Supereloquent's Reports - Philadelphia [Archive] - Page 6

Supereloquent

02-24-10, 17:46

I was trolling the K prior to this next announced snowstorm, hoping to find a long, fun, indoor date before hibernating for a few days again. I spotted Elektra on the north end of the stroll. For a minute I thought it might be Sabrina sporting a new hairdo, because the height and shape seemed to match up, and you can usually find Sabrina on the north end, although I haven’t seen her around for quite a while. When I got closer it was evident to me that this wasn’t Sabrina, but Elektra's big bright smile, sassy hand on one hip, and Gothic hairstyle and makeup attracted me. Plus, it was clear even though she was wearing a thick winter coat, that she had big tits. I am not necessarily a breast man, but I wouldn’t refuse some large, well formed titties either. Elektra pushed her ass out sideways cutely, and stuck out her tongue teasingly and grabbed one tit when she met my gaze. I just love a girl who is playfully impish like that. It almost always predicts an enjoyable date. Besides, I was in the mood for a fun, young chubby girl. Every one I have experienced yet was a great date, and were excellent fuckers and cock suckers and went out of their way to please.

Elektra was a chatterbox on the way to the hotel. I think I got her whole life story. She said she was 19, and had been dancing at various places since she left home at 16, lying about her age. Elektra was her dancing name. She certainly seemed a lot more mature than 19. She wasn’t hardened or jaded, just street wise, but pleasant nonetheless. She said she got out on the Ave every now and then to help pay the bills. Her tits were almost bulging out of her coat and, just for fun, I had her open her coat and pull up her top and bra to show me those puppies. I was pulled over at the time and felt them with both hands and gave one nipple a long suck. She giggled and said she loved her tits played with and sucked; it turned her on. I explained that I wanted to go to a nice hotel, take a lot of sexy pics , cum a bunch and spend a lot of fun time in the room, maybe even get some food and drink. She said she loved to pose, and she especially loved to suck cock and fuck, and she was hungry and thirsty, so that was all cool with her. I picked up some fast food window takeout on the way for us to munch on and drink on the way to the hotel. She never brought up price or any details. I don’t think it was because she was innocent, inexperienced or naïve. I think it was quite the opposite: that her street radar was correctly telling her that not only would it be fun, but that I would treat her fairly.

When she took her clothes off it was amazing how much her body type was like Sabrina’s, sans all the tats. She had a pretty face, and I dug the dark eye shadow, punky short black hair, belly button piercing, small heart tat on her right tit and large tat on her left shoulder. She was a bit flabby around the belly, but had big luscious tits with ample aereolae and perky pink eraser nips, and the roundest and most sexy ass, and a pretty pink trimmed pussy.

After we had taken a bunch of pics, she was checking her eye makeup in the mirror and I walked up naked behind her, reached my hands around to play with her tits and nipples and slid my cock up between her ass-crack and started rubbing up and down. It was hot to see her response in the mirror and I got really hard. I told her to suck on my fingers to show me how she was going to suck my cock like a good little sl*ut. She giggled and said she really liked dirty talk, that it turned her on. She was sucking on my fingers, first one, then two, then three , then all four. I had my whole hand all the way to the back of her throat. She hardly even had a gag reflex and I knew she would easily be able to DT me. I told her to stay there at the mirror and I got 2 vibrators and a rubber. I laid the rubber on the counter and told her to spread her legs wide. I had her suck my fingers again, and slid one vibrator up her cu*nt with the other hand from behind. She gave out a little squeal and started sucking on my hand harder. My cock was sliding up and down on her ass-crack as I frigged her underneath that with the vibrator and kept my hand in her mouth. “You want to be a bad little cum piggie, don’t you?” She nodded her head and screeched a few more times. “Tell Daddy you want to be a naughty cum piggie.” I slipped my hand out of her mouth and she half gasped and half hissed,” I wanna be Daddy’s naughty cum piggie.” Just then I slid the other vibrator up her ass and she let out a scream of delight and her whole body started to shiver. “Take Daddy’s toys like a nasty little fuck pig.” She started to convulse as she said, “OMFG….fuck me Daddy….fuck me hard with those toys….OMG….OMG…OMG … fuck…. shit… fuck… uhhhhhhhhh… make piggie cum, Daddy.” She screamed as she said….” FUCK….OMFG…. I’m cummmmming!” I slid out the toys and her arms slumped forward on the counter as she twisted up her legs together and she said, “Damn that was good! I know you probably think I’m BSing you but I never played with toys before. FUCK was that fun!”

I was really excited and hot from all that sexual tension and I said, “Now it’s Daddy’s turn to feel good. Get on your knees and suck me hard like a good little piggie.” She knelt and hungrily devoured my cock. As I predicted, she could take me all the way down with no trouble at all and suck me for a long time right at the root. She made sloppy wet sucking sounds and licked and kissed the head after a long slow suck upward. Then she would flicker her tongue all the way to my balls and flicker her tongue there for a while before making her way to the top again and plunging down in a quick motion until my cock was buried in her throat where she was expertly using her mouth, throat and swirling tongue. I was talking filthy dirty the whole time, and she was looking up at me with those big sexy eyes, and responding in kind whenever she came up for air. This was a Class A BBBJ, which went on for a good 15-20 minutes, but I just wanted to fuck her from behind as I watched and slapped the round ass I had seen bent over at the sink when I was frigging her with the toys. I told her to bend over the sink and spread wide and I rubbered up and slid in standing doggie. She was all wet from the playing and I could hear her pussy squish with every thrust. She grabbed the counter and I grabbed her ass at the hips and pounded away, my balls slapping up against her ass with every poke. I let go of my grip and grabbed her short hair with one hand and pulled it back. She said. “Yes, pull my hair while you fuck me! Spank my ass.” I didn’t need to be told twice. I spanked her as I held her hair and shoved my dick in over and over. What a delectably soft cushion of flesh her ass was. It jiggled with each slap and was turning a light crimson color as I slapped it. She kept screaming for me to pull her hair and spank her ....hard…and that was so arousing. It was very exciting to see and spank her ass, pull her hair and watch her tits shake and her facial reactions in the mirror. I blasted a load way before I wanted to, but it was a strong one that lifted me right up off my toes.

We lay for a while afterward in bed, talking and cuddling. When I recovered, I knew I wanted some more totally uninterrupted sucking. I told her I wanted her to get me off and then just keep sucking until she got me off a second time. She smiled as if it were some erotic challenge. I lay back and just watched her slowly and artfully blow me again. She was incredible, as before, and got me to squirt again in about 15 minutes, Then she licked me all clean, licked her lips and started all over again, taking obvious pride and delight in getting me as hard again as fast again as she could so she could swallow another load. This one lasted longer and I was able to more thoroughly enjoy it. She must have tried to tap me for a good 30 minutes, with no complaints, no hurries and a continued terrific technique. I finally arched my back and spurted again into her mouth and she giggled and swallowed and cleaned me up with her tongue.

It was time to get some food and we went to a small nearby restaurant and sat down inside for a meal. We had a very pleasant conversation over dinner, and she told me she was really having fun and that it was also nice to take a break. She politely thanked me for the meal and we headed back to the room.

I was ready for more action and I had her lie on her back. I have a big and powerful vibrator that makes women scream when I use it on their clits. You can get a glimpse of it in some of my pics. Elektra had shown she really enjoyed sex so my thought was to get her really excited with the vibrator until she was screaming and cumming and wet, and then fuck the ever loving shit out of her in as many positions as I could. I used the vibrator on her clit and sucked on her nipples. She got really nasty and was squirming and said, “Yah, suck on ‘em hard, bite ‘em,” which I did as she moaned and screamed. She was wriggling all over the bed and talking dirty and telling me to make her cum like a dirty little piggie. I told her to tell me to bite her nipple every time she was ready to cum and say FUCK real loud when she did. She would tell me to bite her and scream “FUCK… FUCK… FUCK…” as she came and her eyes almost rolled back in her head. Then she would get ready for more. She came several times very loud like that. She liked the vibrator so much that she wanted to take it home with her. (She is hardly the first in that regard. It really is almost magical.) I told her I would give her round two on the vibrator if she fucked me silly. Well that was an easy bargain and she fucked me in every position imaginable; mish, sideways, CG, RCG, doggie, standing doggie (again). She made an extra special effort to talk really dirty because she was now aware how very much I liked it. What a fun time to fuck a nymphet who really enjoys sex and is motivated to do her absolute best to please you. I had 2 more cups of fucking and played with her using that vibrator until she screamed her head off. If I had given that to her, as she begged me to do several times, I am sure I could have negotiated a lifetime of free fucking and sucking…LOL.

Ratings? Face: 4 stars (chubby but pretty; a little nicer nose and some blemish cream would have made it quite attractive); Body: 4 stars (a little belly flab, but really attractive for a chubby gal; very nice tits, the Goth look is a turn on for me; the ass and pussy are divine); BJ: 5 stars; Fucking: 5 stars; Attitude: 5 stars; Overall; 5 stars; Repeatable? Most Definitely. YMMV

Supereloquent

02-24-10, 17:50

Chubby but very sexily cute.

Elektra17 is my favorite. Yeah, Cookie, that shot was inspired by a similar shot you took of cute Nicole.

Supereloquent

02-24-10, 17:53

What can I say? I loved the tits, ass and pussy and her fingering herself and playing with a dildo.

Supereloquent

02-24-10, 17:57

More than I usually show, but, hey, I love the sexiness, especially the face closeups, her sucking on her fingers and the facial expressions as she cums on her dildo.

Supereloquent

02-24-10, 17:58

I have a LOT more but 10 pics are enough to end this series HOTLY!

Harry Gant

02-24-10, 18:43

What was the damage may I ask for such a great day?

Joe Someone

02-24-10, 20:39

Fantastic pics. She is a real keeper. Looks like she was a lot of fun.

She almost has me thinking road trip.

Supereloquent

02-24-10, 22:11

Still kicking myself for not getting some pics of her flashing her boobs.

You wanted Alexus flashing her tits? Here you go. And now that I see that she is no longer shy about BJ pics, I may as well publish mine too.

Supereloquent

02-24-10, 22:33

Ficdon's latest report and pics of Alexus prompted me to dust off the remaining pics I never published of her, including the BJ pics now that I see she is no longer shy about showing off her sucking prowess.

Supereloquent

02-24-10, 22:36

Nude, spread, sucking on her tit and sucking on my cock.

Supereloquent

02-24-10, 22:39

It was fun to watch all the moving and jiggling parts: earrings, piercings, tongue, mouth and tits.

Supereloquent

02-24-10, 22:41

More moving parts, and her mouth buried on my cock right to the hilt...YUM.

Ignacus

02-24-10, 23:32

Who stapled her face?

You wanted Alexus flashing her tits? Here you go. And now that I see that she is no longer shy about BJ pics, I may as well publish mine too.

Supereloquent

02-24-10, 23:45

Who stapled her face?

I hope you were just kidding. Otherwise you either need to get new glasses and/or get a clue about nose and lip piercings.

Cls9637

02-25-10, 05:43

I have a LOT more but 10 pics are enough to end this series HOTLY!Those are some awesome pictures. Makes me want to travel a little north. One question: How come in some photos the tattoo is on her right boob, and sometimes on her left? Just askin'.

Supereloquent

02-25-10, 12:07

...my real reason for posting now is the unbelievable contrast, via photos of course, of Alexus when she hit the scene. And the current report of her now. WTF. Wow. I can't believe the short term effects that that shit has on them. She went from. In my opinion. Porn star to you know what in less then. What? 3-4 months? Shorter? Don't get me wrong. Etc. Etc. LOL.

Maybe it was the five straight days she was up? Duh. LOL.

Alexus is a self-admitted heroin junkie. There is a time effect of that, but her haggard look in the most recent photos by Ficdon probably has more to do with her current roller coaster state of addiction than merely missing her beauty rest, although the two could have been related. Some girls manage their habits and some girls' habits manage them. Heroin in particular is a very tough habit to manage. Drugs are a sad reality on the K. However, the ready availability of drugs is the primary reason there is a steady supply of SWs who need to feed their addictions, and the collateral SWs just looking to make some extra dough, who become aware of the sex for money transaction possibilities on the strolls. The availability and need for drugs sets the stage for street-walking to exist where it does. It opens the "store" and it sets the price ranges. Without drugs we likely would have no strolls in Philly, or at least the strolls would be a mere shadow of themselves, and there wouldn't be much hope for a meaningful mongering hobby. We have Yin and Yang on the Ave.

Ficdon

02-25-10, 13:40

Great pics of Alexus!

Supereloquent

02-25-10, 14:41

Well she looks a hell of a lot better than I would after 5 days with no sleep. Also, her attitude was outstanding despite this. Even though she did limit activities somewhat she was very nice about it. I hate girls with an attitude.

There is no need to be defensive. I wasn't coming down on your report or how she looked or acted. Alexus has been hit or miss and mostly lukewarm with several mongers reporting on her over the past few months, so I am glad you had a fun time with her and that her attitude was good. YMMV always applies. However, "limiting her activities" in one way or another has unfortunately recently become her standard MO.

As far as her not taking off her shirt: it looks like the hotel room was above the quality of a 10 spot or the Carlyle and you likely had better heat in the room than that, at least enough for you to eat first as the room warmed up and then get naked? Therefore, her excuse that she was "cold" and that little shirt was keeping her warm, just doesn't seem to ring true. My guess would be that, since the shirt was long sleeved, that she had some recent grisly needle tracks on her arms. That would seem to coincide with her haggard face and vacant stare. It probably wasn't only from missing a few days sleep.

Hey, it is what it is.

Vegas Black

02-25-10, 16:20

That electra is anice piece of ass.

Thanks supereloquent for sharing.

Ed Norton

02-25-10, 17:54

Please learn to spell, and when to use proper punctuation (would it kill you to use commas when you employ an absolute introductory adjective or independent clauses?); it is getting ridiculous reading your misspellings and bad grammar every time you post and do your "contibuting."

Also, get a clue about plural versus possessive (Newbie's?), and your continual "overblown" use of capitalization. Your 5th grade teacher must really be proud.Only a poster named "Supereloquent" can get away with such grammar lessons! (grin).I'm grinning too, Cephlapod. Did you catch Super's misuse of the word "whom" a while back? Some guy posted a lengthy analysis here. The analysis was correct (Super didn't "get" the difference between active and passive usage). Trust me, I've taught that stuff.

Oh, and about that problem of plural versus possessive: here's another recent example of incorrect usage.
Coming from you Cooky that is high praise indeed.

Being an equal opportunity monger has it's [sic] perks.LOL. Oh well, who cares. Do as he does, not as he writes. Pussy is what counts, and we all enjoy pussy, actively or passively.

Supereloquent

02-25-10, 23:48

None of these girls seems want to drink alcohol but they smoke and do everything else...does alcohol not mix with drugs? So funny to see them drinking lemonade or Gatorade or chocolate milk with all the other shit they're putting in their body.

I have noticed that too. Whenever I have offered to get some wine, beer, or liquor and mixers to take with us to the room the answer was always no. They prefer the stuff you mentioned and soda. Go figure.

Supereloquent

02-26-10, 11:15

I'm grinning too, Cephlapod. Did you catch Super's misuse of the word "whom" a while back? Some guy posted a lengthy analysis here. The analysis was correct (Super didn't "get" the difference between active and passive usage). Trust me, I've taught that stuff.
Oh well, who cares. Do as he does, not as he writes.If you "don't care" then why mention it? I have about 950 posts (with many very long reports), including almost 1500 pics, and the only thing YOU have to focus on are 2 grammar mistakes? I am sure I make a few typos and mistakes, and have a brain fart here and there, but at least they are mostly in the process of sharing useful information. Contrast that to newbie Pedey who made errors in both sentences of a two sentence rock throwing post. Pedey continues to show us his intellectual prowess by making multiple errors in virtually every post he makes, and rarely has anything useful to contribute. Pedey's spelling and grammar are about as limp as his dick; he is a much more fertile ground for your "teaching the stuff," if you are looking for a deserving student in this forum.

But enough nit picking for the present. One could spend ones whole life correcting spelling and grammar in the Philly forum alone. I reserve my grammar and spelling tirades for attackers; it puts a nice barb on the spear when I return it to the sender, don'tcha think? :D

Pussy is what counts, and we all enjoy pussy, actively or passively.Like you said, pussy is the name of the game: active or passive, past or present, plural or possessive.

Supereloquent

02-26-10, 11:25

Those are some awesome pictures. Makes me want to travel a little north. One question: How come in some photos the tattoo is on her right boob, and sometimes on her left? Just askin'.Thanks for your appreciation of the photos. She is worth a trip north. In my experience, chubbies can be just as much sexual fun as spinners and hourglasses.

To answer your question: she is a Gothic sorceress and can make her tattoos appear wherever she wants. :D Think about it a bit; photographic software allows one to mirror flip the image; sometimes I do that if it results in better composition, and sometimes it just happens by mistake when I rotate an image from vertical to horizontal or vice versa, so it isn't lying on its side as you sometimes see photos on here from contributors who don't know how to fix that.

StormRanger

02-26-10, 15:59

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So get off of the complaints. As long as I can understand and enjoy the post, I just don't care. Super is great, do don't hate... lol

If you like teaching spelling and grammar, do it at a school - not here.

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Originally Posted by Ed Norton
I'm grinning too, Cephlapod. Did you catch Super's misuse of the word "whom" a while back? Some guy posted a lengthy analysis here. The analysis was correct (Super didn't "get" the difference between active and passive usage). Trust me, I've taught that stuff.

Cls9637

02-27-10, 06:28

No doubt chubbies can be a lot of fun. See some of the pictures I have in the Baltimore Streetwalker Reports! We could trade.

Thanks for your appreciation of the photos. She is worth a trip north. In my experience, chubbies can be just as much sexual fun as spinners and hourglasses.

To answer your question: she is a Gothic sorceress and can make her tattoos appear wherever she wants. :D Think about it a bit; photographic software allows one to mirror flip the image; sometimes I do that if it results in better composition, and sometimes it just happens by mistake when I rotate an image from vertical to horizontal or vice versa, so it isn't lying on its side as you sometimes see photos on here from contributors who don't know how to fix that.

CookyJar

02-27-10, 09:07

Originally I had something smart and cool to say about Elektra. In a senior moment, I’ve forgotten what it was I wanted to say.

Any who. Finding a big girl like Elektra (or Sabrina) can be just as exciting as finding a cool spinner. Finding a big girl with a nice body is rare indeed and may be even rarer than finding a spinner on the “K.” Big tits aside, it is nice having a plump ass to squeeze, thick thighs to roam and a phat pussy to plow. And, let us not forget the cute face. Even if you are not really into the big girls, it’s nice to be able to do one every once in awhile. Viva la difference.

CookyJar

Chubby but very sexily cute.

Elektra17 is my favorite. Yeah, Cookie, that shot was inspired by a similar shot you took of cute Nicole.Elektra #17 is nice, no doubt about it. But, I’ve got to say, I am partial to Elektra 12 & 19 – both of which show off the girl’s true beauty, big girl or not. IMHO.

CookyJar

Supereloquent

02-27-10, 12:14

Finding a big girl like Elektra (or Sabrina) can be just as exciting as finding a cool spinner. Finding a big girl with a nice body is rare indeed and may be even rarer than finding a spinner on the “K.” Big tits aside, it is nice having a plump ass to squeeze, thick thighs to roam and a phat pussy to plow. And, let us not forget the cute face. Even if you are not really into the big girls, it’s nice to be able to do one every once in awhile. Viva la difference.I concur with everything you have said, and would add that big girls usually suck cock great and have a terrific attitude. They typically are very willing to please.

As you said, it is so nice to try something different. There are very few SWs on the Ave with whom I am so infatuated that I would seek them out every time. Variety is the spice of life, especially where sex is concerned, even at the expense of an occasional bad experience when seeking something new.

Elektra #17 is nice, no doubt about it. But, I’ve got to say, I am partial to Elektra 12 & 19 – both of which show off the girl’s true beauty, big girl or not. IMHO.I would have to agree with your keen, observant, photographer's eye. As I recall, I didn't even "direct" those shots; they were just Elektra free forming and being herself. Big girl or not, she had a delightful natural posing talent.

Dirty Deluxe

02-27-10, 19:08

Here Here,

This monger is exclusively into big SWs. OYR is often a fertile hunting ground for said game. I've had many, many a date withOYR/HP BSWs that ranged from sweetly rounded to frankly fat. Sometimes you have to do a little hide and seek to flush them out.

Admin

03-01-10, 13:58

If you read the forum rules, they specifically say:

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Hi StormRanger,

Don't get the wrong idea.

Just because I do not have the time to correct bad grammar or poor spelling does release forum contributors from their obligation to write well and spell correctly.

Thanks,

Jackson

Supereloquent

03-03-10, 20:06

I already had a motel room rented for a previous date when I spotted Katie, a block back from the north end of the stroll. She wasn’t the cutest SW I had ever seen but looked passable enough otherwise, and I was in the mood to try someone new. Besides, my street radar was telling me she would be fun. The main risk you run in trying a new SW in the winter, when they are all bundled up, is that the body is far below your expectations. So, after we had driven for a while, I pulled over under the guise that I wanted to check her out and make sure she wasn’t LE, and had her show me the goods, top and bottom. Her tits were a pleasant surprise, very nice indeed, especially on such a thin frame. She had a little pot belly but nothing terrible, and no stretch marks or scars. I didn’t ask, but my suspicion was that she was a few months preggers.

On the way to the motel we had a chance to have a long conversation. She said she didn’t do this much and hadn’t been doing it long (I didn’t believe her). Her story was that she had been working in a small business, and the owner gave her job away to one of his relatives and, because he had been paying her cash under the table, and she didn’t qualify for unemployment, so she was making some extra cash on the Ave. She kept nodding off in the car and I noticed telltale black and blue marks on her arm when she undressed. She saw me staring at them and said she had once been a heroin user but now was on a methadone program (I didn’t believe this either.)

I asked if she sucked cock good and, of course, she claimed she was excellent at it (which turned out to be true). I mentioned that we were going to a nice motel to take some sexy pics and for a few cups of fun. There was no discussion otherwise about specifically what we were doing, or pricing. I suppose that, given this, she either was relatively new to this as she claimed, or just had a correct street sense that she would be OK and compensated fairly if she performed as advertised.

When I was taking her pics it made perfect sense that an Irish shamrock tattoo just above her groin went ideally well with a good Irish name like Katie.

Katie had a very nice BBBJ technique. She couldn’t take me DT but she would take me as far down her throat as she could, gag on me and come up for air. That was really hot. Big strings of spit would run down her chin and to my cock as she did this, making it hotter yet. I tried to get some pics of this but the strings were momentary and she would quickly slurp them back up again and keep sucking me as deep as she could. I could see her eyes looking up at me as if seeking approval , and I grabbed her hair in a tuft, pushed her head up and down on my cock, and talked dirty to her, especially as she gagged on me: “Yeah, that’s it, suck me deep and gag on my cock like a naughty sl*ut; be a nasty cum piggie; do you want some nice hot cum?” She kept this up for a good 15 minutes or so and then I shot a load down her throat. She gagged a little but she swallowed it and licked me off and then licked her lips and chin and got every drop and dribble.

“Now, do it again, piggie. Daddy has another load for you. Suck my cock and make it squirt." And she began the motions all over again. This time I had her lick my balls and the underside of my cock like she was licking a popsicle, and then suck down and then up again in a rhythm I controlled by grabbing her head in both hands and fucking her mouth. She didn’t use her tongue and hands as well as she might, but her mouth had great suction. At one point I just lay there and bent my knees and spread wide and used both hands to hold her head down on me until she gagged, and then I would let her up again. After she caught her breath I would grab her head again and force her mouth down on me until she gagged again. I would move her head up and down on my cock until I was hearing a glug-glug-glug noise in her mouth and throat, then the gag, then a breath, then start it all over again. Since I had already just cum I was able to keep this up for a good 30 minutes or so and her face was red, and she was gasping desperately for breath every time I let her head come up for air, and spit strings would flow from her mouth and lips. I finally held her head down on me and blasted another load down her throat, which she gagged on and almost spit up. But she swallowed it, cleaned me up and used her fingers to clean the cum off her face where it had leaked out and then licked her fingers clean.

We had picked up some oriental takeout on the way and fortunately the room had a microwave because it was already cold. We had something to eat and drink, but I was already thinking about porking this gal and seeing if she was as accommodating fucking as she was sucking. I had her stand and grab the dresser and did her doggie that way, reaching around to grab onto her tits with both hands as I pumped away from behind. I almost lifted her off the floor with each thrust and I kneaded and squeezed those titties and nipples hard as my balls slammed into her ass cheeks. The dresser had a mirror so I got to see the contorted expressions on her face as I fucked and squeezed. I eventually let go of her tits and grabbed her at the hips. I pumped harder and harder until I busted another good nut.

Usually I am good for a few more cups but I guess Katie wasn’t erotically inspiring enough for that. She pretty much lets you do what you want, but you do all the work and she isn’t exactly what one would call sensual. I prefer the give and take of a gal who is into it and enjoying herself. We had more to eat and drink, and I jerked off into her face before we finally left.

The Ratings? Face: 3 stars (not pretty, not ugly, just average); Body: 4 stars (an extra point for the tits; without the pot belly the body could have been pretty hot); BJ: 4 stars (accommodating, but I had to do the work, not that I mind the occasional face fuck); Fucking: 3 stars (I like a girl who gets into fucking more and enjoys it); Attitude: 5 stars; Overall: 3 ½ stars; Repeatable? In a pinch, when horny. YMMV

Supereloquent

03-03-10, 20:14

Nothing special otherwise, but she had suction power like a vacuum cleaner, and it was fun to hear her gagging on me.

Member #3969

03-03-10, 20:33

Super, nice pics like always. I was kinda surprised just how good of a rack she does have. I particularly like #7 and although I don't do "russian" a lot that pic is just begging you to slide in between those puppies.

Her tits were a pleasant surprise, very nice indeed, especially on such a thin frame. While she wasn't as in to it as others at least she didn't have a lot of "rules" about what you couldn't do. Sometimes that's just as good as anything else.

[/QUOTE=Supereloquent] She pretty much lets you do what you want,[/QUOTE]Again, thanks for the pics and keep up your "work".

Vms124

03-05-10, 00:03

Fellows, 'just curious. How much usually is the damage if you go on a long date, say multiple cups, pics, 3-4 hours. I was wondering if I am paying too much.

Thanks in advance for the answers.

Fbtom

03-05-10, 02:03

Supereloquent

03-05-10, 11:18

Fellows, 'just curious. How much usually is the damage if you go on a long date, say multiple cups, pics, 3-4 hours. I was wondering if I am paying too much.

Thanks in advance for the answers.

The base price for an average/good BJ on the K is a Jack, and it would be about .5 for FS. A tip for pics and great service would depend on the good job of the provider and the generosity of the monger. For a long, multiple cup date of several hours, my rule of thumb is to take take these base rates and multiply them by their frequency on the date, "volume discount" that a bit, and add a tip for the pics, the total time spent and the enjoyability of the experience, which takes into account both skill and attitude. For me the damages tend to range between 1.2 and 1.5 for a long multiple cup date with pics. If the experience is really outstanding I might also buy the girl a meal, several packs of cigarettes, etc. afterward.

I am sure everyone has a different approach and formula for this, and my approach may seem overpaying to some and underpaying to others. If that is the case then I am probably exactly where I should be. The way I look at it, paying a lot less for a 2-4 hour quality experience with a SW is better than one hour with a gal advertising on line, and often less hassle and time commitment on your part, not to mention the risk of bait and switch. What you see on the K is what you get. Moreover, some of the girls advertising on line can be found on the K and I have dated many of them at a rate significantly less than their internet prices.

The true test for me is whether my payment motivates the girl to try her best every time you get together with her, or will she just be going through the motions. Maybe others don't care about this but I do. I would sooner whack off in the shower than have a cardboard sexual experience. That's why we were blessed with annoying wives and girlfriends ...LOL. My philosophy is that if you pay for sex then it ought to be hot, sensual and a fantasy come true to the extent that it can be.

My experience has been that the girls are happy with the compensation I described, and are only too willing to repeat on a future occasion. When a girl looks at you when paid and gives you a big broad smile and says you can get together with her ANYtime, then you can figure your payment was about right. Of course, there is more than money in this equation. Personal and sexual chemistry count for something no matter what a girl tells you about how it is purely a hard nosed business transaction. YMMV is a two way street.

Supereloquent

03-05-10, 11:38

I had a small window of time to hunt on the K. About 4:30 near the Woodshed, I spot a familiar face. I remembered seeing in Supereloquent's recent post about Nicole (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=942921&postcount=962)

Not being in a good position for a pickup, I circle the block only to run into one way streets all in the wrong direction of where I want to go. Finally back on the K, and to my surprise, I see her again, but in a another bad position for a pick up. I actually did this twice! The third time was a charm. Since she was mid-block on the sidewalk, I pulled into a parking spot to approach on foot. To my dismay, another man approached her while I was walking towards her. They walk past me heading to his car. As I'm on my way back to my ride, they stopped right at my ride. At least I had the chance to say "Hi" before she crossed the street with this lucky guy. I was half tempted to say that I'll wait for her return at this spot, but I didn't have that much time available. Damn, missed by seconds!!!

If this was yesterday (Thursday) then Nicole was wearing an enticing short jean skirt (with no panties) and black boots. I took her to the Carlyle just before you saw her at the Woodshed. My report and pics are forthcoming.

Nicole is so cute, has a rocking body and possesses the sweetest and most fun and bubbly disposition. I am not inclined to make many SWs regulars, but she is becoming about as regular for me as they get. She is a true 5 star experience across the board: looks, skills and attitude.

Supereloquent

03-05-10, 12:59

Super, nice pics like always. I was kinda surprised just how good of a rack she does have. I particularly like #7 and although I don't do "russian" a lot that pic is just begging you to slide in between those puppies.

Thanks for the pics' props.

"Russian" never did it for me, but in Katie's case maybe we should call it an "Irish?" Regardless, her tits were delectable to be sure: somewhere between a C and D cup, with nice fat nipples on which to suck.

While she wasn't as in to it as others at least she didn't have a lot of "rules" about what you couldn't do. Sometimes that's just as good as anything else.

I guess I am jaded by a few of the girls who make the experience very hot and sensual and really get into it and enjoy the sex.

You are right; however, girls with a bunch of "rules" are a bummer.

Again, thanks for the pics and keep up your "work".

Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it's off to "work" I go. :D

Vms124

03-05-10, 15:22

Super, your point of view is very enlightening and fair on both sides. I really learned a lot from everybody here especially from members and smart mongers like you. Really, either everybody agrees or not, some of the tips from people like you saves other mongers butt from different monstrous menace on the K. Long live and more power.

Supereloquent

03-05-10, 18:50

Normally I don’t write another report on a SW when I have already written a recent previous report, unless I have a few more significant things to say/add or pictures to post. In this case both items are true.

I have dated Nicole a number of times now and I must say that she is my number one SW date to seek on the Ave. That is saying something significant because usually my penchant for experimentation and variety overwhelms even my previous good experiences with any one SW. But Nicole is really special IMHO. She is young, pretty, well built, sexually hot and skillful and has one of the best attitudes of any SW on the stroll. For what more could one ask?

Anyway, back to the beginning of my story. Out of the corner of my eye yesterday (Thursday) I saw a gal walking north on the K in a very short skirt which revealed an attractive long pair of legs all the way down to her black boots. My first suspicion was that she was a civvie because she looked too good to be a SW, and so few of them wear skirts (although I wish more of them would; I am a sucker for a girl in a short skirt). However, this was certainly worth a closer look, both because it was near a prime pickup corner, and also because she really looked fine in that skirt with her jaunty, sexy walk. I thought at minimum I would get a closer look. I also thought that, if she were working, she would be snapped up in a nanosecond, so I would be lucky to catch her.

When I rounded the block and came back I didn’t see her on the Ave and I was kicking myself mentally for not just pulling over and trailing her on foot. But there was no place to park on that block, so I guess it really didn’t matter. Up ahead on the prime corner I saw an overweight unattractive blond, and I was about to breeze right through that intersection, when I saw my short-skirted target talking to the fat blond just around the corner and out of view of the K. They were both clearly working, and I had just enough reaction time to take the corner without screeching my tires and causing attention. I drove midway down the block and pulled over, checking in my mirrors to see if the short skirt had seen me. To my delight and surprise, short skirt was running towards me with a big smile on her face like she knew me. As she got closer I saw it was Nicole. I hadn’t recognized her because she had dyed her hair this partly purple color and I had never seen her on the Ave in a skirt before (although she later told me she wears skirts all the time).

Nicole bounced into my car and said, ”I am SO glad to see you!” Maybe it was an act and maybe she says it to every monger she dates, but it sure seemed sincere and heartfelt to me. I have to admit that it made me feel very good. I told her how I had noticed her sexy, slutty short skirt and she laughed and said. “Yeah, that’s the look I was going for.” I also told her that I hadn’t recognized her until I saw her face running towards me. She said that she had dyed her hair and maybe that was part of the reason. That and the fact that I had only initially caught a brief glimpse of her from the back, probably explained it. Her face was bright and beaming, and her mood was impishly bubbly. The only slight detractions were some new blemishes on her face. I don’t get sometimes how many SWs can take such customized and artistically impeccable care of their nails (you can see Nicole’s great nail job in the pics), and let their facial and dental hygiene go to hell. But we all have our priorities in life and I am sure a dermatologist and a dentist, or even skin treatment and teeth whitening, are far down that list for the average drug addicted SW.

Nicole told me that was her favorite skirt and then said, “I’m not wearing any panties. Wanna see?” It was so cute yet so “slanky.” She pushed up her skirt and spread out in her seat revealing her plump pussy. It was so hot and I got a few more pics of her doing exactly that when we got to the Carlyle, so all of you get to share the view I had.

Nicole was eager to pose for some pics when we got to the Carlyle. I had her preview them on my camera and she said how they looked good and that they would look good posted on the USA Sex Guide. She clearly is very well aware of this forum and its value for promoting looks and talent. I don’t think Nicole skipped any classes for SW Marketing 101 and she is definitely interested in expanding her regular client base.

Nicole did her usual superb job of sucking and fucking . I went into all the details in previous reports so it won’t be necessary to repeat all of them here, although I suppose such details are what many readers anticipate. Suffice it to say that Nicole gives your cock special attention for a sensual, long, 5 star suck. She starts out nice and slow and teasingly until you are fully erect (something every SW should learn to do; you don’t start out sucking up and down on a limp cock like a pneumatic drill). She moves to full DT, varied speeds, sloppiness, licking and gives you one of the best overall feelings you will ever get from a BBBJ. She just seems instinctively to know exactly what to do; she is a natural born cock sucker. You don’t need to give her instructions and you never hear her complain, hurry you, or ask if you are going to cum yet . She doesn’t swallow, but she does take your whole load before spitting. And she is so cute about it. She told me last time with a big erotic grin that she was on the cum spitting Olympic Team.

Nicole’s pussy is tight as can be and feels so good no matter what position. She is flexible like a spinner even though she is pretty tall (5 feet 8), but I find the sexiest position with her is doggie. She has the most delightful tight round ass, perfect for holding and slapping while you are pounding her from behind. She is so high and/or numb from dope that she almost never cums, but she sighs and moans and squeals in a way that is very stimulating. She isn’t much of a dirty talker but has no problem hearing what you have to say and repeating anything you would like to hear, and that cute high pitched voice makes it sound very exciting. She says ""I'm Daddy's cum piggie" so devilishly adorably that it would curl your cock. She is fuckably fun.

