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What makes them so different? They think different. Money is everything to them. They are here in our state to make money, by way of Kbars or AMPs...simple as that. So the k bar chicks expect you to give them money like they are automatically entitled to it, the AMP chicks want a minimum wage of dollar half and all is good in the world......THEIR WORLD!
A hore is a hore no matter what color you paint them or dress them or fuck them. Korean mentality is built around being "give me money".
Funny thing is...if you go drink someplace else they get mad, but they can sit with as many guys as the want to...."its okay its just my job"
Funny thing is...if you go fuck another amp chick at another amp, they get upset cuz you cheated on them, but they can fuck as many guys as they want cuz..."its okay its just my job"
Then there are stupid guys out there saying..."oh they are so sweet, treat them nice", No you are so stupid cuz they playing all you dummies who believe that they are fine women who just are making a living. They are holes and they treat all men like ATM machines.
So I say, let's retake our kingdom and reclaim the fact that men rule and holes should be more appreciative of what we give them. They all need to be tied up and fucked in the ass now and then to keep them in line.
So when you visit an amp, tell them what you want and if they no like it then take your business someplace else.
Let me know if you guys have any luck......HOLD DA LINE!
BRUDDA HINODE! WHERE ARE YOU!
To all you holes reading this. Know your place in life.
Good night and good cunting
Da BBSM
What makes them so different? They think different. Money is everything to them. They are here in our state to make money, by way of Kbars or AMPs. Simple as that. So the k bar chicks expect you to give them money like they are automatically entitled to it, the AMP chicks want a minimum wage of dollar half and all is good in the world. THEIR WORLD!
A hore is a hore no matter what color you paint them or dress them or fuck them. Korean mentality is built around being "give me money".
Funny thing is. If you go drink someplace else they get mad, but they can sit with as many guys as the want to."its okay its just my job"
Funny thing is. If you go fuck another AMP chick at another AMP, they get upset because you cheated on them, but they can fuck as many guys as they want because."its okay its just my job"
Then there are stupid guys out there saying."oh they are so sweet, treat them nice", No you are so stupid because they playing all you dummies who believe that they are fine women who just are making a living. They are holes and they treat all men like ATM machines.
So I say, let's retake our kingdom and reclaim the fact that men rule and holes should be more appreciative of what we give them. They all need to be tied up and fucked in the ass now and then to keep them in line.
So when you visit an AMP, tell them what you want and if they no like it then take your business someplace else.
Let me know if you guys have any luck. HOLD DA LINE!
BRUDDA HINODE! WHERE ARE YOU!
To all you holes reading this. Know your place in life.
Good night and good cunting
Da BBSMAmen! Un Holy YOU Da Man! Very blunt and to the point and Very true!
C'Mon fellow brothers Un Holy is right why should we kiss these hores asses, when they should be bowing to us the ones with the $$. So they should do everything to make us HAPPY! So happy that we don't mind parting with $.5 or what ever they charge. Everytime that we see them weather its at the k-bar, v-bar, their place, the AMP, or anywhere else.
YOU DA MAN Un Holy.
Brother C. G.
I partially agree that a ***** is a ***** is a *****. But there are exceptions. In my time chasing poontang, I have come across many species of prostitute. Some are like that but not all. What motivates a woman to do the things she does? What is her perception of what she is doing? What is her mental condition? As a response to the thread starter, I have met too, too many ****** who fit that descrption. All you are is a dollar sign to them. They will say and do anything to separate you from your currency. After they have extracted every cent possible, you are not relevent to them and no longer significant. You are no longer usefull. Actually, you don't really exist as a "living thing" to them, but rather as an object. Many of this species of ***** is mentally I'll, even if she appears normal in most ways. There are personality disorder symptoms that are subtle and hard to identify. Google "borderline personality disorder" and you can learn the symptoms of some of these ******. A ***** with this PD can strip you to the bone and leave you hanging to dry in an instant without losing a minute sleep, mostly due to them not even thinking they are doing anything wrong. Just like when a tiger rips open a deer and bites its head off. The tiger neither thinks "I'm doing a bad thing" or I'm doing a good thing, the tiger just does what it does without wondering about the deer or noticing the deers feelings. Same with that type of *****. She has no remorse or regret because she does not see you as a person. She just does what she does to get what she wants, money. She sees herself as a victim and anything she has to do to get what she wants is justified, in her mind. Anyone who tries to get anything from this type of *****, other than sex, is foolish. You won't get warmth from this species because they are not capable of being warm, not ause they are assholes, or stuck up, or mean. They are fucked up in the neurotransmitter system. Chemically imbalaced. You give the money, you fuckem, and you get out of dodge. Period. End of discussion. If you try to get a meaningful relationship from any of these types the you are the one who is the sucker.
But not all are like this. I do most of my mongering in the Philippines are you can read my posts in the international version of this wrbsite if you wish. In the Phils, you can meet ****** like I describe above too, but you can also meet girls who have been forced into prostitution due to socio-economic necessity. They fuck to eat. Is there always a choice? Yeah, probably. But if you are a cute filipina who is eating rice with a chicken wing for dinner and some guy offers you enough money to feed your parents and all your brothers and sisters for an hours work, its hard to "choose" purity. I've met street walkers and bar girls in the Phils who get lucky and do a guy at 6pm and call it quits for the day. They have some money and get off the street. They secretly think what they do is disgusting but they do it. They rationalize it. They dream of a normal life some day and they may or may not ever get it. Guilt and shame is hard to defeat. The Phils are also jam packed with the other kind of money chasing ****** like these Koreans, but my experience is that the more innocent ones are the majority.
Anyway, even the Korean money grubbing ****** are just trying to survive the best they can with the limited tools they have. There are plenty of cool Korean ****** in this town too. My opinion is stop complaining about it and choose your choices better. If you know what your're dealing with its your own fault for being burned.
Much respect for Unholy but many women are all about the money. I get the point though which is we are the prize and the women should value us for what we bring. That can simply be the $ or if you choose being the $ and being nice thats all up to you but we are the ones with the choices here.
As far as the borderline personality disorder stuff Dr. Slim mentioned you can run into one of those outside of the bar/amp scene and the same will happen.
Meaningful relationships come in all different shapes and sizes and I'm sure many of us have had some with these amp/bar women. At least meaningful in the sense of bringing us a lot more fun then grief that can come from a regular relationship.
Think twice. I am part Korean. I know the way they think, eat, sleep, fuck and shit. Some guys tell me Im too mean to the girls.....you are suckers! Big time Suckers!!!
Korean lesson 102
To the chicks who are reading this. Thats right! Thats what you are! Korean women were born to fuck. Some of the girls working in da bar look down on the amp girls.....HA! you holes just as bad if not more bad.
If you just admit your fuck sluts! Marry and keep your husband at home by fucking him everyway he wants and you be a good housekeeper and work a regular job and be nice you could have a good life. But no, you too good at being a no class ***** Koreans that you fuckup everything. That is reality.
Reality is seeing it with my own two eyes. Ive seen em work marry, fuck up and get divorced. Too many of my friends have been burned by Korean holes and used and abused. Some of them are Korean and some not.
Just live with them. Use them cuz they using you. After pau then dump and find new one. Cuz thats what they going do to you. I had Korean, girlfriend, Korean wife and Korean kids, I know, been there done that. I go bar and amps for fun and fucking.
To all you Korean bitches...fuck you
By the way....Vietnamese cunts are more bad! HE HE HE!!
Captin Crunch
07-12-09, 17:57
Korean women who work in the bars hate Korean men. Lots of the girls refuse to serve and sit with the Korean men customers. They are very demanding to the women. If they keep their wives at home, they wouldn't have to go out.
Think twice. I am part Korean. I know the way they think, eat, sleep, fuck and shit. Some guys tell me Im too mean to the girls.....you are suckers! Big time Suckers!!!
Korean lesson 102
To the chicks who are reading this. Thats right! Thats what you are! Korean women were born to fuck. Some of the girls working in da bar look down on the amp girls.....HA! you holes just as bad if not more bad.
If you just admit your fuck sluts! Marry and keep your husband at home by fucking him everyway he wants and you be a good housekeeper and work a regular job and be nice you could have a good life. But no, you too good at being a no class ***** Koreans that you fuckup everything. That is reality.
Reality is seeing it with my own two eyes. Ive seen em work marry, fuck up and get divorced. Too many of my friends have been burned by Korean holes and used and abused. Some of them are Korean and some not.
Just live with them. Use them cuz they using you. After pau then dump and find new one. Cuz thats what they going do to you. I had Korean, girlfriend, Korean wife and Korean kids, I know, been there done that. I go bar and amps for fun and fucking.
To all you Korean bitches...fuck you
By the way....Vietnamese cunts are more bad! HE HE HE!!
LOL as bad as this post may sound to some of you, it is pretty hilarious to me, mainly because I can relate, at least to some of this "real life" shit.
Koreans... blows my mind how their reality of what life is all about seems totally from some other planet!
Not a misogynist myself. I find that by being as sweet as possible to the girls, they eat out of your hand and once they feel comfortable, will offer up more of their goods than normal. Sometimes it doesn't work (as with the queen of ****** "Ivy"), but for the most part, it is my secret weapon.
Let me tell you, I have a long history with Lucky/Penny. We started off ROUGH. I could've really been an asshole to her because of her attitude in the beginning. It took my fourth time trying to see her to get service. When I finally did, I melted her heart... and let me tell you, she melted mine right back! She went from being fairly guarded to allowing anything! All because I chose to be sweet to a fault with her...
Anyway, to whatever providers read this from the AMPs, just know not all of us feel this way towards you. I certainly wouldn't want them to expect us all to come in there (AMPs or KBs) with this attitude. It could have the deck stacked against us...
Just an alternative opinion.
I respect your opinion on this matter bro. I been down the road that many of you have not even seen. I am part of the local Korean community even though I sometimes hate it and them. ...why???? cuz they stupid, they think like they back in Korea and this is not Korea this is America, you fucken stupid jackass Yobo's.
Oh yeah brother Hypo,,, the Ivy you and I know is one of a kind. Even the other amp chicks no like her cuz she is too big of a **** hore. That is no kid, you should have seen some of the outfits she was wearing before she left, she display pussy and tits to get the incoming customer to eyes on her only. and you know the rest of what she does. But you gotta admit, bbfscip and bbbjcim with her was pretty good. Now if I like that I go to see my ATFs to make jr happy.
I dont mean to put down the good hardworking korean chicks, but even then most korean business women are former bar and amp hores.
I know Korean men are hated by most bar girls cuz they always grumble about the tab and they want discount and they make big noise. They stupid too. The k girls no like them cuz they try to reverse fuck the girls at their own game. LOL!!!
Koreans were built for banging.
BBSM
All this goes to show is that the providers are as varied as the mongers themselves.
I preferre Hypo's method. Sure they're 'in it for the money' but then again, so are we when we go to work. Those of us in the service industry know the importance to good customer service and that we have to maintain quality service even when the customer is an asshole.
Many times I've heard and complained about asshole customers and the service given to them tends to be barely passable, and this is on purpose! However, for those customers that we like, we go the extra mile for them, and again, this is on purpose. Why keep asshole customers when we can cultivate a good working relationship with those who are NOT assholes.
With that in mind, I try to be polite, nice and even give the providers a BFE. It doesn't cost extra (unless you buy them gifts) but when you show you do care about them, the rewards are sweet.
So Brother Un Holy. Go ahead. Treat them like working girls, that makes guys like Hypo and me stand out even more.
I respect your opinion on this matter bro. I been down the road that many of you have not even seen. I am part of the local Korean community even though I sometimes hate it and them. ...why???? cuz they stupid, they think like they back in Korea and this is not Korea this is America, you fucken stupid jackass Yobo's.
Oh yeah brother Hypo,,, the Ivy you and I know is one of a kind. Even the other amp chicks no like her cuz she is too big of a **** hore. That is no kid, you should have seen some of the outfits she was wearing before she left, she display pussy and tits to get the incoming customer to eyes on her only. and you know the rest of what she does. But you gotta admit, bbfscip and bbbjcim with her was pretty good. Now if I like that I go to see my ATFs to make jr happy.
I dont mean to put down the good hardworking korean chicks, but even then most korean business women are former bar and amp hores.
I know Korean men are hated by most bar girls cuz they always grumble about the tab and they want discount and they make big noise. They stupid too. The k girls no like them cuz they try to reverse fuck the girls at their own game. LOL!!!
Koreans were built for banging.
BBSMBra Da,
You two fucker are funny, creak me up, made my day, glad you two enjoying life. For Penny I pound the shit out of her, and she wanted more, from the first time on, may be because my jr is only 3", but some chicks call me the popolo kid and I asian houle. I get her cel number, but she no call back.
Keep the good fun going.
Mahalo
I wouldn't say I agree with some people's opinions on this Hawaii forum, but I gotta wonder - are some of you guys in this hobby to "make sweet love" and/or "fall in love"? I guess that can happen, but it's kinda killer to think that you can have some kind of "love" by paying for it. If one gives a provider $$ for some time alone, and then some kind of emotions are built up during that time, it's just my opinion, but that wouldn't be love. Dudes, even if one were to meet up with a provider in a normal setting, the opportunity for "love" with that girl would probably be stacked against you, simply due to her life experiences, no?
It's like if you adopted a pitbull from the humane society, who had been beaten it's whole life - would you really be surprised if and when it bit your child? Hey if I'm way off then let me know. But, in general, I would say you're kidding yourself if you are looking for love or anything like it with these chicks. That's why use the um and lose um concept is a great way to avoid emotional disasters like that too.
I wouldn't say I agree with some people's opinions on this Hawaii forum, but I gotta wonder - are some of you guys in this hobby to "make sweet love" and/or "fall in love"?
I never said anything like that. And "making love" is far from what I wanna do. Lemme tell you, I FUCK as HARD as anyone... I'm just saying you catch a LOT more flies with honey! Plus, I fuck 'em, then pay 'em... I ain't got no reason to be mad at them or hate them if we both live up to our deal... But, putting their pleasure first always lead to my pleasure being first rate!
As for K/VBs, well, you have to expect to shoot and miss sometime, even if you pay... That's the nature of those places.
I never said anything like that. And "making love" is far from what I wanna do. Lemme tell you, I FUCK as HARD as anyone... I'm just saying you catch a LOT more flies with honey! Plus, I fuck 'em, then pay 'em... I ain't got no reason to be mad at them or hate them if we both live up to our deal... But, putting their pleasure first always lead to my pleasure being first rate!
As for K/VBs, well, you have to expect to shoot and miss sometime, even if you pay... That's the nature of those places.
I apologize if you misunderstood me. My reference to "making love" was not meant for you, Hypo. I respect your approach, and can see the merits of it, and I even do that from time to time. However, I just don't think that hobbying with lovey dovey emotions is a good idea. Ever. EOM.
I apologize if you misunderstood me. My reference to "making love" was not meant for you, Hypo. I respect your approach, and can see the merits of it, and I even do that from time to time. However, I just don't think that hobbying with lovey dovey emotions is a good idea. Ever. EOM.
Ah, OK. And yeah, looking for love in the Honolulu sex industry is a lose/lose situation.
Other than that, go AMP. Be forthright in what you want and the level of service you desire. $$ is a lot of money. I don't believe in being a d*%k to the girls, but I don't believe in kisssing their a$$ either. As the great Kapalua recommended, never tip the girl more than the 150...reward good service with repeat visits. If you get bad service, then let the chick know why you ain't coming back to see her. Let us know here or on the other website who to avoid and who to go see. Don't be a snitch-ass rat and talk about this or any other similar forum to any bar-girls or AMP-girls. Remember the motto that helped the Democratic party pick the winning presidential canditate: "Bros before h*s"<<<but really, you should have learned that back in Intermediate school.I am in agreement. AMPs are the way to a happy body and a clear mind, sans the drama. The girls here don't need to do the sales pitch that some other working girls have to do, and we don't have to play our parts in that chase to get what we want, because it's just business as usual (and we all win when business is business). No mind games, no jealousy, and no manipulation.
All this goes to show is that the providers are as varied as the mongers themselves.
I preferre Hypo's method. Sure they're 'in it for the money' but then again, so are we when we go to work. Those of us in the service industry know the importance to good customer service and that we have to maintain quality service even when the customer is an asshole.
Many times I've heard and complained about asshole customers and the service given to them tends to be barely passable, and this is on purpose! However, for those customers that we like, we go the extra mile for them, and again, this is on purpose. Why keep asshole customers when we can cultivate a good working relationship with those who are NOT assholes.
With that in mind, I try to be polite, nice and even give the providers a BFE. It doesn't cost extra (unless you buy them gifts) but when you show you do care about them, the rewards are sweet.
So Brother Un Holy. Go ahead. Treat them like working girls, that makes guys like Hypo and me stand out even more.Add me to that list. I always try to give my girls a great time because they'll have nothing to fear the next time I come around, and only more "loving" (in the loosest, most absolutely physical sense of the word) will be available for the taking. Emotional attachment isn't required in treating the working girls like the amazingly hot women they are, and it's always better when kept simple and consistent. I don't think we need to go out of our ways to show them exactly how emotionally detached we are by treating them like "that," but to each his own.
I'm in customer service, too, and my job isn't anything spectacular. I can tell you for a fact that my customers who treat me well on a daily basis get the world in return. My service is more directed, speedy (not something I'd really want from an AMP, though), precise, and consistent. It's not that I owe them anything; it's that I have a natural desire to make their days better because they sure as hell are are trying to do the same for me. Ceasing that automatic tendency to resist others allows you to fit into a better shape to match up with them, without forgoing the things that you need out of the transaction.
The ones that give me a hard time and shit on me at work? They either wonder why I seem less outgoing around them, or why no one wants to help them, or they simply don't care. In fact, I'm sure they don't care.
I don't perceive a benefit from that kind of deal, but that's just my take.
Z
Maybe not even "traitor" but a ***** posing as one of us guys.
Hypo....do you feel some strange vibes????
This kind of reminds me of dudes who come from the mainland, and who have never seen or been in the ocean before. Right away they buy a board and go out at Kaiser Bowls or Ala Mo's on a south swell day. They end up getting punished by the waves, dragged over the reef, verbally humiliated by hot local surfer chicks, slapped in the head for dropping in, and beat up for dinging somebody's board.
Most end up becoming bitter and judgmental whiners, unable to understand that their misfortune was due to their own lack of knowledge and common sense. A remaining few learn from their mistakes, and eventually develop the skills to handle the ocean and are integrated in the social strata--they become accepted for paying their dues.
If you go into these bars with the mentality of a victim, chances are you will get burned. If you let that experience cloud your attitude with judgement and hate, you loose because that's some f**ked up baggage to have to carry. On the other hand, if you learn how a basically decent FOB korean girl working in these bars, can become transformed into the worst kind of money grubbing ROB b**ch, then that is a building block for taking control of your experience. Looking at the sad dead end existence in which they find themselves, its pretty amazing that not all K-girls turn into ho's and ROBs.
So whats the deal? You been out of action for sometime and now all of a sudden, BAM! back on line.
About K bars and AMPs.
I will call the show the "Kim chee Chase"
I will ask many of the ones in Camelot if they would like to star in the show and see what happens.
Maybe if I am lucky, Hypo Luxa will be the man hore star of the show!
What do you think Hypo?
and Hinode can be his trusty sidekick.
They will travel to each bar and amp and give a blow by blow account of who they fucked, how they fucked and how they got fucked.
Bobby Gunn
07-15-09, 13:04
About K bars and AMPs.
I will call the show the "Kim chee Chase"
I will ask many of the ones in Camelot if they would like to star in the show and see what happens.
Maybe if I am lucky, Hypo Luxa will be the man hore star of the show!
What do you think Hypo?
and Hinode can be his trusty sidekick.
They will travel to each bar and amp and give a blow by blow account of who they fucked, how they fucked and how they got fucked.Why do Koreans have square heads?
About K bars and AMPs.
I will call the show the "Kim chee Chase"
I will ask many of the ones in Camelot if they would like to star in the show and see what happens.
Maybe if I am lucky, Hypo Luxa will be the man hore star of the show!
What do you think Hypo?
and Hinode can be his trusty sidekick.
They will travel to each bar and amp and give a blow by blow account of who they fucked, how they fucked and how they got fucked.
Hahaha! That would be fun... but I am an admitted novice in the K/VBs and SBs as far as action goes. I've gotten lucky a dozen or so times, but definitely keep me in mind for the AMP version of the show, LOL!
I will go along with it, why do they have square heads?
Bobby Gunn
07-16-09, 05:42
I will go along with it, why do they have square heads?
There's no punch line. Just wondering why korean heads are square shaped.
Iliketowatch
07-16-09, 21:25
There's no punch line. Just wondering why korean heads are square shaped.
The Koreans call this the spam musubi head. Why I don't know, Musubi is a local japanese thing. Head to big for the body. I think it's to try and hold in their hot temper. The wall of the skull needed to be thicker to hold in the steam. Thus it took up much needed space for the brain. Anyway, this square head makes for them not aging very well. Looking at pictures of all my korean gf's mom's pictures from young to old, they don't age very well. So what you get now is not what you're gonna get later.
Iliketowatch
07-16-09, 22:41
I have to give the korean credit for knowing how to apply makeup. They must teach this in school because they do a really go job in making up their faces. They turn from plain rice balls to a luxurious musubi with expensive seaweed. I've know many of kb girl that I never would recognize if they didn't 1st say hi to me on the street during the day. They are the kings (queens) of makeup. Maybe this should tell us something. They're good at covering up all the bad things about them.
Pineapple Kid
07-16-09, 22:46
I have to give the korean credit for knowing how to apply makeup. They must teach this in school because they do a really go job in making up their faces. They turn from plain rice balls to a luxurious musubi with expensive seaweed. I've know many of kb girl that I never would recognize if they didn't 1st say hi to me on the street during the day. They are the kings (queens) of makeup. Maybe this should tell us something. They're good at covering up all the bad things about them.Yeah, I'm sure there's a LOT of bad things about them that they're experts at covering up!!!
Square heads, flat faces, makeup, all that will be in there.
Anybody seen Yujin from Camelot lately working in T time? She is getting fat and ugly. But still a ****.
They got flat heads cuz they can stack them more betta in da trains. Most of the women got flat backs on the back of their heads from lying down and fucking all the time.
No matter, nice body good tits, tight twat, their attitude still sucks big time. If any of you bar sluts are reading this,...fuck you! Look up the word "****" in the dictionary and it says "korean bar girl". HAAAA!
Look up "**** ****" and you will find yujin's picture. Also Ivy's He He He!!!!
Look up "vietnamese ****" (V.C.)watering hole and you will see Secret and Sandy and Jens.
Look up "chinese hore house" and you will see Evergreen.
Look up "stupid horney local guy" just look in the mirror!!!! HAAAA!!!
Have a nice day!
da **** is Hunt without an H and add a C. also HOOOOOOORE
The study of the perplexing Korean mind is called Kor-logic or kor-reasoning. When you are in the room and the girl adds a few addl drinks to your tab is called kor-mathematics. When you hear a barmaid butcher the English language by adding two "e"s to everything or making singular objects plural, this is kor-englishee.
Thats right bro! Kor logic is simple they measure how good a man you are by how much money you spend on them. "Oh honey you love me sooooo muchee you spend $10k for my purse, I love you long long time" ...."please get chargee card for me"
The definition of Kor logic is bend over and let me fuck you in the ass.
The study of the perplexing Korean mind is called Kor-logic or kor-reasoning. When you are in the room and the girl adds a few addl drinks to your tab is called kor-mathematics. When you hear a barmaid butcher the English language by adding two "e"s to everything or making singular objects plural, this is kor-englishee.
How fortunate they can practice all of the above mention on Koreamoku. But honestly it is going to be more Koreamoku than we think. See Kapalua's report #1563 in the Massage Parlor reports.
They are the kings (queens) of makeup. Maybe this should tell us something. They're good at covering up all the bad things about them.
... and plastic surgery. Nose, butt, breast, whatever it is the norm to fix up whatever whenever for these girls.
