he stumbled upon the action.All the women seen in the news stories were walkers and addicts. The men were dealers or associates. This was not about petty blowjob action, it was about people dying and that brings out the big guns.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/crime/2021/04/15/pinellas-drug-houses-linked-to-165-overdoses-deputies-arrest-31-more-to-come/#text=LEALMAN%20%E2%80%94%20 Three%20 so%2 Dcalled%20%E2%80%9 C,the%20 Pinellas%20 County%20 Sheriff's%20 Office. &text=The%20 Sheriff's%20 Office%20 said%20 those, December%202020%20 and%20 January%202021.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/after-150-overdoses-pinellas-detectives-arrest-over-30-people-in-lealman-drug-bust-operation

https://tampa.cbslocal.com/2021/04/18/pinellas-drug-bust-35-suspects-identified-nab-additional-15-serving-search-warrants-4/

If anyone thinks things will be getting back to "normal" in Lealman after this much "shock and awe" you are crazy.

Rico7
04-21-21, 20:39
Hopefully this will be a trend and everyone gets a little relief, although I doubt it ever happens in Polk county.

https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1018521/16

Reaper400
04-21-21, 22:11
All the women seen in the news stories were walkers and addicts. The men were dealers or associates. This was not about petty blowjob action, it was about people dying and that brings out the big guns.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/crime/2021/04/15/pinellas-drug-houses-linked-to-165-overdoses-deputies-arrest-31-more-to-come/#text=LEALMAN%20%E2%80%94%20 Three%20 so%2 Dcalled%20%E2%80%9 C,the%20 Pinellas%20 County%20 Sheriff's%20 Office. &text=The%20 Sheriff's%20 Office%20 said%20 those, December%202020%20 and%20 January%202021.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/after-150-overdoses-pinellas-detectives-arrest-over-30-people-in-lealman-drug-bust-operation

https://tampa.cbslocal.com/2021/04/18/pinellas-drug-bust-35-suspects-identified-nab-additional-15-serving-search-warrants-4/

If anyone thinks things will be getting back to "normal" in Lealman after this much "shock and awe" you are crazy.I was told they also did a big raid at Tampa Bay Extended Stay which a few providers warned me to stay away. Said they got bunch of dboys, no word on the many workers supposedly staying there.

BiggusDiggus
04-22-21, 01:40
I've known Cass for some time on the streets. Annoying voice but quality oral skills once you got her to commit to the action.

She will probably be going away for a while with recent multiple pinches.

Hope this will get her straight.

They all had to know it was going to happen. They had been flaunting it for a while.

Didn't notice Tay Tay or Devon in the reports, which is good.

Stay safe and Monger Happy.


Anybody recognize any of he women? Was a report recently in the SW section dude saw shit ton of cops in the area. Perhaps he stumbled upon the action.

Reaper400
04-22-21, 08:38
I've known Cass for some time on the streets. Annoying voice but quality oral skills once you got her to commit to the action.

She will probably be going away for a while with recent multiple pinches.

Hope this will get her straight.

They all had to know it was going to happen. They had been flaunting it for a while.

Didn't notice Tay Tay or Devon in the reports, which is good.

Stay safe and Monger Happy.There is one on there Christina D I am wondering if it is that one girl m dick exploded over it got so hard who was advertising for a while. Pics were thin with fat tits and worked out of garage.

AJack703
04-29-21, 19:31
I knew Charlene Roberts. BSW, thin, when she was not high she was very good. She was at the Grove Park location. Unfortunately, over the last couple of months she has hit the drugs more and more. Maybe she will get clean in Jail, as I suspect she will be there for a while.

Hngblkm
05-19-21, 13:32
https://www.tampafp.com/seven-arrested-in-st-peterburg-on-narcotics-search-warrant/

https://www.*******.com/21-061-narcotics-detectives-serve-two-search-warrants-in-lealman

Eye Myt
05-19-21, 23:17
https://www.tampafp.com/seven-arrested-in-st-peterburg-on-narcotics-search-warrant/

https://www.*******.com/21-061-narcotics-detectives-serve-two-search-warrants-in-lealmanParts of second website were hid?

I'm sure Hngblkmn didn't do it.

Hngblkm
08-19-21, 19:01
And hopefully the appropriate donation adjustments.

The company said it made the decision because of pressure from banking partners and payment processors.

The announcement follows closely on the heels of an Axios report alleging that leaked documents show the site has struggled to get new investors, despite mammoth profits on track to hit $12.5 billion next year.

Adult content creators have been among the most popular and lucrative on the platform.

