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JustACbtGuy
05-16-17, 16:41
https://www.news4jax.com/news/3-massage-parlor-employees-charged-with-prostitution
And again and again. Meanwhile what is the murder rate in Jax?
NMJ.Well, that explains why no one was there, even though the outside door was open, today.
"The Sheriff's Office said a vice officer went into the business and paid $50 for a half-hour massage. In a similar event, police said, a vice cop paid $60 for a half-hour massage. Police said in a third event, a detective paid for a $60 half-hour massage".
The poor guy had to go three different times to collect evidence.Well, I'm guessing that two of the officers got a table shower. LOL.
Was this Hans or somewhere else?
DWaltonXXX
05-17-17, 00:01
All violent crimes are down vs. 30 years ago. Not just in Jax, but across the country and across the world. It's the safest the world has ever been. No sarcasm, it's a true story.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/3-massage-parlor-employees-charged-with-prostitution
And again and again. Meanwhile what is the murder rate in Jax?
NMJ.
Vandelay Ent
05-17-17, 08:18
All violent crimes are down vs. 30 years ago. Not just in Jax, but across the country and across the world. It's the safest the world has ever been. No sarcasm, it's a true story.Jacksonville homicides reach 117 in 2016.
Total is most for city since 2008; has community leaders concerned.
December 20,2016.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/jacksonville-homicides-reach-117-in-2016
Continuing to work curbing this horrendous crime.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/9-women-arrested-in-citywide-prostitution-sting
TomCat4871
05-17-17, 23:02
Hmn. Very familiar. Either BP or FB but can't locate.
Anybody know this one?
Continuing to work curbing this horrendous crime.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/9-women-arrested-in-citywide-prostitution-sting
DWaltonXXX
05-18-17, 00:10
That one data point doesn't dispute my claim at all.
The crime index in Jacksonville in 2015 is 377.1 vs. 580.9 in 2001. That's a 35% decrease. The crime index is an index of major crimes: murder, rape, robbery, etc.
And that's done with 15% fewer police officers / citizen, too.
Jacksonville homicides reach 117 in 2016.
Total is most for city since 2008; has community leaders concerned.
December 20,2016.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/jacksonville-homicides-reach-117-in-2016
WhiteNite2000
05-20-17, 13:23
Watch out for these areas folks. The boys are out!
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/police-arrest-9-johns-in-prostitution-crackdown
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/police-arrest-9-johns-in-prostitution-crackdownUgh. Just think about it. The girl you just scooped may have just entertained some of these characters. No thanks!
WhiteNite2000
05-21-17, 16:47
Ugh. Just think about it. The girl you just scooped may have just entertained some of these characters. No thanks!...are truly a hot mess. Maybe that's why they feel they need to charge a mint.
Ugh. Just think about it. The girl you just scooped may have just entertained some of these characters. No thanks!On the other hand, I always assumed when providers told me I was classier & handsomer than most of the guys they see, that was just part of the hustle. Now I'm thinking maybe sometimes they tell the truth.
(Obligatory LOL).
Just heard on the news (690) . Monger picked up a SW named April and she and her DB assaulted and stole the guys car.
Rick Dugan
05-24-17, 13:45
JSO has recently decided to concentrate its resources on the Southside, busting grown adults for having the audacity to buy and sell sex. Meanwhile, someone is getting killed about every third day on the Northside and who knows how many violent felons with outstanding warrants are likely roaming around up there. I suppose it makes sense in one way though. After all, defenseless women and nervous Johns resist much less than violent criminals.
WhiteNite2000
05-24-17, 16:28
JSO has recently decided to concentrate its resources on the Southside, busting grown adults for having the audacity to buy and sell sex. Meanwhile, someone is getting killed about every third day on the Northside and who knows how many violent felons with outstanding warrants are likely roaming around up there. I suppose it makes sense in one way though. After all, defenseless women and nervous Johns resist much less than violent criminals.It seems someone is killed on the north side every damn day. Every third day would be an improvement! LOL.
Luke Cage668
05-27-17, 20:27
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/florida-woman-accused-of-paying-child-to-have-sex-with-her/527280473
Stewie Griffin
05-27-17, 20:49
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/florida-woman-accused-of-paying-child-to-have-sex-with-her/527280473Damn. My man was getting $300. And there I was giving it away for free at that age. LOL.
"The operation was run out of his truck and a rented motel room at the Quality Inn on Dix Ellis Trail from November to February, according to the affidavit. Heroin addicts were exploited and recruited to have sex with strangers to pay off drug debts. Their services were advertised on bulletin board websites such as Backpage.com. ".
http://jacksonville.com/news/public-safety/2017-05-31/jacksonville-man-43-arrested-human-trafficking-charges
Jactionville
06-02-17, 21:27
I'm not sure if I believe ALL of this, but good for her. Maybe she can now enjoy being a mother. http://www.news4jax.com/health/former-prostitute-sheds-light-on-role-of-opioid-addiction-in-human-trafficking.
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/photos/photos-prostitution-arrests-in-jacksonville-in-june/531875537
Luke Cage668
06-13-17, 12:26
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/atlantic-beach-police-arrest-18-people-in-drug-prostitution-sting/532904151
Be careful out there.
Dodged a f-ing bullet there. Katelyn is lola from BP, saw her in the last 2 weeks. Kristen is well known and I saw her friend last week off mayport road and Kristen was just leaving the room. Smh, that's just too close for comfort. Maybe it's about time for the SB sites.
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/atlantic-beach-police-arrest-18-people-in-drug-prostitution-sting/532904151
Be careful out there.
Luke Cage668
06-13-17, 13:07
Dodged a f-ing bullet there. Katelyn is lola from BP, saw her in the last 2 weeks. Kristen is well known and I saw her friend last week off mayport road and Kristen was just leaving the room. Smh, that's just too close for comfort. Maybe it's about time for the SB sites.Penny Pleases too pinched too.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/jacksonville-police-arrest-11-women-in-prostitution-roundup
TomCat4871
06-14-17, 00:37
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/photos/photos-18-arrested-in-atlantic-beach-drug-prostitution-sting/532886311#.
At least one familiar face there as a local provider of bbgj's (bare back gum jobs).
Stewie Griffin
06-14-17, 08:07
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/jacksonville-police-arrest-11-women-in-prostitution-roundupOne of those girls just got out of matrix less than two weeks ago. That did not take long.
RogerDoger6969
06-14-17, 16:55
I'm not sure if I believe ALL of this, but good for her. Maybe she can now enjoy being a mother. http://www.news4jax.com/health/former-prostitute-sheds-light-on-role-of-opioid-addiction-in-human-trafficking.She was good couple of times I saw her. Twice off Blanding at apartment and once at hotel off San Jose Blvd. She like to be told she looked good. Told her she looked great and she took care of me. Glad she is finding her way I guess.
WalnutDoor84
06-14-17, 18:00
One of those girls just got out of matrix less than two weeks ago. That did not take long.LOL, the one on the top row (Tammy) just got out of there. While my junk was in her mouth, she was going on an on about how she needed a little money to leave Philips Hwy. I wished her luck. Apparently, she wasn't ready to put the street life behind her.
Stewie Griffin
06-14-17, 18:30
LOL, the one on the top row (Tammy) just got out of there. While my junk was in her mouth, she was going on an on about how she needed a little money to leave Philips Hwy. I wished her luck. Apparently, she wasn't ready to put the street life behind her.Thats actually the one I was talking about. LOL.
She was good couple of times I saw her. Twice off Blanding at apartment and once at hotel off San Jose Blvd. She like to be told she looked good. Told her she looked great and she took care of me. Glad she is finding her way I guess.She was notorious for constantly wanting to be told how good she looked. I found it quite distracting.
She was good couple of times I saw her. Twice off Blanding at apartment and once at hotel off San Jose Blvd. She like to be told she looked good. Told her she looked great and she took care of me. Glad she is finding her way I guess.The whole story was fabricated. If what you mean by, finding her way, is finding another means to getting her candy and $, then yes, she is apparently doing that.
Member #6355
06-17-17, 08:11
I'm not sure if I believe ALL of this, but good for her. Maybe she can now enjoy being a mother. http://www.news4jax.com/health/former-prostitute-sheds-light-on-role-of-opioid-addiction-in-human-trafficking.I saw her once at a fairly reasonable rate. Had to pick her up down the block from her house. Her parents were on the lookout and might have spotted me, LOL. She was fun but wanted constant reminders of how good she looked and what a great job the surgeon did on her boobs, which were actually a bit lopsided. After she became "Russian," her rates skyrocketed and I decided once was enough.
I saw her once at a fairly reasonable rate. Had to pick her up down the block from her house. Her parents were on the lookout and might have spotted me, LOL. She was fun but wanted constant reminders of how good she looked and what a great job the surgeon did on her boobs, which were actually a bit lopsided. After she became "Russian," her rates skyrocketed and I decided once was enough.She wantin some verbal reassurance to stroke her ego didn't bother me too much. As long as she didn't sound like a broken record & she got the job done, I would throw her a couple compliments.
"Just shut the hell up & put it in your mouth".
PB.
Fishguy717
06-17-17, 15:54
She wantin some verbal reassurance to stroke her ego didn't bother me too much. As long as she didn't sound like a broken record & she got the job done, I would throw her a couple compliments.
"Just shut the hell up & put it in your mouth".
PB.Yeah, here's a few from back in her better days.
The whole story was fabricated. If what you mean by, finding her way, is finding another means to getting her candy and $, then yes, she is apparently doing that.Time to let go. Most men never get to be with their dream girl. You did. Time to wake up.
Yeah, here's a few from back in her better days.I dunno how yall managed to get pictures like that, especially the one from the side fish guy. I guess you brought your own photographer with you. Whenever I tried to take pics shed scream so loud the whole neighborhood would know about it. Has to be the most crazy and insane and dangerous woman/person I've ever known no doubt. It was so bad I think I've developed ptsd from the whole experience. They don't make them like her in the looks department anymore imho though. I thought her tits looked perfect even when she had to live in garbage cans for a few nights. The only thing that freeked me out about her looks was her floppy dumbo ears which I thought was job related but now I see she had them when she was a kid too. I hope she's gone for good so I can start forgetting about the whole thing. I got a bad feeling somebody that unstable will be back after her $ source runs out or whatever the hell shes really up to nowadays. Maybe shes just waiting til the 3rd baby pops out like last time
Bobb Sledd
06-18-17, 04:57
Yeah, here's a few from back in her better days.The only time I saw her was during her last pregnancy; late into her eight month. Before she became Russian. Fun provider (especially while preggers) as long as you can ignore of course her constant yammering in need of praise. Best to keep her mouth occupied on more pressing matters.
I saw her once at a fairly reasonable rate. Had to pick her up down the block from her house. Her parents were on the lookout and might have spotted me, LOL. She was fun but wanted constant reminders of how good she looked and what a great job the surgeon did on her boobs, which were actually a bit lopsided. After she became "Russian," her rates skyrocketed and I decided once was enough.It was probably, uh, somebody elses house. Her pop lives up north and her mom moves into a new apartment about once a year. Cant afford a house apparently.
She wantin some verbal reassurance to stroke her ego didn't bother me too much. As long as she didn't sound like a broken record & she got the job done, I would throw her a couple compliments.
"Just shut the hell up & put it in your mouth".
PB.http://models.naked.com/photo/katrina-juana/16450
http://models.naked.com/photo/katrina-juana/16450Those pics are airbrushed, filtered and photoshopped.
http://models.naked.com/photo/katrina-juana/16450Was she Mexican at one time?? Too freakin hilarious😝 Nice pix tho.
Now we're all waitin on SWelsh to comment.
-PB.
Old School
07-21-17, 09:49
http://models.naked.com/photo/katrina-juana/16450When she looked great. I recognize the living quarters in a couple of the pics. I had to watch her put on makeup, get dressed up and tell her how beautiful she looked. Awesome session and I thanked FishGuy for connecting me with her. Then it was a slow decline, constantly changing location, eventually low-end motels and walking. I am thinking the whole interview was another, "Don't I look beautiful, you should make a movie of my life. ".
Wish her well!
When she looked great. I recognize the living quarters in a couple of the pics. I had to watch her put on makeup, get dressed up and tell her how beautiful she looked. Awesome session and I thanked FishGuy for connecting me with her. Then it was a slow decline, constantly changing location, eventually low-end motels and walking. I am thinking the whole interview was another, "Don't I look beautiful, you should make a movie of my life. ".
Wish her well!When she looked good, I picked her up in OP and drove her all the way back to my place on SS. Can you imagine that drive with the constant "baby, don't I look beautiful, look at my bag, guess how expensive my perfume is, didn't the doc do a great job, am I beautiful". At one point, I thought about driving us both over the Buckman bridge!