I have to give the korean credit for knowing how to apply makeup. They must teach this in school because they do a really go job in making up their faces. They turn from plain rice balls to a luxurious musubi with expensive seaweed. I've know many of kb girl that I never would recognize if they didn't 1st say hi to me on the street during the day. They are the kings (queens) of makeup. Maybe this should tell us something. They're good at covering up all the bad things about them.Yes, they do pack on the make up and when it's off, some are unrecognizable too the point where it looks like someone gave them couple false cracks. Takes too long to put on the mask, that's why they wear their caps and shades when they frequent ala moana, palama or when they eat at korean restaurants with their barfriends or customers. Question: So what do you do if one of these girls become your girlfriend or f-buddy? Answer: Just tolerate it and get what you can because things will end soon enough.
Have to go lunchee with customer have to drink and have to talk to many many men and listen to story. Oh you poor korean bitches! You crack me up!
"So stressfull working bar".....WTF!?!?! you stupid twats! you dont even know how good you got it. You spend your time tricking men into thinking that you love them so they will give you money. You are prostitutes just like the amp chicks only in a different way. None the less you are still cuunnts.
And some of the guys are stupid enough to back you chicks up if you are criticized by guys like me. SUCKERS!!!!
DUHH?!?!
I say fuckem all and deport them all back to Korea when we finish with them, just the way they treat us like one piece of used toilet paper.
WAKE UP GUYS! STICK TOGETHER ON THIS ONE WITH ME!
We going make T-shirts "Bars-R-Us" or "I survived da Kim chee attack!"
Virtua Stick
07-22-09, 11:32
Think twice. I am part Korean. I know the way they think, eat, sleep, fuck and shit. Some guys tell me Im too mean to the girls.....you are suckers! Big time Suckers!!!
Korean lesson 102
To the chicks who are reading this. Thats right! Thats what you are! Korean women were born to fuck. Some of the girls working in da bar look down on the amp girls.....HA! you holes just as bad if not more bad.
If you just admit your fuck sluts! Marry and keep your husband at home by fucking him everyway he wants and you be a good housekeeper and work a regular job and be nice you could have a good life. But no, you too good at being a no class ***** Koreans that you fuckup everything. That is reality.
Reality is seeing it with my own two eyes. Ive seen em work marry, fuck up and get divorced. Too many of my friends have been burned by Korean holes and used and abused. Some of them are Korean and some not.
Just live with them. Use them cuz they using you. After pau then dump and find new one. Cuz thats what they going do to you. I had Korean, girlfriend, Korean wife and Korean kids, I know, been there done that. I go bar and amps for fun and fucking.
To all you Korean bitches...fuck you
By the way....Vietnamese cunts are more bad! HE HE HE!!
Friend UnHoly,
I am sorry to hear that Korean women seem to have scarred you deeply. I am not commenting on your remarks regarding AMP/KB girls as I think they are sort of a different breed. However, I just want to post that borthers here should not generalize that all Korean women are the same. Yeah, UH, you're half-Korean and so am I. There are plenty of Koreans that I know who are hard working and earn an honest living. I find Hawaii a bit odd (yeah, I used to work for >10 years on the Mainland) that many might see Koreans in this light as they are not viewed this way in any of the states I lived in (East, Midwest and West Coast).
I'm not going to change your opinions as it sounds like you're fairly bitter towards Koreans, but if you are going to be critical towards these girls, please do not show hate towards Koreans in general. LOL. Most of my girlfriends have been Korean and not a one was like how you are describing them. Actually, none had a "square head" or body types that you describe which I also find as offensive generalizations. They were also very warm, caring people who helped me out at many points in my life. LOL. I'm the jerk, but I won't get into that. My materialistic GFs have been haole, Chinese and American Indian, but that's just me. I know there are plenty of women out there who are haole, Chinese or Indian who are not like that. I just heppened to be unlucky. LOL. However I can generalize what you say regarding the $ tendencies to all those who are working in the same profession whether it is here, Thailand, or Brazil.
I can go into the details regarding the slippery slope of hate dissemination combined with a crowd mentality but this is neither the forum nor the format for this. Again, if you want to comment on the working girls, fine, but please do not comment on stereotyping Koreans in general.
No flames, please. I've said my piece. Best of luck to all of you, gentlemen.
VS
Friend UnHoly,
I am sorry to hear that Korean women seem to have scarred you deeply. I am not commenting on your remarks regarding AMP/KB girls as I think they are sort of a different breed. However, I just want to post that borthers here should not generalize that all Korean women are the same. Yeah, UH, you're half-Korean and so am I. There are plenty of Koreans that I know who are hard working and earn an honest living. I find Hawaii a bit odd (yeah, I used to work for 10 years on the Mainland) that many might see Koreans in this light as they are not viewed this way in any of the states I lived in (East, Midwest and West Coast).
I'm not going to change your opinions as it sounds like you're fairly bitter towards Koreans, but if you are going to be critical towards these girls, please do not show hate towards Koreans in general. LOL. Most of my girlfriends have been Korean and not a one was like how you are describing them. Actually, none had a "square head" or body types that you describe which I also find as offensive generalizations. They were also very warm, caring people who helped me out at many points in my life. LOL. I'm the jerk, but I won't get into that. My materialistic GFs have been haole, Chinese and American Indian, but that's just me. I know there are plenty of women out there who are haole, Chinese or Indian who are not like that. I just heppened to be unlucky. LOL. However I can generalize what you say regarding the $ tendencies to all those who are working in the same profession whether it is here, Thailand, or Brazil.
I can go into the details regarding the slippery slope of hate dissemination combined with a crowd mentality but this is neither the forum nor the format for this. Again, if you want to comment on the working girls, fine, but please do not comment on stereotyping Koreans in general.
No flames, please. I've said my piece. Best of luck to all of you, gentlemen.
VSVS, not a flame, but perhaps a clarification, at least from my perspective.
Other than the square head comment, what UH says about korean bar hos tesses are true. They are all ******. Plain and simple.
Yes, there are honest, hard working Koreans, most are. But the bar attracts those with guile, those without consciences, those with low moral or ethical standards, and those who will chews them up and spits them out. That's why as mongers, we have to go into the game with guile, without consciences, lower our moral/ethical standards, and chews them up and spits them out too.
But the bottom line is that koreans working in bars are ****** and all the stuff UH said--only he took it too far to include all koreans. Koreans got the bad reputation here because of the hostess bar scene. If the mainland had them, koreans would have a negative image there as well.
Virtua Stick
07-23-09, 11:21
VS, not a flame, but perhaps a clarification, at least from my perspective.
Other than the square head comment, what UH says about korean bar hos tesses are true. They are all ******. Plain and simple.
Yes, there are honest, hard working Koreans, most are. But the bar attracts those with guile, those without consciences, those with low moral or ethical standards, and those who will chews them up and spits them out. That's why as mongers, we have to go into the game with guile, without consciences, lower our moral/ethical standards, and chews them up and spits them out too.
But the bottom line is that koreans working in bars are ****** and all the stuff UH said--only he took it too far to include all koreans. Koreans got the bad reputation here because of the hostess bar scene. If the mainland had them, koreans would have a negative image there as well.
Thanks for your clarification. However, my comments were targeted more towards the generalization of Koreans, not the comments for those working the in bars or the AMPs. Women who work in the "bars" in Korea do not have a great rep there either. Although there might be some honest and genuine people there, most are also not looked upon favorably. I was just trying to point out that opinions of this smaller number but higher profile sect of people should not spill over to all Koreans.
It is disappointing to hear this about Koreans to say the least as I, personally, am proud to say that I have a Korean heritage. My parents moved around when I was a kid and I grew up in neighborhoods that were mostly black, Latino, Jewish, or mixed-European as well as more ethnically diverse neighborhoods and it was in Hawaii that I found more of a sense of belonging. Let me tell you, if you look different or are of a different nationality, there is a lot of prejudice and hate in this country especially when you're growing up. Maybe I am still sensitized when I hear or read that type of stuff. One can play the game when it comes to the bars but I hope they realize this applies only to that scene and not to people in general.
Peace friends,
VS
It is disappointing to hear this about Koreans to say the least as I, personally, am proud to say that I have a Korean heritage.
Korean pride. hmmm I'll just say that this often heard phrase is just not that appealing, since it doesn't do anything unless you're part of the Korean pride thing. Just my 2 cents!
Thanks for your clarification. However, my comments were targeted more towards the generalization of Koreans, not the comments for those working the in bars or the AMPs. Women who work in the "bars" in Korea do not have a great rep there either. Although there might be some honest and genuine people there, most are also not looked upon favorably. I was just trying to point out that opinions of this smaller number but higher profile sect of people should not spill over to all Koreans.
It is disappointing to hear this about Koreans to say the least as I, personally, am proud to say that I have a Korean heritage. My parents moved around when I was a kid and I grew up in neighborhoods that were mostly black, Latino, Jewish, or mixed-European as well as more ethnically diverse neighborhoods and it was in Hawaii that I found more of a sense of belonging. Let me tell you, if you look different or are of a different nationality, there is a lot of prejudice and hate in this country especially when you're growing up. Maybe I am still sensitized when I hear or read that type of stuff. One can play the game when it comes to the bars but I hope they realize this applies only to that scene and not to people in general.
Peace friends,
VS98% of Koreans in Hawaii are honest, hard working people. It's just that 2% who bring the whole group down. It 's unfortunate, but that's reality. I treat people who deserve it with respect; bg's, by their actions, do not deserve respect--that's why I play their game with guile, without a conscience, with lower moral and ethical standards, in a manipulative manner to get what I want. They are ******, we are johns, let's not get carried away with giving them gifts or treating them with respect. They get our cash, they deserve nothing else.
Out
My take based on obervations.
For the most part the bar girls are loyal only to themselves. Lies, stories, deception are all part of the job. They must do it to survive, they must turn off their hearts and feelings to cope with work. But, when they do like/love someone then it’s like a switch, they are loyal to that person. I think it’s in the culture for the women to care for and cater to the men and when their hearts are in it they do. If you’re one of the lucky few then you’ll see this, unfortunately like most schmucks out there us customers will never be more then just a customer. It’s all a game they lie to us we lie to them, they know it we know it, its all good. Seeing them outside of the bar in their own home life you can really see how caring they are, once they are out of the business the true personality comes to the surface. Don’t hate the player hate the game.
Good title mind of a working Korean girl, it's just that, just working girls not all koreans are like this.
You hit it right on da head bro! Hey all you guys! what is da title of this thread??!!??!! Dont you get it! I not putting down all Koreans, just the slime shits that rip off guys! I know I sound like I hate them all, but cannot, some are sistas, cousins, brothers, aunties, uncles, you get da shit that I mean.
I'm talking fast ass korean sluts that fuck us for money and no care how much shit they take from us guys.
I am Korean! No fuck with what you think you know. I know what I know. I got fucked in da ass by korean chicks, but thats okay cuz, I fuck em back.
they that work bars and amps have fucked up minds and even if they seem sweet, they are more rotten than donkey shit.
Candy Addict
07-24-09, 05:41
FWIW (and that's probably not much!) I've never interpreted Brother Un Holy's posts in this thread to apply to all Koreans, but only to the bargirls and to some extent, the AMP girls. The overwhelming majority of bargirls are exactly as Brother UH describes them. That's not to say there aren't a few exceptions here and there, but they're rare. Actually, Brother UH's comments are generally true of most prostitutes of every type and every ethnicity. I should know - I think I've banged at least one of each in my 30 years in this hobby! Anyway, I've certainly known enough Koreans, here and on the mainland, to know that most are decent, friendly, hard-working people.
With all due respect, perhaps those of you who are Korean or part-Korean are being slightly over-sensitive to Un Holy's comments? That's entirely understandable, but in this case, I think you should cut Brother UH some slack. Of course, that's easy for me, a middle-aged haole who (unfortunately!) grew up on the east coast of the mainland, to say!
Just my $0.02 worth. But what the hell do I know? I'm just a dumbhaole! :D
CA
My take based on obervations.
For the most part the bar girls are loyal only to themselves. Lies, stories, deception are all part of the job. They must do it to survive, they must turn off their hearts and feelings to cope with work. But, when they do like/love someone then it’s like a switch, they are loyal to that person. I think it’s in the culture for the women to care for and cater to the men and when their hearts are in it they do. If you’re one of the lucky few then you’ll see this, unfortunately like most schmucks out there us customers will never be more then just a customer. It’s all a game they lie to us we lie to them, they know it we know it, its all good. Seeing them outside of the bar in their own home life you can really see how caring they are, once they are out of the business the true personality comes to the surface. Don’t hate the player hate the game.
Good title mind of a working Korean girl, it's just that, just working girls not all koreans are like this.Sorry, but you can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl. After you break up with them (who the fuck wants to be long term with a self-centered, materalistic hole), they're right back in the game. Yeah, it's their way to earn a living, but it takes a "special" person to take the easy way out and be a *****.
Only the 'working' k-girls? What about the sweet old ladies who work at the restaurant and pad the bill so there's kickbacks all around? Well, she's a sweetheart to everyone who gets the kickbacks.
What about the tour group leaders that lead the tourists from the motherland to 'certain businesses with good deal', and then get a little somethin somethin (aka kickbacks)? Well, they are just 'smart' business men and women, and they should be congratulated for their ability to 'sell'.
This is just from personal observations, but it really seems that Korean culture operates from a 'if you're in the circle of trust, you're gonna get the good piece of meat at dinner, the extra nice treatment, the nice smiles and compliments, the good service, etc.'
I get it, though. Korean people are the nicest people ever. IF you're in the circle(whether it be friends, family, friends of friends, or also Mr. Lots of Money). Face it, once one falls out of that circle, it's game on! They don't discriminate ripping off their own people, the very ones they were just backing up a minute ago in an argument with their non-Korean friend about how 98% of Koreans are really, really good people! ... really!
This is not saying that this way of a culture is bad or good, but I am still learning to understand this way of thinking so I'm not the one that's fleeced! Sure I've been taken, just like many of you have!! No more!!!
Good one. You hit it on da nail too! What you said is all true.
If you no smell like kim chee then you are out of the circle. HAAAA!!
But guys, lets all admit, its hard to beat korean pussy. I had Japanese, Chinese, Haole, black,flip, etc... and they all got their ways and days. But Korean chicks got the tightest hole and firm body and soft skin. they know how to use it. Japanese chicks are the most horney, chinese pussy stink and they dont know how to fuck very well. Haole just like cum themselves and they no care about making you cum. Black holes are black holes, they stink! Filipino not so bad just after they have kids, they get real loose. They close to Korean.
Haole just like cum themselves and they no care about making you cum.Maybe just lucky, but I've had good experiences w/haole providers. Nikki Avalon is one of my ATFs. And there was this one girl @Chicken Ranch many years ago, damn, she was also one of the best...lots of kissing and had the softest, smoothest-feeling ass, like a silk pillow.
Cash For Me
07-24-09, 19:03
All you guys need to remember that almost all of the KB girls don't have a College let alone some don't even have a High School Education.
They are very good at what they do and for the most part if we are smart or smarter than them you can pretty much get anything you want from them. You have to give them some credit for being as good as what they do as we all know they are very fast learners. Years ago most of the KB girls were former prostitutes that came to the USA By marrying military servicemen this has changed somewhat but still most of the girls now are here cause they can't make it in Korea and they are all told by their families friends etc how easy it is to make $$ in Hawaii in the KBars with little or no education. This is one of the things that I stress with most KB owners who complain about their girls. I always tell them that if these girls were educated would they be here? I don't think so! There are also many Korean girls that work in regular jobs and many with college degrees working in professional fields as well. I married a Korean Bar girl who quit and never went back even though she made big $$ doing it. I sent her to school and she graduated and now works in a professional office. Its ok for us to do or say whatever we want to but remember not everyone is in the same boat. Just be smart when you enter a KB and if you really want to, entice her with your kindness and sincerity it works for me and always has for the past 20 + years.
Member #1062
07-24-09, 23:47
So very true. And they certainly know how to use it.
Japanese girls can be horny but not that much fun in bed.
Chinese can f*ck but are usually better at cooking.
Filipinas are OK but can become high maintenance very quickly.
Thai girls are kind of hit and miss.
When it comes to getting laid, Korean working girls are the best.
If you're horny, just go to an AMP, pay'em to f*ck and then f*ck off.
All you guys need to remember that almost all of the KB girls don't have a College let alone some don't even have a High School Education.
They are very good at what they do and for the most part if we are smart or smarter than them you can pretty much get anything you want from them. You have to give them some credit for being as good as what they do as we all know they are very fast learners. Years ago most of the KB girls were former prostitutes that came to the USA By marrying military servicemen this has changed somewhat but still most of the girls now are here cause they can't make it in Korea and they are all told by their families friends etc how easy it is to make $$ in Hawaii in the KBars with little or no education. This is one of the things that I stress with most KB owners who complain about their girls. I always tell them that if these girls were educated would they be here? I don't think so! There are also many Korean girls that work in regular jobs and many with college degrees working in professional fields as well. I married a Korean Bar girl who quit and never went back even though she made big $$ doing it. I sent her to school and she graduated and now works in a professional office. Its ok for us to do or say whatever we want to but remember not everyone is in the same boat. Just be smart when you enter a KB and if you really want to, entice her with your kindness and sincerity it works for me and always has for the past 20 + years.I have no idea how long you have been married. But I can guarantee you that when she eventually gets pissed off enough at you (for some tiny reason), as all wives eventually do, she'll leave you and go back to working in a KB or AMP. She may only do it with the intention of working part time or for a short period, but she knows that by so doing so she can earn enough to buy her independence. Independence from you and any of the crap she thinks she has to put up with from you.
Any ex-working girl will eventually go back to what she knows works well and pays well. Sorry to bust your bubble. But a marriage to a working girl is bound to be flawed from the get go.
LexLuther
Virtua Stick
07-25-09, 06:32
I have no idea how long you have been married. But I can guarantee you that when she eventually gets pissed off enough at you (for some tiny reason), as all wives eventually do, she'll leave you and go back to working in a KB or AMP. She may only do it with the intention of working part time or for a short period, but she knows that by so doing so she can earn enough to buy her independence. Independence from you and any of the crap she thinks she has to put up with from you.
Any ex-working girl will eventually go back to what she knows works well and pays well. Sorry to bust your bubble. But a marriage to a working girl is bound to be flawed from the get go.
LexLutherLex,
Give the guy a break and give him and his wife the benefit of the doubt, bro. Hope they're doing well and are happy. I'm going back to the "Where's Kapaula thread." Hope he's ok.
VS
Rexkirby00
07-25-09, 17:43
Sorry dude but I'm with VS. Wish them luck and cuit them some slack. I'm really happy to see any working girl retire. I don't get around too much but when oner I know retires and I see them, they look happy. ZEveryone deserves a chance, even KG's.
No flame, just a couple pennies worth.
Karma is a cycle
Rk
I have no idea how long you have been married. But I can guarantee you that when she eventually gets pissed off enough at you (for some tiny reason), as all wives eventually do, she'll leave you and go back to working in a KB or AMP. She may only do it with the intention of working part time or for a short period, but she knows that by so doing so she can earn enough to buy her independence. Independence from you and any of the crap she thinks she has to put up with from you.
Any ex-working girl will eventually go back to what she knows works well and pays well. Sorry to bust your bubble. But a marriage to a working girl is bound to be flawed from the get go.
LexLuther
Kalihi Kid
07-25-09, 18:55
Had some time so I checked out this thread for the first time. Interesting discussion regarding whether a bargirl can ever go straight. Just let me add my observations based on my own experience. I've had several relationships with KBG's who came from well-to-do families. Besides coming from wealthy families, the two women had other things in common. Both were college educated. Both married wealthy guys and got divorced. Both got very large settlements from their divorces, one got $1.5 million and the other $500k. Neither had to work after their divorces but each started working as KBG's just because they wanted more. Instead when they worked they began to associate with other women who then influenced them to make bad decisions and even took advantage of them.
Both women lost the small fortunes they got from their divorces in a very short time either because of gambling or bad business decisions. In each case, I met them when they were on their downward spirals. I was attracted to them because I could tell that these were good quality women and different from the other KBG's. I've had both kinds. It's like being able to tell the difference between driving a Honda and a Lexus. You just feel the quality. Although I tried my best to help each get their lives straightened out they were on paths of self-destruction and couldn't change. Today one of them is now working as a kitchen mama in PC and the other is doing outcall in Arizona.
The lesson to be learned is that once Kgirl has made up her mind that she can make a lot of money from men who are willing to pay her for something she considers fun to do, she will try it, first by hostessing, then the occasional escort job, and finally ending up in an AMP until she gets the boot from the MS, there is no stopping her. The money incentive is like Crystal Meth for a kgirl.
The main difference between Cash's woman and the women I met is that Cash provides the security that his wife needed. The women I described will not feel secure unless they have access to more money than they could possibly spend in their lifetimes but then again since each woman has squandered small fortunes, they know that they will never have enough. The real awakening comes only when they find themselves about to be kicked out into the streets then they will latch onto any guy who will provide food, shelter and the other basics in exchange for their services. Ever notice the number of older Asian guys with Kgirl live-ins or wives? You don't have to look much further than the newspaper headlines for corroboration. In the past several years, several of these types of relationships made the news when the wife or girlfriend has been murdered by a jealous lover and in one notorious case even by a stranger. This is only the tip of the iceburg.
Bottom line is Kgirls are looking for security. For some, a quiet life, house in the suburbs and a kind man to look after her is all they want. For those who want Gucci bags, Lexus cars, trips to Vegas and the other accouterments of the good life, they will always be looking for ways to get more. If it means being a KBG, masseuse, or escort they will do it in order to get what they want.
Hey KK,
Well said. Good post.
Had some time so I checked out this thread for the first time. Interesting discussion regarding whether a bargirl can ever go straight. Just let me add my observations based on my own experience. I've had several relationships with KBG's who came from well-to-do families. Besides coming from wealthy families, the two women had other things in common. Both were college educated. Both married wealthy guys and got divorced. Both got very large settlements from their divorces, one got $1.5 million and the other $500k. Neither had to work after their divorces but each started working as KBG's just because they wanted more. Instead when they worked they began to associate with other women who then influenced them to make bad decisions and even took advantage of them.
Both women lost the small fortunes they got from their divorces in a very short time either because of gambling or bad business decisions. In each case, I met them when they were on their downward spirals. I was attracted to them because I could tell that these were good quality women and different from the other KBG's. I've had both kinds. It's like being able to tell the difference between driving a Honda and a Lexus. You just feel the quality. Although I tried my best to help each get their lives straightened out they were on paths of self-destruction and couldn't change. Today one of them is now working as a kitchen mama in PC and the other is doing outcall in Arizona.
The lesson to be learned is that once Kgirl has made up her mind that she can make a lot of money from men who are willing to pay her for something she considers fun to do, she will try it, first by hostessing, then the occasional escort job, and finally ending up in an AMP until she gets the boot from the MS, there is no stopping her. The money incentive is like Crystal Meth for a kgirl.
The main difference between Cash's woman and the women I met is that Cash provides the security that his wife needed. The women I described will not feel secure unless they have access to more money than they could possibly spend in their lifetimes but then again since each woman has squandered small fortunes, they know that they will never have enough. The real awakening comes only when they find themselves about to be kicked out into the streets then they will latch onto any guy who will provide food, shelter and the other basics in exchange for their services. Ever notice the number of older Asian guys with Kgirl live-ins or wives? You don't have to look much further than the newspaper headlines for corroboration. In the past several years, several of these types of relationships made the news when the wife or girlfriend has been murdered by a jealous lover and in one notorious case even by a stranger. This is only the tip of the iceburg.
Bottom line is Kgirls are looking for security. For some, a quiet life, house in the suburbs and a kind man to look after her is all they want. For those who want Gucci bags, Lexus cars, trips to Vegas and the other accouterments of the good life, they will always be looking for ways to get more. If it means being a KBG, masseuse, or escort they will do it in order to get what they want.
Spermacide
07-26-09, 03:58
I have no idea how long you have been married. But I can guarantee you that when she eventually gets pissed off enough at you (for some tiny reason), as all wives eventually do, she'll leave you and go back to working in a KB or AMP. She may only do it with the intention of working part time or for a short period, but she knows that by so doing so she can earn enough to buy her independence. Independence from you and any of the crap she thinks she has to put up with from you.