Sex workers may now have to rebuild the followings they have accumulated on elsewhere.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-19/onlyfans-to-block-sexually-explicit-videos-starting-in-october

GreatScott62
08-21-21, 12:58
https://www.fox13news.com/news/police-credit-social-media-sleuths-for-arrest-of-woman-accused-of-stealing-a-car-while-on-a-test-drive

SevenyRitch
08-25-21, 14:00
OF Unbans Porn Ban.

https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/onlyfans-drops-porn-ban-sexually-explicit-policy-1235048705/

Rico7
08-25-21, 18:28
https://www.tmz.com/2021/08/25/ron-jeremy-indicted-rape-sexual-assault-30-charges-21-victims/

On an unrelated note, I saw this idea today on Twitter: Starting a fancy dessert delivery service called OnlyFlans. Sorry.

JohnnieCox
10-18-21, 18:05
https://www.fox13news.com/news/hillsborough-sheriff-operation-roundup-trafficking

Stay Aware!!

Johnson1970
01-30-22, 11:53
Pinellas County deputies arrested an off-duty Clearwater Police officer for allegedly holding his ex-girlfriend captive for days and threatening to kill her.

https://nbc-2.com/news/crime/2022/01/28/clearwater-officer-arrested-after-holding-ex-girlfriend-captive-for-days/

This just goes to show, while these guys pretend to be the finest their community has to offer, they are occasionally crazier than the guys who post on this forum about just wanting to get laid.

Johnson1970
03-04-22, 00:31
Pinellas County deputies arrested an off-duty Clearwater Police officer for allegedly holding his ex-girlfriend captive for days and threatening to kill her.

https://nbc-2.com/news/crime/2022/01/28/clearwater-officer-arrested-after-holding-ex-girlfriend-captive-for-days/

This just goes to show, while these guys pretend to be the finest their community has to offer, they are occasionally crazier than the guys who post on this forum about just wanting to get laid.https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-hillsborough/procession-for-hillsborough-county-deputy-killed-in-apparent-murder-suicide-to-be-held-wednesday#:~:text=TAMPA%2C%20Fla.,Augustine%20before%20he%20killed%20himself.

This goes to show the role model citizens with badges are crazier than guys looking for a BJ in a strip club or massage parlor because their wife / girlfriend won't do that stuff.

Gronimo25
03-10-22, 09:49
Some familiar faces

https://www.wfla.com/news/crime/13-arrested-in-tampa-area-human-trafficking-operation/

SevenyRitch
03-10-22, 10:22
Some familiar faces

https://www.wfla.com/news/crime/13-arrested-in-tampa-area-human-trafficking-operation/Recognize this one!

CEO Morgan
03-10-22, 12:16
Recognize this one!Yes I do, I though she said she was going back to to momma in one of her video clips. I guess momma didn't want her.

AFriend
07-20-22, 15:44
TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) — A Tampa Police officer was arrested on Wednesday and charged with solicitation of prostitution.

The Tampa Police Department said Stanley Clerveaux, 25, was off-duty when he allegedly solicited prostitution in the area of Cypress St. And Westshore Blvd. He was arrested by the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office.

A spokesman for Tampa Police said Clerveaux has since been fired. A mugshot for Clerveaux was not available when this article was published.

The Tampa Police Department is expected to provide more information about the arrest later Wednesday afternoon.

https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/tampa-police-officer-arrested-for-soliciting-prostitution/?fbclid=IwAR0YQxuAuLQI_DkdUguAZG9EthNMOMuD6OPrTmjeCfDFiRktQ0wEbuTSQDk

NoHopeForMe
07-20-22, 16:51
TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) A Tampa Police officer was arrested on Wednesday and charged with solicitation of prostitution.

https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/tampa-police-officer-arrested-for-soliciting-prostitution/?fbclid=IwAR0YQxuAuLQI_DkdUguAZG9EthNMOMuD6OPrTmjeCfDFiRktQ0wEbuTSQDkCops or not, I always hate when someone has to lose their job cause two consenting adults did something together and money was involved.

Reaper400
07-20-22, 19:41
TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) A Tampa Police officer was arrested on Wednesday and charged with solicitation of prostitution.

The Tampa Police Department said Stanley Clerveaux, 25, was off-duty when he allegedly solicited prostitution in the area of Cypress St. And Westshore Blvd. He was arrested by the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office.

A spokesman for Tampa Police said Clerveaux has since been fired. A mugshot for Clerveaux was not available when this article was published.

The Tampa Police Department is expected to provide more information about the arrest later Wednesday afternoon.

https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/tampa-police-officer-arrested-for-soliciting-prostitution/?fbclid=IwAR0YQxuAuLQI_DkdUguAZG9EthNMOMuD6OPrTmjeCfDFiRktQ0wEbuTSQDkYea, that's a load of shit. Long past time to decrimnalize.

TacoSupreme
08-04-22, 11:47
https://www.tampafp.com/florida-couple-arrested-after-deputies-find-they-had-sex-with-a-dog-for-last-8-years/

Not sure of course, but I suspect she might be the former Christina Cummings.

