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Chase Star
08-20-08, 07:47
Just to let you know, I will be meeting them this Friday both to review them. I txt'd them today back and forth from my 1 number I have, and they know they are going to get reviewed. Just not when. When I meet them on Friday, it wil lbe from my other number so to not biast the review. If you want to wait till then, I should have a review up Friday evening or sat morning.Why should we wait for your review? I'll try to make an appointment with them for Friday too. They already knew they were going to be reviewed and now, if they read this forum, know it will be on Friday. So they'll probably be on their best behavior all week and now maybe even especially good behavior on Friday. If anyone else meets them that day they'll now benefit from the fact that Jena and Alisha will think they might be you. Way to go! I'm not sure however if that is the best way of finding out what a typical session would be like for the rest of us at other times.
BTW, what do you do to prevent them from being able to recognize your voice when you call back using your other number. Its hard to prevent any chance that the review session will be free of taint as long as you let them know in advance at all that they're about to be reviewed by someone.
No offense meant, bro, cuz I think what you're trying to do is great. You provide what is probably the closest thing to an objective unvarnished reviewing system that we've got. I just think that the process that you just described could probably be refined a bit more. Why give them any advanced warning when they'll be reviewed or that they'll be reviewed at all?
Just to let you know, I will be meeting them this Friday both to review them. I txt'd them today back and forth from my 1 number I have, and they know they are going to get reviewed. Just not when. When I meet them on Friday, it wil lbe from my other number so to not biast the review. If you want to wait till then, I should have a review up Friday evening or sat morning.
I'm not quite sure what to think of your site? Maybe it started out to be legit. All of the notification that they are being reviewed sounds like you DO want special attention more than a fair evaluation. As for the results. Why are most like a fiction novel rather than telling people what they want to know? I notice now beautiful Anna pops up first from a review long ago. I have been wanting to know for a long time what the results of that review are? You talked to her on the phone to base your review. My experience is that does not mean squat. You said you were going to see her soon and elaborate. You did not, but just now use her picture. I've read elsewhere that she sorta sucks. How valid are your claims?
Member #4558
08-20-08, 17:48
I'm not quite sure what to think of your site? Maybe it started out to be legit. All of the notification that they are being reviewed sounds like you DO want special attention more than a fair evaluation. As for the results. Why are most like a fiction novel rather than telling people what they want to know? I notice now beautiful Anna pops up first from a review long ago. I have been wanting to know for a long time what the results of that review are? You talked to her on the phone to base your review. My experience is that does not mean squat. You said you were going to see her soon and elaborate. You did not, but just now use her picture. I've read elsewhere that she sorta sucks. How valid are your claims?
I wonder the same thing. There was a girl who got glowing reviews for one of those stupid "dreams" and when I discovered she had ter reviews, I took a look at them. They were just the opposite, pretty bad reviews. I guess dream central is an ok site but I don't put much faith in what is written there.
Chase Star
08-21-08, 07:50
I'm not quite sure what to think of your site? Maybe it started out to be legit. All of the notification that they are being reviewed sounds like you DO want special attention more than a fair evaluation. As for the results. Why are most like a fiction novel rather than telling people what they want to know? I notice now beautiful Anna pops up first from a review long ago. I have been wanting to know for a long time what the results of that review are? You talked to her on the phone to base your review. My experience is that does not mean squat. You said you were going to see her soon and elaborate. You did not, but just now use her picture. I've read elsewhere that she sorta sucks. How valid are your claims?I think you might be right. The site probably started out right and with good intentions, motivated by the serious lack of reliable reviews elsewhere on CL itself, TER and even here. HOWEVER, I think as the site established a following and influence, and the resulting "power" that brought to Tampa Reviewer, that power may have corrupted him. And I think it MAY go well BEYOND a simple flaw in his process. Some providers have complained about shakedowns. Of course, that might just be resentment and excuses for their getting bad reviews, but similar reports have been coming from other quarters, most noticibly from SirSickAlot. So, is there really more going on here than meets the eye?
Let's think about that. Suddenly, providers are contacting him, anxiously wanting to be reviewed. That could start any guy thinking when they HAD been shelling out $200 a pop to review all those girls. After all, from HIS perspective, he's putting all this "work" into his blog, the girls are profiting from his reviews (or not), why shouldn't he get "something" more out of it to help defray all his "expenses"? That may be HIS perspective, but what he has to remember is that anything that he does that might bias his reporting defeats the original (or at least purported) purpose of his site. Even if he THINKS he is still being honest in his reviews, he should also be completely honest with US and be up front about anything that might shade his "opinions".
Is this what has happened with his site. I honestly don't know. But now his status seems even more suspect and "like a fiction novel" since ALL of his posts here have suddenly been pulled shortly after I pointed out the problems with his methods. Only the quotes by myself and others remain to prove he was ever here. WTF is up with that?
R Consultant
08-21-08, 08:37
I have noticed that also. You are completely right he should be straight with us since we encourage that between everyone. This a site to share among us to keep us out of harms way and getting ripped off.
Hopefully he reads this and realizes that he should either come straight and lets move on and uphold his name or just move on.
Happy Hunting..
I think you might be right. The site probably started out right and with good intentions, motivated by the serious lack of reliable reviews elsewhere on CL itself, TER and even here. HOWEVER, I think as the site established a following and influence, and the resulting "power" that brought to Tampa Reviewer, that power may have corrupted him. And I think it MAY go well BEYOND a simple flaw in his process. Some providers have complained about shakedowns. Of course, that might just be resentment and excuses for their getting bad reviews, but similar reports have been coming from other quarters, most noticibly from SirSickAlot. So, is there really more going on here than meets the eye?
Let's think about that. Suddenly, providers are contacting him, anxiously wanting to be reviewed. That could start any guy thinking when they HAD been shelling out $200 a pop to review all those girls. After all, from HIS perspective, he's putting all this "work" into his blog, the girls are profiting from his reviews (or not), why shouldn't he get "something" more out of it to help defray all his "expenses"? That may be HIS perspective, but what he has to remember is that anything that he does that might bias his reporting defeats the original (or at least purported) purpose of his site. Even if he THINKS he is still being honest in his reviews, he should also be completely honest with US and be up front about anything that might shade his "opinions".
Is this what has happened with his site. I honestly don't know. But now his status seems even more suspect and "like a fiction novel" since ALL of his posts here have suddenly been pulled shortly after I pointed out the problems with his methods. Only the quotes by myself and others remain to prove he was ever here. WTF is up with that?
I think you might be right. The site probably started out right and with good intentions, motivated by the serious lack of reliable reviews elsewhere on CL itself, TER and even here. HOWEVER, I think as the site established a following and influence, and the resulting "power" that brought to Tampa Reviewer, that power may have corrupted him. And I think it MAY go well BEYOND a simple flaw in his process. Some providers have complained about shakedowns. Of course, that might just be resentment and excuses for their getting bad reviews, but similar reports have been coming from other quarters, most noticibly from SirSickAlot. So, is there really more going on here than meets the eye?
Let's think about that. Suddenly, providers are contacting him, anxiously wanting to be reviewed. That could start any guy thinking when they HAD been shelling out $200 a pop to review all those girls. After all, from HIS perspective, he's putting all this "work" into his blog, the girls are profiting from his reviews (or not), why shouldn't he get "something" more out of it to help defray all his "expenses"? That may be HIS perspective, but what he has to remember is that anything that he does that might bias his reporting defeats the original (or at least purported) purpose of his site. Even if he THINKS he is still being honest in his reviews, he should also be completely honest with US and be up front about anything that might shade his "opinions".
Is this what has happened with his site. I honestly don't know. But now his status seems even more suspect and "like a fiction novel" since ALL of his posts here have suddenly been pulled shortly after I pointed out the problems with his methods. Only the quotes by myself and others remain to prove he was ever here. WTF is up with that?First, sorry I meant Amanda not Anna, although sometimes those two ads seem very similar?
Secondly, not to beat a dead horse, but at first he was just writing reviews of people HE had already seen. Now he is writing reviews based on the e-mails he recieves from about 30 other people. Now he becomes no better than TER, and we don't even have the benefit of researching the people submitting information.
The flagging system at cl is used to harass and stalk women. I have been contacted by men who threaten bad reviews if I don't give them free service. I won't ever conceed to that kind of threat and told him that if he reviewed me, then I would just hunt him down and, well, he left me alone. I have been looking for other places to post, currently use backpage, provider post, and a few others. If anyone has any other sites, I would rather pay to have an ad up then to spend my entire day reposting ads that don't last 10 mins. At least at backpage, you don't get flagged, stalked, harassed or bullied through the flagging system. If anyone has any other sites that are good for posting besides cl, please let me know. I have been out here for 9 years but have never allowed anyone who met me to review me. I still feel that way and if anyone who actually meets me reviews me, he will get a review by me. I feel that guys should flag all negative reviews because most are done out of spite.
Member #4558
08-21-08, 17:21
I think you might be right. The site probably started out right and with good intentions, motivated by the serious lack of reliable reviews elsewhere on CL itself, TER and even here. HOWEVER, I think as the site established a following and influence, and the resulting "power" that brought to Tampa Reviewer, that power may have corrupted him.
Could we possibly have the makings of another TBD on our hands? In a position where you are posting reviews, excuse me, "dreams", on a site that you basically control the content of, you lose all objectivity as I see it. Naturallt, some are going to seek out his attention in hopes of garnering a favorable review. Good reviews mean increased popularity and more money so why not toss in a freebie to the web site host.
And his dealt with that Karmen chick, it was just boasting on his part. See what I got and you can't have it! As soon as he pulled that crap, I deleted the bookmark of his site from my favorites and I have not been back since.
Hardwood123
08-22-08, 00:17
Let's think about that. Suddenly, providers are contacting him, anxiously wanting to be reviewed. That could start any guy thinking when they HAD been shelling out $200 a pop to review all those girls. After all, from HIS perspective, he's putting all this "work" into his blog, the girls are profiting from his reviews (or not), why shouldn't he get "something" more out of it to help defray all his "expenses"? That may be HIS perspective, but what he has to remember is that anything that he does that might bias his reporting defeats the original (or at least purported) purpose of his site. Even if he THINKS he is still being honest in his reviews, he should also be completely honest with US and be up front about anything that might shade his "opinions".
Hey, I have an idea! I will start an unbiased review site and, like other reviewers of fine dining, I shall remain anonymous. Of course, I will ask each of you to kick in $50 each every month to help defray my dining costs.
Member #4312
08-22-08, 00:38
A friend of mine sent this to me. And I thought I would pass it along. It just goes to show you what he is realy like.
would like to verify you and review you for the webpage i maintain below. i have had alot of emails asking about you and i figured it was time i email you and see if we can setup a meet and greet? The website is similiar to the erotic review (TER) but only deals with local girls. The website is meant to help hobbyisty avoid the ripoff girls, and also help the legit girls more money because i have over 12000 memebers on the site, and also get over 40 emails a day asking me about different girls and what kind of service they provide, if they are real, if they look like their pictures, etc.The second email
well i wanted to get together and sit down and talk to you before we did a session but i dont want to get charged to talk to you, you know what i mean?. if after talking you feel comfortable with it, we can do the session. i want to learn who is the real raven, why she's doing this, get to know you a little better so the other guys when they ask me questions about you (and i know they will), i can answer them without having to refer back to you. All the girls that i have verified don't even have to advertise on craigslist anymore because all the regulars on my site book a girl the moment i put her up. i have had a ton of emails asking me about you and i keep putting them off and telling them.i dont know..she's new to craigslist so i can't tell you....so i dont know how good business has been to you, but im positive i can make it so much better for you. i have guys on my site that will ONLY see girls i review because they have been ripped off so many times..than i have guys who are upscale guys who dont use craigslist to look up girls..but use me as a referral service..they ask me if i know a girl that is in certain height, weight requirements, that does x, y, z..so i throw girls alot of business.
the way i do the review is a little bit different...because girls have made so much money off of my site, i exchange a review for a session.
Member #5237
08-22-08, 02:02
Hey, I have an idea! I will start an unbiased review site and, like other reviewers of fine dining, I shall remain anonymous. Of course, I will ask each of you to kick in $50 each every month to help defray my dining costs.
Would you like to supersize that meal?
Mike Wazowski
08-22-08, 03:29
I think you might be right. The site probably started out right and with good intentions, motivated by the serious lack of reliable reviews elsewhere on CL itself, TER and even here. HOWEVER, I think as the site established a following and influence, and the resulting "power" that brought to Tampa Reviewer, that power may have corrupted him. And I think it MAY go well BEYOND a simple flaw in his process. Some providers have complained about shakedowns. Of course, that might just be resentment and excuses for their getting bad reviews, but similar reports have been coming from other quarters, most noticibly from SirSickAlot. So, is there really more going on here than meets the eye?
Let's think about that. Suddenly, providers are contacting him, anxiously wanting to be reviewed. That could start any guy thinking when they HAD been shelling out $200 a pop to review all those girls. After all, from HIS perspective, he's putting all this "work" into his blog, the girls are profiting from his reviews (or not), why shouldn't he get "something" more out of it to help defray all his "expenses"? That may be HIS perspective, but what he has to remember is that anything that he does that might bias his reporting defeats the original (or at least purported) purpose of his site. Even if he THINKS he is still being honest in his reviews, he should also be completely honest with US and be up front about anything that might shade his "opinions".
Is this what has happened with his site. I honestly don't know. But now his status seems even more suspect and "like a fiction novel" since ALL of his posts here have suddenly been pulled shortly after I pointed out the problems with his methods. Only the quotes by myself and others remain to prove he was ever here. WTF is up with that?
I was thinking along the same lines and kept thinking about posting but, since he wasn't really being prick, here, I let it go. But I felt his site was turning into a sham. Especially when he gave a very favorable review to a Pasco girl who I backed out on when she showed up with a driver to meet me at her incall.
I saw her get dropped off and my flags went up. Since I was on the road, I kept going and watched her driver. When he did a U-turn, so did I and I watched him pull into a lot across the street from the incall.
I called her and told her it was off and why. Then I put up with the idiot driver calling me, repeatedly, for two hours, begging me to come back and meet the girl.
Bad reviews started to abound on this girl and his review even says that they are all from jealous competition and guys who wanted freebies.
Bullshit. Pure and simple.
As for his posts getting pulled, I was wondering why they ever materialized, considering this rule of USASG:
"No Self-Promotion: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that are primarily for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, multi-level marketing activity, or other entities that you have an affiliation with EXCEPT in the classified advertising section."
I don't think he's needed anyway. I would rather read the reviews here and make my own judgment if they are true or not. When a provider gets a bad review here either you get more backing up the review or you get people calling bs on it. With his site, it's just his word.
...next thing will be socials where mongers can meet and greet some of the lovely ladies. Spocko will come out of retirement and some unsuspecting monger will have an unfortunate session with Lia Nice.
NobodyYouKnow
08-22-08, 19:12
As for his posts getting pulled, I was wondering why they ever materialized, considering this rule of USASG:
"No Self-Promotion: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that are primarily for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, multi-level marketing activity, or other entities that you have an affiliation with EXCEPT in the classified advertising section."Maybe someone finally tipped Jackson off. He can't be everywhere, and read everything, so it doesn't hurt to give him a heads up if someone is misbehaving.
G Money Cool
08-25-08, 15:41
All. I am new to this board. Ironically, I found it because the Tampa GFE Reviewer is now bashing this board on his site. I was one of the early followers and contributors to the blog, and initially thought it a good idea. I do believe it started out legit, but then the power and influence went to his head.
Then when I reported that Amanda Luv/Kristy/Tampa Tori were all the same person and the services were not as advertised, he claimed to have verified that they were indeed different people and had confimed they were the people in the photographs. At that point he removed me from being a contributor, and would only selectively let my comments through. After that, I started watching more closely.
The reviews started to become incredibly over-hyped. I decided to see one of the over-hyped girls (Erica), and ask her about the process for getting the review. The guy setup the session, and when he showed he told her about his "deal". He writes a good review for a free session. She declined, and he told her it was OK, he'd give her a review anyway. So he fabricates the review, but then a couple weeks later he starts calling her up and saying she owes him money for the business he's throwing her way. She actually paid him, and he kept coming around. I called up Torrie, who has quite possibly the most ridiculous review, and she initially told me she never paid him or gave her freebies, but he did drive for her.
His latest scam if girls refuse to pay him is to move them to the "No Longer Providing" section. I called Torrie up again when she got moved, and sure enough it's because she won't pay him. She said he also flags her CL ads, and even posted an ad on CL saying she had a free car to give away, just so she'd be flooded with calls. Did the same thing to the girl Layla on his site. I actually met her in person, and she played a voice mail from him. He is trying to force his way into being a pimp for these girls, under the guise of a legit review site.
But don't just take my word for it. Schedule a session with either Erica or Torrie. Layla changed her phone number after he pulled the free car thing on her, and I don't have a new number for her.
G
Some of the providers that he claims that are not in business, is Bulls**t! He has Joanie has one of the providers that is not in business anymore. When in fact, she posted on the cl board today!
When he did his reveiw of Torrie from Pasco. It was a bogus reveiw. I have seen her myself, and she's a rip off!
Stay safe
MM
I gave up on his site when he "reported" all this about Tampa Tori. I saw her one time at the shop on Kennedy. Was seeing another provider there and TT was there going by Casey Swallows. I remember this other provider said to stay away from her because she was "nuts".
Then when I reported that Amanda Luv/Kristy/Tampa Tori were all the same person and the services were not as advertised, he claimed to have verified that they were indeed different people and had confimed they were the people in the photographs. At that point he removed me from being a contributor, and would only selectively let my comments through. After that, I started watching more closely.
G Money Cool
08-26-08, 15:29
Could we possibly have the makings of another TBD on our hands? In a position where you are posting reviews, excuse me, "dreams", on a site that you basically control the content of, you lose all objectivity as I see it. Naturallt, some are going to seek out his attention in hopes of garnering a favorable review. Good reviews mean increased popularity and more money so why not toss in a freebie to the web site host.
And his dealt with that Karmen chick, it was just boasting on his part. See what I got and you can't have it! As soon as he pulled that crap, I deleted the bookmark of his site from my favorites and I have not been back since.Note, after he read this post he removed his self-indulgent review of Karmen.
I also notice that he is now a big supporter of Sky Marie. Funny. Several months ago I had sent him an email saying I setup a session with her and she no-showed. At her own incall location. Twice. He replied that she had done the same to him, and he had heard bad things, and wouldn't recommend her. Now he says this:
"The first girl is Jasmin, or you may know her by another name (she changed her name for reasons I can't disclose). She is probably one of the hotter girls in the area. Nice body, beautiful face. She looks like the All american girl next door. I think she's latin if memory serves me right. Anyways you may have read that she is a ripoff or something. That's completely false info. It's her ex bf trying to ruin her reputation because he found out what she was doing. This girl won't rip you off, I can promise you that. She is completely f/s. No GFE whatsoever. Doesn't matter if you think paying a few more dollars is going to entice your dream, it won't. All you will get is F/S from. Not that she doesn't try to make it a memorable experience and have you come back for more, but she values her life and safety and she sticks to her guns. Email me if you want some more pictures of her, or you can find them on CLIST"
Well, they sound like dear old pals. He's even got extra photos right there on his PC. Though he can't recall if she is latin. Give me a break.
El Pito Loco
08-26-08, 17:32
Aight. Hum, Can someone tell me where is this guy's website? Does it have pictures of the chicks on it?
Member #4558
08-26-08, 17:33
I knew that I should not have done it, but when I read here that this P.O.S. pimp wannabe had posted something on his B.S. blog I had to go read. Lo and behold, the pimp wannabe mention your truly by name. Now how special is that. I pondered this revelation all day today, wonder why the pimp wannabe would do me the honor of mentioning me by name. He did not reference any of you other bums! What makes little old me so special in his eyes?
Well, it does not really matter. He is just a boil on the ass of society with a blog full of lies and untruths. I think the membership here has shown they are smart enough to spot a liar and hopefully he is gone from here for good. Sooner or later, he is going to try and shake down a CL girl with a real pimp and he is just going to become another crime statistic. And the sooner, the better!
I knew that I should not have done it, but when I read here that this P. O. S. Pimp wannabe had posted something on his B. S. Blog I had to go read. Lo and behold, the pimp wannabe mention your truly by name. Now how special is that. I pondered this revelation all day today, wonder why the pimp wannabe would do me the honor of mentioning me by name. He did not reference any of you other bums! What makes little old me so special in his eyes?
Well, it does not really matter. He is just a boil on the ass of society with a blog full of lies and untruths. I think the membership here has shown they are smart enough to spot a liar and hopefully he is gone from here for good. Sooner or later, he is going to try and shake down a CL girl with a real pimp and he is just going to become another crime statistic. And the sooner, the better! I sure do miss WookWorld. That was the best site!
I spoke with one of the ladies on his site, Erica. He moved iher into the "No Longer Providing." His reason for that was because she had been inactive on CL for a couple of weeks. She told me that she's still active, that he was mad that she would not f*** him. She asked me to pass on the information that she still here.
I agree, the concept was initially good, especially for newbies, but it's probably gone to his head.
(Oh, by the way, she's no longer in that grouping. Interesting....).
He is aboslutely correct. I traded emails with Erica, and she is still around.
All. I am new to this board. Ironically, I found it because the Tampa GFE Reviewer is now bashing this board on his site. I was one of the early followers and contributors to the blog, and initially thought it a good idea. I do believe it started out legit, but then the power and influence went to his head.
Then when I reported that Amanda Luv/Kristy/Tampa Tori were all the same person and the services were not as advertised, he claimed to have verified that they were indeed different people and had confimed they were the people in the photographs. At that point he removed me from being a contributor, and would only selectively let my comments through. After that, I started watching more closely.
The reviews started to become incredibly over-hyped. I decided to see one of the over-hyped girls (Erica), and ask her about the process for getting the review. The guy setup the session, and when he showed he told her about his "deal". He writes a good review for a free session. She declined, and he told her it was OK, he'd give her a review anyway. So he fabricates the review, but then a couple weeks later he starts calling her up and saying she owes him money for the business he's throwing her way. She actually paid him, and he kept coming around. I called up Torrie, who has quite possibly the most ridiculous review, and she initially told me she never paid him or gave her freebies, but he did drive for her.
His latest scam if girls refuse to pay him is to move them to the "No Longer Providing" section. I called Torrie up again when she got moved, and sure enough it's because she won't pay him. She said he also flags her CL ads, and even posted an ad on CL saying she had a free car to give away, just so she'd be flooded with calls. Did the same thing to the girl Layla on his site. I actually met her in person, and she played a voice mail from him. He is trying to force his way into being a pimp for these girls, under the guise of a legit review site.
But don't just take my word for it. Schedule a session with either Erica or Torrie. Layla changed her phone number after he pulled the free car thing on her, and I don't have a new number for her.
G
I was just reading and waiting to see what he had to say on this board. He reported the skinny ebony, Lady the one I had a dream about, as the best black girl in the area and later changed his review. His current review of Lady says he never saw her and she is a rip-off becasue all she wanted was a good review in exchange for a free session. I agree he may have been legit when he first started his blog, but I think he will post anything now if a free session is offered. Give the guy credit, most of my dreams seem to have a price tag.
G Money Cool
08-26-08, 22:50
I was just reading and waiting to see what he had to say on this board. He reported the skinny ebony, Lady the one I had a dream about, as the best black girl in the area and later changed his review. His current review of Lady says he never saw her and she is a rip-off becasue all she wanted was a good review in exchange for a free session. I agree he may have been legit when he first started his blog, but I think he will post anything now if a free session is offered. Give the guy credit, most of my dreams seem to have a price tag.I did see his turnabout on Miss Lady. It actually got quite nasty. For a while there he actually posted her home address on his blog. Then suddenly all his slanderous remarks were gone, replaced with "Trust me, she is a ripoff". It was way over the line. I think he realized pretty quickly that she could bring some heat if she wanted to. I agree with Wook. He's going to make a move on the wrong girl, and it's going to be bye-bye. From what Layla described to me, he is just a chump. Late 20s/early 30s, thinning hair, heavy acne scarring, and shares a run-down dump of an apartment with 2 other roommates. Trying to pimp girls driving them in his run-down Cavalier. Quite sad, to be honest.
El Pito Loco
08-27-08, 09:04
Seriously. Where is this guy's website?
G Money Cool
08-27-08, 09:36
Looks like his self-indulgent review of "Karmen" is raising more eyebrows. Someone spotted a CL ad in Portland that had the same pics on his old review of Karmen. This comment was posted on his site:
Cblack said.
"hey I am planning a trip to portland this weekend and I looked up CL for a provider there and the first one I looked at was a pic that I seen you list a picture of. Here is the link
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ers/814355842.html
This had me a little concerned about the info that I have seen on your site"
The rebuttal.
Tampa Escorts Reviewer said.
"I know exactly who is doing it and why its on their. I am not worried too much about it. They can have their fun, but that's the main reason I deleted her review. "
So we are supposed to believe that one of the jealous masses who bashes the blog site went out, took his "legit" photos of Karmen, and posted a CL ad in Portland? Hmmm. Interesting theory. Here's another theory. You wanted to build up your rep that you are the alpha-monger, and since you spend all your time surfing CL postings you have access to lots of pictures. You found these, fabricated a "dream" (much like you fabricated your dreams with Erica, Layla, and others), and didn't think anyone would bust you. Now you see, it is getting harder and harder to contain this big tangled web of lies you have going.
I just deleted my name off that site (Don't ask me what it was; it's unimportant). I am a frequent traveler to your fair city, and when I found this site, I thought it was nirvana to a newbie like me. But as i read more and more, I see tha I was contributing to the potential abuse of these ladies.
I do not want to be an enabler to an individual that is extorting these ladies. They take enough risks; they don't need this as well.
There is a new blog you need to check out. Please Pm me for the address.
It give a very clear picture of this guy and his true motives.
Ladies, stick together and be safe!
G Money Cool
08-27-08, 14:39
Seriously. Where is this guy's website?http://www.********************.********.com/
This is the site in question.
Member #4558
08-27-08, 17:48
Seriously. Where is this guy's website?
Doubt anyone here will provide it as the pimp wannabe burned his bridges with the membership. But, it should not be hard to find. I think he is just using a free Google blog page. That should give you an idea of the type of individual the pimp wannabe is. Could not even shell out the bucks to register his own domain but had to rely on something free.
As for G Moneys post, it was pretty apparent that the images of the Karmen on the review site were of two different women. The pic where she was facing the camera, the original one posted, was obviously of a different woman when you looked at the other two images which were posted later. Hair color was different, tits were way different and skin tone was different.
But what should be expected from a moronic scammer.
MonicaExotica
08-27-08, 23:48
Darling, Thank You for the outing of a wannabe whatever His motives were, as transparent as They were. I despise information diggers and privacy invaders. Always a red flag. I rember you as the only honest poster concerning the flea collar fiasco. Cudos My friend
Shame he was exposed before I got any further with this, but hey, enjoy the video.
http://tampajohnreviewer.********.com/
Member #4558
08-28-08, 07:06
Darling, Thank You for the outing of a wannabe whatever His motives were, as transparent as They were. I despise information diggers and privacy invaders. Always a red flag. I rember you as the only honest poster concerning the flea collar fiasco. Cudos My friend
I can't take the credit for this. Even though I suspected he was bogus, many others here did most of the real work. The best evidence was offered up by G Money.
G Money Cool
08-28-08, 08:50
I was thinking along the same lines and kept thinking about posting but, since he wasn't really being prick, here, I let it go. But I felt his site was turning into a sham. Especially when he gave a very favorable review to a Pasco girl who I backed out on when she showed up with a driver to meet me at her incall.
I saw her get dropped off and my flags went up. Since I was on the road, I kept going and watched her driver. When he did a U-turn, so did I and I watched him pull into a lot across the street from the incall.
I called her and told her it was off and why. Then I put up with the idiot driver calling me, repeatedly, for two hours, begging me to come back and meet the girl.
Bad reviews started to abound on this girl and his review even says that they are all from jealous competition and guys who wanted freebies.
Bullshit. Pure and simple.
As for his posts getting pulled, I was wondering why they ever materialized, considering this rule of USASG:
"No Self-Promotion: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that are primarily for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, multi-level marketing activity, or other entities that you have an affiliation with EXCEPT in the classified advertising section."Mike - if you don't mind me asking, who was the Pasco girl you bailed on? It's possible the driver may have been the reviewer himself. I know for a fact that he drove Layla at least once, and Torrie a few times, until they got tired of how much money he wanted. I'm sure he's done it/doing it with others.
MonicaExotica
08-28-08, 21:30
Well then Thank you and all others concerned. I've been going through some b*llshyte on ter from another shill for a sarasota agency. But niether here nor there a**holes are like opinions everyones got one, LOL. This jack I tossed out for asking x sex acts for x bucks. So bye bye he went and sour grapes on other sites. Smelled like pork to me. I miss wook world. The last bastian of free press in this world that we revolve in. I was approached by gfeviewer and He wasnt happy with my reply. Called Me nasty things, I could care less about reviews. Heck with ghost surf You can do it yourself. I've been under the radar since My days at ETS and The Legend, and so I prefere to stay.
G Money Cool
08-28-08, 23:11
Well lo and behold. He finally admitted that Amanda Luv and Tampa Tori are the same person. I believe he is watching this forum, and any BS that is called here, he runs back over to his site and amends his blog. That's exactly the intention. Clip his little wanna-be pimp wings, and let the industry go back to normal. How about you put this in your blog: "You are a FRAUD! "
Not only is this guy distorting the market, I know for a fact he is running girls out of the business. Layla is a prime example. In the voice mail she played for me, he threatened to call her father and tell him what she is doing. Unless, of course, she agreed to give him $50 for every $200 session she had. And if that didn't work, he threatened to set her up in a police sting. Ridiculous. She decided she's better off without the drama. She already has a couple DUIs and possession charges, and doesn't need more heat.
The good news is that more and more girls are on to him. I've talked to a few new CL posters in the past couple of days, and they are well aware of his scam. I got an email from one today who said she and a few other girls had gotten together to compare notes, and one of them knows where his apartment is. His days might be numbered.
Josh (real name of the Tampa GFE Reviewer). Your brief reign of pathetic, self-indulgent rule is over. Once again, the ladies will show us that they ultimately control the world, because they control the puddy-tat.
Darkpassenger
08-29-08, 00:54
I can't find this pricks site again; can someone pm me with it, please? I went there when he started showing up, and I figured that he was as full of shite as a pre-christmas turkey before the axe.
Well lo and behold. He finally admitted that Amanda Luv and Tampa Tori are the same person. I believe he is watching this forum, and any BS that is called here, he runs back over to his site and amends his blog. That's exactly the intention. Clip his little wanna-be pimp wings, and let the industry go back to normal. How about you put this in your blog: "You are a FRAUD! "
Not only is this guy distorting the market, I know for a fact he is running girls out of the business. Layla is a prime example. In the voice mail she played for me, he threatened to call her father and tell him what she is doing. Unless, of course, she agreed to give him $50 for every $200 session she had. And if that didn't work, he threatened to set her up in a police sting. Ridiculous. She decided she's better off without the drama. She already has a couple DUIs and possession charges, and doesn't need more heat.
The good news is that more and more girls are on to him. I've talked to a few new CL posters in the past couple of days, and they are well aware of his scam. I got an email from one today who said she and a few other girls had gotten together to compare notes, and one of them knows where his apartment is. His days might be numbered.
Josh (real name of the Tampa GFE Reviewer). Your brief reign of pathetic, self-indulgent rule is over. Once again, the ladies will show us that they ultimately control the world, because they control the puddy-tat.
G Money Cool
08-29-08, 14:26
I think he's trying to generate some excitement on his blog, given how many providers are on to his scam. His main headline of the day is that I am now "banned and blacklisted" from his site for making negative comments. I think I must have damaged his ego.
On top of my bannishment, now he's also messenger boy in the middle of a pissing match between wanted felons. Trying to push out the pimp competition I suppose. He's got mug shots and arrest records up of a guy and his wife who runs an agency, even listing contact info for the Florida Dept of Corrections if you have info on their whereabouts. And thus the descent into chaos begins...
