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http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080902/NEWS20/809020341/1170/LOCALNEWSFRONT
Wedding business was sham, FBI says
Foreign bar hostesses allegedly paid stiff fees for fake marriages
By Jim Dooley
Advertiser Courts Writer
A Honolulu wedding business operator has been charged in federal court with immigration fraud for allegedly arranging fake marriages for hostesses working "in the Honolulu karaoke bar industry."
Gwn Ja Kim, owner of Introductions in Paradise Inc., allegedly helped arrange sham marriages for fees in excess of $15,000, according to a sworn affidavit filed in court Friday by FBI Special Agent Gary R. Brown.
Kim was named in a criminal complaint along with co-defendants identified as Grace Jung, Yong Ae Inabnitt and David Chung. None of the defendants could be located for comment yesterday.
Brown said in his affidavit that Kim told a confidential source in surreptitiously tape-recorded sessions that the cost of an arranged marriage "would require $10,000 to start."
Kim further said that immediately following the marriage, to a partner supplied by Kim, the customer could apply for a permanent residency visa card. When the card arrived, usually within four to five months, another $10,000 would be owed, according to Brown's affidavit.
"Two years after that, the (customer) would owe another $10,000, presumably after the (customer) gains United States citizenship through the fraudulent marriage," Brown said in the affidavit.
The witness working with Brown later met with Kim and David Chung, who "had agreed to serve as her husband in the fraudulent marriage," Brown said.
Chung allegedly said he would not live with the witness and that "he did not want to see her other than to do the things necessary to gain her permanent residence status," Brown said.
Chung's girlfriend, Inabnitt, was allegedly part of the scheme and advised Kim on the "trade craft necessary to succeed in a fraudulent marriage — things like opening a bank account, taking pictures that appear to show a personal relationship," Brown said.
The witness eventually met with Kim and Jung in the office of an unidentified attorney July 14 to discuss marriage and immigration issues, according to the criminal complaint.
The attorney spoke only English and Kim, Jung and the witness spoke in Korean, with Jung advising the witness how to answer questions from the attorney.
Tyrone Biggins
09-02-08, 18:24
Interesting stuff. Kind of funny because there is this girl that I met around a year ago who suddenly disappeared from the KB scene. When I inquired about her with the other bar girls, I was told that she got married and is waiting for the GC. I guess she was too nervous to go back into the bar scene because 1) she was working illegally and 2)her marriage was only for the GC.
Hopefully I'll see her when everything is done.
Neko Hunta
09-02-08, 21:24
Interesting stuff. Kind of funny because there is this girl that I met around a year ago who suddenly disappeared from the KB scene. When I inquired about her with the other bar girls, I was told that she got married and is waiting for the GC. I guess she was too nervous to go back into the bar scene because 1) she was working illegally and 2)her marriage was only for the GC.
Hopefully I'll see her when everything is done.Just curious? Did she work at Casino? Did her name start with a K? ;)
Tyrone Biggins
09-03-08, 05:52
Just curious? Did she work at Casino? Did her name start with a K? ;)
No, it was at another bar within the area. You may not know her according to the places you frequent in your reports. However, if you are still curious, send me a PM and I'll be happy to respond. :)
Dan Hawaii
09-03-08, 09:17
wow, $30k, that's cheap. I heard prices went up to 40 to 50k.
I just recently heard a Japanese girl at a J-bar got married to one of her customers. And it was strictly for a green card. Now the victim, er, husband cannot go out with his friends or co-workers. Ironically, he and his co-workers go to the bar she once worked at. From what the mama told me, he's much younger than her and probably won't last much longer. Rule #1 always was and always will be, never fall for the girl. Sucks to be him.
Think about the long term ramifications. If she is caught, she gets deported, you get sent to the federal penitentiary.
If no one gets caught, ten years down the line, you are remarried. If anything happens to you and you pass away, your Social Security benefits go to your first wife. That would be a rude awakening!
StripedFashion
09-05-08, 04:40
I just recently heard a Japanese girl at a J-bar got married to one of her customers. And it was strictly for a green card. Now the victim, er, husband cannot go out with his friends or co-workers. Ironically, he and his co-workers go to the bar she once worked at. From what the mama told me, he's much younger than her and probably won't last much longer. Rule #1 always was and always will be, never fall for the girl. Sucks to be him.On the subject of j-bars, which one you took me too some moons ago with the Nihonjin hostesses in coconut tops and grass skirts, ungodly hot and singing karaoke with insanely crisp voices? I remember across from Walmart.
You know, that "area" with all the "action".
StripedFashion
Dan Hawaii
09-05-08, 04:41
Think about the long term ramifications. If she is caught, she gets deported, you get sent to the federal penitentiary.
If no one gets caught, ten years down the line, you are remarried. If anything happens to you and you pass away, your Social Security benefits go to your first wife. That would be a rude awakening!
Did not know that. Good to know, thanks JR.
Neko Hunta
09-05-08, 05:02
Think about the long term ramifications. If anything happens to you and you pass away, your Social Security benefits go to your first wife. That would be a rude awakening!Wow, I didn't know that! My ex wife is gonna get my ss benefits when I die?
That sucks!
Virtua Stick
09-05-08, 08:59
Think about the long term ramifications. If she is caught, she gets deported, you get sent to the federal penitentiary.
If no one gets caught, ten years down the line, you are remarried. If anything happens to you and you pass away, your Social Security benefits go to your first wife. That would be a rude awakening!I think the first part is true. The second part can be avoided with a good lawyer who knows estate law. Make out a will (everyone should) and possibly a trust (depending on assets) with specific mention regarding who gets your assets. If you do this, when you are remarried, make sure you change the beneficiaries. I doubt you'd change the name to you "first wife" anyways on the will. Does not cost a lot and revisions cost very little.
VS
Tyrone Biggins
09-05-08, 10:17
Did not know that. Good to know, thanks JR.
Good to know, however I am already divorced. So I wouldn't mind hooking up with a girl in exchange for some dough.
Only thing that I learned from the previous post is that my assests will still go to my first wife, nonetheless. (that *****)
Hey Guys,
There's more than what's being said here that have to be realized.
You have to have 3 times the income or assets of the state's the poverty level, . Which was about $19, 000 several years ago for a couple and goes up as the number of children in the family goes up. This is to insure you can take care of them and don't become a liability and burden on the state's welfare system. And, even thought you divorce them, and they somehow find a way to cheat and get money from the Welfare system and get caught, you will be liable and responsable for paying back the money they "Stole".
Get all kind of stuff you have to know. If you don't have asets, the girl's family or a co-signer can be used, like getting a loan. If you fail, they got someone to go and get the money from. CYA is their theory.
Good to know, however I am already divorced. So I wouldn't mind hooking up with a girl in exchange for some dough.
Only thing that I learned from the previous post is that my assests will still go to my first wife, nonetheless. (that *****)Sounds like a good deal to me. IF you're lucky enough to find a hottie in need of a green card. You can get sex and paid for the 2-3 years of marriage or whatever it is, just think of how much money you'll save not having to monger...AS MUCH ;) Jus don't get caught brotha TB.
Once had a girl at New Yorker ask me if I would marry her for $10,000 but I didn't quite think I heard her correctly so I asked her to repeat and she said nevermind, and wouldn't repeat it, and back then I was just a poor college student in need of some cash, I might have actually done it, but not sure if it happened again, she was a hottie and a great spinner of a k-girl.
Think about the long term ramifications. If she is caught, she gets deported, you get sent to the federal penitentiary.
If no one gets caught, ten years down the line, you are remarried. If anything happens to you and you pass away, your Social Security benefits go to your first wife. That would be a rude awakening!
John Ross, nowadays, it's more like 13 to 15+ years. Things have gotten even harder with everything that happened. Pre and post 9/11. I helped a friend when she was getting divorced (student visa and married without thinking). Her lawyer, who was good, said she was really lucky to get a visa.
On the subject of j-bars, which one you took me too some moons ago with the Nihonjin hostesses in coconut tops and grass skirts, ungodly hot and singing karaoke with insanely crisp voices? I remember across from Walmart.
You know, that "area" with all the "action".
StripedFashion
SF, La Vien Rose. I don't quite remember the coconut tops w/ grass skirts. But there were costumed nights and lingerie nights. (the latter being invite only). But the bar I was talking about (with the poor guy getting duped) was the other J-bar I took you.
I think the first part is true. The second part can be avoided with a good lawyer who knows estate law. Make out a will (everyone should) and possibly a trust (depending on assets) with specific mention regarding who gets your assets. If you do this, when you are remarried, make sure you change the beneficiaries. I doubt you'd change the name to you "first wife" anyways on the will. Does not cost a lot and revisions cost very little.
VS
It is not your personal assets I am talking about. It is the Social Security death/survivor benefits that are in question. As far as I know, it goes to the first wife for some strange reason.
Neko Hunta
09-06-08, 05:08
Sounds like a good deal to me. IF you're lucky enough to find a hottie in need of a green card. You can get sex and paid for the 2-3 years of marriage or whatever it is, just think of how much money you'll save not having to monger...AS MUCH ;) Jus don't get caught brotha TB.Mr Okada,
You'll be a lucky dude if you can get sex regularly in a GC marriage. GC marriages are on paper only. In most cases you will never be alone with her. Let alone sleep in the same bed together. I have a few friends that did the GC thing and is strickly on paper only. It only about the GC and the money they pay for it, that all.
Tyrone Biggins
09-06-08, 08:38
Funny thing..
Met my old partner tonight after i bought cigarettes from Walgreens. She recognized me first, and I was like "who the fuck are you?!". Then the common bar sense kicked in, and I was like, "Hey Y*** - ya!". She didn't hesitate to give me her number and then off I went. I'll be at the bar tomorrow to buy her drinks. G'Damn, she's looking really good. I'll try for some extras tomorrow and be back to report!
Be safe,
TB
It is not your personal assets I am talking about. It is the Social Security death/survivor benefits that are in question. As far as I know, it goes to the first wife for some strange reason.
If you were married for 10+ years, any and all of your former wives will get SS benefits based on your lifetime earnings.
Think about the long term ramifications. If she is caught, she gets deported, you get sent to the federal penitentiary.
Good point. In my opinion, the money isn't worth the risk of a guy ruining his life. As I posted when this topic was previously discussed in another thread, marriage fraud, visa fraud, and conspiracy to commit either of those frauds are all federal felonies. From the Honolulu Star-Bulletin: "Penalties for conspiracy and marriage fraud are a maximum of five years' imprisonment and a fine of up to $250,000. Visa fraud carries a possible term of up to 10 years' imprisonment and a fine of up to $250,000." As recently as last year, there were four people convicted for such a scheme right here in Honolulu. Now there are four more people who have been charged and will likely also be convicted. There are probably others in the past who haven't been featured in the newspaper. A person could be caught in unexpected ways, such as the "confidential source" mentioned in the Honolulu Advertiser article. Sure, it might seem like "easy money" at the time, but someone who's caught will have lost money after paying the lawyer, paying a fine, earning no income while he's incarcerated, and probably losing future income because his employment opportunities will be limited as a convicted federal felon. Overall, this sort of scheme sounds like something better to avoid.
You could get $10,000. in the mid 80s, with less consequences and less restrictions. There was the huge Japanese spending boom, and the smart KB girls who were raking in the $Kilo hand over fist. It wasn't unheard of for them to make 10K in a week. Lots of mamas got there grubstakes and liquor licenses from that time.