Pirate6969
08-26-22, 17:41
Got to be careful out there.

https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/over-170-arrested-in-hillsborough-county-prostitution-sting-sheriff/?ipid=promo-link-block1

Joey6688
08-27-22, 19:54
https://www.wfla.com/news/pinellas-county/clearwater-massage-therapists-arrested-in-undercover-prostitution-sting-police-say/

Pirate6969
08-28-22, 10:44
https://www.wfla.com/news/pinellas-county/clearwater-massage-therapists-arrested-in-undercover-prostitution-sting-police-say/Always amazed at how much older these ladies are than any of us think!!

Absence
08-30-22, 09:43
Using a framed picture of Dana as a prop. Clearly one of Dana's bathroom selfies printed off one of her ads. This bugs me a little. I feel for the family but they are being manipulated by WFLA. Also, where were you, all those years, when your sister was prostituting herself? Now, you've got time for an interview?

https://www.wfla.com/news/pinellas-county/family-of-st-pete-woman-found-burned-in-alley-demands-justice/amp/

MadMax67
09-05-22, 05:55
Using a framed picture of Dana as a prop. Clearly one of Dana's bathroom selfies printed off one of her ads. This bugs me a little. I feel for the family but they are being manipulated by WFLA. Also, where were you, all those years, when your sister was prostituting herself? Now, you've got time for an interview?

https://www.wfla.com/news/pinellas-county/family-of-st-pete-woman-found-burned-in-alley-demands-justice/amp/Where was the family? She was an addict and an adult. I'm sure the family didn't want her doing what she did but those were her choices. As a former addict I know there is only so much a family can do. The person has to want it for themselves.

I try all the time to help some of these girls. Some times it works but most of the time it doesn't.

Best Swimmer
09-07-22, 14:50
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/pinellas-park-woman-accused-of-burning-body-beyond-recognition/ar-AA11zt2w?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=f4098338ddab40cfbb6d1a31adf3ee54

HaveItMyWay
09-07-22, 17:25
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/pinellas-park-woman-accused-of-burning-body-beyond-recognition/ar-AA11zt2w?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=f4098338ddab40cfbb6d1a31adf3ee54Wow, the cameras made that easy.

BigGreg
09-09-22, 00:58
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/pinellas-park-woman-accused-of-burning-body-beyond-recognition/ar-AA11zt2w?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=f4098338ddab40cfbb6d1a31adf3ee54I would bet a lot that the woman arrested isn't the only one involved. And when one of the folks involved talks to get a lighter sentence, all the details of Dana's messy life will revealed. Probably going to get messy.

Best Swimmer
09-10-22, 12:47
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/second-arrest-made-after-body-found-severely-burned-in-st-pete-alley/ar-AA11G9Vq?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=bd30c4930e824fb987cf89abc8d3febc

Reaper400
09-10-22, 14:01
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/second-arrest-made-after-body-found-severely-burned-in-st-pete-alley/ar-AA11G9Vq?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=bd30c4930e824fb987cf89abc8d3febcBe interesting to see what the motive was.


Wow, the cameras made that easy.Thats the second most concerning thing about this other than the poor girl getting murdered. These day it seems cameras are everywhere.


Where was the family? She was an addict and an adult. I'm sure the family didn't want her doing what she did but those were her choices. As a former addict I know there is only so much a family can do. The person has to want it for themselves.

I try all the time to help some of these girls. Some times it works but most of the time it doesn't.True the person must want to do it and they also need strong family support and real friends that care about them, not the typical leaches and tweakers they tend to hang around with. The families can only take so much though while stats are all over the place seems Florida has the highest short term success rate around 68% but even with that 40-60% end up relapsing. Never have done nor any desire to do any type of drug but feel for those who have to fight it their entire lives.

Da Zombie
09-18-22, 01:07
Always amazed at how much older these ladies are than any of us think!!Yes. I'm busy looking for a 20 something all the time. I wonder who frequents women of that generation for happy endings.

Peter Rammer
09-18-22, 06:27
Be interesting to see what the motive was.

Thats the second most concerning thing about this other than the poor girl getting murdered. These day it seems cameras are everywhere.

True the person must want to do it and they also need strong family support and real friends that care about them, not the typical leaches and tweakers they tend to hang around with. The families can only take so much though while stats are all over the place seems Florida has the highest short term success rate around 68% but even with that 40-60% end up relapsing. Never have done nor any desire to do any type of drug but feel for those who have to fight it their entire lives.We don't know yet if it was in fact a murder, or if she perhaps overdosed and they attempted to dispose of the body? Either way; it's a terrible end to Heather's life?

https://www.fox13news.com/news/third-person-arrested-in-connection-with-severely-burned-woman-found-in-st-pete-alley-dumpster

BigGreg
09-18-22, 21:43
We don't know yet if it was in fact a murder, or if she perhaps overdosed and they attempted to dispose of the body? Either way; it's a terrible end to Heather's life?

https://www.fox13news.com/news/third-person-arrested-in-connection-with-severely-burned-woman-found-in-st-pete-alley-dumpsterYep. The question to be answered is why did they think they needed to make her body disappear? I'm betting one them will talk eventually.

