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Yikes, check out this one.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/beautiful-blondie-true-gfe-ter-reviewed-100-law-affiliated-22/9736509
Be careful out there.
Papa Rotzi
04-04-10, 18:06
Yikes, check out this one.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/beautiful-blondie-true-gfe-ter-reviewed-100-law-affiliated-22/9736509
Be careful out there.
I saw her in January -- she was true GFE. It was a good time, but she was a clockwatcher. I know 2 other buddies that have also seen her, so this post puzzles me a little bit (and if it's true… well, that's scary too)
Chica Chaser
04-05-10, 07:16
I saw her in January -- she was true GFE. It was a good time, but she was a clockwatcher. I know 2 other buddies that have also seen her, so this post puzzles me a little bit (and if it's true… well, that's scary too)
I'm guessing here, but that the post is possibly a retaliatory move by her management/agency (or ex-management) as she changes her business plan. The same type situation is underway in Tucson right now as well.
I'm guessing here, but that the post is possibly a retaliatory move by her management/agency (or ex-management) as she changes her business plan. The same type situation is underway in Tucson right now as well.Actually, it says she was detained a few weeks ago, I'm guessing she was legit up until that point. Plus she has always claimed to be independent so I'm not so sure she had any management/agency.
Regardless, I think I will avoid.
Tooncinator
06-28-10, 13:07
Kim, June, Kayla, she uses all these names shes a tweeker, stinky ass hoe. She always puts on her adds she will do anything to satisfy her customers but she doesn't and she rips you off too, she needs to go to jail.
I saw her back in Feb '09 when she was working out of her house. Not a hag, but her pictures were much better than the real-life version. She was also, I'd say, "misleading" about her services. Easiest just to quote my earlier review (#1190 in CL forum)
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It's not just you. I had an experience that's made me more careful about negotiating. The provider lists 3 services like:
Body rub .8
Yummy special $.2
V.I.P. special $.5
I figured that meant hj, bj, fs. Nope. It's hj, cbj, nude cbj. I was admiring the goods and anticipating bending her over the massage table when she decided the cbj was taking too long. Peeled the cover off and administered a turbo-speed hj before I could say "hey! wtf!". My "un-rushed hour of relaxation" was over in about 25 minutes.
Caveat emptor, y'all.
Tooncinator
Tooncinator
08-23-10, 18:51
I got an email yesterday from user "Jacqueline11" that reads:
Hey sexy!
I was first thinking you were yet another spam profile. I am in fact writing this with my completely new droid at my near friends apartment because my ridiculous internet is out these days. Therefore, I'm sorry just in case I wont respond to questions instantly, but I'm still getting used to making use of this thing. I am excited for a couple days off from work. I am a fit Italian girl who enjoys sex.I have a excellent phone sex voice, hehe.
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<br>I live all alone near to city. What I am seeking is a person to have a few cold drinks with and then ideally that will lead into a lot more sexual stuff. I'm in to handcuffs, getting spanked plus I enjoy seeing dirty videos. I am away from work just for three more days therefore I'm seeking hook up quickly. Mabey we could meet at my home for a few drinks someday this week?
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<br>I approach dating exactly like I approach sex, risk-free. Better to always be protected cause you never know whats out there. Therefore heres your own invite
http://ac.to/brf
<br>You've probably previously seen this website, i set up a personal profile on the website with my personal photos and also phone info. You are not required to have a credit card or all sorts of things like that approach me hehe. Lets get some thing going, its been quite some time to me.
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<br>Looking forward to listening to your voice.
.
Not exactly a "ripoff", but I couldn't find a more appropriate place to report this since "report this post" isn't an option in mail.
Chica Chaser
08-23-10, 20:37
Toon...report the PM to Jackson, she needs to go. We sure don't need that kind of crap from a "member" here.
MyDixieWrecked
08-24-10, 02:01
I got the exact same thing.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/100specials-x-x-x-rated-blonde-available-now-come-play-22/12233591
Watch out for this one guys! Phone number tagged same girl in the OC there w / backpage ad.
All reviews were ripoff. Wanted to alert be-4 you get taken!
Dal
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/100specials-x-x-x-rated-blonde-available-now-come-play-22/12233591
Watch out for this one guys! Phone number tagged same girl in the OC there w / backpage ad.
All reviews were ripoff. Wanted to alert be-4 you get taken!
DalGoogle the phone number and the first result is from that other review site of which there are 3 reviews all clearly state " not the girl in the pic" and "total rip off." As if the pictures didn't scream "rip-off" themselves.
Happy mongering!
Flyby Nightowl
12-29-10, 16:54
Saw this ad on RB so sent an email just for the hell of it. Just another scam to have you join a website to be "verified", then does a cam show first before will agree to meet. Another TGTBT.
http://classifieds.myredbook.com/classified.php?adid=217479
Straight up robbed me. I've been in touch with another guy she did it to and this was months ago. She's still at it so I say we make a concerted effort to bring her ads down.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/come-check-out-my-oooh-face-ask-about-my-sleep-over-28/14006304
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/all-nughty-all-night-specials-28/14185244
http://phoenix.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/late-nite-playtime-28/14207111
6o2-423-0375 is her number. Hoping by posting it here it will be indexed by the search engines and people will find it.
No tineye needed here. The name of the pop starlet Nicci_Juice was part of the photo. When she first posted.
Nice to see she'w putting a little more effort into her subsequent posts. But a ripped pic is a rip off.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exclusive-upscale-hot-36/14249318
Here's another one!
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/beautiful-fun-outgoing-sexy-sweet-and-available-now-23/13350720
Are you a hard working professional, with limited time or overstressed? Do you need a companion or friend to share SPECIAL MOMENTS with? Maybe you have relocated, are retired, need to relax and enjoy or just plain lonely. We all have needs that can't be denied. 480-XXX-588 Danielle
Just a quick follow up to my previous post.
Same chick different handle:
Are you a hard working professional, with limited time or overstressed? Do you need a companion or friend to share SPECIAL MOMENTS with? Maybe you have relocated, are retired, need to relax and enjoy or just plain lonely. We all have needs that can't be denied. 602-XXX-8838 Denise<-
Poster's age: 23.
• Location: Upscale Uotcall. Hotel & resort friendl
PolygamyMonger
09-10-11, 01:19
Got to love PHX.
The games are still here, a little wiser,
But one can never be too careful when the little head is doing the thinking.
The other nite, came across a pregnant ho. 35, black, named Tiffany.
She was on Glendale and the Interstate.
Big tatas on this one, as well as a big ass.
At first she said she needed a jump for her car. Bullshit.
Cruised over to a gas station at Bethany Home and the Interstate-
Surprise, surprise no car!
She kept asking for money. Said I had none.
SHe jumped out of my ride and she had no bottom on.
Right there I wanted to tap that and perhaps have a gulp of milk.
So I summoned her back in. We directed me to some apartments
At Camelback and 39th Ave.
In a dark spot, we got out and she proceeded to ask for the money.
I told her the member needed to get hard and I needed some milk.
She starting whacking the fellow and I told her to suck him.
She still asked for the money and started sucking him.
When he was hard enough, I reached under her shirt and sucked on her tata for milk.
Yum! She still bugged me for the money. I said, no, turned her around and bent her over.
Behind a fence. I grabbed the hell out of those massive E's and pounded that pussy hard.
At this time, Tiffany grabbed the money from my hand and then immediately said she had enough.
And started walking away, yelling help. I quickly left.
Had Tiffany been patient, she would have received the rest of the money, not just the couple of washingtons I had in my hand.
During the day, I stopped off at the Rio Saldo Park area on 7th Ave and came across a thin black girl. 50, named Sheree.
Struck up a conversation, which led to some beer being pulled out.
She said she was Detroit, homeless, bi-polar, on PHX for a couple of years.
After a couple beers, I had Sheree flap out those droopy tits and, as well as sticking a finger up her coochie as she stroked me to hardness.
Slapped a jimmy on and had her sit on me. Before the games concluded, the city park people showed up and spooked both of us.
Sheree asked if she could give her a ride to get some spice at a store. I agreed. She then asked me for some money and I gave her a five.
She asked if I had a bank card and knew she was scamming. She went in and came back out immediately asking for more money.
Told her I had no more and she went in and I left.
Although, I got some play, these women were gamers. Have on you just what you want to play with and all will be good.
WhiteSun777
05-14-12, 12:19
Watch out for this one.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new_lets-meet_-new_lets-meet_-21/17370667
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new_wana-meet_-lookin-4-you_-trying-to-establish-my-name-21/17598878
Ad:
Hi I am Chasity. I am 21 years old. The ad title says it all. All true and I am looking for you! 5"2" 105 lbs all in the back. I am cute petite and so so much fun. I love meeting new people and looking for a selected few!
(480) 779-0581.Decided to try outcall with her since she's new, big mistake on my part.
She was nice, friendly, session was actually quite good.
If it wasn't for the missing personal items I would probably repeat.
Now I know why she was carrying a large purse.
Evolution2003
05-20-12, 00:05
I have posted on this provider before but as she has struck again I will re-post. She advertises on either body rub or escort section at $100 for an hour body rub. She doesn't advertise with her phone number but does with her email. I made sure that she confirmed this, the price and the duration thru email when I contacted her, she did. She was staying in an apartment in the metro center area and is generally an attractive brunette white woman and true to her pictures. Once I arrived to her apartment she immediately began to upsale oral and other extras. I told her that I just wanted the rub like we had emailed about, she began and then said she couldn't rub for an hour and it would be more like 15 minutes max. I asked for my money back and she only gave me half. Lesson learned I guess. I have been to other body rub providers and they have massaged for the time they said.
Hummer Bird
05-20-12, 04:29
I have posted on this provider before but as she has struck again I will re-post. She advertises on either body rub or escort section at $100 for an hour body rub. She doesn't advertise with her phone number but does with her email. I made sure that she confirmed this, the price and the duration thru email when I contacted her, she did. She was staying in an apartment in the metro center area and is generally an attractive brunette white woman and true to her pictures. Once I arrived to her apartment she immediately began to upsale oral and other extras. I told her that I just wanted the rub like we had emailed about, she began and then said she couldn't rub for an hour and it would be more like 15 minutes max. I asked for my money back and she only gave me half. Lesson learned I guess. I have been to other body rub providers and they have massaged for the time they said.Sorry this happened to you, please ad a link and some pics of the gal.
I am curious why the majority of mongers never create a serious stink about the girl keeping the donation when they renig on their agreement. I would be very surprised if the girl really wants the money enough to create a shituation. Look, put up or shut the fuck up with your promises, and if your going to try to screw people, then be prepared for consequences.
Cheers.
HB
Evolution2003
05-24-12, 18:05
Here is the link and pics from my previous ripoff report on Jessica and her body rub. She usually takes the link down quickly though, so I don't know if it will still be.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/erotic-complete-body-rub-25/16310216
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Hummer Bird
05-27-12, 17:42
Beware this ho' is back in action and a totally waste of all your energies, and especially your monies. Pics are fake, and she is horrible to look at and fuck.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/anyone-morning-specials-19/17212845
404-637-3808
HornyHawaiian
06-02-12, 01:39
So found a pretty hsw big boobs went to her house took donation and out back door then her mexican bf cameout. I seen her before was cool. Great BBBJ but fucked up now beware hot hispanic dark curly hair I block south of northern nice dcups bad seen can't believe she robbed me
Member #4354
06-02-12, 07:13
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/call-now_-_late-night-specails_-_call-now-20/16537294
Found one review on this girl and thought it was worth a try. Not sure if girl in pic. Girl in pic looks much better. Lack luster performance. Wants you to do all the work. Was there for 15 minutes, paid $.6 for 30. Asked for oral, she says for $ more. Decided to call it quits and asked for half money back. She said no. Argue a bit and decided to take a lost on this one. When I arrived at the motel I noticed a security guard patrolling place. He was sitting on steps by her room when I left. Seem kind of fishy to me he was there. Maybe he was her pimp? Careful with this one.
Not only does she use different fake pics in all her ads, but she stole the text of the chick who's ad is right before her, including using the girls name in the ad, who is a verified provider
Dipshit.
http://classifieds.myredbook.com/classified.php?adid=372913
Girls ad she is copying which is posted before hers.
http://classifieds.myredbook.com/classified.php?adid=372700
NoNameDefense7
07-29-12, 14:26
Advertises in Health and Beauty section of BackPage. She is in South Scottsdale and advertises as the Artist of Touch. She claims to do tantra sessions.
She does nothing. For 1. 5, your don't even get a good massage. Was tantra the part where she waved the cloves of garlic over the top of me, because if it wasn't I missed it.
I should have known when I started on my back that this was a rip off. If you start on your back, you end on your stomach. At that point, she slips out of the room and you are left to wonder if that is it. It was.
It's too bad she advertises where she does, or you could flag her posting. Perhaps, the Better Business Bureau would hear my case.
Stay far away, very far away.
Advertises in Health and Beauty section of BackPage. She is in South Scottsdale and advertises as the Artist of Touch. She claims to do tantra sessions.
She does nothing. For 1. 5, your don't even get a good massage. Was tantra the part where she waved the cloves of garlic over the top of me, because if it wasn't I missed it.
I should have known when I started on my back that this was a rip off. If you start on your back, you end on your stomach. At that point, she slips out of the room and you are left to wonder if that is it. It was.
It's too bad she advertises where she does, or you could flag her posting. Perhaps, the Better Business Bureau would hear my case.
Stay far away, very far away.Same thing happened to me about a year ago. Massage started out with me on my back and I knew right then that things would not end "happy" and of course I was right.
Advertises in Health and Beauty section of BackPage. She is in South Scottsdale and advertises as the Artist of Touch. She claims to do tantra sessions.
It's too bad she advertises where she does, or you could flag her posting. Perhaps, the Better Business Bureau would hear my case.
Stay far away, very far away.It appears my search-fu has left me. Can you provide some additional info for the search? Phone number, link to ad, etc?
Nevin
NoNameDefense7
07-31-12, 20:23
It appears my search-fu has left me. Can you provide some additional info for the search? Phone number, link to ad, etc?
NevinShe was a regular poster on backpage, health and beauty.
It appears those ads have been deleted.
Here's what must be an over decade old photo and an ad to go with.
http://arizona.redlightworld.com/profile.php?action=listingview&listingID=4156
Some of Frank and Jesse James' crimes were lesser.
lookinginco4
09-17-12, 00:00
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/pretty-blonde-playmate-100-inde-new-pix-26/19333262
I posted a report in the Backpage Review section as well. In short, fake pics, way older than advertised, shows up and then tries to upsell. When I said I did not have any more she bolts for the door before I could even think about it. And despite coming in alone, I notice when she opens the door that there is some big black dude waiting outside of my room and they split together (almost running). She is a total ripoff: Apryl, area code 408.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/pretty-blonde-playmate-100-inde-new-pix-26/19333262
I posted a report in the Backpage Review section as well. In short, fake pics, way older than advertised, shows up and then tries to upsell. When I said I did not have any more she bolts for the door before I could even think about it. And despite coming in alone, I notice when she opens the door that there is some big black dude waiting outside of my room and they split together (almost running). She is a total ripoff: Apryl, area code 408.Funny, her ad says no African American men.
Chica Chaser
09-20-12, 00:11
Funny, her ad says no African American men.The pimped ones ads usually do.
Hobbymaster
09-20-12, 14:04
The pimped ones ads usually do.They realize if they could get the hoe to join them with there money manager rap.
They know any Homie the Clown can just take them away. Some they try to keep them away from the other potential pimps.
Great info from below thanks for posting and keep everyone aware.
Takes A Looks
12-16-12, 08:44
Avoid this Massage Parlor called Club Lace in Phoenix on W. Weldon St, close to 79th ave. It is a total rip-off. The performers will hand signal and promise shows, then will not follow through. You will end up paying about $$$ for nothing except a sorry latex glove HJ, and some pussy fingering that's it, a total rip-off!
Avoid this Massage Parlor called Club Lace in Phoenix on W. Weldon St, close to 79th ave. It is a total rip-off. The performers will hand signal and promise shows, then will not follow through. You will end up paying about $$$ for nothing except a sorry latex glove HJ, and some pussy fingering that's it, a total rip-off!A little search of the forums would've saved you this disappointment along with numerous other places like this. I specifically rated Club Lace based on a friend that worked there for quite some time. This forum is helpful is you use it properly, the search option is your friend.
A little search of the forums would've saved you this disappointment along with numerous other places like this. I specifically rated Club Lace based on a friend that worked there for quite some time. This forum is helpful is you use it properly, the search option is your friend.I'm sorry, and I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but to me the search here is awful and never works for me. I just did a test. On the thread I was in, I searched for something I knew should be there since I just wrote about her the other day. I searched for fenix. Nothing. I tried advanced search, search at the top, nothing brought me to the report I wrote, or the guy that posted all those pictures of her the other week.
Dirty Old Guy
12-17-12, 16:12
TAL,
I just looked and found a website for your Club Lace "Massage Parlor": http://clublacephoenix.com/CLUB%20LACE. HTM.
They advertise as a Gentlemen's Club. I don't go to gentlemen's clubs, but this is the 1st time that I've heard of a gent's club also being a massage parlor. Is this normal? Is that what you were looking for there?
You reported this on the Massage Parlor board and said that you,"went by this Club". If you were looking for a massage, it might have been a better choice to go to someplace that said,"Massage" rather than,"Club". If you were going to a "gentlemen's club" specifically, then your post on the Massage Parlor board might have been better placed on the,"Strip Club" board.
Guys are interested in certain things. Some like some things, some like others. Putting your post on a board that other guys are extra interested in, and always read will get your post more mileage.
Welcome to the boards,
Dirty.
Avoid this Massage Parlor called Club Lace in Phoenix on W. Weldon St, close to 79th ave. It is a total rip-off. The performers will hand signal and promise shows, then will not follow through. You will end up paying about $$$ for nothing except a sorry latex glove HJ, and some pussy fingering that's it, a total rip-off!
Avoid this Massage Parlor called Club Lace in Phoenix on W. Weldon St, close to 79th ave. It is a total rip-off. The performers will hand signal and promise shows, then will not follow through. You will end up paying about $$$ for nothing except a sorry latex glove HJ, and some pussy fingering that's it, a total rip-off!In the Phoenix metro area, only go to gentlemen's clubs that have a full bar. The ONLY nude club worth visiting is Blue Moon. No exceptions. The places on off streets that say they are clubs, one on one modeling, etc. Like Juicy Lucy's, Daisy's the place on Ironwood and 20th Ave, the places on E. University are JACK SHACKS. You get yourself off. Never go to them.
Massage places say MASSAGE on the building, and generally are in strip centers on major streets. Preferably go to places reviewed on here first until you get some exposure.
I Wouldn't Treat A Dog the way Kena treated me. Saw their ad on backpage where of course woman doesn't look nearly as good as picture. Ad said nothing about cash only so I looked stupid a few minutes fumbling for extra cash. Kena acted like she wasn't aware of $10 discount for mentioning ad. I had to show it to her. She was also asking for a tip before I could even pay for the hour.
Kena looked "ok", but gave no impression she was willing and able to give service. I found out she was not. After she threw me for a loop about the cash only and I looked stupid for a few minutes, she offered less time for less money. I insisted that I had it, which I did. I eventually went outside to get cash together. I should have left there. My dumb ass went back in and gave $50. After some delay I went into room to undress. When I got ready to take off my briefs, Kena stopped me. Another bad sign. I would descibe the service this way. I didn't get to touch or see anything. Kena had no massage skills. She blew her nose and coughed (hacked) a few times, without saying excuse me or sorry. At one point, Kena threw a dirty tissue on the floor right in my plain view. Kena handled my arms like a piece of steak trying to "reposition" me. She didn't use oil until I asked her to. And when she wiped the oil off, Kena used a cold towel, yes, a cold towel. Kena made me feel unwelcome during the whole time, and I couldn't wait until it was over. They advertised a free table shower, but it was not even offered. When Kena said I was finished, I quickly dressed and went to the toilet, where I figured I'd offer a $5 tip. I left more tense than when I came in. She had the nerve to expect a tip. When I expressed my dissatisfaction with her service, Kena shoved me out the door.