Bobb Sledd
07-21-17, 10:10
When she looked good, I picked her up in OP and drove her all the way back to my place on SS. Can you imagine that drive with the constant "baby, don't I look beautiful, look at my bag, guess how expensive my perfume is, didn't the doc do a great job, am I beautiful". At one point, I thought about driving us both over the Buckman bridge!Sounds like everyone's experience with her are about the same. Mine was when she was about 8-months preggers. Fun time, but the constant yammering was a bit of a turn-off. Had to keep her mouth filled to get through it.
Not My Job
07-21-17, 10:41
I only saw her a few times when she was at Sins & do remember the constant "do you think I'm hot? I remember learning to switch her from L1 to L2 just to keep her mouth full LOL!
NMJ.
Her only video I could find online:
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?498417-Who-is-the-hot-blonde-in-pink
Her only video I could find online:
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?498417-Who-is-the-hot-blonde-in-pinkI always found it odd that "ex" prostitutes get a free pass. "I know that you banged thousands of random dudes but now that you say you don't do it anymore it's like it never happened". Weird.
Was she Mexican at one time?? Too freakin hilarious😝 Nice pix tho.
Now we're all waitin on SWelsh to comment.
-PB.She already told me about katrina juana a long time ago. Is this why she's back in the news again or has she finally returned to the market? She's half pr.
Luke Cage668
07-29-17, 09:25
https://www.news4jax.com/news/women-charged-after-prostitution-investigation-at-massage-business
Are you guys actually paying them that much for extras? Damn LOL.
Handicapper
07-29-17, 11:47
https://www.news4jax.com/news/women-charged-after-prostitution-investigation-at-massage-business
Are you guys actually paying them that much for extras? Damn LOL.What I always find funny is that mongers review these places and describe the ladies as mid 30's and they end up being mid 50's to 60's.
Tony Tisdale
07-29-17, 17:21
What I always find funny is that mongers review these places and describe the ladies as mid 30's and they end up being mid 50's to 60's.That's why the lights are dimmed low.
Aguadefumar
08-03-17, 11:20
Is this 1969 again? . oh just flakka.
http://us.tomonews.com/woman-high-on-drugs-rolls-around-naked-on-streets-of-new-york-3104617
BlueDevil90
08-03-17, 16:59
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/photos/photos-august-prostitution-arrests-in-jacksonville/580750686
Just saw kammy not to long ago. Why don't they just let the girls be great LOL.
DWaltonXXX
08-03-17, 17:31
I just saw Kammy yesterday. I was going to come here and talk her up. She was really good.
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/photos/photos-august-prostitution-arrests-in-jacksonville/580750686
Just saw kammy not to long ago. Why don't they just let the girls be great LOL.
I just saw Kammy yesterday. I was going to come here and talk her up. She was really good.Got Laci rides and Jennifer, Ricki's friend.
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/photos/photos-august-prostitution-arrests-in-jacksonville/580750686
Just saw kammy not to long ago. Why don't they just let the girls be great LOL.Anyone notice the 3rd girl in that report? Yummy Jenn. Dang. Ht.
BlueDevil90
08-03-17, 18:59
I just saw Kammy yesterday. I was going to come here and talk her up. She was really good.She was probably my top 3 since I've moved here. Hopefully she's out soon.
TroublePlay
08-04-17, 09:45
https://www.news4jax.com/news/women-charged-after-prostitution-investigation-at-massage-business
Are you guys actually paying them that much for extras? Damn LOL.No. That's just what Unc l e is offering. Or just the ladies asking rate, haha.
DWaltonXXX
08-04-17, 12:07
Uses her real name and age in her ads, apparently. Huh.
Anyone notice the 3rd girl in that report? Yummy Jenn. Dang. Ht.
TooDrunkToFuk
08-04-17, 12:57
Bail can't be very much. Maybe they would show some dream worthy gratitude?
TooDrunkToFuk
08-04-17, 13:07
Melissa pled out and got time served. Yummy jen has big girl court on my birthday, 8/23.
Bail is 5 large.
TooDrunkToFuk
08-05-17, 20:53
Good God almighty, free at last!
Yummy jen is free!
Anyone seen her since release? She is advertising again in all still at Lane.
Did you see the report of the JSO officer (off duty) getting busted for DUI up Phillips Hiway. Said he was with friends at a 5 Points bar and was heading home. Problem is, he lives in Ortega. Guess he was taking that "Phillips Hiway" shortcut a lot of us when going home from a bar at 1 or 2 in the morning.
Mr C out.
WhiteNite2000
08-15-17, 07:28
Be careful gents. LEO just ran a reverse sting with female vice on some Johns. Hope this wasn't one of you!
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/police-arrest-5-johns-in-san-marco-prostitution-sting
WhiteNite2000
08-15-17, 07:30
Never heard of it being done quite this way:
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/prostitution-roundup-nets-6-woman-plus-man-who-arranged-deal
Never heard of it being done quite this way:
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/prostitution-roundup-nets-6-woman-plus-man-who-arranged-deal60 days for $40? Me thinks he had sound other shit going on. Wouldn't most get a court date and a fine?
ZoomLens2013
08-15-17, 09:48
Hope this wasn't one of you!
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/police-arrest-5-johns-in-san-marco-prostitution-stingThis is the main reason I am choosing to avoid BP girls. With the spotty comms and the "30 minute notice" that some seem to have, I just don't want to take that chance.
Luke Cage668
08-15-17, 12:10
This is the main reason I am choosing to avoid BP girls. With the spotty comms and the "30 minute notice" that some seem to have, I just don't want to take that chance.That's why I've been swan hunting more, BP girls are becoming more and more sketchy.
WhiteNite2000
08-15-17, 14:24
That's why I've been swan hunting more, BP girls are becoming more and more sketchy.
...you cannot beat! When Jessica went comms dark on me last night and many others were very slow responding, I found a SWer for 25! Saved quite a bit didn't I!?
FloridaBiker
08-15-17, 16:42
In Jacksonville a BP girl is just a SW with a working phone.
Sad, but true.
I might sound stupid but what SWer or SWan stand for?
...you cannot beat! When Jessica went comms dark on me last night and many others were very slow responding, I found a SWer for 25! Saved quite a bit didn't I!?
Bobb Sledd
08-16-17, 02:28
I might sound stupid but what SWer or SWan stand for?Street walker.
DWaltonXXX
09-10-17, 14:49
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/police-arrest-5-johns-in-san-marco-prostitution-sting
Highwayman69
09-10-17, 19:18
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/police-arrest-5-johns-in-san-marco-prostitution-stingI am not postive but I think this is the ad that the guy arrested responded to.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/blonde-meeting-now-very-amazing/12352402
Guys if you do not know the woman is for real or you cannot find other ads then stay away. You want to stay safe as you can. I have see this ad before but have never been able to verify that chick. Set me straight if I am wrong but I think that may ave been the ad.
WhiteNite2000
09-10-17, 20:03
I am not postive but I think this is the ad that the guy arrested responded to.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/blonde-meeting-now-very-amazing/12352402
Guys if you do not know the woman is for real or you cannot find other ads then stay away. You want to stay safe as you can. I have see this ad before but have never been able to verify that chick. Set me straight if I am wrong but I think that may ave been the ad.This was the incident where JSO vice were using providers' phones to contact clients. After vice arrested the girls, of course.
MyDarkSide
09-10-17, 20:10
This was the incident where JSO vice were using providers' phones to contact clients. After vice arrested the girls, of course.? Not that I'd care to fight the battle but, if true, something inherently wrong about reaching out to guys unsolicited. This is a scary version.
WhiteNite2000
09-10-17, 20:29
? Not that I'd care to fight the battle but, if true, something inherently wrong about reaching out to guys unsolicited. This is a scary version.If vice reached out to them. I'm thinking it's the former. Either way, troubling.
I am not postive but I think this is the ad that the guy arrested responded to.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/blonde-meeting-now-very-amazing/12352402
Guys if you do not know the woman is for real or you cannot find other ads then stay away. You want to stay safe as you can. I have see this ad before but have never been able to verify that chick. Set me straight if I am wrong but I think that may ave been the ad.Just the extra special characters in the ad title really throws up a red flag. Most providers on BP won't go through that work. Sure, they will use a few but not that many?
I am not postive but I think this is the ad that the guy arrested responded to.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/blonde-meeting-now-very-amazing/12352402
Guys if you do not know the woman is for real or you cannot find other ads then stay away. You want to stay safe as you can. I have see this ad before but have never been able to verify that chick. Set me straight if I am wrong but I think that may ave been the ad.For the record, I think you are right. I responded to that ad also, and the response just "felt" odd. Glad I listened to my instincts.
MyDarkSide
09-11-17, 22:19
Fwiw the newspaper article is dated 8/14 while the ad is dated 9/7. If really the ad (can't find earlier version. Or new arrests published on 9/8) I find the wording "girl next store" amusing given the review such an ad likely undergoes prior to sting. I can't believe anyone is bold enough to tofft.
This was the incident where JSO vice were using providers' phones to contact clients. After vice arrested the girls, of course.Thats crazy. Can't imagine a trick thinking its cool to call. Also don't know if this ever happened to anyone else, but I've had a few say "pick up some condoms". Errrrr that's me busting a you turn. If these chics don't seem a tad concerned and they are open using incriminating language then fuck that. Don't even risk it.
DWaltonXXX
09-17-17, 09:44
Legitimate provider ask you to pick up condoms or bring your own. Seriously, I can probably name 80 of them. I don't like the hassle, but it's not indicative of a sting.
Thats crazy. Can't imagine a trick thinking its cool to call. Also don't know if this ever happened to anyone else, but I've had a few say "pick up some condoms". Errrrr that's me busting a you turn. If these chics don't seem a tad concerned and they are open using incriminating language then fuck that. Don't even risk it.
Legitimate provider ask you to pick up condoms or bring your own. Seriously, I can probably name 80 of them. I don't like the hassle, but it's not indicative of a sting.I like to take my own but just they can run out of covers just like I have at times. Now I don't like when they ask me to pick up cigarettes.
Legitimate provider ask you to pick up condoms or bring your own. Seriously, I can probably name 80 of them. I don't like the hassle, but it's not indicative of a sting.Yeah I get it, but they could say bring coverage / rain coat something like that. Just don't like the actual word. Don't know if its paranoia.
Maybe just over cautious but that's how I roll.
Thats crazy. Can't imagine a trick thinking its cool to call. Also don't know if this ever happened to anyone else, but I've had a few say "pick up some condoms". Errrrr that's me busting a you turn. If these chics don't seem a tad concerned and they are open using incriminating language then fuck that. Don't even risk it.For me, its if I've seen her before.
Like Jess, I asked her if I should bring condoms and she said yes, because she didn't know if she was going to get to the store. It was my 2nd time seeing her.
For me, its if I've seen her before.
Like Jess, I asked her if I should bring condoms and she said yes, because she didn't know if she was going to get to the store. It was my 2nd time seeing her.Yeah man, if you've seen them I agree that's different. Guess I just like them being more careful with words. Just my thing.
Bobb Sledd
09-18-17, 03:17
Yeah man, if you've seen them I agree that's different. Guess I just like them being more careful with words. Just my thing.More careful with words? Like the silly practice of referring to time spent with a provider (prostitute) as a "dream"? Does anyone really think we're fooling anyone? Do you really think the practice would mask our actions if brought to a court of law? Maybe a discussion better suited for the Woodshed, so I'll just leave it at that.
More careful with words? Like the silly practice of referring to time spent with a provider (prostitute) as a "dream"? Does anyone really think we're fooling anyone? Do you really think the practice would mask our actions if brought to a court of law? Maybe a discussion better suited for the Woodshed, so I'll just leave it at that.Well with all due respect, the hobby we indulge in is illegal. Wouldn't be too arrogant as to think that certain words are not enough to catch a charge. Yes using words like rain coat & jimmy hat could be a game changer. Again do as you please, but I don't want my face blasted on the news for being reckless. It's just like hiring an escort is completely legal, paying said escort for her time is legal. Paying a prostitute to fuck you or suck your dick is a crime. Word choice is very important in this hobby.
Man killed outside strip club parking lot.
JSO: altercation started inside club.
Hope you guys are all safe.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/jso-investigating-death-on-westside?breaking_news=5313&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Breaking%20News%20Alert&utm_term=wjxt_breaking
DWaltonXXX
09-29-17, 16:54
Does not make illegal activities legal. Claiming that you're paying an escort "for her time" instead of for sex doesn't change a thing about the legality of your actions.