Johnson1970
09-25-22, 17:25
Yep. The question to be answered is why did they think they needed to make her body disappear? I'm betting one them will talk eventually.Maybe because of this.

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2017/3/17/new_bill_to_crack_do

Joey6688
10-24-22, 15:16
https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/multiple-women-rescued-in-hillsborough-human-trafficking-sting-officials-say/

Wonder which clubs.

Clk504
12-06-22, 14:10
I think we all know who Dirty D is. A legend in early online porn and local adult marketing enthusiast. Sorry to say but he passed away this past October. RIP Dirty D aka Dusty Storm.

Deeez
12-16-22, 20:19
I hope the authorities catch the garbage that did this.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/breaking-news/2022/12/16/fbi-identifies-woman-found-trash-bag-gulf-mexico-off-pinellas-county/

TacoSupreme
12-29-22, 06:22
I hope the authorities catch the garbage that did this.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/breaking-news/2022/12/16/fbi-identifies-woman-found-trash-bag-gulf-mexico-off-pinellas-county/Such a shame. Such a Pretty girl. I agree with you whoever did this is just a waste of a human. I hope they rot in hell.

RobinStPete
12-30-22, 13:45
Gentleman put up reports of busts and things we need to be concerned about and save your pity party. We're here to support our hobby. Oh and the cops know exactly what we're doing and don't care, so get over it.

MadMax67
12-30-22, 19:14
Gentleman put up reports of busts and things we need to be concerned about and save your pity party. We're here to support our hobby. Oh and the cops know exactly what we're doing and don't care, so get over it.How can you say cops don't care what we are doing when Johns get busted in stings all the time.

Reaper400
12-30-22, 20:21
I hope the authorities catch the garbage that did this.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/breaking-news/2022/12/16/fbi-identifies-woman-found-trash-bag-gulf-mexico-off-pinellas-county/Anyone familiar with her?

MarkDean
12-31-22, 05:53
i think we all know who dirty d is. A legend in early online porn and local adult marketing enthusiast. Sorry to say but he passed away this past october. Rip dirty d aka dusty storm.i started by adventures of taking women to glory holes due to dirty. Still do it on a weekly basis. Do you know what he died of?

MadMax67
02-16-23, 17:46
People never learn. Don't go to Polk county!

https://www.wfla.com/news/polk-county/213-people-arrested-in-polk-county-human-trafficking-sting-sheriffs-office-says/

Rico7
02-19-23, 13:00
https://nypost.com/2023/02/16/average-penis-length-has-grown-doctors-call-it-concerning/

JFK2016
03-07-23, 15:51
Pre-covid this area was great. We had a good stream of nice gals with reasonable prices throughout the year. Now it is basically just crap. Much lower quality and fucking ridiculous cost.

I remember QV50 for a hot 24 year old that did not have a fucking attitude.

My hobby needs may shift back to only when I do international travel. There you get supermodel quality at very reasonable prices. Central Europe About 200/ hr.

Is this hobby doomed aka OVER.

Reaper400
03-07-23, 18:02
Pre-covid this area was great. We had a good stream of nice gals with reasonable prices throughout the year. Now it is basically just crap. Much lower quality and fucking ridiculous cost.

I remember QV50 for a hot 24 year old that did not have a fucking attitude.

My hobby needs may shift back to only when I do international travel. There you get supermodel quality at very reasonable prices. Central Europe About 200/ hr.

Is this hobby doomed aka OVER.I think it went to shit years before the COVID weapon hit. The hobby sure has taken hit after hit in the years since CL shut down but the last 4 or so have been the most notable.

TTY954
03-08-23, 08:41
I think it went to shit years before the COVID weapon hit. The hobby sure has taken hit after hit in the years since CL shut down but the last 4 or so have been the most notable.The breaking point was when CL was busted and then fosta / sesta was passed and even this site disappeared a few months. It's never recovered since. I have two regulars I see a dozen times a year now. Used to be almost weekly, like a drug habit. Not so bad I guess, getting harder and harder for two pops in an hour, I have downgraded to half hours mostly.

Tampa30
03-08-23, 12:03
All of our local elected sheriffs seem to relish in the chance to bust "trafficking" when in reality it is almost exclusively consensual sex work they target and arrest. We need some libertarians.


The breaking point was when CL was busted and then fosta / sesta was passed and even this site disappeared a few months. It's never recovered since. I have two regulars I see a dozen times a year now. Used to be almost weekly, like a drug habit. Not so bad I guess, getting harder and harder for two pops in an hour, I have downgraded to half hours mostly.

Reaper400
03-08-23, 21:17
All of our local elected sheriffs seem to relish in the chance to bust "trafficking" when in reality it is almost exclusively consensual sex work they target and arrest. We need some libertarians.Yep just like rape they cheapen the activity for narrative. Very few are trafficked. The stupiditst shit they came up w was date rape. There is no comparison between a dude getting his nut on a girl who is drugged and passed out and real rape where it's extremely violent and the girl is fighting to stop it. While neither are ok actual rape is far worse.