Any ex-working girl will eventually go back to what she knows works well and pays well. Sorry to bust your bubble. But a marriage to a working girl is bound to be flawed from the get go.
LexLuther
I have a few friends that married KBG's and a boss that married a KBG. All of the KGB left the business.
One friend has two kids with the Ex-KBG (Married 12 years) and she packed up one day and left him with the kids. And she doesn't want to see any of them ever again.
My boss has been married a few years to an Ex-KBG. His first wife divorced him because of this KGB that he is married to now. (15 yrs age difference) He doesn't sound happy and I have this feeling she will kick him to the curb soon.
I also have another friend that got married to a KBG. Who knows what will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if she left him too.
Nothing is absolute, but I am biased and I would not marry a KBG or Ex-KBG.
Just my 2 cents!
So if not us then we know somebody who got fucked over by a k girl. It is so classic that when they get sick and tired of doing the wife gig they just up and split.
So if not us then we know somebody who got fucked over by a k girl. It is so classic that when they get sick and tired of doing the wife gig they just up and split.
That is the mind of a Korean ****. Blood sucking Korean hore sluts!
Have a nice day all!!!
For those of you who haven't noticed, this thread is called "The mind of a Korean working girl." There's no need for any of you to get offended by what I've said in this regard, either for yourselves, for "Cash for Me", or on behalf of any Korean working girls. I'm just telling you how I see it. And that comes from having walked the walk.
Many of these girls have a very seductive side to them. However, just like the Sirens of Greek mythology, their real parentage as well as their origins and their numbers is unknowable. So when a KWG tells you she came from money, take that (as well as everything else she says or promises) with a grain of salt. She may or may not have an education. However as with most women, a penchant for Gucci bags, Lexus cars, or anything that costs more than it is worth, is usually a dead giveaway that, although she aspires to class, she really does not have it.
I've met Korean women with class and self-respect. You can tell if you have met one because she will be a devoted wife and mother, have a business which she may run or which she may have others run for her, and will often be a devout Christian (whatever that means). That is just the way it is gents. Just look around your island home. There are plenty of respectable businesses owned and run by Korean women. There are, of course, the obvious ones such as dry cleaners, laundries, alteration shops, restaurants, grocery stores, etc. But there are are others as well. These include up-scale restaurants, car dealerships, etc.
Don't get me wrong. I love the KWG's just like the rest of you. I'm just saying that if you find yourself adrift in a sea of loneliness and hear the plaintiff song of the Siren, row like hell in the opposite direction. It is an appeal that, while hard to resist, will ultimately lead to unhappiness at best, and more likely to destruction.
You're all free to romanticize these girls, to delude yourselves that they are or can be something that they are not and can not be. You can fantasize that you have met the one girl in a million who finds herself trapped in a career that she did not choose and is just waiting for her white knight (that would be you) to come along and save her from a life of debauchery. But the truth is that she chose this life. And no matter how good looking you are, how much character you have, how much money you spend on her, how nice a pedestal you put her on, she is eventually going to choose debauchery again. As someone else put it, she will eventually kick you to the curb and start her game all over again with someone else.
LexLuther
Yeah I once met a church kgirl at Napa's; late 40's or early 50's, fat tits and body, and for $$ she woulda took me to her place if I act now since she had to get up early for churchee, because she's a good Christian.
Years later I saw her walking home behind Evergreen and she was even thicker, quoted me Free, so shit kden, even though she looking kinda nasty. We get in the car next thing you know "You get 2hundurid dallah?" Kden, out you go.
Haven't seen her around in a long time; seemed like no guys bought her drinks.
L Luther's post reminded me of that.
and the stories keep adding up.
To you guys out there who think that I am a biggot, racist, etc..whateva...
you guys are rookies in this world. If you think your going to tame the savage beast then good luck!
After all your money gone, no come back crying to me! I told you so...
I always tell my friends, neva eva trust a Korean *****. The way of life in Korea is all about cash. Borrow and no pay back, its always the case. and they do it to each other all the time.
These cunts will hang out with old guys so they can get the insurance or handouts until the guy dies. How low can that be? Lower than whale shit if you ask me.
That is their way of life and that is their culture. I should watch what I say when I say they cuz I am Korean, but I shame sometimes on what I see they doing. I was born and raised here and I hang with alot of koreans who are good and bad. So I see them do this shit all the time.
Hold da line and fuckem before they fuckU
Kalihi Kid
07-26-09, 20:06
I had some afterthoughts after posting my Two Cents earlier. No one has pointed out that the odds of getting divorced for all marriages, to KBG or otherwise, is now more than 51%. Nevertheless, I would qualify my earlier report by saying that the odds AGAINST a marriage working out with a KBG is probably in the range of 95% for women under 50 and 80% for those over that age. First, consider the fact that nearly all KBG have already been divorced at least one time, that's why they are working in a bar or MP to begin with. The odds for a successful marriage goes down for each subsequent marriage. Second, consider the fact that in KBG's minds at least, they believe that they are highly desirable to all men. It must certainly seem that way to them since so many men are willing to pay them for their company. Third, KBG think that their life working in a bar is full of excitement and intrigue would find it hard to lead a quiet normal life after spending a few years meeting many interesting guys and hearing so much gossip. Leaving the KB lifestyle can be as difficult as kicking an addiction especially for the younger women. It's another story for those over 50, however. It must be a shock to some women when men begin to refuse their requests for drinks or ask for younger and more attractive girls. Once they realize that they are no longer as desirable to men they start to worry about the future and their security. Most KBG's do not have any medical coverage unless they buy a personal plan which costs about $500 a month, no retirement and very little Social Security (since they usually under report their incomes). And that's probably the only reason that more relations that begin after the KBG reaches 50 would tend to last while those with younger women don't.
Thats what I call it. They like to show the flash and act classy, LV bag Gucci bag, $1000 dresses. $500 shoes and they all got rolex watches.
Its like how black pimp guys like to dress and act flashy.
They work in amps and bars and they get very used to the quick and plenty money. Like has been said, "hard to give it up".
So if they get hooked up they expect their man to provide the flash for them.
Why dont you fucken hores go out and get a regular job and try to be useful in society instead of being a bloodsucker. I hope some of you hores are reading this cuz I would get a kick out of you cunts feeling like shit or getting so upset at this shit. HAAAAAA!
If they go about doing their job and not being a biaaatch about it then cool. but dont sit with a customer and get pissed if he dont buy you a drink dont act like us men owe you something cuz you dont shit ice cream and you dont even comprehend what we say half the time.
You know Im da bare back supaman! So no stick no kryptonite (is that how you spell that shit or what) in my posts! HAAAAAAA!
You cool, all is good. Hey Lex you got a professor image, hmmmmmm, maybe an attorney perhaps????
Did you know that everymonth 500 people in the family court on Oahu file for divorce? That is true check the numbers. I wonder how many are Korean?
Reasons why they are KWGs.
1) Where else can you come and work in Hawaii with no references and make $$$$$s the first week you arrive from Korea, LA, NY, SC, Florida, etc.
2) As said before, money is too good here:
a) "I'm new so I'm popular girl"
b) "I'm work here long so I have many good customer"
c) Professional at taking your money w/no remorse
3) Cannot speak Engrish so cannot find good job.
4) Bored of their husband or boyfriend plus they don't get enough allowance from them so they have to make their own money.
5) Sorry to say but their best friends work at the KB too.
6) They met their boyfriend at the bar so it's ok for them to continue to work there too.
Bottom line is that they are there because they need (ed) money.
I've seen my friends go through it and experienced both sides of what has been posted and yah, I think most of these girls can be self centered and heartless and those are the ones that have been there forever or keep coming back. The handful that are nice and genuine don't last very long in bar because they couldn't handle this line of work so quit, met someone that could help them get out of the bar, or had enough ambition to make their money by other means like opening a business or finding a regular job. I made 3 KBGs quit the bar because they felt it was a strain on our "relationship". Although, I was glad for them to quit, they should've known that I wasn't looking to settle down and that hunting would still be my #1 hobby. Anyhow, these girls never returned to the bars. One married a pilot but she claims she didn't meet him at the bar, the other went to help her sister's business here, and the other moved to her relative's place in Cali and works in retail. So yes, good for them. The others that I've slept with, I still see them working at the bars at D'amour, Camelot, MF, CS, etc. And, of course, working for the reasons stated above. Even though they may be built that way, I try not to burn my bridges with these girls as they can and sometimes do easily talk bad about me to my new targets.
But yes, I can see Un Holy's point as I've had a few friends burned, now getting divorces, and left with loans or left with child. I think if you treat this as a hobby and establish rules for yourself (how much money to spend or not to spend, how involved you want to be in these relationships) and develop your techniques to scoring in this game, you should be ok in filtering out most of the money-crazed KBGs.
I was stationed in Korea back in the late 70's. what a candy store it was.
You just had to walk down the street in the villages and you could take your pick. $ 5 qiucky $15 overnight.
If you could handle the smell of Kimchee you could have a good ole time.
Thats what I call it. They like to show the flash and act classy, LV bag Gucci bag, $1000 dresses. $500 shoes and they all got rolex watches.
Its like how black pimp guys like to dress and act flashy.
They work in amps and bars and they get very used to the quick and plenty money. Like has been said, "hard to give it up".
So if they get hooked up they expect their man to provide the flash for them.
Why dont you fucken hores go out and get a regular job and try to be useful in society instead of being a bloodsucker. I hope some of you hores are reading this cuz I would get a kick out of you cunts feeling like shit or getting so upset at this shit. HAAAAAA!
If they go about doing their job and not being a biaaatch about it then cool. but dont sit with a customer and get pissed if he dont buy you a drink dont act like us men owe you something cuz you dont shit ice cream and you dont even comprehend what we say half the time.
Sometimes when I read these types of posts, I wonder, "how the hell did someone post what is in my mind??" You know - the types of things you THINK, but don't say, and then all of a sudden, hey, I don't remember writing that!
Anyways, I agree with this, and also they think they're hot shit if they have all those material goods, but little do they know that those things really have little value besides puffing up their own pathetic self image. If a KBG has a Chanel watch(a good % of them do), a LV bag(what KBG do you know that doesn't?), and some kind of expensive shoes, I don't think automatically that I should spend more on them. In fact, I would be more wary of NOT spending more on them because those are symbols of their prowess in taking customers' money, either quickly, or in large quantities, or both. I prefer the ones without all that shit. After all is said and done, when "everyone" has something, it no longer has as much perceived value.
I think that the majority of the kbb (korean bar bitches) come from poorer families. And I suspect that most of their parents don't know what they're doing here. To return to korea, even for a visit, without anything to show for their "success" in america, would be, to these bitches, a serious loss of face. The gucci, lv, and other overpriced designer crap they so desire show to others in their village that they've made it in america.
A female friend of mine told me, "If you want an asian chick, make sure they're american. Check that, make sure they're american-born. Many foreign-born women are materialistic and shallow". True that.
Iliketowatch
07-27-09, 19:53
Put the shoe on the other foot.
The KBG seeks money with a vengence.
Men want sex with a vengence.
We go to the bars and give these girls money. In return they lie and make us feel like we might have a chance for sex, be it, being the bf or a one night stand (Some mongers want a pop, and some want a relationship). We keep going back because we feel like were getting closer, but all we are doing is feeding their fire.
Now flip it.
If a girl wanted something from you with a vengence, be it a possesion, financial security, green card, baby, etc. whatever. If she want this "gift" as much as you want sex,
AND
If you worked at a bar and women came to see you and all they did was sit with you and you say how about a good luck french kiss, I haven't had one today? And they comply. Then you say, give me a hj (like they ask for another drink). And they comply. Then you say, how abouta bj (like another drink). and they comply. Then you say, how about fs (like them asking for yet another drink), They comply. And all you have to do I lie to them and make them feel like they are getting close to their goal. And they keep coming back to give you more sex. Why would you ever give to giving her, her goal?
That's how the mind works when it gets corrupted.
Jimmiedean
07-27-09, 20:57
I think that the majority of the kbb (korean bar bitches) come from poorer families. And I suspect that most of their parents don't know what they're doing here. To return to korea, even for a visit, without anything to show for their "success" in america, would be, to these bitches, a serious loss of face. The gucci, lv, and other overpriced designer crap they so desire show to others in their village that they've made it in america.
A female friend of mine told me, "If you want an asian chick, make sure they're american. Check that, make sure they're american-born. Many foreign-born women are materialistic and shallow". True that.
Yes alot in the business will screw u, but local girls can be materialistic bitches to. How many u see wearing a hundred fricken bracelets. Americanized girls are the worst. They want equal rights EX. in the work place. And expect you to open the fucken door. Now that's just crazy. Just my 2 cents
Jimmidean,
I probably hate local chicks more than Koreans. They are as you say more materialistic than most.
Steveto9,
Aint that the truth, eh????? So we all think it, but I say it. I have actually told off some of the bitches and they were shocked,..."oh how dare you say that Koreans are like that", "we are all not bad" (bar hore talking) and right after that she says, "can I have another drink" I say here bring you glass and I'll piss in it to refill it for you. They talk to the other girls in Korean and say that I dont have any class if I say things like that.....HAAAA!! fuck you! I got more class in my nuts than you got in your whole whorefilled family, *****!
No guys, I am not somebody who has been burned and now is bitter. Well, Yes, I have been burned. But I am not bitter, well maybe a little. Oh what the hell,...A WHOLE SHIT LOAD!
But fun is fun and this is what we are all here to have. So go out and fuck as many of them as you can before you die! and please make sure you get something in return for buying drinks, work towards tit rubs, feeling their pussy or grabbing ass, get something.
Good hole hunting!
OK, so Ill finally post here in brother U's thread.
To me, a K girl is a bitz. To quote Lex, "you can't turn a ho into a housewife" really rings home true.
They all in it for the $$$. No doubt. Don't be a sucker-- you make like that's your wife or GF in the bar.
How many dicks have they sucked besides yours, or fucked?
If they ain't going home with you, they ain't your property. They're somebody's sloppy seconds, that's for DAMN SURE.
To quote Easy E from NWA:
A bitz is a bitz
So if I'm poor or rich
I talk in the exact same pitch
Now the title bitz don't apply to all women
But all women have a little bitz in 'em
K, J, C, T, V, H, B, W, no matter what your color, a bitz is a bitz and a ho iz a ho. Simple.
Shit all this talking about K girls I like go Cheers Station now to see my fav bartender, haha.
Brother Unholy, I hope you find Ivy and PM her location and #, your chagi fall off and then you give me all your unholy BB master lessons so you can post as a eunich from now on. hehe.
H
Brudda Hinode finally went in on this. About time!
Yeah If I find Ivy I going drill her puss till my dick sticks out of her ass.
Welcome prince Hinode to my humble thread. All da guys are putting in their 2cents.
Now what about VC chicks (VietnameseCunts) ? The only one I bang is Mimi and she is cool. I used to bang another tiny spinner at RM but she gone now. and there used to be Monique at Pink, she had nice tits and all the right hardware. VC s seem to be more calm up front, but you neva know when they like remember the Vietnam war and cut your dick off when you sleeping.
But Hinode, good to see you throw down.
Cheers station bar tender????? DA tall one? da amazon?
Your right ...a btiz is a bitz is a bitz is a bitz is a bitz...
The problem with K bitzes is that they look good and you want them, but if you eventually get them, you find out how rotten they really are and you hate them and want nothing to do with them. ...and then you move onto the next one.
eh Hinode...how come rice so expensive now? HEHEHEHE!!!!
You mean to tell me this is it?!?!? Come on!
I know a ton of you guys who been fucked over. Lets hear it!
I've had somm good and some not so good experiences with Korean in the past. In general, some of them are real vultures, preying on the unsuspecting, weak minded, vulnerable guys. They know that their pussy is the key to opening a lot of doors, and the weakness in men is the pussy. In the days when champagne was $25/bottle I've seen guys waiting at the frontdoor at closing time and girl sneaks out the backdoor where another guy is waiting with his car. I got caught a coule of times with this sneaky tactics because I was so horny and my small brain was doing the thinking. I used to share bedtime with another guy when I used to go with this K-bargirl. At first I din't catch on but I often wondered why her phone was busy a lot of times and why she always kept her reciever off the hook whenever we were doing our thing. I got to screw her the night before her wedding. She got married to the other guy. I also went to her wedding reception. I used to sneak a few afternoon sessions when her hubby was at work. I used to think if she does this to her husband I could be the fall guy too if I ever got married to her. This kind of relationship goes on and on. Afer a while I got tired of going shopping with the K-woman and running the tab on my Amex card. In the old there were only a few illicit massage parlors. There were no K-girl then. Mostly haole coeds and locals. There were a few free-lancers then. Coeds selling their ass. One girl told me that if she is going to fuck a guyshe may as well get paid to do it instead of just going out to dinner and get laid after. Make sense, may as well make some money out of what you got and what the guys want. Todays K-girls are more inclined to rip you off for all you're worth and then some. Watch your wallet and charge cards and bank accounts if you want to play the field, think with your big head and not your small head. Sometimes paying at the local AMP is not a bad idea. LTR with a Korean women is a very high risk adventure. For you old-timers remember Naka at the Arirang Bar. After the owner dumped him he ended up back where he started, back at Kekaulike with not much to show for his venture. This list goes on and on and on.
Beware guys.
You mean to tell me this is it?!?!? Come on!
I know a ton of you guys who been fucked over. Lets hear it!You can take the man out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the man.
I have not been to the bar scene in a while because it was becoming of how caught up I became. Hooked up with a K-bar girl thought she loved me did the usual things dinners, shopping ,help with bills,help with family, etc.She said that she quit the scene and I said right on! But she was poking guys on the side with her best friend. Yup , but now I got over that , the bars the same the scams the same the smells the same ( not so much cigarette smoke) just the faces change! The girls are far from home and the eyes are wide open they will do just about anything to get what they want because if the heat is on they split to america or homeland.
Me like Korean Pussycat, without the cat.
Where were you guys when I was growing up? Yeah, I got some wisdom the hard way. I feel bad for all the unsuspecting brother mongerers out there, but life will go on, new generations of KB girls and suckers are born every day.
Just some observations: There is some chance for a decent guy to find a decent girl in a KB, some girls made some fast cash and helped their sick relatives in Korea (or all lies? ), there is a high turnover of girls and guys as most girls do not stay in the business for long and many guys become wise. There are all types of girls who come into the business, and some may be decent, is that why we all go for and they know we want the new girl? It is a challenge to go against these KB girls, and when it comes to money, don't think you can outsmart them. It is a dangerous game of cash and hearts, and I respect all players, over the ones with no courage and sit at home or look down on the bar scene. I do not wish the girls go get decent jobs, it is our hobby, and the more the merrier! Be careful.
If you catch them when they are fresh off of the boat you have a better chance of meeting a decent one. If they been in the business for awhile then your chances are slim to none that you will find a decent minded K girl. When they work bar their mentality changes and they learn or expect men to give them money for everything. They are the most lowest form...K girls are like Whale shit at the bottom of the ocean. They feel they are suppose to be treated like a queen by the man.
It's a pussy chase! That is the bottom line. You chase the pussy with all your money and when you run out of money she walks and finds another victim.
Try asking one out. They will probably tell you that it will take time (and many drinks) before they get to know you and then go out with you.
Been there done that, bar girls, amp girls and they are very similar. They spread their legs for $$$$$$$ and lots of it.
That is why the mind of a korean bar or amp chick is pretty much fuckedup.
Guys....be strong and be smart, think with your head and not your dick.....oh shit i know thats hard to do, but at least learn to say no.
K amp girl:
Will dress slutty and try to get you hard to get you to cum ASAP.
Will take your money and rub your body and get you all worked up.
Will bj and then fuckyou and then your dick explodes and you cum.
Will then clean you up and send you on your way.
K bar girl:
Will dress slutty and try to get you hard.
Will rub your leg and brush her tits against you to get you worked up.
Will mind fuckyou until your wallet explodes and you shoot all your money on her.
Will then walk away and leave you wondering "what da fuck just happened"???
Iliketowatch
09-19-09, 17:16
Michael Jackson Song
Sung by Mariah Kim
Some bar near Keeamoku
You and I must make a pact, I must bring starvation back
Where there is ton, I'll be there
I'll reach out my hand to you, Jackson's please, or maybe two
Just call my cell and I'll be there
I'll be there to lie to you,
Build my stash of Vuitton around you, I'm so glad that I found you
I'll be there with a head thats strong
You look for sex, You wait so long
When I sneak home at night filled with laughter
Benjamin, well that's all I'm after
Whenever you need me, I'll be there
I'll be there to deceive you, with an selfish love that disrespects you
Just say cha ching and I'll be there
If you should ever find someone new, I slash your tires and maybe key it too
Wherever you park, I'll be there
Don't you know, baby, yeah yeah
I'll be there, I'll be there, I'm just a psycho, I'll be there
(just look over your shoulders, honey)
I'll be there, I'll be there, whenever you leave me, I'll be there
Don't you know, baby, yeah yeah
I'll be there, I'll be there, just call my cell, I'll be there...
(fade out to when she dumps you because you ran out of money)
Jimmiedean
09-19-09, 20:18
That was some funny shit. Loved the cha ching part totally classic. I think you nailed the experience. LOL next time with the ENGRISH version please
Where there is ton, I'll be there
...
(fade out to when she dumps you because you ran out of money)LOL. It's all about the ton-age. Hahaha
If you should ever find someone new, I slash your tires and maybe key it too
Best line... LOL!
Alohashorts
09-20-09, 02:45
Brah, you got talent. Would be funny you request that song in a KB, and sing your words over it. Too much!
Although we would all relish the thought of being married to one and serviced free by one for the rest of our lives. I think there would be consequences. "Buy me this, buy me that", "no buy me Mercedes, then if no car then no suckee, fuckee"
LOL!
anybody in this situation?!?!?!
Candy Addict
09-25-09, 04:53
Although we would all relish the thought of being married to one and serviced free by one for the rest of our lives. I think there would be consequences. "Buy me this, buy me that", "no buy me Mercedes, then if no car then no suckee, fuckee"
LOL!
anybody in this situation?!?!?!
I've never been in this situation, but I know a guy who is, sort of. His wife isn't a bargirl, and she isn't even Korean, she's a Haole! But the things my buddy has to go through just to get an occasional BJ from his wifey....
I knew another guy several years ago who'd just gotten out a relationship like that with a bargirl. It was exactly as you described it, Brother UH!
LOL
Member #6232
09-25-09, 05:12
I've never been in this situation, but I know a guy who is, sort of. His wife isn't a bargirl, and she isn't even Korean, she's a Haole! But the things my buddy has to go through just to get an occasional BJ from his wifey....
I knew another guy several years ago who'd just gotten out a relationship like that with a bargirl. It was exactly as you described it, Brother UH!
LOLBraddahs,
Lmfao. What kine poor sap actually fall for the KBG or AMP "I luv you long time honey" and think for once that luv had anyting to do with it and when marry him anyways. Whose even in that kind of situation, I say good luck. I heard get some poor saps in same situation. I bet the wifey know take half. Hah! Probably better luck having a mail order type bride. But, hey, wtf? Some saps never going learn.
Chumchurum
09-26-09, 06:30
You guys are right we would all want an AMP or kb girl to give it up to us for free if we marry them, or become their boyfriends, but I think most of us would enjoy it for a while and then get tired of it. No matter how hot the wifey or gf is, we always want something new. Before we get it, we think this is THE ONE, but then after a year or so, we get tired. I don't know about most of you guys, but that's how I am. It's in our blood. It's how guys are hardwired.
You guys are right we would all want an AMP or kb girl to give it up to us for free if we marry them, or become their boyfriends, but I think most of us would enjoy it for a while and then get tired of it. No matter how hot the wifey or gf is, we always want something new. Before we get it, we think this is THE ONE, but then after a year or so, we get tired. I don't know about most of you guys, but that's how I am. It's in our blood. It's how guys are hardwired.
Yeah.
It's the same in the animal kingdom according to a nature show I saw; the male tiger, elephant, gorilla, whatever, will try to sow his oats in as many females as possible.
Mahalo guys for your comments on this.