Well with all due respect, the hobby we indulge in is illegal. Wouldn't be too arrogant as to think that certain words are not enough to catch a charge. Yes using words like rain coat & jimmy hat could be a game changer. Again do as you please, but I don't want my face blasted on the news for being reckless. It's just like hiring an escort is completely legal, paying said escort for her time is legal. Paying a prostitute to fuck you or suck your dick is a crime. Word choice is very important in this hobby.
Does not make illegal activities legal. Claiming that you're paying an escort "for her time" instead of for sex doesn't change a thing about the legality of your actions.No shit. But it won't hold up in court if you arent definitive.
Bobb Sledd
09-30-17, 01:11
No shit. But it won't hold up in court if you arent definitive.And that sir, is where I believe you're wrong. Using that logic, a person arrested for telling an undercover narcotics cop that they want to buy an eight-ball, could never be convicted of buying drugs since he used a slang term in place of asking for an eighth of an ounce of cocaine. Simply presenting examples from this site, demonstrating the wide use of the vernacular, would be enough to show the correlation. The only posters that might have a chance to deny that their reports are their own actions are those few, those very few, who have ALWAYS reported their escapades by saying "this happened to a friend of mine".
And that sir, is where I believe you're wrong. Using that logic, a person arrested for telling an undercover narcotics cop that they want to buy an eight-ball, could never be convicted of buying drugs since he used a slang term in place of asking for an eighth of an ounce of cocaine. Simply presenting examples from this site, demonstrating the wide use of the vernacular, would be enough to show the correlation. The only posters that might have a chance to deny that their reports are their own actions are those few, those very few, who have ALWAYS reported their escapades by saying "this happened to a friend of mine".Feel like we are running in circles. I could walk up to a cop, hell to a judge, the president, fbi agent what have you and say I have paid 100 different hookers for oral sex, anal sex and vaginal intercourse and they couldn't do a single thing about it. In thia particular criminal activity, the crime is actually being caught in the transaction or solicitation. I again acknowledge the hobby is illegal. And yes hiring an escort for her time is 100 percent legal. That's why they can market and advertise. Also why there is a screening process. Now, obviously the act is illegal when one turns around and pays for sex, but unless an officer witnesses the transaction or solicitation then there is nothing they can do. No wander there are still people getting blasted on the internet because of stings. I tried to simply share some info I know. Really didn't join this sight to debate the law, because to me I will always continue with caution. I'm not a know it all, but I've been yolked with a SW in my car and fortunately she had nothing illegal on her and wasn't a fugitive. Cop knew what was going on but nothing they could do. To me you aeem to A. Be over paranoid or B. Be an officer yourself that may feel challenged, either way I add comments in an attempt to perhaps get some good advice myself. Good luck out there.
Bobb Sledd
09-30-17, 10:45
Feel like we are running in circles. I could walk up to a cop, hell to a judge, the president, fbi agent what have you and say I have paid 100 different hookers for oral sex, anal sex and vaginal intercourse and they couldn't do a single thing about it. In thia particular criminal activity, the crime is actually being caught in the transaction or solicitation. I again acknowledge the hobby is illegal. And yes hiring an escort for her time is 100 percent legal. That's why they can market and advertise. Also why there is a screening process. Now, obviously the act is illegal when one turns around and pays for sex, but unless an officer witnesses the transaction or solicitation then there is nothing they can do. No wander there are still people getting blasted on the internet because of stings. I tried to simply share some info I know. Really didn't join this sight to debate the law, because to me I will always continue with caution. I'm not a know it all, but I've been yolked with a SW in my car and fortunately she had nothing illegal on her and wasn't a fugitive. Cop knew what was going on but nothing they could do. To me you aeem to A. Be over paranoid or B. Be an officer yourself that may feel challenged, either way I add comments in an attempt to perhaps get some good advice myself. Good luck out there.Dan, in a sense your argument proves my point; though from a different perspective. My point has always been that using the "I fell asleep and had a dream" story line is useless. Your point, if I understand it correctly, is that unless caught in the act, law enforcement and the courts can't touch you. For the sake of discussion, I'll agree with you. If it's true though, why bother to write a post from the "I had a dream perspective"? (Not necessarily you, but others.) I can assure you I'm not paranoid (I've been tested). In fact, I'm coming from a place of being less paranoid; masking one's reports behind a dream would be more paranoid. As for my being a cop, I'm not, and there are those on this site that know me and can attest to that. In closing, let me say that my commenting on your post was not an attack on you. Merely a response on the last comment made in the discussion. I see this as a discussion, an exchange of opinions; a debate of sorts. It's good to discuss, exchange opinions, debate. I think it's one of the things that's lacking in our society. I compliment you for not taking this debate into the gutter, as so many other discussions on this site have been taken. Happy hunting! Stay Safe!
WhiteNite2000
09-30-17, 12:31
Feel like we are running in circles. I could walk up to a cop, hell to a judge, the president, fbi agent what have you and say I have paid 100 different hookers for oral sex, anal sex and vaginal intercourse and they couldn't do a single thing about it. In thia particular criminal activity, the crime is actually being caught in the transaction or solicitation. I again acknowledge the hobby is illegal. And yes hiring an escort for her time is 100 percent legal. That's why they can market and advertise. Also why there is a screening process. Now, obviously the act is illegal when one turns around and pays for sex, but unless an officer witnesses the transaction or solicitation then there is nothing they can do. No wander there are still people getting blasted on the internet because of stings. I tried to simply share some info I know. Really didn't join this sight to debate the law, because to me I will always continue with caution. I'm not a know it all, but I've been yolked with a SW in my car and fortunately she had nothing illegal on her and wasn't a fugitive. Cop knew what was going on but nothing they could do. To me you aeem to A. Be over paranoid or B. Be an officer yourself that may feel challenged, either way I add comments in an attempt to perhaps get some good advice myself. Good luck out there.Personally, I am NEVER explicit with anyone at any time. I'd rather say things in such a way that I am not handing them my ass on a platter. I'm not going to make their lives easy, that's for sure. For example, do you say:
-Hey, I want to come phuck you for 200 or hey, I want to come have fun for 200?
Make their jobs as hard as you can; make them work for that conviction. Years ago, the DA tried to convict a hooker because she told an undercover that she provides full service. He, of course, implied that she was referring to sex. However, the defense countered this claim by telling the jury and the court that when you go to a gas station and the sign says self service or "FULL SERVICE", does the latter mean you're going to have sex? You get the pix. Ambiguity is better than an explicit exchange with these people. A good rule of thumb is that whatever you can legally do in a strip club, you can do in a motel room. I've asked LEO vice girls to just get into their panties and bra and dance for me! Wouldn't it be nice to see LEO dance in that get up! Lol
I knew she wouldn't do it but it made it difficult to do anything to me because what I asked for was legal. In order to get around this, the girl (LEO) would say that it's only a full service escort service and that was the only option. I declined! They don't like when you play them like this but I always left the winner. I've escaped a many vice stings such as this. Whatever comes out of your mouth, make sure it sounds good and legal for the optics and audio recordings. In other words, and again, would you rather the courts hear or see an audio/visual system recording you ask to have fun for 200 or phuck for 200?
Legitimate provider ask you to pick up condoms or bring your own. Seriously, I can probably name 80 of them. I don't like the hassle, but it's not indicative of a sting.This exact scenario happened to me last night. In a text message she states "$100 for a half hour" . She goes on to give me directions to her house and then sends a text asking me to stop at the store on the corner near her place and pick up protection. In my mind, I was envisioning a prosecuting attorney's opening statement to a journey reciting these text messages after I show up at this location with condoms in my pocket.
I chose to error on the side of caution, text her back that I had no idea what she was talking about and bolted.
Gave Carrie a call and she exceeded my expectations on every level.
WhiteNite2000
09-30-17, 18:36
This exact scenario happened to me last night. In a text message she states "$100 for a half hour" . She goes on to give me directions to her house and then sends a text asking me to stop at the store on the corner near her place and pick up protection. In my mind, I was envisioning a prosecuting attorney's opening statement to a journey reciting these text messages after I show up at this location with condoms in my pocket.
I chose to error on the side of caution, text her back that I had no idea what she was talking about and bolted.
Gave Carrie a call and she exceeded my expectations on every level.I do one of 2 things, I either don't respond to the request in text or I respond with a generic, "we're fine. " Of course, once I show up, I leave raincoat and money in car; go in to see provider; look around thoroughly, and explain to her that I have to get my things from the car. This can help you to bolt if she's jacked up or you can just explain that asking for those things are a no no and I also try to educate her that it would be better for her to have them than to ask for them because once she starts talking about sex and money, she places her and I in danger. So I hope you guys are using this as a teachable moment. Money and a conversation eluding to sex can place you in a precarious situation.
I do one of 2 things, I either don't respond to the request in text or I respond with a generic, "we're fine. " Of course, once I show up, I leave raincoat and money in car; go in to see provider; look around thoroughly, and explain to her that I have to get my things from the car. This can help you to bolt if she's jacked up or you can just explain that asking for those things are a no no and I also try to educate her that it would be better for her to have them than to ask for them because once she starts talking about sex and money, she places her and I in danger. So I hope you guys are using this as a teachable moment. Money and a conversation eluding to sex can place you in a precarious situation.Yep. If they say it (especially in text) I'm outtie.
ThePrivAsst
11-08-17, 09:59
https://www.xbiz.com/news/231580/report-eros-guides-call-center-is-raided
ZoomLens2013
12-19-17, 09:33
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/jacksonville-police-investigate-death-in-baymeadows-area
Saw this on Facebook today. Meetup gone wrong?
WhiteNite2000
12-19-17, 10:28
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/jacksonville-police-investigate-death-in-baymeadows-area
Saw this on Facebook today. Meetup gone wrong?Truth is, I don't think some of us are aware of how dangerous this hobby really is. We go see these girls who, many times, have pimps hanging out in the cut. Whenever you mix drugs, prostitution, etc. Together, so many things can go wrong including robbery, death, and arrests, to name a few. That's why I always carry ole Smithy! I hope I never have to use it. I'd rather lose a few bucks than to get into some pissing contest with some broad and her DB. Be careful out there gents. This hobby certainly isn't worth losing it all. Many of these girls have very little to lose compared to most of us.
This exact scenario happened to me last night. In a text message she states "$100 for a half hour" . She goes on to give me directions to her house and then sends a text asking me to stop at the store on the corner near her place and pick up protection. In my mind, I was envisioning a prosecuting attorney's opening statement to a journey reciting these text messages after I show up at this location with condoms in my pocket.
I chose to error on the side of caution, text her back that I had no idea what she was talking about and bolted.
Gave Carrie a call and she exceeded my expectations on every level.I got a similar, but slightly less obviously worded text from one of the higher rated BP girls and it made me hesitate, but I ended up following through no worse for wear with no trouble. Definitely wouldn't have even considered it had I not known from this forum that the girl was totally cool.
This forum is a gold mine fellas. And also makes good reading! Flip through as many of the recent but older pages as you have time for and it may save you a trip to Uncles place.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/jacksonville-police-arrest-7-johns-in-prostitution-sting
Personally, I am NEVER explicit with anyone at any time. I'd rather say things in such a way that I am not handing them my ass on a platter. I'm not going to make their lives easy, that's for sure. For example, do you say:
-Hey, I want to come phuck you for 200 or hey, I want to come have fun for 200?
Make their jobs as hard as you can; make them work for that conviction. Years ago, the DA tried to convict a hooker because she told an undercover that she provides full service. He, of course, implied that she was referring to sex. However, the defense countered this claim by telling the jury and the court that when you go to a gas station and the sign says self service or "FULL SERVICE", does the latter mean you're going to have sex? You get the pix. Ambiguity is better than an explicit exchange with these people. A good rule of thumb is that whatever you can legally do in a strip club, you can do in a motel room. I've asked LEO vice girls to just get into their panties and bra and dance for me! Wouldn't it be nice to see LEO dance in that get up! Lol
I knew she wouldn't do it but it made it difficult to do anything to me because what I asked for was legal. In order to get around this, the girl (LEO) would say that it's only a full service escort service and that was the only option. I declined! They don't like when you play them like this but I always left the winner. I've escaped a many vice stings such as this. Whatever comes out of your mouth, make sure it sounds good and legal for the optics and audio recordings. In other words, and again, would you rather the courts hear or see an audio/visual system recording you ask to have fun for 200 or phuck for 200?I second this.
I mean, how hard is it, really, to not be explicit? Would you rather be tape-recorded in conversation ((or have text copied) with a provider asking for 'headache relief' or 'blow job'? Carry a bottle of aspirin in your car and say you were just referring to a neck massage?
A simple choice of words (or poor choice) could be the difference of thousands of dollars, terrible humiliation on TV news, and a lifetime red flag on a background check for ANYbody who wants to know about your skeletons because poor choice of words!
Also booked out of town.