Deeez
09-24-23, 14:43
I hope it's not anyone on here. Condolences to the victim's family.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/alligator-involved-in-pinellas-county-death-investigation-underway-authorities

TranTran
09-24-23, 15:22
Yep just like rape they cheapen the activity for narrative. Very few are trafficked. The stupiditst shit they came up w was date rape. There is no comparison between a dude getting his nut on a girl who is drugged and passed out and real rape where it's extremely violent and the girl is fighting to stop it. While neither are ok actual rape is far worse.These are both fucking rape!

How would you like it if you woke up and your ass hurt and cum oozing out your ass because someone drugged you and get their nut on?

RobinStPete
09-25-23, 00:01
How can you say cops don't care what we are doing when Johns get busted in stings all the time.It actually doesn't happen all that often and it's done for political capital and to curry favor. You seriously think that every hotel in town doesn't share their videos and tell the cops about every girl working there? What you don't think they see our cars driving in and out of the hotels, the strip clubs, the aromatherapy shops and the massage places? Give me a break already! You don't think the cops can establish girls as confidential informants anytime they want to, or do the same with guys anytime they want to? You really think getting them to get naked touch you first blah blah blah matters? The cops can bust us literally anytime they want to. They can bust the girls anytime they want to. They only set up stings when some politician gets a bug up his ass about it.

Gator1961
09-25-23, 07:33
These are both fucking rape!

How would you like it if you woke up and your ass hurt and cum oozing out your ass because someone drugged you and get their nut on?100% right! I do see the point trying to be made, but either way, rape is rape.

Gator.

Bill Ho
09-25-23, 08:02
It actually doesn't happen all that often and it's done for political capital and to curry favor. You seriously think that every hotel in town doesn't share their videos and tell the cops about every girl working there? What you don't think they see our cars driving in and out of the hotels, the strip clubs, the aromatherapy shops and the massage places? Give me a break already! You don't think the cops can establish girls as confidential informants anytime they want to, or do the same with guys anytime they want to? You really think getting them to get naked touch you first blah blah blah matters? The cops can bust us literally anytime they want to. They can bust the girls anytime they want to. They only set up stings when some politician gets a bug up his ass about it.My god, are you paranoid? Bill Ho.

Gator1961
09-25-23, 10:27
My god, are you paranoid? Bill Ho.How is that being paranoid?

Gator.

Rico7
11-08-23, 21:19
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/08/feds-brothel-investigation-politicians-00126153

Sure, it's cliche', but no denying it. If you decide to read the article be sure to click the "court papers" link. Much like the documents used in the warrant culminating in Magic Fingers bust earlier this year in Ft. Lauderdale it makes for fascinating reading. So much time, money, manpower wasted on keeping consenting adults from engaging in the worlds oldest profession. Just ridiculous! Given the current budget shortfall you'd think they they might consider saving some money on LE, interdiction, and incarceration through (where are my libertarian friends?) legalization. How about increasing federal revenue through taxing what should be a legitimate business? Finally, keep sex workers and clients safer through regulation. But no, nothing like the grandstanding at a press conference blabbing about human trafficking in the name of political expediency. Total BS.

Incaller
11-09-23, 05:42
But no, nothing like the grandstanding at a press conference blabbing about human trafficking in the name of political expediency. Total BS.Homeland Security doesn't want to do their real job, but they don't want closed down either so they came up with human trafficking as something they could sell to both the left and the right. We have no friends from either camp. Libertarians don't even have a camp.

TranTran
11-09-23, 18:12
Homeland Security doesn't want to do their real job, but they don't want closed down either so they came up with human trafficking as something they could sell to both the left and the right. We have no friends from either camp. Libertarians don't even have a camp.I personally know 2 women who were kidnapped in their teens and sex trafficked for years before they were rescued.

Incaller
11-10-23, 02:54
I personally know 2 women who were kidnapped in their teens and sex trafficked for years before they were rescued.American women? I'm just thinking we don't need an entire branch of federal government to deal with it. We already have the FBI and even they aren't really interested in their existing job. Much more fun to stage false flag operations on Jan 6th. LOL.

Just the interest on just our federal debt is a trillion every year. That's a trillion dollars of taxpayer money every year that we get absolutely nothing for.

TranTran
11-10-23, 17:41
American women? I'm just thinking we don't need an entire branch of federal government to deal with it. We already have the FBI and even they aren't really interested in their existing job. Much more fun to stage false flag operations on Jan 6th. LOL.

Just the interest on just our federal debt is a trillion every year. That's a trillion dollars of taxpayer money every year that we get absolutely nothing for.Yes, They are American Woman. Many American girls and boys are kidnapped for sex trafficking. Many runaways are also forced into it.

This is a good read: https://polarisproject.org/myths-facts-and-statistics/.