... soda A or soda X?
LOL..good one, Brother BB..no cuz,
"I LIKE DA CRACKA!"
hahah!
H
... soda A or soda X?What are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
unless i got it wrong, i'm disapointed. Brother Hinode got it.
Tyrone Biggins
09-09-08, 05:50
You could get $10,000. in the mid 80s, with less consequences and less restrictions. There was the huge Japanese spending boom, and the smart KB girls who were raking in the $Kilo hand over fist. It wasn't unheard of for them to make 10K in a week. Lots of mamas got there grubstakes and liquor licenses from that time.
True to that. The thing that gets me down is that I always seem to miss out on this sort of opportunities. Back in the day, guys could get away doing all types of stuff. Too bad that during this era, I was still attending elementary/intermediate school. ha.
wow, $30k, that's cheap. I heard prices went up to 40 to 50k.45k easily in New York.
Neko Hunta
01-01-09, 20:03
45k easily in New York.Not anymore! Why are they going to spend that kind of scripts when the visa was lifted?
Not anymore! Why are they going to spend that kind of scripts when the visa was lifted?
From my understanding when the visa is lifted it will make it harder for them to work here since the visa waver is for tourism and not employment. Thus when INS raids the establisment if they don't have a visa they get deported. To me it seems that there have been more INS raids as of late. I could be wrong on the whole thig though.
Not anymore! Why are they going to spend that kind of scripts when the visa was lifted?As Ninja13 stated that the visa was lifted for tourism purposes. Making it easier for Korean tourist to come like the Japanese but being on tour is only good for 90 days. They still need someone to marry to get a green card to stay in the US permanently. I had gf from Japan once and she would state to the immigration officers at the airport that she would be visiting for 3 months and was barraged with a whole bunch of questions.
Good point. In my opinion, the money isn't worth the risk of a guy ruining his life. As I posted when this topic was previously discussed in another thread, marriage fraud, visa fraud, and conspiracy to commit either of those frauds are all federal felonies. From the Honolulu Star-Bulletin: "Penalties for conspiracy and marriage fraud are a maximum of five years' imprisonment and a fine of up to $250,000. Visa fraud carries a possible term of up to 10 years' imprisonment and a fine of up to $250,000." As recently as last year, there were four people convicted for such a scheme right here in Honolulu. Now there are four more people who have been charged and will likely also be convicted. There are probably others in the past who haven't been featured in the newspaper. A person could be caught in unexpected ways, such as the "confidential source" mentioned in the Honolulu Advertiser article. Sure, it might seem like "easy money" at the time, but someone who's caught will have lost money after paying the lawyer, paying a fine, earning no income while he's incarcerated, and probably losing future income because his employment opportunities will be limited as a convicted federal felon. Overall, this sort of scheme sounds like something better to avoid.Not to sound like a dumbass, but 5 years ago an associate asked if I wanted to marry her Russian friend for 5000. Sure as hell wouldn't have entered into something like That, plus she admitted the girl wouldn't be "friendly". But for the sake of discussion, had I went and "marrried" her, I'd have potentially been screwed?
Not to sound like a dumbass, but 5 years ago an associate asked if I wanted to marry her Russian friend for 5000. Sure as hell wouldn't have entered into something like That, plus she admitted the girl wouldn't be "friendly". But for the sake of discussion, had I went and "marrried" her, I'd have potentially been screwed?
Yes, potentially. If the government became aware of the illegality and had enough evidence to prove it, you could have been convicted of a federal felony.
Neko Hunta
01-05-09, 05:48
As Ninja13 stated that the visa was lifted for tourism purposes. Making it easier for Korean tourist to come like the Japanese but being on tour is only good for 90 days. They still need someone to marry to get a green card to stay in the US permanently. I had gf from Japan once and she would state to the immigration officers at the airport that she would be visiting for 3 months and was barraged with a whole bunch of questions.I know that the visa was lifted for tourists and business for 90 days.
My point was that since the visa was lifted, wouldn't it drop the pricing on GC marriages? Easier to hide and work in a bar without the visa? Especially if the 90 days are not up? They can just say that they are there just drinking. This could be a good thing for the bars though. New faces here on vacation testing out the waters on a new future, being a bar maid and making tons of money!
Lataz,
Neko
Liampark808
01-05-09, 10:44
Especially if the 90 days are not up? They can just say that they are there just drinking. No doubt there may be some girls that come here and see what it's like, but if they were found working at any bar I would think the bar and maybe the girl would be busted by LE. The only real time anyone is busted is by undercover LE. And if they buy a girl a $20 drink to have her sit with them and bust her later for something they are gonna say that she is an employee working there and needs a work visa. Liquor Commission is gonna say she needed to be registered with them and that she needed to have a time card to be clocked in at the time. So even if she says she was a tourist and was just drinking, I'm sure LE is going to say they paid for her drinks and that she was working at the time. Just my opinion on that.
Anyone have any recent first hand info on this subject?
If the price was right I'd be interested!
I know that the visa was lifted for tourists and business for 90 days.
My point was that since the visa was lifted, wouldn't it drop the pricing on GC marriages? Easier to hide and work in a bar without the visa? Especially if the 90 days are not up? They can just say that they are there just drinking. This could be a good thing for the bars though. New faces here on vacation testing out the waters on a new future, being a bar maid and making tons of money!
Lataz,
NekoWhether you have a tour visa or like Japan that you only need a passport your stay is still 90 days. If they want to stay permanently then they'll have to marry an U.S. citizen in order to get the green card so lifting a visa makes no difference. They still need to marry an U.S. citizen if they want to stay in theh U.S. permanently.
Neko Hunta
01-07-09, 04:11
Anyone have any recent first hand info on this subject?
If the price was right I'd be interested!What price is right for you? Might have a couple waiting but like I wrote earlier the prices dropped, big time. Make sure you are in for it. Strictly marriage on paper only. No sex no kissing no nothing. You'll never see her after the marriage anyways. PM me if still interested.
Lataz,
Neko
Modelsearch10
01-08-09, 02:59
While living in Guam a few years ago I was asked by a Chinese woman that owned a "Massage Parlor" (not hot at all and knew I was banging her girls that worked there) if I would marry her for her to get her green card and she would pay me 20 Thou up front and another 20 once the papers went through. If I wasnt already married I probably would have done it AND she said she could get me started with others girls to do it with alsoafter we were done. That could have easily just been a job! Oh decisions, decisions.
Few years ago I was offered $40k to marry my vietnam nail therapist's sister. She had 6 sisters with 1 still back in saigon (ho chi min city).
I would have done it accept I have not been paying taxes for years after leaving the professional gambling business in Costa Rica and came to hawaii in 2000.
The us govt want to see you financials before you marry someone from abroad. It was easier then. I think hard to do now if you don't have all the right paperwork in order.
Mahalo
While living in Guam a few years ago I was asked by a Chinese woman that owned a "Massage Parlor" (not hot at all and knew I was banging her girls that worked there) if I would marry her for her to get her green card and she would pay me 20 Thou up front and another 20 once the papers went through. If I wasnt already married I probably would have done it AND she said she could get me started with others girls to do it with alsoafter we were done. That could have easily just been a job! Oh decisions, decisions.
...AND she said she could get me started with others girls to do it with alsoafter we were done. That could have easily just been a job! Oh decisions, decisions.
"THAT" would've been a red flag I would think...
"THAT" would've been a red flag I would think...
THAT would mean Federal prison, if caught.
Modelsearch10
01-11-09, 03:39
THAT would mean Federal prison, if caught.Part of the reason I said no. It was a real offer and there was no need to worry about her not being serious. I mean she was basically running an illegal brothel!
THAT would mean Federal prison, if caught.
Also, there's probably more risk of being caught than some might believe. Even if the "husband" is very careful to always keep his mouth shut, he can't be certain that the "wife" and anyone else involved in arranging the fraudulent marriage are always being as careful. One of them might reveal something (even inadvertently) to someone considered a friend at the time, but who is or later becomes an informant. Additionally, if the "wife" or an arranger of the marriage is interrogated by the government, there will most likely be no loyalty to the "husband." If the "wife" or anyone else can obtain a better deal with the government by providing evidence against the "husband," he could easily find himself in trouble.
Warburton 0263
01-12-09, 01:09
Ther is an ad in CL for marriage. For those who are looking to ger married here is your chance. I hope some of you mongers can check this out and report back.
An asian gurl needin a marriage partner fast!! - 18
Reply to: pers-981904079@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2009-01-05, 7:33PM HST
I really want to get married for a certain reason, and I don't have anyone around me that's willing to do it. If you want to help out an asian girl an get some benefits, email me and let's talk about this!
http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/w4m/981904079.html
Master Yoda
01-13-09, 17:12
Ther is an ad in CL for marriage. For those who are looking to ger married here is your chance. I hope some of you mongers can check this out and report back.
An asian gurl needin a marriage partner fast!! - 18
Reply to: pers-981904079@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2009-01-05, 7:33PM HST
I really want to get married for a certain reason, and I don't have anyone around me that's willing to do it. If you want to help out an asian girl an get some benefits, email me and let's talk about this!
http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/w4m/981904079.htmlSomething smells fishy here! The stank is strong.
Who in their right mind would even consider marrying a girl that posted on the CL yet alone inquire about it.
Modelsearch10
01-14-09, 05:10
Wow, thats ballsy OR someone reading the posts and doing some "fishing". Be carefull out there brothers, sounds a little too convieniet considering the conversation.
http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/w4m/1006680589.html
I'm looking for a contract marriage partner.
I need to get married by next week.
So if you're willing to dedicate you time and be willing to help me out let me know
I'm just looking for a honest and trustworthy person who is not a psycho.
I'm 18 and my student visa expires since I dropped out of school.
Please don't ask me for pics. I look good and you can trust me on that.
Don't ask me about my situation either.
I want to meet u up in person and discuss things.
What do you guys think? Legit or LE?
I'm looking for a contract marriage partner.
I need to get married by next week.
... I'm 18 and my student visa expires since I dropped out of school.
Even if it's not LE "fishing," there is no way that any sensible person should become involved with it. If this teenage girl is so foolish that she publicly advertises about seeking a fraudulent marriage ("contract marriage partner" ... "I need to get married by next week" ... "my student visa expires since I dropped out of school"), just think how easily she and her "husband" could be caught for committing that federal felony.
Excellent Dude
03-18-09, 04:59
This stuff is rampant on the mainland. There is an apartment building in Baltimore called Charles Place in the Inner Harbor where many of the women are students from China. These women make themselves easy to be had by the locals (and they pick on some real homely looking guys)and tell them they love them etc. The guys fall in love with them and marry them. These guys do not want to hear warnings about Green Cards motives and actually get pissed off if you try to warn them. After the 2 years, guess what happens. The women get their permanent green cards and split. And the guys have got their fingers up their asses wondering why the women they love so much left them.
This just goes to show you how really blind men can get when it comes to pussy and their loneliness.
My opinion is that it is much kinder if these women just come out and do what this gal is doing. Just proposition them privately and let their intentions be known.
The reason, children have been involved and there have been cases where suicide has occurred because of such break-ups.
Only my opinion.