ShawnGreen
04-03-13, 11:46
I'm going to post this in both the review and rip off section. So if you see it twice it was on purpose.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/im-here-and-pretty-check-me-out-no-rush-all-fun-come-c-21/22009732
So I openly admit I spend alot of time on here lurking and asking for advice and such. This week though I had the chance to have a week without the wife and I have made it my mission to take as many for the team as I can. Scrolled through the pages and saw nothing on this one so I TOFTT. Well I'm 0/1 to start. Drove out to a nice resort area in Scottsdale and agreed to the $$.2 for my dream. FS, GFE DATY BBJCIM was all on the table from everything we discussed. She is definately the girl in the pictures. A little awkward but I just took it for her being new to the scene and just having nerves. After about 3 minutes at the most with the budget gone things turned bad. Stalling and a quick reach for the phone to "make sure it was off" let me know I was in for a ride. Shortly after the text came the knock at the door. I just smiled and got up and told her I knew what was about to happen. She went to the door and in came the "management". Didn't put up a fight and just told him no problem I will leave. Left with nothing but a hole in my pocket. Plan on going back though when I'm in a better position to deal with surprises. I'm sick of hearing about dudes getting ripped off.
Erica Linds
04-04-13, 00:01
I'm going to post this in both the review and rip off section. So if you see it twice it was on purpose.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/im-here-and-pretty-check-me-out-no-rush-all-fun-come-c-21/22009732
So I openly admit I spend alot of time on here lurking and asking for advice and such. This week though I had the chance to have a week without the wife and I have made it my mission to take as many for the team as I can. Scrolled through the pages and saw nothing on this one so I TOFTT. Well I'm 0/1 to start. Drove out to a nice resort area in Scottsdale and agreed to the $$.2 for my dream. FS, GFE DATY BBJCIM was all on the table from everything we discussed. She is definately the girl in the pictures. A little awkward but I just took it for her being new to the scene and just having nerves. After about 3 minutes at the most with the budget gone things turned bad. Stalling and a quick reach for the phone to "make sure it was off" let me know I was in for a ride. Shortly after the text came the knock at the door. I just smiled and got up and told her I knew what was about to happen. She went to the door and in came the "management". Didn't put up a fight and just told him no problem I will leave. Left with nothing but a hole in my pocket. Plan on going back though when I'm in a better position to deal with surprises. I'm sick of hearing about dudes getting ripped off.Just FYI. She use to post under the name Kelsie with a XXX-1696 phone number. She had ok reviews on the other sites under that number. I can give you more details of where she use to live and other contact info, but don't want to break the rules here.
BonAppetit
04-04-13, 00:48
Has anyone ever tried asking the girl to turn her phone off before giving her the money? Seems like 99% of the scams I read about involve her making contact after the money changes hands.
Just FYI. She use to post under the name Kelsie with a XXX-1696 phone number. She had ok reviews on the other sites under that number. I can give you more details of where she use to live and other contact info, but don't want to break the rules here.I think there should be an addendum to the rules, if one of these working girls rips us off or puts your safety in jeopardy then F*ck them! Why protect these slags?
Post up there info; all of it, make their lives more of a hell than it already is.
I don't tolerate thieves at all, and much to the dismay of some of these working girls I always show up with my piece in tow. If they don't like it, then I leave with out ever paying but, I make it WELL KNOWN that I am armed and if they are going to try to get one over on me, shit will go down badly for all parties involved.
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LOCATION: Phoenix, Super 8 near I-17 and Bell.
DATE: 2013-09-24.
NAME: Amy.
INCALL / OUTCALL: Incall.
INCALL CLEANLINESS:
AGENCY OR INDY:
ACCURATE PICTURE:
AGE: 40+
PERSONALITY: Thief.
RACE: White.
BODY TYPE: Petite
HEIGHT: 5'08 to 5'10"
PHONE: 5038018751.
RATES:
RECOMMEND: No.
REPEAT: (do you intend to see provider again?) No.
COMMENTS:
I walked in and set down the donation. She then took it and started going for the door. When I asked her to give it back before she left she started screaming for help. She opened the door, walked outside, and screamed at the top of her lungs. A black man with a bag of ice in his hands heard her scream and asked what was going on. She denied being a provider and said I forced my way into her place.
I figured something was wrong when the first thing out of her mouth was "give me the money" but I was there to tofft. She had on a long white dress that went to her knees and did not wear glasses. The pics are not her, she is much older, probably 40+ but skinny.
Member #5432
09-26-13, 09:48
LOCATION: Phoenix, Super 8 near I-17 and Bell.
DATE: 2013-09-24.
NAME: Amy.
INCALL / OUTCALL: Incall.
INCALL CLEANLINESS:
AGENCY OR INDY:
ACCURATE PICTURE:
AGE: 40+
PERSONALITY: Thief.
RACE: White.
BODY TYPE: Petite
HEIGHT: 5'08 to 5'10"
PHONE: 5038018751.
RATES:
RECOMMEND: No.
REPEAT: (do you intend to see provider again?) No.
COMMENTS:
I walked in and set down the donation. She then took it and started going for the door. When I asked her to give it back before she left she started screaming for help. She opened the door, walked outside, and screamed at the top of her lungs. A black man with a bag of ice in his hands heard her scream and asked what was going on. She denied being a provider and said I forced my way into her place.
I figured something was wrong when the first thing out of her mouth was "give me the money" but I was there to tofft. She had on a long white dress that went to her knees and did not wear glasses. The pics are not her, she is much older, probably 40+ but skinny.That's messed up! Sorry to hear about the bad encounter and glad you made it out to report on.
Do you have a link to her post / ad? Or can you share her pics so we know what to avoid. She can easily change name and locale so others might be easily duped into that bs.
Better luck next time.
AmanteDeLatina
10-26-13, 00:36
She was wearing a red outfit. The ROB took my money and bolted into her place after she told me to wait for her to come back. Beware of this ROB. I have the story in the streetwalker reports.
I was in Phoenix last week for business and this one got away with $.5. Frankly, rookie mistake on my part but I wanted to give you guys the heads up. I scheduled an outcall massage. She arrived on time. I gave her the full donation and started to get comfortable. She began the upsell almost immeditely. I responded with a "we'll see." As soon as I was face down and nude she said that without additional tips she would not be able to stay. Before I could even get up she was bolting for the door. Obviously, I couldn't chase her down the hall. I should have not given her the full amount up front but I did, and now you know how it ended. For what it is worth, she is the girl in the bottom picture.
Better luck for you guys and better luck for me next time I am in town. Other than this chick. Great city!
http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/available-now-resorts-hotels-private-residence-28/24881920
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-n-town-classy-and-sassy-100-real-simply-stunning-tolleson-new-22/25327861
Location: Victor Inn, Room 227,83rd Ave and McDowell.
Phone: 310-279-9691.
Fake photos, rushed, upsell. She collected 120 for half an hour and only gave me 2 minutes of CBJ and did not even take off clothes. Then she say 60 more for FS. During the CBJ her phone was ringing, she pick up the phone and told them she'll call back. I told her my half an hour only elapsed few minutes. She saw I am not paying her more and then walk to door asked me to leave.
Watch out guys!!
Here's her photos286783286784286785.
I knew better, and let myself get burned anyway. She has pulled the BP post, but it was under the heading "All American Girl", name of "Annie", phone 917-246-9296. Stay away!
It was a special occasion for me and I wanted to treat myself. My regular was unavailable, and my second call to a well reviewed girl I had been wanting to see was not answered, so I decided to take a chance on a new girl. I called her up and seh answered right away, and seemed pleasant enough on the phone. I had searched the internet for reviews and also checked her pics, with no results, so I thought maybe she was just new to the world and decided to TOFTT. Got to her place and she kept me waiting about 15 minutes. When she finally opened the door it was apparent she wasn't the girl in the pics. The pics were of a knockout, the girl who answered the door was much less attractive and 25 pounds heavier than the pics. Since I had already driven 45 minutes to see her and I was really in the mood, I foolishly decided to stay. I gave her the agreed upon amount, and she went into the bathroom and told me to get undressed. I layed on the sofabed she had folded out (not the real bed in the room) an dshe came out still clothed. At this point I knew I had probably made a mistake and was not hard. She came over to the sofabed, Sat. Down and started to watch TV while attempting to put a cover on me, even though I wasn't ready. I asked her to get undressed and she responded she would when I was ready. She spent the next five minutes watching TV and yanking on it like she was trying to start a lawnmower. Needless to say I didn't respond. I asked her again to get undressed and she got up, said she had already been trying for longer than she normally would and told me to leave. I asked for money back and she refused, then pretended to call the front desk for security. I told her she was making a mistake and she next pretended to call 911. I got dressed and left, no sign of a pimp or anyone from the hotel. It was my fault for not following my instincts, so don't make the mistakes I did. Stay away!
She just reposted her ad:
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/all-american-playmate-with-a-wild-side-visiting-1-night-only-21/25929763
And here's a pic:
YoniLicker
12-09-13, 22:24
http://www.byroncrawford.com/2013/07/rackradar-brie-swennes.html
She just reposted her ad:
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/all-american-playmate-with-a-wild-side-visiting-1-night-only-21/25929763
And here's a pic:
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/something-new-and-excitng-with-amazing-body-ready-to-play-21/26440933
Has pimp in side room. No FS and not the girl in the pics.
Matrix Neo
09-09-14, 02:20
A friend tipped me off of a "tease", a hispanic chick who's in her late 30's but looks younger. Chubby with a lot of tattoos. Stays in the area of Main St and Horne. Maybe walking near that area once in awhile, takes your cash and doesn't deliver anything except a waste of time.
Some gals just tip toward the bad and its a shame - 'Candy the Best' is now purposely ripping off clients off of back page and will go as far as extortion if she and her babydaddy pimp think they can hook a sucker.
She has put on some weight lately but still has the same long blonde hair with dark undertones.
She has gradually become more and more scandalous as time goes on.
She used to be one of my fav's. But now all I can say is stay away. FAR AWAY.
For more info: night.train.tna@gmail.com (I do not recommend that site).
Night Train was here.
Desert Rat
10-07-14, 00:59
Don't you have a ton of pictures of this girls from every angle? How about post a picture or two to show the folks who you are talking about.
She says her name is Laura. She lives in the west mesa trailer park. After a few minutes her "brother" will come in and ask you to leave. She will deny everything. Another women is also there. Avoid her.
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WorkForFood
01-18-15, 23:26
Ashley Jane Tate. Psycho - nuts. Stay away. Contacts you if you post on CL. Located in the Gilbert and Mesa area.
NorthScotts2
01-19-15, 10:26
I was contacted by a girl who sent a picture about meeting up for 60. Do you have a pic of this girl? She didn't give her name.
Ashley Jane Tate. Psycho - nuts. Stay away. Contacts you if you post on CL. Located in the Gilbert and Mesa area.
Member #4210
03-06-15, 17:04
She offered a to good to be true special outcall of 90 for 90 minutes, but she has to be picked up. Once in the car she said she never takes off her sleeved sweater. It was kind of modified and she looked good but she said she does that because she did a lot of damage to her arms. Imagine that. (scratches head) Her top was a black sweater with long sleeves and exposed midrift, and she looked great in gray yoga pants. Very petite.
Cash 'and Dash and man can she run!
I'll be damned if I risk chasing her down streets I don't know, but it was good for a laugh. . . On me.
Live and learn.
She goes my different names and called me back on other phone numbers. Later, a guy called me wanting to know what he should not know!
Advertises in a TGTBT fashion. My bad for not having known better.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/im-the-very-sexxy-one-named-laady/32068445
Member #4210
03-07-15, 01:30
She also goes by Cherish and her pimp called her Missy or Misty.
Takes A Looks
07-02-15, 02:15
I went to go see this girl, I have attached the link below. But she is just a liar. On phone and in post she claimed to be Hispanic and when I showed up to hotel she was obviously AA. My friend had the same thing happen to him with a different girl. I even asked if she was 100 percent Latina and she said yes. So when she opened the door I simply left as she was not Latina. So just beware there are several Phony Latina posts that are really AA providers. The one I attached below, she also had a pimp hanging out a few doors down and another AA girl that I think was with her that was just getting out of vehicle in parkin lot. She wasn't really that bad looking but I'm just sick and tired or liars and fakes. The link is below here. http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/early-bird-specials-start-ur-morning-right/33483905.
Tried to TOFTT. They are either cops or trying to rob people. I called and was given directions to a street and told to park. Chloe then wanted to know what car I was driving and what I looked like. Then she asked me to go to the store. This is what I've seen cops do when they are in the process of busting someone and need time to clear out. She also wanted one of the girls to come out and get the money, but she wouldn't come out herself. She wouldn't give out the address so I'm sure the girl would have just grabbed it and never came back. She only does incalls so that, combined with all this is a red flag. After I called her out on these things she stopped all communication. I would stay far away from these two if I were you.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-pick/34521564
Seville Man
09-21-15, 11:48
She posted on Craigslist by saying she is lonely and needs to get out of the house and I responded and ask for her pic and she looked hot. As I was approaching her apartment off.
Of country club and Broadway in Mesa, she asked if I stop off and get her $30.00 to give to her baby sitter. Kayla said she would be down to get the money when I arrive. Red flag.
In my mind. Cash and dash. This has happen to me before. When I mentioned she give me her wallet with etc. Somehow it was it stolen, then I ask she come with her friend.
To the car and when she gets in I will give the money to her friend, her reply was she didn't want her to know that she was going out on date. Then she offer we go to a room and.
Her friend for a extra $10.00 will come over and get the money. Right and open myself up to be robbed or another cash and dash opportunity. I finally had enough and left and went.
Home. The number she uses 48 X-XXX-9348, STAY AWAY IS MY SUGGESTION.
Do NOT see this 22 yr old ebony female, unless you want to be stolen from. Money given upfront as requested and services not provided, repeated text unanswered to return the money, her number in the back page post is 602 638-8924, and has also recently been reaching out to people with a 310 area code, but has not used that in a post, YET, which was replyed back once by someone saying it was her sister and she was going thru a rough patch, and was not a ripoff. Daily attempts over a month and no contact from Fancy Camille to mask it right. I'd not consider trade at this point, nor have such a character in my residence again. Attempts to have my money returned using both number unfruitful. Prefer to continue to let the community here and several other sites become aware that its best to not invite a thief to play with, and if one does to not be surprised if they steal. She's mentioned in the past that she has some boys she can sent to back her up, so also be prepared on that front. Last page post Sept. 21, age 22. Recently had an acquaintance have a weapon gone missing, same day he'd invited this female to entertain in his household. Be safe gents, but also be prepared. And that's all I got to say about that.
RealllyBored
10-03-15, 20:18
She posted on Craigslist by saying she is lonely and needs to get out of the house and I responded and ask for her pic and she looked hot. As I was approaching her apartment off.
Of country club and Broadway in Mesa, she asked if I stop off and get her $30.00 to give to her baby sitter. Kayla said she would be down to get the money when I arrive. Red flag.
In my mind. Cash and dash. This has happen to me before. When I mentioned she give me her wallet with etc. Somehow it was it stolen, then I ask she come with her friend.
To the car and when she gets in I will give the money to her friend, her reply was she didn't want her to know that she was going out on date. Then she offer we go to a room and.
Her friend for a extra $10.00 will come over and get the money. Right and open myself up to be robbed or another cash and dash opportunity. I finally had enough and left and went.
Home. The number she uses 48 X-XXX-9348, STAY AWAY IS MY SUGGESTION.That little **** has been pulling scams like that for years. She's kinda cute till you see her rotten teeth.
Do NOT see this 22 yr old ebony female, unless you want to be stolen from. Money given upfront as requested and services not provided, repeated text unanswered to return the money, her number in the back page post is 602 638-8924, and has also recently been reaching out to people with a 310 area code, but has not used that in a post, YET, which was replyed back once by someone saying it was her sister and she was going thru a rough patch, and was not a ripoff. Daily attempts over a month and no contact from Fancy Camille to mask it right. I'd not consider trade at this point, nor have such a character in my residence again. Attempts to have my money returned using both number unfruitful. Prefer to continue to let the community here and several other sites become aware that its best to not invite a thief to play with, and if one does to not be surprised if they steal. She's mentioned in the past that she has some boys she can sent to back her up, so also be prepared on that front. Last page post Sept. 21, age 22. Recently had an acquaintance have a weapon gone missing, same day he'd invited this female to entertain in his household. Be safe gents, but also be prepared. And that's all I got to say about that.Noticed new numbers on this cash and dash, want to be provider posted today Oct. 4 2015 under the names camille and lyric 602 XXX-7567, and 602 XXX-9771, its the savvy gents here that may well avoid the rip off, so sorry about the others who will be that don't do their research. Any other suggestions on how to get a provider like this out of town are appreciated.
ChrisButts
10-05-15, 16:06
Do NOT see this 22 yr old ebony female, unless you want to be stolen from. Money given upfront as requested and services not provided, repeated text unanswered to return the money, her number in the back page post is 602 638-8924, and has also recently been reaching out to people with a 310 area code, but has not used that in a post, YET, which was replyed back once by someone saying it was her sister and she was going thru a rough patch, and was not a ripoff. Daily attempts over a month and no contact from Fancy Camille to mask it right. I'd not consider trade at this point, nor have such a character in my residence again. Attempts to have my money returned using both number unfruitful. Prefer to continue to let the community here and several other sites become aware that its best to not invite a thief to play with, and if one does to not be surprised if they steal. She's mentioned in the past that she has some boys she can sent to back her up, so also be prepared on that front. Last page post Sept. 21, age 22. Recently had an acquaintance have a weapon gone missing, same day he'd invited this female to entertain in his household. Be safe gents, but also be prepared. And that's all I got to say about that.I saw this one up at the Fry's on 19th ave & Union Hills about a year ago.
It was during the Thanksgiving / Christmas holidays last year. She was with some guy (who I would guess was a client--just had "the look" LOL) buying groceries.
I think she may have traded in some trim for some trimmings.
The black yoga pants, massive cameltoe sorta kinda had me enticed. Glad I never pulled the trigger on this one.
AzPussyLicker
10-10-15, 20:28
This girl is an under the radar provider. I think I saw the same photos in ads sometime ago. Now she doesn't post ads anymore. A provider I saw tried to pass me off to her. I never got her phone number nor did I see her. Well one day I got a warning from that provider to stay away. Desire was having her boyfriend rob her clients.
I saw this one up at the Fry's on 19th ave & Union Hills about a year ago.
It was during the Thanksgiving / Christmas holidays last year. She was with some guy (who I would guess was a client--just had "the look" LOL) buying groceries.
I think she may have traded in some trim for some trimmings.
The black yoga pants, massive cameltoe sorta kinda had me enticed. Glad I never pulled the trigger on this one.Hiya gents as of Oct. 8th post looks like another new number to avoid for this cash and dasher 480 XXX-7829, cheers.
Hiya gents as of Oct. 8th post looks like another new number to avoid for this cash and dasher 480 XXX-7829, cheers.As of Oct. 11th same number but a new alias of Dolly. Still daily attempts to try and resole the cash and dash using her posted number without a reply. Karma is a bXXXh. Avoid at all cost gents. Cheers.
TheFingmanDude
01-11-16, 10:49
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/truly-amazing/33797631
Visiting from out of town. Got the old cash and dash from this one. Stay away!
The old bait and switch. Don't go there. Does not like her job either.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/petite-bombshell-1-top-choice-new-in-town/37845547
As of Oct. 11th same number but a new alias of Dolly. Still daily attempts to try and resole the cash and dash using her posted number without a reply. Karma is a bXXXh. Avoid at all cost gents. Cheers.Wow, crazy, I don't check here much or post much as I don't partake in dreams often but was surprised by seeing her as a rip off. I saw her like 2 or 3 years ago and thoroughly enjoyed my time and her. Guess she changed! Good to know as I was thinking of seeing someone and she came to mind. Thanks for the heads up!
As of Oct. 11th same number but a new alias of Dolly. Still daily attempts to try and resole the cash and dash using her posted number without a reply. Karma is a bXXXh. Avoid at all cost gents. Cheers.And still out there with a new #:
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exotic-cand-t-call-me-now-stunningandtight-killer-d-full-treat/31457197
623-xxx-8326.
A report of a scam on another site. Also I contacted her before she had breast implants and I could tell over the phone she was up to no good:
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/5-star-experience/38028599
Also she was using a 424 on the other report in which she allegedly took $250 for a mere appearance fee.
