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Hairball
08-20-08, 18:38
Post #200 and I wanted to pass this milestone with something a little different. Should this be a dumb idea please say so and I will drop into the abis of rejection, delete this thread, and go bang my wife.
First of all I want to admit, yes I am a rat bastard for cheating on my SO.

Knowing getting caught would be a really big deal have devised some safety tips I would like to pass along and hopefully you guys/girls (some of our favorite providers are married as well) will add tips as well. This has worked well in the past with many great reports on how to avoid Mr. Leo.

1. First is all other safety tips in general are more important than ever. Get caught in a sting and it is not just a minor law infraction when this news makes it's way through your family.

2. My SO can smell better than a Blood Hound. 6 hours after a visit with a Provider she can smell it. A trip to my favorite oil us up Massage place is a sure "When did you start using baby oil" question. You get the picture it is not as obvious as lip stick on the collar but still a question you do know know how to answer. In an emergency I have stopped at the gas station and spilled gas on me for cover. Keep fresh clothes stashed and never leave a stain. Wash the family clothes once in a while so when you head for the washing mashine it is not a shock. Plus you get extra points for helping around the house.

3. Try to never lie. If what you are saying is not true your SO can probably tell. Have a good reason to be on SOBT if that is where you are. There is a Home Depot there for example and I would really go there and come back with the store bag. We do not get to just jump in the car and go cruising, it has to all be part of a safe plan.

4. Hobbies (along with mongering) can be great escapes and covers. Fishing works for me but lots of other Hobbies can work as well. I think my next Hobbie may be Bird Watching. To boring for everyone else but takes me where ever I want to go.

I will add more as I think of them and hope you will too. HB

Torlando
08-20-08, 20:13
HB,

Nice post, just be sure not to light a cigarette after you spill a little gas on yourself. The things we do, unbelievable. I wouldn't know where to begin if I ever got caught. I don't even want to think about it.

Tinaa
08-21-08, 06:24
Guys make sure to tell your provider if she's an escort or CL girl that way she can either skip the perfume or use a lighter fragerance. I personally have done that for a client. I appreciate married guys and know that's good to blow off some steam. Also do NOT feel like a rat bastard! It's much less personal to come see a provider than to have an actual affair where there is deep feelings involved!

Gentleman 100
08-21-08, 06:50
I like this thread.

I purposely keep to AMP-type places (for now) because they usually have a shower and the girls are not wearing perfume.

If I ever choose to go to a in-call private contractor, I would find a way to take a shower afterwards (even if it means checking in to a cheap hotel for the shower. In Florida heat, your hair will probablly be dry before you get home.

If I think of anything else, I will also post here. Be safe and have fun.

Hairball
08-21-08, 07:55
Post #200 and I wanted to pass this milestone with something a little different. Should this be a dumb idea please say so and I will drop into the abis of rejection, delete this thread, and go bang my wife.
First of all I want to admit, yes I am a rat bastard for cheating on my SO.

Knowing getting caught would be a really big deal have devised some safety tips I would like to pass along and hopefully you guys/girls (some of our favorite providers are married as well) will add tips as well. This has worked well in the past with many great reports on how to avoid Mr. Leo.

1. First is all other safety tips in general are more important than ever. Get caught in a sting and it is not just a minor law infraction when this news makes it's way through your family.

2. My SO can smell better than a Blood Hound. 6 hours after a visit with a Provider she can smell it. A trip to my favorite oil us up Massage place is a sure "When did you start using baby oil" question. You get the picture it is not as obvious as lip stick on the collar but still a question you do know know how to answer. In an emergency I have stopped at the gas station and spilled gas on me for cover. Keep fresh clothes stashed and never leave a stain. Wash the family clothes once in a while so when you head for the washing mashine it is not a shock. Plus you get extra points for helping around the house.

3. Try to never lie. If what you are saying is not true your SO can probably tell. Have a good reason to be on SOBT if that is where you are. There is a Home Depot there for example and I would really go there and come back with the store bag. We do not get to just jump in the car and go cruising, it has to all be part of a safe plan.

4. Hobbies (along with mongering) can be great escapes and covers. Fishing works for me but lots of other Hobbies can work as well. I think my next Hobbie may be Bird Watching. To boring for everyone else but takes me where ever I want to go.

I will add more as I think of them and hope you will too. HB

5. The monger mobile. The SO wanted to know why I was so interested in a bench seat when I bought my truck. I was a little woried at first since our first acts of passion as teens were in such a seat. Thankfully I had a valid reason. Never go home without a good inspection of the monger mobile. I now have a jewelry collection I am saving till enough for a pawn shop visit, of coarse to fund PFP. Also have found crack pipes and even money. Again with the smell, have some ozone spray and keep air fresheners there at all times.

Malabar
08-21-08, 09:31
I will add more as I think of them and hope you will too. HB

How about just not playing? Robin Williams: Divorce: Latin for ripping a man's genitals out through his wallet.

If you're gonna run jump and play, just get divorced and get it over with. Hopefully, you'll get off cheaper.

Mal

Jay7005
08-21-08, 09:44
[QUOTE=Hairball]Post #200

I will add more as I think of them and hope you will too.

Gasoline: I laughed out loud on the gasoline. Have done the same myself. Gas overpowers any smell and is easy to explain.

Showers: if you are a member of a local gym or YMCA, its a great place to shower off without attracting too much attention.

MPs: I have had great experiences asking for the TS at the end to wash away any smell of lotion. One massage studio in WP has private showers but the local talent is unique. Not for everyone.

Cars: keep the car clean at all times. Easier to spot something left behind.

Thats all for now. Be careful!

Jay

Cassberry
08-21-08, 09:53
There is a show on Showtime called Confessions of a call girl. In the first show she went over things a good provider does to protect the client. Water proof makeup does not come off as easy. Mens Deodorant. No striper glitter. These are simple things that would be something to talk to a regular about. If you are SWing you are on your own with whatever jumps in the car.

Retired Gfe
08-21-08, 12:27
Good post BTW HB!

Make sure you delete your emails, clean your cache, delete your cell phone. Check for hair or make-up before you leave. Shower if need be. I often offer this. Carry around baby wipes and your favorite cologne. Trust me, us ladies want you to stay safe too.


5. The monger mobile. The SO wanted to know why I was so interested in a bench seat when I bought my truck. I was a little woried at first since our first acts of passion as teens were in such a seat. Thankfully I had a valid reason. Never go home without a good inspection of the monger mobile. I now have a jewelry collection I am saving till enough for a pawn shop visit, of coarse to fund PFP. Also have found crack pipes and even money. Again with the smell, have some ozone spray and keep air fresheners there at all times.

Vertrag
08-21-08, 13:40
Knowing getting caught would be a really big deal have devised some safety tips I would like to pass along and hopefully you guys/girls (some of our favorite providers are married as well) will add tips as well. This has worked well in the past with many great reports on how to avoid Mr. Leo.

1. First is all other safety tips in general are more important than ever. Get caught in a sting and it is not just a minor law infraction when this news makes it's way through your family.

2. My SO can smell better than a Blood Hound. 6 hours after a visit with a Provider she can smell it. A trip to my favorite oil us up Massage place is a sure "When did you start using baby oil" question. You get the picture it is not as obvious as lip stick on the collar but still a question you do know know how to answer. In an emergency I have stopped at the gas station and spilled gas on me for cover. Keep fresh clothes stashed and never leave a stain. Wash the family clothes once in a while so when you head for the washing mashine it is not a shock. Plus you get extra points for helping around the house.

3. Try to never lie. If what you are saying is not true your SO can probably tell. Have a good reason to be on SOBT if that is where you are. There is a Home Depot there for example and I would really go there and come back with the store bag. We do not get to just jump in the car and go cruising, it has to all be part of a safe plan.

4. Hobbies (along with mongering) can be great escapes and covers. Fishing works for me but lots of other Hobbies can work as well. I think my next Hobbie may be Bird Watching. To boring for everyone else but takes me where ever I want to go.

5. The monger mobile. The SO wanted to know why I was so interested in a bench seat when I bought my truck. I was a little woried at first since our first acts of passion as teens were in such a seat. Thankfully I had a valid reason. Never go home without a good inspection of the monger mobile. I now have a jewelry collection I am saving till enough for a pawn shop visit, of coarse to fund PFP. Also have found crack pipes and even money. Again with the smell, have some ozone spray and keep air fresheners there at all times.6. Monger Phone. Have a phone that you have purchased with cash and only fill with minutes bought with cash - and never use a discount card or store card when making the purchase.

7. Consider a storage unit. Six months can be paid for the cost of one CL visit. Advantages - you can store freshener, clothes, Tide, your monger phone, a bag with toiletries, anything that might be embarassing to have in your car when the family goes on an outing - and it is safer to launder smelly clothes at lunch rather than at home. (This is especially important if you don't smoke and visit Strip Clubs occasionally.) Make sure it is close to home or work so you can easily stop by on your way in/out. Pay with cash - prepay for several months and don't give them your correct address. They will require ID to rent to you, but don't let them put in your home address (or use an old ID).

8. Get a membership at a franchised GYM (or the YMCA - most are open 5am-10pm). You can shower on the way home. Also, start working out every day - and when you miss a workout occasionally - you have additional time for mongering - especially if you match it up to other time you have available.

Vertrag
08-21-08, 13:53
How about just not playing? Robin Williams: Divorce: Latin for ripping a man's genitals out through his wallet.

If you're gonna run jump and play, just get divorced and get it over with. Hopefully, you'll get off cheaper.

MalIf your marriage is not intolerable and the parents can be civil, kind and happy to each other, but sex is the main or only thing missing, then it is worth keeping.

And given the current state of research on the effects on children, even an unhappy marriage is better than divorce.

So if you really love your children, you may elect to stay in that marriage - figure out a way to be happy for the next 12-15 years and who knows - maybe things will turn around in the marriage, but at least you did right by your children.

Cenflamonger
08-22-08, 08:58
5. ..Never go home without a good inspection of the monger mobile. I now have a jewelry collection I am saving till enough for a pawn shop visit, of coarse to fund PFP. Also have found crack pipes and even money. ... Have found same. Also find the little corners from the condom wrappers in my car.

FYI. If you get pulled over and LEO finds a crack pipe, this will be a big problem for you. To prevent this, after a session, I drive to a safe spot away from the area, to a place with good lighting like a shopping center parking lot and do a thorough inspection of the mongermobile. Be sure to check in the crack of the seat.

Hawk Flyer
08-22-08, 10:58
7. Consider a storage unit. Six months can be paid for the cost of one CL visit. Advantages - you can store freshener, clothes, Tide, your monger phone, a bag with toiletries, anything that might be embarassing to have in your car when the family goes on an outing - and it is safer to launder smelly clothes at lunch rather than at home. (This is especially important if you don't smoke and visit Strip Clubs occasionally.) Make sure it is close to home or work so you can easily stop by on your way in/out. Pay with cash - prepay for several months and don't give them your correct address. They will require ID to rent to you, but don't let them put in your home address (or use an old ID).

8. Get a membership at a franchised GYM (or the YMCA - most are open 5am-10pm). You can shower on the way home. Also, start working out every day - and when you miss a workout occasionally - you have additional time for mongering - especially if you match it up to other time you have available.Actually 8 cancels out 7...

If there were ever a bit of advice I've given to men who wish to play tidily pinks with someone other than their SO, its this....

Your scent is stronger than any cologne out there. Your SO knows what you smell like after a romp and what you smell like after a workout at the Gym. After you get cleaned up you need to restore your smell by sweating a little. Turn off the AC and roll down the window.

Sexybldbbwfl
08-22-08, 11:40
Thank you Hairball for bringing this up. I think there is always power in numbers and we can benefit from others mistakes. Ladies are generally very accomidating as far as using the shower, perfume, just ask. Like it was said, we would rather you stay out of trouble. If you tell me what you use, I will get what you use at home so you smell like you. A woman can pick up on the wrong soap like you cannot believe. If you save us in your phone, use a guy name you can remember so if she finds your 007 phone and asks there are male names. Female names lead to more prying. I know a gentleman that sees ladies in different areas so we are all Home Depot in his phone followed by the city we are in.

Now there is Cialis daily so she will not notice if you are taking a pill for the event or for her. Be careful about those blue pills, she knows how many there are and if you used them with her.

I would never call a man a rat bastard for seeing a provider. If you had heart problems, you would see a cardiologist not your boss or someone who is not a professional. You need a safe drama-free solution to the problem. If you are married with or without kids, you do what you need to. I have heard every reason in the book why a wife or SO will not take care of a man's needs. A man will find what her needs elsewhere. Having an affair is far more expensive that having a GFE. Just follow the rules.

Sexybldbbwfl

Retired Gfe
08-22-08, 12:19
It is much easier to come see us than to worry about someone's feelings turning sour in an affair. WHoah, can we say backlash? I think all the advice given here was great! Thanks again HB for bringing it up. It should help the guys and the ladies.


Thank you Hairball for bringing this up. I think there is always power in numbers and we can benefit from others mistakes. Ladies are generally very accomidating as far as using the shower, perfume, just ask. Like it was said, we would rather you stay out of trouble. If you tell me what you use, I will get what you use at home so you smell like you. A woman can pick up on the wrong soap like you cannot believe. If you save us in your phone, use a guy name you can remember so if she finds your 007 phone and asks there are male names. Female names lead to more prying. I know a gentleman that sees ladies in different areas so we are all Home Depot in his phone followed by the city we are in.

Now there is Cialis daily so she will not notice if you are taking a pill for the event or for her. Be careful about those blue pills, she knows how many there are and if you used them with her.

I would never call a man a rat bastard for seeing a provider. If you had heart problems, you would see a cardiologist not your boss or someone who is not a professional. You need a safe drama-free solution to the problem. If you are married with or without kids, you do what you need to. I have heard every reason in the book why a wife or SO will not take care of a man's needs. A man will find what her needs elsewhere. Having an affair is far more expensive that having a GFE. Just follow the rules.

Sexybldbbwfl

Jethrow1
08-22-08, 18:39
That smell goo d you sprayed on the other morning sure stuck to me, good thing I had a job site visit and worked up a big sweat, before heading in.

u gal need to lose the scents also.