I had 2 cups of FS. If I had bought an extra hour at the Carlyle I might have used it for more cups, but sometimes it isn’t how many times you do it as how well. These were 2 outstanding sucks and fucks.

The ratings? Pretty much like always for this A plus provider: 5 stars across the board: face, body, BJ. fucking, attitude and the overall experience. And most definitely repeatable. YMMV

Supereloquent

03-05-10, 18:52

Cute face, cute tits, cute ass, cute puss.

Supereloquent

03-05-10, 18:55

Spreading and fingering that plump pussy and flashing the cash.

Supereloquent

03-05-10, 18:57

One of the things she does best.

Freaklikdat

03-05-10, 22:48

Nicole gives your cock special attention for a sensual, long, 5 star suck. She starts out nice and slow and teasingly until you are fully erect (something every SW should learn to do; you don’t start out sucking up and down on a limp cock like a pneumatic drill). She moves to full DT, varied speeds, sloppiness, licking and gives you one of the best overall feelings you will ever get from a BBBJ. She just seems instinctively to know exactly what to do; she is a natural born cock sucker. You don’t need to give her instructions and you never hear her complain, hurry you, or ask if you are going to cum yetDamn I might have to hunt this Nicole down for a BBBJ. I must say you really out did yourself with this post superE. I mean some of those pics are CLASSIC pics. I really must be getting that photographers "eye" because I know great photos when I see them and your are awesome. with your permission I'll love to use a few of them for a photoshopped picture & i'll send you the finished photo. I'll post a sample of what i'm gonna do with the pics on my board

Fbtom

03-05-10, 23:10

If this was yesterday (Thursday) then Nicole was wearing an enticing short jean skirt (with no panties) and black boots. I took her to the Carlyle just before you saw her at the Woodshed. My report and pics are forthcoming.

Nicole is so cute, has a rocking body and possesses the sweetest and most fun and bubbly disposition. I am not inclined to make many SWs regulars, but she is becoming about as regular for me as they get. She is a true 5 star experience across the board: looks, skills and attitude.

It was Tuesday. Yeah, I know I missed out on a good choice! Looked for her again today, but was unsuccessful.

Supereloquent

03-06-10, 01:36

Damn I might have to hunt this Nicole down for a BBBJ.

Nicole is a keeper and deserves good customers and good treatment. You won't be disappointed with her BBBJ.

I must say you really out did yourself with this post superE. I mean some of those pics are CLASSIC pics. I really must be getting that photographers "eye" because I know great photos when I see them and your are awesome.

Thank you for your props on my pics and report. You exhibit fine photography and videos here also, so your comments are high praise indeed.

As a SW photographer yourself you realize that good shots combine the talents both of the shooter and the model. You can provide excellent photographic direction, composition, placement, angles and lighting and get a mediocre response from your "model." Conversely you can get excellent response which can make memorably classic shots.

I will have to say that Nicole really got into it. As we were driving I took a few shots when we would stop at a traffic light and I would say something like: "give me sultry," or "cross your legs and give me sexy," or "twirl your hair and give me attitude." She would laugh yet try very seriously and the photos show it. She is a pistol and full of energy and was remembering one of the Austin Powers movies when Mike Myers was doing some goofy photographic direction and saying things like "give me a tiger," with his fingers all curled up like claws and "give me a llama," with his fingers poking up from his head like ears. I wish I would have caught on film some of those funny looks she imitated. They were priceless. She did them as we were driving but I should have had her repeat them when we were stopped or at the Carlyle. She is very photographically directable, but I guess some ideas just get left behind when the little head is getting excited about what is to come.

...with your permission I'll love to use a few of them for a photoshopped picture & i'll send you the finished photo. I'll post a sample of what i'm gonna do with the pics on my board

Not a problem; feel free.

Cls9637

03-06-10, 06:03

Great photos as usual, SuperE. Nicole is another reason I should drive north from Baltimore! She seems awesome.

One of the things she does best.

Supereloquent

03-06-10, 12:39

I just a photoshopped photo, but this would be a nice welcoming photo for any monger visiting the K:)

This should be on a billboard when entering either end of the K stroll. Great job: imaginative, playful and amusing.

Supereloquent

03-06-10, 13:46

Another nice find Cooky.

It never ceases to amaze me how many different girls are on the K that I have never even glimpsed before. When I think about it; however, there seems to be a constant stream of newbies to the life, girls moving here from other parts of the country, part timers from the burbs, girls trying this because they lost their job in this crappy economy (thanks Congress and Obama) and girls getting out of a recent stretch with the state.

I did a rough statistical calculation once: it takes about 20-40 minutes to make a complete round trip tour of the K, depending upon the traffic, and the time spent at any one location or intersection could be measured in seconds, maybe longer if stopped at a light. The odds that one would see any particular SW on any particular day, at any particular corner, even assuming she were working when you are trolling, are about 100 to 1, maybe even higher.Think of it like the probability that 2 bullets will meet in mid air; you both have to be at exactly the same place at exactly the same time. Add to that the likelihood that a SW may not be working during the time you are trolling, may be on a date, or not even working at all that day and the probability is extremely low you won't find a particular SW ever if that is how you are searching. These odds go up even more significantly yet if she has great curb appeal, because she will be snatched up almost as soon as she appears on the stroll, and what are the odds that you will be there exactly when that happens? You can sit on a particular corner for hours on end to reduce those odds a bit, but I find that tactic to get very old and boring after a while. I would sooner be on the move when I monger and take advantage of momentary opportunities. I am quite willing to experiment and have new experiences, so that suits my temperament just fine. So it is no wonder that I see different and new (to me) SWs on the Ave almost every time I am there, even though I know many of them and many I know may be working that day. Unless you have digits (and even if you do, SW digits are notoriously unreliable), mongering is truly a hobby of persistence and luck. The more persistent you are, the luckier you tend to be. Cooky, you are one "lucky" SOB. :D

We are fortunate that the K is like going fishing for Marlin in the ocean. We may never again catch the one that got away or the marvelous one we spotted or heard about leaping through the waves one day, but there are, luckily for us, plenty of fish in the sea.

CookyJar

03-06-10, 17:37

We are fortunate that the K is like going fishing for Marlin in the ocean. We may never again catch the one that got away or the marvelous one we spotted or heard about leaping through the waves one day, but there are, luckily for us, plenty of fish in the sea.

Funny you should mention fishing. Just wait until you hear/see my latest fish story.

LOL

CookyJar

Misfit

03-07-10, 09:38

Dude I'm speechless, What does her tramp stamp say "ROB"?
Wow 3 Jacksons for this treat, not bad.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94775

Misfit

Supereloquent

03-07-10, 11:38

Dude I'm speechless, What does her tramp stamp say "ROB"?
Wow 3 Jacksons for this treat, not bad.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94775

Misfit

Yes, her tramp stamp says "Rob,'" her first serious bf. Some of the local Philly mongers have discussed this before. They should teach every young girl in "Tats 101" that you never get ink with a person's name unless they are a beloved relative or deceased. Otherwise, you run a serious and likely risk of carrying around a reminder of a dead relationship like a ball and chain tat for the rest of your life. For us mongers though, it is rather hot to be viewing her stamp as you are tapping doggie style what "Rob" once did.

The "flash the cash" pic to which you linked seems to be a very popular one by the view count. I did that once before by accident and it turned out to be an interesting shot: that big grin that says, "I got what I wanted and you got what you wanted!" I should include it every time I do a photo spread as kind of a signature pic. But the big head is not always thinking so clearly when the little head is so ready to be sucked and plow a plump, tight pussy.

Nicole is a sweetie though, so you are right to be speechless. She is young and cute, with a smokin' bod, and could easily be a cheerleader fantasy come true. Even better, how many cheerleaders do you remember that could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch and grab your dick in their pussies like a vise-grip?

Supereloquent

03-13-10, 12:49

One thing I still haven't had the patience to arrange is a SW 3-some, but you seem to do that on a regular basis Cooky. Awesome pics and report.

Supereloquent

03-13-10, 13:01

I saw this SW on the north end of the stroll, but I thought almost for certain that she was a civvie. She just looked too good to be true. Still, there was something about her that prompted me to give it a shot. I tried to get her attention while driving by. I pulled around the corner from the Ave twice and she never followed. I was ready to give up, but she turned down a side street and I circled the block and was facing her head on when I pulled over and stopped. She was still looking straight ahead as if absorbed in thought. When she looked up I gave her the moving crooked finger "come-hither" signal, and she pointed at herself and raised her eyebrows and cocked her head as if to say, “me?” and I nodded.

Even after she got in I was a bit leery. She hadn't seemed to be actively seeking a date and she looked like a prime candidate for a decoy: very pretty face, expensive boots , nice clothes, and she smelled great. Bijou (means “jewel” in French; what a classy street nick) is 25, 5 feet tall, barely 100 pounds and you could tell she had a killer and proportioned bod even with a coat and sweater on: an absolutely perfect spinner in every way. She had the cutest high squeaky voice like she was a teenager. I drove around for a while, making several turns to make sure nobody was following. I never mentioned money or where we were going or what we were doing, and she never brought it up either. At long last I asked her if the Carlyle was OK and that I wanted to take some pics. We still hadn’t discussed money but she said she had never heard of the Carlyle before, but it and the pics were fine, and she actually enjoyed posing for them. In our discussion on the way there she told me she was a student and that she doesn’t come out much to do this and had only started to do it the past 2 months. Her mannerisms on the K seemed to confirm this. But when we got to the Carlyle she let it slip that she hadn’t been out on the K in about a year. I guess if you are going to lie you had better have a good memory, especially for the lie you just told. Anyway, she certainly didn’t seem like any typical SW on the K. She had absolutely no telltale marks or symptoms of drug addiction, although we all know that anything is possible.

I had great fun watching that cute little ass wiggle up the steps of the Carlyle, knowing I would soon be having some of that. When we got to the room I told her that I wanted as many cups as I could manage in 2 hours, and pics, and she seemed happy with my negotiation offer for that. When she undressed I was certainly not disappointed from what I expected. This girl had an absolutely gorgeous spinner body: a flat stomach, athletic and muscular arms and legs, beautiful small tits with incredible soft pink nipples, and the cutest little ass. The best surprise of all though was her attitude. Many girls in general and SWs in particular who know they look good have a bad disposition for sex, but not Bijou. She was a GFE all the way. She was warmly friendly, sexy and sensual and she absolutely loved to talk dirty and was willing to convincingly say anything I could dream up. As she got me hard for a CBJ she was cooing in her sexy high voice, “I am Daddy’s sl*ut, his little fuck toy. Get nice and hard for me Daddy so I can suck on you and make you feel sooooooo good.” Usually the sensation is decreased dramatically for me with a CBJ, and I don’t enjoy it as much, but Bijou proceeded to give me the best CBJ of my life with lots of wet slobbering, ball licking and full DT right to my balls as she used her tongue piercing to very good effect by pressing and swirling it against me expertly. She would vary speeds just right as she looked up at me and licked the length of my shaft like a lollipop, and then give me a devious smile as she reached the top and plummeted down on me as she sucked me right to the bottom with all she was worth. Then she would slowly suck back up again and “pop” off the top and start licking down the underside again to my balls. She teasingly almost brought me to orgasm a few times, saying, “Mmmmmmm. I bet Daddy wants ta cum for baby, doesn’t he?” Finally she said, “My tight wet pussy needs cock. Fuck your cum piggie, Daddy." I didn’t need to be asked twice. I rolled her up on her back for mish with her legs pinned to either side of her body, slid in and started to pound that delicious little cu*nt. She kept talking dirty to me the whole time and I kept pounding away as she said, “Fuck me…fuck me..fuck me…fuck me HARDER! Make me cum on your cock, Daddy. Make piggie cummmmmm.” OMG, that was a hot fuck! That tight wet puss was squishing as I pounded her and the dirty talking was flipping every switch I had. I was drenched in sweat from fucking her so hard and ,when I came, my whole body shivered.

After some rest I was ready for round 2, and I knew I wanted to watch that cute little ass while doing her doggie. She splayed herself on her knees at the edge of the bed froggie style, like only a spinner can do, and I stood on the floor and fucked her from behind while standing there, grabbing onto both of her tiny round ass cheeks and pulling them onto me as I thrust into her. Finally, I reached up with one hand and grabbed hold of her long hair and pulled it back so that her head was back at an angle. She hissed, “Yesssssssss” as I held her hair there like reins and slapped her ass with the other hand. The harder I tugged, and the harder I slapped and the harder I thrust, the more vigorously she wiggled on my cock and I could hear her moaning loudly in that cute high voice. It was so hot, almost like a high pitched squeal . Having cum already I was able to fuck in that position for a good long time, as her body almost writhed out of control and her squeals grew louder and louder. I could feel a tight grip around my cock as she made grunting noises in the back of her throat and said, “Oh fuck, Oh shit, Oh fuck, I’m cummmmmmming.” Just as she finished I busted a hard nut of my own.

I managed 2 more cups in the space of our 2 hour stay: one CBJ (just HAD to have one of those to completion), and one FS. I have to say that this was some of the most enjoyable sex I have ever experienced.

Ratings? This was one of the best SW experiences of my LIFE and I have had lots of them. Bijou gets 5 stars across the board; face, body, attitude, BJ and sex. I have her digits and she invited me to her place next time for a repeat performance and says she has lots of cute, sexy outfits to model for pics. I can’t wait!

Supereloquent

03-13-10, 13:03

What a tight sexy little package!

Supereloquent

03-13-10, 13:05

She was good at it and her tongue piercing (you can see it on pics Bijou14 and Bijou30) made it all the better.

Member #3969

03-13-10, 13:27

Super, you have outdone yourself. IMHO if she just didn't have all those tattoo's she'd be freaking perfect. Even so, I do believe that I have ALREADY found the girl who will get my vote in the 2010 SW of the Year competition!

She's so fine that she'd be worth a road trip to play with her. Thanks for the pics as I may have to live vicariously through them. If I wasn't so damn jealous i'd be telling you to keep up the good work like I usuallly do.

What a tight sexy little package!

Fbtom

03-13-10, 14:30

Fantastic find! Great pics and report too.

Sounds like you were a bit daring, I'm very nervous approaching someone who might be a civi.

CookyJar

03-13-10, 17:58

One thing I still haven't had the patience to arrange is a SW 3-some, but you seem to do that on a regular basis Cooky. Awesome pics and report.

I've got to check my definitions. If you keep Maria in the mix it was either a foursome or a mini orgy.

LOL

CookyJar

redfish

03-14-10, 00:33

I am 90 miles north of Phily. But damn S., you have a great find and I will prob do a day trip tomorrow. You go boy!

She was good at it and her tongue piercing (you can see it on pics Bijou14 and Bijou30) made it all the better.

JerryGarcia

03-14-10, 00:48

I am thinking SW of the Year material here, Super. Great pics and nice write up--what's not to like about this honey.

There is nothing like finding an unspoiled gem like Bijou. It brings to mind a number of occasions where some fresh new girl appeared on a street corner and I was lucky enough to get a "taste" early on.

Maybe l will be inspired to do a post on the thread about "Nostalgic Reminiscing" as a result of your sublime report.

Supereloquent

03-14-10, 11:09

Super, you have outdone yourself.

Thanks. I hope to do that as many times as a future occasion allows.

Sounds like you were a bit daring, I'm very nervous approaching someone who might be a civi.

From the moment I saw her the little head was praying that she was working, but the big head was doubting that sincerely. The little head can be quite persuasive and persistent when he wants to be. Usually that spells trouble but sometimes it has a happy ending.

Fantastic find! Great pics and report too.

Thanks for the congrats on the find, pics and report. IMHO she was about as good as it gets in discovering "perfection" on the K. She was more like the very best GFEs one might discover posted on the internet "on the clock" at 3 to 4 times Ave rates (or even more).

IMHO if she just didn't have all those tattoo's she'd be freaking perfect.

As to tattoos and "perfection": there are some SWs out there with no tattoos, but that is very rare indeed. If your SW fantasy is about the unspoiled cheerleader you lusted over or had in HS, or saw recently in the mall, then I suppose tattoos can spoil that a bit for some people. But tattoos are increasingly a rite of passage for many girls today even at the tender age of 16 (or younger if they lie about their age or have a friend or relative in the tattoo biz).

I rather like tattoos on a SW. I think they can be sexy. Redheaded Jackie's eagle's wings which spread up from her shaved pussy and Naomi's panorama of intricate and beautiful ink all over her body are but two prime examples of this.

Even so, I do believe that I have ALREADY found the girl who will get my vote in the 2010 SW of the Year competition!

A SW like Bijou is certainly rare to find on the K, and she definitely qualifies in my mind for a SW of the Year nomination for 2010. But we are only in March and Philly is chock full of good looking SWs for us yet to discover and photograph.

She's so fine that she'd be worth a road trip to play with her.

See my previous post on the odds of finding a particular SW on the K when you are there. The odds against are astronomical. Fortunately the K abounds with choices on any given day or night.

Thanks for the pics as I may have to live vicariously through them.

You are quite welcome for the pics. It is what I do. :D Living vicariously through them can be nice but finding some of these SWs from time to time and remembering the pics and reviews to guide a wise decision is even better. We all know that good looks don't necessarily mean a good experience, and the reports here about such remind us of that. However, Bijou is an example where good looks and good service are packaged together.

If I wasn't so damn jealous i'd be telling you to keep up the good work like I usuallly do.

There is no need to be jealous, although I realize you said that with your tongue planted firmly in your cheek. The K has no special requirements for anyone to be successful other than a commitment of time, patience and persistence. And, who knows, there may be finds out there just as good or even better than Bijou. All we have to do is keep our eyes open and our powder dry.

Freaklikdat

03-14-10, 12:43

Mike 80

03-14-10, 14:59

Chriseff took the words right out of my mouth. As a monger Bijou looks and sounds to be the kind of SW you live to find, the kind who makes all the wasted time and bad dates worth it. I love her flirty, smiling look in these pictures. Gotta say that her openly inviting, spread-legged Bijou18 makes me want to dive right in. I do agree with Horny As Hell that the only thing keeping her from perfection are the unfortunate albeit limited number of tattoos. Bijou is fine, fresh looking, and an obvious Philly SW of the Year contender in every respect.

Supereloquent

03-15-10, 21:19

This is a very different kind of SW report. It isn’t in the Philly area, so if that’s what you were seeking you can save yourself time and skip it. However, it IS different and very interesting; that I can promise you.

I was on business in very northern rural PA where it touches on the NY border. There was one cell tower in this tiny town, but you had to almost drive up to where it was on the nearest mountain to get a signal. I was having lunch in a little bar. The food was actually pretty good and inexpensive too. There was a woman sitting in the booth across from me. I started some polite conversation and, being the gregarious person that I am, invited myself to join her. I really didn’t have anything in mind other than enjoying a talking female companion for lunch. Her name was Maddie, short for Madelaine. Her face was average looking but somewhat cute. She had frizzy brown hair, a nice smile and a cute laugh. My guess was that she was about mid 30s which I confirmed as 35 by asking her what year she graduated from HS (one of my ways of finding out age without directly asking the question). Her face actually looked pretty good for 35. She was clearly overweight, but you could tell she also had big titties, and she was strategically leaning forward to show some cleavage while talking and laughing, and I am definitely a sucker for cleavage. I slowly began to get naughtier ideas which I honestly had not planned when asking to join her.

She wasn’t a prize physical specimen, but she looked and acted as if she would be a fun suck and fuck. Every chubby and every MILF I have ever known was a great cock sucker. This was a classic situation where you either get her drunk enough to take her home and have a fun afternoon with a chubby MILF, or work it more slowly for a one-nighter date as a pretense to get in her pants afterward. I didn’t have the time or inclination for either of these strategies. Some further discussion with her gave me a different idea, which might be risky and earn me a slap in the face, or at minimum a huffy and disgusted look. After paying for her lunch and springing for a few drinks, she was relaxed, uninhibited and in a good mood. I moved the conversation to talking about her and what she did for a living, etc. She said she had been divorced a few years, lived in town with her son (aged 14), used to be employed as a secretary, but was unemployed at the moment and looking for work. I said that I didn’t want her to take this the wrong way (what other way was there to take an offer to suck and fuck for money? LOL), but what did she think about having some fun together and getting some tax free financial benefits from the deal. She gave me a shy grin and said with a slight slur from the drinks, “I think that might be fun.” Maybe I could have gotten this for free, but I wanted to grease the skids for this to happen quickly, and my ulterior motive was to get just about anything that I wanted. I had the sense that would happen readily with payment because she would feel obligated. It’s always such a thrill to have a woman for her first time as a wh0re. She doesn’t know what to expect or what is “usual” so you get away with pretty much whatever you can.

We went to her place. She called and arranged to have her son go to one of his friends after school. She locked the doors, drew the blinds and led me to her bedroom. I saw some kinky toys there (paddles, rope, etc.) and I asked her about them. She said she was into kinky sex play. This was getting better by the minute. I am into this with civvie dates who are so inclined; therefore, I am not exactly a babe in the woods where BDSM play is concerned. I was thinking we would certainly try some of that.

I didn’t have my camera with me (damn!) but I saw she had a webcam on her computer. I told her I wanted to take pics and download them to a DVD as a remembrance of the occasion. She said that was OK, and she didn’t mind sexy pics or pics of her naked, but no sex pics. That was fine with me although I was hopeful I could convince her to lift those restrictions (unfortunately I wasn’t, but I got some pretty good pics anyway). Just then I had a brilliant inspiration of something I always wanted to try. I have always wanted to take pics of a woman with lots of gooey cum all over her face. But the amount from just me would hardly accomplish this. You needed a bunch of guys as they do in bukkake pics and videos. But I did have a deliciously wicked idea, which I will share later both in words and pics.

She was clearly a big girl, bordering on what one might call fat instead of just chubby, but her cute face, big titties, shaved pussy and big round ass made up for it. Plus, she would do just about anything I asked, so she was my chubby MILF sex puppet. She was an excellent cock sucker, as is my experience with chubbies and MILFs and especially chubby MILFs. She took my cock all the way down until there was nothing left but pubic hair. She kept her mouth all the way down on my cock like that, sucking just right and swirling her tongue and applying pressure with her throat. She would semi-gag and almost literally sloppily cough me up, with spit running from her mouth and strings of spittle connected to my cock. She was into dirty talk and I would say to her, ”Suck my cock like a bad cum piggie. Suck it all the way down, wh0re. Spit on my cock. Suck that spit off and spit on it again, sl*ut. “ She was giving me an absolutely terrific BBBJ as only a woman with plenty of cock sucking ability can. It is my observation that big girls do BJs better both because they are better physically equipped for DT and also because they just try harder to please. When they also have a lot of cock sucking experience, as a MILF is likely to have, well that is just icing on the cake. I just lay there on the bed, her face between my legs, holding her hair in a bunch with one hand and the back of her head with the other, pressing her mouth and throat down on my cock and having her release and come up wet and sloppy for air, and then back down again. She still had her bra on but it was fun watching those big titties quiver as she sucked, and saying every filthy dirty thing that came into my head. Finally I felt myself ready to pop and told her to hold it all in her mouth, which she did. Then I told her to open her mouth and show me and gargle it. That was so hot to see and hear. I then had her stick out her tongue and watched the cum drip out all over her lips and chin and into a cup. I told her not to swallow any but to spit as much as she could into the cup. She also scooped up what was on her face and what had dripped to her tits and let it all drip into the cup. You will understand why later. This made me so hot I was ready to start again and I told her to suck me hard and don’t stop until I gave her another load. This time it was just wild, hot, fast sucking and I grabbed her head with both hands and forced her mouth on me and fucked it. She was making wet glugging sounds in her mouth and throat, and when I let her come up for air she was gasping and spit was flowing down her chin and dripping onto her tits. I kept fucking her mouth hard like that until I blasted another hot load and had her keep it all in her mouth and spit it all into the cup. I repeated this about 30 minutes later and we were collecting quite a gooey mixture of cum in the cup.

We lay on her bed for a rest and had another few drinks and I asked her what type of kink she was into. She said she liked to be restrained, paddled and spanked and even have her face slapped (not too hard of course, just for the effect), be called dirty names and do role playing. When I asked what type of role playing she liked she said she liked the “Daddy thing” (that made my ears perk up), Master/slave, play rape and kidnapped/torture victim. She said she liked some pain to the extent it was erotic but nothing too extreme. I asked if there were any things she fantasized about trying but never had. She said she had always wanted to be suspended by her hands and experience the feeling of helplessness, and feeling afraid as someone did as they pleased with her. I asked what some of these things might be and she said she got the chills (in a good way) thinking about being gagged and blindfolded, feeling strange things dragged across her body (fingernails, feathers, pencils, other objects), having her tits played with, nipples sucked and bitten, having clamps placed on her nipples, and even “knife play.” Knife play in particular made her very excited, no real cutting or anything like that, just the feel of the cold steel scraping across her body and the ‘threats’ of what might happen made her wet just thinking about it. Hey, I say whatever floats your boat.

We did some pics on her webcam. There was no flash and we pretty much had to use the available light in the room from windows and/or lamps. The pics aren’t up to my usual photo standards, but it was better than nothing. We took some pics of her in her lingerie and some of her bare titties and some of her spread wide and playing with a vibrator (another thing she likes to do). The webcam was a bit awkward to use because it has such a tiny lens and you can’t quite center your subject the way you can with a hand held camera. But the pics came out OK, considering. I had a better idea for some pics later on, which you will see and find out about as well.

My mind was whirring with possibilities after she told me the kinky stuff she was into and her fantasies. I could certainly have fun making some of these fantasies come true, and I told her that, and asked if she wanted to try. She smiled sheepishly at me and simply said, “Sure.” She had all the toys available, so I blindfolded her, and tied and suspended her in her bra and panties by her hands from the clothing hook on her bedroom door. Then I did nothing just to see the reaction of her anticipation. She started to breathe hard and was slowly wiggling her body against the door. I moved to whisper in her ear,” Stay perfectly still cu*nt, or I will punish you.” I could hear her breathing even more heavily and beads of sweat were forming on her forehead. She was clearly becoming quite excited. I whispered again, “You are my slave, do you understand fuck-meat?” She hoarsely whispered, “Yes.” I slapped her face and said loudly,”You didn’t understand me, you dumb cu*nt! You are my fucking slave. You will address me as Master or Sir. Do you understand ,you stupid cum dump?”She said, “Yes Master, Yes Sir, I understand.” I said, “That’s a good little cum piggie. Now tell Master what a filthy wh0re you are.” “I am your filthy wh0re, Sir.”

I always carry a knife. One never knows when something like that will come in handy, although I have never needed to use it in defense and hope I never will. I flipped out the blade next to her ear so she was sure to hear it swish and click into place. I ran the flat surface along her face so she could feel the cold steel. Sweat was starting to pour out of her. She didn’t realize it but I had a butter knife handy (for safety) to switch in place of my sharp knife and I pressed it against her lips until she opened her mouth her mouth and she could feel the cold steel of the butter knife against the warmth of her lips. Try it sometime with your eyes closed. It feels like a real knife. I ran the butter knife all over her body, pressing the edge hard against her flesh and making long trails on her face, neck, chest, stomach and legs. Her body was shivering from this and goose bumps were forming where I left the depressions of the butter knife on her skin, and she remained totally still. I took the real knife, stretched out the side of her bra held the knife blade under it, and sliced it towards me severing it in two. She let out a gasp. I did the same with the bra straps and slid off her bra. I could see the sweat really pouring off her and I scooped some of it up on my fingers and had her suck it off. I told her to call herself the nastiest names possible. She hesitated for a bit and then said nice and loud, “I am your naughty wh0re, your nasty sl*ut, your fuck-meat, your filthy little cum pig.” And I said, “Tell me something nasty to do to you, cum pig.” She thought for a bit and said, “My tits are yours Sir; do anything you want to them.” I said, “Anything?” She said, “Yes, Sir, anything you like.” I put a ball gag in her mouth and proceeded to knead her tits, roll her nipples between my fingers and stretch them out as far as I could like rubber bands, applying more and more pressure until I could see her rising on her toes and having a pained expression on her face. I sucked on her nipples, and without warning would bite them and she would let out a squeal, and I could hear her gasping even through the ball gag. She was breathing so hard that foam was forming around the gag and dripping out and down her chin. I said, “Nod your head yes if you want me to bite your nipples harder. “ She nodded her head no and I slapped her face and squeezed her nipples hard until she squealed again and I said again, “Nod your head yes to tell me you want your nipples bitten harder.” She nodded no again and we went through this a few times until she finally nodded yes and I bit harder. She squealed very loud; you could hear her even through the ball gag. Then I licked her nipples and petted them and said, “That’s being a good piggie for Master.” I let her ball gag loose and she was literally panting and gasping for breath.

She was so excited from all this that her panties were wet and liquid was running down the inside of her her leg. I stretched out her panties from the side and sliced them with my knife, and pulled them to her ankles, revealing a soaking wet, smoothly shaved pussy. I replaced her ball gag and started to tease her clit with my fingers. This was driving her crazy and she tried to close her legs together. I slapped her face and said, “Spread your legs, cu*nt, and keep them spread until I tell you to close them.” She was having a hard time doing this because I was teasing the shit out of her clit and she was wiggling her ass against the door and pulling on the rope suspending her arms on the hook. I took the butter knife and traced hard down her stomach and right between the folds of her pussy and she froze so as not to harm herself on what she thought was a sharp knife (she was blindfolded all this time). I slid the dull point of the butter knife up inside her and I could hear her physically gasp. I grabbed her large vibrating dildo and slowly shoved it inside her. She was making low groaning sounds in the back of her throat and scraping her ass up and down on the door to the rhythm of my thrusts with the vibrator. I fucked her good and hard with the vibrator and you could hear her moans and screams even through the gag. I slid off her gag and told her to say “fuck” real loud for "Daddy" every time she came like a good girl. After fucking her really hard with the dildo I could see her body tense and her lips tremble and she started to scream and moan and let out a big “FUCK,” followed by a chorus of “fuck, Daddy, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck,FUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKK,” and she squirted warm wet cum out all over the place as soon as I released the dildo from her pussy. I scooped up the cum with my fingers from her legs, and let it roll into the cup to mix with my cum. Now that I knew she was a squirter, I rubbed her clit vigorously and fingered her g-spot with 2 fingers, exactly the technique I know gets a squirter to spout over and over again. I had the cum cup nearby and every time she squirted I held the cup there and caught as much of it as I could. Quite a gooey mess of both our cum was collecting in the cup.

She was hanging forward on the rope holding her to the hook, almost panting. I slipped her gag back in and tied her feet tightly together for what I knew was to come. Then I whispered to her, “Remember when you said I could do ANYthing to your titties?” She weakly nodded her head. I said to her, “I didn’t tell you something but I collect nipples and I am going to cut one of yours off for my collection. Just nod towards which one you want to keep.” She started to scream and try to get free but I had tied her very well and she wasn’t going anywhere. She tried to kick at me with her feet but I had tied them very tightly as well so all she was doing was banging herself against the door. I let her do this for a bit until she was out of energy. Then I whispered sweetly but wickedly, "Tell Daddy which nipple you want to keep." She tried to scream but her screams were muffled by the gag and she was wiggling hard to try to get loose. "Well, if you won’t tell Daddy which one you want to keep then Daddy will have no choice but to take both of them.” She started wiggling furiously again and trying to scream but the screams were still muffled by the gag. She had a wild expression on her face. She was still blindfolded and couldn’t see, and I stretched out one of her nipples and ran the edge of the butter knife against it. Tears welled up in her eyes and streamed down under the blindfold and I could hear muffled pleas under the gag which I made out roughly to be “Please. No. Please. I will do anything you want. Please.” Finally I pulled down her blindfold, showed her the butter knife, released her gag, kissed her softly on the forehead, released her feet and then her hands and we collapsed on the bed together. She gasped, “OMFG! I was so fucking scared, but FUCK! That was the hottest thing I ever experienced. OMFG! That was so real. FUCK!!!!!” I told her that was what was known as a mind fuck and it had to feel real to work. She said, “FUCK! It sure felt real to me. My fucking heart is still pounding!” It isn't like this was the first time I had ever done this. A few civvie dates who were into BDSM had told me in the past that mind fucking really didn't work on them because they knew they weren't really in danger. When I would spring this scenario on them on a future date, it never failed to almost literally scare the piss out of them. I never heard one of them ever claim afterward that mind fucking didn't work on them. Women who are into this shit love it, are aroused by it and can't wait for more of it once they get a taste of the high. I have a few scenarios like this that work like a charm, even if they know something is coming. The trick is to be convincing.

I told her to get on her knees on the bed and spread them, and I fucked her from behind. She was so excited from the mind fuck that she screamed like crazy and I paddled her ass hard with one of her paddles as I fucked her hard, pulled back on her hair and called her every nasty name I could remember. She repeated them right back to me. Her ass was cherry red and I was fucking her like a demon and eventually she squirted big streams of hot cum all over my cock and out onto the bed and I busted a hard nut. We had to change the linens afterward because she had made a cum lake. I couldn’t do much with the cum she had soaked the sheets with, but I drained my used rubber into the cum cup.

I spent the afternoon and most of the evening there and we sucked and fucked and played the whole time. Every time she sucked me off I had her spit it into the cum cup and every time I fucked her with a rubber I emptied it into the cum cup. After a while there was quite a gooey mess of cum in it. She made some dinner for us and afterward we sucked and fucked and played some more. She told me she was always curious about water sports. Honestly I had never tried it before but I am always game for a new experience. She knelt in her tub and I pissed all over her face and into her mouth and it ran down all over her big tits. The shower was running warm and steamy behind me onto my back the whole time I was pissing on her face and I turned sideways to let the water splash on her face and body and rinse herself. I will have to admit that water sports were a turn on in some perverse way, and I had her soap up and rinse her and me and lick my ass and my balls and suck my cock as the shower was running with nice hot steamy water. I soaped my ass real clean and sat on her face afterward on the bed and had her lick my ass and stick her tongue up it as I jerked off into the cum cup. OMFG was THAT hot!

So, why all this collection of cum into a cup? I finally poured it all over her face and hair and had her play with it with her fingers, suck on her fingers and suck and play with her dildo with the cum all over her face and dripping to her tits. And, off course, I captured many pics of this on her webcam for you to enjoy and for me to remember.

Ratings? Face: 3 ½ stars (cute enough, but not exactly a Hollywood starlet); Body: 3 1/2 stars (she would qualify for less than this score as a rule, even as a chubbie, but her tits and ass and smoothly shaved plump pussy are worth at least an extra point); BJ: 5 stars; Fucking: 5 stars; Attitude: 5 stars plus; Overall: off the charts with the whole experience; Repeatable? Absolutely. It’s even worth another 4 hour drive to North Bumblefuck, PA YMMV

Supereloquent

03-15-10, 21:22

Maddie had nice big round titties.

Supereloquent

03-15-10, 21:27

Maddie had a pretty smooth shaved pussy and liked to play with her toy.

Supereloquent

03-15-10, 21:30

Maddie with a days worth of cum in her hair, on her face and on her tits.