(Excerpt from his site)
I got 2 emails from tom today. The first one titled "YOU ARE FUCKED" and than it says "call me in the email.
The second email titled "you are a fraud" and says this
I just talked to a bunch of girls from your blog and none of them have ever met you or talked to you sorry ass. I have contacted my attorney and we well be filling suite against you. If you think you can hide behind your spoofer your very wrong. My attorney is an ex circuit court judge in Wayne county Michigan. You can not hide from me.
Go ahead tom. I don't want to talk to someone who is charged with possesing child porn. THAT'S JUST SICK. And its funny you say they have never talked to me or seen me.
Is that why Jasmin, Mandy, Tiffany (bbw), AmberS, Tia, Julie Love, Candy, Allison (thats all i can think of off the top of my head) use "VERIFIED PROVIDER" in their Clist ads? how would they know if they are verified or not if they havent met me, let alone talked to me? YOU ARE LOOKING STUPID TOM...quit while you are ahead
(end of excerpt)So this Tom may not be thug enough to pound our dear "escort reviewer", but ratting out fugitives is playing with fire. Fugitives will go to extremes to avoid getting caught.
And ladies. Notice how the "reviewer" is proud to offer you up as known associates? I would be very worried if I were you. Let's suppose this kiddie-porn purveyor does decide he wants to rub out the "reviewer". Now he's got your names and phone numbers, and he knows you know the "reviewer". All he has to do is get you over for an outcall, and. Well, I don't want to think about what might happen. I hope it doesn't happen. You ought to distance yourself from all this; it feels like it could get dangerous.
BladeRunner007
08-29-08, 16:31
Ok, now even i am wondering what his site is. The other xxx'd out site below is on ********.
I can't find this pricks site again; can someone pm me with it, please? I went there when he started showing up, and I figured that he was as full of shite as a pre-christmas turkey before the axe.
Mike Wazowski
08-30-08, 04:36
Mike - if you don't mind me asking, who was the Pasco girl you bailed on? It's possible the driver may have been the reviewer himself. I know for a fact that he drove Layla at least once, and Torrie a few times, until they got tired of how much money he wanted. I'm sure he's done it/doing it with others.
Well, as seems to be consistent with him, he took her entry off the site after I mentioned what I had happen.
Obviously, he knows who I was talking about, since I didn't remember her name, just recognized her photos as the ones she used to advertise with. But I went to look her up and get the name and she's gone! Imagine that!
Maybe you're right about him having been the driver that blew up my phone for a couple of hours.
The girl was a petite blonde. Kind of white-trashy looking but what I was in the mood for that night.
G Money Cool
08-30-08, 08:57
Well, as seems to be consistent with him, he took her entry off the site after I mentioned what I had happen.
Obviously, he knows who I was talking about, since I didn't remember her name, just recognized her photos as the ones she used to advertise with. But I went to look her up and get the name and she's gone! Imagine that!
Maybe you're right about him having been the driver that blew up my phone for a couple of hours.
The girl was a petite blonde. Kind of white-trashy looking but what I was in the mood for that night.Try looking in the "No Longer Providing" section. There is a link near the top of the main page that takes you there. It's where he puts girls that won't do his bidding. The girl you describe sounds like Torrie, and she told me he drove for her some. Do you recall what kind of car the driver had? Because the "escort reviewer" drives a Cavalier.
By the way, the fugitive is not pleased with him. Here's a blurb from an email he supposedly sent the "reviewer":
AS FOR MY ARREST RECORD. IF YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THE WHOLE ARREST RECORD YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE FUCKED WITH ME. ANY WHERE IN THE USA WHEN THE POLICE COME TO ARESST ME THEY BRING S.W.A.T. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO OR WHAT YOU ARE FUCKING WITH.
SEE YOU REAL SOONNow the "reviewer" keeps posting these and taunting him, like it's a big joke. I'm secretly hoping the spider is about to catch himself a fly.
Member #4558
08-30-08, 12:11
On top of my bannishment, now he's also messenger boy in the middle of a pissing match between wanted felons. Trying to push out the pimp competition I suppose. He's got mug shots and arrest records up of a guy and his wife who runs an agency, even listing contact info for the Florida Dept of Corrections if you have info on their whereabouts. And thus the descent into chaos begins...
I don't know what this moron is trying to accomplish with his posting of personal information. Sure he can claim that it is on his public blog and that it is public record but think about it for a minute. He is outing folks that have convicted felonies. As stupid as he is, it would not be hard for someone who wants to find him to track him down. He obviously thinks with the little head and not the big one.
G Money Cool
09-02-08, 18:07
So now he has gone from dreaming about girls to just interviewing them. This popped up about a girl named Cameron.
(excerpt from blog)
Having talked to her for a while, i know this girl would not screw anyone over and cash and dash them, rip them off, or anything because i warned her if she did, i would not hesitate to move her to the ripoff list.
(end of excerpt)
At some point in his write up, he assures us that she won't be giving him a kickback. So let's get this straight - you didn't bang the chick, you just took a few hours out of your busy schedule to do a meet and greet. Why would you do that for nothing in return? It just isn't believable. Dude - if that's what you want to do, then come right out and declare yourself to be an escort agency. Be honest about it.
Member #4558
09-02-08, 19:53
Face it, he's just a pimp wanna be and he will tell these girls anything to get next to them. Just like he came here and tried to spread his B.S. around. He was quickly discovered, found guilty, tried and expelled from here.
And as far as he denies controlling what is seen on his blog, I guess he is not old enough to know of Charles Kelly, unless he is Kelly of course. There is a classic case of honesty on web site Mr. pimp wannabe. Go look it up. His methods of operation were exactly like yours. And I guess is is also too young to remember that I ran my own site for a while so I know all of the tricks about controlling the content of a web site.
Of course, my world was much better than his IMHO!
And I guess is is also too young to remember that I ran my own site for a while so I know all of the tricks about controlling the content of a web site....Of course, my world was much better than his IMHO!
Amen, brother!
G Money Cool
09-08-08, 08:36
A couple of things to report. It does appear that a few of the girls who have been held "hostage" by the ripoff reviews are being vindicated. It appears the reviewer's loyal and faithful are venturing out and confirming that some of these girls aren't ripoffs. Which leads to some comical ass-covering by the reviewer himself. It happened this weekend with Sasha Baby, a Brazilian woman who has been listed as a ripoff on the blog for quite some time. She was listed as a ripoff not because he actually saw her, but because he claimed he could tell by the way she emailed back and forth with him. Apparently several of the blog devotees recently reported she was a good experience, leading Josh (the reviewer) to post this:
(beginning of excerpt)
"I appriciate the email i got from nautilus. My goal is to provide accurate information on providers and never put any false information out there. If this is true, i will be more than happy to issue a public appology to sasha. It just makes me wonder who it was i was talking to in those emails. "
(end of excerpt)
Yeah, I wonder. Perhaps you made it up because she wouldn't play your game? Or perhaps most women just don't react well to someone trying to extort money and free sex from them. Funny how that works.
So now, with the air having been cleared on Sasha, the comment thread turned to what I can only characterize as a surreal, pathetic support group for a hobbyist who fell in love and paid a dear price. Check out this comment thread:
(beginning of excerpt)
bellybuttonlover said...
I may insult several Brazilian women and others, as well, out there by saying this, but as soon as Sashababy declared that she is Brazilian then this little voice inside my head told me to stay away from her!
For those of you who don't know me, I was married to a very beautiful Brazilian woman for 5 long, arduous, difficult years and, in the end, it turned out to be the biggest mistake I will ever make in my life. It is not just her for whom I am speaking ill of either. I knew many Brazilian women (her friends, family, etc.) and, no matter how attractive they may be, they all seemed to be very, very bad people! As much as I hate to generalize like this, I cannot help but tell you what has been clear-cut experience.
Before my marriage, I was in-shape, successfully working as an engineer, friendly, and I had goals in life. Now, I am a shell of my former self, 100 pounds overweight, barely scraping by with a low-paying job, very anti-social, and I live 1 day at a time. Many would say the economy has caused most of this and the weight gain was indeed from quitting smoking, but I truly believe that if I had avoided marrigae with this beautiful Brazilian woman that I would still be successful, I would still be friendly, and I sure as hell would not have quit smoking for anyone hence gaining 100 pounds. The economy may suck, but my marriage to this Brazilian woman literally sucked the life out of me! That is what they do! Make no mistake about it!
If Sashababy is legal to live in this country, and being a Brazilian woman that is indeed a BIG "if", then I can only imagine the harm she has caused any and every American man she encounters.
I am sure I will catch a lot of hell for this, and that is fine with me, but I felt the need to post this as I truly believe that all Brazilian women have an agenda, cannot be trusted, and should be avoided, no matter how physicially beautiful they may be. I know from very painful experience.
Tampa Escorts Reviewer said...
LMFAO HOLY SHIT BBL...that was funny to read..wow is all i got to say
bellybuttonlover said...
As funny as it may seem, I am serious about my feelings regarding Brazilian women. As beautiful as they are, they are toxic and hurtful people! I know too well! I honestly believe that my life would have been a bazillion times better if it weren't for my marriage to a Brazilian woman, especially one who entered this country illegally and preyed upon a US citizen (me) in order to obtain permanent resident alien status.
Don't get me wrong. I love latina women (especially Colombian women)! Just not Brazilians! If it were up to me, I would send them all back to their country of origin and let the poor Brazilian men deal with them!
nautilus said...
Bellybuttonlover, I fell for you Brother. I too am an Engineer still recovering from the effects of a toxic female. Mine was Hungarian; a bit of the qypsy. Toxic women come in all flavors, as do worthless men. You pay your money (and heart) and you takes your chances.
Sasha is not a product of Brazilian culture. She was born and raised in Florida by parents of Italian and Brazilian heritage.
She's a true sweetheart; as or more GFE than any girl I've dated in real life.
Hang in there and try to leave the past behind. Never forget your mistakes, but don't let them haunt you. Life's too short!
(end of excerpt)
There you have it guys. Avoid the Brazilian succubus, lest ye lose your job, plump up, and turn into a social retard. Someone should warn Tom Brady to dump Giselle Bundchen, otherwise he's going to be 300 pounds, talking to himself, and serving spicy hot dogs from a cart on the streets of Boston soon.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! Ha!!!
G Money Cool
09-23-08, 10:52
I have met Kim and got to know her on a more personal level for about a week of dating. The first night I met up with her she spent a few hours at my place, and we talked for a while about all of her adventures she has had, and she fell asleep in my arms for a couple of hours as I rubbed her back for her. At first I did not tell her I was the Tampa Escort reviewer because I was afraid she would think I was some other guy trying to get with her (I met her on *******), but eventually a couple of weeks ago, broke the news to her and she thought this innocent guy who she liked and wanted to have a baby with (I kid you not, ask her) was some horny sex maniac LOL.
I am debating whether I want to add her to the site or not. We talked about her being put on the site, but to me, she's more than just another SP.I recently had a session with someone who knows Kim well. According to her, the story is somewhat different. As it was recounted to me, Josh (the Tampa Escort Reveiwer/GFE Reviewer) "found" Kim on one of the personal networking sites, chatted her up and eventually convinced her to go out with him. They went out once. It sounds like he then put the full-court press on her to go out again, she didn't want to, and his persistance made her think he was a little creepy. Later on, someone told her she had a review on this blog and she had no idea who had put it there. When her friend told her the reviewer guy's name was Josh, and she read what he posted here, she put two and two together.
Just one more testament to his craziness, and the extent to which he will go to get freebies. He's stalking the personal networking sites, looking for escorts who have normal personal profiles, and trying to date them (and convincing himself they want to have his baby, no less). Definitely sounds like a psychological loose marble in his head.
Again. I got this story second hand. If anyone has a session with Kim, ask her about it and see if the version I got is accurate.
Ladies. Be careful.
G
Member #4558
09-23-08, 18:04
Just one more testament to his craziness, and the extent to which he will go to get freebies. He's stalking the personal networking sites, looking for escorts who have normal personal profiles, and trying to date them (and convincing himself they want to have his baby, no less). Definitely sounds like a psychological loose marble in his head.
G
The more I read about this moron, the more I swear that he is Spocko. He exhibits the same damaged brain. Last time I checked his blog, you had to log in with a user name and password and participation was by "invitation only". Guess that is one way to control who reads your lies, er, what you write.
At least we do not have to worry about him showing up here.
R Consultant
09-23-08, 20:46
After a friend of mine pointed it out to me-- theres alot of morons or at least one or two morons that post under different names that are on here more than I care to think about. Who knows what these jackazzzessss get out of this but its down right sad.
I figured one day Jackson will expose these clowns for what they really are, I started paying attention to the writing styles and the same BS posts they do. I think theres to much azz out there to get to be wasting ones time with nonsense.
Happy Hunting..
QUOTE=Originalwook]The more I read about this moron, the more I swear that he is Spocko. He exhibits the same damaged brain. Last time I checked his blog, you had to log in with a user name and password and participation was by "invitation only". Guess that is one way to control who reads your lies, er, what you write.
At least we do not have to worry about him showing up here.[/QUOTE]
G Money Cool
09-24-08, 13:08
I don't know what this moron is trying to accomplish with his posting of personal information. Sure he can claim that it is on his public blog and that it is public record but think about it for a minute. He is outing folks that have convicted felonies. As stupid as he is, it would not be hard for someone who wants to find him to track him down. He obviously thinks with the little head and not the big one.I don't know why I can't stop reading this blog for entertainment purposes. Some kind of twisted fascination at staring into the soul of a wacko. And in some small way, I feel it's important for anyone who wants to read about the insanity as a counter to the drivel on that site, as a check on his influence. Here's the latest:
For those of you who are not able to access the "Legit" blog, I'll give a bit of background. Josh (the "Tampa Escort Reviewer") got into a massive on-blog pissing match with some guy who runs an agency around here. It's hard to tell what really motivated it because he's such a pathological liar. But the long and short of it is that he had posted pictures of the guy and his wife, and all sorts of criminal record info on the blog, advising people to avoid him, and then tauntingly posting emails of supposed death threasts from the guy. Now today, there is a retraction on the blog, and the previous taunting posts are gone:
[Begin excerpt from blog]
Ignore previous post about these 2 individuals titled "fugitives on the run". The issue has been cleared up. I did get a chance to check out some information that was provided to me and this issue is dead in my book. Sometimes information can be distorted and without the proper information, its hard to verify facts, untill it is presented to you and cooler heads prevail once you have a discussion with individuals. I wont rehash our conversation but everything has been settled between us. I wont say me and tom and jennifer are good friends, because there is no such thing as good friends in this industry, just mutual understanding and communication. Being in this industry as long as i have, things get said, words get exchanged, thats human nature when it comes to money foremost, but in the end, things always get sorted out.
For anyone that was planning on seeing jennifer or anyone that works for her agency, do not let me stop you from doing so. I can't vouch for the level of quality or the girls looks because i have never seen any of the girls that jennifer employs within her agency so if anyone does get a chance to see any of the girls, or jennifer in person, let me know. Please be honest in your review. I welcome all comments, positive and negative as long as its true and not false information. This site is meant for entertainment purposes and the exchange of information amoung providers and hobbyist and not a means to attack any girl, threaten her, flag her. If i find out anyone is doing anything like this, i will not hesitate to pass that information along.
I myself have been accused of several things, be it freebies, getting paid to write reviews supposedly in exchange for cash, flagging other girls that are not on my site, bashing girls i supposedly had turned me down in exchange for a meeting..etc. That doesnt bother me..i know when you run a site like this, people are going to blame you for there misforturnes. I personally feel that theres more to this industry than just meet and greet. I have made good relationships with several girls on the site. I have girls calling me up all the time asking me to hang out that i havent even dreamed about. Not because i scare them into thinking something..but because i treat people like human beings and try to help people. That's how i was raised.
It's called karma. If anyone has a personal issue with me directly, contact me and we will talk but please dont spread false rumours around.
[End of excerpt from blog]
I takeaway a couple of things from this:
1) In all likelihood, Josh got scared this guy was going to find him and snuff him out. A couple of weeks ago, there were posts on CL offering money for anyone who could provide info as to his whereabouts. So Josh backed down. First smart thing I've seen him do.
2) Even in his retraction, his demented point of view that he is some kind of "messiah" in this industry shines through. Note quotes like: "I have girls calling me up all the time asking me to hang out that i havent even dreamed about. Not because i scare them into thinking something..but because i treat people like human beings and try to help people. That's how i was raised."
So we are supposed to believe that he has managed to turn this industry on its head? He is so in demand as a hobbyist, girls he has never met are calling him up asking to spend time with him? Can a person really believe such a thing, or is this all some big joke? If I rearrange the letters in "Tampa Escort Reviewer", will it spell "Delusions of Grandeur"?
Darkpassenger
09-25-08, 21:49
..Last time I checked his blog, you had to log in with a user name and password and participation was by "invitation only". Guess that is one way to control who reads your lies, er, what you write.
Jeez..
Maybe he was getting a little too much attention - using too much bandwidth for his blogs host's tastes?
Hmmm...
Jeez..Maybe he was getting a little too much attention - using too much bandwidth for his blogs host's tastes? Hmmm...
If you have a Google account and log into it then you can click into the site with no problems.
J Melbourne27
09-30-08, 05:14
I don't know or care what else he has done, but that sounds like genius!
He's using their info and pics to find them on networking sites and then getting freebies? Cone on, you know she's going to put out!
That's genius! We should all be so smart as to come up with an idea like that! I'd like to know how he does it. He's dating strippers and hot escorts for free.
I recently had a session with someone who knows Kim well. According to her, the story is somewhat different. As it was recounted to me, Josh (the Tampa Escort Reveiwer/GFE Reviewer) "found" Kim on one of the personal networking sites, chatted her up and eventually convinced her to go out with him. They went out once. It sounds like he then put the full-court press on her to go out again, she didn't want to, and his persistance made her think he was a little creepy. Later on, someone told her she had a review on this blog and she had no idea who had put it there. When her friend told her the reviewer guy's name was Josh, and she read what he posted here, she put two and two together.
Just one more testament to his craziness, and the extent to which he will go to get freebies. He's stalking the personal networking sites, looking for escorts who have normal personal profiles, and trying to date them (and convincing himself they want to have his baby, no less). Definitely sounds like a psychological loose marble in his head.
Again. I got this story second hand. If anyone has a session with Kim, ask her about it and see if the version I got is accurate.
Ladies. Be careful.
G
G Money Cool
09-30-08, 16:13
I don't know or care what else he has done, but that sounds like genius!
He's using their info and pics to find them on networking sites and then getting freebies? Cone on, you know she's going to put out!
That's genius! We should all be so smart as to come up with an idea like that! I'd like to know how he does it. He's dating strippers and hot escorts for free.Of course, you probably want to skip the part where he lets himself believe she's his girlfriend and wants to have his baby. That part is somewhat odd.
As for how he does it. There is a thread somewhere (maybe General Reports), where someone outlines their approach for finding Sugar Babies. I think this must be very similar, and requires an great deal of trolling and patience.
Good luck
Misslady1977
10-06-08, 02:37
Sasha and the other provider are on thetruthabout a blog I agreed to contribute to I was the first to speak out on this asshole and all I got was angry emails from his posse.
I contributed to the blog, only to have the females in question state that my number was not working Hmmmmmmmmmmm. I revoke my contribution to the blog even though it was a true story these females used my experience to vindicate themselves and try to put me out of business. I cannot speak for them but I have my own story to tell but by the way they dealt with me (asking for my help and then telling folks my phone is off! ) I have no comment.
All Is that no one gave a damn about him ruining my reputation but I guess being Ebony has it's dissadvantages in every aspect of this life!
A couple of things to report. It does appear that a few of the girls who have been held "hostage" by the ripoff reviews are being vindicated. It appears the reviewer's loyal and faithful are venturing out and confirming that some of these girls aren't ripoffs. Which leads to some comical ass-covering by the reviewer himself. It happened this weekend with Sasha Baby, a Brazilian woman who has been listed as a ripoff on the blog for quite some time. She was listed as a ripoff not because he actually saw her, but because he claimed he could tell by the way she emailed back and forth with him. Apparently several of the blog devotees recently reported she was a good experience, leading Josh (the reviewer) to post this:
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"I appriciate the email i got from nautilus. My goal is to provide accurate information on providers and never put any false information out there. If this is true, i will be more than happy to issue a public appology to sasha. It just makes me wonder who it was i was talking to in those emails. "
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Yeah, I wonder. Perhaps you made it up because she wouldn't play your game? Or perhaps most women just don't react well to someone trying to extort money and free sex from them. Funny how that works.
So now, with the air having been cleared on Sasha, the comment thread turned to what I can only characterize as a surreal, pathetic support group for a hobbyist who fell in love and paid a dear price. Check out this comment thread:
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bellybuttonlover said...
I may insult several Brazilian women and others, as well, out there by saying this, but as soon as Sashababy declared that she is Brazilian then this little voice inside my head told me to stay away from her!
For those of you who don't know me, I was married to a very beautiful Brazilian woman for 5 long, arduous, difficult years and, in the end, it turned out to be the biggest mistake I will ever make in my life. It is not just her for whom I am speaking ill of either. I knew many Brazilian women (her friends, family, etc.) and, no matter how attractive they may be, they all seemed to be very, very bad people! As much as I hate to generalize like this, I cannot help but tell you what has been clear-cut experience.
Before my marriage, I was in-shape, successfully working as an engineer, friendly, and I had goals in life. Now, I am a shell of my former self, 100 pounds overweight, barely scraping by with a low-paying job, very anti-social, and I live 1 day at a time. Many would say the economy has caused most of this and the weight gain was indeed from quitting smoking, but I truly believe that if I had avoided marrigae with this beautiful Brazilian woman that I would still be successful, I would still be friendly, and I sure as hell would not have quit smoking for anyone hence gaining 100 pounds. The economy may suck, but my marriage to this Brazilian woman literally sucked the life out of me! That is what they do! Make no mistake about it!
If Sashababy is legal to live in this country, and being a Brazilian woman that is indeed a BIG "if", then I can only imagine the harm she has caused any and every American man she encounters.
I am sure I will catch a lot of hell for this, and that is fine with me, but I felt the need to post this as I truly believe that all Brazilian women have an agenda, cannot be trusted, and should be avoided, no matter how physicially beautiful they may be. I know from very painful experience.
Tampa Escorts Reviewer said...
LMFAO HOLY SHIT BBL...that was funny to read..wow is all i got to say
bellybuttonlover said...
As funny as it may seem, I am serious about my feelings regarding Brazilian women. As beautiful as they are, they are toxic and hurtful people! I know too well! I honestly believe that my life would have been a bazillion times better if it weren't for my marriage to a Brazilian woman, especially one who entered this country illegally and preyed upon a US citizen (me) in order to obtain permanent resident alien status.
Don't get me wrong. I love latina women (especially Colombian women)! Just not Brazilians! If it were up to me, I would send them all back to their country of origin and let the poor Brazilian men deal with them!
nautilus said...
Bellybuttonlover, I fell for you Brother. I too am an Engineer still recovering from the effects of a toxic female. Mine was Hungarian; a bit of the qypsy. Toxic women come in all flavors, as do worthless men. You pay your money (and heart) and you takes your chances.
Sasha is not a product of Brazilian culture. She was born and raised in Florida by parents of Italian and Brazilian heritage.
She's a true sweetheart; as or more GFE than any girl I've dated in real life.
Hang in there and try to leave the past behind. Never forget your mistakes, but don't let them haunt you. Life's too short!
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There you have it guys. Avoid the Brazilian succubus, lest ye lose your job, plump up, and turn into a social retard. Someone should warn Tom Brady to dump Giselle Bundchen, otherwise he's going to be 300 pounds, talking to himself, and serving spicy hot dogs from a cart on the streets of Boston soon.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! Ha!!!
Many of us old mongers who know the area and the girls did call BS on some of his reviews (with me yours included). That's why he isn't posting on here anymore and we spread the word about his site being BS. We can't have someone like him doing that to good providers. There are so few around.
Sasha and the other provider are on thetruthabout a blog I agreed to contribute to I was the first to speak out on this asshole and all I got was angry emails from his posse.
I contributed to the blog, only to have the females in question state that my number was not working Hmmmmmmmmmmm. I revoke my contribution to the blog even though it was a true story these females used my experience to vindicate themselves and try to put me out of business. I cannot speak for them but I have my own story to tell but by the way they dealt with me (asking for my help and then telling folks my phone is off! ) I have no comment.
All Is that no one gave a damn about him ruining my reputation but I guess being Ebony has it's dissadvantages in every aspect of this life!
Member #5237
10-08-08, 04:01
All Is that no one gave a damn about him ruining my reputation but I guess being Ebony has it's dissadvantages in every aspect of this life!Don`t use your skin color as an excuse to blame other people for any problems you may be expierencing. It`s all pink inside. And if it`s clean inside, we don`t care what color wrapping paper you have.
G Money Cool
10-08-08, 22:08
Don`t use your skin color as an excuse to blame other people for any problems you may be expierencing. It`s all pink inside. And if it`s clean inside, we don`t care what color wrapping paper you have.Lighten up, Francis. This thread has been dedicated to exposing Josh as a fraud, using whatever evidence we could gather. You were mentioned on the thread, as were others. If you still haven't figured it out, we're on the same side on this one.
G Money Cool
10-08-08, 22:10
. Lighten up, Francis (or in this case, Miss Lady). This thread has been dedicated to exposing Josh as a fraud, using whatever evidence we could gather. You were mentioned on the thread, as were others. If you still haven't figured it out, we're on the same side on this one.
Not a lady I know, but if you transpose the words in his blog (verified escorts instead of escorts verified), you'll get an interesting and different perspective of "Josh" or "JR" who this lady says is boppin Kandy currently for freebies. I'll post the link, but I realize this may not be allowed to stay -- but since so many people enjoy bashing him, I thought I'd share what I stumbled upon while searching:
http://www.tampaverifiedescorts.********.com/
She's apparently a BBW who is wanting to alert ladies about what Josh does to get his freebies. I don't know her (and she's frankly not my type) but I thought others might enjoy what she has to say on this topic.
Some of her words: "...We all may lose here but I'm not going down alone and will take anyone with me who allows him to use them to slander my business and my reputation. Josh don't mess around with my bad reputation, I have worked very hard to be the baddest ***** out here. Something you are about to discover very fast.
I do hate when foolish men underestimate the power I have as a WOMAN! The photos below are the same photos that JOSH posted on his fake ass blog full of wanna be's. Lets face it, by the time I'm done with this blog, I will teach that boy a few things about respecting WOMEN! I guess I should have told him and Kandy, that one thing I get off on is the brutal public humiliation of sad ass liars and stalkers!
Call Me, 941 536 5941 to check out My SKILLS! "
And she posts an image of Josh, which I'm reposting here (Management, remove if you need to).
G Money Cool
10-21-08, 09:39
Not a lady I know, but if you transpose the words in his blog (verified escorts instead of escorts verified), you'll get an interesting and different perspective of "Josh" or "JR" who this lady says is boppin Kandy currently for freebies. I'll post the link, but I realize this may not be allowed to stay -- but since so many people enjoy bashing him, I thought I'd share what I stumbled upon while searching:
http://www.tampaverifiedescorts.********.com/
She's apparently a BBW who is wanting to alert ladies about what Josh does to get his freebies. I don't know her (and she's frankly not my type) but I thought others might enjoy what she has to say on this topic.
Some of her words: "...We all may lose here but I'm not going down alone and will take anyone with me who allows him to use them to slander my business and my reputation. Josh don't mess around with my bad reputation, I have worked very hard to be the baddest ***** out here. Something you are about to discover very fast.
I do hate when foolish men underestimate the power I have as a WOMAN! The photos below are the same photos that JOSH posted on his fake ass blog full of wanna be's. Lets face it, by the time I'm done with this blog, I will teach that boy a few things about respecting WOMEN! I guess I should have told him and Kandy, that one thing I get off on is the brutal public humiliation of sad ass liars and stalkers!
Call Me, 941 536 5941 to check out My SKILLS! "
And she posts an image of Josh, which I'm reposting here (Management, remove if you need to).I did see that site. He must have tried to "verify" her for a freebie and she snapped. And if you go to Josh's blog, he's got some links to sites that purport to have this woman in a BDSM chatroom threatening another dominatrix's children. Don't know where the truth lies, other than Josh continues to get into hornets nests by trying to bully escorts. I'm sure he is bopping Kandy for freebies. It's well documented that his MO is to offer a review for a freebie (or for cold hard cash), and then to trash any girl who refuses. Kandy has good reviews, therefore we can conclude she went along with his scam.
As if we needed any more proof that his site is a thinly veiled agency site, he now has added a sidebar on the front page for the "Featured Provider of the Week". Wonder what the girls have to do to get on that?
That's picture is not him so odviously she's lieing to promote herself some how
G Money Cool
10-22-08, 08:04
That's picture is not him so odviously she's lieing to promote herself some howThis seems interesting. New poster comes on and is sure the photo isn't Josh. Could it be that's because. You are Josh?
This seems interesting. New poster comes on and is sure the photo isn't Josh. Could it be that's because. You are Josh?
That photo was taken off the ******* page that was given to me by Kandy and if anyone wants to see it, as of this posting it's still there. I have saved all the archives from the account and if you want to look it up go to ******* and put this number at the end of the url 98913948 he has since changed it and put a real name on it that's clearly a fake name. He has also added a photo that was not there before. He called himself MOE and claims to have graduated at this school. Anyone who is interested can go to this school and get the graduation list for 2007 if they want to follow up.
Mobster Moe's Schools
National Aviation Academy A & P School
Clearwater,FL
Graduated: 2007
Student status: Alumni
Degree: Other
Major: Aviation Maintenance
this information has since been taken off his ******* page. Kandy also told me that he lives behind the target once you go over the courtney cambel causeway there is a target on the left and he lives in the apartments back there or so Kandy says. She told me she met him in a bar and it was HER CHOICE to have sex with him for reviews. If the photo is not him, which I'm sure it is since he was so quick to claim it's not.
I never read the comments on his blog till today after seeing reference to them here. The woman who made that blog reported my kids to the state and I have been in battle for years. Any mother who had her kids taken because she was the best in her field, of Financial Domination would indeed wish the same and worst on the kids of the woman who attacked hers. I make no apologies for that and still hope that they pay for what she has tried to do to my family. That's another story which I'm playing out in the courts even today. I have a few blogs of my own that tells more of that story and how the death of one little girl whose mother was a dominatrix, resulted in thousands of children being taken from their parents by the state of Florida. Another story like I said but I have been dealing with this kind of stuff for years and Josh has been reported to the feds and they are watching his blog. I made sure of that because I know he is hurting women out here because I have spoken with a few of them. I have seen first hand how he took my number and began posting all over the net how I had a free car to give away and I had to get each person who called to flag the ad and report him for abuse which they did and that was resulting in only one day of getting hundreds of phone calls back to back. It was very sad to tell these people who were desperate for a car that the post was a hoax. It was not until late that night when he decided to call me over and over again that I walked up to 2 police officers and told them what he was doing and, That was the end of his calls and I'm looking forward to the day that he gets what he has coming to him.
I got a text message from jasmine who claimed that I had someone pull a gun on Kandy the night before and somehow blamed it on jasmine, when I could not get her to respond to my phone calls, return text or emails I chalked it up to just more lies and lost all respect for Jasmine. She is the one who gave me info on Josh including his main phone number. Which I have if anyone wants.
It just struck me as odd that she would text me but then refuse my attempts to find out what the hell she was speaking about. So the question here is. Did someone REALLY pull a gun on Kandy or did Jasmine Lie to me? Jasmine is also the one who gave me Josh's main number and when I called it he had Kandy call me back to play as if I had the wrong number. So when I called Jasmine back to find out why she gave me the wrong number she called him back 3 way with me on the phone and he told her that I had gotten his main number and how he had kandy call me back. I find it odd that she would stack the deck against him but for her fear of bad reviews kiss his ass while giving others his personal information.