Absence
11-10-23, 18:18
The politico article was about a high end adult prostitution ring operating in DC and the point is massive amounts of time and money spent trying to bust these people.

The feds are not targeting child exploitation. More importantly, you can't trust the government to report on itself, especially when your money is involved. The providers are given a choice between saying they were trafficked victims and protection or prostitute criminals facing prosecution and deportation. Which would you pick?

No one on this board would apologize for or excuse the use of kids. To the extent that is happening, I hope we all support interdiction. However, Abuse of power in the name of children is also exploitation.


Yes, They are American Woman. Many American girls and boys are kidnapped for sex trafficking. Many runaways are also forced into it.

This is a good read: https://polarisproject.org/myths-facts-and-statistics/.

TranTran
11-10-23, 18:40
The politico article was about a high end adult prostitution ring operating in DC and the point is massive amounts of time and money spent trying to bust these people.

The feds are not targeting child exploitation. More importantly, you can't trust the government to report on itself, especially when your money is involved. The providers are given a choice between saying they were trafficked victims and protection or prostitute criminals facing prosecution and deportation. Which would you pick?

No one on this board would apologize for or excuse the use of kids. To the extent that is happening, I hope we all support interdiction. However, Abuse of power in the name of children is also exploitation.Dude. Adult Woman are also kidnapped and Sex Trafficked! It happens everyday here in America!

Girth Worm
11-10-23, 21:42
Dude. Adult Woman are also kidnapped and Sex Trafficked! It happens everyday here in America!The point is we need a legal distinction between consenting adults doing a transactional encounter involving sex and money vs being kidnapped and forced into it like what you are describing. THEN I am on your side. But until then? We speak in code because these people will not make the distinction. People are getting harmed in so many ways by the legal system's pursuit of this. The providers, the mongers, the actually trafficked. This is a joke. Both sides oppose legalization minus a radical outlier or libertarian of some sort. The right does what you see in Lakeland and elsewhere. Making a spectacle out of outing and humiliating people. And the left especially out in San Fran and etc. They let the girls strut around on the streets out in the open as bait to catch us mongers and "punish the men for their contribution to the patriarchy" or whatever dumb, woke horseshit they spew. This, like many issues IS solvable. They just don't want to because the powerful who absolutely ALSO use sex services? Yep. They don't NEED things to be legal or not in order to do it. Only us plebs NEED that. And we willingly vote for it.

Real trafficking does happen though. To adults and children. Trying to act like it is a stick up your ass conservative conspiracy theory distracts from the truth and more importantly an actual solution.

P.S. Very surprised they actually went after a high end outfit. They usually stick to lower end targets to protect the powerful who go high end.

MadMax67
11-12-23, 10:48
Homeland Security doesn't want to do their real job, but they don't want closed down either so they came up with human trafficking as something they could sell to both the left and the right. We have no friends from either camp. Libertarians don't even have a camp.Everyone stop for a second and look at where and who was involved in this bust.

This wasn't your normal everyday Grady Judd Bible waving type of bust. It isn't the screaming of human trafficking. This happened outside of Washington DC and up in Massachusetts. Look at the names involved in the bust. Chinese! The workers were supposedly Asians. The Johns are government officials and contractors with security clearances in DC and our wonderful college elitists and pharmaceutical bigwigs involved up in Mass.

There is definitely a national security aspect to this!

So stop beating the drum of woe is me I can't see my Ho because I might get caught. Jeez!

Rico7
11-12-23, 18:58
Everyone stop for a second and look at where and who was involved in this bust.

This wasn't your normal everyday Grady Judd Bible waving type of bust. It isn't the screaming of human trafficking. This happened outside of Washington DC and up in Massachusetts. Look at the names involved in the bust. Chinese! The workers were supposedly Asians. The Johns are government officials and contractors with security clearances in DC and our wonderful college elitists and pharmaceutical bigwigs involved up in Mass.

There is definitely a national security aspect to this!

So stop beating the drum of woe is me I can't see my Ho because I might get caught. Jeez!If you take the time to read the Affidavit you will see that the 3 who were charged are all Korean. Yes, there were locations in Northern Virginia, but there are multiple K Agencies in MA, PA, VA, NY, NJ, MD, GA, and even one in FL these days. Sure, probably some Gov't workers, military, assorted "bigwigs" etc, were patrons, but you can bet lawyers, mailmen, plumbers salesmen, and every other swinging dick with a sex drive and a few extra bucks are customers too. Just because one of the locations busted was close to DC doesn't mean there was some nefarious conspiracy to steal Government secrets. Men from all walks of life use these places every day, and when they want you to verify and ask for identification it's for the safety of the girls and an attempt to determine if you are law enforcement. It's up to the individual as to what information (if any) to provide. How stupid would it be to give them your Linkedin account if you're a defense contractor? Most of the girls you meet speak very little English and in the hour that you're there I can assure you there's no small talk about job, family, or the over / under on the Bucs game. More like "assume the position" and "I'm ready to go again". The folks running these agencies aren't rocket scientists and are primarily only in the business of providing pleasure (and in this case it was a major fail), and it's somewhat of a stretch to think espionage is the endgame.