Darkpassenger
08-22-08, 23:03
The only consequence of this hobby I worry about is hurting the woman I love.

If I know that I won't bring home any STDs by using a condomn, and that I won't EVER give her reason to worry about an "affair" with another woman, or show up on "Date line, NBC" or the local news, then I can pursue this fetish of mine without guilt.

I crave new experiences with new women. If I had an affair, it would be for the momentary experience of a new lady, and would probably be found out, and would destroy this wonderful partnership and trust that I have at home.

I am not married, but you don't risk throwing the love of your life away because you need something fresh and different to get your cock off. To keep you "in the game".

I have realized that I require these times "off my chain" to keep from doing something truly stupid, like hitting on (and nailing) some of my co-workers.

There are just some itches that can only be scratched by a pro lady; I depend on the anonimity and discretion of these wonderful women to help me keep my shit together so that no one gets hurt.

All the tips here are very welcome, from someone who doesn't want anyone to get hurt to satisfy his needs. Especially these from Sexybldbbwfl and RetiredGFE.


Thank you Hairball for bringing this up. I think there is always power in numbers and we can benefit from others mistakes. Ladies are generally very accomidating as far as using the shower, perfume, just ask. Like it was said, we would rather you stay out of trouble. If you tell me what you use, I will get what you use at home so you smell like you. A woman can pick up on the wrong soap like you cannot believe. If you save us in your phone, use a guy name you can remember so if she finds your 007 phone and asks there are male names. Female names lead to more prying. I know a gentleman that sees ladies in different areas so we are all Home Depot in his phone followed by the city we are in.

Now there is Cialis daily so she will not notice if you are taking a pill for the event or for her. Be careful about those blue pills, she knows how many there are and if you used them with her.

I would never call a man a rat bastard for seeing a provider. If you had heart problems, you would see a cardiologist not your boss or someone who is not a professional. You need a safe drama-free solution to the problem. If you are married with or without kids, you do what you need to. I have heard every reason in the book why a wife or SO will not take care of a man's needs. A man will find what her needs elsewhere. Having an affair is far more expensive that having a GFE. Just follow the rules.

Sexybldbbwfl

Darkpassenger
08-22-08, 23:06
Ignore him RGFE.. I want the whole show and I'll be able to take a shower afterwards LOL!


That smell goo d you sprayed on the other morning sure stuck to me, good thing I had a job site visit and worked up a big sweat, before heading in.

u gal need to lose the scents also.

Orlando J
08-23-08, 01:26
I know this might generate a lot of heat.
Is this a local topic? The topic is interesting for those married or sort of married but I think it's not an Orlando local topic. You might even find more ideas from others.
Then what SO are you talking about? Did you mean your soul? I can not imagine being in your shoes.
J


Post #200 and I wanted to pass this milestone with something a little different. Should this be a dumb idea please say so and I will drop into the abis of rejection, delete this thread, and go bang my wife.
First of all I want to admit, yes I am a rat bastard for cheating on my SO.

Knowing getting caught would be a really big deal have devised some safety tips I would like to pass along and hopefully you guys/girls (some of our favorite providers are married as well) will add tips as well. This has worked well in the past with many great reports on how to avoid Mr. Leo.

1. First is all other safety tips in general are more important than ever. Get caught in a sting and it is not just a minor law infraction when this news makes it's way through your family.

2. My SO can smell better than a Blood Hound. 6 hours after a visit with a Provider she can smell it. A trip to my favorite oil us up Massage place is a sure "When did you start using baby oil" question. You get the picture it is not as obvious as lip stick on the collar but still a question you do know know how to answer. In an emergency I have stopped at the gas station and spilled gas on me for cover. Keep fresh clothes stashed and never leave a stain. Wash the family clothes once in a while so when you head for the washing mashine it is not a shock. Plus you get extra points for helping around the house.

3. Try to never lie. If what you are saying is not true your SO can probably tell. Have a good reason to be on SOBT if that is where you are. There is a Home Depot there for example and I would really go there and come back with the store bag. We do not get to just jump in the car and go cruising, it has to all be part of a safe plan.

4. Hobbies (along with mongering) can be great escapes and covers. Fishing works for me but lots of other Hobbies can work as well. I think my next Hobbie may be Bird Watching. To boring for everyone else but takes me where ever I want to go.

I will add more as I think of them and hope you will too. HB

VerySlowly
08-23-08, 12:31
[ /QUOTE]
Then what SO are you talking about? Did you mean your soul? I can not imagine being in your shoes.
J[/QUOTE]

If it saves one monger from a pile of grief it's worth it, all the suggestions so far seem valid with one exception,the one about divorce. I guess it hasn't occurred to some people that you could love your wife and divorce is the farthest thing from your mind. The sex we talk about on this board is pure lust and gratification having nothing to do with the bond of marriage.

Orl J---SO is short for "Significant Other" a euphemism used to describe anyone from your wife to a girl you have a strong relationship with, it has nothing to do with your soul unless the girl is your
"soul-mate"

Actually you should get some heat for your post because Hairball is a good contributor and he started a valid thread in my opinion because getting caught in the American culture is extremely emotional. I have a friend in Germany who has been living with his girlfriend for 18 years. In a private conversation one night she confided to me that she would rather he go to a brothel( she knows he does) and get it out of his system than go to a club and "fall in love" with one of the hot young chicks and cause a world of sh** in their relationship. She has evolved to a place most Americans haven't. The next day my friend and me flew to Amsterdam for three days of viewing the fine museums there .LOL. There is a lot more to a strong partnership or relationship than just sex, done right it's a beautiful thing.

If this thread bothers you or if it's of no use to you don't read it. I don't read some threads because I don't relate to them.---VS

Orlando J
08-23-08, 15:41
Thanks for the input. Why every time anyone disagrees with someone it's interpreted as a disrespect or an attack? I think this thread could be more useful for other towns, cities and states whether the topic is of interest to me or not. It's not a local topic to Orlando members.

J


Orl J---SO is short for "Significant Other" a euphemism used to describe anyone from your wife to a girl you have a strong relationship with, it has nothing to do with your soul unless the girl is your
"soul-mate"

---VS

Hairball
08-23-08, 16:30
Don't brag, Keep you escapades to your self. Never tell friends, co-workers or anyone who knows who you really are what you are up to. For example, it would be very easy to blurt out what you know about AMPs if it is already the topic of conversation at the water cooler. Speak up and all listening will then suspect you of these activities. I would rather say I don't believe that stuff really happens.

This forum allows us to tell someone of these exciting adventures in the form of a creative writting and is a much better place to brag a little.

BTW, you have to love our girls here. Not just fun to be with but smart enough to help keep me out of trouble.

I am still a mongering old rat bastard but you are the only ones that know.

Hairball
08-23-08, 20:15
OrlandoJ,
I did not take this as a attack and actually thought about placing this idea in a more general forum. If you were a newbe first poster I may have thought so but you have contrubited more than most on the safety tips. I have made some friends on this local board and would rather do something to support them when I can.
If this thread ever becomes anything enduring more than a few posts it will be picked up by others and spread around on its own.

Orlando J
08-23-08, 22:14
Thanks for your understanding and explanations. I appreciate it and good luck.
The only thing that did not make sense to me was SO I misunderstood it and thought you meant Soul-mate.
J
Here is a contribution to the topic;
Here's a great web site your woman will eventually read so you might as well know about it.
This way , you can be aware of what they're looking for and take steps to avoid detection
Ref:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=5148

OrlandoJ,
I did not take this as a attack and actually thought about placing this idea in a more general forum. If you were a newbe first poster I may have thought so but you have contrubited more than most on the safety tips. I have made some friends on this local board and would rather do something to support them when I can.
If this thread ever becomes anything enduring more than a few posts it will be picked up by others and spread around on its own.

Worldsoffun
08-23-08, 22:21
I'm personally enjoying the new thread and would like that thank HB for starting it. Not that I'm married or anything like that......but hey guys....I have to run off the GYM! <wink>

See ya there!

WOF

Darkpassenger
08-23-08, 23:47
Thanks to HB and everyone for this information - I am relieved to see that I'm not the only one in this boat who doesn't EVER want to hurt those they love just to satisfy their needs.

All the advice here is GREATLY appreciated, ladies and gents!

Retired Gfe
08-25-08, 14:02
I remember that moment well now too. I am so sorry. It happens to the best of us. I will be more careful from now on too. So Jethrow you have a valid point.

XOXOX,

Lissa


That smell goo d you sprayed on the other morning sure stuck to me, good thing I had a job site visit and worked up a big sweat, before heading in.

u gal need to lose the scents also.

Hawk Flyer
08-26-08, 18:09
Just thought of this one.

A small lock box that fits under the seat to hold things that you don't want to walk away. Wives/GF have a habit of leaving personal items behind to mark their territory, so to speak.

Placing those items into a lock box ensures that they will still be there when you get home. Further reassuring the SO that no was in the car with you.

You can claim its for your wallet while at the worksite or other place that you might want to keep your wallet. (this is what you tell the SO)

This can actually apply to many other situations while mongering.

Tek Ter
08-28-08, 11:22
It's ALWAYS a good idea to have a prepaid phone on hand; preferably out of mind of your wife. The last thing you want is your real phone number coming up in an investigation of a murdered or beat up prostitute. That could be disasterous. And most of all you don't want some girl's phone number popping up on your wireless bill and your wife asking questions.

Visit eBay and buy a cheap unlocked GSM phone. If you really want to be anonymous, I know a guy in Sanford who'll get you an AT&T prepaid account with absolutely no ties to your name or address; he'll set you up with a SIM, phone #, and prepaid card (s). My guy won't ask for any ID and won't verify personal info if he knows you're coming. Give him a fake name and address and all is well. Just make a small cash donation to him ($20) and he'll take care of ya. PM me for more info.

Darkpassenger
08-29-08, 01:29
Radio Shack has much the same deal for about $60 total, and no worries about your Significant Other intercepting your Ebay package with a phone in it. Just keep it at the office, golf club or where ever.

It's a workable Motorola phone with 200 prepaid minutes on it. Just pay cash and give false info for warranty, registration and such, but remember what you tell them for recharging & activation. You'll need it.

Use a prepaid credit card (wallmart sells them) for the actual money for recharging the minutes, but pay with cash et cetera, when you get it. They sell them for parents with college kids who want to limit how much the kids can spend.


It's ALWAYS a good idea to have a prepaid phone on hand; preferably out of mind of your wife. The last thing you want is your real phone number coming up in an investigation of a murdered or beat up prostitute. That could be disasterous. And most of all you don't want some girl's phone number popping up on your wireless bill and your wife asking questions.

Visit eBay and buy a cheap unlocked GSM phone. If you really want to be anonymous, I know a guy in Sanford who'll get you an AT&T prepaid account with absolutely no ties to your name or address; he'll set you up with a SIM, phone #, and prepaid card (s). My guy won't ask for any ID and won't verify personal info if he knows you're coming. Give him a fake name and address and all is well. Just make a small cash donation to him ($20) and he'll take care of ya. PM me for more info.

Orlando J
08-29-08, 20:27
A year ago there were private numbers. They were basically an e-voice mail and you sign up for them the same way you create an email account. These numbers could be picked with any area code. You could also pay a small fee and you can get calls forwarded to another number. You could also have just a notification.
J

VerySlowly
09-03-08, 12:17
We can now eliminate the screaming and yelling, it is definitely not our fault!!! We can't help it, we want to stop but our genetics won't let us, Damn those hormones and receptors.........HTTP://W.W.W.ABCNEWS.GO.com/Technology/story?id=5702390&page=

I Pickum Up
09-10-08, 20:27
The easiest way I figure is to head to Wal-mart and pick up a Trac Phone when you regester it all you need is a valid E-mail if you do it online like I did in that case get a Hotmail or Gmail free account for that which you should have anyway for USASG notifications and responding to any CL ads that acutally accept E-mails. That is my way of doing things the mins are not extreamly cheap but if you buy a big card and a double mins card the mins last forever in cases when you have a dry spell on cash or whatever you don't lose the mins. And you can buy one of the phones for like $15.00 so if it gets ripped or lost it is no big loss get the cheapest one they sell they can go up to over $100 but who needs that camera crap on a throw a way phone. I alway carry Axe or my usual cologne in my veihicle just in case also and a hat is not a bad idea to cover the messy hair look. Well hope this helps out!

/I

Juicyfatgirl
09-10-08, 20:48
A quality provider also will smell clean, without smelling like perfume (for you married) and she will have a clean shower with no scented soap. Everyone's safe that way!


The easiest way I figure is to head to Wal-mart and pick up a Trac Phone when you regester it all you need is a valid E-mail if you do it online like I did in that case get a Hotmail or Gmail free account for that which you should have anyway for USASG notifications and responding to any CL ads that acutally accept E-mails. That is my way of doing things the mins are not extreamly cheap but if you buy a big card and a double mins card the mins last forever in cases when you have a dry spell on cash or whatever you don't lose the mins. And you can buy one of the phones for like $15.00 so if it gets ripped or lost it is no big loss get the cheapest one they sell they can go up to over $100 but who needs that camera crap on a throw a way phone. I alway carry Axe or my usual cologne in my veihicle just in case also and a hat is not a bad idea to cover the messy hair look. Well hope this helps out!

/I

Sir Loin
09-14-08, 14:49
I would think this would be common sense, but guys, please protect yourselves. I see numerous pics and reports of guys DATY and putting fingers into girls UNPROTECTED. It's even very unsafe to DFK.

and I am sure quite a few are married

DO you want to come home w/ bumps on your tounge?

DO you want to come home w/ bumps on your fingers?

DO you want to ruin it for your fellow mongers by doing something unprotected and giving an STD to a provider, especially an escort, that is actually healthy, and in turn infecting fellow mongers?

Wives are smarter these days, "I got it from the toilet seat" or "Something splashed back up on me when I was sitting on the toilet" IS NOT a valid explanation for the bumps that you have. Think about what this will do to your wife and the children that you have with your wife.

Just be safe guys.