I have had women call me up while I was out to dinner to accuse me of flagging them, which I found frusterating and amusing that I am so good I can flag someone while out to dinner. People really need to do their math. Flagging someone would take a hell of a lot of time and would be non productive and even bellybuttonloser in his own post as flattering as he is attempting to be admits that my post were getting hit very hard being flagged. So I'm getting flagged so this is all stragety on his part to make it look as though I have nothing better to do than flag someone when in fact I purchased new verified accounts just to make their job of flagging me much harder. I also purchased an ip changer so I can beat that little system. So I'm flagging, but having to put out money for ip changers and extra accounts to keep from getting flagged. Sounds like that makes total sense to me.
As Far as that bellybuttonloser, I spoke to several of the girls who advised me not to see him as he was just creepy. He was always begging for photos of my belly button and did not have the cash to make me happy. Yes I will abandon a man who does not measure up. The fact that he supports josh convinces me that I was right in not seeing him. As Far as telling him he would have to make a deposit, I have operated that way for 10 years and depending on the guy I sometimes will require a deposit and other times not. If they want to take the stance of collecting photos and talking about their fetish then they are going to pay. If they want to act like a man and make a date and treat me like a woman then there is a chance I will meet them.
I don't understand why some have the need to dig so hard into others lives. I made the blog about josh but did not promote it. I was quite happy with it just being out here as I have a life to live, family to take care of and wonderful guys to keep me happy. I ran a chat for many years and was quite successful at it. So much so it became a haven for men like Michael Leahry who took up space in the room for 4 years playing the same games josh plays, only he used yahoo booters to attack women instead of flagging but the end was the same, he convinced them that it was me. Later he was arrested for having sex with minors and his MO is the same as Josh. He has to protect his interest. The only person who benefits from flagging is Josh. He flags, then offers them his support gets on their good side and just like michael did, he gains their trust he can get what he wants. This is an old game and I don't see how people can be so surprised that broke men find other ways to get what they want. I guess I'm so jealous of other women I have nothing better to do than to start a chat room with intent of teaching women a better way to take the cash then attack them. This lasted sometime and cost me physical custody of my kids which I'm still fighting. People have harassed me for much of the time I'm on the net because My personality is very strong and I have never hid behind any computer. Men flock to me and I don't know why other than they love strong confident women and guys like josh have a lot to fear from a woman like myself. He has me on his site and when I decide enough is enough I will make sure I deal with him but right now I'm giving him enough rope to hang himself with. I like to watch men like him do the saddam swing on their own lies.
I'm sure the person who claimed that photo was not him is him. People will be real quick to make you doubt yourself. If it was not his photo he would be sitting there going that ***** put up the wrong photo, let them think it's me. He would not be posting under new names that the photo is not him.
The only way josh is able to get away with this is because these women he is dealing with don't have internet skills and they think they need him. People claim that a woman won't have sex for reviews and that's bullshit pure and simple. He promotes them and most of the women, I'm sure don't even go to that blog, hence why his supporters are men. It's not rocket science and a woman like myself with her own web skills would have no use for him but the women on that blog have little or no webskills and feel they need him. Truth is the men on that blog are not huge financial contributors and for that reason alone I don't see how anyone benefits from being there other than their street walker donations which is about what you get from those men. I'm not speaking of them all but most men can do their own math, have their own brains and know how to keep themselves from getting ripped off. Those who have gotten ripped off will openly admit to being stupid for letting it happen. The men on that blog who support it, personally I have met a few of them and their budget is nothing to make me want to keep seeing them. I have tossed many men because I can pick and choose and stick to the standards that I set for myself and so few men out here meet those standards.
I'm a dominatrix who does not openly promote it at this time but this does not mean that the men I meet don't serve and please me. Anyone who has ever read my ads and those who have not can go back to the bellybuttonloser post on the josh loser blog and see that I am vague in my speaking with men becasue guys like bellybutton are too damn nosy and have nothing to offer. Men with a lot to offer won't be so quick to risk it all by asking, saying or doing the wrong things. From the time a man contacts me it's a process of elimination. Keeping the best for myself and tossing back those who are less than desireable makes this one fun little fishing game. Sometimes you end up with stalkers like josh and weak men will follow him like pack dogs as anyone with an education understands just what I'm speaking of here. Personally I get mine. I still have men around the world who send me cash, I still have my phone lines on niteflirt and can do paymail and other things to bring in the cash. I'm a cuckoldresss who enjoys playing the field and I'm never going to be here to service any man. So the bellybuttonlosers of the world can stick like glue to fools like josh and enjoy their lives without me in it. I have been out here for almost 10 years and much of that time has been spent speaking to 100 men a day so I think I know how to pick them.
I don't want anyone thinking that I'm using this fool to promote myself, I posted some links to some of my other sites on my blog when I began getting emails. I joined this site some time ago but have never used sites as a means to promote myself. That will change I'm sure as It's about time I tap into resources that I have never used before. There is much and I do mean MUCH I can teach women out here but why bother? There will always be some man who jumps in the mix and tries to get his way and when their cocks are doing the talking the only way you can stop them is to kill them. It's pointless for me to spend my time reading the ads of women because by the time I read my own emails and post my own ads and deal with the many jerks and work on my many blogs I simply don't have time or motive to waste my time on harassing women out here. There is no benefit to me and if one person can convince anyone that any woman got rich on harassing, flagging and stalking other women then I would like to know how that's done because with my vast knowledge and experience in making money on the net that's not even anywhere on my list. Being a dominatrix I know men are sluts, I know they play the field and I know their think with their little heads. I'm 40, not a fool and since I don't make my money off women, there is not much of a motive to harass and threaten them.
I know the way people are they tend to follow the crowd and often will get off their focus anytime there is new blood to be consumed. Don't forget your little project here is the josh worm and not me. I did not post my blog, did not promote it here, but I do have the right to come and address the issue when it seems already people have taken bullshit off his blog and seem to think I don't know what I'm speaking of. I on the other hand do as I please and promise josh that we are going to meet face to face and he is going to pay a dear price for putting me in his little bullshit game. I'm taking on Judge Barbas and the state of florida over my kids and my right to make my living any way I see fit and I will take that little bastard on too. I'm entitled to my beliefs and ways and have the right to live my life, any way I see fit reguardless of what the norm is. I do not infringe on others rights and I don't like when they attempt to infringe on mine. If he wants to put me on his crappy blog, then every man who sees it can come join The HoneyHole.
G Money Cool
10-23-08, 09:07
Any mother who had her kids taken because she was the best in her field, of Financial Domination would indeed wish the same and worst on the kids of the woman who attacked hers. I make no apologies for that and still hope that they pay for what she has tried to do to my family.
Another story like I said but I have been dealing with this kind of stuff for years and Josh has been reported to the feds and they are watching his blog. I made sure of that because I know he is hurting women out here because I have spoken with a few of them.
It was not until late that night when he decided to call me over and over again that I walked up to 2 police officers and told them what he was doing and, That was the end of his calls and I'm looking forward to the day that he gets what he has coming to him.
There will always be some man who jumps in the mix and tries to get his way and when their cocks are doing the talking the only way you can stop them is to kill them. Ok, I've tried to selectively quote a couple of things here because that post was so long.
First of all, you absolutely have a right to fight back against Josh. Everyone here knows he is manipulating girls, and his pack of followers are either naive or in on the scam with him. Either way, you are right to put up your counter-blog, expose him, give out his name, etc. Some of the tactics he's used on you (I. E. The free car postings to flood your phone and waste your time, the flagging) are the same he used on Layla, Torrie, and others from his site. The volume of info against him is big.
That said, when you make remarks about wishing harm on someone's children for them wronging you, or saying "the only way to stop him is to kill him", you lose your moral high ground. I'm sorry some woman tried to have your kids taken away. If you want to wish harm on her for wronging you, that's one thing. To hope her kids are harmed is not just wrong, it's evil and more than a little creepy.
As for your point about the feds and/or local cops caring what Josh does, I'd be surprised. Operation Flea Collar is very fresh in people's minds, and I doubt any law enforcement agencies around here are interested in attempting another sting on a review site. Unless an escort walks in and presses charges, he is going to keep getting a pass. And what escort is going to sacrifice herself to take him down?
The only way to marginalize him is to remove his support base. The girls who go along with him. Every escort I meet, I tell them to steer clear of him. Post on backpage or here, not CL. When you post stuff about killing people and wishing harm on children, it makes it easy for him to paint you as crazy, and he uses that to convince girls they need to stick together and with him.
Make a rational case, give them some credible sources (like this forum), and people listen.
Nardo Life
10-23-08, 19:18
I have been following this thread and I must say that both parties are way out of line. It's fairly obvious to anyone with brain cells that josh is a slimy bastard running a scam. It is also easy to see that this BBW has a ton of issues and clearly has some kinda agenda other than what she has sharred with us. I personally wouldn't pay that beast a dime, and she claims to have men flocking to her. BS. I love my thick women but she is brutal. If I was a female in this business and I had a child, that would be it, I would be out of the business. I love my SWs and CL girls and escorts, and I never judge anyone but if you are raising children you should not ne in this profession. And if you choose to stay in this business and get your children taken by the state then its on you, nobody elses fault. This is all IMHO. I thank god that I am a man that partakes, rather than a women who provides. Seems like so much drama involved in being a working girl. I used to run a strip club in my early 20s in Vegas and I used to always say "you have to schedule 20 girls just to get 9 to show for work", there are always non-stop issues with girls in this business.
BTW, josh is clearly a scumbag and in no way am I defending him, but alot of you girls are so damn shady it leaves you open to these types of scams.
R Consultant
10-23-08, 20:05
Why do people even deal with this guy if hes such an issue? I know most women would tell him where to get off at. Call the cops for stalking them- the issues are endless.
I'm sure someone on here has had this happen and has a way to deal with a person that is obsessed with following people around.
I would be nervous to blackmale a woman and then let her have sex with me. She could so easily say she was forced and hes semen is everywhere.
I see that guy going away for a long time to make a new friends at his nice prison system.
Happy Hunting..
Originally Posted by Tampabbw
I know the way people are they tend to follow the crowd and often will get off their focus anytime there is new blood to be consumed. Don't forget your little project here is the josh worm and not me. I did not post my blog, did not promote it here, but I do have the right to come and address the issue when it seems already people have taken bullshit off his blog and seem to think I don't know what I'm speaking of. I on the other hand do as I please and promise josh that we are going to meet face to face and he is going to pay a dear price for putting me in his little bullshit game. I'm taking on Judge Barbas and the state of florida over my kids and my right to make my living any way I see fit and I will take that little bastard on too. I'm entitled to my beliefs and ways and have the right to operate my business any way I see fit regardless of what the norm is.
It is also easy to see that this BBW has a ton of issues and clearly has some kinda agenda other than what she has sharred with us. I personally wouldn't pay that beast a dime. Oh pardo me for not sharing my life story with you or I should just excuse you for not understanding the reason for my post in the first place. However you have been no disappointment because I knew what would happen when I posted because it's always men on these kinds of sites critiquing these women. As far as you not understanding why women with children would be in this business, try speaking to one who had to go into the business because her husband lost his job and health insurance who now needs to pay for her daughters 60 thousand dollar medical problems, or try having your husband die and you have to find a way. You think women in this business choose to go into it? I don't think you spend much time speaking TO these women. Personally I hope more women speak up but we know they won't because just as much as you men love fresh meat you love fresh blood and they know better than to even post a Hello, to you guys. If you want to know more about me, just ask. It's obvious by your post that you are holding out and personally I would not take a dime from such a man who spends way too much time on streetwalker forums. Proving once again we are all entitled to out opinions and even you have the right to go spend your 40 bucks on streetwalkers who clearly have ISSUES. As Far as the strip club you claim to used to run. I was in a strip club not so long ago and had a little chat with a woman who was upset that her boss said if she goes home to her sick year old son she would be fired. She was very upset but she could not afford to leave. Please don't think that a woman would not do ANYTHING to support their kids so don't be so shocked otherwise you come across as dense and just plain gullible.
That said, when you make remarks about wishing harm on someone's children for them wronging you, or saying "the only way to stop him is to kill him", you lose your moral high ground. I'm sorry some woman tried to have your kids taken away. If you want to wish harm on her for wronging you, that's one thing. To hope her kids are harmed is not just wrong, it's evil and more than a little creepy. Pardon me for being amused that you would be in a sex forum complainning that someone is going to lose her high moral ground. Am I the only one who finds this amusing or do some of you people out here have high morals that you are gonna lose by seeing a hooker? OK just a little play on words here, but your advice although I was not at all shocked you totally missed hundreds of good points in my post to dwell on a few low points. Typical and very much expected which is why my post clearly asked you to stay focused and not go after fresh blood.
Although I understand what you are saying, I won't be taking the high road on this one, I will be embracing my maternal instinct and my right to kill and wish death on anyone who tries to harm my family. My hope is that this woman gets what she deserves and the only way she can get what she deserves is for someone to do to her family what she has tried to do to mine. I call it JUSTIFIED ANGER!
Most would call it karma! Knock the woman who speaks out loud her desire to see such harm come to such a vile beast and you want to attack, Or for a better word PROVOKE others when not one of you have what it takes to take down the ONE ISSUE which is josh. However you have not disappointed me because this is typical of what takes places on these review boards. I think I may open a new site where the men get reviewed by penis size, their performance and how they smell. Once this site is out there you guys will have to be in the position I'm in right now, of having to defend yourself to a bunch of pure and simple losers and god only knows why but if I don't, you fools will go on with your OPINIONS, till you choke on them. Keep in mind I have over 10 thousand emails from these men to go back through and research. If I posted the content just from those emails with email info and such would you men still be so quick to talk smack? I'm sure you would as it's just the nature of the beast and If you want to make ME your topic here, be prepared to get down to the nitty gritty.
Now assuming that some of you are educated and able to stay on topic, Go to CL REVIEWS and see what he has done to this woman.
I just read a post from a woman under CL Reviews, I wish the admin would move to this board because this is where it belongs. She speaks about how josh ruined her life and this is a very real problem with men like him. Women like jasmine and kandi are not really his friend because they want to be. They are nice to him because he is not one to leave them any choice. THEY WILL DO WHAT HE WANTS to save their own asses.
I'm posting here, hopefully with permission from the admin, this mans OWN WORDS taken off his m* **ace page the same night the link was given to me. Read it, this is the man who is among us.
Below was his threat to me.. Which is why I can't stand by and let him do this to hundreds of other women. Please remember, I have seen this happen before.
MH 411 (9/6/2008 5:25:33 AM): ill show you in the am
peachkaa (9/6/2008 5:25:36 AM): we will see
MH 411 (9/6/2008 5:25:37 AM): wrong move on you part
MH 411 (9/6/2008 5:25:40 AM): you fucked with the wrong guy
peachkaa (9/6/2008 5:25:45 AM): will see
MH 411 (9/6/2008 5:25:52 AM): theres nothing to see
MH 411 (9/6/2008 5:26:00 AM): i expect offline meessages tomorrow when i log in
MH 411 (9/6/2008 5:26:04 AM): begging me to stop
MH 411 (9/6/2008 5:26:06 AM): have funj
MH 411 (9/6/2008 5:26:12 AM): handling over 2000 calls
MH 411 (9/6/2008 5:26:16 AM): and over 50 voicemails
MH 411 (9/6/2008 5:26:22 AM): whatever your inbox can handle
His first Mistake........ Was showing me what he was doing. I'm sure he was freaking out at how his ads were getting flagged so damn fast. All you have to do is explain to each caller, it's a hoax. Tell them how to flag the ads. Are you looking at that ad? Please look to the top right of the page and hit one of those links. Please follow up with an email explaining to blank list, how your time was wasted calling me after getting your hopes up because someone is harassing this woman. When you play on peoples emotions like he does with the HUNDREDS and I'm not kidding here people, HUNDREDS of calls you hurt a lot of people. I heard every story, I need the car for my brother who is in college, I need it for my aunt who is raising my dead sisters kids. They were more than happy to report him to abuse at blank list.
Here are the posting id's of the accounts used to harass me. You can post 3 ads with each account. Keep in mind that a man who has many accounts would stop posting if his ads were getting flagged and then his accounts were being reported and then lost. When I paid for my accounts, I paid 3 bucks per account. Do the math here and this is 25 dollars worth of accounts that he was losing fast. HE can be stopped but sadly the women he is harassing will probably never see this blog because they can barely get on to cl and post and often don't even have Internet and someone else post for them. I know this because I have called a few of them to see if they even knew they were on his blog, many of them had never seen the blog and had no idea they were on it at that time.
posting id 832674735
posting id 832603177
posting id 832807719 north carolina
posting id 832804706 alabama
posting id 832808989 california
posting id 832811756 Oklahoma
posting id 832807719 North Carolina
Posting id 832582469
His next move would be to post me on his blog. I searched myself here since I was not sure how long ago I made this account and my very first post was about this very issue. I'm not sure if it was posted in this thread or if it was moved to this thread since I don't address the issue of him but of the flagging in that post. This is a man who can harass and threaten a woman for MONTHS and even years if let to go that long.
This was taken from his http://www.m* s*a*e.com/98913948 Right after I first spoke to Kandi. He knew I found it as I told him that I had his photo and he closed off his m* *pa**. It was at this time he changes his blog to invite only. Page """""""""""""Well what do people want to know. I live in Clearwater, Florida. I graduated as an aviation Maintenance Technician. After getting 2 Assoc. Degrees, I realized its not what I wanted to do so I moved to Clearwater (That's the Tampa area for all you out there that don't know the area) in June of 2006. Moved down here with no friends, family or knowing anything. Kinda spur of the moment thing, plus thats where my school was located. So far its working out alright, I'm having a blast in Florida and I've made a lot of friends down here. The only bad thing is, you can't leave your windows open during a hot and humid day because the rain is unpredictable here. One day it will not pour and the next, it pours like crazy. I use to be the guy who looked for love, even under rocks (its a funny story, you will have to ask me sometime about it), but I realized you can't go searching for it, IT (love) will find you when the time is right. In the meantime, I'm just enjoying the time I have on this earth. If you ask my friends, they will tell you I am the guttsiest (is that even a word? LOL) guy on this planet. I will talk to anyone, and flirt with any girl. People usually have a fear of rejection, but you only get rejected if you're being an ass. If you approach someone, and just talk to them, they will end up being a really good friend (and I have a lot of those at work, school, and through mutual friends)
I will say that I don't treat everyone equally, but for good reason. If I have someone in my life or if someone crosses my path that is a complete jerk to me, I am not gonna treat them with respect because THEY DON'T DESERVE IT. I will treat you the way you treat me, it's only fair. I'm willing to give people a second chance. But there will be no, and I repeat. NO, third chances. Mess up once and with good reason I might be willing to give you a second chance. Mess up a second time then thats it. If you're smart enough, you wouldn't do what you did the first time. People usually only get one chance with me. Its ok to forget about me but when I'm gone & I forget about you don't come crawling back to me cause I'll look at you as if your someone I NEVER even knew.
I'm a patient person but sometimes, I hate waiting. I can't stand still. I often stare off into space. But I am good listener. People often say that I'm easy to talk to. I'm the type of person that you could walk up to and I'll just start talking as if I know you. I'm not as shy as I appear to be. Except in some cases. I am. Put me in a situation where I don't feel comfortable, and you'll get the shy me, put me in a place where its like being at home, you'll get the outgoing me. One-on-one, I'm outgoing. Put me with a group (that I don't know) then I'm shy and quiet. I'm not just gonna randomly ignore someone and brush them off and walk away so if you ever see me, don't be afraid to come say Hi. BUT if you push my buttons then I probably will snap
I am VERY Random. I'm used to the crazy looks I often get. I'm used to people telling me that I've lost my mind. I'm used to it all. It keeps me young. People often think I'm weird because of it. I AM weird. I'm so abnormal I'm normal!
With time you will find that I am a very sarcastic person. Sarcasm itself is great! Given the chance, I'll make you weep at your own stupidity. Its especially good when somebody says something stupid. Chances are common sense isn't their friend so that's when you should step in. People often take my sarcasm as being rude or mean. I'm not. Its just how I am. I tend to tease people with my sarcasm. Just suck it up. You'll learn to love it with time.
I'm a child at heart. I don't run around acting like a child unless I'm playing around. When I'm excited I tend to jump around (in one spot) or clap repeatedly at a pretty fast pace. Some people love it, others think I'm crazy. Others choose to stare and act as if they're better than you. It's only 'cause they don't know how to have fun anymore and just woke up one day and chose to be bitter until they die.
One thing everyone needs to know is that all of my friends are important to me, and if someone is going to be in my life, they need to understand that and deal with it. I will not give up my friends or the people who I'm close to for anyone or anything!
I HATE cockiness, stuck up, snotty people! There's a VERY fine line between being confident and being cocky, just know your limits. Arrogance isn't a trait you want associated with you. Hate people who are judgmental. I HATE liars. I despise deceitfulness. Granted everybody lies (If you say you don't, then you're lying), but don't be a compulsive liar. You cross the line the second that every word that comes out of your mouth is complete bs. I am what you call, a pushover. Somewhat. I do everything I can to please people, but don't take advantage of it. If I can't do what you want, then find someone else who will, or better yet DO IT YOURSELF. I'm done doing things for other people instead of myself. People cannot rely on me to do everything forever because I won't always be here. I guess after doing that for so long, now people expect it, and they become assholes because I don't do it for them anymore. Its a bitter pill to swallow but it has to go down. I used to care a lot about what people thought of me then I learned I definitely can't please everyone. Some people will like you, and some people will hate you. But I really don't care either way. I'm not losing sleep over it.
I've learned that people are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered but sometimes you have to forgive them for that arrogance. Lifes' to short to worry about stuck up, snotty and self centered people who think the world revolves around them. Be kind anyway. If you are successful you will win some false friends and true enemies. I've learned that if you are honest and frank, people may cheat you; Be honest and frank anyway. What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight. If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous. Let them be jealous I say. It's not hurting you in any way shape or form. I believe in Karma, and what goes around comes around.
After reading this, you're probably thinking "this guy talks a lot about himself", I really don't (but also keep in mind this is your "about me" section, so you're SUPPOSED to talk about yourself. I wrote this as detailed as possible that way I won't get emails asking me to describe myself (which I hate), because after all, everything about me could be summed up in the paragraphs above """"""""
This guy is seriously dangerous, and I don't know Kandi, and have only spoken with Jasmine on the phone a few times. I would love to see them both get away from him and to see him where he belongs, behind bars.
I have read through this thread and want to shed light on a few things that I think I can also clear up. I can't address who said what but I think I do have the answers.
Originally josh had me on his blog and claimed I was in partnership with this guy and his wife who ran an agency. I believe his name was Tom but it was not long after that post that this man calls me to claim that we are supposed to know each other. I told him I had no idea who he was and he set out to explain. Aside from what josh had posted about their criminal records I knew nothing of the person I was speaking to. He introduced himself, and explained that josh used to drive for his escort service. He also went on to say that he only worked for them for a short time, a few months. He said that josh decided to get his own girls and run them because he wanted to do the same thing but the problem was his girls were getting busted and he would abandon them in jail. I done a new search and when I first searched his number, there was an ad with great html skills full color advertising a woman on CL several months earlier. The ad is since gone but I seen it with my own eyes so I know he is working girls. There was also a girl on there who had been busted and had tattoo's on her neck and I'm not sure if she is on his blog now but she had a very bad review and I also gave her the information I found out on him. This tom guy was given the information I had on josh including his phone number and location, including the kind of car he drives which is an older model green car which someone in this forum claims is a cavalier. I would also note that the car josh advertised that I owned was also a green cavalier. I may have a photo of it somewhere. This all took place in the time frame that the post here was posted about him making up with a felon and I now notice that I seem to stand alone on his blog. I made a new networking site which I have 100 men on who know me and many I have met. Prior to being harassed by josh I had no thought about hosting another website but after seeing him out here, I feel there is more need than ever to have safe places where people can meet and greet. We can't stop all the Josh's of the world but we can stop this one. I just wonder how many people out here are willing to take on this creep and how many are going to fold. I have bought the domain name I'm going to be using so look for it soon. On one of my other sites. Don't be an idiot and put too much focus on me, if for no other reason than it will make me put too much focus on you. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND MY AGENDA READ THE NAME OF THIS FORUM. I'm really starting to like the idea of a review site where women review men. We could probably fill it up with the same men who live in these forums because you guys are the worst when it comes to attacking and damaging a womans business.
Hard Working 19
10-24-08, 14:41
Originally Posted by Tampabbw
because I knew what would happen when I posted because it's always men on these kinds of sites critiquing these women..
That is EXACTLY what this web site is for. Men sharing their opinions about women in the sex trade who are trying to get dollars out of our pockets.
Originally Posted by Tampabbw ...and my right to kill and wish death on anyone who tries to harm my family..
You had better be confronted with a weapon and be in fear for your life when you kill someone or you will probably wind up in prison for a long time and only see your children on visiting days.
Originally Posted by Tampabbw: However you have not disappointed me because this is typical of what takes places on these review boards. I think I may open a new site where the men get reviewed by penis size, their performance and how they smell. ..
Again, this is a web site for men to post reviews of prostitutes. Women who have sex for money. If you don't like the size of my penis or if I have an offensive odor, don't take my money and spread your legs...
Originally Posted by Tampabbw: If you want to make ME your topic here, be prepared to get down to the nitty gritty...
You are doing a fine job of making YOU the topic.
Originally Posted by Tampabbw: I'm really starting to like the idea of a review site where women review men. We could probably fill it up with the same men who live in these forums because you guys are the worst when it comes to attacking and damaging a womans business.
You are really starting to sound like you have anger issues and need professional help.
[QUOTE=Hard Working 19]You had better be confronted with a weapon and be in fear for your life when you kill someone or you will probably wind up in prison for a long time and only see your children on visiting days.[QUOTE]
That's not necessarily so any more. There is now a presumption in Florida Statutes that a person unlawfully in your home or car is intent upon causing death or great bodily harm:
776.013 Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.--
(1) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:
(a) The person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person's will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and
(b) The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.
The presumption of force or bodily harm is found in (4):
(4) A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person's dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.
Note, however, that there is an exception to this:
(2) The presumption set forth in subsection (1) does not apply if:
(c) The person who uses defensive force is engaged in an unlawful activity or is using the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle to further an unlawful activity
One can also stand their ground outside the home or car:
(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
Again, though, if an individual is engaged in unlawful activity, the presumption does not apply and one must be able to defend the use of deadly force. In general, however, one no longer has to retreat and one can presume an individual attempting to enter a dwelling or vehicle is intent on doing harm.
None of this has been tested yet but there have been a few reports since the stand your ground law was passed in Florida of people coming home and finding someone in the house and shooting them. In those few instances, charges were not made against the homeowner.
[QUOTE=Irish Male2][QUOTE=776.013 Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.-- QUOTE]I love Laws :)
J Melbourne27
10-25-08, 02:40
Wow. You guys are soooo far Off Topic.
#1 This forum is for GFE Reviewer Scams
#2 There ARE Forums that escorts use to blacklist johns, THAT is where this convo should be taking place.
#3 Many of the items previously posted should probably be flagged because they are SO far off topic. I'm not going to flag them, but someone probably should.
ACTUALLY, if someone has the link to the Escorts Forum where girls discuss johns, please link it. I'm sure this lady would appreciate it as this guy has been harassing her and she should warn the other girls.
G Money Cool
10-25-08, 08:22
Originally Posted by Tampabbw
... and I now notice that I seem to stand alone on his blog. The purpose of this forum IS to expose the scam. And some of the info you contributed is very helpful. Like the conversation you had with Tom Ambrose about Josh having drove for his agency before he went out on his own. Makes sense now why they had a dispute and Josh tried to smear him on the blog.
Trouble is you come in and spew your vitriol all over all men. You've got a siege mentality, and for some reason you think people on this forum are out to get you. I assure you, no one here is out to get you. Your problem is Josh. So if you have some way of getting him, then go do it, and come back here and tell us that the wicked erstwhile pimp is out of business.
Nardo Life
10-25-08, 10:25
Hate to say it but this woman is nuts. The classic nasty looking broad thats mad at the world but claims she's not. The classic BBW "I have flocks of men that will pay me anything I want", ok sure. The guys on this board has seen your type many, many times with our experience dealing with girls in this hobby of ours. Hard Working brought up many good points, and while you do have the right to wish harm on anybody you see fit (although LEO may differ with that) you also got to expect to take the bad karma that returns to you when you make statements like that.
That being said, I don't care about you or josh, I just wanted to state I think you are both scum from what I have observed. I know neither party (thank god) so I certainly could be wrong.
G Money Cool
10-26-08, 00:28
Hate to say it but this woman is nuts. The classic nasty looking broad thats mad at the world but claims she's not. The classic BBW "I have flocks of men that will pay me anything I want", ok sure. The guys on this board has seen your type many, many times with our experience dealing with girls in this hobby of ours. Hard Working brought up many good points, and while you do have the right to wish harm on anybody you see fit (although LEO may differ with that) you also got to expect to take the bad karma that returns to you when you make statements like that.
That being said, I don't care about you or josh, I just wanted to state I think you are both scum from what I have observed. I know neither party (thank god) so I certainly could be wrong.Then how does she have so much time to write poorly crafted notes here. My advice to the BBW - more Hemmingway, less Tolstoy.
1968ClassicBBW Yes I think I like it very much. Finally, something I can use.
As of late, the retardoescortreviewer has shut his blog off to invited guest only. Since my photos are on that blog, I should have the right to be there as well. This posted just so I could publically laugh at him. I told him my goal would be to have that blog shut down the instant he put my photos up. If it's not open to the public, then he has to work 10 times harder to promote it. He has been doing so by posting leo warnings all over the board, and when you contact him about them, he sends blog invitations after he makes sure you are not just trying to access his blog. I love paranoid people. It's closed to the PUBLIC so I'm halfway there
Up yours josh! I won't be taking my foot off your head, for a very long time! You forget, some of my guys have access to that blog LOL. I have eyes on the inside you fool!
Then how does she have so much time to write poorly crafted notes here. My advice to the BBW - more Hemmingway, less Tolstoy.
WTF are you speaking about here? Just show me where I said anything about having anything? What I have, or have not is my own business, unless I want to make it your business.
Seriously, I know I'm much more entertaining than other personalities you will encounter, however, don't let your mind slip into thoughts of me for too long. It can be very dangerous and addicting.
Don't you even dare think about looking at these photos I uploaded for the nice guys.
The rest of you guys who appreciate thick women, by all means enjoy them.
Member #5237
10-27-08, 03:48
WTF are you speaking about here? Just show me where I said anything about having anything? What I have, or have not is my own business unless I want to make it your business.
Seriously, I know I'm much more entertaining than other personalities you will encounter, however, don't let your mind slip into thoughts of me for too long. It can be very dangerous and you could become very addicted.
Don't you even dare think about looking at these photos I uploaded for the nice guys.
The rest of you guys who appreciate thick women, by all means enjoy them.Nice pictures, but would like to see your face.
G Money Cool
10-27-08, 10:19
WTF are you speaking about here? Just show me where I said anything about having anything? What I have, or have not is my own business, unless I want to make it your business.
Keep in mind I have over 10 thousand emails from these men to go back through and research.
Since you asked, this is the excerpt where you made it our business.
Look. As I've said before, I'm happy you are taking on Josh, as I think he is bad for business for everyone. That's why this forum exists. You have some valuable info to contribute, but it's intertwined with a lot of other stuff that is important to you but not to this forum. Please distill it down and it will make this forum all that much more effective.
Greetings everyone,
This thread is provided exclusively for discussing TampaReviewer / GFEReviewer's Scam.
If you are...
- An escort who wishes to promote your services, or...
- A forum member who wishes to critize an escort, or...
- If you wish to discuss any other subject other than TampaReviewer / GFEReviewer's Scam...
Then please post in another thread.
Thanks,
Jackson
Awwwwwwww he opened his blog back up to the public. I love making this fool dance. He is very predictable at this point. I've saved every photo off his blog and, it's time have some fun. I may make a new blog and call it , the ****** of joshlist LMAO.
Happy Hunting.
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Angeleyez727
10-30-08, 15:03
What happened to me was, I got a call one day, about 7 or 8 months ago, the guy on the other end asked me if I was interested in a website so I could pick up more business. Where I usually dont barter, I had already kind of been thinking about paying for someone to make one for me. The guy told me (Josh) that all he wanted was headache relief and he would make me a website that would bring me in twice as much business as I was getting off of CL. He went on to tell me that the last girls website he did got her so many calls that she could not even take them all. Basically he just made it sound great and I beleived him. He was supposed to take my pictures as well and claimed to be a great photographer. He told me what time he wanted to come and I explained to him that my roommate would be getting home shortly after he wanted to arrive but that my roommate was cool and we would have all the privacy we needed for the headache relief when it was time. He agreed but asked that we do the headache relief first, I agreed.
