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Canuck Guy
01-03-09, 13:15
Greetings everyone,
I am, by definition, not a newbie, technically, but from the pro's that post on here, I am not a pro either. I have been with a total of 10 ladies all from, yours truly, CL, backpage, ********. Etc etc. And I have become victim of a trend. Whenever I begin reading a report post and I see the terms T14TT (Took one for the team), I die a little inside!
Please gentlemen, this industry was made for us, lets show these fuckin' bitches who pays their bills! I have read rules of engagement when interacting with our girls so let's give them our rules. More like, rules we'll follow, fuck them' if they don't. A couple of pre-requisites. These are rules we men will follow, they suit us, these are our rules.
1. No outcalls!
We don't want you to know where we are, we don't want you to have an idea of where we are, Most importantly, we don't want you to know how to fucking find us.
What the fuck does anonimity mean to you, our names are Tom, Dick, and Harry. That's all you need to know! You can have an outcall if it's your last day at the hotel, but seeing as the girls won't show up at any hotel nowadays, well, too bad.
2. We do not leave voicemails.
You say not to unblock our numbers, fine, we won't block it, we won't leave a voicemail as well. You see, while the phone was in our pocket, we could have "accidentally" called you, "victimless mistake"! If you don't answer, we'll "accidentally" dial after 5 mins then after 30 and that's it without being too creepy!
3. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
A) I will not spend time with you if you don't look like you photos.
B) I will not spend time with you if you look like you've been run over by a truck! If your tummy looks like it once was used as tarmac for parking SUV's, I'm gonna have to pass, that's just gross.
C) I will not spend time with you if you look like a skank! We can get that over on Bragg st. There are plenty of SW out there sweethearts. When we search for you girls we want a NORMAL LOOKING person, unless otherwise specified. Please wear something so we can have something to undress!
4. We're allowed to be late, you're not!
Screw equality buillshit, I don't give a shit if I sound doublestandard, you shouldn't talk about that. We called you in advance, what the fuck were you doing besides sitting in a hotel room? Your job is to clean up as fast and as thoroughly as possible in between calls.
5. Discuss everything before paying!
Oh gosh, I can't stress this enough guys. I have lost $360 on two bitches because they waited for me the stupid douche to pay first, only to tell me they don't offer FS! WTF, why would I want to pay you $$ for your Fuckin' TIME? Don't you think we have friends? Screw all that bullshit that people who see you are weirdos! Guys, I have read thorough statistics that suggest 90% of people who these girls interact with are normal, normal like you and me. Weirdos can't hold a job long enough to blow that kinda stash on your sorry ass bitches!
6. Discuss everything before paying!
Just in case you didn't hear it the first time. After the preliminary LE check (you touch me, I touch you, we BS each other as if we like each other) ask her details about her ad and what it includes.
I will go as far as to provide examples of three questions that you shouldn't miss.
Always ask:
I) "In your ad it said (GFE? Greek? [insert ad refference here]) do you know what ([insert ad refference here]) means? To me it means ([insert graphic detail here]) do you do that?
II) "So, what exactly are your rules? "
III) "Is it your time of the month? " No BS, it happenned to me before!
Please people, the first few questions must not be asked in a playfull manner. To these bitches, they don't mean business, business is Target or McDonalds. You can buy a vaccum cleaner or even eat a sandwich and ask for your money back. These girls are out to RIP you off, and yes, by RIP I mean rest in peace because you won't do shit! What are you gonna do, call the cops, hahahahahaha, take her to small claims court, please stop, these girls have dicks and they're bigger than ours, and they have balls of brass!
7. Most important rule of all: Walk!
Yes my friends, I know this is hard to hear, but the rule is not that simple at all. But I will try to break it down with some hard math.
Let's say that: X = (Yes, I know her picture is real and you've seen her before and you want some more) = Reference used in context.
Rule number 1: If she does only out calls: Walk, say you'll call her later or if she gets a location, she can call you then if she wants.
Rule number 2. If she does not answer: Walk. See X for any context and rule 2 for reference on what to do.
Rule number 3: If she's not "Dang' I'd hit that" material: Walk!
Rule number 4: If she's late: Drive off. If she tries to call you back, just don't answer, or say your a cop. It'll work.
Rule number 5: If you don't like any of her rules (see 4 for reference) or
Rule number 6: She doesn't agree to any of your's (rules, that is, pay attention dumbass) (see 5 for reference). WALK
Rule number 7: If anything sounds fishy, e. g.