Would your photo and arrest info be transferred back to your hometown so you could end up on the news courtesy of your out-of-town uncle, or would it stay local?
DWaltonXXX
02-08-18, 12:02
Using code doesn't protect you.
I second this.
I mean, how hard is it, really, to not be explicit? Would you rather be tape-recorded in conversation ((or have text copied) with a provider asking for 'headache relief' or 'blow job'? Carry a bottle of aspirin in your car and say you were just referring to a neck massage?
A simple choice of words (or poor choice) could be the difference of thousands of dollars, terrible humiliation on TV news, and a lifetime red flag on a background check for ANYbody who wants to know about your skeletons because poor choice of words!
Using code doesn't protect you.Technically, you are right. Vague talk is not a protection by itself.
IF YOU WERE A COP, however, would you try to set up the easy shmuck who has no clue and gives it all away in the text correspondence, and likely an easy conviction, or go after someone who HAS a clue, DOESN'T make it perfectly easy and therefore might be smart enough to be a hassle?
I accept I might be wrong, but we need some opinions here from people with legal experience, or who has a friend / relative that can or has given some inside info on the process of target selection for stings.
I second this.
I mean, how hard is it, really, to not be explicit? Would you rather be tape-recorded in conversation ((or have text copied) with a provider asking for 'headache relief' or 'blow job'? Carry a bottle of aspirin in your car and say you were just referring to a neck massage?
A simple choice of words (or poor choice) could be the difference of thousands of dollars, terrible humiliation on TV news, and a lifetime red flag on a background check for ANYbody who wants to know about your skeletons because poor choice of words!Sadly not all BP girls are smart enough for the stripper reference and will say they don't strip, LOL.
Sadly not all BP girls are smart enough for the stripper reference and will say they don't strip, LOL.When in doubt, go with the "modeling" line.
MyDarkSide
02-12-18, 11:30
IF YOU WERE A COP, however, would you try to set up the easy shmuck who has no clue and gives it all away in the text correspondence, and likely an easy conviction, or go after someone who HAS a clue, DOESN'T make it perfectly easy and therefore might be smart enough to be a hassle?
If I were a cop I'd document the connection via BP, that the suspect showed up to shady hotel for headache relief with two condoms and $100 and book. Leave it to prosecutor to sort out. Name is in paper and you're out thousands to a lawyer to play with legal niceties. But you may be right and they just go for the low hanging fruit. I know there are guys on the board who have first hand experience but rare that they want to discuss. It would be interesting.
If I were a cop I'd document the connection via BP, that the suspect showed up to shady hotel for headache relief with two condoms and $100 and book. Leave it to prosecutor to sort out. Name is in paper and you're out thousands to a lawyer to play with legal niceties. But you may be right and they just go for the low hanging fruit. I know there are guys on the board who have first hand experience but rare that they want to discuss. It would be interesting.I have read several tips via this forum, that I thought would be beneficial.
* If you are going to a hotel, park in a parking lot on an adjacent property, not on the hotel property. This came from someone in Michigan, where if you are arrested for solicitation, your car is impounded until the case is closed.
* If you are meeting for a provider that is unknown, leave your cash, condoms, KY, etc in car until you have checked out both the room and are convinced that it isn't a sting.
My own experience, is that I only engage in casual chit chat until the girl is naked. It's not against the law to go to a hotel room to have sex. It's not against the law to pay a woman to strip for you. Put them together and that is where things get sticky.
I have read several tips via this forum, that I thought would be beneficial.
* If you are going to a hotel, park in a parking lot on an adjacent property, not on the hotel property. This came from someone in Michigan, where if you are arrested for solicitation, your car is impounded until the case is closed.
* If you are meeting for a provider that is unknown, leave your cash, condoms, KY, etc in car until you have checked out both the room and are convinced that it isn't a sting.
My own experience, is that I only engage in casual chit chat until the girl is naked. It's not against the law to go to a hotel room to have sex. It's not against the law to pay a woman to strip for you. Put them together and that is where things get sticky.This is good advice.
SexyBigMan
02-16-18, 00:35
https://www.news4jax.com/news/news4jax-crime-analyst-arrested-on-charge-of-soliciting-for-prostitution
https://www.news4jax.com/news/news4jax-crime-analyst-arrested-on-charge-of-soliciting-for-prostitutionhttps://www.news4jax.com/station/news4jax-welcomes-new-crime-and-safety-analyst
https://www.news4jax.com/community/gil-smith-now-a-proud-grandfather
Going to go ahead and say we should lay off going after adult men and women having consensual sex (in private location) just because the money can't be taxed.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/news4jax-crime-analyst-arrested-on-charge-of-soliciting-for-prostitutionI know this man personally. Like anyone else in this hobby, we take a chance every time we hunt. His career is finished for satisfying the most natural urge known to man. I sincerely hope he can keep the damage to his life to a minimum.
Ldw.
I know this man personally. Like anyone else in this hobby, we take a chance every time we hunt. His career is finished for satisfying the most natural urge known to man. I sincerely hope he can keep the damage to his life to a minimum.Doing an undercover (or under the covers) investigation obviously.
I know this man personally. Like anyone else in this hobby, we take a chance every time we hunt. His career is finished for satisfying the most natural urge known to man. I sincerely hope he can keep the damage to his life to a minimum.
Ldw.Crime analyst! Had the insight to all the SWan spots. I got busted years ago, lucky I was young and it didn't interrupt too much of my life. Sucks for him to get caught up in this shit. Life changer at this point. Man, when I got busted I had a female court appointed attorney. She said to me " look they have you on audio, it's the most ridiculous crime and the criminal charges aren't bad, it's the humility" she was right. I was out the next morning but my mother still asks if I remember in an awkward motherly way. I tell her yeah, what a phase LOL. I try my best to never ever let someone charm my guard down. Be safe.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/news4jax-crime-analyst-arrested-on-charge-of-soliciting-for-prostitutionLooks like his career got a fatal "blow".
Mal.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/news4jax-crime-analyst-arrested-on-charge-of-soliciting-for-prostitutionNot quite enough analysis?
I know this man personally. Like anyone else in this hobby, we take a chance every time we hunt. His career is finished for satisfying the most natural urge known to man. I sincerely hope he can keep the damage to his life to a minimum.
Ldw.Damn. He had such a cush job too. Makes you wonder why we risk so much for so little in return.
Looks like his career got a fatal "blow".
Mal.Since he got busted, I'm not sure he got that far.
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/20180216/tv-crime-analyst-and-retired-jacksonville-officer-charged-with-soliciting-prostitute
Although I get no pleasure in this, what an amateur move by him!
Ron In Fla
02-17-18, 14:01
https://www.news4jax.com/news/news4jax-crime-analyst-arrested-on-charge-of-soliciting-for-prostitutionI think Ken Jefferson set him up, trying to get old job back!
I know this man personally. Like anyone else in this hobby, we take a chance every time we hunt. His career is finished for satisfying the most natural urge known to man. I sincerely hope he can keep the damage to his life to a minimum.
Ldw.I am just wondering, as a retired police officer, I would think that he would be well versed in what not to say. Do you think that he simply let his guard down or could it be possible that someone is setting him up? If this guy could get busted, it could happen to any one of us.
I think Ken Jefferson set him up, trying to get old job back!I wouldn't want the job back, if I was Ken. He was better at seeming impartial about the pro-police at all cost telecast at Jacksonville's leading for profit first newscast. The formula for news profit is the constant boogy man story without much attempt at bettering the viewers. While showing little or no stories about the good in the same areas they state only extremely bad things about in their telecasted news for hours upon hours a day.
I am just wondering, as a retired police officer, I would think that he would be well versed in what not to say. Do you think that he simply let his guard down or could it be possible that someone is setting him up? If this guy could get busted, it could happen to any one of us.I heard from a source that it may have been a setup. This will be hard for him to prove. This came from someone who understands and has some limited access to the upper ranks in Jso. Not sure.
Jaunty Plow
02-22-18, 14:27
Is that a bargain?
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/photos/mugshots-four-women-arrested-for-prostitution-in-jacksonville/705137402
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/20180216/tv-crime-analyst-and-retired-jacksonville-officer-charged-with-soliciting-prostitute
Although I get no pleasure in this, what an amateur move by him!$20 for a sexual act. SMH.
Is that a bargain?
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/photos/mugshots-four-women-arrested-for-prostitution-in-jacksonville/705137402Guess the mosquitos got to those women first.
Member #6355
02-23-18, 07:53
Is that a bargain?
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/photos/mugshots-four-women-arrested-for-prostitution-in-jacksonville/705137402Number 4 should charge more for that often-sought-after toothless experience!
SeeMoBooty
02-23-18, 10:46
Guess the mosquitos got to those women first.Strawberry looking like crap.
WalnutDoor84
02-23-18, 14:50
Is always a great experience.
Number 4 should charge more for that often-sought-after toothless experience!
Azmodeus56
02-24-18, 10:10
With the exception of number three who is picking these women. Quasimodo?
Is that a bargain?
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/photos/mugshots-four-women-arrested-for-prostitution-in-jacksonville/705137402
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/20180216/tv-crime-analyst-and-retired-jacksonville-officer-charged-with-soliciting-prostitute
Although I get no pleasure in this, what an amateur move by him!Clearly he doesn't read the board. He should know he needs to be extra careful, we might end up in the news if we get caught in a sting, a public figure like him will always make headlines.
FearTheSpear
03-01-18, 23:54
With the exception of number three who is picking these women. Quasimodo?They ALL look HORRIBLE. INCLUDING number 3!!
Member #5769
03-05-18, 13:41
This forum got a mention in Folio Weekly. Yay.
http://folioweekly.com/stories/trafficking-in-hope,19315
This forum got a mention in Folio Weekly. Yay.
http://folioweekly.com/stories/trafficking-in-hope,19315Here's what gets me, they call every sex worker a victim of trafficking (Even strip clubs), yet police are arresting, charging and posting the "victim's" picture in the newspaper. Since when do you do that to people who are victims? Hate when people try to virtue signal and call prostitution and trafficking the same thing.
Basically anything that benefits men is bad (hence the reason why they said Strip club girls are victims too). If they cared so much, why do you NEVER see them demand sex workers not be arrested since they're all victims?
MyDarkSide
03-05-18, 17:40
This forum got a mention in Folio Weekly. Yay.
http://folioweekly.com/stories/trafficking-in-hope,19315"trafficking" is the new buzzword that these people throw out wrt every sex worker. I struggle to grasp is it real? I just don't see any of these girls being remotely trafficked other than by their own habits. None. Nada. At a stretch I wouldn't be shocked to hear some Asian mp was being forced due to some pressure back home but I'd still surprised to hear that. And a bit depressed.
Fishguy717
03-05-18, 22:31
This forum got a mention in Folio Weekly. Yay.
http://folioweekly.com/stories/trafficking-in-hope,19315Plus she was off just a bit on part of it, and I quote:
"SW. " (That's 'sex-worker' in scumbag-ese.).
"trafficking" is the new buzzword that these people throw out wrt every sex worker. I struggle to grasp is it real? I just don't see any of these girls being remotely trafficked other than by their own habits. None. Nada. At a stretch I wouldn't be shocked to hear some Asian mp was being forced due to some pressure back home but I'd still surprised to hear that. And a bit depressed.It's just a cash grab and political hot button since it's close to an election cycle. Everyone wants money to fight this or to use it as a political plank when running for office. Plus, it's cyclical. It will fade and come back every few years. It's hot now due to the pimps and opioids killing users. If that wasn't happening, you wouldn't be hearing about it. Stay safe!
This should set off alarm bells in both your big head and little head. And there is no cure but death.
HPV is causing an oral cancer epidemic in men by outwitting natural defenses.
Five years ago, when actor Michael Douglas candidly revealed that his throat cancer was linked to having oral sex, two things happened.
He made headlines that mortified his family. And he helped publicize the fact that a pervasive, sexually transmitted virus called HPV was unleashing an epidemic of oral cancer among men.
Link http://www.philly.com/philly/health/hpv-is-causing-an-oral-cancer-epidemic-in-men-by-outwitting-natural-defenses-20180309.html.
MissMurno69
03-10-18, 11:49
This should set off alarm bells in both your big head and little head. And there is no cure but death.
HPV is causing an oral cancer epidemic in men by outwitting natural defenses.
Five years ago, when actor Michael Douglas candidly revealed that his throat cancer was linked to having oral sex, two things happened.
He made headlines that mortified his family. And he helped publicize the fact that a pervasive, sexually transmitted virus called HPV was unleashing an epidemic of oral cancer among men.