I gotta tell you that most of you guys seem to be on the younger side. But that is cool, cuz if you were older then you would want to look for something permanent. The young males in the animal kingdom do get it on until the younger buck beats the shit out of them and then takes over.
Like when the old bull and the young bull are sitting on the hill tip on the ranch and the younger bull tells the older one, "let's run down there and fuck one of them", but the older bull says, "let's walk down there and fuck them all"
At my age you look for something that will wake up and suck you and then fuck you then ask you to make her O! That is fair, and as long as you can live with that until you die then cool... YES! I used to be married to one of those beeeeeetches! But that was when I was young dumb and full of cum. Now I gotta take time and pick and chooose them.
Some of you guys have told me that you think Im nuts and others have supported what I say. But if you believe me or not I speak from experience and I do not speak with forked tounge.
Have fun!!!!
Mahalo guys for your comments on this.
I gotta tell you that most of you guys seem to be on the younger side. But that is cool, cuz if you were older then you would want to look for something permanent. The young males in the animal kingdom do get it on until the younger buck beats the shit out of them and then takes over.
Like when the old bull and the young bull are sitting on the hill tip on the ranch and the younger bull tells the older one, "let's run down there and fuck one of them", but the older bull says, "let's walk down there and fuck them all"
At my age you look for something that will wake up and suck you and then fuck you then ask you to make her O! That is fair, and as long as you can live with that until you die then cool... YES! I used to be married to one of those beeeeeetches! But that was when I was young dumb and full of cum. Now I gotta take time and pick and chooose them.
Some of you guys have told me that you think Im nuts and others have supported what I say. But if you believe me or not I speak from experience and I do not speak with forked tounge.
Have fun!!!!
I don't know if I saw all your posts, but most of it (especially k-girl rep), I always presumed was common knowledge.
I remember the looks on people's faces when they saw me with a kgirl (even if she wasn't a bargirl). "Friends" just assumed I was stupid and that she'd suck my money and that she f'd plenny guys. They'd preach that jgirls are trouble-free, but in my experience the reverse was true.
Most of the happiest (and some of the not-so-happy) memories I have are of k-girls (bar, amp, or college/work).
Peace,
H M
I don't know if I saw all your posts, but most of it (especially k-girl rep), I always presumed was common knowledge.
I remember the looks on people's faces when they saw me with a kgirl (even if she wasn't a bargirl). "Friends" just assumed I was stupid and that she'd suck my money and that she f'd plenny guys. They'd preach that jgirls are trouble-free, but in my experience the reverse was true.
Most of the happiest (and some of the not-so-happy) memories I have are of k-girls (bar, amp, or college/work).
Peace,
H M
You're right about the J-girls, I had a live-in gf that went through $500k of my money. She was a great cook and housekeeper, though.
Korean
Japanese
Vietnamese
I think Koreans got the best body and the most sneaky attitude. Money is what its all about to them. They will be money sucking bitches until they die. Always sleep with one eye open when married to one.
Japanese (from Japan) are sweet but not a great body. They want family and to live happily ever after if they are late 30's plus.
Vietnamese are crude and really third world savages. Especially the FOB ones, they are almost as bad as tree monkeys.
Chinese chicks are ****** from the get go. They are crude but not as much as Viet chicks. They are similar to Korean.
Great one! So, hmm if I need to sleep w/ one eye open w/ A Korean one and not the one in the middle of my little head. What do I need to sleep w/ if I sleep w/ a Vietnamese one? Oh wait you said when married to one. Ah, ok. Will not apply to me, I only rent. But uh. Never can be too cautious. So how do I sleep when w/ a Vietnamese one?
Korean
Japanese
Vietnamese
I think Koreans got the best body and the most sneaky attitude. Money is what its all about to them. They will be money sucking bitches until they die. Always sleep with one eye open when married to one.
Japanese (from Japan) are sweet but not a great body. They want family and to live happily ever after if they are late 30's plus.
Vietnamese are crude and really third world savages. Especially the FOB ones, they are almost as bad as tree monkeys.
Chinese chicks are ****** from the get go. They are crude but not as much as Viet chicks. They are similar to Korean.
Sancho2063
09-29-09, 11:41
Me like Korean Pussycat, without the cat.Me likee all Asian girls!
Great one! So, hmm if I need to sleep w/ one eye open w/ A Korean one and not the one in the middle of my little head. What do I need to sleep w/ if I sleep w/ a Vietnamese one? Oh wait you said when married to one. Ah, ok. Will not apply to me, I only rent. But uh. Never can be too cautious. So how do I sleep when w/ a Vietnamese one?
Why would you want to sleep with a girl who is like a tree monkey?(I LMAO on this one, because it's true!) Just do her and say goodbye. Less time for them to get all crazy in the head and make up shit that doesn't exist, and then do something insane to you.
You guys are right we would all want an AMP or kb girl to give it up to us for free if we marry them, or become their boyfriends, but I think most of us would enjoy it for a while and then get tired of it. No matter how hot the wifey or gf is, we always want something new. Before we get it, we think this is THE ONE, but then after a year or so, we get tired. I don't know about most of you guys, but that's how I am. It's in our blood. It's how guys are hardwired.
Yup.
That's why I cheat and do what I do.
Anthony Soprano is my idol.
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Korean
Japanese
Vietnamese
I think Koreans got the best body and the most sneaky attitude. Money is what its all about to them. They will be money sucking bitches until they die. Always sleep with one eye open when married to one.
Japanese (from Japan) are sweet but not a great body. They want family and to live happily ever after if they are late 30's plus.
Vietnamese are crude and really third world savages. Especially the FOB ones, they are almost as bad as tree monkeys.
Chinese chicks are ****** from the get go. They are crude but not as much as Viet chicks. They are similar to Korean.
Ahhh you forgot to mention that hot Chinese chicks(FOB) about 30% of the time got the black armpit scragglies to go with their nice supple white skin. And that regular Korean chicks(the kind that hasn't worked the AMP, especially in the US) don't know how to fuck very well compared to their Japanese counterparts who have studied porn pretty carefully. How do you think the J-girls can mimic those sex noises? They don't get together and discuss how to make the squeeks and shrieks while playing the innocent ho. They learn from the JAV baby. Plus they try harder to please. But yeah, Koreans have the best looks overall.
The Chinese chicks got to learn to clean their pussy. They just plain stink!
The cleanest pussy's belong to the Koreans, they really know how to scrub the cheese out of their holes.
viet and chinese chicks got hair on the nipples, big turn off!
viet and chinese got stink pussy! They gotta learn to clean them holes like the Koreans who are expert w h o r e s.
viet look good from far but when you get them naked some of them look like junk skin. I know cuz I used to have a couple of them and the ones who had good skin had stupid brain or shitty attitude or looooose ****.
Japanese chicks are okay in looks if they shave da hair and trim the bush. They can be trained to suck and fuck pretty good but I like them real horney and I have found that they are the most horney of all asians, just as you guys said they watch all that porn and learn from it. I had girlfriends from all the above and they are okay until they start to say, buy me, buy me buy me....all I got to say about that is that all of the above deep down inside are w h o r e s !!!
Best skin, hair, sex, holes, body, tits, etc..... Koreans of course!!!
The Chinese chicks got to learn to clean their pussy. They just plain stink!
The cleanest pussy's belong to the Koreans, they really know how to scrub the cheese out of their holes.
viet and chinese chicks got hair on the nipples, big turn off!
viet and chinese got stink pussy! They gotta learn to clean them holes like the Koreans who are expert w h o r e s.
viet look good from far but when you get them naked some of them look like junk skin. I know cuz I used to have a couple of them and the ones who had good skin had stupid brain or shitty attitude or looooose ****.
Japanese chicks are okay in looks if they shave da hair and trim the bush. They can be trained to suck and fuck pretty good but I like them real horney and I have found that they are the most horney of all asians, just as you guys said they watch all that porn and learn from it. I had girlfriends from all the above and they are okay until they start to say, buy me, buy me buy me....all I got to say about that is that all of the above deep down inside are w h o r e s !!!
Best skin, hair, sex, holes, body, tits, etc..... Koreans of course!!!
My Chinese gf had long, fine, sparse hair down there. And naturally bare around the pussy lips. The most sexy part? - Her underarms were completely bare and smooth - without shaving. One of my real turnons. And since she looooved my tongue, she learned to douche before EVERY date. My secretary, a Jgirl, (see General Reports) was real hairy all over. When she put on a bikini, she had to shave so nothing showed above or below. Don't know about Vietnamese, except I fucked one vgirl who was ethnic Chinese and hers was the same as my gf. The one time I dated a kgirl and ended up in the sack, I couldn't tell if she shaved, but the hair was real frizzy/curly but didn't cover alot of the "v" area. And the area between the pussy and ass was bare. How you figgah? AND, BTW, she gave GREAT bbbj.
To me Filipinas have the least body hair. I dated a local Japanese girl back in the 90s. She had to shave as I always felt stubble on her legs. Japanese are the hairiest of the asian girls.
J-girls have nice facial features but I cannot stand their lips when it's almost hairier than mine. Try ask 'them for drink milk. But then get some Korean girls that claim that they no have thick hair so they don't shave their legs or armpits but can still see more than they think. Fail!
To me Filipinas have the least body hair. I dated a local Japanese girl back in the 90s. She had to shave as I always felt stubble on her legs. Japanese are the hairiest of the asian girls.
To me Filipinas have the least body hair. I dated a local Japanese girl back in the 90s. She had to shave as I always felt stubble on her legs. Japanese are the hairiest of the asian girls.actually okinawan (japanese) girls are the most hariest. Many japanese nationals from mainland japan don't have much hair. My ex gf didn't need to shave except for her pits. But then she also shaved down there which was pretty cool.
Yeah, I hate hairy pits and nipples and legs and pussy too.
I used to see this Viet chick and she had hairy nipples, blah!
I used to see all kinds that had hairy legs, I told them to shave it or beat it.
I used to see Chinese chicks that had hairty pits, I told them to shave or beat it.
I used to see Japanese with hairy pussy and hairy legs but after I trained them they shaved.
Hairy chicks suck! Filipino chicks do have smooth sking if you get da right ones, Thai chicks got smooth skin and reallly tight pussy. But flip chicks and Chinese and Viet never gave good bjs. Only good Viet bj was from mimi. Hard to find somebody who will swallow. Japanese are most horney of all. Korean are the most skilled.
Yogi Boji Yogi
10-04-09, 19:03
J-girls have nice facial features but I cannot stand their lips when it's almost hairier than mine. Try ask 'them for drink milk. But then get some Korean girls that claim that they no have thick hair so they don't shave their legs or armpits but can still see more than they think. Fail!Thai women also have mustaches, IME.
But their legs and arms are not hairy.
Their pussies and armpits, though, are hairy.
Chumchurum
10-06-09, 07:39
Anyhow, while we are off topic, I might as well add my 2 cents. J girls have the softest skin, probably cause of baby fat. K girls have the best cleanest skin. Don't know much about Chinese or Viets. J girls do seem hornier, but K girls are prettier. I don't know what I would want more, a horny girl that's decent looking, or a pretty one that's not horny. Oh yeah, J girls have better asses. K girls have flat ass, but their faces make up for it. What you guys think?
So most of them only hold money as the number one reason why the we put on this world.
When I date Korean chicks I still do the test. If they offer to pay, its rare but nice, if they want to buy takeout for all their friends and put it on your tab they are ****** with no class. If they want to go to only the best place to eat then they are greedy no class biiiitches. If they will fuck you after only two dates then you know they must like you a little. If they pay for their own drink just to sit with you then they are interested in you. If they fuck suck and swallow after the 5th date then you know you got to consider hanging onto her for awhile. If she ever introduces you to her mom, then you got a chance. If you get her pregnant then only god can help you.
If you marry her then only god can help you. If you piss her off after you marry her then you will live in hell for awhile.
Is it worth it? Been there done that. The pussy was good but was it worth it? Only god knows!
So you calculate how many times you fucked her and how much childsupport and alimony you paid.....so was it cheaper just to go to an AMP?????
The answer is ...............YES!!!! You betta believe it brudda!!!!! You should have gone to that AMP.
Fuckem and leave em.
Brutal One
10-06-09, 23:51
Reminds me of my favorite tattoo from the PI
Anyhow, while we are off topic, I might as well add my 2 cents. J girls have the softest skin, probably cause of baby fat. K girls have the best cleanest skin. Don't know much about Chinese or Viets. J girls do seem hornier, but K girls are prettier. I don't know what I would want more, a horny girl that's decent looking, or a pretty one that's not horny. Oh yeah, J girls have better asses. K girls have flat ass, but their faces make up for it. What you guys think?
I don't know about all that. All I know is, K-girls have straight teeth. J-girls don't. LOL
I haven't made very many post because I was fulltime 'dating' one of the providers that a lot of you like. All I can say is since Feb we were pretty much doing the I love you BS but thanks to all of you my wallett wasent cleaned out by her. And let me tell you guys she tried so hard. She tried the I might be pregnant move that didn't work, she tried I'll stop working if you give me money that didn't work, then she tried give me money by a certain date which I agreed too but a couple nights before the day we all went drinking she is a mean drunk so I kept thinking of all the post you guys have made about this topic and again my red flags stayed up. So now she tells me she cannot trust me cuz I broke a promise to her and says she's going to date this other guy who's been around for a while. So a Big Mahalo to all of you if I could I'd buy all of you a round you guys saved me a ton of money which now I can spend on mongering. I for one can say it's really hard to think with the head on your shoulders sometimes.
Stay safe,
LL
Jimmiedean
10-21-09, 15:49
Was just reading your post and was happy to hear one of us saved money lol. So are you going to drop a name so your fellow mongers have a heads up since your not with her anymore. Lucky you had yourguard up and didn't fall for the different angles she tried
Was just reading your post and was happy to hear one of us saved money lol. So are you going to drop a name so your fellow mongers have a heads up since your not with her anymore. Lucky you had yourguard up and didn't fall for the different angles she triedOnly to member of a higher status and PM only it's probably best that you all don't know who she is. Cuz she is a fav of a lot of mongers.
Another save! Been there done that.
Our theme song is..."You can't take the BAMP (bar/amp) out of the girl...."
Once they are trained to work bar and amp its hard to break their way of thinking. Its like drugs for them. They gotta rip you for your money.
I hope you got your monies worth and pounded her hole as many times as possible and then calculated how many times you got free pound vs paying her per pound. he he he!!!!
I used to pound my Korean ***** as many times as possible cuz I knew I had to get my dollar value before she dug out.
Bench Warmer
10-22-09, 04:20
I haven't made very many post because I was fulltime 'dating' one of the providers that a lot of you like. All I can say is since Feb we were pretty much doing the I love you BS but thanks to all of you my wallett wasent cleaned out by her. And let me tell you guys she tried so hard. She tried the I might be pregnant move that didn't work, she tried I'll stop working if you give me money that didn't work, then she tried give me money by a certain date which I agreed too but a couple nights before the day we all went drinking she is a mean drunk so I kept thinking of all the post you guys have made about this topic and again my red flags stayed up. So now she tells me she cannot trust me cuz I broke a promise to her and says she's going to date this other guy who's been around for a while. So a Big Mahalo to all of you if I could I'd buy all of you a round you guys saved me a ton of money which now I can spend on mongering. I for one can say it's really hard to think with the head on your shoulders sometimes.
Stay safe,
LL
I call BS on LovinLife. All of your posts are suspect.
Whatever dude it really dosent matter what you think of my post so just ignore them. You think your the post police.
I call BS on LovinLife. All of your posts are suspect.
"Whatever dude it really dosent matter what you think of my post so just ignore them. You think your the post police.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Member #2322
I call BS on LovinLife. All of your posts are suspect."
I think that maybe Member #2322 is fishing for you to release a name. I know I'm curious as I have someone about to go on retainer soon. :)
Only to member of a higher status and PM only it's probably best that you all don't know who she is. Cuz she is a fav of a lot of mongers.
I'm guessing that it's Sua or Mulan from your past posts. I haven't seen her, but she sounds hot. I have a feeling that a lot of mongers would give their right nut to be her boyfriend too.
I believe that only Korean Girls in the business are very money hungry orientated.
I would venture to say that Straight Korean women who are not into the AMP business are like any other woman when it comes to money.
Also, I have to commendate you bruddahs on this forum. I recently met a Korean amp woman that I really hit it off well with. After the massage we traded phone numbahs and met each other at a local club that she worked at part time.
Believe me, it was money, money, money, all the time. I made an excuse and left. Boy was that ever close. Total damages was still about 4 bills. With no kitty in sight.
Bummers!
Thanks guys for a job well done.
ShowboatNah, Show, You just happen to get the wrong one, I came across some good caring ones, thats not all about money, thats in the bars, amp, and business.
Also came across some pake chick,jchicks, haole, thats money hungry.
No give up some thing good will come along, just be one step ahead, and run like you did when you see the light.
Good Luck Boat
Iliketowatch
10-23-09, 18:14
I haven't made very many post because I was fulltime 'dating' one of the providers that a lot of you like. All I can say is since Feb we were pretty much doing the I love you BS but thanks to all of you my wallett wasent cleaned out by her. And let me tell you guys she tried so hard. She tried the I might be pregnant move that didn't work, she tried I'll stop working if you give me money that didn't work, then she tried give me money by a certain date which I agreed too but a couple nights before the day we all went drinking she is a mean drunk so I kept thinking of all the post you guys have made about this topic and again my red flags stayed up. So now she tells me she cannot trust me cuz I broke a promise to her and says she's going to date this other guy who's been around for a while. So a Big Mahalo to all of you if I could I'd buy all of you a round you guys saved me a ton of money which now I can spend on mongering. I for one can say it's really hard to think with the head on your shoulders sometimes.
Stay safe,
LL
The only way to really know how she feels about you, and if she really change her ways, is to not spend money on her she see how she reacts. That's the mans cryptonite for a bar girl, no money. Keep spending and you'll never know. That's exactly what the girls are doing. They say, why should I give him nani if he keeps paying me and I never have to give in. Smart choice LL. Though we all still want to know who she is. Chao
I keep telling you guys that. I also agree that it is not only Koreans, but others and locals too. If the chick starts to buy you dinners, lunches, gifts, then you know she really likes you.
I admit, I dated a few, married one and had several for GF's, I been there done that and learned my lesson. Some say that I have become jaded, so be it. But I pass on my experience to save those who do not know better and need to control their little head. I know its tuff when you fall in lust with one of them, but its only lust and it will run out when the money is gone. You guys gotta remember that Korea is a third world country, they were brought up thinking about cash and how they will use it. That is what Korean society is all about and it goes on all the time, they continually fuck over their own, borrow and lend money to each other and they do it here. Anybody else who is Korean like me can talk, if not then you dont know shit. I tell all you guys to be careful. So just have fun and bone as many as you can before you die!!!!!!
I keep telling you guys that. I also agree that it is not only Koreans, but others and locals too. If the chick starts to buy you dinners, lunches, gifts, then you know she really likes you.
I admit, I dated a few, married one and had several for GF's, I been there done that and learned my lesson. Some say that I have become jaded, so be it. But I pass on my experience to save those who do not know better and need to control their little head. I know its tuff when you fall in lust with one of them, but its only lust and it will run out when the money is gone. You guys gotta remember that Korea is a third world country, they were brought up thinking about cash and how they will use it. That is what Korean society is all about and it goes on all the time, they continually fuck over their own, borrow and lend money to each other and they do it here. Anybody else who is Korean like me can talk, if not then you dont know shit. I tell all you guys to be careful. So just have fun and bone as many as you can before you die!!!!!!
Although I'm not Korean, I've been married to two KBGs and had a number of girlfriends. Don't ask why I made the same mistake twice; my Korean military doctor asked me that and he has a Korean wife too. It happens. Anyway I warn my friends that when you get involved with a Korean or any other from that area, you are involved with a culture that is so ingrained in the person, they'll never change. If you can tolerate the different mind processes, go for it. Otherwise, back out and don't look back.
If I could go back, I think that I would rent for one hour and go home smiling.
Good luck and have fun out there.
So the morrow of the story is "ONLY RENT AND NO BUY"
Maybe short term lease????
So the morrow of the story is "ONLY RENT AND NO BUY"
Maybe short term lease????
I guess it's the "If you got the milk, why buy the cow"
Iliketowatch
10-24-09, 18:47
I guess it's the "If you got the milk, why buy the cow"
I have a feeling this won't be the last time someone says, I think "this" girl is different. I know someone who is married to kb girl for more than 10 years, but their marriage is weird. More like roommates, than a couple. Because he is fat and lonely, he is happy with the situation. No one else will give him a 2nd look. It's sad, but I guess if he thinks that's the best life can be for him with his physical attributes, who am I to say he shouldn't have done it. He is so fixated on looks, he'll never see the true character of a really sincere girl who is not model quality. Not that is wife is a looker, she's average, but prettier than he would have gotten with the local girl market. He'll sneak out to the bars with me a couple of times a year, but he's just there to look. He can't buy drinks because of the Korean grapevine will get back to his wife. Loneliness, Horniness (they don't even have sex anymore), and needing to pump one ego will always rule over common sense.
Iliketowatch
10-24-09, 18:52
So the morrow of the story is "ONLY RENT AND NO BUY"
Maybe short term lease????
It's just that the security deposit is always too high and you'll never get it back!
It's better to have loved and losy, than to have never loved.
But it's not better to have lust and lost (all your money), than to have never lusted (or fooled yourself that it was love) at all.
Chao
I am currently seeing a KB milf 50. I go to her apartment an average of three times a month. I am very wary about the money thing and it is true no denying it. I either have to go and see her every so often and buy her drinks $$ or bring her a gift in an envelope 1.5 - $$ once in a great while. In between this she takes me to town in her bed. Korean women have to satisfy their sexual needs too. She loves my daty on her and cums intensely everytime with double pops for me and her. The best was when she called me from work at about 2:30 pm saying that the football game was over which she had to go in early for and needed to see me. I found the time to make it over to her place and found her hornier than ever. She had some drinks and smelled the alcohol on her breath. This was the first time that she called me from her side to have sex and I did not buy her drinks or gave her $$. Although I know this situation will probably will not last I am going for it since it is benefiting both of us. When I do the math I am ahead instead of going amping three times a month.
Remember guys if you are dropping more that $$ per pop for everything you do for her then mo betta go AMP!
I guarantee you that she is doing the math in her head.
One thing that amazes me is the stories I hear how the bar girls will go to bars like Juliana or what was Club Africa and spend all there money on guy hostesses.
I've been told when they like you a KB/AMP girl can be super obsessive. Any thoughts on how these korean male hostess guys are able to get the girls all hooked on them to the point where they are the ones getting the money (which is probably all our $ LOL)?
One thing that amazes me is the stories I hear how the bar girls will go to bars like Juliana or what was Club Africa and spend all there money on guy hostesses.
I've been told when they like you a KB/AMP girl can be super obsessive. Any thoughts on how these korean male hostess guys are able to get the girls all hooked on them to the point where they are the ones getting the money (which is probably all our $ LOL)?
The bar girls need to relax so they go to host bars. Kinda stupid, but easy come easy go. They also go there to "pay back" the hosts for referrals that they send to see the girls.
Warriors808
10-28-09, 17:14
One thing that amazes me is the stories I hear how the bar girls will go to bars like Juliana or what was Club Africa and spend all there money on guy hostesses.
I've been told when they like you a KB/AMP girl can be super obsessive. Any thoughts on how these korean male hostess guys are able to get the girls all hooked on them to the point where they are the ones getting the money (which is probably all our $ LOL)?
I have seen these "hosts" with their "sugar mama's" visit the KB girl clients and buy them drinks and champagne, with their "sugar mama" paying the tab.
Thumperforq
10-28-09, 18:59
One thing that amazes me is the stories I hear how the bar girls will go to bars like Juliana or what was Club Africa and spend all there money on guy hostesses.
I've been told when they like you a KB/AMP girl can be super obsessive. Any thoughts on how these korean male hostess guys are able to get the girls all hooked on them to the point where they are the ones getting the money (which is probably all our $ LOL)?
Most of the girls that do that have a sugar daddy that pays for everything. The money that they make in the bar when sugar daddy is not around is play money that they keep or spend as they choose. If sugar daddy is a wrinkled old man, then they will spend some of it on the young host to satisfy themselves.