LapDogg
09-18-08, 21:48
a couple of years ago I bought (cash only, fake name, activate out of home area, etc) a virgin mobile phone for mongering. every 3 months I am required to "top up" to avoid losing my number (or pay $90 per year). Well over the months of topping up, I have accumulated a significant balance, but I don't use it enough to really use all of the minutes

What prepaid phones out there don't require the regular addition of money to keep the number active? I'm willing to ditch my current phone -- or better yet give it to some escort/SW in return for services in order to buy a phone that the minutes will last if I don't use it often.

Any recommendations?

Also, anyone know of any phone bought in the US that will work in Canada too? My virgin mobile doesn't work up there.

Blondehound
09-19-08, 01:32
Married guys you may want to make sure your car is clear of things on the inside that would make LE foam at the mouth as you do your OBT strolling.

Both types of Orlando LE have pulled me over this year and lied about the reason. I didn't do anything in both cases. The 1st pullover the LE said I was pulled for my window tinting, when he discovered it was factory and in florida codes he then switched his story to I made an illegal lane change and I hadn't changed lanes at all since I made my turn on OBT from Sandlake. I was then detained and lectured for close to an hour. In which time I was hammered as to the reason why I was out on OBT, which I said was deciding on which strip club to enter. Eventually I was told to leave town, which was funny because he was told I had a hotel room in town.

2nd pullover and this one may scare most of you. I was pulled another time this year and the LE made up some crazy infraction which I won't be able to post here because I went to court to fight it and lost. "The infraction was a very minor one". So the LE asks me what I am doing on the trail and I said meeting some friends at one of the strip clubs "which was true" the LE laughs and tells me why I was pulled over and its an insane story. Also the whole time this LE is practically yelling at me and treating me like I am about to be batoned or shot. But it gets worse for me. I was told "I need to search your car" and they immediately search my car. I wasn't even given a chance to say no, I was pulled behind my vehicle by force, my items were yanked out of my pockets and I was forced to lay down on the LE car. They were searching my car and I was saying I don't consent to a search the whole time. They finish the search and were very pissed that they didn't find anything. The story doesn't end here sadly. The LE decide to arrest me and call for a wrecker. Which I then politely say, I told you I didn't consent to a search but you still did one anyway, I was told by my brother who is an LE in another state not to consent to a search ever which is what I did. I then said you violated my rights. This pisses the LE off even more, but they then say " hold on we are still waiting on your license check ". After a few more minutes the license check comes back clean of course, I have never ever been written up for anything ever. So then the LE babbles something about not needing a wrecker on the radio and I then am presented with a citation, which shocked me because the pullover was a lie. I am given all of my items back and told to get out of town, which is a riot to hear them say that. I then decide to find an SW and I did and proceeded to go back to my hotel and forget what just happened.

Ok so I get a lawyer, I go to court, with proof, photos, the works. My lawyer also lets the judge know that the LE wrote a different infraction on the ticket than what I was told I had done and then the LE lies on the stand that they never said that and what I did was on the ticket in which I signed. My lawyer says you can't read the writing on the citation and then argues that "shouldn't we be able to trust what the LE says is true when you can't read what they wrote? " The judge kinda chuckles at me and says you deserved whatever you get for driving on OBT at night, fines me for extra court costs all in all about 500. 00 with the lawyer fee. The fine would have been under 200. 00 if I would have just paid it.

So here is the deal. You drive OBT, you takes your chances. LE will pull you over and make up a story about why. It may be they say you have illegal window tinting, maybe you ran a stop light, maybe you made an illegal lane change, maybe you ran a stop sign, you could have been speeding or any number of things you weren't, but it doesn't matter because its your word agains't theirs and if you are on the OBT you won't get a fair shake in court because Orlando LE feel lying is fine because we all deserve what we got for driving on OBT. Your car will get searched if they want to search it also and there is nothing you can do about it.

So married guys or even non married guys, here is something you want to make sure you do from here on out.

Don't carry a concealed weapon of any kind in your car.

Have a good spot to hide your condoms because they will make a case on you for carrying those.

Anything at all that LE can use to arrest you, keep out of your car.

If you can't afford to have your wife find out you are crusin OBT them you may want to start using the call girls over SW's because eventually you will get pulled over on OBT and you may get a ticket.

I know there will be comments about this and thats cool. We can argue that we have rights and the truth will set us free, but thats far from the truth in O-Town. In this town you are guilty and you can't prove your innocent because LE will lie under oath.

BH

Orlando J
09-19-08, 01:37
If you are looking for a phone to keep and a good deal all over north America then get verizon with north america plans.
If you are looking for just few calls then get a gsm phone. In Canada Rogers' network will kick in once you cross the borders. Also, you can get a sim card to put in your cell-phone. Do not forget to get unlocked cell-phone or if you have been with t-mobile you can ask them to unlock the cell-phone.
Good luck
J


Also, anyone know of any phone bought in the US that will work in Canada too? My virgin mobile doesn't work up there.

Darkpassenger
09-19-08, 22:10
The down-side is you have to re-up some minutes about every six months; but $20 bucks is a no-brainer for the security factor, IMHO.


a couple of years ago I bought (cash only, fake name, activate out of home area, etc) a virgin mobile phone for mongering. every 3 months I am required to "top up" to avoid losing my number (or pay $90 per year). Well over the months of topping up, I have accumulated a significant balance, but I don't use it enough to really use all of the minutes

What prepaid phones out there don't require the regular addition of money to keep the number active? I'm willing to ditch my current phone -- or better yet give it to some escort/SW in return for services in order to buy a phone that the minutes will last if I don't use it often.

Any recommendations?

Also, anyone know of any phone bought in the US that will work in Canada too? My virgin mobile doesn't work up there.

Sir Loin
09-20-08, 13:17
I'm not sure if this post quite qualifies for this thread, but I think it comes very close

One of the great things about CL girls and escorts is of course that you can see their pics first, and of course in many ways safer than a SW, plus you can have them fulfill certain fantasies.

One of the things it kept me safe from is having my SO find out that I banged one of my 4 co-workers I have a crush on. They all flirt back and forth with me on a daily basis and sometimes it gets me very hot under the collar, instead of ruining things at the job by sleeping with one of them and ruining things w/ the SO, I can easily find a girl that has a striking resemblance to these co-workers, in either face, body-type, or both, you can even have them role play for you. A very healthy and safe way to get that infatuation out of your system.

ALOT safer all around than actually fooling around with them and causing myself uneccessary drama.

Anybody else w/ me on this? It's kinda like you've found their fuck stunt double. LOL

Hairball
09-20-08, 19:39
I'm not sure if this post quite qualifies for this thread, but I think it comes very close

One of the great things about CL girls and escorts is of course that you can see their pics first, and of course in many ways safer than a SW, plus you can have them fulfill certain fantasies.

One of the things it kept me safe from is having my SO find out that I banged one of my 4 co-workers I have a crush on. They all flirt back and forth with me on a daily basis and sometimes it gets me very hot under the collar, instead of ruining things at the job by sleeping with one of them and ruining things w/ the SO, I can easily find a girl that has a striking resemblance to these co-workers, in either face, body-type, or both, you can even have them role play for you. A very healthy and safe way to get that infatuation out of your system.

ALOT safer all around than actually fooling around with them and causing myself uneccessary drama.

Anybody else w/ me on this? It's kinda like you've found their fuck stunt double. LOL

Tahleno, I'm with you on this and what ever works. I used to work in a factory and the same situation and temptations especially with a few after hours beers. The look can be a big part of the fantasy too. Even with the wife you can relive a memory, just don't call out the wrong name. How confused am I because I searched out one of our providers because she looks like my wife.

Sir Loin
09-21-08, 00:34
just don't call out the wrong nameThat's why I also metioned *role play*, you might even get the provider to let you call them your SO or other coworker fantasy's name.

Sexybldbbwfl
09-21-08, 09:57
I have been a wife and wonder know how men can manage to slip away the cash to hobby. I am sire most of you have some unknown disposable cash or maybe you are blessed not to have to answer to a wife or so. Please share how you do this.

My next question, if cash is closely monitered, other ideas for compensation? Can you buy a gift card with a credit card and it go undiscovered?

I look forward to you responses. Thank you and have a beautiful day.

Debbie

Jethrow1
09-21-08, 10:20
Now there's a challenge, luckily for me wifey doesn't keep tabs to closely. Still we have budgetary constraints as do most. I use a number of methods. I can miss a few weekday meals and put some away. I do garage sales and c/l tools pretty regular and she never knows exactly what I buy and for how much. A little side job here and there. It all adds up. I know guys that buy items for cash and or check and return them later for cash.

You can offer to pump gas into another guys car for cash, guys will always help another hide cash, they understand.

I actually got a motel room (next town over) once using my card, told her I had gotten sick and had to clean up (damn bad food she cooked) LOL.
You tell that one as soon as U come home, don't forget to toss your undies before U get home. It worked, she now insists I carry spare undies in the car. May use it again every so often. Besides I am on medication that does that now and then.

Now the trick is when U get the cash, is to spend it wisely.

Debbie who posted below me is a good place to spend it as well.
BTW Debbie mutual our friend from Lakewales PM'd me, what did U do to him, drug him and brainwash him. LOL. He was severely absolutely overpoweringly, impressed with the time he spent with U.

Keep saving that money and remember spending it improves our economy.
Better spend it before Bidden makes U become Patriotic with it.

Jethrow1

Sikpup
09-21-08, 13:35
I handle the grocery shopping so I get cash back on my debit card about twice a week and shred the register slip also I get atm cash regularly but use a credit card for every thing I buy. I also cash in us savings bonds occasionly to bolster my mad money and any checks that I receive through the mail get cashed not deposited.

Smiling Fox
09-21-08, 15:26
To all the ladies that worry about their husbands/boyfriends, etc. If I may give you the advice and comments from 2 of the most professional ladies I ever met. Ready !

Just Fuck.

Yup that's it, F*ck the hell out of him, blow him, wack him, do things that no other human being would do to him. Never let him walk out the door horny. Blow him when he walks in, at the table, in the morning noon or night.

Lizzy, said that a guy at marriage expects sex to always be what it was before marriage. A man needs to have sex, to cum, in order to be healthy. It is hormonal. So if you want a happy satisfied man, Fuck him!

Hope I didn't gross anyone out, the Paper Lizzy wrote, and the discussion w/Morgan, was much longer. I jut paraphrased.

And you know its true, at my tender age, I really like to have sex every 2-3 days, the hormones just surge. If my long time SO, grabbed me and did me, I would fall off my chair, and probably wouldn't be out very much at all.

Smiling Fox; }

And if any of you moms, MILF's, wife's are in Baltimore, and want to get together, let me know. I just love horny mature, women. LOL.

Sexybldbbwfl
09-21-08, 22:06
I am impressed to see what you can do if you try. When I was a wife, a long time ago, money was always tight and I paid all the bills and took care of the checkbook so whenever I put a debit or check in I added $20 for me and he never noticed. I always had a little pocket change. Everyone deserves that.

Jethrow-I just treated him as he deserved. He was a perfect gentleman and spoiled me. He was perfect. Everytime I sip the Southern Comfort, I think of him and smile big. Next time I will take it up a notch. It was the company.

Wet Kisses,
Debbie

John Terry
09-22-08, 10:21
I have an expense account at work and they issue an additional check at the end of the pay period to cover it. I will try to work in a lunch with a client (usually $100+) and then when I get the check, i cash it and use that for fun money.

For those with expenses accounts, this works well.

Hairball
09-23-08, 09:09
A few years back I came across a money wind fall (sold my boat) and had enough to open a online trading account. In my name only allows me to cash checks with minimal family records. Wiffy knows all about it and as long as I share some of the gains (and show her the losses) is content letting me handle it all. I will be the first to admit there is a learning curve to investing and will not be for everyone. After 4-5 years now have started tapping into my invest for play system. The market is now in the toilet but this is actually the best time to get started. It is 500 to open the account I use and trades are cheap at 7ea. Your total loss will be 500 if you fail completely and if you figure out how to game the system there is no limit to the upside. Spend half the time you think about pussy learning the market and you too can develop over time this source for your P4P.
Everyone has a different relationship with their SO and money. Mine handles all the family money and other than an occasional cash allowance to go fishing am on my own to find cash. Always looking for other methods and have heard some good ones mentioned.
Some of our providers I have noticed use E-bay to help supplement their income and should also be considered.
I am really glad this topic came up it is very helpful.

Hairball
10-02-08, 19:03
A few years back I came across a money wind fall (sold my boat) and had enough to open a online trading account. In my name only allows me to cash checks with minimal family records. Wiffy knows all about it and as long as I share some of the gains (and show her the losses) is content letting me handle it all. I will be the first to admit there is a learning curve to investing and will not be for everyone. After 4-5 years now have started tapping into my invest for play system. The market is now in the toilet but this is actually the best time to get started. It is 500 to open the account I use and trades are cheap at 7ea. Your total loss will be 500 if you fail completely and if you figure out how to game the system there is no limit to the upside. Spend half the time you think about pussy learning the market and you too can develop over time this source for your P4P.
Everyone has a different relationship with their SO and money. Mine handles all the family money and other than an occasional cash allowance to go fishing am on my own to find cash. Always looking for other methods and have heard some good ones mentioned.
Some of our providers I have noticed use E-bay to help supplement their income and should also be considered.
I am really glad this topic came up it is very helpful.

Scratch this plan. The market has delt me a death blow this week. Not only has my monger funds been wacked my retirement pretty much went up in smoke. Thanks George Bush for all your hard work.

Humdrum
10-03-08, 04:54
Scratch this plan. The market has delt me a death blow this week. Not only has my monger funds been wacked my retirement pretty much went up in smoke. Thanks George Bush for all your hard work. He is spot on I lost $42, 000 in my 401 k just in the last 4 months I'm afraid when I go to the bank the doors will be locked.

All of a sudden paying $200-$250 for a dream looks expensive.

But the smart ones will realize this and adjust accordingly.

Just saying girls, you will get more dreamdates at a lower price these days, so expect some of us to start to haggle LOL

Man where is bob barker when we need him that would be funny bidding on dreams LOL.