But she's beautiful, verified on EROS, her ad says all the right things, "Sweet Seductive & Intelligent. % iNdEPENdENt. Always discreet & No drama. Passionate & sensual, my goal is to keep you relaxed & coming back for more. Soft skin, beautiful lips & a perfect figure. $250 Donation. NO Negotiation on the rate" *It appears that she's taken out the $250 Donation as of 3/8/16*.
So I decided to TOFTT. I contacted Ashley. I asked if the donation was all inclusive no upsell. She said, "That is the donation. " Vague, but maybe she's being safe. My Spidey sense should be crazy now.
She got to my room the $$$ was for her show up and time only, and significant $$ upsell for more.
Bait and Switch and Exorbitant Upsell. Total scam. Beware.
http://liveescortreviews.com/search?search=4242097976&city=phoenix
CockMeat55
03-28-16, 03:18
They realize if they could get the hoe to join them with there money manager rap.
They know any Homie the Clown can just take them away. Some they try to keep them away from the other potential pimps.
Great info from below thanks for posting and keep everyone aware.It's because most not all black men come with some type of drama to rob or rape most pimps don't care what color they are seeing they ask that they screen I've met a few and they let me try all the new ones they get.
What a ripoff. Came inside and was asked If its my first time there and said yes. She lead me to the room and said 140 for everything making a gesture with her hands from top to bottom. Fast forward the massage is horrible and on the flip side she up sells me with like 120 for a HJ. I said you said ealier 140 for everything, then she changed her story with like, no that wast just for massage and extra are like 120 more. So I said no and got up. Paid 140 for less than 30 min massage. So guys beware! Definitely not going back!
FYI She's changed her number to 520-XXX-1073.
But she's beautiful, verified on EROS, her ad says all the right things, "Sweet Seductive & Intelligent. % iNdEPENdENt. Always discreet & No drama. Passionate & sensual, my goal is to keep you relaxed & coming back for more. Soft skin, beautiful lips & a perfect figure. $250 Donation. NO Negotiation on the rate" *It appears that she's taken out the $250 Donation as of 3/8/16*.
So I decided to TOFTT. I contacted Ashley. I asked if the donation was all inclusive no upsell. She said, "That is the donation. " Vague, but maybe she's being safe. My Spidey sense should be crazy now.
She got to my room the $$$ was for her show up and time only, and significant $$ upsell for more.
Bait and Switch and Exorbitant Upsell. Total scam. Beware.
http://liveescortreviews.com/search?search=4242097976&city=phoenix
http://nakedcity.com/video/245240/outcallse-iey-yte
FYI She's changed her number to 520-XXX-1073.
HardGentleman
04-20-16, 20:23
Total RipOff!
I went there today and paid for 30 min $$80. Eventually I left not finished after 15 min. She said time is over.
She said she only does doggy for this money, nothing else!
Beware!
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/60qklaurenbaby-crazy-body-curves/39109570
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/60qkspecials-h-extremely-mixxed-treatamazing-skill/37540275
Thanks for the report. Any ads which mentions "tips" such as her ad is automatically dns.
Total RipOff!
I went there today and paid for 30 min $$80. Eventually I left not finished after 15 min. She said time is over.
She said she only does doggy for this money, nothing else!
Beware!
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/60qklaurenbaby-crazy-body-curves/39109570
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/60qkspecials-h-extremely-mixxed-treatamazing-skill/37540275
They advertise as two girls in Mesa, she made me wait a long time after giving me directions to an apartment complex. She comes out to pick you up. Once inside, the place is very filthy. One of the girls lied about the level of service. Repeatedly. Please stay away. Much better options out there.
To make it worse they robbed me with the remaining cash. Never see providers without reviews.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/2-sexy-petite-latinasdouble-delicious-funsensual-4-hand-full-body-rub100-special/39213926
It is good protocol to not speak of the details of the service requested so she may have lied in order to not offer or agree to illegal services. However, you should probably not see two girls at once until you have seen individually one of the girls to make sure. Also a 15 minute visit with one of them first would be a good way to feel them out without a large financial risk.
They advertise as two girls in Mesa, she made me wait a long time after giving me directions to an apartment complex. She comes out to pick you up. Once inside, the place is very filthy. One of the girls lied about the level of service. Repeatedly. Please stay away. Much better options out there.
To make it worse they robbed me with the remaining cash. Never see providers without reviews.
http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/2-sexy-petite-latinasdouble-delicious-funsensual-4-hand-full-body-rub100-special/39213926
PoonHound602
04-29-16, 17:40
A report of a scam on another site. Also I contacted her before she had breast implants and I could tell over the phone she was up to no good:
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/5-star-experience/38028599
Also she was using a 424 on the other report in which she allegedly took $250 for a mere appearance fee.I think you're mixing up Kim / Chanel and Ashley. They look very similar but I don't believe they're the same girl. Kim (909 number) has several positive reviews on another site. Ashley (424 number) only has 1 and it's advising she's a ripoff.
I didn't find any pictures that crossed over between the ads and the more I looked at them the more dissimilar they looked. Confirmation would be nice.
JohnnyBoy1369
10-03-16, 01:57
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/truly-amazing/33797631
Visiting from out of town. Got the old cash and dash from this one. Stay away!This post is old but maybe someone will see this and answe. When you guys say "cash and dash" do you mean you were straight up robbed or she was just very quick about finishing you off and leaving once she got paid?
Danimal Forth
10-03-16, 16:57
This post is old but maybe someone will see this and answe. When you guys say "cash and dash" do you mean you were straight up robbed or she was just very quick about finishing you off and leaving once she got paid?It means taking the money and leaving. Perhaps she makes an excuse to go back to her car and never comes back or literally running out the door.
Desert Rat
10-10-16, 19:25
This is her ad:
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/petite-treat-midnight-special-sweet-and-sensual-made2-please/42834526
She is the girl in the pictures. We entered an empty one bedroom apartment. As soon we get to the bedroom and close the door I hear voices. She locks the door and there is no one except us two in the room. I give her $120 for HHR. She strips down and then the rules begin falling out of her mouth. No oral, no Mish, no touching. She will only do doggie style and I cannot touch her. The voices in the other room grow louder. Then she starts telling me to hurry up. I have literally been in the apartment all of 5 minutes. There is a light knock on the door. I have been down the road before and get dressed as fast as I can. I leave the condom on my dick. She goes for the door. I remind her she is naked. She gets dressed. I politely ask her have her friends step away from the door and I will leave immediately. She yells for them to step back. Jada opens the door and I run to the front door and out to the parking lot. Her two friends were a large black male and large Hispanic woman. I was in the apartment for less than 10 minutes and is cost me $120. I am fortunate I left intact and wanted to warn everyone away from this girl.
There was a whole crew up on 9th Street and Bell some time ago. Started with a 19 year old blonde girl with tattoos and apparently she left and now just an older lady and this new black girl. I believe another hobbyist identified a pimp who went by the name "Emmit" who was the leader of that criminal enterprise and that other hobbyist posted a warning. Should have listed to the other hobbyist.
This is her ad:
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/petite-treat-midnight-special-sweet-and-sensual-made2-please/42834526
She is the girl in the pictures. We entered an empty one bedroom apartment. As soon we get to the bedroom and close the door I hear voices. She locks the door and there is no one except us two in the room. I give her $120 for HHR. She strips down and then the rules begin falling out of her mouth. No oral, no Mish, no touching. She will only do doggie style and I cannot touch her. The voices in the other room grow louder. Then she starts telling me to hurry up. I have literally been in the apartment all of 5 minutes. There is a light knock on the door. I have been down the road before and get dressed as fast as I can. I leave the condom on my dick. She goes for the door. I remind her she is naked. She gets dressed. I politely ask her have her friends step away from the door and I will leave immediately. She yells for them to step back. Jada opens the door and I run to the front door and out to the parking lot. Her two friends were a large black male and large Hispanic woman. I was in the apartment for less than 10 minutes and is cost me $120. I am fortunate I left intact and wanted to warn everyone away from this girl.
Desert Rat
10-11-16, 01:47
I did see post #84. It sounds very much like what happened to me but does not list a location or description of the provider. I would recommend avoiding the apartments at 9th Street and Bell Rd. The location was very seedy and many people sitting around in the afternoon drinking OE and smoking. Nobody even blinked when this big ass cracker (me) came hauling ass out of the apartment and went straight for the parking lot.
DontKnowMe19
10-11-16, 02:20
I did see post #84. It sounds very much like what happened to me but does not list a location or description of the provider. I would recommend avoiding the apartments at 9th Street and Bell Rd. The location was very seedy and many people sitting around in the afternoon drinking OE and smoking. Nobody even blinked when this big ass cracker (me) came hauling ass out of the apartment and went straight for the parking lot.I remember making that mistake. A year ago, I saw a girl at a cheap apartment in Mesa. She told me she was alone and we could be in her apartment. So we get through the door and there is a huge AA male on the floor passed out. With a 40 next to him, I'm like if this is her BF, I'm screwed. So another comes out and she says we to a 2 girl show. I said no, and I have no clue why I stayed. So we get down to it, 30 second CBJ, Doggy, and that's all she wrote. I faked coming, left the cover on and walked fast out of the apartment. After the door closed, I ran straight to my ride, put that suckered in reverse and booked it out of there. She's long gone but man, I'll say that I got off so lucky.
Midnight247
01-02-17, 19:13
200 will only get you an he job. Thanks for ripping me off. If you want to pay 350 plus and waste your money go here. Sun City sucks.
Been communicating with this girl on WYP, was recommended by someone on here she went by Sweetness1212 on there, anyway none of this is his fault apparently he had a nice time with her, anyway to make a long story short. Finally got to see Lechele (this was the name she used when meeting my friend on here), in her text she told me her name was Laylla, got to her place, and the plan was to take her where I was staying because she had a baby sitter coming to her place, which I was fine with, she was at the Crosslands Motel on 51 ave and Mcdowell, I agreed to pick her up at 11, I was there right at 11, well after several texts and other excuses she finally came to the car about 30 min later. I offered $50 on WYP but thru the texts we agreed on 100 for outcall. She asked for the money so she could pay the sitter said she would be back in a min, left a purse in my car. Well guess what she never came back, after about 5 min I checked the suspicious looking purse and it was completely empty, some trash purse she probably found. I sent her a text saying "Now why would you rip me off, this purse is completely empty" she came right back within seconds and said "Who told you to look in it. You failed the test this job is all about trust plus I'm not there anymore Thank You" She's a scam artist and A LOON JUST so you know, got me for $100, I reported it to WYP, and it looks like her entire profile is gone now plus they reimbursed me the credits I used to communicate with her. I still feel pretty stupid falling for that one, live and learn.
Been communicating with this girl on WYP, was recommended by someone on here she went by Sweetness1212 on there, anyway none of this is his fault apparently he had a nice time with her, anyway to make a long story short. Finally got to see Lechele (this was the name she used when meeting my friend on here), in her text she told me her name was Laylla, got to her place, and the plan was to take her where I was staying because she had a baby sitter coming to her place, which I was fine with, she was at the Crosslands Motel on 51 ave and Mcdowell, I agreed to pick her up at 11, I was there right at 11, well after several texts and other excuses she finally came to the car about 30 min later. I offered $50 on WYP but thru the texts we agreed on 100 for outcall. She asked for the money so she could pay the sitter said she would be back in a min, left a purse in my car. Well guess what she never came back, after about 5 min I checked the suspicious looking purse and it was completely empty, some trash purse she probably found. I sent her a text saying "Now why would you rip me off, this purse is completely empty" she came right back within seconds and said "Who told you to look in it. You failed the test this job is all about trust plus I'm not there anymore Thank You" She's a scam artist and A LOON JUST so you know, got me for $100, I reported it to WYP, and it looks like her entire profile is gone now plus they reimbursed me the credits I used to communicate with her. I still feel pretty stupid falling for that one, live and learn.Saw the same post your referred to and looked at her profile on WYP. Just didn't add for her saying she was a nurse and not working. Plenty of well paying jobs as a nurse around here.
Saw the same post your referred to and looked at her profile on WYP. Just didn't add for her saying she was a nurse and not working. Plenty of well paying jobs as a nurse around here.I'm the one who recommended her to Jo Kuz. We've shared info in the past.
Had an encounter with her several months ago.
No problem or I would NOT have recommended / shared her info.
If I remember it was. 80 for BBBJ and FS.
HOWEVER, most of theses Ho's will do ANYTHING for CASH.
I'm very sure Jo Kuz's Rip-Off report is 100% accurate.
As far as her claim to be a"Nurse", she lost her license for DRUG use! Is anyone surprised?
These Ho's make LOTS of bad decisions in life.
Glad Jo posted a picture of her, so everyone knows who this scammer / thief is.
Would NEVER she her again, AVOID like the plague.
Jo's report is a prime example of why I will NOT give them the cash until my dick is down their throat or rammed in their pussy!
In fact, did NOT pay this Ho until I dropped her off.
We have the CASH, we make the rules!
JAMESJ.
I'm the one who recommended her to Jo Kuz. We've shared info in the past.
Had an encounter with her several months ago.
No problem or I would NOT have recommended / shared her info.
If I remember it was. 80 for BBBJ and FS.
HOWEVER, most of theses Ho's will do ANYTHING for CASH.
I'm very sure Jo Kuz's Rip-Off report is 100% accurate.
As far as her claim to be a"Nurse", she lost her license for DRUG use! Is anyone surprised?
These Ho's make LOTS of bad decisions in life.
Glad Jo posted a picture of her, so everyone knows who this scammer / thief is.
Would NEVER she her again, AVOID like the plague.
Jo's report is a prime example of why I will NOT give them the cash until my dick is down their throat or rammed in their pussy!
In fact, did NOT pay this Ho until I dropped her off.
We have the CASH, we make the rules!
JAMESJ.I think she has a new profile on WYP as Chyna3355. Says she is 30 and a nurse. One picture. To lose her license as a nurse she had to be really stupid either stealing medications or showing up high. Employers rarely do random drug screens.
I think she has a new profile on WYP as Chyna3355. Says she is 30 and a nurse. One picture. To lose her license as a nurse she had to be really stupid either stealing medications or showing up high. Employers rarely do random drug screens.100 % sure this IS NOT Sweetness1212 AKA Lechelle (she ripped Jo Kuz off).
Sweetness / Lechelle is 5'8" tall, not 5'2" as Chyna3355 advertises.
Since I "had " her at my abode, spent time with her, would definitely recognize her.
Coincidence they both claim to be nurses.
JAMESJ.
The scammer who I reported earlier know then as Sweetness1212 is back on WYP as CAT1212, I already reported her again, this girl will never learn.
https://members.whatsyourprice.com/~cat1212
Don't know if the link will work you might have to be a member.
BumpinUglies
10-13-17, 12:45
The scammer who I reported earlier know then as Sweetness1212 is back on WYP as CAT1212, I already reported her again, this girl will never learn.
https://members.whatsyourprice.com/~cat1212
Don't know if the link will work you might have to be a member.Have had a lengthy convo with "Lachele" after seeing the posts here I am kinda glad I didn't meet her.
Thanks for the heads up guys.
The scammer who I reported earlier know then as Sweetness1212 is back on WYP as CAT1212, I already reported her again, this girl will never learn.
https://members.whatsyourprice.com/~cat1212
Don't know if the link will work you might have to be a member.You are absolutely correct JO KUZ!
BTW, her profile has been removed AGAIN as of 10:15 AM.
She sent me a wink late last night. I knew it was her, but did NOT respond.
This time claiming to be 30 (she's actually 40 or 42), last time claimed to be 36. Also she shrank from 5' 8' to 5' 7'.
Guess she's running her legs off after ROBBING people. (LOL).
This is why this board / reporting theses thieves / rip-offs is so important.
JOB WELL DONE!
JAMESJ.
You are absolutely correct JO KUZ!
BTW, her profile has been removed AGAIN as of 10:15 AM.
She sent me a wink late last night. I knew it was her, but did NOT respond.
This time claiming to be 30 (she's actually 40 or 42), last time claimed to be 36. Also she shrank from 5' 8' to 5' 7'.
Guess she's running her legs off after ROBBING people. (LOL).
This is why this board / reporting theses thieves / rip-offs is so important.
JOB WELL DONE!
JAMESJ.I had met up with her almost a year ago maybe?
Picked her up in front of her "house" (I watched someone drop her off almost a block away and then she walked to where I was supposed to be parked) (oh and I never park where they tell me, I circle around and stay one or two intersections away to watch. Then I just play dumb when they tell me they're coming out.).
Drove to jack in the box, we were both hungry. Then she had a friend who had a hotel room. She had said that she had a room and that's where we could go.
Anyways, at this point I was just looking to get her out of my car. She did the "leave a bag in my car" thing but I gently set the empty purse outside on the curb.
She went to the room to let her friends know she was there. (Again I had parked several spots away from where she pointed and said oh I thought you meant here!) as she was walking up I saw 3 clear tweakers walk down the stairs from the areea her room was. This is when I put her purse outside, then I drove off.
I had reported her on WYP hoping that would prevent another profile, they did ban her but apparently that's not enough.
I'll be sure to post any other robbers / scammers immediately. Sorry anyone had to deal with her!
The scammer who I reported earlier know then as Sweetness1212 is back on WYP as CAT1212, I already reported her again, this girl will never learn.
https://members.whatsyourprice.com/~cat1212
Don't know if the link will work you might have to be a member.Avoid Greeneyedenigma or dl*ntel on WYP. Says 51 years old more like somewhere between 61 and 71, photos are attractive, funny profile but is a lesbian looking for us to provide a woman she can enjoy. Pictures have to be at least 10 + years old, thinner in the face, dull hair colored, should have walked away when met her. Posted my report in the General Report page. Got to start thinking with the big head. That these b*tches are all trying to get one over us, lying about their age, pictures, occuptaions, intentions.
I know it is kinda of funny but still pissed about wasting my time and money on her. Reported her as a scammer to WYP. Wondering what they will do.
Avoid the girl goes by Sasha B* on WYP, (not her real name) she also has a SA account. Agreed to $100 offer, had a excellent initial date, she said all the perfect things and was very good in Bed. Day 2 texted me with major crisis, I don't want to go over the details, but I gave her some cash (several hundred dollars) to help her out, with the agreement we would be spending a lot of time together over the next couple days, I am only in town for a few days. Delivered her the money and spent about about an hour with her had lunch and she had to get back home to her 4 yr old who was sleeping. She was one of the few girls I have dealt with who replied to texts always immediately and arrived on time to my hotel. Well I texted her a few hours later to see how things were going, plus we were supposed to get together that night, she even said her Mom was babysitting for the whole night, which meant a sleepover, but no reply, several more texts no reply, called her from another number she answered and hung up when I told her who I was. Conned me completely and I looking back I should have seen it coming, the things she said to me were like too perfect, well scripted and a great actress. A total scammer, and I feel pretty stupid about the whole thing, She also does cam shows on Youkandy. I think I am going to close my WYP account I had very little luck on there and it seems like most of these girls are just looking for a quick buck and not a real SD. I block her on WYP and was gong to report her but when I went back in today it said the account was deactivated or closed, so I assume she closed it, probably show up as someone else soon enough. I already closed my SA account so I couldn't look her up on there, that's why I enclosed the pics so yo guys know what she looks like. She supposedly works at a bar in Mesa, I was going to go there and confront her but probably not even worth it and was probably a lie anyway. I also should of been auspicious when she never wanted me to pick her up at her house, I was going send an Uber for her and she said she would find another way, i guess so she didn't have to give me her address.
https://www.youkandy.com/sashabllak/Webcam
Avoid the girl goes by Sasha B* on WYP, (not her real name) she also has a SA account. Agreed to $100 offer, had a excellent initial date, she said all the perfect things and was very good in Bed. Day 2 texted me with major crisis, I don't want to go over the details, but I gave her some cash (several hundred dollars) to help her out, with the agreement we would be spending a lot of time together over the next couple days, I am only in town for a few days. Delivered her the money and spent about about an hour with her had lunch and she had to get back home to her 4 yr old who was sleeping. She was one of the few girls I have dealt with who replied to texts always immediately and arrived on time to my hotel. Well I texted her a few hours later to see how things were going, plus we were supposed to get together that night, she even said her Mom was babysitting for the whole night, which meant a sleepover, but no reply, several more texts no reply, called her from another number she answered and hung up when I told her who I was. Conned me completely and I looking back I should have seen it coming, the things she said to me were like too perfect, well scripted and a great actress. A total scammer, and I feel pretty stupid about the whole thing, She also does cam shows on Youkandy. I think I am going to close my WYP account I had very little luck on there and it seems like most of these girls are just looking for a quick buck and not a real SD. I block her on WYP and was gong to report her but when I went back in today it said the account was deactivated or closed, so I assume she closed it, probably show up as someone else soon enough. I already closed my SA account so I couldn't look her up on there, that's why I enclosed the pics so yo guys know what she looks like. She supposedly works at a bar in Mesa, I was going to go there and confront her but probably not even worth it and was probably a lie anyway. I also should of been auspicious when she never wanted me to pick her up at her house, I was going send an Uber for her and she said she would find another way, i guess so she didn't have to give me her address.
https://www.youkandy.com/sashabllak/WebcamI've met with her a few times. She's a stripper but I can't remember which club she works at. I've always had good luck with her, she does a great job and is up for anything.