Phillybeauties
11-03-09, 01:23
I finally understand why SOME korean and hapa korean nom hate themselves and ALL korean women, and give them an undeserved reputation of being money grubbing comfort women.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/world/asia/02race.html?_r=1&em
I finally understand why SOME korean and hapa korean nom hate themselves and ALL korean women,
I think you can say that about any town in the USA where the males of the majority ethnic group will hassle any guy from another race for going out with a local woman.
I appreciate all your support and PMs. Unfortunately there are others who just enjoy throwing mud at things he really does not understand. I feel sorry for those types.
Korea is a third world country and they try to mimic Japan and the USA. It is very difficult for anyone to understand the culture unless you are one or partly. Or have family that are. I am both caucasian and asian and I know more about the cultural differences that most because I have lived it.
Both men and women in Korea are always thinking about how to make money just like most americans but the women use their beauty to make the bucks. Hawaii is unique and even differs from the room salons in LA and NY, which I have been to. Korean women in bars and amps are there to make money and if they get a chance most of them will rip you off. There are some who want to settle down here and make a life in Hawaii, I know many and they try but many get bored and need the bar or amp fun especially if they are under 40. A Korean woman is considered old if she is late 20's and has not been married. She still got a chance in her early 30's, but has done things to survive that she is not proud of. When they hit 40 they begin to mellow and in the mid 40's most hope to find a man. Some had written themselves off to being single forever. At 50, they know if they cannot find an old man like 60's they are doomed to be single. ...end up kitchen mama, bar mama, ..whateva.
Most local guys in Hawaii do not really care if mainlanders go out with the local girls, I for one say go for it. If they got a problem with that then they got a problem, period. But I lived in East and West coast and felt the eyes get mad at me for just talking to "their" women. Mainland haoles are way more biggot then locals. But they cannot bring themselves to believe it.
Phillybeauties
11-03-09, 12:26
Korea is a third world country and they try to mimic Japan and the USA.
Speaking of not understanding, get a reality check
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul
Seoul's influence in business, international trade, politics, technology, education and entertainment all contribute to its role as a prominent global city.[6] It is considered to be an Alpha World City, ranking 9th in the 2008 Global Cities Index. Seoul is the iconic city of the Miracle on the Han River and hosted landmark international events such as the 1988 Summer Olympics and the 2002 FIFA World Cup. It is one of the world's top ten financial and commercial centers,[7] home to some of the world's largest conglomerates[8] such as Samsung, LG and Hyundai-Kia. Seoul was Asia's most expensive city to live in 2007, and the third most expensive city worldwide.[9] With a GDP per capita of $31,095 in 2007, Seoul has a living standard comparable to France and Italy.[10][11][12] In 2008, Seoul was named the world's sixth most economically powerful city by Forbes.com, ahead of Paris and Los Angeles.[13]
Look Philly if you dont like what I write then stay off of my thread. You think you know what you are talking about, but are you Korean? Do you speak the language? Have you lived there? Do you know how many politicians have been sent to jail? Do you know what a cash and carry society is? Do you have family there? I know how they think, eat, sleep and shit and more. You are typical outsider who thinks he can read some statistics off of the internet and know everything about somewhere. Just like Hawaii, you think you know it all, too bad. That is all I'm gonna say to you. Obviously you have no class and just want to pick fights.
Jackson, I leave it to you.
To the other guys on this thread, sorry but ignorant people sometimes just like to cause problems.
I started this thread so that we can all share what we have experienced in getting fucked over by money hungry women. Sometimes they are Korean, and sometimes not. I hope that some of you guys do not fall into the trap and get suckered into turning over all your hard earned money to the Kbars and amp chicks. Just have fun and let them think you going spend kala on them and pace yourself.
Phillybeauties
11-04-09, 02:34
Look Philly if you dont like what I write then stay off of my thread. You think you know what you are talking about, but are you Korean? Do you speak the language? Have you lived there? Do you know how many politicians have been sent to jail? Do you know what a cash and carry society is? Do you have family there? I know how they think, eat, sleep and shit and more. You are typical outsider who thinks he can read some statistics off of the internet and know everything about somewhere. Just like Hawaii, you think you know it all, too bad. That is all I'm gonna say to you. Obviously you have no class and just want to pick fights.
Jackson, I leave it to you.
To the other guys on this thread, sorry but ignorant people sometimes just like to cause problems.
I started this thread so that we can all share what we have experienced in getting fucked over by money hungry women. Sometimes they are Korean, and sometimes not. I hope that some of you guys do not fall into the trap and get suckered into turning over all your hard earned money to the Kbars and amp chicks. Just have fun and let them think you going spend kala on them and pace yourself.YOUR thread may have been started by you, but it's a PUBLIC forum, so unless you want to PM everyone in private your musings, it's a free country to comment, as defined by 1st amendment. Plus, yeah, i don't like what you write, so by default, don't like you, but i'm not even knocking what you say if it's FACT. I'm disagreeing with your OPINIONS, which you're entitled to have, and I'm entitled to disagree with. All I'm doing is poking holes in your points, one by one, and offering an alternate viewpoint, which is that maybe SOME K women are after money, but so are SOME haole women, and every other race. If you're finding that women are only with you because of money, it's a reflection of yourself that that's the kind of chicks you're going for. (or are able to get)
I also point out that usually the ignorant are the ones that make blanket statements. It's called prejudice/sexism/racism when you stereotype someone across the board. I'm not calling you a local yokel because of your background or where you come from, ewa man, i think you're a country bumpkin because of your uncivilized viewpoints and attitudes.
Phillybeauties
11-04-09, 02:39
The Chinese chicks got to learn to clean their pussy. They just plain stink!
The cleanest pussy's belong to the Koreans, they really know how to scrub the cheese out of their holes.
viet and chinese chicks got hair on the nipples, big turn off!
viet and chinese got stink pussy! They gotta learn to clean them holes like the Koreans who are expert w h o r e s.
viet look good from far but when you get them naked some of them look like junk skin. I know cuz I used to have a couple of them and the ones who had good skin had stupid brain or shitty attitude or looooose ****.
Japanese chicks are okay in looks if they shave da hair and trim the bush. They can be trained to suck and fuck pretty good but I like them real horney and I have found that they are the most horney of all asians, just as you guys said they watch all that porn and learn from it. I had girlfriends from all the above and they are okay until they start to say, buy me, buy me buy me....all I got to say about that is that all of the above deep down inside are w h o r e s !!!
Best skin, hair, sex, holes, body, tits, etc..... Koreans of course!!!Man, you must be a frickin perfect greek god with the skills of a porn star and shit that smells like roses to be able to judge women so harshly. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If all the women you hang out with are hos, all I have to say is birds of a feather flock together. You [Deleted by Admin] For me, AMP sex is just a diversion from the hot high-class ass I get for free. Speaking of [Deleted by Admin] anytime soon.
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Not too many details as I have just made the acquaintance of a new KBG (3 weeks in the biz, she says and I believe that she is definitely new to Hawaii).
Doesn't gamble and says that she wants someone for sex, not love.
After some pretty hot 'n heavy booth action (3rd base as we used to say in the old days), she burst out. "Damn, I'm supposed to be hustling you. And you've got me hustled! "
(They must teach that in KBG101). I thought it was a pretty funny comment.
Only 4 drinks spent so far (including the intro drink at the bar), so I feel that it has been OK value for money.
There are some warning signs "You can't come to my place because I have a roommate", but we'll see how far it goes.
Iliketowatch
11-05-09, 14:27
I have a friend who is getting on my nerves. We can't go to this bar or that bar because he says I don't want to see so and so because "she'll" bug me for drinks. I just tell him to tell her to bug off. He says he can't. I'll convince him to go a bar and "his" girl would come to him and he starts buying her drinks when he says he doesn't want to. Why can't he say no? Is it he really doesn't want to say no? Does he find the attention pumps up his ego, his ego to be wanted by someone even if it's a bar girl? He says I'll never spend on another bar girl ever, then I find him buying drinks the next week. Is he so lonely that this is the only interaction with the opposite sex he can get? I know he's never been married. He's a nice guy, we work together but, his wining is starting to get on my nerves. What do you think guys?
I have a friend who is getting on my nerves. We can't go to this bar or that bar because he says I don't want to see so and so because "she'll" bug me for drinks. I just tell him to tell her to bug off. He says he can't. I'll convince him to go a bar and "his" girl would come to him and he starts buying her drinks when he says he doesn't want to. Why can't he say no? Is it he really doesn't want to say no? Does he find the attention pumps up his ego, his ego to be wanted by someone even if it's a bar girl? He says I'll never spend on another bar girl ever, then I find him buying drinks the next week. Is he so lonely that this is the only interaction with the opposite sex he can get? I know he's never been married. He's a nice guy, we work together but, his wining is starting to get on my nerves. What do you think guys? I have a friend the same way. He is too weak to tell a girl "no" so I do it for him. The girls hate me because I give them a lot of crap and tell them to beat it. I don't feel guilty at all. I actually made him walk out on a girl at a bar who we told to NOT get a drink. She goes to get a drink because she "knows" he is going to pay. We just walked out and didn't pay for the drink. Everyone needs to put the girls in their place when they think they own you.
You gotta stand your ground. The worse kind of B girl is the type who does not even ask and just goes and helps herself to a drink. In the rule book that is "no class". When they get comfortable with you it gets costly so set the ground rules up front and tell them "a girl with good manners will wait until she has been asked if she would like a drink". That first "good luck drink" is always the bullshit opener that they use, but watch them go for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and on and on.
Save your money, go to an AMP and guarantee get laid.
1 amp visit = 10 drinks.
When dealing with B girls, you need to stand firm. If you don't, they'll walk all over you since they have lost respect for you. This is what probably happened in the situations below. Once this happens, there is no chance for the girl to fall for the guy.
You should never feel obligated to pay for something you didn't order. If the girl has a problem, talk to the MS. If she doesn't change the way her girls conduct business, her business will fail.
This works everytime - Smile as you say one of the following:
"Maybe later"
"Not now, we have to talk business first"
"We're waiting for our other friends to come first"
"We just got here - give us a few minutes to have a drink first"
If they keep insisting, you just repeat the same thing you said, and if you actually give a crap say it with a smile. Eventually she looks like the damn used car(drink) salesperson ***** that she is, when you stayed the course with a calm smile! Even the other chicks can observe that you're not a loser, and will have more respect for you.
Especially if you don't have the funds or don't like the girl, you should be employing something like the above. I know it's "cool" to diss the bitches in a manly way, but I know this doesn't work for newbs or the types that aren't confident to say no in the first place. Hope this helps some of you. Try practicing it with your friend before you go next time.
Iliketowatch
11-06-09, 15:57
When dealing with B girls, you need to stand firm. If you don't, they'll walk all over you since they have lost respect for you. This is what probably happened in the situations below. Once this happens, there is no chance for the girl to fall for the guy.
You should never feel obligated to pay for something you didn't order. If the girl has a problem, talk to the MS. If she doesn't change the way her girls conduct business, her business will fail.
Took my friend to camelot last night. I feel he has battered women syndrome. You know the way women who will stay with battering bf. They rather put up with the abuse than be alone. He said something strange when we were drinking and I told him remember just say no. He said but what if no one pays attention to him. I shouldn't come out to drink then. He rather get abused and get attention than be in control and alone. I tried to take him to an amp but he always says he's not into that. We always talk about sex but I think he'd rather have companionship than sex.
I have a friend who is getting on my nerves. We can't go to this bar or that bar because he says I don't want to see so and so because "she'll" bug me for drinks. I just tell him to tell her to bug off. He says he can't. I'll convince him to go a bar and "his" girl would come to him and he starts buying her drinks when he says he doesn't want to. Why can't he say no? Is it he really doesn't want to say no? Does he find the attention pumps up his ego, his ego to be wanted by someone even if it's a bar girl? He says I'll never spend on another bar girl ever, then I find him buying drinks the next week. Is he so lonely that this is the only interaction with the opposite sex he can get? I know he's never been married. He's a nice guy, we work together but, his wining is starting to get on my nerves. What do you think guys?You have to speak to them in Korean and tell them you don't want to buy them a drink. Tell them you are not going to spend money on them, and stand your ground. Oh, also speak Korean like a man, not in the girl dialect most guys use.
Good luck.
Ottiss
I had one who would not take no for an answer and went and got a drink. I sat there looked at her and told her, "you paying for your own drink, cuz I am not". She gave me a dirty look and walked off. Toooooo fuckin bad *****!
Just tell them "2FBB" = Tooooo fuckin bad *****!
Do not be pussy whipped! The bitches think that just cuz they look sexy you will melt in their hands. 2FBB!
Jimmiedean
11-07-09, 02:40
I was at 939 having a few by the bar. A dancer sat next to me and talked a bit. So I bought her a drink she kind of just chilled. Was maybe about 10 mins before she had her drink. Next thing I know a waitress ask me do u want to buy her another drink. I did, then the girl told me they are watched. If they sit they have to sell drinks. We sat for awhile talking before she had her second drink. And right on cue her comes the waitress.
When it's there set there drinks are 40. I told her oh you better go dance that's expensive. She later came to talk to me after her set. Here comes the waitress. She asks do you want to get her a drink. I said no. She said not even one. I told her I already got her two earlier so no. She was mad and left. Next waitress same thing. Two others did it I told them no. Then told the dancer you should walk around before she gets in trouble. She laughed and told me shell come by later.
Was a cool girl to tell me what's up. I was glad for the info. Hated being hounded by the waitresses. The dancer wasn't really pushy. I hate when you talking and you get harassed. Anyone ever had this happen to them at 939
Thumperforq
11-07-09, 03:07
I was at 939 having a few by the bar. A dancer sat next to me and talked a bit. So I bought her a drink she kind of just chilled. Was maybe about 10 mins before she had her drink. Next thing I know a waitress ask me do u want to buy her another drink. I did, then the girl told me they are watched. If they sit they have to sell drinks. We sat for awhile talking before she had her second drink. And right on cue her comes the waitress.
When it's there set there drinks are 40. I told her oh you better go dance that's expensive. She later came to talk to me after her set. Here comes the waitress. She asks do you want to get her a drink. I said no. She said not even one. I told her I already got her two earlier so no. She was mad and left. Next waitress same thing. Two others did it I told them no. Then told the dancer you should walk around before she gets in trouble. She laughed and told me shell come by later.
Was a cool girl to tell me what's up. I was glad for the info. Hated being hounded by the waitresses. The dancer wasn't really pushy. I hate when you talking and you get harassed. Anyone ever had this happen to them at 939
The general rule at most strip and hostess bars is that if the girl is sitting with a customer, she should be getting a drink every 6 - 10 minutes. The waiters and waitresses are supposed to help the girl by asking for her, so she doesn't feel uncomfortable or awkward. The bars want the girls to make a minimum of 5 drinks an hour if they are sitting with a customer.
Jimmiedean
11-07-09, 05:12
The general rule at most strip and hostess bars is that if the girl is sitting with a customer, she should be getting a drink every 6 - 10 minutes. The waiters and waitresses are supposed to help the girl by asking for her, so she doesn't feel uncomfortable or awkward. The bars want the girls to make a minimum of 5 drinks an hour if they are sitting with a customer.
Yes I understand but it seems like they were more pushy or I noticed it more at 939. It started to get annoying when the girl was just talking to me after her set and I bought her drinks earlier. I wasn't interested in buying drinks and four different waitresses asked me to buy the girl a drink. And when I said no they kept asking. It was just irritating.
Never noticed that type of hounding at femmes. I just was irritated that I told the girl she should walk around instead of standing by me
Yes I understand but it seems like they were more pushy or I noticed it more at 939. It started to get annoying when the girl was just talking to me after her set and I bought her drinks earlier. I wasn't interested in buying drinks and four different waitresses asked me to buy the girl a drink. And when I said no they kept asking. It was just irritating.
Never noticed that type of hounding at femmes. I just was irritated that I told the girl she should walk around instead of standing by me
I wouldn't be surprised if the waitresses are given a commission for each drink the hustle. It benefits house, girl and waitress but irritates the hell out of customers. You did the right thing by saying no. If you're sitting on the bar and drinking, that is basically what the bar is for.
I sometimes go to Glitter Gulch in LV and sit on the bar. Some of the dancers have been there for years and remember seeing me. If they are nice and not pushy, I'll buy them a drink. No lap dances or anything else. If they get pushy, I just leave and just head back to the casinos.
You have to speak to them in Korean and tell them you don't want to buy them a drink. Tell them you are not going to spend money on them, and stand your ground. Oh, also speak Korean like a man, not in the girl dialect most guys use.
Good luck.
Ottiss
Some good advice there brother Ottiss, can you enlighten some of us on _HOW_to say "NO" in Korean?
Some good advice there brother Ottiss, can you enlighten some of us on _HOW_to say "NO" in Korean?
Look 'um in da eye an' say "Aniyo!" (roughly Ah-NYO). It's ok with some bar girl trying to rip you off, but that's not the form to use in polite/formal situations.
Btw I thought this thread had Un Holy's name on it - I see it says Admin now. I know the title was modified but it still had his name on it. What happened?
Look 'um in da eye an' say "Aniyo!" (roughly Ah-NYO). It's ok with some bar girl trying to rip you off, but that's not the form to use in polite/formal situations.
Btw I thought this thread had Un Holy's name on it - I see it says Admin now. I know the title was modified but it still had his name on it. What happened?
Or you could say "Shee-doh". I think this means "I don't want to."
Why Jackson changed it to Admin beats me. Whatever, just go with the flow. Still got some pretty good stories being exchanged about how to handle da Korean monster.
JUST SAY NO!
Stangman808
11-08-09, 22:03
Look 'um in da eye an' say "Aniyo!" (roughly Ah-NYO). It's ok with some bar girl trying to rip you off, but that's not the form to use in polite/formal situations.
Btw I thought this thread had Un Holy's name on it - I see it says Admin now. I know the title was modified but it still had his name on it. What happened?
Some other Korean phrases that might be helpful:
"Kacho"- Go away or get lost.
"Hachimote"- You cannot do that.
"Sengkak opso" - I'm not interested.
Some other Korean phrases that might be helpful:
"Kacho"- Go away or get lost.
"Hachimote"- You cannot do that.
"Sengkak opso" - I'm not interested.
Yeah; but Brother Hinode wanted to simply say "No" (Like Un Holy says). Other phrases may be similar but this all spun-off from girls who need to be treated more bluntly.
I used to work around a k-girl who was unhappy with the closed-captioning on k-dramas; "That's not what they're saying!" was her complaint.
So there's a lot of 'glossing-over', and I suspect that (as with the other asian languages) certain phrases cannot stand alone because they have various meanings.
I just tell them I don't have money; looking the way I do, they believe pretty quick :)
Peace,
H M
I always tell them, "I don't buy drinks for girls". Usually works, but had one come back with "Why not?" I'm thinking that it's none of her business, and came back with "I only buy drinks for girls who give HJ or BJ". "Aish!" (or whatever they say) and went back to her customer at the bar. Another time, again fairly recently, one said, "You good looking. Why you no buy me drink?" "because I don't find you attractive" (although she was a solid 7). "Aish!" and walks away. Have to fight fire with fire.
Alohashorts
11-10-09, 04:19
one said, "You good looking. Why you no buy me drink?" "because I don't find you attractive" (although she was a solid 7). "Aish!" and walks away. Have to fight fire with fire.
lol! Straight up. I usually tell them " because I'm saving my money for that cute one over there"
lol! Straight up. I usually tell them " because I'm saving my money for that cute one over there"
I told one K-girl in a bar that I was gay. She sent over the gay waiter. LOL. I never used that excuse again. BTW he was pretty cool.......No I am not gay. TX.
CheapCharlie
11-11-09, 09:07
I told one K-girl in a bar that I was gay. She sent over the gay waiter. LOL. I never used that excuse again. BTW he was pretty cool.......No I am not gay. TX.
HA,HA! Talon X you are too much! I gotta try that next time one girl cannot take no for an answer.
I told one K-girl in a bar that I was gay. She sent over the gay waiter. LOL. I never used that excuse again. BTW he was pretty cool.......No I am not gay. TX.
Ho bra, my friend's coworker did that and the same thing happened. Maybe I should bring a hot lezzy with me and see if they send over the hotties.
Alas, I don't know any...
As someone who has been going to bars for many years, I just tell the girl that I didn't bring enough money for her. I usually keep my 20's in my wallet and my loose 1's (5's and 10's) in my money clip. If she asks I just show my money clip.
Or you can jokingly tell her "ton opso". That means that you don't have $$.
Usually when she comes by I look uninterested and she usually goes away after trying her luck.
The guys are trying to pick up a girl, they want the company of a girl, or they are just hanging out shooting the shit and watching the babes go by. If your trying to pick up a girl, good luck, you will need it and alot of 20's. If you want the company of a girl you will nees a lot of 20's.
THIS IS A BUSINESS!!! WISE UP YOU GUYS!!!!!!
Most of the girls want to make money, some of the newer ones want to find a boyfriend who will "take care of me" yeah, give you money to spend and you do jack shit all day long. "I just want to be housewife, he he he" yeah and do jack shit all day long. BLOOD SUCKING LEACHES!!! EXCEPT THEY SUCK MONEY OUT OF YOUR WALLET.
I was at 939 having a few by the bar. A dancer sat next to me and talked a bit. So I bought her a drink she kind of just chilled. Was maybe about 10 mins before she had her drink. Next thing I know a waitress ask me do u want to buy her another drink. I did, then the girl told me they are watched. If they sit they have to sell drinks. We sat for awhile talking before she had her second drink. And right on cue her comes the waitress.
When it's there set there drinks are 40. I told her oh you better go dance that's expensive. She later came to talk to me after her set. Here comes the waitress. She asks do you want to get her a drink. I said no. She said not even one. I told her I already got her two earlier so no. She was mad and left. Next waitress same thing. Two others did it I told them no. Then told the dancer you should walk around before she gets in trouble. She laughed and told me shell come by later.
Was a cool girl to tell me what's up. I was glad for the info. Hated being hounded by the waitresses. The dancer wasn't really pushy. I hate when you talking and you get harassed. Anyone ever had this happen to them at 939Using the excuse that you already bought drinks for her earlier doesn't really mean much because you buy drinks for time going forward. Its just like any hostess bar - if you buy a drink for a dancer, you get to spend time with her (like ten minutes or whenever she finishes her drink). When the time is up, you either have to buy her another drink or she moves on. have to feed da meter! If you get a parking ticket at an expired meter, you can't complain to da judge that you had alreaady spent a lot of quarters for the hours you parked there before it expired.
Basically, you don't get any credit for past drinks.
Peace out.
Jimmiedean
11-15-09, 17:42
Using the excuse that you already bought drinks for her earlier doesn't really mean much because you buy drinks for time going forward. Its just like any hostess bar - if you buy a drink for a dancer, you get to spend time with her (like ten minutes or whenever she finishes her drink). When the time is up, you either have to buy her another drink or she moves on. have to feed da meter! If you get a parking ticket at an expired meter, you can't complain to da judge that you had alreaady spent a lot of quarters for the hours you parked there before it expired.
Basically, you don't get any credit for past drinks.
Peace out.
The only problem was the girl was hanging around me. I could care less if she left, but she wanted to chat. The waitresses asked if I wanted to buy her a drink to which I said no. That's what my point was. I didn't ask her to stay by me. I bought her drinks earlier and I was done. It wasnt my fault she wanted to talk to me
The only problem was the girl was hanging around me. I could care less if she left, but she wanted to chat. The waitresses asked if I wanted to buy her a drink to which I said no. That's what my point was. I didn't ask her to stay by me. I bought her drinks earlier and I was done. It wasnt my fault she wanted to talk to meAh thats different den. She shoulda been buying YOU da drinks, my man! LOL. You have to tell her that your time aint free.
Seriously tho, I get that a lot too at the smaller clubs because its slow and the girls just wanna chat. They know I not going to buy drinks but they still come around. Thats a major diff between the small and larger clubs. At da smaller clubs, if you say no one time, the waitress won't keep asking. At da larger clubs, they have more waitresses and no sections so you have to keep saying no.