The P Hunter

03-16-10, 00:24

Maddie with a days worth of cum in her hair, on her face and on her tits.

seriously....WTF!!!

Supereloquent

03-16-10, 01:19

Yes, I am twisted. Was there ever any doubt? Now you have a small glimpse of the possible depths of my "perversions." Trust me, it is only a glimpse. I have done far "worse" (more interesting?) and probably will again. I never force this or anything on anyone. It is only and always done with mutual consent. Some women are even more "twisted" than I could ever possibly be, and I have true personal experiences with that which would curl your hair and make my latest report look mild in comparison.

We have a special thread in this forum on 'Sadomasochism' but that is really a misnomer for the entirety of BDSM which some of my interests encompass with the right partner. I know enough about BDSM to teach it and that should be the appropriate label for the special thread currently mislabeled (IMHO) 'Sadomasochism,' which is a far more limited subject. Since I have my own thread and my latest report was about much more than the simple concept of 'Sadomasochism' I felt my report belonged here. But BDSM is no more sick and perverted than guys who like BBBJs or anal or anything else on the menu. It is simply a preference and choice and nothing more.

Non-mongers would consider what we do on the K "twisted" and and would call us all "sick perverted fucks." It is all relative and a matter of degree. One man's perversion is another man's hobby.

Member #5237

03-16-10, 04:11

Maddie with a days worth of cum in her hair, on her face and on her tits.

After seeing these pics, only one question comes to mind..........when you kissed her good-bye, did you picture all that cum all over her face?...LMAO

FrankItaly

03-16-10, 05:13

I'm in the NC area and I saw the pics and had to read the report. Lmfao that you called her piggie. I was rolling on the floor reading that. You sicko! LOL

Supereloquent

03-16-10, 08:30

After seeing these pics, only one question comes to mind..........when you kissed her good-bye, did you picture all that cum all over her face?...LMAO

I realize you are asking a somewhat rhetorically amusing and fun-poking question, but the serious answer is no. My imagination both then and now is not nearly as vivid as the pics of how hot it actually looked all over her face, hair and tits. That's one reason I like to take pics: so that I will have something to remember when I am old and gray and the equipment doesn't work so well anymore.

Johnny Stales

03-16-10, 10:48

That's a heck of a lot of cum. A whole lot more than what we normally see you produce. You really must have been pent up. I didn't know a single person could produce that much cum in one sitting.

Supereloquent

03-16-10, 15:26

That's a heck of a lot of cum. A whole lot more than what we normally see you produce. You really must have been pent up. I didn't know a single person could produce that much cum in one sitting.

Well, I can assure you that I didn't have any male help on the "production line." However, keep in mind that she was a squirter and made her own considerable contributions to the total. That's why it appears to be somewhat runnier than one might expect from 100% pure and unadulterated male cum. :D

Supereloquent

03-16-10, 15:34

I'm in the NC area and I saw the pics and had to read the report. Lmfao that you called her piggie. I was rolling on the floor reading that. You sicko! LOL

Just in case you missed my various reports on this very subject, here is a link to my latest:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=923345&postcount=824

CookyJar

03-17-10, 09:10

Dis won twasn’t actually mi taste, but, ya duz what ya gotta do, ta git it done.

I would have done the girl, but S&M just is not my thing. She would have been a bit out there for my taste.

There are a number of guys out there on the avenue who get off hurting the girls, they enjoy treating them bad, calling them names and degrading them. I am (and I am sure you are) always careful not to cross over into their world. A little nasty talk, hair pulling and a tap on the ass now and then, is about as far as I can go.

Even if the girl is willing, there are just certain places my imagination will not go.

To each his own, is my motto.

CookyJar

Supereloquent

03-17-10, 10:50

Dis won twasn’t actually mi taste, but, ya duz what ya gotta do, ta git it done.

My philosophy precisely.

I would have done the girl, but S&M just is not my thing. She would have been a bit out there for my taste.

Real S&M is a LOT more intense than this mild example. I have been with masochists who truly enjoy and get off on extreme pain. That is not my thing. If my partner really enjoys it then some erotic pain in the mix is fine with me. I am more into her passionate reactions to it than being a sadist, from which I am a VERY far cry, a sadist being someone who actually enjoys hurting someone whether they like it or not.

There are a number of guys out there on the avenue who get off hurting the girls, they enjoy treating them bad, calling them names and degrading them. I am (and I am sure you are) always careful not to cross over into their world. A little nasty talk, hair pulling and a tap on the ass now and then, is about as far as I can go.

I don't enjoy hurting anyone, nor degrading them. It is always about having fun and that means mutual fun. I am definitely into dirty talk, but I really can't enjoy it if my partner honestly doesn't like it. If my partner enjoys some pain and intensity then I can also be into that up to a point.

Even if the girl is willing, there are just certain places my imagination will not go.

I agree. But each of us draws a line in the sand at different places.

To each his own, is my motto.

Absitively, Cooky.

Supereloquent

03-17-10, 12:54

I saw this tall, thin SW on the southern end of the stroll. She was clearly working because she was posted on a hot corner, and staring into every car that drove past. She looked good enough for a tryout, and I had already rented a nice room for a previous tryst, so I picked her up to see if the date chemistry would be good.

Alicia seemed shy but in a way that almost was contrived. It was hard to get a read on her, and I am usually very good at that. But she seemed warm and pleasant and the conversation went smoothly. I told her I wanted to go to a nice place I had already rented, take some pics and have a few cups of FS. She was cool with all that and didn’t even bring up a discussion of price. I like that because I know that at minimum I am going to give a girl Ave rates, and, if she performs well , something extra with which almost all are happy.

When we got the room I took a few pics of her dressed but she didn’t want any naked pics taken, because she said she was embarrassed about how small and saggy her tits were and some marks on her body and stretch marks on her stomach. When she undressed to fuck I did see some tracks on her arms, and she did have a few stretch marks on her stomach, and her tits were tiny and a bit saggy, but nothing over which to make a big deal. I like small titties just as well as big ones; I am an equal opportunity tittie lover. :D But I guess even SWs have some strange vanities about their bodies sometimes. She did; however, let me take some nice pics of her sucking my cock, so go figure.

She started by telling me in the most seductive and almost innocent tone that she wanted to please me. I find this most enticing especially when it appears to be sincere (even if it isn’t; perception is reality). Then we both undressed and stood in the center of the room, except that she insisted on keeping her sweater on for the pics. She dropped to her knees and she proceeded to swallow my cock whole from tip to balls and sucked expertly around the root. I was almost immediately rock hard. I can’t even describe the details of her cock sucking technique other than to say it felt incredible, as if my cock was made for her mouth or vice versa. She didn’t do any particular thing special like slobber or moan or lick or anything like that, although she could definitely DT balls deep. She just gave my cock a slow and steady sucking that felt incredibly good. I like it when a SW understands that a really fun BJ doesn’t have to be a race. I can’t say that it felt so especially nice just because I was exceptionally horny; I had a number of cups previously that day with a civvie pickup in that very room, so the edge was off at least a little. I was surprised that I was ready to pop in only about 2 minutes. I had planned to hold back for some fucking too, even on the first cup, but it felt so damn good that I just let it spurt into her mouth and she smiled knowingly, licked her lips and walked over to spit it into the sink. I don't much mind a spitter as long as she catches. What do I care if she swallows or not?

It felt just as good for round two and I couldn’t help myself but spurt again into her mouth. I was wondering if my infatuation with her BBBJCIMs were ever going to allow me to fuck her. Finally, after a rest, we started round three and I had a bit more staying power. I even surprised myself that I still wanted to blast a load into her mouth again, but I resisted the temptation, slipped on a rubber and started to fuck her mish. She was an OK fuck but I could see that her highest and best use was sucking. So, after fucking her mish and doggie for a while, I pulled out, slipped off the rubber, and had her suck me again. She has a magical mouth and it didn’t take me long to bust another hard nut into it.

I may have normally stayed for at least another cup, but it was getting late and I needed to be somewhere. Alicia is the kind of SW though who would be fun to try for 4 straight BJ cups in a row without resting in between. I have made it to 3 before (the fourth by jerking myself off in her face) and I have a feeling that Alicia would be an ideal SW with whom to try to break my record.

Ratings: Face: 4 stars (pretty but not 5 star material); Body: 3 ½ stars (not terrible, but a bit too thin for my taste; I prefer to have some shape and substance, especially the ass); BJ: 5 stars pus (this gal’s mouth was made for sucking); Fucking: 3 stars (average, nothing more); Attitude; 5 stars (very personable and very willing to please, especially orally); Overall; 4 stars (but 5 stars as a BJ date); Repeatable? She can suck my cock any time. YMMV

PS: Immediately subsequent to my date with Alicia I got some intel about her that was less than flattering. Normally I am not in the habit of spreading second hand rumors or gossip circulating the K but this information came from someone who was involved in this first hand. A monger friend had decided to take Alicia under his wing before our date. She had told him she was trying to get clean and leave the life so he was supplying her with funds on a regular basis. He is a soft touch and believed her. He was really pissed when he found out she was continuing to date because she had told him that the money he was giving her was keeping her away from that. It wasn’t a jealousy thing with him, just a matter of lying on her part and his being a chump by giving her money. He also saw her get into a guy’s car after I had told him about our date, and also saw her ‘bobbing for apples’ in another monger’s parked car. I have also discovered from another source that she is doing this with several guys and having them deliver money to the pimp’s place where she lives with other SWs. This did not happen to me directly, but a word to the wise would be in order. This SW is apparently not as innocent as she acts and apparently will play you if given the opportunity.

Be careful out there.

Supereloquent

03-17-10, 12:56

A few more of Alicia sucking.

Supereloquent

03-18-10, 05:19

Where do they consider the south stroll or southern end on the ave.

I don't know where "they" consider it to be, but for me the dividing line between the northern and southern end of the stroll on the K is Allegheny.

Supereloquent

03-18-10, 05:35

I guess it has some merit but come on. These are SW's supporting a habit and trying to survive and make money. It's all about playing the game. There game is to get in our pockets for as much as they can. Our game is to get our dicks wet for as less as we can. That simple.

Nothing is "that simple" on the stroll. Not all SWs are the same and not all mongers are the same. If the information was not valuable for you, then, fine, ignore it. But please don't be the self-declared know-it-all of the streets to the degree that you feel you can summarize everything for everyone in a few sentences, or, worse yet, two words.

Johnboy

03-18-10, 08:08

PS: Immediately subsequent to my date with Alicia I got some intel about her that was less than flattering. Normally I am not in the habit of spreading second hand rumors or gossip circulating the K but this information came from someone who was involved in this first hand. A monger friend had decided to take Alicia under his wing before our date. She had told him she was trying to get clean and leave the life so he was supplying her with funds on a regular basis. He is a soft touch and believed her. He was really pissed when he found out she was continuing to date because she had told him that the money he was giving her was keeping her away from that. It wasn’t a jealousy thing with him, just a matter of lying on her part and his being a chump by giving her money. He also saw her get into a guy’s car after I had told him about our date, and also saw her ‘bobbing for apples’ in another monger’s parked car. I have also discovered from another source that she is doing this with several guys and having them deliver money to the pimp’s place where she lives with other SWs. This did not happen to me directly, but a word to the wise would be in order. This SW is apparently not as innocent as she acts and apparently will play you if given the opportunity.

Be careful out there.
I can understand why he would be pissed by this, but it is part of the game. I am currently in a situation with a girl from Camden that has found a "sugar daddy" and is not working the streets anymore. I have her number and see her occasionally because she was always a fun date. She definitly looks better and has an improved attitude, but she still gets high every time I give her money. I wish I could help her get off the streets because she misses her kids, but it seems she still prefers to drugs over family. My point is that supporting a SW is a recipe for disaster and it takes a lot more than funds to help them get clean. I do beleive that not all SW are out to play you regardless of the stereotype and its not hard to feel sorry for them when you listen to their stories. Sometimes listening to them or buying them some food is better than money and makes them happier.
JB

Acro782

03-18-10, 14:14

If the information was not valuable for you, then, fine, ignore it. But please don't be the self-declared know-it-all of the streets to the degree that you feel you can summarize everything for everyone in a few sentences, or, worse yet, two words.Hmm. You calling someone a self-declared know-it-all? The irony. In the first statement, you ask him to simply ignore a post if it didn't provide valuable info for him, then proceed to ignore your own advice and resort to name-calling and telling him what he should or shouldn't do.

While Pedey's tone might have been a bit abrasive, he was simply stating his point of view. I think you make a valid point in that sometimes things are not as simple as it seems, but I also think it crosses the line to then dictate what he can or can't be or should or shouldn't say. Last time I checked, this was still a free country.

Supereloquent

03-18-10, 19:16

I don't know if I missed something, I apologize, but I noticed that the Pics/Photo thread by DukePV has been closed. I think those photos are very useful to fellow mongers since we use it as reference to identify beauties on the K. Can somebody open one for 2010? I'm a regular member so I can't create a thread. Can one of the seniors open one please?

Thanks.

I wrote to the Admin some time ago and volunteered to keep the photo thread current. I never heard a peep. The photo thread is special in that only the person running it can access it to add/change photos or change the format, etc. If a normal thread is set up, changes can only be made for a 24 hour period to any one post, and anyone can post to it, which might quickly clutter the organization and format. The photo thread had an open post format, and additions and changes could be made at any time. It also had an ability to keep the pic postings currently organized alphabetically by year, include ratings, and had program links to the various reports on each SW. Unless the Admin opens this up again and allows someone to run it, it is pretty much dead in the water as it used to exist. I am not quite certain why it was closed in the first place.

Supereloquent

03-18-10, 19:27

Hmm. You calling someone a self-declared know-it-all? The irony. In the first statement, you ask him to simply ignore a post if it didn't provide valuable info for him, then proceed to ignore your own advice and resort to name-calling and telling him what he should or shouldn't do.

I think you just did the same thing of which you accuse me.

While Pedey's tone might have been a bit abrasive, he was simply stating his point of view. I think you make a valid point in that sometimes things are not as simple as it seems, but I also think it crosses the line to then dictate what he can or can't be or should or shouldn't say. Last time I checked, this was still a free country.

So, Pedey lives in a free country and can express his opinion but I can't express mine right back to him? I was "stating my point of view" as well. But I guess that right only applies to people you deem qualified, i.e. people who disagree with me.

Acro782

03-18-10, 20:56

I think you just did the same thing of which you accuse me.

So, Pedey lives in a free country and can express his opinion but I can't express mine right back to him? I was "stating my point of view" as well. But I guess that right only applies to people you deem qualified, I. E. People who disagree with me.You're missing my point altogether. I agree with the points you brought up about not making overly broad generalizations. You made your case, and Pedey made his. My objection was that you then proceeded to tell someone what he should or shouldn't do; that's his own call isn't it? Your reviews and pics are interesting, SE, but that doesn't provide license to then dictate what others can or can't do. And if we do decide to the contrary, that doesn't make us a "self-proclaimed know-it-all. " Again, you don't see the irony in someone that uses the moniker, Supereloquent, accusing someone else of that?

Yorkfun

03-19-10, 08:07

I think I will lean on the side of experience. Take a look at the number of posts for each involved. I think a little respect is due a menber with close to 1ooo post and very good intell. Please keep up the good work Super.

Mythbuster

03-19-10, 10:20

I wrote to the Admin some time ago and volunteered to keep the photo thread current. I never heard a peep. The photo thread is special in that only the person running it can access it to add/change photos or change the format, etc. If a normal thread is set up, changes can only be made for a 24 hour period to any one post, and anyone can post to it, which might quickly clutter the organization and format. The photo thread had an open post format, and additions and changes could be made at any time. It also had an ability to keep the pic postings currently organized alphabetically by year, include ratings, and had program links to the various reports on each SW. Unless the Admin opens this up again and allows someone to run it, it is pretty much dead in the water as it used to exist. I am not quite certain why it was closed in the first place.My best guess is that it was closed by owner after he tired of all complaint about girls that didn't make his list.

Supereloquent

03-19-10, 10:28

I dated Carol last year around this time and I have been looking for her since. On our first date she didn’t open her eyes the whole time, and I dubbed her “Sleepyhead Carol,” (a nick which seems to have stuck, well, in here anyway). However, she was cute as a button, did a terrific BBBJ when she finally got into action and was one screaming, dirty talking little minx when fucking. I was hopeful to find her again sometime, more awake and perhaps even more fun. I now prefer the sleepyhead version of Carol, and you will soon understand why.

I had some intel from other mongers that Carol was again being spotted and dated on the south end of the stroll. Sure enough, I saw her sitting on a bench. If you didn’t know she was a SW you might certainly have thought she was a civvie waiting for the bus, because she wasn’t looking at passing cars or acting like she was working. She was just sitting there fixing her make-up, which is something she seems to do almost constantly, even when you are driving with her.

I couldn’t get her attention while driving by or even stopped at the light directly beside her, so I pulled around the corner and approached her on foot. She was hanging there with Mariah (I recognized her from Cooky’s photos; I think some other mongers may have done a report on her too) and Crazy Nicole. Both Mariah and Nicole were much more alert, observant and aggressive than Carol and were on me like white on rice, soliciting a date. Carol just continued to sit there applying her make-up. I walked right up to her and asked her if she was available for a date. She wrinkled her nose and forehead like she was thinking about it, and didn’t say anything, but grabbed her purse and started walking with me to my car.

Carol was much more alert than I have ever seen her, but I am not sure if that is a good thing. Last time she didn’t say much of anything at all, but this time she talked very slowly like there was a delay from her brain to her mouth and there was a speed limit on the words. She seemed to be alert and not high so I guess that is just what she is like normally. I don’t expect a SW to be an Ivy League scholar or a sparkling conversationalist, but this was far below even the SW standard for small talk. It seemed like I had to drag the words out of her just to have a conversation. She didn’t remember me (not surprising; she was high as a kite on our first date) and she didn’t ask where we were going, what we were doing or talk about prices. She mostly looked in my visor mirror and applied her make-up and had begrudging and labored discussion. I was hopeful this wasn’t reflective of a bad or flat attitude, but my instincts were telling me that some things about Carol were going to be different this time and, as usual, my intuition was correct.

When we got to the room at the Carlyle I told her we had dated before and that her eyes had been closed the whole time. She said that was probably because she had been heavily on Xannies. She claimed that was the only thing she had ever taken and she still takes a few every now and then. She agreed to pics and a few cups of FS, and she still didn’t negotiate a price or ask for any money up front. She is a SW veteran, so my only guess there is that her street sense was correctly telling her I would be fair and pay her acceptably.

She was rather unenthusiastic about the pic taking, unlike last time where I probably could have taken pics forever, even though her eyes were closed the whole time (which was a shame because she has really alluring and pretty eyes). She showed moments of real promise in her poses and facial expressions but soon grew tired of the pics and wanted to get down to business. There were many things about Carol that were different and this annoying impatience was one of them. Another was that she had developed quite a pot belly on herself. I was bold enough to ask her if she was pregnant, but she either lied when she said no, or she needs to lay off the calories and get more exercise. At one time I understand she was a thin and petite spinner. When I took her pics last year she had gained quite a bit of weight according to mongers who knew her before and commented on the pics; now she is just getting quite pudgy: face, neck and especially her tummy.

Another thing different about Carol is that she would only do a CBJ. She used to do a great BBBJ, but I couldn’t convince her to do it BB. She was quite stubborn about it. Also, the BJ wasn’t up to the standard she had set for herself before. She could still DT me but there was just something missing compared to before and others I have had. I know she has the skills because I experienced them before, but her heart just wasn’t in it, like she was just going through the motions. She lacked the BJ enthusiasm and energy she had expressed on our first date (when she periodically came out of her Xannie coma). The same was true of fucking. It was a wooden fuck. Before she had screamed like crazy and spouted exciting dirty talk. Now she said she was too “shy” for that, and didn’t even want to hear dirty talk. She has a cute face, a nice ass and a tight, shaved pussy, but there is more to having an enjoyable fuck than looking good. The whole experience ranked just slightly above doing it with an inflatable doll. It was so mediocre that I wasn’t even motivated to have a second round of FS, and that is rare for me. I just jerked off in her face for the second cup. Maybe I was thinking perversely that I was giving her some more liquid to mix with all her make-up (hey, we have already established that I am a sick fuck….LOL). :D

Ratings? Face: 5 stars (rounder and heavier, but still cute as a button); Body: 3 ½ stars (I just can’t get past the belly; it has really gotten huge and disproportionate to the rest of her; she looks several months pregnant; her tits are bigger because of the weight, but her ass is flatter; some compensating pros and cons); BJ: 3 stars (average); Fucking: 3 stars (average; I almost lowered this but it wasn’t a ‘bad’ fuck, just mediocre); Attitude: 3 stars (not a bad attitude, just not a great one); Overall Experience: 3 stars (very average); Repeatable? Carol is still a cutie but I think I will pass in the future compared to better dates available on the Ave. YMMV

Supereloquent

03-19-10, 10:31

Not as good as last time but cute face and alluring eyes.

Supereloquent

03-19-10, 11:45

My mistake. The girl I was talking to out on Allegheny was Katie and not Kate. The one I was talking to I don't think anyone would be looking for after some of the things I read about her. Sorry for not paying more attention to the name. T

There are more than a few Katies but was this the "bad Katie" (also has been known as 'blond Katie" in the past, but is now a brunette) I have reported negatively about who lives near Ontario and the K?

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=793299&postcount=106

Or possibly was it the Katie I recently reported on who hangs at the far northern end of the stroll?

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=952530&postcount=1036

Supereloquent

03-19-10, 14:02

You're missing my point altogether. I agree with the points you brought up about not making overly broad generalizations. You made your case, and Pedey made his. My objection was that you then proceeded to tell someone what he should or shouldn't do; that's his own call isn't it? Your reviews and pics are interesting, SE, but that doesn't provide license to then dictate what others can or can't do. And if we do decide to the contrary, that doesn't make us a "self-proclaimed know-it-all. " Again, you don't see the irony in someone that uses the moniker, Supereloquent, accusing someone else of that?

We already heard this whine from you. Whaaaaaah! Whaaaaaah Whaaaaaah! Give it a rest already and get a life. Pull the fucking panties out that are bunched in your ass crack, newbie, and post some useful reporting and intelligence here rather than continuing to focus on this same, tired, nit-picking, ranting, rock-throwing horseshit that nobody cares about but you.

Member #4703

03-19-10, 14:16

Last time I checked I thought that a girl's "cum" was actually just piss. It's not cum in the original sense. But that's beside the point. There had to be a blue pill involved in all of this, because there is no way I could go there natural. Must less more than once. She kind of looks like a younger Bill Clinton with a mullett. I 've got too much of a weak stomach to go near Fatty Maddie. It was tough to even get through those pics. Ooof.

Supereloquent

03-19-10, 14:54

Last time I checked I thought that a girl's "cum" was actually just piss. It's not cum in the original sense,

I don't know what the hell cum "in the original sense" is, but you apparently haven't "checked" out this subject very thoroughly. Here's just one source (Wikipedia), but there are many, many more. People may disagree about lots of things regarding female cum, but one thing informed sources do agree about is that it is NOT piss!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation

But that's beside the point. There had to be a blue pill involved in all of this, because there is no way I could go there natural. Must less more than once.

What can I say? You and I are obviously different. I am oversexed. Believe it, don't believe it, whatever. I have nothing to prove. It is what it is. If I ever took a "little blue pill" I would have a hard on for a lot longer than the 4 hour warning they give you on the TV commercial.

I 've got too much of a weak stomach to go near Fatty Maddie. It was tough to even get through those pics. Ooof.

Nobody forced you to look. I am sure your SW tastes are too refined for us bottom feeders. I have read through your posts, and I see no pics nor much information of any sort to get a sense of your tastes regarding or experience with SWs. You are more a blabbermouth about nothing and a rock throwing complainer than anything else.

....I would have done the girl (Maddie)...To each his own, is my motto.

At least 2 great minds think alike. It's unfortunate that you, Spider Man, aren't among us.

T Shirt

03-19-10, 19:43

There are more than a few Katies but was this the "bad Katie" (also has been known as 'blond Katie" in the past, but is now a brunette) I have reported negatively about who lives near Ontario and the K?

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=793299&postcount=106

Or possibly was it the Katie I recently reported on who hangs at the far northern end of the stroll?

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=952530&postcount=1036There are more than a few Katies but was this the "bad Katie" (also has been known as 'blond Katie" in the past, but is now a brunette) I have reported negatively about who lives near Ontario and the K?

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/s...9&postcount=106
This is the one I was talking to, the bad Katie. She used to date a very good friend of mine a few years back and he spoke very highly of her but then she began to change and not for the good based on the reports I seen on here. Even in her heyday she wasn't my cup of tea so I only knew her to chat with for a minute when she would come to my friends garage to visit him.

T

Mike 80

03-19-10, 21:45

Supereloquent

03-19-10, 21:53

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=793299&postcount=106

This is the one I was talking to, the bad Katie. She used to date a very good friend of mine a few years back and he spoke very highly of her but then she began to change and not for the good based on the reports I seen on here. Even in her heyday she wasn't my cup of tea so I only knew her to chat with for a minute when she would come to my friends garage to visit him.

T

Bad Katie is BAD news! Read my reports on her if you have any doubts. I have personal experience with her trying to shortchange me and extort me. SWs change and she obviously changed from good to bad. Maybe she changed back again; anything is possible, but I would be VERY wary of her if I were you.

Supereloquent

03-19-10, 22:45

Man, except for those distinctive almond-shaped eyes, she looks like a whole different person now from the one I picked up and reported on. Seeing how much older she looks I was thinking it must be 3 years or so but I checked the archives and see it was only Nov 2008. Obviously from a health standpoint it's better that she's chunky than CCL, but for my tastes this not-much older Carol is definitely less physically appealing than when she was a fresh-faced very petite 20yo.

Yes, Carol does have lovely and distinctive almond-shaped eyes, and this time at least I got to see them. I first dated Carol just last year and she already looked much different from her initial appearance on the stroll as a thin spinner. You can still spin her, but you would have to eat your Wheaties first....LOL.

Sounds like the years on the street and lessened meds are making her a much less desirable date too. Better for her I suppose, but not so good for her paying customers.

YMMV always applies and I must allow that perhaps she was having an off day. My date with her wasn't bad; it was just very mediocre in comparison to the last time I saw her (when she was high). She didn't measure up to what I personally prefer in a SW date, and she suffered in comparison IMHO to many other better current choices on the Ave.

Any news on her sister? Is she is still in the game?

Actually I did ask about her sister and apparently she is out of the life, has a kid and a man and is very happy.

I so wanted to have them together once I found out they were sisters and would do threesomes, at least back then. Unfortunately, before knowing that, when I had my chance I kicked her sister to the curb not wanting two girls in the car at the same time.

I have done many civvie threesomes but never a SW threesome, despite many years of mongering. Doing sisters I imagine would add some spice to the equation. I plan to put a SW threesome on the menu sometime soon, and I admire the way Cooky is often able to put one together.

As for Maddie, I'm not into that kind of thing so your experience was a little out there for me, but it certainly made for an interesting report.

I am what I am and I have no qualms about it. I have been a serious practitioner of BDSM with civvie dates for a long time. SWs usually aren't into it and I am not one to force any woman to do anything she doesn't enjoy, not even a SW. Maddie was a combination of BDSM civvie turned SW for the day, so I went for it.

You had to know that at least of a couple of our "upper-class" AMP purist brethren would be sure and tear into you for that post, so I give you props for sharing it.

Those seeking "higher quality women" for hire wouldn't be shopping on the K or any other such place. It is the bargain basement area of the store. Comparing a "high-class," high-priced hooker at a MP or from the internet or an escort service to a SW on the K would be like comparing a steak dinner and a hoagie. They aren't remotely similar enough to be comparable (although SOMETIMES they are the very same), and one costs a lot more than the other. Does that make it better? It all depends for what you are hungry and the amount you desire to spend. Purists who think that the only women worth paying for are in a MP or advertise on line or come from an escort service should understand that many of those same women are available on the K at a significant discount, and I have personal experience with many of these very women: steak dinners at hoagie prices. It doesn't get too much better than that.

Although some readers may think that my writing reports and taking pics has something to do with ego, I assure you that it does not. It is a personal diary, albeit publicized, of my SW experiences. I am not trying to impress anyone with the quality of woman I am able to secure for payment, as if that were somehow a reflection of my worth as well. I am not exclusively seeking "trophy SWs," although I certainly wouldn't turn any down at the right price. It is my belief that if a man is secure with himself that he will be totally comfortable with what he enjoys in a female, not because of what "beauty" or other standards others may try to impose on him externally, but rather because he likes what he likes. I find a wide range of women appealing, and I am an equal opportunity monger in many respects. I don't just date SWs who are perfect physical specimens, although anyone who has been a regular reader of my reports and pics will note that I have dated my fair share of incredibly hot looking SWs. But I also have dated average and even below average looking SWs, chubbies (even fatties) and MILFs. I truly do feel that much of the appeal I find with a woman lies between her ears, and not just between her legs. Attitude means a lot.

As to taste in SWs: when I read a monger here severely criticizing the looks of a SW another monger dated and for whom pics were provided, my main conclusion is that the criticizing monger has self esteem issues that need to be confirmed by some "absolute" standards that may or may not be his own. I suspect that he wants others to believe that he is somehow "better" because he would have us think that his standards for selection are higher. It is interesting that most of such criticizing mongers rarely provide us with pics of their exploits to demonstrate for us the "excellence" to which the rest of us should aspire. Contrary to the anonymity of the criticizers and rock throwers, those who post pics are more typically comfortable in their own skins and with their predilections, desires and choices in SWs. They generally will have a more relaxed philosophy that I have often read Cookyjar exemplify in one fashion or another by saying: "to each his own."

T Shirt

03-19-10, 23:18

Bad Katie is BAD news! Read my reports on her if you have any doubts. I have personal experience with her trying to shortchange me and extort me. SWs change and she obviously changed from good to bad. Maybe she changed back again; anything is possible, but I would be VERY wary of her if I were you.What I was trying to say is I ran into her quite by accident while visiting a good friend out at 22nd st. On her very best day I would not and did not go anywhere near her, she just wasn't my type ever. Thanks for the warning though but it was just a chance meeting with my friends former date. I have no interest in her and never will. By the way I did read your report and it seems to be in line with what I was hearing about her in the neighborhood too. Thanks for your concern Super, but believe me, there's nothing to worry about as far as I'm concerned.

T

Supereloquent

03-20-10, 10:40

RE: Incredibly brilliant 'advice' from Mythbuster:

"Your friend could have avoided all this by getting a room."

Gee, ya think? What insightful analysis! Just the advice I and every other monger out there who goes on car dates couldn't figure out and were waiting for with baited breath!

What a fucking MOOK you are Mythbuster. It's no wonder that I placed you on ignore. Fortunately I only have to read your dumb-ass comments when someone else responds to you.

Member #3969

03-20-10, 12:02

I had not paid any attention to this person until now. Today upon seeing your post I checked him out a little bit closer. He/She/It has 147 posts in just over four (4) months and out of them I didn't see A SINGLE REPORT!

Maybe I did miss one out of all the crap he posts but if I did who can blame me? What I saw was just a whole string of BS comments and a variety of stupid remarks against several "legends" here such as Super, Cooky and even Glenn.

What useful purpose does this serve? Why has it been allowed to reach this point? I don't really know but I will officially add this "person" to my ignore list as well. So congrats there Mythbuster as you've made the list and will never make it off.

P.S. This is not an attempt to start a flame war or a pissing match at all. I am just wondering how he could reach this extent without "being reported to the moderator" and banned due to the actions.

RE: Incredibly brilliant 'advice' from Mythbuster:

"Your friend could have avoided all this by getting a room. "

What a fucking MOOK you are Mythbuster. It's no wonder that I placed you on ignore. Fortunately I only have to read your dumb-ass comments when someone else responds to you.

Supereloquent

03-20-10, 13:43

I had not paid any attention to this person until now. Today upon seeing your post I checked him out a little bit closer. He/She/It has 147 posts in just over four (4) months and out of them I didn't see A SINGLE REPORT!

It is somewhat of an oversimplification, but non-contributors of reports and intelligence generally have the most rocks to throw and the dumbest things to say. That goes double for members who don't post pics, but seem to have lots of opinions about the "quality" of the SWs for those who do post pics. This isn't Penthouse folks; we are talking finding women, often severely drug addicted, on the streets to pay for sex. If you want Sports Illustrated bikini models I suggest you take a copy into the bathroom and whack off to your heart's content.

Maybe I did miss one out of all the crap he posts but if I did who can blame me? What I saw was just a whole string of BS comments and a variety of stupid remarks against several "legends" here such as Super, Cooky and even Glenn.

I have been accused of being overly sensitive, and I have taken some of this crap too seriously from time to time. I should take a page from Cooky's book and completely ignore some of these idiotic flamers. With Mythbuster I actually got to my boiling point, and simply placed him on ignore. It has done wonders for my blood pressure. However, every now and then I see a glimpse of his idiocy in a response from another member, and I can't resist the urge to give this dumb ass-wipe a written jab in the ribs.

What useful purpose does this serve? Why has it been allowed to reach this point? I don't really know but I will officially add this "person" to my ignore list as well. So congrats there Mythbuster as you've made the list and will never make it off.

That's one way to go, and it is a way I have chosen to deal with the totally useless Mythbuster.

P.S. This is not an attempt to start a flame war or a pissing match at all. I am just wondering how he could reach this extent without "being reported to the moderator" and banned due to the actions.

There should be some rules in this forum regarding continuously useless and disruptively negative or stupid posts, but that would be difficult to judge and administer. Unless a member is specifically and egregiously breaking some forum rules, then they will likely continue to hang around unscathed. We can report them as annoyances to the Admin and eventually enough complaints will get them removed. Other ways to go are to place them on ignore as you and I have decided to do with Mythbuster or just shout them down and eventually shame the stupid fuckers into silence. Unfortunately too much of that can clutter the threads which provide useful information. However, that's why I opened the "Fight Club" thread, so that ongoing arguments and shout downs can be moved there and members who just want information and pics and aren't interested in all these stupid assholes and their comments and bickering can avoid all that horseshit if they don't want to read it.

Supereloquent

03-21-10, 13:02

If you don’t care for big girls, HSWs, or SWs with a lot of tats, then save yourself the aggravation and stop reading or looking right here. Sabrina, however, is one of the best dates you are likely to come across in any of these categories. She is a fun gal, warm and pleasant, and up for just about anything. I have had a number of car dates with Sabrina, but never an indoor date, and I always wanted to experience that with her, so this was my chance. I also had never done a photo spread of her and this was also my opportunity for that as well.

We went to a nice motel. I was going to bring along her buddy Samantha, who I have also dated before, but I had some reservations about that, even though I have been meaning to try a SW threesome. I will get into the reasons why I chose not to have a threesome on this particular date a bit later.