Excellent Dude
Modelsearch10
03-18-09, 13:55
This stuff is rampant on the mainland. There is an apartment building in Baltimore called Charles Place in the Inner Harbor where many of the women are students from China. These women make themselves easy to be had by the locals (and they pick on some real homely looking guys)and tell them they love them etc. The guys fall in love with them and marry them. These guys do not want to hear warnings about Green Cards motives and actually get pissed off if you try to warn them. After the 2 years, guess what happens. The women get their permanent green cards and split. And the guys have got their fingers up their asses wondering why the women they love so much left them.
This just goes to show you how really blind men can get when it comes to pussy and their loneliness.
My opinion is that it is much kinder if these women just come out and do what this gal is doing. Just proposition them privately and let their intentions be known.
The reason, children have been involved and there have been cases where suicide has occurred because of such break-ups.
Only my opinion.
Excellent Dude
You see it ALL the time in the military, Ex: When I was in Korea a few years back I had 2 different Korean friends that got "married" and left for the States. Hell I didnt even know they were engaged! A few months, YES MONTHS later they were back and working in the bars again. Turns out that they both were serial brides and would get married (to higher ranking old guys) and get as much out of them as they could in a short time and then go back to Korea. I was there again recently and they were STILL doing the same thing! Another example is the Filipinas that are in Korea now. We all hear how bad life is in the PI and the things you see some of these girls put up with is crazy, and makes you believe it. I have seen SO many cute girls marry these homely dorky, never had pussy since pussy had them kind of guys. SOME of those guys get lucky and end up with reallly good wives and others end up heartbroken in Divorce, once the girl gets her green card and realizes that there are alot better guys out there to fuck, hell I know a few that are married and still taking poundings from other guys so they dont have to put up with the dorky husband that they have. Its about control. The girls know that the guy cant get any better or in some cases, any at all, so they are the ones to call the shots in the relationship. The dorks are just a means to an end for the girls, a way out of a bad home life back in the PI. The Russians that were there a few years back were the same way, I seen ALOT of them married to Koreans the last time I was there also. They were HOT I just hated their voices...too deep. Made me want to do an adams apple check!
Belot Eater
06-19-09, 08:30
Saw a lady I knew for a longtime when I went bar hopping tonight.
She told me if I can marry her friend for GC. I ask her about her other customer but she said they are to old (age difference in marriage) I ask her how much her friend willing to pay? 30.000? mmmmmmmm...tempting.
Told her I'll think about it and get back to her but she said she stop by my work place on saturday. WTF!? I know she going show me her friend. bg are full of surprise, but tempting.
Saw a lady I knew for a longtime when I went bar hopping tonight.
She told me if I can marry her friend for GC. I ask her about her other customer but she said they are to old (age difference in marriage) I ask her how much her friend willing to pay? 30.000? mmmmmmmm...tempting.
Told her I'll think about it and get back to her but she said she stop by my work place on saturday. WTF!? I know she going show me her friend. bg are full of surprise, but tempting.
Heavy penalty if you get caught.
Stangman808
06-20-09, 06:03
Saw a lady I knew for a longtime when I went bar hopping tonight.
She told me if I can marry her friend for GC. I ask her about her other customer but she said they are to old (age difference in marriage) I ask her how much her friend willing to pay? 30.000? mmmmmmmm...tempting.
Told her I'll think about it and get back to her but she said she stop by my work place on saturday. WTF!? I know she going show me her friend. bg are full of surprise, but tempting.
Not worth the risk. It's a Federal Offense. If you get busted, you will do jail time.
Belot Eater
06-20-09, 14:51
Lately alot of people been asking me to marry somebody even the the clerk at the gas station that I knew for one year.
This year my friend is married to a bg for GC. He tells me he all in love with her and this and that but it's so sad he never see that when she has the GC she be gone. His stressing out now cause the trust is not there and she still working in the bar so they fight alot.
The good part is that he gets some belot action. Tempting
I would definatly do a gc marrage. I was asked a few times when I was still married, but now that I got divorced a few years ago, I would do it. I don't know how much I would wantn but I do know what I would want. Sex aint part of it either. If I got it great, if not who cares. I still would go out and do my thing and she could do hers. I do believe in gc marrages. To me there is more to a marrage then just sex and bills. There is the helping your partner and partner helping you. It's about having fun and accomplishing goals together.
I would definatly do a gc marrage. I was asked a few times when I was still married, but now that I got divorced a few years ago, I would do it. I don't know how much I would wantn but I do know what I would want. Sex aint part of it either. If I got it great, if not who cares. I still would go out and do my thing and she could do hers. I do believe in gc marrages. To me there is more to a marrage then just sex and bills. There is the helping your partner and partner helping you. It's about having fun and accomplishing goals together.
Umm, Huh? You know she may not see you at all or only when necessary?
If you want or need the money then cool, take your chances. If you want the outcome to be love or long time companionship, good luck. I personally know more than a handful of kbgs (whether as friends or temporary gfs) living in Hawaii that got gc marriages b/c they didn't want to live in Korea. Of some of my past gfs that I've been with that were on visas, they have asked or "hinted" for marriage which I always denied because the fear of their ulterior motives. They have since moved on.
The best gc story I heard was that one dude promised her a gc so they quickly started a relationship (he never asked about money so that was a plus for her and I guess she put out) but bs'd about the whole thing and kept prolonging the paper marriage. She got fed up and left for other opportunities but she did do some investigating from the k-wireless community and found out that this dude had a history of promises with other bgs and she was just another number on his list. Pretty smart dude with a good angle on an untapped market, I think.
Some opinions on money in exchange for marriage: Success rate is high if you want the money and want minimal contact with them (except for the formalities and the interviews). Most GC marriages, the girl will pay the initial fee and a small exit fee upon the divorce. Most "husbands" try to leverage the exit fee at the end but, at that point, some girls don't care and will threaten whistleblow knowing that they can also put the guy in prison.
This stuff is rampant on the mainland. There is an apartment building in Baltimore called Charles Place in the Inner Harbor where many of the women are students from China. These women make themselves easy to be had by the locals (and they pick on some real homely looking guys)and tell them they love them etc. The guys fall in love with them and marry them. These guys do not want to hear warnings about Green Cards motives and actually get pissed off if you try to warn them. After the 2 years, guess what happens. The women get their permanent green cards and split. And the guys have got their fingers up their asses wondering why the women they love so much left them.
This just goes to show you how really blind men can get when it comes to pussy and their loneliness.
My opinion is that it is much kinder if these women just come out and do what this gal is doing. Just proposition them privately and let their intentions be known.
The reason, children have been involved and there have been cases where suicide has occurred because of such break-ups.
Only my opinion.
Excellent Dude
What is the risk after the divorce? Is the wife entitled to half of your property? May be a lot to lose if so.
The best gc story I heard was that one dude promised her a gc so they quickly started a relationship (he never asked about money so that was a plus for her and I guess she put out) but bs'd about the whole thing and kept prolonging the paper marriage. She got fed up and left for other opportunities but she did do some investigating from the k-wireless community and found out that this dude had a history of promises with other bgs and she was just another number on his list. Pretty smart dude with a good angle on an untapped market, I think.
Someone took my line!
Iliketowatch
12-21-09, 16:23
What is the risk after the divorce? Is the wife entitled to half of your property? May be a lot to lose if so.
Never got hitched but, many of my friends lost half of their assets after their divorces (to non-bar girls). Hawaii is a 50/50 divorce state, so take this for what it's worth. I guess you should see a lawyer 1st or get a pre-nup. The worst story I heard of was a guy married a bar chick, lived it up for three years. Never worked, spent his money (his fault, he felt manly giving her what see wanted: moral–the spending never stops), had two kids with him then one day the two kids showed up in a taxi at his work place. Wifey was gone. Now he has to rear two kids on his own, no savings, no pussy. Was it worth it? Scares me.
Thumperforq
12-21-09, 18:27
Never got hitched but, many of my friends lost half of their assets after their divorces (to non-bar girls). Hawaii is a 50/50 divorce state, so take this for what it's worth. I guess you should see a lawyer 1st or get a pre-nup. The worst story I heard of was a guy married a bar chick, lived it up for three years. Never worked, spent his money (his fault, he felt manly giving her what see wanted: moral–the spending never stops), had two kids with him then one day the two kids showed up in a taxi at his work place. Wifey was gone. Now he has to rear two kids on his own, no savings, no pussy. Was it worth it? Scares me.
Hawaii is actually a no fault divorce state. What ever you came into the marriage with (assets and debts) is yours and cannot be touched by your spouse when you divorce. The only thing that will be divided is what you accumulated while you were married, and child support. Inheritence is also off the table, unless the inheritence was to both of you.
I guess you should see a lawyer 1st or get a pre-nup.
I heard a pre-nup does not work in Hawaii.
Warburton 0263
12-22-09, 00:38
one day the two kids showed up in a taxi at his work place. Wifey was gone. Now he has to rear two kids on his own, no savings, no pussy. Was it worth it? Scares me.
Sounds like it was a good thing that she left.
It would be worst if she ran with the kids to the home land and never found again. Money can be made again, now that she is not spending it. Pussy can be purchased.
WB
Member #3973
01-09-10, 22:27
I just had a guy pm me from the east coast.
find out where she was. This guy was madly in love with her and has looked all over his area with no luck.The best bet is for him to leave a phone number and the name he used for his visits with the MS the last place she worked and ask MS to tell the "lost" AMP girl to call him. If she is interested in seeing him again, she WILL call.
Once Junko had disappeared from Sisi's so I left Sisi a phone number to call me.
Junko called me a couple of weeks later. Not bad considering I had only seen her once and that was actually before she worked for Sisi. Of course I just
wanted another session.
How should I go about getting one of these setup? Just curious because I'm bored and could use some action. Don't worry I'm pretty cold and won't get all emotionally involved.
Saw a lady I knew for a longtime when I went bar hopping tonight.
She told me if I can marry her friend for GC. I ask her about her other customer but she said they are to old (age difference in marriage) I ask her how much her friend willing to pay? 30. 000? Mmmmmmmm. Tempting.
Told her I'll think about it and get back to her but she said she stop by my work place on Saturday. WTF! I know she going show me her friend. Bg are full of surprise, but tempting.That's a tough one. Need to have the same address / checking account / both names on legal documents, ie rental lease (the more you show that is shared the easier it is). (2) Biometrics but the paperwork can be done on your own. Not that hard, just read carefully and have a professional you can consult with. Show proof of activity with aforementioned. 2 years minimum. And, the last biometric she can do on her own for the permanent resident card.
Much more involved than what I can post here with my phone.
V Rider
Pokeman808
09-11-11, 15:31
That's a tough one. Need to have the same address / checking account / both names on legal documents, ie rental lease (the more you show that is shared the easier it is). (2) Biometrics but the paperwork can be done on your own. Not that hard, just read carefully and have a professional you can consult with. Show proof of activity with aforementioned. 2 years minimum. And, the last biometric she can do on her own for the permanent resident card.
Much more involved than what I can post here with my phone.
V RiderI always wondered what the going rate was for GC marriage. I was approached a couple of times. First one was a student / classmate of a friend (NON BG) and was willing to pay 20k. I asked if sex would be included (hehe) and she said NO has a boyfriend. She was hot and would've been more tempting if I could hit it whenever I wanted. Also thought 20k was too low. Second one was a friend who knew a BG looking for GC. I quickly declined before asking any questions.