Hawk Flyer
10-03-08, 07:27
Scratch this plan. The market has delt me a death blow this week. Not only has my monger funds been wacked my retirement pretty much went up in smoke. Thanks George Bush for all your hard work.Thanks for your payment!!! I made out like a bandit.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

I have doubled up in the last two weeks. Its just a hobby for me, online trading that is. I only have enough money in there to loss it all. You know, what I'd have spent on a hobby over the year. So, if I loose its only a hobby but if I win I'm better off.

Member #6031
10-03-08, 14:46
I have an expense account at work and they issue an additional check at the end of the pay period to cover it. I will try to work in a lunch with a client (usually $100+) and then when I get the check, i cash it and use that for fun money.

For those with expenses accounts, this works well.Remeber a reciept is a word doc on a smaller piece of paper. Think about it.

Dickchainy
01-06-09, 16:28
He is spot on I lost $42, 000 in my 401 k just in the last 4 months I'm afraid when I go to the bank the doors will be locked.

All of a sudden paying $200-$250 for a dream looks expensive.

But the smart ones will realize this and adjust accordingly.

Just saying girls, you will get more dreamdates at a lower price these days, so expect some of us to start to haggle LOL.

Man where is bob barker when we need him that would be funny bidding on dreams LOL.For every loser, there's a winner. What you don't have someone else does, or will soon. We are not in short supply. They are in demand.

Let me say this in consolation: you won't see the lady's prices drop until mid-March. Unfortunately, you will see fewer of them between now and then.

The Superbowl is next door, not here.

Hairball
06-24-09, 08:48
Well maybe this thread has run its coarse but I have a story to tell.
I took a road trip to the mid west not long ago and tried to preplan an adventure with a well know highly reviewed provider. All went well with e-mails and she acknowleged a time to meet. Waited for the call to finalize which never happened. Perhaps I did not jump through enough hoops to her satisfaction? She is USG member advertiser so maybe expected too much and do realize they have to play extra safe. That being said when I enquired as to what happened got a reply "Who are you and why are you threatning me?" As much as I would like to tell the entire story and put this out there for public judgement --- I am married and she knows plenty enough about me so if she wanted to could make my life hell. I must let this go. The rules are definately different for us married folks. HB

Otwist
06-24-09, 15:34
Well maybe this thread has run its coarse but I have a story to tell.
I took a road trip to the mid west not long ago and tried to preplan an adventure with a well know highly reviewed provider. All went well with e-mails and she acknowleged a time to meet. Waited for the call to finalize which never happened. Perhaps I did not jump through enough hoops to her satisfaction? She is USG member advertiser so maybe expected too much and do realize they have to play extra safe. That being said when I enquired as to what happened got a reply "Who are you and why are you threatning me?" As much as I would like to tell the entire story and put this out there for public judgement --- I am married and she knows plenty enough about me so if she wanted to could make my life hell. I must let this go. The rules are definately different for us married folks. HB

This is a common tactic by bad, hard bitten escorts. They change their plans and treat you with a total lack of respect. When you ask simply "why"? Instead of being honest and considerate, they get nasty and turn it around and make you the bad guy. I guess it plays better in their heads to make you the bad guy.

This is not true of all escorts (obviously), but you can probably imagine why it gets to a lot of them. They run in to so many a-holes, that they just lump the good guys in with the bad. It takes a special kind of lady to be a good escort and not every lady has what it takes.

The best course of action in a situation like yours is to leave it alone. You are not going to change her mind and anything you say, she will just twist it around to make you the bad guy again.

Vertrag
06-25-09, 20:21
...I am married and she knows plenty enough about me so if she wanted to could make my life hell. I must let this go. The rules are definately different for us married folks. HB
This is why my #1 rule is to never reveal info that alone or in aggregate coule reveal my real life identity - no matter how attractive the escort or the deal.

Hairball
06-26-09, 10:28
This is why my #1 rule is to never reveal info that alone or in aggregate coule reveal my real life identity - no matter how attractive the escort or the deal.

Vertag,
May be I do not do this enough but it is my understanding that no safety minded provider will see you until they know who you are. We have a few that will see you based on you USG membership but would be willing to bet thay still know who you are. The few I have met here could suppliment their incomes as a private investigator. I should be so smart.

Vertrag
06-26-09, 13:21
Vertag,
May be I do not do this enough but it is my understanding that no safety minded provider will see you until they know who you are. We have a few that will see you based on you USG membership but would be willing to bet thay still know who you are. The few I have met here could suppliment their incomes as a private investigator. I should be so smart.I agree that USG membership is usually not enough. However, I've found that a referral from a well known provider or two is usually enough - if not I pass.

Dugout
10-21-09, 00:24
Thats for the great tips.

One of the better USASG threads I have read.

Hairball
12-03-09, 09:13
Tiger Tiger Tiger,
If you had only RTFF and heeded the advise. I dare say we could all have pussy for the rest of our lives for what you are going to lose.

Clinton Bush
12-03-09, 10:08
Tiger Tiger Tiger,
If you had only RTFF and heeded the advise. I dare say we could all have pussy for the rest of our lives for what you are going to lose.

237. Don't buy your woman golf clubs or any other large stick she can use to beat the shit out of you.

I wonder if Jaimee Grubbs said "I feel a Tiger in my tank"

Robert 35
06-30-10, 17:58
I found this in an old post in another section and thought it was so good that it deserved to be reposted in the Orlando forum.

Ten Things NOT to do if Arrested

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6626-Ten-Things-NOT-to-do-if-Arrested

Jethrow1
01-03-11, 08:23
Quote from Tampa forum.

"Read this article at the barber shop a couple of days ago, I thought it was kinda of funny."

http://www.maxim.com/amg/humor/stupi...at-it-too.html

I for one use guys names for gals or sub contractor titles, like Dee's cleaning services (pipe cleaner) LOL.

Always keep a little truth in your lies.

I find that making a plan to see someone is easy and I do it the same as if I was going to Home Depot.

I have been to Gander Mountain on several occasions, etc.

Jeep95
01-03-11, 09:02
I found this in an old post in another section and thought it was so good that it deserved to be reposted in the Orlando forum.

Ten Things NOT to do if Arrested.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6626-Ten-Things-NOT-to-do-if-ArrestedWhy isn't this taught in schools?

Hairball
03-28-11, 08:51
My fellow Mongers,

After SW Surfers report a number of guys said they pack a gun for protection when dealing with a thug. I have only had to protect myself one time with a incident like this and was lucky to get the first hit in and was able to leave (in a big hurry) before it went any further. How ever had I pulled a gun I seriously doubt I would still be married. This may be fine for you single guys but once you pull out the gun and shoot some one, right or wrong, the police get involved and there is no hidding it from the SO. Play for pay is alot like buying a stock. Sometimes you score but in the event you are wrong it is always best to cut you loses as fast as you can. Follow the rules as they work most of the time. I have been ripped off plenty of times and learned the hard way but losing a few bucks or in this case scared to death is way cheaper than the wrath my SO would put on me. HB

MisterBfd
06-04-12, 04:40
My wife of going on 30 years allows me to indulge in encounters with other females. Whether it be via swinging or through the hobby, I have the green light to proceed. So I don't have to worry too much. My only concern is that I don't focus on the "other females" to the detriment of my focus on my wife.

Incidentally, our sex life is more exciting and satisfying and fulfilling now than it was when we were doing it 3 or 4 times a day when we first got together. Back then our only real asset was quantity. Today, quality and longevity are our focus. These days my priority is getting my partner off rather than getting myself off as I did back when the sex was brand new. I've matured into a considerate lover, and that consideration is provided to any woman I'm with, whether it be my wife or someone else.

If you have the right attitude and commitment, it can get better. And better. And better.

Deka76
06-19-12, 13:43
An alternative to cheating

The vast majority of men in marriages & relationships have issues about how much sex they get, and how often. After the honeymoon period of relationships there is a tendency for this area to begin to lack attention. And as most guys will confirm, the less intimacy and sex there is, the more everything seems to be more of a problem than it should be.

Cheating on your partner is not new by any means and seems to be on the increase as marriages and relationships don't seem to last very long, the 50 plus divorce rate should be proof enough to warrant attention. So what do you do? If your mate isn't a swinger or thrilled with having an open relationship then you are left with only a few choices. Go to therapy (highly recommended) , have casual sex when you can, find a lover, or take the easiest route, buy the sex. None of the mentioned is a good solution if the intention is to maintain the relationship. Let's face it, you ALWAYS get caught. It's just a matter of when and how.

There is another option that 'technically' isn't cheating, isn't breaking any cardinal rules, and is 100% pleasurable. 100% satisfying, and 100% safe. A therapeutic erotic massage. The therapeutic erotic massage does not involve any sexual penetration so there is no concern about performance, there are no demands on you at all, only that you relax and receive pure pleasure over your entire body. And since it's an erotic massage, no parts are left untouched and there is a great deal of attention paid to the happy areas. In fact, the happy areas probably haven't had that much sensual attention in a very long time, if ever.

The good erotic massages will also take your massage to its natural conclusion, and that of course includes ejaculation. When you have had this kind of intense treatment for an hour or more, when you get off the table, the last thing on your mind will be sex, and you will feel an incredible sense of relaxation and comfort. And perhaps second best is that you don't need to have guilt about cheating with another woman (though you probably will anyway). It's an experienced I strongly suggest trying, it can help you get in a better frame of mind to deal with any issues in a more calm and relaxed manor.

Ofcourse you have to find the right massuse who knows what she's doing and has the right personality.

I have recently tried such a place, and though I don't have any lack of sex in my relationship, I wish I did so I would have an excuse to get lots of those massages;)

The place is located in Copenhagen, but have heard they will be starting up in Florida soon as well. Now I wish Ilived in florida too;)

www.nsjmassagedk.com

TheeeGentleman
06-23-12, 19:14
Hey Brothers. Good advice. Take a look at this really fantastic video with advice from an attorney:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Quietus
06-28-12, 19:08
I've been corresponding with someone via email about a possible hook up. She mentioned a donation, which I've no problem with, and with the wife out of town this in call is looking good. So what turned out to be a CL ad for NSA is now a business arrangement. I've never done this before only the occasional AMP. Question is: Does LEO do stings like this at people's private homes?

Member #5177
06-29-12, 13:45
I've been corresponding with someone via email about a possible hook up. She mentioned a donation, which I've no problem with, and with the wife out of town this in call is looking good. So what turned out to be a CL ad for NSA is now a business arrangement. I've never done this before only the occasional AMP. Question is: Does LEO do stings like this at people's private homes?Your prob safe at your home from leo but not a good idea none the less. Her home I hope your not in polk co. I always meet CL girls in public first Leo prob will not go to that much trouble and it make the logistics hard for them. You can also walk away for any reason so pay attn to the big head. Take yr phone and priceline a room or pick a notell for the first date at least. Nothing like the wife coming home and asking you who's hair is this.

Play safe

Quietus
06-29-12, 18:36
Your prob safe at your home from leo but not a good idea none the less. Her home I hope your not in polk co. I always meet CL girls in public first Leo prob will not go to that much trouble and it make the logistics hard for them. You can also walk away for any reason so pay attn to the big head. Take yr phone and priceline a room or pick a notell for the first date at least. Nothing like the wife coming home and asking you who's hair is this.

Play safeWell I couldn't wait any longer so I pulled the trigger. We kept our communication by email only (no calls or texting). Told her to meet me at a local fast food parking lot. I pulled in 5 mins. Early and saw her car. She hopped out and was definitely bigger than I expected but oh well this meet up was for a BBBJCIMWS so I didn't mind. I told her to get in the back seat as I didn't want any of the neighbors to see me riding down the street with a strange woman when everyone knows my wife is out of town LOL. I told her to lay down back there and she complied. It was dark and no one was out except for my next door neighbor who was getting the groceries out of her car. She's real tight with the wife so I was sweating that a bit. I hit the garage door opener slid into the garage and quickly closed it and I said ok you can get up now. Anyway it was pretty exciting that whole James Bond thing going on. I had all of the curtains down before I left to pick her up. She immediatley took off her mumu to show me some massive mammary glands. I put two pillows on the tile floor and sat on the couch with cock out. She got me hard pretty quick by licking my sack then she followed with the BEST BJ ever. My wife is not really into that and the last time I had quality oral was probably last century! It took about 10 minutes before I finished. She almost choked on the fluid and to my surprise it went down the hatch. I've never done this before so I didn't even know to negotiate what was to happen all I knew was she said was a topless BJ for. 4 ok during our emails. Anyway I can see me being a regular during the summer.

Vino 7373
06-05-13, 21:31
I know that several of the guys on here use their gym as an excuse to go have fun. You can work out two nights per week and go elsewhere for your cardio on the third night. You also have a shower there and can swing by to freshen up before heading home.

Planet Fitness is only 10 bucks per month. They usually run their sign-up specials every 3-4 months. They'll charge you from 1-10 bucks for your signup fee instead of the usual 50 bucks.

Something to think about.

Pokin
07-10-13, 18:40
In addition to the monger phone I have a thumb drive with Firefox portable installed on it. Just set it to never remember your history in case the drive is found. Otherwise, it will leave no traces on your actual computer because it isn't even installed there. Also works around any of those pesky internet restrictions in places that have them. Helps to have it nestled amongst a million work files in a cleverly named folder.

Hairball
04-30-14, 08:36
My fellow married.

I figure we have covered about all this thread is worth but have one issue pop up and it has me rethinking some involvement of mine.

Most of my mongering life has been with street girls since being burned a few times by the BP girls. Why street girls is because there is no personal involvement and is hit or miss I will admit but at least when it is a miss you are not out $$ bucks. In my old age (about to hit 66) have returned to the search for quality and have to say wish I had been using all the highly reviewed advertisers of this forum all along. Now my issue is I have become too attached to one of these girls who wants even more passion. Not at all sure what to do next and just wanted to throw this out there for some free advise.

For the purpose of this thread, do not let yourself become so smitten.

Camera3
05-01-14, 07:01
HB,

I have little advice and, frankly, I am hardly the person to give anyone advice on things of passion or relationships. We could say the obvious, "Don't get emotionally involved with a SP." Then again, maybe it is something that is built into us guys as hunter gatherers to want to somehow rescue someone. Do you feel this lady needs to be rescued?