When he got to my house he wanted to jump right into the photos so I went along with it. Every photo he shot of me was horrid! He was taking the pictures from underneath my face rather then infront of over my face and that is not something a great photographer would do. I tried to even explain to him how to take the photos and how they would look better for me but he just didnt quite get it. I told him to forget the photos and we would just use the ones I already had. Shortly after that, my roommate gets home. I introduce them and we went into the room. I performed headache relief on him for atleast 25 min and he could not get off, he complained that he does not use condoms and said he was uncomfortable because my roommate had come home. I explained to him that I do not do anything unprotected because things like std's, hiv, herpes, hepatitus and multiple other diseases do not discriminate against my mouth. I told him that I would finish him another time because if he was going to make this website for me and help me get double the business I was already getting, then it was worth it.
He makes the website as promised. About a week goes by and I never got one single call from this site. But he is calling me constantly for another free BJ. I basically avoided him and asked him to just take the site down. I told him I was not going to do anything for him because I already did enough for absolutely NOTHING! And I was very upset about the outcome. Especially when he gave me such high hopes. He even went so far as to put his own picture of his self and another lady on what was supposed to be my site! And never took it down for months after I asked him to. A month or so goes by and I had not heard from him until one day I get this text and it was Josh asking me if I knew where to get some drugs. I told him I dont do drugs and that was the end of that.
A couple months later a friend of mine comes over and she mentions this verified blog spot and told me that the guy that came over to do my website was the one who made it. She wanted to show me what he had wrote about my sister and I. Now I had seen this site mentioned on CL a couple of times but me being myself, I never gave it a look or a second thought because it just sounded like a bunch of BS to me. I have seen girls get bashed on CL before and even I have been bashed because I accidently stood a guy up once because when I was getting ready to jump in the shower I literally knocked my phone right off the sink into the toilet. The guy came from sarasota to st. pete and could not get ahold of me when he got there obviously. That next day this guy had posted that my sister and I ripped him off and we had a ugly white pimp and then we had a black pimp and so on and so on.This went on for a couple of weeks and then finally it calmed down. So I surely wasnt interested in what that board was about because I have seen so many girls get bashed and lied on over the pettiest shit. But she showed me the site and what had been posted there about my sister and I. Nothing was said bad about myself except for the fact that he rated me as a 4 and I just thought that was kinda funny coming from him. What he posted about my sister I will not repeat but it was pretty bad considering he had never met her at all or even spoke to her. After that, I never went back on the site and frankly I had no ideal how to even get back to the site because my friend had googled it to begin with.
A few weeks after seeing the site. I get a call from my sister telling me that Josh had called her yelling at her to stop flagging "his girls"! And to tell me the same thing. He said he knew it was us because we had been looking at his site and he thinks we dont like him so it has to be us. I asked her for his phone number and I called him myself and asked him what his problem was. He was going off on me telling me how I would never work again if I dont listen to him and went on to tell me he knows Tampa Tori and she started this business and he can get her to stop it all for me and my sister. I tried explaining to him that I was not flagging anyone and I dont think my sister is either but he said I was lying and he knew it was us. After this conversation my ads were flagged constantly. As soon as they went up they were flagged and removed. I could not keep one single ad up to save my life. And I honestly still cant. I have messages on my phone still from where he has called threatening me that he was setting me up with the police, that his friends brother was a sherrif. He has called my sister and threatened he was going to kill her or beat her fingers off with a hammer. He has asked me, my sister, my friend who I was refering to in this post and several others for free samples, he wants to exchange for a good review on his site.
My business has completely slowed down and my accounts are blocked daily due to him and his friends flagging me. I honestly can say I am a good provider, I dont post for things I dont do and I have NEVER ripped anyone off. He has also made a post on backpage using a photo of me that he took that looked so bad of me and posted the BS site he made for me on it. He has posted my name and number in the free section of several different cities/states saying I had a free boat, jet skis, dell laptop, a free chevy cavalier and several other things so my phone would be swamped with calls. He has also done this to my sister and a couple other providers I will not mention. Also, on one of his posts on here(usasexguide) he mentions if he never met any of the women on his site then why do they post they are verified and mentioned some names, one being Tiffany the BBW.
Well he did infact meet Tiffany, he actually only met her the one time he came to my house and she was on her way out the door. He tried to offer her a site in exchange for headache releif as well but she never went through with it because obviously it was BS to begin with.
He did meet her mom Amber S though and apparently Tiffany feels like he did not ask her mom for a freebie for the good review on his site because she had mentioned to him that Tiffany was her daughter. Tiffany also told me he had text her one time asking for a free sample but she told him no. When I confronted him about it he then said something to her about how he didnt appreciate her telling me what was said between them and about a week later her ads started getting flagged constantly. He had also taken her number down from his site but apparently things are cool with them again and her new number and photos are up on his board. I asked her why she posts she is verified at all and she says she does it for the business because so many guys look to Josh as a god or something. Her mom also pretty much told me the same thing. I also have a voice mail of him telling me he told all of his girls and the hobbyist who are on his site to stop flagging my ads and they did for about a week but I go through at least 3 accounts a week due to my ads being flagged during mid day or night. He always says he dont ask for freebies but I am proof he has. He has also asked my sister for a freebie as well. He says who would give a freebie for a good review, I say plenty! I did it just for a website because I dont know how to make them and it was one of the biggest mistakes I made in a long time.
Someone actually wrote on CL that this thread was here and I am glad I found it so more people could hear my story and know what type of person
they are actually dealing with.
G Money Cool
10-30-08, 17:11
Maybe the TampaBBW is getting to him and he's moving someplace new.
It's linked from his current blog. He's billing it as "Tampa's Hottest Message Board". Touts Josh: ". More interactive fun, including live chat with local providers in the area. " Hmmmm. You know, there are more fun things than "chat" that you can do with local providers.
Anyway, it's hosted on ning.com, which is apparently another upstart social networking site. I tried to check it out, and got this:
"You have been banned from Tampa Verified Escorts"
"Sorry, G Money Cool, you can not access Tampa Verified Escorts as you have been banned. If you think you've been banned in error, you can contact the administrator. "
I guess I must have struck a nerve. If anyone else gets in, please fill us in so we can all stay on top of the scam.
Maybe the TampaBBW is getting to him and he's moving someplace new. Yes, I knew he would use ning to make his own network, however due to his own strageties in promoting his site, all he can do is follow my lead, hence being my little puppet to play with. I have PLENTY of people on the inside of that blog, both men and women so sooner or later I will post the entire contents PUBLIC just to ***** slap him and show him that I have my foot on his fucking head!
I have SKILLS and I know how to use them!
Question? How do you keep a man from drowning?
Answer. You take your foot off his head :)
I won't be taking my foot off his head anytime soon. See this boy knows nothing about web skills but he will learn a few things. ANY SITE and I do mean any site that links to his site I can get. If he is not linking traffic in then he won't be moving up the ranks in google and won't be seen. I know how to promote a site and make sure it's seen. Poor boy, won't be able to keep the wet spot off his underpants trying to keep up with me because I'm 10 paces ahead of him and pulling his strings as he catches up!
I did some research into your report and found that Josh,if thats his name,verified you as a provider and his account of the meeting had some simularities.I have seen your ads on cl,quite a few, to be factual.I have noticed a few girls bashing different sites on cl ,which in my opinion, may or may not have any merit.Again he reviewed you and was very clear about the circumstances of your encounter and verified you as a legit provider.
Angeleyez727
10-31-08, 11:29
I am very much aware of the fact that I am on his site and verified
But I have also asked to be removed and I assume he keeps me up there so if I tell people what he has been doing to me maybe my story won't look as credible? I don't know. But as you can see, he does not rate me that high now does he? And no offense to anyone but if you look on there, he actually has quite a few ladies that to me, and even others who I have spoke to, that are not as attractive as the "rating" he has given them.
Most men that visit with me usually tell me I look much better in person so for him to first rate me a 3 and a half to a 4 was really funny to me. He just recently changed it to a 5. Also, he says that my headache relief is like a 4 or 5 I think. Well I have been told I am pretty damn good by many!
Anyway, the point is, just because he has me as verified does not mean that he is not bothering me.
Clinton Bush
10-31-08, 11:39
What happened to me was, I got a call one day, about 7 or 8 months ago, the guy on the other end asked me if I was interested in a website so I could pick up more business. Where I usually dont barter, I had already kind of been thinking about paying for someone to make one for me. The guy told me (Josh) that all he wanted was headache relief and he would make me a website that would bring me in twice as much business as I was getting off of CL. He went on to tell me that the last girls website he did got her so many calls that she could not even take them all. Basically he just made it sound great and I beleived him. He was supposed to take my pictures as well and claimed to be a great photographer. He told me what time he wanted to come and I explained to him that my roommate would be getting home shortly after he wanted to arrive but that my roommate was cool and we would have all the privacy we needed for the headache relief when it was time. He agreed but asked that we do the headache relief first, I agreed. When he got to my house he wanted to jump right into the photos so I went along with it. Every photo he shot of me was horrid! He was taking the pictures from underneath my face rather then infront of over my face and that is not something a great photographer would do. I tried to even explain to him how to take the photos and how they would look better for me but he just didnt quite get it. I told him to forget the photos and we would just use the ones I already had. Shortly after that, my roommate gets home. I introduce them and we went into the room. I performed headache relief on him for atleast 25 min and he could not get off, he complained that he does not use condoms and said he was uncomfortable because my roommate had come home. I explained to him that I do not do anything unprotected because things like std's, hiv, herpes, hepatitus and multiple other diseases do not discriminate against my mouth. I told him that I would finish him another time because if he was going to make this website for me and help me get double the business I was already getting, then it was worth it. He makes the website as promised. About a week goes by and I never got one single call from this site. But he is calling me constantly for another free BJ. I basically avoided him and asked him to just take the site down. I told him I was not going to do anything for him because I already did enough for absolutely NOTHING! And I was very upset about the outcome. Especially when he gave me such high hopes. He even went so far as to put his own picture of his self and another lady on what was supposed to be my site! And never took it down for months after I asked him to. A month or so goes by and I had not heard from him until one day I get this text and it was Josh asking me if I knew where to get some drugs. I told him I dont do drugs and that was the end of that. A couple months later a friend of mine comes over and she mentions this verified blog spot and told me that the guy that came over to do my website was the one who made it. She wanted to show me what he had wrote about my sister and I. Now I had seen this site mentioned on CL a couple of times but me being myself, I never gave it a look or a second thought because it just sounded like a bunch of BS to me. I have seen girls get bashed on CL before and even I have been bashed because I accidently stood a guy up once because when I was getting ready to jump in the shower I literally knocked my phone right off the sink into the toilet. The guy came from sarasota to st. pete and could not get ahold of me when he got there obviously. That next day this guy had posted that my sister and I ripped him off and we had a ugly white pimp and then we had a black pimp and so on and so on.This went on for a couple of weeks and then finally it calmed down. So I surely wasnt interested in what that board was about because I have seen so many girls get bashed and lied on over the pettiest shit. But she showed me the site and what had been posted there about my sister and I. Nothing was said bad about myself except for the fact that he rated me as a 4 and I just thought that was kinda funny coming from him. What he posted about my sister I will not repeat but it was pretty bad considering he had never met her at all or even spoke to her. After that, I never went back on the site and frankly I had no ideal how to even get back to the site because my friend had googled it to begin with. A few weeks after seeing the site. I get a call from my sister telling me that Josh had called her yelling at her to stop flagging "his girls"! And to tell me the same thing. He said he knew it was us because we had been looking at his site and he thinks we dont like him so it has to be us. I asked her for his phone number and I called him myself and asked him what his problem was. He was going off on me telling me how I would never work again if I dont listen to him and went on to tell me he knows Tampa Tori and she started this business and he can get her to stop it all for me and my sister. I tried explaining to him that I was not flagging anyone and I dont think my sister is either but he said I was lying and he knew it was us. After this conversation my ads were flagged constantly. As soon as they went up they were flagged and removed. I could not keep one single ad up to save my life. And I honestly still cant. I have messages on my phone still from where he has called threatening me that he was setting me up with the police, that his friends brother was a sherrif. He has called my sister and threatened he was going to kill her or beat her fingers off with a hammer. He has asked me, my sister, my friend who I was refering to in this post and several others for free samples, he wants to exchange for a good review on his site. My business has completely slowed down and my accounts are blocked daily due to him and his friends flagging me. I honestly can say I am a good provider, I dont post for things I dont do and I have NEVER ripped anyone off. He has also made a post on backpage using a photo of me that he took that looked so bad of me and posted the BS site he made for me on it. He has posted my name and number in the free section of several different cities/states saying I had a free boat, jet skis, dell laptop, a free chevy cavalier and several other things so my phone would be swamped with calls. He has also done this to my sister and a couple other providers I will not mention. Also, on one of his posts on here(usasexguide) he mentions if he never met any of the women on his site then why do they post they are verified and mentioned some names, one being Tiffany the BBW.
Well he did infact meet Tiffant, he actually only met her the one time he came to my house and she was on her way out the door. He tried to offer her a site in exchange for headache releif as well but she never went through with it because obviously it was BS to begin with. He did meet her mom Amber S though and apparently Tiffany feels like he did not ask her mom for a freebie for the good review on his site because she had mentioned to him that Tiffany was her daughter. Tiffany also told me he had text her one time asking for a free sample but she told him no. When I confronted him about it he then said something to her about how he didnt appreciate her telling me what was said between them and about a week later her ads started getting flagged constantly. He had also taken her number down from his site but apparently things are cool with them again and her new number and photos are up on his board. I asked her why she posts she is verified at all and she says she does it for the business because so many guys look to Josh as a god or something. Her mom also pretty much told me the same thing. I also have a voice mail of him telling me he told all of his girls and the hobbyist who are on his site to stop flagging my ads and they did for about a week but I go through at least 3 accounts a week due to my ads being flagged during mid day or night. He always says he dont ask for freebies but I am proof he has. He has also asked my sister for a freebie as well. He says who would give a freebie for a good review, I say plenty! I did it just for a website because I dont know how to make them and it was one of the biggest mistakes I made in a long time.
Someone actually wrote on CL that this thread was here and I am glad I found it so more people could hear my story and know what type of person
they are actually dealing with.
My 6th grade English teacher (who was a hot MILF by the way...why couldn't teachers have been doing students then like they are now..but I digress) once said "Words are like meat - a little difficult to digest all in one bite."
A few paragraph breaks would make your future posts a little easier to read.
Thanks.
CB
Angeleyez727
10-31-08, 11:52
My 6th grade English teacher (who was a hot MILF by the way...why couldn't teachers have been doing students then like they are now..but I digress) once said "Words are like meat - a little difficult to digest all in one bite."
A few paragraph breaks would make your future posts a little easier to read.
Thanks.
CBI actually had all the breaks between the paragraphs but I had actually copied and pasted this from my e mail to here and in the proccess it ended
up looking all jumbled together.
My bad.
Member #4558
10-31-08, 17:35
Reading below that josh, the pimp wannabe, had opened his review site up for anon reading again, I just had to go take a look at what he was up to now.
And after taking a look through his stable of ho's, I can draw only one conclusion. He has very bad taste in the women he chooses to stalk! There is a real collection ow bowsers in there.
And after taking a look through his stable of ho's, I can draw only one conclusion. He has very bad taste in the women he chooses to stalk! There is a real collection ow bowsers in there.Well I nevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvva!
R Consultant
10-31-08, 20:30
From what I read about this Josh character hes a real manipulator. I just find it hard to believe women are so naive to fall for his shizzz. I get the part that they should warn each other but why fall for his stories.
I guess its just a glimpse of hope for some of the ladies and scare tactic and so forth but in the end he will get whats coming to him somehow.
Happy Hunting..
Reading below that josh, the pimp wannabe, had opened his review site up for anon reading again, I just had to go take a look at what he was up to now.
And after taking a look through his stable of ho's, I can draw only one conclusion. He has very bad taste in the women he chooses to stalk! There is a real collection ow bowsers in there.
Member #4216
11-01-08, 17:40
Hello all,
This is Scarlett and I'm new to this board but have been around since 2003 in this biz. I pride myself on having good reviews and providing quality to everyone I meet. I was approached by Josh to place me on his blog spot to get more business. I did agree to exchange a session for an "HONEST" review. I made no deals to barter for a GOOD review and he has never approached me to extort money and he has always been a gentleman to me.
Now there seems to be this feud going with Josh and TampaBBW and I'm sick of being caught in the middle of it. Whenever I post an ad on CL, it's flagged within 1 minute. I have no reason to suspect Josh and I am in good standing on his blog. Hmmmmm, wonder who it could be? Well whoever, you are, I've reported this to CL for harrassment. I haven't done anything wrong, I haven't tried to hurt anyone and I don't deserve this. Leave me out of your childish escapades.
I have 2 kids to feed and this isn't funny anymore. Leave me the hell alone!
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Hi Scarlett Love,
Why don't you just promote yourself on this site?
I guarantee that your advertisements won't get flagged, and as a bonus you won't have to "service" Tampa Reviewer in exchange for his agreeing not to trash your reputation.
Think about it.
Thanks,
Jackson
Hello all,
This is Scarlett and I'm new to this board but have been around since 2003 in this biz. I pride myself on having good reviews and providing quality to everyone I meet. I was approached by Josh to place me on his blog spot to get more business. I did agree to exchange a session for an "HONEST" review. I made no deals to barter for a GOOD review and he has never approached me to extort money and he has always been a gentleman to me.
Now there seems to be this feud going with Josh and TampaBBW and I'm sick of being caught in the middle of it. Whenever I post an ad on CL, it's flagged within 1 minute. I have no reason to suspect Josh and I am in good standing on his blog. Hmmmmm, wonder who it could be? Well whoever, you are, I've reported this to CL for harrassment. I haven't done anything wrong, I haven't tried to hurt anyone and I don't deserve this. Leave me out of your childish escapades.
I have 2 kids to feed and this isn't funny anymore. Leave me the hell alone!There is nothing honest about trading a review for sex. I'm sorry but when you basically had to pay him for it how can it be honest? This fued is josh's own doing. Had the slime ball not put me on his site then I would not have my foot on his head.
Maybe if you sucked my dildo, and let me do you in the pooper with my strap on, I will give you a honest review on my site :) Want to talk love? I can really sell you so much better than he can.
Member #4216
11-01-08, 21:53
I've also just spoken to TampaBBW on the phone and I am sorry I implicated her in this mayhem.
I am home alone with a, er well, now a half a bottle of red wine, but you could bring some more?
SirLickaLot
11-02-08, 00:16
Well you see, here is the problem. Good girls like you and Bad girls give Josh a FREE session for a review. YOU said that you DID exchange a session for a review. NO ONE takes his word on a review! That's just how he gets freebies!
So, I guess you gave a Freebie away. Now if you do me once for free, I give you a good review on my blog. lol
I can't believe you fail for his line of BS.
Nobody is getting anymore freebies from scarlett but me. We did talk and she can promote her business on my site. The only thing I want free from her is a cup of coffee when we meet. Thanks for joining the honeyhole Scarlett.
He joined my site about an hour ago and thought he would make a few post, of course I banned him and all his RANTS, went up in smoke. No need to bother trying to delete his bullshit, just ban him and all his efforts goes POOFIES~ lafffffffffffffffing, keep trying punk, it's only just begun!
Remember I told you when you decided to play with me that you were playing with fire, and you know when you play with fire josh, you will ALWAYS GET BURNT!
How do you keep a man from drowning? You take your foot off his head and don't worry, I won't be taking my foot off this fools head, anytime soon :)
In an earlier post I posted that Jasmin told me, josh told her that someone had pulled a gun on kandi. As it turns out, I called jasmin yesterday and left her a not so nice message to call me about this bs which she did. The girl had nerve to tell me not to leave that kind of message on her machine again. Ummmmmmm when you text me to say that I'm being accused of having a GUN pulled on someone then you don't answer my attempts to get back with you on that, I think I can leave any message I want. Well she called me back pissy and explained that she was wrong, it was not Kandi, it was the girl josh has featured on his blog MANDY. So then she goes onto say that she called Kandi and Kandi told her that josh lied about it. Where is the truth here? Is mandy lying, Is kandi lying or is jasmin lying?
IF you notice mandy mentions on josh's blog under her review section that she is being harassed and stalked but she does not mention ay anytime that anyone pulled a gun on her. I find that a little odd.
OK so basically I'm posting this to retract my earlier claim that it was kandi who had a gun pulled on her. Fact is, I have no idea but if I hear from anyone that I'm the one who had anything to do with that, law suits are going to be filed because you have to seriously be some hard up asswhores to spread those kinds of lies.
I took liberty to look up mandy's real info last night. It cost me a few bucks to pull off but if I ever hear of anyone making such a claim against me again. I will be filing a slander suit against Mandy since she is the one whose supposed to have had a gun pulled on her and is blaming me for it. If someone pulled a gun on me I would so have filed a police report but something tells me that no report was filed because this is all just more bullshit.
Anyone but me notice how bellybuttonloser is so broke, he even says so in his post but the next day manages to review mandy and then twice more after that. How does this broke bastard end up being able to see her 3 times when the rest of the guys on josh's blog are. Done with her LOL
Just wondering if I'm the only one watching mandy look like an idiot as she cries about being stalked, as she cries about being broke and as she cries about whatever she can cry about to get a bunch of losers to give her chump change.
Oh and the most hysterical part is. When she raised her prices from 220 to 250 and claimed that the reason she done this was because she was lucky to get one call a day and now needs more money to make up for it.
OKKKKKKKKKKKK that was fun.
I'm calling BULLSHIT on Mandy, Kandi, Jasmine and josh! Oh and bellybuttonloser, because you know damn well he can't afford to see her once, let alone 3 times LOL.
YOU fools get your shit together before you go spreading bullshit please.
G Money Cool
11-03-08, 12:59
He joined my site about an hour ago and thought he would make a few post, of course I banned him and all his RANTS, went up in smoke. No need to bother trying to delete his bullshit, just ban him and all his efforts goes POOFIES~ lafffffffffffffffing, keep trying punk, it's only just begun!
Remember I told you when you decided to play with me that you were playing with fire, and you know when you play with fire josh, you will ALWAYS GET BURNT!
How do you keep a man from drowning? You take your foot off his head and don't worry, I won't be taking my foot off this fools head, anytime soon :)Curious to know what he's doing there.
Is he moving his blog there, or is this a secondary site?
Curious to know what he's doing there.
Is he moving his blog there, or is this a secondary site?He did some crybaby stuff in chat which I found amusing. I banned him from chat and had intended to leave him on the site but was asked by one of the girls he has stalked to ban him as she and others really don't want him anywhere near them.
He was trying to argue one girls blog post, and wanted to start his own blog post slandering me. However on my site, nobody slanders me ever. That's the rule! I did not know his post would disappear once he was banned but it's a nice feature all the same.
Last night I had it out with Mandy and called her on her crap. Today I have been getting emails from guys who claim she was all over them about posting reviews. I put together another blog which I have not linked to my site yet as I'm giving Mandy time to redeem herself.
I'm sick of the lies and BS, sick of women being that gullible and wish more women would work to at least offer support and guidance to these new girls who for whatever get into this lifestyle.
There are always going to be women to fall for it, but some will get out of that situation before they get up to their neck like Mandy seems to have gotten.
Josh could care less about her and I pride myself in being with men who actually give a damn and that's how it should be. Even if he does not give a damn, he better fake it and be there when I need him or he won't be part of my life. I wish more women knew their own value and worth.
I have a new plan, I'm going to ***** josh out and make some cash off him. Whoever said Pimping aint easy, clearly did not have a vagina!
I'm still making money off that Pedo Michael Leahy who took over my chat room for 4 years, as I had one of my subs pay me to write a story about him per my instructions and posted it on a pay site and it's still making me 60 dollars per read. Time to step it up and use josh like the ***** he is. Stay tuned for what's to come.
As long as he feels the need to have my photos on his site, I'm going to use like only I can!
His following is small and getting smaller. He feels the heat, the girls on his blog feel the heat, and soon enough it will all go up in smoke.
What did god say, when he made man? He said " I know I can do better than this".
It does not get any better than this!
have some reasoning or reading comprehension issues. That Ning site is the one by TampaBBW, that stout lady who vows to destroy the life and soul of Josh. Please re-read the quoted part of your last post.
Nemo
G Money Cool
11-04-08, 07:30
have some reasoning or reading comprehension issues. That Ning site is the one by TampaBBW, that stout lady who vows to destroy the life and soul of Josh. Please re-read the quoted part of your last post.
Nemo...my reasoning and comprehension skills are beyond rapproach. While the BBW has her Ning site, Josh has also created one - he is linking in from his original blog. See my earlier post. I simply replied to her previous post since she was on the topic of Ning sites, and she has previously reported to have double agents who have access to his new site.
G
Maybe the TampaBBW is getting to him and he's moving someplace new.
It's linked from his current blog. He's billing it as "Tampa's Hottest Message Board". Touts Josh: ". More interactive fun, including live chat with local providers in the area. " Hmmmm. You know, there are more fun things than "chat" that you can do with local providers.
Anyway, it's hosted on ning.com, which is apparently another upstart social networking site. I tried to check it out, and got this:
"You have been banned from Tampa Verified Escorts"
"Sorry, G Money Cool, you can not access Tampa Verified Escorts as you have been banned. If you think you've been banned in error, you can contact the administrator. "
I guess I must have struck a nerve. If anyone else gets in, please fill us in so we can all stay on top of the scam.
R Consultant
11-04-08, 09:37
I dont think shes anything to mess with. I think she eats guys up for lunch and dinner.. Yikes!! Easy big hitter... LOL!
have some reasoning or reading comprehension issues. That Ning site is the one by TampaBBW, that stout lady who vows to destroy the life and soul of Josh. Please re-read the quoted part of your last post.
Nemo
G Money Cool
11-04-08, 10:04
Nobody is getting anymore freebies from scarlett but me. We did talk and she can promote her business on my site. The only thing I want free from her is a cup of coffee when we meet. Thanks for joining the honeyhole Scarlett.We all know Josh watches this board closely. Now it seems he must be worried that TampaBBW is stealing his girls. When I looked at his blog site today, he has Scarlett up as the "Week's Featured Provider". That had previously been reserved for his inner circle of girls. Mandy, Kandy, Tia, and Jasmine. He must be bumping Scarlett up to the big time to keep her loyal.
Scarlett. Did he contact you about being the girl of the week? Let us know if he asks for another freebie (although since Josh is reading this, I'm sure he probably won't have the stones to ask now).
Chase Star
11-04-08, 10:19
I dont think shes anything to mess with. I think she eats guys up for lunch and dinner.. Yikes!! Easy big hitter... LOL!If that's so, then I think that BB?W needs to go on a diet. We all agree that Josh is a dickhead, but BB?W is not helping her own marketing image at all by the things she's been posting. I think you'd have to be as crazy as she is to session with her and risk getting wrapped up in all her drama.
Nardo Life
11-04-08, 11:35
..............but I must admit that TampaBBW is really putting her boot to Josh's ass, so I'm sort of enjoying it. He really fucked with a crazy ass broad and now he is feeling the wrath. Do your thing TampaBBW, but remember because of your crazy disposition you can't expect anyone to want to partake in a session with you from this board.
However, I don't think she cares. She doesn't seem financally desperate like most women in this business and all she seems to be centered on is destroying josh. I love it, carry on.
R Consultant
11-04-08, 17:38
I agree with you I wouldn't waste my energy getting wrapped up in her drama.
I like the low-key drama free lifestyle. Less headaches and less total issues to deal with.
Happy Hunting..
If that's so, then I think that BB?W needs to go on a diet. We all agree that Josh is a dickhead, but BB?W is not helping her own marketing image at all by the things she's been posting. I think you'd have to be as crazy as she is to session with her and risk getting wrapped up in all her drama.
We all know Josh watches this board closely. Now it seems he must be worried that TampaBBW is stealing his girls. When I looked at his blog site today, he has Scarlett up as the "Week's Featured Provider". Kind of interesting in that by his own admission he reported "my little friend was not cooperating..." during his time with her.
Whoever said Pimping aint easy, did not have a vagina!
Anyone want to meet me? 1000 dollars PER HOUR, mention Josh or his review site to me, then you will pay 5000 Per Hour!
G Money Cool
11-05-08, 08:46
Kind of interesting in that by his own admission he reported "my little friend was not cooperating..." during his time with her.
So many freebies, so little stamina.
G Money Cool
11-05-08, 08:54
..............but I must admit that TampaBBW is really putting her boot to Josh's ass, so I'm sort of enjoying it. He really fucked with a crazy ass broad and now he is feeling the wrath. Do your thing TampaBBW, but remember because of your crazy disposition you can't expect anyone to want to partake in a session with you from this board.
However, I don't think she cares. She doesn't seem financally desperate like most women in this business and all she seems to be centered on is destroying josh. I love it, carry on.This post popped up on Craigslist over the weekend. A combination of threats and rationalizing. I have a hard time believing it is anyone but Josh.
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ers/902291069.html
LADIES...
YOU NEED TO FORGET ABOUT YOUR REVENGE AND LEAVE HIM ALONE! GOD WILL PUNISH HIM FOR ALL HE DID WRONG. I KNOW IT SOUNDS DIFFICULT BUT ITS THE RIGHT THING.
WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND AND IF JOSH SCREWED YOU OVER HE WILL BE PUNISHED BY GOD. THIS IS AN ELECTION YEAR AND THE PO PO IS OUT IN FULL FORCE. JOSH KNOWS STUFF ABOUT ALL OF YOU THAT WERE ON HIS SITE SO YOU CAN BE SURE HE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE TROUBLE IF YOU ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE.
IF YOU IGNORE THE PROBLEM IT WILL GO AWAY!
YES I KNOW JOSH BUT I WAS NOT ON HIS WEB SITE.
GOOD LUCK LADIES! STAY SAFE AND GOD BLESS!
REMEMBER IT WAS YOU WHO THOUGHT BEING ON HIS SITE WAS GOING TO HELP. WELL IT DIDNT AND NOW YOU WANT REVENGE.
BTW LADIES THIS IS NOT JOSH BUT A SMART FEMALE PROVIDER. I DIDNT GET CAUGHT IN HIS WEB OF PROBLEMS.
NEXT TIME DON'T TRUST ANYONE TO HELP YOU BECAUSE THERE IS ALWAYS A PRICE TO PAY. SO NOW YOU'RE PISSED OFF BUT THINK BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION!
LET IT GO AND EVENTUALLY HE WILL GO AWAY!"...JOSH KNOWS STUFF ABOUT ALL OF YOU THAT WERE ON HIS SITE SO YOU CAN BE SURE HE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE TROUBLE IF YOU ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE..."
". BTW ladies this is not Josh, but a smart female provider. Let it go and eventually he will go away! "
Hmmm. I wonder if this same approach worked for him in school. "Josh missed school yesterday because he was sick. Please excuse him. By the way this is not Josh but his female mother. "
Good one Josh.
G Money Cool
11-05-08, 11:47
Whoever said Pimping aint easy, did not have a vagina!
Anyone want to meet me? 1000 dollars PER HOUR, mention Josh or his review site to me, then you will pay 5000 Per Hour!If this is indeed a type of fetish that some men have, let me put this at the top of the list of fetishes I don't get. Along with cock-and-ball torture or the "cleveland steamer".
But keep up the good work making Josh squirm. Wait, I wasn't supposed to mention Josh. You aren't going to send me a bill, are you?
Don't let him get away with this, flag him already! Flush This Filth! Go to this link and FLAG THE FOOL!
How to flag... http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ers/902291069.html
Open link, look at the top right of the page for please flag with care:
miscategorized
prohibited
spam/overpost
Click Any of those words, to flag him!
Do not click the "best of craiglist"
However that does give me an idea, moving other tampa cl traffic to his site! Lmao,, oh the joy!