I guess if you come to an agreement on the right amount of $$$ and if sex is included I might have a go. Throw in a car and maybe an apartment? LOL dream on!
I always wondered what the going rate was for GC marriage. I was approached a couple of times. First one was a student / classmate of a friend (NON BG) and was willing to pay 20k. I asked if sex would be included (hehe) and she said NO has a boyfriend. She was hot and would've been more tempting if I could hit it whenever I wanted. Also thought 20k was too low. Second one was a friend who knew a BG looking for GC. I quickly declined before asking any questions.
I guess if you come to an agreement on the right amount of $$$ and if sex is included I might have a go. Throw in a car and maybe an apartment? LOL dream on!You get what you feel, all depends on the extras, almost like a provider which in order to become USA, she got to give up something beside $$$. I had a one when I use to call on these kbg for work, knew mama for at least 10yrs, she wanted favor. Took on a friend's girl and wanted her to get one GC. She was cute, innocent, but hard bc only kala involved in the deal, no xtras, not even one truck (which I included in the negotiations). Kala was 25Gz, but went up to 30Gz (mama added). Said, no can, aole.
Had another offer, BUT that one had the spider senses go up cause it did not feel rt. And the $$$ was good.
Even had my X GF ask if I would ever marry for $$$, that one was interesting. Never know what fo say
I always wondered what the going rate was for GC marriage. I was approached a couple of times. First one was a student / classmate of a friend (NON BG) and was willing to pay 20k. I asked if sex would be included (hehe) and she said NO has a boyfriend. She was hot and would've been more tempting if I could hit it whenever I wanted. Also thought 20k was too low. Second one was a friend who knew a BG looking for GC. I quickly declined before asking any questions.
I guess if you come to an agreement on the right amount of $$$ and if sex is included I might have a go. Throw in a car and maybe an apartment? LOL dream on!Risk vs Reward=not worth it, even for 50k and some ass. I was married to a nihonjin and went thru the whole process. USCIS is very good at determining the reality of your situation. VERY good.
V Rider
Risk vs Reward=not worth it, even for 50k and some ass. I was married to a nihonjin and went thru the whole process. USCIS is very good at determining the reality of your situation. VERY good. V RiderThe proposition may sound good but if caught you'll spend more than $50K for a legal defense and, if convicted, fines and time, and your ess. It used to be a popular method in the past for all parties but nowadays it's not worth it, per V Rider.
I have been approached by a few BGs about GC marriages. They kept asking me about the on going prices. I told them, I've heard something like 30G+Sex once every two weeks. They said that is a good deal, however, they do complain that they are having a really hard time finding a deal taker. They asked me if I would take the deal? Told them "Definitely NO". And also told them "don't even ask me to think about it". I have a good job and make enough money to take a good care of myself, and definitely don't need any help from any BGs. Oh, they also asked me if I knew any potential sugar daddies and maybe I can introduce them. I was like: Only stupid, hopeless men would do that. They said there are men out there who want to give a girl $3, 000 per month, plus some other things, just to have her as a girlfriend. Told them, good luck, and that man is definitely not me.
I just feel that if you have your emotions and shit together it may be worth the risk. Again it would depend on the girl. Ideally you would be emotionally unattached but still friends. Friends in the sense that the sex is good and the marriage is strictly one of convieince. I'm meant come on, how many guys do you know that got suckered into marriage and didn't get paid / laid.
I know 3 couples that did the GC marriage in the mainland (they're not BGs / providers). Just people helping friends come over to the US. I don't know / doubt they get any benefits, I know they accepted money in the 20k range. One girl I met at the club, years ago (I'm my younger college years) and we hooked up. Then later I found out she was married to some a friend of a friend. Thats when I found out they did a GC thing. Regardless I stayed clear away from it anyways. Fast forward almost a decade, they're still F'and married. 2 people from 2 diff couples, they have "so-called new husband / wives + kids" But they're still legally married to the GC people.
At what point do you just ditch the *****? I mean if you bring them over and divorce after 2 years I'm sure someone will be knocking on your door. But 10 years? Before we got married, we both were considering doing it just for the money. Then we asked one of our friends who did it, and she said not worth it. She only did it because it was to help a family member out.
Sancho2063
09-14-11, 02:07
Risk vs Reward=not worth it, even for 50k and some ass. I was married to a nihonjin and went thru the whole process. USCIS is very good at determining the reality of your situation. VERY good.
V RiderThanks for this post Bruddah V. A while back I offered 30k for a green card marriage but I was already married. Now that I am divorced I have thought about trying it out but it doesn't sound like it is worth the trouble.
I know 3 couples that did the GC marriage in the mainland (they're not BGs / providers). Just people helping friends come over to the US. I don't know / doubt they get any benefits, I know they accepted money in the 20k range. One girl I met at the club, years ago (I'm my younger college years) and we hooked up. Then later I found out she was married to some a friend of a friend. Thats when I found out they did a GC thing. Regardless I stayed clear away from it anyways. Fast forward almost a decade, they're still F'and married. 2 people from 2 diff couples, they have "so-called new husband / wives + kids" But they're still legally married to the GC people.
At what point do you just ditch the * I mean if you bring them over and divorce after 2 years I'm sure someone will be knocking on your door. But 10 years? Before we got married, we both were considering doing it just for the money. Then we asked one of our friends who did it, and she said not worth it. She only did it because it was to help a family member out.She can apply and get a work permit as soon as you present the marriage license. After 2years she gets the permanent resident card. 10 years is the last USCIS meeting to see if you have indeed been taking care of her.
Got to understand this important point: the "immigrant fiancee" has just as much control as you, if not more. YOU have to prove you can financially support him / her and at anytime he / she can claim you are not a good "sponsor" of the VISA because you ARE the sponsor of the VISA. You are responsible for the education, well being, financial status, living situations, everything! She can bring you up on charges very easily as someone who is not responsible. If she gets into trouble, you are responsible-up to a point. Can get very expensive in legal fees. That's what I'm talking about when RISK+REWARD=NOT WORTH IT. She can easily, very very easily f*k up your life.
But to each his own. YMMV. What's life without risk?
V Rider
Does someone need a greencard.
Back in September 2010, a provider mentioned to me that she would soon be travelling on vacation back to her home country. She wanted me to meet her there in her home country so she could introduce me to her younger sister. The provider was obviously hoping that I would marry her younger sister and bring her younger sister to the US. Her younger sister was in her late twenties at that time. Additionally, her younger sister was a single mother of one child. The provider even showed me some pictures of her younger sister. Sadly, I could not accept that offer. The anti-polygamy laws are so darned inconvenient.
I am sorry, but I really don't want to post that provider's name here. She is REALLY nice, and I don't want to do anything that may embarrass her. If you know who I am talking about, PLEASE don't post her name here. I am wondering whether that provider made that offer to other mongers. If you know who I am talking about, you can PM me with the provider's name, and I'll respond if you give me the correct name. One guess per monger.
Belot Eater
09-15-12, 22:53
I thinking about giving it a go. 10 grand up front to rent a 2 br apartment near koreanmoku. I take one room and she take the other. We have the same add. 3 years gone fast. I know sex not involved so no big deal I just need the money to support my drinking habit. Hehe.
Yo,
Wow you lucky dog. Das was one good offer. U taking about Juile? Apple? Kelly? Hana? Miki?
So her sister 26 now? Shit I like chance um. Set me up kid.
How much she going pay me? U know the going rate.
Shit if you not going tell us who, why you post? Waste time.
Point is dis story been around for decades-nothing new. I know dudes who did it, dudes that got busted and gone to prison too. Did I say decades? Same shit story kid.
If you know who dis is PLEASE POST HER NAME so we all know who dis scammer is. Dis been discussed in depth many time in this forum. Read same shit story. Pay attention to the part about the SCAM. These hoes are good, real good. I know. Ask my buds who got burned. They said if they knew, they would never had done it.
The bullshit and scammer lights are blinking blinking-warning warning!
Back in September 2010, a provider mentioned to me that she would soon be travelling on vacation back to her home country. She wanted me to meet her there in her home country so she could introduce me to her younger sister. The provider was obviously hoping that I would marry her younger sister and bring her younger sister to the US. Her younger sister was in her late twenties at that time. Additionally, her younger sister was a single mother of one child. The provider even showed me some pictures of her younger sister. Sadly, I could not accept that offer. The anti-polygamy laws are so darned inconvenient.
I am sorry, but I really don't want to post that provider's name here. She is REALLY nice, and I don't want to do anything that may embarrass her. If you know who I am talking about, PLEASE don't post her name here. I am wondering whether that provider made that offer to other mongers. If you know who I am talking about, you can PM me with the provider's name, and I'll respond if you give me the correct name. One guess per monger.
Shit if you not going tell us who, why you post? Waste time. Point is dis story been around for decades-nothing new. I know dudes who did it, dudes that got busted and gone to prison too. Did I say decades? If you know who dis is PLEASE POST HER NAME so we all know who dis scammer is.Hate 2 admit it but got to agree w / braddah JB. Its not an unusual request. Heck, I've gotten requests from SQUARE women wanting me 2 marry their family members just 2 bring them here 2 the US. If wasn't 4 some good RL friends, & even some of the braddahs here, I'd prob be in jail. Like 1 of the other braddahs wrote, why take that chance? Not worth spending years in jail 2 bring over some ho who just wants a GC.
If was me, I would demand 50k, not 10k.
If not, no boddah me. Waste time.
Hate 2 admit it but got to agree w / braddah JB. Its not an unusual request. Heck, I've gotten requests from SQUARE women wanting me 2 marry their family members just 2 bring them here 2 the US. If wasn't 4 some good RL friends, & even some of the braddahs here, I'd prob be in jail. Like 1 of the other braddahs wrote, why take that chance? Not worth spending years in jail 2 bring over some ho who just wants a GC.
If was me, I would demand 50k, not 10k.
If not, no boddah me. Waste time.I remember that some guys in the KBs were offered 30 to 40K for things like this. Strange for them to be offering on 10K today. It's not worth the risk 10K to live with someone, no sex, and potential of spending five to ten next to new boyfriend Bubba.
I remember that some guys in the KBs were offered 30 to 40K for things like this. Strange for them to be offering on 10K today. It's not worth the risk 10K to live with someone, no sex, and potential of spending five to ten next to new boyfriend Bubba.Some Russian girl (who unfortunately was married yet displayed her cleavage every chance she had) offered me only 5k to marry her friend from Russia like it was a fortune, but admitted her friend would not be friendly or 'take care' of me.
Member #4374
12-25-12, 02:04
I heard the going rate on a greencard marriage is 100K now.
Those girls who come down here on a 3 month travel Visa to work bar and are trying to find some sucker to marry them that soon are funny. Unfortunately, their games work on some of the naive local bros and they achieve the goal.
I think a lot of these Korean hoes in the AMPs must've married some military dude in Korea or Guam to get their GC.
I heard the going rate on a greencard marriage is 100K now.
Those girls who come down here on a 3 month travel Visa to work bar and are trying to find some sucker to marry them that soon are funny. Unfortunately, their games work on some of the naive local bros and they achieve the goal.
I think a lot of these Korean hoes in the AMPs must've married some military dude in Korea or Guam to get their GC.There are suckers born everyday hehe.