It's unfortunate she pulled this on you. But I think we all know better than to give a few hundred with a promise from any of these girls. Even the ones who are legitimately looking for an SD just want the cash. They will meet one day, have a "crisis" begging for money, ignore them. They will always call back and meet again, then have another "crisis".
I know we all know better, but most of us have done this. It's one thing to say it, it's another to meet someone like this who makes it seem like she's 100% honest and into you. When a women we think likes us beats their little eyelashes it's hard to say no.
A good lesson to take is even if she's your sugarbaby for years, there are always rules. I will only ever give a little bit of cash (less than $100) between meetings if they need gas money or something like that. Even then I 100% request a video of them enjoying themselves and send the money after I get it. This helps remind myself I'm a client, they are not my girlfriend.
Avoid the girl goes by Sasha B* on WYP, (not her real name) she also has a SA account. Agreed to $100 offer, had a excellent initial date, she said all the perfect things and was very good in Bed. Day 2 texted me with major crisis, I don't want to go over the details, but I gave her some cash (several hundred dollars) to help her out, with the agreement we would be spending a lot of time together over the next couple days, I am only in town for a few days. Delivered her the money and spent about about an hour with her had lunch and she had to get back home to her 4 yr old who was sleeping. She was one of the few girls I have dealt with who replied to texts always immediately and arrived on time to my hotel. Well I texted her a few hours later to see how things were going, plus we were supposed to get together that night, she even said her Mom was babysitting for the whole night, which meant a sleepover, but no reply, several more texts no reply, called her from another number she answered and hung up when I told her who I was. Conned me completely and I looking back I should have seen it coming, the things she said to me were like too perfect, well scripted and a great actress. A total scammer, and I feel pretty stupid about the whole thing, She also does cam shows on Youkandy. I think I am going to close my WYP account I had very little luck on there and it seems like most of these girls are just looking for a quick buck and not a real SD. I block her on WYP and was gong to report her but when I went back in today it said the account was deactivated or closed, so I assume she closed it, probably show up as someone else soon enough. I already closed my SA account so I couldn't look her up on there, that's why I enclosed the pics so yo guys know what she looks like. She supposedly works at a bar in Mesa, I was going to go there and confront her but probably not even worth it and was probably a lie anyway. I also should of been auspicious when she never wanted me to pick her up at her house, I was going send an Uber for her and she said she would find another way, i guess so she didn't have to give me her address.
https://www.youkandy.com/sashabllak/WebcamI have to agree with you, they all want a sugar daddy who don't want sugar. Too many scrammers, gotten ripped off by one, Nikkie, I think WYP removed her after reported her. I've had a couple want me to send money through online apps after meeting, one's story about having to pay rent after first telling me in meeting that she lives with family didn't add up, PocaAna, another Cece wanted me to send $25, after that never heard from her again. Or if we do hook up, they are I think a short step, from homeless, and not that very enjoyable in bed, PocoAna, and Tammy. Or just flat out flake out at the moment of truth in meeting, Tinybutlegal keep on flaking out in meeting, and just last night was supposed to meet Leababy but then she said she could not get a ride and would not reply to my texts.
Once my credits are used up, I will cancel my membership, though have a lot of them as sprung for 1000 credits so I think I'm getting a pretty good idea of women's behavior on WYP.
Not her real name but her email address name will show Brittney V.
She will answer your CL ad and is a total liar and thief.
Blonde, missing most of her teeth.
She will scam you, give you all sorts of sad stories and will eyeball everything in your place a grab what she can.
Beware.
WorkForFood
03-10-18, 11:47
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You posted this on CL as well. But I have to post a total different opinion. She is not a liar. Very open and fun to talk with. She does have her teeth and loved too kiss and kisses well. No scam and no sad stories. Just a lot of fun. We had to have an extended car date and she took off everything and let my hands roam where they wanted. Including squeezing her nice a* She gives a really good BJ and let me CIM. So long story short. She is not at all like you stated!Next time you see her please get my iPad back. Yes she is missing most of her teeth. You must be speaking about somebody different. She said she had a gum infection and showed me her mostly empty mouth. I had many replies from other dudes that have had the same experience as me.
Not her real name but her email address name will show Brittney V.
She will answer your CL ad and is a total liar and thief.
Blonde, missing most of her teeth.
She will scam you, give you all sorts of sad stories and will eyeball everything in your place a grab what she can.
Beware.What did she drive?
Been using WYP for several years.
WYP is attempting to scam it's paying members (us guys).
The scenario they are using: I (the guy) puts in a low ball offer to a gal. She immediately accepts. Sends a generic message "Hi, how are you? ".
The problem, if you review her profile, she (the provider) has NOT logged in for several days.
How can the provider accept a date, with out logging in?
This AM, is the 3rd time this scenario happened to me in the past 2 weeks.
Yeah, I know I'm a cheap ass, but does WYP need to stoop this low?
Today, I did NOT unlock the date!
If you unlock the "date " , using your credits and send the provider a message, you never hear back. But BINGO, your credits are used!
Guess who profits from this scam?
This is just a heads up warning to my fellow hobbyist.
Please check the login time of the provider against when she accepted the date.
Happy Hunting, and the games continue!
JAMESJ.
Been using WYP for several years.
WYP is attempting to scam it's paying members (us guys).
The scenario they are using: I (the guy) puts in a low ball offer to a gal. She immediately accepts. Sends a generic message "Hi, how are you? ".
The problem, if you review her profile, she (the provider) has NOT logged in for several days.
How can the provider accept a date, with out logging in?
This AM, is the 3rd time this scenario happened to me in the past 2 weeks.
Yeah, I know I'm a cheap ass, but does WYP need to stoop this low?
Today, I did NOT unlock the date!
If you unlock the "date " , using your credits and send the provider a message, you never hear back. But BINGO, your credits are used!
Guess who profits from this scam?
This is just a heads up warning to my fellow hobbyist.
Please check the login time of the provider against when she accepted the date.
Happy Hunting, and the games continue!
JAMESJ.I'm compiling a list of offers I'v gotten. I don't reply unless they send messages first. But got alot that sent a hello and then never hear back again. I think this site is becoming a scammer paradise.
Been using WYP for several years.
WYP is attempting to scam it's paying members (us guys).
The scenario they are using: I (the guy) puts in a low ball offer to a gal. She immediately accepts. Sends a generic message "Hi, how are you? ".
The problem, if you review her profile, she (the provider) has NOT logged in for several days.
How can the provider accept a date, with out logging in?
This AM, is the 3rd time this scenario happened to me in the past 2 weeks.
Yeah, I know I'm a cheap ass, but does WYP need to stoop this low?
Today, I did NOT unlock the date!
If you unlock the "date " , using your credits and send the provider a message, you never hear back. But BINGO, your credits are used!
Guess who profits from this scam?
This is just a heads up warning to my fellow hobbyist.
Please check the login time of the provider against when she accepted the date.
Happy Hunting, and the games continue!
JAMESJ.I agree James. Site is totally fake and money hungry. Spent $$$ last two mkt be with no luck. It's time to try something else.
I'm compiling a list of offers I'v gotten. I don't reply unless they send messages first. But got alot that sent a hello and then never hear back again. I think this site is becoming a scammer paradise.
I agree James. Site is totally fake and money hungry. Spent $$$ last two mkt be with no luck. It's time to try something else.I've actually met numerous women (and scored some good pussy and head) from the WYP site.
WYP also has loads of scammers, as do most of theses sites.
My guess is they actually use real profiles that have been submitted by the ladies.
I've noticed many of the profiles are deleted a week or so AFTER they "accepted" a date / bid and sent the generic "Hi. How are you? " message.
My "theory" is the ladies delete their profiles, but WYP continues to leave them posted on the site, un be known to us. That would explain WHY they have not logged in.
We scan these profiles and submit bids. The "Site" my be programmed to automatically accept the date, and send the generic message.
I NEVER send the 1st message period. Usually I wait a few days after I receive their message, to see if they continue to log in.
Also, I might add, the women (providers) do not make any $$$ , just by sending us the an initial message.
The one profile of the 3 I mention in my previous post was deleted 6 days after they accepted my bid / sent me a message. (which I did NOT open).
The other 2 that accepted my bid, sent me a generic message (that I opened) their profiles where deleted about a week later, with NO reply to my message.
I think, if we are cautious, play a wait and see game, we should be able to weed thru WYP's attempt to scam us out of our credits.
JAMESJ.
Desert Rat
08-27-18, 16:55
I have been on seeking arrangement since almost the inception of the site. I have yet to meet any lady I would want to bed. The few I have met used fake pics and still wanted money. Do NOT waste your money on the site.
Goes by the name Flan, like the food, or Piper, depends on the day I guess. Communicates through Meetme app and Kik. Will send you pictures of her topless to entice but when you ask for one personally with differences such as a name or a clock, her camera "messes up" She only uses Cashapp, which in hindsight should have been a big red flag, So once you send her money, bye bye dough. She will send you sob stories on how she can't make it or her car won't work. Offered to pick her up but she declined and asked to arrange another meet. Another meet comes and she's in need of some money for her friend, and if you do, it will be boosted to a threesome. I agree. She wants to meet at a hotel, she sends the address and I go. I get there and start messaging her that I'm in the lobby and for her to come lead me back to the room. Lobby's empty so I should be easy to spot, since there is no one else around. She says she's already in the lobby, turns out she gave me the wrong address and then says it's my fault for going to the wrong hotel. So we set up one last meet, this time she says she works for this hotel so she can get the room for free but is asking for a little money for food. I said I will buy her food and drinks when I meet up. She then declines to be bought food. So I Get to the correct hotel have her send me her location and I'm there waiting. She says she's on the way there from her room. From where I am sitting I can see the elevators right in front of me. No woman comes through but she messages me "You're not here" I get mad and say that she is lying which she refutes, and I lie back and ask if when she went through the elevators which one did she pick out of the 3. She says middle. All 3 elevators were down for renovation, all guests were getting backs up to their rooms with the help of staff on the stairs so I left. She is actively messaging me right now asking to do another meet at my house, but for more money. Ended up getting Scammed out of 500 but hey, my mistake is your lesson I suppose.
TheSunDevil
09-29-18, 23:26
...but hey, my mistake is your lesson I suppose.You broke so many cardinal rules man. A lot of rookie mistakes. NEVER give a donation electronically, and certainly never before in person at the very least. Offer a donation after services are rendered if at all possible. Better luck next time.
You broke so many cardinal rules man. A lot of rookie mistakes. NEVER give a donation electronically, and certainly never before in person at the very least. Offer a donation after services are rendered if at all possible. Better luck next time.Anybody who says they've never been had has not been in the game too long.
TheSunDevil
09-30-18, 17:40
Anybody who says they've never been had has not been in the game too long.I hope our friend learns from that interaction. What is it they say? "Fool me once, fool me twice".
I'm pretty sure it's
"fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
A2
She is the ultimate rinser, so thought would place report in this section.
Also reported her to WYP.
Age 34,5'2' spinner (Amerasian) very cute.
Claims to live in Scottsdale, but lives near 27th av. And Bethany Home. Claims to have a Bachelors degree, but working as a nail tech. Go figure! (why do all these gals also claim to be Scottsdale hoes?
1st meeting a few weeks ago was a meet and greet / dinner. NO money exchanged.
2nd time, thought we had details worked out and agreed to drive up to the Canyon.
This gal is completely out of touch with reality, bordering on psychotic (inappropriate laughter etc).
Every time we stopped, she needed some trinket or bullshit. Finally told her enough was enough.
Tried to get me to pay for a $35 souvenir, I refused and walked out of shop. She finally coughed up the money. Left it in my trunk, then demanded the following day, I delivered to her! (it's useless to me. But teaching her a lesson).
On the way back she demanded a $100 per meet for "her time' since all she would do is hold hands. I laughed at her! Has NO clue what "mutually beneficial " arrangement means!
Found out I was going to Vegas later this month, had the audacity to request I pay for her trip, plus get her a separate room on the strip, so she could have " privacy " . NO sex period! Told her good luck with finding that sucker!
Please, please do NOT waste credits bidding on a date with her!
Hope WYP deletes her profile, BTW she claims to be on SA also.
And the hunt continues.
JAMESJ.
Desert Rat
10-02-18, 17:10
Anybody who says they've never been had has not been in the game too long.I got scammed early on by a girl who said she would get us a room at fleabag motel. I give her cash and she walks into the lobby while I sit outside. Unbeknownst to me she slipped out the backdoor and hoofed it down the alley. I sat in the car like an idiot for ten minutes then enter the lobby to find the night manager smiling at me. He said, she slipped out the back, Jack. I said, I will make a new plan, Stan and left with my tail between my legs.
TheSunDevil
10-02-18, 17:22
I hope our friend learns from that interaction. What is it they say? "Fool me once, fool me twice".
I'm pretty sure it's
"fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
A2Word to JW, and J Cole.
TheSunDevil
10-02-18, 17:28
I got scammed early on by a girl who said she would get us a room at fleabag motel. I give her cash and she walks into the lobby while I sit outside. Unbeknownst to me she slipped out the backdoor and hoofed it down the alley. I sat in the car like an idiot for ten minutes then enter the lobby to find the night manager smiling at me. He said, she slipped out the back, Jack. I said, I will make a new plan, Stan and left with my tail between my legs.I've been in that situation once before, but I bit the leather and walked in with her at the No Tell Motel at 3 am and acted like a road tripping couple. Made her put her ID down and paid in cash. I couldn't shake the idea that she "could" jet if she wanted. It's one time where the little head worked the situation out in conjunction with the big head. Duly noted though. Never let her out of my sight if she's got my cash in hand and services haven't been rendered.
Goes by the name Flan, like the food, or Piper, depends on the day I guess. Communicates through Meetme app and Kik. Will send you pictures of her topless to entice but when you ask for one personally with differences such as a name or a clock, her camera "messes up" She only uses Cashapp, which in hindsight should have been a big red flag, So once you send her money, bye bye dough. She will send you sob stories on how she can't make it or her car won't work. Offered to pick her up but she declined and asked to arrange another meet. Another meet comes and she's in need of some money for her friend, and if you do, it will be boosted to a threesome. I agree. She wants to meet at a hotel, she sends the address and I go. I get there and start messaging her that I'm in the lobby and for her to come lead me back to the room. Lobby's empty so I should be easy to spot, since there is no one else around. She says she's already in the lobby, turns out she gave me the wrong address and then says it's my fault for going to the wrong hotel. So we set up one last meet, this time she says she works for this hotel so she can get the room for free but is asking for a little money for food. I said I will buy her food and drinks when I meet up. She then declines to be bought food. So I Get to the correct hotel have her send me her location and I'm there waiting. She says she's on the way there from her room. From where I am sitting I can see the elevators right in front of me. No woman comes through but she messages me "You're not here" I get mad and say that she is lying which she refutes, and I lie back and ask if when she went through the elevators which one did she pick out of the 3. She says middle. All 3 elevators were down for renovation, all guests were getting backs up to their rooms with the help of staff on the stairs so I left. She is actively messaging me right now asking to do another meet at my house, but for more money. Ended up getting Scammed out of 500 but hey, my mistake is your lesson I suppose.I learned a lot from this experience and you guys. I met a girl on double list for a one time thing. Cash only and made sure to verify that she is real. She was nice only complaint was she had just kinda laid there like a piece of wood but still. But I guess I'm a walking magnet for scammers and I am in a big problem now. I saw a Instagram posts about meetups so I texted the number. We talked back and forth and she wanted me to give her money electronically. Told her no. She came back and said if I was to get Gift cards for her would that be good, I said sure, but only if was hand to hand exchange. I didn't get the cards until I met her. She never showed but now she is threatening me with blackmail because apparently she typed my number into Facebook and now she has access to my work and my family members. She or he idk, is saying that they are apart of a group known as anonymous and she has my phone number and my Facebook and my address since (earlier we had agreed to cash and I had given her my address until she had a sudden change of heart) She is threatening me with soliciting a minor even tho she said she was 21 and she wants 1000 dollars in gift cards by the 26th of this month. I don't know what to do and honestly I'm scared. She says she has access to my I. P. Address and my home address as well as my family members. She will give my info to the police if I don't pay up by then. Honestly I'm just scarred and confused and don't know where to go. I have screenshots of her ransom note I guess as well as her Facebook, Instagram and Steam account.
Entropy110
10-07-18, 11:14
I learned a lot from this experience and you guys. I met a girl on double list for a one time thing. Cash only and made sure to verify that she is real. She was nice only complaint was she had just kinda laid there like a piece of wood but still. But I guess I'm a walking magnet for scammers and I am in a big problem now. I saw a Instagram posts about meetups so I texted the number. We talked back and forth and she wanted me to give her money electronically. Told her no. She came back and said if I was to get Gift cards for her would that be good, I said sure, but only if was hand to hand exchange. I didn't get the cards until I met her. She never showed but now she is threatening me with blackmail because apparently she typed my number into Facebook and now she has access to my work and my family members. She or he idk, is saying that they are apart of a group known as anonymous and she has my phone number and my Facebook and my address since (earlier we had agreed to cash and I had given her my address until she had a sudden change of heart) She is threatening me with soliciting a minor even tho she said she was 21 and she wants 1000 dollars in gift cards by the 26th of this month. I don't know what to do and honestly I'm scared. She says she has access to my I. P. Address and my home address as well as my family members. She will give my info to the police if I don't pay up by then. Honestly I'm just scarred and confused and don't know where to go. I have screenshots of her ransom note I guess as well as her Facebook, Instagram and Steam account.Has this person showed proof they know all this information about you? What is their Instagram account? Anonymous does not target individuals like this so I don't think it is them. You have to wonder tho if what they are saying is true do you think they would stop them messing with you if you comply?
Hobby 101.
-never use your real name.
-use a burner phone not linked to anything.
-never use your real social media account.
-think with your big head.
-when in doubt get out.
TheSunDevil
10-07-18, 13:06
I learned a lot from this experience and you guys. I met a girl on double list for a one time thing. Cash only and made sure to verify that she is real. She was nice only complaint was she had just kinda laid there like a piece of wood but still. But I guess I'm a walking magnet for scammers and I am in a big problem now. I saw a Instagram posts about meetups so I texted the number. We talked back and forth and she wanted me to give her money electronically. Told her no. She came back and said if I was to get Gift cards for her would that be good, I said sure, but only if was hand to hand exchange. I didn't get the cards until I met her. She never showed but now she is threatening me with blackmail because apparently she typed my number into Facebook and now she has access to my work and my family members. She or he idk, is saying that they are apart of a group known as anonymous and she has my phone number and my Facebook and my address since (earlier we had agreed to cash and I had given her my address until she had a sudden change of heart) She is threatening me with soliciting a minor even tho she said she was 21 and she wants 1000 dollars in gift cards by the 26th of this month. I don't know what to do and honestly I'm scared. She says she has access to my I. P. Address and my home address as well as my family members. She will give my info to the police if I don't pay up by then. Honestly I'm just scarred and confused and don't know where to go. I have screenshots of her ransom note I guess as well as her Facebook, Instagram and Steam account.Anonymous doesn't operate for ransoms and cash / gift cards, so there's your first sign this is bullshit. Also, I highly doubt this person has your IP. I got to say, shame on you for only thinking with the little head here. Personal address on a first meet? No burner phone? Smh. But there's light at the end of the tunnel for you.