Deeez
12-07-23, 00:19
That explains why the huge police presence and arrests on 34th St and Ulmerton areas recently.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/pinellas-county-operation-drug-trafficking-seizure-money-arrests-charges-press-conference-st-petersburg

Reaper400
12-07-23, 00:38
The point is we need a legal distinction between consenting adults doing a transactional encounter involving sex and money vs being kidnapped and forced into it like what you are describing. THEN I am on your side. But until then? We speak in code because these people will not make the distinction. People are getting harmed in so many ways by the legal system's pursuit of this. The providers, the mongers, the actually trafficked. This is a joke. Both sides oppose legalization minus a radical outlier or libertarian of some sort. The right does what you see in Lakeland and elsewhere. Making a spectacle out of outing and humiliating people. And the left especially out in San Fran and etc. They let the girls strut around on the streets out in the open as bait to catch us mongers and "punish the men for their contribution to the patriarchy" or whatever dumb, woke horseshit they spew. This, like many issues IS solvable. They just don't want to because the powerful who absolutely ALSO use sex services? Yep. They don't NEED things to be legal or not in order to do it. Only us plebs NEED that. And we willingly vote for it.

Real trafficking does happen though. To adults and children. Trying to act like it is a stick up your ass conservative conspiracy theory distracts from the truth and more importantly an actual solution.

P.S. Very surprised they actually went after a high end outfit. They usually stick to lower end targets to protect the powerful who go high end.There is an obvious difference but the politicos make to much money on sex trafficking's and drugs to do anything about it. E.


It actually doesn't happen all that often and it's done for political capital and to curry favor. You seriously think that every hotel in town doesn't share their videos and tell the cops about every girl working there? What you don't think they see our cars driving in and out of the hotels, the strip clubs, the aromatherapy shops and the massage places? Give me a break already! You don't think the cops can establish girls as confidential informants anytime they want to, or do the same with guys anytime they want to? You really think getting them to get naked touch you first blah blah blah matters? The cops can bust us literally anytime they want to. They can bust the girls anytime they want to. They only set up stings when some politician gets a bug up his ass about it.Drug addicts don't make reliable witnesses.

Absence
12-07-23, 10:10
First off, for the math heads out there, got to love how dope busts and prosecutions is the one place where the metric system is used consistently.

Also love sheriff Bob's hyperbole.


There's about a million people that live in Pinellas County, and those three kilos yesterday could have killed every man, woman and child in Pinellas County and time and a half.Really depends on the purity. Some of our favorite surrogate daughters and milfs are slamming 2-3 grams a day. I doubt these dirtbags had 3 kilo of uncut dope. It was probably the garden variety skew that retails for $150 a gram.

Kill every man woman and child twice over or keep the junkies of Pinellas from twitching for a day. Which do you think it is?


That explains why the huge police presence and arrests on 34th St and Ulmerton areas recently.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/pinellas-county-operation-drug-trafficking-seizure-money-arrests-charges-press-conference-st-petersburg

Absence
01-16-24, 14:31
Sheriff Bob had press circus over this one. I don't know if deceased was staying at or working out of the Gateway Motel but that is where she met her end. Fentanyl and crack cocaine.

Details are in the media. Wondering if we might know this person by another name.

https://www.fox13news.com/video/1395013

Peter Rammer
01-17-24, 12:00
Sheriff Bob had press circus over this one. I don't know if deceased was staying at or working out of the Gateway Motel but that is where she met her end. Fentanyl and crack cocaine.

Details are in the media. Wondering if we might know this person by another name.

https://www.fox13news.com/video/1395013Who normally worked near Central & 34th St.

Buster Hymen
01-17-24, 21:26
Sheriff Bob had press circus over this one. I don't know if deceased was staying at or working out of the Gateway Motel but that is where she met her end. Fentanyl and crack cocaine.

Details are in the media. Wondering if we might know this person by another name.

https://www.fox13news.com/video/1395013Just watched that video, the mugshot of one of those guys looks like the Geico Caveman!

Absence
01-18-24, 12:08
Never had the pleasure with Jillian. I'm in the area daily but I usually support Incall ladies who post on the list.

Probably can't make a face to the name, personally. RIP, at the least. She was only 30 years old.

They might crucify these guys and I don't think that's right. These people were crushed by poverty and circumstance way before they got a bad batch of fentanyl laced crack.


Who normally worked near Central & 34th St.