Jimmiedean
11-16-09, 07:51
Ah thats different den. She shoulda been buying YOU da drinks, my man! LOL. You have to tell her that your time aint free.
Seriously tho, I get that a lot too at the smaller clubs because its slow and the girls just wanna chat. They know I not going to buy drinks but they still come around. Thats a major diff between the small and larger clubs. At da smaller clubs, if you say no one time, the waitress won't keep asking. At da larger clubs, they have more waitresses and no sections so you have to keep saying no.
Tell me about it. I was getting irratated cause it's almost like they wouldn't take no for an answer. I could careless what your boss told you. I said no. One even waited like I would change my mind.
KBG= Korean Bar Girl
ROB = Rip Off *****
KBG + ROB = C-U-N-T
Iliketowatch
11-17-09, 14:54
Tell me about it. I was getting irratated cause it's almost like they wouldn't take no for an answer. I could careless what your boss told you. I said no. One even waited like I would change my mind.
Happened to me too. She said if I sit with you and don't have a drink, Patty will get mad. I said, well, take a five from your purse and buy yourself a drink, our pupu's not free if you going sit here. She left.
Keep da barbitches in control.
Do not spend all your Christmas money on worthless Korean women who would never give you the time of day if you met them on the street.
HO HO HO, Santa will neva bring you HOLE HOLE HOLE unless you spend MONEY MONEY MONEY.
Just go to an amp and pound away your holiday pay!!!
Iliketowatch
12-18-09, 19:30
This is s breakdown of guys who DO NOT go to KB's, for groping and one night stands. Not the guys who know it's play or no pay. This is for the LOVERS in the bars.
1) Customer: I go to the bars and treat the girls with respect.
(real reason)
a. How else can I get the opposite sex to talk to me unless I pay them.
b. If I don't grab them, then maybe they'll like me more. I got no other assets, anyway.
c. I'm too fat, ugly and old to score in the real world, I need the attention.
d. If I'm nice, then the girl will change and be my perfect wife.
2) Customer: She always buys me my drink.
(real reason)
a. You're such a loser, she doesn't feel threatened by you. Easy way to keep you around.
b. Makes you feel special, so you stay longer.
3) Customer: We go out to lunch and dinner.
(real reason)
a. She's starving and doesn't want to burn her hard earned cash.
b. Her roommate went to lunch too, so she has to keep up with the Jones'.
4) Customer: But she pays for lunch sometimes.
(real reason)
a. Her advertising budget just got a boost (from you last night).
5) Customer: I'm such a nice guy, I don't want to hurt her feelings by saying NO to a drink.
(real reason)
a. Maybe she won't come back and I'll be all alone.
b. Your hat has a "S" on the front and sucker on the back and you didn't go to Stanford.
You are the typical bar guy. It's OK to be this guy. 99% of the guys that go to the bars are this guy. Old or lonely or ugly (hope you're not all three), it's OK. But, don't make a fuss when you get burned. You're in a bar. This is their job. It's in the job description (I've read it, next to the 401k posting). You want a nice girl, go to Hope Chapel on Sundays. In all the bars in Honolulu, 99% are ****** working you for your money, and 1% is a descent girl (but she leaves after a couple of days). In the church, 99% are descent girls, and 1% are ****** trying to see if god can save them (but they leave after a couple of Sundays). Play the odds, don't let the odds play you.
This is s breakdown of guys who DO NOT go to KB's, for groping and one night stands. Not the guys who know it's play or no pay. This is for the LOVERS in the bars.
1) Customer: I go to the bars and treat the girls with respect.
(real reason)
a. How else can I get the opposite sex to talk to me unless I pay them.
b. If I don't grab them, then maybe they'll like me more. I got no other assets, anyway.
c. I'm too fat, ugly and old to score in the real world, I need the attention.
d. If I'm nice, then the girl will change and be my perfect wife.
2) Customer: She always buys me my drink.
(real reason)
a. You're such a loser, she doesn't feel threatened by you. Easy way to keep you around.
b. Makes you feel special, so you stay longer.
3) Customer: We go out to lunch and dinner.
(real reason)
a. She's starving and doesn't want to burn her hard earned cash.
b. Her roommate went to lunch too, so she has to keep up with the Jones'.
4) Customer: But she pays for lunch sometimes.
(real reason)
a. Her advertising budget just got a boost (from you last night).
5) Customer: I'm such a nice guy, I don't want to hurt her feelings by saying NO to a drink.
(real reason)
a. Maybe she won't come back and I'll be all alone.
b. Your hat has a "S" on the front and sucker on the back and you didn't go to Stanford.
You are the typical bar guy. It's OK to be this guy. 99% of the guys that go to the bars are this guy. Old or lonely or ugly (hope you're not all three), it's OK. But, don't make a fuss when you get burned. You're in a bar. This is their job. It's in the job description (I've read it, next to the 401k posting). You want a nice girl, go to Hope Chapel on Sundays. In all the bars in Honolulu, 99% are ****** working you for your money, and 1% is a descent girl (but she leaves after a couple of days). In the church, 99% are descent girls, and 1% are ****** trying to see if god can save them (but they leave after a couple of Sundays). Play the odds, don't let the odds play you.As I read it, you claim 99% of the guys who frequent hobars are the lover type, or that these lover types are the typical bar guy. I'd have to respectfully disagree. There are more the pay for play guys than 1%. I'd say the lovers comprise 20 to 25%, true hardcore mongers 60 to 70%, and 5 to 10% just there to drink. I've seen the lovers, yes they are pl's (for those who did not know the alt.sex.stripclubs newsgroup, it stands for pathetic losers), especially in the eyes of the ******.
Hostess808
12-18-09, 22:23
I come to work, enter the 'waiting section' at the bar with the other hostesses. Listen to them chit chat, talking crap about other girls then denying it in their face, how they aquired their gucci shoes not mentioning the BJ that she gave for it, and the one funny thing they all seem to have in common which irritates the hell out of me is this phrase. "oh, he was MY customer. I didn't put out so I was dropped". I'm thinking. Maybe you did put out and it stank so YOU got dropped. Whatevers. I remove myself and go for a smoke. As I come back in, the entire clan of hostesses turns to see if I was a customer with $$$$ eyes and looks away. Wow, that was scary, I wonder if guys feel the same way when they walk in, or does it make them feel special? Hmmm.
Uh oh, here comes a customer. He has just walked into the death trap. Then I hear the following irritating phrase from the rejects. So the newer ones are pushed to go or the money sucking hoes will run. Money sucking hoe wins. Then the rejects go wild with the 'acceptance' talk, "OMG, he's buying HER a drink? " Trust me gentlemen, ALL THE GIRLS watch who you sit with, which dictates what kind of man you are by the 'kind' of girl you buy drinks for. Even if it wasnt you who chose. Now you have been categorized.
Catergories of bar-men:
1. Married = good clean fun, no drama or touchy touchy
2. Single with age = did that, done that, just want companionship
3. Single with less age = cheap thrills, he thinks his 2 testicles is his IQ
4. OMG, he is HOT = I want him, I'll buy him a drink, boyfriend material
5. Dorks = everyday bar sitters, good for good luck drinks
6. Sugar Daddy's = viagra for a Prada
7. Friends = No Charge
Once you are categorized, its a done deal and you will be known for that forever unless proven otherwise, until then you are now Category #3. You come back a different night. The girls gawk and say. "Oh him, he sat with HER last time, I heard he fingered her, f**k that! " But uh oh, mama calls the new one for you this time. Newbie heard what you did and who you are. She shuts down her feelings and acts she know nothing, just make money she tells herself. But you find this one interesting, she seems a little different than the rest. You don't want to bang her but get to know her. Newbie finds you are pretty cool, too. So you have fun, exchange numbers, you go home. Newbie comes back to waiting area and reports how much drinks she got without being banged. Makes her feel special. Awwww.
Conclusion: Newbie has already 'shut down' her feelings of any further hope with you because of your category, until proven otherwise. Although she wants to pursue, she will always protect herself and be cautious just like you men do with barchicks. Therefore, you will eventually go home with blue balls.
Under my observation, these girls are in denial that they are actual bargirls. They believe, like you guys believe bargirls are out for your money, that you are here only to get p***y. They believe their vagina is of more quality than the rest, so they constantly need to confirm and reassure themselves that they are worth something. "If I do mean something to you, show me. " To be honest, there is no way a bargirl will go home with you on the real unless you are a Category #4. Otherwise, you must prove them otherwise.
See you in my next blog
P.S. I am here to be helpful, so please do not throw personal vengeance toward me.
Thank you.
Now, I would like to comment about this church stuff.
Did you guys know.
That lot of the girls say they have to go to church. The korean version of church is to get together some people (20-30) and file for it being a church to avoid taxes. They gather every week and talk and eat and pray and ripoff the IRS. That is the Korean church way. To find everyloophole in the US system to ripoff and let us middle class taxpayers pay up. Fuckemall. I am sorry to say I am part Korean and I am really shame at what alot of them do. I'd say that about 20% of all the Korean women I know have sold their ass. Most of them have ripped off someone and it goes on and on. That is what you get when you have third world country people trying to act like veteran American business people.
Those of you guys who are critical of me for putting down my own people, you are sooooooooo stupid you are hypocritical unrealistic idealistic and plastic. Your the ones who go to dangerous countries and walk around like your shit don't stink, complain about our soldiers fighting for our country, and get kidnapped and then after you get your head cut off everyone feels sorry for you [Deleted by Admin]!
I'm a full on local boy who enjoys da locla ways and all the shitnstuff that comes with it. So, live with it, be careful how you use it, and if you don't like it, then get the fuckout.
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Buck N Ham
12-19-09, 00:15
I'm not a barhopper but all this talk makes me want to give this side of our hobby a shot.
Thanks for your perspective...
Buck
P.S. I am here to be helpful, so please do not throw personal vengeance toward me.
Thank you.
Iliketowatch
12-19-09, 01:05
As I read it, you claim 99% of the guys who frequent hobars are the lover type, or that these lover types are the typical bar guy. I'd have to respectfully disagree. There are more the pay for play guys than 1%. I'd say the lovers comprise 20 to 25%, true hardcore mongers 60 to 70%, and 5 to 10% just there to drink. I've seen the lovers, yes they are pl's (for those who did not know the alt.sex.stripclubs newsgroup, it stands for pathetic losers), especially in the eyes of the ******.
I know you are closer with the percentages. I was just trying to be extreme. Mainly because this blog always talks about trying to get a gf, rather than a one-niter. I know one nighter are ballsy, because you will be off-limits in the bar after the girl spreads the butter about you.
Iliketowatch
12-19-09, 01:09
OOOOOOOOHHH! Yeah!
Now, I would like to comment about this church stuff.
Did you guys know....
That lot of the girls say they gotta go to church. The korean version of church is to get together some people (20-30) and file for it being a church to avoid taxes. They gather every week and talk and eat and pray and ripoff the IRS. That is the Korean church way. To find everyloophole in the US system to ripoff and let us middle class taxpayers pay up. Fuckemall. I am sorry to say I am part Korean and I am really shame at what alot of them do. I'd say that about 20% of all the Korean women I know have sold their ass. Most of them have ripped off someone and it goes on and on. That is what you get when you have third world country people trying to act like veteran American business people.
Those of you guys who are critical of me for putting down my own people, you are sooooooooo stupid you are hypocritical unrealistic idealistic and plastic. Your the ones who go to dangerous countries and walk around like your shit dont stink, complain about our soldiers fighting for our country, and get kidnapped and then after you get your head cut off everyone feels sorry for you.....fuckyou!
I'm a full on local boy who enjoys da locla ways and all the shitnstuff that comes with it. So, live with it, be careful how you use it, and if you dont like it, then get the fuckout.
I'm talking about a real church (if there is something like it out there), maybe any other church that locals go to and not korean churches. The korean church does to the girls what they do to us. Lie and ask for money. Anything korean is iffy. I worked at a korean restaurant in my younger days and you wouldn't want to eat anything if you saw what I saw. They always asked me if I wanted something and I said no thanks, I'm not hungry. Where do you think the flavor comes from?
OOOOOOOOHHH! Yeah!
Now, I would like to comment about this church stuff.
Did you guys know.
That lot of the girls say they have to go to church. The korean version of church is to get together some people (20-30) and file for it being a church to avoid taxes. They gather every week and talk and eat and pray and ripoff the IRS. That is the Korean church way. To find everyloophole in the US system to ripoff and let us middle class taxpayers pay up. Fuckemall. I am sorry to say I am part Korean and I am really shame at what alot of them do. I'd say that about 20% of all the Korean women I know have sold their ass. Most of them have ripped off someone and it goes on and on. That is what you get when you have third world country people trying to act like veteran American business people.
Those of you guys who are critical of me for putting down my own people, you are sooooooooo stupid you are hypocritical unrealistic idealistic and plastic. Your the ones who go to dangerous countries and walk around like your shit don't stink, complain about our soldiers fighting for our country, and get kidnapped and then after you get your head cut off everyone feels sorry for you. Fuck you!
I'm a full on local boy who enjoys da local ways and all the shitnstuff that comes with it. So, live with it, be careful how you use it, and if you don't like it, then get the fuckout.10 years in Korea with the military. 20% of all Korean women have sold their ass. I disagree. More like closer to 50%. Every freaking corner in Korea has either a double pole barber shop that fronts for sex, massage joint, booking club, "sports club, " buy me drinkie bar, coffee shop gals on bikes or some other type of business offering sex. You go to even the small towns where their are NO foreigners and selling sex is common. Even the Korean government says that the sex industry is a big part of their GNP! I'll bet you that you one out of every 3/4 Korean women in Honolulu is putting out.
A guy just pretending to be a chick just to stir up some holiday punk action?
A real bar chick who is out to correct the wrong. Your a wanna be batwoman who will bring justice to us guys talking barshit about the bar girls. If that is the case, you are in the wrong neighborhood. Except for the softer guys who will fall prey to you and become your suckers. Fortunately I was not born yesterday and you have trespassed on man turf. Or is that toooo harsh for you, awwwww poor baby. But if you are tuff enough to handle it then I guess you can hang. WHAT DO YOU GUYS SAY???????
If you are a chick I doubt you been around long enough to know about kbar history. Most important question.....R U KOREAN??????
If not then , You are not even in the same ballpark.
If you are, then are you over 40? If not then you are a babe in da woods of shitthatyoudont know.
I like the list you made. It is close to the truth. You might have some good in you, but I still dont trust you.
I come to work, enter the 'waiting section' at the bar with the other hostesses. Listen to them chit chat, talking crap about other girls then denying it in their face, how they aquired their gucci shoes not mentioning the BJ that she gave for it, and the one funny thing they all seem to have in common which irritates the hell out of me is this phrase. "oh, he was MY customer. I didn't put out so I was dropped". I'm thinking. Maybe you did put out and it stank so YOU got dropped. Whatevers. I remove myself and go for a smoke. As I come back in, the entire clan of hostesses turns to see if I was a customer with $$$$ eyes and looks away. Wow, that was scary, I wonder if guys feel the same way when they walk in, or does it make them feel special? Hmmm.
Uh oh, here comes a customer. He has just walked into the death trap. Then I hear the following irritating phrase from the rejects. So the newer ones are pushed to go or the money sucking hoes will run. Money sucking hoe wins. Then the rejects go wild with the 'acceptance' talk, "OMG, he's buying HER a drink? " Trust me gentlemen, ALL THE GIRLS watch who you sit with, which dictates what kind of man you are by the 'kind' of girl you buy drinks for. Even if it wasnt you who chose. Now you have been categorized.
Catergories of bar-men:
1. Married = good clean fun, no drama or touchy touchy
2. Single with age = did that, done that, just want companionship
3. Single with less age = cheap thrills, he thinks his 2 testicles is his IQ
4. OMG, he is HOT = I want him, I'll buy him a drink, boyfriend material
5. Dorks = everyday bar sitters, good for good luck drinks
6. Sugar Daddy's = viagra for a Prada
7. Friends = No Charge
Once you are categorized, its a done deal and you will be known for that forever unless proven otherwise, until then you are now Category #3. You come back a different night. The girls gawk and say. "Oh him, he sat with HER last time, I heard he fingered her, f**k that! " But uh oh, mama calls the new one for you this time. Newbie heard what you did and who you are. She shuts down her feelings and acts she know nothing, just make money she tells herself. But you find this one interesting, she seems a little different than the rest. You don't want to bang her but get to know her. Newbie finds you are pretty cool, too. So you have fun, exchange numbers, you go home. Newbie comes back to waiting area and reports how much drinks she got without being banged. Makes her feel special. Awwww.
Conclusion: Newbie has already 'shut down' her feelings of any further hope with you because of your category, until proven otherwise. Although she wants to pursue, she will always protect herself and be cautious just like you men do with barchicks. Therefore, you will eventually go home with blue balls.
Under my observation, these girls are in denial that they are actual bargirls. They believe, like you guys believe bargirls are out for your money, that you are here only to get p***y. They believe their vagina is of more quality than the rest, so they constantly need to confirm and reassure themselves that they are worth something. "If I do mean something to you, show me. " To be honest, there is no way a bargirl will go home with you on the real unless you are a Category #4. Otherwise, you must prove them otherwise.
See you in my next blog
P.S. I am here to be helpful, so please do not throw personal vengeance toward me.
Thank you.At first you sound like you come off as a guy. Seems like you got too much empathy or you see yourself detached from the crew or do not see yourself in the same league as them. Just an observation. But you are right all women categorize men by the women they are surrounded by. In and out of the bar. Women do love to compartmentalize things. You can see it in there eyes a lot of times when they do. It is also true about being a guy #4. I have no experience with being that guy, I admit, freely. But you need to add one more guy. Guy #8 The guy who you will eventually say "I do not know why, I love you but I do" The guy that for some compelling reason you find attraction and a strong connection with. The one you break all the rules for who is the top 3% of guys that come in here that have confidence and skill. The type that you say "WTF you just said that, or feel that to ME, the Queen of the palace, and you don't give a fuck, and are not touchy or feely. The one that makes you loose your confidence at a place you should not loose it, at work. The connoisseur AKA Real Picky. The type you eventually ask, are you really smart or just a Playboy? Just my 2 cents. Of course you might say I am wrong but the few who know, do truly know.
Hostess808
12-19-09, 10:23
A guy just pretending to be a chick just to stir up some holiday punk action?
A real bar chick who is out to correct the wrong. Your a wanna be batwoman who will bring justice to us guys talking barshit about the bar girls. If that is the case, you are in the wrong neighborhood. Except for the softer guys who will fall prey to you and become your suckers. Fortunately I was not born yesterday and you have trespassed on man turf. Or is that toooo harsh for you, awwwww poor baby. But if you are tuff enough to handle it then I guess you can hang. WHAT DO YOU GUYS SAY???????
If you are a chick I doubt you been around long enough to know about kbar history. Most important question.....R U KOREAN??????
If not then , You are not even in the same ballpark.
If you are, then are you over 40? If not then you are a babe in da woods of shitthatyoudont know.
I like the list you made. It is close to the truth. You might have some good in you, but I still dont trust you.Mr. Diablo.
I am a female, yes all female. I am Korean, michin-nom. Ballpark is what I eat for lunch. No I am not over 40, that doesn't mean I have less experience. I just see and analyze much faster than you can think with your d**k. I don't don't care if I intrude on "a mans turf", what the hell is that anyways, you've been living in your mama's "turf" half your life. Anyways. I am not batwoman, no superhero nor trying to justify crap. Think what you want, if you don't like, then move on to your next blog. If I see you comment on any of my next blogs, I will take it that you are interested.
Happy Hunting
Hostess808
12-19-09, 10:45
I'm not a barhopper but all this talk makes me want to give this side of our hobby a shot.
Thanks for your perspective...
BuckJust be careful, if you do go to a bar you never tried, let the Mama pick the girl for you. If you pick, of course your gonna want the hotter chick. Which is the money sucking hoes. Which mean, you will sit with her for 30 min and a empty wallet. You going home with blue balls AND no number.
Remember, Mama's are veterans, they are match makers.
Happy hunting
Hostess808
12-19-09, 10:53
At first you sound like you come off as a guy. Seems like you got too much empathy or you see yourself detached from the crew or do not see yourself in the same league as them. Just an observation. But you are right all women categorize men by the women they are surrounded by. In and out of the bar. Women do love to compartmentalize things. You can see it in there eyes a lot of times when they do. It is also true about being a guy #4. I have no experience with being that guy, I admit, freely. But you need to add one more guy. Guy #8 The guy who you will eventually say "I do not know why, I love you but I do" The guy that for some compelling reason you find attraction and a strong connection with. The one you break all the rules for who is the top 3% of guys that come in here that have confidence and skill. The type that you say "WTF you just said that, or feel that to ME, the Queen of the palace, and you don't give a fuck, and are not touchy or feely. The one that makes you loose your confidence at a place you should not loose it, at work. The connoisseur AKA Real Picky. The type you eventually ask, are you really smart or just a Playboy? Just my 2 cents. Of course you might say I am wrong but the few who know, do truly know.My apologies.
You are correct. I missed #8 because, in my eyes, that is a dream that has not come true. You are a true spirit.
Happy hunting
Hostess808
12-19-09, 18:27
Good Morning Gentlemen.
Some of you asked if girls talk amongst each other at the bar regarding customers. Of course they do. What do they talk about? MADE-UP CRAP. Remember, when you leave the bar, they always come back to a group of girls and 'report'. Remember now, reporting to someone makes them acknowledged for a couple of minutes. Unless they have another table, they will do it sooner or later.
SCENE: He walks in. New face customer. Everyone checks him out. Seems decent. Mama calls a girl for him. (When Mama brings the girl, you are not categorized until the bargirl comes report) So they are curious. Seriously curious. He doesn't seem touchy touchy. Bargirl got about 3 drinks so far, its not even 40 min. OMG, Who is HE! If you stay longer than expected and she does not report, soon the hyenas will.
1. Come slide by you looking for something, walking back and forth.
2. Run outside after you for a smoke to have a better look.
3. Stir up conversation with you and act like she doesn't know your sitting with her friend.
4. Come up to your bargirl at your table, whisper something in her ear, then turns to you, smiling with the helium sedated voice, "oh, I'm sorry to interrupt, but I just need to tell her something" which turns out to be Nothing. This means, look at me, I'm prettier because I have bigger boobs and a better ass then her. Your barchick just nodds and want to shoosh her away because she knows all too well herself.
5. Go ask Mama, if Mama don't know, they'll just have to wait. S**T!
You leave, bargirl comes sit, redo her makeup because she knows everyone wants to ask questions. She thinks, what shall she say.
A. You are a spender, she knows she has to compete for you next time you come, and you will come and she will lose, unless she f**ks you before then. If she plans to have sex with you incognito style, she will remain quiet and change the subject. This means to the other girls, game over.
B. You are a great customer, wanna keep ya but don't wanna do ya. So this is where she lies and says, You tried to touch her. "Oh my god, didn't you see him trying to touch my clit? Ugh, I worked for that 5 drinks! What? You didn't see that? OMG, he did it on the down-low, thats a genuine perv! " This has reduced the ratio. To the barwhores who will do anything for 5 drinks, this is the REAL competition, barchick tells them a different story. This one is a classic. She goes up to each barwhore and says.
BARCHICK: Did you know the guy I was sitting with?
BARWHORE: No, why?
BARCHICK: Oh nothing. (getting her pist even more)
BARWHORE: What! Why?
BARCHICK: I don't wanna say this, but remember that one night what you did in the room? I guess that got out and he said he heard about it and was disgusted. He says he hates girls like that. So I told him you were nice and said you were really drunk.
BARWHORE: F**k him, whatevers. (feeling like s**t, walks away from the competition.)
Conclusion: Barchick Wins. You are now categorized. But a different category in barchicks eyes, shhh, its a secret. This is how stupid gossips go around the bar. Sometimes, they make up alot of bullshit to keep you to herself. Its sad but true. I see it every day.
My Observation: I'm sure, when you walk in the bar, sometimes you get a weird stare or feel they are talking about you, they are not saying how hot you are, they are adding more to the gossip. Some people were nice, but all of a sudden, whats up with this attitude. Well, let the truth be told. To avoid this, sit at the bar in the beginning where EVERYONE see's where your hands are and the bartendar to hear & confirm your conversations.