Start making posts on your social media that your shit got hacked.
"Hey guys, just making a blanket post to alert as many of you as possible. My social media and apparently email got hacked! If you receive any odd messages or Facebook cash requests please disregard. I think it's total balogna, but some robot message keeps asking me for money and gift cards. LOL. Stay safe out there, and remember, 8 characters, one capital, one special character, and at least one number!
Something along those lines for damage control. After that, lock your shit down. Go to your settings and privatize everything you can. "Friends only". You don't want this "anonymous" party to see the cards you're holding, right?
IF this person is serious they will reach out and say something to someone, but you can try your best to spin it as part of the hack. Lastly, break all communication with this anonymous party.
You can't do much about incriminating screen shots of your conversation from your phone number. You're a bone head for not downloading googlevoice or just buying a burner. Hopefully this doesn't go that far. Hell, that's a lot of effort for some gift cards that they probably know you cant afford anyway, because you wouldnt be trolling for free/sub $$.5 play if you had a disposable knot like that.
In summation gentleman:
1. Never give your address out to strangers. Meet in person somewhere else first! Hell, give them a neighbors address and ask them to call you when they arrive.
2. Keep a burner number! Use Kik. Use WhatsApp. Use googlevoice! But if you use your actual phone number, you will expose yourself. Providers reverse google search you just like you do to them, and if you don't you should you dipshit.
3. Never, ever, ever pay for services in advance. This one seems like common sense to me, but your PayPal, your Venmo, and all your other cash apps are tied to your phone number or email. They leave an electronic trail to who you paid as well and sometimes it's public!
Good luck dude. Hopefully your experience is a lesson to someone else. Keep me posted on what happens.
Anonymous doesn't operate for ransoms and cash / gift cards, so there's your first sign this is bullshit. Also, I highly doubt this person has your IP. I got to say, shame on you for only thinking with the little head here. Personal address on a first meet? No burner phone? Smh. But there's light at the end of the tunnel for you.
Start making posts on your social media that your shit got hacked.
"Hey guys, just making a blanket post to alert as many of you as possible. My social media and apparently email got hacked! If you receive any odd messages or Facebook cash requests please disregard. I think it's total balogna, but some robot message keeps asking me for money and gift cards. LOL. Stay safe out there, and remember, 8 characters, one capital, one special character, and at least one number!
Something along those lines for damage control. After that, lock your shit down. Go to your settings and privatize everything you can. "Friends only". You don't want this "anonymous" party to see the cards you're holding, right?
IF this person is serious they will reach out and say something to someone, but you can try your best to spin it as part of the hack. Lastly, break all communication with this anonymous party.
You can't do much about incriminating screen shots of your conversation from your phone number. You're a bone head for not downloading googlevoice or just buying a burner. Hopefully this doesn't go that far. Hell, that's a lot of effort for some gift cards that they probably know you cant afford anyway, because you wouldnt be trolling for free/sub $$.5 play if you had a disposable knot like that.
In summation gentleman:
1. Never give your address out to strangers. Meet in person somewhere else first! Hell, give them a neighbors address and ask them to call you when they arrive.
2. Keep a burner number! Use Kik. Use WhatsApp. Use googlevoice! But if you use your actual phone number, you will expose yourself. Providers reverse google search you just like you do to them, and if you don't you should you dipshit.
3. Never, ever, ever pay for services in advance. This one seems like common sense to me, but your PayPal, your Venmo, and all your other cash apps are tied to your phone number or email. They leave an electronic trail to who you paid as well and sometimes it's public!
Good luck dude. Hopefully your experience is a lesson to someone else. Keep me posted on what happens.I think what you said is perfect I for one will heed you advice.
TheSunDevil
10-08-18, 10:37
Per our friend LocoLobo's experience, I did a little independent investigation on DoubleList. Seems like a really shitty resource, very similar to the old craigslist w4m / casual encounters section. What I mean by that is MULTIPLE posts just phishing for pictures and personal information. I imagine you can expect a very similar fate as LocoLobo from his previous post.
I noticed the same posts with the same pictures in multiple cities. Most of which requesting g-rates photos including face. Robotic, cookie cutter script responses from them all if a response was received. I'll spare you the cinematics and details, but I won't be dabbling on that site any longer. I'm sure there are some legitimate posts on there, but the risk of getting two timed seems very high and likely.
Happy hunting you degenerate schmucks.
Desert Rat
10-08-18, 15:08
The easiest thing to do is shut down your fucking Facebook account. It is a waste of time and the company just sells your information to anyone that flashes some cash.
TheSunDevil
10-08-18, 15:57
The easiest thing to do is shut down your fucking Facebook account. It is a waste of time and the company just sells your information to anyone that flashes some cash.That's great as a preventative measure, but that'll look suspect as fuck if this anonymous party really does make a play for his employer or family. Quite the conundrum this guy is facing.
The easiest thing to do is shut down your fucking Facebook account. It is a waste of time and the company just sells your information to anyone that flashes some cash.Anybody that has various social media accounts, and also participates in this hobby, is absolutely out of their fucking mind. !
Too many ways for some scammers to track you down, attempt blackmail etc.
BTW, BLACKMAIL is illegal. Tell the mother fuckers to call the cops and tell them to explain to the cops why they are trying to shake you down!
JAMESJ.
PhxFunLover
10-08-18, 23:21
I learned a lot from this experience and you guys. I met a girl on double list for a one time thing. Cash only and made sure to verify that she is real. She was nice only complaint was she had just kinda laid there like a piece of wood but still. But I guess I'm a walking magnet for scammers and I am in a big problem now. I saw a Instagram posts about meetups so I texted the number. We talked back and forth and she wanted me to give her money electronically. Told her no. She came back and said if I was to get Gift cards for her would that be good, I said sure, but only if was hand to hand exchange. I didn't get the cards until I met her. She never showed but now she is threatening me with blackmail because apparently she typed my number into Facebook and now she has access to my work and my family members. She or he idk, is saying that they are apart of a group known as anonymous and she has my phone number and my Facebook and my address since (earlier we had agreed to cash and I had given her my address until she had a sudden change of heart) She is threatening me with soliciting a minor even tho she said she was 21 and she wants 1000 dollars in gift cards by the 26th of this month. I don't know what to do and honestly I'm scared. She says she has access to my I. P. Address and my home address as well as my family members. She will give my info to the police if I don't pay up by then. Honestly I'm just scarred and confused and don't know where to go. I have screenshots of her ransom note I guess as well as her Facebook, Instagram and Steam account.I am assuming the one from doublelist is not the same one blackmailing you? Anyways, don't worry about "her" giving your information to the cops, she is trying to extort you which is also a crime as long as in the conversations she never said she was underage you should be fine. Don't pay shit, reset your router at home and its password along with other passwords just in case. You learned the lesson about giving out your address now I hope. Also, anonymous typically doesn't do scams like this but they could be loosly affiliated. Anonymous isn't something to be scared of they are hacktivist and target organizations they deem evil.
I am assuming the one from doublelist is not the same one blackmailing you? Anyways, don't worry about "her" giving your information to the cops, she is trying to extort you which is also a crime as long as in the conversations she never said she was underage you should be fine. Don't pay shit, reset your router at home and its password along with other passwords just in case. You learned the lesson about giving out your address now I hope. Also, anonymous typically doesn't do scams like this but they could be loosly affiliated. Anonymous isn't something to be scared of they are hacktivist and target organizations they deem evil.To be honest with you, I don't remember how I got her Instagram page, it just sorta happened? And I actually have never used doublelist, it just reeks of bots. As for a follow up to my predicament, I did in fact get the local authorities involved after a sought legal consultation from a lawyer in phoenix who agreed to help me for a whopping 35 bucks. She was understanding and told me how to communicate to my troubles to Johnny law without getting myself in deep sh*t. We were not able to get the person behind the posts but as far as the detective is more concerned, I'm in a good person with "needs" but I should never do it again. If they ever decide to come for me for solicitation, my lawyer said she would fight tooth and nail because of my situation. Never contacted the person again. If you see a scammy profile under the same name of "csally" RUN. As crazy as this situation has been, I did acquire a new number, a burner number (as TheSunDevil had prescribed), new router (old one was sh*t anyway), a kik without my name attached to it and am looking at cheap ass hotels for avoid any encounters that could potentially harm me. Any other tips from casual encounters veterans I should know about before I embark on my next adventure? It's going to be a while before I do something again though. Looking back on it now, I made a lot of terrible mistakes. I'm just glad I came out practically unscathed, minus 35 smackaroos. I do hope that I can find something to take the edge of my life, a woman tho, not a bot LOL. Thanks to TheSunDevil for giving me that advice to put on Facebook and as it just so happens, the day I was going to tell people about being scammed or "hacked" ABC15 came out with a news story about Facebook profiles being copied for ransom. So it was kinda perfectly timed for my post.
TheSunDevil
10-10-18, 12:35
To be honest with you, I don't remember how I got her Instagram page, it just sorta happened? And I actually have never used doublelist, it just reeks of bots. As for a follow up to my predicament, I did in fact get the local authorities involved after a sought legal consultation from a lawyer in phoenix who agreed to help me for a whopping 35 bucks. She was understanding and told me how to communicate to my troubles to Johnny law without getting myself in deep sh*t. We were not able to get the person behind the posts but as far as the detective is more concerned, I'm in a good person with "needs" but I should never do it again. If they ever decide to come for me for solicitation, my lawyer said she would fight tooth and nail because of my situation. Never contacted the person again. If you see a scammy profile under the same name of "csally" RUN. As crazy as this situation has been, I did acquire a new number, a burner number (as TheSunDevil had prescribed), new router (old one was sh*t anyway), a kik without my name attached to it and am looking at cheap ass hotels for avoid any encounters that could potentially harm me. Any other tips from casual encounters veterans I should know about before I embark on my next adventure? It's going to be a while before I do something again though. Looking back on it now, I made a lot of terrible mistakes. I'm just glad I came out practically unscathed, minus 35 smackaroos. I do hope that I can find something to take the edge of my life, a woman tho, not a bot LOL. Thanks to TheSunDevil for giving me that advice to put on Facebook and as it just so happens, the day I was going to tell people about being scammed or "hacked" ABC15 came out with a news story about Facebook profiles being copied for ransom. So it was kinda perfectly timed for my post.Glad to hear you got that sorted out. I'd recommend building a relationship at a local No-Tell Motel. Anytime you set foot in the lobby make sure they know that you travel between "here" and California quite a bit for business. Sometimes at strange hours. This way you'll be able to check in at any hour and not raise any suspicions. Since we are on the subject of hobby expenses, you're going to want to get a prepaid debit card, or a separate online bank account. I recommend Chime (https://bit.ly/2pK2BBs) or Simple (https://bit.ly/2yeMe4v). 100% online so no paper trail to hit your home address, and managed 100% through mobile app. You can load them with cash like a green dot.
Last thing: Since I've moved here from the PNW, I've had to start utilizing new resources. ListCrawler is good. Just make sure to sift through comments in each posting for a few co-signs. Check how long the provider has been posting as well. I don't fuck with first time posters. Also, look at all the pictures in the profile. Are they candid photos? Or do they look professional? If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.
Stay frosty LocoLobo. I'm sure you'll have that veteran status in no time.
I'd add that you can Google Photos as well as phone numbers. Online secret bank account is a must. Help you to sort out scammers. In Chicago, I developed a rapport with several Notels. A few years back during one week, I took three different women on three adjacent days. The front desk lady thought it was pretty funny. But she knew enough to not say anything to the girls. They have no illusions about what's going on. One place even sold Condoms. Bob.
Glad to hear you got that sorted out. I'd recommend building a relationship at a local No-Tell Motel. Anytime you set foot in the lobby make sure they know that you travel between "here" and California quite a bit for business. Sometimes at strange hours. This way you'll be able to check in at any hour and not raise any suspicions. Since we are on the subject of hobby expenses, you're going to want to get a prepaid debit card, or a separate online bank account. I recommend Chime (https://bit.ly/2pK2BBs) or Simple (https://bit.ly/2yeMe4v). 100% online so no paper trail to hit your home address, and managed 100% through mobile app. You can load them with cash like a green dot.
Last thing: Since I've moved here from the PNW, I've had to start utilizing new resources. ListCrawler is good. Just make sure to sift through comments in each posting for a few co-signs. Check how long the provider has been posting as well. I don't fuck with first time posters. Also, look at all the pictures in the profile. Are they candid photos? Or do they look professional? If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.
Stay frosty LocoLobo. I'm sure you'll have that veteran status in no time.
TheSunDevil
10-11-18, 11:33
I'd add that you can Google Photos as well as phone numbers. Online secret bank account is a must. Help you to sort out scammers. In Chicago, I developed a rapport with several Notels. A few years back during one week, I took three different women on three adjacent days. The front desk lady thought it was pretty funny. But she knew enough to not say anything to the girls. They have no illusions about what's going on. One place even sold Condoms. Bob.Solid notes bob.
I know that some of our post histories don't show it, but there are some "newbies" on here who have resumes through other venues that precede them. Perhaps a private thread for "Hobbying 101" could be useful, with some sort of vetting or informal application process.
Desert Rat
10-12-18, 14:43
I know I am dating myself but when I started in the hobby you called women on the telephone. I could tell in two sentences what kind of lady I was dealing with on the phone. Unfortunately, texting is a whole different ball game and you cannot read anything about the other party including if you are talking to the Escort, Pimp, or a scammer. It takes a lot more work and leads down some dead end alleys.
TheSunDevil
10-12-18, 15:16
I know I am dating myself but when I started in the hobby you called women on the telephone. I could tell in two sentences what kind of lady I was dealing with on the phone. Unfortunately, texting is a whole different ball game and you cannot read anything about the other party including if you are talking to the Escort, Pimp, or a scammer. It takes a lot more work and leads down some dead end alleys.Probably a rotary phone, eh? I kid, but that's not such a bad idea. What I'm beginning to do is try to set up dates before the dates. I've met 3 providers for coffee last week. Literally bought them coffee. On the way home from work near their incall. I made it as convenient as possible for them. You'd be surprised how quickly $$$/hour * can* turn into $.5 (YMMV) once they realize you aren't LEO or Dexter. Goes double for if they fancy you.
I'm testing the theory that it will build for a more satisfying experience overall by just getting the anxiety of the first time meeting part out of the way. I've been able to discuss more openly EXACTLY what we want to do as well.
Keep in mind not every provider will want to meet for coffee, and some won't do it for "free". But if safety from LEO is a concern of yours, then meet in person prior to discussing any nefarious activity. Squeeze in a "LEO test" as well, and go from there. What's an additional $5 in investment into your hobby?
I try to build an ongoing pipeline of providers that I *could* see at any given time, rather than just seeing who is available right at the very moment that my little guy decides I need to see someone. It helps to keep a rolling balance or allowance for these type of activities. I know that every Wednesday and Friday I will see a provider if I want to. It's budgeted into my finances. LOL.
As always Desert Rat, thank you for your insight. Ironically your nostalgia and experience / wisdom reaffirmed the idea that I had been playing with. I'll let you guys know how it goes!
LuvingFully
10-12-18, 18:54
..... What I'm beginning to do is try to set up dates before the dates. I've met 3 providers for coffee last week. Literally bought them coffee. On the way home from work near their incall. I made it as convenient as possible for them. You'd be surprised how quickly $$$/hour * can* turn into $.5 (YMMV) once they realize you aren't LEO or Dexter. Goes double for if they fancy you....
This is GREAT. I'll try it too.
Probably a rotary phone, eh? I kid, but that's not such a bad idea. What I'm beginning to do is try to set up dates before the dates. I've met 3 providers for coffee last week. Literally bought them coffee. On the way home from work near their incall. I made it as convenient as possible for them. You'd be surprised how quickly $$$/hour * can* turn into $.5 (YMMV) once they realize you aren't LEO or Dexter. Goes double for if they fancy you.
I'm testing the theory that it will build for a more satisfying experience overall by just getting the anxiety of the first time meeting part out of the way. I've been able to discuss more openly EXACTLY what we want to do as well.
Keep in mind not every provider will want to meet for coffee, and some won't do it for "free". But if safety from LEO is a concern of yours, then meet in person prior to discussing any nefarious activity. Squeeze in a "LEO test" as well, and go from there. What's an additional $5 in investment into your hobby?
I try to build an ongoing pipeline of providers that I *could* see at any given time, rather than just seeing who is available right at the very moment that my little guy decides I need to see someone. It helps to keep a rolling balance or allowance for these type of activities. I know that every Wednesday and Friday I will see a provider if I want to. It's budgeted into my finances. LOL.
As always Desert Rat, thank you for your insight. Ironically your nostalgia and experience / wisdom reaffirmed the idea that I had been playing with. I'll let you guys know how it goes!Hell of a strategy!
TheSunDevil
10-14-18, 17:50
Hell of a strategy!Hell of a strategy indeed! It's story time now.
As I mentioned previously, I met with 3 providers for coffee. Of the three I parlayed one of them into an "initial consultation" where no donation or gift was required, and I turned an additional provider into a straight up no fee date that ended VERY well. Now, I'm not saying that this is dialed in to the point that I'd call it a science, but I'm throwing up some pretty good numbers this week.
NOT going to share any names at this time but what I will say is that these are providers from Listcrawler local to me in the Mesa area. Nothing special or unique about their postings, they just happened to respond to me and were open to meeting "off the clock" for coffee. As always, YMMV, but I'd love some additional data points so we can build a comprehensive theory or thesis here. This doesn't really belong in ripoff reports anymore, so look out for the dramatic conclusion of provider #3 in escort reports.
Stay frosty fellas.
Hell of a strategy indeed! It's story time now.
As I mentioned previously, I met with 3 providers for coffee. Of the three I parlayed one of them into an "initial consultation" where no donation or gift was required, and I turned an additional provider into a straight up no fee date that ended VERY well. Now, I'm not saying that this is dialed in to the point that I'd call it a science, but I'm throwing up some pretty good numbers this week.
NOT going to share any names at this time but what I will say is that these are providers from Listcrawler local to me in the Mesa area. Nothing special or unique about their postings, they just happened to respond to me and were open to meeting "off the clock" for coffee. As always, YMMV, but I'd love some additional data points so we can build a comprehensive theory or thesis here. This doesn't really belong in ripoff reports anymore, so look out for the dramatic conclusion of provider #3 in escort reports.
Stay frosty fellas.My man! I look forward to the conclusion of provider #3.
Desert Rat
10-15-18, 17:25
Hell of a strategy indeed! It's story time now.
As I mentioned previously, I met with 3 providers for coffee. Of the three I parlayed one of them into an "initial consultation" where no donation or gift was required, and I turned an additional provider into a straight up no fee date that ended VERY well. Now, I'm not saying that this is dialed in to the point that I'd call it a science, but I'm throwing up some pretty good numbers this week.
NOT going to share any names at this time but what I will say is that these are providers from Listcrawler local to me in the Mesa area. Nothing special or unique about their postings, they just happened to respond to me and were open to meeting "off the clock" for coffee. As always, YMMV, but I'd love some additional data points so we can build a comprehensive theory or thesis here. This doesn't really belong in ripoff reports anymore, so look out for the dramatic conclusion of provider #3 in escort reports.
Stay frosty fellas.You sir, are a genius. I find this very smart because LE in Mesa runs a lot of bait and switch tactics. They enjoy arresting people for seeking for sex with adults and claiming the punters are pedophiles. I wish you the best of luck and promise to keep my rotary telephone spinning full time.
Probably a rotary phone, eh? I kid, but that's not such a bad idea. What I'm beginning to do is try to set up dates before the dates. I've met 3 providers for coffee last week. Literally bought them coffee. On the way home from work near their incall. I made it as convenient as possible for them. You'd be surprised how quickly $$$/hour * can* turn into $.5 (YMMV) once they realize you aren't LEO or Dexter. Goes double for if they fancy you.
I'm testing the theory that it will build for a more satisfying experience overall by just getting the anxiety of the first time meeting part out of the way. I've been able to discuss more openly EXACTLY what we want to do as well.