Link http://www.philly.com/philly/health/hpv-is-causing-an-oral-cancer-epidemic-in-men-by-outwitting-natural-defenses-20180309.html.I was literally called every name in the book when I tried to warn guys in Knoxville Tennessee on this matter. Now that is brought back to everybody attention please go get tested and get the HPV shot. I received mines when I was 17 years old and haven't never had any problems with this thank god.
I was literally called every name in the book when I tried to warn guys in Knoxville Tennessee on this matter. Now that is brought back to everybody attention please go get tested and get the HPV shot. I received mines when I was 17 years old and haven't never had any problems with this thank god.Unfortunately the cut off age for men to get vaccinated is 26 years old. If you didn't get the shots as a young kid you can still get them if you are over 26 if you can find a doctor who is willing to administer the three shots. It will cost you between $175 and $300 for the full series of shots.
If your a man in your fifties or older, never been vaccinated and on the prowl you should not. Repeat. Not engage in oral sex with a person who has multiple sex partners unless you have a death wish or are completely nuts.
Thanks MissMurno69 for supporting this message. Your one of the smart ones.
Unfortunately the cut off age for men to get vaccinated is 26 years old. If you didn't get the shots as a young kid you can still get them if you are over 26 if you can find a doctor who is willing to administer the three shots. It will cost you between $175 and $300 for the full series of shots.
If your a man in your fifties or older, never been vaccinated and on the prowl you should not. Repeat. Not engage in oral sex with a person who has multiple sex partners unless you have a death wish or are completely nuts.
Thanks MissMurno69 for supporting this message. Your one of the smart ones.This forum is full of 50 plus year old men who love to DATY hookers. I don't understand wasting your session minutes on it. But so many mongers want it as a menu item.
MissMurno69
03-10-18, 21:59
Unfortunately the cut off age for men to get vaccinated is 26 years old. If you didn't get the shots as a young kid you can still get them if you are over 26 if you can find a doctor who is willing to administer the three shots. It will cost you between $175 and $300 for the full series of shots.
If your a man in your fifties or older, never been vaccinated and on the prowl you should not. Repeat. Not engage in oral sex with a person who has multiple sex partners unless you have a death wish or are completely nuts.
Thanks MissMurno69 for supporting this message. Your one of the smart ones.I have always been health conscious, and I care about other people health as well. I can't believe that they actually have a cut off age limit to get the shots. I feel like that's not very fair but I'm no doctor and I can just wish the best for the gentleman who hasn't been vaccinated. Please be safe why'all.
This should set off alarm bells in both your big head and little head. And there is no cure but death.
HPV is causing an oral cancer epidemic in men by outwitting natural defenses.
If your penis or tongue has been within about 3 feet of a vagina without a hazard suit in the last 3 decades. You've got HPV. Surprise!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news4jax.com/news/crime/jacksonville-man-sentenced-to-10-years-in-prison-for-drug-and-firearms-offenses
Can anyone guess which SWan / ex-BPer was a gf of this motherfucker? Lets just say she's no longer verticle. RIP. My favorite Cat helped put him away. She left JIA this mornin. She wanted a celebration fuck before she went back west.
Be Safe Babe😉 Be Seeing You!
-PB.
If your penis or tongue has been within about 3 feet of a vagina without a hazard suit in the last 3 decades. You've got HPV. Surprise!I've gambled hard and did that with a girl that became pretty popular on here. Waited 6 months and got the full test to make sure I was good. Never going down that road again. BBBJs on the other hand, maybe less risk there?
JZ.
Bobb Sledd
04-05-18, 14:45
This could get interesting:
https://www.infowars.com/report-sex-workers-to-expose-politicians-for-passing-anti-trafficking-bill/
MyDarkSide
04-05-18, 20:10
I've gambled hard and did that with a girl that became pretty popular on here. Waited 6 months and got the full test to make sure I was good. Never going down that road again. BBBJs on the other hand, maybe less risk there?
JZ.LOL realistically men can't be tested for hpv. Virtually anyone here will get it and fight it off with immune system.
Rustysh1990
04-05-18, 20:49
LOL realistically men can't be tested for hpv. Virtually anyone here will get it and fight it off with immune system.There are many easons not to eat these girls out. HPV should be low on your list:
40% of women have HPV:
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/hpv-rate-high-in-us
There are 13 k to 14 k new cases of throat cancer expected each year:
https://seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/laryn.html
There's a lot of pussy licking going on in this country, so you do the math on the odds. I'd be more concerned about the fact that they've probably seen 5 guys already that day, and maybe did BBFS, which in my experience most will agree to once you get to know them. Sloppy seconds is one thing, eating what another man just left behind is another. Not to mention the bacterial STDS that can live in the throat.
Like Darkside said the immune system often fights off hpv.
This forum is full of 50 plus year old men who love to DATY hookers. I don't understand wasting your session minutes on it. But so many mongers want it as a menu item.I never understand this. Like, why? Different strokes I guess.
Rick Dugan
04-06-18, 16:38
For those who have not yet heard, Backpage was seized today and the home of its founder was raided by the FBI.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/backpage-seized-fbi-article-1.3919071
We are scheduled to hear more at 6:00 pm this evening.
Whereas in most countries I've visited prostitution is legal and monitored we are going to try and enact another prohibition type event. Awesome.
Rustysh1990
04-06-18, 18:10
Whereas in most countries I've visited prostitution is legal and monitored we are going to try and enact another prohibition type event. Awesome.We can probably get in to TER using a vpn. That's what people in other countries run by dictators and communists like Iran and China do to access information that should be protected as free speech.
We can probably get in to TER using a vpn. That's what people in other countries run by dictators and communists like Iran and China do to access information that should be protected as free speech.There are a number of ways of skirting locale-based blocks. The bigger thing, though, is if they're refunding & terminating US based accounts / VIP accounts, it's not likely to be much use to anyone here, even with a VPN or other method, unless you've got a buddy who's someplace else who is willing to pay for the account.
Ron In Fla
04-06-18, 18:40
For those who have not yet heard, Backpage was seized today and the home of its founder was raided by the FBI.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/backpage-seized-fbi-article-1.3919071
We are scheduled to hear more at 6:00 pm this evening.Good. It's springtime. Bring out the streetwalkers.
Good. It's springtime. Bring out the streetwalkers.Next up, Feds raise gas prices to screw over SW.
JaxRedLight
04-08-18, 10:07
I never understand this. Like, why? Different strokes I guess.They probably just hate themselves.
Member #6355
04-08-18, 20:35
We can probably get in to TER using a vpn. That's what people in other countries run by dictators and communists like Iran and China do to access information that should be protected as free speech.Use Opera as your web browser. It has a built-in VPN. However, the VPN covers only activities within the browser, not in any other applications.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/22/husband-cheating-ashley-madison-says-member-signups-spiked-in-these-cities-last-year.html
DWaltonXXX
06-22-18, 11:57
Something like 95% of the accounts are shill accounts created by the company. The site is all marketing, almost no actual affairs. It has to have one of the lowest delivery-to-promise ratios of anything, ever.
No, not an unsatisfied customer, just somebody who reads news.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/22/husband-cheating-ashley-madison-says-member-signups-spiked-in-these-cities-last-year.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/22/husband-cheating-ashley-madison-says-member-signups-spiked-in-these-cities-last-year.htmlC'Mon. Guys! We can be number 1 !
http://wis.pr/ss/stories/faab4edb-ba4f-432f-8623-5e3196582714
http://wis.pr/ss/stories/faab4edb-ba4f-432f-8623-5e3196582714Hey Drew,
I often ask providers (and strippers) about their most "unique" encounter. They have all been very candid with me. I met a tall brunette escort named Gracie about 4 years ago. She said that one of her clients requested that she punch him in the balls as hard as she could until he passed out. I asked, "Did you do it?" and she replied, "Yes. " I was reminder of her and her encounter while flipping through the slides in your link.
Shaggy.
Rustysh1990
06-29-18, 16:46
I don't think I can post the link here due to the article showing the guy's name, but I just read a news story about a professor in Ohio who got caught up in a sting where the FBI used a fake USASG account to set up this creep who was trying to meet an underage girl.
Hey Drew,
I often ask providers (and strippers) about their most "unique" encounter. They have all been very candid with me. I met a tall brunette escort named Gracie about 4 years ago. She said that one of her clients requested that she punch him in the balls as hard as she could until he passed out. I asked, "Did you do it?" and she replied, "Yes. " I was reminder of her and her encounter while flipping through the slides in your link.
Shaggy.I had any inquiry to pull out one of my teeth with a pair of pliers and then smash it on the ground with a hammer. Ummm hell no! LOL.
I don't think I can post the link here due to the article showing the guy's name, but I just read a news story about a professor in Ohio who got caught up in a sting where the FBI used a fake USASG account to set up this creep who was trying to meet an underage girl.LEO is on here too. I've had members wanting to meet up with me just to shoot the shit; you know, have drinks and hang out. I've always declined because you never know who you're dealing with. Personally, I'm too discreet for that kind of business. At any rate, be suspect of just about anyone on here being LEO or working with them. No offense to anyone but my motto is, trust no one. I know there are some guys on here who do hang out but as a general rule, for me, no way. I saw the article. A university of Miami, Ohio professor. I'm sure life sucks for him! Oh the chances we take and willing to lose it all for a little bit of pleasure!
I had any inquiry to pull out one of my teeth with a pair of pliers and then smash it on the ground with a hammer. Ummm hell no! LOL.Don't you just hate stupid, amateur dentists?
Shaggy.
https://www.businessinsider.com/professional-sugar-babies-share-what-its-like-to-have-a-sugar-daddy-2018-7
https://www.businessinsider.com/professional-sugar-babies-share-what-its-like-to-have-a-sugar-daddy-2018-7We just had this discussion.
I personnally can't fathom the idea of gifting girls w / out copulation. I've heard from different providers of men paying their bills, buying them things, or simply forking over currency just so they can be in the company of the opposite sex. I have nothing against to these gentlemen who do. Just isn't my cup of tea.
I've heard stories such as:
"I couldn't pay rent so my SD took care of it".
"My SD gave me cash so I could go shopping".
"My SD bought me the latest iPhone".
"He's paying for me to go to school".
Blows my mind, because when I enquired about their Daddies wanting something in return I often get a "No" or "Not all the time". Now call me selfish but if I get the urge to want to fuck, I've got an expectations of having a more than willing partner-- or partners for those of you ballin.
Is it an emotional needs thing? Is it still a form of prostitution? Who calls the shots? I guess I can kinda see men, especially those that are aged & have the financial means, yearning to taking care of a young lady w / out the expectations.
Anyways, for those of you that are in these types of relationships- I tip my hat to ya.
-PB.
FloridaBiker
07-24-18, 14:28
We just had this discussion.
I personnally can't fathom the idea of gifting girls w / out copulation. I've heard from different providers of men paying their bills, buying them things, or simply forking over currency just so they can be in the company of the opposite sex. I have nothing against to these gentlemen who do. Just isn't my cup of tea.
I've heard stories such as:
"I couldn't pay rent so my SD took care of it".
"My SD gave me cash so I could go shopping".
"My SD bought me the latest iPhone".
"He's paying for me to go to school".
Blows my mind, because when I enquired about their Daddies wanting something in return I often get a "No" or "Not all the time". Now call me selfish but if I get the urge to want to fuck, I've got an expectations of having a more than willing partner-- or partners for those of you ballin.
Is it an emotional needs thing? Is it still a form of prostitution? Who calls the shots? I guess I can kinda see men, especially those that are aged & have the financial means, yearning to taking care of a young lady w / out the expectations.
Anyways, for those of you that are in these types of relationships- I tip my hat to ya.
-PB.I have been called a SD (mostly by my UTR and her family) but I don't fit the mold of paying something for nothing.
We settled the remuneration amount long ago, and money not discussed ever since. The $$ figure is at the high end of SWs. It's basically pay per event, with an adjustment for length of service, plus tip. She sticks it in her pocket and it is never questioned.
I have never paid any big bills or bought expensive stuff for her.
She treats me good, gives great GFE, and otherwise lives a normal (drug-free) life.
Courtesan is perhaps a more accurate word.
I believe the real SDs get the same services we do.
IMO the whole SD concept is just to fool SBs friends and family. Or, to lie to herself that she is not prostituting .
I only know one guy (SD) who pays them to just show up, be nude and friendly. No sex, but he is 83.
I have been called a SD (mostly by my UTR and her family) but I don't fit the mold of paying something for nothing.
We settled the remuneration amount long ago, and money not discussed ever since. The $$ figure is at the high end of SWs. It's basically pay per event, with an adjustment for length of service, plus tip. She sticks it in her pocket and it is never questioned.
I have never paid any big bills or bought expensive stuff for her.
She treats me good, gives great GFE, and otherwise lives a normal (drug-free) life.
Courtesan is perhaps a more accurate word.