Happy Hunting
Mr. Diablo.
I am a female, yes all female. I am Korean, michin-nom. Ballpark is what I eat for lunch. No I am not over 40, that doesn't mean I have less experience. I just see and analyze much faster than you can think with your d**k. I don't don't care if I intrude on "a mans turf", what the hell is that anyways, you've been living in your mama's "turf" half your life. Anyways. I am not batwoman, no superhero nor trying to justify crap. Think what you want, if you don't like, then move on to your next blog. If I see you comment on any of my next blogs, I will take it that you are interested.
Happy HuntingI have never posted in this section before because basically as I always say I want to know who, what, where and how much.
There is always three sides to everything, mongers side, your side and the side in the middle which is probably the correct side. I personally enjoy hearing the other side (your side) especially when it is humorus and intelligently written. Some writers show their lack of intelligent by inserting swear words for lack of a better word to use. On the other hand there are many intelligent mongers on this forum who want to show their superior intelligence. If you continue to write on this forum I would suggest writing in this section. When I look at the Korean bar section I want to see who, what, where, and how many drinks did you buy.
When I read some of the narrow minded response to your report I bite my tongue. I truely believe mongers should be supportive of each other and not respond to be picky or try to tear down other mongers to make themselves look intelligent. When I saw the disection of your report I had to stop myself from disecting the disector but this is not in the spirit of the forum.
I was the one who said earlier that you are one against hundreds. If you can withstand the battle scars and so far you have (with a sense of humor)
And also understand that you cannot win the war, continue your fight.
But basically I still want to know who, what, where, and how much.
I started this thread for the boys. But obviously you will not leave so and as I have said before, this is a free country.
If you are a guy, writing for the girls then I hope you get screwed in the ass for whom you write and learn the hard way.
If you are a chick and Jackson lets you stay on then I guess we gotta live with you.
Good Morning Gentlemen.
Some of you asked if girls talk amongst each other at the bar regarding customers. Of course they do. What do they talk about? MADE-UP CRAP. Remember, when you leave the bar, they always come back to a group of girls and 'report'. Remember now, reporting to someone makes them acknowledged for a couple of minutes. Unless they have another table, they will do it sooner or later.
SCENE: He walks in. New face customer. Everyone checks him out. Seems decent. Mama calls a girl for him. (When Mama brings the girl, you are not categorized until the bargirl comes report) So they are curious. Seriously curious. He doesn't seem touchy touchy. Bargirl got about 3 drinks so far, its not even 40 min. OMG, Who is HE! If you stay longer than expected and she does not report, soon the hyenas will.
1. Come slide by you looking for something, walking back and forth.
2. Run outside after you for a smoke to have a better look.
3. Stir up conversation with you and act like she doesn't know your sitting with her friend.
4. Come up to your bargirl at your table, whisper something in her ear, then turns to you, smiling with the helium sedated voice, "oh, I'm sorry to interrupt, but I just need to tell her something" which turns out to be Nothing. This means, look at me, I'm prettier because I have bigger boobs and a better ass then her. Your barchick just nodds and want to shoosh her away because she knows all too well herself.
5. Go ask Mama, if Mama don't know, they'll just have to wait. S**T!
You leave, bargirl comes sit, redo her makeup because she knows everyone wants to ask questions. She thinks, what shall she say.
A. You are a spender, she knows she has to compete for you next time you come, and you will come and she will lose, unless she f**ks you before then. If she plans to have sex with you incognito style, she will remain quiet and change the subject. This means to the other girls, game over.
B. You are a great customer, wanna keep ya but don't wanna do ya. So this is where she lies and says, You tried to touch her. "Oh my god, didn't you see him trying to touch my clit? Ugh, I worked for that 5 drinks! What? You didn't see that? OMG, he did it on the down-low, thats a genuine perv! " This has reduced the ratio. To the barwhores who will do anything for 5 drinks, this is the REAL competition, barchick tells them a different story. This one is a classic. She goes up to each barwhore and says.
BARCHICK: Did you know the guy I was sitting with?
BARWHORE: No, why?
BARCHICK: Oh nothing. (getting her pist even more)
BARWHORE: What! Why?
BARCHICK: I don't wanna say this, but remember that one night what you did in the room? I guess that got out and he said he heard about it and was disgusted. He says he hates girls like that. So I told him you were nice and said you were really drunk.
BARWHORE: F**k him, whatevers. (feeling like s**t, walks away from the competition.)
Conclusion: Barchick Wins. You are now categorized. But a different category in barchicks eyes, shhh, its a secret. This is how stupid gossips go around the bar. Sometimes, they make up alot of bullshit to keep you to herself. Its sad but true. I see it every day.
My Observation: I'm sure, when you walk in the bar, sometimes you get a weird stare or feel they are talking about you, they are not saying how hot you are, they are adding more to the gossip. Some people were nice, but all of a sudden, whats up with this attitude. Well, let the truth be told. To avoid this, sit at the bar in the beginning where EVERYONE see's where your hands are and the bartendar to hear & confirm your conversations.
Happy Hunting
This sounds like something that goes on in a place with a staff like Camelot. I seldom ever noticed this at the other bars.
I do know that kbgs laugh in the health clubs when comparing notes about how much they suckered a guy (emptied his wallet on drinks, outright cash from the rich ones) or cars they got as gifts, etc.
We're "categorized" according to whether or not we're spenders because this ain't no disco. As I've said, even cops don't like the looks of me. But, I bust out a 20 (and a hostess will Always peer into my wallet but I let them think I didn't notice) and all of a sudden she's treating me like I'm the Prom King where 2 seconds ago she ignored me.
Pretty much if you run out of money or don't give it away to them, you don't exist.
Just think "Un Holy".
This sounds like something that goes on in a place with a staff like Camelot. I seldom ever noticed this at the other bars.
I do know that kbgs laugh in the health clubs when comparing notes about how much they suckered a guy (emptied his wallet on drinks, outright cash from the rich ones) or cars they got as gifts, etc.
We're "categorized" according to whether or not we're spenders because this ain't no disco. As I've said, even cops don't like the looks of me. But, I bust out a 20 (and a hostess will Always peer into my wallet but I let them think I didn't notice) and all of a sudden she's treating me like I'm the Prom King where 2 seconds ago she ignored me.
Pretty much if you run out of money or don't give it away to them, you don't exist.
Just think "Un Holy".I don't think you are a hostess but a bar tender, possibly at Camelot. As a bar tender you can observe what is going down. Also, it is very difficult to grop a bar tender. You make money as a bartender because of your intelligence and beauty. I think I know who you are but if I say anything you will know who I am. The beauty of this forum is the anonymity. That's why you will never say who you are and no one will ever know who I am.
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I had posted on H808 earlier and for some reason it hasn't come out. So I'm going to try again.
For the non believers who think H808 is a man. I would like to tell you that H808 is all woman.
I got the chance to meet her and she is above average on her looks. I think she was just trying to be modest. She has luscous lips and the sexiest eyes. A great set of legs and a very beautiful voice (I hope she can sing.) She seems to be very sweet.
So if you guys want to know who she is, too bad. You guys should have never gave her a hard time.
Thumperforq
12-27-09, 17:14
I had posted on H808 earlier and for some reason it hasn't come out. So I'm going to try again.
For the non believers who think H808 is a man. I would like to tell you that H808 is all woman.
I got the chance to meet her and she is above average on her looks. I think she was just trying to be modest. She has luscous lips and the sexiest eyes. A great set of legs and a very beautiful voice (I hope she can sing.) She seems to be very sweet.
So if you guys want to know who she is, too bad. You guys should have never gave her a hard time.
That's all fine and dandy, but does she service and how much is the cost; what does she do (CBJ, BBBJ, CFS, Greek, etc.). We ain't going to see her to just have conversation, hold hands, and sing karaoke (unless she's singing to my Mr. Microphone).
I had posted on H808 earlier and for some reason it hasn't come out. So I'm going to try again.
For the non believers who think H808 is a man. I would like to tell you that H808 is all woman.
I got the chance to meet her and she is above average on her looks. I think she was just trying to be modest. She has luscous lips and the sexiest eyes. A great set of legs and a very beautiful voice (I hope she can sing.) She seems to be very sweet.
So if you guys want to know who she is, too bad. You guys should have never gave her a hard time.Dude, congratulations.
I'm happy for both of you.
When's the big day?
I had posted on H808 earlier and for some reason it hasn't come out. So I'm going to try again.
For the non believers who think H808 is a man. I would like to tell you that H808 is all woman.
I got the chance to meet her and she is above average on her looks. I think she was just trying to be modest. She has luscous lips and the sexiest eyes. A great set of legs and a very beautiful voice (I hope she can sing.) She seems to be very sweet.
So if you guys want to know who she is, too bad. You guys should have never gave her a hard time.
Why, do you think if some of us weren't hard on this personthat somehow she'd reveal herself to us? I guess there's no sense in asking you to tell us who she is and where she works right? If so then trying to tell us that she is a women and what her attributes are means very little, except to agitate us. This forum is a place where we share information, and help one another out, and then to have someone come here and post, "I got the scoops, but you guys cant have any, can only serve to alienate us, so no sense!
Dude, congratulations.
I'm happy for both of you.
When's the big day?The smile just went to a laugh.
You do have a good sense of humor.
I have informed you guys on what I know and think about **********. She is a hottie. I gained her trust to reveal herself to me and I can't go betraying that. If you guys want to meet up with her than post shit on here about her. I can guarantee you that she is still reading the posts. I'm sure she has another screen name and can send PM's.
As for you Pursuer, if that big day comes I will make sure you are the first one that I invite. Maybe you can be my best man. Don't be hatin'.
As for you Pursuer, if that big day comes I will make sure you are the first one that I invite. Maybe you can be my best man. Don't be hatin'.
Better yet, name your first born after me. :D
Good Morning Gentlemen^^
For those of you who do not like me, please move on.
I would like to "share" on this forum for those who do not know how to 'Monger' (whatever this may be).
If you go into a Kbar, scan out the ladies first instead of heading straight for a table or the bar. Walk straight to the restroom and walk around the area. Some are talking (The Newbies), some are standing (The seekers), some are playing the machines (The Veterans), some just seem out of place (The Loner). If you already know what kind of fun you are seeking that night, here are some pointers for a faster scan. Look at their clothes.
1. If you want fast action (Pick a Seeker) : It's usually the girls with the hoochiest outfit (especially no bra, see my nipples?) The semi new ones. They usually will dress nice and is always standing and walking around to be noticed. They are ready to make a deal, after all, they went through all that makeup and flattening their hairs, they will make deals.
2. Moderate action, kissing, caressing. (Pick a Newbie): They somehow look like they came straight off the Korean Drama's. All them fluffy, flowery, 2 piece ensembles. Newbies are very intimidated by the Mama. They do not want to disappoint Mama by being a 'usless hostess'. Newbies will try their best to please the Mamas' in the first trial weeks, because she is watching them. But however, newbies will not deal with you for BBJ's until seasoned. But they will perform moderate affection to satisfy you and please Mama on her first month. Then after she is promoted as Seeker.. if the shoe fits.
3. Want to be King (Pick a Veteran): Usually dressed casually. They have a nose that can smell Benjamins or Andrew Jackson's in this case, from the moment you walk in. They will serve you, praise you, compliment you, oversee minor details and take whatever they get before a Seeker finds you. These are the girls you want to flash your cash to.
Case story: This veteran sits with a new face customer. She comes to 'report' he is loaded. Buys her a reg drink at first, deals to buy her $40 Heinekens if she 'performs', she goes in the room. Comes back 30 mins later pist as hell. Apparently, he flashed his wallet so full of cash when he took out a twenty for her first drink. But he had a bunch of dollar bills in between the twenties, buys her two heinkens, had her do certain things, then she pushes for another, he shows her the dollar bills, table tips her with it and leaves the bar.
4. Incognito Action (Pick the Loner): Uncordinated outfit with a cheap purse. Just something odd about their outfit. These girls are the 'Deal for your Bucks' in my observation. They are outcasted by the house, they want to please the Mama but is never picked, they are horny as hell because they are never picked, they will be very quiet about what happens because they do not want the others to get you. Imagination is limitless.These girls will want to hold on to a customer because they dont have many they will want to please you so you will return. A little advice, dont give them your number as it is the few ones they have and they will call EVERYDAY.
Conclusion: You are not really there to obtain a relationship. Does they way they look really matter? As a hole is a hole, a hoe is a hoe, a monger is a monger. Just fun and games right?
My Observation: Even loners have great personalities but are hardly noticed. I was shocked to see what they do at the tables. It felt as if they will give their lives in exchange for attention. I have conversed about this topic with several barchicks working at different bars in different areas and they all agreed to be true. So scan the club and have fun!
Happy Hunting
O.K. Hostess411, now listen up, and i'm not gonna repeat repeat myself, if you think this is gonna end up in sex between the two of us then you're completely misguided, i'm not that type of person. I don't just give it up because you're giving us information about the bar scene, ummm um, nope, if this is your ploy then forget it and don't go around telling people that I led you on with the idea of us having sex in return for some bar info...puhleeze i'm not that cheap, and besides what would the other think of me! So i'm taking this oppurtunity to tell you straight up we're probably not having sex, is that o.k. with you? Dam by the way my yearly subscription to the advertiser is up, and I seem to be short on cash right now, boy the things i'd do for my advertiser!
Case story: This veteran sits with a new face customer. She comes to 'report' he is loaded. Buys her a reg drink at first, deals to buy her $40 Heinekens if she 'performs', she goes in the room. Comes back 30 mins later pist as hell. Apparently, he flashed his wallet so full of cash when he took out a twenty for her first drink. But he had a bunch of dollar bills in between the twenties, buys her two heinkens, had her do certain things, then she pushes for another, he shows her the dollar bills, table tips her with it and leaves the bar.
So which bar is this where a girl (a veteran) will go into the room for a half-hour for 0.4 Heinekens?
V-bars have 0.4 drinks but it's not the room and not even beer.
They follow bar rules and only go in for $$ on up, and frequently will quote $$$ in order to get dealed-down to the $$ mark. I've never seen a k-girl or v-girl drink H; usually only domestics like Miller or especially Coors. And that's if they're even drinking because that tea pitcher at the bar gets refilled Real often.
SnatchThat
12-29-09, 00:35
Yes, I can. I can CBJ,BBJ,CFS and even speak Greek if you wanted me to and then some. It would've been free, if you didnt ask how much it was.
Happy HuntingI'll go and no ask how much.
SnatchThat
12-29-09, 00:51
I had posted on H808 earlier and for some reason it hasn't come out. So I'm going to try again.
For the non believers who think H808 is a man. I would like to tell you that H808 is all woman.
I got the chance to meet her and she is above average on her looks. I think she was just trying to be modest. She has luscous lips and the sexiest eyes. A great set of legs and a very beautiful voice (I hope she can sing.) She seems to be very sweet.
So if you guys want to know who she is, too bad. You guys should have never gave her a hard time.Sure would like to meet up with her and get her some extra business.
So which bar is this where a girl (a veteran) will go into the room for a half-hour for 0.4 Heinekens?
V-bars have 0.4 drinks but it's not the room and not even beer.
They follow bar rules and only go in for $$ on up, and frequently will quote $$$ in order to get dealed-down to the $$ mark. I've never seen a k-girl or v-girl drink H; usually only domestics like Miller or especially Coors. And that's if they're even drinking because that tea pitcher at the bar gets refilled Real often.
Ahh, very good observation H Mobius, so that narrows it down a bit, we can rule out V-bars and K-bars or K-girls at least. And imo if a bar doesn't have K-girls then it cant be a K-bar, right? O.K. sooo is there any other kind of bars? Can rule out bars like mai-tai's and such, cause there ain't no hostesses, so what could it be?
Iliketowatch
12-29-09, 01:09
Good Morning Gentlemen^^
For those of you who do not like me, please move on.
I would like to "share" on this forum for those who do not know how to 'Monger' (whatever this may be).
If you go into a Kbar, scan out the ladies first instead of heading straight for a table or the bar. Walk straight to the restroom and walk around the area. Some are talking (The Newbies), some are standing (The seekers), some are playing the machines (The Veterans), some just seem out of place (The Loner). If you already know what kind of fun you are seeking that night, here are some pointers for a faster scan. Look at their clothes.
1. If you want fast action (Pick a Seeker) : It's usually the girls with the hoochiest outfit (especially no bra, see my nipples?) The semi new ones. They usually will dress nice and is always standing and walking around to be noticed. They are ready to make a deal, after all, they went through all that makeup and flattening their hairs, they will make deals.
2. Moderate action, kissing, caressing. (Pick a Newbie): They somehow look like they came straight off the Korean Drama's. All them fluffy, flowery, 2 piece ensembles. Newbies are very intimidated by the Mama. They do not want to disappoint Mama by being a 'usless hostess'. Newbies will try their best to please the Mamas' in the first trial weeks, because she is watching them. But however, newbies will not deal with you for BBJ's until seasoned. But they will perform moderate affection to satisfy you and please Mama on her first month. Then after she is promoted as Seeker.. if the shoe fits.
3. Want to be King (Pick a Veteran): Usually dressed casually. They have a nose that can smell Benjamins or Andrew Jackson's in this case, from the moment you walk in. They will serve you, praise you, compliment you, oversee minor details and take whatever they get before a Seeker finds you. These are the girls you want to flash your cash to.
Case story: This veteran sits with a new face customer. She comes to 'report' he is loaded. Buys her a reg drink at first, deals to buy her $40 Heinekens if she 'performs', she goes in the room. Comes back 30 mins later pist as hell. Apparently, he flashed his wallet so full of cash when he took out a twenty for her first drink. But he had a bunch of dollar bills in between the twenties, buys her two heinkens, had her do certain things, then she pushes for another, he shows her the dollar bills, table tips her with it and leaves the bar.
4. Incognito Action (Pick the Loner): Uncordinated outfit with a cheap purse. Just something odd about their outfit. These girls are the 'Deal for your Bucks' in my observation. They are outcasted by the house, they want to please the Mama but is never picked, they are horny as hell because they are never picked, they will be very quiet about what happens because they do not want the others to get you. Imagination is limitless.These girls will want to hold on to a customer because they dont have many they will want to please you so you will return. A little advice, dont give them your number as it is the few ones they have and they will call EVERYDAY.
Conclusion: You are not really there to obtain a relationship. Does they way they look really matter? As a hole is a hole, a hoe is a hoe, a monger is a monger. Just fun and games right?
My Observation: Even loners have great personalities but are hardly noticed. I was shocked to see what they do at the tables. It felt as if they will give their lives in exchange for attention. I have conversed about this topic with several barchicks working at different bars in different areas and they all agreed to be true. So scan the club and have fun!
Happy Hunting
The loner guys are the horny ones with crave attention.
Thumperforq
12-29-09, 02:08
Yes, I can. I can CBJ,BBJ,CFS and even speak Greek if you wanted me to and then some. It would've been free, if you didnt ask how much it was.
Happy Hunting
If you can do it, then show us; let's see it. Otherwise you are another ROB making hints and inuendos without performance.
Good Morning Gentlemen^^
For those of you who do not like me, please move on.
I would like to "share" on this forum for those who do not know how to 'Monger' (whatever this may be).
If you go into a Kbar, scan out the ladies first instead of heading straight for a table or the bar. Walk straight to the restroom and walk around the area. Some are talking (The Newbies), some are standing (The seekers), some are playing the machines (The Veterans), some just seem out of place (The Loner). If you already know what kind of fun you are seeking that night, here are some pointers for a faster scan. Look at their clothes.
1. If you want fast action (Pick a Seeker) : It's usually the girls with the hoochiest outfit (especially no bra, see my nipples?) The semi new ones. They usually will dress nice and is always standing and walking around to be noticed. They are ready to make a deal, after all, they went through all that makeup and flattening their hairs, they will make deals.
2. Moderate action, kissing, caressing. (Pick a Newbie): They somehow look like they came straight off the Korean Drama's. All them fluffy, flowery, 2 piece ensembles. Newbies are very intimidated by the Mama. They do not want to disappoint Mama by being a 'usless hostess'. Newbies will try their best to please the Mamas' in the first trial weeks, because she is watching them. But however, newbies will not deal with you for BBJ's until seasoned. But they will perform moderate affection to satisfy you and please Mama on her first month. Then after she is promoted as Seeker.. if the shoe fits.
3. Want to be King (Pick a Veteran): Usually dressed casually. They have a nose that can smell Benjamins or Andrew Jackson's in this case, from the moment you walk in. They will serve you, praise you, compliment you, oversee minor details and take whatever they get before a Seeker finds you. These are the girls you want to flash your cash to.
Case story: This veteran sits with a new face customer. She comes to 'report' he is loaded. Buys her a reg drink at first, deals to buy her $40 Heinekens if she 'performs', she goes in the room. Comes back 30 mins later pist as hell. Apparently, he flashed his wallet so full of cash when he took out a twenty for her first drink. But he had a bunch of dollar bills in between the twenties, buys her two heinkens, had her do certain things, then she pushes for another, he shows her the dollar bills, table tips her with it and leaves the bar.
4. Incognito Action (Pick the Loner): Uncordinated outfit with a cheap purse. Just something odd about their outfit. These girls are the 'Deal for your Bucks' in my observation. They are outcasted by the house, they want to please the Mama but is never picked, they are horny as hell because they are never picked, they will be very quiet about what happens because they do not want the others to get you. Imagination is limitless.These girls will want to hold on to a customer because they dont have many they will want to please you so you will return. A little advice, dont give them your number as it is the few ones they have and they will call EVERYDAY.
Conclusion: You are not really there to obtain a relationship. Does they way they look really matter? As a hole is a hole, a hoe is a hoe, a monger is a monger. Just fun and games right?
My Observation: Even loners have great personalities but are hardly noticed. I was shocked to see what they do at the tables. It felt as if they will give their lives in exchange for attention. I have conversed about this topic with several barchicks working at different bars in different areas and they all agreed to be true. So scan the club and have fun!
Happy HuntingInteresting, from the title of your report (In the corner) are you #4 incognito?
As for me I look for the most beautiful, showing the most flesh #1 (seeker). I always look for accessibility. Don't like to mess with pants, bra, panty or anything that makes it hard to get to the goodies. I love bra-less mini dress with G-string panties. If that's a #1 bring it on.
The one person as I write this that comes to mind is Kelly at Evergreen. She was #1 (to me) at Evergreen.
Ahh, very good observation H Mobius, so that narrows it down a bit, we can rule out V-bars and K-bars or K-girls at least. And imo if a bar doesn't have K-girls then it cant be a K-bar, right? O.K. sooo is there any other kind of bars? Can rule out bars like mai-tai's and such, cause there ain't no hostesses, so what could it be?Only place I Know is Chinese bars that have. 40 drinks. They will stay with you a while if it is slow. Emerald city, as well as the one hidden in Dillingham.
Yes, I can. I can CBJ,BBJ,CFS and even speak Greek if you wanted me to and then some. It would've been free, if you didnt ask how much it was.
Happy HuntingLOL!
Really?
Why are you so angry?
Relax, life is short, people are here to enjoy life!
Guys,
Dont let the hostess rattle you.
SnatchThat
12-29-09, 09:15
Yes, I can. I can CBJ,BBJ,CFS and even speak Greek if you wanted me to and then some. It would've been free, if you didnt ask how much it was.
Happy HuntingJust let me know when and where and I'll be there.
Thumperforq
12-29-09, 13:54
Conclusion: You are not really there to obtain a relationship. Does they way they look really matter? As a hole is a hole, a hoe is a hoe, a monger is a monger. Just fun and games right?
What a silly question / statement. Of course looks matter and some hoes are better than other hoes; that's why we rate you on Looks, Attitude, and Service (L/A/S) and cost. We're looking for the best bang for the buck. If you want good reviews (which should translate into more business), then provide a good overall package (L/A/S) for a good price.
Hello Kitty
12-29-09, 14:56
A little advice, don't give them your number as it is the few ones they have and they will call EVERYDAY.thats what I got. Changing my number after new years.