RobinStPete
01-18-24, 14:54
Prostitutes and the homeless (just prostitutes without work if they're women) literally receive Narcan from the cops every single day. The cops encounter a death from drugs every single day. Local 7-Elevens are locking the bathroom doors because so many people are dying in their bathrooms across from the Methadone clinics on 150th avenue and also 49th street. The women working on the streets and these hotel rooms are drug addicts, plain and simple. At least in the Aromatherapy shops and the Asian places the women are making a good living and not allowed to do drugs. They're not trafficked either, it's just ridiculous. Most of the Asian women come here from New York and California during season to make money.

TranTran
01-18-24, 17:58
Prostitutes and the homeless (just prostitutes without work if they're women) literally receive Narcan from the cops every single day. The cops encounter a death from drugs every single day. Local 7-Elevens are locking the bathroom doors because so many people are dying in their bathrooms across from the Methadone clinics on 150th avenue and also 49th street. The women working on the streets and these hotel rooms are drug addicts, plain and simple. At least in the Aromatherapy shops and the Asian places the women are making a good living and not allowed to do drugs. They're not trafficked either, it's just ridiculous. Most of the Asian women come here from New York and California during season to make money.Not all Asian women do it willingly. There are thousands of them lured into the business thinking they are going to do legitimate work. I have 2 female friends who were sex trafficked and took them years to escape. One of them now helps these women escape.

Deeez
02-01-24, 23:16
Hope no one on here has been affected by this tragedy.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/clearwater-fire-emergency-crews-home-pinellas-county-florida

CougarHuntr
02-07-24, 20:39
https://www.foxnews.com/health/syphilis-cases-surge-what-infectious-disease-experts-want-you-know

Incaller
03-13-24, 00:05
https://eu.tallahassee.com/story/news/politics/2024/03/08/florida-legislature-passes-bill-to-raise-age-to-be-a-stripper/72888153007/

Looks like the career choices for graduating high school seniors will be reduced this coming July when Ron signs the bill. Wouldn't want to be a club manager who hired a girl with a fake I'd only to end up in jail for 15 years. On the plus side I guess the street walker pool is about to get replenished after all the fentanyl deaths.

Xyz4202
03-14-24, 12:23
https://eu.tallahassee.com/story/news/politics/2024/03/08/florida-legislature-passes-bill-to-raise-age-to-be-a-stripper/72888153007/
This bill worries me because it's likely to pass, and reduce supply and increase costs at the clubs. But it's going to increase supply on the streets, so it comes with good and bad news I guess.

Hngblkm
03-14-24, 16:41
This bill worries me because it's likely to pass, and reduce supply and increase costs at the clubs. But it's going to increase supply on the streets, so it comes with good and bad news I guess.I am thinking it will drive quality talent to the other adult content creator sites and not the streets. We may see an increase in supply but at the higher level of the scale, not at the street or listcrawler level.

Just my 2 cents.

Xyz4202
03-14-24, 17:32
I am thinking it will drive quality talent to the other adult content creator sites and not the streets. We may see an increase in supply but at the higher level of the scale, not at the street or listcrawler level.

Just my 2 cents.I expect all scales will see a sweet increase in choices, a lot of these people are not even 8's. And competition will drive prices down too.

I'm not worried about OF since most of them probably added to their subscribers through the club anyway. Once that club money drys up, OF money is low, and they don't want to actually work hard at a job, the streets are going to be paradise!

Peter Rammer
04-21-24, 08:58
She once 'walked' St Pete streets and does listcrawler. I stopped dealing with her antics 10+ years ago.

https://iontb.com/fhp-teams-up-with-pinellas-law-enforcement-agencies-to-focus-on-motorcycle-safety-8-felony-arrests/

Rockit
04-21-24, 14:50
She once 'walked' St Pete streets and does listcrawler. I stopped dealing with her antics 10+ years ago.

https://iontb.com/fhp-teams-up-with-pinellas-law-enforcement-agencies-to-focus-on-motorcycle-safety-8-felony-arrests/She got busted in Grady's March Sadness sting in Polk County back in March too. Then saw a St Pete report from Smitty Qbert saying he saw her SW'ing near 34th and ArabDude mentioned dropping off his kids off in her pool for a 40 spot soon after she got out of Grady's big house. She's a fairly cool gal and even posted a good review of her years ago in the Tampa thread. She always had her bike parked out in front of her room. Once you knew it was her's, you knew which hotel and room she was staying in just by driving thru the parking lot. Wish her well, but she's definitely on a bad run lately.

https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/7272229488/1

Hngblkm
04-22-24, 12:41
She got busted in Grady's March Sadness sting in Polk County back in March too. Then saw a St Pete report from Smitty Qbert saying he saw her SW'ing near 34th and ArabDude mentioned dropping off his kids off in her pool for a 40 spot soon after she got out of Grady's big house. She's a fairly cool gal and even posted a good review of her years ago in the Tampa thread. She always had her bike parked out in front of her room. Once you knew it was her's, you knew which hotel and room she was staying in just by driving thru the parking lot. Wish her well, but she's definitely on a bad run lately.

https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/7272229488/1Is the devil!

Too many bait and switch type scenarios. So much for truth in advertising.