I believe the real SDs get the same services we do.
IMO the whole SD concept is just to fool SBs friends and family. Or, to lie to herself that she is not prostituting .
I only know one guy (SD) who pays them to just show up, be nude and friendly. No sex, but he is 83.I don't really have a meaningful disagreement with any of the stuff that has been said earlier in this conversation, including A2's of repeated assertions on the subject. A prostitute by any other name. (paraphrased). But I will suggest that it's not in our interest to dismantle their perception that they are something else. The truth is, since SA came along, the pastures are greener than they have been in years. Decades even. At least here in Jacksonville. And if the impetus is that through this little trick of self-deception 1) these girls are available to us, and 2) they are mostly pimp and DB free, and 3) they manage to emerge with a little self-respect intact, it's all to the good. We should be encouraging it.
I don't really have a meaningful disagreement with any of the stuff that has been said earlier in this conversation, including A2's of repeated assertions on the subject. A prostitute by any other name. (paraphrased). But I will suggest that it's not in our interest to dismantle their perception that they are something else. The truth is, since SA came along, the pastures are greener than they have been in years. Decades even. At least here in Jacksonville. And if the impetus is that through this little trick of self-deception 1) these girls are available to us, and 2) they are mostly pimp and DB free, and 3) they manage to emerge with a little self-respect intact, it's all to the good. We should be encouraging it.Well said Sparjish! I agree on all points and feel similar. SA is probably also the safest place for girls to explore this profession, get their feet wet so to speak as opposed to escort ads or streetwalking.
Found this to be enlightening and hope you folks find it too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/50-year-old-ceo-former-sugar-daddy-experience-2018-7His comment of: "That should be the best part about a site like Seeking Arrangement is you shouldn't have to lie. " is a big part of his problem. One who believes that idea is most sorely going to be disappointed. The mixture of the internet, one's own greed and / or agenda, and a problematic past can most definitely hinder one's ability to tell the truth or the whole truth at least. I always thought of sites like SA & AM as being just a higher end CL & BP even w / words like "dating" sugar-coating its site. Different format but same concept (except those darn membership fees): Guys want to fuck. Girls want to get paid. Mens careless desires to want to procreate taken advantage of by women who sees dollar signs. Prostitution on dot com.
Dude be better off tryin to find a nice Amish woman.
PB.
His comment of: "That should be the best part about a site like Seeking Arrangement is you shouldn't have to lie. " is a big part of his problem. One who believes that idea is most sorely going to be disappointed. The mixture of the internet, one's own greed and / or agenda, and a problematic past can most definitely hinder one's ability to tell the truth or the whole truth at least. I always thought of sites like SA & AM as being just a higher end CL & BP even w / words like "dating" sugar-coating its site. Different format but same concept (except those darn membership fees): Guys want to fuck. Girls want to get paid. Mens careless desires to want to procreate taken advantage of by women who sees dollar signs. Prostitution on dot com.
Dude be better off tryin to find a nice Amish woman.
PB.Ok guys, this article is an advertisement for SA. Don't believe one word of it. This fellow is single and has a net worth of over 50 millon dollars.
And has to go to SA to get companionship and doesn't like what he finds. This is the image SA wants to show itself as. Your a young sugar baby, you can get with successful men worth over 50 millon who just are really only looking for dating and companionship and spend 200 k on jewelry for you. LOL.
Mufasa4931
07-31-18, 16:51
https://www.news4jax.com/news/florida/st-johns-county/deputies-4-bags-of-drugs-found-in-womans-body-cavity-at-jail
I figured its quite interesting what these chics can shove up their "backdoor" while simultaneously telling us they don't allow trips to greece, LOL.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/florida/st-johns-county/deputies-4-bags-of-drugs-found-in-womans-body-cavity-at-jail
I figured its quite interesting what these chics can shove up their "backdoor" while simultaneously telling us they don't allow trips to greece, LOL.Oh my Laws! BAHAHAHAHAHA.
Beachesnole02
08-20-18, 17:43
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/08/20/has-sex-trafficking-law-eliminated-percent-sex-trafficking-ads/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.28c0c4e292fa
The article mentions another offshore advertising site, switter.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/08/20/has-sex-trafficking-law-eliminated-percent-sex-trafficking-ads/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.28c0c4e292fa
The article mentions another offshore advertising site, switter.A congress person touting how great they are using misleading data, what a surprise! JD.
Vandelay Ent
08-26-18, 16:06
Perhaps NOW they will start going after violent crime at the landing and a few other places instead of victimless crime. Smh.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/mass-shooting-at-jacksonville-landing
Member #6355
08-26-18, 19:40
Perhaps NOW they will start going after violent crime at the landing and a few other places instead of victimless crime. Smh.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/mass-shooting-at-jacksonville-landingDon't bet on it. Ladies of the evening don't usually shoot back, so cops will always prefer to bust them rather than serious criminals.
LexiBear8879
10-03-18, 23:49
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ne-greg-alyn-carlson-wanted-fbi-20180927-story, AMP. Html.
If any of you have any information on this guy its really needed. Please make good choices out there everyone.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ne-greg-alyn-carlson-wanted-fbi-20180927-story, AMP. Html.
If any of you have any information on this guy its really needed. Please make good choices out there everyone.The link isn't working.
FloridaBiker
10-04-18, 14:14
I just checked the FBI 10 most wanted page, and non-appeared to be in Florida.
The link you gave doesn't work, so please get an update for us.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ne-greg-alyn-carlson-wanted-fbi-20180927-story, AMP. Html.
If any of you have any information on this guy its really needed. Please make good choices out there everyone.https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/greg-alyn-carlson
TroublePlay
10-08-18, 07:44
I am not certain this is the right forum.
Looking for a free or inexpensive VPN which will mask my browsing activities when I am on third party public wifis or secure work wifis.
I was on Opera until it disappeared.
Read good things about NordVPN.
Any others?
Cracked up when I saw this.
Which of you were recently in Queens and didn't get your L1 ? Haha.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sRKzR_1543774638
Cracked up when I saw this.
Which of you were recently in Queens and didn't get your L1 ? Haha.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sRKzR_1543774638He appears to be touched a little!
Luke Cage668
12-03-18, 12:45
Cracked up when I saw this.
Which of you were recently in Queens and didn't get your L1 ? Haha.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sRKzR_1543774638I always wondered why we don't have longer hours here, 24 hr spots would come in handy on those slow Swan nights.
Cracked up when I saw this.
Which of you were recently in Queens and didn't get your L1 ? Haha.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sRKzR_1543774638This really isn't fun! But lord knows I can't stop laughing!!
I always wondered why we don't have longer hours here, 24 hr spots would come in handy on those slow Swan nights.I totally agree. I lost track of the number of times that I have chosen to skip the AMPs for an evening with the expectation to meet up with an escort only to have that fall through with no backup option. The "Six Shops" in the St Petersburg / Pinellas County area are open 24 hours.
https://www.womanseekingmen.com/home.html
Stewie Griffin
12-03-18, 15:45
I am not certain this is the right forum.
Looking for a free or inexpensive VPN which will mask my browsing activities when I am on third party public wifis or secure work wifis.
I was on Opera until it disappeared.
Read good things about NordVPN.
Any others?Just make sure the vpn you use does not keep logs. But all you really have is their word for it really. A lot of people use Express vpn as well.
You can also use TOR browser.
Member #6355
12-03-18, 22:08
I am not certain this is the right forum.
Looking for a free or inexpensive VPN which will mask my browsing activities when I am on third party public wifis or secure work wifis.
I was on Opera until it disappeared.
Read good things about NordVPN.
Any others?The Opera browser is still around. I use it every day.
I am not certain this is the right forum.
Looking for a free or inexpensive VPN which will mask my browsing activities when I am on third party public wifis or secure work wifis.
I was on Opera until it disappeared.
Read good things about NordVPN.
Any others?I use and would recommend AirVPN there is even a node here in Jax on Water St and it's fast. Let's me bypass my employer's WiFi filters that block this site and others so I don't have to use my data. It isn't free but it's cheap, I pay 5 bucks a month buying 3 mos at a time for 15. You can also pay like a dollar for a day to try it.
Not My Job
12-06-18, 10:02
The Opera browser is still around. I use it every day.What Fred said re: Opera!
NMJ.
YDiner_Otown
12-06-18, 14:35
What Fred said re: Opera!
NMJ.Careful guys:
In April 2018, Opera shut down its mobile app. It still operates a web-browser mobile app for Android and iOS called Opera-mini. However, this mobile web-browser does not have a VPN. All the features that made the VPN a semi-viable option are no longer available, and you should really consider an alternative. Oct 24,2018.
Or not.
https://www.firstcoastnews.com/mobile/article/news/crime/florida-woman-shot-after-police-say-she-performed-sex-act-for-5-and-a-bag-of-potato-chips/77-fc07244b-5488-4ab0-aba3-cee457d9159f?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=5 c47229604 d301605405 db43&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook? Utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3 A+Trending+Content&utm_content=5 c47229604 d301605405 db43&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook.
Just posting this too be safe out there. Pain too deal with LEO but now have keep a look for the news being around. And looks like they know area's to look.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/investigations/parents-kids-concerned-about-prostitutes-in-neighborhoods?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=snd&utm_content=wjxt4
YDiner_Otown
01-31-19, 19:53
Just posting this too be safe out there. Pain too deal with LEO but now have keep a look for the news being around. And looks like they know area's to look.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/investigations/parents-kids-concerned-about-prostitutes-in-neighborhoods?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=snd&utm_content=wjxt4I don't know. I'm thinking the news guys read this board.
Like that last guy that use to be LEO and then became a news guy. And then got fired for trying to pick up a girl on PH.
But Town center?
I don't know. I'm thinking the news guys read this board.
Like that last guy that use to be LEO and then became a news guy. And then got fired for trying to pick up a girl on PH.
But Town center?Yup, that Extended Stay America over near Town Center is popular with providers. I've seen maybe 8 providers at that location through the years. I actually visited two different providers there about 2-3 years apart, but in the same room. Talk about Deja Vu all over again. Had some of my best times there and one of my absolute worst experiences too. That article was an interesting read. At first, I thought that the provider that they were speaking to was Katie the Russian. But the age is off. The former provider in the article states that she's 30-something, but according to my spreadsheet, Katie the Russian will turn 28 in a couple of months so it's not her in the video. The article was pretty complete where the local "hot" spots are located. They even got Hooterville identified correctly.
Shaggy.
I don't know. I'm thinking the news guys read this board.
Like that last guy that use to be LEO and then became a news guy. And then got fired for trying to pick up a girl on PH.
But Town center?They might. I would if I were them.
I've seen 4-5 girls near town center over the years, at different hotels, don't do SW.
They might. I would if I were them.
I've seen 4-5 girls near town center over the years, at different hotels, don't do SW.Where News4 Jax was talking about this site and its activities. The news person described quite a few details actually.
They might. I would if I were them.
I've seen 4-5 girls near town center over the years, at different hotels, don't do SW.I would be hesitant to pick up a SW at TC. I see so many people walking and jogging daily and that's just asking for trouble if I were to approach the wrong person that has a cell phone and social media account looking for a minute of social media fame.
JZ.
NeckAuthority
02-06-19, 19:29
Where News4 Jax was talking about this site and its activities. The news person described quite a few details actually.Not a ONe I went to each one close to getting dark and head into the other spots when it was dark. NOT A SOUL.
I would be hesitant to pick up a SW at TC. I see so many people walking and jogging daily and that's just asking for trouble if I were to approach the wrong person that has a cell phone and social media account looking for a minute of social media fame.
JZ.Hes talking about the tc hotels. Everybody already knows theres no SW in tc and not to try to look there as it is a high end area.
JaxRedLight
02-08-19, 21:15
Not going to say her real name but the body builder turned escort just got 40 years for violating her lifetime court mandated supervision for being a a weirdo sex pervert according to News 4 Jax recently.
For a Pimpette.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/crime/jso-female-pimp-offered-prostitute-crack-cocaine-place-to-live
Anybody know who this pimpette is or had any run-ins with her? Looks like she's tryin to cash in on the Pleasures Of The Flesh market.
HellaMad22
02-08-19, 21:53
For a Pimpette.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/crime/jso-female-pimp-offered-prostitute-crack-cocaine-place-to-live
Anybody know who this pimpette is or had any run-ins with her? Looks like she's tryin to cash in on the Pleasures Of The Flesh market.She probably wouldn't have said anything if Lee Lee would've invested more then $20 into that crack fun. LOL.
MyDarkSide
02-08-19, 23:28
Not going to say her real name but the body builder turned escort just got 40 years for violating her lifetime court mandated supervision for being a a weirdo sex pervert according to News 4 Jax recently.Poor kid. Came close to mtg her more than once.