"Let me have the money now so I can pay for the hotel." or
"I have to be paid first before discussing anything." or
"We usually meet in the parking lot." or
"I'll tell you where to park, what color is your car?" or
"I'm GFE 'friendly'."
WALK!
Granted, these rules are not stellar. But I want them to evolve, there is no reason why she would'nt comply to all of them verbally, then turn around and say she changed her mind! Then post here which is the last rule. Report all your nasty incidents. So we know who's a liar, who's not, and who's a thief, and who's not. Please stop paying for mediocre service, it breaks my heart!
And guys, if your not gonna do this for us. Remember, every time a John is RIPped off, an Angel get's AIDS! Please men, do it for the angels.
Pussylicker2
01-10-09, 02:09
I have to agree with the main premiss, which is to WALK if you don't like it. It's amazing how many change their minds when they see this. However, there are some excellent escorts who don't have a place to work out of. I've never dealt with a driver, but I know some excellent escorts can't drive. So I arrange to pick them up, take them to my motel, and let them arrange transsportation away. I usually do this with girls who work at strip clubs. If the girl has her own place, there's a good chance her man is in the next room the whole time, how does that make you feel?
Whether Newark Hotels allow girl [ friend visiting ur room or they have rules and restrictions?
I have to agree with the main premiss, which is to WALK if you don't like it. It's amazing how many change their minds when they see this. However, there are some excellent escorts who don't have a place to work out of. I've never dealt with a driver, but I know some excellent escorts can't drive. So I arrange to pick them up, take them to my motel, and let them arrange transsportation away. I usually do this with girls who work at strip clubs. If the girl has her own place, there's a good chance her man is in the next room the whole time, how does that make you feel?Walk if you don't like it is absolutely correct. Although I just had someone (UTR, so not a traditional escort, no driver, her home etc,) lay a guilt trip on me for something she caused herself. Once there is payment involved, customer service principle commences. Do not forget this.
Foer every John ripped off there are like 5 escorts beaten or raped or ripped off. You guys want cheap get a street walker. If not then you need to pay
More so you get more. The girls in this business arent there to be belittled or mistreated and they certainly do not have to abide by your rules. On the contraray providers have the right to set the rules. Do outcalls and get paid what they want to get paid!
Greetings everyone,
I am, by definition, not a newbie, technically, but from the pro's that post on here, I am not a pro either. I have been with a total of 10 ladies all from, yours truly, CL, backpage, . Etc etc. And I have become victim of a trend. Whenever I begin reading a report post and I see the terms T14TT (Took one for the team) , I die a little inside!
Please gentlemen, this industry was made for us, lets show these fuckin' bitches who pays their bills! I have read rules of engagement when interacting with our girls so let's give them our rules. More like, rules we'll follow, fuck them' if they don't. A couple of pre-requisites. These are rules we men will follow, they suit us, these are our rules.
1. No outcalls!
We don't want you to know where we are, we don't want you to have an idea of where we are, Most importantly, we don't want you to know how to fucking find us.
What the fuck does anonimity mean to you, our names are Tom, Dick, and Harry. That's all you need to know! You can have an outcall if it's your last day at the hotel, but seeing as the girls won't show up at any hotel nowadays, well, too bad.
2. We do not leave voicemails.
You say not to unblock our numbers, fine, we won't block it, we won't leave a voicemail as well. You see, while the phone was in our pocket, we could have "accidentally" called you,"victimless mistake"! If you don't answer, we'll "accidentally" dial after 5 mins then after 30 and that's it without being too creepy!
3. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
A) I will not spend time with you if you don't look like you photos.
B) I will not spend time with you if you look like you've been run over by a truck! If your tummy looks like it once was used as tarmac for parking SUV's, I'm going to have to pass, that's just gross.
C) I will not spend time with you if you look like a skank! We can get that over on Bragg st. There are plenty of SW out there sweethearts. When we search for you girls we want a NORMAL LOOKING person, unless otherwise specified. Please wear something so we can have something to undress!
4. We're allowed to be late, you're not!
Screw equality buillshit, I don't give a shit if I sound doublestandard, you shouldn't talk about that. We called you in advance, what the fuck were you doing besides sitting in a hotel room? Your job is to clean up as fast and as thoroughly as possible in between calls.