I do have an observation. I have now dated a few of the ladies that are part of our little neighborhood and find them to be very nice people. In fact, I would go so far as to say that they are the kind I might get emotionally involved with, that is, if I didn't believe strongly in the rule, Don't get emotionally involved with a SP. The ladies I have dated that I met on this forum are a cut above, that is for sure.

There is a book that changed my life a while back. In fact, I have read it several times in my life. The book is Passage: Predictable Crises in Adult Life by Gail Sheehy. I first read it in my 20's when I was facing a crisis of self identity and then again in my mid 30's when I realized I was about half way through life but not half way through the goals of my life. I read it in my 40's when I was going through my second childhood and in my 50's while going through my most recent divorce. Now that I am North of 60 I may need to read it again. I seem to be making some questionable choices and Sheehy seems to be good at helping me at least understand things, even if I don't do anything about it.

In the mean time, I think I am swearing off of BP girls. It's just a lot of work to filter through the shit. And I am frustrated with the SW scene. The two or three girls I wish I could meet almost daily just don't keep regular hours. And my old favorite SW got knocked off my list when she cleaned out my wallet while giving me really great head. USASG, at least in our area of the world, seems to be a solid place to meet SP's. They are top notch. I could see where that might lead to an emotional connection with someone.

C3.


My fellow married.

I figure we have covered about all this thread is worth but have one issue pop up and it has me rethinking some involvement of mine.

Most of my mongering life has been with street girls since being burned a few times by the BP girls. Why street girls is because there is no personal involvement and is hit or miss I will admit but at least when it is a miss you are not out $$ bucks. In my old age (about to hit 66) have returned to the search for quality and have to say wish I had been using all the highly reviewed advertisers of this forum all along. Now my issue is I have become too attached to one of these girls who wants even more passion. Not at all sure what to do next and just wanted to throw this out there for some free advise.

For the purpose of this thread, do not let yourself become so smitten.

Hairball
05-01-14, 08:51
HB,

I have little advice and, frankly, I am hardly the person to give anyone advice on things of passion or relationships. We could say the obvious, "Don't get emotionally involved with a SP." Then again, maybe it is something that is built into us guys as hunter gatherers to want to somehow rescue someone. Do you feel this lady needs to be rescued?

I do have an observation. I have now dated a few of the ladies that are part of our little neighborhood and find them to be very nice people. In fact, I would go so far as to say that they are the kind I might get emotionally involved with, that is, if I didn't believe strongly in the rule, Don't get emotionally involved with a SP. The ladies I have dated that I met on this forum are a cut above, that is for sure.

There is a book that changed my life a while back. In fact, I have read it several times in my life. The book is Passage: Predictable Crises in Adult Life by Gail Sheehy. I first read it in my 20's when I was facing a crisis of self identity and then again in my mid 30's when I realized I was about half way through life but not half way through the goals of my life. I read it in my 40's when I was going through my second childhood and in my 50's while going through my most recent divorce. Now that I am North of 60 I may need to read it again. I seem to be making some questionable choices and Sheehy seems to be good at helping me at least understand things, even if I don't do anything about it.

In the mean time, I think I am swearing off of BP girls. It's just a lot of work to filter through the shit. And I am frustrated with the SW scene. The two or three girls I wish I could meet almost daily just don't keep regular hours. And my old favorite SW got knocked off my list when she cleaned out my wallet while giving me really great head. USASG, at least in our area of the world, seems to be a solid place to meet SP's. They are top notch. I could see where that might lead to an emotional connection with someone.

C3.Thanks Camera3 for yours and others in PM who also passed on some words of wisdom. I have made the decision to just move on because I am basically married to an otherwise wonderful woman. Like so many of us forum members we do this because the SO is just not into sex and no amount of special attention we may give them still will not like sex.

Just Cruzin
05-01-14, 12:23
I can relate to the discussion, but another point to make is that beside the sex end of it, some of these women are very good listeners and a person may express things that they would not express to their SO. Sort of a therapy session to verbally get things out of your system. Many aspects, but in the end, it is two worlds that shall never collide. All the best with your path forward.

Just a thought.

JC.


Thanks Camera3 for yours and others in PM who also passed on some words of wisdom. I have made the decision to just move on because I am basically married to an otherwise wonderful woman. Like so many of us forum members we do this because the SO is just not into sex and no amount of special attention we may give them still will not like sex.

Camera3
05-01-14, 13:32
JC,

You are on target. When I think of the legendary SP's, the ones that come to mind are the ones that have figured this out. But, I have to ad, and maybe it is because I can play a good father (or grandfather) figure, I find that sometimes I am the one empathetically listening. And that is a good thing. Of course, it was one of those SP's that said she appreciated that I listened to her that picked my pocket. So, yeah, two worlds. Or as the old Irishman lifted his drink said, To our wives and girl friends. May they never meet.

C3.


I can relate to the discussion, but another point to make is that beside the sex end of it, some of these women are very good listeners and a person may express things that they would not express to their SO. Irishman Sort of a therapy session to verbally get things out of your system. Many aspects, but in the end, it is two worlds that shall never collide. All the best with your path forward.

Just a thought.

JC.

JitsuPlayer71
09-25-14, 11:55
Whats the latest on the unlocked GSM phones? Anyone know the best deal out there in 2014? I'm thinking a cheap smartphone would be nice for texting. No I'd is the way to fly, I need to get one ASAP.

Camera3
09-26-14, 12:31
TrackPhone is running a special on a couple of their smart phones for 20 bucks. I am thinking about replacing my flip phone because it is such a pain in the ass for texting and so many of these young chicks just don't talk on the phone.

http://www.tracfone-orders.com/bpdirect/tracfone/Start.do?action=view&zip=32803&locale=en&siteType=TR&market=COGSM5&gotoPhonelist=true&AID=&__utma=53697699.265492801.1411748976.1411748976.1411748976.1&__utmb=53697699.3.9.1411748985162&__utmc=53697699&__utmx=-&__utmz=53697699.1411748976.1.1.utmcsr=IMM|utmccn=DR|utmcmd=cpc|utmctr=%28not%20provided%29&__utmv=-&__utmk=46271459

C3.


Whats the latest on the unlocked GSM phones? Anyone know the best deal out there in 2014? I'm thinking a cheap smartphone would be nice for texting. No I'd is the way to fly, I need to get one ASAP.

JitsuPlayer71
09-26-14, 20:12
TrackPhone is running a special on a couple of their smart phones for 20 bucks. I am thinking about replacing my flip phone because it is such a pain in the ass for texting and so many of these young chicks just don't talk on the phone.

http://www.tracfone-orders.com/bpdirect/tracfone/Start.do?action=view&zip=32803&locale=en&siteType=TR&market=COGSM5&gotoPhonelist=true&AID=&__utma=53697699.265492801.1411748976.1411748976.1411748976.1&__utmb=53697699.3.9.1411748985162&__utmc=53697699&__utmx=-&__utmz=53697699.1411748976.1.1.utmcsr=IMM|utmccn=DR|utmcmd=cpc|utmctr=%28not%20provided%29&__utmv=-&__utmk=46271459

C3.Thanks, I was thinking the same thing too. PITA to text with the flip, So it looks like the minutes roll over as long as the phone is active, how much will does the service run on those to keep it active? I didn't see any prices for that.

WilliamMstrs
09-26-14, 20:17
TrackPhone is running a special on a couple of their smart phones for 20 bucks. I am thinking about replacing my flip phone because it is such a pain in the ass for texting and so many of these young chicks just don't talk on the phone.

http://www.tracfone-orders.com/bpdirect/tracfone/Start.do?action=view&zip=32803&locale=en&siteType=TR&market=COGSM5&gotoPhonelist=true&AID=&__utma=53697699.265492801.1411748976.1411748976.1411748976.1&__utmb=53697699.3.9.1411748985162&__utmc=53697699&__utmx=-&__utmz=53697699.1411748976.1.1.utmcsr=IMM|utmccn=DR|utmcmd=cpc|utmctr=%28not%20provided%29&__utmv=-&__utmk=46271459

C3.Tracphone is the go to. I can't text using the old keypad, so my choice starts on the MotoGo, that has a built in keyboard. These guys sell for 10.00 every two or three weeks in Family Dollar and they have triple minutes. The smartphones can go for 30.00 in the same place. If bargain hunting they also have a 5. 00 Samsung that does a competent job of texting with the old keypad. For 5. 00 I run it down, and discard it.

I will stress that the place to use is Family Dollar as they have the cheapest prices, and the attendants never ask the silly questions you get elsewhere.

SC James
09-26-14, 20:47
Tracphone is the go to. I can't text using the old keypad, so my choice starts on the MotoGo, that has a built in keyboard. These guys sell for 10.00 every two or three weeks in Family Dollar and they have triple minutes. The smartphones can go for 30.00 in the same place. If bargain hunting they also have a 5. 00 Samsung that does a competent job of texting with the old keypad. For 5. 00 I run it down, and discard it.

I will stress that the place to use is Family Dollar as they have the cheapest prices, and the attendants never ask the silly questions you get elsewhere.Great advice and just what I need. Been out of action for a while and need to be smarter about things, starting with the phone. Thanks!

JitsuPlayer71
09-27-14, 08:32
Something else to think about guys. If you have an Iphone turn off location services, you don't need your wife doing a "find my Iphone" on you. Also I have Sprint, the data service is mediocre but it's cheap and does the job, the thing I like about Sprint is there is nowhere that you can download and read your old text messages, no cloud storage at all. I've been through this as I had to spy on my sons iphone before. There was one way to do it, I had to pay for a service that downloaded his icloud info every day and I was able to see his texts on a daily basis, until he turned Icloud off. I know others like Verizon store texts so your wife can get to that data.

RollingOrlando
12-03-14, 21:24
A warm summer morning at 4:30 was my idea of a good time to hit the loop for some sightseeing. Not 20 minute into my drive a damsel in distress waived me down on some back street off the loop. The good guy that I am, I stopped to offer assistance. The ride only lasted about 30 minutes and it was eventful.

Now, to me, the worst part is dropping off because the damsels seem to get freaky sometimes and also they want to be dropped in the damnedest places. I only drive where I feel cool. This damsel wanted to be dropped at the RaceTrac, a well lit place which shadow Mongers like me hate. The damsel started freaking out for at least 5 full minutes thinking that she was missing something. This is as I am sitting in this well lit parking lot with a hobo starring at me through the windshield. I actually got pissed and ordered her out and she did so. I went back to my lair and crashed.

I awoke to my real world lady seeking to use my car for some reason. Sleepy eyed & groggy I leapt to my feet and went to do a CSI check on my car prior to her leaving. To my total surprise I found a very small tank top between the door and the seat on the passenger side. Wrapped up in the top was a drug pipe and cell phone. I say to myself; now I know why she was freaking out! I grabbed it and like Houdini, I just made it disappear into my waistband.

Lesson: Do a CSI search your car if some strange damsel finds her way into your giving heart. I don't do drugs but I wouldn't be able to convince uncle LEO if he were to find that pipe during a wellness check on the side of the road.

Dank Dabs 42
01-30-17, 17:39
Just thought of this one.

A small lock box that fits under the seat to hold things that you don't want to walk away. Wives/GF have a habit of leaving personal items behind to mark their territory, so to speak.

Placing those items into a lock box ensures that they will still be there when you get home. Further reassuring the SO that no was in the car with you.

You can claim its for your wallet while at the worksite or other place that you might want to keep your wallet. (this is what you tell the SO)

This can actually apply to many other situations while mongering.Or you could just put the stuff in your trunk and you don't have to tell your wife anything or buy a box.

Camera3
02-01-17, 13:12
Thanks, I was thinking the same thing too. PITA to text with the flip, So it looks like the minutes roll over as long as the phone is active, how much will does the service run on those to keep it active? I didn't see any prices for that.So, my old pain in the ass flip phone refuses to die. It is now four years old and still working my. I just had to buy a card and TracFone has a promotion going. A 200 minute card is 40 bucks, double minutes and add another 40 for the promotion. Total 440 minutes for 40 bucks. About 9 cents a minute and since most texts are a half minute mute that is cheap.

I keep meaning to try to understand Google phone but can't find a YouTube step by step on how to hide a hobby from she who snores in my bed.

C3.

HornyToad123
06-15-17, 22:33
Hi,

Unfortunately my marriage has stagnated and my wife refuses to have sex with me. Which I don't mind actually, I'm tired of having sex with her anyways. I'm like Al Bundy. But like other marriages we stay together because it would be too hard for the kids. I'm really new to this so I would really appreciate some help. My main concern is safety, I do not want to get robbed (or killed), I just want to do what's legal in other countries and the state of Nevada. Have a good time but not without the strings of a relationship.

Are there any recommendations for newcomers? Also, what's the rules for half hour vs full hour? Stupid question, but are you limited to "relief" just once or multiple times within that hour? Sorry I am a newb. I guess that would be provider dependent but if there's a general rule do let me know.

Feel free to PM if needed.

Thank you and stay safe.

JohnBen227
06-15-17, 23:32
I have been unable to get back into the hobby due to the damn 'find your iphone'. My whole family is on it and can't turn it off. I also had to be careful as there was a strong doubt due to texts in the past and got busted at my house. So, I have took a sabbatical for a year now. I had great regulars in the hobby like Dallas and pleasant memories with many providers as good friends. Anyway, there is no sex or spiciness in my marriage and want to get back in the hobby. At this point, I can only do car dates and when I travel on business away from orlando. I can't stay at hotel in Orlando due to the iPhone app. I would appreciate suggestions from my friends in the group.

Iceman407
06-16-17, 00:15
I have been unable to get back into the hobby due to the damn 'find your iphone'. My whole family is on it and can't turn it off. I also had to be careful as there was a strong doubt due to texts in the past and got busted at my house. So, I have took a sabbatical for a year now. I had great regulars in the hobby like Dallas and pleasant memories with many providers as good friends. Anyway, there is no sex or spiciness in my marriage and want to get back in the hobby. At this point, I can only do car dates and when I travel on business away from orlando. I can't stay at hotel in Orlando due to the iPhone app. I would appreciate suggestions from my friends in the group.Get a burner and leave your phone home by accident.