Edit: after a brief search it appears she may have been grossly manipulated by a virtual pimp. Sad story but left with impression she was not the primary "pervert" in the debacle. Hope they get the guy
Poor kid. Came close to mtg her more than once.
Edit: after a brief search it appears she may have been grossly manipulated by a virtual pimp. Sad story but left with impression she was not the primary "pervert" in the debacle. Hope they get the guyLee Lee was always on FB live. You could see how downhill her looks have gone downhill over the past 4 years. I remember going to see what I thought was a newbie ad last year just to find out it was her. Kay was also in the room. I turned and left. She has put too much on SM of her lowlife ties for me to be anywhere near her.
MacDaddy3106
02-12-19, 19:54
Per News4Jax.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/politics/florida-legislature/paying-for-sex-in-florida-could-earn-mandatory-sentence
Per News4Jax.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/politics/florida-legislature/paying-for-sex-in-florida-could-earn-mandatory-sentenceFrightening news imo. For some of us, at least in my case, this is the only outlet to have any FS and us fucked up as it is, somewhat of relationship. Any lawyers around? Like how can we stop this or what's the likelyhood that its made law? WTF does this trafficing even mean? We and they are consenting adults. I'm discusted that this b is in my party.
MikeEbanks
02-13-19, 00:08
Per News4Jax.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/politics/florida-legislature/paying-for-sex-in-florida-could-earn-mandatory-sentenceNot to take blame from Dems but damn since Trump things gotten a bit harder in the biz. We have to rein those bibles.
Even the owner of the pats seems to like L1 - L3, 4 or 5 haha.
Guess we all have a little monger in us. Even if you have more money than God LOL.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/patriots-owner-bob-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution/ar-BBTX4ke?ocid=spartandhp
If you're not cheating, you're not trying.
Even the owner of the pats seems to like L1 - L3, 4 or 5 haha.
Guess we all have a little monger in us. Even if you have more money than God LOL.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/patriots-owner-bob-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution/ar-BBTX4ke?ocid=spartandhp
If you're not cheating, you're not trying."One of the most powerful man in football".
Robert Kraft will donate $100,000. 00 to the Boston Police Charity and *poof, charges gone. Nothing happened.
Patriots will still be Patriots and prostitutes will still be prostitues.
JaxStang13
02-22-19, 13:57
"One of the most powerful man in football".
Robert Kraft will donate $100,000. 00 to the Boston Police Charity and *poof, charges gone. Nothing happened.
Patriots will still be Patriots and prostitutes will still be prostitues.I usually visit the BO and GG parlors in Orlando and the place he was caught at isn't too far from there. Won't be going back for awhile now. For those of you that do travel to those two magical nympho labyrinths be extra cautious. I am sure those two places are on the radar by the way it is openly discussed on the Orlando board about the activities that take place. They had cameras inside of this place Kraft was caught and license plate readers outside. Damn! Be Safe!
Stang.
I usually visit the BO and GG parlors in Orlando and the place he was caught at isn't too far from there. Won't be going back for awhile now. For those of you that do travel to those two magical nympho labyrinths be extra cautious. I am sure those two places are on the radar by the way it is openly discussed on the Orlando board about the activities that take place. They had cameras inside of this place Kraft was caught and license plate readers outside. Damn! Be Stay!
Stang.As you can see, I didn't read the whole article. I thought he got busted in Boston. I didn't care to read the rest about some billionaire getting busted for a handjob then getting away with it. Why bother. LOL.
As you can see, I didn't read the whole article. I thought he got busted in Boston. I didn't care to read the rest about some billionaire getting busted for a handjob then getting away with it. Why bother. LOL.The news is saying "video evidence of him engaging in theses acts". How would that happen? The police put cameras in the place, how would that be possible?
I've never been to a place like this. Just wondering your thoughts?
Boring Name
02-22-19, 14:44
Robert Kraft will donate $100,000. 00 to the Boston Police Charity and *poof, charges gone. Nothing happened.Well it happened in Jupiter, Fl. But there are Pats fans everywhere so I'm sure Kraft will still be able to buy his way out of it.
If you're not cheating, you're not trying.LOL, I see what you did there. That is the Patriot way, of course. Spygate, Deflategate, and whatever else they didn't get caught cheating for.
JaxStang13
02-22-19, 15:24
The news is saying "video evidence of him engaging in theses acts". How would that happen? The police put cameras in the place, how would that be possible?
I've never been to a place like this. Just wondering your thoughts?One of the girls flipped on the owners. Police were made aware of a possible sex trafficking "victim" in this establishment and they got a judge to sign off on the surveillance based on a "sex traffic victim. " Is she a victim of sex trafficking? Maybe? Or did she cut a deal because she was in trouble already with the law? Don't know. As you can see, she brought in a pretty big fish. Good luck Kraft in getting out of this, especially if they have him on video.
Stang.
KramerCostanza
02-22-19, 18:54
One of the girls flipped on the owners. Police were made aware of a possible sex trafficking "victim" in this establishment and they got a judge to sign off on the surveillance based on a "sex traffic victim. " Is she a victim of sex trafficking? Maybe? Or did she cut a deal because she was in trouble already with the law? Don't know. As you can see, she brought in a pretty big fish. Good luck Kraft in getting out of this, especially if they have him on video.
Stang.Miles Jack wasn't down!
One of the girls flipped on the owners. Police were made aware of a possible sex trafficking "victim" in this establishment and they got a judge to sign off on the surveillance based on a "sex traffic victim. " Is she a victim of sex trafficking? Maybe? Or did she cut a deal because she was in trouble already with the law? Don't know. As you can see, she brought in a pretty big fish. Good luck Kraft in getting out of this, especially if they have him on video.
Stang.Adam Schefter from ESPN says there are bigger names on the list than Kraft in all this.
Should be good for some popcorn and see who else is involved.
Bobb Sledd
02-23-19, 08:48
Adam Schefter from ESPN says there are bigger names on the list than Kraft in all this.
Should be good for some popcorn and see who else is involved.My money is on Timmy.
SeeMoBooty
02-23-19, 10:28
My money is on Timmy.I think it's Bezos. Amazon main man.
Satisfaxxxion
02-23-19, 15:30
Even the owner of the pats seems to like L1 - L3, 4 or 5 haha.
Guess we all have a little monger in us. Even if you have more money than God LOL.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/patriots-owner-bob-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution/ar-BBTX4ke?ocid=spartandhp
If you're not cheating, you're not trying.Just another Patriot trying to get his balls deflated. Nothing new there.
Spice Shot
02-23-19, 16:02
One of the girls flipped on the owners. Police were made aware of a possible sex trafficking "victim" in this establishment and they got a judge to sign off on the surveillance based on a "sex traffic victim. " Is she a victim of sex trafficking? Maybe? Or did she cut a deal because she was in trouble already with the law? Don't know. As you can see, she brought in a pretty big fish. Good luck Kraft in getting out of this, especially if they have him on video. Stang.The girl knew saying its human trafficking, both the media and the police would reward her and forgive her for whatever she had done, unrelated. But police agenda was not about proving human trafficking, nope, just.
Gave them the ability to wipe their asses with the constitution, to get a judge to allow them to set up a camera. To enforce morality laws.
Its similar to Jussie Smollett scam, an entertainer trying to get free publicity feeding Team Socialism, feeding a juicy news story supporting their agenda and narrative that minorities / gays are victims of capitalist society.
Victimless crimes prosecuted are nothing more than the state enforcing morality. If Kraft had a GF, he has to worry she will sue and extort him, the man just wanted to bust a but in a safe, low risk environment.
Shame on the Po-Po and media.
So, here are some thoughts on the passing scene or more specifically, the recent AMP arrests in south-central Florida. First, how is the police surveillance of the AMPs in question not "video voyeurism"? I mean, if any of us went to one of those places and left a video recording device in the room and then left, recording sexual activity of individuals we don't know, would we or would we not be arrested for the VV charge? It is unfathomable to me that a judge signed off on that especially where explicit sexual activity is possibly being performed. Second, maybe this is a good thing. The guys that are involved have a lot of money. Let me repeat that "THEY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY!" Therefore, they can fight back against the government. This situation reminds me, somewhat, of the development and expansion of pornography. Fifty years ago, porn was mostly available at movie theaters. It could also be purchased, but it was very expensive. That all changed when the government dragged the actors, producer, and director of "Deep Throat" into court. From what I recall, they were initially found guilty but it was all thrown out on appeal. As a result, pornography went mainstream with very few restrictions which eased even more with the growth of the digital world. If my assessment or correlation / analogy is correct, and I believe that it is, then these guys could potentially end the constant police intrusion into the world of the AMP that we see so very often. Is it possible that the government has made a big mistake regarding AMPs, which has the possibility to backfire on them, resulting in legitimacy for our neighborhood AMP? Or is it possibly more like the situation surrounding the demise of Backpage? In that case, the government proved that BP knew about and promoted underage prostitution. However, in the end, alternatives have filled the void previously occupied by BP. Just a couple of thoughts.
Shaggy.
Just another Patriot trying to get his balls deflated. Nothing new there.Heard them say that this was a way for nfl commissioner Goddell to get back at the pats for always making him look bad. LOL look to suspend him.
So, here are some thoughts on the passing scene or more specifically, the recent AMP arrests in south-central Florida. First, how is the police surveillance of the AMPs in question not "video voyeurism"? I mean, if any of us went to one of those places and left a video recording device in the room and then left, recording sexual activity of individuals we don't know, would we or would we not be arrested for the VV charge? It is unfathomable to me that a judge signed off on that especially where explicit sexual activity is possibly being performed. Second, maybe this is a good thing. The guys that are involved have a lot of money. Let me repeat that "THEY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY!" Therefore, they can fight back against the government. This situation reminds me, somewhat, of the development and expansion of pornography. Fifty years ago, porn was mostly available at movie theaters. It could also be purchased, but it was very expensive. That all changed when the government dragged the actors, producer, and director of "Deep Throat" into court. From what I recall, they were initially found guilty but it was all thrown out on appeal. As a result, pornography went mainstream with very few restrictions which eased even more with the growth of the digital world. If my assessment or correlation / analogy is correct, and I believe that it is, then these guys could potentially end the constant police intrusion into the world of the AMP that we see so very often. Is it possible that the government has made a big mistake regarding AMPs, which has the possibility to backfire on them, resulting in legitimacy for our neighborhood AMP? Or is it possibly more like the situation surrounding the demise of Backpage? In that case, the government proved that BP knew about and promoted underage prostitution. However, in the end, alternatives have filled the void previously occupied by BP. Just a couple of thoughts.
Shaggy.Keeping commercial sex illegal is bad for society, this isn't my opinion, it's becoming fact.
Amnesty International: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/08/sex-workers-rights-are-human-rights/.
It cuts down on rape: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/07/17/when-rhode-island-accidentally-legalized-prostitution-rape-and-stis-decreased-sharply/?utm_term=.4b2071c9125e.
This is what the alliane of sex workers in Australia has to say to the charges leveled by various 4th wave groups that have "all sex work is trafficking" as their mantra http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/issues/swedish_model/10reasons_07/.
It's becoming so apparent that legal prostitution is a benefit to society that the 4th wave and religious right are funding fake studies to "document" the rise of trafficking in countries where commercial sex is legal https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/03/27/lies-damned-lies-and-sex-work-statistics/?utm_term=.3c7b40115543.
Will this finally, at long last be a catalyst that changes the perception of commercial sex in the USA.
Probably not, fucking Americans love their holier than thou attitudes.
A2.
Keeping commercial sex illegal is bad for society, this isn't my opinion, it's becoming fact.
Amnesty International: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/08/sex-workers-rights-are-human-rights/.
It cuts down on rape: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/07/17/when-rhode-island-accidentally-legalized-prostitution-rape-and-stis-decreased-sharply/?utm_term=.4b2071c9125e.
This is what the alliane of sex workers in Australia has to say to the charges leveled by various 4th wave groups that have "all sex work is trafficking" as their mantra http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/issues/swedish_model/10reasons_07/.
It's becoming so apparent that legal prostitution is a benefit to society that the 4th wave and religious right are funding fake studies to "document" the rise of trafficking in countries where commercial sex is legal https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/03/27/lies-damned-lies-and-sex-work-statistics/?utm_term=.3c7b40115543.
Will this finally, at long last be a catalyst that changes the perception of commercial sex in the USA.
Probably not, fucking Americans love their holier than thou attitudes.
A2.I think we have seen the industry really migrate towards more drugs and desperation over the last 20 years. Plus, you throw in human trafficking so it's twisting into more of an insidious thing. Violence towards women in the business also seems to be increasing.