Secret Agent
12-26-12, 00:57
I heard the going rate on a greencard marriage is 100K now.A 100K holy shit! My friend got offered to do it a few years ago from a KBG and it was only 35K that she offered. Good thing he didn't take her offer. Hell, for a 100K cash even I might've done it LOL.
Crouchingtiger
12-26-12, 02:40
Correct me if I am wrong, but is it worth it? You may get 100K, but who is to say she won't get it back being married to you and taking your a$$ to the cleaners in the divorce? Although she can't say anything, neither can you, less you go to jail. Plus you can't just deposit it in the bank. Anything 10K and over gets reported to the Uncle S. Too many 9999 deposit might also send up a red flag to gov officials. So what will you do hide under the mattress where she will find it? Unless you are down on your luck I don't know. Plus what are the chances of ending up with a girl that will take care of you and be cool, even when it is over? If you do have a kid together-guess what child support. Plus once the minimum time was up-one day you come home and everything in the house is gone.
Secret Agent
12-26-12, 03:01
Correct me if I am wrong, but is it worth it? You may get 100K, but who is to say she won't get it back being married to you and taking your a$$ to the cleaners in the divorce? Although she can't say anything, neither can you, less you go to jail. Plus you can't just deposit it in the bank. Anything 10K and over gets reported to the Uncle S. Too many 9999 deposit might also send up a red flag to gov officials. So what will you do hide under the mattress where she will find it? Unless you are down on your luck I don't know. Plus what are the chances of ending up with a girl that will take care of you and be cool, even when it is over? If you do have a kid together-guess what child support. Plus once the minimum time was up-one day you come home and everything in the house is gone.Wow that's sure is a lot of questions! I wasn't being serious but if I was you just talked me out of it heehee.
Niner Whiner
12-26-12, 03:11
Correct me if I am wrong, but is it worth it? You may get 100K, but who is to say she won't get it back being married to you and taking your a$$ to the cleaners in the divorce? Although she can't say anything, neither can you, less you go to jail. Plus you can't just deposit it in the bank. Anything 10K and over gets reported to the Uncle S. Too many 9999 deposit might also send up a red flag to gov officials. So what will you do hide under the mattress where she will find it? Unless you are down on your luck I don't know. Plus what are the chances of ending up with a girl that will take care of you and be cool, even when it is over? If you do have a kid together-guess what child support. Plus once the minimum time was up-one day you come home and everything in the house is gone.No matter how much they offer you, you won't get the whole amount lump sum.
You'll be given a small fraction first year. And if you're lucky they will pay year after year, but most cases they won't.
What are you going to do if they don't pay?
You stuck in that marriage for 5 years.
And it's not like the girl will be coming home everyday to be with you and cook and have sex with you. She there to work-can you accept the jealousy of having dudes coming home with her? Or that there will be days and even weeks when she doesn't come home?
Oh, there's still the marriage licensing, ceremony, proof of marital status, and divorce that you will have to pay. And what if she gets pregnant?
And not necessarily with YOUR baby?
She can and will access your credit, bring other family members-what if she's already married with children?
Puinsai808
12-26-12, 04:04
Correct me if I am wrong, but is it worth it? You may get 100K, but who is to say she won't get it back being married to you and taking your a$$ to the cleaners in the divorce? Although she can't say anything, neither can you, less you go to jail. Plus you can't just deposit it in the bank. Anything 10K and over gets reported to the Uncle S. Too many 9999 deposit might also send up a red flag to gov officials. So what will you do hide under the mattress where she will find it? Unless you are down on your luck I don't know. Plus what are the chances of ending up with a girl that will take care of you and be cool, even when it is over? If you do have a kid together-guess what child support. Plus once the minimum time was up-one day you come home and everything in the house is gone.You can prenup or do whatever but Bruddah CT is right. Get one kid and all pau. The kid is SOP. That's why you see the Chinese / Thai / Viet / Filipino and Koreans all have at least one kid with some young military dude. They have it down to the day. My friends make pools on when their coworker's old lady going dig. LOL.
Also, banks don't just look for the magic $9, 999 or the $4, 999. They have complex computer routines which scan for "structuring" of deposits. Plus, you wouldn't put the money into the bank after you were married. It becomes a marital asset for her to take back later for the care of the child.
Take the cash, spend it all on stupid crap, just like they do.
I heard the going rate on a greencard marriage is 100K now.
Those girls who come down here on a 3 month travel Visa to work bar and are trying to find some sucker to marry them that soon are funny. Unfortunately, their games work on some of the naive local bros and they achieve the goal.
I think a lot of these Korean hoes in the AMPs must've married some military dude in Korea or Guam to get their GC.Most of them actually don't have green cards. Korea and the US have mutual agreements on visitation. Officially the US, Japan and ROK can visit eachothers country with a passport without a visa. The stipulation is that its 'not supposed' to exceed 90 days. Anything more than 90 days and you are 'supposed' to get a visa. It's not really enforced though in the US. In ROK as a US Citizen, US State Dept will give you to 120 days and normally they will come looking for you, in a way. In Hawaii, Guam or even CONUS, Koreans get away with it all the time, some for years. I did DETs to Guam sans being stationed there, and there were KBGs and Korean AMP girls that had been there for 10 years. 1 of the most famous AMPs on Guam, at least at that time early 2000s, the Mama had been there illegally for 25 years. She regularly serviced patrons, I partook many times and she was very open about it. On the mainland, AMPs get around it by shifting the girls around regionally. In Hawaii, no one cares unless there is some other reason to dig they will get away with it.
In my experience, be it on Guam, Yokosuka (some of the best Korean AMP starlets around) or here on Oahu Korean girls don't seem to be beating down Squids for marriage too often let alone anyone else. And thats saying alot because I will admit I tried with 2 or 3 in Yokosuka and 1 on Guam. I went hard for the one on Guam, a big titted Kgirl named Mimi. I would have did it for free for her and I would have willfully been her victim if she let me. No matter how much I did I was always shutdown. And my friends experiences were always the same. I've gotten a little more play recently with a Kgirl, I won't say the name or the venue other than she is fairly popular. I asked her out many times to meet off premises. The best I've gotten was a meet at Ala Moana. If she was eager to lock my sailor ass down for a greencard she has had plenty of opportunity.
Idusixtyning
12-26-12, 09:04
I had a close call about 10 years ago. Had a golf tournament on Maui then hit the KB bars in Wailuku a couple of nights. Exchanged numbers with a pretty hot looking KB girl. About a month after, she called me and asked if I could show her around Oahu for a weekend (and obviously stay at my place). I agreed to. So I picked her up at the airport and showed her around. On the first night, I set her up in a second bedroom because I was not thinking of having sex with her and getting things complicated. Well, she shows up in my room wearing see through lingerie. She pretty much hops on my bed and spreads her legs asking me to fuk her. She didn't even ask for or have a condom. My thinking head prevailed and I got a condom to use every time we had sex. She was a screamer too. So when the weekend was over, I dropped her off at the airport and said goodbye.
Well, about 6 months later she calls and is asking for advice. Apparently she married a dude on Maui and he was seeking a divorce or an annulment. She was afraid of having to go back to Korea. I told her to tell the judge that she might be pregnant to stall things and get a lawyer meanwhile. She called a few months later and said that she had to go back to court and did not get a lawyer. Didn't hear from her after that. Anyways, good thing I used condoms with her. If she would have gotten pregnant from me, it would have been a nightmare.
I had a close call about 10 years ago. Had a golf tournament on Maui then hit the KB bars in Wailuku a couple of nights. Exchanged numbers with a pretty hot looking KB girl. About a month after, she called me and asked if I could show her around Oahu for a weekend (and obviously stay at my place). I agreed to. So I picked her up at the airport and showed her around. On the first night, I set her up in a second bedroom because I was not thinking of having sex with her and getting things complicated. Well, she shows up in my room wearing see through lingerie. She pretty much hops on my bed and spreads her legs asking me to fuk her. She didn't even ask for or have a condom. My thinking head prevailed and I got a condom to use every time we had sex. She was a screamer too. So when the weekend was over, I dropped her off at the airport and said goodbye.
Well, about 6 months later she calls and is asking for advice. Apparently she married a dude on Maui and he was seeking a divorce or an annulment. She was afraid of having to go back to Korea. I told her to tell the judge that she might be pregnant to stall things and get a lawyer meanwhile. She called a few months later and said that she had to go back to court and did not get a lawyer. Didn't hear from her after that. Anyways, good thing I used condoms with her. If she would have gotten pregnant from me, it would have been a nightmare.The one I'm courting right now, I honestly wouldn't care. Last time I saw her she was hinting at letting me bring her back to my place. I would gladly knock her up given the opportunity. If not just to come back here and brag. Hehe. I could be dreaming but its not a complete fantasy.
I hooked up with a Filipina at Pipeline about 6 years ago. She was here from PI visiting her grandma. I picked her up at her place for one encounter. When I dropped her back off, the grandma told me I needed to hurry up and get her pregnant. It was at that moment I caught on to what she was trying to do. I was using condoms but she was always trying to get me not to. After about 3 months of that I was deploying so I moved out of my place and on to the ship. The night before I left I stayed with her at grandma's. For some reason I decided not go for the condom in the wallet and we went at it on the couch. When I was getting ready to bust I started having visions of misery living in a house with all her family and pulled out. About an hour before I was supposed to wakeup she woke me up with some wake up sex. She was riding and didn't stop until I busted in her. She had a big smile on her face. About 45 days later, I got an email from her stating she was pregnant. I didn't reply. About a month later the Command Master Chief came barking at me that a chick had gone to family services to contact the command about a paternity claim. I sucked it up and began accepting it. One of the ombudsman wives took to helping her out. Started sending emails with pictures of her belly of which there wasnt any. I started asking the wife if the girl was going to appts at Tripler like she was supposed to. She said she was dropping her off. I asked her to go with her for the next one. So came the next appt and the wife insisted on going with her and my little filipina confessed. Luckily I had dragged out giving money or power of attorney and that was that. She went back to PI before I got back. When I got back she was calling me 3 or 4 times a day.
After reading all of these posts and currently being in a crap ass marriage, I wish I were single. I would marry a KBG for $$. Damn I wish I were still single. Hahaha
Captin Crunch
12-26-12, 18:33
After reading all of these posts and currently being in a crap ass marriage, I wish I were single. I would marry a KBG for $$. Damn I wish I were still single. HahahaDats why I remain a single unattached fellow.
Crouchingtiger
12-26-12, 21:34
Most of them actually don't have green cards. Korea and the US have mutual agreements on visitation. Officially the US, Japan and ROK can visit eachothers country with a passport without a visa. The stipulation is that its 'not supposed' to exceed 90 days. Anything more than 90 days and you are 'supposed' to get a visa. It's not really enforced though in the US. In ROK as a US Citizen, US State Dept will give you to 120 days and normally they will come looking for you, in a way. In Hawaii, Guam or even CONUS, Koreans get away with it all the time, some for years. I did DETs to Guam sans being stationed there, and there were KBGs and Korean AMP girls that had been there for 10 years. 1 of the most famous AMPs on Guam, at least at that time early 2000s, the Mama had been there illegally for 25 years. She regularly serviced patrons, I partook many times and she was very open about it. On the mainland, AMPs get around it by shifting the girls around regionally. In Hawaii, no one cares unless there is some other reason to dig they will get away with it.