InterWebz
06-16-17, 06:29
I have been unable to get back into the hobby due to the damn 'find your iphone'. My whole family is on it and can't turn it off. I also had to be careful as there was a strong doubt due to texts in the past and got busted at my house. So, I have took a sabbatical for a year now. I had great regulars in the hobby like Dallas and pleasant memories with many providers as good friends. Anyway, there is no sex or spiciness in my marriage and want to get back in the hobby. At this point, I can only do car dates and when I travel on business away from orlando. I can't stay at hotel in Orlando due to the iPhone app. I would appreciate suggestions from my friends in the group.In the past you could jailbreak an iPhone and use a location faker. Haven't had to jailbreak a device in ages, but always worked in the past. Good luck.

Camera3
06-16-17, 09:26
Hi,

Unfortunately my marriage has stagnated and my wife refuses to have sex with me. Which I don't mind actually, I'm tired of having sex with her anyways. I'm like Al Bundy. But like other marriages we stay together because it would be too hard for the kids. I'm really new to this so I would really appreciate some help. My main concern is safety, I do not want to get robbed (or killed), I just want to do what's legal in other countries and the state of Nevada. Have a good time but not without the strings of a relationship.

Are there any recommendations for newcomers? Also, what's the rules for half hour vs full hour? Stupid question, but are you limited to "relief" just once or multiple times within that hour? Sorry I am a newb. I guess that would be provider dependent but if there's a general rule do let me know.

Feel free to PM if needed.

Thank you and stay safe.HT,

Welcome to the best fuckin' literary club in the whole US of A, including Montana and most of Mississippi. You will find a good group of guys willing to share intel (if you earn that right), a few dicks who will give you a hard time and also give you fake information, a few ladies who are actually pretty cool, a 14 year old kid who sits in the dark in his bedroom wanking while watching his hot MILF neighbor do her lawn work in a teeny bikini and a few of Metro Orlando's finest with permanent donut powder in their five-o'clock shadow.

Sorry about your marriage. Good for you to do the right thing by her and the kids. But a man's got to do what a man's got to do.

Here are some thoughts, and a few you may want to consider are rules of the road.

How do you stay safe? Don't see anyone who is not reviewed. Look for guys on here with a good record, read about their adventures and act on that intel. I have identified four guys on this forum with the same general taste in women as me. If they review a girl favorably I know I will like her, too. Maybe later you can venture out, but, frankly, I have been in the hobby a pretty long time and seldom TOFTT. There is probably a good 20 or so ladies that are positively reviewed often on here at any given time. One of them is bound to be the girl of your dreams.

Which brings us to how a new guy gets his first or second date. You need to find a couple ladies who will see a new guy and then become your source for referrals to the ladies of your dreams. Pick these ladies wisely as there are some who won't give referrals (which makes them a waste of your valuable time and money) and there are a few that other ladies won't cooperate with because, believe it or not, many of these ladies know each other. Also, write reviews of all the chicks you date. If you can get one to thank you on line in the forum that pretty much makes you golden.

About what is legal in other countries and Nevada. Trust me, as a seasoned road warrior who practices the hobby all over this and other lands, you will never find what is in other countries, legal or illegal, and what is legal in Nevada is ridiculously expensive and totally lame. If you want to have great sex with a hooker in Nevada you still need to do it just like here, which is illegal.

About half hours and hours. OK. Here is sorta the rule of thumb. First, what can you do physically? If you are a one-shot and done kinda guy then go for the half hour. From what I hear from ladies in the biz, most guys can get it done in a half hour with some time to spare. An hour-long appointment usually means you have the right to go for a second pop. Not always. Just usually. Also, if you want to fuck and then talk for a while, then the hour is your best bet for that. Just pick a lady that can actually talk. Or can listen to you talk. It actually can be good therapy.

You didn't ask about a quick visit, which some ladies do offer. A QV can mean one of two things. Some ladies consider a QV as a fifteen minute quicky. Others think it is a BJ. You have to ask, but, frankly, I have never done a QV. Just my preference. But I am seeing it offered more than used to be.

Here is the most important rule of all, especially for a guy with a marriage issue. Don't fall in love. You will probably meet ladies who are better looking than you wife and no matter how good the sex ever was in your marriage, it will be better in this hobby. And you may meet ladies that are easy to talk to, you may take them on real dates (like, out to eat or shopping). That is fine. But if you ever entertain leaving your wife and kids and running off to Tahiti with a young hottie with a bitchin' body, go take a cold shower or get with some buddies and go deep sea fishing and get drunk or something else that will get your mind away from something that will ruin your life forever.

This is a fun hobby.

Just one man's opinion.

C3.

JohnBen227
06-16-17, 15:03
You are a wise man c3.


HT,

Welcome to the best fuckin' literary club in the whole US of A, including Montana and most of Mississippi. You will find a good group of guys willing to share intel (if you earn that right), a few dicks who will give you a hard time and also give you fake information, a few ladies who are actually pretty cool, a 14 year old kid who sits in the dark in his bedroom wanking while watching his hot MILF neighbor do her lawn work in a teeny bikini and a few of Metro Orlando's finest with permanent donut powder in their five-o'clock shadow.

Sorry about your marriage. Good for you to do the right thing by her and the kids. But a man's got to do what a man's got to do.

Here are some thoughts, and a few you may want to consider are rules of the road.

How do you stay safe? Don't see anyone who is not reviewed. Look for guys on here with a good record, read about their adventures and act on that intel. I have identified four guys on this forum with the same general taste in women as me. If they review a girl favorably I know I will like her, too. Maybe later you can venture out, but, frankly, I have been in the hobby a pretty long time and seldom TOFTT. There is probably a good 20 or so ladies that are positively reviewed often on here at any given time. One of them is bound to be the girl of your dreams.

Which brings us to how a new guy gets his first or second date. You need to find a couple ladies who will see a new guy and then become your source for referrals to the ladies of your dreams. Pick these ladies wisely as there are some who won't give referrals (which makes them a waste of your valuable time and money) and there are a few that other ladies won't cooperate with because, believe it or not, many of these ladies know each other. Also, write reviews of all the chicks you date. If you can get one to thank you on line in the forum that pretty much makes you golden.

About what is legal in other countries and Nevada. Trust me, as a seasoned road warrior who practices the hobby all over this and other lands, you will never find what is in other countries, legal or illegal, and what is legal in Nevada is ridiculously expensive and totally lame. If you want to have great sex with a hooker in Nevada you still need to do it just like here, which is illegal.

About half hours and hours. OK. Here is sorta the rule of thumb. First, what can you do physically? If you are a one-shot and done kinda guy then go for the half hour. From what I hear from ladies in the biz, most guys can get it done in a half hour with some time to spare. An hour-long appointment usually means you have the right to go for a second pop. Not always. Just usually. Also, if you want to fuck and then talk for a while, then the hour is your best bet for that. Just pick a lady that can actually talk. Or can listen to you talk. It actually can be good therapy.

You didn't ask about a quick visit, which some ladies do offer. A QV can mean one of two things. Some ladies consider a QV as a fifteen minute quicky. Others think it is a BJ. You have to ask, but, frankly, I have never done a QV. Just my preference. But I am seeing it offered more than used to be.

Here is the most important rule of all, especially for a guy with a marriage issue. Don't fall in love. You will probably meet ladies who are better looking than you wife and no matter how good the sex ever was in your marriage, it will be better in this hobby. And you may meet ladies that are easy to talk to, you may take them on real dates (like, out to eat or shopping). That is fine. But if you ever entertain leaving your wife and kids and running off to Tahiti with a young hottie with a bitchin' body, go take a cold shower or get with some buddies and go deep sea fishing and get drunk or something else that will get your mind away from something that will ruin your life forever.

This is a fun hobby.

Just one man's opinion.

C3.

Camera3
06-16-17, 21:06
You are a wise man c3.thank you for the kind words.

Just made a lotta stupid mistakes. I try not to make the same ones twice.

C3.

RoadWarrior2K
06-17-17, 00:38
Here is the most important rule of all, especially for a guy with a marriage issue. Don't fall in love. You will probably meet ladies who are better looking than you wife and no matter how good the sex ever was in your marriage, it will be better in this hobby. And you may meet ladies that are easy to talk to, you may take them on real dates (like, out to eat or shopping). That is fine. But if you ever entertain leaving your wife and kids and running off to Tahiti with a young hottie with a bitchin' body, go take a cold shower or get with some buddies and go deep sea fishing and get drunk or something else that will get your mind away from something that will ruin your life forever.

This is a fun hobby.

Just one man's opinion.

C3.Couldn't have said it better, C3. Your last paragraph is the golden rule.

TRowePrice
06-17-17, 01:04
I have been unable to get back into the hobby due to the damn 'find your iphone'. My whole family is on it and can't turn it off. I also had to be careful as there was a strong doubt due to texts in the past and got busted at my house. So, I have took a sabbatical for a year now. I had great regulars in the hobby like Dallas and pleasant memories with many providers as good friends. Anyway, there is no sex or spiciness in my marriage and want to get back in the hobby. At this point, I can only do car dates and when I travel on business away from orlando. I can't stay at hotel in Orlando due to the iPhone app. I would appreciate suggestions from my friends in the group.I would switch from the find my iphone app to "Find Friends". Trust me on this one. I run 2 iphones, one is an older model 5's and I have a newer 7. The 5's is strictly my burner phone with text apps, pics, numbers saved, proxy server etc. It follows the golden rule, don't use your main phone. When I play I use the 5's.

Sometimes I can pop the SIM card from my 7 into my 5's or shared my location from another device.

Or you can make the switch to android but the find my iphone app will suck. Like taking a day off and leaving your phone at work so you can go play.

HornyToad123
06-17-17, 22:31
Thank you for full, in depth response. You pretty much answered all of my questions. Thanks!

I went ahead and scheduled a morning date with one of the more well reviewed providers here. I will give out more detail once the date is over.

Technically this would be my first extramarital affair (just typing it made me cringe) after almost 15 years of marriage. It feels much better to think of it as a more of business transaction, which is pretty much what it is.


HT,

Welcome to the best fuckin' literary club in the whole US of A, including Montana and most of Mississippi. You will find a good group of guys willing to share intel (if you earn that right), a few dicks who will give you a hard time and also give you fake information, a few ladies who are actually pretty cool, a 14 year old kid who sits in the dark in his bedroom wanking while watching his hot MILF neighbor do her lawn work in a teeny bikini and a few of Metro Orlando's finest with permanent donut powder in their five-o'clock shadow.

Sorry about your marriage. Good for you to do the right thing by her and the kids. But a man's got to do what a man's got to do.

Here are some thoughts, and a few you may want to consider are rules of the road.

How do you stay safe? Don't see anyone who is not reviewed. Look for guys on here with a good record, read about their adventures and act on that intel. I have identified four guys on this forum with the same general taste in women as me. If they review a girl favorably I know I will like her, too. Maybe later you can venture out, but, frankly, I have been in the hobby a pretty long time and seldom TOFTT. There is probably a good 20 or so ladies that are positively reviewed often on here at any given time. One of them is bound to be the girl of your dreams.

Which brings us to how a new guy gets his first or second date. You need to find a couple ladies who will see a new guy and then become your source for referrals to the ladies of your dreams. Pick these ladies wisely as there are some who won't give referrals (which makes them a waste of your valuable time and money) and there are a few that other ladies won't cooperate with because, believe it or not, many of these ladies know each other. Also, write reviews of all the chicks you date. If you can get one to thank you on line in the forum that pretty much makes you golden.

About what is legal in other countries and Nevada. Trust me, as a seasoned road warrior who practices the hobby all over this and other lands, you will never find what is in other countries, legal or illegal, and what is legal in Nevada is ridiculously expensive and totally lame. If you want to have great sex with a hooker in Nevada you still need to do it just like here, which is illegal.

About half hours and hours. OK. Here is sorta the rule of thumb. First, what can you do physically? If you are a one-shot and done kinda guy then go for the half hour. From what I hear from ladies in the biz, most guys can get it done in a half hour with some time to spare. An hour-long appointment usually means you have the right to go for a second pop. Not always. Just usually. Also, if you want to fuck and then talk for a while, then the hour is your best bet for that. Just pick a lady that can actually talk. Or can listen to you talk. It actually can be good therapy.

You didn't ask about a quick visit, which some ladies do offer. A QV can mean one of two things. Some ladies consider a QV as a fifteen minute quicky. Others think it is a BJ. You have to ask, but, frankly, I have never done a QV. Just my preference. But I am seeing it offered more than used to be.

Here is the most important rule of all, especially for a guy with a marriage issue. Don't fall in love. You will probably meet ladies who are better looking than you wife and no matter how good the sex ever was in your marriage, it will be better in this hobby. And you may meet ladies that are easy to talk to, you may take them on real dates (like, out to eat or shopping). That is fine. But if you ever entertain leaving your wife and kids and running off to Tahiti with a young hottie with a bitchin' body, go take a cold shower or get with some buddies and go deep sea fishing and get drunk or something else that will get your mind away from something that will ruin your life forever.

This is a fun hobby.

Just one man's opinion.

C3.

Camera3
06-18-17, 14:59
Thank you for full, in depth response. You pretty much answered all of my questions. Thanks!

I went ahead and scheduled a morning date with one of the more well reviewed providers here. I will give out more detail once the date is over.

Technically this would be my first extramarital affair (just typing it made me cringe) after almost 15 years of marriage. It feels much better to think of it as a more of business transaction, which is pretty much what it is.You may want to tell the lucky lady that this is your first venture after 15 years of marriage and she should be gentle. You may find you get some mileage from that. Sex with a pro means no game playing, you do not have to wonder if you are going to get lucky. Just be a nice guy and be prepared to have the best sex in your life and don't be surprised if you walk kinda wobbly afterwards.

Have fun, man. You are about to have the ride of your life.

C3.

RoadWarrior2K
06-19-17, 00:38
Thank you for full, in depth response. You pretty much answered all of my questions. Thanks!

I went ahead and scheduled a morning date with one of the more well reviewed providers here. I will give out more detail once the date is over.