Sabrina was very anxious to pose. She is aware of the USA Sex Guide, can access it on her phone, and was like a little girl at Christmas asking me when I was going to post the pics so she could see them. She was interested to see all the poses, but particularly to see the pics of her sucking cock, because she said she never had pics taken like that before, and was looking forward to seeing them posted. She was also anxious to see the pics I had taken of her buddy Samantha, and I explained to her how to find them. I also explained to Sabrina that Samantha had some issues on my last date with her which were a turn off, and that was the reason I didn’t bring her along. Samantha is good looking (even though she has gained some weight as a recent guest of the state), loves to talk dirty (is VERY good at the “Daddy” and “cum piggie” things), and can be a fun suck and fuck, but she has a bad-habit tendency to hurry you. She wasn’t but a few minutes into our BJ on my last date with her and she was pushing to fuck, and she wasn’t but a few minutes into the fuck and she was asking if I was ready to cum yet. She needs to learn that this can be a big downer. Sabrina nodded and said she had been on a threesome date with Samantha once and Samantha was fucking the guy, and she didn’t even have all her clothes off yet and was asking him if he was going to cum already. Sabrina thought that was so funny in the way and when she said it that she had to go into the bathroom to laugh. So she understood what I was telling her. She said she would have a “pep talk” with Samantha about this and maybe we could arrange a threesome at a future time.

Sabrina is a natural “model” and has a sexy “big girl” look. Some guys don’t like big girls or tats and prefer skinny girls with a more unspoiled look. I like the pristine, fresh-faced, spinner, girl-next-door look as much as anyone. However I also happen to find Sabrina’s big tits, big ass, tats, open-mindedness and warm personality very appealing.

Sabrina gives a good BBBJ: not top-of–the-line, outstanding, best you ever had, but way above average. She is enthusiastic, can DT, is wet and sloppy and will do anything you ask like suck or lick your balls or lick your cock or anything you want. She takes your whole load, swallows it and gives you a big knowing smile.

Sabrina is fun to fuck. She is a bit heavy and a little awkward to do CG or RCG but she is very flexible for a big gal to do mish and she is absolutely perfect to do doggie. She will say anything dirty that you ask of her, although she giggles with it, so it isn’t exactly sincere or convincing, as if she amusingly thinks you are harmlessly warped. But it is hot nonetheless. Fucking her doggie is THE way to end a fucking session with her. She has a terrific ass, and you can pound the ever loving shit out of her from behind while grabbing onto and/or slapping that tempting ass because she is absolutely made for that. Anyone who enjoys a big bottomed gal, or just a girl with a large, round, well shaped ass would find Sabrina to his liking.

Ratings? Face: 4 stars (pretty enough but not quite 5 star material); Body: 4 stars (she could stand to lose some weight around the middle but she has nice tits and an especially nice ass and looks very good for a big girl); BJ: 4 1/2 stars (way above average but not perfect); Fucking: 5 stars (what carried this high rating is having her doggie; that is definitely a 5 star experience); Attitude: 5 stars plus; Overall: solid 4 ½ stars (way above average); Repeatable? Yes (not perfect or outstanding, but certainly fun and worthwhile doing again) YMMV

Supereloquent

03-21-10, 13:06

Some shots of her tits and her sucking on them, her tats and her nice ass. I especially like the contrasting look on Sabrina20: 'cutesy' with tats: gotta love it.

Supereloquent

03-21-10, 13:15

Based on past view count experience, most of you will be looking at Sabrina24, where she spreads open her pussy and ass for you to get a good look. But ever since I viewed a particular angle in one of Cooky's photo spreads I have become quite fond of the angle and look of Sabrina21. That angle appeals to me and IMHO makes most girls who pose that way look very sexy.

BTW: How do you like Sabrina25 and Sabrina26 with the "Fuck Me" choker?

Supereloquent

03-21-10, 13:19

You have to love the facial expressions, the tongue piercing, the ball and cock licking, the halfway to DT and the messy spittle mixed with cum dripping from her mouth.

Supereloquent

03-21-10, 13:25

I usually only post 10 of these type per SW encounter, but these were so good (to me anyway) that I had to post a few more.

Notice Sabrina's very clean and very well manicured and decorated nails as in Sabrina41 and Sabrina46. The rest of her was just as clean. This is a SW who takes real pride in her hygiene.

Mad Monger

03-21-10, 14:33

Wow, that's some rant from you, dude. Guess someone's got their "panties all bunched up", and I am pretty sure it's not me. LOL. What's next? You going to put your fingers in your ears, close your eyes, then say "la la la la la"? Look, trotting out the whole "I'm a regular and you're a newbie" argument gets really tiresome. Some of us prefer to exchange certain info via backchannel, and that's our choice. Might I suggest that if you don't want to debate a point on its merits, that you follow your own advice on ignoring it?The 'point' I gather you have been constantly and annoyingly trying to make is that Super told someone what to do? Firstly, I don't see where that was the case. Secondly, that is totally irrelevant; even if it was the case, why do YOU give a flying fuck? Are you the self-appointed defender of first amendment rights on behalf of everyone in this forum? Thirdly, you yourself have TOLD Super what to do a number of times already, including what you just said ("... follow your own advice on ignoring it?)! So, go and do what you advise others to do, or am I telling you what to do, and only YOU are allowed to do that?

Let go of your hard on, asshole, and go find another sandbox to play in. You have precious little posts here and all you seem to want to do is attack a valuable contributor to this forum with your picky-shit nonsense. Keep it up and I am sure that I and many others will complain to have your ass thrown out of here.

I am really sick and tired of silly, self-important, non-contributing dick-wads like you getting exercised about bullshit like this and then continuing to harp on it like anyone gives a rat’s ass. If you are so in love with the "back-channel" then stay there. Hopefully what that means is that you need to take a few up the ass. You are so obviously envious and clearly obsessed with, in Super’s words, “nit-picky horseshit.” Until and unless you have some useful intelligence to contribute to this forum, do us all a favor and shut the fuck up and stop polluting Super’s thread with your dumb fucking tirades, disguised as moralistic concerns for freedom of speech. Nobody is tricked into thinking that you have some higher purpose in mind, and a fool can see that you violate the very principles you purport to defend. You just like to see yourself in print throwing rocks. As Super already told you, give it a rest and get a life, and give us a fucking break as well! Some of us are actually more interested in the useful information and intelligence that Super has to share than your inexperienced and pin-headed perspective.

If I were Super I would ignore your dumb ass, not because you TOLD him to, but because you have a hair across it for whatever reason and you have nothing useful to say that is in the spirit and the purpose of this forum.

Keep up your good work Super and completely ignore this idiotic SOB.

Mike Sweeney

03-21-10, 15:50

Member #5237

03-21-10, 16:33

I enjoy reading all of Super`s reports on his finds. Although I may not fuck all of the same girls he has, he gives enough details that I can picture everything in the report in my head. Another plus: his spelling and punctuation are always 100%. I think I speak for alot of people when I say I hate reading posts that ramble on and on with no periods, commas, question marks, etc... And there is no excuse for not being able to spell some of the simplest words in the English language. If you speak like you write, maybe that was the reason you received poor service, or not the level of service you were expecting at a MP. I proof read ALL of my posts before I send them. A typo or another mistake may slip by me, but I do make the effort to correct my mistakes.
Super......keep up the good work. I wish I had your budget.

Acro782

03-21-10, 16:38

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Supereloquent

03-21-10, 16:53

I am not in a position to be out there mongering right now, and probably don't have much of a right to voice my opinion, and I'm sure Super doesn't need anyone to defend him, so I would just say to the newbie's and negative posters, just sit back and enjoy the work people like Super and Cookie do, they do a great job!!!

Thanks for your vote of support.

Every now and then some newbie and/or non-contributing wastrel in here gets in the mood to throw a few rocks at me. Why? Maybe it's because I present a big target with lots of posts and information. Maybe they are bored and hungry 'cause mama's tit dried up. Who knows?

Legitimate comments and criticisms are normal and natural. We are all different and we all have different points of view. There is a point, however, where the discussion departs from intelligent discourse and just becomes a personal vendetta. Sometimes I know what caused it and sometimes it is a mystery. In the case of a recent annoying poster, it started because he PMed me offering a new phone number for a SW I already knew and then, after I said I was interested, wanted a number from me to "trade" for it. He said that I should have known such was implied in the offer (although never stated) and I said I wasn't interested in "trading," that I already knew the SW in question and could get her new number myself. Perhaps what he should have realized is that "implicit" conditions work both ways. If someone gave me a digit I really wanted and it worked out and was legit, then I am certainly going to be a stand-up guy and do him a solid in return. But he hadn't chosen to play it that way. He got his nose all bent out of shape for what he claimed was the audacious and haughty presumption on my part that he was going to just give me a digit without a specific and immediate payback in kind. He wrote a bunch of nonsense to me about being a big shot senior member, etc. because I didn't assume what he thought should be obvious, and because I wouldn't do what what he wanted me to do. Afterward, he started attacking me publicly in my thread on a nonsensical point he continually and insistently pressed forward. The amusing thing is that the supposed point at issue had absolutely nothing to do with him. He was just looking to pick a fight and have me knuckle under to his "argument." It was not a coincidence nor was it obviously even a legitimate concern of his. Let's call a spade a spade: it was a childish tantrum and "revenge" for feeling "snubbed" and not getting his way. He was trying to show me, the big senior member, that he could take me down a few pegs and shove me around.

We had another member like this (remember Silverfox?) who continually and nastily attacked me, all beginning with a similar PM issue: that I didn't share with him a SW's digits that he thought I should. His tirades finally got so ridiculously negative and threatening that he was thrown out of this forum and he currently resides in the Hall of Shame. Who knows? Maybe this is Silverfox making a comeback under another screen name. But the fact remains that this silly nonsense has no place in this forum.

Level-headed members can see this for what it is. You have weighed in on it as have others from time to time. These bullies want to try to push me around and/or get a rise out of me. I can think of several reasons why, and none of the reasons are flattering to the bullies, reflect legitimate concerns or are useful to furthering the objectives of this forum. These are just punks and thugs who have nothing better to do than disrupt and spout venom, see themselves in print, perhaps get "even" in some perverse way from a PM where they feel they didn't get what they should have, and gain a sense of importance by getting into a shoving and shouting match with a visible senior contributing member to this forum. For a while my inclination with such crap is to fight fire with fire and lay into them, but this soon becomes tedious and clutters up my thread with nonsense fighting, which probably suits them just fine. So, when I have gotten it off my chest, which I have with this particular bully, it is time to ignore him and his baiting, and return to providing useful reports and pics. I am sure readers of my thread would much prefer that to the continued ravings of someone with a hidden (and now exposed) agenda and a chip on his shoulder.

Mr Voyager

03-21-10, 18:55

Sabrina is fun to fuck. She is a bit heavy and a little awkward to do CG or RCG but she is very flexible for a big gal to do mish and she is absolutely perfect to do doggie. She will say anything dirty that you ask of her, although she giggles with it, so it isn’t exactly sincere or convincing, as if she amusingly thinks you are harmlessly warped. But it is hot nonetheless. Fucking her doggie is THE way to end a fucking session with her. She has a terrific ass, and you can pound the ever loving shit out of her from behind while grabbing onto and/or slapping that tempting ass because she is absolutely made for that. Anyone who enjoys a big bottomed gal, or just a girl with a large, round, well shaped ass would find Sabrina to his liking.

I have taken a sabbatical from mongering but after the reports from you and CJ, I am going to have to go out and find this Sabirna for myslf and get the first hand experience and post my own phto spread.

Thanks for your work and contributions. You and CJ are inspirations to make me get back out there and do the damn thing!

Supereloquent

03-21-10, 19:25

I have taken a sabbatical from mongering but after the reports from you and CJ, I am going to have to go out and find this Sabirna for myslf and get the first hand experience and post my own phto spread.

Thanks for your work and contributions. You and CJ are inspirations to make me get back out there and do the damn thing!

I am happy this inspired you. The more contributors we have with reports and pics the better.

Your positive response sure beats the rantings of negative assholes in here who can't seem to get the bugs out of their butts.

Supereloquent

03-21-10, 20:57

I enjoy reading all of Super`s reports on his finds. Although I may not fuck all of the same girls he has, he gives enough details that I can picture everything in the report in my head.

Thanks for the props. My reports are as much for my own recollection as for your enjoyment. I am actually writing a book about my sex life, from sexual awakening forward, the working title for which is currently "Revelations of a Sex Addict," the last section of which will be my exploits on the Philly strolls. The reports in this forum are as good a way as any to keep straight dates and SWs and events. I only wish I would have kept a more detailed record in my youth, for which my memory recall is more sketchy. Writing here is a discipline that goes a long way towards my remembering all the details.

Another plus: his spelling and punctuation are always 100%. I think I speak for alot of people when I say I hate reading posts that ramble on and on with no periods, commas, question marks, etc...

Well, my English is not quite 100% perfect. A few purists in the past have pointed out some of my grammar typos and brain farts, although there haven't been that many, to be sure. Some people have nothing better to do than point out the flaws in someone who is "almost" perfect. Remember the Ivory Snow commercials? (99 44/100ths% pure!) I guess that being almost perfect is much more believable than 100%. By the way, the thing I most vividly recall about Ivory Snow was their commercial with Marilyn Chambers before she did "Behind the Green Door," et.al. Now THERE was a dirty talker!

And there is no excuse for not being able to spell some of the simplest words in the English language. If you speak like you write, maybe that was the reason you received poor service, or not the level of service you were expecting at a MP.

I agree with you. The average person I meet, even a well educated person, speaks atrocious English. I grew up in an area of very strong accents of very bad English. This "coal region" dialect from central/eastern PA is so bad and so unique that there is a special dictionary on line for it called "CoalSpeak." I have made a special effort beginning in HS to shed myself of this speaking and spelling heritage, which perhaps is why I sometimes appear to be such a spelling and grammar Nazi. If you heard me speak you would have no idea where I grew up, other than assuming it must be somewhere they have NO detectable accent and speak impeccably good and proper American English.

I proof read ALL of my posts before I send them. A typo or another mistake may slip by me, but I do make the effort to correct my mistakes.

Good for you. All one can do is try.

Super......keep up the good work. I wish I had your budget.

I save all my change in a jar and, when I have enough, I cash it in and get sucked and fucked. Oh, did I mention that one of my jobs is collecting the proceeds from vending machines? :D

CookyJar

03-21-10, 21:50

Notice Sabrina's very clean and very well manicured and decorated nails as in Sabrina41 and Sabrina46. The rest of her was just as clean. This is a SW who takes real pride in her hygiene.

Her nails are always clean and manicured. Her hair is always done and clean. She keeps a cell phone. And, she does not live on the street. How can this be? What does it mean?

Sabrina is not spending all of her money on drugs, nor is she giving it to some pimp. Are not these two major criticisms give by a number of us monger?

Being hygienically clean shouldn’t be considered a plus. Hygiene is number one, even before beauty. Hygiene is right up there with attitude and personality, IMHO.

Sabrina remains a favorite of mine. She is fun. Has a nice attitude and personality. She’s a good fuck. And, she’s clean? What more can a horny old dog ask for?

CookyJar

Member #5805

03-21-10, 22:17

Supereloquent

03-22-10, 00:45

Is it just me or does Sabrina24 look like she has 3 holes back there.

LOL She has a cute little "divide" right at the top of her ass crack.

Great work and alway great pics.

Thanks. I will take credit for creating some of the photographic direction and angles but Sabrina is a great subject to shoot as I am sure Cooky will attest.

Supereloquent

03-22-10, 01:02

It is only appropriate that my 1000th post be a reply to YOU Cooky!

Her nails are always clean and manicured. Her hair is always done and clean. She keeps a cell phone. And, she does not live on the street. How can this be? What does it mean?

Sabrina is not spending all of her money on drugs, nor is she giving it to some pimp. Are not these two major criticisms give by a number of us monger?

If only such were true of all SWs on the stroll!

Being hygienically clean shouldn’t be considered a plus. Hygiene is number one, even before beauty. Hygiene is right up there with attitude and personality, IMHO.

I totally agree and we don't mention it often enough. There is nothing so disgusting as a SW with dirty feet, hands and/or fingernails, unwashed greasy hair, an odor like she might be more than a day shy of a bath, and a crotch that smells like you aren't the first to be there for quite a while.

I have picked up a few like that. The only way I continue the date is if we are going to a motel where she can take a hot private shower and get a good scrubbing and a douche (I always carry a spare, just in case.)

Sabrina remains a favorite of mine. She is fun. Has a nice attitude and personality. She’s a good fuck. And, she’s clean? What more can a horny old dog ask for?

What more?:that she spits up gold coins when you fuck her doggie....LOL. :D

Supereloquent

03-22-10, 19:15

I hadn’t seen Justine for quite a while, but it certainly wasn’t from a lack of my desire to see her. Her cell number stopped working, and there was no other way for me to get in touch, and I hadn’t seen her at all on the Ave. So when I did see her out of the corner of my eye, walking on a side street on the northern end of the stroll, I was tempted to do a boneheaded U-turn to get to her. As it was, I just pulled over and stopped on the K, and hoped I could walk to her quickly enough to pick her up. Justine always looks good enough to eat, and most assuredly would have been picked up very quickly by another monger. When I got there she was talking to another monger through his car window. When she saw me she gave me a huge smile and a wave She continued to talk to the other monger for a bit, and then he sped away, almost screeching his tires. I didn’t get into what had happened, but we did get a chance to discuss it later on our way to a nice motel.

It was a really nice 70 degree plus sunny day. Justine was wearing a nice pair of jeans and an interesting and sexy, light-brown, short-sleeved blouse that had a raised shiny design on the front. It was cut open in the back at both the top and bottom, and tied in the middle of the back like an apron. The jeans were long enough to cover her trademark open-toed high-heeled shoes to the point where you almost couldn’t see them. We talked about that. I mentioned that exposing the heels, and even wearing a short skirt with them, would be WAY hot. However, she said she basically wore them to increase the appearance of her height. She looks tall (precisely because of the heels), but she is actually only about 5 feet 2. If she didn’t have such a great body one might think of her as a spinner. But spinners I picture as not only short but also skinny (however, I violated my own definition here once when describing very short, but athletic and big-bosomed Tanya as a spinner…LOL). She said she really didn’t think she needed to wear heels on the Ave to attract dates. But she did enjoy looking different and appearing taller, and she just likes heels and feels comfy in them.

We headed to our favorite motel. I knew this was somewhat of a drive, but it is very nice and relatively close to where she lives. She didn’t ask any questions about where we were going or what we were doing or the price. I think her memory of what we did before was probably fine and acceptable. On the way I mentioned that I hadn’t seen her on the stroll, and that her cell number had stopped working. She said she had been stalked and bothered by some idiots, and had to change the number, so she was going to be extra careful about who had her new number in the future, present company excepted. :D Justine said she was still taking classes part-time and was mostly doing phone dates, but coming down to the Ave every now and then when things were slow, to make a few carefully selected additions to her list. I asked her how that was going and she laughed and said, “Pretty lousy.” I remarked that she certainly wouldn’t have any problem attracting any monger on the K. She said that wasn’t the problem; there were just too many “sleaze-balls” and “jerks” and “creeps.” She was only agreeing to get into the cars of maybe 1 or 2 out of every 10 who stopped. That was one of the reasons she refused the guy who was talking to her when I saw her, not to mention that she was anxious to brush him off when she saw me. “Fortunately,” she said, “Even so, it usually only takes me a few minutes to pick up an acceptable date.” There is no doubt in my mind.

When we got to the motel I took some pics of her in her jeans. Justine is a natural when it comes to posing. I hadn’t really paid that much attention last time, but a few other observant mongers noticed in her pics that she applies a lot of foundation make-up, making her face look almost a different pale color from the rest of her body. I asked her about that. She said she has a bad case of rosacea (similar to but different from acne), and she is very sensitive about it and tries to cover it up. I told her that, regardless of the make-up or whatever, that she certainly became a popular item on this board when her first photo spread by me appeared last year. I also mentioned that she had been elected SW of the Year 2009 in a contest we had held. She cocked her head and laughed and said, “Really? I am flattered! I wish that would translate into a paying modeling contract.” Apparently she has been trying to get a few modeling gigs along with school and hooking on the side. She is quite the active and busy little entrepreneur.

I also took a few pics in her underwear. Justine is a stickler for having matching underwear. I can’t say that is a trait true of too many SWs I know. I thought her undies looked a bit familiar from the last time. As I took photos of her I mentioned something about that. She said laughingly, “Well, I don’t just wear the same pair over and over, but these are a very expensive pair and one of my favorites. If I would have known it would matter I would have brought along another pair.” She giggled and made a snoot at me.

Justine’s look is just about as perfect as it gets: a very cute face, a lithe, trim body with little if any fat, perfectly formed small titties with soft pink nipples, a plump shaved pretty pussy and a perfectly formed ass. It doesn’t take much imagination or motivation to get hard just staring at her, let alone with her smolderingly sexy attitude.

Once we were naked, she started by getting between my legs and slowly sucked on my cock. She licked it until it was hard, and then teased all around my balls and up and down the shaft with her wet tongue. All the while she looked up at me with those deep brown eyes. I made a valiant attempt to convince her to do some BJ pics. They would have been incredible, but pics of her naked was where she drew the line. When my cock was standing stiffly at attention, and quivering, she quickly swallowed me whole all the way to my pubic hair and sucked hard. She swirled her tongue all around the base of my dick. I gasped out loud; it felt so fucking good. I was in the mood to squirt quickly for this first cup, as she had teased me unmercifully already with her mouth, tongue, throat, hands and fingers. I just wanted to bust a nut in the worst way. So I said to her, “Suck Daddy’s cum, little piggie. Take a big load. Hold it in your mouth and show Daddy. OK?” She replied, “Ummmm…. hmmmmmm!" I squirted hard into her mouth. She opened her mouth wide to show me, and I saw a mass of white cum on her tongue and in her mouth. I had her stick her tongue out, and a small gooey river of cum poured over her lips and down her chin and dripped to her chest. I told her to scoop it up with her fingers, and swallow it all. When she was finished she giggled, and opened her mouth wide and stuck her tongue out to show me she had swallowed every drop. She bounded into the bathroom and fixed her make-up where the cum river had stained it. Then she bounced back into bed for some pillow talk.

It didn’t take me long to feel stimulated once more, and I asked her to suck me and get me hard again. She did this, using the same techniques as she had before. But this time I definitely wanted to fuck her. Once I got rigid from her tongue-tease, I pushed her back onto the bed, placed the insides of my elbows at the beck of her knees, and plowed into her, until her legs were pinned down on her arms, and my hands were grabbing her elbows. I fucked her like this, pumping her good and watching her mouth gape open and her face contort into expressions of arousal. She started to sigh and moan in rhythm to my thrusts. I pinned her legs even tighter to her arms, tilted her ass up in the air, and really drilled into her. She started to wiggle and scream in delight, and I kept her tightly pinned as I jack-hammered her cu*nt. Her legs were swinging about wildly from the knees down, because that’s the only part of her that was free. I kept driving into her, and she was letting out short shrills, cries and yelps. The unpinned lower halves of her legs were kicking about in a frenzy. It was hot to watch her gorgeous body pinned down tight like this, and be in total control as she squealed in pleasure. I arched my back and busted a hard nut. My body was sweating and shivering and I slid off almost sideways and onto the bed, saying loudly, “Fuck, that felt good!” She laughed and rolled over to her side, and lit up a cigarette. It was so relaxed and nonchalant that it seemed like a scene straight out of a movie.

I had another cup of her tremendous sucking talent, and then the final and most wonderful fuck of her in several different positions with her on top: CG and RCG. I finished her off with doggie. No matter how many times I had cum, the sight of that perfect ass jiggling as I slapped it, and as I did her doggie, made me cum again a lot sooner than I wanted. I can’t think of a more perfect ass I have ever seen, either civvie or SW.

Ratings: This was a perfect 5 star plus experience in every possible way: face, body, BJ, fucking and attitude. Need I even comment about the repeatability? Every day of the week and twice on Sunday. YMMV

Supereloquent

03-22-10, 19:18

Cute little bod.

Supereloquent

03-22-10, 19:22

Topless, naked and spread...YUMMY!

Joe Black

03-22-10, 21:01

I been looking @ your post for a long time and I got to say, you are a bad MOFO.

You got some good pics and your writting is fantastic.

Thanks for all of the info.

Mr. Black

Topless, naked and spread...YUMMY!

Spa Man 1

03-23-10, 05:29

Topless, naked and spread...YUMMY!I want to lick every inch of this babe!

Supereloquent

03-23-10, 10:14

I been looking @ your post for a long time and I got to say, YOU are a bad MOFO...
You got some good pics and your writting is fantastic...
Thanks for all of the info...
Mr. BlackThanks. I always appreciate a fan and I give it the old college try.

MOFO...that is EXACTLY what "Siissy Spacek look-alike" Nicole whispers to me. When her tight pussy is impaled on my cock and I am ramming the shit out of her, and she is starting to cum, she says hoarsely, "muthafucka" over and over again. That is SO hot!

Although I don't care to date her anymore, Alexus once remarked laughingly after a long and dirty-talk-filled fuck: "You are a crazy muthafucka."

I must be in the sense that I am a connoisseur of dirty talking.

Freaklikdat

03-23-10, 14:49

I hadn't seen Justine for quite a while, but it certainly wasn't from a lack of my desire to see her. Her cell number stopped working, and there was no other way for me to get in touch, and I hadn't seen her at all on the Ave. So when I did see her out of the corner of my eye, walking on a side street on the northern end of the stroll, I was tempted to do a boneheaded U-turn to get to her. As it was, I just pulled over and stopped on the K, and hoped I could walk to her quickly enough to pick her up. Justine always looks good enough to eat, and most assuredly would have been picked up very quickly by another monger. When I got there she was talking to another monger through his car window. When she saw me she gave me a huge smile and a wave She continued to talk to the other monger for a bit, and then he sped away, almost screeching his tires. I didn't get into what had happened, but we did get a chance to discuss it later on our way to a nice motel.Hey SuperE love the pics man. Like always I'm going to give you, CJ & anybody else their props for posting great reviews and hot pics that show that Philly has it going on when it come to SW'ers. BUT, I'm questioning this post and don't get me wrong because I have no issues with you what so ever. Remember when I asked can I use a few of your photos for a little idea I had? After saving those pics I noticed that your pictures are watermarked meaning, they have every detail on them such as time, date, camera used & even editing software if it was used. With that being said, The new justine pics have the same date & time frame as the previous report I'm hoping I'm wrong on this one, but even if I'm not it's not going to stop me from giving you prop on all the GREAT reports you post.

Thunderbolt47

03-23-10, 16:36

Supereloquent

03-23-10, 17:02

Hey SuperE!

I really appreciate your posts and photography- bigtime!

i have a plan to make it out your way sometime soon. Is it possible to include some idea of entertainment costs? I saw Nichole holding 60 in one photo. is this typical?

I have no right to ask this but thanks.

Thanks for your support.

I used to include the "damages" in my reports, but I stopped doing that. Every monger is different and I find myself to be far different from most, so a report of damages every time probably won't do readers much good other than provide one more thing for critics to throw a rock at for some reason or other. Sometimes I go for a quickie car BJ date at normal Ave rates, but more typically I like very long, multiple-cup, pic-taking dates at a nice motel. I don't really see much other reporting like that going on in this forum, perhaps except for Cooky to some degree. Maybe it is happening, but I just don't see any evidence of it. And I observe that even Cooky rarely mentions anything about damages.

I have written quite an extensive report on damages to which I will refer you here:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=953281&postcount=1040

I hope this sheds some light on the subject, at least from my point of view. I don't pretend to be the ultimate authority on street prices for sex, but I do have a certain approach and philosophy that seems to work for me.

Supereloquent

03-24-10, 10:30

Every now and then you run into a truly gorgeous spinner on the Ave. Jamey was one of those: cute, fresh-faced, thin but not CCL. I picked her up on a hot corner at the south end of the stroll, and I knew immediately that I wanted an indoor FS date. I would have taken her to a nice motel, but I didn’t have enough time, so off to the Carlyle we went.

Jamey had absolutely no symptoms or marks of drug addiction, and she claimed not to take drugs. I tend to believe her. She said she lives with a few other girls just off the K, and all of them hook every now and then just to make some extra dough. Based on the success of our date, and her claim that the other girls she lives with are good looking and fun, I look forward to dating them as well.

We had a very nice conversation on the drive. Jamey is animated, extremely pleasant, smart and interesting. She said she was 22, and that seemed about right. She is around 5 feet 2 and 100 pounds, most definitely spinner proportions.

Jamey posed very well for pics. You can tell from her big and winning smile that she exudes a warm, friendly and outgoing personality. She was an equally good cock sucker. She could fit me all the way down her throat, which is quite rare for a girl so small. Her DT sucking technique was marvelous with varied speeds, sloppiness, licking , just the right pressures, excellent use of her mouth and throat and plenty of tongue action. I had planned at least 2 cups of FS, but her BBBJ was so nice that I just let it continue until I busted a hard nut into her mouth. She was a spitter, but no matter, she took the whole load first, and it felt great.

Having cum once, the edge was off my horniness, but I was ready to go again in about 10 minutes. I started with her sucking me again, fully planning to take her afterward in as many positions as I could, and ending with her on top (Why not? That’s what spinners are for! LOL). Once I was good and hard I first took her mish. I love to bend spinners up like a pretzel when fucking them mish; they are so light and flexible. Her pussy was tight and it felt good. She seemed to be enjoying herself, which I very much like. She was also into hearing dirty talking, and saying it herself. She really got a kick out of the “cum piggie” thing and giggled like crazy, and thought that it was really “cute.” I pounded her good mish, turned her over and did the same doggie, and ended with RCG and then CG. She bounced on top, and it was hot first to see her ass bouncing on me as I kneaded and slapped it. It was hotter still when she turned around, and was bouncing on top like I was a bronco. I grabbed her tiny soft pink nipples as she recoiled up and down on my dick. I said all manner of filthy dirty things to her as she sexily hopped up and down on me. I busted another hard nut.

Our time was almost up and there was somewhere I soon had to be, but I knew the next time I would most definitely take Jamey to a nice motel for a longer multiple-cup date. Now I have her digits and digits for her roomies so maybe I will finally schedule that SW threesome I have been meaning to experience.

Ratings? Face: 5 stars (very cute/ pretty); Body: 5 stars (on a spinner scale; thin and tight; I love a flat chest on a spinner with pinchable and suckable soft pink nipples like hers; the ass is thin but still delectable); BJ: 5 stars; Fucking: 5 stars; Attitude: 5 stars plus; Overall: 5 stars; Repeatable? Definitely! YMMV

Supereloquent

03-24-10, 10:32

Showing off that hot spinner body, her flexibility and spread for you to see her pretty pussy.

Supereloquent

03-24-10, 10:38

She was an outstanding cock sucker. Sometimes I forget to do the "flash the cash" pic at the end. I almost did this time too. We actually walked back to the room when my memory kicked in to do one.

Freaklikdat

03-24-10, 12:21

I'm hoping I'm wrong on this one, but even if I'm not it's not going to stop me from giving you prop on all the GREAT reports you post.

I know you didn't want to get into the "technical stuff" on the thread but if you must then please do. Just look at me as that friend who calls his friend out on something that he believes isn't true but still remain the best of friends. If it's one thing that I am very good with and have a passion for, it's videography & now photography, so I do know a thing or two about internal camera dates. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to save a picture to their desktop, then right click it then hit properties to see the details of a photo. It's very odd that on the justine photos the dates are the exact same and the time frame is within the same hour I know you have many haters on the forum, but trust me I've truly became a fan of your work. Here's a perfect example http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=931525&postcount=861 you dated & reported on kate the exact same day you took her picture and it shows up on the details of the pics & just go back and look at the dates of your most resent pics of sabrina, nicole & carol. They all have the same time frame of when you reported on them. I know how it is when you have so many pics of SW'ers that you forgot you had or just never had the chance to post & I'm sure cooky knows it too, but a bogus report is completely different.

Supereloquent

03-24-10, 15:15

Shakespeare wrote a play about this called Much Ado About Nothing

Firstly, I couldn't care less about photo watermarks.

Secondly, I don't set the internal clock of either my camera or my photo software, so absolutely anything is likely to happen. When I have bothered to look I have seen things as odd as an origination date for a photo that is different from the creation date, or an origination or creation date or editing date or digitization date or whatever which is in the future and hasn't even happened yet!

Thirdly, when I transfer image files to be in another image file folder, as when I have previous images of the same person that I want to store together, my software has an annoying tendency (about which I care not) in certain circumstances to re-stamp the creation date to be the same as the creation date of the folder, and restart the clock at that time, even though it might stamp a current editing or access date. I have seen it do this when I copy the file as opposed to cutting the file and moving it. Why? I have no idea. My pure guess is because the software thinks it is meant to be a part of the folder, since it recognizes that it is a copy and not an original, and should be time stamped compatibly with other images in the folder. However, I have also seen(when I bothered to look) an editing or creation date before a picture was even supposedly taken, or a future date that has not yet even occurred (how weird is that!).

Fourthly, the camera date is almost never reliable, although, sometimes, if I have kept up the charge before the battery dies, and have set the camera clock recently for any reason, such as to stamp a date on an image, it might actually show an accurate date (at least until the battery dies again). If I have touched the date button inadvertently the camera date is like a time machine. It could be anything. Sometimes images actually show a semblance of dates which make sense.

Fifthly, if I cared at all about any of this, and I were an anal professional photographer, I am sure I would pay more attention to make sure all the clocks were working properly and have accurate and reliable information.

Sixthly, I am sure most of you are so thoroughly bored with the tedium of this whole discussion that you have not even bothered to make it this far in the post.

Johnny Stales

03-24-10, 15:31

When I saw those Justine pics first thing I thought was, "does this chick only have one pair of underwear?" They are a great set of pics and I thought they looked familiar. After I read Freak's post I went back and checked and did notice they all look pretty similar. My two favorite recent pics, in fact, were posted back in October http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=879111&postcount=452 . Notice the two of her on her stomach with her ass pooched up in the air. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=962040&postcount=1116

I really don't care anyway. Hey maybe she was wearing the same shoes and same underwear both times (i noticed she had two different outfits) and Super confused spreads since they look exactly the same.

Freaklikdat

03-24-10, 16:16

Shakespeare wrote a play about this called Much Ado About Nothing

Firstly, I don't pay any attention whatsoever to photo watermarks.

Secondly, I don't set the internal clock of either my camera or my photo software, so absolutely anything is likely to happen. When I have bothered to look I have seen things as odd as an origination date for a photo that is different from the creation date, or an origination or creation date or editing date or digitization date or whatever which is in the future and hasn't even happened yet!

Thirdly, when I transfer image files to be in another image file folder, as when I have previous images of the same person that I want to store together, my software has an annoying tendency (about which I care not) in certain circumstances to re-stamp the creation date to be the same as the image files in the folder (which makes some sense since it was the creation date of the folder), and restart the clock at that time, even though it might stamp a current editing date. I have seen it do this when I copy the file as opposed to cutting the file and moving it. Why? I have no idea. My pure guess is because the software thinks it is meant to be a part of the folder, since it recognizes that it is a copy and not an original, and should be time stamped similar to other images in the folder. However, I have also seen(when I bothered to look) an editing or creation date before a picture was even supposedly taken, or a future date that has not yet even occurred (how weird is that!).

Fourthly, the camera date is almost never reliable, although, sometimes, if I have kept up the charge before the battery dies, and have set the camera clock recently for any reason, such as to stamp a date on an image, it might actually show an accurate date (at least until the battery dies again). If I have touched the date button inadvertently the camera date is like a time machine. It could be anything. Sometimes images actually show a semblance of dates which make sense.

Fifthly, if I cared at all about any of this, and I were an anal professional photographer, I am sure I would pay more attention to make sure all the clocks were working properly and have accurate and reliable information.