In my experience, be it on Guam, Yokosuka (some of the best Korean AMP starlets around) or here on Oahu Korean girls don't seem to be beating down Squids for marriage too often let alone anyone else. And thats saying alot because I will admit I tried with 2 or 3 in Yokosuka and 1 on Guam. I went hard for the one on Guam, a big titted Kgirl named Mimi. I would have did it for free for her and I would have willfully been her victim if she let me. No matter how much I did I was always shutdown. And my friends experiences were always the same. I've gotten a little more play recently with a Kgirl, I won't say the name or the venue other than she is fairly popular. I asked her out many times to meet off premises. The best I've gotten was a meet at Ala Moana. If she was eager to lock my sailor ass down for a greencard she has had plenty of opportunity.Depends on the girl does she want to leave the country and bring her family for a new life, or does she want to make some bucks and go back home later. Plus, they not going after some guy that knows better and wants to use them, they want the dumb smuck they can control like a dumb young soldier boy.
Crouchingtiger
12-26-12, 21:43
Take the cash, spend it all on stupid crap, just like they do.Don't mean a thing, you broke and have kid, still got to forkover for child support and alimony. Prenup not a guarentee, unless you got kala for better lawyers than her. If you say no alimony she can support herself cause she work bar (or even AMP). Did she pay taxes? If not and you knew, you going jail, you say it was a marriage for money, again you going jail for fraud etc.
Stay single fk the hoes with the money you save. Have fun. Really want a kid, get a surrogate. Want a family find the girl who is real and not a rob.
This happened years ago when green cards were necessary. *
I had a Canadian friend and a New Zealand Samoan friend and I introduced them. I didn't know whether they had green cards or not and wasn't interested. Well, they "fell in love" and got married pretty fast. It was only after they got married that they found out neither had a card and the reason for the marriage was to get one. *
Member #4374
01-01-13, 23:06
These K-girls really want the greencard because it's an unlimited pass to pursue the milk and honey in America. Because if a bargirl here on a 3-month travel Visa gets busted by the Liquor Commission she'll get shipped back to Korea and banned from the USA for life. (Same with the AMP girls). And also big fines for the mama-san who got no greencard girls working in their establishment.
Hey any girls need green card we can work something out I'm not so if thats important anymore.
How come immigration not check when kbg gets married they not check out where they work cause if they work bar you know they only married for card.
Zelgadis21
03-07-13, 21:21
How come immigration not check when kbg gets married they not check out where they work cause if they work bar you know they only married for card.Where she works doesn't really matter, I believe you would have to show immigration proof of support. Basically, be able to support her for a year. Also, if you think about any of the visas, they will most likely have to move to America. I. E no employment in America. In terms of kbg, they are already in America and you would have meet them at work. I'm sure they can write hostess or waitress when applying. The government can't charge a person with fraud just by where she works.
Where she works doesn't really matter, I believe you would have to show immigration proof of support. Basically, be able to support her for a year. Also, if you think about any of the visas, they will most likely have to move to America. I. E no employment in America. In terms of kbg, they are already in America and you would have meet them at work. I'm sure they can write hostess or waitress when applying. The government can't charge a person with fraud just by where she works.Lots of the new bar girls are here on tourist or student visas until they can get a green card. Tourist visas do not allow the person to work, and a student visa only allows you to work in your field of study. So if a KBG has one of these visas, they better not write down anything regarding employment.
How long once kbg married to get green card? How efficient is immigration?
How long once kbg married to get green card? How efficient is immigration?I heard this kbg tell me she is staying longer illegal. I wonder how can they do that with out getting deported. And how long can they hide.
I heard this kbg tell me she is staying longer illegal. I wonder how can they do that with out getting deported. And how long can they hide.Don't leave the country.
These K-girls really want the greencard because it's an unlimited pass to pursue the milk and honey in America. Because if a bargirl here on a 3-month travel Visa gets busted by the Liquor Commission she'll get shipped back to Korea and banned from the USA for life. (Same with the AMP girls). And also big fines for the mama-san who got no greencard girls working in their establishment.A lot of these K girls aren't even employed by these buy me drinky bars. They don't get no benefits, hourly or work schedule. They just go down when they feel like it and strictly live off of the tips from lonely men that want to buy them drinks and then some!
YG
I heard this kbg tell me she is staying longer illegal. I wonder how can they do that with out getting deported. And how long can they hide.Just don't get in trouble with the law. Can you imagine how quiet Waiks, Chinatown, and Makiki will be if there was a crackdown gestapo style. Oahu would start looking like the second Maui.
Member #4374
04-11-13, 10:07
A lot of these K girls aren't even employed by these buy me drinky bars. They don't get no benefits, hourly or work schedule. They just go down when they feel like it and strictly live off of the tips from lonely men that want to buy them drinks and then some!
YGThe Ellie's mama provides health insurance for the ladies who work at her bar.
I'm sure once they get the GC, scabbing health insurance would be no problem for any bargirl in Hawaii who is without.
The Ellie's mama provides health insurance for the ladies who work at her bar.
I'm sure once they get the GC, scabbing health insurance would be no problem for any bargirl in Hawaii who is without.I believe only a handful of girls are actually employed through the bar. They would need to fill several requirements to be qualify.
Don't leave the country.+1, and don't get in trouble with LE.
A lot of these K girls aren't even employed by these buy me drinky bars. They don't get no benefits, hourly or work schedule. They just go down when they feel like it and strictly live off of the tips from lonely men that want to buy them drinks and then some!
YGYou go or used to go KBs and got first hand knowledge on this subject bro? Just curious.
A lot of these K girls aren't even employed by these buy me drinky bars. They don't get no benefits, hourly or work schedule. They just go down when they feel like it and strictly live off of the tips from lonely men that want to buy them drinks and then some!
YGYep, Some work at restaurant and get paid under the table and is illegal, just like some of the bars that still served customer after they close there doors and after two o'clock places like Little Seoul is were they served soju or other liquor in the coffee mug or tea kettle.
I recalled 2 girls some many years ago, whom I thought were students themselves and I didn't think twice about it but I did snoop their caller ID and was some haole guys name. Didn't think nothing of it, but now I realized I ran into one of them chatted brief and left, but what I got from it is she is single or so I thought. The guys name is in Cali, or San Fran. Makes me wonder if she did a GC with some gay dude or they both did, because I inquired about her friend and just said has a bf here WTF. 7 years now and not in school, I can only go hmmmmmm.
Member #4374
04-12-13, 03:15
Maybe he speaks Korean language to them and learns the inner thoughts of a KBG's mind.
Braddahs,
I hope all of you are alive and well. Still bangin them ho's like there's no tomorrow!
Got some questions for you guys;
Any braddahs married to a K, J, F girl? Brought her here to get married and live in Hawaii?
I finally got to use my passport; met this cool down to earth Filipina; I getting old bros, don't want to not be able to play with my kids, you know what I'm saying? Anyways, I been busting my brain reading up on this K-1 VISA and have friends, coworkers, acquaintances who all say the K-1 is way FASTER and EASIER to bring the girl here instead of getting married overseas.
If anybody can just give me straight forward answers on what I got to do to bring her here, that'd be great. From what I was told, I don't have anything major to prove; I'm the USA citizen; its her who got to prove she's not a criminal with a sour record.
I've heard so many horror stories, and even local people talking bad about Filipinas and their freedom ticket. I refuse to believe that this girl I met is like this.
Any insight appreciated. If you don't feel comfortable posting here, by all means, PM me.
Mahalo braddahs,
Braddah H
Spartacus77
07-20-13, 05:18
Braddahs,
I hope all of you are alive and well. Still bangin them ho's like there's no tomorrow!
Got some questions for you guys;
Any braddahs married to a K, J, F girl? Brought her here to get married and live in Hawaii?
I finally got to use my passport; met this cool down to earth Filipina; I getting old bros, don't want to not be able to play with my kids, you know what I'm saying? Anyways, I been busting my brain reading up on this K-1 VISA and have friends, coworkers, acquaintances who all say the K-1 is way FASTER and EASIER to bring the girl here instead of getting married overseas.
If anybody can just give me straight forward answers on what I got to do to bring her here, that'd be great. From what I was told, I don't have anything major to prove; I'm the USA citizen; its her who got to prove she's not a criminal with a sour record.
I've heard so many horror stories, and even local people talking bad about Filipinas and their freedom ticket. I refuse to believe that this girl I met is like this.
Any insight appreciated. If you don't feel comfortable posting here, by all means, PM me.
Mahalo braddahs,
Braddah HHinode,
It's may be easier to bring your girl here on a tourist visa, get married here in the US, and then apply for a change of immigration status from visitor to permanent resident. The processing time is the same, but at least she will be here with you, rather than waiting in Manila for her application to clear. Whatever visa you choose, the process can take up to 8 to 10 months. If you marry here in Hawaii, she basically has to wait for her green card before she can do anything. No traveling out of country, no getting a job, just hanging out for eight months. Her job will be to provide you sex, because no earning money legally without that work-visa. Check with an immigration attorney. They usually will answer visa questions for free or for a nominal fee. I'm not sure if the Philippines is one of those "red-flag" countries (high level of immigration fraud).
I too have heard of some horror stories on filipina girls getting their "freedom-ticket." Be advised, once she gets a temporary greencard, you will be blissfully married for two years. After that she can apply for permanent status and can leave you at anytime. Better be nice, because that's when the horror stories start.
Thanks for the General Info.
My Situation;
My Provider is already here in the USA She has a valid passport from her country from what I know. Her status however seems to be not Legal. (so she tells me). She plans on Marrying her friend's boyfriend so she can have legal status here. If she's here illegally and Marries a USA Citizen, will she now become legal USA Citizen? If her friend's boyfriend doesn't go through, I thought of Marrying her myself so she can stay here. She is such an Awesome Provider I'd hate for her to get Deported. Immigration doesn't have her in their Radar, so there's nothing impending on her as of now. I'm just asking what should she do. Thanks.
LittleBoto
07-20-13, 10:40
Hinode,
It's may be easier to bring your girl here on a tourist visa, get married here in the US, and then apply for a change of immigration status from visitor to permanent resident. The processing time is the same, but at least she will be here with you, rather than waiting in Manila for her application to clear. Whatever visa you choose, the process can take up to 8 to 10 months. If you marry here in Hawaii, she basically has to wait for her green card before she can do anything. No traveling out of country, no getting a job, just hanging out for eight months. Her job will be to provide you sex, because no earning money legally without that work-visa. Check with an immigration attorney. They usually will answer visa questions for free or for a nominal fee. I'm not sure if the Philippines is one of those "red-flag" countries (high level of immigration fraud).
I too have heard of some horror stories on filipina girls getting their "freedom-ticket." Be advised, once she gets a temporary greencard, you will be blissfully married for two years. After that she can apply for permanent status and can leave you at anytime. Better be nice, because that's when the horror stories start.Tourist visa is very hard for most Filipinas because they have to be able to show that they do not intend to stay in the US. I. E. A lot of wealth or a business they need to run, etc.
Idusixtyning
07-20-13, 12:46
Braddahs,
I hope all of you are alive and well. Still bangin them ho's like there's no tomorrow!
Got some questions for you guys;
Any braddahs married to a K, J, F girl? Brought her here to get married and live in Hawaii?