Technically this would be my first extramarital affair (just typing it made me cringe) after almost 15 years of marriage. It feels much better to think of it as a more of business transaction, which is pretty much what it is.That's why they say it's a business to do pleasure with you.

Swim999
06-19-17, 03:09
Couldn't have said it better, C3. Your last paragraph is the golden rule.C3 is a voice of sanity in a sea of conflicting BS.

It helps to think of your encounters as "deals". Create a deal and stick to the deal. Don't get side tracked by smoke and mirrors or that persistent voice below your belt. Stick to the deal. Also, be willing to walk. If things don't look, feel or smell right, walk away. That empowers you more than you know. I've done it a few times and regret a few that I didn't. A book can be written on the topic of reducing your risk and avoid wasting your time and money, but that is how you need to go about your business. Honestly, there is no short cut to RTFF. No way around it. The forum is what it is. This whole thing covers a complex set of variables across wide range of issues. There is no way to build a concensus on everything. Not everyone has the same interests or mongers the same way. There is a wide range of information posted when it comes to managing risk. Some guys post things that won't fit what you are after. They may not be wrong, but their contribution may not apply to you and your circumstances. Also, it is fair to say that I don't agree with everything I read in the forum, even when it's within the scope of how I operate. It is my opinion that some members are simply uninformed but don't know it and post some ridiculous shit. So, consider the context of who is posting what you read and exercise your own judgement.

HornyToad123
06-19-17, 19:54
So the appt I had with the well reviewed provider was cancelled because she ended up going on her vacation 1 day earlier. She sounded very cool though, looking forward to when she gets back.

MrGoldgerg
06-20-17, 00:39
Does the same apply to non-pros, I. E. Girls met via Ashley, or Dating site or FetLife? I had a long term very torrid, physical relationship where I know there were feelings, particularly hers who was using her sex appeal lto reel me in, I assume looking to lock up a guy before she's 45. That guy was never intended to be me (at least that's what she said) but sex started, addiction to each other's company and it blossomed into a full-blown affair.

I'm trying to step away and thinking that a more complete focus on mongering will allow me to stop thinking about it. I've been avoiding her, but it's not easy. I have some great pics, videos etc that I use for myself. I think the hobby will be far far far less expensive.

I was reading another monger board and one of the experts there said. You will fall in love. You must recognize it, and stop, no matter how much it kills you. This one had an international focus and the issue there is even some of us who do pretty well with good looking milfs are suddenly going to be with girls half our age and perfect little bodies and sooner or later one of them will get to you. Back out immediately when this happens.

I've dabbled in mongering for 20+ years but never really latched onto the hobby as a means of relieving my stress, hopefully more than once a week. I wish I'd found this site sooner.


C3 is a voice of sanity in a sea of conflicting BS.

It helps to think of your encounters as "deals". Create a deal and stick to the deal. Don't get side tracked by smoke and mirrors or that persistent voice below your belt. Stick to the deal. Also, be willing to walk. If things don't look, feel or smell right, walk away. That empowers you more than you know. I've done it a few times and regret a few that I didn't. A book can be written on the topic of reducing your risk and avoid wasting your time and money, but that is how you need to go about your business. Honestly, there is no short cut to RTFF. No way around it. The forum is what it is. This whole thing covers a complex set of variables across wide range of issues. There is no way to build a concensus on everything. Not everyone has the same interests or mongers the same way. There is a wide range of information posted when it comes to managing risk. Some guys post things that won't fit what you are after. They may not be wrong, but their contribution may not apply to you and your circumstances. Also, it is fair to say that I don't agree with everything I read in the forum, even when it's within the scope of how I operate. It is my opinion that some members are simply uninformed but don't know it and post some ridiculous shit. So, consider the context of who is posting what you read and exercise your own judgement.

Swim999
06-20-17, 06:01
So the appt I had with the well reviewed provider was cancelled because she ended up going on her vacation 1 day earlier. She sounded very cool though, looking forward to when she gets back.Many mongers venture out with a back up plan scheduled an hour after the primary appointment with a new chick. If you get stiffed, you roll with the back up. There are pro and cons to this tactic. Some guys will tell you it's the only way to roll. It does increase the odds that you'll get laid. But if you do your due diligence and RTFF and respectfully PM some members of the forum who have reviewed your lady of interest, you have a better chance of making an informed choice and seeing someone reliable in the first place. Also, keep in mind that your backup is actually expecting you. If you cancel on short notice, or just pull a no show, some won't give you another shot. I can't say I blame them. The back up plan also does not sit well with my concept of treating the Escorts I see with mutual respect. It is my opinion that in the long run, that pays off ten fold. I tend to repeat with ladies who give me great service and rarely get stiffed, so the back up plan is not common practice for me.

Harry Plopper
07-15-17, 09:55
Very well said and great advice. Been in the hobby for 15 years and married for 23 years and USASG has been a great source.


HT,

Welcome to the best fuckin' literary club in the whole US of A, including Montana and most of Mississippi. You will find a good group of guys willing to share intel (if you earn that right), a few dicks who will give you a hard time and also give you fake information, a few ladies who are actually pretty cool, a 14 year old kid who sits in the dark in his bedroom wanking while watching his hot MILF neighbor do her lawn work in a teeny bikini and a few of Metro Orlando's finest with permanent donut powder in their five-o'clock shadow.

Sorry about your marriage. Good for you to do the right thing by her and the kids. But a man's got to do what a man's got to do.

Here are some thoughts, and a few you may want to consider are rules of the road.

How do you stay safe? Don't see anyone who is not reviewed. Look for guys on here with a good record, read about their adventures and act on that intel. I have identified four guys on this forum with the same general taste in women as me. If they review a girl favorably I know I will like her, too. Maybe later you can venture out, but, frankly, I have been in the hobby a pretty long time and seldom TOFTT. There is probably a good 20 or so ladies that are positively reviewed often on here at any given time. One of them is bound to be the girl of your dreams.

Which brings us to how a new guy gets his first or second date. You need to find a couple ladies who will see a new guy and then become your source for referrals to the ladies of your dreams. Pick these ladies wisely as there are some who won't give referrals (which makes them a waste of your valuable time and money) and there are a few that other ladies won't cooperate with because, believe it or not, many of these ladies know each other. Also, write reviews of all the chicks you date. If you can get one to thank you on line in the forum that pretty much makes you golden.

About what is legal in other countries and Nevada. Trust me, as a seasoned road warrior who practices the hobby all over this and other lands, you will never find what is in other countries, legal or illegal, and what is legal in Nevada is ridiculously expensive and totally lame. If you want to have great sex with a hooker in Nevada you still need to do it just like here, which is illegal.

About half hours and hours. OK. Here is sorta the rule of thumb. First, what can you do physically? If you are a one-shot and done kinda guy then go for the half hour. From what I hear from ladies in the biz, most guys can get it done in a half hour with some time to spare. An hour-long appointment usually means you have the right to go for a second pop. Not always. Just usually. Also, if you want to fuck and then talk for a while, then the hour is your best bet for that. Just pick a lady that can actually talk. Or can listen to you talk. It actually can be good therapy.

You didn't ask about a quick visit, which some ladies do offer. A QV can mean one of two things. Some ladies consider a QV as a fifteen minute quicky. Others think it is a BJ. You have to ask, but, frankly, I have never done a QV. Just my preference. But I am seeing it offered more than used to be.

Here is the most important rule of all, especially for a guy with a marriage issue. Don't fall in love. You will probably meet ladies who are better looking than you wife and no matter how good the sex ever was in your marriage, it will be better in this hobby. And you may meet ladies that are easy to talk to, you may take them on real dates (like, out to eat or shopping). That is fine. But if you ever entertain leaving your wife and kids and running off to Tahiti with a young hottie with a bitchin' body, go take a cold shower or get with some buddies and go deep sea fishing and get drunk or something else that will get your mind away from something that will ruin your life forever.

This is a fun hobby.

Just one man's opinion.

C3.

Big Surf
07-17-17, 20:36
Hi all. I'm curious how you fellow married gentlemen finance this hobby and how you manage to keep it undisclosed. I feel like I'd partake more often if I had a better system of getting my hands on cash without notice. Our finances are shared and she does a pretty good job of tracking our dollars. One of her better qualities is her knack for budgeting and keeping our money in line. Just curious if anyone else has to get creative to fund their extracurricular activities.

HornyToad123
07-17-17, 20:48
Can someone point me in the direction of a short fat ass Latina with brown / tan skin? Or is that too much to ask for? LOL.

I am VERY new to this game, and I like what I see so far on the USA Adult classifieds but wondering if something I'm specifically looking for exists. Surely they must! This is Orlando after all.

Fulton Guy
07-17-17, 22:32
I manage our finances, but we discuss significant outlays before we jointly approve them.

As far as the hobby goes, I realize I'm incredibly lucky as the conversation generally goes like this: "Hey, babe. Mind if I go out and pay for some strange tonight? It's been a while since I've had foreign pussy. " Her response is generally: "Sure thing! Have fun!

Early-ish in our marriage, one of my ex-gfs came to visit and the three of us went out to dinner together after which my ex-gf and I went to a hotel (got to respect the homestead). Upon dropping my wife off at home, she looked at my ex and said, "Make sure you fuck him good tonight. ".

She's a keeper.


Hi all. I'm curious how you fellow married gentlemen finance this hobby and how you manage to keep it undisclosed. I feel like I'd partake more often if I had a better system of getting my hands on cash without notice. Our finances are shared and she does a pretty good job of tracking our dollars. One of her better qualities is her knack for budgeting and keeping our money in line. Just curious if anyone else has to get creative to fund their extracurricular activities.

OrlFun
07-17-17, 22:35
Get small amounts of cash back with your debit card everytime you buy something at a store. This works great for me as it generally goes unnoticed since it's buried in the grocery and drugstore purchases. Takes a little time and several visits but really covers your tracks!


Hi all. I'm curious how you fellow married gentlemen finance this hobby and how you manage to keep it undisclosed. I feel like I'd partake more often if I had a better system of getting my hands on cash without notice. Our finances are shared and she does a pretty good job of tracking our dollars. One of her better qualities is her knack for budgeting and keeping our money in line. Just curious if anyone else has to get creative to fund their extracurricular activities.

PompanoGuy
07-17-17, 22:49
I manage our finances, but we discuss significant outlays before we jointly approve them.
My ex and I used to rush to spend my paychecks. One day she came home with a $1200 pair of Louboutin shoes. The next day I went out and bought a two seat BMW convertible for a family of three. At that point, we pretty much knew the marriage was over. She's still my best friend though.

Camera3
07-18-17, 08:53
Can someone point me in the direction of a short fat ass Latina with brown / tan skin? Or is that too much to ask for? LOL.

I am VERY new to this game, and I like what I see so far on the USA Adult classifieds but wondering if something I'm specifically looking for exists. Surely they must! This is Orlando after all.Read reviews on MarinaGFE. She may very well be what you are looking for, plus a genuine PSE.

C3.

MarinaGfe
07-30-17, 23:55
Read reviews on MarinaGFE. She may very well be what you are looking for, plus a genuine PSE.

C3.Bring tequila LOL.

MisterFixIt
08-04-17, 13:58
Hi all. I'm curious how you fellow married gentlemen finance this hobby and how you manage to keep it undisclosed. I feel like I'd partake more often if I had a better system of getting my hands on cash without notice. Our finances are shared and she does a pretty good job of tracking our dollars. One of her better qualities is her knack for budgeting and keeping our money in line. Just curious if anyone else has to get creative to fund their extracurricular activities.This time of year I generally take out large sums of money to pay for all of my Fantasy Football Leagues. Just saying.

RoadWarrior2K
08-04-17, 22:31
Hi all. I'm curious how you fellow married gentlemen finance this hobby and how you manage to keep it undisclosed. I feel like I'd partake more often if I had a better system of getting my hands on cash without notice. Our finances are shared and she does a pretty good job of tracking our dollars. One of her better qualities is her knack for budgeting and keeping our money in line. Just curious if anyone else has to get creative to fund their extracurricular activities.I'm nowhere near as lucky as Fulton Guy, but I sort of do what OrlFun does. I don't get cash back, but I budget more than I need, and like FG, I also manage the budget and pay all the bills. Each week the SO and I each have an amount of money to spend. I buy everything mostly with a cash rewards credit card, so this leaves about 90% of my weekly allotment for fun.

PronDragon
08-05-17, 14:14
I've read the forum for a long time and thought about venturing out but long story short my wife watches me like a hawk and then I have concerns about picking up a STD and how exactly to explain that (doesn't help that I haven't used a condom in 20 years heh). What do you guys do to deal with checking for STD's and what's the plan for if you catch one? Just fess up? Thanks!

HornyToad123
09-01-17, 21:30
I've read the forum for a long time and thought about venturing out but long story short my wife watches me like a hawk and then I have concerns about picking up a STD and how exactly to explain that (doesn't help that I haven't used a condom in 20 years heh). What do you guys do to deal with checking for STD's and what's the plan for if you catch one? Just fess up? Thanks!Use a condom. Wash dick. Rinse and repeat.

HornyToad123
09-01-17, 21:32
I've had two providers say to me that I'm much younger than their usual clients.

I find that hard to believe because I am 42 years old.

Is that really the case? Are the majority of you mongers old farts?

TittyManCam
09-02-17, 07:48
I've had two providers say to me that I'm much younger than their usual clients.

I find that hard to believe because I am 42 years old.

Is that really the case? Are the majority of you mongers old farts?Never posted here before as I'm not married but I am 34 and have been told by just about all the chics I've seen I'm on the younger side for sure. I'd say you're slightly under the average age to as most have told me their typical client is in his late 40's and above. They actually prefer that as some won't even see a guy my age.

TMC.

Zillow
09-02-17, 12:07
I've read the forum for a long time and thought about venturing out but long story short my wife watches me like a hawk and then I have concerns about picking up a STD and how exactly to explain that (doesn't help that I haven't used a condom in 20 years heh). What do you guys do to deal with checking for STD's and what's the plan for if you catch one? Just fess up? Thanks!In CA, I used free clinics to get STD screened. Those records will not get linked to your regular health care provider's records. The clinic can also prescribe treatment if you need it, assuming you got something curable.