Conclusion: You are not really there to obtain a relationship. Does they way they look really matter? As a hole is a hole, a hoe is a hoe, a monger is a monger. Just fun and games right?I'm really there to drink the beers. My friends are for fun and games.
My Observation: Even loners have great personalities but are hardly noticed. I was shocked to see what they do at the tables. It felt as if they will give their lives in exchange for attention.they are attention wh0res. I'm one too.
Only place I Know is Chinese bars that have. 40 drinks. They will stay with you a while if it is slow. Emerald city, as well as the one hidden in Dillingham.
Was wondering about that. Emerald's was reported as having no c-girls. I went and didn't see any sort of hostess.
I once went to C'est La Vie (which is closed) back in the day but since I'm not Chinese I met no girl as they never got up from the booth; waiters carried their drinks back and forth. My understanding is one needs connections to get into these places.
Guys,
Dont let the hostess rattle you.
Sorry man. It's like dangling bananas in front of a gorilla. I know she's fulla shit but can you imagine taking a hottie in the room for those terms?
Yes, I can. I can CBJ,BBJ,CFS and even speak Greek if you wanted me to and then some. It would've been free, if you didnt ask how much it was.
Happy HuntingBetter if its bbbj and bbfs.
I have no idea what you are trying to state here.
Umm, that's funny I was just thinking the same thing as to why you are here. Cause there's no doubt that there are other women here from your profession as well as other's, but they act more like what society and I have come to expect. They normally will just sit and lurk, taking everything in and then using their intelligence to, as women would claim "outsmart" their opposites, but you on the other hand, seem to be more combative or confrontational (not physically of course) which imo is exactly what a man would do, not calling you a man (so go easy), but a person cause nothings for sure. So you come to a mongering site and put in your .02 and if yours and others differ, you don't mind telling them off, which isn't against any rule here but just remember you're on a mongering site and profess to be a female and get combative here, like you wanna win argument (this is basically a man's site), then get booted (you did get booted right, correct me if i'm wrong, hmm...like I had to ask!) from the site then reappear again only to do the same thing, doesn't that strike you as being odd, especially for a women, then you call yourself humble, humble? Is that your idea of humility, then you wonder after all that, why are people here hating on me? Hostess look inside yourself for the answers, as for those walls I don't think a person starts building them because of the bar scene, no that prolly happened long before he ever hit a bar. I will listen to what you write cause I have no ax to grind with you or women, matter of fact some of what you say are interesting, but it still doesn't change the point i've made above. Some times you gotta ask yourself do I wanna be right or happy, cause in some cases both aren't possible! So what are you really here for, honestly! As for my previous post I was just trying to get laid, you ready, and be humorous at the same time.
Jimmiedean
12-30-09, 03:48
What the hell has happened to your thread. LOL went from some hard stuff about women to a girl telling us her side. WTF haha it is the end of the world as we know it. Hey B girl tell the forum where the party is and we'll all show up and rent a room. Wearing kapalua hats like true gents. Show you what a gentleman and his walker is all about. I still love to party all night long.
Aaron Colt
12-30-09, 03:49
Good Afternoon Gentlemen
Before I start my post, I would like to say to all haters, please just move on. Again, I am not in here to solicit myself for business. I am not gorgeous nor near perfect to be the highlight in your eyes. I am sure you have come across many beautiful women, I am just a humble person. I would appreciate the opportunity to enjoy the forum as much as you. For those who find my posts useful and/or entertaining, I applaud your open mindedness.
My posts have been insinuated through my eyes of what is happening inside the K-bar scene. I would not, did not oppose the opinions of the mongers toward Kbar women. If you read and understand my posts, I do not take sides, even though I work as a bargirl. So why the hate?
Moving on, I had a question. If anyone would be kind enough to answer. If you wish not to deal with the rebutting haters, please PM me.
Understanding that most barhoppers had failed relationships with ladies that worked in a bar or have friends that flashes a warning sign at you every time. Due to this, barhoppers have a tendancy to build invisible forts or walls amongst themselves to be cautious. Doing so,
1. How do you bring yourself to meet a decent one when you are seeing the past? In other words, how do you know some are same and some are not?
2. How do you bring down those walls when it is the same bar scene that built those walls in the first place? Does meeting outside the bar to get to know her help?
3. If both parts play the role, then how does anyone know if a real thing exists or not?
Hope everyone has a great holiday. Any exciting events happening on New Years Eve? Would love to attend if there is any. =)
Happy Hunting Gentlemen!
I have the perfect guy you want to talk to. User id is indatube. You guys will get along just swell (wink, wink).
While hostess411 provided some insightful information and classification of bar girls I have my own method and classifications when I go to kb's. These are just some of the things I look for at the bars.
As hostess411 said, upon entering the bar, scan out the area and take note of the girls working. Going to the restroom will also give you an excuse to walk past and check out the girls and find out which girls are with customers. After scanning the area I will go sit at the bar, maybe a couple of chairs over from the area where the girls pick up their drinks but making sure that I can see the girls coming up for drinks. That way I can take note of the girls coming up for drinks and what they are drinking. I can also weed out the hustlers and ROB girls. These girls are the ones coming up for drinks every 5 to 10 minutes or so. My recommendation: stay away from these girls as they are there to make a quick buck off of you. You may get some quick action but your wallet will be drained in a hurry and you will be left wondering what happenned to all the $$ in your wallet. These girls are probably the seekers, dressed to get noticed wearing the sexiest outfits and showing some skin.
Take note of the other girls sitting with customers. If a girl that is/was with a customer comes up to you asking for a drink but you don't see her customer leave then pass on her for now. She is there to see how much she can get from you before going back to her customer. If you mention that she is with a customer she will probably say that he is just a friend or she is done with him. Tell her maybe later and watch where she goes. If she goes back to the customer then thank your lucky stars that you didn't waste your money on her. If she doesn't go back to the customer within 10 minutes then you know for sure that she is available depending on what she does when she has free time.
I tend to go with the girls that actually drink alcohol, even if it's watered down. The tea drinking girls can drink like fish forever and not worry about getting drunk so will keep drinking until you say uncle. The girls that drink watered down alcohol at least make the effort. Better yet, have the girl open the bottle in front of you. These girls are good because they can't drink that much or else they will get drunk or full so they can't hustle you for a lot of drinks. Newbie girls can fall for that ploy as they will try to please you so will take a drink.
When looking at the girls that are just sitting around take note of what they are doing, if they are on their phones talking then they are probably regulars talking to their friends and waiting for customers. Some of them are even phoning their regulars to visit them. I try to stay away from the regular girls as they are the professionals there.
The newbies and loners are similar in appearance, sitting in the booths looking out of place and not knowing what to do while waiting. They don't have too much designer wear or not the gaudy type of wear and jewelry. Newbies are great because many aren't well versed with the bar scene. Beware though, the good mama's will instruct the newbie girls in the art of the sale; you can tell by the amount of time before they get their second drink how informed they are. Also beware, many regular girls that move around say that they are new to the biz but you can also tell how experienced they are by how quick they go up for the second drink.
Sorry, will stop for tonight. These are JMHO and in no way gospel as YMMV, it also depends on areas such as kalihi versus kapiolani or PC where the girls act differently in each area.
I have the perfect guy you want to talk to. User id is indatube. You guys will get along just swell (wink, wink).So why am I being brought into your disagreement with the views of H411? I posted that I met H808 and that I thought she was beautiful and now I am another target. Just stop the hating and man up. Meet me and let's have some drinks and party the night away.
You are right about one thing though, we would get along swell. (Wink, wink)
Thanks for at least remembering what this thread was about. I guess some people cannot stick to their side of the fence. Comments are good but takeovers,. Find you own space. And thank you for the PM supporters.
She is just playing you all.
Only place I Know is Chinese bars that have. 40 drinks. They will stay with you a while if it is slow. Emerald city, as well as the one hidden in Dillingham.
What's the one hidden on Dillingham called?
Sorry man. It's like dangling bananas in front of a gorilla. I know she's fulla shit but can you imagine taking a hottie in the room for those terms?I can't believe that this **********/hostess411 has gained so much attention. She's the Ae equivalent of kbar girls. I don't know what's the big deal with Ae, nor 808/411. Move on, boys.
Quote from BG411: "Understanding that most barhoppers had failed relationships with ladies that worked in a bar or have friends that flashes a warning sign at you every time. Due to this, barhoppers have a tendancy to build invisible forts or walls amongst themselves to be cautious. Doing so,
1. How do you bring yourself to meet a decent one when you are seeing the past? In other words, how do you know some are same and some are not?
[They're all the same (not decent); the past, otherwise known as history, explains the causes of past events with evidence; an outward sign. Additionally, most BGs have failed relationships with people. No compassion and kindness (only lying, cheating, and stealing)].
2. How do you bring down those walls when it is the same bar scene that built those walls in the first place? Does meeting outside the bar to get to know her help?
[The "walls" should stay intact. The bar scene is entertaining, fun, and simple: go in, play the game, go home (that's it; pau)].
3. If both parts play the role, then how does anyone know if a real thing exists or not?
[Who cares. If a "real thing" exists then it should be defined. If not, it is nonexistent].
Hope everyone has a great holiday. Any exciting events happening on New Years Eve? Would love to attend if there is any. =)
Happy Hunting Gentlemen! "
[Sure]
Captin Crunch
12-30-09, 13:47
Got to agree with you Pursuer. Guys should lighten up and really read her posts. Sounds like she's reporting as an "informant" on the happenings of what goes on in the bars and in the minds of a kb working girl.
I can't believe that this **********/hostess411 has gained so much attention. She's the Ae equivalent of kbar girls. I don't know what's the big deal with Ae, nor 808/411. Move on, boys.
Iliketowatch
12-30-09, 15:24
Just dropped a cousin from L.A. with her husband off at the airport. They stayed in Waiks. She couldn't stop talking about a couple of timeshare seminars they attended to try and get cheap activity tickets. She said they are relentless once they know you have the income to qualify. I asked if they bought anything. She said no way. They'd rather just pay for the activity, why spend 25g for a free sunset cruise. I thought silently to myself, what did you expect going into a timeshare seminar? Then I made the connection to the KB's. The girls at the bars want to make money, just like the salesmen at the seminars working on commission. It's their job. The timeshare guy isn't going to just sit with you and at the end, say, here's some cruise tickets, thanks for the chat. He's going to do whatever it takes to make you spend. Sounds familiar? I've stop saying this girl is a ROB or that girl is a liar, they all are. I'll just post names of those who actually play and put out. It's a short list, unless you want to go to a room and dump cash. Next time your horny and your expectations get you furious at a bargirl's actions, just say, "Where am I?". And where should I be? (Amp)
Got to agree with you Pursuer. Guys should lighten up and really read her posts. Sounds like she's reporting as an "informant" on the happenings of what goes on in the bars and in the minds of a kb working girl.I guess you missed my point. Guys should not get hung up on this bimbo. I've stopped reading her posts, she's feeding you only one kbar girl's perspective--and if she's as exceptional as she thinks she is, it's a skewed analysis.
Yo,
Was at kaheka the other day for some xrays, took a walk and saw mama talking to former bar whr/AMP provider turned realtor Regina YHK. Found out later that she was braggin about recently getting her sugar daddy hubby (old man, literally) buy her property. Its all about the cash. Yes, I've seen this before with my buddies who've hooked up with bar/AMP chicks-more times than not girls suck you dry, leave you broke.
Just a reality check, boys.
Six of my buddies have gone through the cycle. Only one is still married, but he's moved four times in 8 years because their home wasn't nice enough.
You can take the girl out of the bar/AMP, but she still is a money sucking b.
Want a nice girl? Go to church.
Its time to play. Go to an AMP and have a good time. Or go to a bar and try to get some.
Jb
Here'S just my 2 cents on Korean Bars and Korean Bar women. I have been to many Korean Bars over the past 5-10 years. Basically, when I walk into a bar, I am just looking for some spontaneous fun and excitement. Sometimes, it can be physical with a woman or sometimes it's just a good conversation with one. Or, I could just be hanging with my friends and don't want to bother having anyone sit by me. I just want to look at the eye candy. It depends on my mood. I like to mix it up. If a girl asks to sit by me or asks if I need company, I just be professional about it and say: "Oh no, thank you but not right now. Maybe next time" I am not there looking for a gf or getting into a relationship with one.
It should be understood already that these girls are working girls and will say what they want to get a drink. It's part of their job. I'm sure if we were in their shoes, we would do the same thing as well. We have to or else how will we get by? Some girls can be too abusive when it comes to asking for a drink or getting a refill. This is were most guys would get pissed off especially when she hasn't done much as far talking or being touchy feely. I could be busy singing karaoke and one of the girls takes the empty glasses and get them refilled with ought even asking. Then, they come back to the table expecting me to pay. But, there are those who don't even ask for another drink or rush on the next drink. We could just be talking story and laughing and 1 drink can last a while. Some of them are shame to ask for another drink. I have to mention to her: "Do you want another drink? " Then she replies "Yes, thanks".
The bar women can make up stories so a guy ends up buying her more drinks. But, guys also lie about their names, their profession or whatever. I guess maybe some people don't know what to talk about and just make up any BS story just to get a conversation going. Both parties are guilty in their own right. Some of the women mention about how some guys just get all perverted on them grabbing their boobs and shoving their hand up their skirt. They show no class. I remember several girls telling me: "I know we are bar girls but, geez at least show some respect" Now, it wasn't because I been perverted on them but, some girls when they feel comfortable with you, they will open up. Just show some class and don't come off as just another perverted guy or some lonely dude looking for a gf in a hostess bar because there is a lot of these type of guys.
Some women don't mind you getting touchy feely with them, just be smooth when you do it. If they get too pushy on the drinks, I just tease them about it to slow down. I hear guys complaining about a certain girl not playing and they're pissed cause he spent an easy $100 on drinks. I'm sure we all had those. But, that's how it is though in the bar scene. Sometimes you can with some girls and sometimes you can't. Part of it being exciting in a bar is to see how far you can go with a female with the least amount of drinks you spend on her. Me and my friends use to get pissed before when these girls just be tanking down shots and they invite their other bar chick friends and ask us to buy them drinks to. Goodness. But, we know now that it's part of the game they play. Don't fall too easy when a bar chick tries and sweet talks you or rubs your thingy to get you into buying her more drinks. Some guys get this guilty feeling that they need to buy her more. I just tell them that's all the drinks I'm buying. Just be nice about it and they will get up and leave. Don't hesitate to say no or stop. If you do hesitate, then that's when they get you.
So why am I being brought into your disagreement with the views of H411? I posted that I met H808 and that I thought she was beautiful and now I am another target. Just stop the hating and man up. Meet me and let's have some drinks and party the night away.
You are right about one thing though, we would get along swell. (Wink, wink)
"So if you guys want to know who she is, too bad. You guys should have never gave her a hard time." Does this ring a bell? Oh and by the way I swear at the end of that quote there was a haaa, which was deleted, equals to " and fuck you guys". You take and take and take then you turn around and bite! If you didn't want to or couldn't share your information then you shouldn't have said a thing! And you wonder why? Braddah that ain't the only thing, if you listen to what they are saying you wouldn't be wondering?
Was wondering about that. Emerald's was reported as having no c-girls. I went and didn't see any sort of hostess.
I once went to C'est La Vie (which is closed) back in the day but since I'm not Chinese I met no girl as they never got up from the booth; waiters carried their drinks back and forth. My understanding is one needs connections to get into these places.Have not been to Emearald City in a while, but they had at least 6 of them. Could be because they were in the rooms. Chinese like to drink in the rooms. The one in Dillingham you need connections. Also I was introduced to Sela Ve via my Chinese friends. My opinion on these places is that if you want a relationship, kind of hard. But if you get to know them well you can probable ask to go out with them for $$$$. Just my observations!
Member #3973
12-31-09, 00:15
I actually find Hostess411 posts to be an interesting addition to the discussion of K-bars. Why not get the other sides perspective?
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Understanding that most barhoppers had failed relationships with ladies that worked in a bar or have friends that flashes a warning sign at you every time. Due to this, barhoppers have a tendancy to build invisible forts or walls amongst themselves to be cautious. Doing so,
1. How do you bring yourself to meet a decent one when you are seeing the past? In other words, how do you know some are same and some are not?
I doubt that MOST bar patrons have failed relationships with bar girls. Just occasionally bad experiences. We have all met girls that promise services, but don't beliver or hint they want to take you home but bail out before closing. We know that the girls are there to make money, and they know we are there for play. But some times we meet girl that really seems like girls you would not mind dating. Unfortunately it is impossible to tell if it is just a good sales pitch or if they actually are interested.
2. How do you bring down those walls when it is the same bar scene that built those walls in the first place? Does meeting outside the bar to get to know her help?
Meeting outside is essential if you consider a relationship with bar girls. And it should not involve any significant amount of money. Simple.
3. If both parts play the role, then how does anyone know if a real thing exists or not?
It is incredible hard to know when a bar girl is just professional friendly or
acting like a "real" friend. When she starts treating you like a bf - giving you
a hard time - complaining and demanding your time rather than money, you know it is real :-P
Hope everyone has a great holiday. Any exciting events happening on New Years Eve? Would love to attend if there is any. =)
Happy New Year
I totally agree!
I doubt that MOST bar patrons have failed relationships with bar girls. Just occasionally bad experiences. We have all met girls that promise services, but don't beliver or hint they want to take you home but bail out before closing. We know that the girls are there to make money, and they know we are there for play. But some times we meet girl that really seems like girls you would not mind dating. Unfortunately it is impossible to tell if it is just a good sales pitch or if they actually are interested.
Meeting outside is essential if you consider a relationship with bar girls. And it should not involve any significant amount of money. Simple.
It is incredible hard to know when a bar girl is just professional friendly or acting like a "real" friend. When she starts treating you like a bf. Giving you a hard time. Complaining and demanding your time rather than money, you know it is real.
Happy New Year[/QUOTE]
Spermacide
12-31-09, 05:05
I actually find Hostess411 posts to be an interesting addition to the discussion of K-bars. Why not get the other sides perspective
Direct from the FAQ. What is the purpose of this Forum?
"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women."
She doesn't belong here period!
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I'm wondering where the violation is. There are a few other members who are in violation of this forum. Calling me an aku bird was a way to belittle me.
I did not read anywhere that says that this forum was made for only men to post. She has provided us with information.
I have a way that we can solve our differences. Let's all meet up and have some drinks.
Direct from the FAQ. What is the purpose of this Forum?
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She doesn't belong here period!
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Aaron Colt
12-31-09, 05:48
So why am I being brought into your disagreement with the views of H411? I posted that I met H808 and that I thought she was beautiful and now I am another target. Just stop the hating and man up. Meet me and let's have some drinks and party the night away.
You are right about one thing though, we would get along swell. (Wink, wink)
Nah, I not hating on you. Just bringing attention to your poor judgement and limited thought process. Man up? Yah, you already showed us your ability to man up. What was it?
"The only way I could convince her to meet me was to give her my word that I would not reveal her identity. I will say that if you guys could find her she is very beautiful.
That's all I git to say guys. Yes, I am selfish." The purpose of the forum is to share experiences (i.e. pictures, stories etc). Man up? Yah, I wouldnt quite say you did that. I just calling you out for the buttercup you are.
It was made for men to discuss the mind of a Korean working girl.
SnatchThat
12-31-09, 09:03
Her grammar is way to good to be BG, plus it's straightforward and though out and numbered. It uses logic and reason traits we all know don't belong to a woman at all. I think it is guy who likes to pretend he is a girl because they have that psychological disorder where they like to be wolves in sheeps clothing. I think any BG would not have the ability to sign up for an account much less know how to post on it. Therefore, my conclusions is safe and sound to suggest a male seeking excitement posing as a female to stir things up.
Most BG have soso relationships where they try to buy the guy they like all the things he likes to keep him around. Sound familiar, they take the money men give them and give it to another guy to keep the one they want around. Watch tales of a geisha, she entertains older men but really wants that younger one.
All in all the simple truth lies down that BGs want money to support the habits that the have.
Spermacide
12-31-09, 11:34
I'm wondering where the violation is. There are a few other members who are in violation of this forum. Calling me an aku bird was a way to belittle me.
I did not read anywhere that says that this forum was made for only men to post. She has provided us with information.
I have a way that we can solve our differences. Let's all meet up and have some drinks.
"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between MEN who are looking for sex with women."
OPEN YOUR EYES! It say is for "MEN" not Women!
Aaron Colt
12-31-09, 12:49
Aaron, Sperm, etc.. all whiners. Stop your whining. Move on. It seems like your yourselves are missing the rule of the forum. Its not called usawhiners.info. Let the other half be, you yourselfs do what you gotta do. End of discussion. Ignore it. Ignorance is bliss. Or get a life or get some action. Obviously you aint gettin none. Let it be.
You interested in a gang bang? Can be many or just me. Let me know what amp you want me to visit you at and we'll have some fun.
Captin Crunch
12-31-09, 13:31
Aaron, wanna go on a Hostess hunt? Let's meet up and look for her. Sperm and others, wanna join us? When and where shall we start?
You interested in a gang bang? Can be many or just me. Let me know what amp you want me to visit you at and we'll have some fun.
I'm wondering where the violation is. There are a few other members who are in violation of this forum. Calling me an aku bird was a way to belittle me.
I did not read anywhere that says that this forum was made for only men to post. She has provided us with information.
I have a way that we can solve our differences. Let's all meet up and have some drinks."The only way I could convince her to meet me was to give her my word that I would not reveal her identity."
Was calling you whipped belittling? ooops. sorry, my bad.
You interested in a gang bang? Can be many or just me. Let me know what amp you want me to visit you at and we'll have some fun.
AC, I'm sorry but I just have to make fun of this (not an attack on you). I'm pretty sure a gang bang with just you is not a gang bang. I know what you meant. But I just thought I'd get a little laugh here with all this tension here.
I leave for about a year and come back and there's aggression everywhere. Inatube, all AC was trying to say is be a team player. We all know why we come here. To share knowledge. Everyone else, stop jumping on Inatube's back. We should just continue to contribute (although I haven't since I have been out of the scene for over a year now) and learn through others' experience. Don't offend and don't be offended.
Now let's all have a group hug. Not with each other, but with our providers
Aaron, wanna go on a Hostess hunt? Let's meet up and look for her. Sperm and others, wanna join us? When and where shall we start?
Hmm...I don't know sounds like Sperms already been there!
Now let's all have a group hug. Not with each other, but with our providersI'm all for grope hugs. I mean group hugs. With groping.
I'm not sure why this thread exists? What's to know? She wants to get paid and we want to get laid. If you keep that in mind, it'll protect you from a broken heart and an empty wallet that comes from pursuing something that isn't there and has no chance of being there.
Sometimes I think we get confused as to where we are, who they are and what we are. We are hobbyists they are providers and we meet them while they are at work. So let us go forward in our hobby, enjoy it, drink with women, watch them dance naked in front of you, and fuck them as much as energy and rescources will permit but never allow yourself to believe that they can be your wife or your girlfriend. It's stretch to believe that they can even be your buddy.
Enjoy the hobby as it should be enjoyed: with no strings attached.
Member #3969
12-31-09, 21:08
You're the one talking about the rules? You yourself just broke a MAJOR rule by threatening to expose the person's "real identity" not once but twice?
A beat it or I'll reveal your true identity... :)
Everyone, just ignore her! Yeah, the purpose of this forum is clear!
"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between Men who are looking for sex with women."
You say you are a kb girl, so you have no business lurking on this forum period! Read the rules! Maybe you can hangout and blog at ivillage!
"IGNORE Button has been pressed!" Unless you want your identity PMed to every member! The choice is yours!
Guys, if she makes 1 more post just PM me.
Thumperforq
12-31-09, 23:42
Aaron, wanna go on a Hostess hunt? Let's meet up and look for her. Sperm and others, wanna join us? When and where shall we start?
She's at Cleopatra or One to Go in Kalihi.
AC, I'm sorry but I just have to make fun of this (not an attack on you). I'm pretty sure a gang bang with just you is not a gang bang. I know what you meant. But I just thought I'd get a little laugh here with all this tension here.Glad to have you back on the forum. Keep the peace.
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