Sixthly, I am sure most of you are so thoroughly bored with the tedium of this whole discussion that you have not even bothered to make it this far in the post.Abraham Licoln said "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."

Happy hunting.

Supereloquent

03-24-10, 18:44

When I saw those Justine pics first thing I thought was, "does this chick only have one pair of underwear?"

Yes, I suppose some SWs do just have one pair of underwear, or at least a FAVORITE pair. Here are pics of three different dates with hot Nicole, one taken by ResidentEvil1 in his car and two by me on different indoor dates. She was wearing the SAME bra on all three occasions. She was also wearing the same bra and matching black panties three other times when I had a car date with her. She wasn't wearing any panties at all when I picked her up in her short denim skirt. Whoooohoooo! I tried to see if she also wore that bra and matching panties when she dated Cooky, but he didn't have any pics of her in her underwear. However, that insignia on the bra is fairly memorable, so perhaps Cooky remembers it as well. No matter, my point is made. Do some SWs have favorite underwear? Apparently the answer is yes. I am sure there are more examples. This was just one where the fact was very demonstrable.

I really don't care anyway. Hey maybe she was wearing the same shoes and same underwear both times (I noticed she had two different outfits)

Yes, SWs apparently will wear the same shoes and the same underwear, but I don't think we have an epidemic of SWs carrying around spare outfits.

Rob Roy

03-24-10, 23:41

Sorry to intrude. Rockford IL guy here, been looking a the picture gallery. Noticed that there seem to be more good looking girls in Philadelphia than there are ugly ones available in Rockford. The few good looking ones we have I think all get a sugar daddy leaving the rest of us to get the very poor left overs. Your pics and Mr Cookiejar's pics always make me want to pay your towna visit. Can't afford it, but would still think could have some fun.

Fbtom

03-25-10, 00:40

....Rockford IL guy here.... pics always make me want to pay your towna visit. Can't afford it, but would still think could have some fun.

There are several flights starting at $164 round trip. Granted that you will have to leave on a Weds. return on a Sat. Get a hotel near the strolls, and rent a small car. Hell, if I lived anywhere else, that is what I'd do! Imagine having three days and nights living out of a hotel, picking up many sw! Save up, it would be worth it.

Fbtom

03-25-10, 00:42

I really don't care if a girl only wears one or two different outfits or undies, as long as they and she are clean, it is all good.

Blasternot

03-25-10, 01:11

I think its time I made my way to Philly.

Proxysss

03-25-10, 05:57

Jamey looks like Kristen Stewart.

Supereloquent

03-25-10, 06:03

Sorry to intrude. Rockford IL guy here, been looking a the picture gallery. Noticed that there seem to be more good looking girls in Philadelphia than there are ugly ones available in Rockford.

I think its time I made my way to Philly.

It is no secret that the Philly strolls have a wide selection of good looking SWs. Let's not kid ourselves. There are also nasty looking ones as well. The main reason there is a constant supply of any SWs here at all is the ready availability of drugs, particularly near to the main stroll on the K. However, because there is already a thriving SW trade here, there is a collateral supply of SWs who know that there is also a ready supply of mongers. Part-timers from the burbs, down-and-outers moving here and looking for a way to pay the bills, college girls enhancing their "scholarship funds," gals who work for escort services or advertise on line when things get slow and girls who have lost their jobs in this lousy economy, and are just looking for a way to make a living: all of these supplement the regular supply of SWs who are drug addicted and feeding their habits.

The few good looking ones we have I think all get a sugar daddy leaving the rest of us to get the very poor left overs.

We have SWs leaving the life and entering the life here in a constant stream for one reason or another. A few are old stand-bys and have been on the stroll for years; they tend to be the severely drug addicted who don't have much choice. But I notice that the vast majority are like a revolving door: you see them around for a while and they disappear, and pretty soon others have taken their place.

Your pics and Mr Cookiejar's pics always make me want to pay your towna visit.

Just remember that the odds of finding a particular SW at any particular time are similar to the odds of 2 bullets meeting in mid air. I have written a report about that in detail. If you care to read it, send me a PM and I will send you the link. The beauty is that there are so many SWs on the stroll at most hours of the day or night, that you can usually always find something very acceptable without the necessity of having a "shopping list."

Can't afford it, but would still think could have some fun.

I wasn't sure if you meant the travel cost here or the SW expense. SW fees here are pretty reasonable, especially compared to using a MP or escort service or ordering a girl on line. But Fbtom's advice would indicate that cheap air fares are available.

There are several flights starting at $164 round trip. Granted that you will have to leave on a Weds. return on a Sat. Get a hotel near the strolls, and rent a small car. Hell, if I lived anywhere else, that is what I'd do! Imagine having three days and nights living out of a hotel, picking up many sw! Save up, it would be worth it.

Think of it as an inexpensive round-trip flight to Vegas, except in this case to monger rather than to gamble (although you can do that too; Atlantic City is a short drive from Philly, and PA now has legalized table games, so the casino in nearby Chester will soon have them too if table games are your gambling poison of choice).

Supereloquent

03-25-10, 06:23

I really don't care if a girl only wears one or two different outfits or undies, as long as they and she are clean, it is all good.

I picked up a SW one time who was young and very cute and appealing but clearly at least a day shy of a bath. The only way I was dating her is if we went to a nice motel and she got a hot shower and douched. She took her bra and undies into the shower with her, scrubbed them with soap and then rinsed them. It sounds gross that she even had to do that, but it is a lot better that she did for the next guy, assuming he was car dating her and not looking to spring for a room.

I am in total agreement with Cooky that SW hygiene trumps attitude and even looks as a primary consideration. Unfortunately for many SWs who may be severely drug addicted, bathing and even eating sometimes take a second seat to getting high. Some are homeless and only have the opportunity to bathe when having an indoor date at a motel. Some wander the streets for long periods of time, dating and getting high and dating again, and don't take a break for cleanliness. It's a fact of life on the K.

This isn't the only reason I often prefer indoor dates at a nice motel to car dates, but it certainly is a factor.

Supereloquent

03-25-10, 06:54

Supereloquent

03-25-10, 07:12

Second indoor date with Elektra

She sucked me.

We fucked.

Repeatable.

Tons of hot pics.

Too lazy to post.

Supereloquent

03-25-10, 07:18

Classy BSW

Indoor FS

Had fun.

Would do again.

Lots of hot pics.

Too much work to edit and post.

Johnny Stales

03-25-10, 08:53

Yes, SWs apparently will wear the same shoes and the same underwear, but I don't think we have an epidemic of SWs carrying around spare outfits.It has been my experience that a lot of street girls carry around half their lives in their bag, let alone a spare skirt and tank top.

Judging by the background in this pic, it appears Justine is one that does carry around a few outfits.

Johnny Stales

03-25-10, 10:41

Super, I don't like calling you out but I'm already in so here goes.

On your report 10-10-2009 http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=879109&postcount=450, Justine was shown in a skirt and tank top. (edit: Super had asked why I mentioned a skirt and tank top but the post has been deleted.) Please note the 5th pic in the top row, Justine06. Note the pose, tongue, and clothes on chair behind her. Now let's look at your pics from your post on 3-22-2010 http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=962036&postcount=1115. Note the first pic, Justine11. Different pic from Justine06 (posted on 10-10-09), but same pose, same tongue, and same clothes on chair in background. Justine06 and Justine11 were taken seconds apart from each other, yet posted as two separate shoots 5 months apart.

There are quite a few other similar examples with other pictures but I don't think I need to point them out. It was a great shoot so I welcome the new pics. The Penthouse Forum story on 3-22 I probably could have done without.

Supereloquent

03-25-10, 10:42

I really don't care anyway.
ummmm...hmmmmmmm.

Freaklikdat

03-25-10, 12:54

Johnboy

03-25-10, 12:57

Super,
I don't post that often and have never posted pics, so you can slam me for that. I don't have a degree in english so my spelling and grammar may be off a bit at times, so you can slam me for that as well. But I have been a member to this site for a long time, and as much as I value your pictures and contributions to this forum, your pics of Justine are not current as anyone with a set of eyeballs can see. The similarities with the pictures of your previous set are just too easy to spot. Same room, same underwear, same clothes on bed, same papers on nightstand etc... As stated previously, these girls carry around their life in a backpack at times, so a change of clothes is not out of the question. My question to you is this. If the story you wrote is true, why post pics from a previous encounter, and try to cover it up with useless banter? This is not a fictional story site.
I really don't wish to get into an argument with you, but I am just pointing out the obvious. I really appreciate your contributions to the site and I know your pictures are real and hope your posts are as well, but what is up with this one of Justine. Slam me if you want. Insult me if you want. I have never been negative with you and don't expect anything like that from you. Myself and alot of others here would like to beleive we are not being duped by bogus adventures with or without real pictures.
JB

Supereloquent

03-25-10, 13:29

Super,I don't post that often and have never posted pics, so you can slam me for that.

Slam

I don't have a degree in english so my spelling and grammar may be off a bit at times, so you can slam me for that as well.

Slam

Myself and alot of others here would like to beleive we are not being duped by bogus adventures with or without real pictures.
JB

As in "I?" "beleive?" (i before e except after c.) I would hate to think that such fine well-spoken contributors such as "yourself" feel duped by bogus adventures.

I will most certainly do my very best to keep my posts to a bare minimum in the future and stick to the absolute essential facts sans pics.

Supereloquent

03-25-10, 14:06

The "Justine affair" (literally and figuratively) doesn't seem like it is going away any time soon. It is like a bad penny. It keeps showing up. And it would appear that some members here have nothing better to do than continue to harp about it like I took a dump on their lawn. So let's clear the air.

Did I date Justine recently? Yes. Believe it, don't believe it, whatever. Did I have my camera with me? Yes, but not the charger and the battery had died. Am I a complete bonehead for not keeping it charged? Yes. Did I embellish the truth a bit in my post to make it seem like the pics were recent? Yes. Why not just post the old previously unposted pics with a disclaimer? Why do people do stupid things? They do. I am not immune; I have no excuses. I was stupid. I apologize. Does this mean I am a liar and all my pics and posts are false? Believe what you want; I can't stop you. I did a dumb thing. It's better to come clean at this point than to wiggle around it anymore and get all pissy about it on top. Is that a childish thing to do? You bet. Do we all do it? Well, maybe not to the degree we would care to admit, but we do.

This reminds me of the classic story of parents seeing their child taking cookies from the jar (you like that analogy, Cooky?) when he has been told not to, and then they ask him if he has taken cookies from the jar. So now he is between a rock and a hard place. He can either admit that he did something he shouldn't have, or he can lie about it. He is fucked either way. The moral of the story?: don't take cookies from the jar, because the result will be unpleasant no matter how you slice it.

Supereloquent

03-25-10, 16:03

Supere,

You're still a good dude in my book when it comes to picking up SW'ers in philly, but I think your love & passion for writing & storytelling has overshadowed the great pictures & the effort you been putting in to make a name for yourself on this board. I've seen how you've made people on this forum look like complete idiots with your words and If I didn't feel that I was correct in questioning that report I'll be damn if I was going to be the next one in line of your literary firepower. I'm done with this subject but just remember your already a well respected monger with nothing to prove.

I was all set to back up the truck and dump on you with the written word, but you were correct to call me on it, and I would be childish to continue to throw a tantrum over it. I was wrong, and I have attempted to explain and set the matter straight. I was one of those kids who tried to make the teacher look stupid just because I could. That didn't make me right, just dangerously pedantically ornery. Some things don't change very much, and I can still be that way. Face me intellectually with your fists, and I will pull a knife, pull a knife and I will pull a gun, pull a gun and I will pull a flame thrower. Push me too hard and instead of being a Jedi Knight I will become Darth Vader with a death ray trained on your ass.

However, now it's time to chill, contemplate all the spring flowers about to emerge on the K in their short-shorts, halter-tops and flip-flops, and dream about all their cute little mouths and pussies wrapped around your cock.

Thu956

03-25-10, 16:04

This is my first post here. I've been trolling the forums on BestGfe for a few months and can't say I've gotten much out of it. All I wanted to say is that I've learned more here in a few hours than the several months over there. You guys are total pros! Specifaclly, reading all the posts of supereloquent just gives a wealth of great information. For that thanks!

Keep up the great work everyone!

The "Justine affair" (literally and figuratively) doesn't seem like it is going away any time soon. It is like a bad penny. It keeps showing up. And it would appear that some members here have nothing better to do than continue to harp about it like I took a dump on their lawn. So let's clear the air.

Supereloquent

03-25-10, 17:29

Sorry, I am from out of town and got the address where I found Staci all screwed up. The WAWA is on Erie and L street a few blocks up from the DD everyone posts about on here. I have picked up girls in that area of Erie in previous visits. I got off the highway at the Aramingo exit to start my adventure.

Don't you find it odd how a few jumped on the bandwagon to say they had seen or picked up SWs at a strange location pointed out by an out-of-towner which was very far off the stroll and was the wrong Wawa in the first place?

I have picked up a few on the Ben Franklin bridge. Anyone see any there too?

Ooops, or was it the Walt Whitman?

The Tacony-Palmyra? The Betsy Ross?

Wait, I know, it was the Commodore Perry!

Or was it the Delaware?

Aw, come on fellas, you have to admit that this whole situation is funny! I will be sure to check out this Wawa on Aramingo...as soon as my library card runs out and I have a few hours to kill wasting my time.

Phunchance

03-25-10, 17:39

She was an outstanding cock sucker.Yeah. It's J from Backpage. Hot little number. What a way to start the spring.

Mike 80

03-25-10, 19:59

Don't you find it odd how a few jumped on the bandwagon to say they had seen or picked up SWs at a strange location pointed out by an out-of-towner which was very far off the stroll and was the wrong Wawa in the first place?Kind of like how a story can change entirely as it's repeated from one person to another to the point where it ultimately bears no similarity to the original or reality. That said, I think the fact that at least one credible monger (Freaklikdat) says he's picked somebody up there and three other experienced mongers including myself say we've seen girls there we either believed were working or at least looked the part, makes me think there probably is occasional action to be found. To your point, no I wouldn't go out of my way to hang out there looking for it. But I go to that Wawa fairly often when I'm mongering and based on these reports I'm going to be more open to trusting my instincts that some of these girls may be working.

Supereloquent

03-25-10, 20:40

Kind of like how a story can change entirely as it gets repeated from one person to another to the point where it ultimately bears no similarity to the original.

What you said describes the well known psychological phenomenon of FALSE DISTORTION of the often repeated word/story from its original form, so I guess I fail to see the analogy, unless that is, in fact, what you meant. In this case that might be exactly what applies.

A monger ONCE found a SW in that Wawa and others "think" they may have seen "possible" but unconfirmed SWs there, and someone saw evidence of drug paraphernalia in the MEN'S room? I have found SWs in the supermarket too, and even in a restaurant, but I don't recommend it as a search strategy. I am sure you can choose to look anywhere you like for them, and risk funny looks or worse from every civvie you approach, but, if I have a choice between trolling the K and hanging out at that Wawa, or even making the attempt if I just happen to be pumping gas there or buying something, I know where the odds will likely be 100 times better or more in finding what I want.

I guess if you torture a mouse long enough it might eventually sing the Star Spangled Banner, but that wouldn't be my preferred strategy for beginning a Phillies' game.

Member #5237

03-25-10, 21:37

Most mongers are too young to remember Joe Friday (including me) but the TV nostalgia channel has it on cable and it's a riot.

"Some" mongers would apparently prefer the basics, so here is something special just for you for my latest report:

Picked up Jess on the stroll.

Cute, young, short-haired brunette .

Found a secluded place to park.

Nice pipe cleaning.

Would repeat.

Have pics but too lazy to post.

I remember Joe Friday. Played by actor Jack Webb. Joe Friday walked like he had a broomstick up his back, never cracked a smile, never broke into a sweat chasing anyone, never a hair out of place. Almost never took off his tweed jacket. His partner in some of the episodes was played by actor Harry Morgan ( colonel Potter of M*A*S*H fame for all you youngins).

JerryGarcia

03-25-10, 21:49

The best episodes were the ones about drugs--we would of course be high while watching back in the early 70's. I remember one where the parents were smoking weed, and their kid drowned in the bathtub--the hippie mom was hysterical, and Joe of course preached against the evil of drugs.

There was another one where a teenage kid was wearing a Nehru jacket (I bet few people know what that is), and was chanting the Hare Krishna. Sgt Joe Friday asked him: "Ok, son--what are you on? Uppers, downers..."? Those were the days.

Supereloquent

03-25-10, 22:04

My self and several other mongers who I believe to have credibility have all made observations regarding said WaWa.

I make no case against anyone's credibility. I was merely amusing myself over the flurry of "reporting" all based on a MISTAKEN address. You do not find it similarly amusing, because it is at your expense. So you are forced either to invest your ego and defend an entrenched position at all hazards, or give it up laughingly and gracefully. Trust me, I am no stranger to the predicament. I empathize. Hold on for dear life, but the tighter you hold the funnier it will get. At least you have a few others in the foxhole with you to share your rations.

An observation is not a confirmation. Just because it looks like a duck and walks like a duck doesn't mean it fucks for money like a duck. I trust that you have instincts about that location from your observations and your trained eye and maybe your instincts are correct, but maybe they are not. All we have so far is an incorrect report from an out-of-towner followed by ONE confirmed hit and a few suspicions. Compare that to the number of CONFIRMED hits at Huntingdon/Cambria/Russell/Sedgley/Castor/Buckius/Pike. This contest is the pee wee girls playing the Eagles. When you go hunting for deer you don't go to the beach at Atlantic City because someone once shot one there and a few others "thought" they saw a few hanging out there occasionally.

I know you may be agitated over the Justine flame war on the other thread (your sarcasm was amusing--the reports on Sparkles and Elektra, etc) but we are only reporting what we have seen.

At least Jess, Elektra and Sparkles were REAL recent encounters, with pics, and not girls I saw and "thought" were SWs (unless figments of my imagination sucked and fucked me). You may have found the sarcasm amusing, but that level of information, sans pics, is unfortunately what many SW reports read like in here. At least I boiled it down to the essentials and gave the slavering masses less reading with which to burden their cerebra.

I have picked up SW's at the WaWa on Erie Torresdale and at the one on Richmond, as well as both 7-11's. If you don't believe me, then so be it.

So have I. None of that was at issue...just the ludicrous focus on the Wawa at Aramingo, and all as a result of a MISTAKEN report. That is what is so funny, people committing themselves on the basis of mistaken information from a stranger to Philly. Yet you all hold onto it like your honor is at stake. Give it up already.

None of us pick up SW'ers on area bridges or use our library cards.

THAT part WAS meant to be sarcastic, although I believe you that none of you use your library cards. :D

As far as the Aramingo location--when you are cruising the K at night and need gas or a bathroom, it is one of the most logical places to stop. I tend to drive up and down the K for longer periods of time, and I sometimes have a frequent need to use the bathroom, so I pretty much always stop there every time I am in Kensington. Their gas prices are the lowest around in the city, FYI.

Yes, but you are reporting as if that Wawa is some kind of undiscovered great place for a potential pick-up. I just don't "see" it.

The Wawa on Aramingo is the SW Alamo: it is indefensible as a prime pickup spot, period.

Since you primarily monger in day or evening hours and reside north of the city, I can understand why you would not be aware of the many wonders of this particular WaWa.

We will have to agree to disagree. If I ever pick up a SW there I will be the first one to pucker up my lips and plant one on your posterior.

The only question that I have about Justine is--where can I find this sweet girl?

I feel like someone who has been tortured and starved in a concentration camp and then my captors want my prize winning recipe for Beef Stroganov. What I can tell you is that if you plan to find her, be looking on the extreme north end of the stroll after 10 and before 4. She only works on the K when she feels like picking up another regular or 2 for her phone list. Her shelf life on the Ave will be about 10 minutes max, about as long as it takes to refuse a few and find an acceptable date, because she is selective.

You described her in one of your captions as "looking good enough to eat"--that is the truth. I think I would seriously consider going down on that beautiful and marvelous shaved kitty if it were staring me in the face.

I can spell herpes, hepatitis and AIDs. Let's not even think about the other 22 STDs you can get from unprotected oral/vaginal sex. Justine may look great, but she is still a SW. She seems smart enough to only engage in safe sex, but if she lets you eat her out, do you think you are the only one on the planet that was afforded that privilege?

Yes, I am not kidding myself that there are certain risks I am willing to assume with BBBJs, but there are much nastier things you are likely to get from your mouth on a SW's vagina than a SW's mouth on your cock. Call me crazy or just conservative, and feel free to do whatever you like, but sucking a SW's pussy is never going to be on my menu.

CookyJar

03-25-10, 22:12

I don't really see much other reporting like that going on in this forum, perhaps except for Cooky to some degree. Maybe it is happening, but I just don't see any evidence of it. And I observe that even Cooky rarely mentions anything about damages.

To some degree? Maybe I don’t post as much as I use to, but “To some degree? And no, I don’t mention damages. Why? Because I don’t pay for pussy.

Here we go again!!!
I am still laughing at (but not denying outright) the claim that I paid $30 per picture to Angie. If you or anyone wants to believe that I pay $30 per picture - Ha Ha, I cannot stop laughing - so be it. Keep on believing it.
CookyJar

Above is a quote taken from a response to a question posed by a fellow member. He was asking/questioning what I paid a particular girl. I’ve been questioned about what I pay on numerous occasions.

Here, once again is my final answer on the subject. Nothing!!! I pay them nothing for sex. Paying for sex is illegal. I am a stand-up All American, law abiding Citizen. I would never willingly break the law. I do not condone or participate in prostitution or solicit for sex. I am not knocking Supereloquent or the rest of you for what you do, but; I don’t pay for pussy. I am not a prude or holier than thou asshole. I am just a regular type of guy who has never ever paid for sex.

Having said that and hoping you all now understand that I do not give SWers money to fuck them (that would be wrong on so many levels), I do want to pass on some information. Rachel quoted me a set price. It was a little above what I would normally like to have paid. I liked the girl; I could afford to pay her price, so I paid it. I hope that doesn’t turn out to be a problem for anyone. If it does; fuck em and feed them beans.

Rachel turned out to be a great model. She took directions really well. IMHO she was well worth every penny. YMMV

CookyJar

PS: I didn’t find any pictures of Rachel posted on, ”BackPage.” I did find some of her friend (I will post her review next). Here are a few of the special items I did for Rachel. I plan to delivery them personally. I sure hope she appreciates them. I like it when girls show me their appreciation.

Supereloquent

03-25-10, 22:37

To some degree? Maybe I don’t post as much as I use to, but “To some degree? And no, I don’t mention damages. Why? Because I don’t pay for pussy.

You misunderstood what I was saying. I was referring to nice-motel, multiple-hour, multiple-cup dates. I see that you have some of these, but your more typical MO, unless I am misreading your posts, is a photo session followed by a cup of fun. I am not casting aspersions on how frequently you post or what you prefer to do. Do your thing. It's all good.

I don't pay for it either. All that talk about damages is just so much fiction. I am apparently well known for that anyway. :D

Mike Sweeney

03-25-10, 22:37

I played in a local band and that was part of the get up, after 17 minutes of In-A-GaddaDa-Vida, you felt laike you had a burlap sack on, but we thought they were cool!!!

CookyJar

03-25-10, 22:56

Did I embellish the truth a bit in my post to make it seem like the pics were recent? Yes.

Correct me if I am wrong. And if I am wrong, please forgive me. I apologize. Are you admitting that Justice’s pictures were all taken on the date shown in the details section of the pictures properties folder? Have you checked that date yourself?

CookyJar

Mike 80

03-26-10, 00:42

I was merely amusing myself over the flurry of "reporting" all based on a MISTAKEN address. You do not find it similarly amusing, because it is at your expense. So you are forced either to invest your ego and defend an entrenched position at all hazards, or give it up laughingly and gracefully.C'mon Super. You know I'm a huge advocate of your reporting and pics but lighten up a little. In these last couple of posts it's hard not to detect a tone of you talking down to me and others like you’re the professor or pope of mongering and all else. We’re not all brain-dead inarticulate cretins.

In my last post I merely made a casual, lightly-considered comment responding to your point about what turned out to be an erroneous reference to a pick up at an Aramingo Wawa. I knew the parallel I was drawing wasn't the best fit for what you were describing but thought it did highlight how people can sometimes be quickly led afield by misinformation. Of course I don’t think that’s actually the case here. I have visited that Aramingo Wawa many times and it sounds like other mongers do too. There are plenty of reasons to believe there might be action there or in the vicinity, whether it is demographics, the proximity to K and to where some K SWs live, and the look or behavior of some of the girls we see there. I would still be very cautious popping the question to one of these Wawa possibilities and would never go out of my way to monger there. But given that I already DO go there on a fairly regular basis the takeway for me is to be more trusting of my radar and more open to picking up and acting on signals the Wawa wannabees may send. It's always a treat to pick up a gem off the beaten path.

Supereloquent

03-26-10, 00:59

C'mon Super. You know I'm a huge advocate of your reporting and pics but lighten up a little.

Point accepted. I should save up for the idiot rock throwers. You must allow that I feel a little testy, war weary and battle scarred, so when I see a small opening to spray some machine gun fire, that I get an itchy trigger finger. :D

Mike 80

03-26-10, 01:09

Point accepted. I should save up for the idiot rock throwers. You must allow that I feel a little testy, war weary and battle scarred, so when I see a small opening to spray some machine gun fire, that I get an itchy trigger finger. :DNice response, well-phrased as usual. Point resolved. No need for further comment from me or others. We move on to the next topic...

CookyJar

03-26-10, 08:18

...you felt laike you had a burlap sack on, but we thought they were cool!!!

Yeah! But! Do you remember, "The Norfolk Jacket." I still have mine. That was style, when style meant something.

CookyJar

Mike Sweeney

03-26-10, 09:55

LOL, No Cooky I didn't remember that one until I saw your pics of it, it did have more style than the Nehru, I can see trying to pick up a SW in either one, you would probably get laughed of the "K'

Supereloquent

03-26-10, 17:04

I gave everyone the “Joe Friday” version of this report already, so this is just for you oddballs who actually want to read details and see pics.

Last Thursday I had made an appointment with a SW, and was headed to meet her, when I spotted Jess on the northern end of the stroll. She appeared to be young (22, so she says), thin, pretty and very fetching. She flashed me a big smile, and I was already hooked. Jess got in and I called the SW with whom I had the appointment, and we rescheduled for later. Jess covered her mouth, and tried not to laugh out loud.

Jess was multiple-hour, multiple-cup, in-a-nice-motel material, and that is what I suggested. She was reluctant to do that. She wouldn’t even consider the Carlyle. Jess said she doesn’t do this much (if I only had a dollar for every time I have heard THAT one! LOL), and she didn’t know me, and the last guy who had taken her to a motel just left her stranded there. I chagrined over the boneheaded insensitivity of some of my monger brethren, but I told her I understood, and that a car date was better than no date at all, and maybe if she got to know me that next time could be an indoor date.

We found a place that was somewhat secluded, but still in plain view of customers entering a retail establishment. That didn’t seem to bother her, but it surely concerned me. This is one of the reasons I don’t like to do parking dates. I am too old and wise for this shit (except when the little head wants some lovin’). I re-parked so that it was much more difficult to see us, not that it would have made any difference to her one way or the other. She was quite ready and willing to fuck me right there, but I find fucking in my car uncomfortable and dangerous in the best of circumstances, let alone in plain view of a retail store entrance in the middle of the day. So we settled on 2 cups of BBBJCIMSP.

Jess is a very good cock sucker. She gives you long slow sucks until she gets you nice and hard, and then provides a sloppy wet suck all the way to your balls and back, varied in rhythm and with great use of her fingers, mouth, throat and tongue. I was really horny, and the first cup couldn’t have taken more than a few minutes. She laughed after she spit and said, “Damn, you were really ready!” She was concerned that the second cup would take a really long time. However, I told her that it wouldn’t take long given her superb technique, and her cute face and soft titties, with which I was playing as she sucked. I made it very clear that I didn’t want her placing me on a stop watch, or hurrying me, or saying “Are you ready to cum yet?,” but that I was certain it wouldn’t take me any longer than many guys on their first pop.

The second round I was able to sit back and relax and enjoy it more, talking filthy dirty the whole time, which seemed to amuse her. She was moaning as she sucked, and she sighed in response to my dirty phrases. She would half giggle when I called her "Daddy’s little cum piggie,” and afterward she said she had never heard that one before, and it “sounded cute.” That seems to be a common response, unless the SW is all hung up about dirty talking for whatever reason.

Ratings? Face: 4 1/2 stars (very cute); Body: 4 stars (it might be 5 stars for all I know but I didn’t exactly get her naked to find out; she seems to have 5 star potential from what I saw and felt); BJ: 5 stars; Fucking: N/A (maybe on a future indoor date); Attitude: 4 stars (she was pleasant enough, but I wanted an indoor date and she refused; I understand why but hasn’t she ever been taught that the customer is always right?); Overall: 4 stars (for what it was; a good parking 2 cup BBBJCIMSP); Repeatable? Sure, if she can get over the jitters and do an indoor date; I would give it a shot. YMMV

Supereloquent

03-26-10, 19:40

Fbtom

03-26-10, 21:18

I guess I'm an oddball then, I like reading your hearsay SuperE! Very well written as usual.

Supereloquent

03-26-10, 22:08

I guess I'm an oddball then, I like reading your hearsay SuperE! Very well written as usual.

I hope you either didn't mean what you wrote, or you didn't understand the meaning of "hearsay," and perhaps meant "detail" instead?

Hearsay is information gathered by one person from another concerning some event, condition, or thing of which the first person had no direct experience.

That is why hearsay testimony is inadmissible in court. Only what a person experiences or hears first hand is admissible.

Proxysss

03-27-10, 02:18

Jess looks like a dude.

Cls9637

03-27-10, 05:25

Jess looks like a dude.I believe you might need glasses.(LOL) Jess is cute, and I, for one, would like to see more of her.

Supereloquent

03-27-10, 08:21

Nice pics and post Cooky. I adore gals from or descended from the European Eastern Block countries, and what is and formerly was Russia. Part of that is their generally fun and carefree attitude, and part is that I grew up with girls like that and they make me feel like I am having a pleasantly nostalgic experience from my youth.

You reported that she advertises on line but I have seen this chick on the Ave on occasion in the vicinity of the Woodshed and/or Cambria and/or Venango. I seemed to have been headed somewhere in a hurry, fresh from a previous date (not that such always stops me) or just window shopping and scoping out the Ave when I saw her. If I had known she was Polish I may have sampled her, and I just may do that in the future.

Supereloquent

03-27-10, 09:32

A wise friend once told me that good advice is worth about what you pay for it, so both what Cepalopod Love had to say and what I have to say should probably be evaluated with that wise admonition in mind. We just obviously have somewhat different points of view.

I disclose that I am NOT an attorney nor have I attended law school nor even studied law, nor law enforcement practices, so I would defer to professional expertise in these areas. I know that my "opinions" about the economy and appropriate investment strategies, while admittedly never perfect, are going to come from a much more educated and experienced viewpoint than some guy who read an article in the Wall Street Journal this morning and now thinks he is an economic and investment genius. My opinions about the matters ahead are similarly seat of the pants, but they are also based upon almost a lifetime of practical experience with absolutely no LE problems in my mongering activity, which may be caution, wisdom, luck of the draw, who knows? So here's my 2 cents worth:

1. What are some good strategies to plan in advance with a SW to be prepared for this type of situation?

Have your story straight - forget about what the SW will say. It's your word against a SW'ers? Trying to work up a story with a SW in advance, "just in case," seems like a recipe for her bolting on you and a low probability operation.

Having YOUR story straight goes without question, but I think that having that same story straight between you and the SW might prove invaluable. It is always your word against hers, but why not try to be on the same page, at least to start? If she departs from the story you are no worse off than having none at all.

2. Does one have complicit criminal responsibility if the SW has outstanding warrants or has drugs on her person? Suppose she stashes them in your vehicle quickly (and stupidly)?

This is the prime risk of mongering and why one wants to avoid allowing a lady to cop. Any street smart SW that is holding is going to dump the minute they see LE come up. If LE finds drugs in your car - the rap is on you. It's your car, LE found the drugs in your car. Case closed. {watch COPS on TV - you'll see this a hundred times}

Never allowing a SW to cop before you date is wise advice. But also, never voluntarily consent to a search of your vehicle. I know that much about your important rights. If they threaten to impound it, whatever, make them do it. You may or may not know if the SW stashed some drugs in your vehicle. If they find drugs on her, there may be probable cause to search you or your vehicle, but never volunteer such a search. There is always a probability the search can be overturned as illegal, but not if you allow it. If it becomes a drug possession issue then LE is either going to arrest you or not, but they are likely going to check for priors and, if you are clean, they may or may not cut you some slack. They likely suspect in such circumstances that you are not the guilty party, but sometimes that isn't the issue. Drugs are a whole different kettle of fish, so, yes. that is a huge risk you take picking up any SW. You just don't want to get stopped or discovered parking and in the act for any reason whatsoever.

I can't imagine anyone has any responsibility to know if a lady entering your car has warrants - unless one wants to deputize every monger out there.

Perhaps not, but if she has outstanding warrants the hassle on your ass may just become that much heavier. They can always arrest you for something if they feel like it.

3. When a SW blabs her head off like that and virtually admits you were having sex for money, what should one do if questioned: disagree? lie? tell the truth and hope for leniency? invoke your right to silence and perhaps piss them off enough to arrest you?

See the videos I posted about how to deal with LE. Once LE approaches a fast thinking monger could perhaps advise the lady to keep quiet and let him do the talking. But regardless of what she says - NEVER incriminate yourself. Don't fall into that game of the LE is your friend or wants to help you out. IF LE hasn't seen and heard an offer of money for sex, then it seems like the proof of mongering activity is in a "he said she said." Most of these charges are minor infractions [other than the scarlet letter society imposes] so LE wants you to pay the fine and not get caught up in court with the expense of time & resources. LE knows the rules and what may appear as leniency may be just a case of not having enough evidence of a crime. So don't hand them a freebie. If you make it hard to prosecute [i.e. don't incriminate yourself or give up your rights], then an attorney should be able to make any mess created by an over zealous LE go away.

On these points I somewhat agree. However, you can tell her to let you do the talking all you want, but LE, as sure as the sun rises in the East, will pull her aside to get her story, and hear your story separately and try to use one version against the other. I fully agree with one point: don't incriminate yourself. What you say can and WILL be used against you in a court of law.

4. IF you both have a story in advance that you are 2 people who met and hit it off and were just having fun, and you stick to the story (which the police probably won't believe anyway), do you risk pissing them off and having them arrest you on some other charge? What charges might those be? (public lewdness or indecency?)

I dunno, if one is that afraid of pissing off LE then it seems likely one is going to fall into one of LE's "gotcha' traps when they appear to be your friend. Are you really this afraid of LE or just being rhetorical?

I think like Mad Monger said, the issue isn't just getting arrested for solicitation but getting arrested at all for anything. As I said before, having your stories straight beforehand can't hurt (and I usually do; smart SWs don't want to get arrested either and they see the value in having a story straight other than she is trying to make some money).

If LE literally catches you with your pants down and the SW undressed, as described, I am sure there are any number of ordinances being broken if they care to arrest you. But you don't want the arrest to be a solicitation or drug charge if you can help it.