Maybe I will do some site promoting for him but in a few hell holes I know about! I will go harass some fools in the hacker lounge and make them think it's my site ........ lmao ! go emasculate them and tempt them to take the site down! I will just tell them my name is josh and my balls are bigger than theirs! lafffffffffffing
That's a lot more legal than my asking someone to do it huh, Lmao !
This post popped up on Craigslist over the weekend. A combination of threats and rationalizing. I have a hard time believing it is anyone but Josh.
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ers/902291069.html
"...JOSH KNOWS STUFF ABOUT ALL OF YOU THAT WERE ON HIS SITE SO YOU CAN BE SURE HE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE TROUBLE IF YOU ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE..."
". BTW ladies this is not Josh, but a smart female provider. Let it go and eventually he will go away! "
Hmmm. I wonder if this same approach worked for him in school. "Josh missed school yesterday because he was sick. Please excuse him. By the way this is not Josh but his female mother. "
Good one Josh.
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ers/907695376.html
This reposted if flagged!
RE: warning warning - w4m (Pinellas )
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Reply to: pers-907695376@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2008-11-06, 12:13AM EST
Guys it sounds like she might be PMS-ing a bit. Trust me my dear there is an endless supply of chicas available to us old fat guys who have the $$. From our point of view, we are paying you to go away so that we don't have to deal with you when you are PMS-ing. If you had the cash you would not need to sell your a$$. So be a good girl and STFU.
Old guy with $$
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RE: warning warning - w4m - 29 (st pete)
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u too afraid to call....y all the text/emails? u think we have nothing better to do than read email n text about how big u r etc etc etc? no im not sending u any damn nude pics either. theres plenty of toothless crack hoes that will send u fake pics,ask them. oh yea, btw im not impressed when u call and ask if ill accept half my donation. oh yea baby ur so hot i cant wait to make u a regular or better yet i love to work for free....i was thinking i might change my rate to 10 half hour and 20 1hour...i love to put all my donation in my gas tank to come over and see ur fat ugly ass. the truth is the only reason we come see u is u PAY us. What are you left with when were tired of ur bs...ill tell ya, nuthin but crackheads....Heres the deal ladies,y lower ur rate and cowtail to the streetwalker rates? the fact is the majority of tricks call us because they CANT get any no other way. u have what they want. if every1 raises the bar they have 2 choices u or the toothless wonder....im betting u will win, its very hard for then to explain the growing mass on their johnsons to their wifes. if u dont like ur treatment....change the game...REMEMBER THERE IS NO GAME WITHOUT U. they may say the same about themselves. like they are needed to.......bottom line is they cant live without wat u got....u can live without wat they got OR wat they are offering i should say. with rates like these we should just go apply to wallmart...seems they may pay more than our current situation.
Location: Pinellas
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
PostingID: 907695376
N this group of photos of me, you will see the photo it was cropped from. I feel the need to post it here. Who was this girl? Why did josh put his head in the sky like some angel. Weird. This was taken from his mispace page. You really have to wonder. About these things.
Angeleyez727
11-06-08, 13:22
N this group of photos of me, you will see the photo it was cropped from. I feel the need to post it here. Who was this girl? Why did josh put his head in the sky like some angel. Weird. This was taken from his mispace page. You really have to wonder. About these things.That is not Josh, he looks nothing like that.
He is younger and he is also fat with a big, ugly fat head.
I wish I had saved the pic he had put on the website, he looks like a oompa loompa and he smells like bologna.
Peter Rammer
11-06-08, 13:46
N this group of photos of me, you will see the photo it was cropped from. I feel the need to post it here. Who was this girl? Why did josh put his head in the sky like some angel. Weird. This was taken from his mispace page. You really have to wonder. About these things.Josh is quite a handsome devil(LOL)!! Betcha he's got lotsa' little boyfriends?
You ladies are lucky to have had such a man!!LOL!
G Money Cool
11-06-08, 19:00
I managed to get a peek at Josh's new networking site on Ning. Yes Josh. I know you are reading this. It's a small world, and I know a few people who have access. Trust me, we aren't missing anything. It's mostly the same people from the other site, and nothing particularly interesting. Much ado about nothing.
The most worthwhile thing to look at are the pics that Josh himself posted. He must fancy himself an erotic photographer, because he has about 50 pictures of chicks posing naked for him. Wook. You said he had some bowsers. Well check out these two pix. Where did this camera come from. A box of cereal? And is this an escort or the night janitor from a Waffle House? Holy shit. The entire reason digital cameras were invented was so that you could dump bad pix without losing money. If this is the best the man can get, it is truly, truly sad.
Trendz Tampa
11-06-08, 20:44
Hmmmm. Now there were two ladies that I had been interested in that now appear on Josh's site. I had spoken to one and was getting ready to set something up when she started appearing on the site. Now I'm not sure if she is trustworthy or worth it. What do you think fellas? ! PM me an opinion. Not sure what to do! And I really want to see her!
G Money Cool
11-07-08, 00:37
That is not Josh, he looks nothing like that.
He is younger and he is also fat with a big, ugly fat head.
I wish I had saved the pic he had put on the website, he looks like a oompa loompa and he smells like bologna.Looks like an oompa loompa. Smells like bologna. His little friend won't work. Damn, no wonder you ladies are so quick to spread 'them for Josh. Hell, I EVEN wanna give him a freebie now.
Angel. Do whatever you have to and get a picture. We all want to know what he looks like.
Invisible Dude
11-07-08, 01:38
I have seen a couple ladies that were posted on Josh's site as scams. They all had pimps or guns were pulled, either fat or was rip off. Funny thing i have never seen their "pimps", no guns and have never been ripped off. In reality this board is the best bet if your looking for reviews. Reviews are easily tainted and you never know who is actually posting them. casher n dashers n the like usually are here one day gone the next. In my experience the real ones seem to always remain the same: ads,name,age,updated pics etc.
Member #4558
11-07-08, 08:13
Hmmmm. Now there were two ladies that I had been interested in that now appear on Josh's site. I had spoken to one and was getting ready to set something up when she started appearing on the site. Now I'm not sure if she is trustworthy or worth it. What do you think fellas? ! PM me an opinion. Not sure what to do! And I really want to see her!Well then bite the bullet so to speak and follow through with your desire. At least give her the opportunity to prove you right (or wrong).
I bet he will have to slow his roll now. http://www.newsweek.com/id/167888 SO craigs list teams up with law enforcement and now charges 5 bucks per ad? LMAO this is gonna make a whole lot of people cry and starve!
Oh well, sorry about their luck. I can't wait to see where everyone moves their business to.
All good things, get exploited by losers like josh but if you pray long and hard enough you can watch this happen and then everyone gets screwed. I'm glad because this will put a serious dent in his game of trying to control cl and he won't be paying 5 bucks, to slander women~
Wonder where he and the rest of you cl mongers will go now.
Lafing this makes my job so much easier!
R Consultant
11-07-08, 08:38
Waffle house night janitor--LOL!!!!!!!! That made my morning..LOL!
That women is scary enough to make the eggs run off the plate..
I hope he can do better than that or hes gonna be broke real soon..
Happy Hunting
I managed to get a peek at Josh's new networking site on Ning. Yes Josh. I know you are reading this. It's a small world, and I know a few people who have access. Trust me, we aren't missing anything. It's mostly the same people from the other site, and nothing particularly interesting. Much ado about nothing.
The most worthwhile thing to look at are the pics that Josh himself posted. He must fancy himself an erotic photographer, because he has about 50 pictures of chicks posing naked for him. Wook. You said he had some bowsers. Well check out these two pix. Where did this camera come from. A box of cereal? And is this an escort or the night janitor from a Waffle House? Holy shit. The entire reason digital cameras were invented was so that you could dump bad pix without losing money. If this is the best the man can get, it is truly, truly sad.
Sir Eptishes
11-07-08, 18:35
Waffle house night janitor--LOL! That made my morning..LOL!
That women is scary enough to make the eggs run off the plate.
I hope he can do better than that or hes gonna be broke real soon.
Happy Hunting
I managed to get a peek at Josh's new networking site on Ning. Yes Josh. I know you are reading this. It's a small world, and I know a few people who have access. Trust me, we aren't missing anything. It's mostly the same people from the other site, and nothing particularly interesting. Much ado about nothing.Josh's idea of a MILF. 'Moose I'd Love to FLEE FROM'. Although, it's sad and scary to admit, but I've been with worse! Anyway with the recent recession and the Waffle House cutting back Bertha's hours, she's now offering 24/7 service. Hurry call now before it's too late. Dial 1800 BOVINEHO. Operators are standing by! LOL!
SO craigs list teams up with law enforcement and now charges 5 bucks per ad? LMAO this is gonna make a whole lot of people cry and starve!
Will be out of business too. CL does not allow paid advertising to get nuked.
Mal
Will be out of business too. CL does not allow paid advertising to get nuked.
MalCL states that any ads paid that are in violation of their tos will be flagged, and it's written in red lettering, with no refunds. Just because they pay, will not ensure they stay on the board. I would seriously not be meeting anyone posting on the erotic board of cl just because of the risk to the clients due to possible, cops involvement. Now that all they have to do is get a list of names, address and phone numbers from cl about posters. Any man who meets any of the girls posting in the erotic area should think twice about how bright they are to be posting there at this time, in the first place. I personally will move traffic outside of the erotic board on cl as I have better things to do than blow the 2500 dollar retainer that my attorney holds for me. The one thing cops count on to make a good arrest, is provider stupidity so think twice about who you meet when they are not even thinking about the risk to themselves, they won't be concerned about the risk to you.
MonicaExotica
11-08-08, 11:18
There was a link on Ter tampa this am concerning that, the only part that disturbs me is the quote about CL and le teaming up and createing a roadmap of providers? I don't know if this is going to affect the traveling girls since its requireing a valid credit card, supposedly attached to your ip?
I'm not nuts about the idea of useing a credit card with a real name attached, But it just says valid, So We shall see if You can get say a walmart pre paid visa and use it. Heck everyones had 3 years of free advertiseing on CL, if You have to pay and its not going to be flagged even better, its just going to be no more offenseive pictures, language, thats whats had john q public so anti CL in the first place. If you are a non hobbiest, just curious average joe or whatever cruiseig CL just for jollies because You saw it mentioned in the news, and open up an ad with a big fat cock, or dildo, or jizz on somebodys face it tends to draw attention. Just my opinion here. Maybe it will tame down the over the edge advertiseing going on over there.
Angeleyez727
11-08-08, 12:47
Will be out of business too. CL does not allow paid advertising to get nuked.
MalJosh and his "friends" were the ones flagging the board.
He has been flagging me for about 6months. And then if you read some of the other girls stories, you will see that he has done it to them too. In some cases he has told the girls he is going to flag the ads if he don't get what he wants.
I seriously don't think Tampabbw was the one flagging. From my understanding, it takes 3 flags from 3 I. P addresses. She has been on CL for a long time and there was never this much flagging or problems until Josh came around.
Josh is also the one who claimed that Tampabbw was the flagger. Has anyone seen her flag? Or have you called her up and asked her if it was her? Or did she go around calling people telling them she was going to flag them? I seriously doubt it! But I know who has.
Blondehound
11-08-08, 13:26
I bet he will have to slow his roll now. http://www.newsweek.com/id/167888 SO craigs list teams up with law enforcement and now charges 5 bucks per ad? LMAO this is gonna make a whole lot of people cry and starve!
Oh well, sorry about their luck. I can't wait to see where everyone moves their business to.
All good things, get exploited by losers like josh but if you pray long and hard enough you can watch this happen and then everyone gets screwed. I'm glad because this will put a serious dent in his game of trying to control cl and he won't be paying 5 bucks, to slander women~
Wonder where he and the rest of you cl mongers will go now.
Lafing this makes my job so much easier!I am curious as to how this person is allowed to continue posting on this site? Every post has been rude or stupid and really nothing to do with this forum.
Go post somewhere like "Rock of Love Charm School ", "Real World", or maybe " Real Chance at Love" You have much in common with the people from these reality shows.
BH
Chase Star
11-08-08, 16:00
I;m posting this here because her post was made in the "Escort Classified Ad" section which was meant as a place for her sister's to try and generate business for themselves and not for her or anyone else to go off on the controversies she generates. Since most of those controversies revolve around the GFEReviewer (and increasingly herself) I guess it really belongs more here than anywhere else. Perhaps we need to change the name of this thread to the "GFEReviewer TampaBBW Battle"
Oh excuse me could you please retract your lies or at least state that they are mere speculation on your part,and not fact as I hate when people know so little but assume so much.Excuse me, I assumed that you weren't allowed to post on Josh's TEV blogsite either. I guess I was wrong on that.
Even without that, we haven't seen a clear explanation why you really didn't deserve to get thrown off the TSFME site. And we have seen that you have generated some controversy on this site when you wished harm on the innocent children of one of your many enemies. I could have written that off as simple and thoughtless anger talking but when others pointed out the unfairness of that comment you continued to try to justify it. And that is just one example from one of your many lengthy posts on this forum. A lot of the rest of what you write is convoluted and hard to follow and, IMHO, makes you look almost as screwy as the guy you're trying to attack. Maybe you don't care how you appear on this forum because you really DON'T care if any of the guys here want to see you or not, but you obviously DO care that you harm the impression we have of Josh and a lot of what you write makes us wonder whether Josh is really completely at fault or whether he is dealing with what are just the ravings of some mad and angry woman who is so paranoid that she thinks for some reason that EVERYONE is out to get poor her and her own actions have nothing to do with it.
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Chase Star
11-09-08, 14:43
Whatever, superbitch. I guess I'm not a "man", just a "follower", yada yada yada. That is so hurtful coming from someone as perceptive and always so right as you.... NOT. I don't need (or want) to speak with you because all that you've written so far already speaks volumes more about you than I'd ever be able to withstand in a phone call. Beyond that, I'm not going to even bother responding to that book you just wrote about me because I doubt hardly anyone would even have the patience to read more than a few lines of it (I know I didn't). Hint: if you expect people to read your entire text, then try not writing "War and Peace" with every post.
The important thing is that I got this discussion out of the Escort Classified Ad section where your diatribes and off topic comments were stepping all over the attempts by your sister providers to do what that section was designed for, advertising their services and hopefully generating some livelihood for themselves and their families.
Now if we can only get THIS section back to what it was meant for - discussing your friend Josh and his various misdeeds - rather than discussing your perceptions of my supposed shortcomings or your own personal melodramas - stories of your persecution, schemes for revenge and how everybody is out to get poor innocent little old you.
Vaginas999
11-09-08, 15:14
First of ALL, dear chase whoever you are. You are not owed an explanation. Where did I at any time claim that I did not deserve to be tossed from tsmfe site? I made a post on their board calling them ALL bastards. Ummmm I think one could conclude that such an act, would result in termination, hence that was the point. The site is a joke to begin with. This dominoman wants me to call him to discuss why I had a problem with his site and claimed to be, "on my side". No I did not call misterdominoman to discuss this as he requested multiple times, and instead I posted the "fuck you bastards" post.
For you or anyone else to say that I'm somehow trying to defend my getting tossed from the site is on your part false.
I do not feel that everyone is, as you put it "out to get" me. I simply feel that when guys like you don't take the time to get the facts, but make speculations, you are doing more harm than good. If you read my ENTIRE POST, or at least shared it with this board, I would feel you have some merit, however, you are trying to take things out of context!
Allow me put it in terms that you can understand.
You claimed, that I feel I was unfairly banned from a site. This is not accurate! You claimed, that as a result, you felt it was "kinda telling" which is speculation, because you did not have the facts!
You claim that maybe aesdr has a point after all, however, I claim, that he is a member of a private group, breaking the rules of that group by making mention of it outside of the group so perhaps he is the one who has the problems here. Even referring to it as "another site" is still making reference to the site that is is now in violation of tsmfe dot com's TOS which is Terms of Service just in case you did not know. If he would break the rules of the site, what does that say about him. Basically he was right in his post, and did not make the false claims you are making. The only thing you are even close to reporting to be accurate on is that I do bring PERSONALITY to this board! Although you called it personal and sometimes even bizarre drama.
My point is, get your facts!
My post clearly stated that you assume too much but know so little, Perhaps before you take on some personal task of attacking me that you at least take the time to speak TO me outside of this board! I don't know you, I have at least spoken to josh, and would never post anything about people who I have not had personal interaction with.
Now you want to attack my feelings about another woman when you don't have those facts. I have a lot of blogs, more than enough for you and others to choke on and hopefully be able to digest. I don't intend to post them here but the same women who have blogs up about me, also were members of a chat room that I ran for 7 years. Another Story! One which is none of your business and only became your business when josh posted crap on his blog. I would love to share a few blogs with you, but in all honesty. It's NONE of your business, unless I make it your business. Just because you want to get into my business does not mean you are invited. Just because I post on this forum is not an invitation to get in my business.
Even when guys like you who I deem to be followers and not leaders misrepresent and mislead others you're not doing anyone any favors. You still want to be "right" and will make any argument you can, even if that means going through old post and making reference to them to win your argument.
If you are taking the position of educator and informer on this site. BE INFORMED! THAT'S MY POINT! Just because you have been posting on this site for years does not make you credible, and more so in my book, because you have not taken the time to get the facts and even admitted to it here, when you claimed that you thought I was unable to post on one blog.
Basically you have proven my point when you retracted that, but the truth is, you should have manned up and took it like a man that you were wrong in making any speculations about me when you have never spoken to me. If you are going to offer up an apology, do it like a man. The last thing you want is for me to review you based on your many post you have made on many boards. I think it would be one of the most amusing reviews ever read. I have no problem fighting fire with fire and I don't partake in the review process. I never have. Women like me don't need men like you to tell the men we meet that we are good enough. We do have the ability to interview and eliminate any man who does not measure up. I have not read any of your past postings, so I have not done my home work, but if you continue to make speculation about me without facts, I will just use you as a pawn in my game that only I know the rules to.
Below is the original post that I was making coment on. The least you can do is post it full context. Moving it here is pointless as it had nothing to do with this forum but you go move this post anywhere you wish. I'm off to read your old post because I do like to know who I'm dealing with out here in cyber space. Oh and on one more note! I have a problem with you feeling like I want to use this board to promote myself. Should I choose to do that, again that would fall under the catagory of "my business". Stop trying to suggest that even I don't have a right to promote myself anywhere I see fit. If you want to MAN UP! Contact me! 813galatgmail.com it's not that hard to get the facts, if you know where to look.I am sure all this is just getting you a ton of business, your plumpness. No one cares, move on.
Whatever, superbitch. I guess I'm not a "man", just a "follower", yada yada yada. That is so hurtful coming from someone as perceptive and always so right as you.... NOT. I don't need (or want) to speak with you because all that you've written so far already speaks volumes more about you than I'd ever be able to withstand in a phone call. Beyond that, I'm not going to even bother responding to that book you just wrote about me because I doubt hardly anyone would even have the patience to read more than a few lines of it (I know I didn't). Hint: if you expect people to read your entire text, then try not writing "War and Peace" with every post.
The important thing is that I got this discussion out of the Escort Classified Ad section where your diatribes and off topic comments were stepping all over the attempts by your sister providers to do what that section was designed for, advertising their services and hopefully generating some livelihood for themselves and their families.
Now if we can only get THIS section back to what it was meant for - discussing your friend Josh and his various misdeeds - rather than discussing your perceptions of my supposed shortcomings or your own personal melodramas - stories of your persecution, schemes for revenge and how everybody is out to get poor innocent little old you.He will never admit it, but he's got me under his skin.
I bet he checks his email often just to see if I've posted.
The Lovemuscle
11-10-08, 01:45
You two have a large idea of your own opinons and need to carry your lengthy, overblown arguments to the ring. Personally, I think you both are smoking way too much crack.
As for the rest of the board,
Monger On!
You two have a large idea of your own opinons and need to carry your lengthy, overblown arguments to the ring. Personally, I think you both are smoking way too much crack.
As for the rest of the board,
Monger On!I have no idea who chase is. As far as I'm concerned, he is just some dog trying to piss on my leg.
One of many I have encountered in 10 years of netlife.
He may be on crack, but I won't touch the stuff.
G Money Cool
11-10-08, 12:37
I have seen a couple ladies that were posted on Josh's site as scams. They all had pimps or guns were pulled, either fat or was rip off. Funny thing i have never seen their "pimps", no guns and have never been ripped off. In reality this board is the best bet if your looking for reviews. Reviews are easily tainted and you never know who is actually posting them. casher n dashers n the like usually are here one day gone the next. In my experience the real ones seem to always remain the same: ads,name,age,updated pics etc.Invisible Dude - who were the girls you saw that weren't ripoffs as accused on the "verified" blog?
Beautiful Bbw
11-10-08, 14:13
I am very much aware of the fact that I am on his site and verified
But I have also asked to be removed and I assume he keeps me up there so if I tell people what he has been doing to me maybe my story won't look as credible? I don't know. But as you can see, he does not rate me that high now does he? And no offense to anyone but if you look on there, he actually has quite a few ladies that to me, and even others who I have spoke to, that are not as attractive as the "rating" he has given them.
Most men that visit with me usually tell me I look much better in person so for him to first rate me a 3 and a half to a 4 was really funny to me. He just recently changed it to a 5. Also, he says that my headache relief is like a 4 or 5 I think. Well I have been told I am pretty damn good by many!
Anyway, the point is, just because he has me as verified does not mean that he is not bothering me.I don't understand what his problem is with you, but we've both been dealing with it and I finally got him to take me off the site, though everytime I asked he'd bring up that his "sample" was a joke and he hopes, that and TampaBBW weren't the problem.
I've never had a problem with the woman he claims was calling people and raising all kinds of hell(TampaBBW). The only problems I've ever had were with JOSH!! I know for a fact that his 3hr sit in with one of the older ladies IS TRUE, because that's someone I'm related to and the ONLY reason he DIDN'T ask for anything is because she let it be known that she knew me and he knew it would get back to me.
When I first came into the business I met Josh within the first week ONLY by the fact that he was offering a trade for someone I know that ONLY benefited him. I was asked the same trade and am very glad I didn't go through with it. I was once a verified provider, I'm thankful I'm not on the site anymore.
The only way I got off the site was by playing nice.. I don't know what to tell you Angeleyez727, but I hope it works out.
I am sure all this is just getting you a ton of business, your plumpness. No one cares, move on.Since you seriously don't care, Kindly keep my name out of your mouth and stop trying to hump my leg.
Member #4558
11-10-08, 18:46
You two have a large idea of your own opinons and need to carry your lengthy, overblown arguments to the ring. Personally, I think you both are smoking way too much crack.
As for the rest of the board,
Monger On!
The whole thing borders on stupid.
Chase has his opinions and is welcome to them as is Tampabbw. I enjoy reading what Chase has to offer here as they are always well written and usually always well thought out contributions.
As for Tampabbw, if I ever had a notion of seeing you it is long gone now as your lengthy posts and jabs at the membership of this board have given me a negative view. Granted these were only written words but a lot can be seen of a persons personality in what they write.
Carry on your war against Josh as he certainly does seem to deserve but please refrain from drawing the rest if us into your crusade and do not get pissed off at us when elect not to charge down the guns with you. Hopefully you will get this out of your system soon and the various topics here can return to normal. I for one am tired of reading about this so I am going to take a break for posting and reading here until this is done of over with.
Wook Out.
I had to peek his blog, and the first review his new girl got was bad. Then it looks like he had to call up his dogs to back her up. I'm surprised bellybuttonloser has not been on the trail.
The whole thing borders on stupid.
Chase has his opinions and is welcome to them as is Tampabbw. I enjoy reading what Chase has to offer here as they are always well written and usually always well thought out contributions.
As for Tampabbw, if I ever had a notion of seeing you it is long gone now as your lengthy posts and jabs at the membership of this board have given me a negative view. Granted these were only written words but a lot can be seen of a persons personality in what they write.
Carry on your war against Josh as he certainly does seem to deserve but please refrain from drawing the rest if us into your crusade and do not get pissed off at us when elect not to charge down the guns with you. Hopefully you will get this out of your system soon and the various topics here can return to normal. I for one am tired of reading about this so I am going to take a break for posting and reading here until this is done of over with.
Wook Out.Another dog trying to piss on my leg.
I'm not logging back into this site without a box of milkbones from now on.
The whole thing borders on stupid.
I will take it one step further, Wook and simply proclaim this is an utter waste of all our time and bandwidth here. Reminds me of an old Navy acronym:
DILLIGAFF*
If you are unaware of what this means, PM me.
R Consultant
11-10-08, 19:03
I was thinking this whole thing is stupid myself. Who cares what Josh is doing!! I sure the heck could careless.
Everyone gets burned from somebody when they first start out. Learn from it and move on.
End of story..
Happy Hunting..
The whole thing borders on stupid.
Chase has his opinions and is welcome to them as is Tampabbw. I enjoy reading what Chase has to offer here as they are always well written and usually always well thought out contributions.
As for Tampabbw, if I ever had a notion of seeing you it is long gone now as your lengthy posts and jabs at the membership of this board have given me a negative view. Granted these were only written words but a lot can be seen of a persons personality in what they write.
Carry on your war against Josh as he certainly does seem to deserve but please refrain from drawing the rest if us into your crusade and do not get pissed off at us when elect not to charge down the guns with you. Hopefully you will get this out of your system soon and the various topics here can return to normal. I for one am tired of reading about this so I am going to take a break for posting and reading here until this is done of over with.
Wook Out.
Chase Star
11-10-08, 19:50
Wook, Drew and R Consultant are 3 highly respected posters on this board and as usual I agree with them. Frankly, since I've said all I need to, I've also moved on from any squabble I had with TampaBBW. OTOH, I'm sure she'll continue to rant and rave and post whatever she wants (if not about me or Josh, then about whomever pisses her off next and if not here then elsewhere). Or maybe she finally got the hint from all us old dogs and really won't return without her "milkbones". I just mainly wanted to see that the various sections get back to what their titles say they should be about and appreciate the rest of you indulging me while I said what I thought needed to be said.
I agree that the untrustworthiness of the TEV blogsite is so well documented here that nothing more really needs to be said. If any one posts a question about it or reference to it, all we really need to do is point them to this thread. However, if providers and hobbyists want to continue to post their more recent experiences about that site (and the individual running it) here as a means of venting they certainly should be able to. OTOH, I think hardly anyone is really interested in any twisted schemes of personal revenge other than the one perpetrating them. Unfortunately each new post like that buries the much more real and compelling evidence against the TEV blogsite.
Anyway, as long as that stuff is confined here, all anyone not interested in it has to do is simply NOT open this thread - ie no wasted bandwidth. That's what I'm going to do from now on.
Wook, Drew and R Consultant are 3 highly respected posters on this board and as usual I agree with them. Frankly, since I've said all I need to, I've also moved on from any squabble I had with TampaBBW. OTOH, I'm sure she'll continue to rant and rave and post whatever she wants (if not about me or Josh, then about whomever pisses her off next and if not here then elsewhere). Or maybe she finally got the hint from all us old dogs and really won't return without her "milkbones". I just mainly wanted to see that the various sections get back to what their titles say they should be about and appreciate the rest of you indulging me while I said what I thought needed to be said.
I agree that the untrustworthiness of the TEV blogsite is so well documented here that nothing more really needs to be said. If any one posts a question about it or reference to it, all we really need to do is point them to this thread. However, if providers and hobbyists want to continue to post their more recent experiences about that site (and the individual running it) here as a means of venting they certainly should be able to. OTOH, I think hardly anyone is really interested in any twisted schemes of personal revenge other than the one perpetrating them. Unfortunately each new post like that buries the much more real and compelling evidence against the TEV blogsite.
Anyway, as long as that stuff is confined here, all anyone not interested in it has to do is simply NOT open this thread - ie no wasted bandwidth. That's what I'm going to do from now on.It really did not need to be brought to this thread. As this thread has nothing to do with the TSMFE site.
Tosses you a milkbone. Apology accepted since that's the best I'm gonna get from you.
Good boy, pats your head.
Hard Working 19
11-10-08, 21:40
Even more simple. In my 4 years on this site I have never used the ignore feature. Simply click on the User CP button and add the BBW. Poof, her posts disappear.
Wook, Drew and R Consultant are 3 highly respected posters on this board and as usual I agree with them. Frankly, since I've said all I need to, I've also moved on from any squabble I had with TampaBBW. OTOH, I'm sure she'll continue to rant and rave and post whatever she wants (if not about me or Josh, then about whomever pisses her off next and if not here then elsewhere). Or maybe she finally got the hint from all us old dogs and really won't return without her "milkbones". I just mainly wanted to see that the various sections get back to what their titles say they should be about and appreciate the rest of you indulging me while I said what I thought needed to be said.
I agree that the untrustworthiness of the TEV blogsite is so well documented here that nothing more really needs to be said. If any one posts a question about it or reference to it, all we really need to do is point them to this thread. However, if providers and hobbyists want to continue to post their more recent experiences about that site (and the individual running it) here as a means of venting they certainly should be able to. OTOH, I think hardly anyone is really interested in any twisted schemes of personal revenge other than the one perpetrating them. Unfortunately each new post like that buries the much more real and compelling evidence against the TEV blogsite.
Anyway, as long as that stuff is confined here, all anyone not interested in it has to do is simply NOT open this thread - ie no wasted bandwidth. That's what I'm going to do from now on.
Simply click on the User CP button and add the BBW. Poof, her posts disappear.Amen, HW19.
One click and her bullsh*t disappears.
Thanks, Jackson!!
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
Invisible Dude
11-11-08, 02:22
Invisible Dude - who were the girls you saw that weren't ripoffs as accused on the "verified" blog?Kelly/hernando
G Money Cool
11-11-08, 12:25
Ciara/Tampa Tori/MILF/Whatever Else
She's a clever girl, but I found a program that caught her.
http://tineye.com/
It's a program that People in Amsterdam have been using for years to verify girls they are potentially meeting. Thank you Netherlands!
http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/_brand_new_pic_of_one_of_tampa_s_hottest_young_blondes_/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1061030
http://www.flashybabes.com/Chanty-Model-5140.htmlLost in all the. I don't know what to call it. Here the last few days is the fact that the Scam Verified Blog seems to be losing steam in a big way.
For anyone who keeps an eye on the site, the number of reviews and comments is way, way down. I think you can attribute that to the fact that more and more people realize the reviews are tainted because Josh gets freebies and kickbacks, and many people know someone that has been wrongly labelled a ripoff.
I quoted this from another thread because it is relevant here. About the only activity that has happened on the site lately is Josh listing girls using fake pics. I suspect he found the "tinyeye.com" link from the other forum here. So instead of shaking down girls for freebies, he's resorted to doing due diligence for girls using fake pics. Now, that's a service I can appreciate. Wonder if Craigslist will give him a freebie for all his help?
Member #4558
11-11-08, 18:23
Another dog trying to piss on my leg.
I'm not logging back into this site without a box of milkbones from now on.
Thank you for that delightful and charming additional glimpse into your simply wonderful personality. You are truly the poster child for planned parenthood!
Now, I will simply do what I typically do with mouthy, ignorant bitches such as yourself. Ignore them.
Sorry Jackson, just had to let that one fly.
Greetings everyone,
Tampabbw has has apparently been suffering from some sort of mental condition for quite some time. In light of his/her/its psychological affliction, I've tried to be patient, but obviously his/her/its condition has been steadily deteriorating until he/she/it has now descended into some sort of complete mental breakdown.
Thsanks,
Jackson
Angeleyez727
11-13-08, 17:59
So I got this e mail today and was not sure exactly what he was
talking about, so I responded back to him. First e mail starts at the
bottom of this post...I am attaching some of the 6 photos he attached.
He sent this e mail to several BBW's from CL...
Its kinda funny anyway.
Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:44 PM
From: This sender is DomainKeys verified "Marcus Jonson" <omoweleo@yahoo.com>Add sender to Contacts To: eyesa61@yahoo.com
funny cuz ill just flag all your post
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From: Angel Eyes <eyesa61@yahoo.com>
To: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:28:31 PM
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE
Funny thing is, your just like Josh! The TEV site is not legit now becauseof him asking everyone for freebies in exchange for a "good review". Im straight though, I am only here for roses! Not freebies. And I am going to put you on blast by putting your e mail, pics and these e mail outs onthe usasexguide and craigslist.