5. Discuss everything before paying!
Oh gosh, I can't stress this enough guys. I have lost $360 on two bitches because they waited for me the stupid douche to pay first, only to tell me they don't offer FS! WTF, why would I want to pay you $$ for your Fuckin' TIME? Don't you think we have friends? Screw all that bullshit that people who see you are weirdos! Guys, I have read thorough statistics that suggest 90% of people who these girls interact with are normal, normal like you and me. Weirdos can't hold a job long enough to blow that kinda stash on your sorry ass bitches!
6. Discuss everything before paying!
Just in case you didn't hear it the first time. After the preliminary LE check (you touch me, I touch you, we BS each other as if we like each other) ask her details about her ad and what it includes.
I will go as far as to provide examples of three questions that you shouldn't miss.
Always ask:
I)"In your ad it said (GFE? Greek? [insert ad refference here]) do you know what ([insert ad refference here]) means? To me it means ([insert graphic detail here]) do you do that?
II)"So, what exactly are your rules?"
III)"Is it your time of the month?" No BS, it happenned to me before!
Please people, the first few questions must not be asked in a playfull manner. To these bitches, they don't mean business, business is Target or McDonalds. You can buy a vaccum cleaner or even eat a sandwich and ask for your money back. These girls are out to RIP you off, and yes, by RIP I mean rest in peace because you won't do shit! What are you going to do, call the cops, hahahahahaha, take her to small claims court, please stop, these girls have dicks and they're bigger than ours, and they have balls of brass!
7. Most important rule of all: Walk!
Yes my friends, I know this is hard to hear, but the rule is not that simple at all. But I will try to break it down with some hard math.
Let's say that: X = (Yes, I know her picture is real and you've seen her before and you want some more) = Reference used in context.
Rule number 1: If she does only out calls: Walk, say you'll call her later or if she gets a location, she can call you then if she wants.
Rule number 2. If she does not answer: Walk. See X for any context and rule 2 for reference on what to do.
Rule number 3: If she's not "Dang' I'd hit that" material: Walk!
Rule number 4: If she's late: Drive off. If she tries to call you back, just don't answer, or say your a cop. It'll work.
Rule number 5: If you don't like any of her rules (see 4 for reference) or
Rule number 6: She doesn't agree to any of your's (rules, that is, pay attention dumbass) (see 5 for reference). WALK.
Rule number 7: If anything sounds fishy, e. G.
"Let me have the money now so I can pay for the hotel." or.
"I have to be paid first before discussing anything." or.
"We usually meet in the parking lot." or.
"I'll tell you where to park, what color is your car?" or.
"I'm GFE 'friendly'."
WALK!
Granted, these rules are not stellar. But I want them to evolve, there is no reason why she would'nt comply to all of them verbally, then turn around and say she changed her mind! Then post here which is the last rule. Report all your nasty incidents. So we know who's a liar, who's not, and who's a thief, and who's not. Please stop paying for mediocre service, it breaks my heart!
And guys, if your not going to do this for us. Remember, every time a John is RIPped off, an Angel get's AIDS! Please men, do it for the angels.
Greetings everyone,
I am, by definition, not a newbie, technically, but from the pro's that post on here, I am not a pro either. I have been with a total of 10 ladies all from, yours truly, CL, backpage, . Etc etc. And I have become victim of a trend. Whenever I begin reading a report post and I see the terms T14TT (Took one for the team) , I die a little inside!
Please gentlemen, this industry was made for us, lets show these fuckin' bitches who pays their bills! I have read rules of engagement when interacting with our girls so let's give them our rules. More like, rules we'll follow, fuck them' if they don't. A couple of pre-requisites. These are rules we men will follow, they suit us, these are our rules.
1. No outcalls!
We don't want you to know where we are, we don't want you to have an idea of where we are, Most importantly, we don't want you to know how to fucking find us.
What the fuck does anonimity mean to you, our names are Tom, Dick, and Harry. That's all you need to know! You can have an outcall if it's your last day at the hotel, but seeing as the girls won't show up at any hotel nowadays, well, too bad.
2. We do not leave voicemails.
You say not to unblock our numbers, fine, we won't block it, we won't leave a voicemail as well. You see, while the phone was in our pocket, we could have "accidentally" called you,"victimless mistake"! If you don't answer, we'll "accidentally" dial after 5 mins then after 30 and that's it without being too creepy!
3. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
A) I will not spend time with you if you don't look like you photos.