Keep in mind not every provider will want to meet for coffee, and some won't do it for "free". But if safety from LEO is a concern of yours, then meet in person prior to discussing any nefarious activity. Squeeze in a "LEO test" as well, and go from there. What's an additional $5 in investment into your hobby?
I try to build an ongoing pipeline of providers that I *could* see at any given time, rather than just seeing who is available right at the very moment that my little guy decides I need to see someone. It helps to keep a rolling balance or allowance for these type of activities. I know that every Wednesday and Friday I will see a provider if I want to. It's budgeted into my finances. LOL.
As always Desert Rat, thank you for your insight. Ironically your nostalgia and experience / wisdom reaffirmed the idea that I had been playing with. I'll let you guys know how it goes!I'm surprised with had some luck with this. I tried to do this several times but have never had any luck!
Most of them think that you are just wasting their time. Or just get overly suspicious and think you are LE.
On their eyes it's a very awkward / suspicious request to meet just to talk.
AznDiggler321
11-25-18, 02:21
This is my first posting on this board. Unfortunately I was driven to do this after almost being robbed tonight.
It all began when I was cruising 27th Ave between CB and Northern. I had done a few rounds and was about to call it quits when I spotted a WSW in her mid to late 20's at the QT on Northern and 27th Ave. I picked her up and negotiated a rate of 80 and she told me that she had an incall nearby. She started texting and I should have known then to abandon ship but my little head was doing all of the thinking.
We arrived at what looked to be a not too shabby Homewood Suites on Dunlap near the 17. She had me park and I told her to go up first so I could survey the situation a bit. After a few minutes, I decided to head up to the room.
Once inside, I paid her the 80 at which point she told me she needed to use the restroom. I should have known then and there (after reading of similar rob instances) and left. Instead, I waited a few minutes at which point the door opened and I was facing 2 tall, strongly built Black men. They immediately demanded that I take everything out of my pockets (luckily I had left my wallet in the car). They took my keys and at that point one of them decided to go inspect my BMW (he was very happy to have "scored" a nicer car I guess). The other guy then tried to intimidate me and have me unlock my phone for him.
The girl came out of the bathroom and tried to bar the door. I surmised by now that the remaining guy didn't have a gun on him so I tried to force my way out of the door. He began to choke and restrain me (as well as the girl) and somehow my adrenaline kicked in and I just was able to force my way out of the room and ran as quickly as I could.
I called 911 and within minutes the cops were there. They drove me back to the parking lot of the hotel and luckily my car was still there. At first I lied to them about how I had met the girl but eventually after calling my cousin who is a cop in LA, I decided it was best to tell them the truth.
Once I did explain everything truthfully to them (which I'm sure they already knew since they kept asking me if she was a hooker or not), we were able to open up my car and fortunately my wallet was still inside.
So basically I lost $80 and my car keys but things could have ended much worse for me this evening.
I'm still shaking from the whole incident but I'm grateful the police let me go and I was able to get my spare keys from home.
I still can't believe I fell for their scam, especially since I've read about that same ploy where the girl goes to the bathroom with the money as soon as you give it to her.
Hopefully this will help anyone else in the future avoid the headache I went through this evening.
Man she got me and it's totally my fault. So I had gone to see her last ueadsy for a visit. Great time. Her BBBJ was top notch and I planned to return. So Thursday night and Friday we were texting and Friday morning we were setting up an appt for that night and she texts saying she needs some help as she needs to pay her room. Initially I was hesitant because I didn't feel like getting screeed over. Well we talked more and she told me her story, she's homeless, sick baby etc and that if I could help cover her room she'd do anything to make it up. She eventually offered me 3 sessions if I could cover the room. I chose to believe her and sent her the $$ We continued to talk and had plans for me to come by that night. She sent pics and continued to text. At one point her phone started acting up and she actually texted me from another number and she said she just wanted to make sure we were still able to talk and that she didn't want me to think she ghosted me. The texting continued and closer to our appointment time she asked to push it back a little as she is trying to get medicine for her sick child. I'm cool with it. I text her again and she's waiting for her baby to be picked up by her ex and well that's the last I heard from her. I'm mad at myself for letting the little head overrule the big head. Lesson learned. Crazy part is had she not scammed me she would've made much more with me as a client as I had planned to see her frequently. Live and learn. All I will say is Beware.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...601/4806659929
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...127/6028310857
I have noted several providers in this Motel asking for face pics of hobbyists. This in accordance with this report, seems to indicate that they are trying to compile personal info. Also if the first guy merely followed you home then he can steal your car at any time in the future, since he has the keys.
This is my first posting on this board. Unfortunately I was driven to do this after almost being robbed tonight.
It all began when I was cruising 27th Ave between CB and Northern. I had done a few rounds and was about to call it quits when I spotted a WSW in her mid to late 20's at the QT on Northern and 27th Ave. I picked her up and negotiated a rate of 80 and she told me that she had an incall nearby. She started texting and I should have known then to abandon ship but my little head was doing all of the thinking.
We arrived at what looked to be a not too shabby Homewood Suites on Dunlap near the 17. She had me park and I told her to go up first so I could survey the situation a bit. After a few minutes, I decided to head up to the room.
Once inside, I paid her the 80 at which point she told me she needed to use the restroom. I should have known then and there (after reading of similar rob instances) and left. Instead, I waited a few minutes at which point the door opened and I was facing 2 tall, strongly built Black men. They immediately demanded that I take everything out of my pockets (luckily I had left my wallet in the car). They took my keys and at that point one of them decided to go inspect my BMW (he was very happy to have "scored" a nicer car I guess). The other guy then tried to intimidate me and have me unlock my phone for him.
The girl came out of the bathroom and tried to bar the door. I surmised by now that the remaining guy didn't have a gun on him so I tried to force my way out of the door. He began to choke and restrain me (as well as the girl) and somehow my adrenaline kicked in and I just was able to force my way out of the room and ran as quickly as I could.
I called 911 and within minutes the cops were there. They drove me back to the parking lot of the hotel and luckily my car was still there. At first I lied to them about how I had met the girl but eventually after calling my cousin who is a cop in LA, I decided it was best to tell them the truth.
Once I did explain everything truthfully to them (which I'm sure they already knew since they kept asking me if she was a hooker or not), we were able to open up my car and fortunately my wallet was still inside.
So basically I lost $80 and my car keys but things could have ended much worse for me this evening.
I'm still shaking from the whole incident but I'm grateful the police let me go and I was able to get my spare keys from home.
I still can't believe I fell for their scam, especially since I've read about that same ploy where the girl goes to the bathroom with the money as soon as you give it to her.
Hopefully this will help anyone else in the future avoid the headache I went through this evening.
JoeDocks11
03-12-19, 14:42
Man she got me and it's totally my fault. So I had gone to see her last ueadsy for a visit. Great time. Her BBBJ was top notch and I planned to return. So Thursday night and Friday we were texting and Friday morning we were setting up an appt for that night and she texts saying she needs some help as she needs to pay her room. Initially I was hesitant because I didn't feel like getting screeed over. Well we talked more and she told me her story, she's homeless, sick baby etc and that if I could help cover her room she'd do anything to make it up. She eventually offered me 3 sessions if I could cover the room. I chose to believe her and sent her the $$ We continued to talk and had plans for me to come by that night. She sent pics and continued to text. At one point her phone started acting up and she actually texted me from another number and she said she just wanted to make sure we were still able to talk and that she didn't want me to think she ghosted me. The texting continued and closer to our appointment time she asked to push it back a little as she is trying to get medicine for her sick child. I'm cool with it. I text her again and she's waiting for her baby to be picked up by her ex and well that's the last I heard from her. I'm mad at myself for letting the little head overrule the big head. Lesson learned. Crazy part is had she not scammed me she would've made much more with me as a client as I had planned to see her frequently. Live and learn. All I will say is Beware.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...601/4806659929
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...127/6028310857For those that can't get the link to open.
http://archive.is/I9sl8
Man she got me and it's totally my fault. So I had gone to see her last ueadsy for a visit. Great time. Her BBBJ was top notch and I planned to return. So Thursday night and Friday we were texting and Friday morning we were setting up an appt for that night and she texts saying she needs some help as she needs to pay her room. Initially I was hesitant because I didn't feel like getting screeed over. Well we talked more and she told me her story, she's homeless, sick baby etc and that if I could help cover her room she'd do anything to make it up. She eventually offered me 3 sessions if I could cover the room. I chose to believe her and sent her the $$ We continued to talk and had plans for me to come by that night. She sent pics and continued to text. At one point her phone started acting up and she actually texted me from another number and she said she just wanted to make sure we were still able to talk and that she didn't want me to think she ghosted me. The texting continued and closer to our appointment time she asked to push it back a little as she is trying to get medicine for her sick child. I'm cool with it. I text her again and she's waiting for her baby to be picked up by her ex and well that's the last I heard from her. I'm mad at myself for letting the little head overrule the big head. Lesson learned. Crazy part is had she not scammed me she would've made much more with me as a client as I had planned to see her frequently. Live and learn. All I will say is Beware.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...601/4806659929
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...127/6028310857You got scammed, but l don't think it was her, her phone was out of commission and was using a text app. I got a text Friday too, and when l questioned her and it did not seem right so I asked her about something that she would know l received the wrong answer, and she would have known the answer since l have seen her multiple times and its something that has come up in convo when l see her.
You got scammed, but l don't think it was her, her phone was out of commission and was using a text app. I got a text Friday too, and when l questioned her and it did not seem right so I asked her about something that she would know l received the wrong answer, and she would have known the answer since l have seen her multiple times and its something that has come up in convo when l see her.Interesting. Who knows. I hit her up letting her know that she can make it right. But no response.
I wonder who it could've been if it wasn't her. Eveyhing points to her. Pics. Cashapp name etc.
TheSunDevil
03-12-19, 20:05
Looks like she deleted those posts, but I reverse searched the number. Is this her?
https://carfun.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/post/30263541/
https://escortalligator.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/post/29612303/
Looks like she deleted those posts, but I reverse searched the number. Is this her?
https://carfun.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/post/30263541/
https://escortalligator.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/post/29612303/Yep that's her. Both numbers I've texted.
Interesting. Who knows. I hit her up letting her know that she can make it right. But no response.
I wonder who it could've been if it wasn't her. Eveyhing points to her. Pics. Cashapp name etc.L reached out to her about it and told her that if she did it she needs to make it right, that my initial referral is what led up to you seeing her.
Interesting. Who knows. I hit her up letting her know that she can make it right. But no response.
I wonder who it could've been if it wasn't her. Eveyhing points to her. Pics. Cashapp name etc. She did the same to me i was going on here to report the issues to you guys. It was just much less (
50) she was probably doing me at the same time on Friday. . For me it was a cheap lesson.
I have no doubt it was her I talked with her about it.
She did the same to me i was going on here to report the issues to you guys. It was just much less (
50) she was probably doing me at the same time on Friday. . For me it was a cheap lesson.
I have no doubt it was her I talked with her about it.You talked to her after she ripped you off?
I attempted to. I'm sure she blocked my number LOL. I could totally blow her spot up at the hotel she stays at because she's always there.
AznDiggler321
03-13-19, 15:10
I have noted several providers in this Motel asking for face pics of hobbyists. This in accordance with this report, seems to indicate that they are trying to compile personal info. Also if the first guy merely followed you home then he can steal your car at any time in the future, since he has the keys.I am confident they didn't follow me home since I was with the cops for a good 30 minutes or so before I got my ride home to get my spare keys. I'm sure their not so sophisticated criminal minds realized it was best to flee the scene then jack my car and have the GPS kick in for them to be tracked.
Needless to say I'm never going anywhere near that area again.
L reached out to her about it and told her that if she did it she needs to make it right, that my initial referral is what led up to you seeing her.It's not your fault selasorp. I saw her twice without any issues but have been low key the last month.
We just need to be more cautious now a days.
L reached out to her about it and told her that if she did it she needs to make it right, that my initial referral is what led up to you seeing her.Appreciate that. Not expecting anything from her.
What did she say to you when you mentioned it?
You talked to her after she ripped you off?
I attempted to. I'm sure she blocked my number LOL. I could totally blow her spot up at the hotel she stays at because she's always there.No only before I haven't heard from her since. If she makes it right ill let all of you know. I doubt she will as she changed her number in her ad and hasn't contact me back from 4 different numbers I've tried.
AzPussyLicker
03-13-19, 21:28
No only before I haven't heard from her since. If she makes it right ill let all of you know. I doubt she will as she changed her number in her ad and hasn't contact me back from 4 different numbers I've tried.That happened to me with one girl. I texted from different numbers trying to set something up pretending to be someone else. Then ended up canceling saying I read online how she ripped off a well known reviewer. She text me apologizing and made it up.
The situation was she left me at her place. We started doing stuff. She got a phone call and had to run. She thought it would be 15 minutes. Her car stalled and her phone died. After 1 hour I left. She did call me apologizing 2 hours later. Another time I gave her more money for multiples. It got late and I was tired so I called it quits. She promised to see me again but never did.
A regular I had I gave her money in person for rent and she promised future dates. She ended up giving me her social security card to hold so I wouldn't think she was ripping me off. I told her she didn't have to but she insisted. She also wanted to write a contract for the money. I told her no.
I'm curious and if you don't mind me asking. How did you send her the money. It seems like you sent it electronically via cash app like paypal, venmo or google pay.
Appreciate that. Not expecting anything from her.
What did she say to you when you mentioned it?9.
She denied it. I told her it's her business but she should make it right and that there are senior members in a forum saying she did it and that l would be shocked for those reviews to be done if there was not some truth. After that nothing. I did ask her a question to verify it was her l was conversing with, and she correctly answered.
That happened to me with one girl. I texted from different numbers trying to set something up pretending to be someone else. Then ended up canceling saying I read online how she ripped off a well known reviewer. She text me apologizing and made it up.
The situation was she left me at her place. We started doing stuff. She got a phone call and had to run. She thought it would be 15 minutes. Her car stalled and her phone died. After 1 hour I left. She did call me apologizing 2 hours later. Another time I gave her more money for multiples. It got late and I was tired so I called it quits. She promised to see me again but never did.
A regular I had I gave her money in person for rent and she promised future dates. She ended up giving me her social security card to hold so I wouldn't think she was ripping me off. I told her she didn't have to but she insisted. She also wanted to write a contract for the money. I told her no.
I'm curious and if you don't mind me asking. How did you send her the money. It seems like you sent it electronically via cash app like paypal, venmo or google pay.I was a cash app I don't remember which one as I deleted it as it was way to easy to do.
Interesting. Who knows. I hit her up letting her know that she can make it right. But no response.
I wonder who it could've been if it wasn't her. Eveyhing points to her. Pics. Cashapp name etc.I spoke with her tonight, says her sister did it, that the info for her cash app and pics were saved on the phone, that she no longer has access to that phone and is using her text app on another device. I do know that her sister usually had the phone, and that it was shared as her sister actually had replied to me in the past saying that E was not available or that she was not with her. As l stated before, when l got a text on Friday l asked a question that E would know the answer to because the text seemed out of place to me, and the question was not correctly answered.
I spoke with her tonight, says her sister did it, that the info for her cash app and pics were saved on the phone, that she no longer has access to that phone and is using her text app on another device. I do know that her sister usually had the phone, and that it was shared as her sister actually had replied to me in the past saying that E was not available or that she was not with her. As l stated before, when l got a text on Friday l asked a question that E would know the answer to because the text seemed out of place to me, and the question was not correctly answered.The plot thickens LOL.
Desert Rat
03-14-19, 13:07
I spoke with her tonight, says her sister did it, that the info for her cash app and pics were saved on the phone, that she no longer has access to that phone and is using her text app on another device. I do know that her sister usually had the phone, and that it was shared as her sister actually had replied to me in the past saying that E was not available or that she was not with her. As l stated before, when l got a text on Friday l asked a question that E would know the answer to because the text seemed out of place to me, and the question was not correctly answered.I think the whole thing is a scam and sister is part of it. There are too many fish in the sea to deal with this kind of drama. I suggest moving on to a more stable provider.
I think the whole thing is a scam and sister is part of it. There are too many fish in the sea to deal with this kind of drama. I suggest moving on to a more stable provider.Big facts. I need to find a new BBBJ Provider.
I think the whole thing is a scam and sister is part of it. There are too many fish in the sea to deal with this kind of drama. I suggest moving on to a more stable provider.Desert Rat, you cracked me up using that phrase (LOL).
If you ever find a "Stable Provider " (just one) please, please let me know!
Be safe and happy hunting.
JAMESJ.
Desert Rat
03-15-19, 15:46
If you ever find a "Stable Provider " (just one) please, please let me know!
JAMESJ.Good point. If your life is grand, your Daddy loved you, and you are stable, then you would not be selling your pussy to strange men.
TheSunDevil
03-15-19, 16:50
Good point. If your life is grand, your Daddy loved you, and you are stable, then you would not be selling your pussy to strange men.Thank the good lord above for daddy issues.
Desert Rat
03-20-19, 13:29
I have been ripped off by providers several times, but the first was the fastest. I picked up a girl she told me to go to a seedy motel. She asked for money to get a room. Me, being new to the trade gave her money and watched her go into the manager's office. I wait a while and do not see her. I got into the manager's office and she had gone out the back door. I asked the manager where she went and he pointed to the back door and smiled. That was my first lesson as a hobbyist.
Man she got me and it's totally my fault. So I had gone to see her last ueadsy for a visit. Great time. Her BBBJ was top notch and I planned to return. So Thursday night and Friday we were texting and Friday morning we were setting up an appt for that night and she texts saying she needs some help as she needs to pay her room. Initially I was hesitant because I didn't feel like getting screeed over. Well we talked more and she told me her story, she's homeless, sick baby etc and that if I could help cover her room she'd do anything to make it up. She eventually offered me 3 sessions if I could cover the room. I chose to believe her and sent her the $$ We continued to talk and had plans for me to come by that night. She sent pics and continued to text. At one point her phone started acting up and she actually texted me from another number and she said she just wanted to make sure we were still able to talk and that she didn't want me to think she ghosted me. The texting continued and closer to our appointment time she asked to push it back a little as she is trying to get medicine for her sick child. I'm cool with it. I text her again and she's waiting for her baby to be picked up by her ex and well that's the last I heard from her. I'm mad at myself for letting the little head overrule the big head. Lesson learned. Crazy part is had she not scammed me she would've made much more with me as a client as I had planned to see her frequently. Live and learn. All I will say is Beware.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...601/4806659929
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...127/6028310857*UPDATE*.
So I spoke with her and she told me it was her sis and that she's done this before. She apologized and said she felt terrible. I told her I appreciated her getting back to me but I was still pissed about being out the money I was she asked could I come see her and I told her I could but was hesitant and how would I know it's her. She asked me how to prove it and I asked her to talk a pic doing a specific hand gesture. She did. She gave me her info and room number and told me to head over and she was going to shower. She sent a couple pics as well. I arrive and man oh man did she show me how sorry she was and made it up to me. In my dream she left me DRAINED and I left with a smile. I might be back because man oh man a woman who can suck like she can is hard to find.
AzPussyLicker
03-20-19, 16:53
Saw her earlier. Were you the one who left that big puddle of cum on her bed? She told me she doesn't post anymore because she has a good amount of regulars to keep her afloat. I asked her what number should I text since she had several. She did mention about her sister taking her phone and texting her clients. Offering 40 for an hour. She said her sister is a street walker and on drugs.
*UPDATE*.
So I spoke with her and she told me it was her sis and that she's done this before. She apologized and said she felt terrible. I told her I appreciated her getting back to me but I was still pissed about being out the money I was she asked could I come see her and I told her I could but was hesitant and how would I know it's her. She asked me how to prove it and I asked her to talk a pic doing a specific hand gesture. She did. She gave me her info and room number and told me to head over and she was going to shower. She sent a couple pics as well. I arrive and man oh man did she show me how sorry she was and made it up to me. In my dream she left me DRAINED and I left with a smile. I might be back because man oh man a woman who can suck like she can is hard to find.
Saw her earlier. Were you the one who left that big puddle of cum on her bed? She told me she doesn't post anymore because she has a good amount of regulars to keep her afloat. I asked her what number should I text since she had several. She did mention about her sister taking her phone and texting her clients. Offering 40 for an hour. She said her sister is a street walker and on drugs.Lmao. Nah I don't think that was me leaving the puddle. She took it all in the mouth. I noticed she hasn't been posting. What number did she say to text?