--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE
To: eyesa61@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 8:54 PM
i own the site and im just trying to help you make more money. i can give you the number to other girls if you dont believe me about getting you 5-7 more customers. i only help freebies so one freebie can be f/s or just head relief its up to you what you want me to let them know. its one freebie= 5-7 customers or you want me to pay which wont get you a review sorry im only helping out
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From: Angel Eyes <eyesa61@yahoo.com>
To: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:51:46 PM
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE
Well if you want to be serviced then pick up the phone and set up and appt.Bring your roses and I will give you something to review.
--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE
To: eyesa61@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 8:44 PM
how can i review you if i was never serviced
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From: Angel Eyes <eyesa61@yahoo.com>
To: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42:12 PM
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE
cool. So put me on there.
--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Subject: HERE IS MY SITE
To: eyesa61@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 8:26 PM
here is the website http://www.sexyescortads.com/cities/female/tampa_escorts/
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From: Angel Eyes <eyesa61@yahoo.com>
To: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:19:14 PM
Subject: Re: I CAN VERIFY YOU SO YOU CAN GET 6-7 MORE CUSTOMERS GUARANTEED
Whats the site?
--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Subject: I CAN VERIFY YOU SO YOU CAN GET 6-7 MORE CUSTOMERS GUARANTEED
To: pers-917589228@craigslist.org, pers-917604805@craigslist.org, pers-917618425@craigslist.org, pers-917629347@craigslist.org, pers-917635085@craigslist.org
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 7:48 PM
HEY IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO HELP YOU GET VERIFIED WITH A REAL WEBSITE NOW THAT THE TEV AND TER HAS BEEN POSTED AS A FAKE I COULD PUT YOU UP ON MY SITE SO GUYS COULD CHECK IT OUT AND I GUARANTEE 6-7 MORE CUSTOMERS FROM MY SITE SO LET ME KNOW. I ATTACHED MY PICS JUST IN CASE YOU WANNA SEE WHAT I LOOK LIKE AND TO PROVE IM NOT A COP CUZ COPS CANT PUT PICS UP IN EMAILS. AND IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE YO U CAN HOLLA AT ME LOL JK BUT I WORK WITH TAMPA ELITE ESCORTS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EMAIL ME BACK
G Money Cool
11-14-08, 20:02
So I got this e mail today and was not sure exactly what he was
talking about, so I responded back to him. First e mail starts at the
bottom of this post...I am attaching some of the 6 photos he attached.
He sent this e mail to several BBW's from CL...
Its kinda funny anyway.
here is the website http://www.sexyescortads.com/cities/female/tampa_escorts/
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From: Angel Eyes <eyesa61@yahoo.com>
To: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:19:14 PM
Subject: Re: I CAN VERIFY YOU SO YOU CAN GET 6-7 MORE CUSTOMERS GUARANTEED
Whats the site?
--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Subject: I CAN VERIFY YOU SO YOU CAN GET 6-7 MORE CUSTOMERS GUARANTEED
To: pers-917589228@craigslist.org, pers-917604805@craigslist.org, pers-917618425@craigslist.org, pers-917629347@craigslist.org, pers-917635085@craigslist.org
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 7:48 PM
HEY IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO HELP YOU GET VERIFIED WITH A REAL WEBSITE NOW THAT THE TEV AND TER HAS BEEN POSTED AS A FAKE I COULD PUT YOU UP ON MY SITE SO GUYS COULD CHECK IT OUT AND I GUARANTEE 6-7 MORE CUSTOMERS FROM MY SITE SO LET ME KNOW. I ATTACHED MY PICS JUST IN CASE YOU WANNA SEE WHAT I LOOK LIKE AND TO PROVE IM NOT A COP CUZ COPS CANT PUT PICS UP IN EMAILS. AND IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE YO U CAN HOLLA AT ME LOL JK BUT I WORK WITH TAMPA ELITE ESCORTS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EMAIL ME BACK
I looked at the site, and the first girl I saw is well-known ripoff Heaven Lee, notorious cash and dash girl.
Josh - there's a new sheriff in town. He has a penchant for ugly chicks, and a poor command of the English language. Same skills you started out with - You should be worried...
because that site has been around for a long long time. I would be surprised if this fool had anything serious to do with it. Seems to me to be more likely just a scammer up to a new type ripoff.
Nemo
Chase Star
11-15-08, 02:28
He did CLAIM it as "MY SITE" even though it really isn't.
I wouldn't call it a "new type ripoff." It is strikingly similar to the game GFEReviewer was playing in terms of blackmailing (good reviews for freebies vs. flagging and bad reviews for refusing to go along). The only real difference was that at least the GFEReviewer really does have his own site as opposed to implicating someone else's site in his schemes. So at least give him some credit for that. This new guy is even lower and more pathetic than he is.
Now whether that site deserves our sympathy for being dragged into the scheme or not is another issue. As G Money Cool pointed out some of the other reviews on that site seem somewhat suspect.
Thanks to Angeleyez for outing this guy. Hopefully, she'll also share the info with other providers who would be his real potential victims, not us. This site is not just about outing bad providers. Bad hobbyists should be outed too because they bring the overall impression of all of us as clients among all providers. Unfortunately, among certain other providers with huge chips on their shoulders they can't seem to distinguish between guys who would treat all providers poorly and those that just aren't willing to meekly accept their particular crap. BTW, IMHO having calm classy rational NORMAL providers like Angel on this board is a huge asset as I appreciate the ability to hear her perspectives.
He did CLAIM it as "MY SITE" even though it really isn't.
There are sites out there that troll metro area escort sites and "steal" the pics and contact information. Many times you need to "join" their site to get info you otherwise might get for free. Pick a girl and/or her email address and Google it, you'd be surprised how many sites you hit. This even though the girl may have only ran an ad in a single place.
Recently a friend saw an independent girl in town. In the course of conversation he mentioned all the sites she was on. She did not believe him until he showed her. She was aghast and protested she only signed up on a single site.
R Consultant
11-15-08, 13:16
Instead of responding back to him and letting him know you even paid attention to his antics just post his email in an open forum with no response.
He will get bored with you and go away alot quicker.
Happy Hunting..
So I got this e mail today and was not sure exactly what he was
talking about, so I responded back to him. First e mail starts at the
bottom of this post...I am attaching some of the 6 photos he attached.
He sent this e mail to several BBW's from CL...
Its kinda funny anyway.
Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:44 PM
From: This sender is DomainKeys verified "Marcus Jonson" <omoweleo@yahoo.com>Add sender to Contacts To: eyesa61@yahoo.com
funny cuz ill just flag all your post
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Angel Eyes <eyesa61@yahoo.com>
To: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:28:31 PM
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE
Funny thing is, your just like Josh! The TEV site is not legit now becauseof him asking everyone for freebies in exchange for a "good review". Im straight though, I am only here for roses! Not freebies. And I am going to put you on blast by putting your e mail, pics and these e mail outs onthe usasexguide and craigslist.
--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE
To: eyesa61@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 8:54 PM
i own the site and im just trying to help you make more money. i can give you the number to other girls if you dont believe me about getting you 5-7 more customers. i only help freebies so one freebie can be f/s or just head relief its up to you what you want me to let them know. its one freebie= 5-7 customers or you want me to pay which wont get you a review sorry im only helping out
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Angel Eyes <eyesa61@yahoo.com>
To: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:51:46 PM
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE
Well if you want to be serviced then pick up the phone and set up and appt.Bring your roses and I will give you something to review.
--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE
To: eyesa61@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 8:44 PM
how can i review you if i was never serviced
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Angel Eyes <eyesa61@yahoo.com>
To: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42:12 PM
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE
cool. So put me on there.
--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Subject: HERE IS MY SITE
To: eyesa61@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 8:26 PM
here is the website http://www.sexyescortads.com/cities/female/tampa_escorts/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Angel Eyes <eyesa61@yahoo.com>
To: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:19:14 PM
Subject: Re: I CAN VERIFY YOU SO YOU CAN GET 6-7 MORE CUSTOMERS GUARANTEED
Whats the site?
--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Subject: I CAN VERIFY YOU SO YOU CAN GET 6-7 MORE CUSTOMERS GUARANTEED
To: pers-917589228@craigslist.org, pers-917604805@craigslist.org, pers-917618425@craigslist.org, pers-917629347@craigslist.org, pers-917635085@craigslist.org
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 7:48 PM
HEY IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO HELP YOU GET VERIFIED WITH A REAL WEBSITE NOW THAT THE TEV AND TER HAS BEEN POSTED AS A FAKE I COULD PUT YOU UP ON MY SITE SO GUYS COULD CHECK IT OUT AND I GUARANTEE 6-7 MORE CUSTOMERS FROM MY SITE SO LET ME KNOW. I ATTACHED MY PICS JUST IN CASE YOU WANNA SEE WHAT I LOOK LIKE AND TO PROVE IM NOT A COP CUZ COPS CANT PUT PICS UP IN EMAILS. AND IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE YO U CAN HOLLA AT ME LOL JK BUT I WORK WITH TAMPA ELITE ESCORTS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EMAIL ME BACK
Angeleyez727
11-18-08, 20:36
He did CLAIM it as "MY SITE" even though it really isn't.
Thanks to Angeleyez for outing this guy. Hopefully, she'll also share the info with other providers who would be his real potential victims, not us. This site is not just about outing bad providers. Bad hobbyists should be outed too because they bring the overall impression of all of us as clients among all providers. Unfortunately, among certain other providers with huge chips on their shoulders they can't seem to distinguish between guys who would treat all providers poorly and those that just aren't willing to meekly accept their particular crap. BTW, IMHO having calm classy rational NORMAL providers like Angel on this board is a huge asset as I appreciate the ability to hear her perspectives.Your welcome :)
If anything else, I figured you guys would get a little laugh out of it.
The sad thing is, I am sure someone will fall for it...
I would post it on CL but whats the point?
It would almost be like promoting his BS for him.
And I am not going to pay for that...lol
You already see how many girls are willing to do stuff like that for a
"good review", just look at Josh's site.
BTW... Can someone please tell me the meaning of IMHO? And I think the other one is YMMV?
Thanks
IMHO-- in my humble opinion
YMMV-- your mileage may vary (as in differing levels of service from same lady to different gentlemen)
FUBAR-- f'ed up beyond any repair
SNAFU-- situation normal, all f'ed up
G Money Cool
11-19-08, 08:50
Your welcome :)
If anything else, I figured you guys would get a little laugh out of it.
The sad thing is, I am sure someone will fall for it...
I would post it on CL but whats the point?
It would almost be like promoting his BS for him.
And I am not going to pay for that...lol
You already see how many girls are willing to do stuff like that for a
"good review", just look at Josh's site.
BTW... Can someone please tell me the meaning of IMHO? And I think the other one is YMMV?
ThanksClick the link "Abbreviations" at the top of the page, and all will be revealed.
G Money Cool
11-21-08, 12:02
Just checked out the "Legit Review Blog". Activity is still way, way down. One of Josh's soulmates - the 'Belly Button Lover' - has announced an ignominious retirement from hobbying. And Josh recently launched a poll - presumably wondering why his bitches weren't bringing in more money. I quote:
I think the economy has started to take its toll on people. I talk to random girls on a daily basis (if some of you consider that being their pimp, so be it) and alot of them are reporting that the demand has plummted down so bad(some are lucky if they get more than 1 call a day).
Reports of alot of people trying to get hour sessions from providers (specially an all inclusive gfe dream) for around 100 roses and of course alot of the girls are not willing to do something like that. So for those of you doing something like that, shame on you.
That's why i launched the poll above and so far 66% (26 votes) of the people who voted have indicated their spending has decreased while only 28% (11 votes) people have indicated that it has stayed the same and 5% (2 votes) indicated it has become obsolete (meaning not spending any at all due to loss of job or cant afford it).Now, I ask you. How can you run a forum that is supposed to be for guys to get the most bang for their buck, yet chastise guys for trying to put the laws of supply and demand into play? Demand is down because people have less money to spend. Supply is in excess, as more girls come onto CL and other boards. Naturally, prices are going to come down. But pimp-boy-wonder here thinks it's shameful to try to barter over it? Give me a break. The real reason he's trying to shame people into paying "retail" prices is the girls are much less likely to kick him his cut if they are slashing prices.
For any of the remaining followers of that blog. You can't possibly tell me you think Josh is doing this out of the kindness of his heart. Calling up girls daily asking how many sessions they had. That's not concern, that's accounting. He's an internet-weenie pimp. Instead of a backhand, he uses his bogus blog and his craigslist flagging software to keep girls in line.
Member #4216
11-22-08, 02:43
Let me state for the record that I am a totally independent lady.
Regardless of any site you see my listed on, I am not associated with any agency, individual, et cetera.....No one but me and my family reap the benefits of what I do.
I resent any insinuations to the contrary and wish to dispell them totally and 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt.
And my business is not down, it's doing quite well.
Chase Star
11-22-08, 15:16
Scarlett,
What you said about being totally independent may very well be true. In fact, I'm sure it is. However, I don't think anyone here ever said or even insinuated that you were working for a pimp or agency. If you reread the post that seems to have prompted your disclaimer, you'll see that the only one actually using the "pimp" term was your buddy Josh. He seems to THINK that others consider him to be a pimp and he doesn't seem to have any problem with that (in fact I suspect he might actually get off on it). So if you have a problem with that image maybe you should take your complaints directly to him for feeding that impression with his various actions.
A pimp or escort agency takes a monetary cut out of a provider's take. What this Josh guy does is demand freebies or big discounts from the providers who are listed on his site on the justification that his reviews are bringing them more business (hence why he is checking up on them regularly and is so concerned that everyone ELSE pay "his girls" top dollar). That is NOT exactly the same thing as being a pimp or agency which gets a set amount for each and every session. But it IS like being an advertising agency. After all, YOU said that you were "listed" on his site.
If you want to clarify anything about your relationship to this Josh guy, maybe you should tell us honestly what if anything you have done for Josh (ie what benefits he has reaped) in exchange for being "listed" so favorably. I believe you when you say all the FINANCIAL benefits go to you and your family (ie that you don't give any of your money to this Josh guy) but there are OTHER ways that he can benefit. Maybe you have done nothing special. Maybe you don't have to. You have gotten favorable reviews elsewhere. However, with so many reports of coercive practices on the part of this guy, it would be hard for us to believe that he has not at least been leaning on you heavily for a little extra sugar (if not completely free sessions then at least heavily discounted ones). Are you also ready to disclaim that none of even that has been going on? How is it possible that so many other girls have been reporting such incidents and yet Josh has no interest in pulling the same shakedown with you?
We should have been more clear. I don't think anyone here considers this Josh guy to be a REAL pimp. We consider him more to be a pimp WANNABEE, a would-be playah, a "man of real influence" in his own mind. And that makes a big difference. A pimp is a scum seeking leech, but a guy who effectively WANTS to be a pimp but doesn't quite pull it off is even more pathetic.
But what does this mean for you? If a provider gets a good review from this Josh guy, that doesn't mean she isn't really good, but it doesn't mean she really is good either (the same thing applies on the flipside to his bad reviews). And therein lies your PR problem. When you lay down with dogs you sometimes get fleas. This Josh guy has got a very bad reputation around here. And, fairly or not, whenever a provider gets a good write-up from him the natural suspicion comes up what that provider really did to get that good review. You say your business is up. Maybe that really is partially due to your good reviews on his blogsite or maybe it is simply because you're a good provider. In either case, you have to take the good with bad and decide whether whatever benefit you might derive from being "listed" on his blogsite is worth the natural suspicions that inevitably come with that. If you don't want people questioning what your relationship is to a guy with such a horrible reputation, then maybe what you should do is either cut your associations with him or fully and honestly disclose what your associations are.
The recent discussion brings back memories. And not all of them good.
There was a old Tampa fellow named Kelly and he ran a website that offered reviews, commentary, and escort ads. He and the site became very popular and some of us on this board were active contributors. But he played the "Josh game". If, as a girl, you "took care of Kelly", then he made sure only good reviews were posted about you. If you didn't play ball, he would either ignore you or make sure your reputation was smeared. Some girls thought taking care of Kelly was the price of doing business. They were wrong... His pandering led to a racketeering indictment.
R Consultant
11-22-08, 20:21
Chase is right on the money. I don't get why people get so abrasive and wanting resolve of an issue unless there's something underlying.
I think Josh should have a new name like Pornocchio. He watches some porn and then thinks hes done all that and wants to be that guy. Such a wannabe pimp its sad.Of course he lies so dam much his nose should be as long as the Mississippi River.
Does anyone know if this guy actually works?
Happy Hunting..
Scarlett,
What you said about being totally independent may very well be true. In fact, I'm sure it is. However, I don't think anyone here ever said or even insinuated that you were working for a pimp or agency. If you reread the post that seems to have prompted your disclaimer, you'll see that the only one actually using the "pimp" term was your buddy Josh. He seems to THINK that others consider him to be a pimp and he doesn't seem to have any problem with that (in fact I suspect he might actually get off on it). So if you have a problem with that image maybe you should take your complaints directly to him for feeding that impression with his various actions.
A pimp or escort agency takes a monetary cut out of a provider's take. What this Josh guy does is demand freebies or big discounts from the providers who are listed on his site on the justification that his reviews are bringing them more business (hence why he is checking up on them regularly and is so concerned that everyone ELSE pay "his girls" top dollar). That is NOT exactly the same thing as being a pimp or agency which gets a set amount for each and every session. But it IS like being an advertising agency. After all, YOU said that you were "listed" on his site.
If you want to clarify anything about your relationship to this Josh guy, maybe you should tell us honestly what if anything you have done for Josh (ie what benefits he has reaped) in exchange for being "listed" so favorably. I believe you when you say all the FINANCIAL benefits go to you and your family (ie that you don't give any of your money to this Josh guy) but there are OTHER ways that he can benefit. Maybe you have done nothing special. Maybe you don't have to. You have gotten favorable reviews elsewhere. However, with so many reports of coercive practices on the part of this guy, it would be hard for us to believe that he has not at least been leaning on you heavily for a little extra sugar (if not completely free sessions then at least heavily discounted ones). Are you also ready to disclaim that none of even that has been going on? How is it possible that so many other girls have been reporting such incidents and yet Josh has no interest in pulling the same shakedown with you?
We should have been more clear. I don't think anyone here considers this Josh guy to be a REAL pimp. We consider him more to be a pimp WANNABEE, a would-be playah, a "man of real influence" in his own mind. And that makes a big difference. A pimp is a scum seeking leech, but a guy who effectively WANTS to be a pimp but doesn't quite pull it off is even more pathetic.
But what does this mean for you? If a provider gets a good review from this Josh guy, that doesn't mean she isn't really good, but it doesn't mean she really is good either (the same thing applies on the flipside to his bad reviews). And therein lies your PR problem. When you lay down with dogs you sometimes get fleas. This Josh guy has got a very bad reputation around here. And, fairly or not, whenever a provider gets a good write-up from him the natural suspicion comes up what that provider really did to get that good review. You say your business is up. Maybe that really is partially due to your good reviews on his blogsite or maybe it is simply because you're a good provider. In either case, you have to take the good with bad and decide whether whatever benefit you might derive from being "listed" on his blogsite is worth the natural suspicions that inevitably come with that. If you don't want people questioning what your relationship is to a guy with such a horrible reputation, then maybe what you should do is either cut your associations with him or fully and honestly disclose what your associations are.
Chase Star
11-22-08, 21:39
Does anyone know if this guy actually works?Obviously, he doesn't have the chops to make it as a REAL pimp.
I've heard somewhere that he works at the same Publix as Tammy Toole (aka TampaBBW) only instead of working in the bakery department with the Pillsbury Doughgirl he works in deli where he spends most of his time playing "hide the salami" (on himself) and by salami I mean literally salami, so I wouldn't shop there if I were you. Of course, that might just be a rumor but you never know.
R Consultant
11-22-08, 22:18
I actually like Publix to. I think your right Miss Toole Belt Bish needs a punk like him to run together like to peas in a pod.
You have to laugh at those two clowns.
Happy Hunting..
Obviously, he doesn't have the chops to make it as a REAL pimp.
I've heard somewhere that he works at the same Publix as Tammy Toole (aka TampaBBW) only instead of working in the bakery department with the Pillsbury Doughgirl he works in deli where he spends most of his time playing "hide the salami" (on himself) and by salami I mean literally salami, so I wouldn't shop there if I were you. Of course, that might just be a rumor but you never know.
Member #4558
11-23-08, 08:59
The recent discussion brings back memories. And not all of them good.
There was a old Tampa fellow named Kelly and he ran a website that offered reviews, commentary, and escort ads. He and the site became very popular and some of us on this board were active contributors. But he played the "Josh game". If, as a girl, you "took care of Kelly", then he made sure only good reviews were posted about you. If you didn't play ball, he would either ignore you or make sure your reputation was smeared. Some girls thought taking care of Kelly was the price of doing business. They were wrong... His pandering led to a racketeering indictment.
And much like our buddy Josh, he flaunted it to the world. Charged for his site memberships to. Made lots of money. Almost bragging about it. That more than anything got the attention of the local law dogs and OFC was born.
G Money Cool
11-24-08, 02:09
Let me state for the record that I am a totally independent lady.
Regardless of any site you see my listed on, I am not associated with any agency, individual, et cetera.....No one but me and my family reap the benefits of what I do.
I resent any insinuations to the contrary and wish to dispell them totally and 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt.
And my business is not down, it's doing quite well.You don't have to justify yourself to me. You've already revealed your true colors, when you sent me a PM asking if I could protect you from the Tampa BBW. If you were truly independent, you wouldn't be caught up in this mess. As I told you before, if you publically renounce your relationship with Josh, you'd find a lot more support on this board. But to think you'll come here and use this for leverage, well, good luck to you. But up to now, I've seen nothing from you but opportunism. You come here seeking support, yet you still pander to the "Legit" blog. You run to Tammy Toole for support. But I still see you advertise on his new ning site. Don't get me wrong. Do what you need to do to survive. But don't come here all self righteous about your business. You are what you are.
Angeleyez727
11-24-08, 17:23
You don't have to justify yourself to me. You've already revealed your true colors, when you sent me a PM asking if I could protect you from the Tampa BBW. If you were truly independent, you wouldn't be caught up in this mess. As I told you before, if you publically renounce your relationship with Josh, you'd find a lot more support on this board. But to think you'll come here and use this for leverage, well, good luck to you. But up to now, I've seen nothing from you but opportunism. You come here seeking support, yet you still pander to the "Legit" blog. You run to Tammy Toole for support. But I still see you advertise on his new ning site. Don't get me wrong. Do what you need to do to survive. But don't come here all self righteous about your business. You are what you are.Well said!
SmackThatAss
11-25-08, 02:18
After reading this mess over Scarlett G-Money is so right. You are a Ho! A Ho is a Ho is a Ho! I said it 3 times to get your attention. You let Josh pimp you out and you want to get away. It shows so clear like water.
For all the benefits hes getting I know we all could protect you for the free stuff your giving up. Where do you sign up?
G Money Cool
11-25-08, 09:33
For those of you who follow the Eros Guide, you may have noticed a touring girl named Christy Lamour. Hails from Miami, works for the Elite Connexxxions agency. I've seen a girl Tatiana from that agency a year or so back. Quality service, reputable agency. Anyway, I noticed on the Legit Blog yesterday, el pimpito Josh is advertising Christy, offering people to go through him to book her directly (not through the agency). He's even offering a different rate structure than she is listing on Eros. "Please let her know I referred you. I am planning on meeting up with her Thursday before she leaves" implores Josh. Sure you are. You want to demand your share of the $$.
I must admit, I'm only a hobbyist and have not walked on the provider side of the road. But I have to imagine the agency would not be happy to have him move in on one of their touring girls. It's not as if he's just advertising for them with a banner. He is literally offering to cut them out. Not sure if Elite Connexxxions has any muscle behind it. It would be nice if they did.
Josh. I know you are reading this. Might want to watch your back when you go to meet up with her. The agency might just send someone to have a dream about you.
G Money Cool
11-25-08, 16:49
This is making for quite an entertaining day of reading. The delusions of grandeur have reached new heights. A few selective excerpts from the latest musing of the wannebe weenie pimp.
I got 2 interesting emails this week. One was from a company that wants to buy out the blog for 5K. The other was from the Editor/creator of GFE Nation asking me if I would be interested in writting a weekly blog about the industry as a whole. Hmmm...
Anyways, Interestingly enough, I went and seen a provider last night (review i coming but will be basic because I know she doesnt like detailed reviews having spoken to other people who seen her in perso), and during our discussion, the whole bashing me part on other sites came up. She advised me that when everyone thinks you are the pimp daddy of people in the area, everyone is jealous of you. Is that what people see me as? No seriously, i need some honest feedback here...
I never asked anyone to visit my site..you will never find me advertising my site on CL or backpage or any other place out there....
...This site was meant for you people and to help YOU out, but you have turned it into an ugly thing. I've said it before and I will repeat it. I really could care less what people do with the info on this site. I could care less what a handful (those dozen or so) of people's opinion of me out there is as well.
I took the oppurtunity to go into my stats counter today...You can see, the number of first time visitors on a daily basis averages to about 520 people, and roughly 300 returning visitors, for a total of 800 visitors per day to the site (that's just October). ...Hell even my ******* doesnt get 800 hits a day and its on a network of 300 million people worldwide.The post is actually much longer and full of more self-adulation, but I am trying to limit the length. So Josh thinks his site gets more visitors than *******, and he is considering selling it for $5, 000. Hey, internet genius, didn't you know ******* was bought for $580 million back in 2005? Or that Microsoft paid $240 million for 1. 6% of Facebook, essentially meaning that site is worth $15 billion? You should definitely hold out for more cash. Unless your underlying assumption is wrong. You may want to check that out before going to the bargaining table. The stats I've seen say that ******* gets about 115 million visitors per month, which is just under 4 million per day. 4 million, 800, aw, it's close enough. Let's call it even.
Member #4558
11-25-08, 18:51
For those of you who follow the Eros Guide, you may have noticed a touring girl named Christy Lamour. Hails from Miami, works for the Elite Connexxxions agency. I've seen a girl Tatiana from that agency a year or so back. Quality service, reputable agency. Anyway, I noticed on the Legit Blog yesterday, el pimpito Josh is advertising Christy, offering people to go through him to book her directly (not through the agency). He's even offering a different rate structure than she is listing on Eros. "Please let her know I referred you. I am planning on meeting up with her Thursday before she leaves" implores Josh. Sure you are. You want to demand your share of the $$.
I must admit, I'm only a hobbyist and have not walked on the provider side of the road. But I have to imagine the agency would not be happy to have him move in on one of their touring girls. It's not as if he's just advertising for them with a banner. He is literally offering to cut them out. Not sure if Elite Connexxxions has any muscle behind it. It would be nice if they did.
Josh. I know you are reading this. Might want to watch your back when you go to meet up with her. The agency might just send someone to have a dream about you.
Well, has anyone informed the agency of what is going on here? They might just like ti know. And do we know if the girl has any knowledge of his actions? She might not know what he is doing either.
NinaLatina
11-25-08, 21:11
"You are a Ho! A Ho is a Ho is a Ho! I said it 3 times to get your attention. You let Josh pimp you out and you want to get away. It shows so clear like water.
For all the benefits hes getting I know we all could protect you for the free stuff your giving up. Where do you sign up? ". SMACK
Mr. Smack, Speaking like that, you sure showed the ladies how insulting you can be. This is a hobby, why are you so hateful? Just curious, thought this hobby is supposed to de-stess you.
G Money Cool
11-26-08, 09:58
Nina Latina. I noticed your reply here. Welcome to this forum. I also noticed you are a recent addition to the "Legit" blog, though your review came from someone other than Josh himself. Do you have any info about the way Josh approaches girls? Did the guy who review you tell you he was posting you on that blog? Had Josh ever contacted you before asking if you wanted to be "verified"? I'd be very interested to know what, if any, contact you had with him before or after your review was posted.
My (very limited and unscientific) research into the goings on there indicate that, when another member of that board brings forward the first review on a girl, Josh doesn't seem to approach them and ask them for freebies or for money for the business he brings your way. Seems like pretty obvious reasons for this. The initial review is already out there, which reduces his leverage. If you turn down his request for a freebie and he tries to call you a bad provider, he would then have a pissing match with the original poster, which is bad for business. And if he just flat out asks for money, you could go back to the original reviewer and expose him.
No, from the girls I've talked to, he tends to go for girls who are new posters to CL, no reviews anywhere, and put his proposition forward before they have anywhere else to turn. It's becoming more difficult for him now, as he can't flag relentlessly. That, and the growing number of people who have witnessed first hand his tactics makes it increasingly difficult for him to find an unsuspecting victim.
Hopefully you manage to not get tangled in his web.
G
G Money Cool
11-26-08, 10:01
Well, has anyone informed the agency of what is going on here? They might just like ti know. And do we know if the girl has any knowledge of his actions? She might not know what he is doing either.Noticed this girl is also advertised on Rocco's Escorts site. For all I know, maybe that's tied up somehow with Elite Connexxxions. But it also could be that this girl free lances and let's many agencies try to book her. It's an interesting concept.
R Consultant
11-26-08, 10:18
Hey Smack - She even called you Mister.. I for one like the deal when I get all my stress taken away. I say you kiss up and be a good boy!
Dam you need to get laid in a bad way. If you want RTFF and you can find a freak that will make you happy. Trust me on this you will find one who can get the job done.
Happy Hunting..
Chase Star
11-26-08, 12:09
SmackThat, I think NinaLatina has a point.
This thread is supposed to be focused on the TEV blogsite scam and the GFEReviewer and not the providers who were suckered by him. Scarlett may have been naive to fall for this Josh guy's scam but that is no reason to be so harsh towards her. She's still in most respects also just a victim in this little drama. Let's never lose the focus that this Josh guy is the real scumbag.
I agree that Scarlett set herself up for her "damned if you do and damned if you don't" position when she fell for this Josh guy's "bring you more business" line and got into bed with him, both figuratively and literally speaking. I also agree that she is being unrealistic to expect everyone here to ignore the fact that she has failed to really denounce this bozo and continues her association with the guy. She seems to want to have it both ways, getting whatever benefit she can because of the TEV blogsite seal of approval while not suffering the suspicion and derision that comes from various quarters, including USG, for being associated with that blogsite. And when she "dost protest too much" as she did when she responded to a post that was not even about her she only serves to heighten our awareness of her other associations not squash them or let them die as she said she wanted to have happen earlier. So to that extent, she gets somewhat less sympathy from me.
OTOH, I'd be willing to allow that ONCE she initially agreed to that freebie session, she put herself into essentially a no win situation. She can either continue to accept the positive press on the TEV blogsite and whatever business that brings her at the expense of all the natural suspicions and doubt that comes with that from everyone else that knows how that blogsite really works or she can completely and publicly disavow any further association with that blogsite at the risk of this Josh guy changing the reviews for her from good to bad and possibly harming her business amongst all those hobbyists who don't know that the blogsite is a scam. Either way she stands to lose as much as she can gain and I don't envy her those choices.
Unfortunately for her at this point those ARE her only choices and that is the result of the (uninformed) choice she made earlier when she gave this Josh guy his free session. I suppose continuing to try and have it both ways as she has been is another choice, but then she shouldn't complain about the consequences of that either.
I'll happily offer her yet one more option. If she wants to dispel this notion that the TEV reviews were biased and inaccurate, she could provide a FREE session to me and I'd be happy to offer my own truly HONEST and IMPARTIAL review of her on here (and TER and anywhere else she wants). I'm sure we could come up with a way for her REALLY not to know its me until after the session is over and its time to "pay up". For example, if she's interested she can PM me a "coupon code word" of her choosing, then I can make an appointment with her at some random time without revealing at all who I am and only use my "coupon" at the very end. That should eliminate any possibility that she is putting extra effort into her performance that she wouldn't otherwise have been just so she can get a good review. Also, unlike this Josh guy, I won't hide the fact of what I paid in my review but I'll also say what I WOULD have been willing to pay. Sure, I'll admit that this idea is a little crazy and self-serving (assuming she is really as good as she claims) but no more so than what she has already been willing to do with this Josh guy only I think that I've demonstrated more of an ability to be tough but fair to all sides and honest in all my postings.