B) I will not spend time with you if you look like you've been run over by a truck! If your tummy looks like it once was used as tarmac for parking SUV's, I'm going to have to pass, that's just gross.
C) I will not spend time with you if you look like a skank! We can get that over on Bragg st. There are plenty of SW out there sweethearts. When we search for you girls we want a NORMAL LOOKING person, unless otherwise specified. Please wear something so we can have something to undress!
4. We're allowed to be late, you're not!
Screw equality buillshit, I don't give a shit if I sound doublestandard, you shouldn't talk about that. We called you in advance, what the fuck were you doing besides sitting in a hotel room? Your job is to clean up as fast and as thoroughly as possible in between calls.
5. Discuss everything before paying!
Oh gosh, I can't stress this enough guys. I have lost $360 on two bitches because they waited for me the stupid douche to pay first, only to tell me they don't offer FS! WTF, why would I want to pay you $$ for your Fuckin' TIME? Don't you think we have friends? Screw all that bullshit that people who see you are weirdos! Guys, I have read thorough statistics that suggest 90% of people who these girls interact with are normal, normal like you and me. Weirdos can't hold a job long enough to blow that kinda stash on your sorry ass bitches!
6. Discuss everything before paying!
Just in case you didn't hear it the first time. After the preliminary LE check (you touch me, I touch you, we BS each other as if we like each other) ask her details about her ad and what it includes.
I will go as far as to provide examples of three questions that you shouldn't miss.
Always ask:
I)"In your ad it said (GFE? Greek? [insert ad refference here]) do you know what ([insert ad refference here]) means? To me it means ([insert graphic detail here]) do you do that?
II)"So, what exactly are your rules?"
III)"Is it your time of the month?" No BS, it happenned to me before!
Please people, the first few questions must not be asked in a playfull manner. To these bitches, they don't mean business, business is Target or McDonalds. You can buy a vaccum cleaner or even eat a sandwich and ask for your money back. These girls are out to RIP you off, and yes, by RIP I mean rest in peace because you won't do shit! What are you going to do, call the cops, hahahahahaha, take her to small claims court, please stop, these girls have dicks and they're bigger than ours, and they have balls of brass!
7. Most important rule of all: Walk!
Yes my friends, I know this is hard to hear, but the rule is not that simple at all. But I will try to break it down with some hard math.
Let's say that: X = (Yes, I know her picture is real and you've seen her before and you want some more) = Reference used in context.
Rule number 1: If she does only out calls: Walk, say you'll call her later or if she gets a location, she can call you then if she wants.
Rule number 2. If she does not answer: Walk. See X for any context and rule 2 for reference on what to do.
Rule number 3: If she's not "Dang' I'd hit that" material: Walk!
Rule number 4: If she's late: Drive off. If she tries to call you back, just don't answer, or say your a cop. It'll work.
Rule number 5: If you don't like any of her rules (see 4 for reference) or
Rule number 6: She doesn't agree to any of your's (rules, that is, pay attention dumbass) (see 5 for reference). WALK.
Rule number 7: If anything sounds fishy, e. G.
"Let me have the money now so I can pay for the hotel." or.
"I have to be paid first before discussing anything." or.
"We usually meet in the parking lot." or.
"I'll tell you where to park, what color is your car?" or.
"I'm GFE 'friendly'."
WALK!
Granted, these rules are not stellar. But I want them to evolve, there is no reason why she would'nt comply to all of them verbally, then turn around and say she changed her mind! Then post here which is the last rule. Report all your nasty incidents. So we know who's a liar, who's not, and who's a thief, and who's not. Please stop paying for mediocre service, it breaks my heart!
And guys, if your not going to do this for us. Remember, every time a John is RIPped off, an Angel get's AIDS! Please men, do it for the angels.You got one thing right: you have the option to walk out anytime. But for someone who claims to not be an amateur, you sure have much to learn. Many of your rules are not only laughable, but also downright careless, even dangerous. Allow me to address some of the fallacies inherent within your rules:
1. Outcalls offer several advantages over incalls. For one, outcalls allow you to better control the situation and not have to worry so much about unwanted encounters with pimps or other undesirables. Second, most sting operations occur at incalls because it allows LE to target a large number of mongers without having to coordinate at multiple locations. So in regards to LE, incalls are advantageous to providers while outcalls are advantageous to mongers. I prefer to set-up an outcall with a new provider, and if I repeat then I will feel comfortable doing incalls.