5. I suppose invoking your rights to be silent and not allowing voluntary search are good starts but does one risk pushing the police not to be lenient and just let you go if your record is clean?

Again - STICK TO PROTECTING YOUR RIGHTS! Never give them away. Once you do you can't get them back! After the third time in this post of statements that sound like one is afraid of not cooperating with LE, I'm concerned about you. If one is this afraid of contacts with LE then [not to be a smartazz] it might make sense to avoid mongering all together - stick with AMPs or escorts.

All agreed there. Be cordial and polite because LE may exercise discretion to let you go with a slap on the wrist, but never voluntarily allow search and never admit to a damn thing.

As for AMPs or escorts, I don't know that provides any more protection. It is a lot easier for LE to set up a sting that way than on the K. A smart monger can avoid a street sting in so many ways, which we have discussed before, without having to use his phone, go to a place which may have cameras and be staked out, etc.

6. How much leeway does LE generally exercise in this type of circumstance when your paperwork is in order and you have a squeaky clean record. Is my friend's experience typical or does it really depend on the officers involved and/or where it takes place?

Who can answer this question definitively? You are dealing with another human being and as such there are many variables out there so YMMV.

I have heard many stories from SWs that they were caught parking with a monger, and both were let go as long as they were trying to be discreet about it (parked in a secluded area and not near residences, etc.). A few have told me they were let go and the monger got a fine (For what I don't know). However, these are stories and second hand, so take them for what they are. I have no first hand accounts to relate.

7. Do the police keep a record of the incident and can they use it against my friend on a future occasion to be much less lenient?

Who knows? Maybe individual cops, districts or cities keep records of "stops." Any decision to be "lenient", again, is going to be made by a human being with all of his prejudices, emotions, etc. at the time of the encounter.

It sure sounds like you are looking for a set of hard fast rules you can apply to be safe. Doubt there are any that would fit all circumstances.

Use common sense, be polite, do not incriminate yourself.

Totally agreed. I don't even know what the law enforcement practice is in Philly for a routine stop where there is no arrest, and the paperwork was checked. Human nature always applies, as does the discretion of the officer(s) involved, their experience and what they feel is on their front burner. I am sure some would be a prick and arrest or at least fine you and others would slap you on the wrist and let you go, figuring they had bigger fish to fry. In a city like Philly, a guy getting his tool waxed in a car is relatively small potatoes compared to the other important and life threatening shit with which they likely have to deal day in and day out.

Common sense, politeness, not incriminating yourself (and not voluntarily allowing a search): these are wise words by which to live.

Be careful out there.

Goofygoon

03-27-10, 12:43

I guess I'm an oddball then, I like reading your hearsay SuperE! Very well written as usual.Maybe he meant heresy.

Heresy: a belief that rejects the orthodox tenets of a religion.

Street Steve

03-27-10, 12:59

Street Steve:Thanks for the intel on Dawn.

Information on ripoffs, bad dates and dangerous SWs is even more valuable than positive reviews. We need to be aware of these SWs to avoid them, and having pics is especially useful.

you are most welcome SuperE, if enough of us report these Ripoffs they will not make the near the money they would have. Honest SW's hate them even more the we do. They have told me so. "they ruin it for all of us" I have heard them say. They way they see it is this: because of these thieves, all SW's are not are trusted to cop, and everyone ends up being dope sick.

Supereloquent

03-27-10, 13:27

That sounds like a premeditated rip-off to me as well - I take back what I wrote before. :( And for a lousy $10... I hate it, it's happened to me too many times.

I don't care about the money. I would't miss a lousy 10 bucks. I have allowed a girl to buy some food or cigarettes on the way to an indoor date, but never drugs. I have never been ripped off for a coke and a sandwich, or a pack of Marlboro's, not that such is impossible. But allowing her to cop for drugs exposes you to potential legal problems which could be very serious. We face such potential problems anyway unless we plan to thoroughly search every SW we pick up, but we don't need to make this problem a dead certainty, and I am not hanging out in a known drug area waiting for some skank to get her fix, and be robbed, mugged, shot or pinched.

When I've given girls money up front to cop, maybe I thought "the date will go better if they're feeling good" or something, but I wonder how many times that actually has happened to me; twice? three times? More likely I find myself parked in front of some crack house way too long, out of place, out of luck, and just begging to get busted. Meanwhile, the girl gets away with it, which just makes it that much more likely she'll try it on the next guy - it just sucks.

If a date is dope sick, I either see it before I pick her up and avoid her or let her out when I see it up close. I am not interested, regardless what she looks like. A date with me cops after the date, never before. I used to drop them off at their "distributor," but I have stopped that practice as well. I drop them off near to where I picked them up...period.

A SW who has recently shot up and/or smoked and/or popped is fairly wasted and numb anyway, and not much good if you like sexual responsiveness. I was never much into necrophelia.

Supereloquent

03-27-10, 13:43

To Proxysss:

You are just another rock throwing newbie who crawled out of his cave with nothing constructive to contribute. There seems to be a never ending supply of you idiots.

Either SHOW us your idea of the SW "excellence" of which you imply that you partake versus us supposed low-lifes, or SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Supereloquent

03-27-10, 14:03

I saw “Andrea” on a hot corner of the northern part of the stroll. She was dressed in a very short, tight, black skirt, gray wool body stockings, like a dancer would wear, and high-heeled boots. She looked like one of the classier SWs one might see on Hollywood Boulevard in LA, a la Julia Roberts in "Pretty Woman." The SW look on the K tends more to be the blend-in "suburban teen" look of worn jeans, a hoodie and sneakers. "Andrea" stood out; that's for certain.

Cooky had just done a report and photo spread on “Andrea” and I recognized her immediately from that, as well as the fact that I had seen her on the Ave a number of times before. She bounced into my car and announced a different name (I guess she uses one name for the street, and a different one for Backpage). She looked good. I was expecting her to have an accent after reading her Backpage ad, linked in Cooky’s report, which advertised her as a “Polish Vixen.” Maybe that’s her “shtick,” as many Backpage gals are good marketers and have great “selling hooks." both literally and figuratively. Being quite accomplished in the field of marketing myself, I appreciate excellent selling skills, but mongering to me is preferably an “amateur” street talent search. I find the on-line and escort pros to be relatively good looking, by and large, but are over-hyped sex actresses at best when you get right down to it. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that, if such is what one seeks. I would personally prefer a needy “amateur type" who also truly enjoys sucking and fucking. Hey, like my grandmother always said, there is a lid for every pot.

We hadn’t even traveled a few blocks and “Andrea” was into her sales patter, asking what I had in mind. I wasn’t worried that she was an LE decoy, although she sure looked like one. I said, uncharacteristically, that I had in mind driving her to a nice motel, and enticing her to allow me to take some very sexy pics, and suck my cock and fuck me like there was no tomorrow. She laughed and said, “Why go to a hotel? We can go to my place.” Now normally that would ring all kinds of alarm bells in my head. She could have really been a decoy, and was setting me up for a sting, or a robbery or whatever. Normally I would have politely declined. But Cooky’s report lessened my fear considerably that this wouldn’t happen. Often I am the provider of such valuable intel, regardless how much some of you flamers tend to differ. However, today I was the recipient. I felt comfortable accepting her offer to go to her place. I figured it would be a lot nicer than a 10 spot house, and I was right about that. I also figured it would be fairly convenient, and I was right about that too. I also figured that I could be nice and add what I would have spent on a nice motel room, in addition to a tip, if “Andrea” proved to be an excellent date. I was sorta right about that. You will see what I mean.

On the way we negotiated. “Andrea” told me what she advertises on-line, (not that she fucks for money; but if she did fuck me just because she likes to, hey, I might be a nice guy, and the whole deal could be a friend with benefits arrangement :D) She said she comes out on the K when her internet business is slow. I told her flat out that I wasn’t interested in her internet deal. She was on the Ave and Ave customs would prevail. I would go for a normal K arrangement plus tip, if warranted. If that wasn’t acceptable I would drop her back at her corner. She allowed that it was a slow day, or she wouldn’t be out here otherwise, and I seemed like a really decent guy, so that would be OK. She also said she loved to pose for pics, and had some cute outfits to wear when we got to her place.

We arrived at “Andrea’s” place. It was a dicey neighborhood on a very narrow street. I had to park up on the sidewalk to allow cars to get past without hitting me. In the absence of having read Cooky’s intel, I think I may have deep-sixed the date right there. When we got inside, the upstairs “neighbor” came to the top of the stairs and I recognized her as “Rachel,” also recently reported on by Cooky. I further recognized her as the former “Kylie,” previously reported on a few times in this forum when she was working for a pimp (or maybe she still was; for all I know both “Andrea” and “Rachel’ were working the internet and the Ave for a pimp), and providing service which was sometimes OK and sometimes terrible. “Andrea” said that “Rachel’ also worked on-line in their escort service. I guess it is good that she has gotten out from under her pimp, and has become an entrepreneur, if that is, in fact, the case. Cooky’s report and photo spread indicates that at least he got her on a good day. My first hand experience with Kylie has been all bad, and it has also been reported on as inconsistent by a number of other mongers, but I guess everyone deserves a second chance, so let’s see if her rep can be repaired and continue to be good. She was smart enough at least to change her working name, because she certainly had trashed her SW reputation as "Kylie."

“Andrea” couldn’t get in her place, and then realized that she had locked her keys inside. This would have also normally had me bolting the hell out of there, and thinking it was a set-up. However, as it was, I was just thinking that SWs, whether entrepreneurial or not, weren’t rocket scientists, not that we ever thought any differently. She called her ”landlord,” and he said he would be “right over” to give her a spare key. I should have known that “right over” was the same as airline speak for “slight delay.” Almost 45 minutes later this joker shows up with a spare for her to open the door. As an aside, he seemed very much like a pimp to me. He didn’t get out of his car. He strangely parked half-way down the street, and was doing his level best to stay well out of sight. His car was a pimped-up ride if ever I saw one. The only upside was that "Andrea" and I had a chance to have a conversation while waiting. She may be dumb enough to lock in her keys, but she seemed to have a head on her shoulders otherwise. She said her apartment used to be a store, and one could see the vestiges of this in the layout, right down to the sliding garage door on the side of the back for deliveries.

When we entered she put on some music, and got dressed in a cute, sexy outfit for pics. She claimed she loved to have pics taken, but, when I was ready to take the naked pics, she just wanted to get into it. My thought was that I would take the pics after the first cup. She knelt at the edge of her bed naked, and worked a rubber onto my cock with her mouth. Her CBJ skills were adequate, but nothing special. I was horny and I got hard in a hurry. She seemed in a rush to fuck, and spread out on her bed and said, “Fuck me, I want it baby.” I liked the dirty talk, but it was so obviously an act. Regardless, I am not one to complain about a dirty talker. She pretty much would say anything I desired, and had some acting talent, so it was all good. She had a thin, lithe body and a tight pussy so having her was the usual treat in fucking a spinner.

She got a phone call after the first cup, and it was a date from her internet ad. He was coming off 95, and needed directions. She said he would be there in about 30 minutes, so we would have to “hurry,” for the second cup. She knew I wanted more than one, because we had talked about it, but she clearly did not have a clue that shoving me aside for this internet date, and having me “hurry,” was going to be a downer for me, and cut into my usual generosity for a tip, and maybe lessen my desire to see her again. That’s another thing I don’t like about internet pros. It’s ALL about the roses (hey, that can also be the case with usual street pickups as well, but I have had better sexual experiences there than with internet pros), and they think they can manipulate you because they think they have become good at it. Well some guys are OK with that and some guys aren’t. It isn’t like I think too much of myself. It’s not a matter of ego. She isn’t my damn gf. It’s business both ways. I am a customer. She agreed to something, and she should see it through, and tell the other guy to wait. I recognize that she has a business to run, but she was cutting our time short for some internet sucker with a previously unplanned appointment. Hey, it’s business, but I don’t have to like it, and I don’t have to be a sucker too, and be a generous tipper. That’s another reason why I prefer the exclusive multiple-hour, multiple-cup experience with a good street pick-up. You don’t have to put up with any shit like this.

Anyway, she sucked me hard, and we fucked again, and I got a few naked pics at the end, but the guy who called must have broken land speed records to get there from 95. He called and said he was just a few blocks away. So I quickly got dressed, and left, with no tip for “Andrea.” The sucker who was driving there was going to be on the clock for a considerable premium to my arrangement. So, there was at least some justice and satisfaction in that. By a different name and venue this gal was available to me for less than half her internet deal, and perhaps the penalty for that is having to be yesterday’s news when she gets a call from an internet sucker.

Ratings? Face: 4 ½ stars (pretty/cute and almost 5 stars); Body: 4 ½ stars (the overall body was vintage spinner and the ass and pussy were superb; slight deduction for smallish sagging tits); BJ: 4 stars (above average but I have had a lot better); Fucking: 4 ½ stars (nice little package to fuck, but, again, not perfect); Attitude: 4 stars (pleasant enough, but having the interruption was a downer; c’est la vie ); Overall: 4 stars; Repeatable? Only if we establish firm ground rules beforehand: Ave rates, of course; no more rude internet date interruptions, and lots more pic taking, because, regardless of any of my complaints or her shortcomings, this gal CAN pose and fuck!) YMMV

Supereloquent

03-27-10, 14:05

I have to say that "Andrea" had posing skill. I have also included a few of her Backpage ad pics.

XxATLxX

03-27-10, 15:25

I have to say that "Andrea" had posing skill. I have also included a few of her Backpage ad pics.

I guess I gotta be the first to say that is pretty obvious that those BP pics were taken a long time, and a lot of drugs ago. Just another case of what you see in the pics, isn't close to what you get when you show up. Even if it is the same girl.

Boob Luvah

03-27-10, 16:16

Does Kylie, Andrea and Nikki (picture on the link) stays on the same house?

http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=79288

Davey1965

03-27-10, 18:10

She said she comes out on the K when her internet business is slow.

Whether busy or slow, Idriss makes all his girls hit the streets, no matter how much online business they get. That kinda keeps them down and as a reminder of where he got them from. If a pimps girl starts feeling too good about herself and her wares, then she might leave him.

I told her flat out that I wasn’t interested in her internet deal. She was on the Ave and Ave customs would prevail. I would go for a normal K arrangement plus tip, if warranted. If that wasn’t acceptable I would drop her back at her corner.

That seems to be the norm. Unless you know otherwise they will hit you up with that, but regular K rate seem to prevail with his girls. Not a bad price if the date is good considering that the room is included. His girl aren't allowed to go to any hotels. Idriss keep a tight leash on them and "his" money.[/QUOTE]

We arrived at “Andrea’s” place. It was a dicey neighborhood on a very narrow street. I had to park up on the sidewalk to allow cars to get past without hitting me. In the absence of having read Cooky’s intel, I think I may have deep-sixed the date right there.

Actually that street isn't all that bad. Worse than it looks. I usually park on the ave and just walk back whenever a girls house is close to the ave. At least I have a chance to get away, in my car and out without the worry of being blocked in.

Almost 45 minutes later this joker shows up with a spare for her to open the door. As an aside, he seemed very much like a pimp to me. He didn’t get out of his car. He strangely parked half-way down the street, and was doing his level best to stay well out of sight. His car was a pimped-up ride if ever I saw one.

That's Idriss..Will have to snap a pick of his car when I get a chance and post it so everyone here knows who he is.

Glad you posted the older pics of her from the backpage ad as well. Like Kylie the difference in the pics from BP to now is drastically dramatic.

CookyJar

03-27-10, 21:58

Does Kylie, Andrea and Nikki (picture on the link) stays on the same house?

http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=79288

Did I miss something? Where is the original report on Nikki? Please don't tell me I missed out on her.

CookyJar

Supereloquent

03-27-10, 22:28

Did I miss something? Where is the original report on Nikki? Please don't tell me I missed out on her.

CookyJar

It's a very small world on the K.

I did the original report on Nikki some time ago. I took that pic for which Boob Luvah provided a link. When I dated Nikki she had a room upstairs at that same location where Rachel and Andrea live. I had forgotten that until I saw the information and the link that Boob Luvah provided. I had approached that location from a different angle when dating Nikki. What a difference that can obviously make, because I didn't make the connection until just now. She had a roomie who was a pregnant junkie SW, dope sick in the bathroom at the time. I didn't see Nikki around when I was there with Andrea. Someone had reported a while ago, and sometime after I dated her, that Nikki got straightened out and moved back to NJ. She had somewhat the same MO as Andrea and Rachel: Nikki advertised on the internet as KC on YPE, but you could also pick her up on the K. It wouldn't surprise me if she was/is working for the same pimp that they are.

Here is a link to my original report from last July:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=841838&postcount=264

There are quite a few pics and there was a lot of discussion about her advertising and pics on YPE.

So, what you are telling us Boob Luvah is that Nikki is back in that location again, where Andrea and Rachel live?

JerryGarcia

03-27-10, 23:57

The girl I dated a few nights ago (Ashley) is about the 3rd or 4th girl who has told me that Nikki got clean and is back home in South Jersey. Nikki was quite the rage on the other board (BestGFE) about a year ago, when some genius found her off a Backpage ad and tagged her as an UTR brilliant find. The mods got mad at me when I attempted to clue them in to the fact that Nikki(KC) was a SW who could be had for much lower prices if you found her on the stroll. Davey knows that whole story regarding the other board and its pompous members, especially that jerkauph named "easyrider".

I haven't had the time to write my report on Ashley yet--from what she told me, I am pretty sure that Ashley works for Teddy, although she insisted that she has no pimp and is "independent".

I believe also that Ashley is the sister of Jamie Lynn/Gianna--but she didn't tell me that--it was written in another post on this site by someone who dated her when she was 8 months pregnant last Summer. She has a little girl who is being taken care of by her mother--she claims she also had a baby boy about 3 years ago, but he died of sudden infant death or crib death. (I am also relatively certain that Ashley is the pregnant junkie SW in that particular scene or chapter of your great American novel as described in the post below). She looks very good right now, and has almost no sign of having had a child recently--body is superb and tight.

Ashley and I had a discussion on the car ride back to the K about pimps and the street scene. She told me that Teddy is good to his girls, and that she doesn't like Idriss at all, and cited a particular story as evidence of her dislike of him--all these girls who work for Teddy and Idriss know one another and some may have taken turns working for both. I am pretty certain that Nikki (KC) used to work for Teddy, because somebody ran a photo shoot of "KC and her friends" on BestGFE, which included pics of Krista (Krista the all-time BJ and FS queen of Teddy's stable--has worked for him since 2002). Yet, SuperE's encounter took place in Idriss's place.

I found this Ashley close to the corner of a certain convenience store (not WaWa, lol). She is extremely cute with blue eyes and a fair complexion with "fake" red hair--the rug is brunette and doesn't match the drapes. I was disappointed in that fact, because I have a thing for redheads.

Just the facts, ma'am.

Oh, and Boob Luvah is IMO apparently asking-not telling, about Nikki and whether she is still around.

Love the pics that both you and Cooky posted of Andrea-her flexibility is quite an alluring attribute. I would venture to say that she may be the most flexible SW ever portrayed on these pages over the years--perhaps a new category can be created for her in the SW of the Year thread.

Supereloquent

03-28-10, 07:55

I believe also that Ashley is the sister of Jamie Lynn/Gianna--but she didn't tell me that--it was written in another post on this site by someone who dated her when she was 8 months pregnant last Summer.

I heard that as well, but can't confirm it. Maybe Davey can; he is the official K maven in residence.

(I am also relatively certain that Ashley is the pregnant junkie SW in that particular scene or chapter of your great American novel as described in the post below).

Ashley WAS the pregnant SW barfing in the bathroom one time when I dated Nikki at Idriss's place last summer. And, yes, I DO tend to be verbose, don't I? :D

She looks very good right now, and has almost no sign of having had a child recently--body is superb and tight.

I am very glad to hear it. I am sure I will be running into her on the K some time.

Ashley and I had a discussion on the car ride back to the K about pimps and the street scene. She told me that Teddy is good to his girls, and that she doesn't like Idriss at all, and cited a particular story as evidence of her dislike of him--all these girls who work for Teddy and Idriss know one another and some may have taken turns working for both. I am pretty certain that Nikki (KC) used to work for Teddy, because somebody ran a photo shoot of "KC and her friends" on BestGFE, which included pics of Krista (Krista the all-time BJ and FS queen of Teddy's stable--has worked for him since 2002).

That place may have been Teddy's once upon a time, as you surmised, and now is Idriss's. That would make sense if both Nikki and Ashley once worked for Teddy, and Teddy set Idriss up in business.

I have dated Krista, and I did a photo spread on her. I nicknamed her the "maneater," because she can take your cock halfway down your ball sack, best DT ever!

Here is a link to my report and pics of Krista:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=821337&postcount=161

Krista gave me the name "Amanda" at the time of our date. This seems in tune with the MO of Teddy's and Idriss's girls: one name for the internet and a different name for the street. However, many mongers seem to know "Amanda" as Krista on the street:

Yet, SuperE's encounter took place in Idriss's place.

Yes, it most certainly did. And it was the same place I dated Nikki last summer and noticed her roomie, the barfing, very pregnant Ashley.

I found this Ashley close to the corner of a certain convenience store (not WaWa, lol).

Gee, what one could THAT be? LOL

To help clear the air further concerning our recent written shoving match over the Aramingo Wawa: you have been a supporter of me in this forum, and you should not have been a target of my ire in that regard. As I explained and apologized to Mike80, I was feeling a bit testy, and I was inappropriately trying to take down everyone in my line of fire, even friendlies.

She is extremely cute with blue eyes and a fair complexion with "fake" red hair--the rug is brunette and doesn't match the drapes. I was disappointed in that fact, because I have a thing for redheads.

I have a thing for redheads too. It stems from a very hot encounter as a youth with redheaded identical triplet very distant cousins. Perhaps one day I will write it for the nostalgia thread, although it was a civvie and not a SW encounter.

Just the facts, ma'am.

What can I tell you? I was having a bad hair day when being sardonic in a few of my recent reports. I will eventually tell the full stories, and show pics of all my recent "Joe Friday" summaries, because they were all real.

Oh, and Boob Luvah is IMO apparently asking-not telling, about Nikki and whether she is still around.

His inquiry jogged my memory that I dated Nikki in the very house where I dated Andrea and noticed Rachel.

I haven't seen Nikki around since last summer. I wish her well if she has gotten clean, and gotten her life back together. She has one "bodacious set of tatas," from one famous movie line, and was a very fun date, so she is welcome on my K dance card ANYtime.

Love the pics that both you and Cooky posted of Andrea-her flexibility is quite an alluring attribute. I would venture to say that she may be the most flexible SW ever portrayed on these pages over the years--perhaps a new category can be created for her in the SW of the Year thread.

Andrea IS flexible. She volunteered that pose with her leg stretched high in the air. I would love to do a longer photo session with her in the future. She would have been well served to do so, and be less abrupt, on our recent date. I can be very generous when I get what I want.

Supereloquent

03-28-10, 08:09

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CookyJar

03-28-10, 09:11

We arrived at “Andrea’s” place. It was a dicey neighborhood on a very narrow street. I had to park up on the sidewalk to allow cars to get past without hitting me. In the absence of having read Cooky’s intel, I think I may have deep-sixed the date right there.

IMHO, Most of the areas, side streets east and west of Kensington Avenue are dicey. Anyone who has done a loop, driven around the block anywhere off of Kensington Avenue has driven through a dicey street.

Are you suggesting that my intel had anything to do with your having a bad date?

When we got inside, the upstairs “neighbor” came to the top of the stairs and I recognized her as “Rachel,” also recently reported on by Cooky. I further recognized her as the former “Kylie,” previously reported on a few times in this forum when she was working for a pimp (or maybe she still was; for all I know both “Andrea” and “Rachel’ were working the internet and the Ave for a pimp), and providing service which was sometimes OK and sometimes terrible. “Andrea” said that “Rachel’ also worked on-line in their escort service. I guess it is good that she has gotten out from under her pimp, and has become an entrepreneur, if that is, in fact, the case. Cooky’s report and photo spread indicates that at least he got her on a good day. My first hand experience with Kylie has been all bad, and it has also been reported on as inconsistent by a number of other mongers, but I guess everyone deserves a second chance,so let’s see if her rep can be repaired and continue to be good.

Everyone is different. Each situation deserves its own considerations. In the situation you have described, I would have done things a little different. That is why I am who I am, and you are who you are. Even with the knowledge of a pass bad date, rushing though my memory banks, I would have tried to turn things around to my advantage. It may not have worked, but I would have tried. There is no way to tell if another approach would have worked, but, IMHO it would have been worth a try.

I would have tried for a threesome. All dates are hit and miss. Sometime you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you. Last time the bear got you. IMHO, you were due (for a good one). You had two hot girls, Rachel and Andrea, in the same building, and you did not at least give it the old college try. During our date, Andrea told me that anything was possible, including threesomes.

For certain, knowing Rachel’s history, I would have set up some rules. I would have tried to play Andrea against Rachel. Why? Andrea is the better business woman and an unknown. I would have employed her as lead worker. I would have played the, “It could be good for your business,” card. And, I would have tried to use my pass bad date with Rachel/Kylee as leverage. In front of Andrea, I would have said to Rachel, “We dated before and I was not happy with your performance. If you are not up to it, we do not have to do this.” I would have been looking into their eyes, at their body language for any hint of a bad outcome. This is when your spider senses are most important. My wicked, oversexed big head would have been working overtime, playing every angle, trying to get these two hotties, together with me, in the same bed.

“Andrea” couldn’t get in her place, and then realized that she had locked her keys inside. This would have also normally had me bolting the hell out of there, and thinking it was a set-up. However, as it was, I was just thinking that SWs, whether entrepreneurial or not, weren’t rocket scientists,…

Ditto my last suggestion. I would have been thinking – lemons into Lemonade. When given a bad situation some people go immediately to the negative and brood. I am not a rocket scientist either. I do know enough to try and turn unfavorable conditions into favorable outcomes. My first suggestion to, Andrea, would have been, “Let us go visit your roommates.” I would have been thinking threesome all the way

There is at least two other rooms in the house. Rachel was locked out of her front room during our date. We used a middle area which was open to anyone walking by. A blonde (that looked a lot like Nikki) has the back room. I did not care in the least as the hot blonde next door (who could have been Nikki with a dye job), walked pass showing off her bare bottom. Also, after seeing the layout of the house, I would have suggested that we take the pictures right there in the hallway. I made that suggestion to Andrea during our date. She was up for it. Hot pictures taken of Andrea posing on the carpeted stair would have been the bees knees. Knowing me – and I do know me – I would have tried to fuck Andrea right there on the stairs. I would have at least opted for a Blow Job on the steps while we were waiting. But, that's me and the way I think – always trying to make things better for the Company – the sign of a good business person.

She got a phone call after the first cup, and it was a date from her internet ad. He was coming off 95, and needed directions. She said he would be there in about 30 minutes, so we would have to “hurry,” for the second cup. She knew I wanted more than one, because we had talked about it, but she clearly did not have a clue that shoving me aside for this internet date, and having me “hurry,” was going to be a downer for me, and cut into my usual generosity for a tip, and maybe lessen my desire to see her again. That’s another thing I don’t like about internet pros.

Once again, I ask you not to place your bad fortunes at my feet. I had no idea you were there when I called Andrea. ;) I was on my way back from, “Franklin Mills,” when I decided to call Andrea. At any rate this seems to have been you problem and not mine. But, had I been in your shoes, I would have reminded Andrea of her responsibilities to me. I would have reminded her of the bird in hand rule. In short, I would have simply told her to tell him to park and wait. However, I am glad you choose to be rushed. I hate waiting. LOL I resent your calling me a “Internet Sucker.”

Andrea got a phone during our date. Fortunately for me, the call came at the very end of our date – I was finished. Had she gotten the call two minutes earlier I would have probably felt the same way you did. Timing is everything.

…, regardless of any of my complaints or her shortcomings, this gal CAN pose and fuck!) YMMV

YMMV – Your Mileage May Very – is not that the whole thing in a nut shell. Timing is everything. It always comes down to either being in the right place at the right time or being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It starts at birth. It ends when you die. In between you either learn to make the best of it or you do not. In any given situation it is up to the people involved to make the best of it or not. No one likes it when things do not go their way - but, “Shit Happens.” When you step in a pile of shit, my suggestion is to just wipe it off. Do not stand around cussing – the shit is not listening. Life is what you make of it, at the time it is happening. Afterwards, it is too late.

Nikki was everything you could want: cute, firm gorgeous body, smiling and pleasant, a real GFE in all those respects, and a sexily perky hostess. She gave me a vanilla orange soda that tasted like a liquid creamsicle. It was delicious and reminded me that I hadn't had a creamsicle in decades.

Nikki did a reasonable BJ but couldn’t DT. She took direction well but you could tell this is not exactly something she has been practicing a lot. She was much better at fucking and had a very comfortably tight pussy. I took her mish for quite a while and finished her off with doggie. I just knew I had to get views both of her great tits and that terrific ass while pumping that soft wet puss.

WTF – Forget Rachel, I would have been after a Andrea and Nikki threesome. In fact, if I had the staying powers you have stated you have, I would have double the street wages, added in a tip and challenged them all to a foursome. Help me Jesus, the man has lost his mind. You forgot about Nikki - how could that be? I could be wrong, I only got glimpses of the girl I saw – but, I swear Nikki looks a lot like the cute blond, with the bodacious set of tatas, I saw during my first visit. You should have asked about her. I understand about the bad date with Rachel/Kylee. I do not understand about the 45 minute wait for a key. I will never understand how you could forget about Kikki and the location where your date with her took place. If you did not want them, you should have asked for my sake.

And it was the same place I dated Nikki last summer…

Now he remembers.

…Up sold me for CIMWS. 40 but guys let me tell you this chick is a cock sucking machine when she's into it.

Had an amazing dream last night about a girl named Rachel.
When she first got in, she told me $50. I said no and said $20 and if its good I will give you a bonus. Well, she earned her bonus for sure! I facefucked her for at least 5 minutes straight. It was amazing.

She was on the Ave and Ave customs would prevail. I would go for a normal K arrangement plus tip, if warranted.

I am stumped. What exactly is the going rates. I have read Andreas rates as posted on,”BackPage.” They are there for all to see. They are clear and precise. What are the average Avenue rates. I have not the slightest idea what Supereloquent and the rest of you are talking about. Avenue prices? Ave customs? WTF are you talking about? $40. For a CIMWS car date. $20 for a 5 minute amazing facefuck? I am so confused.

Lets clear the air.

1. $30 or less for a car date – more if she is nice and FS is also provided.
2. The same for a inside date at a crummy $10 spot.
3. $40 for a trip to the Carlyle – Half and Half date with no frills.
4. $50 for really good service from a pretty girl in a nice room.
5. A good tip is $5, no more than $10
6. Favorites get more.
7. Pictures are a separate negotiation, but ought not go higher than an additional $20.

If I did pay for pussy (and I don’t). I would consider these fair.

FYI: If you total up: $50 for services, $20 for a room at the Carlyle or $35+ at a better hotel, throw in another $5 or $10 for snacks or cigarettes and a good date could cost you an average of $90 plus Tip. Add in pictures and multiple cups (additional $20 if you stay an extra hour at the Carlyle) and you are talking a small fortune.

Are these the average Kensington Ave rates? I do not know. I do not know what others pay. I only know what I do. I know I pay extra for pictures. I do not know what Supereloquent pays, the average SW, for multiple cups and lengthy dates over an hour. I would suspect that he pays more than $20 for multi pops, blow Jobs to completion and Full service to completion. I do not think anyone pays the rates shown on backpage and other sites advertising the services of escorts, for a date in a car or $10 room. In fact I do not know of anyone, who drives the Kensington avenue stroll, who would pay the high rates posted on Backpage and similar sites, to a streetwalker.

Okay, I am done. whew!!! LOL

Supereloquent, say your piece and then let’s drop it. I just wanted to pull your chain a little. LOL

:)

CookyJar

Supereloquent

03-28-10, 11:04

Let me firstly say that you, like I, sometimes have more sensitivity than we should, and read more into the reports here than is meant. Nothing I said in my report about "Andrea" was meant to be a personal affront to you in any way whatsoever.

IMHO, Most of the areas, side streets east and west of Kensington Avenue are dicey. Anyone who has done a loop, driven around the block anywhere off of Kensington Avenue has driven through a dicey street.

I agree. Even the K is "dicey." That particular area was just creeping me out that day. I thought I heard a gunshot up the street, and there were some nefarious characters hanging about. But, all that aside, my main caution was that I had never been with this SW and I thought I had never been in this house (it turns out I had; I just hadn't remembered at the time; so much for my memory; I have a myriad of "excuses" in that regard, but the most plausible are that the last time I was there was last summer, I approached it from a different angle, and in a different manner (driving vs. walking), and a lot of SW activity has rolled under my bridge since then).

Are you suggesting that my intel had anything to do with your having a bad date?

I am suggesting nothing of the kind. Your intel made me comfy going into that house in the first place. As for the date, YMMV always applies.

Everyone is different. Each situation deserves its own considerations. In the situation you have described, I would have done things a little different. That is why I am who I am, and you are who you are. Even with the knowledge of a pass bad date, rushing though my memory banks, I would have tried to turn things around to my advantage. It may not have worked. There is no way to tell in advance which approach will work, but, IMHO it would have been worth a try.

You are so right. Everyone is different. I had a bad taste in my mouth from several past unappetizing Rachel/Kylie experiences. Even though she is somewhat good looking (even if clearly being more emaciated and worn from the drugs) I didn't trot upstairs and try to partake. I preferred to go out on the K again for a fresh kill, which I did.

I would have tried for a threesome. All dates are hit and miss. Sometime you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you. Last time the bear got you. IMHO, you were due. You had two hot girls like Rachel and Andrea in the same building, and you did not at least give it the old college try. During our date, Andrea told me that anything was possible, including threesomes. For certain, knowing Rachel’s history, I would have set up some rules. I would have tried to play Andrea against Rachel. Why? Andrea is the better business woman and an unknown. I would have employed her as lead worker. I would have played the, “It could be good for your business,” card. And, I would have tried to use my pass bad date with Rachel/Kylee as leverage. In front of Andrea, I would have said to Rachel, “We dated before and I was not happy with your performance. If you are not up to it, we do not have to do this.” I would have been looking into their eyes, at their body motions for any hint of a bad outcome. This is when your spider senses are most important. My wicked, oversexed big head would have been working overtime, playing every angle, trying to get these two hotties, together with me, in the same bed.

Like you said, we are all different. I had absolutely no interest in Rachel/Kylie, for a one-on-one, a threesome, or whatever. Moreover, she looked and sounded like shit, as if she was badly in need of a fix or had a hangover, whatever. I prefer my dates to be alert and conscious, even if I had the inclination to give her a second (fourth?) chance.

Ditto my last suggestion. I would have been thinking – lemons into Lemonade. When given a bad situation some people go immediately to the negative and brood. I am not a rocket scientist either. I do know enough to try and turn unfavorable conditions into favorable outcomes. My first suggest would have been, “Let us go visit your roommates.” I would have been thinking threesome all the way

Rachel/Kylie was the only other one there at the time and, like I said, I wasn't interested in "meeting" her or doing her, or doing a threesome including her. I wasn't "brooding." I do what I want, not what someone else might do. If I KNEW it was going to take 45 minutes for the joker "landlord" Idriss to bring the keys, I probably would have left as soon as "Andrea" realized she was locked out. There was nothing else there in which I had an interest.
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There is at least two other rooms in the house. (Rachel was locked out of her room during our date.