G Money Cool
11-26-08, 12:33
G Money, I think NinaLatina has a point.
This thread is supposed to be focused on the TEV blogsite scam and the GFEReviewer and not the providers who were suckered by him. Scarlett may have been naive to fall for this Josh guy's scam but that is no reason to be so harsh towards her. She's still in most respects also just a victim in this little drama. Let's never lose the focus that this Josh guy is the real scumbag.
I agree that Scarlett set herself up for her "damned if you do and damned if you don't" position when she fell for this Josh guy's "bring you more business" line and got into bed with him, both figuratively and literally speaking. I also agree that she is being unrealistic to expect everyone here to ignore the fact that she has failed to really denounce this bozo and continues her association with the guy. She seems to want to have it both ways, getting whatever benefit she can because of the TEV blogsite seal of approval while not suffering the suspicion and derision that comes from various quarters, including USG, for being associated with that blogsite. And when she "dost protest too much" as she did when she responded to a post that was not even about her she only serves to heighten our awareness of her other associations not squash them or let them die as she said she wanted to have happen earlier. So to that extent, she gets somewhat less sympathy from me.
OTOH, I'd be willing to allow that ONCE she initially agreed to that freebie session, she put herself into essentially a no win situation. She can either continue to accept the positive press on the TEV blogsite and whatever business that brings her at the expense of all the natural suspicions and doubt that comes with that from everyone else that knows how that blogsite really works or she can completely and publicly disavow any further association with that blogsite at the risk of this Josh guy changing the reviews for her from good to bad and possibly harming her business amongst all those hobbyists who don't know that the blogsite is a scam. Either way she stands to lose as much as she can gain and I don't envy her those choices.
Unfortunately for her at this point those ARE her only choices and that is the result of the (uninformed) choice she made earlier when she gave this Josh guy his free session. I suppose continuing to try and have it both ways as she has been is another choice, but then she shouldn't complain about the consequences of that either.
I'll happily offer her yet one more option. If she wants to dispel this notion that the TEV reviews were biased and inaccurate, she could provide a FREE session to me and I'd be happy to offer my own truly HONEST and IMPARTIAL review of her on here (and TER and anywhere else she wants). I'm sure we could come up with a way for her REALLY not to know its me until after the session is over and its time to "pay up". For example, if she's interested she can PM me a "coupon code word" of her choosing, then I can make an appointment with her at some random time without revealing at all who I am and only use my "coupon" at the very end. That should eliminate any possibility that she is putting extra effort into her performance that she wouldn't otherwise have been just so she can get a good review. Also, unlike this Josh guy, I won't hide the fact of what I paid in my review but I'll also say what I WOULD have been willing to pay. Sure, I'll admit that this idea is a little crazy and self-serving (assuming she is really as good as she claims) but no more so than what she has already been willing to do with this Josh guy only I think that I've demonstrated more of an ability to be tough but fair to all sides and honest in all my postings.And although Nina Latina was addressing another member, I will respond here and say what seemed to have gotten Scarlett stirred up was my post where I talked about Josh considering himself a pimp. For Scarlett to feel the need to respond to that to set the record straight, when it wasn't explicitly or implicitly directed at her, was revealing (I. E. "I resent any insinuation. "). Many girls have gotten caught in his trap and now regret it. Some have cut ties with him and in some cases have suffered because he is vengeful. Others have embraced it and are fully on board with his scam, denying any freebies or remuneration, effectively enabling him.
In Scarlett's case, she is trying to play it mulitple ways. She let's Josh think she's still in his circle, but she also comes here and asserts she is 100% independent, and then goes to Tammy the BBW and gets herself promoted on her site as well. My point was simply this. She doesn't need to come here and reassure me that she is indpependent. It seems like she needs to reassure herself. My first post insinuated nothing about her. I personally don't care if I'm seeing an agency girl or a 100% independent. How you manage your finances, promotion, etc is your business. If you want to declare yourself as independent, declare it to the people who are actively promoting and advertisting you. Namely Josh, who as recently as 2 weeks ago had Scarlett up as the Featured Provider of the Week.
Chase Star
11-26-08, 20:48
GMoney, you're right. I meant to address that to SmackThat and I have corrected my post. You've been a LITTLE harsh at times yourself, but have really not been that bad. What SmackThat posted was what really went over the top. Any way, I apologize for the mix up.
You also made a good point about whether a girl works with an agency, a pimp or is fully independent is really her personal business. The real issue here is whether her reviews have any credibility and by her own admission the review by this Josh guy was received after providing him a free session. She may have been expecting any honest review by him but we all know that is not how he works so that review at least is really meaningless.
SmackThatAss
11-26-08, 21:01
Why do you think of yourselves any more than what you are? A hooker is a hooker! You raise the price thinking we the "jon" owe you more because you can have computer access. Get Real! I find it amusing that you think so highly of yourself but your no better than a hooker on the street.
So smack that ass up and do the only thing you know how to do since it shows you have no brains or education to do anything else. If you had an education why in the world would you lower yourself to such a life.
Now that I have seen Nina I have decided that cheesy MP is a joke. I figured why not see for myself so I can review it. No matter what price they all lower down I was told. I was told I get special pricing and keep to myself. If I told you guys how much I spent you would laugh as they go high and sell rock bottom low. I bet that is so the girls don't tell the owner of the actual amount they are making. I saw a camera so plan on getting recorded. I guesss they blackmail you later. I bet some guy is wacking off somewhere watching his hookers get banged. You MP needs a real update to. You have like 1980's look time to spend some of the owners pimp money and do some renovating. These girls sit out around and jabber on the phones and they are very very loud. Stuck up hookers is a key ingredient in this shop. I can see why the local cops are driving around. I really think if you want to be a hooker you would have a better assortment of hookers to choose from in a cheesy shop. I think I will head back to my happy shop like FT or Aloha. A place where you get respected and taken care of the right way.
"You are a Ho! A Ho is a Ho is a Ho! I said it 3 times to get your attention. You let Josh pimp you out and you want to get away. It shows so clear like water.
For all the benefits hes getting I know we all could protect you for the free stuff your giving up. Where do you sign up? ". SMACK
Mr. Smack, Speaking like that, you sure showed the ladies how insulting you can be. This is a hobby, why are you so hateful? Just curious, thought this hobby is supposed to de-stess you.
R Consultant
11-26-08, 21:15
I think a free session just to set things right would do wonders for her reputation. At least your are a very highly respected senior member within this forum. Plus at least we know your are going to honest and present the facts as you see them. Way to go Chase.
Good Luck and have a dam good time.
Happy Hunting..
QUOTE=Chase Star]SmackThat, I think NinaLatina has a point.
This thread is supposed to be focused on the TEV blogsite scam and the GFEReviewer and not the providers who were suckered by him. Scarlett may have been naive to fall for this Josh guy's scam but that is no reason to be so harsh towards her. She's still in most respects also just a victim in this little drama. Let's never lose the focus that this Josh guy is the real scumbag.
I agree that Scarlett set herself up for her "damned if you do and damned if you don't" position when she fell for this Josh guy's "bring you more business" line and got into bed with him, both figuratively and literally speaking. I also agree that she is being unrealistic to expect everyone here to ignore the fact that she has failed to really denounce this bozo and continues her association with the guy. She seems to want to have it both ways, getting whatever benefit she can because of the TEV blogsite seal of approval while not suffering the suspicion and derision that comes from various quarters, including USG, for being associated with that blogsite. And when she "dost protest too much" as she did when she responded to a post that was not even about her she only serves to heighten our awareness of her other associations not squash them or let them die as she said she wanted to have happen earlier. So to that extent, she gets somewhat less sympathy from me.
OTOH, I'd be willing to allow that ONCE she initially agreed to that freebie session, she put herself into essentially a no win situation. She can either continue to accept the positive press on the TEV blogsite and whatever business that brings her at the expense of all the natural suspicions and doubt that comes with that from everyone else that knows how that blogsite really works or she can completely and publicly disavow any further association with that blogsite at the risk of this Josh guy changing the reviews for her from good to bad and possibly harming her business amongst all those hobbyists who don't know that the blogsite is a scam. Either way she stands to lose as much as she can gain and I don't envy her those choices.
Unfortunately for her at this point those ARE her only choices and that is the result of the (uninformed) choice she made earlier when she gave this Josh guy his free session. I suppose continuing to try and have it both ways as she has been is another choice, but then she shouldn't complain about the consequences of that either.
I'll happily offer her yet one more option. If she wants to dispel this notion that the TEV reviews were biased and inaccurate, she could provide a FREE session to me and I'd be happy to offer my own truly HONEST and IMPARTIAL review of her on here (and TER and anywhere else she wants). I'm sure we could come up with a way for her REALLY not to know its me until after the session is over and its time to "pay up". For example, if she's interested she can PM me a "coupon code word" of her choosing, then I can make an appointment with her at some random time without revealing at all who I am and only use my "coupon" at the very end. That should eliminate any possibility that she is putting extra effort into her performance that she wouldn't otherwise have been just so she can get a good review. Also, unlike this Josh guy, I won't hide the fact of what I paid in my review but I'll also say what I WOULD have been willing to pay. Sure, I'll admit that this idea is a little crazy and self-serving (assuming she is really as good as she claims) but no more so than what she has already been willing to do with this Josh guy only I think that I've demonstrated more of an ability to be tough but fair to all sides and honest in all my postings.[/QUOTE]
Clinton Bush
11-26-08, 22:12
How is it that I have been "invited" to join this dirtbags site? .
The little scumbag (a/k/a Josh da pimple faced pimpanzee) was probably here reading these posts and figured it out.
Gwen, I for one applaud you as you (unlike some of the other providers posting here) were able to see through his bullcrap and didn't fall for his high pressure tactics. Good for you for calling him out on it.
R Consultant
11-27-08, 02:15
This goes to show women do have a brain unlike some ladies who have fell for this pricks games. I hope you speaking up will give others a voice and tell josh to get bent.
But if you interested - I would like to invite you to my private Xmas party- I like to call it 1-2-3 Roll!! Its alot of fun and you might even get some good sleep the next day. Gwen you can PM me for details.
Happy Hunting..
How is it that I have been "invited" to join this dirtbags site? It states:
"Hi there, I was given emails address of some of you by some members of the board to invite you to join in the discussion on the message board. This site is by invite only and it is drama free. "
Why would a hobbyist provide that information without my knowledge? I am really offended, I believe that if it IS true, that member is acting in poor taste. Or is it that, Josh himself can find out this certain information?
Again, I am with Nina, what happened to this hobby being a journey to pleasuretown? Some afternoon delight?
And, I thank you hobbyists whom remain complete gentleman, and take care of us ladies.
G Money Cool
11-27-08, 07:17
How is it that I have been "invited" to join this dirtbags site? It states:
"Hi there, I was given emails address of some of you by some members of the board to invite you to join in the discussion on the message board. This site is by invite only and it is drama free. "
Why would a hobbyist provide that information without my knowledge? I am really offended, I believe that if it IS true, that member is acting in poor taste. Or is it that, Josh himself can find out this certain information?
Again, I am with Nina, what happened to this hobby being a journey to pleasuretown? Some afternoon delight?
And, I thank you hobbyists whom remain complete gentleman, and take care of us ladies.Either way, I'm not surprised. Josh, the bologna-smelling oompa loompa, seems to fancy himself an internet messiah. He seems to constantly collect pictures, and email addresses, and he claims to have all kinds of private info on providers. I'm not sure how true it is, but all over his blog site he says things like "if you don't see a girl here, email me because I probably have some info on her somewhere". I do know when he launched the new ning site of his, I got invitations to a few different email addresses I had used to log in and read his blog over time. So I can confirm he is at least an email address collector. If you ever had your email address in a post here, or a post anywhere for that matter, it's likely that he snagged it for his own contact list.
Anyway, you seem to be well established so you should have no problems telling him where to shove his message board, without fear of him smearing your rep.
SmackThatAss
11-28-08, 02:33
I have some free time on Monday and Tuesday so I will try Nina out one more time and report back. I got some PM's from you guys that say she is good at times. I really like the smooth ass and jelly roll she has it was fun making it bounce and listen to her moans. For a short chick with huge tits it might get better in time I'm not really sure. What is the secret to getting the other girls to be quiet while your in the room getting serviced. I like to concentrate and listen to the moans and her saliva sucking sounds all over my cock. Yes its nasty but that is what these Ho's do best iI think if they knew something better in life they would do it. But when you have limited knowledge this is their last resort. Do you think if I wear ear plugs that would be rude?
Why do you think of yourselves any more than what you are? A hooker is a hooker! You raise the price thinking we the "jon" owe you more because you can have computer access. Get Real! I find it amusing that you think so highly of yourself but your no better than a hooker on the street.
So smack that ass up and do the only thing you know how to do since it shows you have no brains or education to do anything else. If you had an education why in the world would you lower yourself to such a life.
Now that I have seen Nina I have decided that cheesy MP is a joke. I figured why not see for myself so I can review it. No matter what price they all lower down I was told. I was told I get special pricing and keep to myself. If I told you guys how much I spent you would laugh as they go high and sell rock bottom low. I bet that is so the girls don't tell the owner of the actual amount they are making. I saw a camera so plan on getting recorded. I guesss they blackmail you later. I bet some guy is wacking off somewhere watching his hookers get banged. You MP needs a real update to. You have like 1980's look time to spend some of the owners pimp money and do some renovating. These girls sit out around and jabber on the phones and they are very very loud. Stuck up hookers is a key ingredient in this shop. I can see why the local cops are driving around. I really think if you want to be a hooker you would have a better assortment of hookers to choose from in a cheesy shop. I think I will head back to my happy shop like FT or Aloha. A place where you get respected and taken care of the right way.
R Consultant
11-28-08, 03:39
I think I will have to go a few arounds with one of these ladies just to find out if your on key. I know I have bounced around with one of them and she was fine. I give personal info PM style as I dont decorate the page with this and thats.
Christmas is right around the corner guys we might as well get us a hot little relief special. After listening to our SO complain about what I didnt do its nice to hear a woman just say yes once in awhile.. Ya Baby!
Sign me up -- fill up the gas tank and lets roll....
Why do you think of yourselves any more than what you are? A hooker is a hooker! You raise the price thinking we the "jon" owe you more because you can have computer access. Get Real! I find it amusing that you think so highly of yourself but your no better than a hooker on the street.
So smack that ass up and do the only thing you know how to do since it shows you have no brains or education to do anything else. If you had an education why in the world would you lower yourself to such a life.
Now that I have seen Nina I have decided that cheesy MP is a joke. I figured why not see for myself so I can review it. No matter what price they all lower down I was told. I was told I get special pricing and keep to myself. If I told you guys how much I spent you would laugh as they go high and sell rock bottom low. I bet that is so the girls don't tell the owner of the actual amount they are making. I saw a camera so plan on getting recorded. I guesss they blackmail you later. I bet some guy is wacking off somewhere watching his hookers get banged. You MP needs a real update to. You have like 1980's look time to spend some of the owners pimp money and do some renovating. These girls sit out around and jabber on the phones and they are very very loud. Stuck up hookers is a key ingredient in this shop. I can see why the local cops are driving around. I really think if you want to be a hooker you would have a better assortment of hookers to choose from in a cheesy shop. I think I will head back to my happy shop like FT or Aloha. A place where you get respected and taken care of the right way.
Either way, I'm not surprised. Josh, the bologna-smelling oompa loompa, seems to fancy himself an internet messiah. He seems to constantly collect pictures, and email addresses, and he claims to have all kinds of private info on providers. I'm not sure how true it is, but all over his blog site he says things like "if you don't see a girl here, email me because I probably have some info on her somewhere".
Don't forget there are a couple dozen guys who have drank his Kool Aid and are active contributors to the site. They are also feeding the monster.
Clinton Bush
11-28-08, 09:13
I think I will have to go a few arounds with one of these ladies just to find out if your on key. I know I have bounced around with one of them and she was fine. I give personal info PM style as I dont decorate the page with this and thats.
Christmas is right around the corner guys we might as well get us a hot little relief special. After listening to our SO complain about what I didnt do its nice to hear a woman just say yes once in awhile.. Ya Baby!
Sign me up -- fill up the gas tank and lets roll....
Gives new meaning to going to "service"
G Money Cool
11-28-08, 10:47
Apologies in advance to the readership for a long post, but I felt it would add to the public discourse on the pimpa loompa. I got an email from Josh, the TampaEscortReviewer. It appears all the bashing here really has him down in the dumps, and he felt the need to try to convince me that my sources of evidence against him weren't reliable. I won't post the mail here. For one it is lengthy, and more importantly it is littered with grammatical and spelling errors. This guy seems to read and write at about a 5th grade level. But I will give the hightlights.
First of all, one of the more interesting things wasn't what he said, but the email address he used. For some reason, he sent me the same message twice. Once from his "TampaEscortReviewer" account, but also from another one. TampaSexyGirls at gmail.com. Hmmm. For a guy who claims to be just a hobbyist who writes reviews, that sure does sound like an escort agency email.
Anyway, before I move on to the content, I need to provide a little background. One of the most compelling bits of evidence I got about Josh was in speaking to a girl he called Layla on his site. He wrote a glowing review of her, and then a week later moved her to the "No Longer Providing" section. I had written down her number, called her up, and she told me that Josh was mad she wouldn't pay him $50 for every $200 session she booked. He moved her to the NLP section and blocked all her CL ads. He even forced her to change her phone # by posting free car ads on CL and flooding her with calls. He effectively ran her out of the business after she had just started. Layla had saved a voice mail from Josh, where he ranted like a lunatic at how much she owed him for the business she got off his site, and how he was going to expose her to her family and even set her up on a LEO sting if she didn't pay up.
Mind you, this is before I was banned from his blog site, so I thought I'd see what his true colors were. I sent him an email and told him that Layla was still in the biz, so he should move her back to the Legit section. He emailed me back saying he talked to Layla and she didn't want her number advertised, so please respect her wishes. At that point, I knew without a doubt he was a liar and a scam. Case closed. That's the background.
So in his most recent email, he professes that the real reason he moved her to the NLP section is because she was addicted to prescription drugs, and he'll be damned if girls are going to use him and his site to book sessions to buy drugs. No, he'd rather help girls who use the money to feed their kids and pay their rent. Same goes for Torrie, another girl who suffered the same fate with him after receiving a glowing review. You see, Josh is an upstanding guy, so I can keep the druggies, and he's stick with his high class escorts. Something to that effect.
There were a few other things in the mail, but it was basically him comparing his circle of followers with the people who post on this board. My friends are cooler than your friends kind of stuff. So not particularly interesting.
Rather than reply to him by email, I thought I would reply here. It is obvious he reads this forum pretty frequently, and I'd like other providers to be able to see this as well.
Josh. If your intentions were to steer money away from the girls who use drugs, then why didn't you say so on your site? Why say they are out of the business? I'll tell you why. Because it has nothing to do with drug use. You were extorting them, and they refused to pay you. Yes, I know Layla's been busted mutliple times for drug possession. Many girls in this business use drugs. One of your top earners, Kandy, advertises on CL that she'll trade blowpoppers for "herb". The notion that you are some Robin Hood of the escort trade is not only a lie, it's more evidence that you suffer from some pretty serious delusions about your self worth.
All the bashing, that you love to whine about, is because you are dishonest, and using that dishonesty to discredit girls who don't give you what you want. Layla and Torrie aren't the only people I've talked to. I've spoken to several other girls who are on your site, and they've confirmed your MO. The fact that you trade tainted reviews for freebies is not even in dispute anymore.
So you can keep wasting your time sending me whiny emails begging me to stop bashing you, but I'll continue to post here so that local providers have the info they need to stay out of your web.
Clinton Bush
11-28-08, 12:18
Josh the pimpled faced pimp seems to be pretty skilled at living off the backs of others (literally), while sticking to them like a remora on a shark. I was just wondering if he was running any "Black Friday" specials on any of his girls.
Every so often (but not very often) a guy likes a woman dumber than dirt. I figure any girl who hooks for Josh won't get mistaken for a Mensa member.
NinaLatina
11-28-08, 13:46
Thank you for welcoming me to this site, I have been a lerker for some time now. I realize I've raised brows by responding to Mr. Smack. With that being said, I must clear the air as my reputation is in question.
Yes, I have been contacted by Josh months ago on several occasions. He actually called the shop phone for me. I refused his offer then and still do. I was advised by a friend that I now have a review on the site. Not anything I can personally do about that. It is what it is.
I do work at a shop, it is safe for me and others. The contradictory statement made by Smack, proves that he has never been a customer. The shop is always clean, never loud, and a pleasure to be at. And that is the complete truth!
At the end of the day, I AM a lady, not a hoe, in which I was referenced. I like my skill/tade/hobby/ whatever you prefer it called.
Thank you for your time as I am who I say I am, I am loyal to the cause and would never hurt anyone with words or actions.
Thanks,
Nina
Peter Rammer
11-28-08, 15:48
Josh the pimpled faced pimp seems to be pretty skilled at living off the backs of others (literally), while sticking to them like a remora on a shark. I was just wondering if he was running any "Black Friday" specials on any of his girls.
Every so often (but not very often) a guy likes a woman dumber than dirt. I figure any girl who hooks for Josh won't get mistaken for a Mensa member. If anyone on this board mingles with mensas. BEWARE! I'm absolutely certain Tampa BBW is a mensa moose. She's obviously extremely intelligent and likely a nerdaphile. That's the reason we ordinary fouks have so much trouble with her posts. She's a FFG. Fat F**kin' Genius! Don't let her tempt you with her charms. Fellas! LOL!
G Money Cool
11-28-08, 18:36
Thank you for welcoming me to this site, I have been a lerker for some time now. I realize I've raised brows by responding to Mr. Smack. With that being said, I must clear the air as my reputation is in question.
Yes, I have been contacted by Josh months ago on several occasions. He actually called the shop phone for me. I refused his offer then and still do. I was advised by a friend that I now have a review on the site. Not anything I can personally do about that. It is what it is.
I do work at a shop, it is safe for me and others. The contradictory statement made by Smack, proves that he has never been a customer. The shop is always clean, never loud, and a pleasure to be at. And that is the complete truth!
At the end of the day, I AM a lady, not a hoe, in which I was referenced. I like my skill/tade/hobby/ whatever you prefer it called.
Thank you for your time as I am who I say I am, I am loyal to the cause and would never hurt anyone with words or actions.
Thanks,
NinaYou are right, nothing you can do once you get on his site except stay alert and keep Josh at arms length. Take care of yourself, and keep it real for the benefit of all of us.
Greetings everyone,
Is any of this latest exchange in any way related to the topic of this thread?
"TampaReviewer / GFEReviewer's Scam"
Thanks,
Jackson
R Consultant
11-29-08, 10:38
I think Josh has his hands in all kinds of crap. I havent figured out which women he has on the take and which ones he doesnt. From what I have read he reviews alot of them and theres no way a bakery clerk is making that kind of money so with that in mind how else is he doing all these ladies except for free reviews??
Happy Hunting..
I know this isn't on the reviewer but maybe it does have some threads in it.
I have seen Nina and at her shop it was clean and the only thing I heard was the music in the background, but it was subtle.
Nina was very nice had the full course, she was not gfe butshe is definately worth the trip.
Great Expecta
11-30-08, 12:42
I normally haven't had a problem with Eros girls, but Desire (813-458-2810)played a cash and dash on me Friday. I may just have to stick with Eros girls that have a website, which 'may' add a little more credibility.
She looks very attractive I was tempted to meet her a while ago but I read very disturbing bad reviews about her.
J
I normally haven't had a problem with Eros girls, but Desire (813-458-2810)played a cash and dash on me Friday. I may just have to stick with Eros girls that have a website, which 'may' add a little more credibility.
SmackThatAss
11-30-08, 12:57
Isn't that the Heaven Lee that used got me a few years back. What do you guys think is it her? She might just be using a new name.
I normally haven't had a problem with Eros girls, but Desire (813-458-2810)played a cash and dash on me Friday. I may just have to stick with Eros girls that have a website, which 'may' add a little more credibility.
Apologies in advance to the readership for a long post, Thanks, as always sir, for an enlightening post.
Josh's site does provide a service. However unreliable his reports may be, as of this writing, all of his ladies are verified non-LEO. However that's really all I ever use the site for.
Once I saw the personal attacks (he wrote something like "so-and-so has herpes, so if you start to itch, you probably have herpes") it was pretty obvious the guy had a vendetta.
You can't make this many enemies and go on forever. I'd be surprised if his site is still up this time next year.
I normally haven't had a problem with Eros girls, but Desire (813-458-2810)played a cash and dash on me Friday. I may just have to stick with Eros girls that have a website, which 'may' add a little more credibility.
Google her telephone number (exact phrase) and it will return 398 hits. Maybe one of them will be enough information you to do something about it.
Clinton Bush
11-30-08, 15:52
Google her telephone number (exact phrase) and it will return 398 hits. Maybe one of them will be enough information you to do something about it.
A lot of these google hits bring back something about "pit bulls for sale".
Maybe her bf/pimp is Michael Vick and she is cashing and dashing to raise some money to feed his pit bulls while he is in prison. Though if she keeps on cashing and dashing she will be in women's prison soon enough herself.
Mechanic69
11-30-08, 20:44
A lot of these google hits bring back something about "pit bulls for sale".
Maybe her bf/pimp is Michael Vick and she is cashing and dashing to raise some money to feed his pit bulls while he is in prison. Though if she keeps on cashing and dashing she will be in women's prison soon enough herself.
Are you going to call the cops and report she took your money without giving you any pussy????? Good luck with that!!!!
Are you going to call the cops and report she took your money without giving you any pussy????? Good luck with that!!!!
Well, since technically you are only paying for her time, if she dashes prior to completing her end of the bargain (i.e. spending an hour with you) then you might have grounds for a civil complaint.
G Money Cool
12-01-08, 00:25
Thanks, as always sir, for an enlightening post.
Josh's site does provide a service. However unreliable his reports may be, as of this writing, all of his ladies are verified non-LEO. However that's really all I ever use the site for.
Once I saw the personal attacks (he wrote something like "so-and-so has herpes, so if you start to itch, you probably have herpes") it was pretty obvious the guy had a vendetta.
You can't make this many enemies and go on forever. I'd be surprised if his site is still up this time next year.At least one of his girls got caught up in the Halloween sting this year. Karmel/Karmela was one of his young talents. Of course, being the inexperienced pimp that he is, he hasn't bailed her out so she is still in lockup as far as I can tell. Might be possible for LEO to flip her and put her back on the street. Josh is a reasonably easy target for them, as his site leaves little room for doubt that he is actively promoting the girls (just notice all the "mention you saw her here for a $50 discount"). So maybe they use her to pop him, or maybe they use her to bag some unsuspecting Johns first. Anyway, be very careful if you see that girl start advertising again.
G Money Cool
12-01-08, 00:51
http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/warning_********************blog_warning_28/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1176270
Someone is taking out ads on both CL and now Backpage (see link) to warn people of the Legit Provider Scam. It is clearly making Josh's life much more difficult. If it weren't, he wouldn't continue to send me emails whining about the "bashing" that goes on here (yes, he saw my post here and emailed me yet AGAIN! ). I told him it isn't bashing, it's just a forum for people to discuss the truth. The more providers that know what to expect, the better. He's finding it harder and harder to find new girls to shake down. I've spoken to several new CL posters in the past few weeks, and given them the warning to steer clear of anyone asking if they want to be verified or reviewed.
To try to invigorate his "base", I hear he is planning a meet and greet for sometime right after the holidays. Yeah. That's a great idea. Get a bunch of escorts and guys who have visited them together. Especially when the details of their encounters have been well-chronicled on your blog. Pure genius.
G
Clinton Bush
12-01-08, 01:17
Well, since technically you are only paying for her time, if she dashes prior to completing her end of the bargain (i.e. spending an hour with you) then you might have grounds for a civil complaint.
somebody here had a great report awhile back. IIRC he had hired a girl who tried to upsell him after he had already paid for an hour . The girl indicated he would have to pay more to get any action. Well instead of coughing up extra dough our hero here (wish I would have thought of this) made the girl sit in the corner for the entire hour so he got his money's worth. She thought she had either the sure upsell or the quick $100 for 5 minutes because he didn't take the upsell deal. Whoever that was - that was GREAT!!!!
Mike Wazowski
12-01-08, 03:41
somebody here had a great report awhile back. IIRC he had hired a girl who tried to upsell him after he had already paid for an hour . The girl indicated he would have to pay more to get any action. Well instead of coughing up extra dough our hero here (wish I would have thought of this) made the girl sit in the corner for the entire hour so he got his money's worth. She thought she had either the sure upsell or the quick $100 for 5 minutes because he didn't take the upsell deal. Whoever that was - that was GREAT!!!!
Thank you, sir, that one was mine. Took place many years ago, when I first moved to the area. I was spending the night in Orlando, where I had an appointment in the morning and no desire to tackle the beginning of Tampa's rush hour and the end of Orlando's and hope to make it on time.
This would have been 1991, pre-internet boom. I called a service and the girl arrived. I asked her to join me on the bed and she said that it was "against the rules" but we could "go out to get breakfast or talk."
I chose a third option of "go sit in the corner."
So I don't know if she was looking for me to offer more money or if she was afraid I wasn't legit. For that matter she could have been a newbie who thought the agency was for real when they gave her a speil about not doing anything sexual on her "dates."
But she didn't try to upsell - if anything, I'd say she was looking for a cash and dash and that wasn't happening. If I wasn't going to have the fun I was hoping for when I made the call, I'd certainly have fun watching her fume in the corner for an hour!
The game, as I saw it happening, was get the money, say that nothing more than companionship is available, hoping to either get sent packing or get the guy to give more money, hoping for action and then hit the door.
R Consultant
12-01-08, 07:35
Sit in the corner for an hour!! LOL!! I can imagine what an Escort would think if she got dressed up to sit in a corner. Dam that takes balls.. But I like the idea if that is what she is trying to do is upsell. LOL!
Happy Hunting.
Thank you, sir, that one was mine. Took place many years ago, when I first moved to the area. I was spending the night in Orlando, where I had an appointment in the morning and no desire to tackle the beginning of Tampa's rush hour and the end of Orlando's and hope to make it on time.
This would have been 1991, pre-internet boom. I called a service and the girl arrived. I asked her to join me on the bed and she said that it was "against the rules" but we could "go out to get breakfast or talk."
I chose a third option of "go sit in the corner."
So I don't know if she was looking for me to offer more money or if she was afraid I wasn't legit. For that matter she could have been a newbie who thought the agency was for real when they gave her a speil about not doing anything sexual on her "dates."
But she didn't try to upsell - if anything, I'd say she was looking for a cash and dash and that wasn't happening. If I wasn't going to have the fun I was hoping for when I made the call, I'd certainly have fun watching her fume in the corner for an hour!
The game, as I saw it happening, was get the money, say that nothing more than companionship is available, hoping to either get sent packing or get the guy to give more money, hoping for action and then hit the door.
Greetings everyone,
Is any of this latest exchange in any way related to the topic of this thread?
"TampaReviewer / GFEReviewer's Scam"
Thanks,
Jackson
CaptainFlapja
12-06-08, 19:14
Josh's site does provide a service. However unreliable his reports may be, as of this writing, all of his ladies are verified non-LEO. However that's really all I ever use the site for.I'll agree with this sentiment.
I'm pretty sure that someone here also has a membership on the ning board. Would anyone care to keep us apprised of Josh's shenanigans?
Some 'verification' in line with the quoted statement about some of the new faces on CL might be nice too.
R Consultant
12-10-08, 02:41
I have actually read this guys site now. Does anyone really believe anything this punk has to say?
I think his blackmailing tactics have little to be desired and the way he goes about it is just wrong.
His audience is so small there's no way he could really affect anyone. Of course he would love to think he does. Its not like he even gets 1/4 of the traffic USA gets.
I just think he needs to known for the azzzz clown he his for what he does to these ladies and the BS tactics he uses to get free services.
Happy Hunting..