2. Your rule about voicemails makes absolutely no sense. If I call a woman and leave her my name and phone number and ask her to call me back, there is no harm in that. Are you afraid of having your voice recorded? That can easily be done even if the provider picks up. Or perhaps you're afraid because of your rule number 5.
5 & 6. There's a reason you don't discuss what you will or will not do before payment, or even after for that matter, and why you just get into it if you're smart. Because doing so and then paying is SOLICITATION. Read up on the law if you don't believe me. And as for doing the so-called LE check? I hope you realize that an undercover police officer CAN touch, and at times will, to a certain degree in order to make their case. This would NOT constitute entrapment. Asking the questions you lay out under rule 6 is guaranteed only to lead to an arrest and an easy conviction if in fact you do find yourself in the middle of a sting.
"There is no reason why she wouldn't comply to them verbally." Actually, anyone with a head on their shoulders (mongers and providers alike) would be wise to steer clear of your rules. I think most would agree.
Foer every John ripped off there are like 5 escorts beaten or raped or ripped off. You guys want cheap get a street walker. If not then you need to pay
More so you get more. The girls in this business arent there to be belittled or mistreated and they certainly do not have to abide by your rules. On the contraray providers have the right to set the rules. Do outcalls and get paid what they want to get paid!Got to agree with this. Escorts are providing a service; they aren't there to be insulted, harassed or demeaned. In fact, you shouldn't be doing that to women in general. Treat them as human beings or go home. And yes, there certainly are some escorts out there who will rip you off, just as there are car salesmen, realtors, lawyers and just about any other career that can (and will) rip you off if you let them get away with it. The trick is to become better at spotting the people who are dishonest and avoiding them. You can (and should) walk away whenever you feel you are getting into a dangerous or uncomfortable situation.
And another thing, remember that these women are working a dangerous job. Escorts, SWs and other women like this have been raped, or even murdered. None of us want that. Equally important, we don't want our favorite ladies to get arrested either. They have just as much to fear from the cops as we do. So we should be a little more tolerant and understanding. That way we'll both get what we want. It's a delicate dance but if you do it right you won't have any problems.
Cephlapod Love
04-24-16, 11:34
I agree. The stated rules have some things I would avoid.
The best advice I can give is what I assembled into "Rules for BP Mongering" that Admin was kind enough to create a thread for. A lot of that advice is applicable to "escort" dating.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?13919-My-Suggestions.-Rules-For-BackPage
Hope this helps! Comments and new approaches always welcome!
Never Ever pay upfront. If she wants the money upfront I walk out. No discussion or talking it over. I could care less how great her reviews are or how gorgeous she is. Once you pay upfront you'll either get ripped off (Cash and' Dash) or you get shorted on time. I learned my lesson the first time I paid upfront. I haven't made this mistake twice.
Member #5624
06-07-16, 08:33
Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere. Feel free to point me to the appropriate thread. Do you guys think that doing favors for providers is likely to improve their attitude towards you or make it worse? I'm especially referring to a first time dream. If a provider has been thoroughly professional in her interactions with me leading up, on my way to see her I'll often ask her if I can bring her anything. The answer is often cigarettes or coffee or food. Sometimes it's drugs. In either case, she reveals something about herself, sometimes a lot more than you were probably hoping to learn. If she asks for something it shows me that she's real and she isn't likely to be a clock watcher because she is obviously willing to have me arrive a little later than planned, now that I need to make a detour and do a pick up for her. On the other hand, she might think you're a push over. What do you guys think?
I had "heard" the tip of asking if they needed anything, while on the way, and have done it a few times.
One time oj, a couple of others smokes. I can't really say it's been "noted" as much appreciated as I would have hoped. (and perhaps it may have just been for the wrong ones).
There HAVE been a couple of times where they were super nice and I had wished I HAD asked, but didn't. All in all, I'd say it's proobably not a bad idea, I may continue the practice.
Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere. Feel free to point me to the appropriate thread. Do you guys think that doing favors for providers is likely to improve their attitude towards you or make it worse? I'm especially referring to a first time dream. If a provider has been thoroughly professional in her interactions with me leading up, on my way to see her I'll often ask her if I can bring her anything. The answer is often cigarettes or coffee or food. Sometimes it's drugs. In either case, she reveals something about herself, sometimes a lot more than you were probably hoping to learn. If she asks for something it shows me that she's real and she isn't likely to be a clock watcher because she is obviously willing to have me arrive a little later than planned, now that I need to make a detour and do a pick up for her. On the other hand, she might think you're a push over. What do you guys think?
Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere. Feel free to point me to the appropriate thread. Do you guys think that doing favors for providers is likely to improve their attitude towards you or make it worse? I'm especially referring to a first time dream. If a provider has been thoroughly professional in her interactions with me leading up, on my way to see her I'll often ask her if I can bring her anything. The answer is often cigarettes or coffee or food. Sometimes it's drugs. In either case, she reveals something about herself, sometimes a lot more than you were probably hoping to learn. If she asks for something it shows me that she's real and she isn't likely to be a clock watcher because she is obviously willing to have me arrive a little later than planned, now that I need to make a detour and do a pick up for her. On the other hand, she might think you're a push over. What do you guys think?I know this is old but in my opinion asking if a provider needs something while on your way to see her is doing extra work for no reason. You're not seeing a provider to get her to like you, you're seeing a provider to get your rocks off and be able to leave with no attachments.
Have I been asked for cigs or a McDonald's meal on the way to see a provider? Yes. But the ones that did that who were cool and weren't trying to take advantage of me told me to buy what they needed then deduct that amount from donation.
Some of these girls are just total bums who mooch off anybody they can. One provider I got a little bit too close and realized she was milking me dry. She would ask me to bring her the donation PLUS she would beg me to buy her cigarettes (11 $) PLUS buy her 10 dollars worth of coffee and junk food from Wawa PLUS drive her around town burning up my gas! If anything the donation I gave her she should have used that to buy her own stuff.
Stopped doing that and stopped even seeing the gal altogether when I realized I was constantly being asked for additional items like it was expected but when it was time for me to be taken care of it was too few and far in between, she would often come up short, or she had excuses for why she didn't feel like doing certain things.
As far as providing drugs to a provider I wouldn't even think of doing something like that. I don't use drugs and prefer not to see a provider who uses. I believe now you can be charged for the death of someone if they bought drugs from you.
Beaver Pleaser
09-06-20, 13:49
I have been out of the game for a while and from reading the board, it looks like many things have changed. So I have some questions I hope respected seniors can reply to. PM if you can.
1. Providers expect a photo from you before meeting, either face pic or otherwise. Do you comply and send one? Do you ignore it and move on? I would never send an actual, but wonder what works.
2. I am very leery of discussing anything specific by phone or text, including what she provides or donations because it could be a trap. But then how do you find out what she provides (services) or expected donation, etc?
3. Donations. Some claim never hand it over until the end. Some providers demand it up front. What is a good way to handle this so you don't get ripped off?
Bottom line. What are some good rules for playing the game safe, both to avoid cops and a shady rip off artist?
This site has some really good turtorials about the hobby. I am still a noob and have read them but still make mistakes. It sounds like you are on the right track with your questions.
One thing a provider told me is, they get ypu if ypu answer a LEO trap ad by just showing up. Many ads offer specific services or show excessive nudity. Those ads may be LEO.
Also, read the reviews.
I have been out of the game for a while and from reading the board, it looks like many things have changed. So I have some questions I hope respected seniors can reply to. I am also respectful of the board and do not want to give away good practices to any uncles reading, so feel free to PM if you can.
1. Providers expect a photo from you before meeting, either face pic or otherwise. Do you comply and send one? Do you ignore it and move on? I would never send an actual, but wonder what works.
Never send a face pic, be willing to send a pick holding up fingers or something else to prove you are real, but hide your face.
2. I am very leery of discussing anything specific by phone or text, including what she provides or donations because it could be a trap. But then how do you find out what she provides (services) or expected donation, etc?
Only communicate date, time and duration. Don't be explicite or discuss money. If you have no references for the provider, don't discuss anything until they allow you to touch them... you are still not safe.
Also, case the surroundings befoe you stop, look for uncle LEO.
3. Donations. Some claim never hand it over until the end. Some providers demand it up front. What is a good way to handle this so you don't get ripped off?
Don't give the donation until you have the provider secure. Remember to secure the door to prevent unwanted visits from boyfriends.
Bottom line. What are some good rules for playing the game safe, both to avoid cops and a shady rip off artist?
Weird thing happened to me when I visited a provider some time ago. I've seen this provider a few times.