I finally got to use my passport; met this cool down to earth Filipina; I getting old bros, don't want to not be able to play with my kids, you know what I'm saying? Anyways, I been busting my brain reading up on this K-1 VISA and have friends, coworkers, acquaintances who all say the K-1 is way FASTER and EASIER to bring the girl here instead of getting married overseas.
If anybody can just give me straight forward answers on what I got to do to bring her here, that'd be great. From what I was told, I don't have anything major to prove; I'm the USA citizen; its her who got to prove she's not a criminal with a sour record.
I've heard so many horror stories, and even local people talking bad about Filipinas and their freedom ticket. I refuse to believe that this girl I met is like this.
Any insight appreciated. If you don't feel comfortable posting here, by all means, PM me.
Mahalo braddahs,
Braddah HIt is easier if she were here first. Plus you get benefits for every day both of you wait. Just some advice and warning. Do a prenup. Keep real estate and financial accounts under your name, not joint. Don't give her access to major financial accounts or credit. I've heard of stories where after the 2 years is up, the wife will disappear with money drained from bank accounts and the husband is stuck. If you can't find her, you can't get a divorce. And you will be liable for any debt she incurs and even medical costs. So you better be sure about your vetting.
What you really should do is make it an extended courtship and do a few extended trips over there before pulling the trigger. Spend a lot of time with her and try to live with her on a 24 hours basis to really find out about her. Spend time with her family and relatives as that might tell you some things. See what kind of friends she has. Yeah, means you will have to spend some money but the investment is worth it for what you're getting into.
It is easier if she were here first. Plus you get benefits for every day both of you wait. Just some advice and warning. Do a prenup. Keep real estate and financial accounts under your name, not joint. Don't give her access to major financial accounts or credit. I've heard of stories where after the 2 years is up, the wife will disappear with money drained from bank accounts and the husband is stuck. If you can't find her, you can't get a divorce. And you will be liable for any debt she incurs and even medical costs. So you better be sure about your vetting.
What you really should do is make it an extended courtship and do a few extended trips over there before pulling the trigger. Spend a lot of time with her and try to live with her on a 24 hours basis to really find out about her. Spend time with her family and relatives as that might tell you some things. See what kind of friends she has. Yeah, means you will have to spend some money but the investment is worth it for what you're getting into.I agree 100 percent. It doesn't matter if she is from overseas or here. Just remember its a financial contract you are making. If I did it again. I would have given most of my money to my dad before I got married. It's hard to put the emotions aside but it would be best if you could hold off for a 1-2 years and really get to know her. If she leaves you because you didn't want to marry her right away then she wasn't the one and you saved yourself a lot of heartbreak, time, and money. I hope everything works out for you. By the way, my so came here on a tourist visa and then we got married while she was here. I used a lawyer, it was around $1, 650. She waited about 6 months until she got her temp green card.
Braddahs,
I hope all of you are alive and well. Still bangin them ho's like there's no tomorrow!
Got some questions for you guys;
Any braddahs married to a K, J, F girl? Brought her here to get married and live in Hawaii?
I finally got to use my passport; met this cool down to earth Filipina; I getting old bros, don't want to not be able to play with my kids, you know what I'm saying?
I've heard so many horror stories, and even local people talking bad about Filipinas and their freedom ticket. I refuse to believe that this girl I met is like this.
Any insight appreciated. If you don't feel comfortable posting here, by all means, PM me.
Mahalo braddahs,
Braddah HHey, my older brother married and divorced a Filipino one that he regrets even to this day. One month before the wedding he found out she was pregnant from some other guy, but got a abortion, he should have dropped that piece of st. But had second thoughts and went ahead with the marriage.
After a year, soon she "convinced" him to have her brother move in the house, then later followed with her younger cousin. Soon enough that whole fricking herd began living in his house. Finally when she became a bonifide USA CITIZEN, she again started fooling around (and probably was spreading her legs for a long time). Then they divorced, he ended up pay alimony for her and two kids, barely had enough to live by.
I say brudda, think with your big head and not the one below. Bang her while you can and hire a private investigator before signing any papers. You may regret it big time after being taken to the cleaners.
On my trips to PI and communicating with numerous pinays up in PI, there's a number of them involved in a "Love Triangle" Even the pinay girls I chat with, talk to and met say this. They are married to someone but, having some dramas with the SO and they have another local BF on the side or some foreigner BF. The scary thing is while you try to establish a long distance relationship with the girl, you don't know what she's doing and who she's seeing while you're down here and she's up there. So, while you being Mr faithful / honest down here while she's up there, she could be seeing other guys or already be involved with a guy or several guys.
It will be tough to keep that constant communication going. There's a number of them who despite having a BF or husband, they'll meet up with a foreigner and sleep with the guy. A number of these girls go to the internet cafe and chat with foreigners. They most likely have a Facebook page. Pinay girls, they can play some major mind games and they not even working in a hostess bar. There are good ones out there and they seem pretty sweet, have a good heart and not money hungry type but, they can lack common sense where you need to always hold their hand. You want the girl to be able to think on her own and be level headed.
OK Braddahs.
Seems I need to be a little more in depth in my story. And of course, thank you all- for your responses.
First off, I put an ad out on a website. Over 30+ women responded. They all said the same thing: "You're so handsome! Wow, GWAPO! Pogi Hawaiiano!"
Out of those 30 women: only ONE kept in constant contact. Maybe not everyday, but off and on. 1-2 times a week, etc.
The other 25 or so was a "one and done" deal."Hi, my name is Mary Jean, nice to meet you!" Then never heard from again.
The stars were aligned and for years now, I've bitched on this site about using my passport and finally got the chance to go. I took a huge leap of faith as I went on my trip SOLO; she ensured my safety, that no harm would come to me, friends today say "dude you got some KING SIZED BRASS BALLS to go to a foreign country by yourself on a girls promise."
So after 8-10 months of Skype and what not, finally met her, weather was muggy but not like I cannot handle. Cmon, rep that 96706! Met her bro and sis, took me to the hotel, AC comfort, long story short, banged her with no cover, blasted her every night from the get go, sometimes two times a night, with about a half hour / hour in between. She took it like a champ, but of course, I'm there for her; she even said,"well since you talked about bar girls so much in Angeles City and Burgos St you want to go? Ill take you, if that's what you want." Of course I declined. I haven't had young pussy in so long that it felt warm, snug, and moist. I can tell she hadn't been with a guy in a long time because using my magical skills got her off quick. But she wouldn't let me get her off more than 3x a night, strange. Like, she had enough. And damn I thought all my MILFs in Hawaii were WEAK SAUCE, LOL!
Anyways almost done with my trip, I meet her family. They give me the royal treatment (heard this from other braddahs in Hawaii too) I am revered like a God, she never once asked me for money nor mentioned green card.
At first glance, you'd think she's short, fat, chubby, definitely not a spinner nor sexy nor skinny nor LBFM. Heck she aint even brown. She hates the sun.
So why choose her? Because I went for CUTE instead of STRIPPER material. I went for the down to earth girl I know going take care of me forever. Her parents put tremendous financial pressure on her to produce money. She just quit her job, and I gave her *cough* an undisclosed amount of money to help pay for her mom's hospital bills (colonoscopy) and chemo therapy and her- shots.
I'll delve more, but really really nobody seemed to be able to answer my initial post. She's smart, college graduate, mom is lawyer, dad is LEO in USA. She's not rich; cmon, those who know the PI know that only too well. I just want to get her here ASAP.
Step by step is great, while I continue to research the I-129F and G-325A. All of it seems like a pain in the ass. I competed the 129, but waiting for her passport pic and completed 325 before I take the next step.
Is that $340 filing fee a one time deal only? If my application gets denied, do I have to pay another $340? Or is my chances gone for good?
Braddahs any 411 appreciated.
Much mahalos and have a great weekend bros!
Braddah H
Wow! Hinode, you are one of the last people I would have thought wanted to settle down. Congrats in making that change in your life. Since you put up an ad, it meant you were serious about that. However, just be very careful in everything you do. Filipinos are usually Catholic, so birth control is a no go. Have someone verify what she says about her family (father being a US LEO, mom a lawyer). If the mother were a lawyer, the family should be fairly comfortable financially and wouldn't need to pressure their children to produce. If the father were in the US as a LEO, his salary is huge compared to the PI and is probably sending money back to the family. Some of this story sounds kind of strange.
There is the old joke about marrying one, then having to bring her whole family to the US. It wouldn't be a joke, if it didn't happen a lot. You will need to prove you have sufficient funds to support her while she comes here and lives until she can get her green card. Remember, until she gets her gc, legally, she cannot work.
Just take thing SLOW.
LittleBoto
07-21-13, 03:08
On my trips to PI and communicating with numerous pinays up in PI, there's a number of them involved in a "Love Triangle" Even the pinay girls I chat with, talk to and met say this. They are married to someone but, having some dramas with the SO and they have another local BF on the side or some foreigner BF. The scary thing is while you try to establish a long distance relationship with the girl, you don't know what she's doing and who she's seeing while you're down here and she's up there. So, while you being Mr faithful / honest down here while she's up there, she could be seeing other guys or already be involved with a guy or several guys.
It will be tough to keep that constant communication going. There's a number of them who despite having a BF or husband, they'll meet up with a foreigner and sleep with the guy. A number of these girls go to the internet cafe and chat with foreigners. They most likely have a Facebook page. Pinay girls, they can play some major mind games and they not even working in a hostess bar. There are good ones out there and they seem pretty sweet, have a good heart and not money hungry type but, they can lack common sense where you need to always hold their hand. You want the girl to be able to think on her own and be level headed.There is no divorce in PI, so many mutually separate and begin a new relationship with someone else. Got to be careful about getting into a relationship with those because you can't legally marry someone who is married. Annulments are possible, but depending on the situation, more "bribe" money may be needed, and this can get pretty high.
If the girl has constant access to the internet, I would suspect webcam girl, unless she comes from a family with a lot of money. But I do agree with you that there are many that will fool around and not even think anything is wrong with that. But at the same time, they will theaten to cut off your boto if you fool around on them.
OK Braddahs.
I'll delve more, but really really nobody seemed to be able to answer my initial post. She's smart, college graduate, mom is lawyer, dad is LEO in USA. She's not rich; cmon, those who know the PI know that only too well. I just want to get her here ASAP.Sounds like you got a good one. Her family should be doing alright there so you won't have to worry much about her having to send money home all the time. A co-worker married a pinay and then tried to bring her over here and it took him around 3 years. I almost married two and during those times, my research showed that fiancee visa was the fastest way to get her here. There are many agents in PI that can probably help you and her get everything together to file your visa. They can even help her get a doctor to do her exam, etc.
There's good advice in this thread about being quite cautious on importing a wife from the Philippines. Although I very much like the Philippines and Filipinas, it's important to be realistic about the motivations that economic inequality can produce. A woman who "loves" Joe from America may also "love" Stefan from Germany, Viktor from Sweden, Takumi from Japan, and Wazza from Australia, and be more than willing to accept the first offer of marriage that she receives from any one of them. So, for example, a guy might want to see if his Filipina is willing to immediately provide him with the passwords for her e-mail and social media accounts. If not, she may be hiding some significant facts that she doesn't want him to know.