G Money Cool
12-10-08, 16:45
His retreat to the private message board means his "reach" is about 50 or so guys. He's gone through and tried to purge a lot of members, calling them lurkers, so it really isn't all that big of a community. I've seen what goes on there. Other than him porting his reviews over, there are a few girls posting pics (which you could see on their CL posts or websites), and some lame-ass chat that goes on at night. But hey, Josh is getting what he wants. He's the big turd in a little bowl.
Any girl who gives him a freebie or pays him to be a part of that site has to be completely off her rocker. There's no way the few dozen guys on that site are spending enough to sustain the 25 or so girls there. Just do the math. 25 girls, even it it's 100 guys and they do one session per week. That averages out to 4 sessions per girl. Can't imagine many would be satisfied with that. They still need other sources, so they will continue to be on CL and Backpage. And without his tainted, glowing reviews available to the public, guys will have to depend on truly legitimate sites (like this one) for info.
Clinton Bush
12-11-08, 01:24
Josh is getting what he wants. He's the big turd in a little bowl.
You pop it.
This guy has been angering lots of the girls and their friends. I have a feeling that this little zit is about to get popped.
Angeleyez727
12-11-08, 15:51
So. In response to my ad that I recently posted here (usasex) and on craigslist, titled "In Need Of REAL Reviews".
Josh calls me and says to me that "Since I am talking shit, now he is going to set me up".
RESPONSE TO JOSH:
Yeah Josh, you already left me a voice mail saying the same thing 5 months ago. If you don't want me saying shit about you then take me off of your site! I am not worried about your threats so stop calling me and leave me the fuck alone! If you think I have a bad attitude towards YOU! Then your right, I do! Stop trying to kick me out of the business like you have done to so many other girls! I'm not going Anywhere.
I went from a legit provider to a do not see provider all because I told the truth about the shit you have done to me and other females that I know of for sure. Everyone can see your full of shit.
G Money Cool
12-11-08, 18:25
So. In response to my ad that I recently posted here (usasex) and on craigslist, titled "In Need Of REAL Reviews".
Josh calls me and says to me that "Since I am talking shit, now he is going to set me up".
RESPONSE TO JOSH:
Yeah Josh, you already left me a voice mail saying the same thing 5 months ago. If you don't want me saying shit about you then take me off of your site! I am not worried about your threats so stop calling me and leave me the fuck alone! If you think I have a bad attitude towards YOU! Then your right, I do! Stop trying to kick me out of the business like you have done to so many other girls! I'm not going Anywhere.
I went from a legit provider to a do not see provider all because I told the truth about the shit you have done to me and other females that I know of for sure. Everyone can see your full of shit.Do you by any chance have a voice mail still from him? He loves to deny this kind of stuff - if you could get it into an MP3 or WAV file, I'd love to have it to blast out to all his message board members so they can see who they are really dealing with.
R Consultant
12-11-08, 19:17
When you say stuff like this:
"Stop trying to kick me out of the business like you have done to so many other girls! I'm not going Anywhere."
This clown isn't Tony Montana, or anything close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVKPzmR1gds&NR=1
If you honestly think a deli boy who spanks his meat and lives off a 10hr job if that is going to wreck your world I feel sorry for you. Tell the schmuck to go fly a kite and do your own thing. I just can't see being blackmailed by a little punk like that.
Wheres the logical thinking in this. I bet he is a real control freak.
Does anyone know Josh's real name?
Happy Hunting..
So. In response to my ad that I recently posted here (usasex) and on craigslist, titled "In Need Of REAL Reviews".
Josh calls me and says to me that "Since I am talking shit, now he is going to set me up".
RESPONSE TO JOSH:
Yeah Josh, you already left me a voice mail saying the same thing 5 months ago. If you don't want me saying shit about you then take me off of your site! I am not worried about your threats so stop calling me and leave me the fuck alone! If you think I have a bad attitude towards YOU! Then your right, I do! Stop trying to kick me out of the business like you have done to so many other girls! I'm not going Anywhere.
I went from a legit provider to a do not see provider all because I told the truth about the shit you have done to me and other females that I know of for sure. Everyone can see your full of shit.
MonicaExotica
12-11-08, 19:43
He is threatening You with turning You in? Bad idea little boy.
NOT COOL WHAT SO EVER
Hes already set off tampabbw and I'm honestly surprized that She didn't flip the script and play rough with Him.
Sooner or later Hes going to mess with someone old school and get a real old fashioned pimp smack down.
It was amuseing antics for a while, but a threat is not amuseing at all.
G Money Cool
12-15-08, 19:21
As I said in my earlier post, all Josh's best efforts to create his little hobbyist-escort utopia are going to be undone by simple economics. As he races to get more and more girls on the site, he's just spreading the sessions of a handful of guys around to more and more girls. Why would you jump through the hoops to get into that site, when you can see reviews on TER, and ad and pics on CL?
I received this from a source (the fact that I find out what goes on in your world must be killing you, eh Joshie-boy? ). Josh has been touting some out-of-towners, and apparently coaxed one to come into Tampa. She posted this to the board the other day:
"Today was a sign of things to come. At least for me that is. Alot of people from this site said they would come visit me when I got back into tampa, and I cut my trip short from Orlando and came here but only a few people called and asked if I was in tampa and when I said yes, never heard back from them. Hopefully tomorrow will be better, because after I leave, I won't be back in tampa for at least 2-3 months. "
Then when one of the members chimed in that her rate ($250) was above average, Josh swooped in and started arguing back that she was only a little above average and worth every penny.
Spoken like a guy who gets a cut of those extra pennies.
I visited his site when it was wide open. Now it isn't (fine with me) but I see silly girls listing that site as place they have been "reviewed." Doesn't do the girl much good if the site is not accessible. No knock on the girls, but they should smarten up (or maybe they should be knocked because they provided freebies???).
As I said in my earlier post, all Josh's best efforts to create his little hobbyist-escort utopia are going to be undone by simple economics. As he races to get more and more girls on the site, he's just spreading the sessions of a handful of guys around to more and more girls. Why would you jump through the hoops to get into that site, when you can see reviews on TER, and ad and pics on CL?
I received this from a source (the fact that I find out what goes on in your world must be killing you, eh Joshie-boy? ). Josh has been touting some out-of-towners, and apparently coaxed one to come into Tampa. She posted this to the board the other day:
"Today was a sign of things to come. At least for me that is. Alot of people from this site said they would come visit me when I got back into tampa, and I cut my trip short from Orlando and came here but only a few people called and asked if I was in tampa and when I said yes, never heard back from them. Hopefully tomorrow will be better, because after I leave, I won't be back in tampa for at least 2-3 months. "
Then when one of the members chimed in that her rate ($250) was above average, Josh swooped in and started arguing back that she was only a little above average and worth every penny.
Spoken like a guy who gets a cut of those extra pennies.
Member #6210
12-22-08, 21:12
When I first started getting involved with this, I found Josh's website. At first everything was okay but now that only those who have been verified can view the profiles of each woman, including contact information, I think it's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I hope his little pimp dreams come back to bite him in the ass.
G Money Cool
12-23-08, 17:38
When I first started getting involved with this, I found Josh's website. At first everything was okay but now that only those who have been verified can view the profiles of each woman, including contact information, I think it's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I hope his little pimp dreams come back to bite him in the ass.I completely agree. A closed off message board is a goofy idea. I don't know how much time you spent on there before you got booted, but I've seen enough to know it's a joke. Other than the same reviews he had on the other board, the only other thing is some gay-ass chat that goes on in the evenings. I saw one guy trying to ask girls to go out for coffee with him. One of them asked "OK, did you want to 'play' also", and his reply was no, he just wanted someone to go have coffee with. Awwwww, so sweet.
And I noticed they've embraced the tall redhead in Carrollwood, who has very shaky reviews. Her explanation of her negative reviews was "I'm new to this and there are still a lot of things I'm not comfortable doing". OK, but a review is an accurate rating of the experience. You aren't going to get rave reviews for a shitty session just because you are still learning the ropes. Josh pumps up girls' reviews because they give him a freebie or a cut of their take or they agree to agree to be his friend and chat on his message board. Girls who tell him they don't want his review get labelled a ripoff or a "YMMV" girl. You just can't trust that site.
I say you are better off going with public forum reviews, as opposed to his engineered crap. Note my review of Brianna in the other CL reviews forum. I picked one off his ripoff list and she turned out to be a great find.
R Consultant
12-24-08, 10:40
When your a low-life like Josh you will do anything to control the girls. He does all that so he has control of everything. If you wrote something bad about the girl hes pounding hes going to erase it. Its a waste of time to read the site or patronage those girls as he is going to control what is said.
Happy Hunting..
When I first started getting involved with this, I found Josh's website. At first everything was okay but now that only those who have been verified can view the profiles of each woman, including contact information, I think it's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I hope his little pimp dreams come back to bite him in the ass.
Chase Star
12-24-08, 11:05
....
And I noticed they've embraced the tall redhead in Carrollwood, who has very shaky reviews. Her explanation of her negative reviews was "I'm new to this and there are still a lot of things I'm not comfortable doing". ...That's interesting since she has reviews on TER going back at least to March 2007. Exactly how long does it take before you're no longer considered new? And how long does it take to feel comfortable doing things that you'll ever feel comfortable doing? If she's at all new it is because she was out of the business for a while due to a pregnancy. Her last couple of reviews on TER were "4 - She just laid there". Prior to that, she had some decent reviews on TER, but that really takes NO talent on a site where the average review is an 8 (I did an actual analysis of that once and that was in fact the average of all the reviews in the Tampa area for one month). She also has a "2 - I should have stayed home" and a "3 - Barely worth the effort", which DOES take some talent (of a different type) for that site. If this gal is one of the "stars" of that site and so heavily recommended, what does that say about any of the other providers who have been "verified" and recommended there. I would not believe ANY of their recommendations.
As for the supposed rip-offs, I've been with Brianna and while I wouldn't necessarily describe as the greatest provider I've ever been with (I'm extremely picky and most providers I've found I'd consider just okay), she was not an actual "rip-off". She provides BBBJ, FS and everything that she advertises even if she does not provide all the things that you might be HOPING for (multiple cups, GFE, a pristine incall location, etc.). That might not make her a "repeat" for some, but it does NOT make her a rip-off. Whatever you may think about the QUALITY of her services, she was NOT cash and dash, bait and switch or upseller and therefore NOT an actual rip-off. I'm certain her being cast as a rip-off on the TEV blog has much more to do with her refusing to go along with his freebie extortion practices.
G Money Cool
12-24-08, 11:35
When I first started getting involved with this, I found Josh's website. At first everything was okay but now that only those who have been verified can view the profiles of each woman, including contact information, I think it's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I hope his little pimp dreams come back to bite him in the ass.Honestly, some of the crap that gets uploaded on that message board just makes you wonder. Who in the hell thought these were good pics? If you are going to promote yourself, put your best pics forward. Accentuate the good features, and de-emphasize the not so good. At the very least, have your fucking eyes open. Or pony up and pay a professional photographer. Many of the pics taken by Josh himself make me wonder if he isn't half blind.
Enjoy
Angeleyez727
12-24-08, 13:14
That's interesting since she has reviews on TER going back at least to March 2007. Exactly how long does it take before you're no longer considered new? And how long does it take to feel comfortable doing things that you'll ever feel comfortable doing? If she's at all new it is because she was out of the business for a while due to a pregnancy. Her last couple of reviews on TER were "4 - She just laid there". Prior to that, she had some decent reviews on TER, but that really takes NO talent on a site where the average review is an 8 (I did an actual analysis of that once and that was in fact the average of all the reviews in the Tampa area for one month). She also has a "2 - I should have stayed home" and a "3 - Barely worth the effort", which DOES take some talent (of a different type) for that site. If this gal is one of the "stars" of that site and so heavily recommended, what does that say about any of the other providers who have been "verified" and recommended there. I would not believe ANY of their recommendations.
As for the supposed rip-offs, I've been with Brianna and while I wouldn't necessarily describe as the greatest provider I've ever been with (I'm extremely picky and most providers I've found I'd consider just okay), she was not an actual "rip-off". She provides BBBJ, FS and everything that she advertises even if she does not provide all the things that you might be HOPING for (multiple cups, GFE, a pristine incall location, etc.). That might not make her a "repeat" for some, but it does NOT make her a rip-off. Whatever you may think about the QUALITY of her services, she was NOT cash and dash, bait and switch or upseller and therefore NOT an actual rip-off. I'm certain her being cast as a rip-off on the TEV blog has much more to do with her refusing to go along with his freebie extortion practices.Whats even more interesting is a few weeks ago I was browsing CL and was looking in the Free section when I came accross a ad for a free printer that looked way to good to be true. I read the ad and it was something along the lines of "I just bought a new printer that does everything, I have no use for this one anymore. Its only a year old. Call Annette at. " And her number was in the ad as well.
Later on that day I was looking in the W4W section and noticed that there was a ad from someone saying they were 6'4, redhead and their name was Annette and they were looking for a hook up.
Well it was all so familiar, considering my phone was swamped with calls for about a month after Josh put my phone number and name in the Free section of CL in several different cities and states. He claimed in some ads I was giving away a free laptop, dell desktop, jet skis, green chevy cavalier (which is what he is rumored to be driving around in), and alot of other crazy things.
He also did this to my sister and admitted to me he had done it to a girl who was going by the name "Monica" when she wanted to "play games with him".
So I called Annette and asked her had she heard from someone recently that said he was a reviewer for a site. She told me, "Yes, he told her his name was Josh". I asked her if he asked her for a freebie in exchange for a "good review" and she said he did and she told him no. I told her about him and his scam and what he had done to me and a few others and about a week after I spoke to her, she started posting as verified.
But I also noticed that he started going after her shortly after some guys were talking about her here on this board.
Trendz Tampa
12-24-08, 14:26
Hardly. She was one of the girls back at Aquarius Video and that was way back in the day. I tried having a session with her and I really mean tried. I think I was more focused on the cracks on the wall.
That's interesting since she has reviews on TER going back at least to March 2007. Exactly how long does it take before you're no longer considered new? And how long does it take to feel comfortable doing things that you'll ever feel comfortable doing? If she's at all new it is because she was out of the business for a while due to a pregnancy. Her last couple of reviews on TER were "4 - She just laid there". Prior to that, she had some decent reviews on TER, but that really takes NO talent on a site where the average review is an 8 (I did an actual analysis of that once and that was in fact the average of all the reviews in the Tampa area for one month). She also has a "2 - I should have stayed home" and a "3 - Barely worth the effort", which DOES take some talent (of a different type) for that site. If this gal is one of the "stars" of that site and so heavily recommended, what does that say about any of the other providers who have been "verified" and recommended there. I would not believe ANY of their recommendations.
As for the supposed rip-offs, I've been with Brianna and while I wouldn't necessarily describe as the greatest provider I've ever been with (I'm extremely picky and most providers I've found I'd consider just okay), she was not an actual "rip-off". She provides BBBJ, FS and everything that she advertises even if she does not provide all the things that you might be HOPING for (multiple cups, GFE, a pristine incall location, etc.). That might not make her a "repeat" for some, but it does NOT make her a rip-off. Whatever you may think about the QUALITY of her services, she was NOT cash and dash, bait and switch or upseller and therefore NOT an actual rip-off. I'm certain her being cast as a rip-off on the TEV blog has much more to do with her refusing to go along with his freebie extortion practices.
R Consultant
12-24-08, 21:05
Do you guys & girls notice this guy never ever stops. I think he is a real live pimp. LOL! I really don't think hes ever going to get bigboy status.
Did you ever get your printer?
Happy Hunting..
Whats even more interesting is a few weeks ago I was browsing CL and was looking in the Free section when I came accross a ad for a free printer that looked way to good to be true. I read the ad and it was something along the lines of "I just bought a new printer that does everything, I have no use for this one anymore. Its only a year old. Call Annette at. " And her number was in the ad as well.
Later on that day I was looking in the W4W section and noticed that there was a ad from someone saying they were 6'4, redhead and their name was Annette and they were looking for a hook up.
Well it was all so familiar, considering my phone was swamped with calls for about a month after Josh put my phone number and name in the Free section of CL in several different cities and states. He claimed in some ads I was giving away a free laptop, dell desktop, jet skis, green chevy cavalier (which is what he is rumored to be driving around in), and alot of other crazy things.
He also did this to my sister and admitted to me he had done it to a girl who was going by the name "Monica" when she wanted to "play games with him".
So I called Annette and asked her had she heard from someone recently that said he was a reviewer for a site. She told me, "Yes, he told her his name was Josh". I asked her if he asked her for a freebie in exchange for a "good review" and she said he did and she told him no. I told her about him and his scam and what he had done to me and a few others and about a week after I spoke to her, she started posting as verified.
But I also noticed that he started going after her shortly after some guys were talking about her here on this board.
G Money Cool
12-29-08, 14:12
She wasn't labeled as a ripoff. He placed her in a collective section that contains rip-offs, cash and dash, bait and switch, fake pictures, etc. Every girl in that section is labeled as either one or more of those titles.
He labeled her as having fake pictures, because if you click on the link provided, you can visit the site she linked them from and tell that they are not hers; however, the girl may not be a rip-off. She may be 100% legit, but if anyone is to choose to go and see her (like yourself), they'd be taking a chance at their own risk (like yourself).
Fortunately for you, your experience turned out to be a positive one :-)This was in the Craigslist Reviews section, but it belongs here. Not sure who wildman010 is; he appears to be a new poster.
The section on his site that you speak of is titled "Ripoff Providers". He may go on to further clarify why he labels them ripoffs. But read that heading. It should be titled "Women who won't play Josh's game". He's got the Tampa BBW labelled as the Queen of Ripoffs. For all the things that can be said about her, I've never heard about her actually ripping people off. Same for Miss Lady, who has reviews here as well as TER.
What happens is this. Josh attempts to get a freebie from someone, and they tell him to fuck off. He labels them a ripoff, unless they've already gotten some reviews somewhere. In which case he just labels them Not Recommended. He sprinkles in a few well-documented ripoffs to make it seem legit. But it is effectively his penalty box.
Trust me, he has no aversion to girls using fake pics. Remember the phony review he wrote on Carmen, where he wouldn't even provide a phone number? He took it down when someone spotted her pics in a Portland CL ad. Or the fact that he staunchly defended Kristy/Amanda Luv for months, claiming that he verified their pics via a webcam. He only recanted that when Tampa Tori posted her real pics in an Amanda Luv ad one day and it just became undeniable.
If you are one of those who believes that Josh is a principled, reliable source of information, you should do some more research or watch the blog for longer. See if you can figure out why Jennifer Deepthroat, for example, was public enemy number one on his blog for a while (he had her booking photos and arrest records posted), but now is a featured member of his Ning site. There are numerous other discrepancies of girls with mixed reviews. Some get tossed into "Not Recommended" and others are featured. What do you think the difference is? You guessed it. They give Josh what he wants.
I would venture to guess that the girl he is most obsessed with as a ripoff, Amanda Dyer, would probably even be able to get a glowing review if she gave him a freebie and a few bucks. That's the way the scam works. Go google Charles Kelly or Dave Elms if you want more info on how his story will play out.
G Money Cool
12-29-08, 22:35
Hello all,
This is Scarlett and I'm new to this board but have been around since 2003 in this biz. I pride myself on having good reviews and providing quality to everyone I meet. I was approached by Josh to place me on his blog spot to get more business. I did agree to exchange a session for an "HONEST" review. I made no deals to barter for a GOOD review and he has never approached me to extort money and he has always been a gentleman to me.
Now there seems to be this feud going with Josh and TampaBBW and I'm sick of being caught in the middle of it. Whenever I post an ad on CL, it's flagged within 1 minute. I have no reason to suspect Josh and I am in good standing on his blog. Hmmmmm, wonder who it could be? Well whoever, you are, I've reported this to CL for harrassment. I haven't done anything wrong, I haven't tried to hurt anyone and I don't deserve this. Leave me out of your childish escapades.
I have 2 kids to feed and this isn't funny anymore. Leave me the hell alone!
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Hi Scarlett Love,
Why don't you just promote yourself on this site?
I guarantee that your advertisements won't get flagged, and as a bonus you won't have to "service" Tampa Reviewer in exchange for his agreeing not to trash your reputation.
Think about it.
Thanks,
JacksonJosh is so insecure, he keeps sending me emails, practically crying about me bashing him here. It really bothers him. He thinks we should all join forces with him for whatever his ultimate goal is (unknown at this point).
When I asked him what he thought about Scarlett's admission that she gave him a freebie, here's what he said:
"scrletts words were twisted around. No one even bothered to get her explaination to that part. She meant I contacted her and asked if she would be interested in getting put on the site, to get her approval ahead of time (sorry but unlike some people, I want the girl to know shes going to be reviewed and how much of the review she cares to have seen in public on a site) to know I would be seeing her not to give me a freebie. I told her I would show up like a regular client and write an honest review and let her know it was me after the session. But like I said. Non of you people even bothered to ask her if what she was implying was a freebie. That's why she got pissed at that board and left it and she has no regreats about it. "
Sorry for the spelling errors. That's actually one of his better ones. He really does seem to read and write at a 5th grade level.
So there you have it. When Scarlett said "exchange a session for a review", she really meant "a pre-advised but completely paid-for session which would result in a review. " Joshie the bologna pimp is truly legit. Spank my ass and call me Charlie. We were wrong all along. Makes you go "Hmmmm".
Wildman010
12-31-08, 17:33
This was in the Craigslist Reviews section, but it belongs here. Not sure who wildman010 is; he appears to be a new poster.
The section on his site that you speak of is titled "Ripoff Providers". He may go on to further clarify why he labels them ripoffs. But read that heading. It should be titled "Women who won't play Josh's game". He's got the Tampa BBW labelled as the Queen of Ripoffs. For all the things that can be said about her, I've never heard about her actually ripping people off. Same for Miss Lady, who has reviews here as well as TER.
What happens is this. Josh attempts to get a freebie from someone, and they tell him to fuck off. He labels them a ripoff, unless they've already gotten some reviews somewhere. In which case he just labels them Not Recommended. He sprinkles in a few well-documented ripoffs to make it seem legit. But it is effectively his penalty box.
Trust me, he has no aversion to girls using fake pics. Remember the phony review he wrote on Carmen, where he wouldn't even provide a phone number? He took it down when someone spotted her pics in a Portland CL ad. Or the fact that he staunchly defended Kristy/Amanda Luv for months, claiming that he verified their pics via a webcam. He only recanted that when Tampa Tori posted her real pics in an Amanda Luv ad one day and it just became undeniable.
If you are one of those who believes that Josh is a principled, reliable source of information, you should do some more research or watch the blog for longer. See if you can figure out why Jennifer Deepthroat, for example, was public enemy number one on his blog for a while (he had her booking photos and arrest records posted), but now is a featured member of his Ning site. There are numerous other discrepancies of girls with mixed reviews. Some get tossed into "Not Recommended" and others are featured. What do you think the difference is? You guessed it. They give Josh what he wants.
I would venture to guess that the girl he is most obsessed with as a ripoff, Amanda Dyer, would probably even be able to get a glowing review if she gave him a freebie and a few bucks. That's the way the scam works. Go google Charles Kelly or Dave Elms if you want more info on how his story will play out.G Money,
I feel you dude. I know what the story behind his claim to fame is from the things I've read all over this board. I mentioned this in another post in a different section, but it's like I said, I've been watching his blog, and these posts for awhile now.
I remember the review he wrote on Carmen with no phone number listed. I remember his rant on Amanda Dyer, I remember when that whole situation occurred with Jennifer Deepthroat and her dude Tom, where supposedly he and Josh cleared all that non-sense up (that was according to what he wrote, I myself don't know what really happened with that). I remember when he had April as the Queen of Flagging, I remember the BBW issue with Tammy Toole and Angel Eyez, and I definitely remember the Amanda Luv/Tampa Tori/Reisa/Blah blah blah whatever they want to call themselves situation as well.
So for me, it's like this. I'm not going to say that Josh is a reliable source of information, nor will I say that he's an unreliable source of information. I think I've mentioned this before also, but I myself have had encounters with women from his site that were "verified" and they all turned out positive. Unfortunately for Josh, that doesn't mean a person like myself is going to believe every word he writes on a blog or a message board. To me, I don't care if your name is Josh, John, Jenn Deepthroat, Amanda Dyer, or MyMustang. I just don't buy fully into what any person tells me until I can experience it or have proof for myself that it's 100% true.
The only way I'll ever buy fully into what I hear from anyone is if your name is God, you have named Jesus Christ, and a virgin wife named Mary.
And if everyone really sat down and thought about something, we'd all realize that Josh is only getting everything he's getting because these providers keep giving it to him. Maybe if these providers stop "exchanging freebies for reviews" he wouldn't be so damn popular. Because, hell if I call up a provider and offer her a review for a freebie and she consents, guess what? I'm taking that freebie, then giving her a review, and after that everyone else should feel free to hate to me because I got some nookie for free, and you have to pay! And if you're a hobbyist that's reading this and you say you'd turn down a freebie from a hot provider, then you need to put the drugs down because it's killing too many of your brain cells.
Now, if that's not what the problem with Josh is, the problem must be that he's bashing providers who won't give him what he wants. In which case I say, so what? If he's such a non-creditable source of information why would we believe anything he writes anyway? If he's non-creditable, then we don't believe that his providers are verified, we don't believe that his rip-off providers are rip-offs, we don't believe that he's truly paying these girls to review them, and we don't believe anything he writes, AT ALL!
So, if we don't believe him, and he says a girl is a rip-off when she's not then, .
Who cares? We don't believe him!
G Money Cool
01-30-09, 14:58
i was hoping to let this thread die in the new year. there really is not much more to be said about his tactics. and he's had to staunchly profess that he does not ask for freebies, to the point that i suspect he may not be able to work that scam anymore.
then today i ran across this on his new message board. he appears to be using the sting as an opportunity to disparage other forums. see his note below specifically about this board.
notice he doesn't tell the girls to have their ter reviews taken down. and why would he. he fancies himself a mini dave elms or charles kelly.
anyway, thought you would get a kick out of it.
3 ladies were visited by federal agents in their hotel room last night but because they had followed the book and did nothing to incriminate themselves even though the agents tried to strong arm them they held their ground and because they knew what they were doing and the agent once they knew they had escorting licenses, turned their attention on asking them questions about any girls that are **** they know about and any pimp that might be employing them, but because they didn't, the agents ended up leaving them alone and moving on in their search for **** girls.
ladies..get that damn license. its only 27 dollars and it covers you and up to 5 other girls. they also questioned them about why they were on usa sex guide and about their reviews on there they had recently gotten and showed them off printed copies of the reviews. ladies. i highly suggest you contact that site and have your reviews moved, deleted or something, but that's completly your choice...do as you wish..i can only warn you ladies so much that they have downloaded, archieved and printed off everything from that site in the last 2 months, on escorts, massage parlors, strip clubs, etc.
Long time lurker, 1st time poster.
Not one to gloat over another entrepreneur's misfortunes, it seems like "Josh" has encountered a roadblock in his corner of the world. Without going into detail, his exclusive review site - ********************.ning.com, may have run afoul of NING's policy, placed under the guise of technical difficulties.
Accordingly, ********.com also has a similar policy.
If so, their may be an high influx of new ads in backpage, craigslist, and USG; probably other ad venues. What's ironic are those that proudly displayed the prominent "verified by 'Tampa Escorts Verified'" logo or text will not have any of their positive reviews accessible by the general public; not that they ever did. In effect, "it's not worth a plugged nickle".
My point is that if they need reviews, there's a more than willing population ready to assist them... ;-)
No TARP funding needed - unless you've already have more than one bad review by a "verifiable/validated" member of any review site or fictional writer's forum.
Chase Star
02-20-09, 13:14
Why don't you take your inane and senseless drivel someplace else? You're just a waste of bandwidth. No one around here really gives a fuck about you OR Josh-the-wannabe-pimp OR the dispute between the two of you. You've BOTH become completely irrelevant. Now go sell crazy at the Publix bakery counter, cuz no one here is buying any more.
Peter Rammer
02-22-09, 10:05
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Jessiwantsu
02-26-09, 15:02
Hi I just wanted to ad my two cents this guy is a joke for real ladies and gentlemen please stop believing this kid I have info that proves him to be just some nerdy guy with a free ning network who harress girls telling them his review is everything ladies it saddens me to know that you beleive this jerk off kid ladies get smart no offense guys but in this buisness you ladies should know better then to trust a guy makig the claims this kid is making! Please pt an end to this kid and the drama he brings! I my self am sick of him! Thanks! Abby!
Member #4558
02-27-09, 23:45
Hi I just wanted to ad my two cents this guy is a joke for real ladies and gentlemen please stop believing this kid I have info that proves him to be just some nerdy guy with a free ning network who harress girls telling them his review is everything ladies it saddens me to know that you beleive this jerk off kid ladies get smart no offense guys but in this buisness you ladies should know better then to trust a guy makig the claims this kid is making! Please pt an end to this kid and the drama he brings! I my self am sick of him! Thanks! Abby!
Here's word for you...
Punctuation!
Please learn how to write more better before you post anything else!
G Money Cool
04-14-09, 20:12
Unfortunately the Sperminator is no longer around to bemoan this thread. And there has been reduced chatter here, because it appears Josh has been sufficiently chased into a corner. But when a nugget comes my way, I feel the need to share. This could very well be my last post to this thread, as I don't know what could top this.
This info was sent to me, and I believe it to be accurate. Josh's real name is apparently (drumroll) Muhanned Hasan. Attached is a pic, from a booking on the charge of (drumroll again) purse snatching. The other pic is one he supposedly posted on one of his private sites. It's kinda small, but when you look at it, it's the same guy. I'm sure he'll have no problem with this, as he loves to post booking photos and people's real names on his blog.
The info came by way of the TampaBBW and another guy who did some digging. Regardless of what we think of her drivel here, she has been passionate about chasing this guy down. So now, it appears, Josh himself has finally been "verified". This one goes out to all the ladies who have been harassed.
As the late Paul Harvey would have said: and now you know the rest of the story. Good day.
Got too love this one...... lol
Here's ...
Punctuation! more better!
Please learned how to use proper punctuation in your posting.
Sorry I'm just not feeling more better
The Lovemuscle
04-15-09, 22:49
Unfortunately the Sperminator is no longer around to bemoan this thread. And there has been reduced chatter here, because it appears Josh has been sufficiently chased into a corner. But when a nugget comes my way, I feel the need to share. This could very well be my last post to this thread, as I don't know what could top this.
This info was sent to me, and I believe it to be accurate. Josh's real name is apparently (drumroll) Muhanned Hasan. Attached is a pic, from a booking on the charge of (drumroll again) purse snatching. The other pic is one he supposedly posted on one of his private sites. It's kinda small, but when you look at it, it's the same guy. I'm sure he'll have no problem with this, as he loves to post booking photos and people's real names on his blog.
The info came by way of the TampaBBW and another guy who did some digging. Regardless of what we think of her drivel here, she has been passionate about chasing this guy down. So now, it appears, Josh himself has finally been "verified". This one goes out to all the ladies who have been harassed.
As the late Paul Harvey would have said: and now you know the rest of the story. Good day.Looks like the perfect time to close out this thread.
A happy ending if I ever saw one.
LM
R Consultant
04-16-09, 08:07
Close it and be done with the whole big mess....
Looks like the perfect time to close out this thread.
A happy ending if I ever saw one.
LM
G Money Cool
04-22-09, 10:23
His site is growing. Now he's charging girls to advertise on it. $20.00 per month.
I don't care if he got free or making money. Good for him.
I just don't like if the provider says no, he gives them a bad review.
Hell a LOT of providers are on it, even the shop on Park Blvd.
The owner of the shop reads this board. Right L.E.?http://www.websiteoutlook.com/
If you use this tool which tracks web traffic and per-view ad revenue, it says Muhanned's site gets 179 page views per day, generating $. 54 in daily revenue. Which means by the end of the week, he will have made enough to buy a small coffee at Starbucks. This obviously doesn't include the $20 he charges girls for ads via paypal, just the banner ads he has.
Contrast that with this site:
http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.usasexguide.info
37,479 page views per day
The moral of the story: if girls are paying $20 per month to advertise on that site, they aren't getting much for the money. You are better off posting here. See if he can keep the dream alive on 54 cents per day.
"He works hard for the money. So hard for it honey. He works hard for the money so you better treat him right!"
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