She began to open up to me like I am a theorpist. She had some heavy emotions going on. I know providers are people who have lives, but at what point do you return to your roles. Or should I have written a bill for my time.
I got the feeling through our time together that night, she may be done with the business, but is not in a place to get out. I heard that is when a provider sorta dies inside and becomes mechanical.
Thoughts?
I have been out of the game for a while and from reading the board, it looks like many things have changed. So I have some questions I hope respected seniors can reply to. PM if you can.
1. Providers expect a photo from you before meeting, either face pic or otherwise. Do you comply and send one? Do you ignore it and move on? I would never send an actual, but wonder what works.
2. I am very leery of discussing anything specific by phone or text, including what she provides or donations because it could be a trap. But then how do you find out what she provides (services) or expected donation, etc?
3. Donations. Some claim never hand it over until the end. Some providers demand it up front. What is a good way to handle this so you don't get ripped off?
Bottom line. What are some good rules for playing the game safe, both to avoid cops and a shady rip off artist(I know this is my first post, but I was a senior member here years ago, just forget the details I signed up with).
1. If a girl asks me to send a pic, I apologize for wasting their time and move on. That is something I have a hard line on never doing. It doesn't prove anything other than you are a man that has a camera phone. It's not like a cop would take a pic in uniform and be like "oops, forgot to take that off, you got me". They are the ones using their body / face to attract customers, not the other way around.
2. I'm like you. I don't like discussing specific services, but then again I rarely have unconventional requests. If the ad says GFE, that's usually enough to tell me I'll get what I want. For the donations they usually tell me that themselves or list it in the ad. But really, the best resource on all of these things is reviews.
3. I've always just given it to them up front. I've been ripped off twice when I was young and dumb. The first time I paid, got undressed and she suddenly got a phone call and said "her sister" was coming over and I had to get out fast but she'd do the visit later (I don't know why I didn't ask for the money back. Again, I was dumb). It took two weeks of me bugging her nonstop to get her to follow through, and it was so unenthusiastic and rushed it was still a ripoff in my opinion. Second time, I was a total moron and believed a girl I saw regularly really desperately needed 200 dollars via moneygram for rent or she'd be out on the street with her kids. Again with the promise of giving me my hour later. Never heard from her again after I called and let her know I sent it. So basically, if I'm there in the room and at the point of taking clothes off, I just pay them. It is more risky, but my days of "taking one for the team" are mostly in the past, so as long as the girl is well-reviewed (and not obviously in a downward spiral with candy etc) that's just how I choose to do it.
Weird thing happened to me when I visited a provider some time ago. I've seen this provider a few times.
She began to open up to me like I am a theorpist. She had some heavy emotions going on. I know providers are people who have lives, but at what point do you return to your roles. Or should I have written a bill for my time.
I got the feeling through our time together that night, she may be done with the business, but is not in a place to get out. I heard that is when a provider sorta dies inside and becomes mechanical.
Thoughts?I'm always wary when they break out the sob stories. Maybe she's genuinely in a bad place and just snapped, maybe she was fishing for the whiteknight / captain save-a-ho types.
In any case, it's not your problem. If she was unable to perform the services you paid for, I would just leave and not return. The nature of the hobby has a fine line between personal and business transactions, but I think it mostly boils down to business. We're not paying for a friend (there are other services for that. No really, you can actually rent platonic friends).
I'm always wary when they break out the sob stories. Maybe she's genuinely in a bad place and just snapped, maybe she was fishing for the whiteknight / captain save-a-ho types.
In any case, it's not your problem. If she was unable to perform the services you paid for, I would just leave and not return. The nature of the hobby has a fine line between personal and business transactions, but I think it mostly boils down to business. We're not paying for a friend (there are other services for that. No really, you can actually rent platonic friends).In the end, I talked her off thr ledge, got down to business and finished what I came to do. But I could tell this visit was really off. This provider is usually very clean, but this time, she was funkey, and not in a good way.
May return.
DePureFymii
03-11-22, 17:37
Episode 24: How To Find An Escort Online (And Offline).
https://thesexyescortguide.com/how-to-find-an-escort-online-and-offline/
The hosts recommended buying things for women you were interested in, and says only escorts would accept the gifts and trade you their time.
Micky Royal says that there are candymen that buy things for women in dire straits to keep control over them, but that isn't what they are saying. What they are saying contradicts with Canuck Guy's Rule 5 and Rule 6.
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