LuvLargeCheeks
11-01-17, 23:41
Tough quitting this hobby, even with wife and kids. Maybe if some mongers keep driving up rates in orlando to 150 for 5 minutes LOL then I will be forced to quit.

JaySam42
11-02-17, 16:10
This time of year I generally take out large sums of money to pay for all of my Fantasy Football Leagues. Just saying.I usually get a little over at Walmart 20 or 30 something not that noticeable. It seems to work for me. Try it and see.

JaySam42
11-02-17, 16:46
I've had two providers say to me that I'm much younger than their usual clients.

I find that hard to believe because I am 42 years old.

Is that really the case? Are the majority of you mongers old farts?We are the same age and I get that all the time, especially in the massage parlors. I think most mongers are older.

DFun7744
12-08-17, 15:03
So getting back in and see a lot of references to rubmaps. I tried to sign up but no go with a cash card any other suggestions? Can't use any of my regular plastic or I'm a dead man!

Swim999
12-08-17, 15:48
We are the same age and I get that all the time, especially in the massage parlors. I think most mongers are older.I usually see UTR girls in their 20's. My go to girl I've been seeing over a year just turned 22. She told me she won't see young guys for many reasons. She prefers middle aged clients. I've consistently heard this from many escorts. Not only are the many mongers in that age range (they have the time and disposable income), it seems that the ladies prefer it that way for many reasons. More patient, better behaved and other qualities advantageous to escorts. I won't elaborate.

Swim999.

Hawkeye49
12-09-17, 13:09
I've had two providers say to me that I'm much younger than their usual clients.

I find that hard to believe because I am 42 years old.

Is that really the case? Are the majority of you mongers old farts?Why do you find it so hard to believe there are a lot of hobby guys out there older than you? And no we are not old farts as age is only a number. And as a matter of fact I'm a lot older than you and can still get two cups in an hour with a lady who knows how to please a man. I also have a friend in his mid 70's who's still very active. So don't be surprised because to us you're still wet behind the ears!

NoFear101
12-09-17, 15:59
I usually see UTR girls in their 20's. My go to girl I've been seeing over a year just turned 22. She told me she won't see young guys for many reasons. She prefers middle aged clients. I've consistently heard this from many escorts. Not only are the many mongers in that age range (they have the time and disposable income), it seems that the ladies prefer it that way for many reasons. More patient, better behaved and other qualities advantageous to escorts. I won't elaborate.

Swim999.That they only see older gents so their bf doesn't get jealous.

Miketastic69
12-09-17, 17:43
Why do you find it so hard to believe there are a lot of hobby guys out there older than you? And no we are not old farts as age is only a number. And as a matter of fact I'm a lot older than you and can still get two cups in an hour with a lady who knows how to please a man. I also have a friend in his mid 70's who's still very active. So don't be surprised because to us you're still wet behind the ears!To think younger mongers have the income and time and waning libido like us older hep cats. When I was under 45 I could get women on my charm looks and savvy. Now that I'm a gray Bush it don't work that way.

Miketastic69
12-09-17, 17:43
That they only see older gents so their bf doesn't get jealous.Older guys down flake and have more to lose.

Miketastic69
12-09-17, 18:56
That they only see older gents so their bf doesn't get jealous.It's easier for Management to toss a geezer like me vs a 20 or 30 something.

TungstenHP
12-11-17, 12:37
I've had two providers say to me that I'm much younger than their usual clients.

I find that hard to believe because I am 42 years old.

Is that really the case? Are the majority of you mongers old farts?I believe I'm in the smaller percentile age range of mongers out there.

I'm 27.

A lot of the younger providers like that I'm closer to their age so it feels more like a BF thing; but at the same time the older providers see me as a baby hahah, some have even refused service because I'm too young.

PronDragon
01-12-18, 23:22
I see all these posts about how "I came twice" or "I fucked that girl three times in a day". How often are you guys getting off? Just (oddly?) curious cause I know I have a hard time after doing it once but I normally have sex every day so maybe that's the difference. Just curious cause it sounds like it would be awesome to go a few rounds in one session.

TungstenHP
01-13-18, 08:05
I see all these posts about how "I came twice" or "I fucked that girl three times in a day". How often are you guys getting off? Just (oddly?) curious cause I know I have a hard time after doing it once but I normally have sex every day so maybe that's the difference. Just curious cause it sounds like it would be awesome to go a few rounds in one session.Got to take some off those reports with a grain of salt; many guys have egos bigger than their sex drive.

LagerBierGood
03-09-18, 12:14
I see all these posts about how "I came twice" or "I fucked that girl three times in a day". How often are you guys getting off? Just (oddly?) curious cause I know I have a hard time after doing it once but I normally have sex every day so maybe that's the difference. Just curious cause it sounds like it would be awesome to go a few rounds in one session.Lots of herbs and vitamins and supplements out there to help boost your drive. Exercise of course!!

Rather than getting off multiple times I prefer a larger load, the orgasm is way better and you will feel way more satisfied.

This site has some good reading, http://www.biggerloads.com/.

TRowePrice
03-12-18, 21:06
I see all these posts about how "I came twice" or "I fucked that girl three times in a day". How often are you guys getting off? Just (oddly?) curious cause I know I have a hard time after doing it once but I normally have sex every day so maybe that's the difference. Just curious cause it sounds like it would be awesome to go a few rounds in one session.Try the GNC metabolism and energy blend.

Grimey99
03-19-18, 22:26
I have been lurking on this site for a while. I spend too much time reading these and less time using Intel.

BP is seedy, the AMPs make you feel exposed with all the traffic. BO the you. Then you have the AMP smell on you. Would like to try on one of these curvy stacked Colombian beauties but they are all deep in the south side of Orlando.

To get digits for a UTR you needs 100 posts to be a senior member.

I have frequented a few places pay the FS price but go for the view. Maybe have a Presidential type of dream. How does one go about UTR? When you call a companion and they hang up on the call do you call back again? Should I be hiding my identity better?

Jesse54
08-30-18, 09:08
First let me say I am techno challanged. It did not take long to figure out how to delete browsing history ect as most know having the wrong eyes see stuff can be all bad. If I copy and paste a link to post or share to a bud I always copy and paste something "normal" afterwards. I did not know until recently that my clipboard keeps a history of things that have been copied and pasted so that needs to be deleted as well. Just a FYI incase there are other low tech guys out there than need to cover his tracks / ass.

Jesse.

AncientOne
08-30-18, 10:11
First let me say I am techno challanged. It did not take long to figure out how to delete browsing history ect as most know having the wrong eyes see stuff can be all bad. If I copy and paste a link to post or share to a bud I always copy and paste something "normal" afterwards. I did not know until recently that my clipboard keeps a history of things that have been copied and pasted so that needs to be deleted as well. Just a FYI incase there are other low tech guys out there than need to cover his tracks / ass.

Jesse.When someone sends you a text with a link that you open (like the Brazil girls did), THAT PAGE opens in Safari and stays there until you physically delete that page of Safari. Stupid me only cleared his Google search page, had no clue about the Safari history. Ouch.

LagerBierGood
08-30-18, 10:34
Jesse54, another great feature is private mode or incognito mode. I have an Apple phone now and you can put the browser in private mode. Nothing you search or type in the search field is saved on the phone.

I miss the private folder for pictures on the android phone, it was super easy to hide all those nude pics! Google Chrome on the Android should do the same thing.

KanMilk
08-30-18, 11:19
Jesse54, another great feature is private mode or incognito mode. I have an Apple phone now and you can put the browser in private mode. Nothing you search or type in the search field is saved on the phone.

I miss the private folder for pictures on the android phone, it was super easy to hide all those nude pics! Google Chrome on the Android should do the same thing.I use photo vault. It stores photo and video. Passcode entrance. You set it for two passcode. One password for family pics and another password for the fun pics. Dummy proof. Great app.

SlimShady96
08-30-18, 12:11
Jesse54, another great feature is private mode or incognito mode. I have an Apple phone now and you can put the browser in private mode. Nothing you search or type in the search field is saved on the phone.

I miss the private folder for pictures on the android phone, it was super easy to hide all those nude pics! Google Chrome on the Android should do the same thing.The "new private window" tab is what I use to pull up this site, no history of PMs or any of it, now let's get busy and find some new hot young pussy, SS96.

Jesse54
08-30-18, 13:37
Jesse54, another great feature is private mode or incognito mode. I have an Apple phone now and you can put the browser in private mode. Nothing you search or type in the search field is saved on the phone.

I miss the private folder for pictures on the android phone, it was super easy to hide all those nude pics! Google Chrome on the Android should do the same thing.I use the "secret mode" on my Android. If I copy-paste a link it still shows up in my clipboard history. Thankful I accidently found that instead of the Warden who snoops around from time to time. Agree with Slim need to find some new to me coochie. Thanks to all for input.

Jesse.

Handsome69
09-06-18, 23:47
Browser / search engine: duck duck go.

It does not track history like Google tracks your actions, searches, GPS location.

One button deletes / burns history, password input, etc.

Phone: several burner apps available with burner #'s for low monthly rates.

Email: offshore email providers that protect your privacy. Read their privacy policies.

GPS: turn off the GPS on your phone, Google tracks your whereabouts.

Iceman407
09-07-18, 08:59
How are you guys getting cash. I'm getting cash from my discover card when I by groceries.

TheSwampHawk
09-07-18, 09:29
How are you guys getting cash. I'm getting cash from my discover card when I by groceries.Anyone know anything about WalMart cards? I'm looking for something where I can put money on by credit card and take it off in cash. Thoughts?

Happy Hunting, Stay Safe.

-SH.

Redsox2005
09-07-18, 10:05
Easiest thing is use your debit and get small amounts of cash back each time.

Sox.


Anyone know anything about WalMart cards? I'm looking for something where I can put money on by credit card and take it off in cash. Thoughts?

Happy Hunting, Stay Safe.

-SH.

FunInSun000
09-07-18, 12:22
Lots of herbs and vitamins and supplements out there to help boost your drive. Exercise of course!!

Rather than getting off multiple times I prefer a larger load, the orgasm is way better and you will feel way more satisfied.

This site has some good reading, http://www.biggerloads.com/.This is the best thing I have found. Way less expensive the others and discreet delivery.

https://getgreenlumber.com/

LogJammin18
09-07-18, 14:19
In CA, I used free clinics to get STD screened. Those records will not get linked to your regular health care provider's records. The clinic can also prescribe treatment if you need it, assuming you got something curable.Found a great way to get tested without having to use your real name or address. http://myprivatelabs.com.

This site matches you up with a nearby clinic online (use your monger email address and fake name). You pay online using a giftcard and then print out the lab orders that ask the front desk to not check I'd.

Worked great for me.

Yyzvisitor
09-08-18, 09:47
This is the best thing I have found. Way less expensive the others and discreet delivery.

https://getgreenlumber.com/What kind of results have you had?

YYZ.

Iceman407
09-09-18, 01:21
Easiest thing is use your debit and get small amounts of cash back each time.

Sox.I can't use debit card my s. O. Would see it with my discover card I buy something small get 20-40 cash back. I've used my card mostly at walmart.

Chip Watson
09-09-18, 15:01
What kind of results have you had?

YYZ.Definitely the best all stuff I've used. Doesn't give me a head ache like Viagra. And feel it working for a couple days too which is awesome.

SmFlavio
07-10-19, 14:36
Found a great way to get tested without having to use your real name or address. http://myprivatelabs.com.

This site matches you up with a nearby clinic online (use your monger email address and fake name). You pay online using a giftcard and then print out the lab orders that ask the front desk to not check I'd.

Worked great for me.The site you posted takes you to another link. Did that occur to you too?

Camera3
07-11-19, 07:47
The site you posted takes you to another link. Did that occur to you too?The link takes you to a referral site. Put in your zip code and it, basically, gives you a list of all the Quest Diagnostic and Labcorp offices near you. It then allows you to select one and prepay for the tests. Seems pretty straightforward to me. I am sure you can call them up and make the appointment. This is just a sales tool for someone.

There are free options, like the gay clinic on Mills, as long as you don't mind being seen going in and out of a gay clinic.

Regular testing is a very good idea for anyone in this hobby, men and women. STD's are nothing to clap about.

C3.

SmFlavio
07-11-19, 23:28
The link takes you to a referral site. Put in your zip code and it, basically, gives you a list of all the Quest Diagnostic and Labcorp offices near you. It then allows you to select one and prepay for the tests. Seems pretty straightforward to me. I am sure you can call them up and make the appointment. This is just a sales tool for someone.

There are free options, like the gay clinic on Mills, as long as you don't mind being seen going in and out of a gay clinic.

Regular testing is a very good idea for anyone in this hobby, men and women. STD's are nothing to clap about.

C3.No doubt. I haven't had anything. But I've been concerned about checking recently cause it has been a while. Thank bud.

SmFlavio
08-30-19, 17:39
No doubt. I haven't had anything. But I've been concerned about checking recently cause it has been a while. Thank bud.So I finally got checked and damn it felt great. LOL. I was concerned for a while and avoiding any sexual interaction with the SO. Everything came back great and I couldn't be happier. But for those of you concerned with privacy such as my self. Here is what I did.

1. Purchased a Gift card for $200.00.

2. Went to STDcheck.com.

3. Ordered 10 panel test.

4. Entered a Alias name I usually use and remember instead of real identity.

5. Entered real DOB to avoid screwing up if they asked.

6. Created a email but for the results.

7. Used my burner number for contact.

8. When I went to pay, the card got declined, maybe it was because I had just bought 5 minutes before trying. But I confirmed on the vanilla card website that it was available. So I had to use my credit card. However it shows up as Healthlabs.com.

9. Through the website it self I found a location 45 minutes away from home to avoid people I know.

10. Through the site I also faxed my information to the location.

11. Showed up with no appointments or anything. Told them my "name" they confirmed the DOB and address I put in file. And got tested.

12. One day later results were available. They'll let you chose a form of communication to notify you however you prefer, phone, text, email or none.

I recommend this site to anyone. They also have over the phone assistance. My biggest concern was showing I'd and there was no need obviously. But it had been so long since I've last got check that I was concerned of how the process went.

Anyhow good luck out there guys.