It seems that SWs locking themselves out is an epidemic at that place. I suspect that what really is going on is that Idriss locks them out so that he knows when they are using the rooms, and can come with the keys, let them in, and knows he is due some dough.

We used a middle area which was open to anyone walking by. I did not care in the least as the hot blonde next door, walked by showing off her bare bottom.)

I suggested that "Andrea" and I go upstairs but that wasn't an option for whatever reason. Maybe Rachel/Kylie was entertaining up there. Maybe someone, male or female, was sleeping or wasted. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. However, upstairs wasn't available.

Also, after seeing the layout of the house, I would have suggested that we take the pictures right there in the hallway. I had made that suggestion to Andrea during our date. She was up for it. Hot pictures taken of Andrea posing on the carpeted stair would have been the bees knees. Knowing me – and I do know me – I would have tried to fuck her right there on the stairs. I would have at least opted for a Blow Job on the steps while we were waiting. But, that me and the way I think – always trying to make things better for the Company – the sign of a good business person.

I AM a good business person, and I would have been open to some photos on the stairs, or a BJ, or even fucking her there. But the front door was unlocked and her "landlord' was supposed to be there "right away," not to mention that anyone from the street could walk inside; several suspicious looking characters from the street were eyeballing the situation closely whenever we looked outside for the "landlord," as it was. If my ESP would have been working well enough to know that her "landlord" was her pimp, and my crystal ball would have been working well enough to know it was going to take 45 minutes for him to get there with the keys, and that our time would have been interrupted by an internet call, and I would have had a fearless attitude about unexpected and uninvited intruders to the hallway from the street, then I may have done the stairway routine. As it was, I was preferring and looking forward to the expected comfort and privacy of her apartment.

Once again, I ask you not to place your bad fortunes at my feet.

I haven't and, as I said, you are being too sensitive about the whole thing.

I had no idea you were there when I called Andrea. I was on my way back from, “Franklin Mills,” when I decided to call Andrea.

It wasn't you to whom I was referring as the caller.

At any rate this seems to have been you problem and not mine.

I never said it was. All I did say was that your report caused me to at least try her out and feel that the situation wasn't an LE sting or a robbery. YMMV ALWAYS applies.

But, had I been in your shoes, I would have reminded Andrea of her responsibilities to me. I would have reminded her of the bird in hand rule. In short, I would have simply told her to tell him to park and wait.

I almost did that, but I already had FS twice and taken pics. It was time to depart and let no tip behind.

However, I am glad you choose to be rushed. I hate waiting. LOL

I am pretty sure it wasn't you. You wouldn't have needed directions to her place, as you had already been there. Besides, I saw the dude in question when I got in my car, and unless you have transformed into a short white guy, you were not he.

I resent your calling me a “Internet Sucker.”

I wasn't. But you know the old saying: "if the shoe fits...." I don't do internet dates myself, because I find rates far more reasonable on the K with the same women who advertise on line. So, if I seem acerbic regarding those who do internet dates, tough noogies...LOL.

YMMV – Your Mileage May Very – is not that the whole thing in a nut shell. Timing is everything. It always comes down to either being in the right place at the right time or being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It starts at birth. It ends when you die. In between you either learn to make the best of it or you do not. In any given situation it is up to the people involved to make the best of it or not. No one likes it when things do not go their way - but, “Shit Happens.” When you step in a pile of shit, my suggestion is to just wipe it off. Do not stand around cussing – the shit is not listening. Life is what you make of it, at the time it is happening. Afterward, it is too late.

Like you said, everyone is different. I cuss up a storm when I step in a pile of shit. But that's me. I have been know to have a temper. If I get handed lemons I might just squeeze them in someone's face, cause I don't much care for lemonade, unless the person handing me the lemons throws in some Tequila and salt. Yes, "shit happens," but I don't have to like it, nor do I have to play nice. C'est la vies.

WTF – Forget Rachel, I would have been after a Andrea and Nikki threesome.

Nikki wasn't around and hasn't been for some time. I would do her in a threesome as well.

In fact, if I had the staying powers you have stated you have, I would have double the street wages, added in a tip and challenged them all to a foursome.

To tell you the truth I like the novelty idea of a SW threesome to watch the girls doing it too, and taking pics of that, which is hot. But, I have done civvie threesomes, and, to be honest, I can only give one girl the proper attention she deserves at a time. The exceptions might be one girl playing with herself as I get sucked or fuck the other, having one girl lick or suck my balls or ass while the other sucks on my dick, or having one girl play with the other as I fuck her. This is all very nice as a different experience, but I have done it all, and I actually prefer doing it with civvies. I like the idea of at least trying it with SWs for the photo potential, because civvies are notoriously shy that way.

Help me Jesus, the man has lost his mind. I could be wrong, I only got glimpses of the girl I saw – but, I share Nikki looks a lot like the cute blond, with the bodacious set of tatas, I saw during my first visit. You should have asked about her.

Unless Nikki has returned to the life, changed her hair color, and her name, then she wasn't who you glimpsed. It was probably Amber, who wasn't there the day I dated Andrea. And why would I ask about someone who wasn't even there? I have the digits I need to get in touch and ask anything I like, either just to shoot the shit, or when I happen to be in the neighborhood and am in the mood for a reprise.

I understand about the bad date with Rachel/Kylee.

Yep, I am not really interested in a repeat.

I do not understand about the 45 minute wait for a key.

What's not to understand? The idiot took 45 minutes to get there after he said he would be "right there."

I will never understand how you could forget about Kikki and the location where your date with her took place. If you did not want them, you should have asked for my sake.

Like I explained before, my date with Nikki was last summer and there have been many SWs since. Plus, my understanding is that Nikki is cleaned up and already out of the life. When Boob Luvah asked about Andrea and Rachel and Nikki all being in the same house, something just clicked in my head about that location. I had always walked to it from the K before. This time I approached it from Allegheny by car. It's funny how the same place can look different depending upon how you get there, especially when separated in time, and with different people and with different apartments/rooms.

I stumped. What exactly is the going rates. I have read Andreas rates as posted on,”BackPage.” They are there for all to see. They are clear and precise. What Supereloquent and the rest of you are talking about, I have not the slightest idea. Avenue prices? Ave customs? WTF are you talking about? $40. For a CIMWS car date. $20 for a 5 minute amazing facefuck? I am so confused.

YOU are the one always vaguely or never mentioning prices and not wanting to detail prices, and now you want an explanation, and are detailing the going rates on the K? LOL I did a very long past report explanation of this already, so I will not repeat myself.

Lets clear the air.

1. $30 or less for a car date – more if she is nice and FS is also provided.
2. The same for a inside date at a crummy $10 spot.
3. $40 for a trip to the Carlyle – Half and Half date with no frills.
4. $50 for really good service from a pretty girl in a nice room.
5. A good tip is $5, no more than $10
6. Favorites get more.
7. Pictures are a separate negotiation, but ought not go higher than an additional $20.
If I did pay for pussy (and I don’t). I would consider these fair.

Are they the average Kensington Ave rate? I do not know. I do not know what others pay. I know I pay extra for pictures. I do not know what Supereloquent pays, the average SW, for multiple cup and lengthy dates over an hour. I would suspect that he pays more than $20 for multi pops, blow Jobs to completion and Full service to completion. I do not think anyone pays the rates shown on backpage and other sites advertising the services of escorts, for a date in a car or $10 room. In fact I do not know of anyone, who drives the Kensington avenue stroll, who would pay those high rates posted on Backpage and similar sites to a streetwalker.

This all sounds about right. I don't know why you would say you don't know what I pay for something "long" or "special," or what I consider Ave rates, because I detailed all that in a report not long ago. Maybe you are just not that interested in reading all my stuff. I can't blame you, LOL. Here is the link:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=953281&postcount=1040

Supereloquent, say your piece and then let’s drop it. I just wanted to pull you chain a little. LOL

You knew that I would "say my piece," and I have, and, yes, let's drop it. You pulled on my chain a little, and I pulled back on yours a little. No ill will was or is intended.

Supereloquent

03-28-10, 12:40

Maybe he meant heresy.

Heresy: a belief that rejects the orthodox tenets of a religion.

I consider Tom a friend and I sincerely doubt that he meant either word. I was just playfully pulling on his chain a bit. :D

I have been known to use a word incorrectly now and then myself.

JerryGarcia

03-28-10, 13:52

For clearing the air regarding your machine-gun attack a few days ago--it really didn't bother me, because I knew what I said was that I go to WaWa for gas, food and the bathroom--not to pick up girls.

"......Ashley WAS the pregnant SW barfing in the bathroom one time when I dated Nikki at Idriss's place last summer. And, yes, I DO tend to be verbose, don't I?......"QUOTE from your post

My point wasn't verbosity--it was that you have stated that you are working on a book about your exploits--and I was viewing it as a scene from your own movie about life on the K.

"......I have dated Krista, and I did a photo spread on her. I nicknamed her the "maneater," because she can take your cock halfway down your ball sack, best DT ever!......"QUOTE from your post

I dated Krista many times when she first appeared on the scene--let me tell you, she was smoking hot back then. She is definitely skilled at all phases of pleasuring a man. One time, we tried full service in my car at her suggestion--I had her in the front seat up against my steering wheel--it was fucking awesome, but I ended up breaking my car seat as a result. It was a bit difficult explaining how that happened to my SO.

"......To help clear the air further concerning our recent written shoving match over the Aramingo Wawa: you have been a supporter of me in this forum, and you should not have been a target of my ire in that regard....." QUOTE from your post

Appreciate your ability and willingness to acknowledge this--I did no "shoving"--just stood there and took it. No big deal.

".....I will eventually tell the full stories, and show pics of all my recent "Joe Friday" summaries, because they were all real...."QUOTE from your post

I was just using the "just the facts, ma'am" reference because I was a huge fan of the old Dragnet--to me, it was one of the best comedies ever on TV--trouble is, it wasn't a comedy.

"....His inquiry jogged my memory that I dated Nikki in the very house where I dated Andrea and noticed Rachel...."QUOTE from your post

I ran into Nikki several times early last Summer--she insisted that I come back to the house--I wanted no part of that and was willing to go to a motel--she said she didn't have the time. When I saw her, she looked a bit worn and nowhere as nice as she did in the pics you posted or the ones on BGFE.

Nikki is definitely a beautiful girl, and--as I said, guys were raving about her personality and skills all over the other site. I was impressed with her sweetness and smile--a true gem--hope she has her life back and goes on to be happy and do good things.

".....Andrea IS flexible. She volunteered that pose with her leg stretched high in the air. I would love to do a longer photo session with her in the future. She would have been well served to do so, and be less abrupt, on our recent date. I can be very generous when I get what I want....."QUOTE from your post

Definitely would like to date "Andrea"--but, as stated earlier--I don't want to go to any house--just don't trust a situation where I have so little control. In my early monger days (1991)--I was conned into going back to a house by a SW in Trenton. As we were undressing, her boyfriend and his friend Mr. Glock showed up--needless to say, I was robbed and had to beg for my life. Got the hell out of there real fast, thanking the Lord for allowing my ass to be saved.

Having trouble using the quote function on this site--had to improvise.

CookyJar

03-28-10, 14:20

The base price for an average/good BJ on the K is a Jack, and it would be about .5 for FS. A tip for pics and great service would depend on the good job of the provider and the generosity of the monger. For a long, multiple cup date of several hours, my rule of thumb is to take take these base rates and multiply them by their frequency on the date, "volume discount" that a bit, and add a tip for the pics, the total time spent and the enjoyability of the experience, which takes into account both skill and attitude. For me the damages tend to range between 1.2 and 1.5 for a long multiple cup date with pics. If the experience is really outstanding I might also buy the girl a meal, several packs of cigarettes, etc. afterward.

YOU are the one always vaguely or never mentioning prices and not wanting to detail prices, and now you want an explanation, and are detailing the going rates on the K? LOL

...How much did she cost you?... What did you do with her?... What drugs does she do?..

I do not mention prices because I never pay. I have heard a rumor that buying pussy is against the law. Furthermore, I know for a fact that only thugs and deviants pay hookers for sex.

It irks me every time I see references to, "a avenue rate." (It irks me every time I write in a post that I gave up the standard avenue rate.) The reason I write that I gave up the standard is because, just as sure as god made little green apples, someone is going to ask, “What YOU pay.” What you pay, what I pay, what anyone pays is irrelevant. Half of the guys asking don’t even live in the Philadelphia area.

Rates varies. Your own rates vary from a Hamilton (what ever that is) to 1.5 (what ever that means). I am guessing that $$$, Hamilton and 1.5 are all terms that are meant to fool LE (whatever that is). The only way you can get the kind of dates that I am use to having and the kind of dates I believe you have, with a Hamilton, is if Hamilton is carrying a gun. ROFLMBAS There are as many going rates as there are mongers going. Besides, why are guys so interested in what the next guy is paying. Should not we be more interested in what we are paying? (Oops, I meant to say what ya’ll are paying.) I am old school, I believe in calling a buck a buck, a fin a fin and a yard a yard. LOL If I did ever care to give a young lady a yard fifty for service rendered – that would be my business. (A yard fifty in rupees is what I meant.)

(BTW - Street Steve is a valued member of the Philly Forum. However, there is a better way of getting answers to most of his questions. Go Find her.)

CookyJar

Supereloquent

03-28-10, 15:19

I do not mention prices because I never pay. I have heard a rumor that buying pussy is against the law. Furthermore, I know for a fact that only thugs and deviants pay hookers for sex.

Yeah, I heard the same rumor. I never pay or have paid for sex either. It's illegal, right? ANYthing I might mention or have mentioned in that regard is a "what if," and a "suppose that," all pure speculation and fiction. I am not a thug, but I am a self-admitted deviant. But I still don't pay hookers for sex.

It irks me every time I see references to, "a avenue rate." (It irks me every time I write in a post that I gave up the standard avenue rate.) The reason I write that I gave up the standard is because, just as sure as god made little green apples, someone is going to ask, “What YOU pay.” What you pay, what I pay, what anyone pays is irrelevant. Half of the guys asking don’t even live in the Philadelphia area.

Agreed. It's all absolutely irrelevant.

Rates varies. Your own rates vary from a Hamilton (what ever that is) to 1.5 (what ever that means). I am guessing that $$$, Hamilton and 1.5 are all terms that are meant to fool LE (whatever that is). The only way you can get the kind of dates that I am use to having and the kind of dates I believe you have, with a Hamilton, is if Hamilton is carrying a gun. ROFLMBAS There are as many going rates as there are mongers going. Besides, why are guys so interested in what the next guy is paying. Should not we be more interested in what we are paying? (Oops, I meant to say what ya’ll are paying.) I am old school, I believe in calling a buck a buck, a fin a fin and a yard a yard. LOL If I did ever care to give a young lady a yard fifty for service rendered – that would be my business. (A yard fifty in rupees is what I meant.)

Engaging in the fiction of "rates" is useless since I don't pay for pussy. So, I agree with you, it is my business. However, IF I were to do such a thing, which I never have, I have, on occasion, written some suggested fiction for others to consider.

You have an excellent point about one thing: IF one is going to talk about rates for other thugs to engage in illegal activity, then one is not fooling anyone with cutesy nicks for what is transparently obvious.

(BTW - Street Steve is a valued member of the Philly Forum. However, there is a better way of getting answers to most of his questions. Go Find her.)

Yeppers.

Supereloquent

03-28-10, 15:56

For clearing the air regarding your machine-gun attack a few days ago--it really didn't bother me, because I knew what I said was that I go to WaWa for gas, food and the bathroom--not to pick up girls.

I totally realize what everyone, including you, was really saying. I was just in a mood, and role-playing an ornery, rock-throwing SOB. I realized that it doesn't take much effort to become an asshole in this forum. Maybe that's why so many do it.

My point wasn't verbosity--it was that you have stated that you are working on a book about your exploits--and I was viewing it as a scene from your own movie about life on the K.

Ahhhh, now I understand. Eighty-per cent of communication is non-verbal, so we miss a LOT in here with mere words. I really am writing a book, but is about a lot more than just my exploits on the K. If they make a movie about it, it will be x-rated for sure.

I dated Krista many times when she first appeared on the scene--let me tell you, she was smoking hot back then. She is definitely skilled at all phases of pleasuring a man. One time, we tried full service in my car at her suggestion--I had her in the front seat up against my steering wheel--it was fucking awesome, but I ended up breaking my car seat as a result. It was a bit difficult explaining how that happened to my SO.

Several thoughts come to mind as an excuse, such as an auto accident against a soft pylon.:D That probably wasn't too far from the truth. Krista can be tough on you, LOL.

Appreciate your ability and willingness to acknowledge this--I did no "shoving"--just stood there and took it. No big deal.

You remained quite restrained and a gentleman about it. I could benefit from lessons.

I was just using the "just the facts, ma'am" reference because I was a huge fan of the old Dragnet--to me, it was one of the best comedies ever on TV--trouble is, it wasn't a comedy.

Sometimes the funniest things were not meant to be funny. I am a movie fanatic and a widely acclaimed "worst movie of all time" used to be "Plan Nine from Outer Space." However, this was a case where it was so bad that it was good, and it has become quite the cult classic, and funny as hell, precisely because it was intended to be serious. It is chock-full of bad writing, bad acting, bad editing, inconsistencies, gaffes, and mistakes of all kinds.

I ran into Nikki several times early last Summer--she insisted that I come back to the house--I wanted no part of that and was willing to go to a motel--she said she didn't have the time. When I saw her, she looked a bit worn and nowhere as nice as she did in the pics you posted or the ones on BGFE.

Nikki is definitely a beautiful girl, and--as I said, guys were raving about her personality and skills all over the other site. I was impressed with her sweetness and smile--a true gem--hope she has her life back and goes on to be happy and do good things.

I hear you about being wary of entering a SW's place. It is well to be cautious.

Nikki was gorgeous and a fun date and I wish her well.

Definitely would like to date "Andrea"--but, as stated earlier--I don't want to go to any house--just don't trust a situation where I have so little control. In my early monger days (1991)--I was conned into going back to a house by a SW in Trenton. As we were undressing, her boyfriend and his friend Mr. Glock showed up--needless to say, I was robbed and had to beg for my life. Got the hell out of there real fast, thanking the Lord for allowing my ass to be saved.

We are shaped by our experiences. If that had happened to me I wouldn't go near any SW's house ever again either, considering that I had already used up whatever good luck chit that I ever had.

Having trouble using the quote function on this site--had to improvise.

That happened to me once on here before also, and it further related to a problem of not being able to cut and paste in certain websites. It was a malware problem, so you might want to run a program that scans for and removes malware such as adaware or spybot, or something even more up to date and powerful.

Supereloquent

03-28-10, 19:42

I have noticed “Crazy Nicole” on the Ave for some time now. She is a fixture on the southern end of the stroll. She is certainly animated and full of energy and usually running around, so it is no surprise where her nickname originates.

There was a rumor shared to me by another usually trustworthy SW that Nicole had admitted to a date that she tested positive for HIV. I suppose we face that risk with any SW on the Ave. Many of them use needles, and that can be a huge risk if they share or use dirty needles. And who knows what a severely drug addicted SW is likely to do. But even a rumor has to make a reasonable monger be more wary than usual.

I approached Nicole. I will have to admit that she looked very good. She is tall (5 feet 9 or so), thin and has a pretty face. She is an elongated version of a perfect spinner. She is also very sweet and pleasant, quite the opposite of what I may have been expecting, given her nick.

I was very direct and honest with Nicole about the rumor I had heard. She denied that she was HIV positive. I expected that she would deny it whether she was or not. Who would admit that, even if they were, and had a habit to feed on the K from hooking? Having that information be known might really cut into business, even for someone as good looking as Nicole. She really seemed genuinely hurt by my comment, and said she had heard that from others as well, and was trying to get it corrected. She said she gets tested regularly for all STDs and was negative for everything. I asked if she had any paperwork which would prove that, and she said she did not. I told her that if she could get recent paperwork of her clean bill of health that I would be only happy to verify that I had witnessed it first hand.

I was still concerned that, if she really had been tested and was clean, why she didn’t have any paperwork. I would have thought that would be important to squash the rumor. She said she has many regulars, but I know better than to trust the word of a SW about anything. In a case like this I prefer to see it in writing. But she looked so good that I wanted to at least get her for a photo shoot. So, we went to her place. I already knew where she lived, and that it was safe, so I wasn’t concerned about that. She has a big mirror in her small room, and that made for some very interesting pics. I have to admit that she looks good in the pics and has a pretty face and a hot body.

After the photo session, I had her play with me and get me ready to jerk off in her face. She looked sexy and it didn’t take long for me to get hard. I took over stroking as I spoke filthy dirty to her: “Mmmmmm…. does Daddy’s little cum piggie want a hot squirt on her face?” and she would stick out her tongue and say in a cutesy voice in reply, “Squirt my face Daddy. Feed piggie your hot cum.” We kept it up like that back and forth. She has a perfect voice for dirty talking with just the right intonation and sincerity. I finally busted a hard nut that splattered from her stomach to her hair. I got a few pics but it was so scattered that you can only basically see a few glistening drops here and there.

After a little rest I was ready to go again and held her by her hair with one hand as I jerked off with the other. I had her spread her legs and play with herself and frig herself hard as I got myself ready for a second spray. That was really hot, almost as much fun as having her suck my cock or fuck me.

I know the odds of transmitting HIV orally is very small, and even less so when protected, but, hey, I am just a conservative guy. I would also definitely do Nicole in as many positions as possible, if she can demonstrate to my satisfaction that the HIV rumor is not true, because she is one hot little piece of ass, and a lot sweeter and more together than I would have guessed. Plus she is a terrific dirty talker and I love that. I know that not fucking her or allowing her to suck my cock may sound silly because literally any SW on the stroll could be HIV positive and there would be little way most of us would know. But when a rumor or any piece of information like that is staring you in the face, my preference is to err on the side of caution. I hope I can eliminate that suspicion in the future.

Ratings? Face and Body: 5 stars; Attitude: 5 stars; Overall: 5 stars for what it was; I bet this sexy minx would make a great suck and fuck and I look forward to sampling that when I feel comfortable that the risk is worth taking. YMMV

Supereloquent

03-28-10, 19:44

Cute, nice bod and a sexy poser!

Supereloquent

03-28-10, 19:47

Fingering herself, playing with me, close-ups, with cum sprayed on her face and body.

Boob Luvah

03-28-10, 21:35

So, what you are telling us Boob Luvah is that Nikki is back in that location again, where Andrea and Rachel live?I'm not sure if Nikki is back but I would say that Andrea and Kylie are the best people to tell that. :-) They also share the location with another girl but I forgot what the name is.

Boob Luvah

03-28-10, 21:36

Fingering herself, playing with me, close-ups, with cum sprayed on her face and body.As always, GREAT report Super E!

Fbtom

03-28-10, 23:00

I hope you either didn't mean what you wrote, or you didn't understand the meaning of "hearsay," and perhaps meant "detail" instead?

Hearsay is information gathered by one person from another concerning some event, condition, or thing of which the first person had no direct experience.

That is why hearsay testimony is inadmissible in court. Only what a person experiences or hears first hand is admissible.

I was referring to your writing as hearsay, and I do know the meaning. Just as some refer to their stories as a dream/fantasy. Both being inadmissible. Since we don't pay for any acts, the wording doesn't really matter. Just know that I do like the details of the stories.

Supereloquent

03-29-10, 04:29

I was referring to your writing as hearsay, and I do know the meaning. Just as some refer to their stories as a dream/fantasy. Both being inadmissible. Since we don't pay for any acts, the wording doesn't really matter. Just know that I do like the details of the stories.

Ahhhhhhh....as in tongue-in-cheek or with sardonism. This is the problem with mere words. We have no intonation or facial expression or body language to get the full meaning.

Supereloquent

03-29-10, 04:32

I'm not sure if Nikki is back but I would say that Andrea and Kylie are the best people to tell that. :-) They also share the location with another girl but I forgot what the name is.

I am pretty sure her name is Amber, but I didn't get to see or meet her.....yet.

Freaklikdat

03-29-10, 13:18

I am pretty sure her name is Amber, but I didn't get to see or meet her.....yet.This is amber the other roomate http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90500
she's a little slimmer now that she has a pimp. If her service hasn't changed then I highly recommend amber

Supereloquent

03-30-10, 00:03

Is this the same Katie (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=822425&postcount=184)?

I had a bad experience with her today. Picked her up at K & Pacific about 9:30 A.M. She immediately wanted to have oral contact. I told her that I was on my way to see another girl, but just wanted to get her number. She then insisted on giving me head before I was to see the other girl saying that she is the best at it. Aggressively going after my pants while I'm driving. I just wanted to talk, but figured, what the hell, why not. She takes me to a parking lot and goes at it with a cbj. Then she asks for some money. Since I don't pay for acts and she volunteered to entertain me, I say, "I'll take you back to where I picked you up". Since I'm a nice guy, I give her a small token anyways. This is where it gets interesting. I go to drop her off and she holds the door open without getting out, demanding cash or she won't get out and will call the cops. At this point, knowing that this was a scam, I called her bluff. I got my phone out to take her picture and say to her sarcastically, "Now I can call the cops and show them the girl I forced to do things with" At first she tries to prevent me from taking her pic, but then says, "I don't care if you get my picture". Then I started to slowly drive away, with her still holding the door open. Seeing that I wasn't giving in, she angrily swipes at my dash damaging an item that I had mounted, finally getting out, sans cash. What a nut job! I agree with SuperE's comment... "She is the only date I ever had to be completely avoided."

Yes, that is bad Katie. This biatch is to be completely avoided! She is a ripoff artist and an extortionist. The deal she tried to pull on you: holding the car door open and threatening to call the cops, was the exact same thing she tried to pull on me a year and a half ago. This must be her continual MO. It must be working on some dumb mongers (Pedey seems like someone who might surely fall for it) if she is still doing it. It doesn't appear that she has tried to pull that with the wrong monger, or she just might get the shit beat out of her. If she already has crossed the wrong monger, then she either didn't get a strong enough disincentive not to try it again, doesn't learn her lessons very well, or thinks it is worth the risk to keep trying it. My guess is that her extortion ploy is succeeding, and that's why she continues to do it.

The best disincentive of all is not to pick up this skank. She usually hangs in the vicinity of the 7-11 area. Tom, you found her at Pacific, which is farther than she normally ranges from Ontario. Whenever I see her I give her a big smile and wave like I am going to pick her up, and then I flip her the bird, just to remind her that there are some of us who know what she is all about.

StormRanger

03-30-10, 01:25

I dated Nichole today. Found her at a corner near Lehigh. I've seen her there before, but she was gone before I could circle around. We went to her place, the same as in Super's photos. Lot's of old computers in that little room LOL. Nichole is a pretty girl. She's tall and thin as opposed to the little 'spinner' girls that I always feel like I'm going to crush.

Now, I really wish that I'd read Super's recent report on her http://www.Usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php? P=965627&postcount=1180 I would have been more careful and covered up for the BJ. Hopefully the rumors about her are false.

Overall her skills are good. She didn't tire during the BJ, and I finished up with her doggie. She was on the bed and I stood behind her. It was cool doing that in front of that huge mirror because I could see all the action from a different angle.

So a good date, now kind of soured by some doubt. I always clean myself up with anti-bacterial wipes and hand sanitizer, so hopefully that will be enough. If anyone can verify her STD test paperwork is good please let us all know. I'd like to date her again.

Supereloquent

03-30-10, 07:43

This is amber the other roomate http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90500
she's a little slimmer now that she has a pimp. If her service hasn't changed then I highly recommend amber

Thanks for the info and the pic. This is the way it's supposed to work on this forum as an exchange of USEFUL information. All you rick-throwers take notes.

Supereloquent

03-30-10, 08:22

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CookyJar

03-30-10, 10:02

This is amber the other roomate http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90500
she's a little slimmer now that she has a pimp. If her service hasn't changed then I highly recommend amber

That very well could have been the girl I saw during my visit with Rachel. Did she have a nice bottom?

Nikki, Amber or whom ever, I would have tried for a three way. (During my visit with Rachel, the blonde was occupied. I did ask Rachel if the blonde might be enticed to join us, later. Maybe was the reply I got.)

CookyJar

Supereloquent

03-30-10, 11:18

That very well could have been the girl I saw during my visit with Rachel. Did she have a nice bottom?

Nikki, Amber or whom ever, I would have tried for a three way. (During my visit with Rachel, the blonde was occupied. I did ask Rachel if the blonde might be enticed to join us, later. Maybe was the reply I got.)

Cooky, you keep telling me you would have gone for a threesome, as if that was an option for me or even a desire at the time I dated Andrea...LOL.

Beside the fact that she already seemed to be otherwise occupied, and the upstairs was off limits, Rachel was the only other girl there at the time, not Amber or Nikki, and I had absolutely NO interest in Rachel either one-on-one or in a threesome.

Based upon Freak's comments, report and pic, and your observation that Amber had a nice bottom, I might at least give Amber a try in the future either one-on-one or in a threesome with Andrea.

Supereloquent

03-30-10, 11:22

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Supereloquent

03-30-10, 20:01

Most SWs are drug addicts that are so desperate that they are willing to do "anything" to get money for drugs. They don't reason and think like normal people. They are constantly in a desperate need of a fix. That is all they think about, how to get the next fix. They don't think with their head, they think with their crack pipe or syringe. They risk going to jail and getting beaten up every time they go on a date, especially with a stranger.

We all know that SWs aren't choir girls, but they aren't absolutely and universally as you described. The characteristics of some do not apply to most or all. Many are certainly drug addicted, but many are also good dates and provide good service; I know this first hand. Otherwise, no intelligent mongers would bother being on the Ave. You can't tar them all with the same bad brush as if they were all the same. Anyone who has had much experience on the K knows better.

All SWs have been brutally raped. All SWs have gone to jail. All SWs know someone who got raped, tortured, mutilated and killed. Many SWs have narrowly escaped that fate themselves by jumping out of moving cars, sometimes while bound and/or naked.

ALL is strong word and I know no such facts. Some may have experienced these things. I don't know any that have told me they were brutally raped, although such may have happened, and we know of some publicized serial rapists and murderers who have targeted SWs. Many SWs have gone to jail (not all). I have heard quite a few stories about SWs getting beaten up or robbed; that seems pretty common. I never heard of any jumping out of moving cars, let alone bound and/or naked. Maybe you just know and/or date different SWs than I do. I am not saying that a SW's life on the streets is easy. But your words are somewhat exaggerated and overboard if stretched to one size fits all.

I learned the above from the many SWs that I have come to know and from my personal experience with drug addiction.

As I said, we must know different SWs. I would be curious if any from whom you heard this stuff were SWs I have ever reported on as being good dates. Anything is possible, but I would find that surprising.

Having said that, some are worse than others but you can't trust any of them. Notwithstanding, some actually enjoy the sex and some fake it quite good. This is what we are looking for. Others don't think past their next fix and do whatever they have to, to get it. Once they think that they are going to get the money for a fix, they are mentally incapable of letting it go.

I don't think any reasonable monger "trusts" a SW. However, separating the good from the bad and the outright dangerous are points of information for which we look here. My personal experience is that most are good, a few are bad, and a very few are dangerous. Bad Katie is one in the dangerous category. But for you to say they are all alike is plain wrong and misleading.

This happens to me when I pick up a girl and then, after looking at her close up and talking to her, I am no longer interested. They usually won't get out of the car unless I give them money. If I don't they cause quite a commotion. One girl threw a bottle at my car and broke a side window even after I gave her $20 to get out. Once a girl took my car keys and threw them in tall grass. Once a girl broke my rear-view mirror right off of windshield.

I usually keep 5 or 10 dollars in a seperate pocket to give to girls that I want to get rid of. It usually works, but not always, sometimes they demand more. The best way to get rid of them is to take them to a police station or to stop a passing cop car. Usually they will get out when they see that you are serious. However, sometimes they won't and I actually get out and talk to the cop. This is risky because the cop can arrest us both, but sometimes I don't care because I am so mad. Whatever you do, don't go to a cop if you already had sex, they will arrest you. I tell the cop the truth. I say that the girl jumped in my car and propositioned me and when I refused, she wouldn't get out unless I gave her money. The cop asks what I was doing in this neighborhood and I tell him what he already knows. I was looking at the girls. The cop usually gives me a lecture about AIDS and set-ups and then let me and the girl go. If I did not make a deal to exchange money for sex, there is no crime. Then I have to go home or to another track.

In many years of mongering I have never experienced any of the problems you mentioned. Perhaps my street radar works pretty well or maybe I have just been cautious or lucky. ONCE I was threatened with extortion, and a potentially dangerous situation, and that was with bad Katie. I dispatched that situation with a minimum of hassle, without physical harm to me or my vehicle and without surrendering as much as a nickel to get rid of the problem.

But for you to imply that these situations are just something we have to live with, as if it they are simply unavoidable and inevitable and part of the territory, and not even worth identifying and reporting? I am just not buying it.

Supereloquent

03-30-10, 20:30

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Acro782

03-31-10, 10:59

Yes, let's get back to mongering rather than wild goose chases to the suburbs carrying drugs because of a CL ad from some anonymous chickie. Sheesh! And you are standing behind Pedey on this one? You apparently don't care to pick your battles very wisely. What he did was boneheaded and you are even more boneheaded for taking his back on it.

Who rattled your chain, anyway? Are you Pedey's nursemaid? Does he suck your tit? I bet he does. Maybe he sucks something else. Maybe you guys take turns...LOL. However, that would make sense: the malcontent nursing the imbecile, once again. This isn't your fight, dummie, or did someone piss in your Cheerios this morning? You seem to have an uncontrollable urge to put your 2 cents in where it was not requested, just to spout off more obvious green-eyed drivel.

Take your own advice ass-wipe. Try posting something which has useful information for a change.In the course of less than a week, you've thrust yourself in the middle of multiple threads and annoyed and pissed off multiple people by presuming to give input and advise when instead it was plain that it was another attempt to grandstand and bring attention to yourself. When someone then presents an argument for which you don't have an intelligent reply, you then begin the same tired ad hominem attacks about their intelligence, supposed lack of contribution to the forum, or their sexual orientation. It's funny that you and Mad Monger have this need to question other monger's sexuality. Might it perhaps be an effort to overcompensate for something that you haven't come to terms with? And of all things you then try to throw back at them, you decide to focus on their spelling? WTF?

Pedey and I have exchanged notes/numbers on a number of SWs, and so he's got credibility with me. If you want to post reports, exchange info, numbers, etc. That's what I thought we were here to do. Instead, you have to put in your 2 cents on other threads in a way that then devolves an otherwise interesting topic into a flame war. After a while, it just gets frigging annoying to continuously read your same drama, over and over and over again. If you're so insecure that you always have to blame it on other's supposed jealousy, that's your loss. Most of us here have known about the stroll and this forum for a while before you had started posting, and it's existed for many years before that. Only a fool would think that a single poster is somehow so important that our mongering experience would have changed significantly with our without them.

My guess is you'll never learn.