There's good advice in this thread about being quite cautious on importing a wife from the Philippines. Although I very much like the Philippines and Filipinas, it's important to be realistic about the motivations that economic inequality can produce. .One thing to think about is the Filipino custom of finding some "god-father or god-mother" for their kids. Don't do it, because essentially its an obligation to be financially responsible for their kids. Hell my brother's Filipino wife (when he was married) asked me to be some "god-father" for her kid, I said no way "hell no way".
90 percent of the people I've known that brought a girl from Philippines to marry ended up getting divorced (many of which were my Filipino relatives). With Filipinos in general, both female and male, you wouldn't believe how "normal" it is to have mistress / concubine. Married in the states. 4-5 girlfriends in PI, with kids all over.
The only way I would hook up with a pinay girl is if she look like Alodia (google her guys, she's damn fine)
90 percent of the people I've known that brought a girl from Philippines to marry ended up getting divorced (many of which were my Filipino relatives). With Filipinos in general, both female and male, you wouldn't believe how "normal" it is to have mistress / concubine. Married in the states. 4-5 girlfriends in PI, with kids all over.
The only way I would hook up with a pinay girl is if she look like Alodia (google her guys, she's damn fine) Yeah, E-uyot (screw) the Filipino chick and leave um! They make "innocent" in front of their family and friends, but once in the bedroom, she's all wet down below for some good hammer time.
If the girl has constant access to the internet, I would suspect webcam girl, unless she comes from a family with a lot of money. But I do agree with you that there are many that will fool around and not even think anything is wrong with that. But at the same time, they will theaten to cut off your boto if you fool around on them.Alot of pinay girls / women go online whether at the cafe or at home. Some use fake pictures of models so men can message them because they feel self conscious to post their own photo. They have profiles / accounts on FB, DIA, Friendster, YM, AIM, ICQ and others. They multitask with other men while you chat and do webcam with them. Some girls just want to have online friends with people from around the world, others looking for serious relationship and you got those that go online for financial help & support.
Some girls don't mind meeting up even though they have a SO (local BF / foreign BF / husband). They still willing to meet up on the next trip, hang out and oof. If you upfront with the girl and don't intentionally play with the girls emotions just to get her in the sack, the girl won't mind hanging with you even though she assumes or even knows that you go to those bikini bars and meet other girls because she know lots of foreigners that come to PI do this.
The girls they want to test you and see what type of answer you will come up with when they do question you.
Her: "Do you go to those bars?"
You: "No, I don't go to those places. I haven't been to those places"
Her: "Liar! My friend who work there saw you at one of the bars"
LittleBoto
07-23-13, 11:55
There's good advice in this thread about being quite cautious on importing a wife from the Philippines. Although I very much like the Philippines and Filipinas, it's important to be realistic about the motivations that economic inequality can produce. A woman who "loves" Joe from America may also "love" Stefan from Germany, Viktor from Sweden, Takumi from Japan, and Wazza from Australia, and be more than willing to accept the first offer of marriage that she receives from any one of them. So, for example, a guy might want to see if his Filipina is willing to immediately provide him with the passwords for her e-mail and social media accounts. If not, she may be hiding some significant facts that she doesn't want him to know.It's so crazy that you said that because I was going to marry one pinay and actually found out about her other bf when she gave me her facebook login and he started chatting me up thinking it was her.
It's so crazy that you said that because I was going to marry one pinay and actually found out about her other bf when she gave me her facebook login and he started chatting me up thinking it was her.I would never consider marrying a Filipina. From what I have seen most of them (not all) get all fat and ugly after age 30. Especially after they pop out one or two kids. Then they get lazy and don't take care of their bodies. I have found that the Korean and Japanese girls take much better care of their bodies into old age. I think a lot of it has to do with the food that the two different cultures eat. When I go to the mall I see overweight Filipina girls everywhere. But I rarely see overweight Korean or Japanese girls. Of course this has been my experiences maybe not anyone else.
To the one braddah who PM'ed me regarding the cost of bringing his (your) Pinay to Hawaii, can you please PM me again? I guess I deleted your PM in a drunken stupor! I wanted to ask you for more info.
And to the rest of the braddahs;.
The time is coming near, and a decision must be made. Close friends, good acquaintances, people who care about me and my well being, wish me nothing but the best of luck with my relationship.
I appreciate all comments, whether you drink Haterade or not.
Now while banging Monica for the next 30 years may seem appealing and a wonderful fantasy, that's not what I want for the rest of my life. She would be like, 80 years old then. (GILF status.)
Just to be on the safe side, I've listened to some close friends and their advice. I respect their opinions. I'm thinking now of getting a prenuptial agreement. I'm asking if anyone has any info on this. What is required? A lawyer? Just one? Or two, 1 for each to represent us both? Affidavit? Notary? Can I do a prenup for free? Just have her and I both sign it?
Seniors with superior wisdom and grand knowledge, please PM me.
Mahalo in advance.
H.
To the one braddah who PM'ed me regarding the cost of bringing his (your) Pinay to Hawaii, can you please PM me again? I guess I deleted your PM in a drunken stupor! I wanted to ask you for more info.
And to the rest of the braddahs;.
The time is coming near, and a decision must be made. Close friends, good acquaintances, people who care about me and my well being, wish me nothing but the best of luck with my relationship.
I appreciate all comments, whether you drink Haterade or not.
Now while banging Monica for the next 30 years may seem appealing and a wonderful fantasy, that's not what I want for the rest of my life. She would be like, 80 years old then. (GILF status.)
Just to be on the safe side, I've listened to some close friends and their advice. I respect their opinions. I'm thinking now of getting a prenuptial agreement. I'm asking if anyone has any info on this. What is required? A lawyer? Just one? Or two, 1 for each to represent us both? Affidavit? Notary? Can I do a prenup for free? Just have her and I both sign it?
Seniors with superior wisdom and grand knowledge, please PM me.
Mahalo in advance.
H.Brother Hinode,
Here's some info on how effective / ineffective prenups are. It also offers you an alternative. Hope you find it informative.
http://irrevocable-trust.ultratrust.com/irrevocable-trust-vs-prenuptial-agreement.html
Been making good friends with a regular I see to take care of my stiffs. The conversation led to Green cards and marriage, and for some reason said her friend's daughter looking to become a citizen. Man, the money offered was interesting.
I met this girl she said she been waiting long time for green card. Why does it take so long? I'm talking about years.
Doublemint
09-16-16, 07:43
A few days ago, actress Nicole Byer was on Conan O'brien's talk show and she said she got married to an Indian guy, who wanted a green card, for money. (She said she received half the amount they agreed on, then divorced.) What is the statute of limitations on fake marriage like? I don't think she doesn't understand how serious the crime she committed. I was like " holly shit!! " when I was watching the show, but so far, I haven't heard any news of her getting arrested. DHS should go after her, instead of harassing AMP mama sans.
See for yourself.
http://teamcoco.com/video/nicole-buyer-married-for-money?playlist=x;eyJ0eXBlIjoicmVjZW50IiwiaWQiOm51bGx9
RiverRat22
09-16-16, 13:00
A few days ago, actress Nicole Byer was on Conan O'brien's talk show and she said she got married to an Indian guy, who wanted a green card, for money. (She said she received half the amount they agreed on, then divorced.) What is the statute of limitations on fake marriage like? I don't think she doesn't understand how serious the crime she committed. I was like " holly shit!! " when I was watching the show, but so far, I haven't heard any news of her getting arrested. DHS should go after her, instead of harassing AMP mama sans.
See for yourself.
http://teamcoco.com/video/nicole-buyer-married-for-money?playlist=x;eyJ0eXBlIjoicmVjZW50IiwiaWQiOm51bGx9SOL on Green Card Fraud, like with most Immigration Fraud, is 5 years. Prosecution is very rare in any case. Investigations and Questioning that exposes fraud usually doesn't end with prosecution. A great deal of 'The Benefit of the Doubt' is given in most cases. Only with significant cause can they say its fraud. 99 out of 100 cases has to be gone forward with simply because there is no probable cause. As far as I know there is no vehicle for INS to go after anyone after the fact, regardless if its within the SOL.
A few days ago, actress Nicole Byer was on Conan O'brien's talk show and she said she got married to an Indian guy, who wanted a green card, for money. (She said she received half the amount they agreed on, then divorced.) What is the statute of limitations on fake marriage like? I don't think she doesn't understand how serious the crime she committed. I was like " holly shit!! " when I was watching the show, but so far, I haven't heard any news of her getting arrested. DHS should go after her, instead of harassing AMP mama sans.
See for yourself.
http://teamcoco.com/video/nicole-buyer-married-for-money?playlist=x;eyJ0eXBlIjoicmVjZW50IiwiaWQiOm51bGx9She looks like easily 250 lbs and surprised it did not raise a red flag when she applied for marriage to some skinny foreign Indian guy?
Does anyone have any experience with marrying a girl on a tourist visa? Was it scam?
Does anyone have any experience with marrying a girl on a tourist visa? Was it scam?I would be cautious. How long have you known her for? Where and how did you two meet?
I would be cautious. How long have you known her for? Where and how did you two meet?Just met a few weeks ago. Met through a friend. She immediately started hitting on me. She's on a visa, want to be married asap. I want to take it slow
Just met a few weeks ago. Met through a friend. She immediately started hitting on me. She's on a visa, want to be married asap. I want to take it slowBe careful, there is no need to rush into it. US Customs Immigration / Homeland Security will intervene and you'll both be assigned an investigator. If everything clears and they believe this isn't a green card marriage, the likely hood of her divorcing you is sku high.
Does anyone have any experience with marrying a girl on a tourist visa? Was it scam?For 20,30 up front, plus bennies, and an written agreement by a lawyer, good luck. always can revise the the agreement if it works out.
Bangkolulu
03-06-23, 19:49
Does anyone have any experience with marrying a girl on a tourist visa? Was it scam?No experience, however tons of valuable information can be had at https://www.visajourney.com/.
SnatchThat
03-06-23, 19:59
Does anyone have any experience with marrying a girl on a tourist visa? Was it scam?So get her pregnant and until the baby is born you will then get married. Here is why. If an American woman loves a foreigner that is exactly the same scenario but gender roles obviously make things a little different. Impregnate her, if you can't then there is your answer.
ClaraForever
03-06-23, 21:58
So get her pregnant and until the baby is born you will then get married. Here is why. If an American woman loves a foreigner that is exactly the same scenario but gender roles obviously make things a little different. Impregnate her, if you can't then there is your answer.If she is AMP girl and had record of I'd checkup at suspicious location, getting pregnant till abortion is not possible is must-get.
Unless he is ok being asked whether his wife is suspicious prostitutes and has record of being caught at brothel officially.
TrialnError
03-19-23, 17:39
Does anyone have any experience with marrying a girl on a tourist visa? Was it scam?So how's things with the girl? Still going to marry her? Or is it a scam?
SnatchThat
03-20-23, 07:07
If she is AMP girl and had record of I'd checkup at suspicious location, getting pregnant till abortion is not possible is must-get.
Unless he is ok being asked whether his wife is suspicious prostitutes and has record of being caught at brothel officially.You're saying that if a girl on a tourist visa is serious about marriage and I said impregnate her to see how serious she really is then you have to understand that if she gets pregnant she still flies back to her country of origin due to her tourist visa being usually 3 or 6 months at a time while in the US. What does an AMP matter?
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