Years ago, women did their thing and cops left them and the Johns alone. But, now you throw harder drugs, violence and murder into the mix and it's going to really get more scrutiny. DB's are "keeping" women hostage which isn’t much different from pimps of the past but they seem to be much more violent.
Just my 2 cents.
Keeping commercial sex illegal is bad for society, this isn't my opinion, it's becoming fact.
Amnesty International: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/08/sex-workers-rights-are-human-rights/.
It cuts down on rape: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/07/17/when-rhode-island-accidentally-legalized-prostitution-rape-and-stis-decreased-sharply/?utm_term=.4b2071c9125e.
This is what the alliane of sex workers in Australia has to say to the charges leveled by various 4th wave groups that have "all sex work is trafficking" as their mantra http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/issues/swedish_model/10reasons_07/.
It's becoming so apparent that legal prostitution is a benefit to society that the 4th wave and religious right are funding fake studies to "document" the rise of trafficking in countries where commercial sex is legal https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/03/27/lies-damned-lies-and-sex-work-statistics/?utm_term=.3c7b40115543.
Will this finally, at long last be a catalyst that changes the perception of commercial sex in the USA.
Probably not, fucking Americans love their holier than thou attitudes.
A2.I guess that I see these recent events in south-central Florida as government overreach. I mean, from what I have read, a worker on the inside may have alerted the police that something illegal may be happening. But surreptitiously filming people having sex, without their consent, is just, in itself, an horrible act. What if, for example, a junior high student were to alert the police that students were selling drugs in the gym locker room. Is there any parent that would say that it would be acceptable for the police to place a hidden camera in the junior high gym locker room to film the goings on? I would be outraged at that and, I believe, rightfully so. Just another thought on the subject.
Shaggy.
JustACbtGuy
02-25-19, 07:40
I'm wondering: When will Jacksonville go "Me Too!" and raid our local AMPs? You know they are thinking about it so that they can get their fair share of publicity.
Especially considering the institution that covers so much of downtown real estate that doesn't pay any property taxes.
Member #5941
02-25-19, 08:04
I'm wondering: When will Jacksonville go "Me Too!" and raid our local AMPs? You know they are thinking about it so that they can get their fair share of publicity.
Especially considering the institution that covers so much of downtown real estate that doesn't pay any property taxes.Just a thought on #me too, I'm thinking that these providers will wise up and use this as a way to extort guys out of lots of money. Heck a monger jizzed in her mouth or on her body. So that could be used as evidence for a rape or something (pulling the victim card) . Perhaps holding a guys cum hostage for cash or even threatening to out you. We all know that she will be believed by the gynocentric court system. However, if she were caught for making it up. Nothing much would happen because she could pull the victim card out again and say "my pimp cheedoh trafficked me and forced me to do this". We all know women almost never get into trouble for making false statements on a police report because vagina.
FloridaBiker
02-25-19, 08:18
The raids were part of a statewide operation from our state law enforcement (FDLE).
It is safe to assume that local parlors are a target.
I'm wondering: When will Jacksonville go "Me Too!" and raid our local AMPs? You know they are thinking about it so that they can get their fair share of publicity.
Especially considering the institution that covers so much of downtown real estate that doesn't pay any property taxes.The city council will demand something be done but the chief will counter with the standard "I don't have enough cops on the streets and need more funds". We have an election for the mayor coming up too so that will play into it. It will twist into a political hot potato.
So, here are some thoughts on the passing scene or more specifically, the recent AMP arrests in south-central Florida. First, how is the police surveillance of the AMPs in question not "video voyeurism"? I mean, if any of us went to one of those places and left a video recording device in the room and then left, recording sexual activity of individuals we don't know, would we or would we not be arrested for the VV charge? It is unfathomable to me that a judge signed off on that especially where explicit sexual activity is possibly being performed. Second, maybe this is a good thing. The guys that are involved have a lot of money. Let me repeat that "THEY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY!" Therefore, they can fight back against the government. This situation reminds me, somewhat, of the development and expansion of pornography. Fifty years ago, porn was mostly available at movie theaters. It could also be purchased, but it was very expensive. That all changed when the government dragged the actors, producer, and director of "Deep Throat" into court. From what I recall, they were initially found guilty but it was all thrown out on appeal. As a result, pornography went mainstream with very few restrictions which eased even more with the growth of the digital world. If my assessment or correlation / analogy is correct, and I believe that it is, then these guys could potentially end the constant police intrusion into the world of the AMP that we see so very often. Is it possible that the government has made a big mistake regarding AMPs, which has the possibility to backfire on them, resulting in legitimacy for our neighborhood AMP? Or is it possibly more like the situation surrounding the demise of Backpage? In that case, the government proved that BP knew about and promoted underage prostitution. However, in the end, alternatives have filled the void previously occupied by BP. Just a couple of thoughts.
Shaggy.US is 38 in freedom, it's OK to invade and kill hundreds of thousands of people, but sex is a crime.
Big just the same.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/former-pro-golfer-arrested-in-prostitution-sting
His hot little gf must not be putting out.
Why Bob Kraft has to go out for his personal pleasure.
So, here are some thoughts on the passing scene or more specifically, the recent AMP arrests in south-central Florida. First, how is the police surveillance of the AMPs in question not "video voyeurism"? I mean, if any of us went to one of those places and left a video recording device in the room and then left, recording sexual activity of individuals we don't know, would we or would we not be arrested for the VV charge? It is unfathomable to me that a judge signed off on that especially where explicit sexual activity is possibly being performed. Second, maybe this is a good thing. The guys that are involved have a lot of money. Let me repeat that "THEY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY!" Therefore, they can fight back against the government. This situation reminds me, somewhat, of the development and expansion of pornography. Fifty years ago, porn was mostly available at movie theaters. It could also be purchased, but it was very expensive. That all changed when the government dragged the actors, producer, and director of "Deep Throat" into court. From what I recall, they were initially found guilty but it was all thrown out on appeal. As a result, pornography went mainstream with very few restrictions which eased even more with the growth of the digital world. If my assessment or correlation / analogy is correct, and I believe that it is, then these guys could potentially end the constant police intrusion into the world of the AMP that we see so very often. Is it possible that the government has made a big mistake regarding AMPs, which has the possibility to backfire on them, resulting in legitimacy for our neighborhood AMP? Or is it possibly more like the situation surrounding the demise of Backpage? In that case, the government proved that BP knew about and promoted underage prostitution. However, in the end, alternatives have filled the void previously occupied by BP. Just a couple of thoughts.
Shaggy.I would HOPE a police force in any city would IMMEDIATELY shut a place down if trafficking was suspected. NOT get a warrant to have cameras installed to catch them in the act.
That just reeks of political nonsense. And makes them JUST AS GUILTY if not MORE SO to those involved IF they are in fact trafficking girls.
If it looks like a fish and smells like a fish. Well. You know, as Paul Harvey (RIP) would have said 'the rest of the story'.
I'm wondering: When will Jacksonville go "Me Too!" and raid our local AMPs? You know they are thinking about it so that they can get their fair share of publicity.
Especially considering the institution that covers so much of downtown real estate that doesn't pay any property taxes.Typical old duval lib thought process / argument. Do you have any proof that any lack of downtown development / progress is being stopped or has been stopped just because there is a church there?
Just a thought on #me too, I'm thinking that these providers will wise up and use this as a way to extort guys out of lots of money. Heck a monger jizzed in her mouth or on her body. So that could be used as evidence for a rape or something (pulling the victim card) . Perhaps holding a guys cum hostage for cash or even threatening to out you. We all know that she will be believed by the gynocentric court system. However, if she were caught for making it up. Nothing much would happen because she could pull the victim card out again and say "my pimp cheedoh trafficked me and forced me to do this". We all know women almost never get into trouble for making false statements on a police report because vagina.Agreed, which is why it blows my mind, and frustrates me when I see mongers post congradulations and cheer on some of these recent so called "former" providers. All theyve done is find another means. You can't trust women as it is, but ones in the hobby, gimmie a break. The hobby is risky enough but I don't get why yall, try to get some relief where chances are better that theres a camera somewhere in the building (AMPs or clubs) or easy for le to set one up than the other choices. In krafts case, he probably just got sloppy because hes used to getting whatever he wants, but the average joe?
If anyone is interested, channel 4 (news4jax.com) is doing another special on 02/26/2019.
Ldw.
JustACbtGuy
02-26-19, 17:30
Typical old duval lib thought process / argument. Do you have any proof that any lack of downtown development / progress is being stopped or has been stopped just because there is a church there?/ Off topic.
What matters is that they don't pay property tax yet benefit from police, fire, etc. , services, unlike every other business downtown.
And there is no way to know what businesses would "develop" there if that property wasn't "tax free".
And let's not forget. The Landing is effectively being dumped because there isn't a demand for it as a retail space.
But hey, whatever. I'm not here to talk politics, but about finding women.
The fact that the church, oh, "significantly influences", our politics is relevant to this thread.
Though yeah. Perhaps it is a woodshed discussion.
So don't be calling me a Lib. Them's fighting words Libertarian, old school. But Liberal, as in today's ideology? No way.
I just think all churches should be subject to taxation for their properties. The exemption is no longer relevant in many ways.
Member #5941
02-26-19, 19:35
Agreed, which is why it blows my mind, and frustrates me when I see mongers post congradulations and cheer on some of these recent so called "former" providers. All theyve done is find another means. You can't trust women as it is, but ones in the hobby, gimmie a break. The hobby is risky enough but I don't get why yall, try to get some relief where chances are better that theres a camera somewhere in the building (AMPs or clubs) or easy for le to set one up than the other choices. In krafts case, he probably just got sloppy because hes used to getting whatever he wants, but the average joe?Yes, I couldn't have said it myself. These providers are very privileged in that they can ride the cock carousel and get money at the same time. Men don't have the option of being paid for their sexuality and women won't even think of paying a man for companionship. So, they cheer on a chick that got paid to get laid all day, get high and not work or contribute to society. If she gets tired of it or wants to retire. Well two good options are find a rich beta male captain save a ho then divorce him and leave with all his money or they go into the victimhood industry. Cashing in on their story. Yes, the average guy has to play 4 D chess with the hobby just to get some action and that gets exhausting.
MikeEbanks
02-26-19, 19:56
/ Off topic.
What matters is that they don't pay property tax yet benefit from police, fire, etc. , services, unlike every other business downtown.
And there is no way to know what businesses would "develop" there if that property wasn't "tax free".
And let's not forget. The Landing is effectively being dumped because there isn't a demand for it as a retail space.
But hey, whatever. I'm not here to talk politics, but about finding women.
The fact that the church, oh, "significantly influences", our politics is relevant to this thread.
Though yeah. Perhaps it is a woodshed discussion.
So don't be calling me a Lib. Them's fighting words Libertarian, old school. But Liberal, as in today's ideology? No way.
I just think all churches should be subject to taxation for their properties. The exemption is no longer relevant in many ways.I think so too. I rather have them focus on raising enough money to stay open than spoiling everybody else's fun.
Handicapper
02-26-19, 20:02
Typical old duval lib thought process / argument. Do you have any proof that any lack of downtown development / progress is being stopped or has been stopped just because there is a church there?Dude, wake up! You don't see any strip clubs downtown because of the proximity to the churches and the vast majority of right-wingers running the city.
MikeEbanks
02-26-19, 20:04
Why Bob Kraft has to go out for his personal pleasure.He is well known and rich the risk is higher than average. I think his approach was ingenious just unlucky.
Dude, wake up! You don't see any strip clubs downtown because of the proximity to the churches and the vast majority of right-wingers running the city.No city puts strip clubs downtown (except maybe san francisco or vegas) and never heard of anybody wanting them there. Alvin brown didn't put them in when he had his chance. People who go to church have sex too and f up just as much as you lefties the only difference is that they want to change. The church has no say so or some kind of magical power over the government no matter how much you want them to. Theres construction going on downtown right now and the shipyards are starting next year, the landing etc. The city council is full of northside libs. Taxes usually have been going towards illegal immigrant programs or towards shelters for dboys until recently.
If anyone is interested, channel 4 (news4jax.com) is doing another special on 02/26/2019.
Ldw.Is this it?
https://www.news4jax.com/news/investigations/city-cites-residents-for-building-6-foot-fence-to-keep-prostitutes-out
Has a nice info graphic with a response from JSO vice saying they are actively working these complaints. They mention people throwing condoms on their lawns and driveways LOL. And they interviewed a 10 yr old who complained that she has to walk down the same sidewalk as these "women acting erractiley" and that kids her age shouldn't see that. Wow.
Think of the children! And the trafficed women! / S.
They even mention it's a supply and demand crime. Wonder how JSO plans to lower demand for sex. Hmm.
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