AC

Supereloquent

03-31-10, 23:06

If you want to post reports, exchange info, numbers, etc. That's what I thought we were here to do.You should pay closer attention. I am not looking for an "attaboy," but the following are just the facts in reply to your admonition that I should supply reports and exchange information. In the past year and a half I have posted MANY more than half of all the reports regarding new SWs on the K, upon whom there were no previous reports. I have also posted many more than half the pics of SWs on the K (the only reason this isn't even higher is that Cooky is and always has been a substantial pic contributor; throw in Freak and a few others and you basically have 95 plus % of the pic sharing happening on the Philly board). In the past 18 months I have posted MORE than 4 times as many pics as were posted by everyone else in the ENTIRE Philly Streetwalker Photo Thread during the past 3 and a half years!

If that isn't "posting (SW) reports" and "exchanging (SW) information," then I don't know what is.

WHY do I do this? Sometimes I seriously wonder, when I get gratuitous rocks thrown at me, and encounter guys like you with bugs up their butts about me for who knows what reason. But, as sure as God made little green apples, a malcontent complainer like you will want to have his rock-throwing cake and eat it too. Either you are bitching about the "lack" of my informational reporting (which is ludicrous on its face), or about the supposed motivations behind it. The bottom line is that you just want to carp and criticize. You have absolutely no interest in furthering the purposes of this forum. That is the sad truth of your ongoing and fault-finding yammering.

You accuse me of always posting "diatribes?" That is not my typical MO by a long shot, as opposed to you, where it appears to be your preference, especially with regard to me. You threw the first rock, and continued to throw them. I was merely responding. You just don't seem to ever want to stop. C'est la vie. With regard to the recent exchange over the Aramingo Wawa, which you referenced?: Anyone with half a brain who has read my stuff can see that was a tongue-in-cheek, uncharacteristic rock throwing role play on my part. I was pretending to be guys like you and Pedey to demonstrate how easy it was to be a rock-throwing asshole rather than contributing useful intel. Get it? Even those involved have realized that now. They were and are supporters of mine, by and large, and everything is cool. Only you seem intent on fanning the flames of a dead fire, or using that as "proof" that I am somehow a typical flamer on here. But, then again, you would.

I obviously post a great deal of useful information, both in the form of SW reports and pics. However, to what extent have YOU posted SW reports and exchanged useful information in here? There are damn few of your "reports" in this forum, and most of the ones that are here are tirades against me, which have no beneficial intel whatsoever. I am not the one who needs a lecture from you regarding the nature, amount and value of my contributions to this forum; that is an instruction which might best be reversed.

Supereloquent

04-01-10, 11:13

This title sounds like something one may have written as an essay in 5th grade, doesn't it? However, if I had written this in the 5th grade, there would have been quite a few eyebrows raised, and probably much sterner reactions than that.

I took the day off yesterday and went to AC early in the morning to relax and do some gambling. I only and always play one game, and that is craps: the game with the best odds for the gambler. I could explain this in detail, but it is beside the point of my story. I played all morning and was up a lot: about 10 grand. I have been up a lot more than that, but 10 grand in your pocket that you didn’t already have to start the day is a nice feeling (on the down side, I limit my losses and just quit, walk on the boardwalk, watch the ocean, have a nice meal, see a show, whatever; because luck seems to run in streaks both good and bad; I let the good luck run, and cut the bad luck off at some limit; there is always tomorrow; this is a gambling strategy which has served me well over the years). I was tempted to keep playing with 'their' money, but it takes some discipline to quit when you are ahead, just like it does when you are behind. Otherwise you always leave a loser.

I was driving up the AC expressway, and then I-76, and soon the towers of the Walt Whitman were in view. A day which had started gloomy and chilly was now warm and sunny. I was in a very good mood, considering both my good luck at the craps table, and the sunny, balmy weather, and just then I had an inspiration: to take a detour up Broadway. I have mongered for a long time but never on Broadway in Camden. It wasn't like I didn't know about it. It was just a combination of things which had conspired against my going there over the years: 1. Convenience: Yes, it is just across the bridge, but the K is much closer to me. So the K has been a matter of simple convenience. 2. Satisfaction: The K is like going to your favorite restaurant, even when you know there are many good restaurants around. There is plenty of variety on the menu. You know the food is good, and what you like, and what to avoid. The K is even better than your favorite restaurant because the menu is constantly changing to add new and delicious treats to your liking. So why go elsewhere? 3. The Unknown: I have chuckled to myself when a monger says the K is a place too scary to be. I am not saying the K is a safe place, or that you don't need to be aware and keep up your guard. But I have never had a dangerous incident or anything close to it. Maybe I am comfortable on the K because I have been here a LOT, and I feel like I am a fish in water. I feel at home on the Ave to some degree. However, I am also aware, just like a fish, that there are sharks about, and I need to keep my eyes open. Just because I have never been bitten or devoured doesn't mean the potential is not there. Regarding the unknown and Broadway?: I had never been there but I was picturing a scene out of the South Bronx or South Chicago, where even armed police would feel unsafe in daylight. I also pictured mostly skank ho druggies, for whom trolling would not be worth the effort or the risk. I also pictured a web of entrapment: LE decoys, unmarked vice and a high and visible and hassling LE presence (especially for some white dude with PA plates). Maybe I hit Broadway on an unusual day, but most of my assumptions appeared to have been unfounded.

Broadway is a wide street, with few encroaching sight impediments on either side, and you can see very clearly on both sides for a long way ahead and behind. It is quite unlike the narrow and crowded K in that regard. It isn't the bombed out and dangerous gang hell that I pictured. It is a typically run-down inner-city main street, no worse than many and much better than I had anticipated. I was expecting to see unmarked LE on my ass as soon as I started driving up Broadway, but that never happened. Unlike the K, there is very little traffic, and an out-of-state plate scoping out the area would be easy to spot if one were so inclined. I didn't see any evidence of that except for one situation I suspected of being a sting, which I will mention later.

Some other nice features of Broadway: 1. The vicinity isn’t riddled with triangular and impossible one-way streets like the K, where it can take you forever to circle the block for a second look or a pick-up. 2. There seem to be many good secluded areas for an uninterrupted car date, for those of you who prefer that; I do every now and then. 3. There are some good and safer possibilities for eating establishments on the northern end of the stroll close to the Ben Franklin. 4. The “going rate” (assuming I were going to pay for pussy, which I do not; this information is for those of you illegal thugs who do) appears to “start” lower and be more negotiable in Camden than on the K.

The best surprise of all was the selection of good looking honeys on Broadway. There were a few skank hos that looked like they had just rolled out of a dumpster, and I wouldn’t have picked up if they paid ME triple the going rate. But that seemed to be the exception and not the rule. I found 2 good dates, and I saw a number of other good looking SWs worth trying as well. I took my dates for multiple-cup, long indoor sessions at a nearby notel. It was a lot closer to Broadway than the Neshaminy Inn or the airport motels or even the Carlyle are to the K. Reports and pics will be forthcoming.

I mentioned one possible sting operation I thought I saw on Broadway. I could be all wet, but I tend to avoid even the whiff of a potential problem. There was a BSW at about mid-point in the stroll, pretty and well dressed, wearing a nice skirt and black stockings, sitting on a stoop with her legs crossed and showing some thigh, and making obvious gestures to passing cars. It seemed out of place, and too good to be true. Also, there was a black SUV nearby, with heavy window tinting, containing 2 guys, parked halfway down the street. The whole thing just looked too suspicious. So, I smiled at her, but passed on the opportunity. Maybe I was being silly, but, hey, I am a cautious guy.

I feel like I have discovered a new restaurant that serves meals just as good, if not better and cheaper, than my old favorite. I am sure I will be spending a lot more time sampling the menu on the other side of the river.

Freaklikdat

04-01-10, 12:27

I feel like I have discovered a new restaurant that serves meals just as good, if not better and cheaper, than my old favorite. I am sure I will be spending a lot more time sampling the menu on the other side of the river.Looking forward to those pics & reviews SuperE, I've been a camden lover since last summer:) Lots of good fines over there. Don't be a stranger to the South jersey forum cause some mongers over there give great intel on the girls of broadway & nearby motels

Boob Luvah

04-01-10, 14:20

This is amber the other roomate http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90500
she's a little slimmer now that she has a pimp. If her service hasn't changed then I highly recommend amberMichelle is part of the group. I don't think she lives there but she can bring her dates. Just like Amber, Michelle lost weight the last time I spoted her in K.

http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=91785

Mad Monger

04-01-10, 14:39

Michelle is part of the group. I don't think she lives there but she can bring her dates. Just like Amber, Michelle lost weight the last time I spoted her in K.

http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=91785

This is the same Michelle that I once reported on, who ripped me off to cop before a date, and about whom Street Steve reported as being a thief and trying to fire up a stem in his car:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=935821&postcount=2566

Apparently she can be both good and bad, so be forewarned about the possible bad.

Supereloquent

04-01-10, 16:33

Looking forward to those pics & reviews SuperE, I've been a camden lover since last summer:) Lots of good fines over there. Don't be a stranger to the South jersey forum cause some mongers over there give great intel on the girls of broadway & nearby motelsI feel like a kid who has gone into the same candy store for years and years, and now he discovers there was a great bakery right down the block that makes all kinds of other goodies he enjoys. I feel somewhat in a quandary over posting the reports and pics on Camden encounters. I have my own thread here in the Philly forum, but there is a South Jersey forum as well. I suppose that technically I should post Camden reports and pics in the South Jersey forum.

Supereloquent

04-01-10, 16:43

I found Megan on the southern end of the stroll. She was as nervous as a cat on the proverbial hot tin roof after she got in. She was deathly afraid I was undercover vice. She asked if I would like to take her for a drink. I guess she felt that would not get her into trouble. When I wasn’t interested in going for a “drink,” she wanted to do the touchy-feely thing, and I told her that it was fine if she wanted to feel my hog, but it meant absolutely nothing if I were really vice. I told her that If I were really undercover LE that I could lie to her, touch her, have her touch me, proposition her, whatever, and , if she agreed in any way she would still be arrested. This discussion, of course, did nothing to make her feel less nervous, LOL. Maybe I just deviantly wanted to play with her, like a cat does with a mouse he has caught.

As long as she was feeling me up, I had her flash her tits and let me have a nice long grab as well. Why not? She had really nice, firm tits too with soft light-brown nipples. She said she was new to this and had absolutely no idea where to go and park. She said she had just moved here from NJ and was living with a “friend’ just off the K. Uh huh. When she mentioned the street I was pretty sure it was Bishop’s place and I ticked off a number of her “house buddies” who I knew. She felt a lot more comfortable after that, but still seemed a little nervous.

If I actually paid for pussy, her request was higher than one would expect for the K. Maybe she really is as new as she says, and thinks her mouth and cu*nt are more gold plated than the rest, or maybe she just has no idea about pricing reality on the K. I firmly instructed her of the usual way of the world, not that it mattered much because, as you all well know, I don’t pay for it. :D

I don’t ever fuck in my car, but a BJ isn’t out of the question, and I have a few very safe and secluded places now, where I can feel comfortable and relaxed for a daytime tryst without fear of rude interruption. Megan may claim being innocent and new to this, but she got right into it when I opened my fly, and showed her the target. She couldn’t DT but she had the most interesting BBBJ technique of twisting her head around my cock, and sloppily sucking on it like a human washing machine. Normally this rapid kind of sucking action is not to my liking, but her approach felt and sounded and looked very nice indeed. I didn’t even mind that this seemed to be her one and only speed and skill. She had hoisted up her top and bra and, as she sucked, I reached underneath and kneaded her soft titties and nipples. I popped a quick nut in about 3 or 4 minutes and held her head on it and told her to lick it all clean. She seemed desperate to get off my cock and spit, and that made my holding her head there all the hotter. When I finally let her head go she gasped and almost choked as she lunged for the window to spit like it was poison, LOL. I found the whole thing very self-satisfying, especially since I knew I would soon be ready for round two, and she would be thinking about the finale all the way through again to the squirt and clean-up.

In the beginning I had asked about taking some pics and she looked wide-eyed at me, as if I was Dracula, and she was making the sign of the cross. On the way back I explained how I had taken pics of other girls and posted them on a website that other mongers read, and that it was like free advertising if you got a good review. So she willingly posed for some pics on the way when I was stopped at various traffic lights. One was pretty dark because my flash didn’t fire. I let her preview all of them for her approval. She wrinkled up her nose at them, but reluctantly agreed to let them be posted; I guess women are never satisfied with their pics. I wish I could have gotten some shots of her flashing her tits or her pussy because she had a nice thin body, but maybe next time.

Ratings? Face: 4 ½ stars (she kept protesting that she wasn’t wearing any make-up, except for lip gloss, and her hair looked a mess, but I assured her that the readers here weren’t looking for a gal freshly prepared for her shoot in Glamour Magazine; she has nice facial features, a classically pretty Italian); Body: 4 ½ stars (I didn’t see all of it but she has a good body shape and ass and great looking tits for a thin girl; she might just have 5 star body potential); BJ: 5 stars (not DT but very unique, and enjoyably sloppy and animated technique); Fucking: N/A (but very doable; maybe on a future indoor date); Attitude: 4 stars (not a bad attitude; but I didn’t quite fully appreciate the “I am worth more than the others” ’tude); Overall; 5 star BBBJCIMSP car date; Repeatable? Yes ( definitely for a BJ and to try for indoor FS). YMMV

Permanent Wood

04-01-10, 21:37

I like this one; http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=96974

Supereloquent

04-02-10, 00:44

I like this one; http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=96974

One doesn't need to have a toothy grin to make an appealing facial pose. The most eye-catching poses can often be when subtly expressing a thought or emotion. I can actually take credit for directing the pose you liked. I asked her to clear her mind, look into the camera and just think, "fuck me," LOL

Supereloquent

04-02-10, 08:19

Nice report and pics Freak. It reminds me that I should carry a Halloween mask for those who are camera shy and don't want their faces recognizable in here. However, I don't understand how CJ can literally charm the pants off of them for a photo shoot, and then they get camera shy for future shoots, and/or don't want to show their faces, like Nikki did. WTF? I have run into a few like this. I never mention to them that I already saw their pics here, but what is the deal? I figure that making them aware of the fact that their photos are in here already as leverage to entice them to do another shoot is bad SW photojournalism protocol. I guess I will just have to go to CJ charm school. Any openings next semester, Cooky?

We certainly have our fair share of Nikkis and Nicoles on the Ave! I wrote a reflective, somewhat cerebral report about SW and girls' names in general not too long ago, not that many possibly care.

This girl knows how to suck a dick and my dick was DEEP-SEEDED/DEEP-SEATED all up in Nikkis mouth.

"Deep-seated" would correctly apply one of the dictionary meanings as "firmly (great word in this case) established."

"Deep-seeded?:" It isn't listed in Merriam-Webster or OED2 (Complete). According to all the sources I read, this hyphenated "word" is classic "hearsay" (you might like that one, Tom): it "sounds" like the correct word, and even has some semblance of explanation, but the usage is just plain wrong, according to every respected work on the correct use of English.

Supereloquent

04-02-10, 10:12

This will be a brief report because I have reported previously on Colleen this past fall, including pics:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=894460&postcount=673

Colleen is a somewhat cute big titty MILF with A-Plus cock sucking skills, and a willingness to do any type of dirty talking one might desire. She is almost always around the southern end of the stroll, and I have dated her a number of times. She is a terrific release whenever I need a quick few pops in the car. I guarantee she will give you a memorable 5 star plus, unhurried BBBJCIMSW, or several, if you are "up" to it.

Colleen used to be in the escort biz (or so she says), but is a realist about life on the K. She knows there are many younger and prettier and thinner SWs, and she is willing to be quite "competitive" regarding donations, not that I have to worry about such things. :D However, she would be well worth a premium based upon her quality of service alone.

When we got down to it this time she hoisted up her top and bra for me to fondle those big tits as she sucked, looked up at me with a big knowing smile, and asked, "What am I this time? Your dirty filthy wh*ore? Your nasty fuck sl*ut? Your bad little girl who needs to be taught a cock-sucking lesson?" And then a big grin, " Or Daddy's naughty cum piggie?" You have to love a SW who knows what floats your boat!

I spent a very fun time with Colleen, and enjoyed 3 unhurried cups, with plenty of hot, dirty talk in between to get me motivated for the next round. YMMV

Freaklikdat

04-02-10, 12:04

Nice report and pics Freak. It reminds me that I should carry a Halloween mask for those who are camera shy and don't want their faces recognizable in here.Thanks SuperE, that mask has really come in handy because I'll get a NO when I ask for pics/vid but when I tell them I have a mask to "hide" their identity they'll usually agree. I even got Kate(that little B*tch IMHO) doing BBBJ on video with that mask

However, I don't understand how CJ can literally charm the pants off of them for a photo shoot, and then they get camera shy for future shoots, and/or don't want to show their faces, like Nikki did. WTF? I have run into a few like this. I never mention to them that I already saw their pics here, but what is the deal? I figure that making them aware of the fact that their photos are in here already as leverage to entice them to do another shoot is bad SW photojournalism protocol. I guess I will just have to go to CJ charm school. Any openings next semester, Cooky?I don't know how he does it either. I remember for months trying to get pics/vid of Kate(that little B*tch IMHO) then CJ Charms her into showing the goods

We certainly have our fair share of Nikkis and Nicoles on the Ave! I wrote a reflective, somewhat cerebral report about SW and girls' names in general not too long ago, not that many possibly care.Yes I do remember reading it. The next time I run into another nikki/nicole I'm going to tell her to please use a nickname because it's getting to damn confusing.

Supereloquent

04-02-10, 18:58

Nobody gives a fuck...

For someone who doesn't "give a fuck," you are sure "giving a fuck"....LOL

...about your trip to AC, and how much money you won, and that you been up more than 10 grand

Well aren't you about as obviously envious as it gets? I see your point, though. You want me to do as you say and not as you do. I can't mention a trip to AC, but you can give us mind-bending detail about a boneheaded wild goose chase to the suburbs to give drugs to some chickie you made a connection with through CL? Nobody "gave a fuck" about that either, but it was one of the stupidest things I ever heard. You never even saw the chick, and you were probably lucky you never did, because that was a narc sting if ever I saw one. The only next best thing for you is that it was someone scamming you. Either way, how much dumber could one be to go for such an evident con job?

Report on the pussy

I DO and lots of it, a lot more than just about everyone in the Philly forum, and an incalculably greater amount than YOU do!

Who after winning 10 grand gambling would then decide to cruise Broadway in Camden?

Apparently you don't bank anywhere? Is that a foreign concept to you? Who takes 10 Gs in cash ANYwhere?: Not I, for one. That is unlike SOME people who take 420 and white powder to an anonymous chickie advertising on line...LOL.

Cooky, Freak, Somebody please chime in on this one. I think we should all set up a sting, It will be to find Super and get him off the streets

Threatening another member of this forum is considered a VERY serious offense of forum rules, let alone to publicly solicit some sort of conspiracy to do so. I suggest you cease and desist from this IMMEDIATELY and avoid even a HINT of such action in the future.

Supereloquent

04-02-10, 23:03

From a classic Ella Fitzgerald lyric: “ Into each life some rain must fall.” I suppose this applies to SW experiences as well.

I was given Chrissy’s number by another monger. He volunteered the information to me in a PM and I don’t blame him for a bad referral. His experience with her was obviously different. YMMV always applies.

I called Chrissy one day just to try someone new. Either the connection was bad or she sounded like she had a mouthful of marbles, but I could barely make out what she was saying. We made an appointment for 30 minutes from then and I got directions from her. It is a classic stereotype, but you know what it is like to get usual directions from a female. She will direct you by landmarks and nearby stores, etc., whereas a male will usually tell you the route or street, the direction, the mileage, the intersection, etc. I am not a stupid person but the “directions” she provided got me nowhere near where she was, and I had to re-call her to get the specific nearest intersection, instead of all the landmark mumbo-jumbo. It turns out she had been directing me up the right street, but to the wrong place on the street. So what else is new?

When I finally arrived at the location where she was waiting for me, I suggested an indoor date. Why I did that is anyone’s guess, because my street radar was telling me that this one was going to be a bust. It would have been much smarter to try her out first as a car date. Chalk one up for the little head. Sooner or later I will learn my lesson. Chrissy proceeded to tell me that her expected donation would be 2X for an indoor date, as opposed to X for a car date. Why this premium was warranted is beyond me. Maybe her mouth and cu*nt are worth more indoors, at least in her own opinion. I was getting a bad feeling, and I was ready to just cut my losses before they even started, take her back to where I had picked her up, and go back to the K. However, I told her flat out that X would be the starting number with a tip if service was outstanding. So, she could either decide to earn an incentive the good old fashioned American way or go back empty handed.

She agreed to X with an incentive, and she suggested a notel, which I knew to be 3 times the cost of another nearby notel with which I was quite familiar. Either she didn’t know the notels in her own vicinity very well, or didn’t give a shit, because it was my money we were spending, or maybe both. In any event, we went with my notel choice. On the drive, Chrissy was quiet and not very warm and friendly. Everything in my big head intuition was screaming to deep-six this whole thing, but hope springs eternal for the little head, as we all know.

We arrived at the room and I started to take some pics. Even though we had agreed to this as part of the deal, she soon got antsy about it and just wanted to get down to business. She started to suck my cock and it was pretty mediocre, even though she had bragged how good she was. I took a few pics of that, but she very quickly told me no more of those. I guess she really wasn’t clued in to the concept of earning an incentive. I was so glad it was on that basis, because this gal was turning out to be ho-hum average in so many ways.

On the way to the notel she was telling me that she walks the streets of that area (very northern Frankford Ave) and there was very little competition except for some skanky ho druggies. I guess her marketing sense was intact in that context, but she wouldn’t hold a candle to most of the SWs on the K, either in terms of looks or talent, no matter what she thinks.

Her face was rather average as was her body. She is young but not what one would call extremely pretty and her belly is unattractively paunchy. The funny thing is that she thought she was hot. She obviously has no basis for comparison. Her sucking was wooden as was her fucking. She couldn’t wait to finish the BJ so she could move right along to the main event, such as it was. It was like fucking the dead; she was totally unresponsive. I have enjoyed better hand job fantasies in the shower.

I usually am interested in multiple-cups with a SW date but this was the SW version of Coyote Ugly. If my arm would have been stuck underneath her, I would have chewed it off to get the hell out of there. Needless to say, she didn’t earn any incentives.

Ratings? Face: 3 stars (and I am being generous); Body; 3 stars (more generosity); BJ: 2 ½ stars (the only thing worse might have been if she scraped her teeth on me); Fucking: 2 ½ stars (the only positive thing is that I busted a nut; but now I know what necrophilia is like); Attitude: 2 ½ stars (not totally bad but just barely above it); Overall: 2 ½ stars (sub-par all the way); Repeatable? Not even at ¼ X. YMMV

Supereloquent

04-03-10, 11:53

There is no secret to it. I try to be honest and straight forward. I always tell them what I plan to do with their pictures. Most of them have already heard about me before I pick them up.I use the same approach, but I never tell them who I am. Maybe THAT's the secret! Or maybe not; who knows?; maybe that would make them even more adamantly against pics, LOL. Maybe it wouldn't make a particle bit of difference because I am not nearly the legend that Cooky is, and deserves to be. Nonetheless, Cooky, I concede that your ability to charm them is most certainly better than mine, although I have been no slouch in getting many of them to agree.

There is one other thing. I treat the girl just like what they are – people. They are no better or worse than me; that is the way I treat all women.I totally agree with you there. I have received many compliments from SW photo subjects that I made them feel at ease and comfortable, not only for photos, but for anything else we did. I have also received many compliments on my "photographic direction," such as it is. I let the girls preview their pics and virtually all feel that the angles, poses, etc. flatter them, by and large, even the spread, fingering and BJ shots. Neither photography, nor my sexual desires nor my penchant for dirty talk have anything to do with degrading another human being, although anything can be interpreted any way one chooses to interpret it. For me, it is all about hot eroticism. I try to treat others as I would like to think others would treat me in like circumstances (yes, and that includes hot photography or filthy dirty talking or anything else we voluntarily either or both choose to do).

During my second visit with Andrea, she said that she liked the fact that I did not make her feel like a ***** when I took her pictures. Her saying that kind of took me back; I’d never given it that much thought.I have been told that a lot, including by Andrea, who was having a lot of fun posing, sucking and fucking, even if she rushed it at the end after 2 cups, LOL. Maybe such remarks about me are true and maybe they aren't. Maybe it's what some SWs tell you to make you feel good; after all, they are paid (Oops, I meant to say that SOME are, I am one of the lucky ones who gets it for free :D) to do that physically, so why not psychologically? I hadn't and haven't ever given that much thought either. I am just the way I am.

Kate denied me access the first time we meant. She had a big ole red zit on her cheek. LOLSWs have vanity, just as most women do (and men too). I would have to say that having a big ugly zit or a facial injury or a bad hair day are primary reasons a SW often denies a photo session. She wants to look her best.

Fbtom

04-03-10, 13:26

Tonsil Hockey

04-03-10, 13:54

For someone who doesn't "give a fuck, " you are sure "giving a fuck". LOL

Well aren't you about as obviously envious as it gets? I see your point, though. You want me to do as you say and not as you do. I can't mention a trip to AC, but you can give us mind-bending detail about a boneheaded wild goose chase to the suburbs to give drugs to some chickie you made a connection with through CL? Nobody "gave a fuck" about that either, but it was one of the stupidest things I ever heard. You never even saw the chick, and you were probably lucky you never did, because that was a narc sting if ever I saw one. The only next best thing for you is that it was someone scamming you. Either way, how much dumber could one be to go for such an evident con job?

I DO and lots of it, a lot more than just about everyone in the Philly forum, and an incalculably greater amount than YOU do!

Apparently you don't bank anywhere? Is that a foreign concept to you? Who takes 10 Gs in cash ANYwhere?: Not I, for one. That is unlike SOME people who take 420 and white powder to an anonymous chickie advertising on line. LOL.

Threatening another member of this forum is considered a VERY serious offense of forum rules, let alone to publicly solicit some sort of conspiracy to do so. I suggest you cease and desist from this IMMEDIATELY and avoid even a HINT of such action in the future.I've been visiting this forum for quite some time now, and of all of those who post, I've found SuperEloquent and Cooky Jar among those posting primo material, with a few close seconds. Maybe it's because I am from the "Dear Penthouse" generation, but I enjoy a well-scripted description of events, and SuperE sure does provide that. Furthermore, I would believe that someone so imaginative with his elaborations within this forum would most likely be quite imaginative "in the field", yielding the most interesting of adventures.

It is a fact that after login, I immediately visit "Supereloquent's Reports", and am almost always enthralled with his exploits.

Although I still can't figure out Super's "five cups" in two hours ability (mine would have either fallen off after three, or zipped my fly back up, reached into my pocket for the cell and dialed 911).

Kudos, and appreciation for a fine job!

Jhawk

04-03-10, 15:13

SuperE, Either you must have been very generous or your rating system of 2-1/2 to 5 needs to be improved. A date this poor by description makes one wonder who would ever get a lower value?

Regardless, thanks for the good report on knowing another to avoid!

I always assumed that 2 1/2 was the crossover point. 2 1/2 not good but not actually bad. While below that is actually just bad, and gets worse as the rating gets lower. While above that is on the good side and gets better as the rating goes up.

Supereloquent

04-03-10, 15:14

SuperE, Either you must have been very generous or your rating system of 2-1/2 to 5 needs to be improved. A date this poor by description makes one wonder who would ever get a lower value?

Regardless, thanks for the good report on knowing another to avoid!

I suppose my "rating system" requires further elaboration. To me a "1" is just plain DANGEROUS or potentially harmful/threatening, or to-be avoided-at-all-costs. Only one SW date has ever received the ignominy of that rating and that was bad Katie.

A "2" would be "bad." For a BJ that could mean anything from scraping her teeth on my cock, to barely sucking the tip, to hurrying or wanting me to hurry a LOT, or asking me every minute if I am "ready to cum yet," to perhaps gagging and throwing up all over me and grossing me out. For fucking it could mean anything from having a coochie that smelled worse than a garbage can (which would mean we wouldn't fuck at all without a hot shower and a douche), BO (same solution or no dice) or a cu*nt that was so dry from drugs that it was impenetrable, or the continued and unabated and aggravating hurry-up, or "are you ready to cum yet?" thing. For attitude it could mean anything from a downright nasty disposition, to an extremely demanding and totally inflexible attitude towards the donation. I have actually never encountered any SWs with straight-up ratings of "2" in any category or overall. Maybe that is because I either had a cleansing remedy available in a private room or there was no action taking place. Alternatively, I have avoided the dope sick, had pretty good street radar concerning a pick-up in the first place, and let the few bad decisions I made go before allowing them to suck or fuck me.

Two and a half would appear to have been the rock bottom in my rating system for a SW to make it to sucking and fucking me. She would get that for just "showing up" so to speak, assuming there were no further deductions for the things I mentioned above. A two and a half would be way below average. The rest she needs to earn. A three would be mediocre and below average, a three and a half would be average, a 4 would be above average, a 4 and a half would be way above average and a 5 would be outstanding.

Maybe the words are more descriptive than the numbers, so you bring up a good point, Tom. If you as a regular reader of my posts and a friend and supporter are confused about my rating system then others might be confused as well. I never really gave much thought to what my numbers mean to ME, let alone what they might mean to others until you raised the issue. I will have to give my rating system some serious reflection.

Fbtom

04-03-10, 16:15

Supereloquent

04-03-10, 17:54

It does seem that the range from avg. to fantastic is very close together though. I'm thinking that anything that is bad can simply be rated as bad. Why elaborate on a scale how bad a bad date is, other than dangerous per your description? Your giving the bad the same range that a good date can have.

Some people have the very mistaken impression that I am extremely stubborn, and won't listen to anyone. I hope this decision disproves such a claim, because I absolutely and totally agree with you. My number system is more cumbersome and confusing than it needs to be.

Your worded rating system makes sense.

I didn't really give it much thought until your post caused me to look at it more carefully. From now on I will use words rather than numbers for my rating system. It is more descriptive and less confusing.

Now that I understand it better, it is not a real issue for me.

Well it still became one for ME! LOL So I decided to do something about it.

Besides, kind of late in the game for your system to revamp it now, right? Are you going to evaluate the past three plus years all over again? Or just come up with a new system from a certain point forward?

It's never too late to do something smarter. I am revamping my rating system. I can't and won't bother to do it backward, but I certainly can do it forward, and that is what I plan to do. Thanks for inspiring me to do just that.

Regardless, keep up the great sw photos and detailed reports!

I plan to do that. For those of you interested in my newest exploits across the river, I have posted the first of several reports, with pics, of my adventures on Broadway. You can read them in the South Jersey "General Reports" thread. My first report, with pics, from Broadway, reflects my "new and improved' rating system, LOL.

CookyJar

04-03-10, 21:41

Cooky, you keep telling me you would have gone for a threesome, as if that was an option for me or even a desire at the time I dated Andrea...LOL.
… Rachel was the only other girl there at the time, not Amber or Nikki, and I had absolutely NO interest in Rachel either one-on-one or in a threesome.

I am me and you are you. I said that in my earlier post. Maybe it is just me, but, once my dick gets hard I am able to forgive and forget. As long as the pussy is clean, looks good and is available; I am going to get it. It is the power my little head has over my big head.

“Good Times,” one on one, threesomes or whatever; are more about timing than anything else. I am thinking, you were there for 45 minute, what did you do while you were waiting for the world to change? Personally, I would have been trying to get some pussy or head from one of the three pretty available girls. The point I am trying to make is that I would have at least tried. Besides, Rachel owed you.

…the upstairs was off limits,…

By the way, what did you do while you were waiting; if you did not go upstairs? If the upstairs was not available and you were locked out of the downstairs room, where did you wait – in your car on the dinky street? Just for the record, IMHO, waiting 45 minutes is a no, no. Waiting like that would be way to dangerous even for my blood and I am hood rated. There is no way I would have sat around twiddling my thumbs for 45 minutes.

Here is what I would have done.

CookyJar

Supereloquent

04-03-10, 22:45

I am me and you are you.Yep Mark that one in red!

I said that in my earlier post. Maybe it is just me, but, once my dick gets hard I am able to forgive and forget. As long as the pussy is clean, looks good and is available; I am going to get it. It is the power my little head has over my big head.My dick always forgives. But my big head gets a majority vote with past bad experiences.

It wasn't just a matter of "forgiveness" with Rachel. Andrea went up and had a few words with her, and when I asked Andrea about the 2 of us (Andrea and I) going upstairs, that wasn't going to happen. I honestly wasn't curious enough to get into the details of why not, and I had enough bad previous experiences with Rachel to not want to try one more regardless if that was possible, which it wasn't.

"Good Times, " one on one, threesomes or whatever; are more about timing than anything else. I am thinking, you were there for 45 minute, what did you do while you were waiting for the world to change? Personally, I would have been trying to get some pussy or head from one of the three pretty available girls. The point I am trying to make is that I would have at least tried. Besides, Rachel owed you.I was totally uninterested in Rachel, and I doubt that she remembered that she "owed' me a damn thing. Her head is half in the tank anyway from whatever she is on, and my glimpse of her at the top of the stairs confirmed that she looked like shit even more than my usual past experiences with her.

By the way, what did you do while you were waiting; if you did not go upstairs? If the upstairs was not available and you were locked out of the downstairs room, where did you wait – in your car on the dinky street? Just for the record, IMHO, waiting 45 minutes is a no, no. Waiting like that would be way to dangerous even for my blood and I am hood rated. There is no way I would have sat around twiddling my thumbs for 45 minutes.I waited for a few minutes in the hallway, and had some conversation with Andrea, but I told Andrea I would continue the wait in my car.

I may be a white dude, and look harmless, and was raised in a small rural town, but where I grew up the rites of passage were as tough as anywhere. I may not be "hood rated, " but if you didn't learn to fight and be willing to defend yourself with fists and knife in my home town then you just might wind up in the hospital or worse. We had gangs as tough as on many urban streets, and the rivalries were intense.

We were only 2 blocks off the K but I am very well aware of the dangers in that entire vicinity, regardless whether I was sitting in my car, the hallway or even in her apartment. I never mentioned this before but I have a permit to carry a concealed firearm, and I am a fair shot. I have fortunately never had to use it to defend myself, but, trust me, I would not hesitate.

I had my gun on me. It is in a concealed holster sewn into my jacket with a cloth flap. I would have felt just as safe in the hallway as in my car, but I just preferred the idea of being able to have a wide range of vision to anticipate any dubious activity. Plus, I was unimpeded where I was parked, and could easily have roared the hell out of there if I saw anything even remotely suspicious, like an approaching gang or even more than one person eyeballing me, splitting around my car, drawing a weapon, whatever. Even if one has a cure, prevention is always better.

Here is what I would have done.I would probably not have done "Lux" either. Bad dates always seem to change their names as if such will wipe away the bad rep. So Kylie to Rachel, Alexus to Lux/Nicole, whatever. There are plenty of fish in the sea called the K and, good looking or not, when a SW has demonstrated not once, not twice, but three times that she is a bad date for me? It's time to go fishing for something else. You can let the little head forgive all you want. There is a reason we have reviews in here, and for me it isn't to give girls FOURTH chances! You do your thing with the girls you want to do and I will do my thing with the girls I want to do. Like you said: we are different. Your pics and report of Andrea and Lux look hot, and I am glad you had a great time with them. YMMV always applies. However, Rachel/Kylie and Alexus/Lux/Nicole are no longer on my menu.