AzPussyLicker
03-20-19, 17:52
Lmao. Nah I don't think that was me leaving the puddle. She took it all in the mouth. I noticed she hasn't been posting. What number did she say to text?0857 number.
*UPDATE*.
So I spoke with her and she told me it was her sis and that she's done this before. She apologized and said she felt terrible. I told her I appreciated her getting back to me but I was still pissed about being out the money I was she asked could I come see her and I told her I could but was hesitant and how would I know it's her. She asked me how to prove it and I asked her to talk a pic doing a specific hand gesture. She did. She gave me her info and room number and told me to head over and she was going to shower. She sent a couple pics as well. I arrive and man oh man did she show me how sorry she was and made it up to me. In my dream she left me DRAINED and I left with a smile. I might be back because man oh man a woman who can suck like she can is hard to find.I've tried with no luck. I'd be causous with her and I hope she makes things right with me soon. Stay safe.
I had seen her before for $60 for the BBBJCIM. Then I went to see her again and we drove to a parking garage and she looked unkempt wearing a lot of perfume apparently due to not properly showering and appeared to be strung out. She only slid her top off partway and as I was about to finish the car BBBJ, a security guard in a golf cart pulled up on our starboard side and hailed us. Reluctantly I pulled my pants up and told him were were just talking. Then he told us to move along and leave the property. So we drove to a another parking spot and by the time we were parked again ready to go Ashton said the time was up because she counted the security guard time and move to another spot on the clock. I argued that under contract law the purpose of the BBBJ contract was to achieve the end result of specific performance of cim, and thus the doctrine of frustration of purpose applied and I was owed either a refund or a specific performance completion. She disagreed and argued that she tendered full performance for the time frame and that no particular guarantee of cim was required, despite her ad clearly advertising as such. Clearly, this amounted to a ripoff report and everyone is urged to avoid this excessive clock watcher. I had to vacuum my car to get the perfume residue and also she had a lot of long brunette hair which was falling out (possibly due to malnutrition) which required extra effort to vacuum and also would not property remove her top during the BBBJ which eventually reduced the experience.
https://escortalligator.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/post/31026655/ashton
Desert Rat
03-28-19, 01:18
Ashton said the time was up because she counted the security guard time and move to another spot on the clock.
https://escortalligator.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/post/31026655/ashtonI think if you chose the spot and got busted it is on you. However, if she chose that spot then she owes you a climax. If it was mutual decision you will have to go on Judge Judy and let the judge make a decision.
I had seen her before for $60 for the BBBJCIM. Then I went to see her again and we drove to a parking garage and she looked unkempt wearing a lot of perfume apparently due to not properly showering and appeared to be strung out. She only slid her top off partway and as I was about to finish the car BBBJ, a security guard in a golf cart pulled up on our starboard side and hailed us. Reluctantly I pulled my pants up and told him were were just talking. Then he told us to move along and leave the property. So we drove to a another parking spot and by the time we were parked again ready to go Ashton said the time was up because she counted the security guard time and move to another spot on the clock. I argued that under contract law the purpose of the BBBJ contract was to achieve the end result of specific performance of cim, and thus the doctrine of frustration of purpose applied and I was owed either a refund or a specific performance completion. She disagreed and argued that she tendered full performance for the time frame and that no particular guarantee of cim was required, despite her ad clearly advertising as such. Clearly, this amounted to a ripoff report and everyone is urged to avoid this excessive clock watcher. I had to vacuum my car to get the perfume residue and also she had a lot of long brunette hair which was falling out (possibly due to malnutrition) which required extra effort to vacuum and also would not property remove her top during the BBBJ which eventually reduced the experience.
https://escortalligator.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/post/31026655/ashtonShe says 15 minutes of her time, and yes BBBJ cim if you cam in less than the 15 minute mark. If you went over the time then too bad. I had seen her in the past and she allowed extra time, but YMMV, maybe she just wanted to be done with you.
TheSunDevil
03-28-19, 12:06
I had seen her before for $60 for the BBBJCIM. Then I went to see her again and we drove to a parking garage and she looked unkempt wearing a lot of perfume apparently due to not properly showering and appeared to be strung out. She only slid her top off partway and as I was about to finish the car BBBJ, a security guard in a golf cart pulled up on our starboard side and hailed us. Reluctantly I pulled my pants up and told him were were just talking. Then he told us to move along and leave the property. So we drove to a another parking spot and by the time we were parked again ready to go Ashton said the time was up because she counted the security guard time and move to another spot on the clock. I argued that under contract law the purpose of the BBBJ contract was to achieve the end result of specific performance of cim, and thus the doctrine of frustration of purpose applied and I was owed either a refund or a specific performance completion. She disagreed and argued that she tendered full performance for the time frame and that no particular guarantee of cim was required, despite her ad clearly advertising as such. Clearly, this amounted to a ripoff report and everyone is urged to avoid this excessive clock watcher. I had to vacuum my car to get the perfume residue and also she had a lot of long brunette hair which was falling out (possibly due to malnutrition) which required extra effort to vacuum and also would not property remove her top during the BBBJ which eventually reduced the experience.
https://escortalligator.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/post/31026655/ashtonYou always have to negotiate in the sub clause that states that she WILL work that nut out of you. If you can't negotiate that, then just don't hand over the "roses" until the job is done.
You always have to negotiate in the sub clause that states that she WILL work that nut out of you. If you can't negotiate that, then just don't hand over the "roses" until the job is done.Sorry that had happened to you but that had me 😂 LOL. Bring the clause up next time so there isn't a chance she can eradicate the sensitive time issues on the stupid security guard.
Desert Rat
03-29-19, 01:43
You always have to negotiate in the sub clause that states that she WILL work that nut out of you. If you can't negotiate that, then just don't hand over the "roses" until the job is done.I am not sure this is technically a ripoff report. You could have driven away with your cock in her mouth and then blew a load on the ride. You must learn to multi-task.
I am not sure this is technically a ripoff report. You could have driven away with your cock in her mouth and then blew a load on the ride. You must learn to multi-task.Very good point. Take some notes swanzegrande aka dr Poon🙌127995;.
Motel 6 recently in the news. Should be avoided due to recent event happening as we speak. A blonde volumptuous provider indicated that she was approached by two african american gentlemen with a business proposition to rob hobbyists and split half the money with her. She declined the offer but these two citizens are apparently approaching women at this motel and trying to rob hobbyists. Therefore this entire location should be avoided.
Desert Rat
07-07-19, 15:20
https://luxerotica.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/post/34971981/
A punter is claiming he was attacked and robbed when he went to see this escort. I am skeptical of such reports but he gave a description of the attack. Good luck.
...and that she's done this beforeThe tales that get sewn out there, and ensnarl those that believe in the weave, are tapestries of folkloric proportions.
Easy set up. Typical 2 call system. Decent hotel on East Apache Blvd.
She looked exactly like her pictures and quoted 200. I ask if she had any NO's. I should have asked if there were any up charges. Her only NO was BB, including BJ. She was hot and sweet so I went along and gave her the $200. She stripped down to panties and I got naked on the bed. She climbed on me and said Vegas has spoiled her. She gets thousands of $$$ for FS and asks if I brought more money. I knew I was screwed. I remembered a big AA guy leaving the hallway when I showed up and figured he was outside the door. The $200 was a loss and told her I wanted my money back. Surprisingly she doesn't do refunds but she would make sure I came.
She got a call from the front desk and it sounded like she was going down for something when she mentioned her BF. Then she called her BF and said to go to the front desk. I'm sure it was him, checking in and it was safe for him to leave.
She gave me a good 3 minute stripper dance and lubed me for a HJ. I got her to talk dirty and just before I came, she said I could pull down her panties. Her pussy was cute.
I'm pretty mad I was taken. I should have known such a cute spinner was too good for 200 around here. I'm trying to think of it as a lap dance that ended well. Beware.
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AzPussyLicker
10-05-19, 02:31
Seen her a few times before. This time I handed the donation and she was looking for a litter. So I offered to give her a ride to get one. While leaving she said oh I forgot to lock the door. So I continue walking to the car. She them texts me her boyfriend is here. He talks to me and starts flashing his gun to leave. She has a tattoo above her eye now. Tried to post on megapersonals but it won't allow me. Feel free to post it if you can. Also feel free to comment or post a review on escortbabylon about it. She stopped reply about paying me back.
Seen her a few times before. This time I handed the donation and she was looking for a litter. So I offered to give her a ride to get one. While leaving she said oh I forgot to lock the door. So I continue walking to the car. She them texts me her boyfriend is here. He talks to me and starts flashing his gun to leave. She has a tattoo above her eye now. Tried to post on megapersonals but it won't allow me. Feel free to post it if you can. Also feel free to comment or post a review on escortbabylon about it. She stopped reply about paying me back.You should forward the video to the hotel. Unless the hotel knows foreseable danger of a guest threatening a hobbyist, then if anyone is eventually shot he will not be able to sue the hotel based on negligence unless it was foreseable and the hotel was put on notice of dangerous conditions such as a pimp walking around with a gun.
AzPussyLicker
10-05-19, 23:53
You should forward the video to the hotel. Unless the hotel knows foreseable danger of a guest threatening a hobbyist, then if anyone is eventually shot he will not be able to sue the hotel based on negligence unless it was foreseable and the hotel was put on notice of dangerous conditions such as a pimp walking around with a gun.It was at an apartment or group apartment like college dorms. I thought of pulling my gun but told myself it wasn't worth it. Guy was clearly drunk or high. He was pretty fucked up
Desert Rat
10-19-19, 17:16
It was at an apartment or group apartment like college dorms. I thought of pulling my gun but told myself it wasn't worth it. Guy was clearly drunk or high. He was pretty fucked upI think you made the right choice. That is why you are a good firearms owner. You did not pull your weapon and open fire as a first choice. Shit can go South in tight quarters and if an errant round killed someone you are at fault. You lived to tell the tale which demonstrates you did the right thing.
I think you made the right choice. That is why you are a good firearms owner. You did not pull your weapon and open fire as a first choice. Shit can go South in tight quarters and if an errant round killed someone you are at fault. You lived to tell the tale which demonstrates you did the right thing.I concur. Is the piece of shit worth it?. The bullet is worth more than that piece of shit. Now if the asswipe pulled and pointed at you then by all means do the world a favor, better yet let him fire off an errant round first.
JoeDocks11
10-19-19, 19:53
Seen her a few times before. This time I handed the donation and she was looking for a litter. So I offered to give her a ride to get one. While leaving she said oh I forgot to lock the door. So I continue walking to the car. She them texts me her boyfriend is here. He talks to me and starts flashing his gun to leave. She has a tattoo above her eye now. Tried to post on megapersonals but it won't allow me. Feel free to post it if you can. Also feel free to comment or post a review on escortbabylon about it. She stopped reply about paying me back.Do you have a screenshot of her ad?
Went to get a massage by this provider. I googled the number and saw the posting in multiple cities so I figured I'd take the chance. I got there she texted me that she was finishing up with a client and to wait in the hotel lobby and that she would come get me. Some short black dude came down. Lead me into the hallway patted me down to "make sure I wasn't the cops". Asked for the donation and told me a room number. I guess I wasn't thinking here, I was anxious to get out of the lobby. Once I handed over the money I realized this was probably a scam. Went upstairs to see if anyone would answer the door just in case. No one did of course. At least it wasn't violent or anything.
https://phoenix.rubratings.com/151303
702XXX3798 was the number provided.
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Desert Rat
10-29-19, 16:05
Went to get a massage by this provider. I googled the number and saw the posting in multiple cities so I figured I'd take the chance. I got there she texted me that she was finishing up with a client and to wait in the hotel lobby and that she would come get me. Some short black dude came down. Lead me into the hallway patted me down to "make sure I wasn't the cops". Asked for the donation and told me a room number. I guess I wasn't thinking here, I was anxious to get out of the lobby. Once I handed over the money I realized this was probably a scam. Went upstairs to see if anyone would answer the door just in case. No one did of course. At least it wasn't violent or anything.
https://phoenix.rubratings.com/151303
702XXX3798 was the number provided.The most important thing is that you are alive to tell the tale. The posting in multiple cities was the first HUGE red flag. The second is having a man come to meet you in the lobby. You should have excused yourself and left the moment you saw him. Lastly, never give anyone money until the deed is done.
The other popular scam is the old boyfriend / pimp banging at the door before you even have sex is popular in cheap motels. If you have your money on you just dress and haul ass out the door. Please read more posts on the forum they can help you avoid most rip offs.
LuvingFully
10-29-19, 18:32
Went to get a massage by this provider. I googled the number and saw the posting in multiple cities so I figured I'd take the chance. I got there she texted me that she was finishing up with a client and to wait in the hotel lobby and that she would come get me. Some short black dude came down. Lead me into the hallway patted me down to "make sure I wasn't the cops". Asked for the donation and told me a room number. I guess I wasn't thinking here, I was anxious to get out of the lobby. Once I handed over the money I realized this was probably a scam. Went upstairs to see if anyone would answer the door just in case. No one did of course. At least it wasn't violent or anything.
https://phoenix.rubratings.com/151303
702XXX3798 was the number provided.I think the images are of 2-3 different women. One of them is Anella Miller. Tineye.com shows the images came from at least 6 different websites.
AzPussyLicker
11-09-19, 12:37
Do you have a screenshot of her ad?She tends to change her number alot but uses the same pics. She is usually around i17 and northern area and is hangs around qt near 27th and northern trying to score pills.
Desert Rat
11-22-19, 01:55
She tends to change her number alot but uses the same pics. She is usually around i17 and northern area and is hangs around qt near 27th and northern trying to score pills.I think it sucks you saw her before without trouble and then this shit goes down. So much for a known quantity.
WanderingDemon
11-22-19, 02:22
She tends to change her number alot but uses the same pics. She is usually around i17 and northern area and is hangs around qt near 27th and northern trying to score pills.
Seen her a few times before. This time I handed the donation and she was looking for a litter. So I offered to give her a ride to get one. While leaving she said oh I forgot to lock the door. So I continue walking to the car. She them texts me her boyfriend is here. He talks to me and starts flashing his gun to leave. She has a tattoo above her eye now. Tried to post on megapersonals but it won't allow me. Feel free to post it if you can. Also feel free to comment or post a review on escortbabylon about it. She stopped reply about paying me back.Dealing while providing? That's double trouble if she gets caught. What's important is that you're safe and the bf didn't pull the trigger. They could be on it too.
AzPussyLicker
11-23-19, 00:32
I think it sucks you saw her before without trouble and then this shit goes down. So much for a known quantity.I seen her about 8 times. It was hard because she kept changing her number and locations.
Dealing while providing? That's double trouble if she gets caught. What's important is that you're safe and the bf didn't pull the trigger. They could be on it too.Naw she uses not dealing.
Chester Cat
12-14-19, 04:42
Texted her and met up at her hotel. She asked for money up front. Did cop feel of her tits. Gave her money based on positive comments on listcrawler. She went into hotel lobby and then texted her boyfriend was watching me and I'd better leave. Tried leaving comment on her profile about her cash and dash business. Comment was removed and now I can't comment any longer. The site seems to want only positive comments. So beware of this scammer.
Texted her and met up at her hotel. She asked for money up front. Did cop feel of her tits. Gave her money based on positive comments on listcrawler. She went into hotel lobby and then texted her boyfriend was watching me and I'd better leave. Tried leaving comment on her profile about her cash and dash business. Comment was removed and now I can't comment any longer. The site seems to want only positive comments. So beware of this scammer.Saw her earlier this summer, paid 120 for 30 minutes since figured first time with her. She said at one point that I had 10 minutes left. Everything was covered and nothing special. She was cute and thin, only reason saw her was that she was staying close to me. But that comment deflated the mood and did not repeat. Think I wrote a review.
She shows up to my room, takes the $160, then expects you to jerk yourself off. Anything else is much more $$ She won't touch you and you can't do annything fun to her, WTF? Don't waste your time. Also much heavier in person, old pics. I lost interest quickly and she just left.
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Pics look good, but goes downhill after that.
Immediate cat urine smell when entering her mobile home. Body as advertised, but she was spinning. I ended up angry self servicing and spraying her face and tits, got up, zipped up, left. Left the donation as it wasn't worth any trouble and she was really out there the day I saw her. Would never repeat.
https://www.slixa.com/arizona/phoenix/sexy-marlene
https://escortindex.com/ad/phoenix/602-786-8465/1/2425433
Had male manager / bodyguard / head cracker outside of room that I overheard coming up the back stairs discussing something unique that I had just texted to that phone number. Politely bowed out via text and went down the road.
BoxPounder
01-12-20, 18:41
She Places ads in multiple escort websites, passing off as a provider with the correct verbiage and fake enticing pictures in the ads.
I fell asleep last night and had a nightmare. In my nightmare, I contacted the following provider. She asked the right question race, age, how long " qv, hh, hr? Donation were qv 70 roses 100 roses hh, 140 roses hr. Two call system, gives address. Call when in parking lot for room number. She acts / talks like an escort when you show up. If the donations are not bestowed readily, in the "get to know" conversation, she rubs your shoulder / back in the beginning, relaxing you to let your guard down, if you have a no up front donation rule. Once, the donation has been exchanged, she asks what would you like. THEN you find out she is not an escort but a NON SEXUAL LICENSED MASSAGE THERAPIST. She has cameras, where her company reviews so those things don't happen. She offers to massage and / or dance, which I decline. Says the activities that I was there for are illegal. (maybe some of the old timers, might remember that line from provider that worked in our areas few years back) . She has cameras, where her company reviews so those things don't happen. She offers to massage and / or dance, which I decline. Says the activities that I was there for are illegal. But if you come back for a repeat session, they can do something as " friends" which is legal, With all the talk, thought we were already friends. Yeah right. LOL. She have mastered her "craft", had to that's her source of income. I have a post donation rule. I was able to held on to for a while, but somehow she was able charm / hypnotized to give it up. Afterward, I'm thinking to myself, WTF just happen?
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/42709945/6234042709
https://escortindex.com/ad/lasvegas/623-404-2709/1/3219516
https://escortindex.com/ad/phoenix/623-404-2709/1/3116654
OK. Well it took many many years but I finally had a cash and dash. I have never had any issue providing the fee up front but I finally got burned. I got a room, we had some initial fun and she needed to go get her bag that she doesn't like to bring up initially. I let her go figuring she would not come back, not work the hassle or issues. Anyway. Just spreading the word, PM me for more info.
OK. Well it took many many years but I finally had a cash and dash. I have never had any issue providing the fee up front but I finally got burned. I got a room, we had some initial fun and she needed to go get her bag that she doesn't like to bring up initially. I let her go figuring she would not come back, not work the hassle or issues. Anyway. Just spreading the word, PM me for more info.I had the same experience with her, although I didn't give her any money. She said she had to go to her car to get her 'bag' out of there, then texted me a few minutes later saying that she needed to drop something off for her boss.
Avoided a bullet on that one.
Desert Rat
02-13-20, 16:24
OK. Well it took many many years but I finally had a cash and dash. I have never had any issue providing the fee up front but I finally got burned. I got a room, we had some initial fun and she needed to go get her bag that she doesn't like to bring up initially. I let her go figuring she would not come back, not work the hassle or issues. Anyway. Just spreading the word, PM me for more info.I have never met a SA girl in person. The closest I got was a phone call. I have been stood up several times and ghosted by those girls. I am impressed you met one in person but sad to hear you got ripped off. I am glad you lived to tell the tale.
NaughtyBoy1990
03-28-20, 14:01
Well I'm off cashapp transactions.
Saw a girl on line, looked nice, responded back quick, and nearby.
Went to her hotel, she sent me her cashapp tag and I sent her $100 for a qv.
Five minutes later, she never got it. I sent a screenshot and she goes "that's not my cashtag. I'm sorry I'm so high. " She then sends me another cash tag that is not even close to the original.
Fool me once, and all that, I left.
Here's her listcrawler: https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/48381647/.
Well I'm off cashapp transactions.
Saw a girl on line, looked nice, responded back quick, and nearby.
Went to her hotel, she sent me her cashapp tag and I sent her $100 for a qv.
Five minutes later, she never got it. I sent a screenshot and she goes "that's not my cashtag. I'm sorry I'm so high. " She then sends me another cash tag that is not even close to the original.
Fool me once, and all that, I left.
Here's her listcrawler: https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/48381647/.Complain to cashapp. They won't help you but it will put it on record that you intend to challenge the transaction so they don't close your account if you do challenge it. Then challenge the transaction with your bank. Just tell them that you didn't get the service that you paid for. The bank will most likely give you a temporary credit until they research the transaction. There is no way that a provider who scammed you is going to be able or prepared to defend the transaction. So the bank will likely make the credit permanent after a month or so. You can usually do the whole thing online with most banks.
Worst case scenario, the bank rejects your challenge and you are back where you started.
Complain to cashapp. They won't help you but it will put it on record that you intend to challenge the transaction so they don't close your account if you do challenge it. Then challenge the transaction with your bank. Just tell them that you didn't get the service that you paid for. The bank will most likely give you a temporary credit until they research the transaction. There is no way that a provider who scammed you is going to be able or prepared to defend the transaction. So the bank will likely make the credit permanent after a month or so. You can usually do the whole thing online with most banks.
Worst case scenario, the bank rejects your challenge and you are back where you started.I don't think it's a wise idea to challenge this transaction. Considering what your intent on services was. Take it as a loss and move on. You risk them closing your account and open up yourself for investigation. My advice would be to never send money via any apps prior to meeting a lady, only pay cash when you meet the lady after LE check of course.
Sorry this happened to you but you learned a lesson, luckily it wasn't a very expensive lesson. Just charge it to the game and move on.
Kester Diamond
03-29-20, 23:29
I don't think it's a wise idea to challenge this transaction. Considering what your intent on services was. Take it as a loss and move on. You risk them closing your account and open up yourself for investigation. My advice would be to never send money via any apps prior to meeting a lady, only pay cash when you meet the lady after LE check of course.
Sorry this happened to you but you learned a lesson, luckily it wasn't a very expensive lesson. Just charge it to the game and move on.We got people falling for pussy prepayment scams even now. Smh.
Dudes, don't ever prepay. If you do it and get scammed you have only yourself to blame.
Thanks for the heads up tho.
RunForGold
03-29-20, 23:31
Well I'm off cashapp transactions.
Saw a girl on line, looked nice, responded back quick, and nearby.
Went to her hotel, she sent me her cashapp tag and I sent her $100 for a qv.
Five minutes later, she never got it. I sent a screenshot and she goes "that's not my cashtag. I'm sorry I'm so high. " She then sends me another cash tag that is not even close to the original.
Fool me once, and all that, I left.
Here's her listcrawler: https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/48381647/.I did a quick Google search of the pic and it came back a 'Vicki Peach'. I think you have lost $100, but you have paid for your education and you also have reminded us all 'Never Ever Pay Up Front. ' The ladies are in it for the money ONLY! If she has the money there is no reason to see you or any of us.
NaughtyBoy1990
03-30-20, 02:09
Yeah, I tried to contact Cash App and say I sent to the wrong cashtag. They said there was nothing they could do. Figured it was a long shot.
Yeah that was my fuck up paying first. Won't do that again.
Managed to get a SW later that day and she was pretty good and she went easy on my wallet because I told her what happened.
So all fine on my end.
Yeah, I tried to contact Cash App and say I sent to the wrong cashtag. They said there was nothing they could do. Figured it was a long shot.
Yeah that was my fuck up paying first. Won't do that again.
Managed to get a SW later that day and she was pretty good and she went easy on my wallet because I told her what happened.
So all fine on my end.Now contact your bank and challenge the transaction. You don't have to be very explicit on the service that wasn't provided. Just tell the bank that it was for a massage or a meeting, and it was a scam and no service was rendered. It's more likely to get the provider in trouble than you.
I am not making this up. I have done this successfully myself. You just don't want to do it often or your bank will flag you.
I don't think it's a wise idea to challenge this transaction. Considering what your intent on services was. Take it as a loss and move on. You risk them closing your account and open up yourself for investigation. My advice would be to never send money via any apps prior to meeting a lady, only pay cash when you meet the lady after LE check of course.
Sorry this happened to you but you learned a lesson, luckily it wasn't a very expensive lesson. Just charge it to the game and move on.They are not going to close your account unless you do it multiple times. The banks don't have resources to heavily investigate this stuff.
NaughtyBoy1990
03-30-20, 17:17
Now contact your bank and challenge the transaction. You don't have to be very explicit on the service that wasn't provided. Just tell the bank that it was for a massage or a meeting, and it was a scam and no service was rendered. It's more likely to get the provider in trouble than you.
I am not making this up. I have done this successfully myself. You just don't want to do it often or your bank will flag you.It was money that had been in my cash account for a few days. Bank couldn't help here. But that's not a bad idea for next time, if I get short changed as I'm not doing cash app until I'm in the room.
How many have fallen for this?
(Not normally a poster just a lurker. But I had to laugh when I saw this).
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/49536305/
Just a "little" research.
https://datingscammer.info/en/gallery/woman/anna-bell-peaks-11378.html
This one was reported to have robbed a hobbyist of $125. I had previously called but she blocked my number luckily!
https://yolo.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/50195493/
She is also on tryst and goes by the nickname Big Tit Brit (short for Brittany, not any indication of her country of origin which is the USA).
Bareback Guy
05-27-20, 06:05
This girl is a white female, about 5'5", in decent shape. She has a big butt for her frame. Saw her by the adult store and the bar on Apache and McClintock. Her pimp or boyfriend, a black guy, was nearby. So I picked her up. We went to a nearby apartment complex. She said she had to pee, and ran off with my cash. So be careful if you see her around Apache near McClintock.
Get to the room, door was ajar, went in. So far a normal visit. She asks for the donation, takes it and goes to bathroom. Tells me to get comfortable. Comes out and is texting on her phone. She is actually pretty cute, just like pics. She starts to undress and there is a loud knock on door, she says it's her friend who needs her to give him money. I jump up and get dressed quick out of view of the door. She had gone outside the room. Next thing the door opens with a card key and instead of her it's a big black dude (who I had seen wandering around as I arrived). He asks what I'm doing in his room, I just got up and left, he didn't try to touch me, but he followed me out to my car as I hightailed it out of there. Muttering that I need to give him money and that he's going to call the cops, he was acting like he was talking to someone on phone but was probably bullshit. Luckily it wasn't that much I gave her.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/51033253/
I can't leave comment on LC, if someone wants to put a warning there, please do.
Be careful out there.
Arizona law gives quite a large (too much) leeway in protecting property. One can threaten deadly force to prevent trespassing. One can use reasonable force to remove a person who is trespassing. The whole scheme seems like it was well thought out. However, it seems that once you and him left the room he lost any right to initiate physical contact. However, he could say he was writing down your plate since he thought you had broken into his room. Of course the girl can testify in his favor and this really seems like the perfect crime.
Get to the room, door was ajar, went in. So far a normal visit. She asks for the donation, takes it and goes to bathroom. Tells me to get comfortable. Comes out and is texting on her phone. She is actually pretty cute, just like pics. She starts to undress and there is a loud knock on door, she says it's her friend who needs her to give him money. I jump up and get dressed quick out of view of the door. She had gone outside the room. Next thing the door opens with a card key and instead of her it's a big black dude (who I had seen wandering around as I arrived). He asks what I'm doing in his room, I just got up and left, he didn't try to touch me, but he followed me out to my car as I hightailed it out of there. Muttering that I need to give him money and that he's going to call the cops, he was acting like he was talking to someone on phone but was probably bullshit. Luckily it wasn't that much I gave her.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/51033253/
I can't leave comment on LC, if someone wants to put a warning there, please do.
Be careful out there.
Desert Rat
06-26-20, 20:50
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/51033253/
I can't leave comment on LC, if someone wants to put a warning there, please do.
Be careful out there.Any encounter you survive without injury is a good thing. Thank you for sharing. I am glad that you survived this experience. Stay safe.
Any encounter you survive without injury is a good thing. Thank you for sharing. I am glad that you survived this experience. Stay safe.I agree. It is a hobby. There is no way to avoid these situations perfectly. Even if it is your own room, once she goes to bathroom to text room number, it can happen. I get they want to be safe and smart too, but just be glad you survived. Only bring with you what you are ok with losing. Have a plan for the worse, like how to get home without your car. I don't like the room scene that much for these reasons. But, if you do, get a recommendation or take out from SC. Again, it is going to happen.
ForTheWin71
07-12-20, 06:12
Stay away guys. She is young and smoking hot. Shows up, takes the donation and changes into lingerie. Sits next to me on the couch and says she works on tips. The initial money was just for her to show up. She wanted a tip for more than the "show up" fee for FS. Stay away!
Anyone have any other places where I can warn guys?
https://tryst.link/escort/ronanreece
Stay away guys. She is young and smoking hot. Shows up, takes the donation and changes into lingerie. Sits next to me on the couch and says she works on tips. The initial money was just for her to show up. She wanted a tip for more than the "show up" fee for FS. Stay away!
Anyone have any other places where I can warn guys?
https://tryst.link/escort/ronanreeceLooked at her profile. No menu listed, but rate of 500/ hour.
If you gave her 500, she did not rip you off, you just plain got fucked.
Before handing her the cash, why did you not inquire what the "fee " covered?
My old saying / rule "never give a provider the $$$ until your dick is crammed up their pussy, or rammed down their throat ".
We need to control the market, make the rules, we have the cash.
JamesJ.
Stay away guys. She is young and smoking hot. Shows up, takes the donation and changes into lingerie. Sits next to me on the couch and says she works on tips. The initial money was just for her to show up. She wanted a tip for more than the "show up" fee for FS. Stay away!
Anyone have any other places where I can warn guys?
https://tryst.link/escort/ronanreeceI would say this sounds like the typical Agency scam from Vegas. I would say you should leave a review on the oldie but goodie TER.
In the news. Two teens lure a hobbyist professor and then rob him in a tent. Calculus and being able to solve differential equations doesn't protect anyone from a head injury with a hammer (reminiscent of the Rambo Last Blood scene wherein Rambo also hits a hobbyist over the head with a hammer).
The two then escape in the hobbyists car and are pulled over and then confess in Louisiana If they did not confess then likely they would still be free as the physical evidence is tied to their confession plus the victim being dead cannot press vehicle theft charges. They should have taken the Amtrak which goes from Maricopa to Louisiana and no questions asked if they had merely set the car on fire to destroy DNA evidence.
Find Me Not 12
09-27-20, 10:23
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/54475010/
Met her at an apartment in Mesa. She looked like her pics and seemed cool. My mistake, she asked for the donation, and I gave it to her. I was in the living room, she excused herself to the bathroom to get ready. Then someone started banging on the front door. At this point I knew what was coming. I didn't answer. After a few min of the banging on the door, she comes out of the bathroom. Answers the door and runs out of it. This older Mexican dude comes in yelling at me asking what I was doing there. Just said "Yep, you got me" and walked out.
Learn from my mistake please. Don't trust this one.
Feltch Monkey
09-28-20, 12:32
Met her at an apartment in Mesa. She looked like her pics and seemed cool. My mistake, she asked for the donation, and I gave it to her. I was in the living room, she excused herself to the bathroom to get ready. Then someone started banging on the front door. At this point I knew what was coming. I didn't answer. After a few min of the banging on the door, she comes out of the bathroom. Answers the door and runs out of it. This older Mexican dude comes in yelling at me asking what I was doing there. Just said "Yep, you got me" and walked out. Learn from my mistake please. Don't trust this one.I'm sorry this happened to you. I think you handled it well. A confrontation could escalated and end in physical harm or an arrest / permanent record.
I saw Janessa last January. It was a fun session except she insisted on smoking an M30 before starting. Clearly a troubled girl making a lot of bad decisions.
Bareback Guy
11-30-20, 13:47
Short, looks mixed (part black though), nice petite body, wearing glasses. Saw her on Van Buren between 40th St and 44th St. Got cash, claimed to need a payment up front before going to her room. She claimed to be staying at the Doubletree right there. Probably shouldn't have bothered. But went up with her to a room on the 5th floor. She claimed that she lost her room key. We look in my car, then she says she's going to the front desk to get another key. Well, after a few minutes of waiting in the car, drove around to the front lobby area. She was long gone by then.
I assume her name is Cayla because we went into a 7-11 for snacks and cash, and she typed in a number (480 area code) and that's the name that came up on her 7-11 rewards account. She may stay in Chandler if not in Phoenix.
AzPussyLicker
12-21-20, 07:06
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/56970654/
Tried to schedule a meet but flaked on me. Then texted me hours later asking for help. She wanted $20 for gas. She claimed she was at 35th ave and Southern stranded at a gas station but there is no gas station near 35th ave and Southern. This was the text.
I'm so upset right now! 😪128557;Someone just had me drive all the way to 35th ave and Southern from 85th ave and bell and stopped replying to me and now I have no gas to go anywhere and no money because I left my wallet at home I told them that I only had enough gas to them to pick up the money from them so I can get gas. And they leave me stranded like this like its fucking funny. They told me they were going to help me with 100 bucks because I have no money at all until I get paid from my unemployment.
Her cashapp is $mamicholla62300. I texted her from 2 different numbers and she sent the same response to both numbers at 30 minutes apart.
This girl is a white female, about 5'5", in decent shape. She has a big butt for her frame. Saw her by the adult store and the bar on Apache and McClintock. Her pimp or boyfriend, a black guy, was nearby. So I picked her up. We went to a nearby apartment complex. She said she had to pee, and ran off with my cash. So be careful if you see her around Apache near McClintock.What's the name of the bar?
What's the name of the bar?I think it is the Tempe Bar or Tavern, etc.
I think it is the Tempe Bar or Tavern, etc.Sounds like Tempe Tavern, next to the adult store / video arcade, Modern World.
Spinneraddictions website tried to install something on my computer and browser. This is probably a hacked site and the number associated is 480-XXX-9640.
It used to be a known ripoff agency charging high fees.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/56970654/
Tried to schedule a meet but flaked on me. Then texted me hours later asking for help. She wanted $20 for gas. She claimed she was at 35th ave and Southern stranded at a gas station but there is no gas station near 35th ave and Southern. This was the text.
I'm so upset right now! 😪128557;Someone just had me drive all the way to 35th ave and Southern from 85th ave and bell and stopped replying to me and now I have no gas to go anywhere and no money because I left my wallet at home I told them that I only had enough gas to them to pick up the money from them so I can get gas. And they leave me stranded like this like its fucking funny. They told me they were going to help me with 100 bucks because I have no money at all until I get paid from my unemployment.
Her cashapp is $mamicholla62300. I texted her from 2 different numbers and she sent the same response to both numbers at 30 minutes apart.I just started clicking the links to a bunch of these posts and all these links are shit. These links die in short order, here we are a month and a half from this post and the link goes to LC main page, just like a half dozen posts with links I just tried. So all the rip-off reports are useless if I can't find the girl, and just the name is useless if there are multiples, which cmon how many fucking Lexis are there?
You should always include the girls name, phone number and pictures in your posts because these links will become useless in no time. Let's not lose all this valuable data you guys are reporting. Let's do better reports going forward, for the sake of our children, and our fellow wh0 re mongers.
AzPussyLicker
02-12-21, 23:49
Her friend is not posting. Just search thiccc. Her friend name is jiffy. She was there too.
Didn't post numbers or price because members were throwing fits about it.
I just started clicking the links to a bunch of these posts and all these links are shit. These links die in short order, here we are a month and a half from this post and the link goes to LC main page, just like a half dozen posts with links I just tried. So all the rip-off reports are useless if I can't find the girl, and just the name is useless if there are multiples, which cmon how many fucking Lexis are there?
You should always include the girls name, phone number and pictures in your posts because these links will become useless in no time. Let's not lose all this valuable data you guys are reporting. Let's do better reports going forward, for the sake of our children, and our fellow wh0 re mongers.
MasterKirox
02-19-21, 10:18
Latina goes by "Jazz" off 23rd & northern. She has good reviews and I've seen her previously for vocals that went well so I went back for FS. I hit her up to meet and she didn't want to do a cardate and said she will use my donation to get a room at super 8, so I get there and give her the money. I waited 10 min and she says that she could get a room there and to meet at quality inn, so I head over there and after another 15 min nothing.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/58943190/
Desert Rat
02-20-21, 12:49
Latina goes by "Jazz" off 23rd & northern. She has good reviews and I've seen her previously for vocals that went well so I went back for FS. I hit her up to meet and she didn't want to do a cardate and said she will use my donation to get a room at super 8, so I get there and give her the money. I waited 10 min and she says that she could get a room there and to meet at quality inn, so I head over there and after another 15 min nothing.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/58943190/This is the oldest scam in the book. Yes, I fell for it once, too. Never give money until services are rendered. Most SW cannot get rooms because of no I. D. Or a credit card.
Was receiving some strange calls from a Missouri number. Then I checked on stings and found a Chandler man was arrested in Missouri for a trafficking sting. Also a Missouri number tried to see me a gun but I refused as I believe only drug cartels and agents and / or agents who are gang members should have guns and regular people must be put at risk with no viable means of self defence.
MikeHancho069
12-03-21, 06:36
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/arizona/phoenix/54475010/
Met her at an apartment in Mesa. She looked like her pics and seemed cool. My mistake, she asked for the donation, and I gave it to her. I was in the living room, she excused herself to the bathroom to get ready. Then someone started banging on the front door. At this point I knew what was coming. I didn't answer. After a few min of the banging on the door, she comes out of the bathroom. Answers the door and runs out of it. This older Mexican dude comes in yelling at me asking what I was doing there. Just said "Yep, you got me" and walked out.
Learn from my mistake please. Don't trust this one.Is this the Janessa your referring to?
Find Me Not 12
12-03-21, 10:47
Is this the Janessa your referring to?Yep, that's her.
Avoid!
33 years old from Peoria.
She will accept your date, then sends a message immediately, saying "why the fuck would I go on a date with you? ".
She is either psychotic, or suffers from GPS.
Reported her to WYP, and requested my my credits be restored.
Have not heard back from WYP, but in the past they return credits if a provider is acting like an asshole, or just playing games.
However, they never ban them.
Be safe and continue the hunt.
JamesJ.
AzPussyLicker
01-08-22, 11:25
Yep, that's her.She pulled the same thing on me months ago. Meet her at a hoise. Sent her the donation on cashapp. She told me to get comfortable. Got naked she asked if I wanted a drink. I say no so she says I'll be back in I'm going to get myself some water. Waited about 5 minutes and some old guy with a cane opens the door and tells me to get out. That she is his wife and a drug addict. Its his house and she does this shit to him all the time. I told him I'm sorry and proceed to get dressed. He says since I seem nice and not a drug addict he won't kick my ass. I would of totally destroyed him. He claims she left out the front gate trying to score. He walks me out the yard. He clearly lied. They had a 5 gallon bucket in front of the gate so the dogs wouldn't get out. You had to move it to get out and you couldn't put it back from outside the gate. I got ripped off twice that day. The other was winter. When texting she ask for $20 via cash app. I did and she asked for half another 20-30 and she would send me the address and give me a half hour. She asked for the rest of the donation which I sent and said she would let me do whatever I want for 2 hours. Didn't get the apartment number. Her name is winter. She is tatted up.
FreeWayRoss
01-08-22, 17:54
I got ripped off twice that day. The other was winter. When texting she ask for $20 via cash app. I did and she asked for half another 20-30 and she would send me the address and give me a half hour. She asked for the rest of the donation which I sent and said she would let me do whatever I want for 2 hours. Didn't get the apartment number. Her name is winter. She is tatted up.Wow, wouldn't have expected a senior member to have fallen for that scam.
She changes her name with the seasons, but the consistent thing is she will ask for a prepay deposit upfront and promise you the world. One time she even offered a buy 1, get 1 free. Yeah, sure.
I've never given her a dime, but I text her from a new number now and again to see of she's ever going to change and actually meet up.
Once she said she was at the gas station across the street from her apartment but was out of gas, needed prepay deposit to get the rest of the way home. (As if the gas station takes cashapp?) I was in the area (she had given cross streets already) and told her I'd be there in less than 10 minutes and could put gas in her car. She declined. Insisted on her prepay scam.
Wow, wouldn't have expected a senior member to have fallen for that scam.
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